Mar 02, 2021 Fort Pierce Utilities Authority

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>> THIS MEETING OF THE FT. PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITIES CALLED TO ORDER ON MARCH 2ND, 2021.

WE WOULD NOW STAND TO HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG.

>> THANK YOU. MADAM SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL TO DECLARE A QUORUM.

[A. SET THE AGENDA]

>> AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZE THE MOTION TO SETH

THE AGENDA. >> I WILL MOVE TO SET THE

AGENDA. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE WOULD SET THE AGENDA. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MADAM SECRETARY, CALL THE ROLL.

[B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 16TH, 2021. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MADAM SECRETARY, CALL THE ROLL.

[D. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

ANY LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION OR APPRECIATION?

>> NO. THERE'S NO LETTERS OF APPRECIATION AND NO OLD BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.

[G.1. Texas Outage Analysis – For Information Only]

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FILL YOU IN ON SINCE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE NEWS. AND REAL RELEVANT.

THE FIRST COLD WEATHER OUTAGES IN TEXAS AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT YOU SOME FACTUAL INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT HAPPENED THE DAY THE LIGHTS WENT OUT IN TEXAS.

IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF OPINIONS THAT GET INJECTED IN HERE. THEY ARE MINE AND MINE ALONE.

JUST PUT THAT LITTLE LEGAL DISCLAIMER OUT THERE.

SO WANT TO START BY TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BALANCE.

AND WHAT IT TAKINGS TO BALANCE AN ELECTRIC SYSTEM.

SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE WHEN YOU CAME AND WE TALKED. POWER SUPPLIES BASICALLY A THINK OF IT AS BIG BUCKET. IF THE POWER COMING IN EQUALS NOWER GOING OUT. YOU'RE GOOD.

IF THEY ARE OUT OF BALANCE WE RUN INTO PROBLEM.

ESPECIALLY THE POWER GOING OUT DOESN'T COME EQUAL WHAT THE POWER COMING IN, IS. LET'S TALK ABOUT FUEL DIVERSITY IN TEXAS. AS MOST OF YOU PROBABLY HEARD A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL GOVERNOR WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW ALL DUE TO RENEWABLE. RENEWABLE SHUTDOWN.

THAT'S PART OF IT. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM HERE.

RENEWABLES ARE ONLY ABOUT 25% OF THE TOTAL OUTPUT THAT TEXAS HAS. THE REST OF IT 75% IS ALL BY FOSSIL FUELS NATURAL GAS OR NUCLEAR.

THE UNDER 23% BIOMASS AND HYDRO.

THOSE ARE INCONSEQUENCETIAL. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. AS WE KNOW COLD WEATHER HIT TEXAS AROUND FEBRUARY 14TH, TEMPERATURES IN DALLAS DROPPED TO MINUS TWO WHICH BROKE 88-YEAR RECORD.

THE DEMAND FOR ELECTRICITY INCREASED.

WHY DO WE LOOK WHY THE DEMAND INCREASED.

ONE BEING IN SOUTHERN STATE OUR INDEPENDENCE LAIGS ISN'T AS GOOD WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE NORTHERN STATES AND THE LOT OF THE HEAT THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR HOMES IS ELECTRIC HEAT.

WHERE UP IN NORTHERN MIDWEST THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF GAS HEAT AND TEXAS A LOT OF ELECTRIC HEAT AND IT CREATES DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM. MULTIPLE AGAIN GENERATORS WERE

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POWER IN AND POWER OUT. A LOT OF GENERATORS GO OFF-LINE BECAUSE THE DEMAND IS LESS AND IT'S THE BEST TIME TO DO MAINTAINS. THERE'S ALSO SOME PRICE ESCALATION PRICE ISSUES AS FAR AS WHY SOME OF THE GENERATORS WERE OUT AS WELL. THE BIGGEST THING GENERATION COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND THAT WAS FALLING IN ON THE GRID ITSELF. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE BY THIS MAP YOU SEE THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS IN THE PINK AND THAT JUST MEANS IT'S COLD. SO WHAT HAPPENED.

WHAT DID THAT DO? IT RESULTED IN POWER OUTAGES.

THIS CHART HERE SHOWS ABOUT 3 AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE OUT OF POWER. AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER HALF A MILLION PEOPLE THAT WERE OUT OF POWER DUE TO THE STORMS THEMSELVES. IF YOU REMEMBER RIGHT IT WASN'T JUST COLD. IT ALSO PRECIPITATED IN SNOW.

ICE AND WIND. WHICH IS NEVER A GOOD COMBINATION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POWER LINES.

WHY DID THIS ALL HAPPEN? WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEMANDS OUT PACING THE GENERATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED AS WELL TOO WAS THE GRID WAS ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IF YOU CONTINUE TO INCREASE YOUR DEMAND OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE GENERATION, YOUR GENERATORS WILL START TRIPPING OFF-LINE AND SEQUENCE AND AS THEY CONTINUE TO TRIP OFF-LINE AND SEQUENCE PRETTY SOON YOU'RE IN THE DARK COMPLETELY AND THE WHOLE STATE WOULD BE OUT.

TEXAS SIMILAR TO FLORIDA. WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. THEY HAVE TIES WITH STATES AROUND THEM. HOWEVER IT'S VERY LIMITED ON THE AMOUNT OF SUPPLY AND STUFF THAT THEY CAN BRING IN.

SOME OF THE ISSUE THEY HAD THEIR GENERATION WAS NOT EQUIPPED TO RUN IN THESE TYPE OF TEMPERATURES.

A LOT OF IT THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE WIND TURBANS WEREN'T BLOWING. THEY WERE NEVER WINTERIZED.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OR NOT INSTALLED WITH THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED. THINK OF IT AS ANTIFREEZE FOR YOUR CAR. PUT IN WATER TO KEEP IT COOL.

ANTIFREEZE IS BETTER BECAUSE IT WON'T FREEZE ITSELF.

UP IN THE MIDWEST AND IN THE NORTH AND IN THE DAKOTAS WIND TURBANS CONTINUE TO RUN FINE WITHOUT PROBLEMS. THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO TYPES OF TURBANS. THEY HAD SOME CONTROLS INSIDE THE PLANTS THEMSELVES START FREEZING UP.

WHICH TAKE A LOT TO FREEZE UP WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE THE POWER PLAN BECAUSE IT GENERATE A LOT OF HEAT.

THERE'S OUTSIDE CONTROLS AS WELL TOO THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED. THEY DON'T HAVE HEAT TRACING WHICH KEEPS THE PIPES WARM. THAT CAUSED PROBLEMS AS WELL.

THEY ALSO HAD SOME NATURAL GAS PIPELINE ISSUES.

NATURAL GAS ITSELF DIDN'T FREEZE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD.

THE CONTROL VALVES AND SOME OF THE COMPRESSORS AND STUFF INSIDE OF THE PIPELINE THEMSELVES FROZE UP.

FUEL COST, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT FUEL COST SUPPLY AND DEMAND. WE KNOW HOW THAT WORK.

LOOK WHAT OUR GASOLINE PRICES ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S PARTLY DUE TO THE REFINERIES AND STUFF BEING DOWN IN TEXAS. NORMALLY THEIR NORMAL COST PER RESIDENT IS TEN CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR.

THEY SHOT UP TO 9 A KILOWATT HOUR.

THINK ABOUT GETTING THAT BILL. THERE WAS ONE LADY THAT I HEARD ON THE NEWS. HER NORMAL MONTH BILL ABOUT 2-300 A MONTH FOR ELECTRIC BILL.

IN TWO-WEEK PERIOD SHE GOT A BILL FOR 1300.

