[b. Presentation by Michael Broderick, Chair, of the Parking Committee's recommendation regarding the Parking Study and extending the 2-hour parking limit around St. Lucie County Courthouse.]

BY MICHAEL BRODERICK CHAIR OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE PARKING STUDY AND EXTENDING THE TWO HOUR PARKING LIMIT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMBS, YOU WANT TO LEAD US INTO THAT?

>>MR. MIMMS: OF COURSE. WE HAVE MICHAEL BRODERICK. IN ADDITION, TO BACK HIM UP IF HE NEEDS IT WE HAVE OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR ANDREA WELLS WHO HELPS STAFF THAT COMMITTEE AND OF COURSE WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PERRONE WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. SO AT THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BRODERICK AND HE WILL REVIEW HIS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD BY THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. MR. BRODERICK, WELCOME?

>> GOOD MORNING. >> I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO

SPREAD OUT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MAKE YOURSELF

COMFORTABLE. >> I WAS GOING TO START OFF MY

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PRESENTATION WITH SOME PARKING COMMITTEE HUMOR, BUT I COULD NOT COME UP WITH ANYTHING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: (LAUGHING). >> MY APOLOGIES. AFTER THAT LAST PRESENTATION, THIS WILL SEEM A LITTLE BIT SUBDUED, BUT I GUESS WE ARE BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE.

>> THE PARKING COMMITTEE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET TWICE PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC SETTING IN IN OUR MEETINGS BEING CANCELED. IN THOSE MEETINGS WE WERE ABLE TO REVIEW A LOT OF WORK THAT THE PRIOR PARKING COMMITTEE HAD COMPLETED AND THAT INCLUDED THE REVIEW OF THE WALKER PARKING STUDY THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED IN 2016. SO THE REPORT IS ABOUT FOUR YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE PARKING COMMITTEE WAS GETTING ITS FEET UNDER IT AND RAMPING UP WHEN MEETINGS HAD TO BE POSTPONED AND AM PLEASED TO SAY WE ARE STARTING BACK UP EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY WITH THE NEXT PARKING COMMITTEE MEETING TO BE HELD IN THE CHAMBERS WILL BE HELD AT NOON IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TO BUSINESS. THIS PARTICULAR MEMO THAT WE HAD DISPATCHED TO THE CITY COMMISSION DEALT WITH TWO ISSUES. THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT THEIR STRATEGY AS BEING A SHORT-TERM STRATEGY, A LONG-TERM STRATEGY AND AN IMMEDIATE NEED STRATEGY. AND THE ISSUES OUTLINED IN THIS MEMO TOUCH ON TWO OF THOSE. ONE IS A REQUEST BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO PUT INTO ABEYANCE TICKETING CARS THAT ARE PARKED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME THAT ARE SERVICING THE COURTHOUSE. SO RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO DO THEIR CIVIC DUTY, I WAS PROBABLY WANT TO GO, BUT COMING OUT HAVING A TICKET ON OUR CAR IS A LITTLE FROSTING ON THE CAKE I WOULD SUGGEST. THE PARKING COMMITTEE REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND WAS A MECHANISM IN PLACE WHERE THE OFFICE AT THE COURTHOUSE WILL ISSUE PARKING PLACARDS TO INSURERS OR POTENTIAL JURORS THAT NEED TO CONTINUE THEIR SERVICE FOR THE DAY OR INTO THE NEXT DAY, ETC. THOSE PLACARDS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE BY 11:30 AM. SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE PARKING IN AND AROUND THAT AREA BE EXTENDED. POTENTIAL JURORS CANNOT GET UP AND LEAVE, WILL NOT RUN INTO THE TWO HOUR PARKING LIMITATION. WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. THE PARKING COMMITTEE WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION TO AN IMMEDIATE NEED ALL THAT LARGER CONSIDERATION IS ADDRESSED MORE FULLY. SO THEY RECOMMENDED STRONGLY THAT THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE FOR THEM. SECONDARILY, THE PARKING COMMITTEE RECEIVED AND REVIEWED THE WALKER PARKING STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. IN A PARTICULAR STUDY FOCUSED ITS ATTENTION VIRTUALLY PRIMARILY ON THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT. THE PARKING COMMITTEE IMMEDIATELY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT HEY, THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION IS PHENOMENALLY WELL DRAFTED, EXTREMELY DETAILED AND IT IS SO GOOD THAT WE WANTED TO COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO REQUEST EXPANDING THAT STUDY, EXPANDING THE STUDY TO NOT ONLY MAKE IT CURRENT FOR 2020, BUT INCLUDE THE OTHER BUSINESS QUARTERS IN THE CITY SOUTH BEACH, THE STUDY FOCUSED ATTENTION AND ALSO TO INCLUDE THE LINKING QUARTERS OF BUSINESS QUARTERS TO AN SERIES AND. A MORE THOROUGH STUDY AND A BALANCE STUDY RELATIVE TO WHERE GOING IN THE FUTURE WITH PARKING. IF YOU GO IN AND READ THE ORIGINAL WALKER STUDY IN 2016, FOUR YEARS AGO THERE INDICATING OR MAKING COMMENT IN THE STUDY REGARDING A POLITICALLY COLLECT, CORRECT WAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY POTENTIALLY BEHIND THE CURVE HERE. I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT WITH THE EXPANSION OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, THE ADVENT OF THE P CARDS DISTRICT ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON LINKIN PARK AND SOUTH BEACH IS JUST MAYHEM ON WEEKENDS IS A GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. ALL OF THESE ARE POSITIVE ECONOMIC DRIVERS FOR THE CITY. THE PARKING COMMITTEE LOOKS AT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TRYING TO ENVISION WHERE THAT'LL BE GOING

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OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AND WHAT WE NEED TO PUSH THOSE SCHOOLS SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM. THE PARKING COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDATION AND AT THEIR LAST MEETING VOTED TO RECOMMEND TO REQUEST THE CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM SEEK AN RFP OR A PROPOSAL SO THE COST COULD BE IDENTIFIED. WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT SINCE THAT MEETING IN MARCH THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN FUNDING IS NOW A BIGGER ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN IN MONTHS OF OR POTENTIAL YEARS. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY WHILE YOU ARE SORTING OUT YOUR FISCAL YEAR I'VE HEARD MR. MIMBS GIVE REPORTS AND HIS TEAM GIVE REPORTS ON WHETHER GOING FOR 2021, ETC., AT LEAST WE CAN GET IN-HOUSE IN THE PARKING COMMITTEE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, DETERMINE WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EXECUTING BUT LET'S GET INFORMATION INTO YOUR HANDS SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUDGETING THAT THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED FROM A LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE FOR PARKING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUSINESS

CORE OF THE CITY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER THE MEETING. BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IF WE HAD GOTTEN THIS STUDY FOUR MONTHS AGO, IT MAY BE STILL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS ARE CHANGED. AND SO I THINK THIS IS TIMELY RIGHT NOW AND IT WILL NOT ONLY HELP WITH OUR PARKING SOLUTIONS, BUT ALSO WITH THE WAY THAT WE REVIEW OUR DOWNTOWN AND BEACH AND PEACOCK AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS AN ECONOMIC DIVISION OF THE CITY IT WILL HELP US MAKE THOSE GOOD DECISIONS. RIGHT NOW STAFF IS OUT THERE WE ARE CLOSING STREETS WERE MAKING EXTRA PARKING HERE DOING ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF AND IT'S LIKE TRIAL AND ERROR RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OUR CITIZENS AND TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE TRYING TO INVENT THE SAME FROM WITHIN. WE HAVE NO EXPERIENCE TO GO TO. SO I REALLY THINK THAT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PARKING COMMITTEE, I'M THINKING YEAH. IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE A TOP PRIORITY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE -- IN THE WORLD OF THOSE THAT KNOW FROM YEARS PAST, IT IS A NEED AND WANT. THIS IS MORE OF A WANT THAN A NEED BUT I THINK IT'S MOVED UP TO A NEED AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE NEED THAT INFORMATION AS WE MAKE DECISIONS OF WHERE FORT PIERCE GOES NOW. AS AN ECONOMIC CENTER. THAT'S MY OPINION. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE YET BECAUSE WE ARE MEETING THIS WEEK. BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S GETTING TO BE MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. NOT JUST MY -- AND THAT'S JUST MY VIEW OF THE WHOLE THING. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION

ON THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE OF HER A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAD TROUBLE WITH THIS ISSUE AND I'VE EVEN HEARD THAT AT THE COURTHOUSE, WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF THE JURORS SAYS -- FORT PIERCE IS NOT -- BLAMES US FOR THE PARKING PROBLEMS. THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD ANECDOTALLY.

AND SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE TRIED TO BE -- WE TRIED TO BE UNDERSTANDING AND WE TRIED TO WORK WITH THE COURT WILL WE TALKED -- I KNOW WITH THE CLERK OF COURT AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF. AND SO ON RECOMMENDATION ONE, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD SHORT-TERM FIX.

AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT AND ALSO THE STUDY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK I -- WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A PARKING PROBLEM DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS FOR A LONG TIME IS GOOD PROBLEMS BECAUSE BUSINESS IS GOOD. SO NOW WE NEED TO GET PAST THAT WE NEED TO GET TO THE NEXT STAGE WHICH IS WE DO HAVE THIS PROBLEM. WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT BUSINESSES ALL THE TIME, BUT WE STILL NEED TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THE PARKING AVAILABILITY. SO I THINK THESE ARE BOTH GOOD SUGGESTIONS AND APPRECIATE THE PARKING COMMITTEE'S INDULGENCE IN TERMS OF THE SECOND ONE IN TERMS OF WHAT COST CONSIDERATIONS AT ALL BECAUSE WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE REVENUE IS NOT HAVING RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE DEAN SAYS SALES TAX. THE STATE IS NOT GETTING SALES TAX. THE CITY IS NOT GETTING THEIR SHARE BECAUSE OF KOVIC. THERE ARE GOING TO BE REVENUE SHORTFALLS. THERE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFICULTIES JUST BECAUSE OF

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THE SHORT TWO MONTHS OF PEOPLE STAYING HOME. I APPRECIATE THEIR INDULGENCE IN TERMS OF

THE TIMING, TO. >> THE PARKING COMMITTEE HAS OTHER OBJECTIVES THAT THEY'RE FORMULATING. SO WHILE THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION IN THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF IT IN THE COSTS THAT ARE BEING DETERMINED, WE HAVE PLENTY OF WORK TO DO. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING PACKED AGENDAS. ONE OF THE THINGS WERE GOING TO REQUEST THAT HER UPCOMING MEETING IS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MEETING SO WE CAN CHURN OUT MORE PRODUCT AND ADDRESS MORE CONCERNS.

>>MAYOR UDSON: I THINK HER CITIZENS WILL BE APPRECIATIVE THAT WE HAVE A PARKING COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON THIS ALL THE TIME. I KNOW THAT I AM BECAUSE IT'S A THORNY

ISSUE. >>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: I AGREE. I LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE -- I WAS NOT ON AT THE TIME BUT SHORTLY AFTER I WAS ABLE TO READ THE DIALOGUE AND THE INFORMATION THAT WAS THERE AND IT IS GOOD. YOU ARE RIGHT. WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE CURVE WE HAVE TO START THE FORWARD THINKING MOVEMENT OF WHAT WERE GOING TO DO. FOLKS DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PAID PARKING BUT IT MIGHT BE A REALITY.

>> MAY BE. TOUGH ISSUE TO TACKLE. PARKING GARAGE, THINK IT WAS A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM NOT REPORTED WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE IT SHOWS HOW MANY SPACES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE PARKING GARAGE SO THAT YOU DON'T DRIVE TO THE TOP AND TURN AROUND AND DRIVE BACK DOWN AND THERE'S NO SPACES. WE'VE GOT SOME ACTIVITY GENERATORS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE PARK READ DOMINIC PARKING GARAGE COMPLEX. THAT'LL CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF WHOSE PARKING IN THE PARKING GARAGE AT CITY HALL. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO HELP THAT SYSTEM, FOR THE PUBLIC. AT THE END OF THE DAY IS FOR THE PUBLIC. FOLKS THAT ARE COMING DOWNTOWN WHETHER THEY ARE SERVING OR ARE COMING DOWNTOWN TO JOY THE AMENITIES, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. GO TO THE COURTS, I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS OVER THE LAST THREE AND HALF YEARS. AND I LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION HERE. IT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INVOLVE THE MULTIPLE PARTIES, THE CLERK OF COURT, THE COURT ADMINISTRATION AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BECAUSE THEY MAKE PERIODIC ANNOUNCEMENTS.

EMERALD'S ARE TIED BACK TO THE JUDGE IS RIGHT, ESPECIALLY COURT ADMINISTRATION AND CLERK OF COURT. JUST TO BE SOME KIND OF A DIALOGUE IN SYSTEM IN PLACE IN THE PLACARD VERY GOOD IDEA. BUT, WHEN YOU REALLY DIAL DOWN IN SOME NUMBERS -- I'M JUST GONNA THROW OUT NUMBERS, WHEN YOU START TALKING TO THESE FOLKS, THE MAXIM JUROR SUMMONS DAYS ABOUT 240 ON THE MAX -- THE BIGGEST DAY OF THE DOCKET THE JUDGES ARE SAYING I NEED THIS BECAUSE OF GONNA GET THESE JURIES IN PLACE. THAT COMES FROM THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CLERK OF COURTS WHEN THEY COORDINATE THAT. THEY USE A NUMBER OF ABOUT SIX TIMES OF WHAT THEY NEED. THAT'S JUST A GIVEN FACT. THAT CHANGES FROM WEEK TO WEEK. THOSE ARE GOOD NUMBERS. THE COUNTIES -- EXCUSE ME. THE COUNTIES PARKING GARAGE HAS 187 SPACES.

SEVEN OF THOSE ARE HANDICAPPED SPACES. 14 OF THAT REMAINING MEMBER OR RESERVED FOR OTHER ENTITIES RELATED TO THE COURT SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY. SEE HAVE 165+ PARKING SPACES THEY ARE.

REMEMBER THAT 240 NUMBER AM TALKING ABOUT. THERE ARE ABOUT 70PARKING SPACES THEY ARE.

REMEMBER THAT 240 NUMBER AM TALKING ABOUT. THERE ARE ABOUT P72 HOUR PARKING SPACES WHICH I SECOND STREET ATLANTIC INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IN ZERO ON BOSTON BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BOSTON HOUSE AND SOME OTHER ANCILLARY FACILITIES ARE THERE IN PRIVATE LAND OWNERSHIP. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF PARKING RIGHT THERE. THEN YOU HAVE 465 IN THE CITY'S PARKING GARAGE WHICH IS ABOUT A THREE OR FOUR MINUTE WALK AWAY. SO AS WE START DIGESTING ALL OF THIS LET THE DATA TAKE US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, THAT'S WARM GOING TO. AND IF YOU'RE READY TO TAKE THAT ON, PLEASE DO. I THINK IT'S AN AWESOME TASK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. THERE ARE LOADING ZONES WITHIN THOSE AREAS THAT I REFERENCED.

THERE'S SOME BUSINESS INTERESTS WITHIN THAT AREA MAY BE ALONG THE ATLANTIC AVENUE AND A DIFFERENT THING THEY WERE DOING RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST DRAWING OUT THE NUMBERS. IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION BUT THE DATA WILL TAKE US THERE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REPORT IF WE WERE TO UP THE REPORT AND RENEW IT FOR TODAY'S, YOU KNOW, TODAY'S

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DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT -- IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENTS, THAT'S PERFECT. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

>> I THINK THEY TIE AND ULTIMATELY FOR THE HEALTH OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND INFLOW AND OUTFLOW TO DOWNTOWN AND THE OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU DRIVING IT WITH THE COURTHOUSE THAT I WOULD ADVOCATE OF EATING THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER TO THE DOWNTOWN AND THEIR PRESENCE IS AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION OF DOWNTOWN IN FORT PIERCE. SIMILARLY, THE PARKING DEMANDS INTEREST IN THE CITY MARINA. THEY'VE NEVER REALLY BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. WELL DURING KOVIC DOWNTURN YOU GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT REMAINED MARINA PARKING WAS REQUIRED. WE ARE MEETING WITH THE MANAGER TO SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BECAUSE AS IMPORTANT AS THAT IS THE IS, THAT LONG-TERM PARKING IS A NECESSITY FOR THE FULL OPERATION OF THAT FACILITY.

