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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[a. Fort Pierce Farmers Market Week]

[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[a. Update on Council on Aging Activities by Darrell Drummond.]

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WE ALSO PROVIDED SOMETHING CALLED A TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO JUST CHECK

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ON THEM. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DOING COVID

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WAS THE ISOLATION OF MANY SENIORS BEING DISCONNECTED FROM THE COMMUNITY.

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SO WE WERE DOING A WELLNESS CHECK ON THEM ON A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY

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STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED. COMMUNITY TRANSIT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL BEGAN IN 1990 WITH ONE VAN TO WHICH WE WERE PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION TO SENIORS TO OUR FACILITY FOR ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

OVER THE YEARS IT GREW FOR ALL TRANSPORTATION FOR 30 YEARS. LAST YEAR THAT CHANGED AND ANOTHER PROVIDER WAS SELECTED WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE STRATEGY POSTS WITH SERVICE FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR ALL OF OUR CLIENTS THROUGHOUT ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND WE NOW HAVE A CONTRACT WHERE WE PROVIDE DOOR-TO-DOOR DEMAND SERVICE FOR BOTH MARTIN COUNTY.

WE DO TRANSPORTS OUTSIDE OF THAT FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND NEW HORIZONS AS FAR AS MIAMI AND ORLANDO.

SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO GROW THE BUSINESS A DIFFERENT WAY AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. YOU WILL SEE A PICTURE OF THE VEHICLES WE ARE SLOWLY MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE BRANDSING OF THOSE VEHICLES SO THEY WOULD BE DISTINGUISHED AS VEHICLES AND NOT THE OLD TRANSIT SYSTEM WHICH WE NO LONGER ARE APART OF.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR BRANDING AS WELL AND I THINK THEY HAVE A VERY ATTRACTIVE NEW SCHEME THAT'S OUT THERE THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE PUBLIC SHORTLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IS THE FACT WE ARE REQUIRED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVE DOLLARS FOR CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGHOUT AS WELL AS THE GRANTS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SEE.

OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR WAS APPROVED FOR $3.6 MILLION.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ARE IN LINE TO RECEIVE AS PART OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE ACT.

AND THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE COMING ON-LINE VERY SHORTLY.

WE ENCOURAGED BY IT BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CO-ORDINATE WITH SOME RESTAURANTS IF OTHERS TO PROVIDE HOT MEALS FOR RESTAURANTS TO EXPAND THE SERVICE FOR SENIORS AND TO PROVIDE MORE CAREGIVER SERVICE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE ADULTS BE ABLE TO REMAIN ACTIVE AND KNOW THAT THEIR LOVED ONES ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH REGARD TO THAT.

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I'VE OUTLINEDDED MOST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE PROICH ONE THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF IS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO THE COUNCIL ON AGING DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE AN ARM THAT ALLOWED FOR ACTIVITIES THAT WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY THE COUNCIL AGENT BUT A PRIVATE AGENT THAT'S OUR NURSE REGISTRY CALLED BETTER LIFE HOME CARE IN WHICH WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CONTRACT WITH TO GO INTO THE HOMES AND DO MANY OF THE SERVICES FOR TO DATE WE HAVE 129 CLIENTS AND THAT PROGRAM IS GROWING AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING TO GROW AS PART OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE WE ALSO PROVIDE A CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN WHICH WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH CLIENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED UP TO AND INCLUDING OUR FINDING, SOURCES AND RESOURCES THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY. WE PARTNER WITH MANY ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT THE DOLLAR THAT IS THE GOVERNMENT DOLLAR IS THE LAST DOLLAR THAT IS SPENT ON CLIENTS AND SO WE IT COSTS ABOUT $7,000 FOR A SENIOR TO REMAIN IN THE HOME AND GET THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED. AS IT RETHS TO NURSING HOME CARE THAT'S RUNNING AT $70,000 A YEAR.

