Dec 14, 2020 City Commission Conference Agenda

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COMMISSIONER PERONA IS ON HIS WAY.

>> ALL RIGHT >> I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO

[1. Call to Order]

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH

JOHNSON? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> AND COMMISSIONER PERONA. AS I SAID, HE'S ON HIS WAY.

SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DRAFT PORT PIERCE MASTER

[a. Draft Port of Fort Pierce Master Plan presentation]

PLAN COMMISSION. >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER HANEY THAT IS WITH US.

THERE MAY BE OTHERS I DON'T RECOGNIZE BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS

MASKS ON. >> AT THIS TIME, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, WE HAVE OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR.

WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY THAT ARE HERE TO PRESENT

THE FORT PIERCE MASTER PLAN. >> GOOD MORNING..

THIS MORNING, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE DRAFT MASTER PLAN FOR THE COURT AND CORE BENSON. I WILL BE HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS FOLLOWING THIS.

>> GOOD MORNING. MAYOR HUDSON, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

WE HAVE A COLLABORATIVE TEAM. ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE, STAN PAYNE, PORT MANAGER. AND TUNING REMOTELY, WE HAVE LEAD CONSULTANT, MOFFET NICKEL AND PLANNING AND DIRECTING COMMISSIONER IN ST. LUCIE'S COUNTY.

>> KEY CONTRIBUTORS TO THE MASTER PLAN.

AND THIS EFFORT BEGAN IN FEBRUARY WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO UPDATE THE PORT MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA EVERY FIVE YEARS FOR THE SEA PORTS WITHIN THE STATE TO UPDATE THEIR MASTER PLAN.

IT'S ONE OF FLORIDA'S 14 SEAPORTS.

THIS ENDEAVOR WAS IMPORTANT TO ENGAGING THE PUBLIC, POLICYMAKERS TO HELP SET THE VISION FOR THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY CHANGE TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DIVERSITY AS WELL AS SOCIAL PROGRESSION TO INSURE THE PORT PROVIDES A LASTING IMPRESSION IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE OBSERVE ITS POTENTIAL FOR MANY DECADES.

2 2020.

IT'S BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR 100 YEARS AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE IT'S UNDER UTILIZED AND UNDER OPERATED FOR THE 100 YEARS.

SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITY.

LEADING UP TO, TO DAY AND WE'LL HIGHLIGHT IT IN OUR PRESENTATION. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS, MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND POLICYMAKERS AND AS WELL AS FINE TUNE, IN EVALUATING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE FORT PIERCE, MARKING FOR PARTICULAR USES AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE. I WANT TO PRESENT IT TO SCOTT MCCURE, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REVIEWED ACCEPTED IN NOVEMBER AND OFFERED TO TRANSMIT TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR YOUR

REVIEW, INPUT AND NEXT STEPS. >> GOOD MORNING, SCOTT.

>> GOOD MORNING, CORY. AM I COMING TO YOU LOUD AND

CLEAR? >> YES.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR HUDSON AND COMMISSIONERS.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU ON THE PHONE.

I WISH I WAS WITH YOU IN PERSON. I CERTAINLY ENJOYED THE OPPORTUNITY AT LEAST GET TO KNOW SOME OF YOU TRUE TO THE PLANNING PROCESS AND TO WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN WE WILL SHOWCASING AND HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE KEY DRAFT COMPONENTS AS PART OF THE EFFORT THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH THE CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

CORY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE PROMPTS ON WHICH SLIDES

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WE WORKED THROUGH AN INT VENTTIVE PROCESS, UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUES ARE, LEARNING MORE AND MORE OF THE SITE, EXPLORING WHAT THE OPTIONS COULD AND SHOULD BE BASED ON THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITE. COMING UP WITH APPROACHES TO ULTIMATELY MAKE DECISIONS AND, OF COURSE, FINALIZING THE MASTER PLAN DRAFT, WHICH WOULD BE PRESENTING THE DRAFT TODAY.

AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THE FINAL COMPONENTS IN DETAILING, REALLY THE LAST WEEK OR SO, TO GET THIS ULTIMATE VERSION COMPLETED FOR THE COUNTY.

THE QUESTION THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, THAT THE COUNTY IS CHALLENGED US TO ADDRESS, THAT WE'VE CHALLENGED THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC OUTREACH IS WHAT WAYS SHOULD WE REALLY THINK ABOUT A PLACE THAT IS CELEBRATING 100 YEARS OF THE OPERATION, HISTORY, LOOKING INTO THE NEXT 100 YEARS.

HOW BEST COULD THE DIFFERING PROPERTIES THAT EXIST OUT TO PORT EMBRACE NEW WAYS TO THINK ABOUT CREATING JOBS AND ENGAGING THE PUBLIC IN ENGAGING BUSINESSES THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. AND TO DO ALL THE THINGS WITHOUT CREATING DETRIMENT TO THE GREAT THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY, THE PLANS THAT ARE BEING ADVANCED BY THE CRA AND THE WORK FISHERMAN'S WHARFE AND THINGS THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE AREA. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND CERTAINLY DEALING WITH THE PORT AS UNIQUE AS THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE, WE HAD TO ASK THAT QUESTION IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE ASPECTS OF THE PORT THAT'S DEVELOPED AND HISTORY GOING BACK SEVERAL AND SEVERAL DECADES IN BEING AN EXCELLENT EXPORT PORT IN AGRICULTURAL AND PROJECTS IN THE TREASURE COAST, AND MANY ARE BEING IMPROVED AND OPERATED BY AINTENANCE AND OVERALL ND THEIR ACTIVITIES.

THAT'S SORT OF THE MAIN SPACE, THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY HEAR THE PORT, THE SILOS AND THE EXISTING BIRTH THAT THE DIRECTOR WILL BE AT, COUNTY AND PROPERTY, AS WELL AS COUNTY PROPERTIES.

THE VIEIA BROTHERS ADJACENT TO THE PORT SITE.

THE ENTIRE AREA THAT SOME IS CONTROLLED, IN FACT, A LARGE PORTION IS CONTROLLED BY A HANDFUL OF PROPERTY OWNERS, GREEN AREA IN THE MIDDLE, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT.

WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT AREA COULD PRIVATELY OR PUBLICLY OR PUBLIC PRIVATE APPROACH FORWARD COULD BE EMPLOYED TO IMPROVE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE.

LOOKING AT THE 20 ACRE HARBOR POINT, COUNTY OWNED HARBOR POINT PARK AREA, WHICH IS IN THE SOUTHERN MOUNT OF THE CREEK, HOW COULD THAT BE ENGAGED AND THAT MANY OF THE COMPONENTS.

THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING.

WE WORK REALLY HARD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

AS I OFTEN TELL FOLKS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON, MY WORLD IS A TRANSLATOR AND WORKING HARD TO LISTEN AND TO LEARN AND TO ULTIMATELY SUGGEST PATHS FORWARD THAT MAKES SENSE AND ARE ROUTED IN A UNIQUENESS OF A PLACE. WE'RE CERTAINLY CHALLENGED BY COVID. WE OVERCAME THE CHALLENGE THROUGH USING A MULTIFACETTED APPROACH TO PUBLIC OUTREACH.

WE HAD A WEEKLY CONFERENCE CALL WITH AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT'S ESTABLISHED AND MET, WAS COMPOSED OF FOLKS IN THE COUNTY, JENNIFER HOCKMEISTER AND OTHERS. WE CAN TALK WEEKLY ABOUT HOW DO WE REACH THE PUBLIC? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES? WHAT ARE THE IDEAS THAT THEY MOVE FORWARD? THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL OF CORY AND LESLIE, THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL TO GET TO THE POINT WE HAVE TODAY.

WE HAVE LOTS OF FOCUS ONE ON ONE OUTREACH.

CERTAINLY THE BELL SISTERS AND EVERYBODY THAT OWNS PROPERTY IN THE AREA. EVERYBODY THAT HAS A STAKE IN THE AREA AND OTHERS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.

WE'VE PROBABLY HAD MORE THAN 50 MEETINGS TO REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE GROUND.

AND THEN, ALTHOUGH WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO HAVE

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AND WEBSITE, THE ABILITY TO HOST THE MEETINGS, PRIMARY MEETING, THAT WE CAN COLAB RATE WITH THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

WE HAD TWO SESSIONS, PUBLIC IN GAUGEMENT.

THE FIRST BRIDGE, LATE JULY AND THE SECOND BRIDGE, TO EARLY AUGUST. WE LAUNCHED A WEBSITE, WE HAD A NEW SURVEY AND WE DROVE AS MANY CHANNELS OF GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED WHETHER THEY SIGNED UP TO GET AN E-MAIL TO THE TEAM, THAT HEARD IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, READ IT ABOUT IN THE PRESS, LEARNED FROM THE ADVISER COMMITTEE, FOLKS AT THE WEEKLY FARMER'S MARKET WERE COMMUNICATING IT, HOWEVER WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT, WE WERE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, PLEASE GO TO THE WEBSITE. WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

AS PART OF THAT, WE HOSTED SIX LIVE STREAMING COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS. THREE IN SESSION ONE AND THREE IN SESSION TWO, THAT ALLOWED US IN REAL-TIME TO PRESENT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, SHOW IDEAS AND TO EITHER THROUGH STREAMING COMMENTS, THROUGH CALL-IN, THROUGH E-MAIL, AND FOLLOW-UP TO -- IN REAL-TIME, SAY, HEY, I LIKE THIS

>> HERE'S AN IDEA. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THE RESTORATION PROGRAM THAT'S COMING IN SITE.

BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS AVAILABLE TO VISUAL TOOLS, WE HAVE SURVEYS ESTABLISHED AT THREE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY DURING THE PROCESS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE ALSO, FOLKS COULDN'T COME ON-LINE. THEY COULD VISIT THE POSTERS.

ALL THE MATERIALS STILL EXIST TODAY IN THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS PLAN PORT FP.COM. EVERYBODY COULD REVIEW THE MEETINGS IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE LIVE.

EVERY MAP THAT WAS GENERATED CIRCULATED TO THE PUBLIC, FOLKS COULD GET UP TO SPEED QUICKLY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO TAKE PART IN THE PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, CORY.

THIS ONE SHOWS SOME OF THE SUCCESSES, SOME OF THE QUICK DEMOGRAPHICS, WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAD VERY STRONG PARTICIPATION, GIVEN THE CHALLENGES OF COVID-19, THE FACT THAT WE WERE VIRTUAL. WE RECORDED ALMOST 400 MEETING PARTICIPANTS IN THE SIX SESSIONS, WHETHER THEY LOGGED IN THROUGH FACEBOOK LIVE OR DIRECTLY THROUGH THE WEBSITE, DURING THE SIX MEETINGS, WE HAD ABOUT 400 FOLKS PARTICIPATE.

WE HAD MORE THAN 600 INDIVIDUALS COMPLETE SOME OR ALL OF THE SURVEY QUESTIONS WE OFFERED. WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT SURVEYS.

LOTS OF WEBSITE VIEWS AND AS I MENTIONED SOME OF THE STATE OR QUARTER OUTREACH. WE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE AND ROOTED AND BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND WE LEARNED LOTS OF THINGS. WE CAN SPEND HOURS TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS WE LEARNED. AND SOME OF THE KEY THINGS, THIS IS A KEY WATERFRONT. IT DOES SOME REALLY INTERESTING THINGS TODAY AND WE BELIEVE IT COULD DO A LOT MORE IN THE FUTURE. WE BELIEVE PART OF THE STRENGTH IS KEEPING IT DIVERSED. KEEPING LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES OPEN MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE, THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY OR PUBLIC SECTOR COULD HELP DRIVE THE MAIN THINGS.

WE WANT JOBS, ECONOMIC BEING UTILIZED WITH THE HE PORT- COMMENCEMENT OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT IT HAS.

THERE'S LOTS OF SMALL OR OTHER PINPOINTS ON THE MAP.

PLEASE MAKE SURE THE ASPECT OF THE ARTIFICIAL REEF PROGRAM IS PRESERVED. PLEASE MAKE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE A BOAT RAMP BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMMODITY IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT THE FOLKS WERE BRINGING OUR ATTENTION TO.

SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A HIGHLIGHT OF THE OUTREACH.

OF COURSE, CORY, IN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SHOWS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, FROM THE FIRST OUTREACH SESSION.

IT WAS QUESTION NUMBER TWO, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY ONE.

BECAUSE AS WE WERE IN DEEP LISTENING MODE, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT LAND USES, WHETHER THE LONG RANGE, YOU KNOW, LAND USE PLAN OR OTHER THINGS.

WE WANT TO SAY, HEY, PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDERS, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS, WOULD RESONATE WITH YOU IN THE PORT.

IN GENERAL, WE HEARD THAT MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SORT OF OFFERED, SUCH AS MARINE TECHNOLOGY AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL

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MOST FOLKS AGREED OR COMBINATION OF STRONGLY AGREED AND AGREED.

MANY, IF NOT MANY, WERE SUITABLE TO EXPLORE THE SITE.

THERE WERE THINGS LIKE COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND RETAIL THAT KIND OF RANG A LITTLE HOLLOW.

THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST AS MANY NEUTRAL OR DON'T KNOW, IF -- I DON'T LIKE IT. THERE'S SOME OF AGREEMENT, RESIDENTIAL USES, NOT SO MUCH, THOUGHT WELL OF, ET CETERA.

WE ALSO SORT OF BROKE DOWN THE INFORMATION BY ZIP CODE.

WHEN WE AGLOM RATED, THIS IS THE SECOND ITEM IN GREEN.

WHEN WE AGLOMRATED AS THOSE LIVING IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE WANTED TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT. IN THIS FOLKS, WE ADDED FOLKS THAT AGREED AND STRONGLY AGREED. MOST OF THE ORANGE CELLS FILLED OUT AND THEN WE HAD FOLKS WHO WERE NEUTRAL.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE USES, ONLY ONE CATEGORY HAD A MAJORITY OF FOLKS STRONGLY DISAGREE AND DISAGREE, AND FOLKS THAT IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THAT'S LOGISTICS AND DISTRIBUTION SUCH AS TRUCKING AND RAIL COMMUNITIES LINKED AND SEPARATE TO ANY PORT MARINE FEATURES.

WHEN WE DELVED INTO THE COMMENTS TO WHY, HEY, YOU COULD PUT WAREHOUSES IN THE COUNTY. WE'RE CONCERNED THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCKS COMING AND GOING, AND THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO GET TO THE PORT. THE RAILWAY DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY NEW POINTS OF ACCESS. AND HEY, A PORT IS A PORT.

AND IT'S LINKED TO DEEP ACTION OF CHANNEL BASIN.

THERE'S MANY REASONS. I'M SURE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE DEALT. FOR THE MOST PART, YEP, 76 PERCENT, I LIKE MARINE TECH. AND THOSE ARE IMPORTANT DATA POINTS THAT WE STARTED THEN. NEXT SLIDE, CORY, DRAW CONCEPTS.

WHEN WE GOT TO THE POINT IN BEING IN LATE JULY, EARLY AUGUST, WE OFFERED TO THE COMMUNITY, AS PART OF PUBLIC OUTREACH SESSION TWO, IDEAS, ALMOST CARTOONISH IN NATURE.

BASED ON THE LAND USES, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN ASSEMBLE THEM IN THE SITE. WHETHER THEY WERE IN THE PUBLIC PROPERTIES, WHETHER THEY WERE PRIVATE PROPERTIES, WHETHER THEY WERE ADJACENT TO THE PORT. THESE ARE THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE. THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VALIDATED TO THE PUBLIC.PWE DID ASSESSMENT.

WE'VE BEEN DOING PORT MASTER PLANNING FOR A LONG TIME.

WE HEARD FROM 50-PLUS STAKE STAKEHOLDERS. AND LOOKING AT THE OTHER PORTS AND OTHER CASE STUDIES. HOW DO THESE USES MAKE SENSE THAT ARE COMPELLING. WHEN ASKED, WHICH OF THESE YOU LIKE THE BEST, WE HAD A SCATTER SHOT OF RESPONSES.

THE TAKE AWAY IS KIND OF MAIN THING.

NUMBER ONE, 60 PERCENT OF RESPONSES, I LIKE NONE OF THEM OR NO OPINION. AND THAT MEANT, AT LEAST 80 PERCENT LIKED MAJORITY. AND I THINK A HYBRID MAKES SENSE. THERE'S SOMETHING TO LIKE WITHIN THE CONCEPTS. AS WE FOLLOWED WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AS WE FOLLOWED THE DISCUSSION WITH THE BELLS, THE PRIMARY PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS GOT IN THE COMMENT SECTION, IT SEEMED LIKE A HYBRID APPROACH FOR THE PROPERTY OF THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTS, REALLY WAS THE SING GULL LAR APPROACH THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE.

THAT'S WHERE WE PROCEEDED IN THE PLAN-MAKING PART.

ONE THING WE ASK THE PUBLIC AND WE ALWAYS DO THIS WHEN WE'RE DOING THE PORT MASTER PLANNING, WE TRY TO MAKE A SAYING.

WHAT ARE THE RULES DRAWING IN THE MASTER PLAN? WE PUT OUT A MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE PLAN.

NOT FOR THE PORT BUT FOR THE PLAN, THAT FOLKS, REALLY RESONATED, MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS AGREE.

IF YOU ADD STRONGLY AGREE AND AGREE, IT'S ALMOST 80 PERCENT, OVER 80 PERCENT OF THE FOLKS, THE MISSION STATEMENT, ALLOW AND ENABLE PUBLIC AND LAND HOLDINGS TO CREATE THE TREASURE COVE PREMIERE YACHT MARINE INDUSTRY, COMMITTEE MADE SENSE TO US.

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IT'S HAPPENING INCREMENTALLY. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE AND WE WANTED TO BENEFIT THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WE GOTTEN WHAT OUR RALLYING CRY AND WHAT OUR MISSION FOR DRAWINGS AND THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.

CORY, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S THE BIRD'S-EYE VIEW OR THE DRONE VIEW OR THE COMMON VE VERNICLAR, AND THE RED THAT YOU SEE, THAT'S THE CORE AREA THAT WE'RE STUDYING.

IT'S ABOUT 255 ACRES OF LAND AND WATER AREA.

AS WE MENTIONED, SOME OF IT DEVELOPED, A LOT OF IT NOT.

THAT'S THE SPACE AND PLACE THAT WE WERE DRAWING CONCEPTS.

THE EARLY CARTOONS. AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE ULTIMATE VISION OF THE PORT GOING FORWARD.

AND AS YOU COULD SEE, QUESTION FILL LOTS OF GAPS.

THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN THAT WORKS 20 YEARS OUT.

AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE'LL WORK ON A REGULAR BASIS EVERY FIVE YEARS, TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALWAYS ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OTHER ISSUES GOING IN THE COMMUNITY, SO WHEN THE STATE GRANTS MONEY, THEY KNOW THE GRANTS AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE SORT OF CON GRUNT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PLACE. THE VISION LOOKS TO CAPITALIZE OF MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.

CAN WE, YES, EXPAND, YACHT MARINE, EXPAND, AND BEYOND THE DIRECTOR SITE. AND LOOK AT INVESTING PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT OF THINGS LIKE A SYNCHRONIZE SYSTEM THAT WILL LINK THE YACHTS, OUT OF THE SYSTEM IN THE VARIOUS BAYS, AND WORKSHOP AREAS THAT WOULD BE REPAIRED.

ONE UNIQUE THING THAT WE HEARD, THIS IS A GROWING BUSINESS AND IT HAS SOME BUMPS AND CHALLENGES.

FOR THE MOST PART IN SOUTH FLORIDA, YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. REALLY PHENOMENAL OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS AND HOW IT HAS BEEN GROWING. WHETHER IT'S -- IN WEST PALM BEACH OR MANY OF THE DIFFERENT OPERATION IN FORT LAUDERDALE OR MIAMI. EVEN IN SAVANNAH, THIS IS GROWING AND CREATES A JOB CREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

THE DIRECTORS AND OTHERS ARE DIRECTLY EMPLOYING INDIVIDUALS FROM 80-100 INDIVIDUALS. A LOT WORK ON SITE THAT'S THE EMPLOYEES. AND THERE'S SPILL OVER EFFECTS THAT IS FROM THE BUSINESSES. THAT'S THE HALLMARK OF THE SITE.

WE CREATED AND SUPPORTED THE IDEA THERE SHOULD BE SOME INPORT, EXPORT ACTIVITY, AND I WILL TALK, TO THE EAST OF THE SHIP THAT'S GROWING. AND IT WILL BE FULLY ACCEPTED TO THE PUBLIC, BOATING AND OTHER RECREATIONAL PURSUITS IN THE SITE. WE TRY TO DO IT IN HARMONY WITH THE MANY BUSINESSES THAT EXISTS AND GREAT THINGS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR IN FISHERMAN'S WHARF.

AND TO REMIND YOU, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S INCREMENTALLY ACHIEVED. WE HAVE SOME SHORT THINGS THAT WE FOCUS ON TODAY AND THERE'S LONG-TERM OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BASED ON THE SUCCESSES OF THE SHORT TERM INVESTMENTS AND THAT COULD BE CAPITALIZED ON WHATEVER PRIORITIZATION AND THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR OF THE SITE. CORY, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE SLIDE ON YOUR SCREEN SHOULD SHOW YOU SOME DOTS. THERE'S THREE ORANGE DOTS AND THERE'S SIX BLUE DOTS. TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION PREDOMINANTLY TO THE ORANGE DOTS, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE PLAN RECOMMENDS HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, STARTING AFTER ADOPTION. NUMBER ONE, RENEWAL AND REDEVELOPMENT OF HARBOR POINT PARK.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE DETAILS. AND TAKING THE 20 ACRES, IT'S NICE. YOU COULD LOOK OUT IN THE WATER.

IT COULD BE DEEPLY ENGAGED AND DOING SOME THINGS THAT ARE GREAT FOR PUBLIC AND CREATE SOME REVENUES THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE OFFSETTING TO THE COSTS IMPROVED IN THE AREA.

HAVING SOME PUBLIC RECREATIONAL LAUNCH, AND HAVING A RENEWED RESTORATION, HAVING WALKING TRAILS, HAVING A RESTAURANT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WORKING AS A PLACE, CINGULAR PLACE, CREATING

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AND B, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE BELIEVE IS A GREAT LOCATION TO HAVE RENEWED IMPORT AND EXPORT ACTIVITY.

THE DIRECTOR IN THE INDIAN RIVER TERMINAL SITE AND BY THE ONLY INDUSTRIAL RELATED ACTIVITY IN THE WATER'S EDGE, THERE'S NEEDS.

NOT ONLY IN MARKET ANALYSIS BUT TALKING TO STAKEHOLDERS, UNDERSTANDING THE MARKET IN GENERAL, WE DO THINGS.

THERE'S INTERESTING OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SMALL IMPORT-EXPORT, WHETHER IT'S PREFAB HOUSES TO LOAD IN THE BAHAMAS, OR OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT COMES AND GOES, THAT BY CREATING A NEW WHARF, WE CALL IT EAST WHARF THAT YOU COULD SUPPORT THOSE ACTIVITIES. AND MAYBE IN THE BEGINNING, YOU COULD ENTICE C TO MOVE ON TO 1B AND CREATING THE OPPORTUNITY AND CREATING BETTER EFFICIENCY IN FISHERMAN'S WHARF THAT EXTENDS TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE PORT ALL THE WAY TO THE BEST VIEWS OF THE WATER AND WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING TO PUT ONE OF THE BEST INVESTMENTS. AND WE'RE BEING LOOKING AT THE SHIPPING YARD, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 120 ACRES OF YACHT ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN THAT LOCATION, THAT WOULD HAVE WET SLIPS, PLACES IN THE WATER AND DRY POSITIONS, WHERE YOU'RE TAKING THE BOAT OUT AND YOU'RE SLIDING IT TO THE ONE OF THE BAYS OF THE WORK, IN AREAS WHERE THE VESSEL WILL BE WORKED ON.

AND YOU HAVE IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT EUROPE.

THE GREAT THING, YOU HAVE NO AIR DRAFT RESTRICTION.

MANY THAT WE TALKED TO, THERE'S ONE OF A FEW PLACES IN THE WORLD AND CERTAINLY IN THE EAST COAST, YOU COULD USE THE LARGE SAILING AND IN WATER, ON LAND, SLIDE THE POSITION AND TAKE THE MASK OFF AND IMPROVE THEM, UPDATE THEM. FIX THE SAILS, WHATEVER IT IS TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, CORY.

NOW I WILL JUMP IN A COUPLE OF AREAS, HIGHLIGHT THEM.

WHEN WE CIRCLE BACK, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

HERE, WE HIGHLIGHTED THE CONCEPT, LOTS MORE DESIGN AND STUDY AND FUNDING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

FROM THE MASTER PLANNING, AS WE MENTIONED, WE SAW WE CAN CREATE A DIVERSE PUBLICLY ACCEPTABLE WATERFRONT, IN WATER WET SLIPS THAT EXTEND AND INTO THE AIR AND INTERCOASTAL WATER WAY.

THERE MAY NEED TO BE A BREAK WATER THERE OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED. WE CREATED A WATERFRONT EDGE THAT IS EXPANDING FROM NUMBER 4, WHICH IS THE NEW BOAT RAMP AND BOAT LAUNCH FACILITY, WHERE YOU COULD TRAILER UP TO 50, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE 50 TRAILER PARKING SPACES.

YOU COULD LAUNCH AND TAILOR. YOU HAVE A SUNDRY SHOP THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT. YOU COULD BUY YOUR ITEM AND YOUR BOAT. AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A RESTAURANT. YOU HAVE A GREAT PUBLIC PARK.

YOU HAVE A GREAT SANDY BEACH AT NUMBER 6.

YOU HAVE A PLACE TO GET AN ICE CREAM.

YOU HAVE NOW A VERY FORMALIZE, RESTORATION CENTER, THAT PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, MAYBE TRAINING OF YOUNG PEOPLE AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IN WORKING IN THE WATERFRONT OR HOW YOU GRAPH POSTED SITES AND GROW THEM AND PUT THEM INTO, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S BEEN BLEACHED AND RESTORE THE AREAS.

