[1. CALL TO ORDER *A portion of this video is without video and audio*]
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
[a. Zoning Text Amendment - Chapter 125 – Zoning, Article IV – Basic Zoning Districts, Section 125-212. – Planned Development Zone (PD); Deleting Section 125-213. - Planned Unit Redevelopment Zone (PUR)]
[b. Zoning Text Amendment - Chapter 125 – Zoning, Article I – General, Section 125–3 – Definitions Generally to add and Clarify Definitions; to Include a Definition of Agricultural, Amending Chapter 125 – Zoning, Article IVV– Basic Zoning Districts, Section 125–187, Subsection (g) – Allowed Uses to Amend the Use Table; to Include Agricultural Use and Railroad Passenger Station Use by Right in Certain Zoning Districts; Amending Chapter 125 – Zoning, Article VII – Supplementary Regulations, Division 1 – Generally, Section 125-318 – Home Occupations to include Reference to State Statute Establishing Section 125–328 – Boardinghouses and Roominghouses to Regulate the Locations and Standards of Operation of Boardinghouses and Roominghouses]
[9. BOARD COMMENTS]
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LIKE ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO GET THE MOST WE CAN GET FOR THE CITY
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FOR THESE PROPERTIES AND WAS OVER PROPERTY THAT A VERY, VERY LOW BID BUT IT WAS THE WINNING[01:28:25]
BID, TECHNICALLY, BUT IT WAS A LOW BID WHEN HE MADE THAT COMMENT.[01:28:29]
AND IT RATTLED MY MIND ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. WE HAD ALREADY MADE THE MOTION,[01:28:38]
MADE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR SALE BUT YOU SEEM ON THESE BOARDS UNTIL WE BANGED THE[01:28:46]
GAVEL AND SAY WE ARE ALL DONE WE ARE ADJOURNED WE CAN GO BACK AND REVISIT AN ITEM.[01:28:57]
IT WAS THE ONLY TIME I RECALL THAT I WAS EVER CHAIR HOLDING ITEM BACKUP THAT WE ALREADY HAD[01:29:07]
A MOTION ON. I'M LOOKING OVER TO ALICIA JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF SHE CAN THINK[01:29:12]
OF ANY OTHERS BUT BECAUSE THE ONLY ONE EVER DONE WHERE I CALLED THEM BACK OFF FOR[01:29:16]
RECONSIDERATION. ALL OVER A COMMENT AND WHEN MR. AUBREY MADE THE COMMENT HE MADE[01:29:22]
OVER ITEM NINE WHATEVER ITEM IT WAS I AM SURE HE WASN'T THINKING ABOUT ITEM 6 AT THAT[01:29:29]
TIME. BUT JUST THE WAY HE SAID WHAT HE SAID IS WILLING TO GO BACK[01:29:36]
AND LOOK AT THIS AND I PULLED IT BACK UP AND WE DISCUSSED IT ALL OVER AGAIN, REHEARD IT, AND[01:29:42]
I THINK WE DENIED IT FOR THE SALE. AND IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION[01:29:46]
TO DENIAL. BUT HAD HE NOT SAID WHAT HE SAID I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE[01:29:53]
EVEN THOUGHT BACK ON THAT ITEM AT ALL I WOULD'VE JUST KEPT ON GOING DOWN THE ROAD.[01:30:00]
SO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO SAY WE NEED TO SAY IT IN HERE. NOW, NOT TOO LONG AGO I BROUGHT[01:30:06]
UP A POINT OF ALSO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE SAY AND THIS IS MY OPINION AND I[01:30:17]
THINK IT WAS REINFORCED AND IF FOR ALL OF US ALL OF THOSE THOSE THAT DID NOT ATTEND THE OCTOBER 24 MEETING WAS ON THE 24TH? WHERE THE CONSULTANT WAS HERE TO QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS I THINK IT WAS THE 24TH.I RECOMMEND GOING BACK PULLING IT UP IT'S ON VIDEO. I THINK BOTH THE SESSIONS TO ONE THE COMMISSION IS ON VIDEO AS WELL AS ONE FOR THE BOARDS. I SAT THROUGH THEM. I ASKED A QUESTION BUT I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT MY FEELNG IS THE REQUIREENT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO THE BOARD BEING THAT WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD TO QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS HELD BY THE COMMISSION THAT WHEN WE MAKE STATEMENTS THAT IT SHOULD BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD THAT TESTIMONY WOULD BE HELD TO IN THE QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. NOW, IF WE WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND IT'S WHAT I FEEL MY FEELING IS THAT'S NOT A STATEMENT OF TESTIMONY I'M ENTITLED TO HAVE THAT. IT'S ONE OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.TO FREE SPEECH SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S ABUSED. BUT NONETHELESS IF YOU MAKE A STATEMENT IT'S YOUR FEELING, YOUR EXPRESSION, THAT'S ONE THING AND ALL QUESTIONS ARE WIDE OPEN SO THE WAY THAT WE HELP KEVIN IS WHEN HE HEARS THESE LITTLE THINGS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND A QUESTION FOR SOMETHING WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT SPARK SOMETHING IN AN ORDINANCE AND LOOKS AT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE AND THEN YOU GO TO THE PROCESS TO COME BACK AROUND TO COME THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR, AS WELL. BUT THIS BOARD DOES PLAY A BIG ROLE.
