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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH. PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR CRAIG BRIDGES BY CROSSING COMMUNITY CHURCH.

>> APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS. YOU CHANGED THE TIME.

AND ETERNAL FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BUSINESS OF OUR CITY.

WE LOVE OUR CITY. WE LOVE OUR COUNTY AND WE HAVE GREAT RESPONSIBILITY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. GIVE US DIRECTION AS WE DO THE VERY BEST WE CAN WITHIN OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM BUT FOR ALL PEOPLE OF OUR CITY, OUR COUNTY AND I ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND HOLY SPIRIT.

AMEN AND AMEN.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

>> IN PERSON. >> IN PERSON.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON? >> PRESENT.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSION. >> FIRST AGENDA, NOVEMBER 2ND

2020 >> MAY COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> PER ROBENA SESSIONS? >> YES, MA'AM.

[a. Proclamation and Special Recognition for Commissioner Reginald Sessions]

>> AND NOW WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND A SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR COMMISSIONER REGGIE SESSIONS.

COMMISSIONER I THINK YOU HAVE A PROCLAMATION DOWN HERE.

IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN TO THE FRONT, I'LL READ THAT AND THE MAYOR HAS A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

>> WE COME DOWN THIS. >> TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

>> TO THE PODIUM. >> WHEREAS, REGGIE SESSION, EARNED HIS BACHELOR OF SCIENCE FROM FLORIDA ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING AND RECEIVED HIS DOCTORATE IN BATTON ROUGE LOUISIANA. AND WHEREAS AT AGE 27 IN 1994, REGGIE SESSIONS WAS THE YOUNGEST ELECTED CITY COMMISSIONER IN FORT PIERCE HISTORY. AND AS WHEREAS COMMISSION SESSIONS IS THE MEMBER OF FLORIDA BAR AND ACTIVE MEMBER OF GREATER PRESENT PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH, WHERE HE SERVES AS CHOIR DIRECTOR. HE'S ALSO A FORMER PROFESSOR OF LAW IN BETHUN UNIVERSITY. AND HAS SERVED AS A MEMBER OF MULTIPLE CITY AND COUNTY BOARDS, INCLUDING THE RETIREMENT BOARD, LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET, ST. LOUIS PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THE SUN RISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD, TREASURY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND ST. LUCIE FIRE BOARD.

WHEREAS REGGIE SESSIONS HAS COMMITTED TO HIS RESPONSIBILITIES DURING HIS YEARS OF SERVICE AS CITY COMMISSIONER INSURING THE RESOURCES AND NECESSARY SUPPORT FOR CITY RESIDENTS TO ACHIEVE A GREATER QUALITY OF LIFE.

I DO HEAR BY ISSUE THIS PROCLAMATION IN HONOR OF REGGIE SESSIONS IN EXTEND HEART FELT APPRECIATION FOR HIS 20 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE AND BEST WISHES TO HIS CONTINUED SUCCESS AND HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE KEY TO THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

IS IT REAL GOLD? >> SURE.

>> I WILL AS WOOD. IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE AS WELL AS AN HONOR TO SERVE AS CITY COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I HAVE SPENT PRACTICALLY MY WHOLE ENTIRE ADULT LIFE IN THE CAPACITY OF CITY COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND I MUST SAY IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY ENJOYABLE. IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE AND IT'S

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BEEN CUMBERSOME, TOO, AT TIMES, BUT AS I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE IN THIS LINE OF WORK THAT IT'S A HIGH CONTACT SPORT.

AND YOU WILL TAKE SOME BLOWS FROM TIME TO TIME AND YOU WILL CATCH SOME BRUISES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU DON'T, THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT PLAYING ENOUGH OFFENSE AND YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ELECTED YOU TO MAKE CHANGE IT COMES WITH THE TURF. IT'S LIKE FOOTBALL.

IT'S LIKE BOXING, BUT WHEN YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN, YOU GET BACK UP. AND YOU GET UP WITH THE DESIRE TO EVEN ACHIEVE AND DO EVEN BETTER THAN YOU WERE IN THE PAST AND WHAT YOU HAD DONE AND YOU LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES OF GETTING KNOCKED DOWN. IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS, IT'S NOT A LOSS. AND THAT'S BEEN FOR THE MOST PART HOW I'VE TRIED TO DO THINGS, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE. AND I TELL YOU, AS YOU GO ALONG SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, YOU WILL GET ENEMIES. AND WHAT YOU GOT TO DO, THOUGH, IS MAKE THE ENEMIES YOUR FOOT STOOL.

AND MAKE A SUCCESS STORY EVEN OUT OF WHAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH AND MOVE ON FROM THERE AND STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT YOU ARE THERE FOR, AND THAT IS TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THOSE THAT HAVE ELECTED YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK A HOST OF PEOPLE TONIGHT THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ME THROUGHOUT MY CAREER FROM THE BEGINNING, UP TO NOW AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD A LIST.

MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME, YOU GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE WHEN YOU START THINKING, THE WHOLE LIST OF PEOPLE.

YOU ALWAYS LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT. BUT I DID SEE A COUPLE OF THEM, IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. I THINK I SAW RAKE REED AND I WOULD BE REMISSED IF I DIDN'T SAY MY APPRECIATION, BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THIS LIST AND EXPRESSED THEM MY APPRECIATION FOR THEM SUPPORTING ME AND THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ME IN THE LONG HAUL. FOR THOSE THAT I WON'T BOTHER TO READ OUT TONIGHT, I WILL SEND THEM SOMETHING SHOWING MY APPRECIATION. BUT YOU KNOW ONE THING ABOUT THIS LIST IS THAT YOU GOT ELDERLY PEOPLE ON HERE.

YOU GOT YOUNG PEOPLE. YOU HAVE BLACK PEOPLE.

YOU GOT WHITE PEOPLE. YOU GOT REPUBLICANS AND I GOT DEMOCRATS AND I GOT PEOPLE IN THE ISLAND AND I GOT PEOPLE IN THE MAINLAND AND I HAVE PEOPLE ON HERE THAT PROBABLY ARE A LITTLE BETTER FINANCIALLY THAN OTHERS.

AND THEY ARE VERSATILE. ONE THING THEY HAVE IN COMMON, AND THAT'S WHY THEY SUPPORTED ME, THEY HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY INVOLVED AND THEY WOULD DO WHAT THEY CAN AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ME AND I APPRECIATE THEM DOING THAT. AGAIN, THESE 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THROUGHOUT THE 20 YEARS I'VE LOST ABOUT THREE OR FOUR ELECTIONS AND WHAT I WOULD DO, I WOULD GO BACK IN THE CORNER AND POUT. I COULDN'T EAT FOR TWO DAYS.

I COULDN'T SLEEP FOR TWO DAYS AND I WILL BE ALL UPSET BUT THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE.

WHEN I LOST THAT ELECTION THE LAST NOVEMBER THE 3RD, I WENT HOME AND WENT TO SLEEP FOR TWO DAYS.

AND I FELT THE BURDEN OFF OF ME BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, I UNDERSTAND, AS MY MOTHER TOLD ME, THE NIGHT OF THE ELECTION, SHE SAYS, I CALLED HER, I SAID, MOM, I LOST.

SHE WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT BUT I'M GLAD SHE DIDN'T COME BECAUSE SHE WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THE MICROPHONE FROM ME.

SHE'S THAT TYPE OF WOMAN. BUT I SAID, MOM, I LOST.

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I SAID, WHAT? I SAID, I LOST.

SHE SAID, THANK GOD. I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I'VE BEEN PRAYING THAT YOU LOSE. WHAT WENT TO MY MOMS, WHAT, WHY DID YOU SAY THAT? SHE SAID, SON, SHE SAYS IT'S TIME. SHE SAYS THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS IN THE WILL OF GOD. I SAID, MOM, I DID THIS.

I DIDN'T DO THIS RIGHT. >> I SAID, NO, NO, NO, NO.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT HAPPENED.

GOD IS IN CONTROL AND HE MAKES NO MISTAKES.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S GOING TO BE A BLESSING.

BECAUSE WHEN HE CLOSES ONE DOOR, HE OPEN UP A WINDOW.

AND YOU KNOW, I, I HEARD HER AND I LISTENED TO HER AND THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH MY WHOLE APPROACH ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION BECAUSE I WASN'T POUTING, I WASN'T UPSET.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I'M SOMEWHAT RELIEVED.

AND I LOOK BACK AT MY HISTORY AND WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING AND SHUFFLING BACK AND FORTH, THE COURT, BACK AND FOR THE AND THE JUDGE IS LOOKING FOR ME AND IN CITY MEETINGS AND LOOKING FOR ME, THROW ME IN JAIL. AND THEN, AGAIN, I TAKE THAT BACK. IT STARTED OUT THAT WAY BUT I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH AND BLESSED ENOUGH AND A LOT OF LAWYERS, HE GETS FAVORITISM. I'M LATE OVER HERE.

I'M TRYING TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

IT'S TIME TO CONCENTRATE. WHEN YOU PRACTICE, AND I BELIEVE YOU GOT ANOTHER CALL. AND SO WHATEVER IT IS THE LORD HAS FOR ME IS FOR ME BUT WHAT I COULD ASSURE YOU OF, MY MOM WANTS ME TO GIVE IT ALTOGETHER. I'M GOING TO BE HARD-HEADED.

I WILL BE BACK. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED THE OTHER DAY, YOU PROBABLY WILL BE MORE DANGEROUS ON THIS SIDE, THAN I AM THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF DANGEROUS WAS THE CHOICE OF WORDS. IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE.

I WILL BE BACK. WHEN I LEAVE TONIGHT, I WILL LEAVE PROBABLY IN THE MOST PROUDEST MOMENTS.

WHEN I LOOK AT WHERE I STARTED, SEEING THE PORT, THAT WAS MY MAIN OBJECTIVE, SEE THE FORT PIERCE COME INTO FRU WIGS.

WHAT I SEE OUT THERE, IS A PROUD MOMENT.

I'M GLAD THAT IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE INVOLVED IN ONE OF THE MOST, ONE OF THE WORST TRAGIC THINGS IN OUR LIFETIME.

AND THAT'S THE PANDEMIC. AND YOU ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, NOT TO GET THE POLITICS INVOLVED, AS I'VE DONE IN SO MANY OCCASIONS, EXPRESSED AND TRIED TO MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE MY INTEREST WAS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES.

MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. RACISM EXISTS.

PANDEMIC, IT EXISTS. AND AS I LOOK OVER TO MY RIGHT THERE, COMMISSIONER PERONA, I WOULD SAY I'M PROUD OF YOU AND SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE IN YOUR DISPOSITION AND ATTITUDE TOWARDS VOTING. NOT JUST WISHES.

WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND BE IN ONE ACCORD.

AGAIN, YOU ALL WILL BE SEEING ME.

COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, WE CAN GO FISHING NOW.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE YOU ALONE.

I WILL BE HERE. WE CAN CALL.

YOU COULD CALL ME. WE CAN TALK.

TALK ABOUT THINGS. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE. I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE YOU ALONE. I JUST PRAY AND TRUST, THAT THE REST OF YOU WILL ALLOW GOD TO USE YOU AND MOVE YOU AND BE WHAT THE OFFICE IS ALL ABOUT. THAT IS BEING A SERVANT.

GOD GIVES GLORY TO THE SERVANTS. PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE TELLS YOU THAT. SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO WORK AND PLEASE WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE THAT YOU ELECT.

AND AS I LEAVE, I KNOW I'M KIND OF LONG WINDED TONIGHT, BUT IT WILL BE AWHILE AGAIN, BUT IT'S A VERY, VERY PROUD MOMENT.

I'M HAPPY. I'M GOING TO CALL MY FRIEND, RON

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LEE AND WE WILL COACH US A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM AND COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, WE WILL GO FISHING OVER THERE AND CATCH SOME SPECKS. I'M GOING TO ENJOY LIFE AND I'M SEEKING WE WILL MAKE SOME MONEY IN THE LAW PRACTICE WE HAVE OVER THERE. SO YOU ALL, BLESSINGS TO YOU AND MAYOR, I GOT A BILL FOR YOU. YOU KNOW CHILD WILSON.

I HOPE YOU ALL TAKE CARE OF THE BILL.

I'LL BE GIVING TO THE CITY MANAGER, ETHICS COMPLAINT.

BUT AT ANY RATE, GOD'S BLESSINGS TO EACH OF YOU AND I WISH YOU WELL. YOU'LL BE SEEING ME AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, RECOGNIZING

[b. National American Indian Heritage Month Proclamation being received by Betty Nevers. ]

NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO ACCEPT THIS.

SORRY. >> IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, MR. AND MS. NEVERS, PLEASE. COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, IF

YOU WOULD PLEASE. >> I WILL READ YOUR

PROCLAMATION. >> WHEREAS THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE GREAT NATION HAS SIGNIFICANTLY BEEN INFLUENCED BY AMERICAN INDIANS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.

AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF AMERICAN INDIANS, EN HABSED THE FREEDOM AND PROSPERITY AND GREATNESS OF AMERICA TODAY.

WHEREAS THEIR CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS ARE CELEBRATED AS PART OF THE RICH LEGACY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND WHEREAS NATIVE AMERICAN AWARENESS WEEK BEGAN IN 1976 AND RECOGNITION WAS EXPANDED BY CONGRESS AND APPROVED BY PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH IN AUGUST OF 1990, DESIGNATING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

AND WHEREAS IN HONOR OF NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE, COMMUNITY AND HISTORICAL ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN PLANNED.

AND NOW THEREFORE, I LINDY HUDSON, MAYOR OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA DO BY DECLARE NOVEMBER 2020, NATIONAL HERITAGE MONTH AND URGE OUR CITIZENS TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH WITH APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS, CEREMONIES AND ACTIVITIES.

>> CONGRATULATIONS MS. NEVERS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. AND I'M VERY NERVOUS.

CO-CHAIR OF THE NATIONAL CHAPTER DOCTORS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. EACH YEAR OUR CHAPTER JOINS WITH OTHER D.A. THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, TO CELEBRATE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN NOVEMBER.

THIS PROCLAMATION ACKNOWLEDGES THAT NATIVE AMERICANS HAVE GIVEN MORE TO THIS AREA THAN JUST THEIR NAMES.

THEY HAVE HELPED CREATE THIS COUNTRY.

IN RECOGNITION OF THESE CONTRIBUTIONS -- GIVES BACK THROUGH SUPPORT OF BECOME MARRIAGE, CAMALA INDIAN HIGH SCHOOL, AMERICAN INDIAN YOUTH SUMMER PROGRAM AND SCHOLARSHIPS.

THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ISSUING THIS PROCLAMATION IN CELEBRATING THE AMERICAN INDIAN AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE CONTRIBUTION.

IT'S MY HONOR TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF CORE

STIGMA HAPA CHAPTER. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, MS. NEVERS.

THANK YOU.

