Apr 12, 2021 City Commission Conference Agenda

[1. Call to Order]

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CITY OF FORT PIECE AGENDA. PLEASE STAND FOR PLEDGR THE FLAG.

>> MAYOR HUDSON, PRESENT? >> MR. JAREMIAH JOHNSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY, FIRST ITEM ON THE

[a. St. Lucie County Public Schools Update - Graduation Rates and Student Achievement]

>> A LOT OF DISSTINGISHED PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

OUR FIRST IS FROM ST. LUCIE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

>> WE HAVE ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES MS. DEBBIE

HOLLY. >> CHAIRMAN, WELCOME.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

AM I ON? >> YOU'RE ON.

>> OKAY. YES, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. MADAME CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS AND MS. HOLLY OUR CHAIRS HERE AND ALSO LYDIA MARTIN.

A FEW WEEKS AGO HAD KNEE REPLACEMENT SURGERY SO I'M FEELING REALLY GOOD. THIS IS REALLY MY FIRST FULL

DAY BACK. >> NO BETTER PLACE TO BE THAN IN FORT PIERCE THIS MORNING. WHAT YEAR DID YOU GRADUATE

FROM CENTRAL? >> '85.

>> YOU WERE A CIVICS TEACHER. >> PART OF THAT WEARS OFF AND CAUSES YOU TO BE GREAT TECH COMMISSIONER.

>> YOU CAN CLICK IN ANY TIME HERE.

>> YEAH. >> I ALSO DIDN'T MAKE THE BASKETBALL TEAM UNDER SO WE WILL JUST LEAVE THAT ALONE AND KEEP IT MOVING. ANYWAY, IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. I WILL TALK ABOUT OUR GRADUATION RATES AND TALK ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

OUR GRADUATION RATES IS CALLED A LAGGING INDICATOR.

SO WHEN THE YEAR ENDS LAST YEAR AND LAST YEAR ENDS IN JUNE WE DON'T RECEIVE THE RESULTS UNTIL JANUARY.

BECAUSE OF COVID-19 WE DIDN'T GO OUT AND PUB SIZE TOO MUCH.

WE DID A LOT OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE PRESENTED IT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION LAST WEEK.

YOU CAN SEE OUR GRAD RATE WENT UP WITH ALMOST ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. WE WENT UP TO 98.3% THIS GOES BACK. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE DISTRICT WAS AT THAT TIME I ALWAYS SAY IF THIS IS WHAT YOUR STOCKS LOOK LIKE THIS THEN YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

WE'VE REALLY GOT A GREAT STORY TO TELL.

WE ARE NUMBER 10 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

YOU CAN SEE THE SIZES THERE. REALLY FOR THE LARGER DISTRICTS. WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE.

WHEN WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO THE PRESSURE COAST WE ARE NECK AND NECK IN THE COUNTY JUST SEPARATED BY 2/10 PERCENT AND POINT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THE GRADUATES SO IT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDES IS WHEN WE LOOK AT OURSELVES COMPARED TO THE TRI-COUNTY AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOP TIER SCHOOLS ARE ALL SCHOOLS FROM TREASURE COAST WHICH IS REALLY 100%.

ER THEY 9% OVER STATE AVERAGE. AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS 6% OVER THE STATE AVERAGE AND WHITE STUDENTS ALMOST A PERCENT OVER THE STATE AVERAGE.

WE ARE DOING WELL WITH ALL OF OUR STUDENTS WHICH IS IMPORTANT. WE TALK ABOUT CLOSING A GAP AND CLOSING AN ACHIEVEMENT GAP.

WE'VE DONE THAT WITH OUR GRADUATION RATE.

THAT REPRESENTS ALL STUDENTS FROM 68% TO 93%.

>> THAT SHOULD BE HISPANIC STUDENTS AT 94% AND AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS AT 93. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DO NOT

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WE ARE 33% HISPANIC AND 33% AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND 33% WHITE WITH OUR ENROLLMENT IN OUR SCHOOL CENTERS.

>> THAT'S AN OUTLINE. YOU FIND THAT IN MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY.

I WANT TO SHARE WEST WOOD ACADEMY.

THEY ARE GOING FROM 55% TO 96% OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WHEN WE BREAK IT DOWN BY RACE IT'S THE SAME STORY THAT WE HAD BEFORE. THOSE ARE TREMENDOUS REMARKABLE NUMBERS. 40%, HISPANIC 52%, AFRICAN-AMERICAN 52%. WE LOOK AT A LOT OF ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT WE FOCUS IN ON. YOU CAN SEE WITH OUR MAIL STUDENTS. PARTICULARLY IN 97%.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS. >> I WON'T READ THEM TO YOU.

THE INCREASE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

>> THIS REPRESENTS A FIVE YEAR INCREASE.

>> FINISHING A 6 YEAR COMING UP THIS JUNE.

THEN THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS BY FEMALES WE LOOK AT OUR YOUNG

LADIES AS WELL. >> YOU CAN SEE WITH OUR HISPANIC FEMALES A 100% GRADUATION RATE AND 97% FOR BLACK FEMALES AND 96% FOR WHITE.

WE ALSO HAVE ACCELERATION RATES.

WHAT YOU SEE THERE THE ACRONYMS. THEY STAND BACK AND ACE IS A CAMBRIDGE CURRICULUM.

DE IS DUAL ENROLLMENT AND CTE IS CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION.

>> AND THESE WERE ALL CONSIDER UPPER LEVEL COURSES AND WITH OUR SENIORS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 9393% OF THEM ENROLLED IN

THESE COURSES. >>

>> THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE ALSO THE GRADUATION RATE IS A UNIVERSAL NUMBER THAT'S COMPARING STATE TO STATE SO YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS ARE IN RIGOROUS COURSE WORK WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL SO WHEN THEY DO GRADUATE THEY CAN GO IN THE WORLD OF WORK.

IF THEY'VE GOT INDUSTRY CERTIFICATIONS THEY CAN ALREADY GO IN AT HIGH LEVEL PAYING JOBS AND NOT AT ENTRY LEVEL OR THEY CAN GO RIGHT ON INTO COLLEGE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE WHERE WE ARE THE TOP TEN. .

THE TOTAL RIGHT NOW OF STUDENTS IN ACCELERATED CLASSES AND THAT REP REPRESENTS AS WELL.

I COULD -- THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 SIDE AND BECAUSE ACADEMIC SIDE, WE ARE CHANGING OUR SUMMER PROGRAMS IN WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE.

WE HAVE THE SUMMER SCHOOL. WE ARE OPENING IT UP TO ALL STUDENTS WILL BE GRADES 1-5 AND WILL BE SESSIONS AND CAN COME TO ALL OF THOSE SESSIONS. IT WILL BE A FULL DAY TIMING

AND CAMP. >> IT WILL BE A FULL DAY SESSION FROM 8-2. TRANSPORTATION WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE STUDENTS. WE WILL TRANSPORT THEM TO THEM. WE WANT A BIG PUSH TO GET STUDENTS IN OUR SUMMER PROGRAM SO THERE WILL BE FURTHER AHEAD WHEN THE ACADEMIC YEAR STARTS NEXT YEAR.

SHRA*S KINDERGARTEN ROUND UP. WE HAD PAST LAST YEAR ACROSS THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY NOT ENROLLING IN SCHOOL.

MANY WAIT UNTIL THE WEEK OF SCHOOL TONE ROLL OUR STUDENTS.

WE WANT THEM ENROLLED NOW SO WE CAN GET THEM AND KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TO HAVE THEM EARLY FOR ONE DAY AND HAVE THEM WHAT

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>> THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT NEWS AND WE ALL USE YOU AND YOUR SUCCESSES AS PART OF OUR STORY WHEN WE TRY TO PROMOTE FORT PIERCE OBVIOUSLY AND EDUCATION IS A BIG COMPONENT

OF THAT. >> BUT LIKE THE STOCK MARKET WHEN YOU GET AN ABRUPT CHANGE ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHY.

>> IT'S OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S THE YEAR THEY CAME TO THE DISTRICT AND THE TEAM AND WHAT WE DID. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE GRADUATION RATES THEMSELVES AN SOME OF THE SCHOOL.

I KNEW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING IF WE MADE THAT AN AREA OF FOCUS AND DON'T WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE SENIORS.

YOU START WHEN THEY ARE FRESHMAN WHEN THEY COME IN.

THE DISTRICT AND OUR BOARD APPROVE WHAT'S CALLED GRADUATION COACHES WHICH IS ANOTHER COUNSELOR AND THEY WORK WITH THE STUDENTS FROM THEIR FRESHMAN YEAR AND SOPHOMORE AND SO WE CAN MONITOR THEM AND SEE WHERE THEY ARE. WHAT COURSE DOS THEY NEED.

DO THEY NEED TO TAKE THE ACT. WERE THEY SUCCESSFUL.

THEY HAVE TO PASS IN THE 10TH GRADE AND WHAT SUPPORT DO WE GIVE THEM AND THOSE GRADUATION COACHES REALLY -- THERE'S A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN THERE.

SO IT'S REALLY HAVING AN ADVOCATE FOR KIDS AND MONITOR THEM FOR IF FOUR YEARS SO THAT THERE'S NO SURPRISES COME IN TIME. THEY BOUGHT INTO THAT CULTURE AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT'S BUILT INTO THAT.

SO IT'S LEGIT AND A GREAT SUCCESS STORY AND ONE THAT

WILL CONTINUE. >> IT'S GREAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S GREAT.

>>> SUPERINTENDENT, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I TOO, WANT TO APPLAUD YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE RESULTS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION CONCERNING THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM.

SO, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY MAYBE WHERE THE SLIDE HAS BEEN AND COULD SHARE ANYTHING WITH THAT AND WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE WITH THAT AND WHAT PROMPTED THAT?

>> I'M GLAD THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT THAT UP.

THAT WILL BE IN EVERY SCHOOL. IT WILL BE IN YOUR HOME SCHOOL. IT WAS AT LIMITED SITES AT THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. EVERY SCHOOL WILL BE OFFERING THIS. WE DO -- WE HAVE ASSESSMENTS DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR JUST LIKE YOU WOULD GO TO THE DOCTOR FOR A CHECK UP. WE HAVE ASSESSMENTS AND WE BUILT -- -- AND WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT 3:00-5:00 READING AND THE FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS AND HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON THAT. WE HAVE CAREER RECOVERY WHERE THEY GO ONLINE AND THEY WILL DO IT ONLINE AND WE DO THAT ANYWAY TO CATCH UP. BUT RIGHT NOW OUR MAIN -- THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IS GOING TO BE ON THE PRIMARY GRADES AND THE EARLY GRADES OF KINDER THROUGH 2:00 BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET BEHIND THOSE AND WE CONTACTING THE SCHOOL AND INVITING THE STUDENTS OUT AND THEY WILL DO A MASSIVE PUSH TO GET THOSE STUDENTS IN. AND AS WELL AS FUN FOR THE STUDENTS SO -- IT'S ADDITIONAL SUMMER SCHOOL BUT IT'S A FUN

TIME FOR THEM.. >> I THINK THAT'S THE PART I NEEDED TO HEAR AGAIN. YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED AND WILL INVITE THEM AND INVITE THEM IN TO COME IN AND THAT WILL BE A PHYSICAL FACE-TO-FACE INTERACTION.

>> IT WILL BE FACE-TO-FACE IN AUGUST.

WE HAVE A VIRTUAL PROGRAM WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO THOSE FOLKS WHO WILL CHOOSE THAT ROUTE.

BUT IT WILL BE FACE-TO-FACE. I WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.

I HEARD SOMETHING AND LARRY PARISH.

TALKING ABOUT THIRD GRADE LEVELS.

I THINK IT FITS HAND AND HAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AS FAR AS CAPTURING THEM EARLY AND GETTING THEM IN AN ASPECT AND I THINK ALSO I JUST HAVE TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT.

THAT'S A GREAT THING. I THINK THE NUTRITIONAL

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I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THAT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT FOLLOWS ME ON SOCIAL BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THAT. IT WILL BE POSITIVE INVESTMENT FOR OUR KIDS IN THE SUMMER. WE WILL GO IN THREE WEEK, TWO WEEKS. SIX WEEK, BASICALLY.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND JUST WITH THE NUTRITIONAL. WE WILL BE FEEDING THE STUDENTS AND ALSO HAVE KPHRAOUPBTY SITES LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR WITH DRIVE UPS. AND THAT INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED THROUGH THE DISTRICT AND IN OUR WEB-PAGE AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> YOUR PIERCE AND THE BOARD.

IT'S PERSONAL FOR ME. >> MY SON GRADUATED FROM LINCOLN PARK AND MY DAUGHTER GRADUATES THIS YEAR FROM HREUB LINCOLN PARK IN 2021. JUST INTERESTED IN THE DATA HAS REALLY CHANGED THEIR LIVES AND MADE A DIFFERENCE AND EVEN GIRL PANDEMIC. I TOLD LEAH MY DAUGHTER EUR.

I FEEL BAD FOR YOU. I HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC TO GET THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND AT THE SAME TIME.

>> SHE DIDN'T MISS A BEAT. SHE DIDN'T HICK UP AND HERE WE ARE MOVING ON TO GREATER THINGS IN IN HER LIFE.

SHE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TODAY.

LAST WEEK AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS.

I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE DOING THAT WITHOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE ESTABLISHED SO THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TIE IN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DATA.

HAVING A WIFE AS A TEACHER SHE TALKS ABOUT THESE THINGS.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHERE SHE IS OR WHAT THE STUDENTS ARE DOING I SHOULD SAY. IT'S UNIQUE HOW WEST WOOD HAS GROWN BECAUSE WEST WOOD IS MADE UP OF DIFFERENT STUDENTS FROM DIFFERENT MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND WHEN YOU START TYING THAT IN TOGETHER IT'S REALLY BUILDING THAT FOUNDATION.

THE FOUNDATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND LOOKED THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND GOOD FOR THE COMMUNICATION TO BE HAD WHETHER THEY ARE TALKING WITH THE FAMILIES OR THE PARENTS.

MY STUDENT IS GOING TO GO IN THE MILLER PROGRAM OR WHATEVER AND THEY WANT TO GO TO WEST WOOD THEN YOU START MAKING THAT CONTACT TO FIGURE OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR AMBITIONS ARE AND. IT'S JUST A GREAT TOUCH.

SO I SAID THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE BOARD FOR DOING THAT.

IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND YOU'RE SEEING THE RESULTS OF

YOUR HARD WORK. >> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THE TEACHERS. THEY ARE THE BEDROCK OR THE FOUNDATION. . THAT'S THE GREATEST YEAR WE HAD WHERE WE'VE STRETCHED OURSELVES.

IF YOU ASKED YOUR FIVE -- IT'S THE STUDENTS AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO DO AND A LOT TO LEARN.

I'M SO PROUD OF THEM AND ALL OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PIVOT. WEAR NOT DONE YET.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GRADUATION IN A FEW WEEKS.

THAT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER THAT WILL BE HERE OVERNIGHT.

WE WILL BE DOING IT AGAIN LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.

>> DO YOU SEE YOUR NEXT YEAR IN THE FIVE BAND PRETTY CLOSE

TO NORMAL. >>> I HOPE.

>> WE CAN'T REALLY PLAN FOR THAT.

>> I THINK BASED UPON THE DATA AND THE TRENDS KEEP GOING WHERE THEY ARE GOING. WE WILL COME BACK TRADITIONAL AND I ANTICIPATE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 72% OF IT.

SO WE WILL BE DOING A PUSH TOMORROW NIGHT AT OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. THEN WE WOULD HOPE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE STUDENTS WILL BE BACK IN SCHOOL BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTE FOR THEM BEING IN FRONT OF A TEACHER. WE CAN YOU BALL THEM AND SEE

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THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.

>> AS FAR AS YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TEACHERS ARE ON BOARD FOR THAT ALSO.. AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT AND WE APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS IN OUR WHOLE QUALITY OF LIFE AND IN OUR AND ALSO -- I'M ASSUMING YOU WERE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE INDIAN RIVER -- THERE'S A NEW LEADER THERE.

HE'S IN DYNAMIC AND WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE WHOLE

COMMUNITY I THINK. >> WE'VE ALWAYS HAD GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM PARTICULARLY WITH CAREER EDUCATION. WORKING WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND HIS CREW.

WE'RE REALLY ENTWINED WITH THE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND OFFER PROGRAMS TO HELP HERE AT THE PORT.

WE PUT IN LAST -- I THINK THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR NOW.

WHERE THE ENGINES ARE PREPARED WHICH IS JUST EXPANDING THE PROGRAM. WE HAVE FARM CITY TECHNOLOGY.

WE'VE GOT GAMING. WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN OUR SCHOOL CENTERS THAT HOPEFULLY WHEN THE STUDENTS GRADUATE THEY WILL STAY HERE IN COMING GOING IN A COLLEGE AND THEN COME BACK FOR TEACHERS.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A TEACHER WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED PROMISE IS A PROMISE. YOU GO TO COLLEGE FOR FOUR YEARS AND COME BACK AND GUARANTEE A TEACHING POSITION IN ST. LUCIE LUCY COUNTY AND THAT IS GROW OUR OWN AND YOU CAN EXPAND THAT FOR DIFFERENT STUDENTS.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE LEARN FROM OUR SPEECH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE EXPORT IN FLORIDA FROM THE UNIVERSITIES IS THEY DON'T COME BACK TO FLORIDA.

BUT WITH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES THEY TEND TO STAY HERE. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT

FACTOR TO THINK ABOUT. >> ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO SUPERINTENDENT CHAIRMAN.

WHAT'S ON THE WISH LIST. WHAT YOU NEED SUPPORT FROM?

>> I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IS IT YOU NEED SUPPORT WITH AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL AND THE SYSTEM AND YOU NEED THE CITY CAN HELP.

>> IT'S COMMUNICATION WITH THE PARENTS.

THE FIRST AND BEST TEACHER SHOULD BE THE PARENT.

THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. NOT ONLY HERE IN ST. LUCIE BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. YOU GET THE WORD OUT FOR SUMMER SCHOOL. IF YOUR CHILD GOING IN KINDERGARTEN. YOU NEED TO REGISTER THEM NOW.

WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE CHURCHES AND OUR ORGANIZATIONS TO PUSH HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. AND COMMUNICATE ON WHETHER THERE'S CHALLENGE HERE. WE'VE ALWAYS WORKED VERY THE WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR AND IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

PART OF THAT IS COMMUNICATION. WE HOPEFULLY WILL OPEN OUR SCHOOLS UP NEXT YEAR FOR MENTORSHIPS AND FOLKS THAT COME IN OUR SCHOOLS TO WORK WITH STUDENTS ONE ON ONE WHETHER IT'S ACADEMICALLY, WHETHER IT'S SOCIALLY OR THE MOTIONAL LEARNING IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE ACADEMIC PIECE OF THAT. AND JUST CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THE PARTNERSHIPS AND THE BRIDGES THAT WE HAVE OUT

THERE. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND YOU TOO CHAIRMAN.

[b. St. Lucie County Chamber of Commerce - Update on Seven Gables House Visitor Center]

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE COUNTY OF COMMERCE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE HOUSE VISITOR CENTER.

>> BEFORE WE BEGIN. I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE COUNTY COMMISSION CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> DO YOU HAVE LEAD IN FOR THIS?

>> NO, I DON'T. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. >> I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. COVID-19 GOT IN THE WAY OF THAT. AND WE WERE CLOSED FOR A TIME BUT WE ARE JUST GETTING AN UPDATE.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. WE WENT ON A FEW YEARS AGO AND

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SO WE ALSO AFTER A COUPLE OF DECADES LONG PARTNERSHIP THE CHAMBER AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IT JUST NEEDED TO BE UPDATED A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE SURE OUR BROCHURES WERE SIMILARLY AFFIXED AND A PLEASANT AREA TO WALK IN TO.

A SUMMARY WHO IS A FRIENDLY FACE.

SHE'S IN THE BACK THAT YOU SEE EVERY TIME YOU OPEN TO SOUTHERN GABLES. SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR ABOUT A YEAR. WE GET GREAT COMPLIMENTS.

SHE'S THE OFFICIAL FOR THE MANATEE CENTER AS WELL.

THEY COME AND ASK WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE BEEN.

WE ARE OPEN TUESDAY-FRIDAY 10:00-3:00 AND TUESDAY-SATURDAY. WE ARE OPEN SATURDAY AS WELL.

HERE'S THE FRONT ROOM. WE TOOK ALL OF OUR BROCHURE HOLDERS DOWN AND BOUGHT THESE THAT ARE FIXED TO THE WALL JUST TO KEEP IT NEED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE.

WE NOW FEATURE LOCAL ARTISTS. THE ST. LUCIE CULTURAL ALLIANCE HAS A NEW CEO AND WE WORK WITH HER.

THIS IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO FAR VERY LONG TIME ACTUALLY BUT WORKING WITH INDEPENDENT ARTISTS ON A DAILY BASIS BECAME VERY TOUGH. SO WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FROM ST. LUCIE CULTURAL LINES. THEY SPEAR HEADED THIS TO GET SOME OF THE LOCAL ART FOR SALE IN THERE.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WEAR OFFERING, JEWELRY, ALL KINDS OF STUFF, PAINTINGS AND GLOBES, IT'S VERY INTERESTING. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER FOR A WHILE PLEASE TAKE A WALK AROUND.

WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO INVITE YOU FOR THE IP EVENT SOON. WE ALSO PARTNERED AND IT'S WAY OUT ON KING'S HIGHWAY AS YOU KNOW AND THEY OFTEN GIVE US CITRUS TO COME IN THE CITY OF FORT PIECE AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD RETURN THE FAVOR BY OFFERING SOME OF THEIR ITEMS GIVING SOME MORE INTEREST IN HEADING OUT FOR THEIR TOURS AND TO SHOPS AND WE HAVE SOME OF THEIR CREAM AND SOME OF THEIR HONEY AND IT DOES QUITE WELL OVER THERE.

VISITORS LOVE OBVIOUSLY -- OBVIOUSLY VISITORS ARE GOING TO BE DOWN OVER THE PAST YEAR BUT WE WERE CLOSED FROM APRIL TO SEPTEMBER DURING 2020 AND WE OPENED IN SEPTEMBER ON A LIMITED BASIS AND WE JUST SORT OF GET A FEW VISITORS AND QUICKLY TRANSITION TO BEING OPEN FIVE DAYS AWEEK OR FOUR DAYS A WEEK. IN OCTOBER-DECEMBER WE HAD 544 VISITORS WHICH IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE DOWN.

EVEN IN 2021 WITH LIMITED MOBILE OF FLORIDA RESIDENTS WHICH IS WHERE OURS COME FROM. THAT IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA IS PRETTY MUCH SHUTDOWN. WE HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MANY OF THEM. WE ARE AT 1487 OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2021 WHICH IS NOT BAD BUT THREE MONTHS.

THAT'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT COMES THROUGH THAT SOUTHERN GABLES HOUSE FOR VISITOR'S INFORMS ON A DAY -- INFORMATION ON A DAILY BASIS, ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

WE HAVE FOR YOU AN INVITATION TO HEAD OVER AND SEE THE NEW ART THAT'S BEING DISPLAYED. EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON OVER THERE AND THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE.

WE SET IT FOR JULY 8TH. THE HOUSE NEEDS SOME REPAIRS AND I KNOW THAT OUR RENEWAL PERIOD IS UP.

SO GETTING ENOUGH TIME TO GET THROUGH THAT.

I WILL INVITE YOU OUT TO THE VIRTUAL PROGRAM P EVENT.

