[Call to Order]
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THE REGULAR FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AURTHORITY CALLING TO OTHERER ON FEBRUARY 16TH. LET YOU KNOW THIS MEETING ALTERNATE 2:00 P.M. AND WAS ADVERTISED FOR THAT.
WE WILL HAVE AT THIS PRESENT TIME THE INVOCATION WITH CAROL.
>> I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE. WE WILL SKIP THAT.
>> WE WILL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.
CALL THE ROLL TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
TELL US WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE AGENDA.
[**Barbara Mika to present the Government Finance Officer Association’s Certificate of Achievement for Excellence in Financial Reporting Award for FPUA’s FY 2019 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR).]
>> BARBARA MIKA TO PRESENT THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER ASSOCIATION'S SECOND CERTIFICATE ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING AWARD.
THIS THE OUR COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR 2019. GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZE THAT GOVERNMENT THAT HAVE GONE BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF GENERAL ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. FPUA IMPARTIAL PANEL TO MEET HIGH STANDARD OF THE PROGRAM WHICH INCLUDES DEMONSTRATING THE TRANSPARENCY AND FULL DISCLOSURE.
WHICH CLEARLY COMMUNICATES ITS FINANCIAL RESULTS AND MOTIVATES POTENTIAL USER TO READ THE REPORT.
THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION IN THE AREA OF GOVERNMENT AND FINANCIAL REPORTINGS.
>> IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT AND ITS MANAGEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ACCOUNTING STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE COMPILATION OF THIS DOCUMENT.
FPUA IS ONE OF ALSO 300 GOVERNMENTISM AGENCY TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD FOR 2019. WE RECEIVE EVERY YEAR SINCE 1995 WHICH MAKES 25TH CON SEC TOUGH YEAR FOR THIS RECOGNITION. WE HAVE A PLAQUE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LOBBY THAT THEY SEND MEDALION TO UPDATE THE AWARD. I WANTED TO SHOW -- IT'S A LITTLE BIT HEAVY. I WANTED TO SHOW THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU. >> ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, WE THANK YOU AND ALL THE STAFF AND AT THIS TIME GIVE YOU A HAND.
[A. SET THE AGENDA.]
>> I NEED A MOTION TO SET THE AGENDA.
>> MOVE TO SET THE ALLEGED. >> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPER I WILL SECONDED.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:]
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY THE 2ND, 2021.>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 2ND. CAN CALL --
>> CALL THE ROLL CALL, MADAM SECRETARY.
PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S ANY MEMBER THAT WISH TO SPEAK YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO COME UP AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR THOSE THREE MINUTES. AS I SEE NONE, THE PUBLIC
[D. CONSENT AGENDA:]
HEARING IS CLOSED. >> NEXT ITEM CHAIR RECOGNIZE
THE CONSENT AGENDA APPROVAL. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I HAVE A
QUESTION ABOUT TWO IF, MAY. >> THE GRANT WRITER THE CONTRACT WILL STAY THE SAME FOR $251,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS
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THEN BILLABLE HOURS. WHO IS GOING TO MONITOR THOSE AND CONTROL AND LET US -- I MEAN WHEN THAT HAPPENING OVERAND ABOVE? >> WILL WE KNOW AT SOME POINT
WHEN IT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT? >> YES.
YES, WE ARE WILL. >> WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER
SIGNIFICANT? >> YOU KNOW IT DEPENDS ON -- DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF SUCCESS.
>> RIGHT. SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US.
>> I'M NOT SURE YOU HAVE A HARD NUMBER, BEAU, YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? PLEASE.
>> SO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FEES ARE IF A GRANT IS WAYWARDED. IT WILL BE IN THE AMOUNT OF
GRANT. >> IT DOESN'T GO INTO PLAY UNTIL SHE'S WORKING ON SPECIFIC GRANT.
THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.
THE ITEM THAT GOT US LAST TIME AROUND THE WAY THE CONTRACT WAS STRUCTURED BASICALLY SET UP AS A LUMP SUM PARTICULARLY ITEM.
THEN WE GET IN THERE AND SHE STARTS HAVING THE MODIFY THE GRANT FOR DIFFERENT AGENCIES, IT WAS JUST A LOT MORE TIME
CONSUMING. >> THERE WAS A LOT MORE WORK THAN SHE ANTICIPATED AND -- BUT THE PAY OFFS GOOD.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
SOMEONE MONITORING THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THEY HAD TO WORK SOMEWHERE?
>> SHE WORKS IN HER OWN OFFICE. SHE WILL TRAVEL HERE FOR MEETINGS ON OCCASION. NOT SO MANY LATELY.
SHE'S ALSO BEEN HERE FOR MEETINGS WITH THE DEP.
SOME OF OUR FIELD TRIPS TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO THEM SO THAT YOU KNOW THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING FOR AND
THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL AS WELL. >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE APPROVAL
FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED BY MISS GIBBONS THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[E. LETTERS OF APPRECIATION:]
GIVE US THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR LETTERS OFAPPRECIATION OR RECOGNITION. >> I HAVE AN MAIL FROM A MATT HINES SAYING HE HAD COMPEL LENGTH EXPERIENCE TODAY ON 1-26 OF 21 WITH YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE WENDY WITH MY NEW UTILITIES ACCOUNT. SHE WAS THOROUGH, COURTIOUS AND PROFESSIONAL AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.
THANK YOU WENDY FOR OVER AND BEYOND.
IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
>> MISS WENDY, SHE'S PRESENT. >> THIS IS A LETTER FROM
MUSEUMARD -- >> I'M SORRY THE UNITED STATES CENSUS 2021 THANKS FORT PETER UTILITIES AS INVALUABLE MEMBER OF THE 2020 CENSUS COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AND ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS YOU MAKE -- YOU MADE IN MAKING THE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM A SUCCESS AND HELPING ACHIEVE A SUCCESSFUL 2020 CENSUS.
LASTLY IT'S A LETTER FROM MUSEUMARD SEED MINISTRIES.
TO JAN ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF OF MUSEUMARD SEED MINISTRIES THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAITHFUL MONTHLY SUPPORT OF THIS ORGANIZATION ESPECIALLY NOW DURING THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK.
YOUR DONATION IS HELPING US CONTINUE TO SERVE THOSE IN CRISIS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. IT MAY BE ASSISTANCE WITH FOOD, MEDICATION, CLOTHING, RENT, MORTGAGE, FURNITURE, UTILITIES OR ANOTHER ONE OF OUR 17 SERVICES.
PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR CONSISTENT DONATIONS MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY FAMILY TO SUSTAIN AS WELL AS PERSIST IN FINDING WAYS TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVING SITUATIONS. IT'S AMAZING TO THINK THAT WE SERVED 62,349 PEOPLE IN 2019. AND THAT NUMBER HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY THIS YEAR. IT SHOULD MAKE YOUR FEEL GOOD THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR LOYALTY AND COMMITMENT OVER THE YEARS.
YOU HAVE BECOME A MAJOR SUPPORTER OF MUSTARD SEED.
WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITH OUT YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT OF OUR DONORS. IT'S A GROUP EFFORT THAT BUSHS
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THOSE IN NEED. STAY IN TOUCH BY VISITING OUR WEB SITE. THROUGH E-MAILS, SOCIAL MEDIA OR REGULAR CORRESPONDENCE. FEEL FREE TO CALL.PLEASE USE THIS DOCUMENT AS A TAX RECEIPT.
SINCERELY GREG SMITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MUSEUMARD SEED MINISTRIES? .
>> THANK YOU. THE CHAIR AND THE BOARD DOESN'T RECOGNIZE ANY OLD BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.
FOR NEW BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
[G.1. POA 21-16: Approve the piggybacking of JEA Invitation for Bid No. JCS-069-19 and Contract with SPE Utility Contractors FD, L.L.C., of Port Huron, Michigan, for Electrical Overhead Distribution/Transmission Unit Price Contract in an amount not to exceed $700,000 annually. The initial term of the contract will be from February 17, 2021 to January 31, 2022, with four one-year renewal options, contingent on receiving the required Certificates of Insurance.]
FIRST I'M A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL FOR ELECTRIC OVERHEAD TRABS MISSION SERVICES. ERIC MAHER WILL MAKE THEPRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK.
CHAIRMAN MATTHEWS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
FPUA IS REQUIRED TO PERFORM INSPECTION ON ELECTRIC POWER POLES FOR INTEGRITY AS REGULAR LITTED BY THE SERVICE COMMISSION INTERNALLY ENSURE RESILIENCY OF OUR POWER GRID.
STAFF ASSESSED MORE THAN 100 POWER POLES ARE IN NEED OF IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENT AND IN ADDITION TO REPLACEMENT BEING PERFORMED BY FPUA IN-HOUSE CREW CONTRACT HELP IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THE PROGRESS OF THE POLE REPLACEMENTS TO ENSURE STORM HARDENING DEADLINES ARE MET.
THE POLE REPLACEMENT WERE SENT OUT FOR A BID ON LUMP SIGN.
THEY RECOMMEND PIGGYBACKING THE JEA INVITATION WITH UTILITY CONTRACTORS. FPUA WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE CREWS UNDER THE UNIT PRICE CONTRACT FOR OVERHEAD TASK LIKE SECONDARY WIRY PLACEMENT AND IF NECESSARY BE UTILIZED FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS SUCH AS STORM RESTORATION.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD?
>> WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
>> MOTION AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 1.
ANY QUESTIONS? CALL THE ROLL, MADAM SECRETARY.
[G.2. Approve (1)(a) the Post Budgeted Project and Budget Transfer Request in the amount of $200,000, and (b) the associated Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) Utility Work Agreement to relocate FPUA’s 8” gas main, and (2)(a) the Post Budgeted Project and Budget Transfer Request in the amount of $68,000, and (b) the associated FDOT Utility Work Agreement to relocate FPUA’s 6” force main, for the Florida Turnpike Bridge/Glades Cutoff Road Improvements project]
THE NEXT ITEM REQUEST APPROVAL OF TWO POST BUDGETED PROJECT REQUEST AND TWO FDOT UTILITY FOR THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE BRIDGE GLADES ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND ERIC MEYER WILL MAKE THAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK.
>> CHAIR AND MEMBERS, FPUA 8-INCH GAS MAFRNG AND 6 INCH FORCE MAIN IN THE PROPOSED TURNPIKE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION OVER THE GLADES CUT OFF ROAD IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE PLANNED FDOT IMPROVEMENT AND MUST BE RELOCATED TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BRIDGE PEER PROTECTION WALL AMONG OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. THE -- BOTH THE 8 INCH GAS MAIN AND 6 INCH FORCE MAIN ARE LOCATED IN THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY, AS OPPOSED TO THE FDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. THEREFORE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT BY FDOT BECAUSE OF THEIR REQUEST TO RELOCATE THEM. FPUA IS REQUIRED TO SIGN FDOT UTILITY WORK AGREEMENT TO RECEIVE THE REIMBURSEMENT.