AND NUMBER 11, INDUSTRIAL, LOAD THE MATERIALS AND LOAD THE REEF BARS IN THE BARGES. AND NOT ALLOWING TO BE THE HALLMARK PIECE OF THE SITE. WE HAVE EDUCATION, RECREATION, WE HAVE A LITTLE FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, QUITE IN LINE OF PLEASE KEEP THE WATERFRONT DIVERSED AND KEEP IT ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY ENGAGED. AND NEXT SLIDE, A RENDERING WHAT WE CREATE A VEGETATIVE END. IT WOULD HAVE A SEA WALL, A PLACE TO WALK IN THE BEACH, WE CAN HAVE STAND UP PADDLE BOARDING, FOOD TRUCK RALLY. THIS BECOMES ANOTHER GREEN SPACE AND POPULAR SPACE THAT'S LINKED INTO THE NETWORK OF THINGS, THAT YOU ARE ACTIVELY ADVANCING IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND YOUR PARKS AND GREEN WAYS THAT THE COUNTY IS COMBINING AS

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NEXT SLIDE, CORY. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU FULLY PHASED. AS WE MENTIONED, WE THINK INITIALLY, THERE'S 20-25 ACRES OF ADDITIONAL YACHT MRL.

AND IT KIND OF RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

IF YOU WERE TO DO 20-25 ACRES, YOU WILL DO IT SOUTHERN HALF IN CREATING AT NUMBER ONE, THE TRAVEL, IF YOU LIFT THE VESSEL TO THE WATER, SLIDE IT IN DIFFERENT BAYS, WHERE THEY ARE WORKED ON. YOU MAY CREATE SOME COVER BAYS.

WE HAVE SHOWN SOME THINGS IN THE MAP.

THERE'S PLACES IN THE WATER, WHERE YOU WORK ON THE BOATS, WHETHER YOU'RE PREPARING SOMETHING.

AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT IN THE WATER TO DO THE WORK. OVER TIME, THERE'S CERTAINLY ADDITIONAL AREAS TO THE NORTH, TO THE SUCCESSFUL, BE ENGAGED AND USE THE WHOLE L SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD.

THE POTENTIAL, YOU COULD CREATE A SLIP AT NUMBER 5, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION OF YARD YACHTS TO BE PREPARED IN THE SOUTHERN. AND EXPORT ACTIVITIES IN THE TRIANGLE TO THE NORTH. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE.

YOU COULD LEAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE RAIL ESTABLISHED IN THE FEC, NUMBER 6, TO GET BOAT HOLES OR OTHER TYPES OF THINGS, IN AND OUT OF THE SITE. AGAIN, THIS IS PART AND PROPERTY. AS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY DECIDES TO SELL, COLABRATE AND WEIGH IN THE AREAS, THAT THEY THINK MAKES SENSE. AND LANDING AND ZONING AND WHAT THE MASTER PLAN SAYS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS WHAT THE TYPE OF SPACES COULD LOOK LIKE, SORT OF THE RAIL SYSTEMS AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BOAT PARKING LOT. SOME OF WHICH ARE WRAPPED AND WORKED ON AND SOME OF THEM ARE OPEN.

SOME OF THESE, ARE IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND SOME OF THESE ARE IN EUROPE. THERE'S SOME OF THE CITIES THAT IS IN THE CITY OF BARCELONA. THEY CAN COEXIST VERY WELL WITH THE SURROUNDING USES THAT ARE THERE.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED, WITH THE IMPORT, EXPORT. YOU DON'T WANT THIS AGAINST CARGO. WE CAN CREATE SOME OTHER THINGS SO THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY COULD COEXIST WITH OTHERS AS WELL.

IMPORT, EXPORT, AGAIN, HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE A 9-14 ACRE YARD, WITH THE ABILITY TO HAVE BARGES OR SMALL CEDAR SHIPS TO BE LOADED AND BE RELOADED. HAVING AN ACCESS TO CONNECT THAT LOCATION. WE THINK HAVING THE ACTIVITY, IS IN LINE. WE ARE TRYING TO ENGAGE THE DEEP WATER, IN A WAY THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES. IN MUCH LIKE THE YACHT MO.

IT COULD PERHAPS BLEED INTO THE OTHER AS WELL.

WE'RE TRYING TO LINK ALL OF THIS TO THE BROADENING AREAS.

THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN FORT PIERCE.

WE PROPOSED A GREENWAY ALONG NORTH 2ND STREET, CONNECTING TO THE EAST-WEST ROADWAY INTO THE PARK WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE, HARBOR POINT PARK, LINKING TO THE EAST COAST GREENWAY INITIATIVE THAT'S BEING TALKED AS WELL.

PERHAPS EVEN LONG-TERM, THE ABILITY TO CONNECT THE PEDESTRIAN OVERPASS, BACK TO THE LINCOLN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT IS THERE.

SO AS WE ADVANCE, IT FEELS LIKE ONE GREAT SPACE OF DIVERSED PUBLICLY ACCEPTABLE AREAS, IN SOME OF THE WORKING WATER FRONT COMPONENTS AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE, YOU SEE, IS JUST, THE OVERALL PLAN, NOW IN 2D, WITH THE LABELS.

THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE ON WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, ONCE AGAIN, 20-PLUS YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, IN GETTING FROM DIRECTOR TO MANY OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE CENTER OF THE SITE, WITH THE YACHT MRL, TO THE PARK AREA, ALL THE WAY TO THE EXISTING MARINAS, THAT THIS COULD BE A REAL ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFICIARY AND BENEFACTOR TO THE COMMUNITIES.

AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME DOCKING IN THE AREA.

THIS IS WHERE I TURN IT BACK TO YOU AND OTHERS.

THAT THE ONE MAIN THING -- THERE'S SEVERAL.

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MANY OF THE THINGS, WE'RE SUGGESTING AS PART OF THE VISION PLAN, THIS MASTER PLAN COULD ADVANCE AND MOVE FORWARD.

I'LL LET THEM DISCUSS THAT IN MORE DETAILS.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S CLEARLY ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK AND GRANT LINING WORK AND PERMANENT WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WE THINK INITIALLY, BECAUSE THE COUNTY CONTROLS THE PARK.

THE HARBOR POINT BECOMES A GREAT FOCUS ON THAT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE IN 2021, TO REFINE THE CONCEPTS AND GAIN TRACTION IN THE AREA. THE STEWARDSHIP IN GETTING THE OTHER PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD AND TRANSITIONING INTO LATER PROJECTS IN STAGE 2, WILL BE THE INKREPTAL PARTS FOR IT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU, CORY AND CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMES ALONG.

>> THANK YOU, SCOTT, GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I THINK WHAT WE WILL WORK TO IN CONVERSATION AND LEAD WITH, ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS INVESTED IN THE INDIAN RIVER TERMINAL SITE ENTERED INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DIRECTOR SHIPYARDS. I KNOW THE DIRECTOR SHIPYARDS PROVIDED A PROJECT UPDATE AND PROGRESS IN CREATING WORLD CLASS MEGA FACILITY IN THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT POINT IN TIME AND THE PROGRESSION, CREATION OF JOBS AND THAT SYNERGY IN THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE AND AS SCOTT HIGHLIGHTED, THE PUBLIC OWNED THE LAND IN HARBOR PARK, CREATING MARINE ACTIVITIES AND COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE THAT SUPPORT IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REMAINING HOLDINGS OF THE FORT PIERCE, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS TO HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN IF SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED WITH THE POLICYMAKERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, TO INSPIRE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP AND INVESTMENT, TO PROVIDE THE CERTAINTY. ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS IS ZONING AND LAND USE. WE HAVE LESLIE OLSON TUNED IN.

WE HAVE BEEN COLABRATING WITH JENNIFER MEISTER.

I BELIEVE LESLIE WAS GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE COUNTY'S PROPOSALS AND WE WILL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH JENNIFER TO POSSIBLE ROUTES TO IMPLEMENT THAT TYPE OF PROPOSAL.

>> LESLIE? >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. CAN YOU HEAR ME

>> YES. >> GOOD MORNING..

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING, INVITING US OVER TO DISCUSS THIS EXCITING PLAN.

THE GREAT COLABRATION WE HAVE HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY ACROSS OUR GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES AND WITH THE LAND OWNERS AT THE PORT, I THINK WE'RE SEEING IS SOME REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES HERE. AND THE SPECIFIC PIECE THAT CORY AND JENNIFER AND I HAVE BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON IS HOW TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO QUITE GET INTO YET. IN EACH GENERATION OF THE PORT MASTER PLAN, THE RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN ALIGNED, THE FUTURE LAND USE WITH THE ZONING AND ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE VISION OF THE PORT MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN VETTED BY THE COMMUNITY AND GIVEN A STAMP OF APPROVAL BY BOTH THE PORT AUTHORITY, AND THE JUDICIAL AUTHORITY WHICH IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND I THINK THIS TIME AROUND IS THE TIME WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.

WE'RE EXCITED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET IT DONE IN ORDER TO IN INSENTVICE THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AS CORY SAID, HAVE CERTAINTY, THAT THEY CAN PROPOSE INTO SOMETHING, INVEST IN A PROPOSAL THAT WILL RECEIVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT. HOW TO MAKE IT VERY, VERY SIMPLE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO DEVELOP IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PUBLICLY VETTED AND ACCEPTED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE BUT HOW TO ALSO CONTEMPLATE SOME DELYNNATION FROM THAT.

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YOU HAVE TO LOOK HOW TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, REALLY EASY, STREAMLINE, TO DO WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED IN THE PLAN, BUT YOU NEED TO CONTEMPLATE THOSE WAYS, IN WHICH YOU PROPOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WHETHER IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OR VERY DIFFERENT.

YOU WANT AN AVENUE FOR BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.

IN TALKING TOGETHER, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY STAFF HAVE DISCUSSED SOME WAYS TO DO THAT. I PROPOSE, THAT WE SENT TO JENNIFER AFTER SOME CONVERSATIONS, RECOMMENDS THE ADOPTION OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BASED ROUGHLY KIND OF CONCEPTIONALLY ON WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE PORT MASTER PLAN, AND IF YOU ARE DEVELOPING AND SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMITY WITH THAT. PRETTY CLOSE.

NOT XAKLY, WHAT YOU NOT EXACTLY, BUT PRETTY CLOSE, TO WHAT THE MASTER PLAN INVISIONS. WE'RE PROPOSING IT WILL ALLOW OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, BY THE FACT, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO A PUBLIC HEARING. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY HAPPENED.

IF YOU'RE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMITY WITH THE PLAN, WOULD SIMPLY BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL BY THE STAFF AND BUILDING PERMIT. MAKE IT REALLY FAST, REALLY EASY. IF YOU'RE PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMANT, BUT HAVE SOME IDEAS, LIKE YOU WANT TO DO MORE CARGO THAN THE PLAN INVISIONED.

YOU COULD DO THAT, BY AMENDING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CITY COMMISSION. THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC CONVERSATION, WHICH SEEMS TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS LONG CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THE PUBLIC. AND IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT REALLY WASN'T ENVISIONED BY THE PLAN AT ALL, SAY YOU WANTED TO DEVELOP CONDOMINIUMS, MULTI-FAMILY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE RIGHT NOW DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE THAT, AND YOU NEED A NEW ZONING AS WELL. ALL THE IDEAS WOULD BE CONTEMPLATED AND PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE THE CERTAINTY OF KNOWING HOW THEY CAN GO BUY DEVELOPING IN ANY SCENARIO THEY CAN THINK OF. WE WOULD PROVIDE A PATH FORWARD FOR THEM. SO WHERE WE THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPTION AND REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO RESIGNING IT WITH YOU.

THAT'S IT. >> THANKS, MS. OLSON.

>> I WILL GO NEXT, MAYOR HUDSON, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

IN SPEAKING WITH THE PARTNERS IN THE COUNTY, WE HAVE BEGAN CONVERSATIONS. THIS FOLLOWED THE CONVERSATION MEETING, I BELIEVE IN NOVEMBER, WHEN THE COMMISSION IN THE COUNTY LEVEL ADOPTED A CONCEPTIONAL MASTER PLAN.

AT THAT MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED HOW THE FUTURE LAND ZONING ARE NOT CONSISTENT. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FOR SOME TIME. I ACTUALLY NOTICED IT, WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, THE QUESTION, WHAT COULD I DO IN MY PROPERTY AT THE PORT? I COULD EXPLAIN THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES AHEAD. WHAT I HAVE PRESENTED, IS THE FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PORT AND IT'S NOT VERY LEGIBLE.

I DID PROVIDE HANDOUTS FOR EVERYONE.

AND WHAT IS SHOWN, WE HAVE TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AT THE PORT. AND INDUSTRIAL WHICH IS THE GRAY AND MARINE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE RUST-TYPE OF COLOR.

HERE'S THE CORRESPONDING ZONING. AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ARE TWO SHADES OF THE GRAY, MARINE INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE MAJORITY OF IT IS A PINK OR A PURPLISH COLOR, WHICH IS A ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS CALLED PUR, WHICH IS PLANNED, UNIT, REDEVELOPMENT ZONE. THE REMAINING PORTION TO THE NORTHERN IS OUR MARINE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE. THE BULK OF THE PORT IS NOT

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OUR INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH IS THE BULK OF THE PORT, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR PARCELS FOR INDUSTRIAL.

AND THE USE IS ALLOWED, INCLUDE LIKE MANUFACTURING, PROCESSING FACILITIES, STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES, WAREHOUSING AND RESEARCH CORPORATE PARKS AND MIXED USE OFFICE PARKS. OFFICE RETAIL, HAS PROVIDED SERVICE FOR EMPLOYEES AND COMPATIBLE AND SPECIAL USES ARE ALSO PERMITTED. THE MAXIMUM RPR IS 1.5.

THESE ARE THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE, WHICH IS THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE INDUSTRIAL AND LIMITED USES WITH LIMITED EXTERNAL EFFECTS TO THE AREA. THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL IS TO PROVIDE LOCATION FOR PORT ACTIVITIES, MARINE INDUSTRY AND SUPPORT USES. AND THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR MARINE COMMERCIAL, DESIGNATION INTENDED TO PROMOTE MARINE AND INDUSTRIAL USES, WITH FOCUS ON MARINE ESTABLISHMENTS AND OTHER USES, RELATED, TERRORISM ACTIVITIES, RESTAURANTS RETAIL AND ALSO BEING PERMITTED. THIS DESIGNATION, ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL BUT ONLY UP TO 20 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL FLOORING AREA. AND THE INTENDED, TO PROVIDE LOCATIONS OF COMBATIBLE MARINE. THE BULK OF OUR PORT IS A PLAN UNIT REDEVELOPMENT ZONE THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE COMPREHENSIVE, WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AREAS OF THE CITY, WHICH IS NOT OUR PARTY. THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO REEXAMINE WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING WILL BE.

AFTER INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY STAFF, WE FEEL THAT THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR INTENTIONS OF THE PORT, AS MARINE INDUSTRIAL.

AND IT WOULD BE -- IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO HAVE ONE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DECIDED. TO CREATE A ZONING DISTRICT THAT WILL IMPLEMENT OUR LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THAT'S WHAT THE LAND USE IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, LOT COVERAGE, HEIGHT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD FALL ON IT.

IF WE WERE TO GO TO A PLAN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, LET'S JUST CALL IT TODAY, IF WE COULD TODAY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN, REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IT COULD BE A BUBBLE PLAN.

MEANING THE USES DON'T HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE IN THOSE LOCATIONS. THEY ARE FLEXIBLE.

THE USES THAT ARE WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN IS WHAT IS BEING APPROVED WITH THE REZONING. WE'RE DOING THAT SIMILARLY WITH KINGS LANDING AND ALSO WILL ALEX, OUR MIDWAY.

THAT ALLOWS THE FLEXIBILITY, BUT GENERAL UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT HE WITH ALL WANT THERE. THAT WOULD BE THE LOCAL OFFICIALS, THE PUBLIC AND PRIMARILY OUR PRIVATE SECTOR, LAND OWNERS, AS THEY ARE THE PRIMARY OWNERS OF THE LAND.

AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS, HAVE ALREADY BEGUN.

THE COUNTY, THEIR INITIAL STEAK HOLDER MEETINGS, I'M BEGINNING MY OWN, BECAUSE IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN THE SAME PAGE. I HAVE DONE THAT WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE CAN HANDLE THIS, AND NOT DOING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BUT EXPANDING OR MARINE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ZONING THE ENTIRE AREA, WITH THAT ZONING DISTRICT. HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR US TO ALL HAVE ADOPTED A MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD GO WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT. THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A MASTER PLAN ADOPTED WITH THE REZONING SO WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND ALL THE WORK OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS, WITH THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, ACTUALLY GETS IMPLEMENTED.

>> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

>> ARE YOU TELLING ME WE CAN OR WE CANNOT? THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A MASTER PLAN, WHY CAN'T WE ADOPT THIS?

>> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S WHAT OUR INTENTIONS IS TO ADOPT

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>> IT WON'T DISCOURAGE THE COUNTY FROM THE FIVE YEAR PLAN?

>> THAT WOULD BE THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

IF IT STAYS ON-LINE, AS MS. OLSON WAS SAYING, IF THE OWNER WOULD TO DEVELOP PART OF THE PORT AND IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN AND CONSISTENT WITH IT, THE APPROVAL, YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE MASTER PLAN AND THE REZONING, ZONING DISTRICT WOULD COME TO A PUBLIC HEARING. IF WE WERE TO CREATE A PLAN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, WE WOULD HAVE THE MASTER PLAN THAT THE COUNTY AND CONSULTANTS HAVE WORKED ON AS PART OF THE REZONING. AND THEN YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN THAT. LET'S SAY ONE OF THE OWNERS, COUNTY, ANYONE COMES IN FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SITE PLAN AND IT IMPLEMENTS THE POSITION, THEN IT HAS A STREAMLINE, ADMINISTRATIVE

APPROVAL. >> AND THE QUESTION IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAND OWNERS WANT NOW?

>> WE DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, NO.

I CAN'T SAY THAT I KNOW EXACTLY. >> THEY WANT THE SAME THAT WE

WANT. >> WHAT WE HAVE DONE, PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. BUT THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN, AS TO WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, WE'RE NOT AT THE STAGE YET.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE TO ALLOW FOR IT RIGHT NOW THE ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AT LEAST THE BULK OF IT.

>> SO YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR A SPECIAL DISTRICT WITH SPECIAL

ZONING AND LAND USE? >> CORRECT.

>> AND THAT APPLIES, FOR THE CITY OF PORT.

>> IF ANOTHER AREA OF THE CITY, WOULD WANT TO DO AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN MASTER PLAN TIED TO THE DISTRICT. SIMILAR TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR WILLOW LAKES. THAT HAS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT FOR KINGS LANDING. HOWEVER, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE

ZONING DISTRICT. >> MR. BENTON, THERE WAS A REFERENDUM ABOUT HARBOR POINT, WHEN THE COUNTY BOUGHT IT.

AND THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE CITIZENS. DOES THIS PLAN, IN YOUR OPINION, FOLLOW WHAT THE CITIZENS APPROVED?

>> MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, YES.

TO THE GREAT EXTENT, THE PLAN SEEKS RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITH MARINE COMMERCIAL AND MARINE COMMERCIAL PROVIDING THE BASIS TO FUND AND ENHANCEMENTS TO THE AREA.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> THANK YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATIONS. SINCE THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IN THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE IS OWNED PRIVATELY, HAVE WE HEARD FROM THE PRIVATE OWNERS AS FAR AS WHAT OUR FUTURE PLANS ARE AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND REZONE AND HAVE DIFFERENT FUTURE LAND USES AND EVERYTHING ELSE? ARE THEY PRETTY MUCH BUYING INTO ALL OF THIS?

>> I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ANY, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE BELL SISTERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

I KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL AND COUNTY HAS ONE ON ONE COMMUNICATIONS.

I HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THOSE. AND AS I INDICATED TO COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, THE BULK OF THEIR ROLE WOULD BE TO COME IN FOR INDIVIDUAL SITE PLANS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE CREATING THIS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, THAT THE USES WE LAID OUT ARE ONES THEY WANT. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ON A CONCEPTIONAL MASTER PLAN. THIS EXERCISE DID NOT LAY OUT WHAT THE PERMITTED USES BY RIGHT WOULD BE NOR THE CONDITIONAL USES. THAT'S AN EXERCISE THAT WE AS PLANNERS HAVE TO DO BUT HAS TO BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE

PRIVATE LAND OWNERS. >> I WAS ASSUMING THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH ALL OF THIS BECAUSE THIS WOULD HELP THEM IN THEIR FUTURE PLANNING, BUT ASSUMING TO ME, ALL THE TIME ENDS UP GOING THE WRONG WAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND HOW THE CITY INTENDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE PROPOSALS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE FIGHTING THE PRIVATE OWNERS OF THE PORT AREA.

THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE, TOO, AND I'M HAPPY THE MAYOR BROUGHT TO HARBOR POINT. AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, THEY ARE TAKING AWAY ONE OF THEIR SECRET PARKS THEY LIKE TO FISH ON. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT WITH THE

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>> ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.

AS PART, IT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY USE.

THIS MASTER PLAN WOULD BE PART OF THE REZONING.

YOU WOULD HAVE THE LOCATION AND THAT, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THE

MOST LOGICAL PLACE. >> AND I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND, THAT HARBOR POINT IS NOT IN THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS MAKE IT BETTER.

>> AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.

ACTUALLY VERY GOOD. COUPLE OF POINTS AND GOING BACK TO PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU WILL BE INSTIG GATING OR INITIATING CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC LAND OWNERS TO MAKE IT MORE CORRECT. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, SIR. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WAS HELD WITH THE CONSULTANT.

I WAS NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS.

SO WHEN I'M DRAFTING LEGISLATION TO ALLOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M HEARING FROM THEM.

I'M MAKING SURE I'M LISTENING THE RIGHT USES WITH THE ZONING

DISTRICT. >> SO HELP ME, PART OF THE PROCESS, THAT THEY'LL COME BEFORE US AND WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO INTERACT AND ENGAGE WITH THEM AS A PROSPECT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS AND GROUP MEETINGS AND, OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU BEING

PRESENT. >> AND OTHER THING, A TIE IN TO THE LINCOLN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP AND I SEE THERE'S A PROPOSED OF AVENUE MVP EXTENSION, ET CETERA.

PART OF THE CONCERN IS A TIE-IN. HOW WOULD THAT CONNECT THE COMMITTEE, AS WE LOOK TO GET THE INTERMODAL TRANSMISSION LINES, CONNECTIVITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS? COULD YOU HELP ME IN THE MASTER PLAN? I DON'T SEE THAT, I DON'T SEE THE CONNECTIVITY, AVENUE O, TO AVENUE N. IS THIS PART OF THIS?

>> IF I MAY DEFER TO MR. BENTON TO TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL

CONNECTIONS. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, THE PORT HAS LONG EVALUATED MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS, NOT ONLY FOR VEHICLE BUT ALSO PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACTIVITY. AND THE CRA, WHICH IS KNOWN AS RADICAL COSMETICS, INITIALLY INCLUDED A COMPONENT, WHERE THERE'S A VEHICULAR FLY OVER, ACCESS POINT TO THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL DESIGN ENDEAVOR. THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IDENTIFIES THE PROSPECTS OF A PEDESTRIAN-BICYCLE CONNECTION POINT EAST WEST ALONG AVENUE O THAT TIES TO THE CRA'S PLAN TO INCREASE MULTI-MOTOR CAPACITY TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BUT ALSO EAST GREENWAYS AND TRAILS, WHICH IS AN ACTIVE PROGRAM, ALSO KNOWN AS SUN TRAIL, IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FORB MOVING FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT WOULD BE A GAME PLAN TO PROVIDE THAT LENGTH IN THE ALIGNMENT OF AVENUE O TO ALLOW FOLKS GREATER AND DIRECT ACCESS TO HARBOR POINT PARK IN THE FUTURE.

OBVIOUSLY COLAB RATING WITH FOD, AND HOW IT WORKS WITH U.S.

HIGHWAY 1 AND THE OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY.

WE KNOW THE DAMAGE FROM THE DIXIE HIGHWAY BRIDGE IN PAST STORMS, THAT'S A WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT THE LINK IN THE FUTURE, SAFETY FOR VEHICLE ACCESS AND ALSO ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE AREA.

WE ALSO HAVE THE NORTH CAUSEWAY BRIDGE RECONSTRUCTION.

TRANSPORTATION IN THE AREA WILL MORPH AND HOW WE EXPECT THESE AREAS LIKE HARBOR POINT PARK TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. ONE OTHER COMMENT, YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE ECONOMIC EMPLOYMENT OF THE MASTER DESIGN.

ARE THERE ANY FORECAST AND POTENTIAL NUMBERS, THAT YOU GUYS KIND OF FORECAST AND LOOKED AT OTHER PLANNED COMMUNITIES,

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>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IN 2002, ST. LUCIE COUNTY COMMISSION, ECONOMIC IMPACT REPORT, AS IT RELATES TO YACHT AND MLR ACTIVITIES, OUR TEAM HAS LOOKED AT OTHER FACILITIES AND WORKING WATER FRONTS TO CONSIDER WHAT THE JOB GROWTH AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY WITH THE SHARING OPPORTUNITIES AND INDUSTRIES AND DIRECTOR SHIPYARDS WITH THEIR PROPOSAL IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY, IN THE TERMINAL, THEY IDENTIFIED WHAT THEIR DIRECT ECONOMIC IMPACTS AND JOB GROWTH WOULD BE AND THEIR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF INDUSTRIES.

OUR CONSULTANTS ARE, WOULDING ON COST ANALYSIS ON WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF IT WOULD BE TO THE IMPROVEMENT TO HARBOR POINT AND EAST WHARF AREAS.

AND OVER IT, WE ARE LOOKING WHAT THE CONTRIBUTIONS WOULD BE.

IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN LOOKED AT AND SOUGHT TO BE A SIGNIFICANT

IMPACT. >> IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT, IT'S

FORTH COMING. >> COMING SOON.

>> THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE BEGIN TO SIGNAL THAT TO THE COMMUNITY; RIGHT? AND HOW DO WE BEGIN TO GET THE WORKFORCE PREPARE FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREAS, AS A MASTER PLAN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WHEN IT MOVES FORWARD.

I'M CURIOUS OF THAT, AS THE NUMBERS LIE, AS DIRECT IMPACT TO

THE COMMUNITY. >> THERE'S BEEN ATTENTION AND WE

EXPECT IT TO BE SIGNIFICANT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> APPRECIATE IT. I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION TODAY AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND COUNTY STAFF AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION FOR MANY YEARS. I LIKE THIS PLAN.

OUT OF ALL THE PLANS I'VE SEEN AND OPTION OVER THE YEARS, I APPRECIATE WHERE WE'RE HEADING. A FEW THINGS AND I'M IN FAVOR AND I WAS WRITING A LOT OF NOTES, AS YOU KNOW I ALWAYS DO.

