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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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EATING DISORDER THIS IS SUPPORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IT IS TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 2021.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CALL RULLED PLEASE.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE APPROVAL THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 13, 2021 AT REGULAR MEETING.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE RULE PLEASE.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated. Sign-up sheet is located in the lobby. ]

THE PUBLIC. >> ALREADY. THIS ITEM WE HAVE ALLOWED 15 MINUTES FOR BUT I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAY WANT TO SPEAK.

I HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS OF THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SO I CAN B&.

>> HOW MANY FOLKS ARE OUTSIDE? >> 10 TO 12. >> DO THEY WANT TO SPEAK, WOULD

YOU ASK THEM? >> 6 OR 7 MAYOR. >> I THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO ALLOW EVERYBODY AND WILL GO OVER TIME A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, I BET YOU'D LIKE TO BE

THE FIRST SIR. >> I'M READY TO GO. >> I KNOW.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. IDENTIFY YOURSELF WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WARNING BUZZER AND I'M GONNA STICK TO THE TIME SINCE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF

PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK. >> ALL TALK FAST. FOR THE RECORD LEE DOBBINS WITH IT UNION LAW FIRM IN FORT PIERCE. 1903 S. 25TH STREET.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING SHELLEY ASSOCIATES LLC REGARDING THE RFP FOR FISHERMAN'S WHARF.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO ASK SHELLEY ASSOCIATES FOR THE PROJECT OR THE ALTERNATIVE YOU HAVE THE 2 HIGHEST SCORING RESPONDERS PRESENT THEIR PROJECTS TO THE BOARD.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT BY OFFICE AMERICA GROUP APPEARS TO COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT. THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT WILL BE ANCHORED BY A HOTEL AS YOU KNOW. THE HOTEL IS A LYNCH OF THAT PROJECT.HE HOTELS A COMPONENT OF THE KING SUNDAY THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

IT'S A COMPONENT THAT THE REST OF THE PROJECT DEPENDS UPON. OFFICE AMERICA GROUP PROJECT APPEARS TO COMPETE DIRECTLY WITHOUT HOTEL AND CALLS FOR 76 RESORT STYLE FULLY FURNISHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE DEDICATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

ANY HOTEL OPERATOR PLANNING TO INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUILD A HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE AT KING'S LANDING WOULD HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OFFICE AMERICA GROUP COMPETING AGAINST THEM WITHOUT PROJECT. SHELLEY ASSOCIATES PROJECT ON THE OTHER HAND IS MUCH MORE COMPLEMENTARY TO KINGS LANDING. BY FAR THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF THE SHELLEY ASSOCIATES PLAN IS A 49,000 SQUARE-FOOT BOAT STORAGE FACILITY. OWNERS IN KINGS THAT HE MAY WANT TO KEEP ABOUT AT THE FACILITY. IT COULD BE AMENDED ENTITY TO THE CONDOS. YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE SITE PLANS FOR THE 2 PROJECTS.

THE OFFICE AMERICA GROUP SITE PLAN DOES NOT APPEAR TO PROVIDE FOR ANY STORM WATER RETENTION AT SOME OF 100 PERCENT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. AS YOU KNOW STORM WATER CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO SIMPLY RUN INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. TO MEET THIS TORT WATER RETENTION STORMWATER HAVE TO BE PROVIDED A VERY EXPENSIVE STORMWATER VOTES WILL HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED BELOW GROUND IF THAT'S FEASIBLE. THE SHELLEY ASSOCIATES IPOD HAS PLANNED FOR STORMWATER RETENTION AND HAS THE POND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.

LASTLY AS YOU KNOW THE SCORING SYSTEM USED BY THE EVALUATION TEAM IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE.

WE'VE ALL SEEN SHOWS LIKE SO YOU THANK YOU CAN DANCE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADMIT IT BUT WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM. AND IN THOSE SHOWS THE JUDGE'S DO THEIR BEST TO COME UP WITH A SCORE OF DIFFERENT METRICS AND LOW SCORES UNLESS DIFFERENT METRICS ARE ALL ADDED UP TO REACH A FINAL SCORE. THAT'S THE SAME METHODOLOGY USED BY THE RFP EVALUATION COMMITTEE. IT'S NOT A KNOCK ON THE PROCESS IT'S HOW RFPS ARE DONE.

IT'S AS MUCH ART AS IT IS SCIENCE. IN THIS CASE THE TOTAL SCORES OF THE 2 HIGHEST APPLICANTS WERE 2 POINTS APART. 414 VERSUS 416.

THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF LESS THAN ONE HALF OF A PERCENTAGE POINT.

BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS IN DOWNTOWN, KINGS LANDING AND FISHERMAN'S WHARF ARE 2

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IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THE WRONG PROJECT TO BE SELECTED.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS COME BEFORE THE BOARD, PRESENT AND ALLOW YOU

GUYS TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. >> OKAY THANK YOU WHO'S NEXT.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. >> WELCOME.

>> EITHER ON TELEMEDICINE PRESIDENT OF AUDUBON DEVELOPER, DEVELOPER KING SANDY, NICE TO

BE HERE. >> YOUR ADDRESS FOR US PLEASE. >> 184 SUNSET PALM BEACH

FLORIDA. >> I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT TO PROPOSERS HERE TODAY.

BUT TO GIVE YOU A BACKDROP I WANTED TO COMMENT AND GIVE YOU LITTLE UPDATE ON KINGS LANDING.

TOLLING OF CONTRACT. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TOLLING WAS. UNTIL A YEAR AGO.

TOLLING MEANS FREEZING THE CONTRACT IN GOVERNMENT SPEAK. OUR CONTRACT WITH KINGS LANDING HAS BEEN TOLD FOR TO 403 DAYS. DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING HASN'T BEEN DONE.

A LOT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST YEAR. BUT, IT'S A TECHNICAL TERM.

403 DAYS OF TOLLING. IT JUST SLOWED THINGS DOWN LITTLE BIT.

BUT, IN THAT TIME STAFF AND OUR TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY.

WE'VE GOT A NEW HOTEL SELECTED. WHICH IS REMARKABLE, $45 MILLION HOTEL.

WE'VE GOT OUR SITE PLAN SUBMITTED A MONTH AGO. WE SUBMITTED THAT AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE HOTEL IN PLACE SO THAT IT WAS IN STAFFS HANDS SO THAT THEY COULD SEE WHERE TO REMOVE THE DEBRIS THAT WAS FOUND IN THE GROUND FOR THE DUE DILIGENCE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO SUPPLY STAFF. WE SUPPLIED A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE SUBMITTED ON THE RFP. A YEAR AGO OR SO. DRAFT UPDATE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY AND THAT'S IN THE FIELD NOW. E ALSO NEED TO DO AN ARCHITECTURAL PLAN PLAT PLAN TO SEE WERE BROKEN UP WITH THE TREES AND STUFF AND FINISH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS HALFWAY DONE UP UNTIL THE HOTEL PULLED OUT. SO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF STRAGGLERS THINGS THAT WERE DOING AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE DONE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.

JUST AN UPDATE ON KINGS LANDING WERE DOING FINE.STAFF HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND SO LOTS HAVE BEEN DONE WHILE WE'VE BEEN TOLLING ALONG. AS IT RELATES TO THE TO PROPOSERS YOU HAVE BEFORE US. YOU GUYS ARE THE MASTER DEVELOPERS OF BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS. AND, AS MASTER DEVELOPERS YOU'RE NOT PLAYING CHECKERS PLAYING CHESS NOW. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. THERE'S A LOT OF STRATEGIC ISSUE AS YOU WILL KNOW. WITH THE TOLLING OF 403 DAYS AND ALL THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET KINGS LANDING OFF THE GROUND I WOULD JUST SAY COULD WE SLOW OUR ROLE JUST A LITTLE BIT AND NOT FLOOD THE MARKET WITH COMPETITIVE PRODUCTS TO KINGS LANDING.

WHAT IF YOUR PROPOSERS HAVE 70 UNITS THAT ARE IN DIRECT COMPETITION WITH THE HOTEL.

SHORT STAY COMPONENT. THE OTHER HAS GOT RESIDENTIAL 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL. I LIKE THE BOAT STACKING PROPOSAL MYSELF.

IT'S COMPLEMENTARY BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. I WOULD GO THAT WAY BUT, FROM WHERE I SIT IT'S BAD AND MORE BAD. BAD BECAUSE ONCE GOT RESIDENTIAL COMPETING WITH US AND ONE THAT SCOTT BECAUSE HE'S GOT 70 HOTEL ROOMS OF COMPETING

WITH US. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANKS.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT, WHO'S NEXT?WELCOME SIR, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

>> CLEARLY JUNIOR, LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER VIRGINIA AVENUE FORT PIERCE.

THINK ABOUT AMERICA. COMMISSIONERS. NOT QUITE A BELONG.

GOING TO REITERATE WHAT LEE SPOKE ABOUT. I THINK THE SHELLEY GROUP IS THE ONE THAT'S MOST SUITED TO HAVE A MARINE COMPONENT IN THERE WITH THE BOATS.

I THINK THE SHOPS IN MR. MILLER AND I HE IS A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER BUT HE WAS GONNA BE HERE TODAY. WE OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF.

WE HAVE AGREED TO WORK WITH THEM WITH THEIR PROJECT AND THROWING OUR PROPERTY AND IF NEED BE TO MAKE THEIR PROJECT VIABLE. WE FILLED WITH THE MARINE COMPONENT THAT THEY HAVE WOULD GO WELL WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN BY THE WATERFRONT.

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SOME ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO I .

>> GOOD AFTERNOON JACQUELINE SONS AND CONSTRUCTION PICK PO BOX 4343 FORT PIERCE FLORIDA.

ON BEHALF OF SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES. TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AS WE KNOW INTEREST RATES MIGHT BE COMING SOON. SO TO GET THIS PROCESS MOVING DEPENDING ON WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS WERE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TODAY IF THOSE COME UP. CERTAINLY WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS IN HELPING ANY WAY WE CAN TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION. AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION, IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU LEFT WE ASK IF YOU CAN MOVE THEM ALONG AND TRY TO DO THEM IN 2 WEEKS IF YOU CAN. WERE PREPARED AND READY TO GO. MR. LEE SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. WHEN LOOKING AT ENCOMPASSING THAT WHOLE AREA.

WE'VE ALSO SPOKE WITH THE JENKINS AND I WENT IN A GAME PLAN ESCAPE THE RESTAURANT OPEN AND USEFUL WHILE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SO FORTH. WE TAKEN A LOT OF CONSIDERATION AND THOUGHT ON HOW WERE GOING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT MAKING SURE WHERE THE BEST PARTNERS WE COULD BE IN DEVELOPING THE WHOLE AREA. WITHOUT A HEAD IT'S A THANK YOU

AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT? >> GOOD AFTERNOON AMERICAN COMMISSIONERS.

I'M PETE TASH PRESIDENT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

500 NORTHWEST. CALIFORNIA BOULEVARD. PORT ST. LUCIE.

ALSO A PROUD RESIDENT FORT PIERCE. I HAVE GREAT NEWS FOR YOU TODAY. I AM NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

[APPLAUSE]. [LAUGHTER]. >> I AM HERE TO SUPPORT SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES. I'M URGING THE COMMISSION TO BUY LOCAL.

WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP HERE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND MANY OF THE INVESTORS HERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. AS LEE DOBBINS SAID VERY ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT ALONG WITH KINGS LANDING, EDC IS SUPPORTING THEM.

AMONG SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES, KINGS LANDING AND THEN OUR WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR SHIPYARDS, THE LINKAGE BETWEEN ALL THOSE GREAT PROJECTS AND BRINGING THAT ALTOGETHER TO DOWNTOWN IS PART OF THE ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION EFFORTS THAT WE ARE ALL GETTING INVOLVED WITH.

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PLAYOFF ROUND THAT OFFICE AMERICAN SHELLEY ASSOCIATES COULD COME UP HERE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

WITH 2 POINTS, DIFFERENCE, PERSONALLY I WOULD'VE TAKEN THE 2 POINTS OF BECAUSE OFFICE AMERICA COULDN'T SPELL ST. LUCIE RIGHT. BUT THAT'S OKAY.ANYWAY, GET THEM UP HERE AND LET'S, NOW YOU'RE INTERESTED AREN'T YOU? [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S ON I LOVE LUCY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU SIR. WHO IS NEXT?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRISTA STONE, THANK YOU FOR 27 SOUTHWEST. BILTMORE AVENUE. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST EXERCISE THE OPPORTUNITY OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND A VERY POSITIVE MANNER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TALK ABOUT THE FACT OF OUR LOCAL AND WHAT THEY REPRESENT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE ARE DOING BUSINESS THAT WE ALSO GIVE OUR LOCALS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE NEED FOR WATER EQUALITY. BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT SO FAR IT SEEMS SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES SEEM TO BE REALLY INTERESTED IN YOUR ATTORNEY BASE IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS A FISH POND. THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T RELATE NOW SO I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT. IT'S A BABY FISH POND RIGHT OUT THERE IN FISHERMAN'S WHARF. HONESTLY WITH THE INLET AND ALL OF THE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IT WOULD BEHOOVE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THOSE THAT

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ARE INTERESTED IN THE PRESERVATION OF OUR WATER AND OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR FUTURE FOR OUR TOWN AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CHILDREN. BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESEARCH I WOULD LIKE TO STAND BEFORE YOU AND SAY THAT I AM HERE TO REPRESENT SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES AND THANK THEM VERY MUCH FOR WHAT THEY'VEDONE SO FAR TO BE PROACTIVE IN WATER AND TO FLEE MAKE AN IMPACT IN A POSITIVE MANNER NOT ONLY AS LOCALS BUT AS A FUTURE IMPACT FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO'S NEXT? ANYONE ELSE?

THANK YOU. >> HELLO GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS SANJAY SAHA I'M THE OWNER OF INLET BEAT. I'M A LOCAL RESIDENT MY ADDRESS IS 927 NORTH US HIGHWAY ONE. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATE.

HE HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMMUNITY. HE IS ALSO LOCAL AND IN MY SHOP WE HAVE A LOT OF VISITORS THAT COME IN. THEY LOOK FOR WHAT BUSINESS CAN OFFER. WHAT SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES IS OFFERING IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY ALSO FOR THE VISITORS PLUS THE LOCAL RESIDENTS. I WOULD LIKE, HOW DO YOU SAY,

HAVE SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES HAVE A CHANCE TODAY. >> THANK YOU SIR.

NEXT? >> HELLO EVERYONE. RICK SUBMIT OUR ADDRESS IS 108 NORTH DEPOT DRIVE FORT PIERCE FLORIDA 34950. I'M HERE REPRESENTING DESTINATION FORT PIERCE. I'M VERY PLEASED AND I LIKE TO COME INTO THE CITY AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE RFQ PROCESS HERE. I THINK THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR A CITY. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW WE HAVE PYOUR FULL SUPPORT. OR I HAVE YOUR SO FULL SUPPORT RATHER. SORRY FOR THE MISS SPEAKING. ANYWAY, TO CUT DOWN TO IT I REVIEWED ARE THE RFQ'S I'VE BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN THIS SINCE I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THE PROGRAM. SO MUCH SO I REACH OUT TO CHEYENNE THE DAY THE RFPS WERE TURNING IN HEY CAN I GET COPIES NOT REALIZING THERE UNDER LOCK. AS SOON AS SHE TOLD ME THEY WERE AVAILABLE I PULLED THEM DOWN WITH GREAT INTEREST. BUT THROUGH THE MALL.

LOOKED AT THEM FROM AN OBJECTIVE STANDPOINT I CAN TELL YOU I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR PSCORING PROCESS. I GET WHEN YOU GUYS ARRIVED AT THE NUMBERS YOU DID.

HOWEVER, I DO FEEL THAT THE LOCAL COMPONENT OF THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT I WANT TO THROW MY BACKING BEHIND SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES. I DO STRONGLY FEEL YOU GUYS SHOULD SUPPORT HIS PROJECT FIRST OVER SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF TOWN.

THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF IT. THE SECOND PART IS EVEN IF YOU CAN'T THROW THE SUPPORT BEHIND IT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT YOU'VE GIVEN. DO THINK A PRESENTATION OR A TIEBREAKER IF YOU WILL SHOULD BE MADE IN A PUBLIC FORUM SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE BENEFITS AND THE NEGATIVES OF BOTH PROJECTS. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO WHAT MY OPINIONS ARE OF THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

AT THE END OF THE DAY I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT THE BEST JOB ONE AND RIGHT NOW MY FEELING IS

IT'S SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES. THAT'S ALL ABOUT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE TO SAY ANYTHING? LAST CALL.

LAST CALL. OKAY, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE? >> UNDER THE WIRE.

>> WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. ÃMURPHY.

OCEAN DRIVE. I HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS.

MY ONLY CONCERN WAS ON I DON'T EVEN HAVE THERE NAME RANK, OFFICE AMERICA.

I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF THE OFFICE COMPONENT GAVE ME A PAUSE IN IT.

I KNOW IN OUR DAY-TO-DAY THAT'S MOST CHALLENGING SECTOR WE HAVE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY REALISTICALLY PINS OUT THEY DO SAY THEY HAVE A LEATHER OF INTENT FROM A POTENTIAL OFFICE USER WHICH CERTAINLY WAS NICE TO SEE. BUT, THAT TYPICALLY IS NOT A SCEPTER THAT IS VIABLE RIGHT OW. CERTAINLY IN OUR AREA WE STRUGGLE, WE HAVE CLASS A OFFICE AND CLASSY OFFICE ARE CONSTANTLY DEALING WITH IT.

I JUST POINT THAT OUT. I THINK IN TERMS OF USABILITY I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO

CONSIDER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? THIS IS LAST CALL AGAIN.

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ALREADY, WORKING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING POLITE AND FOLLOWING THE RULES AND OBEYING OF RECOGNIZING OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS, I APPRECIATE IT

VERY MUCH.> THEY DID IT UNDER 15 MINUTES. >> SEE, I DIDN'T NEED TO WORRY.

[6. FPRA FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT]

I GUESS WERE ADJOURNED THEN. [LAUGHTER]. >> NEXT ITEM ON HE AGENDA AS A

FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FY 2019 Ã2020. >> MR. MIMS DO YOU HAVE

ANYTHING TO. >>MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WE DO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE HERE WITH US TODAY. THAT IS GOING TO QUICKLY REVIEW OUR FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR

FY 20 WITH REGARDS TO THE FPRA BUDGET. >> MISS MORRIS?> GOOD AFTERNOON MERIT AND MISSION COMMISSIONERS. I'LL GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND YOU DO WILL HAVE TO PROVE THIS. WE HAVE AN APPROVED OF $6,905,034. WE ARE MANDATING THAT TO TO $6,799,910.

AS A RESULT YOU WILL SEE WHERE IT SHOWS WE HAD ABOUT $587,000 INCREASE IN OUR REVENUE THAT WE PROJECTED. THE LARGEST BEING THE MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE.

YOU WILL SEE THE DECREASE OF THE 692 IN FUND BALANCE WE ARE SENDING THAT AMOUNT TO FUND BALANCE. THAT IS AN INCREASE FOR US IN FUND BALANCE.

YOU WILL SEE ALSO WHERE THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR OUR BALANCE WAS BUDGET WITH APPROVED BUDGET FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF THE 6.9. WE HAD AN INCREASE IN SOME OF THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES.

THE MAJOR DECREASE WAS IN THE OTHER PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT'S MAINLY DUE TO COVID-19. WE HAD BUDGETED MONEY FOR SROS AND THE COST OF THAT DO NOT MATERIALIZE BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS WERE NOT OPEN. THAT MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED TO BE USED THAT 300,000 WAS IT USE AND IT REMAINED IN THE OTHER PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS.

AS A RESULT THERE'S A DECREASE OF 1.52 PERCENT IN THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.

ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU ALL APPROVE THE AMENDED BUDGET.

>> QUICK QUESTION YOU TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S GOOD INFO CASE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE DO FUND SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD AND IT REMINDED ME WHEN MR. MADISON CAME FORWARD THE MONIES THAT CAME BACK FROM THE KINGS POWER PLANT PROPERTY. THE CAME BACK THEY WERE GOING TO I THINK WE APPROVED LAST SUMMER SOMETIME 170,000.IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT?

>> IT WOULD BE ON THE REVENUE SIDE. ANY REVENUE.

>> EMILY MADE A DECISION I BELIEVE IS THE BOARD TO PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE PROJECT TO

REMOVE THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE. >> I DON'T RECALL THE EXPENSES.

I DON'T RECALL THE EXPENSES COMING UP ABOUT. IF SO THE MONEY WOULD BE IN THE FUND BALANCE TO BE UTILIZED WHENEVER THE INVOICES COME IN FOR THOSE EXPENDITURES FOR

PAYMENT. >> IS OUR DOING IT. >> MR. MIMS HAS SOMETHING WHAT

TO SAY. >> WE DO HAVE THE REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BONUS.

VOLUNTEER TAX CREDIT TO THE FTP. WE HAVE NOT EXPENDED ANY OF

THOSE FUNDS AS OF YET. >> OKAY, BUT WERE GOING TO. MY QUESTION IS GOING TO THE BUDGET SINCE IT SAID FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT. IS IT GOING TO BE INCLUDED NOW

OR INCLUDED, WHEN? >> AND REVENUE RECEIPT WE RECOGNIZE THE REVENUE WHEN IT'S RECEIVED. HOWEVER IT WOULD SIT IN FUND BALANCE WHICH WE DO IN AN INCREASE TO FUND BALANCE AND THAT MIGHT BE IN THAT NUMBER. UNTIL WE ACTUALLY EXPENSE THE EXPENDITURES. IF IT'S IN FUND BALANCE AND IT'S AN EXPENDITURE THAT WOULD COME UP THAT'S NOT BUDGETED FOR IT WOULD COME FROM THE FUND BALANCE WHICH WOULD OFFSET THAT. WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE THE REVENUE IN PLACE TO OFFSET THAT

EXPENSE. >> OKAY. WE HAVE TO BE GETTING CLOSE I WOULD THINK TO THAT. I HOPE. WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

I NOTE WE HAVE TO REMOVE SOME STUFF IN THE GROUND WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

WE COMMITTED TO THAT BACK LAST JULY OR AUGUST OR SOMETHING. >> WE WERE GOING TO GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT AROUND 400,000 BY REMEMBERING THAT RIGHT? YOUR QUESTION IS WHERE IS THAT?

RIGHT? >> IF THIS IS A FINAL BUDGET, YEAH.

>> IF WE GO BACK TO THE REVENUE, LET'S GO BACK. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THIS ON THE SCREEN. I THANK YOU WERE TALKING AND IT WAS GETTING IT UP ON THE SCREEN. WE NEED TO SEE IT AND BLACK AND WHITE OHNNA.

IT'S THERE CAUGHT MISCELLANEOUS. CONSIDERING COAT COVID-19.

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DO WE FILL OUR NUMBERS, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WERE PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH CAME OUT UNSCATHED.

>> WE CAME OUT WONDERFUL. HONESTLY WERE SO GRATEFUL. >> IT'S BECAUSE WE WERE GOING INTO IT WONDERFUL.THAT'S MY MEMORY. YEAH.

>> THE FORECAST IS COMING OUT OF IT. BUT THAT'S THE QUESTION.> AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY WE ARE STILL WONDERFUL POSITION ECONOMICALLY THINGS ARE LOOKING GREAT. I DO HAVE TO AND ALWAYS KEEP A WHAT-IF SCENARIO IN A TRY TO KEEP A LITTLE CONTINGENCY. BUT, CURRENTLY AS IT IS RIGHT NOW WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE FUND IS POSITIVE. THERE'S ABOUT ONE POINT I THINK IT'S 1.5 OR 6 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.SO THEN IN A GREAT SPOT.

>> ARE KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT THE FPRA OWES A CITY? >> I AM.

I AM. [LAUGHTER]. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. MORRIS? YOU NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, CORRECT?

>> APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> OF MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLE.

[a. Approval of authorization for staff to enter into contractual negotiations with highest ranked proposer pursuant to the review of qualifications and proposals associated with RFQP 2020-023 Redevelopment of Fisherman's Wharf.]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTUAL NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSAL PURSUANT TO THE REVIEW OF QUALIFICATIONS AND PROPOSALS ASSOCIATED WITH RFQ P 2020 Ã 023 REDEVELOPMENT OF

FISHERMAN'S WHARF. >> MR. MIMS. >> MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WHATEVER ECONOMIC DEVELOPER MANAGER THAT WILL GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE RFQ AND RFP PROCESS FOR THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT. AT THIS TIME ALTERNATE OVER TO

HIM. >> MS. HARNAGE, WELCOME.>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE FPRA FORWARD. I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND SELL THE PARTICIPATION IN THIS VERY CATALYTIC PROJECT. TAKING A LOOK BACK.