THE ESTIMATED COST TO RELOCATE THE GAS MAIN AND 6 INCH FORCE MAIN IS 2 L00,000 AND 68,000. FPUA STAFF WASN'T INFORMED OF THIS DURING THE CREATION OF THE BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.
THEREFORE TWO NEW BUDGET PROJECT ARE NEEDED BETWEEN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
FPUA WILL BE UTILIZING CONTINGENCY FUNDS FOR THE 8 INCH GAS MAINLY LOCATION. AND THE 6 INCH FORCE MAIN WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION AND AID.
STAFF IS LOOKING TO START BOTH PROJECTS IN THE MONTH OF MARCH WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE FDOT CONTRACTOR MOBILIZING IN JUNE.
STAFF RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE BOTH POST BUDGETED PROJECT AND BUDGET TRANSFERS ALONG WITH FDOT WORK AGREEMENTS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONIOUS MAY HAVE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
IST READING THROUGH THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME REPAYMENT WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN?
>> I BELIEVE PROBABLY WILL BE WHEN THE WORK IS GOING TO BE STARTED. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DETAILS ON THAT. I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR
I WAS WORRIED LIKE THE END OF COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT IS 2026. KIND OF SILLY IF WE PUT IT OUT
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THERE AND HAD TO WAIT WITHOUT GETTING INTEREST OR ANYTHINGBACK ON IT. >> I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. IS FIRST TIME YOU HAD A
SITUATION LIKE THIS? >> IN MY CAREER, HERE, YES.
THIS FIRST TIME I'VE ENCOUNTERED THIS TYPE OF PRE PROJECT. WE HAD THIS BEFORE.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST. I KNOW YOU'RE RELATIVELY NEW.
WE'VE HAD OTHER FDOT PROJECT WHERE WE ARE REIMBURSED.
I'M TRYING TO PIGGYBACK ON MISS GIBBONS HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO GET FINANCE REIMBURSED. [INAUDIBLE] ONCE WE HAVE DONE OUR WORK THEY WILL COME DOWN AND DO THE INSPECTIONS ONCE THEY CONSIDER IT COMPLETE, THEY WILL MAY US.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S NO REIMBURSE AS YOU GO ALONG.
IT'S REIMBURSE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE JUNE.
>> YES, YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE TO TRUST THEY WILL BE HERE. I MOVE APPROVAL.
>> I WILL SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECODED. THAT THE APPROVE ITEM 2 ON THE AGENDA. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM SECRETARY, CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU. AND THE NEXT ITEM IS FOLLOW UP
[G.3. POA 18-51: Approve Amendment No. 2 to the Gas Operations Unit Price Contract for the Installation of Gas Underground Utilities with Primoris Distribution Services, Inc. of Dade City, Florida, to increase the not-to-exceed contract amount by $200,000, from $550,000 to $750,000 annually, contingent upon receipt of the required Certificates of Insurance]
TO MR. MEYERS THAT REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR OUR UNIT PRICE GAS CONTRACTOR TO DO THIS WORK.FRED WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK, CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU FOR AMENDMENT NO. 2 TO OUR GAS UNIT PRICE CONTRACT WITH PRIMORIS DISTRIBUTION SERVICES INCORPORATED. THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT TO 550,000 AT THE FEBRUARY 2ND BOARD MEETING.
WE WILL NEAT AN ADDITIONAL 200,000 DOLLARS WHICH WILL BRING THEIR CONTRACT TOTAL UP TO 750,000.
THIS INCREASE IS FOR CUT OFF AND THE TURNPIKE.
OUR GAS MAIN CURRENTLY IN FEC EASEMENT AND THE STATE WANTS US TO DO -- WANTS TO DO BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TURNPIKE.
THEY NEED US TO RELOCATE OUR 8 INCH STEEL GAS LINE TO THE NORTH OUT OF FEC'S EASEMENT. THE STATE WILL REIMBURSE FOR THE RELOCATION BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE FEC EASEMENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS CONTRACT AMENDMENT NO. 2 WITH PRIMORIS DISTRIBUTION SERVICES INCORPORATED OF DADE CITY FLORIDA FROM $550,000 TO $750,000 TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. WHEN IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE
COMPLETED THEN? >> IT WILL TAKE OUR CONTRACTOR APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS FROM START TO FINISH.
>> OKAY. >> AND WE WILL BE GOING IN AFTER THE SEWER IS DONE WITH THEIR WORK.
>> OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE APRIL?
APRIL, BEGINNING OF MAY. >> AND THEN SO WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING PAID BACK IN THE SAME CYCLE AS TO WHEN IT'S
COMPLETED -- >> WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH D.O.T. ONCE THEY ARE COMPLETE THEY WILL REIMBURSE US.
>> OKAY. >> WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE
BOARD? >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 3. ANY QUESTIONS.
MADAM SECRETARY, CALL THE ROLL.
[G.4. Bill Comparisons for the Month of December 2020-For information only.]
NEXT ITEM BILL COMPARISON FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER 2020.MICHELLE HARRIS WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY THE MONTHLY UPDATE ON THE COMPARISONS OF FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC RATES PUBLISHED BY FPUA AND FOR DECEMBER.
THIS FIRST GRAPH SHOWS THE COMPARISON OF RESIDENTIAL RED THROW GRADES FOR 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS OF CONSUMPTION FOR 13 UTILITIES MEMBERS OF THE ALL REQUIREMENTS PROJECT.
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THEY ARE DISPLACED AND RANKED BASED UPON THEIR BASE BILL AMOUNT. DECEMBER RATES 108.84 SHOWN WITH THE YELLOW BAR BRINGS FPUA WITH THE SIXTH LOWEST IN THIS GROUP. THIS GRAPH DISPLAYS THE COMPARISON FOR THE SAME LEVEL OF CONSUMPTION BUT ALL MUNICIPAL FACILITIES IN. BILL 108.84 BRINGS TO THE MIDDLE COMPARED TO OTHER UTILITY.IN DECEMBER WHILE FPUA MAINTAINED RATE FOR ANOTHER MONTHS 11 OF 31 MUNICIPAL UTILITY IMPLEMENTED RATE CHANGES. THE OVERALL IMPACT OF RATE ADJUSTMENTS RESULTED IN DECREASE OF A $1.08 AND DECREASE OF 79 CENTS FOR THE MUNICIPAL AVERAGE.
FPUA RATE FOR 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS FALLS BELOW ALL THREE AVERAGES. THIS GRAPH PRESENTS A SIMILAR COMPARE UPON 2500 KILOWATT HOURS OF CONSUMPTION.
FPUA BILL AT 274.80 PUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS GROUP AS WELL.
OUR RATES FOR 2500 KILOWATT HOURS FALL BELOW THE AVERAGE BUT JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE MUNICIPAL AVERAGE.
>> THIS TABLE DISPLAYED AS THE DECEMBER COMPARISON OF THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY BILLS ON THE TREASURE COAST.
FPUA BILL FOR ALL SERVICES PROVIDE INSIDE SIT LIMITS SHOWN IN THE FIRST COLUMN IN BLUE. ALL OTHER BILLS HAVE ELECTRIC SERVICES SHOWN BY FP&L BY THE LOCALITY PROVIDER.
THESE TOTAL INCLUDE ALL TAXES AND FEES AND HAVE BEEN VERIFIED BY STAFF TO ACTUAL HISTORICAL BILLS.
THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES TO ANY BILLS SINCE THE NOVEMBER
COMPARISON WAS PRESENTED. >> THIS NEXT TABLE WAS AT THE REQUEST OF MISS CAVALCANTE AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING.
THIS COMPARISON OF THE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY BILLS BUT USING 750 KILOWATT HOURS OF CONSUMPTION JUST FOR ELECTRIC.
FPLE RATE ARE TIERED WHETHER UNDER 750 OR OVER AND FPL IS 1,000 KILOWATT. OUR AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CONSUMPTION FOR DECEMBER WAS ABOUT 750 KILOWATT HOURS.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PRESENTED FOR INFORMATION ONLY.
AND REQUIRES NO ACTION. HOWEVER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.
>> BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE IN QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM?
[G.5. Island Water Reclamation Facility Relocation-For information only]
MR. CHAIRMAN THE NEXT ITEM PRESENTATION OF THE PLAN FOR RELOCATING THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY OFF THE ISLAND. TO THE MAINLAND.I'M SURE YOU KNOW MOST OF THE PLAYERS BUT LET ME INTRODUCE OUR PRESENTERS TODAY. WE HOWARD TIPTON THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. MARK SATTERLY DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. GEORGE LANDRY DIRECT O OF PUBLIC UTILITY. AND BEAU HUTCHINSON.
I THINK WE WILL START WITH SOME GENERAL REMARKS FROM HOWARD BOUT THE TIMING AND THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IN FRONT OF
US. >> THANK YOU AND GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S NICE TO BE OUT AND ACTUALLY SEE PEOPLE. IT'S ALSO NICE TO NOT BE TALKING ABOUT VACCINES OR THE VIRUS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S ACTUALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE HERE.
BEFORE I GET STARTED I JUST WANT TO THANK JOHN AND BEAU.
I WANTED TO THANK GEORGE AND MARK AND OUR CONSULTANTS.
IT'S A TEAM EFFORT AND THIS TEAM IS BRINGING TO YOU TODAY A VISION OF WHAT CAN BE. IT'S NOT GUARANTEED BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINE NAIKS. THIS FIRST OF MANY STEPS.
IT'S A VISION THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERATION AND CERTAINLY WORTH THE TIME THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
I THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANCE TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
AND SO TO THAT POINT, WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY IS ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE THAT COMES ALONG ONCE IN A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT UTILITY PLANTS, THEY ARE THINGS THAT YOU BUILD FOR DECADES AND DECADES. AND SO WHEN WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OFTEN. AND SO WE SAY ONCE IN A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS. THE COUNTY UTILITIES DISTRICT WHICH IS LED BY MR. LANDRY, NEEDS TO CONSOLIDATE OUR SMALLER PLANTS ON THE MAINLAND INTO ONE MODERN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING PLANS FOR A SITE ON TAYLOR DAIRY ROAD WEST OF THE AIRPORT.
