[a. Email from Susie DeVito, Construction Superintendent for Bent Creek, thanking Susan Keller, Permit Specialist, Building Department for her outstanding customer service.]

CLERK OFFICE. WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM SUSIE DEVITO.

CONSTRUCTION SUPERINTENDENT FOR BENT CREEK THANKING FOR

[b. Voice message from Tony Schauer with Treasure Coast Auto Auction complimenting the integrity of Code Enforcement Officer Heather Debevec who found their lost dealer tag and returned it. ]

OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE RECEIVED A VOICE MESSAGE FROM TONY SCHAUER COMPLIMENTING THE INTEGRITY OF CODE ENFORCEMENT

[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

OFFICER HEATHER DEBEVEC WHO FOUND THEIR LOST DEALER TAG AND RETURNED IT. THEN WE MOVE ON COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC AGENDA

ITEMS. >> YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU'LL HAVE A WARNING LIGHT AND WE WELCOME YOU. YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THREE ITEMS, 11A, B AND C. WELCOME.

>>> I'M DR. JULIE KIDHAMS. SPEARHEADING THE FORMATION OF A NONPROFIT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE BUT THE ANIMALS THAT YOU REPRESENT. I KNOW THE HEARTBREAK OF DOING RIGHT THING. I WAS PART OF TRYING TO KEEP THE HUMANE SOCIETY AFLOAT. IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE. I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A PERSON TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE. FOR BACKGROUND, I'M THE FOUNDER AND OPERATION OF OUTREACH SERVICES. WITH OVER 12,000 SURGERIES DONE IN FOUR YEARS, MY JOB IS TRULY A LABOR OF LOVE. THE LABOR HAS CREATED AN INCREDIBLE NETWORK OF EACH IN OUR COMMUNITY TO OUR OPERATION SOS. AND WE BRING THAT COMMUNITY TO THE SHELTER. THE ORGANIZATION IS IN THE POSITION

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TO HONOR THE SHELTER AND MAKE IT A FACILITY NOT ONLY SERVICING THE COMMUNITY BUT A SPACE USES AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR PROPOSAL.

>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THAT'S ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

SIGNED UP, MS. COX. >>> NEXT WE HAVE ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS OF THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

>> MADAM MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER A LETTER FROM THIS ELECTED BODY, THE CITY COMMISSION REQUESTING THAT SUBSTANTIVE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND MEASURE BE IMPLEMNTED ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO IF WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AGENDA, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>>> YES, SIR. >> YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR A MOTION.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AT 13D

OR 13A? >> 13D WOULD BE FINE.

>> OKAY. SO I'M READY FOR A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO SET THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.

>>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. C

JOHNSON >> YES, MA'AM J. JOHNSON.

[a. Presentation by Jonathan Paul, AICP, Principal of NUE Urban Concepts regarding the development of a Mobility Plan and establishing innovative funding sources such as Mobility Fees and Tax Financing districts. ]

PERONIA AND HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>>> NEW URBAN CONCEPTS AND MOBILITY FEES AND TAX FINANCING

DISTRICTS. >>> MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WE DISCUSSED LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE MEANS REVENUE GENERATION TO SUSTAIN OUR VERY, VERY MUCH NEEDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY, THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE PRESENTED, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOT ONLY FUND OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUT ALSO BE MORE INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE IN THE WAYS THAT WE TRANSPORT AND PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR PEOPLE. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADIEU I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JONATHAN FROM IS NUE OR NUE, HE'S GOT A PRESENTATION PLAN ON

OUR MOBILITY PLAN FOR. >>> WELCOME.

>> I'LL SET THE PRESENTATION UP HERE. WILL I BE ABLE TO

CLICK IT WITH THIS? >> SURE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, MR. MANAGER. AGAIN, MY NAME IS JONATHAN PALM, I'M THE PRINCIPAL OF NEW URBAN CONCEPTS. LET ME JUST GET THE HANDSEL OF THIS HERE. GO TO THE KEYBOA ESSENTI I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS NOW. I HAVE A MASTERS IN PLANNING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND MASTERS IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

NOT ONLY DO I HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO DEVELOP INNOVATIVE WAYS TO FUND MOBILITY. I ALSO SPENT TEN YEARS AS AN IMPACT FEE AND MOBILITY FEE ADMINISTRATOR BOTH ALACHUA COUNTY AND SARASOTA COUNTY. I'VE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I'M CONTINUING TO DO SO, INCLUDING YOUR NEIGHBOR JUST TO THE SOUTH WHO ESSENTIALLY HAS ASKED ME TO PREPARE A SCOPE OF SERVICE FOR THEM AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD RATHER QUICKLY TO DEVELOP A MOBILITY PLAN AND MOBILITY FEE AND THAT WOULD BE THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SINCE MOBILITY PLAN IS REALLY A VISION OF HOW YOU WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND IN YOUR COMMUNITY. WHETHER THEY WALK, BIKE, OR USE TRANSIT, IT IS REALLY WHAT YOUR VISION LAYS OUT. AND THEN AS PART OF THAT TO FUND THE PROJECTS TO HELP PUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE, IT IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS A MOBILITY FEE.

AND A MOBILITY FEE IS BASICALLY THE NEXT VERSION OF THE ROAMING

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IMPACT FEE, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS TODAY AND ALSO WHAT THE COUNTY CHARGES WITHIN YOUR CITY. THE INTENT OF A MOBILITY FEE IS TO REPLACE IMPACT FEES, YOUR CONCERN ISN'T NECESSARILY WIDENING ROADS BUT SOME OTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION. IT IS KNOWN WHAT IS TRANSPORTATION CURRENCY AND TO SHARE. THEY ARE PAID BY NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT WHICH GENERATES AN ADDITIONAL IMPACT. SO THOSE WOULD CONTINUE TO OCCUR IF THE CITY WOULD ELECT TO DO A MOBILITY FEE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. REALLY THE LEGISLATURE PUT THIS IN PLACE, STARTING ALMOST BACK IN 2005 AND IT REALLY SORT OF PICKED UP STEAM DURING THE GREAT RECESSION AND ALACHUA COUNTIES AND PASCO COUNTY WERE THE FIRST TO ADOPT THEIRS. NOW THE COMMUNITY FINDS THEMSELVES WHERE YOU ARE TODAY, WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS BUT THOSE NEEDS AREN'T NECESSARILY ADDING ROAD CAPACITY. THOSE NEEDS ARE FINDING OTHER WAYS TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND. AND WHAT THE STATE FOUND AND COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE FOUND. IF YOU JUST COUNT CARS AND YOU REGULATE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO WIDEN ROADS, YOU'LL NEVER CATCH UP. THERE'S NO COMMUNITY IN THIS STATE AND NO COMMUNITY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS EVER BUILT ITS WAY OUT OF CONGESTION, IT HAS REALLY HAD TO FIND A DIFFERENT MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION TO MOVE AROUND. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MOVING PEOPLE. THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS THAT YOU, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MYSELF, CAN WALK, BIKE, RIDE THE SCOOTERS, RIDE THE TRANSIT, GOLF CART, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE WAY TO MOVE A CAR, THAT'S TO DRIVE IT. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPROACH. WHEREAS ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. A MOBILITY FEE CAN FUND SIDEWALKS, PATHS, TRAILS, FUTURE TRAIN STATION. THERE' A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES THAT COULD FUND OR OFFSET THE COSTS OF YOUR SCOOTER PROGRAM OR REALLY GOLF CARTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY. IT IS LOOKING MUCH MORE BROADLY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET AROUND.

THE CITY WOULD NOT BE FIRST. ACTUALLY ALACHUA COUNTY WAS THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 2009 AND 2010. AN EVALUATION OF WHERE THEY ARE TEN YEARS LATER. A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE HAVE ESSENTIALLY MOVED FORWARD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WHY IS THAT SO? BECAUSE MOST COMMUNITIES FIND THEMSEVES IN A POSITION OF NOT BEING ABLE TO WIDEN ROAD. EITHER THE COST IS PROHIBITIVE OR THE IMPACT TO NEIGHBORHOODS OR BUSINESSES.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU WERE TO WIDEN U.S. 1 OUT HERE WHAT TYPE OF DAMAGE THAT WOULD DO TO YOUR COMMUNITY OR ONE OF THE ROADS THAT GO THROUGH SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU TRY TO WIDEN THOSE, IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND MOST URBANIZED AREAS ARE REALIZING THAT ISN'T WHAT WE WANT IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO THERE ARE NUMBER OF STEPS TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOBILITY PLAN AND A MOBILITY FEE AND REALLY THE FIRST FOUR ARE TO ESTABLISH THE INTENT IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I THINK YOUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A NUMBER OF POLICIES IN PLACE THAT WILL SUPPORT A MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY DEVELOPING A PLAN AND IDENTIFYING IMPROVEMENTS FOR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO WALK, TO GET PEOPLE TO BIKE, AND TO GET PEOPLE TO USE ANOTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION. AND JUST TO THE SOUTH OF YOU IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, WE STARTED THIS EXERCISE ROUGHLY IN 2016, AND IN 2019, THEY MOVED FORWARD WITH A PLAN AND A FEE. THAT FEE REPLACED BOTH THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE AND PALM BEACH COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE AND GAVE THE CITY THE FULL COST OF WHAT DEVELOPERS WERE ACTUALLY PAYING AND THAT WENT TO THE CITY ITSELF AND THE CITY HELPED FUND ITS IMPROVEMENTS. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS ABOUT PALM BEACH GARDENS IS IN SOME RESPECTS, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY ARE LARGER THAN FORT PIERCE. THEY HAVE A RAILROAD RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH THEIR CITY AND THEY HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE STATION. AND AS

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PART OF THEIR OVERALL MOBILITY PLAN, THE ENTIRE PLAN WAS PREDICATED ON HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO A FUTURE RAIL STATION.

SO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HERE? A RAILROAD THAT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GOING TO PH GOING UP TO ORLANDO. YOU ALREADY HAVE A PARKING GARAGE, YOU HAVE SORT OF THE PIECES IN PLACE, WHAT YOU'RE MISSING THOUGH IS HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE, SHOULD THERE BE A RAIL STATION TO IT? AND A ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ISN'T REALLY THE PRIMARY WAY TO FUND PEOPLE GETTING TO A FUTURE RAIL STATION, A MOBILITY FEE IS. AND SO A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE USED THIS AS A TOOL TO DO JUST THAT. THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, WHICH I JUST WRAPPED UP THERE. PLANNING FEE. THEY BASICALLY PUT TWO YEARS AGO WE PUT A DOT ON THERE, WE SHOWED A LITTLE LINE GOING DOWN TO DAYTONA AND GOING UP TO JACKSONVILLE. THE CITY MOVED FORWARD AND THEY ADOPTED THEIR PLAN AND THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, I BELIEVE HERE YOU HAVE AN MPO, THEY CALL A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION THERE. THEY ESSENTIALLY LATCHED ON TO THAT IDEA AND THEY INCLUDED RAIL SERVICE BETWEEN DOWNTOWN ST. AUGUSTINE AND DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE. AND THEIR PLAN IS TO START THAT SERVICE IN 2025.

PART OF THAT IS PREDICATED ON THE FACT THAT THEY ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED AND THEY DID PLANNING, AGAIN, HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO AND FROM THAT FUTURE RAIL STATION. I'M NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY SAY A BRIGHT LINE OR ALL OF FLORIDA IS GOING TO AGREE TO PUT A STATION HERE. ONE STEP TO MOVE IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS TO ACTUALLY START PLANNING FOR IT. NEXT VIED HERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED. ACCEPTED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND INTEGRATED INTO THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TEY HAVE DEVELOPED A MOBILITY FEE BASED ON THAT. THEY ARE PROPOSING A COUPLE OF UNIQUE IDEAS. ONE IS RAIL. TWO IS TAKING OUT EXISTING LANES AND PROVIDING DEDICATED LANES FOR GOLF CARTS, AUTONOMOUS SHUTTLES, TROLLEYS AND ELECTRIC BIKES AND SCOOTERS, THEY ARE LOOKING AT WATER TAXI SERVICE, IN LONGER TERM BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FLOODING AND CLIMATE CHANGE. POTENTIALLY AN AERIAL TRAM CONNECTING TO THE DOWNTOWN ITSELF, ENVISIONING A POSSIBLE FUTURE WHERE ROADS MAY BE REPURPOSED NOT BY CHOICE BUT BY NECESSITY. AND REALLY HOW DO YOU STILL GET PEOPLE AROUND WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

>>> NEXT SLIDE HERE. LONGER TERM WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR RE-IMAGINING YOUR ROADWAYS.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW. IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WEEK. IT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM DIFFERENT THAN JUST MOVING CARS. IT HAS TAKEN US ALMOST 80 YEARS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW TO GET TO WORLD WAR II. IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GO BACK TO PROMOTE OTHER MODES. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXAMPLE, IT IS INCORPORATED INTO PALM BEACH GARDENS MOBILITY PLAN AND IT SORT OF LAYS OUT A FUTURE VISION FOR MILITARY TRAIL. THE FIRST PART IS TO ADD IN BIKE LANES. MORE VISIBILITY USING COLOR PAVEMENT AND ADDING A TRAIL. THE NEXT STEP WOULD ACTUALLY BE TO NARROW THE LANES FOR CARS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ACTUALLY ALLOW GOLF CARTS AND OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, SCOOTERS AND BIKES TO USE THAT. LONGER TERM VISION IS TO ACTUALLY TAKE AN ENTIRE LANE BECAUSE IT IS A DIRECT

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CONNECTION BETWEEN JUPITER AND THE CITY AND THE FUTURE RAIL STATION AND USE THAT LANE TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH AUTONOMOUS TRANSIT VEHICLES, TROLLEYS, SHUTTLES IN ADDITION TO ELECTRIC BIKES, SCOOTER, NEW TECHNOLOGY MAY MOVE QUICKLY FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITHOUT NECESSARILY DRIVING A CAR. NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES YOU ALREADY HAVE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOBILITY OPTIONS OUT THERE. WHAT'S COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS MICRO MOBILITY. THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO THIS, THEY DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO RIDE.

