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TEAM BUYING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS TO DO HOMEOWNERSHIP IN LINCOLN PARK BY ALLOWING PEOPLE PURCHASING PROPERTY FROM US AND HOLDING THE NOTE AND BE THE BANK.

SOME OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE SUCH EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF LIENS AND FINES CONTINUE TO THAT IT OVERSEES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND ASKING FOR REDUCTION TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR MY PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> OFF BLESSED DAY.

>> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM 12 A BE PULLED. THAT WAS A DEMOLITION HEARING.

AND IT RECENTLY CHANGED HANDS AS OF THIS MORNING AND THE OWNER IS ALREADY MAKING GREAT STRIDES IN BRINGING IT INTO

COMPLIANCE. >> TERRIFIC.

GOOD NEWS. ANY OTHER ADDICTION DIGS OR DELETIONS. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE AS SET. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> THOMAS PERONA: YES, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> UNDER MISCELLANEOUS REPORTS,

[a. 2020 Parking Study Update presented by Walker Consultants. ]

THE 2020 PARKING UPDATE BY WALKER CONSULTANTS.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

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WE HAVE CONSULTANTS WITH WALKER CONSULTANTS WHO HAVE WORKED WITH US ON A COUPLE OF ITERATIONS.

AND THE WORK IN 2020 IS A UPDATE THAT WAS DONE TO THE ORIGINAL 2016 PARKING STUDY. THAT PARKING STUDY CENTERED ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE BEACH AREA.

THE AREAS WE WERE HAVING SIGNIFICANT PARKING CHALLENGES.

AND, OF COURSE, EVERY YEAR, OUR PARKING SITUATION CHANGES.

AND WE HAVE HAD -- WE NOW HAVE THESE GENTLEMAN THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE US THE UPDATE THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN PRESENTED TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE. AND NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CITY COMMISSION TO HEAR THIS PRESENTATION AND WE ALSO HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE, BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION AND THE PARKING COMMITTEE AFTER HEARING THIS PRESENTATION.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: WELCOME, GENTLEMEN.

AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF WHEN YOU START SPEAKING, THAT WILL HELP

US. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TODAY. NOT ONLY WILL WE INTRODUCE OURSELVES AND SHOW YOU PICTURES OF OURSELVES.

>> MAYBE. >> IS THIS WORKING?

>> MAYBE. >> THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE WALKER CONSULTANTS.

I AM TOM ZUPKA. COLLEAGUE JIM CORBETT, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR WALKER CONSULTANTS AND THE THIRD MEMBER OF OUR TEAM BOBBY MORDENTI COULDN'T BE WITH US AND HE IS IN CHICAGO WHERE HE LIVES.

HE WAS A GREAT HELP TO US AND HOPEFULLY TO YOU IN THE VISUAL PRESENTATION OF SOME OF THE GRAPHICS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT AND SOME OF THE SLIDES WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU TNIGHT. OUR INTENT IS NOT TO TAKE A TON OF YOUR TIME TONIGHT, BUT WE WANT TO BE AS THOROUGH AS YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO BE AND WE ARE NOT MARRIED TO THIS SLIDE DECK.

IF WE NEED TO STOP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, PLEASE INTERRUPT US.

WE CAN GO ON ANY TANGENT OR DIRECTION THAT YOU CHOOSE TO.

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. QUICK STUDY METRICS ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WHAT JIM HAD PERFORMED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND SOME OF THE UPDATES HERE.

IN TOTAL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND PRIMARILY THIS PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE THEREIN. LITTLE OVER 2,000 SPACES.

25% ROUNDABOUTS IS CONSIDERED ON-STREET PARKING SPACES AND THE REST WILL BE OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES.

OFF PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF INVENTORY AND I HEARD IT SAID AND MENTIONED BEFORE IT IS NOT A PARKING PROBLEM.

IT IS A -- WELL, THE WAY WE SAY IT IS A WALKING PROBLEM.

I HAVE HEARD OTHER ITERATIONS FROM OTHERS AROUND HERE.

YOU GOT PLENTY OF SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

JUST A MATTER ARE THEY LOCATED IN THE RIGHT SPACES OR HOW WILL THEY BE MANAGED. WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT YOU HAVE POTENTIAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS, INVENTORY CENTERED AROUND COMMUNITY PARTNER, INCLUDING THE COURTHOUSE AND SOME OF THE OTHER INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE LABELED THERE.

AS A CITY, YOU ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECONFIGURE SOME LOTS. AND GET ADDITIONAL PARKING INVENTORY THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED.

JUST BY CHANGING SOME STRIPES ON THE GROUND.

WE WENT THROUGH AS PART OF OUR PROCESS INTERVIEWING SOME ST STAKEHOLDERS TO GET KIND OF A FEEL WHAT FOLKS THINK OF PARKING AND THE SENSE OF DESPERATION AND HOPE.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LABEL THAT DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO.

AT THE END OF THE DAY AS YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE HERE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT A PAID PARKING PROGRAM BE CONSIDERED.

OF THAT, 694 PROPOSED PARKING SPACES WOULD BE IN A 800-FOOT WALK OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE AND WE WILL GET INTO THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS. WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT.

OF COURSE YOU HAVE THIS WONDERFUL ASSET HERE JUST A FEW HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM US. THIS GARAGE THAT MAYBE ISN'T AS UTILIZED AS IT COULD BE, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE PROPOSE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INVENTORY THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER UTILIZED. THE NICE PART IS AS PERCEPTION WOULD ENTAIL. IT IS TOO FAR.

REALLY WITHIN A THREE-MINUTE WALK OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

AGAIN, IT BECOMES A MATTER OF -- NOT ONLY EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AND PUTTING IT IN PERSPECTIVE AS TO THE ASSETS THAT YOU ALL HAVE HERE IN THE CITY.

THIS IS A QUICK VISUAL OF THE INVENTORY.

YOU WILL FIND THIS IN THE REPORT.

AND, OF COURSE, ON THESE SLIDE DECKS, BUT THE BASIS OF WHICH WE STARTED. JUST A DIFFERENT LOOK AT HOW THE INVENTORY YOU HAVE IN -- IN THE CITY DOWNTOWN AREA IS,

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WHETHER IT IS ON-STREET OR OFF-STREET AND WE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS IN ORANGE WHERE YOU CAN GAIN ADDITIONAL SPACE US THAT CURRENTLY HAVE BUT THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED PART OF YOUR INVENTORY. WAY WE LOOK AT THIS IF IT IS A PARKING SPACE IN THE AREA IT IS POTENTIAL INVENTORY WHETHER THE CITY HAS CONTROL OF IT OR NOT. IF IT IS A PRIVATE PIECE OF LAND, IT IS CERTAINLY ACCESSIBLE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS OR OWNERS OF THAT LAND.

WHEN WE THINK OF THE PROCESS AND US AS CONSULTANTS.

WHEN WE WANT TO LOOK AT SHOULD YOU DO PAID PARKING OR NOT.

JIM AND I ARE FORMER OPERATORS FOR MUNICIPALITIES IN PRIVATE SECTOR. YOU LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT. WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IN A COMMON SENSE IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

THE BASIC LAWS OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

THIS CHART, IF YOU CUT IT IN HALF, FIRST TWO CIRCLES HOW YOU MANAGE THAT INVENTORY. YOU INSTITUTED TIME LIMITS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN. AND THAT IS EFFECTIVE TO A POINT. WHEN THAT NO LONGER BECOMES EFFECTIVE, THEN YOU -- NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO MOVE INTO THAT PRICING MODEL, RIGHT. AND LETTING THE MARKET HELP MANAGE THE INVENTORY THAT YOU HAVE.

SO THE PRICING CAN BE DONE IN A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

IT CAN BE TIME OF DAY. IT COULD BE -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE CERTAIN RATES AT CERTAIN HOURS OR HOURS OF OPERATION WHERE YOU CHARGE AND OTHER TIMES IT IS GRATIS OR FREE. PEAKS DURING THE WEEK.

WEEKENDS FREE. , ETC.

AS WE ALL KNOW IN FLORIDA, OUR POPULATION BECOMES SEASONAL AND A LOT OF WAY TO ATTACK THE PRICING MODEL.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FIRST TWO -- THE TIME LIMITS AND THE PRICING REALLY HELPS TO MANAGE THE INVENTORY AND YOU LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE LOCATION THAT'S YOU CAN ENCOURAGE THE USE OF UNDERUTILIZED AREA. NOT A PARKING PROBLEM BUT A WALKING PROBLEM. BY HAVING THE PRIME REAL ESTATE MANAGED THROUGH TIME LIMITS AND PRICING, THE EXTERIOR AND LESS FAVORABLE PARKING SUDDENLY BECOMES MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE AND ARE MORE PRICE SENSITIVE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THEN YOU CAN GET INTO START OF USING TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A CITY THAT IS GOING TO HAVE THE MASS TRANSIT OF A NEW YORK OR CHICAGO, OF COURSE.

BUT IT ENCOURAGES THE USE OF ADDITIONAL METHODS IF -- IF YOUR PATRONS WANT TO AVOID THE CHARGE FOR PARKING OR THE TIME LIMITS OF PARKING AS YOU HAVE PUT IN PLACE.

EVEN IN A SMALLER SCALE, IT'S A PARK AND RIDE CONCEPT.

KEEPING THE PARKING TO THE EXTERIOR AND MAYBE HAVING MICRO TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES, BIKES, SCOOTERS, PEDICABS OR ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT CAN BRING FOLKS FROM THE LESS DESIRABLE WHICH IS BASICALLY FURTHER OUT PARKING INTO THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

I SEE HEADS NODDING SO I WILL CONTINUE.

ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND GET IN THE REAL WEEDS IF WE GO LINE BY LINE.

I WON'T DO THAT UNLESS YOU WANT TO CALL SOME OF THEM OUT AND WE CAN DISCUSS. ULTIMATELY WE RECOMMENDED A PAID PARKING PROGRAM AND SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS GEARED TOWARD THAT. ALSO, YOU KNOW -- IT ALSO INCORPORATES THE IMPROVED USE OF THE CITY GARAGE FOR AN EMPLOYEE PROGRAM AND JURY PARKING OVERFLOW.

THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TECHNOLOGY TO HELP FACILITATE MANAGEMENT AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW POLICIES SHOULD THEY BE ADOPTED. BRINGS IN A RECOMMENDATION FOR BEACH DISTRICT. PAID PARKING FOR BEACH DIS DISTRICT. ALL OF THAT BE CENTERED AROUND HAVING A THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT.

IT BECOMES EVEN IN A -- IN A 2,000-SPACE FOOTPRINT, IT CAN BE CUMBERSOME TO MANAGE FROM AN IN-HOUSE PERSPECTIVE.

AN OPPORTUNITY ARRIVES AS HIGHER PROFESSIONALS WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING TO MANAGE IT ON A THIRD-PARTY BASIS AND THIS CAN BE ARRANGED IN A NUMBER W WAYS BUT PUTS THE BURDEN OF HIRING, FIRING, STAFFING, COLLECTIONS ON THAT THIRD PARTY ON YOUR BEHALF. HANDS IT THEN LEADS INTO THE INVENTORY PERSPECTIVE. CAN YOU RECONFIGURE -- ADD ADDITIONAL INVENTORY WHEN YOU BECOME A PAID PARKING MODEL.

YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE NUMBER OF REVENUE GENERATING PARKING SPACE, AS WELL AS PROVIDING THOSE EXTERIOR FREE PARKING SPACES TO EMPLOYEES AND JURORS OF -- IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

SO WE WANT TO BENEFIT EVERYBODY IN THAT ASPECT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PARKING DISTRICTS.

A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THERE AS WELL.

IF -- IF WE HAVE TIME AND AT YOUR DISCRETION, WE CAN GET

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INTO, YOU KNOW -- WE DID RECOMMEND THAT WE ADJUST THE IN LIEU PAYMENT PROGRAM. THE REPORT IS UPDATED.

WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT YOU HAVE TO ADJUST THE IN LOU IF SURFACE PARKING IS THE GOAL. THE IN LOU PRICE IS ABOUT RIGHT FOR SURFACE LOT PARKING. PURPOSE TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL GARAGE-TYPE PARKING. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH AS FAR AS CONVERTING THAT INTO THE APPROPRIATE DOLLARS. SO LET'S GET INTO THE PAID

PARKING -- >> MAYOR HUDSON: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UNDER CITY HALL GARAGE. ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN THAT GARAGE WAS BUILT ONE OF THE THINGS -- I WASN'T HERE THEN.

IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME, BUT I UDERSTOOD THAT THE CITY -- THIS WAS -- THIS WAS BUILT BY CITY HALL BUT FOR THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN. AND YOU SAY EMPLOYEE PARKING -- ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEES OR ANY EMPLOYEES.

>> ANY EMPLOYEE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WHEN THAT GARAGE WAS BUILT, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN IT WAS BEING BUILT IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO INCREASE ITS EMPLOYEES AND THE ONLY EMP EMPLOYEES WOULD PARK THERE OR THEN EVENTUALLY WE WOULD CHARGE OTHER PEOPLE WHEN IT WAS JUST FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE CITY HALL EMPLOYEES. SO, YES, IT IS THE CITY HALL GARAGE. IT WAS BUILT BY US, BUT A GARAGE BUILT FOR ALL OF DOWNTOWN.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR ALL OF DOWNTOWN.

AND IT WAS ALSO PROBABLY BUILT BECAUSE THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE WAS JUST ABOUT TO BE AWARDED HERE.

AND THAT PERHAPS WAS KIND OF A SWEETENER, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY EVER CONFIRMED THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE PUBLIC'S CLARIFICATION THIS ISN'T JUST EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. THESE ARE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN DOWNTOWN AND WANT TO PARK THERE IS WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING -- IS

WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL, RIGHT? >> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND I WILL SAY THIS NOW SO I DON'T FORGET LATER. WHEN YOU INSTITUTE A PARKING PROGRAM, IF ANY RESISTANCE TO IT.

OFTEN THERE IS RESISTANCE. IT IS USUALLY LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES WHO SAY WHAT ABOUT ME.

I AM A BARTENDER, A WAITRESS. I DON'T MAKE BUT MINIMUM WAGE AND THAT PUTS A BURDEN ON ME. WHEN WE SAY EMPLOYEE PARKING, THE EXACTLY THE EMPLOYEES -- OFFERING THEM AN ALTERNATIVE --

>> MAYOR HUDSON: EMPLOYEES OF ANYTHING DOWNTOWN.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. RECONFIGURING THE SQUARE.

A CROSSY AREA AND A CRAFT MARKET ON SATURDAY MORNING.

ARE YOU TALKING OF PAVING THAT WHOLE AREA NEXT TO THE LIBRARY, IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN OF RECONFIGURING MARINA SQUARE?

>> YES. AGAIN, THAT IS NOT A TECHNICAL DRAWING BUT A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING WE PUT ON THERE.

THE GRASSY AREA MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO GET RID OF.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: A CONCEPT. ONE THE THINGS MA MAY HAVE BEEN IN HERE THE HANDICAP PARKING ASPECT.

DO YOU ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE ARE HANDICAP.

THEY NEED NEAR PARKING SPACES. >> WE HAVE NOT.

HOWEVER THE CITY -- THE STATE CODE MANDATES A CERTAIN PERSPECTIVE. SO THAT IS AND JIM, WHY DON'T YOU MENTION THIS. OUR MUNICIPAL EXPERIENCE IS YOU PUT IT IN THE BEST AREAS THAT YOU CAN BUT THE REQUIREMENT IS ONE PER 150 ON-STREET SPACES AND OFF-STREET IS AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN TO THE DESTINATION. IN THE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE DESTI DESTINATIONS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I KNOW BUT FOR OUR AGING POPULATION WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND ALSO CONCERNED -- AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER THE AGING POPULATION, THE PAID PARKING THEY ARE GOING TO USE A CREDIT CARD OR USE THEIR SM SMARTPHONES AND THIS IS DAUNTING FOR SOME PEOPLE.

DAUNTING. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO

KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> SURE.

YOU WANT TO ADD. >> JIM CORBITT WITH WALKER CONSULTANTS. TOM DID MENTION CORRECTLY, ONE PER 1 50 SPACES ON EVERY -- AND EVERY ON-STREET SYSTEM.

FEDERAL GUIDELINES RECOMMEND AS MANY AS ONE PER BLOCK FACE AND I BELIEVE, THERE ARE ALSO REQUIREMENTS ADJACENT TO EVERY GOVERNMENT BUILDING AN ADA SPACE TO SERVICE THAT GOVERNMENT BUILDING AS WELL. WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RECOMMENDATION -- AGAIN, A RECOMMENDATION ONE FOR BLOCK FACE YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY HAVE AT EVERY INTERSECTION.

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88 SPACES AT EVERY MAJOR INTERSECTION IF I SAID THAT CORRECTLY. TWO -- RIGHT.

THOSE ARE JUST MEANT TO BE GUIDELINES AT THIS POINT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT AND I KNOW IT IS FEDERAL LAW AND I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

>> NOT TO BRUSH OFF THE PAYMENT METHOD.

THE TECHNOLOGY CAN BE INTIMIDATING AND DAUNTING AND THAT'S WHERE -- ON THE UPPER LEFT CORNER THERE, THE COMMUNICATION PROGRAM BECOMES SO VITAL AND ESSENTIAL TO ROLLING THIS OUT FOR NOT JUST AGED POPULATION BUT ANY POPULATION. YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS SEEM EASY, STEP BY STEP, PROVIDE GRACE PERIODS.

AGAIN, GETTING IN THE WEEDS OF HOW YOU WOULD IMPLEMENT, BUT ROLLING IT OUT IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT FRIENDLY OR GRACE PERIODS. WE DON'T WRITE CITATIONS RIGHT AWAY. WE GIVE GRACE PERIODS AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR PEOPLE TO GET USED TO THE PROGRAM AND FEEL GOOD AND FIND OUT HOW EASY IT IS, IT BECOMES MORE

PALATABLE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY, THANKS.

>> SO GETTING INTO THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM.

AGAIN, THE CRUX THE PRESENTATION AND MOST OF THE SLIDES, WE LOOK AT IT FROM STARTING AS A LEVEL OF SERVICE CONCEPT, OKAY. AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS WHAT IS THE BEST SERVICE YOU CAN GET VERSUS THE WORST SERVICE. WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM. WE HAVE A WALKING PROBLEM.

THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO YOUR DESTINATION. IF WE PUT THE DOWNTOWN CORE AS THE CENTER DESTINATION HERE -- THIS IS WHERE BOBBY DID A GREAT JOB OF DRAWING THE GRAPHICS OF THE RADIUS.

BY THE GRAPH YOU SEE IN GREEN IS LEVEL OF SERVICE A WITHIN A 400 WALKING RADIUS, 133 SECONDS AVERAGE WALKING SPEED AND THE YELLOWISH GREEN, CALL IT YE YELLOW, 800-FOOT WALKING DISTANCE WITHIN THREE MINUTES AND LEVEL OF SERVICE D, 1200 FEET AND JUST UNDER FIVE MINUTES AND YOU SEE THE TECHNICAL AVERAGE WALKING SPEEDS.

IT GETS IN THE WEEDS. WE DID OUR HOMEWORK ON THAT.

YOU CAN THEN TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SPACES YOU HAVE IN EACH CONTEXT, OF COURSE, ON-STREET, OFF-STREET, WHICH LEVEL OF SERVICE. THE LEVEL OF SERVICE A YOU HAVE 207 SPACES. IN IDEAL PROXIMATE TOYMENT DOWNTOWN AND GETS EVEN GREATER. YOU LOOK AT 1400 SPACE WITHIN THE FIRST TWO LEVELS OF SER SERVICE.

THAT IS NOT A PARKING PROBLEM AS MUCH AS IT IS A WALKING PROBLEM. SHOULD I STOP SAYING THAT NOW? [LAUGHTER] GET T-SHIRTS MADE, RIGHT.

AS WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT CONCEPT, WE LOOK AT -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONSIDER A PAID PARKING ZONE, LET'S KEEP IT TO THE TOP TWO LEVELS. LEVEL OF SERVICE A AND B.

AND WITHIN THAT YOU GET ON-STREET AND OFF-STREET COMBINATION OF 694 TOTALS. RIGHT.

OUR CONCEPT IN WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS NOT JUST ON-STREET PAID PARKING BUT OFF-STREET PAID PARKING AS WELL.

OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT PRIVATE BUSINESS OR PRIVATE LAND CHOOSES TO CHARGE FOR NOT CHARGE, BUT FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, THE LAND YOU DO CONTROL, THAT SHOULD BE A PAID PARKING THAT IS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, OKAY.

NOW THE ON-STREET PARKING SHOULD CARRY A PREMIUM BECAUSE ON STREET IS TYPICALLY. AN INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICE ACROSS PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION MODELS.

THAT SHOULD BE THE PREMIUM AND HIGHER CHARGE AND OFF-STREET SHOULD BE A LESSER CHARGE. OKAY.

AS LONG AS IT IS WITHIN THAT ZONE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SO FAR? OKAY.

AND THEN THIS NEXT SLIDE THEN IS WHAT WE WILL CALL THE EMPLOYEE PARKING ZONE. AND, AGAIN, ALL THE EMPLOYEES NOT JUST CITY EMPLOYEES, THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND AS BEING THE FREE PARKING. AND THIS WOULD BE THE TEMPLATE TO SERVE UNTIL SUCH THAT DEMAND GROWS.

AND YOU PUSH EVERYTHING OUT, RIGHT.

SO THAT CORE BECOMES THEN POTENTIALLY EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE OR IT IS PAID PARKING PLUS TIME LIMITS.

FURTHER OUT MAYBE A LESSER CHARGE OR SAME CHARGE WITH NO TIME LIMITS. AND FURTHER THAN, THAT BECOMES FREE. AS THE CITY GROWS, THAT BECOMES THE MODEL. IT KEEPS IS EASY.

