Jul 12, 2021 City Commission Budget Workshop

[1. Call to Order]

[a. Presentation of Proposed FY 2021-2022 General Fund Budget, FPRA Budget, and Enterprise Fund Budgets ]

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>> BASED ON THE GRANTS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. REMEMBER LAST FISCAL YEAR WE

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ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? >> MAYBE THIS IS FOR MR. MEMS, 11 NEW POSITIONS. SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD GIVE AS THE JUSTIFICATION

PFOR THOSE NEW POSITIONS: >> THANKFULLY ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE.

SO GOING TO ASK THAT OUR CITY CLERK, TALK ABOUT THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE FOR THE RECORD.

>> START THE TIMER, PLEASE. >> BASICALLY THE RECORDS COORDINATOR POSITION CAME ABOUT DURING MY PERFORMANCE REVIEWS, I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON CHALLENGED ME AS PART OF THE CITY TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE ARE HANDLING ALL OF OUR RECORDS, SEVERAL OFF-SITE PLACES WHERE WE HAVE MOUNTAINS OF PAPER SO WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A GOOD SOLID PLAN TO EITHER DIGITIZE THE RECORDS OR TO DISPOSE OF THE RECORDS.

A LOT OF THEM ARE ELIGIBLE FOR DISPOSAL BUT WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY DEDICATED TO REALLY WORKING WITH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

THIS POSITION IS GOING TO BE HOUSE IN MY OFFICE, WORKING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED HELP IDENTIFYING WHAT THEY NEED TO KEEP AND WHAT CAN GO. MOVING FORWARD TO ELIMINATE THE

AMOUNT OF PAPER THAT WE HAVE. >> SO WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS IT WOULD SEEM TO ME LIKE YOU

ARE JUST INUNDATED WITH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. >> DEFINITELY HELP WITH THAT AS

WELL. >> THE TAXPAYER DOESN'T KNOW WE HAVE THESE MOUNDS OF PAPER.

WE NEED RECORDS MANAGEMENT. I KNOW IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL. I KNOW THAT YOUR OFFICE IS TASKED WITH THAT PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND THAT CAN BE VERY TIME-CONSUMING.

VERY ALSO TASTY IF WE DO NOT DO IT RIGHT. >> ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS IF YOU ARE NOT PROPERLY DISPOSING OF THE RECORDS, EVEN IF THAT TIMELINE HAS PASSED, IF WE HAVE IT WE HAVE TO PRODUCE IT. INEFFICIENCY IN OUR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, HAVING TO DIG THROUGH OLD FILES THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> I KNOW YOU ARE INTO CROSS TRAINING, OTHER TRAINING OTHER THAN THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> FUNDING A POSITION, THE HOW IS HAVE WE ÃAND CLEAR BUDGET IS IT THE HOW PART, HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL

BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. >> WE HAVE ALL OF THAT IN PLACE.

I KNOW FOR OUR OFFICE AT SOME POINT LONG BEFORE ME, THEY HIRED A TEMP AND THEY DIGITIZED ALL OF THE CITY CLERK RECORDS. WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM CALLED FILE BOUND, WE HAVE THAT

TECHNOLOGY. MAKING THE TIME TO DO IT. >> GREAT TO HEAR.

>> LAST WEEK I WAS GOING TO MY VEHICLE, SOMEBODY WAS GOING INTO THAT DEEP DARK CAVE THAT HAD ALL THESE PILES AND I FOLLOWED THE PERSON IN. I WAS AMAZED THERE IS ORGANIZATION THAT IS THERE, FOLKS HAVE GONE IN THERE, DONE SOME WORK AND I THINK THAT IS

IMPORTANT. WE CAPTURE THAT RIGHT NOW. >> SOME ARE ACTUALLY WORKING

FILES. >> IT WAS A PILE LOOK LIKE A HURRICANE JUST CAME THROUGH.

THAT IS HOW IT LOOKED. WHEN I WENT THROUGH, ORGANIZATION, AND SCREAMED OUT THAT IS THE CITY THAT I WANT TO BE A PART OF TO MAKE SURE WE PROMOTE THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAME MAYER, IT DIRECTOR, AND TALK TO US ABOUT OUR

ANALYST POSITION. >> I WAS WONDERING WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO APPEAR FROM.

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>> GOOD MORNING. IT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

GOOD MORNING. THE POSITION, ANALYST POSITION, SUPPLEMENT AND COMPLEMENT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR NEW TECHNOLOGIES, OR MORE CORE RESPONSIBILITY OF MANAGING THAT PLATFORM INFORMATION AND DATA THAT IS SURROUNDING THAT PLATFORM.

THAT LEAVES A GAP FOR STUFF WE WOULD DO, MAPS AND THINGS IN THAT NATURE.

THOSE DUTIES WERE WITH THE PRIOR POSITION. THAT HAS SHIFTED TO OUR CORE RESPONSIBILITIES. FULFILL ALL THOSE DUTIES. SO THAT CITIZENS WILL NOT HAVE TO CALL IN, AVAILABLE READILY ONLINE FOR INDIVIDUALS IN OUR NEW SYSTEM.

BUILDING OUT FURTHER, RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING RESOURCES AVAILABLE.

THAT WILL INCREASE OUR EFFICIENCY. OUR FACE TO FACE CONTACT REQUIREMENTS. INCREASE THE PUBLIC, BUSINESSES OR OTHERWISE TO GET EVERY

RESOURCE THAT THEY NEED AT THE PUSH OF A BUTTON.>> THE CHOOSE FORT PIERCE PART OF THE WEBSITE? IS THAT RIGHT? CHOOSE FORT PIERCE.

>> YES. >> SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PREMIERE FOR US AT SOME POINT. OKAY.O THIS IS FOR USE, IF A TAXPAYER ASKS WHY DO YOU NEED A SPECIALIST TWO, OR WHATEVER, TRANSPARENCY AND FOR EASY ACCESS TO IT.

>> ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF. FLOOD MAPS, ZONING. YOU USED TO HAVE TO COME IN HOUSE. ANYONE CAN SEE IT, ACCESSIBLE 24/7.

>> TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO SAVE JOBS, NOT GOING TO NEED AS MANY PEOPLE.

STILL NEED PEOPLE. >> IT MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT. ALLOWS STAFF, STAFF THAT ARE DOING MUNDANE TASKS OR BECAUSE OF INEFFICIENCIES TO BETTER UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES IN A BETTER EFFICIENT MANNER. SOMETIMES RELINING AND BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE

PRODUCTS AND SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE. >> ALLOWS US TO COORDINATE WITH

OUR OTHER AGENTS CORRECT? >> CORRECT. IN A MAJOR WAY.

>> THAT IS GREAT. >> YES, MA'AM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS. >> CODE MANAGER. TWO PART-TIME CODE ENFORCEMENT

OFFICERS. >> GOOD MORNING. THESE TWO PART-TIME OFFICERS ARE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN HIRED, INTERVIEWING FOR SHORTLY.

TO HELP US ON OUR WEEKENDS AND DURING OUR DOWNTOWN WEEKDAY ENFORCEMENT.

BOTH PART-TIME. >> DEVOTED TOTALLY TO PARKING? >> CERTIFIED AS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ALSO. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING, THEY CAN SAY BY THE WAY YOU WILL HAVE TO

TAKE CARE OF THIS. THEIR ROLE WILL BE PARKING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> JUST WEEKEND OR SPORADIC WITH LIMITED HOURS? 20 HOURS?

>> 24 HOURS. SPLIT UP DURING THE WEEK AND ON THE WEEKENDS.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> MADAME MAYER OUR POLICE CHIEF COMING TO ADDRESS THE THREE POLICE OFFICERS, COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER,

SPECIALIST TWO, EVIDENCE SPECIALIST ONE. >> GOOD MORNING.

SO PROUD TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS GOING TO REPLACE THE THREE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT ARE PRESENTLY DEDICATED TO THE

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>> EDITED WHEN THE PUBLIC REQUESTS IT? THE REACTION?

>> YES. VERY TIME CONSUMING TO DO THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I KNOW THAT DRONES ARE ON OUR LIST OF THINGS EVENTUALLY. DOES THE DRONE FOOTAGE GET

CAUGHT INTO THAT TOO? >> EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE WILL BE A PART OF THE EDITING PROCESS. WITH THE DRONES, HOPING THAT ONCE WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE, ONE PERSON CERTIFIED RIGHT NOW. TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL PEOPLE CERTIFIED IN DRONES.

WE ARE DOING IT AS OFFICER SAFETY IS A PART BUT ALSO HELP US MAP OUT CERTAIN CAR CRASHES

AND THINGS OF GREATER DETAIL. >> THE WORLD OF VIDEO AND DIGITIZING IS NOT GOING AWAY, ACTUALLY GROWING. MORE AND MORE NEEDS FOR THAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY AHEAD OF THE GAME

ON THAT. >> YES, SIR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND ADDRESS OUR MAINTENANCE REPAIR

WORKER. >> GOOD MORNING. THE REQUEST IS TO HELP US WITH THEIR JANITORIAL NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES IN THE CITY. WITH THE PANDEMIC DEALING WITH THE NEEDS TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES AS CLEAN AND SANITIZED AS POSSIBLE, THIS POSITION WILL HELP US FULFILL THOSE NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

>> CLEANING THE RESTROOMS AND PARKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> PARKS, CITY HALL.

PD, RIVERWALK. ANYWHERE WE HAVE RESTROOM FACILITIES.

IN ADDITION ALSO ASSIST WITH PROJECTS WHEN IN NEED. >> WHAT IS THAT CURRENT NUMBER OF TOTAL CITY FACILITIES WE ARE LOOKING AT? APPROXIMATE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> HOW MANY FACILITIES.

OKAY. >> HE PUT THAT IN THERE AS A CATEGORY, ALL OF THE

FACILITIES. HOW BIG OF A FOOTPRINT. >> 20 PARKS, AS FAR AS STRUCTURES, RESTROOMS, ALL SORTS OF OTHER BUILDINGS, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY

HEAD. >> WE ADDED ONE. >> YES.

>> JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT DOESN'T COME TO MIND. TRYING TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC'S SAFETY ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE FACILITIES. PSOMETHING THAT WE DON'T YOU KNOW KEEP TOP OF MIND, WE EXPECT THE FACILITIES TO BE CLEAN, INCLUDING OUR PUBLIC PARK FACILITIES AS BEST WE CAN. S I THINK ABOUT IT, EVEN AT LF. OUR PUBLIC PARKS, THOSE ARE PUBLIC FACILITIES. THAT WE MAINTAIN FOR OUR PUBLIC AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY

ARE IN USABLE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. >> ONE TIME THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF CLEANING SOME OF THE FACILITIES THEY WERE NOT EMPLOYEES, CONTRACT.

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>> WE STILL INTEND TO DO THAT. WEEKEND DONE THROUGH A CONTRACTOR.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE. >> I AM GLAD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE ASKING YOU A QUESTION. AT SOME POINT IN TIME TALKING ABOUT POSITIONS, CALCULATION BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, SQUARE FOOTAGE. NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR EMPLOYEES PER NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET SO IF YOU COULD DO THAT AND GIVE US INFORMATION ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES WHICH IS A HIGH NUMBER, ONE EMPLOYEE FOR 55,000.

A LOWER PER SQUARE FOOTAGE, MORE INTENSE WORK FOR THE TYPE OF WORK THAT IS HAPPENING.

>> WORKING ON THAT CURRENTLY. OUR FACILITIES MANAGER IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH DANNY AT THE COUNTY ON HOW THEY DO THEIRS, SOME OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.

UNFORTUNATELY THE ONLY MANAGER OF THE DIVISION AT THE TIME, TRYING TO BRING ON A FOREMAN TWO NOW, GIVE HIM MORE TIME TO DEVOTE TO GETTING THOSE NUMBERS.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THEM THIS GO-ROUND UNFORTUNATELY WITH ALL THE OTHER DEMAND WE DID NOT GET

THERE. >> GOOD INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND LIGAMENT CLEAN AND HEALTHY FACILITIES. ALSO STANDARDS IN LEVELS OF THE

STANDARD WITHIN THAT INDUSTRY. >> IT WILL PROVIDE US THE DATA. >> I KNOW I GET CONTACTED, MAYBE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO ABOUT THE EXPECTATION OF THE CLEANLINESS OF THE PARKS.

THE COMPLAINTS WHEN THEY ARE NOT, THE WHOLE EXPECTATION TO WHY YOUR STANDARDS.

SO I KNOW THAT SOUTH BEACH HAS A NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS, ALSO INCREASING SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AROUND THE CITY IN TERMS OF STREETS AND MAY BE IN TERMS OF PARKS.

I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. THAT EXPECTATION IS OUT THERE FOR US TO HAVE THESE CLEAN

PARKS ALL THE TIME. >> I AGREE. >> SO I THINK IT IS REALLY

IMPORTANT TO STRESS THAT. >> A CHALLENGE FOR US BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF VISITORS TO OUR PARKS IS INCREASING DAILY ALMOST IT SEEMS. YOU KNOW IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE WE COULD PROBABLY USE PARK ATTENDANCE THAT WOULD BE THERE TO MAKE SURE THE RESTROOMS STAY CLEAN AND STOCKED.

SOME ARE COMING IN FROM THE BEACH, TRAX DIRT AND SAND. SOME OF THEIR CLEANING IN THE MORNING, ONE HOUR LATER IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE HAS BEEN THERE.

>> NOT JUST RESIDENTS. THE LICENSE PLATES AND THE PEOPLE WHO TALK TO ME AND TO I SEE THEIR COMING FROM OTHER PARTS OF FLORIDA. MAYBE HAVE A WEEKEND PLACE HERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A WEEKEND PLACE HERE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA.

PARKS ARE HEAVILY USED ESPECIALLY THAT PARK, JC PARK TOO.

I WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND MAYBE YOU OR MR. MEN'S, REDUCTION IN THE COST THAT KEEPS OUR FLEET BECAUSE OF USING ENTERPRISE? BECAUSE OF HAVING ENTERPRISE

INSTEAD OF OUR OWN VEHICLES? >> OUR COST TREND DOWN. SEEING OUR MAINTENANCE CALLS TREND DOWN. WE DO STILL HAVE SOME VEHICLES ON THE ROAD REQUIRING MAINTENANCE. THE COST ON THOSE ARE GOING TO BE HIGHER.

ABLE TO SEE THAT NUMBER, SOME FLEET INFORMATION LATER THIS MORNING.

>> OKAY. YES, SIR. >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMENT AND EXPOUND ON IT FURTHER. THE EXPECTATION.

ALSO THE CLEANLINESS OF OUR CITY, I HAVE SHARED COMMENTS WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, OUR STREETS ARE LOOKING WORN AND TATTERED WHEN IT COMES TO STRIKING AND LINING, PAINT GOES A LONG WAY.

LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING. THAT ADDS TO THE MENTALITY OF ALL PEOPLE SEE AND TREAT OUR CITY. IMPORTANT THAT WE FUND THOSE THINGS, THE PUBLIC THAT IS WATCHING, THESE ARE CHANGES THAT YOU WILL SEE.

CONTRACTED WITH A COMPANY TO KEEP OUR STREET AND GUTTERS CLEAN, LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT ON

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MAKE SURE WE ARE BALANCING THAT AND THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING USED BY THAT.

THE AMOUNT OF CURBS AND GUTTERS THAT WE HAVE TO CLEAN, DO WE NEED TO DO MORE.

AS WE LOOK TO GROW THE CITY, ATTRACT INVESTORS, THE FIRST THING OR TWO THINGS, ALWAYS SAFETY. THE SECOND IS THE CLEANLINESS. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WE BEGIN TO MODEL AND ENACT THIS THING, CALLED ONE FORT PIERCE. ALL BASICALLY LOOK IDENTICAL WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY. THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS THAT YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, LOOKING AT PUBLIC WORKS, THE FOREFRONT OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THOSE PNUMBERS ARE.

THE TYPE OF WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE.

SOMETHING I AM ALWAYS KEEPING IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. YOU ARE THE FOREFRONT OF HOW THE CITY LOOKS, HOW THE CITY ASKED, HOW WE TREAT OUR CITY. MAYBE ALSO OVER HERE, I HAVE NOTICED NEW SIGNS ON CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY. EVEN STRAPPING THEM TO OUR STOP SIGNS, THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. PEOPLE IN OUR CITY STRAPPING SIGNS ON OUR STOP SIGNS, SOMEHOW THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

>> USUALLY PUT THEM ON THE GROUND. STRAPPING THEM TO OUR ACTUAL PROPERTY. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THESE ARE THE THINGS AS YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC WORKS, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE AND COMPLEMENT THE STAFF, ALSO GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS OUR CITY.

GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. >> ARE RIGHT.

>> THAT CONCLUDES THE 11 POSITIONS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUDGET? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE TO DO OUR NOTICE. GOING TO DO IT AT THE 6.9 PERCENT ALWAYS GO DOWN, CANNOT

GO UP. 6.9 PERCENT. >> ALL IN CONSENSUS, AGREEMENT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO WE WISH TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP BUDGET WORKSHOP OR WISH TO

PROCEED TO THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS? >> I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR IT.

>> WE MET INDIVIDUALLY, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW IT IS NOT THAT WE ARE JUST SITTING AROUND.

SOME OF US WERE OVER ONE HOUR. >> I DID NOT NEED AS MUCH TIME AS YOU.

>> WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY WHAT THE 6.9 AND FOR YEARS AND YEARS, ALONG HOLLER HERE ON THE DAIS, FOR 10 YEARS IT WAS LIKE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CUT THIS YEAR? WE ALL MADE THE COMMITMENT, WHEN WE GOT TO THIS TIME, THIS TIME WOULD COME, I DOUBT IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS ESPECIALLY IN BACK IN 11, 12 BUT IT DID COME, WE MADE A COMMITMENT WE WERE GOING TO SHORE UP THOSE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN TAKEN AWAY FOR SO LONG. I THINK WE ALL ASKED OUR QUESTIONS.ORE COMFORT WITH THAT. JUST NOT BEATING YOU UP LIKE WE SHOULD BE, YOU ALREADY DID SUCH A GREAT JOB IN ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS.

>> I THOUGHT I SOMETHING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >> IN THE GENERAL FUND.

>> I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE ALSO GROWN IN POPULATION. NOT ONLY JUST GENERALLY GROWTH

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>> MCNAMARA, ECHO THAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEANT WITH STAFF, THINGS I HAVE HEARD OF THEIR THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH. REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET, THE CLEANLINESS OF OUR CITY. RESPONSE TIMES DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. UNDERSTAND THE ESSENCE OF A CITY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET. SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS SO WE HAVE CLEAN AND SAFE PARKS, STREETS. I THINK WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET, IF QUESTIONS WE CAN DIRECT THE PUBLIC.

I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. GOING TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER

RESPECTED ONES? ABOUT THEIR PEOPLE? >> MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT. >> THAT IS FROM YOU MR. MEMS. >> I WILL START IT OFF.

I AM THE DIRECTOR.ASKING FOR ONE SPECIALIST. RIGHT NOW SINCE 2013, STAFFED BY GENERAL FUND INDIVIDUALS, BASICALLY SLASHES, LIKE ME, THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND THAT FPRA TREASURER. JACK DOES CERTAIN THINGS. WE HAVE FOLKS DOING ASPECTS WITH THAT FPRA. I BELIEVE NOW THE TIME HAS COME THAT THAT FBRA IS FINALLY HEALTHY, FINALLY SOLVENT. FINALLY ABLE TO PAY THE DEBT AND HAVE LEFT OVER CASH TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF OUR INITIATIVES. WITH THAT STATED, ONE SPECIALIST THAT CAN HANDLE ALL OF THE PROGRAMS, ALL OF THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, MEETINGS, SOMEBODY TO COORDINATE THE ACTIVITIES.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO STAFF UP TO THAT LEVEL. THE STEPS TO HAVE SOMEONE DEDICATED FOR THAT PURPOSE. THAT IS WHAT THAT POSITION IS GOING FOR.

>> IS CHEYENNE STILL GOING TO BE A PART? >> ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. GOING TO DO ALL THINGS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

EVERYONE IN MY OFFICE IS FPRA. >> THIS PERSON WILL WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS, MAKING SURE WE STAY ON TRACK AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING TO US AND MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE

FOLLOW-UPS ON THAT. >> A CHECK BALANCE. YOU CANNOT BALANCE ALL THESE

PLATES. >> IT IS ALL GOOD. >> PART OF THAT CONFIGURATION

TOO. >> MY ENTIRE STAFF HELPS OUT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >> AS YOU ARE AWARE, AS MR. MIMMS MENTIONED, EXPERIENCING A TIME OF GROWTH. IN THE CITY. AT THE SAME TIME, ALSO BUILT OUT OUR HUB, IS WHAT WE CALLED IT. BEFORE WE HAD THE PERMITTING HUB, ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL, WE HAD REACHED OUR CAPACITY.

WE NEEDED MORE EMPLOYEES BE PHYSICALLY DID NOT HAVE THE SPACE TO HIRE.

SO THAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE TO CREATE SPACE SO WE COULD FUNCTION IN AN ADEQUATE WAY.

LAST YEAR WITH THE TRANSITION RESTRICTIONS BASICALLY ALL EMPLOYMENT AND POSITIONS WERE SHUT DOWN, NOT ABLE TO INCREASE OUR STAFF LAST YEAR. SO THESE SIX POSITIONS BASICALLY THE COMBINATION FROM THE TIME WE MOVED OVER IN ADDITION WITH LAST YEAR COMBINING, WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY WITH INSPECTORS AS WELL AS THE POSITIONS.

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A COMBINATION OF THOSE POSITIONS. >> YES, SIR.>> MY QUESTION IS BASIC.THE ONE I ALWAYS GET FROM PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME. AT THE CAPACITY THAT A PERSON CAN SUBMIT INTO THE PROCESS ONLINE VISUALLY? HOW FAR ARE WE AWAY FROM THAT?

>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. YES AND NO. >> FOCUS ON THE NO PART FIRST.

>> TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS, A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THINGS DIGITALLY. THAT JUST MEANS A PERSON CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION BY EMAIL THAT IS ELECTRONIC. SO ARE WE COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE? THE ANSWER IS YES. EVEN THE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HAS UTILIZED THAT CAPACITY TO SEE HOW ITWORKS. IT IS NOT IT'S BEST RENDITION RIGHT NOW WITHOUT PROJECT DOCUMENTS OR SOFTWARE. HOWEVER, THAT IS THE KEY. SO I ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN WOULD WE START THE PROCESS, THE ANSWER I WAS GIVEN WAS HOPEFULLY NO LATER THAN AUGUST PERHAPS EVEN BEFORE. WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER TIME IT DOES TAKE BUT WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THE BEST VERSION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR THE PROCESS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO

OUR CITIZENS. RIGHT AT THE CUSP. >> THAT IS THE PART I WANTED TO HEAR. I KNOW WE MADE THAT INVESTMENT INTO THE SOFTWARE.

THAT IS THE THING I HEAR, BECOMES TROUBLESOME. >> WHEN I TELL YOU GAME

CHANGER, THAT WILL BEAT THE GAME CHANGER. >> THAT IS COMING SOON.

>> WE DID APPROVE IT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO. LET'S GET ON IT.

>> TOMORROW CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. ADDRESS THE SOLID WASTE EMPLOYEES.

>> GOOD MORNING. THE POSITIONS ARE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AND DESERVES. SOLID WASTE IS YOU KNOW IMPORTANT MUCH LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SINCE THE DIVISION HAS BEEN UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SINCE 2010, NOT ADJUSTED EMPLOYEES AT ALL IF ANYTHING WE HAVE LOST POSITIONS. AS WE KNOW IN THE LAST 11 YEARS OUR CITY HAS GROWN, REQUESTING TWO DRIVERS TO HELP US COVER WITH THE GROWTH WE ARE EXPERIENCING, GOING TO SEE BUT ALSO TO HELP US WITH OUR STAFFING LEVELS WITH THE DEMAND WE HAVE TODAY. ANYTIME WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT TAKES LEAVE, IT IS A STRUGGLE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COVERAGE. I AM SURE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE NEWS, THE INDUSTRY IS STRUGGLING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTING.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT WE DO. THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB SERVICING OUR COMMUNITY.HE OTHER POSITIONS WILL BE FOR MAINTENANCE, SO THAT WE GET, SOMEONE CALLS, WE CAN RESPOND QUICKLY. GET THOSE ADDRESSED IN TIMELY FASHION. OUR GOAL IS THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE WORKERS WILL CARRY A

CDL, YOU KNOW BE A BACKUP DRIVER SHOULD WE NEED ONE. >> YOU ARE GOOD?

>> A COMMENT. IF I CAN COME IT SEEMS LIKE I AM SAYING QUITE A BIT HERE.

PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR THE SOLID WASTE, I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

PRIDEFUL TO LIVE IN THE CITY, KNOWING WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING TO ADDRESS OUR CITIZENS WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PICKUP AND DISPOSAL. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

THE MAINTENANCE, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON, I THINK I SHARED, HOW PEOPLE TREAT OUR TRASH CANS.

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I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON THESE THINGS. FACTORED INTO THE COST OF THIS PROBABLY DOUBLE WHAT WE SPENT BEFORE. I AM CONCERNED WITH THAT.

NOW WE HAVE TO FUND THAT POSITION. LOOKING AT THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS I DRIVE BY AND SEE TRASH CANS IN THE STREET.

SOME HAVE REMOVED FROM THE CURB AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. >> CURRENTLY PROVIDING MAINTENANCE SERVICES THROUGH TEMPORARY SERVICES. THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED.

CURRENTLY I HAVE SHARED A ROUGH DRAFT WITH MR. MIMMS, A CAMPAIGN COMING OUT.

STAFF HAS MET WITH THE AUTHORITY ON HOW WE CAN WORK WITH THEM, SOME TRAININGS WITH OUR DRIVERS TO DO A BETTER JOB OF REPORTING. WORKING TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE BETTER TO OUR RESIDENTS. GET A VIDEO OUT SHORTLY ON EDUCATION, HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. RECENTLY AVENUE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT IS HELPING US WITH OUTREACH. THAT WILL GO OUT ON A SOCIAL

MEDIA AND THE WEBSITE. >> THANK YOU. >> YOUR INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. IT HAS BEEN RECYCLABLES, JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW THE SOLID WASTE AS FAR AS THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT HAS BEEN LESS AND LESS OVER TIME, I MADE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL? I KNOW NOW WE HAVE RECYCLING AS A BIG COMPONENT.

ANY LESS OF A DEMAND FOR TRUCKS FILLING UP LESS FREQUENTLY? SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THE

LANDFILL OR A DUMPING STATION. >> THE BIG ADVANTAGE WITH RECYCLABLES, IF YOU FOLLOW THE INDUSTRY, THE MARKET GO SUPERHIGH, SUPERLOW, NOW METALS DESIRABLE AGAIN.

ACTUALLY YOU KNOW WE MENTIONED WE DID NOT ADD ANY NEW PERSONNEL, WHEN WE TOOK ON RECYCLING IN 2012 DID NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL DRIVERS. DID THAT WITH EXISTING STAFFING LEVELS. REQUIRED TO SEND THAT TRUCK THROUGH EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD TO COVER. WHERE WE HAVE SEEN A SAVINGS IS ON THE SCALE.

WHENEVER WE DISPOSE OF OUR MATERIALS, NO COST TO THE CITY OF DISPOSE OF THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE THE MARKET IS AT. SOMETIMES THERE IS REVENUE, OTHER TIMES THERE ISN'T.

WE HAVE NOTICED THE SAVINGS THERE. UNLOADING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE

HAVE COLLECTED. >> THE OPERATION, TAKE A LOOK AT THE OPERATION, ACTIVITY LEVEL PRETTY MUCH STILL THE SAME. MORE DEMAND ON EQUIPMENT AND YOU KNOW AS FAR AS THE TIMING. TRYING TO GET THOSE EMPLOYEES IN THERE, SOME SAVINGS AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH MAYBE ONE OR TWO LESS PERSONNEL BUT I GUESS NOT WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER. THE FREQUENCY OF THOSE

SERVICES. >> WE LOOKED AT THIS ONE WE WENT TO THE RECYCLING, DISCUSSIONS ON GOING TO A ONE DAY FOR GARBAGE, ONE DAY FOR RECYCLING.

NOT RECOMMENDED IN SOUTH FLORIDA. DUE TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LIVE IN AND THE AMOUNT OF WASTE COLLECTED IN THE AMOUNT OF RECYCLING, IT IMPROVES SUBSTANTIALLY OVER WHAT IT WAS. STILL LAGGING BEHIND WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO BE TOO DO THAT IF WE HAD THE PARTICIPATION, HOT CLIMATE, WOULDN'T BE TOO CONDUCIVE FOR A ONE DAY A WEEK

SERVICE FOR GARBAGE. IT WOULDN'T. >> THANK YOU.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME FORM OF ESSENTIAL DUMPING PLACE.

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SOME AREAS WE HAVE VERY ACTIVE RECYCLING, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

EVEN OUR RECORD OF VOICE, HAS GONE UP EVERY YEAR. EVEN WITH RECYCLING.

THE REVENUES FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, REFLECT WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE IN CONSTRUCTION

AS WELL AS NEW COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> GOLF COURSE MANAGER DANNY, SOME IDEAS HE HAS. >> HE IS ALWAYS UPBEAT.

>> LOOKING TO ADD TWO POSITIONS. SUPERINTENDENT POSITION, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT POSITION. IN THE SCHEME OF FINANCES ACTUALLY SAVE US EXPENSE MONEY. THE PAST FOUR YEARS HEADED OUR MAINTENANCE OF THE GOLF COURSE, THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB, GET THE GOLF COURSE HEALTHIER, SAFER, CLEANER.

FOR US TO PUT THE BEST PRODUCT OUT THAT WE CAN GOING FORWARD IN THIS CITY, THAT IS OUR ONLY COMMODITY, THE GOLF COURSE. TAKE ALL THE MAINTENANCE BACK OVER IN HOUSE, SO WE KNOW EVERY DOLLAR BEING SPENT. GOING FORWARD GIVE US THE BEST PRODUCT AND ALLOW US TO SUCCEED

AND BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN OUR EXPENSE LINE AND INCOME LINE. >> WITHOUT OUTSOURCING WAS

GOING TO SAVE US MONEY BUT YOU DON'T SEE THAT NOW. >> I THINK LONG-TERM, I THINK FOR US TO KNOW WHERE EVERY DOLLAR IS BEING SPENT AND HAVE EVERYTHING UNDER OUR CONTROL IN

HOUSE, BEST FORM OF ACTION GOING FORWARD. >> GO AHEAD.

>> CONTRACT LESS SERVICES OR ELIMINATE? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE

CONTRACT. >> THROUGH OCTOBER 14. END THE THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TAKE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE GOLF COURSE BACK OVER. SOME GOOD THINGS DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BUT I THINK FOR US, IT HAS BEEN VOLATILE AT TIMES.

THEY'VE BEEN DOWN IN MANPOWER, SO I THINK THIS PROVIDES US THE CONTROL OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE GOLF COURSE ON A DAILY BASIS. THE CHEMICALS, THE EMPLOYEES.

SO THESE POSITIONS WOULD BE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THE OTHER FOUR POSITIONS UNDER A STAFFING COMPANY. >> I AM GLAD YOU EXPLAINED THAT WE STILL GOING TO STAFF WORKERS TO DO THE WORK. THE ONES IN CHARGE OF BRINGING OUR COURSE TO A LEVEL GOING FORWARD. I KNOW THAT IT'S INTERESTING, OUR COUNTY HAS DONE THE OPPOSITE. THEY HAVE TURNED THAT OVER AND OUT, LOOKING AT THE COMPARISON HERE. TO SEE WHICH ONE COMES UP, PAY ATTENTION TO THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND HAVE THOSE CONCERNS WITH PAIN AND OUTSIDE SOURCE.

LL COMES DOWN TO THE SYSTEMS THAT WE USE TO KEEP OUR GREENS IN CONDITION, CAUTIOUS OF THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL. A PORTENT TO ME WE ARE DOING AT THE RIGHT WAY SO THANK YOU.

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>> IF WE WERE WITH 10 OR 12 EMPLOYEES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

IN OUR BEST INTERESTS TO OUTSOURCE. LOOKING AT SIX REALLY GOOD EMPLOYEES. A LOT OF COST POSITIONS, TWO OR THREE TAX, IRRIGATION

EMPLOYEES. MULTI USE POSITIONS. >> IN THE END WHEN THE STAFFERS DO NOT SHOW UP, SUPERINTENDENT, ASSISTANT, GET OUT THERE, THAT IS THE EXPECTATION.

>> MORE RELIABLE. >> VERY WELL.>> YES, SIR. >> FROM THE PAST RIGHT, YOU KNOW JUST OUR COMMITMENT TO YOU, YOUR COMMITMENT TO US, FROM WHAT HAPPENED TO US BEFORE, WE BROUGHT IN THE COMPANY TO HELP US GET TO THE PROBLEMS WE WERE EXPERIENCING.

SO MY ONLY ASK IS THAT WE DON'T FALL OFF LIKE WE DID BEFORE. I KNOW THAT IS NOT YOUR GOAL BY ANY MEANS BUT WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM WHY WE BROUGHT THAT GROUP ON, THEY GOT US AHEAD OF THE GAME I BELIEVE. I SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL OF

EXCELLENCE AND PROFESSIONALISM AND I THINK WE WILL BE OKAY. >> IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ADDING POSITIONS.WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF OUR BUDGET IT ACTUALLY SAVES US MONEY.

>> WE SAW THE NUMBER ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE GOLF COURSE, DOES THAT MOVE THE NEEDLE

ANYWAY? 26? >> IT DOES.