I BELIEVE IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MASTER PLAN CONCEPT AND REZONING OR ACCEPTING THE MASTER PLAN AND REZONING IS A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT EXPANDING THE MARINE ZONING DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY. I HAD BEEN TALKING TO STAFF SO THAT YOU ARE ALL AWARE ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS AND HOW WE CAN IT TAILOR OUR EXISTING PROCESSES AND ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN. I BELIEVE ONCE YOU ADOPT A MASTER PLAN, THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT, SO WE CAN -- IT'S NOT A SHORT COMING OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS. HOWEVER, IT'S A PLANNED PROCESS. I APPRECIATE THE FACT, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME AND THE STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT, DID TOUCH ON IT, AS PRESERVING THE AMENITIES FOR THE RIVER.

WHETHER IT'S HARBOR POINT PARK, AND ALLOWING THE RIVER WATERFRONT TO BE PRESENT, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

I'M GLAD TO SEE, THAT'S INCORPORATED IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, ALONG WITH THE QUESTION, YOU HAD HAD MAYOR WITH THE REFERENDUM AND WHAT THE VOTERS WERE LOOKING FOR THE PARK. IT SOUNDS LIKE CORY SAID, OR MR. BENTON SAID, THAT THE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE REFERENDUM TALKED ABOUT. ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, BOAT RAMPS. THAT'S WHERE I TIE TO COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON, AND HOW WE CONNECT TO THE WESTERN PART OF THE CITY, TO THE PORT AREA. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THE PROCESS. WE HAVE THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS AND I SEE IT ALL HAPPENING AND COMING TOGETHER WITH THE SPECIFIC PARK TYING IN THE NORTH SECOND SESSION.

AND IT'S COMMISSION C. JOHNSON, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ALREADY, AT SOME POINT WHILE BACK, WE REZONED IN AVENUE S1.

I THINK WE SWICHED IT TO BE REZONING.

AND OF COURSE TO THE WEST OF THAT, IS THE COUNTY'S PARK

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WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW WE CONNECT THIS FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS, I THINK, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING AND ENJOYING THE PORT WATERFRONT AND TO COME BACK TO THE PARKLANDS AND CONNECTING SOUTH WITH THE GREENWAY AND TRAIL. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND OUR STAFF WHO ARE LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS AND PUTTING THIS INTO PLAY. OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PLANNING EFFORT AND MOVING IT FORWARD AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO TIE THE NORTH TO SOUTH OR SOUTH TO NORTH, WHICH EVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT. BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE COMPONENT, AS WE DO IN OUR RESEARCH IN THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF AREA. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSALS ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WITH FISHERMAN'S WHARF PARK AND HOW IT'S GOING TO LIVE AND BREATH WITH THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD PACE HERE AND A GOOD MAP HOW TO GET THERE AND HOW TO TIE ALL THESE AMENITIES IN FROM TAILOR CREEK MARINA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.

AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT.

I AGREE WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE MASTER PLAN AND REZONING, AND TAKING TO THAT ROUTE, IF WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO MENTION I WAS ON THE PORT ADVISORY BOARD FOR MANY YEARS. NOW COMMISSIONER PERONA IS ON THAT. WE MET MONTHLY AND WE CAME UP WITH A MISSION STATEMENT AND WE WERE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE PORT MASTER PLAN WHEN I LEFT THE COMMITTEE AND COMMISSIONER PERONA TOOK OVER. THE PROPERTY OWNERS USED TO COME TO THE MEETING. WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING, WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PROPOSE SOMETHING, THEY DIDN'T COME TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, LIKE MANY OTHERS, THIS PROPERTY, I WANT TO DO X, SO COULD YOU REZONE IT SO I COULD DO THOSE CHANGES. THAT COULD BE DONE ALL ALONG,

RIGHT? >> MADAM, YES.

>> AND PERHAPS IT'S NOT AN OBSTACLE.

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, TO HAVE IT EASIER FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DEVELOP IT WE KIND OF SEE IT TO BE DEVELOPED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE RETAINS SOME KIND OF EXERCISE OF ITS OWN AUTHORITY, THE COUNTY'S OWN AUTHORITY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE WILL HAVE SOME SAY SO IN WHAT GOES THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM MAYOR, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HANDLING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO WHERE WE, THE CITY STAFF AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY WILL BE DEVELOPING REGULATIONS THAT WILL IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN, BUT GIVEN THE FACT, THAT A GOOD MAJORITY OF THE LAND IS NOT UNDER PUBLIC OWNERSHIP, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING, I WON'T BE DOWN ZONING THEIR PROPERTY, RATHER UPZONING.

AND USES THEY WANT TO SEE THERE, ARE RIGHT NOW ARE NOT THERE.

>> THEY COULD HAVE COME IN AND ASKED FOR IT.

>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A ZONING DISTRICT, MAPS MARINE OR MARINE INDUSTRIAL. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING, OUT OF ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT THE COUNTY AND CONSULTANT HAVE DONE. I KNOW WE'RE IN CONVERSATION WITH PRIVATE LAND OWNERS THROUGH THE PROCESS, JUST NOT COLLECTIVELY AND I WAS NOT PART OF ALL THOSE.

NOW I'M GOING TO TAKE A LEAD IN DRAFTING THE REGULATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE MEETINGS WITH THE LAND OWNERS.

>> WE WANT TO BE FRIENDLY WITH THE PROPOSAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIVERS DIVERSIFICATION.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAINTAIN THE COMMISSION.

AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FROM NOW ON, YOU ARE GOING TO DEVELOP A SUGGESTION DISTRICT, WITH WHAT YOU THINK WHAT YOU THINK ACHIEFS

THAT VISION; IS THAT CORRECT >> MADAM --

>> BUT WE WILL HAVE A PARTICULAR OR SAY IN THE PROJECT?

>> FOR INSTANCE. WHAT WILL BE THE SETBACKS.

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THAT'S NOT UNDER OUR CONTROL. THE CITY WILL TAKE OVER BECAUSE

WE'RE THE REGULATORY AGENCY. >> ALSO, THE IMPORT-EXPORT PROJECT OR AREA, PHASE, WHATEVER, IS THAT A NICE WORD

FOR CARGO? >> I BELIEVE IT'S MORE OF TRADE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE DEFINE IT SPECIFICALLY.

>> WE CAN -- THE REASON I'M ASKING, FOR MANY PEOPLE, OR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, THAT WORD IS UNACCEPTABLE IN CONJUNCTION TO THE PORT.

AND CARGO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ACCEPTABLE.

THAT'S A LIGHT USE OF SHIPPING. I BELIEVE.

IMPORT-EXPORT, IT WOULD NOT BE HEAVY SHIPPING.

IT WOULD BE A LIGHT KIND OF TRADE SHIPPING.

IS THAT -- AM I THINKING THAT'S THE RIGHT INTERPRETATION.

>> IT'S NOT TO HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL, WITH A MIX OF USES THAT ARE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN INVISIONED FOR THE AREA.

>> THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, BEFORE I FORGET IT, MR. BENTON MENTIONED THIS PORT IS 100-YEAR-OLD.

THE MAJOR FIGURE IN MAKING SURE WE HAVE AN INLET AND A PORT, IS EDWIN BENNY. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MAKE SURE, IN SOME WAY, WE HONOR EDWIN BENNY FOR THE HUGE CONTRIBUTION TO OUR -- BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, HE'S THE INVENTOR OF THE CRAYOLA. HE WAS FROM CONNECTICUT, BUT HE TOOK A BIG INTEREST IN FORT PIERCE.

HE SAVED THE BANK DURING THE DEPRESSION AND DUG THE PORT AND FINANCED IT. HE CREATED THE SEA SCOUTS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THE OTHER THINGS. THE CONTRIBUTION IS THE INLET AND FORT PIERCE. I WANT TO IN SOME WAY HONOR HIM.

I BRING THIS BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER OUR HISTORY. IT'S 100 YEARS, THIS PORT HAS EXISTED BUT THERE'S ONLY 15 PORTS IN FLORIDA.

OURS WAS THE ONLY UNDEVELOPED PORT.

IT TAKES FORT PIERCE 45 YEARS TO FIGURE IT OUT BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 57D ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS MENTIONED, TO KEEP TRACK ON THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SOMETIMES IT GOES WITH CARGO.

WE ENVISIONED THIS AS BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT, AS A LOCAL ENTITY OR WE'RE DIPPING IN THE STATE'S FUNDING.

BY DOING SO, WE MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER SOME OF THE USES.

LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MONEY AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US. THAT MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I'M NOT SAYING, WE WILL BE A CARGO PORT HERE, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME SMALL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE US ELIGIBLE FOR SOME SERIOUS FUNDING.

THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN -- >> THAT COMES THROUGH FLORIDA

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. >> WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER PERONA.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY BE SOMETHING, A CONDITIONAL USE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE PROPOSEDED, SOMEONE IN THE PORT, BOUNDARY AREA, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VOTE FROM YOU ALL. AS A CONDITIONAL USE SO YOU

WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT >> YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT FORWARD. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PAST COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER FOR ME. WHEN I TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, IF WE CAN FIND USES THAT ARE DISTINCTIVE TO THE

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I THINK IT COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION, IT WARRANTS SOME BIGGER CONVERSATION SO OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMFORTABLE ON WHAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD AND BEING APPROVED.

THE OTHER CONCEPT, NOT US HAVING TO GO THROUGH OR DEVELOPER GOING THROUGH A PROCESS FOR LET'S SAY THE HARBOR POINT PARK AREA.

I'M LOOKING AT THE GENERAL MAP IN THE DRAFT'S MASTER PLAN.

IF IT'S CONSISTENT WE'RE ENVISIONING, THERE'S NO WAY TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD, WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBERS TO DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, MADAM MAYOR, IS THAT OKAY? I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO SEE THE APPLICATIONS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE

>> I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WANTED CLARIFICATION, THAT WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME SAY AT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE PORT. THAT'S THE END.

SO MAYBE THE SAY IS RIGHT UP FRONT, WHEN WHAT OUR PLANNING STAFF PRESENTS TO US, YOU KNOW, THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO WEIGH ON. I DON'T THINK YOU AND I ARE SAYING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AT A

ALL. >> IT'S NOT WHAT THAT WE NEED A VOTE. I WANTED TO SAY IN CONCEPT, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS.

JUST TO CONTINUE TO MOVE AND PUSHING THE INITIATIVE FORWARD INSTEAD OF WAITING ANOTHER 40-50, 100 YEARS, TO PAY --

>> I WON'T BE AROUND. MAYBE I WILL SEE YOU.

COMMISSIONER -- WERE YOU THROUGH, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THAT, WE ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PORT. WE'RE THE FISHERMAN WHARF;

RIGHT?? >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, FISHERMAN'S WHARF BOUNDARIES IS OUTSIDE OF THE PORT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE COMING IN DISCUSSION FOR A SHORT

TIME. >> AND FISHERMAN WHARF?

>> IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE BOUNDARIES.

>> I'LL BE LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER LESLIE FOR A FEW YEARS. SHE CAME AND DID A GREAT PRESENTATION TO US ABOUT THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF.

IF IT'S OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES, WHY ARE WE NOT TRYING TO PUT IT

IN THE BOUNDARIES? >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, ANYTHING THAT'S CONSIDERED IN THE PORT, IN CORRELATION WITH FISHERMAN'S WHARF, COMMISSIONING, HOW IT INTERACTS. FISHERMAN'S WHARF, FOR COMMISSIONER VENUE, THAT ALLOWS TRANSITION, FROM DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE TO THE WORKING WATERFRONT AT FORT PIERCE.

GENERALLY, IT'S WITHIN THE ACTING AREA.

>> AND THE VOTE IS SIMPLY YES. >> AND I THOUGHT, BUT GET SOMETHING FROM OUT OF TOWN, LEARNING THE HARD WAY.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE CARGO.

I THOUGHT WHEN WE REVISITED THE PORT, THE CARGO WASN'T ONE.

IT WAS RESIDENTIAL, RECREATION OR PRIVATE-ONLY, I THINK.

AND PERONA YOU'VE BEEN HERE. >> OVER THE YEARS, IT'S KIND OF MORPHED INTO. AND IT INCLUDED THE CARGO.

THE CARGO IS FIRING ME BECAUSE WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THE PORT TO BECOME IN FRUITION, I'M FINE.

MY QUESTION WAS WITH THE DEBT, THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERING DOING

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ANYTHING IN THE INLET. >> COMMISSIONER, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT WOULD BE HISTORIC DRUDGING.

IT'S THE AVERAGE GAP THAT'S BEEN MAINTAINED BUT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT EVALUATION, INCREASING THE DEPTH WOULD BE --

>> NOBODY IS ADVOCATING FOR IT TO GO DEEPER?

>> I THINK WE HAD A NO-NO FROM THE CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE DEATH OF THAT -- IT'S GOOD FOR THE MEGA YACHTS AND CARGO.

ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY HAVE TO DO IT OUTSIDE OF THE

JETTY; RIGHT? OUTSIDE THE INLET? >> THERE'S A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE DEPTH IN CONSIDERATION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EROSION CONTROL AND SAND MIGRATION FROM SOUTH JETTY TO NORTH JETTY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TO HAVE BEEN EXACERBATED WITH A GREATER CHANNEL DEPTHS OF THE INLET.

THERE'S MUCH AT PLAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. BENTON, ONE OTHER THING, TOO, NUMBER 11, IS THAT THE PUBLIC MARINA AT HARBOR POINT. AND I'M NOT A BOATER, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT'S NOT A POINT FOR A MARINA

>> DURING THE DRAFTING OF THE PORT MASTER PLAN, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT FOCUS OF CONVERSATION, AS IT RELATE TO WAVE ATENATION. IT'S IN CHANNEL, AND ANY SENSITIVE AREAS OFF HARBOR POINT PARK.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE STUDIED CLOSER.

AND ALONGSIDE ARMY FEVE. AS WE SAW WITH THE 2004 HURRICANES, CITY MARINA, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT MARINE FLA.

AND POSSIBLY COVE, NEW PRIVATE MARINA.

IT'S VERY WELL PROTECTED, WHERE IT'S BEEN LOCATED.

WE HAVE OBSERVED WITH THE EXPANSION ON THE DOCKSIDE, THEY HAVE ADDED VESSELS. YOU THINK OBSERVING THEIR SUCCESS AND ALSO STUDYING THIS COMPONENT A LITTLE CLOSER WOULD BE OF GREAT VALUE. IN LOOKING AT TAILOR CREEK MARINA AND PROVIDING, AS IT RELATES TO A PUBLIC BOAT RAMP, WHICH IS IN SIGNIFICANT DEMAND, DRIED OUT STORAGE, WE SEEN THE MARKETPLACE, HAS HAD GROWING DEMAND.

ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WET SLIPS TO EXPAND OUR MARINE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC LOOKED TO, TO HAVE INTEGRATED, IS THAT SOMETHING WILL BE EVALUATED

MOVING FORWARD. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? ANYTHING ELSE? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM US TODAY, MS. HOFMEISTER?

>> I AM. >> WHAT I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS A GENERAL CONSENSUS, WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IS AGREEABLE WITH SOME TWEAKING HERE AND THERE, WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS

TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT? >> YES, MADAM MAYOR, IF I COULD GO TO THE INDUSTRIAL DISTINCT WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE

CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN. >> AND MAYOR MIMS.

>> I BELIEVE YOU HAVE GIVEN FEEDBACK TO COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR.

I BELIEVE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANNED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ON THE INITIATIVE TO ALIGN OUR FUTURE LAND USE AS WELL AS OUR ZONING. AT THIS POINT, THE COUNTY CAN GO BACK TO FINALIZE THE PROCESS FORTHE ADOPTION OF THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE MASTER PLAN AND OUR OWN STAFF WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH

THE P.I.D. INITIATIVE. >> EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT?

>> MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU OKAY? >> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> WE THANK ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO A PARTNERSHIP AND GOOD THINGS TO COME FOR ST.

LUCIE COUNTY AND THE REGION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MS. OLSON.

>> YES NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE

[b. Presentation by Michael Broderick, Parking Committee Chair, regarding the committee's recommendation to address parking surrounding the St. Lucie County Courthouse.]

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>> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE OUR SPECIAL PROJECT, MS. MOORE WELLS.

AND MICHAEL BROADBRODERICK >> FRONT PAGE.

>> AND I LIKE IT. WE HAVE NEW EMPLOYEE.

>> YOU HAVE TO SPEED IT UP. HE'S ON EVERY COMMITTEE WE HAVE.

>> HE'S INTERESTED IN EVERY COMMITTEE WE HAVE.

>> FOLLOW-UP TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

THIS TIME, I WILL ALLOW MR. BRODERICK TO TAKE IT AWAY.

>> THAT'S KIND OF A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.

>> SO SEXY AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING RIGHT?

>> PARKING AND VACATION RENTALS. >> YOU HAVE ALL THE TROUBLE

SPOTS >> APPARENTLY, EXACTLY.

>> INITIALLY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

WE WERE BEING LOOING FOR SOME CLARIFICATIONS TO BRING BACK TO ALL, BEFORE WE FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.

IT IS PERTAINING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON GOING DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING IN FACILITY.

IF YOU RECALL, THE COMMISSION HAD APPROVED PARKING ON SOME 2ND AT THE NORTH OR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S NOW IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR.

THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED. THIS PARKING IS A CONCENTRATED EFFORT IN THE EAST SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE FACILITY.

AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE 11 PARKING SPOTS SPECIFICALLY ADJACENT TO THE COURTHOUSE FACILITY. THEY WANT TO UTILIZE THE PARKING SPOTS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE STAFF.

THIS IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.

THIS IS FOR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT VEHICLES AND ALSO PERSONAL VEHICLES. AND HOW THIS IS SUBSEQUENTLY CONTROLLED. AND THIS WAS ADDRESSED IN THE LAST MEETING. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS BEING LOOING TO ISSUE PLAQUERED. PLAQUERED THAT'S DESIGN IN NATURE, APPROVED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, FOR USE FOR ENFORCEMENT. THEY WILL ISSUE UP TO 20 PLAQUERED FOR 11 PARKING SPACES AND THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO THE CITY CODE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THEY HAVE THEIR VEHICLES SECURED.

AND THE PARKING COMMITTEE WAS LISTENING INTENTLY WHEN THEY WERE DISCUSSING THE SECURITY CONCERNS.

THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS UNANIMOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THE PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION. THE HOURS OF REPUTATION FOR THE SHERIFF PARKING LOT PARKING WOULD BE 7:00 A.M. TO 7:00 P.M., AND DESIGNATED IN THE DESIGNATED AREA SOLELY.

THE PARKING WOULD BE IN THE ACTUAL SIGNAGE ITSELF.

THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION WITH THE COMMITTEE AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE US ASKING I BELIEVE IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.

THAT MEETING GOT CANCELLED. IF REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED.

IT WAS THE QUALIFICATION IN THAT ASPECT OF IT.

>> WE DID TALK ABOUT THE WEST SIDE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WEST SIDE ANYMORE?

>> THE WEST SIDE HAS BEEN DEALT WITH.

>> 20 ARE GOING, 20 PLAQUERED ARE GOING TO BE ISSUED BY THE

SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? >> CORRECT.

>> ARE THEY GOING TO BE NUMBERED?

>> IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM. WHERE IT WAS LAST OFF LAST WEEK, WE DON'T HAVE DESIGNATION TO THE PLAQUERED.

THAT'S SUBSEQUENT TO APPROVING THAT SO WE CAN SPEED UP THE

PROCESS. >> IS IT STILL 7:00 TO 5:30?

>> 7:00 TO 5:30. >> THAT'S NOT COURT HOURS.

THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING BEFORE AND THEY MUST BE DOING

SOMETHING AFTER? >> THEY HAVE THEIR STAFFING TRANS IGGING IN AND OUT. THEY HAVE THE UNIFORM COMING IN TO GET PROMPT THROUGH THE DAY.

WHILE IT'S IN THE STAFFING HOURS THEY OFFER.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WEEKENDS AND AFTER THE 5:30 P.M. TIME LINE, THE PARKING LOT TURNED BACK TO PARKING, ANYONE'S USE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I KNOW DOWNTOWN COULD GET A LITTLE BIT BUSY. WE DID KEEP THAT, ONLY WITH THE BUSINESS HOURS, WOULD THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVITY OF USE.

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>> ANY OTHER COMMENT, COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> WE HEARD THE NEED FOR OPERATION IS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE WANTED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT THE BEST WAY WE POSSIBLY COULD. WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT ARE RARE AND TREASURES IN THE PARKING VISION. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ONLY PARKING IN SHERIFF VEHICLES BUT PERSONAL VEHICLES. AND WE WANTED SOME CONTROL ON THAT. THAT'S THE BIG MESSAGE.

THAT'S WHERE WE NEGOTIATE IT TO THE POINT, WHERE THEY AGREED TO MAKE XMENT AN OF PLAQUERED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE VISIBLE FOR FOLKS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS REACHED OUT TO THE PARKING DMITY TO MAKE SURE WE ACCOMMODATED WHATEVER WE CAN DO FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THE LAST THING WE WANT THEM TO SAY, WE CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WON'T ALLOW US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SAFE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE CONVENIENT AND MAKE SURE ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE CAN'T BE ACCOMMODATED.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, MICHAEL, WE GAVE THEM PRETTY MUCH WHAT

THEY WANTED. >> IN FACT, THE PARKING COMMITTEE LEVERAGES THE PERMISSION TO THE COUNTY, KICK IN AS WELL. THEY ARE DESIGNATING IN THE PARKING GARAGE. WE HAVE THE ISSUE TO THE TABLE.

WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS WE CAN PUT OUT THERE.

IT WAS A JOINT EFFORT FROM THE COUNTY FROM THE COURTHOUSE PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY PEOPLE, CITY ET CETERA.

IT WAS A VERY INTER ACTIVE GROUP AND I THINK WE HAD EVERYBODY THERE BHO WAS INVESTED IN THE MATTER TO HAVE AN INPUT AND BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. IF YOU HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, I WOULD SAY, WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR

EVERYBODY. >> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON AND JAY JOHNSON. WE FIGURED JOHNSON AND JOHNEN SO. QUICK QUESTION, 7:00 TO 5:30.

DURING THOSE PERIODS OF TIME, IF SOMEONE IS PARKED ILLEGALLY,

THERE WOULD BE A CODE. >> I WOULD DEFER TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS. MY SUGGESTING, WHATEVER NONCOMPLIANCE, IS GOING TO BE IDENTICAL TO THE NONCOMPLIANCE DOWNTOWN. SO PARKING TICKETS COULD BE ADMINISTERED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.

>> THIS IS NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND NOT FORT PIERCE POLICE.

>> IT COULD BE BOTH. >> OH, OKAY.

>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW EGREGIOUS THE SITUATION.

I GUESS IT'S SIMILAR IN FORMAT. >> I GUESS, WE WILL PUT PLAQUERED UP, THERE NEED TO BE SOME SORT OF ENFORCEMENT.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN, AND HIGHWAY DO WE SIGNAL THAT TO THE PUBLIC.

EVERYBODY HAS FAIR WARNING, FROM 7:00 TO 5:30, IT'S DISSEG NATED.

>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION HAS BEEN DISCUSSING. I AM AWARE, THAT THERE'S THINGS IN THE WORKS TO THAT. AND YES, THIS IS THE SAME TYPE

OF COMPLIANCE PROGRAM. >> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON?

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUPLE OF COMMENTS THIS BEING FULLY INTUNED BUT NOT MEETING WITH THE PARKING COMMITTEE AND NOT PARTICIPATING TO THE DISCUSSION WHAT MY COUNTY HATTED ON. I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PARKING FOR A LONG TIME. AND I DID HEAR THAT SOME SPACES WERE RESERVED IN THE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE COURTHOUSE, THAT'S OWNED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I WILL MAKE MY COMMENTS FIRST ON THE 11TH SPACES.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER. I WOULD LIKE THE PROCESS TO BE TEMPORARY, AS I LOOK AT IT. IT COULD BE A YEAR OR LONGER.

WITH THE OPTION, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO REMOVE THIS AND MAYBE MAKE IT MORE DYNAMIC. I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PARKING FACILITY, JUST TO THE EAST, WHICH IS EAST OF THE CHURCH.

AND ACTUALLY UP WITH ROW OF THE PARKING AREA IS 12 SPACES.

I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IN THE BLOCK OF MY MIND, WE LOOK AT THE

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WE HAVE 20 PLAQUERED, THAT WILL BE ISSUED.

WILL THE CITY BE GIVEN A LIST OF NAMES AND EMPLOYEES THAT WORK DRECKLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PLAQUERED ARE BEING ISSUED FOR? WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE 20?

IS 20 THE MAGIC NUMBER? >> THE SUGGESTION WAS WITH THE ELIMINATION, THEY WILL ISSUE 20 PLAQUERED.

THERE'S A REQUEST, NADIA, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, AND SO YOU HAVE 20 VEHICLEDS, 11 PLAQUERED.

THE CITY WOULD BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.

>> AND I BRING UP -- I BRING UP THE SPACES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE BOSTON HOUSE IS BEING WORKED ON.

I SEE SOME -- WE'RE RECEIVING THE PACE, AND THAT BOTHERED ME A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS FOR THE PARCEL. THE PARKING SPACES IS RIGHT IN

FRONT OF THE PARKING HOUSE >> THE DISPLAY THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, IS SLIGHTLY INACCURATE.

THE YELLOW AREAS IS A LITTLE MORE COMPRESSED.

THE BOSTON HOUSE RENOVATION PROJECT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE PARKING COMMITTEE LEVEL. I BROUGHT UP THE FACT, RENOVATIONS ARE UNDER WAY. WE EXPECTED SOME USE IN THE AREA. AND WE WANTED TO KEEP THE SPOTS SPECIFICALLY IN FRONT OF THE BOSTON HOUSE AVAILABLE FOR TRANS

YENT PARKING >>

>> OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION OF THE I DON'T KNOW-LINE SYSTEM. IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPRESSED

THAN THAT? >> OKAY. THAT HELPS.

>> COMMISSIONER, IT ENDS AT THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, THE ALLEY WAY THAT'S SOIT OF THE ST. LUCIE COURTHOUSE.

>> YES, THAT'S WHERE THE PARKING SPACING IS IN.

THAT'S THE AREA. >> OKAY. .

>> THAT COMPROMISES THE 11 IN TOTALITY, IN THE AVENUE.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO THIS IS GOING TO BE CLEARLY MARKED. SO IF I SEE A VACANT SPACE AND I PULL IN THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES THOSE SPACES ARE VA CAPT DURING THE HOURS; RIGHT? THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME WAY THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PARK THERE.

>> CLEAR SIGNS THAT SAY THEY ARE RESERVES 7:00 TO 5:30.

WE ASK TO HAVE A COPY OR DRAFT, TO MAKE SURE WE SEE THE.

HE'S PRETTY DIALLED INTO THE PACIFICS.

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNEN SO, YES.

