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>> THIS IS MONDAY FEBRUARY 8TH.
THIS IS OUR CONFERENCE AGENDA. ALLEGIANCE.
OUR ROLL PLEASE. MAYOR HUDSON?
>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER ANDERSON?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO EXCUSE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER FROM
THESE PROCEEDINGS. >> CAN WE TAKE A VOTE AT THIS MEETING SO BY CONSENSUS? HE WAS EXCUSED.
[a. Presentation by Clint Sperber, St. Lucie County Health Officer and Administrator]
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATION OF THE ST. LUCIECOUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> AT THIS TIME WE HAVE OUR HEALTH OFFICER AND ADMINISTRATOR WHO WILL COME UP AND FOR THE MOST PART THIS WOULD BE AN INFORMAL DISCUSSION WHERE YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS DOING CURRENTLY WITH THEIR ACTIONS AND IN RESPONSE TO THE CORONAVIRUS AND WITH THE VACCINATION PLAN. IN ADDITION THE LATEST SITUATION REPORT THAT HE RELEASED SAYING IT WAS SUNDAY OR SATURDAY MORNING. YEAH, EVERY DAY.
THAT IS ATTACHED AS BACK UP DOCUMENTATION FOR YOUR REVIEW AS WELL. SO I WILL ALLOW CLINT TO SPEAK.
>> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
>> WELL, THANK YOU MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS AND IT IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT INFORMAL. I DO WANT TO GIVE A BIG PICTURE AS FAR AS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT VACCINE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY ANSWERS WE DO HAVE BUT WITH THAT VACCINE SUPPLIES ARE NOT WHERE ANYBODY WANTS THEM AT THIS STAGE.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
WE KNOW SUPPLIES WILL BECOME MORE.
DEMAND IS HIGH WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S HOW WE WILL BEAT THIS VIRUS. BUT UNTIL THAT POINT, WEARING A MASK IS STILL NUMBER ONE WHERE SOCIAL DISTANCING IS NOT POSSIBLE. WE KNOW THAT IS THE CHEAPEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY AT THIS STAGE NOW TO AT LEAST STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS BECAUSE THE VIRUS IS STILL HERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID PASS OUR 20,000 CASES THAT WE'VE HAD AND OVER 500 FATALITIES FROM THIS VIRUS IN THIS COUNTY ALONE.
SO WITH VACCINE, THE WAY THAT THE VACCINE HAS BEEN COMING SO SINCE DECEMBER 30TH, ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS BEEN RECEIVING VACCINE AND THEY COME ON WEEKLY ALLOCATIONS AND WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THE FIRST DOSE ALLOCATIONS INITIALLY AND SECOND DOSE WILL COME AS WELL. SO THE TWO PRIMARY VACCINES ARE THE THIRD ONE JUST RECEIVED. THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON JUST RECEIVED THE EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION WHICH WILL BE GOOD BECAUSE IT'S MORE VACCINE THAT IS IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN BUT THE WAY THE VACCINES ARE YOU HAVE MA DELAWARE -- MADERNA AND PFIZER VACCINE AAPPROXIMATELY 21 DAYS APART.
SO FROM THE STATE PERSPECTIVE. THE WAY THE VACCINE STARTED I SAID IN ST. LUCIE. WE RECEIVED IT ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON THE 30TH. IT'S COMING FROM THE LOCAL COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT UNLESS THERE ARE STATE PROJECTS LIKE PUBLIX LIKE SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING ON ACROSS THE STATE WITH CHURCHES AND FAITH-BASED LIKE THE ONES THAT WILL BE COMING WITH CVS AND SAMES CLUB.
THOSE WILL BE COMING OR DIRECTLY FROM THE STATE AND ALSO SHIPMENTS THAT DO NOT COME FROM LOCAL HEALTHY DEPARTMENTS ALL FROM THE LONG CARE FACILITIES.
THERE'S A CONTRACT SET UP FROM THE DIVISION EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHERE LONG TERM CARE FACILITIES WILL GET VACCINATED SO IT BYPASSES US.
I MENTION THAT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE NEED AS MANY FORCED AND I USE THAT TERM SOMEWHAT OFTEN IN THE COMMUNITY TO VACCINATE. BECAUSE WITH THE VACCINE IT IS A TUDOS VACCINE. SO IT PULLS A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN SEVERAL WAYS TO GET FULL AND WE NEED TO FOLLOW A SIGN.
SO TO GET FULL PROTECTION OF THE VACCINE WE NEED TO GET THE
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VACCINE SO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS TWICE THE WORK FOR THE SAME GOAL. AS OF DECEMBER 30TH.OVER 21,000 PEOPLE AND WE ALSO TRANSFERRED OUT OVER 16,000 DOSES TO MEDICAL PROIS VIEDERS SO ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WAY BEFORE DECEMBER 30TH IS REGISTERING MEDICAL PROVIDERS THROUGH OUR STATEWIDE SYSTEM.
FOR THEM TO BECOME A VACCINE FOR ADULT PROVIDER.
IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN AND YOU BRING THEM TO THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE IT IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE AND THE PEDIATRICIAN WILL GIVE THEM A VACCINE AND WE CALL THEM VACCINE FOR CHILDREN PROVIDERS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF PEDIATRICIANS SIGNED UP IN THIS SYSTEM BUT NOT AS MANY ADULTS AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE ADULTS TYPICALLY TO NOT HAVE A
SCHEDULE FOR VACCINES. >> SO A LOT OF VACCINE FOR ADULT PROVIDERS ARE NOT OUT THERE.
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTIONING THIS IS VACCINE COMES TO US AND LEAD ME TO PUSH IT OUT TO MEDICAL PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN VACCINATE THEIR HIGH PRIORITY STAFF. ALSO TO VACCINATE AND HELP US VACCINATE THE COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE 11 VACCINE PROVIDERS WHO WE HAVE CURRENTLY TRANSFERRED VACCINE TO.
WE DID ON A WEEKLY BASIS. A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT AND ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE THAT WE SET UP HERE LOCALLY IS WE NEED A PLAN FOR EACH OF THOSE PROVIDERS TO USE THE VACCINE. IF THEY CANNOT USE IT WITHIN A 5-7 DAY WINDOW THEN WE CANNOT REALLY GIVE IT TO THEM.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO THEM.
WE DO NOT WANT IT TO SIT IN THE OFFICE FROM 2 OR 3 WEEKS WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, EVERYONE HAS BEEN VERY COMPLIANT WHO WE DO TRANSFER VACCINE TO AND SPECIFICALLY IN FORT PIERCE WE'VE TRANSFERRED TO THREE MAIN ONES WITH DR. LEWIS AND ALSO RECEIVED A SHIPMENT. SHE IS A FULL FAMILY CENTER.
AND IN FORT PIERCE THAT HE'S BEEN A GOOD ADVOCATE AND PROVIDER FOR US AND TAKE CARE AND DR. RANKAPAL.
SO FROM THE HEALTH STANDPOINT WHAT WE HAVE ALSO WORKED ON IS ADMINISTERING VACCINE AND WHEN YOU SEND OUT A VACCINE WE ALSO SHARE WITH THEM YES IT'S A PLAN, HERE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE YOU GOT TO FOLLOW THE EXECUTIVE BORDER IF YOU'RE GOING TO VACCINATE. AND THERE'S A LIT THE LEEWAY WITH HOSPITALS THAT THEY CAN VACCINATE PATIENTS WHO THEY DEEM IN NEED OF THE VACCINE. THEN THEY HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN WE WOULD AT A STANDPOINT.
IT'S CUT OR DRY FOR US. HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL WITH DIRECT PATIENT CARE. NO LEEWAY ON THAT.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE A STICKLER WITH AND THE REASON FOR THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE WHO ARE AT HIGHEST RISK FOR SEVERE COMPLICATIONS INCLUDING DEATH.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT PURE STATISTICS.
IT IS THAT AGE GROUP THAT IS HAVING THE WORST OF THE WORST OF COMPLICATIONS. SO FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE A LITTLE 4.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN FLORIDA WHO ARE 65 AND OLDER IN A MISCOUNTY APPROXIMATELY $80,000 AS OF A 2019 CENSUS.
KNOWING WHERE WE ARE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED WORKING IN A CRYSTAL BALL WE STILL HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE BUT THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE. I STARTED OUT SAYING IT IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT DOES RECEIVE THE VACCINE.
WE'RE EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE IS IN OUR LARGE MASS VACCINATION CLINICS THAT WE CAN SET UP AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS SETTING THEM UP. THERE ARE THREE MAIN ONES THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE THREE SITES IS BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT NEEDED FROM BRINGING IN PEOPLE THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT, PARKING THEM, STILL MAINTAINING SOCIAL DISTANCING BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT.
PROCESSING THEM THROUGH, VERIFICATION THAT THEY ARE WHO THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE FROM AN AGE PERSPECTIVE, DRAWN OUT A
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CONSENT FORM, GOING THROUGH THE VACCINATION AND THE HEALTH EDUCATION AND ALSO ON THE CHALLENGES AT THE END IS ALTHOUGH IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO GO BETWEEN 15-30 MINUTES FACE TIME IF SOMEBODY HAS A HISTORY REACTION OR SOME OTHER CHALLENGES HEALTH CONCERNS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY REACTIONS TO THE VACCINE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THREE LOCATIONS AT ST. LUCIE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS THEY HAVE THE CENTER IS AND ALSO AT PORT ST. LUCIE, THE MID FLORIDA EVENT CENTER. IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE FOR US TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OUR OPERATIONS WHICH INCLUDES WELL OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE ON SCENE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES WHERE WE BRING IN ANYWHERE FROM 35-50 VACS THEY OR THES AND THEN THAT A LARGE CONTINGENT OF LOGISTICAL SUPPORT, LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HELP PROCESS PEOPLE AND PARK THEM.WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS VACCINATING PEOPLE FROM 1,500-2,100 PEOPLE WITHIN A SIX HOUR TIME PERIOD.