THEY ARE EITHER RIDING ON YOUR SIDEWALKS OR RIDING IN YOUR STREET. NEITHER OF THEM ARE REALLY SAFE AND SO REALLY A MOBILITY PLAN IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE.

NEXT SLIDE. >>> IN ADDITION, ELECTRIC BICYCLES REALLY ARE AN OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY GIVEN FLORIDA'S CLIMATE TO MOVE QUICKLY THREE UPWARDS TO FIVE MILES. YOU THINK ABOUT THE CORE PART OF YOUR CITY, IT IS A 2 TO 3 MILE RADIUS OUT THERE. IF YOU HAD A SAFE NETWORK, YOU WOULD GET AROUND RELATIVELY EASILY BY AN ELECTRIC BIKE AND SCOOTER AS YOU WOULD A CAR. YOU NEED A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHARED MOBILITY, UBERS, LYFTS, BICYCLE SHARE IN THE FUTURE.

ALL OF THESE ARE INCORPORATED INTO MOBILITY PLANS. NEXT SLIDE. ONE THING I'M NOT QUITE SURE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE EMBRACING NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND GOLF CARTS. THEY TRAVEL ABOUT 15 MILES AN HOUR. FOUR TO FIVE FOOT WIDE FOOTPRINT AND THEY CAN FIT INTO A BIKE LANE AND THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND AT A RELATIVELY SLOW SPEED. A SAFER SPEED AND IF YOU'RE ROADWAY SYSTEM IS SET UP RIGHT. THEY CAN OPERATE ON MOST CORRIDORS WITHIN YOUR CITY PER FLORIDA STATUTE. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS ONE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH. THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A RAILROAD RUNNING THROUGH YOUR COMMUNITY AND WITHIN THE YEAR YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF TRAINS RUNNING ON IT.

THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE STOPPING HERE AS OF RIGHT NOW, BUT WHO KNOWS IN THE FUTURE. SO REALLY STARTING TO PLAN FOR THAT FUTURE, WHETHER IT IS BRIGHT LINE SERVICE OR WHETHER IT IS SOME OTHER TYPE OF SERVICE THAT CONNECTS SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU ARE A COASTAL COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE BEACH FRONT AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT USING THAT BEACH FRONT AND USING INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY AND CANALS TO PROVIDE ANOTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE FORM OF WATER WAYS TO GET PEOPLE AROUND. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NOT NECESSARILY THIS COMMUNITY, BUT ACTUALLY COMMUNITIES STARTING TO LOOK AT AERIAL TRAMS. THEY MOVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. OVERALL GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY MOVE, THEY ARE FAR TREEPER THAN RAIL. THEY ARE ON PAR WITH ADDING A SINGLE LANE OF TRAFFIC, YET THEY MOVE FOUR TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT THIS. YOU HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM THAT HAVE JUST GONE OPERATIONAL WITHIN DISNEY, AND COMMUNITIES, TAMPA JUST RELEASED AN RFQ.

CLEARWATER JUST RELEASED A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL TO HAVE COMPANIES LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THIS IS SORT OF THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE DEALING WITH, WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT. AND THOSE ARE DRIVERLESS CARS. ALSO DRIVERLESS TRANSIT. AUTONOMOUS TRANSIT SHUTTLES. THESE ARE OPERATING IN PORTIONS OF FLORIDA TODAY. IF YOU GO TO LAKE NONA COMMUNITY IN SOUTHEAST ORLANDO THEY HAVE AN AUTONOMOUS SHUTTLE THAT'S MOVING AROUND ONE OF THE PROJECTS I WORK ON IN GAINESVILLE FLORIDA, CELEBRATION POINT IS LOOKING TO EMPLOY AUTONOMOUS SHUTTLES. THEY ARE RUNNING AROUND DOWNTOWN GAINESVILLE, THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND THE PANHANDLE CLOSE OFF A PORTION OF THE ROADWAY AND THEY ACTUALLY STARTED RUNNING THEM. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING, 10, 20, 30 YEARS OUT IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. JUST IMAGINE YOU HAD A RAIL STATION HERE AND YOU HAD A CIRCULATOR ROUTE GOING AROUND NEAR DOWNTOWN AND ALL IT DOES IS RUN EVERY FIVE, TEN MINUTES. IT GOES AROUND AND IT IS PAID FOR THROUGH YOUR MOBILITY FEE, AND REALLY THAT'S SORT OF THE VISION OF HOW THIS ALL COMES TOGETHER. NEXT SLIDE,

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PLEASE. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS COMPLETE STREETS. GOING FROM THE TYPICAL AUTO ORIENTED APPROACH TO AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO MOVING PEOPLE WHETHER THEY WANT TO WALK, BIKE, SCOOT OR USE SOME OTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION. NEXT SLIDE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO REALLY GET CREATIVE, IT IS ACTUALLY BROADWAY AVENUE NORTH OF DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE IT FROM FOUR LANES DOWN TO 2 AND PROTECTED BIKE LANE AND PARKING, AND INTEGRATE A NICER MEDIAN AND REALLY CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO WALK IN AND BIKE IN AND SUPPORTS REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF UNIVERSITY AVENUE IN GAINESVILLE, FLORIDA. A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. BUT YOU LOOK AT THESE OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AND ESPECIALLY THE ELECTRONIC ONES, WHETHER IT IS SCOOTER BIKE OR TRANSIT AND THEY CAN MOVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS CARS, IF NOT MORE AND DO IT A LOT MORE SAFELY AND A LOT MORE EFFICIENTLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS ONE WE ACTUALLY -- I JUST FINISHED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THE ACTUAL SECOND UPDATE.

THIS IS ALTAMONT SPRINGS IN CENTRAL FLORIDA. IT IS A FOUR-LANE ROADWAY GOING THROUGH. THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE OUTSIDE LANE THAT HAS A BIKE LANE AND 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANE AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE PART OF FOR DEDICATED WAY FOR AUTONOMOUS TRANSIT SHUTTLES AND ANOTHER PORTION OF IT FOR SCOOTERS AND BIKES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO DESIGN NOW.

SO REALLY ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE MENTIONED OR INCLUDED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S MOBILITY PLANS, AND THEY HAVE USED THE MOBILITY FEE AS ONE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THOSE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO THESE ARE JUST SOME DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF HOW WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OR THE CAPACITY OF A STREET TO MOVE PEOPLE VERSUS NECESSARILY JUST MOVING CARS, SO THE IMAGE TO YOUR LEFT IS ST. AUGUSTINE, SAN MARCO AVENUE. LEADS TO INCREASED TRANSIT. SERVICE ALONG THERE. THE ONE TO YOUR RIGHT IS U.S. 41 IN BRADENTON AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES, PROVIDING A RAISED MEDIAN AND REALLY REENCOURAGING REDEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHERE THAT'S ALL OF THE PLANNING COMPONENT OF IT. THAT'S REALLY LAYING OUT THE VISION FOR HOW YOUR COMMUNITY WOULD MOVE AROUND OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THE OTHER COMPONENT IS THE MONEY AN RIGHT NOW WHAT HAPPENS TODAY IS YOU HAVE A CITY, ROADWAY IMPACT FEE, AND YOU HAVE A COUNTY ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. SIMILAR TO WHAT PORT ST. LUCIE DOES. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD IN THE CITY THAN THE SUBURBS. IT COST MORE TO BUILD HERE AND COSTS MORE TO BUILD IN PORT ST. LUCIE, THAN IT COST TO BUILD IN AN INCORPORATED COUNTY. IF THEY LIVE IN THE CITY VERSUS A GATED SUBDIVISION, ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE PLAYING LESS. WHAT THE MOBILITY PLAN ALLOWS THE CITY TO DO.

BASICALLY YOU COLLECT THE CITY'S -- OR THE COUNTY'S ROADWAY IMPACT FEE AS A PLANNING GESTURE, BUT THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY COMPEL YOU TO COLLECT THAT FEE IF YOU HAVE ADOPTED A PLAN THAT ADDRESSES BOTH COUNTY ROADS, STATE ROADS AND YOUR CITY ROADS IN A MANNER THAT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND IN YOUR COMMUNITY. NOT NECESSARILY HOW THE COUNTY WANTS PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT HOW YOU WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE EXAMPLES, ACTUALLY THE COUNTY'S LIST IS PROBABLY ABOUT 50 DIFFERENT LAND USES AND ON YOUR LIST IS PROBABLY ABOUT 20 OR SO. THIS IS JUST SORT OF AN EXAMPLE. THE FIRST ONE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME LESS THAN 2500 SQUARE FEET. THEY PAY 5,130 DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY.

PAY $586 TO THE CITY, TOTAL OF 5,716. SO THE CITY GETS 10% OF

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THAT. A MOBILITY FEE PROVIDES THE CITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT THAT WHOLE 5,716 DOLLARS AND THEN YOU AS DIRECTLY REPRESENTATIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN MAKE DECISIONS ON HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT. AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE VARIOUS USES, YOU LOOK AT A COMMERCIAL USE. YOU HAVE A MOM AND POP LOCAL BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO OPEN UP HERE. THEY ARE PAYING $7,000 PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. 6300 OF THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY. LET ME ASK YOU JUST IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT THIS, TO HELP WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND IT. A RESTAURANT OPENS ACROSS THE STREET DOWN HERE. HOW MUCH IMPACT DO THEY HAVE OUT ON AT MIDWAY AND 95. AT THE AIRPORT OR GLADES CUTOFF. THEY DON'T.

THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW THAT MONEY COLLECTED HERE WITHIN YOUR CITY GOES OUT TO FUND THOSE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

THE MOBILITY FEE IS A WAY FOR THAT THE MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED HERE TO STAY HERE. REALLY IT GIVES YOU AS AN ELECTED BODY THE ABILITY TO DECIDE WHERE THAT MONEY GETS SPENT AS OPPOSED TO THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO TO THE LEFT IS ALSO THE PROPOSED COUNTY IMPACT FEE PROJECTS. NOW, THE ONE THING THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T DO ON THIS MAP IS SHOW THE CITY BOUNDARIES. BUT IT IS REAL INTERESTING IF YOU ACTUALLY OVERLAY THE CITY BOUNDARIES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OLEANDER AVENUE. THEY ARE GOING THROUGH UNINCORPORATED COUNTY. THEY SNAKE THROUGH THE UNINCORPORATED PORTIONS WITHIN THE ENCLAVES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. ESSENTIALLY YOU SEE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OLEANDER, EVERYTHING COLLECTED IS BEING USED TO FUN ROADWAYS TO THE WEST AND THAT BIG GREEN CIRCLE THAT YOU SEE THERE, THAT SHOWS YOU ALL OF THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PROJECTS FUNDED WHERE WE'RE STANDING RIGHT NOW AND THAT WHITE IS NOT AN ACCURATE-I MEAN THAT'S NOT A MISREPRSENTATION, THERE ARE NO PROJECTS. SO ESSENTIALLY THAT MEANS ANYBODY IN THAT GREEN CIRCLE THERE THAT'S PAYING A FEE, THEY ARE GOING TO FUND THE AIRPORT ROAD EXTENSION, TURNPIKE, THE GLADES CUTOFF, THE WIDENING OF JENKINS ROAD AND SO HOW MANY NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE OR RESTAURANTS OR BANKS OR USES THAT ARE GOING IN WITHIN THE CORE PART OF YOUR DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY HOW MUCH ARE THEY USING ANY OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? PROBABLY NOT A WHOLE LOT.

AND SO THE 2045 TRANSPORTATION PLAN DOES A LITTLE BIT BETTER JOB. THEY START TO IDENTIFY A FEW MORE PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY THEMSELVES, BUT THOSE ARE PRIMARILY MULTIMODAL PROJECTS, NOT ACTUALLY ROADWAY WIDENING PROJECTS. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THEN AS YOU LOOK, YOU START TO SEE MORE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN WITHIN THE CORE PART OF THE CITY, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT. YOU DON'T SEE ROADWAY WIDENING. AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE TRANSIT PROPOSALS, YOU SEE MORE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRANSIT CIRCULATORS OR EXTENDED SERVICE WITHIN THE CORE PART OF YOUR CITY. NOT NECESSARILY ROADWAY WIDENING PROJECTS. ROADWAY IMPACT FEES FUND ROADWAY WIDENING. MOBILITY FEES FUND MU MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO YOU WILL ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY HERE, WHICH YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE. LET'S SAY YOU WANTED TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'RE STANDING RIGHT NOW. IN YOUR CRA, YOU CAN ACTUALLY STRUCTURE A MOBILITY FEE SUCH THAT HAVE YOU A LOWER RATE WITHIN YOUR DOWNTOWN OF YOUR CRA AND THEN AS YOU GO OUT FURTHER AND YOU HAVE MORE ROADWAY NEEDS, THEN THEY WOULD PAY A LARGER FEE. ACTUALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN BRADENTON. YOU HAVE THE LOWEST FEE WITHIN THE CORE. NEXT HERE UP WITHIN THE CITY AND SORT OF ON THE EDGES AND THEN IN FUTURE AREAS ANNEX IN WOULD PAY EVEN HIGHER FEE.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FEW MORE ROADWAY NEEDS THAT GO IN THERE.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH WITHIN

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YOUR COMMUNITY. SO WHAT GETS PAID HERE IS THE SAME THING THAT GETS PAID OUT AT I-95 AND MIDWAY. WHO PROBABLY HAS THE GREATER NEED FOR ROADWAY CAPACITY. IT IS MOST LIKELY I-95 AND MIDWAY. NOT NECESSARILY WHERE WE'RE STANDING THIS EVENING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS JUST SORT OF AN EXAMPLE AND I MENTIONED TO YOU THE BRADENTON IS STRUCTURED.

