Jun 15, 2021 Fort Pierce Utilities Authority

[Call to Order]

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>> THIS MEETING OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY REGULAR MEETING HERE JUNE 15TH, 2021 #

>> IS KNOW CALLED ORDER. WE WILL DO OPENING PRAYER AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

>> FATHER JESUS NAME WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.

WE NEED YOUR WISDOM AS YOU REST ON THESE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE PLEASING YOUR SON FOR THE WELL-BEING AND EQUITY OF ALL THE SEASONS AND ALL BUSINESS USERS OF THE UTILITIES SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE THANK YOU FOR EXPANSION OF OUR CITY SERVICES AND FOR INCREASE.

WE THANK YOU WE MAY MAKE THESE THINGS AVAILABLE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

CALL THE ROLL TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM.

[GFOA Distinguished Budget Presentation Award]

AWARD AND WHO THEY PRESENT. >> DO YOU TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION? YOU HAVE THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE THAT YOU DIDN'T BRING IT WITH YOU.

[LAUGHTER] >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> JUST A PIECE OF PAPER. THAT SAID WE RECEIVED THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD FOR OUR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '21. AND A ALL THE WORK THAT GOES INTO IT. AND DUE DILIGENCE OF THE EMPLOYEES AND STAFF AND I THINK THIS IS OUR 19TH YEAR RUNNING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE AWARD.

WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. THE NEWS WOULD BE IF YOU

DIDN'T GET THE AWARD. >> WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.

[LAUGHTER] >> GOOD POINT.

>> WE WOULDN'T NOTICE; RIGHT? CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZED THE

[A. SET THE AGENDA]

MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE SET THE AGENDA.

ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES TO BE APPROVED FOR MAY

[B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

18TH. >>> MOVED.

>> SECOND >> IT'S BEEN MOVE AND SECONDED THAT THE MINUTES FROM MAY 18TH HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE THIS FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC

[C. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC]

AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND COME UP AND SPEAK.

THE CHAIR DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. NEED A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT

[D. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[E. LETTERS OF APPRECIATION]

RECOGNITION. >> AN E-MAILS RECEIVED BY ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS CHRIS ZDADOVSKY EXPRESSING HIS HAPPINESS IN SERITTA REEVES AND HER HANDLING HIS CHALLENGES. MESSAGES RECEIVED VIA OUR WEB SITE FROM CUSTOMER LOUISE BERNIER, COMPLEMENTING WENDY TOMLINSON FOR HELPING WITH HER ACCOUNT.

A VOICE MAIL WAS RECEIVED BY CUSTOMER MR. THOMAS LEWIS THANKING ASHLEY LEVIN. HE COMPLIMENTED ON HER POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO CALL

HIM BACK. >> I APPRECIATE HIS INTEREST IN DOING. THE SECOND WE CITY MANAGEMENT HOLD UP YOUR HAND WE'LL PUT YOU ON THE BOOK.

THANK YOU. THE CHAIR DOES NOT SEE IN OLD

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[G.1. Approve the FPUA Pole Attachment Policy that will provide a framework for permitting, review and approval of requests to attach any equipment and facilities to FPUA utility poles]

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK.

GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN MANAGEMENTIOUS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOUR LATEST UTILITY POLE ATTACHMENT POLICY AND REVIEW KEY ASPECT AND GOALS WE WISH TO RESERVE BY LEVERAGES THE POLICY. WE HAVE OUR ELECTRICAL ENGINEER THAT HELPED DRAFT THE POLICY.

FPUA HAS 14,047 DISTRIBUTION POLES USED SYSTEMWIDE WITHIN OUR ELECTRICITY TERRITORY. FPUA USES THE POLES AS MEANS TO DISTRIBUTE ELECTRICITY TO OUR CUSTOMER.

WHERE THE TOP PORTION IS USED FOR VOTAGE AS SERVICE.

THE MIDDLE PORTION USED FOR THIRD PARTY ATTACHER TO FPUA POLE. THE PICTURE ILLUSTRATED ON THIS SLIDE DISPLAYS ONE OF OUR FP A CONCRETE POLES WITH THIRD PARTY ATTACHMENT CONNECTED. SINCE OTHER COMMUNICATION USE AERIAL SPACE TO PROVIDE CUSTOMER SERVICE THEY PROVIDE AVAILABILITY FOR THIRD PARTY ATTACHMENT TO UTILITY BASED ON THE CODE THE NATIONAL ELECTRICITY SAFETY COULD OR THE NEFC. WE ENTERED INTO CONTRACT AND AAGREEMENT WITH TWO CURRENT ATTACHERS AT&T AND COMCAST.

THESE CONTRACTS WERE SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. DUE TO DATED NATURE OF JOINT USE CONTRACT. FPUA NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT A POLICY FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS.

THE FIRST REASON MODERN AYE AND UPDATE EXISTING ATTACHMENT POLICY GUIDELINES. MANY TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE COMMUNICATION INDUSTRY SINCE THE EARLY 90S AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF POLE ATTACHMENTS ARE REQUIRED. AN EXAMPLE WOULD ADVANCEMENT OF CELLULAR PHONE FROM WRT DAY USAGE IS COMMON TODAY.

IN ORDER FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT THEY MUST LEVERAGE UTILITY POLES FOR THIS PURPOSE. AS AN EXAMPLE IMPLEMENTING 5-G NETWORK BY UTILIZING ELECTRIC UTILITY POLES.

THE NEXT REASON TO AVOID ATTACHMENT VIOLATIONS WITH REGULAR TOIR AGENCIES LIKE THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OR PFC. ADEQUATE CLEARANCE MUST BE MAINTAINED FROM GROUND TO JOFSHHEAD.

IF THE CLEARANCE ARE MODIFIED BY REGULAR TOIR AGENCIES THE THIRD PARTY ATTACHER WHOSE ARE THE CLOSEST TO THE GROUND WILL NEED TO FIX THE ISSUE. THE THIRD REASON IS PROVIDE CHECKLIST FOR FPUA EMPLOYEE TO FOLLOW WHICH WILL ENSURE THE DEPATCHMENTS ARE MADE TO POLES AND PROCESS FOR ATTACHING AS FOLLOWS. AN EXAMPLE TO CONFIRM SPACING REQUIREMENT ARE MET ON THE POLE.

SINCE MULTIPLE THIRD PARTY ATTACHERS ARE USED WITHIN THE SAME SPACE ON THE POLE. THE FOURTH REASON IS ENFORCE THE POLICY SO THAT THERE'S NO AMBIGUOUS OR VAGUE SITUATIONS ENCOUNTERED. THE TWO PICTURES ILLUSTRATED SHOW ISSUE WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED WITH JOINT USE ATTACHERS.

OR NO TRANSFER OCCURRING ON THE RIGHT PICTURE.

WITH THE OLD POLE STILL IN PLACE.

ANOTHER MAJOR REASON FOR NEW POLICY DUE IN PART RAE CURRENTLY PROPOSED LEGIZATION IN THE FLORIDA HOUSE AND SENATE THIS LEGISLATION INDUCED TO PUSH FOR RURAL PROD BAND INITIATIVE. THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC ASSOCIATION WORKED FPUA. OTHER FLORIDA MUNICIPALITY AND OTHER UTILITIES TO MODIFY THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR MUNICIPALITY AND NOT ONE SIDED FOR COMMUNICATIONS TO ABUSE MUNICIPAL POLE ATTACHMENTS.

SOME OF THE PROS ARE THE ABSENT OF RULES LEAVING THE HUMAN UTILITY FREEDOM TO DETERMINE ATTACHMENT REGULATIONS. A THREE-YEAR INCENTIVE RATE FOR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AS DEFINED BY BROADBAND.

DEPLOYMENT REPORTING PROCESS FOR UTILITY TO KEEP TRACK OF ATTACHMENT. THE CONS ARE THEY ONLY APPLY TO MUNICIPALITY AND RENEGOTIATIONS ONLY OCCUR ON YEARLY BASIS. HAVING POLE ATTACHMENT WILL PROVIDE MEANS TO WORK WITHIN ANY NEW LEGISLATION AND PROVIDE POLE ATTACHMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS.

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SPECIFICALLY THE POLICY DELVES INTO THE WORKER SAFETY AND INSURANCE REREQUIREMENT THEY MUST FOLLOW.

AND THE GUIDELINES FOR WIRELESS FACILITIES THAT WILL BE ATTACHED TO FPUA OWNED POLES.

THESE GUIDELINES ARE BASED ON MODERN EQUIPMENT USED TO ATTACH TO THE POLE AND THE APPLICABLE COYED GOVERNING CONSTRUCTION FROM FEFC. FDOT.

PFC AND OTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THESE OTHER ENTITIES ASIDE FROM COMMUNICATION COMPANIES CAN APPLY FOR ATTACHMENT FPLA OWNED POLE. OO TILTS TO APPROVE REJECT APPLICATION FOR ATTACHMENT. THE BOIL SVTS DEMONSTRATE HOW TO APPLY FOR ATTACHMENT BY PROVIDING HYPER LINKS FOR QUICK APPLICATION SUBMISSION. WE WILL PROVIDE POTENTIAL THIRD PARTY ATTACHER WITH EASILY ACCESSIBLE METHOD TO APPLY FOR ATTACHMENT. IN THE END THIS POLICY WILL BE USED TO PROPERLY ENFORCE THIRD PARTY.