>> I KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO DELINEATE. FOLKS, AND I'M PROBABLY, NOT READING. IF THERE'S A SIGNAGE, DIFFERENT COLORED STRIPING, MAYBE A MARK ON THE CURVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD HELP, PROBABLY. IF IT'S TOO COST PROHIBITTIVE, OF COURSE, OMIT THAT BUT IT'S JUST ANOTHER IDEA.

>> WHAT I'M THINKING, IT'S ALWAYS A BAD EXPERIENCE, WHEN SOMEONE VISITING US OR VISITING DOWNTOWN, IT'S A BAD EXPERIENCE.

IT LEAVES OPPOSED TO, EVERYBODY LEARN THE HARD WAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO TRY TO DO THAT AS BEST AS

POSSIBLE. >> STRICTLY ENFORCED BY THE

SHERIFF. >> YEAH, BY THE SHERIFF.

>> AND THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PARKING COMMITTEE, DEALT ARE, WAS REGARDS TO LOADING ZONES.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE LOADING ZONES DOWNTOWN.

IT WAS DETERMINED THAT AT LEAST FROM THE PAST MEETING, THAT THE

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TODAY'S AGENDA, WE WERE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTING AND RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COMMISSION, TO AT LEAST LABEL OUR LOADING ZONES IN AN EIN FORM MATTER AND SO WE THOUGHT THAT FROM A UNIVERSITY. MR. RIOS WAS AT THE PARKING COMMITTEE HEARING. AND WE ASKED HIM TO HUTTED MORE SIGNAGE IF THEY APPROVED IT. IT WOULD INCLUDE A NO PARKING ICON, IDENTIFYING AS A LOADING ZONE.

AND TIMES, 7:00 A.M., AS A QUESTION MARK, AS DURATION DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY. AND TERMINATING AT 5:00 P.M. AND CITING THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, ORDINANCE 34-35. WE WANT TO REMOVE THE EXISTIG SIGNAGE AND HAVE THE NEW SIGNAGE INST

INSTALLED. >> OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

>> FAIRLY. >> KIND OF CLEANING THINGS.

>> BEING CONSISTENT AND BEING RIGHT, EXACTLY.

>> AND BEING LOOING TO CREATE, ONCE AGAIN, LOADING ZONES ARE MEANT TO BE USED FOR LOADING. I THINK IT'S FAIRLY SELF-DISCRYPTTIVE. HOWEVER, I KNOW WE KNOW, WHEN WE SEE TRUCK PARKED IN THE ORANGE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S

CLEARLY DESIGNATED. >> THESE ARE GOOD PROBLEMS, PARKING COMMITTEES OUT THERE. THERE'S SO MANY COMPETING USES TO DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE AND FOLKS WANT TO BE HERE AND BE AS CONVENIENT AS WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE PARKING STUDY.

WHATEVER WE DO TODAY, MAY CHANGE TOMORROW.

WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE WALKER ASSOCIATES WHO CAME UP WITH THE STUDY.

AND KNOW THAT THESE SOLUTIONS ARE HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PROCESS NOT ONLY FOR THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND EVERYBODY TO GET A HANDLE WITH THAT.

AND I WAS AMAZED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PARKING STUDY AND SAW THERE'S 497 ON-STREET PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

I WOULD GUESS LESS THAN HALF OF THAT.

WE HAVE A BIG CULTURE CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON.

WE TALKED ABOUT LOADING ZONES AND FOLKS THINK THEY OWN THE LOADING ZONES. THIS IS A DYNAMIC GROUP.

IT WILL GET A LOT OF SUPPORT BY THE COMMISSION AND COMMUNITY TO MOVE THE NEEDLE FORWARD. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I CAN'T WAIT BEFORE WE CAN GET DEEPLY INTO THE PARKING STUDY.

>> A COMMENT ON THAT, WE HAVE AB OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE WALKER PARKING STUDY FOLKS, VIA CALL-IN. IT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION. I LOOK FORWARD FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION AS WELL.

OUR NEXT MEETING, IS PRIOR TO THE CONFERENCE MEETING IN JANUARY. WE HOPE TO COME OUT OF THE MEETING, KEEPING THIS MOVING QUICKLY TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THE HANDS OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE. IT WAS A TWO HOUR MEETING WITH THE PARKING COMMITTEE. IT WAS A VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING. AS FAR AS DIGESTING SOME OF THE INFORMATION, I KNOW FOR YOUR BEDTIME READING, PULL OUT THE

PARKING READING. >> COMING OUT WITH SOLID PROPOSALS. WE DON'T WANT ANY MOSS GROWING IN THE REPORT. WE WANT TO GET IT MOVING.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> THE QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BIG TRUCKS AND SO FORTH AS COMING TO MAKE DELIVERIES DOWNTOWN. WHEN THEY PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GOING IN AND DISCUSSED IT, I'M DISGUSTED WITH THE WAY THAT THEY TREAT THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME ELDERLY LADIES TRYING TO MANEUVER DOWNTOWN. WHEN THEY SEE A BIG TRUCK, THEY JUST FREEZE UP. EVEN IN THE HIGHWAY, I HAVE TO

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THEY JUST AND IN THE LUNCH HOUR, THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE I'M HARDLY DOWNTOWN OTHER THAN GOING INTO THE RESTAURANTS.

AND I SEE IT. BLATANTLY, THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY DON'T CARE HOW LONG THEY ARE THERE EITHER.

>> AND THAT'S EVERYBODY'S DISCUSSION.

AND IF THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A LOADING ZONE, I BELIEVE THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM. I BELIEVE THAT'S A LIFE SAFETY.

>> AND GIVING COMPANIES A BAD TASTE.

CONTACT THE COMPANIES AND LET THEM KNOW.

THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. FEW PITCHES COULD HELP.

>> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON AND COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON.

>> I LOOK FORWARD TO READING THE PLANNED PAPERWORK.

ACCEPTED ME THE PAPER AND I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I NEED SOME BEDTIME, TO KEEP NE GOING TO SLEEP.

I UNDERSTAND THE DESIGNATION OF THE LOADING ZONES.

TO ME, IT APPEARS TO ME, SMALLER VEHICLE, SINGLE, SMALLER-TYPE VEHICLES. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? THAT WOULD NOT HANDLE AN 18-WHEELER TRUCK, ET CETERA. AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION GOING

FORWARD. >> I HAVE SOME OF THE ANSWER FOR YOU, LET'S PUT IT OUT. WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, WE CAN GET TO THE TABLE.

INCLUDING THE PARK STUDY, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, SOUTH BEACH ASSOCIATION -- GOODNESS, THERE'S COUPLE MORE.

FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET, ET CETERA.

TO GET THEM TO THE TABLE, DEALING WITH THE ISSUES, DEALING WITH THE COMMISSIONER CORRIDORS IN FACT, I'VE BEEN INVITED TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE NEXT MEETING TO HAVE A CHAT ABOUT ALL OF THIS. WE'RE AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS. WE'RE GOING TO LEVERAGE THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAS THE TYPE OF VEHICLES, TO SERVICE THEIR LOCATIONS TO GET INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT WITH THIS. WITH ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S NO.

AND I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE UNDERSTANDING.

COMMISSIONER PERONA AND WAS FORCEFUL ABOUT HIS MEANT IN THE LAST TIME, ABOUT ENGAGING IN THE ACTIVITIES SO WE CAN GET A GENERAL AGREEMENT AND FOSTER SUPPORT FOR THE NEW PLANS THAT WILL BE ROLLED OUT. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE THAT

NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH. >> THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN, TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT'S COMPREHENSIVE AND THAT WE CAN WORK WITH. EVEN IF WE REALIZE WHAT THE PEAK ZONES ARE FOR THE PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES DOWNTOWN EITHER LUNCH, DINNER, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

IF WE CAN AVOID THOSE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD STEP MOVING FORWARD. IT IS TOUGH NAVIGATING SOME OF THE TURNS, IF IT LAUNCHES BIG COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DOWN THE ROAD. WE WANT TO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE DOWNTOWN.

WE ALL HAVE THAT IN COMMON. WE WANT PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY.

WE WANT THEM TO HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I THINK IF WE APPROACH THAT WITH THE MIND-SET AND WORKING WITH THE SAME STAKEHOLDERS. THIS IS WHERE WE AGREE, THIS IS

WHAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> AND TO ENGAGE ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE A STAKE IN THIS. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE AN OUTREACH PERSON. AUDREY IS -- THEY ARE TALKING TO US. THEY ARE ENGAGED AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE OPINIONS ARE MOVING FORWARD AFTER THEY DIGRESS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

>> IF IT ALL FAILS, MAYBE WE CAN FIND, WE'LL ENTICE THEM TO WORK

WITH US. >> THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO.

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON? >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND GOOD IDEAS HERE. OBVIOUSLY, I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT. I ATTEND THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS MEETINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THE COMMISSION CONTACT THERE,

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THESE FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

THEY TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. THE CHALLENGE, MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES, THE FOLKS THAT DELIVER AND PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD CHLTD THEY ARE LICENSED CDA DRIVERS, AND THEY KNOW THEY SHOULD NOT DO THIS. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE ACTION, AND THEY WON'T BE DRIVING BIG TRUCKS, IF THEY HAVE THE ISSUES. THE CORP PAT HEADQUARTERS, WOULD BE INTUNED TO FIND LOADING ZONES.

IF WE CAN BE ON A MISSION TO TALK TO THE FOLKS, AND ALSO STAFF CONTINUING TO TALK TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS AT THE MEETINGS.

ONCE A MONTH, THEY TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.

PLEASE CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE AND PUSH IT FORWARD.

THE SIGNAGE I SEE IN THE PRESENTATION, LOOKS GOOD.

NOT TOO SURE, WE SHOULD INVEST TOO MUCH IN THE STRIPING AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS, UNLESS WE KNOW THE PARKING STUDY, IDENTIFIED THE SAME ZONES. ARE WE DOING MORE WITH THE

SIGNS? >> THE SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME WAS TO DO THE SIGNAGE. CERTAINLY, BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL SIGNING. AND GET THAT CONFORMITY AND ROLL

OUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> I WILL TELL YOU, THE AVENUE A RELOADING ZONE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER

>> WHICH IS CONFUSING. THERE'S A LOADING ZONE AND ONE LONE PARKING SPACE. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT THE AREA. IT'S KIND OF BY ITSELF AND IT GETS CONFUSING. THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, DO HELP A LOT. I DON'T WANT TO INVEST ANY MONEYS INTO THAT, UNTIL WE LOOK AT THE PARKING STUDY IN MORE DETAIL AND CREATE A MISSION TO GO OUT AND SHARE THIS.

APPRECIATE IT. I'M IN FAVOR OF IT AND MOVING FORWARD. I'M IN FAVOR NOT ONLY SIGNS BUT ADDITIONAL MARKINGS, DELINEATION POINTS WHEN IT'S TIME.

>> AGREED. >> ANY DIRECTION, MR. MIMS,

MR. BRODERICK? >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MIKE BEARS PRODUCE THE SIGNAGE, WITH THE COMMENTARY WITH THE PARKING

COMMITTEE. >> EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT.

>> THIRD ITEM, FROM THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

THIS WAS BROUGHT IN FROM THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL.

AS YOU NOTE IN THE SCREEN, THERE'S A DESIGNATED LAND AREAS, USED FOR TEMPORARY PARKING AND SERVICE PARKING UNPAVEMENT, THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY LEASING. THE LEASE FOR THE PARTICULAR SPACE IS UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

THE CITY HAS BEEN LEASING THE TWO PARCEL $1032.

AND THE OWNER IS ASKING TO INCREASE THAT.

IF YOU NOTE THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING IT IS USED CONSTANTLY.

AND CANDIDLY FROM THE REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S A BARGAIN. WHILE THE THING IS SORTED OUT, THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WILL IMPACT THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR, THE PARKING COMMITTEE THOUGHT IT WAS WERE YOU DENT TO ENGAGE THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND SECURE THAT LAND MOVING FORWARD.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE LEASE IS UP EFFECTIVE THIS MONTH.

>> IT IS AN ANNUAL LEASE? >> IT IS AN ANNUAL LEASE.

AND THEY ARE CONSIDERING ENTERING INTO A 12 MONTH.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME, IF WE HAVE

THE BUDGET. >> THE QUESTION.

>> AND THAT'S IT FROM THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

AM I MISSIN ANYTHING? I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH WRAPPED

IT UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO ON THIS AND OTHER

ENDEAVORS. >> YOU MAY NOT SAY THAT AFTER MY

NEXT PRESENTATION. >> ALL RIGHT.

[c. Planning Items for Discussion: Process for approving Dwelling Rentals Temporary Fee reduction and waivers for Planning Fees Chapter 125 in order to facilitate the construction of duplexes on non-conforming lots within in-fill neighborhoods Waiver of Distance for Alcohol Edgartown Zoning District code revisions Expansion of the Central Business District (CBD) and C-4 zoning district]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IN THE AGENDA, PLANNING ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.

I WILL READ IT ALL. PROCESS FOR APPROVING DWELLING RENTAL, CHAPTER 125, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF DUPLEXES, NONCONFORMING LOTS, WITHIN THE INFILL AREAS, NEIGHBORHOODS, WAIVER DISTRICTS FOR ALCOHOL, EXPANSION OF THE

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CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. >> ALREADY.

>> MS. HOFMEISTER, ARE YOU STARTING? MR. MIMS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO LEAD INTO THIS?

>> ALL RIGHT. IT'S YOUR SHOW

>> MIGHT CHECK THESE IN. >> HE'S BEING WELL PAID, RIGHT?

>> WELL, YOU WANT A START TIME, MACRO VIEW?

>> THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION. THE REASON, SINCE THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH PERTAINING SPECIFICALLY TO VACATION RENTALS, I'M HERE, AND WITH THEIR REQUEST TO COME FORWARD, TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THIS IS AN ONGOING MATTER. AS AN OVERVIEW, THE VACATION RENTAL INDUSTRY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA GENERATES $20 BILLION A YEAR IN DIRECT AND INDIRECT INCOME TO THE STATE.

THAT'S A SHOCKING NUMBER. THE OTHER THING, THE IN IT DOES STRE IS GROWING AND IT EQUATED TO 5 PERCENT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA BUDGET. SHOCKING ENOUGH.

IF YOU FOLLOW THE MONEY, YOU MAY UNDERSTAND THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE WHAT IT HAS DONE. HAVING SAID THAT, THE ADVENT OF THE CORONAVIRUS, THE HOTEL INDUSTRY FELL OFF BY 80 PERCENT.

THE VACATION INDUSTRY FLATLINED AND GREW EXPENDISHARY, THIS IS A DISRUPTION IN THE PART OF THE REAL ESTATE.

THAT'S SIMPLY NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

WE WILL HAVE TO MANAGE THIS ISSUE MOVING FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXNDER. >> WHEN I HEAR YOU SAY ISSUE AND WHEN WE SPEAK OF, SWEENEY ALWAYS TELL YOU, BEFORE I START THE MEETING, I HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE LEGISLATION HAS SAID AND DEMANDED OF US. WHAT ISSUE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

>> LET ME GET THAT IN ABOUT 10 SECONDS.

ONE SIDE NOTE, AND ANYBODY WHO IS DOING INTEREST.

THE TAXING GENERATED IN THE TYPES OF RENALS.

ST. LOUISE COUNTY, GENERATES 5 PERCENT.

STATE OF FO GENERATES 6.75. THERE'S A DISCRETIONARY TYPE OF TAX. THERE'S A TARKS THAT'S.

THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO BUY LUNCH TODAY

>> CURRENTLY, AND THIS IS FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES, COMMISSIONER.

THE CITY IS MOST LIKELY BEING, OR SERVICING SOMEWHERE IN EXCESS OF 600 VACATION RENTALS. SOME ARE LEGITIMATELY LEGISLATED WITH THE CITY. TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE COMMISSIONER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, DEALS REGULARLY, WE'RE BEING LOOING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS WITH A ROBUST-TYPE OF PROCEDURE THAT MANY MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE ADOPTED. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FROM INFORMATION, FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, TO REVIEW SOME OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, FOR A LOT OF MIAMI BEACH, MANY, MANY MUNICIPALITIES, ADOPTED A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

WHAT THAT PROCESS, INSTEAD OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND PLANNING BOARD AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, TO BE SOME TYPE OF INVESTIGATIVE BODY, TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, PRIOR TO THEIR PROCESS MOVING FORWARD THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS. THE QUESTION COMES UP, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO IS A STAKEHOLDER IN THE PROCESS? THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

IT'S THE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS HOLY ADVISING IS IN THE PROJECT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A COMMISSION XH L XHILT SIGH. TO ROLL OUT TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. AND WE BELIEVE, JENNIFER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED, AS EACH

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AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, ONCE AGAIN, INSTRUMENTALLY IMPORTANT.

THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, SUGGESTING WE HAVE A RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVE, TO REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF THE HOMEOWNER.

WE SUGGEST WE'LL BE BRINGING IN AN INDUSTRY.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CIRCUMVENT OR NECESSARILY CHANGE THE PROCESS CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONES COMING UP WITH THAT DETERMINATION. THIS WILL COME UP WITH ONE POINT APPLICATION PROCEDURE. MR. SWEENEY'S OFFICE, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH HIM BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DO THE DRAFTING OF THIS.

THE WORKING GROUP WILL HEAR FROM THE PARTIES THAT HAVE A CONCERN OR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE AREA, TO GET THEIR INFORMATION TO THE TABLE, TO INCORPORATE THE PROJESHTH.

THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO MORPH AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY ARE ALL WHOLESALE DIFFERENT. AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, THAT COME UP, FOR EXAMPLE, IS DO YOU HAVE YOUR LICENSING THROUGH DPR? DO YOU HAVE YOUR -- DID YOU ADD ON BEDROOMS THAT WERE NOT PERMITTED THROUGH THE BUILDING PROCESS, ET CELERA.

THERE'S A RECENT CASE, TO THAT CONCERN.

WE WANT TO SEE, ALL THE CONCERNS AND ADDRESS, PRIOR TO IT BECOMING TO THE CITY COMMISSION. WE CAN CONTEMPLATE IT UP FRONT.

AND THE PLANNING BOARD, I THINK, IT THREE OUT OF FOUR ITEMS IN THE LAST AGENDA. WE NEED TO FIX THE PROCESS.

AND OTHER TOWNS AND CITIES, AND COUNTIES ARE IN FRONT OF US IN THIS. WE'RE KIND OF COMING FROM BEHIND. WE CAN LEARN FROM WHAT THEY ADOPT AND WHAT'S WORKING FOR THEM AND NOT WORKING FOR THEM.

THE KEYS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. FOR YEARS, THEY'VE BEEN OUT.

AND CITY ATTORNEY SWEENEY, BROUGHT TO US, FROM THEM THAT IS ALSO ROBUST. THE DISCUSSION, THAT THE HAFT CITITION XH, RELATIVE 20 ON STREET PARKING.

THAT'S AN EXCELLENT DISCUSSION. THAT'S AN ADD ON PUT ON, PLANNING BOARD MEETING WHEN THAT PARTICULAR SUGGESTING

>> AND WE WHAT. LET'S GET TO THE TABLE, BROAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT, AUGUST THE PARTIES COULD SUPPORT.

PLANNING THE BORARD. I WILL HAVE SENSE, THE CITY COMMISSION, WILL THINK THAT AS WELLMENT BASED ON THE PARTICULAR ISSUES. I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. DID YOU CONSIDER THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THIS TASK FORCE?

>> CERTAINLY. THIS LIST I PUT TOGETHER.

THIS IS JUST MY LIST. THIS IS GOING TO BE OTHER

PARTICIPANTS. >> THIS IS A SHORT LIVED.

THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE PROCESS.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO WITH THE VETTING.

>> AND PLANNING BOARD, IS THAT, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A 90 DAY TURN AROUND. TO PRODUCE THE DOCUMENT, FOR THEM TO GET TO PROPER LANGUAGE AND BE ABLE TO ROLL IT OUT TO YOU. ON THE BACK SIDE, THE INDUSTRY IS IN COMPLETE CHANGE, CONSTANTLY.

AND IF THE COMMITTEE, TO ADDRESS THE PARTICULAR POINT, IT COULD BE A STANDING COMMITTEE. AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BE BOGGED

DOWN. >> IT'S THE TASK ORIENTED.

IT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER.

YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS INDUSTRY IS EVOLVING.

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>> AND I ALSO KNOW THE SHORT TERNL RENTAL INDUSTRY IS ONLY GOING TO GET BIGGER. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL GET MORE ANXIOUS.

AND SOMEHOW AND ALL OF THIS, WHAT WE'RE BECOMING IS A SOCIETY OF MUCH MORE MOBILE SOCIETY THAN WE EVER THOUGHT IN HAVING THE PEOPLE, HAVING STRANGERS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMEHOW HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP WHAT MANY OF THE RESIDENTS, HAVING SHORT TERM RENTALS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> WE KNOW THAT CAN'T BE DONE. I'M SYMPATHETIC, AND PLANNING BOARD SUFFERING WITH THE SAME BURDEN.

HAVING SAID THAT, THE VACATION INDUSTRY IS NO LONGER A MOM AND POP OPERATION. IT'S BUYING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS WORTH OF REAL ESTATE THAT WILL NEVER SEE.

>> THEY DON'T VOTE HERE, AND THEY DON'T LIVE HERE.

>> DON'T VOTE HERE, ECONOMIC DOWNPOUR, SEE WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE. THEY ARE PAYING RETEN SCOMBROO SUFFICE IT HERE, WE CAN MANAGE IB.

>> THESE THINGS ARE DROPPING DOWN LIKE PINS ALL AROUND MY HOUSE. I GET IT, IN MY CAR ASK.

>> YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> AND JOIN THE BANDWAGON. >> NOW THAT WE HAVE APPROVED THE R2 AREAS, THESE ARE COMING UP LEFT AND RIGHT AND LEFT AND RIGHT. THE THING ABOUT IT, WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. THE ONES THEY PASSED WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM, NOBODY IS HERE, OBJECTING TO IT.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE CHAMBER FULL IN THE AISLES OUTSIDE OF THE CHAMBER ALL FOUR OF THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO IT. IT SHOULDN'T BE A DECISION, NO MATTER WHAT. I PARTICULAR, NOT OUT OF LINE, ESPECIALLY DOWN IN THE KEYS, THERE'S SOME SERIOUS COST THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. THE ORIGINAL ONE AND RENEWAL.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I WAS A LAND OWNER FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, RENTED A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN THE LAST 30 YEARS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESS PLAN OF A VACATION RENTAL, IT'S ABOUT THREE TIMES YOU COULD GET FOR A REGULAR RENTAL. A HOME YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IN, 50-20,000, IN A GIVEN YEAR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 50-60,000, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS MAKE BEING THE CITY DOLLARS, INSTEAD OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND -- AND I'M LOOKING FOR A UNIFORM FORMAT AND I'M LOOKING FOR HELP TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE COSTS RELATED TO THE ISSUE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I BELIEVE THE TASK FORCE IS NEEDED RIGHT NOW. THEY NEED TO TURN IN OVER EVERY STONE. WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC, THAT GUY SITTING OVER THERE, IS GOING TO TELL US EVERY TIME, WE DON'T HAVE TOTAL HOME RULE ON THIS.

WE CAN'T SAY, I DON'T LIKE WHERE THAT IS.

IT'S IS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE.

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WE CAN'T DENY ANYTHING ANYMORE. CONSISTENCY, FORMAT, PRETTY MUCH GET IT OFF THE HOT SEAT OVER HERE -- JENNIFER WILL TELL US, EVERY MEETING YOU HAVE FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, YOU'LL END UP WITH 2-3 ON THE AGENDA, IF NOT MORE, IF IT'S GROWING AT 100 PERCENT PER YEAR. THIS IS BIG BUSINESS.

>> MADAM MAYOR. IF I MAY VERY QUICKLY.

I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY.

WE HAVE NINE RESIDENTIAL ZONING. E-1, TO 3.

AND OF THE NINE, EIGHT OF THOSE ARE CONDITIONAL USE.

THE E-1 IS THE ONLY ONE PROHIBITED.

OUR STATUTE IS GRANDFATHERED STILL.

AND LITIGATION IS STILL ONGOING. IF SOMEONE WERE TO TRY TO HAVE A VACATION RENTAL IN THE PROHIBITTIVE E-1 IT WOULDN'T BE A DISCUSSION. BECAUSE WE'RE GRANDFATHERED, WE WOULD BE FINE DENYING THAT, I BELIEVE FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. THE OTHER EIGHT, A-2-A-5.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO DENY THEM.

AS COMMISSIONER PERONA ELUDED, THAT'S HARD TO COME BY IN A LOT OF LOCATIONS. CONCERNS ON WHAT MAY HAPPEN, THAT IS TYPICALLY, NOT COMMENTS OF SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

AND THIS IS PROHIBIT THEM, WE WILL DEFINITELY LOSE THE GRANDFATHERING STATUS. WE WOULD WANT, EVERYTHING AS OF

R5. >> BEFORE THE CITY, IS CONTINUALLY TRYING TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO NOT PROHIBIT THAT. IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE STATUTE, NOT SAY THE WHOLE THING IS THROWN OUT.

>> MAYOR, FROM YOUR INVOLVEMENT, THAT'S AN EVERY YEAR BATTLE.

THAT WILL NOT GO AKWA. >> USUALLY HOPELESS.

>> AS YOU HAVE TOLD US, TIME AND GEB, IT'S GOING TO GO AE WAY.

THE FOLLOW-UP, COSTS, SEVERAL OF YOU MARATHON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF 345IR THON. IF IT'S AN INITIAL LICENSE FEE AND IT'S DONE THROUGH THEIR FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE.

THERE'S A COMPONENT OF SAFETY THAT'S GOVERNED BY THIS.

A SINGLE BEDROOM IS A $1,000 LICENSE FEE AND THE RENEWAL IS $600. FOUR BEDROOMS IS $1200 AND $850 ANNUALLY. OF COURSE, STLAES AN INSPECTION THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT. THE REVENUES, OR AT LEAST FEE ASSOCIATED, AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING.

AS BRODERICK SAYS, THIS IS A MULTI-BILLION DOLLARS INDUSTRY, WHICH IS HUNDREDS AND BILLIONS. AND HOW MUCH IS THE COMMISSION

USE? >> $100.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> FOLLOW-UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS HE CREATED SEPARATE CITY OF FORTH WORTH DWELLING AND REMOVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS.

DOESN'T WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT?

>> AT THIS POINT MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT. THAT'S WHERE I WANT LEGAL -- AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAME UP, WITH WHICH DISTRICT, TWO OF THE COMMERCIAL THEY ARE PERMITTED. ONLY ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL, IS PROHIBITED. WHEN WE CAME UP, THAT'S WHAT INVOLVED PLAN. AND I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR MONTHS.