AND THE UTILITY WAS AT MATCALLY WITHDRAWN THAT AMOUNT. I'M NOT PAYING THAT UNTIL SOMETHING IS DONE. THEY ALSO INVESTIGATING SOME OF THAT AS WELL. WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A SECOND AS WELL. AROUND THE GRID OPERATOR, THE OVERSEERER OF EVERYTHING ISSUED MANDATORY BLACKOUTS.

ROLLING BLACKOUTS. TO PROTECT THE ENTRIED.

AS WE SAID BEFORE IF THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.

THE GRID WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED AND IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN FROM WEEKS TO MONTHS TO RESTORE ALL THAT POWER.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU DO LOSE THAT MUCH POWER, YOU JUST CAN'T FLIP THE SWITCH AND TURN IT BACK ON. IT HAS TO BE STRATEGICALLY STAGED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T BLOW ANYTHING UP.

ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT TOO IS YOU LOOK AT THROUGH UNTIL YOU GET A BIGGER STRAW TO RUN THE WATER THROUGH A FIRE HOSE. ONCE AGAIN IT'S ALL ABOUT BALANCING THAT BUCKET. SOME OF THE OVERSIGHT WE LOOK AT. WE TALKED ABOUT URCOT.

THE MANAGER SCHEDULE POWER THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN BUY

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WE WENT OFF-LINE, BECAUSE THE CONTROL ISSUES OR WHATEVER.

THEN THEY NEVER CAME BACK ON. ERCOT BOARD MADE UP OF DIVERSE GROUP OF BOARD MEMBERS. YOU HAVE INVESTOR-OWNED UTILITY. MUNICIPALS, CO-OPS, INDEPENDENT POWER PRODUCER. THOSE WHO THROW GENERATORS TO PRODUCE INTO THE GRID. THEY ALSO HAD NONAFFILIATED BOARD MEMBERS. AND THE NONAFFILIATED BOARD MEMBERS FIVE OF THEM HAVE WHICH RESIGNED DIDN'T RESIDE IN THE STATE. CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING OVERSIGHT BOARD THAT MAKES DECISIONS IN STATE WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF STATE. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE OPINION THINGS WE CAN JUST DISREGARD THAT ONE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS HAS DONE SO FAR HE TOLD THE TEXAS PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION TO SUSPEND DISCONNECTS AS THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO THIS PROBLEM.

TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOINGABLE.

AND THERE'S SO FAR MULTIPLE LAULTS FROM CONSUMERS, UTILITY, SUPPLIERS, YOU NAME IT THERE'S ANOTHER MORE LAWSUIT PENDING THE OUTCOME OF ALL OF THIS.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS?

>> WELL, THE THING THAT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED IN TEXAS.

THIS HAPPENED IN 2011. WHERE STORM ROLLED THROUGH AND KNOCKED OFF THE BUNCH OF POWER PLANTS AND THEY STARTED TO HAVE TO DO ROLLING BLACKOUTS AS WELL.

2014 THEY HAD SIMILAR SITUATION NOT AS BAD.

COLD SNAP COME THROUGH. THEY HAD SOME OF THE SAME THING. THEY FORCED PLANTS LAUF LINE AND THEY STARTED RUNNING INTO SUPPLY VERSES DEMAND.

POWER IN VERSES POWER OUT. THERE'S INVESTIGATION GOING ON, ON ERCOT AND THEIR OVERSIGHT AND WHAT THEY CAN DO AND DIDN'T DO ACCORDING TO RULES AND REGULATION.

I CAN GUARANTEE THERE'S GOING BE CHANGES TO ERCOT AND THE WAY THE BOARD HAS OVERSIGHT OF WHAT HAPPENS.

REGULATORY AGENCY, FEDERALMENT GOVERNING MAKING SURE THERE WAS PRICE GOUGING. THAT THE GAS SUPPLY WASN'T RESTRICTED TO THE DRIVE UP PRICING.

THE ONE REFRNS HAD TO DO WITH ENRON.

THAT'S WHAT GOT ENRON IN TROUBLE.

THEY WERE LIMITED SUPPLY TO CREATE THE HIGHER DEMAND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT SPINNING RESERVES.

TEXAS HAS A LOW SPINNING RESERVES.

2 TO 5% IS WHAT I WAS READING. IT'S A AGAINATION UN-ITALIAN THAT'S ONLINE BUT UNLOADED. I CAN RESPONT QUICKLY.

IF YOU HAVE 100 MEGAWAT GENERATOR AT 90%, IT HAS 10 MEGAWAT SPINNING RESERVE. IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH FOR THE PLANT OPERATORS IF THEY HAD ENOUGH FUEL TO TURN THAT GENERATOR UP TO GET THE TEN MEGAWATS.

THAT'S 10% SPINNING RESERVE MARGIN.

TEXAS HAS 2 TO 5% SPINNING RESERVES AND THEN ALSO THINK ABOUT THEIR IF ALL THE WIND SHUTS OFF.

NOW YOU DON'T HAVE BACK UP FOR THAT GENERATION.

HOW WAS FLORIDA. HOW DOES THIS EFFECT FLORIDA AND HOW ARE WE. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP HERE FLORIDA IS SIMILAR TO TEXAS. WE HAVE VERY LIMITED TO PROVIDE POWER INTO THE STATE. IF YOU SEE THERE'S FOUR LINE COMING FROM THE NORTH. THAT'S NOT A LOT OF PIE LINES COMING TO POWER THE ENTIRE STATE.

THAT'S ONE OF IS WAYS THAT WE ARE SIMILAR TO TEXAS.

FLORIDA HAS THAT THAT MEANS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PICK UP IF A GENERATOR TRIPS OFF-LINE. LET'S JUST SAY THEY TRIP OFF-LINE THERE'S OTHER GENERATORS THAT HAVE THE SPINNING RESERVE AVAILABILITY TO PICK UP THAT LOAD AND BALANCING AUTHORITY WOULD DO THAT AS WELL TOO.

CURRENTLY AS WE TALKED ABOUT. TEXAS ONLY HAS -- I'M SORRY.

CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE 2% RENEWABLE IN THE STATE THAT IS GROWING. WE'RE CAUTIOUS TO MAKE SURE IF WE PUT MORE RENEWABLES IN THERE THERE'S MORE INFORMATION FOR THAT AS WELL. LET'S SAY THE CLOUD CAME OVER IF ENTIRE STATE. WE WOULD PICK UP WHATEVER

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THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE FOR BACKUP RENEWABLE ENERGY. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, TOO, THAT FLORIDA IS NOT EXEMPT FROM HAVING THIS HAPPEN.

AND SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER. I DON'T.

IT WASN'T IN THE STATE AT THAT TIME.

IN CHRISTMAS OF 1989, THEY HAD A COLD SPELL THAT CAME DOWN INTO FLORIDA. SOME OF THE TEMPERATURE I SAW FORT LAUDERDALE AT 30 PEGS. MIAMI WAS 31.

WEST PALM WAS 28 AND TALLAHASSEE WAS 11.

THINK ABOUT IT. THINK ABILITY WHEN IT'S 50 DEGREES HERE PEOPLE TURN ON THEIR HEAT.

IF IT'S THAT COLD PEOPLE WILL TURN ON HEAT AND IT WILL BE ON FOR A WHILE. WE ALSO HAD THE SAME TYPE OF ISSUE GENERATORS BEING OFF-LINE DURING THE WINTER MONTHS. THE SUPPLY WAS UNDER WHAT THE DEMAND. THE DEMAND OUTBASED MRI AND WE CAN INSTITUTE ROLLING BLACKOUTS.

IT WASN'T AS SEVERE AS TEXAS WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY HAD TO BRING THE CUSTOMERS BACK IN.

MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 24 HOURS FOR SOME TO BE ABLE TO BROUGHT BACK ON.

>> WITH THAT IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY BOARD MEMBERS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE STATE.

I'M ASSUMING A LOT MORE DEMAND.