AND THE OTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES.

THE POLICY WILL ALSO PROVIDE GUIDELINES FOR CONSTRUCTION QUALITY OF ATTACHMENT TO ENSURE ABOVE ALL ELSE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE PUBLIC IS ADEQUATELY PROTECTED. TO INCLUDE THIS PRESENTATION, STAFF PROPOSING TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE ATTACHMENT POLICY AND PROVIDE FRAMEWORK FOR PERMITTING RAE VIEW AND APPROVAL OF REQUEST TO ATTACH ANY EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES TO FPLA OWNED UTILITY. STAFF BELIEVES THE POLICY WILL HELP FPLA MODIFY FOR FUTURE THIRD PARTY POLE ATTACHERS.

WITH THAT, JACOB OR I WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> YES. IS THERE A FEE?

>> NO. >> NO, MA'AM.

>> I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME LEGSATION SAID WE HAD TO ALLOW THIRD PARTY TO ATTACH TO POLES.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT LEGISLATION?

>> IT'S A VAGUE MEMORY. I CAN'T REMEMBER --

>> YOU ARE CORRECT THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEY LOOKED LIMITING WHAT YOU COULD CHARGE PER POLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS IN THIS LEGISLATION WE WERE ABLE TO GET FCC FORMULA. THAT FCC FOORM ALONG BECAUSE THE TELECOM LOBBIED THE GOVERNMENT.

BE DOING THAT THEY DROPPED THEIR RATES DRAMATICALLY.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT OUT OF THE LEGISLATION AS IT PASSED THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

AND WE'RE ABLE PRODUCE OUR OWN RATINGS FOR THAT.

HOWEVER ONE OF THE PARTS OF IT KIND OF PROBE AND CON.

YOU CAN'T RENEGOTIATE RATES FOR PERIOD OF ONE YEAR AND I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATION BEGINS ON JULY 1ST.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WITH THIS AND YOU SAW IT IN THERE, WE KIND OF PUT IT LET'S PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE THE MOUTH IS.

WE WENT TO INCENTIVE RATE ALLOW PEOPLE IN BROADBAND PROVIDERS TO DO UNDER SERVED SAND UNDERSERVED AS AS DESIGNATED BY THE BROAD BAN COUNCIL.

ONCE THEY DETERMINED IT UTILITY MUNICIPAL UTILITIES WILL ONLY CHARGE A DOLLAR PER YEAR FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS I BELIEVE IS THE WAY IT'S SET UP.

AFTER THAT RENEGOTIATE THE RATES ACCORDING TO WHATEVER OUR CURRENT STANDARD FORMULAS ARE PER OUR AGREEMENT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? UUSE THE SAME POLE, DO WE HAVE

TO THINK ABOUT LIABILITY? >> THE ONLY LIABILITY FOR OUR STUFF. AND THEN ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RUN INTO WHICH EVERYONE SEES AROUND TOWN HAS TO DO WITH POLE TRANSFERS. AS WE GET READY TO RENEGOTIATING. THERE'S TOUGHER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN GAGE INSIDE THE AGREEMENT THAT WILL A ALLOW US TO DO THI DIFFERENT THINGS. IT GIVES THEM GUIDELINES FOR WHAT WE LOOK FOR THEM TO FOLLOW.

AGREEMENTINGS WILL GIVE YOU HARD LANGUAGE THAT WILL FORCE THEM TO DO DIFFERENT ASPECT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING.

>> WHO USES THE POLES FROM THE OUTSIDE COMPANY? TABLE? TELEPHONE? WHO USES THE MOST FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE?

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S AT&T IS A JOINT USE.

BASICALLY, THEY HAVE HALF THE POLES.

WE HAVE HALF THE POLES IN THE CITY.

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INTONE WOULD BE CABLE TR V OR THL ATTACH --.

I TAX TO POLES. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOUR PRESENTATION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR

APPROVAL. >> I WILL MOVE A PROFESSIONAL.

>> SECOND. >> MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT WE TAKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM SECRETARY.

CALL THE ROLL.

>> THANK YOU. BOTH.

[G.2. Approve three Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) Utility Work Agreements for utility work and reimbursements associated with the FDOT State Road A1A North Causeway Bridge Replacement Project in the amounts of $442,720.00 for the Wastewater system, $57,280.00 for the Water system, $206,017.79 for the Electric system and $31,279.21 for the Gas system.]

LUGIE DAWSON WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

TODAY I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FDOT UTILITY WORK AGREEMENT FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT PROJECT.

SUBORDINATED 16H6 EASEMENT TO FACILITY THE CAUSEWAY BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THE CONDITION OF THE U.S.

BOARDNATIONS REQUIRES FDOT TO COMPENSATE FPLA FOR IMPACTS TO UTILITIES CAUSED BY THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

ESTIMATED COST TO LOCATE FPLA FACILITIES IS $737,297 WHICH WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE FY-22 CAPITAL BUDGET.

FDOT AGREES WITH THE AMOUNT. FFLA REQUIRED TO SIGN EACH UTILITY WORK AGREEMENT TO COMPLETE 8 INCH GROUNDLESS SEWER AND 6-INCH COSTING 442,710.

THEATE-INWATER MAIN CAUSING GETTED 209,017.79 AND ELECTRIC SYSTEM $31,279.1. STAFF IS LOOKING TO START THE UTILITY RELOCATION WORK IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

IN ADVANCE OF FDOT CONTRACTOR STARTING IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.

THEREFORE, STAFF REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE THREE UTILITY WORK AGREEMENTS. WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO. >> AS LONG AS IT'S COMPLETELY REIMBURSABLE. I MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SHE MOVED APPROVAL. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WE TAKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM SECRETARY, CALL THE ROLL]

[G.3. Status report on Electric Power Cost Adjustment (PCA) for April 2021 - For Information Only]

. NEXT ITEM IS STATUS REPORT FOR

PCA FOR APRIL 2021. >> GOOD AFTERNOON TOMPECK, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD AFTERNOON I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE APRIL POWER COST ADJUSTMENT AND THE UPDATED BE DIRECTION.

THE POWER PORT RECOVERED THROUGH CUSTOMER BILLING THAT ARE IN EXCESS OF BASE POWER COST ACCUMULATED AND TARGETED BACK TO CUSTOMER. THE COST OF POWER PURCHASED FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL WAS BUILT TO FFLA $68.69.

THIS WAS A DECREASE OF $4.36 AS COMPARED TO THE MARCH BILLING. IN APRIL FVR PLR EXPERIENCES EKOVRY BRINGING CUMULATIVE TO 92.9 MILLION.

THIS CHART TRACKS CUMULATIVE MONTHLY BALANCE OF THE OVER PC OVER RECOVERY IN RELATIONSHIP RELATION TO POWER COST

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AND FORWARD FOR 12 MONTHS TO 2022.

APRIL OF '22. THE POWER ADJUSTMENT AT THE END OF THE APRIL WAS NEGATIVE $8.

PER 1,000 KILOWATT HOUR AS REPRESENTED BY IF BLUE LINE IN THIS GRAPH. WHAT IS NOT SHOWN JUNE 1ST TO NEXT 8 TO NEGATIVE 12. ON THE TOP OF THE CHART THE BLUE BAR REPRESENT THE ACTUAL MONEYITRY OVERRE-KYLING THAT DIE SPITE WHAT IT WOULD BE. WE HAVE OUR CORRECT.

THE AND THEY ARE BASED UPON THE DATA PREPARED BY FMPA.

SINCE MARCH FORECAST, FMPA ESTIMATE OF THE COST OF PURCHASE POWER FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING 12 MONTHS INCREASED 1%. THIS GRAPH REPRESENTS COMPARISON OF PROJECT PROJECTION TRENDING POWER PRESS THROUGH APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.

BASED UPON THE CURRENT FORECAST THE $44 DECREASE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT JUNE WITH LOWER COST THROUGH OCTOBER.

ALLOW FPLA TO GIVE BACK THE CUSTOMER PCA.

LOWER PCA AS COST ARE PROJECTED TO INCREASE IN THE FALL AND INTO THE WINTER MONTHS, THAT OVER RECOVERY WILL FALL OFF. AND I WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE WERE SEE MOVING FORWARD.

THE TWO SCENARIOS WE HAVE HERE INCLUDE NEGATIVE $12PCA IN EFFECTED THROUGH THE OWNED OF SEPTEMBER.

GREEN LIE SHEING $4 # INCREASE IN OCTOBER 1ST.

RED LINE SHOWING NO CHANGE AND CONTINUING WITH THE NEGATIVE $12PCA. THE CURRENT FMPA PROJECTION HAVE OUR AVERAGE COST PER 1,000 KILOWATT HOUR AT OR BELOW THE BASE POWER COST THROUGH FEBRUARY OF '22.