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ANOTHER MEETING, THEY WILL BE THERE.

AS PLANNING STAFF, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, AS TO WHETHER WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS, OR POLICE VIOLATIONS AS WELL. NOT WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAY, IT'S AFFECTING OR POTENTIALLY AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL TO GO BY AND PUT THAT INTO THE REPORT. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND GOES TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.

IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHERS, IT'S MORE OF A PERMITTING, CREATING A SOURCE OF REVENUE, TO NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THE REQUIREMENTS ARE IDENTIFIED, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THEM AND PERHAPS HAVING A FUNDING SOURCE TO HIRE SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THESE PROPERTIES ARE BEING MANAGED WELL. THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY, ALSO, NOT JUST GETTING THE FIRST APPROVAL, BUT EVERY YEAR, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL STAY WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE. WE HAVE TO DEFER TO MR. SWEENEY OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER PROCESS.

AND AS WE TALK ABOUT IT, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE DISCUSSION, IN THE HANDS THAT'S INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY, TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE. RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY ONE-SIDED. THE PROCESS IS NOT WORKING.

IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, AS -- I DON'T FEEL IT'S A TRUE PLANNING PROCESS.

I THINK IT COULD BE ANOTHER -- >> STUDY IS A VALID POINT.

THE PROCESS ITSELF, IS BROKEN, SIMPLY PUT.

WE'RE TRYING TO APPLY A PORTION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE, THAT'S REALLY NOT DESIGNED FOR THIS. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A TARGETED PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO BE ROBUST.

THE FOLKS, ARE LOOKING TO SET UP COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE, TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THE NEEDS OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BEFORE THIS IS GOING TO MOVE ON. ONCE AGAIN, IT REMOVES, THE CITY COMMISSION FROM PLANNING JUDGE AND JURY, AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION WILL BE. AND ALL THE CHECK, IS NOT GOING TO MAKE ITS WAY TO THE PROCESSES.

IT'S INTERESTING, FROM THE PLANNING BOARD PERSPECTIVE, WHAT'S CODE HAVE TO SAY? ARE THERE INFRACK SHUP? ETTA. AND LIKE I SAID, EVERYBODY HAS BITS. WE NED TO GET TO THE TABLE.

WE HAVE ONE COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS IN WHICH TO DEAL WITH TH THIS.

OTHER THING, AND I WILL JUST COMMENT ON THIS.

WE HAVE A HOST OF THINGS GOING ON.

GREAT THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY, THAT REALLY NEED TO HAVE THEIR ATTENTION TURN TO. HANDLING NOT DEALING WITH VACATION RENTAL USE PROCESSES, IS AN UNFORTUNATE DEPLOYMENT OF THEIR STAFF TIME. IT'S NECESSARY, TO DEAL WITH CURRENTLY. WE CAN FIX IT.

WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER. MARATHON, INDIAN RIVER, WHATEVER, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, WE CAN KIND OF TAKE FROM FOLKS THAT ARE DOWN THE ROAD ALREADY.

>> MADAM MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON AND COMMISSIONER PERONA AND COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON

>> I'LL BE BRIEF. I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

IT'S A WAY FORWARD, AS A PERSON, THAT'S DONE VACATION RENTALS MYSELF, VIA COVID. I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME TO WE GET OUR HANDS AROUND THIS. I SEE IT ASSETING A STANDARD FOR WHAT WE WANT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD.

IF WE CAN KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE WANT A STANDARD.

WE WANT TO LOOK, IF WE HAVE A VACATION RENTAL, HOW IT'S TREATED, HOW IT'S PAINTED. EVERYTHING IS A STANDARD THAT FITS INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, ANY THOUGHTS AT HOW BIG OF A COMMITTEE, IS IT 10, 20, ANY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW?

>> I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE TEN PEOPLE.

AND THE DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE INVOLVED.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE INDUSTRY

TO GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE. >> TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE EVEN FROM INDIAN COUNTY, STARTED THE PROCESS AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL AND

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HAVE TO VET AND DO NOT WORK >> SPLERN.

>> AND THAT WOULD BE CREATIVE TO BRING IT IN.

IN COLABRATION, WE CAN HELP US MOVE THROUGH THE ISSUES.

AND IN ADDITION, I DIDN'T HEAR TASK FORCE.

>> THE VACATION RENTAL INDUSTRY, IS A UNIQUE FUNCTION.

I'VE BEEN IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS FOR 35 YEARS.

AND HOW THE DIFFERENT PLAYERS WORK.

IN THE PARTICULAR DISCUSSION, WE NEED SOMEONE THAT'S AN EXPERT IN THE PARTICULAR SNIPPET OF THE MARKET.

FOR THEM TO EDUCATE ON THEIR CONCERNS, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. ?

>> I AGREE, AND THE GUY IS TRYING TO SELL THE HOUSE.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. I THINK WE HAVE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND BOTH. AND WE CAN BEGIN TO GET THE INFORMATION BACK OUTED TO GUY TO THE AIR B AND B PROCESS.

AND THE LAST THING, WHEN IT AMS COULD TO THIS, WHEN YOU PUT OUT A NUMBER, THAT'S A CONCERN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STIMATION OR DATA, THE REASON WE HAVE A STANDARD, YOU COULD MENTIONED THERE'S 600 PERHAPS, WE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW OF.

THAT'S THE CONCERN, I HAVE, HOW DO WE GET A HANDLE ON THAT, BEST WE CAN; RIGHT? STANDARDS, IF WE CAN SET THE STANDARDS.

I THINK IF WE CAN APPROACH THAT WAY, TAKING THE BEST WHAT'S BEING DONE FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAST AND WEST, AND CREATING OUR OWN STANDARD, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, WILL HELP US GROW THE COMMUNITY. AS WE LOOK AT IT CREATIVITY.

FORT WORTH, IT COULD BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. I WHAT UNT TO MAKE SURE WE

RECOGNIZE. >> PERFECT LEAD IN TO MY STATEMENT. THE ILLEGAL USE.

IT WILL SURPRISE US TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF THE VACATION RENTALS, GOING ON YEAR AFTER YEAR IN FACT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ADVERTISE. THEY HAVE A GROUP THAT RENTS FROM THEM. A LOT OF TIMES, TALKING TO THE PIRATE VACATION RENTALS, THEY ACTUALLY PUT AN ■ADIN THELOCAL NEWSPAPER, WHERE THEY GET MOST OF THE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT. THE PERCENTAGE HAS BEEN BUTTED, PEOPLE DOIN'T NORMALLY. THAT MAY BE THE WAY IT IS NOW, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT ALL STARTED OFF.

WHAT IT HAS TOO, IN TALKING TO FOLKS, AND HAVING THE FLAT FEES AND INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

YOU GET HELP FROM THE INDUSTRY IN POLICING.

THAT WILL HELP OUT. IF WE HAVE 30-40 VACATION RENTALS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW AND WE KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY HUNDREDS OUT THERE THAT ARE DOING IT, WE AREN'T DOING OUR JOB. IF WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE, EVEN WITH SOME HIGHER FEES, THAT HELP COVER THE COSTS, I'M TELLING YOU, IF I OWNED VACATION RENTAL HOMES AND I'M PAYING A COUPLE THOUSAND OF YEAR AND ALL THESE TYPE OF THINGS, AND I KNOW THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE WAY, YOU'RE GETTING A PHONE CALL FROM ME. YOU BETTER CAPTURE THAT PERSON.

WE CAN'T BE THE POLICEMAN ALL THE TIME.

A LOT OF TIMES, THE RESPONSES WE HAVE, AND THE NEGATIVE RESPONSES WE HAVE TO THE VACATION RENTALS ARE NOT LEGITIMATE RENTAL PLACES. THERE'S TOO MANY CARS OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THIS AND THAT, WHATEVER IS GOING ON.

IF WE LOST THE WAR TO VACATION RENTALS, AS FAR AS LOCAL GOVERNANCE, LET'S CAPTURE THE WAY, AT LEAST WE CAN COVER OUR COST AND GET MORE OF A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF LEGITIMACY IN THE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. .

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

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STATE OF FLORIDA, MENTIONED TO - MR. SWEENEY AND MR. MIMS, IT'S NOT AN ENTIRELY PART OF THE ISSUE.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE MENTIONED. I WANTED TO MENTION IT TODAY, HOW DOES THE STATE DEAL WITH LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, IN COMPARESON TO H.O.A.S? H.O.A.S HAVE STRICT RULES.

SORRY, YOU CAN'T RENT YOUR HOME BECAUSE WE ARE A GATED COMMUNITY. I WOULD BE CURIOUS OF THE COMMUNITIES FROM HOA'S. WE KNOW WHAT IT IS FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THE OTHER COMMENT IS THE COMMITTEE.

I HEARD THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT IN THE COMMITTEE MAKEUPS ALSO.

WHEN WE GET TO THINGS, OF EFFICIENCIES AND HOW WE CONDUCT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS IN MY EXPERIENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMITTEE NO MORE THAN 10. I WOULD LIKE OUR SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE, THAT WE PICK, AND UP TO FIVE OTHER FOEKTS THAT ARE

INDUSTRY PT. >> THAT COMMITTEE SHARED, FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY AND SUBJECT MATTERS EXPERTS TO TALK TO THE COMMITTEE. THAT THAT WOULD BE THE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FORT LAUDERDALE, THE MARATHON, THE REALTORS, AND I CALL THEM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AND LET THEM GIVE INFORMATION, WHAT THEY SEE, WHAT THEY FEEL, AND LET THE CITY TAKE THE SET OF DATA AND USE IT TO OUR BENEFIT, FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND AFTER THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLLECTING TAXES AND FEES. WE'RE NOT THERE AND MISSING OUT ON IT. HONESTLY THE FOLKS THAT HAVE COMPLAINED, AND IT'S MAKING ME SMILE A LITTLE BIT.

THE FOLKS THAT HAVE COMPLAINED WILL BE SURPRISED WHEN THE FEES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN IT WAS TODAY.

WHAT WAS IT, MR. SWEENEY? $100?

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT MS. HOFMEISTER SAID.

ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE.

I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS WORKING TOWARDS KEEPING THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.

I MENTIONEDED TO MR. SWEENEY, TOO, IF WE LOSE THAT CORRECTION, WE LOSE THE ORDINANCE. AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO RETAIN THAT, YES FOR US AND OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE HAVE TO ADAPT TO IT. IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET IN FRONT, AS FAR AS THE COLLECTION AND OPPORTUNITIES OF THE FEES.

AND ONE THING THAT I'M NOT HIP WITH OVERALL, IF WE CAN PARCEL THIS PROCESS FROM GENERAL RENTAL ORDINANCE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DEFINE IT.

I REMEMBER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, THERE'S A MOVEMENT, RENTAL MOVEMENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

I DON'T THINK A SIX MONTH OR GREATER RENTAL.

MAYBE YOU COULD CONVINCE ME LATER ON.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KEEP THAT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE OLD CONVERSATION. DO YOU REMEMBER THE OLD

CONVERSATION? >>.

>> OH, YES. >> YES, WE DO.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP IT SEPARATED.

>> MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IN THE VACATION RENTAL, AREA, THE REDEMARCATION, THOSE PARTICULAR RENTALS, REQUIRE DPR LICENSING.

THERE WILL BE THE BREAK LONG-TERM AND VACATION RENTAL.

THE VACATION RENTAL BEING SO THAT WOULD BE A BREAK POINT.

>> AWESOME. GOOD SUGGESTION.

>> REAL QUICKLY, THERE'S SORT OF THREE CATEGORIES.

LOOKING AT CITY CLERK OF TIME FRAMES OF RENTAL IN FLORIDA, IF YOU WILL. THERE'S LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS IN THE DAY AND NOBODY IS REALLY REFERRING TO AS A VACATION RENTAL. IF YOU'RE THERE AT LEAST SIX

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THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION AT THE STATE LEVEL ABOUT INCLUDING THAT. AT THIS POINT AND I'LL DEFER TO MS. COX ON HOW YOU HANDLE BTR RELATED TO THAT.

THAT IS IT AN ISSUE.USC-JJSC1029

>> NOT LIKE TRADITIONAL, THERE IS NO FEE ASSOCIATED. WE DON'T REGULATE, USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS. ANYTHING 30 DAYS OR LESS, DOES REQUIRE, THEY DO PAY $45 AND SOME ODD CENTS FOR THAT. ALL PART OF THAT REGISTRATION PROCESS.

WE CAN CAPTURE THE PROPERTY MANAGER AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

GREATER THAN 30 DAYS, WE REGISTER THEM WITH US BUT NOT ACTUALLY BTR.

>> I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS THING TOO. DOWN THE ROAD OR IN THE PROCESS THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EDUCATION PROCESS FOR ALL OF US BUT ALSO FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

REALLY IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AND WHAT THEIR LEVEL OF EXPECTATION IS.HE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS EMBARKING ON A MUCH MORE ROBUST PROJECT WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO INVOLVE PEOPLE NOT JUST OFFICIALS LIKE US, BUT RESIDENTS IN HELPING WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BATTLE AND HELPING EDUCATE LEGISLATORS ON THAT.

I KNOW IT IS AN UPHILL BATTLE. I KNOW THAT INDUSTRY IS VERY SOPHISTICATED, THEY HAVE LOBBYISTS IN TALLAHASSEE WORKING FULL-TIME ON THE LEGISLATORS.

WHEREAS THE GOVERNMENTS DO NOT. BUT THIS WHOLE ISSUE NEEDS TO GO BEYOND THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM IN TERMS OF EDUCATION. MAYBE THIS TASK FORCE CAN BE THINKING IN TERMS OF THAT TOO.

THAT WOULD HELP US ALL I THINK. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ISSUE? DO YOU NEED DIRECTION FROM US TO PROVE THE CONCEPT OF THE TASK FORCE? WE ARE GOOD?

ALL RIGHT. GOOD JOB. >> WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. WE REALLY DO. >> CONTINUE MADDIE MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WANTED TO QUICKLY, WE HAVE A FULL LIST OF ITEMS STILL YET TO BE DISCUSSED. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TEMPORARY FEE REDUCTION.

THIS WAS INTENDED TO COME TO YOU LAST MONTH BUT WE HAD A TROPICAL STORM.

SO THE TEMPORARY SIX MONTH REDUCTION AND WAIVER DID EXPIRE NOVEMBER 30.

WE HAVE IMAGINATIVELY BEEN CONTINUING WITH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSION. IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION, I WILL GO OVER LOSSES DURING THIS TIME. WITH THE IMPACTS HAVE BEEN SINCE HAVING A REDUCTION OR WAIVER TO CERTAIN FEES. FOR THE BENEFIT OF COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, THREE DIFFERENT FEES THAT WE TOUCHED UPON DURING THE PANDEMIC. ONE WAS OUR PRE-APPLICATION MEETING FEE, TYPICALLY 300 HOURS, THE REMAINDR TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THAT HAS BEEN WAIVED. THAT WAS WAIVED IN JUNE. WAS SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE NOVEMBER 30. THE OTHER TWO REDUCTIONS AND THAT WAS TO OUR NONRESIDENTIAL SITE PLANS. AS YOU CAN NOTE, THE REASON WHY WE DID NOT COLLECT ANY OF THE

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THEY WERE NOT REALLY FEELING THE PURPOSE OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS, SMALLER LOT SIZES. APPLICATIONS THAT RESTRICT ZONING.

THAT IS WHY THAT FIRST YEAR AND OUR PROJECTION WAS TO NOT HAVE ANY.

WE THEN THEY GET TWO APPLICATIONS. WITH REGARD TO REVENUE, WE MADE A PROJECTION. THE PREOP MOST SIGNIFICANT. IN I WANTED TO DISCUSS.

WE HAD 58 PRE-APPLICATION FOR THE YEAR MAY 2019, MAY 2020. HEN WE COLLECTED THE FEE.

SO WE MADE THAT SIX MONTH PROJECTION BASED ON THAT. WE SPLIT IT IN HALF ANTICIPATING 29. WHAT WE ACTUALLY GOT WAS 69. WE DO BELIEVE IT COULD BE THE TIMES COULD BE THE FACT WE WERE NOT CHARGING A FEE THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. NOT CAPTURED THAT REVENUE. YOU COULD SEE THAT OUR TOTAL LOSS WAS $12,525, OUR TOTAL ACTUAL LOSS JUST OVER 77,000. WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL.

WE DO A LOT OF WORK THAT WE ARE SUBSIDIZING RIGHT NOW. SO GIVEN THE TIMES I DO NOT RECOMMEND CONTINUING THIS FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PUBLIC UP TO SPEED AND PERHAPS PUT A NOTICE ON OUR WEBSITE IN GIVING A DEADLINE PERHAPS OF JANUARY 1 OR THE END OF JANUARY. TO GO BACK TO WHAT OUR FEES WERE BECAUSE THE COUNTY, OUR SCHEDULE BASED ON 2009 FEES. PART OF OUR DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT OUR SCHEDULE. THE COUNTY INCREASES OUR FEES EVERY YEAR.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON OUR LIST OF THINGS TO TACKLE. BUT I'M NOT READY TO PRESENT THAT TODAY. SO HAVING SAID THAT I WANT TO HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE WALL

AND HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS. >> RECOMMENDING WE REINSTATE THE FEE JANUARY 1?

OR SOMETIME? >> YES, MA'AM. >> ANY DISCUSSION? ANY THOUGHTS? I AM THINKING I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF REINSTATING THESE FEES. THEN DOWN THE ROAD I WOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT RAISING THE FEES. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR ALL THE TIME IS PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COUNTY FEES. I ALWAYS SAY, LOOK AT US COMPARED TO THE COUNTY.

WE ARE A BARGAIN COMPARED TO THE COUNTY. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT IS MY QUESTION. SINCE WAS IT JUNE OR MAY? THIS MAY.

HAVE YOU SEEN SUBSTANTIAL PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS? >> WE HAVE SEEN IT MUCH MORE.

WHAT WE SAW SIX MONTHS, MORE THAN WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR THE WHOLE YEAR.

>> THAT IS WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE. SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE WE HAVE TO GIVE SOME INCENTIVE FOR FORT PIERCE BECAUSE IT IS NOT ON THE RADAR.

BELIEVE ME, DIFFERENCE IN JUST THOSE FEW MONTHS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

MOST OF THE PROJECTS IF NOT ALL OF THEM, WE HAVE SOME SMALL PROJECTS BUT MOST HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIAL PROJECTS THAT COULD AFFORD THE $300 FOR THE APPLICATION FEE.

IT DOES ADD UP, IT IS STAFF TIME PUTTING THESE TOGETHER. PROVIDING WRITTEN COMMENTS AT THIS STAGE. WE HAD AN OPEN ENDED MEETING. WE HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS WE GET FROM ALL THE REVIEW AGENCIES INCLUDING OUTSIDE. WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE APPLICANT. WE CALL THEM. LARGER PROJECT THAT REQUIRES MORE AT THAT STAGE, WE HAVE ALWAYS INCLUDED EVERYONE. IF WE NEED TO BRING ENGINEERING OR BUILDING TO THE TABLE RATHER THAN COMMENTS, WE DO. GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.

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>> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT SHOWS US YOU KNOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS DOING THEIR JOB. WE WANT TO SEE THAT YOU GET PAID REGARDLESS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT INITIATED THAT IN THE

BEGINNING. >> I THINK IF I MAY, MR. ALEXANDER, WHAT A LOT OF THEM HIS ABILITIES WERE DOING AT THAT TIME. WE JOINED THE TEAM TO HELP OUT WITH THE PANDEMIC. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR

BUSINESS COMMUNITY WAS STILL GOING FORWARD WITH BUSINESS. >> WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

>> WE ARE VERY BUSY. I DON'T THINK IT IS JUST BECAUSE OF THIS.VERYONE IS IN THE PLANNING. EVERYONE KNOWS FORT PIERCE IS THE PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.

>> THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. JANUARY, FEBRUARY WITH THIS PANDEMIC?

>> WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEEK A DEVELOPMENT EVEN IN OUR SMALLER AREAS. ARCHITECT ON STAFF. DOING DUPLEXES AND HELPING THEM LAY OUT THOSE SITE PLANS. EVEN IN ADDITION TO OUR PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.

WE WANT QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT TO HOLD OUR HAND THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. >> REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE STEPPED OUT THERE AND WE DID THINGS LIKE THIS, TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE FEES TO SHOW PARTNERSHIP.

THAT WE DID HAVE SENSITIVITY TO THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK IT IS AN INCENTIVE OR DETERRENT, $300 WHEN YOU HAVE $300,000 PROJECT GOING ON.

SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYIG ABOUT THAT. IT DOES BOTHER ME ON THE LOSS WHEN IT IS OVER WITH. I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MATCH THOSE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE AND TO GIVE THE RESPECT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CHARGING THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE NEEDING SPECIAL SERVICES AS WE GO FORWARD. I AM TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF JANUARY 1, LET'S GET BACK TO THE WAY WE WERE. NOT EVEN GOING TO BE RIPPLE IN THE POND WHEN IT IS ALL OVER

WITH. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU.

A QUESTION AND CONCERN TOO. WE OPENED THE DOOR, ALLOWED APPLICATIONS IN.

NOW LOOKING AT BEGINNING TO CLOSE THE DOOR. I UNDERSTAND THAT, I GUESS MY QUESTIONING WOULD BE THIS IS THE PRE-APPLICATION PART. WHAT DO YOU LOOK AT BECAUSE I SEE THE ACTUAL LOSS, I GET THAT.HAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AT THE BACK END? THE APPLICATION IS IN. WHEN THE SHOVEL HITS THIRD, ASSUMING OTHER TAXATION.

WE REALIZE SOME THINGS WE COULD GAIN AS A RESULT OF PEOPLE COMING IN THE DOOR.

WHEN WE GET CONCRETE STRUCTURES, MAKE UP ANY OF THIS AT SOME POINT?

>> RESPOND TO THIS. >> BRING ME UP TO SPEED. >> I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE SUBMITTING PETITIONS BECAUSE THERE IS NO FEE. BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THEY WILL CALL AND GO HOW MUCH IS THE FEE? SO THAT HAVING SAID THAT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BACK END, IT IS MORE WITH THE IMPACT FEES AND BUILDING PERMIT FEES.

>> WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? >> I DO BELIEVE THAT WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COMMISSION HAS DONE AS OF LATE WITH OUR IMPACT FEE MORATORIUM, WITH OUR SPEED TO DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE HAVE CREATED A CULTURE THAT IS FRIENDLY TO DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THE DEVELOPERS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN HELPING THEM. I BELIEVE THIS REDUCTION WAS JUST MET, A WAY TO FINANCIALLY OFFSET SOME UPFRONT COSTS. THE HEIGHT OF THE VIRUS

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SO I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE MAINTAINING HIGH STANDARD WITH WHAT WE SELECT AND HOW WE SELECT THEM. I SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD. WE ARE GOING TO SEE DEVELOPMENT

BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE LAID THE GROUNDWORK. >> YES, SIR.

>> PROCEED. >> I AGREE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT AND I AGREE. I WAS VERY STRONG PROPONENT OF THIS AND I STILL AM AN ADVOCATE. FOR THE FEE REDUCTION.

I AM OKAY WITH GOING BACK BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT AS A LOSS.

I WILL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS LOOKING FOR, INTO MY MIND, RECEIVED THE RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. AN OPPORTUNITY IN MY OPINION LONG TERM.WHILE WE DID NOT COLLECT THESE MONIES UPFRONT RIGHT THIS SECOND, I DO SEE IT AS A RETURN IN OUR INVESTMENT.

LONG TERM, PROVIDE INCENTIVE OR OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE, MORE THAN WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TALK ABOUT IT. AT THIS POINT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I AM OKAY WITH REVERTING BACK JANUARY 1. I DON'T SEE IT AS A LOSS, I SEE IT AS AN INVESTMENT. APART WE PLAYED DURING A PANDEMIC.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS PANDEMIC. READY TO ACT IN A FORWARD THINKING MODE AND I APPRECIATE THIS COMMISSION FOR SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT.

I THINK IT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. I AM OKAY WITH GOING BACK TO WHERE WE WERE AND ESTABLISHING OUR FEES AGAIN. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD POINT. >> PRETTY MUCH CONSENSUS? RIGHT?

GREAT. OKAY. >> MOVING ON.

REBECCA WILL TAKE A LEAD ON SOME OF THIS PRESENTATION. THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

>> THERE WE ARE. LET'S GO WITH THIS. GOOD MORNING.

MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. ASSISTANT PLANNING DIRECTOR. WE HAVE LABELED AS RESIDENTIAL AMENDMENTS, WHAT THIS IS, TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE AND TRYING TO STREAMLINE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN AREAS WITHIN OUR CITY. QUITE FRANKLY COULD USE THIS REDEVELOPMENT. WITH THAT RECEIVING INTEREST FROM MANY DEVELOPERS TO TRY AND

PROVIDE FOR MORE SINGLE-FAMILY, MORE DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL. >> MICROPHONE CLOSER.

>> I AGREE. ON TAPE TOO. >> SO AGAIN, RECEIVED A LOT OF INTEREST FROM DEVELOPERS AND INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY, THERE IS A NEED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE NEED FOR DUPLEXES. SO THIS IS A STEP FORWARD TO TRY AND STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS AND ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT IN SPECIFIC AREAS AND CIRCUMSTANCES WITHIN THE CITY. THIS IS THAT FIRST STEP. FIRST STEP OF MANY ONGOING STEPS TO PROVIDE FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY REDEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREAS OF NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THESE SINGLE-FAMILY DUPLEX DEVELOPMENTS. THAT BEING SAID, I CREATED SOME CHANGES.

YOU WILL SEE THEM HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. MOSTLY ADDITIONS TO CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE CODE BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS FIRST STEP IS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR NON-CONFORMING LOTS. THESE ARE LOTS PRE-EXISTING, CREATION OF OUR ORDINANCE.

IN 81. SO IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF RECORD THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO THE CREATION OF THE ORDINANCE, IT MEETS THE STANDARDS DESIGNATED WITHIN JANUARY 25, 1970.HAT IS THEY MAY NOT MEET THE LOT SIZE, REGULATED WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS.

BUT AGAIN, CREATED PRIOR TO 1981. IT HAD BEEN A LEGAL CREATION.

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THIS SECTION APPLIES TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, ESSENTIALLY WITHIN THAT FIRST SUBSECTION OF JANUARY 25, 1970, ADDED DUPLEX. IF IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE IN THE DISTRICT, PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE DISTRICTS. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE, OPENED IT UP FOR EVERY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAD A LEGAL NONCONFORMING LOT CREATED PRIOR TO 81, YOU CAN NOW PUT IN A DUPLEX AS LONG AS YOU MEET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THAT DISTRICT. YOU MEET THE HEIGHT, THE SETBACKS.