IN THE -- VIP EVENT. I WILL PASS THIS ON TO CLAIRE COX SO ALLOFF CAN FIND THAT ON YOUR SCHEDULE.

AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT. I THINK AS WE TRANSITION INTO A MORE TRANSITION THERE'S NO EXPERIENCE.

THEY WILL CREATE THIS KIOSK THAT ARE INTERACTIVE.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT AS A REPLACEMENT FOR THAT ONE ON ONE INTERACTION WITH PEOPLE

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>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON? >> THANK YOU, TIER THERESA.

ENLIGHTENING FOLKS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S COUNTY, CITY OR WHATEVER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

LOOKING AT THE BUILDING ITSELF, I'M GOING TO GO

FACILITIES, RIGHT? >>> IS MIKE HERE?

WILL HE COME UP? >>> HERE.

FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. YOU'RE A TENANT.

YOU'RE INSIDE THERE. YOU OPERATE OUT OF THERE.

THE IT THE IDEAL -- IS THE BUILDING OKAY.

IT'S OLDER AND HISTORICAL AND WE MOVED IT NEXT TO THE WATER WHICH CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE TO MAINTAIN A STRUCTURE OF THAT SIZE AND

CAPACITY. >> AND AGE.

IS THE LOCATION IDEAL IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE?

>> WELL OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE MY SPER -- PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK THE LOCATION IS IDEAL. PLENTY OF PARKING TO THE MARKET. THE LAUNCH IS THERE.

WE -- IT IS GREAT LOCATION. IT'S A GREAT LOCATION FOR ALL OF THE THINGS DOWN THERE. THE PARKS, IT'S A GREAT AREA.

SO DEFINITELY I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC PLACE FOR A VISITOR CENTER. AS YOU MENTIONED THE BUILDING IS NATIVE WARD AND IT'S VERY OLD AND IT IS PRETTY MUCH ON THE WATER RIGHT NOW. SO IT DOES EXPERIENCE ITS FAIR SHARE OF MAINTENANCE NEEDS. WE TRY TO KEEP UP WITH IT.

IT IS TYPICAL AND IT'S AGING. WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FACILITIES.

SO IT IS DEFINITELY SHOWING SOMEWHERE AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME MAJOR TREATMENTS HERE SHORTLY ON THE HOUSE.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> NOT TO GET IN THE DETAILS BUT IT'S A CONCERN AND WE ARE COMING IN TO OUR BUDGET SEASON AND WE HAVE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE REAL.

>> AS THE OWNER AND WE HAVE TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WILL PROVIDE AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE PROVIDED.

WHAT ABOUT THE CHALLENGE? YOU MENTIONED THE BOAT RAMPS.

ARE THERE ANY CHALLENGES WITH PARKING OR COMPLEX WITH USE PATTERNS? IS THERE ANYTHING HAPPENING THERE THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED WITH.

>> I'M NOT THERE ON DAILY BASIS.

I DO KNOW THAT THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE HAS HELPED QUITE A BIT OVER THERE AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT IS A BOAT LAUNCH SO THERE ARE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS OFTEN PARKED IN THAT AREA.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LOT OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

>> AND THE OTHER THING COMMISSIONER AND ONE THAT THE MAYOR IS JUST LONG TERM COMMISSIONERS HERE TOO.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FROM THE DRIVE TO THE MANATEE CENTER BECOME THE DESTINATION FOR ALL THINGS RELATED TO VISITORS, MUSEUMS MAYBE GET THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM, SMITHSONIAN. THEY ARE OUT THERE'SLATED ON THE ISLAND. -- ISOLATED ON THE ISLAND.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THOSE BIG FACILITIES EXACTLY.

BUT GETTING FOLKS THAT COME IN TO AN AREA AND EXPERIENCE WHAT THE TREASURE COAST HAS TO OFFER.

I REMEMBER TAKE FIELD TRIPS AS A YOUNGSTER WITH THE DISTRICT AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR CLASSES TO GO AND EXPERIENCE ALL THINGS RELATED TO HISTORY AND MUSEUM AND COMMERCE AND THE VETERAN'S PARK TIE IT ALL TOGETHER.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A C-PLAN BASE ALSO.

BUT THOSE ARE JUST GIVING ME A THINK ABOUT PLANNING AND FACILITATING THE THINGS THAT ARE TO THE TABLE, TOO.

LONG TERM I GUESS I WILL END LIKE THIS.

IF YOU THINK THAT THERE'S ANOTHER IDEA OR ANOTHER PLACE.

IT'S ABOUT 4,000 CARE FEET OR SOMETHING.

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>>TY LOVE THE IDEA OF JUST HAVING AN AREA THAT HAS ALL OF THAT STUFF. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW.

A VISITOR CENTER. WE JUST TRY TO MAKE LOSSES OVER THE FEW YEARS AND WE FINALLY GOT TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN BREAK EVEN BUT WE ARE SELLING JUST ABOUT ANYTHING OUT OF THERE THAT WE CAN. THE EXCURSION TICKETS ARE THE MUSEUM, THE NAVY SEAL, THE AQUARIUM AND HAVE ALL OF THAT IN ONE PLACE. AND HAVE A CENTER A VISITOR CENTER SUCH AS OURS THERE THAT CAN UP SELL.

IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE AQUARIUM YOU ARE GOING TO ALL OF THEM. MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE MOVED TOO FAR WAY TO WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY

. >> THERE WILL BE A PLACE FOR US. WE DON'T NEED LARGE SPACE.

EVEN MORE THINGS ARE GOING ELECTRONIC. BECAUSE OF HIS AGE AND IT WILL BE A PRICEY ENDEAVOR KEEPING THAT GOING

LONG TERM. >> THANK YOU.

>> JOHNSON & JOHNSON THIS MORNING.

>> ASKING ALL THE QUESTIONS. >> HIGHLIGHT A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES ET CETERA. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT THOSE NON-PROFITS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WISH TO HAVE THOSE MATERIALS THERE TO BE A CENTER FOCUS.

IT JUST TYPED IN VISIT FORT PIERCE AND GOOGLE IS WHAT I DID. GABLES DID COME UP.

WHEN I CLICKED ON SEVEN GABLES I DIDN'T GET A WELCOME I GOT PUSHED TOWARD THE CHAMBER WHICH IS FINE.

THERE MAY BE A REASON FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE EXPOSURE AND TO INCREASE THAT BRAND THAT WE HAVE. MAKE IT CONTINUE TO BREAK TRACTION AND IT CAN BE WHAT WE LOOK AT.

THAT EXPERIENCE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE A WELCOME CENTER.

I WENT LOOKING FOR VISITOR STUFF AND I ENDED UP AT THE CHAMBER WHICH IS NOT A BAD PLACE.

I WAS LOOKING FOR VISITOR STUFF.

I THINK THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT. THAT'S FROM MY SPECIALERRIVE.

>> THEY HAVE MORE ANALYTICS. WE HAVE A GOOD POINT THOUGH.

I DEFINITELY UNDER STAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AFTER SEVEN GABLES. WE HAVE SOME RULES BECAUSE OF THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

IT HAS TO BE TOURISM RELATED. SO WE DON'T HAVE MATERIALS RELATED TO NON-TOURISM ENTITIES OUT THERE.

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>> YOU DO HAVE TO BE TOURISM RELATED.

>> I UNDERSTAND. IF.

>> AS FAR AS THE LANDING PAGE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO PROMOTE MORE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

WE SHOULD PROBABLY EXPLORE. >> FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THIS SEVEN GABLES THING. WE HAVE TO BE DISCOVERED AS A CITY NOW AND PEOPLE ARE GOOGLING A VISIT OF FORT PIERCE OR WHAT'S GOING ON IN FORT PIECE AND THOSE ARE ALL KEY PHRASES THAT CAN GET US THE ATTENTION PARTICULARLY OF THIS RESOURCE AND DIRECT THEM TO COME AND LEARN ABOUT EVERYTHING FORT PIERCE IN ONE STOP THAT'S TOURISM RELATE SOD

THANK YOU. >> OUR COMMUNITY IS BUILT ON AND SEVEN GABLES HOUSE IS A STORY.

>> THAT'S WHY IT FITS SO WELL. WERE STEEP IN HISTORY.

WE HAVE FOLKS COMING HERE JUST FOR THAT.

WHERE IS THE ONE POINT THAT IS A LIGHTNING ROD FOR TOURISTS.

OUR WATERFRONT AND OUR WATERFRONTS AND OUR MUSEUMS AND WE GO ON AND ON AND WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL.

SO ALL THAT TO ME -- I HAVE A PLANNER AND I HAVE A PLANNER AND REALIST OVER HERE SO LIKES TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE. THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE TO ME. EVEN FOLKS IN SOUTHERN PORT ST. LUCIE. THEY COME UP HERE AND THEY ENJOY AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE ALSO HAVE IN PORT PIERCE.

IT BRINGS ALL THESE FOLKS TO ONE SPOT AND YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. IT'S A OLDER HOME.

WE HAD SOME ISSUES. IT'S WELL WORTH OUR EFFORTS TO KEEP IT GOING GOING FORWARD. IT IS PART OF THE STORY.

IT IS PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

FORT PIERCE IS JUST THAT. WE ARE AN OLDER COMMUNITY.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH MANY CHANGES ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST TEN YEARS AND WE ARE BEING DISCOVERED.

SO YOU STUMBLE UPON IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT IN THE INTERNET TO FIND THIS PLACE.

YOU JUST STUMBLE UPON IT. WHEN YOU DO THE EXPERIENCE IS WONDERFUL. IT TELLS YOU WHAT WE ARE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. I GET IT.

I LOVE IT THERE. IT JUST DOESN'T FIT.

IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE A NICE BUILDING THERE.

I HAVE THIS MULTISTRUCTURE BUILDING GOING ON THERE.

>> THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. >> IT STOPS YOU FOR A MOMENT.

WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? THAT ALL WORKS IN TO THE PLAN, TOO. I GET IT.

IF IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAYS PART OF OUR STORY I'M ALL --

>> AND THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER.

I ALSO THINK THERE'S MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL TO ACQUIRE SOME GRANTS PERHAPS. IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY SINCE YOU ARE THE OWNER AND WE ARE JUST THE OPERATOR.

SO I'M HOPING TO LOOP THE TDC IN A LITTLE MORE IN THE FUTURE SO YOU CAN EXPLORE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

BECAUSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WILL HAVE TO BE NECESSARY AS

TIME GOES ON. >> AND I REALLY APPRECIATE SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE I'VE WATCHED IT AND YOU'VE REALLY STEPPED UP THE GAME AT 7 GABLES.

WE DID THAT WITH THE EXCURSIONS AND THE GIFT SHOP AND SO THERE'S OTHER REASONS TO GO THERE.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND YOU ARE MOSTLY RUN BY

VOLUNTEERS. >> COVID-19 TOOK OUT THE VOLUNTEERS. THEY ARE OF A CERTAIN AGE.

BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MADE AND THE GIFT SHOP WAS EXPANSIVE.

WE ACTUALLY JUST FITTED THAT FOR COVID-19-RELATED REASONS TP*R AS WELL. WE DO HAVE A STAFF PERSON THERE AT ALL TIMES. WE DO HAVE SOME DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS THAT STILL COME IN. PEOPLE WOULD COMMENT WHEN THEY COME IN. WE HAVE A GUEST BOOK AND PEOPLE WOULD MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY LIKE ABOUT FORCE PIERCE. IT'S NICE TO SEE.

WE HAVE THAT AND THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY COMMENTS TODAY.

WE WILL DO THAT. >> A LOT OF THAT WAS REALLY REWARDING. WE KNOW WE GET THE COMPLAINTS.

IT'S NICE TO GET THE COMPLIMENTS.

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>> WE ALSO GET DESK IN THE FRONT LOBBY.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S STANDING ROOM ANY ANYMORE.

GIVE THEM THE TOUR. THEY ENTER THROUGH THE GIFT

SHOP AS THEY SAY. >> THAT'S SMART.

I'M THINKING AS YOU'RE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION WE NEED TO GIVE YOU MATERIALS WHICH IS COMING UP IN MAY.

[c. Parks Advisory Committee Presentation on Fenn Park.]

>> WE HAVE AS THE CITY IMPROVING THE PARK FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE BEGAN INTERNALLY AND THEN WE ASK THE YOUTH COUNCIL TO ASSIST US.

WE WORK WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND NOW WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PARKS

ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >>> THEY ARE THERE WHO IS BEING ASSISTED BY MR. MIKE R I OS WHO GIVES RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS PARK WHICH IS LEASED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. >> WHO IS BEGINNING?

>> GOOD MORNING MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

>> THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FAR LONG, LONG TIME.

>> THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> THE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT THEY RECEIVED -- WITH THAT

TAKE OVER. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, MADAME MAYOR. COMMISSIONER AND STAFF. .

LOCATED AT 23RD AVENUE K. RIGHT NOW JUST TO GIVE YOU BEARINGS IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH BOYS AN GIRLS

CLUB. . >> IT WAS THE SIGN OF PARKS AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

WE PROVIDED THAT FROM THE YOUTH COUNCIL WITH SOME LINES FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

THIS PROJECT AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF IT.

IT'S SURROUNDED WITH CHILDREN. THAT'S FOR FAMILIES THAT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF OUTDOOR HANG OUT SPACE IF YOU WILL. AS USUAL WE GO TO THE DAY FIRST. WHAT THEY FELT IS MOST IMPORTANT. WHAT THEY WOULD MOST LIKE TO SEE IN THE PARK. AND WHEN YOU SAT AND -- WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WALKING THE PARK TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS SAYING AND WHAT COULD BE THERE ET CETERA. .

THEY WERE CREATIVE. -PBLG NEARING DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR HEALTH IN A COUPLE INSTANCES IN IMPROVING OUR DRAWINGS AND ALSO FOR CONTINUING ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND HELPING OUT WITH A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

WE PRIORITIZE THE LIST. NUMBER ONE WAS THE BASKETBALL COURT. WE WERE THERE THAT DAY.

IT WAS FULL OF KIDS OF ALL AGES IT SEEMED TO US FROM THE BOY'S AND GIRL'S CLUB. THEY WERE USING THAT AREA A

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FND IT LIKE IT IS. PRACTICE BASEBALL.

I LIKE TO EMPHASIZE PRACTICE. AT FIRST WE SAY BASEBALL FIELD AND IT BECAME THIS BASEBALL FIELD WITH A LOT OF EXTRA REQUIREMENTS THAT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS WERE EVEN THINKING. THIS BASEBALL FIELD IN ACCORDING TO SOME OF OUR MEMBERS WHO KNOW BETTER HOW I DID SAID IS USED WITH REGULAR GROUPS REGULARLY FOR PRACTICE.

THE BASEBALL FIELD IS IN POOR CONDITION AS IT EXISTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF GRASS GROWING UP KIND OF HALF CLAY, HALF GRASS. SO IT NEEDS SOME REPAIR, THE FENCING MAYBE A COUPLE OF SIMPLE BENCHES BEHIND THE BACK SLOT. AND FIGURE OUT IT COULD BE ALL GRASS WITH JUST PORTABLE BASES AND THE MOUND AND STILL THE YEARS THEN FOR OTHER SPORTS AS WELL.

SO IF THAT PROVIDES ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR OTHER MULTIUSE SPORTS THAT'S GREAT. WE JUST REALLY FEEL STRONGLY AND FROM ALL THE DATA FROM THE CITIZENS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT THERE AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE ORIGINAL DRAWING GIVEN TO US.

THERE WAS AN OVERWHELMING DRY FOR THIS PRACTICE FIELD.

SO NOW YOU WILL SEE IN A MINUTE THAT'S BEEN DRAWN UP BY TPHAOERPBLG AND SO WE FIGUREDDED THAT OUT. IT'S A TABLE WITH A LITTLE COVER OVER BY THE TREES WHERE THE SWING SETS ARE NOW. BUT IT WOULD BE NICE FOR FAMILY TOES HAVE A NICE TO SIT AND MAYBE THEY GO AND HAVE A PICNIC AND THE KID CANS PLAY AND THAT SORT OF THING.

IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE. IT'S A PLACE THERE AND THE THE CONDITION AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. THEN THE SPLASH PAD AND OUR INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURE. THE VOLLEYBALL FIELD WAS NOT BEING USED ACCORDING TO ALL THE INPUT.

JUST TAKE THAT OUT AND PUT ON THE PLAN TO DO AN INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURE. WE WITH FELT THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADVANTAGE FOR THESE KIDS WHO ARE NOT IN WALKING DISTANCE TO ANY POOL OR A WATER FEATURE FOR ESPECIALLY FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS. WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS.

ALL SORTS OF SPORTS AND THING CANS BE PLAYED IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT IS IN THE PRIORITY AS THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED ALL THE DATA WE MENTIONED EARLIER. THERE ARE SOME OTHER SOME OVER ALL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED.

SOME PARK RESTROOMS ARE REQUIRED BY THE CITY FOR THIS SORT OF PARK. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HUGE RESTROOM BUT NEEDS TO BE ONE BUT NEEDS TO BE SOME SUFFICIENT PARKING. AS I SAID EARLIER WE FELT THIS WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK NOT SO MUCH A COMMUNITY PARK AND THEREFORE DIDN'T NEED A WHOLE BIG PARKING LOT.

JUST SOME PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO DRIVE OVER BUT WE FEEL IT WILL BE PARKING AND BICYCLELING. YOU WILL SEE THE ENGINEERING WAS ABLE FIND SPACE FOR 13 PARKING PLACES. .

WE WERE IN PLACE WITH THAT AND FELT THAT WAS ENOUGH.

YOU WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF OPTIONS IN PLACEMENT PRATT PLACEMENT.

WE WOULD NEED THE HANDICAP PARKING SPACE THERE.

THE FENCING WOULD BE PROVIDED. IT'S VERY POOR AND NON-EXIST SO IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED AND ADDED.

IT WILL BE NICE WITHOUT. IT WILL CERTAINLY BE A HARD SURFACE PATH FROM THE HANDICAP PARKING WHEREVER THAT ROUND

UP. >> .

THE FUNDING WE DRIVE AS THE PRIORITIES.

IT'S HOW I FEEL. WE DO IDENTIFY PARKS IMPACT FEES AND KABOOM IS A GRANT PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES FUNDS

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AND THAT WAS RESEARCH ABOUT ONE OF OUR MEMBERS AND BROUGHT TO OUR GRANT FOLKS AND SCOTT AND OTHERS WHO REVIEWED IT AND SAID YES. IN IS DEFINITELY A VALID PLACE TO -- THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE ARE STRONGLY ASKING THAT YOU ARE INCLUDED IN THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN COMING UP SO QUESTION MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARK.

>> SO NOW I LIKE PICTURES RATHER THAN WORDS ANYWAY SO HERE'S THE PICTURE. AND THIS ACTUALLY IS TO STAY ON AT FIRST. WE JUST HAVE THE PARKING HAND DRAWN AND HE SAID IS THIS A SCALE?

I HAVE NO IDEA. >> IT MIGHT BE.

IT'S EVENT WALL. I WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO ENGINEERING AND THEY CAN DRIVE THIS IN.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE PRACTICE BASEBALL FIELD AND THE SIZING THAT AGAIN AND THE PARKING AND THIS IS DRAWN ON THE GOOGLE MAPS. IT IS A SCALE AT THIS POINT.

>> SO IN IS AS FAR AS WE GOT WITH THE CONCEPTIONAL.

YOU WILL NOTICE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PLACES FOR THE RESTROOM. WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR ENOUGH SCALE TO DETERMINE FOR SURE WHERE THAT WOULD BE. IF YOU NOTICE DOWN ON THE BOT TOM IN THE CENTER OPBGS, -- IN THE THE BOTTOM IN THE CENTER OPTION. YOU CAN DO THE HANDICAP PARKING PLACE OFF NORTH 23RD IF THE RESTROOM WAS DEEMED TO BE BETTER THERE IN THAT POSITION.

>> SO, THIS IS SORT OF A LAYOUT AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE BACKGROUND WHAT'S THERE NOW AND WITH THAT, WE CAN LEAVE THAT PICTURE UP IF YOU DON'T MIND AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION WE WILL CERTAINLY TRY TO ADDRESS

IT. >> MR. JAY JOHNSON.

>> A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I REMEMBER THERE BEING POST AND RAIL FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT STILL THERE? >> THE EAST AND NORTH?

>> YES. THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PAGE.

>> CORRECT. THE WESTERN PORTION I BELIEVE IT'S HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTY.

THERE'S A CHAIN LINKED FENCE ON THAT SIDE.

WE MOVED THAT ON THE EAST AND THE NORTH SIDE.

DO WE OWN UP TO THE BOYS AND GIRL'S CLUB.

THAT IS IN FORT PIERCE. WHERE IS THE BOUNDARY THERE

ROUGHLY? >> THAT WHOLE HOUSING AUTHORITY. A COUPLE CHALLENGES.

IT'S A REAL PANDEMIC. WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SPACES IS AND ALWAYS AVOID THE CONVERSATION OF HOMELESSNESS.

WHEN YOU CREATE PAVILIONS, IT'S FOR FAMILIES AND THE KIDS SOMETIMES IT'S USED BY OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE JUST TALK ABOUT IT.

NOT SURE WE DON'T DO IT. I SAY IT'S THE THOUGHTS IN OUR MINDS. I LIKE THE IDEA OF RESTROOM OPTION TWO. THE REASON I LIKE IT.

THEY ARE STILL OPERATING THERE.

>> SO I LIKE IT THERE. I COULD RATHER SEE A FIRST -- THINKING OUTSIDE OUT LOUD WITH YOU.

MAYBE AN EXTENSION OF THAT RESTROOM.

STRUCTURE. SO IT BECOMES ONE UNIT.

THAT WOULD ALSO BE YOUR OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.

I LIKE IT OUT THERE WHERE THE PLAYGROUND IS.

AT THE SAME TIME I WOULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WOULD PLACE STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.

MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD UTILIZE WITH THEIR ACTIVITIES OR MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PARTNERED WITH THEM. HAS ANYONE EVER TALKED ABOUT SPLASH PADS? I LIKE THEM AND WE ARE USING WATER TO CREATE A SPLASH PAD. JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT

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WE WILL NOT TALK ABOUT IT 20 YEARS FROM NOW.

I LOVE THEM. WE HAVE ONE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THIS YEAR. . I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S REAL CONVERSATION. THE INTERACTIVE FOUNTAIN.

THERE ARE WAYS TO DESIGN THEM. IT IS WHERE THE WATER CAN'T BE RECYCLED OR REUSED. IT'S A MATTER OF WHO DESIGNS IT AND WE CAN FIND AN ENGINEER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> RIGHT. THE REALISM IS WE CAN DO THAT.

IT'S JUST EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN ALSO.

>> NO PROBLEM.. >> THAT'S BY COLOR, THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S THE TRACK. IT'S CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE UTILIZED CHILDREN ET CETERA.

IT'S THAT KIND OF STUFF. SHE'S SKILLED IN THAT STUFF AND WOULD TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

IS THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT BRING IN THAT TYPE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT?

>> YES. I WILL LET THE POWER OF

ATTORNEY ANSWER. >> WE CAN HE DEFINITELY WOULD WT TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR ALL CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY.

I DON'T RECALL ANY OF THE DETAILS OF THAT AT THIS TIME.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SUGGEST.

>> IT IS A NEED IN OUR CITY THAT IT'S NOT BEING WIDELY TALKED ABOUT AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT TO ME.

THAT TEASE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT -- THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT TO DO THAT SO WE CAN FEATURE IT A PLACE TO NEED THIS TYPE OF RESOURCE. SHE CALLED IT UP SPECIFIC.