IS OUR STATE READY FOR THAT? >> AND IS FT. PIERCE

UTILITIES. >> I AM READY.

FORT PIERCE UTILITIES IS READY.

OUR TOTAL LOAD RIGHT NOW ABOUT 100 MEGAWATS.

IN OUR SUBSTATIONS THEMSELVES WE DOUBLE THAT CAPACITY.

WE HAVE THE CAPACITY THAT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, AMERICA, RESIDENTIAL. FT. PIERCE IS READY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A LOT OF BUILD OUT AND MAKE SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE A LOT OF PLANNING GOES INTO THAT.

EVERY YEAR FMPA GETS WITH THE MEMBERS AND DOES A LOAD STUDY.

JUST TO SEE WHAT ARE WE PROJECTING FOR LOAD GROWTH.

WHERE IS THE STATE QUESTIONING.

COWE IT'S TO BALANCE THE LOAD. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING WITH DO WE NEED ADDITIONAL GENERATION.

CAN WE GET AWAY WITH MAYBE SOME TYPE OF DEMAND SIDE MANAGE. CAN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE THEIR ADMINISTRATION EFFICIENT GOING TO ENERGY UNFORTUNATELY BUILDING STANDARD. WE CONTINUE TO LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A SHORTFALL.

THE BALANCING AUTHORITY WOULD HAVE THE PLAN FOR ENERGIES.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S SCRAMBLE A LITTLE BIT BUT THEY'VE GOT THE RESERVE AT THEIR FINGERPRINTS TO SAY YOU NEED TO BE UP TO 1 HOURDZ YOU NEED TO BE UP 100% IN AN HOUR DEPENDING ON THE GENERATION YOU'VE GOT.

>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. OUR BIGGEST CONCERN ARE USUALLY HURRICANES. VERSES COLD.

I 19, I REALIZE WE DO HAVE COLD ONCE IN A WHILE BEEN -- DO HURRICANES HAVE THE SAME KIND EFFECT ON POWER?

LOW DUCKION? >> THEY HAVE THE SAME EFFECT ON POWER PRODUCTION. NUCLEAR PLANT.

>> NUCLEAR PLANT. YOU CAN THINK OF NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION. THEY WILL HAVE SO MANY REGULATIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE COULD IMAGINE FOR NEW TREASURE COAST ENERGY CENTER WE'RE PREPARED'S THEY HAVE A STORM PLAN SIMILAR TO USTILLITS NAY IS EVERYTHING LOCKED DOWN AND READY TO GO. ONE THING WHEN THE WIND GET ABOVE 35 TO 40 MILES PER HOUR. THEY HAVE TO SHUT THE PLANT DOWN. THEY SHUT DOWN THERE BUT ANOTHER PLANT IN THE STATE PUPS UP THAT LOAD GOING FORWARD. ONE THING LESS SAY WE HALF OUR SYSTEM GET KNOCKED OFF. EL WITH CAN'T JUST TURN A SWITCH AND PICK IT BACK ON IF WE HAD TO WE WOULD WORK WITH THE BALANCING AUTHORITY TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS GENERATION SABL. ONE OF IF THINGS DO WE HAVE A ROLLING BLACK OUT PLAN. WE DO.

WE HAVE REVIEWED WE MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE BEEN CAN

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>> TEXAS IS DEREGULATED BY REGULATED BY ERCOT.

WASN'T THAT PROPOSAL FOR BALLOT INITIATIVE THAT WOULD HAVE MIRRORED WHAT HAS IN FLORIDA THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO

THE BALLOT? >> THAT'S FAIL I-IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT'S IT'S COME UP.

IT'S ALL ABOUT SALES. IF YOU HAVE A GENERATOR, MAYOR, I CAN SELL YOU POWER FOR 8 CENTS.

AND FPLA CHARGES 10 CENTS. SOUNDS GOOD UNTIL YOU READ THE BOTTOM INLOOCHLT THEY HAVE ABILITY TO INCREASE CRATE.

THERE'S A LONG LOST. >> THEY PROMOTED IT AS CHOICE AND FREE MARKET. BUT IN EFFECT IT HAD ADVERSE EFFECTS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

>> DEFINITELY. IT DID.

IT DEFINITELY DID. THAT'S WHY THE REAL BIG PUSH

NOT TO REDEGREERATE STATE. >> RIGHT EARLY IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT SOME AGAIN RATERS WAS OUT THAT WAS BE -- THEY HAD TAKEN THE THEM OFF-LINE TO MAINTAIN THEM OR

SOMETHING? >>.

. >> HAPPENS WHEN YOU NORMALLY YOUR PLANT OPERATORS WILL LOOK AT HISTORICALLY WHAT YOUR LLOYDS ARE. AND THEY PLAN THOSE OUTAGES AROUND THE LOADS. BUT THEY ALSO WILL SCHEDULE THOSE AT LEAST IN FLORIDA WITH THE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PLANT THAT CAN PICK UP OUR ROAD. AS LEANNE GOMEZ WILL NORMALLY PLAN FOR TWO OR THREE-WEEK OUTAGE BUT GET IT DONE IN HE KNOWS THE PRIORITY TO GET THE PLANT BACK ON LINE FOR THE

SYSTEM AS WELL AS FOR FMPA. >> THEY HAD THAT OUT AND THEN THE COLD TOOK SOME OTHERS OUT. IT KIND OF COMPOUNDED THE PROBLEM. P IT'S A WORGS SITUATION WITH COLD THAN WE HAVE IN FLORIDA IN A SURE KAREN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DIE OF THE HEAT. NECESSARILY, BUT YOU COULD FREEZE TO DEATH. YOU COULD DIE.

LOOERN I THINK IN TERMS OF HUMAN COST.

>> DEFINITELY. AND MY WIFE HAD MADE THAT COMMENT. SHE GOES, YOU KNOW, I MUCH RATHER LOSE MY POURER IN SUMMER IN FLORIDA THAN IN THE DEAD OF WINTER IN THE MIDWEST. P THAT'S WIFRN OF THE A BUY DIED H HOPE YOI THUNDERSTORMA. THEY FAMILY SUING EVERYONE AND ANYONE THEY CAN ERCOT. SUING THE STATE, SUING THE GENERATORS COMPANY. ALL THE WAYNE STAY WARM UP.

IF YOU PEOPLE WERE BURNING THEIR WOODS TO STAY WARM.

PEOPLE WERE IN THEIR CARS TO STAY WARM.

THERE WAS ONE PICTURE OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY GRILLING OUT TO SITTING AROUND THE GRILL TRYING TO STAY WARM AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. YOU DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING. I HAVE CONCERN WITH WHAT I HEARD. KIND OF RECOMMENDATION OR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO, TWO OR THREES

BACK? >> THEY ACTUALLY IN 2011 AND 2014 THEY HAD SIMILAR SITUATION.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE RECENTLY TOO.

I DIDN'T FIND THAT INFORMATION.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WIND STOPPED BLOWING AND THEY HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO GET GENERATION BACK ONLINE BECAUSE ALL THE

WINDMILL WENT OFF. >> MET ME ADD A COUPLE OF ITEMS. MY PERCEPTION UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS MY MARKET STRUCTURE PROBLEM.

THERE'S A PERFECT STORM HERE IN TERMS OF THE WIND TURBINES NOT WORKING BECAUSE IT WAS SO COLD.

GAS SUPPLY BEING HURT BY FROZEN REGULATORS AND FROZEN VALVES. BUT IT'S A MARKET STRUCTURE PROBLEM IN THAT UNREGULATED PARK WHEN WE CONSIDER TO HAVE ACCESS POWER. THEY CAN'T SELL IT.

THERE'S NO POINT IN KEEPING IT UP-TO-DATE.

