May 09, 2022 City Commission Conference Agenda

[1. Call to Order]

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TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE

CONFERENCE AGENDA. >> WAIT MINUTE, WE ARE NOT ON YET.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: LET'S START OVER.

THIS IS THE CONFERENCE AGENDA. MONDAY MAY 9.

WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: HERE,

MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON:

HERE, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: PR T

PRESENT. >> THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION OF OUR 2022 LEGISLATIVE WRAP-UP BY NICOLE FOGARTY. SHE IS WALKING IN THE DOOR RIGHT

NOW IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO A LITTLE TALK BEFORE SHE GETS HERE.

>>NICK MIMMS: NO, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT -- MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED, MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM B.

[b. Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board - Strategic Planning Committee Presentation]

>> MAYOR HUDSON: FINE WITH ME. >> SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY

BOARD PRESENTATION. >> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMS.

>>NICK MIMMS: WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF THE SUNRISE THEATRE AND THE CHAIR OF THE SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THEY WILL COME UP AND GIVE US AN UPDATE AS TO THE HAPPENINGS OF THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WELCOME.

>> BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A LOT OF OUR SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, OUR SUNRISE THEATRE FOUNDATION MEMBERS, AND ALSO VOLUNTEERS THAT GIVE COUNTLESS HOURS OF SERVICE TO THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

I THINK LOOKING OUT INTO THE AUDIENCE, I AM REALLY PRIVILEGED TO WORK WITH ALL OF THESE P E PEOPLE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

PLEASE STAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] WE APPRECIATE YOU.

>> ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE I DEE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AND PATRONS OF OUR DOWNTOWN. AND I -- I APPRECIATE THEIR SHOWING UP IN SUPPORT OF THE SUNRISE.

I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE MR. SINGLETON WITH FACILITIES MANAGEMENT. HE IS PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY THAT IS OUR CONSULTANTS THAT WE STARTED WITH BEGINNING OCTOBER 1 1. RIGHT NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE BECKY SHERER. SHE WILL PRESENT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PUT TOGETHER BY OUR SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD P

FM AND SUNRISE MANAGEMENT STAFF. >> MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD MORNING,

MA'AM. >> WE WILL START WITH A SHORT VIDEO AS SUNRISE DID AS A RECAP OF SOME OF THE EXCITING THINGS THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR. THERE IS MUSIC TO IT, BUT I

DON'T KNOW IF -- >>NICK MIMMS: IT IS ON MUTE.

IT IS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER.

>> OKAY. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪.

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>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, I AM BECKY SHERER, CHAIR OF THE SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF INDIAN STATE COLLEGE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR FOUNDATION MEMBERS. A COUPLE OF DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION BUSINESSES HERE TODAY AND, OF COURSE, OUR USHERS WE COULDN'T DO ANY OF THIS WITHOUT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AS A RECAP LAST SUMMER, THE ADVISORY BOARD DECIDED TO DO A STRAWOR STEEJZ FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR OUR PURPOSES AND SUNRISE.

THE INDIAN STATE COLLEGE STARTED THAT PROCESS.

IN SEPTEMBER YOU ASKED US TO REALLY LOOK INTO THIS.

AND WE SAID WE HAD BEEN, BUT AT THAT POINT, WE RECEIVED A GRANT.

-- THE SHUTTER GRANT -- AND WANTED TO GET ADVICE FROM A CONSULTING COMPANY. AGAIN WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE WENT FREE PARTNERSHIP WITH PFM STARTING IN OCTOBER.

AND THEY HAVE JUST BEEN INVALUABLE TO HELPING PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER. ALL OF REST OF US ARE VOL S VOLUNTEERS. WE WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO COULD THIS -- TO DO THIS WITHOUT THEM.

AND HE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END.

SHOWING IS YOU THE OVERVIEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT OUR FIVE-YEAR STEEJZ PLAN WILL C R COVER.

OBVIOUSLY A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THINGS, BUT SHARE HON HAS HARD COPY MORE IN DETAIL TO STAKE OUT FOR YOU TO VIEW THE FINANCIALS AND INFORMATION LIKE THAT. WITH THAT A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR PLAN WILL INCLUDE. A QUICK TABLE OF CONTENTS.

THE VISION STATEMENT. THE SUNRISE THEATRE VISION IS TO BE THE TREASURE COAST NUMBER ONE LIVE EVENT WHILE FOSTERS AN INCLUSIVE, WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL.

WE DID AS A GROUP REVISE THE MISSION STATEMENT.

HERE IS THE CURRENT MISSION STATEMENT.

OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE THE HERITAGE OF THE SUNRISE THEATRE BY PROVIDING A WIDE VARIETY OF QUALITY PERFORMING ARTS AND EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES IN AN EXCEPTIONAL VENUE.

THE THEATRE SERVING TO ENRICH THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY BY ENHANCING ITS INVOLVEMENTS IN THE ART AND STIMULATE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY WHILE SHOWCASING DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. SO, AGAIN, THE STEEJZ PLAN, WE HAD TO DE-- STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAD TO DECIDE WHAT THE AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON AND DECIDE AND THESE EXAMPLES.

ENHANCING ECONOMIC, PROGRAMMING, SPONSORSHIP AND MEMBERSHIP PROGRAMS AND BUILDING A STRONG FOUNDATION.

A GREAT ORGANIZATION IS ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO INCREASE THE ENTHUSIASM OF PATRONS, STAFF, FOR NEW IDEAS OF EDUCATIONAL PERFORMANCE AND TO REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL.

THIS IS A PART THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THE OVERALL STATEMENT OF THIS FIVE-YEAR N PLAN.

WE OBVIOUSLY ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. THAT IS WHAT THE FIRST STATEMENT IS SAYING, BUT THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IS CONDUCTED BY THE AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS TO ASSESS THE ARTS ON THE ECONOMY OPINION USING A POPULAR TOOL ON THEIR FINDS ESTIMATE THE SUNRISE THEATRE'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE CALCULATOR SAID ECONOMIC IMPACT WILL BE $9 MILLION. IMPRESSIVE LEVEL OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY DRIVES LOCAL JOBS AND DRIVES LOCAL GOVERNMENT REVENUE THAT MIGHT GO TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES MAKING IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND HOW ART AND CULL DEMUR FORT PIERCE ARE DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE CITY'S ECONOMIC VITALITY.

THAT IS WHY SOME OF THE BUSINESSES ARE HERE AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE FACT THAT THE SUNRISE BRINGS IN REVENUE TO THEIR ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

SO GOING ON NOW SPECIFICALLY. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REACHING OUR FULL POTENTIAL.

STARTING WITH THE OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE.

OUR GOAL WILL REPRESENT IN Y INDUSTRY-BEST PRACTICES AND

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CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT OPERATING AT INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

AGAIN THE PLAN WE HAVE TODAY, WE ALL BELIEVE IT IS A VIABLE PLAN AND CANNOT BE BUSINESS AS USUAL. IT IS TIME RETHINK AND RESTRUCTURE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE STAFF, SIZE AND CULTURE REQUIRED TO INCREASE STAFF SIZE AND CULTURE FOR INDUSTRY STANDARD OF A THEATRE OF COMPARABLE SIZE.

IN OUR HANDOUT, WE GAVE A BR BREAKOUT OF WHAT THE POSITIONS WOULD BE, WHAT THEY WOULD DO AND THE COSTS.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PLAN. TO INCLUDE IMMEDIATE NEEDS SUCH AS A WATER HEATER REPLACEMENT, CARPETING AND PLUMBING FIXTURES.

INSURANCE. RESEARCH OUTSIDE INSURANCE POSSIBILITIES FOR MORE AFFORDABLE PREMIUM OR ADJUST CURRENT PREMIUM TO A MORE REALISTIC LEVEL.

BASED ON SIMILAR SIZE FLORIDA VENUES, RESEARCH INDICATE THAT ANNUAL PREMIUMS MUD IS BE $85,000 TO $95,000.

IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING WE ARE PAYING $250,000 A YEAR FOR INSURANCE. YES.

ACCOUNTING PRACTICES. REVISE BUDGET AND ACCOUNTING PRACTICE TO INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES BY SEPARATING OVERHEAD REVENUE EXPENSES TO EVENT REVENUE EXPENSES SO BOTH WILL BE MORE CLOSELY MONITORED AND MANAGED.

THE EVENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. A FAIRLY NEW THING, BUT WE ALREADY STARTED IT AND ALREADY HAD A BIG IMPACT ON OPERATIONS AT THE THEATRE. SO WE PLAN TO CONTINUE USE OF THE EVENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE TO KEEP ALL INFORMATION STORED IN ONE PLACE FOR EASE OF USE AND ACCESS TO STAFF.

AGAIN, WILLS, SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM PFM THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED BUT WE -- BUT THIS PART OF THE WHOLE OVERALL PLAN.

THE WEB SITE AND TICKETING SYSTEM IMPLEMENT A REDESIGN WEB SITE AND NEW TICKETING SYSTEM KEEPING UP WITH TECHNOLOGY AND PROVIDING A SMOOTH EASY PROCESS FOR THE CUSTOMER AND UPDATING AND MARKETING TOOLS, ETC. MARKETING.

RECOGNIZE AND USE NEW APPROACHES TO DIGITAL MARKETING TO PROMOTE EVENTS, INCREASE OUR REACH, AND EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE AND ENGAGE WITH OUR TARGET AUD AUDIENCES.

GOING BACK TO THIS AT THE END, BUT THE NEW TICKETING SYSTEM AND THE MARKETING ALL WORK TOGETHER TO BETTER IDENTIFY WHO OUR PATRONS ARE AND ALSO OUR DONORS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MARKETING BOTH TO THOSE BASED ON ACTUAL DATA AND INFORMATION.

NOW WE MOVE CONTINUE TO PRO PROGRAMMING.

THE GOAL IS TO BE THE TREASURE COAST LIVE ENTERTAINMENT RISING STARS, CONCERT HALL, GRAMMY WINNERS, COMEDY SUPER STARS AND AN ARRAY OF EVENTS. DEVELOPMENT AN ARTIST RESIDENCY AND OUTREACH. EXPAND PROGRAMS TO REPRESENT DIVERSE CULTURES AND TALENT. CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AND HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.

EXPAND ARTIST REACH WITH RELATIONSHIP WITH PFM.

SOME OF THESE LIKE DANIEL TOSH, NEVER AN ACT THAT WE WERE TAPPING INTO. WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO.

THE RELATIONSHIP ARE PFM, ONE ACT.

THE SHOW IS NOT EVEN UNTIL NOVEMBER.

THE TICKETS SOLD OUT THE ENTIRE EVENT IN ONE DAY.

ONE EXAMPLE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH PFM TO BROADEN AND CONTINUE WITH THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. CONTINUE TO FILL THE SCHEDULE WITH OUTSIDE PROMOTERS WITH RENTAL ACTIVITY AND DECREASING THE RISK. CONTRIBUTED REVENUES.

DELIVER HIGH-QUALITY PRODUCTS TO ATTRACT AND SECURE NEW DON S DONATIONS, SPONSORSHIP AND MEMBERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS IS A WIDE RANGE FROM CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS TO DONORS TO ALL KIND OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT SOME OF THINGS WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH IS TICKET PACKAGES TO CORPORATE SPONSORS FOR THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE SPONSOR ARRANGEMENT.

CURRENT SPONSOR PACKAGES TO ENCOURAGE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. HIRE A DEDICATED STAFF MEMBER TO FOCUS ON GRANTS, DONATIONS AND MEMBERSHIPS.

MANY OF THESE ACTIVITIES FALL UNDER THE REALM OF A DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AND AGAIN HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THESE PACKAGES, MAKING THOSE CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND -- BUT, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING ALL THESE ADDITIONAL REVENUES IN BASED ON THE ACTIVITIES THEY ARE DOING. PARTNER WITH LOCAL MERE COMMENTS FOR DISCOUNTS, A YOUNG MEMBERS PROFESSIONAL CLUB FOR FUND RAISING ACTIVITIES AND SERIOUS PACKAGES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR EARLY TICKET SALES FOR MEMBERS AND MULTISHOW PURPOSES.

AGAIN, AS I SAID, TIME TO RETHINK AND RESTRUCTURE.

I AM SO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT HAS JUST BEEN DONE IN THE LAST

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A LOT MORE COMMUNICATION. THE FOUNDATION ITSELF HAS JUST EXPLODED WITH IDEAS. NEW MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY IS READY TO ROCK AND ROLL. AND, AGAIN, WITHOUT THAT, I DON'T THINK THIS FIVE-YEAR PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.

SO THESE ARE REALLY SPECIFICALLY.

THEY HAVE MET WITH US. AND WE ARE ALL AGREEING THIS WOULD BE THINGS TO FOCUS IN. MORE DEVELOPMENT TO CREATE A FOUNDATION TO RAISE SIGNIFICANT FUNDS FOR THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THE CHILDREN'S THEATRE PROGRAMS EACH YEAR. INCREASED FUNDS WITH THREE TO FOUR EVENTS WITH THE GOAL OF $10,000 EACH EVENT.

GRANT SOURCES AND APPLY FOR GRANTS.

INCREASE THE NUMBER WRITTEN EACH YEAR TO IMPROVE RATIO OF GRANTS APPROVED. RESEARCH EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT AND A PERMANENT ENDOWMENT FUND. BEGIN A CORPORATE UNDERWRITING PROGRAM. CONTINUE CORPORATE AND UNDERWRITING PROGRAMS AND DEVELOPMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A GRANT GIVING PROGRAM.

AND I KNOW IT IS SMALL UP THERE, BUT THEY PROVIDED US WITH A PROJECTION OF WHAT THEY HOPE TO DO IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND AGAIN THIS IS OUTLINED IN MORE DETAIL IN THE HAND-WRITTEN PROJECT BUT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE STUFF THEY ARE LOOKING AT. WE ARE ALSO AT THE END OF THE MONTH IN MAY, THE SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE MEMBER BOARD TO MEET WITH AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD WORKING TOGETHER TO GIVE US IDEAS AND THEY ARE HERE TODAY AS WELL. THANK YOU.

AGAIN, I KNOW THIS WAS KIND OF SMALL, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THROUGH THE HELP OF PFM.

THEY HAVE HELPED US LOOK AT OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THIS DOES INCLUDE INCREASING EACH YEAR THE TYPE OF SHOWS WE ARE DOING.

MAKING SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SHOWS.

EVALUATING WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT IS NOT WORKING.

AND ALSO WILL INCLUDE THE EXPENSES ON WHAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED HERE TODAY AS FAR AS INCREASING CERTAIN STAFF AND REALIGNMENT OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ALL OF THIS IS INCLUDED IN THERE. ONE THING WE IMPLEMENTED THIS YEAR BASED ON PFM IS GETTING ACTUAL SHOW SURVEYS SO WE PROVIDED A COUPLE IN HERE FOR TODAY.

JUST AN ON AVERAGE. WE ALREADY HAD 1200 SUNRISE GUESTS COMPLETE THE FEEDBACK AND WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MOSTLY ALL THE RATINGS, WE GO FROM A TO F, BUT OURS WERE THE AS AND BS. AND ALSO INCLUDED COMMENTS AND YOU CAN SEE HERE JUST SOME OF THE GREAT COMMENTS THAT OUR PATRONS ARE SAYING. THEY TALK OF OUR USHERS, THE STAFF, THE THEATRE ITSELF, THE PROGRAMMING.

YEAH. I WON'T READ THEM ALL, YOU CAN JUST SEE THEM THERE. AND THAT WRAPS UP THE FIVE-YEAR PLANS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE LYNN TO JOIN US TOO AND MAYBE ONE OF THE THREE OF US CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONERS. >> I FEEL LIKE I AM ON THE HOT SPOT HERE. FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY SHIRT, I FORGET HOW TO DRINK COFFEE IN FORT PIERCE THIS MORNING. WE HAVE BEEN HERE A BRIEF TIME, AND MOST OF OUR ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN TOWARD MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDING SOME TOOLS.

THE NEW SOFTWARE PACKAGE WE HAVE FOR SCHEDULING IS SOMETHING WE USE IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS AND IT IS REALLY -- AND I AM NOT AN I.T. GUY, BUT AN ELECTRONIC FILE CABINET.

EVERYTHING WITH EVERY SHOW GOES IN THAT FIRE CABINET SO WHEN -- AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THE AGENT COMES BACK AND TELLS YOU SUCH AND SUCH, YOU GO TO THAT FILE CABINET AND IT IS THERE AND THE CONVERSATION IS THERE. AND WE DO A LOT OF COACHING.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PANDEMIC WAS CATASTROPHIC EVENT FOR OUR INDUSTRY. THE LAST TIME IT WAS CLOSED SHAKESPEARE WAS DOING PLAYS AND IT WAS THROUGH THE BUBONIC PLAGUE. INDUSTRY DID NOT CLOSE IN 2019.

WE WEATHERED IT AND SHARON HAS DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB KEEPING THE PLACE TOGETHER. THE OTHER THING IN THE SURVEY.

YOU ARE WELL THOUGHT OF IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU ARE AN ASSET. WHEN SHARON TOLD ME THE RESULTS

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YOU WENT THROUGH THE WAR AND SURVIVED WITH A LOT OF HELP AND NOW WE ARE IN RECONSTRUCTION. AND OUR BUSINESS RIGHT NOW -- OUR BUSINESS IS NOT BACK ALL THE WAY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL RELUCTANT TO COME BACK TO BEING IN CLOUDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY DEPENDING ON THE PROTOCOLS PUT IN PLACE. THAT RELUCTANCE WHETHER EXPRESSED OR NOT OUR BUSINESS IS BACK 75 TO 80%.

ANOTHER THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER, SHARON, IN OUR FUTURE, WE LIVE IN THE FUTURE TENSE. LAST SPRING WHEN THINGS STARTED TO LOOK BETTER, WHAT DID WE DO? WE STARTED BOOKING SHOWS, O ONE-NIGHTER. SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, OMICRON CAME ALONG AND PEOPLE'S PATTERNS CHANGED.

PEOPLE RESISTANT TO GO OUT TO SHOWS, SO THE BUSINESS HERE WAS PROBABLY NOT YOU HAVE A 20%, IT WAS PROBABLY YOU HAVE A 40% TO 50%. AND NOW HOPEFULLY -- OF COURSE THINGS CAN SUDDENLY GO SIDEWAYS AGAIN AND WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS, WE ARE BEYOND THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT AND EVI EVIDENCED. MOST OF HATE TOERS ARE CREATED FOR ONE OF THREE REASONS IF NOT ALL THREE, IT IS TO CREATE CRITICAL MASS DOWNTOWN, IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND TO BAM REVENUE AND EXPENSES TO OPERATE IN A FISCALLY PRUDENT MANNER.

AND -- I OWN A HOUSE OVER ON THE OTHER COAST AND WE RUN TWO THEATRES IN FLORIDA AND PRESENTLY CONSULTING TO TWO OTHERS, ONE THAT IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE BUILT.

AND THE WORLD IS COMING YOUR Y WAY.

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND. THE 5% INTEREST RATES MAY IMPACT IT FOR A WHILE IN THE REAL ESTATE, BUT THIS SIDE OF THE COAST, IT IS COMING UP THIS COAST.

AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING HERE WILL HAVE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS AND RAISE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS IN THE MINDS OF SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT THEY WANT.

AND BELIEVE ME, A SURVEY WILL BE ONE OF THEM.

I DEAL WITH CORPORATE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE IN BUSINESS, I CALL THEM THE QUALITY OF LIFE MOMENT EVEN LIKE -- LIKE GOING TO A HOTEL.

DO THEY HAVE A SGHIM I MAY NOT USE THE GYM BUT THE LIFE WITH ASK THE CORPORATE GUY OR PEOPLE MOVING HERE, IS THERE A THEATRE OR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. LIKE THE POOL.

BY TO A HOTEL. DO YOU HAVE A POOL? AND IT WILL BE ON THE PUNCH LIST.

IT ALWAYS IS, BUT MY PERCEPTION IS WE RUN THE BUILDING IN CORAL SPRINGS FLORIDA. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SUCCESSFULLY IN A MODEST WAY, WE CREATED A THREE BUILDING TRIANGLE. KIND OF LIKE THE CHICAGO BULLS OFFENSE -- WHATEVER THE COACH'S NAME THAT TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD CREATED. WE RUN THE BUILDING IN FT. MYERS AND LEE COUNTY. WE RUN THE BUILDING IN CORAL SPRINGS IN BROWARD COUNTY. AND PRESENTLY INVOLVED IN THE BUILDING HERE. WHEN WE SUBMIT AN OFFER FOR JOHN MELLENCAMP. I WILL PICK SOMEBODY THAT I WHO IS OUT HERE. WE PICK FOR THREE AND LEVERAGE THEM FROM PERFORMING HERE. THAT IS HOW DANIEL TOSH HA D HAPPENED. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY -- AND I WISH MY LIFE AND MY JOB WAS MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SHOWS AND YOU GET FOUR QUESTIONS ASKED. WHAT IS THE SHOW, WHERE ARE MY SEATS, WHERE DO I EAT, AND WHERE DO I PARK.

AND IF YOU CAN DO ALL FOUR OF THOSE THINGS WELL, YOU HAVE A SUCCESSFUL THEATRE. QUESTIONS?

>> MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU SAID THE THEATRE BUSINESS FORWARD THINKING. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT MEANING WHAT FORWARD THINKING IS.

WE GOT THROUGH WITH REVIEWING A FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

YOU START TALKING OF BOOKING SHOWS AND BUILDING A BUSINESS -- FUTURE BUSINESS FOR THE THEATRE, HOW FAR OUT DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO PLAN TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL FLOW?

>> GOOD QUESTION. MY MOTHER ALWAYS ASKED ME WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING AND I WOULD TELL HER I LIVE IN THE FUTURE TENSE.

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A WHOLE MENU RIGHT NOW AND ONE OF THE THINGS I PRETEND TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT AND DO WELL IS NATIONAL TOUR IN BROADWAY.

I WISH I DID. THOSE ACTS -- "HAMILTON"I AM OUT FIVE YEARS IN MOST OF OUR BUILDINGS.

WHAT IS HOT RIGHT NOW IS COMEDY. EXTREMELY HOT.

THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT.

ONE I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO LAUGH.

THE OTHER I THINK IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED IS WITH THESE BIG PRODUCTIONS. A BAND LIKE CHICAGO.

THAT SHARON WILL PLAY. WE HAVE AN OFFER.

THEY MOVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH JAY LENO WHO LIVES IN RHODE ISLAND. JAY GOES ON THE PLANE, GETS YOU HAVE A THE PLANE AND THEN GOES HOME.

IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, HE DOESN'T COME.

AND PEOPLE WANT TO LAUGH. THAT IS THE QUESTION YOU ARE TRYING TO GET TO IS, ON ONE NIGHT OUR ACTS -- SHARON'S WINDOW IS PROBABLY SIX TO NINE MONTHS.

SOMETIMES IT IS SIX WEEKS. GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH SEBASTIAN MANISCALCO.

A LOT OF ITALIANS IN RHODE ISLAND.

AND HE WAS GOING TO DO A CORPORATE GIG FOR $1 MILLION.

HE WANTED TO PRACTICE. I GET A CALL AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF THEY COULD PRACTICE AT THE SUNRISE THEATRE AND DO A $25 TO $35 TICKET. I CALLED SHARON.

SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO HE IS. THIS GUY PLAYS MADISON SQUARE GARDEN AND WE EDUCATED HER QUICKLY.

HE WANTED TO COME IN A MONTH. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT MAY HAPPEN SEBASTIAN'S JEWISH INLAWS LIVE IN NAPLES AND ONE TIME A YEAR HE COMES TO THE FT. MYERS THEATRE WHICH IS 1800 AND PLAYS SEVEN SHOWS SO HIS INLAWS CAN COME. JUST LIKE ANYTHING.

GENERALLY BETWEEN THREE TO SIX MONTHS.

BUT COVID HAS IMPACTED THAT. LET THERE -- YOU KNOW, OUR INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS. OUR INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS HAVE LIVES. WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BUILDING IN DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA.

WON THEATRE OF THE YEAR AWARD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

A WEEK AFTER THE ACADEMY AWARD, WE DID TWO SOLD OUT NIGHTS FOR CHRIS ROCK. AND SUDDENLY THE DYNAMICS CHANGED. THE PLACE LOOKED LIKE AN ARMED CAMP. I HAD POLICE WITH DOGS.

I SAID TO MY MANAGER, IF WE ARE DOING SHOWS THAT WE NEED TO BRING DOGS, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T DO T.

BUT NOBODY -- NO ISSUES. CHRIS WAS VERY HAPPY.

SO IT IS REALLY -- IT IS A DYNAMIC.

COMEDY WORKS RIGHT NOW AND OTHER THINGS ARE COMING BACK SLOWER.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: WHAT KIND OF -- I AM TRYING TO GET A VISION.

A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE CHARGED OF MAKING DECISIONS WHERE THE THEATRE IS, HOW IT IS GOING, HOW IT IS PERCEIVED BY THE COM Y COMMUNITY. AND WE -- I NEED TO KNOW HOW -- YOU KNOW, A DECISION TODAY MAY EFFECT SOMETHING THIS SUMMER OR IF WE DON'T HAVE A DECISION BY THE SUMMER, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE REST OF 9 YEAR. I MEAN, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT LAG TIME IS THAT -- TO BE TO ACCOMMODATE A GOOD BUSINESS PLAN

FOR THE BUDGET YEAR. >> I THINK YOU ARE -- GENERALLY YOU ARE SIX TO 18 MONTHS OUT. THE OTHER THING TOO, QUITE FRANKLY -- WE ALL EXPERIENCE THIS YEAR IN BUSINESS, EMPLOYEE ISSUES ARE TOUGH RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T COME BACK. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME BACK HAVE DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS. AND THE EXPECTATIONS ARE GOING TO GET HIGHER WITH INFLATION. SO THE OTHER THING TOO IS, SHARON WILL BE YOU IN THE A POSITION SHE WANTS TO HIRE AND RECRUIT A QUALITY INDIVIDUAL. IF THAT -- YOU KNOW, IF THE INSTITUTION IS ITSELF, NOT ON SOLID GROUND, HOW CAN SHE GO ABOUT RECRUITING A QUALITY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS GOING TO SAY.

OUR BUSINESS, THE TECHNICAL E SIDE, WE DEPEND ON OUR LABOR.

AND YOU NEED A PERSON IN THAT BUILDING THAT.

YOU NEED RELATIONSHIPS. SOMEBODY KNOWS HOW TO BUILD ON THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WHEN HE OR SHE NEEDS THEM.

THAT IMPACT YOU BESIDE BOOKING THE EVENT BECAUSE YOU NEED QUALITY STAFF. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY FACILITY OR PERSONNEL THAT SHARON HAS, BUT OUR TWO BUILDINGS IN LEE COUNTY, FT. MYERS AND CORAL SPRINGS, WE HAVE EIGHT TO NINE FULL-TIME STAFF. BUT THE CITY AND THE COLLEGE ON THE OTHER COAST, THEY PROVIDE THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE

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WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT. WE CERTAINLY -- WHAT IS THE D WORD, ADVISE AND COACH AND CONSULT WITH THEM ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE BIG THING WE ARE DOING OVER IN FORT MEYERS RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE ADDING A LOT OF WOMEN'S BATHROOMS THE CLENCH PRESIDENT IS TIRED OF HEARING IT SO THEY

WILL BUILD BATHROOMS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

GAINES. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. QUICK QUESTION.

EVERY WEEKEND ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE OR MY E-MAILS I SEE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 1 AND OTHER PARTS OF FORT PIERCE HEADED NORTH OR SOUTH. I WON'T CALL OTHER VENUE NAMES BUT YOU SAID COMEDY, TO SEE CERTAIN TYPES OF COMEDY ACTS.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE VENUES I AM TALKING ABOUT IN PALM BEACH AND ORLANDO AND I WON'T CALL THEIR NAME RIGHT NOW.

WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE LOCALLY TO TRY TO ATTRACT SOME OF THOSE SAME COMEDIANS AND EVENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE LEAVING FORT PIERCE TO TRAVEL HOUR AND A HALF NORTH AND SOUTH TO SPEND MONEY SO WE CAN KEEP THEM HERE TO SPEND MONEY HERE.

FIRST QUESTION. SECOND QUESTION, I KNOW WE HAVE -- YOU SAID THE BUSINESSES IN THE THEATRE AND WANT TO HAVE THIS REBRANDING OF DOWNTOWN. HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT OF ANY TYPE OF -- WHAT IS IT EAT AND DINE -- NOT EAT AND DINE.

DINE AND VIEW, DINE AND DANCE, WHATEVER, WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SAY, HEY, COME EAT THIS JUICY STEAK.

DON'T EAT TOO MUCH BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO ENJOY THIS SHOW AND I WANT TO YOU GO TO SLEEP. ANYTHING LIKE TO GET OFFERS OUT TO SAY, HEY, NOT ONLY COME SEE THIS GREAT VENUE BUT TRY RESTAURANT THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK THIS RESTAURANT AND GO TO THE LOCAL COFFEE JOINT AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE AND GO BACK HOME. ALL ONE KRP, ALL ONE FAMILY.

THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT -- I SAID THE SAME THING. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS OF THE NEGATIVES. WHEN I LOOK AT A REPORT -- WHEN I SEE A REPORT, I CAN SEE ALL THE A-PLUSES BECAUSE THE A-PLUSES ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO CALL MY OFFICE AND CALL THE MAYOR. IT IS THE ONES -- THAT ARE GOING TO CALL US AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, YOU ALREADY ANSWERED THE QUESTION A GREAT POSITIVE FOR THAT.

BUT MY TWO THINGS. HOW CAN WE KEEP THE MONEY THINK THAT KNOW IS LEAVING KRP TO GO NORTH AND TO GO SOUTH.

MAYBE THEY JUST WANT TO DO THAT. BUT I KNOW JUST FOR A FACT IF WE CAN GET THE SAME ARTISTS HERE AND REACHING OUT, WE CAN KEEP

THAT MONEY THERE. >> I WILL ANSWER THE FIRST ONE AND SHARON WILL ANSWER THE SECOND ONE.

YOU HIRED US. WE BOOKED 1200 ACTS A YEAR.

THE TRIANGLE AND WE WILL LEVERAGE THAT.

DANIEL TOSH WOULD NOT BE HERE WITHOUT US.

HAVING SAID THAT, WHEN WE GOT HERE LAST FALL, THE ICE WAS VERY THIN. I AM A FISCALLY PRUDENT MIDWESTERNER. I AM LIKE, HEY, LET'S GO CAREFULLY HERE. NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T KNOW THE MARKET. WE CERTAINLY KNOW -- WE HAVE BEEN IN CORAL SPRINGS 27, 28 YEARS.

LEE COUNTY, 28 YEARS. WE KNOW THOSE MARKETS.