I'M SORRY I DON'T REMEMBER. SHE IS VERY VERSED AND SKILLED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS PART OF HIS PARK WITH THAT.

THE PROPOSED OPTION RESTROOM OPTION ONE.

I DO THINK WE NEED TWO RESTROOM FACILITIES.

I DO LIKE THE ONE UP IN THE CLUBHOUSE IN THE BOYS AND GIRL'S CLUB. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE BACK AND IN THAT CORNER IN THE PARKING FOR LAN TKEU CAP AND NEXT TO THE -- HANDICAP AND NEXT TO THE PROPOSED PAVILION.

IF YOU WILL HAVE A PROPOSED AREA OUT THERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE PRACTICING, YOU JUST PROBABLY WANT TO ELIMINATE ANY OPPORTUNITY OF PEOPLE COLLIDING WITH STUFF OR BEING IN THE WAY JUST SIT IN THE WAY THAT JUST TAKES UP THE SPACE UNNECESSARILY. TO ME IT SIX OUT THE WRONG WAY THERE IN THAT AREA. THE BASEBALL AREA AGAIN.

MUCH NEEDED. AS A FORMER COMMISSIONER OF BASEBALL IN THE NORTH SIDE. THERE'S ALWAYS A SHORTAGE OF PRACTICE FACILITIES. WHEY WAS PLAYING IN THE LEAGUE AND IS USED AS A PRACTICE AREA OF FOUR TEAMS THAT PLAYED IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PART OF TOWN.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IT BACK BECAUSE IT'S A SHORTAGE

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THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE CAN BE DOWN THE ROAD.

WE HAVE A BLANK SLATE HERE SO WE KIN VEST GATE ANYTHING.

>> JUST ALONE WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF BALL FIELDS.

THE KPHEURBL INVESTMENT WAS A LITTLE MORE COSTLY.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME GRANTS BECAUSE OF THE AREA THAT THIS WOULD BE IN WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY.

THIS WOULD BE A MEN DOUSE OPPORTUNITY TO -- THIS WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FOR THAT AREA SO THAT AREA COULD BE BRANDED IN SOME SENSE OF PRIDE AND INSTILLED IN THAT. SO, THAT WOULD BE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT. BUT THANK YOU.

>>> I LIKE THE IDEA. BUT AGAIN WE TALK ABOUT MULTIPLE USES IN A SMALL LITTLE PARCEL OF LAND.

THAT'S WHY I START ON ALL THIS.

I LIKE IT LAID OUT. IT IS A PRACTICE FIELD BUT I KEEP THINKING TO MYSELF. FORT PIERCE IS KNOWN FOR CREATING FOLKS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AN AVERAGE AND PLAYED PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.

I CAN SEE AN 8-YEAR-OLD KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK EVEN SINGLE TIME. YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SO DO WE ENVISION HAVING A FENCE AROUND THE PARK? WHEN YOU GET THE PARK ACTIVE AS QUESTION WANT.

ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE ALL THESE COMPETING EVENTS HAPPENING AND SOMETIMES YOU END IT WITH PROBLEMS.

>> COMMISSIONER, YOU HIT ON STAFFS' CONCERNS AND WHEN THE YOUTH COUNCIL FIRST GOT INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT AND IF YOU LIKE I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THE ORIGINAL DESIGNS WERE . ONCE IT WENT TO THE PUBLIC.

EXPRESS THEIR DESIRE TO KEEP IT THERE.

THE FENCING -- WHERE WOULD WE PUT THE FENCE? WOULD IT GO ALONG THE OUTFIELD? WOULD IT GO ALONG THE PARKING AREA.

THOSE ARE QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED FOR SURE.

BUT CERTAINLY A CONCERN. BUT AGAIN WE'VE GOT A BLANK SLATE HERE AND WE CAN DESIGN IT HOWEVER.

YOU KNOW THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE IN SOME VERY YOUNG ATHLETES THAT COULD DRIVE IT INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST WITH THESE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AGAIN. I KNOW WE HAVE THESE COMPETING USES GOING ON AND HOW MANY TIMES HAS THIS COMMISSIONER PUBLIC WORKSES OR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAD TO GET INVOLVED WITH THESE COMPETING USES BECAUSE WE ENDED UP WITH PROBLEMS. SIGNS GO UP.

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CAN'T REALLY HAVE A PRACTICE FIELD HITTING A BALL.

AND I THINK IF WE DO PUT THAT IN THERE.

PERHAPS A FENCE THAT WILL HELP AND MAINTAIN THE ACTIVITY WITHIN THAT AREA. THE TWO DESIGNS THAT WE'VE GOT WHEN THE YOUTH COUNCIL STARTED THIS PROJECT. I CAN SHARE THESE WITH YOUR. PARTNERSHIP KET OF INFORMATION.

-- PACKET OF INFORMATION. >> IF I JUST ADDRESSED YOUR CONCERN COMMISSIONER. THIS WAS THE SUBJECT OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND THE REASON THAT THE BASEBALL FIELD IS ELIMINATED BUT WHEN THE PARK COMMITTEE NOT ONLY DID IT FOR THEMSELVES AND GATHER THE DATA, THAT WAS THE TOP TWO THINGS EVERYBODY NEEDED AND WANTED AND OUR COMMITTEE IS NOT AFRAID TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS AND I'M SO PROUD OF THAT. I REALLY AM.

IT'S A GREAT COMMITTEE. AND THEY JUST STOOD THEIR

GRAND DIDN'T THEY? >> THEY BEAT YOU UP.

>> AND SAID NO RATHER THAN JUST ELIMINATE IT TO BE SAFE.

THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WERE SAID.

INSTEAD OF A PRACTICE FIELD COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MENTIONED

THAT. >> I THINK OUR COMMITTEE IF I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM PROPERLY SAID FIGURE OUTWEIGH TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD AND MAKE IT -- JUST DO IT. I THINK IF YOU DESIGNED THAT

WITH THAT IN MIND. >> THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY

GENEROUS TO US IN THE PAST. >> THIS WOULD ENHANCE.

THIS COULD BE PART OF THE E HREUGS.

I THINK WE COULD GET SOME HELP FROM THEM AND THIS WOULD -- THEY REALLY HELPED CREATE FIRST STEP PARK WHICH IS OVER THERE BY BY HAZEL IN THE RESOURCE CENTER OVER THERE.

I WANTED TO FIND OUT. IS THIS AN OFFICIAL CITY PARK? OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S ADDITION CITY PARK WE HAVE RESTROOMS AT CITY PARKS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT. >> WE MIGHT HAVE HAD PUBLIC

RESTROOMS IN EVERY PARK. >> .

>> . SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T THINK --TY SHARE CONCERN A LITTLE BIT.

ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY THERE AN LIVE THERE.

SETTLE DOWN AND LIVE THERE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING.

I KNOW THAT WHAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE PINE WOOD PARK IS IT'S DAWN FROM DUSK. THEY CAN'T SLEEP THERE OR STAY

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I THINK WHAT YOU DID IS YOU PRIORITIZED THEM.

THAT PRIORITY SHEET. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELD AND THE BASKETBALL.

THAT WAS NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.

ALL COULD BE DONE WITH INPUT WITH MAYBE RETHINKING.

MAYBE YOU DON'T DO A SPLASH PAD BECAUSE OF WATER CONSERVATION. MAYBE THE MULTIPURPOSE AREA.

THE BOY'S AND GIRL'S CLUB USES THIS AS THEIR PLAYGROUND.

WHEN THEY ARE THERE. THE. IT'S ALSO A NATIVE.

AND NOW IT NOW IT BACKS UP TO THE RICH HOUSE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A CENTER OF PEOPLE COMING IN.

YOUNG AND OLD AND I THINK THEY ARE STARTING WITH SENIORS.

SO I CAN SEE THAT THAT THIS PARK CAN KIND OF EVOLVE SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO RUSH TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE CHANGES OVER TIME. I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE THE PAVILION. WE CAN DECIDE LATER.

WE HAD A PRIORITY. I LIKE THE PRIORITY THAT YOU HAD. . I WAS AT DREAM LAND PARK ON SATURDAY FOR THE CIRCLE OF PRAYER.

I WILL SEE THE SPLASH PARK BEING HEAVILY USED BECAUSE WE HAVE IN FLORIDA PROBABLY NINE MONTHS OF THE YEAR THAT WE HAD GOOD ENOUGH WEATHER ACCOMPLISHES KIDS.

THEY DON'T CARE HOW COLD IT IS.

SO THE ONE THING THAT I THINK ABOUT WHICH IS NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION WHICH IS THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERY CHILD TO LEARN TO SWIM IN FLORIDA BECAUSE WE ARE SURROUNDED BY WATER AND WE DO EVERYTHING ON THE WATER AND THERE'S SO FEW OPPORTUNITIES ESPECIALLY FOR CHILDREN IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA TO LEARN TO SWIM AND THAT DOESN'T FIT IN

TO THIS DISCUSSION. >> MAYBE ONLY HAS TWO POOLS IN THE FORT PIERCE AREA. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

BEING ABLE TO SWIM. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER CONCEPTION WALL PLAN. THERE WERE TWO OF THEM IN. .

>> DID YOU ALREADY TAKE IT WAY?

>> IT'S STILL THERE. >> THERE WE GO.

>> THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. >> YEAH, BOTH OF THOSE OKAY.

SO BOTH OF THEM DID KEEP. I WAS WONDER IF THEY BOTH KEPT IN THE BASKETBALL COURT. IT'S TAKING UP SOME VALUABLE REAL ESTATE AT AN ACUTE ANGLE. I LIKE LIVING A SQUARE BOX.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS -- IT'S MADE.

>> IT CAN RELATE. I KNOW IT.

JUST SITTING RIGHT BY YOU. HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER PRESENTATION. WE GET STUCK SO MANY TIMES AND COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT THE BASEBALL SOFTBALL.

ALL OF MY KNOWN LIFE THAT I CAN REMEMBER PLAYING AND SOFTBALL BOTH BOTH WE ALWAYS GET STUCK IN THE IDEA THAT THE BASEBALL HOME PLATE NEEDS TO BE IN THE CORNER OF OUR INTERSECTION. IT'S WORST PLACE IN THE WORLD.

THERE ARE SOME KIDS THAT CAN HIT HOME RUNS.

I CAN TELL YOU 99.9% OF THEM GO BACKWARDS.

THEY ARE NOT HITTING HOME RUNS .

THEY PUT THEM IN THE ENTER INTERSECTION. THAT'S THE EXACT

SET UP. >> SO, I I CHALLENGE YOU TO MAYBE MANIPULATE THE DIAMOND. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECONFIGURE. MAYBE IT GOES INTO THE NORTHWEST CORNER AT 24TH AND AVENUE AS AN OPTION BUT I DON'T NOPE AS ONE OF THE SCALE OF DRAWING THAT WILL FIT WITH

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IT'S NOT THE RIGHT SPOT. IS IT ASPHALT?

CONCRETE? >> IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION.

THAT'S THE REASON IT WAS LEFT THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO YOUR POINT.

IT WAS A LENGTHILY TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

IT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S TO GET THAT IN THERE.

THERE WAS NO IDEAL LOCATION THAT WE CAN FIND ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE ON TOP OF THAT PAGE. THERE'S A 6-FOOT PRIVACY PAGE ON THE CHURCH. ANYWAY, WELL, THANK YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> AND STATISTICALLY IF YOU LOOK INTO SPORTS LIKE THAT -- YOU HAVE MAJORITY OF RIGHT HANDERS IN THIS ROOM. SO WE KNOW THAT FOUL BALLS ARE GOING TO GO TO OUR LEFT BACK AND TO THE LEFT AND TO THE LEFT. SO THIS HAS BEEN IN REALISM %-Ú. YOU SAID THEY HAVE A BLANK SLATE. IT WAS LIKELY CLEAN AND MAKE IT WHAT YOU WANT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON YOU HAVE THE GOOD POINT ABOUT THE PAVILION OR FOR RESTROOM.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING OPTION ONE OR MOVING IT UP CLOSER TO THE HANDICAP FROM A MAINTENANCE FACILITY PERSPECTIVE. JOIN THATPY -- PAVILION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. SAVE YOURSELF SOME HEADACHE LATER ON AND TRY TO FIX THE ROOF AND REPAIR A BUILDING OR PAINTING. CREATE SOMETHING NICE.

IT'S JUST IN THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TWO RESTROOMS THAT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE AND

FUTURE PAINT FENCE COSTS. >> TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA. THAT HARD LINE.

THOSE WOULD BE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BARRIERS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ANYONE FROM A STATE PARK AND DRIVING THROUGHOUT THAT FIELD AREA. SO IT'S KIND OF ENCASED THERE.

>> WE WOULD MAKE IT WHERE THE PARK WOULD BE -- YOU CANNOT ACCESS TO PARK. THAT'S IN THAT AREA AND ACTIVITY.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IN ALL COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR. I DON'T THINK THIS FACILITY OF BASEBALL WOULD BE ACTUAL TO OF L AND MAKE IT CONTACT.

THE KIDS CAN PUT A BALL WITH A BAT AND GET SOME TYPE OF CONTACT. IF YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND I STILL THINK THIS IS A WORKABLE PLAN AND CERTAINLY A BASKETBALL COURT IS A LITTLE DIEING DIAGONAL BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME GREAT ATHLETES COMING OUT.

WHEN THEY GET ON SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THEY FLY A LITTLE HIGHER. IT'S SOME NEW ATHLETES THAT COME OUT OF THAT AREA. I'M HAPPY THAT WE WILL DO SOMETHING TO THAT AREA. WE SHOULD EVEN LOOK AT OUR COUNTY -- OUR COUNTY RESOURCES COMMISSIONER CHAIR.

WE WILL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. THANK YOU.

>> WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>>

>> . AS YOU GO TO OUR BUDGET TALKS AND GET THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

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WE CAN CERTAINLY GO IN IF WE HAVE WIND FALL MONEY.

WE CAN START ADDING SOME OF THESE AMENITIES SOON.

>> WE APPRECIATE YOU. >> IT'S TRAFFIC COMING.

[d. Traffic Calming St. Lucie County Presentation on Indian River Drive Fort Pierce Police Department on Response to Speeding]

WE HAVE THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> YES, MA'AM.

WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BE AVAILABLE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ASPECTS RESPONSE.

WE HAVE MR. DON WEST WITH THE INFAMOUS GREEN JACKET.

I ASKED HIM TO WEAR THAT GREEN JACKET.

>> THE ONE AT THE MASTERS? >> HE'S BEEN WEARING IT FOR

THE LAST 20 YEARS. >> SOME OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S ON THE SCENIC HIGHWAYS.

I READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT YOU. THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND OUR RECENT PUBLICATION OVER THE WEEKEND.

THIS WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT.

>> AND THE COMMISSIONER IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER HE WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO THE PRESENTATION OR AFTER EITHER WAY.

>> IT'S FINE WITH ME. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> YOU GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> HE WAS OUT OF HIS CHAIR LIKE THAT.

>> YOU ALL HAD THE COMPLAINTS. WE HAD A NUMBER OF FATALITIES.

I ALMOST APOLOGIZE TO HER. LAST YEARS STAFF HERE FOR THE WHAT IS THE WORDILY SAY? FOR THE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT THE CHALLENGE HERE IS HAVING PEOPLE AGREE.

I WILL TELL YOU I HAVE BEEN ON THIS SITUATION FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS. EF TIME YOU GET CLOSE TO AN ANSWER THEN YOU GET IF AY SAYERS.

DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION ANYMORE.

IF WE CAN'T FIND COMPLETE CONSENSUS WE HAVE TO GO FOR SOMETHING TO MAKE THIS MORE SAFE.

IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE'VE BEEN NO PUN INTENDED IS WE GET STARTED. WE GET AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN SAFEN THE ROAD AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE SAY NO I DON'T WANT THAT. I DON'T WANT THAT.

THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'LL HEAR TODAY THAT MAY BE AGREED TO BY OUR GROUP HERE THAT THEY MAY NOT BE THE APPROPRIATE ELEMENT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS ROAD SAFER. IT WAS ONCE A WAGON TRAIL.

LIT'S FACE IT. -- LET'S FACE IT.

>> NONETHELESS, I WILL ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.

HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THE SOLUTIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THIS ROAD SAFER.

WITH THAT BEING SAID THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS UP TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>

>> SO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE CON VARIATION ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. AND JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS

UPDATE. >> .

THE QUICK ACTION THAT THIS TOOK WITH REGARD TO THE STOP SIGNS. WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THAT BACK IN FEBRUARY. WE HAD SOME QUICK TURN AROUND IN YOUR PART TO GET US A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE STOP SIGN. THAT HELPS OUT.

I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT DESIGN PART OF IT NOW.

JUST WORKING WITH US ON HOW TO GO ABOUT DESIGNING SOME

IMPROVEMENTS. >> I KNOW YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE STUDY BACK IN A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

THEY LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY AND THEY DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT IS THE APPROACH FOR

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IT'S A LONG CORRIDOR. WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE ROAD NOT JUST SPECIFIC AREAS. WITH A STOP SIGN THERE.

IT MAKES SENSE. FIELD DATA FROM THE ORIGINAL STUDY SHOWS THAT WAS AN AREA WHEN SHE SAW SOME INCREASED SPEED ACTIVITY SO IT MADE SENSE TO FOCUS IN ON THAT SEGMENT. WE LOOK AT THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD AND ALONG THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE ROAD.

WE HAVE THAT DOWN THE MIDDLE WITH THE RAISED MARKINGS AS WELL. WE'VE HAD THOSE BEFORE.

WE HAD ONE OR TWO OUT ON THE DRIVE.

WE WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME MORE OF THOSE ALONG THE LENGTH AND SOME SPEED REDUCTION MARKINGS WOULD BE THINGS LIKE TRANSFER MARKS. FOR EXAMPLE WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE STOP SIGN. YOU SEE MARKS THAT ALERT THE DRIVER THAT THERE'S A SIGN UP AHEAD WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE STOP. IN THE PHASED ONE PROJECT WE LOOKED AT BUDGETING $250,000 AND IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO GET THAT BUDGET SET UP AND GET THE DESIGN STARTED. WE GOT THE LETTER FROM THE CITY FROM THE MAYOR AND THIS BOARD ASKING US TO LOOK AT EXTENDING THE DESIGN INTO UP TO THE CITRUS BRIDGE.

THEY DID ALLOCATE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

SOME ADDITIONAL $500,000 AND IN ADDITION TO THE $250,000 THAT WE SET UP FROM PHASE I. THAT GIVES US THE ABOUT TO LOOK AT DESIGNING THE WHOLE THING FOR THE WHOLE CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY FROM IS SAVANNAH ALL THE WAY UP TO CITRUS BRIDGE. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSED IN STILL ON PHASE I. ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY ABOUT THAT. BRIAN AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING A LOT AT THIS AND HE'S GOT A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE ON THE DESIGN PART BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS PHASED APPROACH.

SO WE ARE GETTING SOME A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT'S BEST THING TO DO AND WHAT'S THE BEST TYPE OF APPROVEMENT TO MAKE. APPROVEMENT TO MAKE.

WE THINK THE PHASED APPROACH IS THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION. WE BUILD PHASE I AND THEN WE SEE HOW IT WORKS AND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET IN THE CONSTRUCTING PHASES TWO AND THREE.

THAT IS THE APPROACH WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWING YOU THE RAISED MARKING. THAT WOULD BE THE OUTSIDE EDGE WHITE LINE. THAT RAISED PART IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE ACTUAL PAINT STRIPING.

IT'S SIMILAR TO THOSE REFLECTIVE MARKERS YOU SEE ON THE ROADWAY. IT'S PART OF THE PAINT.

THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REFLECTIVE MARKER.

IT'S PUT IN AS THE ACTUAL STRIPE.

THEY ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE FOR EXAMPLE AT A STOP SIGN APPROACH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT GIVES US TO WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE MORE SPEEDING ACTIVITY. IT WILL GIVE THEM SOME PH-FGS THEY CAN USE FOR ENFORCEMENT. WE PUT IN THE FIRST SIGN.

THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. WE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH IT.

THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL.

THEY HAVE BEEN COMPLYING WITH IT.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE RUNNING THROUGH THIS SEASON. WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO

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. IT GIVES LAW ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO WRITE TICKETS SO IF SOMEONE RUNS THE SIGN OR DON'T OBEY THE SIGN.

THAT GIVES US A LEGAL BASIS TO WRITE THOSE TICKETS.

THESE ARE ALL REALLY TOOLS THAT WILL HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT TOO IN THEIR ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE SPEEDING.

FOR OTHER THING THAT TOOK PLACE.

WE WERE IMMEDIATELY ABLE TO START ORDERING THOSE MATERIALS. WE ALREADY DONE THAT.

WE ORDERED THE STOP SIGNS WERE MAKING THE HOUSE WITH THE SIGN SHOP BUT THERE'S SOME FLASHING WARNING SIGNS THAT ARE SOLAR POWERED THAT WE PUT IN THE APPROACH TO THE SIGNS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW AT WALTON ROAD.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THE SIGN INSTALLED BY LATE LAST MONTH OR EARLY MAY. WE SOME SCIENCE OUT THERE NOW.

-- WE HAVE SOME SIGNS OUT THERE NOW.

LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT STOP SIGNS WILL BE COMING SOON TO THESE INTERSECTIONS SO THE PEOPLE WILL START TO GET USED TO IT. WITH THAT, I'VE GOT MR. GOOD HERE. HE'S BEEN LOOKING AT THE DESIGN. ONE OF THE THINGS BRIAN WITH HIS SURVEYS. WE START TO LOOK AT THE PAVEMENT. WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK TO ALREADY LOOK AT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS OUT ON THE DRIVE.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS THEY HAVE IS THE EDGING OF THE PAVEMENT.

THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE EDGES ARE IN SOME AREAS THERE'S A DROP OFF WHERE THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT IS.

WE FOUND THAT THE PAVEMENT WILL BE CRACK AND UNLESS WE GO IN AND DO SOME REMEDIAL WORK. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE INITIALLY. WE WERE LOOKING TO DESIGN SOME STRIPING AND INSTALL IT. NOW WE ARE FINDING AS WE LOOK CLOSER AND GET IN DESIGN AND SURVEY WE DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH PAVEMENT. THEY IT WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL APPLY I'M SURE ALONG THE FOLDING FOR THE ROAD.

WE WILL HAVE PLAN ON HOW WE WILL TREAT THE ASPHALT AS WELL AS DESIGNING THE STRIPING. WITH THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WE WILL HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING APRIL 27TH.

IT'S IN THE EVENING ON A TUESDAY.

IT'S 6:00 IS WHEN IT STARTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEND IT TO MR. MIMS. IT GIVES ALL THE DETAILS OF THE MEETING SO YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE VIRTUAL MEETING AS WELL. WE EXPECT TO DO A LOT OF LISTENING AT THAT MEETING. WE WILL PRESENT THE CONCEPT FOR DESIGN AND DO A LOT OF LISTENING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS AND TELL US WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE IDEAS BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK .

SO FOR THAT. ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

>> SO, COULD YOU GO BACK THAT THE PICTURE OF THE -- THIS PICTURE HERE. THE PAVEMENT.

>> SO THIS WOULD BE A STRIPING ON THIS LINE AS WELL AS TO THE EDGING. SO IT WOULD BE IF YOU HIT IT IT WOULD HAVE BE A DRIVE TO EARTH SLOW DOWN OR GO BACK TO THE CORRECT. AND HERE IS WHERE WE LOOK INTO SPEED TABLES. IS THAT ALSO AN OPTION.

