[a. Email from Suzanne and Christopher Widing, Trustees, Ocean Village expressing their appreciation for the diligence of everyone involved in the planning process of the clubhouse project. ]

THE FOLLOWING LETTERS WILL BE KEPT ON FILE WITH THE CITY COMMISSION. WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM SUSAN CHRISTOPHER WIDING TRUSTEE OCEAN VILLAGE EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR THE DILIGENCE OF EVERYONE

[b. Email from Greg Dettmer thanking the following Building Department staff for their great support while remodeling a bathroom: Amaris Gil, Ed Smith, Frank Reming, Paul Julin, John Sellers, and Kim West.]

INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THE CLUBHOUSE PROJECT. AN E-MAIL FROM GREG DETTMER THANKING THE FOLLOWING BUILDING DEPARTMENT STAFF FOR THEIR GREAT SUPPORT WHILE REMODELLING A

[c. Email from Sarah Knull expressing her gratitude and appreciation to Detective Alexander Quiles for exceeding her expectations in tracking down and finding her daughter.]

BATHROOM. AMARIS GIL, ED SMITH, FRANK REMING, PAUL JULIN AND JOHN SELLERS.

E-MAIL FROM SARAH KNULL EXPRESSING HER GRATITUDE FOR

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

APPRECIATION DETECTIVE ALEXANDER FOR XOOETING HER EXPECTATIONS IN TRACKING DOWN AND FINDING HER

DAUGHTER. >> WE WILL MOVE TO APPROVAL

OF THE AGENDA. >> ANY DELETION OR APPROVAL

TO THE AGENDA. >> MOVE TO SET THE AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> YES. MAYOR.

SORRY. L.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL I. >> ANY OTHER PULLING?

>> I WILL SECOND AT THAT. I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON

AN ITEM. >> MOVE TO APPROVE THE

REMAINDER. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> MADAM MAYOR, ITEM M ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WHILE WE HAVE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK PEOPLE HERE.

I WAS VERY PLEASED TO READ THAT APPLICATION AND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE A TREMENDOUS

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OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY SERVE THE RESIDENT HERE BUT THE ENTIRE REGION WHEN IT COMES TO HUNGER AND WE ALL KNOW FROM THE PANDEMIC THAT WE ARE IN DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IMPACTED OUR COMMUNITY I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS A PART OF IT. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO RECOGNIZE THAT. THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING BY THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK TO BE REGIONAL FOOD BANK TO SERVICE NOT ONLY HERE IN FT. PIERCE BUT THROUGHOUT THE TREASURE COAST.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERSHIP.

WE CREATE MORE JOBS OUT THERE.

IT'S LARGE WAREHOUSE. WE WILL BE THERE.

I THINK IT HIT ALL OF THE ECONOMIC FACTOR AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SERVE IN THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND TREASURE COAST. JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE

[i. Approval to award Bid No. 2021-025 for Sale of Surplus Property on 606 North 14th Street (2404-813-0011-000-2) to the highest ranked respondent, JBM Properties.]

PARTNERSHIP EXACTLY. >> ALL RIGHTY.

ITEM 11-I IS APPROVAL TO AWARD BID NUMBER 2021-025 FOR SALE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY ON 606 NORTH 14TH STREET TO HIGHEST RANKED RESPONDENT. JBM PROPERTIES.

>> I SEE THE PLANNING BOARD DID NOT AGREE WITH THIS AND WANTED TO LEAVE THIS ON SURPLUS PROPERTY.

I WANTED TO BRING THAT ATTENTION OF OUR COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTOOD WHETHER WE WANTED TO -- IF WE JUST LEFT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PROVED IT. I WOULD HAVE GONE TO HIGHEST BIDDER. THAT'S TRUE.

>> AT LEAST WE NOW CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN OR NOT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO

THAT? >> IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO.

I JUST RAN DOWN THE STAIRS. MADAM MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 606 NORTH 14TH STREET UNIQUE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING WORD WITH UNIQUE FEEDBACK.

THEY ACCEPTED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ONCE WE MOVED ON TO SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THEY REALIZED THERE WAS KIND OF COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH. WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO MAJORITY OF THE BIDS. THEY TAKE ALL THE PROPERTY AND THEY CUT AND PASTE AND THEN THEY USE THE SAME BID RESPONSES FOR ALL OF THEM. THE STAFF DID EVALUATE THEM.

YOU WILL SEE STAFF'S RESPONSE.

STAFF'S EVALUATION WAS NOT EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH.

145 OUT OF 200. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING BOARD THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE GOING FOR SO CHEAP AT 1100. THEY MARKET VALUE WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 5,000 I BELIEVE.

AND THE COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH THEY DIDN'T LIKE.

THEY WERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE HOME AND THE TIMING OF THE PROPERTY.

STAFF HAS PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE BLACK AND WHITE.

WE HAVE EVALUATION CRITERIA. WE NEED TO REVIEW AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S WHY IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I HAVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT OR WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE

PRESENTATION? >> YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AS WELL. I WILL WAIT.

>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID PRESENTATION.

>> ONE SLIDE IS PRESENTATION.

TAKE YOUR TIME. GET YOUR BREATH.

>> 606 NORTH 14TH STREET. 7900 SQUARE FEET IT'S ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY. THE MARKET VALUE IS 5300.

THE HIGHEST RANKED RESPONDENT JBM OUT OF SAN DIEGO. THAT WAS ANOTHER COMMENT

FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. >> SO 145 OUT OF 200.

YOU WILL SEE THE OTHER SCARS ARE REALLY LOW.

WHENEVER YOU HAVE DIFFERENT HATS ON FOR CITY COMMISSION WE TALKED ABOUT OVERHAUL THING PROCESS AND COMING UP WITH MORE OF A STRATEGIC APPROACH.

THAT WILL HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE.

145 OUT OF 200. IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THEY CHECKED BOTH RESALE AND RENTALS. IT COULD BE EITHER OR.

THE PURCHASE PRICE IS PRETTY LOW AT 100.

THEIR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY HOME FOR 100,000 WHICH ALSO A LITTLE BIT QUESTIONABLE.

AND THE TIME LINE VERY AGGRESSIVE AT 6 MONTHS TO COMPLETION. BASED ON THE FIVE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EVALUATE THEY DID RANGE THE HIGHEST.

BUT AGAIN THE PLANNING BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION.

THEY HAD TO BACK OUT. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON

AND COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> LET'S GO BACK TO TIME LINE OF COMPLETION. I ASSUME THAT'S CLOSE WITH THE CITY AND FINAL NEGOTIATION BASED ON THE

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SITE PLAN SUBMISSION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA; RIGHT?

. >> WOULD ASSUME FROM BUILDING PERMIT TO COMPLETION.

THEY DIDN'T INDICATE THAT. IN OUR REVERSIONARY CLAUSE THAT WE INCLUDE IN THE DEED WE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER ONE THAT WE HAVE DONE WHICH IS 24 MONTHS TO POUR THE CONCRETE PAD. JUST TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REALISTIC FROM CLOSING.

BUT THIS IS PROBABLY -- THEY ARE PROBABLY ASSUMING SIX MONTHS FROM BUILDING PERMIT TO COMPLETION.

>> THEY CAME UP WITH THE SIX MONTHS.

THIS IS THERE PROPOSAL HERE. >> THERE MEANING JBM.

>> RIGHT. >> OUR REVISIONARY CALL BACK 24 MONTHS. THAT'S BASICALLY TWO YEARS.

>> YES. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD I GUESS AT THIS POINT AND KIND OF COMES DOWN TO WHOLE SITE PLAN SUBMISSION. WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LOT SIZE AND PLOT SIZE AND BASED ON THAT.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH STAFF.

PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT.

I THOUGHT WE WERE YOU KNOW WE HAVE CHALLENGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE 50-FOOT PLOTS.

WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT CREATIVE WAYS OF BRINGING IN NEW TYPE HOUSES. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO ME. ANY COMMENT ON THAT? OR FEEDBACK ON THAT? OR AM GOING DOWN THE RIGHT

TRACK WITH THAT? >> YOU ARE.

MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PLANNING APPROVAL PROCESS WITH SITE PLAN AND GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS. HOWEVER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE WE ARE MORE AMENABLE TO THOSE SMALL LOT SIZES.

IF THEY WERE PROPOSING LET'S SAY DUPLEX OR TRPLEX THEY HAVE TO MEET THE DIMENSION AND DEPTH AND WHAT NOT.

WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM.

THEY MAY HAVE TO CHANGE. THEY PUT TOGETHER A CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN. THAT MAY HAVE TO BE TWEAKED TO FIT THE LOT SIZE. WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THIS IN-FILL AREA.

>> MR. PERONA? >> WHAT I SEE HERE IS ALMOST THOSE THAT DID NOT THAT WERE NOT RANKED NUMBER ONE, TWO -- THAT WERE NOT RANKED NUMBER ONE.

BASICALLY DID A POOR JOB WITH THE NARRATIVE.

IS THAT WHAT WE ARE TYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

TO WE WANT THEM TO TELL A STORY THAT MAY BE UNREALISTIC. WE NEED TO HAVE FOLKS THAT LOOK AT WHAT OUR REAL MISSION IS TO TAKE SURPLUS PROPERTY OFF OF THE CITY ROLES AND PUT IT INTO THE HANDS OF FOLKS THAT CAN REALLY USE THE PROPERTY, TURN THEM INTO TAX PAYERS AND HOMEOWNERINGS.

THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO ACCOMPLISH.

I FEEL WE HAD SOMEWHAT OF DISCONNECT THERE.

SOME OF THESE BUILDERS AND THE FOLKS THAT PROPOSE MAY BE RIGHT ON THAT WHOLE PLAN. BUT JUST IN THEIR NARRATIVE,S DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT.

YOU GET ZEROS. IF YOU CAN WHAT I'M SAYING I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET WHAT WE THINK.

WHAT WE WANTED. WE ACTUALLY HAVE WE SET THE PARAMETER OUT THERE. STAFF DID THEIR JOB.

THEY STAY EXACTLY IN THEIR LANE.

THE BLINDERS ARE ON. THEY DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. BUT THE END PRODUCT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE I THINK.

I'M HAPPY THAT THE PLANNING BOARD TOOK THIS APART.

I'M HAPPY THAT THEY LOOKED AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

AND JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE OUT OF TOWN PROPOSERS I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT BECAUSE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS A LOT. I WANTED EVERYONE TO HAVE A CHANCE. I WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE EQUAL CHANCE AT IT. BE ABLE -- IF THEY NEED HELP TELLING THEIR STORY IN IF THEY NEED HELP DOING THEIR NARRATIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT QUALIFIES.

LET'S HELP THEM. SO WE CAN REALLY MAKE APPLES AND APPLE DECISIONS HERE AND NOT THOSE THAT ARE -- WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO DO THE JOB THAT WE TOLD THE STORY

BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. >> THAT'S TRUE.

>> COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE SCALE ON IT.

>> YES, SIR. >> MADAM, MAYOR, COMMISSIONER PERONA TO, THAT POINT NOT ONLY IS NARRATIVE LACKING IN LOT OF THEM. HERE'S SOMETHING; RIGHT THEY DIDN'T PUT A TIME LINE. THEY GET LITERALLY ZERO POINTS. WE ASK FOR EXAMPLE OF WORK OR POTENTIALLY, I COULD BE CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE STUCK. IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE THAT.

WE HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW. SOME I AM FAMILIAR AND KNOW THEY COULD PERFORM THE JOB. IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT WITH THE BID WE'RE STUCK. TO THAT POINT, WE BEEN

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BRAINSTORMING. ONLINE APPLICATION WE COULD MUTT ASTERISK AND SAY YOU CAN'T SUBMIT WITHOUT THAT PARTICULAR -- THAT WAY WE CAN ACCURATELY EVALUATE THEM. SINCE EVERYONE IS PICKING UP STING. WE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL.

SOME STILL DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT.

>> WE'RE KIND OF IN A TOUGH SPOT.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT. I THINK THAT STILL BRINGS ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN.

1,100 OFFER FOR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND WE GIVE THEM 24 MONTHS. IF THE TRIGGER IS PULLED ON THIS AND APPROVED THEY WILL MAKE A CHECK PAYABLE TO CITY OF 1,100 IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.

NOW THEY HAVE TWO YEARS; RIGHT? WE HAVE AN ASSESSED VALUE PROPERTY OVER THERE THAT WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT THE CARD O SKWOR CARD IS FOR THAT PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD. I AGREE WITH IT FROM THAT POINT. WE MAY NOT GET IT.

IN FAIRNESS OF IT IS THAT THEY THIS COMPANY IS SUBMITTED SOMETHING. THEY WANT TO BUILD 100,000 PROMPT. ITS UNDER TAX ROLES.

MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT PICTURE IS VERY DISTURBING.

IT'S A BLIGHTED PIECE OF PROPERTY BASED ON THAT PICTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN TAKEN.

IT'S PROBABLY OVERGROWN. IN THE PICTURE I SAW PHONE BOOTH THAT USED TO SIT OUT FRONT.

WHICH GOES WAY BACK. AND SO YOU KNOW THAT IS MORE DISTURBING. I HOPE IT'S NOT THERE.

THAT'S -- THIS IS JUST TOUGH.

AM I OKAY IN THE PROCESS IF WE APPROVE TONIGHT THEY PAY 1,100 AND THEY OWN THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND WE WAIT TWO YEARS. .

WE CAN GO BY THAT SIX MONTHS TIME LINE.

THEY OFFERED SIX MONTHS. IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THEM TO SIX MONTH TIME LINE. WE CAN.

. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC. SITE PLAN SUBMISSION WON'T

COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS. >> I WANT TO BE AWARE OF THAT. I WAS CONCERNED.

AND THE TIME LINE AND I SAW THE COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. AND YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE I

AM AT. >> DO YOU ANYTHING TO SAY ON

THIS SUBJECT MATTER? >> NO.

NOTHING TO ADD. THE COMMISSIONER COVERED IT.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE WE GET TO DECIDE WITH AN OFFER IN FRONT OF US. WE'RE THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WHICH APPROVE $5,000 PER LOT.

NOT SAYING THIS SHOULDN'T BE VALUED AT THAT.

I'M SAYING THERE'S COMPARABLE RIGHT THERE.

>> I WAS STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD QUITE A FEW OF THEM HAD ISSUES WITH THIS ONE.

AND THOSE I FELT THEIR ISSUE HAD MERIT AND WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT IT. ALTERNATIVE WAS IF WE AGREED WITH THEM IT WOULD JUST STAY SURPLUS PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY EVEN THIS HOW WOULD SOMEONE GO ABOUT MAKING BEING PART OF THIS PROCESS? DO WE --

>> WE PUT BACK WITH HUNDREDS OF SURPLUS PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE. WHAT WE TRY TO DO NOW LOOK AT THEM AND IN TERMS OF LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD CLUSTERS AND REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND PUT A VISION BEFORE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUTTING IN PROPOSAL.

JUST BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRIKE ABOUT IT.

IF THIS WERE TO GO BACK INTO SURPLUS.

IT WOULD BE PUT WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY AND PUT INTO THAT KIND OF STRATEGIC PLAN. IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN SURPLUS PROBLEM THEY CAN SUBSCRIBE TO THE WEB SITE AND RECEIVE E-MAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES.

YOU CAN CONTACT ME AND I CAN STAY IN TOUCH WITH THEM AS

WELL. >> WE PUT SIGNS UP IS.