IT'S A WELL OILED MACHINE THAT WE DO HAVE GOING ON HERE.
AND AT THIS STAGE OF THE VACCINATION PROCESS, THAT'S WHERE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT WHEN WE LOOK AT BEING IN A PANDEMIC AND WHERE OUR GREATEST NUMBERS WERE, WE COULD VACCINATE IT. IT SPEAKS LARGE LOCATIONS.
WE WILL HAVE VACCINATIONS WHERE WE RECEIVED OUR INITIAL AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON DECEMBER 3RD WHERE WE SET UP CLINICS WITHIN OUR OFFICE AND WE'RE VACCINATING ABOUT 100-260 PEOPLE PER DAY. IT'S THE DOUBLE DOSE.
WE ARE BRINGING IN ONCE. 28 DAYS LATER.
WE ARE DOING IT AGAIN AND IT'S A PFIZER VACCINE IT'S 21 DAYS LATER. THAT'S THE SEVERAL POINTS.
WHEN A VACCINE DOES COME OUT. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIX AND AND THIS IS ONE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
THE INTERESTING DAY ABOUT IT. THE PFIZER VACCINE NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND IT'S FROZEN AND IT'S AT NEGATIVE 60 TO NEGATIVE 80 DEGREES CELSIUS. YOU ONLY HAVE A COUPLE IN
ST. LUCIE COUNTY. >> YOU HAVE A FOUR OF THEM AND A COUPLE OF THE HOSPITALS HAVE IT AS WELL THE WHOLE FAMILY
HEALTH. >> LUCKILY THEY HAVE STEPPED UP
TO HELP OUT TO HELP. >> IF I COULD REAL QUICK.
YOU TALK ABOUT LOCATION. FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND FULLY WITH WORK NEEDED FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
ABOUT THREE PINPOINT THE LOCATIONS.
YOU HAVE TO -- THAT'S A BACK UP POWER BECAUSE IT'S IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG, WHAT DO YOU DO?
>>> OUR LAST THAT I MENTIONED THIS FOR.
WE HAVE VACCINE THAT ARE PORTABLE AND THEY RUN ON BATTERY. WHEN THEY GO TO THOSE LOCATIONS. THAT'S LESS THAN A CONCERN.
WITH A VACCINE ONE IS FROSTED AND THIS IS PURELY THE PFIZER VACCINE. YOU FIVE DAYS TO USE IT.
SO WHEN I USED -- WHEN I MENTIONED A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEDICAL PROVIDERS IS ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS AS WE ASK HOW DO WE HAVE WITHIN FIVE DAYS. THEY DON'T HAVE BAD ULTRA BAD CAPABILITY TO MANAGE IT INSIDE THE FREEZER.
IT'S PART OF THE SOME OF THE LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES.
YES IT IS ACCEPTING IT AND RECEIVING IT.
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ONCE WE HAVE FINE TUNE AND IT'S AS MUCH OF A SCIENCE IT COULD BE AS FAR AS RECEIVING VACCINE AND TRYING TO MANAGE IT AND KNOWING HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO ON ONE PARTICULAR DAY.THAT'S PART OF MAYBE IT'S SOME OF THAT VACCINE MANAGEMENT.
WE HAVE THAT RUNNING ELECTRICITY.
>> THE REASON FOR THE LOCATIONS.
THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES. PARKING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, WAITING AFTER THE FACT. KEEPING THE VACCINE COLD, ADMINISTERING IT WITHIN FIVE HOURS LIKE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT. HAVING ENOUGH AND THEN STAGING FOLKS, THAT TO ME LOGISTICALLY IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES. FLKS WAITING IN LINE AND COMING THROUGH AND LIKE YOU JUST SAID COUNTING AHEAD.
WE'VE GOT THIS MANY. WE WILL MAKE IT TO THIS CAR AND AFTER THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE TURNED PEOPLE AWAY.
I THINK YOU HAVE. >> SO JANUARY 9TH WAS OUR FIRST LARGER THAN WHAT WE DID AND IT WAS ONE WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE, WE DID NOT REGISTER BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A SYSTEM IN PLACE NO START THAT POINT. WE KNEW WHO OUR PRIORITIES WERE TO THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND WE KNEW THAT WE REALLY OUGHT TO FOCUS ON HEALTH CARE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE SICK AND THEY DID NOT -- THEY WOULD BE A LARGER HEALTH CARE DID NOT HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION FOR THE VACCINE TO GET IT. THE FIRST TIME WHERE -- THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE A REGISTRATION SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE WE WERE HOPING, WE KNEW THAT WE HAD ENOUGH VACCINE BECAUSE WE HAD AN INITIAL SHIPMENT OF THE MADERNA VACCINE AND MORE SHIPMENT OF PFIZER.
WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH VACCINE FOR OUR TARGET AUDIENCE BUT TO THAT POINT YOU DON'T WANT TO INVITE PEOPLE AND THEN SAY BYE, I'M SORRY.
BUT IT DID HAPPEN TOWARDS THE END OF IT THE WAY THAT
MESSAGING WENT OUT. >> THANK YOU.
>> SO WILL YOU FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION?
>> ARE YOU READY FOR QUESTIONS? >> YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY. >> SO I WATCHED THE TOWN HALL.
THE OTHER EVENING AND I WAS -- I WAS SURPRISED THAT I FELT LIKE IT WAS A -- YOU FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED TO HAVE IT TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT THE VACCINE WAS SAFE AND TO TAKE THE VACCINE AND YET WHAT I ENCOUNTERED WHO WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE LONGING FOR IT BUT CAN'T GET IT OR CAN'T SIGN UP OR DON'T KNOW HOW TO SIGN UP OR CHALLENGED BY NOT BEING COMPUTER SAVVY OR NOT KNOWING -- JUST NOT KNOWING HOW TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM. SO, THAT IS TONY BIGGEST FRUSTRATION. NOT CONVINCING PEOPLE TO HAVE THE VACCINE BUT TELLING THEM THAT THE SUPPLY IS THE DEMAND IS SO MUCH GREATER THAN THE SUPPLY AND THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING LEFT OUT AND SO -- THERE IS A QUESTION IN THIS SOMEPLACE IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE AN DO THE OLDEST PEOPLE FIRST AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO IS 90 SHOULD GET IT AHEAD OF ME? THERE'S A LIST OF PAPERS THAT
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CAN VERIFY WHETHER THEY DO HAVE A RESIDENCE HERE.>> THAT'S THE LIMIT AS FAR AS WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS FROM OTHER COULD BE COUNTIES THAT GO TO OUR EVENTS THAT CAN SIGN UP ON OUR WAIT LIST JUST AS WELL AS OUR RESIDENTS SIGN UP FOR OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO GET VACCINE WHEREVER THEY CAN BECAUSE THE DEMAND IS HIGH.
WE KNOW AS OF SEVERAL DAYS AGO OUR WAIT LIST HAS OVER 30,000 PEOPLE IN IT. PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT.
WHICH IS GOOD BUT IT'S SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING TO SIGN UP.
ALTHOUGH WHEN YOU DO SIGN UP, THERE'S A PAGE THAT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THANK YOU YOU ARE REGISTERED ON OUR WAIT LIST AND WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE PRINT THAT, I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT. THERE'S NO E-MAIL NOTIFICATION THEY WILL ALSO AFTER IT SAYS THANK YOU FOR REGISTERING THAT IT WILL SEND THEM ANOTHER E-MAIL THAT SAYS OKAY YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TWICE. WHEN WE DO HAVE THE EVENT WHERE WE NEED TO HONOR JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PUSHING OUT OUR WAIT LIST IS TO USE THAT WAIT LIST WITH A LARGER EVENTS AND AS MUCH THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR PUBLIC HEALTH MESSAGING. IT'S WORKING BUT IT'S NOT THE BEST ANSWER FOR YOU. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT WAITING LISTS OUT THERE. I KNOW THE STATE HAS A NEW SYSTEM TO ALSO WAIT WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR NAME ON THE LIST AS WELL AND SO I'M KIND OF LEARNING HOW THAT WILL IMPACT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
I KNOW TO BE ABLE TO MERGE WITH THE CURRENT WAIT LIST THAT WE HAVE. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO AWAY WITH SOMEBODY ON A WAIT LIST AS FAR AS PRIORITIES.
WE'RE STILL LEARNING ON THAT. PUBLIX HAS ITS OWN LIST.
I USE THE CLINIC AS AN EXAMPLE. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WAIT LIST FOR THEIR OWN PATIENTS AS WELL. SIGN UP ON A WAIT LIST.
ONCE YOU GET AN APPOINTMENT. NOTIFY THAT ENTITY THAT YOU RECEIVED A VACCINE AND TRY TO GET YOUR NAME OFF THAT WAIT LIST BECAUSE IT TAKES A STOP FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> THERE'S SEVERAL NUMBERS TO CALL INCLUDING THE COUNCIL AND I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE TAKING NAMES AN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR NAMES. DO THEY TURN THEM OVER TO YOU
OR DO YOU KNOW? >> ONE OF THE LAST EVENTS THAT WE HAVE AT THE DEFENSE CENTER WORKED WITH HIS STAFF WHERE THEY AND WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN SOME OF THEIR HOME BOUND PATIENTS TO THE DEFENSE CENTER. WE DID HAVE A PLAN WITH THEM AND WISH WE WOULD HAVE MAYBE SEEN MORE PEOPLE.
WE WERE ABLE TO VACCINATE SOME OF THEIR HOME BOUND PATIENTS.