LEARNING THE MARKET. SHARON DIDN'T HAVE A BOX OFFICE MANAGER YET AND WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGING THE TICKETING SYSTEM AND WE WILL MAKE A DENT IN THAT. THE ONE ADVANTAGE THAT YOU HAVE, EVEN MORE SO THAN CORAL SPRINGS IS YOU ARE A SEPARATE MARKET.

WHEN WE LEVERAGE CORAL SPRINGS, WE LEVERAGE THE OTHER COAST.

IN SEASON, THAT MARKET IS LIKE EVERY NIGHT.

THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE AND BROWARD COUNTY JUST SPENT $30 MILLION TODAY 40 MILLION RENOVATING THE PARKER PLAYHOUSE WHICH IS 1100 SEATS. A BIG UGLY COMPETITOR FUNDED AND BROWARD CENTER IS UNDERWRITING THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE KIND OF ISSUES.

YOU HAVE TO CREATE THAT SEPARATE MARKET AND GOD BLESS THE INTERNET. WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE INTERNET NOW AND IT IS THE REASON PRINT MEDIA GOT KILLED IS

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WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THAT, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL YOUR RELATIVE RISK BECAUSE GENERALLY NOW IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS.

IF I SEND OUT AN E-MAIL TO SEE A SHOW -- FOREIGNER.

LET'S PICK SOMEBODY, FOREIGNER. I GENERALLY GET BACK 30% TO 35% OF PRESALES. THAT IS GREAT.

MONEY IN THE BANK AND HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING TO KEEP MY LIST UP TO DATE AND TO WORK. IF I GET BACK 10% AS -- AS MY FATHER WILL SAY IN KENTUCKY, WE KNOW THE DOG DOESN'T HUNT.

WE GOT A PROBLEM AND BETTER ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND GET RID OF THE ACT OR MAKE -- YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO MARKET IT. BUT YOU ARE AN INDIGENOUS MARKET. THAT IS VERY GOOD.

AND YOU ARE RIGHT. THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOING TO GO SEE THOSE COUNTRY SHOWS SOMEPLACE ELSE.

THEY WILL SEE THOSE COMEDY SHOW. THE OTHER THING -- AND I KNOW DO YOU THIS -- I CALL IT MISSION-DRIVEN.

SOME SHOWS YOU SHOULD DO BECAUSE IT WILL APPEAL AND DIRECTLY IMPACT THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE MARKET.

AND YOU SHOULD DO THOSE FOR ALL THOSE THINGS AND CANDIDLY, THEY ARE NOT ALL GOING TO MAKE MONEY. IT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.

AS I WAS TELLING SHARON LAST NIGHT BECAUSE WE ALWAYS REMEMBER OUR LOSERS. SHE BASICALLY RUNS A STOCK MUTUAL FUND PORTFOLIO. IT LOOKS LIKE -- ALL THESE ACTS AND SOME OF THEM -- LIKE WE ALL THE FIGURE APPLES WILL GO TO THE SKY AND AMAZON, AND GOOGLE. THEY DON'T.

THINGS ACT DIFFERENTLY IN DIFFERENT MARKET.

THE THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS BOOK ENOUGH TENT POLE SHOWS TO HOLD THE TENT UP SO YOU CAN DO THOSE FAMILY SHOWS.

BECAUSE YOU WANT THOSE PEOPLE IN THE CITY.

AND YOU WANT THEM TO COME AND BE PART OF THE OVERALL VENUE.

AS FAR AS PACKAGES -- AND I WILL LET SHARON ADDRESS THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IN PROVIDENCE.

AND I AM PARTIALLY TO BLAME FOR THIS.

A NEW RESTAURANT OPENS UP, I GO TO THE RESTAURANT.

A QUID PRO QUO. SEND AN OFFER DESSERT, FREE DRINK OUR PATRON. RHODE ISLAND IS 250,000 PEOPLE AND SEND IT OUT FOR THEM AND HELPS DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP.

AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD, OF COURSE, I COME BACK IN THE FOLLOWING FALL AND I TRY TO SELL THEM TO SPONSOR AND TO FUND "JERSEY BOYS." LET SHARON TALK OF THE PACKAGE.

>> PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO OFFER SPECIAL DISCOUNTS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOUGHS, DINNERS AND PACKAGES.

SOMETHING WE WILL BE WORKING TO OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE TICKET BUYERS. WE HAVE MET RECENTLY IN THE PAST -- WITHIN THIS PAST MONTH WITH ONE OF OUR LOCAL RESTAURANT OWNERS. AND DISCUSSED THIS OPPORTUNITY.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE ARE STRATEGICALLY PUTTING INTO PLACE

FOR THE FUTURE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. JOHNSON.

>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU MENTIONED THE ASTRONOMICAL INSURANCE.

WHAT IS CAUSING THAT ISSUE TO HAVE AN OVERINFLATED INSURANCE.

WHAT IS THE ISSUE THAT HAVE CAUSED THAT?

>> COMMISSIONER, THAT IS PART OF MY BUDGET THAT IS PUT IN AND OF WHAT I DON'T HAVE ANY SAY OVER.

A NUMBER THAT GETS PUT INTO OUR BUDGET.

I HAVE QUESTIONED IT AND BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION JUST -- FOR MY BOARD JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT -- WHAT IS THAT COST? WHY THAT COST SO HIGH? AND WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW I DID GET THE POLICY COVERAGES. AND THE ADVISORY BOARDS ARE SENDING OUT FOR THEIR OWN Q S QUOTES.

>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR BASICALLY INSURANCE QUOTES. MAKES SENSE TO SHOP THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN TO TEST IT OUT. MY EXPERIENCE IS USUALLY WHEN INSURANCE IS HIGH, SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.

THERE IS SOME RISK THERE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO MITIGATE AND WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM THE THEATRE.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WE OPERATED SAFELY AND HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES OR PERILS TO CAUSE IT TO BE OVERINFLATED BUT THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT AND NEIGHBOR IS IN THE DETAIL WHEN YOU GET US THOSE DETAILED PACKETS.

SECOND QUESTION I WILL HAVE, WHEN YOU WERE BEFORE US BEFORE, WE MADE SUGGESTIONS LOOKING AT WHAT I WOULD CALL MARKETING AT RISK KIND OF THINGS. THINGS THAT WOULD ASSIST THE

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A PERSON THAT COULD TAKE ON AMOUNT OF RISK BUT ALSO BE REWARDED OBVIOUSLY FOR BRINGING IN, YOU KNOW, DONORS, ETC. AND THIS KIND OF THING. I LOOKED AT YOUR PACKET AND I SAW YOUR GOALS AND WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE RELATIVELY MODEST GOALS FOR A FOUNDATION BOARD. MY IMPRESSION WILL BE HIGHER OF THE FOUNDATION BECAUSE OF THE LIST OF POTENTIAL YOU WILL BUILD AND GO AFTER AND MARKET TO AND MY EXPERIENCE BEING ON THE FOUNDATION BOARD. ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT THAT AS FAR AS THAT TYPE OF PERSON THAT WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE WITH TASKS OF BRINGING IN THESE MONIES THROUGH THE FOUNDATION?

>> CURRENTLY OUR FOUNDATION IS REORGANIZING.

AND I WILL SAY IN THE PAST SINCE I HAVE BEEN AT THE THEATRE SINCE 2007. AND I NEVER SEEN A MORE ROBUST AND AGGRESSIVE FOUNDATION I AM PLEASE $WITH THE ACTIVITY -- THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY THEY ARE CURRENTLY AT AND WORKING WITH STAFF AND THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THEY ARE FUND GOAL-ORIENTED AND WORKING WITH AN ORGANIZATION WE WILL BE MEETING LATER THIS MONTH WITH TO REALLY ORGANIZE THE FOUNDATION.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT PLAN OF GIVING.

AND THEIR GOALS ARE MUCH BROADER THAN THEN WHAT WE PRESENTED HERE TODAY AND WE WANT TO GIVE A REALISTIC EXPECTATION TO THE COMMISSION. WE DON'T WANT TO OVERINFLATE ANYTHING. WE DON'T WANT TO PROMISE PIE IN THE SKY. WE WANT TO GIVE REALISTIC GOALS WITH THE -- WITH US KNOWING THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WILL PROVIDE GREATER FUNDING.

>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I APPRECIATE THAT AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND THE SPIRIT YOU ARE SAYING IT IN.

ALL I KNOW IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE FOUNDATION, THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS.

THEY HAVE LIVES. THINGS GET IN THE WAY.

PEOPLE HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS. MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE ONE PERSON THAT IS ACCOUNT FUMBLE THAT FOUNDATION PERSON COMES WITH A GREAT IDEA OR ROLODEX OF PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW THEY WANT TO SHARE WITH THAT FOUNDATION, THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO DO THAT WORK, RIGHT. FOUNDATION MEMBERS WHO SIT ON THAT BOARD. MY EXPECTATION IS HERE ARE THE PEOPLE THINK THAT KNOW AND WILLING TO MAKE PHONE CALLS AND GET THEM IN A NICE RECEPTION ROOM AND WE WILL MAKE THAT ASK OF THEM AT THAT PARTICULAR P T POINT.

I HOPE THAT THOSE FOUNDATION MEMBERS ARE LOOKING AT THAT FOR DIRECTION BECAUSE I KNOW THROUGHOUT THE TREASURE COAST -- AND ALREADY NOTED THAT THE EYE IS ON US.

WE HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF WEALTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND GREAT AMOUNT OF PHILANTHROPIC GIVING FOR THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

IT IS GOOD TO HEAR THAT THE FOUNDATION BOARD IS COMING TOGETHER, WORKING TOGETHER. COHESIVENESS.

I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

THE LAST QUESTION I WOULD HAVE AND MORE OF A COMMENT, SIR.

YOU MENTION THIS BEING A DESTINATION AND THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS ON THAT. MY CONCERN IS NOT NECESSARILY THE 1200 PEOPLE WHO RESPONDI AM WORRIED ABOUT THE OTHER 47,000 WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT HAVE NO IDEA THAT SURVEY WAS OUT THERE AND HOW DO WE GET TO THAT.

I AM A MARKETER BY TRADE. 1200 OUT OF 48,000 IS NOT EVEN 1 1%. SO MY CONCERN IS HOW DO WE GET MORE TO UNDERSTAND THE AUDIENCE HERE.

BECAUSE WE ARE A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF W H WEALTH.

WE HAVE GREAT AMOUNT OF POVERTY. ALL ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS PRESENTED IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND EVEN IN THE SURROUNDING CITIES.

AND WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE AND I HAVE SEEN VERY DIVERSE ACTS COMING THROUGH THE SUNRISE THEATRE AND DIFFERENT GROUPS, GREATLY APPRECIATED. I THINK WE HAVE TO GO EVEN FURTHER AND EVEN DEEPER IN THAT. BECAUSE THESE COMMUNITIES ARE LOOKING FOR VENUES TO BRING IN THINGS THAT WOULD ALSO NOT ONLY UNITE FORT PIERCE BUT UNITE THIS COMMUNITY AND ETHNICITIES THAT ALREADY REPRESENT AND PAY TAXES HERE.

WHEN I -- WHEN I SEE THAT AND I DID LOOK AT THAT BUDGET FOR THE FIVE-YEAR CONTINUUM. THE CITY IS STILL HERE AS A BIG SUBSIDY TO THIS. AND I WANT THAT TO BE REFLECTED WHEN WE THINK OF PROGRAMMING. BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING TAX PAYING DOLLARS FROM ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE TYPE OF PR M PROGRAMMING THAT COMES TO THE THEATRE, SIR.

AND GOES TO COMMISSIONER GAINES POINT.

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THEY GO TO WEST PALM. AND SOME OF THEM ARE DOING IT OVERNIGHT BACK AND FORTH. THEY CAN DO THAT HERE IN CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE HAVE THE VENUES.

WE HAVE THE RESTAURANTS. WE HAVE THE BARS.

THEY NEED TO GO TO FORT PIERCE. AND I WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> ACTUALLY YOUR MARKET WANTS TO STAY HERE.

WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO NAPLES AND FT. MYERS AND WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION WE CAN'T DO THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH NAPLES ARE SURE, THOSE PEOPLE AT NIGHT DON'T WANT TO DRIVE 40 MILES ON 75. THEY WANT TO HERE THEY WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE. GOING TO YOUR POINT OF PRO PROGRAMMING. YOU NEED TO DIVERSIFY YOUR PORTFOLIO. EVERYTHING CANNOT BE DANIEL TOSH. EVEN WITH COMEDY.

A LOT -- A LOT -- NOW SOMETIMES THERE ARE GROWING PAINS WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE AND.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN FORT MYERS.

THE BUILDING IS ON THE COLLEGE CAMPUS AND 40 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE A MESS. 30 YEARS AGO LEE COUNTY WAS A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND A LOT OF THE POPULATION DIDN'T WANT TO GO UP TO THE COLLEGE. I STARTED DOING COUNTRY.

I WAS DOING WILLIE NELSON AND ALL THOSE KIND OF ACTS AND W WAYLON JENNINGS AND GEORGE JONES.

THEY CAME BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO SEE THEM.

THE ONLY PLACE. SAME THING WITH SHARON.

WHEN YOU GET THE ACT, YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MARKET TO THAT SEGMENT AND SHOOT WHAT I CALL A RIFLE RATHER THAN A SHOTGUN. THEY WILL COME BECAUSE A SHOW THEY WANT TO SEE MOST PEOPLE -- ALL DUE RESPECT FOR SHARON AND THE KRP, WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE COMING TO THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

THEY DON'T SAY I AM GOING DOWN TO THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

THEY SAY I AM GOING TO SEE WILLIE NELSON OR IT IS ABOUT THE SHOWS. AND THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.

THAT WAY SHE WILL DIVERSIFY HER LIST AND GET FEEDBACK.

SO -- SHARON, I MEAN THAT -- --

>> I CALL THAT ABOUT THE SURVEY. THAT SURVEY SPECIFICALLY WENT TO PATRONS THAT HAD COME TO SEE A SPECIFIC SHOW.

SO ALSO, THAT IS WHY USUALLY THEY ARE ALL GOOD COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND THINGS LIKE T THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING WE ADDRESSED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SURVEY TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAYBE WE CAN GET YOUR HELP ON THAT BECAUSE OUR PROBLEM HOW DO WE CONTACT THOSE PEOPLE IF THEY ARE NOT COME TOGETHER SHOW. WE SAID THAT ON MULTIPLE OCCASION. WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE AND WE HAVE TO SOLICIT AND GET INFORMATION FROM THEM.

MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN GIVE SHARON -- MAYBE FROM THE CITY A CONTACT LIST. BUT THAT IS WHAT WE MEAN.

WE NEED THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE NOT HEARING FROM AND HOW DO WE

SPECIFICALLY TAP INTO THEM. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I CAN TELL YOU IT COMES THROUGH A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

WE ARE SEEING AN EMERGENCE OF EVERYBODY GETTING ON BOARD WITH ONE FORT PIERCE. A NUMBER OF GROUPS RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH SOME OF THESE SURVEYS.

LINCOLN PARK MAIVRN MAIN STREET. HAD A SURVEY.

THEY CAN HELP YOU. THE HAITIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEY CAN HELP YOU. THE LATINO -- I FORGET THE EXACT NAME OF IT. THEY HAVE A VERY ORGANIZED GROUP AS WELL THAT THEY CAN HELP YOU. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE -- WE NEED MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE T TALKING TO THOSE GROUPS THAT ASK FOR THEIR HELP TO GET THIS OUT. AND THEN WE NEED THAT FEEDBACK

FROM THEM SO WE CAN REACT. >> IF I MAY, YOU MENTIONED LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET. WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND REACHED OUT AND LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL TO PUT A TICKETING KEY OS INCOME LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET IN THEIR OFFICE TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE LOOK AT THOSE DINDZ OF STRATEGIES TO GET THE SUNRISE THEATRE AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT THAT IS ONE OUR GOALS AND OUR MISSION IS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE EVENT ORGANIZATION IN FORT PIERCE AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THANK YOU FOR THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND LOOKING A HEAD.

ALWAYS IMPORTANT SITTING IN THIS CHAIR AND MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE. SO I HAVE A COUPLE -- ABOUT THREE OR FOUR QUESTIONS. BUT LET ME START WITH P FM.

IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE OTHER CONTRACTS AND OTHER RELATIONSHIPS AND ENTITIES AROUND THE NUMBER OF STATES THAT

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THE REASON I ASKED. WE TALKED ABOUT THE INSURANCE AND IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.

>> I AM THINKING. ONE IS OWN $BY THE STATE OF RHODE ISLAND. SOMEONE OWNED BY THE -- WHAT IS CALLED THE SOUTHWESTERN -- SOUTHWESTERN STATE COLLEGE IN LEE COUNTY. CORAL SPRINGS IS OWN $BY THE CITY AND SKOKIE OWNED BY THE VILLAGE.

SO THEY ALL ARE OWNED IN SOME CAPACITY THAT WAY.

OUR INSURER CARRIER IS MARCH MCCLEHAN.

ONE OF THE BIG BOYS WITH EXCEPTION -- ONE EXCEPTION.

WE PARTNER WITH THE NIELANDER FAMILY OUT OF NEW YORK AND DURHAM WHICH IS AN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THEY OWN 10% OF THE YANKEES AND I GET GOOD SEATS.YANKEE STADIUM AND SHIPLEY WHICH IS THE OTHER BIG BOYS. I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ISURANCE -- NOT TO THROW ANYBODY OUT OF THE BUS, BUT YOU OPENED A NEW BUILDINGS. SO A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

YOUR INSURANCE CARRIER HAD YOUR RATE AT A CERTAIN HIGH.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HE HAS HAD NO MAJOR ISSUES.

AND A LOT OF TIME THE INSURANCE IN OUR BUSINESS -- I AM NOT AN INSURANCE GUY, BUT I HAVE A CRACKERJACK COO WHO IS.

BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WILL COME TO YOUR BUILDING.

IT SEEMED PRACTICAL -- IMPRACTICAL DURING COVID-19 A 3 $300,000 INSURANCE PRICE WHERE NOBODY GAME.

IT IS PER COST. AS I TOLD SHARON LAST NIGHT, THE INSURANCE ON ANY PRODUCT, THE CAR AND HOUSE IS YOUR AGENT.

SO MY AGENT WHEN I USE TODAY DRIVE A PORSCHE WOULD TELL ME LYNN, YOU WILL HAVE TO TELL ME THE TRUTH SO I CAN GO TO BAT FOR YOU. AND I WOULD BID IT LOCALLY AND OUR POLICIES ARE GENERALLY SOMEWHERE -- WE RUN THE LARGEST BUILDING IN NEW ENGLAND. THE POLICY WHAT SHE IS PAYING IS

BETWEEN $80,000 TO $100,000. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THAT MAKES SENSE. THE REASON I ASK IS MULTIPLE LAYERS TO THIS QUESTION. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, THERE A WAY TO NOT JUST HAVE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE -- THE KRP FORT PIERCE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, COVERAGE -- COVERED INSURER OR PART OF THE NAMED INSURER ON A POLICY AND ARE THERE OTHER MEANS AND METHODS TO GRABBING INSURANCE OUTSIDE OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WHICH IS WHAT WE USE FOR GENERAL INSURANCE AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OVERALL.

SO ANYWAY, POINT BEING, YOUR EXPERIENCE WILL PROVE WORTHY OF US TRYING TO SHOP THAT AND CHANGE THAT AROUND TO SAVE THE FUNDING. THAT IS WHY I ASKED YOU OF THE MUNICIPALITY PORTION. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE VENUES THAT YOU REPRESENT ARE OWNED BY OR DO YOU HAVE SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, LLC CORPORATION THAT IS OPERATING, YOU KNOW OR

FOUNDATION. >> AS I VOLUNTEERED TO SHARON, THAT YOU SHOULD BID IT LOCALLY. BETTER YOU HAVE A LOCALLY.

IF YOU WANT ME TO KICK THE TIRES WITH MARSH AND SHIPLEY AND SAY DID YOU BID THE NECESSARY THINGS.

WHAT IS HOT NOW IS RANSOMWARE INSURANCE.

THE NORMAL COVERAGE IN MOST PEOPLE'S POLICY WAS $1 MILLION.

COST YOU $15,000 A MILLION. UNFORTUNATELY I KNOW THE NUMBER.

AND WE RAISED OURS SEPARATELY IN PROVIDENCE TO FIVE.

BECAUSE I DISCOVERED THROUGH A CONTACT OF MINE WHO -- TALKING OF AN ODD JOB, HE NEGOTIATES RANSOMWARE PAYMENTS TO THESE GUYS. WHAT THEY DO IS DISCOVER IN YOUR SYSTEM HOW MUCH INSURANCE YOU HAVE, AND THAT IS THE NUMBER THEY ASK FOR AND I THINK WE HAD THREE IN OUR POLICY SO I WENT TO MY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND I SAID WE SHOULD GO TO FIVE AND COST ME AN EXTRA 30. YOU MAY NOT NEED FIVE MILLION.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THAT MAKES SENSE.

THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING.

WHAT I LIVE AND BREATHE IN EVERY DAY.

AGAIN I WANT TO YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND SHARON, MAYBE YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME. INFORMATION ON HOW MANY -- WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR CLIENTS ARE LOCALLY OWNED MUNICIPALITY TYPE AGENCIES. EVERY THEATRE OR 60% OF THE THEATRES. SO I -- IF YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME ON THAT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS, AT LEAST IT IS FOR ME.

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>> I WAS GIVEN THE ABILITY TO HIRE A TECHNICAL DIRECTOR AND THAT WILL BE AT FOUR. WE DID INCREASE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE FIVE YEARS.

AND THE REST OF THEM ARE ALL PART-TIME STAFFING.

INJURIES SDWLAERZ IS INCLUDED -- >> IT IS INCLUDED IN THE -- LIKE YEAR ONE. WE NEED THESE PEOPLE HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: WE NEED THEM HERE AND IN FIVE

YEARS -- >> WE ARE NOT INCREASING BEYOND THAT LEVEL WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS EXCEPT FOR PART-TIME STAFFING.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THE NUMBERS INDICATED SUCH AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM READING IT CORRECTLY.

MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT -- AND THE FOUNDATION PART. I WANT TO REITERATE IT AND SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE THE OTHER PART THAT IS CONSISTENT ACROSS THE FIVE-YEAR BOARD AND THE REVENUE SIDE IS THE ALLOCATION FROM OPERATING SUBSIDY AT $450,000 WHICH COMES FROM THE FPRA.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT. BUT FOR ME I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. I NEED TO SEE THE NUMBER INCREASING AND THE FOUNDATION DECREASING.

ONE THING CONSISTENTLY IS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE CITY AND HAS TO DO WITH FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

EXPERIENCES IN THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE INC G INCREASING. WAGES MUST INCREASE.

RESPONSE TIMES MUST REDUCE. AND THEY ARE NOT.

THEY ARE INCREASING BECAUSE WE ARE SLOWER TO RESPOND.

SO GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT, WITH WHEN GET INTO BUDGET TALKS AND COMMISSION VERSE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT.

THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT IT AND I TALKED ABOUT IT.

WE NEED TO BE REAL OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO RESPOND TO OUR CITIZENS. WHEN I TALK ABOUT THAT NUMBER BEING CONSISTENT IN THE F FIVE-YEAR PLAN, I NEED IT TO BE BROUGHT DOWN. $300,000 TO $400,000 THAT WE ARE IN THE SHORTFALL WANT CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CRA WHERE WE NEED TO REBUILD AND RESPOND.

WE NEED TO RESPOND TO DOWNTOWN. WE NEED TO HAVE FOOT PATROL OR BIKE PATROL. I DON'T WANT TO BRING THAT INTO THE THEATRE CONVERSATION TOO, TOO MUCH BUT I HAVE TO.

IT IS PART. THAT LINE ITEM ON THE FIVE-YEAR REVENUE PROJECTION HAS TO BE LOOKED AT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF WE WERE TO CHANGE? WHAT IF THE CRA OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, ALSO KNOWN AS THE CRA, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE EXPENDITURES ARE BEING REDUCED? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY START TO GO DOWN? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? WE HAVE EXPERIENCE THAT M IN A RECESSION YEARS AGO.

DON'T EVER WANT TO GO BACK THERE AGAIN BUT A WHAT IF SCENARIO.

WE ARE PLANNING AHEAD AT THE SAME TIME LOOKING AT FUTURE PROJECTIONS AND EXPENSES AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THEY ARE REAL CONVERSATIONS AND HAPPEN CONSISTENTLY AND HAVE TO BRING IT IN WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT KARP HEAD.

UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE STANDING AT THE PODIUM AND YOU HAVE TO HEAR IT FROM ME. WE ARE GOING TO MEET AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL LET US MEET WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD.

OUTSIDE OF THAT. ECONOMIC IMPACT.

IN THE VIDEO IT TALKED OF THE PRICE IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

AND YOU SAID THAT AND PUT IT IN QUOTATIONS.

AND SO $9 MILLION OF ECONOMIC IMPACTED IS ESTIMATED.

SO THAT $450,000 FROM THE CRA A 5% OF THE $9 MILLION.

THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS CREATED TO ENHANCE LOCAL BUSINESS. IT IS CREATED TO REVITALIZE.

IT IS CREATED TO REDEVELOP, JUST LIKE THE NAME SAYS.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER. IT GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS WHO D SAID, OKAY, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE STRUGGLING. DURING THE PANDEMIC OUR BUSINESSES WERE STRUGGLING BUT OUR BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN WERE ABLE TO SUSTAIN AND THRIVE, AND NOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING UNTICK ON ALL FRONTS RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, IS DOCTOR IS THAT $9 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ENTIRE CITY? AND IT GOES BACK TO THE QUESTIONS ON THE -- ON THE POLLING AND WHERE WE ARE ACROSS THE CITY.

OR IS IT JUST IN THE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.

YOU KNOW, DOES IT CREATE ADDITIONAL TOURISM?

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SO THERE IS A LOT -- A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING WITH THAT ALSO. AND THE TRUE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

BECAUSE DURING A PANDEMIC, A N AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MANY -- IF ANY SHOWS IN 2020. WE HAD VERY RARE -- VERY LI D

LIMITED. >> MAYOR HUDSON: UP UNTIL MARCH

1 OF 2020. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THEN FOR A YEAR. 2021.

>> 2021 WE HAD PERFORMANCES AT 50% CAPACITY.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO -- BLACK BOX CONTINUED THROUGH JUNE 2020 ALL THE WAY UP TO NOW. SO WE HAVE TRIED TO PROVIDE THE DOWNTOWN WITH -- OR WE TRIED TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH SOME -- SOME ENTERTAINMENT RESOURCES AND DOWNTOWN WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY. AND WE TRIED TO REMAIN OUT IN THE -- OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS A -- SOMEWHAT AS A BEACON.

AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY DURING THE PANDEMIC WITH ALL KIND OF DIFFERENT -- KIDS COLORING CONTEST AND HAD GREAT SUPPORT THROUGH THAT TIME. PROVIDED LIVE STREAMING VIDEOS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE.

SINCE THE PANDEMIC AND THE 50% CAPACITY, WE REALLY -- WE GAINED A LOT OF LOCAL COMMUNITY SCHOOLS -- DANCE SCHOOLS.

WE ARE NOW THEIR HOME. AND THEY PROVIDE THEIR -- THEIR STUDENT AND PARENTS WITH A PROFESSIONAL TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AND WE ARE PROUD OF THAT. WE WERE THE ONLY VENUE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT SAFELY. AND I THINK THAT TALKS OR SPEAKS TO ONE FORT PIERCE. WE ARE PARTNERING WITH ORGANIZES SUCH AS END IT. A TREMENDOUS ORGANIZATION AND WE WON'T TO WORK WITH THEIR STUDENTS, ACTORS AND ENTERTAINERS TO PROVIDE THEM AN OUTLET FOR THEIR TALENTS.

WE HOPE TO BRING THEM IN AS WELL AS -- AS WELL AS USHERS.

WE ARE LEARNING FROM THEM. WE LEARN DURING A RECENT PERFORMANCE WITH THEM. SO A LOT OF OUR VOLUNTEER YOU SHALL IRES DON'T GET A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT AGE GROUP.

WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER, WE LEARNED SOME THINGS.

WE HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE THEM COME IN, THE STUDENTS COME IN AND TALK TO OUR USHERS AND HELP THEM LEARN TOGETHER.

BRING THEM TOGETHER AND BRING THEM INTO OUR VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION AS WELL. SO WE REALLY WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. WE WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY O T OUTLET. WE WANT TO FEED OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF ENTERTAINMENT TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, TO BRING THEM INTO FORT PIERCE AND TO SEE WHAT WE

ARE ALL ABOUT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE WERE -- WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATION, I REMEMBER, DURING THE PANDEMIC WITH YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE SAME TOPICS OF TODAY BUT ALSO DEALING WITH THE PANDEMIC AND YOU GETTING ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND INVITING THOSE FOLKS IN AND THAT ELEMENT THAT -- THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, MISSION-DRIVEN ELEMENTS, RIGHT.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF IT. AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE DONE THAT AND THANK YOU. I SAY THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT THEN. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TODAY.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. SO IN LEE COUNTY, THE COLLEGE

OWNS THE THEATRE. >> CORRECT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT DO THEY PROVIDE WITH FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

THEY BUILT IT. THEY DO THE MAINTENANCE.

AND HOW IS IT RUN? >> WE HAVE AN OPERATING LEASE AGREEMENT OF WHICH THEY PROVIDE CERTAIN DOLLARS -- I CAN'T REMEMBER YOU HAVE A THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT AMOUNT IT IS, PROBABLY A CERTAIN DOLLAR FIGURE.

AND THEY PRO HVAC. THEY DO ALL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. THEY DO SAFETY AND SECURITY AROUND THE BUILDING, LAND G LANDSCAPING, CAPITAL.

THAT'S -- >> MAYOR HUDSON: MOSTLY CAPITAL OPERATION, NOT OPERATIONAL. MOSTLY CAPITAL, NOT OPERATIONAL

FUNDS, IS THAT RIGHT? >> THEY PROVIDE AT THE BEGINNING -- I COULD BE WRONG, SPEED MONEY OF $200,000 SEE MONEY FOR OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. WE HAVE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS AND LEE COUNTY, IN SEASON, IT IS LIKE WE DO AN EVENT EVERY NIGHT.

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AND EVERY NIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

I MEAN DANIELS ROAD PARKWAY RIGHT THROUGH THE COLLEGE, I USED TO ZIP THAT. 5:00 AND YOU CAN'T BE THERE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVE BEEN THERE RECENTLY.

>> PRESIDENT ALBRITON. GOOD GUY.

YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL HIM. WE HAVE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS.

THE COLLEGE -- IT IS THEIR BUILDING AND THEY WANT TO KEEP IT UP. A MAJOR UNIVERSITY THERE, GULF COAST. THEIR SHINING PIECE AND WE ARE ALL OVER TELEVISION PROMOTING THE COLLEGE NAME.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: NO TOWN AND GOWN.

THEY ARE ALL TOGETHER. AND IN CORAL SPRINGS --

>> PROVIDE A SUBSIDY OF ABOUT -- I WANT TO SAY 4 50,000.

