Feb 09, 2021 Planning Board

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> JOHNSON SCOTT.

HERE. >>BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE MR. SANDER S WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SITTING OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MR.

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SANDERS IS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD.

AND WE JUST RAN OUT OF SPACE. AS WELL AS MISS CLEMSON SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE. SHE IS ONE OF OUR ACTIVE BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR SEATS

[a. Future Land Use Map Amendment - Walsh Kings Highway - 2564 S. Kings Highway]

AND SEPARATING YOURSELF FROM US.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I COULD SEE YOU SO I WOULDN'T FORGET ABOUT YOU. OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS ITEM 6 A. WE WILL BE ACTING AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCIES ON THIS ITEM. ALONG WITH THIS ITEM, I AM GOING TO MOVE ITEM D, 7 D UP TO 7 A AND WE WILL HEAR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS TOGETHER. AND MR. CREAGAN WILL BE PRESENTING. WE WILL BE PRESENTING TWO MOTIONS SEPARATELY ON EACH I ITEM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WE HAVE A ZONING 2564 SOUTH KINGSHIGHWAY.

THE CURRENT FUTURE USE ON THE PROFESSION IS MXD, MIXED USE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY TWO DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE, E 2. THE REQUEST TO CHANGE FROM MIXED USE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS FROM SINGLE FAMILY TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND USES IN ZONING AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY EFFECT THE GENERAL SAFETY AND HEALTH AND WELFARE. WE WILL MAKE ONE MOTION TO THE LAND USE FIRST BY THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING AGENCY OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION OR DISAPPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND WE WILL STOP RIGHT HERE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CREAGAN FROM OUR BOARD?

>> MR. CHAIR. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES,

MA'AM. >> I SEE THEY DON'T HAVE SEWER AND WATER THERE YET. IS IT PLANNED TO BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT THE CITY SEWER AND WATER OR WILL THEY WAIT UNTIL

IT GETS THERE? >> ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. AND I HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY JUST TURNED IN THIS AFTERNOON.

>> SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR RESPONSE.

>> THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING WATER AND SEWER SERVICE IN CONJUNCTION WITH FPUA AT THE TIME OF THE

APPROVAL. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

>> MR. CHAIR, MR. CREAGAN, THE PROPOSED USE OF THE SITE THAT THE ZONING WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.

WE ARE GOING FROM TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE DENSITY TO SOMETHING I AM GOING TO ASSUME WILL BE CONSIDERABLY

MORE. >> RV STORAGE AND SELF-STORAGE AND THE PLANNED USE OF THE PROPERTY.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC MEETING.

I AM GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT HERE, FULL, PLEASE.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PRESENTER OF THE PROJECT, WE WILL BE USING THE THREE-MINUTE RULE FOR ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING.

PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU WERE THE PRESENTER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD BRAD CURRY WITH DESIGN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

WE WILL HAVE WATER AND SEWER EXTEND TODAY PROPERTY.

AND MR. CREAGAN WAS CORRECT, SOME RV STORAGE, FLEX SPACE AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT USES AND COMBATABLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THE PROJECT.

>> MR. CHAIR. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES,

MA'AM. >> IS THIS GOING TO BE A SUB

STORAGE FACILITY. >> WOMAN, FOR RVS AND A PORTION LIKE FLEX SPACE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A LITTLE OFFICE AND A LITTLE WAREHOUSE MANUFACTURING SPACE IN THE BACK.

TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS BUT NOT SELF-SERVICE.

>> OTHER THAN THE STORAGE FACILITY, CLEANUP FACILITIES

FOR RVS? >> I THINK EACH OF THE AUTOMOBILE UNITS WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF SEWER CONNECTION AND WILL BE INTERNAL TO THE ACTUAL UNIT IF IT WAS GOING TO BE.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR WITH THE DESIGN.

>> OTHER THAN PEOPLE STORING THEIR RVS THERE.

THERE WILL BE A FACILITY FOR A DRIVE-UP --

>> WOMAN, NO A DRIVE-UP P PUMP-OUT.

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>> THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY

FURTHER QUESTIONS? >> MR. CHAIR, OKAY, JUST SO I GET THIS CLEAR. R V STORAGE IS THE PRINCIPAL USE. AND FLEX SPACE WITH OFFICE

WAREHOUSE. >> YES, SIR.

>> WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED USES. AUTOMOTIVE, BODY SHOPS.

>> THE USES CONSISTENT WITH THE C 3 ZONING.

>> CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE C 3 ZONING.

>> CONSISTENT AROUND THE ZONING AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: IF I MAY, CHAIR.

AT THIS TIME WE ARE REVIEWING THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THE BOARD WILL BE GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY OF LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN WHEN IT IS REVIEWED BY STAFF TO THE TRC.

ALL OF THE REVIEW AGENCIES INTERNAL TO THE CITY AS WELL AS OUTSIDE. WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND PRESENT ALL OF THAT TO YOU AT ANOTHER BOARD HEA

HEARING. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I AM GLAD YOU POINTED THAT OUT. IF WE WANT TO KEEP OUR QUESTIONS TO THE REZONING IS ISSUE.

THE SITE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN PASSED ON TO US YET.

I BELIEVE IT IS SITTING ON THE CORN ARE OF THE DESK FOR REVIEW BY PLANNING DEW POINT AND I AM SURE WE WILL SEE IT IN THE NEXT

30 OR 60 DAYS. >> I UNDERSTAND IT IS COMING FORWARD BUT THE INTENSITY OF THE USE.

FROM AN RV STORE FRAGILE STOYLT MORE MODERATE INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE. BUT I GUESS YOU ARE CORRECT, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LOOK THAT BUT THE ZONING ISSUE ALREADY IN THE REAR VIEW MI MIRROR.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: FAIR ENOUGH. NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

NOT SEEING ANY, THIS IS STILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. ANYBODY SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. NOT SEEING ANYONE, GO BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. A MOTION BY MISS BAKER AND A SECOND BY MISS JON-SCOTT FOR APPROVAL.

CALL THE ROLLS-ROYCE. >>NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES.

>>HAROLD ARBURY: YES. >>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES.

>> MISS JOHNSON SCOTT: YES. >>BOB BURDGE: YES.

[d. Rezoning - Walsh Kings Highway - 2564 S. Kings Highway]

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES.

>> SECOND PART 2564 SOUTH KINGS SMIRP ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

SO THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING BOARD TO APPROVE THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AS STAFF IS PROPOSING OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PRESENTER? NOT SEEING ANY. AGAIN, I WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. NOT SEEING ANYONE.

COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT: I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I KNOW IS NOT THE TIME PRESENT MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONCERN FROM MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY IN THE RESPECT TO GOING FROM TWO UNITS PER ACRE TO THE GENERAL

COMMERCIAL. >> NOT ANY CONCERNS EXPRESSED

BY THE COMMUNITY. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANYTHING FURTHER. NOT HEARING ANY?

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MR. IRCHAIR, I WILL MOVE

APPROVAL. >>MARCIA BAKER: SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MISS JOHNSON SCOTT AND SECOND BY MISS BAKERER.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT: YES.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ITEM B, PETERS ROAD AND TWO PARCELS

[a. Annexation - Project Hurricane - 2398 Peters Road (2 Parcels)]

INVOLVED IN THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, AN ACTION FOR ANNEXATION FOR 2398 PETERS ROAD THAT COMPRISES TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS. THE FUTURE LAND USE MXD MIXED USE IN THE COUNTY IF ANNEXED OUR MIXED-USE CATEGORY ZONING ARE RS 2, SINGLE FAMILY TWO DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE AND E 2 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS AND FUTURE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT CHANGE ALONG WITH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW ON THIS SITE ONCE

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ANNEXATION IS COMPLETE. AS PROPOSED MEETS THE STANDARDS OF POLICY 1.11 REGARDING ANNEXATIONS.

PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE CITY COMMISSION. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING BOARD. YOU CAN APPROVE THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: QUESTIONS TO MR. CREAGAN BY THE BOARD. NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ANYBODY SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

>> AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON. BRAD CURRY REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THE ANNEXATION REQUEST.

WE ARE EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE CITY AND HAPPY TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUESTIONS? DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY.

>> THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? I WILL RETURN BACK TO THE BO BOARD.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM OUR BOARD? NOT HEARING ANY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. BRODERICK.

SECOND BY MIS-C LEMONS. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY?

CALL THE ROLL. >>HAROLD ARBURY: YES.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JON-SCOTT: YES.

[b. Text Amendment - Chapters 4 and 125: Sale of Alcoholic Beverages]

ITEM C, TEXT AMOUNT CHAPTER 4 SALES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND WILL BE PRESENTED BY MISS GUERRA.

AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT THIS BOARD WAS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN PURSUING WITH THE COMMISSION TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO SHOULD BE MUSIC TO OUR EARS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN REBECCA GUERRA, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THE FIRST OF TWO TEXT AMOUNTS TAT YOU ALLUDED TO PREVIOUSLY.

BOTH OF WHICH HAVE GONE BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION UNDER ITS CONFERENCE AGENDA AND REVIEWED EACH ONE THESE ITEMS AND GAVE US THE METHODOLOGY OF WHICH TO DO THE RESEARCH NECESSARY TO PRODUCE THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS. SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE SEEING TODAY IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE SUBSEQUENT ONE HAS GONE BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION THROUGH THE CONFERENCE AGENDA AND HAS BEEN AGREED IS APPROPRIATE MOVING FORWARD. SO NOW WE GO THROUGH THE OFFICIAL TEXT AMENDMENT PROCESS AS WE WOULD NORMALLY DO FOR ANY OTHER TEXT AMENDMENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 4, SECTION 4-6 AND CHAPTER 125, SECTION 125-401. TECHNICALLY, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THE PLANNING BOARD'S APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF CHAPTER 125, BUT BECAUSE THEY BOTH GO HAND IN HAND AND WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO JUST BRING 125 FORWARD.

I WILL BRING THEM BOTH FORWARD TO YOU SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION IS DOING.

SO WHAT DID WE DO? VERY QUICKLY, WE LOOKED AT THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES AND CITIES SURROUNDING THIS CITY.

AND WE FOUND RANGES BASICALLY FROM DISTANCES BETWEEN USES.

SO EVERYTHING BETWEEN SCHOOLS, RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, OTHER LIKE ESTABLISHMENTS, RESIDENTIAL AND PARKS AND P PLAYGROUNDS. SO THIS IS THE RANGE THAT WE FOUND. WHEN AT THAT CAME TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT OUR CHART AND SEE WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN PLACE, WE REALLY LOOKED TO OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS.

THAT IS THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE BEFORE YOU NOW.

WHAT I HAVE DONE IS COPIED THE LITERAL TABLE THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN CHAPTER 4. AND I HAVE STRUCK THROUGH AND UNDERLINED THE CHANGES WE ARE PROPOSING.

AGAIN LOOKED THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY. AND THE NUMBERS ARE PER MISS I HAVE IT AND MORE RELAXED WHAT THE -- PERMISSIVE OF WHAT THE CITY DOES AND COUNTY DOES. THIS IS IN BETWEEN.

IT DOESN'T GO TOO FURTHER TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE, OR LESS RESTRICTIVE BUT NOW WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER HANDLE OR AS I SAY A MUCH MORE COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO HOW IT CAN BE DONE AND HOW IT WORKS. IF THIS NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED IN THE FUTURE, IT IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.

THAT BEING SAID. THE BULK OF THE CHANGES HAPPEN WITHIN THE FIRST THREE USES. SO LOOKING AT THIS, THE WAY THAT YOU READ THIS IS, IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT NEXT TO A

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RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION, YOU WILL SEE THAT AS THIS CELL RIGHT HERE. SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT AND SCHOOL IS THIS CELL RIGHT HERE.

EACH ONE OF THESE CORRESPONDS TO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO INDIVIDUAL USES. ALL OF THESE HAVE TO DO WITH ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION OR O OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE -- THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT BETWEEN LIKE AND LIKE. A RESTAURANT NEXT TO A RESTAURANT OR A BAR NEXT TO B BAR, WE ELIMINATED THAT TOGETHER. QUITE FRANKLY A LICENSE ISSUED FOR A BAR OR A LICENSE ISSUED FOR A RESTAURANT, UNLESS OVERREACHING PROBLEMS THROUGH CODE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN HANDLE THAT IN THAT RESPECT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T TAPE THE SUBSEQUENT BAR OR RESTAURANT COMING IN AND PAYING FOR THE SINS OF THE PREDE PREDECESSOR.

WHAT THAT DOES IS ELIMINATE THAT ALL TOGETHER.

THAT WAS THE EASIEST ONE. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS SCALED BACK THAT 600 TO 100. NOW I RESEARCHED WHAT THAT 1600 MEANT. A BLOCK, TWO BLOCKS, THREE BLOCKS. AND I COULDN'T FIND A CONSISTENT MEASUREMENT. A UNIT OF MESH THURMENT MADE SENSE. WHAT I THINK LEGISLATIVE INTENT WAS TO COME UP WITH A CERTAIN DISTANCE THAT WAS COMPROMISED AND THIS WAS DONE BACK WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE '80S.

WE SCALED THAT BACK TO 1,000. WE PICKED 1,000 BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY DOUBLE WHAT WE HAVE IS 500 FEET.

A NUMBER THAT PEOPLE CAN GRASP. QUITE FRANKLY, A NUMBER THAT IS EASY TO MEASURE ON THE MAP. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU MEASURE DOOR TO DOOR. YOU DON'T GO AS THE CROW FLIES, WOULD YOU GO AS YOU WOULD WALK AND DRIVE.