AND IT BEING SUCH A WONDERFUL PART OF DOWNTOWN, IT'S KEELEY IMPORTANT AND SIMILAR TO THE COURTHOUSE. WE WANT TO GET THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO THE TABLE AND SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS AND DESIRES ARE AS FAR AS LONG-TERM GOALS. AND THE OTHER THING, TOO, THE BIG ONE IS THE HD KING SITE. WHEN THAT COMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND STARTS OCCUPYING ALL THAT LAND THAT IS OPEN PARKING NOW, THERE WILL BE A MASSIVE CONSTRICTION OF PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN QUARTER AND IT'S GOING TO DRIVE IN MORE FREQUENCY OF VEHICLES, CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WORKER VEHICLES ETC. AND ULTIMATELY, WITH ITS RULE OUT FOR TENANCY. IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER MAJOR DRIVER THAT WE WANT TO SEE INCORPORATED INTO THIS REPORT FOR THE NEW VERSION OF THIS REPORT. I THINK THAT WILL BE CRITICAL AND THAT WILL BRIDGE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND DOWNTOWN INTO THE HD KING RIGHT INTO THE EDGARTOWN AREA AND ALL THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE EXPANDING WITH ALL THE ACTIVITY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE KING SITE. IT'S ALL INTEGRATED AND CONNECTED. IT'S GOING TO BE -- I SERVE ON A FEW BOARDS AND COMMITTEES. I BELIEVE THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL OF THE OTHER THAT I SERVE ON. AS ODD IS THAT CELL BECAUSE IT BRINGS IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH FROM A LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE. PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT, I HAVE A BUSINESS LOCATED IN THE DISTRICT THAT BUSINESS SUFFERS FROM PARKING, CLEARLY. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT AREA HAS NOT TAKEN OFF AND HOPEFULLY THIS COMMITTEE CAN COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO SAY WE THINK THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA. GIVE IT A TRY. COMING BACK TO THE REPORT I GET IT. WE WILL SIT BACK AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS TO DO IN THE

MEANTIME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WANT TO WIND THIS UP TO SAY AM HAPPY THAT YOU THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMITTEE AND I'M

GLAD YOU'RE THERE (LAUGHING). >> MANOR MAYOR?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >> I KNOW THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT DOWNTOWN, ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND US ALL THAT THAT COURTHOUSE IS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE FOR DOWNTOWN. WE SHOULD BE DOING EVERYTHING THAT'S POSSIBLE IN OUR MEANS AND WAYS OF KEEPING THAT COURTHOUSE -- AND I'M NOT SAYING KEEP THEM HAPPY, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME? WHAT'S NECESSARY NEEDED, THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO BE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE, THAT COURTHOUSE. BECAUSE OF THAT COURTHOUSE UP AND LEAVES DOWNTOWN, WE WOULD BE IN A PEOPLE. AND I DON'T CARE WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, TURN IT INTO A LIVING QUARTERS AND ALL THAT, IT DOESN'T MATTER. RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT FORT PIERCE NEEDS. AND WE'VE BEEN -- WE BEEN UNDER UTILIZING IT AND WE BEEN BUILDING UP AROUND IT, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE. AND I THINK THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE. BUT IT'S TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER BUILDING ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE, ADDING TO THE COUNTY PARKING GARAGE OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT ON THE BACK BURNER.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SESSIONS?

>>COMMISSIONER SESSIONS: AS FAR AS -- I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER

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ALEXANDER WAS SAYING AND YOU TOUCHED SPACES WITH THE TWO, BUT I'LL TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER THAN COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER SAID DON'T MAKE HIM HAPPY AND CAN TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, PLEASE MAKE HIM HAPPY. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ECONOMIC ENGINE TO DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. AND JUST THE DROP OF A PEN, THE HEAD CIRCUIT JUDGE CAN SEND THEM DOWN TO PORT ST. LUCIE JUST LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST HOW MUCH POWER HE ASKED. SO PLEASE, INCLUDE THEM BILL HARDEMAN, HEAD OF SECURITY, HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH HOW WE ARE HANDLING THE PARKING OF HIS VEHICLES, HIS SECURITY VEHICLES AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE I HEAR THE COMPLAINTS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE HEARING THEM OR NOT. BUT IT ANY RATE, WE NEED TO TRY TO CIRCUMVENT ANY POTENTIAL PROBLEM TO THE POINT OF THEM EVEN CONSIDERING. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION THE PAST ABOUT DOING THAT. SO WE DON'T NEED THAT.

SO PLEASE, GIVE THEM PRIORITY. ALSO, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ONLY VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY, MAYBE THREE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR THE MOST PART IN A LARGE PERCENTAGE INCLUDE THEM TO AS WELL. BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE RELYING ON TO MAKE SURE THAT BUSINESS STAYS DOWNTOWN SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BOOST OUR ECONOMICS UP. BECAUSE RIGHT NW, ESPECIALLY, WITH THIS DILEMMA THAT WE ARE HAVING, THINGS ARE REAL SLOW, BUT REST ASSURED, PORTS AND PEOPLE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS IN COURT, THAT IS GOING TO BE STARTING TO PICK UP AND BE MORE CONSISTENT. THAT IS SOMETHING.

THAT IS GUARANTEED. SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THEM A LOT MORE AND GET THEIR INPUT, MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD BECAUSE AGAIN, JUST THE DROP OF A PIECE OF INK ON THE PAPER AND THERE

WILL BE AT PORT ST. LUCIE. >> THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT -- BE ENCOURAGED PER OWNER TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE WILL FOSTER THAT AND SET UP A TIME THAT WE CAN MEET WITH HIM AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AS BEST WE CAN, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION OF COURSE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT MAY BE FOUND TO BE WARRANTED. I DO AGREE.

THERE ARE OTHER PARTNERS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE DIALOGUE FORTUNATELY THE PARKING COMMITTEE APPEARS TO BE MADE UP OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND BUSINESS EXPERIENCES SOME OF THEM DOWNTOWN AND OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN SUMMONS SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. WE'VE A GOOD REPRESENTATION FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. YOU ARE CORRECT.

AS THESE FOLKS ARE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING A STAKE IN THIS, WE WANT THEM TO BE PART OF THE DIALOGUE FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. WE BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN FOR A LONG TIME. I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING NEEDS VERY WELL BUT EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN SET OF CONCERNS.

WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM ON IN THE DIALOGUE.

>> THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

JOHNSON? >> I WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT -- AND COMING UP WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF DID REACH OUT AND SPEAK WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CLERK OF COURT BECAUSE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT STAFF DISCUSSED WITH THE STAFF THEY ARE AND THIS WAS THE QUICKEST, EASIEST FIX TO THE SITUATION TO ADDRESS THE PARKING AROUND THAT AREA. SO THE GROUNDWORK HAS BEEN LAID FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COURTHOUSE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT THERE PARKING NEEDS ARE HIGH-PRIORITY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS REMEMBER OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM. THE LIBRARY IS A BIG ECONOMIC DRIVER ALSO. SO WHATEVER -- THERE IS SOME INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS I THINK -- MAKE -- AREAS. THAT HE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT OF THE STAFF WERE LEGAL TO GET INVOLVED WITH THAT INTERLOCAL SAYS AND WHAT IT MEANS BECAUSE LIBRARIES HAVE A -- LIBRARIES ARE A BIG PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. A HUGE PART. WE ARE LUCKY AND FORTUNATE TO HAVE ONE IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND BEING FORWARD THINKING AND PROVIDING THE FUTURE IS THE GREENWAYS ENTRAILS. IT WAS SLATED, AS WE KNOW TO GO DOWN SECOND STREET,

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OUR MAIN STREET IN FORT PIERCE. THAT'LL CHANGE THE DYNAMICS. THERE'S A LOT OF DATA, RESEARCH IN SCIENCE THAT PROVES THAT WHEN YOU CHANGE WHAT OUR STREET LOOKS LIKE TODAY INTO THIS GREENWAY WITH CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIANS AND MULTIMODAL MICRO MOBILITY VEHICLES WHICH WHAT WE CALL SCOOTERS, THERE IS TECHNOLOGY THAT IS CHANGING AND THAT WILL CHANGE MAIN STREET AND SECOND STREET IN FORT PIERCE BECAUSE IT SLATED TO GO DOWN THAT PATH. THUS THE GREENWAYS ENTRAILS IS THE MAIN OF THE KEY WEST. WE WANT TO BE AN ACTIVE PART OF WE ARE. AND WERE ENGAGED IN THAT ALL THE TIME. THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE TO START THINKING AHEAD AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER MENTION COURT SECURITY. THERE IS SOME DIALOGUE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE. THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT THAT PARK ON SECOND STREET, WE NEED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WHATEVER DEAL CAN BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE TWO, COURT SECURITY IS IMPORTANT.

IT TIES BACK INTO MANY LAYERS OF SECURITY WITHIN OUR OWN DOWNTOWN IF THAT'S NEEDED THEN LET'S FORMALIZE THE AGREEMENT. RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT AGREED-UPON. IT'S TO OUR PARKING WE SHOULD

COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THEM. >> THIS IS A TEMPORARY RELIEF VALVE AND ONTO THE NEXT IT'S IMPORTANT IN THE COMMUNITY IS TRYING TO BE REACTIVE TO WHAT IS GOING ON INSTANTLY IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE CORDONED OFF -- CORDONED OFF IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO PUT IT WOULD PUT SOME PLEASANT SETUPS FOR DINING SUCH WHICH IS AN EXCITING THING FOR DOWNTOWN -- IN A SETTLEMENT WHICH CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ON OUR AGENDA FOR FRIDAY IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF POSITIVES THAT WILL COME FROM THAT AS WELL. WERE GOING TO TRY TO BE AS REACTIVE AS WE CAN. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF THINGS TO DO WHILE THIS REPORT IS BEING MANIFESTED. WILL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MET AMIR. >>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: MASS, WE CONSIDERED, THE PARKING COMMITTEE EVER CONSIDERED VALET PARKING FOR DOWNTOWN UTILIZING OUR PARKING GARAGE AS A HUB OF PARKING FOR VALET? ANY TYPE OF, YOU KNOW AFTER HOURS, VALET FOR THE RESTAURANT FOOD SLUDGE? HAVE WE CONSIDERED ANY OF THAT FOR DOWNTOWN.

>> IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS TO PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND LA WAS ONE OF THEM. COMMISSIONER PERRONE SPOKE IT TWO MEETINGS AGO RELATIVE TO A SERVICE THAT WAS AT LEAST CHATTING ABOUT PUTTING A FREE SERVICE INTO DOWNTOWN IN SOME CAPACITY. I WOULD SAY YES THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE REVIEWED SOON AND LOOKED AT TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS MAY BE AVAILABLE THERE AS WELL. EVERYTHING IS OPEN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MEMS. >> MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, THE PARKING COMMITTEE DID DISCUSS THIS ONE WAS A WORKING GROUP, WHEN IT WAS IN A BOARD COMMITTEE. IT WAS A WORKING GROUP AND WE MOVED FORWARD AS THE CITY DEVELOPING AND OR FP. WE DID NOT RECEIVE RESPONSES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO WE ARE STILL OPEN TO A PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE.

>> IN ADDITION I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COMMISSION. WE HAVE THIS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. I DO BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE FORMALIZED. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE A PROPOSAL AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE EXISTING PARKING STUDY. AND ALSO, I BELIEVE OUR TO OUR PARKING IS CAPTURED WITHIN THE CITY ORDINANCE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. BUT IF IT IS, THAT WOULD REQUIRE US MOVING FORWARD WITH HEARINGS AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO AMEND OUR RESTRICTED PARKING, I GUESS, ORDINANCE. SO IF YOU WILL GIVE THAT CONSENSUS TODAY OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL CONCERNS, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.

>> SOME FOR THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS PENDING THE COST OF THE SECOND ONE AND WILL WE HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY DIFFERENT

OPINION? >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL DO THE

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RESEARCH. WILL GIVE THE INFORMATION TOGETHER AND WE WILL FORMALIZE IT AND BRING ALL OF THE BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ÃBUT THE WORK ON THE PARKING GARAGE, SO WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE WRAPPED UP SO WE HAVE MORE ACCESS TO PARKING? DO YOU KNOW?

>> I DO NOT KNOW THAT THE EXACT DATE, I CAN FOLLOW UP BUT I BELIEVE IT WILL BE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING GARAGE WE HAVE WORK ON THE THIRD FLOOR THAT IS BEING DONE NOW WITH OUR PERMITTING HUB AND THE SECOND FLOOR THERE'S CONSTRUCTION IN THE SUNRISE CENTER FOR THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING IN THE SUNRISE CENTER AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A VISITOR/TOURISM CENTER ON THE FIRST FLOOR SO THAT MAY BE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION AND MAY BE WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A CONFERENCE/ VENUE MEETING ROOM ON THE TOP FLOOR WITH THE BEAUTIFUL PANORAMIC VIEWS THAT IT HAS. I BELIEVE IT CAN BE CONSTRUCTION AND IF A PARKING GARAGE AREA WILL BE CONTINUING FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. (LAUGHING) BUT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN -- I'M SORRY. THAT DOES NOT MEAN PARKING WILL BE RESTRICTED.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU PARKING COMMITTEE VERY MUCH. I

APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK. >> THANK YOU.

[c. Beach Parking Discussion]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE BEACH PARKING DISCUSSION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALREADY. MR. MEMS?

>>MR. MIMMS: MADAME MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION WE BRING BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW MR. MIKE REELS. IN ADDITION TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THE ELDER CONCENTRATED AREA FOLLOWING THE STUDY WAS THE BEACH. NOW THE DOWNTOWN AREA PROVED TO HAVE AN AREA BUT THE BEACH AREA DID NOT PROVE TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THE ACTIVITIES THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP THAT'S BEING DONE BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS YOU TALK ABOUT THE PARKING AREA THAT WAS REQUIRED

IN ST. LUCIE COURT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MIKE REALS?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD MORNING. I'M HAVING A -- OF WORKING ON IT -- LITTLE DIFFICULTY WITH

THE COMPUTER. >> DO YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR

SCREEN DOWN THERE, MIKE? >> NO. WE HAD EARLIER.

>> IT MAY HAVE GONE DOES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: HOW DOES THAT

HAPPEN? >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT HAPPENS MORE

THAN ONCE. >> THEY GO TO SLEEP.

>> BOBBY TO THE RESCUE, ALWAYS.

>> WAS UP AT 8:45 AM. >> YES, IT WAS.

>> IN THE EFFORT OF TIME, WHILE BOBBY IS TRYING TO GET THE SCREEN ON WE CAN PROCEED WITH OUR DISCUSSION, FOLLOW-UP ON PARKING ISSUES AND SPECIFICALLY ON THE BEACH. DURING THE DOWN TURN NOW WITH COVID, WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A REPRIEVE IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA BUT ONE THING THAT WE HAVE NOTICED IS THAT OUR PUBLIC AMENITIES HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE. THE ISLAND, AS WE HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS HAS HAD ISSUES WITH PARKING AND AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES AND ALSO IMPROPER PARKING OF SPACES THAT WE DO HAVE. THE PURPOSE OF MY DISCUSSION TODAY IS TO FOCUS ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS AT 301 S. OCEAN. THE CITY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY BACK IN JANUARY 2017. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE ASSUMED THE LEASE ON THE LITTLE CONVENIENCE STORE THAT IS THERE NOW. THAT LEASE IS SET TO EXPIRE AUGUST 5 OF THIS YEAR.

SO ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE CAME BEFORE YOU WITH AN IDEA AND A CONCEPT FOR SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THAT PARCEL. OUR RECOMMENDATION HAD COME BEFORE, I BELIEVE THE PARKING COMMITTEE FROM THE SOUTH BEACH ALLIANCE THAT WE LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THE BUILDING. FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN A HUGE PARTICIPATION IN PARKING IN THAT AREA. ON THE WEEKEND IT'S HIS MORE DURING THE WEEK BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE ARE NOT

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SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THE PARCEL. MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT A SIGN OUT THERE? I DON'T KNOW.

