[a. Letter from Scott Coats expressing his sincere gratitude to acting Sergeant John Fasanello and Officer Clifford Gray for their assistance and information during a difficult and emotional time. ]

>> HE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM SCOTT COOK'S EXPRESSING HIS SINCERE GRATITUDE TO ACTING SERGEANT JOHN CASANOVA AND OFFICER CHRIS CLIFFORD GRAY FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE DURING A VERY DIFFICULT AND EMOTIONAL TIME. WE HAD NO INCENTIVE FOR COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC SO WE'LL

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

MOVE TO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

>> ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM TO THE CITY COMMISSION ASPECT OF THE AGENDA LATER ON THIS EVENING. I THINK IT WOULD BE 13 F IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IT'S REGARDING THE MEMO FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

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OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING SITTING BOARD MEMBER THAT WE HAVE ON ONE OF OUR

FOURTH. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES?

>> IS NOT CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A MOTION. >> AND MOVED TO APPROVE THE

AGENDA. >> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROW PLEASE.

[a. Added: Representative Dana Trabulsy Update on 2021 Legislative Session]

SEES UPDATE ON THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. >> YOU HAVE ANY LEAD INTO

THIS? >> I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE PRIVILEGED ENOUGHTO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TALK TO ME ON SEPARATE ISSUES AND SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME TIME IN HER SCHEDULE TO BE BEFORE US THIS EVENINGS I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'M EXCITED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES WITH YOU.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS AND I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO HAVE A COLLECTIVE ONE AS WELL. MAYOR HUDSON I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO CONGRATULATING YOU

FOR YOUR HOME RULE. >> I'M STILL ON PROBATION I GUESS.

>> I JUST HAVE TO SAY YOU DON'T NEED A DAY FOR THAT. YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE HOME

ROW CLEAN THE WHOLE YEAR THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR IN SESSION. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ARTIE HAD AN UPDATE FROM YOUR LEGISLATION LIAISON NICOLE FOGARTY. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AS WELL ON THIS.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON TOP OF THAT AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THIS PAST YEAR. ONE IS YES IT WAS A DIFFERENT YEAR IN THE FLORIDA HOUSE. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY FOR ME BECAUSE IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR AND A NEW NO DIFFERENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IT WAS KIND OF NICE BUT THE HOLES WERE QUIET. I GOT TO LEARN WHERE THE BATHROOMS WHERE BY MYSELF.

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BUSIER SESSION WITH THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE AND HOPEFULLY SEEING YOU IN TALLAHASSEE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WERE 100% ASSESSABLE AS WAS THE REST OF FLORIDA AND THE NATION THE RESUME AND PHONE CALLS AND WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE PERMISSION WHEN LOBBYIST OR FOLKS FROM OUR AREA CAME DOWN TO VISIT. THERE WAS COMPLETE ACCESSIBILITY.

IT WAS JUST IN A DIFFERENT FASHION. IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THEY WERE SHUT DOWN. WE HAD TO GO THREE BLOCKS OVER TO SEE THEM AND YOU ARE LUCKY IF YOU DID. THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WAS COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE.

WHEN I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY BROUGHT BACK ALMOST $191 MILLION. SOME PROJECTS THAT I WORKED ON SPECIFICALLY WAS $900,000. THROUGH FPU A FOR LOWER INCOMES TO HER INFRASTRUCTURE.

I'M SUPER PROUD TO BRING DOWN $10.6 MILLION TO INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE TO COMPLETE THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TRAINING COMPLEX AND $1.3 MILLION FOR GUARDIAN FUTURES WRAPAROUND SERVICES. THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO THE 19TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT BECAUSE THAT HAS THE MISSING LINK WITH CHILDREN WHO COME IN WHO ARE TRAUMATIZED AND NOW THEY ONLY HAVE TO TELL THEIR STORY IN ONE PLACE RATHER THAN SEVERAL TIMES OVER AND OVER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ON THE RECORD CONGRATULATE DEBBIE BUTLER FOR SPEARHEADING GUARDIANS FOR NEW FUTURES AND DOING SUCH AN AMAZING JOB FOR OUR CHILDREN. THE FLORIDA LEGISLATOR ALSO ALLOCATED $30 MILLION FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL PROJECT GRANTS.

SENATOR HARRELL, MYSELF ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE TO HELP THE GRANT PROCESS MOVE ALONG SO THAT WE CAN RECEIVE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS IN ORDER TO BUILD A HIGHWAY MUSEUM IN FORT PIERCE. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO DO THAT AND GET THAT PROCESS ROLLING.

CURRENTLY ALSO POINTED TO THE FLORIDA COUNCIL ON SOCIAL STATUS FOR BLACK MEN AND BOYS.

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AM PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT. WE ARE WORKING ON GREAT INITIATIVES AND WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING LAST WEEK DIGGING RIGHT IN WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY MEN AND BOYS AND HELP BRIDGE THE GAPS AND OPENED UP MENTORSHIP POSSIBILITIES. WE REALLY CREATE A GOOD LINE OF COMMUNICATION. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HOME RULE AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. GOING FORWARD IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO EXPRESS TO YOU HOW IMPORTANT GOOD DIALOGUE IS.

FOR ME THIS IS IN A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE ON WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BUT REALLY IT'S RAMPING UP FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE START COMMITTING WEEKS IN SEPTEMBER WHICH IS HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HEARD FROM YOUR MEETING ON JUNE 14.

I WISH WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHILE I WAS IN SESSION.

SOME OF THAT COULD'VE BEEN BECAUSE OF CORONAVIRUS IN THE WAY THAT WE WERE COMMUNICATING BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT MY PHONE NUMBER IS FROM A BUSINESS CARD.

THAT IS MY CELL PHONE NUMBER. I THINK YOU HAVE MY NUMBER ANYWAY AS CONSTITUENTS FEEL FREE TO CALL ME ANYTIME. I AM ACCESSIBLE AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO HEAR FROM YOU AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS OF PARTICULAR CONCERN I WANT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AHEAD OF TIME.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE EXACT POINT THAT YOU WANT TO BE BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE PALATABLE THAT WE CAN AGREE ON.

I CAN THINK OF ONE INSTANCE WHICH WAS THE SEAPORT PREEMPTION.

I WAS NOT GOING TO VOTE BUT I WAS NOT GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE PREEMPTION UNTIL WE TOOK FORT PIERCE OFF THE TABLE. I WORKED REALLY HARD WITH REPRESENTATIVE ROTH TO GET THAT AMENDMENT AND SO THAT FORT PIERCE COULD BE TAKEN OFF OF THAT.

THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN HAVE SO THAT I COULD WORK HARDER FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE MY CONSTITUENTS AND THIS IS MY HOME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT I'M WORKING HARD FOR YOU AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> FAIR ENOUGH. I THINK THAT WAS WELL SAID AND I'M GLAD.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SALES TAX FAIRNESS SPELL THAT WAS A BIG ONE FOR THE CITIES.

AND ALSO FOR THE JOHN BELL. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. THERE'S A FEW OTHER BILLS THAT ARE TO BE PROBLEMS FOR CITIES IN THE FUTURE SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT THE ANONYMOUS CODE ENFORCEMENT PROHIBITION. IT'S PROBLEMATIC AND A FEW OTHERS BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT

GOING FORWARD AND NOT ABOUT THE PAST. >> I THINK IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT I COULD SAY ABOUT THE FORTIS LEGISLATOR THAT I'VE LEARNED SO FAR IS THAT WE CAN BE VERY REFLECTIVE. IF WE NEED TO GO BACK AND PRE-EXAMINE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPEN THOSE BOOKS UP AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

>> OR TWEAK IT A BIT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS QUESTION THE.

>> THANK YOU SEDATIVE FOR SHARING YOUR COMMON I AM RECEIVING THE MODEL.

OUT ALSO CHALLENGE AND SAY YOU CHALLENGED US. REACH TO US AS WELL.

THINGS HAPPEN IN FORT PIERCE RIGHT NOW SOMETIMES WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE HAVE NO SAY SO THAT THE CONSTITUENTS YOU AND WE SOMETIMES OUR CONDUIT OF THAT. THEY TELL US THEIR CONCERNS AND I'VE ENCOURAGED THEM TO REACH OUT TO YOU TO SHARE THOSE VOICES AS WELL.

I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SOME OF MY FRUSTRATIONS AND CHALLENGES AND SO I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND REPRESENT THIS.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THE BANNER AND CHALLENGES OF REPRESENTING FORT PIERCE URATE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GO FORWARD AND MAYBE AS THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST TIME COMING BEFORE US WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. EVEN DURING THE SESSION AS AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON. I PLAN ON COMING TO TALLAHASSEE AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU. ACTUALLY TRACK CERTAIN BILLS THAT ARE COMING TO THE LEGISLATOR AND I THINK IT WILL IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. AS WE GO FORWARD I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP AND DIALOGUE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT BUT THERE HAS TO BE A CONVERSATION AND THANK YOU FOR

STARTING UP WITH US. >> I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'VE ENJOYED OUR CONVERSATIONS.

I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU. I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK ANYTIME YOU'LL HAVE ME.

>> HE WILL SEE TO THAT. >> I DO TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO ANYONE IS LISTENING AND ANYONE

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THAT HERE. PLEASE REACH OUT. >> I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT. I'M HAUNTED BY ONE THING. YOU HAVE CALLED ME MORE THAN I HAVE CALLED YOU. NORMALLY I'M BADGERING EVERYBODY BUT I DO APPRECIATE AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS LOUDLY FOR YOUR CONCERN AND YOURN CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE TALKED ABOUT SOME SENSITIVE ISSUES WHEN YOU CALL ME BACK AND I ARE LISTENING TO WHAT I TELL YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND FOR WHAT YOU DO.

WE KNOW WHAT SERVICE IN GOVERNMENT CAN BE LIKE. IT TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON AND AGAIN I DO APPRECIATE THE BADGERING. YOU CAN BADGER ME ANYTIME YOU

WANT. >> ELSE CAN I SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR.

WE CAN CALL TOM ANYTIME. >> I GAVE A LIST OF ITEMS AND DISCUSSIONS UNREPRESENTATIVE SHE SET ASIDE EVERYTHING? SHE SAID IS IN THERE GOING TO BE MORE? I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND I TRIED TO GO IN WITH AN OPEN MIND AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF BEING IN TALLAHASSEE AND NOT KEEPING THE BLINDERS ON PURCHASED FORT PIERCE EVEN THOUGH FORT PIERCE IS NUMBER ONE IN MY THOUGHTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME BILLS THAT MOVES THROUGH AND ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGING FOR US. YOU'VE HEARD THE LOUD AND CLEAR WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEM. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT IN GIVING US THE UPDATING CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE SOME OF CONVERSATION X WE WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE ANY BUDGET INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT PEOPLE IN THE LEGISLATOR DON'T HAVE A GRASP ON OUR MUNICIPAL BUDGETS. WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES SO SOMETIMES WE COULD SPEND SOME TIME SO THAT YOU COULD KIND OF SEE HOW IT

HAPPENS AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET. >> I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THE MORE THAT I CAN GO ON TO BETTER CONSERVE YOU AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID TO ME I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AS WELL. IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY BUT IT IS A LABOR OF LOVE AND WE.

TRAVELED BACK AND FORTH TO TALLAHASSEE. AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE TO DO

THAT. >> MET AMERICAN ASK A QUESTION? WELL YOU HAVE A MOMENT HERE TO SHARE IT IS ANYTHING THAT WAS HELPFUL THAT YOU MAY GO FORWARD TO GIVE US AN INSIGHT INTO THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US.

>> FOR ME PERSONALLY THERE ARE TWO THINGS I'M WORKING ON THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO BILLS THAT I PUT FORTH LAST YEAR THAT DID NOT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.

I WILL TELL YOU GOING TO THE SESSION THAT YOU GO INTO YOUR FIRST SESSION I'M SURE THAT YOU CAN RELATE TO THIS. YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL CHANGE THE WORLD IN ONE FELL SWOOP AND YOU REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S HUMBLING BUT IT ALSO MAKES YOU WORK A LITTLE HARDER AND DID A LITTLE DEEPER. TWO THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME GOING INTO THE NEXT SESSION I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE SPEAKER THE HOUSE HE WILL PRETTY MUCH LAY OUT OUR PLAN IN SEPTEMBER BUT ONE WOULD BE LEVEL II BACKGROUND SCREENING FOR SUMMER CAMPS. IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN OR NO CHILDREN AND THEIR ATTENDING CAMP OR SPECIFICALLY A SUMMER CAMP NECESSARY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE LEVEL II BACKGROUND SCREENING. I THINK THAT THAT'S A HUGE DISPARITY TO OUR CHILDREN SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE CRAWLED THIS YEAR. I'M EXCITED TO WORK ALONGSIDE HER WITH THAT.

SECONDLY WOULD BE IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT IT WOULD BRING THE FILM AND GIVE US A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AS FAR AS THE INDUSTRY. OTHER STATES HAVE INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO FILM SO THESE FEATURE FILMS WITH NETFLIX AND WHO THEY ARE BEING FILMED ANOTHER STATE. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE INCENTIVES HERE.

WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE. AS AN INCENTIVE OUR LEADERSHIP DOES NOT FEEL THAT IT IS THE

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RIGHT THING TO DO. I'VE REWRITTEN IT SO THAT IT'S NOT AN INCENTIVE BUT RATHER A REPEAT TO THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE AREA ESPECIALLY OUR RURAL AREAS AND COASTAL COMMUNITIES EMPLOYING PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING ARE COLLEGES THAT OFFER FILM AND IMPLYING OTHER PEOPLE IN AREAS PUTTING HEADS IN BED THEY WILL HAVE TO SHOW MEASURE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEIR REBATE RATHER THAN SITTING ON THE FRONT END. I'M WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET THAT PUSHED THROUGH. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT THIS YEAR BUT I'M GONNA

KEEP RUNNING IT UNTIL I CAN RUN NO FURTHER. >> GOOD FOR YOU BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES MORE THAN ONE SESSION TO GET SOMETHING PASSED.

THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS DISCUSSED THAT BILL BEFORE. REQUIRES FUNDING OF COURSE.

THE CONCERN WAS THE GOBBLE UP OF THE MONEY WOULD BE TO SAME. ONCE IT'S FUNDED THE MONEY WILL

GO FOR DISNEY THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. >> THE INTENT IS FOR IT NOT TO

GO TO DISNEY. >> THAT'S FUN AND I'M INTERESTED IN.

GOOD FOR YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND TALKING ABOUT A REBATE INSTEAD OF

SENDING IT UP FRONT. >> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR FORT PIERCE AND YOUR

HARD WORK. >> THANK YOU THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS THE FLORIDA

[b. Florida Municipal Power Agency (FMPA) Update by Jacob Williams, General Manager and CEO]

MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY UPDATE. MISTER MIMS. >> ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO HAVE

OUR COMMISSIONER PURPLE INTRODUCE THIS. >> AS A MEMBER OF OUR ADVISORY COUNCIL IT IS IMPORTANT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO BRING OUR ELECTRIC PROVIDER AND TEAMMATES HERE TO GIVE SOMEONE OF AN UPDATE SO THAT WE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE GOING. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT STORY WE WILL HEAR TODAY THAT FORT PIERCE IS DEFINITELY A BIG PART OF IT.

I HAVE JACOB WILLIAMS THE CEO OF FM PA HERE TODAY. I KNOW MIKE MCCAIN IS IN THE OFAUDIENCE AND SEASON IS HERE. WELCOME TO FORT PIERCE.

>> MAN: WHAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAN-TO-MAN COUNCIL. IT WAS LISTED A STORY IS FM PA BUT IT'S NOT A STORY. IT'S A STORY ABOUT FPU A. WE ARE WHOLESALE SUPPLIER.

I MENTION A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR STORY BUT FRANKLY IT COMES DOWN TO HOW IT AFFECTS THE RESIDENCE HERE AND THE VALUE THAT THEY BRING TO THE UTILITY.

NOW IN GOING FORWARD YOU HAVE A GREAT STORY AND YOU HAVE A STORY THAT YOU CAN HOPEFULLY KEEP TELLING. WITH THAT SEASON IF WE CAN JUMP THROUGH.

REAL QUICK WHO IS FM PA BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOW FM PA IS OWNED BY 31 MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ON THE MAP. OF WHICH FORT PIERCE IS A MEMBER.

WE PROVIDE 12% OF ELECTRICITY TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO THE MEMBER CITIES AND IT'S ABOUT 2.6 MILLION FLIRTY AND. 24 OF THE 31 MUNICIPAL'S SHOWN HERE GEPHARDT OR THAT THEIR POWER AND FORT PIERCE GETS THEIR POWER FROM FM. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT. FMP IS GENERATION FLEET IS 90% OF WHAT WE PRODUCE ENOUGH NATURAL GAS SPACE. 13% DECLINING CALL 5% THE NUCLEAR PLANT AND A GROWING AMOUNT THAT IS COMING OFF OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES FOR 1%. OBVIOUSLY THE TWO BIG PLANS ARE THE CANINE FACILITY THAT'S OPERATED IN THE TREASURE COAST FACILITY THAT IS OPERATING HERE. IT PROVIDES ABOUT A THIRD OF ELECTRICITY OVERALL.

WE WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN A MOMENT. FMP IS KIND OF THE GOALS LONG-TERM GOALS NUMBER ONE. TO PROVIDE LOW-COST ELECTRICITY TO A MEMBER CITIES IN THE STATE BELOW $70. WE WILL SHINE A MINUTE WHERE THAT'S IMPORTANT BUT THAT'S OUR PICKLE OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS. THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS IS

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MOVING UP BUT THE SECOND IS TO WORK WITH OUR MEMBER CITIES TO PROVIDE RELIABLE SERVICES FOR CUSTOMERS. 60 MINUTES IS THE AVERAGE SIGN THAT WAS LEFT TO SEE IN THE STATE AS A WHOLE. THE LAST GOAL IS TO REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS BY 50% FROM 2005 LEVELS BY 2027. WITHOUT LET'S TALK ABOUT COST. I REMEMBER MY VERY FIRST MEETING FIVE YEARS AGO CITY. IT WAS RIGHT HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON EATS AFFORDABLE ELECTRICITY IN FLORIDA IF YOU LOOK AT THE MUNICIPAL'S IN PARTICULAR AND THE AVERAGE INCOME IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS ABOUT 10% BELOW THE US AFTER.

THE 31 THAT WE MENTIONED OUR AVERAGE INCOME IS ANOTHER 10% BELOW THE FLORIDA AVERAGE AND THE MUSIC AT FORT PIERCE AND IT'S 10% BELOW THAT. YOU DO THE MATH AND YOU REALIZE ELECTRIC BILL IS PROBABLY NOT GOING DOWN PROPORTIONATELY. IN FACT FLIRTY INTO SLICES MUST POWER PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK BECAUSE IT'S HOT AND HUMID.

THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY MEANS A LOT TO EVERYONE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

FLORIDA HAS A TEACHER WITH A VERY HIGH FIXED INCOME POPULATION.

A LOW-INCOME POPULATION AS WELL.0% OF FLORIDIANS PAY 10% OF THEIR AFTER-TAX INCOME TO PAY THEIR ELECTRIC BILL. WHAT WE DO AND WHAT YOU TWO HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. I WANT TO SAY WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND THAT'S WHY THE CHOP IS FOR LOW COST. WE'VE A GREAT STORY TO TELL 10 YEARS AGO THE PRICES WERE RATHER HIGH AND Y'ALL PAID QUITE A BIT FOR THE ELECTRICITY.

THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD RECORD LOW PRICES NATIVE TO THE BACK TO 2004 TO 6 PRICES FROM FM PA THAT WERE LOWER THAN $70 AND 16 YEARS. THUS FOR THE 70 COMES IN.

THAT'S A 36% PRICE DECREASE. THE PRICE DIFFERECE THE CITIZENS PAY $10 MILLION LESS AND $20 MILLION LESS FOR POWER TODAY THAN IT DID FOR THE SAME AMOUNT ELECTRICITY IN 2009.

THAT'S REALLY IMPACTING THE COMMITTEE TO SAY YOU GUYS ARE HAVING AND IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE LOW-COST POWER. IF WE LIVE OUT WHERE WE WERE THIS PAST YEAR LOOKING TO STAY BELOW 70. GAS PRICES ARE WORKING AGAINST US STILL BE THERE WE TOOK ABOUT $30 MILLION WITH COST SAVINGS SELLING OFFICER POWER.

DUNLAP TALK TO THE COMMISSION THAT WE BOUGHT GAS UNDER THE LONG-TERM ARRANGEMENT JUST IN SAVINGS AND THE WAY WE CONTRACT FOR GAS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BIG PIECE OF SAVING POWER. TREASURE COAST I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECOGNIZE IT OR NOT IS A NATIONAL CALIBER OPERATED PLANT. ITS AVAILABILITY IS BACK ONE YEAR AGO AND IT'S 94%. THE AVERAGE AVAILABILITY FOR PLANTS LIKE THAT AROUND THE COUNTRY WHETHER IT'S EMERGING DETAILS IS 85%. WHAT IS THAT MEAN? IT'S ONE OF THE LOW-COST PLANTS THAT WE HAVE. IF IT'S AVAILABLE WE GET LOW-COST POWER WHICH DRIVE THE PIPE PRICES DOWN. IT SAVED $70 MILLION LAST YEAR OVER THE AVERAGE PERFORMANCE THAT PLANTS HAVE. TREASURE COAST HAS DONE THIS FOR 10 YEARS RUNNING THIS KIND OF PERFORMANCE. WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT THAT SMALL CREW OF 15 TO 18 PEOPLE ARE ON THE NATIONAL CALIBER FACILITY THAT IS AVAILABLE, SAFE AND LOW-COST AND IT'S RELIABLE. MUCH TO BENEFIT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE PLANT AND ITS AVAILABILITY. SEE THE RED LINE IS AN AVERAGE AVAILABILITY IN THE UNITED STATES AND TREASURE COATS AT 94% WHILE IF YOU.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE WE TALKED ABOUT TREASURE COAST IT IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT HAS AVAILABILITY OVER ITS LIFETIME FOR 92%. THAT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT.

THE WAY THE PLAN IS OPERATING TEAM OUT THERE LED BY ADAM BELL AND OBVIOUSLY WITH JOHN AND

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PAUL. IT'S OUTSTANDING. THAT FACILITY PRODUCES 30% OF THE POWER THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE MEMBER CITIES AND SEE YOU GUYS PROVIDE QUITE A BIT.

IT IS A MISSION PROGRAM THAT'S WELL BELOW THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE.

THEY'VE DONE THAT AND OPERATED WITH NO LOST TIME ACCIDENT WHICH IS ASCENDING.

HATS OFF TO THE FACILITY THERE WE RELY ON THE TO PROVIDE LOW-COST AND YOUR TEAM PROVIDES A GREAT JOB. YOUR ELECTRICITY PRICES ARE LOAN COMPETITIVE IT'S BEEN A BIG DEAL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO GET THERE AND I THINK WE FINALLY GOT IT.

ALSO EMISSION REDUCTION WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT BY PUTTING IN A LETTER LOW-COST EMISSION REDUCTIONS. YOU DON'T WANT HIGHER PRICES YOU WANT AFFORDABLE ELECTRICITY. YOUR BALANCING.

THE UTILITY PROVIDES A GREAT CITY TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND ABOUT $4.1 MILLION FOR THE UTILITY. IT'S A GREAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT. WE START WITH PRICE.

IF YOU LOOK AT PURE ECONOMICS TODAY ABOUT A $.3 MILLION OF VALUE THAT THE UTILITY PROVIDES THE COMMUNITY WE WILL BREAK IT DOWN. START WITH PRICE.

THE FORT PIERCE RATE SLOWLY CAUGHT UP WITH FEEL IF YOU SEE THE BLUE ÃLIKE THAT.

NEXT YEAR THEY'LL HAVE A $10 MONTHLY BILL INCREASE IF THE REQUEST FOR RATE INCREASE IS HERE. THEREFORE SEL BE HIGHER THAN FORT PIERCE IN TERMS OF RATE.

IT ALSO ASKED FOR THREE MORE YEARS ALREADY WITH RATE INCREASES THAT ENDS UP BEING AN 18% INCREASE OVERALL. YOU ARE NOT VERY COMPETITIVE IN FACT IT WILL BE A LOWER-COST SUPPLIER STARTING NEXT YEAR. ATS OFF TO YOU FOR ACHIEVING THAT.

MANY OF THE OTHER UTILITIES ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. GOING FORWARD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NOT ONLY THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR THE CITY TRANSFERS BUT JUST LOWER PRICES WHICH IS A BENEFIT SO WELL DONE ON THAT. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TREND IF YOU GO BACK TO NINE THINGS WENT QUITE AS GOOD. THAT STARTED WITH A THIN PIECE HIGH COST BUT SINCE THE TIME IT'S COME DOWN AND YOU GUYS HAVE SURPASSED THE MEETING AVERAGE AND ARE LOWER THAN THE FM PA MAKING IT ONE OF THE LOWER-COST CITIES IN THE STATE. WITH APPEALS INCREASE TO BE CAUGHT UP. TO GIVE YOU A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE PRICES IN THE NATION HAVE ONE UP BY 17% BELOW YOUR RESEARCH DOWN 12 TO 15% IN THE LAST YEARS.

WE ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THAT. THE MOVE IS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE EVERCLEAR SOURCES OF POWER BUT TO DO SO COST-EFFECTIVELY.

THAT WAS THE CHARGE THAT YOU GAVE US SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND STARTED HIS FEMINIST PROJECT.

YOU WANTED LOW-COST POWER NOT JUST CLEAN. WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BY LOOKING AT PUTTING TOGETHER A VERY BIG PROJECT ONE OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS IN THE STATE.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 18 MW SET OF COME OFF TO BE THE SUPPLY WILL PROBABLY BE 5% OF THE SUPPLY IN 2024 ME 4%. WE CONTINUE TO REDUCE IT. PUTTING THE UTILITY SCLE PROJECT FOR FM PA IT'S ABOUT ONE THIRD TO 1/5 THE COST OF DOING SOLAR PROJECTS ON INDIVIDUAL ZONE. THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE ARE SO GREAT AND THE COST BENEFIT IS SO GREAT. HE PARTICIPATED IN THE SECOND PROJECT WHICH IS EVEN LOWER-COST TO DOING VERY WELL THERE IS HATS OFF TO THAT. THE THIRD AREA IS LOCAL JOBS.

IF ELECTRIC UTILITY DIDN'T EXIST 33.5 MILLION ECONOMIC VALUE THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN FORT PIERCE. I GUARANTEE YOU THERE WOULDN'T BE CRUISE HERE.

THEY SPENT LOCALLY AND THEREFORE THAT IS AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT AND TURN TO THE STATE.

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YOU HUNDRED AND 66 JOBS THAT ARE THE ELECTRIC UTILITY THAT ARE LOCAL.

THE TOTAL INCLUDING THE WATER UTILITIES ARE ALMOST $3 MILLION.

>> NEXT AREAS THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE ELECTRIC UTILITY MAKES. YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING ELECTRIC UTILITY TRANSFERS TO THE CITY ABOUT 4.1 MILLION WHICH IS ABOUT 65% OF TRANSFER TO THE CITY AGAIN UNTIL TRANSFERS ABOUT 6.4 MILLION TO THE CITY.

EVERY UTILITY IN THE STATE HAS A GREAT BENEFIT OF HAVING A CHANCE TO COME IN AND IT'S VALUE THEY STRUGGLE A LOT MORE THAN THOSE THAT DO. IT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT THAT YOU

HAVE. >> THAN RELIABILITY. WE HAVE LOW-COST AND GETTING CLEANER OVER AND KEEP DOING THAT COST-EFFECTIVELY REALIZED. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER HURRICANE.

MISTER APPEARED TO SHOW SEASON PERCENT OF THE CUSTOMERS ARE STILL OUT AFTER OCCURRED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FM PA AFTER THE SECOND DAY, THURSDAY AND THE FOURTH DAY CUSTOMERS WITH BACK PERCENTAGEWISE MUCH FASTER THAN OTHERS IN THIS COUNTY. THE ABILITY TO FOCUS ON YOUR CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY ONLY WORRY ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMERS WITH THE SAVAGES THEY GOT THEM BACK SOONER AND TWO A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN 60 MILES AWAY THE WORD ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMERS HERE SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS GREAT.

THE GOAL IS TO BE AT 60 MINUTES IF YOU'RE THERE THAT'S VERY GOOD.

ANOTHER POLLEN GENRE WORKING QUITE HARD ON THOSE THINGS. WITH THAT I WOULD CLOSE OUT AND SAY FORT PIERCE SUFFER THE PAIN OF 10 YEARS AGO. WE ARE NOW ON THE SIDE OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE. THE OUTAGES ARE IMPROVING THINGS ARE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THERE'S JUST MORE TO COME. WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE TEAM HERE FOR THE GREAT OPERATIONALLY I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU JACOB. WE APPRECIATE THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN THINGS ARE GOING WELL WE LISTEN A LITTLE BIT STRONGER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

THIS FOR THE GOOD NEWS FOR A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

YOU'RE TALKING BACK IN 2009 AND 10 WITH A $54 COST OF JUST TO HAVE A BACKDROP FOR ME WHEN I TOOK A LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE ARE GOING FOR NOW. ONE CONSIDERATION AS I NOTICED IN THE PORTFOLIO THAT 80% OF OUR GENERATION'S NATURAL GAS. DO WE HAVE A COMFORT ON THE

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SUPPLY OF NATURAL GAS AND SOMEWHAT OF A STABILIZATION OF THE PRICE? WE KNOW IT CAN SWING BOTH WAYS AS IT HAS IN THE PAST. WITH THAT MUCH DEDICATION TO

NATURAL GAS ARE WE CONCERNED? >> WE ARE AND LET'S FACE IT IT'S NOT JUST A WEE PROBLEM IS THE STATE OF FLORIDA PROBLEM. THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS JUST 80% NATURAL GLASS INCLUDING A FIELD. WE HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE. TO THAT POINT WE HAVE THREE MAJOR PIPELINES THAT PROVIDE SERVICE TO. THERE USED TO BE TO THE TRAIL ON THE THIRD ONE THAT WAS ADDED. THERE'S A LOT OF CONJECTURE ABOUT WHY IT'S NEEDED. FROM A PIPELINE STANDPOINT THIS IS THAT MORE ROBUSTNESS TO THAT. IS AT THE END I'LL I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT THIS STILL NEEDS TO BE SOME UPGRADES ALONG THE WAY LET'S GET THE PRICE. YOUR QUESTION IS HOW WE ARE MANAGING PRICE. WE HAVE LIVED IN LAST FOUR YEARS WITH VERY LOW GAS PRICES WHICH BRINGS THE GAS PRICES DOWN. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH 80% OF THE POWER SUPPLY TO NATURAL GAS DOUBLES THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY HAS TO GO.

THERE'S NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. CONCERNING THING IS WHAT WE CAN MANAGE.

WE CAN'T MANAGE PRICE PERCENT WHAT WE CAN DO IS CONTRACT LONG-TERM NPP CONTRACTS.

MUNICIPAL ENTITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT ACROSS SORE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

WE ARE ABOUT 33% OF THE SUPPLY AND THE BOARD IS AUTHORIZED TO GO TO 50% OF THE SUPPLY GETTING AN EXTRA $.30. THAT'S PART OF OUR PRICE MANAGEMENT.

IT IS SUFFICIENT TO SAY THIS. NORMALLY WE WOULD SAY IT'S THE PRICE OF OIL IN THE UNITED STATES GOES UP THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS WOULD COME DOWN. THIS YEAR WE'VE BROKEN THAT TREND. THE PRICE OF OIL WENT UP TO 75. THEY'RE NOT INVESTING IN THE WALLS ANYMORE AND THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE HAD TO BEAT ON THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE THE FACT IS THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR FLORIDA. IT'S NOT JUST FORT PIERCE OR FM PA. WE DEPEND ON NATURAL GAS. WE DON'T HAVE COLD OUT HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH NUCLEAR. THE SUN IS GREAT AND IT'S GONNA GROW BUT THE SUN DOESN'T ALWAYS

SHINE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> JUST A COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS BENEFICIAL NOT ONLY FROM HERE BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING. I'M WATCHING SOME THINGS GO A PARTICULAR THAT INCREASE AND HOW THAT MAY TRANSFER OVER TO THE CITIZENS. I GUESS BACK TO THAT POINT IN LOOKING AT THIS GRAPH AND I'M A BUSINESS PERSON. IN LOOKING AT THIS WE HAVE OUR EGGS IN THIS ONE BASKET. I'M HEARING SOME TALK OF SOLAR. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE WE SEE MORE IS THAT WHEN WE CAN. IN SAVING THE AND TRANSFERRING THE SAVINGS TO OUR

CONSTITUENTS. >> THE PRICE OF SOLAR IF YOU WANT TO AMORTIZE THE PRICE OF SOLAR. LET'S IT'S $25 MEGAWATT PER HOUR.

IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE A THIRD OF THE TIME. OUR NATURAL GAS UNITS ARE USUALLY A MUCH LOWER COST THAN NOT OPERATE. WHEN I RUN THOSE AS MUCH AS WE WANT. THE SOLAR IS GETTING MORE COST-EFFECTIVE TO REMEMBER IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE 30% OF THE TIME. THE SUN DOES NOT WISH THE DAY IN FLORIDA BECAUSE WE HAVE RAIN QUITE OFTEN EVERY DAY. THE BALANCE IS HOW MUCH MORE SOLAR WHERE TO GO FROM ZERO SOLAR TO PROBABLY 7 TO 10% WHICH IS A BIG CHAIN IN THIS INDUSTRY IN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS. AT SOME POINT YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU RELY SO MUCH ON SOLAR THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE GAS PLANT FITTING THERE READY TO RUN.

THERE'S FIVE DAYS IN A ROW WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE. WHERE IS IT GOING TO COME FROM? WE CAN PUT IN BATTERIES AND STORAGES WITH MUCH HIGHER COSTS.

WE'RE MAKING THAT BALANCE RIGHT NOW. THE CITY SAYS THAT THEY WANTED A SMALL AMOUNT OF SOLAR AND WE'VE ADDED IT. WERE GOING FROM HUNDRED AND 50 TODAY TO ABOUT 375 MW BY 2023. WE ARE ADDING QUITE A BIT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW MUCH.

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USING LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS SAY YOU WANT TO BE 100% RENEWABLE. IS THE PROBLEM IN FLORIDA.O DO THAT YOU PROBABLY TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY BECAUSE YOU HAD TO HAVE THE FIELDS ON THE BATTERIES 10 TO 15 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE ENTIRE GENERATION FLEET TODAY. IT'S NOT DOABLE. EVERYONE THINKS FLORIDA SUNSHINE STATE BUT WE ARE 25% LESS SUNNY THAN PHOENIX AND THE LA AREA.

WE'RE NOT REALLY THE SUNSHINE STATE. ECONOMIES OF SCALE ARE COMING INTO PLAY AND WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS OUT THERE IN THE MARKETS I HAD TO DO IT. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IT AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC IS CURIOUS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS EASY AS SAYING PUTTING SOMETHING ON TOP OF THE ROOF AND RUNNING YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND MANY OF THE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION CONTINGENCIES AS HE STATE WHAT STORMS COMING IN.

IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE. IT'S A GREAT PLACE ON THE INVESTMENT AND I THINK WHAT I TAKE FROM US IS THAT THE BUYING POWER OFBEING IN THIS GROUP OF OTHERS HELPS US TO KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT BECAUSE WE CAN BUY MORE ON A LARGER SCALE AND READ THE PRICE WAVES. PUT IT IN NEUTRAL EVERYONE ELSE

FLUCTUATES. >>. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHEN WE SAVE UTILITY SCALE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ONE SQUARE MILE WORTH OF SOLAR PANELS IS A SINGLE 75 W PROJECT. THAT'S THE KIND OF CUP ECONOMIES SKILL YOU HAVE VERSUS A LITTLE HOME HERE AND SO FORTH.

>> MET AMIR JUST A QUICK QUESTION. IN REGARDS TO SOLAR DOES NOT

EXTEND THE LIFE LIFE OF THE NATURAL GAS PLANTS? >> IS A LITTLE BIT OF DOWNTIME

TO THE SOLAR BACK? >> WHEN THE SOLAR ZONE USUALLY RELOADS HER UP BECAUSE IT'S A HOT SUNNY DAY. THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT TAKES PEEKING OFF.

THE TREASURE COAST IS A 7 X 24 PLAN. IT DOESN'T SHUT DOWN.

WE REALLY NOT HAPPY WHEN IT GOES DOWN. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S DOING 50% OR 100% IT STILL THE SAME WEAR-AND-TEAR. IT JUST RUNS LIKE A KID THE WHOLE TIME. THE BIG ISSUE THAT THE STATE WILL WRESTLE WITH IS AS YOU GROW MORE AND MORE SOLAR EVENTUALLY THOSE UNITS HAVE START BACKING DOWN A LOT AND

THEY DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT. >> IS GOOD HERE BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION WE GO TO TALLAHASSEE I WILL START SPEAKING ABOUT THESE THINGS. WHAT IDEAS THERE ARE OUT THERE TO BE THE 100% IN THE YEAR 2040 OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. THAT'S A GOOD PIECE OF THE

PUZZLE TO TALK ABOUT FOR US. >> IN FLORIDA IT'S PROBABLY THE POSTER CHILD OF THE ISSUE THAT WILL BE IN PLAY IN THE ELECTRIC SECTOR. WE ARE SO ELECTRIC INTENSIVE WAYS SO MUCH ELECTRICITY PER PERSON HERE. WE ONLY HAVE SOLAR AND NATURAL GAS BASICALLY. IT'S GONNA BE REAL COSTLY AND WE DON'T THINK MOST FOOTINGS COME UP WITH THAT. THEY'LL BE THE INTERESTING DISCUSSION AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> THEY DID ONE'S LIVE WITHOUT ELECTRICITY FOR A LOT. >> I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT IF YOU WAY AND I'M SURE THE OTHER COMPANIES IN FM PA HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IT'S NOT ONLY AFTER THE HURRICANE BUT STORM HARDENING AND DOING A LOT OF PREPARATION. P&L HAS INCREASES THAT ARE AT LEAST IN PART DUE TO THEIR STORM HARDENING. WE KIND OF DO NOT CHURN FOR A LONG.

>> STORM HARDENING IS UNDERMINING CERTAIN CIRCUITS AND PUTTING IN STRONGER POLLS VIA STEEL POLES OR CONCRETE POLES ON THE TEAM IS DONE A GOOD JOB OF DOING THAT.

IT TAKES MANY YEARS OF INVESTMENTS AND THE DENIGRATE JOB.

>> THE GOOD NEWS THAT YOU BROUGHT US THIS ABOUT THE RATES.

I KNOW THAT IS HANGS AROUND A LONG TIME AND SO IF PUA HAS SUFFERED FROM PEOPLE SAYING MY RATES ARE SO HIGH AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT AN EXTRA THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOWER THAN IF P&L.

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I HOPE WE GET THAT GOOD NEWS OUT THERE. >> WE HOPE YOU CAN HELP TELL

[c. Presentation of the rebranding of the public transit system by St. Lucie County staff.]

IT. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS A ST. LUCIE COUNTY STAFF.

AT THIS TIME I NEED TO MAKE A PHONE CALL. >> MISTER MIMS?

>> YES MET AMIR ENTITIES OF THE COMMISSION WHICH YOU HAVE ST. LUCIE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE'S HERE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REBRANDING EFFORT ON WHAT WAS ONCE THE TREASURE COAST CONNECT. I BELIEVE IT HAS A NEW NAME AND A DESIGN.

>> EVER GOING TO TAKE A BUS RIGHT? >> MY NAME IS MAIA.

THIS IS KATHY WITH ME TODAY FROM THE TRANSIT DIVISION FROM THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

WE HAD SO MUCH FUN WITH THIS PROJECT AND WE DID BRING THE PROTOTYPE BUS TONIGHTTO SHOW YOU. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS OR SO.

THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED A GRANT TO US TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT IT'S GOING TO BE A PHASED APPROACH WITH WRAPPING OUR BUSES AND YOU'LL SEE SOME CHANGES AT THE BUS STOPS WITH COLLATERAL INTEREST IN ENTIRELY NEW LOOK FOR OUR SYSTEM.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS GOING PLACES AND WE'VE ENTERED A COUPLE OF SERVICES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

WE ALSO HIRED A MARKETING FIRM TO HELP WALK US THROUGH AND GARNER THAT SUPPORT FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC AND THE TO YOU HERE ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW.

MARTY ROBERTSON TO TURN IT OVER AND LET HER WALK YOU THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MS. ROBERTS? >> WOMAN: THANK YOU. I'M TRYING TO GET CONNECTED

HERE SO LET ME MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME OKAY. >> KATHY I HAVE DEVELOPED THE LIFESTREAM. IT IS A LITTLE BIT LACKING BECAUSE MY INTERNET HERE IS NOT THE STRONGEST. IS A STORM PASSING OVER ME. I WILL DO MY BEST TO BE BLIND HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION. GO AHEAD AND START ON AN INTRODUCTION SLIDE.

I FIRST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE ARE WORKING TO REBRAND THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM AND SO WITH THAT CHANGE IS COMING.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT OF IT WITH ABOUT OUR JOINT FORCES WITH THE TRANSIT TEAM AND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS REBRANDING. THE SYSTEM IS GROWING AND IT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS WHEN IT STARTED YEARS AGO. IT OFFERS A VARIETY OF SERVICES THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT BRAND. FINALLY THE CURRENT BRAND REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT EXTENSION FOR BELONGING TO THAT AREA. THE CURRENT BRAND IS VOTE WOVEN

INTO THE COMMUNITY STATUS. >> FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND SO I'M SURE KNOW WHEN HERE CAN JUST CALL IN THE MUD OF THE HOT BUT GOING BACK TO OUR GOAL HERE WE REALLY NEEDED TO CREATE A NAME AND A BRAND THAT'S GOING TO REFLECT THE NATURE OF THE SYSTEM AND THAT BECOMES A CORE ELEMENT OF YOUR ENTIRE COMMUNITIES IDENTITY.

>> YOU WANT TO TALK FIRST ABOUT OUR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PIECE.

ENGAGING THE PUBLIC IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR APPROACH WE WANTED TO BUY IN AND IT'S SO EXCITING TO HAVE SO MUCH AND PUT FROM REALLY BOTH COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND PORT ST. LUCIE. INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH TWO PHASES AND VOTING ON A SHORT LIST OF NAMES THAT WE HAD AND IT COMES DOWN TO SHORTLISTED LOADING.

WE HAD OVER 4000 VOTES ON THAT WITH PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT BEING ONLY ONE OF THE FEW BOXES THAT

WE NEED TO CHECK. >> WE ALSO WANTED TO INVOLVE STAKEHOLDERS SO I ALREADY SEE A

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LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES THAT WE MET WITH BACK ONLY FIRST KICKED OFF THE PROJECT.

WE WANT TO ADDRESS SUPPORT IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS THAT MIGHT STAND IN THE WAY OF ANY

POTENTIAL MEANS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. >> AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE US BEING IN THIS INDUSTRY WITH THE NUMEROUS TRANSIT SYSTEMS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING HERE WITH THE TEAM TO COME TO A NAME AND A BRAND THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF.

WHEN THE VIEW WILL USE FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO COME THAT'S REALLY GOING TO MOVE YOUR AREA FORWARD. PUN INTENDED THERE. YOU CAN KIND OF BACK OUT TO THE

NEXT FIVE. >> WHEN DECIDING ON THE NAME THEY WANTED TO CONSIDER PREFERENCES BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IN THE TRANSIT SPACE YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN ORDER TO BE EXECUTED WE HAD WHAT WE CALLED THUS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THE NAME WE CHOSE HAS POTENTIAL WITH INITIAL GOALS AND REALLY HAS THE LEGS THAT WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT. IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD TO THAT NEW NAME. THE NEW NAME IS ART AREA REGIONAL TRANSIT.

IT'S A NAME THAT TRULY HAS THE MARKS AND IT SHORT AND SIMPLE TO SAY AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

IT CONNECTS TO THE REGION WHICH WILL EXPLAIN IN THE SECOND AND HAS PLENTY OF INTERESTING AVENUES FOR EXECUTION. AND SO REALLY BEFORE WE GO WANT THE LOGO TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW IT TIES INTO THE REGION WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PART.

UPON YEARS TO COME WE FEATURE WORKS OF ART WITH RECOGNITION. IT'S WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF THE REGION BUT ALSO USING ART TO HIGHLIGHT POTENTIAL FUTURES WITHIN OUR EXECUTION.

EACH ONE IS IDENTIFIABLE TO AN AREA WITHIN THE SYSTEM SERVICE AREA AND THEN WE FOUND WITH OUR RESEARCH WE REALLY WORK WITH LOTS OF FOLKS DOWN IN YOUR AREA BUT NOT ONLY DOES THE REGION PRODUCE GREAT ART BUT IT VALUES ARE. YOU HAVE PUBLIC FUNDING AND APPRECIATION FOR ART AND SO THE TRANSIT SYSTEM COMES AS A NATURAL EXTENSION.

IT'S QUITE POSSIBLY THE MOST EXCITING PART IS THE LOGO. >> REQUIREMENTS FOR A LOGO ON OUR FRONT REALLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS CLEAR AND BOLD.

IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEAN TO LOOK LIKE A PIECE OF ART AND THEN FUN AND UNIQUE WAS THAT WE WANTED TO REFLECT THE NATURE. IT'S A PROPOSED LOGO FOR THE SYSTEM SHOWN HERE IN BLACK AND WHITE. THE ITALICIZED SHOWS A MOTION IN THE BRUSH WITH FORWARD MOTION IT'S REALLY JUST DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY THAT WERE THOUGHT OF BY OUR DESIGN TEAM IN MAKING THIS LOGO. I WANT TO GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE SECOND SHOW YOU IN COLOR. HERE IT IS EXECUTED IN COLOR. THE NEXT FIGHT HAS NO AND YOU'LL SEE AGAIN THIS THREE DOUBTS OF PAIN EMOTIONALLY THE COLORS FOR EACH WITHIN THE SYSTEM. THERE'S DARK BLUE IS A BLACK SUBSTITUTE NUTS VERY NEUTRAL.

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THE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW SYSTEM AND HOW THIS BRAND IS EXECUTED ACROSS THE SYSTEM. AND SO WE LAID OUT A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN. I'LL CLICK INTO THE FIRST LIGHT HERE AND SO YOU'LL SEE A GREEN BUS IN THOSE THREE COLORS REPRESENT THOSE THREE NOTES WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

YOU CAN SEE THE ADVERTISING IN ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS PIECE OF ART.

AND THEN EVEN WITH THE GREEN STRIPE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUS SO THAT PEOPLE THAT STOPPED CAN SEE IT COMING. IT'S DONE WITH INTENT. NEXT IN LOOKING AT THAT TRANSIT MODE AND THE COLORS GOING TO BE YELLOW. IT'S CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. IT COULD BE LICENSED AND SOURCED VIA COMPETITION.

ARTWORK CAN BE USED AND SWAPPED OUT THE NECESSARY. >> YOU WILL CITIES FOLLOW THE BRAND. THIS DESIGN IS SIMPLE BUT ALSO MEETS THOSE F.REQUIREMENTS FOR

SIGNAGE. >> THE NEXT SLIDE IS A BUS SHELTER SO YOU KNOW THIS THAT THERE IS A VARIETY OF BUS STOPS AND SHELTERS THAT WE WANT TO DECORATE IN A SIMILAR FASHION AND SO THEY SHARE THAT POTENTIAL PRINT EXECUTION FOR THOSE ELEMENTS SO IT'S RECOGNIZABLE AND GIVING US THAT CONSISTENCY THAT WE REALLY NEED.

IT'S STILL FUN AND PLAYFUL AND REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PORT FEAR PEERS AND PORT ST.

>> THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE CONCEPT THAT AUTHORITY Y HAPPENING.

>> THE ARTWORK CAN BE HUNG FROM THIS EXPENSIVE FEELING WITH THE RIGHT MATERIAL YOU

COULD DO A STAINED-GLASS EFFECT WITH NATURAL LIGHT. >> FILLING OF THE POSSIBILITY OF ELEMENTS OF THAT AND MAKING FAT. THIS COULD BE A LOT OF FUN.

THESE COULD BE USING ANIMATION TO PRESENT SYSTEM FAQS AND IT COULD BE USED FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH AND REALLY JUST TO CREATE ENERGY THAT WE ARE NEEDING TO GET EVERYONE IN.

>> THE NEXT LIGHT WRAPS US UP SO THAT IS IT. I'M PRESENTING TO YOU ART WITH THE TRANSIT SYSTEM IN THE BRAND. I DO NOT THINK EVERYONE TRULY FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROCESS WHETHER YOU ATTENDED ONE OF OUR DISCOVERY CALLS OR WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR SUBMITTED NAMES OF YOUR OWN. WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND WERE CONFIDENT THAT THE SYSTEM IS REALLY IN A POSITION TO BECOME A STRONG

LEADER IN PUBLIC TRANSIT WHILE HAVING A BLAST DOING SO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH DO WE

HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICIAL ADOPTION NEXT WEEK AND FOLLOWING THAT WILL BE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE ST. LUCIE CULTURAL ALLIANCE TO ASSIST WITH SELECTING AND IMPLANTING THE PROJECT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? >> JUST ONE QUICK,.

I'D LIKE TO THINK STAFF IS HARD WORK AND EFFORT INTO THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT ELEMENT.

THAT WAS IMPORTANT. WE GET A COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND GET FOLKS INVOLVED IN EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. THINK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.

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>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PRESENTING THIS AND INFORMING THE CITIZENS THAT WATCH THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION MEETING. HE MENTIONED SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT BUS STOPS AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ATTRACTIVE THAT WE HAVE A STOPS THERE. WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WERE THERE MAY BE SIGNS OR BUS STOPS WITH NO BUS STOP COVERING.

HOW WOULD ONE GO ABOUT DOING THAT? >> EACH YEAR WE PROVIDE A UPDATE TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. IT'S AN ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT WHERE WE DOCUMENT THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY. SUCH AS CALL US AND SEND THIS EMAIL. WE WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK ON A QUARTERLY BASIS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE.WE CAN GO TO PUT THAT IN THIS YEAR. IT WERE DOING OUR PART RIGHT

NOW. >> THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.

THE ACTUAL STOPS THAT ARE THERE NOW WITH NO SHELTER. THE PEOPLE ARE STANDING IN THE ELEMENTS SUN, RAIN TRYING TO CONNECT THIS. HOW IS THE START WITH? PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE INSIDE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT

WORKS? >> THERE IS SELECTION CRITERIA THAT'S USED FOR A LOT OF LOCATIONS FOR EXAMPLE IS THERE AN EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IF NOT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WANT TO CONVEY AN EASEMENT FOR EXAMPLE. THAT EVERY LOCATION IS A GOOD CANDIDATE LOCATION FOR SHELTER TO PROVIDE A BUS SHELTER BUT WE HAVE CRITERIA OR SELECTION LISTS WHERE WE ARE FLEXIBLE WITH MOVING BUS STOPS TO LOCATIONS WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AS WELL. THAT'S ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.

WE DO HAVE AN RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL SHELTERS IN FORT PIERCE.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND STAFF SO THEY HELP US LOCATE

DIFFERENT ISSUES. >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN GENERALLY INTERESTED IN.

I'VE SEEN THEM AS I'VE TRAVELED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WHERE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES ON WHERE THESE ARE PLACED AND I CAN IMAGINE NOT BEING ABLE TO TURN CORNERS WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE. I'M GENUINELY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FOR THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT USE THIS UNDERSTANDING OUT THERE AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE BETTER SELECTIONS SO I LIKE TO HEAR BACK MISTER MIMS AS THE SITES PARTICULARLY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS A REAL CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND I WANT TO MAKE

SURE THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS THAT THE BEST WE CAN. >> SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT SO WE

APPRECIATE THAT. >> WE AS AMERICANS LIKE TO GIVE PET NAMES TO OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM AND I THINK YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THIS. I LIKE THE FACT THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF FORT PIERCE I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT US MOST OF THE WAY THROUGH THIS WITH OUR BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE IT IS. HOPEFULLY THE FOLKS DOWN AND PORT ST. LUCIE DON'T CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT THAT. I REALLY THINK YOU PICKED A GREAT NAME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK COULD BE A PART OF OUR CULTURE SOONER THAN LATER. SOMETIMES THEY WORK SOMETIMES THEY DON'T PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THIS AND I REALLY THINK IT'S PART OF WHO WE ARE. MANY GO DOWN AND JUMP ON OUR

AND IT'LL TAKE ME SOMEWHERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> A, GOES IN WITH OUR DECORATING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOXES HERE AS WELL AS THE FPA UA BOXES.

FOR PEACE IS KIND OF A FUNKY TOWN AND WE LIKE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING

HERE AND FOR YOUR HARD WORK. ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONERS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>. >> WILL BE THERE TOMORROW? >> IT'LL BE THERE AROUND 7:00

TOMORROW. >> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[d. Presentation by Melaine George, Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board Member of a Specialized Area of a Public Facility ]

IS THE PRESENTATION BY MELANIE GEORGE SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER OF A SPECIALIZED

AREA OF A PUBLIC FACILITY. >> MISTER MIMS? >> MATA MAYORWE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SUNRISE ADVISORY BOARD IS GOING TO GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE IBILITY OF INITIATING THE ROCESS OF THE CITY HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT AND I HAVE SEVERAL NUMBERS HERE

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FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT ARE HERE WITH ME SO I'D LIKE TO JUST RECOGNIZE THEM ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PRESENCE. AS WELL AS THE CANDIDATE THAT I AM ASKING TO HAVE BE PART OF THE FACILITY BE RENAMED AND IT HAS THE OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY SO I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEIR PRESENCE AS WELL AS MEMBERS WHO HELPS ME TO THIS POINT AS A RENAMING COMMITTEE. THEY ARE ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE AUDIENCE YOU LIKE TO THANK THEM

FOR THEIR SUPPORT TONIGHT. >> I SUBMITTED MY PRESENTATION TO EVERYONE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

THANK YOU. WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT NAMING OF A SPECIALIZED AREA OF A PUBLIC FACILITY. MY NAME IS MELANIE GEORGE AND I'M WITH THE SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD. I WANT TO START THE PRESENTATION GOING OVER REVIEW FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING AND MAYBE IN THE AUDIENCE ARE FAMILIAR WITH PROCEDURE THAT GOES TO THE PARKS AND FACILITIES. IN TERMS OF RENAMING AND GOING THROUGH THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE CITED FOR THIS PROCESS. THE OBJECTIVES ARE TO ENSURE THAT PARKS IN PARTICULAR SPECIALIZED AREAS ARE EASILY IDENTIFIED AND LOCATED.

WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE GIVEN NAMES OF THE SPECIALIZED AREAS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE VALUES AND CHARACTER OF THE AREA OR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THE NAMING AND RENAMING AND DEDICATION OF THE SPECIALIZED AREAS AS WELL AS YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE DEDICATION OF THE FACILITIES OR DONATIONS BY INDIVIDUALS AND/OR GROUPS. WE WANT TO ADVANCE THE REPUTATION OF THE CITY AS WELL AS INCREASE THE UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR ITS PROGRAMS. OUR NOMINEE EARL FRANK LITTLE HAS SHOWN THIS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

THE OVERVIEW. THE OVERVIEW IS THE PRACTICE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS FACILITIES STREETS AND MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS AND SPECIALIZED AREAS THROUGH AN ADOPTED PROCESS UTILIZING THE ABOVE OBJECTIVE EMPHASIZING COMMUNITY VALUES AND THE CHARACTER LOCAL OR NATIONAL HISTORY GEOGRAPHY, THE ENVIRONMENT, CIVICS AND SERVICE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I BELIEVE MISTER LYTLE HAS MET THIS OVERVIEW AS WELL.

THE CRITERIA'S AND NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GEOGRAPHIC OR COMMON USAGE IDENTIFICATION WITH A HISTORICAL FIGURE, PLACE OR EVENT RATHER INSTANCE OF HISTORICAL OR CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE. NATIONAL STATE AND LOCAL LEADERS OR HEROES BOTH PAST AND PRESENT. MISTER LOWELL IS 95 CURRENTLY CITY IS VERY MUCH PRESENT STILL WITH US. AN INDIVIDUAL LIVING WHO HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT DEMAND FOR MONETARY CONTRIBUTION TO THE PARK RECREATION AREA FACILITY OR MUNICIPAL BUILDING OR BE WHO HAS HAD CONTRIBUTION MADE AN MEMORANDUM OR NAME HAS BEEN STIPULATED IN THE CONDITION OF A DONATION WHICH IS NOT APPLIED TO HIM BUT THE TOP PART DOES. THE FIFTH ONE IS AN INDIVIDUAL LIVING WAS CONTRIBUTED OUTSTANDING CIVIC SERVICE TO THE CITY.

MISTER LOWELL HAS MET FIVE OF THE SIX CRITERIA AREAS. THE SIXTH ONE IS WOULD BE THAT

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YOU WOULD BE A NATIONAL OR GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. AND SO HE IS A PERSON AND NOT A PIECE OF LAND. HE WOULD NOT NEED THE 61 BUT HE NEEDS FIVE OF THE SIX CRITERIA SET FORTH. THE RENAMING AREAS SHOULD THE SUNRISE THEATER BOARD IN OCTOBER 2019 BEGAN THE DISCUSSION OF CONCLUDING AND HAVING DIVERSITY IN THE SUNRISE THEATER. I'M SURE THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CITY MEMBERS THAT THE THEATER HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF MUCH DISCUSSION IN OUR COMMUNITY OF LATE.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS A BOARD WE TALK ABOUT IT IN OUR MEETING IS TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO DO IS REJUVENATE AND CREATE THAT INTEREST IN OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

NOT JUST A SUBSET. FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT DIVERSITY WITH THAT. THROUGH THE CONVERSATION WE THOUGHT OF THE POSSIBILITY OF NAMING A PORTION OF THEATER AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT ACCOMMODATIONS AND IS KNOWN IN THE COMMUNITY AND PARTICULARLY IN DISTRICT 1 OR THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY IT HAS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE THEATER IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF FORT PIERCE AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE MARKET THAT WE HAVEN'T TAPPED INTO OTHERS BECAUSE WE ARE MISSING IT TO HELP SUPPORT THE THEATER.

AFTER MUCH THOUGHT WE CAME UP WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WE THINK MEETS THE CRITERIA AND HIS NAME IS EARL FRANK LITTLE. PART OF THAT WAS RENAMING THE MEZZANINE WHICH WAS A BALCONY AREA. AT FIRST THIS WAS CONSIDERED THE SECOND WHICH WAS CONSIDERED THE BALCONY WITH THE ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR OF THE THEATER. THE HISTORY OF THAT AS WE KNOW IS THAT THAT WAS A PLACE THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAD TO SIT WHEN THEY VISITED THE THEATER.

I WAS A PRODUCT OF THAT AND I ACTUALLY IN MY EARLY YEARS HAD TO GO UP AND SIT UP IN THE BALCONY AREAS. WITHOUT THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE A STIGMA WITH THE POPULATION HERE IN FORT PIERCE AND SO WE ADDRESSED A RENAMING THAT AND REALLY GIVING IT ANY PRESENCE.

THAT MEZZANINE AREA WITH THE FIRST 10 ROWS OF THE BALCONY AREA SHOWS A SEATING CAPACITY AND CORRECTION ON THE FOR 225 SEATS FOR THAT AREA. THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF GOD IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY. THE THOUGHT WAS TO RENAME NOT.

THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE BOARD IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020. AND SO THAT YEAR-LONG WE HAD AND WE HAD A COUPLE MEAT SO WE ONLY HAD ONE MEETING. AGAIN THE RENAMING OF THAT SHOWS THE DIRECTOR SHARON DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING AND SUGGEST THE POSSIBILITY OF RENAMING THE LOBBY AFTER MISTER LYTLE SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE BEFORE THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AT 41% IN THE COUNTY AT 16%. BY ADDRESSING AND SERVICING AND HONORING THE PAST THE SUNRISE THEATER CAN MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR THE NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE OF THE THAT TELLS YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CRITERIA AND OBJECTIVES AND PURPOSE FOR THE PROCEDURE FOR RENAMING SOMETHING IN THE CITY FOR FORT PIERCE.

MISTER LYTLE CONTINUES TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE CITY. HIS CAREER HAS SPANNED OVER 68 YEARS OF EDUCATING, DIRECTING AND PERFORMING ON THE FIELD OF MUSICAL ARTS.

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HE CONTINUED HIS POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION AND TRAINING WHILE CONTINUING THE UNIVERSITY WITH THE CONSERVATORY OF MUSIC IN OHIO. HE HAS SERVED THE COUNTRY AS A UNITED STATES ARMY AS A DENTAL TECHNICIAN FROM 1945 TO 1951. INCLUDES MANY YEARS OF SERVICE WITH VOLUNTEERING CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND EVENTS. THE LEADERSHIP MISTER LYTLE HAS EXHIBITED WITH DIRECTING AREA PERFORMANCES ENABLED HIM TO EXPOSE GENERATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING TREASURE COAST AREAS TO THE WORLD OF THEATER AND ART.

HIS IMPACT ON HIS STUDENTS ALONG WITH THE DEDICATED RECORDINGS OF EVENTS, PERFORMANCES, AWARDS AND HONORS DURING HIS TENURE ONLY SOLIDIFY SOME OF HIS CONTRIBUTION AND INFLUENCE. MISTER LYTLE CONTINUES HIS DYNAMIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO ST.

LUCIE COUNTY AND THE YOUTH WITHIN THE SURROUNDING TREASURE COAST AREA.

HE RETIRED FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS IN 1991 HOWEVER AFTER HIS RETIREMENT HE CONTINUED IN THE CIVIC AND COMMUNITY SERVICE INVOLVE UNTIL 2019 WITH HIS LAST OPERETTA IN THE BEACH IN DECEMBER 2019. HE HAS A MASTER INSTRUCTOR EDUCATOR WITH ST. LUCIE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. FROM 1955 TO 1991 HE LED THE FIRST ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHORUS TO APPEAR IN THE ALLSTATE CONVENTION IN 1965. HE WAS A PART OF THE LINCOLN ACADEMY CLASS OF 1943. HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN DIRECTOR AND JUDGE FOR THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY CORAL COMPETITIONS. HE IS STATE APPROVED FOR THE CORE MUSIC STATE OF FLORIDA. HE SERVED AS BOTH THE FLORIDA LOCAL ASSOCIATION DISTRICT CHAIRMAN AND PRESIDENT. HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN ST. LUCIE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TEACHER OF THE YEAR IN 1983. HIS ASSOCIATE MASTER TEACHER AWARD FOR THE FLORIDA POSITIVE EDUCATION. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MUSICIANS INC. AWARD RECIPIENT AND HE WAS INDUCTED INTO THE FLORIDA VOCAL ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME 2012. HE'S AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH.

THE ST. LUCIE OPERA SOCIETY 1976. HE ARRANGED AND DIRECTED CHRISTMAS PERFORMANCES ON THE TREASURE COAST FROM 1951 TO 2019 AND HE ESTABLISHED A PERFORMING ARTS SCHOLARSHIP IN 2016 AND HE CURRENTLY HAS TWO RECIPIENTS THAT ARE ATTENDING FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY IN TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA. I ASKED MISTER LYTLE.

I SAID WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IN HIS WORDS HE SAID MY INTEREST IN LIFE FOR UP TO STARTED WHEN I WAS IN THE THIRD GRADE AND LINCOLN PARK ACADEMY IN THE 1930S PERFORMING IN DRAMAS AND OPERETTAS. MY TEACHERS WANTED TO EXPOSE THESE TYPES OF VENUES TO STUDENTS OF LINKIN PARK ACADEMY. WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE MANY TRIPS OUT OF TOWN TO VARIOUS PRESENTATIONS YEARLY INCLUDING THE PASSION PLAY IN THE QUALLS, MUSICALS IN WEST PALM BEACH AND CONCERTS IN MIAMI. THIS EXPOSURE CEMENTED MY LOVE OF MUSIC IN THE EYE IN WHICH I'VE SPENT MY LIFE AND THE LIVES OF OTHERS ON THE TREASURE COAST. THAT ENTIRE WORDING OF HIS AND I THINK ABOUT WHEN HE HAD TO LEAVE HIS. SICKO AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO GO OUTSIDE OF FORT PIERCE FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO WITNESS AND SEE AND ENJOY THE ARTS. THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE REASON THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE FACILITY TO BE NAMED AFTER MISTER LYTLE FOR THE RENAMING OF THE MEZZANINE AFTER HIM OR PART OF THE SUNRISE THEATER.