AND THAT PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN THE PLANNING OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.
THIS DISCUSSION WE WERE JUST HAVING OVER ALTERNATIVE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS IS ONE OF THEM. AND IT'S SOMETHING AROUND THE COUNTRY WE ARE SEEING MORE OF AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T APPLY IT HERE. AND NOW THE STATE WAS MOVING OPENED THE DOOR TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT WITHOUT DIFFICULTY AND INFRINGING AND THE PROBLEMS WITH THE STATE STATUTES. SO I THINK THE TIMING IS RIGHT BUT YOU BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB AND MOVING YOUR DEPARTMENT IN A FORWARD DIRECTION TO DO A LITTLE MORE PLANNING AND IS SOMETHING THE CITY HAS BEEN LACKING FOR A LONG TIME. YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE'VE BEEN PLANNING A REALLY WITHIN IT RESPONDING.
>> HERE IS BY POINTS. THE QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. WE RESPOND TO ORDINANCE OR FOUND ORDINANCES MEETING THE RULES WHICH IS TRULY THE VISION IF YOU COMMENT ON THEM WHICH HELPED ME SHAPE THE VISION THAT YOU ANDYOUR TEAM HAS . AND WHEN I ASK ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY WE AS INDIVIDUALS ALL HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWNOPINIONS, RIGHT , TO HELP SHAPE RESPONSIBILITY OR THE VISION OF THE CITY AND AT THIS POINT IT'S NOT CLEAR I GUESS THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE GOING. I GET THAT.
>> IF WE EVER HAVE A CLEAR DEFINED VISION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING OR PROBABLY GOING IN THE WRONG WERE NOT DOING ANYTHING. WHEN. .
I SAID MANY TIMES AND I SAID IT TO COMMISSIONERS, I SAID TO THE MAN, SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE NEW NEWS TO MOST TO THE CITY. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TIMES ARE SET BACK AND LOOKED AT THE
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CITY OF FORT IERCE AND I SAID THE PROBLEM CITY FORT PIERCE IS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO BE IN THE NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THERE. BUT THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO CITIES.THAT'S TRUE WITH SOME OF THE OLDEST CITIES IN AMERICA THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING, WHAT THEY WANT TO BE OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THERE. AND WITH ALL THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN AMERICA I THINK THAT'S THE TESTIMONY THAT SHOWS THOSE COMMENTS ARE PRETTY CORRECT. BUT THERE IS NO DEFINED SYSTEM SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE HEARING A CASE IN EVANSVILLE. PASSIONATELY ABOUT MISSION THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR.
BUT AGAIN I ALWAYS TRY TO CAUTION THE BOARD IF IT'S AN OPINION WITH NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT IT'S ONLY AN OPINION. IF OUR OPINION IS THAT IF THIS WERE TO BE BUILT ON THAT LOT THAT IS GOING TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT THOSE PROPERTY VALUES.
THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN WHAT I JUST SAID, IT'S AN OPINION.
IF WE START OFF WITH THIS IS MY OPINION ABOUT THIS THEN WE ARE NOT PROJECTING THAT IT FALLS UNDER THE GUIDELINES, YES, YOU KNOW.
[8. DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
>> ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, I'M GOOD TO GO BACK TO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT?
>> WELL, THE REPORT IS RELATING TO THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, REALLY.
WE HAVE REACTED TO THE ISSUE THAT WE SAW IN CITY COMMISSION AND PLANNING BOARD REGARDING PLANET DEVELOPMENT AND YOU HAVE SEEN THAT AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT NOW.