BASICALLY IT IS THEIR CRA AND THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA. IT SORT OF PAYS THE LOWEST. THE NEXT PAYS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THEY WOULD PAY AN EVEN HIGHER FEE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. LIKEWISE, IT GOES TO JUST A WHOLE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES, AND WE WOULD WORK WITH YOUR STAFF TO REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE SCHEDULE TO MAKE IT EASY TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO I KNOW WE COVERED A LOT THIS EVENING. IT IS A -- IT IS A BIG DISCUSSION. RIGHT NOW, IN YOUR COMMUNITY YOU HAVE NEEDS, YOU HAVE MONEY THAT'S BEING GENERATED, IT IS JUST NOT NECESSARILY GOING TOWARDS THE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO SEE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT A MOBILITY PLAN AND LOOK AT A MOBILITY FEE REALLY GIVES YOU WHO IS DIRECTLY REPRESENTATIVE TO YOUR CONST CONSTITUENTS, THE ABILITY TO SAY, YOU'RE PAYING THIS MONEY, THIS IS WHERE YOUR MONEY IS GOING. AND ALSO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES, ONCE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN, TO GO TO YOUR LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, TO GO TO YOUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, YOU CAN GO OTHER PLACES AND SAY, LOOK THIS IS OUR TOP PRIORITY, THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MONEY INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY GRANT OR THERE'S SOMETHING -- NOW IS A BIG PUSH TO SAY, WELL, HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN. AND YOU KNOW, YOU ARE BRINGING SOME MONEY TO THE TABLE AND HEP US GET THERE, THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES TO GET FUNDED. REALLY IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO TAKE SORT OF CONTROL OF ITS OWN TRANSPORTATION DESTINATION. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >>> I THINK YOU HAVE SORT OF

BLOWN US AWAY. >>> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. >>> I LIKE THE MAP YOU SHOW WITH THE CIRCLE ON IT. WITH THE GREEN CIRCLE. THE CENTRALIZED PART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE DO REACH THOSE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THAT CIRCLE WITH OUR CITY LIMITS AND CITY BOUNDARIES.

THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT THAT DOES TOUCH ON THAT, WEST OF THAT CIRCLE. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DO OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO WHEN THE COUNTY OWNS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND HOW DOES THAT PARTNERSHIP MOVE

FORWARD? >> IN AN IDEAL SITUATION IT IS COLLABORATIVE. BASICALLY YOU WANT TO DO X TO JENKINS, YOU WANT TO WIDEN IT. 10% OF THAT IS THE CITY. WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR 10% OF THE COST AND WE'LL SET ASIDE A PARTIAL OF WHAT WE COLLECT AS OUR MOBILITY FEE AND IF AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO WIDEN THAT ROAD, WE HAVE THIS MONEY THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE, IT IS OUR CITY'S SHARE OF THAT IMPROVEMENT, HERE IT IS. BUT IT IS YOU DECIDING TO SET THAT MONEY ASIDE NOT THE COUNTY TAKING THAT MONEY AND PRIORITIZING AND PROGRAMMING IT.

THAT'S REALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THAT SITUATION, YOU WOULD WANT TO IMPROVE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE WIDENED AS PART OF YOUR PLAN AND FEE. GOOD AND BAD, THE COUNTY HAS GOT ONE OF THE HIGHER FEES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ACTUALLY BEING GENERATED THAT COULD GO TOWARDS THESE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY COULD ALSO GO TOWARDS IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY NEEDS AS WELL.

THE BEST THING DO IS TO INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS IN YOUR PLAN AND SET ASIDE A PORTION TO GO TOWARDS THAT PROJECT. DOT, IF THEY HAVE A STATE ROAD PROJECT. A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS USE THIS AS A LOCAL MATCH. THEY SAY DOT, YOU'RE GOING TO COME AND RESURFACE THIS ROADWAY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DECORATIVE CROSSWALKS. INSTEAD OF A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, WE WANT TO SEE A 10 FOOT TRAIL. WE WANT TO SEE A PROTECTIVE BIKE LANE.

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HERE IS OUR CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THAT PROJECT. THAT'S HOW IT WOULD WORK. HOPEFUL IT IS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WITH THE COUNTY. I CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT'S THE SITUATION OR THE CASE. NOBODY NECESSARILY LIKES TO GIVE UP MONEY. I ALSO WORKED FOR SARASOTA COUNTY. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR NINE YEARS NOW. CONVINCED THE COUNTY COMMISSION AT THE TIME, IT WAS BEST THAT THE CITY OF SARASOTA WANTED TO DO THEIR OWN THING, LET THEM DO THEIR OWN THING. IF THE COMMUNITIES WANT DO THEIR OWN THING, LET THEM DO IT. YOU HAVE ENOUGH ISSUES, UNINCORPORATED COUNTY TO DEAL WITH. THERE'S REALLY SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BE CREATIVE AND COLLABORATIVE AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AS PARTNERS. FOR MOST RESIDENTS YOU ARE DIRECTLY REPRESENTATIVE TO THEM. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN COUNTY AND CITY. IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER. ALSO THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE THE ONE TO MAKE THE DECISION WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.

>>> WE DO HAVE A TPO HERE, TWO OF US SIT ON THAT BOARD.

CURRENTLY I'VE HAD THE FORTUNE OR MISFORTUNE TO SIT AS THE CHAIR. IMPACT FEES ALONE, THEY GIVE ME. -- WE HOPE THAT IT COVERS IT ALL. IN DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENTS, I'VE ARGUED THIS AS MY 22 YEARS AS A PROFESSIONAL. IMPACT FEE SUCH AS UTILITIES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1900S.

WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOMETHING. NO, IT IS ALREADY HERE. WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE DO. HOW WE DO BUSINESS EVERY DAY. IT IS TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT FORMULA. I'M GLAD YOU'RE PRESENTING THIS TODAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR OUR CITY. WE STRUGGLE.

WE HAVE A LIMITED CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH WE DO. WE HAVE LIMITED BUDGET. EVERY SINGLE YEAR, TRYING TO BRING US NEW PROJECTS BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE BUDGET. THEY DON'T ALWAYS MAKE THE LIST, THEY GET CHOPPED A LOT OF TIMES. AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE FACT THAT WE NEED OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, I APPRECIATE THE EXPERTISE ON YOUR PART. MY KIDS, THEY WANT A DIFFERENT WAY TO TRAVEL. THEY ARE 18 AND 22.

THAT'S JUST THE REAL DEAL. DAD FIGURE IT OUT. YOU'RE UP THERE, YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING, YOU'VE GOT A VOICE. SO DO WE, BUT YOU GOT THIS OTHER VOICE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.

>> MR. PERONA. >>> WOW. YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW IF WE COULD GO FORWARD, WE KNOW THAT IT IS NOT ALL GOING TO BE CARS AND PEDESTRIAN WALKING. IN FACT, IT IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE GROUP OF THINGS. I WAS IN SEATTLE LAST YEAR AND I WANTED TO GO FOR A SHORT LITTLE RUN. I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW YOU RAN, SHE DIDN'T. SHE WENT ON A ONE WHEEL. IT FREAKED ME OUT, BELIEVE ME. OUT THERE FOLKS ARE ACCEPTING THIS AS A WAY NOT JUST TO HAVE FUN BUT TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. AND THAT'S THE REALIZATION. WE AS A COMMUNITY AND NOW ARE CONTEMPLATING HAVING A MANAGEMENT COMPANY COME IN AND DO PAID PARKING IN DOWNTOWN, SO WE CAN HELP MANAGE THAT PART OF IT. THAT WILL CREATE A CULTURE OF MAYBE PARK AND THEN HOP ON SOME TYPE OF MOBILITY TO GEE AROUND.

>>> ABSOLUTELY. >>> THIS HAS ALREADY STARTED.

I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. YOU GO NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK SO ARCHAIC, NOT SO MUCH 20 YEARS FROM NOW.

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WE HAD TURNED THE CORNER ON THAT. I DO AGREE THE PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TODAY. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE IT.

SO YOU PIQUED MY INTEREST AND I -- THERE'S SOMETHING THAT KEEPS BOUNCING IN MY HEAD. IT SAYS WHAT IS THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS? WHAT IS -- WHAT CAN GO WRONG? AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU HOW MUCH OF THESE IMPACTS ARE COLLECTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE USED. YOU CAN SAY, WELL, 95 AND TURNPIKE DON'T FAMILY HOUSE SITE. IN A WAY THEY DO. WE CAN SIT THERE AND ADD SOME SMALLER PERCENTAGE TO THAT. THAT'S AGREEABLE. I'M TRYING TO WRAP THAT WHOLE THING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN. WHEN WE SEE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE FUNDING FOR THING THAT WE KNOW WE NEED, IN FACT, EVERY TIME WE MEET AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUNCTION AS THE CITY. MOBILITY ALWAYS ENDS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STAGE. SO, YOU KNOW, FUNDING HAS CAUGHT ALL OF OUR ATTENTION. I WANT TO GO TO NEXT STEP AND FIND OUT MORE AND MORE ABOUT IT. AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT. HOW DOES IT WORK IN WITH THE PLAN, THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD AND TO COME UP WITH A -- YOU KNOW, SOME FORM OF A STRONG COMMITMENT TO THAT PLAN AND YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. AND I WANT TO

KNOW WHAT THE DOWNFALLS ARE. >>> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE BIGGEST DOWNFALL IS, YOU HAVE A LARGE OPEN GOVERNMENT, THAT'S GOING TO FIND ITSELF NOT COLLECTING AS MUCH MONEY AS IT USED TO. AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO TAKE AN ADVERSARIAL APPROACH, THEY WANT TO TAKE A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH, THAT'S REALLY POTENTIALLY YOUR BIGGEST DOWNFALL, DOES IT BECOME A MATCH BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

IS THERE A DISAGREEMENT ON WHAT PROJECTS GET BUILT. IS THERE DISAGREEMENT ON WHO COLLECTS THE FUNDS, IS THERE DISAGREEMENT ON WHERE THAT MONEY IS SPENT. IF THERE'S A RED FLAG, THAT'S YOUR RED FLAG. IN TERMS OF YOU COLLECTING THE MONEY, YOU BEING ABLE TO SPEND IT. YOU BEING ABLE TO PRIORITIZE IT. THOSE ARE ALL POSITIVES TO THE COMMUNITY. THE BIGGEST ONE OUT THERE IS, YOU HAVE A COUNTY THAT'S HISTORICALLY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS COLLECTED THAT MONEY AND IT IS PRIORITIZED TO HOW IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE. IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, IT HAS DEEMED IT IS APPROPRIATE TO SPEND IT ON ROADWAYS, PREDOMINANTLY IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN ANNEXATION, YOU KNOW, ALL RI RIGHT, WHAT SHARE OF THIS FUTURE PROJECT ARE YOU GOING TO INCLUDE IN YOUR PLAN BECAUSE YOU ARE ANNEXING ALL OF THIS AREA AROUND HERE AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO ENCOMPASS OUR ROADWAY. ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT OR ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. IN AN IDEAL WORLD IT IS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH. YOU KNOW AND THERE ARE SOME CITIES, YOU KNOW, BOTH PALM BEACH GARDENS AND IN BOYNTON BEACH, A PORTION OF THEIR CITY THEY HAVE LEFT AS PART OF THE COUNTY SYSTEM. THEY HAVE SAID THEY ARE CONTINUE TO PAID ROADWAY IMPACT FEES AND DO CONCURRENCY BECAUSE THEY NEED ROADS. A PORTION OF OUR CITY WHERE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, WE HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THAT AND WE HAVE ADOPTED A MOBILITY FEE.

THAT COULD BE AN OPTION WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF. THERE COULD BE A LINE THAT MAKES SENSE WHERE THEY CONTINUE TO PAY AND BE PART OF THE COUNTY SYSTEM AND THEN ANOTHER PARTIAL OF YOUR CITY MAKES SENSE FOR YOU ALL TO DETERMINE WHERE THAT MONEY IS APPROPRIATE. THAT'S REALLY YOUR BIGGEST PITFUL. I WILL SAY THE PLAN FROM WHAT I HAVE FOUND ANYWHERE FROM 30% UPWARDS TO 50% OF THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN A PLAN ENDED UP GETTING FUNDED THROUGH SOURCES OTHER THAN MOBILITY FEES. WHETHER IT IS AN APPROPRIATIONS, WHETHER IT IS GRANTS, WHETHER IT IS A DOT SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE. LET'S INTEGRATE THAT AS PART OF OUR PROJECT OR NEW DEVELOPMENT. THE OTHER THING WITH FEES. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK APP THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME, AND YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THERE. APARTMENT COMPLEX. THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN THAT AND A SIDEWALK OR A SCHOOL. YOU NOW HAVE A MEANS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUILD THAT SIDEWALK OFF YOUR SITE TODAY AS PART OF YOUR PROJECT, WE CAN EITHER GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR YOUR FEES OR WE'LL EVEN COLLECT THEM FROM A FEW OF THE OTHER ADJACENT PARCELS HERE AND WE'LL REIMBURSE YOU. BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY

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IS, YOU GET AN IMPROVEMENT IN A YEAR AS OPPOSED TO FIVE YEARS.