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WE'RES NOT IN THAT SITUATION. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE INTERESTING. GAS PRICES HAVE SPIKED BUT WE WERE VERY FORLTNATEN HERE IN FLORIDA WE DID NOT HAVE TO GAS ON THE SPOT MARKET. SPOT MARKET PRICE WAS EXTREMELY HIGH. WE DID WELL THERE.

MOST OF OUR GAS BOUGHT BEFORE THE END -- BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH. WHICH DON'T HAVE TO BUY A LOT OF GAS ON THE SPOT MARKET. THE OTHER WE LOOKED AT FMPA, WE HAD GENERATION MEETING LAST WEEK.

AND TALKED ABILITY HEY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HERE. WE DID COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ISSUE SINCE MOST OF OUR GENERATION COMES FROM NATURAL GAS THAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE A COMPRESSOR STATION BLOWUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALONG THE WAY. AND MOST OF OUR UNITS HAVE DUAL FUEL CAPABILITY. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT SINCE WE DON'T USE IT VERY OFTEN, WE NEED TO TEST A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN. I THINK THEY WILL WORK ON A PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TESTING THE DUAL FUEL CAPABILITY A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN.

I THINK THAT WILL -- AT LEAST FOR THE NATURAL GAS PROBLEM.

>> >> COULD I ASK ONE MORE QUESTIONS. THE BOARD MEMBERS O OUT OF STATE DID THEY HAVE CONNECTION WITH ANYTHING IN THE STATE.

WAS IT A CORPORATION. WERE THEY CORPORATE MEMBERS.

THEY WERE JUST ON THE BOARD. UNAFFILIATED BOARD MEMBERS.

IS WAY THAT IT WAS DESCRIBED ON THE WEB SITE.

SOME IN ILLINOIS. NEW ENGLAND, COUPLE OTHER ONES AS WELL. THERE'S ANOTHER SOUTHEAST POWER POLE THAT RUNS UP OKLAHOMA AND NEBRASKA.

THEY HAD SIMILAR ISSUE BUT WERE ABLE TO COMPENSATE.

THEY HAD TO DO ROLLING BACKOUT.

BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO BALANCE IT QUICKER BECAUSE THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO IMPORTANT POWER FROM OTHER UTILITIES.

NEBRASKA SPENT THE ENTIRE ALL FUEL BILL IN TWO WEEKS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF LAWSUITS.

A LOT OF STUFF COMING UP SHORTLY.

A LOT OF CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE REALLY, REALLY HI, BILLS.

>> YOUR TITLE REMINDS ME OF GEORGIA.

BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GEORGIA. AREN'T THEY BUILDING A NUCLEAR

PLANT IN GEORGIA? >> THERE'S ONE THAT'S STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I THINK IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE.

I THINK THEY ARE ABOUT TO LOAD FUEL IN NOT TOO DISTANCE FUTURE. THAT'S A GIANT PLANT WITH A

GIANT PRICE TAG. >> I THINK IT'S UP TO 6 OR 8 BILLION DOLLARS. GREAT TO HAVE THE PLANT IF THERE'S NO ROADWAY TO GET INTO THE STATE, THEN IT KIND OF PUTS YOU AT DISADVANTAGE. SIMILAR TO PUERTO RICO WHEN THEY LOST THEIR GENERATION. COMPLETE ISLAND WAS DOWN UNTIL THEY GOT THE GENERATION BACK UP.

IT'S AN ISLAND ITSELF. >> MY FINAL QUESTION WOULD THE RATE PAYERS BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THE STIMULUS PACKAGE.

>> I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'VE THOUGHT THAT FAR IN ADVANCE

YET. >> I KNOW IT'S UP IN THE FEDERAL LEVEL. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABILIT -- ABOUT BEFORE.

[INAUDIBLE] MY OPINION THEY WANT TO BE THE CROWNING STAR ON EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT

AND DO THING THEMSELVES. >> THAT WOULD BE MY PERSONAL OPINION AS FAR AS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT THEY DON'T HELP ME,KY DO IT MYSELF.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOUR KIDS. THEY ALL WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT AND DO IT THEMSELVES AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY LEARN THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR HELP.

>> THE SURROUNDING STATE WERE STRUGGLING AS WELL.

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU MENTION NEBRASKA AND KANSAS. AREN'T THEY ACCUSTOMED TO THIS

>> THEY ARE.? - BUT IT HAD TO DO ALSO WITH D ICE STORM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT CAME THROUGH THE AREA.

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IT'S EXTREMELY COLD FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

WHEN YOU ARE THAT COLD FOR A WHILE.

YOU THINK ABOUT IT DOWN HERE IN FLORIDA YOU COULD PROBABLY LAST ONE DAY IN THE 50S. TWO OR THREE DAYS IN THE 50S, START THINKING ABOUT TURNING THAT SWITCH ON TO PUT HEAT IN

THE HOUSE. >> THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THEM RESTRUCTURING AND CHANGING THE METHOL OF ERCOT OR GETTING RID OF DEREGULARIZATION.

>> TEXAS SENATE GRILLED THE CEO OF ERCOT FOR 6 AND A HALF SOME OF THESE SAME QUESTIONS. WHY DIDN'T YOU DO YOUR JOB? DO YOU FEEL IS YOUR OBLIGATION? I'M SURE THERE'S MORE TO COME ABOUT WHAT THEY WILL DO.

I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THEY REEVALUATE THE WAY THEY DEREGULATE AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE ON SOME

OF THE GENERATORS IN TEXAS. >> THEY ALSO SAID THE HEARING MAY GO ON THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE ANYTHING QUICK.

>> I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THEY GOT CALLED TO WASHINGTON

AS WELL. >> IT WOULD BE NICE TO KEEP US ON UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. TOCK P.M. NEXT.

[G.2. Oldsmar Water Treatment Event – For Information Only]

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AT HIGH LEVEL.

TRY TO PREVENT TOO MUCH INFORMATION LOOKING OUT TO BASICALLY GIVE THEM IDEAS HOW TO GET INTO OUR OWN SYSTEM.

I DON'T WANT TO CHALLENGE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT WOULD WANT TO GET INTO OUR SYSTEM EITHER.

ING ON FEBRUARY 5TH ON FRIDAY. FEBRUARY 5TH AROUND 8:00 IN THE MORNING. UNLAWFUL INTRUSION OCCURRED.

IT WAS NOT PHYSICAL BUT CYBER. THEY CAME THROUGH REMOTE CONTROLLED SOFTWARE. TEAM YEAR IS USUALLY USED TO SUPPORT COLLABORATION BASICALLY ASSIST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD ON THIS WAS SET UP FOR UNINTENDED USE. SOMEONE CAN CONNECT INTO THE COMPUTERS WITHOUT ANYONE ACTUALLY BE THERING.

THIS WAS USEFUL ESPECIALLY WITH COVID GOING ON AT THE TIME. BASICALLY PEOPLE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE COMPUTER SYSTEM.

SEE WHAT'S ON THERE. DO THEIR NORMAL WORK.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY TIED DIRECTLY TO INTERNET.

NO SECONDARY SECURITY ON IT. THE PASSWORD WAS VERY SIMPLE.

EASY TO CRACK. AND OVERALL THIS ALLOWED THEM TO GET INTO MULTIPLE MACHINES. THIS WASN'T JUST A SINGLE MACHINE. THEY GOT INTO THE CONTROL SYSTEM BUT THEY ACTUALLY GOT INTO MULTIPLE MACHINES FINALLY FOUND THE RIGHT MACHINE TO ACTUALLY HAD ACCESS TO THE CONTROL SYSTEM TO MODIFY BASICALLY THE SODIUM HYDROXIDE. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND CHANGE THE SODIUM HYDROXIDE LEVEL FROM 100 MILLION TO 11,000, 100 PARTS PER MILLION.