>> WE MIGHT THE PLANNING BOARD THE COMMISSION MIGHT BE INTERESTED IF SOMEONE OFFERED SOME MORE REALISTIC

AMOUNT OF MONEY PERHAPS. >> I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? APPROVE THIS AS THE RECOMMENDED OR DO YOU WANT TO NOT APPROVE IT?

>> I LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT MAYBE THE NEW APPLICATION PROCESS THAT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO SUBMIT IT WITHOUT ADDING THESE ELEMENTS IN THERE.

REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

WHEN I TALKED ABOUTNARITY. WASN'T ABOUT THE NARRATIVE.

YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE TIME LINE AND THE ECONOMIC

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IMPACT AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T ACCEPT ANY OF THEM AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND COME UP WITH NEW PROPOSAL. ADD THIS TO LIST OF SURPLUS PROPERTIES AND MAYBE FIND A BETTER WAY TO GROUP THEM IN THE NEXT MIX. WITH AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WILL LEAD THOSE PROPOSERS INTO DOING THEIR HOMEWORK? AND AT LEAST GIVING US SOMETHING THAT WE -- THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION

ON. >> I THINK I HEAR A MOTION?

>> MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT ACCEPT ANY OF THE

PROPOSALS ON THIS ISSUE. >> AND KEEP IT SURPLUS?

>> KEEP IT SURPLUS. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND WITH COMMENT. JUST TALKING ABOUT ITEM I.

>> I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT SAME CONSENT AGENDA LITERALLY PROBABLY ACROSS THE STREET WE DID APPROVE TONIGHT.

SOME PROMS THAT WERE FOR SALE.

AND ON THE SURPLUS LIST. AND IT SEEMED AND APPEARS THAT THE PRESENTER HAD A CLEARER VISION OF WHAT THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT THERE. AND THAT WENT THROUGH AND YOU KNOW WOULD ENCOURAGE, OF COURSE, THAT THIS SAME APPLICANT IS ALLOWED TO REAPPLY OBVIOUSLY.

THEY PUT IT BACK OUT FORBID. MAYBE WITH CLARITY.

IT'S NOT GOING AWAY ENTIRELY.

IT WILL GO BACK OUT. IF THEY LISTEN AND HEAR THE COMMENTS THEY WILL KNOW TO GO BACK AND BRUSH UP THE APPLICATION MORE AND HELP WITH US THE CLEARER VISION OF THAT. BUT ALSO TO RECOGNIZE WE'VE HAD TWO OTHER SURPLUS PROPERTIES.

IT'S NOT OUT OF THE OR MARE. >> ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY

COMMISSIONER? >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

DON'T RUN BACK UP NOW. ITEM 11-L APPROVE LETTER OF

[l. Approve letter of appreciation to Dr. Sara Matthews for the many years of services provided to the City and its Animal Control program.]

APPRECIATION TO SARAH MATTHEWS FOR THE MANY YEARS OF SERVICES PROVIDING TO THE CITY AND ANIMAL CONTROL

PROGRAM. >> I KNOW THAT DR. SARAH WE CALL HER PROVIDED MANY SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR 19 YEARS. YES, SHE WAS VENDOR.

BUT SHE WAS OFF THE CLOCK ON A LOT OF THINGS.

ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE -- THOSE PET OWNERS THAT COULDN'T AFFORD TO PAY A LOT OF THE SERVICE THAT WENT FORWARD.

SHE'S ONE OF THE HERO THAT HELPED US WITH CAT PROGRAMS. COMMUNITY CAT PROGRAMS AND HELPED US ON COURSE TO BECOME THAT TYPE OF A COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THOSE SERVICES. SHE IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY NOW. SHE WILL BE MISSED.

HER EFFORTS WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE REALLY FOUND A LOT OF GREAT THINGS FROM THAT AND A LOT OF

CITIZENS GOT SERVICES. >> MADE US LOOK GOOD.

>> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> GOOD JOB WITH THE LETTER, BY THE WAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL CAN ROLL, PLEASE.

I DID MAKE A CORRECTION TO LETTER TO INCLUDE THE FRISKY FELINES PROGRAM WHICH WEED A OMITTED.

>> THANK YOU. AND HAPPY HOUNDS.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-027 - Text Amendment to Chapter 125-321: Coastal Construction Control Line (CCCL) to remove the requirement for a Conditional Use approval for structures seaward of the CCCL. SECOND READING]

>> GOT THEM ALL. NEXT WE HAVE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING. LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON ORDINANCE 21-027 ORDINANCE AMENDMENTING THE CODE OFS ORNANCE OF FT. PIERCE FLOOR CHAPTER 125 ARTICLE 7 SECTION 125-321 ELIMINATING THAT SECTION FROM CHAPTER 125 ZONING PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE FOR ORDINANCE OR GCONFLICT. IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS A SECOND READING. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 21-028 creating Chapter 12, Section12-7 of the Code of Ordinances establishing proof of residency requirements for candidates seeking the office of commissioner and/or mayor-commissioner. SECOND READING]

21-02 # ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDMENTING CHAPTER 12 OF CODE OFFONS 12 ELECTION OF MAYOR STND PROVIDING FOR THE FILING PROOF OF REST DEN CRIMINAL

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FOR CANDIDATES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE OR PART THEREOF IN CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DAY THIS IS SECOND READING.

>> ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME

FORWARD? >> MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

21-0027 QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF RACQUET COURT PROPOSED CONTROL LINE IS MOOT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PART OF IT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM

[d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of applications for Site Plan (Development Review and Design Review) submitted by Property Owner, Ocean Village POA, Inc., and Representative, Schulke, Bittle & Stoddard, LLC c/o Jodah B. Bittle, P.E., to construct a 6,426 square foot clubhouse, with racquet courts, at 2400 South Ocean Drive. The property is zoned Hutchinson Island Medium Density Residential Zone (R-4A). Parcel ID: 2507-321-0001-000-5.]

OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO THE NEXT QUASI-JUDICIAL HERRING WHICH IS FOR RAE VIEW AND APPROVAL OF APPLICATIONS FOR SILENT PLAN DEVELOP REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER OCEAN VILLAGE PO AND REPRESENTATIVE SCHULKE, BITTLE AND STODDARD CONSTRUCT A 6,426 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE WITH RACQUET

COURT. >> MADAM ATTORNEY YOU HAVE

NO OBJECTION? >> I WOULD TAKE -- YOU ARE NOW GOING TO READ THE RULES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING AND SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OTHER HEARING.

THESE RULES APPLY. PLEASE PROCEED.

>> >> I HAVE NO OBJECTION.

AS TO RULE THEY ARE AS FOLLOWS.

THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE WHEN ACTING AS LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAW AND ESTABLISH POLICIES.

THE COMMISSION APPLIES THOSE LAW AND POLICY AND HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL STANDARDS.

QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING ARE LESS FORMAL MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEE

MEETING. >> THEREFORE COMMISSIONER IT'S MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS.

THIS WHY CAN COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION. THE CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING. IF DOCUMENT ARE TO BE GIVEN TO CITY CLERK, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS WHICH ARE EITHER THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CLERK HAVE THE

ADVERTISING BEEN MET? >> ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS

FOR THIS ITEM HAVE BEEN MET. >> ASK YOU ASK ABOUT COMMUNICATION. HAVE YOU HAD EX-PARTE

COMMUNICATION. >> JOHNSON?

>> YES, I HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. THE SAME.

E-MAILS. .

>> YES, MA'AM I HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS.

>> THANK YOU. NOW IT IS TIME TO SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANYONE THAT WILL SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

>> DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM TO TELL, TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT

THE TRUTH? >> I DO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WHEN YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

AND LET US KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN.

IT'S NOW TIME FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR OCEAN VILLAGE WHICH INVOLVED BOTH DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW.

IT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CLUBHOUSE.

IT'S ACTUAL REMOVAL OF EXISTING REDEVELOPMENT OF THE BUILDING OF A NEW CLUBHOUSE WHICH IS ALMOST DOUBLE THE SIZE WITH NEW RACQUET COURTS AND COURT COVERING ASSOCIATIONED WITH THAT.