WITH THAT SAID THESE ARE SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE ARE PLANNING AND HOPING THAT THIS

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WILL BE CEMENTED TONIGHT FOR MISTER LYTLE AT AGE 95 YEARS OLD.

THEY ARE FACILITATING THE DESIGN AND PLANNING OF THE SCHEDULE RENAMING FOR THE PHILANTHROPIC EVENTS. THE COMMITTEE IS AWARE THAT THE SUNRISE THEATER IS UNABLE TO ASSIST WITH ANY OUT-OF-POCKET FINANCIAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE RENAMING HONOR AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY. OUR EXCLUSIVE EVENTS WELCOME EVERYONE FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND OTHER STATES TO ATTEND AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE RENAMING FRONT TO BE ESTABLISHED BY THE EARL FRANK LITTLE FAMILY. MEETINGS WILL BE HELD WITH SUNRISE THEATER DIRECTOR ON JUNE 15 TO RESERVE DATES AND TIMES ON THE THEATER SCHEDULE CALENDAR OF EVENTS AND TO UPDATE THE ADVISORY BOARD OF THE NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST 2021. THE CALENDAR FOR EVENTS PLANNING ARE AS FOLLOWS.

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2021 WILL BE A COCKTAIL RECEPTION BY INVITATION ONLY.

THAT WILL BE TO INTRODUCE MISTER LYTLE AS A VERY SPECIAL ARTIFACTS THAT HE HAS MAINTAINED OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER IN FORT PIERCE. I THINK THERE'S SOMEONE SITTING BACK THERE WHO KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WE EXPECT THAT TO BE REALLY WONDERFUL EVENT AND HLP SUPPORT THIS ENDEAVOR AS WELL AS SATURDAY, OCTOBER 23 2021.

A COMMUNITY MEETING IS IN THE SUNRISE THEATER IN THE MAIN AND THEN ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 18 THE MAIN EVENT OF WHICH MISTER LYTLE WILL AGAIN BE PRESENT AND IT WILL BE JUST A WONDERFUL CELEBRATION WITH GROUPS AND A NATIONALLY KNOWN JAZZ MUSICIAN. WHEN APPRAISING THE EVENTS AS WELL AS OTHER EVENTS THAT MISTER LYTLE AND CONTEXT THAT HE IS MAINTAINED THROUGH HIS YEARS HE IS EXTREMELY DILIGENCE AND KEEPS IMPECCABLE RECORDS. YOU'VE GIVEN US QUITE A BIT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE AND HELP TO SUPPORT THIS EVENT FOR HIM. I THINK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS. >> I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING HIS FORMING AND HOW FITTING THAT THE PERFORMING ARTS THEATER AND HE IS OBVIOUSLY REALLY ACCOMPLISHED EXPERIENCED A LONG SERVING GENTLEMEN IN THAT AREA.

>> I'M A MEMBER OF THE FORT PIERCE CLUB FOR 45 YEARS. EVERY YEAR WE HAD A CHRISTMAS PROGRAM. THAT'S WHERE I GOT TO MEET MISTER LYTLE AND HE DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH BUT AS KATE STOOD AND THEY JUST GOT BETTER AND BETTER.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND MORE I'M SURE AS PART OF THE DEDICATION AND THE REASON TO

SUPPORT THIS. >> I'VE PERSONAL TESTIMONY OF MISTER LYTLE.

>> HE ACCEPTED ME IN THE CHORUS WHEN I WAS REMOVED FROM ANOTHER ENTITY OF MUSIC IN THE 80S. HE WAS THERE WITH OPEN ARMS TO ACCEPT ME AND HELP ME TO ACTUALLY WIN STATE HONORS AND 85 WE WENT TO STATES. WE WERE VERY EXCITED.

I'VE KNOWN MISTER LYTLE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. HE'S A VERY DESERVING AND BELIEVE IT MY FATHER'S OLDEST FRIEND. I'M INTIMATELY AWARE OF MISTER LYTLE WITH FOND MEMORIES THAT HE SHARED WITH ME ABOUT MY FATHER.

I THINK OF BESTOWING SUCH AN HONOR TO MISTER LYTLE AND I THINK OF THIS AND MANY OTHER THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT HIM.

HE RECRUITED A NUMBER OF US TO PERFORM FOR YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN KIDS.

HE EXPOSED US TO HER. MY MOTHER WAS IN THE OPERA. HE STAYED TRUE TO HIS CRAFT OF EXPOSING YOUNG STUDENTS. TO THINGS THAT WE COULDN'T WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND WITH YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE TIME SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

>> THIS IS GREAT. I DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY BUT I LIKE READING THE STORY AND I

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LOVE HISTORY. ESPECIALLY WHEN I CAN LOOK AT THE INFLUENCE THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS HAD ON OUR COMMUNITY AND MANY FOLKS IT'S JUST AWESOME.

MADAME MARY SUPPORT THIS AND I THINK WE HAVE TO RECOMMEND I DON'T THINK WE KEPT A VOTE BUT

I RECOMMEND THOSE TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> THAT THE PROCESS.

>> ABSOLUTELY AND DEFINITELY RECOMMEND NOT. >> FOR CLARIFICATION ARE THERE TWO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SUNRISE THEATER THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING?

>> WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO AREAS AND THEN I BELIEVE MISTER LYTLE AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD

LIKE IT TO REMAIN THE MEZZANINE. >> I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING

THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD WILL MEET. >> IF I MAY AT THE NEXT MEETING THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD A SEPARATE MEETING TO RENAME THE MEZZANINE OR THE MAIN LOBBY CEMENT WELCOME PEOPLE INTO THE MAIN LOBBY AT THE SUNRISE THEATER.

>> I THINK THAT'S GOING TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD AT THE AUGUST MEETING TO DISCUSS.

FROM THAT POINT THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE PARKS AND NAMING COMMITTEE.

>> MET AMERICAN MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION IT IS YOUR DIRECTION TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO EITHER ACCEPT THIS AS A TASK OR NOT. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT AND THAT RECOMMENDATION CAN BE ACCEPTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROCESS AS WE HAVE ESTABLISHED.

>> WE WANT TO GET IT MOVING AND KEEP IT MOVING RIGHT? IS IT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT

RIGHT NOW FITTED TO THE PARKS. >> THAT IS A PROCESS YES MA'AM .

>> WHAT I HEAR IS THAT MY GO TO THE SUNRISE THEATER BOARD FOR THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO

CHOOSE THE LOCATION. >> FOR THE SPECIFIC LOCATION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN 2019 AND WE HAVE SOME DATES ON THE CALENDAR.

THE COMMITTEE HAS QUITE A BIT TO DO TO GET THOSE DATES SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THIS I'VE ASKED MISTER LYTLE WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER AND I THINK IF HIS NAME IS GOING TO BE ON IT WE CERTAINLY SHOULD CONSIDER HIS WISHES AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT BEING IN THE MEZZANINE. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN REACH OUT NOT ONLY AS A TEACHING FOR OUR STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY WE WANT TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AND MAKE HISTORY OF THE SUNRISE THEATER A LITTLE BIT MORE RELEVANT BY NAMING IT AFTER SOMEONE SO FITTING. IF THE MEZZANINE FITS IT LEAVES THE LOBBY OPEN FOR EVEN MORE ENDOWMENTS IN THE FOUNDATIONS IN THE FUTURE AND MORE ABILITY TO RAISE FUNDS BY STARTING THIS AND NAMING IT.T OPENS UP FOR WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THIS DONE IN A TIMELY MATTER AND

THAT'S WHAT WE ASK IS THE RENAMING COMMITTEE. >> WHEN IS THE NEXT THEATER

BOARD MEETING? >> IT'S THE SECOND TUESDAY IN AUGUST.

>> WHEN WILL THE PARKS AND RECREATION BE MEETING? >> TUESDAYS THE 10TH.

MADAME MARY WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD AND FORWARD IT ON TO THE PARKS ADVISORY LET THEM REVIEW THE PROCESS NOW AND THE LOCATION CAN BE IRONED OUT.

>> HE CAN BRIEF YOU ON THE UPCOMING SCHEDULE OF THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. IF WE GO BY THE PROCEDURES ESTABLISHED US THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO MAKE A PUBLIC CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS.

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THE SUNRISE THEATER IS A BIT UNIQUE IN THAT IT ALTHOUGH IT IS A CITY FACILITY THAT'S NOT GENERALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON A DAILY BASIS YOU JUST CAN'T WALK IN AND SEE A SHOW.

THE SCENARIOS LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HOW NAMING PROCEDURE WAS ESTABLISHED.

IF WE FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE YOU WOULD MAKE A CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS AND WE WOULD RECEIVE THE SUBMISSIONS HANDED TO THE PARK ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW.

THEY WOULD THEN COME TO YOU THE CONFERENCE AGENDA TO SHARE WITH YOU WHICH ONES MET THE CRITERIA. JUST BY WATCHING THE PRESENTATION THIS ONE IS GOING TO CERTAINLY MEET THE CRITERIA AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK AT A COMMISSION MEETING FOR YOU ALSO DECIDE ON THE SUBMISSIONS AS TO THE 20 WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL MEET THE THURSDAY AFTER THE ADVISORY BOARD MEETING IN AUGUST.

>> IN THE INTEREST OF MOVING THIS ALONG AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

MISTER MIMS DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR US IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN QUICKLY?

>> IN ITALY THAT THESE DATES ON THIS LETTER NOT GOING TO BE MET.

I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROCESS AND I THINK IF YOU ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD TONIGHT THEN YOU CAN DIRECT MISTER WELLS AND I REALLY CAN'T GIVE YOU A DATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO REVIEW AND ACCESS ASSESS THE SITUATION AND THEN THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY ADVERTISE FOR ADDITIONAL TIME SO IT'S GOING TO BE LONGER THAN

WHAT IS SHOWING HERE. >> BUT YOU KNOW WE WANT TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY

CAN BUT WE HAVE PROCESSES. >> WITH THE FEEL OF THE COMMISSION?

>> IF WE JUST PUT THESE PROCESSES IN PLACE RECENTLY WHEN WE WITH THE STAFF IT WAS FOR EXACTLY THESE RATES. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AND THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN BUT WE STILL HAVE PROCESSES THAT WE ESTABLISHED THAT WOULD HELP ESTABLISH HOW WE DO THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MANY MORE COMING I'M SURE IN THE FUTURE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE CHILDREN'S AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD A GREAT STORY TONIGHT THAT NEEDS TO BE FURTHER AMPLIFIED. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE SEND IT TO THAT COMMITTEE EXPEDITIOUSLY AND HAVE THEM GET WORKING ON IT SO THAT WE CAN

ADJUST THESE LITTLE BIT. >> THAT'S DOABLE. >> YOU NEED A FORMAL MOTION?

>> YES MA'AM THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR ARE WE OKAY WITH MOVING EXPEDITIOUSLY THROUGH THE PROCESS.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> 11 B IS WHAT COMMISSIONER

WANTS TO PROVE. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> AS A MILK MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSS THE ROLE. N

[b. Approval of Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Fort Pierce and the Kiwanis Club for a public private partnership for site improvements at Jaycee Park.]

>> I'D LIKE TO TRY THINGS STUFF IN MOVING THIS ARD. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT STARTED BACK DURING THE CORONA VIRUS TIMES. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS NOT ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS IN THE LUNGS CONSISTENT MEMBER AND I'M PRETTY PROUD OF THAT.

>> AND DO MANY THINGS FOR THE LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IN SERIOUSNESS WE'VE BEEN

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WORKING WITH THE CITY AND IT IS NOW MORPHED INTO THIS PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE SUNRISE CALL ON US AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THE BIG THING THERE IS A QANTAS CLUB TOOK 90 DAYS PUSH BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THIS TASK. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER HAS A CONTRACT TO FOLLOW THIS THROUGH. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO REPLACE THIS AND THE KIDS PART AT JC. THE KIWANIS CLUB IS GOING TO TAKE UP THAT STEP TO MAKE IT ALL ACCESS FOR ALL KIDS. THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT PARK IS HITTING $15-$20,000. THE PLACEMENT ON THAT PARK RIGHT NOW WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND MATERIALS ARE GOING UP ON A DAILY BASIS.

IT'S ALMOST $225,000. IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT FOR THE CITY OF PORT PIERCE AND FOR THE QANTAS CLUB. WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE. WE ARE MEETING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR PARTNER LEATHERS AND ASSOCIATES AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN BETWEEN THE THREE OF US WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY THE BEST DESTINATION PART FOR THE KIDS NO MATTER WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF THAT AND I INVITE YOU TO JOIN WITH US AND BE A PART OF THAT TEAM.

>> NEEDED TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER SHOT OUT AND IT'S JUST AMAZING WHAT WE ARE DOING.

IT'S OUR PARTNERSHIPS THAT MAKE THINGS RK. IT'S HOW WE WORK WITH THESE PARTNERSHIPS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. WE TAKE WITH US TO THE FORT PIERCE PROVIDES AND WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER AND THAT'S THE THING THAT WE KEEP SEEING THROUGH SOME OF OUR COMMERCIALS. THAT'S THE WAY THAT FORT PIERCE

IS REALLY STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD. >> ALYSSA SIDE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT READ CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND WORRY ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT'S GOOD TO BE IN THE CITY'S HANDS. KIWANIS IS OUR PARTNER WERE MOVING FORWARD BUT AT THE SAME TIME PECULIAR POLICIES WILL BE FOLLOWED IN COMPETITIVE BIDDING TYPE APPLICATIONS WILL BE DESIGN BUILD AND THEN BILL AFTER THAT.

IT CAN BE FOLLOWED. >> IT'S ON THE CLIP CAME BEFORE AND THEY PROMISE HOPES TO BRING WITH KIDS AND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHALLENGES. I CERTAINLY WANT TO COMMEND COMMISSIONER PERLA AND THE WORK AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE BEGINNING.

WE WILL FIND IT FURTHER DOWN THE LINE THAT WE COULD ADD 1 TO 2 OR THREE MORE FACILITIES BECAUSE OUR CITY IS GROWING AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TOUCHING MANY POINTS OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE PARK AND HAVE ACCESS TO THESE AMENITIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS. I KNOW WERE TO BE LOOKING AT SOME PROJECTS GOING FORWARD AND IT'S MY PLEA TO THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING AS WELL THAT THESE THINGS ARE COMING TO A

NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU VERY SOON. >> THAT'S IN SUPPORT OF ONE

FORT PIERCE. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU KUDOS AND SAY THANK YOU.

AND YOU WANT TO HELP IN ANYWAY I CAN. I HOPE THAT THERE IS A CHRONICLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE PROGRESS SO THAT YOU CAN TELL THE STORY AFTERWARDS.

>> IT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE BASICALLY MANAGING WAS HAPPENING. THEY ARE 5073 AND. AND I CAN EMBRACE FINDING

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THEMSELVES. WE DID THIS BEFORE WITH KIDS CROSSING AND A LOT OF US WERE INVOLVED WITH THAT I BELIEVE THAT WAS A ROUTINE EFFORT. FROM MANY DIFFERENT WALKS ASSOCIATION CAME FORWARD AND MISSED THAT A CITY EVENT. INTERVIEW COMMUNITY FILLS IN EVERYBODY HOPEFULLY WITHOUT MASKS AND VERY EVIDENT IN THE YEAR OUT FROM NOW.

HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A CELEBRATION OF GETTING BACK TO WHAT WE DO AND DOING SOMETHING

NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> YOU BRING UP SOME GOOD POINTS IF I COULD BRING UP THE ROTARY PART. HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WERE THERE AND THAT'S THE HAPTEN IN THIS PROJECT TOO. THIS CAN BE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND

EFFORT AND JUST GETTING IT DONE. >> I MADE MY OWN TIME-LAPSE OF THAT PROJECT GOING ON FROM SCRATCH FROM WHERE THEY TORE IT DOWN TO WHERE THEY FELT.

NOW I KNOW THEY HAVE THESE CAMERAS THAT DO IT AUTOMATICALLY.

I WAS ON THE BILL SO EVERY DAY AND EVERY HALF HOUR OR HOUR IT GO OUT MY CAMERA ON THIS LITTLE POST. IT HAD A LITTLE CATCH ON THE SIDE OF IT SO I TRY TO GET THE SAME SHOT EVERY TIME. I WORE MY CAMERA OUT BY TAKING SO MANY PICTURES AND THEN I PUT IT ON A TIME-LAPSE SOBERING UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION SOMETIMES YOU CAN SEE THAT COME OUT OF THE GROUND AND LOOK AT IT WHEN ANY FILM AWARDS FOR HER TO GUARANTEE IT.

WITH THAT MARY MAKE A MOTION TO

[a. Presentation and Public Hearing on the Draft 2021-2025 Five-Year Consolidated Plan and the Draft 2020 Annual Action Plan. ]

>> FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS MANDATE THAT ANY COMMUNITY RECEIVING CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING MUST CONDUCT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ANNUALLY AND AT THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE GOAL IS TO SOLICIT RESIDENT VIEWS AND TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. THESE GUIDELINES ARE OUTLINED IN THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS 24 PART 91, CFR REGULATIONS.

THE MANDATE ALSO -- IT'S MANDATED THAT JURISDICTIONS PREPARE A PLAN AND A STRATEGY TO DEVELOP VIABLE URBAN COMMUNITIES BY PROVIDING DECENT HOUSING, SUITABLE LIVING DEVELOPMENTS AND EXPANDED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. THE PLAN IS BUILT ON A PAR PISS PA TORE PROCESS INVOLVING THE STAKEHOLDERS, AS WELL.

SO HUD'S OVERALL GOALS FOR THE PLAN INCLUDES INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INCREASING HOMEOWNERSHIP, HOUSING REHABILITATION, PROVIDING SERVICES TO HOMELESS AND AT-RISK POPULATIONS, IMPROVING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROVIDING PUBLIC SERVICES TO LOW AND MODERATE HOUSEHOLDS, AS WELL AS FUNDING FOR ADMINISTRATION AND PLANNING AND ALSO FACILITATING FAIR HOUSING. SO THROUGH THE SURVEYS THAT WE HAVE CONDUCTED THROUGH PUBLIC EVENTS AND STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, SEVERAL PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THE MAIN

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PRIORITIES INCLUDE EXPANDING AND IMPROVING ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES, PRESERVING AND DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PROVIDING PUBLIC SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS AND GENERATING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES, AND I WON'T READ EVERYTHING, THE LIST THAT'S ON HERE, BUT JUST FOR A FEW ACTIVITIES THAT THE CDB FUNDS ARE USING FOR, ASSISTING SMALL BUSINESSES, CRIME PREVENION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES, HELPING RESIDENTS TO SOLVE ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND COMMERCIAL REHABILITATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, JUST TO NAME A FEW EXTHE ANDE OTHERS ARE LISTERRED LISTE. SO THE GOALS AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE NONEE ACHIEVED WITHOUT STAKEHOLDERS AND INCLUDING THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND RIVER STATE COLLEGE AND OUR MAIN STREET PROGRAMS. WAYS IN WHICH WE REACH THE PUBLIC, WE POST INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND WE PUT OUT PRESS RELEASES AND WE PUT EVENTS ON THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND LOCAL NEWSPAPERS AND ESPECIALLY THE HOMETOWN NEWSPAPER.

AND ONLINE SURVEYS, FLIERS, PUBLIC MEETINGS AND AT OUR COMMUNITY-WIDE COUNCIL AND AHAC COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN FROM 2021 THROUGH 2025, IT OPENED ON JULY 14, 2021 AND WILL REMAIN OPEN REMAIN OPEN AND THERE WAS A MEETING THAT HAPPENED ON JULY 14TH JULY 14TH AND, OF COURSE, THE MEETING TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING. RARE LOOKING AT WE'RE LOG COMMENTS FROM THE ACTION PLAN AND INTEND ON ALLOCATING FUNS FROM THE ECONOMIC PLANS, $129,000 WILL BE ALLOCATED TO SEVERAL COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, SUCH AS THE BUSINESS EXPO, THE JOB FAIR, MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND START-UP GRANTS.

AND 69,000 WILL GO TOWARDS PUBLIC SERVICES, SUCH AS THE SUMMER PROGRAMMING AND YOUTH SUMMER CAMPS AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE GRANTS AND $55,836 TOWARDS UPDATE TO PLAYGROUND TWO PUBLIC FACILITIES AND OCCUPIED HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND 180,000 -- LET ME MEET UP WITH MY SLIDE -- 180,000 TOWARDS NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AND THAT INCLUDES SUCH ACTIVITIES AS PROMOTION OF LOCAL ARTS AND CULTURAL HERITAGE AND COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANTS AND COMMUNITY-BASED DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS, OUR MAIN STREET ORGANIZATIONS.

AND THEN THERE'S 120,617 TOWARDS PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.

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THE DRAFT OF THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS LISTED HERE. AND WE CAN ALSO TAKE COMMENTS ON THE PLAN, NOT OWN THROUGH THIS MEETING BUT ALSO VIA EMAIL, AS WELL AS MAIL. AND THE EMAIL ADDRESS TO SEND COMMENTS IS GRANTSADMINISTRATION AT CITY OFFORTPIERCE.COM.

AND ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU DON'T NEED ANY ACTION FROM US. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-019 establishing a registration program for vacation rentals, including standards, rules and enforcement. SECOND READING]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS ORDINANCE 21-09, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, ARTICLE 10, SHORT TERM AND VACATION RENTALS, STANDARDS AND ALLEGATIONS PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF AND FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND THIS IS THE SECOND READING. I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU AND THE ORDINANCE REVISED FROM THE LAST MEETING AND THE NUMBED FORMAT WAS ATTACHED AND PEGGY IS HERE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF

YOU CAN -- >> YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE, TO

THE AGENDA. >> SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ON PAGE 3, THE TOP PARAGRAPH, PAGE 3, TOP OF PAGE 3, LINE 103 AND YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS FIVE

YEARS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> SO YOU WE SAY ONE YEAR SOMEPLACE ELSE.

AND IS THAT A -- >> THAT IS A DIFFERENCE AND THIS REPEAT VIOLATION IS ACTUALLY A IDENTIFYING WHAT A REPEAT VIOLATER IS BECAUSE PENALTIES CAN BE HIGHER WHEN IT'S A REPEAT VIOLATER UNDER THE STATE STATUTE.

>> SO DOES THAT CONFLICT, THEN, WITH THE OTHER PART OF THIS, WHERE WE HAVE A ONE-YEAR THREE VIOLATIONS IN ONE YEAR? DOES THAT PLAY INTO THAT AND HOW DO THOSE ACT TOGETHER?

>> THEY CAN ACT SEPARATELY AND WE HAVE ONE SET OF RULES FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGER, BUT THERE'S OTHER VIOLATIONS THAT THIS WOULD APPLY TO SO THEY CAN OPERATE SEPARATELY.

>> SO THEY CAN EXIST IN THE SAME DOCUMENT AND MAKE SENSE IN THE

SAME DOCUMENT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE YOU AS A RESOURCE BECAUSE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HAVE COME FROM YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT JUST TO START OUT, COMMISSIONERS, IF I CAN, JUST TO GIVE US A STARTING PLACE FOR DISCUSSION, ON PAGE 4, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, WHICH WOULD BE NUMBER 12, THERE IS A WHOLE PARAGRAPH OF LANGUAGE ABOUT NOISE THAT REPLACES WHAT HAS BEEN LINED OUT WHICH IS WHAT YOU HELPED US WITH, CORRECT?

>> THE ORDINANCE THAT IS PRESENTED TOW TO YOU HAS THE DECISIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MADE AT THE LAST MEETING.

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>> RIGHT. >> MY MEMO IS RECOMMENDING A

DIFFERENT ACAPTION ACAPTIO. >> I CAN READ IT FOR THE COMMISSION IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT AND IT REPLACES ALL LINED OUT FOR NUMBER 12. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IT? SO THIS IS WE TALKED ABOUT AND HOW WE CURRENTLY READ?

>> CORRECT, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WE COPIED AND PASTED FROM OTHER

JURISDICTIONS. >> RIGHT.

>> SO THE REPLACEMENT IS STRAIGHT FROM OUR CODE.

>> SO ONE OF THE THINGS, IF I MAY, IS THAT I THINK WE SAID C REFERENCE TO WHATEVER. SINCE THIS IS AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT THAT WE PUT THAT IN THERE, SO THAT AT LEAST FROM ONE PIECE OF PAPER, IT CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE ORDINANCES ARE AND YOU CAN REFERENCE IT, COMING FROM THE CITY CODE AND WHAT PAGE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PUT IN THE DOCUMENT. I THINK WE WERE STRIKING STUFF DOWN IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE OFFICIAL ORDINANCE IN THERE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> IF I COULD COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT FOR EVERY SECTION AND EVERY TIME WE REFERENCE.

HERE IS THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT, IN MY FIVE AND WHATEVER YEARS, WHEN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CODE AND MODIFY SOMETHING.

AS SOON AS YOU DEFINE IT, YOU HAVE TO DEFINE EVERY LOCATION WHERE THE WORD THE, AND AND NOISE COMES UP AND REPLACE IT IF YOU PLACE THAT CERTAIN SECTION. SO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIND IT AND I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

IF IT'S REFERENCED IN THE CODE AND REFERENCES THE CODE SPECIFICALLY, WHATEVER NUMBER IT IS, SEE CHAPTER 26, ARTICLE 2-NOISE, AND IF YOU PUT THAT SIMPLISTIC FORMAT IN THERE, COMMISSIONER, I BATTLE WITHIN MY OWN BODY AND BEING THAT I WANT TO LIST THAT ORDINANCE. THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN YOU LIST IT AND YOU GO TO CHANGE THAT EXACT ARTICLE IN THE OTHER PART OF THE CODE, YOU HAVE TO FIND IT IN ALL OF THE PLACES YOU REFERENCED IT AND CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE. AND I THINK WE WENT THROUGH AN ITERATION WITH MR. SWEENNY AND M WITH SOME OF STATE ITEMS. I KNOW WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY AND CONTROL F AND YOU GO TO A PDF AND YOU FIND ALL OF THE LOCATIONS, BUT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THEM ALL, SO I HAVE THE COMPASSION FOR IT, YOU'RE SAYING. I'M NOT SURE WE NEED IT.

>> HERE IS WHY I THINK WE DO NEED IT BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE PERSON STAYING IN THAT -- FOR THE PERSON TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.

>> RIGHT. >> SO I WROTE DOWN THE

RECOMMENDATION. >> OK.

>> WHEN WE GET DONE WITH ALL OF THIS, WE SHOULD CREATE A SUMMARY SHEET OF THE THOU SHALLS AND NOTES, BUT NOT WRITE IT INTO OUR ORDINANCE, BUT PROVIDE A SUMMARY.

>> SO AS LONG THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION.

>> RIGHT, AND WE CAN PROVIDE IT FOR ANYONE THAT OWNS A SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL AND HAVE THEM PROVIDE IT TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT RENTS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW.

>> MAYBE IN THE PACKET OF INFORMATION.

>> JUST SO IT'S THERE, RIGHT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, OH, MY GOODNESS WHO WILL KNOW SECTION 26 OF OUR CODE.

>> OUR LOOK IT UP OR CARE. >> OR KNOW THAT ONLY CERTAIN BEACHES ALLOW DOGS OR ANY OF HA, THAT, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE, BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE THEIR VACATION MORE ENJOYABLE AND I

WRESTLE WITH THAT. >> AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE GROUP TO TALK ABOUT THAT EXACT THING.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP. WE EXPECT THIS TO BE PROCESSED THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE WONDERFUL WALL OF INFORMATIONAL PAMPHLETS THAT SHE HAS AS SOON AS YOU WALK INTO YOUR LEFT, COVERING EVERYTHING FROM HOW TO

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HANDLE YARDWAYS TO DISCHARGE OF PAINT AND IT WOULD BE VERY EASY, IT SEEMS, IN GIVING THAT FINAL SIGN-OFF, HERE IS YOUR ABILITY, GO RUN YOUR AIRBNB AND YOUR GUIDE BOOK, FOLLOW IT, PLEASE.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF THAT INFORMATION, ALREADY, BUT I SHARE COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON'S CONCERNS, BECAUSE IT TOOK US A YEAR TO FIND THE INCONSISTENCIES IN CODE WHEN WE REWROTE THE CODE. IT'S VALUABLE AND NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE SOMEONE CAN GET THEIR HANDS ON IT.

>> WE CALL IT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE, IS WHAT WE TERMED IT.

EASY TO REFERENCE. FLORIDA STATUTES DO IT ALL OF THE TIME AND YOU HAVE TO SEEK IT OUT.

>> SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT AFFECTS MY SUGGESTIONS FOR WHAT WAS SUGGESTED ON PAGE 5, NUMBER 15, FIREWORKS.

>> WHAT'S THE LINE NUMBER? >> 251.

>> JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, THERE WERE FIREWORKS ALL OVER, AND THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. AND SO, AS LONG AS WE HAVE CLEAR INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN THERE ARE FIREWORKS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I GUESS THAT IS STILL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND THERE'S A WHOLE ORDINANCE ON FIREWORKS,

RIGHT. >> NO, IT'S A STATE STATUTE.

AND THAT'S WHY I RECOMMENDED IT STAY.

IT'S A STATE STATUTE. >> OK.

AND THEN FOLLOWED BY DOMESTICATED ANIMALS.

>> THIS PART OF THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE CAME FROM MY OFFICE BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT THE PROOF OF RABIES IS VITAL.

WHEN THERE'S A BITE, THAT CERTIFICATE IS THE NUMBER ONE ITEM WE NEED. THERE ARE 100 DIFFICULT ANIMAL RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING LEASHING AND PICKING.

AFTER YOUR PET AND THAT COULD ALL BE INCLUDED, BUT HAVING THE PERSON WHO IS COMING INTO TOWN WITH THEIR RABIE CERTIFICATE IF THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR ANIMAL, WE FEEL THAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE DOCUMENT WE NEED IF

THERE WAS AN UNITS INCIDENT . >> I BELIEVE THOSE WERE GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS UP FOR DISCUSSION OR WOULD REMAIN AS IS. , FROM WHERE I SIT. NOW I CAN ENTERTAIN ANY DISCUSSION FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

>> I'LL START. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SMALL THINGS HERE, BUT THE PUBLIC HAS WEIGHED IN AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE EMAILS AND THE PHONE CALLS AND THE CONCERNS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE TAKING EVERY EFFORT HERE TO LISTEN AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK ON A DOCUMENT THAT'S FAIR FOR ALL INVOLVED. WITH THAT BEING SAID -- AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE JUST ADDRESSED THIS, BUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS, THE LANGUAGE AND I THINK THIS IS PAGE -- I'M NOT SURE ON THE LANGUAGE. WE'RE DEALING WITH THE HOUSE STUFF THAT WAS ACTUALLY POSTED. AND I THINK WE DEALT WITH THAT.

I THINK, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU WERE RECOMMENDING -- I WANT

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TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REGULATIONS, THE RULES AND ALL OF THAT IS PLACED IN THE PACKET SO THAT THE PEOPLE COMING HERE WILL KNOW WHERE IT'S AT AND THEY CAN ACCESS IT AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THERE AND THAT PACKET CONTAINS X, Y AND Z AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT RIGHT.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE WHO LIVE HERE OR UNDERSTAND OR KNOW OUR ORDINANCES, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THERE AND FATHER AND FULL DISCLOSURE AND I'M RELATIVELY HAPPY WE'RE MOVING IN A DIRECTION TO PUT THAT IN THE PACKET SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT.

IF THEY READ IT, IT'S UP TO THEM, BUT AT LEAST IT'S IN THE PACKET. AND I'LL COME BACK.

IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING? >> WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE LULL THINGS THE LITTLE THINGS AND I JUST WANT CLARITY ON IT. SO I'M LOOKING AT LINE NUMBER 176, ABOUT THE LOCAL PHONE SERVICE.

AND A LAND LINE OR CELL PHONE, IF THE OWNER IDENTIFIES THE FACT THAT THE TENANT HAS A STONE, L PHONE, IS THAT SUFFICIENT? IT'S FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES, ONLY, BASICALLY.