WE ISSUE THIS RFQ EARLY LAST YEAR. WE HAVE A PANDEMIC WE PUT ON HOLD.E BROUGHT IT BACK AND WE CAME OUT WITH A NEW TIMELINE.

WE'RE VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE AMOUNT OF PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED.

YOU WILL DETERMINE THE SHORT LIST OF 4 FIRMS ON OCTOBER 27. WE ISSUED THE RFP TO THAT SHORTLIST ON NOVEMBER 2 WE RECEIVED ALL 4 PROPOSALS ON JANUARY 11.

LOOKING AT THE RFP WANT TO BE ASKED FOR, WHAT WERE WE SEEKING? NUMBER ONE WAS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT IS A CONCEPTUAL TYPE OF PLAN.OT A SITE PLAN WERE READY TO APPROVE TODAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S LIKE WHAT YOUR IDEA FOR THIS OJECT. HOW THIS PROJECT MEET WITH THE GOALS OUTLINED IN THE RFP, THE CRA PLANT THAT WAS UPDATED AND ADOPTED AND OF COURSE HOW'S IT GOING TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE SITE. WE ALSO ASKED FOR AN ANALYSIS ON ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY, HOW THEY WERE GOING TO FINANCE THE PROJECT, HOW THEY WERE GOING TO ACQUIRE THE PROJECT WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A PURCHASE OR LEASE AND A PRELIMINARY SCHEDULE. THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF 5 STAFF MEMBERS.

AND ONE OUTSIDE PERSON WHICH WITHSTAND PAIN HE'S A PORT DIRECTOR FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

IN THE MARINA MANAGER DEAN KUBICEK, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL PAUL THOMAS, OUR CITY ENGINEER JACK ANDREWS AND OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR JENNIFER HOFMEISTER. THEY EVALUATED ALL 4 PROPOSALS WITH THE EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS SOLICITATION.

WHICH WAS ALL THOSE THINGS I JUST MENTIONED TO YOU. AT TOTALED 100 POINTS PER EVALUATOR. AS SOMEONE MENTIONED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY RANKED VERY, VERY CLOSELY. 2 POINTS A CUMULATIVELY SEPARATE THE TOP 2 FIRMS. OFFICE AMERICA GROUP AT 416, SHELLEY ASSOCIATES 414 AS EQUITIES TO 45 SMITH PILLARS 215. MY BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PROPOSALS UP TO GET INTO TO MUCH DETAILS. THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

STARTING WITH SMITH BUILDERS. HE WAS PROPOSING A HOTEL AND A CONDO.

THERE WAS NO SITE PLAN INCLUDED WITH THE RFP SO IS DIFFICULT TO EVALUATE THAT.

THERE WAS ALSO LACKING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE AND ADDITIONAL DETAILS. A SORT EQUITIES WAS PROPOSING A 2-PHASE PROJECT BUT WE WERE ONLY LOOKING AT PHASE 1 WHICH WAS UNLEAVENED WATERFRONT DUPLEXES.

THEY ALSO HAD SOME PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE SITE WITH THE TIKI BAR, RESTAURANT TYPE ATMOSPHERE AND A PUBLIC BOARDWALK. OVERALL THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FELT LIKE THIS WAS OF THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE SITE CONSIDERING IT'S A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PORT AND DOWNTOWN EDGARTOWN. WE HAVE SHELLEY ASSOCIATES THAT

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HAD A WIDE MIX OF USES AND THE VALUATION COMMITTEE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR PRESENTATION AND THEIR OVERALL IDEA FOR THE SITE WHICH INCLUDED 2 RESTAURANTS, A TIKI BAR, A MARINA, THE DRY STACK STORAGE BOATHOUSE. DIFFERENT EVENTS AND LIVING ACCOMMODATIONS AS WELL AS RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THERE PROPOSING A LONG-TERM LEASE WITH SUMMATIVE REVENUE SHARE WHICH WERE FAMILIAR WITH THROUGH THE KINGS LANDING AGREEMENT. THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDING ADJACENT PARCELS THAT WERE NOT INCORPORATED INTO THE RFP. THIS CAME UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH EVALUATION COMMITTEE. THEY WERE CONCERNED ON HOW THEY EVALUATED SOMETHING THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL SOLICITATION. THAT PLAYED A ROLE IN THEIR EVALUATION. HERE'S THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THEY ENCOMPASSED THE WHOLE FISHERMAN'S WHARF WHICH IS A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.

THE PARCELS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN RFP ARE JUST THE BOATHOUSE AND THIS AL-SHAPED RIGHT HERE FOR THE FPRA PARCELS. JUST INCLUDED SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR PROPOSALS. THE BOATHOUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WITH RELOCATING THE BOAT RAMP SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH. THERE PROPOSING A RESTAURANT THERE YOU HAVE YOUR MIXED USE RETAIL AND ANOTHER RESTAURANT SUSPENDED OUT ONTO THE WATER. THERE IS ANOTHER VIEW.

AUNT, ANOTHER VIEW. THEN OFFICE AMERICA GROUP THEY RANKED THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE RANKED THEM HIGHS IN THE QUALIFICATIONS PHASE AS WELL AS THE PROPOSAL PHASE.

THEY ARE PROPOSING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. WITH AN OPEN AIR MARKET, RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH PUBLIC ACCESS ON THE BOARDWALK. THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS ABOVE.

THEY FELT THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT DIRECTOR AND WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE PORT.

THERE PROPOSING A $2 MILLION CASH ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY KEPT INTO THE CONFINES OF THE RFP. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WITH EVALUATION COMMITTEE ON OFFICE AMERICA GROUP WOULD BE THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM ON THEIR RENDERINGS. SOME PEOPLE FELT IT WAS MORE LIKE A LAND ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. YOU COULD SEE THEIR SITE PLAN HERE.

BUT RAMP IS EXISTING WITH SOME LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THEN THOSE 2 BUILDINGS.

THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW. AND THERE WE GO. OUR RECOMMENDATION OF COURSE IS TO APPROVE THAT YOU ALLOW STAFF WITH THE HIGHEST PROPOSERS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> SO THE COMMITTEE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM I DID WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS ADDED ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES INTO THEIR MIX. HOW DO YOU, THAT'S NOT APPLES AND APPLES ANYMORE. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLES OF APPLES AND ORANGES.

ALTHOUGH YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND YOU SAY WOW. IT'S JUST AWESOME.

I DID AS I WENT DOWN TO FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND READ THROUGH MY PROPOSAL SITTING THERE. EVERYTHING LOOKED BIGGER ON PAPER THAN IT DID BY SITTING THERE. IN THE PARKING LOTS AND EVERYTHING.

HOW DO THEY GET ALL THE STUFF HAPPENING. I DON'T HAPPENS.

DIFFICULTY TRYING TO IN MY MIND EVALUATE CRITICAL FORCE WITH ALL THIS.

WE LIKE SOME OF THE AMENITIES WERE OFFERED BY SHELLEY BE HARD TO DISQUALIFY OFFICE AMERICA BECAUSE THEY WERE STICKING TO THE CONFINES OF THE PROPERTY WE HAD LOST IN ALL THAT.

I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH I WOULD LIKE HERE FOR BOTH PROPOSERS LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU HAD TO STICK TO THE PROPERTY IN THE RFP AS DESCRIBED OR IF YOU COULD PLAN B WOULD IF WE COULD GO-AHEAD TO GET OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY RIGHT THERE TO ADD INTO IT WHAT AMENITIES WOULD HAPPEN. THAT WE BE EASIER FOR ME I'D SAY TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE. BECAUSE, GOING THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD'VE REJECTED THE SHELLEY GROUP BECAUSE THEY WENT OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF THE PROPOSAL.

BUT, I'M GLAD THEY DID. AS FAR AS MY 2 CENTS IS I THINK WE NEED TO PROPOSERS BACK IN HERE AND COME UP WITH A WAY THEY CAN RECOMMEND STICKING TO THE PLAN AND THEN OFFER THEM A PLAN B THAT IF WE DON'T STICK TO THE PLAN HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO IF WE CAN REACH OUTSIDE THE

LITTLE C-SHAPED PROPERTY. >> CERTAINLY.> I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.

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I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF DIGESTING ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE. EVERY TIME I READ THIS I PICK UP SOMETHING NEW.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING THE SAME THING. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS. , WANT TO HAVE IDEAS.

I'M THINKING IF WE COULD MOVE THIS TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE THIS MEETING WHERE EVERYBODY, OR THESE 2 RESPONDERS TO THE RFP COULD COME IN FRONT OF US AND GO THROUGH IT RENDITION THINK IT WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> SEE JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APOLOGIZE. THESE ARE ALLERGIES ON DEALING WITH A PEER. EVERYONE IS SAFE OUT THERE. I DID NOT GET THIS UNTIL I WAS HERE WITH YOU LAST NIGHT. THIS IS AN ISSUE OVER HERE. A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SO YOU ALLUDED TO A PROCESS WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE EVALUATION THAT YOU FELT MAYBE SOME OF THE EVALUATORS TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO EXTRA BEYOND A MOVIE CAUSED THE QUESTION SO THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED A GREATER DIVIDE BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE BEEN IN A DIRECT TIE AS A RESULT PERHAPS, I DON'T KNOW. @TOO WENT DOWN TO FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND WALKED TO THE PROPERTY AND LOOKED AROUND. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SIGNING UP FOR ME AS I LOOK AT THIS FROM AN EVALUATION STANDPOINT. WE SPENT ABOUT 14 HOURS OR SO DEVELOPING A STRATEGIC PLAN. LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS.

I HAVE THAT IN MY MIND. I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROPOSALS AND TOOK A LOOK AT THEM. CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE AND I NEED TO ASK THOSE DIRECTLY I THINK TO THE ACTUAL PROPOSERS TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND THEM IN THE PRESENTATION.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY.'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA THAT MEANS A LOT TO FORT PIERCE.

REALLY CONNECTING TO COMMUNITIES AT THE BASE THAT BRIDGE AND LINKIN PARK IS WITHIN A STONE'S THROW. I LOOK AT IT FROM THAT LENS AS TO WHAT GIVES US THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO ROUND THIS THING I'M CALLING ONE, FORT PIERCE. GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

I WOULD APPLAUD ALL OF THEM. I THOUGHT IT WAS FAIR. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT PROCESS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING ON FOR THE 2 TO COME SO I CAN ASK THEM

QUESTIONS. >> YES SIR. >> MR. JAY JOHNSON.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. I AGREE COMMISSIONERS AND BOARD MEMBERS IN THIS CASE.

OUR BOARD MEMBERS TODAY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T DISAGREE. I DO HAVE VARYING OPINION ON THE 2 PROPOSALS SOME OF THEM BEING THE NATURE OF DESIGN FEATURE AND NATURE OF LOOKING AT IT FROM THE LENS AND WEARING THE LINES OF AN FPRA. OUR MISSION IS TO REDEVELOP AND ENHANCE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOMETIMES GOING OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS ARE COMING UP WITH A CREATIVE VISION HELPS ME WITH THE FPRA HAT ON.

I WENT TO THE PROJECT GOALS AND THEY ARE WELL STATED IN THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF WHEN WE STARTED THIS. BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THOSE, AND 22ND TEEN I THINK IT WAS, WHEN DO WE COLLABORATE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND BRING THE 2 OF THEM TOGETHER AND WE CAME UP WITH THE VISION AND PERSPECTIVE OF THE ENTIRE FISHERMAN'S WHARF AREA.

>> I THINK IT WAS 17 OR 18. >> INCLUDED ALL OF THSE PARCELS IN THE AREA.

WE INCLUDED EVEN THE ENTIRE RUN OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF. WE GOT INTO THE BOUNDS OVERBITE

CAPTAIN SCALIA I BELIEVE. WHERE THE COUNTY OWNS PROPERTY. >> AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE

RAILROAD. LEFT BACK. >> WE DID.

WE HAD A VERY BROAD BRUSH THAT DAY. THAT HAS STUCK IN MY MIND SINCE THAT TIME. SO, THEN WE TALKED ABOUT AND I THINK I MENTIONED IT BACKTHEN.

FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND THE END OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF WHICH IS THE OLD SEAWAY DRIVE AND MAKING THAT A POINT OF DESTINATION. I THINK I CALLED ITSELF THE POINT.OME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE FOR FOLKS ARE DRIVEN THERE FOR A REASON AND IT'S A DESTINATION.

SO, I SEE ALL THOSE THINGS TO SAY COMMISSIONER PERONA I AGREE WITH THEO.

I THINK WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY IS A REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO LOOK AT A BROADER SCHOOL. I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR FOR SURE SIR.

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PUBLIC SPACE AND WATERFRONT CREATE A UNIQUE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT AND GATHER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FROM DAY ONE.ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAD HER EDC REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY. QUALITY DESIGN.

I STRUGGLE WITH WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PIECES OF PAPER I WAS GIVEN WITH ASPECTS OF BOTH OF THEM UPFRONT ABOUT THE BOXING THIS OF ONE OF THE PROPOSERS WITH ALL OF IT BEING A BOX.

I STRUGGLED WITH TIME. THE OTHER ONE WITH A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A BOAT STORAGE FACILITY BUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITHOUT IT BEING A BOX. I LIKE IT THOUGH.

IN THAT REALM. YOU HAVE TO SIT BACK AND VISION WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE COMING OVER THE BRIDGE, APPROACHING THE BRIDGE. WHAT IS YOUR INTERACTION AS A HUMAN BEING COMING OVER AND AS A PEDESTRIAN OR A VEHICLE DRIVER.

EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHAT IS LOOK LIKE, WHAT IS IF YOU LIKE? I JUST TALK ABOUT THOSE POINTS AND CRA GOALS A COMMUNITY INPUT AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT I THINK THERE WAS A SLIDE WHERE POPPED UP ALL OF THE FEATURES. WE WANT TO COME DOWN TO HAVE A VIBRANT AREA TO SHOP, MAYBE GO FISHING, TO GET TO ABOVE GROUND.

YOU KNOW, HAVE ICE CREAM. I THINK THERE WAS A BIG STORE PROPOSAL.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YEARS AGO. JUST DRIVING ALL THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND GAIN WITH BOTH OF THEM COMING IN TELLING US ABOUT IT GIVING A PRESENTATION TO US.

THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FOR DIVING IN AND LISTENING TO THE PROPOSERS AND THEIR PROJECTS.

IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK. I DO IT WITH A DIFFERENT HAT ON ANY TIMES OUTSIDE OF THESE CHAMBERS. IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S DIFFICULT.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WHAT COMMISSIONER PERONA SAID, YOU AS A COMMITTEE, YOU ARE DIVINE.

GIVEN A SQUARE BOX AND HAVE TO GET IN YOUR BOX AND YOU HAVE TO LISTEN.

TO US WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LATITUDE I BELIEVE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

AND THAT'S WHY WAS VERY CLEAR-CUT THAT THE 2 IS WHO WE SHOULD BE BRINGING BACK.

I THINK THAT WAS DEMONSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS. THAT'S MY LIFE THE COMMITTEE TO WEIGH IN AN ERRANT DOWN FOR US. LET US MAKE THE DECISION. BOTH PROJECTS I'M SUPER EXCITED THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS IN FORT PIERCE. ASK ME TO.

THIS IS VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE THAT HER LITTLE CITY IS LOSSOMING AND IT'S VERY UNIQUE.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE. OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T REALLY HAVE. I WILL HAVE A LOT MORE COMMENTS.

SO. BACK TO MARY. >> WHAT WE WERE STRIVING FOR WHAT WERE REQUIRED TO DO IS HAVE A FAIR ROCESS. IN THE E PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED HAS BEEN FAIR. NOW WERE AT THIS POINT AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ING THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSER IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO BUT IT'S NOT WHAT THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO CONSIDER A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS FAIR IS THAT THEY ARE ONLY 2 POINTS APART. I HAVE NEVER SEEN DANCING WITH THE STARS. THAT'S REALLY THE TRUTH. BUT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF IT. IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE TRYING YOUR BEST TO BE OBJECTIVE. YOU'RE TRYING YOUR BEST. THE PROCESS IS SET UP FOR THAT.

AND, THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN UNDER A CONE OF SILENCE AND IF WE GO FORWARD WERE GOING TO HAVE 2 PROPOSERS WHICH I SUPPORT. WE CONTINUE TO BE UNDER A CONE OF SILENCE. FOR THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING I WONDER MR. SWEENEY IF YOU WOULD SHARE SO THAT WE ARE CLEAR ON WHAT WE DO AND ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS CLEAR WHAT WE DO GOING FORWARD. IF WE HAVE THE PRESENTERS COME BACK AND WE DON'T MAKE A

SELECTION TODAY. >> YES MA'AM. AS YOU INDICATED NOT ONLY HAVE YOU BEEN UNDER A CONE OF SILENCE HAVE VOLUNTARY IMPOSED ONE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO HAVE A STAFF DRIVEN SELECTION COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER A CONE OF SILENCE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE SUNSHINE LAWS AND COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON TALKS ABOUT IT.

THESE ARE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT ITEMS. I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT CONE OF SILENCE. AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO IN THIS PROCESS AND BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT SOMETHING AS CLOSE AS THIS, 2 POINTS IN A 500 POINT RANGE I THINK MR. DOBBINS ALLUDED LESS THAN HALF A PERCENTAGE POINT. IF THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND MAKE A PRESENTATION ENDED BEYOND THE MERIT OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS AT THAT TIME.

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AND IT NOT BE INFLUENCED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM IN THE INTERVENING TIME.

IT WILL NOW BE OUT OF THE HANDS OF MR. ANDREWS AND THE REST OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE.T'S GOING TO BE SOLELY IN YOUR HANDS AS IT IS TODAY. I THINK AGAIN THAT IS DEFINITELY THE MOST PRUDENT APPROACH. THAT'S THE APPROACH THIS COMMISSION TOOK LUMMI SELECTED AUDUBON AS A DEVELOPER FOR THE KINGS POWER PLANT SIDE.

THERE'S PRECEDENT FOR DOING THAT AS WELL. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO STRESS IS HEALTH FAIR AT LEAST I WANT TO BE AND I TAKE THAT FROM ALL OF OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. WE WANT TO BE FAIR. NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE WE KNOW HIM OF THE LOCALS. I MEAN OUR HEARTSTRINGS ARE TUGGED BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE FAIR TO THE OTHER PRESENTER. SO, I HAVE QUESTIONS TO YOU ALONE.

THAT I WANT ANSWERED THAT ARE ANSWERED HERE THAT I'M AFRAID THE COMMITTEE CAN ANSWER.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM THE ACTUAL APPLICANTS. AND I THINK STRESSING THAT THIS IS A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN AND THE PORT. REALLY BRINGS IT HOME TO ME HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND HOW SO MANY PEOPLE CAN HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. WHAT IS THAT LOOK LIKE, A BUFFER ZONE? DOES IT LOOK LIKE APARTMENTS, DOES IT LOOK LIKE A HOTEL, DOES LOOK LIKE A BOATHOUSE? WHAT IS A BUFFER ZONE LOOK LIKE AND EACH OF THESE, ALL 4 GAVE US A VERY DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT THAT LOOK LIKE. BUT, WE ALSO WANTED TO BE FRIENDLY PEOPLE PLACE. WE WANTED NOT JUST BUILDINGS BUT PEOPLE OUTSIDE ENJOYING THE WATERFRONT. WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS YEAR, YOU'RE GONNA GET TIRED OF HEARING THIS. THIS YEAR'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DIGGING OF THE PORT. MEAN THE DIGGING OF THE INLET, RIGHT? WITHOUT THIS INLET WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT FISHERMAN'S WHARF TODAY.E WENT HAVE A PORT.

WE WOULD BE A DIFFERENT FORT PIERCE. WE WOULD DO TO MACCABEE IS THIS DIFFERENT ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THAT INLET IS IMPORTANT BETWEEN THE INLET AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. THIS BECOMES A REALLY KEY PART OF THE WHOLE PUZZLE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION WITHOUT REALLY GIVING A FULL AUDIENCE TO THE 2 TOP GO-GETTERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPRUDENT AND WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS. SO, ANYTHIN ELSE?

ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? >> MAYOR?

>> YES. >> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONNECTION TO THIS AS A NEW COMMISSIONER. WE TRADED THIS AWAY, THE PORT, FISHERMAN'S WHARF WAS STRAIGHTAWAY FOR A RESTAURANT RIGHT HERE AT THIS COMMISSION. AS THE DISSENTING VOTER I JOINED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND WE WENT OVER AND DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND I TOOK 100 SOME PICTURES OF WHAT WE WERE GETTING AND TRADE. IT WAS OLD OFFICE BUILDING ON

INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. >> I DIDN'T KNOW YOU ACTUALLY VOTED IT AWAY.

OH OKAY. WAS 3 ÃONE. IN VOTIVE EXTENSION.

I WAS THE ONE AGAINST IT. I WENT OVER THERE NOT SAYING THIS FOR ANY OTHER REASON.

I'VE HAD A VISION FOR THAT FOR A LONG TIME. JUST PUTTING A RESTAURANT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND BE DONE WITH THAT AND TRADING IN A WEIGHT WAS A BIG MISTAKE FOR FORT PIERCE. FORTUNATELY THE COMMISSIONER SAW WHAT WE WERE GETTING AND TRADE WHICH WAS NOT VERY NICE. WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO IT. EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THIS MEANS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ME, NONE OF YOU WERE ON THE DAIS AT THAT TIME, I'M TELLING YOU.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOUR VOTE COUNTS THE MOST. THAT ONE THERE I THINK IS REALLY KEY BECAUSE NOW THE PORT IS BEING DEVELOPED. THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF IS THE BUFFER BETWEEN NOW AND DOWNTOWN. IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DRAW TO FOLKS SO THAT NOT JUST PILING UP AT KING'S LANDING OR THE SUNRISE THEATER OR WHATEVER.

WE HAVE A OLE 4 TO 5 BLOCKS OF WATERFRONT AREA THAT HAS ENTERTAINMENT GOING RESIDENTIAL AND ALL THE COMPONENTS YOU WOULD EXPECT IN A PERFECT CITY. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

I'M EXCITED.HE TEAM THAT WENT THROUGH THE SELECTION, I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THE COMMUNITY BRINGS TO THIS. THEY MAY NOT.

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THE CHARACTER, THE NEED, THE HISTORY, THE WANTS, DESIRES AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE IT FORT PIERCE. THAT'S THE PART THAT THE COMMUNITY BRINGS TO THIS PROJECT. I'M EXCITED WE'RE GONNA WAIT AND HOPEFULLY AND LOOK AT THE

FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. >> WE ARE IN AGREEMENT DO WE

NEED A MOTION, MR. MIMS? >> MADAM CHAIR. JUST THANKFULLY WE HAVE AN OPEN

E ON THE UPCOMING CALENDAR. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE. >> ONLY ONE.

[LAUGHTER]. >> THAT DATE IS MARCH 22. THAT IS ALMOST ABOUT 2 WEEKS FROM NOW. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD PROVIDE AMPLE TIME FOR THE HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSERS ARE ALL FOR PROPOSERS BASED UPON YOUR MOTION AND DIRECTION TODAY TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW. SO IF YOU WON'T GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AS WE CONTINUE TO PROGRESS THROUGH THIS RFP PROCESS WE CAN SET A DATE FOR A PRESENTATION FOR YOUR SHORT LIST OF CANDIDATES TO FULFILL THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING THE

HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSER. >> ALL RIGHT.'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> 22ND IS HER WHOLE DAY ANYWAY. ISN'T IT THE LAST DAY OF THE

MONTH WE WERE HOLDING? >> YES. THE ONE WE TRY NOT TO USE BUT

THIS IS IMPORTANT. [LAUGHTER]. >> THERE ARE 5 MONDAYS.

>> YES THERE ARE. >> MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO DO SUCH A THING I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU HAVE 2 PROPOSERS YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME LIMIT RESERVE FOR EACH ONE. JUST TO CONTINUE THE FAIRNESS. AS YOU RECALL WE DID THAT FOR

THE KING'S POWER PLANT WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING. >> WAS A 20 MINUTES APIECE?

>> I DEFER TO WHATEVER YOU SEE FAIR. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND AT LEAST 30 MINUTES MAY BE A SMALL BREAK IN BETWEEN THE PRESENTATIONS. THAT WOULD GIVE YOU AMPLE TIME FOR CONSIDERATION THEN COME BACK AND BEGAN TO MAKE YOUR DETERMINATION.

>> WE WILL HAVE OUR PROCUREMENT PROFESSIONALS HERE TO GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ENSURE

THAT WERE DOING IT RIGHT. >> 30 TOTAL? >> 30+15 I THINK.

IS THAT WHAT WE DID? 45 THEN. >> YES, IT WORKED WELL.

>> IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. >> MARCH 22 IS OPEN. >> IT IS OPEN.

