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WENDELL

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

>> GOOD MORNING, I AM FRAN ROSS, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PRESIDING OVER THIS MORNING'S HEARINGS. YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU RECEIVED NOTICE YOUR PROPERTY IN VIOLATION AND GIVEN CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO CORRECT IT. AS OF THIS MORNING YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO. FOR THOSE OF YOU WISH TO BE HEARD, WE'LL CALL YOUR CASE SHORTLY.

DOES ANYBODY NEED AN INTERPRETER? OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

MADAME CLERK, YOU WANT TO DO THE OATH.

>> TWO THINGS, WE ARE GOING TO DO THE PLEDGE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> SAYING PLEDGE. >> REMAIN STANDING SO YOU CAN BE

[A. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH TO DEPARTMENTAL WITNESSES]

SWORN. IF EVERYONE CAN RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND STATE YOUR NAMES. YOU CAN SAY YOUR NAMES AT THE MICROPHONE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOUR

TESTIMONY WILL BE THE TRUTH? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHEN YOU ARE READY.

[B. IDENTIFICATION OF CASES IN COMPLIANCE OR RESCHEDULED]

>> THERE ARE THREE CASES THAT WE'LL BE RESCHEDULED.

CASE B 1. 20-2812, 1103 NORTH 13TH STREET COMPLIED. AND 5C RESCHEDULED.

CASE 20-2765. 609 SOUTH 15TH STREET.

AND THEN ALSO 5D RESCHEDULED TO NEXT MONTH.

CASE 21-139. 1101, NORTH 22ND STREET.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

CALL THE FIRST CASE. >> FIRST CASE 5A.

[A. 20-2077 1225 N 25th Street Saleh, Harbi & Intesam Frank Remling]

20-2077. 1225 NORTH 25TH STREET.

SALEH, HARBI & INTESAM ARE THE OWNERS.

>> GOOD MORNING. WHEN YOU ARE READY.

>> MY NAME IS FRANK REMLING. -- [INAUDIBLE] CASE NO.

20-2077. 1225 NORTH 25TH STREET.

CASE INITIATED SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2020.

OWNER ADDRESSES 9258 CAMPBELL ROAD.

VIOLATION PICTURES, IPMC 105.1.5.

IBMC 304.6. EXTERIOR WALLS.

ROOFS AND DRAINAGE. IBMC 304.

WINDOWS, DOORS, DRAINS. INTERIOR SURFACES.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ARE MAKE PLUMBING REPAIRS TO THE TOILET LEAKING.

MAKE STRUCTURAL REPAIRS TO THE FLOOR ROTTING.

REPAIR AND REPLACE ROOF LEAKING. REPAIR CEILING.

REPAIR AND REPLACE FALLING DOWN. MAKE ELECTRICAL REPAIRS FOR EXTERIOR ELECTRICAL LINES. REPAIR AND REPLACE BACK DOOR NOT WORKING PROPERLY. I DID TAKE SOME PICTURES.

WE WERE HERE LAST MONTH. >> I THINK ONLY THING YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS THE DOOR. EVERYTHING ELSE DONE EXCEPT FOR THE DOOR, I BELIEVE. STATE YOUR NAME.

>> ZACH SALEH. EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM. THEY PUT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT TO DO IS PULL PERMITS FOR THE DOORS WHICH I HIRED A CONTRACTOR.

APPARENTLY HASN'T GONE THROUGH. CAN WE GET AN EXTENSION?

>> WHAT IS THE CITY'S POSITION ON IT?

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>> BUILDING DEPARTMENT COORDINATOR, PREVIOUSLY SWORN IN. FRANK, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME

YOU WERE AT THIS PROPERTY? >> IT WAS -- IT HAS BEEN A

COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND CONTINUING UNTIL YOUR NEXT HEARING SO WE

CAN PERFORM AN INSPECTION. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I WILL DO THAT BASED ON THE REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY THE PARTIES, I'LL CONTINUE UNTIL MY NEXT HEARING. GOOD LUCK, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE PERMIT. ONCE YOU GET THE PERMIT YOU HAVE 180 DAYS TO BRING THINGS IN COMPLIANCE.

GET SOMEONE FROM THE CITY AND THEY'LL ASSIST YOU

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> NEXT CASE 5B, 20-2425, 6700

[B. 20-2425 600 Edwards Road WBC Collections LP Ed Smith]

EDWARDS ROAD. WBC COLLECTIONS LB IS THE OWNER.

>> MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> ED SMITH. LOEKT ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 20-2425.

600 EDWARDS ROAD. OWNER IS WBC COLLECTIONS LP.

92515 SOON ROAD, SUITE D ONE HOUSTON, TEXAS.

77064. VIOLATION FPC 105.12017 PERMIT REQUIRED. ELECTRICAL.

MECHANICAL AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION BEING DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT. RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A PERMIT PENDING IN FIRE FOR REVIEW BUT THE PERMIT HAS BEEN REJECTED BY ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL REVIEW, SO SHE HAS TO -- OR THEY HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE THE CORRECTIONS NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET A PERMIT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> OKAY. >> REBECCA NICHOLSON.

WE RECEIVED COMMENTS BACK. I RESUBMITED TO THE ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT. IT IS TAKE AGO LITTLE LONGER THAN USUAL TO GET IT BACK. AS SOON AS WE GET THE UPDATES

WE'LL RESUBMIT. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL CONTINUE THIS UNTIL MY NEXT DOCKET. YOU HAVE BEEN DOING MOST OF THIS WORK YOURSELF, I UNDERSTAND. I'LL GIVE YOU 30 DAYS AND

HOPEFULLY YOU GET THE PERMIT. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT CASE, 5A, 21-64, 506

[E. 21-64 506 N 2nd Street Apt B AABAA International Inc. Logan Winn]

NORTH 2ND STREET APT B. AABAA INTERNATIONAL INC IS THE

OWNER. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, DONNA BENETTON, PROPERTY MANAGER.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THESE WINDOWS REPLACED.

I HAVE A CONTRACTOR: WINDOW SCAPES JUST SPOKE TO THEM THIS MORNING. THEY ARE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OUT APPLYING AND PULLING THE PERMIT. I DID SPEAK TO SEAN THIS MORNING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF US GOING AHEAD AND APPLYING IF R THE PERMIT. WHENEVER THE WINDOWS ARRIVE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE PERMIT AND COMPLETE THE WINDOWS.

THEY DO TELL ME THEY ARE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OUT.

I KNOW. IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT.

ONLY SO MANY WINDOW COMPANIES THAT WILL ACTUALLY DO IT.

IT IS NOT JUST A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

IT IS AN APARTMENT. >> MR. WINN?

>> I APPLIED A LOT OF THE STUFF FROM THE CASE ORIGINALLY.

THERE HAS BEEN NO PERMIT APPLIED.

>> THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR LIST.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. LIKE I SAID, I DID SPEAK TO HIM THIS MORNING AND WOULD E-MAIL ME THE STATS ON THE WINDOWS SO I CAN AT LEAST APPLY FOR THE PERMIT THAT WE CAN GET IT INTO PROCESS, UNTIL THEY GO TO PULL THE PERMIT, WINDOW COMPANY WOULD

HAVE TO COMPLETE IT. >> OKAY.

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IS 30 DAYS GOING TO BE ENOUGH? >> DONNA, HOW LONG DID THEY SAY BEFORE THEY COULD COMPLETE THE PERMIT PROCESS?

>> THEY SAID IT WOULD BE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THEY COULD APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. LET ME LOOK.

HE JUST TEXTED ME YESTERDAY. ON WHEN HE WAS GOING TO BE OUT.

SORRY, I HAD THIS UP. MIGHT BE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THEY CAN SUBMIT IT. I WAS VOLUNTEERING TO EXPEDITE

IT. >> I'LL CONTINUE IT FOR 30 DAYS.

WITH REGARDS TO SUPPLIES, THAT IS THE PROBLEM EVERYWHERE.

>> THAT IS WHAT HE IS TELLING ME.

GETTING THEM. HE IS USING A DIFFERENT COMPANY TO GET THE WINDOWS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FASTER.

I SPOKE TO ONE COMPANY THEY SAID IT WOULD BE THE END OF THE YEAR.

HE THINKS HE CAN GET IT IN COMPLETED IN OCTOBER.

I CAN'T RENT IT UNTIL IT IS DONE.

WE ARE TRYING TO EXPEDITE IT AS WELL.

>> I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON IT.

I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER 30 DAYS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> YOU, TOO.