THROUGH A SIDEWALK OR THROUGH A ROADWAY.

SO THAT IS HOW THE MEASUREMENT IS DONE.

WE TRY TO AGAIN USE COMMON SENSE NUMBERS AND APPROACH FOR WHAT THE NEW NUMBERS. 1600 FEET AND REDUCED THEM TO 1,000. WE DIDN'T TOUCH THE MINIMUM DISTANCE TO BE REQUIRED FOR O OFF-PREMISE.

THE OFF-PREMISE LICENSE IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

YOU CAN LITERALLY TAKE THE ALCOHOL BEER, OR HARD SPIRITS AND TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT LCATION.

THAT IS A PRETTY SERIOUS LICENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO PULL AND NOT MANY ARE OFFERED WITHIN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS LEFT THAT ALONE.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM.

NOT SOMETHING THAT COME BEFORE THIS BOARD OR CITY COMMISSION.

WE DIDN'T FEEL IT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED NOR WAS ANYONE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE CHANGED. SO WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THAT ALONE AND SEE HOW IT WORKS. AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THE WAIVER DISTANCES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED HAVE NOT HAD TO DO WITH THIS. THEY HAD TO DO WITH THE RESTAURANTS NEXT TO RESTA RESTAURANTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITHIN THIS TABLE.

WE HAVE ALSO DONE TWO CHANGES TO SECTION C AND SECTION D.

SO WHAT WE DID AS PART OF OUR REVIEW OF WHERE THE LICENSES EXIST IN THIS CITY, WE FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE LICENSES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, EXIST NOT JUST WITHIN DOWNTOWN, BUT ALONG OKEECHOBEE, ORANGE AVENUE PAST PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT AND U.S. 1. THESE ARE AREAS THAT ARE ARTERIAL ROAD AND HEAVILY TRAVELED AND A BROAD MIX OF USES AROUND THEM AND VERY LITTLE RESIDENTIAL AND IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HOLD THESE STANDARDS TO THESE PROPERTIES.

AGAIN, WHAT WE HAVE ADDED ON HERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LITERALLY ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.

IF YOU WERE ONE PARCEL SEPARATED.

YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND QUITE FRANKLY IN SOME CASES, THAT MAY EFFECT A RESTAURANT THAT IS TUCKED IN BACK OF A HOTEL OR A BAR TUCKED IN BACK OF A SHOPPING PLAZA.

WE CAN'T GRAB ALL OF THEM, BUT, AGAIN, TAKING A COMMON SENSE APPROACH, IF YOU WERE ADJACENT TO A RIGHT-OF-WAY.

ONE OF THESE RIGHT-OF-WAYS. THIS TABLE IS NOT GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO YOU. YOU ARE GOING TO FALL UNDER THE SAME WAIVER THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA WOULD HAVE.

THE LAST SECTION IS ACTUALLY THE SECTION THAT I LIFTED FROM THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS WHEN AN ESTABLISHMENT HAS A LIQUOR LICENSE AND A CHURCH -- SORRY, A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION HAS COME IN AFTERWARDS OR SCHOOL HAVE COME IN AFTERWARDS, AND THAT BAR OR THAT ESTABLISHMENT SHOULD GO AWAY. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THEY WANT TO RE-ESTABLISH THAT LICENSE BECAUSE LICENSES ARE GRANTED.

THEY DON'T RUN WITH THE PROPERTY.

THEY RUN WITH THE INCIDENT TEE THAT PULLS THE LICENSE.

THEY ARE OFTENTIMES PENALIZED BECAUSE NOW YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A SCHOOL OR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION NEXT TO THEM. I EDED THAT SECTION FROM THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE THAT PROTECTS THAT PROPERTY AND

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ALLOWS THEM TO PULL A LICENSE AND HOWEVER IT -- IN THE INSTANCES WHERE IT IS 500 FEET AND WHERE THE CITY HAS DECIDED FOR AN OFF PREMISE LICENSE, NOT ON PREMISE, BUT A OFF PREMISE LICENSE IF YOU ARE WITHIN 500 FEET, YOU WILL BE RE-EXAMINED BY THIS BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION IF YOU CHOOSE TO ASK FOR A WAIVER OF DISTANCE. WE HAVE GIVEN THEM A BREAK FROM ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION. IF IT IS AN OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND THOSE ARE -- THEY HAVE MORE TANGIBLE EFF EFFECTS, RIGHT. THERE COULD BE MORE MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES AS A RESULT OF OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM THAT PASS.

THAT IS WHY THAT 500 FEET WAS CHOSEN.

A NUMBER WE KNOW. A NUMBER THAT WE KNOW WORKS FOR US AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY IS ISSUES WITH IT.

THOSE ARE IN EFFECT THE CHANGES TO CHAPTER 4.

AGAIN NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD.

IF I BRING YOU 125, WHAT YOU SEE NEXT WILL NOT MAKE SENSE.

BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, ANY QUESTIONS ON CHAPTER 4.

>> YES. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED, THE PEACOCK HURTS DISTRICT IS

SUBJECT TO THE RESTRICTIONS? >> YES, MA'AM.

IS. >> WHAT WE WILL BE DOING AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR TEXT AMENDMENTS, QUITE FRANKLY COMING IN THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR GIVEN THE HERE IS AMOUNT OF TEXT AMENDMENTS WE HAVE -- SURPRISE, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE SOON. WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING A OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR THE PEACOCKS ARTS DISTRICT AND OVERLAY FOR AVENUE D. WITHIN THOSE OVERLAY DISTRICTS THINGS LIKE ON-PREMISE AND O OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

NOT THAT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS OR DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THEM. WE WILL LOOK AT THEM WITH A HOLISTIC APPROACH AND GIVEN THE KIND OF COMMENTARY WE HAVE SEEN

ON THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. >> MR. CHAIR, JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT QUESTION. I THINK A CRITICAL QUESTION AND THAT SPUR THIS ALONG TO BEGIN WITH IS THAT THE PEACOCK IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE. DROP A PIN ON THE CORNER OF ORANGE AND 7TH, MULTIPLE CHURCHES WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THOSE LOCATIONS. NOT ONE OR TWO AND PROBABLY HALF A DOZEN. WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING THEN IS THAT BASED ON THIS REVISION, THE 1600-FOOT RULE IS NOW ELIMINATED FOR A RESTAURANT. FOR A BAR AND NIGHT CLUB NOW CHANGED TO 1,000 FEET. AND -- BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. WITHIN 1,000-FOOT DIAMETER OF THAT LOCATION, YOU WILL HIT MULTIPLE CHURCHES.

>> WE HAVE RELAXED THEM, BUT, AGAIN, WE HAVE RELAXED THE STANDARDS WHERE IT IS BETWEEN AND BETWEEN.

IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT NEAR A RESTAURANT OR A BAR NEXT TO A BAR, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THOSE USES ALONG ORANGE AVENUE.

IT IS THE TRUTH. MUCH OF THE LICENSE THAT'S WE HAVE IS NOT FOR THE HARD SPIRITS.

THEY ARE IN FACT FOR BEER AND WINE SALES.

NOT FOR ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION. THEY ARE FOR OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION. YOU SEE FOR THE GROCERY STORES, THESE DISTANCES ARE DISTANCES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN CHAL CHALLENGED, IF YOU WILL. THEY NEVER ASKED FOR WAIVER DISTANCES TO OBTAIN THOSE LICENSES.

>> OFF-PREMISE. >> THE OFF PREMISES.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE DEBATE POINT.

THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS YOU HAVE RESTAURANTEURS THAT PREVIOUSLY WOULD NOT COME IN THE DISTRICT AND ALL THESE HURDLES TO GO THROUGH AND APPLICATION WOULD BE DENIED BASED ON THE 1 1600-FOOT REQUIREMENT. YOU ARE SAYING THE 1600 FEET WITH ROAD DISTANCE NOT AS THE CROW FLIES.

THAT CLARIFIES THAT. AND GO BACK AND TOUCH ON -- YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THESE PARTICULAR AREAS PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICTS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY LOOKING FOR THE OVERLAY. WILL HAVE THE SAME DOWNTOWN WAIVER. CAN YOU GIVE US MORE

INFORMATION. >> WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A CART BLANCHE WAIVER. THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AS A RESULT OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE WE HAVE HEARD LOUD AND LEAR, THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE BARS.

ANY MORE OF THOSE HARD TYPE OF LIQUOR SALES AND ALLOW IT IN SOME REGARD. UNLESS THEY ARE AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. WE NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH TO FIND THE RIGHT NUMBER WHAT THAT RIGHT NUMBER IS GIVEN THE URBAN CORE IN THE ARTS DISTRICT AND AVENUE D.

EVERYTHING BASICALLY NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

THAT 1 THOUSAND IN DISTANCE MEANS NOTHING WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. WE NEED TO KNOW WITHIN A HEAVILY URBAN CORE. THE CITY OF PORT ST. LOUISE DOESN'T HAVE A HEAVY URBAN C CORE.

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WE ARE VERY LIMITED WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORS.

OUR SISTER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HEAVY URBAN DOWNTOWN CORES LIKE WE DO. VERO IS THE CLOSEST BUT A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES WHICH QUITE FRANKLY MORE STRICT THAN THIS. WE NEED TO BRANCH OUT AND DO MORE RESEARCH. WE THINK IT IS PART OF A GREATER CONVERSATION. AND TO MAKE SURE NUMBERS

ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE. >> JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE, MR. CHAIR. THE OVERLAY IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPONENT TO THE OVERLAY.

THE OVERLAY, PER EXAMPLE WHEN I START A RESTAURANT AND I HAVE NO ISSUES BUT I DON'T MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IN PEACOCK 50% OF WHAT IT USED TO BE BUT STILL DOESN'T EXIST.

ASSUMING IN THE OVERLAY ALL OF THOSE CONTINGENT ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED IN LIKE KIND WITH THIS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE PARKING AND BUFFERING AND NOW WE WOULD REQUIRE A FENCE BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL USE AND RESIDENTIAL USE OR AN URBAN CORE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU WANT TO PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS BETWEEN THOSE TWO U USES.

BUT WITH A FENCE, THAT BECOMES ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A MYRIAD OF THINGS AS PART OF THE OVERLAY TO TAILOR IT TO QUITE FRANKLY DISTINCT NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A COMMONSENSE APPROACH. THIS RELAXES THE STANDARDS.

WHEN PROJECTS COME IN AND THEY WANT TO GET THE LICENSES, THE VENUE AND THE OPPORTUNITY ASK FOR WAIVERS FROM THE DISTANCE ENVIRONMENT IS STILL OPEN TO THEM THEY COME BETWEEN THE PLANNING BOARD YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO REVIEW AND THE CITY COMMISSION ULTIMATELY HAS. IT DOESN'T GO AWAY.

TO THE ARE THE RULES TO COMPLETELY GO AWAY WE IDENTIFIED AS THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT, BUT EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT WILL HAVE THAT WAIVER -- THE DISTANCE TO

ORANGE AVENUE. >> IF I MAY REBECA AND CHA CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, IN ADDITION TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS WE WILL BE EXAMINING, AVENUE D, PEACOCK, SOUTH BEACH.

WE HAVE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL BEFORE EXTENSION OF OUR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE COMMISSION AND WOULD LIKE TO COME TO US AFTER THE STUDY IS COMPLETED AND A NUMBER OF STUDIES TO LOOK AT OVERLAYS HOW WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT COUNTIES, WITH THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, IT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS REQUIREMENT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT EXTENDING THAT AROUND 7TH THAT DOES IMPACT THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT FROM DELAWARE.

AND WE FELT AT THIS POINT, FOCUS ON THE REAL COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR EXEMPTIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AND WE COME FORWARD WITH THE OVERLAY, THEN WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THEN. >> MR. CHAIR.

I AM STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS.

AND I AM PUTTING ON MY MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER HAT RIGHT NOW.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES TO THE BUSINESS.

WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES TO THE CHILDREN WHO TO WALK THESE AREAS AT THE SCHOOL. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ARE NOT A PARTICULAR PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS.

SO HAVING A BAR THAT SOLD ONLY ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES NEAR A SCHOOL PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

BUT WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT WILL BE SOLD IN THESE -- IN THESE BUSINESSES. THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR CHILDREN NOW, ESPECIALLY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE IS THE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES, THE VAPING. THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT YET WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT THESE KINDS OF BUSINESSES POSSIBLY CLOSER TO SCHOOLS AND I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.

I AM GLAD TO SEE MR. SANDERS OUT THERE.

MAYBE MY MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER HAT IS TOO BIG RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EFFECT, ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE IT WOULD BE TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO MAY HAVE TO WALK THESE CORRIDORS TO AND FROM HOME.

>> MA'AM, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON STUDIES OF OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

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THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE REFLECTIVE ON THE WAIVERS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

AND THE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE CAN'T BE REGULATED BY THESE TYPE OF CODES. AS AN AUNT, I FEEL AND I RECOGNIZE THOSE THINGS, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY OUR HANDS ARE TIED IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF CODES WE CAN WRITE AND THE EFFECTS THAT COME AS A RESULT.

IN THIS CASE, WE STILL HAVE THESE -- WE STILL HAVE SOME DISTANT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE UPHELD.

WE INDUSTRIAL SOME BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RULES AND REGULATION THAT'S NEED TO BE FOLLOWED.