>>> WE WILL OF COURSE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE MONTHLY PROJECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM FMPA AND PRESENT THEM TO THE BOARD.

THESE ASSESSMENTS BASED ON THE ASSESSMENTS IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE NO CHANGE TO POWER COST CONTINUING UNTIL THE FORECAST INDICATED THAT THE CHANGES ARE NECESSARY. IF YOU ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD BE

HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. >> NO RECOMMENDATION.

>> WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE GRAPH YET.

>> ANY BOARDMENS? >> I WON'T BE VOTING ON THIS PROBABLY WHEN WE GO TO CHANGE AGAIN.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WOULD REMEMBER THAT IF WE INCREASE THE PCA AMOUNT IN OTHER WORD GO FOR NEGATIVE TWELVE TO NEGATIVE WITH THE 2 FOR THE MONEY OCTOBER THROUGH APRIL, WHEN PEOPLE USE A WHOLE LOT LET'S KILOWATT HOURS. SO THEY WILL NOT FEEL IT MUCH IN THEIR BILLS. IT'S SHARING THE PAIN WITH EVERYBODY WHO IS DOWN HERE FOR THE WINTER.

AND THEN WE BUILD THE NUMBER BACK UP THE OVER RECOVERY BACK UP TO 4 TO 5 MILLION IN IN THE SUMMER THE BURN IS ABLE AND REDUCE IT AGAIN BACK TO NEGATIVE 12 OR DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COST ARE OF COURSE. I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU WOULD KEEP LOOKING AT THIS GRAPH AND YOU LOOK AT THE MONTHS, OCTOBER THROUGH APRIL OR REALLY APRIL.

IT CAN GET BUILT UP EVERY YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO HELP RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE YEAR-ROUND.

THAT'S MY OPINION. IF THERE'S ADJUSTMENT YOU MADE OCTOBERER 1ST IT WILL BE PRESENTED IN SEPTEMBER.

>> MAYBE YOU DO GRADUAL. NOVEMBER YOU DO THE BIG ONES.

THAT'S WHEN THE AMOUNT OF KILOWATT HOURS DROPS OFF

DRASTICALLY. >> THE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PROBABLY DURING THOSE MONTHS WHEN YOU HAVE A SLOW DAY YOU WOULD WORK ON SOME SORT OF SAVINGS.

>> WE KIND OF DO THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET.

>> BE BLEND IT IN THE BUDGET. >> YOU WILL BE HERE UNTIL THE

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>> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.

>> ONE OTHER QUICK ITEM, JUST A NOTE LISTENED IN ON THE FMPA RATE CALL WHICH I HAVE EVERY MONTH.

AND FORWARD CURVE FOR GAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN HAD ORIGINALLY EXPECT. GAS IS RUNNING ABOUT 18% HIGHER THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

POTENTIALLY WE MAY NEED TO DO SOMETHING EARLIER THAN OCTOBER. WE'LL SEE HOW IT PANS OUT.

>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD?

>> BARBARA, THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM UPDATE ON THE

[G.4. FPUA Claim Policy Update 2021 – For Information Only]

PRESENTATION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AS SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER WE DID A VERSION OF WHEN WE REDID THE BOIL IN 2018.

THIS REVIEW AND UPDATE ON WHAT THE BOARD ALREADY -- WHAT MOST OF THE MEMBERS HAVE SEEN. SOME HAVEN'T.

AND THIS WILL BE QUICK AND PAINLESS.

>> THE GOALS OF OUR CLAIMS POLICIES TO PROVIDE A CLEAR SET OF GUIDELINES FOR HOW FPUA INVESTIGATES, REVIEWS.

TRACKS AND RESULTS CLAIMS. OUR DEPARTMENT REVIEW AND REVIEWED INTERNALLY. FROM THERE IF THEY ARE NOT RESULTED INTERNALLY, ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO GET THEM RESOLVED WITHIN THE SIX TO 90-DAY PERIOD.

THAT'S BASED ON US SENDING THEM OFF TO INSURANCE CARRIER IF THEY NEED TO REVIEW THEM. AND THEN BASED ON ANALYSIS AND THAT TAKES HOW LONG IT TAKES. THEY SOMETIMES REQUEST THE INFORMATION FROM US. THAT'S A BACK AND FORTH WITH US. THEN YOU KNOW, AS THE BOARD IS AWARE CLAIMS ARE EVALUATED ON CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

IT'S ALWAYS BASED ON THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. AGAIN I SAID OUR CLAIM POLICY DRIVEN BY RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR UTILITY SERVICE. AND WHAT I HAVE ON THEIR IN FRONT OF YOU SECTION 2. UA RESOLUTION UA-2009-2013 SECTION 2 AND SUBSECTION D-4. THE UA SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR COMPLETE OR PARTIAL FAILURE OR INTERRUPTION OF UTILITY SERVICE OR FLUCTUATIONS IN ELECTRICAL VOLTAGE.

LOW WATER OR GAS PRESSURE RESULTED FROM CAUSES BEYOND OUR CONTROL. IN TERMINGS OF PROCEDURES RIOTS STRAIGHT FORWARD. WE HAVE INCIDENT.

CUSTOMERS EITHER THERE OR THEY CALL IN.

WE GIVE THEM A CLAIM CARD. WE CAN E-MAIL THAT OR PICK THEM UP. WE CAN MAIL IT OUT TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO. THAT CLAIM CARD INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. AND I'VE CUT AND ANTICIPATIONED THE KEY PIECE BASED ON CONTINUITY OF SERVICE SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT LIABLE FOR THINGS BEYOND OUR CONTROL AND THEN LISTED OUT SERIES. THIS IS IN CLAIM CARD.

LISTED OUT THINGS THAT WOULD BE BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

AGAIN I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM TO YOU.

THEY ARE ALL THE SAME OBVIOUS ARE THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF EVENTS THAT HAPPEN. SUCH AS ACCIDENTS EQUIPMENT FAILURE, BREAKDOWNS, FLUCTUATIONS.

VANDALISM. THINGS LIKE THAT.

PEOPLE DRIVING INTO UTILITY POLES.

WHICH SEEMS TO BE WEEKEND ACTIVITY.

AND THEN I'VE INCLUDED THE SAME NOTE INCLUDED ON THE CLAIM CARD. CUSTOMER WANT TO CONSIDER FILING A CLAIM WITH THEIR OWN INSURANCE CARRIER.

FOR EXAMPLE IF IT'S A BUSINESS THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING CALLED BUSINESS INTERRUPT COVERAGE WHICH WOULD PAY THEM FOR THIS TYPE OF CLAIM. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH US. THEIR INSURANCE CARRIER WILL GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH OURS.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER. IT'S THE SAME FOR US.AY WE ENDE SAME INVESTIGATION. THAT CLAIMANT OR CUSTOMER YOU KNOW WOULD BE GETTING PAID MORE QUICKLY.

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SOME PHOTOS IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE AND ANY QUOTES OR INVOICES FOR ANY REPAIRS OR REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT OF LOSSES THEY HAD. ONCE WE RECEIVED THAT YOU AGAIN THEY CAN BE THEY CAN BE SUBA LITTLE BITTED BY PHONE OR MAIL OR E-MAIL OR BY HAND GENERALLY WE HAVE TO GET DOCUMENT. E-MAIL OR WRITTEN DOCUMENTS ARE THE BEST. ONCE WE U.S. IT.

WE LOG IT. YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS THE DATE. AND THEN IT'S PUT ON TO WHAT WE CALL A CLAIM REPORT WHICH IS THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT.

THAT SENT OUT TO DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPARTMENT DOES AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE.

ONCE THE DEPARTMENT REVIEW IT'S REVIEWED INTERNALLY ADDITIONALLY BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD.

SYSTEM DIRECTOR. MYSELF THE DIRECTOR OF REGULATORY AFFAIRS AND DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES.

ONCE WE -- EVERYONE HAS SIGNED OFF ON THE CLAIM, SOME CLAIM WILL BE SETTLED INTERNALLY PER OUR POLICY FROM 2018.

IF IT'S UNDER $5,000 THEN THERE'S NO PHYSICAL PERMANENT INJURY. WE CAN RESOLVE THOSE INTERNALLY. THOSE ARE CLAIMS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN ONE OF THE GUY WITH TRUCK BACKS INTO THEIR CAR OR FENCE, OR WE'RE WELL AWARE WE WERE AT FAULT FOR THE INCIDENT. YOU KNOW THEN WE'LL SETTLE THAT CLAIM WITHOUT SENDING IT OFF TO INSURANCE CARRIER.

WE DON'T HAVE A NEED TO SEND IT TO THEM.

JUST TO PAY WITHIN OUR DEDUCTIBLE WHICH IS GENERALLY $25,000 ANYWAYS. WE'LL SETTLE THOSE.

WE REQUIRE SIGNED RELEASE AND ANALYSIS THAT WE DETERMINED.

IF IT'S NOT RESOLVED THE CLAIM SENT TO FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, FOR THOSE NOT AWARE THE COMPANY THAT ACTS AS INSURANCE CARRIER THROUGH THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL INSURANCE TRUST. AND THEN THEY MAKE A REVIEW AND FIND OUT THE DETERMINATION.