WE ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF MY WORKLOAD IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS AND COMING THROUGH TO THE NEW YEAR WILL BE WAITING ON HOPEFULLY THE BRIGHT LINE RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS THAT THEY HAVE ISSUED. AND COMING UP WITH HIS MIDDLE.
WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S HELPING US DO THAT AND THAT HAS BEEN ORGANIZED TO THE CITY MANAGED DEPARTMENT AND THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION WHICH ARE INVOLVED IN THIS ALSO. SO I WOULD HOPEFULLY BE REPORTING SOME OF THAT, I THINK, PROBABLY IN JANUARY AFTER WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT YOU MIGHT GET HOLD OF THAT CITY COMMISSION BEFORE I'M ABLE TO REPORT ON THAT. THAT'S I THINK ONE OF THE VISIONS THAT I HAD WHEN I FIRST CAME TO FORT PIERCE WAS THAT WE WOULD GET THE BRIGHT LINE STATION AND FROM THAT WE WOULD SEE A WHOLE DIFFERENT THOUGHT PROCESS FOR FORT PIERCE AND THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT LIKELY IS TO COME IN AND PART OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO DURING THE LAST YEAR IS SET UP A BETTER FRAMEWORK TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT.
WE ARE BUSY, WE ARE STILL GETTING A LOT OF APPLICATIONS COME FORWARD.
THE MARKET HAS SLOWED DOWN IN TERMS OF MONEY SUPPLY BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AFFECTING THE INTEREST IN MITIGATING ENTITLEMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
SO PART OF THAT PLANET DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND SOME OF THE RIB DEFINITIONS ARE GOING TO BE HELPING THAT AND WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT IT TODAY BUT I THINK THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND GETTING THAT RIGHT AND THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS IN GETTING THE DENSITIES RIGHT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE FIX THA , QUICKLY. BEFORE WE SEE ANOTHER RAFT OF INVESTMENT COMING IN AND POTENTIALLY DAMAGING THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN BEING ABLE TO FOCUS ON REBUILDING SOME OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC
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REPORT IT'S I'M REALLY OVERWHELMED AT THE MOMENT WITH LOTS GOING ON AND THE BRIGHT LINE AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY THAT'S WITH A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME.>> THAT'S A BIG PROJECT IN ITSELF.
>> YES. LEX EVERYBODY IN THE CITY > EVERYBODY IN THE CITY KNOWS I'M NOT A BIG FANOF A BRIGHT LINE .
>> I WILL CONVINCE YOU. > I AM A FAN IF WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BYLINE RULING THERE ARE CITY I'VE BEEN A FAN THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO HAVE A STOP HERE IF WE COULD. AND I WILL SUPPORT THAT DECISION TO DO THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I THINK ONE IS RELATED TO THE OTHER BUT I LOOK AT IT AS TWO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS. SO KEEP IT UP. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND A LOT OF VISITS HERE IN FORT PIERCE A LOT OF MEETINGS GOING ON.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT LAYERS INVOLVED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT THAT'S HAVING DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN HELPFUL OR NOT.
PROBABLY DOES NOT HURT THE BIG PICTURE.
>> THINGS ARE HAPPENING, THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN POSITION TO SETOURSELVES UP .
>> BEANS HAVE BEEN SPILLED IN THE MEDIA LATELY THAT THERE SOME ACTIVITY OR DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY ONE AIRLINE THAT'S INTERESTED IN UTILIZING OUR AIRPORT.
WE HAVE STILL AN INTEREST IN THE POSSIBILITY OF A SEAPORT HERE IN FORT PIERCE, I BELIEVE.
JACK HASN'T PASSED ANYTHING ON TO ME IN A WHILE SO IF HE'S NOT TELLING ME ANYTHING IT MUST BE STILL MOVING FORWARD. WITH THE FAA PERMITS PENDING THERE'S A DISCUSSION OF THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER LARGE DEVELOPMENT OUT ON THE ISLAND ON THE INTERCOASTAL.
IMAGINE THERE IS PROBABLY A LOT OF MIXED OPINIONS ABOUT THAT, AS WELL.
I HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH A COUPLE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS CONCERNING THAT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO WITH KINGS LANDING IS BROKEN GROUND.
THEY BRING THE DIRT IN. BUT THINGS ARE MOVING, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PERMITS.