>> THEN ALSO IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA I KNOW THERE WAS AN EDITORIAL AND NEWSPAPER AND WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT WE NEED MORE. I HEARD YOU SAY THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT SUPPLY THAT WE CAN INHABIT AN EVENT AT AVENUE C?
>> YES. >> IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS
OR SO. >> AND THERE ARE -- WITH THE CHURCHES THE WAY THAT THAT HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THE DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THERE'S A PROCESS TO IDENTIFY CHURCHES THAT HAVE SPECIFIC LOGISTICAL.
THEY HAVE TO BE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THIS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO IDENTIFY THOSE CHURCHES THAT HAS BEEN SENT OUT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO IT IS ON A LIST.
SO THERE ARE THREE INDIVIDUAL ORIGINAL AND TWO MORE AND WHERE I WAS ABLE TO INCLUDE BASED UPON SOME CONVERSATION AND LET ME KNOW AND THEN TALKING TO SOME LEADERSHIP IN TALLAHASSEE AND ABLE TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES OVER THE WEEKEND.
THEY ARE THEY ARE ON THAT LIST AS WELL.
THAT'S FIVE OUT OF THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS THE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY TEN CHURCHES PER DAY THAT DO GET A VACCINE WHEN A TEAM WILL COME DOWN AND VACCINATE THEM.
THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS. >> I KNOW WHERE HOWARD TIPPED
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IN AND HIS TEAM THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO AN EVENT IN LINCOLN PARK IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.>>> THEY WILL BE REACHING OUT IF YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM IN THE PAST HOUR. WE WILL TRANCE TRANSFER A VACCINE AS WELL TO THEIR HEALTH CLINIC SO WE CAN SET UP SOMETHING. I KNOW HE'S LOOKING TO DO
SOMETHING THIS WEEK. >> IN OUR AREA, HOW MANY
CHURCHES DID YOU JUST MENTION? >> YOU SAID THERE WERE THOUSANDS. HOW MANY IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA FROM LOOKING INTO ON THAT LIST?
>> THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
WE HAD SEVERAL THAT HAVE SIGNED UP ON A -- THAT WANTED IT.
I KNOW THERE ARE THREE SUBMITTED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT THE STATE IS LOOKING AT.
IT NEEDS TO BE A LARGE ENOUGH AREA TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING.
>> ALTHOUGH THAT IS A LARGER AREA JUST TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE OPERATION.
EVEN IF YOU SCALE IT DOWN, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF ROOM IN
PEOPLE TO ACCOMMODATE. >> ST. MARK, MINISTRY PWAP TH*EUS CHURCH, ALSO RIVER OF LIFE CHURCH AND THAT IS WHERE WE CALL THE OLD TEMPLE OR JUANITA AVENUE AND ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TWO OTHERS. THAT WOULD BE SAN JUAN, DIEGO CHURCH ON DELAWARE AVENUE NEAR 31ST STREET AS WELL AS ST. MARK EVANGELIST ST. MARK CATHOLIC CHURCH.
I BELIEVE THAT'S AT YORK AND ZEPHER.
>> SO I HEARD THAT. IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS HERE AND DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION AND FEEDBACK.
PEOPLE ARE SCURRYING. THEY WILL GET ON THIS AND THAT LIST AND THEY ARE OCCUPYING SPACE.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES BECAUSE I WALKED THROUGH PROCESS WITH YOU AND I UNDERSTAND THE SIGN UP PROCESS.
I WAS REALLY CONCERNED WAS HOW WAS THAT LIST PAIRED DOWN FOR NO SHOW, FOR DUPLICATIONS, HOW DO YOU GUYS COORDINATE THAT
ACROSS ALL THESE CHANNELS. >>> TONY PUBLIC IS JUST TRYING TO GET IN LINE TO GET A SHOT. THEY ARE ON EVERYBODY'S LIST.
SOMEHOW YOU GUYS GOT TO BE TALKING TO PAIR US DOWN.
THE COMMUNICATION I'M GETTING IS PEOPLE WILL SEE A 30,000 WAIT LIST AND JUST GIVE UP. I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT ADDRESS YET. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE IN MEETINGS COORDINATED. THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE.
THE STATE THEY DID SET UP A NEW LIST AND THIS IS ONE THAT IS GOING TO TRUMP ALL THE OTHER ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA BECAUSE IT WILL BE ABLE TO INCLUDE HOW IT WAS MENTIONING ANT IT WILL BE ABLE TO INCLUDE IT AND NOW THE PUBLIC SAYS I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. SO THE STATE LIST IS GOING TO TRUMP THE EVENT LIST THAT THE STARTED HERE WITH ST. LUCIE
WE WILL INCLUDE EVERYTHING WHEN THE TRANSITION INTO IT SO WE ARE STILL A COUPLE WEEKS AWAY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
>> WHAT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IS YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE AND TO YOUR POINT WHETHER I'M GOING TO SAY I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH YOU.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROVIDERS WHO ARE OFFERING VACCINE AND THE BEST THING FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT IS TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND THERE'S NO ONE CENTRAL LIST THAT SOMEBODY CAN SAY OKAY.
I'M NEXT IN LINE EITHER PUBLIX PUBLIXCVS OR THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHEN WE OFFER THESE LARGE VACCINES.
IT'S UNFORTUNATELY, NOT PERFECT AS FAR AS THE SYSTEM YET.
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BUT FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT WE HAVE CRIMINAL OVER IS THROUGH OUR EVENT BRIGHT SYSTEM AND ONCE WE TRANSITION INTO THIS SYSTEM IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS FAR AS MESSAGING.SIT IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S 100% ON THAT.
>> WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING THROUGH OUR WEEKLY PRESS CONFERENCES.
IT'S STILL CONTINUE TO REGISTER ON THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND COUNTY LOSS. WE WILL LET YOU KNOW.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY. IT'S NOT PER SPECIAL.
>> THERE'S A LOT WHERE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERING.
>> I KNOW IT'S ABOVE WHERE YOU ARE.
TO ME THAT MESSAGE NEEDS TO GET TO TALLAHASSEE.
>> PEOPLE ARE HEARING THAT. THEY WILL TRY TO GET TO THE STATE SIDE. SO SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO COMMUNICATE BETTER. IS THERE A PROCESS.
YOU A PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND CHURCHES AND HAVING A PAPER PROCESS AND THEM TO WORK WITH THEIR OWN OR NEIGHBORHOODS TO GIVE PEOPLE IN THE CLINICS.
>> NOT ANY TRANSLATION OF STUFF.
I WILL JUST COME. I KNOW YOUR TIMETABLE.
>> MY QUESTION AND CONCERN IS YOU HAVE WEB-SITES.
YOU MENTIONED ON AVENUE C. IT'S AS GOOD AS ANYBODY OUT THERE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
MY POINT FOR ME TO TRY TO UNCLUCKER.
>> I HAD THIS CONVERSATION. >>
>> SEVERAL MONTHS AGO BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND US PROVIDING
MORE SUBJECT MATTER EXPORTS. >> THEY ARE A MARKETING
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THEY WOULD BE THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE.
IT'S NOT COMING TO US AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WHERE I RECOMMEND ALSO IS YOU FILL UP AND BECAUSE HE IS HIM AND THEN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION AND A COUPLE HAVE BEEN WITH THEM UP. THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS.
WE KNEW HOW EFFECTIVE WE WERE IN 2009.
>> THE COMMISSIONER. >> CLINT.
>> I GOT TO TELL YOU. >> EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
I LOOK AROUND AND THINK OF WHOSE JOB I JUST WOULDN'T WANT.
>> YOU MADE THAT LIST. >> YOU HAVE MY RESPECT.
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT YOUR EVERY DAY IS LIKE.
>> WE ALL THINK THE SAME. IT'S A DAUNTING TASK.
YOU'RE DEALING WITH EVERYBODY. IT'S NO EXCEPTIONS.
I CAN SEE THAT HAPPEN -PING. IT'S THE ONE AND DONE.
>> THAT'S THE DIFFERENT CHANGES >> WE ARE TRYING TO DO IN REAL
TIME. >> SO MANY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AND FOR SOMETHING THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
>> IT'S NOT THE COUNTY. BUT KIND OF TO YOUR POINT AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE. THE VACCINE WE KNOW WHAT I HEAR IS AT IT IS EFFECTIVE AGAIN. THE CURRENT MUTATIONS.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT MUTTIONS BUT TWO MADERNA AND PFIZER THEY ARE EFFECTIVE FOR THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON THAT HAS
BEEN EFFECTIVE AS WELL. >> WE LOOK AT THE 72% EFFECTIVE FROM A VACCINE PERSPECTIVE THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
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THEY ARE VERY E E THEY ARE VERY E EBGTIVE.>> MY FINAL QUESTION IS. >> AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP
>> WE ARE CREATING -- LET'S CONTINUE TO TRY TO RECRUIT MEDICAL PROVIDERS. WE HAVE REACHED OUT.
IT'S NOTHING AGAINST A MEDICAL PROVIDER OFFICE PER SE.
WHAT WE DO YEAR AROUND IS WE ALWAYS TRY TO RECRUIT THEM TO BE WHETHER IT IS WHAT I CALL A PROVIDER FOR INFLUENZA SO THEY CAN ALLOW US TO HAVE A BETTER PICTURE AS FAR AS WHAT FLU STRAINS ARE GOING ON ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
WE KNEW THE VACCINE WOULD COME IS ONCE WE KNEW THAT WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC THAT THERE'S SEVERAL PHASES TO THE PANDEMIC AND THE VACCINE ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT OF IS LAST FAZE OF IT. WE SENT E-MAILS OUT AND SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE SIGNED UP UNTIL WE HAVE ENOUGH MEDICAL PROVIDERS THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE THE VACCINE AND MANAGE IT.
IT'S NOT THE EASIEST PROCESS TO DO.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN DEFINITELY HELP.