AGAIN ANY CLAIM WITH PERSONAL INJURIES HAVE TO BE SENT TO THEM ONLY IF ONLY A SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT THE PERSON IS CLAIMING. THAT'S REALLY THE OVERVIEW OF OUR POLICY. CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE FOUR OPEN CLAIMS. CURRENTLY WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD NUMBER, ACTUALLY. WE HAVE ONE OR TWO LITIGATION CASES. MOST OF THOSE LOOK LIKE THEY WILL GET SETTLED IN THE NEXT FEW -- FEW YEARS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF.

>> ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A QUESTION?

>> I HAVE TWO CONCERNS. AT OUR LAST MEETING LAST MEETING WE HAD HERE, DID HAVE SOMEONE FROM SMALL BUSINESS COME AND PRESENT THREE MINUTES OF CONVERSATION TO US THAT PERSON COULD HAVE CALLED STAFF PERSON OR YOU AND GOT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING RATHER THAN TO HAVE COME TO BOARD.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPIY TO

ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS. >> MY OTHER CONCERN.

YOU TURN THE SCREEN BACK ON. ROLL THE SCREEN BACK A LITTLE BIT. CAN -- FLORIDA LEAGUE CITIES CAN THAT PERSON BYPASS YOU AND GOT STRAIGHT TO FLORIDA LEAGUE

OF CITIES? >> THEY CAN.

I WOULD TRIGGER THE SAME CLAIM PROCESS IN REVERSE.

TALKING ANY BUSINESS PERSON. IF THEY BYPASS US AND GO TO FLORIDA LEAGUE. THEY WOULD BE DIRECTED TO OUTSIDE OR GIVE THEM A CLAIM NONE AND SUN AISZ E-MAIL.

PLEASE INVESTIGATION. GIVE US THE ROOT CAUSE THEN WE REACH OUT AND GO THROUGH THE PROEHL ON IN THE BLIND OF SOMEONE GOT A CLAIM AND THEN BYPASSED WHAT WE COULD AT LEAST HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL.

ANYBODY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IT IS.

>> INSURVEYABLY IF SOMEONE CONTACTED THE LEAGUE OF CITY DIRECTLY. THEY WOULD GIVE US THE CLAIM NUMBER. 9WE WOULD BE IN THE SAME PROCESS OF TRACKING DOWN THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CLAIMANT. WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THEM.

>> OF THOSE FOUR YOU GOT LEFT. HAS ANY OF THEM BEEN PASSED

TWO YEARS? >> NO.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

[G.5. April 2021 Financial Operating Results – For Information Only]

>> THE NEXT ITEM APRIL 2021 FINANCIAL OPERATING RESULTS.

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>> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. GOOD AFTERNOON.

CHAIRMAN MATTHEW, MAYOR HUDSON AND BOARD MEMBERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU TO FINANCIAL OPERATING RESULTS FOR APRIL 2021. THE FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHT FOR THE 7 MONTHS TO DATE FOR 2021 ARE YEAR TO DATE OPERATING REVENUES THROUGH APRIL OF 57 MILLION BROUGHT INCREASE OF 1.5 MILLION OVER THE SAME PERIOD IN 2020.

OPERATING EXPENSES INCREASE OVER LAST FISCAL YEAR BY 1.3 MILLION. DUE TO INCREASES IN THE PURCHASES FOR RESALE. DEPRECIATION EXPENSE.

BAD DEBT AND UTILITY EXPENSE. COMBINED EFFECTIVE THE INCREASE IN REVENUE AND EXPENSE BROUGHT OVERALL IN YEAR TO DATE OPERATING REVENUE OF 157,000.

CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION FOR THE FIRST 7 MONTHS OF 2021 WERE GREATER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR BY 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT CAME IN THE FORM OF WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT CHARGES AND SOME NONCASH CONTRIBUTION FROM DEVELOPERS. THE DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY WAS PAID IN APRIL. AND AFTER ADJUSTING FOR THE FIVE MONTHS OF EXPENSE, FOR OUR YEAR TO DATE, IF WE WERE YEAR TO DATE OUR NET POSITION WAS 2.1 MILLION DOLLARS.

OUR ELECTRIC OPERATING REVENUE LESS THE COST OF POWER AND COMPARISON TO CONSUMPTION. THIS IS THREE-YEAR COMPARISON.

FISCAL YEAR '20 ADJUSTED REVENUE AND CONSUMPTION WAS BASICALLY FLAT COMPARED TO 2019.

IN THE CURRENT YEAR TO DATE THE CONSUMPTION UP BY 2%.

ONE COMPARED TO SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR.

WITH REVENUES HIGHER IN COMPARISON BY 1%.

THE COST OF PURCHASE POWER IN FISCAL YEAR 20, 1.7 MILLION OVER 2019. AND THIS YEAR THE COST OF COMPARISON FOR ELECTRIC PURCHASES FOR RESALE YEAR TO DAY SHOW INCREASE OF 190,000. LOWER THAN 2019 BUT CREEPING BACK UP. WATER OPERATING REVENUE AND CONSUMPTION. THE FISCAL YEAR '20 WATER SERVICE BILL AND REVENUE WERE UP NICELY FROM 2019 WITH STEADY INCREASE IN UNIT SALES OF FIVE% AND REVENUES O.

FISCAL YEAR '21 YEAR TO DATE SERVICE BILLED AND OPERATING REVENUE CONTINUE TO TREND UP WITH CONSUMPTION HIGHER BY 4%.

AND OPERATING REVENUES UP BY 5%.

WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

OPERATING REVENUE AND GALLON WE HAVE BILLED.

TAKING A LOOK AT WASTEWATER OPERATING REVENUE.

WHILE GALLON BILL INCREASE SLIGHTLY IN 2002 THEIR REVENUES FELT SHORE. THE 7 MONTHS TO DAY INCREASE NICELY ABILITY 7% BY 414,000, WHICH WAS 5% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR. OUR NATURAL GAS REVENUE LESS THE COST OF PURCHASE GAS, ALONG THE CONSUMPTION SHOWS A SMALL INCREASE IN ADJUSTED REVENUE ANOTHER 2% AND SIMILAR INCREASE IN CONSUMPTION OF BE% FROM THE PRIOR YEAR IN 2019.

AND THAT WAS MOSTLY IN GENERAL SERVICE SALES.

IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, 2021 REVENUES AND CONSUMPTION

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THE COST OF GAS WE EXPERIENCE A 7% SAVING OF COST PURCHASE GAS IN 2020. COMPARED 2019.

ABOUT 260,000. AND THE COST OF GAS PURCHASED TORE FIRST MONEYEST WHICH IS 244,000 OR 12% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. OPERATING INCOME AND DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE THE RATIO OF THE 12-MONTHS AVERAGE OF NET AVAILABLE INCOME TO OUR CURRENT DENT SERVICE.

FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING SEPTEMBER WE WERE THREE I'MS. WE'RE WITHIN THE BOND COVENANT.

THIS SIMILAR IS FOR YOUR INFORMATION ONLY.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

THEM. >> ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE A

QUESTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> I WAS REVIEWING THE ELECTRIC STATISTIC.

YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT. MAYBE I WASN'T REALIZE THE CORRELATION. LAST YEAR FOR CURRENT MONTH WAS 46,000. AND THEN WE'RE AT 41,900.

I DON'T KNOW I WAS CURIOUS. IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG JUMP FOR I'M SURE THERE'S SOME BIG ANOMALY.

MAYBE THE PAY OUT TO THE CITY. >> JUST CONSUMPTION WAS DOWN.

INTERESTING. >>

>> HAS NORTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY.

>> OKAY. IT WASN'T SURE.

LAST YEAR WAS COVID. MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WERE HOME.

WHAT DID 2019 LOOK LIKE? >> MAYBE IF THAT WOULD BETTER

NUMBER. >> I COULD GET YOU THAT

INFORMATION. >> OR FOR THE CURRENT MONTH.

I COULD GET THAT. >> APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM BILL

[G.6. Bill Comparisons for the Month of April 2021 – For Information Only]

>> THAT'S A POSITION YOU CAN'T GO WRONG.

THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. CHAIRMAN MATTHEWS, MAYOR HUD SOB AND BOARD MEMBER. I PRESENT THE MONTHLY UPDATE OF COMPARISON ELECTRIC RATE PUBLISHED BY FMEA AND TREASURE COAST FOR APRIL. THIS FIRST GRAPH SHOWS THE COMPARISON OF RESIDENTIAL ELECTRIC BILLS FOR 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS OF CON SHUM. THEY ARE OUR APRIL RATE 108.84 # AND THEY ARE SHOWN WITH YELLOW BAR.

AND WE ARE FIFTH LOWEST IN THIS GROUP.

THIS GRAPH DISPLAYS THE SAME COMPARISON FOR LEVEL OF CONSUMPTION BUT INCLUDE THE MUNICIPAL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. APRIL BILL RANKS 30 LOWEST.