[G. 21-372 2108 Orange Ave Tri-County Realty Holdings LLC Frank Remling]

>> NEXT CASE 5G CASE 21-372-2108 ORANGE AVENUE, TRI-COUNTY REALITY HOLINGS LLC IS THE OWNER.

>> GOOD MORNING. EVERYBODY.

>> GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU?

>> FINE, MA'AM, HOW ARE YOU? >> FINE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> THIS CASE BROUGHT TO ME ON A COMPLAINT CASE NUMBER 21-372. 2108 ORANGE AVENUE.

INITIATED FEBRUARY 12TH. 2021.

OWNER TRI-COUNTY REALITY HOLDINGS LLC.

FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. 34947.

VIOLATION FDC 105.1 PERMIT REQUIRED.

CORRECTIVE ACTION, FENCE INSTALLED WITHOUT A PERMIT.

PERMIT APPLIED FOR IN FEBRUARY. STILL IN ZONING TO BE REVIEWED.

CONTRACTOR NOTIFIED. I DO HAVE PICTURES OF THE FENCE.

>> OKAY. >> DO YOU ALL OBJECT TO PICTURES

COMING INTO EVIDENCE. >> WE'LL MOVE THEM INTO EVIDENCE. I HAD A NOTE HERE MR. REMLING THAT THE PERMIT HAD BEEN REJECTED?

>> YES, IT HAD BEEN REJECTED. >> ANYTHING FURTHER MR. FRANK

REMLING IS THIS >> NO.

>> MR. D. >> I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FOR ONE OF MY SONS SO HE CAN START A BUSINESS.

TRYING TO IMPROVE IT. HIRE ADD FENCING COMPANY.

ACTION FENCING TO DO THE FENCE. I HAD NO IDEA THEY DIDN'T PULL A PERMIT. I PAID FOR THEM TO PULL A PERMIT AND PAID FOR THE FENCING BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS COMPLETED.

FOR SOME REASON I DIDN'T GET THE FIRST LETTER.

I AM NOT SURE WHY THE PERMIT WAS REJECTED.

I SINCE HIRED AN ARCHITECT, GREG BOGS.

MAJORS KEEPER TO GET EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF.

I PUT A BRAND NEW ROOF ON THE PLACE.

PULLED PERMITS. IT IS NOT LIKE I WAS TRYING TO GET AROUND ANYTHING. I HAD NO IDEA THEY DIDN'T PULL

THE PERMIT OR REJECTED. >> THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

YOU APPLIED IN FEBRUARY? >> I HAD ACTION FENCING APPLY

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FOR THE PERMIT. AND HE ASSURED ME THAT EVERYTHING WAS TAKEN CARE OF. AND I GOT THIS LETTER HERE.

I WAS UNAWARE. >> A LOT OF THAT IS GOING AROUND NOWADAYS PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE FLIM, FLIM IN THIS BUILDING INDUSTRY BECAUSE OF THIS SIMILAR TYPE OF SITUATION.

>> TO BE HONEST, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED.

MY NEPHEW WORKED FOR ACTION FENCING AND ASSURED ME THE SAME

THING. >> ALL RIGHT.

MR. BOGS YOU WANT TO ADDS ANYTHING TO IT.

>> MY NAME IS STUART. I OWN NATURES KEEPER.

MR. BOGS IS GOING TO DO A LANDSCAPE PLAN AROUND THE FENCE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE CITY HAD ANY REQUIREMENTS?

OR SPECIAL PERMITS? >> DO WE KNOW WHY THE PERMIT WAS

REJECTED? >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE? FENCE REJECTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING, A SIX FOOT HIGH CHAIN LINK FENCING IS NOT PERMITTED PER CITY ORDNANCE SECTION 125-322. REFER TO CODE SECTION AND REQUIRE LANDSCAPING FOR PROPERTIES ALONG ORANGE AVENUE.

PARAGRAPH D 5. >> I AM GOING TO CONTINUE IT SO YOU GET TOGETHER WITH THE CITY AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO FROM

HERE. >> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WE ARE THINKING THE FENCE HAS TO GO BACK 10 FEET.

THIS IS A SOLID CONCRETE AREA. MR. DEFRANCISCO PURCHASED IT.

WOULD THE CITY MAKE HIM REMOVE THAT CONCRETE, THE BACKSIDE OF YOUR CONCRETE? I AM JUST ASKING.

>> I HAVE OTHER CASES I HAVE TO CALL.