THEY PROVIDE ALL MAINTENANCE. THEY PROVIDE ALL CAPITAL.

COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, PARKING LOT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I HEARD TOO, TOO, THAT IN PENSACOLA, THE CITY OWNS THE BUILDING, EXPENDS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

BUT OPERATIONALLY, IT IS KIND OF ON ITS OWN.

SO WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS, I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE. AND I AM NOT AS BOTHERED BY THE $450,000 AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS, COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

BUT I AM BOTHERED BECAUSE WE NEVER STICK TO THAT.

I AM BOTHERED BECAUSE WE ALWAYS GO OVER THAT.

WE HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS. WE HAVE PLANS.

WE HAVE ASSURANCES. BUT WE ALSO GO OVER THAT.

THIS IS HARD FOR A CITY TO BE IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN'T CONTROL. SUNRISE THEATRE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND LIKE THE ARENA AND THE GOLF COURSE.

BOTH APPEAL TO DIFFERENT KIND OF SEGMENTS AND SOMETIMES THERE IS OVERLAP. I THINK THEATRE WILL BE ANOTHER SEGMENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPERATE A BOAT, PLAY GOLF.

YOU CAN GO AND ENJOY. BUT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE TICKETS IT HAS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU APPEAL TO. AND YOU SAID THE.

WHERE AM I GOING TO EAT? WHERE ARE MY SEATS? WHERE AM I GOING TO PARK? WHAT IS THE FOURTH ONE?

>> WHERE IS THE SHOW. >> MAYOR HUDSON: GETS THROUGH

IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> NUMBER ONE, THAT IS THE

DRIVER. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THE OTHER FUNDS HAVE STRUGGLED IN THE PAST AND NOW ARE PRETTY GOOD.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T LOOK FOR OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS TO BE OVERWHELMINGLY ENTERPRISING, I JUST EXPECT THEM NOT TO DRAIN THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

AND SO I THINK THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE MATTER.

WE LOVE THE THEATRE. LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE LOVE THE THEATRE. WE HAVE THE LARGEST VOLUNTEER FORCE IN THE CITY, I BELIEVE. IT HAS -- NEXT YEAR, IT IS GOING TO BE 100 YEARS OLD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THAT AND LOOKING TO CELEBRATE A NUMBER OF INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE 100 YEARS OLD INCLUDING THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE 100 YEARS OLD NEXT YEAR.

AND SO, WE JUST CELEBRATED THE INLET WHICH IS 100 YEARS OLD AND AN OLD CITY AND THE SUNRISE THEATRE HAS BEEN AROUND IN A LONG TIME IN DIFFERENT FORM. IT WAS VAUDEVILLE.

THEN IT WAS MOVIE. AND THEN CLOSED.

SO THE CITY DIDN'T BUILD THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

BUT THE CITY HAS A BIG TAKE IN IT BECAUSE WE HELPED TO REHABILITATE IT. IT IS AN OLD BUILDING.

NOT A NEW BUILDING, BUT AN OLD BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN REHABILITATED. AND IT IS MISS TORIC.

AND WE ARE PROUD OF IT. THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS, IS -- AND I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL THAT THE ADVISORY THEATRE.

THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE FOUNDATION BOARD ARE NOW WORKING TOGETHER AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE GOT TO DO WE NEED TO SAY WE ARE DOING THOSE. DOING THIS AND DOING THAT.

NOT GOING TO DO BUT WE ARE D G DOING.

AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND YOU TALKED

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YOU HAVE A MARKET CAN PERSON. YOU HAVE A TECHNICAL PERSON.

>> NO MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU ARE GOING

TO HIRE A TECHNICAL PERSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU HAVE A BOX OFFICE PERSON.

>> A BOX OFFICE MANAGER. >> MAYOR HUDSON: AND YOU HAVE

PART-TIME PEOPLE. >> YES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. SO I THINK ONE OF YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES, OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE -- I WILL PUT US ALL IN THAT, IS THAT PEOPLE SAY, WHY SHOULD I SUPPORT THE SUNRISE THEATER WITH A CONTRIBUTION BECAUSE MY TAX DOLLARS ALREADY SUPPORT IT. THAT IS A BIG CHALLENGE AND SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO COME TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR.

WE NEED TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

I WISH I COULD GIVE IT TO YOU. I HAVE DONE A LOT OF THINKING ABOUT THAT. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: ON T THAT.

SINCE WE HAVE YOU HERE. TALK ABOUT SUNRISE THEATRE MEMBERSHIPS AND A MEMBERSHIP DRIVE.

TO ME -- IT IS LIKE THE BACKBONE O THE THEATRE, NOT ONLY MONEY BUT AMBASSADORS TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US KEEP THAT MISSION GOING FORWARD. BUT HAVE HAD YOU A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR MARKETING PLAN ON MEMBERSHIP AND SEE IF WE ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, BEST PRACTICES.

EVERYTHING ELSE. ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION TO KEEP THE THEATRE ALIVE SPILL UNPACK THAT FOR YOU AND GIVE YOU COMMENT TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENT. IT IS VERY CHALLENGING AND DIFFICULT TO MAZE MONEY FOR MUNICIPALLY OWNED BUILDINGS.

VERY CHALLENGING. THEIR EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY ALREADY PAY THEIR TAXES. I CALL IT "STRATEGIC PHILANTHROPY." I DIDN'T INSTLAENT TERM.

SOMEONE ELSE DID -- WARREN BUFFETT, I THINK.

STRATEGIC PHILANTHROPY IS VALUE ACHIEVED.

SHARON IS MANEUVERING HER PROGRAM SO IT IS A VAULT YOU TOO IT. IN OUR BUILDING IN RHODE ISLAND, YEARS AGO I CREATED A PRES PRESIDENT'S CLUB, A VIP CLUB AND 300 MEMBERS THAT GIVE US 1,000 APIECE AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT. AND CREDIT CARD ON FILE AND THIS KIND OF STUFF. NOW THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL SAY TO THE MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS WE OWN, NOT ONE MUNICIPAL BUILDING -- NOT THAT WE OWN, BUT THAT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH AND OPERATING THAT DEPENDS ON THE CAPITAL AND REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE COMING OUT OF THE BUDGET OF THE BUILDING.

NOT ONE. THEIR GOLF COURSE.

THEIR TENNIS COURTS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I BELIEVE T

THAT. >> NOT ONE.

ON DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS AND I WILL GIVE YOU FREE ADVICE AND THEN YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IT WITH IT.

DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS -- THE CITY OF PROVIDENCE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT, RESTAURANTS, ETC., ETC., ADDED A POINT ON THE SALES TAX AND THAT POINT ON THE SALES TAX IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR THAT EXPERIENCES THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT GOES TO CAPITAL REPAIR, MAINTENANCE IN THOSE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS OF WHICH WE HAVE A NUMBER.

THE OTHER THING IN THE VILLAGE OF SKOKIE ON THE NORTH SHORE, 8 850-SEAT THEATRE, $BLACK BOX. THEY DO A BED TAX.

THE BED TAX GOES TO CAPITAL. AND SO -- IT'S USERS.

NOT -- YOU ARE NOT RAISING THE STACKS RATE.

AND THAT IS ONCE AGAIN SOMETHING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD. RAISING FEES ARE NOT POPULAR, BUT IT IS. SHARON WAS TALKING LAST NIGHT OF SOMEONE WHO WILL BUILD A NEW MARRIOTT EVENT CENTER.

THEY NEED THAT THEATRE. THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS THEY ARE BUILDING IT AND I AM SURE THERE SHOULD BE -- A CONVERSATION AND I WILL PLAY THE HEAVY FOR YOU TO INCREASE THE BED TAX A COUPLE OF POINTS AND THOSE GO TO CAPITAL OF THE THEATRE. YOU HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES AND THE COMMISSION WE ARE RIGHT.

ONE OF THE KEY ESSENTIALS FOR THIS THEATRE IS MAZLO HIERARCHY OF NEEDS. SAFETY AND SECURITY.

IF PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO GO DOWNTOWN, THEY DON'T GO DO N DOWNTOWN. POLICE ON FOOT PATROLS.

IN PROVIDENCE, WE HAVE HORSES. THINGS HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS A DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR BUT YOU NEED PRESENCE.

IT IS LIKE -- MY FORMER MAYOR WITH A COUPLE OF FEDERALLY FUNDED SABBATICALS IN PROVIDENCE.

WE CALL ME UP AT NIGHT AND SAY MAYOR, WE TELL ME GIVE ME THE GOOD GOVERNMENT SPEECH. I SAY I NEED COPS, POTTED PLANTS. ONE BMW IS BROKEN INTO THEY GO BACK TO CRANSTON AND TELL 100 PEOPLE.

SAME THING GO TO PORT ST. LUCIE AND TELL 50 PEOPLE.

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BUT YOU NEED TO EXPLORE STRATEGIC PHILANTHROPY IN THE MEMBERSHIP DRIVE AND EXPLORE USER FEES FOR PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FOR THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT. AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING DONE EVERYWHERE. NOW FORTUNATELY, SHARON, LIKE MYSELF THANKS TO THE SPA AND THE SHUTTERED MONEY.

AND INFLUX OF MONEY AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IN MOST OF OUR BUILDINGS WE ARE USING THAT MONEY FOR CAPITAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD SH SHARON'S ROOF IT.

HOW LONG IS YOUR ROOF, SHARON. >> 25 YEARS.

>> NOT A MATTER OF IF, BUT IT IS A MATTER OF TIME.

IF YOU HAVE 25-YEAR GUARANTEE, YEAR 26, YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. SO MY ADVICE TO USE THE SHU SHUDDERED VENUE MONEY AND USE SOME OF THAT CAPITAL. A ONE-TIME HIT AND YOU CAN WALK AWAY AND SAY WE DID THAT WITH THIS.

THAT TYPE OF THING. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I WAS RAMBLING, I GUESS. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: BEST PRACTICES. WE ARE BASICALLY FALLING ON LINE

WITH THAT. >> I WOULD SAY WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT. THAT WAS PART OF OUR PLAN THAT THE MEMBERSHIP IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT SUMMER AND TIMELINE.

GETTING THE SHOWS BOOKED FOR LAST YEAR AND PACKAGE FOR BETTER DRIVE. THAT WILL ALSO FALL UNDER LIKE HAVING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON THAT WOULD DO THAT.

YOU KNOW. THE BOX OFFICE MANAGER IS BUSY DOING THE BOX OFFICE. HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE MEMBERSHIPS AND PACKAGES AND DISCOUNTS TO THE RESTAURANTS. SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO MAKE SHOWS THINGS COME TOGETHER AND NEEDS TO BE HAPPENING NOW FOR THE UPCOMING SEASON. AND JUST TO REFERENCE THE ARTISTS IN MIAMI ARE BOOKED A YEAR AGO.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET DANIEL TOSH BOOKED IN WEEKEND.

DANIEL TOSH WENT ON SALE AND HE DOESN'T COME UNTIL NOVEMBER, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE OF THOSE NEXT SEASON.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: NOT A QUESTION AND I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM MAYOR, AND WE -- WE ARE -- WE ARE MISSING A MAJOR SECTION OF OUR POPULATION AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ASKED ABOUT A SURVEY.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET INTO ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THOSE KIDS SPEND MONEY TO GO SEE THE ARTISTS.

THE ARTIST SHE IS WANT TO SEE. AND WE HAVE SIX, SEVEN HIGH

SCHOOLS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I LIKE THAT.

>> ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO START WITH A SURVEY SOMEWHERE, I WOULD SURVEY THOSE STUDENTS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTIES AND GET THOSE NAMES OF SOME OF THE ARTISTS.

YOU WEIGH SOME OF THE ARTISTS -- I WILL BE HON -- YOU LISTEN TO THE ARTISTS THAT THEY LISTEN TO AND SAY I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT IF WE ARE TRYING TO FILL A THEATRE, I KNOW THESE KIDS WILL PAY MONEY BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN OTHER VENUES IN FORT PIERCE THAT ARE NOT AS BIG AS SUNRISE AND A FEW ARTISTS CAME BY AND CHARGED A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY AND SUNG ONE G SONG, TWO SONGS AND LEFT. I HAVE A TEENAGED SON AND I KNOW -- HOW MANY SONGS DID HE SING. HE SANG THE SONG THAT EVERYBODY DANCED TO AND THEN HE LEFT. I AM LIKE WHERE IS MY MONEY K BACK. JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I AM HEARING ALL THESE CONCERNS ABOUT MONEY.

I AM HEARING CONCERNS OF GETTING OUT IN THE POPULATION AND WHATEVER. LET'S START WITH SOME OF THESE TEENAGERS, BECAUSE THESE TEENAGERS HAVE MONEY THAT THEY WILL SPEND WHEN THEY WANT TO AND ALSO A WAY TO START THE CONNECTION WITH THE NEW GENERATION OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE THEATRE BECAUSE COMING TO SEE ONE OF THEIR ARTISTS, THEY MIGHT SEE AN ADVERTISEMENT OF A PLAY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO COME SEE. SO JUST AN IDEA TO -- TO CALL ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS AND GET -- HOW CAN YOU GET A SURVEY OUT THERE AND GET IDEAS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE GO THAT WAY.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YEAH, AND THERE ARE COMPETITIVE VENUE.

500 ORANGES ARE STARTING BECAUSE THROUGH THE ST. LUCIE CULTURAL

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SO -- BUT KIND OF MAKES YOU STEP UP YOUR GAME.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT AND THE HARD WORK YOU DID AND THE LONG-RANGE PLANNING. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MORE DETAILED -- WE WILL HAVE THAT -- MORE DETAILED THAN THIS

PRESENTATION, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT. AND I AM ALSO GOING -- I AM PERSONALLY GOING TO LOOK INTO THE INSURANCE INSTITUTE.

AND I FIND OUT ABOUT THE INSURANCE ISSUE, AND SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

I SUPPORT THE THEATRE AND I WANT US -- I WANT TO YOU BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE ARE SUCCESSFUL.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE WITHOUT THE THEATRE AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE IS MANAGING THAT EITHER.

WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE PUZZLE.

CORRECT? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY WHO CAME. THANKS TO YOUR FOUNDATION AND THE ADVISORY BOARD. ALL YOUR SUPPORTERS.

[a. Presentation of 2022 Legislative Wrap-Up by Nicole Fogarty, Legislative Affairs Director]

>> ALL RIGHT, WHILE THEY ARE GOING TO BE DEPARTING, I WILL ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF THE 2022 LEGISLATIVE WRAP-UP BY MISS NICOLE FOGARTY, THE LEGISLATIVE

AFFAIRS DIRECTOR. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. MIMMS, DO YOU HAVE A LEAD IN

FOR -- WELCOME, MISS FOGARTY. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU GOT A TREAT.

YOU GOT TO HEAR THE SUNRISE THEATRE PRESENTATION.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: I WAS TAKING SOME NOTES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: TELL THE COUNTY WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.

. >> DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION?

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: YES. >> IS IT THERE?

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: THERE IS A PASSWORD.

>> CHAMBERS. CHAMBERS.

ALL LOWERCASE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUT IN THE FOYER, PLEASE.

WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE MEETING.

>> DID YOU BRING IT TO YOU? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: NO, I DID NOT. I E-MAILED IT TO JENNIFER.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WELL, IT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: IT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA GAIJZ

GAIJZ I AGREE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WELCOME, MISS

FOGARTY. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING -- I THINK IT IS.

YES, 10:30. I AM NICOLE FOGARTY, THE LEGISLATIVE AFFAIR DIRECTOR FOR PORT LUCIE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I WILL GIVE YOU A LEGISLATIVE WRAP-UP FROM THE 2022 LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

I WILL LIKE TO SAY THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION WAS MUCH BETTER THAN LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AS MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER PRETTY BAD BILLS THAT PASSED AND PROVIDED PRETTY NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE MUNICIPALITY TO THE COUNTY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN GENERAL, BUT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I WILL SAY THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE IN OURSELVES REALLY DID A PARTNERSHIP AND WE HAD A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS, AS

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SO THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. THIS YEAR, IT WAS A LOT OF, HEY, THIS BILL IS GOING EITHER YOU HELP US AMEND THIS, OR IT WILL GO THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN. SO A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS.

A LOT OF AMENDMENTS AND A LOT OF COMPROMISE AND KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT A LOT OF THE LEGISLATION, IT MAY LOOK BAD BUT I WILL TELL YOU IT IS TEN TIMES BETTER THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION

LOOKED LIKE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS

RELATIVE. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: YES.

>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH THE 2022 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

WENT FROM JANUARY 11 TO MARCH 1 21.

AND AN ASTERISK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO EXTEND SESSION TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET. THEY GOT THE BUDGET ON THE DESK RATHER LATE DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION SO THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR THE 72-HOUR COOLING-OFF PERIOD BEFORE THEY COULD VOTE ON THE BUDGET AND THAT IS BY CONSTITUTION THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. THERE WERE 3500 BILLS THAT WERE FILED. 1700 OF THOSE WERE APPROPRIATION REQUESTS AND ONLY 306 PASSED THIS PAST YEAR WITH 240 OF THOSE THAT WERE TRACKED FOR POSSIBLE IMPACT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

THE BUDGET. FIRST AND FOREMOST, HERE YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A 2023 GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT.

A BREAKDOWN OF THE CATEGORIES AND WHERE THEY FUNDED IN THOSE CATEGORIES AND ROUTINELY THE BUDGET -- THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE BUDGET IS ALWAYS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BECAUSE OF MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT AND ESTABLISHMENT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND EDUCATION. PRIMARILY TWO BIGGEST POCKETS OF MONEY THAT THE STATE FUNDS INTO. AND HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, ON THE TREASURE COAST WILL RECEIVE $1.3 MILLION FOR THEIR CAT TEAMS. THE CRISIS ACTION CENTER TEAMS. CARE COUNTY JUVENILE DETENTION WAS $62 MILLION.

I PUT THIS IN HERE BECAUSE A SHARED COST BETWEEN JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER AS WELL AS THE COUNTY THAT IMPACT OUR REVENUES AS WELL. WE DO NOT HAVE OUR -- I WILL SAY OUR INVOICE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE BUT IT IS A $883,000 INCREASE FROM LAST R YEAR.

SO WE ARE -- WE ARE A LITTLE HESITANT ON SEEING WHAT THAT INVOICE IS GOING TO BE THIS R YEAR.

MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE LOCAL GRANTS, $9 MILLION.

COMMUNITY SUBSTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH, $1.1 BILLION.

THAT IS AN INCREASE OF $500 MILLION FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL

YEAR. >> MAYOR HUDSON: HOW IS THAT

DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE ABOVE? >> THE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE LOCAL GRANTS ARE MONTHS THAT CAN BE IF YOU WERE SUED BY LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES, THAT CAN GO FORWARD AND THEY CAN DO PARTNERSHIPS AND REGIONAL PUSHES.

SO THAT -- THAT IS ROUTINELY $9 MILLION.

BUT THE COMMUNITY SUBSTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH, $1.1 BILLION.

THAT IS GOING TO ALREADY -- NOT ALREADY, BUT ESTABLISHED, LICENSED FACILITIES CAN GO TOWARD.

AN INCREASE OF FUNDING FOR THOSE CRISIS BEDS.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY DO PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN WHAT IS THE INDIGENT BEDS. BAKER ACTED OR PROVIDE THE F FUNDING INTO THERE. THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE $1.1 BILLION SPECIFICALLY OF THE ITEMS ON THAT. WE ARE HOPING TO SEE THAT JULY 1

WHEN THAT GOES INTO EFFECT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: DOES ANY OF

THIS GO TO THE JAIL? >> NO MA'AM, IT DOES NOT GO TO THE JAIL. ALTHOUGH IT IS MUCH NEEDED AT

THE JAIL. >> MAYOR HUDSON: YEAH.

>> THIS ALSO GOES TO CASEY DESANTIS -- THE FIRST LADY'S, HER PUSH INTO MENTAL HEALTH AND AT THE JUVENILE CENTER.

CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 18, 18 AND UNDER THAT ARE SCHOOL AGED TO PROVIDE THE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS AND BEHAVIORAL SPECIALIST TO THAT POPULATION. THIS WAS PART OF HER BIG PUSH ON THAT ONE. YES, SIR?

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: WILL THAT GET TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS THEN FOR MENTAL HEALTH? IS THIS LIKE GRANT TO APPLY FOR THIS OR ALREADY FUND AND HOW DO WE PUT THIS MONEY TO THE

COMMUNITY OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: A LOT OF THIS PROGRAM SOMETHING INTO TRUST FUNDS AND ARE ALREADY -- I GUESS YOU CAN SAY PROGRAMMED FOR VARIOUS PROGRAMMATIC ISSUES, INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AS WELL AS THE AGENCY FOR HEALTH CARE ADMINISTRATION.

IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH DIVISION, THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THERE, THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING IS GOING TO THEM, AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. SO THAT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT THIS IS GOING INTO, TO ASSIST THEM IN HIRING MENTAL HEALTH

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SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RECEIVE FUNDING FROM DC CF TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS IN THEIR SCHOOLS AND THEY WILL RECEIVE SOME OF THIS FUNDING AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: JUST A COMMENT ON THIS.

GREAT. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

FOR US AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS, I WOULD REALLY AT SOME POINT LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE LOCAL IMPACT THAT WE ARE DOING IN FORT PIERCE AND HOW TO TRICKLES DOWN TO OUR COMMUNITY. BECAUSE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AND I AM HEARING THIS AND I AM ACTUALLY SEEING WITH SOME OF THE REPORTS I LOOK AT, I AM SEEING HOW WE ARE UTILIZING THESE FUNDS LOCALLY TO BE TATE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY SO THEY UNDERSTAND THESE FUNDS ARE ACTUALLY BEING DEPLOYED AND THESE RESOURCES ARE BEING D Y DEPLOYED IN OUR COMMUNITY HERE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE, PORT ST. LUCIE.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: TO PROVIDE AN EDUCATION ON HOW THE BEHAVIORALY IN NETWORKS PROVIDE. THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS BROKEN NEWSPAPER REGIONAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NETWORKS.

OUR AREA THE SOUTHEAST BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NETWORK FROM ST. LUCIE. AND THE SOUTHEAST BEHAVIORAL NETWORK, WHAT THEY DO IS PARTNER WITH REGIONAL AND LICENSE FACILITIES IN THAT AREA TO PROVIDE SUBSTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH AND THE LEAD ON THAT IS THE NEW HORIZONS OF THE TREASURE COAST. THAT IS WHO WE NEED TO ENGAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LEAD WITH THE SOUTHEAST BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NETWORK WHO WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO RECEIVES SOME OF THIS MONEY OF THE $1.1 BILLION. SO IT IS ENGAGING THE NEW HORIZONS, ESPECIALLY THE BOARD. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME KEY PLAYERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA WHO SAY ON THE NEW HORIZONS OF THE TREASURE COAST BOARD AN ENGAGING THEM TO START TALKING OF THESE PROGRAMS AS WELL AS BRINGING IN OTHER PROGRAMS, OTHER FACILITIES INTO THIS INITIATIVE AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YOU NOMAD DAM MAYOR, WE HEARD FROM THE NEW HORIZONS CEO, OVER A YEAR NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM AND WE ALL GET THE REPORTS AND THE AMOUNT OF BAKER ACTS WE ARE SEEING AND MENTAL INTERACTIONS WE ARE HAVING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND -- WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE PULLING THESE MONEY AND UTILIZING THESE RESOURCES TO

MAKE SURE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I THINK LONGWOOD JUST INCREASED THEIR PATIENT CAPACITY FOR JUVENILE

MENTAL HEALTH. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: A BIG POT OF MONEY ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL FOR CHILDREN UNDER 18 FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE AS WELL.

SO YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THE FACILITIES START OPENING UP THOSE BEDS. AND SEEING SOME ACCESS TO THEM, BUT AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT IS A ROUTINE THING OF HOW MANY BEDS ARE YOU OFFERING. HOW MANY FACILITIES DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES.

AND I AM NOT -- I AM NOT POINTING OUT NEW HORIZONS.

NATIONWIDE WILL HAVE THREE OR FOUR BEDS AVAILABLE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT, RIGHT. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: YOU HAVE A POPULATION WHERE WE ARE, REACHING TO 400,000, THREE BEDS FOR AN INDIGENT JUVENILE, IT WILL BE FULL EVERY NIGHT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. GOOD POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, I WILL BE THE BAD GUY THIS MORNING. I WILL SAY IT.

WE NEED TO KNOW -- WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT PART OF THIS $1.1 BILLION THAT IS COMING INTO ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

AND YOU JUST SAID $3 BILLION, YOU KNOW.

WE NEED -- WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BEDS AND HAVE SOMEBODY COME SIT IN FRONT OF US AND TELL US -- ESPECIALLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THIS IS ALSO ADDED WITH THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT IS OUT THERE. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE A BED SHORTAGE IN ST. LUCY COUNTY IF WE CAN HELP IT WITH THIS MONEY.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THEM BACK IN FRONT OF US TO EXPLAIN,

BUT WE NEED THAT TO HAPPEN. >> MAYOR HUDSON: YES.

>> NEXT UP IS HOMELESS PROGRAM, CHALLENGE GRANTS AND I AM PUTTING THIS ON HERE BECAUSE $3.2 MILLION PRICE TAG IS STATEWIDE. SO I WILL SAY THAT WAS GROSSLY,

GROSSLY UNDERFUNDED. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL -- HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET ANY PIECE OF THAT, RIGHT.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: NO. >> MAYOR HUDSON: YEP.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: BUT I WILL JUST SAY THAT $1.1 BILLION, THERE ARE IN DCF, THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, OTHER PROGRAMS THAT GO TOWARD THOSE HOMELESS POPULATION TO ASSIST IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH.

AND HOMELESS PROGRAM GRANTS THAT WILL HELP WITH A THE INITIATIVE

AND HELPING THOSE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: $3.2 MILLION

IS STATEWIDE? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: STATEWIDE, YES, MA'AM. SECOND CHANCE PROGRAM.

RECEIVE $346,000 FOR THAT PROGRAM.

GROWING TEACHERS FROM WITHIN RECEIVED $9 84,000 TO THE ST.

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THEY ARE ALREADY A SCHOOL EMPLOYEE AND WANTING TO DO THIS.

THEY WILL PAY FOR THEIR TUITION AND BE A TEACHER AT THE ST.

LUCIE SCHOOL DISTRICT. A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.

CULTURAL MUSEUM GRANTS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WAS FUND $IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. A DISCLAIMER HERE.

THE GOVERNOR HAS STILL NOT RECEIVED THE BUDGET.

SO THIS IS ALL STILL UP IN THE AIR FOR A VETO, IF POSSIBLE, BUT I DON'T SEE THE CULTURAL MUSEUM GRANTS ON THAT VETO LIST.

OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL ALLIANCE, THE ATLANTIC CULTURAL ORCHESTRA, CITY OF FORT PIERCE, 150,000, AND BOTANICAL GARDEN AT $41,000.

PROJECT LIFT RECEIVED $450,000. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

FLORIDA SEAPORT INFRASTRUCTURE RECEIVED $100 MILLION.

HARBOR POINT DISTRICT DESIGN RECEIVED $1 MILLION.

AND TRUE THE FLORIDA SEAPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FSTED, $.5 MILLION WILL GO TOWARD THE HARBOR DISTRICT DESIGN A TOTAL OF $3.5 MILLION GOING TO HARBOR POINT CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND VISIT FLORIDA WAS REAUTHORIZED THIS PAST YEAR AND FUNDED AT $50 MILLION. THE FLORIDA JOB GROWTH GRANT AT $50 MILLION. AND THE BROADBAND OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM $400 MILLION FOR FROMS. TO IMPLEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS $400 MILLION TOWARD THAT

PROGRAM. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, ON THAT PROGRAM. FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY TALKED ABOUT THIS. HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO A ASSIST -- INSTHAIS IS

PART OF THEIR PROGRAM. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THE MAIN THING FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY WILL BE THE AUTHORITY.

BECAUSE ONE THING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM IS YOU HAVE TO BE WITH A PRIVATE SENT TEE WHO IS PROVIDING THESE SERVICES AND DO YOU A PARTNERSHIP. AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS TYPICALLY THE SPONSOR OF THAT AND PRO VADE YOUR PROGRAM.

THE BROADBAND OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM WILL RELEASE IN JULY.

AND TO TALK TO DEO NOW ON THE PROJECT, TO HAVE EVERYTHING LAID OUT AND WHEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS BEGINS, YOU ARE READY TO GO AND DEO ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU HAD CONVERSATION WITH FPUA AND THEY ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH DEO, IS THAT RIGHT?

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THEY ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. STATE -- THIS IS CALLED SALES.

SO YOUR STATE DEPARTMENT INCENTIVE LOAN PROGRAM IS $3 MILLION. HOMETOWN HERO HOUSING PROGRAM.

100 MILLION. I WILL DISCUSS OF THIS BECAUSE IN THE BUDGET THEY FUNDED THE PROGRAM BUT THE BILL SUPPOSED TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM DID NOT PASS.

BUT IT PASSED IN THE BUDGET. SO -- BUT I DON'T SEE THE GOVERNOR VETOING THE HOMETOWN HEROES PROGRAM MARY PWHAIRZ

VETERANS. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: IT IS ABOUT VETERANS AND PUBLIC SECTOR WORKER.

SENATE BILL 788 IS THE BILL THAT DID NOT PASS THIS YEAR.

STATE HOUSING PARTNERSHIP, $ $209 MILLION.

AND ECONOMIC TOOLS $33.5 MI N MILLION.

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES, OF COURSE, OUR PLAN RECEIVED $202 MILLION. BEACH RESTORATION AND INLET MANAGEMENT $50 MILLION. ALL OF THE BEACH PROJECTS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN AREA HAVE BEEN FULLY FUNDED.

SO THOSE ARE FULLY FUNDED AND READY TO GO AS WELL AS THE SAND TRAP. NORTHERN EVERGLADES AND ESTUARY $73 MILLION. ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY, $50 MILLION. WASTEWATER GRANT PROGRAM.

THE 50/50 GRANT PROGRAM THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN APPLY AND RECEIVE 50% FUNDING 125 MILLION OF THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED TOWARD THAT. THE SEPTIC UPGRADE INCENTIVE PROGRAM WHICH IS $10 MILLION TO PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE TO GET THOSE PEOPLE YOU HAVE A OF SEPTIC AND ON TO SEWER.

THAT IS STATEWIDE THOUGH. WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS, $350 MILLION. THESE ARE FOR THE WATER QUALITY PROJECTS YOU ARE GOING AFTER. RETENTION PONDS OR CULVERTS OR SOMETHING THAT IS PROVIDING A WATER OPPORTUNITY.

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PROJECT IS A SELL. >> MAYOR HUDSON: LIKE MOVING

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: YES, MA'AM,

IT IS. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: THESE NUMBERS STATEWIDE OR JUST FOR THIS.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: THESE ARE STATEWIDE NUMBERS.