>> YOU MEAN, IT'S NOT IN THE COMMON AREA OF THE RENTAL UNIT, BUT IT'S ON THE PERSON STAYING THERE.

>> IF THEY CAN IDENTIFY THE FACT THERE'S AN ACTIVE CELL PHONE IN THE UNIT DURING THIS TENANCY, DOES THAT QUALIFY?

>> I THINK PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THE TASK FORCE, AND PEGGY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WAS THE CONCERN IF YOUR CELL PHONE IS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, IF YOU CALL 9-1-1, WILL

THEY IDENTIFY WHERE YOU ARE? >> THAT WAS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION, IS TO MAKING SURE THAT THE ROAMING CHARGES -- THERE WAS A VARIETY OF ITEMS THAT WAS THE CONCERN.

>> IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY THAT, IT SOUNDS FUNNY TO SAY.

BUT AS WE ALL KNOW COVID HAS CHANGED IT, VERY STRONG EUROPEAN TOURIST DESTINATION AND MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE EUROPEAN PHONES WORK ON DIFFERENT NETWORKS. SO IF YOU'RE COMING HERE FROM GERMANY, YOUR PHONE, SAMSUNG MAY NOT WORK ON OUR SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY MET BY EXAMPLE.

NOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS FROM MICHIGAN.

>> IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY CALL AND IF THERE'S AN EMERGE.

MY SON LIVES IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY AND HE CALLS ME ON HIS IPHONE WAY TOO OFTEN AND THEY'RE ON A DIFFERENT TIME.

BUT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE IN THIS COUNTRY VISITING AND IT MAY BE DIFFICULT AND AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, IF WE HAD THE AVAILABILITY TO HAVE SOME FUNCTIONAL WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH AN EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, IT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE PIE BUY A CELL PHONER THEIR UNIT AND WE DON'T NEED A DEDICATED LAND LINE BECAUSE IT MAY BE USED ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE, BUT IT ADDS TO AN EXPENSE AND LAND LINES MAY BE SOMETHING OF THE PAST, AND IT'S SOMETHING BETTER IN THE FUTURE.

SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO HAVE SOME FORM OF COMMUNICATION IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE YOU STATED THE INTENT CLEARLY.

THE ACTUAL WORDING IS THE WILL UNFORTUNATE COMMISSION,

OF THE COMMISSION. >> SO AS LONG THE INTENT IS

THERE, I'M GOOD. >> I HAVE TO ISSUE WITH IT BECAUSE YOU CAN MAKE A CALL WITH WI-FI.

AND I CAN USE AN IPOD TOUCH AND MAKE A CALL WITH WI-FI.

>> YOU CAN, COMMISSIONER, I CANNOT.

>> I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LAND LINE, BUT I CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THIS IS ABOUT SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S NOT ABOUT US IMPLEMENTING RULES.

THIS IS ABOUT BEING ON THE PREMISE AND IF THEY'RE NOT FROM HERE AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO EMERGENCY SERVICES, NET HAVE A HANDY DANDY DEVICE OF SOME SORT THAT WILL HELP THEM

AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. >> SO THE INTENT JUST TO HAVE SOME FORM OF COMMUNICATION TO CONTACT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

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THAT'S WHAT THE -- VERY SIMPLE. >> AND FREE SERVICE OR WHATEVER

MODE OF COMMUNICATION YOU LIKE. >> AND TO GO ON, I HAVE A COUPLE

MORE. >> OK.

>> ONE IS -- AND I'M REFERRING TO THE 347 ON PAGE 7, AND, AGAIN, I E KNOW THIS IS IN RESPONSE AND I REALLY THINK -- STAFF DID A GOOD JOB OF IDENTIFYING THE FACT THAT THOSE MADE BOOK A YEAR IN ADVANCE AND THIS MAY CAUSE A PROBLEM AND I THINK TO STAND OUT THERE AND TO CREATE THIS SMALL VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL EXCEPTION TO BRING IN THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT AND SET PRICE, THAT HAVE GOTTEN THIS THING IN MOTION AND I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT AND THAT'S WHY THE DATE OF DECEMBER 31ST, 2022, AND, OF COURSE, THERE'S -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT BOOKED BEFORE -- IS IT OCTOBER? SO IF THIS PASSES AND GOES FORWARD, IF YOU BOOK SOMETHING BEFORE THEN, YOU HAVE UNTIL THAT DATE.

THAT I LIKED A LOT. AND MY LAST ONE, AND I'M STILL TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND IT, AND I'M REFERRING TO 395 AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT I'LL RESPOND.

I WANT YOU TO DEFINE FOR ME ONE MORE TIME RESPONSE.

>> WELL, RESPONSE COULD BE A VARIETY OF RESPONSES.

WE HAD LIVELY DISCUSSIONS AT THE TASK FORCE ABOUT IT.

AT FIRST, IT WAS IF THE POLICE HAD TO RESPOND, AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS CALLING THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING AVAILABLE AND IT COULD BE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY CALLING THE PLUS. SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE WHAT IF'S AND DIFFICULT SCENARIOS THAT COULD PLAY OUT.

AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT AN ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING THAT COULD HAPPEN. AND THAT'S WHY IN THE MEMO, AND

LET ME BRING MY MEMO UP AGAIN. >> I WAS GOING TO REFER TO YOUR MEMO AND SOME EXAMPLES OF A RESPONSE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS, TELEPHONE CALLS WHERE IF THAT'S ALL IT REQUIRED WAS THAT TYPE OF RESPONSE.

AND IT COULD BE A SIGNED CONTRACT FOR A SERVICE.

SO LET'S JUST SAY THERE WAS A REPAIR THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE AND THEY COULD HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT FOR A SERVICE.

AND NOT SOMETHING VISIBLE RIGHT AWAY.

LET'S SAY IT'S A FENCE MAINTENANCE, I CAN PERSONALLY TELL YOU FOR ME TO GET AN ESTIMATE, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS SIX WEEKS OUT. AND YOU MAY NOT SEE SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY'RE DOING WORK.

THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES. AND NOTICE OF A TENANT TO VACATE. AND IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SITUATION THAT THE COMPLAINTS CT ORIGINATES FROM AND THERE'S NO WAY TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT THAT WILL BE.

>> SINCE IT COMES WITH A CONSEQUENCE, THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO BE TIED UP CLOSER, BECAUSE IT INTO BE SHOULD BE ES POLICE EXPLICY IF THIS COULD CAUSE A HARDSHIP AND CHANGE OF MANAGERIAL OVERSIGHT, BUT TO WHAT INTENSITY? I DO EXPECT A RESPONSE AS FAR AS

FROM THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. >> LET'S SAY I RECEIVED A COMPLAINT AND MANAGEMENT FIRST REVIEWS IT AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT OR IT HASN'T REACHED A TRULY PROACTIVE SET, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS TO WEIGH IT AND SHE MAKES THAT DECISION ON THE WEIGHT OF THE RESPONSE VERSUS THE NAME OF THE COMPLAINT. SO IT IS A TWO-STEP REVIEW PROCESS AND MANAGEMENT WOULD REVIEW IT FIRST FOLLOWED BUT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. THAT'S ASSUMING WE RECEIVE AN ATTEMPT TO CORRECT. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE IGNORE US.

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>> IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR AND OBJECTIVE AND NOT SUBJECTIVE AND NEEDS TO HAVE A VALUE TO THE AGREEMENT RATHER THAN ONE OF INTERPRETATION AND INTERPRETATION SOMETIMES IT'S WHAT ATTORNEYS DO. BUT THE INTERPRETATION SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO A REGULAR PERSON TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE

TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. >> I WANT TO PIGGY-BACK ON THAT.

WHAT LINE WAS THAT? >> YOU THINK 395.

>> RIGHT, SO I THINK -- I SOMETHING POPPED IN MY MIND.

A PERSON SHALL RESPOND TO ANY AND ALL CALLS AND WHAT YOU JUST STATED TO ME MAY BE A FUNCTION ISSUE AND CHALLENGE WITH IS ANY AND ALL. SO IF SOMEONE CITED THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT A PARTICULAR THING AND AN OFFICIAL CALL AND THEY DON'T RESPOND AND THAT'S ONE THING, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS THAT ANY AND ALL CALLS, SO THAT IF A PERSON IS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY WANT TO CALL OR SOMETHING AND THAT BINDS THAT PERSON WHO WAS THE MANAGEMENT PERSON TO GET BACK TO THEM IN AN HOUR OR TEXT THEM BACK ON WHATEVER INQUIRY IS BEING MADE. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> SO I GUESS I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE WITH THAT ONE, TOO.

I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO BACK OFF OF IT. WE WANT RESPONSES, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO TRIGGER A LANDSTORM OF JUST UNINTENTIONAL GOOD WILL. WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS AT THIS POINT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BLACK LOOK AT THAT AND THS LEAVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTERNATION, THE CALLS WITHIN ONE HOUR. AND SO IF IT CAME IN FROM A CITIZEN, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PREMISE OF THAT PERSON TO RECEIVE THE CALL TO DOCUMENT THAT THEY RETURN THAT PERSON'S CALL WITHIN AN HOUR. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK THROUGH THAT.

I'M NOT 100% WITH IT. I THERE'S SOMETHING THERE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT AND GO FROM THERE.

I FOUND MY ONE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> MADAM MAYOR, IF I CAN. >> YES.

>> SO IT WAS ACTUALLY STARTING ON LINE 449, PAGE 9, AND SO, THIS IS SOMETHING HERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FOR THE RENTSERS RENTERS.

WE'LL HAVE A BOOK WITH THE GOOD AND BAD STUFF TO DO.

BUT I THINK HERE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO LIST IT, RIGHT, ON THE

WEBSITES. >> ON THEIR ADVERTISEMENT.

>> YES. >> AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THIS AND HOW I READ IT, ALL OF THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT ON THE WEBSITE.

AND SHOULD THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PUT IT ON THERE?

>> YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THEY HAVE, AND I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS -- ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THIS IS THAT IF THEY PLAN TO COME TO FORT PIERCE, YOU NEED TO KNOW UPFRONT IF THIS IS SUITABLE

FOR YOU. >> I READ THAT DIFFERENT, MADAM MAYOR. IF WE'RE GOING TO LIST ALL OF THIS STUFF AND ALL OF THESE ARTICLES AND REFERENCES ON A PARTICULAR SITE, I'M NOT SURE THAT CAPACITY IS THERE.

YOU CAN SEE IF WE MAKE REFERENCE TO THE GUIDE BOOK AND HERE IS A HYPERLINK, BUT THE WAY I READ THAT IS THAT ALL OF THAT TEXT HAS TO BE IN THERE AND KIND OF LIKE THE LANGUAGE AT THE END OF THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMMERCIAL, THEY RUN BY SO FAST, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ACHIEVING HERE.

I WANT TO CONVEY THE RULES AND THIS IS WHAT THE RULES ARE AND GETTING THE INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE AIRBNB'S AND THIS IS THE PEOPLE THAT WENT FROM THEM.

I THINK WE'RE ASKING -- I LEARNED THIS -- I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND WE'RE FIGURING THIS OUT, DID THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY

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TO DO THIS IN ALL OF THIS LANGUAGE? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT AND I'M SAYING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING I'M CONCERNED WITH STAFF, ASKING THEM SOMETHING AND I THINK WE NEED MORE AROUND THAT AND I THINK WE NEED MORE

FEEDBACK. >> I THINK I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE VIOLATIONS AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE VIOLATIONS FOR ALMOST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, THE ADS CAN GET QUITE DETAILED.

THERE IS AMPLE PLACE TO PUT THAT AND NARRATIVES AND SOME OF THEM ARE 15 PAGES LONG AND DESCRIPTIVES.

AGAIN, THE INTENT, AS THE MAYOR INDICATED.

THE SEA TURTLE LIGHTING, A SUNSET WINNIPEG ON A SUNSET WED, BE YOU WEDDINN THE LIGHTS DOWN AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BEFORE PEOPLE RENTED THAT LOCATION AND THE SAME WITH THE DOGS. WE DO NOT HAVE A DOG-FRIENDLY BEACH WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO A LOCATION

IN THE COUNTY TO DO THAT. >> ON THE BEACH, OK.

>> SO IF YOU HAVE COMING HERE AND YOU HAVE YOUR DOG WITH YOU, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU START LOOKING TO RENT THIS

LOCATION. >> OK.

>> THIS WAS TO INFORMATION THEM OF SPECIFIC RULES IN OUR CITY AND SO THAT YOU'RE EDUCATED BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH

YOUR RENTAL. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE MORE? >> I'LL COME BACK.

>> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> NO, I LIKE THE CHANGES THAT WERE THERE AND WHAT I WANTED TO GO BACK TO IS THE ONE-HOUR -- AND I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP A SECOND AGO AND I DIDN'T WANT TO STOP IT.

I WANTED TO LET YOU SPEAK. GOING TO ONE HOUR.

SO YOU ASK A GOOD QUESTION THAT SPURRED SOME OTHER THOUGHT.

THE ONE-HOUR RESPONSE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SOMEONE IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD OR A NEIGHBOR, THE MANAGEMENT RESPONDING TO. SOMEONE HAD A COMPLAINTS OR A ABOUT WHO THEY WERE RESPONDING TO?

>> IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, RIGHT?

>> WE HAVE A ONE-HOUR RESPONSE AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT COULD BE A TELEPHONE RESPONSE, RIGHT, AND I THINK WE HAD SOMETHING REFERRING TO ONE HOUR AND THAT WAS WHERE THEY LIVED OR SOMETHING IN THAT VICINITY, BUT YES, THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT

THAT. >> YEAH, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS AND WE'RE TRYING TO COVER THE SCENARIOS THAT ARE OUT

THERE. >> I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE ASPECT OF, OK, WHAT TRIGGERS THAT CALL, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE AND IF THERE'S A DISTURBANCE, ROUTE, I WOULD HOPE THE FIRST CALL WOULD BE TO THE 9-1-1 SERVICES, NOISE HERE, A CLEAR NOISE ORDINANCE AND THAT MAY TRIGGER CODE AND IT'S GOING TO TRIGGER SOMETHING THAT HAS LEGAL AUTHORITY TO SAY, HEY, PIPE DOWN, TOO MUCH GOING ON HERE, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT. >> AND I WOULD HOPE THAT IF I OWN ONE, THEY WOULDN'T CALL ME FIRST.

THEY MAY CALL ME, RIGHT, FINE, BUT THE FIRST WOULD BE EITHER TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

I'M SECOND AND YOU CALL ME AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING I HAVE AN HOUR, OK, MRS. SMITH, I GOT YOUR CALL OR TEXT HER BACK, I RECEIVED YOUR CALL AND MESSAGE AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I'M IN CONTACT WITH MY TENANTS NOW. SO THAT TEXT MESSAGE COULD BE A

RESPONSE WITHIN AN HOUR. >> OK.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND I'M WORKING THROUGH THIS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THAT AND IT'S NOT ONLY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING OUR CITY AND GIVING THEM -- WE DON'T WANT OUR PUBLIC CONFRONTING THIS. BUT IT GIVING THEN A PROCESS OF HOW TO REPORT IT AND TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS OF MONITORING WHAT

WE'RE DOING HERE. >> RIGHT.

>> AND I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS, ALSO, AND WHAT I WOULD

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THINK WOULD BE LEGITIMATE REASONS FOR HAVING THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS CALLED, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY RESPONSIBLE PERSON AND THEN CONTACTED THE TENANT TO ADDRESS THE USH IN AUDITION TO MAYBE LAW ENFORCEMENT BEING CALLED OUT AND SO, FOR ME, IT DOESN'T TRIGGER ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE A REPETITIVE ISSUE AND THEN THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS INVOLVED. AND THEN AS AN OWNER, IF I HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SAID, LISTEN, LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS CALLED, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AT 8:00 P.M.

AND I LET MY TENANTS KNOW AT 8:30 P.M., YOU KNOW, MADAM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THIS IS MY CASE, THIS IS MY DOCUMENTED PROOF THAT I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, THERE'S NO ISSUE, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. OBVIOUSLY, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE

CAN RULE DIFFERENTLY. >> THAT'S DUE PROCESS.

>> THAT'S TRUE DUE PROCESS AS EXACTLY THE CASE.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION, TOO.

BECAUSE THAT IS A CHALLENGING ONE AND IT'S BEEN QUESTIONED A NUMBER OF TIMES. THE ADVERTISING PART, SO I BROUGHT UP AIRBNB AND I'M LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE AND THAT'S ONE OF MANY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL BE THE FLAVOR OF CHOICE AND ADVERTISING IS ADVERTISING.

IS THERE A LIMITATION TO ADVERTISING? IS THERE A LIMITATION TO LINES? I THINK I HEARD YOU TALKING

ABOUT THAT, TOO? >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE FROM THAT AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT OPINION AND I WANTED THE CODE TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE.

I'M NOT ON THE AIRBNB. I USE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW LINE CODE OR HOW MANY SPACES ARE IN THERE AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS SOMETHING PHYSICALLY DONE OR MAKE REFERENCE TO.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT BLINDERS ON FOR MY PLATFORM.

DOING IS VERY GENERIC AND EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOW THAT WE COULD CREATE A TRIFOLD PAMPHLET USING THOSE REFERENCES AND I DON'T HAVE TO USE SOME THIRD-PARTY WEBSITE TO ADVERTISE

AND I COULD USE MY OWN. >> WE ARE REQUIRED RUNNING FOR OFFICE TO HAVE ALL OF THE STATUTORY THINGS, RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. >> I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE SOMETHING OUT OR ADD TO SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT PLATFORMS THAT ARE MOST COMMONLY USED.

>> SO IT'S NOT THAT I'M LOOKING TO TAKE OUT.

I WANT A DISCUSSION AND THIS IS A LEGAL-BINDING DOCUMENT AND I DON'T WANT TO ENTER INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULD CAUSE US CONSTERNATION TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FLUSHED IT OUT AND MAKE SURE IT'S LIBERTIES AND T WANT TO MAKE SURE BEYOND WHAT IS POSSIBLE. YOU LIKE YOU SAY, I HADN'T BEEN ON THIS A LONG TIME AND RENTED IT IN A LONG TIME.

>> WHEN YOU REFERENCED IT, I SAID LET ME LOOK.

AND I SAW AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR A BUNCH OF AREA RENTALS AND I WANTED TO GET DEEPER INTO THE LANGUAGE.

>> OK. >> AND MR. REYES, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WILL BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER

AVAILABLE 24/7? >> THIS IS A DISCUSSION I'VE HAD WITH MR. MIMMS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE ON-CALL OFFICERS.

>> THE INITIAL QUESTION, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT WHEN WE HAVE

LAW ENFORCEMENT? >> I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST UNDERSTOOD THIS WOULD BE IF THERE WERE CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OF THE REIMBURSEMENT OFR RESPONSE.

MR. MIMMS, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S DIFFICULT FOR OUR CODE COMPLIANCE MANAGER TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT HAS UNNECESSARY REVENUES TO FUND WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ENFORCEMENT, THEN WOE HAVE E TO REVISIT THE FEES TO WHAT IS BEING APPLIED TO THIS PROGRAM, BUT IF ALL AS A CITY COMMISSION DIRECT CITY STAFF TO HAVE SOMEONE ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE, THEN WE WILL FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED AS OF YET AND THE EASIEST THING TO HAVE A STAND-BY EMPLOYEE LIKE WE TYPICALLY DO WITH OTHER ASPECTS, HAVE AN EMERGENCY

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STANDBY NUMBER FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES AND CALLS, BUT TYPICALLY, LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD RESPOND. IF THEY TALK ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE GRASS, WE HAVE PROBLEM. IT'S HOW YOU WANT TO STRUCTURE

IT. >> YOU KNOW, IN FAIRNESS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACTS, SOME ARE PERCEPTIONAL, BUT WE KNOW HUMAN NATURE AND THE IMPACTS THAT COULD AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEGATIVELY, I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN AFTER 5:00 AT NIGHT MORE SO THAN THEY WILL BEFORE 8:00 IN THE MORNING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT RESEPPIVE RECEPTIT THAT THIS IS HUMAN NATURE SO THE NOISE, THE PARKING AND THE PARTYING AND ALL THAT WE HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION, MOST OF THAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, AFTER BEEN MAYBE, 6:00, 7:00 AT NIGHT WHEN FOLKS ARE HOME AND THEY EXPECT THE QUIET JOYMENT ENJOYMENTN HOME. WHEN IT POLICE ARE CALLED, THEY MAKE THE CALL TO BE ABLE TO CALL SOMEONE ON CALL FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT SHOULD GET INVOLVED AT THAT TIME.

WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE, BUT TO HAVE SOMEBODY SITTING BY THE PHONE ON A 24/7 WAITING FROM THAT, THERE'S A REALISM THAT COULD TAKE OVER AND YOU CAN HAVE THE EMERGENCY FIRST RESPONDER AT THAT TIME OF THE NIGHT. IF IT DOES, THEN MAKE THE CALL AND IF IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T. SO IT'S A RARITY.

>> SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, MADAM MAYOR.

WE CAN COME BACK FOR QUESTIONING AND I'LL THINK ABOUT THIS A

LITTLE BIT MORE. >> OK.

>> THIS IS NOT QASI-JUDICIAL SO WE HAVE OUR STAFF.

>> SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> WE'RE ON THREE MINUTES. >> YES.

>> ARE YOU GOING GIVE THREE-SECOND WARNING.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> I'M AT 715 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I SENT YOU AN MAUL REGARDING.

EMAIL REGARDING. WE ARE ENTITLED TO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. I WANT YOU TO MAKE NOTICE OF MEMBRAN VERSUS HIALEAH. I HAVE TWO LAWFUL PERMITS THAT WERE HELD QASI-JUDICIAL AND ONE OF THEM WAS ON 10/19/2020 UNDER 12B AND THE NEXT ONE WAS -- FIRST ONE OCTOBER 21, 2019 12E AND OCTOBER 19, 20B AND BOTH OF THEM WERE HELD AND THEY BOTH

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WERE GIVEN UNDER SIX CONDITIONS. AT THIS JUNCTURE, WITH THIS ORDINANCE, IT IS ILLEGAL WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WE HAVE VALID CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND HELD BY HEARING, QASI-JUDICIAL AND THE INFORMATION IN THIS ORDINANCE IS A SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION AND IT IS NOT LAWFUL.

YOU WERE REQUIRED TO NOTICE US. YOU DID NOT.

YOU WERE REQUIRED TO GIVE US A REHEARING ON THE QASI-JUDICIAL.

IN THE EVENT THAT ANY OF US HAD VIOLATED MATERIALS TERMS ID REVOKE THE PERMIT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY THIS WOULD NOT BE, QUOTE, GRANDFATHERED IN. THOUGHT THIS ENTIRE TEXT, YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT INFORMATION REGARDING INSURANCES OR OTHER VAL LUD VALID REASONS, AS WELL.

YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH WHAT YOUR CITIZENS ARE CLAIMING.

YOU VIOLATED THE SUNSHINE LAW AND ENACTED AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE.

THIS WAS ALL DONE BY THE TASK FORCE.

THE TASK FORCE CONSISTS OF MICHAEL BRODERICK, REBECCA GERRERA, PAT MURPHY AND HOW DARE YOU PUT PAUL THOMAS ON THIS LIST. HE HAD MOOING NOTHING TO DOS BECAUSE HE AND I WENT TO TALLAHASSEE UNDER THE OPINE 179 AND FOUND THAT VACATION RENTALS WERE LAWFUL AND HE LOST THAT SITUATION. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE PUT HIM ON THAT. SECOND OF ALL, THE FACT THAT THE TASK FORCE LITERALLY GAVE YOU THE TEXT FOR THIS ORDINANCE SHOWS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE VIOLATED SUNSHINE LAW AND YOU ARE ALL CONSIDERED UNLAWFUL AND LIE VI LAWSUITED YOUR ONLY VIOLATED YOUR ONLY.

>> THANK YOU, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER.

>> YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. >> WHO IS NEXT?

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.

>> WE'RE NOT SWEARING IN. THAT'S I'M EUGENE COCHRAN AT R AVENUE. I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD NOT APPROVE THIS. AT LEAST THE COMMISSION AND PEOPLE INVOLVED ARE NOT ADMITTING AFTER ALL THESE MONTHS AND YEARS THAT THESE ARE BUSINESSES AND THESE BUSINESSES ARE GOING INTO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND TO, I AGREE WITH HER SAYING TO STRIKE THIS DOWN AND GOING BACK TO A RESIDENTIAL.

AND IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A BUSINESS, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ZONING BOARDS FOR C3 TO KEEP THEM IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODSESS WHERE BUSINESSES BELONG. THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORS WHICH I SPOKE TO EXTENSIVELY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ANYWAY OR THE CITY. I DON'T THINK THIS WILL DO A GREAT DEAL FOR US. SO IT'S VERY WELL WRITTEN AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY, STAFF, FOR WRITING AN EXCELLENT DOCUMENT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO BEING RENTER NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUSINESSES IN BUSINESS AREAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHO IS NEXT?

>> PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> WOULD IT HELP IF MAYBE MAYBE STARTED TO QUEUE AND THAT WAY WE KNOW.

>> PERHAPS YOU COULD SORT OF STAND IN THE BACK THERE BY OUR

OFFICER AND, SIR? >> I'M RICHARD RYLOT.

I STAND HERE AS A LOCAL REALTOR. WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND WE APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THIS IS A BROKEN SYSTEM YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX.

THIS IS NOT THAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU GUESS I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT THERE ARE THINGS IN HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THEM, SUCH AS LINE 395, THE BIG ONE. WITHIN AN HOUR, IF I'M SLEEPING

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AND I MANAGE A FEW PROPERTIES AND A FEW CLIENTS WITH INVESTMENT PROPERTIES. IF YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE UP TO THREE MONTHS, RIGHT? WE'RE IN A THREE-MONTH PERIOD AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO COME HERE TO ESCAPE THE COLD. SO IF I FALL ASLEEP OR MY PHONE GOES TO VOICEMAIL, TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AN HOUR, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE AND I DO THE BEST I CAN DO AND YOU TAKE CARE OF MY CLIENTS. AND AN HOUR IS JUST A LITTLE BIT EXTREME. ON LINE 170 TO 175, THE EMERGENCY LIGHTING, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE'S HOMES AND TO HAVE A RUNWAY STREET OR RUNWAY, AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT, TO WALK OUT MY FRONT DOOR JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BENEFICIAL THERE.

AND MAYBE I HAVE MISTAKEN THAT. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. LINE 91, AGAIN, WE THINK THAT -- OR I THINK THAT SHOULD READ TO SEE THE FORT PIERCE CODE BECAUSE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND CREATE LESS CONFUSION BUT THAT'S YOUR CONFUSION. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. HAVE A GREAT DAY!

>> WHO IS NEXT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M LARRY WINTER, AND 1931 AND 33 CRESTVIEW DRIVE AND I'M BEEN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER SINCE 2018. WHEN I OFF APPLIED, I WAS GIVE SIMPLE CONDITIONS, MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY WITH CITY CODE, PRETTY HAZY AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER AT ALL TIMES, PERIOD.

IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO LIVE HERE OR BE REGISTERED OR ANYTHING. REGARD THE LOCAL RULES AND OBTAIN ST. LUCY COUNTY, BUSINESS LICENSE, LIMIT OF NO MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES PER UNIT AND SIMPLE, FIVE THINGS.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE NOW IS TAKEN THE FIVE IS GONE TO 11 PAGES OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE UNREALISTIC AND CANNOT REALLY BE ENFORCED.

YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT ZONING, WELL, WE ALL KNOW FROM THE STATE LEVEL THAT THE STATE CONSIDERS A DWELLING RENTAL TO BE LEGAL. WE'RE HAVING PEOPLE SLEEP AND EAT AS OUR GUESTS. THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS VENUES AND NOT HAVING PARTIES.

THE TASK FORCE AND THE COMMISSION ARE ASKED BY SOME HOMEOWNERS TO IGNORE THE STATE STATUTES DEALING WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. EVEN THOUGH THE CITY IS GRANDFATHERED IF, THE CITY MUST FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTES UNDER 509. THIS ORDINANCE IS ASKING FOR CITIES TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS IN DIRECT CONFLICTS WITH 509. I WOULD RATHER THEM SEE A COURSE OF ACTION IN THE JULY OF 2020 PLANNING WORKSHOP, INNER-ACTION WITH THE PUBLIC. THIS TASK FORCE DID NOT DO THAT.

IN THAT WORKSHOP THEY HIGHLIGHTED STEPS NEEDED FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

ALL YOU REALLY NEED IS A BUSINESS TASK RECEIPT AND STATE LICENSE WITH DVPR, TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, FAIR, KEEP IT CONSISTENT AND ENFORCEABLE AND LEGAL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHO IS NEXT?

>> I'M MARK DEROSA, 3143 SOUTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, PRESIDENT OF THE ST. LUCY LANDLORD ASSOCIATION.

I SENT YOU AN MAUL AT EMAILE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH AND THERE SHOULD BE NO ORDINANCE WHATSOEVER.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I'LL OUTLINE A FEW POINTS THAT I MADE. FIRST OF ALL, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS BEEN SUED AND LOST SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

A LOCAL JUDGE SAID LOCAL LAW ORDINANCE MAY NOT PROHIBIT VACATION RENTALS OR REGULATE THE DURATION OR FREQUENCY OF VACATION RENTALS. SO THIS HAS BEEN RULED ON AND ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME, IN MY OPINION.

SECONDLY, I BELIEVE THAT THE THREE OF YOU SHOULD RECUSE

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YOURSELVES FROM ANY VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE FACT YOU LIVE IN THE AREA THAT IS IN QUESTION. YOU DON'T SEE ANY CONCERN OVER SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS. I ONLY SEE THEM ON SOUTH HUTCHENSON ISLAND AND THE THREE OF YOU LIVE HERE AND WE WHO PUTN FORTH PIERCE BECAUSE THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO REGULATE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE FEW THAT ARE HERE. AND YOU THINK THAT'S REAMED.

RIDICULOUS. AND FOURTH, YOU THINK ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE AREAS CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THROUGH EXISTING LAW, CODE ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA AND I THINK THAT THE TASK FORCE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER WAS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF LANDLORDS AND SOME OF THE THINGS SET FORT IN WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS RIDICULOUS. I MEAN, YOU'RE UP HERE TALKING ABOUT A ONE-HOUR RESPONSE TIME AND I'M NOT EVEN A SHORT-TERM LANDLORD. I'M A LONG-TERM LANDLORD AND I CAN'T GET CODE ENFORCEMENT. I WAS LOOKING OUT THE WOUND WINW TODAY AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE INSIGHTLY.

IT SEEMS LIKE A MASSIVE POWER GRAB BY A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE AND I THINK IT'S BEEN PROVEN TO BE NOT LEGAL.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

WHO IS NEXT? >> I'M SUSAN BAKER ON THUMB

POINT DRIVE. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, TODAY WAS THE MOST DIVERSE I'VE SEEN THIS AUDIENCE AND IT'S BECAUSE THE CHANGE OF THE NAME WAS MELANIE GEORGE AND IF THEY CHANGE THE NAME.

BUT MY THING IS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONTHS AND TIME ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND IT'S SO RIDICULOUS BECAUSE IT'S ON HUTCHENSON ISLAND AND BECAUSE OF THE AUDIENCE, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE OVER THERE. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS PROTECTED. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MIGHT NOT WANT THAT SORT OF BUSINESS PER SAY, BUT IT'S ALSO OUR HOME, OUR INVESTMENT AND WE HAVE OUR RIGHTS AND YOU BRINGING A 12-PAGE DOCUMENT IS ALL INTIMIDATION AND THAT'S ALL IT HAS BEEN TO ME. THAT'S ALL THIS IS ABOUT AND IF IT'S PASSED OR NOT, I JUST FEEL LIKE SHAME ON YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS. THANK YOU.

>> WHO IS NEXT? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. THE GENTLEMAN --

>> YOUR NAME, SIR? >> DAVE CUMMINGS AND THE

GENTLEMAN TONIGHT. >> YOUR ADDRESS, SIR?