OPERATOR ON DUTY AT THE TIME WAS ABLE TO SEE THE MOUSE MOVE AT FIRST THOUGHT IT'S ANOTHER EMPLOYEE CONNECTING IN.

AND JUST KIND OF IGNORED THEN AS SOON AS THE PERSON GOING INTO ACTUAL CONTROL SYSTEM MAKING THE MODIFICATIONS, THE PERSON ACTUALLY REACTED QUICKLY.

NOW THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS A PERSON THAT THEY KNOW? IS IT STATE ACTOR? THEY DON'T KNOW AT THIS PRESENT POINT. A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION BASED OFF OF PUBLIC INFORMATION WE HAVE.

THERE'S BASICALLY CONTINUE ONGOING INVESTIGATION OF THIS AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO TRY TO FIND INFORMATION OF HOW THEY ACTUALLY GOT IN. WAS IT BY ACCIDENT.

WAS IT WHAT THEY CALL ZERO DAY ATTACK.

A LOT WILL COME OUT LATER DOWN THE ROAD.

AT THIS POINT THEY LOOK AS ONE POSSIBILITY AS SOMEONE CAME IN, WHETHER A DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEE.

DOWN THE ROAD WE MAY FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SECURITY. >> THANK YOU -- MR. TOMPECK.

CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, AS HE SAID.

WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS.

WE ALSO HAVE PHYSICAL SECURITY AT THE PLANT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE WE HAVE 24/7.

THERE'S OPERATORS THERE 24! 7.

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ALSO WE HAVE SECURITY GATES AS ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT LIMIT THE ACCESS TO THE FACILITY. YOU CAN'T JUST DRIVE IN.

IF THE GATES ARE OPEN THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON.

AND THERE'S MANY PEOPLE MONITORING THE GATES.

ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERA THAGS MONITOR THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE. AND THAT'S MONITORED BY THE OPERATE THERE 24/7. THE WATER TREATMENT PROCESS IT'S CONTINUALLY MONITORED BY THE STAFF.

YES THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE SET POINT.

THEY CAN MONITOR WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT ON TOP O THAT. WE PULL OVER 150 MANUAL SAMPLES A DAY. OUR OPERATORS ARE OUT ON THE FACILITY PROPERTY UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME IN NORMAL DAY OF WORK IN 24-HOUR TIME PERIOD.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WE TAKE OUR WATER SAFETY AND OUR WATER QUALITY VERY SERIOUS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE. WATER USED FOR DIALYSIS MACHINES. FOR FOOD PROCESSING.

OF COURSE WE DRINK IT. IT'S SOMETHING WE PUT IN OUR BODY. MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY USE IT AT THE BREWERIES HERE LOCALLY. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE

COMMUNITY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE OPERATOR AND TO MY MAINTENANCE STAFF BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THEIR LICENSED THROUGH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. EVERY ONE OF THE OPERATORS ARE LICENSED. EVERY ONCE OF THE MAINTENANCE STAFF ARE LICENSED. IT'S NOT JUST SOMEONE THAT WE PULLED OFF THE STREET. THEY ARE VERY QUALIFIED TO BE WHERE THEY ARE. THEY ARE THERE FOR THAT REASON. THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

AND WE WILL GO BACK TO TOM. HE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE PROTECTED FROM OUTSIDE IN. AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET

INTO OUR SYSTEM. >> AGAIN, THIS IS HIGH-LEVEL.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT VERY TIGHT.

AND WE'RE NOT JUST SIMPLY PROTECTING THE WATER.

ELECTRIC, WATER, GAG AND THAT'S THE OPERATIONAL SIDE.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT. EMPLOYEE'S INFORMATION ON THE COMPUTERS. BUT BASICALLY WE'RE WORKING WITH MULTIPLE TEAMS. WHETHER IT'S WORKING CLOSE TO THE GROUPS OF THE WATER AND ELECTRIC.

ON THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, WE'RE ALL BASICALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM IS SECURE AND HAVING SECURE WE HOPEFULLY WILL MAINTAIN OPERATIONS ON IT.

WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE COMING IN -- GOING BACK OLDSMAR THE KID GOT IN BY LUCK. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM CONTINUE OPERATIONAL. WE CONSTANTLY DEDICATED TO KEEPING THE SYSTEM SECURE. AND PART OF THIS IS WE CONSTANTLY MONITOR IS SYSTEM. THE OLD SAYING CRIMINALS NEVER SLEEP. THIS EVEN BIGGER.

BECAUSE THIS THE WORLDWIDE. AND SO WE'RE DEALING WITH CRIMINALS THAT ARE IN CHINA, SWEDEN, FRANCE, SPAIN, GERMANY, YOU NAME IT THEY ARE ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

IT COULD BE A SMALL IZELAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC THEY TRY TO HACK INSIDE THE SYSTEMS. COULD BE YOUR DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEES WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT AGAINST OR DISGRUNTLED VENDORS.

IT COULD ALSO BE DOMESTICATED TERRORIST.

OR STATE ACTOR ACTUALLY PAID BY OTHER COUNTRIES TO HACK INTO SYSTEMS CAUSE CHAOS. THERE'S A LOT OF TIME THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE OF USABILITY AND SECURITY.

THERE'S A LETTER OF TIME WE HAVE TO MAKE TOUGHER AND HARDER FOR SECURITY AND SOMETIMES THAT CAUSES PROBLEMS. WE HAVE TO TWEAK IT TO ALLOW YOU IN. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. TWEAK IT AND MAKE IT MORE SECURE. WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT SEEING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW WE CAN DO IT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS MAKING SURE ALL OF THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS THIS. CONSTANTLY DO REGULAR CYBERSECURITY TRAINING. WHETHER IT'S GOING THROUGH E-MAILS. UNDERSTANDING WHAT COULD OCCUR AND CAN OCCUR. WORKING WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY ACTUALLY INSTALLING THIS.

WHAT VENDORS CAN COME IN. WHEN THE VENDORS CAN COME IN AND HAVE ACCESS. VENDOR MAY NEED TO COME INTO A CERTAIN ASPECT OF IT. WE GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THEM IN.

BUT ONLY LONG AS STAFF IS THERE TO MONITOR WHAT'S GOING

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BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING GOES INTO IT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THE STAFF THAT HAS TO GO TRAINING.

THROUGH LEVELS OF UNDERSTANDING CYBERSECURITY.

BUT THE IT STAFF. THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO LEARN BASICALLY HOW TO SECURE THE SYSTEM.

WHAT TO LOOK FOR. WHAT TO ACCEPT.

THIS COULD BE SOCIAL BASICALLY SKILLS WHERE SOMEONE CALLING UP AND SAYING THIS IS SO AND SO FROM SOME COMPANY.

NO YOU ARE NOT. BASIC QUESTION THAT.

OR VAR FYRING AND TWO LAYER VERIFICATION ON IT.

>> FFLA WE WORK CLOSE WITH THE FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS. AND THIS COULD BE, AGAIN, WITH FMPA, A LOT OF TIME WE GET A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM FBI, TO INDICATE THERE'S POSSIBLE ISSUE IN THE AREAS.

SOME OF THE TIME DEPENDING HOW THIS CAME OUT.

WE LOOK AND ANALYZE THE SYSTEM FOR THE SAME CONCEPTS WHAT WAS ATTACKED. IN THIS CASE, SINCE WE HEARD ABOUT IT. WE HAD FMPA CALLING US SAYING LOOK FOR THESE THINGS. TURN THESE THINGS OFF.

MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAMS RUNNING IN YOUR SYSTEM. AND WE'RE USUALLY HAVE POSSIBILITY ON IT IN TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE.