BRIDGE THE GAP, BETWEEN THE EXPENSES AND LOWER REVENUES. HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A PRODUCT UNTIL JUST RECENTLY. NOW STARTING TO GET A PRODUCT OUT THERE.

TWO DOLLARS AROUND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, $90,000. A BIG DIFFERENCE.

FOLLOWING THE COUNTIES PROCEDURE IN THE WAY OF THEIR OUTSIDE STAFF, THEIR CURRENT PERSONNEL. ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE VOLUNTEER POSITIONS.

THAT IS GOING TO SAVE US ROUGHLY. MAKING A FEW CHANGES.

THE CART PERSONNEL, THIS CHANGE, ROUGHLY BETTER THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE

PAST. >> I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING THAT.

HAVING A GOOD PRODUCT, PEOPLE WILL PAY THAT BASED ON HOW THE COURSE LOOKS AND FEELS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES THE

POSITIONS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AT ALL ON THE BUDGET? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK TOO.

BUDGET HEARINGS, IN SEPTEMBER UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS IN BETWEEN.

THANK YOU. READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM. >> PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 21, 22

[b. Proposed FY 2021-2022 Capital Improvement Program ]

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. >> MR. MIMMS. >> OUR ENGINEER WHO IS THE MANAGER OF OUR PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND NOW WE HAVE MECHANISMS TO GET THEM DOWN. JACK WILL TAKE US THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION AND GIVE US THE

GOOD NEWS. >> GOOD MORNING. PREPARED FOR YOU PRESENTATION TO BRING US UP-TO-DATE, THE LAST YEAR, WHERE WE ARE HEADED FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR COMING UP. OVER SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THIS PAST YEAR. 17TH STREET RECONSTRUCTION. FINALLY MOVING TOWARDS THE CLOTHES OF THAT PROJECT, FOR THE MOST PART. CONSTRUCTIONS, OPEN PRIOR TO

THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL SEASON. >> STILL GO THROUGH, WE DO HAVE

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COMING THROUGH THAT AREA THAT WILL BE OPEN AND COMPLETED. >> THAT WILL BE SCHOOL BUSES.

>> OVERPASS, WITH COMPLETED REPAIRS TO THAT. A VERY SMOOTH PROJECT HOPEFULLY IT WASN'T, DO NOT CAUSE TOO MUCH INCONVENIENCE TO THE PUBLIC.

REALLY GOOD CONTRACTOR ON THAT, A GOOD PROJECT. RESURFACING, COMPLETED THAT.

A SMALL SECTION THIS PAST YEAR. LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SOME MORE THIS YEAR.

CITY HALL AS YOU KNOW THE EXTERIOR WATERPROOFING AND PAINTING IS COMPLETED THEY

SHARE. >> IT LOOKS VERY MUCH BRIGHTER. >> INTO OUR STORMWATER PROJECTS, THERE WAS SOME COMPLAINTS, SOME PROBLEMS AT THE END OF THE VISTA, WE CONNECTED ON TO THE SYSTEM. ANOTHER LOW PROJECT ON A THUMB POINT THAT WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE COUPLE NEW HOMES CONSTRUCTED OUT THERE. AN AREA WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE DRAINAGE. WE RELIEVED THAT PROBLEM. THE PROBLEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS, PROBLEMS AT THE SOUTH END OF SECOND STREET.

ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE CONNECTION TO OUR SYSTEM. WE JUST COMPLETED THAT.

THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, THE PAVING THIS WEEK. THAT WAS OUR PROJECT/DAVID THIS

YEAR LOOKS A LOT BUSIER. >> YES, SIR. >> GOING BACK TO THE VERPASS, WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON IT. IT WAS 500,000, JUST KEPT GROWING.

MATERIALS AND DEMAND ALL CAUSE THAT, THE BRIDGE IS RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I GUESS THAT WAS SOMETHING WE INHERITED WHEN WE STARTED DOING WORK ON THE DRIVE, THAT ROUNDABOUT. HOW LONG ARE THESE REPAIRS GOING TO LAST? SOMETHING THAT WE PUT IN A DOCUMENT THAT KNOWS THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT THIS GOING FORWARD? 20 YEARS, GOOD FOR 20 YEARS OR

30 YEARS? >> I THINK THE KEY IS WE NEED TO HAVE A SOONER MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ON IT, TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON IT. AS YOU CAN RECALL CITRUS BRIDGE, NOT HAVING MAINTENANCE IN 25 OR 30 YEARS. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF PUT OFF WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO. THE KEY IS TO GET THIS ON A CONTINUING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM TO TAKE CARE OF THE JOINTS, YOU KNOW WATCH OUT FOR US SPALLING. A GOOD PROCESS, THE STATE DOES A REALLY THOROUGH INSPECTION EVERY TWO YEARS, I THINK FROM THOSE REPORTS WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION, TO COME UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR THAT AND KEEP AHEAD OF IT.

>> I CANNOT THINK OF ANY OTHER ROADWAY THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD THAN THE CITRUS OVERPASS. IT LINKS OUR DOWNTOWN TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE REAL PRODUCTIVITY. JUST TO SPEND THE MONEY ON IT, FORGET ABOUT IT FOR 20 YEARS, I DON'T THINK IT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. I AGREE WITH YOU.

I GOT A FEELING THAT THEY ARE CHECKING IT EVERY TWO YEARS, ANY LARGE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO

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>> ECHO THE COMMISSIONER, SO AS WE LOOK AT THAT BRIDGE, IMPORTANT BUT ALSO THAT OVERPASS THAT PROVIDES A PASSAGE NEXT TO THE JUICE PLANT.

PROBABLY CITY OWNED? >> REFERRING? >> YES.

>> THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY. IN FACT THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE UPGRADED STARTING WITHIN THE

NEXT 20 OR 90 DAYS. >> I DON'T GO THAT WAY OFTEN. >> THAT OVERPASS, THAT AREA IS

GOING TO BE CLOSED BEGINNING JULY 20. >> GOOD TO HEAR.

>> THE FIRST IS AVENUE A. THE CROSSING THERE, REPLACE THAT CROSSING FIRST.

THE TRESTLE ACROSS THE CREEK AND THE ONE GOING ACROSS THE AVENUE, COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE. STILL HAVING SOME PERMITTING TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTOR BUT YES ADDING THE SECOND TRACK TO THAT, A NEW TRESTLE. UPGRADING OF THE EXISTING ONE.

>> OKAY. GOOD TO HEAR, THANK YOU. >> PROCEED.

>> UPCOMING PROJECTS FOR THIS YEAR, KICKING OFF AS OUR RESURFACING PROGRAM.

I DECIDE IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, 500,000 FROM THE TAX FOR THE NEXT FIVE FISCAL YEARS GOING OUT, THE FIRST PART OF THAT. ESTIMATED COST LOWER, I AM SURE WE WILL COME CLOSE TO THAT IN OUR RESURFACING. THE LINKIN PARK AREA, THE AVENUE D ANOTHER PROJECT COMING UP THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING. THIS WILL BE BOTH SIDES OF THAT, THAT WILL FINISH OFF, MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE LINKIN PARK AREA IN THAT SECTION. THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP, WENT OUT FOR DESIGN FOR THIS SECTION, THE PLANS ARE COMPLETED. LOOKING TO PUT THIS UP TO BID IN AUGUST. SAME THING WITH AVENUE B. A LARGE SECTION FROM EIGHTH STREET TO 13TH STREET. UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC STREET LIGHTING, RESTRICTION OF THIS ROADWAY. THOSE PLANS ARE COMPLETED, LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT OUT TO BID IN AUGUST ALSO FIFTH STREET THE SECTION CLOSE TO CITY HALL HERE FROM BOSTON TO DELAWARE, ALREADY PUT THAT OUT FOR BID, ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION TO START IN AUGUST.

THAT WILL BE COMPLETE, UTILITIES, SIDEWALK. >> IN FRONT?

>> YES. >> OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE ARE ENTERING THE DESIGN STAGE, OHIO AVENUE. FROM U.S. THE DESIGN STAGE, OHIO AVENUE.

FROM U.S. 12 11TH STREET. THIS WILL BE A JOINT PROJECT WHERE THEY WILL DO MAJOR WATER WORK, SANITARY CONNECTIONS. SERVICES. LOOK AT UNDER GROUNDING THE

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LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL FOR DESIGN, LOOKING AT THAT NOW. PROBABLY BRINGING THAT TO THE

COMMISSION IN THE NEXT SECOND MEETING OF AUGUST FOR THAT. >> THAT GOES WEST OF THE

ROUNDABOUT. >> ALL THE WAY TO THE END. >> RIGHT.

>> REMAINING DIRT STREET OVER ON THE BEACH, GOING TO DO THE DESIGN IN HOUSE, HAVE A SURVEYOR SCHEDULED TO GET OUT THERE AND GET US SERVE INFORMATION.

LOOKING AT DOING THE DESIGN AND GETTING THAT CONSTRUCTED THIS COMING YEAR.

AS I SAID BEFORE THE AVENUE D, WHICH WILL BE THE RESURFACING AND REPLACEMENT OF THE PAPER CROSSWALKS, LANDSCAPING, I MET WITH MR. MIMMS IN PREPARATION OF THIS, GOING TO LOOK AT EXTENDING THAT SECTION FROM U.S. 1 ALL THE WAY TO RIVER DRIVE, A COMPLETE PROJECT OF THAT. GOOD ADDITION. A SECTION THAT REALLY NEEDS

RECONSTRUCTION, VERY NICE ACTION. >> MADAME MAYOR.

>> I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT. NO GUTTER OR ANYTHING.

I KNOW THAT FROM RAIN, HOPEFULLY AS A RESULT OF THIS, AS AT GATEWAY COMES INTO LINKIN PARK, PROVIDE. THAT SECTION FROM THE RIVER DRIVE OUT TO 29TH, TOTALLY RESURFACED? AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.

>> YES. FROM INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, UP TO U.S. 1 WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED.

THE REST OF IT WILL BE RESURFACED. >> THANK YOU.

>> REALLY HAPPY TO SEE A STREET GET PAID FINALLY. A LOT OF LOSS IN THAT AREA.

THAT INVESTMENT WILL ENCOURAGE, THE WHOLE ISLAND IS GOING NUTS RIGHT NOW.

THAT STREET HAS ALWAYS AMAZED ME, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE ALL THE ACTIVITY THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING, IT IS OUR DIRT ROAD CONNECTING TWO MAJOR THROUGHWAYS.

I REALLY BELIEVE THIS WILL SPUR ON GROWTH INTO THAT AREA AND HELP WITH OUR TAXPAYERS.

>> WE GAVE UP FRANCIS FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS GOING TO DEVELOP THAT.

>> I THINK KIND OF HOLDING OFF RIGHT NOW. >> BY ONE ON THE STREET, WE ARE

GOING TO PAY THAT. >> ONLY IN RAISING THE TAXES. >> EXACTLY.

>> THE COMMISSION UP TO DATE ON OUR SUN TRAIL PROJECTS THATWE HAVE BEEN DOING.

THE INDIAN HILLS TRAIL PORTION, THIS IS A GRANT THROUGH DOT, ADMINISTERED BY DOT, A PART OF THE GREENWAY TRAIL SYSTEM AND THE INDIAN HILLS SECTION IS THE FIRST TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN ST.

LUCIE COUNTY. KIND OF THE KICKOFF OF THE SUN TRAIL.

CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL, WE STARTED AT I GUESS THE SOUTHERN BRIDGE OF THE INDIAN HILLS AREA, MOVING NORTH TOWARD INDIAN HILLS DRIVE RIGHT NOW.

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THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE SUN TRAIL WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER DESIGN, THE SECTION FROM INDIAN HILLS DRIVE TO GEORGIA AVENUE. THIS SECTION GOES THROUGH, THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE GOLF COURSE. BEHIND THE POLICE STATION. CONNECT TO GEORGIA AVENUE RIGHT THERE. 30 PERCENT DESIGN PLANS RIGHT NOW, WORKS WITH THE GOLF COURSE TO KIND OF MINIMIZE EFFECTS TO THEIR OPERATION, I THINK A GOOD PLAN.

THE THIRD PORTION IS THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, PROPOSAL FROM ONE OF OUR SERVICES, ON THE SECOND MEETING OF AUGUST, LOOKING AT THEIR NUMBERS. THIS WILL BE A CHALLENGE, EVEN IN THE PLAN, IT LIFT OFF SEGMENTS OF UNCERTAINTY. SO GOING TO DESIGN THE PORTIONS THAT WE ARE SURE WE CAN GET CONSTRUCTED, COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES FOR THE REMAINDER.

HOW WE ARE GOING TO NAVIGATE FROM SECOND STREET, HOW DO I GET ACROSS CITRUS AVENUE, WHETHER UNDER THE BRIDGE, ALL KINDS OF UNCERTAINTIES. IT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE OF HOW WE CONNECT THAT. IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THAT, GREAT ASSET FOR THE CITY.

SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUT SOME TIME AND EFFORT INTO, THIS IS THE KICKOFF OF THAT DESIGN.

FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS KIND OF A PIE IN THE SKY, IT LEFT A LOT OF STUFF AS WE CLOSE THOSE GAPS. THE TAX COMING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, $1.2 MILLION SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR, COLLECTED 1.5 MILLION. OTHER FUNDS WHICH WAS EIGHTH STREET DESIGN, AVENUE D DESIGN, 2020 STREET RESURFACING, SO BASICALLY THAT LEAVES A BALANCE TO DATE OF THE $2.3 MILLION. UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EIGHTH STREET WILL BE MOSTLY FUNDED BY THE SURTAX, RESURFACING TOTALLY SURTAX. THEN THE OHIO AVENUE DESIGN WILL BE SURTAX ALSO. THAT WILL GIVE US 1.7 THAT IS GOING TO GO OUT.

ROUGHLY BALANCE OF $600,000. I DON'T LIKE TO TAKE IT DOWN TO THE LAST PENNY.

ALWAYS HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. THE SURTAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD, I MEET WITH THEM, NOT AS OFTEN AS WE DID. NOW UP AGAIN TO THE ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTH MEETING WAX SURPRISED AT THE INCREASE IN FUNDS RECEIVED IN 21:

>> YES. EVEN THROUGH THE WORST TIMES OF THE PANDEMIC WE WERE ABOVE LAST

YEAR. KEPT INCREASING EVERY MONTH. >> INTERESTING.

>> YES, SIR. >> IF I COULD COMMENT. THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR INCREASE BY ANOTHER THREE OR 400,000. COMING TO THE CITY.

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>> IN THE CIP, I HELD 500,000 Ñ24, I WENT UP TO 600,000, 25 I WENT UP TO 700,000 I BELIEVE.

YES I PERCEIVE THAT INCREASING AND I THINK PROBABLY SEE THOSE NUMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO ESCALATE BECAUSE THAT IS A MAIN USE OF THE SURTAX. STILL CONCENTRATE ON THE RESURFACING. I FOUND, OUR MAJOR LIST OF SURTAX PROJECTS, WHEN WE DO A SURTAX PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE 100 PERCENT SURTAX MONEY. BUT EACH PROJECT THAT I HAVE COMPLETED AND EACH PROJECT THAT WE LOOK AT DOING, THE SURTAX MONEY HAS ALLOWED US TO GO OUT FOR GRANTS TO SUPPLEMENT THIS MONEY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE STORM WATER PROJECT, GEORGIA AVENUE OUTFALL, WHICH WAS A SURTAX PROJECT.

WE TOOK THIS, AWARDED $1.2 MILLION. SO THAT MONEY WILL RELIEVE THE SURTAX, I PERCEIVE THAT MONEY GOING RIGHT TO RESURFACING FOR SOME OTHER PROJECT.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE MONEY IN RESURFACING. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

SURTAX MONEY, OF COURSE OUR DISTRICT STORMWATER MONIES THAT PARTICIPATE.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE DO BUMP THAT NUMBER, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SCARED OF IT.

WE KNOW THE REVENUE IS GOING TO CONTINUE. BECAUSE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IS INCREASING SO THEREFORE THE .5 PERCENT INCREASE, JUST BUYING GOODS, OR REAL FACT. LIKE TO SEE YOU INCREASE THAT NUMBER AT A QUICKER PACE IF WE COULD AND GET ON THESE PROJECTS FASTER. THE COMMITTEE, SUPPOSED TO DO A REVIEW AFTER THE FACT. WHEN I TALKED TO MY REPRESENTATIVE I SAID WELL, WE ARE REVIEWING. EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD BUT THEY DON'T GIVE INPUT ON WHAT IS COMING. MY CHANCE TO ASK THAT HE WOULD INCREASE THAT.

>> I ECHO THAT. A REALLY VISIBLE WAY TO SHOW OUR CITIZENS THAT WERE SPENDING, THEY DON'T SEE THE OVERPASS, THEY WOULD MISS IT IF IT CRUMBLED.

BUT THEY DON'T SEE IT AS THAT MONEY SPENT. ROAD RESURFACING THEY DO SEE.

> I ALSO AGREE. KEEP THINKING ABOUT HOW, WITH TODAY'S MONEY, COMPARED TO WHAT IT WILL BE IN TWO OR THREE YEARS, IT ERODES QUICKLY. BETWEEN MATERIAL, BETWEEN EMPLOYEES, ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON, NOTHING SEEMS LIKE IT IS GOING TO GET BETTER. I WOULD SPEND THOSE DOLLARS NOW, THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK ON THAT. REALLY REQUIRED NOW SWIMMING WE WANT TO GET THE BEST FOR THE

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TAXES THAT WE ARE COLLECTING. >> ECHO THAT I THINK AS WE EVALUATE THAT, TRYING TO GET OVER THERE TO SEE THE LIST OF PROJECTS. SOME OF US DID MAKE SESSIONS BASED ON EXPERIENCES, BEGINNING TO ADDRESS THAT. ONE FORT PIERCE MOVEMENT, C PROJECTS GOING TO BE MUCH NEEDED AND BROUGHT TO THE LINKIN PARK AREA.

HELP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, SOME OF THESE ROADS ARE REPAIRED.

HOPEFULLY SEE THOSE INVESTORS THAT HOLD SOME OF THOSE LOTS BEGIN TO PUT THEM ON THE MARKET OR DEVELOP THEM AS RESULT OF SOME OF THE PLEADINGS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, 17 STREET IS COMING ALONG, THAT IS GREAT.

THE MOST WIDELY USED BESIDES THAT IS 13TH STREET. SOME CHALLENGES, SOME OF IT IS STORMWATER DRAINAGE, A LOT OF IT IS RESURFACING. I THINK WE HAVE TWO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT PROJECT FROM THE ASPECT OF WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE SPEED PATHWAYS, ALWAYS A CONCERN. THE EXCESS SPEED AND EXPERIENCES I AM SEEING, I AM

SURE 13TH STREET IS ON YOUR LIST. >> 13TH STREET, A MAJOR PROJECT. A VERY COSTLY PROJECT. WE CONTINUE TO GO OUT EVERY PLACE WE CAN TO GET FUNDING FOR IT, IN FACT WE HAVE A GRANT APPLICATION THAT IS SUBMITTED FOR IT. WE HAVE ANOTHER AVENUE THAT I AM GOING TO SUBMIT FOR IT ALSO.

WE CONTINUE TO. >> 13TH ALL THE WAY FROM VIRGINIA ALL THE WAY THROUGH

13TH? >> IT IS SPLIT UP, WE HAVE THE MIDDLE COMPLETED FROM ORANGE TO AVENUE E COMPLETED. SO BOTH ENDS WE NEED TO REDO. NEXT SECTION I WOULD REALLY

LIKE TO DO, BE FROM ORANGE TO GEORGIA. >> I HAVE BEEN ON THAT.

>> THE CURB IS LITERALLY GONE. >> THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, ALL OF IT IS IMPORTANT.

OF COURSE FROM ORANGE SOUTH, ENCOUNTER A LOT OF SCHOOLCHILDREN, A LOT OF TRAFFIC. BALLPARKS NEARBY, A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.

TALKING WITH JACK, I THINK THE SOUTHERN SECTION FROM GEORGIA SELL, FIVE OR FIVE OR $6 MILLION. BECAUSE OF DRAINAGE, UP TO CITY CODE.

IT IS IMPORTANT. >> A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT PEOPLE USE, FRANCIS K, GET THROUGH THEIR AND THE REC CENTER IS GROWING IN THAT AREA. PROBABLY MORE INCREASED TRAFFIC. CAUTION TOO WELL I HAVE MY CHIEF YEAR, BE CAUTIOUS OF THAT SPEED ON THAT ROAD, PEOPLE ARE DOING CRAZY THINGS, BECOME A CHALLENGE I AM HEARING.

LET THE ENGINEERING KNOW THAT AS WE DO THIS. HOW WE CONTROL SPEED ON THAT.

A CHALLENGING CONCERN THAT I'M HAVING ON THAT MAJOR ROADWAY. EVEN COMING OFF OF AVENUE M, BLOWING +. THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE REDESIGN THESE ROADS. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> STORMWATER PROJECTS. THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE MAINTAINED ON THE CIP LIST THAT WAS SPACED OUT YEARS ON BEING PAID BY THE STORMWATER UTILITY.

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A COST FOR THAT. SO PROPOSING THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS BE MOVED FORWARD 16 STREET, I THINK LAST YEAR'S CIP, 24. PROPOSING THAT WE MOVE THESE UP, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS KICKED OUT, 16TH STREET, ALL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS FAILING. WE HAVE PIPES SEPARATELY, OLD TERRA-COTTA PIPES.

REALLY NEED TO BE UPGRADED. WITH THESE PROJECTS, DOING NEW CURB AND GUTTER.

THE CURB AND GUTTER IS GONE. IF WE DO THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT DOING SIDEWALKS TOO.

MIZE AS WELL TO THE WHOLE PROJECT. THAT IS WHAT I AM GETTING TO I THINK WITH A COMBINATION OF THE STORMWATER FEES, UTILITY FUNDS, THE PROPOSED AMERICAN RECOVERY, WE CAN GO IN AND DO THESE AS A COMPLETE PROJECT, REALLY QUALITY PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THREE RIGHT HERE, AVENUE Q, A MAJOR STORM SEWER IN THAT AREA.

A LOT OF THE JOINTS ARE SEPARATING. WE HAVE SINKHOLES AND EVERYTHING. REPLACED THE PIPE, REACHING 45-YEAR-OLD RANGE.

IT IS TIME TO REPLACE IT. ALSO IN SURFSIDE ONE PHASE OVER ON THE BEACH, ILLUMINATED SOME OF THE SWELLS THAT WERE EXISTING THEY ARE AND FILLED IN, THE WATER COLLECTED ON THE ROAD, WE PUT THE GUTTERS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, TO THE INLETS AND EVERYTHING.

IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING GOOD. THIS IS MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PHASES OF THAT, BECAUSE ALL THOSE ROADS OVER THERE ARE IN THE SAME CONDITION. THEY NEED TO BE RESURFACED BEFORE WE NEED TO FIX THE DRAINAGE. THE ONE PROJECT PHASE 2 THAT I HAVE, WILL BE DOING THAT WITH STORMWATER FUNDS, CURRENTLY HAVE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OUT FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT, PHASE 3, ALSO UNDER THIS RECOVERY PROJECTS.

SO A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET UNDERWAY.

I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL I HAVE AS FAR AS THAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE I HAVE THE UPDATED CIP WHICH WE COULD GO THROUGH THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

PARTICULAR PROJECTS. THE CIP CONTAINS A LOT OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THROUGH THE CITY, BUILDING, REPLACEMENT IN PUBLIC WORKS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH

THOSE, MARINA PROJECTS. >> WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION?

>> CAN YOU MOVE IT ALONG? INFORMATION PURPOSES. THIS YEAR'S CIP, JULY.

ALL THE COMMISSIONERS CAN HAVE IT, FULL TABLE SO WE KNOW WHAT ALL THE FUNDING ACRONYMS ARE,

QUITE A FEW OF THEM. >> LIKE THE TPO. >> TRANSPORTATION, PRETTY MUCH

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>> THANK YOU. 13TH STREET IS ON HERE, I HAVEN'T BROKE UP INTO THE DIFFERENT PHASES. PHASE FROM E TO Q, LOOKING AT, THAT IS EVEN SMALL FOR ME TOO.

2.21 MILLION FOR THAT PHASE, GEORGIA TO ORANGE, 4.5 MILLION. WHERE IS THE OTHER SECTION.

THAT IS A MAJOR PROJECT. LOOKING FOR HELP ON THAT. TRYING TO THINK OF ANY OTHER, MR. MIMMS WHAT OTHER PROJECTS DID WE ADD? HERE IS ONE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SUN TRAIL PROJECTS WE WENT THROUGH.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE IS THE OVERPASS, THE OVERPASS CONNECTS THE INDIAN HILLS WITH THE SAVANNA ONE ACROSS THE SPUR. APPLICATIONS, RENDERINGS AND EVERYTHING OVER THE YEARS, FINALLY AGREED THAT DESIGN WILL START THIS YEAR.

CONSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY FUNDED FOR STARTING FOR STARTING JULY 2024.

SO LOOKING AT A MAJOR CONNECTION TO THAT TWO TRIALS. THIS IS THE BUILDING, REPLACEMENT OF THE STRUCTURE TO BRING IT UP TO CURRENT WIND HURRICANE VELOCITIES.

ALSO WE NEED ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT REPAIRED. A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED FORWARD, FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. PARKING, I RECEIVED WORD FROM FDOT ON THURSDAY THAT THEY HAVE APPROVED THE SECOND DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE, NOT HAVE OUR TURNAROUND PROBLEM THERE, GOING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR CONSTRUCTION VERY SHORTLY.

>> LOOKING AT, THEN PARK, THAT WILL BE NOT THIS YEAR BUT NEXT YEAR, MOVING THAT.

>> ANYWAY TO GET HELP FROM THE AUTHORITY ON THAT? HAVE YOU TRIED THAT?

>> WE HAVEN'T TRIED THAT YET. >> ISN'T THAT THEIR LAND? >> ELYSE TO BE ON THE PREMISES.

WE DID ASK YEARS AGO, CONTACT THE INTERIM AUTHORITY PERSON. SEE IF THERE'S ANY FUNDING THAT

CAN ASSIST US AS WELL. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> DOWN AT THE INDIAN HILLS, MOVING TO THIS GOLF. FUNDING THAT THE SHEER AND GETTING THAT UNDERWAY.

>> META-MAYOR, JC PARK, SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US, SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS

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SEVERAL USES FOR THAT PART, JC PARK IS GOING TO BE AN AREA OF FOCUS AS WELL BUT SOMETHING ELSE IF POSSIBLE, DANNY AND JEN CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IS COMING UP AT THE INDIAN HILLS GOLF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE MOMENTS THEY CAN SHOW YOU THAT. DO YOU HAVE THOSE GRAPHICS

AVAILABLE: >> I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> AND MAY TAKE A MINUTE BUT WE CAN COME BACK TO IT. THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE GOLF COURSE IS SOMETHING WE ARE FOCUSED ON, DEFINITELY SOME COST WITH THAT BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THOSE COSTS ARE LOWER THAN THE TAJ MAHAL CLUBHOUSE THAT WE ENVISIONED, NO SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL AND CAN

HELP THE GOLF COURSE. >> TO THE MARINA PROJECT THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

THIS IS A STATION FOR THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MARINA. CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR GRANTS WITH THAT, GETTING A GRANT FOR THAT. TRYING TO GET THAT UNDERWAY THIS YEAR. NOT FUNDED YET, A YEAR HASN'T PAID, WE NEED TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. THE JIMMY CONVERSION, FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER, REQUESTED A DESIGN PROPOSAL FROM ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS WHICH I HAVE, WILL BE FORWARDING THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR HIS APPROVAL. GET THAT UNDER DESIGN. PART OF THATDESIGN WILL BE LOOKING FOR ANY GRANTS THAT WE CAN TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THIS CONVERSION.

TO GET THIS CONNECTED ON TO THE COUNTY SOURCES. >> SO BACK TO THE MARINA,

SEWAGE PUMP BOAT STATION, THERE IS ONE THERE NOW? >> THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MARINA HAS FACILITIES TO PUMP OUT. NOTHING ON THE NORTH SIDE, HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE DOCS OVER

THERE. >> OTHER THING IS THE MARINA SECURITY ENHANCEMENT, PUTTING VIDEO AROUND THE MARINA TO VIEW THE DOCS AND THE OPEN SPACES AND ALSO THE BUILDINGS.

TO AID WITH THE SECURITY OF THE MARINA. >> RETURN TO THIS.

STORM WATER PROJECTS, CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR LIST OF THAT, AND HE KNEW PROJECTS.

ON THE GEORGIA AVENUE ONE, I SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER. THIS IS PUTTING A CONTROL STRUCTURE, ENHANCING ALL THE TREATMENT PRIOR TO THIS CHARGING TO THE INDIAN RIVER.

RIGHT NOW THIS OUT FALL FLOWS THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE, CONNECTS DIRECTLY TO THE RIVER WITH NO TREATMENT OF ANY SOURCE. WE WENT TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH ST. JOHN'S, ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO THE RIVER, WE WERE AWARDED THAT GRANT FOR THAT, IT IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, DIFFERENT TREATMENT PLANS, THE FOUNTAINS THAT WILL BE SEDIMENT BOXES ON ALL THE INFLOWS, CONTROL STRUCTURE.

WATER IN THE GOLF COURSE. A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT TO THE BANKS OF THE LAKES, FAIRLY

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PROBABLY FROM 10TH TO 13TH, MAYBE EVEN STRETCHING. >> WEST OF U.S. 1.

>> OKAY. >> RIGHT. >> I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM FOR THE AVENUE, THE ROAD IN POOR TO FAIR CONDITION. THE ROAD COULD USE LOVE, THE MAIN ISSUE WITH BOSTON AS A CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT, PAYMENT DEPRESSION.

CAUSED BY DEFICIENCIES IN THE SEWER. MAY HAVE BEEN ALIGNED, DOES NOT SOLVE THE PAYMENT ISSUE. AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE HAVING WITH OUR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

YES PROVIDING THE SERVICES, YES GETTING TO THE HOMES AND RECEIVING FROM THE HOMES BUT THE DEFICIENCIES IN THE VOIDS BECAUSE BY THE INFILTRATION CAUSES PAVEMENT DEFICIENCIES.

SO YOU SEE THE CONSTANT POTHOLES, ALL IN A LINE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN SEVERAL AREAS IN OUR CITY. AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT IS

NEEDED MORE SO BECAUSE OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. >> A GRANT TO DO SOME MAJOR RELINING, HAVE WE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PAYMENT DEPRESSION SCHEMATIC

OKAY. >> NOTIFIED ON OCCASIONS, LYING IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE

DEFICIENCY. >> MIGHT BE THE SOLUTION FOR THE PIPE, NOT FOR THE CITY.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THE MAJOR THING, THE LINING DOES WELL FOR THE MEN, ALWAYS HAVE THE SERVICES. NOT ALIGNED, THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED.

DOING ADDITIONAL WORK. INVOLVES TEARING UP THE STREET. >> NOT SOMETHING I HAVE GIVEN A

LOT OF THOUGHT TO. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF JACK OR ANY OTHER?

WAITING FOR JAN. >> WE CAN FORGE AHEAD. WE HAVE ALL DAY.

>> ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> IF YOU COULD COME UP PLEASE, TAKE TEAM ON THIS PRESENTATION. >> AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN?

[c. American Rescue Plan ]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. >> THAT IS ALL RIGHT. >> THIS IS A CONFERENCE AGENDA.

>> JENNIFER PUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ON THE DESKTOP. WHAT WE CAN DO, JUST WE MIGHT

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DOWNLOAD IT TO THE DESKTOP. >> GOING TO HAVE YOU MANEUVER FOR ME.

>> AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, THE U.S. OF AMERICA HAS ALLOCATED FUNDING TO COUNTIES, CITIES, STATES, FOR DIRECT AID TO HELP WITH RESPONDING, PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES.

PROVIDING SERVICES, IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER, SEWER OR BROADBAND.

RESPONDING TO WORKERS PERFORMING ESSENTIAL WORK. THE CITY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED $13.5 MILLION OF THIS FEDERAL AID, BRINGING TO YOU CONCEPTS FOR THEIR FUNDING.

>> OKAY. THE FIRST THING IS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS BEEN HINTED ON THIS, A COUPLE OF OUR PROJECTS, JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING, FOR OUR STORM DRAIN PROJECTS. ATLANTIC AVENUE, OUR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT SURFSIDE. SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS.

THOSE PROJECTS TOTAL $2.385 MILLION. THEN OUR COLLECTION, WHAT THIS IS, IN RESPONSE TO SOCIAL DISTANCING, DURING THE PANDEMIC, ALSO CURBSIDE WASTE INCREASED THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. LOOKING 2 MILLION FOR THE PURCHASE OF TRUCKS TO ASSIST THE ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO FULFILL OUR OBLIGATIONS IN KEEPING OUR CITY CLEAN AND SANITIZED. THEN BROADBAND, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INITIATIVES WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU, THE LINKIN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, BROUGHT TO US A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN PARTNERSHIP. GOING TO PARTNER WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, ORIGINALLY IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT GRAPHIC, YOU WILL SEE THOSE CIRCLES.

WI-FI HOTSPOTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLACE UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR TO ASSIST BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS, INSTITUTIONS WITH THEIR BROADBAND NEEDS, THAT NOW HAS CHANGE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BROADBAND NOW PROMOTED IS FIBER INSTALL, WHICH LEADS TO A HIGHER CONNECTIVITY, GREATER

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FROM ORANGE AVENUE TO 25TH, AGAIN UP AVENUE D FROM U.S. 1, 25TH.