IF IT LISTED UNDERNEATH I PULL OUT SPECIFICALLY IF IT IS GOING

TO THIS AREA. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WASTEWATER GRANT PROGRAM, STATEWIDE $125 MILLION. THE SCREEN JUST BEFORE THIS ONE,

JUST MAKING SURE. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: YES THAT $125 MILLION IS STATEWIDE. YES, SIR.

IF YOU READ IT, IT IS TO HELP WITH THE ACTUAL -- WHAT IS CALLED A NATIONALLY PROTECTED ESTUARY, WHICH GUESS WHAT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IS A NATIONALLY PROTECTED ESTUARY.

ANY SEWER PROGRAMS THAT WILL HELP WITH EITHER -- THAT ARE LOCATED NEAR THE SPRINGS OR A NATIONALLY PROTECTED ESTUARY ARE THE FIRST AND FOREMOST PRIORITY IN THAT PROGRAM.

>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: VERY WELL.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: TMDL PROJECT $50 MILLION.

RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANTS, CAPITAL AND PLANNING, $504 MILLION. SO THAT IS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND PLANNING PROJECTS. THIS IS ON TOP OF THE $400 MILLION THEY FUNDED LAST YEAR. SO YOU HAVE ALMOST $1 BILLION IN THIS GRANT FUND TO BE ABLE TO HELP RESILIENT FLORIDA.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: STATEWIDE AND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT

COULD FIT INTO THIS? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: NIGHT WATER QUALITY, WAS R

WASTEWATER. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ME TOO.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: BALL NUTRIENTS AND RESILIENCE

OF. >> MAYOR HUDSON: TOTALLY.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: KEEP IN MIND A LOT OF THIS IS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS SO IT DOES HAVE A FEDERAL COMPONENT TO SO YOU MAY HAVE THOSE FEDERAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, WHICH IF ANY -- WE -- LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL HANDLES THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN REPORTING AND ADMINISTRATION AND I WILL

TELL YOU IT IS NOT A FUN TIME. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

I BET. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THE FPUA IS -- IS THE -- IT REPORTS FEDERALLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND YOU COULD PROBABLY HELP M THEM.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: ORCA. UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IFUS PLANT RESEARCH RECEIVED $540,000. STATEWIDE WATER PROJECTS, OUT OF THE $368 MILLION OF STATEWIDE WATER PROJECTS, THE INDIVIDUAL WATER PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED UNDER THAT ALLOCATION.

SO YOU HAVE $900,000 THAT IS GOING TO THE FPUA SEPTIC TO SEWER PHASE II PROJECT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, SEAGRASS REST RAGE, BLOOMFIELD DISTRESSED WATER, SOUTHERN GROVES AND DC 23 IN PORT ST. LUCIE. BACK OF THE BILL.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. BACK OF THE BILL IS A TERM THAT THEY USE FOR THE BACK OF THE BUDGET.

BECAUSE THE BACK OF THE BUDGET IS KIND OF LIKE THE APPENDIX OF THE BUDGET. SO IF YOU READ THE BACK OF THE BUDGET, YOU ARE FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THAT LINE ITEM THAT JUST SAYS $309 MILLION.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH IT? YOU GO TO THE BACK OF THE BUDGET AND IT IS BROKEN DOWN INTO SECTIONS.

SECTION 97. LOCAL SUPPORT GRANTS.

$205 MILLION. IT HAS SAID, OF COURSE, IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE $100 ONE-TIME RECOGNITION PAYMENTS TO FIRST RESPONDERS AND NOT EXCEED $125 MILLION.

THAT IS A SECOND TROUNCH OF THAT.

THEY WILL GET A SECOND ONE-TIME $1,000 RECOGNITION PAYMENT.

A DIFFERENT THEN FROM THE LAST TROUNCH.

SO THE SECOND TROUNCH, THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE TO THE INCIDENT TEE THAT EMPLOYS THEM. THE CHECKS ARE NO LONGER GOING TO GO DIRECTLY TO THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT SO THAT THE PERSON HAS MOVED AND DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY AND THEY LOST THEIR CHECK AND DIDN'T GET THEIR CHECK OR THE MAIL LOST IT OPINION A NIGHTMARE.

THIS ONE THEY ARE GIVING THEIR CHECKS TO THE ENTITIES THAT EMPLOYS THEM AND THE INCIDENT TEE THAT EMPLOYS THEM IS RESPONSIBLE TO GIVE THEM THE E ONE-TIME RECOGNITION PAYMENT ON BEHALF THE GOVERNOR. OKAY.

THAT CANNOT EXCEED 125 MILLION. THAT LEAVES $8 MILLION TO WHAT THEY ARE CALLING LOCAL SUPPORT GRANTS TO ASSIST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, EDUCATION ENTITIES AND PRIVATELY OPERATED PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT LOCAL INITIATIVES. HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET COMMISSION IN JULY IS GOING TO OPEN UP A PORTAL THAT YOUR LOCAL STATE REPRESENTATIVE -- YOUR REPRESENTATIVE OR STATE SENATOR IS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THESE LOCAL SUPPORT GRANTS ON YOUR.

WHAT BEHALF. AND THEY WILL ANNOUNCE THE A D AWARDING IN SEPTEMBER. SO IT IS $85 MILLION.

THAT IS OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF PEOPLE READ THE BACK OF THE BILL. AND I SAW THIS AND I WAS LIKE,

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YOU CAN GO AFTER ON THAT. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: I DID HEAR THIS RIGHT, OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO BENEFIT LOCAL OPPORTUNITIES.

AND FOR PROGRAMMINGS, RIGHT, AND THINGS WE ARE LOOKING TO DO

LOCALLY. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: YES, LOCAL YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AFTER THAT, THEN YOU CAN PUT IN FOR THIS INITIATIVE. AND LOBBY OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE AND PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT IN OUR -- IN OUR FAVOR AS WELL -- AND I WILL SAY BECAUSE -- THEY DID NOT PROVIDE A GRANT PROCESS OR RANKING PROCESS SO THIS MAY BE SIMILAR TO THE FLORIDA JOB GROWTH GRANT AND AS WELL AS THE APPROPRIATION PROCESS WHERE WHO YOU KNOW GETS YOU YOUR FUNDING.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT MOVEMENT COULD QUALIFY FOR THAT, CORRECT?

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: MORE TOWARDS -- I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING MORE AT THE -- I WILL HAVE TO SAY LIKE YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICE INITIATIVES HERE IS WHAT THEY ARE -- MORE FOCUSING ON.

AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE DO GO TO THEM, THEY WILL TELL US HERE, YOU CAN GO TO THIS POT OF MONEY FOR THAT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THIS ONE WE WANT TO DO FOR

COMMUNITY SERVICES. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THAT'S FINE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING FOR HOMELESSNESS. KURZ KERR HOMELESS RESOURCES.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: HOMELESS RESOURCES, COMMUNITY RESOURCES.

YOUR LOCAL MODEL, THINGS LIKE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING NOT FOR LOCAL INITIATIVES. THAT IS WHY THEY PUT ALL OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, EDUCATION AND PRIVATELY OPERATED PROGRAMS ON THERE. AND THEN IN THE BACK OF THE L BILL, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL GRANTS.

AND BOTH OF THESE WERE FULLY FUNDED.

YOU HAVE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HIGHWAYMEN AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN PROJECT, $483,000. AND THE HURSTON FLORIDA EDUCATION ASSOCIATION WILL RECEIVE $500,000.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: TERRIFIC. IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE $150,000 YOU HAD A MUSEUM GRANT BACK BEFORE?

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: IN ADDITION. BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT

GRANTS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT IS THAT

MUSEUM GRANT? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THE MUSEUM GRANT IS A RECURRING FUNDS THAT OPENS EVERY YEAR AND THIS ONE IS TYPICALLY NOT FUNDED. THE CULTURAL MUSEUM GRANT IS NOT FUNDED. IN YEAR THEY FULLY FUNDED CULTURAL MUSEUM GRANTS AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL AND

HISTORICAL GRANTS. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, THE $150,000 IS FOR THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: TERRIFIC. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ALREADY GOT IT

LABELED. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: LEGISLATION TO BE APPROVED AND PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNOR.

SOME OF THE BILLS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNOR.

SOME HAVE YET TO BE PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNOR.

I DID REMOVE THE NET METERING BILL AFTER THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THAT BILL WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR.

>> HE DID? MISSED OUT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THAT A SURPRISE TO ME.

BUT GO A HEAD. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: I THINK EVERYBODY WAS QUITE SURPRISED BECAUSE WHO WAS THE SPONSOR OF

THE BILL, BUT -- >> THAT IS I DIDN'T MADE THE COMMENT. HE DID IN OKAY.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: THAT MET METERING WAS VETOED.

FIRST AND FOREMOST GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY, ADDITIONAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF THE $15,000 OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY TO THOSE THAT ARE CONSIDERED CRITICAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR WORK FORCE, CLASSROOM TEACHERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS, FIRE FIGHTERS, EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS, PARAMEDICS, CHILD WELFARE PROFESSIONALS, ACTIVE MILITARY DUTY AND MEMBERS OF THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THIS WILL BE ON THE BALLOT?

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: ON THE GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT AND WILL REQUIRE A 60% TH MASSACHUSETTSJORITY IN ORDER TO PASS, IN ORDER TO BE IMPL D IMPLEMENTED.

KEEP IN MIND THEY PASSED HJR 1. AND ONCE IT PASSES, THEY COME BACK THE FOLLOWING HERE AND PASS A STATUTE TO PUT IT IN STATUTE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT I.

YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE 24 BUDGET.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: BUDGET RAMIFICATIONS.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: VERY MUCH O SO.

ST. LUCIE COUNTY, WE ARE THE MELTING POT OF TREASURE COAST.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WE HAVE THESE WORKERS FORECLOSURE.FOG

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: WE HAVE THESE WORKERS AND WONDERFUL A IDEA. A WONDERFUL IDEA.

I WISH IT WENT A LITTLE FURTHER MAYBE FOR EVERYBODY.

MOVING ON HB 3. LAW ENFORCEMENT.

CREATE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RECRUITMENT BONUS PROGRAM.

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CREATE A REIMBURSEMENT TO PAY $1,000 OF EQUIVALENCY TRAINING COST FOR THOSE OFFICERS WHO RELOCATE TO FLORIDA.

PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO ADOPT A CHILD WITHIN THE STATE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM A BENEFIT OF A $25,000 FOR ADOPTING A CHILD WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND A $10,000 BENEFIT FOR ADOPTING A CHILD WITHOUT SPECIAL NEEDS.

DEPENDENT CHILDREN OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO ATTEND A VOUCHER SCHOLARSHIP TO ATTEND A PRIVATE SCHOOL.

AND INCREASES THE BASE SALARY FOR EACH COUNTY SHERIFF BY $5,000. THAT WAS NOT FUNDED.

ALL THE OTHER ONES WERE FUNDED. >> MAYOR HUDSON: NOT IN THE

BUDGET? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: ALLOW THE SHERIFF THAT HE MAY TRANSFER FUNDS WITHIN HIS -- BETWEEN HIS CATEGORY WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

DOES NOT MEAN HE CAN INCREASE HIS BUDGET, BUT HE CAN MOVE MONEY FROM CATEGORY TO CATEGORY. SO THERE WAS A FLORIDA SUPREME COURT RULING THAT SAYS THAT HE CAN DO THIS.

SO THIS WAS THE LEGISLATURE PUTTING IT INTO STATUTE AS CLEARLY AS POSSIBLE. MOVING ON.

EXEMPTS VETERANS AND APPLICANTS FROM TAKING THE BASIC SKILLS TEST FOR PREREQUISITE ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OR FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO RECEIVE POST-SECONDARY CREDIT AT POST SECONDARY EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION.

ENCOURAGES EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR PROGRAMS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND DESIGNATE MAY 1 OF EACH YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION DAY. SENATE BILL 620, BUSINESS CLAIMS. THIS WAS THE BILL THAT EVERYBODY HEARD ABOUT. 620 AND 280.

I WILL HAVE YOU KNEE 280 DID NOT PASS.

280 DID NOT PASS BUT 620 DID PASS.

THIS AUTHORIZE AS FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS TO FILE A CLAIM AGAINST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IF THEY FEEL THAT A CERTAIN ORDINANCE OR CHARTER PROVISION IMPACTS THEM, BUT THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS THAT NUMBER ONE, THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS.

THE HEADQUARTERS OF THEIR BUSINESS HAS TO BE WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THREE YEARS AND LONGER IN ORDER FOR THEM TO FILE THE CLAIM, AS WELL AS THEY HAVE TO PROOF THAT THEY RECEIVED A REDUCTION OF 15% OF THEIR PROFIT DUE TO THE ORDINANCE OR CHARTER PROVISION. NOT THEIR REVENUE, BUT THEIR PROFIT. KEEP THAT IN MIND.

BUT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT ONE.

SO HERE IS THE NEXT ONE. ALL OF THESE ORDINANCES THAT ARE LISTED ARE EXEMPTED FROM THAT CLAIM.

THEY CANNOT FILE CLAIM IF THEY FEEL ANY OF THESE ORDINANCES IMPACT THEIR BUSINESSES. THAT IS A VERY LONG LIST AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS WAS A HUGE EFFORT BY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. AND I WILL HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS TO REBECCA -- REBECCA O'HARA BECAUSE SHE WAS THE LEADER ON THIS. I MEAN, SHE WAS AT THE TABLE EVERY NIGHT. WE WERE TALKING TO SENATOR

HUDSON. >> THE SIMPSON.

THEY REALLY WENT BAT ON THIS. AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS LEGISLATION IS UNRECOGNIZABLE FROM THE ORIGINAL VERSION.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I JUST -- SITTING ON THAT ONE -- ON THAT ONE BOARD THAT -- THE FIRST BILL OR THE ORIGINAL BILL.

IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE, COMMISSIONERS.

I WILL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU, COMMISSIONERS, THIS WOULD HAVE DRIVEN US CRAZY. KUDOS TO EVERYBODY WHO HAVE GOTTEN WHAT WE SEE NOW. STILL NOT A GREAT BILL.

IT IS NOT A GREAT BILL, BUT HAD THE HARD WORK NOT BEEN DONE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SWEATING EVERY TIME WE CAME TO THIS MEETING TO DO BUSINESS FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

SO ONE QUESTION. DID THEY EVER EXPLAIN WHEN THEY HAD TO PROVE THE DAMAGES? WAS IT PRIOR TO LAWSUIT OR WAS

IT AFTER. >> THERE ARE SOME TIME PERIODS IN THERE AND I WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME COOLING-YOU HAVE A PERIODS WHERE THEY HAVE TO FILE A CLAIM AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND THERE ARE TIME FRAMES PUT INTO THIS. THEY CAN'T JUST FILE CLAIM AND

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TO ABIDE BY. >> I DON'T REMEMBER READING.

IS IT NEWLY CREATED -- NEWLY CREATED ORDINANCE.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: AND AMENDED. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: ANY OLD ORDINANCES -- BECAUSE I KNOW A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: NEWLY CREATED AND AMENDED.

ANY REVISIONS. NEW OR AMENDED.

WHAT THEY ARE TRYING -- WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO FOCUS ON IS BAN ON STRAWS OR PLASTIC BAGS. IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF ORDINANCES, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

IF YOU WANT TO -- IF YOU WERE DOING A CHANGE TO YOUR FLORIDA BUILDING CODE OR YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR YOUR CODE ORDINANCE OR PROVIDING A CHANGE ON YOUR OUTLAY OR YOUR -- ANY OF THAT, THAT WILL NOT -- THEY COULD NOT FILE A CLIMB ON THAT GAINESVILLE GHAINZ IS THE HARD WORK THAT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES

DID. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: WE WERE VERBALLY TOLD BY PRESIDENT WILSON FACE TO FACE THAT THIS BILL IS GOING. YOU ARE EITHER AT THE TABLE OR ON THE MENU. SO WE CHOSE TO BE AT THE TABLE.

I WILL STAY THEY DID WORK WITH US.

EVERY TIME WE BROUGHT THEM A CHANGE OR BROUGHT THEM AN ISSUE OR ANYTHING, THEY SAT DOWN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND WE CAME TO

A COMPROMISE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT IS WHAT I REPORTED TO THE BOARD. I TOLD THE BOARD THAT THIS BILL WILL GET PASSED SO JUST BE READY FOR IT.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: MOVING ON. LEGAL NOTICES HOUSE BILL 749.

ALLOWS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO PUBLISH LEGAL NOTICES ON A WEB SITE. IE YOUR WEB SITE.

YOU CAN PUT YOUR LEGAL NOTICES ON THERE.

HOWEVER IF DO YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL HAVE -- YOU WILL HAVE TO KEEP A LIST OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE LEGAL NOTICE IN WRITING VIA FIRST-CLASS MAIL OR E-MAIL.

VOWEL TO KEEP THAT LIST ON A THERE MIGHT BE A VERY EXTENSIVE LIST, BUT IT ALLOWS TO YOU PUBLISH ON YOUR WEB SITE NOW.

BUILDS BUILDING REGULATIONS. REPRESENTATIVE CHIP LAMACA.

USED TO BE A FT. LAUDERDALE CITY CITY COMMISSIONER AND BECAME A BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND WE MET WITH HIM ON THIS BILL -- THIS BILL HERE. AND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, HE EVEN SAID THAT WHEN I WAS AN ELECT -- AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE I HAD THE MOST COMPLAINTS ON WAS THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: LENGTH OF E TIME?

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: THE LENGTH OF TIME AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED WAS HORRENDOUS. LIKE WHY AM -- ANOTHER REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION? I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE TOSSING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. SO HE FURTHER IN -- HE DEVELOPED THIS BILL, HOUSE BILL 423, THE DEMOLITION OF BUILDING PERMITS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY BUILDINGS. SAYS THAT WE MAY NOT PROHIBIT OR RESTRICT A PUBLIC PRIORITY OWNER FROM OBTAINING A DEMOLITION PERMIT LOW CAYCEED IN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA OR FLOOD ZONES TO PRO-VENT DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS OR A SIMILAR VACANT PARCEL AND E T EXEMPTS CERTAIN HISTORICAL BUILDINGS ARE HE CAN EXEMPTED.

IT ALSO LIMBS OF REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE PERMIT.

SO IN MOVING ON WITH THE PE S PERMITS.

RELATING TO BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESSES.

IT HAS CONDENSED IT DOWN INTO THREE REQUESTS.

SO MAY NOT REQUEST MORE THAN THREE TIME.

THE FIRST REQUEST, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE 15 DAYS TO ANSWER T S THEIRS.

THE SECOND REQUEST, WE HAVE 30 DAYS.

THEY HAVE TEN DAYS. ON THE THIRD REQUEST, WE HAVE TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO SIT DOWN AT A TABLE AND START RESOLVING THESE ISSUES FACE TO FACE. AT THAT TIME IF WE FEEL LIKE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE REQUESTED FORMALLY THEN WE WILL DO THAT. BUT AFTER THE THIRD REQUEST, RULE TO MAKE A -- A DECISION. AFTER THAT THIRD REQUEST, IF NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED OR IF IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED YOU NEED TO MAKE YOUR DECISION. HOUSE BILL 921.

CAMPAIGN FINANCING. THE BILL PREVENTS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SPEND TAXPAYER FUNDS FOR ANY COMMUNICATION CONCERNING AN ISSUE, REFERENDUM OR AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL INCLUDING COMMUNICATION FACTUAL INFORMATION.

IN SHORT, PROHIBITS TO YOU USE YOUR MONEY TO DIRECT MAIL THE VOTER. THAT IS WHAT THIS DOES.

YOU CAN NO LONGER DIRECT MAIL THE VOTER.

IT STILL PROVIDES IN PLACE THAT YOU CAN ONLY PROVIDE FACTUAL INFORMATION. YOU CAN NOT PROVIDE VOTE YES, VOTE NO. THAT IS ALREADY IN STATUTE.

THIS JUST SAYS YOU CAN NOT DIRECT MAIL THEM ANYMORE.

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HOST AND PROVIDE INFORMATION IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

PROVIDE FACTUAL INFORMATION AND RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY.

IF SOMEONE SENDS YOU AN E-MAIL, YOU CAN REPLY BACK WITH FACTUAL INCHES ABOUT THE INITIATIVE. AND THEY OPENED A STATUTE WITH SENATOR RODRIGUEZ WANTED TO CLEARLY DESIGN WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH PUBLIC FUNDS WHEN IT COMES TO VOTER REFERENDUMS. ANY INCREASE. YOUR SURTAXES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. TREE TRIMMING AND REMOVAL.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT MAY NOT REQUIRE NOTICE OF APPLICATION APPROVAL OF PERMIT AND FEE IF THE HOMEOWNER BRINGS THEM A DOCUMENT BY A CERTIFIED ARBORIST OR LICENSED LICENSED ARCHITECT STATING THE TREE POSES AN UNACCEPTABLE RISK.

THAT IS ALL IT SAYS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: A FIXED BILL.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: THIS IS THE GLITCH BILL.

YES. SENATE BILL 254.

FIRST IS IT T SAID WE COULD NOT PASS ANY EMERGENCY ORDER THAT WILL RESTRICT CHURCH SERVICES. NOW IT SAY THAT AN EMERGENCY ORDER MAY NOT EXPRESSLY PROHIBIT RELIGIOUS SERVICES OR ACTIVITIES; HOWEVER, WE CAN STILL PUT AN EMERGENCY ORDER THAT PROHIBITS ALL ACTIVITIES. SO THE -- SO IF ALL ACTIVITIES ARE PROHIBITED DURING THE EMERGENCY ORDER, THAT DOES INCLUDE THE CHURCH SERVICES AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THAT WILL BE LIKE HURRICANE DECLARED DISASTER. MAKES SENSE.

>> NICOLE FOGARTY: IF YOU WERE CLOSING ALL BUSINESSES, THIS INCLUDES THE CHURCHES. AND YOU CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY CHURCHES HAVE TO CLOSE. HURRICANE LOSS MITIGATION PROGRAM WAS REAUTHORIZED UNTIL 2032.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SENATE BILL 962.

WHAT THIS HAS ADDSED IN STATUTE THAT NOW MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

THE RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND RESIDENTIAL ON TOP.

THIS INCLUDES THAT CATEGORY INTO THAT.

SO THAT -- BUT THE -- SORRY, I AM LOSING MY VOICE HERE.

BUT THAT THE 10% OF THE PROGRAM IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEY HAVE TO GUARANTEE THAT IN ORDER TO ACCESS IT.

IT ALSO MAKES THE PROJECT SELF-EXECUTING.

SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO EXCUSE THAT PROJECT. IT CAN GO AUTOMATICALLY THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT THE DEVELOPER ALSO HAS TO AGREE THAT THEY WILL NOT USE SALE MONEY TO DO THE PROJECT.

USUALLY A LOT OF THE DEVELOPER GOES AFTER THE SALE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE STATE PROVIDES THEM SOME MONEY AND WE PROVIDE THEM MONEY AND THEY GO AND BUILD THE PROJECT. IF YOU WANT IT THIS AWESOME SELF-EXECUTING RED CARPET ROLLED OUT AND HAVE YOUR RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE TOP, YOU CAN'T USE STATE

MONEY TO DO IT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: DID THEY

DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THEY DID NOT DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT HUD, 30 TO 40% OF THE INCOME THAT INCLUDES TAXES AND INSURANCE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IT CAN NOT BE MORE THAN 30% TO 40% OF THE TOTAL INCOME OF THE HOUSE HOLD. WATER QUALITY.

IN SHORT, THIS IS A LOT OF -- A LOT OF WORDS IN THIS BILL BUT IN SHORT, IF YOU PRIVATELY OWN THE PROPERTY YOU CAN BECOME WHAT IS CALLED A WATER QUALITY ENHANCEMENT AREA AND ACCUMULATE CREDIT TOWARD YOUR B MAP. YOUR BASE AN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN AND AS YOU KNOW THE STATE HAS PUT IN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS REQUIREMENT TO MEET BECAUSE OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVOR BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER. BLOOMFIELD IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY

OWNER. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ALONG THAT IS

PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> NICOLE FOGARTY: THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT THE WATER FARM AND WATER PROJECT PROPERTIES THAT THEY WANT TO DO. TAX PACKAGE.

HOUSE BILL 7071 HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

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IT SUSPENDS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LEVY, THE COUNTY FUEL LEVY, MUNICIPAL FUEL LEVY AND STATE TRANSPORTATION LEVY.

HOWEVER IN THE BUDGET THEY DID PROVIDE MONEY TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS TO EVERYBODY. AND SO SHOULD BE NEUTRAL FOR THAT MONTH OF OCTOBER ON THE ACCUMULATION OF THE FUEL TAX.

AND THEN THIS IS NINE SALES TAX HOLIDAYS WERE INCLUDED.

AND THE COUPLE I WANT TO P PINPOINT.

DIAPER HOLIDAY. ONE YEAR OF A DIAPER HOLIDAY.

YOU WILL NOT PAY SALES TAX ON DIAPER FOR ONE YEAR.

BABY CLOTHING AND TODDLER. ONE YEAR YOU WILL NOT PAY TAX.

AND IMPACT DOORS, YOU WILL NOT PAY SALES TAX ON THOSE FOR TWO YEARS. AND THEY DID THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE BACKLOG PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ORDERING THEM BUT THEY WON'T HAVE THEM IMPLEMENTED BY THEN AND USUALLY YOU DON'T PAY UNLESS THEY ARE IN. SO THAT GAVE IT TWO YEARS THAT YOU WILL NOT PAY SALES TAX ON THOSE.

AND VISIT FLORIDA WAS EXTENDED STATUTORY UNTIL 2028; HOWEVER, FUNDING WAS NOT IN THE STATUTE. SO THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO CONSISTENTLY FIGHT FOR FUNDING EVERY YEAR.

AIRPORT FUNDING. SO THE AIRPORT FUNDING ON THIS ONE IS THAT IS DROPPED DOWN AND INCREASED THE ANNUAL PASSENGER BOARDING TO -- RIGHT NOW D.O.T. -- THE GENERAL AVIATION AND THE AIRPORT IS A 80-20 SPLIT. THE STATE PAYS 80 AND THE LOCAL PAY 20. BUT AS SOON AS WE GET COMMERCIAL SERVICE, THAT GOES AWAY AND BECOMES 50/50.

SO WITHIN A SMALL AIRPORT, THAT HURTS QUITE BIT.

REPRESENTATIVE PASS THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO KEEP OUR 8020 UNTIL -- 80/20 UNTIL WE EXCEED 1 100,000 BOARDS A YEAR.

ONCE WE GET 101,000, WE GET THE 50/50 SHARE WITH D.O.T.

HOMETOWN HOUSING PROGRAM. I AM PUTTING THOSE ON THERE BECAUSE THE BUDGET PASSED WITH $100 MILLION HERO PROGRAM.

BUT THE BILL THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH IT DID NOT PASS.

I PUT THIS ON HERE BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION IS GOING TO USE THE BILL AS THEIR GUIDING TOOL IN IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM.

SO THE HOMETOWN HERO HOUSING PROGRAM.

A NEW DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

AND WILL HAVE LOANS AND REDUCED DOWN PAYMENTS AND CLOSING COSTS.

SO KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE FEDERAL HOUSING LOAN SO YOU ONLY PAY LESS THAN 3% WHEN YOU PUT ON A DOWN PAYMENT, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THIS PROGRAM WILL FUNCTION A G ALONGSIDE EXISTING. AND A FHA AND A HOME TOWN HER OR PROGRAMMING AND CAN CORRELATE WITH THAT.

THESE ARE THOSE ELIGIBLE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS THAT CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS PROGRAM. SO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS, 911 E TELECOMMUNICATORS, FIRE FI S FIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS, HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONERS, MEDICAL ASSISTANTS AND HOME HEALTH A AIDES.

AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OF MIG FOGARTY.

WOW, GREAT REPORT. YEAH.

IT WAS A BETTER SESSION THAN LAST YEAR.

YEAH, IT WAS. ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS FOGARTY? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY.

WE HAVE OTHER EXCITING EVENTS. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[c. Edgartown Historic District update]

MR. MIMS. >>NICK MIMMS: A MULTIPLE.

VINCE GILMORE WITH MR. JACK ANDREWS OUR ENGINEER AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WILL JUMP ON BOARD FOLLOWED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. WE WILL BE COVERING A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT ISSUES IN THE EDGARTOWN ZONING DISTRICT.

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>> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. G IL MORE.

>> PRETTY LARGE PRESENTATION. >> BROADBAND FROM THE CITY.

YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE MOVING FASTER.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES. [LAUGHTER]

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR YOU GUYS.

I AM THINKING YOU -- >> MAYOR HUDSON: NEVER SATISFIED. NEVER SATISFIED.

[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT PRESENTATION I AM SIGNIFICANCE --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS THE TIME PROBLEM.

GAINESVILLE I AM LEARNING. >> STILL LOADING.

I FEEL LIKE A GRANT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WE HAVE TIME

APPLY FOR IT RIGHT NOW. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD A T 1.

>> THAT IS OLD SCHOOL. >> OLD SCHOOL.

FASTER THAN THAT. >> GOT THE E-MAIL.

>> I HAVE CARRIER PIGEONS. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON:

I SEE IT. >> I SEE.

>> WHERE ARE YOU SEEING IT, NICK?

>> MAYOR HUDSON: LET'S GET STARTED.

>> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

THE EDGARTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT PRESENTATION.

AND EDGARTOWN HISTORIC TOWN UPDATE WE WILL GO OVER THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AND PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT.

THERE WAS A NEED FOR A SURVEY CONCLUDED BY THE RESIDENTS AT THE MAY 12, 2022 EDGARTOWN. SEPTEMBER 2021 AND ENDED OCTOBER 2021. E-MAILS SENT TO THE EDGARTOWN LIST MEMBERS AND POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE AND WAS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE EDGARTOWN COMMUNITY.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY.

MAJORITY, 66.7% CURRENTLY LIVE WITHIN EDGARTOWN.

THE MAJORITY, 58.3% HAVE LIVED IN EDGARTOWN LESS THAN ONE YEAR TO FOUR YEARS. AS FAR AS BUSINESS OWNERS WITHIN THE EDGARTOWN COMMUNITY, 46.2%. THE MAJORITY 58 BE 3% DO NOT OWN -- 54.3% DO NOT OWN A BUSINESS IN EDGARTOWN.

100% OWNERSHIP AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY, THE OYSTER SHELL, FRONT OF THE HOUSE OR PORCH.

THE MAJORITY 45.5% SUGGESTED THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE OR PORCH THEME. THE NEXT QUESTION.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE TREE THAT CORRESPOND TO THE STREET THEY ARE LOCATED ON. 50.1%, THE MAJORITY SUGGESTED HAVING THE ONE TREE TYPE FOR ALL STREETS.

AND THE OTHER REQUESTED DIFFERENCE TREE TYPES PER STREET SUCH AS THE OLD PLAT, 42.9%. IF ONE TYPE OF TREE WAS TO BE SELECTED, WHAT TYPE WOULD YOU PREFER.