>> THAT'S CONFIDENTIAL, I'M A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

>> THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT KNOWING WHAT SPECIFIC CODE WE'RE REFERENCING TALKING ABOUT VIOLATIONS AND SO, YOU'VE HEARD THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE ADDRESSED THE SAME ISSUE, WHICH IS THE STATE HAS A LAW THAT RESTRICTS CITIES IN VACATION RENTALS UNLESS THAT'S HAVE A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE. I'M HOPING THAT MISS REYES CAN TELL US WHAT THE CODE NUMBER IS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING AS YOUR

GRANDFATHER CLAUSE. >> SHE DOESN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS.

YOU JUST POSE THEM AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET BACK WHEN WE COME

BACK. >> CAN MR. SWEENEY DO THAT?

>> NOT NOW. >> BECAUSE THERE IS NOT, IS THE ANSWER, IS AN APPLICABLE CODE. THERE IS NO APPLICABLE CODE.

WHAT'S PROFOUND AND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN THE CITY IS OUTLANDISH. BE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN FINED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN REGULATERRED REGULATED OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE OR SIX DAYS AND THROUGH THE FREEDOM OF REGULATION ACTS AND HOW THE MEDIA IS INVOLVED AND THERE'S A SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM WHERE COMMON CITIZENS ARE IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSES PHOTOGRAPHING ME, MY

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FAMILY, MY CHILDREN AND GUESTS. AND I CAN PRESENT THAT EVIDENCE TODAY. IT'S OUTLANDISH WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE DOING AND HOW DARE YOU! TELL ME ONE DIFFERENCE, ONE SINGLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT I DO AS A SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL AND THE ONE NEXT DOOR TO ME WHICH IS LONG-TERM VACATION RENTAL? WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. THERE'S THREE OR FOUR CARS IN THEIR PARKING LOT AND NONE IN MY.

IF THEY HAVE NOISE COMPLAINTS, THEY CALL THE POLICE.

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO REALLY SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOUR LAWSUITS ARE COMING, INCLUDING MINE. BUT THE IMPACT THAT YOU'VE HAD ON YOUR CITIZENS IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

WE PAY TAXES, TOO. IT'S MY SECOND HOME AND I PAY MORE TAXES THAN THE NEXT GUY. AND IF ANYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS WHO I AM, WE'VE INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THIS CITY IN OUR REAL ESTATE. EVACUEE DONATED TENS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS TO CHARTS CHARTSU BELIEVE IN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. WE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT BEAT ON OUR DOOR ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. SURE, THEY'RE OUT AT NIGHT, MADE ANY GUESTS COME INTO THE FRONT YARD AND POSE WITH A PICTURE OF

THE VIOLATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT'S OUTLANDISH AND NEEDS TO STOP.

>> THANK YOU. >> NO, NO, NO APPLAUSE TONIGHT AND ANY SHOUTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.

THIS IS A WARNING. WE WON'T HAVE WHAT WE HAD LAST TIME. SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR -- IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, GO OUTSIDE IN THE FOYER.

>> MADAM MAYOR, JUST BRIEFLY, IT'S INCUMBENT, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, HE HAS A CURRENT ACTIVE LAWSUIT CHALLENGING OUR ORDINANCE, SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT LITIGATION. HE'S WELCOME TO MY COMMENTS, BUT

PLEASE BE ADVISED. >> YES, SIR.

>> I'M DAVE HIX, 1502 THUMBPOINT DRIVE.

THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN FORT PIERCE WANT TO LIVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO BUSINESSES WITH VARIOUS PEOPLE COMING AND GOING. ONE THING I THINK THAT'S MISSING FROM THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE SETTING UP IS INSPECTIONS AND I KNOW THERE'S A FEE AND APPLICATION.

BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE AREN'T INSPECTIONS.

WHERE I HAVE RENTAL PROPERTIES, THEY HAVE -- WHERE EVERY YEAR, THEY COME IN AND THEY WANT TO CHECK THE ELECTRIC OUTLETS AND MAKE SURE NOBODY GETS A SHOCK AND A COOLING SYSTEM WORKS WE SURE THE ADDRESS IS POSTED ON THE MAILBOX SO THAT FIRST RESPONDERS NO WHERE THEY'RE COMING.

BUT DIFFERENT THINGS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE UP.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT INTO THE FRAMEWORK.

IN ADDITION, WHEN I READ IT, I THINK THE OCCUPANCY THAT'S ALLOWED IS TO 200 FEET PER PERSON AND SO IN 2,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME, YOU CAN HAVE TEN PEOPLE.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHAT MORE RESTRICTIVE.

IN A THREE THOUSAND FOOT HOME, YOU CAN HAVE, WHAT -- SORRY, 15 PEOPLE. AND DO WE STILL -- AND TO ANSWER THAT -- NOT TO ME HOW, BUT DO WE HAVE THE EXTERIOR POSTING SO THE NEIGHBORS AND SO FORTH NO THE PERSON TO CONTACT IF ARE IS A PROBLEM? WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE HAVE THAT PROVISION OR NOT AND AT SOME POINT, COULD SOMEBODY MAKE THAT CLEAR?

>> WHO IS NEXT? >> RUSTY WEST, 411 U.S. 1 FORT

PIERCE. >> I'M CURRENTLY MANAGING OVER 2,000 RENTAL UNITS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND 37 ASSOCIATIONS AND OVER 400 VACATION RENTALS AND 120 IN THE CITY OF FORTH PIERCE LUMS. LIMITS.

I'M A THIRD-GENERATION PROPERTY MANAGER AND I CAN CATEGORICALLY TELL YOU THERE'S NOTHING YOU NEED A RESPONSE FROM A PROPERTY

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MANAGER AND THERE IS, THEY IMMEDIATE TO BE CALLING 9-1-1.

I'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING IN AN HOUR.

I HAVE 45 PROPERTY MANAGERS IN MY DIVISION AND IF I BROUGHT THEM UP HERE, NEVER HAD AN USH E TO RESPONSE TO.

WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE SERVICE IS WE HAVE THIS ISSUE COVERED REGARDLESS. HOWEVER, FOR INDIVIDUAL OWNERS, PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE AN INCOME OFF THEIR PROPERTY, CREATE WEALTH. YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THIS WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN. YOU HAVE AN ANOWNER MAKING EXA MONEY, THEY'LL GO TO BED. THE WAY I READ IT, IF SOMEBODY CALLS, THE GRASS IS TOO TALL, THEY DON'T RESPOND IN AN HOUR, THAT CREATES A PROBLEM. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. >> AND WHO IS NEXT?

>> LISA KETTLE, 1831 CRESTVIEW DRIVE.

THANK YOU FOR TALKING THE TIME TO REVIEW THIS.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS TOP TOPIC.

I WANTED TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF SECTIONS IF REGARDS TO PARKING.

I WOULD ASK THIS BE AMANNED MR PARKING SPOTS REGARDING COMMUNITY PARKING AND THAT MAY BE AN OPTION IN CERTAIN AREAS.

THERE ARE 15 DIFFERENT HOMEOWNERS AND NOT ALL, I THINK THREE THAT DON'T HAVE TEXAS DESD PARKING.

IF SOMEONE IS APPLYING, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A DESIGNATED PARKING SPOT. I WOULD JUST ASK YOU REVIEW THAT FOR CERTAIN COMMUNITIES. THE OTHER THING THAT THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP, SECTION 225009, JUST SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR RESPONSIBLE PERSON IS REGARDING TO IN REGARDS TO ANY AND ALL CALLS, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THAT THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON IS REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO CITY STAFF CODE ENFORCEMENT OR POLICE IF THERE IS AN ISSUE RATHER THAN A NEIGHBOR. WHEN DOES THAT HOUR START? IS THAT THE INITIAL PHONE CALL IN? JUST MORE CLARIFICATION WOULD MAKE OUR LIVES IN THE PROPERTY

MANAGEMENT SUED SIDE EASIER. >> WHO IS NEXT?

>> I'M KATHERINE MCCLUR, 1177 1177BAYSHORT YSHORT DRIVE.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND FOR YOUR

TIME. >> THANK YOU.

WHO IS NEXT. >> I'M BARRY DIETZ.

>> WE HAVE 105 MEMBERS OF OUR REALTOR ASSOCIATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION A COUPLE OF MENTION.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CLERK AND CITY MANAGER FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION AND COMMUNICATE GREAT ON THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYBODY SPEAK TO YET TONIGHT WAS WE SUPPORT THE STAFF POSITION OF THE $250 REGISTRATION FEE AND I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE FIRST YEAR WAS PRORATED OR NOT OR IF THEY JOINED IN AUGUST. IT WAS DUE IN SEPTEMBER AND AGAIN, MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THE ISSUES OF FLYING 395 AND THE ANY

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AND ALL CALLS. YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, A DEDICATED PERSON WHO MANAGES AND NOT USED AS A TOOL AS 4:00 A.M. BUT NEIGHBORS WHO JUST WANT YOUR HOME NOT BE ABLE TO BE RENTED.

I THINK THE INFORMATION IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE IS A GOOD IDEA. YOU THINK THAT SOME OF THE ADVERTISING ISSUES COULD BE ALSO ADDRESSED IN THAT AND FOR INSTANCE, THIS APPLIES NOT ONLY TO VRBO AND AIRBNB TYPE THINGS, BUT IT GOES FOR RENTALS THAT ARE PUT ON MLS AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS UP TO SEVERAL MONTH'S DURATION AND SOME PEOPLE, I THINK, FORGET THAT ASPECT AND RARE LIMITED WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN PUT OUT THERE ON ADVERTISING.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PUT THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TURTLES, THE DOGS AND ALL OTHER THICKS THINGS IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE IN PRINT FORM BUT IN A DIGITAL PDF FORM SO THAT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CAN GIVE THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PERSPECTIVE TENANT DURING BOOKING AND THAT DOES PROVIDE ADVANCED NOTICE WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, , SIR.

WHO IS NEXT? >> I'M ON FRANCIS COURT.

IF YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THERE MUST BE A WAY TO LET OUR NEIGHBORHOODS LIVE TOGETHER AND A MANNER THAT PROTECTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT UNDULY RESTRICTING THE OWNER.

IT'S LIKE YOUR ONE FORT PIERCE PIN ON MY BRIEFCASE.

THAT IS BY HAVING RULES AND ENFORCEMENT, CONSISTENT RULES ALL IN ONE PLACE, ALL IN THE ORDINANCE AND ALL TOGETHER AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED. THEY SAY THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER FOR THEM IF THAT ORDINANCE HAD ALL OF THE RULES IT CAN HAVE THE NOISE STATEMENT AND YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER SHEET OF PAPER IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT LISTS ALL OF THE NUMBERS THAT CAN BE CHANGED. AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS RECOMMENDED AND THEY'VE ASKED THAT ALL OF THESE BE SUMMARIZED.

WHY WOULD YOU NOT SUMMARIZE NOISE BUT THE GARBAGE PICK-UP WHICH IS NOT AN URGENT ISSUE. NOISE IS ONE OF THE URGENT ISSUES FOR CITIZENS AND ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE CONCERNS FOR THEM. AND SO, MOST NEIGHBORHOODS, AT LEAST IN SOUTH BEACH, HAVE EXPERIENCED OR ARE PRESENTLY EXPERIENCING THE NIGHTMARE VACATION RENTALS AND THIS IS NOT UNFOUNDED FEAR BUT REAL EXPERIENCE.

YOU'VE EXPERIENCED IT PERSONALLY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS BEFORE IT GOT STRAIGHTENED OUT. GRANTED, MOST RENTALS DO NOT HAVE ISSUES AND FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY ISSUES FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE TONIGHT, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES.

WE DO GET BAD OWNERS AND MANAGERS, BUT MORE OFTEN, OWNERS AND MANAGERS GET THE OCCASIONAL BAD RENTER.

THIS IS WHY AIRBNB IS SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS TO MAKE THEM GO AWAY. THEY HAVE A S.W.A.T. TEAM, A SECRETIVE SAFETY TEAM TO PREVENT PR DISASTERS.

WE, THE CITIZENS, THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LIVE IN A HOME, ARE OVER 98% IN THE SOUTH BEACH ZIP CODE.

AND WE PAY TAXES, WE ELECT THE OFFICIALS 365 DAYS A YEAR.

WE VOLUNTEER THOUSANDS OF HOURS AND WE FILL YOUR SEATS ON YOUR COMMITTEES AND BOARDS AND CLEAN UP THE BEACHES AND THE PARKS AND

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WE VOLUNTEER AT THE CENTER AND ALL OF THESE CENTERS.

AND SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS US? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M THE REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT FOR TREASURE COVE FOR THE BROWARD PAGE BEACH PALM B.

YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC ASPECT IF YOU MAKE THIS TOO DIFFICULT TO REALLY ENFORCE IT AND PUT IT FORWARD.

90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF THEM BECOME SECOND HOMES AND OWNERS AND ALSO FIRST-TIME HOMEOWNERS AND THEY MAKE THESE THEIR HOMETOWN.

IF YOU MAKE THIS TOO DIFFICULT AND PUT THE PEOPLE AWAY FROM THIS, YOU AFFECT THE CITY BECAUSE ALL OF THE TAXES, YOU GET IT FOR ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THEY SUPPORT FROM RESTAURANTS TO STORES. ALSO, THEY WILL BECOME RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND THEY WILL SPEND MONEY AND PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND TOMORROW BECOME INVESTORS AND OPEN BUSINESSES HERE.

THE WAY TO DO THIS IS -- WE UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO FIX IT AND WE UNDERSTAND TO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER.

BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK?

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

I'M AT 8126 SARATOGA WAY. YOU'VE SEEN THE CITY GROW FROM DAY ONE AND I'M A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION FROM ST. LUCY COUNTY. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S BAD APPLES IN EVERYTHING WE DO. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S OVERZEALOUS TENANTS COMING TO THE TOWN AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ARE LOOKING FOR A PROPERTY IN THIS COUNTY TO LIVE HERE AND MAKE IT THEIR HOME. WE ALL HAVE OUR LITTLE QUIRKS ABOUT OURSELVES WHEN THINGS HAPPEN AROUND OUR HAPPY AND NOT ONE IN OUR AREA. AS REALTORS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE'S 205,000. WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY IN EVERY SINGLE CITY AND TRY TO WALK THROUGH AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE SITTING ON A TASK FORCE NEXT TIME AND TO HEAR OUR INPUT, NOT TO FIGHT IT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, BUT OUR PUBLIC POLICY AND OUR PROPERTY PROTECTION IS WHAT WE LIVE FOR AND WE'RE ALWAYS HERE TO HELP THE RESIDENTS IN OUR AREA AND THANK YOU FOR SO MUCH THAT YOU DO FOR US AND SOMETIMES YOUR JOB IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

I KNOW ALL OF YOU WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR ST. LUCY

COUNTY. >> THANK YOU SO, SIR.

>> ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I AM CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE ARE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER. COMMISSION.

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS THERE, YOU HAVE SOME LOW-HANGIN' FRUIT ON ONE ITEM.

ON PAGE 6, LINE 311. I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE AND SO IT'S VERY DEFINITIVE THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF PAPER DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING IN THERE AND COULD WE ALSO MAYBE AMEND THE

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ELECTRONIC VERSION OR DIGITAL AND JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW.

>> GOOD IDEA. >> BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ARE HANDLED ELECTRONICALLY AND YOU THINK THAT WOULD SUFFICE.

THAT'S IN ADDITION. BUT BOTH.

SO DIGITAL OR A HARD COPY. >> DEPENDING ON THE WEIGHING IN

ON THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. >> MISS COX WAS SIGNALING TO ME THAT SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING.

>> NO ISSUE. >> OK.

>> NO HANGIN' FRUIT. >> WE'RE ON A ROLL.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT IT UP. IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE BROUGHT UP AND YOU HAVE A TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND BOSSED ON THE LANGUAGE, I'M MORE CONCERNED OF SMALLER UNITED.

IF YOU HAVE A 200 SQUARE FEET TYPE OF SPACE, LIKE A CONDOMINIUM TYPE OF SPACE, ONE BEDROOM, WHATEVER, THAT WOULD ONLY ALIEU ALLOW FOR ONE ANDF PERSONS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HUSBAND AND WIFE, MAYBE TWO SMALL KIDS.

THIS IS WHAT THE PLACE WILL ACTUALLY SLEEP.

>> YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT AND YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU? MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY SHALL BE ONE PERSON FOR EVERY 200 SQUARE FEET AND THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN ON SOME OF THE SMALLER TYPE UNITS OUT THERE WITH THAT ONE AND IT'S A MERE TECHNICALITY AND WE WON'T TRY TO JAM TOO MANY PEOPLE IN A SPACE THAT SMALL BUT I HAD A LITTLE TREAD TREPIDATION. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD NOT SUFFICE THAT BASED ON THOSE

NUMBERS. >> I DON'T THINK THE UNITS ARE

THAT SMALL. >> THAT WOULD BE -- I MANY,

THAT'S BASICALLY ONE ROOM. >> IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AS A RENTAL ON THE OCEAN AND THAT'S THEIR CONCERN.

>> ABOUT 800, YEAH. >> THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.

>> I WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT, MAYBE 1-100 OUT THERE, BUT THE CONCERN, WHEN THEY DON'T WANT TO GET ANYONE IN TROUBLE, THEY HAVE IT NOW AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING, HEY, JUST A SMALL TECHNICALLY AND I WANT TO RAISE THAT AND THINK ABOUT IT, OK? I'LL COME BACK. THAT WASN'T SO EASY, MADAM MAYOR. THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE.

>> SO LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT THIS GLOBALLY A LITTLE BIT.

SO IF WE AGREE ON SOMETHING TONIGHT AND WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S CHANGED SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE TO READVERTISE OR WHETHER IT CAN STAY THE SAME, THIS PROCESS IS IN PLACE AND PRESUMABLY THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS GOES AWAY. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WHEN WE HAVE THAT ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA, AS WELL.

>> RIGHT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I KNOW IT'S ON THERE AND BY THE VERY PASSING OF THAT, DOES THAT

OBVIATE THAT? >> I MEAN, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT COULD HAPPEN AND GOING BACK AND NOT WANTING TO CREATE LOOPHOPES LOOPHOLES, IF THIS WERE TO PASS TONIGHT, YOU MAKE IT EFFECTIVE AUGUST 3RD.

THE REASON I SUGGEST THAT DATE -- WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO THAT AND IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE THE NEXT DAY AND I SEE MISS COX

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AND YOU SEEN IT AND IT'S EFFECTIVE.

THE REASON WHY, WE WOULD BE HAVING THAT ON CHANGING THE CONDITIONAL USE TABLE AND WE WOULD NEED THAT ON THE AUGUST 2ND READING AND YOU WOULD SUSPECT IF ALL OF THESE CARDS ARE FALLING AND THE DOMINOES ARE GOING IN THE DIRECTION YOU'RE ELUDING TO, THE SEC READING ON AUGUST 2ND, CHANGING THE USE TABLE, EVERYTHING WOULD HAPPEN CONTEMPORANEOUS ON AUGUST 3RD AUGUST 3RD AND THAT

PRESUPPOSING HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. >> IF THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS GOES AWAY, WE CAN NEVER GET IT BACK.

>> YES, I THINK THAT IS FOREGONE 100% CONCLUSION.

>> AND IT'S ALSO A PROCESS THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND THIS IS NOW A REGISTRATION PROCESS AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT IS THAT 2014 LAW THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THAT TOOK BACK SOME OF THE -- IN THE 2011, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A A RESTRICTIVE LAW AND REALIZED THEY DID THINGS THAT WERE UNINTENTIONAL IS WHAT I READ FOR THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

AND SO, THIS FORMATION OF THIS ORDINANCE WAS -- ON THE ORDINANCES THAT FED INTO THIS WERE PASSED AFTER 2014.

>> YES. >> AND SO, THE LEGALITY OF US HAVING THIS PROCESS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS A VERY VALID WAY DO THIS AND WE THOUGHT THE CONDITIONAL USE WAS A GOOD PROCESS. AND BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE SAID YOU CANNOT REGULATE FOR DURATION, FREQUENCY AND THEN THEY SAID LOCATION. AND SO, THOSE THREE THINGS MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE RESIDENTS LIVE WHO HAVE LIVED THERE A LONG TIME IN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL HARMONY AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WELCOME OUR VISITORS.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TELL ME DIFFERENTLY, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE AND THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

I MEAN, BECAUSE WE WILL STILL HAVE ALL OF THE HUGE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF TIME THAT IS SPENT ON US TRYING TO WADE THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATIONS. PLUS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALSO, IF WE GET RID OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, IT WILL ELIMINATE THE PROTECTION FROM THE E1 ZONING.

THIS IS INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. THERE ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE SHARED THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH ME.

AND SO, WHATEVER WE DO TONIGHT, IT WON'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND IT WON'T SOLVE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS. WE CANNOT COME UP WITH A PERFECT SYSTEM, BUT WE CAN COME UP WITH THE CLOSEST SYSTEM WE CAN TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW AND SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC PROPERTY OWNERS AND TO TRY TO KEEP OUR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS SAFE AND RETAIN THEIR CHARACTER.

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT IF YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU AND YOU HAVR THE MOST PART, A CALM RESIDENTIAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT, IF YOU HAVE 25 OR 30, EVENTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD, YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE UNTIL IT'S WAY TOO LATE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE TO FOLLOW THE LAW, PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND KEEP THE CHARACTER OF OUR CITY AND ALSO WELCOME PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR VISITORS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU THERE.

THIS WAS A PROCESS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF TO DO RESEARCH AND BRING US INFORMATION AND I SAID THIS LAST MEETING, TOO, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT OUR GRANDFATHERED CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS FROM 2001, PUT IT ON THE RECORD, IN THE MINUTES, IS A PROCESS THAT WE NEEDED TO UPDATE AND CHANGE, 20 YEARS OLD, AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO DO THAT.

AND WE HAVE PUT FORTH THIS EFFORT TO DO SUCH A THING.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND -- I UNDERSTAND THE RULES THE STATE HAS IMPOSED UPON US IN THE LAST TEN YEARS IN 2011 AND MODIFIED. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE TRYING TO MESH THAT TOGETHER AS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, YOU KNOW, TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IS NECESSARY. NECESSARY BASED ON THE FEEDBACK OF THE FOLKS THAT SPEAK TO US TO US AS TOURISTS AND LOOKING AT ALL OF IT AND BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT WE INITIAL INITIATED TH. SOME FOLKS SEEM TO FORGET IT.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE SITUATION.

WHETHER IT'S A PROCESS AMENDMENT OR IT'S SOMETHING TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION MORE BEARABLE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

I AGREE WITH YOU, MA'AM. THE OTHER FACT IS, AND I MADE NOTE OF IT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A FEW MEETINGS AGO IS THAT A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT ARE POPULAR, NOT JUST THE ISLAND, BUT WE'VE OFF PROVED OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THE MAINLAND AND A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT THIS ATTRACTIVENESS IS COMING TO PLAY IS IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOUNDARIES.

AS A MISSION STATEMENT IN THE BOUNDARY THAT TALKS ABOUT BUILDING AFFORDSABLE AFFOS THAT ARE NOT SO GREAT AND THAT'S A PART OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS. WE MET AS THIS PREDEVELOPMENT AGENCY EARLIER TONIGHT AND HERE WE'RE MEETING AS A CITY COMMISSION TO PULL THIS TOGETHER.

SO FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE UPSET, WE ASK FOR THIS PUN THIS PI GUESS. I'M PROUD DO IT AND I THINK THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITIES. SOMEONE MENTIONED A FEE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE.

THE ADVERTISING, SO I HEARD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ADVERTISING AND THAT'S ITEM 449. I'LL GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF BROCHURE, THE SUMMARY ELEMENT AND I MEAN, YOU CAN HANDLE THAT KIND OF STUFF IN CONTRACTS, I BELIEVE.

WHEN YOU SIGN YOUR RENTAL AGREEMENT OR LEASE AGREEMENT, HERE ARE REGULATIONS FROM THE LOCAL AUTHORITIESAND THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THAT CAN BE INCLUDED.

>> BUT YOU HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE PROPERTY MANAGER, THE

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CONTRACTUAL MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

>> YES, WE DO. I DON'T KNOW -- I'M JUST STUCK ON ALL ADVERTISING AND I MENTION THIS.

YOU CAN ADVERTISE ANYWHERE, YOU TRULY CAN, IN A BROCHURE, ONLINE. IS IT THE BEST FIT AND FORMAT? WE HEARD THAT TONIGHT. THERE MAY BE A LIMITATION.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE WORKED ON AND I'M NOT STUCK ON THE ALL ADVERTISING, EVERY SINGLE PIECE, BUT YOU I THINK IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. AND HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THAT, I GUESS IS WHERE MY QUESTION GOES.

>> YES, SIR. THAT WAS EXACTLY IT.

WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THAT WHOLE SECTION AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED COMMENT FROM STAFF IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ON 449, A REFERENCE TO UNIT REGULATIONS AS FOUND IN CHAPTER 22, ARTICLE 10.

THAT COULD BE ONE LINE OR 200 LINES AND I HAVE NO IDEA.

I SHOULD HAVE A SEMBLANCE. I HAVE TO IDEA.

A REFERENCE TO SEA TURTLE PROTECTIONS AND THAT MAY BE

SMALL. >> YOU DON'T INTEND FOR THAT

WHOLE SECTION TO BE PUT IN? >> HOW WOULD THEY KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET IT? I JUST WANTED CLARITY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING, BUT IF IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING, WE

NEED TO BE CLEARER. >> SO WE TALKED ABOUT LIMITING LANGUAGE PARTS AND REFERENCING CITY CODE SECTIONS AND WHAT IF WE JUST SAID, CITY CODE SHALL BE FOLLOWED ON ALL PROPERTIES? I MEAN, THAT'S INTUITIVE AND COMMON SENSE, BUT DOES THAT

COVER IT? >> WELL, THE INTENT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BEFORE YOU PUT THE FIRST DOLLAR TO SAY I'M COMING TO FORT PIERCE, YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE INTENDING TO BRING YOUR PET AND HAVE A WEDDING, THAT WAS MY

UNDERSTANDING. >> I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

WE REFERENCE DOPES DOMESTIC L REGULATION REGULAR REGULATIONS, WE PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, YOU DIDN'T KNOW AND YOU SIGN WHAT YOU SIGN AND THAT'S WHY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IT.

>> I AGREE THAT I GO BACK TO ENFORCEMENT AND TO THINK ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT. IF IT'S IN THE AD, YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED. IF YOU HAVE A VEHICLE FOR IT AND ENFORCEMENT HAS A DIFFICULT TIME AND UNLESS THERE'S AN ISSUE, GO BACK AND SEE THE DOCUMENTS AND I'M GUESSING THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE ADVERTISEMENT. SO IF YOU FIX SOMETHING, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT DENY -- THEYN

DETERMINE IT WAS COMPLIED. >> MADAM MAYOR, I WAS JUST SAYING, I GUESS I SHOULD KNOW ALL OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THOSE SECTIONS ARE. BUT WE'RE ASKING TO PUT THAT

SOME PLACE IN THE ATTACHMENTS. >> YOU ARE SAYING YOU'LL THINK THEY'LL PUT THE WHOLE THING IN THE AD?

>> I AM. >> IT SAYS THE ADVERTISEMENT

SHALL INCLUDE. >> MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION IN.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE CONTINUOUSLY IN THE PAST IS WHAT WILL DETERMINE THE CODE NEIGHBORHOOD BROCHURE AND THAT SUMMARIZES, YOU KNOW, THE PET REGULATIONS AND IT COULD BE THE SEA TURTLE REGULATIONS AND ALL OF THOSE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE WANT THEM TO KNOW. AND INTO MAYBE INSTEAD OF ITEMIZING THE REFERENCES, THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE A LINKER LIE GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BROCHURE. THIS IS OUR DETERMINE AUGUSTS O

WHAT IS IN THAT. >> MADAM MAYOR?

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>> YES. >> THIS IS WHAT I READ.

THIS TELLS US IN THIS CODE, YOU MUST INCLUDE THE RECEIPT NUMBER, THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY LIMIT AND IT TELLS US THIS.

IT SHALL INCLUDE IT AND LISTS FIVE THINGS TO INCLUDE IN THAT S ADVERTISEMENT. IF THERE ARE HYPERLINKS AND IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME.

I WANT THE INFORMATION THERE AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU HYPERLINKS THROUGH THE SECTIONS, I JUST WANT THAT IN DETAIL.

>> I AGREE WITH THE CITY CLERK THAT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE CAN ALL GO INTO A SINGLE LINK TO OUR GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BROCHURE AND THE RECEIPT NUMBER SHOULD BE IN THE NUMBER BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES A LEGAL RENTAL, BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE CLERK THAT ALL -- THE REST OF THE PARAGRAPH, THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY, AS WELL AS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE COULD BE CONDENSED INTO A SINGLE LINK INTO OUR BROCHURE AND YOU MAKE

IT A HAR HARD COPY AND SINGLE. >> IT SHOULD INCLUDE A LINK

PROVIDED BY THE CITY. >> FINE WITH THAT.

I CAN WORK WITH THAT. >> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IS IGNORANCE, NO EXCUSE OF THE LAW. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, ALL ARE CHARGED WITH KNOWING THE LAWS, WHERE WE GO, WHETHER WE GO TO THE KEYS, WHETHER WE GO TO WASHINGTON, D.C., NEW YORK CITY, AND, YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF TRYING TO BE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY, BUT IF ONE OF THESE THINGS, THE TURTLE LIGHTING IS VIEW VI VI VE PROBLEM WILL BE BETWEEN THE LANDLORD, RENTER AND TENANT. SO I KNOW THAT THIS IS A DELICATE BALANCE AS THE MAYOR ELUDED TO, BUT NONE OF US GET TO SAY, I NEVER READ THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE AT ANY POINT IN

OUR LIFE. >> THAT'S FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

>> EASY COMPROMISE. >> ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN ASKED ABOUT THE POSTING OUTSIDE AND WE ELIMINATED THAT.

AND IF THAT WAS STILL IN AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE DID.

MY REASONING, I WAS FOR THE POSTING AND MY WAS INFLUENCED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT -- THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SAID THAT MIGHT BE SOME KIND OF SAFETY SITUATION AND SO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION

WILL STILL BE INSIDE THE UNIT. >> AND ACCESSIBLE ONLY ON THE

WEBSITE. >> MISS COX, WHERE IS THAT ON

THE WEBSITE? >> IT IS IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON CLICK TO GO YORK. V.

>> YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON THE NUMBER, PROPERTY ADDRESS AND BY

THE NAME. >> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYPLACE OR SEE SHORT-TERM OR VACATION RENTAL.

>> THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC RECORD'S PORTAL.

>> IT'S ON THE CITY CLERK WEBSITE AND I THINK IT SAYS SEARCH FOR BUSINESS AND YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH THAT AND THE OWNER'S NAME AND ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER, AS WELL AS THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON IS THERE AND AVAILABLE AND IT'S THERE TODAY.

>> SO THAT CONTENTS CONTENE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IN THE

PUBLIC? >> YES.

>> AND IF IT ISN'T POSTED OUTSIDE BUT INSIDE, IT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WAY?

>> CORRECT. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES. >> I HEARD SOMETHING ELSE AND CONCERNING PARKING AND SOME OF THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS AND WHAT'S OFF SIGNED ASSIGNET ASSIGNED.

>> I HAD THAT MARKED, ALSO. >> ONE MOMENT.

DO WE KNOW THAT NUMBER? >> 179.

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>> IF THEY CAN PROVIDE A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE ASSIGNED PARKING, AS AN ISSUING OFFICER, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT NOT TO SHOW THE PARKING PLACES.

IF THERE IS NO DESIGNATED PARKING, THEN WE CAN'T MAKE THEM

HAVE DESIGNATED PARKING. >> YOU SEE THIS DIFFICULTLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, SOME OF THE HOA'S THEY SELF-GOVERN THEMSELVES. SO, I'M LIKE, WHY IS IN OUT HERE TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT AND HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT? HOW DOES CODE WALK AROUND A HUGE PARKING LOT IN THE OCEAN VILLAGE TO SEE WHO IS PARKED AND LOST AND PARKED THERE AND VISITING FOR AN HOUR OR TWO? I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THIS ONE AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PART OF THIS.

YOU MAY BE MISSING THIS AND OVERSIMPLIFYING IT.