[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT

REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> OKAY. WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YOU WILL GET A WARNING LIGHT AT 3 SECONDS AND SO YOU'LL NEED TO WIND UP PRETTY QUICKLY AND SO I AM GOING TO START WITH SHIRLEY AND DARRYL GIBSON. I PRESUME ONE PERSON WILL SPEAK.

I DON'T KNOW IF BOTH OF YOU WILL SPEAK.

IF YOU ARE, IT'S STILL THREE MINUTES.

>> WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SHIRLEY GIBSON. I'M A REPRESENTATIVE --

>> YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> ADDRESS IS 424 NORTH 29TH STREET.

I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE GIBSON FAMILY.

MOTHER OF BERNIS GIBSON WAS BORN IN FLORIDA.

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THE GIBSON FAMILY HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA SINCE THE LATE 30S. OUR FATHER WAS A WORLD WAR II VETERAN. WE CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THE FAMILY RESIDENT AT 424 NORTH 29TH STREET.

OUR PARENTS HAD EIGHT CHILDREN. ONE SON, MY BROTHER, JAMES GIBSON, JR. WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL FLORIDA HIGHWAYMAN.

MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN A PILLAR OF THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH THIS NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF NON-PROFIT WORK. SINCE THEIR TRANSITION, MY DAD TRANSITIONED AT 95 1/2-YEAR-OLD. AND MY MOTHER IS 78.

MOTHER BERNIS GIBSON SCHOLARSHIP HAS BEEN GIVING SCHOLARSHIPS TO DESERVING STUDENTS AND ADULTS FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

JC MISSION OF HOPE GIVES FOOD AND CLOTHING ET CETERA TO THE NEEDY. DURING ALL THESE YEARS THAT MOTHER BERNIS SCHOLARSHIP, WE NEVER RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE CITY OR THE STATE. OUR MOTHER WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING A PETITION FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON 29TH STREET AND AVENUE D, WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE STREET NAME BE SHARED.

AVENUE D AND 29TH STREET SOUTH BE NAMED AFTER MY MOTHER AND FATHER, JCB. GIBSON DRIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ASHLEY PIEFTSTER.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. NICE TO SEE MY FRIENDS UP THERE AND SORRY TO BE NOT SEEING AS MUCH OF YOU COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE.

MY NAME IS ASHTON DEPIEFTSISTER. I OWN 601 SEA WIND DRIVE, WHICH IS A VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY, DISCUSSED BY THE WESTERN PENINSULA SURETTE. I'VE BEEN A TAXPAYER FOR OVER 25 YEARS, ALTHOUGH I LIVE IN WEST PALM BEACH.

I THINK IT'S EIGHT OR NINE YEARS, SINCE THE COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED THE SEWER PLANT SURETTE REPORT.

I AM HERE TO SAY, I'M STILL WAITING AND HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE VISION OF DEVELOPING MY PROPERTY TOGETHER WITH THE SEWER PLANT SITE. I SUGGEST THAT YOU PROCEED IN BOTH TRACKS, ENGAGE WITH EQUALIA AND PREPARE TO HAVE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO EQUALIA FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THEY TELL ME THEY ARE WILLING TO BUILD A NEWER SEWER PLANT AND FIX ALL THE PIPES AT ZERO COST TO THE CIY. THEY WANT IN RETURN TO OPERATE THE SEWER PIPE FOR 20 YEARS. THEY WILL PRESERVE THE JOBS OF FPUA WORKERS AND WOULD NOT RAISE RATES MORE THAN INFLATION.

EQUALIA IS A HUGE COMPANY, AMONG THE TEN WATER COMPANIES IN THE WORLD. THEY ARE CAPABLE OF MAKING A HUGE DEPOSIT TO INSURE THE PERFORMANCE.

THEY FEEL THAT FORT PIERCE IS NOT FULLY ENGAGED WITH THEM AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF APPROACHING THE CITY.

I BELIEVE YOU WILL BE MAKING A MISTAKE IF YOU ENTRUST FUTURE PROGRESS TO THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE TRIED THAT SINCE BEFORE I ARRIVED IN 1995.

THEY SEEM DISINCLINED TO MOVE THE PLANT.

I'M TOLD OVER THE YEARS, THEY'VE VASTLY EXAGGERATED THE COST OF MOVING THE PLANT AND MINIMIZE, ABOUT THE MANY SEWER SPILLS.

I RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET A BLUE RIBBON PANEL.

THAT YOU SUGGEST BROOK TURNONING, COURT LUCY WATER PLANT. HE'S WILLING TO SERVE FOR FREE BUT NOT IN AN ENDLESS BUREAUCRATIC THING.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE FORMER HEAD OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A PANEL THAT, I THINK, WASTED TWO YEARS, INCLUDED A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE FPUA. AND IN THE FIRST MEETING, SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT MOVING IT AND SUGGESTED MEETING ONE HOUR A MONTH. I THINK BUSH, COULD PROVIDE YOU RESULTS. I COULD GIVE YOU OTHER NAMES WHO ARE INVOLVED IN SUCCESSFULLY. AND I DON'T THINK THIS HAS BEEN

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A PRIORITY FOR MR. NIMS, BUT I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HIM ON OUR NEW HEAD OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> DON TAMPIT.

>> DON TAMPIT. 206 SOUTH SIXTH STREET.

THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU JUST HEARD.

I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 13A, WHICH IS SOLICITATION FOR WASTE WATER PLANT. I STRONGLY NOT RECOMMEND YOU ACCEPT ANY UNSOLICITED BIDS RELATED TO WASTE WATER PLANTS NOW OR IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF PREPARING FOR THE JOINT CITY FPUA COUNTY MEETING ON THE WASTE WATER PLANT RELOCATION, WHICH WILL BE SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER.

THE UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL IS FOR A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY IN CONSIDERATION AS AN OPTION FOR RELOCATING THE FPUA OFF THE ISLAND.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE CITY SHOULD NOT ACCEPT ANY PROPOSALS CURRENTLY RAN BY FPUA. THE CLEAR ARTICLE OF THE CHARTER, AND I QUOTE, THE AUTHORITY SHALL HAVE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION, CONTROL AND MANAGEMENT OF THE UTILITIES OF CITY AND ALL ITS OPERATIONS AND FACILITIES.

ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE ON THE PROPOSAL ARE NONBINDING TO FPUA AND WE WILL NOT SUPPORT EVALUATION OF THE PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> EVA ARNEZ. >> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND PEOPLE FROM FORT PIERCE. MY NAME IS EVA ARNEZ.

AND REPRESENTING EQUALIA. AND WHILE FIRST THING I WANT TO QUALIFY, WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED ANY ANSWERS TO THE CITY PROPOSAL YET BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO SO. AND EQUALIA IS A WATER COMPANY.

WE'RE THE FOURTH WATER COMPANY IN EUROPE, IN TERMS OF THE WORLD, IN TERMS OF POPULATION. WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION THAT THE CITY DESERVE FOR THEIR SEWER TREATMENT. AND IN OUR CITY PROPOSAL, WE WANT TO INCLUDE FINANCING, DESIGN, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE WATERS OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE'RE WILLING TO COLABRATE WITH THE CITY AND COLLABORATE WITH THE FPUA. I THINK WE'RE THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE PROPOSAL. THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. IT WOULD BE A COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY, WHERE WE PROVIDE OUR FINANCE BUT THE CITY WILL BE THE OWNER OF THE PLANT, CONTROLLING THE PLANT.

THE CITY WILL BE THE ULTIMATE BENEFICIAL PEOPLE OF THE NEW INSTALLATION. AND WE ALWAYS DESIGN LOOKING TO SUSTAINABILITY, LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.

WE WILL TRY TO MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE SO, I MEAN, WE CAN'T REUSE THE WATER AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE WATER RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, SO YOU COULD REDUCE THAT AND YOU HAVE MORE RESOURCES FOR THE FUTURE AND FOR THE NEW PEOPLE COMING TO FORT PIERCE AND THE FUTURE KIDS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU, ONCE WE PRESENT IT, BECAUSE THERE'S MANY THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD COLLABORATION WITH FPUA, TO DELIVER THE PRODUCT THE CITY DESERVES, BECAUSE THEY KNOW, HOW THE INSTALLATION IS RIGHT NOW.

THEY KNOW THE PIPES. THEY KNOW WHAT THE CITY NEEDS AND THEY KNOW HOW MUCH WATER, WHAT WATER THEY ARE RECEIVING.

THERE'S INFORMATION THAT I NEED TO SHARE WITH THEM OR THEY NEED TO SHARE WITH ME TO PRESENT THE BEST AND MOST COST-EFFECTIVE PROPOSAL AND THEY REALIZE TO TRY TO NOT INCREASE THE RATES, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO DECIDE, ONCE WE MAKE OUR NUMBERS, FINANCIALS AND EVERYTHING.

IF IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, WE ARE HAPPY TO SERVE THE CITY AND PROVIDE A GREAT SOLUTION. I HOPE YOU, ONCE WE PRESENT IT, I HOPE YOU ACCEPT IT AND READ IT.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

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YOU HAVE ONE TO READ FROM A CITIZEN, CHARLIE HYATT.

>> THIS IS FROM CHARLIE HIGHBACK, FROM 1111 FRONT READER STREET. ALL OF US WITH UNRESOLVED ITEMS IN THE CITY, IT'S INTERESTING THAT COMMISSIONER SESSIONS IS RAISING AN ISSUE THAT WAS RESOLVED IN 7/13/2020.

IN THE MEETING, IN THE POLICE AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE CITY WAS EFFICIENT AND RECOMMENDED, TO RECOMMEND TOUR OF DUTY.

OTHERWISE THE POLICY CONTAINED ALL THE NECESSARY PROTOCOLS TO INSURE THE OFFICERS WERE FOLLOWING POLICE GUIDELINES.

FURTHERMORE, THE DOCUMENT SENT BY EXXON INDUSTRIES, IT WAS NOTED THE BOOEDY CAMERAS USERS OF THE PRODUCT.ED BY THE - TAT MEANS, NO PORTION OF THE VIDEO COULD BE ALTERED, DELETED, CHANGED OR MODIFIED IN ANYWAY WHILE IN CONTROL OF THE OFFICERS. AS THE COMMITTEE DECIDED THAT THE CURRENT POLICY OF HAVING AN OFFICER DOWNLOAD THE INFORMATION, BY END OF TOUR OF DUTY, WAS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT.

ANY FURTHER RESTRICTION WOULD RESULT AS LOSS OF MORALE BY THE OFFICERS, AT A TIME BY MORALE CAUSED BY ALL-TIME LOW.

AND AT THE CLOSE, THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE ISSUE.

WE'RE SATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT POLICY AND STATEMENT BY EXXON WERE MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO INSURE THAT THE CAMERAS WOULD NOT BE COMPROMISED, VOTED TO NOT PUT THE ISSUE IN CITY COMMISSIONER AGENDA. UNLESS, MR. SESSIONS COULD ADD TO THE DISCUSSION, THIS DECISION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED CLOSED.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>>> NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ADDITIONS OR DELEAGUESES TO THE AJTD DA

AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> SIR, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS. IF NOT, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> ON ITEM 13B, I DIDN'T SEE AN ATTACHMENT TO THE AGENDA ITEM. IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BODY WORN CAMERAS. ARE WE CHANGING THE POLICY? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE ITEM?

>> THERE'S NO BACKUP FOR ITEM 13B.

>> ARE YOU ASKING ME. >> SIR, YES, SIR

>> I HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION HERE.

I WANT TO SHOW IT TO YOU. >> YOU COULD MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU, COMMISSIONER, PLEASE.

>> QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT ITEMS. MY RESPONSE WAS I HAVE A LIST OF INFORMATION HERE THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU WITH REGARDS TO THE MATTER.

OKAY. MATTER OF FACT, IN THE LETTER, THERE WAS SOME INDICATION THAT KIND OF INTERESTING, WHOEVER WROTE THAT LETTER THERE, ABOUT NEW ITEMS THAT HE FELT THAT IT SHOULD BE CLOSED BUT AT ANY RATE, I HAVE NEW INFORMATION.

>> MADAM MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER, I THOUGHT WE WAS ON THE CONSENT

AGENDA. >> NO, WE WERE ON ADDITIONS AND DEL DELETIONS ON THE AGENDA.

>> LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, COUPLE OF US WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE WERE GOING TO GET THE ITEM TO REVIEW BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING WITH IT. IS TONIGHT JUST A PRESENTATION WITH A DOCUMENT -- BECAUSE NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON ANYTHING. SO -- OKAY. WE HAVE LIKE A RED MARK LINED ITEM REVIEW OF THE BODY WORN CAMERA POLICY.

>> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO COMMISSIONER, I WILL PRESENT YOU WITH INFORMATION, WITH REGARDS TO THE BODY WORN CAMERAS.

IT'S NOT AN ITEM TO BE VOTED ON. THAT'S A DECISION THAT YOU COULD MAKE, IF NEED BE. TORE YOUR INFORMATION, I WILL GIVE YOU THIS, IN REVIEW OF THE ISSUES, I CAME UP WITH SINCE WE WERE HERE BEFORE AFTER A REQUEST OF DOCUMENTATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FROM THE LAST MEETING, I FOUND INFORMATION, THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCLOSED.

I'M GOING TO DO THAT, IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.

AT ANY LATER DATE, IF YOU DECIDE, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS VOTE ON IT, THAT'S UP TO YOU.

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IT'S NOT FOR VOTING ON. >> DID WE HAVE A SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL? >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> YES, MAM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

[a. Presentation of Fort Pierce Youth Council Recommendations]

> YES. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS

>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE YOUTH

COMMISSIONS. >> MR. SWEAT, YOU HAVE THE LEAD

IN? >> I HAVE A SHORT LEAD IN.

>> MY NAME IS LASHUANNA FRANKLIN.

>> I'M BRI KAZZEN. >> NIA MORRISSON.

>> I'M LIDA MOORE. >> I'M LEEIA JOHNSON AND THE CHAIR OF THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT, TO SHARE

OUR PRESENTATION. >> WELCOME.

>> OUR MISSION, IS TO PROVIDE LOCAL YOUTH WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH CITY GOVERNMENT WHILE OBTAINING A SENSE OF CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP AND DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP SKILLS. COLLECTIVELY WE PUT TOGETHER OUR GOALS AND OUR THREE MAIN GOALS WERE TO PROMOTE, CONNECT AND ENGAGE WITH OTHER YOUTH, PROMOTE SAFETY AND ENGAGE IN CIVIC EDUCATION WITH OTHER ADULTS. WHEN PROMOTING, WE TALKED ABOUT YOUTH SAFETY AND HEALTH. WE TALKED ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH, AND MENTAL SAFETY, PHYSICAL SAFETY AT SCHOOL. THESE INCLUDED MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS AND IDEAS TO ENCOURAGE MEANTLE A HEALTH PROGRAMS AND TO MAKE KIDS FEEL SAFE. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT COVID RELIEF AND ASSISTANCE, FOR TEACHERS AND STUDENTS.