28.6% PREFERRED THE SHADE TREES WHEREAS 4.9% PREFERRED FLOWERING TREES. PALMS AND 21.4% FLOWERING SHADE TREES, $7.1%. WOULD YOU SUPPORT STREET NAME

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IF YES, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE? WE OFFERED FOUR NOW WE ARE N S NAMES, FISH NAMES.

58.3% VOTED YES FOR TREE NAMES. FLOWER NAMES 8.3%.

FISH NAMES, 33.3%. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN THE AREA WITH MURALS. MAJORITY HISTORIC FORT PIERCE.

LOCAL CULTURAL NEXT AT. AND WHAT TYPE OF SIDEWALK DESIGNS ARE MOST APPEALING TO YOU PRICK PAVERS AND 26.7% FLU FAVOR OF ALL OR NEW REPLACEMENT ADHERED TO THE SAME GUIDELINES? A MAJORITY OF 73.3% VOTED YES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ANY ENTRY SIGNS OR ENTRY DESIGNS THAT SEPARATE EDGARTOWN FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA? THE MAJORITY OF 92.9% STATED YES. WHAT OVERNIGHT PARKING SOLUTION WOULD YOU PREFER? THE MAJORITY SUGGESTED SPECIAL GUEST STICKERS TO BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, 71.4%.

THE NEXT FAVORBLE WAS THE SPECIAL DESIGNATION OF PARKING SPACES, 14.3% WOULD YOU PREFER YOUR PREFERENCE AND CONTROL OF EXTERIOR MUSIC, 53.3%. REGULATIONS BASED ON THE TIME OF DAY COMING IN SECOND. REGULATIONS OF THE SOUND USING A DECIBEL WAS 26.7%. WOULD YOU SUPPORT AS POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO TRAFFIC SATURDAY CONCERNS, AND IT WAS VARIED.

A CLOSING OF AVENUE D, LOWER SPEED LIMITS, STOP SIGNS WITH RED FLASHING LIGHTS, SPEED B S BUMPS, ENHANCEMENTS IN LIGHTING, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, NO TRACTOR-TRAILER, CLOSING OF AVENUE D FROM U.S. 1. THE MAJORITY WAS SPEED BUMPS AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. BEFORE YOU HAVE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED FIRST SUCH AS DRAINAGE, QUIET ZONES, SAFETY, MUSIC, CHRONIC LITTER ISSUES, SPEED BUMPS, SIDEWALKS, SIDEWALKS ALONG BACCHUS AVE D, E.

AND ROADS AND PARKING AND CLOSINGS.

THIS A MAP OF THE EDGARTOWN COMMUNITY.

AND THESE ARE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS OR QUESTIONS. SOME SAID MAXIMIZING EDGARTOWN PLACE AS THE QUAINT HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD OF FORT PIERCE.

HOMELESS ARE INTIMIDATING. WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON THE QUIET ZONE. ABSOLUTELY NEED TO ADDRESS SPEEDING ISSUE ON AVENUE D AND THE NIGHTLY TRASH DUMPED ON AVENUE D. NOISE.

PARKING WILL BE AN ISSUE WHEN KINGS LANDING IS DEVELOPED.

WELL-DONE SURVEY AND EDGARTOWN HAS SO MANY POSSIBILITIES.

THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 125-197.

EDGARTOWN ZONING DISTRICT. THEY ARE PROPOSED FIVE CHANGES.

CHANGES TO THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

NUMBER TWO, CHANGES TO THE DEFINITIONS, CLASSIFICATIONS AND STANDARDS. NUMBER THREE, CHANGES TO CHILD CARE REQUIREMENTS. NUMBER FOUR, CHANGES TO OVERNIGHT ACCOMMODATION USE STANDARDS.

AND NUMBER FIVE, CHANGES TO ANCILLARY DEFINITIONS.

AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WHO. DO YOU WANT US TO GO ON NEXT MIMMS PLYMPTON COME UP NEXT. WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, MADAM MAYOR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, WE

CAN DO IT AFTERWARDS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I WANT TO HEAR

THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE I -- >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A MINUTE THIS MORNING. IF THERE ARE ANY SLIDES YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ON ALONG THE WAY.

THE FIRST COUPLE ARE BASICALLY THE PURPOSE WHY WE HAVE OUR NAMING OF PUBLIC PLACES GUIDELINES THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION WHENEVER SOMEONE WANTS TO RENAME A -- A PUBLIC FACILITY, STREET, PARK, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

SO FAR -- FOR SENSE OF TIME, I WAS GOING TO JUMP TO OUR STEPS TO DO SO. PRETTY SIMPLE.

IF WE CHOSE TO RENAME SOME OF THE STREETS IN EDGARTOWN OR ALL THE STREETS IN EDGARTOWN, WE COULD GO TO OPEN CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS. COMPLETED THE DASH COMPLETED NOMINATION FORM TO BE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK REVIEWED BY THE PARKS COMMITTEE. ALL SUITABLE SUGGESTIONS WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU AT CONFERENCE AGENDA MEETING AND AT THAT TIME

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$100 PER SIGN BLADE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY.

TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE. MR. ANDREWS, YOU ALWAYS GET THE

EXCITING STUFF. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP FROM THE RESIDENTS WAS THE EVALUATION OF FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN OF SECOND STREET AND AVENUE E. WE WENT OUT THERE AND DID A WEEK TRAFFIC COUNT. USUALLY THE FIRST THING THINK THAT SEE WHEN COMPLAINTS COME IN.

I CAN GET A FEEL FOR THE TR C TRAFFIC.

SURPRISINGLY, SPEEDS WERE VERY ACCEPTABLE.

THE MEDIUM SPEED WAS 22 MILES PER HOUR.

THIS IS OVER A WEEK PERIOD. ROUGHLY 26,00, 2700 CARS A DAY.

MOST OF THEM ARE TRAVELING NORTH TO SOUTH COMING INTO THE CITY.

BUT -- AS FAR AS THE SPEEDING, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GREAT.

NO CARS OVER 55. NINE CARS BETWEEN 36 AND 40.

JUST -- OVER THE WEEK PERIOD. I WENT BACK AND CHECKED THE ACCIDENT REPORTS. WHILE I HAD TWO REPORTED ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. ONE WAS PERSON FAILED TO STOP AT THE STOP SIGN AT AVENUE E, AND THE OTHER WAS A SIDESWIPE OF A CAR THAT WAS TURNING INTO IT. AND THE GENTLEMAN HIT IT FROM THE BACK. SO THESE WERE THE TWO -- TWO STEPS. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE, LET ME ZOOM IN HERE A LITTLE T BIT.

WHERE IS MY ZOOM? AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE VIEW FROM AVENUE E. AND THIS IS LOOKING NORTH.

I CHECKED THE SIGHT VISION TRIANGLES TO SEE IF THERE ARE OBSTRUCTIONS OR ANYTHING. AS YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF FOLIAGE ON THE ONE SIDE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE VIEW IS CLEAR. THE OTHER SIDE WE HAVE THE FPUA TRANSMISSION POLES THAT KIND OF BLOCK IT A LITTLE BIT BUT NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT WILL USUALLY TRIGGER THE NEED FOR A FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN. MY RECOMMENDATION IN THIS POINT IS IN THAT INTERSECTION WE DON'T NEED A FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ONE IN APPLICANT AVENUE D, FOUR-WAY

STOP. >> AVENUE D., FOUR-WAY STOP.

THE OTHER COMPLAINT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN AVENUE D., EXCESSIVE SPEEDING DOWN AVENUE D. AND TO PUT IN SPEED CALMING DEVICES. WE LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE DESIGN OF AVENUE D. FROM INDIAN RIVER DRIVE TO U.S.

1. TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION BRANDS U.

S. 1 TO 29TH STREET WILL BE RESURFACING.

UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND UNDER DESIGN NOW, WE HAVE 30% PLANS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR THIS. WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THIS.

ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE HAD IS PEOPLE IGNORE THE STOP SIGN AT AVENUE D. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY

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MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO RUN THE STOP SIGN.

YOU WILL BE TREATED WITH A SLOWING CALM.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK IN THE DESIGN IF WE CAN MAKE THE DRAINAGE WORK. AND DIFFERENT THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT. BUT THAT IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN PUT THAT THERE, BRING MORE AWARENESS TO IT.

BRING KIND OF A FOCAL POINT TO THE INTERSECTION.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ON -- ON THE DESIGN LET'S SEE. A CONTINUATION OF THAT.

CURRENTLY -- LIKE WE SAID A TWO-WAY STOP OR A FOUR-WAY STOP.

AND THAT WILL INCREASE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE RAISED INTERSECTION TO BRING MORE AWARENESS TO IT.

DRAINAGE. DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA IS MOSTLY TIDAL INFLUENCE. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A MAP OF OUR MASTER DRAINAGE. WE DO HAVE THE SYSTEM THAT CARRY IT IS FROM SECOND STREET DOWN THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

WE HAVE AN OUTFALL POINT HERE AT MORRIS CREEK.

WE HAVE THE OTHER OUTFALL POINTS TO GO THROUGH VETERANS PARK, DISCHARGE HERE AND DISCHARGE HERE TO THE RIVER.

SO THESE ARE BASICALLY -- THE DRAINAGE IS TIDAL INFLUENCE.

WE DID IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE AT ONE TIME WE PUT A NEW 24-INCH DOWN AVENUE E. WE WILL LOOK AT INCREASING THE DRAINAGE ON AVENUE D UNDER THAT PROJECT.

SO WE JUST REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM AND CHECK THAT OUT. YOU LOOK CONCERNED.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS NOT YOU. >> NOT ME.

>> JUST EASY TO WORK THE POWERPOINT FROM DOWN HERE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: NICE TO SEE YOU.

I USUALLY HAVE TO STRETCH. >> MAYBE I SHOULD SIT ON A PHONE BOOK, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT I WANT TO DO MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT IS IN OUR CODE RIGHT NOW AND SEEK YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT CHANGES, IF ANY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE. I AM STARTING WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCE WHICH APPLIES CITYWIDE INCLUDING EDGARTOWN.

SO IT'S -- MY OPINION THAT SURVEY QUESTION MAY HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT CONFUSING BECAUSE IT'S -- THERE IS NOTHING IN THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IT DOES NOT APPLY TO EDGARTOWN.

TO BEGIN DEFINES A NOISE. NOISE IS ANY SOUND THAT DISTURBS HUMANS OR TENDS TO CAUSE AN ADVERSE PSYCHOLOGICAL OR FIZZ LOGICAL EFFECT ON HUMANS OR UNREASONABLY INTERFERE WITH THE ENJOYMENT OF LIFE AND PROPERTY. WE HAVE -- ALSO IN THIS SAME SECTION OF THE CODE, A CHART AND HOURS AN A TEXT DEPENDING ON THE HOURS EFFORT DAY. GENERALLY SPEAKING DURING THE WEEK, YOU ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THIS CHART.

THE WEEKENDS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

SO BASICALLY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY EVENING YOU ARE LOOKING AT A SOUND LEVEL LIMIT OF 60 DES SI PELLS.

A STANDS FOR WAITING AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF A WAITING.

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AND THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME. AND BASICALLY, DURING THE WEEK.

DURING THE HOURS OF 7 A.M. AND 11 P.M., WE ARE FOLLOWING WHAT IS ON THE CHART. STARTING SATURDAY MORNING -- SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. YOU ARE GOING AWAY FROM THIS CHART AND GOING AWAY TO THE NEXT SUBSECTION WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY KIND OF DECIBEL READING.

SO BASICALLY YOUR LATE NIGHT HOURS AND YOUR EARLY SUNDAY MORNING UNTIL 1 P.M. ON SUNDAY, YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS NEXT SECTION OF THE CODE. WHICH SAYS IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO MAKE -- CONTINUE TO CAUSE OR MAKE ANY SOUND THAT IS UNREASONABLY LOUD, EXCESSIVE, UNNECESSARY AND UNUSUAL. AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES VIBRATIONS. AND SAYS THAT BASICALLY THEY MUST BE OF SUCH A NATURE THAT A -- THAT THEY WOULD DISTURB A REASONABLE PERSON. AND ALSO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT. THIS IS GOING TO GO FROM THE 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE NEAREST RECEIVING PROPERTY.

SO GOING BANG TO THIS CHART, I WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A GAP FOR SUNDAY AFTERNOONS BETWEEN 1 P.M. AND 11 P.M.

THAT IS JUST NOT COVERED IN OUR CODE.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FIX THAT.

AND I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE USES, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES ON THIS CHART.

WHEN THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PROPERTIES OR WHEN THERE IS A DIVIDING LINE, WE ALWAYS GO BY THE MOST RESTRICTED.

IF THERE IS A COMMERCIAL USE NEXT TO YOUR REFERRING USE, YOUR MESH KHURING FROM THE REFERRING SIDE.

AGAIN THE SUB SECTION THAT APPLIES UNTIL AFTER 11 P.M. ON MOST DAYS AND EARLY SUNDAY MORNINGS.

SO OUR NOISE ORDINANCE ALSO INCLUDES A KIND CATCH-ALL SECTION IN 26-43 THAT SAYS -- BASICALLY SOUNDS MAY BE SUCH THAT THEY MAY BE EXCESSIVE, UNNATURAL, PROLONGED, UNUSUAL AND DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE AND PROSPERITY OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AS DEEMED BY A REASONABLE PERSON ARE PROHIBITED TO AGAIN, KIND OF A CATCHALL FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T FALL UNDER 26-40.

ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE CHART.

AND THIS SUBSECTIONS, THERE ARE NO DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE ARE NO TIME REQUIREMENTS. AND NO SOUND LEVEL METER REQUIREMENT. SO, AGAIN, KIND OF A CATCHALL.

THAT IS THE CITY WIDE ORDER MAN IN.

NOW AS FAR AS EDGARTOWN IS CONCERNED.

SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT ADDRESS NOISE AS ONLY IT RELATES TO COMMERCIAL USES SO JUST GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING WE HAVE -- AS EVERYONE KNOWS THE HIGHWAY FOR EDGARTOWN IS STATED AND CODIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE AND SAYS THE EDGARTOWN SETTLEMENT ZONING DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE FOR A MIX OF USES INTEGRATING SMALL SCALE, COMPATIBLE COMMERCIAL USES, PUBLIC USES AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AN EXISTING URBAN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ACCESS TO MULTITRANSIT OPTIONS AND ADJACENT TO A MIXED-USE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THE IDEA WOULD THAT BE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT IS, WHICH IS A MIXED USE HISTORIC DI T DISTRICT.

NOW IF YOU GO DOWN TO -- FURTHER INTO THE EDGARTOWN SETTLEMENT ORDINANCE, THERE IS A SECTION ON COMMERCIAL USES AND IT REF E REFERENCES COMPATIBILITY. SO IT BASICALLY IS -- IT IS VERY SHORT. IT SAYS NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES SUCH AS PERSISTENT LIGHT, ODOR, VIBRATION, NOISE OR VISUAL BLIGHT.

THIS SECTION NOTABLY IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR NOISE

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SO IF YOU WERE GOING TO AMEND ANYTHING, THIS SECTION MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE CLARIFIED IN THE FUTURE.

FURTHERMORE, IF YOU GO DEEPER INTO THE EDGARTOWN ZONING ORDINANCE, YOU WILL SEE NOISE -- NOT NOISE, BUT REGULATIONS RELATED TO LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENUMERATED ESTABLISHMENTS. SO THE FIRST OF THOSE IS A BREW PUB. AND BASICALLY THAT IS DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE AS RESTAURANT OR PUB WHICH ALSO BREWS BEER ON-SITE. SO IT ADDRESSES LIVE ENTERTAINMENT HERE. AND SAYS THAT OUTSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT, THERE CAN ONLY BE ACOUSTIC MUSIC AND THAT AFTER 9 P.M., THERE COULD BE NO LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

INSIDE A BREW PUB, YOU CAN HAVE NO AUDIBLE MUSIC FROM THE OUTSIDE AFTER 9 P.M. AND NOTABLY, INSIDE OF A BREW PUB, NO LIMITATION OR NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ACOUSTIC OR AMPLIFIED MUSIC. GOING FURTHER NEITHER CODE, YOU HAVE A DEFINITION GIVEN FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD BISTRO WHICH IS AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT THAT MAY SERVE WINE, BEER OR OTHER ALCOHOL BUT DOES NOT HAVE A SEPARATE BAR WITH SEATING.

SO IN THIS INSTANCE, DIFFERENT AN A BREW PUB AND ONLY ACOUSTIC MUSIC IS ALLOWED AND ONLY P T PERMITTED IN CERTAIN HOURS.

AGAIN, THIS IS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FROM 9 P.M. IT SHALL ACOUSTIC ONLY PERMITTED OUTSIDE UNTIL AFTER 9 P.M. AND INSIDE UNTIL 11 P.M. FINALLY, THE CODE ALSO DEFINES A WINE AND CIGAR BAR. AND THIS IS A BAR THAT SERVES ONLY WINE AND BEER AND MAY OR MAY NOT SERVE FOOD.

THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT STANDARD IS THE SAME AS IT IS FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD BISTRO. ACOUSTIC ONLY PERMITTED OUTSIDE.

AND THEN PERMITTED INSIDE UNTIL 11 P.M. AGAIN, YOU HAVE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A BREW PUB AND A WINE AND CIGAR PUB.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR. IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION TO AMEND ANYTHING, I WOULD MAKE SOME GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT ONE WE MAKE THE STANDARD AS EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND OBJECTIVELY -- EASY TO UNDERSTAND IN SUCH THAT IT CAN BE OBJECTIVELY APPLIED.

AND ALSO THAT WE FOCUS MORE ON THE EFFECT OF THE SOUND NOT NECESSARILY THE SOURCE OF THE SOUND.

SO THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

ANYTHING I SAID? >> MAYOR HUDSON: IN -- IN PREPARING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, DID YOU TALK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS?

>> I DID. I DID, MAYOR.

AND WHAT I DID WAS KIND OF GATHERED FACTUAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE APPLICABLE. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN NO CITATIONS ISSUED TO E DATE.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

SOMETIMES LESS IS MORE. SOMETIMES WE NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN YOUR OPINION? SHOULD WE DEFINE IT? YOU ASKED ABOUT CLARIFICATIONS.

AND TO ME IF I AM CURRENTLY, AND I PUSH -- THE PUSH THE POWER BUTTON ON SOME KIND OF A RADIO AND ON POLICE FIRE AND I PICK UP A GUITAR AND PLAY MUSIC, THAT I CURRENT AND LIVE.

BUT WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE? THAT IS MY PERSPECTIVE.

>> IT IS NOT DEFINED. NOT DEFINED IN THE EDGARTOWN ORDER MAN IN AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS DEFINED ANYWHERE ELSE IN OUR CODE. WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU FALL BACK ON YOUR STANDARD DEFINITION. BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S SUCH THAT

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YOU COULD HAVE A DEEJAY IN PERSON PLAYING MUSIC.

I MEAN, I THINK THE CLOSEST THING TO IT IS AN ACTUAL PERSON THAT IS MANIPULATING THE SOUND OR GIVING A PERFORMANCE.

A LIVE PERSON PRESENT I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO

INTERPRET THAT. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. THAT -- THAT IS A GOOD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. JUST A LOT -- A LOT OF ISSUES WITHIN -- YOU KNOW, BEING PART OF THAT CONVERSATION YEARS AGO, I CAN REMEMBER HOW THINGS WERE GETTING STARTED.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING -- THE CITY -- I SAY SEE "WE" AS THE CITY. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THIS RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. HISTORICAL RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND CREATING SOMETHING NEW. AND FUNKY AND ECLECTIC AND I WILL KEEP USING THOSE WORDS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS THOSE WERE THE WORDS USE AT THE TIME AND TRYING MAKE IT ADAPTABLE TO SOME OTHER IDEAS, MOVEMENT THAT WERE HAPPENING AT THE TIME WITH BREWERIES AND SMALL PUBS AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST WITH THE WHOLE CONDO HOTEL MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED EARLY 2000S. THE EXACT SAME ISSUE.

IT WAS SHOT OUT THERE AND IT STUCK AND A THING ACROSS AMERICA TODAY SO I THINK CLARIFICATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLARIFICATIONS DON'T IMPACT WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM OUR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS UPDATE WHERE WE ARE CREATING ADVERSE IMPACTS BECAUSE I SAY LESS IS MORE.

LESS IS MORE SOMETIMES AND HERE WE ARE EVALUATING THIS AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY SOME THINGS TO HELP OURSELVES.

HOLISTICALLY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, CREATE THE SAME ISSUE THE MORE SPECIFIC WE GET AND SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS.

SO I THINK IT IS VERY CLEAR. I THINK THE PARTS THAT ARE VERY CLEAR OF SOME OF THE SLIDES YOU HAD SHOWN, SOUNDS ARE SUCH THAT ARE EXCESSIVE AND PROLONGED AND UNUSUAL AND A DETRIMENT.

A CHURCH BELL THAT RINGS EVERY DAY AT NOON IS NOT PROLONGED BUT A RADIO THAT PLAYS 12 HOURS A DAY IS NOT PROLONGED.

I AM NOT GOING TO TURN THE RADIO IN MY BACK YARD AND LET IT GO.

I TOLD YOU I WON'T DO THAT NOR SHOULD ANYONE IN THIS ROOM DO THAT. SO, YEAH, I THINK OUR CODE.

I THINK IT IS GOOD. IT TOOK TWO YEARS TO WRITE THIS.

THE PART OF THE EDGARTOWN PART. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE CHANGED OUR CITY CODE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, RIGHT.

WE HAVE ADOPTED -- ADAPTED IT, WE GROWN WITH IT.

WE ADAPTED TO IT. TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.

WE ADAPTED AS HUMAN BEINGS AND AS A CITY.

THAT IS WHERE I AM AT THIS POINT BUT MORE QUESTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: MAYOR. >> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

PERONA. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: TOOK SO LONG. TOOK EIGHT TO TEN YEARS ABOUT EDGARTOWN TO GET AROUND DOING IT.

AND WE WANTED TO DO WHAT WE COULD TO CAPTURE -- IT IS A HISTORIC SETTLEMENT AND WE HAD A LOT OF VISION FOR IT THAT MOST OF IT HAS COME TRUE AT THIS TIME.

MY CONCERN IS, ARE WE TALKING OF TWEAKING? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT UPDATING? TWEAKING, WE JUST -- YOU KNOW, JUST BRING THINGS UP TO DATE, DEFINE, CLARIFY, THAT TYPE OF THING. WE GO TO AMEND, WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT HOW THINGS HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, DECIDE IF IT IS FITTING IN WITH MAYBE THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY.

THE FOLKS THAT MOVED IN THERE. AND DO -- THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT AMENDING.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW WHAT ROAD WE WERE GOING TO START ON. BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT IT IS FILLED WITH LANDMINES IF WE START TALKING ABOUT REWRITING THE WHOLE ISSUE. AND I WOULD RATHER BE TALKING OF TWEAKING WHICH IS DEFINING, CONFORMING TO THE MODERN RULE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT COMPLETELY CORRUPTING A WHOLE BODY OF WORK THAT WE TOOK SO LONG TO BUILD UNLESS WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT IN WITH WHAT DIRECTION WE HAVE TAKEN.

SO -- >> MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY RESPOND

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I WANT TO LET YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TO DO AS A BODY.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: BUT WE CAN OPEN THIS UP AND JUST TWEAK IT, IS WHAT I AM SAYING. ONCE WE OPEN IT UP, ARE ALL

ISSUES ON THE TABLE? >> FOR PURPOSES OF THE NEW STATUTE THAT COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON BROUGHT UP, IT IS GOING -- I THINK IT WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL AMENDED PORTIONS.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD OPEN UP THE ENTIRE ORDER MAN IN TO CHALLENGE. IT IS A NEW LAW.

QUESTION WHETHER A ZONING ORDINANCE WOULD BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO ATTACK UNDER THAT NEW LAW. THOSE ARE THING THAT ARE ALL UNKNOWN RIGHT NOW. BUT IN TERM OF WHAT LEVEL OF CHANGES YOU WANT TO MAKE IF YOU WANT GO IN AND MAKE A SURGICAL APPROACH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

>> AND YOU KNOW GO BACK TO THAT BASED ON THE NEW RULE AND REGULATION AS FAR AS HOW IT IMPACTS THE BUSINESSES A CLARIFICATION AND DEFINITION ON THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THAT COULD BE DEFENDABLE AS SOMETHING WE JUST CLARIFIED AND IT ALREADY EXISTED SO SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT JUST ADDED.

IS THAT TRUE. >> IT IS POSSIBLE.

NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU ARE

SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. >> CLEARLY A SMALL CHANGE THAT CLARIFIES AS LESS LIKELY TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, THEN ONE THAT COMPLETELY CHANGES THE E RULE.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: SO I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT POINT YOU MADE ABOUT THE VERY FIRST, WHICH IS THAT THE -- THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE, THAT VERY FIRST SLIDE APPLIES ACROSS THE CITY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE FELT LIKE THAT SOMEHOW EDGARTOWN WAS IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT -- YOU ARE THE LAWYER, NOT ME. FROM THE LEGAL STANDPOINT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES FOR DIFFERENT

NEIGHBORHOODS, CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM.

JUST IN TERMS OF APPLICATION AND JUST IN TERMS OF KNOWING FOR RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED OF THEM AND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO NOT HAVING NECESSARILY TO PULL OUT A ZONING MAP OF THE CITY EVERY TIME. JUST EASIER TO HAVE A GENERAL APPLICATION. AND I THINK THAT IS THE REASON THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE DOESN'T SPECIFY NECESSARILY BY ZONING DISTRICT. IT SPECIFIES BY RECEIVING PROPERTY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT GOING BACK TO THAT CHART. WHETHER THE RECEIVING PARTY IS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL.

SO, YES, IT IS IMPORTANT BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE.

THE EDGARTOWN SETTLEMENT ORDINANCE IS A ZONING ORDINANCE.

IT IS ITS OWN ZONING OVERLAY, BUT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE REST OF THE CODE DOES NOT APPLY TO EDGARTOWN.

IT DOES. >> MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT.

AND SO THE DIFFERENCE IS THE TIMING, RIGHT? BECAUSE OTHER PLACES UNTIL 11 P.M.

THIS PLACE UNTIL 9 P.M., IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, MA'AM. THE TIMING IS MORE RESTRICTIVE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. >> IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

YOU HAVE A 9 P.M. CUTOFF FOR THE BREW PUB.

AND YOU HAVE A 9 P.M. AND A 11 P.M. CUTOFF, DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE MUSIC IS INDOORS OR OUTDOORS OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IS INDOORS OR OUTDOORS FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD BISTRO AND FOR A

WINE AND CIGAR BAR. >> MAYOR HUDSON: SO THE NOISE ORDINANCE -- LET'S SAY IF WE WERE TO TWEAK IT AND ELIMINATE THE ACOUSTIC -- ANYTHING ABOUT THE ACOUSTIC.

THE NOISE ORDINANCE COULD APPLY. IT COULD APPLY AND WE COULD OR

COULD NOT USE THE SAME TIMES. >> WELL, WOULD YOU LOSE THE 9 P.M. CUTOFF PURPOSE JUST TO HAVE THE NOISE ORDINANCE APPLY THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW. WOULD YOU LOSE THAT 9 P.M.

CUTOFF AND WILL MOVE TO 11 P.M. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU COULDN'T STILL HAVE THE 9 P.M. WITH THE SAME

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NOISE? >> COULD YOU MAKE -- YOU COULD WRITE THAT INTO THE EDGARTOWN ORDINANCE OR WRITE THAT INTO THE

NOISE ORDINANCE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. HOW THAT HAD TO BE -- HOW THAT HAD TO SORT OUT SO THAT WE -- BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE FAIR.

WE WANT TO BE FAIR, RIGHT, TO EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE CITY AND WANT TO BE FAIR FOR PEOPLE IN THIS THAT WE RECOGNIZED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAS A SPECIAL DISTRICT.

AND IT IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND MANY OF THE BUILDINGS ARE OLD AND REHABBED AND I REMEMBER WHAT EDGARTOWN WAS LIKE BEFORE WE PAID THIS ATTENTION TO IT AND CREATE THIS SPECIAL DISTRICT.

AND SO, I THINK 99% OF WHAT WE DID OBVIOUSLY WAS SUCCESSFUL AND WAS WANTED. AND SO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS TWEAKING IS MY PREFERENCE OZ POSED TO ANY KIND -- BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIAL DISTRICT. AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RENAMING OF THE STREETS. BUT SINCE WE ARE ON THIS, I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN HERE?

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I HAVE A QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR, JUST FOR THE GROUP HERE. SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND TWEAK, WHICH PARTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I JUST -- I REMEMBER THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS SPENT ON DOING THIS AND I REMEMBER THE INPUT AND I REMEMBER THE DURATION AND I REMEMBER THE LENGTH.

AND ALL THE COMMENTS AND THE SURVEYS AND, I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF PLANNING AND A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS AND THIS WAS ONLY TEN YEARS AGO. WE HAVE CODES IN OUR BOOKS FROM THE '50S '60S AND '70S AND HAVEN'T YOU ABOUT THE 1/1,000TH OF AN EFFORT AND CREATE THIS AND CREATED SOMETHING SPECIAL.

I GUESS WHEN WE GET THERE, TALKING OF GIVING STAFF SOME DIRECTION. WHICH PARTS DO WE WANT TO TWEAK?

WHICH PARTS? >> MAYOR HUDSON: MY FEELING THAT ACOUSTIC WORD DOESN'T WORK. DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND IT DOESN'T WORK.

THAT IS WHAT I AM THINKING OF TWEAKING.

BUT -- MR. MIMS. >>NICK MIMMS: EXCUSE ME, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

THIS WAS DONE 2011-2012. CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS CHANGING RAPIDLY. EXPERIENCING GROWTH IN EVERY PORTION AND WE DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITION FOR "LIVE ENTERTAINMENT." THAT WILL CREATE HAVOC IN THE FUTURE "ACOUSTIC" IS NOT UNDERSTOOD NOR IS "AMPLIFIED." I BELIEVE THAT WE AS A STAFF CAN COME BACK TO YOU AS WE LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE EDGARTOWN ORDINANCE TO COME BACK WITH YOU FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT FORT PIERCE IN ITS ENTIRETY.

AND WE NEED TO BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT.

AND THAT SHOULD BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT FOR YOUR POLICY AND ALSO FOR OUR ENFORCEMENT ACTION. THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR JUST THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC. THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AND OUR CITY'S ENTIRELY AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOMETHING THAT IS FAIR AND JUST.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

QUESTION FOR YOU AS I LOOK AT THIS SCREEN.

TO ME THERE ARE ALLOWANCES THAT I SEE ON THE SCREEN.

