[a. Future Land Use Map Amendment (1 of 2) - The Preserve at Savannah Lakes - The East side of S. US Highway 1 at the intersection of Dickson Drive and lying North of the existing Gator Trace Planned Development]

>> MARCIA BAKER: YES. >> HAROLD ALBURY: YES.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL SITUATION ON THE PLANNING BOARD.

NORMALLY WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM A PROJECT OR SUBJECT, BUT TODAY I FIND MY SELF IN A CONFLICT OF INTEREST SITUATION THAT I WILL NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF AND SKILL THE CLERK TO READ IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND

THE APPOINTEE RULES TO DO SO. >>CLERK: THE PERSON HOLDING ELECTIVE OR COUNTY MUNICIPAL OR OTHER PUBLIC OFFICE MUST ABSTAIN TO ENSURE TO HIS OR HER SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS.

EACH ELECTED OR APPOINTED LOCAL OFFICER ALSO NEWS ABSTAIN FROM KNOWINGLY VOTING ON A MEASURE THAT WILL BE TO THE SPECIAL GAIN AND LOSS OF A PRINCIPAL OTHER BY A GOVERNMENT AGENCIES OF HE OR SHE IS RETAINED OF PARENT AND SIBLING ORGANIZATION OF A PRINCIPL BY WHICH HE OR SHE IS OBTAINED WITH GAIN OR LOSS OF THE SPECIAL GAIN AND LOSS OF A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE.

COMMISSIONERS OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES, CRAS SUNDAY SECTION 1.63.356 OR 357. AND OFFICER OF INDEPENDENT SPECIAL TAX DISTRICT ELECTED ON A ONE-ACRE, ONE-VOTE BASIS ARE NOT PROHIBITED IN VOTING IN THAT CAPACITY.

FOR PURPOSES OF THIS LAW, A RELATIVE INCLUDES ONLY THE OFFICER'S FATHER, MOTHER, SON, DAUGHTER, HUSBAND, WIFE, BROTHER, SISTER, FATHER-IN-LAW, SISTER-IN-LAW, SON-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER IN LAW OR SON-IN-LAW. AND ENGAGED ON A BUSINESS OFFICER AS A PARTNER, JOINT VENTURER, CO-OWNER OF PROPERTY AND JOINT SHAREHOLDER WHERE IS THE SHARES ARE NOT LIST ODD ANYONE NATIONAL OR REGIONAL STOCK EXCHANGE.

APPOINTED OFFICERS. ALTHOUGH YOU MUST ABSTAIN FROM VOTING AND THE SITUATIONS DESCRIBED, YOU ARE NOT PROHIBITED BY 11 2.343 FROM OTHERWISE PARTICIPATING.

BUT YOU MUST DISCLOSE THE NATURE OF THE CONFLICT WITHOUT ANY ATTEMPT WHETHER ORALLY OR WRITING YOU.

IF YOU ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE FROM WHICH THE FORM YOU MUST COMPLETE

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AND FILE FORM 1 B BEFORE MAKING INTENT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION OF THE PERSON WHO WILL INCORPORATE THE FORM IN THE MINUTE. APPOINTED OFFICERS CONTINUED.

A COPY OF THIS FORM MUST PROVIDED IMMEDIATELY TO THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE AGENCY. THE FORM MUST BE READ PUBLICLY AT THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THE FORM IS FILED.

IF YOU MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION EXCEPT BY DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING, YOU MUST DISCUSS ORALLY THE NATURE OF YOUR CONFLICT AND METHOD OF PARTICIPATING.

YOU MUST COMPLETE THE FORM WITHIN 15 DAYS OF THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR RECORDING THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING AND MUST INCORPORATE THE FORM IN THE MINUTES.

A COPY OF THE FORM MUST PROVIDED IMMEDIATELY TO THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE AGENCY AND MUST BE READ PUBLICLY AT THE NEXT MEETING

AFTER THE STORM FILED. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE OTHER MEMBER HERE ON THE DAIS.

I DO NOT HAVE THE FORM COPIED. WE WERE RUNNING LATE TO GET EVERYTHING HERE AT THE DAIS. I WILL LEAVE THIS FORM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF IT, WE WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE YOU WILL GET ONE. THE REASON FOR MY ACTION IS THAT I AM RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER OF GATOR TRACE SUBDIVISION.

WE ARE ADJACENT -- OUR PROPERTY IS AJAYENT TO THE THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES. AND IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT I WOULD REALIZE A INCREASE OF PROPERTY VALUES OR POSSIBLY A DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE HEARING HERE TODAY. BUT THE SECOND REASON IS I THINK REALLY THE PRIMARY REASON FOR MY RECUSAL, AND THAT IS, I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE GATOR TRACE MASTER PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION. I HAVE A DUTY TO MY COMMUNITY TO REPRESENT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE MATTERS OF THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES. THIS IS A CONFLICT WITH MY POSITION AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING BOARD.

I BELIEVE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS MATTER TO AVOID ANY PERCEPTION OF IMPROPRIETIES.

I SPOKEN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THIS ISSUE AND DECISION, AND SHE FULLY AGREED THAT THE BEST ACTION WOULD BE FOR ME TO RECUSE MYSELF ENTIRELY FROM THIS ACTION WITH NO CONNECTION TO IT. SO FOR THAT REASON, I AM GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL TO MY VICE CHAIR AND ALLOW THE VICE-CHAIR TO RUN THE PROCEEDING AND I WILL LEAVE THE DAIS AT THIS TIME.

>> MR. CHAIR. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES,

SIR. >> DID YOU ASK THE ATTORNEY WHETHER YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN OR A MEMBER OF THE BOARD CAN SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FROM THE -- FROM THE PUBLIC'S SPOT?

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I DID NOT, BUT I THINK THE POSITION TIME IN, I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM WHATSOEVER.

AS A CITIZEN OR AS A BOARD MEMBER.

>> OKAY. THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR HOA

ALSO. >>.

>>. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES,

SIR. >> MOVING FORWARD, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE ACTING AS THE CAPACITY OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY FOR ITEM 6 A AND 6 B. ITEM 6 A IS THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT ONE OR TWO THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES ON THE CEASE SIDE SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 AT THE INTERSECTION OF DICKSON DRIVE LYING NORTH OF THE EXIST GATOR TRACE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. VENNIS GILMORE.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: MR. CHAIR, I WILL ASK THAT YOU ALLOW ME TO DO ONE PRESENTATION, BUT THIS PROJECT HAS FOUR APPLICATIONS, SO WILL NEED FOUR MOTIONS. THE FIRST TWO ARE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMOUNTS FROM THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCIES WHICH

YOU ARE. >> YOU WANT TO ACT ON THE LOCAL OCEAN AND MOVED INTO THE SECTION ACTION AS THE PLANNING BOARD.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: YES, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, PLANNING CHAIRMAN, BEFORE IS YOU A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE EAST SIDE OF U.S. HIGHWAY 1 AND THE INTERSECTION OF DICKSON DRIVE AND LYING NORTH OF THE EXISTING GATOR TRACE DEVELOPMENT. THE LANDS USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR SUBJECT PARCEL, .04 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND PROPOSED FUTURE IS RM, MEDIUM DENSITY

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RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS IS THE CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING MAP. OKAY.

THE FUTURE LANDS USE CHANGE FOR ONE PARCEL FROM GM TO RM, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: ONE OF THE FOUR PARCELS HAVE A RM MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL. AND CONSISTENT 125-136 OF THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY EFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.

THANK YOU. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? NONE? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

VENNIS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ZONING MAP?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: CAN YOU KIND OF OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY WHICH LOTS ARE ZONED CURRENTLY.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: CURRENTLY, THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT IS FOR THIS SUBJECT PARCEL.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY. OKAY.

I WILL HOLD MY OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION, VENNIS IS SIMPLY FOR THE MAP AME S AMENDMENTS.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLATTING, SITE PLAN.

THAT IS ALL IN THE SECOND POSHS OF IT, CORRECT?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: ANY COMMENTARY THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD JUST ON THE ZONING FROM

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. >> CORRECT, THE AMENDMENT.

>> BRAD: OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER HERE?

>> YES, SIR, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY.

THE FIRM OF CULPEPPER IN FORT PIERCE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH YOUR ADULT AGAINST, IF I COULD, PLEASE, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT -- OR TODAY.

THEY ARE ALL INTERRELATED TO EACH OTHER.

AND MY PAST EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IF WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION WHERE WE COVER ALL OF THE POINTS, GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AT ONE HAND THROUGH ONE PARTICULAR PRESENTATION, THEN WE COME BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS, IT TENDS TO MAKE THINGS WORK A LITTLE BIT EASIER FROM A WAY OF UNDERSTANDING. YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT A PART IN A VACUUM. YOU WILL LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING AS A WHOLE. WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, I HAVE A SHORT POWERPOINT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT. THE TWO LOCAL AGENCY HEARING AND THEN THE NEXT TWO REGULAR ITEM HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA.

AND IT WILL TAKE US BACK TO THE LAND USE ITEMS AND WE CAN TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR WHATEVER.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: VENNIS, WHAT IS YOUR COMMENT ON THAT?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: THAT WILL BE FINE BUT YOU WILL NEED THE FOUR

DIFFERENT MOTIONS. >> I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT ROLLING THIS INTO ONE AS A VOTE PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT WE WILL BE TAKING FOUR INDIVIDUAL VOTES FOR EACH PORTION AS IT PROCEEDS. I WANT FOLKS TO BE CLEAR ON T THAT. ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND WE WILL GET TO THAT QUICKLY.

PLEASE PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> I WILL NEED THE LITTLE CONTROLLERS.

CAN YOU GET ME SET UP IN THERE?

>> TWO SECONDS TO GET OUR SHOW TOGETHER HERE.

HERE WE GO. OKAY.

AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, DES THIS MURPHY WITH THE FIRMLE OF CULPEPPER HERE IN FORT PIERCE AND HERE TO REPRESENT KOLTER LAND DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE BEEN PRACTICING AND DEVELOPING IN FLORIDA FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND THIS IS THEIR LATEST PROJECT THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON HERE COOPERATIVELY IN THE FORT PIERCE AREA.

MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM INCLUDE CULPEPPER, EW CONSULT CAN'TS, MCKENZIE ENGINEERING THAT HANDLED TRAFFIC AND KOLTER HEARING WHICH HANDLE PLANNING ACTIVITIES.

BEAR WITH ME AS I MAKE SURE THIS WORKS.

OKAY. WHY THIS NOT WORKING.

MR. CHAIRMAN FOR GENERAL POINT OF REFERENCE AND WORK THROUGH THIS FIRST. THIS IS THE GENERAL MAP WHERE WE ARE LOCATEOUR PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS -- CAN I HAVE THE MOUSE? OUR PARTICULAR PROPERTY, IF YOU -- OKAY. LOCATED HERE IN THE CENTER.

WE LINE BETWEEN HIGH POINT AND GATOR TRACE.

THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES TO THE EAST AND DEVELOPMENT LAND ALONGSIDE THE WESTERN SIDE OUT TOWARD U.S. 1.

THIS IS THE OVERALL PETITION PROPERTY.

THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 130 ACRE. AND IT ENCOMPASSES THE ORIGINAL

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DEVELOPMENT TRACT THAT WAS USED UNDER THE OLD SAVANNAH LAKES PROJECT 15 YEARS AGO. AND INCLUDES THE TWO COMMERCIAL PIECES THE SUBJECT OF THE FIRST TWO AGENCY FOR LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY TO REVIEW AND CHANGING THAT TO RESIDENTIAL.

BY WAY OF BACKGROUND FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR THE LAND USE PETITIONS. THE AREAS CLASSIFIED.

IN THESE BROWN COLORS, THOSE ARE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IN THE CITY, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE COUNTY. THIS IS COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY.

COMMERCIAL IN THE COUNTY. INDUSTRIAL IN THE COUNTY.

COMMERCE IN THE COUNTY. INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCE -- I AM SORRY, INDUSTRIAL IN THE CITY AND COUNTY ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND THEN WE HAVE CITY COMMERCIAL.

CITY MEDIUM DENSITY AND CITY COMMERCIAL AS WE CONTINUE SOUTH.

AS YOU CAN SEE A MISH-MASH OF ALL KIND OF DESIGNATION FROM A VARIETY OF YEARS OF EFFORTS AND CHANGES AND ACTIVITIES AND ATTEMPTS IN THIS PARTICULAR A AREA.

WE BEGIN THIS PETITION DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRST OF TWO PARCELS IN FRONT OF YOU. AGENDA ITEM 6 A AND 6 B.

AGENDA ITEM 6 B IS WHAT EYE IDENTIFIED AS TRACT 1.

TRACT ACCESSED FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.

AN AGENDA ITEM 6 A, WHICH A FOUR ACRE -- USE OF ROUND NUMBERS -- ACRE TRACK THAT WAS USED FOR ACCESS TO USA 1.

I WILL GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THESE AS WITH GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY WE PICKED UP BOTH OF THESE PIECES. ONE ITEM THAT I DO NEED TO GO BACK ON TO HERE, PLEASE, FOR A SECOND.

SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT WE HAVE A -- APPROVED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A POURING OF THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED RIGHT HERE. WE HAVE IT FOR THE MAIN DEVELOPMENT TRACK. THE BULK HERE AND THIS FOUR-ACRE TRACK RIGHT HERE OPINION WE CURRENTLY HAVE PENDING IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION, EXCUSE ME -- WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION AN AMENDMENT TO EXPANDS THE DISTRICT TO BASICALLY FOLLOW THE DASHED RED LINE.

OF HOW DON'T KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS, A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT THAT IS APPLIED TO A SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS PRINCIPALLY USED AS FINANCING MECHANISM TO HELP FINANCE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT GO INTO THE PROPERTY AND TO MAINTAIN THOSE IMPROVEMENT.

WE WILL BE USING THE PROCEEDS GENERATED BY BOND REVENUES THROUGH THE DISTRICT TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY INFRA E INFRASTRUCTURE. THE ROADS, THE UTILITY INSTALLATION, THE DRAINAGE INSTALLATION, AND THEN LATER ON, THAT DISTRICT CAN SERVE AS THE -- IN CONCERT WITH THE PROPERTY ASSOCIATION. IT WILL SERVE AS THE MANAGING AUTHORITY AND MAINTAINING AUTHORITY FOR THE PRIVATE STREET NETWORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE COMMON LANDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE WETLANDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ARE TIED NEWSPAPER A PRESERVE DESI N DESIGNATION.

AND FOR GENERAL IMPROVEMENTS AS NECESSARY FOR THAT.

IN IS A HOA WITH TAXING POWER. BUT PROVIDES A ONE THING THAT A NONCDB DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR, AND THIS IS GUARANTEED REVENUE. BECAUSE THE CDB ASSESSMENTS ARE WORKED IN YOUR TAX BILL. UNLIKE A REGULAR HOA THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH QUARTERLY COLLECTIONS.

GUARANTEED REVENUE COMING IN AND ENSURES THAT THE FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS ARE ENTERTAINED. ADVANCE FOR A MOMENT.

BY WAY OF HISTORY. NEED TO GO BACK IN TIME A LITTLE BIT. BACK ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS A PROJECT OUT HERE CALLED THE PRESERVE OF GATOR TRACE. AND SAVANNAH AND DIFFERENT N S NAMES. APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY THE CITY FOR APPROXIMATELY 800 UNIT. THE KEY OF THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME WAS THE ACCESS PATH WHICH WAS GOING TO USE GATOR TRACE BOULEVARD COMING UP TO PROVIDE PRIMARY ACCESS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA HERE.

WITH A SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS COMING OUT OF DICKSON.

ALSO KEY TO THAT WAS A RATHER EXTENSIVE IMPACTS THROUGH THIS ROAD. COMING THROUGH HERE AND THERE AND IMPACTING REVENUES FAIRLY HEAVILY.

AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME A FAIRLY HEAVY DENSE DEVELOPMENT AREA IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THESE BUILDINGS WERE ALL 30-PLUS UNITS EACH.

MULTISTORY STRUCTURES. THESE ARE ALL 16-UNIT BUILDINGS.

EACH MULTISTORY STRUCTURES. IN WILL BE THE COMMON RECREATION AREA IN THIS PARTICULAR REGION HERE THROUGH GATOR TRACE.

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AND WEDS LOWER DENSITY UNION, FOUR UNITS PER BUILDING IN THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE WORLD AND TOWN HOME UNIT HERE.

AND CULTER PROVIDED A PROPERTY AND WILL DO A NEW PROPOSAL AND THAT PROPOSAL WILL LOOK LIKE THIS.

WE WENT FROM 800 PLUS UNITS TO ABOUT 650 UNITS.

AND KEPT ALL OF OUR PRIMARY SENSITIVE LANDS AND LEFT THEM ALONE. WE HAVE OVER 40 ACRES OF -- LET ME SLIDE UP HERE. WE HAVE OVER 40 ACRES OF WETLAND AND UPLAND PRESERVE AREAS IN THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THAT. WE ARE LEAVING THAT ALONE.