WHETHER THAT'S WEARS MASKS AND TRYING TO KEEP OUR SCHOOL SAFER FOR THE KIDS WE TALKED ABOUT SOME BULLYING PREVENTION. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ON-LINE BULLYING SINCE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN ON-LINE.

AND WE WANT TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO COMBAT THE BULLYING AND MAKE KIDS FEEL SAFER IN A SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.

NEXT, WE TALKED ABOUT WAYS TO CONNECT THE YOUTH WITH OTHER KIDS AND SCHOOLS. OUR FIRST IDEA WAS TO CONNECT THEM THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'RE WORKING ON STARTING A FACEBOOK PAGE TO GET MORE WORD OUT AND ALSO AN INSTAGRAM PAGE TO GO ALONG WITH THE INSTAGRAM PAGE, SO KIDS AN ADULTS COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE -- WHAT EVENTS ARE GOING ON AND HOW THEY CAN GET INVOLVED. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT WITH SCHOOLS THAT'S GOING TO BE POSTING LETTERS THROUGH THE SCHOOL, SENDING OUT SCHOOL E-MAILS AND OTHER WAYS TO GET THE WORD OUT ON WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE ALSO WANT TO CONNECT WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT PARTNERS, REC CENTER, PAL, THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE STARTED IN FORT PIERCE AND ANY OTHER WAYS THAT STUDENTS COULD CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER.

WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE ALSO.

>> YOU'RE DOING GOOD. >> VERY GOOD.

>> THE NEXT THING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ENGAGE THE YOUTH.

GET OUR BASE, AND ENGAGE THEM WITH ADULTS.

OUR MISSION STATEMENT, I TALKED ABOUT THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THAT IS, I BELIEVE A BIG PART.

IN ENGAGING THEM, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT IS BEING -- AND ENGAGE THE YOUTH WITH EVENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THEN POSSIBLY INTERNSHIPS, I BELIEVE.

SHE'S ON AN INTERNSHIP RIGHT NOW, BUT TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE ADULTS AND THE CITY AND THE YOUTH.

OUR UPCOMING EVENTS, WE HAVE A CHRISTMAS DINNER DRIVE THROUGH.

THERE'S A THANKSGIVING ONE GOING ON.

LATER THIS MONTH AND WE'VE DECIDED TO TAKE ON THE CHRISTMAS. WE ARE GOING TO BE PACKAGING THE

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MEALS AND AT A LATER DATE, HANDING THEM OUT.

I BELIEVE PERCY PEEK IS THE LOCATION WE DECIDED ON.

WE PUSHED THE TEACHER GIVEAWAY TO NEXT YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO BE SUPPLIES FOR THE TEACHERS AND THEN ESSENTIALLY THEY WILL BE ALSO, LETTING THE KIDS USE THEM.

IT'S LIKE A, THEY GET TO DECIDE HOW THEY USE THEM.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 2021 SCHOOL YEAR. AND THEN WE HAVE DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED IN MORE YOUTH CONFERENCES TO CONNECT WITH OTHER YOUTH COUNSELORS AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND GET -- SHARE IDEAS TO MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> WELL, THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE TEACHER GIVEAWAY. I THINK IT'SLE ARE REALLY NICE TO APPRECIATE THE TEACHERS. ANYBODY ELSE.

>> ANYBODY ELSE INTRODUCED THEMSELVES?

>> I THINK THEY DID. IT'S HARD TO HEAR THEIR NAMES.

>> WHEN WE FIRST PUT THE YOUTH COUNCIL TOGETHER, WE FIGURED WE WOULD ORGANIZE A BUNCH OF THE YOUTH COMMUNITY.

SO THEY WILL GET A TASTE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND HELP TWEAK WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. SINCE THEN, THE WHOLE WORLD CHANGED. WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON NOW, HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, SO I THINK IT'S VERY COOL.

WE DEPEND ON YOU MORE. WE'RE HAPPY YOU ARE THERE.

YOU'RE OUR VOICES AND EYES AND EARS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOUR JOB HAS BEEN ELEVATED TO A MOST IMPORTANT TIME AND PLACE SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE NEVER THOUGHT THIS IS HOW IT WOULD DEVELOP BUT YOUR MISSION HAS GOTTEN MORE, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND MUCH MORE INTENSE AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

>> MADAM. >> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

>> AND MY QUESTION, ARE YOU ALL GETTING CREDIT IN SCHOOL?

I MEAN, THIS IS -- >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DIDN'T KNOW. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT GRADES YOU ARE ALL, MAY BE SENIORS BUT YOU ALL GET CREDIT? IF NOT, WE NEED TO CHECK ON THAT,.

>> OF COURSE, I HAVE A SPECIAL ONE, OUT THERE SPEAKING TONIGHT, SO YOU DID WELL. ONE THING, WE TALKED ABOUT AS A COMMISSION, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME, HOW TO CONNECT YOUTH. YOU MENTIONED IT OVER AND OVER IN YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT WAYS AND CONNECTING, AND WE DECIDED TO START THIS COUNCIL.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

HOW DO WE EVEN GET YOU SIX IN FRONT OF US TO TALK TO US AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR LIVES AND WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE? WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO CONNECT.

NOW YOU'VE BLOSSOMED TO OTHER IDEAS AND YOU'RE TAKING ON THAT CHALLENGE AND YOU'RE DOING IT IN A WAY BETTER FASHION THAN WE CAN EVER DREAM OF WAS SOCIAL MEDIA AND GETTING CONNECTED WITH YOUR CLASSMATES AND PEERS. GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I'M JUST GLAD, YOU PUT YOUR NAME THERE TO BE NOMINATED

>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. UP WITH OF THE THINGS YOU EARN.

>> YOUR CITY HAS A SPECIAL ROLE. TAEGS DIFFERENT THAN THE COUNTY AND IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE STATE.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW, TOO, THAT EVERYBODY IS KIND OF STAYS IN THEIR LANE, BECAUSE CITIES PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND STATES MAKE LAWS AND SO, IT REALLY IS FURTHERING, YOUR CIVIC EDUCATION, BY YOU BEING A PART OF THIS.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND YOUR IDEAS, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. COMMISSIONER SESSIONS.

>> HATS OFF TO YOU ALL. WORDS OF ENCOURAEMENT.

I LOVE THE PRESENTATION AND I LOVE TO SEE A DIVERSE CROWD.

I DON'T KNOW WE DIDN'T GET ANY MEN INVOLVED BUT I LOVE SEEING

THIS DIVERSE CROWD. >> THEY GIVE ME A HARD TIME.

>> THE ONLY THING MISSING, I GUESS.

BUT WE MAY HAVE THE NEXT FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT.

>> YES. >> WOMAN GOVERNOR, STATE OF FLORIDA. BUT AS IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU ALREADY, WE HAVE AN IS INNING ELEMENT.

THAT, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S ON THE YOUNG PEOPLE'S MINDS, BUT WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT FOR YOU ALL.

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WE LOOK TO YOU ALL TO BE THE LIAISON TO HELP OUT WITH THE BOARD ITSELF. A LOT OF DECISIONS ARE MADE, THAT IMPACT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IN AND OF ITSELF, I ALWAYS SAID, HAS A GREAT IMPACT IN STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE. YOU LIVE HERE AND THESE PEOPLE ARE ELECTED BY YOU ALL. NOW YOU ALL ARE REPUTATION OF US. YOU'RE ANALOGY.

AND YOU MEET AND MAKE THE DECISIONS.

THE DECISIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD.

I WON'T BE HERE. THE DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD. AND OUR HOPE THAT THEY WILL TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL OUT THERE, YOU ARE IN THE MAINSTREAM. THEY TALK ABOUT FORT PIERCE SO MUCH. WE HAVE A HIGH CRIME RATE, JUVENILE DELINQUENCY AND IT'S TRUE.

THAT'S WHY YOU ALL COULD PLAY A PART IN WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN TERMS OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE, YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN. BLACK LIVES MATTER, I SEE THAT YOUNG LEADER, BLACK LIVES MATTER MASKS.

THINGS ARE GOING ON IN AMERICA AND IT INVOLVES YOUNG PEOPLE.

YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE PART OF DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.

FORT PIERCE STANDS OUT. NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO, I ALWAYS HEAR SERVICEMEN, IN GERMANY, WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE FROM FORT PIERCE, YOU ALWAYS REMEMBER FORT PIERCE.

I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT, BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE, DO WHAT YOU CAN TO BETTER THE PLACE. YOU'RE ALL IN A POSITION WHERE YOU COULD MAKE DECISIONS TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

>> IF YOU WANT TO, SAY YOUR NAMES.

>> WE WANT TO REINSTATE OUR NAMES.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MIA MORRISSON.

>> BRIA KAYSON. >> KATE CASY.

>> LEADER MOORE. >> LASHONEDA FRANKLIN.

>> AND I'M LEEIA JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[b. Renaming of North 29th Street]

RENAMING 29TH STREET >> ALL RIGHT.

WHO HAS THIS? YOU? OKAY. YOU GET -- MR. SWEAT.

>> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER AND CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE NORTH 29TH STREET RENAMING. OVERVIEW ON THE SCREEN.

THE COMMISSION WAS PRESENTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENAME NORTH 29TH STREET, TO HONOR FANNY LOU STODDARD.

AT THE REQUEST, CITY COMMISSIONER OF GAINING PUBLIC INPUT, THROUGH DIRECT MAIL OITS, ON-LINE SURVEY AND UTILIZING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. FEEDBACK.

CITIZENS WERE ABLE TO CHOOSE FROM THREE OPTIONS.

TOTAL NAME CHANGE OF THE STREET SIGN, DUEL STREET SIGN AND NOT IN FAVOR AT ALL. WE RECEIVED 360 RESPONSES, FOR PUBLIC MAIL-IN. THE COMMUNITY WAS IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING A DUAL STREET SIGN WITH THREE VOTES ON THE ON-LINE SURVEY. OUT OF 35 DIRECT MAILOUTS, ALONG THE VIBT OF TRAIL VOTES, TO A DUEL.

IN ALL, 54 STREET SIGNS ARE NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

FROM ORANGE AVENUE TO AVENUE Q. TOTAL COST IS 9,351.

PRODUCTION WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 6-8 WEEKS.

IN A SIDE NOTE, MS. FANNY STODARD WOULD BE TURNING 92.

>> THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. HAPPENED IN A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S A RESPONSE FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO REALLY WITH THIS, BUT HOW DO WE LOOK AT THIS GOING FORWARD? OBVIOUSLY, WE HEARD TONIGHT. AND IT'S GREAT, BUT I BELIEVE THIS SPEAKS TO THE POINT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS RATHER THAN JUST HAVE FOLKS.

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AND DO SOME SURVEYS AND START PRINTING THE SIGNS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FORMATTED PROCESS, WE GO THROUGH, WHERE THE CITY COMMISSIONER KNOWS, THE COMMUNITY HAS WEIGHED IN ON IT. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, MAKE SURE IT FITS CERTAIN CRITERIA, WHICH I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER CONTRIBUTED TO THAT LIST OF ITEMS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. I REALLY DO BELIEVE, WE HAVE TO

HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS >> SIMILAR PERHAPS TO WHEN WE CREATED THE PROCESS FOR NAMING OF PARKS OR RENAMING OF PARKS?

>> WHATEVER, MAYOR. >> WE DO HAVE A PROCESS FOR

THAT. >> I KNOW WE DO.

BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ONE FOR THIS.

AND TO TELL YOU THAT, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POINT, THIS POINT HERE. I'M TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT, AND STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB, REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BUT I'M SAYING GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS, SO WE DON'T STUMBLE AND MOVE AND DO THINGS, BECAUSE WE COULD END UP LOOKING AT FIVE OR SIX OF THESE EVERY MEETING THAT WE'RE UP.

WE HAVE A LOT OF STREETS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE START RENAMING THEM EVERYTHING.

NOT TO SAY, WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT.

I'M SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A FORMAT.

>> THAT NEEDS TO BE FAIR. >> THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, WE HAVE CROSSED ALL THE T'S AND DOTTED ALL THE EYES,

THROUGH THE CITY AND THE SYSTEM. >> MADAM MAYOR?

>> YES, SIR >> I GUESS MY PERSONAL INPUT ON IT IS, IT'S TIME FOR US TO START DOING SOMETHING, BUT OUR STREETS. NOT ONLY REPAIRING THEM BUT I THINK WE'RE COME TO A POINT IN OUR LIFE, WE'RE ABOVE NUMBERS AND ALPHABET. WE CAN READ.

YOU KNOW WE CAN COUNT SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.

AND THEY ARE PERSONALIZED, OUR CITY, BECAUSE WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. I WANTED TO ASK JOE, WHERE WERE THE FUNDS COMING FROM FOR THIS PROJECT?

>> WE HAVE -- THIS IS THE QUESTION?

GOT IT RIGHT THERE. >> IT WAS PUT IN THE CITY OF

FORT PIERCE? >> YES.

>> I GOT IT, JOE. >> THANK YOU.

>> OH, OKAY. . >> GOOD EVENING, SIR.

WITH REGARD TO FUNDING, WE'LL FIND THE FUNDING.

THIS PROBABLY COULD HAPPEN THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

$3,900 IS NOT A LARGE EXPENDITURE.

WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PERONA. I THINK IT WILL COME TIME AND TIME AGAIN. THE MAYOR AND I WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE RENAMING OF OUR CURRENT STREETS.

HOW WE WENT FROM LORRAINE, TO SELLIN TO AVENUE D.

WE'RE LEFT WITH A RENAMING. WE'RE LEFT WITH RESOLUTIONS AND APPROVAL OF MOTIONS WITHOUT ANY BACK STORY.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED. I THINK IT HAPPENED IN 1916.

>> 1923. >> AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT OCCURRED. BUT I BELIEVE WE ESTABLISHED THAT PROCESS, SIR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND WE CAN HAVE A CALL FOR NOMINATIONS SIMILAR, TO OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES. WE CAN HAVE A DESIGNATED GROUP TO REVIEW OF THE NOMINATIONS AND BRING YOU RECOMMENDATIONS BASED

UPON THEIR FEEDBACK. >> I COULD SEE THIS MUCH.

WHEN YOU AND I AGREE, COMMISSIONER PERONA, I THINK WE NEED TO GET A PROCESS INVOLVED AND I HOPE THAT THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT'S TO COME BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER SAID, EARLIER WE'VE OUTGROWNED THE NUMBERS AND AVENUES AND 13TH STREET IN AVENUE K.

THERE'S SOME HISTORY BEHIND THAT, MR. CITY MANAGER.

I HAD A TALK TO A VERY RESPECTFUL ELDERLY GUY TWO YEARS AGO, BY THE NAME OF PAT DUVAL. PAT DUVAL HAD A HISTORY OF KNOWLEDGE OF HIM ABOUT ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FORT PIERCE.

HE'S ONE OF THE FIRST DEPUTY SHERIFF, MINORITY SHERIFFS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I THINK PAT DUVAL WAS.