ASIDE FROM WHAT THE STATE AND THE COUNTY ALREADY REGULATE.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME IN PLACE. AND ULTIMATELY -- EVEN BY THE RELAXING OF THESE -- OF THESE NUMBERS, WE THINK THAT IT IS STILL CONSISTENT, AND IT IS STILL SOMETHING WITHIN THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY OR WE WOULDN'T BE

RECOMMENDING IT. >> THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE COMING UP ON THIS AGENDA CONCERNING TWO ARCADES.

THEY ARE WITHIN LESS THAN 1250 FEET OF EACH OTHER.

SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY ARE IN EACH OTHER'S DOORWAY.

IF WE ARE REDUCING DISTANCES FR SUCH BUSINESSES FROM SCHOOLS, THESE BUSINESSES POSSIBLY COULD BE RIGHT IN THE

DOORWAY -- >> ARCADES ARE NOT -- SHE MAKES A GOOD POINT. ARCADES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO

SELL ALCOHOL. >> I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ALCOHOL. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE DIS

DISTANCE. >> WE CAN TALK TO THAT WHEN WE

GET TO THIS. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT. WE WILL BE GETTING INTO PRETTY DEEPLY IN A COUPLE OF MOMENTS. THIS IS STRICTLY FOR ALCOHOLIC

BEVERAGE SALES. >> MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT: NOT WITH THE ARCADES, BUT YOU KNOW THE DISTANCE FROM 2051 TO 2061 JUST ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. OKAY.

MY CONCERN IS NOT WHAT IS GOING MONTH ARCADE BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW CLOSE SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES COULD BE TO SCHOOLS. AND I AM DONE.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YOU ARE TRYING TO FORMULATE A DISTANCE CORRELATION -- CORRELATION OF DISTANCE.

I GET YOU NOW. >> MR. CHAIR?

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES, SIR.

>> I NOTICE THAT THE REPORT THAT YOU GAVE TO US THAT THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVED THIS.

WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAKE SOME SORT OF FORMAL WRITTEN STATEMENT CONCERNING THE POTENTIAL PROLIFERATION OF THESE KIND OF BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY? AND THEIR ASPECT OF HAVING TO POLICE THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING -- AND YOU HAVE EVEN MENTIONED THE WORD AND I WROTE IT DOWN FROM BEFORE IT WAS SAID, THE RELAXING OF STANDARDS. AND THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, A RELAXING OF STANDARDS SO MORE TYPES OF BUSINESSES LIKE THIS CAN BE ALLOWED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE ARE LOOKING AT ALCOHOL. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT ACCIDENT ON SOUTH ANDOVER DRIVE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALCOHOL, BUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT SAID, THE ASPECT OF THE CHILDREN AND SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I AM REAL SURPRISED THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T WRITE SOME SORT OF COMMENT CONCERNING THE PROLIFERATION OF ALCOHOLIC

BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> IF I MAY, CHAIRMAN, WHEN IT COMES TO THE RELAXATION -- HOW IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT. IT WASN'T TO ENCOURAGE BAD TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO HAVE RESTAURANTS NEXT TO RESTAURANTS.

YOU KNOW QUALITY -- LIKE WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OUR DOWNTOWN.

WE ARE HAVING VERY INTERESTING BAR-RESTAURANT TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT VENUES THAT ARE POPPING UP THAT RIGHT NOW ONLY -- THEY ARE ONLY REALLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN.

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SOME AREAS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND ENCOURAGING. WITH RESTAURANTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FOOD COMPONENT IN ADDITION TO THE ALCOHOL.

WE ARE -- I THINK THAT WE ARE KIND OF GETTING OFF TRACK THINKING THAT THESE ARE BAD ELEMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT IS REALLY TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED AT, YOU KNOW, A LIQUOR STORE. ALL AGE RESTRICTED.

AND IF PEOPLE ARE LOITERING, THAT IS A POLICE ISSUE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THE REASON WHY WE DO NOT GET COMMENTS FROM THE POLICE IS THERE ISN'T A VIOLATION THAT THEY ARE OPINING ON. THEY ARE LOOKING AT A CODE REGULATION THAT WE WERE ASKED TO BY THE COMMISSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT. TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE -- WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS.

>> TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.

EVERYTHING THAT HIS HOFFMEISTER STATED IS CORRECT.

PROMPTED BY CITY COMMISSION. NOT PROMPTED BY REDEVELOPMENT.

BUT PROMPTED BY THEM THE WAY TEXT AMENDMENTS -- BY SOMETHNG NOT WORKING. ONE OF BIGGEST INDICATED THE NUMBER OF WAIVERS REQUESTED OF THIS BOARD AND ULTIMATELY OF CITY COMMISSION AND AS THAT NUMBER GOES EXPONENTIALLY GOING UP, OUR JOB AS PLANNERS LOOKING SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM.

WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ASKING FOR SO MANY WAIVERS FROM A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. IS IT WORKING AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE. WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE OTHER COMMUNITIES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO US HAVE SHOWN THAT OUR NUMBERS AREN'T WORKING. THEY AREN'T WORKING BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING REQUEST AFTER REQUEST BECAUSE THE DISTANCE

ARE TOO SMALL. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I WILL MAKE A COMMENT AN THEN TURN TO MR. SANDERS BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU CERTAINLY CAN ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION.

TO REINFORCE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IT WAS THIS BOARD SOME EIGHT TO 12 MONTHS, 13 MONTHS AGO THAT WERE BEING -- WERE SEEING CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION AFTER CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES OF COMBINATIONS OF RESTAURANTS, LIQUOR STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES, AND IT WAS OUR PROMPTING TO THE COMMISSION THAT SAID THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T WORKING. BECAUSE WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY GETTING THESE REQUESTS. SOME OF THEM WE DENIED.

SOME OF THEM WE DIDN'T. THIS BOARD.

MANY OF THEM WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION SO BECAME OBVIOUS THAT THE EXISTING LANGUAGE WAS NOT WORKING FOR THE CITY AND PROMPTING FROM THIS BOARD TO THE COMMISSION THAT THE COMMISSION THEN PROMPTED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY.

MR. SANDERS, YOU MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

>> I DO. AGAIN, MARTY SANDERS.

YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DISTANCE FROM SCHOOLS. AND I STARTED LOOKING AT IT IN A VERY MYOPIC PERSPECTIVE THAT IT MOVES IT ABOUT A QUARTER MILE TO 1,000 FEET. IT GOES FROM ABOUT FOUR CITY BLOCKS. I COUNTED BLOCKS AND WHAT THE DISTANCE IS TO ABOUT THREE CITY BLOCKS.

AND THEN I LOOKED A LITTLE CLOSER.

AND I RECOGNIZED THAT -- THAT'S THE DISTANCE BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE THE UNDERLYING ZONING TO ALLOW IT TO OCCUR IN THAT LOCATION TO START WITH. I LOOKED AT FK SWEET AS AN EXAMPLE. OUR ART BUILDING USED TO BE A BAR AT FK SWEET. IT IS NO LONGER A BAR AND NO ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW A RESTAURANT OR BAR WITHIN THAT 1,000 FEET ALREADY. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A -- YOU KNOW, AN OVERLAY BEYOND THESE MINIMUM DISTANCES SEPARATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WE BELIEVE THAT EVEN IF THE ZONING WAS ALLOWED IN THAT AREA NEAR LINCOLN PARK ACADEMY THAT SOMETHING CAN OCCUR WITHIN 25TH STREET WITHIN THAT DISTANCE NOW GREATER THAN 1100 FEET AND GREATER THAN 1600 FEET. BUT LOOKING AT THOSE WE DID NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WHETHER IT IS A BLOCK FURTHER ON 25TH STREET, AWAY FROM LPA OR A BLOCK CLOSER.

I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO MAKE A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE

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IN HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD RELAX. WE LOOKED AT THAT.

AND WE ARE NOT SEEING A LOT OF ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THIS AS KIND OF A FUNDAMENTAL SMART GROWTH CONCEPT OF DISTRIBUTING RESTAURANTS AND BARS CLOSER IN LOCATION TO THINK OF THE RENAISSANCE BUILDING HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN. YOU HAD 121 TAPAS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC SERVING ALCOHOL 40 FEET FROM WHERE SOMEBODY WAS LIVING. AND THERE IS CERTAINLY MECHANISMS WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITY CAN DEAL WITH THE BAD CHARACTER. AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT, POLICE ACTION. YOU HAVE THOSE ORDINANCES.

SO WE -- WE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE FELT THAT THESE CHANGES WERE NOT PROBLEMATIC.

IT IS ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.

SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY

OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> ONE COMMENT.

FOLLOWING ON THIS YOUR COMMENT. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN KICKING AROUND FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.

DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING BOARD LEVEL.

AND I AM CONVINCED NOT JUST FROM TESTIMONY WE RECEIVED AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING BUT ACTIVE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AROUND TOWN THAT THE. THE REQUIREMENTS AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST ARE STYMIEING PROGRESS IN THESE COMMERCIALS CORRIDORS WHICH ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT DOWNTOWN; HOWEVER, THEY DON'T HAVE THE BENEFITS OF THAT. THEY ARE BEING PUSHED INTO THESE ARBITRARY CATEGORIES PREVENTING REDEVELOPMENT IN THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. PREVENTING IN THE AVENUE D CORRIDOR WHICH ARE TWO AREAS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN LANGUISHING FOR YEARS. WHATEVER ASSISTANCE WE CAN PROVIDE TO GET THOSE CORRIDORS MORE FULLY FUNCTIONAL, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START. THIS IS ONE COMPONENT OF WHAT THOSE AREAS NEED. I WOULD ADVOCATE THE SUPPORT OF THIS. MAY NOT GO FAR ENOUGH.

TIME WILL TELL. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, THE WATERS NEED TO BE TESTED HERE AND THOSE AREAS OF THE CITY SORELY

NEED THIS HELP. >> WITH THAT BEING SAID, HERE IS THE SECOND COMPONENT. THIS IS THE SECOND CODE CHANGES PURVIEW OF THE BOARD CHAPTER 125.

ONE CHANGE, THE C-6 ZONING DISTRICT TO THE LIST OF ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH MAY APPLY FOR. IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE THEM, BUT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR A LICENSE.

WE HAVE, TODAY, RESTAURANTS LIKE THE 12 A BUOY THAT ARE WITHIN THE C 6 DISTRICT AND OTHER RESTAURANTS COMING IN FROM THE MARINE COMMERCIAL THAT DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO EVEN ASK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF A LIQUOR LICENSE.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS OPEN THIS UP AND REAL REEMERGENCE OF THE WATERFRONT AND EVERYTHING COMING ALONG THE WATER AND ALL THESE STUDIES THAT WE ARE DOING AND PARTICULARLY KINGS LANDING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT FORGOTTEN ONE SECTION OF 135 WHICH IS IN THE PURR VIEW PLANNING BOARD.

>> MR. CHAIR, ONE QUESTION ON THAT.

A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE TO MODIFY THAT TEXT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT OF THE REWRITE OR THE REDRAFT OF THE PORT ZONING ISSUE? ARE YOU GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF THAT NOW?

>> YES AND NO. THIS IS QUITE FRANKLY A GAPING HOLE --S IS TOUCH A GAPING HOLE WITHIN OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.

WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE USES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN ALONG THE WATER.

THINGS THAT HAVE C-6 ZONING DISTRICT.

THINGS THAT ALREADY HAVE C-6 ASKING US FOR A LICENSE AND THEY CAN'T EVEN APPLY. WE THINK IT IS A BLATANT --

>> J .

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: WE THINK THIS WAS AN OVERSIGHT.

THE RESTAURANTS ARE ABLE TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND RESTAURANT OPEN FOR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH CAME FORWARD WITH AN ALCOHOL REQUEST AND WE REALIZED THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED.

>> AGAIN IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE THEM.

IT JUST MEANS THEY CAN ASK. WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT OF SECTION 125 BUT WOULD BE NICE IF WE GET THE BLESSING FOR 4-6. THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION AND WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WE BOMBARDED YOU FOR QUESTIONS.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT SEEING ANY.

OPEN TO THE PUBLIC MEETING. ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT, THIS AMENDMENT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

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FURTHER CONVERSATION? NOT HEARING ANY.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MR. CHAIR, I WILL MAKE A

MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MR. BRODERICK MOTION TO APPROVE.

MISS BAKER, SECOND. CALL THE ROLL.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT: NO

BURDGE PWURJZ WOMAN. >>MARCIA BAKER: YES.

>> CLARIFICATION TWO SEPARATE. >> I HAVEN'T PRESENTED THE

SECOND ONE. >> NOSE ARE TWO.

>> THAT IS FINE. NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD TO DO 4-6. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A BLESSING TO GO BEFORE CITY COMMISSION THAT YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE BOTH AND YOU ARE SEEING CHANGE TO 125 IN CONTEXT

TO THE CHANGE TO SECTION 4. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MOTION

HAD HOW MANY YES. >> FOUR YESES AND TWO NOS.

>> WE HAVE A PASS ON THE MO MOTION.

AND YOU ARE BLESSED OVER ITEM 4.

>> SO WE PROCEED TO THE SECOND ONE.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MOVE FORWARD.

>> AGAIN, REBECA GUERRA FOR THE RECORD.

[c. Text Amendment - Chapter 125: Residential Construction & Nonconforming Lots]

TEXT AMENDMENT TO 125 WHICH IS OUR ZONING CODE.

MODIFICATIONS OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF DUPLEXES WITHIN INFILL NEIGHBORHOODS. SPECIFICALLY NONCONFORMING LOTS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LOTS THAT WERE CREATED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF OUR ZONING CODE BACK WHEN IT WAS -- BACK WHEN IT WAS 22 AND NOW 125.

AND IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION FOR ITS OVERLYING ZONING DISTRICT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? CREATE FOR EACH ONE OF THE ZONING DISTRICT ESTABLISHED MINIMUM LOT DEPTH, MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND SIZES.