THE MORE WE HAVE THE BETTER WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY STANDPOINT. IT'S MORE IMPORTANT OR THE PUSH VACCINE OUT TO RESIDENTS AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT.
RIGHT. HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE ST. LUCIE
PROVIDERS? >> HOW MANY WE HAVE REGISTERED
ALREADY AS A VACCINE? >> WE TRANSFERRED SO FAR TO 11.
I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE MORE THAT WE WILL TRANCE
FOR MORE VACCINE TO. >> HAVING MEDICAL PROVIDERS.
>> IS IT A DOCTOR WITH AN OFFICE.
WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION? AS A PROVIDER?
>> THIS WILL BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PHYSICAL CLINIC THAT THEY
>> ARE THOSE PROVIDERS FOR CARES ACT TO HELP PROCESS?
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER.
>> ONE FOLLOW UP AND CAN WE GET THAT LIST OF PROVIDERS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. I KNOW THE COUNTY THEY ALWAYS
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HAVE SOMEBODY TRANSLATE IN SPANISH AND CREOL.>> IT GOES TO A WIDE VARIETY OF NEWSPAPERS AND OUTLETS.
SOMEONE CAN TRANSLATE IT FOR THEM I GUESS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> MADAME MAYOR THANK YOU FOR
SHARING THIS. >> I GUESS PETITIONING FROM YOUR HIGHEST GOVERNMENTS. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DO AND THEY ARE ENTITLED TO DO THAT.
>> WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP. I WILL CUT A VIDEO AND AIR IT THIS AFTERNOON. JUST WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT. IT'S FRUSTRATING TO GET PEOPLE TO TELL PEOPLE TO GET THE VACCINE BECAUSE THEY SAY WHERE CAN WE GET IT. WE BELIEVE IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
WE WANT TO HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS.
OTHER ONE THING, YOU SAID RESIDENTS.
IF YOU OWN PROPERTY AND YOU ARE A SNOW BIRD IS THAT A RESIDENT?
>> IF YOU HAVE A LEASE. THAT WOULD QUALIFY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
YOU HAVE BEEN AT THIS A YEAR. PROBABLY WORKING 24 AND 7 SO THANK YOUR FAMILY, TOO FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
>> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA
[b. Discussion of boarding/rooming houses and related Code of Ordinance requirements led by Commissoner Curtis Johnson, Jr.]
IS DISCUSSION OF BOARDING AND ROOMING HOUSES AND ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS BY CURTIS, JOHNSON, JR.>> COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU START OFF?
>> SURE. >> THE WORK IS SHUT OUT.
>> I WILL BE TO HIM IN A BRIEF MOMENT.
I WILL TELL THE COMMISSION. SO MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS I ASK TO BE PLACED ON OUR CONFERENCE AGENDA. THE NEW PERSON TO ISSUE.
I DO RECALL THE DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OR SO. IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY SOME RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WAS NO LONGER ALLOWED. BASED UPON SOME CONSTANT QUESTIONING AND RESEARCH AND ASKING AROUND I HAVE LEARNED THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON OUR BOOKS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. IT'S CONCERNING TO ME THAT WHAT I HEARD LED ME TO LEAVE THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BOUND BY ORDINANCES WHICH IS OUR LEGAL STATUE OF THINGS.
I HAVE SEEN BOOK OF ORDINANCE. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION AND CONSIDERATION. AS WE THINK ABOUT THE CITY AND WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE FOR OUR CITY GOING FORWARD.
THEY COME TALK TO US ABOUT ARCHITECTURE GOING FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I WOULD LIKE FOR MY CITY MANAGER TO WEIGH IN AND BRING
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US UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS.>> I WOULD LIKE MR. SEEN WITHY TO WEIGH IN WHEN IT COMES TO
ORDINANCES FOR OUR DISCUSSION. >>>
>> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN. THE COMMISSIONER JANUARY SON IS
RINGING UP. >> THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE A FULL PROHIBITION OF QUOTE UNQUOTE COMING OUT WE HAVE JUST AS YOU STATED. THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
>> WE HAVE DONE RESEARCH IS ON A PARTICULAR SITUATION.
SHE HAS IDENTIFIED THE HOUSES ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED AND THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN OUR USED TABLE.
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> THAT COPED ENFORCEMENTS IS GOING THROUGH ITS PROF SESZ RIGHT NOW.
I BELIEVE IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN OBTAINED WITHIN A CLOSED DATE AND I WILL REFER TO PEGGY ON THE DATE.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO TAKE PLACE TO WATCH 2021.
THAT IS OUR CURRENT PROCESS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS VISITED THE SITE AGAIN AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED AND HAS NOT IDENTIFIED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BUT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THE FACT THAT THE OPERATION IS CURRENTLY RUNNING
WITHOUT THE NECESSARY APPROVALS >> WE ARE WORKING WITHIN THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH THE EXISTING ORDINANCES.
THAT IS A FIVE PERSON LIMIT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL LIVING THERE. THIS WAS SHUTDOWN BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS CALLS AND STAY THE VACANT FOR MANY YEARS.
I RECALL THAT. NIP CONCERN IS THEY HAVE NOT COME THROUGH CHANNELS OF DESIGNATING WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. THEY ARE OPERATING OUTSIDE THERE A SCOPE. WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS NOW.
MY CONCERN IS BEYOND THAT. SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT'S OUR STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A DUPLEX.
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>> THAT'S BASICALLY ONE DOOR WITH MANY DOORS INSIDE FROM MIFF INTERPRETATION OF THAT. AND THESE WERE THINGS OF THE PAST THAT KIND SPRUNG UP AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA AND SINCE THEN ARE ACCEPTING THIS ONE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE THAT SOMEONE HAS BROUGHT BACK WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE AND DONE THAT. FOR US TO DRAFT SOME
LEGISLATION. >> AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY SO I CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHERE DO WE THINK IT? SOR A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, BOARDING HOUSES WERE VERY COMMON.
>> THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DID. >> BUT NOW, BOARDING HOUSES IS KIND OF ARCHAIC. ARE YOU THINKING IN TERMS OF
NOT ALLOWING THAT AT ALL? >> YEAH.
THAT'S A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO A DUPLEX.
>> BASED ON HOW OUR STANDARDS ARE NOW AND HOW MANY ARE
ALLOWED PER WHAT ACREAGE. >> THAT'S FINE BUT THIS HAS ONE
DOOR AND MANY DOOR INSIDE. >> SO I'M INCLINEDDED TO AGREE WITH YOU. I WOULD LIKE INPUT AND STAFF AND IT LOOKED INTO TO SEE IF ANY OTHER CITY IN FLORIDA.
ANYONE DOES THIS. ARE YOU FAMILIAR?
>> I'M NOT NO. >> THEY CAN TAKE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS. THEY CAN BECOME AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR. >> I DON'T WANT TO SAY A CHANCE
FOR PROVIDER OR CARETAKER. >> DOWN SOUTH IS A LOT MORE PREVALENT THAN THE TREASURE COAST.
>> I CONSIDER THAT A GROUP HOME SO TRANSITIONAL PERHAPS.
>> RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHERE I WILL GO WITH THIS. I'M TALKING OUT LOUD BECAUSE WE
WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I HAVE ONE OF THOSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
>> THIS IS NOT THAT CASE. >> THAT IS REGULATED.
>> THE SOBER HOME THAT YOU MENTIONED.
THAT'S REGULATED BY STATE AND COUNTY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR LANGUAGE INCLUDES SUCH THINGS.
>> THAT'S WHY I BRING IT FORWARD.
>> MADAME MAYOR. >> I DON'T REMEMBER IF COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON IF YOU WERE ON THE COMMISSION WHEN THE
CITY WAS SUED. >> I DIDN'T THINK SO.
>>> AND IN THE TAIL END. >> THE CITY WENT THROUGH A LAWSUIT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, FEDERAL LAWSUIT AS IT PERTAINED TO THIS. THE ADA HAS RECOGNIZED THAT DUB STANCE ABUSE IS A PROTECTED CONDITION UNDER THE ADA.
I THINK IT WAS AN $800,000 SETTLEMENT.
I'M SURE SHE AND HER COLLEAGUES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AS YOU MENTIONED IT'S PREVALENT AND IN PALM BEACH COUNTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THROW THREAD THAT FINE NEEDLE ON MAKING SURE WE STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH NOT ONLY FEDERAL LAW BUT STATE LAW.
>> WE ARE RESEARCHING THIS ON FRIDAY.
THERE'S CF THAT'S INVOLVED. AND I APOLOGIZE BUT THERE'S ANOTHER IF THERE'S DISABILITY. RESIDENCY INVOLVED.
SO IT'S ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS BUT THEN THAT WAS
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JUST LIVING TOGETHER IN A GROUP LIVING SITUATION.IT'S CLEANING ALL THE THINGS UP IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
>> GO AHEAD. TO TAKE CARE OF THEM AND GIVE THEM A HAND UP. HOW DO WE AOH DRESS THAT? NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT RULES. I'M SAYING WHAT IF SCENARIOS.
IT'S NOT SHORT-TERM RENTALS BUT DO WE START BRINGING IN THE
CODE TOGETHER. >> THERE MIGHT BE MULTIPLE
FAMILIES IN ONE HOME. >> IS THAT PART OF THE PROHIBITION. IT BRINGS A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO MIND. I HAVE HAVEN'T TITLED ALL THOSE
PIECES TOGETHER. >> I'M LOOKING HERE AT JEN'S MEMO. TY WANT TO CLEAN UP THE OR DANCES. WE HAVE FOLKS COMING FORWARD.
I LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU'RE ALLOWING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND CHANGING THE
DYNAMIC OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. >>>
>> . I AGREE THAT THE IDEA AND THE CONCEPT OF BOARDING HOUSE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I SEE IN MY
COMMUNITY. >> GETTING SOME OF THE DECISIONS WE HAVE MADE ON THIS ISSUE.
>> WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH ALL ENCOMPASSING.
>> THERE ARE AREAS. WE SAT HERE AS A BOARD TALKING ABOUT ONE OF OUR CHURCHES THAT WANTED TO CREATE A PLACE TO BRING IN FAMILIES THAT HELPS FAMILY DYNAMIC TO HELP THEM
HEAL, GET JOBS. >> THIS BLADE IS GOING TO CUT
THROUGH EVERYTHING. >> BALANCING THE NEIGHBORHOOD DYNAMIC WITH WHAT WE CAN DO TO LET OUR COMMUNITY GROW AND PROSPER AND HEAL WITHOUT VIOLATING ALL THOSE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. I REALLY LIKE PITCH THE STAFF AND KNOWING THAT THIS IS SOMEONE WHAT COMPLEX MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT LEGALLY DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS ALL THE PLANS DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE AND RULES AND REGULATIONS AND OUR COMMUNITY PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DYNAMICS.
I THINK THIS IS AFTER COMPLEX DECISION.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TELL HOW WE CAN NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS. WITHOUT PUTTING US IN SOME FORM OF A LIABILITY OR DOING SOMETHING THAT THAT MANY OF OUR DO GOODERS NOT ABILITY BE ABLE TO DO.
U I WOULD APPRECIATE THE STAFF LOOKING IN ALL FACETS OF THIS.
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NOT SOME GROUP HOME. >> NOT SOME MEDICAL.
>> BUT MAYOR. ON THAT POINT IF YOU HAVE THOSE EXCEPTIONS OUT THERE. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE VERY
CLEAR. >> IF I WANTED TO HAVE A HAVE A BOARDING HOUSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE SOME
>> STATE LICENSING. >> WE CAN'T MAKE IT EASY.
>> TRY. >> BIGLE AROUND SOME EXEXCLUSIONS. I THINK THE COMMISSIONER.
WE ARE INVITING THAT. OUR SKERPB LOOK AT STANDARDS AND AS WE LOOK AT THINGS THAT ARE THAT WE NEED LOOK AT.
STUFF WILL TRANSITION OVER TIME.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING UP FOR THE FUTURE
SO WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS. >> AND HAVING THE AUTHORITY.
>> IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON. I UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS TAKES A LITTLE WHILE. ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHAT WE ARE
>> I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO CLARIFY.
>> MAKE THE PROCESS FOR APPROVAL VERY CLEAR AND ALSO -- I CLEARLY IDENTIFY THE AREAS WHERE THESE TYPES ARE RELIABLE.
I GUESS THEY CLEARLY DEFINE THE PROCESS FOR THE CEASING OF THE OPERATION IF SIT NOT APPROVED. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> . >> I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE -- WE DON'T WANT HOUSES. THAT IS WHAT I LIKE TO LOOK
YOU CAN HAVE OUR GROUP HOMES THAT ARE LICENSED AND WHATEVER
ELSE GOES ON. >> IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES. >> I THINK WE ARE WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSS. BUT SITTING HERE FROM A UNINFORMED WAY WE NEED TO SEE WITHOUT THEM AND GIVING ACCESS.
WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DECISION. >>>
>> WE NEED TO KNOW AND BOARDING HOUSES IN THE PAST THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE COME BACK. BOARDING HOUSES.
>> GOT YOU. WE WILL DO THE RESEARCH AND WITH A SINGLE ATTORNEY AND THE BULK OF THIS RESEARCH.
AND WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU. >> MADAME MAYOR TO CLOSE THAT UP. THE NEXT ITEM YOU SEE ON YOUR AGENDA AS YOU SEE THE BACK UP MATERIAL AND SEE THAT THERE WAS I BELIEVE TEN DIFFERENT ORDINANCES CITED FROM DIFFERENT CITIES. SO THAT'S KIND OF I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SEEING WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE AND HAVE OTHER PLACES AND CREATED COMPLETELY IN ADVANCE AND HOW THEY DONE IT AND BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK IN THE CONTEXT
APPROPRIATE STANDARDS. >> THANK YOU.
>> AND WE WILL BE TOGETHER ON THAT.
>> THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS IN OUR PERFORMANCES.
>> REMEMBER. >> I REMEMBER WHEN THEY HEAR THAT. THOSE NUMBERS WERE HERE.
>>> IT WAS VERY COMPELLING. >> SO THANK YOU.
[c. Discussion regarding the adoption of a Civil Citation program for minor marijuana offenses. This discussion is pursuant to a recommendation by the Police Community Advisory Committee regarding such a program. ]
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>> THE NEXT ITEM IS CIVIL DISCUSSION PROGRAM FROM MINOR MARIJUANA OFFENSES. IN IS PURSUE WANT BY RECOMMENDATION REGARDING SUCH APPROPRIATION.
>> YES, MA'AM, OUR MAYOR AND MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
>> THIS ITEM HAS BEEN TO YOU AS A FOLLOW UP OF A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT WAS INITIATED BY A GROUP OF CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY IT WAS THEN FORWARDED FORWARDED TO OUR ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. >> THE DRUG FREE ST. LUCIE PORTION OF THAT ORGANIZATION. SO YOU WANTED TO HAVE THIS
>>> I'M SO HAPPY TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
>> DEPUTY ALSO IN CONSIDERATION.
WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE STATE AND HOW THEY PROCEED AS WELL AS IN THE TIME LAP. WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO THE PRIME LAB. WELCOME.
THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE. FOR LARGE CITIES AND THE ENTIRE COUNTY. ALL THE ARE ADULTS ONLY.
>> SOME VERY SIMPLE WITH BASIC $100 FINE ACROSS THE BOARD.
OTHERS HAD AN ESCALATING FINE SCALE.
>> THE PROGRAM LIMITED A PERSON'S ABILITY.
>> >> THE PREVIOUS WE MADE 147
IT'S THE COUNTY. IT'S SPORTS LUCIE.
>> IT'S STATEWIDE. >> IT NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO TEST FOR THIS. LIT PROVE THAT THAT IS
MARIJUANA. >> PROVING IN PALM BEACH COUNTY. IT IS NO LONGER ISSUING THE
CITATIONS OF MARIJUANA. >> SO I RECOMMEND -- PEOPLE
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>> DOES THAT STAY ON THE RECORD?
>> I DIDN'T MEAN THAT. I MEANT THAT THE SYSTEM HAS
MADE IT THAT IT'S USELESS. >> IN A WAY.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO DOES THAT TAKE CARE OF
>> I'M WONDERING NOW OUT OF WHAT THE NEW LEADERSHIP SOCIETY CAME TO US AND SAID TO US AS A PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE THERE WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHY THEY WANTED US TO CONSIDER THIS.
>> MADAME MAYOR. >> THE QUESTION IS.
IT IS START WITH ONE IN AT FIRST.
>> IF ITEMS A REPEAT. IT WILL BE A MONETARY FIND.
>> YES, SIR. >> PEOPLE CAN ELECT TO COMMUNITY SERVICE OR GO THROUGH A DRUG AAWARENESS PROGRAM.
>>> SO, I THINK AT NIGHT I WAS HERE DURING THAT PRESENTATION.
>> IT WITH US A CONCERN THAT MAY NOT -- BUT IT COULD BE
IT WAS PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BOOK.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE PERSON FROM CAREER ASPIRATIONS. IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A CHARGE OR WHATEVER AND IT'S ON THE RECORD.
>> IT WAS 20-OUNCES OR LESS. IT WAS A MARIJUANA CHARGE.
>> . >> I THINK THAT YOU PICKED UP PRETTY MUCH THE GIST OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY WITH THE SOME OF SOME MARIJUANA YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THAT.
THEY COULD HAVE BEEN THEIR WHOLE BY CONFLICT WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT NEWS THAT WOULD GO FORWARD FROM THERE.
>> LET'S SAY YOU GIVE OUT THAT CITATION.
>> IS THAT APPEALABLE? >> YES.
>> DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TESTING
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WAYS TO GET AROUND THIS.
SO YOU GIVE ME A CITATION AND I WILL APPEAL IT.
IT IS MARIJUANA WHICH WE ARE NOT DOING.
>> SO THE CITATION IS ISSUED. >> IT AOESZ MILLIGRAMS OR GRAMS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT 20GRAMS LOOKS LIKE.IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT. >> DOES THAT STAY IN SOME FORM OF AN EVIDENCE CUSTODY UNTIL EITHER THE FINE IS PAID OR THE TERM OF BEING ABLE TO APPEAL IS OVER?
>>> YES. IT WILL BE TAKEN INTO EVIDENCE
UNTIL THE CASE IS DISPOSED OF. >> I'M OVER THINKING IT AGAIN
AND I APOLOGIZE. >> IF WE DO THIS TYPE OF.
>> CITATION ISSUE. IS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER AND FLY THROUGH. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A YOUNG PERSON'S FUTURE RECORD AS FAR AS IT GOES TO BE ABLE IF
YOU GET IN THE MILITARY. >> THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE
CRIMINAL HISTORY. >> THE COURT SYSTEM IS WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> IF THERE'S A STOP AND
SOMEONE HAS 15-GRAMS. >> WE WILL TAKE THE SUBSTANCE
AND PUT IT IN EVIDENCE. >> EVERYTHING WILL BE
>> IF THEY HAVE 30GRAMS? >> THAT'S A FELONY AND IT WILL
BE PROSECUTED. >> TAKEN TO THE COUNTY JAIL.
SO EVERYONE WILL BE TO DO THAT. >> THE FOLKS ARE FOCUSED IN ON THE YOUTH. EXPLAIN TO ME IF YOU COULD.
>> IF I WAS AN UNDER AGE INDIVIDUAL CARRYING A CASE OF BEER IN MY CAR. VERSUS 15-GRAMS. IS THERE A ACCUSE BETWEEN THE TWO.