>> WE HAVE EVALUATED SEVERAL IN THE STUDY THAT HE MENTIONED THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PREPARED. THE CHALLENGES WITH THE GEE METIC PLACES SUCH AS SPEED TABLES THAT YOU MENTIONED IS THERE'S NUMEROUS HAZARDS ALONG THE RIVER DRIVE DROP OFFS OBSTACLES THAT ARE LOCATED WHAT WOULD BE DEFINED WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE ROAD.

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-- EVALUATED THEM. THEY ARE EFFECTIVE.

IT'S JUST THAT WE FELT THAT USING GEE METIC STRATEGIES SUCH AS THAT COULD REPRESENT ADDITIONAL HAZARD.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE A PROBLEM THAT WOULD BE FIXED. WE CAME UP WITH A BUNCH OF SOLUTIONS. INCLUDING GIVING THE CITIZENS RADAR GUNS. %-Ú. MAKE SURE WE CONTACT THE PRESSURE COAST ASSOCIATION. THE CYCLING WORLD USES INDIAN RIVER DRIVE EVERY WEEKEND AND EVERY WEEK THEY ARE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS TO BE ON. YOU DON'T HAVE A BIKE LANE SO THEY ARE HUGGING THAT SIDE THERE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE SHORT TIME THAT I WAS A CYCLIST. I ACTUALLY MY BIGGEST INJURY WAS ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. I GOT IN A POTHOLE AND I DROPPED DOWN AND IT POPPED MY TIRE AND THROUGH ME.

I AM DONE WITH THIS. PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM.

SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHINGS TO RECOMMEND.

THEY PROBABLY KNOW THAT ROAD BETTER THAN ANYBODY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY USE IT. THERE A WOULD BE MY

RECOMMENDATION. >> IS THERE A WEIGHT CAPACITY OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. DO WE HAVE NOTIFICATION OF

THAT? >> IT'S NOT RESTRICTIVE IN ANYWAY. IT DOESN'T HAVE A RESTRICTION ON THAT. I HAVE A REASON ON THAT OF ALL THINGS. A TPO MEETING A COUPLE MONTH AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS GO. I USE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE TO GET BACK DOWNTOWN. I FOLLOWED A LANDSCAPE TRUCK ALL THE WAY FROM WALTON ROAD TO SEA WAY DRIVE OF ALL THINGS. I THOUGHT FOR SURE THE LANDSCAPE TRUCK WOULD STOP AND HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT

THEY WERE DOING MAINTENANCE. >> WE ACTUALLY HAD A REASON TO

BE THERE. >> I COUNTED NO LESS THAN NINE TIMES THAT TRUCK WHICH WAS A FOUR DOOR LANDSCPE TRUCK WITH A 14-FOOT DUMP BED ON THE BACK OF IT, DUAL -- I TAKE THAT BACK, THE TRAILER WAS AXEL. IT WAS TRUCK.

IT'S A DIESEL LANDSCAPING TRUCKS FOUR DOOR WITH THE BED AND THE 28-FOOT ENCLOSED TRAILER.

SO I DELETED A PICTURE. DON'T EVEN GO THERE.

BUT NO LESS THAN NINE TIMES IT RAN OFF THE ROAD AND THE TRAILER OFF INTO THOSE AREAS WHERE WE KNOW MOTORISTS DRIFT WHERE THERE'S A POTHOLE ON THE SIDE.

PROBABLY A DOZEN TIMES THEY CROSS CENTER LINE THAT'S ARE TRAVELING DOWN. THEY DRIFTED AWAY FROM THE TREE. THE QUESTION ON MY MIND.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER SEEN A CAPACITY OR A RATING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING. I TPUG U YOU ARED OUT THEY DON'T HAVE A CUSTOMER ON THE ROAD.

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I CAN TELL YOU THEY WEREN'T TRAVELING 35 MILES PER HOUR.

IT WAS MORE THAN THAT. SO, JUST ONE OF THOSE

THOUGHTS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

THAT IS A COMMENT WE HEARD FROM ME AT THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. THEY'VE ASKED US ANT TRUCK TRAFFIC AND IS THERE WAY WE CAN RESTRICT TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THEY TOLD US THE SAME THING. WE HAVE SEEN SEMITRUCKS TRAVELING ON THE ROADWAY AT TIMES.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY LOOK AT.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. >> IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT A TOOL. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM TOOLS TO ADMINISTER WHAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED.

THE PAYMENT MARKINGS WILL THAT APPROACH SYSTEMS?

>> COMMISSIONER, THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS ARE SHOWN IN THE IMAGE BEFORE YOU IS LOCATED PRIOR TO THIS HORIZONTAL CURVES THAT ARE OUT THERE. THERE'S ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE OUT THERE PROVIDING NOTICE TO DRIVERS THAT REDUCE THE SPEED.

I THINK IT DROPS IT DOWN FROM 35-25 AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. THERE WOULD BE SOME PAVEMENT MARKINGS THAT ENCOURAGE THEM TO SLOW VEHICULAR SPEEDS PRIOR TO ENTERING THOSE CURVES. THE DISTANCE IN ADVANCE IS PROBABLY THE FIRST MARKING THAT YOU WOULD SEE WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT 450 FEET. IN ADVANCE OF THE CURVE GIVING THE DRIVER ENOUGH TIME TO SLOW DOWN IN ADVANCE BEFORE

ENTERING. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. YOU GET USED TO TRAVELING A CERTAIN WAY AND THOSE THINGS BECOME.

THEY DON'T MAKE AN IMPACT TO MY VISUAL FEEDBACK AS I'M DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME BUT HOPEFULLY IT HELPS THE FOLKS THAT ARE USED TO THE ROADWAY.

. THAT WOULD BE LIMITED OVER 13-MILES. WHILE ONE CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION A TRAFFIC TABLE MAY BE APPROPRIATE. THERE'S NO HAZARDS AND THERE'S NO DROP OFF. THERE'S NO STRATEGY THAT CAN BE EFFECTIVELY IMPLEMENTED OVER THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR TO ENCOURAGE SLOWER VEHICULAR SPEED SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT.

WHERE IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I BELIEVE TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH THE LOCAL JUST TO SEE WHICH SECTION OF ROADWAY. I BELIEVE THE SEA WAY TO THE ROUND ABOUT GOING SOUTH WHICH WE HAVE AVENUE A IS STILL DOWN

ISTY? >> .

>> SO WE TALKED TODAY ABOUT 7 GABLES HOUSE.

SO I WOULD -- MY PERSONAL REQUEST WOULD BE A SPEED TABLE IN THAT SECTION. WHEN WE WE REDO THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY WHICH HAS A LOT OF POTHOLES.

IT'S ROUGH. IF WE CAN DO AN ELEVATED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK PSEUDO SPEED TABLE AT THE SAME TIME.

WE CAN DO THAT ALONG THAT SECTION.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP. BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS COME OFF A SEA WAY THEY JUST SPED OVER AND THE FOUR LANE BRIDGE AS FAST AS THEY CAN TO GET TO THE LIGHT AT THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND GO SOUTH AND GO IN TO DOWNTOWN THEY MAINTAIN THAT SPEED. TAKING THAT CURVE AND DOWN MOVING SOUTH ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

THEY SAY IT HAS HELPED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STOPPING.

HAS IT HELPED SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. IS THERE A WAY TO -- IT

HAS A EFFECT. >> IT WILL GO ALONG THE STOP SIGN ITSELF. IT HAS A SPEED TABLE.

>> IT WILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE EFFECT AND CREATE A STATEMENT

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IT DOES HAVE A LIMITED EFFECT. WE WILL SEE THE REDUCTION SPEED. PEOPLE DO SPEED UP AGAIN.

THEY TEND TO GO BACK TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

>> DO THE ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, ARE THEY HAPPENING IN A CERTAIN SPOT THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN

OTHERS. >> WE HAVE -- WE ARE LOOKING THAT THE NOW. WE STILL HAVE THE ACCIDENT DATA. THERE HAS BEEN MORE IN THE NORTHERN SECTION OF INDIAN DRIVE.

WE HAD THEM ALL OVER. WE HAVE SOME ACCIDENT DATA THAT WE SHARE WITH YOU TOO. IT'S A BUNCH OF DOTS ON THE MAP AND WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

I THINK THEY ARE MORE. ARE YOU DOING THAT DATA? KPHOL VERSUS NO ALCOHOL. THAT IS GOING TOO FAST AROUND THAT ROUND ABOUT. WE KNOW THAT SPEEDING AND ALCOHOL AND DRIVING AT NIGHT ON ANY ROAD IS BAD BUT ON THOSE OR ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IS REALLY BAD.

ON THE EASTSIDE OF THE DRIVE. AM I CORRECT THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE ON THE EASTSIDE. AM I REMEMBERING THAT RIGHT?

>> YES. >> YOU CAN'T WIDEN THE ROAD.

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. I JUST WANTED TO THINK THAT THROUGH. IF THAT WOULD BE ON THE WHOLE AND WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHO ARE OPERATING THE VEHICLES. YOU MAKE THE ROAD SAFE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPERATING THE VEHICLES AND ARE IN A HURRY AND CARELESS OR TOO YOUNG TO THINK ANYTHING BAD WILL EVER HAPPEN TO THEM IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM. IF YOU GO OFF THE ROAD.

YOU HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM THERE.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WE DON'T CREATE A HAZARD TRYING TO

SOLVE THE PROBLEM. >> WHAT WE WANT TO DO. .

WHAT IS REALLY USING A ROAD TO BE USED AS A COMMUTE.

>> WE ARE ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE AND THE SAFETY SIDE LEGISLATING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS OBVIOUSLY IMPOSSIBLE. WE SEE FOLKS TODAY IN BLUE TODAY. THEY ARE FOLKS IN GREEN THAT WILL BE OUR MOST SRABL TOOLS GOING FORWARD.

>> IF WE CAN CREATE THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT GIVES THEM THE TOOLS TO GET SOMEBODY FROM GOING THROUGH STOP SIGN OR SPEEDING ET CETERA BUT AGAIN DIALING IN TO WHERE THESE SPEED RADAR SPEED RADAR SCIENCE ARE IN REALLY TROUBLE SPOTS. I WILL SHARE YOU SOME OF THOSE ARE PUBLICLY MEETING. SO WHILE WE HAVE THE ALTERNATIVES IS IN THE PARKWAY EXTENSE.

CREATE A SOUTH ALTERNATIVE. THE ONLY WAY TO GET PEOPLE OFF

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FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT THEY ARE REALLY TO GO UP THE SAVANNAH CLUB WHO ARGUED AGAINST CUTTING THROUGH THE ROAD AND SO FORTH. SO IT BECOMES A POLITICAL ISSUE. WE HAVE THAT ON OUR ALONG RANGE FROM THE LONGEST TIME AND OF COURSE POLITICS PLAY A PART AND IT SET ASIDE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TPO NEEDS TO REALLY FOCUS ON AND THE FOLKS NEED TO HELP.

THAT ARGUMENT EVEN FURTHER TO ACTUALLY GET INTO THE PLAN AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT PAID FOR.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING THIS AND WE ARE

HERE TO SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF.

OKAY, GREAT. >> YOU TALK A T-BT VEHICLE DATA. WAS THAT FROM THE DISTRICT? IS THAT THE ACCIDENT DATA REPORT FROM THE FIRE DISTRICT?

>> YES IT WAS. I THINK WE GOT THAT.

>> I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET THE NEWS LETTER OUT FRONT.

IT DESCRIBING THE TOWN HALL MEETING.

I MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT. >> CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS? FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

GOOD MORNING. I BROUGHT WITH ME.

HE IS A PART OF TRAFFIC HOMICIDES AND GIVING YOU STATISTICAL INFORMATION REGARDING THAT. EVERYONE HAS TO UNDERSTAND. HE COMES TO THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS SPEEDING IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST COMPLAINTS RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE PROPERLY ADDRESSED TRAFFIC AND OTHER CONCERNS AND THE PUBLIC IS BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION.

ISSUE IS THAT WE HANDLE APPROXIMATELY 1,500 CALLS PER WEEK. IT'S A STRAIN FOR OFFICERS.

BETWEEN THAT WE DEAL WITH TRAFFIC ON THE DRIVE ON INDIAN RIVER AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES AND WE DO OUR BEST TO MEET THESE NEEDS. IT BECOMES EXTREMELY HARD FOR YOU AND DO OUR BEST TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE START OFF.

>> THANK YOU. >>> GOOD AFTERNOON MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONER, CITY MANAGER.

SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC ISSUES, IT RANKS IN THE THE TOP 25% FOR TRAFFIC FATALITIES INVOLVING BICYCLISTS. WE SEE AN INCREASE IN FORT PIERCE AND ALONG THE AVENUE. ONCE WE REALIZE THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THESE AREAS WE TEAMED UP IN A PROGRAM CALLED STAY ALERT, STAY ALIVE. WE DID HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR FACEBOOK PAGE DOCUMENT BACK IN NOVEMBER.

WE TRAINED IN STATUTES WILLING TO PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC LAWS. THEY ALSO PROVIDE ALL THE MONEY TO PAY THESE OFFICERS DURING OFF DUTY TIMES TO COME IN AND PROVIDE THIS TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT THUS NOT TAKING ANY OFFICERS AWAY FROM ROAD WHICH IS THEIR NORMAL DUTIES.

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>> THIS WAS AN EXTRA ASSIGNMENT THAT THEY GAVE US FUNDING TO DO BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY FATALITIES IN THESE AREAS. THESE 14 OFFICERS HAVE BEEN OUT SEVERAL TIMES SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2020 AND THE CONTRACT ENDS IN MAY. WHERE WE ARE STILL OUT AND WE LOOKED FOR BICYCLISTS WHO DO NOT HAVE LIGHTS ON THEIR BIKE.

WHERE DO PEDESTRIANS CROSS IN THE STREET? IN THE CROSSWALK. THERE'S DIFFERENT LAWS THAT WE EDUCATE PEOPLE TO TRY TO REDUCE THESE FATALITIES THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THESE AREAS. SINCE WE HAVE DONE IT.

WE HAVE SEEN A SMALL DECREASE AND IT'S WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA AGAIN IN JULY.

TO HELP CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM. IT'S IN ORANGE AVENUE WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS THE PEDESTRIAN THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? >> WERE YOU AWARE OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU BROUGHT UP?

>> I HAVE NOT BUT WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.

>> YOU SEE HIM ON WEEKENDS. EVERY BEFORE YOU. THAT'S THE MEETING THE OTHER DAY. WHAT ABOUT THE MOTORIZED BICYCLES WEAR SEEING RIGHT NOW -- WE'RE SEEING THESE GUYS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON BIKES. SIT FACTORING -- IS IT FACTORING IN THAT, IS IT A WHOLE DIFFERENT CATEGORY.

IT'S BICYCLES WE HAVE TO PEDAL OURSELVES.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT SCOOTERS OR ELECTRIC BIKES.

WE ARE SEEING DOWNTOWN THAT WE UTILIZE RIGHT NOW.

WE SEE THAT AND WE CAN STOP THEM AND EDUCATE THEM ON PROBABLY USE ON THE CROSS AND WALKING THEIR BIKES ACROSS THE INTERSECTION. THE BICYCLES AND PERSPECTIVE PE.

THE MANPOWERRED BICYCLES. >> SO AS WE LOOK INTO THIS.

THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN BECAUSE SOME OF THESE GUYS ON THOSE MOTORIZED BIKES ARE FAST BECAUSE THEY ZOOM THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS FAST. THERE ARE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES WE HAVE TO FEEL THROUGH THE CONTRACT.

RIGHT NOW IT'S BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS.

>> WHAT WILL HAPPENS -- THEY TRY TO GET US TO CHASE THEM WHICH WE WON'T DO BECAUSE OF THE DANGER THAT'S INVOLVED.

WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH. WE HAVE OFFICERS 069 INDIVIDUAL. WHAT WE ARE ASKING OUR PUBLIC TO DO AS WELL. THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ON HOW DO WE EVEN DEAL WITH THAT. IT'S FOR A FUTURE.

I SUSPECT THAT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE WAY OF HAVING A MOTORIZED VEHICLE WITHOUT HAVING A DRIVERS LICENSE IS CONFISCATED TO USING THAT.

THAT'S ALL. IT'S NOTHING MAJOR.

I WAS CURIOUS AS TO HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.

THOSE ARE ILLEGAL TO OPERATE, PERIOD.

THE BICYCLE WITH THE MOTORS ON THEM. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED.

THAT'S AN UNREGISTERED VEHICLE AT THAT TIME WHEN IT HAS A MOTOR ON IT. I THINK IT HAS TO BE A TWO

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SOME NUMBER. . I WILL NOT GO THERE. .

>> SO TO WHOEVER IS THE BEST SUITED TO ANSWER THIS.

SO WE ARE MONITORING AND LOOKING AT TRAFFIC ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. HAVING THOSE STOPS OR ACTUAL RESIDENTS IS THERE A PERCENTAGE?

>> ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF IT. FOR THE MOST PART -- WHETHER TRAVELING FROM HERE TO PORT ST. LUCIE.

I DO KNOW THAT I WOULD PROBABLY SAY 75% OF THE STOPS THAT WE HAVE DONE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA.

>> I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE NUMBER APPLIES TO ANYONE.

IF YOU HAD TEN STOPS. >> THAT'S THE GUIDELINE.

>> AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN, TOO.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE UTILIZING OUR RESOURCE AND WIDELY SO. WE ARE LOOKING AT STATISTICS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A DAILY BASIS A.

WE ARE LOOKING AT FATALITIES. WE ARE LOOKING OVER THE FOLKS THAT ARE TELLING DOES SAME STORY.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE AND TO TALK ABOUT.

LIKE I SAID I WANT TO BRING THE REAL CONVERSATION TO THE TABLE. IT'S MEETING AFTER THE INFORMATION ON HOW MANY STOPS YOU'VE MADE -- SO I PUT TOGETHER WE PUT TOGETHER THE TRAFFIC STOPS AFTER WE CONDUCTED AFTER LAST YEAR UP TO YEAR TO DATE.

THERE ARE 8,495 WRITTEN WARNINGS. OUT OF THOSE 221 OF THOSE WERE SPEEDING CITATIONS WITH 388 WARNINGS CITATIONS GIVEN. WE HAVE 2,037 TRAFFIC TRASHES

LAST YEAR. >> YEAR TO DATE.

WE HAVE WRITTEN 527 CITATIONS, 2,065 WARNINGS.

WE'VE WRITTEN 14 SPEEDING CITATIONS, 79 WARNINGS AND 55 CRASHES WITH THREE FATALITIES THIS YEAR ALONE.

>> WE CONCENTRATED ON THE NEED .

LAST YEAR ALONE WE CONDUCTED 79 HOURS OF ENFORCEMENT WITH THREE SPEEDING CITATIONS AND ZERO CRASHES. .

SET RADAR AND THE HOUSES THE GETTING ON THE TRAFFIC STOP SIGN AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.

THIS YEAR WE CONDUCTED 27 HOURS OF ENFORCEMENT WITH ONE CITATION FOR SPEEDING AND ONE WARNING.

WE HAD ONE TRAFFIC CRASH. ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE LAST YEAR WE CONDUCTED 47 HOURS OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

WE ARE AT 67 CITATIONS FOR SPEEDING, 58 FOR WARNINGS.

WE HAD 23 TRAFFIC CRASHES WITH TWO FATALITIES.

THIS YEAR WE CON CONDUCTED FIVE HOURS WITH ONE CITATION FOR SPEEDING AND THREE WARNINGS AND WE HAD THREE TRAFFIC CRASHES AND ONE FATALITY THIS YEAR ALONE.

>> HOW MANY CRASHES FROM LAST YEAR ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE?

>> LAST YEAR WE HAD 23 CRASHES AND TWO FATALITIES.

WE HAD 41 WARNINGS. WE HAD ONE FATALITY.

THIS YEAR WE HAD FOUR CITATIONS FOR SPEEDING.

WE WERE GIVEN FIVE WARNINGS. WE HAD 20 CRASHES BUT NO FATALITIES. THIS YEAR WE'VE WRITTEN SIX

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>> WHAT YOU THINK WHEN PEOPLE TAL TO ME ABOUT INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. I SAY THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

THAT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT. IF WE HAD MORE OFFICERS.

WE WILL GO OUT HERE FOR SO MANY HOURS AND WILL CONDUCT RADAR. MOST OF THE STOPS I MADE WAS FROM PASSING. IT WASN'T THE SPEEDING.

THE AVERAGE SPEED WAS USUALLY 40-43 MILES PER HOUR.

IT'S MAINLY THE PASSING. HOW DO YOU PREDICT THAT.

MORE OFFICERS TO GO OUT. AND WHAT THE INFLUX OF RESIDENTS FROM NORTHERN STATES THAT WEAR MOVING DOWN HERE WE ARE SEEING TRAFFIC CRASHES THERE AS WELL. WE'VE OFFERED FOLKS TO DISCOVERER INDIAN DRIVE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

NOW THEY'RE FINDING OUT THAT IT'S FASTER WAY TO GET FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH THAN U.S.-1 WHICH NOW HAS THE LIGHT SYSTEMS AND THEY ARE STILL E RADDIC AND IT'S CROWDED WITH FOLKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

AND THEY WANT TO MAKE IT ALMOST LIKE U.S.-1 WHERE THEY CAN PASS AROUND AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.

MUCH LIKE YOU HAVE DONE SUCCESSFULLY WITH BEN ANY IS I DON'T GO DOWN BEN ANY ANYMORE BECAUSE I EXPECT TO SEE YOU GUYS THERE. IF I'M GOING 21 YOU ARE GOING ONLY OVER. I KNOW THE RADAR STUFF YOU'VE GOT GOING ON AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

SO I STAY ON SEA WAY AND GO ALL THE WAY AND YOU ANSWERED HOW WITH WE GOT THAT DONE AND IT'S MORE OFFICERS. .

WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING ELSE AND WE WILL NOT STOP THE BEHAVIOR UNTIL YOU HAVE THE CONSEQUENCE.

YOU GUYS ARE THE CONSEQUENCE. THAT WAS A COUPLE MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. THEY WILL PULL ME OVER AND I DON'T NEED THAT TO HAPPEN. THE PASSING IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE DURING THE SPEED LIMIT. SO WE ARE --

>> AND ANY OF WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL TO FORM A TRAFFIC SQUAD. PEOPLE NOW A PERMANENT PERSON AND OPENING THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO DO THAT.

I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO OFFICER STOKE BECAUSE I WAS TRYING SO HARD TO REMEMBER HIS FIRST NAME. I REMEMBER A CALL FROM SHANE.

>> THAT'S OKAY. . >> SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

DISCUSSIONS? >>> ONE QUICK QUESTION.

THIS IS THE ONE HE LIKES TO HEAR.

SO CHIEF WHAT IS THAT NUMBER TO FORM A TRAFFIC SQUAD?

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>> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A STAFFING STUDY RIGHT NOW. IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND CALL VOLUME AND WHAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO. IT'S TAKING MUCH LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED. I JUST MET WITH A CAPTAIN FROM THE OTHER SIDE WHO IS WILLING TO ACCREDITASSIST US TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH THIS AT A QUICKER PACE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'VE GOT TO BE WORKING ON AND WE WILL WORK ON THE GRANT AND WE HAD THE 10 OFFICERS REDUCED TO FIVE. HOPING WE HAVE THE FUNDING AND GET INTO ALL TEN OF THOSE OFFICERS.