ALSO INCLUDING A KIOSK, FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. ASSIST WITH TOURISM, HUMAN NEEDS, ALSO HAVE THAT FIBER IN AND AROUND THE AREA THAT DOES NOT EXIST CURRENTLY TODAY.

IN ADDITION BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE BY WAY OF UNDERGROUND SERVICES, ON OUR PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE ENTAILED AS WELL. INCLUDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE UNDERGROUND, AS PART OF EVERY CIP PROJECT TO ENSURE THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THESE AREAS WOULD RECEIVE THE BROADBAND IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. FREE PUBLIC WI-FI, TO INCLUDE OUR AREA, THE LINKIN PARK REC CENTER IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY.

ALSO INCLUDE PARKS, ALL OF OUR FACILITIES THAT WE WOULD HAVE WI-FI FROM OUR FACILITIES TO

ASSIST THE RESIDENTS. >> THIS BOX REPRESENTS A HARD LINE BUT THAT BUSINESS CORRIDOR. SO YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT BROADBAND ACCESS, TO ALLOW ACCESS FOR THE RESIDENCE. SO THE AREAS THAT YOU OUTLINED THERE, CONCERNED WITH BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT OKAY THE PARTNERSHIP WITH LINKIN PARK, THE REC CENTER, A LOT OF OUR POPULATION TENDS TO BE WEST OF OUR CITY. WHAT HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED OVER THERE? JUST WEST OF 25TH, BETWEEN 25TH AND 29TH A LARGE SWATH OF OUR PUBLIC, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT LOOKING AT IT WITH PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY?

>> NO SIR, I AM NOT SPOKEN TO THE AUTHORITY ABOUT THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU.

WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, ALSO AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS. ALSO NORTHWEST PIONEERS PARK, WE HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED WITH THE CURRENT, BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING OUT TO THE WEST. RIGHT NOW LITTLE TO NO INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE FIRST ATTEMPT AT CREATING THAT. SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO, GET WITH OUR PARTNERS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE QUITE AN INVESTMENT. SO WE WILL WORK WITH ALL OF OUR

PARTNERS. >> $2 MILLION, THE RESCUE FUNDS.

I REALIZE THAT IT MAY BE ALLOCATED. PARTNERS OVER THERE, NOT SAYING WE RESTRETCH IT, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE THAT VOID WAS REALIZED. A NUMBER OF ENTITIES IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, PROVIDE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO CONTINUE THEIR LEARNINGS. A GREAT CONCERN BECAUSE THE POPULATION HAS SHIFTED WEST TO 25TH. SOME ASSETS OVER THERE WITH

BUILDINGS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH. >> OKAY.

OUR ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLAN, OUR DIRECTOR CAME TO YOU A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, TALKED ABOUT THIS MONUMENTAL CHANGE, MOVING FROM CENTRAL SQUARE, UTILIZE THIS FUNDING TO CREATE CONTACTLESS CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM, WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOW PLACING THESE

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GOING TO IMPLEMENT SUCH THINGS AS OUR PLAN REVIEW, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

BID MANAGEMENT. ONLINE PAYMENTS, ONLINE REQUESTS.

WOULD HELP US BE MUCH MORE CUSTOMER CENTRIC, ALSO AT THE PUSH OF A BUTTON IDENTIFY LAND, WHAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, MAKE REQUESTS TO THE CITY THAT WE CAN FULFILL IN A MUCH MORE FEASIBLE MANNER THAN WE ARE TODAY. DEFINITE INVESTMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AND MOVE THIS PROCESS ALONG HOPEFULLY MUCH QUICKER.

>> THEN, A STRONG INVESTMENT THAT I DO HAVE OUR CHIEF, HER STAFF HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO THE CITY OF WHAT FORT PIERCE, WHAT THE CHIEF HAS BROUGHT TO US. JUST DIGRESS, IF HE COULD HAVE THE CHIEF COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. BELIEVE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE NOW THE MOST ADVANCED POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE COAST, NOW GOING TO BE THE NEXT LEVEL ABOVE EVERY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. SO CHIEF, PLEASE.

HELPED ME OUT. >> THIS IS SO EXCITING FOR US. WE WANT TO REMAIN THE MOST TECHNOLOGICAL SAVVY AGENCY OF THE COAST. WE ARE THERE.

WE WANT TO REMAIN THERE, WITH OUR CAMERAS, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR OFFICERS HAVING IPHONES AND SUCH. THIS HELPS US EVEN MORE SO BECAUSE WITH OUR TASERS, IN NEED OF UPDATING. OUR TASERS UPDATE, WORKING WITH AXON, GIVING US A WONDERFUL PACKAGE, WHAT THIS PACKAGE, IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE OF THE POWER OF THE TASER, TRAINING IS MENTAL IN THAT. SO WORKING WITH US TO HELP US KEEP OUR OFFICERS INFORMED AND ON POINT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR USE.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JASON, WORKING WITH AXON TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.

>> GOOD MORNING. GOING TO A MUCH MORE ADVANCED PACKAGE, INCLUDE INCREASING OUR CAMERAS, GO UP TO 130. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO COVER WITH DAD. AS THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT, THE TASER PROGRAM, MORE ADVANCED TASER, 130 ALSO. GIVEN US MORE COVERAGE FOR THAT, BETTER MORE CABLE LESS LETHAL OPTION. PUTTING IN FLEET THREE, IN CAR VIDEO, WOULD BE A FRONT CAMERA, A CAMERA FOR THE TRANSPORT AREA. ALSO IR, AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER. EVERY VEHICLE WILL BE OUTPUTTED WITH A LICENSE PLATE READER AND THE CAMERAS. ALL OF THESE WOULD BE A SINGLE STREAM INTO ONE PACKAGE, WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE WORK ON THE OFFICERS. WOULD NOT BE ANY MORE RESOURCES. EXCUSE ME. IN ADDITION TO THAT, GO WITH THE TRAINING. VIRTUAL REALITY TRAINING SIMULATOR, WE HAVE A CHALLENGE TO MEET WHICH IS OUR OFFICES, RESOURCES, TIME MANAGEMENT. SO TIME DEMANDS, ALLOW US TO BECOME MORE MOBILE, GET US BETTER TRAINING ENVIRONMENT ON THE GO.

>> CAN I STOP YOU ONE MINUTE. >> INFRARED. BE ABLE TO RECORD IT AT NIGHT,

STILL SEE INSIDE.>> LIKE A REMOTE TRAINING. YOU CAN DO IT ANYTIME?

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> HAD SAID, SIMULATE AND ENVIRONMENT.

OUTDOORS, IT ACTUALLY WORKS GOOD BECAUSE IT GOES FROM BOTH SIDES, THE OFFICER SAID PLUS

THE SUBJECT'S SIDE. YOU CAN SEE ON BOTH SIDES. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> THE GREAT PART ABOUT THIS, WITH THE FIVE HEADSETS, US NEGOTIATING. TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC WOULD TAKE THOSE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, HELPS US WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THEY CAN EXPERIENCE THINGS HIMSELF. SO THEY AGREED TO GIVE US FIVE HEADSETS.

>> THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. >> IN CAR CAMERA. RESPONSIBILITY TO THE OFFICER?

>> THIS WILL ACTUALLY BECOME A MORE COMPLETE SYSTEM, THE OFFICER BEFORE HAD TO PUT THE CAMERA ON THE DOCK TO UPLOAD. SO ON THE SYSTEM, THE VEHICLE BECOMES ITS OWN HOTSPOT, ONCE THE CAMERA IS INTEGRATED, ALL THREE OF THOSE STREAMS ON THOSE CAMERAS GO INTO ONE SINGLE FORMAT. SO ALL ONE PACKAGE, DIRECTLY UP FROM THE VEHICLE TO THE CLOUD.

NO MORE TALKING, BECOMES A BACKUP. >> THAT IS GREAT.

>> ALL THE TIME THAT I THINK IS WASTED BY THROWING THESE OFFICERS BACK IN, THE STATION.

SO THINKING IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A CAMERA, THE GUYS WILL NEVER GET OUT ON THE ROAD.

BETTER SOLUTION. >> ON THE LICENSE PLATE READER, ALERT OFFICERS, POSSIBLY STOLEN

CARS, OR WHATEVER. >> YES. >> I WILL WAIT.

>> SO YES, CONNECTED TO THE DATA, THE DATABASE. ANY WANTED PERSONS, AUTOMATICALLY ALERT THE OFFICER TO THAT INDIVIDUAL'S PRESENCE. THE NICE THING TOO, A SUSPECT VEHICLE, ACTUALLY TO A LOCAL LIST FOR ANYBODY WE ARE LOOKING FOR, LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR

VEHICLE. WE CAN ADD THAT INFORMATION. >> THAT IS GREAT.

>> SO ONE OF THE NICE THINGS, GOING TO THE SYSTEM. IS THAT ALL OF THE CAMERAS? I'LL BE CONNECTED WIRELESSLY. INCLUDING BODY CAMERA. WITH THE CELLULAR CONNECTION.

ALLOW GPS LOCATION AND ALERTS REAL-TIME ALERTS FOR EXAMPLE ON THE SCREEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A DASHBOARD WITH LOCATION OF THE CAMERAS. THERE IS THE SIGNAL ACTIVATION, ACTIVATES ANYTIME A TASER OR WEAPON IS DEPLOYED. SO AN EXAMPLE OF A TASER ALERT, SOMEBODY HAS ARMED THEIR TASER. THE SUPERVISORS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS.

ABILITY TO LIVE STREAM INTO THAT CAMERA. THEY CAN SEE WHAT IS GOING ON

AT THAT SCENE. >> WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR? >> THE NEWEST CELL PHONE

TECHNOLOGY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THE VIEW OF THE LIVE STREAM.

IF YOU SEE THE ALERT, THE OPTION TO OPEN UP A LIVE STREAM AND VIEW WHAT THE OFFICER IS SEEING, GOES ALONG WITH THE VEHICLES TOO. YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE VEHICLE

CAMERA, THREE OFFICERS BODY CAMERA. >> I THINK THIS IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TOO.HIS WOULD COME OUT TO THE PUBLIC. AT SOME POINT, ABUNDANCE THAT

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SO THANK YOU. >> ALSO COMES WITH THE PORTAL THAT WE CAN, A LOW RISK PORTAL FOR US TO COLLECT EVIDENCE, OFTENTIMES GOING OUT TO THESE BUSINESSES, PULLING VIDEO AND PHOTOS FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SOURCE IS COMING FROM.

WE DON'T KNOW THE RISK OF A VIRUS SHARE OR SOMETHING. A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM.

THE TASER, SEVEN, MORE ADVANCED MORE RELIABLE SYSTEM. ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS, BRIGHT YELLOW. SO INDICATION OF THE WEAPON THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND.

PROVIDES A SHOW OF FORCE OPTION NOW, TO HER THE TASER, YOU CAN SPARK THE TASER AS A WARNING, IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE ADDED INTO IT. HOPEFULLY NOT USING THAT AT

ALL. >> I WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS WITH THE YELLOW.

IN NEED OF THE YELLOW, MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS DO NOT GET THE GUN AND THE TASER CONFUSED.

SOMETIMES WE GET TIGHTENED IN WHAT WE DO. >> WE KNOW THAT HAS HAPPENED IN

OTHER PLACES. >> GREATER DATA COLLECTED WITH THESE, ANYTIME THEY ARE DEPLOYED. REPORTING ON THESE IS A LOT MORE EFFICIENT AND A LOT MORE

DATA POINTS FOR US TO LOOK AT. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, THE CAMERAS IN THE VEHICLES. THE VR TRAINING, WEAPON SELECTION DRILLS.

VERSUS USING A SIDE ARM, WHICH IS ASSIMILATED SIDE ARM, AND A TASER.

SO GO THROUGH DRILLS, SCENARIOS TO DRILL IN THAT WEAPON SELECTION.

IT IS NOT THAT MUSCLE MEMORY, NOT THAT CONFUSION. ALSO BOTH SIDES OF THE SCENARIO, SUBJECT SIDE VERSUS THE OFFICER SAID.EE IT FROM BOTH POINTS, IT LEARNS HOW THE OFFICER REACTS, PARTIALLY TO INDIVIDUAL, THAT INDIVIDUAL, THAT SCENARIO, MAY NOT TREAT THE OFFICER AS WELL IN THE NEXT SCENARIO. IT BUILDS A MEMORY.

WE CAN RANDOMIZE IT, BASED ON GENDER, RACE, TO GIVE A BETTER REALITY.

>> COMMENT ON THAT IF I CAN. THAT IS IMPORTANT. WE WENT THROUGH THIS RIGHT, I THINK IMPORTANT THAT YOU HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WE DEAL AND EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY, WE WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD BECAUSE WE WERE AT LEVEL WHERE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN.

BUT I THINK THIS PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO HIGHLIGHT EVEN SOME OF THE UNCONSCIOUS BIAS THAT MAY FIGURE INTO THIS, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE.

HOW DO WE DEAL WITH IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE. THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT, MY

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DEAL WITH THOSE BIASES, HOW WE ARE DEALING WITH THAT GOING FORWARD.

>> WE DEAL WITH IT RIGHT NOW. WE PULL VIDEOS, WE DO A NUMBER OF THINGS, WE VIEW HOW THE OFFICERS ARE RESPONDING, OR NOT RESPONDING. WHEN WE FIND SOMETHING NOT AT A LEVEL THAT WE FEEL IS THERE, WE BRING THAT OFFICER IN, PROVIDE TRAINING, OR WE DO THE

APPROPRIATE DISCIPLINE. >> VERY WELL. >> VERY BRIEF EXPERIENCE.

SHOW IT AS A TWO DIMENSIONAL THING. AUTISM TRAINING.

IT GIVES PERSPECTIVE FROM THE PERSON WHO IS AUTISTIC AND FROM THE OFFICER.

>> MICHAEL, I NEED TO TAKE THIS CALL. WAIT RIGHT HERE.

>> SIR, I AM GOING TO NEED YOU TO COME BACK INSIDE AND PAY FOR THAT.

>> AT THE DEPARTMENT STORE. >> SIR, HOW ARE YOU DOING? WHAT IS GOING ON? MY NAME IS OFFICER DAVIS, MY PARTNER OFFICER TAYLOR. WE GOT A CALL FROM THE STORE

OWNER. WE NEED YOU TO COME DOWN. >> IT GIVES YOU OPTIONS.

>> PARTNER, TURN THE RADIO DOWN. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A

CRISIS TEAM. >> A SMALL CLIP OF IT. THE DRONE, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE ARE ADDING TO THIS PACKAGE. INFRARED AND CAMERAS WITH THE ZOOM ON IT. HELPFUL FOR SEARCH AND RESCUE, TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE, MAPPING.

FOR CRIME SCENES. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL WORK. BE ABLE TO GET THREE-DIMENSIONAL IMAGE OF A CRASH SCENE, OR A CRIME SCENE. TO BE ABLE TO GIVE A BETTER OVERVIEW OF WHAT OCCURRED THERE. WITH LIKE THE OTHER CAMERAS ALSO BE LIVE STREAMED. 2.47 MILLION. THE FUNDING LOOKING FORWARD IS

THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. >> THAT IS AMAZING. >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR SIX?

>> GOING TO BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL HAVE, PROBABLY AT YEAR FOUR.

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>> GET YOU THROUGH FIVE, SIX IS UP IN THE AIR. WITH THE DRONE.

OKAY, I GET IT. >> WHAT I SEE IN THIS IS AN INCREASED SAFETY FOR THE OFFICER AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, INCREASED TRANSPARENCY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I CAN SEE THAT THIS WOULD BE VERY VERY, GOING TO MAKE POLICING MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IN

A LOT OF WAYS. SO KIND OF BLOWN AWAY BY IT. >> BACK TO THAT, I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. CHANGING THE WAY LEASING IS, TAKE US TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

FIVE YEARS OF TRAINING YOUR OFFICERS, WHO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS.

THESE ARE TOOLS THEY USE ON A DAILY BASIS, I AM SURE THAT AS WE GO YEAR TO YEAR, WE PLAN ON INTEGRATING THAT INTO OUR BUDGETS, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT GOING FORWARD.

NOT JUST A FIVE YEAR AND DONE, BY THE TIME FIVE YEARS IS UP, A NEW LIST OF THINGS THAT WE ARE

GOING TO HAVE TO ADD TO THIS, PART OF YOUR NEW BUDGET. >> THIS MAKES OUR CITY SAFER, MORE OF A VIABLE INVESTMENT FOR PEOPLE. OUR TAX BASE GROWS, RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THIS IN FRONT OF US, MAKE SURE WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THE TECHNOLOGIES.

SOME OF THIS HAS CHANGED OVER A YEAR NOW. LOOKING FOR A VOLUNTEER TO TEST OUT THE TASER, I AM GOING TO VOLUNTEER THE COMMISSIONER. THIS TIME I WILL DO IT AFTER HE

DOES IT THIS TIME. >> I AM ONE AND DONE. >> YOU WILL MAKE ME SHUT UP

RIGHT AWAY. >> A VALID POINT. THIS WAS TECHNOLOGY.

IT CHANGES THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU ARE HAVING. THIS WAS SOME TIME AGO THAT I SAW THAT. PERPLEXED AS TO YOU KNOW THIS WAS AVAILABLE SOME TIME AGO, ALONG TIME AGO. ANOTHER SAGE DIMENSION, HOPEFULLY IT WILL HELP YOU

CONTROL. >> IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE.

YOU NEED TO BALANCE WHEN IT GETS PERFECTED. >> TRUE.

>> THINGS HAVE TO HAVE TIME TO IMPROVE. >> WE HAVE TASERS NOW, AT THE TOP OF THE LINE NOW, CHANGING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AT OUR BEST.> RED YELLOW.

>> YES, SIR. >> THE BODY CAMERAS AND TASERS, HOW MANY IN QUANTITY?

>> 130. >> WHAT ABOUT EXPANSION OF THAT? OBVIOUSLY THAT COMES AT A PRICE. SAY WE WANT FIVE MORE, AND TO

THE CONTRACT. >> I AM WILLING TO DO THAT. I AM WILLING TO GO AND EXPLORE.

>> TWO OPTIONS BE ADDED TO THE EXISTING CONTRACT OR REPLACE THE CONTRACT WITH THE ADD-ON ON IT. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS, REPLACE ALL OF

OUR CONTRACTS, WITH THIS ONE. >> ONE IS THIS GOING TO START? >> YOU HAVE HIM ON SPEED DIAL,

SOMEBODY.HIS CAN BE LAUNCHED RIGHT AWAY IS WHAT I AM SAYING. >> ALL THE CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING. SO LEGAL CAN VIEW IT, WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.

>> MY THINKING IS, THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW.

IN MY OPINION. BECAUSE REALLY STEPPING UP OUR GAME, GOING TO BE THE MOST ADVANCED POLICE FORCE ON THE TREASURE COAST. SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY SHARE WITH OUR FELLOW JURISDICTIONS. BE PROUD OF, SO JUST I DON'T

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TO KNOW TOO. >> WHEN THEY CAME OUT, WE ASKED OF OUR BOARD TO COME, WE WANTED HIM TO SEE IT, HE ALSO DID THE VIRTUAL TRAINING. SHOT THE TASER.

SO SHARING WITH THEM BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, WE WANTED HIS INPUT. IT WAS ALL POSITIVE SO THAT WAS GREAT.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE A TIMETABLE. >> RIGHT. >> ALLOCATED THIS AMOUNT, WORKING THROUGH ALL THOSE SPECIFICS. WE INTEND ON IMPLEMENTING OUR

CONCEPTS. >> WE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THE MONEY, USE THIS WITH THAT MONEY. WE KNOW THOSE TWO THINGS FOR SURE.

>> YES. >> I WILL WAIT UNTIL ITEM H. >> A COUPLE MORE SLIDES ON THIS. PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WITH THE CIP, MENTIONED SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS OF THE MARINA. SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, WE HAVE HAD SOME SITUATIONS AT THE MARINA, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS CAUSE FOR ACTION ON BEHALF OF OF THE CITY, PART IN THE DESIGN OF THIS MARINA SAFETY SYSTEM. WE WANT TO INVEST IN THAT AS WELL. THEN OF COURSE PREMIUM FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, THE FUNDS ACCENTUATE POSITIONS IN PUBLIC WORKS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT IS PART OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AS WELL. THEN I WILL LET JOHN A SPEAK TO THE REVENUE PORTION.

>> ONE OF THE ALLOWANCES IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOUP ANY LOST REVENUE OR PROJECTED LOST REVENUE THAT WE EXPERIENCED DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

THE STATE HAS BEEN CREATIVE IN GIVING US TEMPLATE TO UTILIZE, WE TAKE THE REVENUE THAT WE EXPERIENCE, THE FULL YEAR PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, ANY REVENUE THAT WE LOST, DURING THE PANDEMIC IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, ANY REVENUE THAT WE COULD COME FALL BACK AS A RESULT OF THAT.

PUTTING ALL THE INFORMATION IN, ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE CAN RECOUP AND UTILIZE AS LOST REVENUE.

MOST OF IT, BETWEEN $1 MILLION THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AS POTENTIAL LOST REVENUE.

BASED ON A PERCENTAGE WISE, NOT IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE 10 MILLION, THEY TAKE A PERCENTAGE

OF THAT. BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE. >> NOT HAVING THE THEATER OPEN,

>> IT TAKES ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL BEEN REDUCED ALL OF OUR SHARING REVENUE, OUR SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS. THE MARINA PAID ANYTHING WHERE WE EXPERIENCED REVENUE LOSS, THEY TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

>> OKAY.> FINAL SLIDE IS JUST THE ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT BEFORE, TOTAL TO INCLUDE FUTURE PROJECTS TO BE DETERMINED 1.2 MILLION. FLEXIBILITY OF COURSE, THROUGH THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEARS. SO ALLOCATION OF $13.5 MILLION, THE CONCEPTS AND THE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT TO YOU TODAY, OF COURSE ANY IDEAS OR CONCEPTS THAT YOU HAVE WOULD BE WELCOMED AS WELL. WE DO FEEL LIKE THESE ARE ALLOWABLE, LAUNCHES INTO OUR

FUTURE, AGAIN MAKE US MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE OPERATION. >> ON THE BROADBAND, I READ IT

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QUICKLY, 2 MILLION THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THAT EMAIL? >> 2 MILLION OVERALL BROADBAND ALLOCATION WITHIN THE 13.5. 200,000 CONTRIBUTION FOR THE PREVIOUS ALLOCATION FOR THE LINKIN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONAL 800,000 BASED UPON THE EXPANDED PARAMETERS WITH THE FIBER INSULATION. THE LINKIN PARK ON ITS OWN, $1 MILLION.

2 MILLION FOR OUR ACTUAL CITYWIDE BROADBAND. >> OVERLAP THEN?

3 MILLION? >> NO, SIR. INCLUDED.

>> OKAY. >> SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, ONE THING THE PANDEMIC TAUGHT US, ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUTSIDE, ACTIVITIES, WE'VE SEEN A GREAT USE OF THE EXERCISE PATH OVER BY THE BRIDGE. SOME TALK ABOUT EXPANDING DATA THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. IS THAT IN THIS BUDGET AT ALL HERE?

>> NOT IN THE ARP, WORKING ON THE CREEK AREA. ALSO THE PARK AREA.

WITH OUR IMPROVEMENT SITE. >> THAT BE AN AREA? GOING TO GET GRANT FUNDING TO DO THAT, AWARDED TO DO TWO SECTIONS OF THE CREEK, THEN ONE OTHER PART.

>> I THINK THAT IS FANTASTIC. PEOPLE REALLY HAVE USED IT, MORE USE OF THAT THROUGHOUT OUR

CITY. >> NOT IN A PANDEMIC, OUTSIDE VENUE YEAR-ROUND.

IT MAKES SENSE FOR US. >> ANYTHING ELSE? SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU CAN MAKE THAT PRESENTATION ANYTIME. THIS IS A GREAT YEAR.

MOVING ON? NEXT ITEM CITY COMMISSION, COMPENSATION REPORT BY CITY

[d. City Commission Districts/Re-Districting and Compensation Report by City Attorney and City Clerk]

ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK. >> MR. SWEENEY ARE YOU STARTING?

>> OUR CLERK HAD TO EXCUSE YOURSELF, SHE HAD OTHER MATTERS.

I AM NOT UP TO SPEED ON HERS. I FEEL ADEQUATE I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO HER MEMO AND MY MEMO AS WELL. SEVERAL BULLET POINTS IN HER MEMO, SEVERAL OF THE ISSUES IN MIND. I GUESS YOUR PREFERENCE, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH? REALISTICALLY THIS IS MORE DISCUSSION.

WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? >> START WITH HER MEMO. SOMETHING THAT FOR SURE HAS TWO TAKE PLACE IN MY OPINION WHICH IS MAKING SURE WHEN WE HAVE THE CANDIDATES, INDEED IT THE

REQUIREMENTS. >> HAPPY TO START WITH THAT. >> ALL OF YOU I HOPE THAT AVAILABLE IN FRONT OF YOU AT LEAST ATTACHED TO THE ONLINE AGENDA.

THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN IN THAT ARE THE COMMISSION CONVERSATION, ELIGIBILITY, LENGTH OF RESIDENCY, SOMETHING BOTH SHE AND I TALKED ABOUT SO I CAN ADDRESS AT MORE IN MY MEMO. THE CONVERSATION, YOUR PAY HAS BEEN DONE BY ORDINANCE.

IT IS OUTLINED IN OUR CITY ORDINANE. GOING BACK TO 1981, FIRST TIME IT WAS CHANGE, SECTION 2 Ã19. HOWEVER, 2016 STARTED TO RECEIVE THE SAME RAISES THAT WERE IMPROVED FOR THE EMPLOYEES. THAT HAS CONTINUED.

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AND THIS IS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT REFLECTED IN THE CODE, DIRECTLY TO THE QUALIFYING FEE THAT MUST BE PAID. THE FIRST ITEM, SOME JURISDICTIONS THAT TIE IT TO CPI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE AS AN AD, ULTIMATELY THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO GET DIRECTION ON IN THE FUTURE GOING TO BE A RAISE, PROPOSED TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES WHERE THE COST OF LIVING, THE POLICY OF THIS COMMISSION, REDUCED TO AN ORDINANCE TO APPLY TO YOU, SO IT IS CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE AUTOMATIC.

YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL. SAY IT WILL BE AUTOMATIC.

THE FIRST TACKING POINT WITH SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS A CAR ALLOWANCE.

SHOULD BE AND IS CONSIDERED PART OF CONVERSATION. AS WELL AS IN THEIR RETIREMENT PLAN IN THE CODE. THE FINAL PART, BENEFIT NOT ADDRESSED AND SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHOICE. IF IT IS, SOME DIRECTION THAT THAT WILL BE TIED TO COMPENSATION. THAT IS THE FIRST CHUNK. LET ME GO INTO THE NEXT ONE, I KNOW THIS WAS A BIG ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE THERE WAS LITIGATION.

SET FORTH THE ELIGIBILITY FOR HOW YOU BECOME A CANDIDATE, LANGUAGE IDENTIFIED, PRESENTED FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE ELECTION TO WHICH THE LAUGHTER BECOMES A CANDIDATE.

AS A FOLLOW ON TO THAT, PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WOULD WEATHER GIVES US THE BONES IF YOU WILL ON A LARGE LEGAL ISSUES, FILL IN THE MEAT. THE ORDINANCE HAS PROVIDED SOME I BELIEVE VALUABLE STANDARDS FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY TO ESTABLISH THAT YOU WOULD BE A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE. AGAIN PART OF THE BACKUP MATERIAL.

NO LONGER IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY. NO AUTHORIZED ABILITY OTHERWISE UNDER FLORIDA LAW, REMOTELY IN MEETINGS. SUCH AS A SUNSHINE MEETING LIKE THE COMMISSION MEETING. IT IS DISFAVORED, I WOULD SAY. ERY STRONGLY.

WE ALSO AS A CITY ARE GOVERNED BY RULES OF ORDER. SECTION 2 Ã49.

IF WE HAVE SOME POSITION, OUTLINED IN OUR ORDINANCES. OTHERWISE DEFAULT TO ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER. AS A RESULT OF THAT, MY READING OF ROBERTS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT BECAUSE AGAIN, AS YOU ALL KNOW YOU CANNOT VOTE BY PROXY, CANNOT VOTE REMOTELY. I WOULD BE VERY HESITANT TO SAY IT WILL BE APPROPRIATE GOING FORWARD, OTHER REASONS BUT I THINK ITSELF IN OUR PREDICAMENT.

TO ALLOW REMOTE, GOING OUT ON A LIMB, REAL GOOD CHANCE THE CITY WOULD BE IN LITIGATION.

>> ALLOWED IT PAST THE EMERGENCY PERIOD. >> WE HAVE, I THINK WE DID

ALLOW IT ON AT LEAST ONE OCCASION. >> SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE. THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS IN MRS. COX'S MEMO.

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TO GIVE DIRECTION. >> COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? I DON'T MIND STARTING ON THE ELIGIBILITY ORDINANCES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, WE NEED TO GIVE MS. COX, THE GUIDELINES SO THAT SHE CAN ACT WITH CONFIDENCE THAT SHE IS DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR CITY. SO WHAT SHE HAS DONE IS SAID THAT THE PERSON WHO WAS QUALIFYING FOR OFFICE HAS TO PRESENT CREDENTIALS OR PROOF THAT THEY HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY OR A QUALIFIED LOCKED DOOR IN THE CITY 4 AT LEAST TWO YEARS. I THINK I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

>> I CAN READ IT TO YOU. HAVING MET THE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, DOCUMENTATION, PROPERTY LEASE, UTILITY BILLS, FLORIDA DRIVERS LICENSE OR CARD.

AGAIN, SEVERAL OTHER MUSIC, STANDARD TO BE UTILIZED IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

>> DISCUSSION? >> QUICK QUESTION. TENDS TO BE SOMETHING YOU KNOW, UTILITY WILL ESTABLISH RESIDENCY. BY MOST STANDARDS I THINK WOULD

WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY DOING TOO. >> THAT REALLY IS THE GENESIS

OF THIS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I PRESENTED MY ID, MAKING THIS MORE FORMAL?

>> DO NOT HAVE ANY STANDARD WHATSOEVER. PART OF THE ISSUE IS THE DEFAULT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU DEFAULT TO THE GUIDEBOOK, IT SAYS PURELY, THEREFORE IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, I SWEAR AND AFFIRM I LIVED AT THIS ADDRESS, IN OUR CASE MIX COX HAS NO ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THAT WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE

BEEN ON THE BOOKS. >> EVEN CHALLENGE WHETHER THEY GIVING THE REAL NAME.

>> INTERESTING. OBVIOUSLY YOU SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT.

REMOVED THE SCHOOL BOARD OR EXECUTIVE AS A RESULT. I UNDERSTAND THIS GOING FORWARD. I KNOW YOU SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT SWEARING WHERE YOU LIVE, I AM

SURPRISED WE DO NOT GO TO COURT WITH THAT. >> I CAN TELL YOU.

WAS NOT MEETING BECAUSE OF COVID-19. THE DIVISION SAID WELL WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT THE STATE ATTORNEY SAYS. ALLEGEDLY LIED UNDER OATH.

SO SAID I AM NOT TOUCHING, SEE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS. O WHAT YOU HAD IS BY THE TIME THAT HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN COURT, PERHAPS BUT BECAUSE OF COVID-19 THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

SO THE PERSON WAS ON THE BALLOT. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER. >> FLIP THAT COIN. RIGHT NOW EVIDENCE THAT WAS PROVIDED IS SWEARING THAT THE INFORMATION THAT NEVER WAS GIVEN TO THE CLERK WAS ACCURATE. SO NOW YOU TAKE A STEP FARTHER, I NEED TO SEE SOME PROOF, DOES THE CLERK HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISQUALIFY THAT CANDIDATE AT THAT TIME?

>> DOES SAY THAT THE COMMISSIONER, IF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE CLERK DOES NOT ÃI APOLOGIZE. THE ABILITY TO SAY, NO AND THEN THEY CAN APPEAL IT TO THE

CLERK. >> TO THE COURT.>> FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT CREATES A LIABILITY FOR THE CITY. SO JUST WITH THAT, HAVING THAT SPECIFIC FAILURE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT PROOF, COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THE CITY IS NOT

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I CAME IN FROM SOME OTHER THIRD USC-JJSC1029

>> THERE IS CASE LAW IN FLORIDA, NOT IN THIS AREA OF THE STATE. GOVERNED BY THE FOURTH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL BASED IN PALM BEACH.

VIRTUALLY NO CASE LIAR, THERE IS OTHER CASE LAW THAT DISFAVORS TWO YEAR LENGTH. IS IT PER SE? I DON'T KNOW IT IS PER SE. IT COULD BE BECAUSE THEY CAN BECOME BINDING ON US IF WE DON'T HAVE CASE LAW OR A REASON TO CHALLENGE THAT POSITION. HERE, YOU HAVE A CASE FROM THE TAMPA AREA. IT IS BINDING.

IN THE CHARTER. IN THE CHARTER.

>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.HAT GIVES A LOT OF SIGNIFICANCE IN THE CASE. I WOULD THINK IT IS IN THE

SIGNIFICANCE. >> WHAT IS THE RECOVERY ON THAT? LET'S SAY IT IS CHALLENGE.

A TIME EVENT GOING ON HERE, LIKE 90 DAYS, WHAT IS THE RECOVERY FOR THAT? WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR THAT? FOUND TO BE DISFAVORED IN OUR TWO YEAR TERM, THE COURTS FOUND FOR THE DEFENDANT OR FOR THE CANDIDATE, HOW WOULD THAT END

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UP OUT OF CURIOSITY? >> ALLOWS A CHALLENGING THAT PROVISION. IF THAT CANDIDATE WERE SUCCESSFUL, SAYS I HAVE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR A YEAR, APPROPRIATE. COURT AGREED WITH THAT ARGUMENT OUR CHARTER WITHOUT THAT PROVISION STRUCK.