WE HAVE INTERNAL OPEN SPACE AREAS IN OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU CAN SEE. AND WHAT WE TRY BUILD INTO THIS WAS A APPRECIATION OF THE HABITAT ON THE PROPERTY BY ENCOURAGING AND DEVELOPING A RECREATIONAL LOOP TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WALK IN BOTH A SIDEWALK ENVIRONMENT AND THEN THEY GET TO WALK THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTED AREAS ON THE PROPERTY.

I WILL NOTE THAT A RECREATION COMPLEX IS HERE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AWAY FROM MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS OF GATOR TRACE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITED BECAUSE TWO FAMILY VILLAS.

THESE ARE ATTACHED TO FAMILY HOMES AND WE WILL SHOW YOU TO INDICATE THAT THEIR IMPACTS AND THEIR VALUES AND SO FORTH.

OUR TOWN HOME COMMUNITY ARE HERE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND ALONG OUR MAIN EORNTRY ROAD. NOW, YOU CAN SAY THAT THERE IS NOT A RADICAL SHIFT BETWEEN 508 AND 650.

THERE MAY NOT BE IN SOME PERSPECTIVES, BUT ABLE THROUGH THE ACQUISITION OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES THROUGH U.S. HIGHWAY 1, TAKE OTHER UNITS THAT WOULD IMPACTED NEGATIVE SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS AND MOVED INTO AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY IMPACTED WITH PEPPER AND OTHER INVASIVES.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT WE THINK GET A BETTER PROJECT AND COME BACK LATER TO TALK OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND GO FROM THERE.

ADVANCE FORWARD. LOWER RENDERING OF THE NATURE PATH WALKING THROUGH THE WOODS AND WETLAND AREAS.

THIS IS A TYPICAL SECTION. ELEVATED SECTIONS OF ELEVATED BOARDWALK ACROSS THE WETTEST AREAS AND ILLUSTRATIONS OF WHAT YOU COULD SEE -- THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL FINAL DESIGN BUT THE RENDERING THAT GIVES YOU WHAT OUR INTEREST IS.

WHEN I TALK OF BRIDGES, IF YOU KNOW THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW THERE IS A LARGE WETLAND MASS THAT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH HERE AND STRETCHES OVER TO THIS AREA THROUGH HERE.

WE HAVE BRIDGING THAT PARTICULAR PORTION THERE.

AND THIS PARTICULAR PORTION THERE.

THIS IS AN UPLAND HAMMOCK AREA THAT WILL BE LEFT ALONE WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF A SMALL LITTLE COMMUNITY GAZEBO PLATFORM AREA. SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, SIT AND COMMUNION WITH NATURE, BE ONE WITH THE BUGS AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO FROM THERE.

ONE OF THE UNIQUE ASPECTS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS ITS PROXIMITY SO SAVANNAH LAKES. A TWO-EDGED SWORD AND YOU HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF DRAINAGE BUT POSITIVE IN THE OVERALL PROJECT BECAUSE WE ARE SHOWING TWO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE INTO THE PARK A S AREAS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AERIAL HERE, YOU WILL SEE THIS WHITE LINE THAT RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH THIS LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC.

AND IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU KNOW THIS THAT COMES UP THERE PAST THE CAMPGROUND AND THE DOG PARK AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. AS YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR, THIS LITTLE WHITE LINE HERE AND CONTINUING THROUGH PART OF THE PARK IS PART OF THE EAST COAST GREENWAY THAT RUNS THEORETICALLY FROM MAINE TO KEY WEST. IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY IN THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE WORLD BEGIN WHEN YOU COME ACROSS FROM NORTH A 1 A, WORKS ITS WAY DOWNTOWN, WORKS ITS WAY FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS DOWN TO SAVANNAH ROAD.

HITS THAT LITTLE TRAILHEAD THAT WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED.

AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND EVERYONE ELSE ARE WORKING ON COMPLETING THAT MISSING LINK TO PROVIDE FOR THIS CONTINUOUS TRAIL. AT LEAST DOWN TO MIDWAY ROAD.

ULTIMATELY THAT TRAIL WILL GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JENSON BEACH

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AND CONTINUE FURTHER SOUTH THROUGH MARTIN COUNTY AND DOWN TOWARD THE KEYS. THAT IS A RESOURCE THAT WE BELIEVE IS A NET POSITIVE AND WE ARE MAKING EVERY AVAILABLE ACCESSIBILITY POINT FOR THE FOLKS TO GET INTO THIS.

THERE WILL NOT BE VEHICULAR ASPECTS AVAILABLE THROUGH THESE POINTS. I SAY "ROUTINE"AND TIES BACK TO OUR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT ALL RIGHT, BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS IS A SERIES OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES. BROUGHT NEWSPAPER THAT.

ALL OF THESE HOMES WILL EITHER ABUT UP TO OUR PROPERTY BUFFERS, OUR WETLAND RESOURCES, LAKE RESOURCES OR IN SOME CASES, THEY COME UP TO ADJOINING PROPERTY LINES.

WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO MINIMIZE BACK-TO-BACK LOT CONNECTIONS AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. SO THERE YOU HAVE THE SHORT VERSION OF THE -- OF THE OVERALL PLAN.

NOW WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE ALSO COMES THE STUFF THAT YOU WILL NEVER SEE. AND IT KIND OF MAKES IT CRITICAL TO SURVIVING AND LIVING IN FLORIDA.

AND I SPEAK NOW OF DRAINAGE. THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

ALTHOUGH LOOKS VERY, VERY BUSY, THE NEXT SLIDE PRETTY MUCH GIVES YOU THE GUTS OF IT. THE WATERS WITHIN THIS PROJECT WILL, THROUGH A SERIES OF PIPES, SWALES, LAKES, DRY RETENTION SYSTEM, ULTIMATELY ALL DISCHARGE INTO THE LARGE WETLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT. THAT WETLAND WILL THEN DISCHARGE INTO THE EXISTING HEADWATERS OF WHAT IS LOCALLY REFERRED TO AS PLAT'S BRANCH. THIS IS BASICALLY A DITCH THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACK SIDE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALONGSIDE U.S. 1 AND RUNS SOUTH FOR SOME DISTANCE, TURNS RIGHT, HEADS WEST AND GOES TO THE PLAT BRANCH WATER RETENTION AND DISCHARGES INTO THE ST. LUCIE RIVER NORTH FORK.

ONE CRITICAL POINT FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP IN MIND AND ONE ABSOLUTE OBLIGATION THAT WE ARE COMMITTED OR REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO, IN OUR POST DEVELOPMENT CONDITION WE CAN NOT DISCHARGE MORE WATER YOU HAVE A THE SITE THAN OCCURS IN ITS PREDEVELOPMENT CONDITION.

WHATEVER MOTHER NATURE IS DUMPING YOU HAVE A OF THAT SITE IN THE PREDEVELOPMENT, AN LET THE ENGINEERS DO PART OF IT ALL, WE DO THE SAME THING. WE DO IT AFTER THE INSTALLATION OF THE CONTROL STRUCTURE HERE. IN THIS AREA HERE THAT WILL REGULATE THE FLOW OF WATER YOU HAVE A THE SITE.

ALL DEVELOPMENTS -- AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN THIS LONG NOW UNDERSTAND THIS, ALL DEVELOPMENTS IN FLORIDA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. EVERYBODY HAS TO MEET THE SAME BASIC RULES. NOW IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE RULES SAY YOU WORK TO A DIFFERENT DESIGN STORM AND USUALLY A -- SOME -- I FORGET THE EXACT TERMINOLOGY, BUT A DESIGN THRESHOLD. EVERYBODY LIVES BY THAT SAME THRESHOLD. IF WE GET A UNEXPECTED 500-YEAR DOWNPOUR, I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THERE AREN'T GOING TO BE PROBLEMS. I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU NOT PROBLEMS IN THE ENTIRE AREA, BUT MAY BE PROBLEMS IN LOCAL AREAS.

DESIGN AND CODE PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE OBLIGATED AND WE WILL BE MEETING ALL OF THE STANDARDS IT NEEDS TO MEET WITH REGARDS TO DISCHARGE. NOW IN DOING SO, WE ARE SUBJECT TO THE CURRENT DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

BY CURRENT, I MEAN THOSE IN EFFECT IN 2022.

OTHER AREA PROJECTS WERE SUBJECT TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN EFFECT WHEN THEY WERE PERMITTED. AND THEY WERE PERMITTED MANY YEARS AGO. NOT THAT RADICAL OF CHANGE IN THE BASICS OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND MAY HAVE BEEN MINOR TWEAKS TO IT. ALL THIS MEANS IS WE HAVE TO HOLD MORE WATER ON OUR SITE. WHEN WE DID THAT AND STARTED DOING OUR MODELS BECAME APPARENT THAT IT MIGHT BE HAVING A PROBLEM AS IT RELATE TO THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.

WE KNOW THE AREA AND GENERAL FLOWS IN THE AREA FROM NORTHWEST RATHER TO SOUTH EAST. THAT IS THE GENERAL SURFACE FLOW IN THE AREA AND WE ARE TRAINING OUT THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR POINT THROUGH HERE. OUR MODELING HAS SHOWN WE WILL NEED TO CONSTRUCT A SMALL PERIMETER BERM.

SHOULDICS TEND OUT TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THERE.

THAT BERM IS AT THE REQUIRED ELEVATION TO REDIRECT ANY WATER

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COMING FROM OUR SITE SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. NOW I KNOW THAT IN THE CURRENT REASON, IN THE HEAVIEST OF R S RAINS, THERE ARE ENCROACHMENTS OUT OF THESE WETLANDS ON TO THE GATOR TRACE PROPERTY.

IN SHOULD CORRECT THAT. THIS SHOULD KEEP IT FROM OCCURRING. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'LL LITTLE BERM WITHIN THE COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY.

NOT ON GATOR TRACE PROPERTY. IT WILL BE WE COORDINATED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF PUTTING BERM WITHIN THEIR RIGHT-OF-WAY BECAUSE IT HELPS TO REDIRECT FLOWS THAT THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH.

ONE THING I NEED TO POINTRYONE'. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AREA THROUGH HERE, THAT IS 130 FEET. AND THIS IS ABOUT 70 FEET.

75 FEET. I STAND TO BE CORRECTED ON THE PRECISE NUMBERS, BUT THE POINT IS, THERE IS AN EXISTING COUNTY ROAD AND DRAINAGE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT SEPARATES OUR PROPERTY LINE FROM GATOR TRACE. WE ARE NOT PHYSICALLY CONTIGUOUS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE BUT WE ARE NOT. A RIGHT-OF-WAY IN BETWEEN.

THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY HAS NEVER BEEN OPENED.

TO MY AMONG IT HAS NEVER BEEN MAINTAINED AND THERE AS COUNTY PROPERTY. NOW WE -- THE COUNTY IS NOT DECLINED TO VACATE IT. NOR ARE WE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE IT. BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THAT WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DRAINAGE AND THEIR PARTICULAR DRAINAGE NEEDS ARE ADDRESSED.

AS I SAID A MOMENT AGO, WE ADDRESSED THAT THROUGH PROVISION OF -- OOPS, WRONG DIRECTION. THROUGH A SMALL BERM THAT RUNS ALONGSIDE THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE THAT WILL REDETECTIVE THE WATERS AWAY FROM THE PROPERTIES. NOW THE NECK ITEM THAT THEY ASK WATER AND SEWER. WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? OUR SERVICE PROVIDER IS FPUA. OUR SERVICE CONNECTION U.S. 1 AT THE INTERSECTION OF DICKSON AND U.S. HIGHWAY 1.

AND THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH MARKET AND U.S. 1.

AND OUR BASIC PLAN OF A LOOPING SYSTEM TO BRING WATER IN -- FOR SAKE OF DISCUSSION, BRING THE WARE IN FROM THE NORTHERN CONNECTION AND ALLOW IT TO PASS THROUGH -- DO WHAT IT HAS GOT TO DO INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT AND WE WILL BRING IT OUT HERE THROUGH MARKET. IN FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSIONS WITH THE UA, THEY WERE NOT AT ALL TOO WILD OF THE IDEA OF US DOING A 7 700-FOOT PLUS-OR-MINUS DIRECTIONAL BORE THAT THEY COULD NOT GET TO MAINTAIN. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

DRILL A HOLE, A DIRECTIONAL BORE ON THIS PROJECT, GO UNDERNEATH THE WETLANDS, PRESERVE AREA, AND DO IT BY THE CLUBHOUSE AND BRING IT BACK OUT .

THEY NIXED THAT IDEA. THEY WANT US TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING FPUA LINES IN GATOR TRACE.

THIS MAKES A LOT OF TECHNICAL SENSE WHEN YOU SIT BACK AND THINK OF IT FOR A MINUTE. BUT PROVIDING CONNECTION, YOU PROVIDE GREATER PRESSURE ENHANCEMENTS, NOT ONLY TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO THE GATOR TRACE COMMUNITY BECAUSE GETS THAT DEAD ENDNESS YOU HAVE A OF OUR LINES AND PROVIDE FOR BETTER WATER QUALITY AND MAINTAINS BETTER FLOW THROUGH THE PIPES.

WHEN YOU HAVE STAGNATED WATER, IT TENDS TO DO NASTY THINGS TO THE PIPES AND WILL KEEP IT FLOWING ALL THE BETTER.

WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN AN EASEMENT AND A 25-FOOT-WIDE TO 20-FOOT LAND FOR EASEMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR THE CONNECTION.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT IS CAST ON US BY THE FPUA AND WE ARE WORKING TO ENDEAVOR TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

INTERNAL TO THE COMMUNITY I F ITSELF, MAKE SURE THERE ARE FIRE HYDRANT PLACED WITHIN THE PROPER DISTANCES AND SEPARATION STANDARDS. IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PACKET, I BELIEVE A GRAPHIC WITH ALL THE CIRCLES AND GIVING YOU A COVERAGE. WE HAVE ABOUT 25 HYDRANTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE COVERAGE FOR THAT. SO TRANSPORTATION.

THE ONE THAT WE LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THE MOST.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU WILLINGS IN THE THAT THERE IS NO CONNECTION -- YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS NO CONNECTION TO THE GATOR TRACE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE NEVER WERE PROPOSING ONE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ONE NOW.

OUR ACCESSES ARE COMING YOU HAVE A OF A RECONSTRUCTED INTERSECTION AT DICKSON AND U.S. 1.

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THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEEDED TO GO BACK AND ACQUIRE ONE OF THE PARCELS SUBJECT TO THE LAND USE PETITION TONIGHT IS TO MAKE THESE PARTICULAR CURVES AND ALIGNMENTS.

YOU WILL NOTICE THIS WILL REQUIRE A REDENYING OF A PORTION OF DICKSON DRIVE INTO UNNAMED STREET AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

WE ARE NOT SURE IF IT WILL KEEP THE SAME NAME OR MARKETING NAME.

A LITTLE MANEUVER THROUGH HERE. THIS PORTION.

THIS IS A LITTLE BLOW-UP OF THE AREA.

THIS IS CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY WHICH IS A RECONFIGURATION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR DICKSON DRIVE.

YOU CAN SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS NOR PARTICULAR AREA CONSISTS OF A CENTRAL ROAD LANE WITH BIKE LANES, AND TWO EXIT LANES.

ONE A DEDICATED LEFT. ONE A THROUGH-RIGHT COMBINATION WITH BIKE LANES ON THE FAR SIDE. ALL OF THIS WILL BE PAVED TO CITY AND COUNTY STANDARDS. AND ONCE WE GET PAST THE INTERSECTION HERE, THE STREETS WILL BE UNDER THE ULTIMATE MAINTENANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. BUT THEY WILL, OF COURSE, ALL BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS. BY BEING IN A CDB DOES NOT HAVE US TO DO PUBLIC WORK STANDARDS. WE MUST CONFORM TO THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS AND ROADWAY STANDARDS.

THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER TO US. BACK TO THE OVERALL CIRCULATION POINTS AT THE MOMENT. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO STAFF REVIEW, WE WERE TARGETING ACCESS YOU HAVE A OF SOUTH MARKET AVENUE. AND A SECONDARY ACCESS OF THE FOUR-ACRE PARCEL THAT IS UNDER FOR CHANGE OF LAND USE.

THROUGH SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRAPPING AND THE COUNTY, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE LIMITED USE ACCESS CONNECTION THAT WE ARE SEEKING TO GET HERE ON U.S.

1 WAS NOT GOING TO FLY AND THUS KOLTER MADE THE DECISION TO COME IN AND WORK ON ADDITIONAL LANDS FOR THIS INTERSECTION TO MAKE IT WORK FOR US AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

IN DOING SO, TOOK AWAY THE NECESSITY TO HAVE ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SOUTH MARKET AVENUE.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE MAINTAINED EMERGENCY ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS HERE AT THE CUL-DE-SAC. THIS WILL BE A GATE-RESTRICTED.