HE SHARED WITH ME, WHY THOSE STREETS WERE NAMED BY NUMBERS AND AVENUES BY LETTERS. IT WAS A FORMAT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACADEMY FIND BLACK PEOPLE AND

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MINORITIES AND A DESIGNATED AREA THAT WILL NOT BE CUMBERSOME.

IT MADE IT EASIER. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER SAID EARLIER, WE'RE BEYOND THAT, NOW.

AT LEAST I WOULD HOPE SO. I'M HOPING THAT, EVERY LAST ONE OF THE STREETS, NAMED AFTER SOMEBODY, SOMETHING NICE, LIKE THEY HAVE IN SAINT FORT LUCIE. THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN OTHER CITIES EITHER. PAT DUVAL SHARED THAT WITH ME.

DOWN IN JIM CROW'S DAYS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

WE'RE BEYOND JIM CROW. AND I WOULD HOPE, THE FLOODGATES WILL START TO FLOW AND START CHANGING THE NAMES OF THE

STREETS AND AVENUES. >> MADAM MAYOR?

>> YES, SIR >> I WOULD LIKE TO FORMAT AND COULD BRING IT TOGETHER. IT'S ALREADY RESOLVING.

WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND WE HAVE NOT YET TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC BUILDINGS. AND SO IT'S REALLY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S PUBLICLY OWNED INFRASTRUCTURE. AND IF WE CAN INCOME PASS ALL THE ITEMS INTO PROCESS, POLICY, FORM AND FORMAT, I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD REQUEST, AND

HERE WE GO. >> I AGREE.

>> PERHAPS WE CAN GET STAFF TO LOOK AT SOME ESTABLISHED COMMUNITIES DID, TO FIND OUT. AND IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO WORK ON, IS COME UP WITH A PLAN. AND IT MAKES IT EASIER ON US.

AND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE REACTED SOMETIMES TO ISSUES, THAT LATER ON, AND SO WE'RE GETTING SMARTER AT THIS.

SO IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, TO SEE WHAT IT IS.

I KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL COMMUNITIES OUT THERE, THAT TAKES WHAT FORT PIERCE DOES AND USE IT AS THEIR OWN.

SO I THINK IT'S FAIR, THAT WE CAN DO THE SAME.

>> YOU HAVE OUR DIRECTION? YOU HAVE OUR DIRECTION? SO I THINK WHAT WE WANT, IS STAFF TO COME UP WITH A SUGGESTED PROCESS FOR RENAMING STREETS.

>> WE HAVE THE FEEDBACK FOR THIS PARTICULAR STREET.

BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, WITH THE RENAMING, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PROCESS, WE APPROVE AS A CITY COMMISSION.

THEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AGAIN, FOR THE STREET.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, START OFF WITH THE STREET. RIGHT.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY AM COULD UP HERE TONIGHT AND ASK FOR THAT.

>> IF I MAY. I BELIEVE STAFF HAS PICKED THIS UP AND MOVED IT IN A DIRECTION. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO PUT THE GABOSH ON THIS THING.

MY QUESTION, INQUIRIES GOING FORWARD.

I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL, WITH GOING THROUGH WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND BUT I'M SAYING, GOING FORWARD FROM THAT MOMENT IN TIME, HAVE STAFF HAPPY WITH THE WAY WE VETTED IT ALL THE WAY

THROUGH? >> I COULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, JOE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN GAINING COMMUNITY INPUT, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO COME OUT. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO GET INTO GROUPS. WE HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE MAIL LETTERS FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE ACTUAL CORRIDOR.

WE HAVE AN ON-LINE SURVEY TO GAIN THE COMMUNITY INPUT AS WELL. OUR JOB, IS TO PROVIDE YOU, THAT FEEDBACK SO YOU COULD MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

I THINK IT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FOR

YOU. >> I THINK IT'S A TIMING MECHANISM, TOO. AND DARDEN IS 100-YEAR-OLD OR GOING TO BE ANOTHER YEAR OLDER PRETTY SOON.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTENT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT POINT IN TIME, FOR US TO SIT THERE AND THROW IT IN A MIX, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH A POLICY AND PLAN, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS TIME FOLKS. AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS, BUT GOING -- DEVELOPING A PROCESS

GOING FORWARD AFTER THAT. >> AS LONG AS THAT'S VERY CLEAR, THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING A PRECEDENCE.

AS LONG AS THAT'S VERY CLEAR. >> ANOTHER QUESTION, TO THAT, COMMISSIONER, IF OUR NEW FORMAT, LATER ON COMES TO THE TRULY RENAMED AS SOME OF OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A DUAL DESIGNATION.

IT'S PROBABLY SIMPLE TO REMOVE THE NUMBERED SIGNS.

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AND IF OUR POLICY CHANGES, WE WILL RENAME OUR ENTIRE STREET, RIGHT NOW, WE'LL TALK ABOUT A DUAL DESIGNATION.

>> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I THINK STAFF HAS DONE EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AND GET TO THIS POIN.

I JUST DON'T LIKE MAKING A LEFT-HAND TURN, WHEN WE GET TO THE END, SAY, HEY, LET'S DO SOMETHING ELSE.

WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS. I LIKE THE DUAL DESIGNATION.

I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO.

AS THAT ONE GETS PERFORMED AND PERFECTED, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A POLICY IN THERE GOING FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE.

>> WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TWO TRACKS.

>> THAT'S MY VIEW RIGHT NOW. .

I THINK THERE'S A TIMING ISSUE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WHEN THIS THING WAS GETTING INTO A CRESCENDO.

STAFF DID A GREAT JOB FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION.

>> IT HAS OPENED UP OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

>> NOW ARE YOU CLEAR >> YES.

>> ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT. >> AT THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WOULD ASK THAT MR. NIMS BRING IT BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING, SO WE CAN DOCUMENT, WHAT WE DID, WHY WE DID IT AND FORMALIZE IT IN THAT MANNER.

>> AGREED. >> AGREED?

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> THANK YOU, RIGHT. THE I NEXT ITEM OF THE AGENDA IS

THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> ANY ITEMS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE. IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> WHAT IS THE APPROVAL. >> COMMISSIONER ALEX ANDER?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER PER ROAN NA?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS

>> YES, MAM. >> TWO YEAR, ON THE PLANNED, LOCATED IN INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. THE NEW EXPIRATION DALT WOULD BE

NOVEMBER 19TH, OF 2022 >> COMMISSIONER QUORUM.

>> AND I KNOW, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST TALKED ABOUT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, IT WAS ABOUT 4-5 YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THE PROCESS, IN 2018, WE ACTUALLY GOT TO THE WEEDS OF ALL OF IT, AND GOT TO SEE THE SIGHT PLAN AND GOT EXCITED.

THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A GATEWAY TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I WAS REALLY EXCITED WE WERE GOING TO GET DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.

FOR THE LONGEST TIME, IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN FALLO OTHER THAN -- I KNOW AT THE TIME, IT WAS AN UNANIMOUS DECISION.

WE HAD FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY, WEIGHING IN, TALKING ABOUT THEIR WELFARE, SAFETY AND IMPACTS. I KNOW AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, I VOTED FOR IT, BECAUSE OF THE EXCITEMENT OF THE PROJECT.

I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW, IT IS DOUBTFUL, IT WILL COME TO FRU WIGS. I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER, THE OWNER IS MOVING TOWARDS GETTING THE ENTITLEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO MARKET IT. FOR THAT PURPOSE, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD PASS THIS RIGHT NOW, IF IT WAS PRESENTED TO US IN 2020. CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE MOVED IN THE DIRECTION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

REAL ESTATE IS GOING WILD. RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE, ESPECIALLY WATERFRONT PROPERTY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD AND PULLING BUILDING PERMITS.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION, RATHER THAN PASS IT AND CONSENT AND BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE TWO YEARS TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND YOU DIDN'T.

>> I NOTICE THERE'S A FOR SALE SIGN.

>> THERE'S FOR SALE SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

>> IT'S BEEN THERE, I THINK I LOOKED AT IT SINCE JUNE.

>> MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF THIS TRYING TO GET ANYTHING PREPARED TO BE SOLD, IF IT'S THAT'S WHAT HIS REASONS ARE? WHY WOULDN'T WE -- ESPECIALLY ON

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THE RIVER. THAT COULD BE SOLD TOMORROW, DEVELOPED TOMORROW. SO IS THERE AN ACTION FOR THE EXTENSION, WHAT'S THE HARM IN GIVING IT A TWO YEAR EXTENSION ON? WHAT HARM WOULD IT DO FOR US TO GIVE THEM TWO YEAR EXTENSION? I'M NOT DEFENDING THE OWNER.

I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. WE HAVE TIME AND TIME, AGAIN, OF REQUESTS COMING IN FOR EXTENSION.

I DON'T RECALL HARDLY EVER OF A TWO YEAR EXTENSION? THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION AND WHY IT WAS PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SOMEBODY HAD TO PUT IT THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT'S NOT A ROAD WE DIDN'T TRAVEL BEFORE SO WHY IT WAS PUT, I DON'T KNOW.

THEN AGAIN, I DO KNOW. I HOPE THE COMMISSION WOULD PUT THEIR PERSONAL DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND HANDLE THE BUSINESS AS IT SHOULD BE HANDLED AND BE FAIR AND PUT OUT OUR PERSONAL DIFFERENTS TO THE SIDE. LIKE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

WE DO, SOME FROM THE NIGHT AND TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT PUZZLES ME. I JUST DON'T LIKE SETTING PRECEDENCE WHERE WE DO THINGS OUT OF THE NORM.

THIS IS NOTHING THAT'S TYPICAL FOR THE COMMISSIONER TO DO AND TO PULL THIS NOW, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY JUSTIFIABLE REASONS FOR DOING SO, OTHER THAN SOMEONE COULD TELL ME OTHERWISE, OTHER THAN ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE DO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO. IN FLORIDA, YOU HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS. OWNERS, SOME OF THE MOST LIBERAL RIGHTS. AT ANY RATE, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

THAT'S MY POSITION >> MADAM MAYOR?

>> YES, SIR >> I WAS ALONE, OPPOSER IN THE FIRST SITE PLAN. I DIDN'T GET TO VOTE IN THE 2016 PROPOSAL. COUPLE OF MY COMMENTS AT THE TIME, WERE ABOUT THE BUILDINGS IN ALIGNMENT OR ADJACENT TO INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, KNOWING HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO THE SIDEWALK.

THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE, IT WAS A MINOR ONE, WAS THE SEA WALL AND THE BULK-TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, ALONG THE LIVING WATERFRONT. I'M JUST OPPOSED TO THAT.

I BELIEVE AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO PROEFFECT OUR NATIONAL RESOURCES. THAT'S WHY I VOTED AGAINST IT IN 2018. IF COMMISSIONER WAS GOING TO PULL IT, I WAS GOING TO PULL IT FOR THAT EXACT REASON.

>> AND I WILL SAY THIS MAYOR. I DON'T DOUBT, BOTH OF YOU WILL PULL IT. I DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE.

AND BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU, I FIGURE SOMEBODY WOULD PULL IT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO POINT THE FINGER ON YOU OR NOTHING, I FIGURED THAT WOULD HAPPEN. I WAS NOT SURPRISED.

BUT, AGAIN, UNLESS, GENTLEMEN, YOU COULD SHOW SOME JUSTIFIABLE REASON, WE WOULDN'T APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD. THAT'S WHY THAT'S IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, I CAN'T SEE DOING SO. AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, BUT THAT, IN OF ITSELF, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WOULD MANDATE NOT HAVING THIS ITEM APPROVED IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS TRYING TO DO AND ACCOMPLISH HERE.

AND THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD DO BUSINESS.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FACILITATE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUILD AND PAY TAXES, WHETHER THEY SELL IT, WHETHER THEY DO IT THEMSELVES, WE HAVE THE POLICE OFFICERS OUT HERE.

WE HAVE VALUABLE PROPERTY. WE HAVE THE LOWEST PRICE WATERFRONT PROPERTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA RIGHT NOW.

WHAT I'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF THE PLANS OF THE PROPERTY, WILL STAND OUT AND REALLY LOOK NICE AND, YES, IT REQUIRES MR. ENGINEER, SOMETHING OUT OF THE NORM.

AT THE SAME TOKEN, LOOK WHAT IT WILL BRING.

THAT'S MY POSITION. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M NOT GRASPING, YOUR PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS. AS I SAID, THIS IS A GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. WE ATTEND STRATEGIC PLANNING

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EVERY YEAR AND START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO RAISE THE BAR FOR FORT PIERCE. YEAH, 2016, 17, 18, WE WERE USHERING PEOPLE THROUGH FORT PIERCE.

WE WERE CATERING TO THEM, TRYING TO GET THEM TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO GO VERTICAL IN SOME OF THE ASSETS THAT ARE GOING ON.

I WILL TELL YOU, THIS IS 2020. IT'S A NEW TIME AND IT'S A TIME FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE THINGS AND HOW IMPORTANT WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. WE DIDN'T START FOR TWO YEARS.

WE HAVE PROGRESSED. THE CITIES HAS WORKED PRETTY HARD. THE BUSINESS PARTNERS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. FOLKS, WANT TO ENHANCE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT MOVING AT ALL. THERE'S NOT AN ECONOMIC REASON FOR IT. SO I'M JUST BRINGING IT TO THE COMMISSION, AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THAT BAR FOR SURE, WE HAVE TO START MAKING NEW POLICIES AND MOVING, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTIONS ACCORDINGLY.

IF NOT, WE WOULD HAVE GIVEN UP A FOUR YEAR, FIVE YEAR BUILDING PERMIT ALLOWANCE FOR A SITE PLANNED.

AND WE DIDN'T. IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO REVISIT THIS. THIS IS THE TIME WE HAVE.

WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST, DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S HOW WE GO FORWARD. THINGS ARE CHANGING ALL THE TIME. WE'RE ALL STARTING TO CHANGE OUT HERE. THIS IS A NEW ERA.

IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT IT WITH THE FRESH EYES AND MOVE FORWARD.

I HAVE BIGGER VISIONS FOR FORT PIERCE THAN SITTING, WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY. I SEE THE PICTURE, SEE THE SITE PLANNED. I BET $20, I WILL NEVER SEE THAT BUILT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. I HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE IMPACTED NEGATIVELY, ARE NOW KNOCKING ON MY DOOR SAYING, HEY, YOU VOTED FOR IT.

YOU SUPPORTED IT. IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW? YOU WILL PUT US OUT THERE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS? I AM SAYING NO, I'M NOT.

FOR THAT, I CAN'T SUPPORT MOVING THIS AGAIN FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS. LOOK AT IT.

ALL THE ZONING CHANGES, THAT BELONGS TO THE PROPERTY.

THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

I'M BLAMING, IF THEY BRING -- IF THEY BROUGHT THE SITE PLAN TO US TODAY, WOULD WE VOTE ON IT POSITIVELY.

I DON'T THINK WE WOULD. WE'VE CHANGEDED THAT MUCH.

IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH A NEW PLAN, PLEASE BRING A SITE PLAN. BRING IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND MOVE IT FORWARD AGAIN.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, TO DETERMINE HOW WE MOVE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, MOVING FORWARD.