SO THE ECONOMICS SUGGEST THIS IS DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO BOTH FOR THE HEALTH AND THE ECONOMICCALLY THAT IT THAT WE'RE LIVING IN. FINALLY, I WANTED TO INDICATE THAT WE HAVE TWO OTHER GROUPS ONE IS OUR CASE MANAGEMENT AS I SPOKE OF AND THE OTHER ONE IS OUR OUTREACH. AND YOU WILL FIND THAT DEPARTMENT WHICH IS LED BY NELLY DIAZ SHE'S OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT. WE ACTUALLY ADMINISTER THAT PROVIDES FOR ASSISTANCE FOR CLIENTS WHO NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THEIR YOUTUBE BILLS SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE NELLY JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE IN HER STAFF THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY ARE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THAT'S A QUICK SYNOPSIS. THERE REMAIN OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUT THE INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO THE FACT THAT OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE IN HERE. WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL AS BOTH CITIES WHO SIT ON OUR BOARD. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO THE MAYOR WHO HAS STEPPED IN AND BEEN IN THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. THAT INTERFACING THAT WE HAVE WITH REGARD TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. SO, THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING TO US JUST SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHAT WE DO AT THE COUNCIL OF AGING. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> DO YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS AND IF SO DO YOU ACCEPT VOLUNTEERS FOR SOME OF YOUR

PROGRAMS? >> YES, WE DO HAVE VOLUNTEERS. ONE OF THE MAIN AREAS COMMISSIONER IS WITH OUR MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM WHERE WE GET THE MAJORITY OF THEM.

I WILL TELL YOU IT HAS BEEN A BIT LESS OVER THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID BUT WE DO OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS TO COME IN AND DO VOLUNTEER WORK WITH US.

WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COLLEGE AND WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA STATE.

IS THAT HOW THEY ADDRESS IT UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA STATE.

>> FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY. [LAUGHTER] WITH THEIR MEDICAL PROGRAM WE HAVE A ROTATION FOR THEIR MED STUDENTS IF THEIR THIRD YEAR THAT THEY ACTUALLY WILL COME INTO THE COUNCIL OF AGING AND DO A PORTION OF THEIR CURRICULUM WITH US. WE ALSO DO EFFORTS WITH THE ST. LUCIE SCHOOL BOARD. WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING IN TERMS OF A HEALTHCARE PROGRAM IN THEIR FUTURE AND THEY ARE ABLE TO COME IN AND HAVE A SEMESTER WITHIN OUR DAYCARE AND THEY PARTICIPATE.

WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.

>> IF YOU WANTED TO VOLUNTEER WHAT'S THE BEST

WAY TO CONTACT YOU ALL? >> WE HAVE A WEBSITE, AND I BELIEVE THAT INFORMATION IS IN THERE.

I PROBABLY SAY IT WRONG BUT IT'S WWW.COUNCILOF AGING OF

SAYS LUCY. >> REPORTER: OUR PHONE NUMBER IS 772-866-8008 THERE'S A PAGE THAT EVEN ALLOWS FOR VOLUNTEERS AND FOR DONATIO

>> MR. DRUMMOND, JUST YOU MENTIONED THE ADULT DAYCARE PROGRAM. I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. HOW MANY PARTICIPANTS, PERHAPS, DO YOU HAVE IN THAT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW AND?

>> WE'RE LICENSED FOR 65 SENIORS A DAY.

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IT TYPICALLY RANGES ANYWHERE FROM 25 TO 45 ON ANY EVEN DAY BECAUSE SENIORS MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. IT HAS BEEN DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID AND WE'RE ONLY GETTING BACK UP TO SPEED AND I THINK WE'RE AVERAGING SOMEWHERE AROUND 20 CLIENTS AT THIS POINT. BUT, WE ARE LICENSED TO HAVE UP TO 65 CLIENTS AND I WOULD SAY THEY COME FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FROM LAKEWOOD PARK ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

>> YOU ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS THE POINT OF WHERE WERE THEY COMING FROM.

AND YOU SAY YOU SEEN A DROP OFF DUE TO COVID AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PICKUP OF WHOSE GOING ON NOW.