THE LOT COVERAGE. STILL HAVE TO BE IN PLACE, STILL HAVE TO BE MANDATED BUT NOW YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE OPTION TO PUT IN DUPLEX WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS.

IT REALLY OPENS UP THE ABILITY TO DO NOT JUST SINGLE-FAMILY BUT DUPLEXES, MORE UNITS WITHIN THESE AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TODAY AND THAT PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL UNITS.

>> HOW MANY ARE THERE? NONCONFORMING LOTS? >> HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS WITHIN

THE CITY. >> INTEREST FROM PEOPLE NOW? SO IF THEY HAVE NONCONFORMING LOT BUT THEY WERE CREATED BEFORE 1981, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY ARE APPROVED

AUTOMATICALLY FOR A DUPLEX? >> THE ABILITY TO APPLY.HEY CAN APPLY FOR THOSE PERMITS TO BUILD DUPLEXES AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE REST OF THE STANDARDS FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

>> IF I MAY ADD, REQUIRING REVIEW. BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE IN THERE BEFORE. ALL THIS CAME ABOUT FROM RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE CALLING AND WANTING TO DO A DUPLEX, THE LOT IS TOO SMALL.

THEN ALSO ALLOWS US TO REVIEW DUPLEXES FOR STATICS. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HAVING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY COME IN TO OUR MEETINGS, ONE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES IN LINCOLN PARK, HE ASKED ABOUT WHY ARE DUPLEXES DESIGNED IN SUCH A MANNER WHERE IT LOOKS TOO INSTITUTIONAL? CAN WE CHANGE THAT. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW BEEN DOING WITHOUT THIS BUT JUST STARTING THE TALK WITH A NUMBER OF LOCAL DEVELOPERS WHO ARE DOING DUPLEXES. IT IS WORKING VERY WELL. NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO START LOOKING AT DUPLEXES FOR STATICS. HAVING CONTROL OVER THE LANDSCAPING AND HOW IT FRONTS TO A STREET IN THE ELEMENTS OF THE ARCHITECTURE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I AM STILL GOING.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> MAYBE YOU WILL ANSWER IT. >> KEEP GOING.

>> THE SECOND CHANGE WE ARE DOING IS THAT THIS WITHIN THE DISTRICT AGAIN, I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE LINCOLN PARK DISTRICT. THAT AREA IS FULL OF ZONING DISTRICTS. AS I STARTED TO LOOK WITHIN MY OWN COMMUNITY, WHAT IS STOPPING THE STREAMLINING OF APPROVAL OF THESE DISTRICTS IS THAT WE HAVE LIMITED IT.

DOES NOT INCLUDE DUPLEXES. SO BY STRIKING THE WORD SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS AND ALLOWING PRESIDENTIAL R3, TARGETED TO THESE AREAS BETWEEN LINCOLN PARK AND THE DISTRICT.

NOW ALLOWED FOR DUPLEXES TO BECOME A REALITY. ALLOW FOR THE APPLICATION OF THOSE PROJECTS TO COME IN MORE EASILY. ALSO CLEAN UP MATHEMATICAL PICKUPS THAT THE CODE HAD WITHIN IT. THIS REFLECTS OUR FUTURE

DESTINATION FOR THOSE AREAS. >> AGAIN JUST ANOTHER CLEANUP. I HAVE MADE THIS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THE PLAN SAYS. MAKING IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY

APPROVED. THAT CONCLUDES THAT SECTION. >> MADAM MAYOR, SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR. THIS WOULD ALLOW MORE CREATIVITY AS FAR AS THAT?

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OF RESIDENCIES IN? CORRECT? >> MORE DENSITY.

>> YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE GAP BETWEEN PEACOCK AND LINCOLN PARK AREA, DO WE HAVE THE IMPACT? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT BUY OUT LAYOUT RIGHT NOW OF ONE AND TWO? IS THERE MORE POTENTIAL? WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW

ON THIS TYPE OF STUFF? >> WHEN I LOOK AT WHERE THE SMALLER LOTS ARE LOCATED, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHICH DO NOT MEET THE LOT SIZE FOR THAT DISTRICT. NOW ALLOW THEM ESSENTIALLY THAT TO BE WAIVED, TO APPLY FOR A DUPLEX TO BE BUILT WITHIN THOSE LOTS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT LOGICALLY, THEY REALLY RADIATE WITHIN A RADIUS FROM THE DOWNTOWN HOUR.

THOSE COMMUNITIES ADJACENT TO THE DOWNTOWN, SMALLER LOTS. NOW OUT TO THE LINCOLN PARK AND PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT WITH SMALLER LOTS PLOTTED THAT WAY WITHIN THE 1900S AND LATER.

AS YOU START TO MOVE MORE WEST IN OUR CASE, NOW YOU WILL HAVE THESE DISTRICTS THAT NOW START TO ENCOMPASS E1, E TWO. HISTORICALLY LARGER LOTS. ONE ACRE, HALF ACRE.

THE RECORDER OF AN ACRE. DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO PUT A DUPLEX ON THAT MUCH OF A LOT. THIS SECTION DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT.

ONLY OPENING IT UP FOR DUPLEXES. >> 50 FOOT FRONT LOTS COME INTO PLAY TO BE ABLE TO REBUILD? WITH DUPLEX OPPORTUNITIES PERHAPS.

>> AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE REST OF IT. SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW WITHIN OUR STAFF.YOU CANNOT JUST PUT IN DUPLEX AND SAY WE PUT IN THE DUPLEX AND DRIVEWAY, WE ARE DONE. COME UP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN HARMONY WITH THE

AREA, ALSO A GOOD PRODUCT. >> WE HAVE SEEN SOME INTERESTING ONES.

WE HAVE SEEN TWO STORY, REALLY INNOVATIVE LOOKING THAT WE CANNOT HAVE ENTERTAINED IF IT WAS LIMITED TO SINGLE-FAMILY. WE ARE PROMOTING SINGLE-FAMILY. > ARE WE GOING DOWN THAT PATH? LOOKING AT REVIEW OF ARCHITECT DESIGN OF A PARTICULAR AREA WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO, IF NEIGHBORS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THIS, HOW WOULD THAT HANDLE? SAME TYPE OF LANGUAGE WITH THIS DESIGN CONCEPT.

YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING IN DUPLEX NEXT TO SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING THAT HAS BEEN THERE,

WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT WITH CONDITIONING, ETC.?>> I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS POINT, IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED AS A CONDITIONAL USE. IF IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE IT WOULD COME TO YOU BUT RIGHT NOW PROPOSED AS A PERMITTED USE. ALL OF THE APPROVAL DONE.

>> HE WAS BACKING UP. >> HE WAS. >> IT WAS GOOD.

>> UNIQUE FOR ME. >> IN SOME CASES IN THE R3 AND R5 REQUIRED TO HAVE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL. WE ARE NOT CHANGING THAT PROCESS.

FOR TODAY I WANTED TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT WAS QUICK AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW THESE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION. THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS FOR THAT R3 AND R5 IS REQUIRED TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL. LLOWING THEM TO STEP THROUGH THE DOOR AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO ADD LEAST ASK YOU IF WE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO BUILD.

>> I AM ALL FOR THE STANDARDS. I KNOW THAT HOW THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DESIGNED,

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I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ANTICIPATE THAT AND THAT WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS EITHER WAY WHEN IT COMES TO US AND

WHATEVER THAT PROCESS IS. >> IN THE CASES WHERE IT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A MINOR SITE PLAN PROCESS. ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE HOUSE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIT DOWN, RECEIVED COMMENTS.

LOOK AT IT WITH A REVIEW. SO MORE EYES ON THIS PROJECT. CONDITIONAL USE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THIS COMMISSION BUT HAVE THE ADDED BENEFIT OF HAVING IT SENT OUT WITHIN THE AREA. SO IN FACT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT IS COMING AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS.

>> I LIKE THAT PART. YES. >> AND ONE MORE, WE HAVE FOUND, THAT WE HAVE LISTENED TO PEOPLE'S CONCERN WITH THE WAY THESE DUPLEXES HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO WHERE THE FRONT DOOR IS LOOKING INTO SOMEONE'S REAR DOOR.

SO WE WANT EVERYTHING TO GO ONTO THE STREET. SO YOU CANNOT TELL THE

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DUPLEX AND IS SINGLE-FAMILY. >> YES, SIR.

>> I AM JUST ASKING A QUESTION. I HEARD ABOUT THAT TWO STORY. GOING UP, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IF THAT WAS FACED TOWARD THE BACK DOOR, I MEAN THE ADJACENT BUILDING.

SAY ANOTHER DUPLEX. THEY GO OUT TWO STORIES UP, WOULDN'T THAT DRAINAGE, FALL

RIGHT THERE AT THE BACK DOOR? >> THE WAY WE'VE SEEN THESE DUPLEXES, PROPOSING THAT TWO STORIES SO THEY CONFRONT ONTO THE STREET. SO BOTH DOORS FRONT ON TO THE

STREET BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS. ORE ROOM ON THE SIDES.>> I AM JUST SAYING, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. BUILD A CHURCH NEXT TO THIS DUPLEX.

THE ROOF BEING ABOVE, TWO STORY ALMOST. DRAINED INTO THE BACK.

CANNOT GO OUT THE BACK DOOR BECAUSE THE RAIN IN THE NEXT BUILDING IS INTO THEIR YARD.

WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION FOR THAT. >> GUTTERS PERHAPS UPPER

GUTTERS. >> I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS IN SEVERAL INSTANCES.

THE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HAS A PROVISION WITHIN THEIR GOALS, REVIEW ALL CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE SURE THE DRAINAGE IS WITHIN THEIR PARCEL. DOES NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE

SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. HE HAS A STAFF TO REVIEW. >> I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE ABOUT

THIS DUPLEX AND THIS CHURCH. >> ARE RIGHT. YOU WANT US TO WEIGH IN ON

THIS? DO YOU HAVE MORE? >> WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE BUY IN TO PROCEED. WRITE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO REVIEW NOW.

WE WANTED TO GET THE BLESSING OR IF THERE WAS ANYTHING YOU WANTED US TO ADD TO IT.

>> IN AGREEMENT? CONSENSUS? OKAY.

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>> THE NEXT SECTION, THE NEXT CHANGE AMENDMENT TO SECTION 46 AND 125 REGARDING ALCOHOL SALES AND REQUIREMENTS. SOMETHING THAT WAS SEEN PREVIOUSLY AT A PREVIOUS AGENDA DEVELOPMENT. THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO STAFF.

PREVIOUSLY WITH THE COMMISSION SAW WAS A STUDY BETWEEN WHAT WE DO AND WHAT OTHER CITIES AND OTHER COUNTIES WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA DO. WE MADE THAT PRESENTATION OVER ONE YEAR AGO. THE DIRECTION WAS WE'VE SEEN WHAT OTHER FOLKS DO, GIVE US YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION LETTING YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE MOVING IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION. >> WE PREVIOUSLY SAW THE COMPARISON BETWEEN ALL THESE COUNTIES AND CITIES. THESE WERE THE RANGES BETWEEN THE DISTANCE FROM ALCOHOLIC ESTABLISHMENT THAT SELLS OR HAS CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.

RANGES FROM SCHOOLS, OTHER RELIGIOUS FACILITIES FROM 200 OR 1600 FEET.

DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL 50 FEET. DISTANCES FROM PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS ANYWHERE FROM 200-1600 FEET. THIS CHART THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU SHOWS CURRENTLY WITH THE CITY HAS, WHAT THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE.

I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WHAT MY PROPOSALS ARE BASED ON MY STUDIES OF THOSE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES FROM COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HELD WITHIN THE LINKIN PARK DISTRICTS FROM WHAT FOLKS HAVE TOLD US BASED ON INQUIRIES AND APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSES. SO LET'S START WITH THE TABLE. DISTANCE BETWEEN RESTAURANT AND ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION, RELIGIOUS, SCHOOLS AND OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS.

BE ELIMINATED. THE MAJORITY OF THE WAIVER, THE DISTANCE WAIVERS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED BY THIS COMMISSION HAVE BEEN FOR THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS.

RESTAURANTS, RESTAURANTS FROM SCHOOLS, FROM CHURCHES, THIS COMPRISES THE BULK OF THE APPLICATIONS. BY FAR AND LARGE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE WAIVER HAS BEEN GRANTED.

O GIVEN THE TREND ABOUT THIS COMMISSION IS ACTIVE WHEN THOSE APPLICATIONS HAVE COME BEFORE THEM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ELIMINATE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. SO I FEEL THIS IS AGAIN IN REFLECTIVE OF HOW THIS COMMISSION IS ACTING. FOR BARS AND LOUNGES, RECOMMENDING THE REQUIREMENT, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN BARS AND LOUNGES IN RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND SCHOOLS DROPPED FROM 1600 TWO 1000. ELIMINATED ALTOGETHER FROM OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS. OTHER WORDS, IF YOUR BAR IS NEXT TO ANOTHER BAR, ELIMINATED ALTOGETHER. I AM PROPOSING THE SAME THING FOR A NIGHTCLUB.

I FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SALES, THE SAME LEVEL OF ATTENDANCE.

NOT TELLING YOU THEY ARE SIMILAR BUT SIMILAR ENOUGH THEY CAN BE TREATED IN THE SAME MANNER. EVERYTHING ELSE PROPOSING THAT RELIEVED THE SAME.

THE MAJORITY OF THE INPUT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS, THE MAJORITY OF INPUT THAT THIS CHAMBER HAVE BEEN REFLECTIVE OF LIQUOR STORES IN GROCERIES, DISTANCE FROM RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND SCHOOLS. GIVEN THAT INPUT AND HOW THIS COMMISSION IS ACTED, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE LEAVE IT. ACTUALLY QUITE MORE PERMISSIVE THAN WHAT THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE ALLOWS. SO GIVEN THAT, COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING THIS AS IT IS SEEING QUITE FRANKLY HOW IT WORKS. THE MAJORITY OF THE APPLICATIONS WE HAVE RECEIVED HAVE BEEN FOR RESTAURANTS. WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT WITH THESE CHANGES. GIVEN WHAT I HAVE SAID, PROPOSING ANOTHER CHANGE WITHIN SUBSECTION C. TODAY OUR CODE ALLOWS FOR A PASS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS. IN THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY, YOU ARE NEXT TO ANY OF THESE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS, THIS SECTION DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU. WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT

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TALKING ABOUT PLACES LIKE RED LOBSTER, CRACKER BARREL. IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT FRONTING ON TO THESE LARGE CORRIDORS, THESE REQUIREMENTS WILL NOT APPLY TO YOU.

THE PEACOCK DISTRICT, CREATING WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND AVENUE D OVERLAYS.

WHICH WILL ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. BY FAR WITH THE MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AT OUR LAST TWO MEETINGS, THEY HAD A VERY REAL CONCERN WITH LIQUOR SALES.

CONCERNED WITH HOW THOSE THIS REQUIREMENTS WERE APPLIED AND HOW THOSE LICENSES ARE GRANTED.

WE WANT TO RESPECT THEIR WISHES. WE WANT TO HAVE TIME TO RESEARCH THIS MORE. HAVE DEFINITIVE REGULATIONS FOR HOW THEY WILL BE TREATED WHICH ARE UNIQUE DISTRICTS. HAVE TO BE TREATED IN RESPECT TO THAT MANNER.

SO I AM TALKING ABOUT ORANGE AVENUE OUTSIDE OF THE PEACOCK DISTRICT.

THAT IS WHAT I AM PROPOSING. QUITE FRANKLY THE BUSINESSES ALONG U.S. HIGHWAY ONE, ORANGE AVENUE, LARGE ENOUGH THAT WE FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THOSE THIS IS REQUIREMENTS ELIMINATED FOR THEM IN THE SAME MANNER THEY ARE TREATED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THOSE ARE JUST OUR DISTANT REQUIREMENTS. STILL REQUIRED TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE. THAT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. ALLOWING FOR BUSINESSES WITHIN THOSE LARGER QUARTERS, MUCH MORE EASIER PROCESS TO OPEN UP AND FLOURISH.

>> MADAME MAYOR. QUESTION COMES FROM ME, IN TODAY'S TIME SEEING CHURCHES POP UP IN NON-TRADITIONAL SPACES. HOW DOES THAT IMPACT HERE IF LET'S SAY THERE WAS A PLACE THAT SOLD BEER, LIQUOR IN A STRIP MALL, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION MOVING IN NEXT DOOR. HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT?

>> THE NEXT SECTION ADDRESSES THAT. SECTION D IN RED DOES NOT EXIST IN OUR CODE TODAY. IF YOU HAVE AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ISSUED A LICENSE, IN FACT OUR CHURCH COMES IN WHETHER A MALL OR OUT PARCEL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CODE IS NOW THIS CHURCH WOULD COME IN AND THERE BE NO REVIEW AT ALL.

SO THAT PROTECTION THEY WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE, FROM A GROCERY LIQUOR STORE, IT WILL NOT HAVE THAT PROTECTION. THIS IS MIMICKING LANGUAGE WITHIN THE CITY OF PORT ST.

LUCIE. NOT REINVENTING THE WILL. IF YOU ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF SOMEBODY THAT HAS A LIQUOR LICENSE, THAT IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW TODAY.

APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TYPE OF USE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT

HAS ALREADY BEEN ISSUED A LICENSE? >> OKAY.

>> MADAME MAYOR. >> TELLING ME THAT THE CHURCH, VACATE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET WAS A RESTAURANT. THEY WANT TO REOPEN THAT RESTAURANT AND HAVE A LIQUOR

LICENSE. >> IF IT HAS BEEN VACANT ONE DAY AND ONE YEAR, YES, SIR.

>> IF IT IS WITHIN 100 FEET, YES. >> IF IT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A

YEAR AND ONE DAY SUBJECT TO THIS STANDARD, WITHIN 500 FEET. >> PEOPLE NOT GOING TO BE JUMPING TO OPEN A RESTAURANT NOW IN THIS DAY AND AGE. YOU KNOW SO WHEN YOU SAY A YEAR

AND ONE DAY, INCLUDE ALL THAT TIME? >> WHAT THIS MEANS, ISN'T A NO NO, JUST MEANS THEY HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION FROM THIS COMMISSION.

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IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT. >> I DON'T THINK WE KNOW HOW MANY CHURCHES WE HAVE IN THE

CITY. >> A LOT OF CHURCHES. >> WE DON'T REALIZE HOW MANY CHURCHES WE HAVE APPEARED NOT DENY THE CHURCH FROM OPENING THEIR DOORS, GLAD THE OTHERS

HAVE TO COME BEFORE US. THANK YOU. >> I REMEMBER NOW THAT WE DIDN'T SEE THIS, WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IN THIS YEAR'S GATHERING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SATISFIES THE COMMUNITY AND REASSURES THE COMMISSION WE ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING OUT OF LINE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE. A LOT TO TAKE IN BUT YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. SO YOU KNOW WHAT THY ARE WANTING.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT WHAT YOU SAID IS YOU ARE REFLECTING WHAT OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> HAPPY YOU WERE DOING THIS. IN THE PAST WE HAD A LOT OF VACANCIES, SEEMS LIKE IF IT WASN'T A CHURCH OR ARCADE OR SOMETHING GOING IN, WE WERE JUST DOING IT TO FAIL IN SPACES. NOW EVERY SPACE IS A BIG COMMODITY. A SMALL COMMODITY THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE RIGHT WAY.

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP US GIVE US A BETTER SOLUTION AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, NOT ONLY WITH CHURCHES BUT EVERYBODY ELSE. TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF USES AND STILL HAVE THE SAME RESPECT FOR THOSE THAT EXPECT TO HAVE THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY. NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM LINING UP OUTSIDE. AT LEAST A BIG NUMBER. THIS IS PROACTIVE.

THIS IS ALL HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, I CAN SEE THIS BE A BIG ISSUE IN THE COMING YEARS.

I AM HAPPY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

ANYTHING ON THIS ISSUE? >> NO, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE STAFF FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD AND LOOKING AT NEW OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD. >> ONE LAST COMMENT.

EARLY I TALKED ABOUT STANDARDS. PRIME EXAMPLE GOING FORWARD OF STANDARDS WE ARE SETTING.

TO BE CLEAR FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THIS.

>> CONSENSUS IN AGREEMENT. LOOKING FORWARD TO WHATEVER YOU ARE RECOMMENDING FOR PEACOCK PARKS DISTRICT. SEVERAL CHURCHES IN THERE. IT IS GOING TO TAKE SPECIAL

LOOKING AT. PROCEED. >> I WILL GET THERE.

I AM GOING TO BEAT THIS. ALSO ONE MORE CHANGE. WITHIN THE C6 DISTRICT, IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY TO PULL A LICENSE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

OUR MARINE COMMERCIAL. I SAW THAT AS A QUICK FIX WE CAN MAKE.

PART OF THE CHANGE AS WELL. >> RESTAURANTS GRANDFATHERED IN.

>> OPENS UP THE DOOR. THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS SECTION 120 MAY 1, 1997.

SETTLEMENT ZONING DISTRICT. SO WE HAVE DECIDED TO GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK BULLET POINT REFERENCE OF THE CHANGES. STILL WORKING THROUGH THE TEXT, THIS PACKET BACK IS THE TEXT CHANGES TO THAT SECTION. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A TASTE OF THE DIRECTION IN WHICH STAFF IS GOING TOWARDS. ANYTHING THAT PEAKS INTEREST, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE FLUSHED OUT OR YOU HAVE IDEAS THIS IS THE TIME TO GIVE IT TO US.

WE HAVE CHANGES TO STANDARDS. REMOVING THE REQUIRED REAR ALLEY ACCESS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

UITE FRANKLY THIS AREA DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF REALITIES.

DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE IT. REDUCTION OF A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CONTINUOUS LOTS IN A ROWHOUSE GROUP. REFLECTIVE OF THE PROPERTIES

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PROPOSING ELIMINATION OF LOT AREA PER DWELLING REQUIREMENT. MODIFYING THE BUILDING HIGH DEFINITION TO MAKE IT MORE STREAMLINED AND UNDERSTANDABLE BY THE COMMUNITY.

NO COMMENTS?HE SECOND SECTION PROPOSING CHANGES TO CLASSIFICATIONS AND STANDARDS.

STREAMLINING THE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE DEVELOPMENT MORE EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SAYS IF YOU HAVE THIS BUILDING YOU MUST HAVE THIS TYPE OF BUILDING NEXT TO IT.

MORE FLEXIBLE IN OUR COMPATIBILITY. BE SOME REQUIREMENTS BUT THAT EXACT COMPATIBILITY, PROPOSING THAT BE TWEAKED TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY.

QUITE FRANKLY HOW DOWNTOWN IS BUILT, HOW THE RESIDENTIAL IS BILLED.

NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE HOMOGENOUS. YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENCES AS LONG AS THE FEEL OF IT MAKES YOU FEEL AS YOU ARE WALKING OR DRIVING LIKE IT IS ONE COMMUNITY. WE WILL BE LIMITING SOME OF THE STANDARDS WITHIN THAT SECTION.

>> IF I MAY ADD TO REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY, WE DID HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING I THINK SEPTEMBER. TORRENTIAL DOWNPOUR, HURRICANE THAT NIGHT.

WE STILL GOT A FAIRLY GOOD TURNOUT. 50 RESIDENTS WHO CAME.

ESPECIALLY THE REAR ACCESS, REQUIREMENT WAS SOMETHING BROUGHT UP.

THE MAJORITY OF THESE COMMENTS CAME FROM THAT MEETING. ALSO MARIA, OUR ARCHITECT, PLANNER, WENT THROUGH BECAUSE SHE REVIEWS MANY OF THE VARIANCES THAT COME THROUGH OR ALL OF THEM. SO SHE TWEAKED THOSE, EITHER FOUND REDUNDANT OR NOT

NECESSARY. >> GOING BACK. ELABORATE ON THAT.

>> REFRESH MY MEMORY IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS NOW? >> MODIFICATION OF THE

BUILDING. >> OKAY. SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SUBSECTION 2, BUILDING HEIGHT, IF YOU ARE PROPOSING FOR A COTTAGE, SO SOMEWHAT OF A LOSS.

THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDING STRUCTURES. THAT WILL BE PERMITTED TO BE BUILT WITHIN THE DISTRICT. YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A STANDARD BUILDING WHICH IMAGINE A HOUSE WITH A DETACHED GARAGE. THESE LOTS ARE SO NARROW, A LOT OF THESE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PLACED IN THE REAR AS DETACHED. OR THROUGH ALTERNATIVE MEANS.

THINK OF A STANDARD AS A HOUSE. THE SECOND BUILDING TYPE, COTTAGE.

COTTAGE IS BASICALLY THE SAME EXCEPT MORE NARROW AND SMALLER. A ROWHOUSE IS MUCH MORE NARROW BUILDING, THOSE CAN ACTUALLY GO MUCH HIGHER. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL TYPICALLY HAVE THAT DETACHED PARKING. CHEMICAL ROWHOUSE THAT YOU SEE SIDE-BY-SIDE STAFF, TYPICALLY DETACHED GARAGE. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE TYPES OF BUILDINGS YOU WILL FIND IN EDGARTOWN. THE HEIGHT CHANGE WE ARE PROPOSING, FOR THAT COTTAGE HOUSE, A LITTLE BIT MORE NARROW, PROPOSING THAT TIGHT AND THAT HEIGHT ALONE INCREASED, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT TWO STORIES.

THE ONLY CHANGE WE ARE PROPOSING. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ARE RIGHT. WRAPPING UP, THE THIRD CHANGES TO THE CHILDCARE FACILITY REQUIREMENTS. GIVEN HOW THE STATE OF FLORIDA REGULATES DAYCARE'S. NOW ALLOWING FOR PLAY YARD STANDARDS INCLUDED INDOORS,

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JUST IN KEEPING WITH WHAT THE STATUS. THE ALLOWANCES THAT HE GIVES FOR DAYCARE'S THAT OPERATE WITHIN SMALLER LOTS. THE FOURTH, CHANGES TO OVERNIGHT ACCOMMODATIONS. THE FIFTH CHANGE, REMOVAL OF UNUSED TERMS. LIKE THE TYPES THAT ARE USED THAT ON A REFLECTED OF TODAY'S SOCIETY.

THE WAY THAT PROPERTIES ARE USED. REFLECTIVE OF HOW PROPERTIES ARE USED TODAY, BRINGING IT UP TO THE 21ST CENTURY BY USING WORDS AND DEFINITIONS THT MAKE SENSE. ALSO PROPOSING REVISIONS TO DETACHED GARAGE DEFINITIONS.