AND WE'VE GOT THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
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IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND LIKE I SAID WE WILL BE THERE FOR DECADES TO COME. BUT WHAT IF RATHER THAN BUILD A SEPARATE PLANT THE DISTRICT IN UA COULD COME TOGETHER AND BUILD A PLANT TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHY THIS FIRST SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS IDEA.IT'S NOT A NEW IDEA. TO MOVE THE EXISTING UA PLANT OFF SOUTH HUCH. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT THE IDEA OF COLLABORATING TO BUILD A JOINT PLANT AND IN DOING SO CREATING THE SCALE AND THE ECONOMIC THAT MAKE THIS AN ATTRACTIVE PROPOSITION FOR OUR GOVERNING BOARDS CONSIDERATION. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TIMING, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PLANT ON THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND THAT'S NOT IDEAL. WE KNOW THAT WEATHER PATTERNS ARE SHIFTING AND THERE'S MORE INTENSE STORM.
WATER ARE RISING WE ONLY HAVE TO LOOK TO KEYS AND MIAMI TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE DORIAN CAUTIONARY TAIL FOR FLORIDA AS IF IT HAD NOT PAUSED OVER THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS BUT RATHER OVER THE TREASURE COAST, AS IT WAS FORECASTED TO DO, THE DEVASTATION WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETE INCLUDING THIS WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF A PARTNERSHIP COULD BE ACHIEVED, IT WOULD NEED TO CHECK A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT BOXES AND I BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU DOES THAT. A JOINT PLANT NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE EXPANDED TO MEET FUTURE GROWTH NEEDS.
AND NEEDS TO BE BETTER BUSINESS DECISION THAN EITHER THE UA OR THE DISTRICT GOING ITS OWN WAY. IT'S THE DISTRICT, THE PARTNER THAT THE UA HAS BEEN WAITING FOR SO THE IMPACT TO RATE PAYERS ARE REASONABLE AND OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF I BELIEVE THAT IT MIGHT BE. IF ONE PLANT CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH UTILITIES, WE ELIMINATE THE NEED OF MULTIPLE FACILITIES AND DEEP INJECTION WELLS LOOKING AT BOTH CAPACITY AND OPERATIONAL COST A NEW MODERN PLANT WITH THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY OFFERS THE CHANCE FOR THE BEST SERVICE OF THE LOWEST COST. AND AS WE LOOK FOR GRANTS TO HELP REDUCE THE COST OF A JOINT PROJECT, IN A GOVERNMENTAL COLLABORATION CHECKS IMPORTANT BOXES FOR THE GRANTING AGENCIES AND OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION PARTNERS.
LASTLY, WE KNOW THAT WITH EACH PASSING YEAR THE COST OF BUILDING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY GETS MORE EXPENSIVE.
THE OLD ADAGE TIME THE MONEY THE TRUE WHEN APPLIED TO THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE ALL SHOULD HAVE INTEREST IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE TO MORE FITTING POTENTIAL FOR ITS WATERFRONT LOCATION. IN ALL OF THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF THIS PLANT THE RELOCATED. AT SOME POINT WHETHER THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DISTRICT OR NOT, UA WILL RELOCATE THE PLANT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT JUST SEEMS TO PROFESSIONAL STAFF INVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES, THAT IF A JOINT PROSPECT IS POSSIBLE, AND IT MEETS THE ECONOMIC AND OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF BOTH ENTITIES AND THAT COLLABORATION COULD LEAD TO MORE GRANT FUNDING AND IT HELPS PROTECT INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND LEADS TO REDEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGIC WATERFRONT PROPERTY THEN AS A PROJECT IT SHOULD RECEIVE OUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF CONSIDERATION.
TODAY IS ABOUT TIMING AND EXPLORING WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD COME TOGETHER NOW. IT'S A ONCE IN EVERY TWO GENERATION OPPORTUNITY AND THE QUESTION FOR THIS GOVERNING BOARD AND OUR GOVERNING BOARDS IS AN IDEA THAT TIME HAS FINALLY COME. FROM MY BACKGROUND BECAUSE MANY OF YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF OPERATING SOME VERY LARGE UTILITIES. IN ORANGE COUNTY WHETHER I WAS DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR I HAD ROUGHLY 80MGD OPERATIONS BENEATH ME. IN BRIEFARD COUNTY WE HAD 30MGD OPERATION. I COME WITH LARGE UTILITY BACKGROUND. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH EXPANSIONS BEFORE. THIS COLLABORATION I THINK IS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. SO I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO KICK THIS OFF. AND IT WILL TURN IT OVER NOW BACK TO JOHN. AND I WILL STEP OUT OF THE WAY.
I WANT TO ECHO HOWARD'S COMMENT ON THE OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US. HE TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, AND YOU KNOW I LIKE TO GET TO POINT WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO BOARD WHY WE ARE DISCHARGING WATER INTO THE LAGOON. EVEN IF IT'S CLEAN WATER.
I DON'T WANT TO BE DISCUSSING THAT IN, IN THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE A TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY IN TERNLTS OF FINANCING.
I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THE RATES ARE HISTORIC LOWS THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT AND START TO FINANCE IT. I MEAN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS, WE CAN ALL REMEMBER WHEN THE COUNTY AND FPUA ROUTINELY ARGUED BY SERVICE TERRITORIES.
WATER RATES AND IMPACT FEES. THOSE PROBLEMS CAME TO HEAD BACK IN 2004. WHEN THE ORIGINAL INTERLOCAL
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AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED. AND THAT APPROVED IDENTIFIED SERVICE BOUNDARIES, WATER RATE IMPACT FEES.EVEN BACK IN 2004, THE ORIGINAL INTERLOCAL CONTAINED LANGUAGE REQUIRING THE PARTIES TO PLAN AND CONSTRUCT A FUTURE MAINLAND WASTEWATER PLANT AS PARTNER SHARING THE COST ON ALLOCATED BASIS. YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES. AFTER A LOT OF YEARS AND CONTINUED EVOLUTION OF THE ORIGINAL LOCAL AND FPUA STAFF START CONSTRUCTIVE MEETING IN 2018 AND 2019.
WHICH ULTIMATELY LED TO AMENDED INTERLOCAL ON 2019.
THE MAIN AREA OF CHANGE THERE WERE TARIFFS AND METHOD OF CALCULATING CAPITAL IMPROVEENT CHARGES.
IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGES WE AGREED ON JOINT STUDY ON WHERE TO RELOCATE THE ISLAND BRF. THE COUNTY AND FPUA FUNDED THE STUDY WHICH WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED AND RECOMMENDED THE SITE ADJACENT TO TREASURE COAST ENERGY CENTER OFF OF SELBETS ROAD. ONE OF THE POSITIVE OUTCOME FROM THE REVISED INTERLOCAL WAS A LEVEL OF COOPERATION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND FPUA STAFF. THE MEETING WERE POSITIVE.
THEY WERE PRODUCTIVE. NO ANIMOSITY.
NO HOSTILITY. THE GROUP IS LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS. WE WANT TO CAPTURE THE COOPERATION MOVING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE.
OUR GOALS TODAY I THINK RELATIVELY SIMPLE.
WE WANT TO EDUCATE YOU AND UPDATE YOU ON THE PROPOSED PLAN. WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT WHY THE TIMING IS RIGHT NO MOVE AHEAD.
WE WILL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REUTILIZATION OF THE CAUSEWAY. YOUR ALSO GOING TO HEAR THE DETAILS OF THE COST OF THE NEW PLANT AND THE WAY WE THINK IT CAN BE FUNDED. THE LAST TOPIC WILL BE THE GOVERNANCE OF THE NEW PLANT AND THE CREATION OF AN ENTITY TO MANAGE THE NEW FACILITY. OUR HOPE FOR OUTCOME OF THIS MEETING GENERAL CONSENSUS YOU FEEL WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE THROWING A LOT OF INFORMATION YOUR WAY THIS AFTERNOON AND SOME OF THE TOPICS ARE FAIRLY COMPLEX. WE KNOW YOU LIKE TO HEAR MORE DETAILS. AND WE WILL BE SCHEDULED WORKSHOPS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT SPECIFIC AREA OF THE PLAN SUCH AS RATES AND GOVERNMENTS WILL REQUIRE ONGOING APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD. ONE OTHER JUST QUICK NOTE WE RECOGNIZE THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH RELOCATING THE PLANT. THOSE CONCERNS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO CONCENTRATE ON THE PLAN TODAY AND LIMIT THE DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS TO THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION. WE KNOW THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP ASSOCIATED WITH MOVING THE PLAN. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT MOVING THE PLANT TODAY. NOT SOME OF THE ISSUE.
THEY WILL GET RESOLVED IN THE FUTURE I'M SURE.
WITH THAT BRIEF INTRODUCTION, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE MARK SATTERLY MOVE ON TO NEXT ECTION OF REUTILIZATION OF THE
CAUSEWAY AREA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
AS HOWARD SAID AND JOHN HAVE SAID, BEAU AND GEORGE HAVE REALLY STRUCK A GOOD PARTNERSHIP.
THEY WORK WELL TOGETHER. I'VE WORKED FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR GOING ON 15 YEARS. I'VE KNOWN BEAU FROM NATURE'S WAY GYM AND SO. IT'S NICE TO GET A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THEM. SO I THINK YOU KNOW, AS I WORKED FOR THE COUNTY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT EXIST OUT ON SOUTH HUTCHINSON ISLAND AND EVERY DISCUSSION, EVERY VISION AND SHREDDING SESSION IS ALWAYS BEGAN -- BEGAN AND ENDND WITH THE WASTEWATER PLANT BEING MOVED. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW WE'VE -- I THINK EACH ONE OF THOSE VISIONING SECTIONS HAVE ALWAYS VENVISIONED MIXED USE. HOTEL, RETAIL.
MORE BOATING, LOTS OF RESIDENTIAL.
BUT THAT'S REALLY KIND AS FAR AS IT HAS GOT.
IT'S JUST A VISION. IN ADDITION TO THE DETAILED ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WE HAD DONE. WE ALSO COMMISSIONED AN ECONOMIC AND MARKET ANALYSIS FOR THE SITE IF WITH PLANT WERE GONE. AND SO THAT STUDY IS IN YOUR PACKET. I WILL NOT BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS. ANYONE WHO HAS TAKEN ECONOMICS KNOWS THAT IS A SLEEPILY SUBJECT.
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SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW WITH THE PLANT GONE AND THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE GOING OUT FOR RFP ON REDEVELOPING THE SITE. THE IMPACT ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT GIVEN THE LAND USE THE ZONING THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE AREA, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS.SEVERAL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND THEN IN THE PICTURES THAT WE'VE SHOWN YOU WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. THE MARKET WILL DETERMINE THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WHAT RED TAIL HAWK IS PRESENTED AND WHAT THE OTHER VISIONS HAVE SHOWN OBVIOUSLY THIS MIXED USE OF FAIRLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE WATERFRONT CERTAINLY HARBOR ISLE NEXT DOOR INDICKTY WHAT COULD GO THERE.