IF YOU TRY TO MAKE POCKETS OF CERTAIN AREAS AND ASPECTS, IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT IS DIFFICULT TO COMMUNICATE TO YOUR PATRONS.

AGAIN, YOU WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

MOST PEOPLE WE FIND WILL BE HAPPY TO PAY -- MOST PEOPLE, ONCE THEY GET USED TO IT. I KNOW A BROAD STATEMENT.

AS LONG AS IT IS EASY AND CONVENIENT.

WE WILL ALL PAY $20 TO PARK AT . WE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, BUT WE WILL PAY FOR IT. IF IT IS EASY AND WE ARE HUNGRY TO GO TO THAT EVENT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT EASY,

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CONVENIENT, AND THEN PROVIDE THESE ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE BUSINESSES LOCALLY.

NOW THE OTHER THING WE -- WE EXPLORED WAS THE EFFECT OF THE KINGS LANDING. THAT IS ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDER THAT'S WE CHATTED WITH THAT IS POTENTIALLY VERY BIG IMPACT TO YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA. AND WHAT THAT IS GOING TO DO IS CREATE A SECONDARY CENTER OF INFLUENCE OR A DESTINATION POINT. SO AS YOU SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC, AND YOU SEE THE GRAPHIC IN THE REPORTS AS WELL, YOU CREATE THOSE TWO LEVEL OF SERVICES AND THEY OVERLAP.

AND SO THAT BAND IN THE MIDDLE REALLY BECOMES VALUABLE BECAUSE IT IS A PRIME SPOT THAT CAN GO TO EITHER LOCATION.

AND IF YOU ARE A VISITOR OR A RESIDENT THAT IS COMING TO DOWNTOWN TO ENJOY YOURSELF, POTENTIALLY YOU GO DOWNTOWN TO THE THEATRE AND TAKE A WALK TO HAVE DINNER OR SHOPPING OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT BECOMES MORE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, VALUABLE REAL ESTATE WHEN IT COMES IN TERMS OF PARKING. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KEEP THAT IN -- IN YOUR MINDS THAT WHAT WE RECOMMENDED IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO START. BUT THIS MAY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AND EVOLVED AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME.

AND HOPEFULLY IT IS NOT JUST KING'S LANDING.

HOPEFULLY THERE ARE OTHERS TO FOLLOW AND YOU HAVE THIS

PROBLEM THROUGHOUT. >> MADAM MAYOR?

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR? > I LIKE THESE TWO GRAPHICS AND ONE THAT TRANSITION. ONE ABOVE THE WORD "DOWNTOWN" JC PENNEY PARKING LOT. BISTRO PARKING LOT, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACK NEAR RIVER DRIVE.

GOT THAT ARE TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PARCEL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARKING.

A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE -- NOW OFF THIS GRAPHIC.

YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, IF YOU COULD.

I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT YOUR BLUE LOTS HERE IS WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TO BE THE EMPLOYEE RECOMMENDATION, IDEA, RIGHT? OUTER BAND --

>> ANYTHING IN THAT ORANGE AND OUTER.

YES, JUST SURFACE PARKING LOTS THAT -- THAT LOWER BLUE BOX IS

THE CITY GARAGE. >> IS THE GARAGE.

IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE GARAGE.

SORBRY TO MAKE YOU FLIP BACK. WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SHOWN. A LOT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BISTRO PARKING LOT. THE CENTROID OF THE CITY.

THE CENTER THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

IT WOULD DO US WELL TO GO VERTICAL THERE.

OVER TIME. YOU TALKED OF THE PAID PARKING WOULD HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED IF WE WERE TO GO VERTICAL BECAUSE SURFACE LOTS ARE EASIER TO PAY FOR.

>> ONLY IN LIEU OF PAYMENT. SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN, THERE IS NO IN LIEU

OF TO CONSIDER. >> THAT IS RIGHT.

THE OTHER CONVERSATION POINT BECAUSE THIS IS THE CENTROID.

WE BECOME IT AS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER AND A MULTISTORY BUILDING FOR DEVELOPMENT AND NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER SPOT FOR PARKING. YOU KNOW THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE GRAPHICS CORRECT. AND YOU ARE RIGHT, THE IMPACT OF KINGS LAND SOMETHING GOING TO BE -- WE ARE GOING TO FEEL -- LANDING IS GOING TO BE. AND, GOING TO FEEL IT.

A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE WHEN IT HAMS. OUTSIDE OF THAT, ANYTHING ELSE -- WAS THERE ANY OTHER SURFACE LOT IN THE -- IN THE FIRST CIRCLE MODEL TO THE SOUTH? ANYTHING ELSE AS WE VENTURE SOUTH -- NOT THE IMPACT OF KINGS LANDING PER SE. BUT ANYTHING SOUTH OF THAT -- HERE IS MY OTHER QUESTION. A TWO-PART QUESTION.

ANYTHING FURTHER SOUTH AND KINGS LANDING IMPACT RADIUS THE CORRECT RADIUS. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MADE THEM THE SAME AS FAR AS THE RADIUS. YOU DREW CIRCLES THE SAME SIZE.

>> THE INTENT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

IF KINGS LAND SOMETHING THE SPOT, 800 FEET IS THE GOAL FOR PARKING. WE TRY TO CENTER THE CIRCLE RIGHT ON KINGS LANDING. IT MAY BE MORE OR LESS

DEPENDING -- >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THAT IS FINE. THE CIRCLES DON'T CHANGE INTENSITY BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR

SIZE I SHOULD SAY? >> THE DEMAND MAY BE MORE, BUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WILL BE THE SAME.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: BALL LEVEL OF SERVICE, OKAY.

>> MADAM MAYOR, A QUESTION OF THAT LINE.

WITH KINGS LANDING I THOUGHT THEY HAD THEIR OWN PARKING.

>> A PROPOSED ONE. >> IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ON THIS SCHEMATIC OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, PARKING OPTIONS, RIGHT? SO YOU RIGHT NOW ARE LOOKING AT -- I THOUGHT YOUR FIRST SLIDE WAS CLOSE TO 2,000 SPACES WHEN

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YOU TOOK UP TOTAL INVENTORY. THAT IS NOT INCLUDING WHAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN FOR KINGS LANDING?

>> NO, IN FACT THAT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE PART OF THE INVENTORY ARE THE UNPAVED SURFACE LOTS WHERE KINGS LAND SOMETHING GOING TO GO. THOSE GET PULLED OUT BECAUSE THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN -- YOU ALSO -- DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF USE MODEL THEY WILL HAVE, WHETHER RETAIL, HOTEL OR RESIDENTIAL MAY DETERMINE THE ACTUAL DEMANDS.

THAT IS GOING TO FLUCTUATE. WILL THEY BUILD ENOUGH PARKING FOR THEIR NEEDS AND THEN THE NEEDS OF, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY AS IT INTERSECTS WITH DOWNTOWN, RIGHT?

>> I GUESS I AM LITTLE CON CONFUSED.

WHEN THEY PULL OUT -- AND MR. MAYOR, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME THERE. WHAT IS THE IMPACT WITH KINGS LANDING GOING IN AND OUT THERE. YOU SAYS IT INCLUDED IN THAT BUT WILL PULL IT OUT ONE IT COMES IN.

HOW MUCH ARE WE LOSING? >> THESE THREE LOTS -- THE

THREE BLUE LOTS AT THE TOP. >> I SEE THEM, YES

>> THE UNPAVED SURFACE LOTS THAT YOU USE TODAY.

WE HAVE ESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT THOSE COULD BE.

BUT AS THE KINGS LANDING DEVELOPMENT SITE, THOSE, I BELIEVE, ARE PART OF THE -- AT LEAST LOT -- I BELIEVE THAT LOT 11 AND 12 ARE PART OF THE KINGS LANDING FOOTPRINT.

>> I SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY. LOOKING AT THIS MAP.

BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE AREA -- THAT AREA WHERE IT IS UNPAVED.

THAT IS NOT WHERE KINGS LANDING IS GOING.

>> PARTICULARLY BY THE RAILROAD TRACK.

THE ONE THERE -- I DON'T THINK THAT IS.

IS THAT PART OF THEIR PROJECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

THE BACK SIDE.

>> THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS. >> THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS.

>> THE NORTH SIDE OF MORRIS CREEK.

THOSE ARE PARTS OF THE PROJECT. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM UNCLEAR ON. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: JUST NOT FENCED IN WITH THE FISH ON THE

FENCE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE TO GO OVER THE SLIDES SO FAR? I AM GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND HAND IT OVER TO JIM.

GIVE YOU A BREAK FROM ME FOR A MINUTE.

>> THANKS. OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES AGAIN.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO SHARE WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS WERE IN THE PROCESS HERE. CONSIDERING THERE IS A BUY-IN FOR THE CONVERSION TO -- FROM PAID PARKING SYSTEM.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER REALLY TO BE MORE LOW HANGING FRUIT INITIAL OBJECTIVES THAT SHOULD BE PURSUED AND PRIMARILY ON THAT LIST THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THE CITY CHARTER ALLOW WITH THE CHANGES YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT.

PAID PARKING ZONE FOR ON-S ON-STREET.

PAID PARKING LOT. MAKE SURE IT IS SPELLED OUT IN YOUR CHARTER SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION WHERE FEES FOR PARKING SHOULD BE COLLECTED. THE OTHER PART OF THAT REALLY IS THE PARKING FINE RESOLUTION. WE FIND THAT A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES WILL IMPLEMENT PAID PARKING WITH A PARKING FINE THAT IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO ADJUST BEHAVIOR.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, LET'S JUST SAY WE ARE TALKING $1.50 AN HOUR IN THE CORE AREA AND SOMEBODY COULD PARK IN THAT CORE AREA FOR EIGHT HOURS. SO THEIR PARKING FEE FOR THE EIGHT HOURS WILL BE $12. JUST SIMPLE MATH THERE.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKING FINE IS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH SO SOMEBODY SAYS I AM JUST GOING TO FORGO PAYING FOR PARKING AND TAKE THE CITATION HIT.

I WOULD LIKE TO LAY THAT OUT, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ISN'T ALWAYS COMMUNICATED VERY WELL.

BUT I THINK THAT IS A VERY CRITICAL PIECE BECAUSE YOU GET INTO THE GAME THAT I AM NOT GOING TO PAY MY CITATION AND YOU USE THE PRIME REAL ESTATE TO PARK IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FREE OF CHARGE WITHOUT ANY PENALTY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPELL THAT OUT AND REQUIRES THE VALUATION OF WHAT THE FINES ARE WHATEVER YOUR RATE RESOLUTION ENDS UP BEING. MAKE SURE THAT IS SAY PROP YACHT THERE. THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL HERE FROM THE BEGINNING IS AND TOM MENTION THIS IDEA OF PURSUING A TH THIRD-PARTY MANAGEMENT CONTRACT. YOU WILL WANT TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS OF TALKING AND DEVELOPING A RFP FOR PROFESSIONAL PARKING OPERATOR. THERE ARE PROBABLY A GOOD FOUR OR FIVE REPUTABLE PARKING OPERATORS WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT WORK ALL UP AND DOWN THE ATLANTIC COAST AND THE GULF COAST AS WELL THAT DO HAVE REGIONAL SUPPORT HERE, WHICH CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING CRITICAL.