>> I HAVE IT SET RIGHT NOW AT 9:30 AS WELL. 9 IN THE MORNING.> THAT

CHANGES MY FORMULA. HOLD ON. >> VACATION DAY, THAT'S WHAT

I'M SAYING. >> I'M SORRY, OKAY. >> IS THERE MORE DISCUSSION ARE

YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? >> MADAM AIR, SO I THINK THE AGENDA ITEM I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO MAKE SURE MR. SWEENEY, YEAH. WE HAVE THE OPTIONS OF GOING WHEREVER.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE 2 HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSERS AND INVITE THEM BACK TO THIS BOARD IN A PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AND DO PRESENTATIONS TO THIS FPRA BOARD FOR 30 MINUTES WITH 15 MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE SPORT AND A BREAK IN BETWEEN. WE WILL HAVE THEM BOTH ONE AT A TIME.

I'M GOING TO STOP AND PAUSE MY MOTION, DO WE MAKE THIS LAST TIME TO WHERE ONE STATE OUT OF

THE ROOM AND ONE STAYED IN? >> YES THAT'S HOW WE DID IT. >> MY RECOLLECTION IS THEY DID

STAY INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER. >> BACK TO THE MOTION. INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FOR CLARIFICATION? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. TRY

>> THANK YOU VERY CH. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 301 S. OCEAN DRIVE.

[b. 301 S. Ocean Drive Approval of a twelve (12) month lease agreement Discussion on possible demolition of existing commercial structure for the expansion of the parking lot]

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF A 12 MONTH LEASE AGREEMENT AND ALSO DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE OF THE EXPANSION OF THE PARKING LOT.

>> ALL RIGHT, MR. MIMS. >> MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WE DO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS MR. MIKE REELS WAS BEEN IN CHARGE OF THIS TASK AND HE IS ALSO THE SUPERVISOR AND PURVEYOR OF ALL OF OUR LEASES WITH FACILITIES AND BUILDINGS.

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AND WHAT HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE TO TODAY'S AN UPDATE OF OUR CONTINUING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OWNERS OF THE BUSINESS AT 301 S. OCEAN DRIVE. OUR TEMPORARY PARKING SITUATION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AT

THIS TIME. >> MR. REELS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE FRP BOARD. GIVE ME ONE SECOND WERE HAVING A FEW TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES HERE. HERE WE GO.

MAYBE. >> I SEE A TAB UP THERE MIKE. IS HE THAT TAB?

>> YEP COMING UP COMING UP. HANG ON. >> JUSTKEEPS COMING BACK,

DOESN'T IT? I HAVE THAT AT HOME. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE TO REBOOT ADOBE. THAT'S ALL IT IS. MAYBE?

YEAH. >> JUST GET OUT OF IT ALTOGETHER AND START OVER.

>> IT'S ON A PRESENTATION IT'S JUST THE LEASE. >> YOU CAN ALWAYS PULL IT FROM

THE AGENDA ITEM. >> THERE WE GO. OKAY.

OUR FIRST ITEM OF DISCUSSION IS JUST THE APPROVAL OF THE ONE YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH OUR TENANT THROUGH ONE S. OCEAN. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. IF NOT THAT'S A SIMPLE ONE WE CAN MOVE ON FROM.

WE ARE APPROXIMATELY HALFWAY THROUGH THIS LEASE AGREEMENT. >> YOUR RECOMMENDING APPROVAL?

>> YES MA'AM. P>> ANY DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS? IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE NEXT ITEM, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?> THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE NEXT ITEM. THE NEXT ITEM WHEN WE PRESENTED ORIGINALLY THE POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THAT FACILITY IT WAS DECIDED AT THAT TIME WE WOULD COME BACK ABOUT 6 MONTHS INTO THE YEAR AND DISCUSS AGAIN TO SEE WHAT OUR FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE.

>>. >> MADAM AIR? >> YES.

I JUST WENT BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. I AGREE WITH THE SCENARIO.

WERE NOT READY YET. WERE NOT MAKING ANY MOVES. WE ARE PARKING AREA NOW.

THAT SUPPORTS 45? >> APPROXIMATELY. >> 45 PARKING SPACES AND WE WERE GOING TO INCREASE IT BY 14. I MEAN, HERE WE HAVE REVENUE COMING IN. IF AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST LEAVE AS IS.

WE ARE PROVIDE A PUBLIC PARKING. I'M GOOD WITH HIS PROPOSAL.

IN MY PERSPECTIVE. >> ADAM, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. WAS THE PROPOSAL.

IT'S 14 ADDITIONAL? >> YES. >> OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF LIVING ON THE PART OF FORT PIERCE.

I FREQUENT THAT OVER THERE. PARKING IS AN ISSUE OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST CURIOUS? NEXT IN SEASON IT IS AN ISSUE. NOT IN SEASON IT'S GETTING TO

BE A PROBLEM. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> MR. REELS YOU WANT US TO ACT ON THIS AND YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ITEM?

>> YES PLEASE. WERE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON APPROVAL OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. >> DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE. THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

>> IS OUR SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> ALL RIGHT MR. REAL NEXT ITEM. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS FOR US TO DISCUSS FURTHER THE POSSIBLE DEMOLITION OF THE SITE. WHEN ITEM IS WORKING AS WORD.

JUST FOR YOUR REVIEW THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE COST OF WHAT IT WOULD BE TO REMOVE THAT FACILITY TODAY. MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO GAIN THOSE 14 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS AND PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AT THAT LOCATION. THAT WAS 26,500.

CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS PROVIDING $2130 PER MONTH IN REVENUE TO THE FPRA.

>> WHAT IS THE STATUS OF HOW IT'S BEING USED? IS IT BEING HEAVILY USED?

LIGHTLY USED? >> THE PARKING AREA? BUCKS I COULD SHARE WITH THE

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BOARD THAT I WAS ON THE ISLAND SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND IT WAS FULL.

>> IT WAS FULL. >> OKAY. WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

CE. [LAUGHTER]. O ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO FIND

SOMETHING TO SHOW S? OKAY. >> I'M TRYING TO PULL UP THE RENDERING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHOUT, THERE WE GO. IF THE FACILITY WAS REMOVED.

THAT'S WHAT OUR PARKING AREA WILL LOOK LIKE. AREA, THE TOP RIGHT AREA RIGHT HERE. IS WHERE WE WOULD GAIN THE 14 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.

>> SO, WHY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY? >> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR I BELIEVE ALMOST A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE WAS TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING TO ENHANCE AND INCREASE THE NUMBER PARKING SPACES.

ME PERSONALLY COMING FROM MY OFFICE I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DESIGN OR CONCEPT OR SOME SORT OF PARTNER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PARKING STRUCTURE, MIXED-USE FACILITY. WE HAVE A VIABLE BUSINESS THAT IS GENERATING REVENUE. WERE TALKING ABOUT 14 DIRT PARKING SPACES.

>> BRIGHT. >> I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN SUCH A DIRE NEED THAT WE NEED TO END

A BUSINESS FOR THAT PURPOSE. >> RUSH INTO IT. YEAH, EVEN THOUGH WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR 2 YEARS. WE STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED ON WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE

PROPERTY. YES SIR? >> YEAH, IT'S 14 SPACES BUT, IT'S ALSO IDENTITY FOR THE PARKING LOT ITSELF. THE BUILDING BEING RIGHT OUT THERE ON THE STREET LEVEL. THE CONVERSATION FOR THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS YOU REALLY DON'T NOTICE THERE'S A PARKING LOT THERE. AND THE SIGN YOU PUT THERE IS

THE BIGGEST SIGN I'VE EVER SEEN IN FORT PIERCE. >> DOESN'T BLINK THOUGH

PROBABLY. >> YOU STAND ON THE CORNER AND SAY WHERE'S THE FREE PARKING OUT. THERE'S A SIGN THAT'S READY FEET LONG THAT SAYS FREE PARKING. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. LOOKING AT LONG-TERM AS FAR AS THE NEEDS FOR THE ISLAND AND THOSE FUTURE TERMS ARE HERE RIGHT NOW.

EVEN THE PAIN PARKING LOT THERE AT THE CORNER OF SEAWAY AND A 1A WAS ALMOST FULL THIS WEEKEND. NORMALLY I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH ACTIVITY THERE.

SHE IS INDICATIVE OF ALL THE FREE PARKING GONE. WE ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM NOT. MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THE LADY THAT RUNS THAT STORE, WE KEEP TELLING HER TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM HER. THERE'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

THERE'S REPAIRS, THERE'S THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO KEEP A STORE LIKE THIS GOING.

IF ARE GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT I DON'T THINK WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IT.

IF WE ARE CHANGING ANY OF THAT WE NEED TO DO IT IN A PERIOD OF TIME THAT ALLOWS THE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO RUN THAT BUSINESS. KNOWING THEY HAVE THAT TIME TO BE ABLE TO INVEST GET THE MONEY

OUT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. >> ABOUT AMERICA? I AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER.

YEAH, YOU HAVE AMPLE NOTICE AND AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUSINESS TO RELOCATE AND DO WHATEVER PLAN PLAN B, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. AT THE SAME TIME RUNNING IN PARALLEL WITH THAT OR JUST STARTING THE STARTING THIS IS NICE.

IS IT REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO BE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO BE RIGHT? 60 PARKING SPACES GOING FROM 46 TO 60.

YOU KNOW, A 4 INTO IT WITH WHAT MR. MIMS RECOMMENDATION IS YOU KNOW LET'S START LAYING OUT A PLAN. LET'S START LAYING OUT THE FINANCES.

LAYING OUT THE BUDGET ASPECTS. MAYBE IT'S RFP, RFQ PROCESS WILL REPUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL PARKING FACILITIES HERE ON THIS PARCEL OF LAND.

YOU KNOW I'M READY TO SEE THOSE THINGS IF THEY WANT TO ENACT STAFF TO DO THAT.

LET'S GO ABOUT IT. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS DRAWING IS WHAT OUR FUTURE IS.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. LET'S PUT THE PLAN IN PLACE AND PUT MONEY WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. OR START STORING IT AND SAVING IT INTO A RESERVE FUND FOR THIS

OPPORTUNITY. >> MADAM AIR? >> YES SIR.

SIR. >> IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WE HAVE PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT MOUNT

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ON THE ISLAND. MOST PEOPLE DON'T E WHAT MOST COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SQUARE-FOOT THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO SOME COMMERCIAL ENTITY.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THERE AGAIN IS PARKING. WHEN WE START BUILDING THAT WHOLE CORNER UP AND GO ALL THE WAY ON SEAWAY ON THE EAST END OF SEAWAY NEXT TO SQUARE GROUP AND THINGS LIKE THAT YOU START DEVELOPING ALL THAT. YOU WILL END UP WITH FOLKS OUT THERE THAT HAVE NO WHERE TO PARK. AND THAT'S WHERE I THANK YOU'RE COMING AT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS THE FACT THAT YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DON'T LOOK AT IT SURFACE LOT WHEN YOU SEE THIS DO YOU? YOU LOOKING AT LEVELS DON'T

YOU? >> YES SIR. >> SO MY.

THAT WILL BE THE SOLUTION RIGHT THERE. THAT'S GOOD TO BE THE SOLUTION SOONER THAN LATER WHY DO WE EVEN MESS AROUND WITH THIS? WE CAN KEEP WHAT WE HAVE LONG ENOUGH TO GO UNTIL READY TO CERTAIN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. HOPEFULLY.

I'VE GOT A FEELING THE WAY THINGS ARE MOVING RIGHT NOW WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE FINDING A PRIVATE PARTNER OUT THERE. IF YOU'RE WATCHING TONIGHT AND YOU SEE WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE THIS MAY BE SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.

>> MADAM AIR COULD. >> THAT WOULD BE MY STION. AS A NEWBIE ROOKIE HERE.

I FREQUENT THAT AREA EVERY NOW AND AGAIN. I'M FULLY WITH IT.

WHAT IS OUR PLAN WITH THIS HIS AREA? I SEE SOMETHING BEFORE ME THAT'S A A 60S BASIS OF . HOW WE THOUGHT UT FORMALIZING THAT PROCESS TO TEST THE WATERS TO EVEN SEE THAT WE CAN HAVE A PLAN. HOW WE FORMULATE A PLAN IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE OR EVEN PROPOSED. WE'VE SEEN SOME THINGS TONIGHT FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT GETS OUR IMAGINATION GOING. IN FITS.

THAT'S MY QUESTION. HOW DO WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> YES SIR. I BELIEVE IT WAS BACK IN IN 2016 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WE HIRED WALKER PARKING CONSULTANTS TO DO A PARKING STUDY FOR OUR BEACH AND OR DOWNTOWN. IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT WE HAD SOME PARKING STRUGGLES IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS. WE STILL DO AND WE SHALL CONTINUE TO DO BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE IN FORT PIERCE. HOWEVER, OUR ONE OF THE MAJOR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT WAS LAUNCHED DURING THAT TIME WAS IDENTIFYING FUTURE PUBLIC PARKING AREAS. THIS WAS A PRIME CANDIDATE. THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL CANDIDATE AS A MATTER OF FACT. IT WAS BETWEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS.

IT HAS A DIRECT BEACH ACCESS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S IN A GREAT LOCATION.

BUT, WE HAVE NOT ENACTED A LONG-TERM STRATEGY. AS THE COMMISSIONERS WERE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE ONLY TALKED ABOUT DOING MINOR IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WE DO HEALTH PARKING THERE CURRENTLY. IT IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC.

WE DON'T HAVE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. I DO BELIEVE THAT BASED UPON THE MOMENTUM IN THE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING I DO BELIEVE RELATIVELY SOON WE CAN GET A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER TO LOOK AT A VERTICAL STRUCTURE ESPECIALLY ON THE BEACH.WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION TO ASSIST WITH OUR PARKING NEEDS.

>> I WOULD AGREE. I THINK THAT COULD BRING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING AS WELL AS ADD ADDITIONAL RETAIL OR SOME TYPE OF ACCOMMODATION. THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2016. SOME OF THESE VERTICA STRUCTURES ARE NOW QUITE CREATIVE. I'VE EVEN SEEN THEM IN OTHER CITIES OF LIPTON THAT HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED NOW SO THEY HAVE A NICE LIVES WITH A DRIVE IT IN AND STACK THEM ON TOP OF EACH OTHER MECHANICALLY AND NOT. I THINK WE PROBABL AT SOME POINT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MOVE THIS FORWARD BUT, AT LEAST BEGIN TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT? IF I UNDERSTAND IT WE HAVE AT LEAST THAT'S PAYING FOR THE AT LEAST NEXT YEAR RIGHT? YOUR WILL GO BY PRETTY QUICKLY. I DON'T WANT US TO NOT, OR HAVING TO COME BACK AND REDO IT. AS WE LOOK AT THIS AS A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT IT MAY BEHOOVE US TO TRY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING A TEST THE WATERS AND SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE.

>> YUP. >> IT'S A VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>> MADAM AIR? ANOTHER THING TO TO CONSIDER, WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH REEBIE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IMPACT OR WHAT POSITIVE IMPACT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS PARKING STRUCTURE, PARKING LOT, WHAT EVERYONE CALLED AT THIS POINT. THAT MIGHT BE BECOME THEIR HUB WITH A PARK VEHICLES ON THE BEACH DURING THE PEAK TIMES AND FOLKS ARE NOW DRIVEN TO THIS PARKING LOT NOW THEY'RE GETTING

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A RIDE TO THE INLET. >> AND OTHER DESTINATIONS. RIGHT.

COULD WE VERY WELL BEING. VERTICAL STRUCTURE WITH FREEBIE THERE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS GOING ON. I THINK DEFINITELY LOOKING AT A VERTICAL OPPORTUNITY MAY BE

GREAT. >> TO MOVE ON THAT TODAY AND SAY LET'S LOOK FOR IT?

OR WE SAY LET'S COME BACK IN 6 MONTHS AND REVIEW THIS? >> I'M GOING TO SAY IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT JUST DUE TO THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, INCREASE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES, THE INCREASED NUMBER OF VISITORS WITHIN THIS 12 MONTH TIMEFRAME WE SHOULD HAVE DEVELOPED A CONCEPT WITH WHICH WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD ON UPON THE CONCLUSION OF THIS 12 MONTH LEASE. IF WE START THAT LEASE TODAY OR AT A CERTAIN TIME THEM WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME WE WOULD HAVE RESEARCHED, GONE FORWARD WITH THE NECESSARY RFP LANGUAGE, SOUGHT DEVELOPER PARTNERS GIVES STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO REALIZE WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT

PARTNER WE CAN ATTRACT. >> THEN WE WILL BE PREPARED BECAUSE WERE LOCKED IN FOR A

YEAR ANYWAY. >> MADAM CHAIR.IKE AND I BOTH WANT TO ALLUDE TO SOMETHING THAT THE OPERATOR IS A VERY NICE LADY. I BELIEVE SHE'S IN HER LATE

80S. >> WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT AGE.

TALKS WITH WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? WE DON'T DO THAT.

[LAUGHTER]. >> THE ONLY THING I MENTIONED THAT IF SHE CEASES TO OPERATION, IF IT'S OUT THERE YOU CAN ALWAYS REJECT PROPOSALS.

YOU COULD SEEK MORE PROPOSALS, ALL THOSE THINGS. >> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THE ONLY THING ONE CLARIFIES REALLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 6 MONTHS

REMAINING ON THIS LEASE.IT'S TAKING IT TO AUGUST 2020. >> AND I ONLY HAVE 6 MONTHS.

[LAUGHTER]. >> AND SOME FOLLOW THAT VERITY VISITED THIS ONCE BECAUSE REALLY WE COULD ONLY EXTENDED FOR UP TO ONE YEAR WITHOUT IT GOING BACK UNDER OUR PROCUREMENT CODE TO GO BACK ON THE STREETS. HER HANDS ARE SORT OF TIGHT FOR

MOVING FORWARD WITH AN RFQ ANYWAY. >> WITHOUT AGREEMENT A ONE TIME

ONE YEAR EXTENSION? >> ONE-TIME 364 DAY EXTENSION. >> OKAY.

>> THAT PAINTS A PICTURE. >> THANK YOU. >> GIVES YOU GOAL.A LITTLE

SOONER THAN YOU THOUGHT. SO DO WE NEED ACTION ON THIS? >> I THINK WERE GOOD.

>> YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS? >> WE'VE GOT FEEDBACK AS A STAFF AND WILL MOVE FORWARD

ACCORDINGLY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU MIKE.

>> WE HAVE 6 MONTHS TO DO SOMETHING. PWILL PUT AN RFP OUT THERE NO MATTER WHAT. EITHER OPERATE THE BUSINESS OUT THERE OR OPERATE THE BUSINESS AND EXTRA. NEXT RIGHT. THANK U.

[c. CRA Advisory Committee Recommendations]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A CRA PRICE READ COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> MADAM CHAIR. WE DO HAVE OUR CHAIR OF THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE MR. CHARLIE FRANK MATTHEWS. AND WE HAVE THE VICE CHAIR HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE

PREVIOUS READINGS OF THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.>> WELCOME.

>> YES TO THE CHAIRMAN ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS CHARLIE FRANK MATTHEWS AND I HAVE VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE MISS SABRINA TAYLOR.

WE HAVE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT IS STILL PRESENT. I THINK ABOUT 4 OF US SHOWED UP. LET ME TELL YOU WE HAVE 2 RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WILL SIDESTEP ONE SECOND BEFORE I TELL YOU WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE COMMISSIONER PERONA BECAUSE I WAS HERE AT THAT MEETING WHEN HE DID THAT CONSENTING VOTE AND I THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH HIM BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE

WAS WAITING THE OTHER WAY. >> THAT HAPPENS A LOT. [LAUGHTER].

>> THE NEW GUY AND HE IS ONE OF THE OLDER GUYS. [LAUGHTER].

>> WE MET WITH THE ITEM OF THE CRA COMMITTEE WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND ITEM.

LITTLE HISTORY TO THIS THAT YOU PUT OUT A PROPOSAL SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THE SUNRAY CENTER. FOR THOSE OF THE AUDIENCE OF THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THERE'S A FRONT END OF THE PROPERTY AT THE GARAGE IS FACING ORANGE AVENUE. THIS TREE SAYS IT WAS BUILT IN 2005.

AND FROM 2005 FROM NOW WE NEED TO MAKE SOME REVENUE AND WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

I SAID THIS PROPOSAL SHOULD BE SHORT, SUITE AND WONDERFUL IF YOU APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.

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IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE AND WE FEEL STRONGLY WE CAN GET SOME USE OF THAT PUT IT OUT.

>> WE HAVE 2 JUST WANT? >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA TAKE THE ACTION ON ONE.

AND I WOULD SIT ON DOWN AND LET TAYLOR TAKE OVER. >> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO DO. IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> YES. >> SALOME ASKING. LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

IN YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THAT AREA I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 4 5000 SQUARE FEET.

4000 SQUARE FEET.ID YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON WHETHER TO KEEP IT ON THE GOVERNMENTAL SIDE OR TO GO-AHEAD AND I OPPORTUNITY FOR RETAIL OR GOVERNMENT?

>> WE WOULD HOPING WE WOULD USE THE WORD SOFT BUSINESS. WITHOUT MAYBE SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE LIKE A BUSINESSLIKE INSURANCE. THE BUSINESS OF THAT SORT WOULD BE FIRST PRIORITY IF THEY COME IN. I KNOW IN CITY HALL YOU DON'T

WANT A LOT OF MUSIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE PROPERTY. >> RIGHT.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE GUARDIAN LEIDEN PROGRAM MOVING INTO FLOOR NUMBER 2. ALL PBUILDING DEPARTMENT LIVING ALREADY THERE A FLOOR NUMBER 3. SO YEAH, I KNOW YEARS AGO DEFINITELY WAS NOT ON THIS COMMISSION AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS TRICKY BUT I GOT TO WATCH IT FROM THE AUDIENCE. THE DISCUSSION OF THE ENVIRONMENT OF WHAT TO DO WITHOUT SPACE. IS IT REALLY COMPETING WITH DOWNTOWN?S IT NONCOMPETING? EVERYONE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDS THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THAT.

WAS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WAS OR ANY MEMBER THAT BROUGHT UP A WORRY ABOUT SUCH A THING OR NO?

>> I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING SAD ABOUT A COFFEE SHOP. WE RECOGNIZE WE DIDN'T WANT ANY COMPETITION FOR THE ONCE OVER CLOSE. WE PASS THROUGH THAT.

THERE WAS EVEN A NOTE AND SAID WE'D ENOUGH CHURCHES IN TOWN. E TALKED ABOUT IT ALL.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I THINK A SOLID BUSINESS WOULD BE GREAT.E PUT A

PROPOSAL OUT HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NUMBER. >> RIGHT.

RIGHT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THE FIRST FLOOR THE SUNRISE CENTER WHICH IS ON THE STOREFRONT ON ORANGE. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> YEAH. MADAM CHAIR MOVE IS THE FPRA BOARD ON ITEM 1 MOVE THAT WE TAKE THAT ACTION AND PAST STAFF WITH PUTTING ON FPR, RFP ON THAT.

>> WHATEVER APPEARED. >> AKIO RST WXY SAY. YOU KNOW THE LETTERS THAT APPLY. PUT OUGHT RFQ ON THE PROCESS. SEE WHAT WE GET BACK.

LET'S GO SHING. [LAUGHTER]. ELEMENTAL P. LET'S GO FISHING.

[LAUGHTER]. >> IS OUR SECOND TO THAT? QUICK SECOND.

ANYONE DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU.. >> WELCOME SABRINA. >> COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU AND CERTAINLY A VERY PROUD TO HAVE GARNERED THE SUPPORT OF THE VICE STOMACH ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND SITTING IN THE SECOND POSITION BEING THE VICE CHAIR. OUR SECOND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION THE RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PRESENTED BY CHAD INGRAM AS IT RELATES TO FLEXIBLE ZONING AND INCENTIVIZING TAX LIEN MITIGATION AND CONCEPTS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IF YOU MAY RECALL THIS IS DEFINITELY AN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR PROJECTED GOALS FOR THE CRA. AS A RELATES TO CERTAINLY ENCOURAGING AFFORDABLE HOME DEVELOPMENT IN THE LINCOLN PARK CREEK AREA. I KNOW MR. INGRAM IS GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU RIGHT AFTER WE FINISH. ALSO WE WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION BECAUSE AGAIN NOT ONLY DOES IT CONSIDER AFFORDABLE

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HOMEOWNERSHIP AND ALSO IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPPORTIVE AND FRIENDLY AS WELL.

SO I WAS VERY REFRESHING TO RECEIVE THIS TYPE OF PRESENTATION.

WHICH ENCOURAGED US TO BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.

>> I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE JUST SIGN OFF ON ACCEPTING IT.

I THINK I PERSONALLY TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY THE CRA COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING IT.

YOU'VE EDITED AND YOU WANT US TO TAKE IT UP AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

BUT, NOT SURE I'M READY TO DO THAT UNTIL I HEAR THE PRESENTATION.

HOW DOES THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FEEL? >> I AGREE META-MERIT.

GETTING READY TO HEAR A PRESENTATION. IT'S THE NEXT ITEM.