THE WAY THAT IT IS DEFINED. THAT CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION.

>> JUST TO NOTE, WHEN YOU SEE THIS, BEFORE YOU REVOTE, UNDERLINE.

YOU WILL SEE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. >> DISCUSSION?

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. >> ANYTHING THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE? ANYTHING THAT HAS JUMPED OUT ANTI-BESIDES THAT TIGHT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO WORK AT?

WHEN WE HAVE THE FINAL TEXT? >> IF YOU CAN THINK OF ANYTHING, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. >> PROCEED.

>> THE LAST ONE IS CITY CONGRESS PLAN AMENDMENT AND MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THESE WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE CITY, PROMOTED BY THE CITY, APPLICANT WOULD BE THE CITY. OR WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SHOW YOU. SO THE BUSINESS DISTRICT.

THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE PLAN, HOW THE CENTRAL BUSINESS IS DEFINED.

BASICALLY DOWNTOWN AREA THAT FOCUSES ON A MIXED USE. IT FOCUSES ON HIGHER DENSITY.

FOCUSES ON RESIDENTIAL BUT DONE AT A HIGHER DENSITY. CONDOMINIUMS OR APARTMENTS.

ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE USE, CHANGES WERE JUST BROUGHT WITHIN THIS COMMISSION TO REFLECT THIS TYPE OF USE IN THIS TYPE OF MIX WITHIN THIS AREA.

ALLOWS FOR DENSITY 30 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE PLAN FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> YES, SIR. >> I DON'T SEE ANY TALK OF HEIGHT RESTRICTION?

IN THIS AREA? >> WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WITHIN ZONING.

MY NEXT PART, FUTURE USE AND ZONING. THE PLAN TAXABLE INTENSITIES, TAX ABOUT GENERAL USES. DIRECTS STAFF AND THE COMMISSION THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD WITHIN THESE AREAS, MIX OF USES. THESE TYPE, AND THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. THE ZONING ORDINANCE TELLS YOU HOW YOU HAVE TO BUILD, HEIGHT, SETBACKS. SO AGAIN, THE BUSINESS DISTRICT SAYS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT HAS TO HAVE THESE CHARACTERISTICS. THEY HAVE TO BE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREET. THEY HAVE TO HAVE INTEGRATION VERTICALLY OR HORIZONTALLY.

IT HAS TO HAVE GOOD CONNECTION TO TRANSIT AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.

ALL OF THESE ARE STANDARDS THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS TO HAVE. PUBLIC SPACES, OPEN SPACES.

WIDE SIDEWALKS. RESIDENTIAL USE MUCH COMPRISED, MINIMUM 25 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, FLUSHED THAT OUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT IAL COMPONENT WITHIN THESE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

NOW WE GET INTO THAT ZONING ASPECT. WITH HEIGHTS, SO HEAR THE CENTRAL ZONE, C FOUR, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN DOWNTOWN ARE C4.

STANDARDS THEY WERE BUILT TO. THE PRIMARY ACTIVITY IN THE CITY.

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THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY SIDEWALKS. NOT SUITABLE FOR LOW INTENSITY USES. THE MINIMUM YARD DEPTH OF PROPERTIES, OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN EXISTING STREET, 15 FEET. REQUIRES THESE LOTS HAVE A LENGTH TO THEM IN ORDER TO BE BUILT UPON. INDOOR STORAGE CANNOT BE A PRINCIPAL USE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF ANY BUILDING. YOU CANNOT USE THAT FIRST FLOOR FOR STORING STUFF. YOU HAVE TO USE IT AS A BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE.

NOW THE DISTRICTS WHICH WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA C3, THESE AREAS ACCOUNT FOR GREATER DEVELOPMENT. COMPARABLE TO THE C4 BUT ALLOWS FOR MORE LOW INTENSITY USES. WE DON'T THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. MANY OF THESE CHARACTERISTICS, WE WOULD LIKE TO QUITE FRANKLY UP ZONE THEM TO C4. SO, WHAT DOES THIS AREA LOOK LIKE? THIS FIRST MAP, PLAN AMENDMENT. TWO PRONG PROCESS. FUTURE PROCESS, LARGE-SCALE WHICH MEANS IT ASKED TO GO TO THE STATE. THEY WILL GO SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH THAT FIRST STEP, GOING TO LEG BEHIND SO THE REZONING WILL BE A FEW MONTHS AFTERWARDS.

SO THIS IS THE MAP, EXTENDS FROM THE WATER ALL THE WAY DOWN UP TO SEVENTH STREET.

ENCOMPASSES ONE SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE OF SEVENTH STREET. THE MAJORITY OF THE COLORS ON THIS MAP ARE RED AND MAROON WHICH ARE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

SO WE ARE NOT ENCOMPASSING, ALSO ONE INDUSTRIAL PEACE, TOWARDS THE SOUTH.

I HAVE CLOSE UPS. HERE WE GO. SO WE HAVE CLOSE UPS OF THE WEST, WHAT THAT WEST LOOKS LIKE. YOU CAN SEE ON HERE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN PARTS OF ORANGE AVENUE. THE AREA THAT WE REFER TO AS THE PEACOCK DISTRICT, NOW PROPOSING THAT UP UNTIL 13TH STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT IS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ESSENTIALLY CROSS TRACKS. REFLECTIVE THAT THE C FOUR DISTRICT, EXTENDED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. REFLECTIVE LATER ON, ABUTTING THE OVERLAY. THAT FIRST STEP TO DIVIDE THIS CORRIDOR AS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. AS A MIXED USE COURT ORDER. ALLOW FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SEE IN DOWNTOWN TO SPREAD ACROSS THE U.S. 1. BILLY HAVE A CHANCE TO FLOURISH ALONG ORANGE AVENUE. SOMEHOW THESE MAPS WERE REMOVED.

SO THIS IS A CLOSE-UP ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE EAST SIDE, I HAVE MADE A CLOSE-UP OF THE MAPS ON THE EAST SIDE OF U.S. HIGHWAY ONE AND THE WEST SIDE. YOU HAVE HEAR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL. SO YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE ME BACKWARDS.

ONE MORE. HERE WE GO. THIS IS A LARGER VIEW, OF THE ZONING. WHEN I TALK ABOUT REZONING'S OF THE PROPERTIES, THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. ALL THE WAY NORTH TO CEDAR, ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO HAMPTON.

AGAIN FOLLOWING THAT CORRIDOR OF ORANGE AVENUE ON EITHER SIDE PAST 13TH AND ALL THE WAY TO THE WATER. PROPOSING ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS BE CHANGED TO C4 TO HAVE STANDARD REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THESE CORRIDORS, TO BRING DEVELOPMENT AND OPPORTUNITY FOR MIXED-USE TO BE EXCITED PAST U.S. HIGHWAY ONE WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.

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WHAT SHOULD BE OUR PRIME REDEVELOPMENT LOCATION. DOWNTOWN.

WHAT WE ALL DISCOVERED IS LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT COLORS. THAT CAN REPRESENT DIFFERENT ZONINGS. WE HAVE WATERFRONT, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN TIED TO THAT. FOR SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT AND STANDARDS, DOWNTOWN SHOULD HAVE THE SAME ZONING. THE SAME FUTURE LAND USE. THE FEEL OF OUR DOWNTOWN, YOU SENSE THAT CHANGE WHEN YOU'RE COMING FROM 13TH. ENTERING DOWNTOWN.

U.S. 1, IN ORDER TO GET OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INTERCONNECTED, FOLKS FROM LINCOLN PARK OVER TO DOWNTOWN WE HAVE TWO HAVE THAT ALONG U.S. 1. WE FEEL THAT ORANGE HAS THAT LOOK AND FEEL BUT RIGHT NOW IT HAS C3, REALLY MORE FOR LARGER SUBURBAN STANDARDS.

THIS IS OUR FIRST ATTEMPT TO GET CONSISTENCY. WHAT WILL FOLLOW WILL BE LOOKING AT THE REGULATIONS, THE DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

LIKE TO TIE THAT IN WITH OUR CONSULTANT, RETAIL CONSULTANT, LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CORRIDORS. DONE AN ASSESSMENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT THAT STUDY INDICATES, NOW REFLECTED IN THIS DISTRICT REGULATION AS WELL AS THE TWO OVERLAYS THAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING FOR LINCOLN PARK AND PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT.

JUST THE BEGINNING. LET'S CREATE A REAL DOWNTOWN. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

BRINGING IT TO YOU BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE INPUT FROM YOU WALL.

DO YOU LIKE THIS BOUNDARY? SOMETHING WE ALL CAN AGREE UPN AS OUR DOWNTOWN.

>> AVENUE E ALREADY C4? >> PRIMARILY C3. >> SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE RED

COLOR AND NOT THE BLUE? >> ZOOM INTO THE CLOTHES-UPS. THE BLUE LINE IS WHAT IS THE DISTRICT BOUNDARY. SO THE ZONING IS C LETTER FOUR. NOT PROPOSING DOWNTOWN TO

EXTEND. >> THAT IS WHAT I MEANT. >> THIS BLUE AREA, WHAT WE ARE

PROPOSING TO CHANGE TO C LETTER FOUR. >> NOT ON AVENUE D.

>> I GET THAT. >> THE QUESTION, NOT RIGHT NOW WITH AVENUE D. ANY FUTURE

CONSIDERATION? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WHAT I AM SEEING HERE, SOME AREAS OBVIOUSLY THAT HAVE SOME RED TOO. WHY WOULDN'T WE KIND OF MOVE AROUND? 13TH STREET, WHY WOULDN'T YOU INCORPORATE THAT?

ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL RIGHT? >> THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE. WE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH WHERE OUR BOUNDARIES ARE. WE JUST HAD IT GOING TO SEVENTH. WE HAVE EXTENDED IT TO 13TH. BROUGHT IT FURTHER NORTH DOING FIELDWORK, GETTING A FEEL, WHY IS THE AREA VACANT. IF THIS IS AN AREA YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE OR PERHAPS ENTERTAIN IS INCLUDED IN THE DOWNTOWN, THIS IS WHY.

>> TWO PRONG PROCESS. A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS. TWO FOLD.

FIRST IS WHAT I LIKE TO CALL COMMON SENSE. THIS IS A DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

ISN'T THAT WE ARE CREATING COMMERCIAL, CREATING NEW DISTRICTS, WE ARE CALLING SOMETHING A DOWNTOWN AREA. SO ONLY SO FAR AS YOU CAN GO FROM WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER

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SO GIVEN THAT COMMON SENSE APPROACH, WHAT FEELS LIKE DOWNTOWN, THEN WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE GROUND. WHAT IS RIGHT FOR DEVELOPMENT TODAY.

THIS IS PHASE 1. ISN'T THIS A LATER ON WE ARE NOT GOING TO PROPOSE EXTENDING.

PHASE 1 BASED ON WHAT IS ON THE GROUND. 13TH WAS A DELIBERATE LINE THAT WE DREW GIVEN WHAT IS ON THE GROUND TODAY. AGAIN I LIVE IN THIS AREA.

I WALKED THIS AREA EVERY DAY. IMPORTANT TO ME AS A PLANNER TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY I WORK FOR AND TO EXPLORE THE NEIGHBORHOODS I LIVE IN SO THAT THEY SEE ME AS A PLANNER AND THEY KNOW WHAT I DO WITHIN THESE AREAS. AND THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO ME. SO GIVEN THAT THAT I LIVE IN THIS AREA, I KNOW WHAT DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING IN. I KNOW THE TYPE OF CONCERNS THE RESIDENTS HAVE.

SO THAT LINE THAT WE DREW, REFLECTIVE OF WHAT IS IN THE GROUND.

WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE. AND WHAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. SOME OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THIS 13TH AVENUE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.OESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO CHANGE THOSE TO C4. TODAY LET'S RESPECT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE GROUND. LET'S MAKE SENSE OF THESE BOUNDARIES TO SEE IF THE WORK

AND IF THEY NEED TO BE CHANGED. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. LOOKING AT THE COLORS AND THE MAPS AND THE SQUIGGLY LINES. IT SEEMED LIKE AT SOME POINT, LIKE AROUND ORANGE AVENUE WE CUT THROUGH THE RED AREA. WHY WOULDN'T IT INCORPORATE THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING.

TO ME THEY ARE FACING MAJOR ROADWAYS. ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, ZONE THAT IS DOWNTOWN. WHY WOULDN'T IT BE ACROSS THE STREET? WHY WOULDN'T YOU MAKE THAT FIT? THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME. I CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON 13TH STREET. THAT ONE ON ORANGE AVENUE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

>> DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >> DEFINITELY APPRECIATE PERSPECTIVE OF STAFF. HOWEVER, ON A SEPARATE TRACK, WE HAVE CAPABLE INTERNATIONAL, RECENTLY FINISHED A SPECIFIC ANALYSIS OF OUR ENTIRE DISTRICT.

TO INCLUDE SOME AREAS OUTSIDE THE CRA. AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, AND IDENTIFIED ALL VACANCIES. IDENTIFIED WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES WE HAVE.

WHAT TYPE OF TARGET SHOPPERS COME TO OUR AREA. I BELIEVE IN THAT REPORT WE WILL RECEIVE THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON EVERY PARCEL, EVERY CORRIDOR AS TO HOW WE ZONE IT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION RIGHT NOW.

LET'S LET THE DATA DETERMINE. >> THAT IS COMING OUT SHORTLY? >> JANUARY.

>> WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >> LOOKING AT 13TH STREET, IT HAS TO BE AVENUE D. AVENUE D HISTORICAL, THEY OWN DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW YOU WALK FROM 13TH STREET TO SEVENTH, IT WAS

ALWAYS DOWNTOWN. >> COMMERCIAL. >> THE THING I LOOK AT IS THE PEOPLE WANT THAT BACK. ABLE TO WALK FROM SEVENTH STREET TO 13TH STREET.

I MEAN I AM NOT SPEAKING OF WHAT SOMEBODY TOLD ME, I AS A YOUNG KID, YOUNG PERSON GREW UP ON AVENUE D. SINCE 1924. BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS, AVENUE D NEVER EVER A BAD TASTE

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THEY COME TO AVENUE D TO MAKE IT A BAD NAME. AVENUE D SHOULD BE.

PART OF ITS OWN HISTORICAL DOWNTOWN. >> IF I MAY? WE RECOGNIZE THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE ABOUT LINKIN PARK AND AVENUE D. WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS REVIEW, TIMES WE HAD IT ON THE MAP TOO. OUR FEEDBACK, NOT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. ITS OWN DISTRICT. WITH THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ALLOWS FOR 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE. 3F AR.

BUT IMPLEMENTING OUR DOWNTOWN PLAN, THE RETAIL CONSULTANT THAT IS COMING OUT WITH THEIR FINDINGS ON DIFFERENT CORRIDORS, WE WANT TO GIVE LINKIN PARK, THE PEACOCK DISTRICT, ITS OWN REGULATIONS. THAT FIT AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN LINKIN PARK, IT IS REDEVELOPMENT. HOMAGE TO THE STRUCTURES AND MAKING SURE OUR DEVELOPMENT CATERS TO THAT. IT WOULD NEED AND REQUIRE, THE SETTLEMENT DISTRICT HAS HIS OWN REGULATIONS. SPECIAL ATTENTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT AS

WELL AS THE PEACOCK DISTRICT. > EDGARTOWN INCLUDED IN THIS. >> EDGARTOWN OWN DISTRICT

REGULATIONS. OUTSIDE OF THAT. >> WASN'T THAT WE DID NOT THINK AVENUE D WASN'T CENTRAL TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. WE BELIEVE AVENUE D SHOULD BE ITS OWN WITH ITS OWN SET OF RULES. PRIMARILY CATERED TO ALLOW

AVENUE D, NOT JUST HOW IT SHOULD LOOK, HOW IT IS. >> FIVE OR 10 YEAR PROGRAM.

>> WE ARE WAITING ON THIS. >> THIS IS PART ONE. THEN WE START MOVING TO WHAT

SHOULD AVENUE D AND PEACOCK DISTRICT LOOK LIKE. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

CANNOT HELP THE VOICE IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD ABOUT MAKING SURE WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF PARKING NEEDS AND CONDUCTIVITIES. ANOTHER CHAPTER, IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. CHANGING THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USE IN THE AREA.

ON A STREET OR ABLE TO FIND PUBLIC LOT EVENTUALLY. GOING TO CAUSE US TO BE ABLE TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF SOLUTIONS FOR THAT. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU SAID AND I CAN'T HELP BUT LISTEN TO THE OTHER ISSUES IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.

BUT I THINK THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. WE ARE GROWING UP TO BE ONE HECK OF A SMALL CITY. I AM TELLING YOU WHAT, EXCITING TO KNOW WE ARE OUT AHEAD RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THESE THINGS TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE. WE GET THE SOLUTIONS FIRST.

>> JOHNSON? >> YES. I AGREE.

A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CENTRAL BUSINESS, I DON'T GET INTO NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY MIND. THIS IS THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR ALL RESIDENTS, VISITORS AND THOSE FOLKS COMING INTO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY.

I DON'T WANTED TO GET MIXED INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. ORANGE AVENUE, AVENUE D.

VIRGINIA AVENUE. LOCATED ADJACENT TO YOU KNOW THE CORE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL

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I APPRECIATE STAFF LOOKING INTO THIS AND PROVIDING THIS DELINEATION HERE.

BECAUSE IT IS THE CORE OF OUR DOWNTOWN. I LIKE THE IDEAS.

I LIKE THE RATIOS. EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS INCREASING RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS, LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE COMPONENT, ALL IMPORTANT TO A THRIVING DOWNTOWN ATMOSPHERE. APPRECIATE IT AND I LIKE THE ZONE LAID OUT.

THANK YOU. >> WHERE DOES THIS GO NEXT? WAIT FOR THE STUDY BEFORE THIS

HAPPENS? >> I BELIEVE WE NEED TO WAIT TO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE POSSIBLY CAN BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. IN PRESENTING ANY TYPE OF REZONING. WE WILL HAVE THAT IN JANUARY. ROLL THAT INTO WHAT JAN AND

REBECCA ARE GOING TO DO AND WE WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE. >> THIS WAS JUST A TASTE.

TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK. WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER THAT HE WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AROUND 13TH. THE TYPE OF DIRECTION WE ARE LOOKING FOR TO INCORPORATE THE INFORMATION. ALSO TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK TO SAY, ALSO LOOK AT THIS AREA AS

WELL. >> TO ADD, INDICATED CONCERN, LOOK INTO PARKING.

SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT ON THIS. A LOT OF MOVING PARTS RIGHT NOW. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DISTRICT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. THE REAL MEAT, GOING TO TAKE A WHOLE DAY TO TALK ABOUT I AM SURE. THAT WILL COME, WE COULD BEGIN TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> THE SQL. >> SO MANY PHASES.>> YES. >> GOOD JOB.

>> 1000 STEPS BEGINS WITH THAT FIRST. >> LITTLE CITY TURNING INTO A

NICE URBAN CITY. >> CAN EXCUSE THESE TWO? >> YES.

>> YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. >> THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AT 2:00 THE NEXT ITEM ANNUAL

[d. Annual Review of Boards and Committees served on by the Mayor and Commission.]

THE SPREADSHEET. >> IF YOU GET THE SPREADSHEET, SUGGESTING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. IN THE PAST, WHEN A NEW COMMISSIONER COMES ON WE GIVE THEM WHAT THE OLD COMMISSIONER HAD. SO LIKE TO SHAKE IT UP, SO I HAVE MADE SUGGESTIONS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED YOU TO DO, I AM WILLING TO GIVE UP ANY OF MY COMMITTEES, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD FALL IN LOVE WITH THE COMMITTEE SO MUCH THAT YOU DON'T GIVE IT UP. ALTHOUGH I LOVED EVERY COMMITTEE I SERVE ON.

I HAVE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS, LIKE CONSIDER THIS A ROUGH DRAFT.

NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM ANYBODY WHO HAS A COMMITTEE ALREADY.

BUT THAT MAY BE COMING. IF YOU LET ME GO THROUGH MY SUGGESTIONS.

A STARTING PLACE. SO IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE FIRST, THE CITY'S BOARD, I AM NOT ON THAT ANYMORE. ANY COMMISSIONER CAN SERVE ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, TRANSPORTATION. SO THAT IS NOT REALLY A COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT, JUST SOMETHING THAT I DO BECAUSE I AM INTERESTED IN IT.

WE CANNOT SERVE ON THE SAME COMMITTEE. COULD BE A SUNSHINE VIOLATION.

FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER OR ME. ALSO UP FOR GRAB.

LAND-USE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS MY POLICY COMMITTEE. AGAIN ANYBODY CAN SERVE ON ANY POLICY COMMITTEE. I SERVE ON THE FLORIDA INSURANCE TRUST.

THAT ENSURES THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I WAS APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD.

ELECTED TO THAT BOARD SO THAT IS NOT IN PLAY. SO I SERVE ON THE FORT PIERCE

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THE ROUNDTABLE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD OF DIRECTION, JOHNSON, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THAT. TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, JOHNSON IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT HOW TRANSPORTATION PLANNING GETS SET. FORT PIERCE HAS TWO PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

REALLY IMPORTANT BUT IT TAKES A WHILE TO LEARN. THEN I AM ON THE REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. THAT IS THE ONE I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS LUSTING AFTER IT I AM WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP TOO. SO THEN I AM NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH ALTERNATES RIGHT NOW. THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES DELEGATES, I DEALT WITH THAT ALREADY. LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET ALTERNATES, WE WILL NOT DEAL WITH THAT. FOR COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON, I THINK ALL OF THOSE REMAIN IN EFFECT. THEN COMMISSIONER, ALL YOURS REMAIN IN EFFECT.

COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, SOME SUGGESTIONS. LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET.

COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. ST. LUCIE COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT BOARD, I WILL TAKE THAT.

I WILL ALSO GIVE THAT UP. >> FAIRNESS OF IT. >> I RUN IN THE OLD CITY.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. THE COMMISSIONER, THE SAINT LUCY COUNTY LAND SELECTION COMMITTEE. I AM NOT EVEN SURE THAT IS STILL A COMMITTEE ANYMORE.

IS IT? >> THEY HAVE A MEETING THEY WANT TO SCHEDULE.

>> I PUT COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

TREASURE COAST DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO YOU. THAT IS MY SUGGESTION. NOW YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE

OR DON'T LIKE. >> I LIKE SOME OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

THE CHALLENGE WITH ME WOULD BE GIVING A CHANGE FOR THE PLANNING COUNCIL.

I ENJOYED THAT STUFF. IF I WERE TO TAKE ON THE CHAMBER I WOULD HAVE TO GIVE DOWN UP BECAUSE IT IS DURING THE WORK HOUR. SO I WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY MY

SCHEDULE. >> YES. WILLING TO KEEP THE CHAMBER.

I WAS TRYING TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT YOU KNOW I AM WILLING TO SHARE OR GIVE UP ANYTHING IF

YOU ARE INTERESTED. >> TO BUILD ON THAT, MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE VIRTUAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN THERE. CORE PART OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY COMPONENT.

>> THEY NEED YOU. >> I BECAME THE CHAIR. I WOULD STAY THERE.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE UP THE OTHER TWO. OR I COULD GIVE UP THE OTHER TWO. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? RETIREMENT BOARD I BELIEVE.

>> I AM WILLING TO STAY. JUST TRYING TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE THE OPTIONS.

>> ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD, HAVEN'T STARTED THE PROCESS? REALLY OPEN BECAUSE THE RETIREMENT, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAVE PLEDGED TO BECOME

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A LOT OF TIME INVESTED. YOU HAVEN'T STARTED. FOR ALL THE ISSUES THIS YEAR, IT IS OPEN TO SOMEBODY. THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO GET ON THIS BOARD, TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. TWO YEARS AND EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO GO BACK.

>> I AM NOT STARTED BECAUSE LITERALLY TWO YEARS, EVERY TIME THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE OFFERED, SOMETHING HAS GOTTEN IN THE WAY OF THAT. ARE YOU SAYING YOU NEED TO GIVE

UP THE PLANNING COUNCIL OR YOU DON'T NEED TO? >> I DON'T NEED TO.

I AM WILLING TO. BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE. WILLING TO TAKE ON THE CHAMBER AND THE RETIREMENT BOARD TO DO THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS COUNSEL.

I REALLY ENJOY THAT ONE WOULD WILLING TO SACRIFICE THAT ONE. >> THE COUNCIL ON THE SAME DAY AS COFFEE WITH MAYOR. CONFLICTS WITH THAT. YES, SIR.

>> MY CONCERN IS, AS LONG AS I HAVE KNOWN, THEY HAVE HAD TWO COMMISSIONERS FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, ONE FROM DISTRICT 1 AND TWO. THAT IS A GRAND BOARD.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHY WOULDN'T JUST BE TWO COMMISSIONERS ONLY.

>> IF THE MAYOR WAS THERE, DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE. >> YES, SIR.

>> I KNOW PORT ST. LUCIE GREG ON IT ALSO. HE REPRESENTS THE OLD CITY.

HE BIGGEST THING THERE, I HAVE TO SAY THIS, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION. THIS LAST YEAR, I WAS THERE, ALL THE MEETINGS.

ONLY ONE OR TWO WHERE WE HAD DISTRICT 1 COMMISSIONER ALSO. SO YOU KNOW THE BIGGEST PART IF THAT IS WE ARE THERE AND SUPPORTIVE. I KNOW WHEN COMMISSIONER

ALEXANDER WAS THERE, ALWAYS THERE BEFORE ME. >> VERY FAITHFUL.

>> WELL NOTICED LAST YEAR WE WERE NOT TOTALLY REPRESENTED, THAT CANNOT HAPPEN ANYMORE.

SO WHOEVER MAKES THAT COMMITMENT HAS TO MAKE SURE. NOT ONLY JUST A MEETING A MONTH, ALSO MEETING IN PRE-MEETINGS.T LEAST TWO A MONTH.

WITH BUDGET, WITH REPLACEMENT OF STAFF. MANY MEETINGS A MONTH WHEN YOU

MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO THE FIRE BOARD. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? >> IT IS ALL NEW RIGHT? SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN FAVOR OF, ROUNDTABLE, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ON THAT COUNSEL. TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS KEY. SOMETHING I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. ON THE FIRST WEDNESDAY STARTING AT 2:00 WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OPEN DOOR STUFF I HAVE. IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE

PLANNING COUNCIL, BEING OPEN. THAT IS MEETING. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, STATE

COLLEGE CAMPUS? >> YES. DOING VIRTUAL.

THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWS THE VIRTUAL OPTION. IT WILL BE AT THAT CAMPUS.

>> ON THIRD FRIDAY? >> YES. >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING THAT UP. CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING IN MY MIND.