IF YOU CAN HAVE A LOCAL PRESENCE FOR YOUR TEAM, YOU CERTAINLY WOULD WANT THAT. YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING IN FROM CALIFORNIA LEAVING YOU HIGH AND DRY THERE.

YOU WANT THAT LOCAL RESOURCE. AND THE LAST TWO IS REALLY THE

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TECHNOLOGY PIECE. AS SOON AS YOU CAN BEGIN THAT PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THE RFP FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY PIECE, YOU WANT TO GET THAT VETTED. AND THEN AS TOM TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY, COMMUNICATION PROGRAM. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THE COMMUNICATION PROGRAM IS, NOT FROM THE INITIAL ANNOUNCEMENT AND A LOT OF FOLKS FIGURE IT IS GOOD ENOUGH BUT HOW DO YOU KEEP FOLKS UPDATED DURING THE PROCESS.

AS A RESIDENT I MAY NOT COME DOWNTOWN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING FROM ONE WEEK TO THE NEXT.

IF THERE IS A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT.

YOUTUBE VIDEOS AND INSTR INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS ON WEB SITES THAT PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION, BUT AS LONG AS YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THAT COMING SOON AND HERE IS WHAT THE INEVITABLE CHANGES WILL LOOK LIKE, THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY FOR ME IF I NEVER BEEN IN A PAID PARKING ENVIRONMENT.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM DAY ONE.

THIS IS REALLY THE INITIAL THINGS TO PURSUE HERE.

AS WE TALK INTO THAT NEXT PHASE OF KIND OF THE SIX-MONTH TO 12 MONTH. YOU ARE COMING UP ON THAT FIRST YEAR. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RFP UP WHETHER FOR THE MULTISPACE METER THAT'S WE ARE SEEING MORE PREVALENT VERSUS A SINGLE SPACE METER.

BOTH SYSTEMS HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO ACCEPT ELECTRONIC PAYMENT AS WELL AS COIN ONLY PAYMENTS.

WHERE WE SEE THE INDUSTRY MOVING MORE TODAY IS MOVING TOWARD THAT ELECTRONIC PAYMENT OPTION AS THE SOLUTION.

AND MAYOR AS YOU RECOMMENDED, THAT CAN BE DAUNTING FOR SOME FOLKS IF THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TYPE OF SITUATION.

BUT IT IS THE TYPE OF SITUATION AS MORE FOLKS BEGIN TO SHOW EACH OTHER HOW EASY IT IS WHEN THEY ARE ON THE STREET AND ASSUMING YOU WOULD HAVE AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM LAUNCHED, FOLKS ON THE STREET TO COMMUNICATE AND WORK WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT IS HOW YOU GET THERE A LOT MORE QUICKLY THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ROLLED THIS OUT AND NOW WHAT TYPE OF APPROACH. SO THAT IS A KEY PIECE.

AS I MENTIONED THE PARKING OPERATOR.

YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT IDEALLY IN PLACE.

ONE OF MORE EARLIER THINGS THAT YOU DO.

YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH SOMEBODY WHO CAN TAKE THE HEAVY LIFT OFF OF THE CITY'S SHOULDERS, BUT WORK IN TANDEM WITH THE CITIES AND THE CITY'S BROAD PLAN FOR LAUNCHING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION PIECE. A NUMBER ITEMS SPELLED OUT THERE OF -- OF -- WITHIN COMMUNITIES DISTRIBUTE THAT MARKETING COLLATERAL WITH TA TABLE-TOP INFORMATION AND ALL OF THE RETAIL STORES AND RESTAURANTS.

AS EVERY PATRON STEPS FOOT INTO THOSE ESTABLISHMENT IT IS PRETTY EVIDENT. YOU PICK ONE OF THOSE UP AND TAKE IT WITH YOU. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE THERE IS THE PERMIT AND ENFORCEMENT SOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGED WITH ITS ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES, BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROGRAM EFFICIENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT. AND I HATE TO USE THE TERM "ENFORCEMENT" OR "LAW ENFORCEMENT" IN THIS CASE.

MORE COMMONLY ACCEPTED FOR THE AMBASSADORIAL APPROACH.

A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY TO DRESS DOWN THAT PERSON SO HER NOT IN A LAPLE TYPE UNIFORM WITH PATCHES ON THE SLEEVES BUT MORE OF A FRIENDLY AND INVITING TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.

MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT DOUBLES AS A DOWNTOWN GUIDE THAT SAYS A RESTAURANT DOWN HERE. A COFFEE SHOP DOWN HERE.

SOMEONE THAT IS HELPING TO COMMUNICATE YOUR MESSAGE TO THE VISITOR AND RESIDENT WHO COMES DOWNTOWN.

>> COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF I CAN GO BACK TO THAT SCREEN.

>> SURE. >> THE FIRST TWO ON THE L LEFT-HAND SIDE THERE. IS IT YOUR EXPERIENCE AND RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PUT OUT TWO SEPARATE RFPS? OR ARE THERE COMPANIES THAT OFFER THE MANAGEMENT AND THEY

AFTER THE TECHNOLOGY COMPONENT? >> HERE IS WHAT WE FOUND INTERESTING. THERE WAS A TIME WHAT YOU JUST SAID WOULD BE THE PREFERRED OPTION, BUT I THINK BRINGING THE OPERATOR TO THE TABLE FIRST.

MANY OPERATOR ALSO COME WITH THEIR RECOMMENDED SOLUTIONS AS WELL. SO YOU COULD DO A JOINT RFP IN THAT SENSE, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW -- HOW YOU WANT IT SET UP. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU GET INTO AN OPERATOR CONTRACT AND THE OPERATOR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THE RFP GOES OUT TO BID FOR THE RENEWAL AND MAYBE THEY DON'T RETAIN THE OPPORTUNITY AND A NEW OPERATOR COMES IN, NOW THAT TECHNOLOGY PIECE MAY BE TIED TO THAT ORIGINAL OPERATOR IF THE RFP WENT WITH THAT OPERATOR. TECHNOLOGY I THINK WOULD YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT WITH THE CITY SEPARATE SO YOU HAVE CONTROL OF THAT. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THAT. BUT MANY OPERATOR ALSO COME TO THE TABLE WITH THAT KIND OF THAT PURCHASE COLLATERAL, IF YOU WILL, TO KIND OF HELP THE CITY ACCOMPLISH SOME OF ITS GOALS FINANCIALLY. SO I THINK I DANCED AROUND THAT

PRETTY GOOD. >> I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A

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DIRECTION ON WHICH ONE TO PUT FIRST.

>> DEFINITELY YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR PARTNER IN FIRST.

BY ALL MEANS. BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO HELP YOU. NO DOUBT.

>> COMMUNICATIONS. COMMUNICATIONS, YOU ARE RIGHT.

THAT IS VERY DYNAMIC. YOU HAVE TO DO A VERY GOOD JOB UP FRONT. HOW ABOUT LONG TERM.

MY QUESTION. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, DO CITIES DO CREATIVE THINGS LIKE PAINT THE PARKING STALLS WITH BLUE STRIPES RATHER THAN THE WHITE STRIPES TO SAY THESE ARE ONE OF THE PAID PARKING STALLS ACROSS THE CITY?

>> I MIGHT SEE THAT MORE IN KIND OF A RESORT KIND OF BEACH ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T KNOW FINESSE TSARLY SEE THAT IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT OR A DOWNTOWN CORE, REASON BEING, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY COSTS INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL.

BUT WHAT I MIGHT SEE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU ARE GOING WITH A MULTISPACE PAY STATION TO WHERE YOU COVER UP THAT PAY STATION WITH A -- WITH KIND OF A VINYL COVER THAT HAS A "COMING SOON" KIND OF LOGO ON IT.

AS YOU ROLL OUT CERTAIN PAID PARKING BLOCKS, STREETS, AV AVENUES, YOU WOULD SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVE THOSE AND SO -- YOU ARE INTRODUCING IT KIND OF EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO AND KIND OF A ROLLING GRAND OPENING, FULL, I GUESS IN THAT SENSE. AND, AGAIN, THAT IS ALL PART OF THAT COMMUNICATION ASSISTANCE THAT SAYS, HEY, I CAN SEE WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE COMING SOON, BUT GUESS WHAT, COME JULY 1, I KNOW THAT SECOND STREET WILL BE THE FIRST ROLLOUT THERE.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE OTHER PART, COMMUNICATION NEVER ST STOPS. WE HAVE VISITOR THAT'S THANK COME TO OUR TOWN. JURORS THAT COME TO DOWNTOWN.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA THOSE ARE PAID PARKING STALLS.

>> RIGHT. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: ON OUR PART TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THAT MESSAGE.

>> YEAH. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: IT GETS -- OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GO TO YOU A CITY YOU FIGURE IT OUT, SOMETIMES THE HARD WAY. I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WAYS AND METHODS -- MEANS AND METHODS TO CONTINUE THIS

COMMUNICATION. >> I THINK YOU WOULD BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO KNOW WITHIN A SIX TO NINE-MONTH WINDOW THAT KIND OF FEAR GOES AWAY.

ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU GET UP TO THAT -- WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR NOW. IT IS -- YOU KIND OF HAD A CYCLE THROUGH, FULL, AND IT GETS COMMUNICATED WITH THE OTHER NEARBY TOWNS THAT THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT IS OCCURRING IN FORT PIERCE. IT BECOMES MORE OF A KNOWN OPPORTUNITY, I GUESS, FULL. WE ALL STRUGGLE WITH CHANGES IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. I AM IN THE SAME BOAT.

YOU KNOW -- BUT THEN YOU BEGIN TO FIGURE IT OUT AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES TO GO ON.

BUT WHAT I WILL ADD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS -- YOU KNOW, AS TOM MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ON THIS GRACE PERIOD. IF SOMEBODY COMES INTO THE TOWN 18 MONTHS AFTER PAID PARKING HAS BEEN OPERATIONAL AND THEY ARE A VISITOR, COULD YOU HAVE A KIND OF A ONE-TIME PERMISSION, YOU KNOW, WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE PAY STATION WORKS AND WILL GIVE YOU AN INFORMATION PACKET SO IN YOUR NEXT FUTURE VISIT TO DOWNTOWN, YOU WILL HAVE AN UNDERSTAND OF HOW THINGS WORK. I HAVE SEEN SOME COMMUNITIES DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY GO TO FORT PIERCE AND GET THAT O ONE-TIME EXCUSE AND YOU ARE OKAY.

BUT THERE IS A BALANCE THERE. THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO INITIATE THOSE KIND OF F FEEL-GOOD, YOU KNOW -- OR NEXT ONE IS ON US KIND OF A SITUATION THAT PEOPLE AREN'T -- THE LAST THING YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GO AWAY WITH IS FIST CL CLENCHED AND A PARKING CITATION WHERE THEY SIMPLY DIDN'T

UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM. >> MADAM MAYOR, THIS HAS BEEN A LIVED EXPERIENCE FOR ME THIS PAID PARKING.