YOU KNOW, >> WILL STRONGLY TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS

HAVE SEEN IT AND YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.IT. >> IS OUR HOPE THAT YOU WOULD SHARE THAT EXCITEMENT AS WELL ONCE MR. . INGRAM, THANK YOU FOR THE IDERATION.

>> SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO ACT ON THIS. WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING US.

>> AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT COMMITTEE. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, ARE YOU GONNA HANG OUT FOR THE PRESENTATION?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> MAYBE WE WILL HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ADVISORY

[d. Residential infill development strategies presentation by Chad Ingram]

COMMITTEE. I FEEL LIKE THE KIDS COME UP MAY I BE EXCUSED?

>> YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PRESENTATION BY CHAD INGRAM.

>> MR. MIMS? >> MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU MR. CHAD INGRAM AND MR. INGRAM IS GOING TO BRING TO YOU SOME CONCEPTS FOR RESIDENTIAL INFIELD REDEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY AND OUR CORE AREA OF OUR CITY.

NOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL INCENTIVES AND WE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH OUR MUNICIPAL LIEN PROCESS. WHETHER CODE LIENS AND OR HARD COST WITH OUR ACCRUED FEES.

I BELIEVE WHAT MR. INGRAM IS ABOUT TO BRING TO YOU TODAY IS GOING TO ENLIGHTEN YOU, IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER AVENUE WITH WHICH TO CONSIDER AND I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT MR.

INGRAM HERE TODAY. >> MR. INGRAM, WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM ERROR. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVING ME HERE.

I STARTED LOOKING AT THE LINCOLN PARK K AREA ABOUT 3 YEARS S AGO.

IT WAS AN INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY I WAS LOOKING WHEN I PLACED INVESTMENTS ALL OVER THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA I STARTED TO NOTICE I WAS GETTING NO REDEMPTIONS FROM A PARTICULAR AREA AND IT WAS LINCOLN PARK. DROVE UP HERE FROM MIAMI TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WAS SAID. I HAD HEARD IT'S A WAR ZONE.

IF THIS PLACE WE SHOULD BE SCARED TO WALK AROUND AND I ENDED UP FALLING IN LOVE WITH IT. I'M WALKING DOWN MORRIS CREEK AND IC BEAUTIFUL BLUE HERRINGS

AND CRANES AND TURTLES. >> AND MORRIS CREEK? >> AND ALL OF IT THAT'S THERE APPEARED A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING, LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH DEVELOPMENT? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE VACANT LOTS? AS YOU ALL KNOW A CERTAIN POINT THE CITY DECIDED TO DEMOLISH THIS A LOT OF HOMES AND WHATEVER THE REASON.

IT IS NOW SOUND LIKE THAT SENSE THOSE DECISIONS. SINCE THAT DECISION YOU CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY THAT THE DEMOLITION OF THOSE HOMES IN THE WAY THE VACANT LOTS IS TREATED AS PART OF THE CONTINUAL BLIGHT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AT THE BEGINNING I WANTED TO DESIGN HOUSES AND BUILD SMALL HOUSES AND LOOKING AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD I WAS DEVELOPING IN AN INSTRUCTIVE KIND OF MENTALITY WITH BUILDING HOMES, RENTING THEM OUT AND SELLING THEM. I HAD TO BACKTRACK AND TRY TO FIND A WAY TO SERVICE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING OFF OF THE EIGHBORHOOD. I STARTED WITH SIMPLY CUTTING DOWN BLIGHT WHEN I SAW IT.

IF I SOUND OVERGROWN UP MY WEEKEND I PUT MY WEED BACKGROUND AND JUST START CHOPPING IT DOWN. AS YOU KNOW THAT'S A PART OF THE PROBLEM.

IT'S JUST THIS PERPETUAL CYCLE. I STARTED TO READ THE MUNICIPAL CODES OF DIFFERENT AREAS TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DEALT WITH THEIR ISSUES.

DOING THAT TRIED TO COMBINE IT WITH A SENSE OF PERMIT CULTURE DESIGN.

SIMPLY A WAY TO TRY TO DESIGN HOW YOU LIVED WHERE YOU LIVED, THE SITUATION OF YOUR HOUSE

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COMPARED TO WHERE YOU WORK WHERE YOU GET FOOD SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

TO GET TO THAT MATERIAL TO BUILD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO IMPLEMENT THE KINDS OF CLIENTS WE HAVE IN THE WAY WE WANT TO LIVED WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BLIGHTED LOTS ON THE MONIES THAT ARE OWED TO THE CITY ON THOSE LIGHTS. THE FIRST THING I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO IS STOP DIGGING THE HOLE AND TO FORECLOSE ON AS MANY OF THE PROPERTIES AS YOU CAN THAT HAVE SPREADING LIENS. THE SPREADING NATURE OF THOSE LIENS FILED THE TITLES.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO UNRAVEL THEM EVEN IF YOU DID WANT TO BUY THEM.

MANY BUY A LOT FOR 4000 $5000 YOU FIND OUT THE CITY IS OWED $60,000 ON IT AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE PYOUR LOT FOR MANY OF THE OTHER ONES EVEN IN YOUR DEALINGS WITH THE CITY LET ALONE THE COURTS. SO IF THE CITY WERE TO FORECLOSE OR THE BOARD WAS TO FORECLOSE ON THESE LOTS WE COULD CLEAR SOME OF THAT ISSUE WITH THE TITLE. I'VE NOTICED WITH THE LOTS THAT ARE AUCTIONED OFF IN THE TAX DEED SALES ARE GENERALLY RECEIVING MORE MONEY THAN IS OWED ON THEIR TAXES.

I ASK YOU THAT ONCE YOU FORECLOSE ON THEM THAT YOU FILED TO CLAIM ANY AUCTION SURPLUS FROM THOSE FUNDS TO ACCOUNT FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD STILL OVERDO WITH HER TAX LIENS. THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT MONEY RIGHT AWAY.

THEN I WOULD USE AGAIN PERMIT CULTURE BUT TRY TO USE WHAT'S AROUND US TO CREATE SOME SOLUTIONS. THE LOTS BEING OVERGROWN AND YOU GUYS SENDING CRUISE AROUND TO CUT THOSE LOTS AND YOU ALSO SEND CRUISE AROUND TO CUT TREES AND SHRED THEM OUT.

IF YOU TOOK THE CRUISE THAT WERE SHREDDING UP THE TREES AND HAVE THEM SPREAD IT ON THE LOTS THAT WEAVES WHAT A GIRL. SO WE'D BE ABLE TO CUT THE COST IN HOUSE.

THEN THERE'S OVERLY AGGRESSIVE MODEL OR YOU COULD TAKE THOSE LIENS THAT ARE OWED ON THE SPREADING PROPERTIES AND BREAK THEM INTO NON-AD VALOREM TAXES. DOING THAT YOU START TO RECOUP THAT MONEY IS PEOPLED BY TAX LIENS AND TAX DEEDS. AS YOU KNOW YOU DO GET SOME RECOUP OF THOSE DOLLARS FROM THAT SYSTEM. ANYTIME SOMEONE FILES A TEXTING APPLICATION TO GETTING BACK AT LEAST 7 YEARS WORTH OF GOD. THEN YOU CAN ALSO SPLIT UP THOSE LIENS SPREADING THEM INTO THE NON-AD VALOREM TAXES AS YOU CHOOSE UP TO 50 YEARS OR SO.

YOU'RE TERRIBLY GOING TO BE RECOUPING THAT MONEY WITH A NOT AD VALOREM TAXES AS OPPOSED TO LETTING THAT MONEY DISAPPEAR AFTER 70 YEARS OF A TAX LIEN. THE TAX LIENS DO EXPIRE AFTER 70 YEARS BUT I WOULD TAKE THAT NOD AD VALOREM TAX ADDED TO THE END AND INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU ALWAYS THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU WAS THIS NUMBER OF PAYMENTS. THAT WILL MAKE IT SO IF SOMEBODY OR ONE FALLS OFF YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE IT BACK TO THE END.

THEN THERE'S THIS IDEA OF SPARKING PEOPLE'S IDEA OF LIVING IN LINCOLN PARK AND DEVELOPING THOSE LOTS EVEN WHEN IT'S FREED. I OFFERED TO CLEAR THE LIENS FOR OWNER BUILDERS AND PROFESSIONAL BUILDERS WHO WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT DEED RESTRICTIONS OR SIGN NEW DEEDS OF THE CITY. MAKING IT SO THE HOMES REMAIN AT AN AFFORDABLE LEVEL, AFFORDABLE WOULD BE DEFINED BY THE CRA.

IN SUBSEQUENT SALES BEFORE A 10 YEAR PERIOD WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE BOARD AND IT WILL LIMIT THE SALES PRICE TO ABOUT 1:30 PERCENT OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL PRICE WAS.

SO YOU MAINTAIN A SENSE OF AFFORDABILITY THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'D SAY AFTER 10 YEARS OF CONTINUOUS OWNERSHIP FROM THESE KINDS OF SALES THAN THE PERSON WOULD BE RELEASED FROM ANY PROFIT RESTRICTIONS. BUT, THERE WOULD BE A 6-MONTH EXCLUSIVE MARKETING TO FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS SO SERVE THAT MARKET WHO KEEPS GETTING OUT BID. I ALSO PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS, OR IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS GIVE THE CITY THE ABILITY TO INSPECT THE HOME EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS FOR THE LIFE OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE GOT TO THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE IS THE CITY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO GO INTO SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES AND INSPECT THEM AND LEAD WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO IT OR POSSIBLY USE SOME KIND OF MITIGATION PRACTICE TO STOP IT SO YOU WONT HAVE TO KNOCK DOWN SO MANY OF THESE LOTS.

I WOULD ALSO FORGIVE THE LIENS FOR HOMES THAT WERE MARKETED TO FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS INTO I'M SORRY LOTS, IF THE LOTS WERE OFFERED TO FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS THIS IS BEFORE SOMEBODY WOULD BUILD ON IT. THE CITY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LENIENT ON THEM BECAUSE ARE

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GOING TO DO THE BUILDING. THERE LIVED THERE. THEY WILL PROMISE A LIVED THERE FOR 5 YEARS. CURRENTLY YOUR OWNER BUILDER POLICY ONLY REQUIRES SOMEONE TO LIVED THERE FOR ONE YEAR. THIS WOULD BE NO PROFIT RESTRICTIONS OF THE LIVE THROUGH A 5-YEAR PERIOD. THE CITY, IF HE SOLD IT PREMATURELY IT WOULD KICK IN THE SAME ROLES FROM BEFORE BUT THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEN INSPECT AND THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF PROFIT BEING SOLD.

THIS WOULD ALL BE AGREED TO AT THE BEGINNING. THIS WOULD BE B,10 WORTH OF CONTINUOUS OWNERSHIP AND IT WOULD BE 3 MONTHS FOR AN EXCLUSIVE MARKETING TO FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS. AGAIN FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING OUT BID.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF YOUR PROPERTY I THANK YOU'RE CALLING IT OAKS AT MORRIS CREEK IN THE BACK. I BELIEVE THERE'S ALREADY A FIRM HIRED TO BUILD THIS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL HOUSE TO BUILD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CHOSEN DESIGN. I WOULD HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR BUILDERS LOOK AT THE DESIGN WE'VE PUT TOGETHER COULD TRY TO TAKE THE COST OF TINY, 320 SQUARE FEET FROM WHAT WAS AVERAGED AT HUNDRED $20,000 TO DELIVER AND INSTALL DOWN TO 30 TO 35,000 TO BUILD AND IT WOULD BE WHATEVER THE CITY WAS CHARGING FOR IMPACT FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AS WE GO DOWN I WOULD ALSO WANT YOU TO AT LEAST INVESTIGATE THE IDEA OF DOING SALES TO PEOPLE USING THEIR HOUSE CHOICE VOUCHERS. NOW WE HAVE, I'M A CONSERVATIVE BY NATURE AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE PERPETUALLY ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE.

WITH THE SAME PEOPLE BASICALLY WALLOWING IN THE SPACE WHERE YOU NEVER OWNED ANYTHING IN YOUR CURRENTLY ON THE DOLE. MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO PICK A CERTAIN AREA.

BUILD SOME HOUSES TO SELL THEM THROUGH THIS PROGRAM WHERE YOU INITIATE A PROGRAM WHERE HOMEOWNERSHIP ALONG WITH COUNSELING, SELF-SUFFICIENCY, TRAINING AND SUPPORT ANNUAL FACILITATE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WHILE PROVIDING PARAMETERS TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SUCCESSFUL AT THE VENTURE OF HOMEOWNERSHIP.

WE CAN SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS, BUILD AN ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD, RELEASE THE STIGMA OF THE LIENS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STILL GET THE CITY IT'S MY BACK.

AND IF IT'S NOT GETTING AS MANY BACK THEN AT LEAST IT WOULD BE SEEN AS AN INVESTMENT INTO SOMETHING THAT THE CRA BOARD IS ALREADY TARGETING. SO, ADDING MORE FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS. ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE STABILITY AND SELF-RELIANCE TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. HE WOULD GET RID OF THIS IDEA OF DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND PASSING 4 OR 5 VACANT LOTS THAT ARE ALL OVERGROWN WITH GARBAGE STACKED IN FRONT OF THEM.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY INVESTOR WHO DROVE DOWN LIKE I DID AND THEY'RE NOT COULD BE LOOKING AT THE CREEK AND THE BIODIVERSITY. THERE TO BE LOOKING AT THE GARBAGE PILED UP FOR THE FACT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IN MY EYES YOU COULD JUST SEE WHEN THE WIND BLOWS THE GARBAGE HAS NOWHERE TO STOP BECAUSE NOBODY LIVES THERE.

SO JUST TRAIPSE ALONG. I ASKED FOR YOU TO ADOPT RESOLUTION SO MR. MIMS AND THE CITY CAN INVESTIGATE HOW WE CRAFT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SUPPORT FORT PIERCE'S GOALS AS WELL AS TRYING TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE STIGMA OF THAT. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. >> I MEAN YOU TEETERED REALLY CLOSE YOU MAY HAVE ONE OVER THE CLIFF WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE CITY HITTING INTO THE HOUSE BUSINESS.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS HERE. >> HE SCARED ME TO DEATH WHEN HE SAID THAT. EVERY CELL IN MY BODY STARTED YELLING NUMBER WE'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE. I WILL MADE THE LIFELONG COMMITMENT THAT HENEVER GETTING

IN THE BUSINESS IN. WHICH IS NOT GOOD AT IT. >> THE IDEA THAT A CONTRACTOR COULD COME IN AND YOU CAN SET UP P SOME PARAMETERS FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO ORK WITHIN.

THERE'S 15 GUYS I KNOW RIGHT NOW WHO WOUL JUMP ON T IF WE COULD GET RID OF THE MONEY THAT

IS OWED ON THE LOTS. >> I THINK THE VALUE THERE IS THE FACT THAT WERE NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. OR THAT CRA AND THE FPRA RIGHT NOW.

WE KNOW THOSE GUYS. [LAUGHTER]. I MEAN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IN MY EARLIER YEARS. BASED ON A LOT OF PROPERTY IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA. WE STOOD BY HOUSES REALLY CHEAP AND FIX THEM UP AND EITHER RENT THEM OUT OR WE EVEN HELD PAPER ON THEM AND FINANCE THEM OURSELVES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS UP THERE THAT ARE IN HOMEOWNERS TODAY BECAUSE WE DID THAT.

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IN OUR OWN LITTLE WAY I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF IT.

WE DIDN'T GET ANY BENEFIT FROM THE CITY OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE HAD TO PAY IT AND INCLUDED IN OUR COST TO GO FORWARD. I THINK AS THE FPRA BOARD YOU KNOW IF WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE EXPENSES, THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE OUT THERE EITHER IN A LIEN OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN OR COME UP WITH SOME FORTIVO GRANT SYSTEM THAT HELPS OUT. EVERY PROPERTY HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NUANCE ABOUT IT THAT IF IT'S GOT THIS OR THAT OR WHATEVER.

REALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN OR WE CAN ASSIST AND BE A PARTNER IN SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND DEVELOP A WHOLE SERIES OF LOTS AND TURN THEM INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.E DON'T WANT TO GET THE BUSINESS OR I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS BUT, I LIKE TO HELP SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO GET INTO THAT BUSINESS IN ANY WAY WE CAN.

I THINK STAFF COULD COME UP WITH A PLAN TO KEEP US WITHIN OUR LANE SO WE DON'T VEER OUT AND IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE FELT WERE CONTRIBUTING. FOR HELPING TO MAKE THESE LOTS VIABLE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.OU GOT A $4000 LOT THAT SCOTT HUNDRED AND $50,000 WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS AGAINST IT PLUS THAT MAY NOT BE.

THERE MAY BE STUFF ALL OVER THE PLACE. IF WE CAN GET THESE THINGS CLEANED UP, GET THEM OUT THERE, MAKE THEM USEFUL, SOMEDAY BEYOND THE TAX ROLL.

THEN WE FALL ONE. I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO A SYSTEM WITH GRANTS OR WHATEVER ELSE WE HAVE TO DO TO ASSIST SOMEBODY LIKE YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND DO THAT.

>> ONE OF THE MOST SUPPORTIVE THINGS WOULD BE ASSISTED TO MITIGATE LIENS AND LOT CLEARING ISSUES. IF THE PROPOSALS THAT A PERSON WAS BRINGING FORWARD, IF THEY WERE IN LINE WITH THE CRA'S IDEALS. IF THAT WAS PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT WAS SOMEHOW OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL CONSENT AGENDA WHERE THE COMMISSION WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE UP THOSE THINGS WITH THE BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IT FORWARD.

THEN THAT PROCESS OR BREAKING A PROCESS OUT OF THE CURRENT CONSENT AGENDA AND LETTING THE PERSON GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION TO YOU DIRECTLY WOULD BE A BIG HELP.

SOME OF THEM ARE DEFINITELY WORTHY. EVEN SOMETHING WHERE IF I'M A NEIGHBOR AND I WANT TO BUY THE LOT NEXT TO ME SIMPLY TO PUT SOME FRUIT TREES AND A SWING FOR MY KID AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT OVER AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

YOU MIGHT BE WILLING TO BREAK THE FEES DOWN AND MAYBE TAKE OUT SOMETHING OR GIVE THE PERSON A PAYMENT SCHEDULE THAT MADE SENSE WAS FUNCTIONAL. AGAIN, MR. MIMS WOULD BE ABLE TO CRAFT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN LINE. CURRENTLY IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL PROCESSES TO BREAK THAT OUT WITHOUT THE COMMISSIONERS IN THIS CASE PULLING IT OUT PERSONALLY. IF MR. MIMS AND HIS STAFF COULD CHECK OFF A BOX AND SAYS WE'VE BELIEVE THIS IS IN LINE AND WE WANT TO ACTUALLY BE HEARD, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST OUT.

THAT MAY BE COMING UP WITH SOME PARAMETERS FOR PAYMENT SCHEDULE OR WHAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE THE SITUATION WHERE THOSE LIENS WOULD BE FORGIVEN.HAT WOULD WORK ON A DOCUMENT DEED

RESTRICTION WITH THE CITY FOR THE BOARD EXEMPT. >> A LOT OF TIMES IT'S THE HARD COST, THE ACTUAL COST THE CITY HAD TO PAY THAT THEY WANT TO GET THE MONEY BACK ON.

>> EXACTLY. THE INTEREST IN THE FINES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

NOT THAT THEY'RE EASY. BUT THEY CAN BE WAIVED. ESPECIALLY IF ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE SAME PROCESS. I'M EVEN THINKING THAT IF WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME FUNDING FOR A GRANT TO HELP WITH THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T LEGALLY TAKE DOWN.

JUST TO MAKE THIS VIABLE TO THE POINT WHERE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SAY WOW.

IT'S A $4000 LOT BUT, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO COST ME $1500 MORE ON MY PART BECAUSE THE CITY OR THE FPRA HAS TAKEN CARE OF THE BALANCE OF IT. MANY GO IN AND DEVELOP THOUGHT.

THEN WE FALL ONE. IT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT SETTING THOSE PARAMETERS OR CRITERIA FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD ON.

>> COMMISSIONER SUE JOHNSON. >> THEY COULD CHAT FOR COMING IN AT FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX TO SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS. I MET WITH CHAD ON ONE OF MY THURSDAY NIGHT OPEN DOORS AND WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND HE IS CONTINUED THIS AND DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH IN IT SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT POINTS COMING INTO PLAY HERE.

I HEAR HOUSING. I'M SORRY TO HEAR PLANNING, I'VE GOT TO GET MY ATTORNEYS INVOLVED ON THIS. I SEE THE CITY COMMISSION AT ONE POINT.

I SEE THIS EFFORT FPRA BOARD AT ONE POINT. IT'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT WE HAVE. I WOULD TRUST THAT OUR ELECTED LEADER, RCE OF THE CITY WILL KEEP US ON TASK WITH WHAT PARTICULAR ENTITIES DEAL WITH WHAT APPEARED DOESN'T WANT TO ENTANGLE WITH WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED RIGHT? SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND SOLVING THE PROBLEM OF INFIELD AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OPPORTUNITIES THAT PEOPLE CAN BECOME FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS WHICH MEANS WE GET THINGS BACK ON OUR TAX ROLLS AND BEGAN TO SURE THOSE THINGS UP IN OUR CITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES OUR CITIZENS WANT.

IT'S VERY EXCITING TO ME. MORE INCLINED TO FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN BUILD THOSE PATHWAYS TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. I WILL CAUTION TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

WE START TALKING ABOUT DEEDS AND DEED RESTRICTIONS OF LOOKING AT MY ATTORNEY DID SAY HEY COME UP TO HAVE A CONCERN. THE CITY DOES NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO DEEDS AND DEEDS RESTRICTIONS. THAT WOULD BE OF AN ENTITY THAT WOULD'VE FORCED ON.> THINK OF IT LIKE THIS. IF YOU WANT THIS MONEY FORGIVEN THEN YOU WILL FACILITATE THE CRA CONTINUING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHERE THESE LOTS EXIST. WHEN I TALKED ABOUT DEED RESTRICTIONS, CARTE BLANCHE OVER IN OUR FORM ARE 3. WERE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP THIS LOT OWES $50,000 IN HARD COST TO THE CITY THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO LET THE CITY KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU FLIP THIS HOUSE WHICH MOST PEOPLE OR NOT MOST PEOPLE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL COME IN AND BUY HOUSE AND FIX IT UP AND THEY HEAR THEIR OUTLOOK ON TO THE NEXT ONE. IF YOU'RE THE KIND OF PERSON EXTRACTING YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROMISE A CITY THAT PARTICULAR THING YOU JUST REDID WILL REMAIN AN OPTION FOR THE PEOPLE OF THAT CITY. NOT NECESSARILY FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS WEALTHY AND NOW BY IT

AND RENTED OUT TO THE PEOPLE IN YOUR CITY. >> THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. AND THIS MORE OF THE HOMEOWNERSHIP.

IS THE PRIDE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOUR PIECE OF TURF TO BUY INTO THE WHOLE BEAUTIFUL LOCATION OF THAT AREA IS MORE VIABLE WHEN SOMEONE OWNS SOMETHING. IT'S THEIRS.> IT'S ONLY IF YOU WERE TO SAY THE BUYER IS GOING TO LEAVE THEIR AND BE A RESIDENT FOR LONG ENOUGH.

WHETHER KIDS ARE GOING TO WANT TO STATE WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE.

5 YEARS FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S AN OWNER OR OCCUPIER FOR 10 YEARS FOR SOMEONE THAT'S DOING SOMETHING WHERE IT'S MORE OF A COMMERCIAL PROCESS FOR THEM. IT IS AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES. TO TAKE THE LANGUAGE AND SINCE THEY KNOW WHAT THE CITY NEEDS AND WHAT THE BOARD NEEDS THEY'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THIS LANGUAGE BETTER. I WOULD DO AND SET UP A SYSTEM THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE TO SOFT.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WERE STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THROUGH. I THINK MR. MIMS HAS THE KNOW-HOW AND THE MENTALITY IN THE WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND THAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THE MOST PRUDENT.

>> IS OVERSEEN, BOARD CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO US IN A SHELL THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND EXPLORE TO LOOK AT THOSE PARTS AND MY COMMITMENT AS AN FPRA MEMBER IS HOW DO WE REVITALIZE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE BLOCKS AND THESE PROPERTIES WHERE WE HAVE CHALLENGES WITH LOT SIZE AND WE HAVE CHALLENGES WITH ECONOMICS. HOW CAN WE LOOK AT IT CREATIVE LIKE THIS AND FIGURE OUT A WAY AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS. I THINK WITH THIS BOARD AND KNOWING THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PROBABLY HAS NOT HAD A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN THIS KIND OF CREATIVE IN A LONG TIME.