THE LOTS WERE CREATED THROUGH WARRANTY DEEDS OR PLATTS, THEY NO LONGER MET THE REQUIREMENT, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE OVERLYING ZONING DISTRICTS.

BUT THE LAW PROTECTS THEM. IN OTHER WORDS, IT GRANDFATHERS THEM IN TO ANY NEW CODE CHANGES THAT MAY TAKE PLACE.

THESE CHANGES ARE ONLY GOING TO EFFECT LEGAL I DON'T KNOW CONFORMING LOTS. LET'S MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.

NOT NONCONFORMING LOTS SIMPLY BECAUSE NOW YOU DECIDED TO SPLIT OFF YOUR LOT FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH LEGAL NONCONFORMING LOTS THAT WERE CREATED BY PLAT OR HAD THEIR DIMENSIONS ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE CREATION OR APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CODE WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO IT IS A VERY EACH IN GROUP THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS ISN'T GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR EVERYONE. BUT WHAT IT IS GOING TO DO WITHIN OUR URBAN CAN CORE, AVENUE D, PEACOCK ARTS DIS DISTRICT. THE AREA AROUND -- THE STREET IS ESCAPING ME NOW. RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

>> MILLER. >> THERE YOU GO.

ALONG THOSE AREAS MUCH MORE NARROW LOTS.

MUCH MORE URBAN LOTS. WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THESE LOTS TO BE REDEVELOPED IN SOME CASES OR DEVELOPED IN A LOT OF CASE OS TO A HIGHER DENSITY TO ALLOW FOLKS TO EITHER BE HOMEOWNERS OR HAVE QUALITY NEW HOUSING TYPES AVAILABLE TO THEM. THAT BEING SAID, THE FIRST CHANGE OF SECTION 125 ALLOWS FOR DUPLEXES TO NOW BE BUILT WITHIN THOSE LOTS NOT TRIP TRIPLEXES, NOT QUADRIPLEXS, BUT DUPLEXES ADDED TO THE LIST OF RESIDENTIAL.

AND IN SOME ZONING DISTRICTS BY RIGHT.

LIKE THE R-3 -- SORRY, R-2. ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

CONDITIONAL USE IN THE R-3 AND R-5.

IT NOW ALLOWS YOU TO ASK FOR A DUPLEX TO THIS BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION TO SEE IF A DUPLEX IS APPROPRIATE.

SO HERE WE HAVE OPENED IT UP AND MADE ONE DISTINCTION TO MAKE SURE. IT SAYS "ACCEPT MOBILE HOME." SOMETIMES THAT DISTINCTION ISN'T READ LEGALLY.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS MUCH MORE CLEARER TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE THOUGHT THAT A MOBILE HOME WOULD BE ALLOWED.

IT NEVER WAS. THIS MAKES IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

THIS WAS ONLY MEANT TO OPEN THE DOOR TO DUPLEXES BY RIGHT OR YOU HAVE TO GO BEFORE PLANNING AND CITY COMMISSION FOR DUPLEX.

AGAIN THIS IS ONLY FOR LEGAL NONCONFORMING LOTS.

THAT IS THE FIRST CHANGE THAT IS DONE HERE.

THE SECOND CHANGE AND THE THIRD CHANGE -- SO I AM GOING TO DO THAT QUICKLY AND GO BACK. THESE HAVE TO DO WITH CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THESE TWO SECTIONS AND COMPARING THEM TO

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THE COMP PLAN AND WHEN YOU START TALKING OF DUPLEXES AND ADDING DENSITY TO LOTS THAT WERE INITIALLY CONFIGURED TO A LOWER DENSITY, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THESE NUMBERS.

BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE USING LAND IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY.

THE DEFINITION FOR A NET DENSITY COMPARED TO A GROSS DENSITY IS A VERY DIFFERENT -- VERY DIFFERENT DEFINITION AND A GREAT DISTINCTION. WHERE IN THE UTILIZATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE UTILIZATION OF OPEN SPACE IS TAKEN TO ACCOUNT THE MOST DIFFERENT MANNER THAN NET OR GROSS DENSITY. I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE WOULD ALLOW FOR INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT AND PARCELS ON A CASE-BY-CASE DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT COME IN THAT UTILIZES EVERY INCH OF PROPERTY IN A SMART, CO COMMONSENSE MANNER. THAT ISN'T RESTRICTED BY A DEFINITION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LESS THAN WHAT ITS OVERREACHING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD ALLOW. WHAT THIS DOES IS MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN. NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IT EXCEEDS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS A ZONING AND LAND USE DESIG DESIGNATION. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR A VERY BROAD RANGE AND LARGE AMOUNT OF -- TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS FROM WHAT THE DENSITY WOULD ALLOW.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE REFLECTED WITHIN THESE CODE CHANGES.

AGAIN, NO WAY WITH WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAYS.

IN THIS CASE CLEANED IT UP WITH EIGHT DWELLINGS PER ACRE CONSISTENT WITH THE WORDING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IN THIS NEXT ONE CHANGED IT FROM 5 TO 8, 10 TO 12 AND 15 TO 18. AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE OVERREACHING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION.

NOW SOME OF YOU IF YOU KNOW HOW THE COMP PLAN WORKS, YOU WILL SEE SOME ARE R-4 ZONING DISTRICTS OR SOME WITH R 3 ZONING DISTRICTS WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

NOTHING WITHIN THIS CODE WILL SUPERSEDE WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAYS. EVEN THOUGH THE CODE MAY SAY YOU CAN DO UP TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS -- 12 DWELLING UNITS TO THE R 3. IF YOU HAVE A LOW DESIGNATION YOU ARE RESTRICTED WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAID.

I AM CHANGING THE WORD "SHALL" TO "MAY." IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM WILL THIS SUPERSEDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAPS, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT LAND USE DESIGNATION TO UTILIZE AS MUCH OF YOUR LAND TO BUILD QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT.

AGAIN THIS BOARD APPROVED AS PART OF ITS SITE PLAN CHANGES ANYTHING TWO DWELLING UNITS AND UP WILL HAVE SITE REVIEW OF THE PLAN. WE LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE SITE PLAN THAT COMES IN FOR A DUPLEX AND TREATING ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS FOR THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT WE ARE LOOKING FOR PARTICULARLY WITHIN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SO DIRELY NEED THEM. AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDS TO THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE THREE SECTIONS OF 125 I PRESENTED. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: MISS GUERRA, HAVE WE HAD REQUESTS MADE BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BY OWNERS OF THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAD TO TURN AWAY?

>> YES, SIR. IT IS WHAT PROMPT THIS CHANGE AND SORELY NEEDED FOR THE TYPE OF VACANT PRORTH THAT WE HAVE PARTICULARLY THE AVENUE D CORRIDOR AND THE PEACOCK ARTS CORRIDOR WHERE INVESTORS ARE COMING IN AND LOOKING TO BUILD AS MANY UNITS AS THEY CAN, BUT THE COST OF THE LAND HAS GONE UP SO MUCH, IT DOESN'T OFTEN MAKE FISCAL SENSE TO THEM.

QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE MORE INTERESTED IN GETTING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THESE AREAS WHERE THE HOUSING STOCK THAT EXISTS IS NOT THE SAME KIND OF HOUSING STOCK THAT YOU WOULD SEE OUTSIDE OF THESE CORRIDORS. SO ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO BRING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS WE WILL GRASP THAT GOLDEN RING AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

>> VERY GOOD. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I KNOW HAD YOU SOME.

THAT'S WHY I AM LOOKING AT YOU. >> FIRST OFF, I AM REALLY GLAD YOU ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY SOMETHING.

AN OUTSTANDING WONDERFUL PRESENTATION OF IN-DEPTH INFORMATION AND YOU MAKE IT RELATIVELY SOMEWHAT

UNDERSTANDABLE. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUST TO USE AS AN EXAMPLE, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LAND INVENTORY THAT -- LET'S SAY IN A R-2 ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON

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AVENUE D CORRIDOR. EVEN SOUTH BEACH I KNOW HAS A LOT OF THESE ANTIQUATED SIZED LOTS THAT -- LET'S ASSUME THEY ARE 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOTS AND DON'T MEET THE LAND DENSITY FOR A DUPLEX. DEVELOPER X COMES FORWARD AND WANTS TO BUILD A DUPLEX ON THE UNDERSIZED LOTS.

THE CHANGE WE ARE INCORPORATING HERE WILL ALLOW FOR THAT TO COME IN AS AN ACCEPTED USE BECAUSE IT IS A NONCONFORMING LOT. AND THEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL BE THE ONE TO BE REVIEWING SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND LAND DENSITY PERCENTAGES BECAUSE THAT STILL COMES INTO PLAY, CORRECT. SO THERE IS OTHER MITIGATING FACTORS THERE. THIS IS JUST TAKING IT OUT OF THE CONFORMING A NONCONFORMING SIZE OF THE LOT.

>> JEFF: IF I MAY ADD TO THAT. THROUGH OUR DESIGN REVIEW, WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE WAY THE SITES SIT ON THE ARCHITECTURE AND SITE. NOT ONLY COME FROM REQUEST OF DEVELOPERS BUT EVEN RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO HAVE THEIR MOTHER LIVE CLOSE BUT NOT INSIDE. AND A LOT OF THE TIME -- WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC COME TO ONE OF OUR STAFF MEETINGS WHO VOICED CONCERN ABOUT THE DUPLEXES.

AND WANTING THE DUPLEXES -- IF WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS, TO HAVE A FRONT ON THE STREET. AND NOT HAVE THAT TYPICAL DUPLEX LOOK THAT SEEMS TO BE SO INSTITUTIONAL.

THAT IS WHY WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS LITTLE -- THE SITE -- THE DESIGN REVIEW TO THESE SITES IN ADDITION TO JUST LOOKING FOR HOW -- YOU KNOW THE SETBACKS AND HEIGHT

RESTRICTIONS. >> IT'S A PROBLEM.

I AM GLAD YOU ARE ADDRESSING IT.

BECAUSE PROBABLY MORE NONCONFORMING IN THE OLDER SECTION SOUTH BEACH, ETC, THAT DON'T CONFORM NOR WOULD THEY.

THIS IS A -- IN MY OPINION, A GOOD CHANGE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, THE CITY OWNS SOME THOSE LOTS NOW THAT UNDER OLD CODES CAN'T BE

BUILT ON. >> JEFF: ACTUALLY THEY CAN.

THEY ARE PLATTED. REMEMBER IF THEY ARE PLATTED IN THAT MATTER. THEY CAN'T BE CONSTRUCTED AS

DUPLEXES. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NARROWS DOWN WHAT YOU CAN DO. SHOTGUN HOUSE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR BOARD?

>> YES, WOULD THIS APPLY TO EXISTING BUILDINGS?

>> IF A NONCONFORMING LOT HAD A BUILDING, YES, SOMEONE COULD TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING BUILDING AN AS LONG AS IT WAS A LEGAL NONCONFORMING LOT, THEY COULD BUILD A DUPLEX UPON IT.

>> WELL, SAYS THERE AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE ON -- ON A SUB STANDARD LOT, CAN IT -- CAN THEY NOW APPLY TO HAVE THE

HOUSE MADE INTO A DUPLEX? >> THEY COULD IF IT -- REM REMEMBER, BEING A DUPLEX HAVE OTHER REQUIREMENTS SO IT HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM SIZE. YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE A HOUSE AND SPLIT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND SAY -- A MYRIAD OF THINGS.

THEY COULD. QUITE FRANKLY, I AM NO BUILDING EXPERT, BUT QUITE FRANKLY THE COST INVOLVED IN DOING THE FIRE WALL. DOING THE PARKING.

DOING THE 220 VOLTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR BOTH OF THE HOUSES OR BOTH OF THE UNITS, QUITE FRANKLY I THINK IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER TO KNOCK DOWN THE BUILDING AND BUILD A DUPLEX THAN YOU WOLD BE, BUT YOU COULD CONVERT IT.

BUT IT WILL BE A MUCH MORE -- LONGER PROCESS TO GO THROUGH.

>> IF THEY ARE IN A HISTORIC SECTION, EX-IT I DON'T REMEMBER REMODELING -- EXTERIOR MODELING MAY BE DIFFICULT.

>> THEY CAN. >> A LOT OF OLDER BUILDINGS IN THESE AREAS THAT CAN BE SPLIT INTO DUPLEXES AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND BE ANY

INSTEAD OF ILLEGALLY. >> THEY COULD DO IT.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NOT SEEING --

>> YES. I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THESE OLD LOTS CAN BE USED; HOWEVER, I AM CONCERNED WITH PUTTING MORE ON LESS SMALLER LOTS, GREATER DENSITY.

AND THE POSSIBLE PROBLEMS THAT COULD EXIST FOR THIS.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. JUST A STATEMENT.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WITH THAT I WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. ANYONE HERE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? THIS AMENDMENT? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: A MOTION BY MISS BAKER.

A SECOND BY MISS CLEMONS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT: YES.

>>BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM. >>MARCIA BAKER: YES.

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>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: GOOD JOB. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM E, NO? YES. I HAVE LOST MY SINCE I MOVED THING AROUND. KEEP ME STRAIGHT.

REZONING OF WALSH KINGSHIGHWAY 2564 SOUTH KINGSHIGHWAY.

WHY -- I DID THAT TOGETHER. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM E.

I AM NOT ON D. I AM ON E.

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: MY APOLOGIES.

[e. Conditional Use - Gateway Plaza Arcade - 2051 S. US Highway 1]

[LAUGHTER] >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: LET'S START THAT EVERY. ITEM E, CONDITIONAL USE GATEWAY PLAZA ARCADE. 2051 SOUTH HIGHWAY 1.