AND THAT'S REALLY HOW THIS HAS BEEN USED AS A USEFUL TOOL AND THEN YOU START LOOKING AT GOING THE NEXT STEP INTEGRATING THINGS IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, CREATING WHAT ARE KNOWN AS MOBILITY HUBS. YOU START SAYING, OKAY, YOU WANT A REDUCTION IN PARKING, THAT'S FINE, YOU GOT TO PROVIDE A PULLOUT AREA FOR UBER AND LYFT AND BY THE WAY, YOU GOT TO PROVIDE A COVER PAD FOR SCOOTERS. FOR BIKES AND FOR PARKING. AND SO YOU START TO BRING ALL OF THESE PIECES TOGETHER AS PART OF YOUR PLAN. YOU SAY THIS IS OUR MULTIMODAL CORRIDOR HERE. EVERYBODY COMING IN ALONG THAT CORRIDOR IS DPOG -- IS GOING TO HELP YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS. IT HAS BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL. I'LL BE HONEST IT TAKES SOME WORK. THE EASIEST THING DO, THE COUNTY HAS AND YOU, AS A CITY, HAVE WHAT KNOWN AS A CONSUMPTION BASED ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. ALL IT IS BASE ON THE COST TO WIDEN THE ROADWAY, WHETHER IT IS TWO LANES, FOUR LANES, OR SIX LANES, HOW MUCH THAT ROADWAY GENERATES IN THEORETICAL CAPACITY AND THEN WHAT'S THE FEE. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO PLANNING THAT GOES BEHIND IT. IT IS NOT BASED ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN A COST AND CAPACITY. HERE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS AND THAT FEE IS BASED ON THOSE LIST OF PROJECTS. IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME. IT TAKES DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE TO PUT A SIDEWALK, WHERE TO PUT A BIKE LANE, WHERE TO PUT A TRAIL. THERE IS MORE EFFORT THAT GOES INTO IT. IT ALSO GENERALLY LEADS TO COMMUNITY BUY-IN AS WELL. SO YOU'RE VESTED IN THAT PLAN AND YOU WANT TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S REALLY TIEING BOTH DEVELOPMENT TO AN ACTUAL PLAN FOR HOW YOU WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THESE HAVE BEEN WIDELY EMBRACED.

BECAUSE INTUITIVELY THEY ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE.

>> GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. >>THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. THAT MAKES SENSE. I WOULD SAY THESE ARE SOME NEW CONCEPTS, RIGHT? AND THIS IS A NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT MOBILITY. CAN YOU SPEAK TO -- OKAY, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, THE CITY OF THE SOUTH IS LOOKING AT THIS, OBVIOUSLY A CONVERSATION, YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT. WHAT'S STOPPING THE COUNTY FROM DOING THIS. HAVE YOU SEEN A SITUATION WHERE THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES HAVE COME IN WITH A MOBILITY FEE AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO PARSE UP LINES AND IT IS JUST SOMETHING

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT. >>> IT IS INTERESTING, THEY HAVE KICKED AROUND THE IDEA. THEY HAVE. ST. LUCIE HAS, MARTIN HAS, PALM BEACH COUNTY HAS. I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE'S PROBABLY 15 TO 20 COUNTIES THAT

HAVE ACTUALLY MOVED FORWARD. >>> OKAY.

>>> A LOT OF THEM ARE STILL IN THE ROADWAY WIDENING

BUSINESS. >> OKAY. AND THEY ARE ALSO THEIR FUNCTION OF "AS A CITY" APPROVING SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENTS OUTSIDE OF YOUR MUNICIPALITIES AND A LOT OF CITIES WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BROWARDS AND MIAMI-DADES WHICH ARE LARGELY ALL INCORPORATED. PINELLAS COUNTY, YOU HAVE COUNTIES FUNCTIONING AS CITIES, THEY ARE IMPROVING DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING ROADS AND SIDEWALKS AND BUILDING SEWER AND THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY COMPETING AGAINST CITIES AND WHAT A LOT OF CITIES ARE FINDING IS THAT THE COUNTIES ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE CITIES WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING AND REDEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING AND THEY ARE USING IT TO SUPPORT THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD ROADS. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW -- AND ALSO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE ABILITY OF SOMEBODY TO WALK OR, YOU KNOW, TAKE A SCOOTER OR TAKE A BIKE OR TAKE A ONE-WHEEL TWO THREE MILES, YOU CAN COR A LOT OF TERRITORY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SCALE, THAT'S WHY AT LOVE COUNTIES HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD. A LOT OF COUNTIES DON'T WORK WELL WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE SCALE SUBDIVISIONS, THEY DON'T

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FUNCTION. PEOPLE AREN'T DRIVING OR WALKING OR BIKING TWO MILES, THREE MILES, A MILE. THEY ARE DRIVING THEIR CAR SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT MILES IN LENGTH. OR MAYBE THEY ARE GOING DOWN THE STREET TO PUBLIX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOME COUNTIES HAVE BEEN INNOVATIVE AND PROGRESSIVE ABOUT IT. I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE INNOVATION IS OCCURRING AT THE CITIES RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU SHOWED A GRAPH THAT I THINK IT WAS BROADWAY ROAD AND PALM BEACH, I KNOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A NEW CONCEPT

OF THAT AREA. >>> ABSOLUTELY.

>>> YOU WOULD HAVE DATA THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT ON THAT COMMUNITIES. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT THAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING OBVIOUSLY BRINGS IN DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING KIND OF THAT IMPACT AND HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD IMPACT A NEIGHBORHOOD, A COMMUNITY WITH THE NUMBERS BEHIND THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY CURIOUS ABOUT AND CLOSELY FOLLOWED WITH THAT, AS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY HERE THAT IS VERY SENIOR, RIGHT? AND THEIR MOBILITY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET SOME ELECTRIC CARTS TO COME THROUGH AND PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO THE GROCERY STORE. IT PUTS OUR SENIORS, IT EMPOWERS THEM MORE. THEY CAN RIDE THE ELECTRIC SCOOTER AND GO TO THE STORES OR WHATEVER. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BECAUSE OF THE SENIORITY OF THIS COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY. AND EVEN JUST WEST OF US HERE IN THESE TYPES OF IMPACTS AND HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT AND DO YOU HAVE DATA WITH THAT, THAT'S A CONCERN?

>> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU JUST LOOK TO ONE OF THE OLDEST COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA, THE VILLAGES IN TERMS OF ITS RELATIVELY NEW IN SIZE, BUT ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS.

>>> LET ME QUALIFY TO THAT. THE VILLAGES THAT'S 100,000 PLUS INCOME PLUS PEOPLE. I'M TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT AT 100,000. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE VILLAGES, THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MINDSET OF MOBILITY. YET WE NEED MOBILITY TO MOVE THEM. I WOULD WANT TO COMPARE MORE OF A RIVERA OR SOMEWHERE DELRAY BEACH WHEN IT COMES TO MOBILITY OF OUR

COMMUNITIES. >>> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM ARE THESE -- THE GOLF CARTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THESE TYPE OF SHUTTLE SERVICES.

THE PROBLEM IS, YOU LOOK OUT HERE AND YOU'VE GOT A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ROADWAY. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THEM RIDING ON THE SIDEWALK, OR TRUCKS GOING 30 MILES AN HOUR. LET'S SAY THEY HAD A SIDE STREET OR ONE OF THOSE LANES THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY RIDE ON. NOW YOU CAN PUT MONEY TOWARDS A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE, A LITTLE SIX PASSENGERER, NINE PASSENGERER THING, LOW BARRIERS OF ENTRY, IF SOMEBODY CAN'T MOVE AROUND QUITE AS QUICKLY AS THEY USED TO. THEY CAN STILL RELATIVELY GET INTO A SMALL PACE AND THEY GET TAKEN DOWN TO THE GROCERY STORE AND TAKEN TO THE ICE CREAM PARLOR AND THE HAIR SALON AND DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE FOCUSED ON MOVING 40 MILES AN HOUR. YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE FOCUSED ON 10 TO 15 MILES PER HOUR. I MENTIONED THE VILLAGES, UPWARDS TO 50% OF ALL TRIPS ARE MADE BY GOLF CART. IN TERMS OF SENIOR MOBILITY, THEY FOUND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. MOST RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, A LOT OF THEM ARE GOLF CART BASED. IT IS AN EASY VEHICLE TO DRIVE. THEY ARE ONLY GOING 10 TO 15 MILES PER HOUR.

SOME OF THEM HAVE THEM SOUPED-UP A LITTLE BIT AND GO A LITTLE FASTER. THE REALITY THEY HAVE PLACES TO RIDE BUT A LOT CHEAPER

THAN OWNING A CAR. >>> I WOULD AGREE.

>> THE POSSIBILITY OF MOVING THEM AROUND THEY ARE NOT HOME BOUND BECAUSE THEIR KIDS HAVE TAKEN THE CAR AND THEY JUST SIT

THERE AND WE WANT TO MOVE THEM. >>> TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SMART PHONE, YOU CAN SIGNAL THEM AND MESSAGE THEM, HEY THE CIRCULATOR IS TWO MINUTES AWAY, THREE MINUTES AWAY, FOUR MINUTES AWAY. THEY STOP OUTSIDE OF THE STREET AND THEN THEY GO AROUND. IT IS REALLY--IT IS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT EVERYBODY OWNING THEIR OWN PERSONAL CAR

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AND EVERYBODY USING THAT CAR TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

>>> GOT YOU. >>> AND THAT'S REALLY THE -- I WOULD LOVE TO SAY EVERYBODY IS EMBRACING THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I

MEAN, IT IS -- >> WELL WHAT YOU HAVE IS AN AGING POPULATION. AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A BALANCE IN YOUNGER PEOPLE SAYING WE WANT ALTERNATIVES TO THE CAR. BUT THE OLDER GENERATION WOULD NEVER EVEN THINK OF AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE CAR, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY GREW UP WITH. IT WAS A BIG PURCHASE, THE FIRST THING THEIR FAMILY PROBABLY PURCHASED. THE AUTOMOBILE HAS BEEN PART OF OUR DNA AND HAS BEEN FOR WHAT, 100 YEARS. SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S -- AND ALSO TECHNOLOGY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF AGING PEOPLE USE EASILY, IF THEY HAVE A SMART PHONE, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE A SMART PHONE, BECAUSE THEY I THINK THEY ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO TAKE CALLS ON THAT PHONE. THEY DON'T THINK TO TAKE PICTURES AND TEXT AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, TALK TO ALEXA, WHATEVER. WE HAVE TRIED HERE TWICE NOW TO OPEN SOUTH BRIDGE, WHICH GOES TO SOUTH BEACH AND REDUCE THE LANES AND CREATE BIKE LANES AND MAKE IT SAFER FOR CYCLISTS TO GO OVER THAT BRIDGE, AND IT HAS BEEN -- PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY MUCH AGAINST IT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO -- THEY PERCEIVE THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

IN A TIMELY FASHION, THAT IF THERE WERE A DISASTER LIKE A HURRICANE, THAT EVACUATION WOULD BE COMPROMISED AND COMPLICATED AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD EVER REDUCE A CAR LANE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD RIDE A BICYCLE. THEY DON'T GET THAT. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GROW UP WITH THAT. SO IT IS PSYCHOLOGICAL BUT WE HAVE TRIED THAT TWICE AND WE ALSO, THAT BRIDGE GOES TO SEAWAY DRIVE BECAUSE IT IS TWO LANE AND WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IF WE MOVE THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE'LL BE EVEN MORE CHALLENGED. I'M

INTRIGUED BY THE MOBILITY FEE. >>> IT IS DEFINITELY AN

EDUCATION COMPONENT. >>> YEP.

>>> IT IS A LOT OF VISUALIZATION. QUITE HONESTLY, TOO, PART OF IT IS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU DESIGN IT. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SHOW THEM IS THERE AN EMERGENCY OR A HURRICANE. IF YOU DESIGN THAT DEDICATED BIKE LANE DIRECTLY, IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO ANOTHER PURPOSE TO GET YOU OUT. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT MINDSET. THE OTHER THING THAT -- ONE OF THE MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE APPROACHES, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE ST. AUGUSTINE AND A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO DO BECAUSE IT IS THE OLDEST CITY IN AMERICA AND IT HAS GOT NARROW STREETS, BUT WE COMPLETELY ELIM MINUTE NATURED ROADWAY LEVEL OF SERVICE AND ESTABLISHED A NEW SERVICE BASE THE ON POSTED SPEED, BUT IT IS AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP. SO THE SLOWER THE SPEED THE BETTER THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL USERS, WHEN YOU GO FROM HAVING A ROADWAY DESIGNED TO MOVE CARS AT 30, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT IS DESIGNED AT A SPEED OF 15 MILES AN HOUR. NOW YOU'RE TALKING EIGHT FOOT, NINE FOOT TRAVEL LANES AND NOW YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ROOM FOR THAT 9 FOOT BIKE LANE OR THAT NINE FOOT SHARED TRANSIT LANE AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DRIVE 15 MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S WHAT IT IS BEING DESIGNED FOR. IT IS PROBLEMATIC WHEN YOU DESIGN IT TO GO 30 AND YOU WANT TO NARROW IT AND PUT A BIKE LANE ON IT.

HERE WE'RE DOING EDUCATION SAYING THIS IS HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER. MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY IS NECESSARILY DRIVING TO THE BEACH. MAYBE THEY ARE USING SOME OTHER MODE OF TRANSPORTATION AND MAYBE YOU TAKE OUT ON-STREET PARKING AND YOU PUT IT FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE SO THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS OR YOU PUT THAT PARKING ON DURING OFF SEASON AND THEN ON SEASON REPURPOSE IT FOR A DIFFERENT USE. UP IN THE P PANHAN PANHANDLE, THEY ARE A RESTAURANT REDEVELOPED. THEY HAD HUGE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WHOLE PROOF OF PARK ONCE ENVIRONMENT. THIS CONCEPT. SO THE COUNTY HAD A PIECE OF LAND.