TO LOOK AT AND SAY HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THIS AND WHAT ARE THOSE MOVING PARTS THAT WE CAN ENACT AND THEN SWITCH OVER ON A MONDAY AND GET OUR CITY COMMISSIONER AND CAPACITY TO LOOK AT HER ZONING THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT WE COULD DEEM APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROTOTYPE TO START AND SEE WHAT WE GET FROM THERE. IT'S VERY INTRIGUING TO ME.

AGAIN, I CAN'T THINK OF CHAT ENOUGH FOR COMING WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO GET US THINKING IN A VERY CREATIVE WAY. THE ENTRY POINT OF HOMEOWNERSHIP THAT WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING BELOW $50,000 PERHAPS IS REMARKABLE.

AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A DOABLE SOMETHING, TRUSTING THE STORMS, I BE LOOKING FOR ONE OF

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THESE PLACES TO GO LIVE OUT. THEY DON'T MOVE VERY EASILY. THIS IS NOT DESTRUCTIBLE TYPE STUFF WE LOOKED AT THE DESIGNS OF THESE CARGO CONTAINER HOMES. THOSE THINGS DON'T MOVE.

>> WERE APPLYING TO THE EPA FOR GRANT BECAUSE OF THE DURABILITY'S THROUGH A STORM.

>> MY ONE QUESTION TO YOU IF I CAN. SOMEONE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THE STUDY SOME OF THE STUFF. THESE CARGO CONTAINERS MADE IN THE USA? THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL CONTAINER ITSELF IN THE PRODUCTION OF IT IF THERE OUTSIDE OF OUR BORDERS. SOME OF THE HEALTH CONCERNS MY KNOW YOUR BIG HEALTH ADVOCATE. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT, GIVEN ANSWER?

>> THE ISSUE WOULD BE POSSIBILITY OF THE MAIN ISSUE HAS BEEN CARRYING THE MANIFEST IN USED SHIPPING CONTAINERS HAVE BEEN USED BETTER AND IN GENERAL.

THE CITY'S BUILDING DEPARTMENT REQUIRES PLANNING AND BUILDING REQUIRES THAT YOU USE A ONE SHIP CONTAINER OR YOU CAN OBTAIN THE MANIFEST SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN IT.

AS FAR AS THAT FOLLOWING CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONTAINER ITSELF IS CONCERNED THEY ARE COMMON AND BASIC USE OF AN AMERICAN COMPANY BUYING IT FROM THE PORT HERE ANYWHERE CLOSE

VERO OR MIAMI. >> THAT WAS MY CONCERN AS BEST WE CAN LOOKING AT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FACTORED INTO YOUR PRICING STRUCTURE. THAT WOULD LOOK AT AMERICAN

CONSTRUCTED CONTAINERS. >> ANYTHING I CAN BUY IS AMERICAN I USUALLY DO.

NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. >> THAT WAS MY CONCERN. >> THEN YOU KNOW.

>> EPA THINGS HAVE BEEN COMING OUT FROM CONTAINERS FROM A PLACE WAY OVER THERE SOMEWHERE.

SOME OF THE CHEMICALS USED IN THE PROCESS. IT'S CHALLENGING.

>> ALSO IN THE FLOORBOARDS THEY WILL USE MOLD RETARDANTS IN THE WOOD FLOOR AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL COVER THAT FLORA. WE RIP IT OUT. OTHER PEOPLE WILL COVER IT UP AND THINK THEY'RE ENCAPSULATING IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IN THE FLORIDA HEAT AND MOISTURE YOU'RE ENCAPSULATING ANYTHING IN YOUR HOME.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT. >> AGAIN THANK YOU FOR CHALLENGING US. YOU'VE LAID A LOT ON OUR PLATE AND COMMISSIONER PERONA HE

ALMOST JUMPED OUT OF HIS SEAT THERE. >> AGAIN IT SIMPLY BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A SPACE AT THE CITY CONTROLS.

THE LOOKING TO BUILD 12 UNITS AND I DON'T KNOW THE PROVIDENCE OF WHO'S GOING TO OWN THEM OR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THEM. THE LAST THING I HEARD WAS IN THE HOME CHOSEN TO BUILD THERE.

THERE WERE CONTRACTORS WHO WERE GOING TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THERE WAS NO DECISION ABOUT WHAT HOUSE WOULD GO THERE. IT'S YOUR PROPERTY, RIGHT NOW YOU WOULD BE THE OWNERS. THAT'S ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP.

THE REASON I DIDN'T GET MORE DETAILED IS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UP TO ME.

IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU GUYS IN THE CITY TO COME UP WITH WHAT I'VE DONE RESEARCH FOR.

I'M NOT SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.

I WAS OFFERING OPTIONS. THESE ARE JUST OPTIONS. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANT US TO EXPLORE. IS THERE A VIABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY SOMEPLACE ELSE.

THAT WE MAY KNOW OF OR COMMUNITY WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPED.

>> MADAME MAYOR. BEFORE HE ANSWERS, YES THERE'S A LIST OF PROPERTIES.

THERE IS A LIST OF SINGLE LIST. >> (S)TOO. >> THE FPRA LIST?

>> YES AND YES. 2 DIFFERENT ENTITIES. >> WE KNOW THOSE GUYS.

[LAUGHTER]. >> WHAT I WANT TO Y TOO IS THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY CARE AND THAT LIST IS IG. THERE ARE WAYS ABOUT THIS. AND PRE-ÁUNTRAN4Á WE WERE

HAVING A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE LAND TRUST, RIGHT? >> YEAH.

>> AND CLETUS GOT GAVE US A PRESENTATION. STAFF HERE.

>> PAUL THOMAS OR SOMEBODY. >> NUMBER FOLKS FROM STAFF THAT TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS LITTLE VARIATION OF THAT. EXACT SAME CONCEPT.

EXACT SAME PREMISE. GET FOLKS IN HERE. FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO TO RESTRICT OR GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY, THE FPRA TO BE PAID BACK OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. GET HOMEOWNERSHIP. FOR CHEAPER COST.

THIS LITTLE BIT OF RESTRICTION. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER, UNDERSTAND OR WORRY. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S MUCH-NEEDED. WE NEED TO INITIATE THE PROCESS AND IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO IT. THAT WAS MY 2 CENTS BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT MORE PROPERTIES.

I'M READY. >> MATTER CHAIR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS CORRECT.

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YES AND YES IS THE ANSWER. BUT I WILL SAY IS WE DO NOT HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE WHAT MR. INGRAM IS SPEAKING OUT.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ABOUT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK MR. INGRAM'S BRAIN WORK WITH JEN HOFMEISTER WORK WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL IN OUR CODE COMPLIANCE MANAGER AND COME UP WITH A STRATEGY, A PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES THE MEANS AND PROCEDURE TO ENACT OR IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. NOW CHAD, I'M TELLING YOU HE'S GOT A VENT MORE IDEAS.

WE WILL BE HERE UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK TONIGHT. >> HAVE A 75 PAGE PRESENTATION

THAT I HONED DOWN TO 28. >> HE HAD TO SIT TO THE WHOLE THING.

[LAUGHTER]. >> I WAS EXCITED BUT ANYWAY. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE THE RESOURCES. WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE SOMETHING OUT OF THE AIR.

IT'S BEEN DONE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. I AM VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFF COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL INFIELD FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

IT'S NOW TIME FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIES. >> WERE ALREADY ON BOARD.

WERE ALREADY MOVING TOWARDS FORECLOSURES. SO WE WERE ALREADY ON THAT PATH BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT. WE WERE ALREADY ON THE PATH OF WE KNEW WE HAVE THESE VACANT LOTS AND WE WANTED THEM TO GET IN THE HANDS, AND RCRA PLAN WE WERE ALREADY ON THE PATH WE WANT PEOPLE TO OWN THEIR HOMES BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ON THEIR HOMES THEY TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEM. HOWEVER, IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAVE BEEN THE MORTGAGE HOLDER WE WERE TERRIBLE AT IT. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS.

THAT'S FOR BANKS. WE LEARNED A LESSON FROM NOW. SO, WE WANT HOMEOWNERSHIP, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT MAKES THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER. PEOPLE TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITIES. WE DON'T WANT EMPTY LOTS OF BOARDED-UP HOUSES.

WE KNOW WHAT WE DON'T WANT AND WHAT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF. YOU'RE GIVING US SOME IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO DO IT. WE GET VERY FRUSTRATED WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN HERE AND SAYS I BOUGHT THIS LAW AND I'M GOING TO BUILD THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING ON IT SO SOMEBODY CAN LIVE IN IT AND IT'S GOT SO MANY LIENS ON IT THAT WE WANT YOU TO FORGIVE EVERYTHING.

OR FRUSTRATED TOO. WERE VERY FRUSTRATED. WE'VE, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND THE INTEREST AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY, YOUR EXPERTISE.

I MADE SO MANY NOTES BUT YOU LOST ME AT SEERAL TIMES. [LAUGHTER].

>> WILL EMPHASIZE ONE THING. THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT COULD TARGET SURPLUS FUNDS FROM THE OPTIONS. IF THERE'S MANY SITTING THERE THAT IS NOW FOR THE LAST PERSON ON THE LOT. LOTS OF FORCED INTO A TAX DEED SALE ENDED UP SELLING FOR $18,000 WHEN THERE WERE 4000 DOLLARS TAXES OWED.OMEWHERE THERE'S $13,000 SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT FOR MR. CHARLES BROWN. WHO DEFINITELY DOES NOT DESERVE THAT MONEY.

IF YOU GUYS CAN ATTACK IT IT CAN BE YOURS. >> MADAME MERRIMACK.

WE DO. I APPLAUD MR. INGRAM. WE .

WE READILY TO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE RECENTLY RECEIVED IN EXCESS OF 0,000. SO THAT DOES GO THAT THE PROPER CHANNELS AND REMITTED BACK TO THE FINEST APARTMENT. IT ALL DEPENDS ON ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CIVIC PROPERTY.

TYPICALLY TO BE A CITY PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU HAVE CODE LIENS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE OFFSET. I THINK THE LAST ONE HAD SON OF MR. MIMS OVER 20 LIENS IT HAD TO BE RELEASED ON ONE PARCEL. SO, AGAIN I APPLAUD MR. INGRAM EVERYTHING HE PRESENTED IS

AWESOME. REALLY. >> I'VE A QUESTION.

THIS WAS A TINY THING. THE TREE TRIMMING. I THINK TREE TRIMMING IS DONE

BY ¦ THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DO IT TO? >> THEY DO IN AND AROUND THEIR LINES IN CERTAIN SECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE DO GO IN AS CODE ENFORCEMENT CONTRACTORS ONLY ELEVATE TREES. DEALING WITH THE SEPTA PRACTICES.

WE ELEVATE TREES AND WE TRIM THE UNDERGROWTH. WE HAVE A COMBINATION.

>> FOR CRIME PREVENTION. SO WE WERE TALKED ABOUT TAKING THAT REFUSE.

>> MY WILDEST FANTASY THE FPRA WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE IT SO ANYBODY CUTTING DOWN ANY TREE IT WOULD BE GROUND UP AND THROWN ONTO VACANT LOTS.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY EXTREAM. I WOULD NEVER THROW WEIGHT CARBON.

I WOULD NEVER THROW AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEQUESTER MORE WATER INTO MY WATER TABLE TO

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DUMP IT INTO A LANDFILL SOMEWHERE AND WATCH THINGS OVERFLOWED.

THE GRAMMYS PERCOLATION TO ABSORB MORE STORMWATER THAN AUCTION AND IT WILL HOLD 10 TO 20 TIMES MORE WATER. TO KEEP DUMPING IT INTO THE LANDFILL WONDERING WHY THE GROUND WON'T HOLD WATER FROM ITS CALLED LEAVES BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE THEM THERE. [LAUGHTER]. SO WHEN HE CUT DOWN TREES AND GRINDING THEM UP. THIS TRUCK WAS AROUND THE CORNER FROM HOUSE.

I LIVED ON MORSE CREEK. THIS GUY WAS THERE CUTTING DENTAL HISTORIES PILED UP FOR THE WHOLE TRUCK. I SAID WHERE YOU TAKING IT I SAID WOULD YOU TAKE IT TO MY HOUSE? A VACANT LOT WILL TRY TO CAPTURE MORE WATER ON IT.

HE SAYS NO I GOT A TICKET TO THE DUMP BECAUSE THE GPS FOLLOWS ME AROUND AND KNOWS WHERE I AM. 5 LOW TIRE AT YOUR HOUSE IS CAN ASK ME WHY WAS I AT YOUR HOUSE.

SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS PROCESS WHERE I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE A PLACE I COULD GO WAS A HOMEOWNER TO GET A BUNCH OF MULCH AND MULCH MY GUARD. THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE CITY

THAT DOES IT. >> THE MULCH STORE. >> EVEN THE CITY BUYS AT CHINESE MULCH THAT HAS INVASIVE ORGANS IN IT. IT'S ALL UP AND DOWN MORSE CREEK AND I WALK AROUND AND I PULL THE ORCHIDS OUT. IF YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR TREES AND CUT IT DOWN YOU CAN PUT IT RIGHT DOWN WITHOUT TAKING IT ANYWHERE.

>> LIKE TO INVESTIGATE THAT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN.

>> KEEP FOR PEERS READING HIM TO BRING IT UP THERE. IT WAS A MATTER OF YOU ASKED

THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CUTTING. >> ARE YOU GOING TO COME TOWARD CLEANUP THIS SATURDAY?

THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP. >> ALBEIT AVENUE T. >> YOU PROBABLY PARTICIPATE IN

THE MORSE CREEK CLEANUPS. >> EVERY QUARTER. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. >> MADAME MERRITT WE MIGHT'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

SOME OF OUR ISLANDS ARE IN NEED OF MULCH. HE BRINGS ACCRETIVE IDEA.

BEFORE SUBCONTRACTING WITH ITH THESE GUYS WORKING FOR THE CITY WHY COULD WE GET THAT IN WE MAY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FPU WAY. I MAY KNOW SOMEBODY OVER AT FPU A. WE MAY NEED TO ASK THOSE IONS. I THINK IT'S CHALLENGING GING US WE NEED FRIENDLY WAYS TO REUSE AND AND RECYCLE TO HELP US.

. IT CUTSTOM LACOSS. >> OF ANY CITIZENS.

>> TAKES 1/30 OF A SECOND OF A FLASH OF LIGHT FOR SEED FOR WEED TO RATE TO TERMINATE.

SHE COVERED UP WITH MULCH GONE. IF THEY DO GO BACK YOU CAN LITERALLY JUST PULL THEM OUT OF THE GROUND NOT STOP THERE. THIS IS IT SOMETHING FOR THE GUARDS IT CUTS TREES.

JUST GO TO THE DRAWING. SO, WE CAN'T CONDEMN THEM FOR DOING NOW.

LIKE YOU SAID IF EVERYBODY'S JUST DOING THEIR JOB IT DOES TAKE PEOPLE LOOKING AROUND TO GO HEY, WANT TO JUST DROP IT ON THE GROUND RIGHT THERE. DON'T DRIVE IT ANYWHERE.

>> HE SAVING US A LOT OF MONEY TODAY.WE FOUND $30,000 OR SO. MANAUS WITHOUT MONIES OUT.

THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY MULCH NOW. OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH CHILD AND STUFF TO LOOK AT PUTTING SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN PLACE.

LIKE I SAID, SITTING AND LISTENING TO CHILD I THOUGHT I WAS BACK IN FORCE.

CENTRAL. WAS LEARNING ABOUT THE HYDROLOGIC CYCLE AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF AND PERMIT CULTURE. IT'S A VERY, VERY INSPIRING YOUNG MAN.

>> BRINGS THIS IDEA WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF BECAUSE WE USED TO THINKING THE SAME WAY.

WE NEED OUR CITIZENS. >> IT'S TIME TO THINK DIFFERENTLY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU ALL. THUS THE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED ALL START WORKING IMMEDIATELY WILL BRING BACK PLANS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT.

>> THAT BE GREAT. I THINK B&. >> BY THAT QUESTION TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. ONCE A TIME REFERENCE TABLE OF THAT? ARE YOU THINKING WITHOUT COMING TOGETHER?HERE'S A LOT OF STEPS.IT'S FPRA I HEARD IN

THERE AND CITY COMMISSION WITH CODES AND ZONING'S. >> IF YOU GIVE ME 60 DAYS, TO MEETINGS WE HAVE ANOTHER FPRA MEETING IN APRIL. WE CAN LOOK TO MAY.

BY THAT TIME WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST THE OUTLINE OF WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY.

I THINK WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME MEASURABLE GOALS THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE.

>> WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT AS WELL. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> THE CRA BORN AND MS. SABRINA TAYLOR AND MR. CHARLIE FRANK I'M SURE WILL BE ASKING SOONER THAN LATER THEY WANT STUFF DONE. THANK YOU MR. MIMS.

>> THERE IS A LOT HERE TOO. I REALIZE THAT'S A START. >> RIGHT?

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MAYBE THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. THAT KIND OF. >> I'LL GIVE CHAD A CALL LATER

THIS WEEK. WE WILL GET STARTED. >> AND EFFECT WE ARE PROVING WHAT THE CRA ASKED US TO DO. IN EFFECT. BY CONSENSUS, IS THAT RIGHT? WE GREAT? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WILL SEE YOU SATURDAY. >> GAS. [LAUGHTER].

[e. Approval of funding for the Revised Lincoln Theater Restoration Project Proposal with Program and Fees for Master Planning Phase developed by REG ARCHITECTS, INC. Architectural, Planning & Interior Design in the amount of $30,000.]

>> THE NEXT EM IS APPROVED FUNDING FOR THE REVISED LINCOLN THEATER WITH PROGRAM AND FEES FOR MASTER PLANNING PHASE DEVELOPED BY OUR E.G. ARCHITECTS S INK.

ARCHITECTURAL PLANNING AND INTERIOR DESIGN IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,000.

>> MR. MIMS? MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WE HAVE WITH US MR. RICH GONZALES FROM REG ARCHITECTS, INC WHO HAS PREVIOUSLY DONE WORK ON THE LINCOLN THEATER AND WE ARE CONTINUING WITH THAT TASK. LINCOLN THEATER IS ONE OF THE MAIN FOCAL POINTS OF OUR STRATEGIC VISION TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AN ACTIVITY GENERATOR.

WE HAVE A CENTER POINT AND THE HISTORIC RESTORATION OF THIS FEATURE THAT HAS BEEN IN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY FOR FOR SEVERAL DECADES. EQUIPPED MEMBERS OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING COMMEMORATIVE COMMITTEE AND ATTENDANCE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS CORRELATOR IN ATTENDANCE. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RICH AT THIS TIME IS GOING TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PROJECT SUMMARY.

>> THANK YOU MR. MIMS AND MADAME CHAIRWOMAN AND FELLOW PCOMMISSIONERS.

EXCITING TO BE HERE. BOY, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN FORT PIERCE.

BUSY AFTERNOON.'M GLAD TO BE A SMALL PART OF IT. I'VE WORKED HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I'M GLAD WERE BACK HERE DOING SOME MORE WORK.

I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON OUR FIRM AND OUR PROJECTS TO SHOW SOME OF YOU.

MY FIRM WAS OPENED IN 1988 WITH MY FATHER AND I STARTED IN DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH AND SPECIALIZE IN OR MANY RENEWAL PROJECTS FOR 33 YEARS. IT'S WHAT WE LOVE TO DO AND ALL OVER FLORIDA. WE WORKED WITH OVER A DOZEN CRA'S.

WE ENJOY DOING THIS KIND OF WORK. LOCATED DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH ONLY HAVE 21 ARCHITECTS IN OUR OFFICE. THE SERVICES WE DO, MUNICIPAL AND EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, HISTORIC BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL, MIXED-USE, COMMERCIAL. WE DO PLANNING LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS AND URBAN DESIGN PLANS. OF COURSE VISIBILITY STUDIES, CONSTRUCTION OF PRODUCTS, COMMUNITY PLANNING AND EXPERT WITNESSES. I'M DOING A CASE AND TO AUGUSTINE BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC BACKGROUND WORK I DO AND I'M CALLED TO DO THAT AND I ENJOY THAT ESPECIALLY LIKE TAKE THE CASES THAT ARE DEFENDING HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND NEVER TAKE THE ONES ATTACKING THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS. A VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

UBLIC OUTREACH LIKE TO TALK TO GROUPS ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF THE FLORIDA TRUST AND OTHER GROUPS AROUND THE STATE. IN OTHER PLACES.

WE HAVE A NICE INTERIOR DESIGN DEPARTMENT AND GRAPHIC DESIGN AND WE DO ANIMATION.

HAVE AN EXAMPLE WILL SHOW YOU LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS OUR CORE TEAM OF THE 22 PEOPLE. MYSELF, MY PARTNER:PRICE. DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS GLAD Ã BUT AS HER DESIGN WORK AND ANIMATIONS. BRIAN IS GOING TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER. BRIAN HAS A PHD IN ARCHITECTURE.

I'VE NEVER MET AN ARCHITECT THAT WENT THROUGH THAT BUT HE'S DONE THAT AND HE'S EXCELLENT.

>> HE'S DOCTOR ARCHITECT. >> ACTUALLY 35 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS I MET MAYBE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE. HE RECENTLY FINISHED THE BOYNTON BEACH $10 MILLION HISTORIC PROJECT IN DOWNTOWN BOYNTON BEACH WITH THE BOYNTON BEACH CRA IN THE CITY AS PART OF THE URBAN REDEVELOPMENT OTHER DOWNTOWN. ALSO HE'S FINISHING UP THE SUNSET LOUNGE WHICH WILL SHOW YOU A FEW MINUTES IN WEST PALM. VERONICA IS OUR INTERIOR DESIGNER AND MARY WHITE CENTER IS A NEW ADDITION TO OUR OFFICE.

SHE'S BACKGROUND IN CLASSICAL ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

RELEVANT TYPE PROJECTS EXPERIENCES ARE EXAMPLES WE'VE DONE OVER 1500 ASSIGNMENTS IN THOSE 30 YEARS. OF WHICH MAY BE 300 HAVE BEEN BILLED FROM HERE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOUTH FLORIDA. FIRE STATIONS, HISTORIC BUILDINGS.

SEACOAST UTILITY. BETWEEN THEIR HEADQUARTERS. OTHER CITY OF SEBASTIAN OF THE STREET THERE CITY HALL. THERE'S HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND POLICE STATION GREETED ALL THAT WORK YEARS AGO. CULTURAL COUNSEL ANOTHER HISTORIC BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN LAKE WORTH AND THE FAMOUS OF THEM ALL THE 1916 COURTHOUSE IN DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH WHICH WAS DONE A FEW YEARS BACK. WE'VE DONE PRIOR WORK AS MR. MIMS MENTIONED.

WITH THE COMMITTEE AND BACK IN THOSE DAYS THINGS GOT TIGHT WITH THE ECONOMY RIGHT 2007

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THROUGH 2008 WILL REMEMBER. STEP 35 ARCHITECTS BACK THEN WE DROP DOWN TO 8. IT'S BEEN A GRADUAL REBIRTH FOR US AND FOR EVERYBODY I THINK. THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE BOOK BACK THEN IS IT STABILIZED THE BUILDING.E DID THAT FOR THIS BUILDING AND FOR THE BEAUTIFUL 3-STORY SCHOOL YOU HAVE ALSO DOWN THE STREET THAT THE NAME B& SAINT ANASTASIA.

WE DID A UNIQUE PROJECT THERE WE ANCHORED THE ROOF. THE ROOF WAS SITTING WE WERE ANGLED THE ROOF DOWN THE FOUNDATION INTO THE ENVELOPE. SAME SIMILAR WORK WAS DONE FOR THE LINCOLN. SO IT'S STABLE. BIG STORMS, THE BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO FLY AWAY. THAT WAS VERY GOOD WORK WE DID BACK THEN IN 2007.

SIMILAR PROJECTS, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY PLACE WERE ROSEMARY'S CURRENT DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH. HEART AND SOUL THAT PROJECT IS THIS BUILDING HERE.

THE OLD METHODIST CHURCH WHICH IS NOW THE MIXED USE ENTERTAINMENT BUILDING.

EVERYTHING THERE FROM CHURCH TO BOXING HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION, YOU NAME IT.IT'S A COMMUNITY BUILDING. WE USE A FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK PTHERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE BUILDING. THE ONE WE JUST FINISHED BOYNTON BEACH $10 MILLION. WE HAVEN'T HAD A FORMAL OPENING BECAUSE OF COVID-19.

WE ARE USING IT FOR BALLET CLASSES IN THERE. THERE'S OUR CLASSES.

ON THE UPPER FLOOR YOU SEE THERE'S A BOW ROOF THAT CAN HOLD AN AUDITORIUM THAT WAS CALLED AND JUMPED AUDITORIUM. THE SCHOOLS WERE BUILT LIKE THAT IN THE 1920S.

THERE HAVE JIM HALF AUDITORIUM. IN FACT THE BASKETBALL HOOPS WERE STILL THERE.