OCEAN VILLAGE IS 40 ACRES. IT'S ONE OF OUR GATE COMMUNITIES OCEANFRONT COMMUNITIES THAT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH END OF SOUTH ISLAND CONSIST VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES. AND A VARIETY OF AMENITIES FOR ITS RESIDENT. FUTURE LANCE USE MAP DESIGNATION HUTCHINSON ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WITH COMPATIBLE ZONING DESIGNATION OF MEDIUM DENNIEST RESIDENTIAL OR 4A IN HUTCHINSON ISLAND.

>> I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FAINT.

BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSE IS AND WHERE THE NEW ONE WILL BE, RIGHT NOW THIS -- THE AREA IS GENERALLY WHERE THE

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CLUBHOUSE THE NEW ONE WILL GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE NORTH AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT WILL BE PROVIDED. AND IT IS SHOWN RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS LOCATION. THERE'S EXISTING TENNIS COURTS HERE. ADDITIONAL AREA FOR PRAY IS PROPOSED. CLUBHOUSE ADDITIONAL PARKING, WHAT IS REQUIRED BASED ON CLUBHOUSE AND USES IS WHAT THEY ARE PROVIDING. THIS PHASED PROJECT.

BUT THE APPROVAL IS FOR BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE 2.

SO PHASE 2 IS THE RACQUET COURTS.

THAT ARE LOCATED HERE. THE BUILDING ELEVATION ARE SHOWN HERE FOR BOTH THE NORTHEAST, SOUTH AND WEST.

THE VERY TOP OF THE BUILDING WHICH WE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED PART OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT. BUT IT DOES REMAIN WITHIN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT. THAT'S MORE OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. THE MIDPOINT OF BUILDING HEIGHT 27 FEET. IT IS A SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE. BEFORE YOU ON THIS SLIDE OR THE BUILDING RENDERING, THAT SHOWS THAT THE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE.

INTERNALLY THESE ARE THE BUILDING FLOOR PLANS THAT SHOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING FOR THE CLUBHOUSE. STAFF AND PLANNING BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN WHICH INVOLVES AGAIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW.

SUBSEQUENTLY WE DID GO BEFORE YOU ALL ON AUGUST 16TH AND THERE WAS SOME INCONSISTENCY WITH THE ADVERTISING. THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEFORE YOU AGAIN THIS EVENING. THE ACTION ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION IS TO APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN.

TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WITH CHANGES AND TO DISAPPROVE THE SITE PLAN. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS IS GOING. MY REFERENCE IS NOT THE INSIDE STREETS. IT'S BLUE HURON.

A1A AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT -- THERE'S SWIMMING POOLS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND IT'S A PRIVATE CLUB. >> I ACTUALLY RUN THROUGH THERE EVER SO OFTEN WHEN I GET FASTER THAN THE GUARDS.

THESE ARE THE TENNIS COURTS. PERHAPS THE APPLICANT CAN EXPLAIN WHERE IT IS IN THIS AREA.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S IN THIS AREA.

>> SIT THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT OFF OF BLUE HERRON, THEN?

>> YES. >> THE ONE COMING IN THE GATE. 82 NO.

>> WELL, WE HAVE TO FIND OUT.

BECAUSE WE TRIED TO GET OUT THERE.

>> PART OF E-MAIL WE RECEIVED ARE RELATIVE TO WHERE DIFFERENT HOUSING UNITS ARE AND ALL THE OTHER TYPE OF THINGS. I'M TRYING TO GET A BASIS OF WHERE THIS STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO.

>> IT'S INTERESTING. THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THAT THERE ARE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT -- HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WITHIN THERE AND THEN THERE'S MASTER.

EACH HAS THEIR OWN -- IT'S INTERESTING.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I THINK HE CAN SPEAK ON

BEHALF OF THE DETAILS. >> RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE ON THE TOP. JK.

>> YES. >> TENNIS COURTS.

SEE THE POND BELOW J. THAT ENTIRE AREA RIGHT

THERE. >> IT'S RIGHT IN HERE.

>> OKAY. EXISTING CLUBHOUSE IN THERE NOW. RIGHT IN THE JK AREA.

AND TENNIS COURTS. >> I KNOW WHERE IT IS.

>> IT'S 3,000. >> J AND K.

GOT IT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> PARDON? >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HAVE WE DON'T ASK YOU QUESTIONS AFTER. THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE TO ASK. SOME OF THE E-MAIL TALKED ABOUT FLOODING. SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED? WHO EVALUATES THE WATER RETENTION AND THE FLOODING

WHOLE POSSIBILITIES. >> MADAM MAYOR, AS THIS PRIVATE COMMUNITY WITH PRIVATE ROADS, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SPEARHEADED BY THE POA.

AND I BELIEVE OUR APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

HE'S A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT.

>> ANOTHER E-MAIL TALKED ABOUT THE COURT INTERRUPTING THEIR VIEW. IN THE PAST WHAT WE DONE IS WE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE ON JEBBINGED TO SOMETHING BEING BUILD BECAUSE IT OBSTRUCTED THEIR VIEW AND AS AS AALLED BOY BE IF SOMEONE OBSTRUCTED MY VIEW, IF SOMEONE WANT TO BUILD NEXT TO ME.

IS I UNDERSTAND THAT FEELING BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING

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THAT WE ARE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

TERMS OF BUILDING AROUND YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT FOR CLARIFICATION.

>> WE DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

IT'S HEALTH SAFETY; WELFARE. IMMEDIATE THE CODE ORDINANCE RELATED TO SET BACK AND HEIGHTS.

>> RIGHT. >> LISTENED ALSO THERE'S SOME E-MAILS THAT I HAD TALKED ABOUT INTERNAL HOA OR POA. DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.

THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION EITHER.

>> CORRECT. >> THAT'S A CIVIL MATTER.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE INVOLVED WITH.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THE AIR ON THOSE.

SO I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT NOW.

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND WHETHER

YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. >> 1717 INDIAN RIVER BOULEVARD. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

JUST TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

THE AREA IN QUESTION IS J AND K.

THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE RIGHT NOW WITH TWO DIFFERENT TENNIS COURT. WE'RE LOOKING TO TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSE. KEEP ONE OF THE COURTS AND BUILD TWO NEW COURTS JUST TO THE NORTH.

>> TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING ISSUE I'VE GIVEN PROPOSE ALTO THE ASSOCIATE TO ANALYZE LAKES AND FLOODING IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF THE FLOODING TO THE SOUTH. BASICALLY IN THE O AREA.

IT'S NOT IN THIS AREA. AND WE ARE DESIGNING THIS BUILDING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SO LIT NOT BE FLOODED. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FLOODING IN THIS J AND K AREA.

IF THEY HIRE ME, I WILL BE RESUBMITTING.

THE VIEW I WOULD ASSUME TO THE WEST OF K.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF BUILDING.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE MULTISTORY BUILDING.

WE'RE ONLY A SINGLE STORY CLUBHOUSE.

WE'RE NOT TWO OR THREE STORY CLUBHOUSE.

AND THEN THE HOA. YOU KNOW, I'M ONLY HIRED BY THE HOA BOARD. YOU KNOW I'M SURE THERE'S RESIDENT. THIS LARGE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE ARCHITECTS DID A GREAT JOB.

I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>> JUST GLAD TO BE BACK HERE ALSO.

>> WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. >> COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU BROUGHT UP AND TALKED ABILITY FLOODING A LITTLE BIT. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PREFERSIOUS VERSES P IMPERVIOUS.

>> WE'RE INCREASING. MAJORITY OF THE IS A CLAYCOURT. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING CLAY. THEY MAY DO ASPHALT.

YOU SAY INCREASING AS IN WHICH ONE.