>> RECENTLY, I MET WITH THEM WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DISCUSSING PERMITS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH ON THAT. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE APPLICATION COME IN YET FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ON A SOUTH BEACH THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THAT I KNOW IT'S OUT THERE. THE CITY COURT I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE COUNTY SUPPORT DIRECTOR AND HE REMINDED ME JUST THEN THAT THE END OF THIS MONTH I'M HOPING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS REPORT TO LOOK AT A ZONING OVERLAY DISTRICT WHICH WILL THEN COME TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
>> YOUR PREDECESSOR WAS WORKING ON THAT BUT IT NEVER CAME.
>> WE DID HERE, WE APPROVED SOMETHING CONCERNING AN OVERLAY FOR THE CITY PORT BUT IT WASN'T FINAL DOCUMENT.
>> IT WASN'T FINAL DOCUMENT THERE WERE STILL NEGOTIATIONS WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE AT THAT TIME WE HAD A PORCH DIRECTOR THE COUNTY SHALL I SAY NOT RESPONSIVE. WITH NEWPORT DIRECTOR NOW THAT WERE ENGAGED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PORT AND SO WE HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY INFORMING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND GETTING SOME A REVISED CODE BACK TO THE COUNTY WHICH, IN ESSENCE, THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF ON I'M JUST WAITING FOR FINAL ON THAT. WE ARE MOVING AHEAD I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS HAD SOME DIFFICULTY RECENTLY WITH THE OUTAGES SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE MOVE AHEADWITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS .
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS ON WHETHER THEY SUPPORTED IT OR NOT.
SO IT HAS BEEN MY JOB TO TRY TO DEVELOP AN OVERLY THAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY WHICH IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
>> SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW FAR BACK THAT WAS THE PLAN INITIALLY WAS
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TO CREATE AN OVERLY FOR THE WHOLE PORT AREA THAT INCLUDED PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE COUNTY PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE CITY PROPERTIES. THAT WOULD FREE PROOF USES PRE-APPROVE USES THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED. AS THE PROPERTY WOULD BE SOLD FOR PARTICULAR USE THAT WAS PREAPPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT WITH TO COME BACK TO THE CITY PROCESS TO BE FINALIZED FOR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT ENTITY WITHIN THE OVERLAY BUT IT WOULD BE PREAPPROVED IN TERMS OF RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT AREA AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.IT WAS GOING TO BE A BETTER USAGE OF THE EXISTING PARK THAT SITTING IN THERE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE MANY PEOPLE EVEN KNOW IS THERE. BUT THERE IS A PARK OVER THERE AND IT'S OVER TOWARDS THE TAYLOR CREEK MARINA IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT.
I HAVE NOT BEEN DOWN IN THERE IN THE YEARS, MYSELF. I GO BY IT BUT I DON'T GET DONE IN THERE MUCH. SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS WITHIN THE PAST PROBABLY THREE YEARS.
>> WE DID HEAR A PART OF IT AT ONE TIME IT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION AND LAYOUT AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. THE CITY IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT THE BOAT RAMPS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SEAWAY. WHATEVER BECAME OF THE DISCUSSION OF A SALE OF THE
PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENT THERE? >> I THINK THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN A LEGAL DISCUSSION AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES RELATING TO THE BOAT RAMPS AND THE USE OF THE BOAT RAMPS AND OBJECTIONS FROM SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT LOCATION. IT WAS PART OF THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND FISHERMAN'S WHARF IT WAS EARMARKED FOR DEVELOPMENT AS A BOAT STORAGE AND RESTAURANTS AND SO FORTH. NOW, THE COUNTY HAVE COME FORWARD WITH SOME PROPOSALS OR NOT COME FORWARD, THEY ARE AWARE THAT THE COUNTY ARE MORE INCLINED TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PARK AREA, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STORM WATER RETAINAGE AT THAT AREA, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AND ALLOWANCES OF THE COUNTY PROPERTY? SO I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THOSE THREE YEARS WE HAVE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES IN THIS PROCESS WHICH IS WHY I'M FEELING MORE CONFIDENT ABOUT HAVING A MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS NOW THAN WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE WHICH I THOUGHT WAS MY PRIORITY WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE THAT WAS MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.