DO HAVE YOU ANY ACTIVE PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW FOR VACCINATIONS OR TESTING GOING ON WITH COUNCIL ON

AGING AND THE SENIORS? >> WE DID SOME TESTING BUT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS TO BOTH REGISTER SENIORS FOR THEIR VACCINATIONS AND FOR ALL HOME DOWNTOWN SENIORS WE WERE ABLE TO SCHEDULE TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS GOING TO THE HOME AND PROVIDE THEM

ABOUT THEIR VACCINATIONS. >> YOU DID, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I REMEMBER THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE COVID PARAMETERS HOW YOU ASSISTED. A.R.P. FUNDS THAT ARE COMING WHAT IS YOUR PLAN SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE? ARE YOU GOING TO MAYBE IMPLEMENT MORE BUSES OR NEW BRANDING WHAT IS YOUR IDEA THERE? THOSE DOLLARS ARE SPECIFICALLY GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ELDER AFFAIRS ON THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE ALLOWED.

AT THE STAFF LEVEL WE WILL LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE THINK THE GAPS ARE HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND TAKE YOU TO OUR BOARD AND ULTIMATELY THEY WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS. WE KNOW THERE'S A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION FOR SENIORS.

WE ALSO RECOGNIZE WE NEED TO GO IN AND DO SOME INTERVENTION IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR HOME.

THAT HAS BECOME AN ISSUE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO IN AND IN SOME INSTANCES ACTUALLY PROVIDE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE YOU WILL OF THOSE THAT ITEMS THAT WE CAN DO.

ANY AND EVERY TIME WE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MEALS WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT AS WELL.

>> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. >>> AND ELIGIBLITY IF SOMEONE'S LISTENING TO THIS, ARE THERE ELIGIBLITY REQUIREMENTS OR FOR THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS?

>> FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS GENERALLY SPEAKING 60 AND ABOVE OPENS THE DOOR. SOME OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE A CO-PAY REQUIREMENT BASED ON ELIGIBLITY AND INSURING OTHERS ARE UNDER THE FEDERAL FUND ACT IT JUST ALLOWS FOR SENIORS TO DONATE WHAT THEY AND THAT IS AN ANONYMOUS DONATION THAT THEY MAKE. FOR THE MAIN INTEREST INTO THE PROGRAMS IT'S 60 AND ABOVE.

WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO SOMEWHAT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WHAT USED TO BE SENIOR CITIZENRY AT 60 I AM PART OF THE GROUP THAT SAYS YOU ARE BARELY INTO

MIDDLE AGE AT 60. >> RIGHT.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

RIGHT. 60 IS THE NEW OR 40 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND HOW VULNERABLE OUR SENIOR CITIZENS ARE.

WE KNEW IT ALL ALONG BECAUSE OF PERHAPS TRANSPORTATION OR HEALTH OR BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IN THE NURSING HOMES THE SPREAD WAS SO MUCH MORE I THINK.

I REALLY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT ABOUT TRYING TO OFFER SERVICES TO SENIORS IN THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE MOST MENTALLY COMFORTABLE USUALLY AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH. I THINK THAT'S BEYOND ECONOMIC AS YOU SAID IT'S REALLY A KINDNESS AND A AND A RECOGNITION OF TAKING CARE OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS MANY OF WHOM HAVE NO FAMILY AROUND OR HAVE NO SUPPORT SYSTEM AND MANY NEED COMPANY.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF A RECOGNIZE OF HELPING OUR SENIORS THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUPPORT.

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PROVIDE THEM WITH ACCESS SO THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE

ABLE TO CONTACT. >> THEN TEACH THEM HOW TO USE IT. BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE STILL AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT.

>> YES, VERY MUCH. WELL, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND I'M PLEASED TO SERVE ON THE COUNCIL ON AGED. I HAVE ENJOYED IT SO FAR EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD VIRTUAL MEETINGS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[b. Presentation of Florida’s Turnpike Enterprise (FTE) Project #423374-1, PD&E Study to widen the Turnpike from Jupiter to Fort Pierce]

>> NEXT IDEA ON THE AGENDA IS FLORIDA'S TURNPIKE PROJECT TO WIDEN THE TURN BIKE FROM JUPITER TO FORT PIERCE. WE DO MEMBERS HERE GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE THAT WILL AFFECT THE ENTIRE REGION.

I WILL HAVE HIM INTRODUCE HIMSELF.

>> WELCOME, SIR. I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS ALSO WITH ME LITERALLY HAVING MY BACK IS THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER HE'S SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE WITH ME. MR. MIMS DIDN'T TELL YOU 45.