AN ALLOWANCE WITHIN -- THIS IS WITHIN 197 EAST, WITHIN EDGARTOWN ZONING DISTRICT, YES. SO IF YOU WERE -- HERE IS THE WAY I READ IT. THIS IS JUST -- EVERYONE CAN READ IT DIFFERENTLY, IF YOU ARE TO HAVE -- IF YOU HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, IT CAN BE ACOUSTIC ONLY AND IT WILL ALLOWED TO BE OUTSIDE UNTIL 0 9:00.

THAT -- THERE IS NO MORE BASIC SENTENCE FOR ME THAN THAT RIGHT THERE. THAT IS JUST MY PERSPECTIVE.

I KNOW WE DON'T DEFINE THOSE THING AND I THINK WEBSTER'S IS VERY CLEAR AND WE CAN LOOK UP "ACOUSTIC." AS A MUSICIAN, I THINK ITS VERY CLEAR WHAT ACCUSE STICK MEANS.

JEREMIAH'S INTERPRETATION AGAIN. ARE THERE PARTS AND PIECES THAT

ARE ALLOWANCES? >> YES, WE WOULD CALL IT A PERMISSIVE CODE. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT OUR USE TABLE, THE GENERAL USE TABLE. EDGARTOWN HAS ITS OWN USE TABLE CONTAINED IN 125-197 THAT DOESN'T MENTION ENTERTAINMENT OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. ONLY MENTIONED UNDER THESE SUB CATEGORIES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF EATING ESTABLISHMENTS.

EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS.

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IT IS COUNTER INTUITIVE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT -- THAT IS AN ARGUMENT THAT WE HAVE MADE IN COURT.

AND THAT HAS BEEN AT LEAST NOT REJECTING.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. I THINK THE ISSUE IS WITH THE ABUSE PARTICULAR AMPLIFIED DISTINCTION IS NOT SO MUCH ARE THE TERMS EASILY DEFINED BUT DOES THAT DISTINCTION WORK FOR MAINTAINING THE PEACE AND ENJOYMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO ALLOWING BUSINESS OWNERS TO OPERATE.

DOES THE EARNINGS WORK FOR MAINTAINING THAT BALANCE.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSION.

THIS IS MY TAKE ON THIS. I AS A PRACTICING ATTORNEY, I DON'T THINK THIS ORDINANCE WILL SURVIVE A COURT CHALLENGE AS HOW IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. I DON'T HAVE A I DIDN'T SAY TALL

BALL, COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: I THOUGHT ALL YOU ATTORNEYS HAD CRYSTAL BALLS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: MISS HURLEY DOESN'T HAVE ONE AND YOU DON'T

HAVE ONE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: I DO KNOW AND I HAVE READ OTHER CASES OUT HERE THAT HAVE DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE, AND THE COURT -- THE COURT DECIDE THE WAY WE THOUGHT OR WANTED IT TO DECIDE. AND I DON'T KNOW -- I UNDERSTAND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL WITHSTAND A COURT CHALLENGE.

AND THAT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE WE COULD GO BACK AND FIX IT.

DON'T ASK ME HOW, BUT TO SIT DOWN AND HOW TO FIX IT TO BETTER SURVIVE A COURT CHALLENGE. LEAVING IT ALONE AND I LIKE TO BE PROACTIVE THAN SITTING BACK AN WAITING ON A SUMMONS TO COME TO US TO SAY HEY, WITH HE BEEN CHALLENGED.

IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT T IT, LET'S DO IT.

THAT IS MY CONCERN -- THAT IS MY CONCERN WITH THIS WHOLE ISSUE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: SO I LIKE MR. MIMS OFFER, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SIT UP HERE AND REWRITE AND TWEAK AN ORDINANCE.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS OUR JOB. I THINK OUR JOB IS TO SAY -- TO -- TO POINT OUT WHAT WE THINK -- WHAT WE -- WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PROBLEM AND PROBLEM THAT NEEDS -- THAT APPEARS TO BE SOME KINDS OF SOLUTION. AND PERHAPS THAT WHAT WE END UP DOING NOBODY WILL BE HAPPY WITH, BUT SOMETIMES THEY SAY THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN A SUCCESS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WALKS AWAY A LITTLE BIT UNHAPPY. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO -- I VALUE THE EDGARTOWN SELLLEMENT AND THE ARGUMENT BEHIND IT.

I WOULD HATE FOR AN ISSUE TO DISRUPT THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY.

WOULD HATE FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS A VALUABLE PIECE OF HISTORY AND A PIECE OF IT IS A PART OF OUR TOWN AND GLAD IT IS A SPECIAL ZONING ORDINANCE AND DESIGNED TO DO A LOT OF THINGS -- IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT SO SACRED THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE -- MAKE SOME CHANGES BECAUSE FORT PIERCE IS CHANGING.

SO I AM FOR STAFF COMING BACK WITH A PROPOSAL FOR US TO REACT TO. AND BE LIKE SOLOMON AND, YOU KNOW, CUT THE BABY IN HALF, FIGURE IT OUT.

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR. INTENTION THAT THE COMMISSION -- WE PUT INTO EFFECT TEN YEARS AGO IS PRETTY EASY TO SEE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT STAFF CAN TAKE THAT AND TURN INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIVE AND PROTECTED.

AND I WOULD SAY IF THERE ARE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO BE CONSIDERED AT ALL, THAT SHOULD COME FROM EDGARTOWN AND COME FROM THE RESIDENTS. IF SOMETHING THERE THAT NEED TO CHANGE, THEY NEED TO BE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT IT.

NOT US. SO I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER% AND MADAM M R MAYOR, AGREE.

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YOU ARE LEAVING US BUT I AM JUST BEING REALISTIC WITH ALL OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WE AGREED TO DO THAT IS GOING TO COME DOWNTOWN. IT IS GOING TO BRING NOISE.

IT WILL BRING SOME TYPE OF ACT HISTORY THAT IS GOING -- WHEN THE HOTEL GETS THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE GETS THERE, IT IS GOING TO BRING OTHER TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.

LET'S LET THE STAFF TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THIS.

I AGREE LET'S PROTECT OUR HISTORY.

LET'S NOT FORGET OUR HISTORY OF THE EDGARTOWN RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A DUTY TO ALL OF FORT PIERCE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ALL VOTED TO BRING A DESTINATION HOTEL RIGHT

HERE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT NEXT TO

IT. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: LET'S NOT FORGET THIS IS COMING AND INSTEAD OF WAITING ON THE COMPLAINTS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME, LET'S ADDRESS IT NOW AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF HAPPY MEDIUM FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. IT IS AN ISSUE NOW.

AND WE ALL WANT THE SUCCESS OF DOWNTOWN.

AND IF WE GET WHAT WE WANT, THEY ARE GOING -- THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER BUSINESSES. THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER LIVE BASS COME INTO PLAY TO GET THOSE BUSINESSES.

SO LET'S TAKE THIS TIME AND LET'S NOT WASTE THE TEN YEARS THAT MY COLLEAGUE HERE AND THE MONEY THAT MY COLLEAGUE TALKED ABOUT GOING INTO THIS -- THIS ORDINANCE.

IT IS A GOOD ORDINANCE. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS CREATED.

I ALREADY STATED, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS.

BUT WE KNOW WHAT IS COMING. WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT.

WE ARE ALL SITTING UP HERE WAITING FOR SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. SO LET'S -- LET'S DO OUR DUTY.

LET THE STAFF COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND LET US ADDRESS IT.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER P A PERONA.

STAFF, REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS OF EDGARTOWN BUT ALSO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE HAPPY MEDIUM WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF LEEWAY TO SAY, OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.

WE CAN'T JUST HAVE IT OUR WAY. LET'S FIND HAPPY MEDIUM AND EVERYBODY COMES BACK. THEN AS THE BOOR, WE MAKE A DECISION THAT IS BASED ON WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE AND THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: J. JOHNSON. COMMISSIONER PERONA J. JOHNSON, YOU LIKE LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I AM TORN BECAUSE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. COMMISSIONER PERONA, AGREE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT IN ALL THE CONVERSATIONS OF THE FOLKS IN EDGARTOWN, YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE RESIDENTS ARE SUPPORTED OF THIS INITIATIVE AND THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING IN. AND THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND ACCORDING KINGS LANDING.

I HAVEN'T POLLED 100% BUT THEY ACCEPT IT AND PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE THIS COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE DECISIONS. SO I THINK THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE DISTRICT AND THE SPECIAL RIGHTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE DISTRICT BASED ON A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF EFFORT. SO I AM GOOD WITH US TAKING A LOOK AT IT. WE WILL SEE WHEN WE GET THERE, I GUESS, AND WE WILL SEE WHAT KIND OF DEFINITIONS AND CHANGES

HAPPEN. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT IS FAIR. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT MADAM MAYOR. THAT IS FIVE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ARE WE DONE WITH THE NOISE DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING OF THE RENAMING.

AT ONE POINT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WENT INTO THE SURVEY, BUT WE WERE TALKING OF USING THE ORIGINAL STREET NAMES OF EDGARTOWN. THE HISTORIC STREET NAMES.

IT WASN'T. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: TREE

NAMES. >> MAYOR HUDSON: SOME ARE TREE NAMES. SOME ARE NOT.

SALEEN.3 IT WAS NAMED OF A THE DAUGHTER OF THE PERSON WHO PLATTED IT. ANYWAY, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT

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THAT, RIGHT? >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: RIGHT.

I REMEMBER THAT. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I THINK FOLKS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED.

A FEW DO NOT. THEY LIKE WHERE IT IS NOW.

BUT I WOULD NOT BE REMISS IF I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT. BUT I KNOW THERE WAS A STRONGER SUPPORT FOR GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL NAMES OF EDGARTOWN.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: CEDAR RE D REMAINED.

ANY OTHER THING -- YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: I HAVE ONE THING. JACK, YOU SPOKE OF THE FOUR-WAY STOP AND I AGREE WITH THAT. HAVE YOU EVER -- YOU ARE ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. AND YOU TURN CONTINUE TO E AND YOU HEAD TOWARD SECOND STREET, AND ONE AT TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN TO GO TO DOWNTOWN. YOU ARE BEHIND A BUILDING THAT IS ALMOST OUT TO THE FRONT OF THE STREET.

THEN YOU GOT THE TRANSMISSION POLE THERE AND I HAVE MADE A MENTAL NOTE OF THAT OVER THE YEARS ESPECIALLY WHEN PNC WAS IN THERE. EVERYBODY USES THAT PARKING LOT.

YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS COMING DOWN SECOND STREET.

YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT UNTIL ABOUT 30 FEET IN FRONT OF BUT.

AND I AM JUST GOING TO SAY IF YOU CAN GET TO THAT POINT, SIT AT THAT INTERSECTION FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AND TAKE A LOOK.

AND YOU WILL SEE HOW -- HOW YOU HAVE TO EASE YOUR VEHICLE OUT A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT, AND A LITTLE BIT, MAKING SURE AND Y PRAYING THAT NOBODY IS TRAVELING FASTER.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: HEADING WEST ON E?

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: HEADED EAST ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVER AND TAKE THE LEFT TO GO DOWNTOWN AND A HOUSE BUILT ALL THE WAY OUT ON THE CORNER AND YOU HAVE THESE -- THESE ARE BIG TRANSMISSION POLES THAT GO ACROSS -- THAT HELP LEAD TO GO ACROSS THE WATER.

AND THEY ARE FOUR FEET IN DIAMETER.

THEY ARE HUMONGOUS. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: SOMEBODY PARKED ON THE ON-STREET PARKING.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU CAN'T SEE.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I DON'T WANT TO PICK ON JACK EITHER BUT SINCE PERONA BROUGHT IT UP.

>> A LITTLE BIT PAST THE STOP -- >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU GO BACK BEHIND THAT YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS COMING.

I MADE IT A PERSONAL NOTE FOR YEARS THAT SOME DAYS WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE AND ADDRESS THIS SITUATION.

I AM JUST SAYING TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, IF YOU WILL, AND SEE IF THAT HAS ANY -- ANY BASIS TO BE ABLE TO RECONSIDER THAT I E

ISSUE. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE SPEED. AND THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I WA CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT.

IF YOU HAVE EXCESS SPEED, THE 5 85TH PERCENTILE WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE SPEED LIMIT AND WHAT IT IS KIND OF DESIGNED FOR.

27 MILES PER HOUR. SO THE SPEED IS RELATIVELY DOWN.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: I HEAR YOU.

I AM SAYING GO -- GO MAKE THAT LITTLE TREK AND SEE HOW COMFORTABLE YOU FEET ENTERING THAT ROADWAY RIGHT THERE BUT I

GET IT. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: TO ADD TO THAT AND JACK, I AM NOT GOING TO PICK ON YOU BUT -- IF WE THINK OF THE FUTURE OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH DOWNTOWN KINGS LANDING DEVELOPS. IN ROAD APPLICATION AND TRYING TO. THE QUESTION FROM THE ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, AND NEW DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN LIKE KINGS LANDING THAT WILL TAKE SECOND STREET AS THEIR ROUTE OF CHOICE. WHEN YOU RUN THE TRAFFIC MODEL, SO MANY WILL TAKE SECOND STREET TO GO DOWNTOWN FROM SEAWAY DRIVE. SHOULD WE BE THINKING OF THAT FROM THAT SPECK IN ADDITION TO THE SATURDAY ASPECTS? SHOULD WE PUT SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES.

TOP STOP SIGNS ARE NOT TRAFFIC CALMING.

YOU TOLD ME THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

BUT SHOULD WE THINK OF THE INTERSECTION ITSELF OR TRAFFIC CALMING OR A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AS WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE IS MY

QUESTION TO YOU. >> I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER. BUT WE WANT TO DISCOURAGE THE USE OF THIS AS A -- THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE WANT TO DISCOURAGE THE TRAFFIC ON THIS.

WE NEED TO GO TO INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

MAKE IT MORE BETTER SUITED FOR THIS.

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>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THAT'S WHY I AM LOOKING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE TOO. ADDITION TO THE COMMISSIONER PERONA. I HAVE DONE IT FIVE TIMES IN A ROW IN A GIVEN DAY TO SEE WHO PARKS IN THIS PARKING SPACES.

I CHANGE MY MOVEMENT AND THE WHAT IFS AS OUR CORE IS DEVELOPED DOWNTOWN. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ALTERNATIVES EVEN THOUGH IT -- IT COSTS MONEY TO DO. YOU KNOW AVENUE D IS NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP, I AM SURE. THAT IS OKAY.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I PERSONALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS PERHAPS BEHIND THE REQUEST -- THE SPEEDING -- WHEN COMING ACROSS U.S. 1 HEADED EAST ON AVENUE D, THAT PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY, I THINK, TO GO FAST ARE AND GO OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK. I THINK THAT IS KIND OF KIND OF A PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

SEVERAL TRAFFIC CALMING THINGS ALREADY LIKE A RAILROAD TRACK AND A VERY HIGH -- HIGH LEVEL BUMP.

SO. >> I THINK THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING RAISED INTERSECTION ON D AND SECOND STREET, IT JUST BRINGS MORE ATTENTION TO YOUR SURROUNDINGS AND TENDS TO SLOW YOU DOWN. IT REALLY DOES.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: IT'S ME.

I WILL TAKE YOU HAVE A MY CAMP COMMISSIONER PERONA HAT, MADAM MAYOR AND PUT BACK ON MY ATTORNEY HAT.

WE HAVE NOW HEARD FROM TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE SAID THERE IS A PROBLEM AT -- COMING YOU HAVE A OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND TRYING MAKE THE LEFT TURN TO SECOND STREET ON AVENUE E.

RIGHT COMMISSIONER PERONA, APPLICANT AVENUE E.

NOW WE HAVE PUBLIC RECORD THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM TRYING TO MAKE THAT TURN. I AM ASKING YOU TO, AGAIN, JUST LOOK AND SEE IF ANYBODY CAN BE DONE.

IT IS A WARNING SIGN TO PUT UP TO SAY --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: NO LEFT TURN. HOW ABOUT THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: WHATEVER WE CAN DO -- WHATEVER WE CAN DO, A WARNING SIGN, YOU KNOW, CAUTION SIGN, LOOK, WHATEVER THAT WE CAN DO THERE -- WE CAN DO THERE JUST SAY WE HEARD IT. AND WE ADDRESSED IT.

SO JUST IN CASE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE SPEED, JUST IN CASE -- ONE DAY SOMEBODY WILL BE GOING 37 INSTEAD OF YOUR 27.

AND YOU DO HAVE AN ACCIDENT. YOU KNOW, ATTORNEY LIKE ME GO BACK AND LOOK AT RECORDS, LOOK AT EVERYTHING AT A ACCIDENT.

AND HERE IT IS. I AM JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.

I AM TRYING TO PROTECT FORT PIERCE.

HERE IT IS. THEY TALKED ABOUT IT TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO. AND NOTHING HANDS.

SO EVEN IF YOU GO OUT AND COME BACK TO ME AND SAY COMMISSIONER PERONA GAINES, I LOOKED AT IT. I SAT THERE FOR TWO WEEKS.

AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IT SHOWS WE DID SOMETHING.

I AM ASKING THAT THAT BE DONE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMS.

>>NICK MIMMS: PLEASE DON'T TEEN IT.

IT IS CLEARLY ESTABLISHED THERE IS A CONCERN WITH THE CITY COMMISSION AND I BELIEVE OUR RESIDENT ATTORNEY HAVE BROUGHT IT TO OUR UNDERSTANDING. WE WILL CONDUCT A SITE DISTANCE INVESTIGATION LED BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

WE WILL GET BACK YOU TWO A REPORT OF SUCH.

IF THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, WE SHALL MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IF FINANCIALLY

FEASIBLE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MR. MIMS, NOT EVEN -- EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT AND YOUR SITE SURVEY SAYS WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING, JUST FILE THAT REPORT.

AND I THINK WE ARE COVERED, AND THING -- LOOKING AT ME AND I MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE. I MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE, BUT THAT GIVES HER SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.

I AM JUST TRYING -- I CAN'T SIT UP HERE -- I CAN'T SIT UP HERE.

I WILL BE DOING THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE CITY AS IT IS ABOUT SAFETY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT, YEAH. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA J. JOHNSON.

WE ARE TRYING TO -- WE WILL TRY TO MAKE YOU THE LAST ONE OR THE TWO TROUBLE MAKERS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I WILL SAY IT IN TWO PARTS.

I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, COMMISSIONER GAINES, AND WE HAVE A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL WHO SAID HE EVALUATED IT ON RECORD, HE EVALUATED AND MADE HIS PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE TWO LAYPEOPLE HAVE SAID, ME AND HIM, COMMISSIONER PERONA THAT IS -- THE DEFINITION OF HIM.

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I HAVE GOT A CITY MANAGER THAT TELLS US THEY WILL DO AN APPLICATION OF LOOKING AT THE SIGHT ANGLE.

WE FOLLOWING THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS AND I TRUST THEM WITH WHAT THEY SAY. ANYWAY, THAT WAS ON THE RECORD.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: DOING A LOT OF CLEANUP HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: IN ADDITION TO THAT.

I AM ENCOURAGED WITH THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROPOSED AND BIG DISCUSSING A YEAR AGO AND RESIDENTS HAVE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD IN COMMUNICATION AND THANK YOU, JACK, BRINGING THAT FORWARD AND LOOKING AT DRAINAGE MAP.

LOOKS LIKE SOME AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT ARE WELL DESERVED AND WELL NEEDED AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF AVENUE D OR WHATEVER ITS NAME. DON'T IMAGINE HOW IT WAS LAID OUT, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THAT NAME SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE IN A PUBLIC PROCESS -- OR SOME KIND OF A PUBLIC INSPECTING PROCESS.

BY APPRECIATE THAT OPINION THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WE WILL WIND THIS TOPIC UP UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING BURNING TO SAY, GENTLEMEN.

ALL RIGHTY, MR. MIMS. >>NICK MIMMS: WE DID HAVE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WERE PROPOSE TO BE ENACTED BY OUR PLANNING AND ZONING GROUP. IN ADDITION THE RENAMING, I HAVE HEARD IN THE AFFIRM I HAVE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CALL OR ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

AND ALSO WILL BE LOOKING AT THE EDGARTOWN ZONING DISTRICT WITH LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AS RELATED TO NOISE ORDINANCE.

I THINK THAT BASICALLY COMPLETES IT.

I THINK JACK IS MOVING FORWARD WITH HIS DESIGN OF AVENUE D AND ALSO WILL DO SOME INVESTIGATION INTO THE SAFETY OF SECOND STREET AND AVENUE E. DOES THAT COVER THE SPEED BACK THINK THAT RECEIVED TODAY? ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY. MOVING ON.

[d. Discussion regarding a request to rename Pinewood Park]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE

REQUEST TO RENAME PINEWOOD PARK. >> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS.

>> WE LOOK -- WE ARE THE SAME AGE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR AN COMMISSIONERS, I BELIEVE THE

REST OF THE AGENDA IS MINE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WELL, LUCKY US. WITH US TODAY IS DR. SUSAN HAWMINGBURGER THE CHAIR OF THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND WE ARE THERE LOOK AT AN SUBMISSION TO RENAME PINEWOOD PARK TO THE BONNIE DUNN PARK. IT WAS UNSOLICITED AND WE ARE BRINGING IT BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: DO YOU HAVE ANY PRESENTATION?

>> NO PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE ONE NEWSPAPER NATURAL

WAS ALSO. >> MAYOR HUDSON: IS SHE PART OF

YOUR PRESENTATION? >> NO MA'AM.

>> WE THOUGHT WE WERE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.

>> AT THE END OF THE MEETING THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. HERE IS IN AN ARTICLE IN THE ST.

LUCIE TRIBUNE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THAT WAS IN THE ATTACHMENT ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE A DISCUSSION?

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I HAVE A QUESTION.

JUST GOES TO THE HISTORY OF THE PARK ITSELF, PINEWOOD PARK.

DO WE KNOW WHERE THAT NAME CAME FROM?

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I DO NOT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I AM GOING TO SAY -- I AM GOING TO GUESS.

A SUBDIVISION CALLED PINEWOOD ESTATES.

A VERY OLD SUBDIVISION. A VERY OLD SUBDIVISION IN FORT PIERCE THAT WENT WEST OF U.S. 1. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PINEWOOD PARK WAS NAMED BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE OF THAT SUBDIVISION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU MR. REALS? HAVE YOU MADE A STUDY OF ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS?

>> WE ARE WORKING ON IT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WE ARE WORKING

ON IT. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND I LOVE THE REQUEST AND THE IDEA BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT PRESERVING HISTORY AND/OR LOOKING AT PARTS AND PIECES OF OUR CITY THAT ARE HISTORIC IN NATURE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL BE VERY INTERESTED IN VERIFYING THAT I AM RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: FOR ME IT IS, ABSOLUTELY.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE

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AND RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HOUSE HE GREW UP IN.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS SO THAT THE PEOPLE LISTENING CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS SO THEY KNOW IF THEY NEED TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO.

AND I HAD THE REQUEST FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE IN HIS FAMILY TO RENAME THAT PARK OVER YOU HAVE A OF 29 TH STREET PIONEER PARK AFTER HIM RUFUS ALEXANDER AND A GREAT THING TO DO. WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WOULD YOU KNOW WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IF IT IS APPROPRIATE NOW. IF NOT, I CAN ASK THAT AT ANOTHER TIME AND ASK AT THAT BOARD AT ANOTHER TIME.

I AM CURIOUS OF THE PROCESS AND I ALSO, TOO, WOULD WANT TO KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND THE PINEWOOD BECAUSE JUST LIKE I WOULD TELL THEM ABOUT THE POOH PIONEER K PARK.

IF WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP HISTORY, I DON'T WANT TO REPLACE HISTORY. SO I UNDERSTAND -- IF YOU WANT TO RENAME SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO KNOW -- BECAUSE HIS REQUESTS

REGARDING ANOTHER PARK. >> MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER GAINES.

MORE THAN ONE WAY TO DO THIS. FOLKS CAN COME FORWARD LIKE THE DUNN FAMILY HAS AND MADE AN APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED.

ALSO THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS.

THE RENAMING OF PIONEER PARK HAS BEEN VETTED AND COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION BOARD DISCUSSION. AND THAT WILL BE THE PROCESS ON

HOW TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THANK

YOU. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WE HAVE JUST -- IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WE CAME UP WITH A PROCES.

AND THERE ARE VARIOUS STEPS. YEAH.

AND WE DID GO THROUGH THAT ABOUT PIONEER PARK.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, COMMISSION HER IN OKAY. I READ THE BACK-UP AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASON BEHIND THIS IS THE MISSION OF THE PERSON NAMED WAS TO FEED THE HOMELESS.

AND THIS WAS A PERSONAL MISSION AND SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS WELL KNOWN FOR AND LIVED IN STEWART, I BELIEVE.

BUT CAME TO PINEWOOD PARK AND CAME THE HARMLESS.

AND I DOCTOR I AM SAYING THIS -- BECAUSE I READ THE BACK-UP OVER THE WEEKENDS. AND SO -- AND ABSOLUTELY A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING I AM SORRY I NEVER HEARD OF OR NEVER MET.

SO I DO KNOW WE ARE -- THAT FOR 20 YEARS, THE HOMELESS HAVE BEEN GATHERING THERE AND DIFFERENT CHURCH GROUPS HAVE FED THEM AND IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING FOR THEM.

HAVEN'T NECESSARILY BEEN A BLESSING FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE COME TO US FROM TIME TO TIME AND ASKED US NOT TO HAVE THAT. THAT THIS PARK.

AND SO I THINK IT KINDS OF COMES WITH MIXED -- IT COMES WITH MIXED FEELINGS BECAUSE IT IS A WONDERFUL STORY.

SO I -- I WOULD LIKE TO -- MAYBE I WILL WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HER.

BUT I -- AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHY PINEWOOD PARK IS PINEWOOD PARK MYSELF. MAKE SURE -- YEAH, KNOW THE HISTORY BEFORE -- ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OTHER -- AND I THINK RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN THIS ABEYANCE AND NOT ACT ON THIS AND MAYBE ACT ON THIS UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE

INFORMATION. >> I THINK AS THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF PINEWOOD NAMING AND YOUR SUGGESTION THAT IT IS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA IS PROBABLY ACCURATE. I JUST DID A QUICK SEARCH ON MY PHONE, BUT I DIDN'T -- I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I HAPPEN TO HAVE A MAP OF THE SUBDIVISIONS AND DATES THEY WERE FORMED. AND I WILL LOOK IT UP MYSELF WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? IS THAT ALL RIGHT FOR THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT?

OKAY. >> REALLY QUICK, I WOULD LIKE

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>> MAYOR HUDSON: AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

>> VICE-CHAIR DR. HAMBURGER HERE AND THE NAMING OF PUBLIC FACILITIES ITEM THAT YOU TASKED THE PARKS COMMITTEE IS STILL IN PROGRESS. WE MEET NEXT WEEK AND I AM HOPING TO HAVE FINALIZED AMENDMENT TO GET IT BACK BEFORE YOU AT THE JUNE OR JULY CONFERENCE AGENDA.

>> GREAT, GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS

[e. Discussion regarding implementing a Hometown Hero Banner Program in the City of Fort Pierce ]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

IN IDEA WAS BROUGHT US OF DOING A HOMETOWN HERO BANNER PROGRAM.

PRIOR TO THE AGENDA BEING PUBLISHED, THE ITEMS WERE THERE WERE ALL THAT WE HAD. AND I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM MR. REYES AND OUR CODE COMPLIANCE.

AND SHE SHARED THAT SHE PARTICIPATING IN A HOPETOWN BANNER PROGRAM FOR HER FATHER. AND SHARE YOU WITH THE PROGRAM WITH RIDLEY TOWNSHIP AND PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WHILE I AM BRINGING THAT UP, IF PIGGY CAN AIR IS SHAH AIL BACKGROUND ON HER AND HER FAMILY'S SITUATION.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: MISS REYES. >> THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED AND SAW THE HOMETOWN HEROES PROGRAM. I CONTACTED MR. REALS BECAUSE THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

MY FATHER'S BANNER IN RIDLEY TOWNSHIP, A TOWNSHIP OUTSIDE OF PHILADELPHIA. MY SISTER AND I -- MY SISTER WHO LIVES IN THE TOWNSHIP FOUND AN AD IN THE PAPER AND DECIDED TO GET THIS FOR MY FATHER FOR FATHER'S DAY AND THE BANNER GOT PUT UP RIGHT AROUND FATHER'S DAY AND VERY EXCITED.

AN ENORMOUS SUCCESS AND REALLY SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

THIS PICTURE HERE OF MY DAD. THIS INTERSECTION WHERE THE WELLS FARGO SECTION. ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD, STANDING WHERE THE APPLEBEE'S IS. A PRETTY INTERSECTION AND TRYING TO GET -- SOME RESIDENTS SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND STOPPED TRAFFIC FOR MY DAD TO GET A PICTURE WITH HIS BANNER.

IT IS TRULY SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY AND AN AMAZING SOURCE OF PRIDE FOR ME, MY FAMILY, MY DAD.

IT -- TO SAYS IT A FEEL-GOOD MOMENT IS BEYOND.

AND ESPECIALLY -- WE LOST MY DAD IN AUGUST, SO THAT BANNER MEANS A LOT TO ME AND MY FAMILY AND I REALLY HOPE THE COMMISSION CONSIDERS THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT IS A FABULOUS, FABULOUS

PROGRAM. >> MAYOR HUDSON: SO WE HEARD EARLIER IT WAS FUNDED BUT NOT APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE. IS THAT THE SAME -- THE SAME

PROGRAM. >> MADAM MAYOR, DO NOT BELIEVE SO. BUT INTERNALLY WE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT AND OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS ARE VETERANS PARK.

14 LIGHT ASSEMBLIES LOCATED WITHIN CAMP VETERANS PARK THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR THESE.

ONE THINGS TO CONSIDER -- AND SOMETHING THAT I DISCUSSED WITH PEGGY. HER FAMILY PURCHASE THIS BANNER AND IT STAY OUT YEAR ROUND. OTHER PROGRAMS FOR MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERAN'S DAY. AND WE WANTED TO GET BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND HAVE DIALOGUE TO SEE IF IT WAS SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION, COMPILE DRAFT PROGRAM. FROM THE STAFF SIDE, WE LIKE WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE A GREAT INITIATIVE TO START. OUR IDEA WAS VETERANS PARK AND IT CAN BRANCH OUT AND GO ANYWHERE IN THE CITY FOR ALL THE MAIN ROADS IN MY TOWNSHIP WILL HAVE THIS.

ALONG OKEECHOBEE. ALONG U.S.

ALL THE MAIN CORRIDORS. YOU DON'T GET TO PICK WHERE IT WAS. THEY KIND OF ASSIGNED IT AND EVERY STREET NOW. AND --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I WAS GOING TO SAY HOW MANY.

HOW MANY -- SOMEDAY PLY -- GO TO A PROGRAM UP THERE AND FILL OUT

A FORM. >> THERE WAS A FEE ABOUT $150.