THAT'S BEEN TAKEN DOWN. THEY HAVE A FULL-FLEDGED THEATER NOW FOR WEDDINGS AND LECTURES IN ALL TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN OCCUR AS SOON AS COVID-19 DIES DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. VERY SIMILAR PROJECT TYPE REFINISHING NOW.

THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DOG PROJECT AT THE HISTORIC SUNSET LOUNGE.

THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD OF WEST PALM BEACH. THIS BUILDING IS PART OF THE CHAPLAIN CIRCUIT.

THAT WAS A FAMOUS CIRCUIT FROM THE 1930S TO THE 1950S OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTISANS AND JAZZ MUSICIANS GOING THROUGH COAST OF FLORIDA THROUGH ALL THE CITIES, SAN AUGUSTINE, JACKSONVILLE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MIAMI. SEVERAL HAVE BEEN REPAIRED.

I WAS TALKING EARLIER WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THIS BUILDING RECEIVED 2 STATE OF FLORIDA GRANTS OF HALF $1 MILLION. FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

TO SUPPLEMENT $13 MILLION THAT THEY HAD. THERE ARE STATE FUNDS WHICH YOU CAN APPLY FOR FOR THESE KIND OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS. THE VIDEO IS HERE.

LET ME SEE HERE WE GO. THERE'S A QUICK LITTLE VIDEO. IT'S ABOUT A MINUTE AND 1/2.

[MUSIC]. AND ALSO INCLUDES A PLAZA, PARK AND ADDITIONAL MIX USE SMALL BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE SOUTH SIDE. THERE IS A HISTORIC PORTION.

IN A RECESS TO THE BACK IS A NEW PORTION, THE ADDITION TO THE BUILDING.

WITH A ROOFTOP BAR OVERLOOKING DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH. HAS A 2-STORY BALLROOM OF ROOM ONE STREET RESTAURANT LOUNGE ON THE LOWER LEVEL. THIS IS THE UPPER LEVEL WITH THE BOW TRUSSES. [MUSIC] OKAY. NOW LET'S SEE.

LET'S GET BACK ON THE SHELF. THANK YOU. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE AWARDS THAT OUR OFFICE HAS RECEIVED OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ARCHITECTURAL FIRM AND OTHER AWARDS.

THAT'S THE BASIS OF OUR ASSIGNMENT.E STARTED A YEAR AGO TRYING TO GET READY FOR THIS ASSIGNMENT. THEN COVID HIT AND LIKE MANY OTHER PROJECTS IT WAS PUT ON

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HOLD AND WE HOPE THIS WILL HELP YOU RAISE FUNDS. IT'LL HELP THE COMMITTEE FOR EXAMPLE SUBMIT FOR STATE BIDS ON HISTORIC AND ALSO ON CULTURAL RESOURCES AND MAYBE EVEN SOME FEDERAL GRANTS. I HAVEN'T DONE ANY FEDERAL GRANTS BUT I KNOW THERE IS SOME MONIES OUT THERE BEYOND THE STATE FUNDS. THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE GO BACK AND REVISIT THE BUILDING. DO AN AS BUILT CONDITION OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE SPENT 14 YEARS AND SET UP A DESIGN AND WORKSHOP OF THE COMMITTEE TOOK OVER.

THIS IS PART OF DREAMING. WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE BUILDING ON THE LOTS.

WE SAW THE SUNSET LOUNGE. I GREW FROM A LITTLE BUILDING, IT WAS FOR MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND ENDED UP BEING A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT TO THE ANCHOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY ADDING ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE THE KITCHENS.

THERE'S A RECORDING STUDIO THAT WAS ADDED TO THE ROOFTOP LOUNGE AND OTHER THINGS TO MAKE IT MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY. ALL THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE DESIGN WILL MAKE A MASTER PLANNING TOWN ON THE DOCUMENT WHICH CAN BE USED FOR FUNDING THE NEXT PHASES OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BY THE WAY.

>> QUESTIONS? >> YES. I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THIS AS PART OF OUR AGENDA TODAY. THE PROPOSAL THAT'S COMING FORTH WERE LOOKING AT WOULD INCLUDE ALL DOUBT. SO THE CHARRETTE PLANNING, THE DREAMING, THE VISIONING.

THE ANIMATION PART OF THAT AS WELL. >> THE ANIMATION IS EXPENSIVE.

IF INCLUDED 2 RENDERINGS RIGHT NOW. >> IS HOWEVER RENDERING, OKAY.

RENDERINGS NOT TO SCALE MODEL BUT IT WOULD BE RENDERINGS ON PAPER RIGHT?

>> OH YES. ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS. 3 DIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS.

>> THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE I THINK NEEDS TO BE TOUCHED AND SEEN SO EFFORTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO RALLY THE FUND RAISING ARM OF THIS CAN BE REALIZED IN PEOPLE CAN GET BEHIND THAT. I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT. THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE BUT IT WILL COME BACK TO ME THE MINUTE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.> THE REQUEST IS FOR, WHAT WILL WE HAVE IF WE GRANT THIS REQUEST? WHAT WILL WE HAVE?

>> THE ASSESSMENT FIRST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING AFTER 14 YEARS.

PDATED DRAWINGS ON THE BUILDING. THE PROGRAMMING SESSION MAKING SURE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE OR HOPE TO FIT IN THE BUILDING AND THE ADJACENT PARCELS. THERE'S 2 PARCELS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE COULD DO THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY. WHAT VINCENT WANTS TO BAKE OR NOT. MAYBE IF IT'S RIGHT. TO THE STUDY, THE CHARRETTE PROCESS MAY BE A SATURDAY MORNING OR AN EVENING. OPEN HOUSE SITUATION TO GET PUBLIC INPUT. AT THE END REPORT WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH ALL THOSE SECTIONS INCLUDING PROBABLY 3 RENDERINGS. 2 EXTERIOR RENDERINGS AND AM THINKING OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW. WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN INTERIOR RENDERING DONE TO SHOW

THE THEATER SPACE OR SOMETHING. >> WE WILL BE ON OUR WAY TO A DESIGN OF WHAT WE WANT BUT.

>> CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. >> FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THIS THEATER. THIS THEATER IS OWNED BY THE MLK COMMEMORATIVE COMMITTEE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE WE ARE TO HAVE ONE THEATER.

[LAUGHTER]. RIGHT. RIGHT.

I THINK WE WANT TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND WE WANT TO HELP THEM GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GET.

RIGHT. WE ALSO WILL HELP THEM RAISE THE MONIES TO DO IT.

AND GET THE GRANTS AND THE SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A BIG STEP TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO APPLY FOR

GRANTS. >> YES. >> AM I GETTING OUT?

>> I SIT ON THAT SKATEBOARD. OBVIOUSLY I RECUSE MYSELF ON THIS APPLICATION COMES.

>> WHICH CULTURAL? >> HISTORICAL COMMISSION. A MISTAKE COMMISSIONER.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 12 YEARS NOW COUNTING. WE GET 8200 APPLICATIONS EVERY YEAR.HICH WE, GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT TO OPEN THEIR BOOKS.

BUT THEY FUND MAY BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 20 EVERY YEAR. SO WE DO A VERY GOOD

APPLICATION WITH SUPPORT DOCUMENTS LIKE RENDERINGS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE QUITE A GOOD GRANT APPLICATION. YOUR SERVICE ON THIS COMMISSION, WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR GRANTS TO SAVE HISTORICAL BUILDING OR

WHATEVER. >> ITS NONPROFITS AND CITIES. A LOT OF CITIES APPLY.

IN THIS NECK OF THE WOODS MARVIN COUNTY IN LAKE PARK. EVERY YEAR WE SUBMIT A GRANT.

IT'S A VERY GOOD THING TO DO BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS GET, THE OF THE SALT MONOGRAMS UP TO 50,000 THAT THEY HAVE FOR BUILDINGS UP TO HALF A MILLION. YOU KNOW SOME OF IT HAS TO BE MATCHING GROUNDS. SO IT'S A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND WORTHWHILE DOING.

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YOUR CITY HAS A LOT OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS. HAS TO BE EITHER NONPROFIT OR MUNICIPALITY. THEY DO NOT FUND PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

>> GOOD. [LAUGHTER] APPEARED ON THE TAXPAYER, RIGHT?

>> I REMEMBER MY QUESTION. IT'S ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT ENEMA MAKE SURE IT WAS INCLUDED WITHOUT. HISTORIC BUILDING, ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

BRINGING IT BACK ONLINE SO THEATER ABSOLUTELY LOOKING AT THEM.

WITHOUT RENDERING INCLUDE THE PARKING THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THAT TYPE OF ENTITY AND THE

SIZING? WITHOUT BEING THE SCALE MODEL? >> THE SITE PLANNING WILL SHOW THAT TOO. AGAIN WE PRACTICE NEW URBANISM. YOUR TOWN IS ONE OF THE LEADING DIVERSE NEW URBANISM IN SOUTH FLORIDA ON STREET PARKING, SHARED PARKING.OU WILL NEVER HAVE ALL THE PARKING FOR THEATER. I HEARD YOU SAY FREEBIE I THANK YOU HAVE THE FREEBIE HERE. THAT'S A GREAT SERVICE. I LIVING DOWNTOWN WEST PALM.

THAT'S ALL I USE.ITHOUT MY ELECTRIC BIKE TO GET AROUND. >> THAT IS MY CONCERN THOUGH,

RIGHT? >> WE WILL DO SOME PARKING. YOU NOT GOING TO GET RID OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FROM THE LOTS ARE NOT GOING TO GET 100 PERCENT FOR THAT 100 PERCENT SOLD OUT SHOW. YOU HAVE TO THINK CREATIVE WAYS OF PARKING.

MULTI- MODEL. >> THUS A PART OF LOOKING FOR. IF THE CREATIVE PART.

FIGURING THAT OUT. >> NOT A E? >> YOUR COVERING A LOT OF THE F THE TOPICS. YOU'RE ASKING WHAT WE COULD GET.

THAT WAS GOOD TO BE MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION. AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT IS LOOK LIKE ON PAPER TO TOUCH AND FEEL AND HAVE GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT. . AND GO AFTER THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDRAISING AND THE GRANT T OPPORTUNITY. THOSE IN THE NEXT 2 PORTANT STEPS FOR THIS THEATER AND THIS GROUP THAT IS SEARCHING FOR THIS WORKING HARD AT IT THE OTHER PART WANT TO GIVE YOU PROPS YOU DID A RECENT BUILDING OF FORT PETERS BUT.

>> WE WERE OPEN TO OPEN 500 ORANGE.> OH, DID YOU DO THAT? HEAR GREAT THINGS

ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH I WANTED ANTED TO GIVE CCOLADES INFORMATION FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKS WONDERFUL AND IT'S COMING SOON. RIGHT?

>> WERE SUBMITTING IT TO THE FLORIDA TRUST. THE MAIN STREET OF OWNER TRUSTS

HAVE MERGED. >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> WERE SUBMITTING THAT BUILDING FOR AN AWARD. THE BOYKIN BEACH ON THE AI AWARD IN PALM BEACH AMERICAN SUBMIT THAT ONE TOO. THOSE 2 ARE THERE, WORKING ALSO UP IN THE NORTH AND AT THE

INDIAN RIVER GARDENS FOR MIKE CAREY UP THERE IN THAT AREA. >> OH, OKAY.

WERE BUSY HERE. WITH OF WORKING FOR PIERCE. I LOVE COMING APPEARED.

>> GOOD. MADAME MARY IF I COULD. SITE PLAN APPROVAL TYPE ASPECTS. I KNOW THAT'S FUTURE. NOT INCLUDED IN THIS THIS PROPOSAL. THAT'S WHEN YOU DO THE OTHER RENDERINGS OF 3D D ASK WHATEVER YOU NEED FOR CITY APPROVALS YES. THAT WILL BE ONCE WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WE CAN PREPARE A PROPOSAL FOR HOSE FINAL L PHASES OF THE PROJECT WHICH SHOULD TAKE US ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND ADMINISTRATION

LATER. >> JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE A ROUNDABOUT NUMBER 4 PER SQUARE

FOOT TO RENOVATE? >> OH BOY. >> JUST ROUNDABOUT.

I KNOW EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. IT TRULY IS.YOU HAVE A FOOTPRINT ENDING OF IT LOOKS LIKE.OU'RE WORKING OUT 14 YEARS AGO.

AND HERE YOU ARE TODAY. AS A $500 A SQUARE FOOT? >> $400 A SQUARE FOOT FOR BOYNTON BEACH AND SUNSET LOUNGE BECAUSE OF THE ADDITION THE SENTIENT LOUNGE HAD 3 FLOORS OF APARTMENT. WE SEE THIS RENDERINGS SHOULD YOU, THEY FILLED IT IN.

THEY BUILT APARTMENTS. WE HAD TO COME UP WE UNWRAPPED THE COURTHOUSE.

THERE WAS AN EXTERIOR UNWRAP. THIS IS FIRST TIME I HAD TO DO INTERIOR AND ROUTE.

MIKE PULLED 2 FLOORS. THEN STABILIZE THE BUILDING WHILE ADDING THE ADDITION.

THIS MORNING WAS ABOUT 450. I'D SAY, THESE WERE BUILDINGS THAT WERE IN REALLY, REALLY BAD SHAPE. A BENNETT FOR 20 YEARS. BASICALLY, WITH A LOT OF WORK TO STABILIZE. ONCE WE GET IN. COME WITH A BRIEF 352 300? THEY COULD. WE'VE DONE IT NOT LESS THAN NOT THOUGH.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE ADDITION TOO. RIGHT?

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MR. PERONA? >> HIM GOOD.

AM OVERWHELMED WITH ALL THIS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LINCOLN PARK THEATER OR LINCOLN THEATER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP MOVE IT T ALONG AND GET THIS TO

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WHERE IT'S ON THE CONCEPT ANYMORE IT'S REALITY. AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION I'VE GOT A FILE THAT'S THE STICK ON IT AND IT NEEDS TO START MOVING WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO DO THAT. I KNOW THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING IT OVER THE YEARS HAVE BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE START TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SOMETHING LIKE A PANDEMIC OR THE ECONOMY OR SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS.

I THINK, OUR STARS ARE ALIGNING RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE IT

FORWARD. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE SUPPORT. >> BY THE WAY THE GRANTS, ONE OF THE DEADLINES IS JUNE 1. I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING. WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SUBMIT WITH THE APPLICATION WITH OUR TITLE BLOCK ON IT. I THINK THAT WILL HELP WHEN STAFF FOR THEM OKAY HOPEFULLY THEY COULD PUT TOGETHER AN APPLICATION ESPECIALLY FOR THE

$50,000 ONCE. I'M SORRY. >> VINNIE TO START WORKING

TONIGHT. >> THE BIG GRANTS, THEY GIVE OUT A LOT MORE THAN 25 BY THE WAY. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. THE 50,000, ALSO THEY LIKE IT WHEN YOU APPLY FOR 50,000 BEFORE THEY GIVE YOU A BIG GRANTS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

>> YOU PROVE YOURSELF. YEP. SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET

STARTED ON WORK TONIGHT PROBABLY. >> THEY'VE GOT THEIR WORK CUT

OUT FOR THEM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF AT THIS POINT. THIS WAS NOT BUDGETED IN OUR ORIGINAL FPRA BUDGET.

30,000 I KNOW WE HAVE FUNDS APPEARED TO BE HAVING AN IDEA WHERE MORGAN PULLED OUT FROM?

>> WHERE FUNDS NOT IN THE OPERATIONAL ACCOUNT BUT WE HAVE FUNDS IN RETAINED EARNINGS.

AS YOU HEARD EARLIER IN THE FPRA IS IN A STRONG POSITION. IS VERY REFRESHING TO SEE.

THE FPRA IS DOING QUITE WELL AND I BELIEVE WE ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED A VOCATION OF THIS

EXPENDITURE. >> OKAY. DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FUNDING FOR THE REVISED LINCOLN PARK THEATER PROPOSAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,000.

>> IS OUR SECOND? >> ANY DISCUSSION? >> I JUST WANT CONSTANT UPDATES ON WHAT'S GOING OING ON. IT'S IMPORTANT WE STAY NVOLVED. NOT IMPROVING MONEY MOVING IT OFTEN THAN 2 YEARS LATER WE GET IT BACK AND I'M NOT MAKING THAT COMMENT.

THIS USED TO STAY FRESH IN EVERYBODY'S MIND. IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY UPDATE US WITH UPDATE OUR PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN STAY INVOLVED ALSO.

THAT'S JUST A SIDE COMMENT. >> I HAVE A SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

>> ARE ALL RIGHT READY TO VOTE? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> A GOOD JOB.FOLKS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

[f. Retail Market Overview & Strategy presented by Colliers International]

WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. >> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A RETAIL MARKET OVERVIEW AND STRATEGY PRESENTED BY COLLIERS INTERNATIONAL.

>> MR. MIMS? >> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WE HAVE MORE FUN ON THE WAY. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.

ASK WHERE SUPPER? >> WE GOT AT MEET EVERY MONTH. WE HAVE MR. KEN FROM COLLIERS INTERNATIONAL. HE WILL GIVE US A REPORT ON THE RESEARCH THAT HIS FIRM HAS DONE SO FAR AND ALSO AND INTRODUCE US TO THE NEXT STEPS AND SHOWING ALL OF THE FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITIES THIS COMMUNITY HAS ONCE KEN GETS GOING I'M SURE YOU WILL BE EXCITED AS

WELL. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING.

>> IS ANYBODY GOING TO JOIN US? OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE YOU? >> THERE'S A CALL AND RIGHT?

>> LOOK AT A CALL AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T THINK THERE ON THE CALL

BUT THEY'RE FOLLOWING ALONG ONLINE. >>.

>> MADAM MAYOR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. KIM ¦ I WAS BEFORE YOU ABOUT 6 MONTHS OR SO AGO. WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU THE SYNOPSIS OF OUR RETAIL STUDY AND MARKET SEGMENTATION. SO, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED.

I THANK YOU HAVE THE FULL REPORT THAT WE ALSO PREPARED. WE TRIED TO CONDENSE THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AS SUMMIT REFERENCED EARLIER THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN FORT PIERCE. IT IS GOOD TO HEAR. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT. BEAR WITH ME AND MY TEAM WAS JOINING ME BY PHONE.

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SO WHEN WE MET WITH MR. MIMS AND I THINK IT WAS MS. HOLMES OF THE TIME.

WE DISCUSSED LOOKING AT THE MARKET IN VARIOUS SEGMENTS AND SO WE BROKE DOWN THE FORT PIERCE MARKET INTO VARIOUS RETAIL SEGMENTS. DOWNTOWN, THE PEACOCK ART DISTRICTS, SOUTH BEACH, FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND LINCOLN PARK.

SOME OF THAT MAJOR CORE DOORS, ORANGE, OKEECHOBEE AND US ONE. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THE DATA IN THEIR PERTAINING TO THESE DISTRICTS. THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH TONIGHT IS OVERALL KIND OF A SWOT ANALYSIS.

SO STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS. WE LOOKED AT DEMOGRAPHIC AND PSYCHOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS OF THE METRICS THAT THE RETAILERS ARE REALLY KEYED ON.

A GAP ANALYSIS AND THAT REALLY IDENTIFIES WHAT WOULD WE TURN AS LEAKAGE THAT'S A BIG YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING FORT PIERCE AND GOING TO SPEND THEIR RUNNING.

ULTIMATELY WE CREATED AND LOOKED AT AVOID ANALYSIS. WHAT RETAILERS, WHAT TYPES OF STORES AND OTHER TYPES OF VENUES ARE MISSING. IN THE MARKET.

WE DID LOOK AT SOME OTHER PEER CITIES THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA TO GET SOME PERSPECTIVE AND COMPARISON. THEN LIKE I SAID WE WENT THROUGH AND I THINK THE AREA I AM SURE WERE GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME ON IN EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS, THE AVOID ANALYSIS, THE GAP ANALYSIS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, WE CAME UP WITH VERY SPECIFIC IDENTIFIABLE ACTIONABLE CRITERIA WITH THE NAMES AND NUMBERS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH OF PEOPLE THAT WE FEEL ARE RIPE FOR TARGETING IN EACH OF THE VARIOUS MARKET SEGMENTS.

THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT.

SURE YOU'LL STOP INTERJECT AND ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

OKAY. A QUICK LITTLE AGAIN ON OUR AGENDA.

MET MOST OF OUR TEAM. WE'VE GOT A REALLY DEDICATED STAFF OF ECONOMIC AND RESEARCH ANALYSIS THAT HAVE REALLY POURED THROUGH AND AGAIN YOU'VE GOT THE DETAILED REPORT THAT

REALLY GOES THROUGH ALL OF THE ANALYSIS. >> SO WHERE ARE WE TONIGHT? HOW DO WE BRING NEW BUSINESSES INTO THIS COMMUNITY? RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED THIS RELEASE STAGES ONE AND 2 WHERE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A VERY DETAILED EVALUATION OF THE MARKET AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. UNDERSTANDING THE CONSUMER PROFILE AND ALL THE DEMOGRAPHICS. UNDERSTANDING THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THEN IDENTIFY THE OPPORTUNITIES.

WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTRACT NEW RETAILERS? WE HAVE LOOKED AT SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITIES IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS WHERE WE THINK THERE ARE REAL ACTIONABLE AREAS TO ATTACK AND PUT TOGETHER A SPECIFIC RECRUITMENT PLAN OF THOSE BUSINESSES.

THE NEXT STAGE IS 3, 4 AND 5 PWHICH ARE TO MOBILIZE AND EXECUTE.

AGAIN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THE PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE TO REALLY TELL THE STORY IN DETAIL, CONDENSE WHAT WE'VE STUDIED IN THIS MARKET.

TOGETHER THE REAL MARKETING MATERIALS, COLLATERAL AND BRING IT OUT UNTIL THE MARKET AND CONTINUE TO TRACK, SUCCESS AND THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND IT BECOMES A VICIOUS CYCLE WHERE WE CONTINUALLY REEVALUATE. SO THE SWOT ANALYSIS, AS YOU CAN SEE THANKFULLY THE STRENGTHS ARE OUTNUMBERING THE WEAKNESSES. THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN.

YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE STRENGTHS IN THIS COMMUNITY I DON'T HAVE TO BELABOR THEM.

THERE IS I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED HERE TONIGHT ON THE WEAKNESS SIDE, HOUSING DENSITY,

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HOUSEHOLD INCOME, LACK OF NEW SUPPLY, SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT PERCEPTION.

THOSE ARE ALL AREAS OF WEAKNESSES THAT WE THINK WE'VE GOT A PLAN TO ATTACK AND AGAIN OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE STRENGTHS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE TONIGHT AND FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO, THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY PLEASED TO CAPTURE A LOT OF THE STRENGTHS.

ON THE OPPORTUNITIES SIDE WERE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S VERY FEW COMMUNITIES IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA THAT HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES SITTING RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT UNDER UTILIZE PORT. I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FISHERMAN'S WHARF.THE AFFORDABILITY FACTOR. JUST THE AMOUNT OF FAST OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT. THIS GENERALLY PAINTS A VERY POSITIVE PICTURE BECAUSE STRENGTHS OUTNUMBERING WEAKNESSES AND YET THE HUGE NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. OBVIOUSLY COVID AND DEVELOPMENT ARE THREATS. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING UP SPENT MUCH TIME GOING OVER THE STATISTICS HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO DEMOGRAPHICS, WHAT ARE THE MEDIAN AGE, HOUSEHOLD INCOME, POPULATION, GROWTH, ETC. WHAT ARE THE PSYCHOGRAPHICS? THEY PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT SIDE TO THE PSYCHOGRAPHIC SIDE OF THE CONSUMER.

IN UNDERSTANDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE APPOINTED TIME WE BACKWARD LOOKING ON THE SILLY FORWARD-LOOKING. WE GOT A YOUNG AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY THAT HAS A LOT OF THESE ATTRIBUTES THAT THEY WOULD CALL THE PSYCHOGRAPHIC SIDE OF IT IS IMPORTANT.

THE AGE IS ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC SIDE. THERE ARE SOME POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES. ON THE SURFACE WOULD BE VIEWED AS A NEGATIVE.

IT ALL IS EXTREMELY POSITIVE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT DO TELL AGAIN WILL GET INTO THE PSYCHOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS. WE SEE HUGE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD ON SOME OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE HERE ALREADY. FOCUSING ON CONTINUING TO ATTRACT YOUNGER ADULTS, YOU KNOW GROWING FAMILIES, BUILD UPON A DIVERSITY THAT IS ALREADY HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE NEW MIGRATION WITHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA IS SAYING.

WE THINK THIS AREA BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE DEMOGRAPHIC FACTORS ARE REALLY POISED TO CAPTURE A LOT OF THAT NET MIGRATION AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ALSO AN ABILITY TO CAPTURE MOVEMENT FROM WITHIN THE GREATER SOUTH FLORIDA MARKET. PSYCHOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS GOES TO DYNAMICS OF THE MARKET HERE THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEING IN THE COLD TO THE GROWTH.