>> WE WOULD TAKE THAT AND PROBABLY CALL THE PARENTS.
>> HERE IT WOULD BE UP TO THE OFFICERS DISCRETION.
>> THERE ARE LOUS THAT APPLY TO THAT.
CRIMINAL HISTORY. >> OH MY GOODNESS IT WILL STAY
WITH ME FOR EVER. >>> THEY APPLY TO ADULTS ONLY.
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
DO WE TALK ABOUT IT OR DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AT ALL OR WITHIN A REGULATION OF OF SOME SORT.
>> A YOUTH PROGRAM. WHAT TO WE DO FAR CITY AND AN AGENCY. WHAT SHOULD WE DO AND WHAT DO
WE DO? >> I THINK JUST TO BE CLEAR
NOW. >> 15-GRAMS IT CAN BE AND IT COULD GO FORTH. I THINK COMMISSIONER JOHNSON
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YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE ADULTS AND WE HAVE TEENAGERS.SO RIGHT NOW THE LAWS THE PARTICULARLY A LOT OF FOLKS.
>> WHAT ARE WE EXCISING RIGHT NOW.
>> THEY COULD BOTH BE ARRESTED. >> OKAY.
>> AND IT DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE.
>> THAT GETS ME TO THE POINT. THAT 15-YEAR-OLD BEING ARRESTED. THAT'S AND THEY DECIDE TO PROSECUTE AT THAT POINT. THAT BECOMES A PART OF THAT PERSON'S RECORD. THE SKWRE WHAT ARE OUR SISTER CITIES FROM THE SOUTH OR NORTH DOING WITH THIS?
>> SO NO ONE HAS MADE A DECISION --
>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITATION ON OR THE 15-OUNCES OR
>> IT'S DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH OF US.
>>> IT'S FURTHER TO THE SOUTH THEY ARE.
>> THE EXACTLE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY. .
THE CONCERN IS THAT OUR COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME IS NOT TO ENFORCE THAT. IT'S UP TO DISCRETION.
THE LEADERSHIP CAN COME IN AND DECIDE THEY WANT TO ENFORCE IT.
>> WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER TO SET A STANDARD SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THERE AND TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE.
>> WHAT'S THE PROSECUTION. >> THAT'S WHEY MISSED THE PRESENTATION OF YOUNGS PEOPLE. I NEED SOME DATA.
HOW MUCH IT'S GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DATA. >> THE DATA IS VERY LIMITED.
THE CHIEF REPORTED FIVE TO DECEMBER 2020.
>> THERE ARE NINE FELONY ARRESTS IN THE PERIOD.
>> THAT'S CITY AND COUNTY. >> .
OR HIGHLY ENFORCING THIS. >> THE COUNTY AREA.
>> ST. LUCIE COUNTY. >> IS THE SHIFT DEPARTENT
>> BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD. THE STATE ATTORNEY ISSUED A
MEMO. >> WE WILL NOT DO THIS ANYMORE.
HE REALLY DIDN'T SAY IT THAT WAY.
WE DOCUMENT IT AND DO NOT TAKE IT FOR PROSECUTION.
WE REGARD IT IN AGE. >> OUR COMMISSIONER JONATHAN SAID. OUR STATE ATTORNEY THAT THEY WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD AND THE MARIJUANA TESTING.
>> NOW WHAT OCCURS WITH THE DOCUMENTATION WHAT IS THERE IF IT CHANGES THEN THOSE CASES WILL MOVE FORWARD BUT I DOUBT THAT ANY OF THOSE WILL MOVE FORWARD.
>> WITH ARE IN A STATE OF STAND STILL.
>> THING IS CHANGING ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO A MORE STRICTER SENSE.
I THINK IT IS AT LEAST IN SOME FORM.
>> SO YOU KNOW -- I THINK IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IN MY MIND THAT IT'S THE LAW WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO ENFORCE IT. BUT DO WE GO BEYOND -- REASONABLE TIME AND ENERGY AND EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
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WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS TO BE ABLE TO DO.ADD THAT PROCESSING INTO A OFFICER'S DAY AND THEY HAVE MARIJUANA AND ALL THIS STUFF. I'D BE MORE SUPPORTIVE IF WE CAN WALK IT DOWN. AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME PENALTY FINANCIAL GOING TO. THOSE SERVICES WILL HELP OUT ALSO. AND IT HAS TO BE DETERMINED.
>> AND FOR US TO TAKE IT. I CAN HAVE THE ORDINANCE TO DO.
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>> I AM ALL ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT HELP MOVE US FORWARD. ELIMINATE YOU KNOW, SAD TO TALK
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ABOUT BUT KIDS GETTING INTO OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE.YOU KNOW, THAT CAUSES A DOMINO EFFECT LIKE WE ALL KNOW FOR LATER ON IN LIFE.
DOESN'T MEAN THEIR FUTURE EMPLOYERS WILL NOT SAY GIVE ME ALL YOUR RECORDS EVEN IF IT IS A CITATION. AS AN EMPLOYER, YOU DO NOT GO TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
DID YOU GET A CIVIL CITATION? I WANT TO KNOW THAT NOW. SO WHATEVER, IT IS COMPLICATED.
IT IS NOT EASY. >> I THINK IF I CAN THE COMMUNICATION WHAT I AM HEARING IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, 20 GRAMS OR LESS IS AT, THAT IS SOMETHING THE CITY NOR THE PROSECUTING OFFICE PURSUANT. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE BEFORE.
A MATTER OF US HAVING THAT COMMUNICATION PARTICULARLY TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAME TO PETITION US. YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY AND RECORD OUT THERE, EMPLOYERS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO HIRE SOMEONE ON THEIR JOBS. EVERY JOB I HAVE HAD, THERE IS ALWAYS BEEN A DRUG TEST. UP TO THAT EMPLOYER TO DECIDE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK US TRYING TO OVER REGULATE AND PUT SOMETHING ON THE BOOK AT THIS POINT IS GOING TO HAMPER ANY OF THAT OR DO ANY GOOD QUITE FRANKLY. I THINK WE ARE COMMUNICATING.
I AM HEARING FOR MY CHIEF, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PROSECUTING OFFICE.
FOR THEM TO GO ON RECORD THAT WOULD HELP I THINK. >> A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE LISTINGS THAT ARE STRUGGLING, THEY HAD THE RULES BUT STRUGGLING WITH IT.
>> IT IS TOUGH FOR ME WHEN WE MAKE UP RULES. YOU KNOW, STATUS QUO AT THIS POINT. WE ARE MAKING UP RULES ALONG THE WAY WHICH WE KIND OF HAVE
TO SOMETIMES. >> I THINK WHEN THE NEW LEADERSHIP SOCIETY CAME TO US AND THEY WENT TO THE BOARD, IN A WAY WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS OLD NEWS.
SOMETHING THAT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE. BUT ISN'T HAPPENING NOW.
>> 18 MONTHS. >> EXACTLY. >> WITH THOSE FIVE, WE HAD TO DO THE PROCESS OF US DOING TRAINING THAT WE CANNOT ENFORCE THOSE.
THIS IS WHY WE HAD THOSE FIVE DURING THAT TIME. >> WHAT IS ÃI AM HEARING WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT ALONE AND KEEP LOOKING AT THE SITUATION. IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY IS
THINKING? >> VERY DYNAMIC. STAY ABREAST TO THE ISSUES.
IN TUNE WITH TESTING, WITH WHAT CAN BE NEXT. WITH WHAT ABOUT UNDERAGE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THIS, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE WE GOING TO SAY WE WOULD LIKE IMPLEMENTED.
NOT JUST YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GET HELP, MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP.
IF WE GET TO THE POINT OF LEGISLATION. THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO OR RECOMMEND BEING DONE FOR UNDERAGE INDIVIDUALS. THAT RESONATED IN MY HEAD THAT DAY OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS ALL THEY SPOKE ABOUT. THEY REALLY DIALED INTO UNDERAGE INDIVIDUALS HAVING RECORD FOREVER. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW FOR ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADULTS AND UNDERAGE. >> HE PROBABLY DID FOOLISH
THINGS WHEN YOU WERE UNDERAGE TOO RIGHT? >> 45 AND PROBABLY DID NOT
LEARN AT. >> SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION?
>> ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR US? >> THANK YOU. >> YES, THANK YOU.
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>> I THINK WE JUST CONTINUED TO ASK STAFF TO KEEP US UP TO SPEED ON THIS.
IF THINGS CHANGE BRING IT UP TO US. I THINK AS A FOLLOW-UP THE DATA
THAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED, TO KIND OF SEE. >> I WANT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TELL US WHEN THEY NEED SOMETHING FROM US. WHEN THINGS CHANGE AND WE HAVE
SOMETHING SPECIFIC I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS WE NEED. >> I AGREE.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. GOING TO BE CONTINUOUSLY AT CONVERSATION.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE INFORMATION LIKE THE COMMISSIONER IS TALKING ABOUT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, GIVING US INFORMATION ON WHAT IS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW HOW MANY
ARRESTS ARE THEY SEEING OR HOW MANY STOPS ARE THEY SEEING. >> MAY BE, I AM NEW TO THE COMMISSION, HAVE WE HAD THE STATE PROSECUTOR COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THIS?
MAYBE WE INVITE THEM IN. >> WE HAVE A NEW ONE. >> DO YOU THINK HE WOULD DO
THAT? >> SOME STAFF MEMBER. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
>> WE WOULD APPRECIATE HIS INSIGHT. >> THEY CAN TELL US TOO, INSIGHT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE JAIL, THE COURTS. COURTS BACKLOG.
WE HAVE A YEAR AND AND A HALF WORTH OF DOCKETS COMING UP. I BET YOU THAT COMES OUT OF
THERE? >> EMPHASIS ON THE YOUTH BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A DRUG
DIVERSION COURT. I THINK THERE IS. >> THERE IS.