THAT'S 900 UNITS. YOU KNOW WE THINK IT WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL SPOT. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL SPOTTED. THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE LARGE.
THIS ECONOMIC ANALYSIS PROJECTS A FOUR TO FIVE TIME RETURN ON INVESTMENT. 130 TO 150 MILION THAT WOULD BE SPENT TO RELOCATE THE PLANT. THAT EVEN PROJECTED WITHIN THREE YEARS WE COULD RECOUP THE INITIAL INVESTMENT.
EN IF IT'S NOT SO ROSEY. WHAT IF IT IS ONLY 2-TO-1 IT'S A GREAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ECONOMIC ANALYSES ARE TOO OPTIMISTIC. THINK THEY WERE CONSERVATIVE.
BUT I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS GREAT.
YOU KNOW EVERY VISITING LOOKED AT THE PLANT BEING GONE.
I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
FT. PIERCE WILL LEAD THE CHARGE ON THAT.
THAT'S REALLY IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HE REPORT IS IN YOUR PA. IT'S QUITE DETAILED.
>> THANK YOU. >> BOARD MEMBERS?
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. MR. TOMPECK IT'S NOT IN OUR PACKET. I THINK IT WAS FOR THE JOINT
MEETING. >> IT WAS THE JOINT MEETING.
IT IS IN THE JOINT MEETING. >> GOOD CATCH.
>> ALL RIGHT IT'S MY TURN. I WILL TALK ABOUT THE SLEEPY SUBJECT OF FINANCES TO START WITH.
WE'LL START OUT WITH THE COST. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POTENTIAL INCOME STREAMS THAT WE CAN HAVE FOR THE NEW PLANT LOCATION. THAT WILL OFF SET SOME OF THOSE DEBT SERVICE COST. FIRST OFF THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE PLANT IN TODAY'S DOLLAR IS AROUND $138.5 MILLION.
WHEN WE EXTRAPOLATE TO 2028 AND ADD IN CAPITALIZED INTEREST WE END WITH 156 MILLION. THAT'S AN OUTSIDE SNUB.
ALTITUDE ESTIMATE. I THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS EVEN THE NUMBERS THAT MR. SETTERLY THOSE ARE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES WE CAN GIVE YOU BECAUSE THEN WE CAN ONLY WIN; RIGHT? IF WE DO BETTER THAN THAT.
THE INITIAL COST SHARE PROPOSED AT 70-30 SPLIT.
THAT GIVES FPLA5.6 MILLION PER DAY OF TREATMENT CAPACITY AND 109 MILLION AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY 2.4 MILLION PER DAY OF CAPACITY AT 47 MILLION. A POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THIS. MR. TIPTON SUCHED ON THIS AS THERE'S ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT COMES IN THE SIZE OF THE PLANT.
AND WE ARE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE AN MGD PLANT MORE EFFICIENTLY AT LOWER COST THAN FPUA COULD MAKE 6MGD PLANT OR ST. LUCIE COULD DO 2.5 PLANT. IN MY MIND ANYWAY THE ECONOMICS ARE THERE FOR THE PARTNERSHIP AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO FIND THE LOWEST COST SOLUTION FOR BOTH OF OUR SERVICE TERRITORIES. THEY ARE ALL OUR RESIDENTS.
ON TO COST OFF SETS. PRODUCE AT THE PLANT WE CAN SELL THAT TO FLORIDA MUNICIPAL POWER ASSOCIATION.
POWER PLANT WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
WE ESTIMATE THAT ABOUT 1.1 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
AND THAT'S BASED ON COMPARABLE FACILITY IN THAT DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO HERE.
AND THEN AS NUMBERS ARE APPLIED TO THE AMOUNT OF COOLING WATER THAT OUR PLANT WOULD NEED. THE KISS -- DISPOSAL.
WE DISPOSE OF SOME OF SAINT LOOTY COUNTY.
WE WOULD PUT IN MINIMAL PRETREATMENT BETWEEN THAT AND THE FACT THERE'S ANOTHER FIVE MILLION OF FLOW IT WOULD DILUTE
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IT ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THAT AS RELIABLE SERVICE TO THE LANDFALL. THAT'S AN ESTIMATED AROUND 600,000. OUR INDUSTRIAL PRETREATMENT PROGRAM EARNS AROUND 80,000 PER YEAR.THAT'S ANOTHER MARKET THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND TO EXPAND MORE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
THE LAST ONE I REALLY LIKE BECAUSE I'M AN ENGINEER.
I LIKE EFFICIENCY. OUR COMBINED TREATMENT COST FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND OUR FBLA FACILITY AROUND 1750 PER MILLION GALENS PER DOW. IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE NEW PLANT THE NEW HIGHLY EFFICIENT PLANT A LITTLE BIT OVER 1400 PER MILLION. THAT'S ABOUT 600,000 OF SAVING RIGHT OFF THE BAT. IF YOU PUTTING GREATGATE OF ALL THAT TOGETHER. 2.4 MILLION OFF SET RIGHT THERE. THE OTHER ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST IS THE OUTSIDE IRRIGATION WATER SALES.
EVERYTHING WE SHOW YOU HERE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
AND IT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL IN THE FUTURE.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY ESTIMATES ON IT.
WE'LL LEE IT OFF THE BOARD NOW NOW.
>> MOVING ON TO DEBT SERVICE STRATEGIES.
THIS YEAR IT'S OUR GOAL TO CREATE THE JOINT OPERATIONAL BOARD. AND GET THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS IN FRONT OF THE FPUA AND THE CITY COMMISSION AND ALSO THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY COMMISSION.
ONE OF OUR GOALS HERE TODAY IS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT PARTICULAR PART AND ALONG WITH THE OTHER BARTS WE WOULD USE THAT FOR THE FIRST DRAFT. IF WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE JOINT MEETING. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
WE FAILED IN TIME TO MAKE THAT WORK THIS TIME.
IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO EACH INDIVIDUAL BOARD.
THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO. THEN WE MOVE INTO THE DESIGN PERMITTING AND EASEMENT ACQUISITION PHASE.
THAT WILL START NEXT YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT EASEMENT THAT'S REQUIRED ON THE VERY SOUTH END OF JENKINS ROAD THAT WOULD COME TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PLANT. WE WANT A START ON THAT.
CONSTRUCTION AND THE COMMISSIONING OF THE PLANT PULLING SOME FEEL ESTIMATES 3 YEARS THAT WOULD START IN 2024 AND BE DONE IN 2027. AND ANY ONE WHO SAT THROUGH ANY OF MY PRESENTATIONS I'M MOVING THIS PLANT THE VERY FIRST BULL ELT POINT HOW TO WE MAY FOR IT. LAST BULLET POINT HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT. WE STARTED WORKING WITH PARTNER ALTERNATE ST. LUCIE COUNTY. MR. LANDRY IN PARTICULAR SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO THIS STARTED TO EMERGE.
A CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE IS A VERY HIGH RATE INCREASE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT WAS ALMOST A WALL, IF YOU WILL. WHEN YOU HAVE TO INCREASE THE RATE THAT MUCH TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE.
DO SMALL RAISES YEAR TO YEAR AND IN THIS CASE FIVE-YEAR PHASE-IN. AND IT WOULD RELIEVE SOME OF THE BURN DEN GOING FORWARD WITH THE FPUA NUMBER AND MISS LANDRY WILL SHOW ST. LUCIE COUNTY SPECIFIC NUMBERS.
ANOTHER PART THAT CAME OUT OF OUR INTERACTIONS WAS THE POTENTIAL OF USING ARF LOANS. TO BE ABLE TOW DEFER OUR DEBT IS EVERYTHINGS THIS WOULD GIVE US TIME TO GET THE RATES TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. IN ORDER TO MEET THAT DEBT SERVICE AS WELL. NOW, WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, FOR THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE 2022.
WE WILL BE CREATING AN ESCROW. IT'S FAIRLY NILT THAT MONEY COULD BE USED TO OFF SET CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.
WE WILL HAVE HIRE THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO HELP US FIND THE BEST LOANS. WE'VE ON LOOKED AT SRF SO FAR.
ONCE WE GET PROFESSIONAL ONBOARD WE WILL FIND THE MOST EFFICIENT SOLUTION THERE AS WELL.
ALL OF THAT COST MONEY. BUT WE'LL HAVE INDUSTRYING L GOING FORWARD. THE OTHER PART WE WILL DO WE WOULD LOOK AT THE RATE INCREASES EVERY YEAR.
IT WOULD BE OUR PRO PEACE TOLL GET THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE AHEAD OF TIME. IF IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THAT HIGH. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO.
THE OTHER FACTOR NOT INCLUDED. THERE'S NO FACTOR IN THIS FOR GROWTH. AND WE HAVE A DESCENT GROWTH RATE GOING ON THAT WILL HELP CHIP AWAY AT THE AMOUNT WE NEED
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TO BORROW AS WELL. WE WILL BE STRONGER AS WE GO FORWARD. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT ACKRO NEM. SRF IS -->> DON'T KNOW THE ACRONYM. FUNDING MECHANISM THROUGH THE STATE RESOLVING LOAN THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BORROW 49% OF THE PROJECT. IT HAS A VERY FLEXIBLE REPAYMENT PLAN WITH DEFERMENT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
>> ARE THOSE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS OR THE SAME THING?
>> TWO DIFFERENT. SUBSET UNDER THE SRF.
IT HAS ITS OWN FUNDING MECHANISM AND METH OF REPAYMENT. WE NEED WORKING CAPITAL TO START THE BONDING PROCESS AND ALL OF THAT.
TO FUND US GOING TO TALLAHASSEE WITH OUR TEN CUPS.
WE WILL POUND THE PAVEMENT FOR SOME GRANTS ON THIS THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL GET AT LEAST SOME FUNDING FROM THE STATE. ON TO THE FPUA SPECIFIC NUMBERS. OUR DEBT SERVICE IN 2027 IS PROSECUTED TO BE AROUND 4.7 MILLION DOLLARS.