>> BIGGER THAN THE ONE YOU ALREADY HAVE. SO ANYWAY, WE LOOKED INTO THAT POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THE BUILDING AND CREATING ADDITIONAL SPOTS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE LEASE AWARE? THE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT BUSINESS,

ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS? >> MS. RUTH IS VERY AWARE THAT THE LEASE IS COMING UP. SHE'S AWARE THAT THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HAS COME UP ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DEMOLITION OF THAT BUILDING. MS. RUTH WOULD SIGN A LEASE TODAY TO STAY FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS IF SHE COULD. SHE DOES UNDERSTAND THAT HER TERM IS UP AND SHE'S WILLING TO STAY THERE ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS AS LONG AS WERE WILLING TO ALLOW HER TO.

I'LL COME BACK UP OVER HERE. >> IT'S NOT COMING UP FOR

WHATEVER REASON. >> MADAME MAYOR?

>> MIKE, IS THAT A CITY-OWNED BUSINESS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT.

>> YES IT IS. THE F PRA PURCHASE THE PROPERTY -- 17.

>> THERE'S NO TAXES BEING PAID ANYWAY.

>> CORRECT. ANYWAY, THE ILLUSTRATION IS IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE, OR CITY ENGINEER TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE REMOVED THE BUILDING TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING. IF WE STAY WITH THE CONFIGURATION THAT WE HAVE IN A TEMPORARY ASPECT, WE COULD GAIN 14 SPOTS. IF WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THAT PARCEL AND CREATE A PAVED PARKING SPACE FOR THAT AREA, WE WOULD LOSE FOR SPOTS. WE WOULD HAVE FOUR LESS SPOTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. IN OUR CURRENT CONFIGURATION WE CAN PARK APPROXIMATELY 44 SPOTS. DUE TO OUR CITY CODE, WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OUR PARKING ON THAT PARCEL WOULD BE REDUCED FROM 44 SPOTS TO APPROXIMATELY 40. I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL TODAY BECAUSE 1, THE LEASE IS EXPIRING IN AUGUST AND TO GET SOME CONSENSUS OF WHERE WE WISH TO GO FROM HERE. DO WE WANT TO STAY WITH OUR CURRENT ROLE AND ALLOW OUR TENANT TO GO ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH TYPE LEASE? DO WE WANT TO PUT OUT AN RFP TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO HAVE THE BUILDING DEMOLISHED? FROM OUR EXPERIENCE OF BUILDING DEMOLITIONS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THAT WOULD COST US AT LEAST $50,000 OR MORE IF WE WOULD FIND HER'S IS BEST IS THE COST OF REMOVAL WILL GO UP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: HOW OLD IS IT DO YOU KNOW?

>> THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1970. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE. THE FOLKS ON THE ISLAND LOVE MS. RUTH AND LOVE THE STORE. I'VE BEEN ON -- AND THERE WERE NUMEROUS OCCASIONS SHE HAS A VERY FOLLOWING THAT COMES IN AND SEE HER FREQUENTLY.

>> AND DID YOU SAY THE PEOPLE ARE NOT USING IT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S

FREE PARKING IS THAT RIGHT? >> IT'S BEING UTILIZED, JUST NOT HEAVILY. COME THE WEEKEND WHEN ACTIVITIES INCREASE, WE SEE MORE PARTICIPATION IN THE PARKING LOT. IT JUST HASN'T BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY USED BY THE PUBLIC SINCE WE PUT IT IN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU HAVE 44 NOW? IS THAT RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU WERE TO TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING AND MAKE A PARKING LOT, YOU WOULD HAVE LESS?

>> IF YOU TORE DOWN THE BUILDING IN THE PARKING LOT CONFIGURATION, WE WOULD GO UP TO 60. WE WOULD GAIN 14 SPOTS BY REMOVING THE BUILDING. IF WE IMPROVED IT TO A CONSTRUCTION OF A PAVED A LOT, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE A REDUCTION IN AVAILABLE PARKING.

>> MAYOR, -- (INDISCERNIBLE). >> YOU ARE CORRECT THERE IS A BEACH ACCESS AT ST. LUCIE COURT.

>> OKAY. SO I DON'T SEE WITH THE FANCY DANCE HAS TO BE DONE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK AND WALK.

THEY'RE WALKING IN THE SAND ANYWAY, SO I DON'T SEE THE WASTING OF THE MONEY. THE

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MONEY COULD BE UTILIZED ELSEWHERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE?

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BALANCE DECISIONS THAT ARE ALWAYS GOOD TO BE SOME PAIN NO MATTER WHAT. AS A RIGHT FOOD, WILL I LOVE THIS PLACE. IT'S BECAUSE I FORGET THINGS ALL THE TIME AT THE USUAL GROCERY STORES OR NEED SOMETHING BECAUSE SOMEBODY POPS OVER AND YOU CAN GO TO THE STORE IMMEDIATELY. IT'S FRIENDLY.

IT'S THERE IT'S CONVENIENT. BUT THAT IS A PERSONAL THING. I WAS PART OF THE INITIATIVE TO BUY THIS PROPERTY. MR. MIMBS AND I GOT A CALLING, MYSTERIOUSLY, AT A SOUTH BEACH ASSOCIATION MEETING THAT WE NEEDED TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL PARKING. AND WE BOTH ADHERE TO OUR CALLING. IT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST MONEY THAT I GOT TO SPEND AS A COMMISSIONER. WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT SOMETHING. I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE HAD THIS BEAUTIFUL PARKING FACILITY, THIS LOT, THAT IS STRATEGICALLY PLACED -- IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS THAT THE CITY MADE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE HIDE IT WITH THE BUILDING SITTING OUT FRONT EVEN WHEN PUBLIC WORKS GOES AND MAKES THE BIGGEST FREE PARKING SIGN. I THINK THE WHOLE BUILDING IS A SIGN FOR FREE PARKING. STILL DON'T SEE IT. SO THERE IS THE DILEMMA IS THAT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A BUILDING UPFRONT, WE HIDE THE PARKING SPOT. YOU DON'T DRIVE BY THERE AND SAY OH MY GOSH, THERE'S A PARKING SPOT. IT IS HIDDEN SOMEWHERE. IF THEY DO TAKE THE BUILDING OUT IN IDENTIFYING IT IS ONLY, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE THE WHOLE THING IS A PUBLIC PARKING FACILITY, I THINK IS GOING TO GET USED TO WHOLE LOT. I REALLY DO. AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE ARE GOING TO CUT OFF THE ACCESS FROM HERNANDO. I THINK THAT'S BEEN A BIG PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, THE PARKING BACK THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. SO THE HISTORY OF IT ALL IN THE FUNCTION OF IT ALL, I WOULD SAY LEAVE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, BUT TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD, HOW THE BEACH AND ITSELF -- WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. DO YOU WAIT UNTIL THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE -- OR DO YOU GET AHEAD OF IT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN 2017 WE MADE THE PURCHASE. I FEEL BAD FOR MS. RUTH. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL OF US OUT THERE. I LIKE TO THINK THAT I HAVE MY USUAL THINGS THAT I DO AND THIS IS ONE OF THE USUAL THINGS THAT I DO, BUT TAKING A LOOK AT A BROADER SCOPE, I THINK THIS WOULD CREATE MORE SOLUTIONS

THAT WOULD PROBLEMS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

JOHNSON? >>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: COMMISSIONER, I WENT TO THE SAME EMOTIONS. I WENT THROUGH ALL THE STEPS TO GET TO AN IDEA IN CONCLUSION. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IF WE WERE TO CREATE PAID PARKING BUT THE WHEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT IF YOU PAVED THE PARKING WE HAVE TO START TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE FACILITIES IN ADA AND HARDEN SURFACES THAT REDUCE -- TO 40.

>> ACCORDING TO MR. ANDREWS, YES. WE WOULD SEE A REDUCTION IN PARKING.

>> SO WITH OUR ALLOWANCES FOR THE INTERMITTENT USE AS WE HAVE IT SET UP, IT'S KIND OF THAT GRASSY, STABILIZED TYPE PARKING SITUATION. ANOTHER GO FROM 4040 60 I THINK IS WHAT THE MAYOR WAS ASKING ABOUT ALSO. IT'S A TOUGH ONE. AT THE SAME TIME HERE MY DILEMMA IS WE HAVE A TENANT IN THE BUILDING THAT WE OWN AND IS A REVENUE SOURCE. A LOT, MAYBE IT'S HELPING YOU WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND THE UPKEEP AND STASHING AWAY FOR THE RAINY DAY SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. SO THA'S THE OTHER THOUGHT. AND IT'S IN A LOCATION, 1970, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ELEVATION IS COMPARED TO A WOODY BUT JUST FROM OBSERVATION, IS ALMOST EQUAL. SO IT WOULDN'T MEET TODAY'S BUILDING CODE STANDARDS IS OUR SALVATION HURRICANE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE HIGH VELOCITY WINDS EVEN COMES TO THAT SIDE OF THE STREET AT THAT LOCATION. I KNOW THEY MOVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERNANDO SOUTH AND ABOUT SOME CONDITIONAL USE SCENARIOS IN THE HIGH VELOCITY ZONE DIDN'T MOVE AND THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN THAT ZONE. AS AN

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OWNER OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. WHAT IS OUR POTENTIAL FOR LOSS.

WHAT IS A POTENTIAL BECAUSE WHEN YOU OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN THERE'S A HURRICANE COMING. SO IT'S TOUGH. SO, I'M KIND OF OF THE SAME OPINION IS COMMISSIONER PERRONE GO THROUGH ALL THE REITERATIONS AND YOU LOOK AT THE OPTIONS, IT IS HIDDEN. I PARKED THERE TO WALK AND I DO IT ON PURPOSE TO SEE WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES AND WHOSE PARKING THERE AND HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE. WEEKENDS OF THE BUSIEST. THE ECONOMY IS GOOD. WE HAVE CHANGES HAPPENING ON THE INLET SIDE, THE RESIDENTS THAT WAS NEXT TO MANATEE ISLAND WAS TORN DOWN NOW AND THERE'S NEW OWNERS. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY OR POTENTIALLY COMING, POTENTIALLY. WE HAVE A PARKING PAID AT THE CORNER AT THE ROUNDABOUT. I DON'T HOW THAT'S DOING I'VE NEVER.

>> I WOULD EITHER. >> I HAVEN'T HEARD A COMPLAINT.

>> I HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD ABOUT IT. SO I THINK THE 60 SPACE OPTION IS PROBABLY THE WAY TO

GO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING IS TO WE RENEW THE LEASE.

>> NO. NO QUESTION OF RENEWING THE LEASE AT ALL. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS TO WE START EXPLORING REMOVING THIS BUILDING FROM THE SITE AND IF THAT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION WE CAN PUT OUT AN RFP AND GET COSTS TOGETHER AND I CAN COME BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL. I JUST WANTED TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THE LEASE IS EXPIRING, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE PRIOR TO REMOVING THE BUILDING TO OPEN UP THAT SPOT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MANY SPOTS WE COULD ACHIEVE THEIR AND GET DIRECTION ON WHERE YOU WOULD

LIKE TO GO. >> THE OPTION IS TO LET HER STAY IN THEIR MONTH-TO-MONTH WHILE WE ARE DECIDING.

>> YES. SHE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A 60 TO 90 DAY WINDOW THAT IF WE DECIDE TO TAKE IT DOWN THAT WE LET HER KNOW HER MOVING FORWARD AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THAT'S HER REQUEST BECAUSE SHE NEEDS TO ORDER INVENTORY AND HAVE THINGS ON SITE AND IF SHE'S GOING TO LEAVE SHE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL THE INVENTORY.

>> THAT WOULD BE A COURTEOUS AND FAIR THING TO DO.

>> I DON'T WANT THE DISCUSSION TO AND WITHOUT A THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT THIS, -- SO, IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE JUST A GRAVEL PARKING LOT. I DIDN'T IMAGINE THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DID AT THE SAME TIME. WHAT I SEE THERE IS MAYBE A MULTIUSE FACILITY WITH A PARKING STRUCTURE INCORPORATED INTO IT. AND IF THAT IS SO, THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS IS WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THE FACT THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY USED AREA RIGHT HERE. SO LET'S SAY THE PARKING LOT GETS USED ON A REGULAR BASIS. IT SHOWS WE NEED MORE PARKING. WE CAN GO VERTICAL WITH THAT. AT THAT TIME WE MAY TAKE ON A PUBLIC PARTNER WITH THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK SOMEDAY AND HAVE A LOOK BACK THERE AGAIN THAT CAN DO WHAT WE DID BEFORE. AND THAT WAS THE WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA. IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST GONNA BE A 60 OR 40 SPACE PARKING LOT THAT'S LEVELED TO THE GROUND. I LOOK AT IT EVEN NOW WHEN I GO BY I SEE A VERTICAL WITH A LOT OF USES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I'M GLAD SHE REQUEST AT LEAST A 60 TO 90 DAY. WE ARE IN JUNE NOW.

GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN A PUBLIC MEETING SETTING WITH OUR CRA. AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'M THINKING MORE HUNDRED 80 DAYS. TALK ABOUT WHEN WE MEET WITH THE CRA AS A BOARD AND THEN JULY THROUGH DECEMBER OF SIX MONTHS THAT'S HUNDRED 80 DAYS.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALONG THOSE OPTIONS. IT'LL PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY. THE PUBLIC WILL WAY IN AND ONE FEEDBACK AND DIALOGUE WITH US ABOUT THAT SO I'M THINKING EXTENDING IT OUT

EVEN FURTHER. >> MATTER MAYOR?

>> WHAT I DON'T MIND AS WE -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD OUR FIGURES OF WHAT'S GONNA COST WHAT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, WE UTILIZED HER MONEY FROM THE F PRA, WE JUST HAD GOTTEN IT IN AND CORONA -- THE FIRST TENANT

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AND THAT WAS THE BEST BECAUSE HE WAS -- HE WAS MAKING AN OBSERVATION ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON ON THE BEACH. AND THAT PROPERTY BECAME AVAILABLE. SO THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. BUT NOW WE TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING FORWARD. I FORGOT HOW MUCH WE PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR, 99,000 MORE HUNDRED AND 99,000 WHAT WAS IT.

>> WE PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY FOR 799,000 OKAY. SAY THAT AGAIN? 799,000 SERVE.

>> AND THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION COMES NOW. HE SAID 790,000 WE DON'T HAVE A TOTAL AND WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT? THAT'S ALL A MASKING IS BRING FORTH WHAT YOU SAY IS GOING TO COST TO DO NOT BEFORE I CAN MAKE A DECISION. OTHER THAN THAT, I'D LEAVE IT AS IS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF THE BEACH KNOW WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE KNOW WHERE IT'S LOCATED. SO WERE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO PEOPLE IS COMING FROM SOUTH MIAMI OR WHATEVER? AGAIN I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO COMPLETE THIS

PROJECT. >> SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE ARE IN FAVOR OF MOVING IN GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE A COST TO DEMOLISH AND BUILD A PARKING LOT AND HOW WE WOULD DO THAT IS THAT CORRECT? EVERYBODY OKAY WITH

THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. THANK

YOU. ALREADY. >> NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.

[d. Discussion of permitting of special events in the wake of the Coronavirus pandemic.]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF PERMITTING OF SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE WAKE OF CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC. MIKE I JUST RECEIVED WORD THAT YOU NEED A THUMB DRIVE TO GET YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> MR. MIMBS. >> THANK YOU. TODAY, WE WISH TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF RESUMING OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, PARK RESERVATIONS, AND FACILITY RENTAL RESERVATIONS. MIKE REALS IS AT THE TABLE BECAUSE THIS IS DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC COURSE AND HEADS UP THE DIVISION OF REGIONAL SERVICES WHICH PROVIDES THIS AVENUE FOR OUR PUBLIC. AT THIS TIME I WILL ALLOW YOU TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE AND MR. REAL'S IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EVENT STRUCTURE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DON'T GO TOO FAR AWAY (LAUGHING).