MR. CREAGAN IS PRESENTING. >> YES, BEFORE YOU AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR NO NEW CONSTRUCTION 2051 SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE GATEWAY PLAZA.

GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING AN OPERATION OF A 31-MINNESOTA ARCADE. ARCADE AND AMUSEMENT CENTERS ARE ALLOWED IN THE C-3 AND CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ON-SITE, 477 PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE SUBSECTIONS OF THE PLAZA. THE ARCADE WILL BE UTILIZING UNIT NUMBER 7 WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SQUARE F FEET. THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS USE IT 24 PARKING SPACES. AS THE TABULATION IS .75 SPACES TIMES HOWEVER MANY MACHINES THEY HAVE.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING BICYCLE RACK ON THE PROPERTY AS LONG AS -- AS WELL AS AN UPDATED LANDSCAPE PACKAGE AND UPDATES TO THE LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

THIS WILL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OVERALL TRANSFORMATION OF THE PLAZA. JUST A FLOORPLAN TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW THE MACHINES WILL BE SPACED OUT INSIDE.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING TWO CONDITIONS, SUBMIT A LIGHTING PLAN AND PHOTO METRIC SURVEY.

AND. DEMONSTRATES COMPLIANCE WITH CITY'S LIGHTING CODE 1 25316 SUBSECTIONS J AND SHALL BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE ISSUING OF A BUSINESS TAX.

SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT DEMONSTRATES COMPLIANCE WITH THE LANDSCAPE CODE AND WILL BE BEFORE THE ISSUING OF THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF PLANNING BOARD. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE TWO CONDITIONS.

YOU CAN APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH CHANGES AND ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I WOULD LIKE -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION OR NOT AND I AM GOING TO REQUEST IT ANYWAY.

CAN I HAVE THE DATE THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS -- WAS GIVEN US TO VERSUS THE DATE OF THE SECOND APPLICATION ON HERE.

THE ROYAL -- ROYAL ARCADE? >> THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO US BY THE NOVEMBER DEADLINE FOR NOVEMBER TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WENT TO TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER AND THEN THE APPLICANT SPENT THE MONTH OF DECEMBER SATISFYING COMMENTS AND THEN IT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE JANUARY PLANNING BOARD BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A JANUARY

PLANNING BOARD. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: AND THE ARCADE DONE IN NOVEMBER ALSO. .

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: IT WAS NOT DONE.

THEY JUST SUBMITTED IT TWO WEEKS AGO.

I WILL ASK THE PLANNER ON THAT TO CONFIRM THIS.

IT CAME TO US LATER. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THIS WAS TRULY THE FIRST IN THAT LINE-UP.

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: YES, SIR.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: VERY GOOD.

MAY OR MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO THE BOARD BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. ANY QUESTIONS TO MR. CREAGAN BY THE BOARD? MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT.

NO? >> NO.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NONE. OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

ANYONE SPEAKING TO THE PROJECT? YOU LOOK HAPPY.

>> I AM ALWAYS HAPPY. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE SIGN IN.

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> TODD HOWRY WITH RED TAIL LOCATED RIGHT DOWNTOWN HERE.

100 SOUTH 2ND STREET IN THE GALLERIA BUILDING.

[01:10:06]

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: STILL THE GALLERIA BUILDING.

>> IS IT? >> IT IS.

THE ROOSTER RESTAURANT AND LITTLE SHOPS IN THERE.

CONTINUING TO GROW. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I THOUGHT THE NAME WAS GOING TO BE CHANGED TO -- DIDN'T --

HUNTS CROSS BUY THAT BUILDING? >> NO.

>> GUS DATERIS OWN THAT'S BUILDING.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I AM CONFUSED.

COMPLETELY. >> THE STEAKHOUSE CHANGED TO

THE FORT. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I AM

TOTALLY CONFUSED. >> THANK YOU ALL.

STAFF DID A GREAT JOB. I APPRECIATE THE STAFF PRESENTATION. I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE SOME QUESTIONS THAT SEEMS LIKE THIS OFTEN IS THE CASE. I HAVE REPRESENTED K-MART PLAZA FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS AND A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING.

STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS ON SOME OF THESE, SO YOU MAY HAVE SEEN OBVIOUSLY A TRAFFIC SIGNAL NOW BETWEEN THE SEACOAST AND JUST THERE IN THE BURGER KING.

BETWEEN THOSE TWO SPACES THAT WAS PUT IN AND DONE AGAIN WITH NO NEW DEVELOPMENT GOING IN. THEY LOST THE WINN-DIXIE.

THEY LOST THE K-MART. PUT THE SIGNAL IN AND RECEIVED A VARIANCE FROM THE DOT. $400,000 PROJECT.

THEY RECENTLY REPLACED THE ENTIRE ROOF ON TWO-THIRDS OF THE BUILDING, $171 MILLION IMPROVEMENT.

ASBESTOS REMOVAL. $85,000 -- $100,000 FOR THAT APPEAR ASPHALT FOR 85,000. THEY ARE REDOING ANY THE LIGHTING UNDER THE CANOPY AND THE ACTUAL K-MART HAD THE OLD CANOPY PULLED OFF AND GETTING READY TO BE ALL REDONE BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR FIRST TWO NEW TENANTS.

HARBOR FREIGHT AND AUTO ZONE ARE GOING INTO THAT SPACE.

WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR W A-W A AND THEY ARE SET AND READY AND LOOKS LIKE MAY WILL BE THE KICKOFF FOR THAT.

AND WE ARE EXCITED TO SEE THEY ARE ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD.

THEY HAVE SORT OF PUT THINGS ON HOLD AT FIRST AND PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC AND WE WEREN'T SURE HOW THINGS WILL PLAY OUT.

THEY ARE BACK AND READY TO GO. EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WHEN IT COMES TO T THAT.

CLOSED QUITE A FEW ENTRANCES FROM VIRGINIA TO HELP MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF POINTS OF ACCESS AND BETTER HELP PUSH THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED A DEDICATION AGAIN WITHOUT ANY PROJECT IN PLACE AND A DEDICATION OF THE CITY FOR THE RIGHT-TURN LANE ON TO VIRGINIA ABOUT 150-FOOT DEDICATION WE PROVIDED ALONG WITH A BUS SHELTER.

A NEW BUS SHELTER BY THE PNC BANK.

THOSE WERE ALL PUT INTO PLACE. SO A LOT OF THINGS.

WE HAVE NEW SIGNAGE THAT IS GOING UP AS OF THIS FRIDAY.

SO YOU WILL SEE -- THERE WILL BE -- ACTUALLY SORT OF KEEPING PART OF THE OUTLINE OF THE OLD SIGN AND BUILDING A BEAUTIFUL PIECE UP AROUND IT SOUTH OF THE BURGER KING.

PUTTING IN NEW LANDSCAPING AND A LOT OF THINGS IN THE MIX.

THIS REQUEST THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE IS YOU ACTUALLY FOR ONE OF THE BAYS. THERE ARE 24 BAYS.

I SHOULD SAY TENANTS INSIDE THE BUILDING.

A 2,000 SQUARE FEET. PRETTY SMALL WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 117,000 SQUARE FEET; HOWEVER, IT IS A PART OF THEIR PROCESS TO BRING THINGS TOGETHER. WE RECENTLY HAD THE INTRODUCE OF THE P. A. L., THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE IS IN THERE AS WELL AND SET UP AS A NO COST. THEY ARE NOT PAYING ANY RENT WHATSOEVER. SO THE P. A. L. HAS AN ARRANGEMENT WITH GATEWAY TO BE IN THAT SPACE.

FOR THIS THE APPLICATION IS PRETTY CLEAR, PRETTY SIMPLE, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT.

GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: QUESTIONS?

NOT SEEING ANY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: EITHER DID YOU A GREAT JOB OR MY BOARD

IS FALLING ASLEEP ON ME. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL RETURN BACK TO THE BO BOARD. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION FROM MISS BAKER AND A

SECOND FROM MR. BRODERICK. >>MARCIA BAKER: YES.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JOHNSON SCOTT: YES.

>>BOB BURDGE: YES, MA'AM. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES,

MA'AM. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: NEXT

[f. Conditional Use - ACOR Recycling - 1121 Digiorgio Road]

ITEM IS ITEM F ON OUR AGENDA, CONDITIONAL USE ACOR RECYCLING AT 12 1121 DIGIORGIO ROAD. AND MR. GILMORE IS PRESENTING.

[01:15:02]

I THINK -- WE ONLY HAVE ONE PLANNER THAT IS NOT PRESENTING

HERE TODAY. >> MARIA.

>> SHE IS STRICTLY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I HAVEN'T SEEN HER IN QUITE A

WHILE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. A CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR ACOR RECYCLING CENTER LOCATED IN 1121 DIGIORGIO ROAD. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ENTERPRISE ROAD AND DIGIORGIO ROAD. AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 13.84 ACRES. SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF INDUSTIAL WITH A ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE SITE PLAN CONSISTENCY OF A 42,000-SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY.

THE APPLICANT'S HOURS OF OPERATION 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M.

MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. WILL EMPLOY UP TO 25 EMPLOYEES AT FULL CAPACITY WITH LIVABLE ABOVE AVERAGE WAGES.

AGAIN, A CONSIDERATION FOR THE ACOR RECYCLING THAT STANDS FOR AMERICAN COMPLETE ORGANICS RECYCLING.

THE PROPOSED RECYCLING CENTER IS SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO PREPACKAGED CONSUMER FOOD AND BEVERAGE PACKAGING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH FOUR CONDITIONS.

THE FOUR CONDITIONS ARE, NUMBER ONE, A REQUIRED BOND MUST BE RECEIVED PRIOR TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

NUMBER TWO, ALL TRAFFIC MUST UTILIZE DIGIORGIO ROAD AND OREO NDER. ALL UNDER A COVERED STRUCTURE.

AND PRIOR TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THE UNPERMITTED STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED AND I WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE, NUMBER 4. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE? >> YES, I HAVE TWO.

EVERYTHING IS PROCESSED INSIDE OF THE PLANT?

>> CORRECT. >> NO PARTICULATES GOING OUT

INTO THE ATMOSPHERE? >> NO.

>> WHAT IS THE NOISE LEVEL? >>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: IF I MAY, STAFF -- WE ACTUALLY TOOK A TOUR THIS PAST THURSDAY.

JACK ANDREWS WHO IS OUR CITY ENGINEER AND MYSELF AND BRANDON CREAGAN AND THE APPLICANT WHO IS BEHIND ME GAVE US A TOUR AND EXPLAINED THE OPERATION. WHEN HE GETS UP I AM SURE WE WILL. EVERYTHING IS INDOORS.

IF ANYTHING IS STORED OUTSIDE AS WE DID NOTE.

AND WE NOTICED THEY ARE IN ALL BOXED CONTAINERS.

MAYBE OLD SODA CONTAINERS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO BE SOLD.

SOME DEFECT ON IT. AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING REYCLED. THERE IS NO ODOR OR NOISE THAT IS BEING PRODUCED. AND THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE SAT VERY FAR BACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS TO THE

WEST. >> IT WAS PREVIOUSLY A LUMBERYARD AND A TENT RENTAL COMPANY.

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: THEY HAVE CLEANED IT UP MAGNI MAGNIFICENTLY AND IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND THEY NEED A LANDSCAPE PLAN AND WILL BE THE BEST LOOKING SITE ON THE ROAD ON DIGIORGIO. .

>> MR. CHAIR, THAT WAS THE EMPHASIS OF MY QUESTION.

COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE ZONING PLAN.

I THINK IT IS THE ONE THAT IS PRIOR TO THAT.

YES, THERE. >> OH, THE ZONING?

>> NOW THE -- THE PROPERTY LOCATED TO THE WEST.

THAT IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD,

CORRECT? >> YES, MAGNOLIA SQUARE.

>> AND -- YOU RECALL, WE HAVE BEEN DOWN A SIMILAR ROAD BEFORE WITH REHABILITATION SITES FOR CONCRETE AND SUCH.

WHEREAS THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT ADJACENT TO IT.

THERE WAS NO TRANSITION FROM MEDIUM INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL TO HEAVY RESIDENTIAL. IT WENT FROM BUSTING CONCRETE TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THAT IS MY CONCERN HERE.

SO NOW CAN YOU JUST TOUCH ON THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THESE PROCESSES ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUILDING?

>> CORRECT. >> NO FUMES OR VENTING?

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: THAT IS WHY WE WENT OUT.

WE ALL SHARE THE CONCERN. BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ZONING MAP, UNFORTUNATELY -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAPPENED WITH ANNEXATIONS OR HOWEVER IT DID HAPPEN, TYPICALLY YOU HAVE A TRANSITION. YOU KNOW YOU GO FROM THE MOST INTENSE TO THE LEAST INTENSE. WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, W DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL AND

[01:20:05]

SOMETIMES HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND IT IS VERY HARD TO MANAGE THE NUISANCE THAT'S COME FROM THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPERATION, WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED.

IT IS A VERY WELL ORGANIZED OPERATION.

AND THE STRUCTURE IS WHERE THE OPERATION WILL BE HAPPENING INSIDE. SAT FURTHER BACK ON THAT SITE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL. SO ON THE EAST SIDE, ALL OF THAT IS INDUSTRIAL USES. THE LOCATION JUST TO THE NORTH.

AS PLANNING STAFF, WE WERE VERY SATISFIED HOW IT ALL FUNCTIONS AND IN PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

>> HOW ABOUT PERIMETER BUFF ERING AND THINGS.