>> I COULD HAD ABOUT 145. IT'S OF GREAT INTEREST TOFORD PIERCE FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

WE ARE MOVING ALONG SHOWING WHERE YOU WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE FUTURE THEN ALSO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK.

SO THE REFRESHER IS THE PROJECT COVERS THREE DIFFERENT COUNTIES SO THE ALTERNATIVE IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS CONSIDERED IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT IT SOUNDS NO BUILD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVEN'T ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THE TURNPIKE'S PROGRAM. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE WE HAVE SEVERAL ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. BUT THE DISADVANTAGES ARE THAT WE DO SEE INCREASED CONGESTION NOT ONLY ON THE TURNPIKE BUT IT SPILLS OUT AT OUR INTERCHANGES AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA WHERE THERE'S DESPERATE NEED FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EMERGENCY EVACUATION NO IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT. AS WE LOOK TO DEVELOP OUR PREFERED ALTERNATIVE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC NEEDS IN 2045. SO IT'S NOT THE TRAFFIC TODAY IT'S THAT TRAFFIC 20 PLUS, YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.

ONCE AGAIN WE ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE ACCESS REALLY THIS SECTION OF THE TURNPIKE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SAFEST ROAD POSSIBLE.

WE WANT TO MINIMIZE OUR IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT THEN WE FROM THE OUR ULTIMATE VISION IS TO HAVE EIGHT LANES WHAT THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE IS REPLACEMENT OF NUMEROUS BRIDGES ALSO LOOKING AT WIDENING OF THE THOMAS ALSO REPLACEMENT OF ALL THE STRUCTURES SO ALL THE LOCAL ROADS THAT COULD CROSS OVER THE TURNPIKE AND THE ADDITION OF THE ALL ELECTRONIC TOLL OF THE TWO NEW INTERCHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN OUT THERE THAT WE STARTED BUILDING THESE LARGE SO THAT'S OUR OUR STEP INTO THE FORAY OF ALL ELECTRONICLING TO WHICH WE CALL THE TICKET SYSTEM. WHICH YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH PICKING UP THE TICK CARDS AND PUNCHING THEM OUT.

AND ALSO, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PARTS THAT WE'VE

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PRESENT THE IS THE POTENTIAL NOISE BARRIER LOCATIONS THAT'S ALWAYS VERY MUCH A CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES ADJACENT TO THE TURNPIKE IN LOCATING WHERE THOSE BARERS ARE POTENTIALLY.

>> SO CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT A GANTRY IS.

>> IT'S A BIG SIGN STRUCTURE THAT GOES ACROSS THE TURNPIKE OR THAT'S HOLDING THE SIGNS.

THESE ARE HOLDING THE TRANSPONDER.

>> LIKE HAVE YOU IN THE ORLANDO AREA.

GOT IT. >> ALSO WE DO TOLL BY IT WILL YOU WILL TAKE A PICTURE OF YOUR PLATE SO MAKE SURE YOU SMILE WHEN IT DOES THAT AND THEN GETS PROCESSED THROUGH OUR BACK OFFICE. THEN WE GET A BILL.

>> THEN WE BILL YOU AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

OKAY, THANK YOU. >> HERE'S A PICTURE OF WHAT THE TURNPIKE IS TODAY. ONE OF THE UNIQUE FEATURES THE TURNPIKE HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO IN THAT PURPLE AREA.

THE ONLY DO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LINES SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT INSTEAD OF LIKE A STANDARD WIDENING WE HAVE TO WIDEN AWAY FROM THEM.

SO ALL OF OUR WIDENING IS OCCURRING TO THE WESTSIDE OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY. YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS WHAT THAT ULTIMATE EIGHT LANE SECTION WILL LOOK LIKE FOUR LANES IN EACH DIRECTION. SO SO WE DO HAVE PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IMPROVEMENTS AT THE MARTIN HIGHWAY INTERCHANGE, PORT ST. LUCIE BOULVARD, AND OKEECHOBEE ROAD STATE ROUTE 70. THEN THE TWO NEW INTERCHANGE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE MADE IT THROUGH OUR PROCESS IS A PARTIAL INTERCHANGE AT CROSS TOWN PARKWAY IS JUST NORTH OF PORT ST. LUCIE NEAR THE SERVICE PLAZA AND THEN MIDWAY ROAD WHICH IS JUST KIND OF IN THE SOUTHERN

LIMITS OF THE CITY. >> SO FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT EVERY YEAR THE TURNPIKE LOOKS AT POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR PROJECTS ALONG OUR SYSTEM.

AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS TWO PROJECTS BUT IT'S JOINED AT THE HIP IS A WIDENING. THEN ANOTHER PROJECT WE HAVE FUNDED FOR IS IMPROVEMENTS AT THE MARTIN HIGHWAY.

SO THAT'S FROM 22 WHICH RIGHT NOW WE'RE SITTING IN FISCAL YEAR 22 FOR THE TO 26 THESE ARE ONLY FUNDED FOR DESIGN. THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN THE BULLDOZER IS COMING OUT JUST YET. SO AS I MENTIONED WE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 22ND. WE PROVIDED MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE.

WE HAD TWO IN-PERSON VENUES. ONE IN MARTIN COUNTY AND ONE HERE IN ST. LUCIE. YOU SEE WE HAD A TOTAL OF ABOUT 84 FOLKS ATTEND THAT MEETING.

THEN WE HAD A VIRTUAL WEB ANNIVERSARY ON-LINE WHICH WE HAD 102 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE SO REALLY GREAT PARTICIPATION AT THAT I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED AT THAT.

THEN ALSO FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE SOME OF THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT WE HAD A LISTEN-ONLY TELEPHONE NUMBER THEY COULD AT LEAST CALL IN AND LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS OCCURRING.

WE HAD AS I EARLIER NOTED. WHERE THE BARRIER WALLS WERE AND WEREN'T FOR THE NOTICE BARRIERS.

IT'S A NICE DOCUMENT IT'S VERY LONG BUT VERY INTENSE SOME WERE ABOUT THE CHANGEMENT IN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH OVERALL TIMING OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT REALLY IMPACTS FOLKS IS WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION

OCCURS. >> IT'S TREASURE COAST TURN TURNPIKE.COM. YOU WILL COME UP TO THE PAGE THERE ON THE RIGHT IF YOU CLICK ON THAT PUBLIC HEARING EXHIBIT ROOM THOSE ARE ALL THE EXHIBITS THAT WE HAD AT THE IN-PERSON LOCATION AND ALSO AVAILABLE DURING THE VIRTUAL FORMAT OF THAT. SO THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE ALL PREPARED AND THERE FOR YOU. THE TURNPIKE ALWAYS ENCOURAGINGS PUBLIC INPUT. AT THE MEETING WITH VERY OPTIONS FOR FOLKS TO TURN IN THEIR COMMENT FORMS. THERE'S A WAY ON THE WEBSITE YOU CAN DIRECT MESSAGE ME.

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ALSO WE ACCEPT U.S. MAIL. THERE'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION AT THE TURNPIKE AND ALSO MY PHONE NUMBER.

I'VE GOTTEN MANY APHONE CALLS FOR COMMENTS.

AND FOR TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING RECORD, WE'RE ASKING THAT ALL COMMENTS BE POSTMARKED OR RECEIVED BY AUGUST HAVE -- AUGUST 11TH. PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING EFFORT IS AUGUST 11TH. WITH THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENT'S.

YOU MENTION THE PART ABOUT THE TENTH ONE ABOUT NOISE THEY JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE POTENTIAL NOISE BARRIERS ARE. AS PARSE OF OUR ANALYSIS WE LOOK AT WHAT THE NOISE IS OF THE FUTURE TURNPIKE AND THERE'S THRESHOLDS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW BASED ON STAT IT A OUT REALLY ROLLS UP INTO U.S. D.O.T. DOCTRINE.

SO THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NOISE BARERS ARE NEAR THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO WITH THAT WE'VE SEEN THE NOISE BARRIERS AS WE GO INTO OUR SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO WE CAN ASSUME THAT A LOT OF THAT WILL BE ALONG THERE THERE ARE PROS AND CONS THE NOISE BARRIER WON'T TURN OFF THE SOUND IT'S NOT A MUTE BUTTON IT TURNS THE VOLUME DOWN JUST ENOUGH WE HAVE ABOUT 50 MILES OF NOISE BARRIER.