>> OKAY. >> VERY MUDDY. SO AT THIS TIME NO ACTION REQUESTED. NO CONSENSUS FOR ANY ACTION. BUT YOU'D LIKE FOR THE CITY TO INVITE THE STATE ATTORNEY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL WITH REGARD TO THE
ENTIRE JUDICIAL MECHANISM, CORRECT? >> THIS IS ON YOUTH.
ADULTS TOO. YEAH. >> I WILL INVITE HIM.
>> IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CIRCUIT. >> YES.
RIGHT. >> THE CIRCUS IS GOING TO TELL THE STORY.>> EXACTLY.
>> PRECISELY. >> OKAY. READY TO MOVE ON?>> ACCESS
[d. Porpoise Beach Access Improvement Project]
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. >> WE HAVE WITH US OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL AS ENGINEER THAT WILL SPEAK ABOUT OUR ANTICIPATED PROJECT AT CORPUS BEACH ACCESS.
WHICH WE WILL ENHANCE THE ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT. JACK AND MIKE ARE HERE TO
PRESENT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> WHO GOES FIRST?
MR. ANDREWS? >> AS YOU RECALL FIVE YEARS - AGO, WE ACCEPTED DONATED PROPERTY, FROM PART OF THAT AGREEMENT WAS THAT WE IMPROVE A PARKING LOT ON THAT SITE WITHIN FIVE YEARS. WE ARE CLOSE, THAT WAS BACK IN MAY OF 2015.
BUT WE DO HAVE A DESIGN COMPLETED, WE HAVE MET NUMEROUS TIMES, WITH EVERYONE THAT HAS CONCERNS WITH THE BEACH AND WE CAME UP WITH A PROPOSAL OF A PAPER PARKING LOT, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A PROPER PARKING LOT THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
TO GO WITH THE HARD SURFACE INSTEAD OF GOING WITH ASPHALT OR CONCRETE.
WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THAT TO TAKE CARE OF THE DRAINAGE AND TO PROVIDE.
SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE ON GETTING THE PARKING LOT, SUCCESS ON THAT.
STORM WATER RETENTION. QUALITY AND STORM WATER. THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR PARKING LOT THAT WE USED ON THAT. MORE COSTLY, ESTIMATE THE COST OF THIS RIGHT AROUND 240,000.
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BUT PICKS UP 24 PARKING SPACES. IMPROVES THE ACCESS TO THE OCEAN ACCESS.>> DID NOT REMEMBER IT WAS SPECIFICALLY, I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE THE BEACH ACCESS. WAS IT SPECIFICALLY MAKE A PARKING LOT?
IT WAS. >> PARKING INCLUDED. PARKING AND IMPROVE THE ACCESS.
>> YES, SIR. >> CONDITION THAT SAID HOW MANY SPACES OR JUST ADD SOME
PARKING? >> THERE WASN'T COMMISSIONER. JUST A STATEMENT, I PULLED THE AGREEMENT OUT AGAIN TODAY. SAID TO PROVIDE PARKING AND IMPROVE THE ACCESS.
>> OKAY. NOT THAT IT IS A SUPER CONCERN, I HOPE THE BEACH ACCESS FILLS UP. THE PARKING LOTS WERE, THIS CONCERNS ME SOMETIMES.
IT IS DEAD END OBVIOUSLY. ALL THE STALLS, 21 WITHOUT THE ADA.
24 TOTAL. 21 IN THAT SECTION TO THE NORTH.
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO, SOME PEOPLE JUST COME IN AND THEY STOP BY FOR A COUPLE MINUTES. ARE THE WANT TO GO IN AND THEY TURN AROUND BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A CONVENIENT SPOT TO TURN AROUND. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, SOMETHING LIKE A TURNAROUND AREA AT THE END INSTEAD OF TWO SPOTS. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PARKING LOT IS FULL WHEN I PULL IN THERE. THEN I HAVE TO DO A PACKING MOVEMENT TO PULL OUT.
THAT IS WHAT CONCERNS ME WHEN IT IS FULL. >> WE TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE PARKING SPACES THAT WE HAVE. PROVIDE THE TURNAROUND, YOU LOSE PARKING.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT FULLY. ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT FOLKS GOING OH MY GOODNESS, I DON'T
HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO NOW. >> IT COULD BE FULL BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FOR PEOPLE TO PARK. EXACTLY.
IT PROVIDES MORE YOU KNOW CHOICES PER PARKING. >> I LOVE IT.
I HOPE IT IS ALWAYS FULL BUT THAT IS ALWAYS MY CONCERN. YOU KNOW THAT ÃI DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO. YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO A CUL-DE-SAC TURNAROUND.
>> PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT LOSING THREE SPACES. >> PROBABLY FIT IT IN THERE.
WE DO HAVE TO KEEP THE NORTHERN 20 FEET FOR ACCESS THAT THE COUNTY HAS REQUESTED FOR FUTURE NOURISHMENT THAT THEY WOULD SOMETIME WANT TO HAVE ACCESS OVER THAT.
THE LOW-PROFILE CURBS AND EVERYTHING FLUSH THAT THEY COULD TRAVERSE OVER IT.
BUT IF WE DO A CUL-DE-SAC, LOOKING AT IT, GOING TO BE THREE OR FOUR SPACES.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS A HUGE LOSS HONESTLY FOR ME. I AM NOT TRYING TO REDESIGN, I LIKE IT. ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT INDIVIDUALS OR THE MAINTENANCE VEHICLES THAT COME IN TO DO SWEEPING OR MAINTENANCE.LL CONSIDERATIONS FOR ME.
I WOULD PREFER IT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF TURNAROUND SPOT. >> IF YOU DON'T HAVE TURNAROUND COULD YOU HAVE ANOTHER EXIT? DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? TOO SMALL?
>> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, WE HAD TO GO TO DOT FOR ANOTHER ACCESS ON THAT SIDE.
>> OKAY. >> THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS.UT COMPLICATED.
>> YEAH. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PLAN? >> ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ELIMINATE THE PAVILION CURRENTLY THERE? MERELY BE A BEACH ACCESS? NATURAL DUNE CROSSOVER TO THE BEACH. THE AMENITY THAT IS THERE IS PROPOSED?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS USED ALL THAT MUCH. >> NOT FOR ACTIVITIES WE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE. >> RIGHT. THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE USED,
PROBABLY NOT WHEN I AM AWAKE. >> LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE. ILLUMINATING MAINTENANCE.
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>> DEFINITELY ELIMINATE SOME MAINTENANCE FOR SURE. THE STRUCTURE IS OLD.
FREQUENTLY REQUIRING MAINTENANCE TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP IT IN THE CONDITION IT IS
CURRENTLY. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EXPLORING, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S SUGGESTION. YOU KNOW WITH THE BUILDING. I DO, THIS COULD BE FILLED UP WITH ENOUGH PEOPLE GOING TO THE BEACH BUT SQUARE GROUPER OR ARCHIES OR SOMEPLACE.
>> YOU KNOW WE ENTERTAINED SOMETHING HERE A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO.
WE TALKED ABOUT PARKING CAPACITIES. THIS COULD COME INTO PLAY AT
SOME POINT. WITH THAT. >> YOU ARE RIGHT.
ADDING TO THE INVENTORY. >> OKAY. >> RELUCTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TURNAROUND, NICE TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL THREE OR FOUR SPACES.
SAME TIME, THAT IS WHERE ACCIDENTS OCCUR, PACKING MOVEMENT.
>> SO BY ADDING A TURNAROUND, YOU WILL TURNAROUND. >> IT IS FULL, NOW I HAVE TO
BACK ALL THEWAY OUT TO LEAVE. >> THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO GET IN AND OUT PRETTY MUCH.
>> ONLY IF IT IS FULL. >> THAT IS A LEGITIMATE POINT THOUGH I MEAN.
>> WE ARE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS I KNOW. IT IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT SO THE COUNTY CAN HAVE ACCESS? IS THAT RIGHT?
>> MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING AND STUFF OUT OF THERE. IF THEY WANT TO ACCESS, THEY HAVEN'T SAID SPECIFICALLY OR YOU KNOW NEVER USED IT BEFORE. BUT IN CASE THEY WOULD NEED THE
ACCESS. >> ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING, OR TURNAROUND.
>> SAME DESIGN I THINK. >> HOPEFULLY THEY USE THE PARKING LOT.
>> YEAH. >> DO BEACH MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
>> OKAY. CLEAR AS MUD. >> LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND SEE
IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR A TURNAROUND. >> THE CROSSOVER IS GOING TO
REMAIN RIGHT? TO GET TO THE BEACH? >> JUST AN OPTION.
IT REALLY IS FOR DISCUSSION. DO NOT HIT ME UNTIL THIS WEEKEND.
>> SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. LOOK INTO IT. WE ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY EITHER WAY. SAFETY, POSSIBLE SAFETY THING. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> AS FAR AS FUNDING WE MIGHT AS WELL TALK ABOUT THAT NOW. >> COME ON, JACK.
>> I WAS WAITING ON THAT PART. >> NO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THERE IS FUNDING ALLOCATED.
WE ARE GOOD SO JACK, IT IS TIME. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A BEACH ACCESS, WE CONSIDER IT AS A PARK. ALWAYS SAY AT THIS TIME PROCEED, FINALIZE THE DESIGN. GET IT OUT ON THE STREET. WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU ONCE WE HAVE THAT AWARD, YOU WILL THEN IDENTIFY THE ACCOUNT. MOVE FORWARD AND BUILD IT.
>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> WE HAVE A BLUE TUBE STATION THERE?
>> YES, WE DO. >> SATISFY THE COUNTY. KEPT OUR WORD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]
>> ANY MEMBER WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.