CRIMINALS NEVER SLEEP. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THERE AND TRYING TO INVESTIGATE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE. THESE ARE BASICALLY BEST PRACTICING. WE'RE LEN AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY GOT AROUND THINGS. WHAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE ON SECURING IT. TRYING TO MITIGATE IT AND MAKE SURE WE GET THE SIMILAR BACK UP AND RUNNING IF THEY ARE EVER HACKED INTO SYSTEM. IT'S BASICALLY IT'S A CAT-AND-MOUSE CONCEPT WHERE THEY ALWAYS LOOK HOW GET INTO THE SYSTEM. WE LOOK HOW TO PROTECT SYSTEMS. HIGH LEVEL OF I TRIED TO BASICALLY GIVE YOU IDEA WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT SYSTEM WHETHER WATER GAS ELECTRIC. I WILL TRY MY BEST TO ANSWER IT. BUT IF IT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS MORE DESCRIPTION I MAY HAVE TO DO IT OFF-LINE ON ONE

ON ONE. >> BOARDMENS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. HOW OFTEN DO YOU TEST YOUR

SECURE PROTOCOLS. >>

>> THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TO ANSWER.

WE TEST QUITE OFTEN. >> EARLY ON YOU SAID THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ENABLED BY THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WERE WORKING -- BECAUSE OF COVE IT FRNGS PEOPLE WERE WORKING

REMOTELY? >> I MEAN YOU SORT OF ALLUDED TO THAT. YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT.

YOU SPECULATED THAT. I JUST I'M ASKING YOU NOT FOR A DEFINITIVE ABOUT THAT. BUT WHEN WE WENT INTO THAT MODE AT FPUA. DID YOU THINK THAT THROUGH IN TERMS OF IF PEOPLE WERE WORKING FOR HOME AND TRYING TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM, WHERE THEIR SAFETY PROTOCOLS PUT IN

PLACE. >> AGAIN, THEY MAY HAVE THOUGHT IT AS THING BEFORE COVID.

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS.

>> I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW. I JUST WONDERED IF THAT WAS MORE OF A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE WORKING FROM HOME.

DEFINITELY A HIGH POSSIBILITY. AGAIN IT'S BASICALLY ALLOWING THEM TO ACCESS REMOTELY. CONTROL IT.

A LOT OF TIME ESPECIALLY IN THIS CASE OLSMAR SMALL AREA.

THE RESOURCES ARE SMALL. THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEMS. AGAIN, YOU HAD THAT HAPPEN HERE. I'M SAYING.

YOU WERE WORKING FROM HOME. I'M ASKING YOU.

DID YOU THINK THROUGH THAT IN TERMS OF WE COULD BE MORE

VULNERABLE. >> WE DEFINITELY THOUGHT THROUGH THAT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF LAYERS TO PROTECT THE SYSTEM. IT'S NOT A SINGLE LAYER.

WE SEPARATE THE OPERATIONAL SIDE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE

SIDE. >> THAT'S BEST PRACTICES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

DO YOU GET AN ALERT SYSTEM SOMEONE TAPPING IN?

>> WE GET ALERTS SO MANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.

WHETHER IT'S A SYSTEM THAT FAILED.

OR BASICALLY SOMETHING THAT'S QUESTIONABLE THAT MAY ALERT US ON IT. IT'S ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. WHAT TYPE OF ALERT IT IS.

WHO IS LOOKING AT IT. AND THE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS ARE STAFFED AT DIFFERENT PLACES.

WE WORK WITH THE AT THE TO SAY YOU GET THIS TYPE OF ALERT.

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US IF WE NEEDED TO. >> IT'S GETTING TO BE VERY LARGE. THERE'S JUST GETTING READY TO PUT THAT IN CURRICULUM TO GET A DEGREE IN CYBERSECURITY.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY BY NO MEANS.

THIS GOING TO GET BIGGER. AND ONE OF THE ARTICLESIST READING, FROM 2019 TO 2020 ACTUAL -- 2020-2021 GREW

ALMOST 24%. >> YOU MENTIONED WE'VE ASSIGNED DOG ONE OF OUR ITS FOLKS STRICTLY TO

CYBERSECURITY. >> IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE HAD TO DETERMINE THAT WE NEED IT.

IT'S JUST A LOT OF WORK TO MAINTAIN AND STAYING UP ON IT.

AGAIN OUR STAFF IS CONSTANTLY READING AND TWEAKING AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THE SECURE. A LOT OF TIME OUR PROJECT WERE -- GET THE THING TO WORK. NOW WE STAND BACK HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SURE AND GET IT TO WORK.

LIKE I SAID THAT BALANCE BETWEEN USABILITY AND

SECURITY. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, BOTH. >> THANK YOU.

[G.3. Status report on Electric Power Cost Adjustment (PCA) for January 2021 – For Information Only]

CHAIRMAN MATTHEWS AND BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE JANUARY POWER COST ADJUSTMENT AND UPDATED 12-MONTH PROJECTION THROUGH

JANUARY OF 2022. >> RECOVERING THE COST OF PURCHASE POWER THROUGH THE CUSTOMER BILLINGS.

POWER COST RECOVERED THAT ARE IN EXCESS OF OUR $79.52 BASE POWER COST ARE ACCUMULATE AND BACK TO THE CUSTOMER THROUGH PCA ADJUSTMENT. THIS WAS A DECREASE OF JUST ABOUT 48 CENTS. AS COMPARED THE PREVIOUS BILLING FROM FMPA. THEY EXPERIENCED UNDERRECOVERY OF POWER COST FROM THE CUSTOMER OF THE 359,000, BRINGING OUR OVERRECOVERY TO 3.5 MILLION AS OF JANUARY

31ST. >> THIS CHASHT TRACKS THE CUMULATIVE MONTHLY BALANCE OF OVER RECOVERY IN RELATION TO APPROVED POWER COST ADJUSTMENT LEVEL GOING BACK TO JANUARY OF 2019. AND PROJECTIONS FORWARD FOR 12 MONTHS TO JANUARY OF '22. PCA REPRESENTED BY THE DARKER BLUE LINE ON THE BOTTOM HERE. WITH THE LAST ADJUSTMENT IN NOVEMBER. PCA CURRENTLY NEGATIVE $8 FOR 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS. ON THE TOP OF THE CHART THE BLUE BAR REPRESENT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT.

ORANGE BAR WHAT WOULD BE IF PROJECTIONS ARE CORRECT.

THEY'VE BEEN PREPARED BY CONSULTANTS AND ARE BASED UPON DATA BY FMPA. SINCE DECEMBER -- SINCE DECEMBER'S FORECAST. THE ESTIMATE OF COST OF PURCHASE POWER FOR UPCOMING 12 MONTHS HAS DECREASED 4.8%.

IN THIS GRAPH WE CAN SEE COMPARISON OF 3 PROJECTION OF THE POWER COST RECOVERY TRENDING THROUGH JANUARY OF 2022. BASED UPON THE FORECAST FROM FMPA ALL THREE SCENARIO ARE VERY FAVORABLE.

THE GRAY LINE ON THE TOP HERE IS THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATION OF MAKING NO CHANGE TO THE PCA.

AND THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE MAKING NO CHANGE ON THE POWER COST RECOVERY OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

FOR COMPARISON WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SCENARIO WHICH INCLUDE POTENTIAL CHANGES IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS BOTH REPRESENT DECEASES BEGINNING IN JUNE WITH INCREASES COMING

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IF YOU RECALL WHEN THIS WAS LAST PRESENTED BACK IN DECEMBER THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE OVERRECOVERY WERE UP BY THE 4 MILLION DOLLAR MARK OR OVER.

THE CURRENT FORECAST WITH LOWER PURCHASE THE LOWER COST OF PURCHASE OF POWER 4.8% GAVE FPLA STABLE OUTLOOK MOVING FORWARD. IF YOU CAN -- YOU CAN SEE FROM ONE MONTH THE NEXT THE FLUCTUATIONS ARE CAN VERY GREATLY. AND WITH THREE MORE MONTHS COMING UNTIL THE SUMMER MONTHS, WE WOULD PREFER TO WAIT AND SEE. WE CONTINUE.