>> IMUS MISS REYES? >> I BELIEVE THIS IS MORE OF A

LINDA COX ISSUE. >> BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE PROVIDED TO HER ON THE REVIEW SIDE AND THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT YOUR UNIT WILL HAVE AND THAT, AGAIN, OUR THOUGHT WAS SAYING, ONE ASSIGNED PARKING AND FOUR SHARED BY THE WHOLE COMPLEX AND YOU CAN'T HAVE FIVE PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE YOU'RE ONE PLUS FOUR OPENED FOR GUESTS. A GOOD POINTS POINT THERE'ST DON'T HAVE ANY AND SAW YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO SPOTS AND SO, THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAVE WAS SPECTACULAR SIMILAR TO SUN LINDA, IF THERE IS TO ASSIGNED, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF A SUBMITTAL PLAN.

>> I WOULD ISSUE. >> OK.

>> PRETTY SIMPLE. I LIKE SIMPLE.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING I HEARD, MADAM MAYOR.

AND I THINK STAFF WOULD HELP US TO UNDERSTAND THIS AS FAR AS GRANDFATHERING PEOPLE WITH CONDITIONAL USE AND IS THAT A LATER DISCUSSION OR A PART OF THIS?

IT CAME UP TONIGHT. >> IT'S PART OF THIS.

>> SO THE PROCESS AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID EARLIER, WE STEPPED INTO THIS TO MAKE IT SIMPLER AND STREAMLINE IT AND REDUCE THE COSTS. AND PEOPLE HAVE GIVING US NUMBERS TO PAY FOR THE CONDITIONAL PERMITS AND THIS

LOWERS THE THRESHOLD. >> WE HAVEN'T SET THE FEE YET.

>> PROPOSED FEE AND THAT'S OUT THERE AND THE PUBLIC SPACE.

>> CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE PAID, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> I'VE HEARD CONCERNS, BUT I WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT AND WHAT DID THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HEAR? BECAUSE I HEARD ONE THING.

>> THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS THAT WANT TO BE GRANDFATHERED IS WHAT

I HEARD. >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE LATER ON IN THIS DOCUMENT, IT'S IN THIS DOCUMENT ABOUT HOW THEY ARE BROUGHT INTO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

>> IN SO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BN REFERRING TO THIS AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT'S NOT A PERMIT, BUT A ZONING PROCESS. AND I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE US TO REALLY GO INTO A GRANDFATHERING STATE BECAUSE HONESTLILY, THAT WAS A ZONING PROCESS WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL REMOVE THE NEED FOR

THIS PROCESS. >> THIS VIOLATES WHAT THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED US. IF WE WERE TO CHANGE, YOU CANNOT BOSS IT ON ZONING AND SO THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO KEEP THE ZONING ARE NOW GOING TO BE IN VIEW LUGGAGES VIOLATION OF WHAT THE STATE SAID YOU CANNOT DO.

IF WE CHANGE IT, WE CHANGE IT FOR ALL.

THE STATE HAS SAID, BASED ON FREQUENCY, DURATION AND LOCATION

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AND SAME IDEA. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO ENACT SOMETHING THAT IMMEDIATELY VIOLATES STATE STATUTE.

THAT DOESN'T ADD ONE PLUS ONE FOR ME.

>> AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND SO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS DOES NOT DO THAT. AND REPLACES THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS AND BECOMES A REGISTRATION PROCESS.

>> HAVE I GOT THAT RIGHT? >> THE OTHER ASPECT IS FISCAL, YOU KNOW, WE AS LOCAL LEGISLATORS CHANGES FEE ARRANGEMENTS, FEE STRUCTURING, AND SOMETIMES WE ELIMINATE AND MOST TIMES IT INCREASES, UNFORTUNATELY.

AND YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ON THAT. I'M USUALLY ANTI, TRYING TO RAISE EVERYTHING AND THAT'S A PROCESS.

DRIVERS LICENSE REGULATIONS CHANGE AND WHEN YOU GET YOUR TAG, TAG FEES AND THOSE CHANGE. THIS IS ALL A PART OF IT.

AND THERE WAS A DEFINED BENEFIT FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT CAME IN AND GOT THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE AND THEY'VE ENJOYED THAT BENEFIT UP UNTIL THE LEGISLATION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CHANGES AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> SOMEONE BROUGHT UP ABOUT DVPR, THAT THESE ARE LICENSED BUT DVPR OR PERMITTED AND WHAT IS THE CORRECT TYPE.

>> THOSE ARE LESS THAN 30 DAYS ARE LICENSED.

>> WE'RE DOING BOTH WITH THIS ORDINANCE, BOTH OF THOSE.

>> CORRECT. >> AND WE CAN DO THIS AND MUNICIPALITIES DO DO THIS. JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A REGISTRATION PROCESS DOES NOT PRECLUDE US FROM HAVING A

REGISTRATION PROCESS. >> CORRECT.

AND YOU THINK COMMISSIONER PERONA HAS BEEN REMINDING US AND I AM CONVINCED THAT THE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO BE REALLY KEY AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN KEY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. SOME ARE EVEN IN OCEAN VILLAGE.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO WITH THE FEE IS MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE OR THE ENFORCEMENT AND THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE ON THIS DOCUMENT? ONE MORE ON LINE 170, EGRESS AND THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION OF THE SAFE PROPERTIES, IS WHAT I READ THIS AS, MEANS OF EGRESS AND THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> THAT'S FIRE CODE. >> YES.

>> AND I THINK IF THE DISCUSSS NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT LIGHTS ON YOUR STAIRRUNNERS BUT A STAIRWAY NEEDS SOME SORT OF LOOT AND LUTE LIGHT AND IT COULD BE IN THE

CEILING. >> MR. PERONA.

>> WE TOOK THESE IDEAS FROM A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AND THREW THEM INTO THE BOX AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE A PERFECT DOCUMENT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

BUT WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND FIX IT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR FORT PIERCE.

ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS, IT WAS PAINFUL AND I DON'T THINK IT WORKED WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE OUR HANDS WERE TIED. I THINK COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON HIT IT ON THE HEAD BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY AMENDED THAT WHOLE ZONING ISSUE A LONG TIME AGO TO ELIMINATE R1 AND R2.

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THIS WAS NOT A PART OF THE -- IF R1 AND R2 WAS NOT A PART THIS, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE.

WE WOULD WORK FOUR WELL WITH. IT'S SPACED OUT AND CHECKERED THROUGHOUT ALL OF SOUTH BEACH AND ALL OF FORT PIERCE HAS THESE ZONING DESIGNATIONS, BUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN OUR LANE AND DO THE THINGS WE CAN.

AND WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT, EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND SET UP ENFORCEMENT.

AS YOU SAY, MAYOR, TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORS AND TO PROHIBIT E PROPERTY OWNERS, ALSO.

SO THIS IS A VERY GRAND TASK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE AND WE'LL MAKE A MISTAKE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE.

BUT IT'S A MISTAKE WE CAN FIX. WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD.

>> SO MISS COX, HAVE YOU RECAPPED WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO

FAR? >> YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IF I MAY, I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT I HAVE. AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU MADE A FINAL DECISION, BUT ON LINE 176, THE LOCAL PHONE SERVICE.

ONE LAND LINE OR TELEPHONE OR, D SOME OF YOUR CONVERSATION WAS, THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY CALL AND SO, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE ON THAT AND THE WAY IT READS NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE A CELL PHONE PROVIDED.

IT'S NOT A BRING-YOUR-OWN KIND OF A DEAL.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A SPECIFIC CHANGE TO THAT.

>> STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND DELETING THAT LAST LINE IN THE COMMON AREA, SHALL BE AVAILABLE, PERIOD.

AND IT DOESN'T SAY -- >> DOESN'T SAY WHO PROVIDES IT.

>> BUT IF I MAY, MAYOR. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BROUGHT UP THE WORDS PHONE MAY NOT BE RELATIVE.

>> MAY BE DATED ALREADY. >> THE LAND LINE IS NOT OR CELLULAR AND COMES IN VIA AIRWAVES AND THOSE TWO MEAN THE

SAME THING. >> IT COMES UNDERGROUND.

>> IT MEANS WE DELETE THE LAST SENTENCE, AT LEAST ONE LAND LINE OR THE LOCAL EMERGENCY NUMBER, PERIOD.

>> I'M GOOD. >> YOU OK?

>> YOU MAY HAVE TO REVISIT THIS SOMETIME.

>> I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT A LOT.

>> YOU HAVE TO DOUBT. >> DID YOU HEAR WHAT WE'RE

DOING? >> A LAND LINE --

>> WE'RE JUST TAKING OUT LINE 178.

>> THANK YOU. >> PROCEED.

>> NEXT I HAVE LINE 311, A LEGIBEL HAR COPY HARD COPYL

UNIT OCCUPANT? >> YES.

>> I DON'T KNOW YOU MADE A CHANGE TO THE ONE-HOUR TIMELINE AND I THINK WE'VE EXPLAINED REPEATEDLY WHAT THE ONE-HOUR

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MEANS AND THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST BE STAFF THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT IT. ULTIMATELY, IT WILL GO TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

I WANT TO GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE. >> ANYWAYS FINE WITH ME.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. >> AND 452 REGARDING ADVERTISEMENT, ADVERTISEMENT SHALL INCLUDE A LINK TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> WHICH WILL CONTAIN ALL OF THIS STUFF.

>> AND WE CAN ADJUST THIS AS NECESSARY.

>> IT'S A BETTER SOLUTION. >> AND ALSO, BASED ON MR. SWEENEY'S RECOMMENDATION, THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE EFFECTIVE ON THE 3RD DAY OF AUGUST, 2021.

>> THE NOISE AND THE FIREWORKS. >> AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT

WENT. >> I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT,

TOO. >> BECAUSE I WAS THINKING THAT WOULD BE IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE.

>> ALSO DOMESTICATED ANIMALS, DID YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE IN

THE GOOD NEIGHBOR BROCHURE. >> YES.

>> REFERENCES WOULD REMAIN. >> ROUTE.

RIGHT. >> AS THEY ARE NOW.

>> THE REFERENCE IN THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE ALL DOMESTICATED IN THE RENTAL UNIT WILL COMPLY WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCE AND THAT LANGUAGE WILL REMAIN.

>> I KNOW PEGGY IS -- >> I'M OF A DIFFERENT OPINION.

>> SHE WANTS THAT TO INCLUDE UNDER -- PROOF OF VACCINATIONS SHALL BE INCLUDED TO CITY STAFF IF REQUESTED AND THE FIREWORKS, WE COULD LEAVE THAT 24-HOUR PERIOD IN THERE.

>> LET ME ASK A QUESTION SO I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT. LET'S SAY WE HAVE A CASE, DOG BITE. AND WHAT DO WE DO TO TRACK THOSE

RECORDS. >> IF YOU'RE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A RABIES CERTIFICATE, I IMPOUNDED THE DOG FOR TEN DAYS.

>> YOU HAVE HAD A EXPERIENCE? >> WE DO.

>> I'M RECOMMENDING THAT CERTIFICATE BE AVAILABLE TO I WON'T TAKE YOUR DOG FOR TEN DAYS.

IT WOULD BE SHORT-TERM. >> WE'RE DOING THIS TO MAKE A MORE PLEASURABLE EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY AND IF YOU HAVE THAT RABIES CERTIFICATE WITH YOU, YOU CAN GET IT ON YOUR PHONE PARTNERSHIP HAVE MY DOG'S REGISTRATION ON MY PHONE.

IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THEN ANIMAL CONTROL WILL NOT IMPOUNDED YOUR DOG. THAT'S WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES

ME TO DO. >> THE STATE REQUIRES THAT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> YES.

>> WHAT LINE IS THIS? >> THIS IS --

>> 354. >> SO IT'S NOT REQUIRING A REGISTRATION AND NOT REQUIRING ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO HAVE THE INFORMATION WITH YOU. IF YOU BRING YOUR DOG, BRING YOUR RABIES CERTIFICATE. THAT'S ALL MY RECOMMENDATION

SAYS. >> YOU WANT THAT LANGUAGE ADDED

TO THIS LINE, RIGHT. >> YES.

>> COULD YOU PUT THAT UP? >> ACTUALLY, IT WAS IN THERE AND WE TOOK IT OUT, SO IT'S LINE 258.

IT SAYS RENNERS MUST PROVIDE UPON REQUEST BY ANY CITY OR COUNTY OFFICIAL A COPY OF PROOF OF VALID RABIES CERTIFICATE AND

THAT IT STAYS. >> LET ME GO BACK TO MY QUESTION. WE HAVE A CASE, A DOG BITE CASE AND WE'RE SEARCHING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THIS ANIMAL AND THE OWNER, ME, LET'S JUST USE ME, TRYING TO FIND MY INFORMATION AND MY PHONE TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE GOT HIDDEN IN MY PHONE SOMEWHERE. IS THERE A TIME PERIOD? IS IT WHILE WE'RE THERE TRYING TO CONTROL THE ANIMAL AND ON SITE AND ADDRESSING THE USH AND. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE TO PUT

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IT IN THE CODE IF THE STATE REQUIRES YOU TO TAKE THE ANIMAL AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO, I'M OK WITH THAT. I MEAN, IT'S WHATEVER THE FREQUENCY IS OF DOG BITES OR DOMESTICATED ANIMAL ISSUES, I DON'T KNOW, WHY ADD THAT AND WHY DO I HAVE TO GO ON VACATION AND BRING MY SHEET? IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON EVACUATION, I'LL EVACUATION, I'LL VACATION, I'LL HAVE TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTATION.

THAT WILL HAPPEN THE SAME WAY. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

>> SAME STATUTE IS WHAT YOU SAID.

>> COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU SAYING THE SAME ORDINANCE, WHY IS IT IN THERE OR QUESTIONING WHERE? BECAUSE I TEND TO SAY WE PUT OTHER INFORMATION TO INFORM PEOPLE, RIGHT, THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE TO BRING YOUR RABIES VACCINATION TO KEEP US FROM IMPOUNDING YOUR DOG. YOUR DOG BIT SOMEBODY AND YOU DON'T HAVE PAPERS AND NOW WE'LL TAKE YOUR DOG AND MAKE YOU MORE EMOTIONAL AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE. IF IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE, WE NEED TO . IT'S A STATE STATUTE.

>> IT'S IN CHAPTER 6, ANIMALS. AND PEGGY JUST WANTED TO ELABORATE MORE. I DON'T DISAGREE AND I'M WONDERING IS THE SCENARIO WON'T BE THE SAME AT THE END OF THE DAY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN ISSUE AND YOU'LL SEE SAY THANK YOU, SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS. YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN ANYWAY. AS SOON AS THERE'S AN ISSUE, THAT WILL BE TRIGGERED, WHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS?%

>> YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT IT IN THERE.

>> I KNOW IT'S IN CHAPTER 6. AND PEGGY PEGGY JUST ASKING E HIGHLIGHTED SECTION TO BE REISSUED.

>> AND THE SAME FOR THE FIREWORKS?

>> WITH THE FORTH PIERCE CODE AND THAT CHAPTER DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE 24 HOURS AND THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR NEW YEAR'S DAY.

THAT'S A STATE STATUTE AND THIS IS BY TAKING OUT THE 24-HOUR PERIOD, DECEMBER 31ST, YOU'RE REMOVING THE STATE STATUTE PART

IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. >> BUT OUR CODE HAS A LIMITATION

OR NO? >> OUR CITY CODE DOES NOT HAVE THE PROVISION FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY AND NEW NEW YEAR'S EVE.

>> WHAT DOES IT SAY? >> IT DOESN'T SAY MUCH.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER IT SAYING MUCH.

>> PROHIBITS THE USE OF FIREWORKS IN GENERAL.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. >> THEN THE STATE STATUTE ALLOWS

FOR EXEMPTION OF FOURTH OF JULY. >> I DON'T SEE WHAT IT HURTS TO

HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE. >> BUT FOR THE FIREWORKS AS WELL

AS THE RABIES, IT DOESN'T HURT. >> MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY.

THAT STATE STATUTE JUST CHANGED THAT YEAR, LITERALLY JUST CHANGED UNDER OUR NEW GOVERNOR AND ADDED, THINK, THREE DAYS, FOURTH OF JULY, NEW YEAR'S EVE AND HA IS TO SAY THE STATE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T SAY MEMORIAL DAY AND LABOR DAY WILL BE ADDED? MY POINT WITH THIS LANGUAGE DEFAULTED WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCE AND FLORIDA STATUTES, WE'RE COVERED AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY, WE FORGOT TO ADD MEMORIAL DAY AND WE FORGOT

VALENTINE'S DAY. >> I'LL GO ALONG WITH THAT.

>> GOING BACK TO THE DOMESTICATED ANIMALS.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERY STATE AND I'LL DEFER TO PEGGY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERY STATE REQUIRES DOGS AND CATS TO BE VACCINATED FOR RAIN BEES Y OF VISITORS AND MAYBE THEY AREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE A VACS VACCINATED ANIMAL IN GEORGIA OR LOUISIANA, BUT WHEN THEY BRING THEIR ANIMAL HERE, THEY'RE

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SUBMITTING THEMSELVES TO OUR JURISDICTION AND THEY WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IS FEEL COMFORTABLE, THEY WILL BRING THEIR RABIES TAG AND PEGGY CAN MAYBE CROSS-REFERENCE CR THERE'S AN INCIDENT, THE DOG OR CAT WILL BE TAKEN AWAY.

SO THIS WILL BE OBVIATED, MY CHIHUAHUA -- IT'S ON THE TAG AND I WOULD SUGGEST THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD STARTING POINTS. AND IN SIX MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS OR A YEAR THERE NOW, YOU FIND THIS IS A PROBLEM AMEND

THAT. >> PEOPLE THAT OWN PETS ARE A PART OF THE FAMILY AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE THIS ANYWAY AND YOU'RE NOT GOING THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER BUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE A PET OWNER AND I'M SURE IF VERY A MAGAZINE CALLED, YOU KNOW, VACATION RENTALS, IN THERE, THEY TELL YOU, THESE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS TO PREPARE YOURSELF.

AND I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD JUST HAVE THE ONE SENTENCE IN THERE AND LET THIS ALL FALL WHERE IT FALLS.

>> MAYOR. >> THERE HAS BEEN VALUABLE INPUT AND I'M TRYING TRYING TO GOY NOTES AND WE'RE NOT ADDING

ANYTHING BACK IN. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IN YOUR POINT OF VIEW, THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE YET.

>> THERE IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SUDDENLY CHANGING AND TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME ASPECT OF THE BUILDING CODE AND SOME TOTALLY SEPARATE AREA OF THE LAW.

THIS HAS BEEN PUBLICALLY NOTICED AND BEEN AVAILABLE FOR

DIGESTION. >> YOU ONLY HAVE TWO MORE

EARMARKED OR ASTERICKED. >> I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY

THAT. >> AND I NEED CLARITY.

>> SO DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR LINE 185?

>> UNLESS DEMONSTRATED WITH -- THIS WILL DEAL WITH HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS AND UNLESS DOCUMENTATION IS RECEIVED THAT THERE ARE NO ASSIGNED PARKING SPACES OR DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES, WHATEVR OUR TERM IS, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND YOU THINK THAT HELPS THE SITUATION.

>> IF IT DOESN'T IMPLY THAT. >> IF THAT WASN'T IN THERE AT ALL, I DON'T -- I'M TRYING TO ENVISION A SITUATION WHERE THAT WOULD COME UP AND MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ARE

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NATIONALLY GOING TO HAVE SHARED PARKING AND IT'S A SELF-POLICING THING. IF THIS ISN'T SOME FORM GOVERNING IT LIKE HARBOR ISLE, LIKE TOWNHOMES WHERE THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE GOVERNED IN SOME CAPACITY ALREADY.

>> AND I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE. IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND TELLS ME THEY DON'T HAVE ASSIGNED PARKING PLACES, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE SAYING OK, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE IT BASED ON SHOW ME YOUR DOCUMENTATION AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE APPLICATION AND THE REGISTRATION PROCESS THAT WE WOULD KEEP ON FILE. IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, WE CAN ADD THAT LINE, UNLESS DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED, DEMONSTRATING THERE

IS NO ASSIGNED PARKING PLACES. >> FINE WITH ME.

>> AND YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO GO NEXT.

AVOIDING. >> WELL, I'VE HEARD THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THIS MIGHT BE OFF ABUSED BUT PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE WANTING TO ELIMINATE IT SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT IS NEXT TO THEM OR WHATEVER AND I'VE HEARD THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WOULD EVEN BE STUBBLE E TO ABUSE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED, THAT WHATEVER WAS REPORTED WOULD HAVE TO BE PLAYED OUT BY EITHER THE POLICE OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR WHATEVER. SO I JUST DON'T SEE PEOPLE MAKING A LOT OF ABUSE LATEN CALLS UNLESS ALCOHOL OR SUBSTANCES ARE INVOLVED, AND SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS.

I SEE WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY LITTER THE PARK AT NIGHTTIME AND I SEE WHAT THEY THROW ON THE GRASS AND WHAT THEY FIND ACCEPTABLE LATE AT NIGHT AND THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING. SO WHATEVER REVELRY THEY'RE INVOLVED IN MAKES IT CHANGE. SO IT'S ALL OF THE WHAT-IF SCENARIOS. SO JUST BECAUSE I CALL AND COMPLAIN ABOUT A PARTY ACROSS THE STREET, IT DOESN'T MEAN I EXPECT THAT HOMEOWNER TO CALL ME BACK.

THE BECAUSE THIS IS WRITTEN, DOES IT MAKE THAT HOMEOWNER CALL ME BACK? HOW DO THEY EVEN KNOW I CALLED OR UNLESS I CALLED THEM DIRECTLY.

>> USUALLY IT CAUSE TOO LOUD AND THEY DIDN'T HEAR IT.

>> LET'S SAY I CALLED THE PROPERTY OWNER AND I CALLED --

>> THE RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY. >> -- THE RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY, THAT THEY RESPONDED TO ME AND I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THE TALES OF THE OFF ABUSE OF THE SYSTEM TO WHERE THERE'S AN ISSUE TO WHERE THERE'S AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT RESOLVED AND NOT JUST THAT NIGHT. THAT NATE, NIGHT, IF IT'S NOT RESOLVED, I'M CALLING 9-1-1 AND NOT AN EMERGENCY NUMBER, BUT THIS IS AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART AND YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO RESPOND AND THAT'S WHERE I'LL GO. I THINK ANY REASONABLE PERSON

WILL GO THAT ROUTE ALSO. >> YES, SIR.

>> OBVIOUSLY I HAVE SOME DISCOMFORT WITH THIS, TOO, AND FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT THAN YOU STOP THEN I STOP MYSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL AND THIS IS ONE OF THE SHARPEST TEETH AND I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THAT.

I WOULD RATHER LEAVE IT IN AND FIND OUT IF THERE'S A PROBLEM.

WE MAY HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ON WHAT

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OUR INTENT WAS, BUT WE START MAKING THIS A LIMIT BIT MORE CALMER AND WE ARE GOING TO NOT DO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD SET OUT TO DO AND THAT IS TO GIVE SOME FORM OF GUARANTEES, AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLE POSSIBT THE RENTALS EXIST IN AND SAY YOU WILL HAVE PERCEPTIONS TO FIX AND WE'LL MAKE SURE AND THIS IS THE ONE RIGHT THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN REWORD THAT AND STILL HAVE THE BIG TOOTH COMING OUT OF WHAT WE'RE

TRYING TO GET DONE. >> COMMISSIONER, I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU AND THAT'S BEENLE BEENE CHALLENGE.

AT THE SAME TIME, THERE MIGHT BE FOLKS THAT DON'T RESPOND AND SOMEONE PERCEIVES AS NONRESPONSIVE IN ONE HOUR AND NOT -- THERE COULD BE THE BAD ACTOR THAT SAYS THEY DON'T LIKE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THEY FIGURED ONE OUT AND THEY KNOW WHERE IT IS AND THEY HAVE TO GO FOR THE SAKE OF CALLING AND THERE WILL BE A BAD ACTOR ON THAT SUED OF THE SIDE OF THE FENCE. THAT'S WHERE THE HEARING -- SAYING I'M THE RESPONSIBLE HEARING AND I TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS. I CALLED 9-1-1 ON MY OWN PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, TO TELL THESE FOLKS TO SETTLE DOWN.

THAT COULD BE THE CASE. AND DUE PROCESS, MADAM MAYOR, YOU'VE SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. >> I HEAR A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE LOOKING AT LANGUAGE HERE OR SOMETHING, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, HEARING BOTH SIDES, PARTICULARLY IF SOMETHING IS GOING DOWN AND YOU HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE OR CODE ENFORCEMENTS AND YOU CALL EITHER ONE OFFICIALS AND MADE A COMPLAINT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WITHIN TO REASON, SHOULD THEY BE RESPONDING TO THE POLICE OFFICERS IN AN HOUR AND THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE BECAUSE I REMEMBER RAISING THIS BEFORE US AND THE USH ISSUE IY HAD WITH IT WAS THE WORLD SHALL RESULT. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT'S TOO TEN THATTIVE TO TENTATIVE TO SAY IT SHALL BE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE MAGISTRATE PROCESS, THAT NO PROOF FOR THE MAGISTRATE TO HEAR ALL SIDES AND TO HAVE PEOPLE PRESENT THEIR CASES AND THEN THE MAGISTRATE MAY OR MAY NOT RULE ON WHAT THAT PERSON IS HEARING. THAT'S WHERE I HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS BECAUSE OF WHERE I READ THAT.

SHALL RESPOND TO ANY AND ALL CALLS.

THERE ARE GOOD ACTORS AND BAD ACTORS AND COEXIST IN THE SAME.

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, SIR.

>> THERE'S ALSO THREE POINTS OF INTEREST.

THREE TIMES AND YOU MIGHT BE COMING IN FRONT OF A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND FIRST AND SECOND TIME AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT -- AND I HAD IT CIRCLED FROM BEFORE WHEN YOU SAID SHALL. HERE IS THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF I'M AN OWNER OF ONE OF THESE RENTAL UNITS AND I SEE THERE'S AN ISSUE, MY HOUSE BECOMES THE POPULAR PLACE, MY RENTAL, AND I SEE AN ISSUE THERE, I'M GOING TO PROBABLY CHANGE SOME OF THE NOTIFICATION LANGUAGE ON MY PIECE OF PAPER OR I'LL SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF I GET COMPLAINTS HERE OR I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE CITY OR SOMEONE CALL ME OR I'M GOING TO PUT SOME EXTRA EFFORT INTO MAKING SURE MY UNIT STAYS IN COMPLIANCE, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT. I'M FOLLOWING YOU.

>> I MEAN, THAT'S IT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE RESPONDING TO. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US KNOW THAT UNTIL THE CASE STARTS AS A CASE.

>> WE DON'T, MADAME MAYER, WE JONES COMMISSIONER, WE WILL FIND OURSELVES REVISITING THIS SOONER OR LATER AND I CAN HEAR THE FELLOW COMMISSIONER SAYING IT'S OPEN, WE CAN DO THAT,

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THINGS CHANGE ALL THE TIME IN STATE LEGISLATURE, AND THEY CHANGE THINGS AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THE MOST. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW

RIGHT NOW. >> AND YOU ARE WRITING THE DOCUMENT AND SOMETIMES YOU GET IT RIGHT AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO I MEAN, WE CAN THINK OF A LOT OF WHAT IS I THINK THAT IS ONE WE WILL REVISIT WE DON'T WANT TO BE FAIRLY PUNITIVE IN ANY WAY THAT'S WHY THIS IS BOTHERING US BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE

RIGHT THING HERE. >> IT'S A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT NOT ONLY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE RECOGNIZED 20 YEARS AGO, I WILL REPEAT THAT WILL MORE TIME FOR THE RECORD BUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA RECOGNIZED IT AS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THESE RULES, THESE EXEMPTION RULES WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN PEACE AND HARMONY WITH THE ABILITY TO LEGISLATE OR TO ENFORCE LOCAL LAW.

VERY SIMPLE. >> HAVE YOU GOT WHAT WE'VE GOT

SO FAR? >> I DO.

SMACK IF YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER ONE MORE TIME. I THINK I HAVE IT ALL.

>> ONE MORE TIME.LINE 70, LINE 178 UNDER LOCAL PHONE SERVICE WERE GOING TO REMOVE IN THE MAIN COMMON AREA OF THE RENTAL UNITS IN THE SECTION 4 LINE 188 WE ARE GOING TO DO PARKING, MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE GOING TO ADD THIS DOCUMENTATION DEMONSTRATING THERE IS NO ASSIGNED PARKING SPACES LINE 311, WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW FOR A HARD COPY OR DIGITAL COPY OF THE AGREEMENT UNDER ADVERTISING 452 WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE NUMBERS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND ADD THE ADVERTISEMENT SHALL INCLUDE A LINK PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WE ARE CHANGING THE EFFECTIVE DATE TO THE THIRD DAY OF AUGUST 2021.

>> OKAY. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> JUST TO MAKE SURE YOUR LEGAL OPINION THAT WE SUBSTANTIALLY DEVIATED IN ANY WAY FROM WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE ORIGINALLY AS WE STARTED AND WHAT WE ARE CONCLUDING.

>> I DO NOT BELIEVESO. >> THANK YOU.

>> >> IS ANYBODY READY TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> >> DIVE RIGHT INTO THE DEEP END.

>> MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 21-019 ESTABLISHING REGISTRATION PROGRAM FOR VACATION RENTALS INCLUDING STANDARDS, RULES AND ENFORCEMENT AS AMENDED.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> IS THERE A DISCUSSION? >> CALL THE ROLE.

>>.

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-021 modifying the existing vendor code to eliminate the requirement for a Vendor Permit, Application and the payment of the fee as a result of the preemption by Florida Statute 509.102. SECOND READING]

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P>> OKAY. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE 21-021 OF THE CITY COMMISSIONER THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 22 ARTICLE 8 VENDORS, SOLICITORS, CANVASES SECTIONS 22-358 222 -40 DELETING ALL REQUIREMENTS AND ORDINANCES CLARIFYING GENERAL REGULATIONS FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE REFILLING ORDINANCES WITH CONFLICT AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND READING. SYSTEMIC ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE FOR THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD? SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE

PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> AND A SECOND. >>.

[d. POSTPONED FROM 7/6/2021 MEETING Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-020 - Text Amendment to Section 125-187: "Use Table" in order to allow for Dwelling Rentals to be permitted by right in every zoning district. FIRST READING]

POSTPONED FROM THE 7-6-2021 MEETING THIS IS ORDINANCE 21 Ã ZERO 20 CHAPTER 125 ARTICLE 4 SECTION 125-187 TO ALLOW DWELLING RENTALS TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN EVERY ZONING DISTRICT AND ORDINANCES WITH CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE FIRST READING. SOON IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION?

>> BEFORE EACH OF YOU IS A TEXT TO MODIFY THE USE OF TABLE AND TO ELEVATE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENTS FOR DWELLING RENTALS IT WOULD PRIMARILY AFFECT E2, E3, R1, R2, R3, ARE FOUR, ARE FIVE, AND ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH STATE STATUES

>> THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD BRIEFLY LOOK LIKE AND IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED IT WOULD BE ACROSS-THE-BOARD IN EVERY ZONING DISTRICT. AND THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 5-1 THERE ARE 2 POSSIBLE ACTIONS YOU MAY APPROVE THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT WITH CHANGES THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> ON THE TABLE THERE, IT WENT FROM NO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO PERMITTED USE, OKAY.

I HAVE HEARD SOME FOLKS AGAIN, I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER AND WE CAN'T ELIMINATE

IT BY ZONING DISTRICT >> IT DISALLOWS THAT BY DURATION AND LOCATION.

>> HERE IS MY NEXT QUESTION NOT THAT IT'S DESIRABLE, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES PRESENTED IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITH THIS?

>> WITH WHAT REGARD? >> PERMITTING THIS USE AND THE

INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. >> FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR EXPERTISE. I'M JUST ASKING WHAT'S THE CHALLENGE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIV

? >> IF THIS IS ALLOWABLE AND

INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. >> IT WOULD ACTUALLY PUT RESTRICTIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD MAYBE NOT BE REQUIRED AS AN INDUSTRY IT WOULD BE YOUR DRIVEWAYS A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO MEET THE CITY CODE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT DRIVEWAY AND SURFACE MATERIAL THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL AND THEY WOULD NOT LOOK ÃIN THAT REGARD AND

WITH MORE EYES ON THEM. >> FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY THERE IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL PROPER PLANNING AS I ALLUDED TO IN THE MANY YEARS AS THE ZONING DISTRICTS BEING PROPERLY ALIGNED THAT'S WHY WE WENT THROUGH OUR AMENDMENTS AND

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PLANNING WHERE WE NEED THE INDUSTRIAL VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL, THOSE USUALLY DON'T GO TOGETHER AND WE ARE PERMITTING IT FROM THE OWNERS PERSPECTIVE YOU ARE STATING THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL FOR SOME IMPACTS TO THEM, NOT NECESSARILY TO THE CITY AND NOW THEY HAVE A DWELLING APPLICATION WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL USE.