IF GOT THE MILLENNIAL'S AND SENIORS AND EMPTY-NESTERS. HE WILL SEE HOME-IMPROVEMENT

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>> FORT PIERCE IS TELLING US WHAT ARE THE YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF MAJOR CATEGORIES, FURNITURE, HOME FURNISHING, ACCESSORIES, LUGGAGE, LEATHER GOODS, POCKET BOOKS, SHOES, FOOTWEAR AND OBVIOUSLY SPECIALTY FOOD AND DRINK. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN TARGETS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN MORE DETAIL

ABOUT. >> CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND. IS THAT JUST LOOKING AT THE ZIP CODES OF FORT PIERCE THAT THEY DEEM.

SO THEY COULD GO TO THE OUTSKIRTS SOUTH AND NORTH.

BUT WHEN YOUR GAP IS JUST LOOKING AT THE ZIP CODES OF FORT

PIERCE. >> THAT'S AGAIN WHAT WE WOULD USE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO TALK TO THESE RETAILERS TO SELL THEM THESE OPPORTUNITIES IN FORT PIERCE BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND SPENDING THEIR MONEY ELSEWHERE.

>> WAS THERE A FURTHER QUESTION YOU CAN LOOK AT -- WELL I'LL GET

TO IT. >> YOU'LL SEE.

THIS JUST AGAIN, BREAKS DOWN IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT. THE FIVE MAJOR DISTRICTS.

COMPARISON AND CONVENIENCE. YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCES ARE, YOU THINK OF THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT OUTSIDE YOUR DOOR.

YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD-ISH KIND OF -- COMPARISON IS WHEN THERE ARE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTRICT MULTITUDE OF CHOICES WITHIN THE SAME CATEGORY. AND THEN DESTINATION WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY WHERE PEOPLE NOT ONLY FROM THIS COMMUNITY BUT IN GENERAL ARE GOING TO BE DRAWN TOWARDS.

WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT LINCOLN PARK AND THE PEACOCK, THE PAD DISTRICT REALLY ARE A COMBINATION OF CONVENIENCE AND COMPARISON. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF LIVEABILITY, WALKABILITY. BUT AS THOSE DISTRICTS GROW, THEY'LL ALSO BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MULTIPLE CHOICES WITHIN BOTH OF THOSE DISTRICTS. AND THEN DOWNTOWN FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND SOUTH BEACH WE BELIEVE CATER TO MORE OF THE DESTINATION. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE CATEGORIES THAT PEOPLE WILL TRAVEL TO AND COME IN TO THOSE MARKETS TO, YOU KNOW, TO SHOP, EAT, YOU KNOW, CULTURE, ENTERTAINMENT. SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE DID LOOK AT SOME, YOU KNOW, PIER CITIES THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA.

AND LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THESE AREAS AND THESE DISTRICTS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, BUSINESS RETENTION AND LEVELS OF TAX INCENTIVE AND GRANTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO YOU SEE THERE, YOU KNOW, POMPANO BEACH AND STEWART, IN TERMS OF BEING COMPARABLE DISTRICTS.

OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ASPIRATIONAL SIDE WOULD BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF DEL RAY BEACH.

IN THE DISTRICTS, YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE REPORT, WE'VE GOT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE DONE AND WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO ATTRACT THE TYPES OF RETAILERS AND BUSINESSES. BUT AGAIN, AS YOU'LL SEE, ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS HAVE KIND OF A COMMON THEME.

IT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THAT GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT INFILL. MAKING THE STOCK, THE CURRENT STOCK, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO BE BETTER.

SO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THOSE ARE CONSISTENT THEMES THAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PROGRAMS GEARED AROUND ALL OF THOSE. I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS SURVEY, WHICH IS WHY ARE WE DOING THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID.

WHAT IS COVID GOING TO TELL US? WHY DON'T WE JUST WAIT UNTIL COVID IS -- LO AND BEHOLD, WE'VE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS FROM

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COVID. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COVID, SOME OF THE TRENDS, SOME OF THE PATTERNS, SOME OF THE WAY PEOPLE ARE LIVING, SHOPPING, WORKING, OR SO ON AND SO FORTH, ARE GOING TO STAY WITH US EVEN WHEN WE'RE WAY PAST THE VIRUS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. WHAT WE ARE NOW SEEING IN TERMS OF AS WE'RE PREPARING AND YOU'RE PREPARING FOR KIND OF THIS, YOU KNOW, LET'S CALL IT THE RETAIL OF TOMORROW, IS ALL OF THESE AREAS ARE AS COMPANIES ARE MOVING INTO THE NEW WORLD OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF -- AGAIN, IN THIS POST COVID, I TALK ABOUT EMBRACING HOMEGROWN, LOCAL, ORGANIC, YOU KNOW.

THERE'S A STRONG DESIRE. PEOPLE HAVE REALLY TAKEN TO SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, THEIR LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND THAT IS A TREND THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO CONTINUE.

AND THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY SPECIFICALLY HERE IN FORT PIERCE TO CONTINUE TO BUILD UPON STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT IN PLACE. REACTIVATION AND PLACE MAKING.

AGAIN, AREAS OF THE MARKET WHERE REDEVELOPMENT IS ABLE TO TAKE PLACE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CONGREGATE AND CAN GET TOGETHER.

WE TALK ABOUT DIVERSIFICATION. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR COMMUNITIES THAT EMBRACE DIVERSITY.

THAT EMBRACE INCLUSION. WE REALLY BELIEVE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE ATTRACTED TO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ESPOUSING THOSE VALUES. SOME OF THE BIGGER PICTURE RETRAIL TRENDS THERE, AS YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM.

IT'S JUST A FACTOR THAT, YOU KNOW, POP-UP STORES AND STORES THAT ARE KIND OF HERE TODAY AND GONE TOMORROW.

TRYING OUT NEW IDEAS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE FABRIC. AND YOU GOTTA SORT OF EMBRACE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE -- AND THERE'S A WHOLE INDUSTRY NOW THAT'S CATERING TOWARD HELPING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SET UP BUSINESSES IN THAT KIND OF POP-UP ENVIRONMENT.

BUYING ONLINE, PICKING UP IN STORE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT IS HERE TODAY. THAT'S KIND OF THAT OMNI CHANNEL, THAT SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE BETWEEN SHOPPING ONLINE AND WALKING IN TO A STORE AND PICKING SOMETHING UP AND RETURNING IT, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

YOU'VE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT'S PLANNING.

THAT'S PARKING. SO ON AND SO FORTH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS.

BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE PLENTY OF STORES WHERE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SEE PEOPLE. WHETHER THERE ARE GHOST KITCHENS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST COOKING FOOD FOR DELIVERY.

OR THEY'RE JUST THERE FOR DISTRIBUTION AND PEOPLE GO IN THERE TO PICK STUFF UP AND DROP STUFF OFF.

AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S SORT OF A DYNAMIC OF THE RETAIL MARKET THAT IS GOING TO BE WITH US.

SO AS WE GET IN TO EACH OF THE DISTRICTS, I'M GOING TO TALK AGAIN ABOUT THE KIND OF THE FIVE, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICTS HERE. SO IN DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE ATTRIBUTES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WALKABLE DESTINATION, WATERFRONT, THE CULTURE.

YOU KNOW, WE DID LOOK, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO GET IN TO THE MEAT OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE DID GENERALLY LOOK AT CERTAIN TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT COULD BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE GRANTS OR TAX REBATE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS THAT WE DO THINK COULD BE INCREMENTALLY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF RECRUITMENT. WE ALSO LOOKED AT HIGH LEVEL IN TERMS OF ZONING. IN TERMS OF ANY ISSUES THAT ARE IN ANY OF THESE DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ANY IMPEDIMENT TO ATTRACTING BUSINESS. WE DON'T THINK EITHER ON ZONING OR INCENTIVES ARE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE AND NOW.

WE THINK YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH OPPORTUNITIES AND ENOUGH OF A STORY THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ENGAGED WITH THESE KIND OF RETAILERS, ESTABLISHMENTS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE MIX OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES.

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HOTELS, FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS, BARS, COFFEE SHOPS.

CLOTHING, ENTERTAINMENT, COSMETIC, YOU KNOW, FITNESS CENTERS WILL RETURN. FURNITURE.

SO THESE ARE BASED ON, AGAIN, ALL OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS, ALL OF THE METRICS THAT WE WENT THROUGH.

WE BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE THE TYPES -- YOU DON'T GET CAUGHT UP ON EVERY LOGO ON THIS SLIDE. IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS.

BUT IF YOU CAN JUST, AGAIN, KIND OF CLOSE YOUR EYES AND VISUALIZE THAT THESE ARE THE KIND OF COMPANIES THAT WE THINK ARE RIPE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN MARKET AS WE SPEAK, YOU KNOW, HERE TODAY. BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE METRICS THAT I TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. MOVING IN TO THE LINCOLN PARK DISTRICT. AGAIN, VERY, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ARE ATTRACTED TO CULTURAL COMMUNITY TYPE DISTRICTS WHERE THEY REALLY EMBRACE THAT LEVEL OF HISTORY.

SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING, YOU KNOW, NEW BUSINESSES IN TO THIS DISTRICT.

AGAIN, I MENTIONED SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS THAT I THINK ARE FOR ANOTHER DAY AND ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE BELIEVE THAT THESE COMPANIES, THESE KIND OF BRANDS ARE READY TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION IN REGARD TO SPECIFICALLY IN LINCOLN PARK.

AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EACH CATEGORY HERE.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME COMBINATION OF SOME BUSINESS SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THE AREA.

GROCERIES, YOU KNOW, AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.

PHARMACY, DRUG STORE, OBVIOUSLY FULL-SERVICE, QUICK SERVICE, RESTAURANTS. SOME MEDICAL, OPTICIANS, DOCTORS OFFICES, WE THINK IS A CRITICAL NEED IN THAT AREA.

YOU KNOW, BEAUTY SUPPLY, SO ON AND SO FORTH, ET CETERA.

WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE METRICS THAT I THINK I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT BEFORE THAT ARE IN THIS REPORT, THESE ARE THE KIND OF COMPANIES THAT WOULD BE OPEN AND RECEPTIVE TO HAVING CONVERSATIONS SPECIFICALLY WITH

REGARDS TO LINCOLN PARK. >> MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. >> IF I COULD ASK.

SO I NEED SOME BACKGROUND HELP FOR WHAT'S DRIVING THIS INFORMATION. SPECIFICALLY, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT BOTH DISTRICTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY.

OR BEEN SHOWN. LINCOLN PARK.

LINCOLN PARK IN THIS GRAPHIC, IF YOU WERE TO SHOW -- IS THERE A GRAPHIC IN THIS BEFORE? ONE SLIDE.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

SO THERE'S ONLY A LIMITED AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTIES IN THIS DISTRICT. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AND I'M TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER TO SHOW THAT NEXT SLIDE.

SO TELL ME WHAT DATA DROVE YOU TO SAY, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE OPTIONS. BECAUSE THAT YELLOW LINE THERE REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, GONNA LOOK AT THAT MAP.

IS THAT AVENUE D? >> YEAH.

>> THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTY.

EXPLAIN HOW YOU GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.

IT'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL IN THIS GREEN AREA.

A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL. >> YEAH.

WHO NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THESE SERVICES, AND THESE BUSINESSES. AND SO IT'S A LOT OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND PSYCHO GRAPHIC INFORMATION IN TERMS OF CULTURE AND CHARACTER OF, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME, YOU KNOW, TARGETED OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT AREA.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THEATER BEING REDONE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MEANS COURT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS IS BASED ON THE TYPE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE CULTURE, THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU KNOW, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE NOT YET PRESENTED.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT

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THESE GROUPS. AND AGAIN, BASED ON SOME OF THE PEOPLE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALREADY.

>> WE'RE SORRY, YOUR CONFERENCE IS ENDING NOW.

PLEASE HANG UP. >> ENDING?

>> ALL RIGHT. >> AND VERY SIMILAR IN DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT. THIS IS KIND OF THE --

>> BOUNDARY? >> RIGHT.

>> IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHY THAT IS.

IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF THING. IT'S JUST HOW THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS DRIVING THE OUTPUT FUNCTION.

WHAT INFORMATION? I JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION. WHAT IS PUSHING THIS REPORT TO SAY THESE ARE THE TARGETED AREAS.

BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE EARLIER SLIDES.

ENTERTAINMENT AND APPAREL AND SERVICES MAKE UP 60% OF CONSUMER DEMAND IN YOUR GRAPHIC. YOU BROKE IT DOWN IF AN INDIVIDUAL SPENDS $5,000, IT'S A LITTLE WAYS -- RIGHT THERE.

ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. THE FIRST TWO ITEMS, YOU KNOW.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THE MYRIAD OF OUTPUT THAT COMES FROM THIS.

YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT 67 -- TWO-THIRDS OF THAT IS GOING TO BE SPENT ON ENTERTAINMENT AND RECREATION AND APPAREL AND SERVICES. I'M JUST TRYING TO CORRELATE THE TWO. WHAT THIS INFORMATION IS TELLING

ME IN TO THE OUTPUT DATA. >> THIS INFORMATION IS TELLING YOU WHERE, YOU KNOW, CURRENT CONSUMERS ARE SPENDING --

>> MYSELF AND MY KIDS. YOU GOT IT.

YOU GOT IT. >> THE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, EXCUSE ME, HAVE CERTAIN CHARACTERISTICS THAT APPEAL TO DIFFERENT RETAILERS BASED ON, AGAIN, THE SPECIFIC -- SO THIS IS A BROAD DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

BUT WHEN WE BREAK IT DOWN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS, YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE TARGETED.

A LITTLE BIT MORE MICRO INTO SOME OF THE CULTURAL AND DEMOGRAPHIC SPECIFICS OF EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS.

THAT'S WHY THEY APPEAL TO A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW,

AUDIENCE. >> RIGHT.

OKAY. >> SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LINCOLN PARK ONE? SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, I LOOKED AT SOMETHING.

THE YELLOW MAP REPRESENTS AVENUE D.

AND THE GREEN SHADED AREA IS THE IMPACT OF THAT.

OF THAT, THERE MAY BE OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS THROUGHOUT THAT AREA THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ALL ON AVENUE D.

MAJOR CORRIDOR. SO ALONG THOSE SAME LINES THAT HE'S BROUGHT UP, WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT CULTURAL MIX, THE NEXT SLIDE, SOME OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS JUMPED OUT TO ME, RIGHT, AS TO HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT.

I SAW SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TYPES OF BRANDS THAT ARE REPRESENTED. A LOT OF CONSUMER CONSUMPTION HERE WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO THOSE OTHER THINGS WOULD BE OF CONCERN. BUT I ALSO KNOW, AND MY QUESTION IS, THIS IS REALLY ALSO BASED ON THE HARD DATA OF ECONOMICS.

WHAT IS THIS DRIVEN BY? MONEY.

DISCRETIONARY INCOME. YUP.

OKAY. SO THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

IS ANY OF THIS ALSO FILTERED THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITY OF MINORITY OWNERSHIP AND HAVING EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH SUCH A MIX OF CULTURES THAT WE HAVE IN THAT LINCOLN PARK AREA.

WE'VE GOT FOUR OR FIVE MAJOR CULTURES, CULTURES IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT THRIVE. AND SO I ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE A RESTAURANT OF MAYBE ONE OF THESE, PICK ANY ONE, BY ANY SUB CULTURE WOULD HAVE ITS OWN IDENTITY THERE.

I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF LATINO POLL O TROPICAL THOSE

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NUANCES MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.

MY CONCERN IS OF THESE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN HERE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT IT AND ARE YOU EVALUATING IT BASED ON EVEN MINORITY OWNERSHIP IN THESE RETAIL FRANCHISE OPPORTUNITIES.

BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO, I WOULD THINK, GO TO THE MINORITY OWNERS OF ALDI AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD ON ALDI.

YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO GO TO SOMEONE, WE'RE GOING INTO AN URBAN COMMUNITY. THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE.

>> YOU'RE TOUCHING ON A COUPLE -- ALDI IS A CORPORATE.

FRANCHISE. YOU HAVE DIFFERENT MODELS.

WHEN YOU GO TO A CORPORATE OWNER VERSUS A FRANCHISE MODEL.

>> RIGHT. RIGHT.

>> AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, LINCOLN PARK AND THE PAD DISTRICT ARE BOTH A COMBINATION OF CONVENIENCE, WHICH IS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE STORES AND RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL, THEY'RE GOING IN TO THIS AREA, WHY? BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY COULD MAKE MONEY.

OR WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY CAN MAKE MONEY HERE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH DOING.

WE'RE TELLING THEM YOU CAN LOCATE YOUR BUSINESS HERE, AND YOU CAN DO WELL BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS.

>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THE CHALLENGE, RIGHT. IS BECAUSE AS I TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY, THEIR CONCERN IS WHY DON'T WE HAVE.

AND THIS IS WHAT'S MISSING, RIGHT, IS WE NEED SOMEBODY TALKING TO RETAIL TO SAY YOU CAN MAKE MONEY AND THIS IS HOW.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SET UP.

>> AND WE HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW THEM, AGAIN, WHY, WHAT'S MISSING HERE. I.E., HOW THEY SPEND MONEY.

IF YOU WERE HERE, YOU'D SPEND IT IN YOUR BARBER SHOP OR GROCERY STORE OR WHATEVER. IT IS A COMBINATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY. YOU CAN CREATE SOME -- YOU MAY NOT SEE ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TODAY.

BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE. AS MR. MIM SAID, YOU CONTROL THE PROPERTY, YOU'RE SITTING ON A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE ATTRACT AND GROW HIGHER LEVELS OF DISCRETIONARY INCOME, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THAT'S WHAT THESE RETAILERS ARE GOING TO BE ATTRACTED TO. AS I ALSO MENTIONED, I SAID LINCOLN PARK AND THE PEACOCK DISTRICT ARE A COMBINATION OF CONVENIENCE. THINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE AROUND THE CORNER, DOWN THE BLOCK, AND COMPARISON.

SO THERE MIGHT BE AS YOU MENTIONED, A LATIN POLLO TROPICALE. IN BOTH OF THESE DISTRICTS, YOU HAVE BOTH CONVENIENCE AND COMPARISON.

COMPARISON WHERE THERE CAN BE A COUPLE OF SIMILAR BUT RELATED TYPE OF BUSINESSES. AND THE DISTRICT WILL SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, WILL SUPPORT THAT. THE DESTINATION, SOUTH BEACH, DOWNTOWN, AND FISHERMANS WHARF IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO ATTRACT SOME BUSINESSES WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DRAWN TO AND ARE GOING TO BE COMING FROM OTHER AREAS.

AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE -- THIS IS PEACOCK.

IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE NAMES AND SOME OF THE TARGETS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN FISHERMANS WHARF.

YETI. THAT'S MORE LIKE ALONG THE LINES OF A DESTINATION. WOULD NOT NECESSARILY FIT OR SURVIVE OR THRIVE NECESSARILY IN LINCOLN OR PEACOCK.

IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S BAD. IT'S A DESTINATION BRAND.

IT'S AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DRAWN TO.

SO THOSE BRANDS, THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO EFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, SET UP SHOP. SO THAT'S THE METHODOLOGY BEHIND WHERE A NUMBER OF THESE, YOU KNOW, BRANDS AND TARGETS.

BUT BETWEEN EVERY ONE OF THESE, BETWEEN A COOPERS HAWK AND A MULLIGANS OR WHATEVER IT IS, THERE'S 20 RELATED TYPE, YOU KNOW, GROUPS, BRANDS, RESTAURANTS AND SO ON AND SO

>> A GOOD WORD TO DESCRIBE IT. >> BUT STILL SOME BUSINESS SERVICES THAT ARE NECESSARY IN

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THAT COMMUNITY. >> I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FISHERMAN'S WHARF.

A SOUTH BEACH MORE ALONG THE LINES OF DESTINATION AND REALLY CAPITALIZING ON THE AMAZING, THE BEACH AND THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE THERE AND THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE.

>> SO THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT AND AGAIN I DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MONOPOLIZE YOUR ENTIRE MEETING HERE BUT TO YOUR POINT, THIS IS REALLY WHERE KIND OF WE ARE TODAY. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE TENANTS. WE KNOW WHY MULLIGAN'S WILL DO WELL. ELEMENT HOTEL WILL DO WELL HERE. WE KNOW WHY A COOPERS HAWK WILL

DO WELL HERE. >> SO THAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, YOU

CAN'T, YOU KNOW, BUILD A PLAN TO GO OUT AND GET THEM. >> SO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

>> WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. AND NOW THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE AGAIN TO WORK, YOU GOT A GREAT TEAM THAT HAS DONE SOME AMAZING WORK IN TERMS OF MARKETING THE CITY.

EXPANDING UPON THAT, BRINGING THE OPPORTUNITIES, COMMUNICATING THE VISION ONCE WE GET BACK IN

TO THE CONFERENCES AND THE LIKE. >> AND THEN IT'S CALLING MEETING, WE KNOW WHO ALL OF

THESE RETAILERS ARE. WE KNOW WHERE TO GO GET THEM. >> AND THEN THE KEY AREA IS AS THESE BUSINESSES SET UP SHOP HERE, AS THEY BECOME SUCCESSFUL HERE,.

>> AND MORE AND MORE, IT'S VERY MUCH OF A HERD MENTALITY. PEOPLE SEE IT.

IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THAT MOMENTUM GOING. >> BUT THE SUCCESSES ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. YOU DONE A GREAT JOB. BRAND NAMES IN THE CITY ALREADY.

>> THAT'S PART OF THE SORT OF THE SUCCESS STORY THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT ON NEXT.

>> AND AGAIN THIS IS JUST KIND OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT BUT YOU MENTIONED WHERE ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES AND QUITE HONESTLY THEY ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.

WE JUST PICKED, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WHERE YOU KNOW IN URBAN VIBRANT CULTURALLY, YOU KNOW, DYNAMIC DOWNTOWN YOU ARE SITTING ON WHAT IS ALMOST FOUR, 5 ACRES OF SPACE THAT WILL APPEAL AND AGAIN IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE AND YOU THINK OF SOME OF THE BRANDS AND THE HOSPITALITY AND THE MIXED USE, BUT THAT IS ONE THEME THAT I THINK YOU WILL SEE THROUGHOUT A

NUMBER OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. >> YOU HEARD THE OLD SAYING RETAIL FOLLOWS ROOFTOPS AND SO IN A LOT OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES THEY WILL HAVE SOME KIND OF MIXED USE DYNAMIC TO IT BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE TO LIVE DOWNTOWN.

>> LIVING MORE DOWNTOWN, CREATES THAT SENSE OF VIBRANCY BUT ALSO FROM THE RETAILERS PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, SHOWS THAT THEY GOT A BUILT IN COMMUNITY AND CONSUMER IN THAT MARKET.

IN ADDITION TO DRAWING FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA. >> SO THAT'S DOWNTOWN.

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>> I MENTIONED BEFORE IN LINCOLN PARK WORKING WITH MR. MIMS ON MEANS COURT, WE THINK FOR A FULL BLOCK FRONT TO CREATE AGAIN MIX OF INCUBATOR SPACE AND SOME RETAIL SPACE AND SOME OTHER TYPES OF MIXED USES THAT THERE IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY AND AGAIN BRINGING THAT ADAGE.

WHEN OTHER RETAILERS SAY PEOPLE MOVING IN TO THE LINCOLN PARK AREA, IT HELPS THE NEXT, THE

NEXT CALL, THE NEXT SELL, ET CETERA. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE PEACOCK ON NINTH AND ORANGE. I THINK YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE.

THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT WHERE WE COME FROM, AGAIN WE ARE ALL OVER, ALL OVER FLORIDA, ALL OVER

SOUTH FLORIDA IN PARTICULAR. >> THE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE IN YOUR DIRECT CONTROL, IS REALLY UNPRECEDENTED. AND SO YOU GOT AGAIN I THINK WE KNOW YOU GOT A WILLING AUDIENCE OUT THERE IN TERMS OF RETAILERS WHO WHEN YOU TELL THEM THE STORY ARE GOING TO BE RECEPTIVE.

TO YOUR POINT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND UPON WHAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE VISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE HERE TODAY BUT YOU KNOW THEM AND WE KNOW THEM AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE WORLD WILL KNOW THAT THERE IS MIXED USE AND NEW DEVELOPMENT AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES COMING TO EACH OF THESE, EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS. WE TALKED ABOUT FISHERMAN'S

WHARF. >> I KNOW YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PRESENTATIONS BUT THE REAL

OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO EVEN THINK A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. >> THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIVE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY HERE AND IT JUST WITH THE PORT AND WHAT IS GOING ON THEY ARE -- WE THINK

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE REGION. >> I THINK THIS IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUT I THINK THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME MOVEMENT HERE IN SOUTH BEACH AND AGAIN ENCOURAGING SOME OF THE USES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE BEFORE.