WE WILL ALWAYS EVALUATE THE PROJECTION AS WE RECEIVE FROM FMPA AND REPORT TO YOU. THE ITEMS PROVIDED HERE ARE THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION. BASED UPON ASSESSMENT IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF TO MAKE NO ADJUSTMENT TO PCA AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE ONE FOR MR. TOMPECK. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION IT'S INTERESTING TO HAVE THIS GIANT FREEZE IN TEXAS AND ALL THESE PLACES AND YET OUR COST OF POWER IS EXPECTED TO GO DOWN

BY 4.8%. >> THE GAS MARKET RECOVERED VERY, VERY QUICKLY. IN TERMS OF FUTURE PRICES.

WHAT DID HAPPEN AND I'M SURE MR. CRAWFORD WILL SHOW THIS IN ONE OF HIS PRESENTATIONS IT SUCKED ALL THE GAS OUT OF STORAGE. IT REALLY -- THE STORAGE WENT -- I THINK DOWN BILLION AND A HALF.

ABOUT A BILLION AND A HALF CUBIC FEET.

THEY DROPPED ABOUT 13% OF THEIR STORAGE IN LIKE TWO WEEKS. THAT'S WHERE IT WAS EFFECTED.

DIDN'T EFFECT THE FUTURE PRICES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

[G.4. Approve an overall 3.5% cost of living adjustment (COLA) for employees in the amount not to exceed $335,988 for Fiscal Year 2021, effective March 1, 2021.]

AND LOUISE WOLF WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES OF 3.5% TOTAL INCREASE.

LAST YEAR WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR '21 BUDGET WAS APPROVED, THERE WERE 575,979 DOLLARS WAS APPROVED FIRST LEVEL FOR THE INCREASES. WE HAVE DELAYED THOSE INCREASES DUE TO PANDEMIC. AND NOW WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE INCREASES BASED ON A 7-MONTH TIME PERIOD WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT TO BE PUT TOWARD THOSE INCREASES AT 335,988 DOLLARS. INCREASES WOULD NOT EXCEED THAT. THEY WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST. ALSO OUR COMPENSATION STUDY HAS SHONE THAT WE ARE SLIGHTLY BELOW ON BOTH OUR PAY GRADE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM BY 2%. WE WOULD INCREASE THOSE PAY GRADE MINUTES AND MAXES TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE.

WITH THE INDUSTRY. WE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB KEEPING UP -- KEEPING PACE WITH WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN THE QUALITY STAFF THAT WE NEED AS WE'VE JUST HEARD THE DISCUSSION OF THE DEMANDS PLACED ON EMPLOYEES FROM EVERYTHING FROM SAFETY TO TECHNOLOGY WITH LICENSED STAFF, A WHOLE HOST OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT MAKE UP OUR POPULATION IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT EVERYONE HAS WORKED EXTREMELY HARD THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC AND HAS DONE REMARKABLE JOB.

AS YOU KNOW FROM THE PAST WE ALSO WERE ISSUING HAD AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM. WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST DEFER THAT. THIS REDUCED AMOUNT OF BUDGETED MONEY FOR THE INCREASES RESULTED IN A MUCH SMALLER POOL THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED TO THE INCENTIVE.

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AND DEDICATE THOSE MONIES TO GIVING THE ACROSS-THE-BOARD INCREASE AT THE 3.5% IN ADDITION, OTHER INDUSTRIES SIMILAR INDUSTRIES THAT DID HAVE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS HAVE LIKEWISE DEFERRED THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM WITH MOST HAVING EMPLOYEES WORK TELE WORKING VERY DIFFICULT TO EVALUATE AND PUT THROUGH THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO THE LEVEL THAT IT SHOULD BE ADMINISTERED.

WE WOULD FOLLOW SUIT WITH THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT IS HAPPEN ALSO IS THAT IN 2020, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT VOTED BY THE CITIZENS OF FLORIDA TO INSTITUTE THE $15 MINIMUM WAGE.

TO BE IN PLACE BY 2026. SO FOR 2021.

THE NEW FLORIDA MINIMUM RATE IS $10 AN HOUR TO INCREASE BY A DOLLAR EACH YEAR TO GET UP TO THAT $15 AN HOUR BY 2026.

IN KEEPING PACE WITH OUR PAY GRADES, AND ENSURING THAT BY 2026. WHICH WILL WELL BE IN POSITION TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT $15 AERNT HOUR MINIMUM FLORIDA STARTING RATE. I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE TWO KIND OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. ONE THIS RAISE WOULD INCLUDE EVERYONE ACCEPT THE DIRECTOR. THEIR INCREASES SHOWN IN THE CHART ARE INCLUDED IN THAT TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED

$335,998. >> I'M TALKING TOTAL EMPLOYEE STAFF. IT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYONE

EXCEPT THE DIRECTOR; RIGHT? >> WE HAVE 3.5% HAS BEEN CALCULATED FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES BUT WE GO ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT FOR THE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES AND ATTORNEY SO WE PUT IN AN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T GO OVER THAT BUDGETED

AMOUNT. >> IF YOU WERE TO GRANT.

WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE BOARD SALARY INCREASES FOR EVERYBODY BUT THOSE TWO PEOPLE.

>> CORRECT. >> EXACTLY.

>> OKAY. THE OTHER CONCERN IS IT RETROACTIVE BACK TO WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE RAISE.

THIS IS ONLY FOR THE 7 MONTHS MOVING FORWARD FROM MARCH 1ST.

THAT'S WHY IT REPRESENT BASICALLY 712TH OF THAT ORIGINAL APPROVED BUDGETED AMOUNT.

>> OKAY. >> UH-HUH.

>> I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. TOMPECK.

I THINK THE LAST SALARY INCREASE WAS OCTOBER OF 2019.

IS THAT RIGHT? AM I REMEMBERING THAT RIGHT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WHAT -- WAS THAT AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD -- WAS IT 2.5?

>> IT HAD THE INCENTIVE. I HAD THE INCENTIVE.

>> IT WAS OVERALL IS OVERALL 3% TOTAL PACKAGE.

I BELIEVE WE WERE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 AND A HALF OR 4%.

OR 3 AND THREE 1/2 PERCENT. I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT.

>> UP TO FOUR. >> THREE; CORRECT?

>> I THINK I HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK.

I THINK CLOSER TO 3 AND A HALF.

I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS.

>> UH-HUH. >> AND WE HAD RESET IF YOU REMEMBER I THINK THAT WAS BACK IN PERHAPS 2018 WHERE WE HAD RESET THE ADJUSTMENTS TO OCCUR WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR ON OCTOBER 1ST. WE DIDN'T DO IT OCTOBER 1ST OF 2020. WE DELAYED IT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. AND SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING ISSING FOR THAT PORTION FOR THOSE 7 MONTHS MOVING FORWARD.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MINIMUM AND THE MAXIMUMS. YOU WENT OVER THAT QUICKLY. THERE'S SOME THAT YOU NEED TO BRING UP. AND -- RIGHT? TO ADJUST MORE THAN THAT; IS THAT RIGHT? THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM WOULD INCREASE BY 2% BUT ONLY

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INVOLVE LESS THAN 8 PEOPLE. >> DOES THAT -- DID THEY GET

THE 3.5 ALSO? >> I REALLY INVOLVED MOSTLY THOSE NEW EMPLOYEES WHO STILL WITHIN THEIR INTRO INTRODUCTRY PERIOD. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE

WORKING FOR US? >> NO ONE RIGHT NOW AT THE $10. PRETTY MUCH THE STANDARD LOWEST COMES IN AND JUST BELOW $14 AROUND 13.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THAT CATTED CATEGORY.