I RESIDED IN CHICAGO PRIOR TO MOVING BACK HOME AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND HOW CITY ENACT ORDINANCES HOW THEY HAD SIGNAGE UP TO LET PEOPLE KNOW IF YOU WERE USING ELECTRONIC APPARATUS WHAT APP TO DOWNLOAD. HOW TO PUT A CREDIT CARD THERE AND INSTANTLY BEGIN TO PAY FOR PARKING.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PART AND THAT -- I HAVE MY OWN CHALLENGES WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES TO US AND FORT PIERCE AND BRINGING THAT ALONG, BUT MY CONCERN IS GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS THAT SOME OF THOSE WEREN'T DELINEATED BASED ON COLOR CODES AND, ETC, ETC.

IF I UNDERSTAND YOU RIGHT. AN AMBASSADOR IS GREAT A SINGLE PARKING. I READ SOMEWHERE IN THE WEEDS OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT THERE WILL NOBODY CURRENCY COLLECTED.

I DID UNDERSTAND THAT? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO COINS AND MAYBE DOLLARS. AND MY CONCERN WOULD BE SOMEONE NOT ON THE RADAR GRID THAT HAS A CREDIT CARD AND PREFERS NOT TO USE A CREDIT CARD AND SLIP A FEW DOLLARS AND STICK THE

TICKET IN THE WINDOW. >> IT'S -- IT IS REALLY MORE OF A BEST PRACTICE THAT SYSTEMS WILL GRAVITATE TOWARD AT SOME

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POINT. I THINK IF THERE IS A TRUE CONCERN ABOUT A CONTINGENT OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS TERRIFIED OF APPS AND CREDIT CARDS AND A PARKING SYSTEM, WE DON'T DISCOURAGE ACCEPTING COIN PAYMENT.

I WOULD DISCOURAGE DOLLAR BILL IN A MACHINE, AND WHY I TELL THAT YOU A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE.

MOISTURE IN FLORIDA. IT RAINS OCCASIONALLY.

A WET BILL AND IT WILL JAM THAT MACHINE INSTANTLY.

IT TAKES THAT MACHINE OUT OF USE AND IF THIS HAPPENS AT 4:00 ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON, YOU ARE DOWN A MACHINE IN THAT SENSE. SO THAT IS THE ONLY THING I WOULD DISCOURAGE, BUT THE OTHER THING WE FIND TOO IS WHILE PEOPLE DO CARRY COIN ON THEM, IF IT IS $1.50 AN HOUR, THAT IS SIX QUARTERS AND THERE FOR TWO HOURS, 12 QUARTERS.

SO PEOPLE BEGIN TO CONTINUE THEMSELVES OVER TIME AS TO WHAT

THOSE MEANS ARE. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: EDUCATION PIECE WITH THE COIN-OPERATED SYSTEM.

I WAS THINKING EASIER TO STORE THE DOLLARS AND THE WHOLE BUNCH OF COIN AND THE COLLECTION AND THE WEIGHT OF THAT WHILE DOING THAT. BUT I NEVER THOUGHT OF DOLLARS JAMMING THE MACHINE. YOU KNOW, I JUST USE THE APP AND JUST DIP THAT IN. WHEN I WAS IN A PLACE -- IF MY TIME EXPIRED. I WOULD CLIP ON THE APP AND REUP AND IT WOULD KEEP ON GOING.

BUT THIS COMMUNITY THOUGH IS -- WE ARE GETTING THERE, BUT OUR CITIZENS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT THERE.

AND THIS -- THAT IS THE CON CONCERN.

AND SOMEHOW WE CAN WORK WITH THE AMBASSADORS AND OTHER PEOPLE TO WORK WITH THAT. BUT WE WOULD NEED SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SENIOR FRIENDLY LEER TO LOOK AT THIS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO INTO PUBLIX AND WATCH PEOPLE WRESTLE WITH THE SELF-CHECKOUT AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGE THAT IS.

>> I WRESTLE WITH THE SELF-CHECKOUT.

I AM NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT IS A CHANGE IN THAT SENSE. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: I THINK WHEN WE COME ALONG AND WE WILL LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND COME BACK WITH IT, BUT -- IT IS GOING TO BE AN UNIQUE EXPERIENCE FOR FORT PIERCE. I LIVED THIS, AND IT IS JUST -- I KNOW WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO.

IT IS GOING TO BE SOME SERIOUS GROWING PAINS FOR US BUT I

THINK WE CAN WORK THROUGH IT. >> OKAY.

WE ARE ALL SET ON QUESTIONS FOR A MOMENT? OKAY. AND REALLY THE MIDTERM HERE AND THE NEXT SLIDE, THE 12 TO 24. THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE UP AND RUNNING WITH THE PROGRAM. AND WHAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO AND MAINTAIN IS -- IS CONTINUING TO EVALUATE THAT UTILIZATION OF THAT INVENTORY SO THAT YOUR PRICE SOMETHING RIGHT. YOUR SPACES ARE BEING UTILIZED ACCORDINGLY. YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THAT ABILITY. THE INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES.

ANY BLOCK YOU PULL INTO. 15% OF THAT INVENTORY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. WHEN YOU FOUND AND HIT THAT SWEET SPOT, YOU KNOW THAT THAT PRICING IS CORRECT.

ONE OF THE THINGS, TOO, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SAID BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING OF LIMITING DURATION FOR PAID PARKING.

THE IDEA FOR THE FEE FOR PAID PARK ALSO HELP YOUR TDM, YOUR TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT.

THAT WILL DICTATE WHETHER SOMEBODY PARKS THERE FOR 12 HOURS OR MAYBE TWO HOURS IS MY LIMIT AND THEY WILL THEN MOVE ON. BY GIVING THEM THAT OPTION OF THE FREE PARKING IN THE REMOTE LOTS, SOMEBODY SAYS I WILL BE HERE ALL DAY FOR TEN HOURS AND PARK IN THE CITY HALL GARAGE BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS GOING TO FIT MY PRICE TAG.

SO AS -- AS GROWTH CONTINUES -- AS WE ALL LOOK TO THE POSITIVE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES FOR FORT PIERCE.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT DEMAND AREA EXPANDS. THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM EXPANDS WITH IT IN THAT SENSE. AND SO OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SAID NECESSARILY IN THE REPORT.

BUT BY HAVING A FUND FROM ON STREET PARKING REVENUE, YOU NOW HAVE THE CAPACITY TO USE THOSE PARKING REVENUES TO FINANCE OR BOND ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN THAT APPROPRIATE TIME COMES. WE HAVE SEEN MANY COMMUNITIES DO THAT AND MUNICIPAL BOND BASED ON THE PARKING REVENUES COLLECTED, AND NOW YOU CAN BUILD STRUCTURED PARKING AS NEEDED AND WE ARE PROBABLY TALKING FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD HERE AND NICE TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN TO PLAN IN THAT SO YOU ARE NOT USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS OR OTHER DOLLARS APPROPRIATE FOR USE WITHIN THE CITY TO FUND AND MANAGE THE PARKING SYSTEM. SO THE PARKING SYSTEM SHOULD EFFECTIVELY BE MANAGING ITSELF BY THE REVENUES IT IS COLLECTING FROM THE USERS THAT USE THE PARKING SYSTEM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: SO DO YOU KNOW OF A CITY THAT IS -- ABOUT OUR SIZE THAT IS USING THIS KIND OF PARKING?

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>> WELL, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE ATLANTIC SEABOARD HERE, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE TRI-COUNTY, YOU KNOW STUART, VERO BEACH. I KNOW THAT THOSE AREAS HAD CONSIDERED IT. IN FACT WE DID A STUDY FOR STUART DOWN IN MARTIN COUNTY A SHORT WHILE AGO, AND IT WAS ALMOST A VERY SIMILAR STUDY TO WHAT WE DID FOR FORT PIERCE FIVE YEARS AGO. A 101.

HERE ARE YOUR OPTIONS. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THEY HAVE NOT

GONE TO IT YET? >> THEY HAVE NOT GONE TO IT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: NEW SMYRNA OR ANY OTHER CITIES.

>> THEY HAVE NOT. THE SIZE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING ON ATLANTIC SPAEBOARD HAS NOT GOTTEN THERE.

IN THE WEST PALM AREA -- OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT DOWN THERE AND YOU CONTINUE TO GO FURTHER NORTH INTO ST.

AUGUSTINE. >> ST. AUGUSTINE HAS PAID

PARKING. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> HOW ABOUT DAYTONA. >> FOCUSED ON THE BARRIER ISLAND WHERE THE BEACH DEMAND IS.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN -- I THINK A LT OF THE -- WHERE WE HAVE SEEN IT KIND OF BE A NO BRA BRAINER, FULL, ARE THE COMMUNITIES WHERE IT IS A BEACH DESTINATION.

BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW, PATRONS -- NO MATTER IF YOU CHARGE ME $5 OR $10, I WILL STILL BE THERE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY THAT SUMMERTIME BEACH ACTIVITY. ON THE GULF COAST WE MIGHT SEE FORT MEYER BEACH IS ONE ON THE SAME BOAT.

WE RECENTLY DID WORK WITH THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND ST. AR ARMAND'S CIRCLE AND THOSE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT SAID WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. SO IT IS A PROCESS, BY ALL MEANS. SO THE LAST ONE THERE -- REALLY THE LONG-TERM ACTIONS HERE. AND AGAIN, IT IS CONTINUED PARTNERSHIPS. I THINK WE ALMOST TOUCHED ON THE IDEA OF -- OF USING CITY REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIPS TO WHERE PERHAPS A DEVELOPER SEEKS A PARCEL OF LAND WITH THAT COMMITMENT. THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A NUMBER OF PAID PARKING OR PUBLIC PARKING SPACES WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT. I REALIZE THAT IS A LITTLE CONTINGENT UPON THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PARCEL OF REAL ESTATE, BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES IN EXCHANE OF LAND FOR ADDING VIABLE PUBLIC PARKING INVENTORY FOR THE MIX. LASTLY, THE KIND OF THE ONE THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING IS OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PLAN. WHETHER IT IS YOUR OPERATOR OR WHOMEVER EVERY FIVE YEARS AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND FORECASTING TOWARD FUTURE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES. SO I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME.

A PAUSE ON THIS SO I CAN KEEP ON GOING HERE.

I THINK WE HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES REALLY.

TOM MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT WE WERE LOOKING FOR CERTAIN DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY. THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE HERE IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT OF, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON THAT BARRIER ISLAND CONCEPT THAT THESE ARE DESTINATIONS AT CERTAIN PEAK PERIODS OF THE YEAR WHERE CROWDS ARE PATRONIZING.