BOX ONLY EMERGENCY ACCESS. GENERAL DAILY USE OF RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED AND WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. THIS WILL NOT BE AN ACTUALLY PAVED DRIVEWAY CONNECTION OR A PAVER CREEK OR PAVER GRASS KIND OF DEAL. BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY BE USED IN AN EMERGENCY. OUR PRIMARY ACCESS WILL BE THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD HERE.

IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT SOMETHING OCCURS AND WE HAVE TO GO USE THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, WE HAVE OPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT IS NOT A PRIMARY ACCESS POINT. NOW, WHILE KEEPING THE WETLANDS WE BELIEVE IT WAS A MAJOR DESIGN FEATURE FOR THIS PROJECT, ALSO A BIT OF A DESIGN HEADACHE BECAUSE IT CREATES AN ISOLATED AREA ON THE EASTERN PORTION THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN ON ITS ONE AND ONLY INTERNAL ACCESS ROUTE.

HOW DO YOU GET IN. HOW DO YOU GET OUT.

BECAUSE THAT IS WHY WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED ON THE LOWER END OF THE WORLD DOWN HERE A PROVISION FOR A SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO PASS THROUGH THE PARK AND OUT.

AGAIN, THIS WILL BE USED ONLY FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES IN THE EVENT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS THAT YOU NEED TO GET IN AND GET OUT. THIS IS WHERE WOULD YOU COME IN AND COME OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND PROVIDES THE ADEQUATE ACCESSES TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND GET.

OVERALL, TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS HAVE BEEN EVALUATED AND OTHER THAN THE NECESSARY ACTIVITIES AT THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THIS INTERSECTION, THERE ARE NO REQUIRED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENT.

OFFICIAL CAPACITY TO HANDLE THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE ARE NOT -- NOTHING HIT A TRIP WIRE YOU HAVE TWO GO HAVE TURN LANES AND IMPROVEMENTS AND GO AND DO SOMETHING LIKE OFFSITE.

THE ONLY THING WE ARE HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT IS THE FINAL GEOMETRY OF THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

OUR IMPROVEMENTS DO NOT INCLUDE A REALIGNMENT OF THE DOG LAKE AT THIS INTERSECTION. THE CURRENT DOG LAKE SET-UP WILL OPINION TAMPA SIGNAL TIMINGS WILL BE ADJUSTED AS NECESSARY, BUT THE CONFIGURATION WILL CONTINUE.

IN THE EVENT THAT A DETERMINATION MADE THAT EFFORTS

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SHOULD BE MADE TO TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT DOG LEG, ONE OF THE MAJOR HURDLES IS PROBABLY ALREADY OUT OF THE WAY THAT YOU AS AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THE TPO AND LET'S GO FIX THAT INTERSECTION. THAT IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO GO AND DO IT. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN DOING THOSE KIND OF FIXES IS RIGHT-OF-WAY ACCESSORY.

THE NICE PART ABOUT THIS -- IF YOU THINK PROACTIVELY AND OUT OF THE BOX, NOT A MAJOR PROBLEM HERE BECAUSE ALL THE STUFF ON THE WEST SIDE OF U.S. 1 IS OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

PUBLIC LAND. GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND NOT GO THROUGH THE TIMELY AND EXPENSIVE PROCESS OF PROPERTY ACCESSORY WHICH OFTEN IS EQUAL TO OR MORE THAN THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION IN A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT.

I DIGRESS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE CAPITAL PLANNING TO WORK AND IMPROVE OPERATIONS ALONG U.S. 1 IN THAT AREA. AS IT RELATES TO OUR PARTICULAR PROJECT, OUR INTERACTION. MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO COVER OUR POTENTIAL IMPACTS IN THAT AREA. YOU COME IN INTERSECTION AND COME IN THE COMMUNITY, A TYPICAL SECTION.

ILLUSTRIOUS SECTION. LANDSCAPING, INBOUND LANE.

WE ARE INCLUDING A -- A LANDSCAPE LAKE.

A LAKE FOR DECORATIVE PURPOSES. ANNOUNCING THE COMMUNITY.

CREATING A SENSE OF PLACE, A SENSE OF ARRIVAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THIS IS JUST A DIP CAL CROSS SECTION. COUNCIL BACK IN HERE AND LOOK AT IT HERE AGAINST, YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ARTIST AND MYSELF, THE PERSON WHO DREW THE OTHER DRAWING UP HERE. YOU GET THE IDEA.

A LANDSCAPING BERM. FUTURE LAKE.

A LITTLE FOUNTAIN. SOMETHING TO GIVE IDENTITY.

HOUSING. HOUSING.

WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY TWO TYPES. WE HAVE TOWN HOMES AND THESE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TOWN HOME PRODUCT TO BE BUILT IN HERE.

TWO-STORY TOWN HOMES. THEY ARE INTENDED FOR MIDDLE MARKET PERSON. THEY ARE MARKET RATE AND GOING TO BE IN THE 200 PLUS 2,000 3 300-PLUS RANGE AND THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS YOU SEE HERE. THE VILLA UNIT.

THE ILLUSTRATION. TWO MODELS OF THE BUILDING U S UNITS. ONE WE CALL THE COASTAL AND ONE THAT IS CALLED THE CRAFTSMAN. COASTAL IS TREATMENTS AND SHUDDERS ON THE LITTLE END OF THE BUILDING.

THE CRAFTSMAN IS A CRAFTSMAN STYLE AND STONE BARRIER.

NO TWO UNIT WILL BE THE SAME IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER AND THE COLOR COMBINATION WITHIN THEM WILL BE MUTED PASTELS, YOU KNOW CALM AND COMFORTABLE TERMS -- COLOR FOR THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

YOU CAN SEE THROUGH HERE. SO NOW WE ARE LOOPING BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED WITH ALL THIS WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS.

IN ORDER TO MAKE ALL OF THIS HAPPEN, WE HAVE TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THESE TWO PROPERTIES HERE ALONGSIDE USA 1. PARCEL 1 IS THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA. PARCEL 2 -- I HAVE THESE NUMBERED WRONG. I APOLOGIZE.

PARCEL 2 IS ITEM A ON THE AGENDA.

TAKING THESE FROM THE COMMERCIAL LANDS USE DESIGNATION TO A RESIDENTIAL LANDS USE DESIGNATION AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY CARRY OUT WHAT I HAVE BEEN DISCUSS BEING FOR THE LAST HA FEW MOMENTS.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION AND OUTLINED IN OUR AGENDA PACKET, WE BELIEVE WE COMPLETED ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN IT COMES TO CHANGE OF USE. THE NEXT ITEM WE MOVED INTO AFTER THAT, BEING SOMEWHAT PRESUMPTUOUS THAT WE WILL GET A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. NEXT ITEM IS THE ACTUAL PUD PLAN ITSELF. PUD PLAN IS AS I OUTLINED IT AND WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU. ALONG WITH THAT AND CONSISTENT WITH CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE INCLUDED A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY WILL BE PLATTED.

THIS WILL ALL BE FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP.

AND SO A PLAT IS REQUIRED INTO IT.

THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT IS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET WILL SERVE AS

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THE FOUNDATION FOR COMING FOR FINAL PLATS.

WHEN WE BRING FINAL PLATS IN, WE WILL PROBABLY BRING THEM IN PHASES. WE WILL NOT NECESSARILY BRING THEM IN THE WHOLE TIME AND BRING THEM IN INCREMENTALLY SO WE IDENTIFY PHASE CONSTRUCTION. TYPICALLY FOR LARGER PROJECTS.

TYPICALLY -- WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED UNIT IN HERE AND SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS -- A LITTLE OVER 130 ACRE.

SO WE WILL BRING THEM -- THE PLATS IN ACCORDINGLY AND RUN THEM FROM THERE SO WITH THAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OR OFFER MYSELF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

I RESPECTFULLY ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS THAT COME UP SHOULD YOU WISH ME TOO. AND I SHOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR ITEM 6 A. THAT THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AFFORD RECOMMENDATION I HAVE A APPROVAL TO 6 B TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THE ADOPTION OF LANDS USE AMENDMENTS.

THAT THE PLANNING AGENCY SUBMIT RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR 7 A ZONING AMENDMENT AND SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

AND THAT YOU FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR ITEM 7 B, WHICH IS OUR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE OVERALL SAVANNAH PRESERVE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SEPARATE ACTIONS NEED TO TAKE PLACE ON ALL OF THEM. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY CONDENSE ALL THE COMMENTS INTO ONE BECAUSE IT HELP TO SEE THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUE S QUESTIONS.

AND I WILL GO FROM THERE. >> JUST ONE SECOND, FOLKS.

VENNIS, DO YOU WANT TO DELINEATE THE Q & A ON THIS TO EACH PARTICULAR LINE ITEM OR OPEN THIS UP RIGHT NOW?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: NO. I THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH THE CITY'S POWERPOINT FIRST AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM PERTAINING TO ANY OF THE APPLICATIONS, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE QUESTIONS WILL BE RELATED TO THE PLAN ITSELF.

NOT TO THE ZONING. >> VENNIS GILMORE: NOT TO THE ZONING, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE MOTIONS FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS FIRST. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: EVERYBODY GET THAT? ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE ZONING ISSUE, THE LAND USE PORTION OF THIS.

OR IS THIS GOING TO BE CONSOLIDATED DOWN INTO THE FINAL

ACTION? >> YES, I DON'T -- I -- IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ZONING, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION. IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE CURRENT STATE LEGISLATION?

>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

THE RECENT ACTION UP IN TALLAHASSEE EFFECTED A FINITE NUMBER OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS IN A FINITE PERIOD.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STATUTES.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT STATUTES -- AGAIN I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY AND I AM NOT PRETENDING TO BE ONE.

I AM GIVING YOU A LAND PLANNER ASSESSMENT OF IT.

STATUTES THAT ESTABLISH THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THOSE THAT AUTHORIZE THOSE PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICTS.

EVERYTHING I HEARD FROM OUR ATTORNEYS ON THIS IS THAT, NO, IT IS NOT A LIKE CONDITION. SO I DO NOT FORESEE THERE BEING -- AT LEAST AS IT STANDS TODAY AT WHATEVER TIME IT IS ON MAY 9, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. AND THIS IS THE BEST I CAN

REPORT TO YOU. >> MARCIA BAKER: THANK YOU.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: BOB? >> BOB BURDGE: THE QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THE CDD. THE PROPERTY OWN WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT AND TAKING CARE OF IT AFTERWARDS FROM WHAT

I UNDERSTAND THE CDDS. >> UNDER AMOUNTLY THE CDD STARTS WITH A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, BOARD OF GOVERNORS, WHATEVER ONE AT TO CALL IT. AND TYPICALLY THE DEVELOPER AND THROUGH A PRESCRIBED PERIOD OF TIME THROUGH STATUTE, IT SLOWLY TRANSFERS OVER TO THE HOA WITHIN ABOUT -- I THINK ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, YOU GET MORE AND MORE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.

AS PEOPLE COME IN, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET INTO TAMPA.

>> BOB BURDGE: MAY GET TRANSFERRED IN A SENSE BUT STAYS BY ITSELF AS AN INDEPENDENT DISTRICT AND PEOPLE ARE ELECTED FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE CDD. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE MEMBERS

OF THE HOA. >> BOB BURDGE: HERE IS A

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QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK. CDD BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO MAINTAIN.

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN RELIEF? >> BOB BURDGE: TAX RELIEF.

>> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF. >> BOB BURDGE: FOR SOME MEANS THEY OUGHT TO BE FOR THE SIMPLE PURPOSE THAT THE CDD TAKES CARE OF THE -- THE STREETS AND THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE. AND THE CITY HAS -- THE CITY

DOESN'T COME IN TO DO ANYTHING. >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IF I AM A PROPERTY OWNER THROUGH HERE, DO I SEE A REDUCTION IN MY PROPERTY TAX BILL FOR THE MAINTENANCE CHARGES AND ACTIVITIES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN HERE FOR THIS PUBLIC?

>> BOB BURDGE: THE CITY WILL NEVER HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND

REPAVE THOSE ROADS. >> THAT, MR. BUR DGE WILL BE A STATUTORY CHANGE. IN THE CDD THAT IS I WORKED WITH IN CITY THE ST. LUCIE OR FORT PIERCE IN THE COUNTY, FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, YOU GET AN ANNUAL TAX BILL EVERY YEAR AND THE RIGHT AND PRIVILEGE OF PAYING YOUR CITY TAXES AT THE FULL RATE AND THE CDD TAXES AT THE FULL RATE.

THERE ARE NO DISCOUNTS. >> BOB BURDGE: RIGHT, WHERE I LIVE -- FORTUNATELY I DON'T LIVE IN A CDD.

AT LEAST MY PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

I AM VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT TOO. BECAUSE ABOUT $1,000 A YEAR.

>> THIS WILL NOT THAT BE MUCH. WE RAN -- AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE CDD NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN GET THAT YOU INFORMATION IF YOU WANT, BUT THE NUMBERS THAT WE RAN -- BECAUSE WE ARE DOING ROAD, DRAINAGE AND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPR S IMPROVEMENTS, IT IS A MUCH, MUCH LOWER NUMBER.

>> BOB BURDGE: THEY ARE LUCKY. YEAH, OKAY.

LET ME SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE.

THE -- HAS NOTHING TO DO WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT.

I WILL GO TO THE SECOND PHASE. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRAILS AND IT IS CALLED THE RECREATIONAL AREA.

IF YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> SITE PLAN ISSUES, LET'S WAIT. ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THE ZONING WE WILL DEAL WITH NOW AN THEN AS THEY SUGGEST WE WILL ROLL THROUGH THIS. JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE IN THE AUDIENCE. I HAVE A SENSE THERE WILL BE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THE SITE PLAN ISSUES WILL BE DEALT WITH IN THE FOLLOWING PHASES AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS. WE MAY NOT DEAL WITH IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WILL BE GETTING TO IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ZONING ISSUES FROM THE BOARD? I WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ZONING ISSUES AT THIS TIME.

ANYBODY LIKE TO COMMENT? COME ON DOWN.

>> IT WILL BE THE FUTURE LAND USE FIRST.

>> BRAD: RIGHT, EXACTLY. SORRY, JENNIS.

SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE

BOARD FOR A MOTION. >> MARCIA BAKER: I MOVE

APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> BRAD: PLEASE, COME ON DOWN. BEFORE -- HOLD THE MOTION, COME

DOWN TO FROM THE LECTERN. >> CAN I SPEAK FROM HERE?

>> NO, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE LANDS USE ONLY. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: CORRECT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: GOOD

AFTERNOON. >> MY NAME IS JOANNE DRISCOL AND I LIVE ON GATOR TRACE. I LIVE ON GATOR TRACE ROAD.

OF COURSE I HAVE A CONCERN. YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING TOWN HOUSES, UP AND DOWN.

VILLAS. I LIVE IN A VILLA.

I LIVE BESIDE THE SAVANNAH, AND I AM IN THE CUL-DE-SAC IN THE BACK EAST. I HAVE A CONCERN FOR OUR WILDLIFE. YOU KNOW, WITH EVERY VENTURE WITH EVERY SUPPOSED STRUCTURE ALWAYS COME SURPRISE.

AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TOWNHOUSES BEING TALL I AM CONCERNED ABOUT RUNOFF. I AM CONCERNED -- NO ONE HAS SAID THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT KOLTER IS PUTTING UP HAS THEIR OWN RECREATION. HAS THEIR OWN POOL.

HAVE THEIR OWN CLUBHOUSE. HAVE ANY OF THOSE FACILITIES.

BUT WE HAVE IT. AND I JUST THINK GATOR TRACE HAS BEEN AN IN AND OUT COMMUNITY. YES WE HAVE SECURITY.

WE HAVE CAMERAS. WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT EVENTUALLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL OCCUPY THESE NEW HOMES ARE GOING TO WANT TO PLAY GOLF.

THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A POOL.

THEY WANT TO HAVE A CLUBHOUSE TO JOIN IN ON.

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WHY ARE THESE NOT IN THE PLAN FOR A COMMUNITY OF THIS SIZE? THAT IS MY QUESTION. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: THANK YOU. MAYBE WE WILL GET ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION WHEN WE GET INTO THE SITE PLAN.

>> I WOULD ENJOY THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COMMENT.

COME ON DOWN, PLEASE. ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP IT SEPARATING TO THE ZONING ISSUE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE

ISSUE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, PEGGY L ANEARS. I LIVE AT GATOR TRACE.

42 GATOR TRACE ROAD WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND WHERE THE BERM IS GOING TO BE BUILT. HANDS IT IS ONE OF MY MAIN ISSUES, WHEN I MOVED THERE 21 YEARS AGO WE HAD A BERM, AND IT WAS SIX, SEVEN FEET BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS OVER MY HEAD.

