[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE CHILDREN THAT WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS MORNING. I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE TAKING PART OF THIS SMALL, BUT JUDICIAL OPERATION TO SEE HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS. WELCOME. [A. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH TO DEPARTMENTAL WITNESSES] NOW WITH EVERYBODY -- WERE GOING TO DO THIS LIKE LAST WEEK. EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO TESTIFY, PLEASE STANDS SO THAT YOU CAN BE SWORN IN. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE YOUR NAME AND MR. COSTS WILL DIRECT YOU ON WHEN TO SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY. >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STAGE NAMES FOR THE RECORD. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ONE AT A TIME. LET'S START OVER HERE. >> SEAN CAUSE, PAUL JULIAN, -- (AWAY FROM MIC) (SWEARING IN OF THE WITNESS). >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: MADAME [C. 19-2947 508 Means Court Dunbar, Joseph & Michael Edward Smith] CLERK, WHEN YOU ARE READY, CALL THE FIRST CASE. >> THE FIRST CASES 5C, FIVE AWAKE MEANS COURT. JOSEPH AND MICHAEL DUNBAR ARE THE OWNERS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GOOD MORNING, MR. SMITH. I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A FEW MONTHS. >>MR. SMITH: IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. GOOD MORNING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GOOD MORNING. >>MR. SMITH: GOOD MORNING, THIS IS CASE NUMBER 19 294-7580 MEANS COURT. -- 508 MEANS COURT. THE OWNERS ARE JOSEPH AND MICHAEL DUNBAR. THE CASE INFORMATION -- WELL, THE VIOLATIONS ARE SECTION 5-1.105.1, PERMIT REQUIRED. ONE, TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR THE ROOF BEING INSTALLED ON THE STRUCTURE AND REAR -- AND STRUCTURING YOUR YARD BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT. THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY IS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR WILL BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT IS CLOSED, COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER CONDITIONS AND CURE ALL OTHER VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOT REQUIRING -- I MEAN, NOT REQUIRING A PERMIT AND/OR A FINE OF $100 PER DAY. >> OBJECTION. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HOLD ON, SIR. >> YES. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ANYONE. EVERYBODY HERE GETS A CHANCE TO SPEAK. >> OKAY I'M JUST. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. >> YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET ME KNOW. I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW YOU WILL LET HIM SPEAK AND 11 OPPORTUNITY AND WE DON'T SHORTCHANGE EVERYBODY. >> I'M SORRY YOUR HONOR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: NO EXCUSES. I SAID WHAT I SAID. QUIET FINISH, MR. SMITH. >>MR. SMITH: I HAVE PICTURES HERE TO SUBMIT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HAVE THEY [00:05:02] SEEN THE PICTURES? >> ARE BEING BROUGHT UP ON THE SCREEN, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS, SIR. >> YES. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS. CAN I SPEAK. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: NOW. YOU'LL GET A CHANCE. I TOLD YOU THAT. >> I SAID CAN I SPEAK TO HER? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME KNOW. I'LL SIGN IT. OKAY, THEN. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DID YOU SEE THE PICTURES WAS THE QUESTION WHAT YOU JUST WILL BE NOT TO SPEAK. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES, SIR NO. >> I CAN GIVE YOU KNOW YES, SIR NO ANSWER BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME NOT TO SPEAK. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THEY DON'T SPEAK. COUNSELOR? >> CAN I INQUIRE OF THE WITNESS JUST TO LAY FOUNDATION? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. >> DID YOU TAKE THESE PHOTOGRAPHS. >> YES, HE DID. >> DO THEY FAIRLY ENACT RELIEF DEPICT WHICH IS ON THAT DAY. >> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY. AND THAT IS AS TO EVERY SINGLE PHOTOGRAPH IN THIS EXHIBIT, RIGHT? >> YES. SO SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AT THIS TIME WE WOULD OFFER ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS AS CITIES COMPOSITE ONE IN THIS CASE AND I'M GOING TO HAND THEM OVER TO YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THEY WILL BE ADMITTED. MR. SMITH? ANYTHING FURTHER? >>MR. SMITH: NO. YOUR HONOR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SIR. STATE YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS JOSEPH WADDELL DUNBAR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATIONS OF NOT HAVING A PERMIT FOR THE ROOF? >> I OBJECT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: IN THE RAILYARD BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT. >> I OBJECT TO THE ALLEGATIONS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WHAT'S THE NATURE OF YOUR ALLEGATION. >> ONE OF THE NATURES AS THEY VIOLATED MY FOR THE MEN RIGHT TO SEARCH IN MY BACKYARD WITH A CAMERA. THAT'S A PRIVATE YARD. AND ANOTHER OBJECTION AS HE VIOLATED -- YOU ÃBUT HE DIDN'T SEE ME BUILD THAT STRUCTURE. THAT'S ONE THING. AND I DIDN'T BUILD IT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY. >> I OWN THE PROPERTY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. MR. SMITH, IS VERY ROOF BEING INSTALLED WITHOUT A PERMIT? >>MR. SMITH: YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY FROM THE ROAD. THE ACTUAL -- IF YOU LOOK AT PICTURE B, THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE ROOF WAS INSTALLED AND IT WAS INSTALLED INCORRECTLY, AS YOU CAN SEE. THERE ARE NAILS ON TOP OF THE ACTUAL -- THE FINISHED PART OF THE ROOF. AND YOU KNOW YOU WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO SEE NAILS ON THE TOP PART OF THE ROOF OF THE FINISHED PART BECAUSE NAILS CAUSE LEAKS. BUT THE WHOLE THING WAS DONE IMPROPERLY AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY IT REQUIRES A PERMIT. >> BSP? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AND THIS WAS INITIATED BACK IN NOVEMBER? OF 2019? >>MR. SMITH: YES. NOVEMBEROF 2019? >>MR. SMITH: YES. NOVEMBER 10 OF 2019? >>MR. SMITH: YES. NOVEMBER 10, 2019. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. MR. DUNBAR? >>RESPONDENT: THE HOUSE WAS LEAKING WATER FROM THE STORM AND THAT RIGHT THERE CAN BE TOKEN OFF. JUST ROLLED UP AND TAKEN OFF JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE. THERE'S NOTHING CHANGE WITH THE STRUCTURE. THE WHOLE HOUSE IS COMPLETE, THE SAME WAY ABROAD IT. THERE'S NOTHING CHANGE WITH THE STRUCTURE, NOTHING ATTACHED. I TALKED TO THEM IN A MEETING WITH PAUL -- WHATEVER THE SUPERVISOR -- WE CALL THE MEETING HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GET -- I GOT RIGHT HERE WHERE I GOT A PERMIT. I'M TRYING TO GET A PERMIT TO DO MY ROOF, OKAY? I GOT UP WITH THE CITY. CAN I SHOW YOU? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AFTER YOU FINISH TALKING, YES. >> OKAY. WELL I GOT THE PERMIT TO TRY TO DO MY ROOF. OKAY? WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT, WHAT IT TOOK IT ALL OFF. WANT ME TO COME THE STRUCTURE I WOULD TOOK ALL THAT DOWN. HE SAID LEAVE IT. GET YOUR PERMITS. WE WILL WORK WITH YOU. THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF WORKFORCE -- FORT PIERCE WILL DO. THE NEXT THING I KNOW THE GUYS PUTTING STUFF ON MY DOOR AGAIN FOR THINGS WE ARTY SET DOWN IN A MEETING WITH ALL OF THEM AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THIS WRITER KNOW YOU'RE TELLING ME TO DO IT IN 60 DAYS. WHEN I SAT THERE AND ACCREDITS WITH THE THING ÃMICHAEL CAROL THAT STUFF OFF THE ROOF AND THE ROOF WILL LOOK THE SAME WAY. ALL I DID WAS JUST BLOCKING THE RAIN FROM DRIPPING IN THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S WHY THAT IS. AND I CAN TAKE IT DOWN. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. BUT CHARGING ME MONEY FOR THINGS THAT WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT ALREADY IN FRONT OF MR. PAUL, AND YOU UNDERSTAND ME AND NOW WE ARE HERE AGAIN. THAT DOESN'T MAKE NO SENSE. WE ARTY WENT THROUGH THIS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? GET TO THE MIC. UNFORTUNATELY -- THIS IS BEING RECORDED SO HAVE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THE MIC. [00:10:02] >> IN THE APPLICATION THAT WE DID, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. WE WERE WAITING ON THE HISTORICAL APPROVAL AND IT GOT APPROVED ON THE 10TH OF THIS MONTH. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: 'SWE HAVE THE PERMIT? >> WE ARE ALMOST ABOUT THERE. WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT AND -- THE ROOF AND THAT'S IT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> WE HAD TO WAIT ON THE HISTORICAL BEFORE WE COULD MOVE FURTHER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: IF YOU ARE IN THAT PART OF THE CITY, YOU DO. FORTUNATELY, FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT. >> OKAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AND IT DOES TAKE A WHILE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, WHICH DOES TAKE LONGER THAN IF IT WERE JUST THE HOUSE AND IN AN AREA THAT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNATED WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WHILE YOU ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE -- ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS GET YOUR PERMIT. ONCE YOU GET THAT PERMIT, YOU HAVE 180 DAYS. THAT'S SIX MONTHS, TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE. DURING THAT TIME, SINCE -- AND I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS. I'VE LOST COUNT. YOU'VE GOT SIX MONTHS TO GET THAT ROOF WANT TO GET EVERYTHING DONE. WHAT I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO IS WORK WITH STAFF. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IN ANOTHER PLACE AND TRUST ME, THEY WERE NOT NEARLY AS NICE AS THE PEOPLE HERE ARE. SO, JUST GET YOUR PERMIT. CALL MR. SMITH IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. YOU'VE GOT SIX MONTHS TO GET IT DONE. AND THAT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS IT IS. YES, SIR.? >> THAT WAS A MEETING FOR. THAT'S WHY WE HAD A MEETING. I CALLED AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT THAT'S ALL HE BROUGHT THE MEETING TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING AND TAKEN OFF WORK. I'M TRYING TO GET IT DONE BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO FORCE ME TO DO SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T. 60 DAYS IS CRAZY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU'VE GOT 60 DAYS TO GET THE PERMIT AND THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO GET THE WORK DONE. >> UP AND WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THIS PERMIT FOR THE CITY FOR ALMOST 2 OR THREE MONTHS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AND IT WASN'T JUST THE CITY. YOU ALSO TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMITTEE. >> THAT'S ARM CINGULATE GOT A LOT OF STUFF TO GO THROUGH AND TRY TO FIND ME BEFORE I CAN EVEN GET IT DONE. I ONLY PAY THEM SOME MONEY TO GET IT DONE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: SIR, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. >> AS B1 WERE YOU AWARE OF THE FACT THAT IT WAS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? >>. >>. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: IS CALLED CAVEAT EMPTOR LAW. YOU DIDN'T KNOW. NOW YOU KNOW. MR. SMITH DID CREATE THAT ROLE NEITHER DID ANY OF US. IT WAS HERE -- DON'T INTERRUPT ME I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU. YOU'VE GOT A TWO-PART PROCESS. MOST OF US JUST PULL A PERMIT TO GET A ROOM FOR WORK DONE AND THAT'S IT. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE AND THAT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. NOW, ANYTHING FURTHER? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE RESPONDENT REGARDING THE STRUCTURE IN THE REAR YARD. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GO AHEAD, MR. COX BEFORE IS THE STRUCTURE THAT CINDY REAR YARD THAT'S -- IS DISPLAYED BY PHOTOGRAPH A. WHAT IS THE USE OF THAT STRUCTURE? >> IT WAS USED FOR DOGHOUSE. >>MR. COSS: I DOGHOUSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THERE IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION THAT ALLOWS FOR STRUCTURES THAT ARE LESS THAN 120 SQUARE FEET FOR THE PRIMARY USE FOR ANIMAL SHELTER TO BE EXEMPTED FROM PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. SO THE ONLY REMAINING ISSUE HERE IS THE ROOF PERMIT. AS A PROPERTY OWNER INDICATED, THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT AND THE PERMIT HAS NOT YET BEEN ISSUED, BUT AS YOU ALLUDED TO ONCE THE PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED, THEY WILL HAVE 180 DAYS TO OBTAIN AN APPROVED INSPECTION. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU UNDERSTAND? >> I THINK I UNDERSTAND. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DON'T THINK. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION AND? >> YES. YOU ARE SAYING THAT IT'S OKAY TO LEAVE THE STRUCTURE FOR THE DOG OR ARE YOU SAYING AFTER TAKE THAT DOWN OR WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ON THAT, ON THE STRUCTURE? >> IT'S OKAY TO LEAVE THE STRUCTURE. >> OKAY. AND AS FAR AS THE ROOF, WHAT I HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO FINISH OUT WITH MY PERMIT SINCE I'M IN THE PROCESS OF ALREADY -- I ALREADY GAVE THE MONEY TO TRY TO DO THE PROCESS TO GET THE PERMIT TO DO THE ROOF. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. THE CITY IS ASKING -- AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE YOU GOT 60 DAYS. YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE HISTORIC COMMITTEE, RIGHT. SO SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING A PERMIT. NOW LISTEN, ONCE YOU GET THE PERMIT, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO HAVE THE ROOF INSTALLED WHAT I TOLD PEOPLE IS IF YOU HAVE A [00:15:11] QUESTION, PLEASE CALL THE CITY CODE OF PEOPLE. I'M TELLING YOU, THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. I GAVE THEM EVERYTHING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AND THEY TOLD ME I HAVE TO GIVE MORE OF THE SAME THING. I'M LOOKING AT THE PROCESS I DON'T HOW THE PROCESS IS WORKING I NEVER DID THIS WITH THE CITY BEFORE. BUT I'M TRYING I TRIED TO GET IT DONE IN 60 DAYS. ALL I CAN TELL YOU -- I CAN TRY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: NO. YOU GET THE PERMITTED 60 DAYS. BASICALLY YOU HAVE TWO MONTHS TO GET A PERMIT. AFTER THAT, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO FINISH THE ROOF. BUT SOME IN A SIMILAR TRY TO GET THE PERMIT IN 60 DAYS. >> ANYTHING FURTHER? THEM BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY FIND THAT A VIOLATION DOES EXIST AND THAT JOSEPH AND MICHAEL DUNBAR ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION AT 508 MEANS COURT. YOU WILL HAVE 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL INSPECTIONS WHICH THEY DO AND YOU HAVE HUNDRED AND 80 DAYS IF THEY FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S WRONG JUST TALK TO MR. SMITH AND CURE ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAY POP UP. IT'S AN OLD HOUSE. AND IF YOU HAVE DONE HOME REPAIRS, YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE FIXING AN OLD HOUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU FIND HELP. IN MIND, WE WERE DOING SOME REPAIRS WE FOUND TERMITES. SO HAD TO HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF. IT'S CALLED LIFE. BE PREPARED FOR THE UNEXPECTED BECAUSE IT WILL HAPPEN. SO, YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TIME. IF NOT, YOU WILL BE FINED $100 PER DAY. BUT FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU ARE ALMOST THEY ARE. YOU JUST NEED TO GET THE PERMIT. UNFORTUNATELY -- FORTUNATELY DURING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEY ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE HOUSES IN THE DISTRICT. SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT JUST TALK TO THE FOLKS. RELAX A LITTLE BIT. OKAY? YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. NOW ANY QUESTIONS? >> ARE YOU FINDING ME NOW OR IS YOU FINDING ME LATER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU KNOW I HAVE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AND I DON'T HAVE MUCH PATIENCE FOR SOME THINGS. I'M NOT FINDING YOU. I'M GIVING YOU 60 DAYS TO GET THE PERMIT AND YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT TO GET THE WORK DONE. IF YOU RUN INTO ANY COMPLICATIONS, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL WORK WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL MADAME CLERK? WE ARE SKIPPING TO CASE NUMBER 6D. THE ADDRESSES 3207 AVENUE D. WE [D. 19-2074 3207 Avenue D We Brothers Enterprise Inc. Kevin Grant] BROTHERS ENTERPRISE INCORPORATED IS THE OWNER. >> GOOD MORNING QUICK SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OVER THE CASE INTO THE RECORD I HAVE ASKED THE INSPECTOR, KEVIN GRANT, TO BE PRESENT AS THERE IS GOING TO BE QUESTIONS THAT HE CAN TESTIFY TO HIS VERSUS EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS CASE NUMBER 19-2070 443207 AVENUE D. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY WE BROTHERS ENTERPRISE -- YES. WE BROTHERS ENTERPRISE INCORPORATED 8480 MAN-OF-WAR ROAD PALM BEACH GARDENS FLORIDA 33418. THIS CASE WAS INITIATED ON AUGUST 533418. THIS CASE WAS INITIATED ON AUGUST 5, 2019 BY KEVIN GRANT. THE VIOLATIONS ARE FIVE-1.105.1, PERMIT REQUIRED. THIS MATTER CAME BEFORE YOU NOVEMBER 21, 2019. A 90 DAY EXTENSION WAS GRANTED ON JANUARY 21, 2020. ON APRIL 20, 2020, THE 90 DAY EXTENSION EXPIRED. THERE WERE NO PERMITS THAT HAD BEEN ISSUED AND THE FINES BEGAN. AS OF JUNE 9, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE FINES ARE $5030, INCLUDING $30 IN RECORDING FEES. THE RESPONDENT HAS REPLIED TO THE MASSEY LETTER REQUESTING THIS HEARING THIS MORNING. JUST YESTERDAY THE CONTRACTOR SUBMITTED REVISIONS TO THE APARTMENT. MR. GRANT HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE REVISIONS AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT HE HAS, PRIMARILY, THAT THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED ARE NOT FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE PLANS THAT WERE [00:20:09] SUBMITTED, WERE 438 05 MARIAH CIRCLE, WHICH IS A PROPERTY THAT'S NOT EVEN WITHIN THE CITY JURISDICTION. MR. GRANT CAN CONFIRM THAT. IN THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND SHOW WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE CONTRACTOR. SHE HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. MR. GRANT? >> GOOD MORNING. YES, I WAS PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION THIS MORNING. I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND THE PLANS -- THEY ARE REFLECTING A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. THEY HAVE THE 3207 ADDRESS ON THEM. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT -- NOT THE SITE THAT WE ARE REFERRING TO. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? >> I REVIEWED THE SET OF PLANS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN BY, I GUESS, MR. ROLAND. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS. THE -- THE STREETS ON THE PROPERTY ARE MARIAH CIRCLE ON NORTH 39TH STREET AND NORTH 38TH STREET. SO THIS IS NOT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> I WILL BRING IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: BEFORE YOU PROCEED, YOU CAME IN LATE. FOR USE ONE? >> NO, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: MADAME CLERK. >>THE CLERK: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. >> WANDA. >>THE CLERK: (SWEARING IN OF THE WITNESS). >> YES, I DO. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. CONTINUE, MR. COSTS. >> I HAD SPOKE TO ROLAND ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND I ASKED HIM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HE SAID HE WAS TRYING TO GET THE PERMITTED PLANS INTO THE OFFICE FOR THE PERMITTING. AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW. THE PLANS HERE ARE SHOWING A CARPORT AND THE CONTAINERS WHERE THEY ARE DOING THE WORKOUTS. AND THERE IS SUCH WORK GOING ON AT 3207 AVENUE D, BUT THIS SET OF PLANS CAN'T WORK BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- IS NOT DESCRIBING, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECT ADDRESS AND PROPERTY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IF I MAY? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: SURE. >> THE PLANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THAT YOU ARE SAYING OR FOR MARIAH COURT, 3805 MARIAH CIRCLE, I'M SORRY. SHOWS AN L-SHAPED BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? ALONG WITH SOME OTHER STRUCTURES, WAS AN L-SHAPED BUILDING THAT RUNS MARIAH CIRCLE? AND THAT -- IF WE SWITCH BACK OVER TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, JUST FOR COMPARISON OF THIS PROPERTY VERSUS THE PROPERTY WHERE THE VIOLATION EXISTS. WILL THIS IS 3805 MARIAH CIRCLE. THIS IS THE L-SHAPED BUILDING THAT'S DEPICTEDON THE PLANS. AND THIS, IS THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN CITED AS BEING IN VIOLATION AT 3207 AVENUE D. THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT IN FOR PERMITTING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. THANK YOU. MS. JOSEPH, HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATION? >> I AGREE THAT IS INCORRECT. WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS CONTRACTOR SINCE WE FIRST GOT NOTICE. AFTER THAT -- I MEAN, VERY SHORTLY AFTER THAT IS BEEN LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM. MANY TIMES, ALL OF OUR -- ALL OF THE OWNERS -- THERE'S THREE OF US AND WE'VE ALL BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT TO HIM TO FIND OUT WAS GOING ON. WE TRUSTED OUR CONTRACTOR TO TAKE CARE ALL OF THIS. IT WASN'T UNTIL AFTER I GOT THE LETTER ABOUT THE FEES AND I RESPONDED, VERY SHORTLY AFTER THAT, SOMEONE DID GET IN CONTACT -- WAS ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM. AND YOU KNOW, HE JUST -- IT JUST SEEMED LIKE WE ALWAYS GOT A MYRIAD OF ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE A MISTAKE -- THIS IS MOST RECENT. THEY MADE A MISTAKE. I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THAT BEFORE. UNTIL THIS PAST WEEK, I BELIEVE. [00:25:04] MY ENGINEER MADE A MISTAKE. HE PUT THE WRONG ADDRESS. HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN, I HAVE NO IDEA. I DO NOT HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT. HOWEVER, WAS INFORMED THIS MORNING THAT HE GOT APARTMENT. WALLY WAS AN ISSUE THE PERMIT BUT HE HAD THE PERMIT NUMBER. I GUESS HE WENT AHEAD AND APPLIED FOR IT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> ME, WE PAID OUR CONTRACTOR TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THIS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FOLLOW-UP AND IT'S REALLY BEEN DIFFICULT TO REACH THEM. NOW THAT WE ARE IN DEEP TROUBLE, HE FINALLY PICKED UP THE PHONE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: MR. GRANT, IS THE NAME OF THE CONTRACTOR ON THAT DOCUMENT? >> YES, MA'AM. IT'S GEORGE AND ASSOCIATES. AND THEN STONY ELECTRIC. >> OKAY. >> MY CONTRACTOR? >> YES. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR THE CONTRACTOR? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: SHOWED THAT TO -- >> ROLLING -- I BELIEVE IS STONY ELECTRIC GEORGE AND ASSOCIATES, I DO NOT KNOW HOW ROLAND AND -- >> I DO NOT KNOW THOSE PEOPLE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> YES, MA'AM. I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THE CASE IT WAS PRESENTED BECAUSE -- I WAS NOTIFIED THAT WE ARE HAVING THE MEETING. THERE'S A LETTER FROM THE -- WE BROTHERS ENTERPRISE AND THEY ARE ASKING WELL, THE LETTER WE GOT. I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. >> THIS IS WHERE RESPONDING REGARDING THE RESPONSE TO THE MASSEY LETTER REQUESTING THIS HEARING. WHICH IS DATED MAY 11, 2020. >> WE RESENT LETTER? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID WITH IT NOW. >> IS IN THE FILE. >> THERE'S A LETTER ASKING FOR REDUCED FINES. >> YES, SIR. >> I DO NOT HAVE THE. THERE IT IS. THAT LETTER. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WAS IT MENTIONED? DID ANYBODY MENTION THAT YET? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: I'M ONLY LOOKING AT WHAT I HAVE HERE ON MY INFORMATION SHEET. >> THAT WAS THE RESPONDED LETTER REQUESTING A MASSEY HEARING ASKING FOR THE FINES TO BE REDUCED. AS YOU ARE AWARE, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE FINES CANNOT BE CONSIDERED UNTIL THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETING IS TO DETERMINE IF THE FUND SHOULD BE TEMPORARILY STOPPED TO ALLOW YOU ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PERMITTING. WHILE I AM SYMPATHETIC FOR YOUR ISSUES THAT YOU ARE HAVING WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR, IT -- IT HAS PUT US IN A PREDICAMENT THAT AFTER -- ALMOST A YEAR OF THIS VIOLATION, BE IT ONGOING, THAT WE ARE NO CLOSER TO YOU IN COMPLIANCE. HOW MUCH MORE TIME WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A PERMIT? >> WELL, I HAVE A PERMIT NUMBER THAT YOU GAVE ME WHERE YOU SAID YOU GUYS HAVE NUMBER HERE. >> CORRECT. THIS SET OF PLANS IS ASSOCIATED WITH A PERMIT NUMBER. THIS PERMIT WILL NOT BE APPROVED AS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED. SINCE IS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED THAN WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED. LIKE I SAID, THESE REVISIONS WERE SUBMITTED YESTERDAY. THEY HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH A FULL REVIEW. BUT THEY WILL BE REJECTED. ONCE THEY BEEN REJECTED THE CONTRACT WILL BE SUPPLIED WITH REJECTION COMMENTS, WHICH THEY CAN REPLY TO. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER, MR. GREINKE. >> I JUST APOLOGIZE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU DON'T HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. >> I'M NOT AN EXPERT AT THE STUFF. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD FROM WHERE I SIT. OKAY? MS. JOSEPH, YOU ARE IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION. I CANNOT ENTERTAIN, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE FINES BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. I CAN ISSUE A STAY OF THE FINES TO STOP THEM FROM ACCRUING, BUT DESPITE YOUR EFFORTS, REALLY RELUCTANT TO DO THAT. AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. [00:30:05] THIS IS PRETTY MUCH HURRICANE ALLEY. THERE IS WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM IRMA. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE DILIGENT ABOUT DEALING WITH THESE CONTRACTORS. AND I THINK ALL OF US WHO HAVE DEALT WITH ANY KIND OF HOME REPAIRS KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME GOOD ONES OUT THERE WILL COME INTO THE WORK THAT THEY CONTRACTED TO DO AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO DON'T. THEY COLLECT AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN -- AND I DO NOT KNOW YOUR FINANCIAL OBLIGATION WITH THIS PERSON. BUT THEY GET WHAT THEY CAN AND THEY LEAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LIMBO. SO, -- AND I DO NOT NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO BUT I THINK YOU ARE A BUSINESSWOMAN. I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THIS GOING. >> UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THIS IS 6/16. HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO DO, COUNSELOR. IF AMOUNT OF ORDER, LET ME KNOW. I WILL STAY THE FINES, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO START THIS DAY OF THE FINES FROM ACCRUING UNTIL JUNE 30. WHICH MEANS FROM TODAY UNTIL JUNE 30, THOSE FINES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RUN. BUT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, IS GIVING YOU TIME TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTOR. AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. SO, -- I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF PUTTING A LITTLE PRESSURE ON YOU. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> TO PUT PRESSURE ON HIM BECAUSE WHAT HE SUBMITTED HERE, ISN'T EVEN -- ISN'T EVEN FOR YOUR PROPERTY. IT'S FOR ANOTHER BUILDING. >> AND HE KNOWS THAT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO RUN THROUGH JUNE 30 AND THEN AFTERWARDS, HOPEFULLY, BY THEN HE WILL HAVE GOTTEN A PERMIT OR A DRAWING THAT THE CITY WILL ACCEPT BECAUSE ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON. MR. COST? >> YES, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. AND YOU WILL GO FROM THERE. AS I SAID TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE EARLIER, I WORKED WITH MEMBERS HERE FOR A WHILE AND I KNOW THEY REALLY TRY TO HELP PEOPLE. SO YOU NEED TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO REALLY BE IN TOUCH WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR AND AFTER YOU GET THINGS UP AND GOING, THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE YOU CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE FINES THAT HAVE ACCRUED. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, JUST TO BE CLEAR YOUR ORDER TAKES EFFECT ON JUNE 30. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES. >> AS FAR AS THE STAY IS CONCERNED. >> AS. >> DO YOU WANT TO SEE THIS CASE BACK? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AM HOPING EVERYBODY WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE. HE WANTED TO COME BACK AND WE CAN DO A REVIEW? >> I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO DO A REVIEW. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, STAFF WOULD RISK WEST THAT IF FOR SOME REASON DEPARTMENT IS NOT ISSUED BY JUNE 30, THAT THIS HEARING WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE YOU AND YOUR NEXT HEARING, WHICH IS JULY 21. IF THE PERMIT IS ISSUED THAT WE CAN PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? >> YES, SIR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT CASE? [D. 19-2948 2625 Heathcote Dr Unit 2601 Green Oaks Place of Ft Pierce Inc Paul Julin] >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT CASE IS 5D, CASE NUMBER 19-2948. 