>> 50. >> 5-0.

>> THE FIRST 10 OR 12 MILES IS THROUGH THAT STRETCH IN NORTHERN PALM BEACH THEY DON'T EQUAL BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE LOOKING AT HUMAN EARS NOT WILDLIFE.

>> SO THE TURNPIKE IS VERY COMMITTED TO THE NOISE WALL PROGRAM AS LONG AS WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AS LONG AS THE INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET FORTH. JUST ONE LAST QUESTION.

SO WITH THIS AND THE WIDENING OF THE ROADS WHAT POPS TO MY MIND IS SAFETYPAND C, IT ANTICIPATED SAFETY STUDIES OF WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE THAT CAN IMPABT, OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRE DISTRICT HAVING TO GET OUT THERE.

AND THAT IMEXPECTED THEM GREATLY CONCERN ABOUT THAT GOING FROM TWO NOW WHICH WE HAVE MAJOR ISSUES OUT THERE TO FOUR LANES OUT THERE AND THAT'S IMPACTING THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY RESIDENTS. SAFETY IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT.

TO MAKING SURE WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT OUR HOPE IS, RIGHT NOW, LET ME BACK UP TO FIRST PART ABOUT THE SAFETY ANALYSIS. AS PART OF WHAT WE CALL OUR INTERCHANGE ACCESS REQUEST, OR WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INTERCHANGES AND THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERCHANGE, OUR TRAFFIC TEAM LOOKS AT THE SAFETY AND LOOKS AT THE HISTORIC CRASHES AND BASED THAN THEY CAN KIND OF PREDICT INTO THE FUTURE WHAT POTENTIAL CRASHES THERE WILL BE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO AS PART OF THAT ANALYSIS. THEY DO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THOSE WITH THE WIDENING THERE MAY BE LESS.

TYPICALLY THERE'S LESS CRASHES.

WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERCHANGE THERE ENDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT LESS CONFLICTS AT THOSE LOCATIONS BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING THAT CAPACITY.

BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IT'S FROM THE CONGESTION. IT'S SHOWS REAR ENDS COLLISION THOSE FOLKS WANTING TO MAKE A QUICK LANE CHANGE WHEN THEY DON'T YOU KNOW WHEN THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. SINCE WE HAVE A VERY NARROW AND SMALL CORRIDOR, IT KIND OF COMPOUNDS THOSE ISSUES AND CONCERNS. SO WITH THE WIDER TURNPIKE.

THAT HELPS REBELIEVE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THE TURNPIKE'S BOWL IS ZERO FATALITIES AND ZERO CRASHES

THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO GET TO. >> BUT NO SPECIFIC NUMBERS ON THAT. CAN YOU GET US ANYTHING? I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE LOOK OF THE DATA OF THAT GOING FROM FOUR LANES. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND OF COURSE PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS VEER OFF TO THE RIGHT AND GO INTO THE WOUNDS AND AVOID THAT BUT NOT WITH FOUR LANES. THE IMPACT ACROSS FOUR LANES COULD BE I'M REALLY CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY DATA FROM

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OTHER AREAS IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET MY HEAD AROUND TO UNDERSTAND.

I DO SIT ON THAT FIRE BOARD AND I'M CONCERNED WITH THAT AND HOW THAT MAY IMPACT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER ONE WE'RE PREPARED BUT ALSO WITH PREPARATION THAT COMES TO COSTS AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THIS IS MORE OF A CURIOSITY YOU TALK ABOUT 20, 25 YEARS FROM NOW HOW THIS ROAD WILL BE PROBABLY MORE NEEDED. THE ENTIRE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY IS GOING TO CHANGE WITHIN THE NEXT 20 TO 25 YEARS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT INTO THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY GOING FORWARD. THAT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THE TURNPIKE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FOREFRONT LEADERS IN THIS FIELD.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY BUILT A PURPOSE-BUILT FACILITY OUT IN POLK COUNTY CALLED SUN TRACKS WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THIS PORTION OF THE DOWN TO INDIAN TOWN ROAD THAT ARE OPERATING AUTONOMOUSLY BUT NOT NECESSARILY WITH ROADSIDE EQUIPMENT.