>> IT DEPENDS IF YOU ARE CHARACTERIZING IT CLAY TENNIS COURT. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY

ADDITIONAL AREA. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> WE ALL RECEIVED THE SAME E-MAILS.

I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE THINGS THAT I HAD NO JURISDICTION OVER AND THE HOA AND ALL OF THAT.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS THE CANOPY FOR THE RACQUET COURTS. CAN YOU TALK.

THAT'S KIND OF -- WHAT WAS IT EASTWARD OF THE COASTAL LINE THERE. CCL A LITTLE BIT?

WAS IT? >> THERE'S ONE EAST AND ONE

WEST. >> THE ONE ON THE CONDITION WE TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE COURT GOING OVER HERE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT CONSTRUCTION HOW HIGH IS IT.

I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING BY 13 BY 22.

IT'S LITERALLY A FOUR POST. IT'S NOT EXPANSIVE COVER ROOF AREA. THAT'S JUST A PROVIDE SHADE

FOR THE TENNIS PLAYERS. >> OKAY.

I SHOULD HAVE LEFT IT ON THE EAST AND KEPT THE WEST ONE.

I THINK ORDINANCE RESOLVES THAT.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE HEIGHT BEING MORE THAN 12 FEET.

IF YOU HAVE SIX FOOT COVER OR 7-FOOT COVER.

3-4 FEET HIGH. >> IT COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL.

>> ASK WE SHOW THAT ON THE SITE PLAN?

>> RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ONE ON THE OTHER

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SIDE. >> THEN WE ADD ANOTHER ONE BY THE EXISTING COURT. THERE USED TO BE TWO COURTS WITH THE CLUBHOUSE IS. WE ADD ONE TO SOUTH OF THAT.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT SHADE CANOPY THING.

>> FOUR HOLES I ASSUME. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> IN TAKING A LOOK AT MODELS THAT WERE DRAWN, THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ARCHITECTURAL EM-BELLISHMENT.

THAT'S EXTRA 7 FEET OF STRUCTURE.

>> AS CIVIL ENGINEER. I ONLY DO HORIZONTAL.

WE'LL GET THE NEXT GUY. >> THANK YOU.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION. >> THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT HEIGHT. IN THE HORIZONTAL, THE DO YOU KNOW LINE IS HOW HIGH IN RELATION TO EXISTING GRADE?

>> ROUGHLY? >> IS IT HIGHER OR LOW OER?

>> I ASSUME 8 FEET HIGHER AT LEAST.

LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE. I THINK IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER. THE DUNE IS 8 FEET.

>> IT MAY EVEN BE MORE. >> I CANNOT SEE THE OCEAN STANDING THERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? WE HAVE PERHAPS OTHER PART OF YOUR TEAM THAT MIGHT COME UP?

>> IF YOU NEED. DON'T GO AWAY.

WE MAY BRING YOU BACK. >> I'M THE ARCHITECT.

807 FLAMINGO AVENUE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT THE HIGHEST ROOF FORM.

THAT FUNCTIONAL ELEMENT OF THE DESIGN.

THAT'S PROBABLY OBJECTION FOR THE VIEWS.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RENDERING.

IT'S NOT A BIG FOOTPRINT. IT'S LIKE TEN BY 15.

IF IT HAS FUNCTIONAL USE TO PLAN.

PLUS IT DOES FIT THEME INSIDE OCEAN VILLAGE.

WHAT IS THE FOOTPRINT AND HOW WILL THAT BE IMPACTED?

>> I THINK YOU EXPLAINED THT.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?

>> WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME? >> WOOD.

>> HAVE WE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY?

>> >> WELCOME.

MY NAME THE EILEEN EMERY. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OCEAN VILLAGE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION.

I HAVE BEEN RESIDENT OF -- >> HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?

>> YES, I HAVE. >> BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 55 YEARS FULL TIME FOR 30 YEARS.

I SERVED ON THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY FOR TEN YEARS.

AND WAS PRESIDENT DURING THE HURRICANES OF FRANCES AND JEANNE. WHICH WAS EXCITING TIME.

I GIVE YOU THAT BACKGROUND. BECAUSE IN ANY ASSOCIATION IT'S POSSIBLE TO PLEASE EVERYBODY.

IN THE PAST WHEN WE MENTION THE DUNE EARLIER.

WHEN FIRST DISCUSSION OF BUILDING THE DUNE PEOPLE WERE OPPOSED TO IT. IT BLOCKED THEIR VIEW.

THEY COULDN'T SEE THE OCEAN ANYMORE.

THEY HAD TO GO UPSTAIRS TO GET TO THE BEACH.

THIS IN SPITE OF 62 CARS BEING DESTROYED IN NOVEMBER.

THE DUNE WAS BUILT BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT THING TO DO TO PROTECT THE AREA. THE NEXT OF BIG CONCERN THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOUTH POINT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE CROWDED ALREADY. THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE TENNIS COURTS. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THE GOLF COURSE. THIS TERRIBLE.

LIT RUIN OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

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AS A RESULT THE PROMPT VALUES WENT UP.

THERE'S TWO WEEKEND, CHRISTMAS AND EASTER THAT THE PLACE IS PRETTY CROWDED. BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE'RE QUITE HAPPY OVER THERE. THERE'S AN ISSUE REGARDING WATER RETENTION AND FLOODING.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE IF FT. PIERCE.

IF THERE'S A HIGH TIDE AND WE GET A LOT RAIN IN SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. IT ACCUMULATES.

THERE'S BEEN WATER IN UNIT IN OCEAN VILLAGE.

EVEN THROUGH THE HURRICANE. NO WATER IN THE UNIT THERE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME STUDIES TO SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE SOME OF ON THE DRAINAGE.

AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST ROUTINE THINGS GOING ON.

THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF IS THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST 11 YEARS WE HAVE 86.8% TURNOVER. THERE'S NOT MANY THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. THE LAST FIVE YEAR THE TURN OVER 49.4%. IT'S CHANGED 623 UNIT TO SALES. OUR NEW OWNERS ARE LIKE I WAS WHEN I WAS IN OWNER. WILY UP NORTH.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY. THEY DON'T WANT INCREASE OR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR CLUBHOUSE.

THE CLUBHOUSE THAT'S IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW IS 55 YEARS OLD. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO REPAIR IT AT THIS TIME. WE NEED NEW UP-TO-DATE CLUBHOUSE THAT WILL SERVE THE NEEDS ALL OF OUR OUR

OWNERS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE COME

FORWARD. >> SEEING NO ONE YOU HAVE ANY LAST WORDS YOU WANT TO SAY TO THE COMMISSION?

>> WE'RE GOOD? >> THANK YOU.

>> CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND NOW THE COMMISSION IS DISCUSSING.

OUR ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.

WE'RE HELD TO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE I'VE HEARD WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT OCEAN VILLAGE WANTS AND NEEDS.

I THEREFORE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-031 amending the Comprehensive Plan to incorporate a Property Rights Element as required by Florida Statutes. FIRST READING]

CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE BACK TO LEGISLATIVE. 21-031 ORDINANCE AMENDMENTING THE CITY OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY CREATING A PROPERTY RIGHT ELEMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE UPDATED STAYEDTORY REQUIREMENT MAINTAIN INTERNAL CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> HELLO. WELCOME.

PLEASE PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING.

THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. SPECIFICALLY TEXT AMENDMENT.

IT WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPERTY RIGHT ELEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN MANDATED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

>> CAN YOU PULL -- I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

VERY RARELY PEOPLE TELL ME THAT.

SB-59. WHICH WAS PASSED DURING THE 2021 SESSION. IT REQUIRES THAT ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENT ADOPT AND INCLUDE PROPERTY RIGHT ELEMENTS.

IT EFFECTS ANY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

AFTER JULY 21ST OF 2021. THIS PROPOSED TEXT THAT I INTRODUCE TONIGHT IS COPIED VERBATIM.

IT MEANS THE MINIMUM LANGUAGE REQUIREMENTS.

THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMUNITY HAS NO OBJECTION.

THIS LANGUAGE RAE CHOIRMENT REFLECTS THE LANGUAGE IN THE STATE STATUTE. NOW LATER ON WE CAN INCORPORATE MORE LANGUAGE THAT DEFINES AND CONSIDERS EXPANDING ON THOSE CONSIDERATION WHICH YOU WILL SEE SHORTLY. BUT THIS MEETS AND THE LANGUAGE THAT THE DEO HAS PRESENTED TO MUNICIPALITIES.

TODAY NO TEXT AMENDMENT. NO FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT

[01:05:05]

CAN MOVE FORWARD UNTIL THIS THE TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE AND ACCEPTED. I ASSURE THAT YOU EXAMINATION OF FUTURE PROPERTY RIGHT ELEMENT WILL TAKE PLACE WHEN WE DO THE NEXT UPDATE.

WHAT IS THAT LANGUAGE? >> FOUR COMPONENTS HERE LISTED IN STATE STATUTE. THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNER TO PHYSICALLY PROCESS CONTROL INTEREST IN THEIR PROPERTY. THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNER TO USE MAINTAIN AND DEVELOP AND IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY.

THE RIGHT OF THE PROPERTY OPENER TO PRIVACY AND EXCLUDE OTHER AND THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNER TO DISPOSE OF HER OR HER PROPERTY. ALL THE FOUR ARE CONSIDERATION. THE STATE HAS NOT DIG DICTATED HOW THE CONSIDERATION WOULD TAKE PLACE. EACH DEPARTMENT IS INCUMBENT TO INCORPORATE. THIS MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT EACH MUNICIPALITY MUST PASS IN ORDER TO HAVE FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

AT AUGUST 23RD, THE LPA VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

YOU HAVE THREE VOAPPROVE, APPROVE WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVE. THIS CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> I WILL GO BACK TO THE

TEXT FOR YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> JUST ONE QUICK ONE. THE WAY IT GETS IMPLEMENTED IS THE GOAL OBJECTIVE POLICY VERSION.

NOT THIS VERSION. >> I JUST GAVE THEM TO YOU.

>> YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FULL. >> WE DO.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

YOU MENTIONED IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE AGAIN.

>> SHALL CONSIDER. >> YES, SIR.

IT'S THE LANGUAGE SHALL CONSIDER.

THAT'S IT. >> FOR EACH ONE OF THESE

ELEMENTS. >> YES, SIR.

>> I HEARD PRESENTATION ON THIS STATE STATE STATUTE.

IN THE PERSON WHO MADE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS PERFECT JOB.

>> WE'RE AHEAD OF THE CURVE. >> I WAS PLEASED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE. I PROMISED THIS COMMISSION A WHILE AGO THAT WE WOULD BE ALL UP-TO-DATE IN MAKING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND AS SOON AS THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL INTO LAW. THIS WAS IMMEDIATELY PUT ON

TO OUR DOCKET. >> WE APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> IS THERE A MOTION? OR DISCUSSION?

>> I THINK WE NEED PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I THINK WE NEED A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THIS THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-032 establishing Mayor and Commission compensation by ordinance, and clarifying the method of changing compensation in the future. FIRST READING]

21-032 ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDMENTING CHAPTER ARTICLE II DIVISION ONE SECTION 2-19 COMPENSATION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE ESTABLISHING THE COMPENSATION DUE TO MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS AND CLARIFYING THE METHOD OF CHANGING COMPENSATION PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY REPEALING ALL OUTNANCE OF CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I DID NOT MAKE A

PRESENTATION. >> REFLECTS WHAT WE TALKED

ABOUT. >> SETTING YOU KNOW ESTABLISHING YOUR COMPENSATION AT THE RATE YOU'RE CURRENT RATE OF PAY NOW AND JUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT CHANGES TO THAT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC ORDINANCE FOR

THIS SECTION. >> IT SEEMS TO ME WE TOOK QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND TALKED ABOUT THAT.

>> WE DID. THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE PLEASE COME

FORWARD. >> SEEING NO ONE; I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE; SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[h. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-033 amending Chapter 2, Sec. 2-49 to modify the order of business of City Commission Meetings and amending Sec. 2-48 to address remote participation by City Commissioners at their meetings. FIRST READING]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-033.

CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE FLORIDA.

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>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> NO. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AHEAD OF CONVERSATION EARLIER WITH ALL THREE OF THE CHARTER OFFICERS JUST TO MAKE SURE I JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION WHAT WE ARE DOING WE'RE MAKING AN ABSOLUTE THAT YOU CANNOT PARTICIPATE REMOTELY.

IT'S ABSOLUTE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL

UNDERSTAND THAT. >> MADAM MAYOR I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT IN HEADS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SCENARIO THIS MAY NOT WORK OUT.

WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU OPEN UP A BACK DOOR TO THIS THING WHICH CREATES A PROBLEM IN ITS SELF.

AND IT WOULD BE ALMOST AS IF YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN MAKE THIS RULE A REGULATION. BECAUSE IT WON'T STAND UP TOIC IN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE ABSOLUTE AND THAT THE GOVERNOR CAN THROUGH EMERGENCY ORDER CAN CHANGE THAT.

AND IF THIS DOESN'T WORK AND GETS IN OUR WAY AS WE GO -- THERE'S A PROCESS FOR US TO CHANGE IT.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTOOD IT'S

ABSOLUTE. >> I'M GOOD WITH ABSOLUTES.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD?

>> SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[i. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-034 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to a property at or near 1701 Woodward Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. FIRST READING]

21-034.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> PLEASE PROCEED.

GOOD EVENING. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED 1701 WOODWARD DRIVE. CURRENT ST. LUCIE COUNTY REGULAR RESIDENTIAL URBAN. IT WILL BE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. CURRENTLY HAS ST. LUCIE COUNTY ZONING OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.

ONCE ANNEXED IT WOULD SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSILITY RESIDENTIAL. AS PROPOSED THE ANNEXATION MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

PLAN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING BOARD AFTER MEETING ON JULY 14TH, 2021 VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. POSSIBLE ACTION BY THE THE CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE PROPOSED ANNEXATION.

AND PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> THIS THE A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> IT'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE

[a. Resolution No. 21-R50 determining that the structure located at 513 N 18th Street is unsafe, has been condemned in accordance with the International Property Maintenance Code as adopted by the City Commission and should be demolished. A hearing to determine this matter is scheduled before the City Commission on October 4, 2021.]

>> THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM RESOLUTION 21-R-50.

ALL PARTY OF POTENTIAL ACTION BY THE CITY OF THE FT. PIERCE FOR FAILURE TO ACT.

AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 4TH 2021 AT 6:00 P.M. AND THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS.

AND PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO ALL PARTIES.

>> OKAY THIS IS OUR STANDARD GETTING SOME SOMETHING ON ITS WAY TO BEING EVALUATED. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO SET THE HEARING DATE OF OCTOBER 4TH.

2021. >>> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Submittal of applications to serve on the Fort Pierce Utilities Authority Board as an at-large member.]

NEXT WE HAVE SUBMITTAL OF AN POLITICIAN TO SERVE ON THE

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FT. PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY BOARD AS AN AT-LARGE MEMBER. THESE ARE ALL ATTACHED TO AGENDA. THIS WILL COME BACK TALENT

NEXT MEETING. >> IT'S STILL POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT APPLICATION?

>> IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO SUBMIT, I NEED IT RIGHT AWAY. I NEED TO GET IT ATTACHED TO AGENDA WHEN WE PUBLISH THE NEXT AGENDA IT WILL BE

THERE. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS

ITEM? >> MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT ON THE PROCESS AND I NO E THAT PROBABLY NOT EXACTLY WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM IS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN IDEA WHAT PROCESS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT. I KNOW YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE TIME ITS A LITTLE BIT PAINFUL.

>> I WAS ALL FOR IT TO DO IT.