I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO CASE FOR YA.

YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU COULD. I HEAR SIMILAR STORIES PEOPLE HIRE AND DON'T DO WHAT THEY SHOULD DO AND YOU END UP WITH IT. I'LL CONTINUE THIS.

CITY WILL HELP YOU STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT.

>> OKAY. >> THANKS FOR COMING.

>> HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> THAT IS CONTINUED TO JULY?

>> YES. NEXT CASE.

[A. 19-1848 108 N 8th Street Orrego de Villegas, Martha Ed Smith]

>> NEXT CASE 6A. CASE 19-1848, 108 NORTH 8TH STREET. MARTHA ORREGO DE VILLEGAS IS THE

OWNER. >> OKAY.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS JOHN, MY MOTHER IS

MARTHA ORREGO DE VILLEGAS. >> CASE NO. 19-1848 FOR 108 NORTH 8 STREET. PROPERTY OWNED BY MARTHA ORREGO DE VILLEGAS OF 1235 SOUTHWEST BRIARWOOD DRIVE PORT ST. LUCIE FLORIDA. VIOLATIONS CITY ORDNANCE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 304.7.

THIS MATTER CAME BEFORE YOU DECEMBER 18TH, 2019.

FEBRUARY 27TH, 2020, NOTICE OF EXTENSION PROVIDED.

PROVIDING 90 DAYS. MAY 6TH, 2021, AFTER SOME PERMITS ISSUED, THEY HAVE BEEN CLOSED OUT.

HOWEVER NOT ALL PERMITS WERE ISSUED TO RESOLVE THE VIOLATIONS. MAY 6TH, 2021 AFFIDAVIT OF NON COMPLIANCE AND FINES BEGIN. AS OF JUNE 8, 2021 FINES TOTAL INCLUDING 30 DAYS IN RECORDING FEES.

STAFFER CONSIDERED THREE CRITERIA IN THIS HEARING.

SERIOUS MODERATE, TWO, ANY AND ALL ACTIONS OR IF VIOLATIONS WERE NOT CORRECTED WHAT ACTION TAKEN BY ANY OTHER OWNER OR PARTY AND INTEREST TO BRING THE VIOLATION INTO COMPLIANCE.

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OWNER HIRE ADD CONTRACTOR AND OBTAINED SOME PERMITS TO BE DONE BUT NO PERMITS FOR BLUMING OR ELECTRIC.

EITHER CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OR OTHER QUASI-JUDICIAL OR JUDICIAL PROCESS.

TWO PREVIOUS VIOLATIONS. SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I WILL DEFER MY RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE RESPONDENT.

>> WHO IS GOING TO RESPOND. ?

>> I WAS HERE VISITING THEM THAT WEEKEND.

WEN THEY RECEIVED THIS LETTER, SPECIFIED ROOFS AND DRAINAGE.

THAT SAME DAY SHE HIRED ANDREWS ROOFING CONSTRUCTION.

PULLED THIS PERMIT. THAT WAS DONE THAT DAY.

SHE CAME HERE TO ASK ADVISE ON WHAT TO DO.

THEY TOLD HER TO NOT GET FINES TO ACCRUE UP.

SHE SHOULD SCHEDULE THIS HEARING.

THEY RECEIVED ALL THE SIGNATURES.

WE HAVE A FINAL SIGNATURE DATED HERE, JANUARY 12TH, AND ONE ON APRIL 29TH. THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING UNTIL THEY GOT THIS LETTER.

THEN THEY CONTRACTED ANDREWS. >> WHAT DID THOSE LETTERS SAY SHE REFERRED TO AND THOUGHT SHE WAS IN COMPLIANCE

>> FINAL SIGNATURE FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> CAN I SEE THAT? SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

STAFF DID NOT OBJECT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT AS

EVIDENCE. >> YOU WOULD OBJECT?

>> DO NOT OBJECT >> WE'LL MAKE A COPY OF IT AND GIVE YOU THE ORIGINAL BACK. OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO THEY ARE NOT IN TOTAL

COMPLIANCE, I AM UNDERSTANDING. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

INITIAL NOTICE VIOLATION AND ORDER DETERMINING VIOLATION SPECIFIED OBTAIN PERMIT FOR ALL INTERIOR DEMOLITION AND RENOVATION WORK OR REPLACE ROOF WHERE IT IS DAMAGED.