AND TO GET THERE THERE'S A COUPLE OF METHODOLOGIES WE COULD USE. THE ONE TO PUT IT ALL ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE THEN SEPARATE BETWEEN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER. THIS IS WHAT STAFF FEEL MORE ADVANTAGEOUS AT THIS TIME. YOU THINK ABOUT IT EVENTUALLY ALL OF OUR WATER CAPACITIES WILL BE WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS AS WELL. THEN WE'RE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THAT AMONG A LARGER POPULATION AND KEEP THE IMPACT LOWERS AS WELL. SO IF IT IS APPLIED TO BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER. IT WOULD REQUIRE A 2.5% RATE INCREASE PER YEAR. AND THAT EQUATES TO AROUND $2.13 ON EACH BILL FOR EACH FOR AN AVERAGE OF RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. YOU KNOW THERE'S NO MAGIC MONEY. THERE'S NO COMPANY THAT WILL FLY IN FROM ANOTHER TOWN AND DO THIS FOR FREE.
IT'S SIMPLY NOT REALISTIC. BY DOING THIS WAY AND WE CAN KEEP THE COST AND THE BURDEN DOWN ON OUR RESIDENTS.
IT MAKES IT A SOLID PLAN AND VERY DOABLE.
I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN AMOUNT IN ESCROW BY THESE OUTSIDE NUMBERS, WE WOULD END UP WITH AROUND 9 POIRNT 2 MILLION TO USE UP FRONT OBJECT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I WILL TURN OVER TO MR. LANDRY.
HE WILL TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> OKAY.
BACK TO THE OFF SETS. THE LAST BULLET.
YOU SAID REDUCE THE COMBINED TREATMENT COST FROM 1750 TO 1412 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. I GUESS -- THAT'S COMBINED FOR FPUA AND THE DISTRICT? Ô> YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S FOR BOTH OF US, YES. ALL -- WHAT IS FPUA'S CURRENT
COST? >> I'M SURE I HAVE IT IN THE STACK OF PAPERS. I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY
>> THIS THE MURRAY HAMILTON. HE'S OUR RATE CONSULTANT.
IT'S HIS FIRM THAT DID THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
>> THANK YOU, BEAU. MR. CHAIR AND MEMBER OF THE BOARD IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME FOR A SECOND.
FOR THE RECORD I'M MURRAY HAMILTON SENIOR MANAGER UTILITY RATE AND FINANCIAL CONSULTING FIRM WITH FLORIDA OFFICE IN MAITLAND OUTSIDE OF ORLANDO. AND OUR FIRM JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE RATE CONSULT ATLANTA FOR RECORD GOT ON FOR FPUA BUT FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY. PART OF THE TEAM IS ROB HORRY WITH THE COUNTY IN THE PAST IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR RATE NEEDS.
HE'S ONE OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS ON THE TEAM.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT JOE FRANKO IS WITH US. HERE'S HERE TODAY.
HE SUPPORTED THE ANALYSIS. I'M NOT SURE IF JAY IS HERE.
JAY GLOVER AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY HELPED PROVIDE THE BACKGROUND ON THE LOANS. MORE SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION YOU ASKED WHAT FPUA'S COST ARE TODAY.
THIS IS MEASURED BASED ON. WE DID ONE-YEAR LOOK BACK ACTUAL COST. IT'S WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SPEND ON THE TREATMENT SITE APPROXIMATELY 2.4 MILLION.
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IF THE NEW PLANTS PUS IN PLATE TODAY.FPUA COST WOULD BE 2.1 MILLION. ITS WOULD BE REDUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 200,000. NOW ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, THAT WOULD NOT BE GREATER IS FPUA CURRENTLY SERVES THE COUNTY AS A BULK CUSTOMER. IN THIS JOINT RELATIONSHIP WE'RE GOING TO FORGO SOME REVENUES.
THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT WE WOULD LOSE THE COUNTY AS A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER.
FPUA'S COST GO DOWN. THAT'S 10% REDUCTION FOR FPUA.
TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COUNTY FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY THEIR COMBINED COST IS 1.2 MILLION. AND NVR N IF IT WAS BUILT TODAY WOULD BE HALF MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO IT'S -- FOR THE COUNTY IT'S A SAVINGS OF ALMOST 700,000 A YEAR.
AGAIN AS IF PLANT WAS BUILT TODAY.
IN ADDITION, IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME JUST A SECOND.
PART OF OUR SCOPE, OUR SCOPE WAS TWOFOLD.
THE FIRST PART OF THE SCOPE AS STAFF WAS SHOULD WE BUILD THE PLANT. IT'S ADJACENT TO TREASURE COAST INNERSENIOR. THAT'S TRACK ONE.
YOU HEARD THAT INFORMATION AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY.
THE SECOND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT REALLY PRIMARILY INVOLVED ROB AND I AND, AGAIN THIS ALL CONCEPTUAL.
WHAT CONCEPTUAL COST-SHARE ARRANGEMENT.
WE DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT THE ENTITY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENTITY WHAT THE ENTITY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
LET'S KEEP IN MIND IF QUESTION ENTITY WE HAVE MANAGEMENT COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THAT HASN'T BEEN ASSUMED YET.
IN ADDITION, IT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED WE'VE GOT MORE PLANNING TO DO. THE ENGINEERS HAVE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ROUTING STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO GET THE WASTEWATER TO THE NEW MWRF. THOSE NEED TO BE LOOKED AT IN MORE DETAIL. AND AT LEAST TODAY YOU KNOW AS -- CONTRIBUTES A PORTION OF REVENUE TORE FPUA OVERHEAD AS ALL CUSTOMERS DO. THEY CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THE WASTEWATER PLANT COST AND THEY ALSO KRISHT TOCONTRIBUTE TO TH PLANT. THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT NEED MORE STUDYING. I DIDN'T MEAN TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. WE'LL BE AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS. .
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> PLEASE.
>> IT COST FPUA DOUBLE WHAT IT COST THE COUNTY TO TREAT SO MANY MILLIONS OF GALLONS PER DAY.
>> NO, MA'AM. ACTUALLY, IT COST FPUA LESS TO TREAT WEST WATER. OF THE FLOWS 95% OF THE FLOWS TODAY RELATE TO FPUA SYSTEM. ON A COST PER MILLION GALLON BASIS, IT'S A MUCH. THE COST PER GALLON TREATED IS QUITE HIGH. AND PART OF THAT IS THEY HAVE THE SMALLER PLANTS THAT ARE SCATTERED ABOUT THEY HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT HELPS TO MANAGE THE COST.
IT'S MUCH GREATER THAN FPUA. THAT'S WHY THIS IS A DEFINITELY A GOOD SELECTION FOR THE COUNTY IMMEDIATELY IN ORDER TO DO SOME TYPE OF JOINT ARRANGEMENT HERE. THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
IF YOU TAKE THE DOLLARS DIVIDED BY THE GALLONS.
>> COST FPUA -- >> FOR 5 MILLION GALLONS OF
>> COMPARED 1.2 MILLION FOR THE COUNTY AND IT'S PROBABLY 500,000 GALLONS OF FLOW. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO BE MORE
PRECISE. >> I THINK SIMPLE ANSWER 1613 PER MILLION DOLLARS PER DAY WHAT FPUA IS PAYING RIGHT NOW.
BUT WHAT MURRAY POINT IS OFF SET.
THE FLOWS ARE SO DIFFERENT THAT THAT NUMBER YOUTH WEIGHS SIGNIFICANTLY WEIGHTED HIGHER THAN WHAT ST. LUCIE COUNT NUMBERS ARE. IN THAT ESTIMATE.
>> WHAT WAS THE LAST PART? >> THE COUNTRY FLOW ARE SMALL COMPARED FPUA. WHEN YOU DO THE WAITED AVERAGE
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THERE FPUA NUMBERS REALLY DOMINATE.>> AS AN EXAMPLE, AS BEAU POINTED OUT.
FPUA ALTERNATE THE TIME OF ENGINEERING STUDY IT WOULD RIGHT AROUND 1600. AN UPDATED NUMBER FOR 2020 WAS 1,417 DOLLARS. FOR THE COUNTY'S PLANT AND THERE'S THREE OF THEM BETWEEN FAIR WINDS LAKEWOOD PARK AND HOLIDAY PINES BECAUSE OF THE LOW FLOAT RANGE PER MILLION GALLONS TO A HIGH OF 12,241 DOLLARS PER GALLON.
AND AGAIN IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FIXED OPERATING COST OF THE SMALLER PLANTS RELATIVE TO THE FLOW.
>> IT'S ALSO OUR PLAN TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP GOING FORWARD AND WE WOULD HAVE ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSES ON JUST THE MONEY. WE HAVE MURRAY COME IN AND DO A FULL PRESENTATION. AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE NUTS AND BOLTS. THAT COULD BE A THREE-HOUR
CONVERSATION BY ITSELF. >> PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. PLEASED TO BE HERE.
SO FIST AND FOREMOST OUR SLIDE LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO THE SLIDE YOU JUST SEEN FROM FPUA. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IF WE APPLY THIS SIMILAR MINDSET ON THE RATE INCREASES ACROSS ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND WATERVLIET WE WOULD HAVE 2.1 RATE INCREASE PER YEAR OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS TO HELP US ACHIEVE THE GOAL WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOR DEBT SERVICE AND ANNUAL OPERATION. THAT WOULD CREATE US 2.2 MILLION IN ESCROWED MONEY AT THAT POINT RIGHT THERE TO USE TO HELP OFF SET FOR FUTURE THINGS.
THE SAME AS WHAT BEAU SAID. OURS IS LOT LESS THAN WHAT YOURS WAS. IT'S BASED ON CUSTOMER SIDE.
THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS OUT. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS SLIDE IS GOVERNANCE AND PLEASE DON'T GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TITLE OF THIS SLIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD HELP US MOVE THIS FORWARD CREATING A JOINT OPERATIONS BOARD. AND ONE WOULD SAY WHY WOULD WE DO THAT. WHO WANTS ANOTHER AGENCY OUT THERE GOVERNING AGENCY. THIS WOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.
THIS WOULD BE MORE OF JOINTED OPERATION BOARD MEANING FOLKS LIKE BEAU AND I AS A SUGGESTION OF THAT RUNNING THIS TYPE OF AN OPERATION. AND THE REASON WE WOULD GET THE THIRD PARTY CREATED THIS THE MECHANISM THAT CAN GO OUT AND ACQUIRE THE DEBT INSTEAD OF EACH OF US ENTITIES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE SECURITY THE DEBT AND OUR PORTION OF THE DENT OR HOW WE WILL COLLECTIVELY TIE THE DEBT.
THIS IS MECHANISM TO SECURE THE FUNDING CONTROLS THE CONSTRUCTION. PROPOSES THE BUDGETS BACK TO BOTH AGENCY. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT OR RATES OR CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE A SAY OVER FPUA SAYS.
THIS GOVERNING ENLT ONLY SPECIFICALLY IS THERE TO SECURE THE FUNDING OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
>> YOU CAN SEE EAST CENTRAL BOARD.