2625 HEATHCOTE DRIVE UNIT 2601, GREEN OAKS PLAY SUPPORT PEERS, INCORPORATED IS THE OWNER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WHAT NUMBER IS THAT, MADAME CLERK? >>THE CLERK: IT IS 5 D. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: 5 D. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MR. JULIAN. >>MR. JULIN: GOOD MORNING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. WHEN YOU'RE READY. >>MR. JULIN: SO THE SUBJECT [00:35:11] NUMBER IS 19-Ã2948. THE ADDRESS IS 2625 HEATHCOTE DRIVE, UNIT 2601. AT GREEN OAKS PLACE OF FORT PIERCE INCORPORATED THE CASE WAS INITIATED ON NOVEMBER OF FORT PIERCE INCORPORATED THE CASE WAS INITIATED ON NOVEMBER 4, 2019. AND THE ADDRESS IS SPECIFICALLY IS 1225 SE. PORT ST. LUCIE BOULEVARD, PORT ST. LUCIE -- SORRY. IN FLORIDA ACT 34952. >>THE CLERK: JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT IS THE OWNER'S ADDRESS, CORRECT? THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS IN FORT PIERCE, CORRECT. >>MR. JULIN: CORRECT. >>THE CLERK: OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. >> AND LET'S SEE, THE AGENT WAS MARJORIE MINDEL AND AT 445 NW. BUENA VISTA BOULEVARD, PORT ST. LUCIE FLORIDA, 34983. THE VIOLATION IS SECTION 5-1.105.1 PERMIT REQUIRED. THE CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR INTERIOR DEMOLITION, FRAMING AND OTHER RENOVATION WORK IN UNIT 2601. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: 2601. >> YES. I'M SORRY. DACA. THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY REQUEST THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THAT VIOLATIONS EXIST, THE VIOLATOR OR VIOLATORS BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, ALSO TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE PERMIT CONDITIONS AND CURE ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOT REQUIRING A PERMIT OR A FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. >> DID YOU TAKE ANY PHOTOGRAPHS, MR. JULIN? >>MR. JULIN: YES, MA'AM. >> TODAY FAIRLY AND ACCURATELY DEPICT WHAT YOU SAW? >>MR. JULIN: YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE A RESPONDENT PRESENT I ASKED THAT HE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREEN. SO THAT HE CAN SEE WHAT PHOTOGRAPHS WE INTEND TO ENTER. IS IT JUST THE TWO? >> I WAS LOOKING AT THE CAMERA. IS THERE ONE BEFORE THIS. >> I CNA IN A B. >> THOSE OF THE TWO PICTURES. >> AND AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD MOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN A CITIES COMPOSITE 1. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THEY WILL BE ADMITTED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE ONE. ANYTHING FURTHER. >> NO MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. IN SIR, YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY SWORN. >> YES, SIR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATION? >> FIRST I'M A STATE CERTIFIED BUILDING CONTRACTOR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WHAT IS YOUR NAME. >> ANDREW NASLUND. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PARTIES? >> OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. I BUILT THE BUILDINGS. AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS WE HAD A PRETTY FAIR AMOUNT OF WATER DAMAGE AND AT THE TIME, I WENT AHEAD AND REMOVED AND GUARDED THE DRYWALL THE CABINETRY AND DRYWALL DUE TO THE DAMAGE. THERE WAS NO FRAMING CHANGED. IN THE UNIT AT ALL. IT WAS STRICTLY FINISHES, SO CABINETS AND INTERIOR DOORS AND DRYWALL. THE -- ON ONE OF THE OLDEST PERMIT HOLDERS IN THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE, MARTIN IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I'VE NEVER HAD TO A POLE AND APPLY FOR AN ACTUAL DEVILDEMO PERMIT FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE DRYWALL. THAT SOMETHING I WASN'T AWARE THAT THE CITY FORT PIERCE DOES HAVE. AT THE TIME WHEN I HAD THE DAMAGE, I WENT AHEAD AND GUIDED IT AND CLEANED UP THE SIDE AS FAST AS I COULD TO PREVENT ANY MOLD. BUT THEN I NOT TOO LONG AGO RECEIVED -- A WHILE BACK -- THAT I DID NEED A PERMIT TO REMOVE DRYWALL. I JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET ITGET IN AND APPLY FOR. I WAS GOING TO DO AND AFTER THE [00:40:11] FACT PERMIT AND BE DONE WITH IT THEN COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE HEAD AND IT'S JUST BEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY IT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. HAVE YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT? >> FOR THIS PARTICULAR UNIT, NO, MA'AM.. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: RIGHT. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> I HAVE A RESPONSE JUST FOR CLARITY. SO TYPICALLY, ON A COMMERCIAL RENOVATION THERE IS THE REMOVAL OF DRYWALL IS INCLUDED IN THE SAME PERMIT. IN THIS CASE, SINCE THE WORK STARTED BEFORE A PERMIT WAS ISSUED, THE WORK THAT WAS CITED WAS SPECIFICALLY DEMOLITION OF DRYWALL. WE CAN'T CITE YOU FOR REPLACING THE DRYWALL SINCE I WASN'T DONE YET. SO THAT'S WHAT THE NOTICES FOR BUT CERTAINLY, WHEN YOU DO COME IN FOR A PERMIT, THE REMOVAL WILL BE PART OF THE REPLACEMENT. >> WILL THIS FALL UNDER THIS ONE PERMIT? >> AS QUICK SO I JUST DO DEMO AND DRYWALL REPLACEMENT? >> CORRECT. >> AND YOU SIGN UP THE SCREW PATTERN, IS THAT IT? >> RIGHT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? >> BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED I FIND THAT A VIOLATION EXISTS AT 2625 HEATHCOTE DRIVE UNIT 2601. AND THAT GREEN OAKS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. GREEN OAKS IS REPRESENTED THIS MORNING BY MR. ANDREW NASLUND. YOU WILL BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT AND OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED AND COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE PERMIT CONDITIONS AND CURE OTHER VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT OR BE FINED $100 PER DAY. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL MY DECISION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> HAVE A GREAT DAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THE NEXT CASE? >> THE NEXT CASE IS 5F, CASE [F. 19-3024 308 S 24th Street Caldwell, Nava Paul Julin] NUMBER 19 Ã3024. 308 S. 24TH STREET ALTHOUGH CALDWELL -- CALDWELL IS THE OWNER. >> GOOD MORNING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GOOD MORNING. >> MORROW. >> MR. JULIN, YOU MAY PROCEED. >>MR. JULIN: THIS IS A CASE OF 19 -Ã-Ã3024. THE ADDRESS IS 308 S. 24TH STREET. NAVA CALDWELL. THE CASE WAS INITIATED NOVEMBER 12, 2019. TWO NAVA CALDWELL AT PO BOX 6211, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA 33141. THIS -- THE VIOLATION, IS SECTION 5-1.105.1 PERMIT REQUIRED. THE CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR ALL BUILDING AND PLUMBING WORK BEING DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT. THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE VIOLATIONS EXIST, THE VIOLATOR OR VIOLATORS BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, AND COMPLETELY -- AND EXCUSE ME AND COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMITS CONDITIONS AND TO CURE ALL OTHER VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT OR FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. AND THEN FURTHER? >>MR. JULIN: NO, MA'AM. >> SIR, DID YOU TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS. >> YES. >> INTO THEY DEPICT WHAT YOU SAW? >>MR. JULIN: YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY. AND DO THEY DEPICT THE VIOLATION THAT IS ALLEGED TODAY? >> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY. SIR, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN? >> YES. >> SO AT THIS TIME WE WOULD MOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN AS CITY'S COMPOSITE ONE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THEY WILL BE ADMITTED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE 1. [00:45:02] ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: SIR, HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATION? >> YES. WE DID HIRE ANDREW CONSTRUCTION TO REMEDY THE SITUATION. HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE HAD A COURT DATE, BUT I SPOKE WITH HIM YESTERDAY. WE DID SOME MIDDAY -- HE SAID THAT THEY DID SUBMIT A PERMIT. THE CITY HAS REQUESTED, I THINK, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THE ENGINEERING AND THE ARCHITECT ARE WORKING ON THE PLANS AS WE SPEAK AND WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION TO PRESENT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, MA'AM.. WE JUST WANT TO RESOLVE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AND YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE PERMIT? >> YES, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> THEY DID APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. I GUESS THEY -- WHAT HE TOLD ME IS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR REVISION ON THAT MATTER. IN THE WORKING ON IT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED, FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS. AND THAT NOVEL CALDWELL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. I GIVE HER 60 DAYS -- OR HIM -- TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS UNTIL 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, COMPLY WITH PERMIT CONDITIONS ENSURE ALL VIOLATIONS OR A FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME TELL SOME OF THE OTHER PARTIES WERE HERE YOU'VE GOT 180 DAYS TO COMPLY. IF YOU NEED EXTENSIONS, SURE THE CITY WILL WORK WITH YOU. >> WE SHOULD FINISH THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> OKAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. NEW JOB BEGINS: 01:26:52 9:48 AM [H. 19-3187 2001 Orange Ave Casa de Oracion Intl Ft Pierce Inc. Edward Smith] >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THE NEXT CASE, MOUNT CLARK? >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT CASE IS 5 H. 2001 AVENUE. CASA DE ORACION INTERNATIONAL IS THE OWNER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GOOD MORNING, MR. SMITH, AGAIN. >> GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A CASE -- CASE NUMBER 19-3187. IT'S A 2001 ORANGE AVENUE, CASA DE ORACION INTERNATIONAL. THE CASE WAS INITIATED NOVEMBER 21, 2019. THE OWNER IS CASA DE ORACION INTERNATIONAL -- THAT HE SAY THAT? -- JOSC MARTINEZ AT CASTANEDA. 