THE IDEA BEHIND A PAID PARKING PROGRAM ON THE BEACH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, NONRESIDENTS OR VISITORS TO THE BEACH FROM OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER PARTS OF FLORIDA WOULD BE THE ONES FUNDING THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM WHEREAS IF YOU MOVE TOWARD A LICENSE PLATE CREDENTIAL FOR YOUR RESIDENTS, YOUR RESIDENTS SIMPLY HAVE THAT LICENSE PLATE REGISTERED AT NO COST AND THEY ARE SIMPLY PARKING FOR FREE AT THOSE BEACH LOCATIONS. SO KIND OF A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY. AND IN A SENSE, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE A PAID PARKING PROGRAM ALL 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. OBVIOUSLY ON A DAY LIKE TODAY, THERE WASN'T ANY SORT OF CROWD AT THE BEACH AT ALL.

SO IT COULD BE MERELY FOCUSED ON THE PRIME SUMMER ACTIVITY AT THE BEACH. BUT, AGAIN, JUST ONE OPTION TO CONSIDER AS -- AS THAT DEMAND BECOMES A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AND I WILL JUMP BACK OVER TO TOM. THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME.

>> YOU ARE EASY TO LISTEN TO. AND THEN THE LAST TWO DISTRICTS WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.

LINCOLN PARK BEING ONE. AND THIS DISTRICT FEELS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS AT THE MOMENT IN TRYING TO EXPAND. THAT CORRIDOR.

WE JUST SHOWED SOME GRAPHICS. AS YOU ARE DEVELOPING, YOU K KNOW, THE CITY -- IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO AT LEAST GAIN SOME CONTROL TO PROVIDE POCKETS OF PARKING THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT SO IT IS CONVENIENT.

IT WOULD BE EASY TO SAY WE THINK THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE HERE. YOU GRAB CONTROL OF A PIECE OF LAND AND DEVELOPMENT KIND OF ZIGS WHEN YOU ZAGGED.

AND YOU END UP WITH A PARKING STRUCTURE OR LOT THAT MAY BE

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NOT IN THE RIGHT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE KNOW THAT THE THEATRE IS WHERE -- WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT SEEMS TO BE FOCUSED AT THE MOMENT. GRABBING -- OR GAINING CONTROL OF PARCEL THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT TO HELP FURTHER INCENTIVIZED AND MAYBE THAT CAN BE PARLAYED INTO ENCOURAGING ADDITIONAL GROWTH BACK TO THAT PARTNERSHIP METHODOLOGY THAT JIM WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AND THE CHATS WE HAD WITH STAKEHOLDERS. THAT IS ALREADY GOING ON AND SEEMS TO BE ON TOP OF MIND. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VALUE TO ADD OTHER THAN TO CONFIRM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE DOING IT RIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE IN LIEU PAYMENTS WILL ENCOURAGE -- WILL ENCOURAGE THE FUND TO HAVE ENOUGH TO ACQUIRE THIS AS THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES ON. LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STORY WITH PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. NOT NECESSARILY IN A NEGATIVE WAY. JUST THAT WE LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL LANDMARKS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEMAND, AND THAT WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF OPEN LAND OR PARKING LOT LAND, SO TO SPEAK, THAT MAYBE IS OUT THERE AND MAYBE THE CITY DOESN'T CONTROL IT AND MAYBE THAT IS OKAY AND THE CITY PARTNERS WITH THE PRIVATE LANDOWNERS WHEN EVENTS COME AND DEVELOPMENTS COME, AND START CREEPING OUT OF DOWNTOWN AND INTO THAT AREA AS FAR AS THE -- THE DEVELOPMENT CIRCLE AND THE LEVEL OF SER SERVICE. YOU WORK WITH THE -- THE OWNERS OF THE -- OF THOSE AREAS, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS GOING TO BE AN EVENT. THE FARMER'S MARKET, ETC.

FIND WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO UTILIZE THEIR LAND FOR INVENTORY AFTER HOURS IF THEY ARE NOT USING OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. REALLY NOTHING OF TREMENDOUS IMPACT TO FOCUS ON AT THE MOMENT BUT JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT SHARING IS -- IS KIND OF THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT FOR NOW.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COST ANYTHING BUT RELATIONSHIP AND KEEPS THAT IN MIND AND AS THAT NEED AND THAT DEMAND DEVELOPS, IT GIVES YOU ALL AS LEADERS THE AWARENESS OF WHERE TO TARGET WHEN THE TIME DOES COME TO ACQUIRE.

SO MAYBE THIS CHANGES AT THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR UPDATE WHEN WE UPDATE THIS STUDY, BUT FOR NOW, I THINK IT IS MORE CENTERED AROUND THE CONCEPT OF PARTNERING WITH THE PRIVATE OWNERS THAT HAVE THE INVENTORY TODAY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES -- >> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

PERONA. >> THOMAS PERONA: I HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE QUIET AND WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS ONCE BEFORE AND I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT IS FUNNY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME -- I MEAN YOU KEEP TELLING US THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER. IF GROWS A LITTLE BIT IN THE UPDATES, BUT BASICALLY THE PAID PARKING ISSUE.

I REMEMBER FIVE YEARS AGO IT CAME BACK TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE. AND WE ALL SAT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND SAID THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. AND NICK SAID, GO AHEAD AND INSTITUTE THAT. NO YOU INSTITUTE IT.

I SAID I AM NOT GOING TO INSTITUTE IT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. NOT PUTTING MY NAME CONTINUE

TO. >> THOMAS PERONA: NOBODY WANTS TO PULL THE TRIGGER BECAUSE THE CULL DEMUR FORT PIERCE IS ONE WAY FOREVER. I PARK IN FRONT OF THE STORE THAT I WANT TO GO INTO. AND I CAN DO THAT 365 DAYS OUT -- MOST OF THE TIME. OKAY.

WE HAVE GROWN UP. AND IT IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT FORT PIERCE. AND WE JUST WENT THROUGH A -- A STRATEGIC PLANNING. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS OF THOSE FOLKS -- I MEAN, WE ARE A SMALL COMMUNITY OF 45 45,000, 50,000 PEOPLE. BUT RIGHT NEXT TO US IS ONE OF THE LARGEST COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BEACH. AND THEY DON'T HAVE -- I AM GOING TO SAY THIS. THEY DON'T HAVE A FUND DOWNTOWN. WE DO.

WE HAVE PARKS. WE HAVE ALL THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE WATER. I MEAN, WE ARE GOING TO WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREET RIGHT NOW AND FIND THOUGHT ONE OUT OF TEN PEOPLE OUT THERE LIVE IN FORT PIERCE.

SO WE HAVE THESE FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING US AND TAKING THE ADVANTAGE OF ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO BE HERE. WE LOVE THESE VISITORS THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT IS COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY AND COSTING US A LOT OF GRIEF. I THINK ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE ISSUE THAT'S I HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS A COMMISSIONER IS ABOUT PARKING, OKAY. SO THING IS YOUR THIRD STUDY WITH US. THE LAST TIME YOU SAID -- YOU GUYS, YOU GOT TO LOOK -- THIS IS THE TIME WE REALLY -- THIS COMMISSION RIGHT HERE IS NOW READY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE T THAT. WE WILL ALL PULL THE TRIGGER CONTINUE TO BECAUSE IT IS GOOD. WHEN I LOOK AT -- WHEN YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES PARK IN THESE PRIME SPOTS ALL DAY LONG.

AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS MULTIUSE NOW FOR PARKING SPACES, AK A PARKLETS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

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WE CREATED A PARKING DASH REAL PARKING PROBLEM.

ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS IS, OF COURSE, ENFORCEMENT.

WE PUT -- WE ALREADY HAVE THE TO-HOUR -- WE PUT THE ENFORCEMENT IN THERE BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE RESOURCES TO KEEP THE ENFORCEMENT GOING FORWARD.

SO REALLY THE PAID PARKING DOES PROVIDE THAT.

DOES PROVIDE SOME FUNDING, SOME REVENUES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT ISSUE. AND I THINK WHAT IT HAS DONE IS HELPED US WITH THAT CULTURE CHANGE.

FOLKS ARE NOW REALIZING SAYING -- I REALLY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. BUT IF I PAID FOR IT.

I COULD GET A PARKING SPOT NEAR WHERE I WANT TO GO THAT 15% REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF HAVING AVAILABILITY WOULD BE THERE. AND THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY ISN'T JUST GOING TO PARK THERE WHO WORKS AT ONE OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES ALL DAY LONG. AND YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN TALKING ABOUT FOLKS THAT WERE GETTING PENALIZED FOR IT.

WE WEREN'T PENALIZING THEM ENOUGH AND THEY WERE PARKING THERE SO IT COST ME $20 TO PARK OUT IN FRONT OF MY STORE ALL DAY LONG. I WILL PAY THE $20.

I HEARD THAT SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE.

EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW IS EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT TO GO. AND OUR PARKING -- OUR PARKING COMMITTEE LOOKED AT IT AND, OF COURSE, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, YES, PAID PARKING. THE A AND B SERVICE.

CONCENTRATE ON THAT AND LOOK AT A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR TO BRING THAT IN AND GET THAT ROLLING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I DON'T THINK WE WILL SIT ON THIS ONE FOR FIVE YEARS AND YOU WILL COME BACK AND SAY THE SAME THINGS AGAIN.

WE ARE AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

I AM LOOKING HERE -- SO I HAVE GOT THAT.

GOOD. AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS I HAVE AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT IS THE VISITOR THAT'S COME FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE ARE THAT TYPE OF A COMMUNITY. WE ARE A DESTINATION COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE -- IF THEY WANT TO GO TO THE BEACH, IF THEY WANT TO GO TO A MOTORCYCLE BAR THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 70 YEARS.

OR IF THEY JUST WANT TO COME SEE HISTORICAL DOWNTOWN, GO TO THE SUNRISE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE BEEN HERE. IT HAS GOT TO BE SOMETHING REALLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND COMMUNICATE.

WHEN WE TALK TO OUR VENDOR AND OUR THIRD PARTY VENDOR ON THAT, THAT WILL BE A QUESTION THEY HAVE TO ANSWER AND TELL US -- AND GIVE US SOME COMFORT LEVEL THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE -- YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU DIDN'T DO IT EXACTLY THE RIGHT WAY AND HERE IS YOUR $75 FINE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO IT EXACTLY THE WAY YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO. WE DON'T WANT TO THAT BE KIND OF COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

THIS TIME I THINK YOU PUSHED US OVER THE HILL AND MOVING HOPEFULLY IN A DIRECTION THAT IS IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY, BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT FORT PIERCE IS BEING DISCOVERED AND IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, IT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE A HARD TIME FIXING LATER.

SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WELL, YEAH.

IT IS GOING TO BE A HARD SELL, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THINKING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.

AND HERE IS -- I THINK THE REAL HEART OF THE MATTER.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES SUCCEED. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. SO -- AND I UNDERSTAND THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED AND RUN BY OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE.

HAS THAT HAPPENED? >> MADAM MAYOR, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT MR. BRODERICK IS HERE AND HE CAME AND GAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE -- THE DBA. IF YOU WANT -- HE HAS FEEDBACK TO GIVE US IF YOU THINK THAT IS RELEVANT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE COMMISSION?