>> VERSUS AN APPOINTED POSITION.

I DO THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.

>> IN ADDITION, TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENCY, I THINK IT SHOULD BE PROVEN, I THINK SUBMIT THE DOCUMENTATION.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE CHALLENGE SO MAY APPEAL TO THE DECISION OF THE CLERK, BECAUSE THE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, ANY OTHER THIRD-PARTY WAY, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WE CAN PUT IN THERE BEFORE IT GOES TO CIRCUIT COURT? JUST GIVE IT ANOTHER LAYER OF REVIEW.

THAT DOES MAKE LAWFUL DECISIONS.

AM I JUST REPEATING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY?

>> I THINK A VALID POINT. UNLIKE THE JUDGE, WHO WAS INDEPENDENT. AS A BODY ARE PAYING A SPECIAL

MAGISTRATE. >> THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE

QUESTION. >> MAY BE LESS HESITANT.

I AGREE THAT IF THERE WERE A CHALLENGE, AGAIN THE WAY THE CHALLENGE WORKS, THE PERSON DENIED ACCESS.

THE PERSON GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE QUALIFIED, GOING TO BE SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED WOULD TYPICALLY FILE FOR INJUNCTION. WHICH IS A QUICK PROCEDURAL IN CIRCUIT COURT. GOES TO THE TOP OF THE LIST AND WOULD RECEIVE THEIR PRIORITY THAT IT DESERVES, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEARINGS, RECENTLY BEEN REALLY TALKING UP THEIR ABILITY TO PROVIDE ESSENTIALLY JUDGING FOR SPECIAL PMODERATE TYPE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD FIT HERE. I DO THINK IN THIS CASE WE'VE SEEN CHALLENGES IN THE CIRCUIT IN OTHER CITIES, THEY GO VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE IF THE PERSON IS QUALIFIED, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE BALLOT. SO I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY

AGAIN THE MODEL METHOD. >> OKAY.

OTHER QUESTION STICKING TO THAT, STATEMENT IN FACT, SUBLEASE AGREEMENT COULD ANNEX AT WILL.

I AGREE WITH THAT. THE PERSON MUST BE REGISTERED

TO VOTE FOR TWO YEARS. >> DO WE HAVE AN AGE LIMITATION OF WHO CAN RUN FOR OFFICE? LET'S SAY I HAVE A 17 -YEAR-OLD LIVING HERE SINCE BIRTH, THEY FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK, THEY

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>> THEY HAD TO BE REGISTERED TO VOTE FOR TWO YEARS.

>> GOING TO BRING UP ALONG WITH THAT, REGISTERED TO VOTE FOR TWO YEARS, THAT IS THE WAY THE LANGUAGE READS IN THE CHARTER.

SO I WOULD ADD BECAUSE YOU CAN SHOW YOUR HISTORY.

I WOULD ADD THAT AS YOU AND I HAVE TAUGHT, A REAL IFFY THING SO NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT RESIDENCY, TALKING ABOUT BEING A QUALIFIED ELECTRIC. TO ANSWER, I DO NOT KNOW.

QUALIFIED ELECTOR FOR TWO YEARS, HAS TO WAIT TWO YEARS, BEFORE THEY CAN RUN. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY OFF

THE BAT. >> WE ADDED REGISTER ELECTOR, FOR THE TWO YEAR PRIOR TO QUALIFY.

I LISTED ANYWHERE ELSE CURRENTLY?

IN THE REQUIREMENT NOW? >> GOING BACK TO THE CHARTER NOW. I AM NOT SURE I WANT TO TELL SOMEONE KNOW. I AM NOT SURE I DO.

>> I AM OKAY WITH SAYING NO. >> I WOULD HAVE A QUESTION ON WHERE THAT IS BASE, WHAT ARE WE BASING THAT ON RIGHT?

>> IF SOMEONE IS ANNEXED, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, ALONG THE

SAME LINES. >> SECTION 60, REGISTRATION.

IN THE BOOKS AND RECORDS AS PROVIDED BY LAW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE COUNTY OF ELECTIONS BE MODELING THE PROCESS. THAT THE STATE USES.

I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PREQUALIFY IF YOU ARE 16.

UP TO ADD LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS PRIOR TO TURNING 18.

>> YOU CAN PREQUALIFY. THE MINUTE YOU BECOME 18 YOU

ARE QUALIFIED. >> IN SUPPORT OF A COUPLE THINGS, THE PROOF OF RESIDENCY, CONSISTENT.

AT THE STATE LEVEL, IN THEIR LANGUAGE YOU MUST BE RESIDENT IN YOUR AREA FOR TWO YEARS. THAT HAS BEEN IN THE CHARTER, UNCOMFORTABLE THOUGH IS YOU KNOW REQUIRING A PERSON MUST BE PREGISTERED FOR TWO YEARS, SOME TYPE OF ACTION WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTORAL PROCESS. GOING TO NEED SOME HELP WITH THAT ONE, PEOPLE ARE MOTIVATED TO GET INVOLVED.

THE RIGHT TO NOT VOTE, LOCAL ADVOCACY MAY HAVE CHANGED AND THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED, I AM GOING TO NEED SOME HELP

UNDERSTANDING THAT. >> THE QUALIFIED ELECTOR.

>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ME? >> I THOUGHT THAT IS THE WAY

THE LANGUAGE READS. >> ANOTHER SECTION, 60 3A.

>> ABILITY TO PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN?

>> I APOLOGIZE. ANY LOCKED DOOR OF THE CITY RESIDED FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE ELECTION FOR

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IT. >> QUALIFIED UNLOCKED FOR TWO

YEARS, THAT IS WHAT YOU SIGN. >> CORRECT.

>> I THINK THE FIRST SUGGESTING, THIS IS A PROCESS.

THIS IS A BIG ITEM, HANGING OUT THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

IN BETWEEN ELECTIONS BUT NOT FOR MUCH LONGER, CHANGING THIS, ALREADY CLOSER THAN TWO YEARS TO THE NEXT ELECTION.

SO SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE DELEGATED IN A WAY THAT THE PROCESS MOVES FORWARD, MS. COX AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD. TWO PARTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAYBE BE TWEAKED OR FIND DIFFERENT PATHWAY FORWARD.

BUT AGAIN SOME CONSENSUS ON THE ASPECT OF PROVING YES, I DO LIVE WHERE I LIVE, OBJECTIVE ON ITS FACE, THAT REALLY IS PROBABLY ÃI LIVE WHERE I LIVE, PROBABLY THE EASIEST PART TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS. TALKING ABOUT LANGUAGE, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU MODIFY SOMETHING THAT IS DELINEATED IN THE ORDINANCE. A BACKUP IS EASIER, ADDING THE MEAT TO THE SKELETON. BUT REALLY TRYING TO PARSE OUT QUALIFIED ELECTOR IN THOSE TIME PERIODS, DIFFICULT TO DO BY

ORDINANCE. >> NOT PASSIONATE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, PASSIONATE ABOUT KEEPING THE CHARTER.

I CANNOT REMEMBER, I DON'T HAVE THE FORM IN FRONT OF ME.

I READ IT AS A CONTRACT. YEAH, NOT IN PARTIAL OR PARTIAL TO THE QUALIFIED ELECTOR FOR TWO YEARS, SOMEONE MIGHT WAIT TO BE 45 UNTIL THEY SIGN UP TO VOTE, LIVING HERE AS A

RESIDENT. >> THEY SHOULD HAVE VOTED

BEFORE. >> I AM SORRY.

I FEEL DIFFERENTLY. >> THIS IS A CONVERSATION.

I AM GOING TO DO MY HOMEWORK ON THIS, SO SOMETHING I AM TRYING TO BE A PURIST AND UNDERSTAND THE CHARTER AND HOW IT WAS WRITTEN. JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW, CAUGHT WITH THAT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT DONE BY

NOW. >> THE OTHER PART OF IT, EASY AVENUE TO QUALIFIED RESIDENCY. ANOTHER PART, REMEMBER YOU WRITE SOME LANGUAGE, IT IS EASY TO SAY YEAH I HAVE BEEN YOUR VOTING FOR TWO YEARS, EASY PART OF THE PROOF OUR PRESIDENCY.

LIKE NUMBER ONE PROBABLY BESIDES THE DRIVERS LICENSE.

>> YOU CAN BE REGISTERED, YOU MIGHT NOT EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT

TO VOTE. >> THAT IS FINE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE VOTED. >> I WANT TO GET COMFORTABLE

WITH THAT. >> YES, SIR.

>> NOT ONLY IN THIS ISSUE BUT ALL THE ISSUES WE HAVE HAD WERE FOLKS ARE TRYING JEALOUS WHERE THEY LIVE.

WHEREVER I HAD TO QUALIFY, THAT IS WHERE I LIVE.

BUT I GO HOME TO PORT ST. LUCIE OR VERO BEACH, KIND OF A FUNNY

THING. >> THE FOLKS THAT ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE TO KNOW THOSE PEOPLE HAVE INVESTED INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU ARE, A WEEKEND HOME IN FORT PIERCE, YOU LIVE IN MIAMI, A PLACE UP IN NORTH CAROLINA YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHERE YOU REALLY RESIDE.HERE HOME BASE REALLY IS.

>> THAT SHOULD BE ON YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE.

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>> YOU SHOULD WHEN YOU GET HERE, IF YOU MOVED TO FORT PIERCE, THIS BECOMES YOUR HOME BASE, YOU SHOULD REGISTER TO VOTE FOR THAT ADDRESS. BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER IF NOT, MASSAGE AND IT WILL BE USED, YOU KNOW MANIPULATED TO A POINT WHERE IT WILL BE CONVENIENT FOR THAT PERSON TO BECOME A CANDIDATE, NOT THE RIGHT THING FOR FORT PIERCE.

>> MAYBE I HAVE THE VANTAGE, I LIVED THIS FOR MONTHS.

I LIVED THIS. I LOOKED AT IT AT EVERY ANGLE, INVOLVED WITH THE LITIGATION, ANXIETY THAT OUR CLERK WENT THROUGH, THE TROUBLES. MY MAIN GOAL IS THIS COULD BE OUR PROBLEM. IF WE COULD PUT SOMETHING FAIRLY SIMPLE IN PLACE THAT PROTECTS THE CITY, BECAUSE I WOULD BE VERY ANGRY IF I VOTED FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT QUALIFIED. THAT IS THROWING YOUR VOTE

AWAY. >> I AGREE.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF I COULD.

>> THE MONEY PART, SO I KNOW THE STATE TALKS ABOUT PERCENTAGE OF THE SALARY. IT IS WHAT IT TAKES TO QUALIFY, IN THE AMOUNT. CAN THAT BE MODIFIED AND PUT DOWN AS A NUMBER, ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A FORMULA?

>> I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT SECTION.

I BELIEVE THAT IS BY THRESHOLD. IT IS A PERCENTAGE.

>> I APOLOGIZE. >> IMPOSE THAT UPON OURSELVES, A CANDIDATE. HERE IS WHY I BRING THAT UP UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SALARIES, BUT I THINK THE NUMBER IS TOO LITTLE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WATCHING THIS PROCESS, FROM A YOUNG MAN UNTIL TODAY, I THINK THE CITY QUALIFICATION AMOUNT IS TOO LOW.

>> A LOT LOWER THAN THE COUNTIES.

>> THE COUNTY $5000, A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

ALMOST 300 NOW I BELIEVE. SO I BELIEVE IT IS TOO LITTLE.

>> YOU CAN GET SIGNATURES. ISN'T THAT HOW YOU QUALIFY?

>> I DID MY FIRST TIME WITH SIGNATURES.

ACTUALLY ASK FOR A WAIVER I THINK IT IS A SIGNATURE.

ALIGNMENT WITH THAT FINANCIAL OBLIGATION.

>> 130 I THINK FOR OUR DISTRICT.

>> AT THE END, IN THE CHARTER OF THE LANGUAGE.

I AM KIND OF CUTTING HERE, MODIFY CANDIDATE FOR ELECTION.

AT THE SAME TIME PAID TO THE CITY CLERK.

$25. ESTABLISHED BY STATE LAW.

YOU PAY $25. IN THE CHARTER.

DEFAULTING TO AGAIN THOSE AMOUNTS THAT STATE LAW IS GIVING. TRYING TO MAKE SURE SHE IS FOLLOWING THE LAW. THAT IS HOW THAT IS FORMULATED.

>> BASED ON A STATE LAW. >> CORRECT.

>> SO CONSENSUS TO GIVE MS. COX A WAY FORWARD OR DO WE NEED

MORE INFORMATION? >> I LIKE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. IT ESTABLISHES PARAMETERS.

GUIDELINES. >> WE DON'T ASK FOR THE VOTER

REGISTRATION, IS THAT IN THERE? >> IT IS IN THEIR.

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>> SO I LIKE IT LIKE IT IS TOO. >> STILL HAVING SOME TREPIDATION WITH THIS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT GOING FORWARD. A PROCESS CONSENT, COME BEFORE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO YOU KNOW INPUT.

SO I THINK THAT IS FAIR, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD. THE ONLY CONCERN, I AM GOING TO

DO MY HOMEWORK ON THAT TOO. >> THAT IS THE LOW HANGING

FRUIT. >> THAT WAS THE EASY ONE.

GO BACK TO THE MEMO, CONSENSUS ON AT LEAST TWO THINGS.

>> I THINK I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER, ONE OF THE THINGS, SALARY. WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED MAYOR, WHEN THE STAFF WOULD GET RAISES RED COMMISSIONER SAID THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE COMMISSIONERS. WE LOST THAT COMMISSIONER.

SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS EVERY TIME THE STAFF GOT RAISES, THE COMMISSION WAS GETTING RAISES. I THINK WHAT THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD THE COMMISSION ESTABLISH ITS OWN, OR ALONG WITH WHATEVER THE RAISES ARE. I THINK THAT OUR TRADITION, SET BY ORDINANCE SEPARATE FROM THE STAFF.

ANYBODY HAVE AN OPINION RIGHT NOW?

>> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHEN THE LAST DATE THAT THE COMMISSION TACKLE THIS, I KNOW IT WAS RIGHT AFTER FRANCIS. I REMEMBER IT VERY VIVIDLY.

IT HAPPENED IN 2004, ADOPTED IN 2005, A LONG TIME.

16, 17 YEARS AGO. A PROBLEM WITH THAT, UNDERSTAND IT, ALMOST RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT ON SOME REGULAR BASIS. EVERY FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN PEACE WITH WHAT IS GOING ON.

PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THAT LOOK AT IT, SEE THE TIME INVOLVED, SEE WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE, JUST NOT WORTH THE EFFORT.

IF WE DON'T AT LEAST TRY, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS EVERYBODY, PUT IN A LOT OF TIME FOR VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SALARY I WOULD SAY.

BUT IN STEP SOMEWHAT OF HOW WE MOVE THIS FORWARD, IT BECOMES NOT SO MUCH AN ISSUE, NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

WE MAY ATTRACT A CALIBER OF PERSON, HELPFUL FOR THE CITY.

TO THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY. CONTRIBUTION THAT THEY MAKE.

SO MY BIG PROBLEM OF IT IS THAT YOU KNOW, IF WE SAY THAT WE WILL DO IT BY ORDINANCE, ALSO SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED

EVERY FIVE YEARS. >> MADAM MAYOR, BUT IN OUR REQUIREMENT IN SUBSECTION 2 Ã 19, EXACTLY DOWN TO THE PENNY.

A SUBSECTION E, SHALL BE EVALUATED.

EVERY TWO YEARS STARTING JUNE 1, OR WHATEVER.

YOU TAKE A VOTE ON IT, THEN LOOK AT IT.

IT COULD BE ANNUALLY. IT COULD BE WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT, THE DEFAULT AGAIN, THEY DO IT IF THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE CPI.

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ANOTHER WAY IT IS DONE IN A LOT OF PLACES.>> TO GET IT AWAY FROM THE INCREASES OF THE EMPLOYEES.

I THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT WE SET OURSELVES APART ORDINANCE.

THE SIDE TO ME, A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS OR BE CONSIDERED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LEVEL OF COMPENSATION, YOU CAN DO AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE IN THIS JOB, WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE BARELY ANYTHING IN TERMS OF OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS, WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE A LOT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE ALLOWANCES FOR THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION. THE CITY INCREASED DRASTICALLY.

THEY USED THE SAME EXAMPLE THAT YOU DID, PERHAPS ATTRACT A BETTER QUALITY OF THE CANDIDATE, OR MORE PEOPLE WILL BE WILLING TO DO IT IF THE CONVERSATION IS BETTER.

BUT YOU SAY WELL, WHAT IS WRONG WITH US? WE HAVE ALREADY ATTRACTED CANDIDATES.

THIS IS MY OPINION, DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD RUN FOR THE MONEY. I THINK THAT YOU RUN FOR SERVICE. BUT I AM OLD SCHOOL THAT WAY.

>> SO AS THE NEWEST PERSON TO CANDIDACY UP HERE, I THINK THAT MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON SOME THINGS I HAVE EARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, NUMBER ONE I THINK, NOT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR CONVERSATION IS QUITE FRANKLY, SOME THAT HAVE OUTRAGEOUS NUMBERS. WAS QUITE SURPRISED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK EVEN GOING FORWARD IN TODAY'S TIME, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO THINGS GOING FORWARD, ANYTHING OF AN INCREASE, NOT ONLY MAY BE BRING BETTER CANDIDATES BUT ALSO MAKE THE REQUIREMENT OF THAT OFFICE GO UP, NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE FOR PEOPLE NOT TO PUT HIS PARTICIPATE. WELL KNOWN IN THE COMMUNITY.

LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE DOING THE WORK AND DO THEY WANT TO REMAIN THERE, GIVEN TO YOU IF THINGS GOT OUT, WHEN THINGS ARE COMMUNICATED CORRECTLY, THEY'RE GOING TO DEMAND MORE.

IF THAT COMMITMENT IS NOT MET, THEY WILL NOT BE HERE ANYMORE.

I THINK THAT IS HOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS. DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE COMMITMENT ON THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAYS, I HAVE TO BE HERE. AS A PERSON THAT IS AN ENTREPRENEUR THAT HAS TWO GENERATE INCOME FOR MY WELFARE, CHALLENGING. ALWAYS A BALANCE HERE, EXCEPT FOR MADAM MAYOR, NOT QUITE SURE WHAT HE DOES FOR INCOME, THE TWO OF US, ENTREPRENEURS AND WORKING FOR PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

ALWAYS A BALANCE OF HOW DO WE DO THIS, DO A GOOD JOB TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT.

MORE RESIDENTS, ASKED TO SEE US MORE, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I AM OKAY WITH HAVING A CONVERSATION.

YOU KNOW WORTH EVERY DIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET PAID FOR DOING THAT, IF NOT YOU NEED TO ASK THE PERSON WHY NOT.

I THINK THAT IS FAIR. >> YES, SIR.

>> I WILL JUMP ON TOP OF THAT, SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT. DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY

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FOUR YEAR TERM, YOU HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE CITY FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN BE A PART OF THE PLAN.

RETIREMENT I KNOW BACK WHEN THIS WAS ESTABLISHED, A COUPLE MEETINGS A MONTH. A COUPLE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

>> REALLY A PART-TIME JOB AT THE TIME.

>> TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR SCHEDULES.

SOMEWHERE AT 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, MAYBE ACROSS TOWN OR ANOTHER PART OF THE COUNTY, THERE IS A WHOLE DAY GONE, IT IS FUN. IT IS WONDERFUL.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE PACKAGE, BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THIS. NEVER WANT SOMEONE TO RUN A SECOND TERM JUST BECAUSE TWO GET INTO THEIR RETIREMENT SYSTEM. IT SHOULD BE WHATEVER THAT IS, COMPENSATION PACKAGE, COMMENSURATE TO REALLY WHAT THE JOB IS AND WHAT IS EXPECTED OUT OF THAT PERSON TO MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK CREATED 30 YEARS AGO, IT IS TIME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. NOT SAYING I AM HUNDRED PERCENT FOR TAKING THAT AWAY, IT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT.

REALLY WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO.

RETIREMENT, THE BIG PART IF THAT IS THE LONGEVITY.

WELL, OUR CYCLES ARE FOUR YEARS, I MEAN COME ON.

>> YOU WANT TO KEEP IT FOR THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT IS A GREAT

BENEFIT. >> THE LOYAL TEAM, LONGEVITY THAT GOES WITH THAT PROGRAM. OVER IN 40 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO GET BACK IN LINE AGAIN AND GO AFTER IT.

JUST A THOUGHT I HAD WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. MAYBE THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING. BASICALLY MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS, IS RESPONSIBLE TO THE TIME ELEMENT THAT WE

HAVE. >> SOMETHING TO SAY?

>> ABOUT BENEFITS, THE SAME THING, THE SAME THING WITH HEALTH INSURANCE. I DON'T MIND IF WE ARE OFFERED INSURANCE, THE OFFICIAL SHOULD PAY THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THAT HEALTH INSURANCE. BECAUSE IF I DON'T ELECT TO TAKE INSURANCE, YOU DO, ON A BENEFIT BASIS YOU ARE MAKING MORE MONEY, YET WE HAVE THE SAME EXACT JOB.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE PAID EXACTLY THE SAME FOR THE JOB THAT THEY DO. ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, SO I AM OKAY WITH YOU TAKING THE BENEFIT PACKAGE, RETIREMENT IS DIFFERENT. IT IS DIFFERENT REALLY.

BUT LIKE THE INSURANCE PART OF IT, AND OFFERING.

SHOULD WE BE ONLY PAYING A PORTION OF THAT PREMIUM, OR ALL OF THAT PREMIUM. DO NOT WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE IF I TAKE INSURANCE OR YOU DO NOT, FEELS LIKE THEY ARE MAKING LESS MONEY.

IN THEORY THEY ARE. COVERING A PERCENTAGE OF THAT COST. SO YOU KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW.

>> I THINK IT IS A REVIEWABLE ITEM.

>> I AM NOT IN THE PLAN BUT I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE. THROUGH MY SPOUSE.

WE LOOKED AHEAD, MADE PROVISIONS.

SO I'M NOT IN THE RETIREMENT PLAN.

BUT I CAME TO THIS JOB RETIRED ALREADY.

SO ALL KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS. I AGREE WITH YOU IN SPIRIT THAT WHEN YOU SIGN ONTO THIS JOB, YOU NEED TO DO IT, THE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ATTEND ALL THE MEETINGS AND READ YOUR PACKET, PUT IN THE TIME AND DO THE PUBLIC EVENTS ETC. BUT THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT.

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FIRST TERM. >> I WOULD AGREE, STANDARDS I MEAN. NOT MEETING OR HAVEN'T KNOWN YOU WANT TO MEET WITH CONSTITUENTS THAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR ME. YOU SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME OFFICE TIME THAT IS THERE FOR YOU TO TALK TO THE CONSTITUENTS TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS, IT HELPS SHAPE HOW WE LOOK AT GOVERNMENT AND HOW THAT EXPERIENCE IS FOR THEM.

THE THINGS WE DO APPEAR AND PACK THEM IN THE COMMUNITY.

MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND SPEAK AND RESULT FROM THAT. I THINK YOU KNOW THE BENEFIT PART, THE HEALTH PART, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THAT CAN BE WEIGHED, A CONVERSATION. ASPECT OBVIOUS THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, A CHALLENGE WITH THAT.

A BALANCE THERE, PULLED ON BENEFITS AND HEALTH, THE SALARY SHOULD GO OUT. SURPRISED TO LEARN AT HAS BEEN 30 YEARS. I THINK THE ONE THING ABOUT THE ELECTRIC, MORE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT, PEOPLE ARE YOUNGER. SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF COMING TO THIS OPPORTUNITY AT THE LEVELS.

I THINK I HEAR YOU BEING OPEN TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TO REALIZE THAT. HOW DO WE ATTRACT THE YOUNGER PEOPLE INTO OUR GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE I SEE THIS AS GOVERNMENT IS A BUSINESS, THIS IS A BUSINESS.

YOU ARE MAKING BUSINESS DECISIONS HERE.

TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF THE STUFF, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, ENTRY POINTS WILL HELP DICTATE HOW WE GET THOSE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT, A VIABLE OPPORTUNITY. IF I DON'T DO A GOOD JOB IN FOUR YEARS, I WILL NOT BE THERE AFTER THOSE FOUR YEARS BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WILL COME ALONG AND PETITION THE PEOPLE TO MAKE A CHANGE.HEN WE SAY TALK ABOUT THIS WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? THAT IS MY QUESTION.

WE ARE OPEN TO THAT. >> BACKGROUND PROVIDED IS SALARIES. DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT BENEFITS. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, IT IS ALL OVER THE MAP. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR FORT PIERCE. I MEET WITH CONSTITUENTS.

GO TO THE COUNCIL, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

>> PLUS THE OTHER THINGS YOU ARE CALLED ON FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND, HAPPY TO DO IT. THAT WAS THE POPULATION.

>> IT IS CONFUSING. >> WE NEED TO DO A REPRINT.

>> IT IS NOT ON THE SAME PAGE. >> OKAY.

LANDSCAPE ON A PIECE OF PAPER. >> WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS WE ARE.

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>> ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. LET'S TACKLE THAT, DOING SOMETHING REAL RATHER THAN SAYING SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. LET'S REALLY TALK ABOUT IT.

SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN START WORKING ON.

>> I AGREE. I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE. THE NUMBERS NOW ARE NOT

CORRECT. >> WE NEED TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE. NOT WHAT IT WAS.

IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. >> MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A PART

TWO: DOES THAT WORK? >> I KNOW MS. COX DOES WANT TO GET REVOLUTION ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.

>> WE CAN GET THIS DONE. >> COVENANT OVER CLERK IS GOING

TO BE WORKING. >> ANYTIME ANYBODY THINKS OF WHAT WE MIGHT NEED, YOU CAN LET THE CLERK KNOW.

>> I HAD A LIST OF THINGS. FIND OUT WHAT TYPE OF SUPPORT EACH COMMISSIONER HAS COME SOME OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN ASSOCIATE OR HAVE THEIR OWN MAYBE IN ST. LUCIE, TWO COMMISSIONERS SHARED ONE SUPPORT STAFF.

BUT INTERESTING TO NOTE TOO, ALL ABOUT TIME MANAGEMENT.

ABLE TO DO WHATEVER WE GOT TO DO.

THAT IS THE WHOLE PACKAGE. RETIREMENT IF AVAILABLE.

>> OKAY. I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO MISS COX. NOW, AS FAST AS I CAN, SWITCH OVER TO MY MEMO. A COUPLE OF POINTS IN IT.

WITH OUR DISTRICTS, THE FACT THE NUMBERS ARE STILL NOT HERE THAT I AM AWARE OF, THAT ARE DUE ANY DAY.

CLEARLY WE HAVE TWO DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW, I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT BOUNDARY LINE BEING MOVED, ALSO REDISTRICTING.

THE FEDERAL LAWSUIT FROM 92 THEN ESTABLISHED THE DISTRICT, FINALLY REALLY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS CONSENSUS ON WHETHER REMOTE MEETINGS. THE FIRST IS TWO ELECTION DISTRICTS. IT IS REQUIRED THAT WE MOVE THAT LINE PURSUANT TO SECTION 58 OF THE CHARTER, EVERY SENSES. SO THE ORDINANCE MOVES THE LINE, RIGHT NOW I'VE ATTACHED THIS BACKUP MATERIAL, THE CURRENT MAP SHOWING WHERE THE DISTRICTS ARE DIVIDED.

AS I SAID IN MY MEMO, ENCOURAGE AS SOON AS THE NUMBERS COME IN, THIS COMMISSION TO START THE PROCESS OF LOOKING HOW DOES THAT LINE MOVE, I HAVE NO DOUBT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE IN SOME WAY. I ENCOURAGE THIS COMMISSION TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT OR EXPERT IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT IS A FAIRLY HIGHLY NUANCED AREA, VERY IMPORTANT.

THE WHOLE BASIS OF THE LAWSUIT. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A CHALLENGE. SO GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAY, I THINK PROACTIVE AND READY TO BRING ON THAT PERSON, THE FUTURE OF THE CITY FOR THE NEXT DECADE.

I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PART

OF IT? >> I DO AGREE WITH THE

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CONSULTANT PART OF IT. >> MISS COX AND I ATTENDED THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES PRESENTATION.

AGAIN, NOT ONLY GOING TO BE AFFECTING FORT PIERCE, WHENEVER THAT NUMBER IS, EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ON SOME LEVEL. SOMEBODY ENGAGE READY TO GO.

OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT PERSON.TART WORKING IN MY OFFICE, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CLERK TO FIND THAT CONSULTANT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> SO I WILL LEAVE THE SOUP MAKING PART UP TO YOU, HAVE PEOPLE IN MIND? I THINK WE DO NEED TO EXPLORE THAT TO GET A FEEL FOR WHO IS OUT THERE, THE SENSE OF THE BUDGETING REQUIRED. THEN FOR US TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE ONE OR TWO THAT MAKE THE SHORTLIST TO MAKE SURE WE VENT ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TO THOSE CONSULTANTS TO DO THIS PROJECT. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

THE CAPACITY OF THAT HAS TO ALSO BE PEOPLE FACING AS WELL.

GOING TO HAVE TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY, BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT, TO DO THAT. WE TAKE THIS TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF FORT PIERCE AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS, BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

>> THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING THINGS A BIT EVEN MORE, LIKE HAVING EVERYBODY ELECTED CITYWIDE.

THERE HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION. SINCE WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM THE COURT, HOW ELECTIONS SHOULD BE HELD, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE. IS THERE A WAY TO FIND OUT FROM THE COURT OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL? IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE SOMETHING, TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

WE NOW HAVE OUR ELECTIONS WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION.

MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TWO DISTRICTS, MAYBE WE WANT FOUR.

A WAY WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE SYSTEM SAY, NO YOU CANNOT DO THAT. BECAUSE OF THE CONSENT.

HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? >> NORMALLY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT, ASKING FOR A RELIEF TYPE CASE AND THIS LAWSUIT THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT, PRETTY CLEAR.

THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT, EVERYBODY WAS ELECTED AT LARGE BEFORE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

ARGUMENT IS. >> BEFORE THE ELECTIONS WERE HERE. I AM NOT SAYING I AM INTERESTED IN THIS, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH ME, SO I FEEL LIKE SINCE WE ARE UNDER A CONSENT, MAY NOT BE A PATH WE

EVEN WANT TO GO DOWN. >> I THINK IT WILL BE DIFFICULT. IT CHANGED THE CHARTER.

NOW OUR CHARTER HAS THE LANGUAGE ESTABLISHED THE TWO DISTRICTS. THE CHARTER CAN BE CHANGED, ASKED TO BE CHANGED IF THERE IS A FEDERAL DECREE, OR A LAW OR SOMETHING THAT SUPERSEDES IT. WHEN YOU READ THE ORDINANCE, THAT EFFEXOR THAT, CHANGING THE CHARTER NORMALLY WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BUT BECAUSE OF THIS SPECIFIC RULE THAT WE HAD TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE TWO PART ANSWER, EVEN IF THERE WERE LEGAL GROUNDS TO MAYBE GET AN IDEA IF WE COULD DO THAT, REVISIT THE JUDGMENT. SEE WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE, THAT IS PART A. THE WILL TO CHANGE THE CHARTER AGREED TO WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, PASSING BOTH OF THOSE TESTS MAY BE

DIFFICULT. >> THAT IS WHY I AM BRINGING IT OUT. WE NEED TO KNOW THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING SHOULD BE. SO.

[03:45:06]

YES, SIR. >> I WILL JOIN IN WITH THAT TOO. IT MAKES SOME SENSE.

BUT TO BE PRECLUDED FROM TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE DISENFRANCHISED ALMOST.

SOMEWHAT DISENFRANCHISED. TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOARD THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW, ONE MILE AND ONE HALF FROM EACH OTHER.

YOU KNOW HOW OFTEN DO WE GET DOWN THERE.

MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT.

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>> . >> MY GUESS IS IF WE DIDN'T

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SHOULD BE QUESTIONED AND PROBABLY WILL BE QUESTIONED.

YOU HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES AND REGULATIONS WE ALL FOLLOW.

WHEN YOU SEE YOUR GOVERNMENT LEADER GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS DISCUSSING ISSUES AND MAKING DECISIONS, YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO KNOW THAT WAS DONE IN A VERY APPROPRIATE WAY. TRANSPARENCY IS THERE AND EMPG -- AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT MAKES IT UNCOMFORTABLE IF I CAN'T SEE SOMEBODY. UNLESS THERE IS AN ORDER OUT THERE, AN EXECUTIVE ORDER OUT THERE.

IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY, FASHION OR FORM.

IF YOU WANT TO BECOME PART OF THE MEETING, YOU MERELY ARE A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE AND YOU CAN'T VOTE AND YOU CAN'T CHIME IN AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

YOU'RE NOT HERE. YOU CAN'T BE CHALLENGED.

BODY LANGUAGE A LOT OF TIMES IS A VERY STRONG FORM OF COMMUNICATION. YOU DON'T GET THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS MISSING IN THAT.

WE MADE SOME DECISIONS. THIS BOARD HAS MADE SOME DECISIONS. IF WE SET THAT FORWARD -- SET THIS FORWARD EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NOT ALLOWED.

>> I THINK THAT IS THE MOST DEFENSIBLE POSITION TO TAKE.

I THINK EVEN IN EXECUTIVE ORDER, HOW DID THE GOVERNOR

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>> VIRTUAL. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT TO

THE DETAIL -- >> LIKE THAT IF WE HAVE TO.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT TO THAT.

