[00:00:07] >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. . >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS MONDAY, JULY 6, 2020. THIS IRREGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR WAYNE HEWLETT. >> MATTA MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE. LET US PRAY. FATHER, HAVING CALMLY THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO GATHER TOGETHER IN THE SETTING IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. NOW, LORD, WE INVITE YOUR PRESENCE INTO THIS PLACE. LET US COME TOGETHER AND REASON ONE WITH ANOTHER. LORD, WE ASK FOR A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND A SPIRIT OF REASONING TOGETHER. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS AND GIVE WISDOM TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE LEADERS THAT SIT IN THIS POSITION TODAY. LORD, GIVE THEM WISDOM BEYOND THE YEARS OF THE COLLECTIVE UNDERSTANDING. AND LORD, MAY DECISIONS BE MADE THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL BE A SHINING EXAMPLE TO THOSE THAT ARE HERE AND THOSE THAT ARE AROUND US. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND PLUS THIS TIME, IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL). >> FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER IS JOINING US BY PHONE. [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. >> THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 15, 2020 REGULAR MEETING. >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL). >> NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION [a. Treasure Coast Waterway Cleanup Week Proclamation being received by Robert Mac Keen & Justin Beard. ] RECOGNIZING TREASURE COAST WATERWAY CLEANUP WEEK. IN THE MAYOR IS NOT GOING TO PRESENT THIS BUT THOSE THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE GOING TO ACCEPT THAT WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION FOR YOU DOWN WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS. WHEREAS, SATURDAY, JULY 25, 2020 THE MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION OF THE TREASURE COAST IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT WILL CONDUCT THE 13TH ANNUAL TREASURE COAST WATERWAY CLEANUP AND WHEREAS THIS WILL ATTRACT APPROXIMATELY 1000 VOLUNTEERS WHO WILL PARTICIPATE IN CLEANING UP THE WATERWAYS OF INDIAN RIVER, MARTIN AND ST. LUCIE COUNTIES AND WHEREAS 27 DESIGNATED SITES WILL SERVE AS DISPOSAL SITES FOR THE ALL IN TEARS TO WORK OUT OF THE END WHEREAS NUMEROUS WATERFRONT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS HAVE BEEN RECRUITED TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN WATERFRONTS AND WHEREAS IN 2019 IN 20 19/5.10 TONS OF TRASH IS COLLECTED FROM APPROXIMATELY 125 MILES MILES OF WATERWAYS WITH AN EXPECTATION OF A LARGER AMOUNT TO BE COLLECTED THIS YEAR WITH AN INCREASED VOLUNTEER EFFORT. NOW, THEREFORE, I LINDA HUDSON MAYOR OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE PROCLAIMED JULY 19 THROUGHOF A LARGER AMOUNT TO BE COLLECTED THIS YEAR WITH AN INCREASED VOLUNTEER EFFORT. NOW, THEREFORE, I LINDA HUDSON MAYOR OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE PROCLAIMED JULY 19-25, 2020 AS TREASURE COAST WATER CLEANUP WEEK IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE AND ENCOURAGE CITIZENS USE THIS OCCASION TO FOSTER APPRECIATION FOR OUR TREASURE COAST WATERWAYS AND ASSIST IN THE CLEANUP EFFORTS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOUR EFFORT? >> YES, MA'AM. I WOULD. LADIES, GENTLEMEN, MAYOR HUDSON, AND ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, IT IS MY HONOR TO REPRESENT THE MARINE ASSOCIATION OF THE TREASURE COAST AND FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR PROCLAIMING THIS WEEK OF JULY 19 AS TREASURE COAST WATERWAY CLEANUP WEEK. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL EVENT. SINCE 2008, WE REMOVED 88 TONS OF TRASH FROM OUR WATERWAYS. OUR GROUP COVERS 125 MILES OF WATERWAY AND BEACHFRONT FROM HOMETOWN TO SEBASTIAN AS WELL AS A DIVE CLEANUP AT PECK LAKE REEF IN MOUNTAIN COUNTY. LAST YEAR THANKS TO MORE THAN A THOUSAND VOLUNTEERS ALONG THE TREASURE COAST, WE COLLECTED NEARLY 5000 TONS OR JUST MORE THAN 5000 TONS OF TRASH. TYPICALLY, WE OPEN 28 CLEANUP LOCATION SIX BEING IN FORT PIERCE. HOWEVER, THIS YEAR WE ARE OPERATING UNDER AN [00:05:04] ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION DUE TO COVID-19 WE ARE MOVING TO A VIRTUAL CLEANUP. SO AS WITH YEARS PAST WAS A ONE DAY CLEANUP THIS YEAR WE WILL DO THE WHOLE WEEK. WE ARE ASKING FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE SOME TIME BETWEEN JULY 18 AND JULY 26. IT'S SIMPLE. WE ARE GOING TO DO IT VIRTUAL SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO TO TC WATERWAY CLEANUP.COM, FROM THERE, YOU CHOOSE YOUR OWN CLEANUP LOCATION. IT CAN BE ANYWHERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. IT CAN BE A BEACH, IT CAN BE AN ISLAND, IT CAN BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE WATER. IN RECORD YOUR DATA USING THE ONLINE REGISTRATION SOFTWARE. AS USUAL, GRABBER, BRIDGES AND SUPPLIES WILL BE AVAILABLE AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS ALONG THE TREASURE COAST. AGAIN, THESE LOCATIONS CAN BE FOUND AT TC WATERWAY CLEANUP.COM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THIS CAUSE AND RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF COMING TOGETHER AS WE WORK TO PRESERVE OUR BEAUTIFUL WATERWAYS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TAKEN IN FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS JUSTIN BEARD WITH DIRECTOR FORT PIERCE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. (APPLAUSE). [a. Email from Diane Shaw thanking the City of Fort Pierce for providing the opportunity for free antibody tests for COVID-19 at Ilous Ellis Park.] >> THE FOLLOWING LETTERS WILL BE KEPT ON FILE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM DIANE SHAW THANKING CITY FORT PIERCE FOR PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FREE COVID ANTIBODY TESTING. AND THEN WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM KATHY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GRACE [b. Letter from Cathie Mouring, Executive Director, GraceWay Village thanking the City of Fort Pierce for the generous gift and ongoing support through a supportive partnership.] [8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.] A VILLAGE THANKING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THE GIFT IN SUPPORT THROUGH SUPPORTIVE PARTNERSHIPS. NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN ONE VIRTUAL THAT MS. COX WILL READ. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO BE -- WILL BE GIVEN A WARNING SIGNAL OF THREE SECONDS BEGINNING TO WIND UP YOUR REMARKS AT THE WARNING SIGNAL AND YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND ARE WE SIGNING IN TONIGHT, MS. COX? >> YES, MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SIGNING IN YOUR TIME WILL NOT START UNTIL YOU START TALKING. OCTAVIUS ROBINSON. MR. ROBINSON, IS ONE AT A TIME. IS THAT MS. COPELAND WITH YOU? I WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN. THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN GO FIRST AND THEN SHE CAN GO. YOU GET THREE MINUTES EACH. >> OKAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY? >> IF YOU COULD SIGNING, PLEASE? >> GOOD EVENING MATTER MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. I WILL BE ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FROM 11 A TO 11 E. >>MAYOR HUDSON: STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> OCTAVIUS ROBINSON 4804 SAN DIEGO AVENUE FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> WE ARE REQUESTING A LIEN WAIVER OR REDUCTION ON OUR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 301 N. 13TH STREET. IN CONJUNCTION, WE COMBINED ALL OF THE FEES TOGETHER TO GIVE ONE BIG NUMBER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO LIST THEM SEPARATELY EVEN THOUGH WE FELL FOR THEM SEPARATELY. WE THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL GOING TO BE TOGETHER. I HAVE A COPY OF THE PAPER IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT THAT LISTS EVERYTHING THAT WE -- I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW. THE TOTAL FEES ARE $63,592.17. THAT ADDRESSES ITEMS 11 A THROUGH 11 E. AND SO THE CITY CHARGES ARE AND SO THE CITY CHARGES ARE $13,453.32. OUR REQUEST IS THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, INTEREST AND PENALTIES BE WAIVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,138.85. IN THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THE 13,000AND SO THE CITY CHARGES ARE $13,453.32. OUR REQUEST IS THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, INTEREST AND PENALTIES BE WAIVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,138.85. IN THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THE 13,453 WHICH ARE DIRECT CITY FEES THAT WE CAN PAID OVERTIME. WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE YOU GUYS -- IF THE BOARD DECIDES NOT TO HEAR THAT ONE. WE WILL PAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND THEN AS FOR TIMER GRANT TO HELP US ASSIST WITH THE REMAINING BALANCE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. ARE YOU DONE? AESTHETIC? AND THEN MISS COPELAND. THIS IS BARBARA COPELAND. >> I THINK THEY NEED EACH OTHER, MAYOR, TAGTEAM. >> GOOD EVENING MATTER MAYOR [00:10:04] AND. >> GOOD EVENING. >> AND GOOD EVENING TO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IF YOU WOULD SIGN IN. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. ROBINSON SIGNED IN? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. >> WE WORK TOGETHER AND I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO MY PRESENTATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU DO YOUR PRESENTATION. WE WANT TO HEAR YOU. (LAUGHING). >> YOU WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN? (LAUGHING). >> WE DO HAVE A POWERPOINT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT? >>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE. YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT ARRANGEMENT HAD TIME. >> WE ARE ASKING THAT THESE FEES BE WAIVED BECAUSE WE HAVE A VISION AND WE ALSO HAVE A TRACK RECORD, THE THINGS THAT WE ENVISION TO DO IN OUR CITY FOR OUR CITY IS ALWAYS DONE. AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD, TO DO A MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY CENTER IN OUR AREA, WHICH, IN THAT AREA, THERE IS -- THERE IS NO SERVICE TO EVERY -- ETHNICITY OF PEOPLE. AND SO IT IS OUR VISION TO BRING IT IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THE HEART OF MY CITY TO RULE OUT THE NEGATIVE AND BRING IN THE POSITIVE. AND WE REALLY NEED THE HELP OF OUR CITY. WE NEED OUR CITY TO ASSIST US WITH THIS PROJECT. >> IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD IS BARBARA COPELAND 3404 AVENUE AS IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DID YOU SIGNING? DID YOU SIGNING FOR HER, TOO? >> I DID. >> I THINK WE HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT. >> JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE PROPERTY IN 105 N. 15TH STREET WHICH IS OUR FIRST BUILDING THAT WE ACQUIRED IN 1998 AND THAT BUILDING WAS MAINTAINED AND BROUGHT UP AND MAKES THIS CORNER LOOK BEAUTIFUL. NOW WE BUILT THIS NEW FACILITY AT THE ADDRESS OF 14 0670 BE A BRAND-NEW CHURCH ADJACENT FROM THIS PROPERTY AND AS WELL, OUR LATEST PROJECT WAS ON 504 N. 24TH STREET WHERE WE REMODELED THE CHURCH AND I WAS OPENING AND FUNCTIONING IN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN SHE MENTIONS OUR TRACK RECORD WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF EXCELLENCE IN BEAUTIFYING OUR CITY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LUKE RUSKIN GOT? LUKE? I APOLOGIZE IF I BUTCHERED THAT NAME. >> PRETTY CLOSE. LUCA ROSS CONNECTS ON BE HALF OF PROPERTY MAYOR THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS ON THE AGENDA 11 F. AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAD REACHED AGREEMENT WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR THE FINE AMOUNT LISTED THERE, $1850. WE JUST ASKED THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND WE ARE PREPARED TO PAY THAT TODAY, AS A MATTER FACT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DID YOU SIGNING? >> I DID. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? >> LUKE ROSS CONNECTS IN YOUR ADDRESS. >> STEWART. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MS. COX, YOU WANT TO READ THE MESSAGE FROM MR. TARR AT 111 ORANGE AVENUE? ASK THANK YOU, MA'AM. FOR THE RECORD, STEVE TARR, 111 ORANGE AVENUE. THIS IS REGARDING COMMISSIONER ALEXANDERS AGENDA ITEM 13 A. W THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. MY PAST I HAVE SET UP AS A COMMISSIONER I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO TRY TO PLEASE EVERYONE. ACTUALLY, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE, WHICH LEADS ME TO AGENDA ITEM 13 A WHICH I HOPE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO REQUIRE MASKS TO BE WORN BY EVERYONE IN FORT PIERCE. SINCE MY PAST INCLUDES A MEDICAL CAREER CANNOT BE OVERSTATED THAT YOU PROMISED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS MANDATES SUCH ACCIDENTS. IF YOU DO NOT THINK THAT REQUIRING -- IF YOU DO THINK THAT REQUIRING A MASK VIOLATES SOMEONE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, THEY MAY AS WELL DISCOURAGE OR CODE OF ORDINANCES. IN FACT, WOULD VIOLATE MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IF YOU DIDN'T PROTECT ME FROM THIS VIRUS BY REQUIRING MASKS. WE CAN ALL SEE ON TV GETTING REELECTED TRUMPS COMMON SENSE, HOWEVER, DOING THE RIGHT THING TRUMPS EVERYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. [9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA] THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> NEXT WE HAVE ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR DELETE OR CHANGE? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: A MOTION [00:15:02] SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? >> (ROLL CALL). >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT [11. CONSENT AGENDA] AGENDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR -- >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> THERE'S -- YOU WANT TO PULL SOMETHING. >> I DO. WELL, JUST FOR DISCUSSION, WE HAD SPEAKERS ON A THROUGH E. I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT BEFORE WE GO FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REMAINING PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> SO BE IT. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER (ROLL CALL). [a. Approval of request to reduce lot clearing fees in the amount of $3,510.66 against 302 N 14th St. (301 N 13th St.), Fort Pierce, FL, Parcel ID Number 2409-507-0016-000-2 owned by Liberty Truth & Deliverance Tabernacle of God, Inc., 105 N 15th St., Fort Pierce, FL 34950. In accordance with previously established policy, staff recommends the approval to waive the costs for interest, penalties, and fees leaving a balance due of $718.85 payable in 60 days. However, applicant is requesting a waiver of all charges including the hard costs totaling $3,510.66, which requires a direct vote by the Commission.] [b. Approval of request to reduce lot clearing fees in the amount of $1,968.24 against 302 N 14th St. (301 N 13th St.), Fort Pierce, FL, Parcel ID Number 2409-507-0016-000-2 owned by Liberty Truth & Deliverance Tabernacle of God, Inc., 105 N 15th St., Fort Pierce, FL 34950. In accordance with previously established policy, staff recommends the approval to waive the costs for interest, penalties, and fees leaving a balance due of $745.65 payable in 6 months. However, applicant is requesting a waiver of all charges including the lot clearing costs totaling $1,968.24, which requires a direct vote by the Commission.] [c. Approval of request to reduce lot clearing fees in the amount of $13,060.24 against 301 N 13th St., Fort Pierce, FL, Parcel ID Number 2409-507-0016-000-2 owned by Liberty Truth & Deliverance Tabernacle of God, Inc., 105 N 15th St., Fort Pierce, FL 34950. In accordance with previously established policy, staff recommends the approval to waive the costs for interest, penalties, and fees leaving a balance due of $2,900.98 payable in 12 months. However, applicant is requesting a waiver of all charges including the lot clearing costs totaling $13,060.24, which requires a direct vote by the Commission.] [d. Approval of request to reduce demolition fees in the amount of $17,087.28 against 302 N 14th St. (301 N 13th St.), Fort Pierce, FL, Parcel ID Number 2409-507-0016-000-2 owned by Liberty Truth & Deliverance Tabernacle of God, Inc., 105 N 15th St., Fort Pierce, FL 34950. In accordance with previously established policy, staff recommends the approval to waive the costs for interest, penalties, and fees leaving a balance due of $7,094.80 payable in 24 months. However, applicant is requesting a waiver of all charges including the hard costs totaling $17,087.28, which requires a direct vote by the Commission.] [e. Approval of request to reduce demolition fees in the amount of $27,964.75 against 301 N 13th St., Fort Pierce, FL, Parcel ID Number 2409-507-0016-000-2 owned by Liberty Truth & Deliverance Tabernacle of God, Inc., 105 N 15th St., Fort Pierce, FL 34950. In accordance with previously established policy, staff recommends the approval to waive the costs for interest, penalties, and fees leaving a balance due of $12,958.95 payable in 36 months. However, applicant is requesting a waiver of all charges including the hard costs totaling $27,964.75, which requires a direct vote by the Commission.] >> ITEMS 11 A THROUGH E. RATHER THAN READ ALL OF THESE I WILL SAY THAT IT IS THE REQUEST TO REDUCE LIENS FOR PARCELS -- A SINGLE PARCEL LOCATED AT 302 N. 14TH STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS 301 N. 13TH STREET AND -- IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA, WHICH IS OWNED BY LIBERTY TRUTH AND DELIVERANCE TABERNACLE OF GOD. THESE ITEMS ALL ARE THE SAME PROPERTY. THEY JUST HAD DIFFERENT NAMES ON THEM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> I HEARD AMOUNTS THROWN OUT OF OVER $60,000 BUT I'M READING DIFFERENTLY. AND I FIGURED IT'S TIME FOR PEGGY TO COME UP AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE HAS BEEN A REDUCTION IN THE FEES AND NORMALLY, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO US, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE OWNER AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND PRETTY MUCH A WORKOUT DEAL. SO IT IS RARE THAT WE GET FOLKS OUT IN FRONT OF US STATING THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE. AND SOMETIMES WE CANNOT DO THAT. SO PEGGY, I'M GOING TO LET YOU TELL US ABOUT IT. >> GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE CHURCH WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN ADJOINING PROPERTIES, NOT REALIZING THAT THERE WERE DEMOLITION AND LIENS ON THE PROPERTY FROM THE PAST OWNER. I HAVE MET WITH THE OWNER WE HAVE SET DOWN AND DISCUSSED THIS. HIS NUMBERS WERE OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT. THERE IS ACTUALLY MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE DEMOLITION LIEN WHICH ROLLS OVER INTO PAGE 2. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ALL OF THE LIENS TOGETHER CAME TO A LITTLE OVER $80,000. THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WAVING 63 SIX, ROUGHLY, WHICH IS YOUR INTEREST, PENALTIES AND ADMINISTRATION CHARGES WHICH LEAVES 24 FOUR. BECAUSE THERE ARE FIVE, WHAT WE WORKOUT IS A PAYMENT OF OVER THREE YEARS FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. SO WE PHASED IT IN. ON THE TWO SMALL LOT CLEARINGS, WHICH ARE EACH 700 AND SOME DOLLARS, ONE BEING PAYABLE IN 60 DAYS ONE BEING PAYABLE IN SIX MONTHS. AND THEN THE LARGER FINES TO ALLOW HER MORE TIME TO GET THE MONEY TOGETHER. SO WITH THE BIGGEST ONE BEING THE DEMOLITION, WHICH IS 12,000 -- IS $13,000. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THREE YEARS TO PAY THAT ONE. SO WE TRY TO SPACE IT OUT. >> IS A BIG CHUNK. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE NOW? >> YES. THESE ARE HARD COSTS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: HARD COSTS FROM PREVIOUSLY? YEAH. >> MATTER MAYOR -- COMMISSIONER SESSIONS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> SO THE BALANCE IS WHAT NOW? AFTER WHICH WILL RECOMMENDING. >> THE HARD COSTS COME TO $24,419.23. >> OKAY. HERE IS WHERE MY THOUGHT PROCESSES WITH ALL OF THIS. THIS PARTICULAR CHURCH HAS DONE GREAT THINGS IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A MATTER FACT, THEY TOOK A BUILDING THAT WAS PROBABLY IN HIS JUDGMENT WHILE I WON'T SAY IT'S WORSE CONDITION -- BUT IT WAS NOT IN THE BEST CONDITION. AND THEY MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY BUILT A CHURCH IN THAT AREA THAT JUST EXCEEDS BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION IN TERMS OF WHAT IS CUSTOMARY AND WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE IN TERMS OF STRUCTURES AND NEW [00:20:02] STRUCTURES. SO THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD. WHAT I HEARD THE YOUNG MAN PROPOSE EARLIER, HER SON, WAS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A CULTURAL CENTER UP. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE PERIOD IN OUR COMMUNITY. NOT TO MENTION, IN THAT AREA. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE BALANCE WOULD BE MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT, YOUR HOW WE OFTEN PARTNERSHIP UP WITH PRIVATE ENTITIES? ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE THAT WILL ENHANCE THE AREA IN THE COMMUNITY. I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD CONTRIBUTE THAT -- WHICH IS OUT OF THE NORM. I KNOW IT'S NOTHING THAT WE NORMALLY DO. BUT AGAIN, WITH WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, AND HOW THAT WILL ENHANCE THE AREA AND EDUCATE A LOT OF OUR INDIVIDUALS IN THAT AREA, I THINK IT IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY $20,000 BECAUSE WHEN THOSE PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, THEY DO IT. AND WHEN YOU WALK IN THAT CHURCH OVER THERE, IT IS JUST IMMACULATE. WITH THE CONGREGATION WAS BUILT OVERNIGHT. SO THIS YOUNG LADY AND YOUNG MAN CAME IN WITH THE CONGREGATION. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE CONGREGATION IS THAT IT IS FULL OF USE. YOU PROBABLY WON'T FIND ANYBODY MUCH OLDER THAN ME OTHER THAN THE PASTORS THEMSELVES. AND THAT, IN AND OF ITSELF, I THINK IS GREAT IN LIGHT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THE CONGREGATION THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR TRACK RECORD AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH AN EMPTY LOT THAT HAS A ROTTEN OAK TREE LAYING DOWN -- LAST TIME I LOOKED -- WHICH IS DOING NOTHING OTHER THAN -- I THINK NOW THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF IT, WOULD BE A SMALL CONTRIBUTION IF THEY BUILT THE BUILDING THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT. I MAY NOT LIVE TO SEE IT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM DOWN IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> YES. (INDISCERNIBLE) I JUST KNOW THAT -- (INDISCERNIBLE) (AUDIO LOST). >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU. ARE YOU TALKING RIGHT INTO YOUR PHONE OR? >> I HAVE TO TALK INTO THE PHONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: NOW I CAN HEAR YOU. YES, SIR. >> OKAY. THAT PROPERTY IS FROM 13TH STREET TO 15TH STREET. THAT CHURCH HAS TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HASN'T DONE. WE TALK ABOUT YARD CUTTING SAND STUFF THAT WE DID IN THE PAST, THAT CHURCH HAS SUPERSEDED WHATEVER WE CONSIDER DOING. AND I JUST WANT TO PICTURE IN YOUR MIND 13TH STREET TO 15TH STREET ON AVENUE BEACH, THAT CHURCH HAS DONE A MARVELOUS JOB. I CAN'T THINK OF THE PROPHET -- PROPERTY THAT WE DID BUT THE CITY WAS A HOUSING, SUNSHINE WAS IT? NO -- SUNSHINE PONDS I THINK THAT I CAN THINK OF A NAME BUT RIGHT THERE, ON FOURTH STREET, AND 13TH STREET. THOSE HOUSES THAT WE BUILT THEIR WHEN I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE. AND I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT ALMOST 13TH STREET IN GATEWAY TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT FOR THEM TO CONTINUE DOING THE EFFORTS THAT THEY ARE DOING AND AM SORRY I'M NOT THERE TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN KNOWING THEM FOR A LONG TIME AND I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE OF. >> AND THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THAT THE REDUCTION OF 63,000 SEEMS TO BE HIGHER THAN THE NORM. AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE ISSUES KNOWING THAT THIS CHURCH WAS GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS FOR THAT AREA AND HELP AT ALL. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE 20 -- THE $25,000 DIFFERENCES GIVE OR TAKE. THOSE ARE HARD COSTS, YOU CALL THEM. AND REAL EXPENSES AS FAR AS DEMOLITION GOES, THAT'S COVERED IN THERE. WHAT ELSE IS COVERED IN THERE? [00:25:01] >> THERE WERE TWO DEMOLITIONS, COMMISSIONER. THERE WAS A DEMOLITION -- I'M GOING TO GO WITH JUST THE HARD COSTS. IT'S ITEM D AND ITEM E. IT WAS A HARD COST FOR JUST OVER $7000 FOR ONE AND A HARD COST OF ESSENTIALLY, $13,000. SO 20,000 IS JUST IN THOSE TWO DEMOLITIONS. AND THEN THERE WERE THREE LOT CLEARINGS. TWO SMALL AT $700 AND CHANGE EACH AND THEN A $2900.01, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN A TREE CUTTING, CLEARING, DEBRIS REMOVAL TYPE OF EVENT. SO, THREE -- >> SO WHAT WE DO IS YOU CAN'T ALL THE FINES AND FEES, THE INTEREST IN EVERYTHING OUT OF THIS AND SO REALLY THIS IS -- THAT MONEY THAT WE COLLECT WAS BACKING AND WE USE THAT AGAIN FOR CLEANING UP OUR COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? >> IT'S RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND. >> OKAY. I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME -- I MEAN, YOU GET INTO HARD COSTS, WE START MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO THAT, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP THIS CHURCH, BUT RIGHT NOW, WITH THE ISSUE OF THESE LIENS, I JUST HATE MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE WHEN IT COMES TO THE HARD COSTS. THAT'S MY THOUGHT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> GOOD INFORMATION. I AGREE WITH THE HARD COSTS. WE HAVEN'T SET ANY PRECEDENT THAT I'M AWARE OF AT LEAST IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT WE'VE ELIMINATED THOSE HARD COSTS BUT HERE'S WHAT I OFFER AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD IN MAKING THE REQUEST. THIS IS IN OUR CRA DISTRICT WE HAVE OPTIONS RIGHT NOW IN OUR CRA WITH DEVELOPMENT COST REDUCTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT DURING THE DEVELOPING PHASE. MAYBE IT'S NOT UPFRONT IN THIS PHASE BUT WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD IN THE APPLICATION COMES FORWARD, WE HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO PARTNER THIS TEAM AND THIS CHURCH AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CRA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: UH-UH (AFFIRMATIVE). WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A MULTICULTURAL CENTER. >> THAT BELIEVE WE CAME UP WITH SOME REDUCTION STRATEGIES WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE. I THINK THAT LASTS THROUGH NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR OR DECEMBER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I FORGET THE TIMEFRAME EXACTLY. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S HERE THAT I'M READY TO SUPPORT THE TOTAL ELIMINATION, BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY. >> MR. ALEXANDER THAT SAID CHIHUAHUA OR GERMAN SHEPHERD. >> YEAH. >> I WILL COME IN YOUR YARD. >> ALL RIGHT. I WILL MUTE MYSELF. >> NORMALLY, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. BUT RIGHT NOW, DURING THESE TIMES, THE FRONT AND COSTS, WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO GET NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, THE FUNDS ARE VERY LIMITED. AND I THINK THAT IS FIRST THESE DISTANCES CONCERN, IT WILL PROBABLY BE MORE APPRECIATED ON THE FRONT END AS OPPOSED TO LATER ON AND GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF. OTHERWISE, I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT, LOOKING AT THEIR TRACK RECORD AND WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, COMMISSIONER PERRONE,, -- YOU ARE RIGHT. THIS IS PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY CULTURAL CENTERS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND CERTAINLY NOT ONE IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF FORT PIERCE. AND IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE A 5013C CHURCH TO WHICH YOU AND I SHOULD BE DOING, WE DON'T MAKE AN EXCEPTION IN PARTNERSHIP AND SHAME ON US. BUT AGAIN, I JUST BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM IF WE DID IT ON THE FRONT AND BECAUSE CHURCHES, AS YOU KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW OR NOT, BUT MOST CHURCHES, WE OPERATE FROM MONTH TO MONTH. AND EVERY BIT COUNTS. AND AGAIN, THOSE PEOPLE HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS OUT THERE AND I AM CERTAIN THAT IT WOULD BE MORE APPRECIATED IN TERMS OF A COST SAVINGS TO THEM ON A FRONT-END AS OPPOSED TO LATER ON. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THE SELECTED TO SAY. [00:30:01] >> ONE MORE IF I COULD. I AGREE. FRONT-END IS ABSOLUTELY THE KEY TO THAT. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION GET SOME DESIGN WORK DONE, THAT THERE IS A REDUCED COST. BUT WHAT IF WE WERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FEES OVER A THREE-YEAR SPAN WHICH ELIMINATES THAT HIGHER FRONT-END AND JUST DOING A FORMULATED PLAN, I THINK IT WAS ONLY ONE THAT TALKED ABOUT 36 MONTHS. BUT IF WE WERE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THEM, THEN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SPREAD IT ALL OUT. >> IF WE ELIMINATE THE FRONT END COST, WE THEN SPREAD IT OVER THE TIME PERIOD AND THEN ALLOW THAT -- THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REDUCTION IN THE PARTNERSHIP THERE, TOO. THAT'S JUST ANOTHER IDEA. >> I, TOO, I'VE BEEN IN THIS CHURCH, THE NEW ONE. I ACTUALLY WENT WHEN THEY FIRST -- ONE OF THEIR FIRST SERVICES. AND I THINK THAT THIS CHURCH IS VERY DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I WANT TO HELP THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT WE ALWAYS STICK TO HARD COSTS. WE FORGIVE THESE SOFT COSTS BUT WE ALWAYS STICK TO HARD COSTS. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO -- AND ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW. CHURCHES ARE NOT GETTING A LOT OF THEIR TITHING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MEETING RIGHT NOW. SO TIMES ARE HARD RIGHT NOW. I WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF A PLONGER-RANGE TIME TO WORK THIS OUT. AND I THINK THIS IS VERY INSTRUCTIVE FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU ARE BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON IT -- YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT DOES COME BACK TO YOU EVENTUALLY. SO -- BUT I WOULD LIKE TO -- I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE DEDICATED TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY DO HAVE A TRACK RECORD. >> I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR. BEND OVER BACKWARDS AND BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP THEM I TAKE IT TO MEAN THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING BEYOND WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, -- I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ALL SPEAKING OF PAYMENTS THROUGH A PERIOD OF MONTHS, BUT I THINK THAT WAS MORE OF A PROPOSAL FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND THAT'S HOW SERIOUS THEY ARE ABOUT THAT. THAT'S NOT ANYTHING I BELIEVE THE STAFF CREATED BUT THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT INDICATES THEIR SERIOUSNESS ABOUT THE MATTER. SO AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO PROLONG THE TIME BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THAT I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD AS A COMMISSION, BE WILLING TO PARTNERSHIP UP WITH THEM IN LIGHT OF WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IN THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE THEY ARE PROPOSING IN THE 5013C AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. I KNOW THEY WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE WHAT THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN THE PAST. AND I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE I SEE IN CHICAGO AND ATLANTA WHEN I GO TO THOSE CITIES AND I SEE CULTURE -- AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTERS. IT GIVES PEOPLE PRIDE IN WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE. AND NOT ONLY A BUILDING OF THATMAGNITUDE, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAVE A CHARGE WOULD BE A BLESSING FOR EVERYBODY. SO WILL CLOSE ON THAT NOTE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE. >> RATHER THAN MAKE INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS FROM LETTER A TO E IS THERE A WAY WE CAN CONSOLIDATE THAT WITH SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WENT ON THIS EVENING? MY MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE LETTER A THROUGH E WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A PAYMENT PLAN FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD BE OVER A 36 MONTH PERIOD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND WITH A QUESTION. THAT IS THE FEE REDUCTION NUMBER THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, NOT THE OVERALL FEE? >> RIGHT. THE REDUCTION NUMBER THAT -- I'VE APPROVED IT AS IT IS WRITTEN WITH THE -- THE ONLY AMENDMENT IS THE PAYMENT PLAN FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OVER A 36 PERIOD. >> SO TO CLARIFY THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE TO ADDRESS ITEMS 12 A THROUGH 12 E. >> 11. >> 11. AMARI HAD. I'M SORRY. 11 A THROUGH E AND THE EXACT AMOUNT -- DO YOU HAVE IT DOWN TO THE PENNY? >> $24,419.23. >> A TOTAL TERM TO BE PAID BACK OVER 36 MONTHS FROM APPROVAL BY THIS COMMISSION. DID I ACCURATELY RESTATE THE MOTION? >> OKAY. MAYOR THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ELOQUENTLY SAID BY ME BY THE WAY (LAUGHING). >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE >> (ROLL CALL). >> THANK YOU. SO NEXT WE MOVE [a. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for Conditional Use with New Construction submitted by property owner Hyer Management LLC, and representative William P. Stoddard to construct a single family home seaward of the Coastal Construction Control Line (CCCL) at 324 South Ocean Drive, Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned Hutchinson Island Medium Density Residential Zone (R-4A), Parcel ID: 2401-501-0026-000-3.] [00:35:13] ON TO OUR WAS I JUDICIAL HEARINGS. THE FIRST IS AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER HIGHER MANAGEMENT LLC AND REPRESENTATIVE WILLIAM P'S DAUGHTER TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME SEAWARD OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE AT 324 S. OCEAN DRIVE IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED HUTCHINSON ISLAND IDIOM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL R-4A. >> THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND QUASH I JUDICIAL ROLE WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THEY ENGAGE IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASH I JUDICIAL BODY THEY APPLY THE LAWS AND POLICIES AND IS HELD TO STRICTER -- WAS I JUDICIAL HEARINGS ARE LESS FORMAL BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING. WAS I JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE ON COMPETENCE OF SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THEREFORE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT A PROCEEDING MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LIKE LEGISLATORS. THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED UNIFORM PROCEDURES FOR BECAUSE I JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL OF THESE PROCEDURES TONIGHT WILL BE FOLLOW-UP MR. SWEENEY JUST SAID. MADAME CLARK, HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM. >> YES, MA'AM. THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AT THIS TIME, CAN YOU AS THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY X PARTAKE COMMUNICATIONS. >> I WILL CALL THE ROLL. INDICATE WHETHER YOU HAVE HAD ANY X PARTAKE COMMUNICATIONS. (ROLL CALL). >> YOU HAD X PARTAKE COMMUNICATIONS? >> YES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> YES, MA'AM. NOT WITH THE APPLICANT BUT SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. >> COMMISSIONER PERRONE. >> YES, MA'AM. THE SAME. NOW WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT WITH FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> I THINK I KNOW THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. EVERYBODY HAS MASKS ON TONIGHT. I CAN'T TELL. I DON'T RECALL. I'M GETTING A LITTLE OLD NOW. BUT I WILL GO ON RECORD AND SAY I HAVEN'T WITH THE OWNERS BUT I'LL SAY THIS, I DON'T REMEMBER. BUT I HAVE WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR HUDSON. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES. YES, I HAVE, WITH THE -- BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. >> META-MAYOR. >> YES A. >> IT WAS A PHONE CALL THAT I RECEIVED AND I WAS TOLD THAT THESE WERE -- THE PERSON WAS A PROPERTY OWNER. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING YES TO IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. MADAME CLARK, WILL YOU SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES THAT ARE GOING TO TESTIFY? >> YES. >> WHAT ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE, STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? >> IF YOU PLAN TO SPEAK AT ALL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: EVEN IF YOU DON'T SPEAK, BUT YOU THINK YOU MIGHT (LAUGHING). >> OKAY. (SWEARINGEN WITNESSES.). >> WE WILL ASK THAT YOU COMPORT AND INDICATE WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT'S TIME FOR CITY STAFF TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION. STAFF IS A MAXIMUM OF 20 MINUTES EXCLUDING CROSS-EXAMINATION QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. PROCEED. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MONOMERIC MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR A PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT 324 S. OCEAN DRIVE. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE THAT CITY COMMISSION REVIEWED A SIMILAR HOME ON THIS SITE BACK IN FEBRUARY 2017 THAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED. ON-SCREEN ISN'T AERIAL OF THE SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE AVALON BEACH CLUB. THE LAND SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY .13 ACRES IN SIZE AND IT BECAME A PLOTTED LAND OF RECORD IN NINE -- MAY 1947. UNDER NORMAL [00:40:05] CIRCUMSTANCES THIS HOME WOULD NOT NEED TO GO BEFORE CITY COMMISSION BECAUSE AS PROPOSED, IT COMPLIES WITH ALL CITY CODES. HOWEVER, SINCE THIS HOME IS PROPOSED EAST OR SEAWARD OF THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE IS REQUIRED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT BE REVIEWED THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PROCEDURE. THE CCC L PROVIDES PROTECTION FOR BEACHES AND DUNES WHILE ENSURING REASONABLE USE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE CCCL HAS BEEN CREATED AND MONITORED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF BARMEL PROTECTION. BEFORE THE SUM CAN BE BUILT WILL HAVE TO SEEK APPROVAL. I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE IS AN ACTIVE APPROVAL THAT IS BEEN MAINTAINED SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS GIVEN IN GIVEN IN OCTOBER 2017. THE FPE -- THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS MODIFIED FOR A CHANGE IN THE CELL MATERIAL LOCATION DOES NOT INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE BEACH OR DUNE SYSTEM OR TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE LETTER HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING. THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FROM 2017 CONCLUDED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY WOULD HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE BEACH OR DUNE AREAS OR TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE PROPERTY HAS A ZONING OF R LETTER FOUR-A WITH A FUTURE LAND USE OF HUTCHISON ISLAND RESIDENTIAL. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE AS PROPOSED. IT WILL NOT CAUSE AN ADVERSE EFFECT TO THE DUNE SYSTEM AND PLANNING BOARD, BACK IN MARCH VOTED 6 TO 0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN THE SOUTH BEACH OVERLAY DISTRICT AND PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 22-16 3B AND SPECIFIES THAT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS DISTRICT IS 45 FEET. HEIGHT IN THE DISTRICT IS MEASURED FROM FLOOD ELEVATION AND NOT FROM EXISTING GRADE LIKE IT WOULD BE HERE ON THE MAINLAND. AS PROPOSED, THE HEIGHT TO THE PEAK OF THE ROOF IS APPROXIMATELY 41 FEET FROM FEMA BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IS NINE FEET ABOVE GRADE. THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL OF WHAT THE HOME WOULD LOOK LIKE UPON COMPLETION. 67 NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SEVEN LETTERS WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR AND 15 LETTERS WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION. TO SUM UP, THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION MOST LETTERS CONTAINED CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE DUNE OR BEACHES SYSTEM, SOME FLOODING CONCERNS AND THE BLOCKAGE OF YOU TO THE OCEAN IN THE JETTY. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BASED ON POOR CONDITIONS. THE FIRST CONDITION WILL REVOLVE AROUND THE MITIGATION OF A ROYAL PALM THAT IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE DRIVEWAY AREA THAT WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED AND RELOCATED WITH THE DIRECTION OF A FORT PIERCE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IT WILL BE LOCATED TO CITY PROPERTY. 2, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE ALL APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY DEALING WITH EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION CONTROL. THEY WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN THE APPROVAL WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND PROVIDE A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT IS SIGNED AND SEALED BY A FLORIDA REGISTERED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS ARE YOU CAN APPROVE THE PROPOSAL SUBJECT TO FOUR CONDITIONS IN THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPROVAL WITH CHANGES OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES. REGARDING THE FEATURES IN THE ARCHITECTURE, MAYBE THE APPLICANT AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS OF THE FLOOR PLAN ITSELF ON CEILING HEIGHTS OR FLOOR SEPARATIONS AND THAT NATURE? >> ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THIS ONE, BUT THEY PREPARED AN EXHIBIT TONIGHT TO SHOW WITH THE ORIGINAL PER -- APPROVAL WAS IN 2017. WHAT THE APPROVAL WAS BEFORE STAFF RECEIVED IT BEFORE PLANNING BOARD AND THEN PURSUANT TO PLANNING BOARD DISCUSSION. IT WAS A LOWER HEIGHT AS BEFORE. SO LET THEM GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT. >> AND THAT RIGHT IN FIGURES WHEN YOU MENTIONED LAST, IS THAT WHAT IS PROPOSED IN YOUR PRESENTATION? >> YES. THAT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED TONIGHT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: 41. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. SO WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD AND SIGN IN? AND DO [00:45:06] YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ASK THE STAFF? SO YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. THANK YOU. ALREADY. AND IF YOU WILL SIGN AND AND THEN MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION? STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> WILLIAM STODDARD, 1717 INDIAN RIVER BOULEVARD VERO BEACH, FLORIDA. >> THANK YOU. >> FOR USE MORNING. >> YES. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I WAS HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IN 2017 AND AT THE TIME, THE PROJECT WAS THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THE SOUTH BEACH OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD. THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER REDESIGNED THE HOUSE TO ELIMINATE THE FLAT ROOF AND THE DECK AREA ON THE TOP. IN THE OVERALL ROOF HEIGHT WAS REDUCED AT THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING WE HEARD THAT THE PUBLIC STILL HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND THE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BY PLANNING AND ZONING AT THE TIME AS A POSSIBILITY TO REDUCE THE CEILING HEIGHTS. WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT. THAT'S WE ARE PRESENTING TONIGHT. WE HEARD THE PUBLIC'S CONCERNS AND WE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO, I THINK A REASONABLE LEVEL THAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD SAY IN THIS TYPE OF HOME. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. IN ADDITION, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FILM MATERIAL. THE DEP SAYS WE CAN HAVE ANY LOSS OF FILL MATERIAL SO RETAKEN EXCAVATION AND LOCATING IT ON THE SEAWARD SIDE. THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THAT WOULD CREATE DEFLECTION OF FLOODWATERS AND INCREASE FLOODING DAMAGE TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. I UNDERSTOOD THAT CONCERN. WE LOOKED AT THAT. WE WENT BACK TO THE DEP AND SAID CAN WE TAKE THE FILM MATERIAL AND LOCATED AT THE SEAWARD END OF THE FRONTAL DUNE? >> WE ARE BUILDING UP THE FRONTAL DUNE, NOT RAISING HEIGHT SO WON'T DEFLECT FLOODWATERS AND STILL MAINTAINS THE SAME VOLUME. WE WENT AND ASKED THEM FOR NO FORMAL PERM MODIFICATION. AND THEY APPROVED THE PLAN. IN ADDITION, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THE DUNE WE EXIT 2 EXCAVATE HOW ARE WE GOING TO IMPACT THE DUNE SYSTEM THERE. SO THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT, AS WELL AS THE APPROVAL THAT WE GOT INCLUDES A TEMPORARY RETAINING WALL THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET SEAWARD OF THE RESIDENCE TO STABILIZE THE DUNE SYSTEM. SO WE REALLY MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS DURING CONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK WE'VE DONE MORE THAN WE WERE ASKING FOR BACK IN 2017. WE REALLY TRY TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS. AND WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES AND WE'VE GOT THEM APPROVED AND WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS AND GRANT APPROVAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >> COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >> REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. IT STARTED OFF WITH AN ELEVATOR SHAFT AT THE TOP OF THE ROOF AND THEN WE FIXED ALL OF THAT TO WHAT WE HADN'T 2017. AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT 20/20 HAS TO OFFER AND IS GETTING BETTER. MAYBE IF WE WAIT 10 YEARS IT'LL LOOK GREAT (LAUGHING) I'M SURE THE APPLICANT'S -- (LAUGHING). THIS THING, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ITERATIONS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ALONG SOUTH OCEAN. WE KNOW IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THESE LITTLE 50 OR 55 FOOT LOTS, YOU CAN ONLY BUILD A CERTAIN PRODUCT ON THERE. YOU CANNOT LIVE IN THE BOTTOM FLOOR. SO ALL THESE THINGS HAVE -- IS DIFFERENT THAN ANYWHERE ELSE I THINK IN MAINLAND FLORIDA. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE REDUCED THE SIZE AND I THINK THE ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENT OF THE ROOF LINE IS BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ASK OKAY. IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SIGNING FOR ME. PLEASE. AND I THINK I SAW YOU WERE SWARMING, CORRECT? [00:50:22] >> I WAS. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS BILL RINCON I LIVE AT 355 S. OCEAN DRIVE SO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED LOT. ANNA WAS HERE AT FIRST I WANT THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME COME DOWN. A FEW OF US CAME DOWN TO EXPRESS OUR FEELINGS ABOUT THE PROPOSED LOT. I WAS HERE IN 2017. THERE WAS ABOUT THREE DOZEN OF US WERE SO THEY CAME DOWN AT THAT TIME. THERE ARE MORE THAT DISAPPROVE OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE NOW, BUT BECAUSE MOST OF THEM WERE SENIOR CITIZENS AND WITH THE COVID, THEY DECIDED TO STAY HOME TONIGHT. ANYWAY, I BELIEVE YOU COMMISSIONERS. YOU BASICALLY HAVE TWO INTERESTS. ONE IS TO INCREASE REVENUE FOR THE CITY, MAINLY THROUGH PROPERTY TAX BASE AND THE OTHER WOULD BE, I HOPE, YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN MAINTAINING THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE AND PAID PROPERTY TAXES FOR YEARS, DECADES. I'D LIKE TO THINK THIS WOULD BE THE MAYOR'S PRIMARY CONCERN. I HAVE BEEN A TAXPAYING CITIZEN OF FORT PIERCE FOR OVER 45 YEARS THE END BECAUSE I OWN RENTAL APARTMENTS, I HAVE PAID WELL OVER HALF $1 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, TO GIVE SIGNIFICANT CONSIDERATION TO THE DOZENS OF GOOD, TAXPAYING CITIZENS, MOSTLY SENIORS, WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY A TALL BUILDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS IT WAS WHEN MR. MANDEL ON THE LOT THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE CONCERNS THESE RESIDENTS AND MYSELF. AT THE HEIGHT OF MUCH MORE THAN 33 FEET FROM STREET LEVEL, THIS BUILDING WILL OBSTRUCT THE VIEW OF THE BEACH CONSIDERABLY FOR MANY OF THE AVALON APARTMENTS AND OBSTRUCTED VIEW OF THE INLET FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE. FOR MANY YEARS WE RESIDENCE ON THE 300 BLOCK OF SOUTH OCEAN UNDERSTOOD THAT 324 WAS A REGULAR AND ON BUILDABLE LOT FOR A FEW REASONS. OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAS CHANGED. WE KNOW THAT MR. HIGHER PAID A LOT FOR THE LOT. WHILE OUR FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE NO BUILDING WE WOULD ASK FOR A COMPROMISE. WE WOULD ASK FOR HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF NO MORE THAN 38 FEET FROM STREET LEVEL. THIS COULD BE A THREE-STORY BUILDING OF 10 FOOT FLOORS IN OTHER WORDS, 10 FEET CEILING HEIGHT INSTEAD OF 12 FEET. THE DESIGN THAT HE HAS NOW IS FOR 12 FEET CEILINGS. SO THIS WOULD REDUCE, BY SIX FEET THE DESIGN THAT HE HAS THE 41 FEET. THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO US. WHILE I DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE BUT I SPEAK FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S ABOUT 36 FEET TO 38 FEET HIGH. THIS WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. WE KNOW WE DO NOT HAVE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. TIME IS UP. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE? >> MAYOR, I HAD TWO PEOPLE EMAIL SWORN STATEMENTS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WOULD YOU READ THEM, PLEASE. >> THE FIRST ONE IS FROM STEVE TARR OF 111 ORANGE AVENUE. FIRST, WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME THE APPLICANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A HOME A BELT ALONG THE OCEAN FOR MANY YEARS. BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT VOID, THE CITY HAS LOST SIGNIFICANT TAX REVENUES WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO PAY THEIR POLICE EMPLOYEES, PAVED ROADS PROVIDE RECREATION SERVICES, COVER LOSSES FROM THE THEATER AND GOLF COURSE, PROPERLY STAFFED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT AND MUCH MORE. THE ONGOING RESISTANCE TO PROGRESS BY LONGTIME RESIDENTS IS A REPUTATION THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO REMEDY IN ORDER TO RAISE REVENUES TO PROPERLY FUND THESE DEFICIENCIES. AS FOR THE APPLICANT, I HOPE YOU RECEIVE A BETTER WELCOME THAN MR. MANDEL DID IN THE PAST ON THIS SITE. IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE TO ME THAT THEY RECENTLY -- A NEIGHBOR THAT WAS PASSING AROUND A PETITION IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION. I HOPE THE FEW FOLKS SIGNED IT AND THAT IT DISAPPEARED. IRONICALLY, THAT [00:55:07] FOLKS SUBJECT RESIDED IN AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET THEY COULD NOT BE BUILT TODAY. TO CONCLUDE, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE VIRTUALLY MISSED THE RECENT EIGHT-YEAR REAL ESTATE ECONOMIC RECOVERY WHICH LED MOST CITIES IN FLORIDA TO BE FLUSH WITH REVENUES DUE TO PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES IN LOWER MILLAGE RATES. OUR RESIDENTS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT NEED TO EMBRACE PROGRESS OR EXCEPT DRIVING ON THESE ROADS FOR YEARS TO COME. PLEASE WELCOME THIS NEW HOME AND DEMONSTRATE TO THE PUBLIC THAT FORT PIERCE IS WILLING TO PROGRESS AND DISPEL ITS LONG-STANDING NO GROWTH REPUTATION. AND I HAVE ANOTHER FROM CHARLES HAYEK OF 1111 FERNANDINA STREET. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MEMBERS. THE ISSUE CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ABOUT FIVE YEARS DURING MY TERM ON THE BOARD. RESIDENTS OPPOSE THE APPROVAL OF THAT STRUCTURE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ARCHITECTURE. IT HAD AN ART DECO DESIGN WITH A FLAT ROOF. ALTHOUGH THAT PROPOSED HOUSE WAS ABOUT FOUR FOOT HIGHER THAN THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THE PLANNING BOARD PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THIS STRUCTURE HAS A STANDARD ROOF AND MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE DESIGN OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. ALSO, AT THE COMMISSION MEETING DURING THE DISCUSSION OF INCREASING THE POLICE BUDGET ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM A COMMISSION WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO INCREASE DEVELOPMENT SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY TO INCREASE BUDGETS. IF WE LIMIT CONSTRUCTION ON OUR OCEANFRONT PROPERTIES, BUYERS AND INVESTORS WILL GO ELSEWHERE TO BUILD ON THE OCEAN. PLEASE VOTE TO APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE. THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ALTHOUGH I WOULD ASK IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANY CLOSING REMARKS. YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE THEM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CLOSING REMARKS. NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW, WE WERE BACK TO THE COMMISSION WE ARE CLOSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL ENTERTAIN -- MR. JOHNSON? >> THANK YOU MA'AM. A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE TODAY. THE ARCHITECT AND THE APPLICANT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES. WE'VE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE, OR LEAST I DID, FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS THAT HAD SIMILAR RECOMMENDATIONS OF REDUCING FLOOR HEIGHTS AND CEILING HEIGHTS PER FLOOR THAT WOULD REDUCE THE OVERALL ELEVATION. IN COMPARING WHAT WE REVIEWED IN 2017, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE FEATURES ARE ABOUT 45 FEET AND I EVEN -- HERE ON THIS DISPLAY, I BELIEVE THAT THAT ELEVATOR SHAFT WAS TRYING TO INCORPORATE AS AN ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENT AND THAT IS BEEN REMOVED. SO NOT ONLY HAVE WE GONE FROM 45 TO 41, DICK WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT 48 IF I REMEMBER. BUT AS MY MEMORY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS MOMENT. BUT IT'S MORE THAN THE 45 FEET. AND SO, THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE HERE FROM AVALON, I THINK MR. WYNN, YOU TALKED ABOUT 38 FEET FROM THE STREET HERE WE ARE AT A 41. THAT'S BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT CONFUSED. BUT I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF GOOD DONE HERE WITH THIS DESIGN. THE DESIGN HAS GOT SOME ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENTS THAT -- AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING EARLIER WITH THE BLUE RENDITION IS A VERY NICE TOUCH TO THE BEACH AND I THINK WE ARE RIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN A SPACE, FITTING IT ON THE PROPERTY PROTECTING THE DEW LINE AND THEN GETTING BELOW THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS. SOME GOOD WITH THE PRESENTATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >> I WAS HOPING TO HEAR -- ANYTIME THAT YOU HAVE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION, WE ARE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD HERE, SOME LISTENING FOR THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK OR THAT WE CAN VOTE AGAINST IT OR WHATEVER. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT ALL HAVE SEEN HIS IMPROVEMENTS OVER WHAT WE HAVE APPROVED IN 2017. THE -- THE COMPLAINTS -- THIS INCLUDES SOME OF THE EMAIL COMPLAINTS I GOT DUNE IMPACT. IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED I THINK PLUS THE FACT THAT THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THAT IS FDEP I'M SURE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYTHING GET AWAY FROM THEM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THEY VARDY WEIGHED IN ON IT, RIGHT? >> THE VIEW, IF I LIVED IN AVALON ON THE EIGHTH FLOOR ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, I WOULD BE SQUAWKING ALSO. BUT REALLY, URE THAT AGAINST THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE PROPERTY OWNER PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS CERTAIN 55 FOOT SQUARE AND THEY SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING AVAILABLE TO THEM TO DEVELOP THAT IN ANY WAY THAT IS ALLOWABLE BY LAW. AND WE HAVE MADE THIS CONDITIONAL USE. WE HAVE MADE THIS AVAILABLE TO THE SYSTEM. AND [01:00:01] IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THERE IS A LOT OF VACANT PROPERTY ALL THE WAY FROM OCEAN VILLAGE ALL THE WAY TO THE JETTY. I'M HAPPIER WITH THE DESIGN THAT I SEE IN FRONT OF ME NOW BECAUSE THAT MAY BE THE STARTING POINT FOR MOST OF THESE FOLKS COMING IN HERE ON THESE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SMALLER LOTS. I MEAN IF YOU TAKE A RIDE DOWN ON ANYONE A INTO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE SALT BOXES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, ONLY BELIEVE ME, THIS IS MUCH MORE OF AN IMPROVEMENT. I'M SORRY THE IMPACTS AVALON ARE THERE, BUT WE NEED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FROM THE PRESENTATION AND I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING AT ALL. IN FACT, I'M EMBRACING THE PRESENTATION AND WOULD SUPPORT IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS SESSIONS? >> I KNOW WE HAVE COME A LONG WAYS FROM WHERE WE WERE IN THE BEGINNING AND THE APPLICANT PROBABLY FELT LIKE THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT I HAD REALLY THOUGHT AT LEAST A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT I WOULD NORMALLY BITE INTO UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND I THINK THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL WELL JOB IN TERMS OF TRYING TO ADHERE TO THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS GET THE BEST BANG FOR THE DOLLAR IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ARCHITECTURE. AS YOU POINTED OUT, THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO SET PRECEDENTS IN TERMS OF THAT TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE. AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING TO START FROM, CERTAINLY SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS IN THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF EMPTY PROPERTY OUT THERE AND THE LOTS ARE SMALL. BUT SOMETHING AS NICE AS THIS -- AND THEY'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SOLD IT AND LEFT IT. BUT IN LIGHT OF THE AREA AND WHAT WE HAVE, THEY DIDN'T GIVE UP. THEY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT AND I'M READY TO START COLLECTING TAXES ON IT. I'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE THAT NEED SOME MONEY. AND NOT JUST GOES -- IN TERMS OF WHAT WERE DOING HERE. WE HAVE SOMETHING GREAT TO OFFER IN OUR TAX BASE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO START A LOT OF PEOPLE GET DISCOURAGED BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE FIGHTING CITY HALL. AS YOU SAID EARLIER BENT OVER BACKWARDS. I THINK AT THIS POINT -- I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, BUT I THINK TO SOME DEGREE, WHAT MORE CAN WE DO? COMMISSIONER PERRONE POINTED OUT LEGALLY WE DO NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON. IT DOES NOT IMPROVE SAFETY HAZARDOUS ISSUES THAT WE COULD EVEN DENY ON IT AT THIS POINT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. ALEXANDER? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT A BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE IS COMING INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO WELCOME THE OWNER AND MOVE FORWARD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. ACCESS TO. >> JUST ONE MORE COMMENT. I APPLAUD AVALON BEACH CLUB BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIC LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET TO PRESERVE THE PROPERTY FOR THE BEACHFRONT IN THE ACCESS POINT AND IT IS AT AN INTERSECTION WITH A CROSSWALK AND THEY CAN -- THEY HAVE THE VIEW OF THE OCEAN RIGHT IN FRONT. SO THAT IS -- TALK ABOUT FORETHOUGHT, THERE IT IS. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF IT. AND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. SO I THINK IT IS A GREAT PRODUCT SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF CONDITIONS. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL). >>MAYOR HUDSON: CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS A [b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and Approval of an application for Conditional Use with no new construction submitted by property owner and applicant, Ann F. Harris, to establish a Dwelling Rental, offering lodging for less than six (6) months, with a minimum rental period of 31 days at 722 Granada Street, Unit A, Fort Pierce, FL.The property is zoned Hutchinson Island Medium Density Residential Zone (R-4A), Parcel ID: 2401-503-0094-000-6.] QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT AND HARRIS TO [01:05:04] ESTABLISH A DWELLING RENTAL OFFERING LODGING FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS WITH A MINIMUM RENTAL PERIOD OF 31 DAYS AT 722 GRANADA STREET UNIT A IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY RUNS -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: THE QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE IN PLACE AND SO MADAME CLARK, HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET WITH THIS ITEM. >> YES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COULD YOU AS THE COMMISSIONERS FOR EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, HAVE YOU HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? >> NO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> NO, MA'AM.. NO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >> NO. >> COMMISSIONERS SESSIONS. >> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON. >>MAYOR HUDSON: NO, MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WE WILL NOW HAVE HER HEARING AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES? >> WHAT ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? (SWEARING IN OF THE WITNESSES.). >>MAYOR HUDSON: NOW, IT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE STAFFS APPLICATION PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING. CITY COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION BY THE APPLICANT AND HERE IS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 722 GRANADA STREET UNIT A. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GULFSTREAM AVENUE AND GRANADA STREET AND IS APPROXIMATELY .16 ACRES. SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF HIR HUTCHINSON ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WITH A ZONING OF HUTCHINSON ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WITH A ZONING OF R-4A. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE TO OPERATE THE DWELLING RENTAL FOR LODGING LESS THAN SIX MONTHS WITH A MINIMAL OF 31 DAYS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AGE CONDITIONS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT IN YOUR PACKET THE WORST SEVEN CONDITIONS. BUT DUE TO A MISTAKE WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH SOMETHING THAT, IN THE CITY CODE THAT IS REQUIRED. FOR THE SIDEWALKS. SO HERE IS A BRIEF SYNOPSIS. ORDINANCE K Ã114 PASSED IN 2001. FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IN 2011 PROHIBITS CITIES FROM DENYING SHORT-TERM RENTAL USES ARE ALLOWED QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING, THERE'S NO VALIDATED EVIDENCE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE, NO CODE ENFORCEMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENT VIOLATIONS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE BEING ADDED TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WERE 182 NOTIFICATION SENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. SEVEN IN FAVOR 13 IN OPPOSITION. HERE ARE THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE USE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS WITH NO CHANGES APPROVED WITH CHANGES OR DENY CONDITIONAL USE. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO EIGHT CONDITIONS PROPERTY MANAGER SHALL BE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES TO RESOLVE COMPLAINTS OF VIOLATIONS OF CITY CODE. 2 GUIDE BOOKLETS AVAILABLE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT SHALL BE PROVIDED TO RENTERS REGARDING LOCAL RULES AND PUBLIC SURFACE RESOURCES TO MINIMIZE CONFLICTS. 3 THE APPLICANT SHALL FILE FOR SAINT COUNTY -- ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND CITY OF FORT PIERCE BUSINESS TAX LICENSES. IT SHALL BE INCLUDED ON ADVERTISING. 6 THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF THE HOME SHALL ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE SECTION 8.5-43. 7 PAVED THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES PER CITY CODE SECTION 22-60 SUBSECTION C SUB CERTAIN SET OF SURFACE MATERIAL AND MADE PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 22-62 SIDEWALKS. PLEASE INSTALL A SIDEWALK ALONG GRANADA STREET OR SUBMIT PAYMENT IN LIEU OF WITHIN 90 DAYS OF CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? >> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. THERE IS NO APPLICANT PRESENTATION. AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE HEARING AND WE WILL DISCUSS AMONG OURSELVES AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> JUST TO COMMENT, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE STAFF CONDITIONS THAT WAS DIFFERENT OR ENHANCED ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST. DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT CHANGED? THE CONSISTENT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: EXCEPT THE [01:10:02] SIDEWALK THING IS THAT ALWAYS IN THEIR. >> THAT'S OCCASIONALLY AND THERE. >> IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NO, I DID NOT. MONOMERIC? >> COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >> ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE LOOK AT IS IN MANY OF THE CONDITIONAL USES THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE OWNER OF SEARING FORT PIERCE OR PORT ST. LUCIE OR SOMEWHERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THESE FOLKS LIVE IN ATLANTA? >> YES. >> AND THEY HAVE A LOCAL MANAGER THAT HAS BEEN RETAINED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. NOW, THE QUESTION IS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOCAL MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS. AND I KNOW -- I THINK I READ THROUGH YOUR WHERE THEY EVENTUALLY -- WHEN THEIR LIVES GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WANT TO GET SOME TYPE OF CALMNESS AND FUNDS THE DEMO BACK TO FORT PIERCE. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY DOES (LAUGHING) I MEAN SOME OF US HAVE MOVED THERE EARLIER ON FOR THE FUN ANYWAY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS PART OF THE CONDITION AND IF THAT SHOULD CHANGE IT ANYWAY, THAT WOULD AFFECT THE APPROVAL ON THIS CONDITIONAL RENTAL, RIGHT. >> IF I MAY, MATTER MAYOR? >> YES. AS YOU WILL HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR VACATION RENTALS AND DWELLING RENTALS IN THE FIRST ONE IS ALWAYS A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER WHO IS LOCAL AND REGISTER WITH STATE LATE REGISTERED WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WHEN IT DOES COME IN FOR BTR WE CHECK THAT. >> YOU REQUIRE THEM TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS AND GIVE YOU CONTACT INFORMATION OR THE CLERK DOES? >> RIGHT. >> GO AHEAD. >> CAN YOU PUT THE CONDITIONERS ON WOW THE CONDITIONS UP. >> IT'S KIND OF LONG. THIS IS THE FIRST SET. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PERRONE. >> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY BECAUSE THESE TYPES OF CONDITIONAL USES ARE STARTING TO COME MORE FREQUENTLY. HOW IS OUR PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR VACATION RENTAL OR SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMPARED TO MOST COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA? I KNOW THERE'S -- I THINK THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT STAGES FROM PREOP TO ADD UP TO TECHNICAL REVIEW AS IT GOES DOWN THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND I KNOW EACH ONE HAS A VALUE AND FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, ARE WE, AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS IN ALL OF THE -- ALL THE ASPECTS THAT THE COMMISSION EXPECTS TO GET OUT OF THIS BY THE TIME HE GETS TO US? >> MATTER MAYOR? WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST GETTING STARTED IN DOING THIS RESEARCH. FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR SIDE SO I WAS NOT DEALING WITH VACATION RENTALS. WE ARE LOOKING AT DATA NEXT WEEK, WE ARE HOLDING A WORKSHOP WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. AND OUR GOAL IS TO WALK OUT OF THERE HAVING REVIEWED OUR CONDITIONS MODIFYING THEM ADDING TO THEM AND LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS MORE ENFORCEABLE. WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMBER ONE HAS A REALLY GOOD METHOD TO NOT ONLY REQUIRE THE PROPERTY MANAGER FOR THE UNSIGNED MAINTENANCE FOR THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING, BUT ALSO TO ASSIST IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROPERTY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN HAVING THAT RELIANCE SOLELY ON POLICE AND -- ON THE WEEKENDS IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN OR CODE DURING THE WEEK. BUT PERHAPS MAKE THE PROPERTY MANAGER MORE ACCOUNTABLE. BUT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE AND WE WILL HAVE THE PRESENTATION NEXT WEEK. SO THAT WILL BE AT 1 PM MEETING WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. BUT I'VE YET -- I HAVE NOT COMPLETED THAT YET. >> SO IF WE ARE NOT IN THIS PANDEMIC THAT WE ARE, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE NORMAL, BUT I GUESS THAT NORMAL HAS LEFT AND WERE GOING TO HAVE A NEW NORMAL. SOMEBODY DISINTERESTEDNESS CONDITIONAL USE, WHAT CAN THEY EXPECT? I KNOW YOU HAVE THE FORMS ALREADY TO GO, THE APPLICATION. I'VE READ THROUGH. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. IF I STARTED TODAY, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE ME. >> IS TIME-CONSUMING BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN THE CODE. SO VACATION RENTALS, AND DWELLING RENTALS, THEY ARE CONTROLLED UNDER OUR CODE UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. IT'S CONDITIONAL USE WITHOUT CONSTRUCTION. BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PREOP, THE TRC, THE PLANNING BOARD AND ULTIMATELY, THE CITY COMMISSION. RIGHT THERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR MONTHS. AND WE REALLY, AS A CITY, WE ONLY CAN REGULATE BY PUTTING CONDITIONS AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS IN OUR CODE RIGHT NOW. BUT THE STATE, THROUGH [01:15:06] PROFESSIONAL REGULATION ARE THOSE THAT ARE ANNUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE INSPECTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE REGULATORY AGENCY. WE HAVE FALLEN INTO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN OUR CODE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CITIES OR THE COUNTY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE COUNTY HAS THAT BUT I'M JUST BEGINNING TO DO THAT RESEARCH. >> I THINK COUNTIES ARE DIFFERENCES CITIES AS FAR AS THAT GOES. I MEAN I KNOW -- I THINK INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, YOU WALK IN, YOU PAY A FEE. >> THERE'S A TAX RECEIPT. >> YOU ARE RENTING THE NEXT WEEK. I'M NOT SAYING THAT HAS TO BE REALLY FAST. FOUR MONTHS SOUNDS A LITTLE LONG TO ME. I'D RATHER IT BE 90 DAYS,IN THAT RANGE. BUT DRAFT OF THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON ITS. A LOT OF TIMES, IF IT WASN'T 30 DAYS A LOT OF TIMES IT'S DONE BEFORE YOU FIND OUT ABOUT IT. I WANT TO BE THAT WAY ABOUT THE WHOLE THING. THE COMMISSION HAS ALWAYS SAID THAT WE WANTED THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT. I JUST DO NOT WANT TO BE THE ONES I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. IT TAKES YOU SIX MONTHS TO GET THE PROCESS DONE. AND THEN THEY KEEP FINDING THINGS TO SEND YOU BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ALL THE TIME. I'M NOT SAYING THAT HAPPENS HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT IN A DYNAMIC CITY THAT WE HAVE. >> I, MORE THAN ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT STREAMLINED. WE HAVE A LOT OF VACATION RENTALS COMING AND THERE IS NEW CONSTRUCTION BUT HE GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY -- IF THERE'S NOT A DRIVEWAY WELDER REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY. YOU ARE ENHANCING THE PROPERTY. IF WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THESE -- SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS, ENFORCEABLE, DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE UNITS LOOK BETTER THAN A LOT OF OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER TO MANAGE ALL OF THEM WERE WE WILL HAVE A LIST. WILL HAVE THEM REGISTERED. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN BE TIME-CONSUMING FOR PETITIONERS BECAUSE IT IS FOUR MONTHS AND RIGHT NOW, I HAVE TO TREAT EVERYONE THE SAME. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE MAKING FIVE CONDITIONS PRETTY MUCH FOR THESE STANDARD CONDITIONS. IF THERE IS ANYTHING SITE-SPECIFIC LIKE THE SIDEWALKS WERE A DRIVEWAY, THEN WE WOULD ADD THOSE. >> AGAIN, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF BEFORE PEOPLE BROUGHT PROPERTIES THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR THAT THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS TIED OUR HANDS IN ANY OTHER WAY, REALLY. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TWEAK AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. >> AND MATTER MAYOR, WITH THIS PROCESS BEING A CONDITIONAL USE, A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING THEY BEEN PREEMPTED BY THE STATE. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO MONITOR AND PERHAPS THAT IS WHY SOME OF THESE COUNTIES, OTHER AREAS, DON'T HAVE A PROCESS BECAUSE THEY NEVER HAD ONE IN PLACE AND WE DID IN 2001 AND THE WHEN THE REGULATIONS CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2011, IT VESTED US. >> WE WERE GRANDFATHERED IN. >> EXACTLY. WE WERE LUCKY. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> A QUESTION FOR YOU. JUST TO PICK YOUR BRAIN A LITTLE BIT. YOU SAY WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE THAT ARE ON THEIR WAY, DO YOU HAVE A REASON FOR SAYING THAT ARE WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY. >> RIGHT NOW ON PROCESSING, IN ADDITION TO THIS ONE, FIVE OR SIX MORE. SO JUST IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS YOU WILL SEE ONE JULY 20, AUGUST 3 YOU WILL SEE THREE AND THEN THERE ARE THREE MORE THEY JUST CAME IN ON FRIDAY. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST -- OUR HANDS ARE TIED. I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES THE COMMUNITY HEAR OR SEE WHAT'S GOING ON FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT? WELL I'LL STAY AWAY FROM THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WE HAVE TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE (LAUGHING). >> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF WE ARE THROUGH WITH DISCUSSION. >> IMO FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS. >> IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PICK (LAUGHING). >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> YES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. [01:20:04] >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERRONE. >> BID. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. >>.[BLEEP] DEE. >> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. NO. >> THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF [c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and Approval of an application for Conditional Use with new construction submitted by property owner and applicant, Palmieri Design Planning LLC, to construct and establish a 59,362 square foot Assisted Living Facility with 56-units at 1600 N Lawnwood Circle, Fort Pierce, FL.The property is zoned Medium Density Residential Zone (R-4), Parcel ID: 2416-504-0211-000-2.] AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT PULMONARY DESIGN PLANNING LLC TO CONSTRUCT AND ESTABLISH A 59,362 SQUARE FOOT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. 456 UNITS AT 1600 N. LONGWOOD CIRCLE IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, R-4A. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SO OUR PROCEDURES ARE IN PLACE. MADAME CLARK, HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM? >> YES, MA'AM. WE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL OPEN THE HEARING. WILL THE CITY CLERK PLEASE SWEARING ANY WITNESSES THAT PLAN TO SPEAK? >> WILL ANYONE IS PUSHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE, STAND AND RAISE YOUR HAND. (WHEREUPON, THE WITNESSES WERE SWORN IN.). >>MAYOR HUDSON: CITY STAFF WILL NOW MAKE HIS PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING MATTER MAYOR, THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR A VETERANS ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AT 1600 N. LONGWOOD CIRCLE. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 2.21 ACRES AND IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF JERSEY AVENUE AND SOUTH 17TH CIRCLE. THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE ZONING OF MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL R-4. THE BUILDING WILL HAVE 69,352 SQUARE FEET AND WILL CONSIST OF 39 PARKING SPACES. ONLY 28 SPACES WERE REQUIRED BUT THE APPLICANT INCREASED A FEW PARKING SPACES. THE BUILDING WILL CONSIST OF -- IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING. SMOOTH, STUCCO SIDING CALVIN COLOR WALL EXTERIOR AND ALMONDS COLOR PAINTED TRIM. TREES ARE BEING PROVIDED WILL INCLUDE 71 TREES AND 70 PALMS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH FIVE CONDITIONS. ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOTIFIED WITH 37 NOTIFICATION SIX WERE IN FAVOR AND THREE WERE IN OPPOSITION. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE COMMISSION ARE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS, NO CHANGES APPROVED WITH CHANGES OR DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS. NUMBER ONE PROVIDE A SEGREGATED ENTRANCE TO REFUSE AREA FOR EMPLOYEES ACCESS. 2, SIDEWALKS. SIDEWALKS AND SIDEWALK -- SHALL BE INSTALLED IN PUBLIC OR PRIVATE RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND THEY WILL BE PARALLEL TO THE STREET. NUMBER THREE, PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK LINKAGE NEAR THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OR LOCATE THE SIDEWALK LINKAGE. SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE BOND PRIOR TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. AND NUMBER FIVE PER CODE SECTION 22- -- PLEASE ADHERE TO THE LIGHTING PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF TWO FOOTCANDLES. THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS? >> IS THERE A COORDINATION THAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH TRANSIT OR COMMUNITY TRANSIT TYPE APPLICATIONS? IF THIS IS A VETERANS FACILITY, HOW DO WE GET THE FOLKS TO AND FROM IF THEY NEED THAT TRANSIT OPTION. >> I HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT. >> ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE AMENITIES OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY? >> I'M NOT SURE. I HAVE TO DEFER. >> THE APPLICANT IS PROBABLY TAKING NO SOLICITING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: (LAUGHING). >> THIS APPLICATION, AS ALL OF OURS IS DISTRIBUTED TO TRC AND OUR TRANSIT PLANNER. SHE RECEIVES THESE APPLICATIONS AS WELL. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> EXCUSE ME. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT, CAN WE DO EX PARTE PAY -- EX PARTE HE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> NO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. [01:25:03] >> NO I DIDN'T. >> MAYOR HUDSON? >>MAYOR HUDSON: NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? AND IF YOU WILL SIGN IT FOR ME, PLEASE. BEFORE YOU START, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF FROM THE PRESENTATION. >> WE DO NOT. >> HE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. IT'S BEEN AN EASY PROCESS. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU CAN BE EXCUSE, THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS WELLS -- WESLEY MILLS. OUR ADDRESS IS FEAR BEACH FLORIDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WILL USE MORNING? >> YES, MA'AM. >> AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> SO, THERE WILL BE A VAN AS PART OF THE FACILITY. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE LIVING. EVERYONE WILL LIVE WITHIN THE PREMISES AND THERE WILL BE A VAN, SHUTTLE SERVICE, BUT THEY WON'T BE DRIVING WERE THE NEED OF LIKE A TRANSIT STOP. >> THE COUNTY HAS SERVICES I WANT YOU TO MAKE -- BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE SERVICES AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY AND ALSO PARTNER WITH THE CITY FORT PIERCE. THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY DO THAT AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE EXTERIOR AMENITIES. THE PLAN SHOWED A COVERED PATIO. >> THE PATIO OR GARDEN AREA IS TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE PROPERTY AT THE REAR OF THE SITE. THERE IS A FENCE AROUND IT AND IT PLANS TO BE LANDSCAPED AND MORE LIKE A GARDEN AREA. SO THAT IS THE EXTERIOR FACILITY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >> SO THIS IS KIND OF EXCITING THAT WE ARE DOING THIS -- IT'S PRIMARILY FOR VETERANS AND PATRIOTS, RIGHT? TELL ME ABOUT HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. >> YES, MA'AM. SO ACTUALLY, THE OWNER AND OPERATOR, HE IS HERE AND HE CAN GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IS LIKE YOUR TYPICAL ALF IS FAR SERVICES AND AMENITIES. IN ADDITION, THEY PROVIDE MEMORY CARE AND IT IS FOCUSED FOR AMERICAN VETERANS TO HELP WITH THE NEED AN AFFORDABLE FACILITIES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. GOOD. OKAY. >> WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO THIS AREA? >> SO I BELIEVE THE OWNER HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND IS TRYING -- HE'S HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT IDEAS AND AS PART OF -- THIS IS PART OF A LARGER GROUP THAT DOES THIS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. SO IN PARTNERING WITH MR. PALMERI, THEY'RE LOOKING AT FACILITIES IN NORTH CAROLINA, TEXAS ÃMAKE IT SEEM LIKE A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR THIS FACILITY. AND A NEED, A BIG NEED WITHIN THIS AREA. >> I AGREE. WE CERTAINLY NEED SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN TERMS OF THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, ESPECIALLY FOR VETERANS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD, SIGN IN AND LET ME KNOW -- HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? >> YES. >> OKAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR? >> I'M DAVID EARL, I'M FROM STEWART FLORIDA SUBJECT -- I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENTS, THE LONGWOOD PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE 292 UNIT DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE. NICE PROJECT, BUT IT CAME UP [01:30:03] SUDDENLY FOR MY CLIENT. I THINK THE NOTIFICATIONS OCCURRED HERE IN JUNE, IN JUNE. WILL WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, IT REFERENCES WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER DRAINAGE IN PARTICULAR THAT IS GOING TO USE THE LONGWOOD COMMUNITY STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM, WHICH WE VIEW IS OURS AND IF YOU KNOW IN THAT AREA, THERE ARE TWO LARGE LAKES THAT ARE THE STORM WATER TRAIN LEGS. YOU REMEMBER THE MAYFAIR PROJECT. WE WERE HERE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND WITH YOUR STAFF ON THE MAYFAIR PROJECT TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THAT JOINT STORMWATER SYSTEM. WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION AND IT USE THAT PHRASEOLOGY, IT WAS SORT OF LIKE AN EPIPHANY LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. I INQUIRED OF STAFF, WHO DIRECTLY TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING TO SPEAK WITH MR. MILLS, FEARING NICE CONVERSATION AND HE WAS NOT REALLY ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS WITH ME OTHER THAN REFERENCE THE PERMITTING THAT LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT MAYBE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM. AS IT SITS, THERE'S NO AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF -- WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE EXISTING SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT PERMITS IN HISTORY TO SEE WHAT PARTICIPATION THEY WOULD HAVE IN IT, IF INDEED THEY INTEND TO USE OUR SYSTEM. MAYBE HE'S GOT MORE INFORMATION THAT HE COULD ADD SINCE WE HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY? BUT, HAVING A LACK OF INFORMATION REGARDING STORMWATER DRAINAGE -- IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT IS AN ISSUE, AS YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER. WE'VE GOT FLOODED CONCERNS IN THAT AREA. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO MY CLIENTS THAT THIS BE CLEAR AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PERMITTING SOMETHING OR IF IT IS BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL USE, BUT IN THE MAYFAIR APPLICATION, A CONDITION WAS CREATED THAT THERE BE AN EXISTING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES THAT WAS EFFECTIVE REGARDING CONTRIBUTION AND PARTICIPATION AND PERMITTING. I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY AT THIS MOMENT, IF THEY INTEND OR IF THEIR BELIEF IS THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THAT STORMWATER SYSTEM, WE NEED TO SOLVE ALL THOSE ISSUES. NOW IS THE TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. >> IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION? >> YES AND THAT PREVIOUS -- DID YOU COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR MAINTENANCE IN ADDITION. >> YOU SAID. >> TO THE REFERENT. >> YES, SIR. MUCH LIKE YOU WILL SEE IN THESE TYPES OF SETTINGS IN THE MAYFAIR SHOE. WE HAD A LONG-STANDING DECLARATION AND COVENANT, SORT OF MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WE PRESENT BUDGETS EVERY YEAR AND THAT'S WHAT'S DONE. >> I WOULD ALSO SEEM TO RECALL THERE WAS A BOUNDARY MAP OF STORMWATER CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR INTERNAL NETWORKS. WAS THIS PARCEL INCLUDED IN THAT MAP? >> I'M NOT REMEMBERING ANY OF THAT THS PARCEL BEING INCLUDED IN IT, BUT THIS -- WE HAVE TO DO THE RESEARCH BECAUSE IT -- THE MAYFAIR PROJECT COMES FROM AN OLD DEVELOPERS CONCEPT FOR THAT AREA. SO, WE MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVEN'T DONE THE RESEARCH BECAUSE THIS CAME UP SO QUICKLY. WE NEED A LITTLE TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT AND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY STEPS UP AND IS PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> IS A. >> IN LIGHT OF THE MAYFAIR PROJECT, AS YOU SEE IT AND I TAKE IT THERE'S AN INFERENCE TO BE DRAWN THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME THING FOR THE MOST PART IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERED HERE, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DID YOU SPEAK WITH STAFF OR HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THEM OR THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES OR IS THIS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAD TO COME BEFORE US? >> FIRST OPPORTUNITY IS PROBABLY GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. IT'S VERY FLUID. I LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION LAST WEEK. DISCOVERED THE REFERENCE WITHIN THE APPLICATION TO THE LONGWOOD COMMUNITY DRAINAGE SYSTEM. I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. I CALLED STEPHANIE DIRECTED ME TO THE APPLICANT TO I SPOKE TO. WE TELEPHONE TAG OVER THE HOLIDAY REALLY AND WE SPOKE THIS MORNING. SO REALLY, MY FIRST QUESTION IS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR SYSTEM? OR [01:35:12] IS THERE SOMETHING SEPARATE YOU ARE DEALING WITH? AND IF THE ANSWER IS IT'S OUR SYSTEM, WHAT YOU WRITE? IS IT PART OF THE PERMIT? IS IT PART OF THE LONG-STANDING UNDERSTANDING AND IF SO, THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, OBVIOUSLY THE SYSTEM HAS CHANGED, EVEN IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS YOU KNOW WITH MAYFAIR, WE'VE REMODELED THE SYSTEM TO A DEGREE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS AND GET -- TYPICALLY WHAT I SAID TO MR. MILLS IS WHAT I WOULD DO IN THIS CASE IS WE WOULD GET OUR ENGINEER AND MEET WITH YOU. WE COULD FIGURE OUT IF WHAT IS OUR SOLUTION. WHERE DO WE GO? AND THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS THAT WE UNDERTOOK WITH MAYFAIR ALTHOUGH IT WAS A LITTLE MORE ATTENUATED WITH MAYFAIR BECAUSE THERE WAS JUST A LOT MORE ISSUES TO DEAL WITH AND IT TOOK A FEW YEARS, BUT WE GOT IT DONE. SO YEAH. AND IT WAS A CONDITION OF DEVELOPMENT. THAT CANNOT BE RESOLVED. >> THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD? ANYONE ELSE. >> HAD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK AND SAY ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. EARL. SO, WE JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE PROJECT IN 2006, THE SITE RECEIVED CONSTRUCTION PERMITS AND DEVELOPMENT STARTED. INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IN THE GROUND, DRAINAGE PIPES WERE TIED INTO THE ROAD SYSTEM. PRIOR TO THAT -- RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DRAINAGE CONNECTION INTO THE SYSTEM. BUT PRIOR TO THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE IN 1982, 96 ACRES WAS PART OF THE LONGWOOD DEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDED OUR SITE AND IT FORESAW SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND ESTIMATED THE AMOUNT OF FLOW THAT IT WOULD ANTICIPATE ONCE ALL THE SITES WERE DEVELOPED. SO, TO THAT PERMIT, OUR PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE STORMWATER SYSTEM FOR THE LONGWOOD DEVELOPMENT IS ACCOUNTED FOR. REGARDLESS OF THOSE MASTER PERMITS EMPLOYEES, BY NO MEANS DO WE PLAN ON BEING A BAD NEIGHBOR OR TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD WITHOUT THIS RESOLVED. MY CLIENT IS SPENDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS HE DOES NOT WANT TO IMPACT NEIGHBORS OR IMPACTS THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM. SO AS PART OF THAT, I CAN ASSURE YOU WERE GOING TO MEET WITH MR. EARL AND HIS ENGINEERS. BOTH SIDES WILL WANT TO GET COMFORTABLE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DEVELOP THAT THE STORMWATER WILL BE HANDLED IN A WAY THAT IT DOES NOT IMPACT US AS WELL AS HIM. ANY AGREEMENT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: NO MORE FLOODING WET. >> I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT. >> AS THE BOTTOM LINE. >> THE BIGGEST THING IS WE'VE BEEN GOING AT THIS PROJECT FOR TWO YEARS. WE ARE HERE FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FOR THE USES. WE GOT POSTPONED BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING WITH THE PANDEMIC. SO I WOULD HOPE -- UNHAPPY AS FAR AS THE CONDITION GOES. WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM. WE STILL HAVE SOUTH FLORIDA PROJECTS TO GET APPROVED. WE STILL HAVE OUR LDP PERMITS. SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE DON'T HOLD UP THE PROCESS ANY FURTHER FOR DETAIL THAT HAS TO BE FLUSHED THROUGH AND WE OBVIOUSLY WILL. >> MATTER MAYOR? >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WAS GOING TO SAY, TO. >> YOU STATED THAT THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS IN PLACE AND YOU'RE LEAVING IT AS IT WAS INSTALLED? >> IN 2006 IT WAS A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT ISSUED AND THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION. IT WAS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. I BELIEVE MY CLIENT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT TOOK PLACE IN THOSE TIMES THE PROJECT SHUT DOWN AT THE DRAINAGE, THE SEWER AND WATER EVERYTHING IS IN THE GROUND PER THE PLANS ARE GONNA RIP OUT A LOT OF THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK WITH OUR NEW SITE PLAN. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW IS CONNECTED. >> THIS IS THE PARCEL WITH ALL OF THE SEWER SETUPS. >> YES. OKAY. SO THE BIG THING IS ARE YOU -- YOU TALKED ABOUT ALL THAT. USUALLY THERE IS A -- FROM AN EXISTING OWNER STANDPOINT, THERE WOULD BE A WORRY OF WHATEVER THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MIGHT BE, IF THERE IS SUCH A THING. LOOK AT THE PDESIGN NUMBERS YOU SAID THE ORIGINAL DESIGN INCLUDED AL THIS AREA, POTENTIALLY, RIGHT. SO IS YOUR APPLICANT OR YOUR -- AS A REPRESENTATIVE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH A MAINTENANCE TYPE AGREEMENT? THAT WOULD BE A SHARED COST OVER TIME. IF YOU CONNECT TO IT TO -- IF IT WAS A CITY SYSTEM YOU WOULD PAY THE TAXES WHICH STORMWATER UTILITY WOULD COVER THE COST OF MAINTENANCE. IN THIS CASE, IT [01:40:05] LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY OWNER OWNED. >> YES. I SUSPECT WE ARE NOT THE FIRST APPLICANT THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT A DEAL WITH MAYFAIR. I GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE BEFORE I WALKED IN HERE. AND BASICALLY EVEN THEIR CALCULATIONS POINT OUT THAT THE 82 DESIGN INCLUDED, BUT IT ALMOST LOOKED AS LIKE A CONCESSION OR ACKNOWLEDGING THERE WAS A SHORTAGE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY PUT IN ADDITIONAL. AS FAR AS AN ADDITIONAL COST GOES, IS OUR -- IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION IT GOES, IS JUST AS MUCH POWER STORMWATER SYSTEM AND MY CLIENTS INVESTING $10-$12 MILLION IN A PROJECT THAT HE DOES WANT TO FLOOD. SO I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. >> THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, TO THE SOUTH OF THESE PARCELS, TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THAT IS THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY WELL SYSTEM ALONG THE NEBRASKA, QUINCY, VIRGINIA AVENUE QUARTER WHICH SUPPLIES OUR DRINKING WATER AND WELLS. THAT IS A RECHARGE ZONE. ANYTHING YOU CAN DO WITH CONNECTING CANAL SYSTEMS AND OPEN LAKES THAT RECHARGES OR AQUIFER WHICH IS WHERE WE GET OUR DRINKING WATER FROM. SO JUST PART OF THE OVERALL 30,000 FOOT VIEW, BUT SOMETHING TO ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MUCH. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT. >> WE WOULD'VE HAD THIS WORKED OUT BUT HONESTLY UNTIL A FEW HOURS AGO, I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS AN ISSUE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL CLOSE THIS OUT NOW AND WE WILL DISCUSS THIS AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL AND ANY -- ANY DISCUSSION FOR MOTION? >> MATTER MAYOR, JUST TO COMMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CONDITIONS ARE GOOD AND WHAT HALF MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT AND MAY BE -- THE ATTIC CONDITION SUBJECT TO A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IF APPLICABLE. BUT I ALSO LOOKED AT STAFFS REPORTS. I THINK SOME OF THE COMMENTS WAS THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS SUBJECT TO ANOTHER REVIEW BEFORE THEY DO THEIR SITE PERMIT ONE OF THE PERMITS IS GOING TO CUE JACK AND TRACY AND THEIR STAFF AND THEY WILL GET INTO THIS EXACTLY. SO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE STAFF CONDITIONS AND ADDING ONE MORE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT WORK WITH THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION ON A STORMWATER MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IF IT'S APPLICABLE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS STORMWATER DESIGN. >> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: HAVE YOU GOT THAT, MS. COX. >> I DO. >> IS PENDING AND FOR DISCUSSION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE? >> SO, WHAT'S THE DELIVERABLE ON THAT? I'M TRYING TO -- I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> I'M WORKING WITH THEM BUT IT HASN'T BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. SO I UNDERSTAND WE ARE GOING IT'S JUST THAT THE INTENT IS THAT BY THE TIME WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THIS IS THAT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED. >> THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE BEFORE PROBABLY AND ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT, RIGHT? >> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. >> MADAME MAYOR. >> MR. SWEENEY, ICU. >> WE'VE GOT A LITTLE USED CAR DEALER ON YOU. >> HAS NO PROBLEM. AGAIN, IF YOU REFER TO THE BACKUP MATERIALS INCLUDING MR. ANDREWS THROUGH THE TRC PROCESS WHICH IS FROM JANUARY OF THIS YEAR OBVIOUSLY THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND WERE AWARE OF TIMING OF THINGS HAVING SLOWED DOWN. BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS IS DEGRADING, PAVING AND DRAINAGE PLANS HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY REVIEW AND WILL BE SUBJECT TO A MORE IN-DEPTH REVIEW. AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ALLUDED TO THERE IS ANOTHER TRIGGER AS COMMISSIONER PERRONE WAS SUGGESTING. THE WAY THAT THE MOTION IS MADE, IT IS CONTINGENT. IF IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THROUGH ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE THEN IS A NONISSUE. IF IT IS -- AND I IMAGINE MR. EARL WILL LET US KNOW THAT IT IS IF IT IS, THEN THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE. IT'S ALWAYS SUBJECT TO STAYING IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS. AND AS A CONDITION, IF IT WOULD BE REQUIRED AND ARGUABLY HE'D HAVE TO PROVE THAT IS REQUIRED AND IS NOT IN PLACE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AND OUT OF COMPLIANCE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ALF AND [01:45:02] THEN PEGGY AND/OR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, HAS ENFORCEMENT. AND WE TALK ABOUT THE FINES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, 80, 90, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHEN YOU HAVE A STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THE LIFE, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. I THINK IT IS A WIN-WIN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> WE ARE GOOD. >> WE ARE PROTECTING THE WHOLE PROCESS IN EVERYBODY'S INTEREST. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ARE WE READY TO VOTE? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL). >> THE NEXT ITEM IS ANOTHER [d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Culverhouse Replat (Thumbpoint Subdivision Replat) Block 1, Portion of Lot 28 and all of Lots 29 and 30 generally located at or near 1635 Thumb Point Drive] QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE CLOVER HOUSE REPLIED. IT'S A SUBDIVISION REPLIED A BLOCK ON A PORTION OF LOT 28 AND ALL OF LOTS 29 AND 30. GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 1635. >> OKAY. SO, HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM? >> YES, MA'AM. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SITE HAVE BEEN MET. >> IN WHICH YOU ASKED THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, PLEASE? >> I BE HAPPY TO. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> NOW. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> NO, MA'AM. >> PERMISSION -- COMMISSIONER PERONA AND COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE HEARING AND WILL ANYONE WHO'S GOING TO BE SWORN IN STAND IN THE CITY CLERK WAS WHERE YOU WIN. >> ANYONE'S WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? (WHEREUPON, THE WITNESSES WERE SWORN IN.). >>MAYOR HUDSON: FOR THE CITY STAFF MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE THUMB POINT SUBDIVISION. HERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE FUTURE LAND USE OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS THE SURROUNDING AREA IS AS WELL. WE HAVE A ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS THE R 1 AND 2. HERE IS THE PROPOSED PLAT. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY TWO AND HAVE LOTS AND CONVERT THEM INTO THREE LOTS THAT MEET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. IT'S FOUND WITHIN THE R1 ZONING DISTANT -- EACH LOT WILL HAVE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR THE DISTRICT. ONE OF THE LOTS HAS A HOUSE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE OTHER TWO WILL HAVE HOMES BUILT UPON THEM AS WELL. HERE'S THE PICTURE OF PROPOSED LOT 1. LOT 2. AND LOT THREE. ON JUNE 9 THE PLANNING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ONE MEMBER ABSTAINING AS A RESULT OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION STAFF HAS COPIES OF THE MYLARS IN OUR OFFICE READY FOR SIGNATURES IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED. THERE ARE THREE POSSIBLE ACTIONS. YOU MAY APPROVE THE PLAT WITH NO CHANGES SUBJECT TO CONDITION OF APPROVAL. YOU MAY APPROVE THE PLAT WITH CHANGES ANY CHANGES YOU MAKE THE RESULTING PLAT MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DISTRICT. IT CANNOT IMPOSE TIME FRAMES AND IT MUST RELATE TO THE PLAT ONLY. YOU MAY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED PLAT. THE MYLARS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> NO, I DO NOT. YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. PROCEED? >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF AS THEY MENTIONED, ALL THESE LOTS MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE MAINTAIN THE SETBACKS FOR THE EXISTING HOUSE THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE OWNER'S ATTORNEY, MR. FEE IS HERE IF [01:50:06] THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED ANSWERED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. >> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> WILLIAMS DAUGHTER, >>MAYOR HUDSON: -- DOES HE NEED TO SIGN IN? ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. WERE YOU SWORN IN? >> I WAS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WELCOME. IF YOU WILL SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD . >> MADAME MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MY NAME IS FRANK FEE. I'M A LAWYER AND I REPRESENT JOHN AND ROBERT CULVER HOUSE. THIS PROPERTY HAS A HISTORY WITH YOU AND IT SAYS HISTORY WITH ME AND I'M GLAD TO SAY THAT ALL ISSUES THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THIS PROPERTY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. MORTGAGES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. ALL WE NEED IS YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS PLAT. ONE OF THE LOTS IS UNDER CONTRACT AT A PRICE THAT WILL LIQUIDATE THE MORTGAGE AND MR. CULVER HOUSE HOUSE IS UNDERWAY. A NEW -- DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> WE'VE TAKEN TO LOTS OR TWO AND HAVE LOTS AND MOVE THEM INTO THREE AND WE STILL -- I KIND OF SAW -- I CAN'T SEE NUMBERS ANYMORE THAT CLEAR, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE ARE LARGE ENOUGH LOTS, THE THREE INDIVIDUAL LOTS ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE TYPE OF HOMES THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ON THAT COASTAL THUMB POINT AREA. >> THEY ALL EXCEED THE CITY'S MINIMUM, WHICH IS 12,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY ARE ALL IN EXCESS OF 12,000 SQUARE FEET. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> IT'S A GOOD SOLUTION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. STODDARD, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE >> (ROLL CALL). >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD RESULT. [e. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Replat of Granada Street Cottages a Portion of Block 7 and 8, Revised Plat of Palm Haven Subdivision Plat Book 8, Page 44 of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida Lying in Section 1, Township 35 South, Range 40 generally located at or near the southeast corner of Porpoise Avenue and Granada Street] THANK YOU. >> LONG TIME (LAUGHING) YES. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE RE-PLAT OF GRANADA STREET COTTAGES TO A PORTION OF LOT 7 IN A REVISED PLAT OF PALM HAVEN SUBDIVISION PLAT BOOK 8, PAGE 44 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY LINE IN SECTION 1 TOWNSHIP 35, GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CORPUS AVENUE AND GRANADA STREET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING AND SO HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET WITH THIS ITEM? >> IT HAS BEEN MET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WILL YOU PULL THE COMMISSION AND ASK FOR EXPORT A -- EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. >> COMPLIES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WILL YOU NOW SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES? >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. (SWEARING IN THE WITNESSES .). >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU MAY PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING. THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE PALM HAVEN SUBDIVISION ALSO KNOWN AS THE COTTAGES PLAT. HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF HIR. THE HUTCHISON ISLAND RESIDENTIAL IS THAT DESIGNATION. ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS R-4A. THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY HAS R-4A HOWEVER THERE IS R LETTER TO ZONING. ALL THE ZONINGS ARE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. HERE IS A COPY OF THE PLAT. FIVE LOTS ARE BEING PROPOSED WHICH MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE R-4A DISTRICTS FOR THE TYPES OF UNITS BEING PROPOSED. NORMALLY YOU DO NOT TIE YOU SITUATE PLAT. IT'S A SUBDIVISIONAL LAND. IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE R-4A ZONING DISTRICT HAS DESIGNED USES IN THIS CASE A DUPLEX IS BEING PROPOSED IT HAS TO MEET THE MINIMUM DESIGN [01:55:02] STANDARDS. THESE FIVE LOTS MEET THE STANDARDS FOR DUPLEXES TO BE CONSTRUCTED. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE TODAY. ON JUNE 9 THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 0. SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION OF MYLARS BEING SUBMITTED. THEY ARE IN STAFF OFFICE READY FOR SIGNATURE. THERE ARE THREE POSSIBLE ACTIONS AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. YOU MAY APPROVE WITH NO CHANGES APPROVAL OF THE PLAT SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION OF APPROVAL. YOU MAY APPROVE WITH CHANGES OR YOU MAY DISAPPROVE THE PLAT. STAFF RECOMMENDS SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> IS THAT A PAVED ROAD OUT IN FRONT? >> CURRENTLY IS NOT A PAVED ROAD BUT IT IS FOUND WITHIN OUR ENGINEERING PLAN TO IMPROVE AND THE STAFF IS LOOKING AT TIMING FOR IMPROVING THAT STREET AND WILL BE INCUMBENT UPON THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE STREET. THE CODE REQUIRES THAT ANY NEW DUPLEX OR DEVELOPMENT FRONTING ON TO A RIGHT-OF-WAY MUST HAVE AN APPROVED RIGHT AWAY. BEFORE THE UNITS MAY BE SOLD, AND TRANSFERRED ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT HAS TO HAVE AN IMPROVED ROADWAY. >> THERE IS ONE ROADWAY THAT JUST BAFFLES ME THAT IT'S NEVER BEEN PAVED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I KNOW WHERE THAT IS. >>. >> IT CAN'T BE BUILT UNTIL IT'S IMPROVED. >> RIGHT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AND SIDEWALKS. >> AND SIDEWALKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY. SO WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO. SO WE WILL KNOW -- IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AT ALL? ANYONE? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSION? WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WHO TO IMPROVE -- APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? >> (ROLL CALL). >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS FOR THIS EVENING.. NEXT, WE HAVE ORDINANCE 20 Ã004 AND [f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 20-004 - An ordinance amending the Future Land Use of four parcels at or near 2152 S Jenkins Road from Medium Density Residential (RM) to High Density Residential (RH). SECOND READING] ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF FOUR PARCELS LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2152 S. JENKINS ROAD FROM CITY OF FORT PIERCE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OUR AGE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR PARTS INCOME CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY. WE ARE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANTS FOR BOTH THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM I WILL SAVE YOU TIME. I REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE BOTH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL. PLEASE. (ROLL CALL). >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 20 Ã [g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 20-005 - An ordinance rezoning four (4) properties generally located at or near 2152 S Jenkins Road from Medium Density Residential (R-4) to High Density Residential (R-5). SECOND READING] 005 AND ORDINANCE WITH THE CITY COMMISSION THE CITY FORT PIERCE FLORIDA ZONING FOUR PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2152 S. JENKINS ROAD FROM CITY OF FORT PIERCE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL R 4 TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL R 5 REGARD -- PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? (ROLL CALL). >>. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD LUCK. >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 20 Ã [h. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 20-013 reducing Business Tax Receipt fees by 5% for the next two years. SECOND READING] [02:00:18] 013 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 9 ARTICLE 2 BUSINESS TAX SECTION 9 Ã30, FEES TO PROVIDE FOR A FIVE PERCENT DECREASE IN BUSINESS TAX FEES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT TO IT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE SUBJECT? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? >> (ROLL CALL) >> (ROLL CALL). [i. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 20-014 adopting new Code of Ordinances. FIRST READING] >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 20 Ã 014 AND ORDINANCE ADOPTING AND ENACTING A NEW CODE FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES NOT INCLUDED THEREIN PROVIDING FOR PENALTY FOR A VIOLATION THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE MANNER OF AMENDING SUCH CODE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING WHEN SUCH CODE IN THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> MR. SWEENEY, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> MADAME MAYOR, THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I PROVIDED A MEMO FOR DISTRIBUTION AS BACKUP TO THIS AND I WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT A LITTLE BIT AGAIN. LET ME START BY DEMONSTRATING THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR NEW CODE LOOKS LIKE REDUCE TO WRITING. IT'S A LITTLE OVER 1100 PAGES REORGANIZED. RE-PAGINATED INTO ESSENTIALLY THREE TYPES OF SECTIONS. THE FIRST IS THE CHARTER. THE SECOND IS ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR CITY'S GOVERNMENT. IT'S ARRANGED ALPHABETICALLY. IT'S ENUMERATED AND ESCAPED EVERY OTHER ONES WHO COULD CREATE A NEW SUBSECTION IN BETWEEN SAY ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND ANIMALS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD GO THERE BUT WHATEVER WOULD WOULD FIT THERE AND IT'S RESERVED. AND IT MOVES THROUGH ALL OF THAT. THERE HAS BEEN A SECOND HALF OF THE CODE WHICH STARTS AT AROUND 100 AND THAT'S ALL YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS. AND SO, THAT WHOLE IDEA THERE WAS TO TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS, MOVE THEM TO ONE SECTION OF THE CODE SO THAT WE ARE NOT MIXING AND MINGLING THINGS SAID -- AS WE SEEN EVEN IN THE DISCUSSION WE HAD TONIGHT ABOUT HISTORIC PROJECTS COME YOU GET OVERLAP WHERE IT IS NOT CLEAR. AND IF YOU WILL RECORD THE CHARGE TO THIS COMMISSION TO ME IN MY OFFICE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY CLERK WAS TAKE OUR CODE AND CLEAN IT UP AND LET'S MAKE IT MODERN AND GIVE A NEW FRAMEWORK. I THINK I MAY HAVE DISCUSSED WITH YOU, A NEW SET OF BONES, A SKELETON TO WORK WITH, A STRONG SET OF BONES SO THE MEAT CAN BE PUT ON THE BONES THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND BRING OUR CODE INTO A MODERN TIME. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE POINTS FROM THE MEMO THAT I PROVIDED. FIRST AND FOREMOST IN WORKING WITH SENIOR CODE ATTORNEY WHO HAS BEEN WORKING -- IS OUR CODE PROVIDER. WERE WORKING WITH THE SAME ENTITY THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDING OUR CODE SINCE 1983 WHEN THE LAST TIME IT WAS OVERHAULED. HE WENT THROUGH HE FOUND EVERY REFERENCE THAT WE HAD THAT WAS EITHER SUPERSEDED BY FLORIDA OR FEDERAL LAW AND REMOVE THOSE WE DO NOT FIND OURSELVES IN A PLACE WE HAVE A LAW ON THE PBOOKS THAT IS PROBLEMATIC FROM THE GET GO. THE SECOND IS ANYTHING THAT WAS HISTORICALLY OUTDATED AN EXAMPLE I GAVE WAS THERE WAS A FORMAL ORDINANCE KNOWN AS SOUNDING OF TRAIN WARRANTS AND WAS PROHIBITED DURING CERTAIN HOURS AT SPECIFIC CROSSINGS. THAT JUST -- IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IN THIS DAY AND AGE. AND THERE WERE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THAT CLUTTERED THROUGHOUT THE CODE. FEES, AS YOU HAVE SEEN, EVEN AS THROUGH TONIGHT, FEES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CODE AND ARE GOING TO BE -- AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, NOT DONE BY RESOLUTION. THE IDEA BEHIND IT WAS AS YOU SEE WITHIN ORDINANCE, WE HAVE TO READ IT TWICE, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BUT WE HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS THAT I KNOW COMMISSIONER SESSION TO OF BEEN A PROPONENT OF BEING ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY IN LIGHT OF THIS PANDEMIC AND PROVIDE RELIEF, WHETHER IT'S REDUCING PERMIT FEES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH A RESOLUTION THAT IT COULD BE BROUGHT UP IN SHORT ORDER AND IF PALATABLE TO THIS COMMISSION CAN BE APPROVED. WE [02:05:01] DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO READINGS IN ADVERTISING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THEN FIND OUT ITS STOCK AT THE SAME SETTING FROM YEARS AGO. FINALLY, THE LAST COUPLE OF THINGS TO MENTION OUR PENALTIES HAVE BEEN STANDARDIZED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THAT HELPS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT RECOGNIZE WERE WORKING FROM THE STEAMSAME STANDARD. MY DEFINITIONS UP AND CROSS REFERENCE WERE NOT USING THE DEFINITION THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT THE STATE LEVEL. VACATION RENTALS AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND DWELLING RENTALS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND FINALLY, I WANT TO MENTION -- THIS MAY BE THE MOST SURPRISING THING, A COUPLE SECTIONS OF THE CITY CHARTER HAVE BEEN REVISED. DOES NOT BECAUSE SAID SOMETHING THAT PETE SWEENEY THOUGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA. THE REASON WAS TWOFOLD. THE FIRST IS FLORIDA STATUTE, 166.021 IS A STATUTE THAT CAME ABOUT IN THE 70'S. I WANT YOU VERY QUICKLY READ FROM A SMALL SECTION OF IT THAT SAYS SUBSECTION 4, ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE CHARTER THAT WAS CONSIDERED A LIMITATION ON YOUR POWERS, WAS REMOVED HERE'S WHAT IT SAYS ANY OTHER LIMITATION OF POWER UPON ANY MUNICIPALITY CONTAINED IN ANY MUNICIPAL CHARGER -- CHARTER PRIOR TO JULY 1, 1973 IS HEREBY NULLIFIED AND REPEALED. SO AS A STARTING POINT ANYTHING THAT WAS IN HER CHARTER PRIOR TO -- TALKING ABOUT OUR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES AND EXTRATERRITORIAL BOUNDARIES. IT'S A LIMITED SUBSET. THOSE WERE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE THOSE WERE ILLEGAL BASED ON THE FLORIDA STATUTE AS A LIMITATION ON OUR CHARTER POWERS. THE SECOND ASPECT OF THAT IS THAT WE HAD SEVERAL SECTIONS IN THE CHARTER THAT WERE PUT IN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS. SO JUST AS I TOLD YOU THE FLORIDA STATUTE SITUATED TAKE OUT THINGS THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE, WE HAD THINGS PUT IN THERE THAT SHOULD'VE NEVER BEEN THERE. AN EXAMPLE IS IN A SECTION THAT IN THAT IN 1977 -- I SHARE THIS WITH A COUPLE OF YOU, UNDER SUBSECTION -- SECTION 1 OF THE CHARTER, ARTICLE -- I APOLOGIZE. I HAD IT TAB DID BEFORE I WALKED IN. HERE IT IS. ARTICLE 5 SECTION 43 THAT'S KNOWN AS THE DEPARTMENTAL ORGANIZATION TALKS ABOUT THAT THERE SHALL BE A DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OFFICE OF THE CITY AUDITOR AND OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY AND IT CONTINUES ON. BUT THERE WAS LANGUAGE AT THE END OF THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACKUP, THE PROOF THAT WAS PROVIDED WITH THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IT WAS STRUCK THROUGH, REDLINED INSTRUCTOR. AND THE NOTE FROM MR. MIRIAM SAYS THIS SECTION WAS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE THREE Ã356 SECTION 2 ADOPTED AUGUST 1, 1977 WITHOUT REFERENDUM. NOW THAT -- HOW THAT HAPPENED 43 YEARS AGO ALMOST TO THE DAY, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE ARE CERTAIN THAT THERE WAS NOT A REFERENDUM. THE CROSS REFERENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND -- IT DIDN'T HAPPEN PROPERLY. AND AS I'VE INSTRUCTED YOU ALL SEVERAL TIMES THE ONLY WAY TO AMEND THE CHARTER IS BY REFERENDUM. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THE CHARGE I BELIEVE I WAS FOLLOWING WAS MAKE IT RIGHT. MAKE IT LEGAL. MAKE IT CLEAN EVEN IF IT MEANT TAKING OUT LANGUAGE THAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT WAS OKAY FOR FOUR DECADES. SO WE REINSTITUTED THE ENTIRETY OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS APPROPRIATE WHICH INCLUDES REFERENCES TO MUNICIPAL COURT OF THE CITY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, WHICH IS CLEARLY OUTDATED LANGUAGE. SO TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN GIVING A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WOULD HAVE WENT TO DAYS OVER THOUSAND PAGES BUT ALSONOT TO JUST MAKE IT SO QUICK THAT THERE WASN'T THIS TYPE OF BACKUP. I TRIED TO STRIKE A BALANCE AND I HOPE I DID. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT. I THINK IT REALLY DOES BRING OUR CITY INTO 2020 AND SETS THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE NEXT 30 TO 40 YEARS. IT'S NOT PERFECT. NO PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS EVER PERFECT. I EXPECT THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT YOU WILL SEE AND SAY IT WAS STATED THIS WAY, BUT IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE NUANCED IT MAY BE BROUGHT BACK OR THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY IT WAS REMOVED CAN YOU GIVE ME MORE EXPLANATION ON IT? AND I WILL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. AND IF IT DOES NEED TO BE MODIFIED, THAT I THINK WE WILL DO THAT. [02:10:05] >> YOU CAN DO IT BY ORDINANCE. >> WITHOUT ORDINANCE. I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A CLEANER CHARTER, TOO. BECAUSE NOW YOU WILL KNOW THINGS THAT ARE PROPERLY IN THE CHARTER. VERSUS PEOPLE POINTING AT THINGS WE DID SAYS IT IN THE CHARTER, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE CHARTER AND MAY BE BEEN IN ORDINANCE. IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR LONG PROJECT THE END IF IT GOES THROUGH ON THIS READING ANY SECOND READING ON THE 20TH, WE ARE READY TO GO LIVE I BELIEVE THE NEXT DAY IS THAT RIGHT, LINDA? >> YES. SO WE ARE READY TO GO AND WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ALSO READY TO SUBMIT NEW ORDINANCES AND LANGUAGE TO FLOW RIGHT INTO THIS, INCLUDING FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, LANGUAGE REGARDING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. YOU REMEMBER THAT CAME UP REGARDING THE KING'S LANDING DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF ALL OF THIS, WE DID NOT WANT TO AMEND CHAPTER 222 AND IT'S NOT GOING TO EXIST -- HOPEFULLY ABOUT A WEEK IN ITS PRESENT FORM, TWO WEEKS. SO THAT IS A SUMMARY FOR MY AREA. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >> ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND WHEN YOU FIRST START OFF WITH ARTICLES IN GENERAL, -- CONCERNING OUR CHARTER, WE REVISED IT SINCE I READ IT EARLIER. IT STATES THE PRESENT DISABILITY OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DO HEREBY ABOLISH. NOW IS THAT JUDGMENT WHEN WILL THAT ABOLISH? TONIGHT? >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. SWEENEY IS GOING TO ANSWER THAT. >> HANG ON ONE SECOND. SO THE WAY THAT IT IS DONE IS THAT IS IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO -- THIS HAPPENED IN 1983. HAPPENS EVERY TIME THERE IS A COMPLETE REINCORPORATION BY THIS PROCESS. SO COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME THE VERY FIRST ONE SAYS -- THIS HAPPENED IN 1983, THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE IS ABOLISHED AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SECTION 2 IS THE INHABITANTS OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE. >> OKAY. I WANTED TO GO IMMEDIATELY YOU SAID HAPPENED IN A THREE? WHAT HAPPENED IN 83? >> OF THE LAST TIME THE CODE OF ORDINANCES WAS OVERHAULED AND REDONE IT INCLUDED -- IT WAS REDONE IN 83? THAT WAS 50 YEARS? I CAN COUNT -- MY MATH IS NOT THAT BAD, IS IT? IS THAT 50 YEARS AGO? >> 37. >> OKAY. I HEAR YOU SAYING THE ARTICLES HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED IN 50 YEARS AND ARE YOU TELLING ME IT HAS AN 83. BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THIS IS THE WAY -- THE LANGUAGE HAS TO READ? >> YES" BEFORE WE CONTINUE. >> YES, SIR. >> WAS STRIKING OUT THE OLD CODE AND PUTTING IN THE NEW CODE. >> RIGHT. IN THE SENSE OF BY ADOPTING THIS YOU ARE ADOPTING NOT ONLY THE CHARTER, YOU ARE ADOPTING -- YOUR ADOPTING EVERYTHING. >> WILL WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO MR. SWEENEY IS, THE VAST TWO THINGS ABOUT THE CHARTER AND YOU SAY THIS CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT THE CHARTER, YET WE CAN REVAMP THE WHOLE CHARTER PWITHOUT EVEN ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD THE CITIZENS HAD -- HAVE, STILL DO IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE? YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT ADDRESSING YOU KNOW OR BUTTOCKS TO HAVE TO SEE THE WHITE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM? IS THAT FORT PIERCE UTILITIES? DO HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE (AUDIO LOST) OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE THAT WE CAN ANNEX THE SOUTH OF FORT PIERCE AND NO ANNEXATION IN THE NORTH? HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THESE THINGS WITHOUT SPEAKING FAIRLY AND EQUALLY? YOU KNOW, I JUST -- WHAT I'M SEEING AND WHAT I READ THROUGH IS I JUST FELT THAT THIS IS A RUSH THING AND WHY IS IT THAT HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE ELECTIONS. ELECTIONS IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, AND THAT THREE-TO VOTE, THAT'S NOT MY FAVORITE PERSON, YOU KNOW. AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WON'T CHANGE, THE GOVERNMENT -- THE HEADS OF THE GOVERNMENT IN [02:15:07] FORT PIERCE? SO WHAT IS THE RUSH? IF IT'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAY YOU CAN GET IT DONE IN A YEAR? I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I GET THE HAIR STANDING ON THE BACK OF MY HEAD FOR SOME REASON. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. AND I DID HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL SEE WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. SWEENEY, THIS IS JUST CLEANING UP THE CHARTER. WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING? IS THAT CORRECT. THIS IS JUST A STARTING PLACE SO THAT IF WE FIND THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE, THEN WE WILL DO THEM PROPERLY FROM NOW ON. >> ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR. SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS UPFRONT. THE STATEMENTS IN SECTION 1 AND SECTION 2, AGAIN, THAT IS PROFORMA LEGISLATIVE AND ACTIVE LANGUAGE SUCH THAT YOU COULD NOT HAVE TO CITY CHARTERS AND ORDINANCES EXISTING AT THE SAME TIME. THAT WOULD BE A LEGAL NULLITY. THE SECOND PART IS -- AS I STATED BEFORE, THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE INCORRECTLY IN THINKING THAT THEY WERE MODIFYING THE CHARTER. I BELIEVE WE WENT THROUGH AND IDENTIFIED EVERY SITUATION WHERE IT WAS INCORRECTLY DONE BY THAT. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, -- FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER JUST WAS DISCUSSING THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY. THERE IS A SECTION IN HERE UNDER 179, SECTION 179 THAT SPECIFICALLY IS THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY SUBSECTION OF THE CHARTER THAT WAS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE J-153, ADOPTED JULY 17, 1995 WITHOUT REFERENDUM. >> THAT WHOLE THING WAS APPROVED BY REFERENDUM WITHOUT A REFERENDUM. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. I WANTED TO SAY THAT AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS HOW CAN -- HOW CAN THE ATTORNEY ON ANY -- ON EITHER SIDE -- WHETHER IT'S THE CITY WHETHER IT'S FORT PIERCE UTILITIES, THEY HAD TO AFFIRM THESE ACTIONS AND NO ONE SAID NOTHING. AND HERE WE ARE YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ONE WAS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE GET THIS 30 YEAR -- SO WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT IS THIS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> THE PARTICULAR ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE HAS TO DO WITH THE PURCHASING AUTHORITY BEING UP TO $3500 IN COMPETITIVE BIDDING. BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO FIND -- AND I DO NOT KNOW WHO THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS IN 1995 AND THAT'S. >> I'M TELLING YOU, I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE 30 YEAR -- WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY INPUT ITS CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE OVER THE -- IF YOU -- YOU CAME ACROSS ONE. WHY DID YOU COME ACROSS THE OTHER ONE? I'M TALKING ABOUT IN FAIRNESS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HOLLERING AND SCREAMING THAT WE HAVE HAD (AUDIO LOST) -- THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A REFERENDUM. SO HOW IS THAT? YOU BRING THAT TO US TODAY. YOU WANT US TO AFFIRM AND SEND IT OVER FOR SECOND READING, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE WHITE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM YET. AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE. I MEAN I'M COOL. >> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO DISCUSS THIS? I -- I READ THE -- I THOUGHT IT HAD 863 PAGES IN THE ATTACHMENT. >> HE DOES BUT. >> IT TELLS YOU WHAT IT'S FOR CROSS-REFERENCING. >> I READ IT PRETTY CAREFULLY UP UNTIL ABOUT THE ORDINANCES AND THEN I READ IT SWIFTLY. SO -- AND I FOLLOWED THE RHYTHM OF WHAT -- I GUESS OUR CONSULTANT DID, WHICH WAS LOOK AT STATE [02:20:04] LAW. LOOK AT OUR CHARTER. THE GET WHAT OUR ORIGINAL CHARTER AND I KIND OF COULD SEE THE CLEANING UP AS YOU WENT ALONG BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXPLANATION UNDER EVERY SINGLE THING THAT LINED OUT OR ADDED IN. AND SO, I -- IT'S QUITE A BIG VOLUME TO READ, BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING A STARTING POINT. WERE GOING TO START WITH A CLEAN CHARTER AND THEN WE CAN MAKE ANY KIND OF CHANGES THAT THE FIVE OF US AGREE ON IN THE CITIZENS WANT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. AND AGAIN, I THINK MY OFFICE DID A GREAT JOB AND I WANT TO APPLY DEPARTMENTS FOR THE TIME THEY PUT IN. MS. COX OFFICE. THIS WAS NOT AN OVERNIGHT TASK. >> THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO ASK YOU YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS HAVE REVIEWED THE CHAPTERS THAT PERTAIN TO -- SO THAT THEY KNOW -- RIGHT. >> BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR, EVEN IF IT IS NOT PEACE SWEENEY AS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IF THE LANGUAGE IS NOT LEGAL TO BE IN THE CHARTER, IT'S NOT WHETHER I POINTED OUT OR ANY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, IT'S JUST INCORRECT. AND I FELT IT'S MY OBLIGATION. >> BASED ON THE CHARGE OF THIS COMMISSION GAVE. >> WE TOLD YOU TO DO THIS. >> TO CLEAN UP. >> WE KNEW THERE WERE CONFLICTING THINGS IN THERE. WE KNEW THERE WERE. STATE LAW -- CONFLICTING WITH STATE LAW, OR CASE LANGUAGE, SOMETIMES ONE CHAPTER CONFLICTED WITH SOMETHING IN ANOTHER CHAPTER. >> AND THANK YOU, PETE, FOR THE -- AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE AN IMPACT TO THE SAND WE DID GIVE YOU THAT ORDER AND WE THANK YOU FOR GETTING US TO THIS POINT. BECAUSE THE CHARTER ITSELF DIDN'T CHANGE. HOWEVER, STATE STATUTE, FROM WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT STATE STATUTE OVERRULES US AND WHAT THE ORIGINAL CHARTER SAID. SO NOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RULES AND PROCEDURES WITHIN THE STATE OF SAID YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CHARTER SAYS OR HOW MANY FOLKS VOTED ON IT. THIS IS A NEW RULE. THOUGHTS WHAT I TOOK AWAY. THE CODE OF ORDINANCES IS WHAT WE IMPART ON OURSELVES, THE RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, THAT THEY GIVE US OUR MARCHING ORDERS ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND THERE'S A LOT IN IT. AND IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS ABOUT WHAT YOU REFERENCED EVEN -- THERE ARE A FEW THINGS -- THE COMMISSION WAS TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY DOES HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER AND I THINK SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS WERE IMPARTED IN WHATEVER YEAR IT WAS SET SAID BY ORDINANCE WERE SAY WERE GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY NOW. WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY. THE CHARTER SAYS WE HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT, IT'S UP TO ALL OF US. >> AND THE VOTERS. >> I THINK I BROUGHT ONE OF ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO WAS TALK ABOUT THE WATER MAIN EXTENSIONS. I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE CHARTER SECTION AND THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BUT THE CHARTER OVERRULES THE ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T -- IT'S NOT -- FROM WHAT I READ, IS NOT LEGAL. I'LL ASK THE ATTORNEY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK IT UP WILL TALK ABOUT IT SOME OTHER DAY. BUT THOSE OF THE EXAMPLES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THAT OUT BECAUSE WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP I RESEARCHED IT. >> I THINK I FOUND AN ORDINANCE, BUT IF IT'S PART OF THE CHARTER, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. WE CAN'T DO IT. >> I WANT TO KNOW HOW COULD -- AND THE ONLY THING THAT THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES SAID TO US HE PUT US IN A 30 YEAR GESTAPO THAT WE CAN GET OUT OF -- ESTOPPEL THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT OF. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO REBUT ALL DOUBT THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT? YOU CAN GET OUT OF IT? NOW YOU KNOW, IT'S CONFUSING -- THERE'S A CONFUSING ELEMENT EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WHAT WE KNOW THAT THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING OR WE WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? I'LL LEAVE IT ALONE. >> MEDICAL. >> IF I MAY, I WANT TO HELP MAY BE SATISFIED COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S CONCERN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR ATTORNEY DID -- OUR CONSULTING ATTORNEY DID WAS HE REVIEWED EVERY SINGLE ORDINANCE THAT WAS [02:25:02] PASSED, THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE CHARTER. HE REVIEWED ALL OF THOSE INDEPENDENT OF PETE ANTI- TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE BY ORDINANCE -- IF IT WAS DONE INCORRECTLY, HE BASICALLY SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. WE HAD TO TAKE IT BACK UP. I NEVER REVERTED BACK TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE CHARTER. SO THE CHARTER NEVER -- IT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED FOR A TIME BASED ON THE ORDINANCES, BUT THE FOUNDATION OF THE CHARTER ALWAYS REMAINED IN PLACE IN TACT AND THAT'S WHAT HE TOOK IT BACK TO. BUT HE -- I THINK HE -- I THINK HE REVIEWED PROBABLY 50 SOME ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN REFLECTED IN THE CHARTER JUST TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE WERE ADOPTING TODAY WAS PROPER AND WHAT THE ORIGINAL CHARTER INCLUDED UNLESS IN FACT A REFERENDUM WAS HELD. SO HE -- HE VERIFIED EVERY REFERENDUM, EVERY REFERENCE, EVERYTHING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> I WAS BUT IT'S OKAY. THOSE ARE MY TAKEAWAYS. IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED WHETHER LEGAL OR IN SUPPORT OF THE CHARTER AND THAT'S MY TAKE AWAY IS THAT WE ARE CLEANING THAT UP. WE ARE CLEANING UP BARCODES THE END JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT IS CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDABLE. I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE A BOOK ÃMY GUESS AM ASKING FOR PAPER. I NEVER ASKED FOR PAPER. I JUST THROW PA CURVEBALL THAT YOU (LAUGHING YEAH. THIS IS A GOOD STEP. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AND WHAT I ENJOYED ABOUT THIS -- WHICH IS -- I'M SURPRISED OF ADMITTING THIS IS THAT I GOT TO READ THE CHARTER AGAIN, REFRESH MY MEMORY ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER AND IT'S NOT ABOUT EXERCISE TO DO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE (LAUGHING) IS NOT A BAD EXERCISE. >> YOU GET A BOOK, TOO, TOM. >> YOU GET TO READ, TOO. ALL RIGHT SO IS THERE ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? OR NO, PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE, COME FORWARD? SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> MOVED TO IMPROVE THE ORDINANCE ADOPTING NEW CODE OF ORDINANCES. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALREADY. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL). >> NO. I'M SORRY. MR. JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. [a. Discussion at the request of Commissioner Alexander of the public requirement for face masks in Fort Pierce ] >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. SO NEXT WE ARE INTO THE CITY COMMISSION SECTION AND ITS DISCUSSION AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER OF THE PUBLIC REQUIREMENTS FOR FACEMASKS IN FORT PIERCE. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> YES. I'M GOING TO BE SHORT ON THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY MADE ITS OWN RULINGS AND I DON'T KNOW IF EACH COMMISSIONER GOT A COPY OF IT, BUT YOU KNOW, I STILL DON'T AGREE WITH IT. WE NEED TO TAKE THIS VIRUS SERIOUSLY WE ARE NOT. WE ARE TAKING IT FOR GRANTED THAT IT IS GOING TO BLOW AWAY LIKE A HURRICANE. AND IN YEARS PAST, WE HAVE NOT LOST A LIFE WITH A HURRICANE. AND HERE, ALL OF THE SUDDEN, WE'VE GOT THIS -- THIS VIRUS COMMUNICATING BY AIR, VIRUS, THAT WE DO NOT TAKE SERIOUS ABOUT. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT NO BLAME ON ANYONE, BUT I'M JUST SPEAKING MY OPINION. AND I WAS GOING TO HAVE THEM TO TAKE THIS OFF THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL TO STAND UP OUT OF THE WHOLE CITY AND TELL ME THAT YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. SO IT'LL ONLY TAKE ONE. IT'LL ONLY TAKE ONE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT PERSON COMING FORWARD. AND I STILL SAY THE SAME THING. WE ARE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE NEED TO TAKE THE VIRUS MORE SERIOUS AND WE ARE. WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A SAD SITUATION. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF EACH ONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS GOT A COPY OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE THAT THEY [02:30:06] PASSED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. >> OKAY. I DIDN'T -- I READ MY HARD COPY. OKAY. WILL THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO MAKE MENTION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE STILL HAVE OUR BEACHES AND PARKS OPEN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: STARTING TOMORROW. >> PART OF ME? >> STARTING TOMORROW THEY OPEN BACK UP. THEY BEEN CLOSED FOR THE WEEKEND. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> YES, MA'AM. NOT ONLY DID I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT AS A RESULT OF THE SUNSHINE LAW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WERE SAYING. AND I COULDN'T INFRINGE UPON THAT. BUT, DURING THE COURSE OF ALL OF THIS, I REQUESTED AN EMERGENCY MEETING BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST THAT VITAL, JUST AS SERIOUS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE WATCHING THE SAME NEWS AND UPDATES THAT I AM, IN TERMS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHAT IS GOING ON, WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA BEING DECLARED THE NEW EPICENTER AND CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, FLORIDA, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, TEXAS, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE WAY THAT WE OPENED UP HAS PLACED US IN THE POSITION THAT WE ARE IN NOW. AND THAT IS, RECORD-BREAKING NUMBERS. THIS PAST WEEK AND ONE HALF, WE HAVE BEEN PUT IN A POSITION LIKE NEVER BEFORE, WHEREAS IN THE BEGINNING, BACK IN MARCH, WHEN THIS ALL STARTED, THE LATTER PART OF FEBRUARY, FIRST PART OF MARCH, WE WERE SHUT DOWN AND HERE WE ARE, IN THE MONTH OF JULY, AND WE HAVE QUADRUPLED A NUMBER OF CASES AND WE ARE WIDE OPEN. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE IS NO CURE FOR THIS VIRUS. THERE'S ONLY ONE THING THAT CAN STOP IT -- WELL, SLOW IT DOWN FOR THAT MATTER, AND THAT IS THE SOCIAL DISTANCING OR THE MASK. THIS DISEASE IS TRANSMITTED BY FLUIDS AND IS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE SCIENTISTS THAT MASKS ARE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN SLOW THIS PROCESS DOWN IN LIGHT OF BEING WIDE OPEN. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AS THE DOCTOR POINTED OUT IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION'S MEETING, WHEN HE WAS THERE ABOUT A WEEK AGO, WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING SHUTDOWNS AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRING INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR MASKS IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE WITH MODELS. THE MODELS INDICATE THAT WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE THE CASES ARE HIGH. AND WE HAVE RECORD-BREAKING NUMBERS IN TERMS OF OUR CASES AND WHAT HAPPENS BASED ON THE PAST IS THAT IT LAGS BEHIND TWO WEEKS AFTER THE RECORD-BREAKING CASES, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN NOW. THEN YOU GO TO HIGH HOSPITALIZATIONS. AFTER TWO WEEKS OF THAT, THERE IS A LAG WITH OUR FACILITIES. AND NO MATTER WHAT TALLAHASSEE MAY BE SEEING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR PROJECTIONS ARE, I TEND TO BELIEVE WHAT THE SCIENTIST AND WHAT THE SIGNS SAY, REGARDLESS OF THE POLITICAL ASPECT OF ALL OF THIS. I TAKE THE JOB VERY SERIOUS. AND WHAT WE SAW WITH THE COUNTY LAST WEEK WAS A WASTE OF TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT. WE SAT HERE GOING TO ALL OF THIS ORDEAL ABOUT WEARING MASKS AND THERE WAS A DESPICABLE MSL FORD, [02:35:01] ALONG WITH SO MANY INDIVIDUALS, GUESS, WAS IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT AS ME, BUT WE ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH OVER WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE EMPLOYERS OF RESTAURANTS, OWNERS, TO WEAR MASKS. WHAT GOOD IS THAT IF WE ARE NOT REQUIRING THE CUSTOMERS TO WEAR MASKS. SO, IT WAS PASSED AND AFTER BEING PASSED, WE HAVE? A BIG SMOKE SCREEN BECAUSE IT DID NOT ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. NOW THERE ARE CITIES TO THE SOUTH OF US -- I GUESS THE READING THE SIGNS LIKE I AM. I GUESS THEY'RE SEEING WHAT I'M SAYING, THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED MANDATES FOR WEARING MASKS. IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE AT THE RATE THAT WE ARE GOING NOW IN THE ABSENCE OF PLACING SOMETHING TO SLOW DOWN THE TRANSMISSION, WHICH CAN ONLY TAKE PLACE BY WAY OF A MASK, THAT WE ARE HEADED FOR PROBLEMS. AND I AM NOT SPEAKING OF WHAT REGGIE SESSIONS THANKS, I HAVE TO RELY ON YOU WILL GO BACK AND WATCH THE MEETING. THE EXPERT FOR THIS AREA, THE NUMBER ONE SPECIALIST IN THIS AREA, THE TRICOUNTY AREA, FOR TREATING COVID-19 CASES -- AND IS TREATED MORE THAN ANYBODY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE PROFESSIONAL, HE AGREES. WE'VE GOT TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE OR ELSE WE ARE HEADED FOR SERIOUS TROUBLE. NOW, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, WHEN WE STARTED THIS BACK IN MARCH, THE COUNTY DOES, HEY, DOES THE COUNTY. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US ALL TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY MY CONCERN IS THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. WE'VE GOT TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. AND IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE AT THE PACE THAT WE'RE GOING AND NOT CLOSE THINGS DOWN, THE BOY IS IT SO DIFFICULT FOR US TO PUT AN IMPEDIMENT IN PLACE THAT WILL NOT HURT ANYONE, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD AND LEGALLY, WE CAN DO IT, ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE WE CAN DO IT. THE ME GIVE EVERYBODY A COPY OF THIS. IN THE CLERK, SHE CAN HAVE ONE, TOO. THIS IS A STATUTE THAT WAS -- ADDRESSED AND SPOKE ON WITH REGARDS TO FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION POWER SEMINAR. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC. IN THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS -- I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS MR. SWEENEY OR NOT, BUT THEY HAD A SEMINAR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DO HAVE A COPY OF THIS, MR. SWEENEY? >> YOU HAVE YOU GOT ONE? HAVE YOU SEEN THIS YET? >> I HAVE NOT. I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS DOCUMENT BUT I'M GENERALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE STATUTE, 252. >> ALL RIGHT. AT ANY RATE, THIS INDICATES THAT WE ARE -- WAS STANDING WITH WHAT THE COUNTY DOES AND WHAT THEIR OPERATIONS ARE, THE LAW ALLOWS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS A MUNICIPALITY TO IMPLEMENT AND PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MANDATE MASKS. SO, YOU CAN DO ONE OF TWO THINGS. YOU CAN CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND THE PENALTIES ARE, PERHAPS PUNITIVE IN NATURE -- I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THAT. I DO NOT WANT TO PUT NOBODY IN JAIL FOR THIS. BUT WHAT I DO WANT, UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, IS TO PUT SOME TEETH TO ALL OF THIS TO GUARANTEE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, TO STOP THIS VIRUS WITHIN OUR ABILITY AND [02:40:04] AUTHORITY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. IN THIS STATUTE ALLOWS US TO DO SO. IF WE DO BY WAY OF RESOLUTION, WHICH IS MORE IN LINE OF WHAT I WAS THINKING OF, THEN WE CAN IMPOSE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES AS THE FIRST TIME A WARNING, AND THE SECOND TIME A CIVIL INFRACTION, THAT WOULD BE UP TO US TO DECIDE. SO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT -- I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING -- I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY HE CAN GO BACK AND CHECK OVER AND SEE WHAT I'M SAYING TO BE TRUE AND VERIFY. BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M AFRAID. I'M SERIOUS. I'M SCARED. AND I DO NOT WANT TO SIT HERE AND CONTINUE TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP WHAT I BELIEVE IN AT LEAST WHAT THE PROFESSIONALS HAVE SAID THE END RESULT IS GOING TO BE WHEN YOU LOOK AT HER HOSPITALS RIGHT NOW, THERE ALMOST 75, 78 PERCENT FULL. AND, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE BEING THE NEW EPICENTER, IF THINGS WERE TO RESEMBLE, LET ALONE LOOK LIKE HER SMELL LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN NEW YORK TWO MONTHS AGO, WE ARE GOING TO BE IN SOME SERIOUS TROUBLE. WE DON'T HAVE THE HOSPITAL CAPACITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA LIKE THE STATE OF NEW YORK -- AND YOU SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE. SO, I DO NOT WANT TO SHUT THINGS DOWN. I'M NOT TRYING TO SHUT THINGS DOWN. IF IT WERE MY WAY, PERHAPS WE WOULD, BUT SOMEBODY WITH GREATER AUTHORITY THAN I, THAT SAYS WE ARE NOT GOING TO, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AS THE MUNICIPALITY TO JOIN SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT ARE MANDATING MASKS. LET ME TELL YOU ANOTHER REASON WHY, THIS IS VITAL TO ME. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE PAPER ON MONDAY, 85 PERCENT OF THE CASES OF THIS DISEASE HAPPENED TO BE AFRICAN-AMERICANS, PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY AND DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY THE CORONAVIRUS ON THE TREASURE COAST. IN JUNE, WHILE COVID-19 SURGE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC GAP BETWEEN WHO CONTRACTS THE VIRUS AND BECOMES ILL HAS ONLY GROWN WIDER. HELPING TO EXPLAIN SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY DIVISIONS OVER HOT BUTTON ISSUES SUCH AS MASK WEARING MANDATES. WHILE ONLY ONE THIRD OF THE POPULATION RACIAL IDENTITY IS SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHITE, NON-HISPANIC, 85 PERCENT OF THE CORONAVIRUS CASES IN THE MONTH OF JUNE OR PEOPLE OF COLOR. SO WHILE PEOPLE OF COLOR ONLY CONTRIBUTE TO ABOUT 32 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION, 85 PERCENT OF THE CASES ARE FROM AFRICAN-AMERICANS. AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GLOBAL. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WERE TALKING ABOUT NATIONALLY, BUT THIS IS RIGHT HERE ON THE TREASURE COAST. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE AT LEAST SERIOUS. AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, I DO NOT KNOW -- I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATIONS BUT ALL I CAN SAY DO IS KEEP YOUR HEAD UP. DO ALL YOU POSSIBLY CAN. SOMETIMES IT GETS DISCOURAGING, BUT YOU AS ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE APPEAR WERE ELECTED TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF EVERYBODY, LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIBERTY, LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FREEDOM OF SPEECH BECAUSE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE LIFE, THIS IS THE MOST PROTECTED -- IF YOU DO NOT HAVE LIFE, ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF MEANS NOTHING. SO, [02:45:10] WITH THIS RULE IN PLACE, I WANT TO REITERATE YOU ALL AGAIN, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING OURSELVES WITH STANDING WITH THE STATE IS DOING. WITH THE POPULATION -- I TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WERE HERE BEFORE. ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. THIS POPULATION IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE ARE ABOUT 50-50. WE HAVE AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF MINORITIES. DELRAY, FORT PIERCE, GIFFORD, COCOA BEACH, BROWARD COUNTY THESE CITIES AND GOVERNMENTS ARE 40 PERCENT OR MORE MINORITIES. THESE ARE CITIES ON THE EAST COAST FOR WE ARE FORTUNATE HERE, THAT'S WHY LOVE FORT PIERCE SO MUCH BECAUSE WE ARE VERY DIVERSE BUT, LIFE IS SERIOUS. AND I HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU UNDERSTAND, AS I DO AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. SO, THAT IS MY SPIEL ON THIS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN STEWART, MARTIN, AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, WE HAVE MORE DEATHS THAN ANYONE IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES OF DEATHS. SO, STATE OF FLORIDA, RECORD-BREAKING NUMBERS EACH AND EVERY DAY THIS PAST WEEK. WE WOULD GO UP. STARTED 6000, 7000, 8000, 9000 10,000, 11,000. IT'S GOING ON AND ON. I CANNOT SIT HERE AND NOT DO ANYTHING. SO WHEN I AM SUBMITTING TO YOU IS THAT WE TAKE SOMETHING INTO CONSIDERATION AND SEND SOMETHING BACK TO STAFF WITH STANDING WITH THE COUNTY IS DOING -- THAT WAS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT AND A BIG SMOKESCREEN. WHICH ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING. SO THAT IS MY SPIEL AND I HOPE WE CAN ADDRESS IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WELL, I WATCHED THE COUNTY MEETING. IT WAS FOUR HOURS. AND THERE WAS A GREAT DIVISION OF PEOPLE AND A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF OPINIONS ALL OVER THE MAP. AND WHAT THE COUNTY FINALLY DID WAS KIND OF A COMPROMISE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS. BUT THE COUNTY DID DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL TOMORROW. IT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL TOMORROW. AND IT HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR MASK WEARING, FOR BUSINESSES. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE CUSTOMERS, BUT HE RECOMMENDS CUSTOMERS AND MOST BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO -- THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WEAR MASKS AND ARE GOING TO BE HANDING OUT MASKS AS PEOPLE COME INTO THE BUSINESSES. SO, I JUST FELT LIKE THE COUNTY DID THE BEST JOB IT COULD WITH WHAT HE HAD AT THAT PARTICULAR -- AND THERE ARE CIVIL CITATIONS, NOT CRIMINAL PENALTIES IN THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. SO, THAT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL TOMORROW. SO I THOUGHT THAT WE -- IN MY OPINION, -- AND THAT APPLIES TO ALL OF US. APPLIES TO THE CITY FORT PIERCE AND EVERYBODY. SO I'M THINKING THAT WHILE IT IS IMPERFECT, ALSO REQUIRING EVERYONE TO WEAR A MASK HAS OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE CRIMINAL PENALTIES. PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FEELING LIKE. >> I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS. I WILL START HERE. SO LET'S JUST SAY -- AND I'M NOT FOR THIS KIND OF REGULATION. POLICY WE DO THIS. WHO WERE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO GET THE CIVIL OR CRIMINAL CITATIONS? FIRST RESPONDERS BEING THE ONES THAT ARE APPROACHING A GROUP SUBJECT CELLS TO ADDITIONAL CONTACT BY ISSUING A CITATION. AND THEN, IF THERE'S A PHONE CALL Ã#MAGA AND RETAKE IT. IF THERE IS A [02:50:11] PHONE CALL HER FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE ARE ANSWERING TO A PHONE CALL, WHAT IS HE TAKING AWAY FROM? THE SECURITY AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. AT THAT VERY MOMENT THERE COULD BE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT ARISES. OF COURSE, I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE PROFESSIONALS TO DECIDE THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE CALLS, LET'S SAY THERE WAS AN INSTANCE WHERE I WAS AT A RESTAURANT AND THERE WAS A CALL BECAUSE THEY DID NOT REALIZE I WAS SITTING WITH MY FAMILY NOW SOMEONE CALLED HAVE A GROUP AND THEY CALLED SAID THEY'RE NOT WEARING MASKS AND THEY'RE NOT SEPARATING EITHER. THIS IS MY FAMILY. HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT? NO ONE KNOWS THAT. NOW WE HAVE FIRST RESPONDERS ANSWERING THAT PHONE CALL AND I SAY SORRY. THIS IS WHAT WE DID AT HOME LAST NIGHT WERE GOING TO DO IT HERE TODAY, TOO. WE JUST UTILIZED A RESOURCE FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS NULL AND VOID BECAUSE I'M DOING THAT WITH MY FAMILY. SO THAT'S WHERE IT GETS GREAT FOR ME IS THAT THERE ARE -- THIS IDEA OF THE REGULATION IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE REGULATION. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS GOING TO REDESIGN LOOKING OUTWARD MR. MIMS SENT TO US FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO SOME FOLKS AT LONGWOOD IN THE PROFESSIONALS THERE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A TOTAL HOSPITALIZATIONS IN SAINT LUCY COUNTY OF 199 WHICH IS ONLY NINE PERCENT OF THE CASES THAT'S 2252 CURRENTLY. SO ANY HOSPITALIZATION IS A LOT, BUT THAT'S NOT A LOT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. 53 DEATHS HERE IN SAINT LUCY, THAT'S TWO PERCENT OF ALL THE CASES THAT HAVE BEN REPORTED. WE ARE MATCHING HAND WITH WHAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS LOOKING UP HER NUMBERS. I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. IT'S JUST A MATTER FOR ME OF WHERE -- I LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE TODAY. AND INCLUDING OURSELVES I HAVE MY MASK WITH ME, EVERYONE THAT IS HERE HAS A VERY GOOD SENSE OF PERSONAL OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR NEIGHBOR. AND SO, I RESPECT THAT. THANK YOU ALL. AND HERE IS MINE, DONATING THE COMMISSION WE HAVE OURS. AND SO AS WE GET EDUCATED, AS WE WATCH THE NUMBERS CHANGE, AS PEOPLE SEE WAS HAPPENING, I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A MOVEMENT INSIDE WITHIN EACH INDIVIDUAL THAT IS SAYING I JUST NEED TO DO THIS. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WATCHING THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT OR REGULATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WATCHED PEOPLE REASON THAT RESISTED AND THEY'VE CHANGED. >> I CARRY 10 OF THESE AND ADD ONE IT WAS MAYBE A GOOD DAY AND AMANDA PULLED IT OUT OF HIS POCKET, SO I CAN BE ONE OF THOSE. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WE SAW THE NUMBERS DIPPED DOWN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN -- EVERYONE RELAXED. THE OTHER THING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN SAINT LUCY COUNTY IS ALWAYS LOOKING AT NUMBERS. I LIKE DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS FOR SURE. WE ARE HAVING AN UPTICK, BUT I DID NOT SEE THE SAME STEEP CLIMB IN HOSPITALIZATIONS THAT I'M SINGING CASES. WHEN YOU START COMPARING DATA YOU HAVE A CURVE THAT IS STEEP AND THEN YOU HAVE A CURVE THAT AGAIN, I'M NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY, THERE IS AN INCREASE, BUT WHAT IS DRIVING THAT INCREASE? I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE SCIENTISTS KNOW THAT. AND THE OTHER NUMBERS THAT ARE HERE -- I DON'T KNOW. YOU START -- I'M JUST GONNA BREAK IT DOWN. COMMISSIONER YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ETHNIC BREAKDOWN OF LOOKING AT SAINT LUCY COUNTY OF THE 2252, THERE'S 369 CASES AFRICAN-AMERICAN OR 776 CASES OF WHITE. THERE'S 300 -- NO I'M SORRY. THERE'S 117 CASES OF HISPANIC PLUS ANOTHER 66 AND OTHER CALENDARS ABOUT HUNDRED 7573 CASES OF HISPANIC. SO THAT'S A -- I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN PER THE POPULATION, BUT IT'S A GOOD COMPARATIVE NUMBER TO LOOK AT. WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE DATA IT'S LIKE WHAT WE DO NEXT? AND THUS A NATIONWIDE CONVERSATION, TRULY IS. IT'S A NATIONAL CONVERSATION OF WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW YOU REGULATE THAT? HOW DO YOU ENFORCE IT AND HOW DO YOU REGULATE IT? I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE ANSWERS. I LIKE THE IDEA BUT [02:55:03] I'M THINKING IF YOU HAVE A PERSONAL FEELING OF LET'S DO IT, THEN LET'S DO IT. THEREFORE REGULATING IT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FOLKS THAT HAVE DEREGULATED BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. I HAVEN'T GOT MY TICKET BOOK YET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ENFORCEMENT IS. >> THAT'S A CHALLENGE. AND IT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR THE COUNTY. COMMISSIONER PERRONE AND. >> THANK YOU. WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. EVERYBODY LOOKS TO US I HAD PEOPLE MISTREAT SAY WE CAN DO. YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS A LAW RULE OR REGULATION. YOU DON'T DO IT WITHOUT TAKING A LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE, HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT, HOW IT IS GOING TO TAKE FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO GET 911 CALLS ALL DAY LONG TALKING ABOUT A GROUP OF YOUNG FOLKS WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND NOT WEARING A MASK. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND -- I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION RIGHT NOW. I THINK THERE'S A RIGHT DECISION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW THE COUNTY STRUGGLED WITH IT. THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING BUT THEY DID NOT WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE. I THINK IT'S IRONIC, THOUGH, THAT ONE OF THE BIG THEMES THAT WE SCREAM ABOUT ALL THE TIME IS HOME RULE AND OUR GOVERNOR GAVE US A CHANCE FOR HOME RULE AND I WISH THAT HE WOULD JUST MAKE A STATEWIDE EAT IT SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS REGIONAL, REGIONAL IS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR ALL OF US. WE ARE ALL AFFECTED BY THAT COMMISSIONER SESSION SAID THAT IS THE FACT THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS IN MARTIN COUNTY OR BROWARD COUNTY OR DADE COUNTY IT ALL AFFECTS FOUR PAIRS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A COMMUNITY IS LIKE ITS OWN LITTLE FISHBOWL. BUT FORT PIERCE IS AN UNUSUAL FISHBOWL BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO FORT PIERCE IN A GIVEN DAY ARE PROBABLY MORE FOLKS FROM OUTSIDE FORT PIERCE THAN THEY ARE JUST THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE ARE AFFECTED BY EVERYTHING THAT COMES AROUND. I'M NOT -- I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A TRIED-AND-TRUE RULE OR REGULATION ORDINANCE, RESOLUTION, EVERYONE A COLLET THAT IS ABLE TO DO THAT. I CAN'T GET THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF IT, THE IMPACT THAT YOU MENTIONED COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, THE SAME WAY HOW DO YOU DISCERN BETWEEN FAMILIES AND FOLKS JUST OUT HAVING A GOOD TIME? YOU MAKE THESE MANDATES, WHICH ARE ABSOLUTE -- THEY HAVE LITTLE OR NO EXCEPTIONS, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE ALL THESE OTHER EXCEPTIONS AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE OBSERVING IN THIS GROUP OF FOLKS WITHOUT THE FACIAL MASKS THAT'S PART OF THE ORDINANCE, DO NOT HAVE THAT EXCEPTION? SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS THING. AND I GOT TO THE END OF IT ALL I KNOW COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER IS THE ONE THAT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SUPPORTING INFORMATION. WE ARE READING IT IN GETTING THE NEWS EVERY DAY AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CHANGED. BUT IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- WHATEVER WE DO TODAY IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE CHANGED TOMORROW ANYWAY. >> I GOT TO THE END OF THE DAY THINKING THAT A RATHER SPEND THE MONEY AND EFFORT IN GREATER EDUCATION, HANDING OUT FREE MASKS, TAKING IT THE COOL THING TO DO IS TO WEAR THE MASK ESPECIALLY WITH THE KIDS. AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BE COOL RIGHT NOW. I'M SO FAR AWAY FROM BEING A KID. I HAVE SOME. I HAVE CHILDREN AND THE BIG THING OF IT IS THAT IF IT IS A COOL THING TO DO IT WILL BE DONE AND THEY WILL POLICE THEMSELVES. I LIKE THE IDEA OF FOLKS POLICING THEMSELVES. I LEFT MY OFFICE AND WALKING DOWN THE STAIRS AND PEGGY IS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE, SHE LOOKED AT ME. I WAS ALL BY MYSELF I HAVE THE BRIEFCASE AND SHE COMES UP AND SAYS WHERE'S YOUR MOUSE? I VIOLATION. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS POLICING YOURSELF MAKES YOU CONSCIOUS OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND YOU IS HEALTHY. SO I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT NOW I'M NOT TRIGGER-HAPPY ON MAKING A MANDATE, RULE OR RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER, BUT I AM THINKING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY HAVE TO DO EVENTUALLY. AND I'D RATHER SUPPORT WITH THE COUNTY HAS DONE AS FAR AS A REGIONAL APPROACH TO THE SO FAR. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING [03:00:10] WHEN YOU SAY POLICING YOURSELVES ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO POLICE HERSELF BUT THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE PREDICAMENT THAT WE ARE IN NOW. BECAUSE WE HAVE ALLOWED THE PUBLIC TO POLICE THEMSELVES AND WHERE WE WERE AT 800 A MONTH, IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, WE ARE AT 10 11,000 A MONTH. SO POLICING OURSELVES DOES NOT WORK. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT GUESS WHAT? WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO TRUST FORT PIERCE'S FINEST POLICE DEPARTMENT. A POLICE OFFICER HAS A WIDE DISCRETION. EVERY POLICE OFFICER DOES NOT GIVE AN INDIVIDUAL A TICKET WHEN HE SEES SOMEONE WITHOUT A SEATBELT. HE USES HIS DISCRETION TO MAKE SUCH DETERMINATION AND THE LAW ALLOWS HIM TO DO SO. SO ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STRICTLY ENFORCE IT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. AS WITH ANY STATUTE, ORDINANCE OR LEGISLATION. BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE WE HAVE PUT INTO THE INDIVIDUAL SPINES -- EVEN LIKE MYSELF. I CAN ASSURE YOU, WHEN I GOT OUT THE OTHER DAY TO GO TO PUBLIX I FORGOT MY MOUSE, AND ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT HEY WHERE'S YOUR MASK, HAD I REMEMBERED THAT I COULD'VE GOTTEN A TICKET, ME PERSONALLY, WOULD NOT HAVE FORGOTTEN, IS JUST SOMETHING ABOUT REINFORCEMENT WITH THE STATUE WHERE YOU'RE NOT REALLY EDUCATING YOURSELVES, OR YOU HAVE A MANDATE IN PLACE, YOU'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN IN ORDER TO AVOID SOME TYPE OF PENALTY. AND AGAIN WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT JAIL. WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING DOWN IN MIAMI. THEY'RE DOING UP IN SEMINOLE COUNTY. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. WE ARE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL. THERE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES AT LEAST TWO THAT HAVE MANDATED THIS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. >> I JUST WANTED TO NOTE -- COMMISSIONER, IF YOU KNOW YOU WERE TO LOOK AT A SET OF LAWS YOU KNOW, YOU SAID -- IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE SET OF LUNGS WITH CIGARETTE SMOKE HE WOULD SAY MY GOD, THAT'S AN UGLY, GROSS. BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT -- THUS WILL PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN ME. TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE PRESENTING TO YOU, THE SCIENTISTS, SHOWING YOU THESE LUNGS HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE VIRUS. SO THAT IS AN UGLY SITE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN A YOUNGER CHILD. IT MAY BE THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SHOW NOT THE CHILDREN, BUT THE YOUNG KIDS, THEY NEED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THESE ARE GROWN, WANNABE GROWN CHILDREN, THOSE THAT WALK AROUND AND I DON'T CARE ATTITUDE,THEY NEED TO SEE SOMETHING AS SUCH. AND AGAIN, WHAT IS IT TAKE? WHATEVR IT TAKES. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW NOT ONE OF YOU -- YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE. IT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE. THAT'S IT FOR ME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT. >> SAY THIS TOO. THIS IS NOT THE FLU. IF YOU GET OVER THIS, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU HAVE INTERNAL ORGANS THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED. I'M NOT TALKING -- THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTORS ARE SAYING. AND IF YOU -- JUST LISTEN ÃMAKE YOU LISTEN -- I KNOW IT'S A LONG MEETING LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, AT THE COUNTY, BUT JUST GO IN AND TAKE OUT -- THIS IS WHAT REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION AND I SAT THERE AND LISTENED TO THAT YOUNG MAN TALK. AND WHEN THE DOCTORS SPOKE, IT WAS LIKE EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH I WAS SHAKING AND TREMBLING BECAUSE WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS JUST DEVASTATING, WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN IF NOTHING TAKES PLACE. AND HE'S NOT COMING AT IT FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE TREATING PHYSICIAN IN THIS AREA, THE COUNTY INVITED HIM INTO GIVE A PRESENTATION. WHEN [03:05:02] HE GOT THERE, THEY DIDN'T EXPECT FOR HIM TO SAY WHAT HE DID, BUT WHAT HE DID WAS HE GAVE THE TRUTH. AND HE SPOKE THE TRUTH. AND HE CAME BEHIND ME AND HE AND I HAD A FEW WORDS THERE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD HIM ABOUT THINGS AND HE DISAGREE WITH ME BUT WILL WE LEFT THERE WE WERE OF ONE ACCORD JUST LIKE I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU ALL, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THE DR. EVEN INDICATED THAT HE WOULD COME IN AND GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY AS WELL, LIKE HE DID WITH THE COUNTY, JUST LET THEM KNOW. HE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME HERE. AND MR. JOHNSON, RIGHT NOW, 89 PERCENT OF THE ICU UNITS IN THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY ARE FULL RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS HIGH. AND TRUE ENOUGH, IT'S A COMBINATION OF COVID AS WELL AS PEOPLE WITH OTHER CONDITIONS, BUT 89 PERCENT. THAT ONLY MEANS WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER 11 PERCENT OF WILL HAVE ISSUES. SO AGAIN, JUST GO BACK AND REVISIT THE ISSUE. LET'S GET THE PROFESSIONALS IN HERE TO TALK TO US EMPLOYEES, STOOD BY THE PHONE BECAUSE OF ONE OF US, LIKE MYSELF -- I'M NOT VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE NOW, IF I FEEL LIKE IT'S AN EMERGENCY, GOING TO CONTACT ME CITY MANAGER AND I EXPECT FOR HIM TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER. BUT PLEASE, LET'S JUST NOT SIT HERE AND NOT DO ANYTHING. WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, TILL THE PROBLEM OCCURS WHERE IT'S AT HAND. I WANT TO BE PROACTIVE, NOT REACTIVE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SO, WHAT OF THE THINGS -- THE COUNTY ORDINANCE GOES INTO EFFECT TOMORROW. IT'S AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. AND SO, I THINK I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND EVERYBODY READ IT AND BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE CIVIL CITATIONS, AND ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SET AT THE COUNTY WAS THAT WHAT THEY WANT -- THEY DO NOT WANT TO GIVE OUT CITATIONS. THEY WANT COMPLAINTS. THAT'S WE ALL WANT. WE WANT COMPLIANCE. AND SO, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY LIVING UNDER THE COUNTY ORDINANCE AND WATCH IT EVERYDAY LIKE COMMISSIONER PERRONE SAID. WATCH IT. >> MAYOR, WHEN THIS THING FIRST STARTED OUT I WAS WATCHING TV AND I WAS GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM DETROIT IN NEW YORK AND PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. BUT NOW, MAYOR, AND STARTED TO FIND OUT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE DIED PEOPLE ARE VERY SICK. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT I READ ABOUT OR SEE ON TV NOW. IT'S RIGHT HERE. IN FRONT OF US. AND IS HAPPENING NOW. IT MAY BE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND ACCORDING TO THE MAP -- MATHEMATICS, YOU DON'T SEE IT. BECAUSE AGAIN, 85 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE ARE OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN DESCENT. I'VE SEEN IT. I'M GETTING PHONE CALLS. IS HAPPENING. PEOPLE ARE UP THERE ALONG WITH THAT I KNOW PORT ST. LUCIE THAT I KNOW ARE OF THE SAME COLOR AS MYSELF. THIS IS SERIOUS. SO TAKE A JUDGMENT PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY. WE ARE TREADING ON VERY THIN WATER HERE. AND IS NOT GETTING ANY BETTER. AND IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER -- AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING TEMPORARY. I COULD SEE FOR TALK ABOUT SOMETHING FOR A LONG PERIOD TIME. AS A MATTER FACT THE STATUE SAYS YOU CAN ONLY DO IT FOR SEVEN DAYS AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK AND RENEW IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. >> EXACTLY. >>. >> IT HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET. HE'S GOING TO START TOMORROW. >> BUT WHAT'S GOING TO START IS REQUIRING RESTAURANT OWNERS, EMPLOYERS, TO WEAR MASKS. >> AND BUSINESS OWNERS. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, A BUSINESS OWNER. >> AND ENCOURAGE THE CUSTOMERS AND MANY OF THEM ARE HANDING OUT MASKS. >> I AGREE. I GAVE OUT 14,000 ABOUT A MONTH AGO. I'M DOING ALL I CAN TO FURTHER THAT. BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE. PLEASE, BECAUSE THAT -- LET'S FACE IT, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE COUNTY, BUT THAT IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET BECAUSE IF [03:10:03] EVERYBODY ELSE IS ROAMING AROUND, THE CUSTOMER COMES IN, WITHOUT A MASK, WHAT GOOD IS THAT? WHEN THE EMPLOYEE OF OF A BUSINESS OWNER LEAVES THE BUSINESS WITHOUT A MASK WHAT GOOD IS THAT? IT MEANS NOTHING. SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO STAY ON TOP OF THIS. I HOPE YOU ALL DUE TO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ABSOLUTELY. >> PLEASE DO. BECAUSE PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AT STAKE. >> THAT IS KILLING MY COMMUNITY. AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE, NOT WITH THE LIFE OF ME AND NOT DO ANYTHING. I'M GOING TO DO ALL THAT I POSSIBLY CAN TO STOP IT. AND WHEN I'M DEAD AND GONE THAT IS BEYOND MY CONTROL. BUT AS LONG AS I HAVE LIFE IN MY BREATH I WILL NOT, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES JEOPARDIZE THE LIFE OF ANY INDIVIDUAL, BLACK, WHITE OR WHATEVER IF IT'S SOMETHING I CAN DO. AND IT'S SOMETHING SMALL. THIS IS A SLOW THIS THING DOWN. STOP THE TRANSMISSION. I'M NOT SAYING SHUT DOWN. BUT JUST PUT AN IMPEDIMENT EMPLOYEES TO STOP THIS NASTY, SLOW THIS NASTY DISEASE DOWN THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? [b. Update on the demolition of 2607 Avenue D - Continued from February 18, 2020 as Resolution No. 20-R12] >>MAYOR HUDSON: MS. COX? >> NEXT ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON THE DEMOLITION OF 2607 AVENUE D WHICH WAS CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY 18, 2020 IS RESOLUTION 20 - R 12. >> GOOD EVENING. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BRIEF UPDATE. I'VE HAD SEVERAL TIMES I'VE COMMUNICATED WITH MS. NORMA WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER. SHE CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION. SHE PRESENTED PLANS OF WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO AND ASKED FOR TIME TO DO IT. HER TIME TO DO THAT ALSO COINCIDED WITH COVID-19. SHE HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THE PRJECT UP AND RUNNING. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO HER CONTRACTOR AND I SPOKE WITH HER TODAY AND SHE ACTUALLY HAS HER ENGINEER DRAWINGS ARE DONE. THINGS ARE PROGRESSING, JUST NOT AS FAST AS WE BUT NOTHING IS MOVING AT THE WAY THINGS ONCE UPON A TIME. SHE IS IN COMMUNICATION WITH US AND THAT'S WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW . >>MAYOR HUDSON: DOING THE BEST SHE CAN. >> YES. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF. >> YES. DO WE NEED TO EXTEND TIME FOR HER. >> I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO A CONTINUATION TO A DATE CERTAIN AGAIN. >> CAN I SAY 90 DAYS? >>MAYOR HUDSON: SAY THAT AGAIN? >> CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THEM 90 DAYS QUICK CERTAINLY. HIS THREE SECOND? >> WAS IT 90 DAYS. >> 90 DAYS. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL) >> (ROLL CALL). >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION [c. Resolution 20-R28 determining that the structure located at 604 N 25th Street is unsafe and should be condemned and demolished. A hearing to determine this matter is scheduled before the City Commission on August 3, 2020.] 20 ÃR 28 RESOLUTION DETERMINING THAT A CERTAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 604'S NORTH 26 STREET IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA IS UNSAFE AND A NEW SUBMIT CONSTITUTES A MENACE TO THE BUSINESS, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT ALL PARTIES OF INTEREST MUST SHOW CAUSE WHY THE STRUCTURE SHOULD NOT BE CONDEMNED AND DEMOLISHED. IN NOTIFYING ALL PARTIES OF POTENTIAL ACTION BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR FAILURE TO ACT AND THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 3, 2020 AT 6:30 PM IN THE CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 100 N. US HIGHWAY FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO ALL PARTIES. >> WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IT JUST GETS THE PROCESS STARTED. >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> THERE IS A MOTION SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? >> (ROLL CALL). >> OKAY. NEXT, WE HAVE [d. Resolution 20-R30 reclassifying George Johansen and Anthony Westbury from alternate members to regular members of the Historic Preservation Board ] RESOLUTION 20 ÃR 30 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF ALTERNATE MEMBERS AS REGULAR MEMBERS ON THE PRESERVATION BOARD AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS STATES WE HAVE TWO ALTERNATES THAT NEED TO MOVE UP TO REGULAR SEATS TO FILL VACANCIES IN THIS IS JUST THE FORMALITY OF THAT PROCESS. >> IS OUR MOTION? >> I'M OVER THE APPROVAL. [03:15:04] >> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? >> (ROLL CALL) >> (ROLL CALL). >> MANNA MAYOR? >> YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE -- DO WE HAVE APPLICANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO BE ALTERNATES? >>MAYOR HUDSON: DO WE HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR ALTERNATES THIS COX. >> I HAVE NOT PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE FOR ALTERNATES. AS A GENERAL RULE, WE HAVE NOT HAD ALTERNATES ON BOARDS ANY LONGER. THIS WAS A REMAINING HOLDOUT. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ADVERTISE FOR ALTERNATES. >> I KNOW I HEARD THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE LAST ONES BUT HE DID NOT SAY THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY. >> CORRECT. >> IS THERE A REASON FOR THE DILEMMA? >> THIS IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. NO REASON WE CAN ADVERTISE. WE WILL DO THAT COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. >> SO NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTION 20- R 31 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF [e. Resolution 20-R31 Establishing BTR fees and other fees collected by City Clerk by resolution.] FORT PIERCE FLORIDA ESTABLISHING THE BUSINESS TAX FEES FOR BUSINESSES PROFESSIONS OR OCCUPATIONS ESTABLISHING FEES COLLECTED BY THE CITY CLERK AND PROVIDING FOR -- THIS IS SIMPLY WE JUST ADOPTED A RESOLUTION THAT ESTABLISH THE FEES BY ORDINANCE BUT WITH THE NEW CODE HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DEMORALIZES IT. >> A RESOLUTION FORM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL) . >> (ROLL CALL). [f. Resolution 20-R32 Establishing Polling Places for the Primary Election to be held on August 18, 2020.] >> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 20 Ã R 32 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION OF THE PRESENT PLAN FOR THE PRIMARY ELECTION TO BE HELD IN AUGUST FOR THE PRIMARY ELECTION TO BE HELD IN AUGUST 18, 2020 AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THESE ARE THE POLLING PLACES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED BY MS. WALKER, ESTABLISHING WHERE EVERYONE GOES TO VOTE BUT SINCE WE USE THEIR PROCESS WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NOTICE. >> THE CITY IS OLDER THAN THE COUNTY WE HAVE THIS ARRANGEMENT. IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. >> (ROLL CALL). >> NEXT WE HAVE APPLICATIONS TO [g. Submittal of applications to serve on the Civil Service Appeals Board.] SERVE ON THE CIVIL SERVICE APPEALS BOARD. WE HAVE A REGULAR MEMBER AND AN ALTERNATE MEMBER WHOSE TERMS ARE EXPIRING. THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR A VOTE AND I THINK THERE ARE FIVE APPLICATIONS FOR THE TWO POSITIONS. >> MANNA MAYOR? >> ARE WE JUST GOING TO PICK AND CHOOSE INTO FOR THE BOARD AS NO ALTERNATE AT THIS TIME OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? >> WELL THIS IS A CIVIL SERVICE APPEALS BOARD AND I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS TWO APPOINTEES. >> YOU HAVE TWO REGULAR APPOINTEES. >> THEY ARE ALREADY APPOINTED? RIGHT? >> WE HAVE 21 REGULAR MEMBER AND ONE ALTERNATE MEMBER OR WHOSE TERMS ARE EXPIRING. HE WILL BE REAPPOINTING A REGULAR MEMBER AND AN ALTERNATE MEMBER. >> OKAY. >> IS UNIQUE BOARD. >> CONFUSING. ALL RIGHT. >> AND WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM [14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.] THE PUBLIC. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. MS. COX WILL GIVE YOU A THREE SECOND WARNING AND DO YOU WANT THEM TO SIGN IN? IS THAT CORRECT? AND SIGNING IN YOUR ADDRESS AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD WHEN YOU ARE READY TO BEGIN? >> THANK YOU. PAUL FORT PIERCE RESIDENT ST. LUCIE COUNTY RESIDENT FOR 32 YEARS. WORKING AS A REALTOR YEAR FOR 20 YEARS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INTERESTING ITEMS HERE TONIGHT. ACTUALLY, CAME HERE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING. JUNE 15 YOU HAD A MEETING THAT WAS QUITE DISTURBING LISTENING TO [03:20:09] THEM. GOT A PRESENTATION BY THE COMMISSIONER, REGGIE SESSIONS. THAT WAS -- I'M SHORT UPSET QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AND IT SHOOK UP SOME OF YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO PREVIOUSLY UNSUPPORTED REGGIE AND I GAVE THEM A CHECK FOR HIS REELECTION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SIR, COULD YOU ADDRESS -- SPEAK ABOUT THE WHOLE COMMISSION NOT JUST WHEN COMMISSIONER. >> THAT'S FINE WITH ME SIR. >> ANYWAY, THIS YEAR GOES TO COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. HE CAN GIVE IT TO HIS FAVORITE CHARITY. >> NEW YORK. THAT. >> WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. YOU CAN TAKE IT TO HIM. >> ALL MAIL IT. >> ALL RIGHT ANYWAY. >> NOT CITY HALL THOUGH. >> OKAY. I HAVE A CHECK FOR HIM. AT THAT MEETING I DID HEAR SOME COMMENTS FROM HIM THAT JIMMY APPEARED AS EXPERIENCE AND WISDOM AND THAT'S WHY FEEL THIS WAY. BY PTHE WAY, I WEAR MY MASK WHEN I GO TO HOME DEPOT WHICH I GO FIVE TIMES A DAY OR 10 TIMES A WEEK OR WHATEVER. AND ACTUALLY, I DO NOT TOUCH NO DOORKNOB OR ANYTHING. THIS IS WHAT I WOULD BE USING, OKAY? AND SO, THEREFORE THE ONE ITEM OR THE MOUSE, I WOULD SAY THAT REALLY, DON'T DILLYDALLY AROUND. YOU ARE CHITCHATTING HERE. MAKE A DECISION. GO FOR IT. MAKE SOME DECISION. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY YES WHERE THE MASS, HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY WERE NOT GOING TO DO IT. LOOK INTO IT WHAT? ANOTHER THREE MONTHS. THAT WAS A GOOD POINT BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS. ANYWAY, THAT DAY, WHAT I HEARD JUDGMENT GOES A PRESENTATION I'M NOT SURE IF THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE BY THE INDIVIDUAL OR AS A COUNCILPERSON, BUT OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS MADE FROM THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM. IT WAS AGGRESSIVE. I BELIEVE IT WAS A PUBLICITY STUNT FOR REELECTION PURPOSES. THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED I THINK IT WAS A BIG ERROR THAT YOU HAVE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO HELP YOU MAKE A DECISION. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK WITH YOUR ATTORNEY ARE GOING TO NEED THAT. YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED. YOU HAVE FULL AUTHORITY AND TRUST OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEM. AND NOT BURDEN THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO COMMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE IN DECISION. DO NOT AS THE PUBLIC YOU WANT TO WEAR A MASK OR NOT? MAKE A DECISION. YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. GO FOR IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE 50 PEOPLE FOR MASKS AND 50 PEOPLE AGAINST THE MASKS. AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT DAY, TOO, TO LET THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN ON THE DECISION. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> PART OF ME. >> I'M OWHERE NEAR. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. I'M SORRY. >> CAN HAVE A FEW SECONDS. >> NO, SIR. PLEASE, SIR, STEP AWAY FROM THE PODIUM HONESTLY I HAVE TO TREAT EVERYBODY. >> I HAVE TO TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME WAY SIR. >> YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE YOU DID NOT MAINTAIN THAT THEY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SIR IT'S THREE MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS) THANK YOU SIR. >> ON JUNE 15, TWO. >> .THANK YOU SIR. >> WHO IS NEXT? >> SIGNING FOR ME, SIR IN YOUR TIME WILL NOT START UNTIL YOU START SPEAKING. >> ARRAY QUICK START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? >>. >> MY NAME IS XAVIER BROWN JUNIOR FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT IN A TREASURE OF NEW LEADERSHIP SOCIETY. I HAVE SOME THINGS I PREPARED TODAY. OUR PARADIGM SPEAKING ON THE DECRIMINALIZATION OF 20 GRAMS OR LESS. I WANT TO PUT THIS OUT THERE I MET -- PRESIDENT CARTER HAD A SPEECH IN WHICH HE PLANNED TO ROLLBACK FEDERAL REGULATION HE STATED WE CAN AND SHOULD DISCOURAGE USE OF MARIJUANA BUT THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT DEFINING THE SMOKER AS A CRIMINAL. THE PENALTY SHOULD NOT BE MORE HARMFUL THAN THE DRUG ITSELF. FAST FORWARD TO 2020 MARIJUANA IS NOT AN UNDERCURRENT. OUR PAST THREE PRESIDENTS ONLY ADMITTED TO BEING SMOKERS IN THEIR FORMATIVE YEARS. THINK ABOUT THIS FORT PIERCE, WE HAVE THREE DISPENSARIES WE HAVE CBD PRODUCTS BEING SOLD OVER-THE-COUNTER ALL AVERSE. WE HAVE OVER 20 CONVENIENCE STORE THEY CARRY OVER 20 DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF CIGARS AS WELL OVER 16,000 CIGARS IN NORTH FORT PIERCE ALONE. NOW MIND YOU WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE [03:25:01] DO NOT HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM OUR PROBLEM IS OUR PERCEPTION OF OUR FELLOW CITIZEN. WE HAVE DEMONIZED ONE OF THE MOST PEACEFUL ASK. IMAGINE BEING DETAINED AND HANDCUFFED FOR A BOTTLE OF WINE. HOW RIDICULOUS WOULD THAT SEEM? FOR SOMETHING OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T DEEM A PROBLEM I FEEL WE ARE OVER POLICING OURSELVES AGAIN, MY NAME IS XAVIER BROWN JUNIOR. I UNDERSTAND TRAUMA. AS A BLACK MAN WITH BIPOLAR I KNOW TRAUMA AND IS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY I'M SADDENED THAT WE ARE STILL QUESTION WHY PEOPLE ARE SMOKING WEED. THAT IS ALL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. >> (APPLAUSE). >> FREDERICK JACKSON, 902 HICKORY STREET FORT PIERCE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER, FORT PIERCE CITY COMMISSION. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO JUST EXPRESS MY CONCERNS AND ALSO, PERHAPS WITH YOUR HEARING MY CONCERNS, MAYBE GIVE WAY TO AGREEMENT OR PUSH FOR OR EITHER SOME INPUT THAT WOULD HELP ME TO MAYBE DETOUR TO LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS I CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONCERN. IN VIEW, GLOBALLY AND HERE IN THE U.S., WITH THE VARIOUS CONCERNS THAT WE ARE HAVING AN IN PARTICULAR, HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, THERE ARE RIDES THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL HAS RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND MY CONCERN IS EVERY INDIVIDUAL HAVING THE RIGHT IN THIS LINE CONCERNING PROTECTION -- PROTECTING THEMSELVES A LOVED ONE OR FRIEND OR NEIGHBOR, A PASSERBY, A FELLOW EMPLOYER ON THE JOB, AND IN THE USE OF THIS RIGHT FOR PROTECTION, OUR CONSTITUTION DOES ALLOW FOR WEAPONS, WEAPONS, VARIOUS TYPES OF WEAPONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CITIZENS OR THOSE WHO DESIRE WEAPONS, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO USE THEIR WEAPONS OR FEEL COMFORTABLE OR FEEL A NEED OR JUST WITH THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS DATA. I DESIRE FOR THOSE THAT DESIRE THAT YOU RECEIVE WITH THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE TRAINING FOR THEM TO RECEIVE TRAINING SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THEIR WEAPONS SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE USE OF THEIR WEAPONS AND BEING ABLE TO PRACTICE TO HIT THEIR TARGET. TO HIT THEIR TARGET. AND WE KNOW THERE'S MANY EXAMPLES WHY PERSON MAY HAVE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES OR PASSERBY ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT EXAMPLES WHETHER BE A PERSON THAT IS ASSAULTING SOMEONE A FAMILY MAN -- FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND WHETHER BE A CRIMINAL WHO SPENT ON DOING HIS OWN THING, WHETHER IT BE WHAT I CALL POLICE BRUTALITY AND OFFICER THAT GOES BAD BECOMING A BAD GUY WITH THE GUN OR A BAD GIRL WITH A GUN, BUT REALLY FOR WHATEVER REASONS, TO USE A WEAPON. SO, WHAT AM I SAYING TODAY FOR THOSE WHO DESIRE TO UTILIZE WEAPONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE HAVE THE TRAINING BECOME FAMILIAR AND BECOME COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND FOR THIS I SPEAK OF. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS OF. >> THAT IS GOOD THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT. >> HELLO. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE FORT PIERCE CRIMINALIZATION ORDINANCE. I'M [03:30:06] THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW LEADERSHIP SOCIETY AND FROM PORT ST. LUCIE FLORIDA. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THE MISSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE ITS CITIZENS. THEY SHOULD NOT BE SELECTIVE ON WHO RECEIVES THE BENEFITS. THE OVERALL CRIME RATE AM NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE IS 46 PERCENT HIGHER IN FORT PIERCE THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. THAT NUMBER COULD BE DECREASED BY THE AMOUNT OF ARRESTS FOR MARIJUANA POSSESSIONS. THAT ALONE ABOVE ALL STATISTICS IS ABOUT TO DO CHANGES. ARE WE TRYING TO INCARCERATE CITIZENS? OR ARE WE TRYING TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE OR WE CAN FIND WHAT'S AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITIES. GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE COUNTIES HAVE ADVANCED FAR PAST OUR OLD IDEOLOGIES OF MARIJUANA. THERE ARE 10 STATES THAT ALLOW -- AND 14 OTHERS THAT DECRIMINALIZE IT. IT CANNOT BE A DETRIMENT IF HALF OF THE COUNTRY CONSIDERS IT TO BE INSIGNIFICANT. MANY OTHERS HAVE PROMOTED THE USE OF CANNABIS MEDICINALLY AND RECREATIONALLY. WE FEEL THAT IT TARGETS A SPECIFIC GROUP. I LEARNED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE SOUTHERN UNITED STATES THAT HAS THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE NOT DETERMINED OR DECRIMINALIZE THE USAGE OF MARIJUANA MOREOVER ESTATE WITH A HIGHER POPULATION SUCH AS CALIFORNIA ILLINOIS AND OHIO ALLOW THE CONSUMPTION IT'S KEEPING MARIJUANA ILLEGAL A DIFFERENCE? IS THIS ORDINANCE MANDATED FOR THE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE STATISTICS POINT IN THAT DIRECTION AS SOMEONE WHO WAS RAISED IN THIS COMMUNITY I HAD A CLOSE EXPERIENCE A BRIGHT YOUNG MAN WHO I'M GOOD FRIENDS WITH WAS FALSELY CHARGED WITH MARIJUANA POSSESSION BY BEING A PASSENGER WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE -- BECAUSE OF THE APPEARANCE OF MARIJUANA PARAPHERNALIA. HE COULDN'T GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE OF THAT. IT MADE HIS FUTURE MORE DIFFICULT. IF CANDY WHICH IS CONSUMED WHICH CAN LEAD TO CONSUMERS TO HAVE DIABETES THAT I THINK IT'S TIME TO ARGUE ABOUT THE PRODUCTS AND GOODS. WE CAN START THIS IN THE MUNICIPALITIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH (APPLAUSE). >> HENRY, PRESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE TIME TO RIGHT THE WRONGS WITH THE FAILED WAR ON DRUGS JUSTICE PROSECUTION AND STIGMA FOR MARIJUANA USERS. SOME MAY SEE THE NEED OF DECRIMINALIZATION IS A NONIMPORTANT TASK FLORIDA MADE IT THEIR DUTY TO SPEAK OF THE VOICES WHO HAVE SUFFERED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PRIORITIZATION WE, AS A COUNTY NOT ONLY PAST MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN 2018 WILL OVER 70 PERCENT OF THE VOTE, WE HAVE ALLOWED DISPENSARIES IN OUR COMMUNITIES. IT FEELS TO SKIP AHEAD OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF BREAKING STIGMAS INJUSTICES. BY MAKING SURE THAT CITY REGULATION RIGHTS OR WRONGS. I'VE SEEN MANY RIGHTS CHANGE BECAUSE OF MARIJUANA AND IT IS SAD THAT I'VE SEEN SOME PEOPLE CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEWS TO STOP THEM FROM PASSING IN ORDINANCE. TODAY WE ASKED FOR TWO THINGS. TO TAKE PLACE BY THE COMMISSIONS FOR MAYOR TO RIGHT THE WRONGS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO LIKE HER MAYOR TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE IT ALLOWED TO THE JULY 20 AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE BY THE COMMISSION. WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE OUR ELECTED LEADERS STAND IN THE COMMENTS FOR COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF FORT PIERCE. WE HOPE THAT YOU ARE FOR OUR CAUSE IN FIXING JUSTICE ONE STEP AT THE TIME. AS THE CITY LEAD THE WAY. TOGETHER WE CAN BE THE CHANGE WE WANT TO SEE. I WANT TO SAY THAT ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO STAYED TO THE END OF THIS MEETING, JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW SERIOUS WE ARE. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH REGGIE DEAL WITH IN THE PAST ESPECIALLY LACK LEADERSHIP [03:35:08] BUT WERE HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE WE ARE NOT COMPLAINING BUT WE HAVE SOLUTIONS EACH ONE OF YOU RECEIVED A POWERPOINT THE POWERPOINT WAS PUT TOGETHER. YOU CAN SEE A PROMINENT LETTER WAS PUT TOGETHER BY HER SECRETARY IS A SERIES ORDINANCE THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO APPROVE LOOK AT AND GIVE US PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T DEMAND YOU DO IT BECAUSE WERE NOT BELLIGERENT. WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T VOTE TODAY. THAT'S WHAT WE ASK YOU TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND SAY WHETHER THERE FOR OR AGAINST IT TWO WEEKS FOR THE STAFF TO RUN IT THROUGH. THIS IS A SIMPLE EASY INJUSTICE THAT CAN BE FIXED AND I BELIEVE MANY OF YOU WOULD SEE AS NEEDED AND MAYBE DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR COMMUNITY BUT MANY POOR WHITE BLACK AND HISPANIC COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN IMPACTED AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE THAT MAYBE IS NOT YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCE BUT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE ELSE CAN BE CHANGED SO WE HOPE THAT WE ONLY HEAR NOT ONLY WHAT YOU FEEL, BUT IS PUT ON THE LEGISLATURE HEARING AGENDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR CITY COMMISSIONERS AND ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. >> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> YES. SEAN MCDERMOTT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN ARRESTS WHEN DEALING WITH MARIJUANA POSSESSION. MARIJUANA HAS A STATEMENT THAT IS BASED OFF OF FEAR AND IGNORANCE. WHITE AND BLACK PEOPLE USE MARIJUANA AT THE SAME RATE BUT BLACK MEN AND WOMEN ARE ARRESTED 3.73 MORE TIMES AND HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS THAN THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. THE STATE OF OUR NATION IS AT A SEVERE CROSSROADS WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK-AND-WHITE ISSUES. WE NEED TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA IT HAS TORN FAMILIES APART. IT HAS MADE FIRST-TIME OFFENDERS PREJUDICE CRIMINALS AND IT MAY ÃMAKE IT MADE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO TRUST THE COPS THAT WERE SWORN TO PROTECT THEM. I'M BEGGING YOU ALL TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE DECRIMINALIZATION OF MARIJUANA AND TO STOP THE UNNECESSARY ARRESTS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH LESS THAN 20 GRAMS. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> IS NEXT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HAROLD OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DECRIMINALIZATION ORDINANCE. WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO REFLECT ON OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED AND ENSLAVED TO A SYSTEM THAT IS BUILT OFF OF PROFIT. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SHINE A LIGHT ON A YOUNG LADY NAMED AMY WILLIAMS. SHE WAS PULLED OVER BECAUSE OF A TRAFFIC VIOLATION SO THAT GAVE HIM A REASON TO SEARCH HER CAR. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW SHE FELT BECAUSE I CAN. MY NERVES WERE SO BAD WATCHING THAT ENTIRE VIDEO. NINE MINUTES AND THREE SECONDS UNTIL THE SEARCH HER ANXIETY SET IN WHEN SHE REALIZED SHE WAS GOING TO JAIL. OVER A MARIJUANA PAN. OVER A MARIJUANA PAN. SHE WASN'T SMOKING OR DRIVING AND YOU CAN HEARING THE VIDEO AS CALM AS SHE WAS, SHE STARTED TO GET NERVOUS. SHE SAID PLEASE DON'T TAKE ME TO JAIL. I JUST GOT MY LICENSE. IT'S ALREADY HARD ENOUGH, BUT I JUST GOT MY LICENSE. A HURDLE SHE HAD TO STEP OVER NOW SHE'S ABOUT TO GO BACK. IT SHOWS THAT NO MATTER HOW HONEST AND HOW CALM YOU INTERACT WITH THE OFFICER, HE DOESN'T SEE THE SMALL STUFF IS SOMETHING LIKE BECAUSE IT LEADS TO BIGGER THINGS. IMAGINE THAT. JUST IMAGINE THAT. THE ONLY SMOKE MARIJUANA. IT'S A GATEWAY DRUG TO WHAT? NOW BOTH [03:40:14] PARTIES ARE CONFUSED. THE OFFICER BECAUSE THERE'S NO POTHER OPTION AND AMY WILLIAMS, WHO IS NOW BEING ARRESTED FOR LESS THAN 20 GRAMS. SOME PEOPLE SMOKE TO EASE THEIR PROBLEM, BUT NOW THEY JUST GOT IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW. NOW WHAT'S LEFT? AMY WILLIAMS ENDURED 14 MINUTES AND 34 SECONDS OF HUMILIATION OVER A MARIJUANA PIN. SO I ASKED, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DRINKING WINE AND RELAXING AND SMOKING MARIJUANA AND RELAXING? IT'S THE PEOPLE. OUR REPRESENTATIVES CANNOT CONTINUE TO BE HYPOCRITICAL TO THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY, WE, THE PEOPLE, NO LONGER ARE BLINDED BY THE WAR ON DRUG PROPAGANDA. A WAR WE'VE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN. THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST THE BEGINNING PROCESS TO RECTIFY DECADES WORTH OF DAMAGE COSTS FOR GROUP OF PEOPLE, BUT IT DOES NOT STOP HERE. AND WE WILL CONTINUE ON BECAUSE I RAN OUT OF TIME. (APPLAUSE). >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> YES, SIR. >> MY NAME IS CHARLES GANNON. I FIRST AND FOREMOST I WANT TO GIVE MY FIRM ABSOLUTE SUPPORT BEHIND HESE GENTLEMEN WHO ARE HERE FOR DECRIMINALIZATION ORDINANCE. I FIRMLY SUPPORT IT BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID IS COMPLETELY 100 PERCENT TRUE AND IS RIDICULOUS THAT WE IN 2020 ARE STILL FIGHTING THIS FIGHT. BUT, WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS A TWO-PART THING. ONE, THE DECRIMINALIZATION INTO, COVID. AFTER WATCHING THE DISCUSSION I WANT TO SAY, YOU ALL ARE MAKING THIS WAY TOO HARD THAN WHAT IT IS. COVID HAS BEEN DEALT WITH IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. AND WHAT WE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE SCARED TO DO REALLY TO MAKE THE CURVE FLATTENED IS TO STOP EVERYTHING. VIETNAM, HE WOULD ÃMAKE CUBAN OTHERS A FLATTENED CURVE DOWN TO NOTHING ALMOST. WE CAN SEE THAT SHUTTING DOWN ALL THE BUSINESSES, HAVING PEOPLE QUARANTINED IN THEIR HOME, HAVING THE PRIMARY IMPORTANT AREAS OF INDUSTRY SUCH AS THE POLICE, OPEN TO HELP THE PUBLIC, SUPPLYING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THEIR HOUSES WITH FOOD, MILK AND SO ON, IN ORDER TO KEEP SURVIVING AND ALSO SHUTTING DOWN RENT COLLECTIONS IN ORDER TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES IF YOU'RE IN THE STREET THE VIRUS IS NOT GOING TO STOP, IT WILL FOLLOW WITH YOU THAT HAS SHOWN TO FLATTENED THE CURVE DOWN. ALL THIS BEING ABLE TO WALK AROUND AND KEEP EVERYTHING OPEN ISN'T DOING ANYTHING SO MUCH WORSE. THIS IS AN EASY FIX. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SUCH A LACK OF AUTOMATION IN SUCH A HIGH DOMINANCE OF RETAIL THAT SHINE DOWN ON ALL THESE INDUSTRY WOULD CAUSE ECONOMIC FAILURE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OVERSUPPLY OF LATER. WE FOCUS OHIO LABOR THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING KEEPING OUR ECONOMY ALIVE IS WHY 22 MILLION THAT LOST THEIR JOBS ALMOST SENT OUR ECONOMY INTO NOTHING THAT'S MY COMMENT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU SIR. >> APPLAUSEMAC. >> ANYONE ELSE. >> BETTER MAYOR, I'M CURTIS JOHNSON JUNIOR. I WANTED TO RISE TO JUDGMENT DUE TO THINGS. I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, MY TERMS HAVE EXPIRED IN SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE WIDE COUNSEL SO YOU [03:45:07] HAVE TO APPOINT PEOPLE THERE, I'VE HAD A DELIGHTFUL TIME THE PAST TWO YEARS SERVING THE COUNCIL AND WORKING THROUGH THAT AND THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL ALLOW FOR ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT THEY APPLIED FOR THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY ALSO TO RECOGNIZE MY TIME ON THE CRA IS EXPIRING. I THINK IT EXPIRES ON THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH. THAT'S BEEN A DELIGHTFUL PROCESS, A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE INTERVAL WORKING PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND PARTICULARLY THE NORTHWEST SECTION AND HOPEFULLY MY WORK THERE HAS BEEN ONE THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO AND PUT SOME THINGS ON THE AGENDA AS WE MOVE FORWARD. LASTLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU MUST CONSIDER AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU MUST DO. THERE ARE A LOT OF ITEMS OUT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I WANT TO REMIND US ALL YES, COVID IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT BEING HEARD. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE LACK OF RESPONSE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE CENSUS. WE ARE NOT FOCUSING ON THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT UNLESS WE GET ACCOUNTED FOR IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE RESOURCES EVER TO ADDRESS THAT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CENSUS TRACT THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT. THE COUNTY IS REPORTING 61 PERCENT BY 62 PERCENT. THE TRACKS OF 34590947 ARE REPORTING UNDER 40 PERCENT ABOUT 36 TO 30 PERCENT REPORTING THUS IT WAS REPORTED AT THAT SAME LEVEL SO PEOPLE WONDER WHY WE DON'T HAVE ARE THINGS THE COMMUNITY WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE STATEMENT THAT'S OUT THERE WE HAVE PEOPLE HIDING WE HAVE PEOPLE HIDING IT'S HOW WE GET THE PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITY. HEADSTART, FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE YOUNG KIDS FREE LUNCH PROGRAMS ARE ROAD RESURFACING. THE HOSPITAL THAT WE MAY NEED TO ADDRESS RISING PANDEMIC. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S WHEN THE PANDEMIC BREAKS THAT WERE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES I ENCOURAGE ALL OF US WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THIS WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE STIGMA THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS YOU'RE HERE. HE CAN'T HIDE. COME OUT AND BRING THE RESOURCES TO FORT PIERCE. WE STAND TO LOSE $9.6 MILLION THAT'S BASICALLY 60 PERCENT. THAT'S $100 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? >> HEY THERE. >> I CAME OUT TO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS ABIGAIL. I'M FROM AMBER FOIL AVENUE HERE IN BAY CREEK. I CAME OUT TO SUPPORT ALL THESE FINE PEOPLE AND I'M NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. I COVERED THE BASES WHICH WAS WONDERFUL. I THINK YOU ALL. THE THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY WHILE I'M UP HERE IS ABOUT COVID BECAUSE I HEARD A LOT OF YOU SPEAKING ON IT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. TWO THINGS I HEARD THAT CAUGHT ME. I HAVE A HUSBAND AT HOME WHO IS A GREAT RISK. I KNOW WHEN YOU SAY IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY ONE OF THE THINGS -- AND I I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE COMPLY WHEN THEIR OUTSIDE LIKE WALKING OR MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS DOING THINGS. IT'S WHEN THEY GO INTO STORES. WHEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE IMMUNE DEFICIENCIES IN STAFF, LIKE BMI HAS BEEN ARE FORCED TO GO SHOPPING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE THEN. WE DON'T HAVE TO WALK WITH THESE PEOPLE WE DO HAVE TO GO SHOPPING. AND WE NEED TO BE PROTECTED WHEN WE GO IN THE STORES. IT'S NOT A CHOICE AND IF YOU GET SICK, HE CANNOT [03:50:01] RECOVER. HIS MUSCLES CANNOT MAKE IS HARD PUMP. HIS LOAN -- HIS LUNGS CANNOT KEEP BREATHING. AND SO, WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE WILL MAKE THE FOOD SERVICE PEOPLE WHERE IT OR THE EMPLOYEES WHERE IT WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE PEOPLE COMING IN THE STORES WHERE THAT'S A PROBLEM. YOU'RE MAKING PEOPLE LIKE MY HUSBAND SECOND CLASS NOT IMPORTANT. LIKE IT'S PART OF MY LANGUAGE, IT'S LIKE AT HIM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MA'AM? >> I KNOW. I SAID PART OF MY LANGUAGE. AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY YOU WORRY MORE ABOUT THE POLICE AND HAVING TO -- I'VE HAD THE POLICE COME ÃBUT WE HAD A LOT OF ROBBERIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD THE POLICE COME IN MY HOUSE WITH NO MASKS. THEY DON'T HAVE THEM. IF THE POLICE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEMSELVES AND PROTECTING THEM, WHY ARE THEY WEARING MASKS IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES? THIS IS -- THIS IS AN ISSUE. AND I THINK IS AN ISSUE THAT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUSLY ABOUT FAMILIES THAT HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GO INTO THESE AND YES I WEAR A MASK. MY HUSBAND WEARS A MASK. WE HAVE TO BUY EXPENSIVE MASKS THAT PROTECT US MORE BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT WEARING THEM AT ALL. AND THAT'S NOT -- IT'S -- IT'S ALREADY VERY EXPENSIVE BEING DISABLED. AND HE JUST GOT LAID OFF LAST WEEK BECAUSE OF COVID. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU MA'AM . >> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. >> APPLAUSEMAC. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE. WHILE WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW, BUT I -- NO, WE ARE NOT. (LAUGHING). >> MY NAME IS GEORGE COLLINS. I WAS LISTENING TO WHAT WAS BEING SAID AND YOU ARE SAYING WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT WEAR MASKS FOR COVID-19. WE ALWAYS SEEM TO BE LOOKING ITSELF YOU GOT AWARE MASK BECAUSE YOU WANT TO WEAR A MASK BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE TOLD TO DO ANYTHING THAT MEANS YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBOR. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WHICH ARE CAUSING OTHER PEOPLE HARM YOU MAY BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT BUT NOW YOU'RE TAKING INTO PEOPLE I CAN'T STAND IT LIKE THIS LADY -- THIS LADY'S HUSBAND. AS FAR AS PEOPLE GOING INTO HOUSE WITHOUT A MASK THAT'S WRONG. THE LAWS THE LAW DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY WEARING SHORT PANTS, LONG PANTS SUITS OR UNIFORMS YOU SHOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. YOU SHOULD DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE. IF YOU'RE IN THE PROFESSION, THEN YOU SHOULD BE CARRYING MORE AND YOU SHOULD KNOW MORE BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING TRAINED AND YOU SHOULD KNOW MORE THAN THE COMMON CITIZEN. YOU SHOULD CARE ABOUT THEM. THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CENSUS. MR. JOHNSON ADDED SPOT ON. YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE PUSHING THE CENSUS LIKE OTHER PEOPLE. PORT ST. LUCIE PUSHES IT. FORT PIERCE DON'T SEEM TO CARE. YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE CENSUS INFORMATION OUT THERE. YOU DO NOT SEEM TO BE DOING THE PART MAY BE DON'T AFFECT YOU BECAUSE WHEN I SEE THE MONEY COMES IN IS BEING PUT IN CERTAIN AREAS AND DENIED IN OTHER AREAS. AND YOU'RE NOT HELPING IT ANY AT ALL. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE ELECTED FOR. YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. YOU JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO LIKE MY SCHOOL MOTTO SAID. IT'S RIGHT TO DO RIGHT. DO THE RIGHT THING APPLAUSEMAC. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY. WE WILL TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE LISTEN TO EVERYTHING ELSE LEADING UP TO APPRECIATE YOUR STAYING AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON. [15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER] >> COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER? >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS HE HERE? (LAUGHING) MR. MIMS? [03:55:07] >> I SEE WE HAVE A NEW LEADERSHIP GROUP IN FORT PIERCE. AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IN QUITE A EFFORTS STARTING WITH EMAIL AND COMING HERE. MOVING ON I HAVE THREE REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. THE CITY MANAGE REPORT ON THE CORONAVIRUS UNFORTUNATE PANDEMIC REPORT. I KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE. IF YOU ALWAYS WILL WISH TO DISCUSS THIS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE THREE REPORTS I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. >> WOMAN: I READ THEM. I GOT YOUR COVID 19 REPORT THIS AFTERNOON. IT WAS AS USUAL EXCELLENT. >> WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. >> MAN: I WOULD LIKE FOR MISTER MEMS FOR THE ORDER AND THE PUBLIC FOR THOSE THAT ARE HOME WON'T GET THERE WITHOUT INFORMATION. I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO GIVE A BRIEF SYNOPSIS. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS REPORT BECAUSE THAT IS THE SUBJECT MATTER AT HAND. LIVING ON WHAT WE'VE DONE AS YOU KNOW BEGINNING BACK IN LATE APRIL, WE ESTABLISH OUR RECOVERY GRANT PROGRAM. AS OF RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IN THE MORTGAGE AND LEASE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WE HAVE 34 APPLICATIONS APPROVED BASICALLY PRODUCING $60,682.80 OF RENT AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE TO FOR OUR RESIDENTS. WE HAVE BUSINESS RELIEF GRANTS THAT HAVE 34 APPLICATIONS APPROVED TOTALING $102,000 GOING TO THOSE BUSINESSES. >> TESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR TESTING AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY AT A PREVIOUS MEETING I BELIEVE IT WAS JUNE 15. WE DID SEE A DEFINITE CHANGE IN UPTICK IN POSITIVITY RATES. WE DID IT IN A TWO TESTING EVENTS IN EARLY MAY AND EARLY JUNE WHICH IS CAPTURED IN THIS REPORT. PART OF OUR FOOD DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM. WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE FOOD AND SECURITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE CHEMIST OUR SESSIONS AND MAYOR ALSO THE COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN WE SAW HIM WORKING A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE F THE MOST FULFILLING AND REWARDING THINGS THAT WE DO. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ELDERLY, YOUNG, WHITE, BLACK GREEN OR YELLOW. EVERYBODY COMES AND EVERYBODY NEEDS A LITTLE HELP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE FINDING THE PRODUCTS AND FOOD SOURCES THAT IS IN NEED IS A CHALLENGE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS AND THEIR INCOME. I TELL YOU WHAT. THE LAST ONE WE DID WAS AT THE GYMNASIUM. WE SERVICED OVER 600 FAMILIES AT THAT EVENT. NOT ONLY DID WE HAND OUT FOOD, WE HANDED OUT MASKS AS WELL. IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE POISED TO CONTINUE USING. >> WE ALSO HANDED OUT SINCE THIS INFORMATION. >> WE DO THAT AT EVERY ONE OF OUR EVENTS. >> AND EVERY EVENT WE HAND OUT CENSUS COOKS SAVE A STRONG COMMITMENT TO HAVE A POSITIVE AND MORE IMPROVED RESPONSE FOR OUR ES. AS FAR AS CITY HALL. >> COMMISSIONER THERE ARE TWO SESSIONS THAT YOU TYPE. EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. ONE THING YOU SAID THAT YOU NO LONGER HAVE IS THAT THE LAST ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE TESTING? >> AT THIS TIME SIR WITH THE CARE ACT FUNDING WE HAVE RECEIVED HAVE EXPENDED THOSE RESOURCES. WE DO INTEND TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HE LUCIA COUNTY TO BRING POP UP TESTING OR OTHER TESTING LOCATIONS TO NORTHERN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. HESITANTLY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS BEEN HELPING WITH SOUTHERN ST. LUCIE COUNTY WHICH IS THE POPULATION CENTER OF THE COUNTY. THEY HAVE HAD TESTING IN THAT AREA BUT WE INTEND TO WORK WITH THEM IN NORTHERN ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO RECEIVE THE SAME TYPE [04:00:03] OF FREE TESTING SERVICES. AS FAR AS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS CONCERNED WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CARES ACT FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL TESTING. >> IS THAT EVERYTHING WE CARE ABOUT AND IT'S WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS. GIVE US OR LEND US. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON OUR OWN. >> OF COURSE WE CAN'T. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SMART MISTER MAYOR. WE'RE TELLING OTHER PEOPLE TO DO FOR THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE. I'M THE LAST ONE TO TELL YOU TO WAIT ON WHAT THE NEXT ROUND IS GOING TO BE. WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE ABOUT THINGS THAT WE DO AND AGAIN YOU SEE THEM PASSING ON INFORMATION FOR THE CENSUS. AT LEAST WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO ALLOW ONE WE CAN REPORT ON. THAT'S MY CONVERSATION. >> I WILL SAY THIS MUCH. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN TERMS OF THE TESTING THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.HERE'S NOTHING GOING ON IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. FOR WHATEVER REASON I DON'T KNOW. THEY ARE TESTING IN PORT ST. LUCIE. THERE ARE TESTING LIKE YOU SAID IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY AND CITY FOR THAT MATTER. NORTH FORT PIERCE AND NORTH COUNTY. NOTHING IS TAKEN PLACE AND THAT OF IT ITSELF IS AN INJUSTICE. I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY. WE HAVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. LET THEM KNOW THERE ARE ENOUGH CAPITAL THE POPULATION IS IN PORT ST. LUCIE BUT NEVERTHELESS STILL, WE ARE HERE AND WE NEED TO BE TESTED. THE NUMBERS ARE HIGH IN THE NORTHERN PART WHEN YOU LOOK AT PER CAPITAL THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGE AND DENSITY OF INDIVIDUALS. FOR WHATEVER REASONS THE COUNTY HAS NOT OFFERED TO TEST ANYBODY IN THE NORTH WEST SECTION. IN THE NORTH PORTION OF THE COUNTY. CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME LIKE THE MISSION ALEXANDER SAID. WE NEED TO FIND SOME MONEY TO DO SOME TESTING HERE. BY THE SAME TOKEN I CAN'T UNDERSTAND FOR THE LIFE OF ME WHY THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND I'M PROTESTING. I'LL BE AT THEIR MEETING NEXT TIME. I FOUND OUT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY DOCTOR RAND PAUL AND I AGREED ON THAT. SO YOU ARE DOING A LOT OF TESTING IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. HOW COME YOU ARE DOING ANY TESTING HERE. IT REMAINS TO BE ANSWERED BUT THEY NEED TO START TESTING ON THIS END AS WELL. >> ABSOLUTE. I 100% AGREE. WE HAVE A REQUEST IN THEIR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER CONTACT. IT IS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HOPEFULLY TRACK THEM TO THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY TO DO SOME TESTING. JUST LIKE THEY'VE DONE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. WE ARE WAITING THAT RESPONSE AND IT IS OUR INTENT TO GET OUR CITIZENS IN FORT PIERCE THE SAME TYPE OF AND IF IT IS EVERY OTHER CITIZEN. >> JUST ADD TO WHAT I WAS >>PROVIDED TO OUR COMMUNITY IS ROUGHLY HUNDRED THOUSAND MEALS TO OUR YIELDED O HUNDRED THOUSAND MEALS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I'M PROUD ABOUT THAT. I THINK OUR STAFF IS KICKING SOME SERIOUS BUT RIGHT NOW. WE ARE HUSTLING. I MADE ONE OF MY STAFF TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE ARE WORKING EVERY WEEKEND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU'RE DOING THE JOB OF THE CITY AND WE ARE ALSO DOING THE JOB OF DEALING WITH COVID. EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF IS DOING DOUBLE DUTY RIGHT NOW. [04:05:11] >> ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE CARRYING FORWARD. OUR CITY IS STILL MOVING. IT'S LIKE A FINELY TUNED ENGINE BUT WE ARE VOLUNTEERING ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON. I HAVE TO COMMEND EVERY DEPARTMENT, EVERY STAFF MEMBER. I THINK THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE IS SMALL, BUT WE PRODUCE HECKUVA LOT. AND I'M PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. AS YOU KNOW, OUR CITY FACILITY PUBLIC ACCESS IS CHANGING. IT CHANGES EVERY DAY. OUR STATUS CHANGES EVERY DAY. WE HAVE CONCENTRATED ONE POINT OF ACCESS AND THAT ACCESS IS CONTROLLED BY TEMPERATURE READINGS. WE ARE FOLLOWING CDC GUIDANCE WITH A 100.4 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT READING FOR BEING CLASSIFIED AS A FEVER. IF YOU HAVE THE FEVER, WE DO NOT ALLOW YOU IN THE BUILDING. I HAD TO CHECK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND HE SAID OKAY. HE SAID WE COULD DO THAT. WHEN A COUPLE GUYS STANDING OUT THERE AND WE WERE HOPING COMMISSIONER VARONA WOULD LEAD -- READ A LITTLE HIGHER SUITE ENOUGH TO BE IN YOUR. WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY. >> I WAS OPEN. BUT NO. WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY AND WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT NOT ONLY OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT EVERY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY. AS FAR AS BUILDING ACCESS INTERIOR TO OUR FACILITIES ONLY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. WE ARE CLOSE. THERE IS NO WALK-INS. IT'S BY APPOINTMENT ONLY NOW WITH THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT OF HAVING A TEMPERATURE READING THAT IS UNDER A CERTAIN PEER HYDRATING. OUR COMMUNICATIONS IS CHANGING. SEE, CLICK, FIX. WE'VE BEEN ADVERTISING THAT. EVERYBODY DOES NOT USE IT AS MUCH AS WE WANT BUT WE HAD AN UPTICK AND NOW WE HAVE 89 SEE, CLICK, FIX REQUESTS FROM APRIL 1 TO JULY 1. IN THE AVERAGE ACKNOWLEDGMENT TIME IS ABOUT TWO AND HALF DAYS AND OUR STAFF IS ATTENTIVE TO THAT. WE ARE RUNNING REPORTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND WE ARE ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC'S NEEDS AND CONCERNS. >> EMPLOYEE STATUS. THIS IS WHAT TROUBLES ME. TODAY 13 EMPLOYEES HAVE EXHIBITED REPORTED SYMPTOMS SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE CORONAVIRUS. WE HAVE HAD FIVE POSITIVE TEST RESULTS FOR COVID-19 AND IN RESPONSE TO THAT WE MADE IMMEDIATE CONTACT WITH THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY WORK DIRECTLY WITH THROUGH CONTACT TRACING NOTIFICATION. WE HAVE INTENSIFIED SANITIZATION AND TESTING HAS BEEN COMPLETED IN RESPONSE TO THE SITUATION. WE ARE JUMPING ON IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN BUT THE CORONAVIRUS IS DEFINITELY MAKING A PRESENCE IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS IT IS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. BUT AS IT OCCURS, WE ARE NOTIFYING THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE DONE A SPECTACULAR JOB OF STAYING ON TOP OF THE SITUATION. THE BUDGET PROCESS, IT'S COMPLETE. AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING YOU WITH A BALANCED BUDGET THAT MEETS OR EXCEEDS YOUR EXPECTATIONS AND NEEDS. YOUR NUMBER ONE DIRECTIVE TO US WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD THE ADEQUATE FUNDING TO PUT THEM IN THE PROPER STEP IN THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED. THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED JULY 13 ALONG WITH THE BUDGET THAT STILL ADDRESSES OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AND INITIATIVES WITHOUT HAVING TO LAY OFF ANY WARM BODIES. NO ONE WILL LOSE THEIR JOB NOR SHALL WE HAVE FURLOUGHS. AND I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE WHO STAYED UP MANY NIGHTS CRUNCHING NUMBERS AND DON IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AT WHAT SHE DOES. WE PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AND RESPONSIBLE AND MEETS YOUR NEEDS. AT THIS TIME THAT IS A REVIEW AND SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MIMS? THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATED. HOURS LATE AND WE APPRECIATED. >> MR. SWEENEY, >> NOTHING THERE. THANK YOU. >> MADAME CLERK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALREADY. [16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION] WHAT'S NEXT. >> COMMENTS FROM THE CAPTURE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? I CAN. YES, SIR. OUR FIRST REMINDERS I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE NEWS AT ST. LUCIE COUNTY WOULD START SCHOOL IN AUGUST. SO I DIDN'T CATCH THE BEGINNING OF THE ENDING OF AUGUST. I JUST HEARD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RESTART [04:10:06] SCHOOL IN AUGUST. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET ON BOARD WITH. -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- IN THE SCHOOLS. AUGUST IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. >> AND MR. SWEENEY, JUST ONE COMMENT I MADE WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE -- TEMPERATURE INFORMATION TO ME TODAY. I NOTICE THAT YOUR SPEAKING OF THE MAYOR AS A HE. NOW WE -- WE'VE GOT SOME HISTORY BEHIND US. WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE HERE SHE. SO THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS AND IT SHOULD BE NOT LISTED ARBITRARILY, HE. AM I RIGHT? >> YES. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THAT. SO WE WILL WORK TO ADDRESS THAT. >> OKAY. AND FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, THE DECRIMINALIZATION OF MARIJUANA, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT. AND I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE SINCE THEY CALLED ON ME FIRST BUT I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS. AND NEED BE, I'LL PUT ON THE AGENDA IT'LL BE MY DISCUSSION WITH MY CITY MANAGER. THAT'S IT FOR ME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VARONA. >> THANK YOU QUICKLY ON HIS SENSES. I DON'T THINK WE GET REMADE WITHOUT USING THAT WORD 50 TIMES IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH AND IS NOT GETTING DONE I KNOW WE ARE REALLY GOOD THROUGH THE CHURCHES, THE HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS, THE PUBLIC ASSIST EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN THINK OF. THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. WE DEFINITELY -- IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THOSE FUNDS HERE TO FORT PIERCE. I WANT TO THANK THE CODE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR KEEPING A LID ON THE FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND (LAUGHING). YOU GUYS WERE OUT IN FULL FORCE AND IT WAS KEEPING THE PARKS CLOSED, WHICH WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A NICE DAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: UNTIL IT WASN'T. >> UNTIL IT WASN'T, RIGHT. AND THAT IS JUST SO HAPPENED THAT IT CLEARED UP JUST IN TIME TO SHOOT FIREWORKS WHICH HAPPENED ALL OVER FORT PIERCE. IN THE ABSENCE OF US PUTTING ON A BIG SHOW EVERYONE PUT ON THEIR BIG SHOW. WE HAD PAPER ALL OVER THE YARD IN THE MORNING, BUT STILL A GOOD JOB. STAFF DID A GOOD JOB KEEPING US SAFE DURING THAT TIME. INTERESTING, A LOT OF IT WILL WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE ENERGETIC AND ORGANIZED. YOU ARE ORGANIZED, YOU ARTICULATE, YOU APPROACHED US ON ISSUES THAT I DID NOT HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT WAS GOING ON. NOW I KNOW ABOUT THE DECRIMINALIZATION, BUT KNOWING THAT -- I THOUGHT THAT LEGISLATION, BORDER FLOOD COMACK FLORIDA LEGISLATION THERE WAS NO ACTION. IT'S NOT ON THE BALLOT AND FIGURAL HAPPEN ANOTHER YEAR. BUT IT'S -- IT'S THE SEED OF FOLKS LIKE YOU. AND I'M NOT CALLING YOU YOUNG PEOPLE ANYMORE. YOU ARE PEERS. YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING. YOU IDENTIFY A SITUATION, A PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX IT. CONGRATULATIONS TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS BUT I WILL SAY THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE POLICE PERSPECTIVE IS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THIS INTERACTS. I THOUGHT SINCE THE MEDICAL RAVANA IN THE CBD ISSUE, THAT WE KINDA JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MARIJUANA OR IF IT'S A BYPRODUCT THAT'S LEGAL NOW AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT WAS GOING ON. YOUR WORLD IS DIFFERENT THAN MINE RIGHT NOW. BUT IT SHOULD BE. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO IF STAFF WILL GET US UP TO DATE I CAN'T DIRECT STAFF, BUT IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ISSUE, SO THAT WE CAN WEIGH IN AND MAKE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MAYBE THE POLICE ADVISORY BOARD OF THE POLICE -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. >> BE LIKE MAKING AN INFORMED [04:15:11] DECISION. WE DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT BUT WE LIKE MAKING THE INFORMED DECISION. WERE TRYING TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THIS. YOU'VE GOT US THINKING ABOUT IT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND WE NEED TO PICK THAT UP AND MOVE IT FORWARD. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY MIND. I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET ALL THAT ACCOMPLISHED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, BUT WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. WE HAVE NOW TASKED STAFF TO MOVE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN AROUND HERE. INTERESTING ENOUGH, I HAVE FOUR PEOPLE, SOME FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE RECENTLY GOTTEN TESTED. ONE PARANOIA AND SORRY, DEAR, WE HAD THE GRANDBABY COMING THIS WEEK AND SHE JUST SAID SHE KNOWS THAT SHE HAD SAW SOMEBODY IN THE YARD THAT HAD TESTED POSITIVE AT THAT THAT SOMEHOW THOSE DROPLETS GOT INSIDE THE HOUSE AND RIGHTLY SO. SHE WANTING A TESTED, BUT IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO 10 DAYS TO GET THE RESULTS BACK AND THAT IS THE ENGLISH. I'M NOT SAYING ALL OVER THE PLACE, SHE WENT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THROUGH ONE OF THE DRUGSTORES SO THAT TESTED KNOW I KIND OF STUFF. AND SHE PUT THAT IT'S AN EMERGENCY. AND IT STILL TOOK EIGHT DAYS FOR HER TO GET -- THE BABY CAME AND LEFT BY THE TIME THIS HAPPENED. WE HAD TO HAVE A BIG FAMILY MEETING TO DETERMINE THAT SHE -- SHE WAS NOT AFFECTED, WHICH WAS TRUE, BY THE WAY WE FOUND OUT. BUT INTERESTING ENOUGH IT USED TO TAKE A DAY. IN FACT, WE HAD OUR LOCAL PARTNERS THAT CAME AND TOLD US THAT THEY CAN JUST MAKE THE TURN AROUND IS A DAY OR LESS. NOW BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF FOLKS BEING TESTED IS TAKING MORE TIME. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ANGUISH THAT HAPPENS WHILE YOU'RE WAITING TO FIND OUT AND YOU'VE GOT YOURSELF QUARANTINED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT HELP IN THAT ARE CHANGING DAILY DAY-TO-DAY THAT ARE AFFECTING US ALL. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE NIGHT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> JUST A WORD OF CAUTION TO EVERYONE OUT THERE, BE VERY CAREFUL IN TERMS OF HOW YOU GO ABOUT MOVING AROUND FROM DAY-TO-DAY. AS WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER BY COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, EVEN THE SCHOOL BOARD IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN RESUME BACK WITH HAVING SCHOOL, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT IS A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD BECAUSE EVEN THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF MAY HAVE TO CHANGE HIS MIND IF THINGS TO CONTINUE TO GO IN THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING. AS FAR AS THE YOUNG YOUNG MEN AND LADIES I WAS MOVED BY THEM. HE REMINDED ME OF MYSELF, AND BE ENCOURAGED. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALSO TO REMEMBER THAT THE PLATFORM FOR LEGALIZING WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, AS FAR AS A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF MARIJUANA, YOU NEED TO ALSO WORK ON YOUR STATE LEGISLATION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT LOCALLY, MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS MIAMI AND FORT LAUDERDALE ARE DOING IT FROM A IMMISCIBLE STANDPOINT, -- FROM A MUNICIPAL STANDPOINT THE KEY IS STATE LEGISLATION YOU NEED TO WORK COUPLE WITH THE STATE LEGISLATION TO TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I KNOW -- AND I MAY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH YOU ALL AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID, BUT I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF INDIVIDUALS BEING TAINTED WITH A RECORD FOR SMALL AMOUNTS OF MARIJUANA. THE PARAGRAPH NOTES -- SMOKING MARIJUANA IS SOMETHING I DON'T ENGAGE IN BUT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GET RECORDS FOR SMALL AMOUNTS OF MARIJUANA, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND TIME, IS JUST A SET UP FOR FAILURE. IT'S ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE UNLESS THAT CHANGES. SO HOLD YOUR HEAD UP. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU ARE IN CITY HALL INSTEAD OF FACEBOOK. BE ENCOURAGED. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT COMING HERE AND VOICING YOUR OPINION BECAUSE YOU CAN SIT AROUND AND GO BACK AND FORTH ON FACEBOOK ALL DAY LONG BUT YOU CAN GET NOTHING DONE. YOU'RE IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE THAT MAKES DECISIONS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO TO BE A PART OF CHANGE, IF THE PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO MAKE A CHANGE. [04:20:04] BE ENCOURAGED. CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU DOING I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN THE FUTURE IN YOUR MOVEMENT AND AGAIN, WORK ON YOUR STATE LEGISLATION IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS AS FAR IS THE CENSUS IS CONCERNED, SPEAKING WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE CENSUS, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THEY ARE NOW -- FROM WHAT SHE EXPLAINED TO ME, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME NOW TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT WITH MORE RECRUITERS. WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED WITH THE CENSUS, THE YOUNG MAN, HE CAME ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO. HE WAS SAYING THAT HE COULD NOT FIND INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE THAT WANTED TO WORK. IN FORT PIERCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FORGOT ABOUT IT, BUT I REMEMBER IT WELL. HE'S RIGHT. AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE SENSES IS THAT A LOT OF YOUR HISPANIC PEOPLE, IF IT'S NO ONE THAT THEY CAN RELATE TO WHAT THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH, THEY TEND TO RUN AWAY. IF THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE YOU, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SIT THERE AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEPORTING THEM. THEY DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU. SO THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WORK ON TRYING TO HIRE INDIVIDUALS IN THE BLACK AND HISPANIC COMMUNITY THAT NEW PEOPLE, THAT THEY COULD GO OUT ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AND THEY FELT THAT THEY WOULD BE MORE SUCCESSFUL. SOME LOOKING AND HOPING THAT THEY WILL KEEP THEIR WORDS AND DO THAT. I BELIEVE THEY WILL SEE A TURNAROUND IN TERMS OF THE CENSUS IN OUR AREA. AND AGAIN, I HOPE THAT THE COUNTY IS WATCHING TONIGHT. I SAW WHAT WENT ON OVER THERE IN ABOUT A WEEK AGO IN TERMS OF THEM, I GUESS, ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AGAIN, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M THAT TYPE OF PERSON. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT'S ON MY MIND. AND SO, AGAIN, I DO NOT NEED PUBLICITY. I DON'T NEED YOUR MONEY. WHAT I DO IS I GET PASSIONATE ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE TREATED UNFAIRLY AND UNJUST. AND WHEN I WAS ELECTED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I CAME OUT OF THE STARTING BLOCKS AND ADDRESSING ISSUES AND I'M GOING TO DO IT UNTIL INPUT OUT OF OFFICE. IF I'M PUT OUT. SO THAT'S THE WAY I AM. I OPERATE AND MOVE LIKE THAT. I'M CONSTANTLY DOING SOMETHING. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU FELT THAT WHAT I SAID ON THE 15TH -- AND AHMED TAKEN OUT ON YOU PERSONALLY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO. BUT BLACK LIVES DO MATTER. >> NOW, WHAT WE WILL DO, IS HOPEFULLY, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS DAY ON AND TAKE THIS MATTER SERIOUS. OUR CITY MANAGER HAS POINTED OUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT IT IS RIGHT HERE IN CITY HALL AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S EVEN AMONGST OUR OFFICES. WE ARE SITTING IN A BUILDING RIGHT NOW THAT THE VIRUS IS ACTIVE AND MOVING AROUND. SO, LET'S BE PROACTIVE. AND THE FIVE OF US ARE IN A POSITION TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE'S LIVES. I TAKE MY RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUS. I HOPE YOU WILL DO TO HIS WILL. I DO NOT WANT TO SIT BACK AND WHAT I WOULD'VE, SHOULD'VE AND COULD'VE DONE WHEN IT'S TOO LATE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY I DID ALL I COULD WHILE I COULD AT THE POINT THAT I WAS APPOINTED TO DO WHAT I COULD. AND AT THAT POINT, WHATEVER HAPPENS AT THAT POINT, IS BEYOND MY CONTROL. SO PLEASE, LET'S TAKE THIS MATTER SERIOUS. IT'S HAPPENING TO PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW. COMMISSIONER PERRONE, YOU KNOW SOMEBODY. I KNOW PEOPLE, SEVERAL PEOPLE. PEOPLE ARE SICK. PEOPLE ARE DYING. LET'S DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I DO NOT WANT TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING NOBODY ELSE, FORT PIERCE CAN DO AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WE CAN DO IT ON OUR OWN. I'VE NEVER BEEN THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT I NEED TO BE A FOLLOWER. I WANT TO BE A LEADER. IF IT MEANS STEPPING OUT FRONT FIRST, IN ORDER TO [04:25:01] MAKE A DIFFERENCE EVERYBODY CAN LOOK BACK AND THEY CAN TALK ABOUT ME, BUT AT LEAST AT THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE DONE WHAT I CAN DO AND I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING AS LONG AS I DO THE BEST I CAN WHILE AGAIN. THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YEAH. I APPLAUD YOU FOR BEING HERE AND SPEAKING YOUR HEART AND I'M ALL ABOUT GETTING THE FACTS IN THE DATA. I'M WITH THE COMMISSIONER. IN TRYING TO GET ALL OF THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM EVERY PERSPECTIVE, FROM A POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE BODY AND WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND TASKS AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO FOR LAWS ARE GETTING RID OF LAWS ARE CREATING NEW OPPORTUNITY. SO THANK YOU, EACH ONE OF YOU. AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR SITTING HERE IT'S ALMOST 11 O'CLOCK. GOOD JOB. >> THAT'S RIGHT (LAUGHING). GOOD STUFF. I LOVE IT. A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. I HEARD A COUPLE DISCUSSION ITEMS TONIGHT. MR. MIMS, IF WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE, OR WHERE ARE WE ON ANNEXING PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS AREAS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME ITEMS COMING BEFORE US IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, NEXT MEETING MAY BE DID I SEE THAT? I SAW IT MAY BE IN YOUR REPORT. IF WE COULD GET AN ANNEXATION UPDATE THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. SO, AMERICAN RED CROSS SENT US AN EMAIL I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT 20/20 HURRICANE SEASON. IT'S A REAL DEAL AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S JULY 6. SO THEY ARE PREPARING FOR HELPING OUR COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S FEEDING, SHELTERING, ALL THE PARAMETERS. RESOURCES FOR FORT PIERCE. SO THAT SPURRED ON -- IF MR. MIMS, IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON ANY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR THE EMERGENCY SHELTER OR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. I KNOW WE HAD FOLKS WORKING ON GRANTS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE -- I HOPE THERE IS BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE AN UPDATE WHAT ARE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS GOING TO DO IN THE EVENT OF NOT ONLY THE PANDEMIC, BUT NOW HURRICANE IF IT WERE TO COME. HOW DO YOU DISTANCE A SHIFT, B SHIFT, IT'S ALL THESE THINGS ARE RATTLING IN MY HEAD. THAT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION. >> HOW DO YOU SANITIZE? >> THAT'S -- THAT IS A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION. THE OTHER THING -- I KNOW CHEYENNE GAVE US AN UPDATE NOT TOO LONG AGO ABOUT OUR PARK LESSON WHAT IS THE BUSINESS INTEREST. JUST A POLLING OF HOW THAT IS GOING AND WHAT KIND OF SUCCESS ARE WE SEEING. WILL THAT CONTINUE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RISING AND NUMBERS AND THE GOVERNOR IS NOT CHANGING THE STANCE TOO MUCH. BUT JUST AN UPDATE ON PARK LET'S WOULD BE AWESOME. AND I RECEIVED EMAILS RECENTLY ABOUT OUR FINE POLICE OFFICERS IN SOME THANKS AND APPRECIATION FOR THEIR HARD WORK. THAT WAS A COUPLE OF THEM. AND SO I WANT TO SAY GOOD JOB AND THANK YOU AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND YOUR HARD WORK IS BEING NOTICED. LET'S SEE? SENSES. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD WRITTEN DOWN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. IN TALKING ABOUT MARIJUANA. I WILL HAVE TO -- I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE ROUNDTABLE AND THE ROUNDTABLE HAS A DRUG-FREE ST. LUCIE. AND SO THAT IS PROBABLY DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE USE PERIOD. AND SO, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THE ROUNDTABLE. I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME INFORMATION IN -- BUT I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID. AND I'M INTERESTED IN THIS, THE PROBLEM OF THE ASPECT OF WHAT YOU SAID. I'M INTERESTED. BUT I WILL HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT ALREADY HAVE IN MY HEAD THAT I WILL HAVE TO OVERCOME. BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE ADVISORY BOARD AND FROM CITIZENS BECAUSE YOUR EXPERIENCES REALLY MOVED ME. AND I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. IN SOME INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE. AND I'M OPEN AND OBJECTIVE AND I WANT TO LEARN. AND SO -- I ALSO WANT TO CLOSE [04:30:13] TO SAY THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE SENSES TONIGHT. AND I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY PUT THIS IN THEIR BILL. EVERYBODY WHO GETS THE UTILITY BILL GETS AN INSERT THAT TELLS YOU TO COMPLETE THE SENSES AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR YOU TO COMPLETE THE SENSES. WE WANT TO REITERATE THAT. AND ON THE BACK, IT TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HURRICANES. IT'S A 241. SO THANK YOU FORT PIERCE UTILITIES FOR DOING THAT. AND SO NOW, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO -- CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? >> ON JULY 1, OUR ANIMAL SHELTER BECAME ACTIVE AGAIN ON SAVANNA ROAD. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT NUMBERS ARE, BUT IT'S A PARTNERSHIP EFFORT, COUNTY, CITY AND IT'S ALIVE AND WELL. >> GOOD POINT. >> YES, SIR. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS AFFECTING THE SENSES, I REMEMBER BACK -- I WAS HERE IN 2010 WE WENT THROUGH THAT, THE STUDENTS WERE HELPING, GOING HOME IN TALKING TO THE PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS AND AUNTS AND UNCLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE PARTICIPATING. NOW WE HAVE. >> WE HAVE THE DISCONNECT JUST ONE YOU WERE TALKING AND I WAS THINKING MYSELF IT WAS SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WAS REALLY A GOOD TOOL, A GOOD -- WE'VE LOST THAT. >> SO I MEAN, WERE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE IT UP. >> AND THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO HELP US AND WILL ONLY HELP US LATELY IS THEY'VE PUSHED BACK THE DATE TO OCTOBER QUICK SO IT WAS GOING TO BE OVER IN JUNE. THEY PUSHED BACK TO OCTOBER BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HARD RESULTS. WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN. WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYONE TO DO IS MOVE OUT TO THE FOYER, PLEASE BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS WE PACK UP OUR STUFF APPEARED THAT IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ANYBODY ON THE DAIS, YOU CAN DO SO OUT IN THE FOYER AND SO, SHALL WE ADJOURN? OKAY. ADJOURNED * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.