BY KEEPING PACE WITH THE SMALL ADJUSTMENT ALONG THE WAY BY 2026 WE WILL BE IN GOOD SHAPE TO BE IN COMPLIANT WITH THE

MINIMUM WAGE. >> I THINK THE STAFF WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD AND MADE HUGE HUGE CHANGES IN THEIR SCHEDULE AND ROSE TO THE OCCASION FOR THE PANDEMIC.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IT WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I WILL SECOND. MOVED AND SECONDED.

ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF EMPLOYEE GIVE EMPLOYEES A RAISE. MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. BRACK --

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EMPLOYEE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

I THINK THEY WELL DESERVED A RAISE.

>> THE LAST ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THE

[G.5. FPUA Director and Attorney Compensation Package for possible action by the FPUA Board and there is no staff recommendation.]

THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION AND I WILL OPEN UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

>> THIS IS JUST TO INCREASE BY 3.5%.

>> AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APROVE. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT ONE SECOND BECAUSE WE HAVE TO VOTE SEPARATELY FOR THE ATTORNEY.

IF YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION FOR -- >> I WILL RESERVE MOTION FOR A

MINUTE. >> WE'RE ON THE DISCUSSION.

I HAVE THREE RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSIDERATION.

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO IN THE POSITION NOW.

FIRST I THINK UTILITIES DIRECTOR SHOULD HAVE ANNUAL EVALUATION. IN THE FUTURE.

FIRST, BECAUSE IT GIVES THE DIRECTOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES WHETHER FEMALE OR MALE IN THAT POSITION. AND SECONDLY, IT WOULD GIVE US AS A BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET STANDARDS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT. NUMBER TWO, THE ATTORNEY SHOULD BE NOT BE COMBINED WITH THIS SITUATION.

BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THE -- IT'S NOT LIKE A MARRIAGE SITUATION.

I THINK SECONDLY GIVES US A CANS TO LOOK AT THE ATTORNEYS UPDATE ON ANY PERFORMANCE OR LEGAL PERFORMANCE OR ANYTHING THAT WE STILL SATISFIED WITH OR NOT.

AND THIRD, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE WITH LIKE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. MAYOR HUDSON WOULD BE ABLE EXCUSE HERSELF IF SHE WISHES TO DO.

THAT'S WHY THE TWO SHOULDN'T BE COMBINED.

BASICALLY RECOMMEND SOME THING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND LASTLY, THE BOARD SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT RETIREMENT.

AND THAT RETIREMENT WAS THE DIRECTOR AND ANY OTHER PERSON IN THAT POSITION THAT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO ADVERTISE.

IT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

AND THEN WE CAN SEE THE PAY OR TALK ABOUTIC IN THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TO DEAL WITH THE CRITERIA OF WHAT WE WANTED TO

DO WITH NEW DIRECTOR. >> AND I'M TALKING ABOUT RETIREMENT. IN MY FOOTNOTE TO ME AS THE BOARD. IT WOULD BE WILLING IN FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE THOSE THINGS IN PLACE TO LOOK LIKE FOCUS FOR THE 4 OR 5% FOR THE DIRECTOR. IT'S JUST COMING INTO LINE WITH REALITY. WE'VE BEEN OPERATING OVER THE

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I'M CERTAINLY IN AGREEMENT NOW TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION AND VOTE WITH THE GROUP TO GIVE RAISES TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. WE OUGHT TO HAVE IT IN A WAY.

THE EVALUATION IS NO DIFFERENT WHAT THIS BOARD OUGHT TO BE SETTING UP CRITERIA TO GIVE AN EVALUATION TO THE DIRECTOR.

I THINK HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING OURSELVES SAYING WHAT OUR CRITERIA FOR DOING.

AND THAT'S WHY IT CAN GO UP TO 4 OR 5%.

MAYBE ONE DAY 6%. WE GOT THE FUNDS.

OTHER THAN JUST RUBBER STAMPING THE SAME THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. I HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, ANYTHING ABOUT THE ATTORNEY WOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME CATEGORY WITH THE DIRECTOR. THERE'S BASICALLY TWO.

AND WE MIGHT NOT EVER HAVE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ANY MORE TO THIS BOARD. JUST ONE OF THE COINCIDENTS OF THIS TIME. THOSE KIND OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR BETTERMENT OF THIS ORGANIZATION AS A UTILITY. THANK YOU.

>> HE HAS MADE THE MOTION. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> THAT WAS FOR THE DIRECTOR. >> FOR THE DIRECTOR, YES.

>> IT'S CLEAR WE TALK ABOUT THE DIRECTOR.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ATTORNEY.

>> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MADAM SECRETARY, CALL THE ROLL.

YOU GO ON MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE 3.5 COST OF LIVING

ADJUSTMENT FOR THE ATTORNEY. >> I WILL SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROBABLY SECONDED THAT WE ENTERTAIN THE ATTORNEY. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NOW MAYOR WHEN THEY CALL THE ROLL.

>> I'M READY. I'M USED TO THIS NOW.

>> CALL THE ROLL, MADAM SECRETARY.

>> I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT JILL NEW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WHEN I ASKED. THE FORM TO ASK.

THERE YOU ARE, JILL. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU GOT YOUR NEW PEYTON WAY.

[J. DIRECTOR]

>> LET ME START OFF THE CORRECTION.

I THOUGHT AFTER YOU ASKED ABOUT THE NATURAL GAS I HAD THE WRONG UNITS. WE'RE TALKING STORAGE.

WE'RE TALKING TRILLION OF CUBIC FEED.

NOT BILLION OF CUBIC FEET. NEXT ITEM ON BEHALF OF THE FPUA DIRECTOR I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR THEIR APPROVAL OF THE SALARY INCREASES.

WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. BO HUTCHINSON AND I WILL BE MEETING WITH THE CITY COMMISSION NEXT MONDAY DURING THE CONFERENCE AGENDA FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE WRF RELOCATION. I'M SORRY MAYOR YOU WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT AGAIN. THE WHOLE THING.

>> IT HELPS ME. I WILL NOT BE BORED.

>> MR. TOMPECK IS THAT MONDAY OR TUESDAY?

>> MONDAY AT THE CONFERENCE AGENDA 9:00 A.M.

I THINK -- >> THE CITY COMMISSION MEETS MONDAY MORNING. THE SECOND MONDAY.

CHEYENNE TOLD ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT IT WAS ON TUESDAY. I SAID H YOU SURE?

>> IT'S MONDAY. >> CRA MEETING.

THAT'S THE FRE MEETING. >> THIS WILL BE MONDAY MORNING

AT 9:00. >> WE'RE THE SECOND ITEM ON

THE AGENDA. >> RIGHT.

>> AND WE'LL BE GIVING SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO THE COUNTY ON THE 16TH OF MARCH. I THINK THEIR INFORMAL MEET

STARTS AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING. >> GOOD NEWS, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED 176,000 FROM FEMA FOR HURRICANE MATTHEW.

WE'RE LAUGHING HERE. BECAUSE THAT COMPLETES THE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTED FOR MATTHEW.

AND MATTHEW WAS ONLY 2016. THEY ARE PICKING UP SOME STEAM. TOOK 18 YEARS TO GET -- NOT 18 BUT CLOSE TO IT. WE'RE CONTINUING AND THAT'S ALL MATTHEW IS FINISHED NOW. WE HAVE ALL THE MONEY BACK FROM THAT. AND WE'RE CONTINUING WORK ON THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR HURRICANES ERMA AND DORIAN AND THEY WILL STILL BE AWAYS OFF I SUSPECT.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> YOU'RE TELLING US THERE'S

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FOR THAT HURRICANE. >> I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FROM ERMA.

I DON'T RECALL WE HAVE FOR DORIAN.

QUITE A BIT LESS. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.