>> AND I REMEMBER, THERE'S A NUMBER OF CITIZENS, WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AT THAT PARTICULAR SITE.

I REMEMBER YOU WANTED IT A CROSSWALK, BECAUSE OF THE NEED, INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE THEIRS.

THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY MOVEMENT, AND THE REAL ESTATE IS HOT RIGHT NOW. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, 11B.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> AND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> YES, MAM. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS?

>> NO, MAM. >> MAYOR HUDSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC

[a. Resolution No. 20-R54 and Quasi-Judicial Hearing – A hearing to allow the owners and/or parties of interest in the property identified as 1909 N 16th Street to show cause why the structure located on the premises should not be condemned and demolished.]

HEARINGS. THE FIRST ITEM IS RESOLUTION, R54. RESOLUTION, CERTAIN STRUCTURE, 1909, NORTH 16TH STREET, 34950 IS UNSAFE, THAT CONSTITUTES TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, AND SAID BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED, DECLARING THE PARTY'S INTEREST, WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, ORDERING FORT PIERCE TO REMOVE AND PLACE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR AN APPEAL, PROVIDING NOTICE FOR ALL PARTIES AND PROVIDING FOR AN

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING. THERE WILL BE ONE MORE.

IF YOU HAVE A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING TONIGHT, PLEASE LISTEN

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TO THE CITY ATTORNEY MR. SWEENEY.

. >> CITY COMMISSIONER SEVERS AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE. WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY. BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICY. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY, COURT, IS HELD TO STRICTER JUDICIAL REQUIREMENTS.

QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT STANDARDS.

THAT'S WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED

THIS EVENING. >> THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE NOW IN ORDER. HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR

THE ITEM? >> YES, MA'AM, THE ADVERTISING

HAS BEEN MET. >> WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS

ABOUT EXPARTY COMMUNICATIONS. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, HAVE YOU HAD EXPARTY COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THIS PARTY?

>> YES, I HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> NO, MAM. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, NO

MAM, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES NOW? WOULD ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

>> OH, YES, MADAM CLERK. I HAVE SOME CONVERSATION, I'M

SORRY. >> ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD AND CONFIRM YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

>> IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.

MR. RICE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER. WE'RE REQUESTING FOR DEMOLITION FOR 1909, NORTH 16TH STREET. THERE'S QUITE A LONG HISTORY WITH THIS, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME, AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

IT'S QUITE DETAILED. WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FOR AN ABANDONED STRUCTURE IN DECEMBER OF 2017.

THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING COMPLETED THE INSPECTION REPORT.

THE INSPECTION WAS DONE BY SEAN CLARK.

HE NOTICED, ALL THAT REMAINED IN THE STRUCTURE.

AND HE REPORTED, IT WAS UNFIT FOR HUMAN OCCUPANCY.

CONSTITUTED IT BEING DECLARED. THE AFFIDAVIT OF SAFE STRUCTURE

WAS ISSUED JANUARY. >> I SPOKE TO -- OPENER HOWARD KESSLER, RECENTLY PASSED AWAY. SHE WAS UNAWARE HE OWNED THE PROPERTY. SHE ADVISED US OF THE GRASS.

I FORWARDED HER THE CITY FOR PREVIOUS LOT CLEARINGS.

AS OF TODAY, THEY REMAIN UNPAVED.

AT THAT TIME, KESSLER'S BUSINESS OFFICER ARRANGED FOR A QUICK CLAIM DEED TO RG DEVELOPER, INC. AND MINERVA CELESTETON.

IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, VIEW OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, WAS IN THE NAME. AND IN 2015, I TOOK OWNERSHIP ACTION. AND I CONTACTED THE PROPERTY APRAISER AND THEY CONFIRMED THE NAME COULDN'T BE CHANGED BECAUSE THE PROPERTY DIDN'T GO THROUGH PROBATE.

SO I REACHED OUT BACK TO MRS. KESSLER.

SHE WAS, BASICALLY. SHE HAD NO INTENTIONS OF STAYING PROBATE. SHE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY. I SPOKE WITH RG DEVELOPER, INC., PROVIDED THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED.

I REFERRED THEM, THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION, THAT WEIGH.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THE PERMITS ON THE PROPERTY HAD EXPIRED AND WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED IN MARCH, BUT IT WAS CANCELLED BECAUSE OF CO.

IT WAS ISSUE ISSUED. IN AUGUST 2019, THEY DEMOLISHED

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A PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE. THERE'S NO OF RADIO, NO INTERIOR. IT'S THREE CONCRETE WALLS.

IN FEBRUARY 2020, THE PERMIT EXPIRED.

THAT'S WHEN I SCHEDULED THIS, FOR THE MARCH HEARING.

WE NOTIFIED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF THE TITLE ISSUES.

AND THE PERMIT WAS RENEWED IN THE NAME OF RJ DEVELOPER, AFTER WE CONTACTEDED BY KESSLER. THERE WAS NEVER AN ESTATE TO PROBATE. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH, NOR DO I CARE. SHE RELAYED TO THE CITY, SHE HAD NO INTENTIONS OF TAKING ANY IS. AND AFTER RJ DEVELOPER WAS NOTIFIED OF US COMING FORWARD AGAIN, MOVING THE PROCESS FORWARD, THEY DID COME IN AND RENEWED THE PERMIT AGAIN.

THE PERMIT IS ACTIVE AT THIS TIME.

THOUGH NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE, SI

SINCE. >> WE START.

AND WE GOT THE INITIAL COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

ON JANUARY 2018, WE STARTED WITH THE AFFIDAVIT OF UNSAFE STRUCTURE. MARCH 2019, REHAB PERMIT WAS ISSUED. AUGUST 2019, STRUCTURE IS PARTIALLY DEMOLISHED. FROM THAT POINT TO, TO DAY, NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE. SINCE THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF

THE STRUCTURE IN 2019. >> COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION?

>> YES, SIR >> WE HAVE A COLORED PICTURE HERE. THIS ONE.

THIS IS IT. IS THIS THE PROPERTY?

>> I BELIEVE SO, SIR >> IT'S THE ONLY COLORED ONE.

>> I WAS OUT THERE A MONTH. >> THE ONLY -- CLEARED KWUP.

IT WAS A LOT OF WALLS THERE AND THE WALLS UP FRONT HAVE

DISAPPEARED. >> THE 4TH WALL WAS DEMOLISHED ON 2019. NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN THE

PROPERTY SINCE THEN. >> AND THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY

HERE. >> NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE.

THE PERMIT EXPIRED IN SEPTEMBER. >> BECAUSE THERE'S NO

INSPECTIONS AND NO WORK DONE. >> IT LOOKS LIKE, THERE'S A LOT

MORE HE >> DID YOU GIVE THESE TO US? THAT'S ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL.

HE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN IT COMES FORWARD.

>> IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY, MAYBE YOU NEED A COPY.

>> IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. >> IF I COULD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMITS. YOU HAVE THE OTHER SCREEN ON THE PERMITS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT EACH PERMIT. PERMITS ISSUED MARCH OF 2017.

>> THAT WAS SEVERAL PERMITS, INCLUDED IN, PLUMBING, ELECTRIC

AND ET CETERA. >> THAT WAS PART OF THE PERMIT?

>> YES. >>

. >> HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

I'M LOOKING AT ONE FROM 2018. I FINALLY PAIRED THEM UP.

THANK YOU. >> DID YOU HAVE MORE?

>> OKAY. >> THE NOTICE WAS SENT, CERTIFIED MAIL, BUT WAS RECLAIMED.

AND WE ALSO HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH DAVID THORNTON, WITH RJ DEVELOPER AND ROD WALLER, WITH SUN REZ.

AND THE TAXES ARE DUE FOR TWO YEARS.

THE NOTICE OF HEARING, WAS PROVIDED BY DEVELOPER ART DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. REGARDING THE RESPONSES, WE'VE SPOKE WITH MS. KESSLER ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

SHE'S INDICATED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND, SHE DOESN'T INTEND TO GO TO PROBATE. I'VE HAD.

FUNDS DUE, FOR NRNG. TAXES REMAIN UNPAID FOR THE

YEARS 2018 AND 2019. >> THERE'S NO LAW AGAINST THAT,

IS IT? >> NO, SIR

>> OKAY. . I'M JUST, MADAM MAYOR?

>> YES, SIR >> I AM JUST, FOR THE LIFE OF ME. I RIDE UP AND DOWN AND I SEE SO

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MANY DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS. AND IT'S A PERMIT ISSUE ON THIS,

WHY ARE WE. >> DEVELOPER AND WHOMEVER, I'M

SORRY, MA'AM. >> YOU HAVE MORE?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND JUST BRIEF STATUS, IT'S A NONHOMESTEAD PROPERTY AND IT'S VACANT.

THERE'S AN ACTIVE PERMIT. THAT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED.

IT'S NOT A HISTORIC PROPERTY. THERE'S NO UNIVERSITIES AT THE PROPERTY AND WE DID COMPLETE THE TITLE SEARCH.

THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL PARTIES THAT WERE NOTIFIED.

THIS IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROPERTY, EXCEPT FOR THE GRASS BEING CUT. AS I INDICATED, THE REAR WALL

WAS REMOVED LAST YEAR. >> THERE A LAW AGAINST THAT?

>> NO, SIR >> OKAY.

I'M TRYING TO FOM YOU. >> HAROLD KESSLER IS THE OWNER

AND HE'S DISEASE. >> IT'S CLOUDY.

AS I INDICATED, THE WIDOW DOESN'T INTEND TO GO THROUGH PROBATE. AND AT ONE TIME,.

THE NAME OF THE PROPERTY, IS SO IN HAROLD KESSLER ESTATE.

IT HAS TO REMAIN THAT WAY UNTIL IT GOES TO PROBATE.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, THE CONTRACT.

THEY GO THROUGH AN EXTENSION -- THEY DON'T WANT TO COORDINATE

HERE. >> THAT'S PRETTY CONCISE.

>> THAT'S KIND OF AWKWARD HERE. THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HOLDS THE PROPERTY, THAT HOLDS THE DEED, COULD CARE LESS.

THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE TO, I GUESS WITH THE LETTER, PLEADING TO GET AN EXTENSION, ANOTHER EXTENSION?

>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING >> AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF WHAT IS REMAINING AT THE PROPERTY NOW.

THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THIS. AND IT SHOWS THE NEIGHBORS, PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, IS OWNED BY MS. DIANE.

H HE'S.

SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONER REGARDING THE EFFECT THIS

PROPERTY IS HAVING ON HER. >> I'M NOT READY FOR THE PUBLIC

HEARING RIGHT NOW. >> THIS I PART OF THE

PRESENTATION. >> IT'S PART OF YOUR

PRESENTATION, OJ. >> IF IT'S PART OF COMBRUR PRESENTATION, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DIANE PRINCE DARDEN. I LIVE IN 1905 NORTH 16TH STREET. I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS VACANT PROPERTY. AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON MY BEHALF AND THAT I AM TIRED OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR YEARS. I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN CHANGED HANDS. I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE GO THROUGH THINGS AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT THE RIGHT WAY.

AS A PROPERTY OWNER, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY, NUMBER ONE, IT'S AN EYE SORE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.

THEY COULDN'T COME. I AM HERE TO SAY, THAT THERE'S TIMES THE GRASS GOTTEN SO HIGH. YES, I KNOW THE CONTRACTOR.

AT THIS POINT, I WANT SOMETHING TO BE DONE.

I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S A PANDEMIC.

I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GO ON.

AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT, YOU ARE AFRAID, TO LET YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN PLAY OUT IN YOUR OWN YARD, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I HAVE A 4-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON AND I WON'T ALLOW HIM TO GO ON THAT SIDE, WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, TO

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PLAY IN MY OWN YARD. THE GRASS HAS GOTTEN VERY HIGH NOW. NOW THERE ARE LIZARDS, BIG LIZARDS. I KNOW THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OF THAT. THERE'S SNAKES.

I FOUND ONE IN MY BACKYARD. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MY BEHALF.

YES, I TALKED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.

THEY WANT SOMETHING DONE AND IT'S ONLY FAIR.

I HAVE BEEN PATIENT. I HAVE UNDERSTANDING.

I HAVE BEEN PROFESSIONAL. BUT NOW THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO ACCOMMODATE MY 4-YEAR-OLD, GOING OUT IN MY FRONT YARD AND I DARE NOT GO IN MY BACKYARD.

FOR ANY REASON. SO I ASK, YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, TO GET THIS SETTLED, PLEASE DO SO.

I HAVE TO LIVE THERE. AND THIS IS WHERE MY PARENTS RAISED US. THAT COMMUNITY, OUR STREETS WERE NOT LIKE THE WAY IT IS NOW. I HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE ABOUT THEM, ABOUT IT. IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING.

RATHER THAN TEAR IT DOWN, THAT'S OKAY WITH ME.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW HIM, MORE EXTENSION, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A TIME LIMIT AS TO SOMETHING BEING DONE.

I WOULD HOPE, EVERYBODY INVOLVED WILL UNDERSTAND THAT.

THIS IS MY HOME. THIS IS MY GRANDSON'S PLACE WHERE HE LOVES TO COME SEE HIS NANNA.

SO PLEASE, TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, HAS A

QUESTION. >> MA'AM, YOU SAID, THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO ARE YOU IN A POSITION TONIGHT, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GIVE ANOTHER EXTENSION?

>> WORST CASE SCENARIO? WHAT'S THE IDEA OF BEING DONE

MEANS TO YOU? >> I AM A FAIR PERSON, OKAY. IF HE IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITHIN SIX MONTHS, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, FOR NOW. IF HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING, I SAY TEAR IT DOWN AND LET'S GET OVER THIS.

IF HE CANNOT DO SOMETHING IN SIX MONTHS, TO RECTIFY THIS, AND IT'S BEEN MANY, MANY TIMES BEFORE, NO.

I'M NOT GOING -- I'M NOT GOING BEYOND SIX MONTHS.

>> SIX MONTHS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

>> SIX MONTHS FROM THIS DATE. >> YOU SHOULD KNOW.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CALL ME.

IT IS GOING TO BE MY LAST NIGHT. I HAVE TO CALL HIM

>> I WANT TO GET IT DONE TONIGHT.

WHAT'S YOUR POSITION? YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU'VE BEEN CALLED AND BURNING MY PHONE UP. AND I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL, IT'S BEEN EXTENDED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I DON'T EVEN THINK ROLAND KNOWS THE ISSUE ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF ROLAND KNOWS WHAT HE'S GOTTEN HIMSELF INTO.

YOU SAY, YOU DON'T MIND EXTENDING IT AGAIN, IF THE

DECISION COMES UP? >> YOU KNOW WHAT MR. SESSION, COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? I WILL GIVE MR. ROLAND THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF WHAT'S BEEN TOLD, AS FAR AS THE PANDEMIC. OKAY. SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY, I -- I'M GOING TO CALL COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

I'M GOING TO CALL MAYOR HUDSON >> PLEASE DO.