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THEY RESTRICTED PARKING BY THE BEACH. THEY TRANSPORTED FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE BEACH. IT WAS HUGELY SUCCESSFUL. THIS SUMMER THEY WILL DO IT ON FOUR DIFFERENT ROUTES, BUT IT ALL WORKED BECAUSE YOU TOOK AWAY THE PARKING. YOU SAID YOU WANT TO

PARK -- >> THAT'S HOW YOU EDUCATE.

>>> PEOPLE COULD HAVE A DRINK THEN OR GO DOWN THERE AND ACTUALLY THE BUSINESS OWNERS, YOU KNOW, THEIR BUSINESS ACTUALLY DID EVEN BETTER BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD GET DOWN THERE.

WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE, PEOPLE GET DOWN THERE AND THEY CAN'T FIND A PARKING SPACE THEY TURN AROUND AND LEAVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>>> I KNOW THAT IMPACT FEES IS A BIG SORE POINT WITH DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS. THEY HATE THE WORD. THEY HATE HAVING TO PAY THEM. THEY RESENT IT, AND SO IT WOULD BE A CHANGE OF PACE SAY MOBILITY. THIS IS A MOBILITY FEE, IT IS NOT AN IMPACT FEE. THE BIGGEST THEY HATE IT. ALL THEY KNOW IS THEY ARE WRITING A CHECK. THAT CHECK IS GOING SOMEWHERE, BUT IT ISN'T GOING IN FRONT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

>>> THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT CRAZY ABOUT THEM EITHER.

>>> NO. >>> THEY WANT YOU TO JUSTIFY THEM AND WHY NOT? IT IS ACTUALLY GOOD GOVERNMENT AND MORE TRANSPARENT TO HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS TO SAY THIS IS WHAT

YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AND FUND. >>> RIGHT. MOST PLACES WHERE YOU ACTUALLY SEE THAT AND THEY SEE THEY ARE GETTING SOME BENEFIT OUT OF IT. FOR LEASE AT A MINIMUM IT HOLDS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE OF BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING. RIGHT NOW, THERE ISN'T ACCOUNTABILITY. TAKE THE MONEY, TRUST US AND MAYBE IT GETS

SPENT, MAYBE IT DOESN'T. >> IT GOES IN THE BLACK HOLE.

THIS HAS BEEN VERY EDUCATION AND INTERESTING.

>>> I'M ON A POLICY COMMITTEE. HE AND I YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN COLLEAGUES FOR EVERY OVER 20 YEARS NOW. IT IS A TOP PRIORITY, IT IS BECOMING A HUGE ISSUE FOR CITIES AROUND THE

ENTIRE STATE NOW. >>> I'M ON THAT POLICY COMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL WOMAN C

CARRBELA. >>> WHAT ARE YOU ALL EXPERIENCING AND FEELING RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF CITIES IN THE EXACT SAME BOAT AND LOOKING FOR CREATIVE WAYS TO GET OUT OF BECAUSE YOU HAVE REAL NEEDS.

>> IT IS AGAINST OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE MONEY GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT IS IMMEDIATE AND IT DRIVES US CRAZY NO DOUBT.

>>> IT ISN'T ME CREATING ANYTHING. I TOOK THEIR MAP AND

DREW A CIRCLE AROUND IT. >>> THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.

>>> YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITIES YOU RELATED TO, I THINK A LOT OF THEM HAVE A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF DOT STATE-OWNED ROADS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE FIVE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE HAVE A1A. U.S. 1. 25TH STREET. STATE ROAD 70. STATE ROAD 68,

WHICH IS ORANGE AVENUE HERE. >> OLEANDER.

>>> NO, THE STATE OWNS AND WE TOUCH KINGS HIGHWAY. THREE OR FOUR PARCELS MAYBE. OTHER THAN THE TWO INTERSTATES THAT ARE THERE. SO WE'RE REALLY CHALLENGED. AS A COMMUNITY, AS A WHOLE COUNTY, MAYBE 10% OF THE ROADS ARE OWNED BY THE DOT.

WHERE IN PALM BEACH, I BETCHA THEY ARE MORE THAN 40% STATE-OWNED ROADS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS AND ATTENTION THAT GOES ON THERE. WE'RE ALWAYS SCRAPPING AND TRYING TO FIGURE

OUT -- >> FIGHTING FOR THAT MONEY FROM

THE DOT. >>> FOR OUR SMALL PERCENTAGE.

>>> A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS END UP USING THESE AS ALSO THE BASIS FOR EXTENDING INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX.

ULTIMATELY THAT'S REALLY THE ABILITY TO GENERATE A LOT OF MONEY IS TO HAVE THAT SALES TAX REVENUE COMING IN THERE TO OFFSET SOME OF IT. THAT'S REALLY HOW YOU GET A LOT OF THESE DONE. THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT, THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR IT AND THE ONES THAT DON'T, THERE

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ISN'T. YOU'RE RIGHT, SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES, THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF STATE ROADS. IT IS FUNNY, ACTUALLY THE STATE HAS BECOME IN A LOT OF INCIDENTS, THE STATES ARE EASIER TO WORK WITH THAN THE COUNTIES IN TERMS OF INNOVATIVE APPROACHES. IT HAS DEFINITELY BEEN AN ODD TRANSITION.

>> YOU'LL FIND IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND PORT ST. LUCIE, THEY UNDERSTAND IT. THEY WANT THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE. ROADWAY DIETS, YOU SAID IT IN THERE, THAT'S HUGE. I FEEL LEAK WE'RE A PROGRESSIVE CITY AND WE'RE MOVING IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS AND YOU, I LAUGH, I TELL PEOPLE THEY ARE CUSSING AT ME WHEN THEY SAY GET RID OF ON-STREET PARKING. I WANT TO GET RID OF IT. OH, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? BUT

THAT'S A REAL DEAL. >>> IT FREES UP A LOT OF -- SOME QUESTIONS, ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IS, WHY ARE WE ALLOCATING PUBLIC SPACE TO STORE A PRIVATE VEHICLE. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT ON- STREET PARKING IS.

>>> BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT.

>> THE LAST 100 YEARS, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WE HAVE DONE THAT. BUT IT REALLY PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVELY TO PROVIDE PRETTY SAFE FACILITIES AND ENCOURAGING THEM, NICE PARKING GARAGE HERE, A LOT OF EMPTY SPOTS WHEN I PULLED INTO IT THIS EVENING. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE THOSE FOLKS TO PARK IN THERE AND NOW YOU FREE UP THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. THE GOOD THING IS, I KNOW THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT MOVING CURBS OR ASPHALT AND YOU JUST USE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, YOU CAN RUN TEST. YOU CAN RUN TRIALS, YOU CAN SAY WHAT IF WE DID, WHAT IF WE LOOKED AT THAT, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN YOU CONVERT IT BACK TO PARKING. THERE'S REALLY SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES YOU CAN HAVE HERE AS PART OF JUST EXAMPLES FOR THE

COMMUNITY. >>> I THINK THIS HAS BEEN GREAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. I THIN WE NEED TO WIND THIS UP UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>>> COMMENT TO THE CITY MANAGER. I THINK WE'RE ALL SOMEWHAT INTERESTED IN TAKING THIS TO THE NEXT STEP. HOW DOES STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND WHAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT STEP.

>>> YES, SIR. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. AT THIS TIME, THIS IS ABOUT DIGESTING THE CONCEPT.

FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DEFINED SCOPE OF SURFACE, WHEREBY WE ILLUSTRATE WHAT IT IS EXACTLY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. IN DOING SO, WE NEED TO MEET AND MATCH ALL OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ELEMENTS, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH STATE ROAD A1A. WHEREBY OUR DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MATCH UP TO OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. WE NEED TO GET SOME NEW DEFINITIONS AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY TO REVIEW THE TRAFFIC CONFIGURATION AND THE MOVEMENT OF HUMAN BEINGS IN AND AROUND THESE CORRIDORS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF SOLUTION AN THIS COULD INCORPORATE THAT SOLUTION INTO OUR MOBILITY PLAN OF THE FUTURE.

WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND CONSIDER THAT AND CONSIDER THAT AT AN UPCOMING CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >>> NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA IS

[b. First Quarter Financial Report]

THE FIRST QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT.

>>> MR. MIMS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO LEAD INTO THIS?

>> NO. >>> OKAY. IT IS ALL ON GIANA. MS. MORRIS, HE HAS JUST THROWN YOU INTO THE DEEP END.

>>> HE ALWAYS DOES THAT. >> GOOD EVENING, WE HAVE OUR FIRST QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING IN DECEMBER 30TH. WE HAVE OUR REPORT HERE. I'M SO CRITICIZED ABOUT THE YELLOW, BUT HERE IT IS.

>> CAN'T HIDE IT. >> WE CAN'T HIDE IT. ALL FUNDS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO THAT WE KNOW REMAIN SOMEWHAT CHALLENGED. OUR GOLF COURSE AND OUR SUNRISE, BUT ALL OTHER FUNDS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER ARE PERFORMING AS THEY SHOULD BE

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PERFORMING. AS WE LOOK AT THE FUND POSITION SHEET HERE.

YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE FUNDS ARE LACKING. AN EXPLANATION TO SUNRISE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE NET RESOURCES ARE NEGATIVE BUT I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE IS -- WE HAVE AN APPROPRIATION OF 712,000 TO FUND THE BUDGET. AND ONCE I MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT IN FOR THAT, IT SHOWS THAT THAT NEGATIVE -- THAT NUMBER IS NEGATIVE, HOWEVER IF WE WERE NOT TO HAVE THAT IN THERE, IT WOULD BE POSITIVE, SO THE FUND IS STILL IN A GREAT POSITION. OUR GOLF COURSE IS LAGGING.

NOT BY AS MUCH, BUT IT IS LAGGING, $23,000 FOR THE FIRST QUARTER. AND OUR SUNRISE THEATER, YOU SEE IS AT $151,000 FOR THE FIRST QUARTER. THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE GRANT FUNDS.

>> YES, SIR. >> I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION. THE NUMBERS THAT I LOOK AT IMMEDIATELY ARE FIRST QUARTER REVENUE VERSUS FIRST QUARTER EXPENSE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT I HAD THE MOST CONCERNS WITH WHEN I JUST GAVE IT A CURSORY REVIEW OF THIS PIECE OF PAPER. THE SUNRISE

LOOKING AT 96 VERSUS 384. >> CORRECT.

>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE LIMITED IN WHAT'S APPENING THERE. GIANA OR MR. MIMS, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, WE'VE GOT ISSUES GOING ON WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOCIAL DISTANCING, LIMITED SEATING, CAPACITY. WHAT ELSE ARE WE DOING AT THE SUNRISE? I KNOW SHARON TALKED ABOUT RENTALS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, TOO, IN OUR MEETINGS, SO ARE WE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH RENTALS OR HAVING AN ISSUE MORE WITH VENUES COMING TO

THE SUNRISE? >> IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THE SUNRISE THEATER IS JUST EXPERIENCING A SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTY DUE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE ISSUE OF THE CORONAVIRUS. FOLKS ARE VERY CAUTIOUS AND HESITANT ABOUT GOING TO PERFORMANCES RIGHT NOW. OUR THRESHOLD DOES NOT PRODUCE A SUSTAINING EVENT. RENTALS ARE MOSTLY SELF-SUSTAINING, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A VERY POSITIVE OUTLOOK AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR DIRECTOR. I THINK SHARON ENGEL HAS DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB IN THE LIGHT AND IN THE WAKE OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WORLDWIDE.

UNFORTUNATELY IT IS HAVING A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON OUR OPERATION. AND THESE ARE ISSUES OUTSIDE OF HER CONTROL. AND SHE'S BEEN TRYING. SHE'S BEEN REACHING OUT. SHE'S BEEN TRYING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CIRCUITS AN DIFFERENT LOCAL PERFORMERS AND THE RENTALS ARE OUR BEST BET RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STRUGGLE AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE OF ORGANIZATION THAT IS GOING TO LESSEN OUR FINANCIAL EXPOSE YOUR AND LESSEN OUR RISK GOING FORWARD. THAT IS OUR CURRENT REALITY.

>> OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THAT TOUGH CONVERSATION, WE HAVE HAD IT MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE YEARS. IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT THOUGH, IT IS EVEN A BIGGER HEARTBURN ISSUE, LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, COMPARING WHAT WE SHOULD -- WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR LIMITED RESOURCES AND WHAT DO WE DO FROM HERE? BECAUSE THOSE TWO NUMBERS, WHEN YOU COMPARE THOSE TWO NUMBERS, REVENUE VERSUS EXPENSE.

>> VERY, VERY COMPELLING. >> IT IS. AND MAYBE IT IS JUST TIME FOR US TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO JUST SLOW IT DOWN OR STOP IT RIGHT THIS SECOND, LET'S REEVALUATE AND LOOK AT THE RENTAL. MR. MIMS JUST TOLD US THAT WE CAN MAYBE STRIKE A BALANCE WHEN THERE'S FOLKS COMING IN TO RENT THE FACILITY AS A VENUE FOR WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING. IF IT STRIKE A BREAK EVEN POINT FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH HOWEVER WE TURN THE LIGHTS ON AND THE AIR-CONDITIONING AND WE COVER THE CLEANING COST.