I CAME TO HIRE THE THREE FROM THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND SO ALL TOGETHER THAT WILL MAKE 13 AND THAT WILL BE AN ENHANCER TO US AND HAVE THE CONCERNS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE . THE FOCUS CAN MEET THE

COMPLAINTS AND DEAL WITH COST. >> CHIEF I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. . IT'S MISSING SOMETHING WHERE OFFICERS ARE IN WHERE THEY HAVE A CONSTANT INTERACTION WITH A PERSON THAT IS HAVING THIS CHALLENGE AND GET IN THE ARGUMENT AND THAT'S A FREQUENT CALL THAT COMES AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK TO THIS ONE PARTICULAR PLACE THAT I HAPPEN TO KNOW.

IF THOSE TAKING THOSE RESOURCE THAT CAN GET THE 1,500 NUMBER DOWN AND GET SOME OTHER COMMUNITY RESOURCES DOWN.

WE JUST NEED TO TALK INTO AND NEED TO BE REMINDED TO GET THEIR MEDS. WHEN YOU HAVE THEM AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON OPINION OR WHEN WE GET BACK.

IT IS ADDRESSED. WE ARE DELIVERING FROM 1982.

CITY SHOULD MAINTAIN STREET LIGHT, STREET SIGN T PAVEMENT MARKINGS. THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT DEDICATED FUNDING TO THE PROJECT TO THE CONSULTANT.

AS THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST MADE TO THIS COMMISSIONER IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO CONTRIBUTE FINANCIALLY.

>> I HAVE HEARD IT BUT NOT RECEIVED IT FROM THE REQUEST.

>> WE WILL HAVE THAT AS WE ARE A MAINTENANCE OF THAT AGREEMENT. AS THE CHAIR OF THE TPO DO WE NEED TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE TPO OR THE COUNTY COMMISSION LOOKING AT THAT BUDGET AND THE CITY COMMISSION LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET. OF COURSE WITH OUR REQUEST TODAY LOOKING BACK AT WHAT THE POLICE CHIEF IS TALKING ABOUT ADDING TO PERSONNEL TO WHAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S ALL A FACTOR AND PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

I AM JUST READY TO TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE HAVE EVERYTHING

BROUGHT TOGETHER. >> AT THIS POINT IT'S ALL ABOUT A CONCEPT. I THINK WHEN MR. WEST CAME UP HERE WE TALKED ABOUT A CONCEPT.

WE TALKED ABOUT A IDEA. IF WE GET GET SOME HARD TRUE

DATA WITH HARD TRUE NUMBERS. >> WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONTRIBUTE IN THIS AMOUNT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL

[02:20:03]

I'M SURE IT EXCEEDS MY APPROVAL AUTHORITY.

WE CONSIDER THE WORD MAINTENANCE.

WE ARE THE MAINTENANCE ARM OF THE AGREEMENT AS FAR AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE WILL DON'T DISCUSS THIS BUT I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO AND IT'S TIME NOW FOR ACTION TO OCCUR. SIMULCAST VERY HAPPY THE COMMISSIONERS AND A TEAM HAS BROUGHT THIS.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS MOVING. WE DO THAT BECAUSE THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE WE WANT TO EDUCATE THAT.

THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND THOSE DYNAMICS.

ONCE WE GET THAT WARNING, THAT'S THAT FREE SHOT AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP FROM A CITATION FROM THAT POINT.

EDUCATION IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.

THERE'S AN AREA THAT GETS MORE POLICE PRESENCE.

THEN THEY GET IT AND THEY SAY WAIT A MINUTE WE DIDN'T MEAN

US. >> I HAVE YOU GUYS HERE AND I KNOW YOUR OFFICERS HERE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EFFORTS THAT THAT WE'VE DONE WITH DRUNK DRIVERS AND DUI.

I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.

THE CITY SOMETIMES AND I KNOW IT'S OVERWHELMING.

I KNOW THAT GETTING THOSE FOLKS OFF THE ROAD AND TAKING THE LIVES AND THE PEOPLE AROUND AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER MEANING THAT I KNOW THAT WE ARE DYNAMIC IN THAT.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ESPECIALLY YOU TWO GENTLEMAN ARE IN THE CENTER OF THAT. I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

>> RIGHT, EXACTLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. >> ARE YOU READY TO MOVE ON?

>>> MIA FUND DISCUSSION. >>> THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR

[e. POW/MIA Flag Discussion]

>> MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

VY INCLUDED PLENTY OF BACK UP DOCUMENTATION IN MY PACKET THIS MORNING IN MY INTEREST OF TIME.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION OR ANYTHING I HAVE PROVIDEDLY

GLADLY PULL IT UP. >>> COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND TALK.

>> IT'S TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS FOR ISSUE OF POW/MIA AND ASSUME EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT STANDS FOR.

ONE OF THE WAYS WE DO IS BY RAISING THE POW/MIA FLAG AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO AS A DONATION WE WILL FLAG FOR THE CITY TO FLY OVER CITY HALL OR OVER GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE USE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

ANOTHER WAY WE CAN WIN TO THE SCHOOLS WITH THE VETERANS AN THE CHILDREN CAN TALK TO THE VETERANS AND THE VETERANS CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN THIS SCHOOL I BELIEVE IT WAS A 10TH GRADE CLASS.

ONE IF THEY KNEW WHAT POW/MIA STOOD FOR.

THERE WAS ONE CHILD IN THE CLASS THAT KNEW AND HE TOOK A GUESS AT IT. SO, I ANY WE FORWARD THE STATISTICS TO YOU. THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE 82,000 MEN AND WOMAN THAT ARE MISSING AND UNACCOUNTED FOR FROM WORLD WAR II UP UNTIL PRESENT.

IN ALL CONFLICTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, A MILITARY IS GETTING BETTER AT BRINGING EVERYBODY HOME AND

[02:25:01]

WE HAVE JUST AS MANY CARS BEHIND US WITH PEOPLE WEARING THESE VESTS. WE HAVE A CHAPLIN WHO WILL SAY A LITTLE PRAYER AND WE WILL LOWER OUR AMERICAN FLAG AND ATTACH TO THE POW FLAG AND RAISE IT BACK UP. .

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? I'M NERVOUS BECAUSE THIS IS A

FIRST TIME. >> YOU'RE DOING FINE.

>>> A QUICK QUESTION. SO I REMEMBER IT BEING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS LIKE FIVE OR SIX DAYS THAT WE AS A KHOUPB TRY SPECIFIED. I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY WHEN PRESIDENT CLINTON WAS IN OFFICE.

>> YES. >> CAN WE CHANGING THAT OR HAS THAT BEEN AMENDED. IT IS LEGAL TO FLY FLAG 24/7 UNDER THE AMERICAN FLAG TOUR ON ANOTHER TPO*L -- POLE BESIDES THE AMERICAN FLAG. AND WE HAVE OUR VETERAN'S PARK

>> WERE YOU THINKING OF MORE THAN ONE PLACE?

>>> LET ME SAY THAT ROLLING THUNDER CHAPTER 6 IS NEW HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WE ARE ONLY TWO YEARS OLD WITH THIS CHAPTER. WE HAVE AN OLD CHAPTER.

SO WEAR STILL GETTING -- WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED DOWN HERE. WE GOT ENOUGH MEMBERS SO TO* WHERE WE CAN GO OUT AND DO THESE THINGS WHEN WE GET THE AUTHORIZATION TO PUT A FLAG UP.

WE DONATE FIRST FLAG. SO IF I CAN ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS FOR YOU? >>> SO YOU DON'T LIKE -- DONATE THE FIRST FLAG. THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

THAT SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATE. >> JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW.

IT CURRENTLY FLAGS DAILY AT VETERANS MEMORIAL.

>> IT DOES. >> OKAY.

>> AND MADAME MAYOR SO IN OUR FLAG HERE AT CITY HALL.

WHETHER WE DESIGNATE FOR THE RESOLUTION OR LATER ON AS THE CITY COMMISSION. LET'S DO THIS.

>> DOES OUR FLAG FLY HERE 24/7?

THE AMERICAN FLAG. >> .

SO YOU NEVER TAKE IT. WE LOWER IT AT THE DIRECTION

OF THE GOVERNOR. >> THERE'S A LOT OF RULES AND REGULATIONS ABOUT FLAGS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS. IF THERE IS, WE NEED TO KNOW.

THE POW FLAG SHOULD BE SMALLER THAN THE AMERICAN FLAG BUT PROPORTIONATE TO THE SIZE NOT DWARF THAN THE AMERICAN FLAG BUT SMALLER THAN THE AMERICAN FLAG.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THAT I'M WARE OF.

-- AWARE OF. >> QUESTION SO RIGHT NOW DO WE MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS? I'M ASSUME IT'S LIGHTED.

4*67 R*RB RAO*EURBG. >> SO WE HAVE HOW OFTEN WOULD

[02:30:08]

FIRST FLAG IS FREE. I'M ASSUMING ADDITIONAL FLAGS WILL COST SOME MONEY. WE WOULD BRING A QUALITY FLAG THAT WILL STAND UP. THE FLAGS WE FLY OVER OUR HOUSE IS NOT THE GREATEST QUALITY AND IN THE FLORIDA WIND EVEN MY AMERICAN FLAGS THEY TEND TO SHRED.

I AM PROBABLY PUTTING A NEW FLAG UP.

THE COST OF YOUR FLAG WOULD BE FLYING.

>> HOW MUCH IS IT? >> THE COST OF THIS.

YOU WILL GIVE US THE FIRST ONE.

>> SO WE WILL HAVE TO REPLACE IT AT SOME POINT.

>> RIGHT. >> SO WHAT IS THAT COST?

>>> WELL THE FLAGS THAT WE TEND TO RAISE ON THE GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS ARE AROUND $37 A PIECE.

>> YOU ARE SURPRISED AT THAT NUMBER.

>> NO, I'M NOT SURPRISED. YOU ARE SURPRISED.

THANK YOU. IF WE CAN GET A FULL YEAR OUT OF ONE FLAG. WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO FLAGS A

YEAR. >> SOMEBODY HELP ME HERE.

>> AS NEEDED. >> IT JUST ALL DEANDS.

>> REPLACED AS NEEDED. >> .

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH FLAG

EVERY TWO YEARS THAT'S FINE. >> .

STORMS LIKE YESTERDAY WE HAVE A BRAND NEW FLAG UP.

SO THE WEATHER PLAY AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS LARGE PART OF IT. NUMBERS THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU IS PRETTY CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE ARE SEEING.

A GOOD QUALITY FLAG. DEPENDING ON THE SEASON.

DEPENDING ON HOW WE FAIR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WILL DETERMINE HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT.

>> WE HAVE TO DO A GOOD JOB. BUT WE HAVE A MUST BIC THAT

MONITORING THESE FLAGS. >> .

>> IF WE'VE PH*EUGSZ MISSED ONE.

>> . >> A BIG BUDGET CRISIS.

>> THANK YOU. . >>> I REALLY THINK, TOO.

I WOULD LIKE TO INVOLVE OUR YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL ON THIS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR HANDS AROUND AND IT HELPS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATING THE YOUTH AND GETTING THEM KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WE HAVE A YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING JUST TO INCLUDE THEM IN THIS PROCESS NOW AND IN THIS DECISION AND MAYBE LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER ELSE WE'VE COME UP WITH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE MILITARY AND THOSE THAT DON'T COME

BACK. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I HERD TODAY I BELIEVE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THE INSULATION OF THE FLAG AT CITY HALL. WE WILL MOVE TO OUR YOUTH COUNCIL AS TO WHERE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT WE REQUEST FLY

THIS FLAG. >> AND IN THE PROCESS MAYBE CAN COME TO THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND EDUCATE THEM.

WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD FOR THEM.

AFTER A MEETING AND GIVE THEM A CALL. .

>> GOOD LUCK IN STARTING YOUR CHAPTER AND THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >>>

[f. Discussion on Recreational Opportunities at Indian Hills Golf Course/Recreation Area.]

>> NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION ON RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AT INDIAN HILLS GOLF COURSE RECREATION AREA.

>> NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WE HAVE THE FRONT GUY.

[02:35:13]

>> ONE OUT OF PARK. I WILL LET THESE GENTLEMAN PRESENT. DANNY JUMPED UP HERE.

THE GENTLEMAN ON THE COUNTY'S TIME.

>> THE FUN THING. WE HAVE BEEN OFF AND WAITING

FOR THIS ONE THING. >>

>> I AM NOT SURE IF ANYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH PICKLE BALL.

>> I'M NOT OLD ENOUGH. >> IT'S THE LARGEST GROWING SPORT IN THE COUNTRY. IT' UP 23% FROM LAST YEAR ALONE.

THERE'S 4.2 MILLION PLAYER HAS PLAY NATIONWIDE. IT' ROUGHLY ON 50% OF A TENNIS COURT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SIZE.

IT'S FENCED IN. IT'S USUALLY 10 FEET HIGH ALL AROUND. IT HAS PADDING BACK AND IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE BASELINE AND SIDELINES.

IT'S A SMALL CONCISE AREA THAT'S PLAYED.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF PING-PONG AND PADDLE TENNIS IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT. HAS A UNIQUE SOUND AND IT'S LOUD. IT STARTED FOR A CONVERSATION FOR US HOW WE CAN RAISE MORE REVENUE AT THE GOLF COURSE.

AND HAVE A NEW AMENITY FOR US AND HAVE I WOULD.

WE COME UP WITH THE SIDE POINT HERE. THEY ARE WITH THIRD STREET THERE. SO THE PICKLE BALL IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY LEFT. AND THAT IS A CONCRETE PASS. .

AND THAT'S ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE. THAT IS A ROUND ABOUT THE TOP AND BOTTOM AND THAT'S THE DRIVING RANGE ITSELF.

ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? SO JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING THE FOUR PICKLE BALL COURTS.

IN THAT DIAGRAM THERE. IT'S A BIG OPEN GRASS AREA FAIRLY LEVEL. THIS WOULD HOUSE FOUR COURTS THERE. IT'S 30 BY 60.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING. I REACHED TO A GENTLEMAN I YOU FOR A LONG TIME. HE'S A TENNIS COURT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. HE TOLD ME THAT THIS HE CANNOT EVEN KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND OF PICKLE BALL.

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. VERANO WAS BUILDING THE LARGEST PRIVATE RESORT IN THE AREA.

SO WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HERE IS WE CAN FIT FOUR COURTS AND WOULD BE A FLAT AND TEND MATERIAL THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THERE IS JUST GRASS AT THIS POINT.

WE CAN USE THAT MATERIAL OUT ON RANGE.

WE HAVE A HUGE SAND AREA ON THE RANGE.

IT WOULDN'T BE A*EU ANYTHING IN THE WAY OF REMOVAL COST.

THE PROXIMATE COST. HE HASN'T BEEN ON SITE BUT WITH ME SAYING IT'S A FAIRLY LEVEL PIECE.

THE PROXIMATE COST TO CONSTRUCT THE FOUR COURTS WOULD BE $60,000. IT'S NOT A WHOLE EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR AND LITTLE MAINTENANCE.

A LITTLE TREES AROUND IT AND THE AREA WE NEED TO BLOW OFF WITH AN OAK TREE OR PALM TREES.

THE RESURFACING. THEY AVERAGE 5-7 YEARS BASED ON FLIGHT AND THAT COSTS IF YOU FIGURE SIX YEARS JUST FOR THE PARK THAT COSTS ROUGHLY $10,000.

EVERY SIX YEARS TO RESURFACE IS WHAT HE'S TELLING ME.

THERE'S LIGHTING THAT PATH I WOULD SAY INITIALLY PROBABLY NOT INITIALLY. MAYBE DOWN THE LINE AND STOP WITH THAT RESTROOM. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY FRESHEN THAT UP AND CLEAN UP. OBVIOUSLY IN THE OTHER

[02:40:14]

US. THE PICKLE BALL COURTS. >> DON'T LIKE THE MULTIPLE LINES THERE. THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME

POTENTIAL THERE. >> IT'S ALL OVER THE MAP.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OUTSIDE. IT ALMOST COINCIDES WITH WHAT WE DO WITH A GOLF OUTSIDE. . THAT'S STILL SOME AREAS THAT'S MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS BECAUSE OF WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WOULD BE. I KNOW THE RESURFACING COST IS SET I THINK. AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION HOW IT WOULD FIT ON THAT SITE AND HOW ANOTHER COMPANY WOULD THINK OF IT. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

IMPACT FEES THAT ARE ON THE ACCOUNT AND THIS SON STAND BY.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY ENHANCE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECREATION BUT LOOKING AT THAT PARKING AREA I THINK RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A STABILIZE PARKING AREA FOR THE DRIVING RANGE AREA. THAT IS THAT TRAVEL SECTION THAT'S THERE. YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO PULL IN THERE AND BE THE PICKLE BALL AS YOU FACE THE POND BETWEEN 9:00 AND 10:00 THERE AND TO THE RIGHT YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY ACCESS THE GOLF SHOP.

MOBILIZATION IS A BIG PART OF >> THERE'S A POND RIGHT THERE TO THE EAST. SO WE'VE GOT A GOOD POSITIVE FALL FOR DRAINAGE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND THE RESTROOMS. THEY ARE ON THAT MUSICAL NOTE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST SOME FORM OF A PERFORM ARTS JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET AN IDEA WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. JUST TO GETTING ATIVETY THERE.

I KEEP THINKING OF FOLKS THAT HALF THE FAMILY WOULD GO PLAY GOLF AND THE OTHER WOULD BE IN THE PICKLE BALL.

FOR ONCE MULTIPLE USES WORKS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND ESPECIALLY IF WE DEVELOP A CLUBHOUSE SOME DAY AND ALL THE

THINGS THAT GO ON. >> THAT'S KIND OF THE CON DUE WIT TO STARTING THIS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A SITE PLAN. WHERE IT WOULD FIT.

>> IT'S ALMOST AFTER THE FACT. >> QUICK QUESTION.

[02:45:01]

>> AND I'M GLAD THAT I REMEMBER BRINGING THIS UP AS A SUGGESTION THEY THINK I WILL TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS HAPPEN TO THIS. THIS WILL TALK EXPANSION A LITTLE BIT AND IF WE NEEDED TO SQUEEZE IN TWO MORE COURTS CAN WE IN THIS AREA. THIS IS IT.

THAT'S THE DRIVING RANGE. THINK BIGGEST DRIVERS NOW TEND -- THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD MAKE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR TOURNAMENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS CAN MAYBE LOOK

AT THAT AS WELL. >> I LIKE THAT.

>> THE WAY IT STANDS NOW. THAT MARKING AREA.

YES IT IS AND WHETHER WE KEPT IT WITH A CONCRETE SCREENING.

MY FEAR IS THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE A $300,000 PARKING LOT.

LY WAKE UP WITH THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IF WE ENLARGED THAT AREA TO POST OUT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

I THINK THEY ARE FINE WITH THAT.

THEY LOOK MORE WITH THE QUALITY OF THE GOLF COURSE ABOUT TWHAEU -- WHAT THEY DO WITH A $300,000 PARKING LOT.

THIS IS A WHRAOEUD POPULAR -- THIS IS A WIDELY POPULAR SPORT. IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT PARKING STRUCTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH PARKING STRUCTURE

ON THAT. >> IT'S STILL OPTIMALLY.

THAT'S NOT PART OF THE TOURNAMENT IN PLAY.

AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN FORT PIERCE NOW THAT HAS PICKLE BALL. SO JUST THE SHEER EXCITEMENT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO TRY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER. I WILL LEAVE THAT.

THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH NOW.

THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL AREA. THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN.

I THESE WILL ALLOW TO HAVE THE TOURNAMENTS.

TO HAVE THE EVENTS AND TO HAVE THE SMALLER CLUBHOUSE AND THE MORE MODERNIZED CAR AND MORE FUNCTIONAL FOR THIS AREA AND TO INCLUDE PICKLE BALL. I BELIEVE THE ACTIVITY LEVEL.

ER. >> THANK YOU.

>>> ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

BETWEEN IF CURRENT GOLF SHOP AND THE CURRENT CLUBHOUSE.

>> I CAN PROBABLY ACCOMMODATE ROUGHLY IF WE CHANGING IT A LITTLE TINY BIT. THAT'S PROBABLY --

>> . THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THEY CLARIFIED ABOUT TENNIS COURTS.

IN MY HEAD WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE BEING USED THAT MUCH. THAT DOESN'T WORK APPARENTLY.

[02:50:04]

>> YEAH. >> THEY NEED TO PLAY SOMEWHERE. I THINK THAT -- I THINK SOMEONE WHO IS A DEDICATED PICKLE BALLPLAYER LIKES TO PLAY ON PICKLE BALL COURTS RATHER THAN A COMBINATION.

>> MADAME MAYOR. >> THIS HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR A FEW YEARS NOW TO RETRO FIT JC PARK TO HAVE BOTH.

JC PARK WAS SLATED LAST YEAR AND WE WERE FACE WITH A PANDEMIC. I THINK WHAT DANNY IS PROPOSING HERE WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE BOTH OF THE PARKS WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO BE DUAL PURPOSE AND WITH DUAL PURPOSE AS YOU STATED TENNIS PARKS ARE NOT BEING USED UNTIL YOU DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THEM AND EVERYONE THAT

PLAYS GOT TO COME OUT. . >> WE WILL DO WITH THE PARKS.

WE WILL DO IT EVENTUALLY. THAT WILL BE FOR THE RECREATIONAL PLAYER. THAT WILL BE FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GO OUT AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.

WITH THAT ANY TIME WE HAVE A DUAL PURPOSE COURT LIKE THAT

YOU WILL UPSET ON BOTH SIDES. >> YOU CHANGED IT OUT.

I LOVE THE CONCEPT. ONCE IT'S THERE.

YOU WILL CREATE THAT DEMAND. AND SIMILAR TO OUR PROPOSAL EARLIER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED ARE OTHER AOEU

ITEMS. >> WE TALK ABOUT EXPANSION.

WE HOPE WE HAVE A DEMAND FOR DOING THIS.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PINE WOOD PARK.

IT'S LESS THAN PROBABLY. I KNOW IT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION.

>> THERE'S TENNIS COURTS. THEY ARE NOT USED AS TENNIS COURTS SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPANSION THERE. IT'S EASILY A STONE'S THROW AWAY. IT'S PROBABLY IN FRONT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OWN BID THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THAT MIGHT BE MORE FOR PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE. .

THAT'S --. >> I TALKED ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT IDEA. MY POINT IS DON'T JUMP OUT OF OUR BOX. THERE'S A LOT OF CHANCES FOR

EXPANSE. >> MAYBE MOVING THAT TO THE FINAL AREA TO ENHANCE WHAT YOU'VE GOT GOING HERE.

>> YEAH, GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> WE APPRECIATE IT. >> GO BACK TO THOSE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PADDLE.

>> IS THE NET THE SAME HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING? I THINK IT'S A LITTLE SHORTER THE PICKLE BALL NET.

>> IT'S SHOW AND TELL. THE NEXT EXCITING PHASE.

>> ALL RIGHT. HE'S JUST ABOUT TO INTERRUPT

YOU. >> THERE'S AN INTEREST IN IT.

OKAY, INTERESTING. COME OVER HERE.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S AWESOME.

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>> THE WAY YOU WOULD MAKE THE REVENUE ON THAT.

>> THE CITY COULD CHARGE A RENTAL FEE TO DETERMINE.

ALSO BRING IN HEADS ON THIS PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN.

GREAT PARTNERSHIPS FROM SAILFISH, INDIAN RIVER, SUMMER CREST WINERY. HE IS A SMALL GOLF COURSE THERE.HE SPONSOR SOME OF OUR TOURNAMENTS.

THE DONATED SHIRTS AND PLAYER STUFF.

>> TALK TO ME, THE ONE DAY, TODAY.