IF I CAN SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN. YRNG IT -- I THINK IT WAS A

PHONE. >> IT DIDN'T.

>> IN THE SPIRIT OF THE STATUTE OUT AND THE SUNSHINE LAW, ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S DECREE STATES IS WE ARE TRYING TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND WE WON'T GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR TRYING TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT. SHAME ON YOU.

YOU DIDN'T LET PHONE CALLS COME IN.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF SEEING SOMEONE ON THE SCREEN.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING TO.

AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE EMERGENCIES.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOW, RIGHT? WERE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO PREPARE FOR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE? SOMETHING IN AN ORDINANCE?

>> I THINK TO COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON'S POINT IT WOULD BE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL LINE IN PART OF OUR ORDINANCE SAYING UNLESS AN EXECUTIVE ISSUE BY THE GOVERNOR IS APPROVED IT WOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED.

SO THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT LATER ON AN UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE A BUILDING DISAPPEARS --

>> IS THAT FOR CITIZENS AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS?

>> WELL, I THINK I WAS LOOKING AT IT ASY -- AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. IT IS CHEAPER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR THE CITY TO NOT HAVE SOMEBODY FLY FROM

TALLAHASSEE OR WHEREVER. >> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE

VOTING. >> IT DOVE TAILS WITH SUNSHINE. IT IS PART AND PARTIAL TO THE SUNSHINE LAW. YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE HERE MEETING IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE TALKING

ABOUT CITY BUSINESS. >> OR VOTING.

>> OR VOTING. >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? >> SECTION 2-48, ABSENCES.

IS THERE ANYTHING TO CLARIFY OR CONCERNED ABOUT?

THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHY.

THE SECTION ABOUT ABSENCES IS PROBABLY REGIONAL CHARTER LANGUAGE OF 1957 AND TALKING ABOUT MISSING FOUR CONSECUTIVE

MEETINGS. >> I WANT TO STOP YOU RIGHT THERE. SO FOUR CONSECUTIVE MEETINS.

IT DOESN'T CLARIFY -- WE HAVE 35 DIFFERENT MEETINGS NOW.

NOT REALLY. >> FERA -- FPRA.

>> IN 1957 WE HAD FOUR CONSECUTIVE --

>> IT SAYS ABSENCE FROM FOUR CONSECUTIVE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE COMMISSION. THAT'S THE KEY TERMINOLOGY.

IN 1957 WE DIDN'T HAVE AN FPRA.

>> IT TOOK FOUR MONTHS TO GET TO THAT.

DOES THAT LANGUAGE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IS MY QUESTION?

>> WELL, PART AND PARCEL TO THAT, YES.

I THINK SO. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO OR NOT. I AM POSING THE QUESTION.

IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SCENARIO 70 YEARS AGO.

>> THAT IS NO LONGER IN THE CHARTER.

THAT IS NOW PART OF THE ORDINANCES.

IT WAS ACTUALLY MOVED OUT OF THE CHARTER INTO THE ORDINANCES BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED A LIMITATION ON POWER. IN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT WHEN WE WROTE THE CODE WE CONSIDERED THAT IT NEEDED TO STAY THERE. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM FOR THIS COMMISSION AS A BODY TO DECIDE ON. I CERTAINLY WASN'T THE GUY GOING TO SAY DON'T PUT IT BACK IN.

MAYBE THAT'S FOR A FUTURE WORKSHOP AS PART OF THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD BE IN A SITUATION WHERE REMOTE PARTICIPATION IS REQUESTED AND THIS COMMISSION IS NOT CLEAR ON WHETHER THAT IS GOING TO MEET THAT STANDARD FOR ABSENCE OR NOT WE WILL FIND OURSELVES IN DEEP COMMISSION.

I HEAR A CLEAR CON CENSUS -- CONSENSUS.

IT IS GENERALLY UNFAVORED ON THE FLOOR OF THE LAW.

GOING FORWARD TO CLARIFY THAT THIS WILL BE ANY TYPE OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY A COMMISSIONER, THAT WOULD BE SIMPLY AN ADDITIONAL STATEMENT TO THAT ORDINANCE.

>> JUST A QUICK LEGAL CLARIFICATION QUESTION.

SO YOUR COMFORT LEVEL WITH THAT AS FAR AS CHALLENGE OF THAT AND THE STATUTE OUT -- STATUTE OR PRECEDENT, ARE YOU

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>> I AM MORE COMFORTABLE PROHIBITING THAT TYPE OF PARTICIPATION. IT IS NOT FAVORED UNDER THE LAW, THE SUNSHINE LAW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAN TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND START TO SAY REMOTE PARTICIPATION IS ALLOWED EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY UNDER AN EXECUTIVE ORDER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> RIGHT. >> I FEEL THAT IS A SAFER POSITION. THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE FROM SOMEBODY SAYING YES. I CAN'T PARTICIPATE REMOTELY AND THEREFORE -- I MEAN THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BURDEN ON THAT

PERSON. >> I UNDERSTAND.

SO TO COMMISSIONER YAWN -- COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S QUESTION AND HIS POINT OF CLARITY, IF WE WERE TO CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE ACTUAL MEETING AND DEFINING WHAT THAT MEANS, I MEAN WE HAVE CONFERENCE AGENDA AND REGULAR MEETINGS AND FPRA.

YOU KNOW, THIS CHARTER WAS WRITTEN SOME TIME AGO, RIGHT? WE'VE PROBABLY EXPANDED THAT. IT IS WORTH OUR DISCUSSION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT THAT IS.

MAYBE NOT TODAY EXACTLY, BUT IS IT FOR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS? IS IT CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS ? IS IT FOR, YOU KNOW, IN LINE WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A CONFERENCE MEETING? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT I NEED --

>> WE DO HAVE SOME DEFINITION.

THE IMMEDIATE SECTION WHERE IT SAYS COMMISSIONERS SHALL MEET REGULARLY, NOT LESS THAN TWICE A MONTH, REGULAR MEETINGS AND SPECIAL. IT DOES DEFINE IF THERE IS A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT WHERE DOES -- WHERE DOES IT FIT IN?

>> WE DID ADD THE POSSIBILITY OF AN EXTRA COMMISSION MEETING WHEN WE HAD ALL OF THIS WORK IN FRONT OF US.

YOU CAN IMAGINE SAY THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH WAS THE FIFTH YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS IN

30 DAYS. >> I AM COMFORTABLE WITH REGULAR MEETINGS. THEY ARE IN THE CHARTER.

THERE ARE TWO A MONTH WE HAVE TO HAVE, REQUIRED TO HAVE.

AND THE OTHER ONES ARE SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE -- IF IT WAS FOUR CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS THAT WOULD BE TWO MONTHS, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S FAIR. >> AND I THINK IT IS FURTHER CLARIFIED, MADAM MAYOR. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A REGULAR ORDINANCE FOR A REGULAR MEETING, WE CAN'T TAKE VOTES HERE. WE KNOW THAT.

AT A REGULAR MEETING YOU HAVE THE QUASI JUDICIALS AND THE CONSENT AGENDA AND YOU VOTE. THE DELINEATION IS GOOD THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

MAYBE FOUR IS NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER.

I DON'T KNOW. >> YEAH.

THAT'S THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP.

IT IS JUST TO CONFIRM OR CLARIFY FOR DISCUSSION.

>> AND WERE YOU THINKING MORE OR LESS?

HAD YOU THOUGHT THAT FAR? >> ALL I KNOW IS 1957 IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN TODAY. WE ARE DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER RIGHT NOW.

IT IS A REAL-WORLD FACTOR YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT AND PLAN FOR. WE ARE SITTING UP HERE AS FOUR AND NOT FIVE OF US. THAT MAKES IT TOUGHER TO DO

BUSINESS. >> FOR ME THE CLARIFICATION IS WHAT IS A REGULAR MEETING? I THINK THAT HELPED ME.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH FOUR AND I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARTICIPATION. I NEEDED TO HEAR THAT.

I WAS THINKING ALL THE OTHER THINGS IN BETWEEN.

IT IS NOT REALLY FOR US. IT IS GN -- IT IS THE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AND THE INTERPRETATION FROM THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR WITH THAT. RUMORS AND INNUENDOS TRAVELS FASTER THAN FACTS THESE DAYS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEARLY STATED THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REGULAR MEETINGS OR THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAYS AND FOUR CONSECUTIVE ONES

WOULD GIVE US TWO MEETINGS. >> AND WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT MATE BE SITTING UP HERE, ANY OF US, AND FAIR TO OUR CITIZENS. YOU STRIKE A BALANCE.

I NOW HAVE A GOOD CONSENSUS. I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO WORK

THROUGH. >> THANK YOU.

ARE WE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC? ARE WE TO THE NEXT?

>> YES, THE NEXT IS -- UNLESS LUNCH IS READY.

>> THE STAFF IS GETTING WEARY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A BREAK.

THEY ARE SITTING HERE WATCHING US TALK.

>> YEAH. >> I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

YOU CAN PUSH THROUGH IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME FORM OF SUS -- SUCCESS STAW -- SUSTINANCE OR LUNCH

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IT IS COMPLETELY UP TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES. IT IS COMPLETELY UP TO ME.

IS IT 1:30? >> IT IS 1:20.

>> SO, GENTLEMEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK AND BE BACK HERE IN 20 MINUTES? A QUARTER OF 2?

>> NO LONGER THAN 20. >> NO LONGER THAN 20.

>> 15, 20 MINUTES AND I'M GOOD.

>> ALL RIGHT. BE BACK HERE AT 1:35?

IS THAT GOOD? >> YEAH.

WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:35. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

>> PEGGY AND PAUL TO COME UP FRONT.

THEY WILL TAG TEAM WITH ME ON THIS PRESENTATION.

>> OH GOOD. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIT DOWN? WOULD YOU RATHER SIT DOWN?

>> EITHER WAY IS GOOD FOR ME. >> AS LONG AS I DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH THE COMPUTER. TECH TENDS TO DISAGREE WITH ME. IT NEVER WORKS.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE PEGGY IS , BUT WE ARE GONNA GET

STARTED. >> OH, OKAY.

[e. Impact of New State Laws on Municipal Operation]

>> AT OUR JUNE CONFERENCE AGENDA, MAYORS -- MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY CONFERENCE, NICOLE FOGGERTY GAVE US AN OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THE STATE LAWS THAT CHANGED WITH THE RECENT SESSION. AND OF THOSE, SOME HAVE SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS ON WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO.

I BELIEVE YOU ALL ASKED AS TO HOW WILL THIS AFFECT OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATION. WE WANTED TO COMPILE THE CHANGES AND WHAT EFFECT ITSELF HAS UPON US.

WE WILL GET STARTED HERE. LIT -- OLD ON.

LET ME TURN THIS ON. >> PEGGY, HE WANTED YOU TO JOIN HIM UP THERE. HE DIDN'T SAY SO, BUT HE DID.

>> I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE QUH YOU ARE -- WHEN YOU ARE UP

HERE. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL SENATE BILLS AND HOUSE BILLS AND OUR BUILDING DIRECTOR HAS IDENTIFIED THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE THAT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO REVIEW TODAY. THE FIRST ONE, PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS IS HB53. THIS IS ALL THE -- THIS IS ALL ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE LOCAL PREFERENCE.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS IN A NUTSHELL.

IT IS UTILIZING THE ACTUAL LOCAL OR LOCATION OF A PARTICIPATING OR PERSPECTIVE BUSINESS TO DETERMINE THEIR ELIGIBILITY OR THEIR VALIDITY TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE MUNICIPALITY. BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING HERE AND BASED ON HB53, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ENVOKE THE LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE LOCALLY ANY FURTHER. NOW WE HAVE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BASICALLY COMPETITIVLY BID OUR PROJECTS, AND THEY WILL BE AWARDED BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE OF THAT BID.

THAT IS THE BASIC OUTCOME OF THIS HOUSE BILL.

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. >> YES, SIR.

>> DOES THAT HB53 TALK ABOUT THE LOWEST PRICE, EVEN THOUGH IT COULD BE MORE OF A LEGAL ASPECT?

DOES IT TALK ABOUT THAT? >> LOWEST PRICE? NO, SIR. THIS ONLY SPEAKS TO THE LOCALITY OF THE SPUR -- PERSPECTIVE BUSINESS VYING FOR

COMPETITIVE WORK. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> TO MY QUICK QUESTION, SO RYE -- SO I READ BULLET POINT 2 THERE AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE TRY TO STRESS AND SUGGEST AND EVEN MAKE AN INFERENCE TO THAT SUGGESTION THAT WE LOOK AT OUR LOCAL BASE FOR EMPLOYEES AND THAT IS NOW LEGAL.

>> YES. A LOCAL ORDINANCE --

>> NOT EVEN AN ORDINANCE, BUT WE SUGGESTED OR EVEN CONFERRED OR TRIED TO HINT OR SUGGEST THEY HIRE LOCAL, RIGHT?

WE WANT OUR PEOPLE WORKING. >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING ILLEGAL WITH COMMUNICATING WITH A SPUR TECH TIFF -- PERSPECTIVE CONTRACTOR THAT WILL WORK WITH THE CITY OF FORT PEACE -- FOIRT PIERCE -- FORT PIERCE AND SAY WE WANT TO YOU HIRE THE LOCAL WORKFORCE.

THIS IS ABOUT IDENTIFYING A BUSINESS THAT IS GOING TO BID

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IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SWEENEY? >> THERE IS THE REALITY TOO.

IF YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND PARTICULARLY IF YOU MAKE THOSE STATEMENTS WHILE TELL -- WHILE TELEVISED AND THEY DON'T GET T THEY WILL COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN AND YOU TOLD US YOU BETTER HIRE A BUNCH OF LOCALS. BY THE WAY, THE GUY YOU HIRED THAT'S LOCAL, YOU WILL BE PUTTING YOURSELF IN A DIFFICULT PREDICAMENT. I'VE SEEN AND HEARD IT DONE BEFORE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE OR PUT A LIABILITY THERE.

>> YOU CAN DO IT, BUT -- >> YOU CAN PUT A

CLARIFICATION. >> YES, SIR.

>> HOW THIS REALLY AFFECTS US IS WE CAN'T HAVE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS IN ANYTHING THAT WE BID OUT.

>> CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE A LOCAL PREFERENCE ON OUR BID DOCS. AND THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS ARE ALLOCATED AS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ON FORT PIERCE OR WITHIN THE FORT PIERCE AREA.

>> IF ANYONE IS OUT THERE LISTENING, WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE WHO SAY WHY DIDN'T YOU HIRE A LOCAL COMPANY TO DO, X. IT WAS STATE LEGISLATURE.

IT ISN'T US THAT IS OPTING OUT OF THIS.

THIS IS THE STATE LAW. >> CORRECT.

YES, MA'AM. >> MOVING ON, IMPACT FEES WILL BE OUR NEXT -- WAKE UP. THERE WE GO.

IMPACT FEES WILL BE THE NEXT. IMPACT FEES IS ABOUT THE INCREASE. AN INCREASE OF NOT MORE THAN 25% THE CURRENT RATE MUST BE IMPLEMENTED TO ANNUAL INCREMENTS. SINCE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED OUR I'M PABLGHT -- OUR IMPACT FEES IN 2077 OR 2 -- 2007 OR 2011, I DON'T THINK WE RAISED OUR IMPACT FEES.

OUR COUNTY COLLEAGUES HAVE RAISED THEM A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND WHAT THEY DEEM TO BE ACCURATE AT THE TIME. WE HAVE NOT COME ACROSS THIS SCENARIO AND WE HAVE NOT INCREASED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK WE INCREASED 10% SINCE THE INITIATIVE BEGAN. ALE -- ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT A CEILING FOR US, IT HAS NEVER HAD AN EFFECT ON US BASED ON

THE PREVIOUS PERFORMANCE. >> IT SAYS YOU CAN EXCEED IT

THOUGH IF YOU MEET CERTAIN -- >> CORRECT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SPECIFIC NEEDS ANALYSIS.

>> IT SAYS TWO WORKSHPS AND A TWO-THIRDS VOTE.

>> CORRECT. >> WE COULD DO T -- DO IT, BUT WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO DO IT.

>> AND THEN WE GET INTO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THIS IS WHERE PEGGY WILL TAKE OVER THIS PART OF THE PRESENTATION SM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. HOUSE BILL 60 HAS PROHIBITED CODE ENFORCEMENT FROM RESPONDING TO ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS. IT DOES REQUIRE THAT THEY -- WHOEVER THE COMPLAINANT IS PROVIDE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE AN OFFICER CAN GO OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION.

IT DOES IMPACT HOW WE DO BUSINESS.

WE HAVE RELIED ON THE COMMUNITY AS OUR EXTRA SET OF EYES TO HELP US IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS MORE OF OUR ATTENTION. IT IS GOING TO IMPACT HOW WE DO BUSINESS. IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE WHO WORKS UNDER CHAPTER 62. THAT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PARK ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL AND EVERYONE WHO WORKS UNDER 162. BUILDING INSPECTORS IS A QUESTION FOR ME. AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY WORK UNDER 162 SO BUILDING INSPECTORS AS WELL, IT IMPACTS. DID DOES HAVE AN EXEMPTION FOR IMMINENT THREAT, HEALTH HEALTH AND SAFETY WELFARE.

IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WE CAN RESPOND.

FOR DESTRUCTION OF HABITAT OR SENSITIVE RESOURCES.

TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE HERE, DOWNTOWN WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE DRAINS THAT SAY DRAINS TO RIVER, SO IF SOMEONE WAS TO DUMP THERE ILLEGALLY WE COULD TAKE IT BECAUSE IT IMPACTS HABITAT OR RESOURCES. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH SHAY AND THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

WE WERE WORKING THE LAST COUPLE DAYS AND FOUND WE MISSED THIS, BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WHEN YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT IT WILL ASK FOR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT. IT IS NOT PUBLISHED.

IT IS RETAINED IN OUR RECORDS, BUT NOT PRABBLE -- NOT

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RECORDS. >> BUT AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC

RECORDS REQUEST? >> CORRECT.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. AS I SAID, THE CHANGES WERE MADE AND WE FOUND A COUPLE OF ISSUES WE FORGOT TO ADD THOSE TWO QUESTIONS. SHAY IS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. WE WILL HAVE AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE WHERE IF YOU TRY TO DO IT ANONYMOUSLY, IT WILL SAY WE CANNOT ADDRESS THIS COMPLAINT.

>> YOU ARE GOING TO SAY IT IS BECAUSE OF STATE LAW?

>> IT IS BECAUSE OF STATE LAW.

>> AND HOW MANY ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS NOW DO YOU GET

COMPARED TO COMPLAINTS TOTAL? >> THIS HAS ONLY BEEN IN PLACE

A SHORT TIME. >> I AM TALKING ABOUT BEFORE.

>> MOST COMPLAINTS WERE ANONYMOUS.

WHEN I WAS ASKED ABOUT MY OPINION ON THIS MANY MONTHS AGO, I SAID I WAS NOT FOR IT. WE DID RELY ON THE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS. MY GIRLS THAT ANSWER THE PHONE, THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD AT ADVISING PEOPLE AND A COUPLE PEOPLE WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT AND GIVE US THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS. OTHER PEOPLE GIVE US THEIR

OPINION OF THE RULE. >> SO IF WE GET A COMPLAINT FROM SOMEBODY DO WE HAVE TO TURN THAT NAME OVER TO YOU IF

IT IS IN CODE COMPLIANCE? >> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR

PETE. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT TOO. IT DEPENDS ON WHO IS MAKING THE COMPLAINT. IF IT IS MAYOR LINDA HUDSON

MAKING THE COMPLAINT -- >> I WENT BY AND SAW IT AFTER

I WAS TOLD. >> PROBABLY HAPPENS A LOT I'M

SURE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> SO IN THAT SENSE IF YOU ARE THE PERSON, BUT IF YOU GET A TEXT MESSAGE OR EMAIL, AT THAT POINT IT MAY BE BETTER TO SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE ALL PASSED ALONG TO CODE.

THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES BY SENDING AN EMAIL

ANYWAY. >> WHAT STOPS SOMEBODY FROM GIVING A FAKE NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> NOTHING. >> NOTHING, BUT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE ADD MINUTE STAFF AND THEY -- WITH THE ADMIN STAFF AND THEY WILL DO THE BEST THEY CAN TO ENFORCE THAT. IF THEY ARE GIVEN THE NAME DONALD DUCK THEY WILL SAY, I'M SORRY, I NEED A LEGITIMATE NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU CAN'T SAY 123USA AVENUE.

WE KNOW THAT IS NOT A LEGITIMATE ADDRESS.

WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN. >> I AM SITTING HERE THINKING

THE SAME THING. >> 100 NORTH U.S. 1.

>> WHAT WOULD STOP PEOPLE FROM DOING THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE FULL INTENT OF WHY THEY ARE DOING IT, BUT THAT IS A CONCERN. AND I HAVE ONE OTHER

QUESTION. >> TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, THERE IS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR VERIFICATION, RIGHT?

>> NONE I'M AWARE OF. I READ THE STATUTE CLOSELY.

MY STAFF IS GOING TO TRY THEIR BEST TO CONFIRM THAT IT IS A LEGITIMATE NAME AND ADDRESS, BUT --

>> OKAY. >> THERE IS A LIMB -- LIMIT TO

WHAT WE CAN DO. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> A QUICK NOTE. THIS IS CODE ENFORCEMENT UNDER THE OFFICE OF 162. IF A PERSON STILL WANTED TO REPORT A POTHOLE ANONYMOUSLY IN THE MIDDLE OF WHATEVER, CAN

THEY DO THAT SPH. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I GUESS DEBRIS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT'S ANONYMOUS. IT IS JUST THE OFFICERS UNDER THE 162 CODE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY RATIONAL AND WHY WE ARE DOING IT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO A JOB TO MAKE SURE IT IS COMMUNICATED AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE WANT TO ENSURE CITIZENS IF THEY ARE DRIVING AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT THEIR NAME ON A POTHOLE OR JUST TRASH THROWN SOMEWHERE OR MISSING STOP SIGNS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT.

>> ONLY CODE ENFORCEMENT REQUIREMENTS.

THEY DO NOT SHOW UP. IT IS ONLY FOR ABANDONED VEHICLES AND THE TALL GRASS AND THOSE ITEM THAT'S ARE PRE IDENTIFIED AS CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES ARE THOSE TWO QUESTIONS

BROUGHT UP. >> AND MADAM MAYOR, I THINK TO CLARIFY PART OF THE DONALD DUCK CONVERSATION THIS WAS NOT -- THIS WAS PUSH THROUGH THE LEVEL ONE SIDEDLY, BUT IF SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT AND THE COME -- THE COMPLAINANT IS NOT TRUTHFUL AND IT IS INVESTIGATED AND THEN IT COMES BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, A SOPHISTICATED PERSON THAT IS CITED THE FINE MIGHT SAY, WELL, THE NAME ON THE COMPLAINT WAS JOE JOHN SMITH OF 123 I ASK YOU THROW THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT OUT.

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>> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD?

>> JUST ON THE BUILDING SIDE. MOST OF OUR COMPLAINTS AND THE WAY WE RESPOND, OUR COMPLAINTS ARE USUALLY ANONYMOUS, BUT USUALLY THEY COME AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHERE YOU HAVE A LANDLORD-TENANT DISPUTE. AND THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE LANDLORD TO FIX SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST. SO THIS -- FOR US THIS IS A GAME CHANGER. BECAUSE I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IT IS GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT PER SAY FROM THE BUILDING SIDE THAT WE DO.

VERY FEW PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO PUT THEMSELVES OUT.

OR THEY DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN THAT THEY ARE THE ONE THAT'S CALL THEIR NEIGHBOR IN. UNFORTUNATELY FOR US THE MAJORITY OF THE STOP WORK ORDER WE RESPOND TO, 90%, COME

FROM ANONYMOUS CALLS. >> SO I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THIS LEGISLATION CAME FROM.

IT IS THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY THAT DON'T LIKE TO REPORT ON OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY. SO YOU CAN CURTAIL IT IF YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF IF IT HAS TO BE ANONYMOUS THAT WAS THE SCUTTLEBUTT I HEARD OUT OF TALLAHASSEE, THASES -- THAT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM.

IN A WAY WE WILL REDUCE -- WE ARE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT KEEPING OUR CITY CLEAN AND A LOT OF THINGS ADDRESSED AND THIS IS GOING TO -- THIS IS GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER FOR

THAT TOO. >> MAYOR, CAN I ASK A

QUESTION? >> YES.

>> I SEE HERE PEGGY HAS PLACED THE HIDE YOUR IDENTITY AND IT WILL BE REMOVED. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY IT CAN REMAIN, AND WE AS A MUNICIPALITY MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF WE WILL RESPOND BASED ON THE SEVERITY

OF THE CLAIM? >> I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE THE EX -- THE EXEMPTION FOR THE TWO ITEMS. I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE AN OPTION. I CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH SHAY.

HE IS PROBABLY LISTENING. WE WILL HAVE THAT RESPONSE THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS IT DUE TO THAT.

YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF PROVIDING YOUR INFORMATION.

>> YEAH. >> THAT MIGHT HELP.

>> JUST LIKE MR. THOMAS STATED, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUE THAT'S ARISE WITH TENANTS AND LANDLORDS THAT ARE SOMETIES LIFE-THREATENING. IF THEY ARE SCARED TO EVEN MAKE THAT CALL OR EVEN SUBMIT THAT TICKETS -- TICKET, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO REACT

AND GET RESOLUTION. >> FOR SURE WE NEED TO MONITOR AND KNOW -- WE NEED TO MEASURE HOW THIS AFFECTS THE CITIES.

I THINK AT SOME POINT WE MAY WANT TO -- THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MAY TRY TO UNDO THIS LESIONS. -- LEGISLATION AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO BUILD OUR CASE SSMENTS.

>> A QUICK QUESTION. MR. SWEENEY, THEY HAVE PASSED THIS HOUSE BILL. WHAT IS THE OTHER SIDE -- WHAT IS THE PUNITIVE PART OF THIS IF WE DON'T COMPLY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.

WE CAN GATHER THE DATA. SOME STUFF WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. WE ARE NOT GONNA GET OURSELVES

IN TROUBLE HERE, ARE WE? >> I DON'T RECALL SEEING

ANYTHING THAT -- >> I'M JUST, YOU KNOW --

>> I THINK THERE ARE TWO PARTS.

THE FIRST IS IF YOU CONTINUE TO PRACTICE AND IF THE STATE HAS SAID KIND OF DON'T DO IT THIS WAY AS YOUR STANDARD PRACTICE, ONE, YOU ARE GONNA SEE CODE -- A LOT MORE OF THE CODE CASES GET CHALLENGED AND POTENTIALLY LOSE.

THE SECOND ONE IS THERE IS OTHER LEGISLATION THAT SAYS IF THERE IS A DIRECTLY CONTRARY STATE STATUTE TO AN ORDINANCE YOU HAVE ON YOUR BOOKS, YOU CAN'T BE SUED IF -- YOU CAN BE SUED IF SOMEBODY CHALLENGES THAT AND HAVE TO PAY ATTORNEYS FEES. WHAT COULD HAPPEN -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT FALLS IN THAT CATEGORY, BUT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE IT AS AN OPTION AND SOME ENTERPRISING PERSON SAYS THIS IS DIRECTLY CONTRARY TO HB60, YOUR CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I AM SUING YOU FOR HAVING IT ON THE BOOKS.

IF THEY WIN, THEY GET ATTORNEYS FEES.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LIKELY THAT IS TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF INTERESTING LAWSUITS OVER THE LAST DECADE. THEY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS DRIVEN BY SOMETHING LIKE THIS. BAD LEGISLATION PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL WITHOUT A LOT OF BACK UP.

AND THEN IT IS A FREE FOR ALL.

>> YES, SIR. >> I THINK THE OTHER SIDE THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE GOODWILL PERSPECTIVE OF THIS.

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SETTING UP ILL WILL TOWARD -- >> A NEIGHBOR.

>> SETTING UP A NEIGHBOR OR SETTING UP A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR BUILDING INSPECTOR.

>> THAT IS TRUE. >> AND HAVING THEM SHOW UP AT A SITE AND THEN DOING SOMETHING BAD.

>> I GET THAT. >> THERE IS ANOTHER PART OF THIS THAT -- EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH IT FULLY, ACTUALLY I THINK IT IS OVERLEGISLATION, BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. I THINK THERE IS A GOODWILL

PART OF IT TOO. >> TO MR. M -- MR. MIMS POINT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CODE ENFORCERS ARE PROTECTED IN THE BUILDING. I AGREE WITH THAT.

IF WE LOOK AT THE DATA AND FIND A WAY TO CAPTURE THAT, WE MAY FIND SOME THINGS IN THERE WE MAY NEED TO TAKE A GLANCE AT. THERE MAY BE SOMEONE TRYING TO HELP US IN A SITUATION, PARTICULARLY ON LEGAL BUILDS AND THINGS GOING ON, AND THEY REALLY WANT US TO BE AWARE OF IT. A NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK THAT HAS HELPED PEOPLE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY STAN POINTS.

I -- PUBLIC SAFETY STAN -- STANDPOINTS.

PEOPLE CAN REACH OUT TO THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND THEN IT IS JUST COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND I

WILL BE OKAY WITH THAT TOO. >> WE GET MESSAGES FROM

MR. MIMES TO RESEARCH. >> WONDER WHERE HE GETS THAT

FROM? >> PRETTY ROUTINE.

NEXT BAD NEWS? >> THIS IS THE HB403 HOME BUSINESSES AND MS. PEGGY WILL SPEAK TO THIS ONE.

>> THIS IS A NEW RULE THAT LIMITS OUR REGULATIONS OF HOME-BASED BUSINESSES. WE USED TO HAVE A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL LIST OF REGULATIONS FOR HOME-BASED BUSINESSES. THEY CAN NO LONGER BE PROHIBITED, RESTRICTED, LICENSED IN A MANNER DIFFERENT FROM OTHER BUSINESSES. IT HAS TO BE SECONDARY TO THE PROPERTY'S USE AND THE OWNER HAS TO RESIDE IN THE RESIDENCE. THE VIEW OF YOUR PROPERTY HAS TO REMAIN THE SAME AS IT WAS. YOU CAN'T BE PUTTING OUT ALL KINDS OF OUTSIDE DISPLAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE NOISE SIGNAGE AND NOISE VIBRATION ORDINANCES. YOU CAN'T MAKE RULES STRICTER THAN WHAT WHAT YOUR NEIGHBOR CAN HAVE.

IF YOUR NEIGHBOR CAN HAVE A SIGN IN THEIR YARD, YOU CAN HAVE A SIGN IN YOUR YARD. IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT'S GO ALONG WITH THIS TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS NOW. WE DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF COMPLAINTS CURRENTLY FOR HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.

THEY COME IN, BUT THEY ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

I DON'T SEE THIS HAVING A MAJOR IMPACT ON US, BUT IT

WILL HAVE AN IMPACT OVERALL. >> HOW WILL IT AFFECT -- I MEAN, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT WILL AFFECT US.

>> I BELIEVE YOU WILL SEE MORE HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.

AND I BELIEVE THAT GOES WITH COVID.

EVERYBODY IS TRANSITIONING. >> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WORKING FROM HOME AND HAVING A HOME-BASED BUSINESS.

>> I SEE MORE OF THIS HAPPENING.

PART OF THIS RULE I BELIEVE YOU CAN HAVE EMPLOYEES COME TO YOUR HOUSE NOW. THAT'S NEW.

I THINK YOU ARE ALLOWED TWO EMPLOYEES AT YOUR HOUSE THAT DON'T LIVE THERE. THAT'S A NEW RULE AND COULD HAVE A NEW IMPACT ON US AS WELL.

WHERE WE HAVEN'T GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOME-BASED BUSINESSES BEFORE, WE MAY GET A SLIGHT INCREASE BECAUSE NOW THERE ARE LESS REGULATIONS TO THE CITY AND MORE TO THE BUSINESS OWNER. I AM NOT SEEING A HUGE IMPACT TO THE CITY. IT MAY BE A MINOR ONE.

MORE PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME AND SMALL BUSINESSES MAY WANT TO KEEP THAT AS A BASE OF OPERATION NOW.

>> COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON. >> THROWING YOU A CURVE BALL OR THROWING YOU FOR A LOOP, I SHOULD SAY.

DO THEY DEFINE A HOME-BASED BUSINESS? IS IT DEFINED SPECIFICALLY? MAYBE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND VACATION RENTALS NEED TO BE CLASSIFIED AS HOME-BASED

BUSINESSES SO THE -- >> THERE IS AN EXEMPTION.

THERE IS A SPECIFIC EXEMPTION FOR THAT.

THAT ONE I KNOW. >> I WAS THINKING AHEAD.

>> GOOD ATTEMPT. >> TAKE TWO.

>> DARN IT. >> THAT WAS A JOKE, BY THE

WAY. >> LET'S MOVE ON.

>> THE REMAINDER OF THE CHANGES IN THE STATE LAW AS IT

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>> SO HOUSE BILL -- I'M SORRY 735 IS A PRE EM -- PRE-EMPTION OF LOCAL LICENSES. IN ESSENCE -- THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE TO USE THE COMPUTER.

>> ME AND TECH, HERE YOU GO. SO THE ESSENCE OF THIS LEGISLATION IS BASICALLY TO MAKE -- TO ELIMINATE LOCAL LICENSING. YOU MAY HAVE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, FOR INSTANCE FOR PAINTING OR TILE.

BUT THOSE ARE NOT STATE LICENSED.