I KNOW THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION OBVIOUSLY, BUT YOU DON'T WANT THIS STUFF LANDING IN EVERYBODY'S DRIVEWAY TO THE WEST. WHAT IS THERE NOW.

WHAT IS THE PLANNED LANDSCAPING AND FENCING OR CONCRETE WALL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THERE SPECIFICALLY AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY OF THE LANDSCAPE PLANS OR OTHER MODIFICATION, CORRECT. PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE HANDLING THAT. THAT WON'T BE COMING BACK US

TO. >> NO.

THE APPLICATION IS ADDING 29 TREE TO THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING. IT IS CURRENTLY -- I WOULD SAY A RATHER -- LANDSCAPE DENSE BUFFER TO IT THE WEST THAT SEPARATES IT THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

>> OKAY. I GUESS THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WE WILL ASK HIM OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS THE SPECIFIC PROCESSES. THANK YOU.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

NOT SEEING ANY. OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. IF YOU WILL PLEASE STEP FOR FORWARD. IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME,

ADDRESS AND SIGN IN PLEASE. >> FRED MASARI, MANAGER FOR ACOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR APPLICATION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE ZONING. SO AS WAS MENTIONED, THE FACILITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN YOU THINK OF A RECYCLING FACILITY. WHAT THIS IS A PRECONSUMER FOOD AND BEVERAGE FACILITY BASI BASICALLY.

WHAT WE DO IS TAKE IN MATERIALS THAT ARE BRAND-NEW, ON THE PALETTES, IN THE SHRINK WRAP, IN THE PACKAGES.THIS IS RECEIVED IN BY TRUCK TO THE LOADING DOCK, BROUGHT TO THE WAREHOUSE, AND STAGED -- AND STAGED FOR PRODUCTION, WHICH IN OUR CASE IS KIND OF DEPRODUCTION.

WHAT WE DO IS INVENTORY AND SECOND DEGREE GRE GATD MATERIALS BY PROJECT TYPE AND WE WILL HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, PEPSI CANS, BOXES OF MACARONI AND CHEESE.

WHATEVER IS OFF S PIC FOR WHATEVER REASON, MISBRANDED, MISLABELLED, EXPIRED. ALL BRAND-NEW MATERIAL.

CLEAN, RECYCLABLE MATERIAL. WE TAKE THE INVENTORY IN, ONE IT THROUGH A COUPLE OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT DEPACK CADGE.

THEY SEPARATE THE -- DEPACKAGE. FROM THE MATERIAL TO THE PACKAGING AND DRIED FOOD, IT IS MOVED TO A TRUCK AND MOVED FOR THE INGREDIENT OF CATTLE AND HOG FEED.

TURNING SKITTLES, FOR EXAMPLE, INTO BEEF AND PORK.

IF IT IS LIQUID, THAT IS SET TO ONE OF THE LOCAL COMPOST FACILITIES. SOME OF THIS WILL GO TO WASTE ENERGY WITH AN AEROBIC DIGESTION AND ANOTHER PORTION COULD BE TRANSPORTED TO THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES WHERE THEY ACTUALLY WANT THE MATERIAL FOR THEIR WASTEWATER PLANTS AS A FOOD SEWERS. -- FOOD SOURCE.

RECYCLABLES ARE -- BALED AND SHIPPED OUT ON A ALMOST DAILY BASIS AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY

HAVE. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I NOTICED IMMEDIATELY WHEN I -- WHEN THIS CAME INTO US LATER.

IT CAME IN LATE AFTER THE ORIGINAL AGENDA WAS SET, AND WE ADDED IT TO THE NEW AGENDA, IF YOU RECALL.

WHEN I GOT THAT, I LOOKED AT IT AND I SAID, BOY, THIS ACOR IS AWFULLY FAMILIAR TO ME. I SAW IT WAS A STUART ADDRESS.

[01:25:03]

I THOUGHT MAYBE THEY HAVE A STUART OPERATION.

AND YOU DON'T. >> NO.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: AND THEN I WAS AT A MEETING YESTERDAY AND I BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN.

AND THEN I WENT HOME LAST NIGHT AND I STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT. AND ACOR, ODDLY ENOUGH, MAYBE YOU KNOW THIS, STANDS FOR AUSTRALIAN CYCLE OF RECYCLING.

>> I DID NOT KNOW THAT. >> AN AUSTRALIA IAN ORGANIZATION LIKE WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COUNTRY.

AND I IN A PAST LIFE IN BUSINESS, I JOINED ACOR IN AUSTRALIA BECAUSE I WAS DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH RECYCLING COMPANIES IN AUSTRALIA ON RECYCLING EQUIPMENT.

SO IT JUST KIND OF JUMPED AT ME ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN I SAW ACOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL POSE YOU ANY PROBLEMS MOVING FORWARD WITH YOUR NAME OR NOT.

AN INTERESTING PIECE OF INFORMATION.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK IT UP. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT FROM THE BOARD, YOU HAVE ONE AT LEAST.

>> I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS US THAT EMPLOY TO CONDUCT YOUR OPERATIONS. AND YOU HEARD MY CONCERN RELATIVE TO RESIDENTIAL BACK UP IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO YOUR SITE. IS THERE ANY TYPE OF GENERATION OF ODORS OR -- ANYTHING IN THIS NAY CHAIR THAT IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED DISRUPTION IN ANY CAPACITY.

AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS RELATIVE TO TRUCK TRAFFIC. WHAT TYPES OF VEHICLES, HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE YOU TAKING IN A DAY AND HOW -- I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE PRESENTATION RELATIVE TO ACCESS. HOW WILL THEY ACCESS THE SITE AND AVOIDING THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS?

>> THE -- REGARDING THE ODOR AND NOISE, THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS OPERATING -- AGAIN, THIS IS INSIDE THE BUILDING.

WHEN THIS IS IN OPERATION, YOU COULD STAND NEXT TO IT AND CARRY ON A CONVERSATION IN A NORMAL TONE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY LOT -- DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF NOISE AND WON'T BE HEARD ACROSS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE NO EMISSIONS. WE DON'T TEAR UP PLASTIC.

NO GARAGE FLOATING AROUND. IN FACT THE SITE HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY CLEANED UP AND WE PLAN TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

REGARDING THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH TRACTOR-TRAILERS AND AT FULL CAPACITY THAT WE HOPE TO REACH MAYBE SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, WE SHOULD HAVE 20 TRUCKLOADS A D DAY, WHICH I THINK IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN WHAT GOES BACK AND FORTH TO NAT NATALIE'S JUICE, FOR EXAMPLE.

BUT AT THO NO TIME DO TRUCKS PASS THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO OUR WEST SIDE, I GUESS THAT IS.

THEY JUST STAY RIGHT THERE ON DIGIORGIO, OLEANDER AND OUT.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BY OUR BOARD? NOT SEEING ANY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE.

COME BACK TO THE BOARD. FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MR. CHAIR, MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS.

>> SECOND. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL WITH THREE CONDITIONS.

YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY STRIKING NUMBER FOUR BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN

COMPLETED. >> YES.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: CALL THE ROLL.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JOHNSON SCOTT: YES.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM G, CONDITIONAL USE PALM BEACH CAREER COLLEGE NURSING SCHOOL.

[g. Conditional Use - Palm Beach Career College (Nursing School) - 1901 S. 25th Street, Unit 103]

1901 SOUTH 25TH STREET. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR THE OPERATION OF A COLLEGE -- PALM BEACH CAREER COLLEGE WITH NURSING SCHOOL 1901 SOUTH 25TH STREET UNIT 103. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF RHODE ISLAND AVENUE AND 25TH STREET.

SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF OP, OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A ZONING OF C 1 OFFICE COMMERCIAL ZONE. THE SITE PLAN -- THE LOCATION ON THE SITE OPERATION WILL OCCUR IS 3119 SQUARE FEET. THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M.

SATURDAY. WILL EMPLOY TWO TO FOUR-INCH

[01:30:01]

STRUCTURES AND THREE STAFF MEMBERS WILL SPLIT SHIFTS AND 20 STUDENTS ON AVERAGE. OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE CONTINUAL USE OF THE COLLEGE FOR NURSING.

THE PROPOSED FACILITY WILL OFFER THE FOLLOWING DEGREES AND CERTIFICATION BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN NURSING, ASSOCIATE DEGREE IN NURSING, LICENSE PRACTICAL NURSES, HOME ASSISTANT AND MIAMI HEALTH AIDE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH NO CONDITIONS.

>> MR. GILMORE. INTRODUCED TO 1905.

ON AGENDA 1901. >> A TYPO.

CLERICAL ERROR. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: IS THIS NURSING SCHOOL AT ALL AFFILIATED WITH INDIAN RIVER?

>> NO, NO. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: OKAY.

ANY FURTHER -- ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

. >> JUST ONE.

IS THE CONDITIONAL USE BEING TRIGGERED FACT THAT IT IS A

SCHOOL AND C-1? >> CORRECT, ALL SCHOOLS ARE A CONDITIONAL USE IN OUR USE TABLE.

>> PRIOR TO THAT PUTTING AN OFFICE BUILDING -- YOU THIS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF US.

UNDER THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT THRESHOLD.

>> THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO -- THEY WOULD DO A MINOR SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.

>> DOESN'T INCORPORATE INTO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN.

>> THE USE THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A CONTINUE CAL USE ANY

SCHOOL FROM PRE-K TO COLLEGE. >> MY POINT IN THE DENSITY OF USE AND NUMBER BODIES, THERE IS NOT REALLY DIFFERENTIAL.

>> CORRECT. >> TRIGGERING THE CONDITIONAL

USE. >> CORRECT.

>> MAKES IT EASY. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY QUARTER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NOT SEEING ANY.

I WILL OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS PRO PROJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

I HAD TWO PEOPLE LOOKING TO EACH OTHER OVER HERE.

I DON'T KNOW PURPOSE CHALLENGING OR WHAT.

>> OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON. DR. JAMES SALVADOR.

I AM THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF PALM BEACH CAREER -- PALM BEACH CAREER COLLEGE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY. I WAS ACTUALLY -- I AM FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY. THAT IS WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM, PALM BEACH CAREER. SO I WAS LOOKING TO OPEN UP A NURSING SCHOOL BECAUSE WE ARE OPERATING IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.

SO I WAS LOOKING TO DO IT EITHER IN PORT SAINT LUCIE OR FORT PIERCE. I DECIDED TO DO IT IN FORT PIERCE BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS I DIDN'T GOT INTO THE BUSINESS -- I AM BY TREND A MEDICAL DOCTOR, BUT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH EDUCATIONAL BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME OVER 25 YEARS. I TAUGHT AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT COLLEGES, PALM BEACH STATE, FAU, BOSTON UNIVERSITY AND MICHIGAN STATE, TO NAME A FEW. SO I WANTED -- ONE OF THE GOALS WAS JUST -- I WANT TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO GO TO MAJOR COLLEGES OR WOULDN'T GET INTO MAJOR CHALLENGES. THAT IS THE REASON I CHOSE FORT PIERCE. I FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY FOR ME NOT ONLY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I LOVE MY COMMUNITY. I LOVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE.

I LOVE TO HELP PEOPLE OUT, ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT'S WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET HELP ANYWHERE ELSE.

THAT IS THE REASON WHY I AM DOING IT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR

ANYTHING FOR ME. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY

QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? >> A QUESTION.

HOW ARE THESE SCHOOLS ACCREDITED?

>> BECAUSE WE JUST STARTING. SO THEY DON'T ACCREDIT THE SCHOOL WHEN YOU ARE JUST STARTING A SCHOOL.

THEY GIVE YOU A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.

SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT -- WE ARE LOOKING INTO DIFFERENT ACCREDITING VALUE BUT HAVEN'T DECIDED WHICH ONE WE

WOULD BE USING. >> WILL YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRICULUM THAT YOU WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOUR

STUDENTS? >> THE CURRICULUM WILL BE -- FOLLOW STRICTLY THE CURRICULUM. I DIDN'T BRING IT WITH ME.

I WAS JUST -- THAT SOMEBODY NEEDED TO BE AT THE MEETING.

I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN BRING IT WITH ME. I HAVE THE CURRICULUM BUT FOLLOWING THE CURRICULUM WHICH IS THE FLORIDA BOARD OF NURSING. FOLLOWING THAT CURRICULUM.

I DIDN'T BRING THE SPECIFIC CURRICULUM WITH ME.

>> JUST LET ME CLARIFY. YOUR CURRICULUM WILL NOT DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PLANNING BOARD PASSES.

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I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE CURRICULUM.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

>> I JUST WANT TO MENTION TOO, ONE OF MY GOALS -- I KNOW WE ARE A SMALL SCHOOL. I REMEMBER WHEN I -- I WAS ACTUALLY BORN AND RAISED IN HAITI.

BUT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN -- IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. AND I HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. WHEN I STARTED, I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL IN DELRAY BEACH. BUT WHEN I STARTED, I STARTED AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE WHICH WAS PALM BEACH STATE COLLEGE.

USED TO BE -- USED TO BE A DIFFERENT NAME AND NOW PALM BEACH COLLEGE. I WORKED MY WAY OFF AND FAU.

TWO BACHELORS. ONE IN CHEMISTRY AND BIOLOGY.

I WENT TO BOSTON UNIVERSITY. TWO DOCTORATE.

PH.D. AND MEDICAL DOCTOR. I LOVE EDUCATION.

SO -- AND I FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAME FROM THE BOTTOM AND WORKED MY WAY UP. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL EMBODY IN MY STUDENTS TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. NOTHING CAN STOP YOU.