THE BLUE BAR REPRESENT OUR RATE WITH THE JUNE APPROVED ADJUST TO PCA. IN APRIL WHILE WE MAINTAINED OUR RATE FOR ANOTHER MONTHS. 15 OF THE OTHER 31 HUGE UTILITY IMPLEMENTED RATE CHANGES.

THIS HAD A VERY THE ARC AVERAGE JUST IN.

FFLA RATE FLA BOW ALTHOUGH ALL THREE AVERAGE.

THIS GRAPH ALSO SIMILAR COMPARISON FOR CONSUMPTION OF 2500 KILOWATT HOURS. APRIL BILL AT 274.80 KEEP US IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS GROUP LIKE LAST MONTH.

OUR RATE ALSO FOR 2500 KILOWATT HOURS WE'RE STILL BELOW ALL THREE AVERAGES HERE AS WELL.

THE TABLE APRIL COMPARISON OF AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY

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HOUFSH NEXT MONTH WE INCREASE LIE WE HAD GREAT RAISE INCREASES FOR MAY. THIS ITEM PRESENTED FOR INFORMATION ONLY BUT IT WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANY BOARD MEMBER?

>> MICHELLE, I HAVE ONE BEFORE YOU GO.

BACK IT UP UP. .

THAT'S THE VERO BEACH THE INSIDE -- THE INSIDE CITY.

CITY OF VERO BEACH. THAT'S BY FP&L.

>> OKAY. >> I THOUGHT FP&L -- I THOUGHT FLORIDA POWER DID TAKE OVER IF OPERATION.

>> THAT'S THEIR RATES. >>

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

FLUCH >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[G.7. WRF Relocation – Discussion on Public - Private Partnership (P3) – For Information Only]

CITY COMMISSION REQUESTED A JOINT MEETING WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT TUESDAY JUNE 22ND.

AT THE SUNRISE CENTER THIRD FLOOR BILL TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL. I SENT YOU A DETAILED MEMO WHICH WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

LET ME SUMMARIZE THOSED RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.

FIRST RECOMMENDATION TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THE CONCEPT AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. WHICH IS PRESENTATION YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION PROCEED WITH THE CITY COMMISSION TO SOLICIT THEIR THOUGHT AND PROCEEDING WITH THE P-3 AS PARALLEL PATH TO ESTABLISHED PLAN. BLIMENT THAT MEETING TO P-3 CONCEPT. AND NOT DETAILED REVIEW OR PRESENTATION OF THE EQUALITY PROPOSAL.

THIRD RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ENGAGE WITH OUR PARTIES OF THE

COUNTY >> AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION, I WILL ASKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION ON THE FOLLOWING. NUMBER ONE DO YOU WISH STAFF TO PURSUE A P-3 AS PARALLEL PATH.

TWO IF SO WHICH PARAMETER ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU SO WE CAN INCLUDE THEM. THREE IF YOU DO YOU WISH TO HEAR PROPOSE AFFILIATE OF NEXT WEEK'S MEETING OR LIMIT THE DISCUSSION JUST ON GENERAL SUBJECT P-3.

FOR THE REASON STATED IN MY MEMO OF MAY 28TH.

YOUR SOLE ZRUGS THE BOARD HOW YOU WISH.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BEAU. >> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK.

GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN. BEBS OF THE BOARD.

TODAY I'M GOING TO GIVE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT A P-3 IS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES IN THERE. EQUALITY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER 3-P. WE WILL TALK ABOUT REQUIREMENTS. THEN WE HAVE A FEW BULLET POINTS OF STAFF PUT TOGETHER IS THAT CAN ASSIST IN GOING FORWARD IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD THE 3-P CONCEPT.

FIRST OFF WHAT IS P-3. DEFINES CRACK ACTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN PUBLIC AGENCY FEDERAL STATE OR LOCAL AND PRIVATE SECTOR ENTITY. THE SKILLS AND ASSETS OF EACH SECTOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ARE SHARED IN DELIVERING A SERVICE FOR FACILITY FOR THE USE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND

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BUT VERY COMMON HERE'S HERE AS WELL.

HERE'S A VIEW EXAMPLE. HIGHWAY LIKE TOLL ROADS AIRPORT A LOT OF AIRPORT BUILT WITH 3-P.

PRISONS HAVE BEEN PRIVATIZED. STADIUMS. OF COURSE WATER AND WAGS WATER FACILITIES.

PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THESE HAVE A FEW THINGS IN COMMON.

FOR ONE THEY ARE VERY LARGE PROJECTS.

THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND THEY ARE VERY COMPLICATED.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT KIND OF DRIVES THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY TO BE INNERED THESE. THIS GRAPHIC SHOW FROM TOTALLY PUBLIC INTEREST ALL THE WAY OVER TO TOTALLY PRIVATE INTEREST. IF WE START AT THE LEFT THAT'S GOVERNMENT. THAT'S US OWNING IT DESIGNING AND DOING EVERYTHING OURSELVES.

TAKE ONE STEP OF THE STARS THERE.

AND YOU WE USED OVER THE YEAR TO ACCOMPLISH PROJECT.

AS WE KEEP MOVING FURTHER TO THE RIGHT, WE ADD MORE AND MORE PRIVATE INVOLVEMENT IN IT.

THERE IN CAN MIDDLE OF YOU DESIGN BUILD FINANCE.

THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY OWNS WHAT THE FACILITY IS.

YOU TAKE ONE MORE STEP TO THE RIGHT THIS SEEMS TO BE COMMON MODEL FOR 3-P. THIS WHERE THEY WOULD DESIGN, BUILD FINANCE, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN AND OWN THE ASSETS FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS. THEN TURN IT BACK OVER TO MUNICIPALITY. ARE ACCELERATED TIME OF CONSTRUCTION. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD ARGUE WITH ME THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN BUILD THINGS FASTER THAN WE CAN. IT'S A SIMPLE FACT.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE MANAGEMENT AND OVERHEAD WHICH AGAIN SAVES TIME. 3-P BRING THEIR OWN CONSULTANT, ENGINEERS. ACCOUNTANTS.

LOBBYIST. THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE TIME.

YOU CAN POTENTIALLY DELL GAILT MORE OF THE RISK TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. AND SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A COMMON THEME FROM SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT WE'VE SPOKE WITH THE ABILITY DP AND SEE IF YOU COULD SEE THE WASTEWATER PLANT SITS ON TO OFF SET THE CONSTRUCTION AND OR DEBT SERVICE COST. FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

IF THEY CHOOSE TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S 1078 PISS FALLS AS WELL.

CONFLICT OF PRIORITIES. PRINCIPAL HIRES AGENT TO ACT AS BEST INTEREST THE AGENT HAS CONFLICTING AGENT INFORMATION WHEN THE AGENT BETTER INFORMED THAN THE PRINCIPLE POTENTIALLY CAUSE CONFLICT THERE WITH FINGER POINTS.

WHEN THEY TAKE RISK BECAUSE THE OTHER PARTY BARES THE BURDEN AND SEPARATION OF OWNERSHIP AND DECISION MAKING RIGHTS THAT WILL TYPICALLY CAUSE CONFLICT AS WELL.

AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE. YOU UNDER UP WITH DETAILS CONTRACT THAT CAN CERTAINLY HELP MITIGATE FOR A LOT OF THIS. YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES WITH DIFFERENT GOALS THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF GIVE AND TAKE THERE.

IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. >> UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL.

THE BOARD IS FAMILIAR WITH EQUALITY.

MR. TOMPECK AND MR. GENG AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH ANOTHER ATLANTIC. THERE'S SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT. I JUST PUT THESE UP AS COUPLE OF EXAMPLE TO PRESENTD TO BOARD THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF SKINNING THIS PARTICULAR CAT.

THEIR MAIN PROFIT SOURCE GOING TO WARD ATLANTIC WOULD PROFIT MORE FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY REALLY NOT INTERESTED IN OWNING AND OPERATING A WASTEWATER PLANT. AS THE MEANS TO AN END.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE.

BOTH AGENCIES CAN BRING FINANCING TO BARE.

THERE'S MANY TO BE MADE FROM FINANCING.

THEY CAN EQUALITY PROPOSE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WELL MIGHT BE THE NEXT THING THE NEXT GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. WE DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S A POTENTIAL WITH THE DEP THEY WOULD O OR WOULD NOT.

I DON'T KNOW. I XNT SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO

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AND ATLANTIC WOULD IMMEDIATELY TURN THE PLANT OVER TO US TO OWN AND OPERATE AS SOON AS COMPLETED.

EQUALIA WILL LEVERAGE CASH RESERVE AND USE TAX INCOME TO HELP OFF SET THE DEBT. ATLANTIC PARTNERS PROPOSE TO CONTRIBUTE SOME OF THE MONEY FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY TO HELP OFF SET THE COST OF THE PLANT.

AND ALSO JUST LIKE UQUALIA LOOKS FOR TAX IMPLICATIONS THERE TO HELP AS WELL. I HAVE ADVERTISED ON BOTH OF THESE. I WILL JUST BRING UP IF WE GO DOWN THE PATH OF ACCEPTING UQALIA PROPOSAL THEIR STATUTE THAT REQUIRE US TO ADVERTISE THAT.