THERE ARE STATE CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS AND LOCAL CONTRACTORS. BASICALLY THIS LEGISLATION IS SAYING THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE LOCAL LICENSING THAT DOESN'T MIRROR THE STATE LICENSING.

THIS CREATES QUITE A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

I I WILL READ YOU SOME OF THE CAT -- CATEGORIES THAT WILL BE ELIMINATED OR SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED.

IT INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO PAINTING, FLOORING, CABINET TREE, INTERIOR REMODELING WHICH IN A BUILDING, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE A CONTRACTOR TO DO INTERIOR REMODELING.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. NOBODY DOES.

DRIVEWAYS OR TENNIS COURT INSTALLATIONS, HANDYMAN SERVICES, DECORATIVE STONE, TILE, MARBLE, GRANITE OR TERRAZO OR HERE IS A BIG ONE, PLASTERING STUCCO AND CAULKING AND CANVASSING AND ORNAMENTAL. YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO PAINT OR PUT IN GRANITE COUNTER TOPS OR TO DO TILE.

WHO CARES ? IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE GONNA DO AN INTERIOR REMODEL DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS, YOU DO HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT FOR THAT. YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED TO DO THAT. STUCCOING IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE FLORIDA BIDDING -- BUILDING CODE.

THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU MUST PULL A PERMIT.

THIS DEALS WITH THE EXTERIOR ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING.

THERE HAVE BEEN LAWSUITS FOR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE IT FAILED ON LARGE DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE A LOCAL STUCCOING CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE WHO DO WE ISSUE THE PERMIT TO? LIKE MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE ARE SOME ANOMALIES HERE.

HOWEVER, THE GOOD PART IS THIS LEGISLATION -- I WILL READ.

IT LOCAL LICENSING THAT WAS IMPOSED PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST 2021 IS EXEMPTED FROM THIS AND IT SAYS, HOWEVER, ALL LICENSING OF OCCUPATIONS EXPIRES JULY 1ST OF 2023. THEY GAVE US A TWO AND A HALF-YEAR KIND OF A GRACE PERIOD HERE.

THIS AFFECTS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND WE DO THE CONTRACTOR AND THE LICENSING AND THE RENEWALS.

ACCORDING TO THIS EXEMPTION WE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THE CUTOFF DATE. EVERYTHING WILL CONTINUE AS IT IS. THIS MAY NOT BE A GOOD THING FOR STUCCO CONTRACTORS. THIS WILL CREATE A PROBLEM FOR SOME FOLKS AND YOU WILL HEAR IT BECAUSE WE WON'T ISSUE A PERMIT TO A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN LICENSED FOR YEARS BECAUSE THEIR LICENSE CATEGORY HAS BEEN DELETED.

THAT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO EITHER ON THE STATE LEVEL CREATE THAT CATEGORY OR THEY WILL HAVE TO MAYBE TAKE THAT TEST OR GET LICENSED OR COVERAGE OR QUALIFY FOR THE MOST PART IT DOESN'T BOTHER US MUCH.

WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE ARE GREAT DIFFERENCES IN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

I RECENTLY GOT A CALL LAST WEEK, FRIDAY, FROM SAINT LIEU SIS -- SAINT LUCY COUNTY. AND THEY ARE COLLECTING THE DATA FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES YOU KNOW THEY OFFERED CONTRACTOR LICENSING AND THEY SAID THEY WILL DISCONTINUE THAT AND THEY SAID THEY WILL NOT ISSUE NEW LICENSES.

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>> IT CONFLITS WITH THE STATE BUILDING CODE OR SOMETHING

FORT PIERCE HAS IN PLACE? >> SO YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL BE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS HERE.

THAT MEANS SOMEBODY CAN GUT A HOUSE AND REMODEL IT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THIS, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TIME TO WORK IT OUT.

>> YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL.

WITH ALLS AND ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS, WHAT A MESS.

IF L -- IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I WILL MOVE TO THE

NEXT. >> SO THIS IS QUITE INTERESTING. I WILL READ THIS DIRECTLY.

SINGLE OR TWO-FAMILY DRELGS -- DWELLS INTO A RECOVERY RESIDENCE DEFINED IN 397.311 DOES NOT HAVE A CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY AS DEFINED IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE SOLELY DUE TO SUCH CONVERSION. THEY ARE ACTIVELY MANAGED BY A CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCE ADMINISTRATOR.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT IS A RECOVERY OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE RECOVERY CENTER? RECOVERY MEANS A PROCESS OF PERSONAL CHANGE THROUGH WHICH THERE IS ABSTINENCE FROM ALCOHOL AND DRUG USE AND IMPROVE HEALTH, WELLNESS AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

IF THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR A CHANGE OF USE, BUT SIMILAR TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THEY HAVE A NICHE HERE AND THAT IS -- THAT'S VERY NEW, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

>> IT WOULD BE A HOME-BASED BUSINESS.

>> DOES IT DEAL WITH FAIR HOUSING AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER

GUIDELINES? >> SINCE IT IS SAYING SINGLE FAMILY AND TWO-FAMILY, THESE ARE REALLY JUST SINGLE-FAMILY

HOMES AND DUPLEXES. >> IT IS STILL FAIR HOUSING.

I KNOW EVERY TIME WE GET CLOSE TO THIS IT SEEMS LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO WEIGHS IN ON IT AND TAKES AWAY SOME

OF OUR ABILITY. >> I THINK IF YOU ARE IN A LARGER APARTMENT THERE HAS TO BE A NUMBER OF UNITS.

>> THAT IS BUILT UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL CODE.

>> IF IT IS ADDICTION IT -- AND ALCOHOLISM, THOSE ARE DISEASES AND THEN YOU ARE ALSO DEALING WITH AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES. IT CAN GET VERY THORNY.

>> TO BE CLEAR WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW THE OPPORTUNITY HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND SO SOMEONE COULD GET A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND CONVERT IT TO ONE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND THAT IS A RECOVERY RESIDENCY NOW, RIGHT? AND THAT COULD BE -- IT IS NOT MUCH CODING ON THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS SAFETY OR WHATEVER.

WE CAN HAVE THE HOUSES MADE FOR FOUR OR 10 IN THERE.

>> YES. THEY GIVE US ONE PARAGRAPH AND

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THERE IS NO CHANGE OF USE REQUIREMENT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT PARKING SPACES IN OR VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE STATE CODE CUT IT OUT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THEY SAID YOU CAN LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS AND RUN A BUSINESS. IT IS THE EXACT SAME THING.

>> AND WHAT IS ACTIVELY MANAGED BY A CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCE ADMINISTRATOR? IS THAT -- DOES THAT MEAN SOMEBODY HAS TO BE ON SITE?

>> YES. AND, WELL, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THAT PERSON HAS TO BE CERTIFIED AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE FROM THE STATE TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS IN THE HOME OR IN THE RESIDENCE THAT SAYS A RESIDENCE IS A COMMUNITY HOUSING COMPONENT THAT IS A LICENSED DAY AND NIGHT FACILITY -- TREATMENT FACILITY OR OTHER GROUP HOUSING THAT IS AUTHORED OR ADVERTISED IN ANY MEANS INCLUDING ORAL, ELECTRONIC AND PRINTED MEANS BY ANY PERSON OR ENTITY AS A RESIDENCE THAT PROVIDES A PEER SUPPORTED, ALCOHOL FREE AND DRUG FREE LIVING ENVIRONMENT.

>> INTERESTING. >> YEAH.

>> AND THIS IS ALREADY LAW. THIS CAME INTO EFFECT

JULY 1ST. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT A CERTIFIED RECOVERY ADMINISTRATOR IS.

IT IS SOMEBODY THAT GETS -- IT IS SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT RECOVERY AND HOW TO MANAGE I GUESS.

>> I GUESS THAT COVERS IT. >> THIS IS VERY CONCERNING AND TROUBLING. WE HAVE HAD CHALLENGES WITH CERTAIN RESIDENCIES IN OUR COMMUNITY KNOWN AS BOARDING HOUSES. AND IN ESSENCE YOU JUST FLIP AND CHANGE AND CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE AND NOW BACK IN

THE GAME. >> THE ONE GOOD THING IS THAT THIS REFINES THAT THE BAND WIDTH TO JUST A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR A DUPLEX. SO IF YOU HAD LIKE FOR INSTANCE WHEN YOU ARE SAYING THESE --

>> BOARDING HOUSES. >> IF IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND THERE ARE 15 ROOMS AND THIS DOESN'T APPLY.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHOPPED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES INTO BOARDING HOUSES OR ROOMING HOUSES AND THEN IT MAY APPLY. DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WOULD CALL IT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE

CERTIFICATION. >> OKAY.

>> SO THIS ONE IS EASY. THIS IS A NICE ONE.

USE OF DRONES. WE CAN BREATHE A LITTLE BIT.

IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, DRONES CAN BE USED BY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MENTIONED.

IT SAYS HERE THAT THEY MAY BE USED TO ASSESS DAMAGE DUE TO FLOOD, WILDFIRE OR OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS SUGGEST TO A STATE OF EMERGENCY BY A STATE OR CITY BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION. THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE -- THE GATES ARE LOCKED AND WE CAN'T GET ACCESS TO THEM.

THERE WERE THREE FLOODS AND WE HAVE NO RECORD OF BUILDING PERMITS. THIS WAS IN THE COUNTY WHEN IT HAPPENED AD IT WAS DONATED TO US.

THIS ALLOWS US TO USE A DRONE TO HELP US GET WHAT WE NEED AND THIS WILL BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE.

>> DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PROBLEMATIC.

>> YES. NOW THIS ALSO HAS COME INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST. SO THIS IS DEALING WITH BUILDING INSPECTIONS. BASICALLY THE ESSENCE IS THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS TRYING TO EXPEDITE THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF PERMITTING AND ALSO THE COMPLICATIONS AND THE COMPLAINTS THE BUILDERS HAVE ABOUT DEFICIENT BUILDING INSPECTORS. THE LAST POINT IS THAT THE

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FORTUNATELY FOR US THIS HAS BEEN A PRACTICE THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HERE IN FORT PIERCE HAS HAD IN PLACE.

BUT NOW WITH THIS -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IF IT HAPPENS MORE THAN ONCE YOU HAVE LOST ALL OF YOUR REVENUE.

AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE VERY COSTLY AND THE STATE IS DEMONSTRATING THAT THEY ARE NOT --

>> YOU WILL BE CURED OF THAT REAL FAST IF YOU DO THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THE NICE THING IS IT PREVENTS BADGE-HEAVY INSPECTIONS AND BADGE-HEAVY DEPARTMENTS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT SAY DO IT BECAUSE I SAID SO.

IF THERE ISN'T A CODE YOU CAN'T BE CHALLENGED.

IN MY CASE THEY WILL BE DISCIPLINED.

>> THE SECOND ALLOWS FOR VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS FOR THRESHOLD BUILDINGS. WHAT IS A THRESHOLD BUILD

SNG. >> A BUILDING OVER THREE STORIES. YOU HIT HIGHRISE BUILDINGS WHEN YOU HIT A THRESHOLD BUILDING AND THE RULES CHANGE

A LITTLE BIT. >> AFTER THE SURFSIDE COLLAPSE THIS IS PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD THING TO DO.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY.

SO THIS ONE IS -- THIS IS THE BIG ONE.

THIS ONE UNFORTUNATELY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REALLY REVAMP THE WAY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES BUSINESS.

THIS BECOMES EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST OF 2021.

WE HAVE A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THIS POTENTIALLY GOES INTO EFFECT. THIS IS HOUSE BILL 1059 CONSTRUCTION PERMITS. NOW, THEY BREAK THIS DOWN INTO TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS. THIS FIRST SECTION, IF YOU SEE FLORIDA STATUTE 16633 IT GIVES THE DEFINITION THERE AND SPEAKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AND ORDERS.

A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS DIFFERENT FROM A BUILDING PERMIT. THIS IS WHERE THE SEPARATION WAS MADE. A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT BY DEFINITION HERE, AND THIS IS BY FLORIDA STATUTE 16330, 164, PAREN16. IT SAYS INCLUDES ZONING PERMIT, SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, REZONING CERTIFICATION, SPECIAL -- SPECIAL EXCEPTION, VARIANCE OR ANY OTHER OFFICIAL ACTION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAVING THE EFFECTIVE PERMITTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF LAND.

SO EVERY PART OF THE PROCESS EXCEPT FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, A PERSON COMES TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE CLEARINGHOUSE.

THEY SLIDE THE PERMIT ACROSS THE COUNTER AND WE ROUTE IT TO THE PERTINENT DEPARTMENTS. WE DO THE BUILDING REVIEW AND PLANNING AND ZONING GETS IT ANDEN SWRIN NEARING MAY GET IT AND FIRE -- AND ENGINEERING MAY GET IT AND EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT IT AT THE SAME TIME.

EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THE BUILDING REVIEW IS CONSIDERED THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. NOW HERE IS WHAT CHANGES WITH THAT. YOU MAY NOT REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MORE THAN THREE TIMES.

THINGS COULD BE DELAYED OR PUSHED OFF AND PEOPLE WILL BE AFFECTED BY IT. I CAME AND FOUND OUT THIS MUCH INFORMATION. WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THE REST? AND THEN PEOPLE WERE BEING DELAYED. AND SO THEY ARE SAYING YOU GET THREE BITES AT THE APPLE. THE SECOND POINT IS YOUR FIRST SUBMITTAL, IT SAYS IF THE APPLICANT SUBMITS WITHIN 30 DAYS THE CITY MUST REVIEW FOR COMPLETENESS AND RESPOND WITHIN 30 DAYS. YOU GET AN APPLICATION AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO DO YOUR REVIEW IS THERE. YOU GET A MONTH TO DO THAT.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING MISSING YOU GO FOR A SECOND REVIEW.

WHEN YOU DO THE SECOND REVIEW YOU HAVE 10 DAYS IN ORDER TO RESPOND. IF THERE ARE STILL DE -- DEFICIENCIES, YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PERSON. IT SAYS BEFORE A THIRD REQUEST

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AND THEN WHEN THE THIRD SUBMITTAL COMES IT HAS TO BE REJECTED OR APPROVED. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS ALL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, ENGINEERING, ANY DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT.

THEY CALL IT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER OR THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. THE REASON WHY I MAKE THAT DISTINCTION IS, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS. THIS IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE AND THIS IS WHY IT WILL AFFECT THE WAY WE HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE BUSINESS. UP FRONT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND CITIES MUST POST AND UPDATE THE STATUS OF EVERY RECEIVED APPLICATION ON A WEBSITE WHICH WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT CURRENTLY. WE ARE NOT COMPLETELY DEFICIENT. WE HAVE TO PUT A LISTING OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND THE FORMS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

IF YOU LOOKED WHERE IT SAYS A PERMIT -- AT THE BOTTOM, A PERMIT FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE, IT SAYS WE HAVE 30 DAYS -- IT SAYS IT MUST BE ISSUED OR REJECTED WITHIN 30 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER RECEIVING THE PERMIT APPLICATION.

UNLESS THE PERMIT APPLICATION FAILS TO SATISFY THE BUILDING CODE OR CITY'S LAWS AND ORDINANCES.

IF YOU NOTICE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS IF A PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DWELLING IS NOT ISSUED WITHIN 30 DAYS IT MUST BE -- IT MUST REDUCE THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE 10% FOR EACH DAY IT FAILS TO MEET THE DEADLINE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS IN 10 DAYS THE PERMIT IS FREE, AND WE STILL HAVE TO ISSUE IT AND WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE 50 OR SO INSPECTIONS THAT COME FROM IT.

THIS IS WHY THERE HAS TO BE A CHANGE IN HOW WE DO BUSINESS.

NOW A PERSON SLIDES THE PERMIT OVER.

I GAVE IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS A CLEARINGHOUSE.

I CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE. I CAN'T BE ON THE CLOCK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TIME. AND THAT'S WHY HISTORICALLY IT HAS BEEN A GREAT SERVICE THAT WE HAVE HAD THAT WE'RE THE CLEARINGHOUSE. MANY OTHER CITIES YOU GET YOUR APPROVALS BEFORE YOU COME TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

WELL, BY THIS LEGISLATION WE ARE FORCED TO DO THAT.

IF I ONLY HAVE 30 DAYS AND IT TAKES 30 DAYS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PART OR IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE ENGINEERING, I AM ON THE CLOCK FOR ME ALONE.

I HANG BY MYSELF. AND IT WON'T AFFECT ANYONE ELSE'S REVENUE, BUT IT WILL DESTROY MY DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER. THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THERE IS SOMETHING NICE WITH THIS.

WITH THE ADVENT OF THE MUNI SYSTEM YOU CAN SET UP YOUR SYSTEM TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. IF A PERSON WANTED TO COME IN AND HAVE PLANNING AND REVIEW AND ENGINEERING AND IT NEEDED TO GO TO THE UA OR WHATEVER, IT ALLOWS THAT -- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO TAKE IN AND ROUTE.

IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING IT CAN BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS. BUT PER THIS STATUTE IT HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS. THAT PERMIT CAN'T SLIDE ACROSS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. YOU ALL KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT WHENEVER THERE ARE COMPLAINTS A PERSON SAYS I CAN'T GET A PERMIT OUGHT -- OUT OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS REJECTED AND FINAL.

THEY SLID IT ACROSS THE COUNTER AND IT IS OUR PROBLEM AND OUR FAULT. IF THEY GO TO THE STATE AND SAY THAT AND WE RECEIVE IT ACROSS OUR COUNTER, THEN THE DAMAGE HAS COME BACK TO US. THERE ARE OTHER IMPLICATIONS HERE. IT SAYS IF AN APPLICANT SUBMITS REMISSIONS IN 10 DAYS -- YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST REVIEW. YOUR PACKAGE IS COMPLETE AND YOU RESUBMIT YOUR DOCUMENTS. WITHIN 10 DAYS WE HAVE TO REVIEW IT. AND SO IT SAYS IF THE CITY FAILS TO ISSUE OR DENY THE PERMIT WITHINY 10 DAYS OR -- WITHIN 10 DAYS OR 10 BUSINESS DAYS, IT MUST REDUCE THE BUILDING PERMIT FEET -- FEE 20% FOR THE FIRST BUSINESS DAY IT FAILS TO MEET THE DEADLINE.

FOR EACH BUSINESS DAY NOT TO EXCEED FIVE BUSINESS DAYS, THE FEE MUST BE REDUCED AN ADDITIONAL 10%.

THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM. I'M SORRY.

SO IT GETS TIGHTER. THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TIGHTER.

OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WE ARE IN THE GREATEST CONSTRUCTION BOOM EVER.

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WE ARE DOING THAT IN FORT PIERCE.

ALL OF THE HOMES WEST OF TOWN FROM THE TIME THEY DO THEIR UNDERGROUNDS AND THEY PUT THE PADS TOGETHER TO THE CO IT IS USUALLY UNDER 90 DAYS. THIS LEGISLATION IS TO TRY TO ASSURE THAT. THE ONUS OF RESPONSIBILITY IT PUT ON THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THIS BECOMES VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME.

I'M GLAD TO SAY THAT WE ALREADY FOR THE MOST PART ARE COMPLIANT AS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I AM SAD TO SAY WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE CLEARINGHOUSE AND THEY WILL DETERMINE HOW THEY ADDED THIS RESPONSE BUILDING.

>> MR. THOMAS, HOW DO YOU DO THAT THEN? IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR ME YOU ARE GOING TO DECENTRALIZE THE PROCESS. YOU PUT THE ONUS ON EACH DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE TO GET IT TO YOU BEFORE IT COMES TO YOUR DESK AND IT STOPS THE CLOCK FOR YOU? IS THAT THE SOLUTION HERE? IN ADVANCE OF HAVING THE MUNI SYSTEM THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER CITIES WHERE YOU WALK UP TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

YOU SUBMIT TO THEM AND YOU GO TO FIRE.

YOU GO TO THE UA AND THEY STAMP OFF.

IT WAS A GREAT SOURCE TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE ROUTED IT FOR THEM AND THE REVIEW IT DONE CONCURRENTLY.

THE COST -- >> THIS IS GOING TO BE HARDER

ON THE CUSTOMER. >> ONCE AGAIN, MANY OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE HARDER. THEY ARE DESIGNED TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING. BUT I THINK THEY -- THERE ARE

UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. >> THEY THINK THEY ARE OFFERING A BETTER OPPORTUNITY.

>> NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THE ELECTRONIC PLANNING REVIEW SYSTEM WILL SOFTEN THIS BLOW TREMENDOUSLY.

I WILL SEND IT TO PLANNING AND ZONING ONLINE.

THAT WHOLE CONCURRENT THING CAN HAPPEN THE SAME WAY ONCE THAT IS IN PLACE AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE APPROVALS AND YOU SEND IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND WE START OUR TIME -- OUR TIME FRAME. THIS ISN'T THE END OF THE WORLD BUT IT WILL BE CHALLENGING UNTIL WE GET THAT

IN PLACE. >> YOU NEED TO THINK THROUGH THE PROCESSES AND DO IT QUICK.

>> SO FORTUNATELY THAT'S IT. WHAT IS THIS ONE?

>> IT IS MORE LOSS OF MONEY TO YOU.

>> AND THE 10% THEY ARE TAKING MORE MONEY FROM.

THAT'S BASICALLY -- >> THAT WAS THE END OF IT.

>> IT IS A REVAMPING OF THE PROCESS AND IT WILL ALLOW EVERYTHING TO GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM UNTIL IT COMES TO YOU.

IT WILL COME TO YOU LAST AND THEN YOUR TIME WINDOW COLLECT FEES AND THE STATE WILL TELL US HOW TO COLLECT FEES AND IMPLEMENT REFUNDS IF YOU TAKE TOO LONG.

>> I DON'T KNOW. THERE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY CALL THEM THE PLANNING AND ZONING OR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THEY DO PUT YOU DOWN A PATH BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. I LIKE OUR SESSION STEM AND I THINK IT IS AN EFFICIENT SYSTEM, BUT THE STATE HAS OTHER IDEAS AND THOUGHTS. THERE ARE SOME BAD ACTORS IN

THE WORLD. >> THERE MUST BE A REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS. BUT YOU SAY WE ARE PRETTY -- WE CAN BE PRETTY COMPLIANT WITH THIS AND HAVE BEEN.

>> YES. >> AND IT IS SOMETHING THEY ARE WORKING HARD ON AS WE SPEAK.

>> YES. >> THEY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR

QUESTIONS? >> THAT'S IT FOR LICENSES OR

LACK OF LICENSES. >> THE THING ABOUT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE IS THEY HAVE THE DECORATIVE STONE AND THE STONE STARTED FALLING OFF THE BUILDING YEARS AGO.

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MARBLE. >> AND TO THAT ARGUMENT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS ABOUT LICENSING AND EVEN LOCAL LICENSING FOR THINGS THAT DIDN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT LIKE PAINTING, WHAT IF SOMEONE IS ON A LADDER AND FALLS OFF, WHERE IS THE WORKMAN'S COMP? IT IS THE PROPERTY OF THE HOMEOWNER. WHAT IF YOU HAVE A POOL SCREEN COMPANY AND YOU ARE OVER SOMEONE'S POOL AND YOU FALL AND DIE. WHO IS PAYING FOR THAT? IT IS THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE.

THE LICENSING WAS A PROTECTION TO THE PUBLIC.

IT ALLOWED THERE TO BE INSURANCE FOR THAT AND NOW IT IS GONE UNLESS THE STATE DECIDES TO DO IT.

IT IS NOT JUST, HEY, LET'S GET OUT OF THE WAY OF WORK.

THERE IS SAFETY PROTOCOLS THAT WERE TAKEN AWAY IN THE PROCESS. WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN

ANSWERS FOR SURE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS

[f. Impact Fee Report]

IMPACT FEE REPORTS. >> MR. MIMES.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND AFTER PAUL HAS TAKEN US DOWN TO A VERY SAD LEVEL --

>> I'M GLAD HE TOLD ME THE WORLD WASN'T COMING TO AN

END. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE JOHNNA GO OVER OUR IMPACT FEES. IT CAME UP AT A JOINT MEETING AND SAINT LUCY COUNTY MADE SOME ASSERTIONS AS TO HOW OUR FEES WERE CLICKET EASY -- COLLECTED AND HOW THEY ARE DOING AND HOW THEY CAN LOOK AT RECONFIGURING THE COLLECTION AND THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDING ITSELF.

SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS JOHNNA IS LOOKING AT THE HISTORICAL IMPACT FEES AND WHAT WAS COLLECTED AND WHAT WAS SUSPENDED. OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR DID SOME RESEARCH AND FOUND A VERY OLD NUMBER, 2005 IMPACT FEE INTO LOCAL, THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED.

WE CAN'T FIND AN UPDATE, JUST ONE RAG GED DE -- RAGGEDY COPY. THERE COULD BE A NEED FOR RECONSIDERATION AS TO HOW WE WORK TOGETHER.

I WILL LET JOHNNA GO THROUGH THE HIS -- HISTORICAL IMPACT

FEES. >> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE TASKED WITH FINANCE OTHER THAN WE

COLLECT THEM. >> JUST HAVE MISSED THE MEETING. THE STAFF HAS PROVIDED A LIST OF WHAT IMPACT FEES WERE TAKEN UP FROM 2017 UP TO NOW AND THE PROJECTS THAT WERE -- WE EXPENDED FUNDS FOR IN THOSE YEARS. YOU CAN SEE FISCAL YEAR 2017 AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT WE COLLECTED WAS 607,000.

UP AT 607,000 THE CITY KEPT 322,000 OF THAT AND DISTRIBUTED IT TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY AND SCHOOL BOARD AND FIRE DISTRICT THE AMOUNTS SHOWN.

AND THE PROJECT THAT WE DID THAT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL, THE OLD IMPROVEMENTS AND THE PARKING LOT MELODY LANE AT 196,000. THAT WAS WHAT WAS TAKEN IN AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE KEPT AND WHERE THE PROJECTS WERE.

DONE. 2018 WE TOOK IN 1.7 MILLION DOLLARS. AND KEPT 954,000 OF THAT.

THE PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE WERE THE OHIO AND THEN THE MELODY LANE SEA WALL. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- WHAT IS NOT CAPTURED IS WE MIGHT HAVE PROJECT THAT'S ARE INCOME BETTERED AGAINST THE -- INCUMBERED AGAINST THE FUNDS AND MAYBE NOT STARTED AT THAT POINT.

THEY DID NOT MAKE THE LIST, BUT THEY WERE DISCUSSED TO BE

-- FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED. >> IN 2019 IT LOOKS VERY BAD, BUT WE TOOK IN THE 2.5 MILLION AND KEPT THE 1.2.

THE ONLY PROJECTS WE DID WERE JUST THOSE $2,000, ALMOST $3,000. HOWEVER, AGAIN, WE HAD PROJECTS THAT WERE INCOME BETTERED AGAINST OUR -- INCUMBERED AGAINST THE FUNDS. THE PROJECT HAD JUST NOT STARTED. AND THEN FISCAL YEAR 20.

3.7MILLION. WE KEPT 1.6 OF THAT.

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YOU CAN SEE BASED ON WHAT WE TAKE IN HOW MUCH EACH AGENCY

RECEIVES FROM THOSE FUNDS. >> OKAY.

>> THOSE ARE HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS AND THE PROJECTS SUSPENDED IN THAT TIME AGAINST THOSE FUNDS.

>> INTERESTING. ANY QUESTIONS? ARE WE STILL REQUIRED TO SPEND IMPACT FEES WITHIN A

CERTAIN -- BY A CERTAIN TIME. >> FIVE YEARS.

>> FIVE YEARS? >> UH-HUH.

>> OUR CITY ENGINEER HAS INITIATED THE UTILIZATION OF THE IMPACT FEES TO THE CIP. THAT'S SOMETHING I PUSHED JACK AND HE WAS LIKE WHAT ELSE CAN I SPEND? WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THE IMPACT FEES WE HAVE. PARKS, ROAD AND TRANSPORTATION , STORM WATER. WE ARE NOW UTILIZING THOSE IN THE CIP AND HOPEFULLY -- I DO BELIEVE 2021 AND 2022 WILL BE VERY BUSY YEARS ON THE CONSTRUCTION FRONT.

I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS ME. >> WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM, BUT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF DETERMINING HOW TO BEST SPEND THOSE FUNDS. JACK'S ON IT.

>> AND PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WITH I'M PABLGHT -- IMPACT FEES THEY ARE SPECIFIC. IF YOU TAKE AN IMPACT FEE IN THE GEORGIA AVENUE AREA FROM A DEVELOPER, THOSE FUNDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN THAT AREA.

AND SO IT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT RESTRICTIVE AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO A PROJECT ON. FOR YEARS THESE FUNDS WERE SITTING THERE AND WE WERE SAYING WE HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING, A PROJECT. AND THEY THEY CAN'T BE A RESTORATION. IT HAS TO BE A NEW PROJECT.

IT IS VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR IN THE PAST. THEY HAD PROBLEMS FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THIS. AND NOW CREATIVELY THEY HAVE COME UP WITH SOME NEW IDEAS AND AREAS THEY CAN UTILIZE THE FUNDS ALLOWABLE WITH PROJECTS.

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, SIR.

>> HOW ARE THEY ESTABLISHED? WHAT IS THE CALCULATION?

IS THAT WAY TOO COMPLICATED. >> THAT'S NOT A MY JOB.

I JUST TAKE THEM ON THE BACK END.

I THINK IT IS A PLANNING OR BUILDING --

>> MAYBE THAT IS TOO LONG TO ESTABLISH RIGHT NOW.

I ALWAYS HEARD THE COUNTY CHARGES SO MUCH MORE THAN THE CITY DOES. AND SO -- --

>> IT IS INTERESTING AND JOHN AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS. THERE ARE THREE DEPARTMENT THAT'S ARE INVOLVED WITH IMPACT FEES.

AS MR. MIMMS INDICATED, WE THE CITY, WE HAVE NOT ADJUSTED OUR FEES SINCE 2009. THE COUNTY DOES EVERY YEAR.

AND THEN THEY SEND US THOSE FEES.

THE REASON WHY WE GET TO HOLD ON TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERCENTAGE WHETHER IT BE EITHER 3 PERCENT OR FOR -- OR FOUR PERCENT BASED ON THE INTER LOCAL OF THE SPECIFIC IMPACT FEE IS WE ARE THE ONES CALCULATING THEM.

WE'RE DOING THE COLLECTION AND GETTING IT TO THE COUNTY.

THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT WE THEN HOLD ON TO.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT COME UP WITH IT.

WHETHER IT IS CALCULATED BY THE DEPARTMENTS AND VOTE OWED BY THE COMMISSION -- AND VOTED ON BY THE COMMISSION, THAT'S

SOMETHING THEY DO. >> THEY MEANING YOUR COUNTY?

>> THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. >> SO YOU TAKE --

>> THE SPREAD SHEET AND WHETHER IT IS PERMIT FOR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, WE CALCULATE WHAT THEY GIVE US.

AND FOR THE PERSON TO ACTUALLY GET THE BUILDING PERMIT --

>> WE CAN JUSTIFY OURS BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW WE CAME UP WITH

OURS. >> WELL, WE HAVE HAD THAT SINCE 2009. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE TAKING A LOOK AT AGAIN.

>> WELL, I KNOW THE LEGISLATURE HAS IN THE PAST SAID -- THEY MISS AROUND WITH IMPACT FEES ALL THE TIME AS THEY DID THIS PASTIME. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ALWAYS WANT IS JUSTIFICATION FOR WHY YOU ARE CHARGING WHAT YOU ARE CHARGING. EXACTLY.

SOME KIND OF FORMULA OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> THERE IS A FORMULA THAT IS RIGHT THERE.

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>> THIS DOCUMENT I FOUND -- WELL ALICIA DID, IN OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM. IT IS ALL OF THE FEES WE COLLECT. LAST YEAR IT BEGAN IN 1986 AND SINCE THAT TIME WITHIN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD THIS ONE I ASKED THE COUNTY TO CONFIRM THAT IT HAD NOT.

IT WAS DRAFTED IN 2000 AND SIGNED IN 2005.

THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD BE APPROVED BY BOTH COMMISSIONS.

>> WE TAKE A 4% ADMINISTRATIVE FEE AND WE REMIT 40%, RIGHT? ANOTHER 60% REMAINS THEN? DID I READ THAT WRONG?

>> IN ESSENCE WE ARE KEEPING 64%.

>> 64%. IT IS HIGHER THAN THE CITY IMPACT FEES. IT IS 60% OF THE COUNTY IMPACT

FEES. >> THERE IS A CITY IMPACT FEE

IN THERE TOO? >> YES.

>> SO GO BACK TO THE SPENDING QUESTION I HAD.

I HEAR CONCERNS AND CHALLENGES AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS TRANSPORTATION AND MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE.

I AM CHALLENGED WITH THAT ON A SPENDING PART AND I AM GOING TO BE WATCHING THAT. I HAVE REAL CONCERNS.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR WE HAVE PROBLEM SPENDING AND WE DON'T

HAVE SIDEWALKS. >> IF WE TAKE AN IMPACT FEE IN

THE AREA WHERE IT IS NEEDED. >> PERHAPS.

>> THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE WHERE A DEVELOPER MAY DO A DEVELOPMENT SAY ON JENKINS ROAD, AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE NEEDED ON 13TH STREET. WE CAN'T TAKE A DEVELOPER FEE THAT WE CHARGE THE DEVELOPER AND AN IMPACT FEE THERE TO DO

WORK HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AS INFRASTRUCTURE GROSS -- GROWS, THEN IT SHOULD HELP IMPACT THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

>> AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE MOBILITY FEE AND MOBILITY FEE STUDY.