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO ONE OF THE THINGS WERE TALKING ABOUT IS PERMITTING SPECIAL EVENTS AND I KNOW THE REST OF THE COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AND I GOT PROPOSALS FROM THE FORT PIERCE JAZZ SOCIETY IN THE FARMERS MARKET ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO THEIR HOMES AND HOW THEY WOULD PROPOSE FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING. I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS IF WE ARE READY TO ALLOW SPECIL EVENTS DOWN ESPECIALLY AT MARINA SQUARE IN WHERE THE JAZZ SOCIETY WAS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WHETHER THAT IS GOING TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE FRIDAY FAST STORE THE OTHER VENUES THAT THE CITY HAD. WE HAVE -- WHAT ARE THE OTHER VENUES THAT ARE POPULAR VENUES THAT PEOPLE USE FOR PERMITTING IN FORT PIERCE?

>> WE HAVE WEEKLY, MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, BIANNUAL AND ANNUAL -- WE HAVE EVENTS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT THE FOLKS ARE READY TO GO AND GET BACK. WE HAVE JAZZ ON THE CREEK. WE HAVE THE MARKETS THAT WE HAVE EVERY SATURDAY. WE HAVE FRIDAY FAST. THERE ARE NUMEROUS EVENTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE -- A LOT OF THESE EVENTS, FOLKS A LIVELIHOOD REALIZED ON THE MONEY THAT THEY MAKE SELLING THEIR WARES AT THESE EVENTS.

AND I THINK THAT TODAY IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DISCUSS WHETHER WE WISH TO START BRINGING THEM BACK. I BELIEVE IF WE DO IT WORKWE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT. I KNOW THE STATE IS ALLOWING PLANS TO BE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL TO ALLOWING GATHERING.

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>> AND SO THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER FOR LARGE GATHERING IS IN EFFECT UNTIL JUNE 30 OR UNTIL JULY 7 -- IS ONE OF THOSE TWO DATES. MR. SWEENEY, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THAT.

>> MATTER MAYOR, YES. SO THE GOVERNOR HAS ISSUED SEVERAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS BUT I BELIEVE THE ONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST PERTINENT ONE IS THE ONE THAT ALLOWS GATHERINGS UP TO 50 PEOPLE BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT HAS EITHER A DEFINED NUMBER OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. THE EVENTS THAT MR. REAL'S IS DISCUSSING ALL WOULD INCLUDE MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE. I'M PULLING IT UP NOW.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT ORDER ACTUALLY GOES UNTIL JULY 8 I BELIEVE IS THE DATE.

NO IN BETWEEN, THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT'S BEEN ISSUED THAT HAS THE JUNE 30 DEADLINE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INTERNAL CONFUSION BUT I'M PULLING THAT UP NOW AS WE SPEAK BUT IN EITHER EVENT, I FEEL THAT REALISTICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF EITHER OF THOSE THINGS. SO, I JUST DON'T FORESEE A FRIDAY FAST WITH LESS THAN 50 PEOPLE OR FARMERS MARKET OR QUITE FRANKLY ANY EVENT THAT MR. RIOS IS TALKING ABOUT. I'LL DEFER TO HIM OR NOT ÃBUT WE ARE POPULAR. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT WERE TRYING TO DO IS HELP THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. AND WHILE THE JAZZ SOCIETY MARKET AND THE FARMERS MARKET, BOTH ARE NONPROFIT, THEIR VENDORS HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES. WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR DOWNTOWN IS OPENING UP DOWNTOWN FOR OPEN-AIR EXPANSION FOR OUR RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL AND SO, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING THAT AND DOING SOMETHING AT MARINA SQUARE FOR THE FARMERS MARKET IN THE JUST SOCIETY ESPECIALLY IT'S TRUE. THEY CANNOT CONTROL THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE IN MARINA SQUARE. THAT

IS TRUE. >> MATTER MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. >> YES, SIR. MY CONCERN IS JUST GIVING MR. REALS THE OKAY TO GO FORTH AND BE PROACTIVE AND BE READY BE JOHNNY ON THE SPOT, WHEN THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER DO CHANGE AND SAY WE CAN COME WAS OPENING UP OUR DOWNTOWN AND OPENING UP OUR BEACHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WANT MR. REAL IS NOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I WANT HIM TO BE PROACTIVE AND BE READY, HAVE THAT PROJECT ALREADY IN

PROGRESS. >> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BY ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS?

>> MATTER MAYOR. >> MALE MACK.

>> GO BACK TO MR. SWEENEY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE PLANS I SAW FOR THE FARMERS MARKET, THAT'S PART OF THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER WHERE IF YOU SUBMIT THE PLAN AND YOU CAN GET APPROVAL YOU CREATE THE VENUES SO THAT THERE IS SEPARATION AND SPACING IS AT THE SAME EXECUTIVE ORDER? I WAS LOOKING THROUGH EMAILS.

>> WELL I THINK THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, MR. SWEENEY CLARIFID IF I'M WRONG, IS THE GOVERNOR WAS GOING TO ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS TO PROCEED IF THEY SUBMITTED A PLAN, BUT THE GOVERNOR WOULD NOT HAVE TO APPROVE THIS PLAN.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I

THOUGHT YOU ARE ASKING. >> BUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS SPECIFIC TO INCLUDE WHAT YOU JUST SAID?

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> MATTER MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.

>> THE MOST RECENT QUARTER WAS 20 Ã139 AND THAT WAS ISSUED ON THE FIFTH. IT IS FOUR PAGES LONG AND IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE. THERE IS AN EXPIRATION DATE REFERENCED WITHIN THE ORDER OF JUNE 30, 2020 BUT THAT IS IN REFERENCE TO ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT ALLOWS GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE MEETING IN QUORUM VIRTUALLY. AS FAR AS I SEE THE ORDER THERE'S NOT ANOTHER REFERENCE TO AN EXTENSION OR DEADLINE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. IT WAS TALKING ABOUT PHASE 2. IMPORTANTLY IT EXTENDS UNDER ORDERS BUT THE UNDERLYING ISSUE I THINK THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IT ALLOWS RESTAURANTS, BARS AND OTHER

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PLACES WITH OPEN AREA THAT HAD BEEN ALLOW OPEN MOVED TO 50 PERCENT IT INCLUDES ENTERTAINMENT VENUES AND WILL REFER TO IT SAYS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MOVIE THEATERS, CONCERT HOUSES, AUDITORIUM, BOWLING ALLEYS ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE UP TO 50 PERCENT. I'M MOVING BACK BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT PRIOR EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOWED THEMED PARK SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED TO BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A VERY SPECIFIC PLAN TO THE GOVERNOR THROUGH EITHER THE MAYOR OF A COUNTY OR THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEAD OF THE COUNTY IF THEY DID NOT HAVE A MAYOR ACTING IS SUCH UP TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THEN THAT WOULD BE BLESSED. SIMILAR THERE WAS A VACATION RENTAL BEGAN. THAT WAS ALLOWED TO BE LIFTED COUNTY BY COUNTY AS LONG AS THE COUNTY -- WHICH ST. LUCIE DIDN'T HAS DONE A PLAN THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD WORK WITH THOSE. SO, I GUESS, TO BE THROUGH ALL OF THAT, TO CUT TO THE POINT OF AN OPEN-AIR FESTIVAL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT FITS WITHIN ANY OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN A PERFECTLY SQUARE WAY. ARGUABLY IT'S LIKE A THEMED PARK THAT IS OPEN IN MOST PLACES, RIGHT -- DISNEY WORLD UNIVERSAL, MOST THEME PARKS ARE OPEN AND YOU GOING TO BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT IS NOT SIMILAR TO SOMETHING LIKE A BOWLING ALLEY, A MOVIE THEATER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS AN OUTDOOR FESTIVAL. SO IT'S A MISHMASH.

WHAT I'M SEEING IF THERE'S OPEN THERE'S NOT BEEN A RESTRICTION WHICH BEEN THERE SO MUCH ENCOURAGEMENT FOR ALFRESCO TYPE DINING. ALWAYS AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF SOCIALLY MAINTAINING SIX FEET DISTANCE AND LIMITING CAPACITY TO NO MORE THAN 50.

>> IF I COULD BUILD ON THAT. HE HAD THE KEYWORD. THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING TO GO WITH THE CONVERSATION. THE GOVERNOR HAS GIVEN US SPECIFICS THAT HE CAN COVER EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, THE WAY I SEE IT, TO BREAK IT DOWN YOU HAVE THE OPEN AIR ENVIRONMENT, YOU CREATE YOUR SOCIAL ISTANCING BETWEEN VENDORS BOOTHS OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE AND THAT IF YOU WERE TO WALK DOWN SECOND STREET GREENAWAY, WHATEVER, TO GET TO A RESTAURANT AND YOU WALK INTO ANOTHER ATMOSPHERE OF A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT IN THE YEAR GUIDED BY ANOTHER SET OF LAWS, REGULATIONS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND ARE DOING IT FOR A GOOD REASON. HONESTLY, I'M READY TO OPEN IT UP WITH THE SUBMITTAL OF A PLAN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPTION. IF WE SEE THAT IT'S OPEN-AIR. IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN GOING TO A PARK WHO'S TO SAY THAT 100 PEOPLE COULD NOT GATHER AT A PARK? IT TALKS ABOUT THAT BUT IT'S AN OPEN-AIR PARKING IT'S A PUBLIC FACILITY. IN THIS CASE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC AREAS SUCH AS MARINA SQUARE. I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SUBMITTAL OF A PLAN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE WANTING TO CONTINUE WITH THE EVENTS, THE EMPLOYER SUBMIT A PLAN AND THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTION WITH NICK AND MR. -- MR. REALS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE ONE UNFAMILIAR WITH HER THE JAZZ SOCIETY AND THE FARMERS MARKET.

IF YOU WERE VENDORS ARE CUSTOMERS IF -- BECAUSE THEY WERE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE USED TO OPERATING THERE. AT LEAST WITH THE FARMERS MARKET MAY BE THE JAZZ MARKET THE PARTY BEEN ADJUSTED TOO VAGUE IN THE NEW LOCATION WITH ALL THE VENDORS WEARING MASKS.

THEY REQUIRE THE PEOPLE IN THE CARS TO WEAR MASKS. THEY ARE ALREADY USED TO THOSE REGIMENTS. AND SO, I WOULD BE VERY MUCH TOWARD EASING BACK INTO THIS AND WITH ALL THE PRECAUTIONS THE CDC PRECAUTIONS.

>> MATTER MAYOR? >> YES.

>> I HEAR YOU SAYING ABOUT MASKS. ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT, THAT THE PEOPLE ATTENDING THESE VENUES TO WEAR MASKS?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO FAR I THINK THE FARMERS MARKET HAS REQUIRED THE VENDORS TO WEAR A MASK AND THEY ASKED THE CUSTOMERS TO WEAR MASKS, TOO. SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF GONE ON IN SOCIETY ANYWAY, PEOPLE HAVE THE OPTION OF WEARING MASKS OR NOT WEARING

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MASKS WHEN YOU ARE A CUSTOMER. >> OKAY. THE QUESTION IS, BEING IN THE PUBLIC, THEY SUGGEST THAT THEY HAVE A MASK ON.

>> COMMISSIONER PERRONE. >> AND THANK YOU FOR THIS. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ADOPTED BEST PRACTICES THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW ALSO -- IF YOU BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE NEWS LATELY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GROCERY STORES AND PLACES LIKE THAT AND THE RATING THEM TO THEIR BEST PRACTICES. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW THAT THIS IS BEING DONE AND IS NOT DUE TO IF YOU WANT. IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU ARE PART OF THIS ASSOCIATION, YOU'RE PART OF THIS EVENT, THAT YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DO THIS -- YOU WILL BE INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DO BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DEPENDS ON US TO COMMUNICATE THAT. AND THAT WE WILL PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR FOLKS. WE ARE ALL IN THIS. BUT I DO BELIEVE -- AND I JUST GOT THIS FROM THE JAZZ MARKET. IT DOES HAVE A BEST PRACTICES REQUIREMENT. I

THINK THIS. >> YOU FROM THE FARMERS MARKET.

>> FARMERS MARKET SHOULD HAVE IT AND THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT THERE IS A UNIFORM BEST PRACTICE THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE FOR ANYTHING THAT IS DONE IN THAT AREA. AND WE ADOPT THAT. IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, TOO, BECAUSE I'M JUST HOPING THAT WE JUST DON'T GO BACKWARDS IN OUR EFFORTS. AND I WANT TO GO FORWARD. IT'S AMAZING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN CHARGING FORWARD SO HARD FOR SO MANY YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BRAKES GET PUT ON. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, YOU KNOW? IT'S LIKE GETTING YOUR MULTIMODAL CHARGED UP AND THEN LOCKING THE GATE ON THEM. I'M READY TO GO. THE GUY ALREADY SHOT THE GUN AND I MET THE STARTING LINE. I WANT TO BE DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW? WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE AND IT'S RESPECTFUL TO THOSE FOLKS, THE VENDORS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE ALSO. AGAIN, WE ARE BACK TO THE BALANCE. BUT TO HAVE A UNIFORM CODE OF BEST PRACTICES THAT WE ADOPT IN THAT WE CAN ASSURE THAT EVERYBODY IS DOING TO KEEP THE

COMMUNITY SAFE. >> MATTER MAYOR?

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> ONE COMMENT ON THE BEST PRACTICES. ABSOLUTELY. FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING THE PATRONS WE CANNOT REQUIRE THEM TO WEAR MASKS. SHOULD WE SUGGEST? YES.

>> MEAN THEY CAN EVEN REQUIRE IT.

>> YOU GET INTO CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES TO GOING TO THE COURTHOUSE, THEY BATTLED THAT ISSUE AT THE COURTHOUSE DO WE REQUIRE IT? DO WE HANDED OUT TO WE SAY PLEASE WEAR THE MASK

THAT'S WAS GOING ON. >> I THINK THE MARKET IS CONSIDERING THAT IS OFFERING A MASK. PLEASE WEAR THE MASK.

>> THAT'S WHAT IT GOES DOWN TO. THE VENDORS, THAT'S DIFFERENT. THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THE FRIDAY BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THEIR SEPARATION. WE WANT TO HEAR BRING HAND SANITIZER AND WHERE YOUR MASK AT ALL TIMES. YOU CAN PUSH THAT AGENDA A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE VENDORS ARE COMING THERE FOR A BUSINESS REASON, BUT THE PUBLIC ITSELF, SLIPPERY SLOPE.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS DID YOU WANT TO ASK I'LL SAY THIS MUCH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE EXCITED THAT WE WANT TO START BACK PLAYING BALL AGAIN AND IF THERE'S EVERY PERSON COMMISSIONER PERRONE OF THE DOES NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME, IT'S ME. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, I'D RATHER BE STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUT THERE WATCHING THE GAME THAT COULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO THEM BECOMING ILL. AND WHILE WE ARE TRYING TO RESUME HIS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE BACK TO NORMAL, LET US NOT FORGET THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT, AS FAR AS THIS PANDEMIC IS CONCERNED, IT'S NOT GETTING BETTER IN TERMS OF CASES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IS STILL RISING AND IN SOME INSTANCES, LEVELS OUT BUT IT'S NOT GETTING BETTER. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE OPENING OUR DOORS, THERE'S NO MISCONCEPTION ABOUT YOUR SAFETY

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AND WELL-BEING. AND ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO JEOPARDIZE HIS HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, DON'T JEOPARDIZE IT AT THE SAKE OF YOUR NEIGHBOR.