AND THAT IS MY GOAL. MY GOAL IS JUST TO BE ONE OF THE BEST. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHATEVER SCHOOL YOU WENT TO AND THAT THE CURRICULUM WILL FOLLOW AND THAT IS WHAT I PLANNED TO BRING HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING YOUR SCHOOL TO FORT PIERCE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I AM

SORRY. >> ARE YOU ESTABLISH IN PALM BEACH COUNTY OR A BRAND-NEW SCHOOL IN FORT PIERCE.

>> IN PALM BEACH COUNTY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS STRICTLY DOING HHA, CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANT.

SO NOW WE JUST HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR ALL THESE -- ALL THE PROGRAMS, THE BACHELOR, THE BOARD OF NURSING.

SO I WANTED TO EXTEND SO THE BACHELOR, LPN AND ASSOCIATE WILL BE BAD NEWS. BUT HOME HEALTH AID AND NURSING ASSISTANT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

>> MY QUESTION YOU SAID YOU ARE ESTABLISHED IN PALM BEACH.

DO YOU HAVE ACCREDITATION. >> FOR HOME HEALTH AND CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANT. NOT FOR LPN OR BSN.

>> THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: SEE HOW EASY IT IS FOR ME TO MISS YOU OUT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING YOUR SCHOOL HERE TO FORT PIERCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT OUR COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR NEEDS IS EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR UNDERPRIVILEGED COMMUNITIES.

AN I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF YOUR GOALS TO TRY TO REACH OUT. AND I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS? NOT SEEING ANYONE. COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. NOT SEEING ANY.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IS. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

. >> SECOND.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: A MOTION WERE MR. BURDGE.

A SECOND FROM MIS-C LEMONS. >>HAROLD ARBURY: YES.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JOHNSON SCOTT: YES.

>>NICHELLE CLEMONS: YES. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE

>>> RECONVENING OUR PLANNING BOARD MEETING.

TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS TIME TO DO ALL THE THINGS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. I JUST HAD POINTED OUT TO ME THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM L UP FORWARD TO ITEM H.

[l. Site Plan - Crossroads Industrial - Parcel ID 2325-122-0002-000-3 ]

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IS THE SITE PLAN FOR CROSSROADS INDUSTRIAL PARCEL ID 25-1 25-122-000-2-003.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, A DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE CROSSROAD INDUSTRIAL LOCATED AT

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APPROXIMATELY WEST OF INTERSTATE 95, EAST OF THE TURNPIKE AND SOUTH OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD.

THE FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PROPERTY IS GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH A ZONING OF CP-1 COMMERCIAL PARKWAY.

THE PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 127 ACRES.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THREE CONDITIONS AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 12-136 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DOES NOT EFFECT THE ADVERSELY PUBLIC SEATTLE, HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE. THE SITE PLAN REQUEST IS DI DIVIDED INTO TWO DIFFERENT SITE PLANS.

SOMEONE A ONE BUILDING AND ONE USE THEIR WILL BE 1,133,000 SQUARE FEET IN SPACE. 434 CAR PARKING SPACES, 314 SPACES FOR TRAILER PARKING, THREE LAKES WITH WATER FEATURES IN EACH, UPLIGHTING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND PRESERVATION OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 47.75 ACRES. THE BUILDING OPTION NUMBER TWO IS TWO BUILDINGS AND TWO USER THAT'S WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 550,550 SQUARE FEET. 314 SPACES FOR TRAILER PARKING.

AGAIN THREE LAKES WITH WATER FEATURES IN EACH.

UP LIGHTING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND AGAIN PRESERVATION OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL CONSISTENT OF 587 TREES.

96 PALM TREES AND 3295 SHRUBS. ALSO ALL OF THE VEGETATION IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WILL BE PRESERVED AND THE APPLICANT WILL NOT NEED TO PROVIDE ANY SORT OF LANDSCAPING OR TREE MITIGATION TO THE SITE. THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE THREE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: 1, THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL UPLIGHTING ALONG TE FACADES FACING I-95 AND FLORIDA TURNPIKE. THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE AREAS NOT UTILIZED FOR BAY DOOR AND LOADING. WILL HAVE DETAILS OF THE LIGHTING PROGRAM AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW.

2, AFTER A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS OF FULL OPERATION OF THE SITE, THE APPLICANT SHOULD UPDATE THE TRIP GENERATION, TRIP DISTRIBUTION, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO REMEMBER PHI THE ASSUMPTIONS PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF THE APPROVAL.

IF DISCREPANCIES ARE EXPECTED, MITIGATION MEASURES AND SHOULD BE SMITHED TO SAINT LUCIE COUNTY FOR REVIEW OF THE CONDITION PLACED ON THE PROJECT BY SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.

THREE, THE AIRBORNE MOUNTAIN BIKE SHALL BE ABLE TO CONDITION THEIR OPERATION PER THEIR EXISTING AGREEMENT SF W MD AND OR THE PROPERTY OWNER. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING BOARD ARE TO PROPOSE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW AS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THREE CONDITIONS. APPROVE WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

SIR. WELL, NO SEATING HERE IN THE FRONT. I WILL LET YOU POSE HERE FOR A MOMENT IF YOU WOULD. BUT I HAVE NOT CALLED THE PUBLIC MEETING. SO I AM GOING TO WORK WITH OUR BOARD AND OUR PLANNER, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES.

>> QUICK QUESTION. AND THIS IS SIMPLY A QUESTION.

WHY THE UP LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING OTHER THAN TO MAKE ITS PRESENCE KNOWN ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT IT IS ADJACENT

TO. >> BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE SEEN FROM OUR TWO MAJOR CORRIDORS OF I-95 AND THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND KIND OF AN UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT YOU SEE ALONG 95 AND PORT SAINT LUCIE.

I NOTICED A FEW BUILDINGS AND CAUGHT MY EYE AND I THOUGHT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR FORT PIERCE AS WELL.

>> DO WE KNOW HOT TENANTS ARE GOING TO BE?

>> RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANT AND IF THEY ARE AUTHORIZED TO TELL THE TENANT, THEY WILL.

>> LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, ANY PROBLEM FOR THE TENANT'S NAME TO BE PLACED ON THE BUILDING ALSO SO THAT CONTINUATION OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

NOT -- THE BEAUTIFICATION -- THE BEAUTY OF THE THING AND THE PRESENCE THAT THIS BUILDING AND THESE ARE THE TENANTS THAT ARE IN THIS BUILDING. I MEAN, TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THIS -- THIS COMPANY IS IN FORT PIERCE.

OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IS GOING ON.

>> THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR NAME ON THE BUILDING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY'S SIGN CODE.

>> THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A COUPLE.

FIRST OFF, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE ABILITY OF THIS COMPANY TO

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LOCATE IN FORT PIERCE AND DEVELOP 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF SPACE IS A PHENOMENAL ACHIEVEMENT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT I CAN PROBABLY COUNT ON A FEW FINGERS ONE MILLION PLUS SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS IN THE CITY, IF ANY. OTHER THAN -- OTHER THAN WALMART. HAVING SAID THAT, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION PERTAINING TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND IT SUGGESTS THAT A POTENTIAL MITIGATION STRATEGY IN THE EVENT THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT IS PROPOSED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WERE -- WERE TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND JUST A QUESTION. HOW WOULD THAT BE MITIGATED IF IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WAS ACCEPTED?

>> SO, AS PART OF THE PROJECT'S DEVELOPMENT, SO -- WE REVIEW TRAFFIC PRELIMINARILY WHEN IT GOES TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND ALSO OTHER ENTITY THAT'S NEED TO PROVIDE APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE COUNTY WILL BE ONE OF OUR REVIEWING AGENCIES FOR THE ROADWAY.

THEY BOO THEN PUT ON THE APPLICANT TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, MAYBE A TRAFFIC LIGHT IS NEEDED IN THE CORNER OF EDWARDS AND JENKINS ROAD.

AND WIDENING THAT NEEDS TO GO ON THAT ROAD.

SO THE COUNTY WOULD THEN PUT CONDITIONS ON APPROVAL OF SAID BUILDING PERMIT AT THE TIME OF THEIR REVIEW AS WELL.

>> SO THAT HAPPENS IN THE PROCESS AS WE ARE DEALING WITH IT TODAY. BECAUSE I NOTICE IN THE REPORT, THAT THE -- THE DEVELOPER HAD ISSUED THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO GET OUT OF GROUND ON IN THING IN 06 DAYS AND HAVE THE FACILITY BUILT OUT AND READY FOR TENANTS THAT WILL GENERATE EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY AND BRING A LOT OF VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO THE CITY. ARE YOU SAYING THIS COULD POTENTIALLY DELAY THIS PROCESS OR CAN BE A FUTURE-LOOKING

EVENT. >> A FUTURE LOOKING EVENT.

>> AFTER THEY LEAVE HERE -- JUST TO GET THAT CLEAR.

THE NEXT HURDLE -- NOT HURDLE, BUT THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE CITY CMMISSION AND THEN THEY ARE

DONE? >>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: AND

BUILDING PERMIT. >> CITY COMMISSION AND THEN

BUILDING PERMIT. >> SPEED IS OF THE ESSENCE IF THEY ARE LOOKING TO BE DIGGING IN 60 DAYS.

IF THAT IS THE LIMIT OF THE PROCESS, I WOULD SUGGEST THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY

POSITIVE. >> THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH US AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY TO SATISFY ALL COMMENTS RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND SITE PLAN ISSUE AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT ALL PARTIES WILL BE SATISFIED AT THE END.

>>JENNIFER HOFMEISTER: IF I MAY, AS BRANDON WAS SAYING.

YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, ANY TIME WE HAVE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT REVIEWS THIS. IN THIS CASE SAINT LUCIE COUNTY HAVE ONE OF THEIR CONTINUING SERVICE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO REVIEW IT. ALSO HERE TODAY IN ADDITION TO THE PLANNER -- SITE PLANNER FOR THE PROJECT.

THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT SIMMONS AND WHITE IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ARE REGARD TO TRAFFIC, THEY ARE

HERE TO ANSWER. >> THE POINT IS THIS IS SUCH A -- AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THESE LARGE DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES ARE NOT REALLY PREDOMINANT THIS MARKET.

AN YOU HAVE ONE, COULD YOU BE MORE AND THIS COULD BE THE START OF SOMETHING VERY POSITIVE FOR THE CITY THIS PROJECT IS PHENOMENAL AND I DON'T WANT IT TO GET STUCK IN THE WEED SOMEWHERE. NOT THAT HAPPENS FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

WE WANT TO SEE IT STREAMLINE AND GO FORWARD.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THAT LEATHER CASE STILL OKAY.

>> I GOT OUT OF THAT PRETTY GOOD.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: YES YOU DID.

SMOOTH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY OUR

BOARD, COMMENTS? >> HOW MANY JOBS ARE POTE

POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE. >> OFF HAND I DO NOT KNOW AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? THIS -- THIS.

THIS PICTURE GENERATED A LOT OF PALMS. ON THE SOUTH END. AND 95.

AND THAT IS AN EXISTING POND. AND I AM GUESSING THAT THE SOUTH FLORIDA MANAGEMENT PERMITS AND WHAT HAVE YOU FOR THE OTHER MITIGATION PONDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED AROUND THE BUILDING HAVE ALREADY BEEN HANDLED.

WHAT ADDITIONAL AND BUILDING -- AND TAKE PLACE IN THE GREEN

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AREA OF THE BUILDING AND IS IT HALF OF THIS BUILDING BEING BUILT AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE BUILDING.

>> DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT OF THIS SIZE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE APPLICANT KNOWS EXACTLY HOT END USER IS GOING TO BE YET. THEY HAVE CREATED ONE BUILDING SCHEME FOR ONE USER AND A TWO BUILDING LAYOUT SCHEME IF ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR ONE AND TWO USERS WANT TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THE SCHEME WOULD BE TO BUILD THE SECOND BUILDING SOUTH OF THIS BUILDING

>> THE ONE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE WOULD BECOME TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS. BASICALLY SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE

AND ADDITIONAL PARKING ADDED. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THANK YOU. NOTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD, I WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD, JOSH NICHOLS WITH SCHMIDT. REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

WE ARE A PLANNING FIRM IN WEST PALM BEACH.

HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR SOME TIME AND GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE AND SEE THE CITY GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS.

WE APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US THIS AFTERNOON.

SO THIS IS JUST -- THIS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT HERE TO SEE SOME OF THE GRAPHICS AND RENDERING OF THE BUILDING.

AND BRANDON HAD PROBLEMS GOING THROUGH THE THIRD DEGREE CAL AND WHAT SILLIERMAN THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHY THEY ARE A GOOD PARTNER FOR THE CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THIS IS THE COMPANY'S PROFILE. AND THEY DOMINATED A LOT OF THE EAST COAST AND MOVING INTO THE MIDWEST WITH 19 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE INDUSTRIAL RETAIL AND 15 STATES AND ANOTHER FIVE MILLION SQUARE FEET IN DEVELOPMENT IN SEVEN OTHER STATES. ALSO DABBLE IN MULTIFAMILY AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 150 EMPLOYEES COUNTRYWIDE TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT MANAGEMENT. SO, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS KNOW WHY THIS SITE IS SO SPECIAL DUE TO THE ACCESS.

IT IS IN BETWEEN I-95 AND THE TURNPIKE.

IT IS REALLY SUCH RATED PERFECT FOR THIS TYPE OF USER.

TALKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS PROJECT WITH COMPATIBILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR IT FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS. THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE COMPLETED. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONCORD NORTH CAROLINA CONTINUE TO RIGHT OF THE SCREEN LOOKS SIMILAR -- VERY, VERY SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS AN AS-BUILT PROJECT.