ONCE I GOT THROUGH IT -- >> I HAD SECOND THOUGHT.

>> MY ONLY COMMENT THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BOARD APPOINTMENT. AND SOME PEOPLE LOOK GREAT ON PAPER. BUT WHEN YOU GET THEM IN FRONT OF YOU FIND OUT WHAT YOU HAVE.

AND THOSE ARE THE TALENTS. SOME OF THOSE -- SOME OF THAT IS THE TALENT THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IN THAT BOARD APPOINTMENT. I AM GOING TO SAY I WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO THESE CANDIDATES AT LEAST MAYBE THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES TO BE ABLE TO COME SOME DECISIONS. JUST GIVE SOME THOUGHT HOW WE WILL GO ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

I THIS WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS.

>> THAT MEANS WE CAN'T CHOOSE THEM THE NEXT TIME.

IF YOU THINK IN TERMS OF THAT MUCH OF A PROCESS?

>> I'M JUST STATING THE FACT FROM MY OWN CHOICE I'M LOOKING AT LIST OF CANDIDATES THAT ALL I KNOW THEM IS BY WHAT THEY'VE WRITTEN ON A PIECE OF PAPER.

I KNOW ONE OR TWO OF THEM PERSONALLY.

TO BE FAIR ABOUT THAT CHOICE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO INTERVIEW THOSE FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO DO EVEN IF IT'S ON INDIVIDUAL BASIS. I DON'T WANT TO PROLONG THIS. BUT I WILL RREMIND YOU THE LAST TIME WE MADE ELECTION FOR THIS IT WAS IN OCTOBER.

THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER. I KNOW THAT MISS CAVALCANTE STEPS DOWN END OF SEPTEMBER. IF WE DON'T GET IT DONE.

I WOULD RATHER DO IT RIGHT IF IT TAKES US A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN NOT. IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE SO PAINFUL BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. MAYBE IF WE CHOSE THE TOP THREE, BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS IN FRONT OF US.

THEN WE HAD SOME FORM OF WAY THAT EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR COLLECTIVELY WE'RE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN.

I'VE MET WITH AT LEAST ONE OF THE APPLICANTS ALREADY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WIDDLING IT DOWN TO TOP

THREE? >> I HAVE A QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU STILL HAVE THREE THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING EITHER PUBLICLY UP FRONT OR HAVE SOME TYPE OF PROCESS OF HAVING A GROUP EVALUATION. AND SO I THINK THAT PUTS US STILL AT THAT POINT. I THINK ONE CHALLENGE HERE IS ECHO YOUR CONCERN AND COMMENTS.

I'VE HEARD FROM MAYBE ONE, MAYBE TWO OR TWO E-MAILS.

HAVEN'T HAD AN INTERACTION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AS THE PERSON THAT I WOULD LOOK TO APPOINT TO THAT BOARD. IN A WAY OF FAIRNESS I THINK WE ARE ALL CHALLENGED. HOW DO WE DO THAT.

IT WAS CHALLENGING WATCHING YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, WE -- WE'RE PRESSED WITH TIME.

WE WILL GO DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN.

WE HAVE TO DISCUSSION ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD. WE WILL HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AND PERFECT IT.

THIS ONE SHORT OF WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE.

I THINK WHAT WILL BE FAIR IS THAT WE NOTIFY THEM NOW.

IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR THEM TO BE IN FRONT OF US.

THAT WOULD BE FAIR AND I THINK THAT NOW GOING ON RECORD TONIGHT IF THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE GET DOWN TO

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THREE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY FAIR WAY I SEE IT RIGHT NOW.

>> WE HAVE OUR OWN CRITERIA BY WHICH WE GRADE.

THERE'S A VALUE TO HEAR QUESTIONS THAT WE EACH ASK

THE CANDIDATES. >> IF WE SELECT THE TOP FIVE OR FOUR OR THREE. THEY GO FROM OFFICE TO OFFICE. AND GIVE ME TEN MINUTES WITH THEM AND 15 MINUTES WITH THEM.

I WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE OWE OURSELVES.

WE. WE'RE IN MEETING JOINT MEETING WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE SENSITIVE ISSUE GOING FORWARD.

SOME OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE I KNOW THEY CAN'T GET IT DONE. WE HAVE A LARGE TASK AT HAND FROM UTILITY AUTHORITY. YOU KNOW, PICKING LEADERSHIP, PICKING CHANGE OWE SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND MOVING FT. PIERCE FORWARD.

IT WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE HAD IT TO WHERE EVERYBODY HAD THERE FOR HOUR AND A HALF AND WE TALKED TO EVERYONE AT ONE TIME. HELP US MAKE OUR OWN

SELECTION. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH

CHIEF OF POLICE. >> AND ONE OF THE THINGS.

I THINK WE ASKED FOR WHAT MAKE GOOD BOARD MEMBER.

WE HAD -- WE HAD WHAT HIS IDEA OF WAS A GOOD BOARD MEMBER. BUT MANY TIMES WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION EXPECTS OUT OF SOMEONE IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SLANT; RIGHT? A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS?

>> DO YOU ANY IDEAS. >> I DON'T WANT THE DO INTERVIEW IN THE CHAMBER. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT AT ALL. I FEEL LIKE THAT I CAN GET ONE ON ONE TEN MINUTES A TIME ANG KNOW EXACTLY WHAT DIRECTION HOW THE SCHOOL HOW TO EVALUATE THE INDIVIDUALS.

NEXT MEETING I DO AGREE THAT WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO THREE MAYBE EVEN TWO POSSIBLY.

I START LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR IF WE CAN NOTIFY CANDIDATES OR POTENTIAL CANDIDATES TO SEE IF THE LAST WEEK OF THIS MONTH WOULD BE AN OPTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SCHEDULES LOOK LIKE.

WE HAVE MEETING ON THE 21. EVEN IF WE CARRY IT INTO OCTOBER AND WE MISS THE FIRST FPUA MEETING.

THAT'S OKAY. THE PART OF THE PROCESS.

I WOULD GO FURTHER TO SAY. IT'S A BUSY TIME FOR ALL OF US. CLAIRE CAN SET UP ZOOM MEETING. I DON'T CARE.

I REALLY DON'T CARE. IN THE SAFETY OF IT IS ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE WE WOULD GET AT LEAST THE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE CANDIDATES

AND MOVE FORWARD. >> I WOULD LIKE THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER EVALUATE.

LOOKS LIKE WE WILL EXTEND INTO OCTOBER MAYBE A WEEK OR SO BEFORE WE HAVE THAT WHICH WILL BE OKAY WITH ME AS WELL. AS LONG AS WE IF WE'RE CLEAR. THE BIGGEST THING ALL FIVE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED RIGHT NOW JUST IN CASE; RIGHT? AND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING AT THAT LAST WEEK TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AVAILABLE.

AND I LIKE THE OPTION OF ME BEING A TOIBL COMMUNICATE WITH THEM THROUGH ZOOM OR TEAMS. IF THEY WANT TO COME IN PERSON I'M FINE WITH THAT AS

WELL. >> WE CAN'T NOTIFY.

>> THEY COULD BE NOTIFIED. >> YES.

MAY I WEIGH IN. >> ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, YOU HAVE SPECIAL MEETING. CONFERENCE AGENDA OF THE MARATHON CONFERENCE AGENDA IN THE MORNING.

THEN WE SPECIAL MEETING FOR FIRST READING OF BUDGET BUDGET ORDINANCES ON THE 13TH.

ALSO AT THAT MEETING, YOU WILL BE NARROWING YOUR CITY ATTORNEY CANDIDATES. SPORE INTERVIEWS.

>> IT'S A 5::05 MEETING. >> I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE'RE

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ALREADY NARROWING IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN INCLUDE THE NARROWING OF THE FT. PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY CANDIDATES AT THAT TIME. AND WHAT I CAN DO BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CATCH ALL OF THEM.