AND THERE IS A COLLECTION OF TRANSPORTATION FEES NOW AND IT HAS TO BE BASED ON NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN IT COMES TO MULTI MOBILITY FEES IT CAN BE ANYTHING. IT IS SIDEWALKS AND IT IS BIKE LANES AND IT COULD BE STREET -- THEY ARE LOOKING AT LANDSCAPING OR ANYTHING IN THE PUBLIC REALM.

THEY LOOK AT ROADWAYS MORE THAN JUST THE MEANS OF GETTING A VEHICLE FROM .8 AND POINT B.

THAT'S WHERE IT IS MORE CONDUCIVE.

YOU WANT RETAIL ON THE FIRST LEVEL.

YOU WANT PEOPLE WALKING IT OUT.

THAT'S WHERE WE WILL START OUT.

WE MAY EXTEND IT FURTHER BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS.

WE CAN COLLECT THAT FEE AND USE IT.

>> THAT'S GREAT, RIGHT, WITH THE MOW -- WITH THE MOBILITY FEE. WE WERE ALL SITTING THERE A LITTLE FLAT FOOTED ON THIS ISSUE AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I THINK MAYBE TWICE A YEAR WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THIS.

WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE MONIES THAT ARE THERE FOR POST PROJECTS AND IT IS THE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AND I KNOW I AM REALLY CONFUSED AND WE CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS FOR THE COMMUNITY. I AM LEARNING AS WE GO THAT THAT -- I DIDN'T GET IT. THEY KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE

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PROBLEM. >> MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER, MR. ANDREWS HAS BEEN DOING AN ANNUAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE WERE DOING A QUARTERLY CIP OR CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION REPORT.

SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL HAVE THE QUARTERLY REPORT AND WE WILL INCORPORATE THE IMPACT FEES AND WE SHALL BE

CREATIVE. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IMPACT FEES.

>> IT IS HARD TO KEEP TRACK BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THINKING

ABOUT IT. >> JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.

>> AND IT IS HARD TO PLAN FOR THIS.

I WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE AND WHILE WE DO HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM IT IS DIFFERENT THAN UTILITIES.

UTILITIES YOU CAN BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE.

WHEN YOU NEED A SIDEWALK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH AND DESIGN STANDARDS AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS FAR AS VEHICLE CORRECTION.

WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE STREET? IS THERE ENOUGH GREEN SPACE OR DO YOU HAVE A CURB THERE THAT WILL PROTECT THE PEDESTRIAN AS THEY WALK DOWN THE ROAD? AND WHAT ABOUT THE LIGHT POLES AND WHAT ABOUT THE POWER POLES AND WHAT ABOUT STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE? YOU PUT A SIDEWALK IN THE ROAD SIDE SWELL AND NO OFFENSE TO MY FRIENDS IN PORT SAINT LIEU -- PORT ST. LUCIE, THEY PUT IT THERE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO GET KIDS FROM A TO B AND NOW THEY HAVE A ROAD FLOODING PROBLEM.

THERE WAS NO BETTER FOR THE WATER TO GO.

WE HAVE A STAFF AND SPENDING PROBLEM.

YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. IT IS AT 949,000 AND WE SAW THE NUMBERS ON THOSE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT'S WE HAVE PLANNED. WE ARE TRYING TO COLLECT FEES, BUT IT WILL NOT COVER THE PROJECT.

THAT'S WHY THE OTHER AVENUES OF COLLECTION AND CALLING IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR MAYBE BEING ABLE TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALKS OR IMPROVE THOSE THINGS INSTEAD OF IT ONLY

BEING CAPITAL. >> RIGHT.

GOOD POINTS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHTY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS

[g. Annexation Update]

>> WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING THAT WILL TALK ABOUT THE ANNEXATION PROGRESS WITH OUR TWO AVENUES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING. GO AHEAD.

>> AS YOU ALL RECALL, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY 6TH THAT WE HAD OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY.

NOT ONLY DID WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT WAS IN DRAFT FORM, TREASURE COAST, REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL PRESENTED AT THAT MEETING. THIS PRESENTATION I HAVE BEFORE YOU INCORPORATES THOSE SLIDES CHANGED AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND IT IS AN OVER VIEW OR REFRESHER AS TO WHY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS AND WE HAVE IT AS A STRATEGIC GOAL AND HAVE THE PLANNING -- HOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS HANDLING IT RIGHT NOW.

LET'S SPEAK TO THE GENERAL BENEFITS OF ANNEXATION.

IN GENERAL, ANNEXATION OF LAND UH PLOWS FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH, CONSISTENT SEE IN LAND DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING, PLANNING AND BUDGETING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS, SIDEWALKS, STORM WATER AND PARKS AND EFFICIENT DELIVERY OF PUBLIC SERVICES SUCH AS POLICE AND GARBAGE COLLECTION.

FOR RESIDENTS ANNEXATION PROVIDES FOR EFFICIENT PUBLIC SERVICES, ONE POINT OF CON -- CONTACT FOR SERVICE INQUIRIES WHICH IS CRITICAL. WE GET SO MANY CALLS ON A DAILY BASIS FROM RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY WHO THINK THEY ARE IN THE CITY. IT IS VERY CONFUSING BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER ON THE COUNTY LEVEL AND THE CITY LEVEL. WHEN I WAS IN THE COUNTY, IT WAS VERY CONFUSING FOR RESIDENTS.

THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE VERY SCAT -- SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND. A LOT OF COUNTIES STARTED IN 1995, THAT PERIOD, TO ENCOURAGE CITIES TO

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DADE COUNTY DID THAT. BROWARD COUNTY ALSO TRIED AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ANNEXATIONS AND TIMES TO JUST HAVE MORE CONCISE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES WHICH HAD LOCAL REPRESENTATION. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING WHEN I WAS IN BROWARD WAS REALLY MORE TO ENCOURAGE THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND FOR ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THEY ALWAYS FELT MORE AND CONTINUED TO -- AND IT PROVIDES FOR GREATER CONSISTENCY FOR OVERSIGHT -- IT IS UN UN-- UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

AND HALF THE TIME, YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEXT HAPPEN -- THE NEXT MAP THAT THAT ISN'T THE CASE.

>> IN COMPARISON WHY AN -- WHY ANNEXATION WITH PORT -- PORT SAINT LUCY. I'M SURE IT WILL BE.

IT LOOKS LIKE AN ENCLVE IN THERE.

ON -- ENCLAVE IN THERE. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE FOR PUBLIC SERVICES LIKE WE INDICATED BEFORE. SOME AREAS YOU CAN HAVE A GARBAGE TRUCK GOING DOWN YOUR STREET EVERY DAY.

THEY CAN COLLECT WEDNESDAY AND IN THE CITY TUESDAY AND

THURSDAY. >> NOT RIGHT NOW THOUGH.

>> SO WHY THEN IS ANNEXATION A PRIORITY? WITHOUT IT IT CAUSES INEFFICIENT SERVICE DELIVERY TO THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. IT IS DIFFICULTY IN PLAGE -- IN PLANNING FOR ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS YOU HAVE TWO ZONING CODES AND FUTURE LAND USES.

IT IS DIFFICULT EVEN WHEN YOU ANNEX IN BECAUSE OFTEN WE DON'T SHARE THE SAME ZONING AS THE COUNTY.

DEVELOPERS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DEVELOP.

JURISDICTIONAL CONFUSION AND LAND USE AND ZONING INCONSISTENCY AND ROADWAY AND OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE AND UNFAIR BENEFITS WITHOUT TAX BENEFITS.

WITHOUT TAX PAYMENTS. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH OF VIRGINIA. IT IS WITHIN IN -- WITHIN THIS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE NEIGHBORS THAT ONE IS IN THE COUNTY AND ONE IS IN THE CITY.

THERE IS A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES WITH WHAT ONE NEIGHBOR CAN DO WITH THE OTHER.

I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT A COMPARISON TO RESIDENTIAL TAXES. I CAN ALWAYS BLOW IT UP.

ON THE BOTTOM I TRIED TO GET THAT TO COMPARE.

IT IS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WERE SIMILAR IN VALUE.

THE CITY'S IS A LITTLE HIGHER SO WHAT THEY ARE TAXING -- THEIR EVENTUAL TAX BILL WAS A LITTLE HIGHER.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT IT WASN'T THAT DIFFERENT.

I DIDN'T SEE AN ALARMING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. IT IS HOW WE CALCULATE WHAT GOES ON. SAINT LIEU -- SAINT LUCY COUNTY FEES THAT ARE REMOVED WHEN YOU ANNEX THEM AND WHAT FEES ARE REPLACED AND BECOME A FEE ADDED TO YOUR TAX BILL.

IT VARIES SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY GIVE AN EXACT NUMBER. THE CHANGE IS ROUGHLY FIVE MILLS. IT IS MSTU FEES OR TACTIONS -- TAXES THAT ARE PUT ON INTO EACH RESIDENTIAL BILL WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY.

AND NOW HERE IS WHAT OUR GOAL IS.

WE DID GET THE GO AHEAD FROM BOTH COMMISSIONERS AT THIS JOINT MEETING TO PULL UP THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS DRAFTED IN 2018, AND I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THIS MORNING AND THE INTENT -- IT IS IN FLORIDA 171 IN THE STATUTES IS TO HAVE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE SERVICE DELIVERY AND A FLEXIBLE PROCESS TO ADJUST BOUNDARIES AND ADJUST WIDE RANGE OF THE EFFECTS OF ANNEXATION, REDUCE CONFLICTS

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EVERYTHING IS ABOUT NEGOTIATION AND COMPROMISE TO COME UP WITH THE AGREEMENT. THE SCOPE -- THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN LAID OUT FOR US AS A GUIDING TOOL BY TREASURE COAST AND IT IS THE FOLLOW. THE FOLLOWING.

SERVICE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS AND FIRE RESCUE WATER AND WASTE WATER, ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND A PROCESS AND SCHEDULE FOR ANNEXATION AND A PROCESS FOR LAND USE DECISIONS AND PREREQUISITES THAT ARE LIMITED -- OR NOT LIMITED TO JUST PART ONE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. IT MAY BE NONCONTINUOUS.

IT MAY CREATE ENCLAVES AND MAY BE NON-COMPACT.

THOSE ARE THE REQUISITES YOU CANNOT CREATE ENCLAVES.

THAT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING HOW I WROTE THAT.

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW ON THE TABLE HERE.

THE MATH I HAD ON THE LAST PAGE WAS WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PHASE 1 IN THAT LINKIN PARK AREA NORTHWEST.

AND ALSO THIS IS WHAT WE WILL WILL BE REVISING AND EXAMINING WITH TREASURE COAST. IT IS IN THE PRO SUCCESS OF CREATING -- IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A SCOPE WITH THEM AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

WE ARE CONTINUING THE PROCESS AGAIN BY LOOKING AT OUR UTILITY AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

WE HAVE THE BOUNDARY MAP THE UTILITY AUTHORITY GAVE TO US.

AND A FEW MONTHS BACK AT OUR PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING FORWARD IS TO CONTINUE TO BRING IN ANNEXATIONS THAT WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN. THE 25TH IS THE DIVISOR AND OKEECHOBEE AND THE VIRGINIA AREA.

YOU KNOW HOW IT COMES IN. VIRGINIA TO OKEECHOBEE.

AND THAT IS THE DIVIDING LINE. AND WE HAVE ABOUT 200 THAT WE HAVE SIGNED AND SEALED. IT IS A MATTER OF GOING THROUGH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTICE AND LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS WHICH CAN BE A LITTLE -- WELL, IT CAN BE TIME-COMSUMING. OIR NEXT ROUND IS -- OUR NEXT ROUND IS 32 PROPERTIES IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.

WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

AS YOU CAN ALL NOTICE NOW, THE WAY WE ARE HANDLING PROJECTS WHEN OUR DEVELOPMENT -- WHEN THE DEVELOPMENTS -- DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE COMING IN, WE LIKE TO ENCOURAGE AN NEGLIGENT -- ANNEXATION SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THEM THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS BECAUSE THEY WILL ULTIMATELY BE IN THE CITY.

WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, THE COUNTY WAS GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DOING THE ANNEXATION -- I MEAN DOING -- I MEAN DOING THE REVIEW AND HANDING OVER THE PROJECT TO THE CITY. IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH OUR CODE REGULATIONS. AND SO WE ARE TRYING NOT TO DO THAT NOW. AS YOU CAN RECALL WE START OFF WITH ANNEXATIONS AND FUTURE LAND USE AND ULTIMATELY YOU WILL GET THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND THE SITE PLAN AND THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THESE GO TO -- ANNEXATIONS GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD

FIRST? >> YES.

>> THAT IS ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS.

AND THE ONES COMING DOWN THE PIKE, YOU HAVE THEM

PRIORITIZED BY QUADRANT? >> WELL, WE WERE ADVISED A FEW MONTHS BACK TO ALWAYS KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, EQUAL THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH OUR ANNEXATION. SO WITH EVERY GROUP WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME IN EACH QUADRANT.

>> GO BACK TO THE MAP OF THE QUADRANT.

>> JUST SO I AM HERE WE HAVE THE QUADRANTS AND THERE IS OBVIOUSLY SOME OF WHAT I CALL HOLES HERE.

WE ARE LOOKING TO FILL THOSE UP AND BRING THOSE UNDER THE

ANNEXATION OF THE CITY. >> IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING INCITIED OF GOING -- THING INSTEAD OF GOING FURTHER WEST.

BETTER PUBLIC SERVICES FOR ALL AND BETTER PLANNING.

YOU DO YOUR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU DO EVERYTHING.

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>> ZONE 1A, YOU REMEMBER 1A WHICH WAS UP IN --

>> THAT WOULD BE MORE IN THE PALESTINIAN CON PARK AND THE NORTHWEST AREA, PARADISE PARK.

>> YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE ON THE BACK OF

THIS. >> YEAH.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY.

>> EXACTLY. >> ARE WE CONCENTRATING ON

THAT? >> THAT'S PART OF OUR WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH TREASURE COAST TO ASK THEM.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A HUGE GAP, THE BIGGEST ONE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP. I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD DETER FROM THAT BECAUSE THE COMMISSION DID AGREE TO START THERE. IF WE ARE DOING THESE OTHER

ONES WHY NOT START OFF -- >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. AS LONG AS IT IS NOT WHOLESALE, WHY CAN'T WE JUST CONTINUE TO DO IT? IF YOU LOOK UP CLOSE, AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE, IT SEEMED THE OBVIOUS PLACE TO START BECAUSE

IT WAS ABOUT HALF AND HALF. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THAT PROCESS I REMEMBER WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF HOW WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT.

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THERE WAS A WAY TO DO IT BY VOTE OR PROXY OR NOW -- WHAT IS THAT PROCESS OF BRINGING THEM --

>> IT IS THROUGH THE INNER LOCAL SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENT. IT IS THE JOINT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, BUT AS PART OF THE CITY AND NOT GOING FOR A REFERENDUM.

THAT'S THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THESE TWO JURISDICTIONS.

IT IS JUST A MATTER OF GETTING IT GOING TO CIRCLE.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING OUT WITH TREASURE

COAST THE BEST WAY FORWARD. >> THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS POLICE DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC

[h. Police Department Strategic Plan Update Presentation Mental Health Strategy and City Actions Community Police Expansion Crime Reduction Action Plan]

PLAN UPDATE PRESENTATION. >> MR. MIMMS?

>> YES, MA'AM. THIS IS THE LAST PRESENTATION BY STAFF TODAY. AND WE HAVE OUR POLICE CHIEF THAT IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, COMMUNITY POLICING AND CRIME RE -- REDUCTION.

>> CHIEF, WELCOME AGAIN. >> IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO

BE BEFORE YOU. >> THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING HARD FOR CITIZENS.

MENTAL HEALTH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS WE ARE DEALING WITH WHEN IT COMES TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

WE HAVE ONE TO FIVE PER DAY AND THIS IS HOW EXTENSIVE IT IS. WE ARE SENDING OUR OFFICERS TO A 40-HOUR COURSE OF CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAMS TO THE TRAINING. THEY LEARN HOW TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND GIVE THEM THE ACTUAL SKILLS THEY NEED TO ASSIST THEM AND TO NAVIGATE THEM.

SOMETIMES WHEN ONE PERSON IS SPEAKING, AS AN EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE SOMETHING IN THAT VOICE OR TONE THAT CREATES HAVOC FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. WE KNOW TO GO TO THE NEXT PERSON TO TAKE OVER. WE ARE LEARNING THOSE THINGS.

ALSO IN OUR TRAINING WE DO DE -- DE ESCALATION AND IMPLICIT BIAS AND IT IS ONE COMPONENT.

WE DO OUR BEST TO HELP THE OFFICERS MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. I WANT TO SHOW YOU TWO INCIDENTS. THIS IS WHEN THE ACTIONS OF THE OFFICERS PLAY A BIG ROLE IN WHAT THEY DO.

IN THIS SITUATION, THIS IS WHEN AN OFFICER WAS ON A

BRIDGE -- >> 300 IS SHUTTING DOWN

SOUTHBOUND. >> 10-4.

>> EVERYBODY GO TO TACT 1. >> YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT T

OKAY? >> I KNOW.

TRUST ME. I KNOW.

I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN MY LIFE TOO.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT AND A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH.

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>> THERE SOME -- >> THERE SOME WHAT?

>> WHAT'S GOING ON? >> ALL RIGHT.

>> STOP, MA'AM. STOP! COME HERE!

>> IN THAT SITUATION THE OFFICERS HAD TO HAVE A QUICK RESPONSE. IN THIS CASE WE HAD THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT AND WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER BECAUSE HAD -- BECAUSE THE INTERSTATE HAD TO BE BLOCKED OFF AND THE ROADS STOPPED BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION. IT IS THE COMBINED EFFORT.

THE ONE THAT IS THE SCARIEST FOR US, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE REALITY OF WHAT WE DO IS WHEN THERE IS A SUICIDE BY COP. MEANING A PERSON WANTS US TO END THEIR LIVES. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF

THAT. >> THAT'S THE KNIFE THE GUY

HAS. >> FORT PIERCE, 21, I HAVE A MAN WITH A KNIFE, BLACK MALE. PUT THE KNIFE DOWN, SIR! PUT THE KNIFE DOWN! PUT THE KNIFE DOWNRIGHT NOW! PUT THE DOWN NOW! RIGHT NOW, SIR, PUT IT DOWN! PUT IT DOWNRIGHT NOW! PUT THE KNIFE DOWN! SIR, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

COME ON. GET ON THE GROUND, MAN.

I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS. >> I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DO

IT. >> I DON'T, SIR.

GET DOWN. GET DOWN ON THE GROUND.

COME ON. GET ON THE GROUND.

THANK YOU, SIR. PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK. DON'T MOVE, SIR.

>> I'M NOT GONNA MOVE. I'M NOT GONNA PUT THAT ON YOUR CONSCIENCE. THAT'S BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT

YOU LIKE YOU ARE A GOOD DUDE. >> DO NOT MOVE, SIR.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME? >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I JUST TOLD YOU.

DIDN'T I JUST TELL YOU? YOU COULD HAVE SHOT ME.

YOU COULD THE HAVE SHOT ME. >> THE DEFENDANT IS PUT IN

HAPPENED CUFF -- HANDCUFFS. >> YOU ARE A GOOD DUDE, BUT

YOU COULD HAVE SHOT ME. >> IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE IN

THE CAR? >> WHAT IS GOING ON?

>> AIN'T NOTHING GOING ON. DO WHAT Y'ALL GOT TO DO.

>> YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE ON YOU?

>> MY WALLET AND MY PHONE. THAT'S IT.

>> 10-4. ONE DETAINED.

>> ALL RIGHT, MAN. STAND UP.

>> WHERE ARE YOU AT? WHO IS OUT HERE? YOU A GOOD DUDE, MAN. I WAS EXPECTING TO GET SHOT TONIGHT. I WAS EXPECTING TO GET SHOT,

MY BROTHER. >> WANTED TO GET SHOT?

>> HELL YEAH. >> WHY?

>> [BLEEP]. MY LIFE IS [BLEEP] BRO.

>> IF THAT SITUATION THE OFFICER, HE WAS WRITING A REPORT AND YOU SAW THE TIME OF NIGHT IT WAS, EARLY MORNING.

AS HE WAS WRITING THE REPORT THIS GUY HAD BEEN JUST RIDING AROUND TO FIND AN OFFICER. HE SAW THE OFFICER PARKED.

HE PARKED HIS VEHICLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM AND JUMPED OUT WITH A KNIFE. IT WAS THE QUICK ACTIONS OF THE OFFICER TO JUMP OUT OF HIS CAR AND THEN TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION. WE DO THIS FOR THE TRAINING OF OUR OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH

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>> NOT REALLY THAT, CHIEF. I DO HAVE A COMMENT THOUGH.

YOU KNOW, RECENTLY I HAD AN EXPERIENCE WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WHICH I SPENT 12 HOURS THERE.

YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT THE BAKER ACT CALLS, I PERSONALLY WENT ON THREE CALLS THAT NIGHT THAT WERE -- THEY CODE THEM AS MENTAL. AND IF WE DIDN'T GET TO THE END SCENE -- WE DIDN'T GET TO THE END SCENE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON BUT POLICE WERE DISPATCHED AND THE FIRE SIGNAL WAITS FOR TRANSPORT. I WAS ASTOUNDED THAT NIGHT, COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR, ON THE NUMBER OF CALLS OUR RESOURCES ARE BEING TIED UP ON.

WE PURPOSELY WAITED IN THE HOLDING AREA TO BE CALLED IN.

WE WERE CALLED OFF AND SENT BACK TO THE STATION, BUT THAT CONCERNS ME. NUMBER ONE, THE TIE UP OF THE RESOURCE. VERY SHORTLY AFTER ONE OF THOSE CALLS WE WERE SENT ON A -- ON AN OVERDOSE WHERE WE HAD TO GO TO THE SCENE AND ADMINISTER SOME AID TO SOMEONE THAT HAD OVERDOSED. THAT WAS IN LIEU OF IT.

IT STUCK WITH ME. I AM CONCERNED WITH POLICING GOING FORWARD AND HOW WE ARE DEALING WITH THAT.

MAY NOT BE A QUESTION TO ANSWER TODAY, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM LOOKING AT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND BRINGING IN OTHER RESOURCES TO HELP WITH THAT. PARTICULARLY WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT. I KNOW IN SOME CASES THE POLICE NEEDS TO BE THERE. AT SOME POINT THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES WE CAN BEGIN TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE MENTAL HEALTH IS SO RAMPANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ASSETS AND REALLY BEING TIED UP ON SOME OF THESE FREQUENT CALLS

OF SOME OF THE MENTAL CASES. >> WHAT ALSO OCCURS WITH THE VICTIM ADVOCATES, WE UTILIZE THEM IN THE CAPACITY AS WELL.

WHEN THE OFFICER MIGHT GO TO A HOME, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE RETED -- REPEATED CALLS FOR SERVICE AT A PARTICULAR

HOUSE. >> OKAY.

>> IF THE CALLS ARE REPEATED WE KNOW IT IS BECAUSE OF MENTAL ISSUES AND WE HAVE OUR VICTIM ADVOCATE FALL UP WITH THEM SO THEY CAN RECEIVE THE PROPER SERVICES.

WE TRY AND LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF THAT.

>> AS A SUGGESTION HERE WE HAVE THE NEW CEO OF NEW HOUR HIGH SWRENS -- HORIZONS. ARE WE PARTNERING WITH THEM, CHIEF, TO HELP IN THESE CASES TO REFER SOME OF OUR FREQUENT CALL THE -- CALLERS TO THIS TO GET THEM INVOLVED?

>> THEY ARE PART OF OUR TRAINING ASPECT.

IT IS PART OF THE PROGRAM. >> I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT WE ARE GETTING REPORTS OF SERVICE CALLS THAT YOU MAKE.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON A WEEKLY BASIS OR SOMETHING.

I WAS REALLY SURPRISED AT THE NUMBER OF BAKER ACTS.

I WAS REALLY SURPRISED. >> SO WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY POLICING AND DISPATCHING CRIME REDUCTION AS A PART OF IT, YOU CAN SEE THE CITY IS CONTINUOUSLY GROWING.

AS OF JANUARY 1ST WE HIRED 22 OFFICERS AND FIVE ARE SPONSORED. MEANING SPONSORED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, WE WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MIRROR THAT OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO WHEN A PERSON CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO THE ACADEMY TO GET THE TRAINING, IF THEY RISE TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WE WILL SPONSOR THEM.

IT COSTS APPROXIMATELY 25,000 TO GET THEM THROUGH THAT PART. AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE IF WE GIVE THEM A SALARY AS THEY ATTEND THE ACADEMY.

WE HAVE FIVE -- WE HAD A GRANT FOR 10 OFFICERS AND WE HIRED FIVE. WE ARE HOPING TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THE OTHER FIVE AND WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR THE ADDITIONAL 10. THEY OPENED THE GRANT BACK UP. THE REASON I AM SAYING THAT NOW AND THE PRESENTATION PRIOR , AS THE CITY CONTINUED TO ANNEX AND EXPAND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GROW AND EXPAND AS WELL. AS THE CITY DEVELOPS BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH AND EVEN TO THE WEST, IT IS GONNA COME TO A POINT WHERE I'M GONNA HAVE -- I HAVE DISTRICT 1 AND I HAVE DISTRICT 2. IT IS DIVIDED BY ORANGE -- ORANGE AVENUE. AT THE RATE OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY I MIGHT HAVE TO IMPLEMENT A THIRD DISTRICT TO HANDLE THE CALL VOLUME. I SAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE RESPONSE TIME. AS THE CITY IS GROWING, THE

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ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE NORTH.

WHEN IT GOES TO THE NORTH BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY I THINK TWO AREAS WE CAN GO UP. WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THESE AREAS AND IT CREATES A PROBLEM.

SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE OF EMERGENCY, I HAVE TO HAVE THE OFFICERS THAT ARE GONNA BE READILY AVAILABLE OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DEAL WITH THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AS THE CITY GROWS, AND I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE GROWTH, I AM PROUD TO SEE THAT. IT IS A PROBLEMATIC ISSUE FOR US. WE ARE RESPONSE -- RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY ANNEXING TO THE CITY.

AS COMMUNITY POLICING EXPANSION ALSO INCLUDE, WE GET OFFICERS HIRED THE ONLY WAY WE PULL FROM IS FROM PATROL.

WE STARTED OUT WITH TWO K-9 OFFICERS AND NOW WE HAVE FIVE. THE ULTIMATE GOAL WAS TO HAVE ONE ON EACH SQUAD SO THAT -- ON EACH CYCLE SO ALL OF THE SAID IS COMPLETED COVERAGE REGARDLESS OF THE TIME OF DAY. WE HAVE ONE IN OUR UNDERCOVER UNIT. WE TRIED TO EXPAND OUR MARINE UNITS SO OUR BOAT WOULD BE OUT THERE ON A -- IN A FREQUENT FASHION. OUR BIKE PATROLS, WE ARE PUTTING THEM TOGETHER AND A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS ARE CERTIFIED AND OUR HOPES IS TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE PER QUAID -- PER SQUAD TO HAVE A CERTIFIED BIKE OFFICER.

SO WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THERE IS DOWNTIME THEY CAN JUMP ON THEIR BIKES AND RIDE AND WHEN WE NEED TO PUT A SQUAD TOGETHER TO DEAL WITH A A SPECIFIC SITUATION WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. WITH THE CSO AND THAT IS DOWN IN THE CORNER. WITH THE CSO'S WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THE TRAFFIC STOP AND DELAY CRIMES.

THIS FREES OUR OFFICERS TO DO TRAFFIC CONTROL BECAUSE I KNOW WITH THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS WE HAVE THEY DO THE TRAFFIC STOPS AND THEY ARE ABLE TO MONITOR THOSE AREAS IN NEED. AND OUR EXPLORERS.

WE ARE DOING OUR RECRUITING FOR THEM BECAUSE OUR HOPE IS TO MAKE THEM THE FUTURE OFFICERS OF OUR CITY.

WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THAT AS WELL.

OUR CRIME SUPPRESSION UNIT, AND THESE ARE OUR UNDERCOVER OFFICERS. WITH THE CRIME SUPPRESSION UNIT, WHAT THEY DO, THEY USED TO BE A THREE-DAY OR FOUR-DAY WEEK, WE HAVE THEM NOW SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

WE DO THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE JUDGING WHEN THEY WERE WORKING AND WHEN THEY WERE NOT. WE CHANGED THEIR HOURS DEPENDING ON WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW IT IS GOING.

ALL OF OUR CRIME REDUCTION PLANS ARE FLUID.

THEY ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING ON. WE PUT A SIGN OUT AND IT TELLS THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE DOING A LAWFUL SEARCH WARRANT.

YOU WANT THE PEOPLE TO KNOW. AND THE OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED AND WE GIVE THEM THE RESULTS OF WHAT IS TAKEN OUT.

WE SAY WE ARE WORKING FOR YOU. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SLAM THE DOOR IN THEIR FACE AND SOME PEOPLE CHEER.

BUT THEY KNOW. WE ARE MAKING THEM AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING. AS YOU CAN SEE WE GET A NUMBER OF THINGS FROM MARIJUANA TO EDIBLES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT. THE ONE THAT IS IN -- ON MY RIGHT CORNER IS -- IT CAME FROM A TRAFFIC STOP.

ONE OF THE OFFICERS DID A TRAFFIC STOP.

WE ARE ACTIVELY OUT THERE WORKING FOR YOU.

WHEN WE LOOK AT A FIVE-YEAR OVERVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE CONTINUING. IN 2020 WE HAD 90,000 CALLS.

THAT'S A LOT OF CALLS FOR THESE OFFICERS.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IS TO DEVELOP AN EVENING SHIFT SQUAD. WE LOOKED AT WHERE THE HIGHEST VOLUMES OF CALLS TOOK PLACE AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET RELIEF TO THE OFFICERS BECAUSE ONE THING WE TRY TO AVOID IS THEM GOING TO A BURNOUT AND THAT CAN OCCUR.

WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER AN EVENING

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WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE OFFICERS TO DO IS NOT ONLY TO RESPOND TO THE CALLS IS WE ARE HAVING TO BE PRO ACTIVE AND GOING OUT AND DISCOVERING AND MEETING WITH PEOPLE TO BE PRO ACTIVE IN THE AREA. A LOT OF TIMES THAT IS NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE IT IS GOING FROM CALL TO CALL.

THIS IS WHAT THE EXPECTATION OF THEM ARE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON, THE CRIME WAS UP 3% LAST YEAR. THE ONLY REASON IS BECAUSE OF VEHICLE THEFTS AND PEOPLE LEAVING VALUABLES IN THE VEHICLES. THIS IS WHY WE WERE UP BY 3%.

WE ARE WORKING HARD FOR THAT AS WELL.

THIS GIVES YOU A SCOM -- A COMPARISON FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE REDUCTION IN CRIME. MORE IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE OF THE HARD EFFORTS OF OUR CITIZENS -- I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CITIZENS. OUR CITIZENS WORK -- THEY ARE WORKING BETTER WITH US. THEY ARE TRUSTING US MORE.

THEY ARE GIVING US INFORMATION AND CALLING IN AND TELLING US WHEN THINGS ARE NOT QUITE RIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I AM VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.

>> I THINK WE NEED -- MR. MIMMS WE NEED TO TAKE THE BADGE THERE AND POST IT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WEBSITE SAY WEEING ARE A SAFE CITY. I DON'T THINK WE -- I HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE. I WOULD LIKE TO TOUT THAT AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.

IF YOU CAN GO BACK, CHIEF, I PERKED UP BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION AND A CONCERN. YOU ARE REPORTING CRIME STATISTICS AND HERE IS A CONCERN I HAVE.

MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

IF WE HAVE AN EXCHANGE BETWEEN TWO INDIVIDUALS, ONE DECIDES TO GO AFTER SOMEONE, STRIKE THEM WITH A WEAPON OR DISCHARGE THE WEAPON, SHOOT THEM, THEY END UP IN THE HOSPITAL. THOSE PEOPLE UNCOOPERATIVE, WHERE IS THAT CATEGORIZED HERE? IS IT CATEGORIZED? THE SUSTAINED -- THAT SUSTAIN

GUNSHOT WOUNDS. >> IT IS CAPTURED.

>> IS IT CAPTURED HERE IN THIS?

>> CAPTURED THERE. IT IS STILL CAPTURED.

IT WILL BE -- SAY IT IS AN -- IT IS BAT -- AG BATTERY.

>> OKAY. IF A PERSON IS SHOT IT IS

AGGRAVATED BATTERY. >> IT IS TITLED AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, BUT BY LAW IT IS AGGRAVATED BATTERY.

WHAT HAPPENS IS WE -- WE GO THROUGH THIS A LOT OF TIMES.

PEOPLE ARE SHOT SEVERAL TIMES AND THEY REFUSE TO COOPERATE WITH US. THEY WILL SAY, WELL, ONCE I FIND OUT, I'M GONNA DO MY PART FIRST AND THEN I'LL CALL YOU.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. IT HOSPITAL -- IT SHOULDN'T WORK THAT WAY. WE REACH OUT TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND WE REACH OUT TO THEIR MOTHERS.

WE WANT TO GET THIS RESOLVED, BUT THE MENTALITY IS STILL THERE. IT IS STREET JUSTICE INSTEAD OF OUR JUSTICE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT, BUT ON THE OTHER PART IT IS WITH THE COMMUNITY'S HELP, A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DO FIND ARE BEING MORE REVEALING TO US.