SEACOAST UTILITY AUTHORITY AND PEACH RIVER THEY ALL HAVE SIMILAR MAKEUPS. THE PIG THING ABOUT THIS WE WILL PUT TOGETHER SOME DRAFT IN OUR LOCAL WITH SUGGESTIONS ON HOW THIS BOARD SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT TO EACH OF THE GOVERNING BOARDS TO DECIDE HOW THAT FINAL MAKEUP IS. WE WILL BRING FORWARD EXAMPLE ON HOW WE COULD STRUCTURE THIS IN ORDER TO GET THE BEST RESULTS FOR BOTH FPUA AND THE COUNTY UTILITY.
MOVING INTO THE -- >> IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT FOR ONE SECOND. I THINK THE KEY THING TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE OF THE FPUA OPERATIONAL BOARD IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR REALLY A GROUP OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS THAT CAN GET US THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THIS PROJECT. I ANTICIPATE ONE THE PLAN THE OPERATIONAL YOU SEE THE BOARD MEET ONCE A QUARTER.
YOU WOULDN'T MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER.
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YOU NEED TO GET A GROUP TOGETHER TO HANDLE THE PROCUREMENT. HANDLE GETTING THE DEBT.HANDLE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S TYPE OF THINGS. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THIS GROUP. THE REASON WE FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE TECHNICAL EXPERTS. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT MAYBE A FINANCIAL TECHNICAL EXPERT.
THEY DO GET US THROUGH THE DESIGN, THE CONSTRUCTION AND GET US TO THE OPERATIONAL PHASE.
APPRECIATE THAT. >> SO MOVING ON WITH THE NEXT STEPS. WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR DON SENT FROM EACH OF THE BOARDS TO COME TOGETHER TO HELP US WITH ANY SORT OF -- OVERCOMING OF OBSTACLES BY WORKSHOPS AND DIFFERENT MEETINGS. WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU CONSENT ON MOVING FORWARD WITH JOINT OPERATIONAL BOARD EXAMPLES.
WE COULD DO THEM UP BY DRAFT FOR LOCAL AND THEN BRING BACK TO DISCUSS. PLANS SOME FUTURE GRANT WORKSHOPS AND DISCUSSIONS. PUT MARKETING TOGETHER AND GAIN SUPPORT. AND THEN CONTINUE TO TRY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. BEFORE WE GET ANY QUESTIONS, WE GOT ONE MORE SLIDE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER.
IT'S THE OPPORTUNITIES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. ITEMTON AND TOM BECK TO GO OVER THE FLOW.
>> I THINK I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER THAT.
>> GEORGE MANSION. THE FINAL SLIDE FOCUSES ON OPPORTUNITIES. AND WE THINK WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO AND, AGAIN IT'S DIFFERENT FOR US.
WE HAVE NOT WORKED WELL ON THE SAME SANDBOX FOR A LONG TIME.
WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS SEE HOW DO WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A WIN FOR THE UTILITIES AND A WIN FOR THE CITY? AND I THINK THIS GETS US DOWN THAT PATH. AND SO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS CITY OF FT. PIERCE THEY COULD CONTROL SOME PRETTY VALUABLE PROPERTY. WHEN I FIRST MET CONGRESSMAN AND WE'RE OVER AT FT. PIERCE. THE GREATEST OUR HIGHEST VALUED PROPERTY IN THE TREASURE COAST IS SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE AS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THERE.
DECADES AGO IT MAY ALL THE SENT IN THIS WORLD.
IT INCREASES THEIR TAX BASE WITHIN CRA.
FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY THERE'S MORE WASTEWATER CAPACITY WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP AND THERE'S MORE ECONOMIC VALUE AS A PART F THE PARTNERSHIP. THAT'S THE SAME AS -- THAT'S TRUE FOR THE UA AS WELL. THEY BENEFIT FROM INCREASED CAPACITY PER DOLLAR AND MORE EFFECTIVE WEST WATER TREATMENT.
ALSO IT MID MITIGATES THE LAGOON.
IT ALLOWS WE THINK FOR THE PROJECT OF MOVING THE PLANT TO BE RELOCATED -- IT ACCELERATES THAT PROJECT.
FOR OUR CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CREATION OF JOBS AND THE CONSTRUCTION. AGAIN REDUCE OVERALL WATER WATER COST. THE PIPES NEED TO BE REDONE SO THE FLOW CAN BE REVERSED THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO SOME OF THE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE REDONE.
THERE'S A PANEL THIS, WITH REDEVELOPED PROPERTY EXPANDED USE. NOT ONLY TO THAT APPLY AS YOU SAW PART OF THE VISION TO GO UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAY AND LOOK AT MUSEUM POINT THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE AS WELL.
IT'S ONLY A BI PRODUCT OF THE FOCUS.
HOW DO WE GET THE BEST UTILITY PROJECT FOR THE COST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT JUST HAPPENING THE THAT
CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER CLOSING REMARKING IN TERMS OF FPUA.
WE WANT TO BE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS WAY OF GETTING US THERE.
AND WE WANT TO DO THAT AND STILL BE AS FISCAL LEE SPONGES OUR O IF I WE WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
I WON'T BE PAINLESS. I THINK IT CAN WORK.
THAT'S THE CRITICAL ISSUE. GOSH, HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS? NOT ONLY GOING BACK TO ORIGINAL INTERLOCAL. BUT JUST OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IT COMES UP -- COMES UP 3-4 TIMES PER YEAR.
THE ANSWER QUESTION WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE MOVE THAT PLANT.
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I HOPE WE GOT SOME ANSWERS HERE TODAY.I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO. I GUESS WE WILL OPEN UP FOR
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
I KNOW YOU TOLD ME ONCE. CAPACITY OF THE NEW PLANT VERSES WHAT WE THE EXISTING CAPACITY.
>> OUR EXISTING CAPACITY IS 10MGH.
I AND IT'S CLOSER TO 5.6. THE NEW PLANT EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY 8MGT PLANT IT WOULD HAVE SURGE CAPABILITY TO HANDLE OUR 20 FLOW DOOR -- THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE.
WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF STORAGE. AND WE'LL HAVE SOME LARGE
>> DID YOU SAY -- RIGHT NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT INCREASE OF 2.5 DOLLAR INCREASE -- 2.5% INCREASE PORE FPUA AND 2.1 FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
>> IF IT'S 2.5 ON TOP OF THE FORMER 2.5.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE. FPUA HAS AROUND 15,000.
>> WE'RE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 9,000.
>> AND THEN SO THOSE ARE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE COUNTY. CORRECT, MA'AM.
THE ONES THAT AREN'T ARE ON SEPTIC?
>> CORRECT. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE ON
SEPTIC? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU. J IT'S TOO MY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HATS PUZZLED ME. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LAGOON.
ABSOLUTELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE THROUGH GOON.
WE ALL AS ENTITIES FPUA, CITY OF FT. PIERCE.
PROBABLY ST. LUCIE COUNTY TOO. THIS IS PRIORITY FOR US TO MOVE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OFF THE ISLAND.
I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
IF WE HAVE AN EVENT OUT WEST OF TOWN, WHERE DOES THAT UNTREATED WATER GO? DOESN'T I GO INTO FIVE MILE CREEK AND GET INTO THE LAGOON? IF YOU HAVE AN INCIDENT.
>> THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. YOU KNOW IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE TO HAVE IT GOES INTOE ESTUARY.
WE WOULD HAVE AS MUCH ON-SITE RETECHION THAT COULD COLLECT IF THERE'S THAT'S TYPE OF ISSUE. OF COURSE, WE WILL ALSO HAVE REAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE. >> YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MITIGATE IT SO BEFORE IT WENT INTO FIVE-MILE CREEK OR TEN-MILE CREEK. Ô> YES.
>> IT'S NEAR -- IT'S NEAR FIVE-MILE; RIGHT?
>> I BELIEF THAT'S THE BASIN IT WOULD END UP IN.
>> THE MAIN POINT THERE AT THE NEW PLANT THERE'S TWO DEEP INJECTION WELLS. WE'RE AT 7MGD PLUS OR MINUS AND YOU HAVE THE FLOWS OF 20 MILLION.
DOESN'T TAKE LONG BEFORE YOUR OVERFLOWING OUR HANDLE 20 MILLION GALLONS. WE WILL MOVE THE GENERATORS FROM THIS LOCATION TO THAT LOCATION.
WE WILL HAVE BACK UP AND OVERSIZED PUMPS FOR DEEPING JEBBINGION WELLS. EVERYTHING WILL BE VERY HEAVY DUTY AND REDUNDANT TO TRY TO AVOID THAT AT ALL COST.
>> I KNOW THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM ARE UP-TO-DATE WHY THIS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND THE ALL THINGS JUST SAID MAKE IT A REALLY GOOD SELL. BUT I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE HARD SALE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. OUR CUSTOMER DON'T GO ABOUT THEIR DAILY WORK WORRYING ABOUT THE LAGOON.
MAYBE WE WOULD LIKE THAT. BUT THEY DON'T DO IT.
THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE DRIVING FORCES.
ENVIRONMENTALLY LOANS P TO WE ALSO KNOW THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH COMBINED WITH LAND OWNER NEXT DOOR IS A
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REALLY, REALLY VALUABLE PIECE OF PROMPT THAT CAN BE REALLY REDEVELOPED. IN THIS ROOM WE KNOW THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT OUR CUSTOMERS WILL NOT BE IN TUNE WITH US AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE. THEY HAVE TO BE CONVINCED THIS IS YOU KNOW AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO FOR THEIR FUTURE AND FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTY. THAT'S PART OF THE PAINFUL PART. I DON'T MAIN TO RAIN ON THE PARADE. THAT'S A HARD SELL FOR FOR THE THREE ENTITIES BECAUSE AS ENTITIES THIS ISN'T JUST -- THIS ISN'T BENEFITTING THE FPUA.WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT BENEFITS OUR CUSTOMERS.
THE COUNTY HAS TO DO THE SAME. IF THIS COMBINED EFFORT IS SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS BOTH OF OUR CUSTOMERS, IF IT DOES, THAT'S -- THAT WOULD BE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE THING TO DO.
TELLING THEM THEY HAVE RATE INCREASES TO PAY FOR THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THEY WILL BE DELIGHTED ABOUT.
I'M JUST BEING REALISTIC. I THINK THE GOVERNANCE ISSUE.
I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO DWELL ON IT.
BUT WHAT I HEARD IS GOING TO BE AN OPERATIONAL BOARD TO SECURE FUNDING UNDER -- AND DIRECT THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN IT WOULD BE AN OPERATIONAL BOARD. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR INDIVIDUAL OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW.