MY SISTER AND I JOINTLY COMBINED TO DO THAT MIKE SAID WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GETS TORN. I SAID WE WILL BUY ANOTHER ONE.

NOT EVEN A QUESTION. BUT A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH IT HAND TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. AND SOME CRITERIA AND HAVE TO BE

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>> MAYOR HUDSON: I LIKE IT. I DON'T THINK I WOULD RESTRICT

IT TO VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MIND, SOMETHING THAT MY COLLEAGUE, JEREMIAH, THINK OF -- WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING HOW PEOPLE COME IN AND GET TO DOWNTOWN AND IF THEY TURN YOU HAVE A 95 AND SEE THE BANNERS OF ALL THE --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: RESIDENTS. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: OF RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE AND KEEPS THEM FROM LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES WE DON'T WANT THEM TO LOOK AT.

BECAUSE THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE BANNER.

WE ARE TALKING OF HISTORY. WE GOT AWARDED THE MUSEUM.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO MUCH ANY OF THE KRP THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT WE CAN DO THIS PROJECT AND I LIKE

THIS IDEA. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I DO TOO.

YES, SIR? >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: WEAR LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR LITTLE TOWN IN PENNSYLVANIA, I THINK IT IS. WE ARE A COASTAL COMMUNITY WHERE THESE TYPE OF BANNERS ARE NOT GOING TO LAST AS LONG, I DON'T THINK. JUST TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT SOUTH BEACH ASSOCIATION HAS DONE OUT THERE ON OCEAN DRIVE.

WE NEED A COMMITMENT BASICALLY THROUGH THE CITY THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE MONITOR THESE THINGS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT RATTY AND TORN UP. OUR WINDS ARE JUST NOT WINS IN -- WINDS ARE NOT JUST WINDS IN FORT PIERCE.

THEY ARE HURRICANES AND THEY TEAR EVERYTHING UP.

BUT I THINK A BIGGER PART OF THIS THAT -- I, TOO, AM SUPPORTIVE BUT I WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS A PERSPECTIVE OF OUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOW THAT THE COMMITMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO ALSO GET IN THERE.

AS FAR AS RESTRICTING. THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT I WOULDN'T WANT -- AND THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS.

I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THEY ARE NOW.

PARKS, NEIGHBORHOODS, SPECIAL ROADWYS THAT ARE CONNECTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT THESE -- THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE CAN PUT THESE IN.

I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE PEPPERED ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY.

I AM NOT INTO THAT. LIKE TO SEE THE THEMES GOING ON AND THIS TYPE OF REPRESENTATION. BUT I KNOW IT IS BIGGER THAN JUST PUTTING UP A BANNER. I WOULD SAY THAT ARE THEY ON CANVAS MATERIAL LIKE THE SOUTH BEACH.

MAXIMUM TWO TO THREE YEARS. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

WE HAVE A MIX, VINYL. AND THIS IS MY CONCERN.

I ASKED PEGGY WHAT IS THE PROCESS IN RIDLEY TOWNSHIP.

BECAUSE WE FACE EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS, NOT JUST DURING HURRICANE SEASON. AND THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE B R BANNERS IS NOT THAT LONG. SO I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW, IS THIS A ONE-TIME FEE, AND THE TOWNSHIP IS THEN RESPONSIBLE OR IT GOES BACK TO THE FAMILY. NOTIFICATION GET CENTS IT IS TATTERED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPLACE IT? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DIG INTO FURTHER INTERNALLY.

BUT IF WE GO WITHOUT STORM, THREE TO FIVE YEARS PROBABLY IS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN EXPECT OUT OF THEM.

WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE A STORM COMING WE TRY GET OUT AND GET WHAT WE CAN BUT THAT IS REALLY LABOR INTENSIVE.

NOT LIKE MUCH WHEN PUTTING UP 10 TO 15, BUT PUTTING UP HUNDREDS HARD TO CAPTURE THEM. WHEN DO WE PUT THEM BACK UP, AT THE END OF HURRICANE SEASON. IT IS A CHALLENGE AND WE REALLY LIKE THE PROGRAM AND HOPE YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY AND MOVE

FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM AND ENJOY READING THE BACKGROUND AND A WAY TO RECOGNIZE BUT WE TALKED ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OF RECOGNITION OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT AND I THINK A WAY WITH PROGRAMMING AND UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN DO THIS AND MAYBE PROVIDE EVEN MORE TO BUILD UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND CULTURAL IDENTITIES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. WE MAY EVEN DISCOVER SOME THINGS ABOUT HEROES WE DON'T KNOW FROM FORT PIERCE.

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LABOR INTENSIVE, TAKING UP, PUTTING DOWN I WOULD WANT TO SEE AN UNDERSTANDING WITH HURRICANE SEASON NOT HAVING BANNERS UP AT ALL, BUT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR.

AVENUE D WITH THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTING.

YOU PUT UP THOSE THINGS AND LIGHTS AND COMES DOWN -- I CAN SEE THINGS COUPLE OF TIMES OF YEAR PARTICULARLY AS WE GET AROUND THE HOLIDAY THE HOLIDAYS, VETERANS DAY, MEMORIAL D DAY.FOURTH OF JULY. ANOTHER OTHER THINGS.

I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT. EVEN A WAY TO BRING OUR HISTORY OUT AND ALSO FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE AND THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE HERE THAT LIVED IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: .

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I WILL GIVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.

MY FAMILY -- MY GRANDFATHER AS A YOUNG ADULT MOVED TO THE CITY OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE YEARS AND YEARS AGO.

HE BROUGHT ALONG MY DAD AND HIS SISTERS AND YOUNGER BROTHER WITH HIM, OF COURSE. AND WE ESTABLISHED AND MADE -- BUILT FOUNDATIONS HERE. LITERALLY BUILT FOUNDATIONS.

AVENUES CONTRACTOR IN FORT PIERCE.

SO WHILE NOT FROM HERE WHEN HE FIRST ENLISTED IN THE SERVICE, HE SPENT ALL OF HIS ADULT LIVELIHOOD AND WORK IN FORT PIERCE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DEFINITION.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: IT IS OKAY IF THEY ARE NOT PART OF IT BUT GIVING AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THEY ESTABLISHED THEIR ROOTS WITHIN THE CITY AND HOW I AM SITTING HERE TODAY.

HOWEVER THAT WORKS OUT, I THINK THAT IS AN AWESOME PROGRAM AND THE GENERALIZED. SPECIALIZED -- NOT GENERALIZED BUT SPECIALIZED AREA TO WHERE PUBLIC WORKS CAN ADDRESSRE THE ISSUES WITH THE BANNERS UP IF IT IS A HURRICANE AND YOU HAVE A 95 WITH THREE OR FOUR POLES. AND YOU LOOK AT THE AREA WHERE THE SPEED IS INCREASED AND WON'T BE RECOGNIZED BECAUSE 45 TO 50 MILES PER HOUR YOU HAVE A. I WON'T CATCH A BANNER, BUT IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, I AM GOING TO SEE IT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: GOING SLOW THROUGH EDGARTOWN, WE WILL SEE A BANNER. ANYTHING ELSE?

YOU GOT DIRECTION? >> YES, MA'AM, I THINK WE ARE

GOOD. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU,

[f. Reconstruction of Jaycee Park]

PEGGY, FOR SHARING IT WITH US. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE

RECONSTRUCTION OF JAYCEE PARK. >> MAYOR HUDSON: IS THAT YOU, TOO, MR. REALS? THIS IS YOUR SHOW, ISN'T IT.

>> I'M HERE FOR THE DURATION. >> I SAVED DENNIS FROM TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES EARLIER AND NOW I HAVE MY OWN.

>> IS IT ATTACHED TO THE PROGRAM OR THE AGENDA?

>> YES, IT IS. >> YOU MAY HAVE TO FULL UP THAT

WAY. >> I WILL GO BACK TO THAT IF I NEED TO. LET ME TRY ONE MORE TIME.

SEE WHAT WE GOT. >> APPEARS TO BE THE ISSUE -- YEAH, UTILIZE THE PDF VERSION. A MIX OF THAT PDF VERSION WITH THAT VERSION.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THE PLANNING BOARD COMES IN AT TWO.

TWO MONTHS IN A ROW. >> 1:05.

>> GREAT WI-FI. >> THIS IS HARD-WIRED.

>> WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, SIR? [LAUGHTER]

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>> JUST BE PATIENT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: SHOWS YOU HOW FAR WE HAVE COME BECAUSE INJURIES INJURY SAME-DAY

DELIVERIES. >> I THINK WE ARE READY TO GO.

I WILL GO AS FAST AS I CAN, AND HOPE COMMISSIONER PERONA CAN HELP ME OUT A BIT. THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT, THERE IS A RENDERING OF THE NEW PLAY SET.

THE KIWANIS CLUB HAS A DAY OF JUNE 11.

AND THIS BEING PUBLIC RECORD, I REFRAINED PUTTING IN THERE AND JUST PUT COMMENTARY BUT I WILL ALLOW COMMISSIONER PERONA TO SPEAK ON THAT WHENEVER HE IS READY.

WE WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU AND GVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE ARE THINKING OF JAYCEE PARK FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE KNOW FOR SURE WE ARE DOING THE NEW PLAY SET.

THE ALL-ACCESS ADA COMMUNITY BUILD THAT WILL BE EXCITING.

CURRENTLY IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE TENNIS COURTS TO ONE TENNIS COURT AND FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS.

THAT PROJECT SHOULD BEGIN. DWLOOND ARE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO THE PARK WHICH IS REROOF ALMOST ALL OF THE PAVILIONS HAVE NEW ROOFS PLACED ON THEM. I WILL SKIP BACK TO THE POWERPOINT AND ATTACHED ESTIMATES TO THESE NUMBERS.

THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES AND CONTRACTOR PROVIDED AND NOT CONSIDERING ANY IN-HOUSE LABOR AT THIS TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

WHILE WORKING ON THE PLAYGROUND AND GETTING UP HIGH, I GOT TO SEE THE CONDITION OF THE ROOFS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

APPEARS TO GALAVALUME PRODUCT AND THEY ARE RUSTING TERRIBLY.

IF THAT WAS MY OPTION, I WILL GO BACK TO SHINGLES.

BECAUSE THEY -- THE SALT DOESN'T BOTHER THEM THAT MUCH.

AND I KNOW THAT IS THE LOOK WE HAD AND WE TRIED THAT OUT AND WHEN YOU ARE ON SOUTH BEACH LIKE THAT, IF YOU WERE NOT GOING WITH ALIMB NUMB AS YOUR METAL OF CHOICE, YOU GO WITH A REGULAR TAR SHINGLE AND BE BETTER YOU HAVE A FOR IT.

THAT IS THE DIRECTION. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA, THAT IS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT. WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THE SMALLER PAVILIONS AND GO BACK TO THE ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLE.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: THEY LOOK GREAT.

>> BETTER PRODUCTS IN THE METAL ROOF AND WILL BE EXTREMELY COSTLY AND LIFE EXPECTANCY IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH. THIS PROJECT -- TO DO ALL THE THING WE ARE PROPOSING COULD EASY REACH A MILLION DOLLARS.

LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL V Y VOLLEYBALL HERE, RESURFACE THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS. THE PLAY SETS ARE THE BIGGEST SINGLE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE OUT THERE.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT COULD BE AT THE TAIL END OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS SPEAKING WITH MR. MIMS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SIX SIX-FOOT-WIDE CONCRETE WALK H PATH.

CURRENTLY AN ASPHALT THAT IS AGED AND NEEDING SOME ATTENTION, AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, WE HAVE JUST SHY -- JUST BARELY SHY OF ONE MILE OF WALK PATH OUT THERE CURRENTLY AND TO DO HAT PROJECT, IT WILL BE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CONCRETE AND LABOR TO DO SO. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES ON THESE THING AS MR. -- COMMISSIONER PERONA J. JOHNSON CAN ATTEST TO.

GETTING AN ESTIMATE TODAY FOR ANYTHING IS VERY, VERY CHALLENGING, BUT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT ON PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT AND PROPOSED COST. HERE ARE SOME PHOTO OF THE EXISTING. AS YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE LARGE PAVILIONS THERE. THE ROOF IS DEFINITELY RUSTING.

SOMEONE USING THAT AND WE GET A RAIN EVENT IS LIKELY TO GET

WATER ON THEIR PROPERTY. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT ARE YOU

LOOKING FOR US TODAY, MR. REALS? >> JUST AN UPDATE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU DON'T WANT US TO PRIORITIZE.

>> THE SPLASH PAD IS REQUESTED TO GO AWAY.

PART OF THE PLAYGROUND IS TO BRING IN GNAW WATER FEATURE.

YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE TENNIS COURTS CURRENTLY.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THAT PROJECT IS ARE READY TO GET YOU HAVE A THE GROUND SHORTLY, AND TO THE TOP LEFT, THE CURRENT PLAY SET.

THAT -- AND THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IT HAS BEEN IN HAS DONE WELL AND EXTREME COSTLY FOR US TO MAINTAIN THAT AND THE PLACE WE

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IT IS GOING TO BE IN. >> MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION IN COMMISSIONER PERONA, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO

SAY? >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: YES, FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE PATIENT WITH JAYCEE PARK.

THE SIGNS ARE UP SHOWING THAT WHICH GOING TO DO SOMETHING OF IT. THE PARK IS USED ALL TIMES OF THE DAY SEEMS LIKE INCLUDING THE PLAYGROUND.

WE HAVE A DRAFT DRAWING OF THE ARCHITECT CAKE UM WITH A DRAFT DRAWING OF THAT. AND WE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY EXCITED. LOVE TO SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD BUT LOVE TO DO IT AT A SPECIAL EVENT AT THE PARK AND PAVILION NUMBER 5 WHICH IS THE ONE RIGHT THERE AT THE WATER TANK AND HAVE KID ACTIVITIES GOING ON, ALL KIND OF STUFF, ALL KIND OF DRAWINGS AND SOMEHOW A 3D DRAWING OF HOW TO IS ALL GOING TO LOOK. IT IS SUPER EXCITING.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE ONE AND ONLY.

FOLKS WILL BE TRAVELING FROM FAR AND WIDE TO COME TO THIS PARK.

WHAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO CENTER AROUND IS THE VOLUNTEERISM AND GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN WHAT IS GOING ON. PUBLIC WORKS AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS NOT BUILDING THIS PARK BUT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THOSE THAT WANT TO BE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I AM EXCITED. I CAN'T WAIT FOR PUBLIC WORKS TAKES THIS FEATURE AND WORK READY TO GO.

THE FUPA IS ON BOARD. THEY ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

WE ARE TENDING TO MOVE THE WATER FEATURE TO A COMPONENT PART OF THE PARK. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE.

FENCING OF THE WHOLE PARK BECAUSE OF ITS ALL ACCESS IS REQUIRED -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS REQUIRED, BUT HAS BEEN STRONGLY OPINIONATED THAT WHICH NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONFINE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT SO THAT PARENT CAN KEEP TRACK OF THEIR CHILDREN WHICH TAKES AWAY FROM WHEN I WAS A KID.

WE USED TO GO IN THE FRONT, GO OUT THE BACK.

AND NOW THEY DO THIS. SO IT IS ALL PART OF WHAT -- WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING HERE.

I GUARANTEE YOU, THAT IT IS GOING TO BE BREATHTAKING WHEN YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. AND EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT A CHILD ANYMORE, I TOOK ALL THE DRAWINGS AGAIN AND I WENT UP ON THE -- RIGHT THERE YOU WILL SEE THE LITTLE CROSS BRIDGE BETWEEN THE SLIDE AND THE OTHER -- TO THE TWO SLIDES.

AND I STOOD THERE WITH THE DRAWING AND LOOKED OUT OVER WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE AND JUST WHERE IT IS IN THE WHOLE RELATIONSHIP TO THE WATER, TO THE PARK, AND EVERYTHING.

IT IS -- THE ARCHITECT CAPTURED ALL THIS AND IT WAS SPOT ON.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW MORE

PARTICULARLY, COME OUT JUNE 11. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: JUNE 1 11. I AM SURE IT WILL BE ON OUR WEB

SITE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ON OUR

CALENDARS? >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: IT WILL BE. WE NOW ARE DOING ALL THE INVITES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THIS COMMISSION IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE STARTED HERE. AND YOU ARE ALL MORE THAN INVITED. YOU ENCOURAGED TO BE A PART OF THIS. SO THIS WILL BE -- LAB GREAT DAY. AND I THINK IT IS REALLY GOING TO SPUR YOU HAVE A OF EVERYTHING GOING ON.

WE HAVE THAT INTENTION TO BUILD SOME TIME IN OCTOBER.

KURZ XLURZ REALS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

CONCERNING THE ROOF CONDITIONS AND SOME OF THE PAVILIONS.

WE ARE BEYOND ANY TYPE -- THOSE ARE METAL-TYPE ROOFS, RIGHT.

TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T LAND FOR US TO PROVIDE ANY COATING OR REPLACE THOSE THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY RUST ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND NO LONGER VIABLE TO BE COATED. WE ARE BEYOND THAT WITH THOSE.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

FOR YEARS WE HAVE BEEN PATCHING. THE CONDITION OF THEM.

THEY ARE SO THIN. THEY HAVE HOLES THAT HAVE RUSTED THROUGH THEM AND STARTING. PRIORITY-WISE FROM OUR END, SOME OF THE THINGS ARE IN PROGRESS LIKE THE PICKLE BALL.

BUT GETTING ROOFS ON THOSE PAVILIONS IS ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES. THAT PARK IS HEAVILY USED.

THE RENTALS OF THOSE PAVILIONS. CHANCES TO GET ONE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS IS SLIM IF IT IS ON A WEEKENDS.

HER HEAVILY USE AND WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET A BAD TASTE OF FORT PIERCE IF WE HAVE UNFAVORABLE CONDITIONS AND SEEKING SHELTER OR OUR SHELTER IS NOT IN THE BEST CONDITION.

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>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I UNDER STAND THAT AND I AGREE.

I HAVE GONE MANY PICNICS AND MANY EVENTS UNDER THESE PA N PAVILIONS AND THEY ARE USED. BECAUSE HER SLATTED AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TAKE A CERTAIN SECTION YOU HAVE A AND REPLACE IT WITH THAT. BUT I WILL DEFER THAT TO YOU.

I WAS JUST CURE XWRUS THAT TRYING TO LOOK AT THOSE TOTAL COSTS. IF YOU ARE TALKING REPAIRING THE PAVILIONS WITH SHINGLE, THE F ROOF, WILL BE IN ITSELF AN

EXPENSE. >> IT IS.

AND WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED IS $58,000 TO $100,000 TO REPLACE

THEM. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

ALL OF THEM. >> YES.

FIVE HAS A GOOD ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

THE OTHERS AREN'T. AND ONE THING TO NOTE LIKE THE PLAY SET RECONSTRUCTION. THAT WILL BE A COMMUNITY BUILD.

SOME TIME AGO WE CAME BEFORE WITH YOU PROJECT LIFT, AND WE ARE WORKING OUT THE PARTICULARS OF THIS.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME BACK WITH THEIR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT IN WANTS AND NEEDS IN THE NEXT MONTH IF THE AGENDA ALLOWS FOR US TO BE ON THERE. IN CASUAL CONVERSATION, WE HAVE MENTIONED THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON THAT WE CAN PURCHASE MATERIAL AND SOME OF THEIR STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM COULD ASSIST WITH RESHINGLING OR PLACING NEW ROOFS ON THESE PAVILIONS.

AN OPTION THERE SW AS WELL. >> MAYOR HUDSON: TERRIFIC.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS?

>> QUICK, MADAM MAYOR, I TOO VISIT THIS PARK MANY TIMES AS A CHILD AND ADULTS TO EVENTS. AND I AM JUST CONCERNED AND CURIOUS RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THESE RENOVATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER PERONA IS OVER THERE HIDING AND WON'T SHOW US -- BUT THAT'S FINE. TO JUNE 11.

I WILL BE THERE. HAS ANYONE BROUGHT UP THAT MGICAL, NASTY WORD OF "PARKING?" BECAUSE IF WE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS.

AND LIKE YOU SAID TRYING TO GET ONE OF THE PAVILIONS 30 TO 60 DAY. 90 DAYS YOU HAVE A TO GET A PAVILION. ONCE WE PUT ALL THIS MONEY IN HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO COME. WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO COME. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND NOT ON THE GET THERE EARLY AND GET TO YOUR PARKING SPACE AND GET TO YOUR PAVILION LIKE WE ARE NOW.

MARY MRAIRZ MIMS WANTS TO CHIME IN.

>>NICK MIMMS: LET'S TALK ABOUT JASON MITTLER REAL -- JAYCEE PARK. MOST PEOPLE LIKE TO PARK IN THE CONVENIENT LOCATION. JUST LIKE DOWNTOWN, FOLKS DON'T LIKE TO WALK. NORTH ON THE -- ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF JAYCEE PARK. THAT SITS EMPTY.

YOU AS A CITY COMMISSION DECIDE THIS IS ONE OF OUR PILOT AREAS FOR PAID PARKING. WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIMENT WITH THAT AND SEE IF THAT HELPS, BUT LIKE I SAID, THE PARKING IS NOT A QUANTIFIABLE ISSUE. IT IS A CONVENIENCE ISSUE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: AND SEE -- AND -- NOT SEASONAL, BUT ON CERTAIN

DAYS IT'S -- >> HOLIDAYS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES AND S R SUMMER, JULY 4 KIND OF PLACES.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS BEEN OUT THERE WHEN THIS WAS FULL AND THIS WAS FULL AND THIS PARKING LOT WAS FULL AND PEOPLE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET AT THE OTHER STUFF. I MEAN -- HEY, IF WE ARE PUTTING ALL THAT MONEY IN THIS PARK, THIS PARK IS USED BY EVERYBODY

IN FORT PIERCE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: AND OUTSIDE

FORT PIERCE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: PEOPLE COME IN TO USE THIS PARK. AGAIN BEING PRACTICE -- LET THEM KNOW WALK A LITTLE BIT ACROSS THE CEMENT AND GET TO THE PARK.

I GOT IT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD.

COMMISSIONER PERONA J. JOHNSON. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE PARKING AND THE PARKING LOT OF THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET. JUST A CONVENIENCE THING.

AND PLENTY OF SPACE TO PARK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WALK A LITTLE BIT. WHAT I HAVE A QUESTION IS THE SIX-FOOT SIDEWALKS AND THEY NEED TO BE IMPROVED.

AND CAN YOU PHASE THIS APPROACH WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT IMPROVING SIDEWALK SECTIONS 100 FEET AT A TIME OR MAYBE BLOCK BY BLOCK, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. A POSSIBILITY?

>> ABSOLUTELY, ALL THIS CAN BE PHASED.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: JUST LIKE THE ROOFS.

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AND MOVE ALONG IN AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH BUT AS THE BUDGET A W

ALLOWS AT THE SAME TIME. >> YES, SIR, THAT A POSSIBILITY.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA, DO YOU WANT TO SAY

SOMETHING? >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: ARE THE

BOAT RAMPS PART OF THIS PROJECT? >> NOT AT THIS TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: NOT THAT THEY DON'T NEED ATTENTION, JUST THAT THEY ARE NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT? I MEAN -- WELL, THEY DO NEED ATTENTION.

WE KNOW THAT. YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO GET A BEET TO THE RAMP SOMETIMES. THEY ARE UNDER WATER.

I MEAN, IF WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS WHOLE PROJECT, JAYCEE PARK INCLUDES BOAT RAMP, BECAUSE THE PARKING IS PART OF THAT, MUCH LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP THERE, COMMISSIONER PERONA, IT IS VERY STRATEGIC MULTIPURPOSE, MANY ACTIVITIES GOING ON ALL AT THE SAME TIME. AND I THINK THAT RATHER THAN LOOK AT IT PIECEMEAL, I WOULD RATHER LOOK AT IT AS ONE WHOLE UNIT WE CAN LOOK AT AND AT LEAST HAVE A PLAN FOR IT IF WE ARE NOT

GOING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ANYTHING ELSE?

GOOD JOB, MR. REALS. >> ONE THING I WANTED TO STATE BEFORE I GOT OUT OF HERE. OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE HAVE REALLY SEEN INSTANCES OF VANDALISM PICK-UP IN JAYCEE K PARK. WORKING WITH THE UA, THEIR INTENTION IS TO HAVE WI-FI WITHIN JAYCEE PARK WITHIN ALL PARKS IN THE CITY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO INSTALL SOME CAMERAS THAT WILL BE USED FOR SECURITY IF WE HAD ACTS OF VANDALISM, WE CAN TRY TO CAPTURE AND HELP WITH THAT.

BUT ALSO LIKE WE HAVE AT THE JETT AND AT THE MARINA, WEB C CAMS. WEB CAMS WILL BE SEPARATE FROM THE SECURITY CAM. THE SECURITY CAM WILL BE MUCH MORE DETAILED WHERE THE WEB CAM IS GENERAL VIEW AND ALL PROPOSED

AS WELL. >> MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD.

BECAUSE I HAD COMPLAINTS OF THE VANDALISM.

>> ME TOO. >> MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

THANK YOU, MR. REALS. >> NOW COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WONDERFUL. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND MISS COX WILL GIVE YOU A THREE-SECOND WARNING. AND I AM SORRY YOU HAD TO SIT THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO GET TO THIS, BUT WELCOME.

>> HI. MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> JUANITA DUNN, 4780 GLEN RIDGE AUSTRALIA, STUART, FLORIDA.

AND I AM ONE OF BONNIE DUNN'S DAUGHTERS.

SHE HAS TEN CHILDREN. AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE FIVE

MINUTES OF YOUR TIME -- >> MAYOR HUDSON: THREE MINUTES.

>> THREE MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. >> MAYOR HUDSON: SAY YOUR MOST

IMPORTANT THING FIRST. >> BOBBY DUNN HAVE DEDICATED HER LIFE TO VOLUNTEERISM. ONE MANY THINGS SHE DID, PINEWOOD IN FORT PIERCE IS WHERE SHE WENT EVERY DAY TO FEED THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. FOR YEARS, FED 40 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN EVERY DAY. "ING MOM" AS SHE WAS AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN TO THOSE WHO LOAD HER WOULD DELIVER HOT MEALS TO PINEWOOD PARK. SHE DID THIS UNTIL SHE TURNED 0 80. BONNIE WAS THE MOTHER OF TEN CHILDREN, 23 GRANDCHILDREN AND 13 GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.

IN THE EARLY YEARS SHE MOTHERED FOSTER BABY AND CHILDREN.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD SHY AWAY FROM TAKING ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT BONNIE'S DEEP FAITH, C COMPASSIONATE SPIRIT AND COMMITMENT TO THOSE LESS FORTUNATE FOR THOSE WHO TAN TO HELP. PREPARED FOOD IN HER OWN KITCHEN AND NEVER ASKED FOR ANYONE'S HELP.

SHE DID THIS SO THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE HOT MEAL A DAY. A GUARDIAN AD LITEM FOR THE 19TH SIBT WELL-RESPECTED BY ATTORNEYS, JUDGES AND FAMILIES.

VICTIMS ADVOCATE FOR THE 19TH STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SUPPORTED THE ANGELS OF HOPE PROGRAM IN FORT PIERCE THAT OFFERS DUG KNIT, RESPECT, AND WAY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

SHE WON MOTHER OF THE YEAR AFTER HER TEN CHILDREN NOMINATED HER FOR A LOCAL RADIO STATION CONTEST.

SHE SERVED IN PRISON MINISTRY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

A EUCHARISTIC MINISTER FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

ALSO A LPN FOR MANY YEARS IN FORT PIERCE AND A HOSPICE NURSE.

VOLUNTEER AT THE ST. VINCENT DE PAUL THRIFT STORE IN PORT ST.

LUCIE. EVEN AS HER HEALTH DECLINED, VOLUNTEERED WHERE SHE VISITED PATIENT, WROTE WEEKLY LETTERS

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AT THE AGE OF 70, SHE BECAME A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR AND CRIMINAL PROCESS SERVER FOR THE 19TH CIRCUIT PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND GOT SEVERAL AWARDS FOR HER SERVICE.

SHE COMPLETED THE ACADEMY TRAINING PROGRAM.

WORKED AS AN OFFICE MANAGER FOR AN ATTORNEY IN FORT PIERCE UNTIL SHE WAS 81. EXCUSE ME.

MANY SUPPORTERS HERE TODAY -- OR THERE WAS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WE SAW THEM. >> INCLUDING FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES THAT SHE TOUCHED IN THE COMMUNITY.

ALL OF THEM BELIEVED STRONGLY IN THIS CAUSE BECAUSE OF THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE OF HER OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WE FEEL THIS PARK SHOULD BE RENAMED BONNIE DUNN PARK.

AND I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR MOM DIDN'T BRING THE FOOD TO THE PARK AND THE HOMELESS FOLLOWED HER.

THE HOMELESS WERE ALREADY THERE. SHE JUST WAS TRYING HELP THE

PROBLEM. >> MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR

BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WHO IS NEXT. ANYBODY WANT TO BE NEXT? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME.

AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. WELCOME, HOLLY.

>> HOLLY TENS AND I RENOVATED A 1905 HOUSE IN EDGARTOWN.

I BOUGHT IT IN 2012 WHEN IT WASN'T THE SAFEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN TOWN OR THE NICEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN TOWN.

AND I INVESTED MY MONEY AND MY TIME IN FORT PIERCE BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT IT COULD BECOME. PART OF WHY I FELT SAFE INVESTING MY MONEY AND MY LIFE IN FORT PIERCE WAS THE ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTED ME FROM INCOMPATIBLE COMMERCIAL USES.

YOU CAN GO TO THE NORTH. YOU CAN GO TO THE SOUTH.

YOU CAN GO TO THE WEST AND AREAS IN FORT PIERCE THAT ARE JOINED FOR LIVE MUSIC. THE GENTLEMAN WHO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IN 2017 HAS ADMITTED HE KNEW THE ORDINANCE WHEN HE PURCHASED IT AND CHOSE NOT TO FOLLOW IT.

MY NEIGHBORS AND I MET WITH HIM TO EXPLAIN THAT MUSIC WAS A PROBLEM FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNERS AND WE WERE REALLY CONCERNED THAT HE UNDERSTOOD THAT. HE ADVISED US THERE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH HIS BUSINESS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO YOU TAKE THOSE FACTS INTO CONSIDERING AS YOU PLAN THE TWEAKS OF THE ORDINANCE.

KNOW THE INDIANA INTEGRITY OF THE EDGARTOWN ORDINANCE AND KEEP IT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO WANT TO ASK OF THE RADIO MUSIC TEN HOURS DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

CAME UP EARLIER. IS THERE A RESOLUTION ON THAT? BECAUSE I AM EXPERIENCING THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: SO WE DON'T HAVE A DIALOGUE, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ASK IT, WE WILL FIND OUT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

TIME. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE?

>> JOHN MALLEY, 1207, 124, 1833 SANRIDGE, 411 NORTH 2ND STREET, 620 NORTH ORANGE AVENUE AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. I AM A BIG FAN OF FORT PIERCE.