>> AND IN ORDER TO GET THAT IN THERE, SOMEONE WHO POTENTIALLY WANTS TO RENT THEY WILL RUN TO RENT SOMETHING IF THEY WANT TO MAKE AN INCOME ON THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME BASIC STANDARDS THAT ARE DESIRABLE FOR SOMEONE WITH STAFF WE DID NOT FEEL THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AREA WHERE WE ARE DWELLING AND IT WILL BE PROPOSED AND DEVILS ADVOCATE AND

>> AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PLANNING METHODS AND THE APPLICATION IS FOLKS DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH BUT SOMETIMES THE OWNER DOES SO FOR A LONG TIME IN YEARS AGO THAT WASN'T ALLOWED YOU COULDN'T BUILD YOUR OWN LITTLE LOFT APARTMENT ON THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THOSE OF THE THEORIES BEHIND IT IS SAYS SPECIFICALLY DWELLING RENTAL.

>> FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT DID NOT HAVE LEGISLATION IN PLACE AND CANNOT REGULATE SO THERE ARE MANY MUNICIPALITIES THAT IN THEORY ALLOW IT DWELLING RENTALS AND INDUSTRIAL

AREAS. >> IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THERE'S AN OLD SCHOOL OF THOUGHT BY CHANGING THIS.

SO THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF

STAFF? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN FROM RESIDENCE AND FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT SAFETY ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE WE ARE NOW HAVING BECAUSE OF THE REGISTRATION BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DO AT LEAST WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT BE ADDING TO THE PROBLEM AS OPPOSED TO HAVING HOWEVER I MIGHT ALSO ADD THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN HERE EARLIER SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE RESIDENCE HE WAS VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO OUR REGULATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS AT ALL AND THERE ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IN THE COUNTY PART OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND I AM INFORMED YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED ABOUT PEOPLE WANTING TO USE VACATION RENTALS IS THAT NOT THE CASE? AND SO BY PERMITTING THIS WE ARE POTENTIALLY EXACERBATING A PROBLEM AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WERE TO BRING THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THAT WE

NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF THAT. >> WE WILL TAKE NOTE OF THAT BUT IT'S INTERESTING THOSE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND PROPERTY RIGHTS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BLOCK THAT

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ACCESS THIS IS CONCERNING, AND ABOUT THE SAME TYPE OF SITUATION AND I STILL STAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS AND WHERE WE ARE GOING, GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO PULL BACK AND WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES PROTECTIONS FOR ALL AND I HEARD FROM PEOPLE ON THE DRIVE AS WELL AND THEIR LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND IT COMES DOWN TO ME THAT IF PEOPLE WOULD, THEY OBVIOUSLY LAND THEY OWN PLACES IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO LOOK AT THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO NOW BUT I'M OPEN TO THE PROMISE THAT WE CAN REVISIT THIS.

>> WE CAN'T GO BACK ON THIS ONE. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THIS IS DONE? >> WHEN THIS IS CHANGED, THIS IS STRANGE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS IN A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMISSIONER AWARE THAT YOU GUYS LOST HER GRANDFATHER A LONG TIME AGO SO WE WILL START RIGHT HERE MAY 8, 2013 THE USE CHART WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE ITEMS OF THE OWN RECORD MAY 13, 2013 THE ATTORNEY SIGNED OFF JUNE 11 APPROVED BY THE DASHBOARD THESE ARE ALL CHANGES THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO ÃTHEN YOU HAVE JULY 15, 2013 AND THEN YOU HAD A SECOND MEETING NOVEMBER 4, 2013 AND YOU ADOPTED THIS WITH ERRORS AND HE KNEW ABOUT THE ERRORS AND ADOPTED IT ANYWAY AT FIVE YEARS LATER FAST FORWARD FEBRUARY 2018 AND ORDINANCE 18-005 SORRY 18-00 4 YOU AMENDED THIS EVEN THOUGH IT HAD ERRORS I MADE IT RETROACTIVE 16-018 ATTORNEY JAMES MESSER WAS THE ATTORNEY YOU GUYS HAVE NOT HAD GRANDFATHERING FOR A VERY LONG TIME AS YOU KNOW THE STATE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT YOU CANNOT STOP ON ZONING ALONE OR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS CAN'T JUST FOLLOW THE LAW HOWEVER YOU LOST THAT SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE FILED E1, YOU ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP ONE IS MY FORMER CLIENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CONTINUE TO PUT THIS CITY IN THE POSITION TO HAVE A LAWSUIT PEOPLE HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS YOU CLAIM THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, IT IS NOT, IT HAS BEEN STATED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL SOUND ISSUE AND IT ALSO STATES THAT IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WHICH YOU GUYS KEEP TRYING TO CLAIM IT IS SO I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT YOU HAVEN'T HAD GRANDFATHERING IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS A FULL LIST AMENDMENT ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR A DISCUSSION.

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>> MADAME MAYOR? >> YES SIR.

>> I WAS ON THE COMMISSION IN 2013 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS AT THE TIME, YOU CONVERTED A RULE AND REGULATION ON ZONING FROM A WRITTEN DOCUMENTED FORMAT TO A EUCLIDEAN FORMAT AND A GEOMETRIC GRAPH JUST LIKE WE SAW APPEAR AND THAT IS WHAT WE APPROVED THERE WERE MISTAKES MADE ON THAT AND THEY WERE MISTAKES AT NO TIME I'M GOING TO TELL YOU FROM MY MEMORY IS THAT WE TRY TO CHANGE ANYTHING ON THOSE ZONING STATEMENTS WAS JUST MAKING IT EASIER AND THE STAFF BROUGHT BACK THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE SETTING FORWARD YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU COULD FIGURE OUT WHERE EVERYTHING WAS GOING AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS AN IMPROVEMENT TO MAKE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE A LITTLE MORE USER-FRIENDLY AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT KEEPS COMING BACK AND I'M JUST STATING THAT FROM

MEMORY AND FROM MY POSITION. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE

THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT VERY >> I LEARNED THAT THE WORD, EUCLIDEAN.

I LOOK THAT ONE UP. >> I REMEMBER THAT.

I HAD TO LOOK THAT UP MYSELF. >> I WAS REALLY PROUD OF IT.

>> NOW YOU KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR WHAT

ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> THERE IS NOT JUST ONE PERSON

ON THIS COMMISSION. >>

>> MADAME MAYOR THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING ORDERS TEXT AMENDMENT SECTIONS 1252187 AND TO ALLOW FOR ÃTO BE PERMITTED IN THE REZONING DISTRICT.

>> IS THERE A DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>.

[e. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-022 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to include three (3) properties at or near 3171 Morning Dew Lane, 3051 South 25th Street, and 2503 Edwards Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. FIRST READING]

21-022 EXTENDING THE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA TO INCLUDE THREE PARCELS AT OR NEAR 3171 3051 S. 25TH STREET AND EDWARDS ROAD FORT PIERCE FLORIDA SHOWN TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND 2022 DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAX ON THE DESCRIBED PROPERTY ESTABLISHING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FILING OF THE ORDINANCE ENTRY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER DRAFTING IT OF THE ARTICLE ÃDEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH APPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND THE CONFLICT HERE TO PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> WELCOME. PROCEED.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAME MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BEFORE YOU IS A APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION FOR ARTICLES AND MAKE UP THE EDWARDS LANDING DEVELOPMENT.

AND RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM NON-DWELLING UPON ANNEXATION IT WILL BE GIVEN THE FUTURE LAND USE OF ÃFUTURE RESIDENTIAL AND IT WILL BE GIVEN A ZONING DESIGNATION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AS PROPOSED MAS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 1.11 REGARDING ANNEXATIONS AND PLANNING BOARD ON JUNE 14, 2021 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS REPRESENTED POSSIBLE ACTIONS YOU CAN APPROVE AND SO HAS THE PLANNING BOARD OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

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>> THIS IS A PARCEL THAT HAS CONSTRUCTION ONGOING?

>> AND THE OTHER THREE THAT ARE NOT CONSTRUCTED.

>> FOR A MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR

DISCUSSION. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DOMINIC

TOMA ÃCALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>.

[f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-023 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to a property at or near 186 Melton Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. FIRST READING]

INCLUDE A PARCEL AT OR NEAR 186 AS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE THEM ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AND ESTABLISHING ANY DESIGNATION FOR LAND-USE DESIGNATION AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATION OFFICER DIRECTING REVISION OF THE BOUNDARY ARTICLE AND THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC Ã PARTS THEREOF AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? PROCEED.

>> AN APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION PROPERTY IN 186 MOULTON DRIVE THE CURRENT PLAN USES COMMERCIAL AND CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL IT WILL BE GIVEN ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND POLICY SECTION 1.11 REGARDING ANNEXATIONS AND JUNE 14, 2021 AND TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION OR DISAPPROVE THE ANNEXATION I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, I AM CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAINING EMOTION.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>.

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-024 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to include four (4) properties at or the northeast corner of King Orange Drive and Mura Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. FIRST READING]

TERRITORIAL LIMITS TO INCLUDE FOUR PARCELS AT OR NEAR THE CORNER OF ÃSHOWN ON EXHIBIT A AND AS OF JANUARY 1, 2022 AND THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES AND LAND USE DESIGNATION AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATION OFFICER DIRECTING REVISION THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >>.

[LAUGHTER] 'S FROM THE CORNER OF ÃLAND-USE WE WILL BE GIVEN AN HOUR RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE IT'S A MULTI FAMILY DWELLING AND GIVEN THE HIGH DENSITY AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGARDING ANNEXATION AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 7-0 AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS ARE TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO IF THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS COMING FORWARD. SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> CALL THE ROLL. >>.

[h. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance 21-025 REZONING OF NINE (9) PARCELS LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2496 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY, 2 DU/ACRE (E-2) AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL (C-3) TO COMMERCIAL PARKWAY (CP-1). FIRST READING]

ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION FOR FORT PIERCE FLORIDA REGARDING NINE PARCELS NEAR SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY A SINGLE DWELLING ÃGENERAL COMMERCIAL PROVIDING FOR

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SEVERABILITY CLAUSE ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. SWEENEY. >> THE LEGISLATIVE QUASIJUDICIAL ROLE THEY ENGAGE IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES. THEY APPLY LAWS AND POLICIES AND THE CAUSE I JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THÃB AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THEY HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE ÃTHAT'S WHY THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES FOR THE QUIET SIDE JUDICIAL PROCEDURES AND THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING AND THE SERGEANT-AT-ARMS, THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER.

>> WE WILL HAVE A CAUSE I JUDICIAL HEARING AFTER THIS SO THE SAME RULES APPLY.

>> >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> CALL THE ROLL >> >> CAN YOU SWEAR IN THE

WITNESSES? >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH

AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> THANK YOU BILL FOR YOU IS A AMENDMENT FOR NINE PARCELS THAT WILL MAKE UP THE KINGS HIGHWAY YOU SAW THESE PARCELS WITH ANNEXATION AND THE CURRENT LAND USE ON THE PROPERTIES IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL THE CURRENT ZONING ON THREE OF THE PARCELS IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THE SAME AS THE TWO OF THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE PARCELS FROM SINGLE-FAMILY TO THREE PARCELS COMMERCIAL PARKWAY CP ONE DISTRICT AND FUTURE LAND USES AND ZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS CONSISTENT WITH ÃOF THE CITY CODE AND IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE COMMISSION ARE TO APPROVE THESE AND YOU CAN ALSO ÃI AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKED THE APPLICANT TO COME

FORWARD PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING.

[INDISCERNIBLE] EXTREMITY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION

OR TALK TO US? >> I THINK YOU HAD ENOUGH

TONIGHT. >> BLESS YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE COME FORWARD.EE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW IT COMES BACK TO THE

COMMISSION. >>

>> CALL THE ROLL. >>.

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 2102 SIX MODIFYING THE HARBOR I'LL LAND DEVELOPMENT TO REVISE THE

[i. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance 21-026 - AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA; MODIFYING THE HARBOUR ISLE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO REVISE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 835 SEAWAY DRIVE. FIRST READING]

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE

>> HAVE THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET?

>> DID YOU ASK FOR X PARTAKE COMMUNICATIONS?

>> >> COMMISSIONER?

>> NOT ON THIS. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESS?

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>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? SUBMIT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A ZONING AMENDMENT TO THE APPLICATION FOR THE HARBOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PHASE 2. Ã A ZONING OF PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THE REQUEST IS FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A RETAIL BUILDING AND SELF STORAGE SPACE THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST IS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USES AND ZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PART OF THE THIRD-PARTY REVIEW AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY DETERMINING THAT THE ADJACENT IMPACTED ROADWAY HAS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY AVAILABLE AND WILL OPERATE ACCEPTABLY AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, THIS IS WHAT THE SITE PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE IT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 6500 SQUARE FEET 14 SELF STORAGE UNITS OPPORTUNITY FOR ÃA DRIVE THROUGH FOR A FAST FOOD BUSINESS 42 PARKING SPACES AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN PROVIDES FOR 14 TREES IN 19 PALM TREES AND SHRUBS AND AS PART OF THE PROCESS THE APPLICANT AGREED TO PROVIDE A STRIPED LOADING AND UNLOADING ZONE THEY LOOKED VERY SIMILAR IF NOT THE SAME TO THE CURRENT BUILDING ON ÃTHIS IS JUST THE ELEVATION FOR THE SELF STORAGE.

THE PLANNING BOARD AFTER THE MEETING ON JUNE 14, 2021 VOTED TO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED POSSIBLE ACTIONS YOU CAN APPROVE THE MODIFICATIONS THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

AND THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS CONDITION PURSUANT TO CITY CODE 123-6 THE PLANNING BOARD VOTED AS PRESENTED AND YOU CAN APPROVE THE MODIFICATION WITH CHANGES.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> MATT AMERICAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE ZONING ÃCAN YOU POINT WITH YOUR CURSOR? SWIM WITH THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO PUT SOME LOADING ZONE IN HERE AND THERE IS NO DESIGNATED PARKING PLACES IN FRONT OF THE LOADING ZONE OR SELF STORAGE UNITS.

>> IS THEIR OUTDOOR SEATING? >> IT'S APPROXIMATELY AROUND HERE. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> CAN YOU UNDERSTAND >> THEY PROVIDE A LETTER AT ONE SET IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IT WOULD NOT HAVE A ADVERSE ÃBASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS GENERATED FOR THAT

SPECIFIC PROJECT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE.

>> UP I AM DAVID WITH ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I DO NOT.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE WITH US?

>> I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. THE STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION A DRIVE THROUGH FAST FOOD TYPE BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WILL BE? >> THEY HAVE HAD INTERNAL AGREEMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH DUNCAN. THUS THE TARGET ATTENDANCE.

>> DO YOU KNOW THE HOURS OF OPERATION?

>> I THINK IT'S NOT Ã >> I DON'T HAVE IT PIN DOWN THIS STANDARD OPERATING HOURS.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. >> COFFEE AND DONUTS.

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>> THEY HAVE MORE THINGS NOW. >> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS >> SO YOU ENTER THE SITE FROM A ROADWAY THAT EXISTS.

IS THAT RIGHT? YOU ARE NOT CREATING A NEW ONE AND IF YOU WANTED TO EXIT AND GO LEFT, THERE IS ONLY ONE SPOT THAT YOU CAN GET THAT DONE.

>> THAT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. >> YOU ARE UTILIZING WHAT HAS BEEN ON ANOTHER PROJECT BUT YOU HAVEN'T ÃON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT JUST GOES

EAST >> THE TRAFFIC AND ACCESS HAS BEEN ANALYZED FOUR TIMES ON

THIS PROPERTY >> THEY PLAN THREE POINTS OF ACCESS

>> THANK YOU. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANTS? ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AND I MIGHT ASK YOU TO COME BACK, SIR.

>> MY NAME IS ANNETTE I LIVE AT HARBOR DRIVE EAST I THINK I AM STILL AWAKE.

GOOD EVENING FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY THE PHASE 1 OF HARBOR SHOPS IS BEAUTIFUL I THINK DEVELOPERS DID A MAGNIFICENT JOB AND I THINK YOU ADDRESSED MY QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE HAVING BELONG TO THE SOUTH BEACH ASSOCIATION FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS I DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE PERMITTED ON THE ISLAND SO I WAS CURIOUS WHEN I SAW THE PLANS THAT THERE WAS A FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENT PLAN BUT THANKS TO YOU YOU ANSWERED IT WAS GOING TO BE DUNKIN' DONUTS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT

>> THANK YOU FOR STAYING. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE I LOVE DUNKIN' DONUTS AND I'M GLAD THEY ARE COMING SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY BUT I HAVE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE WITH REGARDS TO SEASON AND I HAVE WITNESSED IT AND SENT PICTURES AND THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GETS BACKED UP TO THE BRIDGE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO FIX THIS YEAND DURING DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE SEASON YOU CAN'T GET IN AND OUT.

THE DESIGN IS GOOD I VISITED WITH MY HUSBAND AND WE ENDED UP GOING TO THE ICE CREAM SHOP AND THAT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT WE HAVE THESE ROUNDABOUTS, THEY LOOK GREAT BUT THEY DON'T FUNCTION THAT WELL UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH STUDY DONE ON THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE IT BACKED UP OVER THE BRIDGE LIKE IT IS ALREADY AND THERE IS A DUNKIN' DONUTS BUT I GO TO WHEN YOU GET OFF OF VIRGINIA I THINK IT IS AND WHEN YOU COME THAT WAY THERE IS A DUNKIN' DONUTS AND SOMETIMES THE LINE IS BACKED UP TO THE STREET SO I LOVE DUNKIN' DONUTS AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE COMING I'M CONCERNED THAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO GET STOPPED AT OCEAN AND IT WILL CREATE MORE TRAFFIC SO I'M SURE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE TOO HAPPY SO THIS JUST MY OBSERVATION AS A RESIDENT AND HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

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>> APPLICANT, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID?

>> WE HAD CONCERNS AND THIS WAS BEING LOOKED AT AND I THINK WE ALL PUT THE CUMBERLAND THROUGH ITS PACES AT THAT POINT IN TIME OF MY CLIENT LISTEN TO THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC SAID AND STORAGE AND WANT TO ÃREDUCE INTENSITY THAT'S THE TARGET AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB AND WE UNDERSTAND NO PROJECT COMES OUT WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO ANALYZE IT AND WE HAVE HAD

STAFF REVIEW IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SO THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE THAT SHOWS A PICTURE AND WHATEVER UNIT THEY RENT AND THAT'S THE PLAN. NO BACK IN PARTNERSHIPS PARALLEL AND THESE ARE SMALL PRIVATE UNITS WE HAVE OVER WIDE ÃAND THEY WERE PROVIDING 35 FEET.

>> AND QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SO,

>> IT'S BEEN A PAINFUL EVENING BUT I REMEMBER THE CUMBERLAND FARM PROJECT AND I WILL ADD IT TO THAT LIST AND I WILL SAY THAT I AM EXCITED BY HARBOR SHOPS AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR AND I AM HAPPY THAT THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER HEARD WHAT WE HAD TO SAY WHEN I SAW THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY I SAID, WOW, YOU LESSEN THE IMPACT TO TRAFFIC IMPACT AND IT'S INTERESTING IN A WAY, WE KNOW THAT ÃIS SUFFICIENT BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT HAS TO GO TO THE DEVELOPER? IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT I HEARD FROM OTHER RESIDENTS RECENTLY IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT BUT AGAIN WE ARE IN THE BALANCE BETWEEN HOW WE PERCEIVE THE ISSUES GOING TO BE IN THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER BACK HERE WHO HAS A RIGHT TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY SO ON THIS CASE THAT GETS FLIP-FLOPPED AROUND AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED I AM HAPPY FOR THE WAY THIS PROJECT COMES FORWARD BECAUSE YOU ARE LESSENING THE IMPACTS AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT STORAGE AREAS AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU ARE THERE FIVE TIMES A DAY, AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME YOU RUN IT AND YOU FORGET IT'S THERE AND YOU PAY YOUR BILL AND FOR THOSE FOLKS ON THE ISLAND, STORAGE IS EVERYTHING.

PEOPLE BUY HOUSES, BIG HOUSES, SO THEY CAN STORE THEIR STUFF AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY STORAGE AREAS TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. THE SHOPS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO RUN SIMILAR TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL SHOPS ARE RUNNING IS GOING TO ADD TRAFFIC STRESS BUT I THINK IT'S BEING MANAGED IN A REASONABLE WAY AND FROM ONE HE WAS VERY MUCH AGAINST THE CUMBERLAND FARM PROJECT I THINK MR. MASON FOR HEARING WHAT WE SAID AND COMING FORWARD AND THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN DIGEST A LOT MORE THAN I COULD THEN.

>> A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. MR. MASON YOU LIKE MALT LONG MEETINGS.

EVERYONE YOU COME TO IS A LONG ONE. I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU IN THE ROOM ANYMORE, I'M TEASING.

>> IS THAT THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? >> WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE BACK IN THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND IF IT GETS APPROVED TONIGHT THEN GOOD AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO THINK ABOUT AND REMEMBER IS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS 15 OR 16,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTALITY AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT IN TOTAL RETAIL SPACE SO EXISTING SHOPS 11 OR 12,000 WE WILL ADD 6500 WERE AT THE SAME FIGURE WAS WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN

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2004 2003. 2004, I THINK IT WAS 2004.

>> BEFORE HURRICANES? >> I THINK IT WAS PRE-HURRICANE. THAT'S OKAY. JUST A REMINDER, THAT WE ARE BACK IN STRIDE WITH THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTUAL PLAN IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE 2 BUILDINGS AND A LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE SO I THINK WE ARE THERE.

>> WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF 21-026 >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>.

[a. Resolution 21-R36 establishing vacation rental registration fee.]

RESOLUTION 21- R 36 THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA ESTABLISHING THE ANNUAL VACATION RENTAL REGISTRATION FEE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. WE DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION BUT THE FEE WAS TO ENTER $50.

>> SO HERE WE GO AGAIN IS RIGHT AND I WILL SAY TO THE COMMISSION I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN $250 TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND THE ORIGINAL WAS 1200 AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FIRST THAT'S $50 A MONTH.ANNUALLY.

>> SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND I JUST MADE A FLOWCHART THAT HELPS ME SO THE GROWING SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND VACATION INDUSTRY AND IT IS GROWING ITS BLOWING UP. THAT'S NUMBER ONE THERE IS A NEED TO DETERMINE COMPATIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WAS IN THE RIGHT SPOT AND NUMBER THREE IS THAT WE HAVE ALL LOST ÃSO WE COULDN'T DO THAT SO THEN WE ENDED UP WITH A BECAUSE I JUDICIAL CONSIDERATION THAT WE FOUND TO BE PROBLEMATIC THEY CREATED IMPACTS TO NEIGHBORHOODS.

SOME WERE FACTUAL SO MORE PERCEPTUAL THERE IS A LOCAL NEED FOR US TO REGULATE WITH THE REGULATION YOU NEED ENFORCEMENT AND WITH ENFORCEMENT YOU HAVE COSTS AND WHO SHOULD PAY, THOSE CREATING THE IMPACT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WHAT WE DID WE WENT TO THE PROCESS AGAIN WE SAID WE WOULD PUT ENFORCEMENT THERE SO REALLY IT'S DOWN TO THE LAST ENFORCEMENT COST AND WHO SHOULD PAY.THE PEOPLE CREATING IMPACT OR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MAY BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH BUT WHEN YOU START TAKING A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE TO BEGIN WITH I BEGIN TO THINK THE 1200 IS WAY TOO MUCH MONEY AND PROBABLY WOULD CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS AND NOT I DON'T THINK 250 IS ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY CREATE ENOUGH REVENUES TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT ENFORCEMENT THAT I HAVE ENVISIONED IN MY MIND AND I'M SURE THE REST OF YOU HAVE ALSO. SO I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE IT CUMBERSOME BUT I WAS THINKING CLOSER TO THE $400 RANGE.

>> COMMISSIONERS? >> I HAVE GONE ROUND AND ROUND WITH THIS ALSO 1200 WAS GOOD FIRST TAKE WITH A NUMBER OF UNITS THAT MAY BE REGISTERED AT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HOPEFULLY TO THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE SEVEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF WHAT COULD BE COMMENDED FOR OUR FOLKS TO PROPERLY ENFORCE REGULATIONS AND 250 DIDN'T COVER IT IN MY MIND SO I HAVE HEARD SOME FEEDBACK FROM INDIVIDUALS AROUND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AND I WAS THINKING MORE OF THE FIVE OR 600 SO THAT WAS MY PERSPECTIVE AND MY TAKE ON THAT.

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I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. I USUALLY DO THOSE DIVISIONAL TAKES $50 A MONTH WHEN YOU CITED IT RING A BELL FOR ME I HAD NOT THOUGHT OU ARE RIGHT.Y IT IS A FEE, IT'S A BUSINESS FEE OF SORTS FOR THAT KIND OF ESTABLISHED BUSINESS SO I AM OKAY WITH THOSE NUMBERS BEING

MORE THAN FIVE OR 600. >> MATTA MAYOR IN COMMISSIONERS. WE STARTED OUT 1200 AND I THINK THAT WAS, WE DID THE MATH AT THAT POINT THAT WAS $100 A MONTH AND THEN WE STARTED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND WE WERE LOOKING AT REGISTRATION FEES AND WHERE I AM STUCK WITH THIS IS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN WE HAVE HAD SOME NUMBERS EARLY ON I STILL DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THAT ENFORCEMENT IS AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF PART-TIME PEOPLE SO I DON'T KNOW AND SO FOR ME TO MAKE A DECISION, I AM LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIATION WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BUT WHEN I LOOK AT TWITTER $50 ANNUALLY THAT'S $20 A MONTH GIVE OR TAKE. AND THEN I LOOK AT THE PROCESS THAT THIS GOES THROUGH AND I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE GET MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN REGISTER AS OPPOSED TO GOING IN THE SHADOWS NOT BROUGHT THAT 1200 NUMBER DOWN AND I REMEMBER SAYING CAN WE GET MORE PEOPLE AND THAT WOULD ADD OBVIOUSLY MORE PEOPLE TO THE ACTUAL RATE AT WHICH WE COME IN AND COLLECT THAT WOULD OFFSET THE EXPENSE WE ARE LOOKING AT. THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE BACK OF MY HEADRIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE SOME VACATION RENTALS OPERATING THEY HAVE NOT REPORTED THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO REPORTED AND THAT WOULD BE ENFORCEMENT ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD BE BUT AT THAT POINT THEY WILL BE REGISTERED AND PAYING INTO WHATEVER THAT IS GOING FORWARD.

>> DO YOU HAVE TAB ENFORCEMENT PER WHAT IS OPERATING ALREADY? OPERATING IN THE SHADOWS?

>> I AGREE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND NO ONE HAS PUT THAT IN FRONT OF ME AND

IT'S MATH FOR ME SO YOU KNOW >> IT'S MATH FOR YOU IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?

>> I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE NUMBER THAT IS OUT THERE DOES IT GIVE US AN ACTUAL NUMBER AND WHAT WE PROPOSE IS GOING TO ÃI DON'T KNOW. WHAT DID WE SAY? HOW MANY OFFICERS DID WE HIRE?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY BUT I REMEMBER THE CITY MANAGER SAYING, [INDISCERNIBLE] WHAT IS

YOUR QUESTION? >> MY QUESTION IS THE

AFFORDABILITY >> WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU JUST PASSED THAT IT CALLS FOR ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL ENFORCE THAT BEGINNING AT THAT EFFECTIVE DATE NOW I WAS ASKED A QUESTION PREVIOUSLY TO 50 BASED ON THE EXISTING NUMBER OF BTR IS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND THE ANSWER IS NO. I THINK WE HAVE 200 CURRENT UNITS AND WE BASICALLY SAID A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WOULD COST ROUGHLY $100,000 TO

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INCLUDE SALARY, BENEFITS AND RESOURCES AND AS FAR AS ENFORCING THE ORDINANCES THAT WILL TAKE A DEPARTMENT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ONE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CANNOT ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE SO YOU TASKED ME TO ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE ASKED WHAT WE WILL DO BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT COSTS.

>> WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF WE WANT TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER BASED ON THE REVENUES IS GOING TO COST $100,000. BUT IF YOU ARE TELLING ME TO PASS THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE PASSED THAT DONE.

>> I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT SHE 50, 400, 450, WHICH IS YOU SAY COMMISSIONER?

>> COMMISSIONER? >> I SAID FIVE OR SIX I WILL STICK WITH SIX TO BE CONSISTENT.

>> MADAME MAYOR? WILL YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUSINESS PLAN AND WITH THE AVERAGE RENTAL OF THIS TYPE EVEN FOR THOSE WHO JUST RENTED OUT PART OF THE TIME US IN THE $30,000 A YEAR RANGE AND IT CAN GO OUT TWICE OR THREE TIMES THAT AMOUNT THAT'S REASONABLE TO SAY SO IF WE START TALKING ABOUT IT BEING UNREASONABLE AND IT IS A BUSINESS, WE CAN CALL IT THAT AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S INTRUSIVE IT DOESN'T STOP ANYTHING AND IF IT'S A FOUR, FIVE OR SIX WE DON'T HAVE TO FIND 100 PERCENT OF ONE OFFICER WE JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT EFFORT AND I'M SURE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN, KNOWING PEGGY SHE WILL PROBABLY CROSS TRAIN EVERYONE TO DO IT EVEN ANIMAL CONTROL CAN GO OUT THERE AND HANDLE THESE KINDS OF THINGS WE HAVE PUT ONE PERSON WITH THE REVENUES WE RECEIVED FROM THIS IMPACT GOING FORWARD AND AS WE DO THAT I AM SURE THAT 200 NUMBER HAS GROWN TO 400 BY NEXT YEAR AND THIS WILL ADD TO THAT AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT COMES IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME YOU MIGHT NEED TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON SO I DON'T WANT TO GET SO COMPLICATED THAT WE ARE DETERMINING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN AND WHATEVER NUMBER WITHIN THERE THAT WE CAN

AGREE ON THAT IS 12 Ã$1200. >> YES SIR.

>> I AGREE WITH HOW I CAME UP WITH MY INFORMATION AND ACTIVE PERMITS AS $100,000 BUT BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS LAW-ENFORCEMENT IMPACT IF THERE IS SUCH A LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT AND I WASN'T LOOKED AT A ÃFTE PER SE BUT I DID LOOK AT THE FIVE OR 600 AND THE ANNUAL REVENUE SOURCE AND KNOWING OR ANTICIPATING AN INCREASE AND THEN HAVING THIS AS A RESOLUTION GIVES US THE ABILITY AS THIS INCREASES TO TAKE A NEW LOOK AT IT AND IS JUSTIFIED, THERE IS A DATA AND IT COST $100,000 FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WE KNOW THERE'S 200 OR SO CURRENT APPLICATIONS OR CURRENT REGISTRATIONS THAT MIGHT BECOME ACTIVE WITH A FEE THAT WOULD FUND THE ACT OR AT LEAST PARTIAL ONE CODE ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEE AND THEN AS WE INCREASE THE REGISTRATIONS WE CAN BACK THAT NUMBER DOWN AND

INSTEAD OF GOING UP IN TAXES >> >> WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WE CAN

BASE OUR DECISION ON. >> I THOUGHT IT TO BE A JUSTIFIABLE NUMBER, FIVE OR 600 FOR ME.SEMI-VERY QUICKLY SECTION 2 HAS THE EFFECTIVE DATE BEING JULY 19 I WOULD SUGGEST WHATEVER YOU DECIDE CITY YOU MODIFY THAT TO BE

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CONTEMPORANEOUS AND JUST FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME BUT I EXPECT IT WILL BE MORE PALATABLE TO START WITH A NUMBER THAT CAN GO DOWN IF THE DATA DRIVES IT AND SAID WE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERESTIMATED IT HAVE TO GO UP I HAVE SEEN IT ENOUGH TIMES THAT IT'S RARE. THERE IS RARELY APPLAUSE FOR

LET'S RAISE THE RATE. >> MADAME MAYOR.