NOW THERE IS NO BERM. IT IS TOTALLY EVEN AND WE GET RUNOFF FROM THAT BODY OF WATER THAT IS BEHIND US, AND OUR BACK YARD FLOODS. ANY TIME WE HAVE A LOT OF RAIN AND EVERYTHING. MY CONCERN IS -- THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO PUT A BERM THERE. ARE THEY GOING TO MAINTAIN IT? HOW HIGH IS THE BERM GOING TO SOMEBODY IN YOU KNOW, AND WILDLIFE TOO. JOANNE WAS VERY -- ELOQUENT WHEN SHE PUT IT. WE ARE VERY CONCERNED OF THE WILDLIFE. GOPHER TURTLES.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE RELOCATED? WE HAVE BOBCATS, RACCOONS, SANDHILL CRANE. THEY LIVE BACK THERE AND HAVE THEM COME INTO OUR YARDS AND I AM CONCERNED OF THE WILDLIFE ALSO BUT THE MAIN CONCERN IS THE BERM.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.

IS THAT GOING TO PUT -- BE PUT IN PREVIOUS TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND WHATEVER. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: THAT IS ON MY LIST TOO TO INVESTIGATE WHEN WE GET INTO THE SITE PLAN DISCUSSION OF THIS. YOU HAVE A VERY VALID POINT,

THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU PLEASE SIGN IN.

MA'AM, I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME. CAN YOU SIGN IN.

>> OKAY. >> IF YOU JUST PRINT YOUR NAME.

THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVID EARL.

REPRESENTING GATOR TRACE MASTER PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

WE WILL HAVE COMMENTS, AND I THINK THEY ARE DIRECTED TO THE SITE PLAN WHICH I WILL STAND UP AND TALK ABOUT THEN.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: THAT IS FINE.

ANY OTHER COMMENT AT THIS TIME? OKAY.

THIS IS JUST IN MOTION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.

WE DID HAVE A MOTION FROM MISS BAKER.

AND A SECOND TO APPROVE? >> CORRECT.

>> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES. >> ALEXANDER EDWARDS: YES.

>> MARCIA BAKER: YES. >> HAROLD ALBURY: YES.

>> BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES.

[b. Future Land Use Map Amendment (2 of 2) - The Preserve at Savannah Lakes - The East side of S. US Highway 1 at the intersection of Dickson Drive and lying North of the existing Gator Trace Planned Development]

>> VENNIS GILMORE: NEXT ITEM IS ANOTHER FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMOUNT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

AND MR. MURPHY ACTUALLY STATED IT AS PARCEL 1, WHICH ACTUALLY CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS. AND THESE TWO PARCELS ARE SEEKING A FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO RM RESIDENTIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. BECAUSE ONE OF THE PARCELS OF THE FOUR PARCELS HAVE RM, M M MEDIUM-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND CONSISTENT WITH CITY CODE 1 125-136, CITY CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE.

THE PLANNING BOARD HAVE THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: JUST TO GO THROUGH THE MECHANICS OF THE PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> I AM CONFUSED.

WE JUST VOTED ON A. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: RIGHT.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL OF B. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: WE INDUSTRIAL TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN UP FOR PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME.

MR. MURPHY, IS YOUR PRESENTATION ALREADY KIND OF DONE WITH THIS

OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY. >> NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.

DENNIS MURPHY, CULPEPPER REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.

I STAND ON MY PRIOR COMMENT AND THAT IT BE FORWARDED IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: ANY COMMENTS ON THIS FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT, TWO OF TWO.

SITE PLAN WILL BE DEALT WITH MOMENTARILY.

I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. A MOTION PLEASE.

>> MARCIA BAKER: MOTION OF APPROVAL OF B.

>> NICHELLE CLEMONS: SECONDED IT.

>> ALEXANDER EDWARDS: YES. >> MARCIA BAKER: YES.

>> HAROLD ALBURY: YES. >> BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM.

>> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES.

[a. Zoning Atlas Map Amendment - The Preserve at Savannah Lakes - The East side of S. US Highway 1 at the intersection of Dickson Drive and lying North of the existing Gator Trace Planned Development]

>> OKAY. NOW WE HAVE A ZONING ATLAS MAP

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AMENDMENT WHICH CONSISTENCY OF THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD. AND THIS INCLUDES THE SITE PLAN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 132.7 ACRE PLUS OR MINUS. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE ZONING MAP. THE ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT IS TO AMENDS FROM C 3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, THREE PARCELS AND PD, PLANS DEVELOPMENT, PARCEL 1 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST THAT IS SKINT WITH CITY CODE SECTION 125-212 AND THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY EFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE.

AND BEFORE IS YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AND THESE ARE THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD. THANKS.

THANK YOU. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: SO VENNIS, AT THIS CONJUNCTION ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SITE PLAN BE

UNDER THIS LINE ITEM OR ITEM B. >> VENNIS GILMORE: UNDER THIS LINE ITEM. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: QUESTIONS

FOR STAFF, PLEASE. >> I WILL JUST ASK --

>> MARCIA BAKER: EXCUSE ME. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: MISS

BAKER. >> MARCIA BAKER: I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND I CAN'T SPOT THEM ANYWHERE ON ANY OF THESE MAPS. ARE THERE RAILROAD TRACKS

ANYWHERE ON THIS PROPERTY? >> I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.

I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.

>> NO, THERE ARE NOT. >> THE RAILROAD TRACKS ARE WAY

NORTH OF THIS. >> NORTH AND EAST.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: IN LIGHT OF THIS, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR MR. MURPHY TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.

>> IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MISS BAKER.

THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE THE SAVANNAHS.

THE ROLLED RODE LINE -- ASSUMING YOU ARE TALKING OF THE LINES.

THE RAILROAD IS MILEISH EAST OF OUR PROPERTY LINE.

THERE ARE NO RAILROAD TRACKS ON THIS SITE.

>> MARCIA BAKER: JUST GOTTEN DISCOMBOBULATED WITH ALL THIS.

>> THAT IS FINE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN ADD WITHOUT ENCROACH INTO TERRITORY, AND GOING BACK AND FORTH.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: I THINK HE MIGHT BE HERE FOR A BIT.

ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN UP PICK LICK COMMENT TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR MR. MURPHY.

ANYTHING ELSE? WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I WILL HOLD MY QUESTION.

USUALLY I JUMP IN FIRST, BUT IN LIGHT OF THIS PROCEDURALLY, I WILL WAIT. LET YOU FOLKS PROCEED.

QUESTIONS FOR MR. MURPHY. >> JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION.

THE TRAIL YOU PROPOSE FOR THE WETLANDS AREA.

THAT WILL BE STRICTLY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY,

RIGHT? >> YES.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD BY THE PUBLIC.

THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A PUBLIC PARK AREA FOR RECREATIONAL USE.

THE OTHER THING -- NOW -- AND PLEASE EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE THIS IS QUITE EXTENSIVE. AND I TRIED TO LOOK, BUT I CAN'T -- WHERE IS THE -- HOW ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO BE RECEIVING

THEIR UNITED STATES MAIL? >> AH, THE QUESTION OF THE DAY.

>> BECAUSE I KNOW THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS -- THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS EXIST WHETHER ITS NOW OR THREE MONTHS FROM NOW WHEN THE POST OFFICE COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, GUESS WHAT, WE WILL NOT LET HAVE YOU MAIL BOXES IN FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY.

>> THEY HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT. SO WE ARE AHEAD OF THAT GAME.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> OUR INTENTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER PERONA. OUR INTENTION IS THE WAY THE POST OFFICE WORKS RIGHT NOW -- PARTICULAR TAKE STEP BACK.

THE WAY THE POST OFFICE WORKS NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT OR MODERATE-SIZED DEVELOPMENT, THE CONCEPT OF DRIVEWAY DELIVERY FOR THE MAIL APPARENTLY IS NOW FOREIGN.

IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. THEY LOOK TO DO GANG BOXES.

THEY LOOK TO DO THE CENTRAL LOCATION POINTS WHERE THEY PUT IN YOU WHERE THE DEVELOPER WILL PUT THE COMMUNITY OF MAIL BOXES AND A LITTLE CUBE AND GO FROM THERE.

OUR INTENTION IS TO -- AND -- YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT ON THE SCALE OF THESE DRAWINGS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZOOM DRAWINGS IN YOUR -- IN YOUR SITE PLAN PACKET FOR THE CLUBHOUSE, YOU WILL SEE AT LEAST ONE SHADED AREA IN THE CLUBHOUSE AREA.

ANOTHER ONE. DOWN BELOW.

I DON'T KNOW -- VENEZUELA VEBZ IT IS NOT THAT GREAT.

>> YOU WILL NOT SEE IT AT THAT SCALE.

THERE IS A MAIL KIOSK BUILDING. A CENTRAL MAIL RECEIVING.

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WE ARE GOING -- AND WHEN THE ACCESS COMING IN YOU HAVE A OF -- AS I SAID EARLIER, WITH THE ACCESS COMING IN YOU HAVE A THE SOUTH MARKET WAS THE PRIMARY, THAT MADE SENSE.

AND IT STILL DOES BECAUSE THAT IS OUR RECREATION CENTER -- CAN

YOU ZOOM OUT TO THE BIG PICTURE. >> BOB BURDGE: THE PEOPLE ON

THE EAST SIRED. >> THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONCERN AND WE ARE MAKING EVERY PITCH POSSIBLE TO THE POST OFFICE TO THAT NORTHERN LITTLE SEMI CIRCLE WHETHER I SERVE AS BOTH A SCHOOL BUS PICKUP AND A MAIL CAST P PICK-UP. THAT WILL THEORETICALLY TO CLEARLY IMPACT THE EASTERN PART, THE HOW IT IS SET UP AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING SMALLER BECAUSE THE NUMBERS FOR THE -- FOR THOSE FOLK WHO ARE CLOSER TO U.S. 1.

BUT WE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS STRUGGLING HOW TO DO THIS AND HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK EFFE EFFECTIVELY.

>> BOB BURDGE: NOW I AM GOING TO THROW ANOTHER THING IN.

>> OKAY. >> BOB BURDGE: IS THE DEVELOPER PLANNING ON COVERING IT WITH SOME SORT OF -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE I NOTICED -- I ALSO NOTICE THAT DEVELOPER, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS COVERAGE FOR THESE TYPE OF MAIL BOXES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN THE EVENING THAT THEY NEED TO BE COVERED. AND THEY ALSO NEED TO BE LIT.

>> OUR -- OUR CURRENT -- OUR CURRENT PLANS.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE BEEN EMPHASIZING TO THEM THAT THESE -- BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME, THESE WILL BE UNDER A COVERED SHELTER. ANY OF THE ONES THAT WE AS A FIRM LAY OUT AND DESIGN, WE ALWAYS INCLUDE A SHELTER UNLESS IT IS JUST FOR A COUPLE. IF YOU HAVE, LIKE, TWO DOZEN, OKAY, FINE. THE COST DON'T WORK OUT.

YOU GOT 100 OR MORE, YEAH, YOU NEED TO HAVE A SHELTER INTO IT.

AND PARTICULARLY IF IT WILL BE DOING DOUBLE DUTY BECAUSE BOAST OF THOSE LOCATION IT IS YOU LOOK LIEU THE SITE PLAN, YOU SEE THE GRAPHICS IN THERE. BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS SERVE AS SCHOOL BUS PICKUP POINT. ONE POINT I DID NOT MAKE EARLIER IN MY PRESENTATION THINK THAT PROBABLY NEED TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS NOT A GATED COMMUNITY. SO THERE ARE NO GATES.

SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT -- THIS IS FAMILY ORIENTED.

AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL BE COMING IN TO PICK UP STUDENT AND WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE RELATIVELY SAFE SHELTER LOCATIONS AND MR. SANDERS -- HE HELP PUSH THE PARTICULAR ONE ON THE NORTH END OF THE WORLD SO THEY HAVE THAT LAID OUT AND I SEE HE IS NOT HERE TODAY, SO MARTY, WE FOLLOWED IT.

WE LISTENED TO WHAT YOU SAID. SO DOES THAT COVER YOUR QUESTION THERE? PWURJZ YES, YES, THANK YOU.

I KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WEST OF TOWN WHEN YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH THAT ONE AND IT IS COVERED. WELL COVERED.

I DON'T KNOW WITH THE NEW SECTION.

>> TALKING OF CREEK SIDE? >> BOB BURDGE: THE EAST SIDE OF

IT. >> WE WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE IT ONE HAPPENED. THAT IS THE TYPICAL CONCEPT THAT

EVERYBODY WILL UNDERSTAND. >> BOB BURDGE: COME OVER TO BEN

CREEK, WE NEED A COVER. >> OKAY.

>> BOB BURDGE: THE HOA IS W WORKING ON THAT.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: QUE S QUESTIONS? OKAY. I GOT A FEW.

VERY PATIENT, GUYS. OKAY, SO I THINK THERE IS A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT THIS SITE IS CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS. CURRENTLY WITH SURFACE WATER DRAINAGE INTO GATOR TRACE, OVER THE GATOR TRACE BOUNDARY LINE, ETC. YOU ARE ADDING A LOT OF NONPERVIOUS MATERIAL WHICH I AM NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT IT IS GOING TO, IN MY OPINION, CREATE ADDITIONAL FLOW YOU HAVE A THE SITE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE SOUTH BETWEEN YOU AND GATOR TRACE.

YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT A BERM IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO FULL-TIME LIE BLOCK DRAINAGE INTO THE GATOR TRACE PROPERTY. BUT THAT THERE IS NOT AN AGREEMENT CURRENTLY BETWEEN YOU, YOUR DEVELOPERS AND THE COUNTY TO CREATE THAT BERM, IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> NO, THAT IS NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE.

THERE IS -- YES, THERE IS NOT A QUOTE, UNQUOTE, AGREEMENT IN PLACE, BUT THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING IN PLACE WE ARE GOING FLEW OUR SITE PERMITTING PROCESS AND AS PART OF THE SITE PERMITTING THIS BERM WILL BE REQUIRED.

A MATTER OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE FOOD CHAIN.

WE KNOW IT IS COMING AND DESIGNED IT.

LAID IT OUT. SHOWED IT TO THE COUNTY.

SHOWED IT TO THE CITY AND SEEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WILL SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT FOR DRAINAGE FLOW AND CARRYING IT OUT.

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THE INK HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED ON ALL THE PERMITS YET.

.> BOB > MICHAEL BRODERICK: DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS BERM?

>> I WOULD HAZARD TO SUGGEST SPECIFIC NUMBERS BUT I WILL TELL YOU IT IS THE DESIGN CONTROL ELEVATIONS FOR THAT AREA.

I CAN GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS BUT I CAN TELL THAT YOU IT WILL BE AT LEAST DESIGN ELEVATION WHICH IS PROBABLY IN THIS AREA.

DON'T HOLD ME TO THE PRECISE NUMBER.

I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE TEENS, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. I AM TRYING TO DO THIS YOU HAVE A IF MEMORY HERE I AM NOT THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

AND I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, BUT I KNOW IT HAS BEEN LAID OUT. IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED THAT IT WILL MEET ALL SOUTH FLORIDA CRITERIA FOR STORMWATER CONTROL.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: I UNDERSTAND YOUR RESPONSE.

MY CONCERN IS IMPLY THAT THE BERM, A, WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND B, WILL MAKE THAT SOME TYPE OF A SNRIRMENT A THEORETICAL APPROVAL AND THE BERM WILL HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AND EXECUTED WITH THE COUNTY TO DO SO. WITHOUT THAT TYPE OF PROTECTION ARE THERE ARE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK HERE.

>> CORRECT. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE TO THAT WE WILL WANT THOSE PARTICULARS.

AND THE PARTICULARS OF THIS BERM CONSTRUCTION I WILL WANT TO GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THEM TO APPROVE, VENNIS.

YOU WILL CONTROL THAT TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE SATISFACTION OF EVERYBODY. EVERY ENTITY THAT HAS CONTROL OVER THIS. THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. RELATIVE TO THIS BERM INSTALLATION. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY EASEMENT RUNS BETWEEN 120 FEET AND 60 FEET.

>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT, APPROXIMATELY.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: GATOR TRACE IS THE NARROW PORTION.

>> TECHNICALLY ALL GATOR TRACE. JUST A MATTER OF HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: BUT THE BERM CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO INCORPORATE THE ADJOINING PROPERTY LINE WITH GATOR TRACE, AS WELL AS THE LOTS TO THE WEST

OF THAT, CORRECT? >> ADJOIN THE PROPERTY LINE ALONG GATOR TRACE ALONG THE T EAST-WEST LENGTH IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. I WILL GO THE OTHER DIRECTION FOR A SECOND. IT WILL RUN FROM THE RIGHT ANGLE EXTENSION IF YOU IT WILL RUN. IF YOU CAN SEE -- THE ARROW COMING THROUGH. IT WILL RUN FROM APPROXIMATELY HERE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THROUGH HERE, THROUGH HERE, AND WILL BURN OUT SOME PLACE IN HERE. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: IN ESSENCE, THE ENTIRE RUN OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WITH THE COUNTY, AN INDICATION WHERE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY YOU ARE GOING TO PLACE THE BERM? IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE? OR ARE YOU LOOK TO PUSH THIS TOWARD GATOR TRACE?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LOCATION OF IT.