THAT YOUR BUSINESS IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. AND I HEAR YOU, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ABOUT WE ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO REQUIRE CUSTOMERS TO WEAR MASKS. YOU MAY WANT TO GET A LEGAL OPINION ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME DISABILITIES, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE. AND AS A MATTER FACT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTROVERSY BECAUSE THE VENDORS ARE FIGHTING WITH THE CUSTOMERS SO MUCH TO THE POINT THAT SOMEBODY WAS ASSAULTED. SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER WAS -- I GUESS, ALLUDE TO OPEN HE SPOKE EARLIER, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH NOT ONLY THE VENDORS, BUT IF THESE INDIVIDUALS WANT TO PARTICIPATE AS THEY CROSS THE JURISDICTION OF SOMETHING THAT IS UP UNDER MY WATCH THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THAT IS THIS ACTIVITY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REQUIRING THAT THEY WERE MASK FOR THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED. SO, ONE THING ABOUT THESE PLANS, THEY HAVE RESTRICTIONS AND IS GOING, GOING TO BE INCUMBENT UPON US TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT A SMOKESCREEN, IT'S ENFORCEMENT, NOTED DISCRETION BUT STRICT ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AGAIN, WE PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE CITIZENS AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FROM -- TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS, I THINK ENFORCEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO AS WE GET BACK INTO TRYING TO GET BACK TO NORMAL, THERE'S STILL THE BE RESTRICTIONS. AND WITH THOSE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, FROM MY STANDPOINT, THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. THAT'S WHY IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US AS WE MAKE THESE RULES, THAT WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THESE RULES. SO, WE HAVE THIS, THE DEVIL WE WALK OUT THERE WE SEE EVERY BODY NOT IN ABEYANCE WITH THIS, WE'RE DEFEATING THE WHOLE PURPOSE. SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT AS WE TRY TO GET BACK TO PLAYING BALL AGAIN, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S WEARING HELMETS. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO PROTECT THEM. IF THERE IS A CLUSTER OR NUMBER THAT COMES FROM ACTIVITY OUT THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT US. YOU JUST HEARD THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER. WHAT THEY DO IS THEY BACKTRACK AND THEY FIND WHERE THESE CLUSTERS ARE COMING FROM. IF THEY FIND TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME FROM OUR ACTIVITY AND WERE GOING TO BE ALL OVER THE PAPER.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN UNDER MY WATCH. I TAKE THIS REAL SERIOUS AND I HOPE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, THAT WE ENFORCE THE RULES AND DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO STOP ANY POTENTIAL PROBLEM OF THIS VIRUS GROWING BY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD'VE STOPPED. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: AND MR. REALS, I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD ADDRESS THIS TO YOU OR MR. MIMBS, BUT IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT JULY 4? I HAVE HEARD THAT THE FESTIVAL IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR MR. MIMBS OR YOU (LAUGHING).

>> YES. 4 JULY -- TYPICALLY WE HAVE THE STARS OF THE ST. LUCIE FESTIVAL. WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME THAT IS A FESTIVAL THAT ATTRACTS 10 TO 12,000 PEOPLE IF NOT MORE TO ONE CONCENTRATED AREA. WILL WE PLAN TO DO IS HAVE FIREWORKS FOR FOLKS TO DRIVE UP, SIT ON THE HELL OUT OF THEIR CAR AND ENJOY AND GO BACK HOME. THAT IS THE GAME PLAN AT THIS TIME.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY AT A PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING BUT NOTHING HAS CHANGED. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A PLAN OR ANY TYPE BUT, I GUESS, CONCEPT FROM MAIN STREET FOR PEERS. AS SOON AS I RECEIVE THAT, I WILL REVIEW IT AND I'LL GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN THAT REQUEST FOR THIS EVENT. ALSO, WHILE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EVENTS WE ARE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE FESTIVALS THAT ATTRACT THOUSANDS TO OUR DOWNTOWN WHICH ARE TREMENDOUS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT ALSO WE HAVE VENUES LIKE THE

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RIVERWALK CENTER LIKE THE GARDEN CENTER. LIKE -- WILL NOT OLD CITY HALL THAT'S NOT OUR VENUE BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL VENUES IN PARK RESERVATIONS. ARE YOU ALSO AMENABLE TO MOVING

TO THAT DIRECTION AS WELL? >> MANNA MAYOR, MR. MIMBS, WE TRIED TO BEGIN A BEGINNING. I KNOW WE CLOSE OUR BEACHES. ARE WE INCLUSIVE -- INCLUDING OUR BEACHES ABOUT REOPENING THESE BEACHES ARE WE JUST FOR 4 JULY? WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES NOW? SINCE WE ARE DISCUSSING IT. ARE WE INCLUDING THE COVE IN FORT

PIERCE BEACH? >> THE BEACHES ALONG THE ATLANTIC OCEAN ARE CONTROLLED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THOSE BEACHES ARE OPEN. IN ADDITION WE HAVE TWO PARKS WITH BEACHES THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY THE CITY FORT PIERCE. THOSE BEACHES ARE OPEN AS WELL. YOU MENTIONED THE COVE.

>> EXCUSE ME. THEY ARE OPEN? I THOUGHT WE CLOSE THE BEACHES.

>> YES, SIR. AT A PREVIOUS MEETING YOU ALL DID AGREE TO CLOSE CAUSEWAY AND JC PARK BEACHES, BUT THOSE BEACHES WERE ONLY CLOSED FOR A TEMPORARY PERIOD OF TIME. IN THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY THOSE BEACHES WERE OPEN.

>> I JUST WANT TO GET IT STRAIGHT SO THE PUBLIC CAN NO BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEEKING SOMEWHERE TO GO. AND WE WANT TO KEEP THEM IN OUR OWN BACKYARD, BUT AGAIN, I LOOK AT THE MASS OF PEOPLE IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS AND I'M JUST GOING AT THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I THINK ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS THAT IF WE ARE PERMITTING PAVILIONS I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE ASKED -- AND HOW MUCH -- HOW MUCH ADMINISTRATIVE WORK IS THIS FOR EVERYBODY WANTS TO USE A CITY FACILITY AND APPLY FOR PERMANENT FOR THE STAFF TO REVIEW THEIR PROPOSAL PLAN?

>> I LET MR. REALS SPEAK TO THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAY YOU HAVE CERTAIN RULES ANYWAY BUT THIS HAS BEEN ADDED ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.

>> I'M SURE WE ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR EVENTS AND STAFF TIME TO REVIEW AND APPROVE ISN'T MY MAIN CONCERN. MY MAIN CONCERN IS WHAT I HEAR ABOUT ENSURING THAT THE FOLKS THAT HOLD EVENTS ARE AT HEARING TO THE GUIDELINES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE FOR THE BEST PRACTICES. THAT'S MORE OF A CHALLENGE THAN GETTING THE PLANS AND REVIEWING THEM AND OFFERING APPROVAL OR NOT. WHETHER MR. MIMBS GRANTS BE DISCRETION TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE RV WANTS TO RECEIVE THEM, THAT COULD BE A FACTOR, BUT IF IT'S ONLY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THE APPROVAL PROCESS WILL NOT TAKE A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE TIME.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY INPUT IN TERMS OF HOW WE GO FORWARD?

>> I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND OPENED UP TO APPLICATIONS AND RESERVING FACILITIES.

THERE'S ONLY A FEW PAVILIONS I'M AWARE OF THAT CAN BE RESERVED, THAT ARE LARGE, GREATER THAN 50, MAYBE ONE OR TWO A JC PARK. DOES IT HAVE A CAPACITY MARK ON THE PAVILION? DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE?

>> OUT THE TOP OF MY HEAD I DON'T KNOW JUST SAY UP TO. IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO APPLY FOR THAT -- THE PAVILION IS GREATER THAN THAT SIDE STATES UP TO 50 AND THIS IS THE MAGIC NUMBER.

HOW DO YOU REGULATE THAT? OH MY GOODNESS. THAT'S TOUGH, BUT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO PUT IT ON THE APPLICATION THEY SIGNED IT -- JUST LIKE THEY SIGNED AND RENTED THEY SAY A PROMISE I'M NOT GOING TO DEFACE IT OR CAUSE ISSUE.

>> AND WHAT THEY DO PROMISE IS WHAT WE SAY ON THIS PERMIT IS TRUE -- THEY DO PROMISE THAT.

>> IF THERE'S AN ISSUE LATER ON THAT THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR RECOURSE IF IT'S NEEDED BUT

REGULATION WILL BE TOUGH. >> MANNA MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS IN PLACE ALREADY. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL SAY FOR 4 JULY? HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT? WHERE'S THE FAIRNESS GONNA BE?

>> RIGHT. >> WAS GOING TO GET THE CHOICE.

THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY CAN GO THERE.

>> RIGHT. >> SO AGAIN, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A ROUND ROBIN OR WE CAN HAVE PICK NAMES OUT OF THE BARREL OR WHAT?

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>> HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? MR. REALS, DON'T WE HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR ME TO RENT THE PAVILION TODAY?

>> YES, SIR. WE DO. AND PAVILION RENTALS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FIRST-COME, FIRST SERVE.

THE LARGER EVENTS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE MARKETS IN JAZZ ON THE CREEK THEY TYPICALLY WILL GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE THEIR EVENTS AND APPLY FOR THEM IN ADVANCE.

>> I THINK THE MARKET IS PAID UP FOR A FEW MONTHS SO WHAT IS HAPPENED IS WE HAVE HAD PERMIT APPLICATIONS IN AND WE HAVE CEASED ALLOWING THE EVENTS TO TAKE PLACE. AND FACILITY RENTALS ALSO RIVERWALK LAST I CHECKED BEFORE COVID WAS RENTED EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY UNTIL

AUGUST 2021. >> THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF THEY'RE ALREADY RESERVED, TWO 2021, HOW WE JUST KICKED THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUT MARIANNE RESERVATION? YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM THEY HAVE BEEN PAID RESERVATION. HOW ARE WE DOING THAT OR HOW DO WE ANSWER TO THAT?

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE HAVE A RESERVATION ON THE BOOKS WE HONOR THE RESERVATION. ANY FACILITIES OR PAVILIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT DO NOT HAVE A RESERVATION TODAY, WE TAKE FIRST-COME FIRST-SERVED.

>> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A CLARITY SO THERE WILL BE NO FUSS ABOUT THAT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS A COMMISSION OKAY WITH THIS? MR. PERRONE?

>> 'SSTAFF COME UP WITH A NEW APPLICATION WITH DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS?

>> COMMISSIONER PERRONE AND, AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE A NEW APPLICATION WITH COVID REQUIREMENTS IN IT. WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK TO OTHERS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING OR LOOKING TO COME BACK ON BOARD WITH THE EVENTS AND THINGS IKE THAT AND WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN A TIMELY FASHION. HOW QUICKLY ARE WE LOOKING TO DO THIS? IS THIS SOMETHING WERE LOOKING TO DO THIS WEEKEND OR FOURTH OF JULY? WHAT TIMEFRAME?

>> TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT APPLICATION AND KNOW WOULD HAVE THE CONFIDENCE OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC ALSO. IT GOES BACK TO ALL THE BEST PRACTICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SOMEBODY SIGNS THAT APPLICATION AND THEY ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THEY WILL GUARANTEE THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL DO. IT GIVES US A REASONABLE FEELING THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE BEING USED IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE. AND THAT THEY ARE THE POLICE, AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAYS. THE POLICING OF THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. AND WE ARE NOT GOOD AT POLICING. WE HAVE A POLICE FORCE THAT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB. WE ARE TERRIBLE AT IT. I KNOW WE TRY HARD EXCEPT FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT SO PEGGY, PLEASE -- WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE PACKAGE AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT I HAD WILL I CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH IT I'M HAPPY THAT WE HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS IN FRONT OF US THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT SPEAK TO THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND THAT'S HOW I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD IS TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I'M SURE THE REST OF

THE COMMISSION WOULD CONCUR. >> SO WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 15 AND ON JUNE 15 WILL HAVE MR. REALS PROVIDE A LAYOUT AND PLAN AN OUTLINE FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VENUES AS TO HOW WE FOLLOW CDC AND THE GOVERNOR'S GUIDELINES.

REGARDING SOCIAL DISTANCING CROWD CONTROL.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ADDED AS AN ATTACHMENT OR AN EXCERPT ATTACHED TO THE CURRENT EXISTING APPLICATION PROCESS AND MAYBE THEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THE ORDERS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ALONG WITH CDC RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN IT'S 1/2 A PAGE IT SAID ATTACHED AN APPLICATION THAT SAYS HERE'S THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS OR GUIDELINES.

>> IS THAT JUNE 15 DATE GOOD FOR YOU?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT'S GOOD. WE CAN DECIDE THAT AND YOU CAN TELL US WHERE YOU ARE IN THIS WHOLE PLAN, RIGHT? YOU GOT THE DIRECTION YOU NEED?

>> ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[e. Annual performance review - Nicholas Mimms, City Manager]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW NICHOLAS MIMS, CITY

MANAGER. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALREADY. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO START COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF. BUT NECK, I'LL JUST SAY I

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APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK AND EFFORTS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN EVERY DAY. I KNOW THERE ARE LONG HOURS EVERY DAY AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE CITY AND ADDRESSING ISSUES LIKE THIS PANDEMIC. YOU'VE BEEN ON TOP OF THE MATTERS AT HAND AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS IN COORDINATION WITH OUR AGENCIES WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING TREASURE COAST COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IT DOES IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE THE IS- EFFORTS THERE. YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THINGS AS FAR AS THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IN LOOKING AT IDEAS OF YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM SUCCESSION PLANNING, EVEN HAVE A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU'RE OUT OF THE OFFICE AND I KNOW YOU DO APPOINT FOLKS WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS TO DO THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT ANNECY AVENUE YOU'VE TAKEN BUT I THINK LONG-TERM, I THINK THERE IS A LONG-TERM NEED FOR A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER BECAUSE YOUR WORKLOAD IS LARGE. FTES IN THE BUDGET ARE GOING TO RESTRAIN US. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT, WHEN THE CITY IS BEING LOOKED UPON AS I'VE GOT TO GET TO FORT PIERCE. I GOT TO OPEN THAT BUSINESS IN FORT PIERCE. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE WORKLOAD EVERY SINGLE DAY AND YOU DO YOUR BEST TO DO IT. YOU TRY AND USE SPACE OUT THE WORKLOAD AND YOU SHARE IT AND YOU GIVE IT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS THEY PROBABLY LOVE WHEN YOU COME KNOCKING AT THE DOOR SAYING OUT GOT A SPECIAL PROJECT THEY DON'T. I KNOW. BUT WITH THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AT HAND AND WERE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND OUR CRA ALL THE TIME IN THE GROWTH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. YOU AND I HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. WE CHALLENGE OURSELVES FOR THE FTES IN THE BUDGET. THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF AND AS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS GROWING OR JUST BEING LOOKED AT IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES IS PUBLIC UPDATES FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS. AND THOSE ARE JUST MINOR THINGS. MINOR DETAILS OF INFORMATION LIKE OUR SURTAX WE GET THAT INFORMATION. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FIVE OF US AS WE GET PHONE CALLS FROM THE COMMUNITY JUST LIKE YOU DO. AND SOMETIMES I'M LIKE I'M NOT SURE THAT TOPIC IS A HOT TOPIC AT THE TIME, BUT WE HAVE TO DO LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK GET OUT THERE AND GET THE INFORMATION AND GET IT BACK. THAT'S A GOOD PROCESS. I'M LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE MORE OUT IN FRONT OF IT. AND THAT'S ALL. IT'S A SIMPLE THING. IT'S A COUPLE TWEAKS MAY BE MODIFICATIONS AND WHAT OUR CURRENT STANDARD IS. THE OTHER THING I HAVEN'T BROUGHT UP WE ARE IN 2020. COVID-19 BROUGHT ON NEW IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AND I'D LIKE US TO BE FORWARD THINKING AND HOW WE BECOME MORE TECHNOLOGY-BASED AND PAPERLESS BASED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH FACILITY COSTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, THE BUDGETS IMPACTED. AND IT MIGHT BE MOBILE WORK STATEMENTS IT MIGHT BE LAPTOPS AND HERE AGAIN, IT'S COST BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE, THE FLIPSIDE IS WE ARE SAVING LONG-TERM BECAUSE THE FACILITIES OR PAPER OR PRINTER LEASING ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR LITTLE TINY BUDGET. AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT. I'M JUST ENCOURAGING, I'M NOT ASKING, JUST ENCOURAGING THE THINKING OF THAT NATURE. BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS.