A LOT OF GLAZING -- DE DECKED-FLOOR GLAZING AND ALMOST LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT AS A INDUSTRIAL SECTOR CLEAR CEI CEILING.

YOU CAN SEE THESE IN THE SOUTHEAST.

YOU CAN SEE TWO IN FLORIDA IN LAKE WORTH AND ALSO FOR JACKSONVILLE. THE DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE AND GONE THROUGH THAT AND FULL TURNKEY AND THEY DO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTIES AND THEY GET TENANTS IN AND LEASE THOSE SPACES. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF A COUPLE OF THESE COMPANIES, BUT THESE ARE WHO THEY BASICALLY DEVELOP THESE PROJECTS FOR. SO IN HOPES TO GET ONE OF THESE IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

AGAIN, BRANDON HAD TOUCHED ON THE DETAILS OF THIS, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A COLOR RENDERING OF WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE.

THOSE LAKES ADDED IN THERE. AS YOU COME INTO THE FACILITY, THERE IS A NICE ROUNDABOUT THAT WE WILL HAVE LANDSCAPEING IN THE ROUNDABOUT WITH A NICE ENTRY FEATURE.

WE DIDN'T WANT YOU COMING IN LOOKING AT THE LOADING AREA AND A BIG BUILDING AND YOU NEED HAVE THE LOADING MANEUVERING AREA. A NICE ROUNDABOUT AND PLENTY OF ACCESS FOR TRUCKS AND PASSENGER VEHICLES.

THERE IS AN OUTER RING FOR THE PASSENGER VEHICLE SO YOU CAN SCOOT AROUND THE TRUCK IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES.

AGAIN, THAT IS REALLY GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHO THE ULTIMATE TENANT IS, BUT WE FORESEE ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO 200 EMPLOYEES DEPENDENT ON THE TENANT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THE ONE BUILDING PLAN. AND, AGAIN, BRANDON JUMPED IN QUICKLY WHAT THAT TWO-BUILDING SCENARIO, ONE MILLION SQUARE FEET IS A LOT TO TAKE DOWN, BUT THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE

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THAT HO ARE LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IN THE EVENT TWO THAT ARE BOTH VERY INTERESTED AND COULD USE THE HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET. WE CAN ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL THOSE BUILDINGS IN SIDE BY SIDE AND ADDING PARKING TO THE MIDDLE. SAME STRUCTURE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LOADING. BASICALLY THESE ARE CROSS DO DOCKS. YOU HAVE THE LOADING COMING IN ON -- SAY THE NORTH SIDE AND YOU HAVE THOSE PALE TIZED AND THE MACHINERY COMING TOGETHER IN THE OTHER SIDE.

A CROSS DOCK SET-UP. VERY POPULAR IN THE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR. LET ME GO HERE.

YOU SAW THIS ON BRANDON'S SLIDES.

BUT A VIEW FROM NORTH AND SOUTH LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY.

47 ACRE TAT'S WILL BE KEPT IN PRESERVATION.

AND WE SPOKEN TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

A DEED ON THE PROPERTY FOR THAT AREA AND THAT WILL BE PRESERVED IN PLACE AND WE SPOKE WITH A AIRBORNE MOUNTAIN BIKE CLUB AND THEY ARE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT SILVERMAN GROUP IS A PROPONENT OF DOING THEIR THING OUT THERE AND DOESN'T WANT TO STOP THEM.

WE TALKED TO SOUTH FLORIDA AS WELL, AND THEY ARE A PROPONENT OF WHAT AIRBORNE IS DOING AND THEIR MAINTENANCE OF THE TRAILS AND THEY ARE NOT IMPACTING ANYTHING.

SOUNDS LIKE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO STAY AND DO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AND WE WILL KEEP THEM ON THE SITE WITH NO ISSUES. SO I DID WANT TO BRING FORWARD MR. TESH FROM THE SAINT LUCIE DC TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE REGION AND THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU, JOSH. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. EXCUSE ME.

I AM PETE TESH, PRESIDENT OF THE EDC.

AND GREAT TO BE BEFORE YOU ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT AND HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AS JOSH MENTIONED, WE JUST DID A ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE SILVERMAN GROUP FOR THIS 1.1 MILLION SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY.

JOINING WITH ME TODAY IS JILL MARASA, OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS EXPANSION, RETENTION AT THE EDC.

THE EDC IS A PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP AND OUR JOB IS TO HELP CREATE JOBS. OUR MISSION IS TO HELP DIVERSIFY SAINT LUCIE'S ECONOMY AND CREATE SUSTAINABLE JOBS.

AND YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION, MA'AM, ABOUT JOB CREATION IS REALLY CRITICAL TO THIS EFFORT. YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE EARNING PER WORKER IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY IS ABOUT $40,000 A YEAR AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL HELP FURTHER GROW AND DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY ARE SUSTAINABLE JOBS.

AND WE THINK THE SILVERMAN GROUP PROJECT.

AND AS JOSH MENTIONED, WE DID DO PRELIMINARY ECONOMIC ANALYSIS INCLUDING THE MODEL THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD INPUT, OUTPUT ECON METRIC MODELING SYSTEM AND IT IS GETTING LATE IN THE AFTERNOON AND I AM SURE WE DON'T INTO A LOT OF DETAILS.

THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOTH DIRECT, INDIRECT AND I DUESED JOBS BOTH ON THE ONE-TIME CONSTRUCTION IMPACT WHICH WOULD CREATE A 153 CONSTRUCTION JOBS WITH THE TOTAL OUTPUT OF 89.9 MILLION.

SO DIRECT JOBS. THE DIRECT IMPACT RELATES TO THE ACTUAL PROJECT, JOBS AND CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

INDIRECT IS THE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS FUNCTION WHERE THE ACTUAL TRANSACTION OCCURS WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES THAT ARE DELIVERED TO THE COMPANY IN THEIR -- AND THEN THE TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND DISCRETIONARY INCOME THAT RESULTS FROM THE TOTAL OUTPUT OF THE PROJECT. SO JUST USING THE -- SOME AVERAGE FLOOR AREA RATIOS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE USE 755 JOBS FOR THE 1.1 MILLION.

AND THAT WILL CREATE INDIRECT JOBS OF OVER 1679, INDUCE OF 269 WITH A TOTAL OF OVER 2700 AND TOTAL OUTPUT OF 450 MILLION. SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO BACK UP EVEN FURTHER IS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT ALONG WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY IS WE HAVE A DISTINCT LACK OF INDUSTRIAL

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FACILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS PROHIBITING US FROM ATTRACTING THE JOBS THAT OUR RESIDENTS SO DESPERATELY NEED.

WITH THIS AND WITH YOUR HELP, THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD.

AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND SPECIFICALLY JENNIFER AND BRANDON AND AS WELL AS THE STAFF WITH CITY HALL TO HELP US GET TO THIS POINT.

SO, JOSH, I HOPE THAT IS SUFFICIENT IN TERMS OF IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE ROLE THAT EDC PLAYS IN THIS.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, I WILL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM, SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

WERE YOU DONE, JOSH? >> YES, I AM.

I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MIGHT HAVE ONE OF THE EDC GENTLEMAN.

RECENTLY -- I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TODAY OR YESTERDAY, I SAW A LARGE DEVELOPMENT GOING DOWN NEAR THE MIDWAY ROAD AREA.

PORT SAINT LUCIE, SAINT LUCIE COUNTY IS OFFERING SOME SORT OF TAX CREDITS TO GO THROUGH. HAS THIS ORGANIZATION HAVE BEEN OFFERED INCENTIVES TO BUILD THIS BUILDING HERE?

>> NO, SIR, NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

>> ARE ANY OF THEM AVAILABLE TO THEM?

>> WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THE EVENT THAT SILVERMAN GROUP AND OR THE EDC WERE TO WORK WITH A TARGET INDUSTRY OR A COMPANY THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THOSE TYPE OF INCENTIVES, TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE MANUFACTURING, LOWE LOGISTICS, WAREHOUSING, INDUSTRY SECTORS LIKE THAT.

THEN WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW WITH A PROJECT THEIR REFERRING TO, THAT WAS JOHN STEELE, ISRAELI CHASSIS MANUFACTURER.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS.

IMPACT FEE MITIGATION, AND THEN A JOB GROWTH INVESTMENT GRANT FROM THE COUNTY.3 SO, AGAIN, IF THE COMPANY QUALIFIES AS TARGET INDUSTRY, WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION,

SIR. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY ONE I

HAVE ON THAT ONE. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I HAVE ONE OF MR. NICHOLS. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: OKAY,

GO AHEAD. >> YOU MENTIONED THERE IS -- THERE IS A NICE PICTURE OF WHERE THE LAND IS ON THIS.

GAPHICS ARE GREAT. THE 47 ACRES ARE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE BUILDING, IS THAT TRUE?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO NONE OF THAT LAND IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE BUILDING COULD BE USED FOR

ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE IS A DEED TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT

DISTRICT. >> YOU ARE BUILDING OUT -- WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSE SOMETHING THE BUILD-OUT OF THE TOTAL PRO

PROPERTY? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I WAS WONDERING HOW WOULD WE GET.

ADDITIONAL BUILDS HOW TO GET TRAFFIC AROUND THERE.

>> THIS WOULD BUILD OUT THE ENTIRE SITE BASED ON THE DRAINAGE THAT WE NEED AND TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION PAR

PARTNERS. >> THANK YOU, LOOKS GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I AM ROD WALKER.

>> ROB WALLER WITH SUNRISE CITY CONSTRUCTION.

ADDRESS IS 130 SOUTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE HERE IN FORT PI PIERCE. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

PORT SAINT LUCIE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS THAT HAVE TWO ARCADES IN THE SAME VICINITY OR SAME AREA.

THE FIRST ONE. YOU HEAD SOUTH ON U.S. ONE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PEOPLE PEOPLE AREA VISTA.

PROBABLY A MILE BACK. THERE IS A PLAZA THAT HAS TWO IN THERE. THERE IS ONE.

YES, MA'AM. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT. THE OLD PAYLESS SHOE SOURCE.

AND WE ARE LUCKY A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTNING IS ALREADY THERE BECAUSE OF THE PYLESS SHOE STORE.

WE INDICATED THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND ANOTHER GOOD THING MINIMAL CONSTRUCTION. DOING A LITTLE ELECTRICAL WORK TO ACCOMMODATE THE MACHINES AND THAT IS PRETTY ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NEEDED. WE WILL PUT THE BICYCLE RACK DEFINITELY AND RESTRIPE FOR THE ADEQUATE PARKING AND A CROSSWALK FROM THE SIDEWALK ON U.S. 1 FOR THE BUILDING SO THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN GET THERE SAFELY.

THAT'S ABOUT IT. I WILL ANSWER ANY OF YOUR

QUESTIONS. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WHAT IS

YOUR AGE MARKET? >> THE AGE MARKET.

DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH IN PORT ST. LOUISI.

THE AGE MARKET MAY BE DIFFERENT THERE THAN HERE.

PORT SAINT LUCIE 50 AND ABOVE. HERE IT WILL PROBABLY BE A MIX OF SOME 30 ON UP -- 21 AND UP. PROBABLY GET SOME 21 AND UP.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: I WAS ASKING BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRING A BICYCLE RACK. I DO HAVE BICYCLE IN MY GARAGE AND I DO GET IT DUST IT OFF ONE OR TWICE A YEAR AND RIDE HALF A MILE, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO RIDE UP U.S. 1.

>> THE BICYCLE RACK WASN'T MY IDEA BUT IN THE AMUSEMENT CODE THAT A BICYCLE RACK IS REQUIRED.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: WE ASK FOR IT A LOT IN A LOT OF LOCATIONS. NOTHING BAD ABOUT THAT BUT TICKLED ME WHEN I SAW IT WITH THE ARCADE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WALKER. >> WALLER.

>> YES, I HAVE ANOTHER QUE QUESTION.

>> WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING A CHARGING STATION AT YOUR

FACILITY? >> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE. AND THERE ARE GRANTS -- WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND TRY TO DO THAT. ESPECIALLY WITH W A-W A BEING -- COMING UP NOT TOO FAR FROM THAT FACILITY.

>>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANYTHING ELSE.

>> PUT ONE IN. MAKE IT CHARGE REALLY SLOW.

YOUR FACILITY. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER:

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ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. >>FRANK CREYAUFMILLER: ANYONE ELSE FROM THE COMMUNITY SPEAKING.

NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

>> MR. CHAIR, YOU MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I GET THE REASON WHY THE CONDITIONAL USE IS IN EFFECT FOR DISTANCE HOWEVER I SEE NO CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO OPERATIONS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AGREE WITH MR. SESSION'S POINT HAVING MCDONALD'S AND BURGER KING ON OPPOSING CORNERS.

IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT AND I ALSO AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT THIS PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE REUTILIZED.

IT SAT EMPTY FOR YEARS. GETTING A COMMERCIAL INTEREST IN THERE. I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT EVEN TO THE NEIGHBORS.

IT IS GOING TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR AREA AS WELL WITH MORE TRAFFIC. IT IS GOING TO REDUCE THE CRIME ISSUE IN MY OPINION AND A GREAT WAY TO REPURPOSE THE FACILITY.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> YES.

>> MAKE A MOTION. TALKING ABOUT THE WAIVER.

MAKE A MOTION THAT THE WAIVER BE APPROVED.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION BY MR. BURDGE.

SECOND BY MISS BAKER. CALL THE ROLL.

>>MICHAEL BRODERICK: YES. >> MISS JOHNSON-SCOTT YES.