NOTHING WE DO IN A BUBBLE. THERE'S A LOT OF P-3 COMPANIES AND ALSO AS WE SEE INTERNATIONALLY, WE COULD VERY WELL GET A LOT OF THAT STYLE. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE, IF WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE ATLANTIC, ATLANTIC DOES NOT WANT TO SUBMIT AN US SOLICITED PROPOSAL. THEY ARE JUST ASKING THAT WE PUT THIS OUT FOR AN RFP IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THE 3-P CONCEPT IN GENERAL. AND IN THAT CASE THERE'S ADVERTISING STATUTES AS WELL. WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO FIND SOMETHING THAT FITS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT AND EXACTLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT WITH OUR PARTICULAR SITUATION.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHERE WE ARE NOW.

PLAN A AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE PARTNERSHIP WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY. CURRENTLY ON SECOND ITERATION TO OUTLINE THE GOVERNANCE POTENTIAL GOVERNANCE OF THIS NEW PLANT. THAT'S WITH THE COUNTY NOW WE'RE EXPECTING COMMENTS BACK ON THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. PLAN B TO PROCEED INDEPENDENTLY. THAT'S JUST FPLA DOING WITHOUT ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE WILL ALL KEELS WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

OUR CONSULTANT AND FPLA STAFF AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY STAFF AGREE THE SIZE OF COMBINED SERVICE TERRITORY.

THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO PROVIDE SERVICE BY PARTNERING TOGETHER AND CREATING A SINGLE PLANT.

WE WILL ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP THAT DOOR OPEN.

TO THE END OF PROCEEDING INDEPENDENTLY.

WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT HAZEN TO DO A SIMILAR EVALUATION TO WHAT THEY DID FOR PLAN A BUT FOR PLAN B TO LOOK AT IT IF WE GO ON OUR SEWN WE ALSO DISCUSSED WITH A CONSULTANT TO UPDATE THE END THE DESIGN TO AT LEAST GET TO ABOUT 60% LEVEL.

THE IMPORTANT PART OF -- WELL, THERE'S A FEW IMPORTANT PARTS.

THE ONE IS IF WE GET TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND NEW FINANCIAL ANALYSIS DONE AS WELL.

THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TO GO START LOOKING FOR GRANT MONEY.

FROM BOTH THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

ANIATION TO THAT IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATED WE'RE ALL PRETTY CONVINCED THE COST OF THE PLANT WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. THERE'S A LARGE CONTINGENCY.

WHICH THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. THAT'S THAT WE ASKED FOR.

STAY VERY HIGH LEVEL. THAT COULD POTENTIALABLY BRING THE COST DOWN TOO. THE LANDSCAPE WILL LOOK DIFFERENT IF WE GET A GRANT. 25 MILLION OR 50 MILLION GRANT. THAT WILL GET THE PROJECT MOVING IN A HOURY. WE NEED TO GET NEXT LEVEL OF INFORMATION. PLAN C IS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. AGAIN, WE WILL ALWAYS KEEP THAT DOOR OPEN FOR THE WE DENY WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT THE 3-P STRUCTURE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THE FPLA RATE PAYERS AND FOR THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE.

THIS WOULD REQUIRE TO US BRING LESS SOLUTION TO THE BOARD.

THAT WILL GIVEN A OUTLINE OF THE RULES.

TO BRING IN. THEN WE WOULD DRAFT REQUEST TORE PROPOSAL TO PUT OUT ON THE STREET.

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AND THEN THERE'S MANY OTHER PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTINGS THAT EL WE ALSO HAVE TO MEET. WE HAVE STATE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS. STATE STATUE 255 AUTHORIZES MUNICIPALITIES INTO ENTER INTO THE PROJECT.

THE STATE STATUTE INCLUDE HOW 3-P PROJECT ARE PROCURED.

QUALIFIED. APPROVED AND FINANCED.

THEY REQUIRE COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT.

THERE'S MULTIPLE BULLET POINT SPECIFICALLY THAT NEED TO BE IN THE AGREEMENT IT ALSO OUTLINES THE BY CHARTER FPLA WOULD BE THAT RESPONSIBLE PUBLIC ENTITY THAT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO 3-P CONTRACT.

WE HAVE OTHERED FPUA PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENT WE MUST FOLLOW AS WELL. REQ REQUIRES EL COMPREHENSIVE SOLICITATION.

AND IT WOULD CONTAIN DESIGN SPE SPECIFICS SCOPE FOR THE PROJECT.

IT NEEDS TO BE ANNOUNCED. ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE THE ENGINEER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS COVERED UNDER ARTICLE II 87 OF CC AND A WHERE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WHO WILL BE THE EOR OF THE RECORD, MUST BE PREQUALIFIED. ALSO ARTICLE II -- ARTICLE 255 REQUIRES THEY ARE EVALUATED BY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND THE ENGINEER MANAGES THIS THROUGH THE CURSE OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. EVEN IF IT'S 3-P OR DESIGN BILL WE WANT BOOTS ON THE GROUND THE ENTIRE SOMETIME.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW BULLET POINT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE LOOK AT. WE WILL LOOK FOR YOU DIRECTION. WE WILL LOOK FOR ELEMENT THAT LOOKS REUTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY.

WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DELEGATING THE RISK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OVER TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

ALSO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A POTENTIAL ACCELERATED TIME LINE THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR MAY BE ABLE TO OFFER.

THE FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT WOULD NEED TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO OURSELVES.

WE ARE A VERY STRONG FINANCIAL INSTITUTE.

WE'RES A TO WE DIDN'T WANT TO PAY MUCH MORE FLN FP WL A WOULD OVERSEE CONSTRUCTION. THAT WOULD BE COMBINATION OF STAFF AND SPECIFIC CONSULTANT THEY WOULD OWN AND OPERATE THE NEW FACILITY AND WHEN WE START GOING THROUGH THIS STARTING WITH THE RFP TO EVALUATIONS TO BASICALLY EVERYTHING HERE IT'S VERY WISE TO GET A CONSULTANT, A SPECIFIC CONSULTANT TO HELP

US WITH THIS P-3 PROCESS. >> IN CONCLUSION, P-3 ARE NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL. WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC.

P-3 DON'T GENERATE RESOURCES. THEY ARE SIMPLY A PROJECT DELIVERY TOOL. THEY CAN'T POTENTIALLY ALLOW US TO SHIFT RICKS. CLERT PROJECT AND THEY BRING EFFICIENCY TO THE TABLE. THEY CAN HELP US ACCESS DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAPITAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY THE BEST FOR US. IT MAY BE.

AND WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE P-3 NEEDS TO FIX WHAT WE NEED IT TO BE. MR. TOMPECK, IS THERE ANYTHING

I MESSED? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

SOMEONE LIKE TO THROW OPEN TO DISCUSSION AND SEE WHAT YOUR

DIRECTION MAY BE? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ON THE EQUALITY VERSES ATLANTIC COME PATIENTSON; WHERE IT SAYS LEVERAGE CASH RESERVE. ARE THEY LEVERAGING OUR CASH

RESERVES? >> THAT'S HOW I READ IT.

>> BUT IT WAS NOT SPECIFIC. >> OKAY.

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THEY WOULD BE THE ONES COLLECTING THE MONEY ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OR MAY RUN IT THROUGH US.

THEY WOULD GET THE NET INCOME. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IT WOULD BE OUT SOURCED PROJECT.

THEY WOULD DO THE BILLS AND SUCH.

AND THERE WOULD BE A RATE THAT WE WOULD PAY PROBABLY PER 1 MILLION TO TREAT THE WASTE. TO DEAL WITH IT ON THE BACKSIDE. IT WOULD BE A SPLIT.

THERE'S A PORTION OF THE RATE THAT WOULD HANDLE THE COLLECTION AND THE OVERHEAD AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO RUNNING THE WASTEWATER SERVICE.

THE PLANT COST ITSELF WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE P-3.

>> THEN I GO BACK TO WHAT BARBARA PRESENTED.

AND FOR LAST YEAR, FOR ENDING IN APRIL, OUR WASTEWATER PLANT MADE 1.7 MILLION. WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY LOSE THAT? OR MOST OF THAT.

>> POTENTIALLY THAT'S A REAL TOUGH ONCE TO ANSWER WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS HOW THEY PLAN TO STRUCTURE IT. THARGS NO INFORMATION WHAT I SAW IN THAT PROPOSAL. THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE WHERE

YOU START TO DELVE INTO IT. >> AND YOU DID READ, THOUGH THEY WOULD LEVERAGE OUR CASH RESERVES.

YES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SPECIFICALLY MEANS THEY WOULD ASK US TO PUT CATCH DIRECTLY INTO THE PROJECT OR IF THEY WOULD WANT TO USE THAT AS SOME SORT OF SECURITY. OR IF THEY MEANT JUST USING THE FINANCIAL SECURITY OF FPLA IN GENERAL.