I HAD SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS THERE WITH THOSE DISSOLVED WITHOUT ANY SORT OF RESOLUTION BUT ALSO THE COUNTY, THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, WAS JUST MISSING THAT PART NOW WE'VE GOT THIS NOW JOSHUA I THINK HIS NAME IS THE NEWPORT DIRECTOR AND HE HAS BEEN MUCH MORE APPROACHABLE AND INTERACTIVE WITH THIS. I AM MORE HOPEFUL NOW THERE'S NO GUARANTEE BUT I THINK THE MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHICH I WANT TO ARRANGE IT VERY SOON SO GIVE ME FINAL DIRECTION ON THAT AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD. AS A OVERLAY DISTRICT WERE DISTRICTS AND YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART HERE IS SECURING THE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT PORT AREA SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS BETWEEN THE PD OR SOMETHING TO GET A PARTICULAR USE SO WERE TRYING TO ITEMIZE ALL THE POTENTIAL USES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PORT WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU SAW AND ENGAGE THOSE AND OVERLAY DISTRICT. IT'S QUITE AN INTERESTING PROJECT. > STREAMLINES THE WHOLE OPERATION. PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO CONTINUOUSLY COME IN AND OUT PRIOR TO THE SALE TRY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT X CAN BE BUILT AND IS ON PROPERTY.
THAT'S ALL GOOD STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING IN THECITY . SOMETIMES WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT ENOUGH AND KEEP IT AT THE TOP SO SOMETHING WILL COME TO US AND WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE
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BEING BLINDSIDED BUT WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE SOME FOREWARNING ALTHOUGH WE HAD A PERSONNEL CHANGE OVER ON THE BOARD. IF NO ONE ELSEHAS ANYTHING .>> MR. CHAIR, ONE THING AND YOU BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER, I INTENDED TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS I'LL TRY TO BE REALLY QUICK BECAUSE THIS IS A SHORT AGENDA. BUT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN REALLY CONCERNING ME MONTH IN AND MONTH OUT WE DO THESE MEETINGS AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE VARIETY OF DOMAIN WHEN IT COMES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
WHICH I AM SURE THEY WILL TELL YOU IT'S NOT THAT UNCOMMON CITY ROADS, COUNTY ROADS, STATE ROADS ALL OCCUPYING THE SAME SPACE AND CREATING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR CITY.
WE ARE APPROVING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF ANNEXATION AND WE ARE DOING THIS ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN MANY CASES, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS IN AND ROADS OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER AND I DON'T WANT TO CAST ANY DISPERSIONS UNDER FIND PEOPLE WORKING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL BUT THEY HAVE A BROADER SCOPE OF PRIORITIES THAN JUST THE CITY. AND SO, MY CONCERN IS, I GUESS, IS NOT FOR US HERE BUT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THERE LISTEN TO THIS, HOPEFULLY, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SOME OF THE CONTROL OF THIS DOMAIN I REALLY, REALLY WOULD RECOMMEND WE GO AFTER IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. YOU SPOKE TO INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IN DOWNTOWN THAT WAS NOT OUR STREET, THAT WAS RIDICULOUS. ESPECIALLY THAT IT GOES RIGHT PAST IT A MAJOR PLAN AT THE MOMENT THAT'S INCONSTRUCTION . SO US NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUICKLY AND IN OUR OWN WAY IN THE WAY THAT THE CITY SEES FIT TO REACT TO THESE DEVELOPMENTAL CHANGES AS THINGS GROW AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS CHANGE IT GIVES ME A LOT OF ANXIETY THAT WE ARE GOING TO CREATE PROBLEMS BY TRYING TO DO THINGS GOOD, RIGHT? TRYING TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE SPENDS A LOT OF TIME DRIVING AROUND PORT ST. LUCIE LATELY BUT THEY CLEARLY HAVE LAGGED BEHIND IN THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH VERSUS HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THATHAPPEN HERE . SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT AND WHEN WE SEE ANNEXATIONS IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT I ASK IS IS THIS A CITY ROAD OR COUNTY ROAD?
>> WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS I SPOKE WITH MR. ANDREWS AND ONE OF THE TOPICS WE SPOKE ABOUT WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THEM COME IN AND THIS BOARD OCCASIONALLY ABOUT VARIOUS TOPICS. AND THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD ITEM THE NEXT TIME WE HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE OF THESE SHORT AGENDAS THAT WE INVITE JACK TO US ABOUT HOW THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT INTERFACES WITH THE COUNTY AND STATED TIMES CONCERNING THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY AND HOW OUR CITY AND THE COUNTY, IN PARTICULAR, INTERFACES INTERFACE MORE WITH THE COUNTY, I BELIEVE, REGARDING STREETS, ROADS AND HOW, HOW IS THE DECISION BEING MADE WENT TO LOOK AT JENKINS ROAD TO A WIDENING JENKINS ROAD? TO CONNECT JENKINS ROAD TO MIDWAY ROAD. AND I KNOW THE STUMBLING BLOCKS IS SELF ON JACOBS ROAD SOUTH OF OKEECHOBEE THAT EXISTS AND MAYOR HUDSON MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MADE AT SOME POINT. BUT, ENGINEERING DOES GET ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THAT. I THINK THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE SITUATION DOWN HERE IN DOWNTOWN JUST KIND OF JUMPED OUT OF THE CLOSET AND REALLY SURPRISED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
THAT THAT WAS STRETCHED WAS A COUNTY ROAD IT WAS A COUNTY ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S A COUNTY ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY DISREPAIR.
THE CITY NEVER DID ANYTHING TO REPAIR IT SO YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY KNEW IT WASN'T THE
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ROAD, RIGHT? BUT WHEN THE KING'S LANDING WE WERE ALL WORKING ON KING'S LANDING SO DILIGENTLY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I STARTED TALKING ABOUT HAVING PEARL PARKING PARALLEL PARKING ON INDIAN RIVER AND I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES MY THING, THAT SAID YOU GOT A PROBLEM WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION THAT ROAD IS NOT OURS.I THINK IT JUMPED OUT OF THE CLOSET AND SUPPRESSED SOME PEOPLE IN HIGH LEVEL CHAIRS HERE IN THE CITY. BUT YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO TRY TO MINIMIZE BUT JACK'S DEPARTMENT DOESN'T DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND INTERFACING AS ZONING CHANGES ARE COMING UP AND WE ARE EXHORTING PROPERTIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HE LOOKS AT VERY CLOSELY.
>> ALSO, JUST RECENTLY I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE LOCAL FDO T DISTRICT AND WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT AND WITH THE COUNTY WOULD BE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC. STATEMENTS AND TRAFFIC INVESTIGATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT ROADWAYS AND HOW THAT CALCULATION WOULD BE CARRIED OUT AND THE STATE WOULD LIKE SOME AMENDMENTS MADE TO HELP APPLICANTS PREDICT TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THAT. SO GIVING MY FULL SUPPORT TO THE STATE GETTING INVOLVED AND HOW WE WHAT WE REQUEST FROM APPLICANTS IN TERMS OF THE STRATEGIC TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. THE COUNTY ARE INVOLVED IN THAT SO I HAVE GOT NOW TRAFFIC WHEN APPLICANTS COME FORWARD THEY WILL TALK TO THE STATE, THEY WILL TALK TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY IN THE STATE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE APPROVAL OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
IF THERE ARE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED I HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE STATE AND THE COUNTY ADVISES OF THOSE AND THOSE WOULD BE ATTACHED TO ANY SITE PLAN APPROVALS THAT COME FORWARD. SO IF THERE ARE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED, ROADWAY WIDENING, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A NOTE OF THAT AND ON A FINAL PD AS WE MOVE TO FINAL PD THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THAT THEY WOULD.
>> SO NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC STUDY BUT THE PLAN.
>> WHAT IS THE SOLUTION OF THE COMING UP WITH IMPACTS THAT THE EXISTING ROADWAYS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE? THERE WILL BE A SOLUTION OF HOW THAT FIGURED OUT.
>> THE ONE PROJECT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE THE INTERSECTION THERE THE NAME OF THAT LITTLE STREET OFF OF U.S. ONE HAS TO BE REWORKED AND THE LIGHT HAS TO BE REWORKED AND SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STATE ALL THE PLANNING I WAS TOLD WAS DONE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PBECAUSE WE NEVER SAW ANY DESIGNS. WE WERE ALL TOLD IT WAS DONE AND THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. THE KIND OF MATERIAL THAT WE SHOULD AND IF YOU ALL EVER WANT IF YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME SLEEPING AT NIGHT READING ORDINANCES BUT GRABBING ONE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT COME IN OUR PACKAGES AND START READING ONE OF THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IN THE WORLD THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
IT DRIVES ME CRAZY. I LOVE READING LAW. I DON'T KNOW WHY.
>> I AM GOOD THANKS, CHAIR. >>
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