>> CITY COMMISSION BOARD AND COMMITTEE UPDATES. >> COMMISSIONER IS NOT WITH US.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, LIKE TO START? >> SURE.
SO BOARD MEETINGS HAVE BEEN GOING VERY WELL. I FOLLOWED UP WITH I GUESS OUR
TRANSPORTATION MEETING WHICH THE COMMISSIONER CHAIRS. >> SPORT MOVES.
>> UPDATING AND ADOPTED THAT. THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. I HAD MY FIRST MEETING WITH THE CHILDREN'S SERVICE COUNCIL BOARD. THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.
A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, PHASES AROUND TAKEN ON DIFFERENT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
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LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD AND RESOURCES THAT THEY ALLOCATE TO THE COMMUNITY.DID LEARN ÃA ROUNDTABLE. BUT I DID ÃA NEW GROUP COMING TO THE AREA THAT I HEARD OF.
SAVE FAMILIES FOR CHILDREN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD OF THAT ONE.
ORGANIZATION LOOKING TO HAVE A FOOTPRINT. PROBABLY MEET WITH THEM.THEY ARE IN SURROUNDING COUNTIES. THEY PROVIDE KIND OF A SAFE HARBOR FOR CHILDREN KIND OF ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. ESTABLISH KIND OF A SHORT-TERM GAP BETWEEN HOMEBREWED SAY SOMETHING IS GOING ON, ALREADY PLACED THEM THERE. IF IT IS FOR THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS ETC. KIND OF A UNIQUE PROGRAM. SOMETHING TEMPORARY, KIND OF A STOP GAP IS HOW UNDERSTAND. OUR PARTNERS TO THE NORTH, SOME PLACES UP THERE.
THIS IS WORKING PRETTY WELL. THEY ARE NEW TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
LOOKING TO ESTABLISH RELATIONSHIPS AROUND HERE. LOOKING FOR TEMPORARY HOMES I GUESS TO PLACE SOME OF THESE KIDS INTO. LOOK TO HEAR MORE FROM THEM AND I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE PERSON AND HAVE A MEETING AND MAYBE BASED UPON THAT, INVITE THEM INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GIVE THEM AN OVERVIEW. OTHER THAN THAT, THE ROUNDTABLE MEETING I AM SORRY, THAT MEETING. WE ARE VIRTUAL.
THE TPO, WE HAD A FORM, WE MET. VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION THERE. I THINK THAT IS IT FOR BOARDS RIGHT NOW. THE PLANNING BOARD, THEY MET AS WELL.E MET VIRTUALLY.
EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING. >> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE, I MISSED THE LAST TPO. THE LONG-RANGE PLAN.
I GOT APPROVED? >> YES. UNANIMOUS.
>> AWESOME. A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING. I THINK I MENTIONED IT LAST MEETING, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. FOUR AND FIVE YEAR PLAN.
ORANGE AVENUE BEING ONE. REPAVE 33RD STREET. I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS ON OUR RADAR SCREEN. MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE.
A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN MINISTRY OF WHAT TO DO WITH FRIDAY FESTIVAL AND TRYING TO KEEP EVENTS UP AND TRYING TO KEEP FOLKS ENGAGED IN WHAT IS HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW KEEP IT LIGHT BUT INTERESTING. WE DO STRUGGLE, THE HARDEST PART IS VOLUNTEER BASE. FRIDAY FESTIVAL TAKES A LOT. IT TAKES A LOT TO OPERATE, TO MANAGE. MAIN STREET HAS TWO PAID STAFF MEMBERS AND THAT IS IT.
THAT IS THE REVENUE SOURCE FOR MAIN STREET. ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR STILL HAPPENING.
VIRTUAL. GOING WELL. DORIS AND MICHELLE DO A GREAT JOB.HEY HVE A LOT OF IDEAS. A MATTER OF PUTTING THEM INTO EFFECT.
GETTING THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD. FRIDAY FESTIVAL.
MIGHT BE CONVERSATION COMING SOON ABOUT FRIDAY FESTIVAL. MAY BE SO?
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE AN WHEN AND HOW. >> COMPLETELY UP TO THE
ORGANIZERS. >> UNDERSTAND. JUST SHARING THE INFORMATION.
I GOT TO ATTEND MY FIRST CHAMBER MEETING, I GUESS MEMBERS RIGHT? THAT WAS GOOD. ALWAYS GOOD TO CATCH UP WITH FOLKS AND SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING. I DIDN'T SHARE KING'S LANDING. DISCUSSION OF THE HOTEL.
>> IN THE NEW FORT PIERCE MAGAZINE. >> GOOD.
SOME QUESTIONS TO THE COUNTY, ALWAYS GETS SENT OVER TO THE CITY ABOUT THE PORT AND DIRECTOR. REFERRED TO OUR COUNTY PEERS ABOUT THAT ONE.
DBA, THEY MEET THE LAST WEEK OF THE MONTH. WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT PARKING, THEY HAVE PROGRAMS, SOME IDEAS, SOME THOUGHTS ON UTILIZING THE PARK MORE.
MIXED FEELINGS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT APRIL. SO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
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RESURFACE IN THE NEXT MONTH BEFORE APRIL GETS HERE. WE WILL SEE. AM GETTING MORE MIXED FEELINGS THAN I HAVE BEFORE. I THINK FOLKS, THEY MIGHT BE OVER THE PARK LET'S. I AM NOT SURE. TO REPORT TO YOU GUYS ON WHAT THE DBA FEELS. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? SINCE THE COMMISSIONERS OUT, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, A COUPLE BOARDS, FIRE BOARD MEETING.THE TDC. I DON'T HAVE MY LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
DO WE HAVE ALTERNATES? DO WE NEED TO COVER ANYTHING? >> WE HAVE THE LINKIN PARK MINISTRIES BOARD. WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE. THE FIRE BOARD IS A DIRECT
APPOINTMENT, THAT IS RIGHT. >> SAME THING FOR THE TDC. DIRECT APPOINTMENT.
>> DO WE HAVE STAFF THAT GOES TO THAT? >> NO MA'AM.
>> CAN WE? >> SOMETIMES WE DO. I CANNOT SAY WE HAVE A
DEDICATED STAFF. WE ATTEND AS NEEDED. >> IS A WAY TO DO THAT IN THE
COMMISSIONER'S ABSENCE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP? >> WE CANNOT REPRESENT THE
COMMISSIONER. >> JUST TO BE PRESENT. >> WE HAVE DONE THAT.
MINISTRY, WE DO NOT ATTEND. >> JOHNSON THE ALTERNATE FOR THAT.
>> I JUST GOT WORD THAT WE HAD A MEETING THIS MONTH. >> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT ARE WE HEARING? >> THEY CANNOT TAKE THE COMMISSIONERS PLACE, BUT THEY
CAN ATTEND. >> IF WE COULD.>> IS THAT POSSIBLE MR. MIMS?
>> VERY POSSIBLE. >> I THINK I AM GOOD. >> SO ON THAT SAME ÃI THINK THE TDC INVOLVED IN THIS. THIS IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE TAKING OF THE INLET.
WHICH ALSO CREATED THE PORT, SO DIRECTOR IS LEADING, PULLING TOGETHER SOME PEOPLE AND MR. MIMS IS GOING TO SEND SOMEBODY FROM THE STAFF FOR MEETING TO COME UP WITH A WAY AS TO CELEBRATE. THIS 100TH ANNIVERSARY. BECAUSE IT WAS, THE PORT WILL NOT BE THERE IF THE INLET HADN'T BEEN DOG. A BIG CELEBRATION FOR THAT WHOLE AREA. SO ON THE TREASURE COAST COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WE MET IN PERSON. WE HAD A REPORT FROM EACH OF THE COUNTIES ABOUT HOW THEY WERE DEALING WITH THE VACCINATION. PETER O'BRIEN WENT FIRST.
THEN THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES SAID WELL, WE DON'T NEED ÃWE HAVE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE.
ALL FOUR COUNTIES HAVING THE SAME EXPERIENCE. THEY ARE HAVING EFFECTIVE VACCINATION EVENTS BUT THE DEMAND IS SO MUCH GREATER THAN THE SUPPLY.
COMMISSIONER BRIAN, HE PREDICTED IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS THIS WILL SHAKE OUT AND END UP BEING VACCINATIONS FROM PLACES LIKE PUBLIX AND CVS AND WALGREENS.
BUT EVERYBODY IS FRUSTRATED, I GUESS THE STATE SIGN-UP SHEET IS SOMEHING CALLED EVERY BRIDGE. SPEAKING OF THIS MORNING. THE DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN USING EVENTBRITE. SO THEN WE ALSO LEARNED THAT THE COAST COUNCIL, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IS GOING TO WRITE A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF YOU KNOW THE PLANNING COUNCIL.
WE WERE ABLE TO SAY FORT PIERCE IS ALREADY DOING THAT THANKS TO YOU COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
WE ARE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. WITH THE TREASURE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES, HB TO 19 INTRODUCED BY REPRESENTATIVE FISHER. IT WOULD FURTHER ERODE, ANYTHING ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO LEGISLATIVE ALERTS HAVE BEEN ISSUED BY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.
ON THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY, THE FORD PEACE AUTHORITY WAS AWARDED 3.8
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MILLION GRANT TO LINE THE SEWER PIPES AND PREVENT ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE.THAT IS VERY BIG DEAL FOR US. VERY FEW OF THOSE GRANTS AWARDED.
DTO GRANT. ALSO A LOW-PRESSURE SEWER SERVICE FINANCING PROGRAM AND NOW TO IN CERTAIN AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO CONVERT PEOPLE FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER. AGGRESSIVE ON THAT FRONT. I AM HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT IS ALL OF THE INFORMATION FROM MY BOARDS. WE CAN MOVE ON.
SO I CAN
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