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WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO HAVE THE FACILITY IN OUR POSSESSION. WE HAVE TO GET THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR ASSET. WE KNOW THAT THE VENUE OPTION. WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS AND LOSING CASH AND LIEUING MONEY. JUST WANTED TO

OPEN UP THAT DISCUSSION POINT. >> I THINK WE ALL HAVE DO. YOU HAVE ONE ENTITY THAT'S CAUSING PROBLEMS THAT MAKE TAKE DOWN A COUPLE OF ENTITIES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO BE ABLE DO SO. IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF HER STAFF AND THIS HAS HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS IDENTIFIED THAT AND BUILDING OF DOLLARS THAT ARE PUT INTO SOME FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT GRANT THAT SHE'S VERY HOPEFUL ON BEING ABLE TO GET. SINCE IT IT ISN'T A PROBLEM THAT IS CAUSED BY STAFF, THE FUNCTION, OR THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'M READY TO PULL THAT TRIGGER. IF WE PUT SUNRISE THEATERS ON MOG BALLS OR DO SOMETHING ELSE MAYBE WITH A

THIRD PARTY. >> GO DARK.

>> GO DARK DARK. YOU CAN'T TURN ON THE LIGHTS ONE DAY AND GET BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE. THIS HAS TAKEN MANY, MANY YEARS OF THIS COMMUNITY. IT HAS REACHED ACROSS THE OCEAN TO TO THE OTHER CONTINENT TO BRING FOLKS IN HERE. I'M NOT ITCHY ON THE TRIGGER. I DO SEE IT IN THERE I WILL ADMIT THAT'S A VERY REAL OPTION. I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE AS AN OWNER OF A BUSINESS, BUSINESSES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. YOU GOT TO COPY THAT THING ROLLING. EVEN WHEN IT LOOKS BLEAK. YOU DO WHATEVER YOU CAN. WHEN IT DOES COME BACK. WHEN THE ECONOMY COMES BACK AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOMES AND WANT TO GO TO VENUES AND ENTERTAINMENT. WHEN THE ACTS ARE GOING TO A THEATER LIKE THE SUNRISE. IF WE'RE AT 50% CAPACITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET COSTS. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE SUNRISE. I THINK IT IS TIME TO COME UP WITH A PLAN B, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

MAKE SURE WE CAN GET TO THAT NEXT RUNNING WITHOUT US

OVERREACTING. >> SURE AND SHARON MADE A GOOD POINT WITH THE SAFE OUR STAGES FUNDING THAT COULD COME. IF IT DOES COME, OKAY. RIGHT ON THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT IS STILL A SHOT IN THE ARM. TO BE ABLE TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN TO SELL TICKET THE. WE JUST HAVE TO EVALUATE AT THIS POINT. I'M AT THE POINT WHERE I NEED TO EVALUATE, IS THAT THE RIGHT MODE OF OPERATION. DO WE WAIT A COUPLE MORE MONTHS OR EXSPLOE EXPLORE THE PLAN B OPTIONS. WHAT'S THE DOWN SIDE IF WE DON'T DO IT. I KNOW WHAT THE DOWN SIDE IS. IT IS RIGHT THERE. IT IS WRITTEN IN RED. WHAT'S THE DOWN SIDE IF WE DO IT. IS THERE A DOWN SIDE. THERE'S A DOWN SIDE IF WE DON'T DO IT. WE'RE SEEING IT. WHAT'S THE DOWN SIDE IF WE DO IT. JUST ANNOUNCE THAT

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THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING. FOLKS AREN'T READY TO GET OUT AND DO THINGS EITHER. THEY ARE NOT READY. THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION ARE OLDER THAN ME. PROBABLY OLDER THAN ALL OF US UP

HERE. MAYBE NOT. >> I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THIS CONVERSATION. I'M LOOKING AT YOU.

>> DON'T DIG ANY MORE HOLES. >> NO, IT IS NOT A NEGATIVE

THING. THAT'S THE TRUTH. >> THEY HAVE DISCRETIONARY CAN

IN, THEY ARE RETIRED. WHATEVER. >> COULD I INTERRUPT HERE?

>> SURE. >> JUST ASK, MS. MORRIS, YOU CAN APPLY FOR THIS GRANT IN; IS THAT RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. >> WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET IT IN APRIL BUT WE CAN APPLY FOR IT IN APRIL.

>> SHE SAID THE NOTIFICATION OF AWARD SHOULD COME BY THE END OF APRIL. WE SHOULD KNOW BY THE END OF APRIL IF WE ARE AWARDED.

BY THE END OF APRIL, SHE WOULD WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE AWARDED OR HOW MUCH WE WOULD BE AWARDED. IT IS ALL A BIG IF AND

WISH RIGHT NOW. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I'M JUST BLINDLY SUPPORTING SUNRISE. REGARDLESS WE SHOULD FOLLOW OUR GUT ON THIS ONE AND GO THROUGH A PLAN B. GET READY FOR IT. WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN. WE CAN DO WHAT WE THINK WITH THE COMMUNITY GOING ON. WE'LL PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE TALENT THAT'S OUT OF THERE AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AND MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. IF WE DO GO DARK, I'M SORRY. IF WE DO GO DARK TO MAKE IT IN THE LIGHT AGAIN. IT WOULD TAKE YEARS, THERE'S A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF BUY IN. IF WE COULD AVOID THAT, I WOULD DO ANYTHING

I COULD TO AVOID THAT PROCESS. >> MADAM MAYOR, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO WHAT I SEE BEFORE ME IS A FIRST QUARTER FISCAL. SO THIS IS A QUARTER IN THE YEAR ALREADY. SO WE'RE NOW IN ALMOST THE END OF FEBRUARY. SO WE HAVE GOT TWO MONTHS NOW INTO THE SECOND FISCAL QUARTER. AS A BUSINESS PERSON. I TEND TO LOOK AT, HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW IN REALITY.

THEN WHAT HAS BEEN TRANSPIRING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS IS STARTING TO BALANCE. AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS ALWAYS A TOUGH DECISION. BUT AT SOME POINT YOU REALIZE, OKAY, ONE QUARTER IS IN THE BOOK. WE'RE 2/3 A WAYS THROUGH THIS SECOND QUARTER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SEE BEFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN OF PRESERVING THE WHOLE SHIP AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT. WHERE WE ARE. COMMISSIONER PERONA, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A PLAN. THE PLAN WOULD HOPEFULLY BE AND I'M OPEN TO HEARING A PLAN OR DEVELOPING A PLAN. BUT I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT IF WE GO DARK. IF WE WENT DARK AND IT WENT FOR TWO MONTHS AND THE MONEY CAME FROM DC, I DON'T SEE THAT MUCH AS A SETBACK PER SE AS OF, OKAY, TWO MONTHS WENT DARK, WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING AND LET GET BACK TO IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN TO MOVE IT FORWARD. BUT TO CONTINUE TO GO, KNOWING THAT WE'RE ON A TWO MONTH FISCAL ALREADY. TWO MONTHS ALREADY LOOKING AT THIS, AND NOW WE'RE JUST WAITING ON ONE MORE MONTH TO COME IN AND THE PROJECTIONS OF THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR THAT. AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT. AND YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT IF WE

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WENT DARK, IT IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PLAY AS OPPOSED TO OWNING THE PLACE, INSURANCE AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT RUNNING IS. WE KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL IS, 350 FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, PER SE. SO WE KNOW WE HAVE TO MEET THAT. THAT IS COMPOUNDING TO THIS AND CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. SOMEHOW FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WOULD -- DURING THE TIMES WE'RE IN, HOW DO WE BEGIN TO CLOSE THAT GAP. THAT'S OF SERIOUS CONCERN TO ME.

WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE AN ENTIRE CITY WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS MOVING HERE. IT IS TOUGH. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE IS GOING ON. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WILL BE ASKED TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY QUITE FRANKLY AND THAT'S A SERIOUS CONCERN. ONE OF WHICH I WOULD RATHER TRY TO DUST OFF THE COB WEBS AND GET THE GENERATOR GOING AND THE AIR-CONDITIONER GOING.

WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE TO SHORE UP ANOTHER PART OF OUR CITY AND WE'RE UNABLE TO DO IT. I'M NOT CLOSING THE BOOK WE HAVE TWO MONTHS IN ON THIS FISCAL. MS. MORRIS IS TLG ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND FROM THE TWO MONTHS WE'RE SEEING, AS FAR AS TRACTION, TRAJECTORY OF THESE NUMBERS FOR EXPENSES?

>> EXPENSES ARE WHAT THEY ARE PRETTY STEADY ON TARGET, HOWEVER

THE REVENUE IS NOT MATCHING. >> OKAY.

>> THAT. >> OKAY.

>> BUT TWO MONTHS, RIGHT, COMING INTO IT?

>> CORRECT. >> SO IT IS NOT GOING TO BE MUCH

MORE THAN 96 -- >> RIGHT. IT WILL BE MORE THAN THE 96, BUT THE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE MORE AS WELL. SO IT

IS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE SAME. >> IT WILL BE THE SAME.

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS THAT I'VE HEARD, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT I HEARD IT CORRECTLY.

ONE IS THE THEATER HAS TO BE ACTIVE AND OPEN TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT. NUMBER 2 IS ONCE YOU TAKE THE MONEY, YOU COMMIT TO THREE YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT. SO MAKE SURE WHEN WE CONTEMPLATE THIS WHOLE THING, WE KNOW THIS. THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE PLAN READY TO GO FOR US TO MAKE THAT DECISION. IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION, YOU ACCEPT THE MILLION DOLLARS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS OUT THERE, WE HAVE THEN TAKEN THAT OFF THE TABLE FOR THREE YEARS, OR WE'RE REPAYING A

MILLION DOLLAR GRANT. >> SO TO THAT POINT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALCULATE AND CAN YOU COME BACK TO TELL US WHAT THAT EXPENSE LOOKS LIKE, HOW MUCH MORE RUNWAY DO WE HAVE? LET'S TAKE AND MODEL OUT WHAT COMMISSIONER PERONA HAS JUST MENTION M -- MENTIONED. WE LOOK AT THE EXPENSES AND WE LOOK AT THE REVENUES AND THEN WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE OPEN. SO NOW WE HAVE TO TRY TO FORECAST HOW MUCH MORE RUN WAY DO WE HAVE TO GO DOWN, WAITING ON THIS PERHAPS MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S THE QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, COMMISSIONERS, ARE WE WILLING TO BANK IT ALL ON THAT RUNWAY AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FURTHER THAT RUN WAY IS TO GET ENOUGH LIFT TO GET OFF THE GROUND AND WE MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH LIFT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. FOR ME, I NEED TO SEE THAT. I'M LOOKING AT THAT POINT. IF YOU'RE TELLING ME TO TRY TO GET TO APRIL FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM APRIL ON, HOW MUCH MORE RUNWAY DO I HAVE TO GO DOWN.

AND AM I WILLING DO THAT? BECAUSE I'M TAKING. TO BUILD THAT RUNWAY. I'M LITERALLY BUILDING A RUN WAY AS I GO AND I'M TAKING FUNDS FROM SOMETHING ELSE TO BUILD A RUNWAY AS I GO HOPING I CAN GET THE PLANE OFF THE GROUND.

>> I'LL WORK WITH MANAGEMENT ON THAT. BECAUSE HERE IS THE THING. I'M LOOKING AT -- I CAN BUILD A MODEL BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE TAKEN AND THE EXPENSES THAT HAVE OCCURRED. BASED ON WHAT THOSE SHOWS AND THE PROJECTION OF THOSE SHOWS, MANAGEMENT HANDLES THAT, I DON'T SEE THAT ASPECT OF IT. I'M JUST TELLING YOU BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE, I CAN WORK WITH HER, TO GET WHAT PROJECTS AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE GENERATED FROM THOSE SHOWS.

THERE ARE EXPENSES THAT RELATE TO THOSE SHOWS AS WELL, ON TOP OF THE HARD COST THAT WE HAVE. AND SO, AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT IT, THE TRANSFER THAT WE'RE DOING FROM FPRA WILL COVER ALL OF OUR HARD COSTS, THAT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE THAT I'M CONTEMPLATING. WE HAVE BUILT IN A TRANSFER TO COVER THAT AND GIVEN A LITTLE LEEWAY. A LITTLE CUSHION TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE OTHER OPERATIONS. SO IT IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHATEVER SHOWS THAT ARE OUT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S THE LONG RANGE OR WHAT

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RENTALS OR WHAT SHOWS OR ANYTHING. AS FAR AS THE REVENU GENERATION AND THEN THE EXPENSES THAT GO ALONG WITH THOSE SHOWS

AS WELL. SO.... >> I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK

AT IT. >> QUICKLY.

>> I AGREE. >> REAL QUICK.

>> MR. MIMS, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE?