THE WAY I READ. THEY WEREN'T GETTING INTO THAT LEVEL OF DEDAY. THEY PRB -- THOSE TWO ITEM OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME. BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW WE COULD HAVE A DISASTER WITH OUR BOND COVENANT VIOLATION, POSSIBLY. I LOOK AT 1.7 MILLION THAT WE MADE LAST YEAR. BUILDING A NEW ONE WILL COST MONEY BUT ULTIMATELY THAT MONEY IS PROFIT FOR FPLA.

IT'S PROFIT TO RESIDENTS. >> GOOD POINT.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD TO THAT.

PRIVATE EMPLOYEES. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.

I FEEL LIKE IT NEED TO BE RAN BY OUR PEOPLE.

IN A PERFECT WORLD IT'S SOMETHING SOMETHING TO TREASURE COAST ENERGY CENTER. THEY BUILD BUILT IT.

WE RUN IT. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILED BEHIND THAT. FOR ME THAT'S IMPORTANT KEEP THE PEOPLE WE HAVE WE HAVE THEM WELL TRAINED AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ALSO ABLE TO CONTINUE.

DULY NOTED. ALSO TO ADD.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOURLY EMPLOYEE THAT WORKFORCE PRIVATE COMPANY VERSES SOMEONE WHO IS USE THE TERM LOCKED IN.

THEY ARE COMMITTED. OUR BENEFITS ARE SECOND TO NONE. I PROMISED MR. TOMPECK I WOULDN'T TELL THE STORY. THE EXAMPLE THAT I ALWAYS COME BACK WHEN HURRICANE DORIAN THE ONE THAT TORE THE BAHAMAS UP.

WE HAVE TO FIND PEOPLE TO MANAGE STATION A.

IT FLOODS. IT'S NOT A GREAT PLACE TO RIDE OUT A HURRICANE. YOU PUT IT OUT TO VOLUNTEER.

YOU MAY GET SOME. SOMETIMES YOU DO.

SOMETIMES YOU DON'T. AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE TO SAY YOU'RE ON DUTY. YOU'RE STAYING THERE.

THEY ARE LIKE, OH, I'M LEAVING TOWN WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS.

NO, YOU NEED TO STAY WHEREAS PRIVATE EMPLOYEE MAY BE DROP THE MIC I'M OUT. THAT'S A REAL EXPERIENCE.

THAT'S THE QUALITY OF SERVICE WE GAIN FOR IN MY OPINION WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET WITH PRIVATE ENTITY.

>> I AGREE. I THINK WE WOULD LOSE SOME CONTROL OVER THAT AS WELL. WE COULD BE PREACHING AS LONG AS WE WANT. SOMEONE NEEDS TO STAND OVER THERE AND DO THIS. ULTIMATELY, THEY DON'T WORK

FOR US. >> I HAVE THE BENEFIT FROM

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BECAUSE IT WAS ON OF THE MONEY -- IF OUR EMPLOYEES AREN'T RUN IMAGE I. WHEN GOVERNMENT OUT SOURCES SOMETHING YOU START TO SAY TO YOURSELF ARE THEY GOING TO TREAT THE CITIZENS THE WAY WE WOULD TREAT THEM? THAT'S A NUMBER ONE WORRY THAT I WOULD IS HAVE.

AND SO I CAN ONLY SAY TO YOU THAT THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN HIRING OUR EMPLOYEE. THAT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE.

BY THIS KIND OF THING. I BROUGHT UP WITH THE BENEFITS. WE HAVE GENEROUS BENEFITS IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. AND OH, NO, NO, NO.

I SAID YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE I HAD HEARD OF PRIVATE COMPANY YET THAT MATCHES IT MYSELF.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BENEFIT THIS BOARD TO HEAR. I LOOK AT IT AS UQUALIA MAKING A PRESENTATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MISS CAVALCANTE ASKED. EVERYONE ASKS THE QUESTION.

IN PRO CREST YOU GATHER INFORMATION.

YOU DON'T OFF A RING THAT DAY TO GET MARRIED.

IT'S YOU KNOW GETTING INFORMATION AND UPSING.

YOUR PRESENTATION IS EXCELLENT.

BUT IT'S STILL. THIS IS COMPLICATED THING THAT AND THAT WE NEED TO LEARN ABOUT.

I THINK DISCUSSING SIT A GOOD IDEA.

WHAT IT MEANS. AND I'M NOT SURE THESE COMPARISONS ARE EXACTLY ACKRALT.

BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THEM.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY EDUCATIONAL FOR THIS BOARD TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLICATED THING.

AND IT -- WE WON'T UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT IS P-3 AND HOW DOES I WORK.

AS YOU SAID YOURSELF IT'S VERY COMPLEX.

SOME OF THESE THINGS WOULD I THINK -- UQALIA WOULD SHED MORE LIGHT. THAT'S THE INITIAL HERE'S WHAT I BRING I TO THE TABLE. YOU KNOW IF YOUR EXPERIENCE PEOPLE CAN SAY HERE'S WHAT WE PROPOSE.

CAN WE NEGOTIATION AND SIX MONTHS LATER THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS. WE WOULD HAVE TO BE TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THEY DON'T OWN IT FOR 30 YEARS.

THEY TURN OVER THE KEYS TO IT'S ALWAYS HOURS.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN EDUCATION FOR THAT DAY. IT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM DOING ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU SAID WHICH IS PUT OUT THE RFP. THEY COULD RESPOND TO IT.

ATLANTIC -- I KNOW I GET THE CALL FROM ANOTHER GUY IN JUPITER WHO WANTS TO TO HAVE A CRACK AT THIS.

I THINK WE WOULD CUT OFF OUR OWN EDUCATION IF WE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO PRESENT. I LEARNED A LOT THAT DAY

MYSELF. >> SHOULDN'T ALL OF THEM -- ON AUDIT WHEN YOU GO TO BID FOR AN AUDIT.

SHOULDN'T YOU PUT OUT AN RFP AND ALL OF THEM APPLY UQUALIA CAN STILL APPLY. IT'S IN EDUCATION.

THEY ARE JUST WILLING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION BUT YOU ARE NOT EXPECTED. AT LEAST I DON'T INTEND DO MAKE A DECISION THAT DAY. IS INFORMATION GATHERING AS

FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. >> I ASKED OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

WILL WE CUT THEM OFF IF WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION? IF THEY WILLING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO. AND THEN IF THEY KNOW WE HAVE

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I THINK IT'S INFORMATION GATHERING MYSELF.

AS LONG AS WE DON'T QUOTES UNQUOTE.

ACCEPT THE UNSOLICITED VOTE. WE WILL NOT DISQUALIFY THEM.

WE'RE FINALLY HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

YOU GO BACK TO 201 AND 2019 STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION AND P-3'S WERE IN THERE. IS

>> OR EXCLUDE ANYONE. >> I WILL -- FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO CLEAR SOMETHING. YOU SAID 50,000 WILL GIVE US.

WE GOT THAT MUCH IN GRANTS? >> NO, SIR.

THAT WAS JUST THROWING OUT 9HYPOTHETICAL IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET 50 MILLION. 50 MILLION OFF THE TOP OF THE PROJECT. BETWEEN THESE TWO COMPANY HERE WHERE IS THE SUCCESS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE?

>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE TOO MANY GOOD EXAMPLES AS OF YET.

>> MAY I JUMP IN HERE. YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY ARE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. MANY OTHER COUNTRIES.

MAY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. >> ALL IF PROJECT WERE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. THEY HAVE PROJECT IN SOUTH FLORIDA. BUT THEY ARE NOT THIS

PARTICULAR BUSINESS. >> MY NEXT QUESTION HAVE WE HAD LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CITY TO LOOK AT THIS UN UNSLIS UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL.

ON THE LEVEL OF LOOKING HOW FAR ARE WE ABLE TO GO.

AT THIS POINT, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE STATUTE FOR WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO IF WE CROSS THAT LINE AS FAR AS THE ADVERTISING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

>> NEXT QUESTION IS WHO WOULD BE INVITED TO THE MEETING

OTHER THAN THE TWO BOARDS. >> PUBLIC MEETING.

EQUALIA WOULD BE INVITED. WE COULD INVITE ANYONE.

>> MYSTERIOUS ATLANTIC MAY SHOW UP.

WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHO IT IS. ONCE YOU HAD PROPOSAL, THE ONE, THEN YOU DECIDE TO GIVE US SOME SEASONABLE BY BRINGING ANOTHER ONE IN. THAT'S THE IDEA THE MAIN THING I TOLD THEM I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO DISQUALIFY YOU.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS.

WHEN THE RFP GOES OUT FOR THIS.

I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO BID TO THEM PCHLT WE HAD THE OTHER ONE ALTERNATE THE ATLANTIC. WE SHOULD REALLY PRESENT THIS NOT AS IF IT'S SLICED WHITE BREAD BUT COMPLETELY POLAR WAY TO LOOK AT IT. MAY BE A BLEND OF THE TWO.

WE MAY DECIDE THESE ARE THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO US.

THEN WE GET OUR EXPORT INVOLVED.

AND GET THE BLLTHS PULLIT POINTS IN THERE.