AGAIN HOSPITALITY, MIXED USE, RETAIL. IT'S PRIME FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND THEN EVEN LONGER TERM BUT EVEN MORE EXCITING IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT YOUR, I DON'T KNOW IF

IT WATER TREATMENT OR STORM WATER. >> BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GOT A

HIGHER AND BETTER USE AND AGAIN WE -- THINK? >> WE -- WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO AGAIN IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE BRANDS THAT WERE ON THAT CHART AND YOU THINK OF YOU KNOW THE HOSPITALITY BRANDS, THE RESTAURANT BRANDS, THEY WILL SEE THESE KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES. THEY MAY NOT SEE THEM THERE TODAY.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THERE TODAY. NOW IT'S NOT A LIFESTYLE CENTER.

IT'S NOT A MIXED USE. IT'S NOT A WATERFRONT ACTIVATED CENTER.

>> SO THEY ARE NOT COMING BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE IT. BUT THERE IS A STORY TO BE TOLD

THERE. >> AND SO THAT'S -- THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THIS AGAIN IN PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, HANDS BUT THE OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A REAL WHAT THEY CALL THESE POWER CENTERS. A TRUE KIND OF MIXED USE LIVE WORK PLAY OFFICE RESIDENTIAL LIFESTYLE RETAIL OPEN SPACE, SO-AND-SO FORTH. 25 ACRES OR WHATEVER IT IS SITTING ON VIRGINIA AND U.S. ONE HAS GOT SOME UNBELIEVABLE APPEAL.

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WE ALREADY TALKED TO A FEW OF THOSE, THOSE RETAILERS THAT WE MENTIONED ON A FEW OF THOSE

SLIDES AND THERE IS SOME REAL EXCITEMENT AROUND THIS CORRIDOR. >> QUESTION ABOUT THAT ONE IF I

COULD. >> SO WHAT ARE THESE FOLKS, GIVING ME A REPORT THAT TALKS ABOUT PROPERTIES AND TALKS ABOUT POTENTIAL, THE FOLKS THAT ARE INVESTING THEIR PRIVATE DOLLARS TO BRING RETAIL IN TO THIS COMMUNITY, WHAT NUMBERS AND WHAT DEMOGRAPHICS ARE LOOKING AT A PROPERTY LIKE THIS. LOOKING FOR 1,000 UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL WITHIN A HALF MILE

OR WHAT KIND OF -- WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR? >> IF YOU LOOK AT AT A SITE LIKE THIS OR MARINA SQUARE, LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME LEVEL OF DENSITY AND SO YOU GOT, WE HAVE TO DIG IN TO A LITTLE BIT ON THE WITH PLANNING AND SO ON IN TERMS OF WHAT COULD BE DONE HERE BUT YEAH, SO SITES LIKE THIS OFFER SCALE SO THAT YOU CAN CREATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY WITHIN YOUR DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE DRAWING FROM A WIDER RANGE.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A CLASSIFIED AS DESTINATION LOCATION. >> SO SOME OF THE RETAILERS THAT WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN HERE ARE GOING TO BE DRAWING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE TYPICAL 1-3-MILE TYPE THING. SAME THING WITH DOWNTOWN. SAME THING WITH SOUTH BEACH.

THOSE ARE THE DESTINATION WHERE IF YOU CAN CREATE THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY, AND THAT MIXED USE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, OFFICE, HOSPITALITY, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, ET CETERA, YOU ARE CREATING YOUR OWN LEVEL OF DENSITY. BUT ALSO OTHERS TO DRAW FROM.

>> SO IN THIS PARCEL, WE HAVE IT SCOPED C3 AND ZONING DISTRICTS HOPE MY MATH IS RIGHT OR MY NUMBERS ARE RIGHT. LIKE 20% CAN BE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN A C3?

MAXIMUM? , RIGHT? >> SO FOR ME WE ARE BUILT OUT IN THIS REGION. THAT HALF MILE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY. SOME TOWNHOMES OR SOME DUPLEX TYPE UNITS.

>> 25 ACRES IS A LOT. >> IT'S A LOT. AND SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE MIXED USE OPTIONS ON A PARCEL LIKE THIS AND FOR YEARS THIS IS THE OLD 1980S RETAIL MARKET. I CALL IT PAVED PARADISE. PAVE EVERYTHING YOU CAN.

BECAUSE WE WANT AS MANY CARS AS WE CAN GET THERE COMING TO SHOP . . . I DON'T SEE THAT IS PARCEL DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE AND TO I AM WONDERING IF NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB AT RETAIL RECRUITMENT BUT IT JUST LOOKING AT PARCEL LIKE THIS AND SAYING MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T ALL BE C3 OR MAYBE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OPTIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD

RECOMMEND DOING? >> YES. AGAIN THERE IS -- THERE IS CERTAIN -- THIS OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD DO WHAT YOU CAN ON THE ZONING AND THE DENSITY AND SO

ON. >> BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU DON'T OWN IT AND SO YOU ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED BUT YOU INCREASE THE VALUE GENERALLY SPEAKING.

THEY WILL VALUE WILL FIND ITSELF AND IT WILL NOT SIT THERE AS VACANT.

ASPHALT. >> YOU GO BACK AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UNPRECEDENTED OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS CITY HAS IS YOU ARE SITTING ON NOT WHERE YOU CAN ONLY CONTROL THE ZONING BUT ARE THE OWNER AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY ACTIVATE A NUMBER OF THOSE SITES RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND AGAIN THAT MOMENTUM, THAT SUCCESS BEGETS SUCCESS. WHEN RETAILERS START HEARING I'M LOOKING AT NEW DEVELOPMENT. FORT PIERCE. LOOKING AT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN FORT PIERCE. THE THAT MOMENTUM STARTS TO TAKE SHAPE.

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES. YOU GOT A DUEL.

PRIVATE -- -- DUAL. >> ZONING AND DENSITY AND THE LIKE IS A CONVERSATION THAT

SHOULD BE TAKING PLACE. >> AND THEN YOU ALSO GOT THE STUFF THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON

THAT YOU CAN MOVE ON PRETTY QUICKLY. >> AND REALLY MAKE SOMETHING

HAPPEN. >> SORRY. >> SAME SITE WE HAD, WE JUST APPROVED ASS IN THERE -- WE APPROVED USES IN THERE ROW SENT LY.

THAT WAS PROMOTING IT AND I WAS ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THIS THAT

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MAKES IT A GATEWAY AND PRESENTABLE IN STEAD OF ALL THE VACANCIES THAT YOU HAVE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO DESCRIBE THAT THESE ECONOMIC CIRCLES THAT COME AROUND THAT DEPEND ON OTHER ECONOMIC ENGINES IN THAT AREA ARE NOT SUPPORTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT BASICALLY I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID. THIS BASICALLY IN ITSELF CAN BE THAT ENGINE THAT DO EVERYTHING

THAT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION IT'S PERFECT. >> AND ALSO I THINK IN GENERAL SOME OF THE PRIVATE GROUPS THAT ARE VERY MUCH, VERY MYOPIC AND LOOK AT THEIR OWN LITTLE WORLD.

THEY ARE NOT SELLING THE BIGGER PICTURE VISION OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THIS CITY.

I THINK WHERE WE AND STAFF REALLY SORT OF TAKE THAT OUT. >> SO THAT'S WHY AGAIN YOU CAN EDUCATE THE PRIVATE OWNERS AND GIVE THEM THE BIGGER PICTURE VISION AND BRING THEM ALONG, AND

THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. NO QUESTION. >> AND YOU CAN ALSO, YOU WILL BRING PEOPLE ALONG SHOWING THEM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

>> AND BY THEM SEEING THAT OTHER, YOU KNOW, RETAILERS AND BUSINESSES AND SO ON ARE COMING.

>> SO -- >> TO FOLLOW UP. >> IT'S INTERESTING, OUR DEMOGRAPHICS KEPT A LOT OF THOSE LABEL NAMES AWAY FROM FORT PIERCE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

STAFF GOT VERY INVOLVED WITH IT. WE HAVE SOME GREAT SALES PEOPLE ON OUR STAFF ALSO.

AND I THINK WHEN CHICK-FIL-A FIRST CAME TO TONE, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S WAWA, GANDER.

ALL THESE OTHER ONES START FILTERING IN BECAUSE YOU START LOOKING AROUND.

THE DEMOGRAPHICS DON'T SUPPORT THIS. >> YELLED OUT WE GOT A POPEYE'S.

AND I AM THINKING TO MYSELF, OH, MY GOD. >> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RADIUS.

THEY WILL GIVE US THE BIG ZERO AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. WE COME A LONG WAY FROM THAT.

WE GOT A POPEYE'S TO WE GOT EVERYTHING STARTING, PEOPLE ARE NOTICING WHAT WE HAVE AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO THAT.

I THINK AGAIN YOU CAN SELL THE DREAM AND YOU CAN SELL THE VISION, BUT WHEN YOU GOT DATA THAT BACKS IT UP AX THAT TELLS THESE KIND OF RETAILERS AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

BECAUSE WE HELP THEM GO OUT IN THE MARKET AND FIND SITES. WE FOE WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AND. COMPELLING STORY OF WHY YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> THEY WOULD NEVER LOOK THERE. >> I WILL TRUST THAT THE DATA THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT WILL BE ONE THAT IS RECEPTIVE TO THOSE AUDIENCES BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S BEEN THE HOLDING PART.

>> BECOMING MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED. USED TO BE KIND OF BLACK AND WHITE. CENSUS DATA. LOOK AT ONE, THREE, 5-MILE CONCENTRIC CIRCLES. NOW LOOKING AT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TYPE STUFF.

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>> THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE AMENITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE

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TRAFFIC ISSUES AND THAT'S IT'S NOT HOUSE ON TOP OF HOUSE IS

[03:32:33]

PEOPLE ON TOP OF PEOPLE AND ALL OF THESE OTHER TYPE OF THINGS AND WE HAD OUR ECONOMICS AND THEY SAID I'M RUNNING OUT OF PROPERTY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REALIZING THAT NOT ONLY ST. LUCY COUNTY IS BEING DISCOVERED AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THEIR OWN LIFESTYLES SAYING, HEY, I NEED TO MAKE A MOVE AND WHERE IT'S GREAT WEATHER AND WHERE IT'S GOT CULTURE AND WHERE IT HAS THIS AND THAT GOING ON AND WHY NOT AND THEY'RE REACHING OUT NOW AND THEY'RE VISITING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SAYING, OH, MY GOD, THIS IS A TREASURE WE'VE MISSED EVERY TIME.

SO NOW THEY'RE MOVING COMPANIES DOWN HERE AND BEING A PART OF

THE WHOLE THING. >> AGREED.

WE THINK THAT COVID HAS CREATED AGAINST -- OUT OF COVID, THERE WILL BE WINNERS AND LOSERS AND WE WILL BE A NET BENEFICIARY -- I TALKED ABOUT THE NET MIGRATION AND ONCE TRAVEL REALLY LOOSENS UP AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MOVE AROUND A LOT MORE, THE PENT-UP DEMAND OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALIZING THAT THAT PEOPLE CAN WORK FROM ANYWHERE AND STILL BE RELATIVELY PRODUCTIVE IS THE WORKFORCE CAN BE DISBURSED AND HAVE A LOT MORS HUB AND SPOKE AND A COMPANY THAT MIGHT HAVE A MILLION SQUARE FEET IN MANHATTAN MIGHT HAVE A HALF A MILLION IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND A NUMBER OF OFFICES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE LIVING IN FORT PIERCE OR PORT ST. LUCY BECAUSE THEY CAN AND THEY CAN WORK AND STILL WORK AT MOODIES.

>> AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHOVEL SNOW.

FORT PIERCE IS A CHOICE. IT'S JUST GROWING SO FAST.

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PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE. PEOPLE CHOOSE THIS BECAUSE IT'S AN OLD CITY, BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO FISH AND BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE SMALL-TOWN FEEL AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS ASKED WHEN I WAS FIRST MARRIED, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TARGET HERE? AND SO, THAT SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTED.

BUT THE LONGER WE GO -- I THINK ABOUT FORT PIERCE AND THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE. THE BUSINESSES WERE FAMILY ORIENTED AND FAMILIES THAT LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CLOTHING STORE AND THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON SOUTH BEACH ARE NOT CHANGED. AND WHEN THE 7/ELEVEN CAME TO DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE, PEOPLE WENT INTO MOURNING.

IT DIDN'T SUCCEED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

IT LEFT AND NOW THERE'S A DUNKIN DONUTS AND IT'S BEEN COMPROMISED BY A CHAIN. AND THEN WHAT YOU HERE IN THE COMMENTS, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PAID PARKING A FEW MEETINGS AGO, THE COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, OH, MY GOSH, IT'S TURNING INTO BROWARD COUNTY. THIS IS WHY I LEFT BROWARD COUNTY. AND SO I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVD 25TH STREET, THERE WAS A WALGREENS THAT HAS LEFT.

IT'S A VAY VACANT BUILDING NOD TEY LEFT AND THAT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF LINCOLN PARK. AND SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OPPORTUNITIES, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR SMALL TOWN CHARM AND

NOT TURN INTO FORT LAUDERDALE. >> WE A THOUSAND PERCENT AGREE BECAUSE WITH THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE APPEALS, OFF AUTHENTICITYD ONE OF THE THING PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN TO IN THIS COVID ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE TAKEN STRONGER ROOT, POST COVID.

>> YES, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND HAVE TURNED THEM INTO HERO BECAUSE OF COVID AND I GET THAT AND I THINK -- ESPECIALLY -- I CAN'T THINK OF ANY BUSINESS ON THE BEACH, EXCEPT MAYBE SQUARE GROUPER AND ALL OF THOSE ARE VINTAGE FORT PIERCE BUSINESES AND THEY CAME OUT OF FORT PIERCE AND PEOPLE STARTED THEM IN FORT PIERCE.

AND ALSO IN SOUTH BEACH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, OUR BEACH COMMUNITY IS PROBABLY THE MOST AFFORDABLE, THE MOST BEACH COMMUNITY BETWEEN KEY WEST AND JACKSONVILLE, MAYBE NEW SAMERNA WOULD BE COMPARABLE AND WE'VE SAID FUN AND FUNKY AND YOU CAN AFFORD TO LIVE ON SOUTH BEACH. SCHOOL BUSES GO THERE AND PEOPLE LIVE THERE YEAR ROUND. AND SO, IN A WAY, I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF FORT PIERCE.

>> THE BEAUTY ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE SO MUCH IN CONTROL OF THAT. YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF THAT, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DRIVE AND DICTATE. BUT YOU CAN DO SMART, SUSTAINABLE INCLUSIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THE MASSES AND SO FORTH. AND THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT AND HAVE DONE IT

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WELL. SO YOU SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID OF THE FACT THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL MEAN THAT YOU LOSE WHAT YOU'VE GOT. YOU CAN OF COURSE EXPAND OD

AND GET THE OTHER ATTRIBUTES. >> I DON'T WANT TO BE WHERE THE BOYS ARE IN FORT LAUDERDALE AND WANT MASSIVE SPRING BREAKERS

HERE. >> WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.

>> THAT'S PART OF OUR VALUE IS OUR BEACHES, THE NUMBER OF BEACHES WE HAVE, THE FACT THEY'RE NOT CROWDED, THE FACT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO THE BEACH.

>> IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, 50 HIGHRISES AND SO ON, THEN I WOULD HAD A RITZ CARLTON BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE ATTRACTED AND HAVE THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AND THINK ABOUT IT IN THE TERMS OF TARGETS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL BE BUILT ON MODIFIED AND MODERATE GROWTH BUT NOT SCALE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE CONTROL OF. AGAIN, YOU'RE IN CONTROL OF IT, WHICH IS THE BEAUTY PART OF IT. I MEAN ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF IT, SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS YOU CAN CONTROL WHAT GOES WHERE, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL WHEN YOU'RE BOTH THE OWNER AND THE

ARBITOR. >> RIGHT.

>> SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO COME OUT OF THIS?

MR. MIMMS? >> WELL, IN MY VIEW, I BELIEVE THIS IS AN INTERIM REPORT. THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR RELATIONSHIP AND WE INTEND TO HANG OUT WITH KEN WITH QUITE SOME TIME AND I BELIEVE HIS FIRM HAS DONE A WIDE VARIETY OF RESEARCH AND BROUGHT TO US A MARKET ANALYSIS THAT WE NEVER HAVE HAD BEFORE AND WE CAN TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND WE CAN BUILD UPON OUR STRATEGIES TO RECRUIT, ATTRACT AND LAND BUSINESS BUSINESSES IN FORT PIERCE AND WE CAN GET KEN TO DO IT ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

WHERE WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS AS OUR NUMBER ONE CHEERLEADER AND IT'S ABOUT RECEIVING THIS AND WE WILL WORK TO BUILD THAT PLAN AND HAVE A --

>> LASER FOCUS. >> -- LASER FOCUS ON OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AND SO, IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT THIS AND IF YOU WANT TO REDIRECT THIS IN ANOTHER WAY, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

>> THE MOST FASCINATING THING ABOUT THIS REPORT IS WHAT PEOPLE CAN GET IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET AND SO WHY NOT HAVE IT CONVENIENT TO GET IT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD? THEY'RE GOING TO THE CVS ON NORTH U.S. 1 AND ALDIS ON SOUTH U.S. ONE.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO ARE CONTRACTUALLY ARE THERA STEPS TO DELIVERABLE AND ANYTHING ELSE EXPECTED?

>> YOU HAVE COLLIER'S LEAD AND THERE WAS ANOTHER FANCY ONE WITH

CIRCLES AND I CAN'T DESCRIBE IT. >> IT WAS TOWARD THE END, WASN'T

IT? >> THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND

MAYBE KEN CAN EXPLAIN. >> WE WERE PACKAGING THIS AND TALKING TO RETAILERS AND THE LIKE AND SO, RIGHT NOW, THIS

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SAYS COLLIER'S LEAD AND WE WOULD PREPARE ALL OF THE MATERIALS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO AND THAT'S A PART OF OUR AGREEMENT AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT AND GO OUT INTO THE MARKET, OUT INTO THE WORLD WITH IT.

>> SO THERE'S MO TO-DOS AND THE REPORT IS STEP ONE.

WHEREVER WE ARE ON THIS LINE GRAPH AND SO WE'VE GOT MORE TO DO. AND SO I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE THREATS AND I WANT TO DIAL INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND MAKE SURE THAT

WE ARE ABLE TO COMBAT THREATS. >> SURE.

I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE MORE EXPANSIVE AND THAT'S MY PART OF THE REPORT THAT I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR MORE DATA THERE.

I DON'T LIKE SURPRISES. I LIKE TO LOOK AHEAD AND TAKE EVERY STEP AND MAKE IT'S THE RIGHT ONE.

I DON'T LIKE TO REDIRECT UNLESS IT'S THE RIGHT ONE AND THAT'S JUST ME. IF THERE'S MORE DO AND MORE ANALYSIS TO BE DONE GOOD, LET'S CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

A PART OF THAT IS TO REEVALUATE. I GOD TO GOT GOT TO THE E.

>> WE BELIEVE IN THE PLAN. WE BELIEVE IN THE DATA.

BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THERE'S A TRADER JOE'S OUT THERE THAT IS

READY, WE REEVALUATE. >> WE WANT TO MAKE CURTIS HAPPY.

>> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I AGREE I YOU AND I'M TORN WITHIN.

I TUG-OF-WAR ABOUT HAVING AN APPLE STORE DOWNTOWN.

WAS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD EVER EVEN THINK OF.

WOULD MY KIDS OR GRANDKIDS WANT THAT OR NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. WE'LL ORDER IT ONLINE.

THAT'S THE OTHER THING. THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THIS EQUATION THAT WILL PUT A COUPLE OF BLIPS ON THE RADAR SCREEN.

>> WE HAVE A VERIZON STORE, BUT YOU WANT APPLE.

>> MY LAST COMMENT ON THIS -- WERE YOU DONE, COMMISSIONER?

>> I'M GOOD. >> I THINK YOU ELUDED TO IT.

ARE WE SEEING SOME OF THE BRANDS SCALE THEIR FOOTPRINT? MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED A POINT ABOUT NO BIG LARGE SCALE, BIG DESIGN, BIG BOXES, BUT HAS COVID CAUSED THEM TO SCALE HOW THEY PRESENT IT? SO THE IDEA THAT MAYBE NOT A BIG APPLE STORE BUT THE CREATIVITY OF PUTTING IT IN A STRIP MALL OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

ARE YOU SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW? I'VE LIVED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PSYCHIATRY COULD THE COUNTRY AND YOU COULD HAVE FOUR OR FIVE THINGS IN AN AREA AND IT'S NOT A LARGE FOOTPRINT, BUT BRINGING THE NATIONAL BRAND RECOGNITION AND THE PRODUCTS THERE AND THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THE CONCERN OF BIG BOXY SIGNS EVERYWHERE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

ARE YOU SEEING THAT? >> I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW RETAILERS SCALE THEIR OPERATION AND EVEN INSPITE OF COVID AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND EXPANSION.

>> SCALE MEANING THE BIG, BOXY STORES ARE COMING DOWN.

YOU MENTIONED ABOUT DOCK STORES, RIGHT?

>> YES. YOU'RE TALKING SIZE?

>> YES, SIZE, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

>> GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE BIG WALMARTS, THEIR FOOTPRINT IS IS SHRINKING TO A SUPER DEGREE AND. TARGET HAS AN URBAN CONCEPT, WHICH IS MULTILEVEL AND IT'S A LOT SMALLER, SO THERE'S NO -- WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT THEY'VE GOT AN URBAN MODEL THAT WILL GO INTO A MIX-USED BUILDING.

>> AS WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS A POPULATION OF 40, 50,000 RIGHT NOW AND MAYBE WE CAN HOLD MORE, BUT I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THAT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THAT WE DON'T TAKE UP A LARGE PIECE OF PARCEL, BUT IT'S THAT URBAN SCALE AND HOW THEY BLEND THAT IN. I THINK THAT AS WE LOOK AT THIS,

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IN MIND.ETHING WE NEED TO KEEP- >> TARGET HAS -- I THINK THEY'RE 25,000 FEET IN THE URBAN MODEL AND GO INTO A FREE-STANDING STRIP MALL AND THREE TIMES THAT SIZE.

>> YEP. >> THIS MAKES ME WANT TO READ

THE FULL REPORT AGAIN. >> WELL, THROUGH ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, THERE'S A REAL PALPABLE EXCITEMENT WHERE THE MARKET -- WHERE FORT PIERCE IS POSITIONED OUT OF THIS COVID, NEW BUSINESSES INTO THIS AREA, DISCOVERING A LOT OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT THE AREA HAS TO OFFER, BEACHES, PORTS, HOMETOWN FEEL.

SO IT'S AN EXCITING TIME AND THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

[g. Resolution 21-01 reappointing members to the CRA Advisory Board.]

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS RESOLUTION 21-01, A RESOLUTION OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, CERTIFYING MEMBERS TO THE COMMUNITY AGENCY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS RESOLUTION WILL REAPPOINT CHRISTINA GIVENS AND THE REASON I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO VOTE IS BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE PRESS RELEASE, WE GOT THESE BACK AND NO MORE AND THAT WAS ALL OF THE SEATS WE HAD TO FILL.

>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE.

(ROLE CALL) >> AND NEXT RESOLUTION 21-02, A

[h. Resolution 21-02 authorizing the sale of 708 North 18th Street to the successful bidder, Tyese Miller.]

RESOLUTION OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, DETERMINING THE TRANSFER OF PROPERTY COMMONLY KNOWN AS 708 NORTH 18TH STREET DECLEARED A SURPLUS PROPERTY IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PUBLIC DETERMINING THAT A BID FOR THE REAL PROPERTY FROM A THIRD-PARTY PURCHASER FOR VALUE IN THE PUBLIC INTERESTS AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE OFFICERS, ATTORNEYS AND AGENTS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO TAKE ALL ACTIONS TO CARRY OUT TRANSACTIONS AND PROVIDING FOR

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MR. MIMMS.

>> I BELIEVE THE CLERK SAID IT ALL.

THE FINAL RESOLUTION TO GET THIS THING DONE.

>> WELL, WE NEED TO DO THAT. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE.

PAIR (ROLE CALL) >> NEXT, STAFF COMMENTS.

>> MR. MIMMS. >> NO MORE COMMENTS AT THIS

TIME. >> NO, MA'AM.

[9. BOARD COMMENTS]

>> BOARD COMMENTS. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT FPRA AND WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

>> NEW LEASE ON LIFE FOR FORT PIERCE.

>> DID YOUACCEPT BIDS ON THE KINGS PROPERTY.

>> YES, WE HAVE ACCEPTED THEM AND PRESENTED TO YOU FOR YOUR

ULTIMATE DECISION-MAKING. >> MORE THAN ONE?

>> I BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> AND I HAVE NOTHING.

AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE CHAMBER AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE AND WE'LL

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.