>> AND I'M GOING TO CALL, IF I GET EVERYBODY'S NAME, DIANE PRESS IS GOING TO CALL YOU ALL. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO ME, TO PUSH THIS ANY MORE. I LIKE GIVING PEOPLE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP YOUR

WORD. >> MA'AM, YOU FEED TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. I KNOW.

WE HAVE THE MESSAGE AND HE DID, TOO.

HE DID TOO. >> CLOSING.

YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING IN HERE.

YEP. YES

PEGGY. >> AND THIS IS JUST A QUICK

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CLOSING. THERE'S REACTIONS THE COMMISSIONER COULD TAKE TONIGHT. YOU COULD APPROVE IT AS THE RESOLUTION, AS IT'S WRITTEN AND PRESENT IT.

AND YOU COULD CHANGE IT. YOU COULD AMEND IT, YOU COULD DO A CONSIDERATION OR YOU COULD DENY IT IN FULL.

WE WILL PROVIDE A 30 DAYS IN APPEAL.

IT WON'T HAVE TO GO TO A PRESERVATION BOARD AND WE WILL DO A FINAL NOTICE. THE COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PAGE THERE. IT COULD BE AMENDED.

IT COULD BE DENIED OR IT COULD BE APPROVED.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE CHOICES FOR THE COMMISSIONER TONIGHT.

THAT'S THE STAFF HAS. >> AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR

STAFF? >> THANK YOU.

>> WHICH WALL WAS REMOVED ON THE PLAN THERE.

>> THE REAR WALL. THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE

6 AND 5. >> THAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE THE

WESTERN WALL. >> WESTERN WALL.

>> AND IN THE PERMIT APPLICATION, THE CENTER PRINTS THAT WE'VE ATTACHED, I HAVE A FEELING, THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE WE TALKED ABOUT, IS THAT PART OF THE PERMIT.

WERE THE PRINTS, THE PERMIT APPLICATION.

WAS IT JUST THE REPAIR RENOVATION.

>> I DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT IN FRONT OF ME.

I KNOW IT'S A REPAIR PERMIT AND THE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS WERE THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

>> IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. >> COULD WE GET, COULD I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL BACK SOMEONE, TO ASK THAT QUESTION, THAT MAY

HAVE THAT ANSWER. >> THE BUILDING PERMIT IS

WATCHING SO. >> YES.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE AND MR. RAYS, I THINK YOU MAY BE EXCUSED

>> WORKS OUT -- >> YEAH

. >> THANK YOU.

YEP. ONE SECOND, MR. RAYS.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?

>> MY NAME IS WARREN DARSON. FROM DOLPHIN DEVELOPER.

>> AND YOU'RE THE APPLICANT? >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND YOU WERE SWORN IN.

>> YES. >> AND YOUR QUESTION OF

MR. RAYS, PLEASE >> YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HER?

>> I DO. >> THE INFORMATION SHE GIVE IS

NOT REALLY CORRECT, 100 PERCEN >> YOU PRESENT WHAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT, UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION OF HERS.

>> DID YOU HAVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM WITH ME?

THAT'S THE QUESTION >> NO, SIR

>> BECAUSE I THINK.

>>. >> YOU PRESENT, WHAT YOU WANT TO

PRESENT. >> AND IF I MAY, YOU HAVE 20 MINUTES, YOU COULD SEE THE TIMER IN THE PODIUM.

>> MR. ROLAND, YOU MAY WANT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE AT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT. AND I KNOW IT'S EVIDENTIARY HEARING. YOU MAY LOOK WHAT YOU MAY BE LOOKING TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH. YOU MAY WANT TO TALK YOURSELF

WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. >> AND COMMISSIONER.

>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER. >> AND MY NAME IS ROLAND DAWSONVILLE. I'M CEO OF QIEN CONSTRUCTION.

AND IT'S MY FIRST TIME IN MY CAREER, I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. FIRST OF ALL, MY MIND WAS BLOWN BECAUSE I COME FOR THE DEMOLITION -- I DIDN'T COME THERE FOR THE DISEASED, SO NOW I HAVE TO PUT THIS END.

IF YOU LOOK AT MY LETTER, I DO HAVE A BLUEPRINT ON THE PROPERTY AND I STOPPED THE CONSTRUCTION AND I HAVE DEMOLITION PERMIT, DUE TO THE COVID-19 MY STAFF AND WE HAVE A LOT OF JOB, KEEPING ME FROM GOING FORWARD. ME AND MS. DIANE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. WE ALWAYS TALK ALL THE TIME.

THIS IS WHERE I AM. NOW, I UNDERSTAND, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THEY WILL ASK, IF SHE HAS A PERSONAL PROBLEM WITH ME.

I GIVE YOU THREE COUNTS, AND DON'T HAVE ANY PERMIT.

I DO MY THING LEGIT. I STICK WITH MY ENGINEERING, AND ALL MY STAFF, WE DO EVERYTHING PROPERLY, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO

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IT. THE PROPERTY, DESERVED TO BE CONDONED. WE HAVE ELECTRICITY.

YOU MOVE, YOU MOVE THE ELECTRIC. THAT OF ANY THEFT.

THE BACK FROM THE WEST WALL, WE REMOVE IT, BECAUSE THAT WAS TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH. WE WILL MAKE IT FIVE BEDROOM, ONE BATH. I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE BLUEPRINT. HOW IT WILL LOOK, WHEN WE FINISHED. IT WILL BE THE BEST PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. COVID SLOWED ME DOWN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CAN'T PUT TOO MANY PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME.

I'M TRYING TO SATISFY THE CUSTOMER.

NOW, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE -- I WAS NOT EVEN GOING TO TAKE IT OUT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT FEE. THAT'S HOW -- I WAS GOING TO BE HAPPY BY MYSELF TO REMOVE IT AND PUT NEW ONE OFF.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT FEE, LET ME ADD IT UP.

AND THIS IS THE PATH AWAY. AND SO THEY NEVER DO THE PERMIT.

AND NOW I GO TO THE LAWYER, AND TO GO THROUGH, AND MAKE HER GO, AND DOING WHAT SHE HAS TO DO, SHE HAS NO MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

NOW DUE AFTER TWO YEARS, SHE HAS TO -- AND MAKE HER GO BACK THERE AND WE CAN GO FORWARD. THIS IS WHERE I AM

>> AND ROLAND. >> PROBATE, VERY LENGTHY PROCESS. AND IT SEEMS LIKE, TO ME, THAT'S WHAT IS STILL IN THE AIR. WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.

WE STILL ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE PROPERTY, PIECE OF PROPERTY, THAT'S IN QUESTION, THAT HAS NOT BEEN EVEN BEEN PROBATED.

AND YOU'RE IN THE OWNER, YOU IN THE POSITION TO OFFER SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHOW AND SUBSTANTIATE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE PULLED IN PERMITS, PULLED IN CONSTRUCTION, START IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IT'S STILL IN PROBATE AND IF THE WOMAN DOESN'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE PROBATE, WHERE ARE WE AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ANOTHER THING. THIS IS AN EYE SORE IN THE AREA.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT IT, AND I NE YU COULD WORK MIRACLES AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU ASSESS THE SITUATION AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING PROFITABLE TO YOU. WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING TO BE TORN DOWN. BE IT AS IT MAY, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, NOT MINE. IT'S BEEN AGGRAVATING FOR YEARS NOW. GETTING BACK TO THE QUESTION, WHERE ARE WE AT IN THE PROBATE. YOU COULD TAKE IT AND MOVE

FORWARD, WHAT'S GOING ON? >> MS. KESSLER WAS DOING IT THROUGH THE PROBATE DUE TO THE HOSPITAL BILL.

SHE SAYS, SHE HAS NO MONEY TO PAY.

THAT'S OVER TWO YEARS. I'M GOING TO ALLOW MY ATTORNEY, TO ISSUE THE PROBATE AND I WILL PAY FOR IT WITH MY POCKET.

>> YOU WILL PAY FOR IT. SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, HOW SOON WILL IT BE TO PULL A PERMIT

>> I HAVE A PERMIT. I HAVE PERMIT TO BUILD FROM GROUND AND UP. I DON'T HAVE TO PULL NOTHING.

THAT'S A NEW PERMIT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

>> HOW SOON WILL IT BE TO START CONSTRUCTION?

>> AGAIN, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PROJECT IN FRONT OF ME.

I WILL LET MY PARTNER ANSWER. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> WHICH PERMIT DO YOU HAVE ACTIVE?

>> THE SAME PERMIT YOU HAVE, IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.

IT'S NOT LIKE REPAIR PERMIT. >> READ THE NUMBER FOR ME, THE

TOP RIGHT CORNER. >> 183836.

>> SAME ONE I HAVE. THANK YOU

>> READY, YES, SIR

>>. >> WOULD YOU SWEAR IN?

>> DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

>> I DO. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> JOHN GEORGE, 2909 CONIFER DRIVE, FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA.

FIRST OF ALL, THE PROPERTY IS A WHOLE LOT MORE PROPERTIES WORST THAN THAT PROPERTY. AND IF WE KEEP THE GLASS CLEAN

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AND I DID A LOT FOR DIANE. I'VE BEEN IN THE BACK, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SICK. NOW THAT I'M UP, I TOLD DIANE, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY WILL GET STARTED.

WE'LL START DOING WORK. SIX MONTHS, YOU SAW THOSE PLANS, WHO WILL HAVE IT BUILT IN SIX MONTHS.

NOBODY. I DON'T CARE IF WE WORK ALL DAY AND NIGHT AND EVERYTHING. SO WE NEED TO GIVE AT LEAST, A

YEAR FOR THE PROJECT. >> HOW SOON YOU COULD START?

>> WE CAN START TOMORROW. IT DOESN'T MEAN, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE UP. OKAY.

WE HAVE ALL THE PERMITS. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, LIKE WE TOLD YOU. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, A LOT, LIKE THE PERSON DIED. AND THE WIFE AND ALL OF THAT

STUFF >> SO ONCE YOU GET CLEAR, ARE YOU READY TO START CONSTRUCTION THE NEXT DAY

>> THE NEXT DAY. IT'S NOT A FINANCIAL PROBLEM.

WE CAN DO IT. WE CAN GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

I TOLD DIANE THAT. ME AND HER SAID THAT.

FOR PEOPLE, TO STAY QUIET OUTSIDE.

I TOLD HER, THAT I WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GO AROUND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. AND YOU KNOW ALL ME, SO, YOU ALL KNOW ME. I'M A MAN OF MY WORD.

WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AT COMMISSIONER. OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YES? >> THANK YOU.

>> >> THE PERMIT YOU TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, WAS THAT THE FIRST PERMIT YOU RECEIVED ON THE

PERMIT. >> THE PERMIT AND IT'S A PERMIT TO BUILD FROM GROUND TO UP. TO SET OF BLUEPRINTS YOU HAVE.

>> SPENT EVERYTHING ON IT. >> THAT'S IN 2018.

>> YES, SIR >> LET ME SEE, IF YOU HAVE 2018.

>> THE PERMIT NUMBER IS 18-SOMETHING.

I'M ASSUMING, IT'S 2018. >> 18, 38, 36.

>> THE DATE. >> THE DATE, YES.

>> YES YES

. >> SO YOU HAVE SIGN AND SEALED PLANS, THAT I HAVE HERE. ARE THOSE PLANS, SIGNED AND SEALED CURRENTLY. IS THAT THE DATE BACK THEN, TOO

>> FROM THE SAME DATE, YES. >> AND OKAY. AND SO ARE YOU LICENSED CONTRACTOR OR PULLING THE PERMITS?

>> YES WE'RE LICENSED CONTRACTOR.

PULLED THE PERMIT. >> OKAY. .

>> WE DON'T NEED NO MORE PERMIT. THE SAME PERMIT IS THE ONE FROM GROUND AND UP. THE SAME ONE YOU'RE JUST

READING. >> YOU MENTIONED GROUND AND UP.

YOU'RE -- ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD THE WALLS THAT ARE THERE AND

BUILD AROUND THE WALLS? >> NO, THE WALLS YOU HAVE THERE, THEY ARE GOING TO STAY. THE ONE WE TEAR IT DOWN FROM THE WEST SIDE, WHERE WE WILL PUSH THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT BACK

AND PULL. >> AND THE OTHER THREE WALLS,

YOU WILL MAINTAIN? >> YES, SIR

>> HAS YOUR ENGINEER RECORD AFFECTED THE REBAR.

>> AND FROM THE BLUEPRINT. >> THERE'S A LOT CHANGED FROM MARCH OF 2018, TO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER -- WHERE ARE WE AT?

NOVEMBER, 2020. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AS WE COME FROM INSPECTION, THAT WILL DETERMINE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHEN WE GET THERE. IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEM.

>> WELL, NOT NECESSARILY. BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE YOUR DOWNPOURS ARE AND YOUR CONCRETE, DOES YOUR -- HELP ME OUT HERE.

>> MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE STRICTURE ITSELF.

LOT OF THINGS CHANGED. >> WE GO BY THE PLANS.

IF THE ENGINEER TELL US, WE NEED TO ADD MORE REBAR OR WHATEVER.

I'M SURE, WHEN WE GET THE INSPECTIONS DONE, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CHECK THAT TO MAKE SURE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.

I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE,

OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE? ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE?

>> SO DID YOU WANT TO ASK THE BUILDING OFFICIALS SOMETHING,

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> YEAH.

DO WE HAVE? DO WE HAVE SOMEONE?

>> I WANT TO KNOW, IF I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO

-- >> YEAH, I NEED TO ASK NOW.

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I HEARD SOME INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. THE ONE THAT HAS TO CERTIFY IT.

>> DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FROM THE -- FROM -- WHERE IS

MR. NIMS. >> MR. NIMS IS TO GET

MR. THOMAS? >> YEAH

. >> NICK WENT TO GET HIM.

>> NICK IS GONE. >> EXCUSE US, JUST A MOMENT,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN >> I THINK HE'S HERE.

DO YOU NEED TO SWEAR HIM IN, MR. COX?

>> I DO. >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUG, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

>> I DO. >> MR. THOMAS, COMMISSIONER HAS

SOMETHING FOR ME. >> WE HEARD SOME TESTIMONY, SEEN SOME LITERATURE IN FRONT OF US. THERE'S A PERMIT PULLED ON THE PROPERTY FROM 2018, MARCH OF 2018, PERMIT APPLICATION I HAVE.

THERE'S SIGNED AND SEALED ENGINEERING PLANS, IN ADDITION TO THAT. AND THE APPLICANT TESTIFIED TONIGHT THAT DURING THE INSPECTION PROCESS, THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO CERTIFY THAT THE STRUCTURE INTEGRITY IS OKAY AT THE TIME OF YOUR INSPECTION. IS THIS ACCURATE?

>> THAT'S INCORRECT. THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO VERIFY STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY WOULD BE AN ENGINEER.