I DON'T THINK THAT HAS BEEN ADVANCED THAT FAR AS PART OF DESIGN PROCESS BECAUSE AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, WE ARE DOING -- AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS, WE ARE NOT SEEKING CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL AT THIS TIME.

WE ARE STILL DEVELOPING THEM. IT WILL BE SOME PLACE WITHIN THIS REGION THAT HYDRAULICALLY THAT WORKS MOST EFFECTIVELY AND DOES NOT APPROACH ON ANY OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.

MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE COUNTY IS IT WILL BE -- MAYBE ON OUR SITE OR MAYBE INTO THE COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY A LITTLE BIT.

SOMETHING IN HERE THAT WORK TO GET THE WATER OUT OF THERE.

BECAUSE -- AND ALSO ADDRESSES THE COUNTY ISSUES AND CONCERNS THERE TOO. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: I GUESS MY COMMENT IS RELATIVE TO THE BERM IS THAT MY PREFERENCE IS TO SEE IT ON YOUR PROPERTY AND CLEARS THE WHOLE SLATE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF RESIDENTS OF GATOR TRACE STARING AT A BERM.

OR RELOCATED TO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE DENSITY IN THE REST OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IF IT IS 120 FEET AND 60 OR 70 FEET. BUT WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT BECAUSE -- IF THIS PROCEEDS, I AM GOING TO LOOK TO INCORPORATE SOME TYPE OF A CONDITION THAT BE ADDRESSED.

WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT AFTER WE GET PUBLIC COMMENT.

MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, RELATIVE TO YOUR WATER SUPPLY, DO YOU HAVE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH GATOR TRACE CURRENTLY?

>> WE ARE WORKING ON THIS NOW. SOMETHING THAT POPPED UP IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. AND WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING

THAT TAKEN CARE OF. >> HAS THAT BEEN COMMUNICATED TO

GATOR TRACE? >> WE COMMUNICATED TO THE MASTER BOARD THAT WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A -- WE HAVE BEEN K

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TASKED BY KOLTER TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY EXHIBITS WHERE THIS WILL GO AND DOING THIS NOW. AND PRESENT THOSE I AM GOING TO START WITH THE MASTER BOARD. I MAY BE A SUB BOARD AND PRESENT THOSE TO THE GATOR TRACE AND TAKE THE STEPS FROM THERE.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: ANOTHER STIPULATION TO GAIN AN EASEMENT WITH GATOR TRACE FOR THEIR WATER SUPPLY.

>> YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: YOU INDICATED THAT THERE IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT OR ENTRANCE ON THE WHICH WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST SECTION OF THE PROPERTY.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE CONTROLLED SINCE IT IS NOT A

GATED COMMUNITY? >> SAME DEAL.

NOT A GATED COMMUNITY IN THE SENSE THAT IT HAS GUARD GATES OR ACCESS DATES COMING IN UPON THE PRIMARY ACCESS ROADS.

BOTH THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WILL HAVE A GATE UPON THEM. THERE WILL BE A GATE THERE.

BASICALLY ONLY GOING TO BE OPEN BY AN AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY OFFICIAL FLEW A BOX TYPE SET-UP OR A MASTER ASSOCIATION SHOULD SOMETHING OCCUR INSIDE THE COMMUNITY THAT WARRANT THAT.

YOU AND I WHO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, WOULD WE HAVE A CLICKER OR KEY TO THAT, NO. THE ONLY THING WHEN THE MASTER GROUP OR THE GUY WITH THE BIG RED TRUCKS WITH LOTS OF LIGHTS

ON THEM NEED TO COME IN. >> THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

>> MR. MURPHY, CURRENTLY NOT SLATED FOR A DEVELOPER AS A GATED COMMUNITY. IS IT DESIGNED IF THE HOA, WHEN THE RESIDENTS TAKE OVER, IF THEY DECIDE TO MAKE IT A GATED COMMUNITY, IS IT DESIGNED SO IT COULD BECOME A GATED COMMUNITY?

>> NO. IF YOU -- AND THIS DISCUSSION WAS HAD AS WELL TOO. THE -- IF YOU WERE TO COME IN AND MAKE THIS A GATED COMMUNITY AS I SAID EARLIER.

CAN I GET BACK TO MY PRESENTATION.

WHERE IS IT? CAN YOU GET ME THERE? I WILL GET YOU ONE OF THE TRAFFIC.

>> YOU AND I KNOW RESIDENTS 15 YEARS OR TEN YEARS FROM NOW FOOLISH FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AS THE HOA AND TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

>> TO DO THAT -- THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES -- WHY AM I NOT GOING UP ONE. TO DO THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING ON THE LEFT THERE.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THE MY LITTLE.

>> I CAN UNDERSTAND. >> YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE. CONVEYING TO THE COUNTY.

IF YOU LOOK THE CURVE LINE AND SEE THE LITTLE DASHED LINE TO THE RIGHT. THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY PART OF THEIR PUBLIC STREET. AFTER THAT GOES TO THE CDD.

THERE IS NO ROOM TO MEET ANY OF THE STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR GATE LOCATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- PUTTING A GATE THIS IS ONE THING, BUT THE GATE IS NOT WHERE THE ACTION IS.

ALL THE ACTION IS BEFORE THE GATE WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR CALL BOXES. WHERE YOU HAVE ROOM TO TURN AROUND. ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

>> YES, SIR. >> NO PHYSICAL ROOM IN THIS LOCATION TO DO THAT. AM I GOING TO SAY THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR TO BE GO TO THE CITY AND ASK FOR IT? NO. BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO DO THAT.

THEY WILL HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY AND ASK THOMAS PERONA MISSION TO DO THAT AND THEY WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE CDD AND ASK.

AND THE NET EFFECT WILL THE DEDELETERIOUS.

AND THIS IS NOT DESIGNED WITH GATES IN MINDS.

>> THE BUYER KNOWS THAT AND WILL BE BROUGHT UP BY THE SALE E

SALESPEOPLE. >> WE WILL RIGHT THE SCRIPT FOR

THEM TOMORROW. >> MARCIA BAKER: I HAVE ONE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURE OR PRESENTATION WHAT THE RECREATIONAL AREA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE?

>> I DON'T -- CAN YOU TAKE ME TO THE ARTIST RENDERING.

RIGHT THERE. CLICK ON THAT.

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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CLUB. HOUSE AND SWIMMING POOL.

>> AND THE TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURT.

TENNIS COURTS AND BASKETBALL COURTS.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THIS WILL COME IN, BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE. OUR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES CONTEMPLATE -- WELL, FIRST YOU HAVE A, LET ME TAKE A GIANT EDUCATIONAL STEP BACKWARDS HERE FOR A SECOND.

BACK IN THE BOOM-BOOM PERIODS OF THE EARLY 2000S AND SO FORTH, IT WAS A RACE TO SEE WHO CAN DESIGN THE BIGGEST CLUBHOUSE.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DESIGNED PRETTY BIG CLUBHOUSES IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY SOLD THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THOSE COMMUNITIES DECIDED HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO KEEP THOSE CLUBHOUSES UP.

IN THIS BOOM-BOOM PERIOD. THE GENERAL TREND HAS BEEN MINIMALISTIC CLUB COMPLEXES. THIS POOL COMPLEX THAT YOU SEE HERE -- AGAIN THIS SCALE AS SUCH IS DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT IT IS A FAIRLY LARGE POOL AREA FAIRLY MINIMALIST CLUBHOUSE CHANGING AREA. IT IS NOT LIKE A -- IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT A CLUBHOUSE LIKE GATOR TRACE.

NUMBER ONE, THERE IS NO GOLF COURSE THERE.

BUT NOT A BIG COMMUNITY GATHERING CLUBHOUSE.

THE MARKETS AND SUCH -- HAVE BEEN SUCH THAT PEOPLE DON'T USE IT. THEY ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE POOL AND EXERCISE AMENITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

NO INTO THE SOCIAL GATHERING FUNCTIONS.

NOW IF THIS WERE. FRANKLY IF THIS WAS AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY, WOULD BE SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THIS IS DIFFERENT CLIENT AND DIFFERENT MARKET.

AND ONE WE ARE SHOOTING FOR IS ONE THAT SHORT OF AN OCCASIONAL BIRTHDAY PARTY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TUESDAY.

>> MARCIA BAKER: ALONG THAT RESTRICTIONS OF PEOPLE BUILDING

THEIR OWN SWIMMING POOLS? >> IF THERE IS ROOM IN THE BACK YARD -- IN THE TOWNHOMES BECAUSE IT IS NOT THAT WIDE.

TWO-FAMILY OPPORTUNITIES THEY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE AND THEY CAN MEET SETBACKS, THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS

AGAINST THAT. >> MARCIA BAKER: THANK YOU.

>> ONE QUALIFIER. IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE DONE DURING PERIODS OF INITIAL CONSTRUCTION JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

>> NOW WITH THE HOUSES -- WITH THEM BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRESERVE, IS THERE SOME KIND OF BUFFER FROM THE WETLAND?

>> YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT IN HERE AS WELL.

CAN YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN. NO, GO TO THE ONE ON MY DRAWINGS IF TOUGH HERE. DO I HAVE ONE? GO TO THE UTILITY PLAN I AM LOOKING AT THIS AS ILLUSTRATION ONLY. THE GENERAL GRAY AREA IS THE LIMIT OF THE WETLANDS. ALSO THAT INCLUDES THE REQUIRED UP LAND BUFFER AROUND THE W WETLAND AND OTHER SPACES THAT SHOW UP MORE IN THE ARTIST ILLUSTRATION SHOW ALL OF THE GREEN. FUNDAMENTALLY GREEN.

INSIDE THE GREEN THE REGULATORY LINES TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE BEING DELINEATED. YOU AND ME AS AN AVERAGE CI N CITIZEN, IT IS GREEN AREA. THAT IS ALL IT IS.

YOU DON'T CARE WHAT THE LINES ARE AND TO SATISFY THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS TO SHOW WHERE THE LINES ARE THERE.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: QUE S QUESTIONS?

>> BOB BURDGE: ANOTHER THING BECAUSE YOU MADE MENTION OF THE SCHOOL BUS PICKUP. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THE POPULATION IS GOING TO BE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU SAY 600 AND SOME UNIT. >> WE USE THE REGULAR MULTIPLIERS. I THINK IT WAS LIKE TWO AND A HALF -- 2.6 -- SOMETHING IN THAT PER UNIT AND MULTIPLY IT OUT.

SO THAT WILL BE, WHAT, 650 TIMES 2.6.

>> BOB BURDGE: 1300. >> THAT RANGE.

AGAIN SOME HOUSES -- SOME ARE GOING TO BE MORE.

SOME WILL BE LESS. >> BOB BURDGE: JUST SOME GUESTIZATION OF HOW MANY CHILDREN IT WILL BE.

>> WE GAVE IT ALL TO MARTY. AND AGAIN I AM NOT TICKING ON HIM, BUT HE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND HE WAS COMFORTABLE

WITH WHAT HE SAW. >> BOB BURDGE: OKAY, THAT IS FINE. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: QUESTIONS? COUPLE OF MORE.

BACK TO THE BERM ISSUE. I HAVE VERY SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THIS IN THAT, IT IS SUCH AN OPEN-ENDED ISSUE THAT I WILL LOOK TO PUT A STIPULATION IN. LET'S ASSUME YOU BUILD THE BERM

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IN THE COUNTY'S RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHO IS GOING TO MAINTAIN IT?

>> THAT GETS WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE COUNTY.

I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE THE ABILITY OF THE CDD.

THE DEVELOPER/-- THE CDD WILL ASSUME PERMIT OBLIGATIONS AND BUILT INTO A PERMIT. I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF NOT A PERMIT OBLIGATION AND PERMIT CRITERIA WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE BUFFER. MY EXPERIENCE WILL TELL ME MOST LIKELY THAT PERMIT WILL BE WRITTEN THIS A WAY THAT THE DEVELOPER BLAH-BLAH-BLAH TAKE CARE OF ALL THE STUFF AND THAT OVER TIME WILL TRANSFER THE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CDD AS THE WORKS ARE COMPLETED AND ASSIGNED TO THE -- TO THE DISTRICT.

THAT IS TYPICALLY HOW THAT KIND OF WORKS LIKE IN ANY OTHER KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC.

IF YOU NEED A SPECIFIC. WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITH THE CREATION OF THE BERM THAT IS NOT INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN CURRENTLY, THAT IS ALSO GOING TO THEN REQUIRE A LANDSCAPE COMPONENT TO CORRECT MANNERS TO LANDSCAPE SO WE DON'T HAVE A MOUND.

AND SOME TYPE OF ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THAT.

>> I WILL NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE IF IT IS GOING TO BE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, RIGHT, CAN THE COUNTY?

>> THE PROBABILITY IS HIGH IT WILL BE IN PART AT LEAST IN SOME PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, YES. SO WE WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE COUNTY. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: I AM

GOING TO WANT THAT -- >> VENNIS GILMORE: COULD YOU MAKE THAT A CONDITION. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: LANDSCAPE AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY AND ALSO THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THIS PERSONAL BECOMES CRITICAL. THAT THE CDD WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. I AM NOT LOOKING TO SHIFT THE BURDEN TO THE COUNTY. I BELIEVE IT IS THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT MOVING FORWARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MURPHY BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT. SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START US

YOU HAVE A? >> SURE.

>> AGAIN, DAVID EARL AND I REPRESENT THE GATOR TRACE PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION AS YOU ALL KNOW.

GATOR TRACE IS THE COMMUNITY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE APPLICANT PROPERTY. I AM TEMPTED TO SAY YOU TOUCHED ON MY ISSUE MR. BRODERICK AND STOLE ALL MY THUNDER, BUT MAYBE I CAN CUT THEM A BREAK. BUT I WILL ACCENTUATE A FEW THING. GENERALLY THE MASTER ASSOCIATION IS APPRECIATIVE OF THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT A QUALITY PROJECT THERE.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND MR. -- MR. MURPHY, THAT'S CORRECT? MR. MURPHY HAS ENTERTAINED CONVERSATIONS WITH MY DIRECTOR ALREADY AND I CAN SEE IT IS PART OF A PROJECT THIS SIGNIFICANT, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE GOING ON AND THEY NEED TO BE. WE HAVE KEY CONCERNS.

THE BIGGEST ONE IS BEING DRAINAGE.

AS ONE RESIDENTS OF ALREADY D SAID, WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF WATER LOADING FROM THAT PROPERTY ON TO OUR PROPERTY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

WE WERE TOLD AT LEAST INITIALLY THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BERM, OKAY. A BERM STOP WATERS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT. A QUESTION WHERE THE BERM WILL BE. WE DON'T WANT IT ON OUR PR Y PROPERTY. WE ARE LITTLE CURIOUS OF IT BEING ON THE COUNTY PROPERTY BECAUSE RAISES DIFFERENT ISSUES, SIMPLER IF IT WAS ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.

BECAUSE THEN THE ISSUE OF PERMANENCY, MAINTENANCE AND THOSE THINGS WILL BE MUCH CLEARER.

BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT A BERM ON THE COUNTY PROPERTY, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE ASSOCIATION, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO SO. WHAT IS YOUR LEGAL AUTHORITY FOR IT. GROWING GET AN EASEMENT? THAT WILL MAKE SENSE, I GUESS, CERTAINLY BETTER THAN A LICENSE OR SOME OTHER TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENTS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE WAY OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PERPETUITY TO WHAT IS BEING DONE HERE. AND THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAIL ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. I AM SURE MY CLIENT WILL REVIEW WHAT THE INSTRUMENT WILL BE TO HAVE IT NEGOTIATED BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE VERY COMPLICATED. WHAT WILL IT BE.

WHAT KIND OF INTEREST. WHAT WILL BE ALLOWED BY THE COUNTY IN TERM OF THE MAINTENANCE NORTH COMING ON THERE TO MAINTAIN IT PROPERLY BOTH FROM THE STANDPOINT OF FUNK AND LANDSCAPE. SO YOU HAVE TO SEE THAT AS PART OF YOUR PLANNING PROCESS. THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE OR

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CONDITION PUT INTO ANY APPROVAL GIVEN BE DONE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE P & Z BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION.