MR. BRODERICK -- >> IF HE IS AMENABLE TO DO IT.

HE MADE THE PRESENTATION. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE WITH YOU YOUR MASK ON.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

GOT A TON MORE INFORMATION OUT OF IT THE SECOND TIME THROUGH.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: STATE YOUR NAME.

>> MR. BRODERICK, CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE THIS PAST WEDNESDAY AND DISCUSS THE ENTIRE ISSUE.

THE ADVANTAGES, DISADVANTAGES, ETC.

AND FIELDED QUESTIONS ON PRECISELY WHAT THE PARKING COMMUNITY WAS RECOMMENDING TO THE COMMISSION.

NOTHING FURTHER THAN THAT JUST WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAD DISCUSSED TO ROLL OUT. AND THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE -- I WAS EXPECTING THE EGGS AND THE TOMATOES.

THERE WAS NONE OF THAT. A REALLY POSITIVE EFFECT.

FULL SUPPORT FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE.

I ASKED THEM IF I COULD COME TO THE COMMISSION AND VOICE THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PAID PARKING PROGRAM.

THEY SAID ABSOLUTELY. SO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE IS 100% BEHIND THIS. SO YOU HAVE FULL SUPPORT.

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>> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. BRODERICK? I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT. THANK YOU.

WELL, THAT -- AND -- I THINK THAT IS A WAY TO SELL IT.

BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE HEARING THE WAILING WHEN IT GETS OUT FROM SOME PEOPLE -- I ALWAYS HAVE GONE DOWNTOWN AND PARKED IN FRONT OF THE STORE. I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. NOW YOU ARE TURNING THIS INTO A URBAN WEST PALM BEACH. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THEM AND 100 -- SO -- ALSO THEY NEED TO REMEMBER THERE WAS A TIME WHEN DOWNTOWN WASN'T FULL. THAT PEOPLE -- PEOPLE WEREN'T COMING DOWNTOWN. AND THE -- SO NOW WE HAVE MANY BUSINESSES AND MANY RESTAURANTS AND WE HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER.

AND THAT IS THE -- THAT IS THE -- THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER FOR THOSE BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO SURVIVE AND, YOU KNOW, SUCCEED. AND I THINK WE NEED TO SELL IT AS THAT. AS OPPOSED TO WE ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET MONEY FROM YOU FOR PARKING AND OR FINES. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> THOMAS PERONA: I WAS T TALKING TO A BUSINESS OWNER WHO WAS DOWNTOWN IN MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND I EXPECTED -- YOU KNOW, THE ROAR AFTER TALKING ABOUT PAID

PARKING. >> MAYOR HUDSON: I WONDER IF I

KNOW WHO THAT IS? >> THOMAS PERONA: YOU WILL GUESS. THE THOUGHT IS THIS.

I WAS SURPRISED BY REACTIONS. SENIOR PEOPLE WHO SHOP WHERE WE ARE AT. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO REFUND THEIR PARK GOING THEY COME IN. I KNOW, IF IT IS $2 OR -- WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND IT WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THE OPEN, AVAILABLE SPACES IN FRONT OF OUR STORES.

SO THERE IS A VERY GOOD POSITIVE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS THING. AGAIN A CULTURE CHANGE FOR US.

WE ARE NOT CHICAGO. OBVIOUSLY.

I -- I USED TO LIVE IN THAT AREA TOO.

AND REMEMBER THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE STORES UP THERE DO THE SAME THING. USED TO MUNCH YOUR TICKET -- WE WON'T HAVE A TICKET. THERE ARE WAYS AND SOLUTIONS OUT THERE. AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH.

WE STILL NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WE MISSED, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO GET MOVING ON THIS SOONER THAN LATER.

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR.

>> A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS ON THE REPORT -- NOT THE PRESENTATION BUT THE REPORT IF WE COULD.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE MARINA SQUARE THE GRASSY AREA.

BUT I ALSO LIKE PRESERVING GRASSY AREAS.

NOT ALWAYS, BUT I AM NOT SAYING THAT I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT IN THE FUTURE FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

PARKING LOTS -- I LIKE PARKING LOTS, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR PLACE. AND TO ME IN DOWNTOWN, I DON'T LIKE SURFACE LEVEL PARK. I LIKE VERTICAL AND VERY EXPENSIVE AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I AM COMING FROM IF I EVER TALK ABOUT THAT LATER IN LIFE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS WHY YOU WANT THE JC PENNEY PARKING

GARAGE. >> SURFACE LOTS IS SOMETHING FOR ME AND THE FOOTPRINT AND THE BLUE LAGOON THAT IS RIGHT BESIDE US FOR ME. I LIKE THE IDEA.

IT GETS US IN THAT 80, 82, SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- OKAY.

WE HAVE 1600 TO 2,000 SPOTS. AND SO YOU KNOW TOO -- TO BE TRANSPARENT I WORK FOR SAINT LUCIE COUNTY IN THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AS A CONTRACTOR, AS AN ENGINEER.

SO WE MANAGE THE COURT COMPLEX. AND SO THE FOLKS CALL US ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW THEY COULDN'T PARK IN DOWNTOWN TO COME SERVE THEIR CIVIC DUTY TRUST ME, I HEAR IT A LOT.

AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WOULD -- IF THE COUNTY'S PARKING GARAGE WHICH IS KIND OF AN AUXILIARY STRUCTURE TO THIS ENTIRE DOWNTOWN PARKING. THAT WERE TO BECOME EMPLOYEE FOR THE COURTS ONLY AT 187 PARKING SPACES, DOES THAT HAVE A BIG NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CENTROID AREAS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THAT REGION. THAT IS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE SOUTHERN END OF DOWNTOWN. IF THAT COMPONENT OF PARKING WAS FOR COUNTY TO SERVE THE COURT COMPLEX -- WHICH IS A VERY LARGE PORTION OF OUR DOWNTOWN VISITORS.

WHETHER IT IS EMPLOYEES OR JURORS OR JUDGES, DOES THAT TAKE AWAY A LOT OF YOUR CALCULATIONS? DOES IT CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN HERE?

>> NO, NOT AT ALL. IT IS PART OF THE INVENTORY AND YOU GAIN FROM UTILIZING IT. BUT IN THAT SENSE, YOU ARE UTILIZING IT THEN FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WHICH FREES UP SPACE

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SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. ONLY JUST SHIFTS.

>> AND I WILL COMPARE THAT GARAGE TO THIS GARAGE TOO.

THE NUMBERS ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THAT GARAGE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HAS SIX OR SEVEN ADA HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES. OUR GARAGE HAS ONE, TWO -- DO

WE KNOW OFF HAND? >> MAYOR HUDSON: PER FLOOR.

>> PER FLOOR. I BRING THAT.

SO MAYBE UP TO 8. SO I BRING THAT COMPONENT INTO CONVERSATION. BECAUSE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE WITH FOLKS INCLUDING BUSINESS OWNERS ARE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH ADA SPARKING SPACES IN DOWNTOWN.

A LOT OF MY PATRONS ARE IN NEED OF THAT.

WHY DON'T YOU OFFER MORE PARKING SPACES IN THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE GARAGE IN FORT PIERCE RIGHT HERE AS AN OPTION FOR THOSE FOLKS. IS THAT SOMETHING -- IN YOUR REPORT. HOW DEEP DID YOU GET INTO

ACCESSIBILITY AND ADA. >> WE DIDN'T GET INTO CONVERSATION WITH ADA -- PUTTING THE ADA JUST SERVES THIS IMMEDIATE AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT ANSWERS THE QUESTION OR DEMAND, SO TO SPEAK OF ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: SO I GUESS THE NEXT PART OF MY QUESTION OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IS, THEN WHERE DO WE PUT THEM AND HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THAT TASK.

YOU HAVE SEEN OUR INVENTORY AND OUR SURFACE LOT AND OUR ON-STREET AND DEPOT-TYPE PARKING.

DO YOU HAVE IDEAS AND THOUGHTS THAT IT COULD BE DONE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME WH WHERE, BUT JUST TELL ME CAN IT BE DONE WITH THE INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE? ADDITIONAL ADA HANDICAP PAR PARKING?

>> JUST A MATTER OF YOUR COMMITMENT TO WANT TO PROVIDE THOSE SPACES. JIM MENTIONED FEDERAL GUIDELINES ONE PER EVERY BLOCK FACE.

IT MAY BE WHAT IS NEEDED OR TOO AGGRESSIVE.

FOR YOU TO DECIDE THE MINIMUM IS ONE FOR 150.

ONE PER BLOCK FACE SHOW THAT'S ON EVERY BLOCK FACE AND SERVES EVERY STOREFRONT ALONG THAT BLOCK FACE AND CERTAINLY WOULD

MAKE THAT A GOOD GESTURE. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE GUIDELINES -- I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE CODE, BUT THE GUIDELINES. TO ME TOUGH TO HAVE A PARALLEL PARKING SPACE AS AN ADA ACCESSIBLE SPACE BUT IT IS D

DONE, RIGHT? >> YES, IT IS.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, WHAT ARE WE DOING CURRENTLY FOR ADA FOR PARALLEL SPOTS.

>> PARALLEL. >> ON SECOND STREET.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON: SO IT'S NOT -- YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT LIVED EXPERIENCE WAS KIND OF -- MY QUESTION WITH THAT IS THAT THAT COULDN'T BE PAID PARKING, I THOUGHT, IF IT WAS ADA, BECAUSE CAN YOU NOT CHARGE ADA IN PART OF THIS COLLECTION PROCESS.

SO IF SOMEONE CAME UP AND HAVE A PLACARD AND ADA, YOU CAN PARK THERE, NO TICKETS, NO FINES, NO NOTHING.

IT -- YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. SO --

>> IF IT'S DELINEATED AS AN ADA SPACE, THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT THE EXTRA BENEFIT IS FOR A PAID SPACE.

FIRST TWO HOURS FOR A DISABLED PATRON ARE FREE.

THEY WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO PAY UNTIL THAT THIRD HOUR OR IF THEY SO CHOSE TO MOVE. ANY TIME YOU IMPLEMENT A PAID PARKING PROGRAM, FIRST TWO HOURS ARE FREE AT ANY METERED

SPACE. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: SOMETHING WHEN WE GET INTO THE WEEDS OF IT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: AND I TOO LIVED IN CHICAGO AND WALKED SEVERAL BLOCKS. CAR IN A LOT.

WALKED SEVERAL BLOCKS TO WORK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE MADE SURE IS THAT OUR PUBLIC FEELS COMFORTABLE IN OUR GARAGE AND FEELS SAFE. BECAUSE MANY TIMES PEOPLE COME BACK -- LET'S SAY YOU WORK IN ONE OF THE DOWNTOWN RESTAURANTS AND YOU ARE COMING OFF WORK AT WHATEVER TIME THEY GET OFF.