HOW ARE YOU TOURNAMENTS DONE NOW,

>> MOST OF THEM THE ONES WE HOST OUR ONE DAY.

IT MAY BE THE DAY BEFORE THERE WILL BE A DOUBLES TOURNAMENT TO KIND OF KICK THINGS OFF WITH SOME OF THE BIGGER COURSES WE WILL DO A TWO DAY TOURNAMENT. DEPENDS ON THE TIER AND THE PGA.F IT'S A, B OR C TIER TWO SOMETIMES THE B AND THEY THE PROS ARE TWO DAY TOURNAMENTS.

MOST OF THE TOURNAMENTS THAT WE HOST OUR TIER C.

>> WITH THE DESIGN OF 18 HOLES, COULD WE QUALIFY THAT AS A TOP-TIER? I'M THINKING TWO DAYS, NATIONAL

TELEVISION, >> NOT ON THIS COURSE BECAUSE THEY WANT THE LONGER 800 POINT HOLES.

>> OKAY. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM TO PUT THAT KIND OF COURSE IN THERE.

WE CAN FIT 18 IN AND THE MINIMAL THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE A COURSE FOR EACH HOLE FROM THE TEA PAD TO BE ABOUT 200, 250 FEET. 300 IS KIND OF AVERAGE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF ROOM FOR 100 FOOT HOLE OR 500 FOR HELP. WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD BRING THE EIGHT-YEAR PRO PLAYERS IN FOR THAT TYPE OF COURSE.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE. WE STILL DO IT COULD BE OR C TIER. ONE OR TWO ROUNDS YOUR CLOSE ENOUGH TO DOWNTOWN AND TRY PEOPLE THERE FOR LUNCH.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING YOU. >> YOU ENTERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS. THE IDEA THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS THAT ERIC WAS TALKING ABOUT, THEM BEING A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITHIN THE CITY. REMEMBER, THIS IS ALSO THE PROPERTY WHERE OUR ANIMAL SHELTER IS TO MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF A FUNCTION AND SOME AWARENESS CAMPAIGN BETWEEN

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COME TO THIS PARK. >> AND NOT TOO LONG FROM NOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT VIA PATHWAY ALL THE WAY TO SAVANNAH CAMPGROUNDS. WANT TO GET ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS. TALKED ABOUT THAT.

>> RIGHT. >> IS A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

IT WILL HAPPEN ONE DAY. >> IT IS ON THE PLAN.

>> ON THE PLAN. >> I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA.

I'M APPRECIATIVE. ERIC, A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION HAVE YOU HAD WITH CHARLOTTE OR THE TDC AND

TALKING ABOUT THAT? >> I HAVE.

THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON. I AM FAIRLY NEW ON THE BOARD OF THE CLUB, ABOUT A YEAR NOW. I AM TRYING TO GET THE CLUB TO DO BETTER TRACK OF DOING THE DATA.

PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA. SO WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SPORTS COMMISSION TO TRY TO GET SOME SPONSORSHIP AS WELL.

OFFER MORE PRIZE MONEY TO GET MORE BIGGER PROS HERE.

I WAS TALKING TO TOURISM OFFICE THERE IS THE .33 PERCENT OF ONE CENT THAT IS DEDICATED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS NORTH OF MIDWAY ROAD. I THINK THIS WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT WITH THE CITY WILLING TO ALLOW THE COURSE IN THERE, DO A JOINT APPLICATION WITH THE DISC OFF CLUB AND THE CITY TO THE TDC TO SAY FOR 30,000, THINKERS OVER $1 MILLION SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW. THAT IS NOT BEEN ALLOCATED.

IF WE ASK FOR 30 OR 40 OR WHATEVER.

>> LOOKING FOR SOME MONEY FROM THE TDC.

WE ARE LOOKING. [LAUGHTER]

>> THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY I THINK FOR US, THE NONPROFIT DISC GOLF CLUB IN THE CITY TO ASK FOR A PORTION TO HELP GET THIS BILL WITH PROPER SIGNAGE AND PROPER KEYPADS AND PGA

REGULATED BASKETS. >> I THINK THAT'S THE BIG THING. HOW SMALL OR BIG YOU WANT TO MAKE IT? THAT IS UP TO US AND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME PARTNERS MAYBE GOES BACK TO MST YOU OPPORTUNITIES IN ADDITION TO THE TDC.

THE TDC, COMMISSIONER YOU'RE SITTING ON THAT BOARD RIGHT

NOW. >> COMING UP.

>> THEY HAVE MONEY HIDDEN AWAY SO WE ARE, I THINK OVERALL THIS PROJECT COULD COST AS LITTLE AS WHAT I THINK WE TALK ABOUT

25-30. >> 25 OR 30.

>> EVEN $40,000. >> AT THE MOST I WOULD THINK.

>> IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO PULL A LITTLE OUT OF THE COUNT OR AT LEAST REQUESTED.

AND GET THIS GOING. THEN START ALLOWING THE GROUP TO GO FORTH WITH THE COMMISSION, THE SPORTS COMMISSION I'M TALKING ABOUT AND ADVERTISE AND CAMPAIGNING FOR TOURNAMENTS WITHIN OUR COUNTY AND WITHIN OUR CITY.

I THINK IT IS A WIN-WIN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. MR. REELS ANYTHING YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT WITH OUR GUYS OR GALS ON LAWNMOWERS?

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, UNFORTUNATELY MAINTENANCE WISE NOT REALLY ANY CONCERNS THERE.

THIS AREA IS CURRENTLY MAINTAINED BY CONTRACTOR.

IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA.

WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE FOOT TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SAVANNAH ROAD. A LOT MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE ALREADY. THEY'RE UTILIZING THE TRAIL AND EXERCISING. IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

>> I GO BACK TO THE DAYS OF WHEN, JUST REMIND ME I DON'T KNOW WHY. REMEMBER AROUND LONGWOOD COMPLEX, WHERE ALL THE EXERCISE STATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW FOR SOME OF YOU THAT WERE NOT AROUND BUT ALL THE WAY DOWN VIRGINIA, ALL THE WAY DOWN 2030 GO DOWN QUINCY IN THE WORKOUT STATION. ALL THE WAY AROUND LONGWOOD.

THEY LAST AND THEN THEY RUN INTO THE GROUND.

THEY ARE WOODEN PULL-UP BARS, SET UP STATIONS.

YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES.UT THERE ARE DIFFERENT STATION. KIND OF ONE OF THOSE.

GET OUT AND ENJOY THE OPEN AIR AND GET SOME EXERCISE.

>> I'M SURE THIS WAS DISCUSSED BUT MAYBE MR. REELS CAN JUMP IN ON THIS. AGAIN WE START TALKING ABOUT TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF. TO TALK ABOUT PARKING.

OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC WORKS THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, CAN YOU IDENTIFY ENOUGH PARKING THAT COULD HELP IN A TOURNAMENT

SITUATION? >> AGAIN, TOURNAMENT SIZE MAYBE

ABOUT 80 PLAYERS. >> LET ME JUMP IN WHILE MIKE IS LOOKING AT THIS. THE ANSWER IS NO.

IF WE ARE GOING TO UPPER TOURNAMENTS THAT ATTRACT AUDIENCES FROM A REGIONAL, I GUESS, PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED TO ADDRESS PARKING.CURRENTLY WE HAVE A LITTLE WORKING AREA AND THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS A VISION TO BE A PASSIVE PARK.

BUT NOW WE HAVE COMPETING USES. WHERE THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. WE HAVE UTILITIES PORTION RIGHT

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WHERE THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY.

THEY HAVE YOUR OWN PARKING NEEDS.

IF WE ARE TRULY GOING TO HAVE THIS AS A DESTINATION FOR EVENTS THEN WE NEED TO CREATE AND BUILD PARKING.

WE HAVE STABILIZED LIKE MILLING PARKING IN THE AREA.

IT IS NOT UP TO PAR. AND ALSO WE HAVE A STABILIZED LIME ROCK BASE AREA WE KEEP SOME OF OUR SOLID WASTE REFUGE COLLECTION VEHICLES. IF WE WILL HAVE THIS AS A DESTINATION THEN PARKING MUST BE PART OF THAT DESIGN.

>> ISN'T THAT WHERE THE CURSOR IS?

>> WELL BACK TO WHERE YOU HAVE THE CURSOR.

DOWN. >> DOWN.

>> EMPLOYEE PARKING? >> THAT IS EMPLOYEE PARKING, STABILIZED MILLING IS IN BAD CONDITION.

>> IT JUST BECAME MILLING? IT WAS NOT ASPHALT PARKING THAT

BECAME MILLING? >> I WOULD SAY.

[LAUGHTER] >> IT IS NOT GOOD, SIR.

[LAUGHTER] >> THE THING ABOUT IT IS THIS IS LANDLOCKED HERE. THE RAILROAD ON ONE SIDE, ON A SAND RIDGE. WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ON ONE SIDE.

WE HAVE GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS ON THE OTHER.

I KNOW WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND EXPANDING IT AND TRYING TO TAKE IT ALL IN AS FAR AS HOW THIS WILL BE USED AS AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, PARKING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED. NEEDS TO GO ON OUR RADAR.

>> YES. >> US BE PART OF IT.

THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY AND I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TUNE, BUT YOU ALLUDED TO ERIC WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THIRD OF THE FIFTH THAT COMES NORTH.

THAT'S ON THE AGENDA THIS WEEK. IT IS INTERESTING, MAYBE IT'S JUST ME BEING PARANOID ON A NEW COMMITTEE, BUT I HAVE A PORT ST. LUCIE COUNCILWOMAN BRINGING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

>> THE MAYOR DID IT TWO YEARS AGO.

>> YES HE DID. >> IT IS AN OLD ISSUE.

>> I KNOW I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

>> I WAS SAYING TO MYSELF IS COUPLE TO NO WE HAVE THESE NEEDS GOING FORWARD. I DO NOT KNOW I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO BATTLE ON MY FIRST MEETING.

BUT I AM WILLING TO DO SO. IT IS IMPORTANT TO FORT PIERCE AND THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUR FAIR SHARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

DEFINITELY THIS IS A RESOURCE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY.

>> HISTORY WISE BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN THAT WAS ADDED.

THAT .33 PERCENT WAS SET ASIDE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS NORTH OF MIDWAY ROME BECAUSE OF THE TIME ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE BOARD FELT LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE SALES TAX OR THE BED TAX GOES TO MET STADIUM IN THOSE FACILITIES.

HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A FUND TO GENERATE CAPITAL TOURISM PROJECTS NORTH OF MIDWAY ROAD AND OF THE CITY.

AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ALLUDED TO THE MAYOR PORT ST. LUCIE WAS SAYING IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THAT.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THAT MONEY AS WELL.

AT THE BOARD AT THE TIME THE COUNTY COMMISSION SEND KNOW WE STILL LIKE THAT LANGUAGE THE WAY IT IS.

IT IS SET FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS NORTH OF MIDWAY ROAD.

>> COMING BACK UP. >> I KNOW.

>> HERE WE GO. >> YES.

SO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I DON'T THINK, DOES THIS INTERFERE WITH THE PASSIVE USE, SUMMIT IS NOT PLAYING DISC

GOLF? >> THEY CAN STILL WALK AROUND IT. SOME OF THE TEA PADS COME CLOSE BUT WE HAVE TWO WALKING PATH AND THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH SOME EXISTING COURSES LIKE ROTARY PARK.

THERE IS A WALKING PATH AROUND THE DISC GOLF COURSE AND SAME THING WITH LIQUID PART. DISC GOLFERS KNOW BEFORE YOU

THROW YOU LET THE PEOPLE GO BY. >> YOU WAIT LIKE BOWLING OR SOMETHING. HOW HEFTY IS THE DISC?

>> LIKE A REGULAR FRISBEE. SOME ARE LITTLE HEAVIER FOR DRIVING. REGULAR FRISBEE.

>> OKAY. >> WENT OUT TO THE CHEAP REAL QUICK IF YOU WANT ME TO. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'S IN THE JEEP ALL THE TIME.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN OF COURSE MAY POP UP.

[LAUGHTER] >> I HEAR WE ARE FOR MOVING AHEAD. AND SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING

IT TO OUR ATTENTION. >> THE CLUB CAN DO TO HELP, WE NEED TO DO FUNDRAISING TO RAISE MONEY OR HELP WITH APPLICATION TO THE COUNTY WHERE WILLING TO DO IT.

>> YEAH. >> QUICK QUESTION.

THE INVESTMENT ON THIS IS RELATIVELY MINIMAL AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED. I DON'T KNOW, AS A FUTURE GOING FORWARD MR. REELS WE HAVE SOME OTHER CITY ASSETS THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COURSE BUT INTRODUCE THIS TO NEIGHBORHOODS I'M THINKING THE PARK OUT THERE, I'M THINKING OF FINN,

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IT MAY BE A GREAT WEIGHT TOO BECAUSE THOSE BASKETS THAT YOU THROW INTO THE CHAIN THEY CAN BE SOMEWHAT DECORATIVE, COULDN'T THEY? AS FAR AS AN ATTRACTION.

>> SOME COURSES HAVE BEEN ELEVATED BASKETS.

SOME HAVE DONE HANGING BASKETS FROM TREES TO MIX IT UP.

WE CAN DECORATE IT HOWEVER WE WANT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT ALIVE BECAUSE TO MOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND BRING THIS AND INTRODUCE KIDS THAT MAY LIKE THE CHALLENGE BUT GOLF IS NOT THE THING.

WE WILL HAVE A GOLF COURSE COMING INTO THE AREA PRETTY SOON. BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT SKILL AND IT IS NOT AS TOUGH AS GOLF. GOLF CAN BE PRETTY HARD ON A PERSON IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE KEEP THAT IN MIND AND CHALLENGE YOU PTOO TO THINK ABOUT WORKING WIT SOME OF THE YOUTH INTRODUCED THEM TO THIS BECAUSE IT IS FAST-GROWING.

>> LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE NOT NAILED DOWN THE DATE YET BUT WE MADE THE END ROAD WITH PORT ST. LOUIS POLICE BECAUSE HER ABILITIES AT ROTARY PARK WHERE WE PLAY EVERY SUNDAY.

WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT MORE. >> YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR AN APARTMENT THEY WERE HERE FOR THAT.

YOU PUT A COUPLE PRACTICE AREAS JUST BEHIND THAT JUST TO GET

KIDS FAMILIAR WITH IT. >> GOOD ONE COMMISSIONER IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY BUT SHARED A PLAZA PARK.

THERE'S A PRESERVE AREA TO THE WEST.

AN ENTIRE PRESERVE. >> THAT IS RIGHT.

>> THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT. >> A BIG GRASSY AREA BEHIND

TOO. >> ABSOLUTELY COULD A LOT OF

DIFFERENT AREAS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT. >>.

[INDISCERNABLE] >> THIS IS ALL FUN.

[LAUGHTER] >> YOU KNOW UCF THEY HAD DISC GOLF FOREVER RIGHT OUT FRONT. DID YOU NOTICE?

>> I REMEMBER OUT THE FRONT. >> I WAS LIKE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM. [LAUGHTER]

>> THE CHAMPIONSHIPS LAST. [INDISCERNABLE] THEY HAVE

COLLEGE DISC GOLF. >> TAKE YOUR.

>> THANK YOU ERIC. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS A DRINKING GAME. [LAUGHTER]

>> PICKLE BALL AND DISC GOLF, BOTH OF THEM.

[g. Keep Fort Pierce Beautiful Advisory Board Discussion]

>> SHALL WE MOVE ON? >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PIERCED BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD DISCUSSION.

>> ALL RIGHT FOLKS I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO MR. REELS.

>> MR. REELS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> IS IN THE AFTERNOON? >> YES.

[LAUGHTER] >> IF YOU DON'T MIND I WILL ASK MS. SCOTT TO JOIN ME FOR A BRIEF DISCUSSION AND KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL. LIKE OUR PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS DONE GREAT THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND AS WE KNOW RECENTLY OUR PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PARKING COMMITTEE HAVE UNDERGONE SOME CHANGES AND MAKEUP AND HOW FORMAL WE HAVE MADE THOSE COMMITTEES.

I WANT TO GET BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS MORNING SO WE CAN DISCUSS OUR KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD AND THE MAKEUP OF THAT BOARD. BEFORE DOING SO I ASKED HER TO JOIN HIM SO WE CAN SEE HOW THE BOARD CAME ABOUT AND ORGANIZING THE BOARD AND PUTTING US IN A POSITION FOR SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> MISS SCOTT. P>> YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THE KEY PORT FEARS, DO NOT KNOW YOU HAD DISPLAYED AND DID NOT KNOW THE EXACT YEAR BUT IT WAS CREATED SO THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COULD APPLY FOR FDOT FUNDS SO IT CAN FUND THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP. WITH THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. SO THIS BOARD WAS CREATED TO FACILITATE THAT. THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY FROM FDOT IS $16,000.

THIS YEAR IT HAS GONE DOWN $1000 TO 15,000.

WHAT WE PAY FOR WITH THAT IS OUR FORCE OR THE DIRECTOR TO GO TO A CONFERENCE, ADVERTISING IN THE TUNE OF ABOUT $2000 AND ABOUT 10-$11,000 OF TREES AND SWAG AND SUPPLIES FOR THE EVENT. AGAIN, IT WAS CREATED SO WE COULD APPLY FOR FUNDS FROM FDOT.

AND RESEARCH. >> I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

GOOD TO KNOW. >> SO, YOU'RE PROPOSING - - WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO DISBAND THE 501(C)(3) RIGHT OR

SEPARATE? >> I WILL LET YOU TALK.

>> TODAY WE ARE MAINLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT - -

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>> WERE TALKING. >> A.

>> TODAY WOMEN HERE, NOT LOOKING TO DISBAND KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT WE DO WANT TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT MAKEUP OF THE ADVISORY BOARD.

BACK IN 2005 WHEN IT WAS FORMALIZED TO PUT US IN A POSITION FOR THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THERE WERE 11 MEMBERS. THEY WERE RECOMMENDED BY COMMUNITY SERVICE STAFF TO INCLUDE PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ONE EMPLOYEE OF COKE.

RESIDENTS IN FORT PIERCE THE EMPLOYEE AND ONE BUSINESS OWNER. THAT AGAIN CHANGED IN 2006 WHERE THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD WAS REDUCED.

FROM 11 DOWN TO NINE. IN 2008 IT CAME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION AGAIN TO BE REVISED ONCE AGAIN TO US MOST CURRENT STATE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD STILL REMAINING NINE BROUGHT THE EMPLOYEES BACK TO THREE AND ALLOWED FOR ONE RESIDENT OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

AS TO LOOK FOR ONE BUSINESS OWNER AND ONE FORT PIERCE RESIDENT SPECIALIZING IN HORTICULTURE.

THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION IS AS WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THERE IS NO CITY EMPLOYEE SITTING ON THAT COMMITTEE. I SIT THERE TO ASSIST BUT I HAVE NO PART OF ANY VOTE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

OUR CURRENT COMPOSITION OF THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL BOARD ALLOWS FOR MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF TO SIT ON THAT BOARD.

I DID REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE.

THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE, THERE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS COMPOSED VERY SIMILARLY TO FORT PIERCE.

THERE'S CALLS FOR TWO MEMBERS OF THEIR STAFF TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE. CURRENTLY THE CURRENT MAKEUP IS THREE AND THEY HAVE ONE POLICE OFFICER THAT ALSO SERVES.

AND ALL SIX ARE RESIDENTS. I CREATED A DRAFT OF WHAT THIS POTENTIALLY COULD LOOK AT UTILIZING LANGUAGE THAT WE CREATED THE PARKS ADVISORY WITH WITH IT BEING COMMISSION APPOINTED MEMBERS. QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IS AS WRITTEN IT CALLS FOR MUST BE A CITY RESIDENT TO BE A MEMBER AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE A MEMBER OF OUR KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD THAT DOES NOT RESIDE IN THE CITY, JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. I WOULD LIKE FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU IN WHICH DIRECTION YOU WANT US TO TAKE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT AND BE HONEST WITH YOU THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT ARE UNIQUE AND MAKEUP IN MY MIND BECAUSE OF THE EXPANSIVENESS OF THE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE VOLUNTEERISM THAT HAPPENS.

TYPICALLY I'M ALWAYS ABOUT BEING A RESIDENT TO BE ON THE BOARD. THIS ONE IS KNOWING THE HISTORY, KNOWING HOW IT HAS CHANGED, KNOWING WHY IT WAS CREATED THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I LIKE.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE, ACTUALLY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS. I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POINT ONE FOR COMMISSIONER IS A ST. LOUIS SEE COUNTY RESIDENT.

THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE. NOT JUST A CITY RESIDENT.

YOU MUST BELIEVE WAY BECAUSE OUR PROJECTS SHOULD ALWAYS BE FOCUSED IN AND WILL ALWAYS BE FOCUSED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

HOWEVER AS MR. REELS JUST TALKED ABOUT WE DO HAVE A

COUNTY RESIDENT THAT IS HUGE. >> HUGE.

>> IN THIS PART OF THE PROCESS. HE JUST GIVES TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN. SO THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT MAKEUP.T IS ABOUT GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ABOUT THE VOLUNTEERISM ASPECT.

I AM GOOD WITH EACH OF US HAVING AN APPOINTEE AS A COUNTY RESIDENT. WE PICK SOMEBODY THAT JUST WANTS TO COME SERVE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, SO BE IT.

PMY GOSH. THEY WANT TO BE HERE, MAYBE THE END UP BUYING A HOUSE HERE. YAY TEAM.

>> BEING AN ANNEX. >> RIGHT.

>> I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, I WAS GOING BACK OR KEEPING THE NUMBER NINE. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY TO KEEP THE NUMBER NINE. I KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

TWO AT-LARGE IS A GOOD IDEA. E ALWAYS HAVE THAT AT LARGE.

THEN TWO OF STAFF. THAT GIVES US NINE.

FIVE, TWO AND TWO. THAT ARE MY QUICK NOTES AND WHAT I CAME UP WITH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A DISCUSSION POINT BUT I THINK IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND COVERED A LOT OF AREAS. >> COMMISSIONER.>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE APPOINTMENT FROM THE COMMISSION BEING COUNTYWIDE. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE NOT IN FORT PIERCE THAT GREW UP IN FORT PIERCE THAT WENT TO

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AND AS A COMMISSIONER WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SCREEN THAT WITH OUR APPOINTMENT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE BEST PEOPLE FOR THAT BOARD APPOINTMENT. I TOTALLY AGREE.

AS YOU SAY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE ACTUALLY NEED PEOPLE WHO HAVE CERTAIN EXPERTISE TO DO THIS JOB. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WE CANNOT KEEP MENTIONING THIS COMMITTEE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S WOVEN INTO MOST EVERYTHING WE DO IN THE CITY.

>> ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RECONSTITUTING IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT GIVING IT A NEW TASK IN ADDITION TO WHAT IT DOES AND THAT NEW TASK WAS TO KIND OF BUILD NEIGHBORHOODS AND IS THAT IN YOUR MISSION STATEMENT? I DON'T KNOW.

AND SO WE SAW, AT LEAST AND I MEET WITH THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE I HAVE DONE IT EVER SINCE I WAS ELECTED MAYOR.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I FEEL ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE IS THIS IS A WORKING COMMITTEE. IT IS A COMMITTEE THAT NOT ONLY HAS NOT DONE ALL THAT MUCH WITH POLICY UP UNTIL NOW BUT IT DEALS WITH A LOT OF HARD WORK. JUST REAL HARD WORK.