>> YES, MA'AM, DEFINITELY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, AS FAR AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASPECT WE ARE 100% BEHIND THE SUNRISE THEATER REMAINING OPEN FOR YEARS TO COME. THE SUNRISE THEATER IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE AND A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IF OUR DOWNTOWN FOR A REGIONAL CAPACITY. WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, WE NEED TO REDUCE OUR RISK EXPOSURE, THAT'S THE ISSUE. WE CAN NOT PUT OUR OPERA OPERATIONAL EXPENSES IN JEOPARDY TO FUND A NONESSENTIAL OPERATION. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I THINK WE WILL HAVE A MUCH CLEARER PICTURE BY THE END OF APRIL. I BELIEVE WE ALL NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A VERY CLEAR DECISION AS TO HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, NOW I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT THIS OFF. BUT WE MET WITH EACH OF YOU, AND WHICH WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TO PRESERVE THE OPERATION OF OUR CITY. I'M ALL FOR THE SUNRISE, WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

>> SO WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I THINK WE ASKED THE QUESTION, THEN, TOO. IF WE ARE OPEN AND PRAYING, WHAT IS THE BASE RATE? 60,000 PER MONTH. WHICH IS 720 A YEAR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASE RATE FOR JUST KEEPING THE BUILDING IN OUR OWNERSHIP AND TURNING THE LIGHTS ON AND OFF IS $30,000 PER MONTH. HE'S TALKING ABOUT RISKS. AN RFQ AND RFP TYPE OF SITUATION. WE HAVE OPERATORS IN THOSE WHAT MAKES THIS ONE DIFFERENT. FOR ME, I'M LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL REPORT RAND I'M SAYING MAYBE I JUST HAVE TO CHANGE THE FORMULA A LITTLE BIT AFTER WE LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, LIKE THE COMMISSIONER IS TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A SUNRISE. AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WHEN DO WE TAKE OPERATIONAL OWNERSHIP? IT IS NOT LIKE WE'RE 50 YEARS INTO THIS. YES, IT HAS BEEN AROUND 400 YEARS. US AS A CITY OPERATING THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH EXPERIENCE IN DOING THIS. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE DOING A BAD JOB, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE THEATER BUSINESS DOES. WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THE SHOT IN THE ARM, WE CONTINUE TO REINVEST AND INVEST OUR CRA FUNDS INTO THIS. GOOD FOR US. YEA FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. THERE'S A FORMULA THAT SAYS THEATERS DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. CONTINUE TO USE THAT. MAYBE WE JUST HAVE TO MANIPULATE AND MOLD OUR FORMULA IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO

I'M GAME FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> SO I THINK WE NEED -- WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE PLANS IN PLACE, AND IDEAS FOR -- AND MOVE QUICKLY, BECAUSE THAT RED IS JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING.

IT IS GOING TO KEEP GROWING. THE NEXT CONFERENCE AGENDA OR EVEN A MEETING ON ITS OWN. WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS, WHATEVER. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE OUR PLAN, OUR THOUGHTS ALL CEMENTED WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

>> WE ALL CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. WE MOVE AS FAST AS YOU CAN MOVE WITH THE STAFF AND WITH THE TIMING IN MIND WITH MS. MORRIS AND SHARON ENGEL AND YOU KNOW, BROADWAY THEATER IS

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TOTALLY SHOT DOWN. >> I THINK WE NEED TO DEDICATE OURSELVES TO THAT. THIS DISCUSSION, I BASICALLY HEARD THE SAME THING FROM EVERYBODY HERE. BUT WE'RE ALL SAYING IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE CAUTIOUS ON THIS. EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THING AND WE'LL BUILD CURTIS JOHNSON'S RUN WAY:

>> THAT RUNWAY IS GOING TO TAKE A MEETING ON ITS OWN

>> MAYBE NOT EVEN A RUN WAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST POINTED OUT, MAYBE WE LOOK AT THE MODEL DIFFERENTLY. MAYBE IT IS TIME WE LOOK AT ANOTHE SOURCE OF BRINGING IN AND HELPING US GET THIS PLANE OFF THE GROUND.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS, IF WE HAVE EVER ENTERTAINED THAT. IT MAY BE THE TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE TO HELP US WITH THIS LIFT.

>> I THINK THERE ARE CITIES IN FLORIDA THAT IS HAVE THAT SAME MODEL. ONE OF THEM COULD BE PENS COLA. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO MUCH MORE NEWS DO YOU HAVE FOR US.

>> YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL. >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANT TO

GIVE YOU ANY MORE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT YOU TO EITHER. WE'RE ON TARGET WITH THOSE AS WELL. IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS, THAT'S MY REPORT FOR THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEM. COMMISSIONER PERONA. JUST FOR A COMMENT, BUT IT WILL BE 11B. I WAS REQUESTING TO GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON 11H WHICH IS STREET SWEEPING. STREET SWEEPING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM AND OUR LAGOON CLEAN. IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD PROCESS IF IT GETS PROVED TONIGHT. TO CONTRACT OUT THESE SERVICES, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO

SAY. >> ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU MAKING A

MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST. >> YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

YOU WANT TO PULL 11B. >> I PULLED IT FOR COMMENT. BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL IT COMES UP. I WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT ALSO.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER.

>> SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND TO REMOVE THE MAJORITY OF

THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR B. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSION JAY JOHNSON. YES,

[b. Approval of a lease between the City of Fort Pierce and the Sunrise Humane Society for the lease of the animal shelter located at 100 Savannah Road, for a term of one (1) year with four (4) automatic renewals.]

MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA. YES,

MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER HUDSON. YES,

MA'AM. >> RELEASE OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER LIKED AT 100 SAVANNAH ROAD FOR A TERM OF ONE YEAR WITH FOUR

AUTOMATIC RENEWALS. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE HEARD A PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T THINK I HAVE MET HER FACE TO FACE, I'VE HEARD REMEMBER REPUTATION PROBABLY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THIS IS THE OTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME. I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PERSON WITH REPUTATION, WITH ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROV PROVIDED THE W THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED.

PART OF IT JUST A LARGE PART OFFING HAVE A HUMANE SOCIETY AND PROMOTING THAT. THE EDUCATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES. I COULDN'T LET THAT GO THROUGH WITHOUT THANKING YOU AND AND THANKING YOU. I HAVE NOT FELT THIS GOOD ABOUT SOME COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE DONE IN A LONG, LONG TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY. EVEN ALL OF MY FOLKS OUT THERE THAT DON'T LIKE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY EVER DOES.

THEY LIKE YOU. >> OH, DEAR.

>> MIKIE ON THE CEREAL COMMERCIAL AND HE LIKES IT. I'M DATING MYSELF, I KNOW AGAIN. THIS IS A GREAT THING GOING ON.

I CAN SEE A LONG FUTURE GOING FORWARD. THE CITIZENS OFCOMMUN REALLY WINNING IN THIS. PLUS IT IS ANIMALS, BUT THE CITIZENS ARE

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REALLY WINNING IN THIS ONE. I CAN'T WAIT TO GET GOING ON IT.

IT IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. EVER DOLLAR GOES TO SOMETHING THAT ASSISTS THE COMMUNITY, ASSISTS THE ANIMALS, I FEEL REALLY, REALLY GOOD AND THIS THING IS SOMETHING THAT'S HERE FOR A LONG TIME. THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR GOLD STARS THAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THANK YOU.

>> WOW, THAT'S GREAT. I LIKE THAT.

>> YEAH. I NORMALLY DON'T LIKE ANYTHING.

>> I JUST WANT PD TO -- WANTED TO ADD, TOO, THAT I'M VERY PLEASED AND I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY LOOKING FINE, AND SAW DR.

KIDHAMS WAS THERE WITH THEIR MOBILE TRAILER AND THE VOLUNTEERS WERE ST. LUCIE PART-TIME WORKERS WERE THERE.

IT WAS -- IT WAS REALLY REFRESHING TO SEE AND -- SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS, TOO. COUNCIL WOMAN FROM THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE REACH THE OUT TO ME AND SAID -- TRIED -- WELL, SHARED WITH ME SOME FIGURES ABOUT SOME THINGS SHE WAS SURPRISED AT WHEN THEY STARTED WITH THEIR ANIMAL SHELTER AND SOME OF THE COSTS WERE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE. SO I'M REAL PLEASED THAT WE'RE AT THE FEE THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. THE MONTHLY FEE? AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PARTNERSHIP AND BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE AND COMMITTED PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO WORK WITH US. SO I'LL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MO MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON.

[a. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for Site Plan and Design Review submitted by property owner, FLF Crossroads Industrial I LLC and Representative Schmidt Nichols, to construct a warehouse development that will be approximately 1,133,000 square feet in size on a property located within the Crossroads Industrial Park in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned Commercial Parkway Zone (CP-1). Parcel ID: 2325-122-0002-000-3.]

COMMISSIONER PERONA >> YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER

HUDSON. >> SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER INDUSTRIAL 1LLC AND REPRESENTATIVE SCHMIDT NICHOLS CON STRUCK A WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE 1 MILLION 133 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET IN SIDE ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CROSS ROADS INDUSTRIAL PARK IN FORT PIERCE,

FLORIDA. IT IS ZONED CP1. >> MR. SWEENEY.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH A LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI JUDICIAL ROLL WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY. THE COMMISSION PASSES WALL AND ESTABLISHING POLICY. WHEN ACTING AS QUASI BODY IT IS HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS, LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT MORE FORMAL THAN A NORMAL COMMISSION PROCEEDINGS. THEY MUST FOLLOW STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE ON COMPETENT EVIDENCE. THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES FOR QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE

FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MADAM CLERK, HAS THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENT BEEN

MET? >> YES, THE ADVERTISING

REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN MET. >> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON, HAVE

YOU HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. APPLICANT AND

EDC. >> THAT WAS COMMISSIONER C

JOHNSON'S AS WELL. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MEETING WITH THE EDC. AND MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES?

>> SURE. WOULD ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

>> I DO. >> THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW WITH DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE CROSSROADS INDUSTRIAL PARK EAST OF THE FORD TURNPIKE AND SOUTH OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD. FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PROPERTY IS GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH A ZONING OF CP1 COMMERCIAL PARKWAY, THE REQUEST IS FOR A DEVELOPMENT AND APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. 126 OF THE CITY CODE. IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH AND

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WELL FAIR. THIS SITE PLAN WAS BROUGHT TO YOU IN TWO DIFFERENT SITE PLAN OPTIONS. AND IT IS GOING -- AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IS BASED ON WHAT AN END USER WILL BE USED FOR THE

PROPERTY. >> THE FIRST SITE PLAN IS A ONE BUILDING SITE PLAN. 1 MILLION 33 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. 314 SPACES FOR TRAILER PARKING. WATER FEATURES AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT TO THE SOUTH. NUMBER 2 WILL BE 536 CAR PARK SPACES. 314 SPACES FOR TRAILER PARKING. IT WILL INCLUDE THREE WAKES FOR WATER FEETERS AND THE PRESS SERVATION OF CONSERVATION TO THE SOUTH. IT WILL CONSIST OF 587 TREES.

96 PALM TREES. THIS IS A RENDERING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LACK LIKE UPON COMPLETION. THE PLANNING BOARD LEFT THEIR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 9TH AND VOTED 7-0. THERE'S A MODIFICATION TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT. THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR THREE CONDITIONS, THIS MODIFICATION IS FOR ONE CANNED TWO STAFF SUGGESTIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. SO THE ONE STAFFEN CONDITION IS THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING. THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE AREAS NOT UTILIZED FOR BAY DOORS AND LIGHTING. DETAILS AT THE LIGHTING FOR REVIEW. THE TWO SUGGESTIONS FROM STAFF. ONE CAME FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THE APPLICANT SHALL UPGRADE THE TRIP AND LEVEL AS PART OF WHAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED. IF DISCREPANCIES ARE PROTECTED THE UPDATED STUDY SHOULD PROVIDE MITIGATION MEASURES IF NEEDED.

IT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO ST. LUCIE COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW.

WITHIN THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT EASEMENT WITH EITHER SFWMD OR THE PROPERTY OWNER. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSION ARE TO APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW. THE PLANNING BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVAL. OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. >> THE TWO CONDITIONS, BRANDON, THAT YOU HAD ON THERE. ANY OBJECTIONS IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT. THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS A TIME AND EXPENSE TYPE

THING. >> WE TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE PERFECTLY FINE WITH THE TWO CONDITIONS BEING REVERTED TO SUGGESTIONS. ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT AND MYSELF HAD A HAND IN JOINTLY DRAFTING CONDITION NUMBER ONE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMFORTABLE TO THE APPLICANT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

>> I DID HAVE ONE MORE, SORRY. >> YES. THE TWO OPTIONS THERE.

DID THE PARKING CHANGE BY 100 PARKING STALLS OR SO.

>> YES. >> WHY?

>> SO THE ONE BUILDING IS GOING TO OCCUPY MORE OF THE SITE. SO WHEN IT GETS SPLIT INTO TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR SOME MORE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. IT IS NOT EXACTLY GOING TO BE ONE MILLION 133,000 SQUARE FEET. IT IS AROUND 1 MILLION 36 SQUARE FEET.

>> IT IS LESS. >> TWO BUILDINGS IS LESS, BUT

MORE PARKING >> SO THERE WILL BE ROOM FOR PARKING. NOW THEY CAN ADD PARKING.

>> AND IS THAT BY CALCULATION OR BY REQUEST AND DESIGN.

>> THAT'S BY CALCULATION. THEY ARE ACTUALLY OVERPARKED FOR THEIR SITE BASED ON THE INTERNATIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S GUIDE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AND THEY CAN ADDRESS

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP AND HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, PLEASE. IDENTIFY

YOURSELF. >> GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. JOSH NICKOLS FOR THE RECORD.

>> WELCOME. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> NO, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR HOW QUICKLY THEY GOT US THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. GOOD,

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GOOD. SO HE'S GOING TO OPERATE THIS PRESENTATION FOR YOU, IS

THAT IT? >> YES.

>> SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. >> HE WAS SWORN IN.

>> HE WAS SWORN IN. DO WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION?