YOU HAVE A NOT SO EASY JOB. YOU WORK LONG HOURS AND YOU ARE DOING WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

DEDICATION AS USUAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT? I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO. SO I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND I THINK YOU HELPED US FOCUS AND HELP THE STAFF FOCUS ON WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF THE COVID-19 RESPONSE. WE'VE DONE THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE'VE HAD AND I APPRECIATE YOUR IMMOBILIZING EVERYBODY TO DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOWS A GREAT DEAL OF NIMBLENESS TO BE ABLE TO PIVOT FROM ONE, YOU KNOW, SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES TO ANOTHER. AND I APPRECIATE THAT AGILITY. AND I THINK THE COMMUNICATIONS FROM

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YOUR OFFICE ARE EXCELLENT AND I HAVE SAID BEFORE, I THINK THAT FORT PIERCE IS LUCKY TO HAVE YOU AS A CITY MANAGER BECAUSE YOUR HOMEGROWN. YOU KNOW THE CITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND IS GOOD FOR US, AS THE CITY. IT'S NOT SO GOOD FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU GET PUSHED AND PULLED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. AND I THINK THIS IS THE WAY -- YOU TREAT ALL MEMBERS EQUALLY AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU CAN WORK HARD. IT'S IMPORTANT.

I'M SURE YOUR FAMILY WOULD LIKE THAT TOO. I ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU AND I ENJOY THE RESPONSIVENESS THAT YOU PROVIDE AND YOUR GENUINE EARNESTNESS TO TRY TO PLEASE. WHEN YOU CAN'T PLEASE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT, SO YOU ALWAYS GET INTO THE PROBLEM WHATEVER IT IS IN CHINA FIND A WAY TO SAY YES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SAY NO. AND I THINK YOU GROW IN THIS JOB.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS -- I KNOW YOU ARE WELL THOUGHT OF AROUND THE COUNTY FROM THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS BECAUSE I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. AND SO THAT'S BETTER THAN HEARING THE OPPOSITE. I APPRECIATE YOU AND I ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU. COMMISSIONER PARADA.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: OKAY. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUNG MAN, NICHOLAS MIMS, HE'S A HARD WORKER. AND HE HAS A WONDERFUL STAFF FOR HIM. THEY DON'T TRY TO BACKSTAB HIM.

THEY COULD DO IT IN EVERY TURN AND EVERY DAY, BUT MR. MIMBS, HE STILL STANDING. AND I TELL YOU, I'M PROUD TO HAVE THEM AS THE CITY MANAGER AND I CAN TELL THEM TO HIS FACE, I DO FEEL LIKE A LOW MAN ON THE TOTEM POLE AND I DON'T FEEL TO BE THE LOW END ON NOBODY'S TOTEM POLE.

I FEEL LIKE BEING A NOT ON ALONG SO YOU ARE PROPPED DOWN ALONG IF YOU WANT TO LET ME BE THAT NOT. BUT, I SAY THAT TO JUST BE FACETIOUS, TO GET A LITTLE LAUGHTER IN THEIR BECAUSE SOME SERIOUS ABOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I LOVE MY CITY. AND WHEN I DON'T RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT MY CITY, I UNDERSTAND WAS THE SHOOTING, KILLING THE NIGHT BEFORE LAST OR LAST NIGHT. I HEARD NOTHING OF IT. AND THUS THE THING I'M GETTING TIRED OF NOT COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I'M COMPLAINING TO MY CITY MANAGER, THAT YOU KNOW, UNLIKE THE FIVE OR SIX-YEAR-OLD KID AROUND HERE TO DUCK AND DODGE THESE BULLETS EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK. AND YOU KNOW, NOTHING IS SAID AND DONE TO THE COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE COMMISSIONER IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND WE DON'T KNOW WAS GOING ON IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE, BUT I'M NOT COMPLAINING, AGAIN, I WANT TO SUPPORT MY CITY MANAGER. ONLY GIVE HIM ALL THE AMMUNITION THAT HE NEEDS TO GO FORWARD AND I WANT HIM TO ASSIST ME AND WHAT I NEED TO DO TO DO MY DUTIES. I'M REALLY NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS YOUNG MAN BEING OVERCOMPENSATED BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S NOT BEING OVERCOMPENSATED. HE SHOULD BE WELL ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE NOW, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT TIME AND A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT GIVEN HIM KUDOS TO HIS STAFF AND TO OUR PARTNERS THE CITY FORT PIERCE LIKE THE ALLEGHENY MINISTRIES. WE DON'T RECOGNIZE THEM AND THEY DO SO MUCH FOR THIS CITY. AND FROM DAY ONE THAT THEY COME TO THE CITY, WE -- I DON'T THINK WE'VE GIVEN THEM ANY KIND OF PROCLAMATIONS OR ANY KIND OF RECOGNITION OR ANY KIND OF KUDOS, BUT ON EVERY TURN, THEY ARE THEY ARE IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS. WE JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. AND I PUT THAT IN MIMS HANDS BECAUSE THOSE ARE HIS PARTNERS THAT MAKE HIM LOOK

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BETTER AND THAT MAKE HIS STAFF LOOK BETTER AND THAT MEANS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE LOOK BETTER. BECAUSE THE NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO IF YOU CALL THE NAME FORT PIERCE THAT PEOPLE MAY SPIT ON YOU BECAUSE THEY DO WANT TO HEAR NOTHING ABOUT FORT PIERCE BUT NOW, YOU SAY FORT PIERCE THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY I'M READY TO MOVE TO FORT PIERCE. SO AGAIN, SOMETHING HAS BEEN DONE AND SOMETHING HAS BEEN CHANGED AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS. WE ARE A BETTER CITY, WE ARE BETTER PREPARED YOU KNOW, AND WE DO -- WE ARE SMART AND I WANT TO LEAVE IT AT

THAT. MR. MIMBS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: YES.

I'VE SAID IT EVERY MEETING NOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT THE CITY FORT PIERCE IS A LEADER IN OUR REGION. AND WITH THAT BEING A LEADER AND OUT THERE, SHOWING THE WAY AND NOT ONLY JUST THE COVID-19 ISSUE, BUT ANIMAL CONTROL, A LOT OF THE WAY THAT WE PERCEIVE OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES, THERE'S A WHOLE LONG LIST THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES SIT THERE AND SAY WILL HERE'S WHAT FORT PIERCE DOES. AND THAT SPEAKS TO OUR ADMINISTRATION. THEY ARE GOOD THINKERS. THEY COME UP WITH A GOOD IDEA. WE GET CREDIT FOR MOST OF THE TIME, BUT BASICALLY A LOT OF THE STUFF COMES THAT STAFF LEVEL. WERE SMART ENOUGH TO SAY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA PROMOTED. THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR LEADERSHIP. IN OUR LEADERSHIP ABOUT CITY HALL. THAT'S THE TEST RIGHT THERE. IF THERE WAS A MANUAL HOW TO BECOME A CITY MANAGER, WHO WOULD'VE BURNED OUT THE WINDOW ALREADY BECAUSE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO US IN THE LAST FIVE, SIX, SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND FOR THE LIFERS THAT HAVE LIVED IN FORT PIERCE FOR 40, 50, 60, 70 OR 80 YEARS MOST OF THEM WOULD SAY FORT PIERCE HAS TURNED THE BIG CORNER IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS. IT'S A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THAN WE WERE BEFORE. AND IT'S BECAUSE NOT ONLY OF ADMINISTRATION IN YOUR GOVERNMENT, IT'S BECAUSE FOLKS HAVE ADOPTED A LOT OF THE NEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE. NEW IDEAS. HERE THE TERM OUT-OF-THE-BOX, WE WENT OUT OF THE BOX. IF THERE'S AN AREA OUTSIDE THE OUTSIDE OF A BOX, WE WENT THERE, TOO. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO TAKE CHANCES. AND THAT SPEAKS LOUDLY TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR STAFF. SO WITH THAT, I'M EXCITED. I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT ALL. IF I -- I HAVE TO ALWAYS HAVE SOME CRITICISM. JUST BECAUSE IT'S ME. IT IS THE SAME CRITICISM AS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT MY CRITICISMS -- THE ISSUE IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER EVERY YEAR AND IT'S PART OF THE COMMUNICATION. A LOT OF WHAT COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER -- AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, WE ARE OUT FRONT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE NEED TO KNOW. WE ALL GET CALLS ALL THE TIME THIS IS WAS HAPPENING WITH THIS OR THAT ? FORTUNATELY, I READ THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT EVERY MONTH AND THAT GIVES ME 90 PERCENT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MY COMMUNITY. SO I WILL GIVE NIK CREDIT FOR THAT. WE GET ASKED A LOT OF TIMES FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT HELP WITH THINGS AND MOST OF THE TIME WE HANDLE IT ON OUR OWN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS BUSY DOING A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE NEED HELP. IN THOSE EMAILS GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND FOR THE MOST PART, I WOULD SAY LATELY, NICK, YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB BUT THERE'S TIMES WHEN HE GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND WE CAN'T BE RESPONSIVE TO THOSE FOLKS THAT NEED HELP. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT. AND A LOT OF TIMES THE CITY MANAGER HAS TO DEFER TO CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS LIKE ENGINEERING OR BUILDING OR WHATEVER ELSE, AND I JUST THINK THAT IN THAT INTERIM, YOU NEED TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION ALIVE THREE OR FOUR DAYS DOWNLIGHTS SAYING I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BACK BUT I'M STILL WORKING ON IT TYPE THING. IT JUST HELPS US DO OUR JOB BETTER AND TO BE ABLE TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR US. THIS IS THE WAY CITY COMMUNICATES TO THE CITIZENS. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER EVERY YEAR, NICK. SO KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND HOPEFULLY I DO NOT HAVE TO BRING IT UP AGAIN NEXT

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YEAR BUT I PROBABLY WILL ANYWAY. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH YOU, MR. MIMBS. I ENJOY OUR MEETINGS. THEY GET -- THERE DELIGHTFUL, THEY SOMETIMES GET SPIRITED AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK WE ALL HAVE BENEFITED FROM YOUR FORESIGHT AND CREATIVENESS ON THE RESPECT THAT YOU GET FROM YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST. I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THIS, I THINK THAT OUR CITY HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY ECONOMICALLY WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS, 3 TO 4 YEARS EXTREMELY WELL. UP UNDER NICK MIMS ADMINISTRATION.

I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HIS ENTHUSIASM, HIS FAMILIARITY WITH THE -- AS THE MAYOR INDICATED EARLIER, HOMETOWN ISSUES AND BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM BECAUSE IS A PART OF US AND I KNEW THAT BRINGING HIM ON BOARD WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET FOR THAT REASON. AND THAT'S WHY I PUSHED SO HARD TO GET THEM IN THE POSITION THAT IS IN TODAY.

BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, AT LEAST, SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, HAVE SOMEONE THAT WAS A LOCAL AND EVEN COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT HE WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE MAKING HISTORY AND GIVING YOUNG PEOPLE A DREAM AND BEING A ROLE MODEL AND SETTING EXAMPLE TAKING PRECEDENCE WAS ALSO GREAT IN MY MIND. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE ARE GROWING AND WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF GETTING ATTENTION ON THE SMALL TOWN THAT IS NOW BECOMING A BIG CITY. I WILL GET HIM -- GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR DOING THAT. HOWEVER, I HAVE SOME ISSUE WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS AND ONE OF THEM BEING, MR. MIMBS, I CALL IT THE OUT OF THE LOOP CONCERN. I HAD NOTICED THINGS HAPPENING HERE AT CITY HALL THAT I HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE AND I CONTINUE TO ABIDE BY THE SUNSHINE LAW, I CANNOT DISCUSS IT WITH THEM. BUT, IT APPEARS THAT -- FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE NOW RECENTLY GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF THE WAY WE CARRY OUR MEETINGS OUT AND HAVE A GRAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT NOW I'M SEEING ON A VIDEO ON A BOARD WHEN I GET HOME, INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT ARE -- THEY ARE NOT SEEN OR HEARD FOR THAT MATTER AS FAR AS THEIR PARENTS AND BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC. AND IF IT WAS A RULE THAT WAS MADE, I WISH TO HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN IT AND THAT'S WHY I CALL IT THE OUT OF THE LOOP. I WISH THAT I HAD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE LAWS IN PLACE AND ARE CALLED FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS THAT COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION THAT THE LAW GUARANTEES THEM FROM A FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL STANDPOINT, THEIR ABILITY TO BE HEARD AND HOW THEY ARE HEARD IN THE CAN BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. NOW WHO CAME UP WITH THAT RULE? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE YOU ALL WERE CALLED, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHY I CALL IT THE OUT OF THE LOOP AND WHOEVER DID IT WITHOUT THE CONSENSUS OF ALL OF US OR HAD ANY IMPACT ON IT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ALSO, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HAVE NOTICED HERE RECENTLY, THAT OUR MAYOR IS ESCORTING HAS BEEN HERE RECENTLY BY SECURITY PATROL. AND IT APPEARS THAT THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE, BUT IF IT'S AN

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ISSUE, I WISHED I HAD BEEN, AGAIN, INCLUDED IN THE LOOP AND NOT OUT OF THE LOOP IN TERMS OF THE DECISION-MAKING WITH REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS HAVE PUT INTO SECURITY WITH THE MAYOR COMING IN AND OUT. AND IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE OF CONCERN, WE HAVE A MAYOR THAT'S ESCORTED WITH SOMEONE IN FRONT OF THEM AND SOMEONE IN BACK OF THEM AND THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT AND ARE ESCORTED ALL AROUND TOWN, THAT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. AND IF IT IS AN ISSUE, THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE LOOP. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL WERE, BUT I WAS NOT. I, FOR ONE, HAVE ISSUE -- TRUST ME, WITH THREATS ALL THE TIME. BUT, NOT TO SAY THAT I WANT TO TAKE -- PUT ANYBODY IN THE POSITION THAT I AM IN FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT AGAIN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING OR A PRACTICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO START TO PRACTICE, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE I SEE THE OFFICERS THAT ARE DOING IT HAVE SENIORITY IN THE PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO DO IT. I WISHED I HAD BEEN INCLUDED IN THE LOOP TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT. THE EXITING OF THE BUILDING. I STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT SYSTEM OUT YET. ALL I ASK FOR IS A PHONE CALL AND BE INCLUDED IN THE LOOP. WE HAVE TO CUT THE LIGHTS OFF AND WALK OUTSIDE IN ALL OF THIS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS AND WHY IT WAS EVEN PUT IN PLACE, BUT AGAIN, IF I HAD BEEN CONSULTED OR AT LEAST HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT, THEN MAYBE I WOULD UNDERSTAND IT. AND I'M -- AGAIN, I'M GOING BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE PUBLIC HAVING THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. PLEASE, LET'S ADDRESS THAT. WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWSUITS AS IT IS. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER LAWSUIT AND THAT'S ONE THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME UP SOON. I DON'T KNOW IF MY CITY ATTORNEY WAS CONSULTED BEFORE WE STARTED THIS PRACTICE OR NOT. FROM A FIDUCIARY STANDPOINT, I'M GOING TO DO ALL I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN PROTECT THE CITIZENS IN TERMS OF LAWSUITS AND POTENTIAL LAWSUITS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, INDIVIDUALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST AND SPEAK THEIR OPINION AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD AND SEEN. I, FOR ONE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU IT PROBABLY WORKS IN MY FAVOR BECAUSE OF HIM TALK ABOUT ME ALL THE TIME BUT GUESS WHAT, IT'S BIGGER THAN ME. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT REGGIE SESSIONS. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO COMMAND AND ADDRESS ME. SO ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT WHICH THE LAW GUARANTEES THEM THE RIGHT TO DO SO THAT I HAVE NO SAY SO. ANOTHER THING, MR. MIMBS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WITH YOU IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING FROM A POSITIVE STANDPOINT IS THIS: YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SEVERAL TIMES AND IS GOTTEN WORSE HERE RECENTLY. A NUMBER CAN ADDRESS IT THIS EVENING WHILE A LOT MORE TIME WILL TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF IT LATER. BUT, THE ADMINISTRATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT YOUR ATTENTION IN TERMS OF THE AS A CATALYST ADDRESSING CERTAIN MATTERS OF CONCERN ABOUT MY OBSERVATIONS OF WHAT I FEEL WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR CITY FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OFTEN TIMES, I WILL BRING IT UP AND I WOULD BRING IT TO THE ADMINISTRATORS ATTENTION AND IT APPEARS THAT EVEN THOUGH I AM TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW SO IT CAN WORK IN YOUR FAVOR, IT APPEARS THAT I AM -- I HAVE TO BE DRILLED OR QUESTIONED ABOUT MY ASSESSMENT INSTEAD OF THE ISSUE BEING ADDRESSED. AND ABROAD THAT YOUR ATTENTION TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE AND IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER. PRIME

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EXAMPLE HERE ABOUT A MONTH AND HALF AGO I BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT SOME GUYS CAME THROUGH 21ST STREET I BELIEVE ABOUT SHOOTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I MADE A COMMENT I BELIEVE I SAID THEIR AGES WERE FROM 8 TO 17. I SAID THEY WERE PROBABLY ABOUT 15. I GET A REPORT IN THE MEMO QUESTIONING IS OR NOT THEY WERE 8910 1112. THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, HOW OLD THEY WERE. THE FACT REMAINS IS THAT THE ISSUE AND WHAT THE CITIZENS WERE COMPLAINING TO ME ABOUT I BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION IN THE MEETING. I DON'T NEED EVERY TIME I BRING SOMETHING TO THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION'S ATTENTION THAT HAVE TO GET A FLUX OF EMAILS EVERYBODY APPEAR TO CRITICIZE OR REEVALUATE OR QUESTION WHAT I HAVE SAID BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY NOBODY APPEARS MY BOSS. NO ONE. MY ONLY BOSS OR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THAT'S MY BOSS. SO BY YOU SENDING EMAILS, QUESTIONING EVERY CRITICISM OF EVERY ASSESSMENT THAT I MAKE ABOUT POLICE WORK IN THIS CITY AND SENDING IT TO EVERYBODY, THAT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING FOR ME. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A BOSS UP HERE. IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ME AND QUESTIONED ME, PULL ME IN A MEETING WITH YOUR ADMINISTRATOR. BUT THAT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. AS A MATTER FACT, IT JUST AGGRAVATES THE PROBLEM BECAUSE HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CITIZENS AND I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS.