OBTAINED TWO PERMITS FOR DRY WALL INSULATION AND FRAMING FOR TWO UNITS. NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR ROOF REPAIRS OR PLUMBING OR ELECTRICAL WORK DONE WITHIN THOSE TWO UNITS. THE PERMIT CARDS THEY SUBMITTED FOR THOSE TWO PERMITS THEY DID OBTAIN FOR DRY WALL INSULATION AND FRAMING. 19-33-3343 FOR APTS D AND Y.

THEY DID BOTH HAVE BUILDING FINALS.

HOWEVER AGAIN, NO PLUMBING OR ELECTRICAL WORK WITHIN THESE

PERMITS. >> SO I DON'T THINK THERE WAS

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S SUBSTANCE SHL AS FAR AS PLUMBING. WHATEVER PERMITS THEY NEED TO GET OR HAVE TO GET OR HIRE ANYBODY TO GET, WILLING TO DO IT. THE ANDREWS ONE WAS HIRED THAT

DAY. >> FINES CONTINUING TO ACCRUE

UNTIL TODAY. >> DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS

YOU NEED TO DO NOW? >> WE DO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS NOW. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN WRITING, RIGHT. IF ANYTHING HAS GONE LOST, IT IS PROBABLY A LANGUAGE BARRIER. I DON'T LIVE HERE WITH THEM, I HAD TO DRIVE DOWN FROM GAINESVILLE.

>> YOU ARE A GOOD SON. >> APPRECIATE THAT, RAISED BY A

WONDERFUL MOTHER. >> HERE IS WHAT I'LL DO.

I'LL CONTINUE THIS. I'LL -- ARE YOU REQUESTING FINES

BE STOPPED? >> IDEALLY, WAIVED OR NOT ACCRUED. THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

A LOT OF THE TIMES I HAVE TO HELP THEM WITH REPAIRS AND GET

PERMITS AND ALL THAT STUFF. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'LL STOP THE FINES FROM ACCRUING.

BUT BEFORE YOU LEAVE, ARE YOU LEAVING TODAY, GOING BACK TO

GAINESVILLE OR BE HERE A WHILE? >> I HAVE TO GO BACK.

I RUN A BUSINESS THERE. YOU NEED TO GET WITH STAFF SEE WHAT IT IS YOUR PARENTS, MOTHER NEEDS TO DO SO SHE CAN STAY IN COMPLIANCE AND GET THE MATTER TAKEN CARE OF.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL STOP FINES.

GET WITH THEM. >> EXCUSE ME, WHEN YOU SAY STOP THE FINES ARE THEY STILL GOING TO BE CHARGED FOR ALL THE DAYS

UP TO THIS POINT? >> BUT, THERE IS A REMEDY FOR THAT. I AM NOT SAYING THEY WILL BE WIPED OUT. THEY'LL EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU.

WE CAN GET WITH THEM TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU NEED IN TERMS OF

PERMITS. >> WHY ARE WE STOPP

FINES? >> WELL, IF THEY COME INTO

COMPLIANCE. >> I'LL STOP 'EM THEM UNTIL THEY PULL THE PERMITS. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO GET THE PERMITS. ONCE THEY PULL THE PERMIT SIX MONTHS. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU. MR. COSS, IS THAT OKAY?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> ONCE YOU PULL THE NECESSARY PERMITS. I AM ONLY GOING TO STOP FINES, 30 DAYS. IF YOU PULL THEM.

THEY WILL STOP. IF NOT THEY WILL START BACK.

EMPORIUM ELECTRIC TO PULL THESE PERMITS.

THEY WERE DESUEDED BY SOMEONE AT THE CITY FROM PERFORMING THE WORK BECAUSE THERE WERE TOO MANY FINES AND TOO MUCH TROUBLE AT

THE PROPERTY. >> WELL, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THAT IS JUST LIFE. I AM TELLING YOU WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO TO HELP YOU. ONCE YOU PULL THE PERMITS YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO TREAT THEM. THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU.

THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU. BE WARE OF PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU WHAT THEY CAN'T DO. CODES ARE THERE TO PROTECT EVERYBODY, RESIDENTS, EVERYBODY. CITY NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF

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STOPPING PEOPLE FROM IMPROVING THE PROPERTY.

BE WARE OF THAT. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO EVERYDAY.