>> YOU COULD. >> I JUST PUT IT ON THE DRIVE,

YES. >> MAKE SURE TO SHARE IT AND SAVE IT SO I HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, AGAIN, BRANDON DID A GREAT JOB WITH GOING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE PLAN AND THE PROPOSAL. SO I'LL MORE FOCUS ON THE SILVERMAN GROUP AND YOUR BUSINESS MOVING FORWARD. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE. I'M A LAND PLANNER OUT OF WEST PALM BEACH AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF SILVERMAN GROUPS PROJECTS, THEY ARE OUT OF NEW JERSEY. NEXT SLIDE. TODAY WE HAVE THE EDC. ST. LUCIE EDC HAS BEEN ACCOMMODATING AND HELPFUL THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

PEAT WILL GO OVER SOME OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS. THIS IS A COMPANY PROFILE, SILVERMAN. THEY OWN AND OPERATE ABOUT 19 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, INDUSTRIAL, AND RETAIL WITHIN 15 STATES. FIVE MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CENTRAL. 4,000 MULTI FAMILY UNIONS AND FOLKS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HELP MAINTAIN THESE PROPERTIES. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE THE SITE LOCATION IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO SILVERMAN AND SO IMPORTANT TO DISTRIBUTORS, WAREHOUSING COMPANIES AND THE LIKE AND WHY WE FEEL THIS IS SUCH A STRATEGIC LOCATION. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT ARCHITECTURE IS THE SAME ARC TENTHURE. WHAT I THINK IS NICE THAT YOU DON'T TYPICALLY SEE ON AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING IS THAT GLAZING AT THE SECOND STORY. WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT FROM I-95 AND THE TURNPIKE WILL BE THE GLAZING AT THE UPPER FLOOR. YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGE IN MATERIAL. SOME OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE AGAIN. IN CHARLOTTE AND CONNECTICUT. THEY UNDERSTAND THIS PRODUCT. THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TENANT'S NEEDS ARE. SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, YOU MAY RECOGNIZE ONE OR TWO OF THESE. SOME SMALL BUSINESSES THAT YOU HAVE HEARD OF MAYBE. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE 1.13 MILLION SQUARE FEET. WE HAVE GOT TWO ACCESS POINTS, ONE CENTRALIZED WHERE WE HAVE A ROUNDABOUT THAT COMES IN TO PROVIDE EASE OF ACCESS FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING FOR THE WORKERS AND THE TRUCKS TO COME INTO THE LOADING AREAS, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW.

GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ON THE SPLIT VIEW, OR I GUESS, THE TWO BUILDINGS IS BECAUSE IT DOES REDUCE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE. LET'S NOT JUST LEAVE IT TO NOTHING SPACE. LET'S PUT SOME PARKING IN THERE. THERE COULD BE OFFICES ON BOTH SIDES. LIKE THE BIG BUILDING, THERE IS OFFICE SPACE ON BOTH SIDES. THIS WOULD BE THE SAME SCENARIO.

>> IN THEORY TWO TENANTS ON BOTH SIDE. THIS WOULD PROVIDE THAT PARKING FOR THEM. KIND OF A VIEW FROM NORTH AND SOUTH. NEED TO SEE IT FROM BOTH WAY AS AND WHAT'S SURROUNDING IT AND THE CAPACITY ASPECT. THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION. YOU DO SEE THE SOUTHERN 47 ACRES HAVE TO REMAIN IN CONSERVATION AND WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH THE AIRBORNE MOUNTAIN BIKE CLUB THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ABLE TO STAY AND DO WHAT THEY DO. WE HAVE TALKED TOT SOUTH FLORIDA WATER PROJECT. THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND THEY HAVE GOOD WORKING RAPPORT AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE FOLKS.

AS AN AVID MOUNTAIN BIKER, I DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY EITHER.

NEXT SLIDE >> I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MR.

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TESH UP. NICE PRESENTATION. REGARDING MOBILITY ON THE ISLAND. PEOPLE ARE DRIVING 15 MILES AN HOUR ALREADY.

>> I WISH THEY WERE ON BENNY. THANK YOU.

>> ANOTHER ENCOURAGING PIECE OF NEWS. OUR DAUGHTER IS A COSTUME DESIGNER AND SHE WORKS IN THE LARGEST THEATER IN CHICAGO. THE GOODMAN THEETSER -- THEATER AND THEY ARE THINKING THEY MAY GO

BACK IN JULY. >> OH, YEAH.

>> SOME NEWS THAT YOU COULD USE. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOING TO THE XHK ANALYSIS. A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND WE ALSO THANK THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE STAFF. JENNIFER HOFMEISTER AND BRANDON HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. WE HAVE DONE AN IMPACT ANALYSIS OF THIS GREAT PROJECT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS WE HAVE QUALITY SUSTAINABLE JOBS COMING TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

JILL IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, SHE'S VP OF BUSINESS EXPANSION AND RETENTION. SHE DID THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE SILVERMAN GROUP ON PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND HELPING COORDINATE THIS EXCELLENT JOB CREATOR TO OUR COMMUNITY. JUST VERY BRIEFLY ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND ANALYSIS. THIS IS DONE WITH THE IN PLAN MODEL.

THIS IS YOUR BASIC INPUT, OUTPUT, KIND OF METRIC MODELLING SYSTEM WITH MULTIPLIERS BUILT IN SPECIFICALLY FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY. 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET. ROUGHLY $60 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMET. AND WE HAVE USED THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY SURVEY WITH A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF ONE JOB PER 1500 PER SQUARE FEET. SO THE IMPACT MODEL LOOKS AT TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE FIRST AND ONE TIME CONSTRUCTION IMPACT. AND TO BUILD A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING LIKE THIS WOULD PROBABLY TAKE 650 JOBS. WE LOOK AT DIRECT, INDIRECT AND INDUCED FACTORS OF THE IMPACT MODEL THAT WOULD CREATE 853 JOBS BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE TOTAL ECONOMIC OUTPUT OF 8.9, $89.9 MILLION. SO JUST VERY BRIEFLY ON THE DIRECT, DIRECT IS THE ACTUAL JOBS THAT ARE CREATED AND THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

INDIRECT IS THE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS THAT OCCUR BECAUSE OF THE SELLING OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES RELATED TO THE PROJECT. INDUCED IS THE RESIDUAL INCOME THAT'S CREATED BY ADDITIONAL PURCHASING POWER AND DISCRETIONARY CONSUMER SPENDING THAT RESULTS IN THAT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE HAVE THE FLOW MONEY. THE CREATION OF WEALTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, GOING BACK TO THE PROJECT. THE CONSERVATIVE NUMBER OF 755 JOBS. DIRECT, INDIRECT, INDUCED TOTAL 2700 JOBS. AND THEN LOOKING AT PAYROLL OF $82.2 MILLION.

ANNUALLY RECURRING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR A TOTAL OUTPUT

OF 450 MILLION. >> SO AT LEAST AS YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GUY AND PRESIDENT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, WE'RE JUST ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED THAT SILVERMAN GROUP HAS FOUND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AS JILL CAN ATTEST TO. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INVENTORY. SO INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND FACILITIES TO ACCOMMODATE NEW GROWTH JUST ISN'T THERE. IN FACT. CON TENDER BOATS TOOK THE LAST BUILDING THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. THE OLD INDIAN RIVER PACKER BUILDING. WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE LARGE FACILITIES, EITHER 500,000 OR A MILLION. AND SOME OF THOSE NOT VERY KNOWN COMPANIES THAT SILVERMAN GROUP WORKS WITH. AS JOSH MENTIONED, WE WOULD LOVE TO ATTRACT THEM TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WITH THAT, I'LL STOP. MADAM MAYOR AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF

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THE COMMISSION, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SELLING YOUR WAY OUT OF A JOB THERE,

PETE. >> WELL, COMMISSIONER, SINCE WE'RE BOTH CHRONOLOGICALLY GIFTED AND MANY OF US DON'T HAVE MUCH DO EXCEPT WALK DOWN THE GREAT SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, ON A1A ON OCEAN AVENUE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO WORK MYSELF OUT OF A JOB. I COULD HELP THE MAYOR --

>> THAT WAS MY WAY TO SAY GOOD JOB.

>> YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> JUST A COMMENT.

>> OKAY. >> WHEN I LEARNED OF THIS IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, IT FURTHER AMPLIFIED HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY. AND I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH, PETE FOR YOU, FLESHING THIS OUT AND BRINGING IT FORWARD. I REALLY HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY REALIZES THIS AND THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO LABOR OF BUILDING THE ACTUAL SITE. WE HAVE A LOT OF GIFTED LABORERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS WORK. AND THE END PRODUCT OF THE JOBS BEING THERE I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT. I WOULD JUST MAYBE LIKE TO IMPLORE AS BEST WE CAN. WE FIND A WAY TO KIND OF CAPTURE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO FORT PIERCE.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF OUR STORY THAT WE FURTHER CELEBRATE AND RECOGNIZE THAT WORKING WITH THE LABORER, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AS A BUILDER. HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT OF FORT PIERCE CAME AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THIS. AND HOW MANY PEOPLE FURTHER EMPLOYED. I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT IN PUBLIC. I KNOW WE DON'T PROBABLY TRACK THAT. AS BEST WE CAN TO GET AN IDEA. WE NEED THAT AND I WANT THAT FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE AND RECOGNIZE A MILLION SQUARE FEET COMING TO FORT PIERCE. WHAT SOME OF THOSE NO NAME SMALL NAME COMPANIES WE SAW PERHAPS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S J -- I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, AND IF WE CAN, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HELP GET THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT OUT THERE

FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> THAT'S DEFINITELY RIGHT ON TRACK COMMISSIONER. BECAUSE THAT'S THE SECOND QUESTION THAT WE GET FROM COMPANIES, AND THEY ASK US TO PROVE THE AVAILABILITY OF LABOR AND THE WILLINGNESS OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS TO COME WORK HERE. SO THAT'S AN ONGOING ACTIVE PURSUIT AND WE'LL NEED

YOUR HELP IN THAT REGARD. >>ALL HAVE -- YOU'LL HAVE MY HELP. ALL OF FORT PIERCE, THERE'S NEW JOBS COMING. LET'S SIGN UP FOR THEM AND GET THESE JOBS.

>> GOOD. I DON'T NEED TO WORK MYSELF OUT OF A JOB ANYWAY.

>> GET ANOTHER JOB >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ARE YOU

OKAY? >> I'M GOOD.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING TO US BEFORE I OPEN THIS UP FOR MORE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I'M DONE WITH MY PART OF THE PRESENTATION, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> IF WE DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, MAYBE WE WILL AFTERWARDS. DON'T GO AWAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? WHETHER YOU'RE SWORN IN OR NOT. OKAY.

I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND CLEAR UP ANYTHING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. IT IS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS BACK TO THE COMMISSION. THIS IS VERY, VERY

EXCITING FOR FORT PIERCE. >> MAYOR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I SECOND. >> WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 20-031 seeking a Future Land Use Map Amendment for three (3) properties generally located at or near 2107 Swain Road from Medium Density Residential (RM) to High Density Residential (RH) SECOND READING (Adoption Hearing)]

>> WELCOME TO FORT PIERCE. THE NEXT ITEM IS ORDINANCE 20-031.

THREE PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR SWEEN ROAD. RM TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS

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ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, FOR THE RECORD, BRAD CURRY WITH EDC. THE OTHER EDC. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I'M HERE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL

THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSION JOHNSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> YES, MA'AM.

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 20-032 rezoning three (3) properties generally located at or near 2107 Swain Road from Medium Density Residential (R-4) to High Density Residential (R-5). SECOND READING]

>> COMMISSIONER HUDSON. >> REZONING THREE PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2107 SWAIN ROAD FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, JOHNSON, PERONA, HUDSON.

[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-002 Amending Chapter 109 of the Code of Ordinances, Floodplain Management Ordinance. SECOND READING ]

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-002. AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA BY AMENDING CHAPTER 109 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ENTITLED FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND GRAULTAL SERVICES IN FLOOD HAZARD AREAS. PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS EVER ORDINANCES. AND THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION. SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, JOHNSON, PERONA, HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THE IPAD TIMED OUT ON ME.

NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION 21-R14, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY

[a. Resolution 21-R14 Accepting the proposal of Capital One Public Funding, LLC to refinance the City's $8,655,200 Stormwater Revenue Refunding Note Series 2016 and authorizing the execution and delivery of a Loan Agreement.]

OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL OF CAPITAL ONE FUNNING LLC NOT TO EXCEED $9 MILLION IN STORM WATER REFEREE FUNDING NOTE SERIES 2021. THE PROCEEDS OF WHICH WILL BE APPLIED TO PREPAY PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF THE CITY'S OUTSTANDING STORM WATER UTILITY SYSTEM REFUNDING NOTE.

AUTHORING THE EXECUTION OF THE LOAN AGREEMENT OF THE 2021 NOTE.

PROVIDING FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE CITY STORM WATER REVENUES. ALL IS AS PROVIDED IN THE LOAN AGREEMENT. AUTHORIZING THE OFFICIALS TO DO ANYTHING IN CONNECTION WITH THE LOAN AGREEMENT. THE 2021 NOTE AND THE SECURITY THEREFORE AND THE PREPAYMENT OF A PORTION OF THE 2016 NOTE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF OTHER DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE 2021 NOTE. AND PREPAYMENT OF A PORTION. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> I THINK THE RESOLUTION STATES IT ALL. THE GOOD THING IS THAT WE WILL BE SAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND IT IS IN LINE WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WHERE BY WE ARE REDUCING OUR DEBT AND FINDING WAYS TO OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY.

>> ALL RIGHTY. ANY DISCUSSION OR MOTION?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. COMMISSIONER PERONA, MAYOR

[b. Resolution 21-R15 appointing members to the Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board.]

HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> RESOLUTION 21-R15 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT TO MEMBERS OF THE SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD

AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> BEFORE WE START THIS IF I COULD. ARE YOU SITTING ON THE BOARD NOW?

>> I AM, BUT WE HAVE NOT MET. >> GO AHEAD.