I AM BIG FAN OF EDGARTOWN. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

I DID KNOW THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT HAD NEVER BEEN -- I AM SORRY. I ALWAYS GET NERVOUS AS THESE THINGS. NEVER BEEN ENFORCED.

SO AND IT IS JUST AN ODD -- IT -- OUR PROBLEM IS, AGAIN, THE DEFINITION OF "ACOUSTIC ONLY" FOR THE MUSIC.

LIKE THE GUY BEFORE, I TRIED TO KEEP MINE SHORT AND SWEET.

WHO CARES IF A PERSON IS PLAYING MUSIC OR NOT.

HERE EARLIER, AN ACOUSTICALLY SOUND PLACE, BUT WE STILL NEED THESE MICROPHONES. YOU GUYS HAVE SPEAKS IN THE BATHROOMS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PROJECT WHAT IS GOING ON.

IN THIS BUSINESS, A MUSICIAN JUST CAN'T STAND THERE AND BE HEARD PROPERLY WITHOUT AMPLIFICATION.

THAT IS -- DECIBEL READING IS A WHOLE SEPARATE SCENARIO.

EASY TO ENFORCE. EASY TO GUIDE.

EASY TO JUDGE. BUT WHETHER THIS IS LIVE MUSIC OR NOT. THERE -- NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN THE MOUTH HERE, BUT FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY, THE EFFECT OF THE SOUND. NOT THE SOURCE OF THE SOUND, YOU KNOW. ANOTHER ONE IS, A LIVE PERSON MANIPULATING THE SOUND. AGAIN, WHAT MIGHT BE THE

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AGAIN, I CAN PLAY RADIO. BUT IF SOMEBODY IS THERE USING THE SPEAKER, I CAN'T HAVE T THAT.DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

PERFECT EXAMPLE THIS LAST WEDNESDAY, THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WERE IN THAT COMMUNITY USING THE MICROPHONE, BUT I CAN'T. PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM UP HERE WERE USING A MICROPHONE IN THE SAME PLACE, BUT I CAN'T.

SO I AM ALSO THE ONE WHO SAID, PLEASE, CALL THE COPS.

POLICE. I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT -- WE STOPPED. THE SECOND -- THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM EVER SINCE, BUT I MIGHT HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN TO GET THIS MOVED FORWARD MORE. THAT IS WHAT I TOOK.

BECAUSE WE CAN -- WE TRIED FOR TWO YEARS TO TRY TO GET THIS, YOU KNOW. HEY, I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, BUT LOOK HOW ANGRY I AM. AND IT IS OVER -- YOU KNOW, AGAIN WHAT IS FAIR AND WHAT'S NOT.

I AM NOT ALLOWED TO USE THIS MICROPHONE AT MY PLACE BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE? IT'S SILL -- IT IS SILLY.

SHOULD BE A DECIBEL LEVEL READING.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, R SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. 2505 NORTH ATLANTIC BEACH BOULEVARD. AFTERNOON I GUESS IT IS NOW.

JUST RANDOM THOUGHTS BEING HERE TODAY.

I WILL TRY TO BE AS COGENT AS POSSIBLE.

SPENT THE FIRST HOUR AND A HALF TALKING OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AT THE SUNRISE THEATRE AND HOW MUCH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS BEEN INVESTING AND SUBSIDIZING THAT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FOR MANY YEARS NOW WHICH CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES THERE IS A VALUE OF BRINGING PEOPLE TO OUR CITY THROUGH LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

THE CITY WOULD NOT BE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS PER YEAR DOING THAT. AN INVESTMENTS FOR US AS WELL.

WE HAVE GROWN A LOT BECAUSE WE OFFER LIVE MUSIC.

LIVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC. SOMEBODY THROUGH IN UNAMPLIFIED, INYOU A $ABLE FOR TEN FEET, IT REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING. SUNRISE THEATRE TALKED OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ARTS AND CULTURE, BEFORE I CAME TODAY, I CAME BACK QUICK TO MY CALENDAR AND IN 2021, THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2021, I HIRED EXACTLY 147 DIFFERENT MUSICIANS TO COME TO PLAY AT PIER SIDE WORKS. 147 DIFFERENT LOCAL MUSEUMS THAT WE ARE TALKING OF ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT WAS JUST TAKEN AWAY AN APRIL 7. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN ECONOMIC IMPACT. I KNOW THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES NOT WANT TO CREATE OR ENFORCE POLICIES THAT DISCOURAGE ARTS AND CULTURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT EVERYWHERE.

I KNOW YOU ARE VERY ON BOARD WITH ARTS AND CULTURE.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES NOT WANT TO CREATE ORDINANCES THAT ARE VAGUE AND SUBJECTIVE. NOT GOOD OP TOYX HAVE VAGUE AND SUBJECTIVE ORDINANCES ON THE BOOKS.

I KNOW ALSO THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES NOT WANT TO ENFORCE ORDINANCES THAT EXPOSE THEM STOVES LITIGATION AS THE COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT AND I WAS EDUCATED ON A SENATE BILL EARLIER THAT DISCUSSED IF AN ORDINANCE AFFECTS 15% OF PROFIT, THAT IS WHERE MY HOMEWORK WILL START W NOW, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO DEMONSTRATE HOW TAKING AWAY LIVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC AFFECTS OUR PROFITS.

56% OF THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS OF EDGARTOWN.

58% HAVE LIVED IN EDGARTOWN LESS THAN FOUR YEARS.

60% OF THE POPULATION THAT WASN'T AROUND 10, 12 YEARS AGO WHEN THIS ORDER MAN IN WAS WRITTEN.

CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH THE COMMISSION OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM AND A LOT HERE TODAY, I AM CONTINUOUSLY HEARING, WELL, IT TOOK LONG TIME TO WRITE THIS ORDER MAN IN.

IT WORK US A LONG TIME TO DO IT. THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TOOK TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

RELYING ON THAT AS AN ARGUMENT AGAINST CHANGE DEMONSTRATES RIGIDITY AND WHAT VOTERS LOOK FOR TO REPRESENT OUR BEST INTEREST. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, R SIR.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO TALK TO THE COMMISSION?

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> TIM O'CONNELL, 420 NORTH SECOND STREET. LET ME SEE, BACK IN 2011, ME AND MY WIFE WENT AROUND WITH LESLIE OLSON, USED TO BE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER AND TOOK US TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE COULD INVEST OUR MONEY.

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WE BOUGHT IN EDGARTOWN IN 2011. SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS RENOVATING MY HOUSE AND WE RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF THERE.

ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS I NEVER WANT TO SHUT DOWN A BUSINESS. I WAS ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR NINE YEARS BRINGING BUSINESSES HERE, ZONING THEM PROPERLY, AND HELPING PEOPLE MAKE A START. I ACTUALLY OWN PROPERTIES.

AND I STARTED BUSINESSES IN THIS TOWN.

I LOVE EDGARTOWN. I LOVE FORT PIERCE.

I WANT TO ENJOY QUIET ENTERTAINMENT OF MY PROPERTY.

I WANT TO SIT ON MY BACK PORCH AND NOT BE INUNDATED WITH MUSIC I DIDN'T PICK. 147 TIMES I HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO THIS ORDINANCE. HAS BEEN BROKEN.

THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. THESE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS HAVE BEEN AWESOME. I DON'T HAVE MUSIC COMING THROUGH MY CLOSED WINDOWS COMING OVER MY TV AND RUINING MY ENJOYMENT. I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY.

I WORKED -- I HAVE KNOWN MOST OF YOU.

I ALWAYS WANT A GOOD TOWN. BUT THIS IS UNTENABLE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE SOMEONE COME IN, KNOWINGLY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCES AND THEN SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN.

ALSO, THIS ONLINE SOCIAL MEDIA OF HATE CAMPAIGN THAT IS HAPPENED TOWARD THE NEIGHBORS HAS MADE EDGARTOWN AN UNSAFE PLACE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE, BUT I HAVE SEEN CARS PEELING OUT FROM AVENUE D IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY GO TO TICKLE TUMMY HILL.

I ALMOST SAW AN ACCIDENT WITH A QUAD COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

PEOPLE ARE SWEARING AT THE PROPERTIES.

THEY ARE WALKING BY BOOING THEM AND FLIPPING THEM YOU HAVE A AND SPITTING ON THEM. AND ALL COMES FROM THIS HATE CAMPAIGN THAT, I AM SORRY, BUT PIER SIDER PUT UP THERE.

I WAS UP IN MAINE WHEN I FIRST READ THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND I SOUGHT COMMENTS THAT ALL THEIR CUSTOMERS PUT OUT THERE.

NOT ONE IS TO BE QUIET AND ENJOY OUR PROPERTY.

IT IS LET'S HAVE DRUM CIRCLES. LET'S HAVE MARCHING BANDS.

THEY CREATED A VERY HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT WHERE I LIVE.

I ACTUALLY SAW A CAR -- WHAT GO 70 MILES PER HOUR PAST PIER SIDER AND I HOPE JOHN HAS IT ON FILM BECAUSE THAT GUY NEEDS TO BE PROSECUTED. ME AND MY LIFE LIVE THERE.

WE RUN A BUSINESS THERE. WE WANT FORT PIERCE TO GO WELL.

IN DOESN'T NEED TO BE CHANGED. I LIKE THE WAY IT WAS THOUGHT OUT. AND IT PROTECTS US.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

WE WILL MOVE ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE CITY COMMISSION

BOARD AND COMMITTEE UPDATES. >> MAYOR HUDSON: A VOLUNTEER TO

GO FIRST? >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: I WILL.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER GAINES, YOU ARE ALWAYS VOLUNTEERING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, LET ME PULL UP SOMETHING.

I WROTE SOME STUFF DOWN. ONE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. FIRST COMMITEE IS LEAGUE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAD A -- WE HAD A GREAT UPDATE TODAY FROM ALL THE BILLS THAT WE WERE MONITORING AND PASSED. I ALSO LAST WEEK SENT OUT THROUGH THE -- ASKED THE CITY CLERK MISS COX TO SEND MAPS OF THE NEW PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS THAT OUR GOVERNMENT SIGNED. I ASKED YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THE MAPS AND MAKE YOU AWARE THAT SOME DISTRICTS ARE JUST ERASED.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, AND, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT I CAN ALMOST -- COME%, I CAN ALMOST -- I HATE TO GUARANTEE, BUT I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT ONE IS GOING TO ENDS UP IN C T COURT.

I ALREADY HEARD RUMBLINGS THEY ARE GOING TO CHALLENGE THE GOVERNMENT ON THAT. SO THAT WASN'T ON THE PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT I WANT $YOU TO BE AWARE OF THE NEW -- THE NEW CONGRESSIONAL MAPS THAT WERE DRAWN AND APPROVED BY OUR GOVERNOR. SECOND COMMITTEE THE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET COMMITTEE. WE COMPLETED THE SURVEY FOR THAT. THEY ARE BRINGING THOSE RESULTS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE WILL BRING THEM TO YOU.

THE LINCOLN PARK HERITAGE EDUCATION PROGRAM IS GOING INTO

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ALL OF THESE WILL BE OPENING UP LATE JUNE 2022.

ONCE I GET MORE INFORMATION FROM THAT BOARDS, I WILL PRESENT IT AND HAVE DATES. MR. MIMS, WE HAD A REQUEST FROM THAT BOARD OF SOME TYPE OF ADDITIONAL STORAGE IF THEY CAN HAVE IT FROM -- FROM THE CITY, I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

I AM JUST A -- I GUESS HAVE A BUNCH OF STORAGE.

THEY NEED SOME STORAGE AND SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.

THE NEXT COMMITTEE I AM SON IS THE COUNCIL OF AGING.

AND WE HAD A BIG NIGHT LAST WEEK OR A WEEK -- LAST WEDNESDAY, WE HAD -- THEY HAD THEIR FIRST BINGO NIGHT.

AND IT WAS A FULL HOUSE. SO THEY WERE HAPPY THAT -- THEY WERE HAPPY THAT WEDS A BINGO NIGHT.

AND THE DIRECTOR ALSO WANTED ME TO MAKE AWARE OF AND CAME UP AT THEIR FPA THING, THE TOWN HOME. DURING THE SUMMER TIME IF S R SENIORS NEED HELP WITH ELECTRICAL BILL BECAUSE OF HEAT IS TO CONTACT THE COUNCIL OF AGING.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WONDERFUL. OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: OTHER BOARD IS RETIREMENT BOARD.

I WILL DEDEFER TO MY COLLEAGUE AT THE END AND HE WILL TALK OF THE RETIREMENT BOARD. AND OUR HOMELESS KAV, WE HAVE THIS MEETING THIS FRIDAY. AND WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT OUR FINAL REPRESENT TAKES TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS GOING FORWARD WHAT WE THINK WE NEED AND WHAT WE THINK THIS BOARD SHOULD DO. SO I THINK I HAVE CAPTURED ALL

OF MY COMMITTEES. >> MAYOR HUDSON: GREAT.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: THANK YOU, MAD DAM MAYOR.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA J. JOHNSON, ARE YOU

READY. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: SURE. WHERE DO I START.

CHAMBER, A NETWORKING BREAKFAST. WE WILL ALSO MEET AT THE ENDS OF THE MONTH AND GO TO AN EVERY OTHER MONTH AND HAVE A LONGER MEETING SESSION. SHAWN BOYLE IS ACTING CHAIR.

HE IS LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS TO DO THAT.

LET'S SEE. TOURISM, WE MEET ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE WE HAD TO POSTPONE FROM LAST MONTH.

TBO IS NEXT MONTH. DBA, TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE ABOUT SCO SCOOTERS.

YOU RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM MR. MIMS LAST WEEK -- OR THE WEEK BEFORE ABOUT SCOOTERS. AND EVALUATION OF THAT CONTRACT.

BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS A RESPONSE FROM THE AGENCY, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, A RESPONSE FROM -- IN A REVENUE SHEET, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. THAT WENT TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS? I BELIEVE IT DID.

GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

SCOOTERS ARE A CHALLENGE WITH SOME OF THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.

AND THEY ASK WE JUST INITIATE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE HOLDING TRUE TO THE CONTRACT. BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DELAYS AND PICK-UPS AND THEY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ALL ABOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE LAYING DOWN IN AREAS THEY SHOULDN'T BE LAYING DOWN. HOPEFULLY THAT STAYS ON A -- ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS AND THE DBA'S.

THEY HAD OTHER ISSUES BUT THAT IS A BIG ONE FOR US.

LET'S SEE. MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE.

WE HAD OUR ANNUAL MEETING. IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING AND THE MEMBERSHIP WAS ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AND ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY. MAIN STREET IS DOING WELL.

FRIDAY FEST IS DOING WELL. GREAT WEATHER.

AS YOU KNOW MAIN STREET CONTINUES TO STRIVE TO DO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS EVERY TIME WE MEET TOGETHER.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THEY DO A LOT WITH A LITTLE.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THEY DO A LOT WITH A LITTLE.

ONE THING WITH THE RETIREMENT BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION -- COMMISSIONER PERONA, YOU HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY OF IT.

ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE CONTRIBUTION OR THE IDEA OF CHANGING THE CRICK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS SPECIFICALLY.

AND HERE -- I BROUGHT UP EARLIER TODAY AND THIS IS WHY I AM ASKING THE QUESTION. I BROUGHT EARLIER OF POLICE OFFICER. THE FORT PIERCE POLICE

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SALTRY CHALLENGES. WE SAW -- I THINK IT WASN'T APPROVED, THE LEGISLATURE LOOKING TO GIVE AN ALL SHERIFF DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL A $5,000 BUMP IN THEIR WAGES.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS APPROVED. BUT POINT IS, THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT. AND SO HOW DO WE OFFER A SYSTEM IF WE ARE FIGHTING FOR PERSONNEL AND COMPETING WITH ALL THESE OTHER AGENCIES AS A FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AS A CITY MOO DO WE ORDER A MORAL LA CART APPLICATION OR CAN WE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM THE RETIREMENT PERSPECTIVE AND THE FUTURE. AND THAT -- WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCE SOMETHING IS WE ARE EXPERIENCING THE FOLKS THAT COME HERE AND THEY GO, I HAVE THE 185 PLAN WHICH THEY VOTE ON THEMSELVES AND THE RETIREMENT. AND SO THE 12% THEIR SALARY IS GONE YOU HAVE A THE TOP IN INVESTING IN THEIR FUTURE.

BUT A YOUNG OFFICER THEY NEED TO BUY A HOME AND START A FAMILY.

I THROW THAT OUT THERE AS SOMETHING WE NEED TOO LOOK AT EVALUE 2008 AND SAY NO THANKS, MAYBE THERE IS ADJUSTMENT.

THIS IS MY QUESTION. NO RESPONSE NEEDED.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: THE QUICK RESPONSE IS EVERY TIME YOU TWEAK A PLAN EVEN IN A SMALL WAY, IT CREATES A BURDEN, A LIABILITY TO THAT PLAN. AND LIABILITY TO RETIREMENT PEOPLE IS A BAD WORD SO ANYTHING CAN BE DONE AND IT WILL TAKE MORE CONTRIBUTIONS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY COME FROM, THE EMPLOYER AND THE AND OR EM E ON WITH THAT.

THERE MAY BE BETTER PROCESSES. YOU ARE TRYING TO TALK OF A BENEFITS PACKAGE FOR RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT AND ALL THIS BUT ALL POSSIBLE AND CAN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AS WE HAVE SET IF IN PLACE.

THOSE CANNOT. THOSE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE PARAMETER AND WE WOULD NEED TO GET SPECIFIC WHAT YOU WANT TO

TRY TO ACCOMPLISH. >> WE NEED TO BE CHALLENGED OTHER AGENCIES ARE INCREASING THEIR SALARIES AND BUMPING WHAT THEY WANT TO BUMP. WE ARE HAVING OUR NEGOTIATIONS.

WHEN WE TALK TO MR. MIMS INDIVIDUALLY OR HOLISTICALLY,

THE SAME KHA CHALLENGE. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: INCREASE OF PAY WILL ALSO INCREASE A RETIREMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: SOME OF THAT IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT TO THE POINT.

WE HAVE STATES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE DONE RECKLESSLY AND HAVING ISSUES THAT ARE COSTING THEIR STATE BUDGETS AN ENORTHERNLY NEWS AMOUNT OF M Y MONEY.

BY US MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS ORDER, IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST PRODUCT IN THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT IT IS ONE THAT IS RATED THE HIGHEST AS FAR AS THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE PROMISE THAT WE -- THE PROMISES THAT WE MADE ARE GOING TO BE PAID OUT.

AND RIGHT NOW IT IS A VERY, VERY HEALTHY DOCUMENT.

A VERY HEALTHY SYSTEM GOING FORWARD.

AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER THING THAT WE CAN EMBELLISH IT WITH, AND NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM OUR LIABILITY AND OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE COMMITMENTS.

IF WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND YOU WANT THE RETIREMENT BOARD TO ENTERTAIN THAT, IT IS KINDS OF FUNNY COMING FROM THE COMMISSION AND NOT COMING FROM THE WORKFORCE.

SOMETHING THAT MR. MIMS SHOULD PROBABLY INSTIGATE SAYING, HEY, LOOK IT, I WOULD LIKE A BETTER PACKAGE TO OFFER EMPLOYEES, BLAH-BLAH-BLAH. CAN YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MR. MIHM WANTS TO DO, HE CAN GO AHEAD THROUGH THE CHANNELS AND GET THAT IN FRONT OF THE RETIREMENT BOARD FOR US TO CONSIDER. I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT, BUT I WOULD WRATH TER COME FROM ADMINISTRATION TO GET

THERE SO WE HAVE GOT THAT GOING. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: SURE, BUT WE GET TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: AGREE. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: START PENCIL-WHIPPING THE BUDGET.

SO WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT IT. THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGES. IF WE DON'T HAVE AN EFFECTIVE POLICE FORCE, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER.

RETIREMENT BE DAMNED. BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE L LACKING IN OTHER AREAS, RIGHT? HOWEVER THE COMES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ALSO, I HAVE ANECDOTALLY HEARD THE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS ARE ALSO -- THEY COME OUT OF THEIR -- FOR THEIR FAMILIES. YOU KNOW, THAT IS ANOTHER DEDUCTION THAT THEY. ANOTHER DAUGHTER THAT THEY DON'T

GET TO BRING HOME. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON:

THAT'S IT, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

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>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WILL BE BRIEF.

I WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE ON THE 20TH FOR THE TREASURE COAST.

WHOEVER IS MY ALTERNATE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

QUICK UPDATE FROM THE TCU. WE HAVEN'T MET AND AN E-MAIL FROM MR. BUCKWALL AND UNINTENTIONAL U-TURN SIGNS PLACED ON U.S. 1 AND MIDWAY. THAT WILL BE REMOVED.

OUR BUSINESSES WEREN'T ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TRAVERSING NORTH ON U.S. 1. WHEN THEY TUNNEL LEFT, THEY COULDN'T MAKE A YOU-TURN TO GO TO THOSE BUSINESSES, THE LEXUS DEALERSHIP. THAT WILL BE REMOVED.

A SIGN PLACED BY THE CHAMBER NO YOU H TUN TURN THAT WILL BE REMOVED. I WANT TO KIND OF KICK UPDATE MR. BUCKWALL SHARED WITH ME AND SOME ISSUES OF MOVING ABOUT OUR CITY PRETTY OFFICIALLY. FIRE BOARD.

I GUESS WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP.

NOTHING IS HAPPENING THERE. IN THE LAST FIRE BOARD WE DEDICATED AN AMBULANCE THEY TOOK OUT OF COMMISSION AND WE ARE

SENDING THAT TO AFRICA. >> MAYOR HUDSON: TO LIBERIA.

>> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: LIBERIA.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WE SIGNED IT. >> COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: WHATEVER BOARD. THE SEAPORT ADVISORY BOARD MET LAST MONTH AND A LIVELY DISCUSSION.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM A DIRECTOR.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE DREDGING PROJECT THAT SPING HAY LONG THE -- WHAT IS THAT? I CALL IT BELCHER CANAL.

TAYLOR CREEK AREA. AND AN UPDATE AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. THE BOARD IS BACK TOGETHER.

WE ARE MEETING. A WHOLE YEAR, BUT THE FIRST MEETING. WELL ATTENDED AND WE HAD A QUORUM. AND LOOKING TO BRING MORE INFORMATION BACK ON THE SEAPORT ADVISORY BOARD.

THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

PERONA. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. FPUA, THE LIAISON.

DID WE SENDS THAT OUT YET? DID I SEND GNAW ATTACHMENT? WE HAD A SPEAKER. HIS NAME IS MICHAEL SHELINBERG.

AND HE IS WELL KNOWN FOR TALKING OF CLIMATE CHANGE, SOME OF THE POLITICAL IMPACTS AND CAME UP WITH -- AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY CLERK AND HAD THE -- AT LEAST THE GRAPHS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SOME OF THE M MISCONCEPTIONS ON SEA LEVEL RISE AND ALL THE ISSUES SENT TO YOU ALL AS A PART OF INTEREST BUT IF YOU CAN, THEY DID RECORD THE PODCAST FROM HIM AND IT WAS QUITE INTERESTING.

REALLY -- SOME OF THE STUFF I -- I JUST DIDN'T KNOW.

I MEAN ESPECIALLY THE GARBAGE IN THE WATER AND CARBON AS IT EFFECTS THE ENVIRONMENT ETC., ETC., I DON'T WANT TO GO ON BECAUSE QUITE IN DETAIL AND IT WAS JUST EYE OPENING AND HOW IT AFFECTS GENERATION OF ELECTRICITY AND THE PLANS THAT STARTED AND BUILT IN COUNTRY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND KIND OF INTERESTING HOW TO ALL WORKED OUT.

WE TALKED OF JC PARK GOING FORWARD.

JUNE 11. I WILL GET INVITATIONS OUT TO STAFF AND COMMISSION. SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY.

THEY ARE HARD-WORKING FOLKS OVER THERE THAT HAVE A LOT OF HEART TRYING TO MAKE THIS THING WORK OUT.

WE HAD A SETBACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES -- ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS GOT SERIOUSLY HURT.

AND IT IS REALLY DOVE DO. AND I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS ACCENTUATES THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES WORKING THERE FOR THAT ENVIRONMENT TO KEEP IT OPERATING IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

AND SOME CHANGE HAS TO BE MADE AND IT IS -- SITTING ON THAT BOARD, I SEE THE COMMITMENT AND VOLUNTEERS GOING ON AND I KNOW IT IS MUCH LIKE THE SUNRISE THEATRE.

YOU KNOW FUND RAISING IS A BIG PART OF THAT.

GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BUY INTO TAT AND IT CAN'T JUST BE -- IT CAN'T BE FUNDED TOTALLY BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MOVING FORWARD AND THAT IS THE PARK.

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>> MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. EVERYBODY HAS REPORTED EXCEPT ME. WE DEDICATED THE FIRE STATION ON THE BEACH TO DR. LOU. AND THAT WAS VERY NICE.

WE GOT A REPORT FROM THE FIRE BOARD -- FIRE DISTRICT FROM ITS PENSION. AND SO THEY ARE REDUCED RATE OF RETURN TO 7.4%. AND INCREASED THEIR RATIO FROM 7 73.1% TO 74.9 COMPARED TO OURS WHICH IS 90 SOMETHING? YEAH, YEAH. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THIS. I KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS INTERESTED IN THIS. COMMISSIONER PERONA, I WILL BE

GLAD TO SHARE IT WITH YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: DO THEY REPORT THEIR UNFUNDED SNR Y SNRIBILITY.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, THEY DID. LET ME SEE IF IT IS HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU CAN GET ME A REPORT ON THAT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL GET YOU MORE ON THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY REPORTED ON AND HELP ME OUT COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON IF I MISS ANYTHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO FOUR NEW STATIONS IN -- ONE A YEAR.

AND ONE -- THE NEW MAIN ONE WILL BE AT MILNER AND GOING TO BE ONE OUT BY I-95 IN THE WESTERN -- IN THE WESTERN CORRIDOR.

I THINK ALONG KINGSHIGHWAY. AM I REMEMBERING THAT RIGHT.

TO NUMBER 2347 TRADITION AND NEXT ONE IN RESERVE.

THOSE WILL BE EACH YEAR NEW FIRE STATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND GOING TO MURAL OF COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER INSIDE THE OCCASION ON AVENUE D.

AND THIS IS WORKED ON NOW. >> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: DID THEY TALK TO THE ONE ON THE KINGS HIGHWAY ONE? THEY WERE THINKING OF PUTTING ONE AT THE AIRPORT SITE.

THE ONLY THAT ONE SERVICES ON THE ONE OUTSIDE OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY. THEY CAULKED OF AIRPORT ROAD.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I THINK -- NO, I DON'T KNOW.

I-95 AND THE CORRIDOR. NOT KINGSHIGHWAY.

BUT I KNOW SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE AIRPLANE ANDL LAKEWOOD PARK ONE. I KNOW THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, WE ALL HAD FPUA. A LOT ABOUT FPUA AND I WON'T GO INTO MORE OF THAT AND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS MEETING. HAS A LUNCH MEETING IN JUNE AND SOMEBODY FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WILL BE GIVING THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE AND COMMISSIONER PERONA C. JOHNSON AND I WILL GET OUR HOME RULE HEROES AWARD OF THE PARTICULAR LUNCHEON. I WILL SAY THAT, MANY OF THE EVENT THAT I ATTENDS, COMMISSIONER PERONA, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE KARP HUMANE SOCIETY THERE.

AND THEY ARE ALWAYS PROMOTING IT AND I TALKED TO THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THEY ARE GETTING THEIR NAME OUT THERE A LOT AND I AM HOPING THAT ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL JOIN THE CHAMBER OR IN SOME WAY BE ABLE TO BE REPRESENTED AT SOME THESE BECAUSE THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY BUT SERVING ST.

LUCIE. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA: AGAIN,

IT COME DOWN TO STAFF. >> MAYOR HUDSON: IT DOES.

BUT I THINK THEY WILL TRY GET A BOARD MEMBER TO BE A PART OF IT WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

THE LAST THING WE WANT TO SAY. Y'ALL KNOW MADDIE WILLIAMS. TREASURE COAST BUILDER ASSOCIATION.

IN HER OTHER LIFE SHE IS A SINGER AND SHE IS GOING TO BE PERFORMING AT THE 500 ORANGE FOR THE ST. LUCIE CULTURAL ALLIANCE AND SHE IS IN A BAND CALLED "THE DREAMER.

A BIG BAND. AND I AM GOING TO MISS IT BECAUSE I AM GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN.

THURSDAY, MAY 12 AT 500 ORANGE. IF ANYBODY GOES, I JUST -- I AM

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SHE IS A BIG BAND SINGER. I THINK -- WHO KNEW, RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER JERMIAH JOHNSON: THIS THURSDAY, RIGHT? MARY STEVE MCNAIR THURSDAY, THE 12TH.

OKAY. YES, SIR?

COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM JUST LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR AND IT WASN'T A STANDING COMMITTEE, BUT I DID ATTEND THE CONCERNED CITIZENS MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY AT THE RIVER WALK AND SOMEHOW I WAS THE GUEST SPEAKER WHICH WAS

-- >> MAYOR HUDSON: BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE AND THEY SAW YOU?

[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: BUT IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING MEETING AND IF NO OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN GUEST SPEAKER, I THINK YOU NEED TO GO.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: AND MR. MIMS HAS TOO.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES: JUST MY TIME TO GO.

A VERY INTERESTING MEETING AND -- I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE GOT -- WE GOT JUDGE BRYANT. JUDGE BRYANT CAME OUT BECAUSE HE HEARD IT I WAS SPEAKING AND I HAD TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT BECAUSE HE -- HE WAS ONE OF THE JUDGES THAT -- THAT TRAINED ME

WHEN I WAS A YOUNGER. >> MAYOR HUDSON: HE IS STILL A

JUDGE TO YOU. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES: HE WAS STILL A JUDGE FOR ME AND A VERY INTERESTING MEETING AND HAPPY FOR THE INVITATION. I WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE I DID FORGET THAT I -- I WAS THERE LAST THURSDAY.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER PERONA J. JOHNSON.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK THING.

THE REFERENCE ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

TERESA ARRINGTON AT THE CHAMBER WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, THE TAX ABATEMENT REFERENDUM. APPLY TO FORT PIERCE? I WAS TRYING REMEMBER IT. BECAUSE I THINK YOU AND I TALKED

ABOUT IT. >> YES, MA'AM, THE CITY OF ST.

LUCIE, THEY EXTEND THE THEIR ABILITY LAST YEAR, THE COUNTY OF ST. LUCY AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS DOING IT THIS YEAR.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: DOING TOGETHER NICHOLAS MIMMS BEGIN THAT PROCESS MAY 16 AT OUR NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WITH THAT, HERE IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF WE ARE GOING TO TURN OUT THE LIGHTS AND EVERYBODY LEAVE THE CHAMBERS AND PACK UP OUR STUFF. IF YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.