AND I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT. AND IS GETTING WORSE.

OMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, COMMISSIONER PERRONE POINTED OUT EARLIER ABOUT BEING NOTIFIED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY, THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN OF MINE. THIS IS A SMALL CITY AND REST ASSURED, EVERY TIME SOMEBODY SHOT MY PHONE IS RINGING OFF THE HAWK THAT HAD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AND SAY WHAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING ABOUT THE PROBLEM. BUT THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION THERE. AT ONE POINT IN TIME WE WERE GETTING TAX FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PRESS OF MY CONSTITUENTS IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. PLEASE COME AGAIN, I'M ASKING YOU, TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM. R. MIMS I BELIEVE WHATEVER REASON -- OUT TO GET YOU THERE SOMETHING GOING ON HERE AND I'M GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. I THINK IT'S A DEPARTMENT HEADS BUT FOR WHATEVER REASONS ARE DOING SOMETHING AND YOU ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO DO WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING HELD BACK LIKE MY OLD MAN USED TO SAY I GOT A HAND AT THE HOUSE, SON, THE DOG MUST WAG THE TAIL. YOU ARE NOT -- NOT THE TAIL WAG THE DOG. SO, I ENCOURAGE YOU, I'M INSPIRED BY WHAT YOU DOING IN TERMS OF YOUR MOTIVATION, WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WE NEED TO ADDRESS. IF WE DON'T, MR. MIMBS, IS GOING TO COST US. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO OUR CITY IN TERMS OF SOME LEGALITY OF ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TAKING CARE OF THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY. THAT IS GOING TO BE UNDER YOUR WATCH. AND I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PUBLIC BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT THEM LOOKING AT ME AND BLAMING ME. EVERYONE OF US APPEAR, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING. AND I SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES THE PUBLIC WILL HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAPPENING OUT HERE. SO Y'ALL BETTER GET READY BECAUSE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN APPOINTED FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND WE NEED TO TAKE MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. AND MR. MIMBS JUST BY THE CHANGE OF THREE OF US LIVING HERE COULD GET YOU OUT THE DOOR, TOO. TOO FOR THAT MATTER. SO DON'T GET SO COMFORTABLE AND COMPLACENT WITH WHAT IS GOING ON HERE THAT EVEN MEAN YOU BOTH CAN BE REPLACED.

JUST BY A MERE SINGLE VOTE. AND I LOVE ELECTION TO KNOW WHY A LEVEL? IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE VIBE OF THE COMMUNITY SO I GIVE YOU AN EVALUATION THAT WILL ONLY HELP YOU. I'M NOT HERE TO HURT YOU. I'M HERE TO HELP YOU. I HOPE YOU TAKE THINGS SERIOUS AND RECTIFY SOME OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE WHILE I'M JUST ONE, AM ONE OF FIVE. SO I APPRECIATE

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THE OPPORTUNITY. I HOPE WE CAN WORK ON SOME ISSUES AND DO THINGS A LITTLE BETTER AND AM LOOKING FORWARD TO A BETTER FUTURE. THANK YOU. MS. COX? READY TO MOVE ON.

[f. Annual performance review - Pete Sweeney, City Attorney]

>> THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF PETE SWEENEY, CITY ATTORNEY.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START SINCE HE STARTED LAST TIME? QUITE SURE.

MAYBE GO FIRST. I CAN DO THAT. PETE, I'M EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE ON OUR STAFF AND APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONAL ADVICE AND THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU PROVIDE THE COMMISSION.

YOU DO A LOT OF RESEARCH AND YOU'RE WELL-PREPARED FOR THE ISSUES THAT COME FORWARD. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE THOSE EFFORTS. THERE HASN'T BEEN A TIME REALLY THAT WE'VE BEEN STUMPED. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO THE PROCESS EVEN THOUGH IT'S COMPLICATED, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE A HUGE BURDEN AND YOU HAVE LIMITED STAFF. AND I THINK YOU HAVE AN OPEN FTE, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD MOVE FORWARD ON IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AND YOUR BUDGET TO DO SO. BECAUSE IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT WE ARE WELL-EQUIPPED FOR THE ISSUES THAT COME FORWARD. SO YOU TURN YOUR MY GUN WERE YOU GOING TO

SAY THAT YOU ALREADY. >> I WANT TO BE READY TO ANSWER

IF YOU ASK ME A QUESTION. >> NO PROBLEM. SO THOSE ARE SOME GOOD USE THERE. YOU CAN'T BE PREPARED EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS NOT IN ANY GIVEN TIME. THERE'S BEEN SOME CRITICISM IN RECENT DAYS OFF THAT AND I DISAGREE WITH THAT CRITICISM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE -- IT HAS TO BE RESEARCHED AND WELL THOUGHT AND OPINION HAS TO BE ADMINISTERED. SO I JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. WAS THE POSITION, MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS THAT WE PROVIDE MORE -- WHAT'S THE WORD I WANT TO USE? I DON'T WANT THE PERCENT WORK ETHIC IS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU THAT WITH THE NEW FTE, THAT WE DEDICATE A LIAISON PERSON FROM YOUR OFFICE.

>> I KNOW YOU HAVE A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH MR. MIMBS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE IT AND I KNOW WHY YOU DO THAT. BUT IF YOU WERE TO CREATE A LIAISON IN THE OFFICE, YOU HAVE THAT FTE, MAYBE WE CAN STREAMLINE THE PROCESS POSSIBLY. IF WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T. YOU HAVE A PROCESS AND I VALUE THAT PROCESS. BUT IF IT'S SOME AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND NICK THAT YOU CAN WORK ON IN FORMALIZING NOT, DOES THE IMPROVEMENTS I'D LIKE TO SAY. WHEN YOU HAVE A DEPARTMENT OR AN ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT IS LITERALLY -- IS ON THE BOOKS IS ONE THIRD OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET, IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT. THE SAFETY AND WELLNESS AND SECURITY OF OUR COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT. SO YOU ARE PART OF THAT AND YOUR PARTNERSHIP IS IMPORTANT TO ME IN THE CITIZENS. THAT'S MY CHALLENGE AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE DOING THE WORK OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COMMISSIONER PERRONE WANT TO GO NEXT?

>> SURE. PETE, SO, WHAT TO BRING TO THE TABLE? WE ARE UNIQUE IN HAVING SOMEBODY THAT HAS LOCAL HISTORY AND A BIG CONNECTION TO OUR OWN COMMUNITY. IT ENOUGH ALONE.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT BEFORE AND THERE'S ALWAYS A DISCONNECT WHEN YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND YOU HAVE -- YOU ARE SEAMLESS. YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU KNOW MOST OF THE PLAYERS. AND YOU CAN TRANSLATE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE LEGAL WORLD TO OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU DO THAT WELL. AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG ASSET THAT WE HAVE. YOUR EXPERIENCE BOTH IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LEGAL WORLD, I GET TO SEE THE VALUE OF THAT. AND WE ARE ALSO BENEFITING FROM THAT. THE WORLD IS CHANGING REALLY FAST. AND I'M THRILLED THAT YOU ARE ONE OF OUR YOUNGEST DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE I FOUND THAT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I COULD CHANGE -- HANDLE CHANGE BETTER. EVERY WAS NO BIG DEAL. EVEN AS YOU ARE READING THE GOVERNOR'S

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ORDER, HERE'S HOW WE HAVE -- THIS IS THE WAY WE GO. I HAVE A TENDENCY TO CHISELED IN STONE AND DEAL WITH HER THAT WAY. I THINK DOING A GREAT JOB. FOR SOME OF US, COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, HOW MANY TIMES THE PAST THEY SAY I DON'T KNOW THEIR STOCK IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. IT HASN'T BEEN STUCK IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

IT GOES TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SO FAST I'M WONDERING IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AT ALL BUT I KNOW YOU ARE. SO THAT SPEAKS TO THIS. IF I COULD MAKE A COMMENT WHICH I DO AND I WOULD HAVE TO STRUGGLE FOR THIS, PETE, BECAUSE OF HAPPY WITH THE PERFORMANCE THAT YOU HAD HERE.

WE GET BACK TO SOME NORMAL -- NEED TO HAVE UPDATES. I LEARN WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE LEGAL WORLD. HOW COULD WE BE MORE RESPONSIBLE AS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT OUR LAMENESS. MAKE SURE WE DON'T CROSS THE LINE OF OUR LANE. MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND MORE AND MORE THE RIGHTS OF OUR FOLKS THE APPROACHES THAT WANT TO BE HURTING THAT WE SERVE. SO IF YOU CAN, JUST MAYBE, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AT LEAST, OF AN EDUCATIONAL SEMINAR WHERE WE COME IN HERE AND WE LISTEN TO YOU. TELL US WHAT TO DO AND

WHAT NOT TO DO. THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

ALEXANDER? >>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: YES.

I WAS COUNTING UP THE YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND BEFORE YOU GOT THERE I WAS SO ELATED THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN -- OUR OWN -- I SAY OUR OWN -- THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE OWN LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY. YOU MAKE THE MOST MONEY OUT OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR PAY RAISE, BUT ONE IN QUESTION IS AN ADDENDUM TO YOUR CONTRACT. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHEN YOU FIRST MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO BECOME AN ATTORNEY, YOU AGREE TO MOVE FORT PIERCE AS A RESIDENCE AND -- AND WHAT, TWO YEARS? DID THAT HAPPEN?

>> MCNAMARA? >>MAYOR HUDSON: SURE.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, THAT'S ACCURATE. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SELL MY HOUSE. IT'S BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MOVE. QUICKSET STOPS YOU FROM MOVING? SIR?

>> QUITE FRANKLY, SIR, YES. I HAVE TWO VERY SMALL CHILDREN AND I'M BEEN A HOMEOWNER FOR 14

YEARS AND I ENJOY HAVING HOME. >> BUT A LOOK AT JUST AMENDED CONTRACT YOUR REQUIREMENT AFTER TWO MORE YEARS TO MOVE TO FORT PIERCE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> NO NOT TWO MORE YEARS. NEW YORK. IT RESTATED THE.

>>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: DID I MISUNDERSTAND SOMETHING? I KNOW I CAN'T READ EVERYTHING AND COMPREHEND, BUT I THINK I READ THAT MUCH IS SAID TO GIVE YOU TWO YEARS ÃYOU ARE CORRECT. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, -- EXCUSE ME. THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS JANUARY 7, 2019. AND THEY GAVE ME TWO YEARS TO BECOME A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THE AMENDED AGREEMENT WHICH I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW HAS AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY HAS AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 7, 2020. IT WAS EXACTLY ONE YEAR LATER AND IT KEPT THE SAME LANGUAGE FOR TWO YEARS TO RELOCATE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE CONTRACT LENGTH

WAS THREE YEARS. >> MR. SWEENEY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOU ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CRITERIA OF THE JOB WAS AS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY BAC FORT PIERCE PRESIDENT, RIGHT?

>> THE AGREEMENT THAT I AGREED TO, YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: OKAY. I'M NOT -- NOTHING PERSONAL, I WOULD TELL THAT TO THE ATTORNEY WE BROUGHT ALL THE WAY FROM TEXAS, YOU KNOW, HAD TO BRING HIS -- MOVE HIS FAMILY HERE.

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SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING -- NO PERSONAL ATTACK TO YOU. I SEE ARE THE HIGHEST PAID EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. YOU KNOW, THAT MUST BE A PLUS TO YOU. I SAW THAT WE BROUGHT THIS BACK -- I QUESTIONED IT IN JANUARY WHY WAS WE REVISITING YOUR CONTRACT IN JANUARY WHEN EVERY YEAR IN JUNE, WE HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME AS SUCH, TO REVISIT, AMEND ALL CONTRACTS.

SO YOU KNOW, ONCE WE START CHANGING THAT, NO, I JUST -- I LOOK AT IT AS STAFF DRIVEN AND IT SHOULDN'T BE STAFF DRIVEN. AND THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION I HAVE TO YOU. YOU KNOW YOU'RE DOING AN ADEQUATE JOB. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING OUR IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY BECAUSE THAT MEANT SO MUCH. I WAS SO SICK AND TIRED OF THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE IN THE PAST, THE PAST 50 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S NOT A -- THAT WASN'T A GOOD QUESTION FOR THEM TO USE -- YOU BEEN THE ATTORNEY FOR SIX -- 50 YEARS SOME THINGS WASN'T DONE RIGHT. I THINK THE MAYOR, WHEN SHE CAME IN SHE CRITIQUED SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WAS NOT DONE RIGHT. SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE CRITIQUING YOU OR MICROMANAGING YOU. I JUST THINK, YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB AND YOU'RE DOING IT TO THE BEST YOUR ABILITY AND APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. SESSIONS?

>> MR. SWEENEY, WHEN WE HIRED HIM I FEEL REAL CONFIDENT AND I STILL DO FEEL CONFIDENT IN HIS ABILITY. HE'S TREATED ME WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINESS OF HIS RESPONSES WHEN I CALL THEM, I CAN REACH HIM. IF I CAN'T REACH THEM, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO REACH HIM WHETHER IT'S DAY, NIGHT WEEKEND, WHATEVER. AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. HE IS DOING A GOOD JOB FROM THAT ASPECT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR GROWTH IN TO HELP THAT IS GOING TO BE WITH US AND I HOPE THAT THE MERE FACT THAT COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER POINTED OUT SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR CONTRACT AND THUS NO INDICATION THAT YOU NOT GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE. YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS ON YOUR MIND. AND I JUST HOPE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE SO CONFIDENT WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO BETTER IF YOU JUST GIVE IT SOME PERIOD AND I'LL SAY THIS MUCH, AND IS NOT SO MUCH A POINT OF CRITICISM, BUT I THINK IT'S YOU JUST TRYING TO BE A PEOPLE PLEASER AS AN ATTORNEY. THE CITY COMMISSION IS SOMEWHAT SPOILED IN A SENSE THAT WE HAVE HAD A LEGAL STAFF THAT CONSISTED OF A FIRM. BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAD SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT SPECIALIZED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, AND NOT FIRM, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF GETTING ONE OF THE 12 LAWYERS TO ANSWER ONE OF THE MAJOR QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD. THAT WAS THE ADVANTAGE OF A FIRM REPRESENTING A MUNICIPALITY, BUT AS YOU KNOW, THAT DID NOT WORK OUT AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE HERE. AND I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS YOU ARE ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL. AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN AREAS OF LAW THAT YOU HAVE -- THAT YOU SPECIALIZING IN YOUR VERY GOOD AT IT AND THEN A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS NEW TO YOU. AND I WILL SAY THAT YOU DO, A LOT OF TIMES, TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE, YOU TAKE THE TIME AND LOOK INTO IT, BUT I WANT YOU TO BE A LITTLE MORE ATENTATIVE TO THAT ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU REPRESENT YOURSELF FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT AND TAKING A POSITION SOMETHING LEGAL IF YOU SAY WILL MR. SESSIONS, REGGIE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL ME,

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LET ME GET BACK WITH YOU AND LOOK INTO IT OR EVEN FROM THIS COMMISSION, IF YOU'RE SITTING OVER THERE AND AN ISSUE COMES UP, AND YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, I'D LIKE TO RECESS THE CITY COMMISSION AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT ISSUE. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE AREA OF LAW IS SO BROAD IN BEING A MUNICIPAL LAWYER REQUIRES YOU TO KNOW SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, SO -- I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS SOMETHING TO CRITIQUE YOU AND CRITICIZE YOU, BUT SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE YOU ON HOW YOU CAN IMPROVE YOURSELF. AND I WON'T BE OFFENDED WE EVEN HAD ROB'S WHERE YOU THAT'S WHAT LAWYERS DO IN THE MEANTIME THERE COSTING US BUT HERE YOU HAVE A SALARY. YOU CAN TELL US I WANT YOU TO SET YOURSELF UP REPERCUSSIONS COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU I WANT YOU TO BE THE BEST IF YOU CAN. I KNOW YOU CAN. I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU.