THIS IS WHAT THEY DO EVERYDAY. SO IF I HAD TO LISTEN TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD ME WHAT I COULDN'T DO I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE. BE WARE OF THAT.

I HAVE WORKED WITH MOST OF THESE PEOPLE MORE THAN 15 YEARS.

WE WANT THE CITY TO LOOK GOOD. BE CAREFUL WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS

YOU THAT. >> YES, MA'AM.

WHO SHOULD WE SEE? >> MR. SMITH? YOU CAN SEE MR. SMITH, MR. COSS, MISS BECK.

ALL RIGHT. TAKE CARE.

[F. 21-176 501 Wendell Rd Unit A Sowle, Helen Logan Winn]

>> OKAY. NEXT CASE 5F, 21-176, 501 WENDELL RUDE, UNIT A. -- ROAD, UNIT A.

>>> THAT WAS ABSOLUTE PERFECT TIMING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL DID IT. >> [LAUGHTER].

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING MR. WINN.

>> CASE NUMBER 21-176, 501, WENDELL ROAD UNIT AN OWNER HELLEN SOWEL. VIOLATION IS FBC 105.12017.

CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, OBTAINED PERMIT -- WITHOUT A PERMIT.

NO PERMIT PULLED. I DO HAVE PICTURES.

>> SHOW THE PHOTOGRAPHS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> IT WILL BE A MINUTE. >> ANYTHING FURTHER MR. WINN? YOU ALL NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND BE SWORN.

>> MY NAME IS RANDALL WINFREY, I AM HELLEN SOWEL'S SON.

>> YOU CAN STAND THERE. >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOUR

TESTIMONY WILL BE THE TRUTH. >> YES, MA'AM?

>> ARE YOU GOING TO TESTIFY? >> WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN, ANY WAY,

IT IS NOT GOING TO HURT. >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOUR TESTIMONY IS GOING TO BE THE TRUTH.

>> YES. >> MICHAEL OWEN.

TELL THEM YOU SWEAR. >> GO AHEAD.

LAST YEAR WHEN THE PANDEMIC STARTED, THEY CLOSED ALL THE PARKS, CLOSED EVERYTHING DOWN FOR THE KIDS.

WE WERE STUCK IN THE HOUSE. I CALL TODAY BUILDING DEPARTMENT, I UNDERSTAND THEY WOULDN'T TAKE CALLS, WHATEVER THE CASE WAS. I LEFT SEVERAL MESSAGES FOR SOMEBODY TO GET BACK TO ME TO FIND OUT IF I NEEDED A PERMIT TO BUILD A FORT FOR THE KIDS OUT OF PALATES.

I MAY HAVE SPENT $75 IN TOTAL THAT WAS JUST IN THE MAIN STRUCTURE BOARDS I PUT IN THERE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PALATES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING? THE LADY SAID I DON'T KNOW YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK TO SO AND SO AND GAVE ME HIS NUMBER.

I LEFT SEVERAL MESSAGES, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING? I MEAN TOP ON TOP OF THERE, I TOOK THAT OFF SO IT WOULDN'T BLOW OFF OR WHATEVER, SUN SHADE UP ON TOP.

I TOOK THAT OFF SO IT WOULDN'T BLOW AROUND.

I DON'T HAVE EXCUSE OTHER THAN THE FACT I DID IT FOR THE KIDS

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TO PLAY. WHEN I CALLED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING GOING ON, I WOULD HAVE PULLED A PERMIT HAD I KNOWN I NEEDED ONE.

THEN THEY ARE TELLING ME IT IS DOUBLE PERMITTING FEES.

IT IS REALLY NOT AN ADD ON TO THE HOUSE.

IT IS A CLUB HOUSE FOR THE KIDS, NO DOORS, NO WINDOWS.

AWE. OKAY.

>> OKAY. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO PULLING A

PERMIT? >> YES, MA'AM.

IT WAS LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PULL THE PERMIT.

I HAVE $75 IN IT. A LOT OF TIME WITH THE KIDS.

I HATE TO JUST TEAR IT DOWN. YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE STOP BY AND SAY WHAT A COOL IDEA IT WAS AND HOW AWESOME IT WAS.

I HAD COPS STOPPING AND TELLING ME HOW COOL IT WAS.

>> IT LOOKS COOL, LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE

TO HAVE A PERMIT. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> YOU DID A GREAT JOB. >> I THE REST IS ALL PALATES.