IN MY OPINION AND NEEDS PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO BE THE LEADERS TO DO THAT HARD WORK. AND ALSO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THEIR SO MANY PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WHO SAY THEY ARE FROM FORT PIERCE WHO LOVE THE FORT, WHO POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ARE ALL PART AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE JURISDICTION.

MANY OF THEM HAVE TOLD ME I VOTED FOR YOU WHICH I NEVER CORRECTED THEM. OF COURSE THEY THINK THEY DID RIGHT. [LAUGHTER].

THEY HAD A MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT MORE VOTES.

I DON'T KNOW. THERE IS THAT.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN LAKEWOOD PARK HAVE FORT PIERCE ADDRESSES, RIGHT? THERE IS THAT IDENTIFICATION WITH FORT PIERCE THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OPTION MYSELF.

AND ALSO THERE IS AN ARBOR DAY OR ARBOR BOARD, WHAT IS IT? TREE BOARD RIGHT. HOW DOES THAT FIT IN? HOW IS THAT FITTING IN WITH THIS MR. REELS?

>> I BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WHETHER YOU ARE ABLE TO ASSIST. >> YOU KIND OF MERGE THEM

TOGETHER IN A SENSE. >> ALREADY.

>> IT STILL REMAINS THE TREE BOARD BUT WE HAVE THEM SITS, IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE JUST FEWER OF THEM AND THEY SAID AS

MEMBERS. >> IF I REMEMBER IT'S SHIRLEY AND JANIE, THAT RIGHT. AS MY MEMORY.

>> THEIR MEMBERS. >> THEY ARE THE TREE BOARD, RIGHT. SO THEY MEET WITH THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL AND QUICK SERVE ON BOTH.

>> SERVE ON BOTH. >> THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP THEM FROM HAVING TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS ABOUT EXACTLY THE SAME

THING. >> YES FOLKS WERE REQUIRED TO THE TREE BOARD IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TREE CITY.

>> THAT IS IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT. AND WITH THAT STILL CONTINUED TO BE A PART OF THIS DIRECT DO YOU ENVISION THAT, IS THAT YOUR

RECOMMENDATION, >> RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THEY STILL COULD MEET TOGETHER. AS LINDA HAS INDICATED, THEY CANNOT BE THE SAME. SELECT TO HAVE A TREE BOARD.

>> RIGHT. >> TO WHAT I AM THINKING OF IS THAT AT TWO MORE TO IT? TWO MORE TO THE COMMITTEE?

>> CAN ASK A QUESTION? >> SURE.

>> WHY COULDN'T THEY BE ONE IN THE SAME? WHY CAN'T THE TREE BOARD, WHY CAN'T WE EXPAND THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE TREE BOARD AND CALL IT THE TREE BOARD THAT IS ALSO THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL BOARD.

>> YES SIR. >> WE DO THAT WITH OTHER BOARDS AS WELL. I BELIEVE THERE'S A STAFF REPRESENTATIVE THAT SITS WITH THE COMMUNITY WIDE COUNCIL ALSO WAS THE BROWN FIELD COALITION GROUP AT ONE POINT.

>> ALSO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY.

>> EXACTLY. >> RIGHT.

>> THEY COULD HAVE DIFFERENT, YOU ARE THE SBR A BOARD.

[LAUGHTER] >> OER.

THE PLANNING BOARD IS ALSO THE LPA.

>> THEY MEET AND CONVENE. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY WE SHOULD ADOPT THIS AS A STOOL RESPONSIBILITY WOULD TAKE YOU FIVE APPOINTEE MEMBERS TO CREATE A PSEUDO-EXECUTIVE BOARD THAT MEETS AS A TREE BOARD. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> WHATEVER. I WOULD LIKE THEM ALL TO BE.CER

>> I WANT TO JUST WEIGH IN ON THE COMMENTS.

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I THINK THE FLEXIBILITY THERE WOULD BE GOOD.

I GUESS MY CONCERN WAS WE TOOK OFF THE BUSINESS OWNER, RIGHT? THE IDENTITY BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE AVENUES, AM I MISTAKEN?

>> IS MERELY A DRAFT. THE BUSINESS OWNER CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK AND IS ENCOURAGED.

>> AND THAT IS THE ONE I WANT TO SEE BACK SIMPLY BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO GET A PERSON THAT LIVED IN THE COUNTY BUT THEY OWNED A BUSINESS IN THE CITY TO BE PART OF THIS, RIGHT? SO I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH COMMERCIAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SMALL BUSINESS GROUP OUT THERE IN FORT PIERCE FOREVER BUT I TINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE BUSINESSES AS WELL WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AND PLAYING A PART IN KEEPING FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL. WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO COMMUNICATE AND WORK WITH OUR BUSINESES BECAUSE MUCH OF THE LETTER ABATEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HAD TO BE CORRALLED WITH BUSINESSES. ENTER ABILITY TO KEEP THEIR FACILITIES AT A LEVEL TO HELP US CONTROL THIS LETTER.

IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CONTROL IN THE LINCOLN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE TRASH CANCER NOT THE RIGHT SIZE AND ITS OVERFLOWING AND THEN IT IS PBLOWING DOWN THE STREET.

SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PUSH US TO KEEP THE BUSINESS OWNER THERE AND FOR US TO IMPLORE LOOK TO APPOINT SOMEONE WE TRY TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO GET A BUSINESS OWNER THAT WILL HELP US TALK TO THAT COMMUNITY.

WE NEED THEIR HELP. WE CANNOT DO THIS WITH JUST PEOPLE THAT HAVE PRESIDENTIAL CONCEPTS.

WE NEED BUSINESS OWNERS AND GET TO INFILTRATE THAT CIRCLE OF BUSINESS PEOPLE TO HELP US. BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A TRAIN THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL RIGHT NOW.

>> I AM THINKING OF THE ST. LUCIE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS A CHAMBER THAT MEETS ONCE A MONTH AND THOSE OF THE CHAMBER MEMBERS BETTER FROM FORT PIERCE OR HAVE BUSINESSES IN FORT PIERCE. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT THEN WE'RE KIND OF GETTING INTO SLOTTED POSITIONS.

I AM WONDERING IF CAN'T ONE OF OUR EITHER AT LARGE BE A

BUSINESS PERSON. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I AM FINE WITH THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE - - LET'S BE OPEN ABOUT IT RIGHT THERE. AND PARTICULARLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE ARE CERTAIN STORES AND CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT INVEST IN THOSE STORES AND I DON'T SEE US ANY THE INPUT FROM THEM AND IS CHANNELING INFORMATION TO THEM THAT WE NEED THEIR HELP TO CONTROL THIS LETTER IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND UNTIL WE GO OUT AND FIND A WAY TO GET THEM INVOLVED WITH THIS AND MAKING THEM A PART OF THAT PROCESS TO SAY THIS IS A PROBLEM WE CANNOT EXPECT FOR THE COMMUNITY LOOK DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES TO LITTER ABATEMENT.

THAT IS MY CONCERN. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AS LONG AS WE INTENTIONALLY LOOK AT BUSINESS OWNER TO GET ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET SOME HELP.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON I WILL INCLUDE I DID NOT HAVE IT WHEN I SUBMITTED THE PACKET AND I WILL SHARE SURVEY CAN HAVE IT.

HERE'S A RECENT ADVERTISEMENT FROM THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE LOOKING FOR NEW MEMBERS FOR THE KEEP FORT PIERCE COMMITTEE.

THEY STRONGLY ENCOURAGE WHENEVER POSSIBLE HAVING PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE, MARKETING, FUNDRAISING EXPERIENCE SO WE CAN TAILOR OUR ADVERTISEMENT TO SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE. THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE APPLICATION TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID A SEARCH AND FOUND THIS INFORMATION. I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE HAVING THIS RECOMMENDATION.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE MY LAST FIVE OR FIVE AND HALF YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS, WHEN WE DESIGNATE IN OUR COMMITTEES AND BOARDS, WHEN WE START PINPOINTING YOU SHELBY, YOU

SHALL BE, YOU SHALL BE. >> WE HAVE SLOTS.

>> WOMEN ISSUE. FULFILLING THE SEAT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DATA SUNRISE THEATER BOARD.

IN MY OPINION WE HAVE SEVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO FILL ALL SEVEN OR ONE OF SEVEN SLOTS FOR BUSINESS MEMBERS.

I REALLY FEELING STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.

I FEEL LIKE I AM ALWAYS SEARCHING, WE VOLUNTEER?NO.

>> WELL MAYBE. WHAT DATE IS IT ME? NEVERMIND I AM OUT. SO I THINK I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH THAT AND I CHALLENGE FOLKS ALL THE TIME TO VOLUNTEER.

I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL MISSION, I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. YOU ARE RIGHT.

YOU ARE RIGHT ON TARGET. HOW DO WE CHANGE WHAT WE DO BUT

[03:35:01]

I THINK WE HAVE SEVEN CHANCES. I THINK WHERE WE NARROWED IT DOWN AND I WAS GOING TO BRING THIS UP A MINUTE AGO TOO, MINUTE AGO I MENTIONED TWO STAFF MEMBERS AND THE COMMITTEE OF NINE. LIKE IN THE PARKING COMMITTEE ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS IN THE PARKING IS A COMMISSIONER.

SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE ONE OF US AND MAKE THE OTHER THE STAFF

LIAISON COMMITTEE MEMBER? >> IF YOU DON'T MIND ME SPEAKING. I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE STAFF

FROM THIS COMMITTEE COMPLETELY. >> I KNEW YOU CAN TO SAY THAT.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS FROM COMMUNITY SERVICE TO PUBLIC WORKS IN 2005. I WAS THE CHAIR AT THE TIME.

OKAY. I REMEMBER WHY WE DID IT, REMEMBER HOW WE GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT NOW WE HAVE MUCH MORE OF AN EMPHASIS ON THE SUNSHINE LAW PROVISIONS. IF WE HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE ON A BOARD THAT MEANS THEY CANNOT TALK TO MIKE ABOUT ANY OF THIS AT ANY TIME EXCEPT WHEN SHE GOES TO THAT MEETING.

BUT IF STAFF MEMBERS SUPPORT THE BOARD WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK AND GET THINGS DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE STAFF COMPLETELY AND HAVE THIS AS A CITIZEN DRIVEN COMMITTEE THAT YOU ALL APPOINT THE STAFF SUPPORTS.

>> OKAY. AS LONG AS WE HAVE STAFF SUPPORT. THAT'S THE LIZZIE LIAISON COMPONENT THAT SAYS THIS IS OUR BUDGET, THIS IS HOW MUCH IS DESIGNATING, I'M KIDDING. BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.

IS THE OPERATIONS. AS LONG AS THERE IS THAT SUPPORT STRUCTURE. LET'S GO BACK TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE A LITTLE BIT. I CANNOT REMEMBER, AND HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE BUT ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS IS A COMMISSIONER

MEMBER. >> ALSO THE SUNRISE ADVISORY.

>> SUNRISE, YEAH. >>.

[INDISCERNABLE] [LAUGHTER] >> AND THE RETIREMENT BOARD.

[LAUGHTER] >> WE GOT ONE MORE.

COME ABOUT THAT. THIS IS GOING WELL THIS IS

GOING WELL. >> THE THING THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. MAYBE THAT IS EIGHT.

MAYBE WE APPOINT EIGHT FOLKS AT WITH ONE COMMISSION.

>> THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME AS LONG AS WE CAN HAVE AN EVEN

NUMBER. >> AN ODD NUMBER.

>> I MEAN ODD. >> NEEDS TO BE EXPANSIVE.

THIS IS A BIG CONVERSATION AND THIS IS ONE OF THE BOARDS, ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES. I LOOK AT IT LIKE I DO MAIN STREET. IT IS MANY FOLKS VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS TYPE OF BOARD AS WE CAN GET.

AT SOME POINT YOU GET TOO MANY BECAUSE TOO MANY OPINIONS BUT AT LEAST WERE DRIVEN WITH FOCUS WITH A NICE EXPANSIVE.

>> IN THE COMMITTEE THAT MEETS NOW, MY PERSONAL OPINION, IS A VERY GOOD WORKING COED HE SAID, THEY HAVE GOTTEN USED TO WORKING TOGETHER. LIKE WHAT THEY DO.

THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. THEY REALLY ARE VERY FAITHFUL TO THE MEETINGS I THINK. WE HAD SOMEBODY ASK, WE KNOW THERE IS COVID BUT LIKE ALL WE WANT TO MEET.

WE ARE TIRED OF NOT MEETING. THINGS ARE NOT GETTING DONE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THOSE PEOPLE, THEIR ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM. AND I WAS THINKING WHILE YOU WERE TALKING PAT MURPHY COMES TO EVERY CLEANUP AND HE BRINGS HIS EMPLOYEES AND HE IS A BUSINESSMAN.

HE IS VERY VERY DEDICATED TO THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL PHILOSOPHY AND KEEPING HIS SHOPPING CENTER AREA CLEAN.

HE COULD HELP US. THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENTS WHO COULD HELP US REALLY KEEP THE ENTHUSIASM GOING AND SPREAD THE ENTHUSIASM AND WITH THE INCREASED DUTY OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD PIECE OF IT.

THAT GOES TO ANOTHER LEVEL OF ACTIVITY IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. YES COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICT ISSUE WITH ONE OF US OF BEING ON THAT BOARD? HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ANYTHING.

>> YES. >> THERE IS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. AND THE REASON WHY IS GOES BACK TO THE FOUR OF YOU SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW.

YOU DO GET TO SEE EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF CHAMBERS.

YOU ARE HUMAN BEINGS, CITIZENS. BUT YOU ARECONSTANTLY UNDER THE SCRUTINY THAT YOU CANNOT BE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPOSITION OF THE FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL BOARD OUTSIDE OF A MEETING LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW THAT.

HAVING A COMMISSIONER ON JUST MEANS THE COMMISSIONER IS BOUND BY SUNSHINE JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS.

CONVENIENTLY IF THAT COMMISSIONER WERE TO SEE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OUT AND THE MEMBER SAYS I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THIS PERSON WHO GOT THIS PROJECT FOR KEEP FORT PIERCE

[03:40:01]

EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE. I THINK MR. MIMS IS CORRECT AS FAR AS THAT GOES. THINK MOVING FORWARDTHIS TO BE NO STAFF. I AGREE WITH NICK 100 PERCENT PURE FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THERE SHOULD BE NO STAFF MEMBERS ON ANY BOARD AND THE REASON WHY IS THERE HANDICAP IN A SENSE THAT IF THEY NEED TO ENTER A TECHNICAL QUESTION THEY ARE ON THE BOARD. THEY CANNOT TALK TO THAT PERSON. BUT IF THERE STAFF AS HE ALLUDED TO YOU CAN ASSIST. THE REASON WHY MY OFFICE IS NOT ON BOARD BECAUSE OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE LAWYER. I KNOW THAT'S A LONG WAY TO

ANSWER IT BUT. >> WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS A VALUABLE RESOURCE.

WE HAVE A MEMBER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S A VALUABLE RESOURCE. BUT THEY COULD STILL BE A RESOURCE BUT NOT VOTING IS WHAT THEY SAY, IS THAT RIGHT?

>>. [INDISCERNABLE]

>> THE FULL INTENT IS STILL TO HAVE STAFF ASSIST WITH THIS BOARD AND BE PRESENT. AS DRAFTED IT REMOVES EMPLOYEES

ENTIRELY. >> RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> I AM NOT SO MUCH IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING A COMMISSIONER ON THIS TYPE OF THING.

WHEN YOU ADD AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON A BOARD IT CHANGES THE MOVEMENT OF THE BOARD I THINK.

LOOK AT OUR PARKS COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW.

THERE DYNAMIC AS ALL GET OUT. YOU WALK IN THERE AND MR. MIMS TRIES TO GET HIS WEIGHT DONE AND PUSH THEM TO THE SIDE.

IT WORKS. >> WITH EASE.LAUGHTER]

>> IT IS A FUNCTION OF WHAT HAPPENS.

I'M THINKING IN MY MIND THOSE BOARDS THAT I AM ON AND I KNOW WHY A COMMISSIONER IS ON EACH ONE OF THOSE.

WITH RETIREMENT BENEFITS AND COMMITMENT.

>> CHARTER TOO. >> BY CHARTER AND WE HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. THE PARKING COMMITTEE EVENTUALLY MAYBE NOT SO MUCH BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A QUICK RESPONSE AND TO HAVE THE ABILITY BECAUSE I TRY TO SIT WERE MR. SWEENEY IS AND HIDE FROM THE DYNAMICS GOING ON BUT I CANNOT. IT IS IMPORTANT THEY HAVE ISSUES THAT WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT ADDED IN TO THE SEQUENCE ALL THE TIME THAT EVEN STAFF MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE.

I UNDERSTAND THOSE. WE START TALKING ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION IN THE DIRECTION AND THE LITTER CONTROL AND ALL THE STUFF, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE ALL WORK FROM OUR OWN LEVELS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OUTSIDE.

FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE US THEIR IMPRESSION. I KNOW WHAT MY IMPRESSION IS.

I PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT ALL OUR IMPRESSIONS ARE BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE JUST SOME COMMITTEES I THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR OWN EXISTENCE.

THEIR OWN AUTHORITY, THEIR OWN POWER STRUCTURE WITHIN.

THOSE THINGS THAT COME BACK TO ME FROM THAT TYPE OF EVENT AND MANAGEMENT SEEMS TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE AND MORE VALUABLE TO

ME PERSONALLY. >> COMMISSIONER, WHEN I STARTED LOOKING INTO THIS SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PROVIDE ME WITH THE MOST RECENT BOARDS RESOLUTIONS FOR BOARDS.

WITH ALL OF THEM KEPT GOING BACK TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS MAKEUP OF THAT BOARD AND WHAT THEY DO HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. THE DRAFT I PUT BEFORE YOU TODAY SEEKING,, WE CAN CHANGE IT HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.

I CAN WORK WITH MS. COX AND MR. SWEENEY TO FORMALLY DRAFT A RESOLUTION TO PUT BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL.

>> EVOQ QUESTION. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

DOES THAT CHANGE THE NUMBER, THE QUANTITY AND HAD WE PRESENT THE SELECTION PROCESS? DOES IT CHANGE FROM 9287 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A COMMISSION LIAISON TYPE OF PERSON. YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING? IT WAS NINE WITH A COMMISSIONER IN MY MIND I WAS LIKE WE EACH GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE THREE AT LARGE.

PLUS WE DESIGNATE ONE OF US. WE DON'T DO IT THAT WAY DO WE DO FOUR AT LARGE WITH A DESIGNEE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? >> PERSONALLY I'M NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER AS LONG AS IT'S AN ODD NUMBER.

THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT. I THINK FIVE PEOPLE COULD DO THE JOB. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SHOW UP TO STUFF, SEVEN MAY BE FINE.

I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE YOU THROW INTO THIS THE MORE CHAOS YOU END UP WITH. THE MORE STAFF MAY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE. YOU GET THE RIGHT NUMBER OF

FIVE OR SEVEN PEOPLE. >> HOW MANY CITIZENS AROUND

THERE RIGHT NOW? >> RIGHT NOW THERE IS SIX.

[03:45:03]

>> SIX PLUS THREE STAFF? >> MAYBE THAT ANSWERS IT.

>> MADAM JUST. >> CONSISTENTLY SINCE A PRINTER WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT BOARDS.

THE NUMBER WE HAVE BEEN GENERALLY MOVING TOWARD IS SEVEN QUICK SOME OF THEM ARE FIVE QUICK SOME ARE FIVE.

>> BUT GENERALLY IT IS SEVEN. >> WE HAD SOME THAT WERE MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING IS MOVED TO SEVEN. AND SEVEN IS SORT OF A GOOD SWEET SPOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS AND TWO AT-LARGE. AS MR. MILLS JUST SAID YOUR VACANCIES. PEOPLE MOVE, THEY CHANGE THEIR LIVES.THEN YOU GOT TO FIND SOMEBODY TO FILL IN BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE ISSUES. TO ALL OF YOUR POINT THERE IS NOTHING PROHIBITING SOMEBODY FROM COMING TO ANY MEETINGS.

AS YOU JUST REFERENCED MR. MURPHY.

WE MAKE IT PUBLIC. THEY LOVE TO COME AND TALK AND BE INVOLVED. THEY MAY NOT BE OFFICIAL VOTING MEMBERS BUT THAT COULD BE EXPANDED IF WE HAVE THAT.

WE JUST DID THAT.E ADDED SOMEBODY ON THE FLIGHT LAST WEEK. [LAUGHTER]

>> OR SUNRISE. >> SUNRISE BOARD.

>> AGAIN, MY VIEW OF IT IS SEVEN IS A GOOD NUMBER.

EVERYBODY GETS A PICK. YOU HAVE TWO AT-LARGE, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE REPRESENTATION. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH TRYING TO FILL THE SLOTS IS A LOT EASIER THAN TRYING TO FILL NINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

JUST FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. >> IT IS JUST A COMMITTEE THAT YOU WILL DEPEND ON A MUCH LARGER UNIVERSE TO GET THINGS DONE. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHENEVER WE ARE PICKING THOSE MEMBERS THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT OUTREACH AND HAVE THAT INFLUENCE IN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS THE MISSION AS YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN NOW, WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN?

>> THAT CAN CHANGE. >> THAT IS A DRAFT.

>> YES. >> DO WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS? AND THEY HAVE OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.

THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE FDR A DOCUMENT THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION IN THE FPR A DOCUMENT ABOUT STABILIZING NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE IDENTITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS FEELING THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ORDER STREET CLEAN AND KIND OF IDENTIFY WITH LITTLE SMALLER AREA IN FORT PIERCE AS OPPOSED TO THE WHOLE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW. YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE AND SEE. YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> DEFINITELY. >> YEAH.

>> THE TREE BOARD. >> AND INCORPORATE THE TREE BOARD. AND ALSO I THINK, THIS IS THE NEXT PARAGRAPH I THINK JUST YOU HAD YOU LEFT PARKS AND THERE.

>> YES I JUST SAW THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> I HAVE A POINT. >> YES MS. COX.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BUSINESS OWNER AND THE COUNTY RESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION, DOES THE BUSINESS OWNER HAVE TO BE A COUNTY RESIDENT OR CAN IT

BE EITHER OR? >> I THINK, WHEN I HEARD US ALL SAY IS ANY OF THE APPOINTEES CAN BE A ST. LUCIE COUNTY RESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE RESIDENT OR BUSINESS RESIDENT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M HAPPY I AM FINE WITH THAT.

>> BUT THERE IS NO SLOTS. >> IN THE COUNTY? I AM LOOKING FOR QUALIFICATION. YOU HAVE TO LIVE, IS THAT BIG COUNTY RESIDENT IN ORDER QUICKLY CANNOT LIVE IN VERO BEACH. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN?

>> US TO BE ONE OF THE THREE I THOUGHT.

>> FORT PIERCE, THE COUNTY OR, FORT PIERCE OR THE COUNTY OR BUSINESS OWNER. ALL OF THOSE IN THE AREA.

>> MY QUESTION WOULD BE CAN I BE A RESIDENT OF VERO BEACH AND OWN A BUSINESS IN FORT PIERCE AND BE ON THE BOARD.

>> OFF MY QUESTION. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO

GET AT? >> I DON'T THINK SO.

I DON'T THINK SO. HAS TO BE A BUSINESS OWNER IN

ST. LUCIE COUNTY. >>.

[INDISCERNABLE] >> IF WE LIMIT IT AND SAY IT ST. LUCIE COUNTY RESIDENT THEN WE ARE COVERED.

>> COVERS IT ALL. >> FAIR.