NORMALLY, LIKE IN THE CASE, YOU HAVE A BUILDING, IT'S BEEN EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS WITHOUT A ROOF FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WATER INTRUEDS INTO THE CEMENT OR AROUND POTENTIALLY WHERE THE REBAR IS. IF THE ENGINEER COMES AND SAYS, IT LOOKS LIKE IN HIS OPINION, GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO ATTACH TO OR THEY CAN CONNECT TO IT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE WILL NEED TO BE THE ONES TO ACCEPT THE LIE ABILITY, CITY OF FORT PIERCE CAN'T SAY, THE CITY WILL BE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT WILL BE DESIGN OF A

PROFESSIONAL. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND THE OTHER THING THAT INTRIGUED ME, LOOKS LIKE A SET OF PRINTS FROM 2018, I DIDN'T SEE REALLY ANCHORED DETAILS OR CONNECTIONS.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SET OF PRINTS.

>> I'M NOT, I'M SORRY. >> YOU GO BY DETAILS AND CENTERED DETAILS OF CENTERED ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS.

>> THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. THOMAS, BEFORE HE LEAVES?

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO I'LL ENTERTAIN

DISCUSSION. >> MADAM, MAYOR.

>> YES. >> I'M TORN WITH THIS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW THE PROJECT COULD MOVED FORWARD, PRESENTED INFORMATION, NEARBY RESIDENTS ARE HAVING AN ISSUE.

I HAVE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE PERMITS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MOVED FORWARD. WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S PROBATE HEARING THAT'S GOING ON, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN TRY TO GUARANTEE THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD.

MY HANG-UP, WE DON'T KNOW, IF IT COULD MOVE FORWARD.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD-FAITH EFFORT, AT THIS POINT.

THE CITY OF FORTH WORTH AND TAXPAYERS HAVE EXTENDED EFFORT AND MONEY TOWARDS THIS. AND I AM JUST NOT SURE IF I CAN GO WITH ANYTHING, EXCEPT FOR WHAT STAFF HAS PRESENTED TONIGHT

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. >> I'M TROUBLED BY THE FACT, THERE'S GOING TO BE WORK DONE BY THIS AND THE TITLE IS NOT CLEAR AND THE WHOLE, THE OWNERSHIP IS NOT CLEAR.

IF THAT WERE CLEARER, I COULD BE WILLING TO GRANT THE EXTENSION.

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I DON'T KNOW THERE'S WORK THAT COULD BE STARTED, IF THE OWNERSHIP IS NOT SETTLED. THAT'S WHAT TROUBLED ME.

>> AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S WHAT TROUBLES ME ALSO.

AND PROBATE IS A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS.

>> IT DOESN'T TAKE, IT DOESN'T TAKE FEW DAYS, RIGHT?

>> HOWEVER, MS. DARDEN, BY THE WAY, THAT'S THE EXDAUGHTER-IN-LAW, THE YOUNG LADY THAT WAS 102-YEAR-OLD.

>> RIGHT, I RECOGNIZE HER NAME. >> AND MS. DARDEN, HAS INDICATED THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY CHANGED MY MIND BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I SAW THEY TOOK THE POSITION THAT YOU ALL DID.

IN LIGHT OF THE TWO OF THEM BEING AMEANABLE TO GIVING HIM A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THAT'S WHY I QUESTIONED HER ABOUT THAT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

IT APPEARS, THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTS.

AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT'S SUFFERING MORE THAN ANYONE AND IN TERMS IN PROPERTY IN THE STATE THAT IT'S IN.

SHE'S BEEN SUFFERING FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND SHE'S TIRED.

AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK SHE HAS CONFIDENCE, AND SHE'S WILLING TO GIVE THEM EXTENSION. IF THEY BUILD WHAT I SAW IN THE PLANS, IT WILL LOOK NICE. IT PROBABLY WILL IMPROVE OUR PROPERTY, TOO. THE THING IS, JUST GETTING IT DONE. WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH FOR THE LONGEST WITH THIS.

IF SHE LIKES IT, I LOVE IT. IF THEY CAN'T GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER BY THE END, TEAR IT DOWN.

I LOVE SEEING A NEW HOUSE BEING BUILT, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THEY ARE ABLE TO PUT THE MONEY INTO IT, AND SHE'S WILLING TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE, IN ORDER TO PUT UP WITH IT FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

>> ANYONE ELSE. >> I SAID, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF BUILDINGS. AND INSTEAD OF TAKING DOWN THE STRUCTURE, IT WILL BE ALL -- I'M JUST I'M SAYING, WHY IS THE PERMITS, IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO UTILIZE THE

PERMITS. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> I'M TORN, TOO. IT'S SOMETHING I USED TO DO MYSELF. MY PARTNER AND I BOUGHT A LOT OF PROPERTY IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION.

A LOT OF THEM WERE NOT THIS BAD OF SHAPE AND SOME OF THEM DID NOT HAVE ROOFS. WE GOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORKED OUR MAGIC AND GOT THEM, IN TAX ROLES AND GOT THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I KNOW IT'S CHEAPER AND EASIER, WHEN YOU HAVE STRUCTURE ALREADY THERE AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING IMPACT FEES AND GOING THROUGH THE IMPACT PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT INFIELD AND TRYING TO BRING THE LEVEL OF THE HOUSING STOCK UP AND WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATION IN THE AVENUE, H AREA AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. I COULD SEE THAT POINT, AND IF I LIVE NEXT TO THE HOUSE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND I, TOO, HAVE A 2-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON AND 7-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON.

AND I WOULD BE SCREAMING. I WOULD BE CALLING HIM LIKE EVERY DAY. IS THAT WHAT YOU DID? SO I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CREDIBILITY WITH THE CONTRACTOR CAME FORWARD ON US. I LIKE THE IDEA OF STARTING AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY TOMORROW.

IF WE GET SOME ACTIVITY GOING ON THERE, IT'S THE SAME THING.

IF WE WENT AND KNOCKED THE HOUSE DOWN, BUILDING ALL OVER AGAIN, YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE ACTIVITY.

IT'S THE QUESTION OF NO ACTIVITY.

I THINK IF WE FEEL SOMEWHAT GUARANTEED THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN AND THERE'S THE TWO FOLKS BACK THERE THAT WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN HERE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING TONIGHT. YOU WILL NOT GET, ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE EVER. WE'RE HOLDING THAT BAR PRETTY HIGH. SO I'M TAKING A LEAD FROM MY COMMISSIONER, DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONERS.

IF THEY ARE SUPPORTING THIS, SO WILL I.

>> MS. JARDEN, IS SIGNALLING ISSING THAT THAT SHE AND THE

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NEIGHBORS. THIS IS IT, KIND OF THING.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> COMMENT BEFORE WE DO THAT.

THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND, TOO I THINK THE IMPACT FEES ARE NOT IMPACT FEES UNTIL YOU LET IT SIT DORMANT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

I DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL OF THAT.

I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU DECIDED TO CHANGE YOUR HOUSE, I THINK YOU HAVE ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE YOU COULD GET CHARGED NEW FEE.

AND I'LL ASK PETE. HE'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.

AND I JUST REMEMBER THAT. THAT'S NOT AN INFLUENCE IN MY DECISION AT THIS MOMENT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

AND I AN AGREE. THE OTHER THING THAT WORRIES ME AND I LIKE SIX MONTHS. SIX MONTHS IS BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON STARTS. WHEN YOU GET RID OF THE 4TH WALL, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH WIND SCENARIO, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

IT'S GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE OF HIGH WINDS POTENTIALLY, ON ITS OWN; RIGHT? THE STRUCTURE HAS CHANGED, INTEGRITY HAS CHANGED.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH SIX MONTHS ALSO.

WE HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS PULLED IN SIX MONTHS.

WE HAVE TO START CONNECTING STRUCTURAL MEMBERS BACK 'PLACE, WHETHER IT'S TIDE BEAMS OR REBARS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THING IS SAFE. BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'LL STOP THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH A POSY DOWN THE ROAD, THAT HELPS WITH PICKING UP PROPERTIES THAT ARE, READY TO BE KNOCKED DOWN, THAT SHOULD BE KNOCKED DOWN, MAYBE COME UP WITH INCENTIVES, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER SESSION WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT, AND DISCUSSION OF AVENUE H. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING DOWN THE LINE, THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, RATHER THAN JUMP AROUND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, ABOUT IMPACT FEES AND ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. AND I'M REMINDED WITH THE WHOLE THING OF THUMB POINT AND WHAT WE DID WITH THE STRUCTURE, THAT PRETTY MUCH STAYED THE SAME WAY 20 YEARS.

>> AND AFTER PUSHING AS HARD AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND GETTING TO THIS POINT RIGHT HERE, WE GOT THE ATTENTION OF THE OWNER AND CONTRACTOR AND THAT BUILDING, THAT HOME RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING LIKE IT BELONGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S ALMOST AT THE END, END OF ITS CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE KNOW THAT WORKS. AGAIN, I TAKE THE LEAD FROM DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONERS AND IF THEY ARE SUPPORTING THIS, SO

WILL I. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVALS OF SIX MONTHS EXTENSION.

>> I'LL SECOND IT. >> QUESTION.

>> SIX MONTHS, AND I AGREE. I COULD HELP THEM, TOO, AND THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD, THEY WILL GET IT DONE IN SIX MONTHS. JUST TO START THE PROCESS AND TO BE NOTICEABLE AS FAR AS AND MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY DURING

THAT PERIOD OF TIME. >> YEAH.

>> MAKING UP THE MOTION. >> HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION. WE HAVE TO START THE PROCESS

AGAIN. >> I WOULD THINK, TO SET THE

HEARING. >> OKAY. WHAT WAS YOUR

QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> WHEN WE SAY, TO START THE PROCESS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS, BUILDING AND PULLING A PERMIT OR HAVING A FIRS INSPECTION, FOR ME IN MY MIND. THAT WAY WE KNOW, SOMETHING IS GOING ON. THEY ARE OUT THERE ON THE SITE AND THEY ARE DOING ACTIVE WORK. FIRST INSPECTION.

>> WHAT ABOUT UTILITIES HOOKUP. UTILITIES.ORG.

>> AND NOT YET, I DON'T THINK. >> AND MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY? I WILL TRY TO ADD A LITTLE CLARITY.

THERE ARE TWO THINGS GOING ON. I WILL ASK IF MS. RAYS HAS TO CLARIFY. THERE'S CONDEMNATION AND DEMOLITION. CONDEMNING THE PROPERTY, BASED ON THE NUISANCE, HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE ISSUE AND THE SUBSEQUENT FOLLOW THROUGH THAT THE CITY WILL GO DEM LISH WHATEVER, AND MAYOR IS SHOWING, SIX MONTH PROCESS, TO AVOID DEMOLITION, MAYBE NOT CONDEMNATION. AND IT MAY NOT BE, IF THE BENCHMARK IS MET. I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS ASKING, WHAT WOULD BE AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE A HEARING.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT YOU MOVING INTO THE SAME OBJECTIVE STANDARD. AS MS. COX INDICATED, OTHERWISE IT'S CLEAR AS MUD AND WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING AND REVISIT ALL THE ISSUES. AGAIN, THERE IS AN ACTIVE

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BUILDING PERMIT BASED ON THE REPRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT. TYPICALLY THERE'S A LEVEL OF INSPECTIONS THAT WILL GO THROUGH.

MAYBE ONE OF THE FIRST AND SECOND TIER INSPECTION WILL BE APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE SIX MONTHS.

IT WILL OBVIOUSLY NEED SOME TYPE OF STABILIZED FLOORING.

TYPICALLY, YOU BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP.

I'M NOT THE BUILDING COMMISSIONER.

I DON'T PLAY ONE ON TV. YOU WILL HAVE ROUGH PLUMBING.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS FAMILIAR WITH THE CONTEXT AS WELL.

WORKING IN CONJUNCTION, YOU COULD GET AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD THAT COULD BE MET. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> WITH THE MOTION MAKER? >> TO AT LEAST HAVE INCLUDED OR PASSED THE FIRST INSPECTION. SUBJECT TO REVIEW, IF NOT BY THE

COMMISSION. >> CONCUR.

>> WE'RE READY TO VOTE. >> OKAY CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> GENTLEMEN, MAM.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> YES, MAM.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> YES, MAM.

[b. Resolution No. 20-R55 and Quasi-Judicial Hearing – A hearing to allow the owners and/or parties of interest in the property identified as 712 Avenue E to show cause why the structure located on the premises should not be condemned and demolished.]

>> MAYOR HUDSON? >> YES, MAM.

>> NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTION, DETERMINING A CERTAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 712 AVENUE E IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA IS UNSAFE AND CONSTITUTE A MENACE TO THE BUSINESS AND HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.

THAT SAID BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE DEMOLISHED, DECLARING PARTIES BE AVAILABLE TO BE HEARD AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUILDING OF THE STRUCTURE AND ORDERING CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO REPLACE A LIEN, IDENTIFIED, PROVIDING FOR PO, PROVIDING FOR ALL NOTICE OF ALL PARTIES AND PROVIDING FOR ALL EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> HAS THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET?

>> ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET. >> WILL YOU CHECK FOR EXPARTY

COMMUNICATIONS? >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> NO, MAM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>>? >> NO MAM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON? >> NO, MAM.

>> WOULD YOU SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES PLEASE.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.

DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, TELL NOTHING BUT THE

TRUTH? >> THANK YOU

>> YOU MAY PROCEED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE HERE, TO DECLARE, 712 AVENUE E: THERE IS A MUCH BRIEFER HISTORY WITH THIS ONE.

WE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS BACK IN 2017.

WE ACTUALLY SECURED THE STRUCTURE.

THE CITY BOSHEDED IT UP. HOWEVER, WE CONTINUED TO RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, REGARDING THE ABANDON STRUCTURE AND VAGUE RANTS WERE LIVING IN THE RESIDENTS AND THERE'S DRUG ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE. A PROPERTY INSPECTION REPORT WAS COMPLETED BY THE BUILDING INSPECTO IN JANUARY OF 2020 THIS YEAR AND HE DETERMINED THE BUILDING WAS UNSAFE AND RECOMMENDED DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE AFFIDAVIT UNSAFE STRUCTURE WAS ISSUED MARCH 5TH, 2020 AND THE TAXES REMAIN UNPAID FOR 2017, 2018, 2019.

AND THE IN THES OF UNSAFE BUILDING, SENT CERTIFIED MAIL, AND IT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED. AND THE FOLLOW-UP WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED. WE DID SEND CERTIFICATES TO THE TAX OWNERS. THIS IS AN ESTATE.

THE OWNER IS DECEASED. WE'VE DONE THE TITLE SEARCH.

WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE ANY HEIRS.

WE'VE DONE SOME DUE DILIGENCE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO HAS INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY. WHICH IS INDICATED, WHEN THE TAXES ARE NOT PAID. IT IS NOT HOMESTEADED.

WE ARE UNAWARE OF ANY ATTEMPTS. THERE'S NO COACTIVE ENFORCEMENTS AT THIS TIME. IT IS A HISTORIC PROPERTY.