THEN GO FORWARD WITH IT. SEE WHAP ANS.

I ASKED THEM WELL OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO WHERE THE PROPERTY ITSELF TO HELP WITH THE COST OF THE PLANT? THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DID. THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT PROPOSE.

WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM GUIDELINES.

WE DIDN'T TELL HIM WHAT WE WANTED.

HOW WILL WE GET WHAT WE WANT? >> WE HAVE A COMPANY IN FLORIDA THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT.

SOME OF THERE PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.

WHAT THEY'VE DONE ALREADY. >> WE WILL ABSOLUTELY SEVEARCH

THEM OUT. >> PENSACOLAS ONE.

>> WE LOOK AT THAT. I'M SURE THERE ARE EXAMPLES

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THAT WILL GIVE US MODELS TO LOOK FOR.

ARE THEY IN THE SAME FINANCIAL SITUATION? ARE THEY SITTING ON VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND.

HUNDREDS OF JOBS ARE SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE RELEASED RIGHT NOW. IF WE CAN FIND APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON WE HAVE FIND MODEL OF THE CONTRACT TO GO WITH.

IF WE DO THAT. WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, HERE IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT P-3 TODAY.

WE NEED TO LOOK WHAT WE CAN DO ON OUR OWN.

THAT'S WHY MR. TOMPECK CALLED THIS PARALLEL PATH.

WE DON'T TRAFFIC EVERYTHING WE DO AND GO FORWARD.

THEN IF WE GET TO POINT WE'RE LIKE, HEY WE CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN COANYWAY. MAYBE.

OR MAYBE IT'S A TURN KEY SOLUTION.

BECAUSE THEY WILL COME RIGHT IN AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S GOING TO CREATE THE MONEY SOONER.

WE WILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE APPLES TO

APPLES. >> NEXT QUESTION MR. TOMPECK, YOU GAVE THE BOARD FOUR RECOMMENDATION OR FIVE.

I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION SOUND LIKE THE BOARD INTERESTED PURSUING P-3 AS PARALLEL PATH. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARAMETERS HERE. AND THOSE INCLUDED SOME OF THOSE IN THE PRESENTATION. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN SOME CONTRIBUTION HERE BECAUSE OUR ORIGINAL PATH FORWARD HERE WITH THE COUNTY DID NOT INCLUDE THE CITY BEING CONTRIBUTOR TO THE PROJECT.

DO YOU WANT TO HEAR EQUALITY PROPOSAL NEXT TUESDAY OR DO YOU WANT TO SIMPLY DISCUSS PARAMETERS OF P-3.

IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN P-3. YOU ARE INTERESTED.

WE WON'T BE DOING THAT. >> I SUGGEST STRONGLY THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THE MEETING. I WON'T HURT TO LEARN.

SECONDLY, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS 3-P TO TRY TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT AND REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD OR BOTH AGENCIES.

>> I THINK. A LOT OF WHAT HAS TO DO WITH -- WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WE CAN REVIEW PROPOSAL.

AND GET OTHER PROPOSALS. WE WILL GET TEN, 15, 20 PROPOSALS AND NONE OF THEM WILL EXACTLY ADDRESS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED TELLMENTS THAT WE WANT. THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS CRITICAL IMPORTANCE. LET'S IDENTIFY THE ELEMENTS THAT WE WANT. TO WE WANT THE OWN THE PLANT.

ARE WE WILLING TO OFF SET THE TAX.

DO WE WANT TO OPERATE THE PLANT.

THAT'S A CRITICAL POSITION WHEN WE MEET WITH THE CITY.

LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH RELOCATION WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE IN THE COUNTY WERE GOING TO HANDLE IT IN TERMS OF THE COST AND THE CITY WASN'T REQUIRED TO DISTRIBUTE AT ALL IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN.

THEY ALL WANT A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY.

THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A PARAMETER THAT CITY COMMISSION HAS TO AGREE TO. YEAH.

WE'RE WILLING TO BE PART OF THIS AND TO CONTRIBUTE THE TAXES OR WHATEVER. THAT'S AN ELEMENT THAT WOULD

BE INCLUDED. >> IF WE TRY TO GO IT ALONE TORE COUNTY. I WOULD ASSUME OUR ABILITY TO GET GRANTS WOULD BE GREAT; CORRECT?

OR NOT? >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT SPECIFICALLY. JUST BECAUSE IT'S A P-3 IT WILL NOT PRECLUDE IT. I KNOW THAT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THERE'S A CHECK IN THE BOX THAT DEFINITELY HELPS.

I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY IF A P-3 VERSES US GOING ALONE WILL

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MAKE DIFFERENCE. >> RIGHT.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE THEM ALL.

MAYBE YOU COME UP WITH PA R PARAMETERS AND BRING THEM BACK

TO BOARD. >> I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THAT MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. WE HAVE GOOD IDEA WHAT WE ARE

INTERESTED IN. >> YOU KNOW THE CITY SHOULD BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

BECAUSE THE CITY -- WE'RE MARRIED.

FPLA AND THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SEPARATE OPERATIONS, WE ARE THE CITY EXISTS IN THE FPLA XAFS BECAUSE OF THE CITY.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AS FPLA AND ACTUALLY WE SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS DECISION MAKING EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S -- I UNDERSTAND HOW THE LAW WORKS.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS BEFORE FOR THE CLEANUP.

THE CLEANUP OF THE KING PLANT. WE HAD THREE SEPARATE ENTITIES, CITY OF FT. PIERCE. WE ALL WERE ALL IN THIS SAME FAMILY. AND SO THE CITY DEFINITELY WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE INITIATED THE JOINT MEETING. BECAUSE WE YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN THE FPLA AND THE COUNTY. SO FAR.

AND OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.

AND INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW IT WILL HELP THE CITY AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE CITY.

I WAS CLEAR THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE VERY GOOD AND I WOULD WANT THEM -- BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMITTED TO OUR CITY AND TO OUR CITY CITIZEN. I WOULDN'T WANT ANY KIND OF OPERATION THAT WASN'T. I THINK THE CITY WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY. I THINK A JOINT MEETING IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL AT THIS POINT.

AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW I'M NOT MARRIED TO EQULIA.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD EDUCATION FOR ALL OF US.

>> I THINK COMMISSIONER KURT OIS JOHNSON PAID THE POINT THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CERTAIN AREA DESIGNATED FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL. WE WILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT DEAL. I THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD IDEA

ON HIS PART. >> I SAY MOVE FORWARD.

>> A COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH COMPANY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP AREAS AND US NOT BEING ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THEM SPECIFICALLY AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

WE MAY NEED SOME PARAMETERS IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP. ALMOST AS IF WE WERE LEADING THEM TO WHAT WE WANTED FROM THEM.

SO THEY COULD HAVE BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IN FOR THE BID. THAT WAS AN RFP PROCESS.

THEY CAME AND DISA PRESENTATION.

>> I REMEMBER THAT. THIS -- THIS TOTALLY

DIFFERENT. >> YOU CAN ASK THEM ANYTHING.

YOU ASK THEM ANYTHING. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT.

AT THIS TIME I WANT TO TAKE THEM -- TAKE HALF OR TAKE NONE. I THINK IT'S WISE FOR US TO

PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. >> THE ONLY REMAINING QUESTION I HAVE THE IF BOARD WANTS TO HEAR EQUALIA PROPOSAL.

YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT THERE.

THE REST WE ARE ALL SET. >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

>> THAT'S THE CONSENSUS. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALSO IF I CAN ADD AGAIN THIS IS JUST A QUICK LIST THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES UP THAT THE BOARD CAN THINK OF OR ANYTHING HERE IF WE CAN WRAP THAT THROUGH MR. TOMPECK AND WE CAN GET THAT ON THE LIST. THERE'S MANY, MANY LITTLE

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>> WANT TO HEAR FROM MY LEGAL. OTHER THAN THAT;

>> THAT WOULD BE WAY DOWN THE LINE.

>> YEAH. >> WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND THEN AFTERWARDS HAVE THE BOTH THE BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION TALK ABOUT WHAT ELEMENTS THEY WANT TO SEE IN A P-3. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> WE NEED THE EDUCATION. THANK YOU.

>> I HOPE YOU WILL BE AT THE MEETING.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S -- IS IT OPTIONAL?

>> YOU'VE BEEN TALKING FOR TWO YEARS.

MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO COME. >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A

PERSONAL LEAVE DAY. >> WE MOVE THE AGENDA.

[L. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS]

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >> JUST ONE OTHER QUICK COMMENT. WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE JULY 20TH BOARD MEETING. SEVERAL OF THE STAFF WILL BE ATTENDING THE FMPA ANNUAL MEETING IN NAPLES.

THIS MEETING WASN'T HELD LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID-19 AND IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO ATTEND, LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL

SET YOU UP. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. MADAM ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE

ANYTHING FOR US. >> NO, THANK YOU.

>> THE BOARD MEMBERS? >> I'M GOOD.

>> SHE'S GOOD. >> WITH THAT ANY MORE DELAYS WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.