>> FORGET THE BUSINESS, THAT IS UP TO YOU GUYS BUT IF YOU

WANTED BUSINESS PERSON. >> THAT IS FAIR.

>> YOU REACH OUT. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> WE GOT IT.

WE GOT IT. >> 'SQUALIFICATIONS, THAT'S MY

CONSTANT CHALLENGE. >> IT PUTS US IN A RESPONSIBILITY. IF YOU WANT TO BE A MAJORITY OF FORT PIERCE RESIDENT THAT WE PICK FOR PIERCE RESIDENTS.

THE RESPONSIBILITY RIGHT. RESIDES ANYWAY.

>> RIGHT. GOOD POINT.

>> ARE WE GOOD? THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU GO HOME NOW.

>> YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO. >> AND WANTS TO HEAR THIS.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ONE

[h. "One Fort Pierce" Community marketing and branding campaign update at the request of Commissioner Curtis Johnson, Jr.]

>> MADAM AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

[03:50:06]

[LAUGHTER] >> I WILL NOT BELABOR THE POINT HERE. WE BEEN IN HERE MOST OF THE MORNING I THINK I SENT IN A PICTURE.

I'M CIRCLING BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TOGETHER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.

I HAVE INCLUDED THOSE PRICE POINTS AND AGAIN THE WHOLE BRANDING CONCEPT IS FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT FOR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THE TERMS OF PAST AND EVEN THE PRESENT, WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD THE FUTURE OF FORT PIERCE.

WE GOT TO BRIDGE THESE COMMUNITIES TO BE ON AN UMBRELLA OF ONE FORT PIERCE AND IS NOT TO SUPERSEDE THE LOGO OR THE SEAL OR THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF CAPACITY BUT HOW DO WE BEGIN TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO A PECTORAL MARKETING DELIBERATE CAMPAIGN. THAT BRIDGES THE GAP BETWEEN THESE COMMUNITIES UNDER THE BANNER OF ONE FORT PIERCE.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS NOT FROM A COST STANDPOINT AND HOW DO WE GET BEHIND THE CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS.

I AM CURRENTLY USING IT AS PART OF MY CAMPAIGN AND COMMUNICATIONS WHEN YOU HAVE OPEN DOOR AND TYPE OF THING.

BUT THE LAPEL PINS WOULD BE A VERY INEXPENSIVE INVESTMENT.

QUITE A FEW WITH THAT. IT WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO TO PUT A BRAND ON SOMETHING AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING IN A POSITIVE WAY. AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS AND YOUR THOUGHTS SINCE OUR LAST CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT GETTING BEHIND AND

MOVING FORWARD? >> REFRESH MY MEMORY.

WHAT YOU DO WITH THOSE CHALLENGE COINS, THAT'S WHAT

YOU CALL, >> IT'S TWO PRICES.

THERE IS A CHALLENGE COINS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A LAPEL PIN.

THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PRICE STRUCTURES.

THE CHALLENGE COIN IS LIKE ANYTHING.

IF YOU MAYOR WOULD WORK WITH SOMEBODY AND YOU REALLY WANTED TO SAY YOU ARE EXEMPLIFYING ONE FORT PIERCE ATTITUDE AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND USE OF THE WOULD GIVE THEM A CHALLENGE

COIN. >> IS KIND OF A SPECIAL

RECOGNITION. >> EXACTLY.

>> DOES NOT REQUIRE A CEREMONY IT'S JUST SAYING I APPRECIATE

IT. >> EXACTLY MY POINT.

THIS ASPECT OF CHALLENGE COIN. LAPEL PINS ARE MUCH LIKE LAPEL PINS. I REMEMBER MAYOR WHEN I WAS SERVING A CERTAIN, ISSUE GAVE ME THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE PIN.

IS THE SAME TYPE OF UP APPROACH WOULD BE THAT WAS RUN DIFFERENT COMMITTEES HAVE DIFFERENT INTERACTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. IT MAY BE A WAY OF SAYING YOU ARE EXHIBITING THE ACTIONS OF ONE FORT PIERCE AND MOVING US FORWARD AND BRIDGING THESE GAPS AND THINGS YOU ARE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS AN INSIGNIA FOR THE LAPEL PIN UP. LIKE I SAID YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE OF THOSE THE END OF THE CHALLENGE COINS AND THEY ARE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE AT LEAST START WITH THAT WITH LAPEL PINS.

ACTUALLY. >> I THINK GIVING COINS THAT ARE NICE AND THEY ARE WELL MEANT AND EVERYTHING AND IT MAKES MY PURSE VERY HEAVY. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU DON'T WEAR IT. >> RIGHT.

AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT YOU WANTED TO BE MORE VISIBLE.

WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THE LAPEL PINS AND THEY WITH THE CHALLENGE COINS. PUT THE PRICE IN THERE.

I THINK IT WAS ONLY THE PRICE FOR CHALLENGE COINS WERE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE FOR A MINIMUM AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE LAPEL PINS. THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I AM AT.

>> I WOULD THINK THAT THIS YEAR WITH VERY LITTLE MONEY TAKEN OUT OF OUR TRAVEL BUDGET FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> I DO BELIEVE THE FIRST REQUEST IS GOING TO COME AT THE

NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING. >> UNFORTUNATELY IT IS ME.

[LAUGHTER] >> WHY DID YOU DO THAT TO MEET MS. COX? MS. COX SET ME UP ON THAT.

>> WHO WERE JUST WAITING. [LAUGHTER]

>>. [INDISCERNABLE] WE TELL YOU.

>> BUT NO, I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW THE BUDGET SET UP THERE BUT I THINK IT IS A RELATIVELY SMALL INVESTMENT.

I THINK IT IS A WAY WE CAN BEGIN TO SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT BRIDGING THESE GAPS.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MEANT A LOT TO ME WHEN I RAN.

MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THE VISION OF FORT PIERCE, THE LEADERSHIP WE HAVE TO EXHIBIT AS LEADERS THAT WERE ELECTED TO DO THAT. AND THE LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL HELP US DO IT.

THEN HOW DO WE ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY?OW DO WE TALK TO THEM, TREATING THEM DIFFERENT, WELCOMING THEM AND PUTTING THEM ON THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. ALL THAT SYMBOLIZE AND THAT ONE

LAPEL PIN. >> DOCUMENT.> DOCUMENT.

[03:55:01]

>> I THINK BOTH OF THOSE IDEAS ARE REALLY GOOD.

IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN I SPOKE TO DOCTOR MOORE THE FIRST THING HE DID WAS SHOW ME HIS CHALLENGE COIN.

>> HE CITY CARRIES YOURS EVERYWHERE YOU GO EXCEPT FOR TODAY. I DON'T HAVE A TODAY.

>> ANYWAY. IT BREAKS THE ICE.

WE SAY THE RIGHT THINGS TO FOLKS ALL THE TIME.

WE ARE SO APPRECIATIVE AND WHAT WE DO.

THIS IS THAT SOMETHING EXTRA THAT CEMENTS EVERYTHING.

IT IS KIND OF INTERESTING IN A WAY I THINK.

WHEN I WEAR THE LAPEL PIN FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IT PUTS ME ON GUARD ALL THE TIME AND SOMETIMES INITIATES CONVERSATIONS. SO THESE ARE THINGS I KIND OF SKIP OVER AND ON THE CHALLENGE COINS IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IF I AM IMPRESSED BY SOMEONE WHO I REALLY WANT TO REACH OUT I AM ALWAYS OLD SCHOOL. I GET SOME STATIONARY FROM THE CLERK, I RIGHT A HANDWRITTEN NOTE.

HERE'S ABOUT ONE HALF HOUR, 45 MINUTES OF MY TIME WITH MY STAMP USUALLY SOMETIMES AND THROAT IN THE BIN IF I'M HERE.

IT'S SO IMMEDIATE WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHALLENGE AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING. IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT I SAW YOU DO AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU'RE GETTING THIS COIN.

IT HAS AN IMPACT.T IS THERE AND DONE ALREADY.

SO I GET IT. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO TRY AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO TRY BOTH OF THEM EVENTUALLY. WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE STANDING FORWARD NOW AND HELPING THE CITY MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND SOMETIMES THANK YOU ISN'T ENOUGH.

>> WE CANNOT GIVE EVERYBODY A KEY TO THE CITY.

THIS IS KIND OF A NICE - - >> YOU CANNOT GIVE EVERYBODY A CHALLENGE COIN. IT IS THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST OUT THERE THAT TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER.

>> EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING - - APP.

>> I'M ALL IN ON THAT. THE BUDGET TIME AND I THINK WE

NEED TO ADD. >> I AGREE AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

>> AND MOVE FORWARD. YEP.

I THINK IT SHOWS A COMMITMENT FROM THIS COMMISSION THAT WE DO BELIEVE. [INDISCERNABLE] EVEN THOUGH WE

HAVE TWO DISTRICTS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE USE THE SYMBOL OF REALLY THE BRIDGE IN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE THE TWO WERE TRYING TO DRAW THOSE TOGETHER AND THEY CONNECT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND MR. MIMS AS YOU LOOK AT THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ON HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUDGET STUFF BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE START WITH THE LAPEL PINS FIRST AND GO FROM THERE.> YET.

>> NOT A PROBLEM. >> THE CHALLENGE COIN, IT IS NOT JUST GOING TO HAVE YOUR NAME ON IT.

[LAUGHTER] >> ARE WE GIVING OUT - -

>>. [LAUGHTER]

>> I THINK AS WE WORK TOWARD SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE I THINK EACH COMMISSIONER SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF CHALLENGE

COINS QUITE FRANKLY. >> THAT IS PRINTING.

IT COULD SAY THE COMMISSION. >> HE COULD SAY, ABSOLUTELY.

COULD BE THAT. >> WE COULD START COLLECTING

THEM. >>.

COULD HONESTLY SAVE THE COMMISSION OF FORT PIERCE AND BE THERE. I THINK AGAIN THE POINT OF IT AND CHALLENGE COINS RIGHT NOW BECOMING VERY POPULAR.

IF YOU LOOK AT MANY EXECUTIVES ORGANIZATIONS WILL COLLECT THEM. I HAVE A COLLECTION I STARTED IN MY OFFICE NOW OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

IT BECOMES A POINT OF SYMBOLISM, RIGHT, AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS WORLD AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND POINTS YOU INTERACT WITH. YOU WILL SEE THESE THINGS ON

MOST CREDENTIALS NOW. >> BRING YOUR PURSE AND GIVE

CURTIS. >> HE WOULD HAVE TO CARRY IT.

[LAUGHTER] >> IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTORS COIN AND I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND EXEMPLIFY THE THINGS WE ARE DOING IN THE CITY IT'S A SENSE OF PRIDE.

THIS REALTY BEHIND THIS IS THAT FORT PIERCE PEOPLE ARE VERY PROUD PEOPLE. NO MATTER WHAT PART LINCOLN PARK OR THE BEACH, THEY ARE VERY PROUD TO BE FROM FORT PIERCE. YOU'LL BE AMAZED AT THE TYPE OF PARTICIPATION AND PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF IT JUST TO SAY I AM EXEMPLIFYING. I THINK IT IS TIME FOR US TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS PUBLICLY.

>> GOOD IDEA. >> THANK YOU.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

P>> ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

>> NEXT WE MOVE ON TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> AS OF THE TYPE OR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT TO TO THE COMMISSION.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU'VE TREATMENTS, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING PLEASE.

>> FRANK, 4320 GATED TRACE CIRCLE FORT PIERCE.

[04:00:06]

YOU KICKED THIS AROUND PRETTY GOOD AND MAYBE MR. WILL BE SO READY TO PASS THEM OUT. WHEN I SAY WHEN I AM FIXING TO SAY. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE A CALL AND THEY CAN GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON A CHALLENGE COINS.

WHAT THEY DO AND THEIR DEPARTMENT IS EACH UNIT, K-9 UNIT FOR INSTANCE, HAS CHALLENGE COINS.

EACH OFFICER ISAAC CHALLENGE COINS.

WHEN YOU GIVE JOE PUBLIC A CHALLENGE COIN COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE GIVING HIM YOUR OR HIM OR HER YOUR CHALLENGE COIN.

SO WHEN YOU DO THAT IT'S A LITTLE EXTRA SPECIAL.

I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET TWO FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

CHALLENGE COINS BEGAN REALLY BECOMING VERY POPULAR IN A MOTORCYCLE COMMUNITY ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO.

IT WAS FOR SPECIALTY PROGRAMS THAT VARIOUS CLUBS OR MANUFACTURERS OF VEHICLES WOULD PUT TOGETHER.

THAT WAS REALLY I THINK THE BEGINNING OF THE CHALLENGE COIN CONCEPT CAME FROM AND IT HAS GROWN.

YOU ARE RIGHT MANY EXECUTIVES OF CORPORATIONS HAVE THEM NOW.

I AT ONE TIME PURCHASED CHALLENGE COINS AND I WILL GIVE THEM TO SPECIALTY EMPLOYEES THAT DID SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL FOR THE CORPORATION. MANY OF THEM YOU COULD BUY AMOUNT FOR THEM. YOU CAN PUT IT ON YOUR DESK.

MANY WOULD PUT THEM IN A MOUNT AND PUT IT ON THEIR DESK.

THEY WERE VERY PROUD THEY HAD THAT.

YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS A WAY TO CREATE MORE PRIDE IN THE CITIZENS FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

GO FOR IT. DO IT.

BUT IT COMES OUT OF YOUR POCKET TOO.

[LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO COST ME MONEY FRANK.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON.

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA CITY COMMISSION BOARDS AND

COMMITTEES UPDATE. >> SO DO HAVE A VOLUNTEER THAT

WANT TO START? >> I WILL START BECAUSE ALREADY STARTED.I DID TALK ABOUT THE TOURIST OUT.

[INDISCERNABLE] THIS, IF MY TWITTER RACHEL.

>> MAR WAS A. >> WAS AMENT.

WEDNESDAY. I'M SORRY.

>> @THATTHE OCC. >> 12:00.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE TIME. >> MIGHT B-12:30.

>> THE SUNRISE THEATER IS AT 12:30.

WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. I JUST REACHED OUT TO CHARLOTTE AND ASKED FOR MINUTES FOR TWO YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER JUST SO I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. SO WE DON'T START FROM SCRATCH.

OKAY. THE PARKING COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT ISSUES, ESPECIALLY AGAIN AT ANY RIVER DRIVE COURTHOUSE. PRETTY MUCH GOT THAT WORKED OUT. THE MARINA WE ARE WORKING WITH THE MARINA ON RECOMMENDATIONS. THE RETIREMENT, WE JUST HAD AN UPDATE FROM CALLAN, OUR CONSULTANT.

OUR FUND RIGHT NOW. IT WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO WHEN I WAS JUMPING UP AND DOWN THAT WE ACTUALLY HIT 200 MILLION.

WE ARE AT $232 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

THE FUND IS DOING WELL. EVEN IN THIS COVID ENVIRONMENT WITH UNCERTAIN CRAZY MARKET OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE HIT ALL OF OUR BENCHMARKS. THINGS ARE GOING IN A VERY STRONG SENSE. FOR SOME REASON FORT PIERCE RETIREMENT SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST ONES IN THE UNITED STATES. IN FACT THE KEEP TELLING US ALL THE TIME THEY DON'T MENTION THEM BY NAME BUT THEY USE US AS AN EXAMPLE TALKING TO OTHER COMMUNITIES ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO. WHAT WE HAVE DONE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER MANY YEARS. WITH THAT I AM COMPLETE.

>> I THINK YOU DO. [INDISCERNABLE] BECAUSE I'M

LOOKING AT THE SHEET. >>.

[INDISCERNABLE] >> 12:30.

>> 12:30. ON WEDNESDAY.

>> BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.

THE TV SECRET I DON'T KNOW. >> YOU ARE RIGHT.

SUNRISE THEATER AND THE OTHER ONE IS.

[INDISCERNABLE] SORRY ABOUT THAT.

COMMISSIONER. >> LINCOLN PARK MAY SHE HAS BEEN MEETING FREQUENTLY.THEY ARE TAKING VERY SERIOUSLY THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION OF PIONEERS FOR PIONEER PARK SO THAT'S A MAJOR ENDEAVOR AND THE COMMITTEE IS PULLING TOGETHER.

[04:05:04]

TPO HAS BEEN PRETTY INTERESTED IN STUDY RIGHT NOW.

A NUMBER OF TRAFFIC STUDIES AND CONVERSATIONS GOING ABOUT DIFFERENT POINTS OF ACCESS FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND ITS INTEREST IN BEING ON THE BOARD. IT'S LEARNING FOR ME TO SEE THE FUTURE PLANNING AND WHERE I AM GOING.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING EXTRA TO ADD ANOTHER COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WILL DO THAT.

MY ORIENTATION IS CONTINUING WITH THAT.

MET WITH CHIEF SPARROW FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE HOURS FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION THERE AND GETTING UP TO SPEED THERE.

WE WILL BE DOING MORE AND SPENDING TIME AT THE FIRE STATION TEAR COMING UP PRETTY SOON TO GET THAT END OF IT.

I THINK THAT IS IT FOR ME ON THE BOARDS.

AM I MISSING ONE? I THINK THAT IS IT.

[INDISCERNABLE] WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP PRETTY SOON.

WHAT A BIG JOINT MEETING LAST MONTH WITH THE ENTIRE SEABOARD A CALL THE EASTERN SEABOARD AND THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT IS VERY INFORMATIVE. NOTHING MAJOR HAPPENING RIGHT

NOW. >> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. JUST ELABORATE ON THE TPO ONE OF THE THINGS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY A PLAN WHICH IS BASICALLY HAVING A PLAN IN CASE OF DISASTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WITH THE TPO OPERATE. THERE WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.

IT USED TO DIFFER BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I CANNOT MEMBER WHICH AGENCY BUT IT WILL NOW DEFAULT TO GO SOMETHING CRAZY IN THE TREASURE COAST OF THE TPO WOULD MEET UNDER THE AUSPICES OF DISTRICT 4 AND THE DOT.

IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO HAYWIRE.

WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN THAT WAS ONE OF THE UNIQUE ITEMS. DON'T GET TO TALK ABOUT THAT MUCH. YOU NEED TO BRING IT UP.SOME GRANTS WERE BEING WERE TALKED ABOUT AND WILL BE APPLIED FOR REPUBLIC PARTITION PLAN AND ANNUAL EVALUATION I THINK THAT WILL BE UP. JUST SOME BASICALLY NETWORKING, MARKETING FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED.

MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE, I BELIEVE I THINK MONIES WERE TRANSFERRED MR. MIMS. DO YOU RECALL?

TO THE MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION. >> TALKING ABOUT THE

ALLOCATION. >> ALLOCATION, YES.

>> YES BECAUSE THE TABLES HAVE BEEN DONE FOR BOTH MAIN STREET.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. HIS TOUGH TIMES JUST TRYING TO MAKE THINGS COME ABOUT. THE FOCUS WHICH PART OF MAIN STREET IS DOING WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF ADVERTISING AND EVENTS. MYSPACE WAS HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN. FRIDAY FEST IS COMING UP WITH THE CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION IN THE PORT ON MAY 7. WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. IT WILL BE A BIG WEEK.

>> BIG WEEK. THE ANNUAL MEETING WILL MEET THAT WEDNESDAY ALSO WHICH WILL BE CINCO DE MAYO.

>> RIGHT. THE FIFTH.

>> THAT WILL HAPPEN. THAT WILL BE AN EVENT THE SECOND WEEK. WHAT ELSE ON MAIN STREET? SOMETHING ELSE AND NEEDED TO MENTION.

>> DID YOU DO THE GOLF TRAUMA. >> GOLF TOURNAMENT IS COMING UP. THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE TO DO THAT. MICHELLE IS LEAVING MAIN STREET AND MOVING TO THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT.

SO THEY HAVE ADVERTISING IS LOOKING FOR A NEW ROCKETING POSITION. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE LOOKING FOR WORK, IF YOU WANT TO APPLY NO PROBLEM.

EXCEPT ANY COULD BE THE BOARD MEMBER AND THE EMPLOYEE.

[LAUGHTER] >> WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. [LAUGHTER]

>> NEED TO CHAT. >> IT IS GOING WELL.

MAIN STREET IS CHALLENGED BY A NUMBER OF THINGS AND TRYING TO KEEP UP EVENTS. WE AS A BOARD APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES OF COURSE.

IN THE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

THERE ALSO BE A DRIVE, SOMETIMES SOON WITH MARKETING AND LOOKING AT THE HISTORIC BACCHUS HOUSE IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DO WE WANT TO PAY IT OFF, REFRESH, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, DO A CAMPAIGN, CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TYPE EVENT.

>> IS IT HEAVILY MORTGAGED? >> IT IS NOT.

WE ARE A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION.

>>. >> AND IS IN A GOOD SPOT.

>> WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

YEAH, MAIN STREET GOLF TOURNAMENT WORKED IN INLET

[04:10:02]

THE TREASURE COUNSEL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CONTINUES TO CONCENTRATE ON LEGISLATIVE ISSUES AND THAT IS WHAT THEY USUALLY DO WHEN THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION.

I CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LEGISLATION AND ALSO WORK WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND FLORIDA MUNICIPAL INSURANCE TRUST. AGAIN THERE ALL CAUGHT UP ON LEGISLATIVE ISSUES RIGHT NOW. FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY, HAVE YOU GOTTEN THE CHECK FROM THEM FOR OUR

TRANSFER? >> I HAVE NOT HEARD AS OF YET.

>> ARE RIGHT TO NOTE DANCING IN THE STREETS YET RIGHT.

[LAUGHTER] >> I HAD MY FIRST MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGING AND SO I CANNOT REPORT A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ACRONYMS ARE NEW TO ME.

I CAN TELL YOU THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD SERVICES AND GOT A GOOD STAFF. IN THE FIRE DISTRICT, WE ARE

MEETING I THINK NEXT WEEK. >> NEXT WEEK.

>> I WAS ON IT. I GOT A PROMISE FROM THE CHIEF THAT IN THE SPRING SOMEWHERE APRIL OR MAY THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSOLE HIM, AND DISCUSS THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

I JUST WANT YOU TO HOLD HIM TO THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THATMEETING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE ALL

OF US WILL GO TO THAT MEETING. >> LET'S DO IT.

IT WAS A COMMITMENT AND WHEN I GOT UP I SAID CHIEF, THAT DOES NOT RELIEVE YOU FROM DOING THIS.

OH NO, WE GOT IT ALL PLANNED. HOLD HIM TO THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO MENTION ALSO THAT EACH YEAR I ASK FTU A BOARD TO HAVE A STAFF, HAVE A REPORT TO THE DOA BOARD ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT'S BOARD IS NOWHERE ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

WE JUST HAD THAT REPORT AND STEVENS GAVE THE REPORT.

>> YES. >> IS RIGHT.

>> HE IS PRETTY QUICK. HE HAD A POWERPOINT SO WE SORT OF STUCK TO THE POWERPOINT. [LAUGHTER] > MANNER WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE CHECK FROM FB UA.

>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL RIGHT YOU ONE.

[LAUGHTER] >> 6 MILLION.

>> OKAY. >> IT DID, I KNEW I HAD ONE MORE WE ARE GOING TO FORT PIERCE FOR THE FIREWORKS THAT'S MY QUESTION.ARE WE DOING IT AGAIN TO MARK SOON IF THESE VENDORS WANT TO KNOW I HAVE TO SCHEDULE IT OUT POINTED OUT HOW MANY THINGS I NEED TO ORDER.

>> AND ALSO WE ARE STARTING COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR AGAIN. NOT VIRTUAL.

>> MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. >> IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT HELP SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.