IT IS PALATES ON TLETTES ON THE. >> CITY RECOMMENDING I GIVE YOU

60 DAYS TO PULL THE PERMIT. >> NOT IF THEY ARE GOING TO CHARGE ME $1,000. SUPPOSED TO GO BY HOW MUCH YOU SPEND IN IT. I SAID I ONLY HAD $75 IN IT.

I ONLY BOUGHT A COUPLE OF BOARDS.

I SAID IT WAS ALL PALLETTES. >> PERMITS COST.

>> THEY GAVE ME LATE PERMIT. THEY DOUBLED IT.

IT SHOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN $100 BECAUSE I DIDN'T PULL THE PERMIT AND LATE PERMIT. I GOT CAUGHT WITHOUT A PERMIT.

I CALLED AND CALLED. YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING? AT LEAST THREE TIMES I CALLED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO FIND OUT IF I NEEDED THE PERMIT BEFORE I STARTED.

>> OKAY. HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO.

I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND HOW OLD IS HE?

>> HE IS THREE. >> ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A NINE YEAR OLD, SHE HELPED ME BUILD IT.

I DON'T PLAY IN IT. IT IS JUST FOR THE KIDS.

>> IT IS ALSO SAFETY FEATURES THAT COMES WITH BUILDING THINGS WITHOUT PERMITS. YOU HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE CITY AND DID NOTHING WE ARE ALL LIABLE.

THERE IS A REASON WHY WE HAVE PERMITS.

>> ANY WAY YOU CAN WAIVE THE PERMIT OR HELP ME OUT WITH IT? I AM STILL TRYING TO GET ON MY FEET AND STILL TRYING TO GET

PERMITS. >> I TELL YOU WHAT, AS GOOD AS IT LOOKS YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THAT FOR A BUSINESS.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE STOPPED BY? SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN LIKE THAT. IT IS REALLY -- I LIKE IT.

I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT ONE. >> I HAVE HAD AT LEAST 10 PEOPLE

ONE. >> THERE IS A JOB.

>> THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND LABOR I PUT INTO THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO CHARGE THEM.

LIKE I SAID, JUST PALLETTE HOUSE.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL PAY MONEY FOR IT.

I DON'T WANT TO PREACH. I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO.

SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THINK ABOUT THE BALL PALLETTES. IT IS A GOOD LOOKING STRUCTURE.

MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD DO THAT TO MAKE

A LIVING. >> RIGHT.

YOU HAVE YOUR HELPER THERE WITH YA.

ALL RIGHT. >> HE'LL BE WITH ME FOR A WHILE YET. ANYTHING FURTHER FROM EITHER PARTY? ALL RIGHT.

I AM GOING TO FINE THAT YOU ARE IN VIOLATION I'LL GIVE YOU 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT. THAT IS, GET WITH THE CITY, SEE

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IF WHAT IT WILL TAKE, WHAT IT WILL COST FOR YOU TO GET THE PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL OR REQUIRED INSPECTIONS.

COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS AND ALL THE VIOLATIONS NOT REQUIRED OR $100 A DAY.

YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. NOW, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TALK WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THEY WILL GIVE YOU DIRECTION.

YOU HAVE 60 DAYS TO PULL THE PERMIT.

ONCE YOU PULL THE PERMIT YOU HAVE 180 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. YOU MAYBE IN COMPLIANCE, MAY

JUST NEED A PERMIT. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THINK ABOUT MAYBE YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN A GIFT.

BY SOMEBODY. >> YEAH.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE DECK? THAT IS JUST PALLETTES ON THE

GROUND. >> WITH THE CITY, THEY WILL TELL

YOU. >> AWESOME.

>> WHO IS HERE FROM THE CITY THAT I CAN SPEAK WITH?

>> A LOT OF CITY PEOPLE HERE THIS MORNING.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> SIR COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR

NAME AGAIN? >> RANDALL WINFREY.

LIKE OPRAH. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

[H. 21-452 2008 Easter Ave Goward, Musthfa Frank Remling]

>> ALL RIGHT NEXT CASE 5H ONES ONE PRESENT.

5H 21-455. 2008 EASTER AVENUE.

GOWARD MUSTHFA IS THE OWNER. >> WHEN YOU ARE READY, MR. FRANK

REMLING. >> THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME AS A COMPLAINT. PERMIT REQUIRED.

CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ARE OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR BUILDING WORK BEING DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT INCLUDING ROOF, FRAMING, STUCCO AND INSTALLATION OF WINDOWS. OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR ANY OTHER WORK BEING DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

I DO HAVE PICTURES OF ALL THE WORK BEING DONE.

>> OKAY. >> IT WILL BE A MINUTE.

>> NOTING NO RESPONDENT IS PRESENT.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE PICTURES?

>> YOU CAN SEE THE ROOF BEING DONE AND STUCCO ALL NEW.

PILINGS OUT FRONT, PRETTY OBVIOUS A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE

ON THIS HOUSE. >> DID THE RESPONDENTS GET

NOTICE? >> I BELIEVE THEY DID, YES.

>> ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> UM, ANYTHING FURTHER? THERE IS NO ONE HERE ON BEHALF OF GOWARD MUSTHFA. HE IS NOT OR SHE IS NOT PRESENT NOR IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE. BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED VIOLATION EXISTS 2008 EASTER AVENUE AND GOWARD MUSTHFA RESPONSIBLE PERSON FOR THAT VIOLATION.

I WILL GIVE THEM 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT.

OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT CLOSED. COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS AND ALL OTHER VIOLATIONS ORDER NOT REQUIRED.

FINE $100 PER DAY. 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.

[I. 21-463 515 N 13th Street Grindley, Phillip Ed Smith]

>> LAST CASE IS CASE 21-463. 515 NORTH 13TH STREET.

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PHILLIP GRINDLEY IS THE OWNER. HE IS ALSO NOT PRESENT.

>> WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 21-463. 515 NORTH 13TH STREET.

OWNER'S NAME PHILIP GRINDLEY. 1503 BOSTON AVENUE FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. 2017 PERMIT REQUIRED.

NEED TO OBTAIN PERMIT FOR THE RENOVATION WORK INCLUDING BUILDING, ELECTRIC AND PLUMBING. THERE IS NO PERMITS AS OF THIS TIME. I HAVE PICTURES TO SUBMIT.

>> MOVE PHOTOS AS STATES 1 COMPOSITE.

>> ADMITTED AS SUCH. >> WHEN I WALKED IN PWORKERS ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME. WHEN I WALKED UP, EVERYBODY KIND OF SCRAMBLED AROUND. I ASKED IF THEY HAD PERMITS.

HE TOLD ME NO. HE TOLD ME NO HE DIDN'T KNOW HE NEEDED PERMITS. I ASKED HIM CAN I SEE WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON WHEN I WALKED IN, TOTAL CONSTRUCTION.

THEY DID THE SUBFLOORS. THEY REFRAMED WALLS.

THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF WIRING THE PLACE.

IT WAS A TOTAL REMODEL THEY WERE TRYING TO DO WITHOUT THE PROPER

PERMITS. >> WAS NOTICE SENT TO THE

RESPONDENTS? >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, YES.

>> NOPE. >> ALL RIGHT.

BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED, I FIND A VIOLATION EXISTS AT 515 NORTH 13TH STREET.

PHILIP GRINDLEY RESPONSIBLE PARTY.

NEITHER REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT FOR THIS MEETING.

THIS LOOKS LIKE A TOTAL HOUSE RENOVATION.

>> ALL RIGHT. VIOLATORS WILL BE GIVEN 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS UNTIL THE PERMIT CLOSED COMPLY WITH ALL PERMIT CONDITIONS. OR FINE $100 PER DAY.

30 DAYS TO APPEAL. >> NEXT CASE.

>> THAT IS IT. >> OKAY.

HOW WERE THEY NOTIFIED? >> NOTICE SENT CERTIFIED MAIL.

GREEN CARD REPLACED IN THE PHILE.

IF UNSIGNED AFFIDAVIT IS MAILED TO VIOLATOR.

REGULAR U.S. MAIL ATTACHED TO IT.

COPY PLACED IN THE FILE. TEN DAYS BEFORE HEARING NOTICE OF HEARING POSTED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD.

NOTICE OF HEARING POSTED TAT PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING. CERTIFICATION CARD NOT{ENTER}ED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITHIN 10 DAYS, POSTING

COMPLETED SAME WAY. >> THANK YOU, ANYTHING FURTHER?

>> NO. >>

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.