IT HAS GONE THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND THEY HAVE APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THERE ARE NO UTILITIES AND WE DID COMPLETE THE TITLE SEARCH.

THIS IS THE STRUCTURE AS IT STANDS.

THIS IS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE BOARD UP OF THE DOOR HAS BEEN REMOVED.

THIS IS THE FLOOR. THIS IS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.

AND THESE ARE SOME SHOTS, THE LEFT SHOT IS THE INTERIOR FROM THE REAR. THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS ACTUALLY FROM THE FRONT AND THEN YOU COULD SEE ON THE THIRD PICTURE

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TO THE RIGHT, IS JUST HOW THE SIDING IS STARTING TO DETERIORATE AND FALL IN. THIS IS THE EAST SIDE WALL AND, AGAIN, YOU COULD SEE HOW THE SIDING -- YOU COULD SEE THE BUILDING IS SAGGING COMPLETELY AND THE SIDING IS STARTING TO COME DOWN. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE LOCATION. YOU COULD SEE IT'S IN DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

IT IS ALSO, DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM THE PRESCHOOL.

WE HAVE CHILDREN IN THE AREA AND WE HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLING THE CITY PRETTY ROUTINELY ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

AND, AGAIN, THE THREE ACTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU COULD APPROVE THE DEMOLITION. YOU COULD AMEND THE RESOLUTION OR YOU COULD DENY IT ON ITS ENTIRETY.

WE WILL PROVIDE 30 DAYS APPEAL. THIS IS HISTORIC, AND WE WENT TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, TO GET OPINION ON THE MATTER.

FOLLOWING THE APPEAL PERIOD, WE SEND A FINAL NOTICE TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES AND THEN, IF NEED BE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE DEMOLITION. THAT'S ALL.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE'S -- WAS THERE AN APPLICANT OR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR A MOTION

>> MADAM MAYOR >> YES, COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> I'M SURE THIS WAS DIFFICULT FOR THE HISTORIC COMMITTEE.

I LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND THIS IS WHAT ALL HOUSES LOOK LIKE BACK THEN BEFORE AIR CONDITIONING. IT WAS THE WAY WE LIVED IN FLORIDA AND IT'S JUST REALLY A SHAME THAT THIS HAS BEEN LET GO SO BAD. I AGREE IT'S TO THE POINT, WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH SALVAGING, BUT I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO SAY TEAR

IT DOWN. >> RIGHT.

THEY HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THAT.

>> THIS IS A WAY WE DID IT. THIS IS THE NEW STYLE, AIR CONDITIONING, AIR FLOWED UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE AND ABOVE IT AND ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. IT WAS THE COOLEST WAY YOU COULD STAY. NOT ANYMORE, BUT IT IS THE WAY YOU LIVED COMFORTABLY BACK THEN. SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION

TO APPROVE. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> ANY DISCUSSION. CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS >> YES, MA'AM.

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for Conditional Use with New Construction submitted by property owner, Yes Sandhill Exp, LLC, and Representative Lucido & Associates, to development & operate a Manufactured Home Park with 202 home sites at 3030 South US Highway 1 in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned Medium Density Residential (R-4). Parcel ID: 2422-344-0001-000-6.]

>> MAYOR HUD SOUTHERN? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE HAVE A QUASY JUDICIAL HEARING, WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER, YES, SAND HILL EXP, LLC, AND REFTIVE LUCIDO & ASSOCIATES TO DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATE A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK WITH 202 HOME SITES AT 3030 SOUTH U.S.

HIGHWAY 1 IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

>> HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET? >> THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET.

>> WOULD YOU CHECK FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING EXPARTY.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> I DON'T BELIEVE, NO MAM.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS >> NO, MAM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON? >> NO MA'AM.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH

AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH RJT? >> NO.

>> THANK YOU. PROCEED.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, IS A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, DESIGNER REVIEW, PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 3030, SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 31.

THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY, IS RM, MEDIUM RE RESID RESIDENTIAL.

AND THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, DESIGN REVIEW FOR OPERATION OF A MANUFACTURED HOME DEVELOPMENT, WITH 202 HOME SITES. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF WELFARE. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY A.

BOARD VOTED 7-0, WITH APPROVALS. THE SITE PLAN WILL CONSIST OF A SITE HOUSE. IN THE HOUSE, WILL BE A POOL, PATIO AND OUTDOOR KITCHEN, ACTIVE PLAY AREA AND HALF COURT BASKETBALL COURTS. AND ON SITE, THERE WILL BE TWO

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PARKING SPACES FOR EACH HOME SITE, ALONG WITH RECREATION PATH, SMALL DOCK ON TO THE POND, FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK, AND POTENTIAL ACCESS TO SAVANNAH TO THE EAST.

THIS IS AN IDEA. CURRENTLY, THERE'S A BUILDING THAT DOES STAND IN THE PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY, AND BUILDING WILL BE RETROFITTED WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN TONIGHT.

16 LETTERS WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS 15 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE ONLY LETTER, ST. LUCIE'S COUNTY, THEY WILL SEE A CONNECTION TO THE SAVANNAH, AND INTERNAL WALKING PATHS, THAT ARE CONTAINED.

THE PLANNING BOARD, 2020 MEETING, VOTED 7-0, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION, LANDSCAPE BOND WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF THE OCCUPANCY TO THE CLUBHOUSE, PURSUANT TO CITY CODE 1-316. POSSIBLE ACTIONS IS TO APPROVE THE CONDITION USE WITH NEW DESIGNER VIEW WITH NO CHANGES, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE COMMISSION AND PLANNING APPROVAL. AND YOU COULD APPROVE WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSAL.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MY QUESTION OF CONCERN, THIS ADDRESS, 3,000 BLOCK SECTION OF U.S. 1, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH PEDESTRIANS CROSSING AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT 200 HOMES HERE, WITH TWO PARKING, TWO CARS.

WHERE'S THE TRAFFIC LIGHT? THEY'VE BEEN -- ISN'T THAT

ADJACENT TO -- >> THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT

THE FRONT. >> AND WHERE IS THAT?

RAILROAD TRACK? >> CORNER OF U.S. 1 AND EDWARDS.

>> EDWARDS, IS THAT FAR? >> YEAH, THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY ON THE SITE BACK IN THE MID 2000S.

>> AND HAVE MORE HOME SITES. >> AND OKAY.

>> I'LL CALL THE AREA NOW. OKAY. BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO -- WE HAD A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS?

>> IT DIDN'T NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE IT WAS PROPOSING LESS HOME SITES THAN WAS ON. AND IT WAS LESS THAN WHAT THEY

PREVIOUSLY HAD. >> YOU DON'T FEEL ANY CONCERN WITH -- WHAT'S GOING TO SLOW UP THE TRAFFIC.

U.S. 1 IS CRAZY NOW AS IT IS. OKAY. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION OF CONCERN. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ALSO.

I LOOKED AT THE PLANS. WHAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION IS OR WHAT KIND OF CONNECTIVITY IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO CONNECT THE PEDESTRIANS TO U.S. HIGHWAY 1 OR EDWARDS ROAD, WHICH

EVER SO CHOOSE. >> SO CURRENTLY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE'S A SIDEWALK AND THE FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT TRAVERSE HIGHWAY 1. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CROSSWALKS THAT THE DOT HAS GOING ACROSS THE ROADWAY?

>> HOW ABOUT EAST AND WEST? I THINK THERE'S A CROSSWALK GOING EAST TO WEST ALONG -- CROSSING U.S. 1.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT? I DON'T RECALL SIDEWALKS INTERNALLY AT THE INTERSECTION.

I KNOW WE WERE GOING TO CONSTRUCT THEM.

YOU SAID TODAY, THEY WILL CONSTRUCT FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS.

ARE THEY GOING TO CONSTRUCT U.S. 1?

>> NOT IN THE CURRENT PLAN. YOU COULD PUT, APPROVAL ON THE

PROJECT. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT, AT THE INTERSECTION, IS THAT CONNECTING ROADWAY INTERSECTION ON THE DEVELOPERS SIDE GOING TO BE IMPROVED WITH AN OVERLAY, NEW ASPHALT, REPAINTING OF CROSSWALKS?

WHAT WILL HAPPEN THERE? >> THAT WAS NOT REQUESTED BY THE D.O.T. THE D.O.T. IS PART OF THE TRC, DID HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE

ANY COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT >> OKAY. I'LL WAIT FOR THE

APPLICANT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF

STAFF BEFORE THEY ARE EXCUSED. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

BRIAN OWEN, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHT. PROCEED.

>> I DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WE CAN RUN

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THROUGH, IF WE COULD. >> READY?

>> THANK YOU, IS THIS WORKING? >> I COULD HELP YOU OUT

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> IT'S WORKING.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT SITE AND ITS LOCATION AGAIN.

IT WAS A MANUFACTURED HOME COMMUNITY THAT SUSTAINED MAJOR DAMAGE IN THE HURRICANES OF THE EARLY TO MID-2000'S.

AND YES, COMMUNITIES PICKED IT UP.

THEY ALSO OWN SAND HILL SHORES DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF HERE.

THIS IS THEIR SISTER COMMUNITY. AND I HAVE TO SAY, THAT THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB DOWN THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU BEEN TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE NICE WITH A NICE CLUBHOUSE AND EVERYTHING. I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH IT.

AND THE BASIC SITE DATA, IT'S 202 UNITS.

I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY 207 UNITS, BASED ON WHAT WE CAN TELL BASED ON AERIAL IMAGERY. SO IN TERMS OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO REHAB THE EXISTING UTILITIES.

THE PROJECT ENGINEER, HENRY VALK, HAD A PREAPP, WITH FPWAY THIS AFTERNOON, ON WATER WASTE WATER, ELECTRIC GAS AND THAT WE ALSO HAVE LOCAL PLUMBING MEETS PLUMBING IS GOING TO DO A FULL INSPECTION OF THE UNDERGROUND, IF THEY DIDN'T START ALREADY.

WE'LL MAIL AND RESURFACE THE INTERNAL DRIVEWAYS.

THERE ARE MINIMUM 20 FOOT PAVEMENT.

THEY VARY A LITTLE BIT. THOSE WILL BE MILLED AND RESU RESURFACED.

WE WILL INSTALL BUILDING PADS AND ANCHORING SYSTEMS, TO CURRENT CODES FOR THE HOMES. WE ARE GOING TO INSTALL FOUR FOOT CONCRETE SIDEWALKS, ALONG AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

WE ARE BOUND A LITTLE BIT BY THE EXISTING WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER COULD SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT.

WE WERE ABLE TO CUT SOME OF THE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SO WE CAN PROVIDE A SIDEWALK AND CONNECT A LEVEL OF ACTIVITY.

WE ARE COLLECTING TO THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.

I THINK THERE'S A CROSSWALK THAT GOES ACROSS U.S. 1 AND EDS WARDS. WE HAVE A PREAPPLICATION MEETING WITH FDOT. THEY APPROVED US INITIALLY ON THE CONVEYANCE. THERE'S TWO PARCELS OF LAND, BETWEEN THE WESTBOUNDRY LINE. AND THE COUNTY OWNS THE SLITHER AND THE CITY OWNS A SLITHER. THE CITY CLERK DID A WONDERFUL JOB IN HELPING US PIECE TOGETHER THAT WHOLE STRING OF TITLE.

RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THEIR END.

SO WE'RE KIND OF BEHOLDEN TO OUTSIDE FORCES BUT WE DID GET CONDITION OF APPROVAL ON THAT. SO WE MAY BE COMING BACK TO STAFF AND HAVING SOME COORDINATION EFFORTS, BECAUSE D.O.T. WANTS THAT LAND. BECAUSE THEIR SIGNAL CABINETS, SWITCH CABINETS AND STUFF ARE IN THE PARCELS.

WE WILL ALSO BE INSTALLING STREET LIGHTING.

WE HAVE CAM CONSULTING THAT DOES A LOT OF WORK HERE IN THE CITY DOING OUR LIGHTING AND PHOTO METRICS.

WE ARE RENOVATING THE EXISTING AMENITY, ABOUT A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT EXISTING CLUBHOUSE. WE HAVE RENDERINGS ON THAT.

WE WILL DO A NEW POOL PATIO, ACTIVE PLAY AREA, SMALL OUTDOOR KITCHEN, JUST SOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY SOUTH OF US.

WE ARE FOCUSING A LOT OF OUR LANDSCAPE TREATMENT IN THAT AMENITY AREA, BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO U.S. 1.

WE WILL WANT TO PRESENT A NICE AESTHETIC APPEAL.

WE WILL PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROAD AND US.

WE ALSO, OUR BUFFERED PRETTY HEAVILY BY EXISTING VEGETATION ON THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. OUR EAST PROPERTY LINE IS THE SAVANNAH'S PRESERVE. THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, WE WILL BE AMENDING THE BUFFER. ONCE IT IS RESERVED, IT WILL LEAVE SOME HOLES. THEN AGAIN, IT'S OUR SISTER COMMUNITY TO THE SOUTH. WE DON'T WANT TO SHUT THE DOOR ON THEM EITHER. WE DID GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO TACKLE EARLY IN THE PROCESS WAS THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH THE BIT OF AN ANTIQUATED CODE BECAUSE THE CODE HAS NOT BEEN VISITED SINCE THE 70S AND EARLY 80S.

THE MATERIALS AND METHODS OF CONSTRUCTION HAS CHANGED A GREAT DEAL SINCE THEN. AND WE ARE FORTUNATE AND

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THANKFUL THAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ALSO SAW THAT.

SO WE GRANTED, THEY GRANTED US FOUR VARIANCES.

AGAIN, THE SITE PLANNED, AND ENTERING OFF U.S. 1 THROUGH AN EXISTING ACCESS, ACROSS ACCESS, AGREEMENT OF THE OWNER, I THINK IT'S A CINERCO GAS STATION TO THE SOUTH.

>> MR. JOHNSON. >> COULD I INTERJECT.

THAT'S A GOOD SLIDE. THAT'S ACROSS EASEMENT ONLY, NOT THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY COMING INTO THE PROPERTY?

>> RIGHT. YOU SEE THE DASH, IRREGULARLY SHAPED DASH, IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CINERCO GAS STATION.

YOU COULD SEE HOW MUCH DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF PAYMENT AND THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. THERE'S TWO SLITHERS THAT THE COUNTY AND CITY OWNS. YOU SEE THE EXISTING WET RETENTION POND AND CENTER THERE. WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT CLEANED UP, PUT A PATH AROUND IT. MAYBE SOME BENCHES.

WE HAVE PLANS FOR AN OBSERVATION DECK OR SOMETHING FOR IT TO BE AN AMENITY. WE ALSO, ARE WORKING, HAVE STARTED INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY TO CONNECT TO THE SAVANNAHS IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.

THAT APPEARS TO HAVE NOT BE AS SIMPLE AS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.

THEY LOOK AT IT WITH A WHOLE DIFFERENT LENS, WHICH I RESPECT.

WE ARE CONTINUING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.