I DON'T EVER STAY UP THAT LATE SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME THEY GET OFF, SAY 11:00, MIDNIGHT, WHATEVER, THEY HAVE GOT TO FEEL SAFE COMING TO -- IF THEY PARK THEIR CAR IN OUR GARAGE TO BE ABLE -- TO FEEL THAT THEY CAN SAFELY COME AND LEAVE THE

GARAGE AND GET HOME SAFE. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: ACTUALLY AN EXCELLENT POINT, MAYOR. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WHAT IS THE LIABILITY RESIDE AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE OUR DOWNTOWN CLOSES NOW AT MIDNIGHT, I DON'T KNOW, I AM NOT DOWN HERE THAT LATE.

1:00? BUT IT IS A CONCERN.

>> DOWNTOWN NEVER CLOSES. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: WHAT TIME

DOES THE BARS CLOSE DOWN HERE. >> MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

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PERONA AND MR. MIMMS KNOWS T THAT.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON: PERONA IS THERE.

OKAY. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WE ARE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS AND I KNOW THAT PARKING LOT IN CHICAGO HAVE ESCORT SERVICES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS EVEN THOUGH THIS IS -- THE GARAGE IS NOT RIGHT NOW GOING TO BE A PAID SITUATION. THIS GARAGE, RIGHT.

BUT IT MIGHT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE ONE AT THE JC PENNEY PARKING LOT.

I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: WE ARE

GETTING THE MARRIAGE. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MR. MAYOR -- MRS. MAYOR THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

MY WIFE AND I AND FRIENDS TRAVEL TO GO TO CITIES.

AND LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCES. WHAT IS IT LIKE? WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE? IS THERE A QR CODE SOMEWHERE CLOSE WHERE I CAN WAVE MY PHONE IN FRONT OF IT AND IT TELLS ME HOW TO PAY FOR PARKING. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND IT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE TWO THAT RIDE IN MY BACK SEAT WHEN BY ON THE TRIP.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YOUR TEXAS IN THE BACK.

>> I DRIVE IN THE BACK SEAT AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND WE ARE AT THE SPOT. I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND BRINGING THE EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE OF WHAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PLACES. WE ARE NOT REINVENTING A WHEEL HERE. WE REALLY ARE NOT AND TRYING TO MOLD IT AND APPLY THAT WHEEL TO OUR LITTLE DOWNTOWN.

SO THANK YOU. >> ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS TO SKIP SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY. YOU ARE ADVANCING YOURSELVES

EVEN FURTHER. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? GOOD REPORT.

I READ IT TWICE. SO.

>> STAYED AWAKE THE WHOLE TIME? >> MAYOR HUDSON: NOT THE FIRST

TIME. >> IF WE CAN HELP YOU FURTHER ON YOUR JOURNEY, WE ARE HOPE THAT DO SO.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: APPRECIATE IT.

MR. MIMMS. >> NICHOLAS MIMMS: MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, YOU HEARD A GOOD REPORT FROM OUR CONSULTANTS. AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK TO YOU CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAYBE FEEDBACK TO STAFF AS TO HOW WE PROCEED WITH THE NEXT STEPS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CONCEPTS RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU -- YOU WANT A LITTLE DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHERE -- WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR STAFF TO DO?

IS THAT CORRECT? >> NICHOLAS MIMMS: I BELIEVE THAT OUR PARKING COMMITTEE HAS WORKED EXHAUSTIVELY LISTENING TO THIS SITUATION AND SCENARIO AND OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE RECEIVED THE SITUATION, AND WE HAVE GAINED THE EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST FIVE TO SIX YEARS. AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD THAT DIRECTION. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HOME IN IF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ACCEPTED.

>> I CAN MAKE IT EASY. I LIKE THE THREE THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FROM THE COMMITTEE. THE PAID PARKING LEVEL EVER

SERVICE AREAS AND THEN AN RFP. >> THOMAS PERONA: I SECOND

THAT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> THOMAS PERONA: YES, THE PARKING COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT. THE PART THAT WE KNOW IS WHAT IS ON THE HORIZON RIGHT NOW. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.

WE HAD A LOT OF TIME FIVE YEARS AGO.

WE COULD THINK ABOUT IT. WE COULD KICK IT TO THE CORNER AND PICK IT UP MAYBE A COUPLE OF MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY ANYMORE.

THINGS ARE HAPPENING NOW. THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

AND YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, I AM DONE THINKING ABOUT IT. WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT FROM EVERY ANGLE WE CAN POSSIBLY BLOW GO. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GROWTH.

A LOT OF UNDERSTANDING. AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

THIS IS NEW GROUND THAT WE ARE BLAZING RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD, GO OUT AND -- LET'S CREATE AN RFP.

LET'S START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. MAYBE GET A COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO PROCESS THIS WHOLE THING.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT NOW.

AND IT IS IN LINE WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

EVERYTHING ELSE. ALL THE LIGHTS ARE GREEN ON MY DASHBOARD. SO THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT I WOULD PROMOTE THAT TO START IMMEDIATELY.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MA MAYOR, I WILL ALSO GO ALONG WITH THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, TOO, BY DIRECTING THE STAFF, WE ARE ALSO BEGINNING TO BUILD THAT PIECE OF ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION AROUND THIS TO PUT SOME FEELERS OUT. START LISTENING, TO LEARN WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AS -- AS WELL AS BUILDING THE PROCESS ON RFP.

AND ALSO DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ALL OF

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THIS AND THE BEACH AREA AS PART OF THIS PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: YES. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: OKAY.

I CAN GO ALONG WITH THAT. I THINK AS WE IN ALL INFORMATION BACK -- AND I THINK ONE ADDITIONAL THING TOO IS IF WE CAN FIND THAT MODEL CITY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF US THAT HAVE SIMILAR IMPLEMENTATION AS WE BRING THAT BACK MAY BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KIND OF SURVEY THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GROWING PAINS WERE IF WE COULD LOOK TO THAT AND BRING THAT BACK IN RESEARCH AS WELL. THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.

MIMOSA EVERY ASPECT OF THIS LAUNCH AND IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR A FORMALIZED APPROVAL. TONIGHT WE HAVE HEARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU HEARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOUR CITIZEN COMMITTEE. AT THIS POINT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR FEEDBACK. IF YOU WERE CONCURRING WITH YOUR CITIZEN COMMITTEE, THEN BY ALL MEANS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND BRING THAT YOU FORMALIZED DATA AND THE FORMALIZED DOCUMENTS FOR YOU TO APPROVE IN THE FUTURE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY. >> DID YOU MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MADE HIM MAKE A MOTION. >> MAYOR HUDSON: HE SECONDED IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO STATE IT MORE

FORMALLY OR -- >> YOU NEED A MOTION?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE CONSENSUS. IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA AS AN

ACTION ITEM, -- >> IT IS A REPORT.

>> A REPORT. >> THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE PARKING COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT ACTUALLY WEREN'T

SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED. >> MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT, PAID PARKING, RFP AND WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE.

>> IMPLEMENTED PAID PARKING WITHIN LEVEL A AND B AS IN THE PARKING STUDY AND RFP TO IDENTIFY A THIRD-PARTY VENDER TO MANAGE THE THIRD-PARTY SYSTEM IN THE WALKER PARKER

STUDY. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: EXTEND TO OTHER AREAS AND DISTRICT RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I LIKE THE IDEA OF BEACH PARKING BEING FOR RESIDENTS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT ALL HAPPENS OR HOW THE LICENSE PLATE WORKS, BUT I THINK THAT WILL BE A GOOD THING FOR OUR BEACHES.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, ONE MORE COMMENT IF I COULD. THE DEALINGS IN THE CLERK OF COURT BECAUSE OF OUR COURT SYSTEM DOWNTOWN, IT TAKES SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS TO EVEN BEGIN TO NOTIFY JURORS THAT ARE COMING INTO DOWNTOWN. THAT IS THE MINIMUM.

SO WHEN WE -- AS WE ROLL THIS OUT AND AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DEEP IN OUR MINDS THAT WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING IN TO SERVE.

SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, TEN WEEKS BEFOREHAND, SOURCE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN THE JURY SUMMONS GOES OUT IN ADVANCE. IT HAS TO BE THE PARKING MAPS.

WE WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THOSE THINGS -- NOT I -- THE CLERK OF COURT WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THESE THINGS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH HER -- WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THE STAFF IS COGNIZANT OF THAT

LEAD TIME. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THAT'S

CORRECT. >> NICHOLAS MIMMS: I'M ANTICIPATING THIS ANYWHERE FROM A NINE TO 18-MONTH PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE DO OVERNIGHT BUT WE GOT TO GET STARTED AT SOME POINT.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. ALL RIGHTY, SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE. DO CONSENSUS.

THAT IS FINE WITH ME. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU NEED, MR. MIMMS. WE HAVE GOT CONSENSUS.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, MR. BRODERICK.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> ANY ITEM THAT ANY COMMISSION WEAR LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON: MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> THOMAS PERONA: SECOND. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> THOMAS PERONA: YES, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 12 A WAS PULLED.

[b. Ordinance 21-002 Amending Chapter 109 of the Code of Ordinances, Floodplain Management Ordinance. FIRST READING ]

SO WE WILL MOVE ON A LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON ORDINANCE 21.002. AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 109 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT TO PROVIDE CRITERIA FOR ACCESSORY AND AGRICULTURAL STRUCTURES IN FLOOD HAZARD AND ELEVATION OF MANUFACTURED HOMES IN FLOOD HAZARD AREAS PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, APPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS THEREOF AND EFFECTIVE DATE. THE FIRST READING.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THE FIRST READING.

MR. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

>> NICHOLAS MIMMS: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AND HOPEFULLY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND MEMBERS OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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>> MAYOR HUDSON: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE -- IS THIS BOILERPLATE KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: A GOOD PROGRAM.

THAT IS MY STATEMENT. >> MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM. >> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: YES,

MA'AM. >> THOMAS PERONA: YES, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION --

[a. Resolution 21-R09 appointing Betty Bradwell and Tonya Hart to the Housing Authority of Fort Pierce.]

RESOLUTION 21-R 09, RESOLUTION TO THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CERTIFYING THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONERS OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

APPOINT BETTY BRADWELL AND TONYA HAT TO THE HOUSING

AUTHORITY. >> MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE A

MOTION. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: MORE FOR

PASSING OF RESOLUTION 21-R 09. >> CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> JEREMIAH JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> THOMAS PERONA: YES, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM.

[b. Applications for consideration for appointment to the Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board.]

>> APPLICATION FOR CONSIDERATION FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE SUNRISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD.

YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS AND THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT MEETING FOR YOU TO TAKE A VOTE.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

MOVING CONTINUE TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: ANY MEMBER FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO

ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? >> ONE IN THE BACK.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING.

IT'S UP TO YOU. OKAY.

>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. MY NAME IS DANNY LAWSON.

WE OWN A HOME 609 NORTH 23RD STREET.

AND I'M HERE TO ASK A QUESTION OF MR. MIMMS REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT 703 NORTH 23RD STREET.

>> MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS NOT A DIALOGUE --

>> HE CAN ANSWER ME. >> HE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU LATER. GO AND SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO S

SAY. >> FEW YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO APPROXIMATELY, WE SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT ACQUIRING THAT PROPERTY NEXT TO MY DAD'S HO HOUSE.