I WILL SCHEDULE AS MANY MEETINGS WITH YOU AS YOUR SCHEDULE WILL ALLOW IF YOU WANT TO MEET WITH THEM BEFORE THE NARROWING. OR JUST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM A CALL. FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE CALLS AND NOT SET UP MEETING IN TERMS OF RIGHT NOW. BEFORE THE NARROWING.

AND THEN AFTER THAT -- I THINK I'M OUT OF TOWN THE

23RD AND 24TH. >> ME TOO.

THAT'S WHY I PICKED THE WEEK AFTER.

>> RIGHT. >> WE HAVE EIGHT ON THE

LIST. >> I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE THE NUMBER WE WILL NARROW DOWN TONIGHT.

>> PHYSICAL INTERVIEWS. >> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> UNDERSTAND THAT MISS CAVALCANTE SERVES UNTIL REPLACED. SHE DOESN'T DROP OFF ON THE 30TH. I THINK ONCE WE FIGURE HOW WE WILL DO THIS, THIS YEAR I WILL RECOMMEND THAT WE START THE PROCESS EARLIER IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T THINK A MONEY ST. ENOUGH.

>> UNLESS IT'S A REAPPOINTMENT.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCESS.

>> AND TO BE FAIR. >> RIGHT.

>> WHAT WITH WE NEED FURTHER RIGHT NOW TO DECIDE HOW MANY TOP CANDIDATES WE WANT TO PICK?

>> IF YOU WANT TO DO NARROWING.

OR WAIT ON 20TH. >> I'M IN FAVOR.

THREE OR LESS. I WILL GO THREE.

>> IF WE NARROW TO THREE. YOU WILL ARRANGE OF THE 8 CANDIDATES POSSIBLY MORE BETWEEN NOW AND THE 13TH TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF INTERACTION?

IS THAT WHAT I HEAR YOU? >> I WILL DO MY BEST.

>> WE'RE AVAILING OURSELVES TO PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO DO THE TEN MINUTE WE WILL BE AVAILABLE; RIGHT?

>> IS THAT WHAT I HEAR? >> MY THOUGHT PROCESS I WILL CALL THE INDIVIDUALS. THEN I WILL SCHEDULE FORMAL INTERVIEW AFTER WE NARROW THE THREE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THREE YOU HAVE.

THEN WE WILL SHORT LIST THE THREE.

AND THEN I WILL SCHEDULE MY FORMAL INTERVIEWS.

>> YOU ARE NARROWING PROCESS TO GET TO THREE BEFORE THE FORMAL PROCESS IS HAVING CONVERSATION WITH THE 8 PEOPLE. LOOKING AT RESUMES.

IF YOU WANT TO MEET WITH ANY OF THEM, YOU CAN.

I'VE MET WITH AT LEAST ONE. >> YOU CAN HAVE A

CONVERSATION. >> I'M SURE I WILL BE FOR FEW MINUTES PREFER VIDEO WHATEVER.

HAVE A CHAT WITH THEM. I WILL THEN HAVE SOME MORE

FORMAL INTERVIEWS. >> RIGHT.

>> NARROWING 13TH. >> YOU TALK ABOUT THREE OR

LESS. >> THREE OR LESS.

>> DO WE HAVE TO AGREE? I'M OKAY WITH THREE.

>> I SEE THREE OR LESS. I KNOW HOW IT GOES WITH 1,000RFQ PROCESSES. YOU HAVE TEN CONSULTANT TRYING TO COME. THEN IT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN APPARENT THAT TWO MAKE IT. SOMETIMES THAT JUST HAPPENS.

NOT ALWAYS. AND 90% OF THE TIME IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. SOMETIMES IT DOES.

>> I JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT OPEN TO THAT.

THE STAR DOES ALIGN. >> I THINK WE WILL COME TO CONSENSUS. YOU WILL SEE IT ON PAPER.

>> WE'LL PLANNING ON ONCE YOU NARROW TO THREE TO DO THE INTERVIEWS BEFORE THAT. IT'S PRETTY TIGHT TO TRY TO DO ALL THE INTERVIEWS BEFORE THE MEETING ON THE 20TH.

DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH PLANNING ON HAVING THE VOTE TAKEN ON AT THE OCTOBER 4TH MEETING?

>> UH-HUH SM. >> IS THAT A GOOD PLAN.

I CAN LET MR. TOMPECK AND MR. CAVALCANTE IN ON THAT AS WELL. THEY WILL HAVE MEETING ON

THE FOLLOWING DAY. >> ONBOARD REVIEW.

THEY CAN TAKE THE NEW MEMBER AND PREP THEM FOR THE NEXT

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MEETING IN OCTOBER. >> THANK YOU FOR MAKING US

THINK THAT THROUGH. >> ALL RIGHT, ARE WE GOOD?

>> I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THIS ISSUE.

I THINK WE HAVE A PROCESS MOVING FORWARD -- IF THIS WORKS THIS TIME IT'S A GOOD PROCESS TO CONSIDER MOVING

[c. Submittal of applications to serve on the Fort Pierce Youth Advisory Committee.]

FORWARD. >> RIGHT.

KEEP TRYING. NEXT ITEM SUBMITTAL OF APPLICATION TO SERVE ON THE FT. PIERCE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE. NOW THIS ITEM WE HAVE IT'S 7 SEATS. I THINK WE HAVE 7 APPLICATIONS. ONE PERSON TERM HAS NOT YET EXPIRED. BUT SHE IS SEEKING APPOINTMENT BY A CITY COMMISSIONER.

UNLESS WE GET MORE APPLICATION.

IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE MIGHT HAVE A FULL SLATE OF THOSE THAT HAVE SUBMITTED. THE NEXT MEETING I WILL ASK YOU TO NAME YOUR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTEE.

EITHER FROM THIS LIST OR NOT FROM LIST.

BUT IF YOU DON'T NAME FROM THE LIST I WOULD PREFER YOU LET ME KNOW WHO IT IS I CAN VERIFY THEIR ELIGIBILITY BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS.

I KNOW MAYOR HUDSON YOU HAVE YOUR APPOINTEE HAS COME IN AND COMMISSIONER PERONA YOUR APPOINTEE IS SEEKING

REAPPOINTMENT. >> HAS SHE FILLED OUT THE

CORRECT APPLICATION? >> THE REASON THEIR APPLICATION IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY NEED PARENT'S

APPROVAL. >> A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC TO YOU KNOW THESE ARE STUDENTS.

I NOW HAVE THAT APPLICATION. THAT'S 7 WITH HER.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO COULD LIKE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR FAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

NO, YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE SWORN IN. WE HOPE YOU TELL THE TRUTH.

WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.

>> JOSEPH LARRY LAMMERS. I WAS LISTENING TO AND OF COURSE I HAVE VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.

I LISTENED TO COMMISSION COMMISSION SPEAK ABOUT THE OPEN SEAT. I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER ON PAPER.

ONE THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO DO AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I HEAR COMMENTS OF NOT BEING INTERESTED IN INTERVIEWING THE PEOPLE.

AND HELPING APPLICANTS GET THEIR JITTERS OUT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IF I WERE IN YOUR POSITION.

I WOULD TRY TO FIND SOME WAY TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE APPLICANTS. HAVING BEEN IN ENOUGH BOARD MEETINGS, AND WORKED FOR FPUA FOR 16 YEARS AND READING VARIOUS NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING FOR THE UTILITY AUTHORITY IT CAN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE BE A HIGH-STRESS POSITION.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS IDENTIFY THOSE FOLKS WHO CAN DO WHAT THEY KNOW THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

REGARDLESS OF THE AMOUNT OF PRESSURE BEING PUT ON THEM AT THE TIME. I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BUT WHATEVER WAY YOU CAN HELP YOURSELVES FIND OUT HOW THESE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS WILL OPERATE UNDER PRESSURE I THINK THE BETTER OFF WE AS THE COMMUNITY WILL BE.