JUST PUTTING UP A BERM -- THERE IS AN ENGINEERING ASPECT TO IT TOO. BECAUSE IF YOU WERE GOING TO PUT IN ALL THE NONPERMEABLE DEVELOPMENT, THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THERE, IT IS GOING TO LOAD THOSE WETLANDS UP WITH MORE WATER. DO YOU WANT PUDDLES ERUPTING AT THE BERM AND JUST SITTING THERE? NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE IT WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR THE PERSONAL. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM THAT IS DESIGNED IS GOING TO MOVE THAT WATER OUT TO PLAT'S CREEK. I UNDERSTAND FROM MY CLIENT THAT PLATT'S CREEK WILL BE IN NEED OF ANOTHER WORK BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER BEEN USED THAT WAY. THAT IS NOT ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY EITHER. WHAT IS THE RIGHT TO USE THAT? ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS THE REQUIREMENT PROCESS REVIEWED BY YOU FOLK TO MAKE SURE IT IS GOING TO FUNCTION IN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD.

BECAUSE IT IS THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTROL ITS OWN WATER SO LEGAL PERMISSION, MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY.

IT IS NOT USUAL. AND WE RECOGNIZE THIS IN ANY SENSE IF YOU CREATE THAT KIND OF A MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY, IT CAN BE AN ONGOING PERPETUAL RESPONSIBILITY OF AN ORGANIZATION AND WE ARE TALKING OF A CDD.

DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. LET'S SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS AND ARRANGEMENTS IN PLACE OR MAKE A CONDITION THAT THEY BE IN PLACE IN A SATISFACTORY WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: MY CONCERN MIRRORS WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THIS. AND TO CREATE THIS BERM AND SHIFT IT TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR THE GATOR TRACE PROPERTY LINE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. SIMPLY PUT, THE AESTHETICS OF THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SHIELD. SO IF IT IS GOING TO BE CREATED, I AM GOING TO GET LANGUAGE INTO ANY TYPE OF A MOTION IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION IT GOES, IF IT IS IN THE EASEMENT,LE BE UP AGAINST THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE OF THE EASEMENT ITSELF OR ON THE APPLICANT'S SITE. AND IF NOT, IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK HERE. I WOULD BE FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE. VENNIS, ARE YOU THINKING OF THE

SAME VAIN. >> ADDED AS A CONDITION.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: WILL HAVE TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DIALOGUE BETWEEN GATOR TRACE AND THE DEVELOPERS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

OBVIOUSLY EASEMENT ISSUE FOR WATER ACCESS, BERM ISSUE, ETC., ETC. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY SINGING KUMBAYAH HERE SAYING THAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO WORK. IT APPEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN

DONE PRELIMINARILY. >> WE ARE PREPARED, MR. BRODERICK. WE ARE PREPARED.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR YOU HAVE A MY WATER THEME.

EASEMENT IN THE WATER ACCESS IS A NEW THING AND REREPRESENT AN ASSOCIATION, POWER BASED ON DOCUMENTS OF RECORD WE NEED LOOK AT OUR AUTHORITY AND REQUIREMENTS.

LAND TAKE US A LITTLE TIME DO THAT.

>> SOMEWHAT PROBLEM MAT LIKE TO GIVE AN EASEMENT BASED -- THAT

IS YOUR DECISION. >> I AM CERTAINLY NOT ABLE TO STAND ON THIS TODAY BECAUSE I JUST HEARD OF IT TODAY, BUT WE CAN INVESTIGATE WHAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO.

OBVIOUSLY THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND THE OTHER ASSOCIATIONS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH EASEMENTS BUT WE HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO IT UNDER OUR DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE. WE ARE PREPARED TO TALK TO THEM AND WORK ON THAT. BUT AT LEAST IN OUR PRELIMINARY PHRASE WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING RIGHT ON OUR LINE.

AND WE WANT IT TO BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND WE WANT IT IN PLACE REALLY IN PERPETUITY.

IN ORDER TO GET ZONING APPROVAL, YOU NEED TO HAVE THOSE THINGS IN PLACE. AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE, MR. BRODERICK. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: THANK U

YOU. >> MARCIA BAKER: I HAVE A QUESTION OF EVERYBODY UP HERE. EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT WATER.

WHAT ABOUT SEWER? AND IF YOU HAVE SEWER CON N CONNECTIONS, WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE STORM DRAINS?

>> WE DO HAVE STORM DRAINS. WE DO HAVE SEWER CONNECTIONS.

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AND -- WHEN YOU SAY WATER, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF WATER IN THAT QUESTION. YOU HAVE DRAINAGE AND STO R STORMWATER, NONPOTABLE AND POTABLE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU DRINK. LET ME TRY TO -- IF I CAN MAYBE ANSWER THEM AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.

FIRST YOU HAVE A, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE -- POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD THAT OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS SORE THAT WE HAVE BEEN PRACTICING THIS FOR THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE MET AT LEAST A HALF DOZEN TIME WITH THE GATOR TRACE FOLKS AND WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. WE HAVE MADE EVERY EFFORT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAINTAIN OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION. NOW WE WORKED THROUGH THE MASTER ASSOCIATION KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THERE ARE GIVEN TV COME TO AND THAT SORT OF THING AND -- FIEFDOMS TO THAT.

AND WE ARE AN OPEN BOOK. WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK EVERYTHING THROUGH.

I WANTED TO STATE THAT. AND AS FAR AS -- SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO THROW IN THERE? PWURJZ NO, YOU ARE GOOD.

>> AS FAR AS THE SEWER QUESTION, WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TWO LIFT STATIONS. ONE SERVICING THE AREA ON THE EAST -- THE WETLAND -- YOU LOOK AT THE SITE YOU SEE IT IS VERY CLEAR. THE WETLAND DIVIDES IT INTO TWO KINGDOMS, EAST AND WEST APPEAR LIFT STATION IN THE EAST KINGDOM AND IN THE WEST KINGDOM. THEY COLLECT THE SEWAGE THROUGH A FORCE MAIN THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF U.S. 1 AND DICKSON AND GOES YOU HAVE A -- WE KNOW WHERE IT GOES YOU HAVE A TO. AND AS FAR AS STORM SEWER.

WE HAVE STORM SEWER. WE HAVE A CLOSED SYSTEM IN THE STREET. CURB AND GUTTER.

NOT THE LITTLE VERTICAL, VALLEY GUTTER SYSTEM.

BUT WE DO A SURFACE DRAIN. WHEN THE RAIN FALLS, IT WILL FLOW INTO THE GUTTER. IT CARRY IT INTO THE LAKES AND DOES ITS PRETREATMENT STORAGE THERE BEFORE IT IS DISCHARGED OUT THROUGH THE WETLANDS WHICH IS IS A CONVEYANCE SYSTEM TAKING IT OUT TO THE POINT OF OUTFALL. IT WILL WORK ITS WAY DOWN AND AROUND THE WHOLE FROM THERE. POTABLE WATER.

YEAH, OKAY. THE ISSUE ABOUT THE WATER LINE CONNECTION IS NEW TO US TOO AND BROUGHT IT UP IN THE LAST DISCUSSION. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER WHEN THE GUYS -- WHEN THE GUYS WITH THE WATER SYSTEM SAY YOU HAVE TO GO THAT PATH.

YOU CAN'T GO THAT PATH. THEN WE WILL HAVE TO GET IT TOGETHER AND WORK IT OUT AND GO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO.

NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FINAL SAY BECAUSE WE NEED WATER TO THE SITE AND FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE W R WATER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> BOB BURDGE: SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUT I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOUR QUESTION, MISS BAKER.

>> MARCIA BAKER: JUST CURIOUS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE STORMWATER DRAINS GO TO. IT DOESN'T GO TO THE SAME PLACE THAT THE SEWAGE DOES BUT MUST BE SOME WAY OF PUMPING EXCESS WATER

THROUGH THE EXISTING FPU -- >> NO BAKER FWLAIBINGZ ISN'T

ANY. >> NO, IT DRAINS INTO THE WETLANDS. THEY ARE COLLECTING IT ON THEIR STREETS AND DRAINS INTO THE WETLANDS AND EXITS OUT.

>> MARCIA BAKER: THE STORMWATER THAT IS COLLECTED ON MY STREET GOES OUT INTO SOME WETLANDS ANYWHERE.

>> OUT IN THE INTERCOASTAL. >> IF YOU WERE IN THE ELDER PARTS OF THE CITY, THE CHANCES ARE ALL IT IS -- IT IS COLLECTING -- WHATEVER STREET IT IS COMING DOWN AND GOING TO AND JUST A DIRECT PIPE STRAIGHT INTO THE LAGOON.

NO PRETREATMENT. NO WATER QUALITY ENHANCEMENT.

NO NOTHING. IT IS ON ITS WAY OUT.

>> MARCIA BAKER: ISN'T THERE AN EQUIVALENT DRAINAGE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR PROPERTY? I MEAN WHERE DOES YOUR STORMWATER GO FROM YOUR DEVELOPMENT?

>> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT GOES SIMILAR TO WHERE THIS DRAINAGE GOES. THERE IS A CHANNEL OUT OF HERE

INTO THE WEST. >> SAME BASIC PRINCIPLES.

WE WILL LOOK -- WE GO TO THE PERMITTING AUTHORITIES TO SOUTH FLORIDA MANAGEMENT AND WHATEVER EXTENT THEY ARE INVOLVED INTO IT. AND THEY WILL GIVE US THE REQUIREMENT AND CRY TER YE FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL SAY YOUR -- AND WHAT MATHEMATICAL MODEL AND HIGHER MATH THAN I

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WANT TO DEAL WITH AND ENGINEERS DEAL WITH THAT.

THEY WILL TELL US YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN X AMOUNT OF ACRE ON YOUR SITE. AND YOU MAY DISCHARGE X AMOUNT OF CUBIC FEET PER SECOND. HOWEVER THAT MATH TURNS OUT AND WEIRD STRUCTURE AND CONTROL STRUCTURE, WE WILL CONTROL THE WATER AND CONTINUE THE WATER ON OUR PROPERTY AND REGULATE THE FLOW OF DISCHARGE COMING YOU HAVE A OUR PROPERTY.

THAT MODELING DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE RECEDING BODIES, THE PLAT'S BRANCH WATERSHED. IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MAINTENANCE CONDITION OF THOSE WATERWAYS AND THERE YOU ARE TRIPPING INTO A MUCH BROADER ISSUE THAT GETS INTO ALL OF THE CITY DRAINAGE AND EVERYBODY WHO DEALT ANYTHING AROUND IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME UNDERSTANDS THAT WHITE CITY DRAINAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN A MYSTERY TO MANY BECAUSE NOT THAT MANY PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES DOWN THERE.

PREDESCRIPTIVE AREAS IF THAT IS THE RIGHT PHRASE TO BE USING BUT NO DEDICATED CANALS AND THE WATER KIND OF FLOW AND THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE COORDINATING AND BE ASSURED THAT WE ARE. THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE COORDINATING AND MODELING AND BEST THAT WE CAN GET WITH THE COUNTY, THE CITY, THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT SO WHOEVER WITH OUR SITE IS NO MORE THAN THE PRECONDITION AND NOT CAUSING ANY PROBLEMS DOWNSTREAM. OUR OBLIGATION TO PROVE THAT.

WET NOT GET A SOUTH FLORIDA PERMIT WITHOUT APPROVING THAT.

>> MARCIA BAKER: YOU CAN PUT A DRAINAGE PIPE FOR OUTFLOW NEXT

TO THE BERM. >> OUR POINT OF OUTFLOW IS IN THE SAME GENERAL SOUTHWEST CORNER.

THAT IS WHERE IT IS ALL GOING TO, YES.

>> MARCIA BAKER: PIPE AND A SYSTEM THERE TO CORRECT IF THE BERM OVERFLOWED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> THE PURPOSE OF THE BERM IS TO KEEP IT FROM OVERFLOWING, TO CAPTURE THE WATER AND -- BECAUSE -- IT IS ALREADY WORKING THAT

WAY. >> MARCIA BAKER: IF IT DID OVERFLOW AND A DRAINAGE PIPE ON THE OTHER SIDE IT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS, WOULDN'T IT?

>> IN THEORY FOR WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THAT I GOT ON THE SCREEN, YOU SEE WHERE THE ARROW IS IN THE BOTTOM L LEFT-HAND CORNER.

YOU SEE WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC. THE BLACK ARROW, THE LOCATION OF THE OUTFLOW POINT. AND THE PERSONAL -- AGAIN, WHETHER IT BE SOUTH RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE OR NORTH RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THAT WILL BE STEERING THE WATER TO THAT PARTICULAR POINT. AND THEN A CONTROL STRUCTURE AND BASICALLY IN IT MOST SIMPLISTIC TERMS A WALL -- A CONCRETE WALL WITH A LITTLE NOTCH DUG INTO IT AT A CERTAIN ELEVATION THAT HOLDS WATER BACK AND THEN LET WATER OUT.

>> BOB BURDGE: A SPILLWAY. >> PRETTY INCH ITS MOST

SIMPLISTIC DESCRIPTION. >> I SUSPECT WE WILL BE REVIEWING A LOT OF ENGINEERING PLANS.

HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE MY REMARKS.

THE BERM IS A ESSENTIAL PART OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN AND LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN AND I DON'T THINK IT IS DEPICTED.

>> IT'S NOT. >> I AM THINKING TO MYSELF THAT OUGHT TO BE PART OF ANY SITE PLAN THAT IS APPROVED.

>> I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THIS COMMENTARY.

THIS IS A VERY OPEN-ENDED ISSUE. WE ARE NOT DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS WE NEED MORE DETAIL BEFORE I WOULD BE WILLING TO APPROVE IT. BUT LET'S GET INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY HE WILL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS E

TIME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ED BATES, RESIDENT OWNER AT GATOR TRACE.

THE ONE THING I HAVEN'T HEARD IS FEMA DID A STUDY ON THIS THAT DESIGNATED A FLOOD ZONE AND APPROXIMATELY ONE-THIRD OF YOUR LAND IS IN WETLANDS. ARE RESIDENTS OF THAT PROPERTY GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BUY INSURANCE, FLOOD INSURANCE?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN. THREE QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD.

ARE WE IN A FLOOD ZONE, HAS FEMA DONE A STUDY AND WILL THEY BE REQUIRED TO BUY INSURANCE. DOES THAT PRETTY MUCH COVER IT?

>> A SMALL PART OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF OUR SITE IS IN FLOOD ZONE AH -- WHATEVER THE ELEVATION NUMBER IS -- DON'T REMEMBER AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND THAT IS DELINEATED IN THE GRAPHIC IN FRONT OF YOU. A SMALL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY

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IS THE CURRENTLY MAPPED FEMA FLOOD ZONES.

WILL PEOPLE BE REQUIRED TO BUY INSURANCE IN THAT AREA? I WILL GIVE YOU MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE SYSTEM WORK.

IF YOU ARE IN A FLOOD ZONE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO BUY INSURANCE.

IF YOU WERE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BUY INSURANCE. DO THE WETLANDS HAVE ANY IMPACT UPON THAT? NO, NOT DIRECTLY.

MY EXPERIENCE IN SEEING HOW THE FEMA MAPS -- AND, AGAIN, I BASE THAT ON DAMN NEAR 40 YEAR LOCALLY, 20 PLUS ON THE PUBLIC SIDE. 20 PLUS ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

YOU KNOW, THE FEMA MAPS. YOU CAN HAVE WETLANDS NOT IN THE FLOOD ZONE. THAT DOES OCCUR.

WHEN THEY GO AND DO THEIR MODELING, THEY LOOK AT ELEVATIONS AND DO WHATEVER HOE HOCUS-POCUS WHATEVER THEY WILL DO AND WAYS TO FLAB A FLOOD ZONE MINIMIZE YOU GETTING FLOOD INSURANCE. THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, A SMALL PART IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THAT HAS BEEN ACCOUNTED NORTH DESIGN OF THE PROJECT. TWO, FEMA HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING SPECIFIC. AND ARE YOU GOING TO NEED IT IF YOU ARE IN THE WESTERN SIDE? PROBABLY NOT.

ON THE EASTERN SIDE? IF YOU ARE IN A CERTAIN AREA, YES, BUT, AGAIN, THEN IT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE RISK. THAT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE.

>> I DON'T TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT, BUT -- MORTGAGEE DICTATES -- NOT OUR CHOICE. IT IS THE BANK'S CHOICE.

>> IF YOU WERE IN A ZONE, I UNDER STAND THAT ENTIRELY.

IF YOU ARE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, THEN IT IS A CHOICE.

>> THE OTHER THING IS, SEVERAL YEARSBAG BACK IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FEMA CAME IN AND DID A STUDY BECAUSE BANKS WERE TRYING TO DESIGNATE TRACES OF FLOOD POTENTIAL -- FLOOD E ZONE. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT GATOR TRACE WAS NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE. THIS BERM AND EXCESS WATER THAT YOU HAVE TO CREATE RECONFIGURING THE LAND AND HAVING ALL THE WETLAND HERE. IS IT GOING TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS OF GATOR TRACE ARE GOING TO BE NOW FORCED TO BUY VERY EXPENSIVE FLOOD INSURANCE, AND IF SO, WHO

IS GOING TO -- >> MY EXPERIENCE IS, NO.