>> I THINK -- WELL WHEN YOU SAY OPERATIONAL BOARD.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OCCASION LEVEL WE HAVE TO MEET TO TALK ABOUT BUDGETS AND WHAT THEY NEED FOR OPERATONAL BUDGETS OF THE YEAR NEXT YEAR AND WHATEVER.
THAT COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY AND FPUA.
AND THAT WILL BE A LINE ANY TIME THE BUDGET THAT YOU WILL SEE EVERY YEAR FOR APPROVAL. I THINK THAT'S THE THING WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT. >> THE INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES WITH STILL HAVE THEIR OWN AND OWN OPERATING -- FOR OPERATING THE
SYSTEMS BEYOND THE PLANT. >> LIKE AT THE PLANT THE
ELECTRIC POWER PLANT. >> VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, YES.
WHERE THE OPERATIONAL ENTITY WOULD EFFECTIVELY SUBOUT THE OPERATION OF THE PLANT, VERY SIMILAR TO THE POWER PLANT, AND IT WOULD BE SOME COMBINATION OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT FPUA HAS AND THE EMPLOYEE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS AND IT WORK HUANG -- WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR BUDGETS LINE UP AND WE ARABLE TO OPERATE AS EFFICIENTLY AS ANYONE ELSE COULD. WE'RE CONFIDENT WE CAN DO THAT.
SEATS AT THE TABLE SO TO SPEAK. WE HAVE 70% INTEREST IN THIS.
RIGHT? LET'S SAY THERE'S A BOARD OF GOVERNANCE. FOUR PEOPLES VERSES 3 AND WE #
TOTAL. >> THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.
THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MONUMENTAL THING TO OVERCOME.
WHEN YOU GET THE TECHNICAL BOARDS TOGETHER AND MR. GILDEN HAD TO EXPLAIN THIS TO US. WHEN YOU GET THE TECHNICAL EXPERTS TOGETHER WHAT MAKES ESSENTIAL FOR ONE MAKES SENSE FOR ANOTHER. NO MATTER WHO IS FUNDING THE MAJORITY OF IT. BUT YEAH THAT ISSUE AS FAR AS VOTING HOW THE VOTES ARE HANDLED SOMETHING OF THAT EFFECT. WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT
IN THE CREATION OF THE ENLT. >> WHAT DO WE DO FMPA.
>> THEY JUST OWN THE PLANT AND THEY PAY US TO OPERATE IT.
>> IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. I WOULD BE 60L.
I'VE BEEN QUIET FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW I HAVE A NEGATIVE INTEREST.
FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO HAVE REAL JOINT SESSION SO WE KNOW WE HAVE A STAKE IN IT. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A STAKE.
SAYING THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE DOWN THE ROAD, IT MUST HAPPEN. ADVERTISE A HOT MEAL.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S TOO MUCH TO COVER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE
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NOW. DO WE HAVE INDEPENDENT GROUPS EYOU HAVE THREE INDEPENDENT FOR THE COUNTY?WASTE FACILITIES? >> MAINLAND, YES, SIR.
>> AND THE COOL PA -- COMPARESO 9 MILLION.
>> EACH CAPACITY FOR YOUR SEPARATE THREE FACILITIES.
ON THE MAINLAND OUR THREE FACILITIES ARE JUST UNDER HALF MILLION PER DAY CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
AS IT WAS SAID WHEN WE ENTERED THE PROCESS, IS CURRENTLY 93% OF THE FLOW GOING INTO THE PLANT WOULD BE FPUA'S.
WE LOOKED IF WE WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED, WE'RE AT THE POINT OF DEVELOPING GOING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
WE TOOK THE DOLLAR WE WOULD INVEST AND THE PLANT WE WOULD BE DOING AT DAY LOR DAIRY AND USE THAT NUMBER TO DO TO PUT TOWARD THIS PROJECT INSTEAD OF THAT.
THAT WAY WE ARE BASICALLY PAYING FOR FUTURE CAPACITY.
WE WOULDN'T SEND 2.4 MILLION OF FLOW.
THERE'S SOME CAPACITY IN THIS AMG PLANT OUT OF THE GAME.
COUNTY WOULD PAY FOR A PERCENTAGE OF USE WE'RE GOT USING GOING INTO THE PROCESS. BUT MORE OF FUTURES DEAL IN THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR LONG-TERM VERSE HAVING TWO DIFFERENT THERE'S NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW THAN TEN OR 15 YEARS AGO WHEN WE'RE ALREADY SOME OTHER DIRECTION.
IT WOULD HAVE IMPACT TO CUSTOMER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY INDEPENDENT COMPANIES?
>> OTHER THAN MUNICIPALITIES? >> WASTE.
>> THERE ARE CONTRACTORS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
DO WE HAVE IN, IN THIS COUNTY. ST. LUCIE COUNTY DID.
>> WE OUR OPERATIONAL RAN THROUGH THE PARTY CONTRACTOR.
AFTER WE DID ANALYSIS WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD CAN IT.
THAT TAKES PLACE IN MARCH. AS OF MARCH WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN
EMPLOYEE RUN OUR UTILITIES. >> ANYTIME WE GOT THE RULES ENVIRONMENTAL GREWS COME OUT. YOU HAVE TO FACE REALITY.
I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET POLITICAL WITH THE CERTAINUPS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT KIND OF SMOOTHNESS GOING ON.
MY LAST CONCERN DO WE HAVE ANY BLINDFOLD SITUATIONS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT? WE GOT ONE OF THREE PARTNERS.
SAY THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE HERE BECAUSE THEY GO TO OTHER ENTITIES. WE HAVE LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS TO DO. YOU KNOW.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO STRUCTURE THE AGREEMENT. USE SANDBOX ANALOGY.
WE WILL NOT BE HERE FOREVER. IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY GOOD, VERY STRONG AND VERY FAIR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO PADDLE THIS. WHEN I STEPPED DOWN OFF OF THAT POSITION. AND MR. LANDRY DOES A GOOD JOB OF APPOINTMENTING OUR REPLACEMENT.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THERE.
FOR THE FPUA THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1972, BEFORE THAT WE HAD SERVICES PROVIDED NOT UNDER FPUA.
OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE INVESTED A GREAT DEAL IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PEOPLE THAT CAME UP WITH THE FINANCIAL 70/30. DID THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COMPARISON OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF WITH THE
SYSTEMS AND REQUIREMENTS? >> THERE WERE A FEW FACTORS THAT WENT INTO THAT. MR. LANDRY BROUGHT UP COMPARISON OF MONEY THEY WOULD HAVE SPENT.
THAT'S ONE FACT R. WE ALSO LOOKED AT JUST WHAT
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MADE SENSE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE AS FAR AS YOU KNOW HOW BUILT OUT OUR SERVICE TERRITORY IS COMPARED THERE'S.AND SUCH AND THIS IS JIGS THE INITIAL COST OF THE PLANT WAS 70/30. WITH O&M COST COME IN WE HAVE TO MOST LIKELY AND AGAIN THIS WILL BE PART OF INTERLOCAL.
WE HAVE MODELS TO MODEL AFTER. MOST OF THE O&M COST WOULD BE BROKEN UP ON PERCENTAGE MORE EQUIVALENT TO THE FLOWS.
THE ONE THAT IS USING THE PLANT WILL PAY FOR MORE.
YOU PAY FOR THE USAGE OF THE PLANT.
WITH HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE BEYOND THE PLANT.
SO DOES THE COUNTY. DOES THAT GET TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. ALL OF THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT?
>> I WILL HAVE TO. I KNOW THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OFFSET FOR THE AMOUNT OF FPUA HAS IN OR THE MONEY THAT HAS TO GO IN. MR. HAMILTON HAD MENTIONED THE TRANSMISSION COMPONENT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BECOME IMPORTANT AS WELL. THERE'S OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
MASTER LIFT STATION. OF COURSE THERE WOULDN'T BE A COST OFF SET FROM THAT. FROM THERE THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE. IT WOULD CARRY THAT FLOW DOWN TO THE NEW PLANT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF A CONTRIBUTION TO THE O&M OF THOSE FACILITIES ALL RIGHT IN THE GROUND. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
>> IT'S THE BEST DANCE I HAVE. >> IT WAS A GOOD DANCE.
>> DID YOU -- DID YOU CONSIDER OTHER ORGANIZATIONAL ASPECTS LIKE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO GOVERNANCE.
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT? DID YOU CONSIDER OTHER WAYS TO
THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE NOW.
IF WE DO LONG-TERM INTERLOCAL IF PART OF THE LONG-TERM INTERLOCAL WAS THE FPUA HAVING TO MOVE THE PLANT OFF THE ISLAND. THIS WOULD ALL BE BASICALLY ON FPUA. WE WOULD BOTH BE PAYING OUR RATES. WHEN WE LOOKED ALTERNATE THE MODEL DIDN'T SEEMING THROUGH IT OUT WITH WORK OUT THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT THIS PARTNERSHIP. BASICALLY WE LOOK AT LONG-TERM DOWN THE ROAD. RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FLOWS AND THE COST AND EVERYTHING.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTY PAYING FOR MORE THAN WHAT THEY WILL.
LOOKS LIKE UA COMING FOR MORE ON WHAT THEY NEED TO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
THAT'S WHAT WILL REQUIRED THE WHOLE CUSTOMER BASE HAS GOT TO
BE ABLE TO SEE THE FUTURE TOO. >> THIS PLANT IS JUST THE PLANT. ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUTSIDE THE PLANT THERE'S ALL OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND CUSTOMERS. THIS PLAN WON'T BE PAYING FOR ANYTHING OF THE COUNTIES UP NORTH SORT OF THING OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE STILL RUN OUR OWN UTILITY.
WE'RE JUST BOLSTERING FLOWS TO THE PLANT.
THEY ARE PROCESSING THE FLOW AND TURNED IT INTO RECLAIMED WATER. THAT'S ALL THE PLANT THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS. IT'S A STRUCTUE TO RECEIVE FLOWS FROM TWO ENTITIES. TWO ENTITIES ARE STILL INDEPENDENT. STIT OPERATIONS BUSINESSING SO THIS IT'S RECEIVING THE FLOWS AND MANAGING THE FLOWS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND PAYING FOR THE DEBT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S ALL THAT IT IS. WE WILL RUN UTILITY AND YOU WILL RUN YOURS. AND EVERYTHING WILL BE HOPEFULLY WORK OUT WELL. WHAT I WOULD WONDER TOO.