WE GIVE OUT OUR BUSINESS CARDS AND THEY THROW THEM DOWN AND SAY I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. OUR HOPE IS THAT THAT ONE PERSON MIGHT BE THE PHONE CALL. WE ALWAYS HOPE IF THAT

CAPACITY. >> I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

I HAVE SEEN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEONE OBVIOUSLY HAS SUSTAINED INJURY AND DON'T WANT TO PRESS CHARGES OR KNOW WHO DID IT. THEY JUST KNOW BULLETS HIT THEM FROM SOMEWHERE. I WAS WONDERING HOW WE WERE DEALING WITH THAT. I HEARD OF UNCOOPERATIVE WITNESSES TO THESE CRIMES. I WONDERING HOW THAT IS

CATEGORIZED. >> IT IS CATEGORIZED THE SAME. WE INVESTIGATE IT --

>> OKAY. >> TO THE FULLEST EX-- EXTENT ANYWAY. LIKE I SAID, WE TRY THE FAMILY. WE TRY OTHER WITNESSES.

WE GO BACK TO THE SCENE IN HOPES.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THERE IS A SHOOTING, WE GO BACK AND -- THAT'S INVESTIGATIVE SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.

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>> I UNDERSTAND. I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN THE CAT GORRIZATION. I HEAR THESE THINGS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS BEING CATEGORIZED.

>> IT IS STILL CAPTURED THERE.

>> STILL CAPTURED. VERY WELL.

>> SO LOOKING AT THE FIVE-YEAR COMPARISON AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO HOLD ON TO BECAUSE IT SHOWS US MOVING IN A RIGHT WAY. THIS IS A DEPARTURE FROM WHAT WE USED TO BE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

IT IS ASSUMED THAT IN EACH OF THOSE YEARS THE CAT GORRIZATIONS AND TALKING ABOUT THE MAJOR CRIMES THAT WE ARE MEASURING EACH ONE EXACTLY THE SAME, AND DL ISN'T SOME FORM -- AND THERE ISN'T SOME FORM OF A DEPARTURE.

WE ARE GETTING THE EMAILS, CHIEF, YOU HAVE TO

UNDERSTAND. >> I KNOW.

>> WE GET THE EMAILS ON THIS AND IT SAYS THE ONLY REASON WE ARE GETTING THE GOOD MARKS IS BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE

SAME THINGS DIFFERENTLY. >> AND I AM SITTING BEHIND MY DESK CHANGING STUFF. GOT IT.

>> AND I WANT YOU TO TELL US ONE MORE TIME --

>> FOR THE RECORD -- AND SEE THIS IS THE THING.

AND THIS IS THE PART THAT IS SO SAD.

I HAVE TO SAY THIS. FORT -- FORT PIERCE IS NOT THE SAME. WE CHANGE HOW WE DO BUSINESS.

WE CHANGE HOW WE POLICE. WE CHANGE SO MANY THINGS.

WE SET A STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE THAT EVERY OFFICER HAS TO STAND BY. THAT IS FIRST AND FOREST -- FIRST AND FOREMOST.

WE MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A SIMPLE FORMULA.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GREAT WORK ETHIC.

YOU HAVE TO COME OUT AND DO YOUR JOB.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU HAVE TO CARE.

THAT IS THREE SIMPLE THINGS. IT IS THOSE THREE THINGS THAT MAKE US SUCCESSFUL. WHEN THESE OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE AND WORKING HARD TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE THEY ARE UPSET WITH ME OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THEY SAY, OH, IT IS NOT TRUE. AND I'M SAYING IT IS FACTUAL.

WE HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI ON HOW MANY OCCASIONS WHERE THEY CAME IN AND WENT THROUGH ALL OF OUR REPORTS AND OUR ACCOUNTS -- OUR ACCOUNTABILITIES AND SUCH AND PROVEN ALL OF THE ALLEGATIONS FALSE.

THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN -- I THINK THEY INSPECTED OUR RECORDS THREE TIMES SO FAR. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE GO TO THE FDLE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE TO MAKE THESE COMPLAINTS. IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE DEDICATION EFFORTS OF THESE HARD-WORKING OFFICERS.

THAT'S THE PART THAT HURTS. THESE OFFICERS ARE RUNNING INTO THE GUNFIRE. THEY ARE NOT RUNNING AWAY FROM IT. THEY ARE RUNNING INTO IT.

AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM, IT IS SAD FOR ME THAT BITTERNESS IS THERE, THAT THEY WOULD TRY AND HARM THESE OFFICERS WHEN I KNOW FACTUAL THAT THEY ARE OUT

THERE PROTECTING OUR CITY. >> SO AND TO FUNNING UP, EACH OF -- TO FINISH UP EACH OF THOSE YEARS IS MEASURED ON THE

SAME SCALE? >> YES.

>> CATEGORIZING AND THE WHOLE THING.

>> YES. >> AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN ON THE NEXT PAGE ABOUT THE -- IT IS THE LOWEST -- PART 1 CRIMES, IS THAT THAT CHART -- IS THAT CHART PART 1 CRIMES?

>> THESE ARE THE FELONIES, THE HOMICIDES, THE RAPES AND THE AG ASSAULTS THAT INCORPORATES THE SHOOTINGS AND THE BURGLARY

AND LARCENY AND THEFT. >> AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS THE LOWEST NUMBER FOR 2020 -- 2020 IS THE LOWEST NUMBER OF PART 1 CRIMES REPORTED SINCE 1971. THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER, RIGHT? IT WAS 1108 IN 1971?

AM I READING THAT RIGHT? >> THE COMMUNITY HAS CHANGED.

WHEN I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH BEFORE I APPLIED FOR CHIEF, I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY DURING A TIME WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND EVERYONE CAME AND WE MET. I LISTENED TO ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I SAID THE VOICE OF PEOPLE WERE IN THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT IS THERE BECAUSE WE LISTENED TO WHAT THEY SAID.

WE WANTED TO BE BETTER. WE WANTED TO BE THE BEST.

WE ARE DOING SOME REMARKABLE THINGS.

MY DETECTIVE DIVISION I WATCH AND BECAUSE I AM A PART OF HOW

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>> ME TOO. >> OH, I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT ACCREDITATION. WE ARE ACCREDITED, RIGHT? AND THAT'S A PERIODIC PROCESS, RIGHT?

>> EVERY THREE YEARS. THE YEAR BEFORE LAST WE WERE ACCREDITED. THAT'S --

>> THAT'S GOING TO COME UP AGAIN SOON.

>> YES. AND WE ARE PREPARED.

EVEN KRT ACCREDITATION -- EVEN WITH THE ACCREDITATION, WE PASSED THAT WITH FLYING COLORS AND I WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT

THAT. >> GREAT.

>> I PUT THIS IN HERE BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAKE YOU AWARE WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WE ARE WELL OVER A THOUSAND HOURS. WE ARE ALWAYS INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY JUST DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE ARE AS ONE. WE ARE ONE FORT PIERCE AS I AM HEARING. AND SO WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE AS ONE. WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE A BETTER FORT PIERCE. WHEN WE PARTICIPATED IN THE JUNETEENTH MARCH, THAT WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

WE RECEIVED NATIONAL COVERAGE WITH THAT WALK.

ONE OF THE THINGS I AM SO VERY PROUD OF IS THE RICH HOUSE -- THE RICH HOUSE. IT IS FINALLY, FINALLY ABOUT TO COME INTO PLAY. 230 -- 2304, IT IS A SAFE HOUSE AND YOU CAN GO THERE AND RECEIVE INFORMATION THAT HOPEFULLY EMPOWERS YOUR LIFE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE WILL WORK WITH OUR CHILDREN AND WE WILL WORK WITH OUR SENIORS AND THE PARENTS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.

WE WANT TO WORK IT OUT WHEN THE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL WE CAN WORK WITH THE SENIORS OR THE ADULTS.

EVERY TIME FRAME OF THE RICH HOUSE WILL COME INTO PLAY.

WE DID A SOFT OPENING WITH THE RICH HOUSE ON APRIL 8TH WHERE WE INVITED OUR SENIORS. AND IT IS JUST SO AMAZING TO SEE THE SENIORS GETTING EMAILS FOR THE FIRST TIME AND A LOT OF THIS AND THEY HAVE A PLACE TO BE, BUT AT THE RICH HOUSE WE TEACH THEM THE SKILL BASE SO THEY CAN ALSO BE SUCCESSFUL.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR SPONSORS BECAUSE IT JUST COULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT IT.

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK WE FOUND OUT IN THE PANDEMIC IT REALLY CAME HOME TO US THAT THE PEOPLE WHO NEEDED THE MOST, THE SHOTS THE MOSTS OR THE TESTS THE MOST, WERE THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT HAVE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION SKILLS, AND WE WERE MISSING THEM.

WE WEREN'T ABLE TO REACH THEM.

>> SO WITH THE RICH HOUSE WE WILL LEARN ALL THESE THINGS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> QUICK QUESTION, CHIEF. ON THE 2021, ANY INDICATORS OF GOOD REPORTING? DO YOU DO A MID-YEAR CHECK IN ON THAT WITH US? CRIME STATISTIC REPORTING OR ANYTHING YOU ARE SEEING? IS THAT THE END OF 21 WHEN WE WILL GET THOSE NUMBERS? JUST CURIOUS HOW WE ARE DOING

IN THE CATEGORY. >> WE JUST SUN MITT -- SUBMITTED OUR NUMBERS. NORMALLY WE SUBMIT OUR NUMBERS IN JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST AND DUE AT THE END.

WE ARE GETTING READY TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM THEY ARE USING AND THIS IS A NATIONAL SYSTEM. THEY ARE GETTING READY TO CHANGE THAT. ONCE THAT HAPPENS THE PERIMETERS WILL CHANGE IN HOW THE REPORTING SYSTEM AND WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED OF THAT.

>> OKAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPENING

OF THE RICH HOUSE, CHIEF. >> AND A QUICK ONE, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE BEEN DOING AND WORKING HARD AT DOING THIS. THIS PICTURE HERE, I SMILE BECAUSE I TALK TO NICK AND JOHNNA EVERY YEAR AND I SEE TWO CROWN VICS, MAYBE EVEN THREE.

THERE IS GOOD NEWS COMING FORWARD, RIGHT?

>> YEAH. >> SO I BRING THAT UP WITH A

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. >> THIS IS WHY THE THANK YOU

WAS IN THERE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED, YOU KNOW -- YOU ARE LOOKING AND TALKING ABOUT THREE DISTRICT -- THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS POTENTIALLY.

THINGS COME TO MIND IMMEDIATELY FOR ME AND I START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF INTERNAL UPWARD MOVEMENT DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR OFFICER GROUP? WHAT KIND OF COMMAND STAFF NEEDS? WE DISCUSSED TODAY THE EMPLOYEE ADD ONS.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE GRANTS COMING FORWARD AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE AT THE HELM OF THIS DISCUSSION?

>> AS WE GROW AND CONTINUE TO GROW, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A DEPUTY CHIEF OVER THAT BUREAU.

OR I WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF SUPERVISION TO MONITOR IT AND TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE LEVELS AND THE STANDARDS WE ARE LOOKING FOR. THERE HAS TO BE THE MANAGEMENT PORTION THAT HAS TO BE THERE. AT PRESENT WE ARE WORKING WITH WHAT WE HAVE, BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT THE GROSS, IT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND IT IS PART OF THE REALITY OF LIFE. AND LIKE I SAID, WITH THE -- WITH THREE SEPARATE DISTRICTS BECAUSE I HEAR THE CONVERSATION AND I HEAR THE COMPLAINTS AND IT TOOK SO LONG FOR YOU TO RESPOND AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT TOOK A LONGTIME FOR US TO RESPOND AND THAT COULD BE BECAUSE IF THERE WAS A SHOOTING ALL OUR ATTENTION IS RIGHT THERE.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SHOOTING.

ANYTHING THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE FIRST. AND THEN WE DO THE OTHER PARTS. WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO SOLVE IT RIGHT THERE. OUR HOPE IS WE CAN DEVELOP THE EVENING SHIFT AND SPABD -- AND EXPAND TO A THIRD DISTRICT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY I AM ALSO -- WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS OF REPORTING. MEANING PEOPLE DO NOT NEED AN OFFICER TO RESPOND. WE CAN STREAM LINE OVER THE PHONE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL. I'M WATCHING THIS YEAR.

THE TRAFFIC AND THE TOURISM ASPECTS OF THE BEACH.

IT DOESN'T SLOW DOWN AND PEOPLE DIDN'T GO -- YOU WILL JUST NEED MORE PATROLS ON THE ISLAND TOO.

THERE'S JUST MORE PEOPLE FLEETING -- FLOATING AROUND.

>> SO THAT IS A PART OF THE PLAN.

WE WANT OUR OWNERS TO BE SAFE AND WE WANT THAT SECURITY.

UNFORTUNATELY AND THE DISTANCE PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CROSS THE BRIDGE.

HOPEFULLY IT IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF FACTORS WE ARE IN

CONSIDERATION OF. >> MADAM, MAYOR, I WANT TO COME ON THE BACK OF THAT AND MR. MIMMS MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE THAT. I TOO AM CONCERNED WITH AN ASPECT OF GROWTH. ONE THING I DID NOT SEE IS TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

MAYBE I MISSED IT IN A PLAN. I AM TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SPEED IN OUR CITY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

INCREASING SPEED I'M SEEING. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE HAD SOME

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SO I AM LOOKING TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WITH ADDITIONAL OFFICERS I'M SURE.

BUT TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS BECOMING AN EMERGING CHALLENGE FOR ME, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM LITERALLY LOOKING AT IT.

I'M LIKE, WE THRUST A LOT UPON OUR OFFICERS.

THANK YOU. THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

IT IS SOMETHING CONCERNING TO ME AND AS WE GROW AS A CITY I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE WILL DEVELOP SOME PLANS TO DEAL

WITH IT. >> THAT IS A PART OF THE PLAN. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TRACK SQUAD. THAT'S WHY THE CSO'S DOING -- FREEING OFFICERS UP. SO WHEN WE HAVE THE PARTICULAR ISSUES THEY CAN DEVELOP AND THEY CAN GO AND HANDLE THOSE TYPES OF CALLS. BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE CALL VOLUME SO HIGH THAT IS HARD TO PULL AND HAVE -- AND I WOULD LOVE TO SAY I CAN PUT YOU TOGETHER A TRAFFIC SQUAD.

WITH THE CALL VOLUME BE WHAT IT IS, I HAVE TO FOCUS ON AND I AM VERY MUCH AWARE OF SOME OF THE AREAS YOU HAVE WHAT IS IDENTIFIED TO ME AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT.

MORE THAN LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE KOLL -- CALL VOLUME.

>> WE HAVE -- WE HAVE GREAT EQUIPMENT AND A NUMBER OF OUR THINGS ARE OUTDATED. WE HAVE TO DO THAT AS WELL.

WE WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THEM APPROPRIATELY AS WELL.

>> OKAY. >> AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE RELATES TO THIS PICTURE IN THE BACKGROUND.

THERE IS A NICE, LARGE BUILDING.

HOW IS THE BUILDING FUNCTIONING FOR THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE. MIGRAINE GRAIN -- MY BRAIN

GOES THERE IMMEDIATELY. >> THE BUILDING -- WE HAVE OUT GROWN THIS BUILDING QUITE HONESTLY.

WHEN THEY DID IS RUN THE PIPING AND STUFF.

IT IS A LOT OF THINGS. AND WE ARE TRYING TO MANAGE IT. AND WE HAVE ALSO -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACING.

THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WE ASK FOR THE TOP FLOOR OF THE COURT. AND IT WAS THERE I WAS GOING TO MOVE TO THE TRAINING AREA AND WE MAKE THE BUILDING AND THERE IS A FEAR FACTOR THERE. WE CAN USE THE MAIN SECOND FLOOR BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT INSIDE OF THE LINCOLN PARK AREA. MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE EASIER OR LOOK FORWARD TO GOING THERE. THAT'S WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO THE RICH HOUSE, I PLAN TO WORK ON THE RICH HOUSE SOUTH. IT WILL BE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF FORT PIERCE. THAT'S WHERE I AM DEALING WITH MY HATIAN AND HISPANIC POPULATION.

A LOT WILL NOT GO OUCH -- GO OUT TO THE 2304 AND WE ARE STRIAING TO -- TRYING TO EXPAND THAT.

>> WITH THAT COMES MAINTENANCE.

>> HOWEVER THAT GETS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE

COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. >> IT IS A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

THEY ARE WORKING WELL WITH US AND THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THAT ASPECT. THEY HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS FOR US AND I AM PROUD TO HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH

THEM. >> COMMISSIONERS, I STILL WORRY ABOUT WHAT I BROUGHT UP. I CAME TO THE FACILITY IN THE

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SORRY. IRMA.

THE CONDITIONS, COMMISSIONER, IT WAS TOUGH.

THEY GO TO A TWO-SHIP PROGRAM AND 12-HOUR SHIFTS.

YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE BRACING -- THE OPERATIONS OUT OF THIS BUILDING AND FEED EVERYONE.

THEY ARE LAYING ON COTS AND LAYING ON SLEEPING BAGS AND AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES. TRULY I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED A TRUE DISASTER EMERGENCY.

I AM NOT PLAYING LIGHTLY WITH WHAT CAME TO THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT DORIAN THAT WAS TRYING TO COME AT US AND MICHAEL THAT HIT THE PANHANDLE, WE ARE GOING TO BE IN SOME SERIOUS SITUATIONS WITH JUST KEEPING PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE FOREFRONT. WE REALLY ARE GONNA HAVE TO FOCUS IN. I HEAR A LITTLE ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING. IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO THERE AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT, JUST LET US KNOW. THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SYSTEMS LIKE THAT CAN'T FAIL. IT CHANGES THEIR OPERATION OR IT REMOVES THEM FROM THE BUILDING.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CONVERSATION AND WHAT WE DO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGETING CYCLE.

AND THEN OF COURSE JUST PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, LIKE THE CHIEF IS ASKING FOR. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT, CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

IT IS CRITICAL AND YOU HAVE TO GROW ALONG WITH THE CITY'S

GROWTH. >> WE TRY.

WE TRY. I DO HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT. MY OFFICERS ARE IN DEEP APPRECIATION. YOU ALLOWED THEM -- YOU PAID THEM AN APPROPRIATE WAGE AND THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST STRIFES.

IF THE OFFICERS DON'T TELL YOU, I HEAR HOW MUCH THEY

APPRECIATE IT. >> AND THEY LIKE THE -- THEY LIKED HAVING A NEW VEHICLE. THAT'S WHERE THEY SPEND A LOT

OF TIME. >> IT IS THEIR OFFICE.

>> WELL, WE APPRECIATE WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMET HAS DONE FOR THE CITY. IT HAS CERTAINLY SHOWN US THAT IT STEPPED UP AND HELPED US WITH THE CRIME REDUCTION AND THE OVERALL EXCELLENCE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAKES ME VERY PROUD PERSONALLY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, CAN WE BEND BACK REAL QUICK FOR THE GOLF COURSE OVERVIEW THAT WE POSTPONED? WE WILL HAVE DANNY AND JEN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT ADMINISTRATIVE AREA OF THE GOLF COURSE AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING

PLANNED? >> IT'S OKAY.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I THINK THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT RENDERINGS.

THERE ARE TWO AND THEN THIS IS IN COLOR.

THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE CLUBHOUSE.

I DON'T THINK WE WENT INTO DETAIL THE LAST TIME.

WE JUST SHOWED THE OVERALL SITE PLAN WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. THAT THAT WAS A MR. MIMMS'

IDEA. >> NO, IT WAS A CITIZENS

IDEA. >> SO HERE IS -- SO HERE ARE THE RENDERINGS. THIS WAS DONE BY NC CONSULTANTS. THIS FIRM IS OUT OF JUPITER AND THEY ARE ONE OF THE CONTRACTS THE CITY HAS FOR PLANNING. THESE ARE THE RENDERINGS.

THIS WAS PART OF THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT.

>> THE RENDERING IN THE TOP LEFT, THAT IS SHOWING IT FROM BASICALLY THE 10TH TEE OF THE GOLF COURSE BACK TOWARD ALDI I GUESS ON THE CORNER OF THIRD AND OHIO RIGHT THERE.

THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WOULD BE THERE ON THE RIGHT BETWEEN THE PARKING AREA AND THE CURRENT DRIVING RANGE, PRACTICE FACILITY. THERE IS A PARKING AREA IN BETWEEN. SO WHEN SOMEBODY ENTERED THE PARKING LOT FROM THE THIRD STREET SIDE RIGHT THERE, SIDE BY SIDE WITH ALDI YOU COULD PARK RIGHT THERE AND WALK TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS OR WALK TO THE SOUTH AND INTO THE GOLF SHOP CLUBHOUSE AREA. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT ONE? THE TWO BUILDINGS, AND IT IS SHOWN HERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT , THAT OVERALL SOUTHWEST AERIAL VIEW.

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IT WOULD FACE OUT EAST TOWARD THE POND ON 9.

AND THAT BUILDING TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT IMAGE, THEY WOULD FORM AN L SO WOULD BE NICE AND CON -- CONCISE AND TIGHT.

WE ARE LOOKING WHERE THE -- WHERE IT WOULD BE A SHELL.

NOT A HUGE EXPENSE, BUT IT WOULD MAKE EVERYTHING NICE AND TIGHT AND CON -- CONCISE. THE TWO BUILDINGS TOTAL, WE ARE LOOKING AT 40 BY 100 JUST TO GIVE A SIZE EXAMPLE.

THE CLUBHOUSE IS 40 BY 100 AS WELL.

THE CLUBHOUSE WOULD BE 40 BY 80 THOUGH UNDER AIR.

THE REMAINING 20 FEET OUT THE FRONT ON THE EAST SIDE WOULD BE COVERED, LIKE A PATIO-COVERED AREA.

THERE WOULD BE SEATING OUT THERE FOR 30 TO 40.

YOU COULD PULL IN FRONT THERE IF YOU WERE GOING FROM THE 9TH HOLE TO THE 10TH HOLE AND THERE WOULD BE A PASS THROUGH TAKEOUT, BAR AREA. IF YOU ARE FAMILIR WITH THE HOTEL OUT AT THE JETTY WHERE YOU CAN STAND AT THE BAR THERE AND THE BAR TENDER IS INSIDE AND A PASS THROUGH-TYPE WINDOW AND THEY WILL WORK BEHIND THE BAR AS WELL.

THE CLUBHOUSE BUILDING WOULD BE 3200 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL.

NOT BIG. IT IS ADEQUATE ENOUGH WHERE WE CAN HOLD AN OUTING WITH NO PROBLEM, BUT NOT WHERE IT WILL ADD A HUGE MAINTENANCE. WE WOULD ADD IT IN HOUSE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. THE ONLY POTENTIAL WOULD BE A COOK OF SOME SORT AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ADDITION FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD WITH A SMALLER BUILDING OF THAT SIZE.

IT REALLY WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WE DO FROM A DAY-TO-DAY STANDPOINT THAT WE DO EVERY DAY RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU DID SEE -- THERE WILL BE A LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AND I WANT TO ADD BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER WITH REGARD TO THE TRAIL ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE GOLF COURSE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN INCORPORATED YET.

THE PLANS ARE TO IN INCORP -- INCORPORATE TO THE SITE PLAN.

>> MADAM MAYOR, LOOKING AT THE SITE OVERALL IT IS AT THE

THIRD OF THE PAGE, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> ARE YOU PUTTING A FACADE IMPROVEMENT? YOU SAID A METAL BUILDING, 40 BY -- WHATEVER.

>> THEY WOULD ROUGHLY BOTH BE 40 BY 100.

>> SO THERE WOULD BE A FACADE IMPROVEMENT SO IT IS NOT JUST

AN OPEN -- IS IT FOUR WALLS? >> NO.

IT WOULD BE TOTALLY ENCLOSED AND ROLL UP DOOR IN FRONT AND BACK. THERE WOULD BE SECURITY.

IT WOULDN'T BE OPEN. IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A POLE BARN. IT WOULD BE ENCLOSED.

>> ALL RIGHT. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO KEEP IT MORE OPEN ON THE EAST IT SEEMS LIKE, BUT MAYBE NOT.

>> FROM A SECURITY TANNED POINT -- FROM THE SECURITY

STANDPOINT MORE SECURE. >> NOT JUST SECURITY, BUT FOUR WALLS PUTS YOU INTO DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S GOOD. >> SO AS FAR AS FROM AN EXPENSE STANDPOINT, GATHERING SOME OF THOSE NOW.

CURRENTLY THE INTERIOR EXPENSES, THOSE ARE RELATIVELY EASY TO FIGURE OUT AT THIS POINT.

FURNITURE, TV'S EQUIPMENT, RESTAURANT EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S SIMPLE. THE CONCRETE LANDSCAPING AND WE ARE WAITING ON A QUOTE AND AS YOU KNOW EVERYTHING HAS GONE UM EXPONENTIALLY WITH LUMBER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

NOT THAT THERE WAS LUMBER INVOLVED HERE, BUT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THE INSIDE OF THE CLUBHOUSE BUILDING AND FINISH THAT FROM A DRYWALL, PAINT, FLOOR -- FLOORING.

SOME OF THAT WE DO IN HOUSE, BUT TO TRY TO GET THE QUOTES BACK FROM THEM TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT INCREASED WHEN WE RECEIVED THE FIRST QUOTE EIGHT MONTHS AGO, WHEN I GET THOSE

NUMBER I WILL PROVIDE THEM. >> STEEL HAS GONE UP UH -- A LOT AND THERE IS AN EIGHT TO 10-MONTH DELAY IN STEEL MANUFACTURING. IT IS BAD.

>> ARE WE PROCEEDING WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURTS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET?

>> IT IS NOT IN THE BUDGET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID TALK ABOUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.

THE ANSWER IS YES. >> NOT THE STRUCTURE OR ANYTHING. WE ARE DOING IT IN STAGES,

RIGHT? >> BEFORE THE STRUCTURE IS

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MOVE FORWARD. >> AND MADAM MAYOR, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE AND THE GOLF -- GOLF CART IS OVER

4,000. >> THEY WILL BOTH BE 40 BY

100. >> SO THIS WILL COME TO YOU

ALL FOR APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT.

>> MOVING ON. THE NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FROM

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

THE PUBLIC. >> OKAY.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND WILL YOU GIVE A BUZZER?

>> YES. >> THREE MINUTES.

YOU WILL GET THE WARNING. >> MICHELLE LONGARZO, SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

I WENT TO DO MY BTR, AND THANK YOU MR. MIMMS, FOR FIXING THAT. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, FOR BOTH MY UNITS IT COSTS ALMOST $89 AND IT WAS $44.71 PER UNIT.

SO FOR D AND FOR L INDIVIDUALLY.

AND I WOULD TAKE CARE OF MY FRIENDS BTR WHO ARE OUT OF THE STATE AND HIS IS $5. WHY IS HIS $5 AND OURS IS $44.71? HE HAS A 31-DAY PER.

PERMIT. INTERESTING.

FOR US THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS YOU TREAT US COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND HIGHLY PREJ -- PE -- PREJUDICIOUS.

YOU HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THE TASK FORCE WITH US.

WE HAVE ALL COME TO THE TABLE ASKING TO BE A PART OF THE TASK FORCE, IGNORED US, ET CETERA AND BROKE SUNSHINE LAW. FOR WHAT? YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. WHAT'S FAIR FOR ONE IS FAIR FOR THE OTHER. YOU HAVE OCEAN BEING TREATED ONE WAY AND SEA WAY BEING TREATED ANOTHER AND THE REST OF US ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE AND PAY ALMOST $1300 TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS 120 DAYS.

AND LET'S JUST PUT ON THE RECORD AS WELL THAT THE CITY DOESN'T DO THIS. ON TOP OF IT, MY CITY, BTR, IS $9.05. THAT INCLUDES D, L AND THE FUTURE OF M UNDER THE DVPR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS CANNOT TREAT ONE PERSON COMPLETELY EQUAL TO THE OTHER WHEN IT COMES TO THESE RENTALS.

YOU HAVE LONG-TERM RENTERS THAT ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING.

THEY ARE NOT PAYING ANY TAX. THEY ARE NOT PAYING A BTR, AND THERE IS NO REGULATORY. YOU ARE TRYING TO OVERREGULAR -- OVERREGULATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND NOT ONLY OVERREGULATE, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH US, THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS AREA.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LET'S MOVE ON.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CITY COMMISSION BOARDS AND

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

COMMITTEE UPDATES. >> COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU

LIKE TO START? >> ALL MINE ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN STARTING TOMORROW. I THINK RETIREMENT DIDN'T MEET LAST MONTH, AND I AM TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING SO HARD AT THE CITY THAT I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED WITH MY COMMITTEE. I PROMISE TO HAVE AN ILLUSTRIOUS LIST OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

>> NO TDC? >> NO TDC.

I AM GOING TO THE FMPA COMING UP.

WE HAVE A RETIREMENT THIS WEEK AND WE HAVE A PARKING COMMITTEE THIS WEEK. EVERYTHING IS STARTING TO HAPPEN NOW. I WILL BE READY NEXT TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON? >> SAME, FIRE BOARDS COMING UP AND TPO COMING UP. LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET, WE DID MEET. THINGS ARE COMING ALONG THERE RELATIVELY WELL. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROJECT THAT'S WE ARE LOOKING AT IN DISCUSSION.

OVERALL GENERALLY THAT ORGANIZATION HAS FUNCTIONED WELL. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND

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>> THE LAST COMMUNICATION WAS A LET TORE LINCOLN -- LETTER TO LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET SAYING YOU TAKE THE TIME OR VACATE THE PREMISES. I DON'T KNOW.

>> IT WAS RECEIVED AND IT WAS DISCUSSED AND THEN MOVING FORWARD OR WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> J.JOHNSON?

>> NOT MUCH, COMMISSIONERS OTHER THAN A SPECTACULAR FOURTH OF JULY AND WEEKEND CELEBRATION.

UNFORTUNATELY I HAD TO CANCEL ON FRIDAY JULY 2ND.

>> IT RAINED? >> WELL YOU HAVE TO CANCEL IN ADVANCE AND THEN OF COURSE THE WEATHER DOESN'T SHOW UP.

THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE. JULY 4TH WAS AWESOME.

IT WENT OVER WELL AND I THINK DOWNTOWN WAS HAPPY AGAIN.

IT WAS GOOD. >> QUESTION FOR YOU.

THEY CANCELED THE FRIDAY FEST AND SOMETIMES DID IT THE NEXT WEEK. WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT?

>> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WHOLE LICENSING.

IT IS DIFFERENT NOW. >> OKAY.

>> NOW THERE IS ANOTHER AGENCY THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR THE APPROVAL AND FOR -- I FORGET WHICH PART OF THE -- WHICH PART THE CITY PLAYS IN THAT.

IT IS DOWN TO THE WEST PALM BEACH OFFICE.

THERE IS NO LOCAL AGENT ANYMORE THAT WE ARE REFERRED TO. THE POSTPONING IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPLICATION PROCESS.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW. >> OH YEAH.

AND IT IS A HARDSHIP, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

>> I HAD TO HEAR ABOUT THAT FROM ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS

WHO ALSO LIVES WITH ME. >> YEAH.

IT IS A TOUGH CALL. WHAT HAPPENS IS THE VENDORS CAN'T -- THE VENDORS CAN'T CHANGE.

AND SO THEN THEY END UP CHARGING MAIN STREET WHICH OBVIOUSLY GOES NEGATIVE IF NO ONE SHOWS UP.

THERE IS A TIME CUTOFF. >> THE WEATHER CALLED AND THEN

IT TURNED OUT ALL RIGHT? >> IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT.

I SHOULDN'T SAY BEAUTIFUL. IT WAS OVERCAST.

>> IT WAS REALLY SCARY LOOKING.

>> IT WAS, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR FRIDAY FEST.

NOTHING TO REPORT BECAUSE THE MONTH IS BEGINNING AND THERE ARE MEETINGS COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL BE QUICK.

I AM NOW ON THE TREASURE COAST SCENIC HIGHWAY THAT YOU GAVE TO ME, COMMISSIONER. WE FINALLY HAD OUR FIRST MEETING. I GOT ELECTED CHAIRMAN.

I'M LAKE, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING HERE.

IT IS REALLY KIND OF AN INTERESTING -- IT IS A TOURIST PROMOTIONAL TOOL THAT I HOPE THAT THE TDC TAKES UP.

IT WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 16TH AN -- ANNIVERSARY IN NOVEMBER. IT IS ALL OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND OVER THE BRIDGE, SOUTH BRIDGE AND DOWN TO JENSON BEACH ON THE ISLAND AND THEN OVER THE NORTH BRIDGE AND DOWN TO AVALON STATE PARK ON NORTH BRIDGE.

IT IS ABOUT PROMOTING THAT WHOLE PART AS SCENIC HIGHWAY.

AND SO WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER AN APP THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW -- DRIVE ALONG AND FOLLOW AND LOOK AT INTERESTING POINTS AND ALSO HISTORIC POINTS AND HISTORIC

RESTAURANTS. >> WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT

THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. >> TWO YEARS AGO?

YEAH THEY MET FOR A LONGTIME. >> I AM GLAD THEY ARE MOVING

ALONG. >> SHE HAD MADE SOME PROGRESS, BUT IT IS STILL NOT READY TO COME OUT.

AT ANY RATE, SO THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.

AND THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE HAVE A POLICY COMMITTEE THIS FRIDAY AND I AM ON THE TAXATION FINANCE AND PERSONNEL COMMITTEE WHICH IS -- WHICH I PREFER THEY WOULD USE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS WILL DO. AND THE FIRE BOARD, WE ARE MEETING TOMORROW. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER 1234* SHALL WE ADJOURN? LET'S MOVE OUT OF THE CHAMBERS.

IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ANYBODY, YOU CAN TALK TO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.