THE ANSWER IS NO. THE IMPACTS THAT WE ARE DOING HERE -- THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO CAUSE A CHANGE IN THE FEMA FLOOD MAPS. IF THE FEMA FLOOD MAP CHANGES BECAUSE SOMEONE IN WASHINGTON HAVE DEEMED IT APPROPRIATE TO GO BACK AND RE-EXAMINE THE WHOLE ZONE AND WHOLE AREA FOR WHATEVER

REASON THEY CHOOSE TO. >> WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, YOUR UNDERSTANDING, WHY WOULD YOU PUT A BERM IN.

>> YOU STILL HAVE TO DIRECT WATER.

YOU ARE DIRECTING FLOW. >> EXACTLY.

THAT IS WHY I AM TALKING GATOR TRACE COULD BE DESIGNATED AS A.

>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT BUT I AM AN INSURANCE AGENT AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FEMA REGULATIONS THAT CHANGED RECENTLY. ONCE A FLOOD ZONE IS DESIGNATED BY AT GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, NOT BY ANY AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IS ON IT OR MIGHT NOT BE ON IT.

WHETHER A PERSON HAS FLOOD INSURANCE OR NOT FLOOD INS E INSURANCE, IT'S THEIR CHOICE. IF THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE, THE COST OF THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE IS NO LONGER BASED ON THE FLOOD ZONE. IT USED TO BE.

JUST BASED ON THE FLOOD ZONE. IT IS NOW BASED ON THE ACTUAL

CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY. >> WHICH ARE BEING CHANGED BY

THIS DEVELOPER? >> I WOULD SUGGEST HERE, GUY, THIS DOESN'T FALL INTO OUR PURVIEW FROM A PLANNING CA Y CAPACITY. THIS IS A DIFFERENT LINE OF QUESTIONING FOR DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

THAT WOULDN'T FALL UNDER THE PLANNING BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY.

I BELIEVE MISS BAKER'S INFORMATION IS CORRECT AND YOUR QUESTION IS VALID, BUT IN THIS INCIDENT, IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER

OUR JURISDICTION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S IT? SEEING NO ONE ELSE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. MURPHY, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD

AT THIS JUNCTURE? >> NO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OTHER THAN A GENERAL COMMENT. I KNOW THERE IS SOME CONCERN OF THE BERM AND DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME IS IN ESSENCE A TWO-DIMENSIONAL DRAWING AND A TWO-DIMENSIONAL REVIEW PROCESS.

WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE OVERALL CONSENSUAL.

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WE ARE NOT SEEKING CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IF YOU ARE DEFER THIS TO CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW TO COME BACK TO IT, I WOULD PREFER IF WE SIMPLY HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WELSH PROVIDE TO THE SAT ORPHANING OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN WITH GENERAL CRITERIA INTO IT. WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THINGS ADVANCING FORWARD AS SIMPLY AS WE CAN.

BUT, YOU NO, WE ARE STILL -- WE ARE STILL WORKING OUT ALL THE DETAILS OF THE BERM. AND I WOULD PREFER CONDITION AS OPPOSED TO DELAY. FOR GIVE ME FOR ASKING THAT BUT -- > MICHAEL BRODERICK: I UNDERSTAND. I GET THE GIST -- SIR, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? I ALREADY CLOSED.PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

>> I LIVE IN GATOR TRACE. THE DRAWINGS OFF THIS HERE ARE PART OF A PUBLIC MEETING, THAT'S CORRECT?

>> YES. >> ARE THEY AVAILABLE ONLINE SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT THEM AT THEIR HOME?

>> YES. >> OKAY, GOOD, THANK YOU.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> SIR, PLEASE SIGN IN.

I DIDN'T GET YOUR LAST NAME. CAN YOU PLEASE SIGN IN.

I DIDN'T GET YOUR LAST NAME. >> NORTHERN.

NELSON NORTHERN. >>.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?

WHERE IS EVERYBODY AT ON THIS. >> I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO MAKE THIS MOVE ALONG BECAUSE THE PROCESS GETS EXTENSIVE IF THIS COMES BACK AGAIN. USE CONDITIONS WITH THE BERM, AND THAT WILL BE GREAT WITH THE CONDITION THAT IT BE PROVIDED AND THE STIPULATION THAT IT IS SOMETHING -- FOR THE CONSISTENCY FOR THIS THAT YOU ALL MAINTAIN IT WITH YOUR PROPERTY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON YOUR PROPERTY BUT HAS TO BE

MAINTAINED. >> VENNIS, ARE WE GOING TO GET A SITE PLAN -- > MICHAEL BRODERICK: THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND FOR THE PLANNING JUAN BOARD.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: FINAL STOP. THIS IS REASON FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. NORMALLY YOU DON'T SEE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AT A STAGE. BUT YOU CAN PUT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO MAKE SURE PRIOR TO APPROVAL THAT BUILDING PERMIT STAGE THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE GIST OF IT.

TRY TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

>> NICHELLE CLEMONS: I MAKE MOTION THAT WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT THE BERMING BE PART OF THE PERMITTING AND MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ON THE PROPERTY, BUT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED FROM THEM.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: IT CAN BE IN THE EASEMENT, THE COUNTY EASEMENT. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ADD IN THAT IT HAS TO BE CITED TO THE NORTHERN PORTION -- I AM TRYING TO KEEP THIS YOU HAVE A OF GATOR TRACE'S PROPERTY LINE.

>> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: ALICIA.

YOU KIND OF GOT THAT? AND IF THERE IS ANY CHANGE OF THAT -- ANY CHANGE OF THAT ON THEIR PROPERTY OR ON THE NORTHERN POURING OF THE EA T EASEMENT, I WOULD WANT IT TO COME BACK HERE TO TAKE A LOOK WHAT IS GOING ON.

IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU. >> NICHELLE CLEMONS: IT IS

ACCEPTABLE. >> MARCIA BAKER: SECOND.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: YOU GOT THAT.

DALL THE ROLL. >> HAROLD ALBURY: YES.

>> BOB BURDGE: YES. >> HAROLD ALBURY: YES.

>> MARCIA BAKER: YES. >> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: CHAIRMAN CREYAUFMILLER I AM GETTING FRANK SYNDROME. SO THAT GET US THROUGH ZONING

[b. Preliminary Plat - The Preserve at Savannah Lakes - The East side of S. US Highway 1 at the intersection of Dickson Drive and lying North of the existing Gator Trace Planned Development]

ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT. PRELIMINARY PLAT.

I THINK WE -- I THINK WE KIND OF BEATEN THIS THING UP.

VENNIS, WANT TO WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THIS.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: BEFORE YOU IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THE APPLICANT IS SUBDIVIDED INTO 650 PLATTED LOTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION TITLED THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AND MEETS CHAPTER 121 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE -- RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD FORWARDS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL STOUB ONE CONDITION PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL OF THE FINAL PLAT. THE APPLICANT WILL ADDRESS ALL CITY OF FORT PIERCE ENGINEERING COMMENT ON THE PLAT.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I HAVE ONE. WOULD IT MAKE ESSENTIAL TO ADD THE LANGUAGE WE JUST INCORPORATE FLOOD THE LAST APPROVAL INTO

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THIS AS WELL? >> VENNIS GILMORE: FOR THE PLAT

-- >> MR. CHAIRMAN, BENEFIT OF PRIOR EXPERIENCES. NORMALLY THE PLAT IS NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF PAPER WITH A BUNCH OF LINES ON TO IT.

YOU CAN MAKE REFERENCE TO THE FACT -- IT WILL BE REQUIRED.

YOU ALREADY HAVE GOT IT IN HERE. BUT OFF THIS SATISFACTORY APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS BEFORE FINAL PLAT.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT SO YOUR COMMENT ARE ON THE RECORD. SIR, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE

HEARING FROM YOU ON THAT. >> THE PLAT IS A KEY DOCUMENT AND AT THE VERY LEAST, WE WANT SOME MENTION IN THE PLAT, SOME NOTE IN THE PLAT OR SOME EXCEPTION PLAT EVEN IF IT IS OFF-SITE. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: I WANT TO SEE THE SAME LANGUAGE AND WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO GET THE PLAT BUT WILL AFFECT THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THE GROUND. ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT AT THIS E TIME? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.

>> MARCIA BAKER: I MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE SAME

CONDITIONS AS IN A. >> SECOND.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALICIA. CALL THE ROLL.

>> MARCIA BAKER: YES. >> HAROLD ALBURY: YES.

>> BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM. >> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES.

>> ALEXANDER EDWARDS: YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I KNOW I HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF IT TODAY AND I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. >> MR. BRODERICK, THANK YOU.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: YOU ARE WELCOME.

FRANK, ARE YOU GOING TO REJOIN? >> MAKE HIM.

>> ARE YOU BRINGING COFFEE? >> AND DOUGHNUTS?

>> I JUST WANT COFFEE. >> SOME CROISSANTS OR SOMETHING,

A SNACK? >> MR. EARL.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: OKAY, FRANK.

I WILL RETURN YOUR HARDWARE TO YOU.

YOU NEED TO OFFICIALLY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TURN CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE MEETING BACK TO CHAIRMAN CREYAUFMILLER.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MR. BURDGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

EXCELLENT JOB. I AM GLAD THAT YOU WERE SEATED

AS CHAIR DURING THIS EVENT. >> I AM NOT SURE HOW TO TAKE THAT COMMENT, BUT I DID TAKE UP TWO HOURS OF PLANNING BOARD TIME

WITH THAT. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT. I HAVE GOT TO CATCH UP HERE ON MY CHECKMARKS. OTHERWISE I AM GOING TO BE LOST.

[c. Conditional Use - Surrounded by Love Eternally Preschool - 2806 S. US Highway 1]

AND MISS ALICIA. >> DOWN TO 7 C.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: 7 C, TAKE ME STRAIGHT.

NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS CONTINUAL USE, SURROUNDED BY LOVE ETERNALLY PRESCHOOL. AND I WAS OVER AND LOOKED AT THAT SITE AT 2806 U.S. HIGHWAY 1 1.

AND MR. GILMORE IS STILL THE PRESENTER.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS AND PLANNING CHAIR. CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 2806 U.S. SOUTH HIGHWAY 1, UNITS D-1 AND D-7 FOR SURROUNDED BY LOVE ETERNALLY PRESCHOOL/DAY CARE.

AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF GC, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AND A ZONING OF C 3, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 9100 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY IN THE SHOPS OF FORT PIERCE.

HOURS OF OPERATION 6:30 TO 7:30 P.M. 10 TO 12 STAFF MEMBERS WITHIN THE CAPACITY INCREASE. TENTATIVE CAPACITY IS APPROXIMATELY 41 CHILDREN ON AVERAGE.

MAXIMUM CAPACITY ALLOWING PER THE STATE WILL BE 74 CHILDREN.

POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

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NO CHANGES. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROVISION OF DAY CARE PRESCHOOLS OF LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH APPROPRIATE RESTRICTIONS AND, THEREFORE, WE RECOMMEND AP L

APPROVAL. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUESTIONS BY BOARD FOR MR. GILMORE.

>> JUST ONE, MR. CHAIR, WHAT TRIGGERING THE CONDITIONAL USE.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: ALL SCHOOLS ARE CONDITIONAL USE.

AND THE LOCATION WAS PREVIOUSLY A SCHOOL YEARS IN THE PAST.

MR. GILMORE, THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO SYNERGY?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: YES. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ACROSS THE STREET IS AN OFFICE THAT DEALS WITH PROBATION?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: YES. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I THINK AT ONE TIME WE HEARD SYNERGY, THAT TYPICALLY THE CLIENTS OF THAT COUNTY OFFICE DON'T NECESSARILY VISIT THE COUNTY

OFFICE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THAT'S CORRECT?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: JUST WHERE SOME OF THE PROBATION OFFICERS HAVE OFFICES AND THEY DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT PROBATION OFFICERS DO TODAY.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT CREYAUFMILLER DMRIMZ CONCERN LEVEL AS THE CITY IN THE PROXIMITY OF THAT DAY SCHOOL TO

THIS PARTICULAR OFFICE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT.

WORKING WITH THEM SYNERGY PROVIDES THEM WITH FOOD.

CATERS THE FOOD FOR THE PROPOSED PRESCHOOL.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: GLAD YOU COVERED THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MY NEXT QUESTION IS IF THEY ARE PROVIDING MEALS AND I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD COME FROM THE CULINARY -- PROBABLY PART OF THE CULINARY SCHOOL, I WOULD GUESS, WHICH IS A GOOD WAY TO DO

THAT. >> VENNIS GILMORE: YES.

>> UNIQUE. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO IDENTIFY HERE IS I BELIEVE.

THE PRESSURES WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE LACK OF HANDS, EYES AND EARS.

I BELIEVE IN PAGE TWO, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS INCORRECT.

ON THE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: YES, MY

APOLOGIES. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: COMING AT FROM YOU THE WORD PROCESSING SYSTEM.

IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT AND I HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT AND THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP TO YOU.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE THAT BEFORE WE PROGRESS TO THE COMMISSIONERS. GOOD TESTING GROUND AND I TAKE MY HAT YOU HAVE A FOR YOU AND THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT UNDER THE STRAINED CONDITIONS THAT YOU ARE WORKING UNDER.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE HERE. NOTHING ELSE.

I WILL OPEN THE PLANNING PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> I AM DEWEY BLACKMAN, I AM THE NEXT.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NOBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK.

>> CLEARED THEM OUT. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WE CLEARED THEM OUT. YOU DID A GOOD JOB AND RAN THEM ALL OUT. AND SINCE THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS, I WILL COME BACK AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MOTION AND SECOND BY MR. ALBURY CHIMED IN FIRST. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BRODERICK AND A SECOND BY MISS CLEMONS.

>> HAROLD ALBURY: YES. >> BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM.

>> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES.

>> ALEXANDER EDWARDS: YES. >> MARCIA BAKER: YES.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES, MA'AM.

THAT MOTION WAS FOR APPROVAL. NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS.

[d. Conditional Use with New Construction - Blackman Residence - 1627 Thumb Point Drive]

YOU MUST -- WHAT DID YOU DO. YOU CHANGE THE LINE-UP WHERE YOU ARE JUST STAYING HERE AND DOING THEM ALL? BECAUSE I THOUGHT I SAW THAT MISS LORICA WAS GOING TO DO THIS ONE AND MR. -- HOW DOES -- ALTHEISER WAS GOING TO DO THE

LAST ONE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: LAST MINUTE

CHANGE. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER:

[02:05:01]

CONDITIONAL USE FOR BLACKMAN RESIDENCE AT 1627 THUMB POINT

DRIVE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: GOOD AFTERNOON. BEFORE IS YOU A CONDITIONAL USE TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 33 FEET IN HEIGHT. AND 11.5 INCHES IN HEIGHT FROM THE FEMA BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AS YOU CAN SEE BEFORE YOU ALONG THUMB POINT DRIVE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE-FAMILY DENSITY R-1 AND HAS A USE OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THESE ARE THE FRONT AND REAR HE WILL VAGUES OF THE PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

THE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE MAINLY CONSISTENT OF STORAGE.

PER CITY CODE SECTION 125-191, SINGLE-FAMILY LOW DENSITY ZONE, R-1, FOR NUMBER 4, BUILDING HEIGHTS.

NO BUILDING WILL HE CAN SEED 25 FEET ABOVE GRADE AND EXCEPT THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR BUILDINGS WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET ABOVE GRADE MAY BE APPROVED. SYNOPSIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

THIS IS NOT A VARIANCE APPLICATION.

VARIANCES ARE ALLOWED FOR MODIFICATION FOR CERTAIN ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATION AND CONDITIONAL USES.

BASICALLY ARE ALLOWED DESIRABLE USES NOT APPROPRIATE GENERALLY AND DO NOT AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, HEALTH, GOOD ORDER, CONVENIENCE AND THE GENERAL WELFARE.

ALL AFFECTED CITY DEPARTMENTS AND REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE -- TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A

HEIGHT OF 35 FEET. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MR. GILMORE. I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THIS. IF THE CHAMBER WAS FULL OF PUBLIC, IT WILL BE MOSTLY FOR THE PUBLIC.

SOME MONTH AGO WE MADE A CHANGES IN AN ORDINANCE ON CONDITIONAL USE FOR HEIGHT CONSIDERATIONS AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR ONLY EAST OF THE CONTROL LINE WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A1A.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: SO -- >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PROCESSES BUILDING PERMITS, WE WERE PUTTING POTENTIAL APPLICANTS, IF YOU WILL, IN A DOUBLE JEOPARDY THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO COME FOR A CONDITIONAL USE WITH HEIGHT. AND IT WAS DEALT WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESS AS WELL.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: THAT WAS NOT FOR HEIGHT BUT OF EAST OF THE

CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE ONLY. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR HEIGHT, BUT ALL CONSTRUCTION CONSIDERATIONS EAST OF THE CONTROL LINE. THIS FALL WEST OF THE CONTROL

LINE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YOU INDICATE IN YOUR REPORT IT IS A FEMA ELEVATION AND SO THEY -- BECAUSE OF THE FEMA ELEVATION THE OVERALL ELEVATION YOU HAVE A GRADE OF THIS UNIT IS EXCEEDING THE ALLOWABLE HE WILL VISION OR AM I MISREADING THAT.