IF YOU HAVE A TECHNICAL OPERATIONAL BOARD I'M SURE YOU'RE THINKING ENGINEERING. I'M THINKING ALSO TECHNICAL BEING FINANCE SOMEONE THAT HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND ALSO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THIS NEW AND THIS IS NOVEL. NOT DRASTIC BUT KIND OF A REAL FUTURISTIC KIND OF IDEA. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LEGAL REPRESENTATION ALSO. AND SO I'M WONDERING HAVE YOU -- HAVE YOU CONSULTED WITH OTHER LEAGUE A OR HAS COUNTY
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CONSULTED WITH -- WE WILL HAVE JOINT OPERATION OR ANY PART OFTHE OPERATION. >> SO FAR WE JUST WANT TO PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN. WE REALIZE OF COURSE THE LEGAL WILL BE INVOLVED. WE WANT TO PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER. WITHOUT LEGAL.
THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE. I'M SURE THEY WILL HAVE COMMENTS AND ADDITIONS. WE WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER THE
PLAN. >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THEY WILL TELL YOU THE PROBLEM. I REMEMBER THE CHERET AND THE DIRECTION. WE WERE TOLD THE CHERET FORGET ABOUT ANY KIND OF ZONING OR FORGET ABOUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. JUST DECIDE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE ON THIS COMBINED PIECE OF PROPERTY.
PEOPLE DID THAT AND HAD A GREAT VISION.
PRACTICALITY THERE IS ZONING AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS THERE. PRACTICALITY CAN INTERFERE WITH
DREAMS. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
I DO. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. I KNOW I'VE HEARD A VARIATION OF THIS SEVERAL TIMES NOW. YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT A LONG, LONG TIME. I APPRECIATE ALL THE COUNTY'S WORK FROM MR. TIPTON ON DOWN. AND OUR OWN STAFF'S WORK TOO.
I KNOW IT'S IT'S A TOUGH THING TO TAKE ON.
MR. TIPTON IS RIGHT. APPARENTLY THERE'S HISTORY THERE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE MY TIME THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SPELL THAT THIS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
BUT I THINK IT'S -- I PER APPRECIATE YOU TRYING.
>> WE WILL SUCCEED. >> ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT THIS IS A TOUGH SALE FROM FPUA STANDPOINT.
AND ONCE YOU ARE COMMITTED TO PLAN.
YOU CAN'T SAY AFTER FIRST 21/2 PERCENT INCREASE.
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT NEXT YEAR.
YOU REALLY COMMITTED YOURSELF TO SERIES OF --
>> YOU KNOW ME WELL. >> I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT TAKING THE RATE INCREASES TO THE CITY.
WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY ACCEPT THE PLAN AND WE HAVE THE RATE INCREASES IN PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD.
OTHERWISE WE WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL.
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE BUY-IN. IT'S NOT EASY.
EVEN THOUGH THE LURE OF THAT DEVELOPING THAT LAND IS VERY, VERY STRONG AND THE BENEFIT OF MOVING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS REALLY, REALLY NOBLE AND NECESSARY GOAL.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A TOUGH SALE.
>> I COMPARE THIS TO HALF CENT SALES TAX.
THAT WAS UPHILL BATTLE WHEN THE COUNTY FOLK GOT THAT APPROVED AND ALSO THROUGH THE CITY. I REMEMBER THEM MAKING A PITCH ON THAT. LOOK WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT.
RIGHT. WE'RE REBUILDING ROADS.
WE'RE REBUILDING ROADS WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO DO.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE MASSIVE ECONOMIC ENGINE CREATING JOB. THAT'S MONEY THAT CAN REBUILD THE ROADS AS WELL. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE PAYING FOR THIS REALLY GOING TO SEE.
AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS OR MARKETING. GET SOME GOOD MARKETING PEOPLE TO BRING THOSE FACTS TO LIGHT TO THE PEOPLE.
>> GOOD IDEA. THE FARM IN TALLAHASSEE THAT DID THE CONCEPTUAL MARKETING FOR THE SURTAX WAS -- DID SOME FOCUS GROUPS AND WHAT WOULD CONVINCE PEOPLE.
>> UH-HUH. >> WE W -- THESE NUMBER WE PRESENTED ARE CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS.
THE RATE INCREASES ARE CONSERVATIVE RATE INCREASE.
DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT GRANTS OR ONCE WE GET THE CREATION OF THE ENTITY IT'S ABILITY TO SECURE FINANCING AND SECURE THE MOST COMPETITIVE FINANCING.
ALL THE NUMBERS ARE AT CONSERVATIVE LEVEL.
WE HOPE THAT WE CAN COME BACK WITH WINS AND SAY WE'VE ACHIEVED THIS, THIS AND THIS AND ARE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME OF THESE IMPACTS OR AT LEAST NOT COME BACK WHERE YOU ASK FOR
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MORE. WE'RE TRYING TO LOOKCONSERVATIVE. >> REDUCING RATES FOR EVERYTHING. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> HAS THIS BEEN PRESENTED TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER. THIS WAS THE FIRST BOARD
MEETING. >> NOT WITHOUT TRYING.
>> WE DID HAVE TWO ATTEMPTS AT JOINT MEETINGS AND COVID KIND OF JUST KNOCKED US OUT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO INDIVIDUAL MEETING THINKING IT WOULD BE EASIER.
THIS IS ON OUR PLAN TO PRESENT IN MARCH.
WE HOPE FOR JOINT MEETING IN APRIL.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE MEETING IS IN MARCH.
>> I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE 16TH. YOUR NORMAL INFORMAL MEETING.
>> WE'RE ON FOR MARCH 8TH CONFERENCE AGENDA FOR THE CITY.
>> TWO OTHER POINTS TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS.
FROM A LEAGUE A PERSPECTIVE. THE CONCEPT CAME OUT OF OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THROUGH A CONSULTANT THAT HE HAS. A GUY BY THE NAME OF PHIL GILDEN. THERE'S BEEN SOME -- AT LEAST FROM THE COUNTY SIDE SIGNIFICANT LEGAL REVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE TALK ABOUT RATES TO ADD TO WHAT BEAU AND GEORGE SHARED.
THESE ARE CONSERVATIVE ITEMS BEFORE YOU IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS. THERE WOULD NORMALLY BE RATE INCREASE ANYWAY. YOU HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU NEED TO PUT SOME MONEY TOWARDS THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL NET GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF THE
COST IF YOU DO NOTHING. >> THIS WOULD BE ON TOP OF
NORMAL RATE INCREASE; RIGHT? >> PROBABLY.
>> RATE INCREASES ANYWAY. JUST REMEMBER THAT.
>> NOTHING STAYS FLAT. >> RIGHT.
I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. I HAVE A MEETING.
SO I HAVE TO RUN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KEEP ASKING MYSELF THE QUESTION, I'M SURE YOU ASKED THE QUESTION AS WELL.
IF NOT NOW, WHEN? WHEN ARE CONDITIONS GOING TO BE BETTER TO MOVE THIS PLANT THAN NOW? IT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHEAPER. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE INTEREST RATES CAN GET A WHOLE LOT LOWER.
AND THAT BECOMES THE QUESTION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND THIS FIRST TIME WE'VE COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO SHOW YOU AND I'M THINKING THIS IS -- IT'S EITHER WE GO AHEAD AND DO IT OR GOD FORBID WE STOP
TALKING ABOUT. >> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE ANOTHER
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RATE INCREASES.
THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY. OBVIOUSLY WAS THINKING WHERE COULD WE GAIN THIS. HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING OVERALL, 21/2 PERCENT EQUALS WHAT EVERY YEAR? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GET TO AT THE OWNED OF THE FIVE YEARS?
>> I THINK THAT'S NINE MILLION ESCROW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK 4.7 MILLION WOULD BE THE OVERALL INCREASE IN ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSE. 1.3 FOR THE COUNTY.
>> OKAY. AS FAR AS GRANT MONEY GOES, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE A HANDFUL IN YOUR HEAD OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE
OUT THERE. >> WE DID RESEARCH ON THAT.
SPEAKING OF ACRONYMSMENT. SOME OF THEM HAVE 7 LETTERS.
INDIAN RIVER LAGOON NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM.
COST SHARE PROGRAMS. FDEP COASTAL PROTECTION PARTNERSHIP INITIATIVE; AND THOSE ARE JUST THREE THAT CAME UP FROM JUST A QUICK SEARCH. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER. TOTALLY DIFFERENT REALM AWAY FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PART. THERE'S A LOT OF MOMENTUM WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL BRANCH RIGHT NOW AS THE BOARD KNOWS.
WE HAVE SECURED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GRANT MONEY FOR OUT SEWER LINING AND TO START LOW PURSUER PROGRAM.
AND WE HAVE MORE OF THOSE IN THE WORKS AS WELL.
I WOULD FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL ON SOME LEVEL AT GETTING GRANTS TO HELP US WITH
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THIS. IT'S A SIMPLE SCORING SYSTEM.BY US BEING IN PARTNERSHIP. THAT'S MORE POINTS.
IT'S VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD GRANT PERSON. A CONSULTANT OF OUR IN ST.
LUCIE COUNTY DOES AS WELL. I THINK WHEN WE COMBINE OUR RESOURCES AND PUT SOME EFFORT TOGETHER WE CAN MOST LIKELY DO
PRETTY WELL THERE, I THINK. >> ALSO IN ADDITION TO ST. JOHN'S SOUTH FLORIDA. BECAUSE SAINT JOHN INDIAN RIVER
COUNTY AND NORTH. >> I GOT ONE FINAL.
ALL THE GOOD YOU DO TO BUILD THE PLAN.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE NO EYESORES.
>> THERE'S FUNDING IN THE 156 MILLION TO DE-MOLLISH THE OTHER
PLANT. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY DIFFERENT TO US?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TODAY OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT WE DID SIGN THE FLEETWOOD ACRES LAND AGREEMENT WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING. WE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WE NEED TO STRAIGHTEN OUT WITH DEO.
THAT GRANT IS SIGNED. WE WILL START WORKING ON IT
>> ONE THING TO SAY BACK TO THE DIRECTOR, TRY HARD TO SWEET TALK ALL OF THE OTHER GROUPS SO WE CAN REALLY HAVE A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION AS THE JOINT PARTNER IN THIS MATTER.
>> WE CERTAINLY WILL. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE MAYOR DID DISCUSS THE RATE INCREASES. AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE PUBLIC RELATIONS PLAN HERE TO MAKE THIS WORK.
AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE HALF CURRENT SALES TAX.
THE FACT THAT FIRST TIME AROUND IT DIDN'T WORK.
BUT THEN THEY GOT SERIOUS ABOUT THE PR AND DID WORK THE SECOND TIME AROUND. THERE'S PROBABLY LESSONS TO BE LEARNED THERE. THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE AS WELL. OKAY.
>> IF
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