1118 ROSEDALE AVENUE, FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. 34982. ROGERS CHING AGENT IS CELLO DIAZ. 722 PARKSIDE POINTE BOULEVARD, APOPKA FLORIDA, 32712. THE VIOLATION IS SECTION 5-1.105.1 PERMIT REQUIRED. THE CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR CHANGE OF USE. [00:50:09] AND 2, OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STAGE AND ALL OTHER WORK REQUIRING A PERMIT. THE RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATORS WILL BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, COMPLY WITH ALL PERMIT CONDITIONS AND CURE ALL OTHER VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED. THE ORDER NOT REQUIRING A PERMIT OR A FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, CAN I INQUIRE? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES. >> DID YOU TAKE PICTURES? >> YES, HE DID. >> OKAY. DO THEY FAIRLY AND ACCURATELY DEPICT WHAT YOU SAW? >> YES. >> OKAY. I'M JUST NOTING THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE BEING SHOWN ON THE SCREEN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESPONDENT. AND AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD MOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN AS CITY'S COMPOSITE 1 AND I WOULD INQUIRE OF MR. SMITH IF THE PHOTOGRAPHS DEPICT THE VIOLATION ALLEGED. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THIS WILL BE ADMITTED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE 1. ANYTHING FURTHER, MR. SMITH? >> NO, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WE HAVE TWO GENTLEMEN HEARING BOTH ARE YOU GOING TO TESTIFY? >> YES. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN, RIGHT? >> YES. SO WE SUBMITTED THE PLANS BACK IN NOVEMBER, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE WHAT WAS HAPPENING DOWN AND BUILDING. I GUESS THEY WEREN'T OPENED UP UNTIL LATER, FEBRUARY, WHEN WE WENT BACK FOR MEETING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> JOSC MARTINEZ. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> SO THEN, IN LATE FEBRUARY, THAT'S WHEN THE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED TO AND I GUESS, TO 1/3 PARTY FOR REVIEW OF THE PLANS THAT WE SUBMITTED. AND THEY WENT BACK FOR REVISION. WE GOT IT SENT BACK IN ABOUT MARCH AND THEN THE SECOND REVISION CAME BACK IN MAY. AND SO, NOW WE ARE JUST FINALIZING EVERYTHING. THEY ARE ASKING FOR JUST SOME MORE SPECIFIC ELKS -- CALCULATIONS -- MY ENGINEERS WORKING ON THAT NOW AND HE'LL HAVE THAT THE REVISION SENDEN. I HAVE HERE IN THE PLANS FOR THE PERMIT -- FOR THE CHANGE OF USE AND ALSO FOR THE PERMIT FOR THE STAGE AS WELL. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. HAS BUILDING SAW HIS PLANS? >> WE HAVE, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. WHEN THESE PLANS FIRST CAME IN, DID NOT INCLUDE THE CHANGE OF USE. IT WAS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE PERMIT SUBMITTAL. DO TO OUR PERMIT LOW, WE DID SEND THESE PLANS OUT TO PERMIT LOW, WE DID SEND THESE PLANS OUT TO 1/3 -- 1/3 PARTY. THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE CHANGE OF USE OF THE WAS COMMUNICATION GOING BACK AND FORTH THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE DELAY. THE REVISIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEW AS THE RESPONDENT INDICATED. >> FIRST WE -- IT CLEARLY SET ON THEIR, REMODELED CHURCH BUT LIKE HE SAID THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A CHURCH. BUT IT WAS -- IT WAS STATED ON THEIR THAT IT WAS FOR A CHURCH. BUT LIKE HE SAID, THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. WELL DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT ENTIRELY SOMETHING THAT WAS WILLFUL AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT, YOU WOULD THINK THEY WILL BE READY BY 30 DAYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN AND IF THERE COMPLIANCE? >> I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CHECK. I BELIEVE WERE WAITING ON REVISIONS TO BE RESUBMITTED, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THEY ASKED FOR SPECIFIC CALCULATIONS ON ELECTRICAL. THEY ALSO ASKED FOR -- I HAVE THE LETTER HERE FROM THE ENGINEER WHAT THEY ASKED FOR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WANT ME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? >> YES. THIS LETTER STATES EVERYTHING FOR THE THIRD REVISION. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, MR. SMITH? LET MR. SMITH TAKE [00:55:01] A LOOK AT IT. >> KNOW MY ENGINEER SEMI-THAT. THAT JUST STATES THE -- THAT STATES THAT THE THIRD PROVISION WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING AND HE STATING THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT NOW AS WE SPEAK. AND SO I SHOULD HAVE THAT SOMETIME VERY SOON. HE'S JUST VERY BUSY. (LAUGHING). >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THAT LETTER IS DATED JUNE 12, 2020 SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THE REVISIONS WILL BE SUBMITTED. NOT KNOWING HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET THE REVISIONS, I'M NOT POSITIVE THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM REVIEWED WITHIN 30 DAYS. IT MAY BE BETTER TO CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR 60 DAYS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAY I SEE THE LETTER? >> YES, YOUR HONOR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. I HAVEN'T HEARD THE TESTIMONY FROM MR. CASTANEDA AND ALSO TESTIMONY FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WILL CONTINUE THIS FOR 60 DAYS SO THAT YOU HOPEFULLY -- YOUR APPLICATION WILL GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THE CHANGES. SO HAVE -- I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THIS FOR 60 DAYS. IF ALL GO WELLS -- WELL -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COMING BACK. IF NOT I SUGGEST YOU GET WITH MR. SMITH SO THAT YOU ALL CAN FURTHER DISCUSS THIS AND SEED -- SEE -- WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT. BUT YOU HAVE 60 DAYS CONTINUANCE. OKAY? THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A LARGE AC UNIT ON TOP OF MY ROOF AND IT'S BEEN RAINING LIKE HELL FOR THESE PAST -- THESE DAYS -- AND WATER IS LEAKING AND LEAKING. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN REPAIR TO STOP FOR MY BUILDING GOING -- BOWLING DOWN? I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE AND EVERYTHING BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I WILL HAVE IT VERY SOON BUT I'M JUST WORRIED THAT THE WATER IS COMING IN EVERYWHERE. AND SO, I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING FOR -- I'VE BEEN REQUESTING SINCE NOVEMBER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GET WITH MR. COSS AND MR. SMITH AND THEY CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. THANKS FOR COMING. MADAME CLERK? >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT CASE WILL BE 6 A, AND THE RESPONDENT ASKED TO BE FOUND. SO IT'S CASE NUMBER 19-204, AND 11 N. 13TH. >> WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT ONE IF WE CAN DO THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: MR. CHIN IS HERE. [B. 19-560 106 N 29th Street Chen, Qing Shaun Coss] >>THE CLERK: SO WE WILL DO 6B, 19 Ã560, ADDRESS 106 N. 29TH STREET, MR. CHEN IS THE OWNER. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THINK MR. COST MIGHT BE PRESENTING THIS ONE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HE'S READY. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THAT'S OKAY. >> THIS IS CASE 19-564 106 N. 29TH STREET. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY MR. CHEN OF 4627 ARTHUR STREET PALM BEACH GARDENS FLORIDA 33418. THE VIOLATIONS OF THE PROPERTY ARE SECTION 5-1.105.1 PERMIT REQUIRED. THIS MATTER CAME BEFORE YOU JULY 17, 2019. A 90 DAY EXTENSION OF TIME WAS GRANTED ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2019. AN AFFIDAVIT OF NONCOMPLIANCE WAS RECORDED JANUARY 3, 2020. AFTER A PERMIT HAD NOT BEEN ISSUED. AS YOU MAY RECALL THIS CASE CAME BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES. >> IT WAS CONTINUE FOR 30 DAYS TO RELY ON MICHALOWSKI RESPONDENT ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PERMITTING. AS OF YESTERDAY, NO PERMIT REVISIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE RESPONDENT THIS MORNING FOR AN UPDATE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU HAVE NOT? >> I HAVE NOT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ALL RIGHT, MR. CHEN? YOU HAVE SOME UPDATED INFORMATION FOR US. >> YES. YES. >> SINCE THE LAST MONTH, THE [01:00:01] ENGINEER ASKED ME FOR THE -- FOR THE TOTAL -- THE TOPIC GRAPHIC, SO I GOT ON THE 19TH OF LAST MONTH. SO I SUBMITTED TO THE ENGINEER GUY, THE -- I MEAN, THE JUDGMENT TO HAVE UPDATED. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES. >> I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM. I TEXT HIM YESTERDAY TO SEE IF YOU HAVE IS THE UPDATE FOR ME TO DO THE PERMIT. I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM YET. SO, -- AND -- AND I -- I HAD TO LOOK THROUGH A DIFFERENT -- MAY BE ENGINEER TO DO -- TO REDO EVERYTHING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: WHEN YOU TALK TO THE ENGINEERS, >> KNOW. >> NOW THE ENGINEER, THE ENGINEER TO DO THE DRAWING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOUR ENGINEER? >> YES. HE -- ON THE ON 19 MAY, I ALREADY SENT HIM THE STUFF, THE -- THE FORT PIERCE ENGINEER ASKED ME TO DO IT. SO I ALREADY SUBMITTED TO HIM WHILE I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN HIS UPDATE PLAN YET. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. DOES THE CITY HAVE A POSITION ON THIS. I KNOW MR. CHEN HAS BEEN TRYING IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBOD COMING BEFORE ME HAS A. >> I PAY HIM ON JANUARY 15 TO -- TO GET THE PLANS DONE. SO I -- YEAH. I HAVEN'T -- STILL HAVEN'T GOT HIM TO GIVE ME AN UPDATE YET. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: TRENCH WILL HELP YOU WITH THIS ONE. >> TEMPLE RECOMMEND THE FINAL 30 DAY STAY OF THE PINES. AT THE END OF THE 30 DAYS, IF THE PERMIT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE PINES BE RESTARTED AND THE LIEN BE IMPOSED. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DID YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID, MR. CHEN? >> NO. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HE'S ASKING THAT I GRANT YOU ANOTHER 30 DAY OF THE FINES. BUT AFTER THAT, IF YOU'RE NONCOMPLIANCE, THE FINES WILL ACCRUE -- BEGAN TO ACCRUE AGAIN. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING HARD AND I LISTEN TO A NUMBER OF STORIES AND CONTRACTORS. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO STAY ON SIDE -- IT WOULD BE A WISE THING TO DO. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. RIGHT NOW THE FINES ARE $4630. I STOP THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER 30 DAY STAY. BUT PLEASE BE ON THE SIDE AND LET HIM/HER KNOW SO THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS MATTER. YOU'VE GOT 30 DAYS ONLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> 30 DAYS TO DO A PERMIT? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET WITH STAFF SO THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING HARD AT IT. BUT THANK YOU. NEW JOB BEGINS: 01:43:27 10:05 AM [C. 19-1283 1411 Havana Avenue B Yas Holdings LLC Paul Julin] >>THE CLERK: WE WILL GO TO 6 C. THAT IS CASE NUMBER 19 Ã1283, 1411 HAVANA AVENUE D. YAS HOLDINGS, LLC IS THE OWNER. >> THIS IS CASE 19-1283 FOUR 1411 AVENUEHAPPENED HAVANA AVENUE B. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY YAS HOLDINGS, LLC. THE VIOLATIONS ARE THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 304.7 ROOTS AND DRAINAGE, 305.3 INTERIOR SURFACE AND 506.2 SANITARY DRAINAGE SYSTEM MAINTENANCE. THIS MATTER CAME BEFORE YOU OCTOBER 18, 2019. AN AFFIDAVIT OF NONCOMPLIANCE WAS RECORDED JANUARY 3, 2020. AND THIS MATTER CAME INTO COMPLIANCE MAY 7, 2020. [01:05:09] I'M SORRY. THIS ACTUALLY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE APRIL 30, 2020. THE AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLAINTS WAS RECORDED ON MAY 7, 2020. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE FINES ARE $11,830 WITH $30 BEING RECORDING FEES. THE RESPONDENT HAS REQUESTED A FINE REDUCTION. THE RESPONDENT REQUESTED THAT THE FINES BE REDUCED TO $618. STAFF HAS CALCULATED THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF THIS MATTER TO BE TO BE $1123.98. THERE ARE THREE CRITERIA TO CONSIDER FOR THIS FINE REDUCTION. ONE THE GRAVITY OR SERIOUSNESS OF THE VIOLATION IS MODERATE. 2 ANY AND ALL ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE VIOLATOR TO CORRECT THE VIOLATIONS OR IF THE VIOLATIONS WERE NOT CORRECTED BY THE ORIGINAL VIOLATOR, WHAT ACTION WAS TAKEN BY ANY OTHER OWNER OR PARTY WAS INTEREST TO BRING THE VIOLATION INTO COMPLIANCE, ALL VIOLATION ISSUES FOR IMPLIED. IN 3, THE NUMBER OF TIMES VIOLATOR WAS PREVIOUSLY FOUND A VIOLATION BY EITHER THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OR OTHER QUASIJUDICIAL OR JUDICIAL PROCESS OR OTHERWISE ADMITTED GUILT IN ANY SUCH PROCEEDING HAS BEEN NONE. AFTER CONSIDERING THIS, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO REDUCE THE FINE TO $750, THAT WOULD ADEQUATELY COVER THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU WERE NOT HERE WE STARTED. WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, STATE YOUR NAME AND BE SWORN BY THE COURT. >> (SWEARING IN OF THE WITNESS) . >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DID YOU HEAR THE REPRESENTATION MADE BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE? >> YES. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THEY ARE AGREEING TO REDUCE THE FINE FROM $11,830 TO 750. ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT OR NOT? >> YES. THAT'S FAIR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THIS IS A FINE REDUCTION? >> YES, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, YOUR HONOR. IT'S FAIR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. THEN BASED ON THE STIPULATIONS BETWEEN THE PARTIES, ALL REDUCE THE FINE TO $750. HOW MUCH TIME DO NEED TO PAY THAT? >> NO. THE REGULAR 30 DAYS OR PROBABLY BEFORE, BUT JUST IN CASE BECAUSE TODAY YOU SAID THE CHECK OR YOU -- THE PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS ARE VERY -- SO, I DUNNO. WHAT'S THE -- ONLINE? SENDING A REGULAR CHECK IN THE MAIL? I MEAN, WE USED TO, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO DO IT ONLINE, BUT. >> YOU WILL HAVE 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE ORDER. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PAY ONLINE VIA CREDIT CARD, WE CAN DO THAT IF YOU WANT TO COORDINATE THAT WITH ELIZABETH. >> YEAH. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AND I CAUTION YOU. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO PAY THE $750. IF YOU DON'T PAY WITHIN THAT TIME, THEN THE FINE WILL REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT OF $11,830. SO MAKE SURE YOU GET PAID WITHIN A 30 DAY PERIOD OF TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEW JOB BEGINS: 01:48:30 10:10 AM >> IF YOU COULD PROVIDE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO ELIZABETH. THANK YOU. NEW JOB BEGINS: 01:48:42 10:10 AM. [A. 18-1524 1005 Ohio Ave Pacheco, Lisa M. Chase Shaun Coss] >>THE CLERK: CAN WE CALL LETTERS -- 7 A 18-1524, LISA PACHECO? >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES, WE CAN. >> THIS IS CASE 18 Ã15244 1005 OHIO AVENUE. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY LISA CHASE PACHECO OF THE SAME ADDRESS. THE VIOLATIONS ARE SECTION 5-1.105.1 PERMIT REQUIRED. THIS MATTER CAME BEFORE YOU HENRY 16, 2019. A 90 DAY EXTENSION OF TIME WAS GRANTED ON MARCH 18, 2019. AN AFFIDAVIT OF NONCOMPLIANCE WAS RECORDED JUNE 17, 2019. AN [01:10:04] AFFIDAVIT ORDER ASSESSING THE UNIMPOSING LIEN WAS RECORDED DECEMBER 9, 2019. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY IN THIS PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY OWNER HIRED AN AC CONTRACTOR TO REPLACE HER AC UNIT. UNKNOWINGLY TO HER, THE CONTRACTOR NEVER OBTAINED A PERMIT. HE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT, BUT NEVER PICKED UP THE PERMIT. THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS SENT TO MS. PACHECO WHEN SHE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT SHE ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR. THE CONTRACTOR HAD GONE OUT OF BUSINESS. AND AT THAT POINT, SHE HAD TO OBTAIN A PERMIT HERSELF. SHE MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT WHEN SHE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT IN JUNE SHE MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT WHEN SHE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT IN JUNE 2019, THAT THAT SATISFIED THE VIOLATION. SO IT WAS NOT UNTIL ONCE THE FINES STARTED AND THE LIEN WAS IMPOSED THAT SHE BECAME AWARE THAT SHE NEVER CALLED IN THE INSPECTION FOR THE PERMIT. SO IT WAS NEVER COMPLIED WITH. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES HERE CONSIDERING THE CONTRACTOR -- OR LACK OF INVOLVEMENT. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED THAT THE FINE BE REDUCED, RESCINDED COMPLETELY TO ZERO DOLLARS. AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN THIS CASE. STAFF IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE $1672.74. THERE ARE SEVEN CRITERIA IN CONSIDERING ONLY REJECTION THE GRAVITY OR SERIOUSNESS OF THE VIOLATION IS MINIMAL. ANY AND ALL ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE VIOLATOR TO CORRECT THE VIOLATIONS. THE OWNER RENEW DEPARTMENT AND GOT THE NECESSARY FINAL INSPECTIONS. 3 THE LENGTH OF TIME NECESSARY TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WAS ONE YEAR EIGHT MONTHS. 4 THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE VIOLATOR WAS PREVIOUSLY FOUND IN VIOLATION TO EITHER THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OR OTHER ON-SITE JUDICIAL OR JUDICIAL PROCESS OR OTHERWISE ADMITTED GUILT IN ANY SUCH PROCEEDING WAS NONE. 5 THE NUMBER OF VIOLATION NOTICES THE VIOLATOR RECEIVED IN THE PAST AS WELL AS HER NATURE AND FINAL DISPOSITION OF EACH NOTICE WAS NONE. 6 WHETHER THERE WERE EXTENUATING FACTORS SUCH AS UNAVOIDABLE PERSONAL HARDSHIP. THE OWNER THOUGHT THAT HE CONTRACTOR TOOK CARE OF THE PERMITTING AND THE CONTRACTOR SUBSEQUENTLY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. A 7, WHETHER TO WHAT EXTENT ARE APPENDED VIOLATION PROCEEDINGS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY WITH -- WITHIN THE CITY BY THE RESPONDENT THERE WERE NONE. CONSIDERING THESE FACTORS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO REDUCE THE LIEN TO $672.74. THAT WOULD BE WAVING THIS THOUSAND DOLLAR FEE FOR THE 20 MONTHS THAT THE CASE WAS OPEN. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NOTED THIS TIME. THANK YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS LISA PACHECO. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE STATES -- THE CITY'S OFFER OF THE FINE BEING REDUCED TO $672. >> I THINK IT'S FAIR. IT'S BEEN GOOD. THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TO DEAL WITH AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT (LAUGHING). SO, I THINK THAT IS FAIR. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> I WISH SOMETHING COULD BE DONE TO THE CONTRACTOR, YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH EGGS LIKE THIS. THEY GET A LICENSE FROM FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, THE STATE AND THEN THEY GET TO DO THIS TO PEOPLE. IT'S BEEN A ROLLER COASTER RIDE. BUT I'VE LEARNED A LOT I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR. I THINK YOU, SEAN. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ALL RIGHT THEN BASED ON THE STIPULATION BETWEEN THE PARTIES, I WILL REDUCE THE FINE TO $672.74. >> YES, MA'AM. THIS IS ONLY SO WOULD NEED TO GO IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: I THOUGHT YOU SAID LIEN BUT THE FOR SOME REASON I HAD UNDER FINE. OKAY. NO BECAUSE IT IS A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, THIS WILL GO BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL. YOU WILL GET A COURT DATE. MADAME CLERK WILL TELL YOU WHEN THAT DATE IS. THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO AND THEIR FEE -- IS IS STILL 250. >> THE $250 IS INCLUDED IN THE 672.74. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEN IT WILL GIVE YOU A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO PAY IT AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU'RE WELCOME. >> MS. PACHECO THIS WILL GO [01:15:07] BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION ON JULY 20. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE THERE. HOWEVER, WE RECOMMEND YOU ARE THERE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL NEED TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. >> THANK YOU. NEW JOB BEGINS: 01:54:51 10:16 AM >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. NEXT CASE IS A. [A. 19-2735 REHEARING 1010 Mayflower Road Vaughn, Alvin & Harris, David Paul Julin] >> WE HAVE 5 A IT'S A REHEARING CASE NUMBER 19 Ã2735, 10 MAYFLOWER ROAD. ALVIN BONNIE AND DAVID HARRIS ARE THE OWNERS. VAUGHN, ALVIN & HARRIS. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THIS CASE ACTUALLY CAME BEFORE YOU BEFORE AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE TITLE, REHEARING. THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION AND I BELIEVE MR. HARRIS WENT TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUILDING. SO, THERE WAS A PRIOR RULING AND WERE ASKING THAT WHATEVER WAS DONE BE REVERSED AND THAT WE START FROM SCRATCH WITH THIS CASE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. BASED ON THAT COMMENT, I WILL VACATE THE PREVIOUS RULING AND WE WILL START ANEW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YES. MR. HARRIS? >> AND MR. HARRIS. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DO I KNOW YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. I JUST WANT TO PUT THE RECORD THAT I KNOW MR. HARRIS BUT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I'M DOING TODAY. I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A LONG TIME. MR. JULIN. >> OKAY. SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT NUMBER IS 19 - 2735. IT'S A REHEARING AT THE ADDRESS OF 1010 MAYFLOWER ROAD. WITH VAUGHN, ALVIN & HARRIS. >> DAVID HARRIS, ALVIN VAUGHN. OKAY. >> THE CASE WAS INITIATED IN OCTOBER >> THE CASE WAS INITIATED IN OCTOBER 17, 2019. IN THE -- LET'S SEE -- SO THE OWNER IS ALVIN L VAUGHN, DAVID L HARRIS WITH THE ADDRESS OF 1907 AVENUE P, FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, 34950. THE VIOLATIONS FROM THE IPMC IS REALLY .1.1, UNSAFE STRUCTURE; 304.1 EXTERIOR STRUCTURE; THROUGH 4.6 EXTERIOR WALL; THROUGH 4.7 ROOFS AND DRAINAGE; AND THROUGH 304.13 WINDOWS, DOORS AND FRAMES. THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WOULD BE TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE ROOF OF THE ROOF STRUCTURE OR DEMOLISH THE REAR STRUCTURE. TO PROPERLY SEAL -- THIS IS NUMBER TWO JUDGMENT PROPERLY SEAL OR COVER ALL HOLES/OPENINGS IN EXISTING WALLS AND ITEM NUMBER THREE WOULD BE TO REPAIR OR REPLACE ALL DAMAGED WINDOWS. SO THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE LINES OF VIOLATION EXIST, BUT THE VIOLATORS BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR APPROVAL OF ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS AND CURE ALL VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOT REQUIRING A PERMIT OR A FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING FURTHER? PHOTOGRAPHS? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY WE HAVE PHOTOS. YES, MA'AM. >> SIR, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK ON THE SCREEN AT ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS? I'M GOING TO JUST SCROLL THROUGH THEM. >> TO WHAT NOW? >> JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM BEFORE WE ENTER THEM INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY? LET US KNOW WHEN YOU ARE DONE. [01:20:06] MR. JULIN, DID YOU TAKE THESE PHOTOGRAPHS. >> I DID. >> DO THEY DEPICT WHAT YOU SAW WHEN YOU TOOK THEM? >> YES. >> LET'S JUST FINISH SCROLLING THROUGH THE LAST FEW. OKAY. SO I'M NOTING ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON A SCREEN TO THE RESPONDENT. AT THIS TIME WE WOULD MOVE THEM IN AS CITY'S COMPOSITE 1. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THEY WILL BE ADMITTED AS IPMC -- AS CITY'S COMPOSITE 1. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, MA'AM. >> CAN I ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE? SO MR. JULIN, THE PICTURES THAT ARE NOW IN EVIDENCE, DO THEY DEPICT ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE ALLEGED. >> YES. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: COUNSELOR? MR. HARRIS, HOW DO YOU RESPOND? >> MY RESPONSES THIS, YOUR HONOR, FIRST OF ALL, I ONLY INHERIT IS THE -- I INHERITED THIS FROM A DECEASED PROPERTY. I TOOK A BUNCH OF JUNK AND WROTE IN YOUR HAND AND SAY THIS WHICH YOU INHERITED. OKAY? IN THIS PROPERTY THAT I INHERITED IT'S NOT MINE COMMENT TO MY BROTHER'S NAME. HE IS MENTALLY ILL. HE'S THE ONE THAT INHERITED IT. I GOT A PROTECT BECAUSE I PROMISED MY MOM I WOULD. I'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO HELP MY BROTHER, NOT MINE, MY BROTHER. I NOTICED THAT THE CITY -- AND THIS IS A FACT -- WAS TRYING TO TAKE THIS PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WANTED IT SO BAD. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY SAY YOU AND WHY TOWN WE DON'T WANT TO AND WHY DO WE DON'T TAKE THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS THE UNDERSTANDING AHEAD. THE PROPERTY IS ON US1 ONE BEHIND THE FUNERAL HOME. AFTER THAT, FROM THAT TIME ON I NOTICE I'VE BEEN GIVEN PICKED ON HARRIS. I HAD THE POLICE MY MOBILE HOME PROPERTY. I GOT THE DOCUMENTS RIGHT HERE, YOUR HONOR. YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH IF YOU NEED TO. THAT'S BECAUSE I'M BLACK. SO THE POINT IS NOW THE GROWING ALL OF THIS ON ME OF ONE TIME SAYING FIX THIS, FIX THAT. NONE OF HIS MIND. I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP MY BROTHER. THEY'VE GOT TO GIVE ME TIME. IN WHAT I'M SAYING IS ALL OF THIS MONEY THAT UP AND SPEND ENOUGH -- OF HAD TO PAINT THE HOUSE. I'VE HAD TO GET THE HOUSE FIXED UP. I DON'T HAVE IT PAID FOR THE WHOLE ELECTRIC COMPONENTS, MR. HEDRICK THERE HAD TO PUT THE WHOLE ELECTRIC COMPONENTS AND EVERYTHING IN THERE FOR ME. I'VE BEEN FIXING -- CATCHING CONCRETE ALL SET THEY LEFT ON THE PROPERTY. I'VE BEEN -- THEIR STRONG ALL THIS BURDEN ON ME. NOW THEY MIGHT -- SOMEBODY JUST NEED TO ROUNDED VIOLATED AND THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT GUY SAID EARLIER. THEIR SNEAKING ON YOUR PROPERTY, TAKING PICTURES AND STUFF WITHOUT HAVING A LEGITIMATE REASON TO BE ON YOUR PROPERTY. AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF THESE GUYS THAT'S GOING AROUND. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PICTURE TAKER WAS QUITE SO SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OBJECT AS TO RELEVANCE AND I'LL LET YOU MAKE YOUR RULING. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OBJECTION SUSTAINED. MR. HARRIS, JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO DO SO THAT YOU CAN MAINTAIN. >> PAUL JULIAN HAD ALREADY AGREED THAT THEY WAS GOING TO GIVE ME TIME, I GUESS, TO TRY AND GET THE PROPERTY RIGHT. AND CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES -- NOW MY PROPERTY AND AM TRYING TO HELP MY MENTALLY ILL BROTHER. ANOTHER FACTOR IS THAT HE WAS LIVING IN THAT HOUSE AND THEY THREW THEM OUT. AT THE TIME. AND THE DAMAGE THAT YOU SEE TO THE HOUSE WAS NOT DONE AT THAT TIME. THEY EVICTED MY BROTHER. RAN ME OFF MY OWN PROPERTY. YOUR HONOR, I DO NOT KNOW -- THE POINT IS THESE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ON THE RECORD. THEY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED DUE TO THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW I HAD TO FILE BANKRUPTCY. I WAS FORCED, BY THE CITY, TO FILE BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE THEY WAS GOING TO DO A HOSTILE TAKEOVER MY PROPERTY. AND DESPITE MY BEGGING AND MY PLEA DESPITE MY RUNNING IT DESPITE MY LITIGATION, DESPITE MY SENDING LETTERS, DESPITE MY CONTACTING THE CITY, DESPITE MY TRYING ALL I COULD TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE, DESPITE IT'S NOT MY PROPERTY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU QUESTION. IS YOUR NAME ON THE PROPERTY, MR. HARRIS? >> MY NAME ON THE PROPERTY AS A PERSON REPRESENTS MY BROTHER. I'M ATTORNEY-IN-FACT FOR MY BROTHER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: I MEAN, BUT ARE YOU ON THE DEED AS AN OWNER? OF THE PROPERTY. >> MY BROTHER IS ON THE DEED. >> BUT YOU ARE HIS CARETAKER. >> YES, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. [01:25:04] I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO SOME OF THE COMMENTS HE MADE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT TO WHAT I DO HERE AS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. I'LL DID WE HAVE ANY PROGRAMS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE MONEY THAT COULD HELP MR. HARRIS, DO WE? I THINK EVERYTHING IS BEEN DEPLETED OR IF WE HAD ANY? >> I'M NOT SURE, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND HE WOULD NEED TO CHECK WITH OUR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR THAT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. LEAVE THAT RIGHT THERE PLEASE. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER, MR. HARRIS? >> JUST A BRIEF. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THAT'S OKAY. >> THE DECEASED GUY THAT DIED, HE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: FOCUSES BEEN. >> HIS NAME WAS MARK R STACY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> WHEN HE DIED, HE LEFT A LOT OF DEBTS, YOUR HONOR. SO -- AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MUST BE CONSIDER ALSO -- NOT JUST THE FACT THAT THIS HOUSE CAN BE CAUGHT UP TO CODE, IS THE FACT THAT HE LEFT A LOT OF DEBT. HE LEFT TEXAS. $7000 IN TAXES. -- IS HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS POC CITY $40,000. THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TRY TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO $20,000. HE OWED NATIONAL CITY, PNC BANK, $40,000. I THEN NEGOTIATED THROUGH MY ATTORNEY TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO POSSIBLY $20,000, HOPEFULLY. WERE WORKING ON PAYMENT PLANS FOR NOW. THE HOUSE, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL THE HOUSE AND GET RID OF THE HOUSE, BUT IS SO TIED UP IN SO MANY DIFFERENT LITIGATIONS UNTIL I CAN CLEAR THIS OUTCOME I CAN EVEN SELL THE HOUSE AND GET RID OF CAUSES. I'VE GOT A LOT OF PROSPECTIVE BUYERS FOR THE HOUSE, BUT I CANCEL IT. AND ARE WILLING TO BUY IT AS IS. BUT DUE TO THESE TECHNICALITIES, DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S RELEVANT OR NOT, BUT I'M REGRESSING THAT THE CITY WORK WITH ME AND I DON'T SEND THEM DOCUMENTATION REFLECTING THAT -- AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AND TRYING TO REDUCE THE -- THE STUFF THAT'S -- BUT HE LOVED US, YOU KNOW. ONCE I CAN GET EVERYTHING IRONED OUT, COULD PROBABLY SELL THE HOUSE PAY OFF THE DEBT AND WILL BE ON THE WAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANKS. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> YES, YOUR HONOR. I'M GOING TO NEED TIME. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MR. SEAN BECAUSE OF MR. PAUL, THEY SAID THAT THEY BE GIVEN ENOUGH TIME. IF I NEED MORE TIME CALLED HIM AND ASKED. SO THEY BEEN WORKING WITH ME AND HELPING ME A LOT. AND OF GOT TO ADMIT THAT. THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY HAVE -- I AND ACCUSING THEM OF ANYTHING BUT THERE'S BAD CHARACTERS TRY TO TAKE MY PROPERTY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> GO AHEAD. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. HARRIS, THE ONLY THING WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY IS JUST THE VIOLATIONS REGARDING THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY. WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE TODAY, JUST TO HELP YOU BE FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IT YOU WANT TO LET THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE KNOW ABOUT HATCHET LADY PHYSICALLY REPAIRING THE PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES? >> YES, MA'AM. BUT THERE'S A REASON WHY WE WOULD WANT THAT TO BE HEARD? >> NO I. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: MR. -- >> I'M JUST TRYING TO HANDLE THE RELEVANT ISSUES BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE BECAUSE SHE ONLY HAS JURISDICTION OVER CERTAIN THINGS. >> OKAY. I GOT YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AND THAT'S OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION. YOU INHERITED, BASICALLY A PROBLEM. >> THE BIG ONE. >> AND YOU HAD TO HIRE LAWYERS AND BRINGING EVERYBODY YOU COULD AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GETTING NOWHERE FAST. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE THIS MORNING AND WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN START TO HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. I'M GOING TO FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS. AND THAT IS THROUGH NO FAULT OF YOURS. THAT'S JUST WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE PROPERTY SINCE IT LANDED IN YOUR LAP VIA YOUR BROTHER. SO I'LL GIVE YOU 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT. NOW HERE'S -- I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO ME CLOSELY. ONCE YOU GET THE APARTMENT SHOOT, YOU HAVE 180 DAYS, SIX MONTHS, TO BRING IT [01:30:11] INTO COMPLIANCE. NOW, IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME -- AND YOU PROBABLY WILL -- >> I CAN GUARANTEE YOU. P >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: IF YOU TALK WITH THE CITY THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU. AND IF THEY CAN'T GRANT ANY OTHER EXTENSIONS, YOU WILL COME BACK HERE AND I WILL LOOK AT THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE ON THE HOUSE. AND I WILL SEE IF, IN FACT, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING. BECAUSE YOU GOTTA DO IT ONE STEP AT A TIME. >> I THINK I DONE PAINTED THE HOUSE THERE WAS A HOLE IN THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT THEY WANTED ME TO FIX I FIX THAT. I KEPT THE GRASS CUT, HEDGES TRIMMED, STARTING REPAIRING THINGS. AND I TRIED TO GET IN COMPLIANCE, I ALWAYS STAY IN TOUCH WITH YOU THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MR. PAUL OR SOMEONE ELSE I AIN'T NEVER BEEN TRYING TO BUCK ON THEM. I'VE NEVER BEEN DISRESPECTFUL TO NONE OF THEM. THEY BEEN GOOD PEOPLE TO ME. >> YOU SAID THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THEY BEEN GOOD TO ME. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. >> IF HE CAN HELP IN ANY WAY LEGALLY THAT HE CAN DO, AND UNAPPRECIATED. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: HERE'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO. YOU GET THE PERMIT WITHIN TWO FROM TODAY'S DATE OR THE DATE OF THE ORDER, WHICH MAY BE TOMORROW. AND YOU PULL THE PERMIT, YOU HAVE 180 DAYS. IF YOU NEED AN EXTENSION THE CITY WILL SOMETIMES GRANT THAT EXTENSION IF IT'S BEYOND WHAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE ME AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO COMPLY -- HERE'S WHAT YOU GONNA DO. OBTAIN THE PERMIT -- OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED EXPANSIONS EITHER AT LEAST EVERY HUNDRED 80 DAYS. AT SIX MONTHS, OKAY? UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED. COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS AND CURE OTHER VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOW REQUIRING A PERMIT OR YOU'LL BE FINE THEY'LL SAY $50 PER DAY. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK. I WISH I COULD SAY MORE, BUT GOOD LUCK. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GO OFF THE RECORD A MINUTE? [A. 19-204 911 N 13th Street Love Center Regeneration Ministries and Fellowship Inc. Paul Julin] >>THE CLERK: 911 N. 15TH STREET LOVE CENTER REGENERATION INDUSTRIES AND FELLOWSHIP INCORPORATED IS THE OWNER AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS A TRY HERE. >>THE CLERK: MR. RYAN'S? IS THIS MR. RYAN'S? >> YES, MA'AM. >> THIS IS ELIZABETH WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >> YES, MA'AM. >> YOU ARE PRESENT BY PHONE AT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING AND THE NEXT VOICE YOU WILL HEAR WILL BE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, FRAN ROSS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: GOOD MORNING, MR. RYAN. >> GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING. MR. JULIN WILL BE PRESENTING OR MR. COSTS. GO AHEAD. >> MR. RYAN, GOOD MORNING, THIS IS CASE 19-204-4911 NORTH 13TH STREET. THE PROPERTIES OWNED BY LOVE CENTER REGENERATION MINISTRATION AND FELLOWSHIP OF PO BOX 284 FORT PIERCE FLORIDA 34954. THE VIOLATIONS ARE THE INTERNATIONALLY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 304 MAINTENANCE CODE 304.13.2 OPENABLE WINDOWS, 403.2 BATHROOM AND TOILET VENTILATION. THIS MAGISTRATE CAME BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE JULY 17, 2019. IN ORDER DETERMING VIOLATION WAS ORDERED AND A 90 DAY EXTENSION WAS GRANTED ON JANUARY 29, 2020. AN AFFIDAVIT OF PNONCOMPLIANCE WAS RECORDED APRIL AN AFFIDAVIT OF NONCOMPLIANCE WAS RECORDED APRIL 30, 2020 WHEN NO PERMIT HAD BEEN ISSUED. ON THAT DATE, THE FINE STARTED AS OF JUNE 9, 2020 THE TOTAL FINDS ARE $4030 WITH $30 IN RECORDING FEES. SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AS OF JUNE 10, THE PERMIT, 20 Ã16584 WINDOW REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN [01:35:03] ISSUED. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT DEFINES BE STOPPED AS OF THAT DATE UNTIL THE PERMIT IS EITHER CLOSED WITH APPROVED INSPECTIONS OR IF THE PERMIT EXPIRES AT THAT TIME EITHER INSTANCE THIS MATTER WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF FINDS, WHETHER IT'S TO PRODUCE OR RESTART. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: DID YOU HEAR WHAT MR. COSTS STATED MR. RYAN'S? >> YES, MA'AM. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: YOU DO HAVE THE PERMIT? >> YES. WE PULLED THE PERMIT LAST THURSDAY LAST WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ALLSTATE APPLIANCE IN THIS MATTER, ALLOW YOU TIME TO COMPLY WITH THE VIOLATIONS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE PERMIT. >> OKAY. I'LL HAVE THE WORK COMPLETED BY FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS MAYBE GETTING SOME OF THOSE FEES WAIVED HIS THIS DISCUSSION LATER. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: NOT AT THIS HEARING. >> OKAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: AT A LATER TIME YOU MAY TALK WITH THE CITY AND COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY. >> OKAY. OKAY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BYE-BYE. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: ANYTHING ELSE? >> THE TWO CASES THAT WERE NOT HEARD OUR 5 B 19-2901 N. 16TH STREET UNIT A AND 5 E CASE NUMBER 19-3023, 2018 STONEWARE LANE, UNIT A IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES WILL BE RESCHEDULED FOR JULY. >>SPECIAL MAGISTRATE: OKAY. SO, DO WE HAVE ANY WHERE PARTIES ARE NOT PRESENT? I LIKE TO SEE THAT SMILE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.