>> A QUESTION RERAISED A YEAR AGO ORIGINALLY AND MODELLED IT UP AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND ULTIMATELY WHATEVER THAT GRADE POINT IS THAT FEMA DETERMINED YOU NEED TO BE YOU HAVE A THE GROUND TO START THE CONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS THE GRADE AND IN THIS IS STANCE 33 FEET ON TOP OF THAT.

IF IT IS SIX FEET, EIGHT FEET, TEN FEET, YOU HAVE 33 FEET ABOVE

THAT. >> CORRECT.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WHAT TRIGGER THIS TO BE A CONDITIONAL

USE. >> MARCIA BAKER: TWO EXTRA

FEET. >> VENNIS GILMORE: THE MAXIMUM WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE IS 28. THE APPLICANT IS FOR 33 FEET.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: LET'S ASSUME SIX FEET OVER STREET GRADE. A STRUCTURE 39 FEET TALL, THOUGH THEY HAVE DONE THE APPROPRIATE THING BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE IS

33 AND THE SIX OF THE TRADE. >> I KIND OF READ -- BECAUSE SOMEWHAT CONFUSING TO ME AS I READ THROUGH ALL THE REAMS OF PAPER WHEN I COUNTED ALL THE DRAWINGS.

I WANTED TO BE CERTAIN FOR GENERAL PUBLIC LISTENING IN ON

[02:10:03]

THIS MEETING THAT THEY HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHY THIS WHOLE CONSIDERATION CAME INTO PLAY.

BUT I THINK I MISSED THE FACT THAT WE ARE TECHNICALLY FIVE FEET OVER. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE NEW HOUSE NEXT TO IT?

>> THAT I AM NOT AWARE, AND I BELIEVE ONE OR TWO ACTIONS FOR APPROVAL OF THE SAME MATTER PREVIOUSLY RIGHT ON THUMB POINT WHERE THEY WERE APPROVED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HEIGHT.

>> MARCIA BAKER: ONE OF THEM WAS NEXT DOOR.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: YES. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUESTIONS? NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

I WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, NOW IS YOUR TIME. YOU ARE THE OWNER?

>> HUGH BLACKMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

DO I NEED TO SIGN IN? >> THAT IS OKAY, I HAVE GOT YOUR NAME. FIRST YOU HAVE A, MY NAME IS HUGH BLACKMAN. GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY HOW WE CAME TO FORT PIERCE AND SO F H FORTH.

MY INLAW LIVED IN FORT PIERCE FOR 41 YEARS.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR 35.

WE HAVE BEEN COMING BACK TO FORT PIERCE FOR THAT 35-YEAR TIME FRAME, YOU KNOW FISHING AND HANGING OUTS.

WE LOVE THE BEACHES AND SO F H FORTH.

OUR LIFELONG GOALS WOULD TO BE RETIRE -- MOVE TO FORT PIERCE AND RETIRE BECAUSE I LOVE FISHING AND THIS KIND OF STUFF.

WE BOUGHT A CONDO IN 2017 OVER IN HARBOR ISLES.

AT THIS TIME DIDN'T HAVE ANY GRANDBABY AND IN A TWO AND T E THREE-YEAR PERIOD STARTED A TO HAVE A LOT OF GRAND BABIES AND OUTGREW THE CONDO. WE SOLD THE CONDO.

LOOKED THAT THE LOT. THE THUMB POINT LOT.

ONE SUNDAY MORNING AFTER WE SOLD THE CONDO, A FOR SALE AND UNDER CONTRACT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND THEY WERE SUBDIVIDING THE LO THE. THERE WAS ONE BIG LOT AND THEY MADE TWO LOTS. HE CALLED ON IT TO SEE IF IT WAS AVAILABLE. THEY JUST DROPPED A CONTRACT ON IT THAT NIGHT BEFORE. WE PUT A DEPOSIT ON IT.

AND THEN -- IT WAS GOING TO BE A SLOW PROCESS OF A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD BETWEEN -- I JUST TURNED 60 AND PLANNING TO RETIRE AROUND 67, 65 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND A SLOW PROCESS OF RETIRING, BUILDING A HOUSE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WELL, MY -- -- MY FATHER-IN-LAW, ACTUALLY LAST SEPTEMBER.

SO -- SO THE PROCESS OF THE BUILDING SPED UP A LOT.

BECAUSE MY WIFE WANT TO GET DOWN TO HELP HER MOM AND LIVE CLOSER TO HER MOM SO SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF HER BECAUSE SHE IS 87 YEARS S OLD. SO -- EXCUSE ME.

SO THE WHOLE PROCESS HAS SPED UP A LOT.

TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING LINED UP AND ALL THAT.

LONG STORY SHORT, ONE OF MY WIFE'S BIGGEST FEAR IS LIVING ON THE WATER IS -- WE THRILL CAME DOWN TO HELP MY INLAW WHEN THE STORM HIT A LONG TIME AGO AND A 30-FOOT SAILBOAT IN THE FRONT PARKING LOT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT. BUT BACK BEFORE THEY DID THE -- THE MARINA AND ALL THIS. BUT IT ACTUALLY HAD A 30-FOOT SAILBOAT IN THE FRONT -- FRONT OF THEIR PARKING LOT.

MY IN LAWS LIVE ON BAYSHORE DRIVE AND NO DAMAGE TO THEIR CONDO BUT THE ROOF. REDO THE AIR CONDITIONER.

AND MY WIFE'S BIGGEST CONCERN. HIGH AND DRY AND A SOLID CONCRETE STRUCTURE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE BLOWN AWAY OR HAVE FLOOD. A FIVE-FOOT BASED FLOOD ELEVATION AS FAR AS THE FEMA -- BASE ODD AN FIVE-FOOT BASE FLOOD, BUT RIGHT NOW THE ACTUAL EXISTING DIRT IS A THREE FOOT YEARS IT 6 FOOT 4 ABOVE SEA LEVEL AND FROM THE FIVE-FOOT LEVEL LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, YOU GO UP TO GET YOUR MACK MUM

[02:15:02]

HEIGHT MANY HOUSES. THAT WAS HER BIGGEST CONCERN, TO BE HIGH AND DRY. THE WHOLE FIRST LEVEL.

NO LIVING SPACE ON THE FIRST LEVEL.

ALL GARAGE AND STORAGE. SECOND LEVEL WILL BE THE LIVING AREA AND ALL THAT. AND IT IS GOING TO HAVE -- EVENTUALLY MY WIFE'S MOTHER IS 8 87.

SHE LIVES RIGHT THERE ON BAYSHORE LESS THAN A MILE.

SHE SAYS SHE IS NOT GOING TO LIVE WITH US BUT I KNOW DOWN THE ROAD SHE WILL PROBABLY END UP LIVING WITH US AND MY WIFE WILL BE TAKING CARE OF HER AND THAT KIND OF STUFF AND MAKE SURE IT IS HIGH AND DRY AND SAFE FOR HER ALSO.

THE WHOLE REASON WE HAD TO LIFT IT UP.

WE COULD BUILD IT PRETTY CLOSE TO THE AND THE FIRST LEVEL DOWN ON THE DIRT. I NOTICE THAT EVERY HOUSE ON THAT STREET HAVE LIFTED UP TO GET ABOVE THAT LEVEL SO YOUR FLOOD -- THE FIVE-FOOT BASE FLOOD IS A DEAL THAT WITHIN A 200-YEAR PERIOD THE HIGHEST THAT THE WATER HAS EVER BEEN ON THE ISLAND. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AT LEAST A FOOT AND THREE INCHES ABOVE THAT LEVEL SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT IN THE NUTSHELL. I SAID THE PROCESS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SLOW DRAWN OUT PROCESS BUT AFTER LAST SEPTEMBER.

MY WIFE TELLS ME ALL THE TIME. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE HOUSE. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MOVE DOWN THERE AND RAPID SPED UP A LOT SINCE SEPTEMBER.

THAT'S IT. >> MR. BLACKMAN, WE APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR LOSS AND HOW TAXING THAT CAN BE.

>> YOU LIVE IN APOPKA. >> WE ACTUALLY LIVE IN ORLANDO.

YEAH, I BUILD A NUMBER OF HOME IN ORLANDO.

I NEVER -- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER DONE THIS.

IT IS KIND OF INTERESTING. BUT IT IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT BUILDING ON THE WATER THAN IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STATE FOR SURE. UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE WE HAVE TO PUT 52 STEEL COLUMNS. AND HAVE A POURED BEAM UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE AND WILL BE LIKE A BRIDGE WHEN IT IS DONE.

>> WELCOME TO FORT PIERCE OFFICIALLY.

>> WE LOVE FISH. I SPENT A WHOLE WEEK WITH THE BROTHER-IN-LAW. WE COME DOWN AND DO SNOOK FISHING. THE WATER THIS WEEKEND WAS TOO CLEAR. HARD TO CATCH THEM.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MARCIA BAKER: YES, WELCOME TO THE BEACH.

>> THANK YOU. >> MARCIA BAKER: AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE TO SEE SOMETHING GOING ON OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH ON THAT PROPERTY FOR THE LAST 15, 16 YEARS SINCE THE TWIN HURRICANES. AND A PLEASURE TO GET.

I AM A NEIGHBOR OF YOURS. I LIVE ON SEAWAY DRIVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> MARCIA BAKER: CONGRATULATIONS AND MY CONDOLENCES ALSO ON YOUR LOSS.

>> THANK YOU. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE GOT AS MUCH INVESTED IN TO THE FOUNDATION PROPERTIES UNDER THE HOUSE AS IN THE HOUSE.

>> WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED SHOPPING THE PRICE ALMOST A YEAR AGO BECAUSE LIKE I SAID A SLOW DEAL.

$52,000 JUST FOR THE POLES UNDERNEATH IT.

I AM SURE WITH CONCRETE AND BLOCK, IT WILL GO UP -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER UNTIL I GET CLOSER.

>> I HEARD AS MUCH AS 65% FOR CONCRETE.

>> IT IS HARD TO EVEN GET. SO IT IS GOING TO BE FUN.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: OKAY. WE HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND COME BACK TO VENISS.

>> MARCIA BAKER: I MOVE APPROVAL BURDGE PWURJZ SECONDS.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ALL THE ROLL.

>> BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM. >> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES.

>> MARCIA BAKER: YES. >> HAROLD ALBURY: YES.

> MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES.

[e. Conditional Use and Site Plan (Development Review and Design Review) - U-Haul Storage - 3602 S. US Highway 1]

ON YOUR WAY TO THE COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NEXT ITEM ITEM E ON OUR AGENDA.

CONDITIONAL USE AND SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR U-HAUL STORAGE. 3602 U.S. HIGHWAY 1.

I AM SURPRISED THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE THEY EVEN ASKED -- THEY SENT AN E-MAIL.

SO I DON'T KNOW. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I WOULD THINK SOMETHING THIS SIZE COMMERCIAL WOULD SEE THE APPLICANT. YOU ARE ON POINT.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS. CONDITIONAL USE FOR 3602 SOUTH

[02:20:03]

U.S. HIGHWAY 1 FOR U-HAUL STORAGE.

LOCATED EAST OF U.S. HIGHWAY 1. CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WITH A ZONING OF C 3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. BEFORE IS YOU THE SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN. THE PROPOSED TREES INCLUDE TWO ORANGE GEIGER HOLLY, 18 CREPE CREPE MYRTLES AND THREE SOUTHERN OAK LIVE OAKS. PALMS INCLUDE 12 CABBAGE PALMETTOS AND SIX FLORIDA THAT MUCH PALM.

THE APPLICANT WILL NOT BE UTILIZING THE ENTIRE SITE BECAUSE IT WILL BE THREE PARCELS AND UTILIZING THE FRONT ENDS.

NORTHERN HE WILL VATION. SOUTH ELEVATION, EAST ELEVATION, AND WEST ELEVATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH TWO CONDITIONS. NUMBER ONE, A CERTIFIED LETTER FROM CAST ESTIMATE BOND PURSUANT TO CITY TOAD 123-6 SHOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE SITE. NUMBER TWO, PRIOR TO A SITE WORK PER MYTH APPROXIMATELY ALL PROPERTIES -- PERMIT WILL NEED TO BE COMBINED WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OFFICE AND UNITY TITLE WITH THE ST. LUCIE CLERK OF COURTS POSSIBLE ARCS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE. RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY

QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE. >> MARCIA BAKER: I GUESS IF THE OWN ISN'T HERE, MR. GILMORE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

I READ PROPOSAL AND THEY HAVE THE UNIT AND PODS AND PUT THEIR SNUFF THERE AND TRANSPORTED BACK TO THE STORAGE UNIT.

WHERE STOCK MARKETLY ON THE N PLANS ARE THESE SELF-CONTAINED UNITS GOING TO BE. ARE THERE THEY THE PART THAT SAYS U-HAUL? OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN THE

CLIMATE CONTROLLED AREA. >> VENNIS GILMORE: IN THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED AREA. THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE INSIDE THE BUILDING. THEY ARE ALL IN THE BUILDING.

LET ME SEE PARTICULAR GO TO -- >> MARCIA BAKER: THE PODS WILL BE WHEELED INTO THE CLI CLIMATE-CONTROLLED AREA.

>> VENNIS GILMORE: CORRECT. >> MARCIA BAKER: OKAY, THANK

YOU. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THE ENTIRE BUILDING IS CLIMATE CONTROLLED, IS IT NOT?

>> VENNIS GILMORE: YES. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NOT JUST THE SECTION THAT SAYS CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

>> MARCIA BAKER: I THOUGHT THEY STORED THEM OUTSIDE.

>> NO OUTSIDE STORAGE. >> VENNIS GILMORE: WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT BAKER FWIBINGZ THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, DO

THEY HAVE FACILITIES IN FLORIDA. >> VENNIS GILMORE: NOT FORT PIERCE, BUT I HAVE SEEN THEM OTHER PLACES, PORT ST. LUCIE.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUESTIONS? > MICHAEL BRODERICK: THESE THINGS ARE CROPPING UP.

>> NOT EVEN A HALF A MILE AWAY FROM THAT ONE.

>> MARCIA BAKER: MOVE APPROVAL. >> NICHELLE CLEMONS: SECOND.

>> MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS, STAFF

RECOMMENDATIONS. >> MARCIA BAKER: WHATEVER THEY WERE, I WOULD APPROVE.

>> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WE HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BY MISS BAKER AND A SECOND BY MISS CLEMENS.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES.

>> BOB BURDGE: YES. >> MARCIA BAKER: YES.

>> HAROLD ALBURY: YES. > MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES,

MA'AM. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES, MA'AM. I DON'T WHAT OUR EXCUSE CAN BE TODAY, BUT I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD MEETING AT NIGHT AND MIGHT BE 9:30 AND 10:00 AND YOU START TO GET A LITTLE ON THAT --

>> LOOPY. >> FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THERE

[f. Site Plan (Development and Design Review) - Kings Highway Commerce Park Phase II - SE corner of Kings Highway and White Road approximately ½ mile north of Okeechobee Road (9 Parcels)]

YOU GO, LOOPY. ITEM SFSHTION OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW KINGS HIGHWAY COMMERCE PARK PHASE 2, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF KINGSHIGHWAY AND WHITE ROAD APPROXIMATELY ONE-HALF MILE INVOLVE ARE OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD, NINE PARCELS.

AGAIN THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE. AND THIS IS EVEN A LARGER PROJECT. AND -- I -- I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN APPLICANTS ARE NOT -- DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO COME TO THE MEETING.

[02:25:07]

>> VENNIS GILMORE: GOOD AFTERNOON.

BEFORE IS YOU A KINGSHIGHWAY COMMERCE PARK DESIGN REVIEW FOR SUBJECT PROPERTY. KINGS [NULL] HIGHWAY.

YOU SAW THE PLAN. 107.55 ACRE.

THIS IS FOR THE SECOND PHASE. THE FIRST PHASE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH CITY COM N COMMISSION.

THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE SUBJECT SITE IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL, GC. THE ZONING -- CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS PARCEL IS CP, COMMERCIAL PARKWAY.

AND BEFORE YOU IS THE PHASE SITE PLAN.

PHASE 1 JUST TO THE SOUTHWEST HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

BEEN TO TECHNICAL REVIEW, PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION. THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE PLAN HAS ALSO BEEN APPROVED. THIS APPLICATION IS SIMPLY FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE LARGER BUILDING OF THE COMPLETE MASTER PLAN AND INCLUDES 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, 710.5,000 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE. 623 PARKING SPACES WITH 13 HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE SPACES. LANDSCAPING INCLUDE RED MAPLES, GREEN BUTTONWOODS, CREPE MYRTLE, JAPANESE PREVIT, PINE, LIVE OAK, PINK TABUBUA, PALMS AN LIVING WALLS..

HERE IS ONE OF THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE SPACE. THE SOUTH ELEVATION WEST.