SO WHAT MAKES SENSE TO ME IS TRYING TO GET THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR NUMBER SO FOR

ME THAT'S AROUND 500 >> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> I DO WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE DO HAVE A CAPABLE CO-COMPLIANCE MANAGER ISSUES THE ONE THAT IMPLEMENTED THE ALARM THING, ALARM REGISTRATION AND SUBSEQUENT TO WHAT'S HAPPENING I HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT COMPANIES THAT CAN ASSIST US WITH REGISTERING SHORT-TERM RENTALS AS WELL. THIS MAY NOT BE AN OFFICER GOING OUT DRIVING AROUND THIS MAY BE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE, INVESTIGATIVE ASSISTANCE THIS IS HOW THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLOWS AND HOW THE PROPERTY PROGRAMS ASSIST US AND HOW THE CITY CLERK SEES THAT PARTICIPATION THERE SEVERAL FACETS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEGUN TO UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST SO I THINK THIS FIRST YEAR WILL BE AN EXPERIMENTAL YEAR BUT WE SHOULD ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE, WHATEVER THAT TAKES

THEM PEGGY IS UP FOR IT. >> MADAME MAYOR. >>.

[LAUGHTER] >> AS FAR AS THE COMMISSION IS CONCERNED WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME DEDICATED EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE ARE SETTING FORTH TODAY AND WE CAN'T JUST SIT THERE AND SAY WELL, THAT PERSON'S GOING TO DO IT.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE SAY IS TRUTHFUL BECAUSE THERE'S RESIDENTS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE HAD TO HAD TO, THE CONCESSION WAS THIS ISSUE AND THAT CONCESSION HAS TO BE IMPORTANT ENOUGH IT HAS TO HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE TEETH AND THE COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE IT DOES BECOME A BENEFIT AND NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE PASSED AND IGNORED AND I'M SURE IT WILL BE A BENEFIT.

>> MADAME MAYOR, ONE MORE COMPONENT, IF THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF SOFTWARE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A RESOURCE THAT WILL BENEFIT THE REGISTRATION PROCESS AND THE LAST MEETING ALSO I ASKED THE CITY CLERK WITH THE IMPACT WAS SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT ACTIVE ON THE FISCAL YEAR SO THAT'S PART OF THAT I THINK IT WAS A FISCAL YEAR. WAS A FISCAL YEAR WE WERE DOING RENEWALS? SO THAT PROCESS COMES AROUND AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. EF CONTRACTORS COMING IN FOR

LICENSING IN THIS PROCESS SO >> I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF WHEN THE COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE DO WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THERE ARE MANY DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE WE COULD RIGHT NOW SEE THE CODE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND SO THIS THEY WILL BECOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND YOU HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH PROVIDING CITY SERVICES THAT ARE NOT JUST FINE LINE ALONG A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING COMMISSIONER AND I WILL SAY THAT I WAS RELUCTANT TO GIVE UP THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. I HAVE SLOWLY ACCEPTED THE REGISTRATION PROCESS BUT THE

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PROCESS MUST BE BASED ON ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS WAS NOT ÃSO WE HAVE TO HAVE ADEQUATE ENFORCEMENT.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU ARE OKAY. A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 21-R 36 WITH MODIFICATIONS TO CHANGE FROM TWO $50-$600 ON THE ANNUAL FEE EDITION TAKE EFFECT

ON AUGUST 3 2021. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. >> ALL RIGHT.

DISCUSS. >> WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS BUT WERE STARTING HIGH AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO AND I AM THINKING ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CURRENT SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS THAT HAVE REGISTERED AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE STILL PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TRIED TO THINK THAT DON'T REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT FOR THEM THAT $600 BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING THE LION SHARE OF THAT AND IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE I'M CONTRADICTING SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER BUT I'M TRYING TO BE A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE PUTTING MONEY UP AND AS I HEARD BEFORE 120 ARE IN OCEAN VILLAGE SO WE HAVE 120 AND I JUST WOULD SAY THAT I COULD TAKE THE 500 A LITTLE BIT BETTER IF WE HAVE SOWN CONCESSION AND THE CONCESSION WILL INCREASE THAT NUMBER

>> MADAME MAYOR, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ÃBROUGHT UP A POINT AND THAT'S A COMMENT WE HAD ONE HAD MULTIPLE FACTS IN IT AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT AS A FACTOR AND THAT, WITH MY SENSITIVITY AND I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT IN PARTICULAR BUT THAT SOMEWHAT OF A CONCERN

OF MINE AS WELL. BUT THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR >> AND I AM GOOD WITH THE 600 AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING AND WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE ONES THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED OR HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE I DON'T SEE THIS IS PUNITIVE BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING MORE BEFORE WE TAKE

THE VOTE? >> I CONSIDER THOSE THINGS AND I JUST FELT LIKE I WAS DOING MY PART WITH RUNNING SOME NUMBERS AND TRYING TO LESSEN THAT

FEELING AND >> I AM NOT GOING TO LET US TIE ALL THE TIME BUT I WOULD ASK, THAT WE WILL REVIEW THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN STEP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON SO TO LET IT GO ON AND ON AND REVIEW THIS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE APPROPRIATE IN OUR

STRUCTURE. >> I WOULD HAD TO REVIEW OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, SIX MONTH INCREMENTS SO WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE.

>> ANYMORE DISCUSSION? >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR WE ARE GOING TO REVISIT THIS EVERY SIX MONTHS? CERAMIC THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

>> WE CAN GET A HANDLE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH APPLICATIONS IN THE FEE STRUCTURE AND WE REVIEW OUR

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BUDGET ANYWAY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW IT MAY BE EVEN PRE-BUDGET TIME SIX MONTHS FROM

NOW YEAR FROM NOW WE WILL BE PREBUDGET >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY?

>> BE READY TO VOTE? >>.

[b. Resolution 21-R37 authorizing the issuance of Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency Redevelopment Revenue Refunding Bonds, Series 2021, in the aggregate principal amount not to exceed $26,000,000, and authorizing the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.]

COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE BY THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY NOT TO EXCEED 26 MILLION OF REVENUE REFUNDING BONDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 163 PART THREE AS AMENDED AND TO TAKE ON NECESSARY ACTIONS PROVIDING ON AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT'S GOING TO SAVE THE F PRA IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE $1 MILLION FOR THE EXTENT OF THE ACTUAL RELATIONSHIP FOR THIS BOND FUNDING AND WE ARE GOING TO REAP THE REWARD OF HAVING A 1.33 PERCENT INTEREST RATE WHICH IS LESS THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE REDUCING OUR DEBT BY DOING SOME DEBT RESTRUCTURING AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCES HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN FINDING

THIS OPPORTUNITY. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE GREAT >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE PRAY

>>.

WE HAVE AN EMPTY ROOM AND WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT ONE AT THE TOP TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SAVED. OLIVIA IS OVER THERE. THANKS OLIVIA.

>> AND THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME WE ARE REDUCING OUR DEBT. WHAT COULD BE WRONG WITH THAT?

[c. Resolution 21-R38 appointing Tanya Earley as Interim City Attorney effective upon the resignation of Peter J. Sweeney. ]

>> RESOLUTION 20 1R 38 THE CITY COMMISSION FORT PIERCE FLORIDA DESIGNATING A CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> WE HAVE TO POINT AT HIM. >> WE DID NOT RUN THIS PAST

HIM. >> HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

THIS. >> IT LOOKS GOOD.

>> IT'S IN THERE I BELIEVE. SO WE ADDED, >> THE RESOLUTION APPOINTS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TONYA EARLY AND ONE ASPECT IT DOES NOT ADDRESS IS THE COMPENSATION FOR THIS APPOINTMENT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU ALL WE HAVE REACHED AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE BELIEVE 3000 DOLLARS A MONTH ADDITIONAL WOULD BE SUFFICIENT AND IT IS AGREEABLE

FOR THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. >> SHE IS GOING TO BE A ONE

WOMAN SHOW? >> SHE WILL GET THE RESOURCES AND SHE HAS BEEN PREPPED TO ACCOMPLISH THE UPCOMING MONTHS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> YOU COME IN AS AN INTERIM AND I THINK 3000 ADDITIONAL IS THE MINIMUM. I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> IF I MAY ADD A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT FOR MANY DECADES THIS WAS SERVICED BY A LAW FIRM THAT HAD HALF A DOZEN OF LAWYERS.

>> YOU DON'T NEED TO REMIND ME. >>.

[LAUGHTER] >> ON THE CITY DID DECIDE TO CREATE THIS IT WAS STAFFED AT THREE ATTORNEYS.A SENIOR ATTORNEY AND A MORE JUNIOR ATTORNEY AND AS YOU KNOW THINGS HAPPEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AT ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS WASN'T FILLED BY ME BUT I HAVE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE HAD Ã WORKING FOR ME I THINK ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE INTERACTED HAVE

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FOUND SHE IS PHENOMENAL, SHE IS TOP-NOTCH AND SHE IS REALLY DOING THE JOB OF AT LEAST 2 ATTORNEYS AND MAYBE THREE COULD BE ARGUED SO YOU GUYS ARE GETTING A STEEL AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE RECORD AND IF YOU DON'T STEAL HER I WILL FIND A WAY TO STEAL HER.

>> HONESTLY. TONYA IS PHENOMENAL AND I THINK YOU WILL FIND WHEN SHE IS SITTING IN THIS CHAIR THE NEXT MEETING, YOU MIGHT SAY PETE WHO?

>> ALL RIGHT. IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION WHICH INCLUDES THE SALARY AND COMPENSATION.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>.

[d. Submittal of applications to serve on the Civil Service Appeals Board.]

APPEALS BOARD THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT MEETING IN THE FORM OF A BALLOT WE HAVE A REGULAR POSITION AND AN ALTERNATE POSITION AND THEN WE HAVE SUBMITTAL OF APPLICATIONS

[e. Submittal of applications to serve on the Keep Fort Pierce Beautiful Board.]

TO SERVE ON THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL BOARD THESE OF THE NEW APPOINTMENT SINCE THE BOARD WAS RECONFIGURED SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU COULD EACH TELL ME HE WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AMONG THE NAMES OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BUT FASCIST GENERALLY HOW WE GATHER INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE BOARD SAY YOU NEED TO GIVE ME YOUR NAME BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A RESOLUTION WE HAVE SOME AT-LARGE POSITIONS I WILL ASK YOU TO VOTE ON THOSE FROM THE NAMES THAT ARE LEFT OVER AND IN COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER NOT BEING HERE I THINK IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU AS A BODY TO APPOINT THAT POSITION KNOWING THAT IT IS GOING TO BE AN APPOINTMENT THAT WILL ONLY LAST UNTIL COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S REPLACEMENT HAS

BEEN SEATED APPROPRIATELY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I THINK THERE ARE THREE NAMES ON THEIR THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON THE COMMITTEE AND THEY FUNCTION, THEY ARE VERY DEDICATED TO THIS SO I AM MAKING A PITCH FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT

MEMBERS SINCE THEY WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER. >> OKAY AND THE NEXT ADDITIONAL ITEM ADDED TO THE AGENDA REGARDING THE MEMO FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY TONYA EARLY REGARDING THE SEATING ÃBOARD MEMBER. YOU EACH HAVE A COPY OF THAT.

>> I AM ASSUMING THAT EACH ONE OF YOU GOT A COPY OF THIS AND IT PAINS ME TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND VOLUNTEERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT THIS IS THE BOARD MEMBER AS YOU ALL NOW AND THERE ARE THREE CONDITIONS THAT I REMEMBER IN THE CITY CHARTER THAT ALLOWS US TO REMOVE ONE OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS AND IT TALKS ABOUT MISFEASANCE AND MALFEASANCE AND WHEREVER YOUR PLACES IN THE CATEGORY TO BE ON THE RECORD INDIVIDUALLY YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IT WAS A PROBATIONARY ISSUE THAT WAS CURRENT AND I THINK IT WAS FOR DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE IT WAS A NO CONTEST SO THAT'S WHY THE PROBATION STARTED. APPARENTLY, THIS YEAR, EARLIER THIS MONTH.

THERE WAS AN ARREST FORAGE ISSUED WHO THE INDIVIDUAL WAS ARRESTED AND SENTENCED TO 25 DAYS IN THE RIVER COUNTY JAIL THE NEXT COURT PROCEEDING BULLET POINT NUMBER TWO THERE'S AN ARRAIGNMENT DATE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR TOMORROW SO AND TO HOLD HIM IN HIGH REGARD BY NOW EACH ONE OF YOU DO YOU ALSO AND IT'S A CHALLENGE AND I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE IF THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION IN MY PERSONAL OPINION I AM ABOUT

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PEOPLE GETTING SECOND OR THIRD CHANCES HOWEVER SOMETIMES YOU NEED A BREAK AND YOU NEED TO TAKE A TIMEOUT AND I THINK I'M READY TO REMOVE THIS BOARD MEMBER AND ASK HIM TO SERVE IN A CAPACITY LATER ON BUT NOT IN THIS CAPACITY TODAY BASED ON THE INFORMATION SO I WOULD THINK THIS IS A MISFEASANCE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S RELATED TO THE OPERATION OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY ÃBUT IT IS A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP AND RESPONSIBILITY SO ASSUMING THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO OBVIOUSLY MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH THIS PERSON BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A SICKNESS THERE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, THIS APPOINTMENT, DISTRICT 1 AND BEFORE WE START I DO BELIEVE IT IS RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMISSION RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO WE CAN'T JUST SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY REPRESENTATIVE WE HAVE IN DISTRICT 1 AND THIS WAS YOU DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN SELECTING THIS PERSON BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU AS THE AUTHORITY AND THE RECOMMENDATION AND IT WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND WE HOLD IT IN HIGH REGARD AND WE DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT TOGETHER SO I AM PUTTING

YOU ON THE SPOT >> AND IF I CAN ADD I BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE AT HAND AND THEN PART B WAS GOING TO BE THAT COMMISSIONER, I RESPECT EXACTLY WHAT THE DISTRICT 1 COMMISSIONER'S DECISION WAS BACK IN THE DAY.

WE VOTED ON AND NOW WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE I WOULD EXPECT IF THERE WAS A NEW APPOINTMENT THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WOULD MAKE THAT SELECTION, ABSOLUTELY IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO

THIS BOARD MEMBER. >> CELESTE THE QUESTION.

IT PAINS ME TO RECEIVE THIS MEMO AND TO GO THROUGH THIS OCCURRENCE OF THINGS ON THIS PACKET OF INFORMATION AND I CAREFULLY READ IT AND QUITE FRANKLY I AM DISAPPOINTED THIS IS A PERSON THAT I HOLD IN HIGH REGARD IN HIGH ESTEEM AND HAS BEEN A CHAMPION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF ASPECTS AND I BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES AND THIRD CHANCES AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE THAT WE MAY NOT EVEN KNOW AND I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THAT ALSO THAT ANY POSITION THESE ARE VOLUNTEER TYPE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, THIS IS NOT A REMOVAL OF ANY KIND OF EMPLOYEE PER SE AND THIS IS A PERSON THAT WE ASKED TO STEP FORWARD AND TO SERVE CIVIL DUTY AND TO LEND THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE IN HELPING US THAT ISSUES WORK THE ISSUES AND REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND SO IT'S SOMETHING AS I LOOK AT THE FACTS AND THE MERIT OF WHAT IS BEFORE ME IT CONCERNS ME THAT I FURTHER READ ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT TOMORROW MAY BRING BECAUSE OF WHAT'S IMPENDING ON THIS DOCUMENT THAT THERE WILL BE A PROCEEDING TOMORROW WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL AND THAT'S CONCERNING ITS CONCERNING OF HOW WE LOOK AT THAT BUT I ALSO LOOK AT THE REPRESENTATION I LOOK AT THE BOARD I LOOK AT WHAT WE TASK THEM TO DO AND COMMISSIONERS IT'S A TOUGH DECISION, IT'S A RESILIENT COMMUNITY. I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SOMEONE WHO

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CAN FILL THE ROLE AND REPRESENT WHATEVER THE WILL IS OF HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS IS EITHER WAY A COMMUNITY WILL EMBRACE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE EITHER WAY I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT MR. SWEENEY OUR ATTORNEY, TO USE SOME TECHNICAL LEGAL TERMS I HAVE ONLY SPENT A LO TIME IN LAW SCHOOL AND THAT WAS NOT LONG ENOUGH AND I WAS ONLY THERE VISITING A RELATIVE. SO HELP ME WITH MALFEASANCE AND MISFEASANCE AND THE OTHERS, I

FORGOT. >> ARTICLE 12 OF THE CHARTER SUBSECTION 170 TALKS ABOUT THE ABILITIES AND EVERYTHING AND ANY MEMBER MAY BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY THE CITY COMMISSION FOR MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE OR NONFEASANCE OR UPON CONVICTION OF A FELONY IT'S NOT RELEVANT HERE, THE CRIMES ARE MISDEMEANORS SO TYPICALLY NONFEASANCE IS NOT SHOWING UP FOR WORK, NOT DOING YOUR JOB. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE.

MALFEASANCE IS DOING SOMETHING INTENTIONALLY WRONG THE STANDARD EXAMPLE IS STEALING.

THUS THE ONE. YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CEILING YOU STOLE.

MISFEASANCE FALLS IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S MOST TYPICALLY CLASSIFIED ALONG THE LINES OF YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG YOU MAY NOT HAVE INTENDED TO DO IT BUT IT WAS WRONG ENOUGH THAT IT BRINGS WHAT THE LAW CALLS ILL REPUTE ONTO THE ORGANIZATION AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT'S WHERE THIS FALLS. CATEGORICALLY, WHERE THIS WOULD FALL.

IN THE STATE ALSO AT CHAPTER 112.501 WISHES THE GENERAL SECTION OF FLORIDA STATUTES TALKS ABOUT A MUNICIPALITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE SOMEONE FOR CONVICTION OF A STATE MISDEMEANOR SO YOU DO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE APPROACHES AVAILABLE BUT AGAIN, ALL OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU IS ALL PUBLIC RECORD, VETTED FROM 2 DIFFERENT CLERK OF COURSE THIS IS SOMETHING ANYONE CAN SEE SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT WOULD MOST LIKELY FIT IN THE MISFEASANCE CATEGORY THAT'S ONLY AS IT APPLIES TO THE POSITION WITH THE UTILITY AUTHORITY ADVISORY BOARD POSITION IS NOWHERE IN THE CODE, THAT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT WE HAVE A MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IS PURELY AT WILL.

IT COULD BE FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE BUT THAT'S FOR YOU WILL LOOK FOR GUIDANCE ON THIS.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC FOR ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A REMOVAL OF A BOARD MEMBER IS SOMETHING THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMISSION

>> THAT'S CORRECT IN THAT CYBER REFER BACK TO OUR CHARTER NSR SECTION OF OUR CHARTER WHERE THIS IS A SUBSECTION BUT IT'S EXPLICIT AND UNEQUIVOCAL IN THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT THESE INDIVIDUALS. SUBMIT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS SITTING AS THE CHAIR.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> FROM MY OBSERVATION, HE HAS NOT DRIVEN HIMSELF TO THE MEETINGS, SOMEONE ELSE HAS DRIVEN HIM BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ON HIS OWN TIME AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THE CLERK RECORDS MYSELF AND ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED WAS VARYING ADDRESSES THAT WERE NOT NECESSARY.

THEY WERE ADDRESSES I COULD NOT PINPOINT THERE WAS AN ADDRESS GIVEN THAT WAS NOT IN FORT PIERCE, THERE WERE SOME ADDRESSES THAT DIDN'T JIVE ON THE DOCUMENT SO I AM PUZZLED BY

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THAT BUT I THINK THIS IS A VERY CONCERNING AND WHILE THIS PERSON HAS PERFORMED AS A BOARD MEMBER AND A BOARD CHAIRMAN AND HE HAS BEEN FAITHFUL FOR THE MEETINGS AND AS FAR AS I KNOW HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG IN HIS DUTY WITH THE FPU WAY I THINK THIS IS A SERIOUS PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR LIKE WE SAY WE ARE ALL FOR REDEMPTION AND FORGIVENESS BUT YOU REACH A POINT WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND WE REALLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE SEE AS A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR AND IT PAINS ME BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN A GOOD BOARD MEMBER AND HE HAS BEEN FAITHFUL IN ATTENDANCE AND HE READS THIS PACKET AND SO IT'S JUST A PAINFUL THING TO DO. BUT THAT'S WHY WE GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS AND WE HAVE MADE A BUNCH OF HARD DECISIONS TONIGHT.

>> I RECALL SOME OF MY TIME AS CHAIRMAN OF THE CIVIL SERVICE APPEALS BOARD THAT I WAS ON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND THE ONLY WAY THAT I GOT OFF OF THAT. I ACTUALLY WAS THE UTILITY BOARD AND THE ONLY WAY I GOT OFF OF THAT WAS TO BECOME A COMMISSIONER BUT IT SPEAKS TO YOU AND EXPERIENCE AND I REMEMBER SEVERAL DIFFERENT ISSUES AND ONE IN PARTICULAR TALKING ABOUT KEY PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND YOU REPRESENT THAT FACILITY THAT COMPANY NOT JUST YOUR JOB 8-5 AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE BOARD MEMBER OF THE UTILITY AUTHORITY HAS TO DO THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CONSIDERATIONS THAT FLOW IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW WE JUST PARTICIPATED IN A JOINT BOARD MEETING WITH THEM ON AN ISSUE THAT DEALT WITH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WAS FORT PIERCE AND I'M ALL FOR GIVING SECOND CHANCES BUT YOU GET TO A POSITION WHERE YOU ARE MAKING THOSE TYPES OF CALLS AND YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU BY AUTHORITY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE WALKING THE LINE AND YOU ARE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT THE PART THAT GETS ME IS THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TALKING TO ÃWHICH I DID AND THE CITY MANAGER NO ONE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE WAS NO DISCLOSURE THERE WAS NO REACHING OUT.

AND IT BOTHERS ME PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND I THINK OUR

PATH IS CLEAR AND Ã >> WITH THAT, TALKING ABOUT THE PATH AND BEING CLEAR, BASED UPON THIS, IF THIS WERE ENACTED IT WAS A REMOVAL IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE TO MOVE FORWARD IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING?

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST IMMEDIATELY IS SPRAYED >> I AM THINKING SEPTEMBER 30 WE LOSE A MEMBER ON THE UTILITY AUTHORITY JUST ROLLING THROUGH NORMAL ÃAND I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO VET THAT. YOU CAN SUBMIT IT AS YOUR CHOICE BUT THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEMWITH THAT BECAUSE 2 COMMISSIONERS ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK THAT PERSON AND IF YOU CAN'T AGREE, THE MAYOR BREAKS THE TIE. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A TIE IF ONE COMMISSIONERS MAKING THAT CALL. WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE AND STEPS WE CAN'T MAKE THIS CONTINGENT UPON FINDING SOMEONE ELSE. WE HAVE TO DO IT OR NOT DO IT AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE GO ON FROM THERE.

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>> SO IF WE WOULD DO THAT THE BOARD WOULD FUNCTION WITH 4 MEMBERS WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR A WHILE. SO.

>> I DON'T KNOW FROM OPERATION, WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING AT THIS WAY FOR SOME TIME NOW.

>> SO COMMISSIONER, WHAT YOU STATED, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, YOU MENTION SEPTEMBER 30 BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROCESS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FILLING THAT SEA

? >> WE EXAMINE THE ISSUE IN FRONT OF US WITH A BOARD MEMBER THAT HAS OBVIOUSLY CROSSED THE LINE AND WE MAKE A DECISION AND THEN OUR NEXT CONVERSATION SHOULD BE HOW DO WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO FILL THAT POSITION AND I AM THINKING REASONABLY WE CAN FILL IT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE FILL THE OTHER ONE SO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE PROCESS THAT WE SET FORTH IN THE RESOLUTION WHEN IT'S A CONSIDERATION OF 2 COMMISSIONERS FROM THAT DISTRICT BECAUSE I THINK THAT PROCESS GETS FLAWED A LITTLE BIT BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE RIGHT NOW I WOULD RATHER TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW.

>> THE ONLY THING I COULD ADD IS SUBSECTION C OF WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT ANY VACANCY SHALL BE FILLED FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM SO THE INDIVIDUAL I BELIEVE, HIS TERM WAS SET TO EXPIRE NEXT YEAR SO WHOEVER IS PLACED WOULD BE THERE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 2022.

>> SO WHY WAIT AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT? I HEAR RESPECT OF THE OTHER SITUATION BUT TO ME, WE HAVE OUR HANDS FULL OF DEALING WITH THIS ONE COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE ARE SLEEPY Ã SEEKING APPLICATIONS FOR THAT POSITION THAT WE HAVE TO VET

THROUGH >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TONIGHT.

>> ALL I WANT TO DO IS YOU CAN HAVE THAT ARGUMENT AND I AGREE WITH YOU I'M GOING TO RESPECT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE CONTINGENT UPON FINDING A REPLACEMENT.

>> AND THIS IS WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

>> I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE REPRESENTATION THERE I DON'T

KNOW WHEN THE NEXT BOARD MEETING IS >> THE FOURTH.

WHEN IS OUR MEETING? >> SO THE DAY AFTER

>> OKAY. JUST THINKING OUT LOUD. THERE COULD BE A CHANCE WE ARE MEETING BEFORE THE NEXT TO ADDRESS THIS AND REPLACE THAT.

>> VERY WELL. >> I THINK WHAT I HEAR US SAYING, WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE GROUNDS THAT THIS IS SERIOUS ENOUGH BEHAVIOR AND WE WERE UNAWARE OF IT, THAT THIS IS NO , THIS COULD BE MISFEASANCE AND VERY CONCERNING PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR OVER TIME OF WHICH WE WERE NOT AWARE. SOON IT JUST ANOTHER COMMENT AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT IF IT'S US OR AN INDIVIDUAL SERVING IN THE CAPACITY AS AN EMPLOYEE OR VOLUNTEER TO JUST BE OPEN WITH THE INFORMATION SUCH AS THIS THAT COULD

POTENTIALLY CAUSE >> YOU CAN GET HELP FOR THIS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WHICH OF THE CALL IT?

>> EAP. >> IT'S IMPORTANT WE ARE ENGAGED WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, VOLUNTEER OR AN EMPLOYEE MAY BE ÃIT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT

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IT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH AN ISSUE YOU HAVE TO SOMETIMES SPILL IT OUT AND LET IT BE.

>> SO, WE WOULD MEET ÃWE WOULD NEED A MOTION. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THIS, HOW DO WE CURE THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE PUBLIC COMMENT WEIGHS IN ON THIS THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER RESOLUTIONS IT WOULD BE A COMMISSION RESOLUTION THAT'S HOW THEY ARE APPOINTED ANYWAY SO THE SUGGESTION IS IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO REMOVE MR. MATTHEWS AS THE CHAIR OF THE UTILITY'S AUTHORITY AND THE CHAIR OF THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION >> YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE DOING THOSE TOGETHER?

>> EFFECTIVELY, YES BECAUSE THEY ALL STEM FROM THE SAME BEHAVIOR.

ASSUMING THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD IS APPOINTED BY Ã >> WELL, WE MISS THAT AT 4:15

PM >>. [LAUGHTER] SO.

YOU CAN'T DO THOSE TOGETHER. >> IT TAKES US ALL TO KEEP A STRAIGHT. SO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION?

>> YEAH IT JUST HURTS TO DO THIS. BUT LET IT BE ON THE RECORD IT'S A PAINFUL DECISION TO EVEN TALK ABOUT BUT YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE AND BE VOCAL WE HAVE SOME IMPORTANT DECISIONS TO BE MADE IN THE FUTURE WITH A BOARD MEMBER THAT WILL BE LEAVING IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS SO ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S HERE TONIGHT SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE MR. CHARLIE FRANK MATTHEWS FROM THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY BOARD EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY FOR MISFEASANCE BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN A MEMO FROM THE

ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. >> SECOND?

>> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> DISCUSSION?

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>.

PART-TIME DIRECTOR OF THE FPR A, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO SCHEDULE THIS FOR THE BOARD

MEETING? >> YES.

>> NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MY NAME IS LARRY WINTER 1931 CRESTVIEW DRIVE I APOLOGIZE IF YOU MENTION THIS EARLIER IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING I MENTIONED I HAVE A ÃPERMIT AND I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT GRANDFATHERED PERMITS OR PERMITS IN THE PROCESS I THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP OF THAT WAS CLARIFIED AND THE FEES THAT YOU PASSED TONIGHT I THINK YOU ARE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO UNDERGROUND AND RENT AND NOT REGISTER AT ALL.

JUST ONE MAN'S OPINION. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> >> SUSAN BAKER 1577 GUNPOINT DRIVE.

YOU ARE NOT BEING FAIR THREE OF YOU LIVE ON THE ISLAND AND THE RESIDENTS THERE WHO OPPOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THERE ARE MORE OF YOU AND THE VOTES CONSISTENTLY MOST OF US WHO DO PARTICIPATE IN SHORT-TERM RENTAL AS A SECOND PRIMARY WE ARE PAYING HIGHER TAXES AND YOU

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OPPOSE 1200 THAT IT WAS 259 WERE BACK TO 600. REALLY, YOU GET MORE FROM YOU WILL GET MORE IF YOU CHARGE LESS AND YET WE ARE BACK TO THIS AGAIN.

WE BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO FORT PIERCE WHICH FROM WHAT I HAVE GROWN UP IN MIAMI AND FLORIDA YOU DON'T HEAR NICE THINGS ABOUT FORT PIERCE AIR BMB HAS PUT YOUR NAME ON THE MAP WITH BRINGING PEOPLE HERE YOU ARE MAKING IT BAD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE FORT PIERCE A NICE PLACE TO BE SO LIKE I SAID YOU ARE PUTTING MORE PEOPLE IN HIDING SO IT WILL LEAVE A BAD TASTE IN PEOPLE'S MINDS AND THEN YOU JUST MOVE ON AND BUY HOMES ELSEWHERE BECAUSE OF THE END OF THE DAY IT'S NOT US DRIVING UP THE COST AND THEY WILL DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING IT AND THEY NEED MONEY TO PAY FOR THEIR HOMES.

THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE PLEASE COME

FORWARD. >>

>> MICHELLE. [INDISCERNIBLE] 715 S. OCEAN DRIVE I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT NOTHING TO THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO GRANDFATHERING AS YOU KNOW I HAVE 2 PERMITS ACTIVE AND ONE ON THE WAY NOTHING HAS MADE MENTION OF THE PERMITS IN PROCESS THIS IS ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS AND DISCRIMINATORY YOUR FEES ARE OUTLANDISH YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR LAW.YOU GUYS VIOLATE SUNSHINE LAW YOU DID NOT TAKE ANY CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO US, WHAT WE SOUGHT, YOU HIRED PEOPLE ON THE TASK FORCE THAT WERE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES, MICHAEL BRODERICK, REBECCA GUERRERO, LINDA COX, MARY GARCIA, PAT MURPHY, CHARLENE ADAIR, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.

FLORIDA GOVERNMENT AND THE SUNSHINE LAW FLORIDA STATUTE 286.01 STATE LONG AS REQUIRED MEETINGS OF GOVERNMENT BODIES OF THE PUBLIC AGENCIES TO BE TO THE OPEN PUBLIC LET THE RECORD STATE THAT NOBODY FROM THE TASK FORCE OPEN THE PUBLIC, MADE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE IN FACT I ASKED MS. COX OF THE DAY TO MEET WITH THE TASK FORCE WHICH SHE DENIED WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT MRS. COX TOOK SEVEN HOURS FOR MY FIRST PERMIT WHERE I SAT IN THE OFFICE FOR SEVEN HOURS FOR HER TO GIVE ME MY FIRST PERMIT AND ON TOP OF IT, SHE LOST MY PLANNING BOARD APPLICATION AND YOU EXPECT THIS AGENCY TO BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF THESE PERMITS? COME ON, REALLY? FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO LOOK IT UP ON THE RECORD IT'S THERE.