AND I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT. I WANT THE BEST FOR YOU BUT WORK ON THAT AREA. ELEANOR ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE UNLIKE IN THE PRIOR ATTORNEYS THAT WE DEALT WITH. YOU DON'T LET THE POLITICS GET INVOLVED. YOU LET ME BE THE POLITICIAN AND YOU GIVE ME THE ANSWER FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE AND I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT. YOU MAY DISAGREE OR AGREE WITH ME. BUT YOU DON'T TELL ME THAT'S MY POLITICAL DECISION. YOU GIVE ME AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT I NEED FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE AND I LIKE THAT. JUST LOOK INTO THAT AREA OR SOMETHING I WILL BE OFFENDED I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A PRIORITY IN YOUR DOING RESEARCH. BUT HATS OFF TO YOU. I HOPE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVEN'T SOLD YOUR HOUSE DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE LONG. I HOPE YOU STAY WITH US BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU CAN GROW FOR THAT MATTER WHO'S TO SAY I MAY BE GONE, TOO. WHOEVER MY PREDECESSOR IS I THINK THERE'S A GREAT FUTURE AND I WISH YOU THE BEST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL BE BRIEF, PEETE I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT STAFFED UP. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU LOOKED AT IT CAREFULLY AND YOU ARE GOING SLOW WITH THAT I REALLY. I BELIEVE WE WERE OVERSTAFFED BEFORE AND I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF THAT WE PAY A LOT MORE MONEY TO NOT FIRM THE MIRROR SHOULD OF HAD TO.

O I VRY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE TAKING A CAREFUL LOOK AT THAT IN TAKING THAT SLOW.

AND I I KNOW THAT YOU WROTE IN YOUR MEMO, BUT I'VE BEEN CARRYING THIS AROUND FOR ME FOR YOUR REVIEW. IT'S THE FLORIDA LEGAL ELITE PAGE OF FLORIDA TREND AND SPEAKER JAY SWEENEY IS MENTIONED IN IT. I'VE BEEN CARRYING THIS AROUND FOR YOUR REVIEW AND I WILL PUT IN MY SCRAPBOOK AND I'LL LOOK AT IT. AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF IT. AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO. AND I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. YOU'VE BEEN A BIG HELP TO ME PERSONALLY IN TERMS OF -- OF MANAGING DIFFICULT ISSUES. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE THERE FOR ALL OF US TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING YET, BUT MAYBE ANOTHER ONE OF

THOSE IS GOING TO COME OUT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. ALL

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. >> IS IT GOING TO UNDO WHAT

ALREADY -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: (LAUGHING) YES.

OKAY. >> HE THAT DECEIVED CARRIED OUT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. MS. COX, SHALL WE GO ON?

[g. Annual performance review - Linda W. Cox, City Clerk]

>> NEXT IS THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF LINDA COX, CITY CLERK.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START?

>>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: YES. I ONLY HAVE ONE THING. I SIT NEXT TO LINDA COX, THE CITY CLERK, AND I SEE HOW EFFICIENT SHE IS. AS I READ HER AMENDED CONTRACT, I'M A LITTLE

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CONFUSED. I THOUGHT SHERRY HAD HER CERTIFICATE. I FEEL CONFIDENT -- IN RECORD TIME COMMENTING. SHE DID SOME HARD WORK FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. DID I MISUNDERSTAND

THAT, MS. COX? >> IT WAS A RESTATEMENT OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. I DID GET MY CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL CLERK CERTIFICATION WITHIN THE TIME THAT WAS REQUIRED BY CONTRACT. I DO HAVE THAT.

>> OKAY. I THOUGHT AS MUCH. AND THEN IT WAS WELL RECEIVED. BUT THEN WHEN I READ THE AMENDED CONTRACT, WHAT WAS THAT WORDED ADDED TO THIS CONTRACT WHERE IT'S NOT EVEN CALLED FOR? BECAUSE IS GIVING YOU EXTENSION OF TIME, UNTIL 2023, I THINK IT WAS, TO RECEIVE YOUR

CERTIFICATE? >> I THINK THE INTENTION WAS NOT TO CHANGE ANY OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT. ALL WE WERE TRYING TO CHANGE IS THE LEAVE ACCRUAL WE LEFT EVERYTHING THE SAME. IT WAS CLEAR THAT NOTHING ELSE WAS

CHANGING. >>COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER: I DIDN'T TAKE IT THAT WAY. WHEN I SAW THE AMENDED CONTRACT, I THOUGHT THIS CONTRACT BEING AMENDED AND EVERYTHING IS GOING FORTH WITH YOU KNOW FROM THIS DAY FORWARD. SO, IF THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT YOU ALL INTENTION MORE IN THE BEGINNING NOT TO -- I'M FINE WITH THAT.

THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH YOUR WORK. AND AS LONG AS YOU TAKE CARE OF THE PUBLIC AND YOU ARE THERE, A BUFFER, BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER AND THE PUBLIC. AND I DON'T -- I DON'T GET ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. I THINK YOU DO A VERY GOOD JOB. BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, EVERYONE HAS ROOM TO IMPROVE. THAT'S ME.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: SURE. I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE REAL EASY. A VERY SATISFIED WITH THE CLERK. YOU DO A GREAT JOB. AND IT'S NOT YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO ANYTHING

AT ALL, (LAUGHING). >>MS. COX: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THE STAFF IS AMAZING. I DON'T EVEN NEED TO TALK TO ANYMORE. YOUR STAFF PRETTY MUCH KEEPS ME STRAIGHT AND NARROW. WHICH IS A REFLECTION OF YOU, OF COURSE, AS THE MANAGER. I REMEMBER YEARS AND YEARS AGO I INVITED TO MYSELF TO A MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME. WE WERE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON WHY THE MEDIA WAS PICKING UP AND PICKING ON THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ALL THE TIME. I MEAN THE REPORTER, WHO HAS SINCE RETIRED -- I WILL MENTION HIS NAME, BUT EVERYONE KNOWS WHO HE IS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: (LAUGHING) I KNOW.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WITH AN ENGLISH ACCENT -- BUT I WON'T SAY WHO HE IS ABOUT FAIRNESS. BUT HE DID SAY THE REASON WHY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS CRITICIZED IS THAT TRUTHFUL INFORMATION IS NOT READILY AVAILABLE. AND SINCE IS NOT AVAILABLE, YOU KIND OF MAKE IT UP FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. WHICH I THOUGHT WAS FAIR. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANYMORE. I GOT A HANDLE ON IT PRETTY MUCH THE DAY HE WALKED IN THERE WE HAD A HANDLE ON IT. AND THAT SPEAKS HIGHLY TO THIS. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INTUITIVENESS TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME I GET CALLS FROM YOU ALL THE TIME. MOSTLY COMMISSIONER YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, (LAUGHING), AND I APPRECIATE THE GUIDANCE. SO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO WORK ON AND THIS IS FOR YOUR STAFF. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR STAFF, THEY ARE INTELLIGENT. MOST OF THEM ARE BILINGUAL. THE RESOURCEFUL AS ALL GET OUT, AND THEY TAKE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF ABUSE AND I DON'T THINK YOU PAY THEM

ENOUGH. SO THAT'S MY THING. >> (LAUGHING).

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I GUESS IT BOILS DOWN TO WHAT COMMISSIONER PERRONE POINTED OUT HIS FARS THE OFFICERS CONCERNED, YOUR STAFF. SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, PROBABLY FOR THE EXCEPTION OF

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ONE PERSON, MAURA HAS BEEN A BLESSING TO ME IN TERMS OF BEING ON TOP OF ME. SHE'S LIKE SECRETARY/WIFE, SO TO SPEAK. SHE STAYS ON TOP OF ME. SHE KEEPS ME INFORMED. SHE DOESN'T LET ME FORGET THE DEADLINES. SHE'S BEEN A GREAT HELP TO ME. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF HER.

SHE'S BEEN AN ASSET TO ME. BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU A LITTLE MORE. I THINK YOUR LITTLE SPOILED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL ME LIKE HE USED TO. I USED TO HEAR FROM YOU. IT WOULD BE GOOD IF I COULD HEAR FROM YOU EVERY NOW AND THEN INSTEAD OF HER, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MEANT AS AN INSULT OR CRITICISM. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TALK TO YOU SOMETIME.

BUT AS FAR AS YOUR OFFICE IS CONCERNED, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT IS GOING ON AND SHE IS AN ASSET AND I APPRECIATE HER FOR WHAT SHE'S DOING. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME, COMMISSIONER (LAUGHING) SHE DON'T WANT TO

TALK TO BE NO MORE. >>MAYOR.

>>MS. COX: I'LL WORK ON THAT. >> APPRECIATE THE DELEGATION APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THE OFFICE. WHEN I WALK INTO THE OFFICE IS PROFESSIONAL. IT'S HELD WITH A LOT OF INTEGRITY AND YOU HAVE A GOOD STAFF THAT KNOWS THE BUSINESS. AND THAT'S TREMENDOUS AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS THE RECORDKEEPER AND THE PROVIDER OF ALL THE RECORDS KE AND THE PROVIDER OF ALL THE RECORDS AND AS YOU'RE DICTATING AGE.

IT'S THE BUSINESS SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE REQUEST, IT MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT HOW YOU RESPOND AND HOW YOU LOOK IT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT REQUEST AT A CERTAIN TIME.

BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE PROVIDED. SO THAT'S MY CHALLENGE TO YOU AS FAR WHAT IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, AND THAT TAKES TECHNOLOGY TOO, SO YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE IT LEGAL AND ALL THINGS.

IT'S ALL A PART OF THIS PACKAGE. BUT I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT. I HAVE HOPE AND FAITH THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD. I KNOW THAT'S A GOAL OF YOURS TOO.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, YOUR OFFICE, YOU HANDLE LIKE WHAT I SAID INTEGRITY EARLIER, YOU HANDLE THE REQUEST WITH PROFESSIONALISM.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE ANSWER FOLKS WANT TO HEAR. BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THAT ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION AND THEY THOUGHT THEY ASKED FOR IT THE RIGHT WAY AND YOU DON'T GET GOOD FEEDBACK AFTER YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE IT OR YOU GIVE A RESPONSE, SO CAN'T THAT EFFORT AND GOOD WORK IN TRYING TO BE AS CUSTOMER FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING IT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW YOUR HONOR YOU'RE APPRECIATED EVEN WHEN THERE IS AN ANSWER THAT IS NOT SO WELL RECEIVED. SO THANK YOU.

>> SO I'M GLAD IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE PUBLIC RECORDS, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING ALWAYS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME, TRANSPARENCY, AND OUR RESPONSE RATE AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TURN THE REPUTATION IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AROUND SO WE'RE SEEN AS A TRANSPARENT CITY THAT WANTS TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW, YOUR JOB, THE CITY CLERK'S JOB HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S SO CRITICAL ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS AND PROVIDING WHAT SOMEBODY ASKED FOR IF IT'S AVAILABLE, AND WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF TECHNOLOGY, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING IS A PUBLIC RECORD, INCLUDING TEXTS, INCLUDING FACEBOOK POSTS, INCLUDING -- AND IT'S VERY, VERY DICEY TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU DO A REALLY GOOD JOB DOING THAT, I THINK YOU'VE REALLY INCREASED THE PROFESSIONALISM OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I LOVE IT THAT WE HAVE TWO SPANISH SPEAKING CLERKS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY BADLY NEEDED. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR SERVICE ATTITUDE TO THE PUBLIC. AND ALSO, THAT THE ATTACH YOU'VE JUST BEEN THROUGH A

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CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT'S BEYOND BEING A CITY CLERK. IT'S PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.

>> GRADUATE CERTIFICATE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT. INSTEAD OF DOING THE ENTIRE MPA PROGRAM, SINCE I ALREADY HAD MY MBA, THIS IS A CERTIFICATE PROGRAM THAT'S JUST ALL THE KEY -- IT'S A HALF OF A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, BASICALLY.

IT'S ALL THE KEY COMPONENTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT AND CERTIFICATION.

>> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR MAKING THAT EFFORT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED -- WE NEED THAT CONTINUING EDUCATION AND CONTINUING EMPHASIZE, BECAUSE WE ALL JUST WERE ON FOUR HOURS OF ETHICS, ZOOM MEETING ON THE FIRST DAY. THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS AND THE SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC MEETINGS LAW AND THE SERIOUSNESS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE. I THINK ALL OF OUR STAFF NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT TOO. APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN THAT. SO THAT'S IT FOR ME.

GOOD JOB. ENJOYED IT. >> WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

PUBLIC. >> NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME UP.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, YOU'LL HAVE A COME ON UP, MR. BUDRIS. YOU'LL GET A WARNING, A TWO-SECOND OR THREE-SECOND -- THREE-SECOND WARNING. WELCOME.

IF YOU WILL -- ARE WE SIGNING IN? >> YES, SIGN IT AND PUT YOUR

ADDRESS. >> AND YOUR TIME WON'T START UNTIL YOU START TALKING.

AND WHEN YOU START TALKING, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESSING I WOULD APPRECIATE

IT. >> MY HOME ADDRESS? >> THAT'S FINE.

>> 11,800 TWIN CREEKS DRIVE FORT PIERCE. >> WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN.

>> CHAT BIDRIA, THE CAR MAN OF DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE MARKET. I WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING GETTING THE BALL ROLLING ON GETTING OPEN BACK UP.

IT'S NEEDED. I HAVE TO REPRESENT ALL OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES WE HAVE IN OUR MARKET. I SEE HOW MUCH THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH NOT HAVING ANYWHERE TO GO OR NOT BEING IN OUR PLACE. WE HAVE BEEN DOWN AT THE COUNTY LONGWOOD STADIUM THE LAST MONTH OR SO. THAT HAS HELP ADD LOT.

WE LOVE BEING DOWNTOWN, CONTRIBUTING TO DOWNTOWN. WE WANT TO BE THERE.

A LOT OF THESE VENDORS DO THIS FOR A LIVING. MULTIPLE MARKETS AROUND THE STATE AT DIFFERENT POINTS DURING WEEK. WHEN THIS WHOLE THING CAME UP, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO, THEY WERE SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY. WE HAVE PRESENTED A PLAN, WE WANT TO TAKE THIS AS SERIOUS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN. THAT BEING SAID, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A PLAN TO SPACE OUT THE VENDORS IN AN APPROPRIATE DISTANCE AND WE'RE SOMEWHAT LUCKY THIS IS THE SUMMERTIME AND WE'RE NOT SLAMMED WITH TOURISM PART OF IT. AND A LOT OF VENDOR.

SO WENT WE CAN HELP SOCIAL DISTANCE. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A DOUBT REQUIRE ALL VENDORS PARTICIPATING TO WEAR PROPER PPE AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO DO SO AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD EVER POLICE THE PUBLIC, NOT WEARING A MASK, BUT WE CERTAINLY ARE WILLING TO TRY.