YOU KNOW I HEAR COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER AND THAT CONCERN IN THE FIRE BOARD.

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THE EDUCATION RESEARCH, I AM FINE WITH THAT DEFINITELY. ONE, TWO, THREE.

FOUR. THE NEW GUY GETTING FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.

>> YES. COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> SIX.

>> I WOULD ALSO GET TO INTERACT WITH OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. GIVE ME A LOT OF GOOD IN MY FIRST TERM, LEARNING FROM OTHERS. I WAS ON THAT PRIOR TO COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. DURING THE BUILDING OF THE SUNSHINE KITCHEN, THAT IS WHAT I DO AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. HAT PROJECT IS DONE. THE COUNTY IS NOT DOING ANY MORE PROJECTS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT ONE ON.

IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS YOU. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, MAYOR YOU USED TO SIT ON THAT. I WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE THAT. IT IS A GOOD GROUP OF FOLKS.

>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT BACK. I REALLY ENJOY THAT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT BACK. >> OKAY.

GOOD. >> THAT IS FINE. >> I WISH I COULD DO IT.>> DO

I TAKE IT BACK? >> EDUCATION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AT THE

BOTTOM.> I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT ONE. >> IT IS ALL YOURS.

>> ST. LUCIE COUNTY LAND COMMITTEE. >> IT HAS TO BE ON THERE.

>> ON IT FOR FOUR YEARS, I HAD ONE MEETING. >> THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY ANYMORE. WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THEY DO NOT MEET.

>> I WOULD BE WILLING IF NEED BE. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> PROBABLY VIRTUAL. >> KIND OF INTERESTING. SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. WHAT ABOUT LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET?

WHICH ONE OF YOU WANTS IT? >> FLIP FOR IT, SIR? >> I MADE SURE THE PONY ON THE COMMITTEE. SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THIS BOARD MEETING.

>> SEPARATE FROM THE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET, SEPARATE. >> WOULD IT BE?

>> PROBABLY WOULD DEAL A LOT WITH IT. THEY MIGHT OVERLAP.

>> YES. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

AS FAR AS LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET, NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT GOES

ON AT THE FACILITY. >> IF ANYTHING GOING TO PREPARE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

THEN THAT WILL COME TO THE BOARD FOR DETERMINATION. >> OKAY.

LEARNING EXPERIENCE. THAT IS ALL I WANT TO ADD TO MY SCHEDULE.

>> GO BACK ON THE FIRE DISTRICT? >> YES, SIR.

>> I THINK MAIN STREET FOR ME. CHAMBER, RETIREMENT BOARD. I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THE OTHER ONE I WAS HOPING TO BE ON FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, TOURISM.

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>> I LOVE IT. >> I CAN SEE WHY FORT PIERCE IS LEFT OUT OF THE LOOP.

>> I AM READY TO GO RATTLE THE CAGES IF YOU WILL GIVE ME THAT BATON.>> NO.

I AM HOLDING ON TO THAT ONE. >> ALL RIGHT. I AM READY TO BATTLE.

>> YOU DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BEEN DOING ANYTHING? >> NO, THEY ARE AWESOME.

GETTING MORE TOURISM TAX IN FORT PIERCE. >> WE ARE BEHIND YOU A THOUSAND

PERCENT ON THAT. >> WHAT DID YOU DECIDE ABOUT THE CHAMBER COMMISSIONER

JEREMIAH JOHNSON. >> I AM GOOD WITH THE CHAMBER. THE RETIREMENT BOARD.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE PLANNING COUNCIL. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER.>> I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HERE. HOLD ON.

OKAY LET'S GO THROUGH THOSE. THEY DO MEET FOUR TIMES A YEAR. THREE OF THE TIMES IN ORLANDO.

SO PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE DAY. I DO LOVE THAT. I KNOW ALL THE PLAYERS COME EVERY TIME WE GET IN TROUBLE IN FORT PIERCE I CAN CALL THE TROOPS AND THEY ARE HERE TO HELP US. PARKING COMMITTEE MEETING EVERY MONTH.

WE JUST STARTED. BUT I AM IMMERSED INTO THAT GROUP.

WE STARTED THE PARKING COMMITTEE. I DO LIKE THAT.

THE FORT PIERCE PORT AUTHORITY LAST YEAR YOU WERE OVERWHELMED. WE HAVE HAD TWO VIRTUALLY.

IN FACT ONE WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM. THROW THAT BACK OUT THERE TO SOMEONE WHO CAN PICK UP THAT. NOW THAT THE MASTER PLAN HAS GONE THROUGH I THINK MOST OF THIS IS GOING TO BE PRETTY EASY. THE RETIREMENT BOARD, I HAVE BEEN ON THAT FOR ALMOST 11 YEARS. BUT I AM A FLORIDA PUBLIC PENSION TRUSTEE. PLUS WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND THE RETIREMENT BOARD, I AM THE ONLY ONE WITH ANY INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.MAYOR YOU HAVE BEEN AT A COUPLE MEETINGS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU ARE A FIXTURE I THINK. >> HOPEFULLY I CAN GET JAY JOHNSON UP TO SPEED. THEN I WILL LET HIM BE THE FIXTURE.

THE INDIAN RIVER TREASURE COAST HIGHWAY, TWO OR THREE OF THOSE. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THAT UP IF I COULD. AGAIN, MY CALENDAR IS GETTING FULL A COUPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF OTHER ISSUES I HAVE HAD. I CANNOT ATTEND THAT ONE. I DON'T THINK I CAN GIVE IT EVERYTHING IT POSSIBLY SHOULD HAVE. ALLIANCE, WHEN THEY NEED ME I WILL BE THERE. THE FIRE DISTRICT. I AM GOING TO SAY THIS, I AM NOT MARRIED TO THE FIRE DISTRICT. I HAVE EXPECTED JAY JOHNSON TO COME IN. SEEMS LIKE HE HAS HIS PLATE FULL.

I WILL GIVE YOU A FORESHADOWING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU THE NEXT TIME WE COME UP FOR THIS. IN YOUR THINKING, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO,

PLEASE ADD IT TO YOUR REQUEST. JAY JOHNSON. >> TO BE DETERMINED.

>> NOW I WAS SAYING THE TWO, THAT I WANT TO DROP, PUT MY HAT IN THE RING, ONE I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT I GAVE UP YEARS AGO. NOT THRILLED WITH THE DIRECTION IT WENT INTO. IF IT IS AVAILABLE OR ALTERNATE I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE

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SUNRISE THEATER. >> WOULD YOU? IT IS YOURS.

>> YOU COULD HAVE PLAYED HARD TO GET.>> I COULD HAVE. >> GIVE UP THE TWO SMALLER

ONES. >> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU START, WE CANNOT TALK TO

EACH OTHER EXCEPT HERE. I DO NOT OWN THAT. >> PLAYING APART BEHIND THE SCENES WITH SHARON AND COMPANY. THINK IT IS A GOOD FIT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, I TOLD HER IF THE COMMISSION WOULD DO SO I WOULD BE GLAD TO COME BACK TO THAT.

>> GOOD. >> IF WE CAN FIND A PLACE FOR THE PORT ADVISORY IN THE SCENIC

HIGHWAY. >> I DON'T MIND TAKING BACK THE PORT ADVISORY.

IT WASN'T MEETING, I THOUGHT THE HEAVY LIFTING WAS ALREADY DONE.

I THINK THAT IS STILL TRUE. >> THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DOES CONFLICT WITH THE FIRE BOARD.

>> YES. IT DOES CONFLICT. IT HAS IN THE PAST.

>> IF YOU WANT IT BACK YOU CAN HAVE IT BACK. I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, I WAS WILLING TO GIVE UP ANYTHING. I WILL GIVE IT UP.

>> IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FOR ME YOU CAN. >> YOU GET THE SUNRISE THEATER.

I GET THE FIRE DISTRICT. >> I PROMISED SHANNON I WOULD BE BY HER SIDE THIS LAST YEAR TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. EXCELLENT JOB. WILL SAY THAT.

THE ONLY THING I HAVE REQUESTED IN THE FUTURE, DO A COMPLETE WORKSHOP ON THE RETIREMENT PLAN

WHICH I AM SURE YOU'RE GOING TO ENJOY. >> THANK YOU.

THAT MEANS I HAVE TO GIVE UP THE PORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. NOW IN HORSE TRADING.

>> I AM PASSIONATE, MY FATHER WAS ON THE PORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAY BACK WHEN.

HIS INTENTIONS, ABSOLUTELY. I AM VERY PASSIONATE. >> I KNEW THAT.

IT IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, UP TO SEVEN NOW. >> YOU GOT TO TAKE OVER FOR ME

AS HAVING THE LONGEST LIST. >> TWO OPENINGS. INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

SCENIC HIGHWAY COMMITTEE. REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. >> THAT IS ME.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT. >> I THOUGHT ALEXANDER, GOING TO DO THE LINKIN PARK MAIN

STREET? >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? >> SCENIC HIGHWAY. >> IN MY DEFENSE, I HAVE TO SAY THIS. A RELATED, RELATED TO THE CITY. I AM TAKING ON, THE REBUILD AT JC PARK. I AM HEADING UP THAT COMMITTEE. RELATING TO THE CITY.

GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MY TIME THIS YEAR PLUS MY WORK WITH TREASURY COMMISSION ON A COUPLE OF DEALS WE ARE EXPANDING. LOOKING AT MY TIME AND SAYING, GETTING TOO BUSY.

SO IF YOU CAN HELPED ME WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE FINE. >> SCENIC HIGHWAY, I WILL TAKE

THAT. >> I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOAD UP. >> I AM LOADED QUITE A BIT.

>> THE OTHER ONE NOT ON HERE, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE. I AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE THAT.

NOT A FORMAL ONE, THE WAY IT STARTED. CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

>> THAT FITS WITH FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET. WHILE WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS

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YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THAT RIGHT? YOU MEET WITH IT? IF ANOTHER COMMISSIONER CAME IN, THAT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SWEENEY, WHAT IS AN OFFICIAL MEMBERSHIP ON THE COMMITTEE AND WHAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE INTERESTED. I MEET WITH THE FORT PIERCE

BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE. I AM NOT A MEMBER. >> THIS PORT APPOINTED ME TO

THE PARKING COMMITTEE. >> IS THAT RIGHT? >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I AM THERE OFFICIALLY. >> OKAY. I DO NOT KNOW THAT.

I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE INTERESTED ACTUALLY.> IF I MAY BRIEFLY, WE HAVE ONE OFFICIALLY APPOINTED. IF ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WERE TO COME, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

>> I THINK COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON, ASKED ME IF I WAS GOING TO BE THERE FOR A MEETING. WE KNOW THAT. TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE.

>> I AM NOT APPOINTED TO IT I JUST MEET BECAUSE I AM INTERESTED.

IF ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WANTED TO COME, I WOULD HALF TO NOT GO THAT PARTICULAR DAY.

>> MR. SWEENEY, CREATES HAVOC IN THE WORLD THAT YOU LIVE IN LEGALLY, IF WE WERE TO BE A FLY

ON THE WALL AND NOT SAY A WORD, WHAT IS THE ISSUE?>> THE GREATEST OF GRAY AREAS

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> OF COURSE IT IS. >> THE STANDARD IS TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF A BOARD, ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS BEATING IN AN ITEM LIKELY TO BECOME FOR YOU FOR ACTION, THAT IS WHY I ALONG WITH MR. MIMS, WHEN YOU RECEIVE AN EMAIL PLEASE DO NOT REPLY ALL REPLY TO EACH OTHER.THAT IS THE ENGAGEMENT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, MEMBERS OF OTHER AGENCIES AND COMMISSIONS. FOR THE WONDERFUL CEREMONY WE HAD LAST WEEK, TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THEY WERE NOT INTERACTING, SIMPLY A FLY ON THE WALL BUT IF THERE WAS ONE COMMISSION ON BOARD PARTICIPATING IN THE OTHER COMMISSIONER COME UP AND SAY I HAVE BEEN THINKING, THAT PRESENTS THE PROBLEM.

IT IS A VERY FINE LINE TO WALK. DAD SAID IF TWO OF YOU APPOINTED AND PROPERLY NOTICED AND FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES FOR SUNSHINE, NOT A PROBLEM. TWO MEMBERS ON THE FIRE BOARD.

SO DOES THAT GIVE CLARITY SIR? >> YES, IT DOES. ABSOLUTELY.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, WE GET INVITED. THAT IS A GREAT AREA.

WE OFTEN ATTEND EVENTS THAT WE ARE ALL AT, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

LIKE GOING TO A RESTAURANT. A CLEAR ISSUE. BUT I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT IN THIS FORM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON IS HERE.

THESE THINGS ROUTINELY OCCUR. FOR NONPROFITS, ADVOCATING, TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR CITY.

NOT A MATTER OF RECORDS. YOU KNOW FOR ME, I ASKED THE COMMISSIONER THAT DAY, DID YOU ATTEND? I DON'T NEED TO MAKE MY COMMENTS.

IF HE WASN'T I WOULD GO MAKE MY COMMENT. >> MADAME MAYOR? DURING THESE MEETINGS, YOU JOIN THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE BOARD. HEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY WANT THEIR ITEM TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION. WE ALL GET TO WEIGH IN.

A FORM OF COMMUNICATION THAT ANYBODY SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON. THE VIOLATION RIGHT THEN. ALREADY GOING TO BRING THIS UP

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THE GREAT AREA COMES UP. >> AS YOU MAY KNOW, I HAVE TAUGHT THE ETHICS CLASS.

SEVERAL TIMES. HIS SISTER TIPPED IN, INVITED ME THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

THIS QUESTION COMES UP ALL THE TIME, PUBLIC OFFICIALS. ALSO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

SOMETIMES WE MAY EVEN BE NEIGHBORS ESPECIALLY IN SMALLER COMMUNITIES.

THEY SAY ARE YOU TELLING ME I CAN'T GO TO THE SAME CHURCH MY FRIEND AND I HAVE BEEN GOING TO TO THE LAST 50 YEARS.UST DO NOT SIT IN THE SAME TO YOU NEXT DOING.

PERCEPTION IS REALITY. I WANT TO ALWAYS ADVISE YOU OF THAT.

YOU ARE ALL COLLEAGUES BUT JUST THE TWO OF YOU MAY BE HAND ON HIS SHOULDER STANDING OUTSIDE OF A NEW BUSINESS TALKING WITH THE OWNER, ONLY TAKE SOMEBODY TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH ONE OF THESE DEVICES TO START SOMETHING. ALWAYS BE AWARE.

>> EXCEPT RIBBON CUTTING. >> PERCEPTION REALITY. >> WE DON'T WANT TO BE

SEBASTIAN. >> PROPERLY NOTICED, ON THE SAME BOARD, NOT THE ISSUE.

HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. >> LET ME BE CLEAR, THE BOARD IS ALWAYS SOMETHING I HAVE SHOWN UP FOR. THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE MAYOR SAYS ON THAT.

>> YES. >> WATCHING ON TV, DIFFERENT THAN THE PUBLIC.

IF YOU WERE SITTING IN THE FIRST OR SECOND ROW, ATTENDING, THAT IS WHERE THE THRESHOLD IF

YOU WILL. >> DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BUT Ã WAIT UNTIL YOU GO TO YOUR FIRST

FOUR HOUR ETHICS CLASS. >> THIS WEDNESDAY? >> YES, IT IS.

>> YES, SIR. >> YES, SIR. >> I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU.

WE STILL NEED TO DO ALTERNATES. >> OKAY. >> UNLESS WE WANT TO SAY

WHOEVER USED TO BE ON IT SERVES AS ALTERNATE. >> LOTS DO THAT.

NOW I AM THE FULL-FLEDGED MEMBER, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS MY ALTERNATE, IS THAT ALL

RIGHT? >> YES. >> FOR LINKIN PARK MINISTRIES,

COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER IS THE MAIN, C JOHNSON ALTERNATE? >> YES.

>> REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER IS THE ALTERNATE RIGHT?

>> ROUNDTABLE, MAYOR? >> YES. >> SAINT LUCY COUNTY LAND

ACQUISITION, J JOHNSON CURRENT ALTERNATE. >> REMAIN.

>> SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD? >> I CAN REMAIN.

>> TREASURE ALTERNATE FOR THE PLANNING COUNCIL. >> FINE.

>> TPO DOES NOT HAVE ALTERNATE. >> I PUT MYSELF AS THAT. >> PERFECT.

>> WE ARE COMPLETE.GOT WHAT THE WANTED. >> COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO READ. A COMMENT THAT I RECEIVED THIS MORNING FROM CHRISTINA WHILE ON BEHALF OF DESTIN BEACH INCORPORATED PRIVATE LANDOWNER, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE

[04:30:04]

NEXT STEPS DISCUSSIONS WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE

DISCUSSIONS. >> ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS CHAD, LINKIN PARK. , TALK TO YOU TODAY. CHANGING THE DENSITY RULES.

ADDING DUPLEXES TO SOME OF THE SITES. TALKING ABOUT R4.

ALL SEEN AS SEPARATE PARTS, A LOT WORK TOGETHER. IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A BUSINESS RECEIPT LIVING IN R FOUR AREA IF YOU DON'T DO REMOTE WORK. IF YOU'RE NOT AN ACCOUNTANT, NOT WITH COMPUTER IT CAN'T DO THE THINGS PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO HUSTLE TO MAKE MORE MONEY. SO YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE CELEBRATE HERE, NONE OF THEM COULD HAVE WORKED IN THAT AREA MAKING ANY MONEY UNDER THE RULES YOU GUYS HAVE SET UP. PUTTING BOXES, MORE DUPLEXES. NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF BOXES WITH PEOPLE WHO CANNOT WORK AND HUSTLE TO GET OUT OF THOSE BOXES.

PHIL LINKIN PARK WITH MORE DUPLEXES, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL LITTLE BOXES.

NO STYLE. ALL OF THE FACES THAT YOU ARE SAYING, THEY DON'T MAKE WHAT YOU GUYS LEGISLATE THESE INNOVATIVE DESIGN PLANS, WHERE THE HOSES HAVE TO BE FACED EACH OTHER. HAS TO BE MADE LIKE THE COMMUNITY.

SOMEHOW ELEVATING WHAT IS THERE. I FEAR THAT DUPLEXES, STICKING THEM INTO THOSE PLACES, BE ADDING MORE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT WALMART.

NOT OPENING UP THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS. NO MICRO BUSINESS PROGRAMS SO PEOPLE WHO ARE STARTING IN THEIR HOUSES CAN GENERATE ENOUGH MONEY.

TALKING ABOUT PAYING RENT AT YOUR HOUSE, RENT AND A COMMERCIAL SPOT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE NOW HOUSING, THAT ARE MORE DETRIMENTAL TO THEM GETTING OUT. IF YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO RUN THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, OR GET A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN YOUR UNIT. PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SMALL BOXES, WITH THREE OR FIVE PEOPLE, IF YOU CHECK THE CODE, NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANYTHING OUTSIDE. YOU CANNOT HAVE VISITORS. SO YOU HAVE A LOW WAGE WORKERS,

NOT ALLOWING TO GET UP AND OUT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR STAYING THROUGH

THIS. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE?

PLEASE COME FORWARD. WE WILL CLOSE THIS PART. >> CITY COMMISSION BOARD

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

COMMITTEE UPDATES. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.> MAIN STREET DOING WELL. TRYING TO BATTLE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING VIRTUAL EVENTS. HANG IN THERE. TRANSPORTATION, LAST MEETING APPOINTED TO THE CHAIR POSITION. THE CITY WAS GOING TO BECOME A VICE CHAIR BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS UP NEXT. WE HAD TO REARRANGE.

A LOT OF GOOD STUFF HAPPENING. EVERYTHING ELSE. IT IS FUN, EXCITING.

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THE PLANNING COUNCIL. THE MASTER PLAN PRESENTED AT THE COUNCIL.

SIMILAR AS IT WAS TODAY. DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. A LOT OF THUMBS UP, A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT FROM OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND COMMUNITIES.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

>> WITH MY COUNSEL, WE HAD A MEETING, LARGEST COMPONENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

TAKEN OVER BY THE COUNTY. OTHER THAN THAT, I HAD A CONFLICT.

I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING. THEY HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING.

I HAD EQUIPMENT, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT WAS IT.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> ADVISORY, BEEN KIND OF TOUGH GETTING A QUORUM. WE FINALLY GOT A QUORUM.

ONE WAS OFFICIAL. I WILL SAY THAT IT IS ABOUT TIME FOR ME TO INVITE THEM NEXT YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING. THEY ARE PROVIDER, PART OF THE CONSORTIUM FOR ELECTRIC SERVICES. PLUS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

GOOD TIME YOU ARE HERE TO HAVE JACOB WILLIAMS TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING.

PARKING COMMITTEE, WE HEARD ABOUT THAT. THE MASTER PLAN WE WENT THROUGH. PERFORMED POSTRETIREMENT, THIS IS BACK THIRD QUARTER.

THE PLAN HAS $212.5 MILLION IN IT. VERY HEALTHY.

EXCEEDED THE QUARTER IN OUR PERFORMANCE. ON TARGET FOR 1.8 PERCENT OVER ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE ANTICIPATED. SO RETIREMENT SYSTEM IN HEALTHY SHAPE.

MOVING ON TO THE FIRE BOARD, INCREASING STOCK, DISCUSSION ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO RESPOND TO THE GROWTH HAPPENING IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. MAS, YOU THINK WELL WE GO GET A FIRE TRUCK. FIRE TRUCK COSTS SOUTH OF 600,000 DOLLARS.

THEY CANNOT FINANCE THESE THINGS. PLUS WE ARE TALKING FIRE STATIONS AND REPLACEMENT IN PORT ST. LUCIE. THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THAT, THE COMBAT CHALLENGE TEAM FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WON THE WORLD, NOT THE NATIONAL, NOT THE LOGO. ESPN HAS CALLED THAT THE TOUGHEST TWO MINUTES IN SPORTS.

WHAT THEY DO, I GET TIRED TO WATCH. BEN TALK ABOUT BRINGING THE WORLD TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WE WILL BE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT WILL NOT DO IT ANYWHERE ELSE BUT RIGHT HERE AT OUR WATERFRONT. THAT WAS SUCH A BIG SUCCESS.

I WILL SAY THAT THE SPORTS COMMISSION, WE HAD TO SCOOT THIS WEEKEND.

ALTAR, WE ALMOST CANDIDATE THINKING NOBODY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE TIMES OF

[04:40:11]

IT FEATURED FOLKS FROM NOT ONLY OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA BUT OUTSIDE OUR COUNTRY.

THEY FLEW HERE TO BE HERE AND THAT WAS JUST AMAZING TO ME. >> ALL VERY WELL PLANNED.

>> MAKES EVERYBODY RUN FASTER. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE.

>> DID YOU PARTICIPATE? >> INTERESTING TO KNOW WITH CONTRACTING COVID-19 EARLIER ON, EVERYBODY THINKS TWO WEEKS AND YOU ARE DONE. I AM TELLING YOU I AM JUST NOW

ABLE TO GET MY MILEAGE UP. >> WE COULD DO A REALLY. >> THE LEAGUE OF CITIES HOSTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. HE IS COMING THIS WEDNESDAY.

EVERYBODY INVITED. OF COURSE WE DO HAVE THE COUNCILWOMAN THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. SHE WILL BE PRESIDENT, IMPORTANT ANNIVERSARY OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. 75 OR 100.

CELEBRATING BIG ANNIVERSARY. GOING TO BE A STAR FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY IN THAT WORLD.

TOMORROW UTILITY AUTHORITY. CONSIDERING THREE MINOR INCREASES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE COST OF LIVING. DISCUSS TOMORROW. I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> FOLLOWED UP WITH THE CUTOFFS, GOT THE REPORT. I AM SURE YOU GOT IT ALSO.

THAT 900 OR SO SET UP, BY THE TIME IT ENDED UP, THEY HAD LESS CUTOFFS THIS YEAR THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR THIS TIME. BY THE TIME EVERYBODY PAID AND WAS ABLE TO FIND RESOURCES TO COME AND HELP OUT. THE END OF THAT STORY, WE DO NOT CUT 900 PEOPLE.

>> LESS THAN 50. >> MANY OF THOSE 50 ABANDONED HOUSES.

>> I SAID SO WHAT DID WE DO LAST DECEMBER THIS TIME? 137.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

AND COMMENT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.

FOLKS GOT ALL THE SERVICE AND ALL THE HELP. >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WE ARE GOING TO GET A REPORT TOMORROW BUT WE DID EXTENDED, THE DEADLINE TWICE. EACH TIME WE SAID PLEASE GO OUT AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS REACHED AND EVERYBODY GETS THE HELP THAT THEY NEED. THE COMBINATION OF THAT EFFORT PLUS SOME PEOPLE NOT GOING TO PAY UNTIL THEY HAVE TO PAY. SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT

REPORT TOMORROW.>> I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THAT. TRULY CONCERNED.

I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT. SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT STEPPED UP.

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WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO SEE A MASS CUT OFF DURING THIS TIME OF YEAR.

SO IT IS GREAT TO HEAR AND I WAS REFRESHED WHEN I HEARD THAT NUMBER WAS WAY LESS THAN WHAT WAS REPORTED. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW YOU SIT ON THE AUTHORITY BOARD, YOU APPOINTED. I HAD CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS WITH THAT.

IN LIGHT OF THINGS THAT HAVE SURFACED. WONDERING ESPECIALLY WITH ME BEING A NEWBIE, HOW DO WE LOOK AT THAT? WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT?

CHANGE LEADERSHIP. >> INTERIM. ED KILEY.

ACTUALLY TWO SEATS, ONE CANDIDATE THAT HAS BEEN ON IT MOVING FROM ONE SLOT TO ANOTHER. ANOTHER SEAT, ENCOURAGED SOMEBODY TO APPLY AND I HOPE BECAUSE THE SEED RIGHT NOW IS SOMEBODY WHO EITHER LIVES IN THE AUTHORITY OR WHO IS MEETING OTHER CRITERIA. THE PERSON I ENCOURAGED MAY MEET THAT.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE INPUT, THAT YOU ARE WELCOME TO MEET WITH THAT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WELCOME TO SUGGEST NAMES, YOU AND I CANNOT MEET TOGETHER WITH THE DIRECTOR.

CERTAINLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR YOU TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO.

>> THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE. LARGE PART OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT IS SERVED IN THE AREA.

THE GREAT MAJORIT OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I TOO HAVE REACHED OUT TO RECOMMEND SOMEONE APPLY FOR THOSE POSITIONS

. >> I AM JUST TEASING. >> YOU HAVE A MAIL.

>> THAT IS WHO YOU NEED TO TALK TO. >> I THINK I AM DONE.

ARE WE READY TO ADJOURN? >> MOVE OUT TO THE

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