IN OUR STUDY IN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

EVEN IF WE INSTALLED IT NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE OUT OF DATE AND YOU KNOW OBJECT EXTRA LETT ADDING THAT TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR ROADWAY SYSTEM. WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET VENDORS OUT THERE TO TEST THEIR VEHICLES WE HAVE LIKE A TWO AND A HALF MILE TRACK THAT BASICALLY GO AROUND LIKE DAYTONA GO ROUND AND ROUND WITH THEIR AUTOMATEIVE VEHICLES SO THEY CAN TEST THOSE WE ARE CHANGING SO FAST RIGHT NOW THAT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IN 20 YEARS THEY'RE GOING TO LAUGH AT SOME OF THE THINGS THE TURNPIKE WE DO HAVE CAMERAS SO WE DO HAVE ALREADY SOME PART OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN THE SYSTEM SO WE'RE UTILIZING THAT AS OKAY THAT'S OUR BACKBONE WHAT COULD WE EXPAND FROM THAT BASED ON TODAY TOMORROW THAT WILL BE SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY MUCH ON THE TURNPIKE'S MIND. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> TO WE DID RECEIVE THAT QUESTION A LOT OF PEOPLE ALWAYS QUESTION WHERE YOU KEEP DOING THE CAPACITY WIDENING THE EXISTING FACILITY.

WE ARE NOT EVEN SURE THAT WHETHER THE CAPACITY YOU REALLY NEED TO DO ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENT CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE NOT BECAUSE MUCH MORE IN THE FUTURE WHERE THEY ARE FROM THE RESEARCH THEY HAVE BEEN KEY FOCUSED ON THIS THIS TOPIC.

HOWEVER IT ALSO DISABLED PERSON THEY CANNOT DRIVE ON THE OTHER HANDS IT'S BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCE OF THE TECHNOLOGY THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE THE FUTURE SO HOW MUCH REDUCED TRAFFIC DO WE BRING TO THE FUTURE SYSTEM WE DON'T KNOW. BUT D.O.T. FOCUS ON THIS ONE WE TRY TO COME UP WITH A REASONABLE METHODOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE TRAFFIC IN THE FUTURE.

>> GOOD, THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THE ST. LUCIE T.P.O. TONIGHT. SEE YOU ON WEDNESDAY.

TO START LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL CHANGES YOU KNOW NOT JUST ALWAYS LIKE YOU SAID SIR NOT ALWAYS GOING WIDER BUT FIGURING OUT MORE

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EFFICIENT WAYS TO TRAVEL. STAFF IS DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THAT FROM THE T.P.O. PERSPECTIVE.

>> ONE THING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND I WAS GOING ASK IT ON WEDNESDAY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MIDWAY ROAD AND THE NEW INTERCHANGE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN YOUR FUNDED LIST BUT I ALSO DAN SEE YOU TALK ABOUT INTERCHANGES THAT WERE FUNDED.

YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT SURFACING OR WIDENING?

>> RIGHT NOW THE ONLY INTERCHANGE THAT IS FUNDED IS THE MARTIN HIGHWAY FOR DESIGN ONLY.

MIDWAY ROAD HAS A LOT OF FACTORS WITH THAT.

ONE, RIGHT NOW FACED ON OUR INITIAL ANALYSIS THE TURNPIKE HAS TO LOOK AT BENEFIT COST RATIO BECAUSE WE ARE SELF-FUNDED THROUGH USER FEES THE TOLLS WE HAVE BONDS IT'S'.2. WHERE THE TURNPIKE STARTS TO RAISE OUR EYEBROWS WE START TO LOOK AT 1.2.

SO BASED ON'.2 IT'S NOT GENERATING ENOUGH TRAFFIC TO KIND OF PAY FOR ITSELF I THINK IT'S LIKE 15, 20 YEARS I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT. THAT WHICH CAN REPAY THAT.

>> SO AND JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU CO-ORDINATE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY ON INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS LIKE A JENKINS ROAD. JUST TO THE EAST OF THE TURN BIKE IF THAT WERE EVER TO CONNECT AND GO THROUGH I THINK YOUR DATA NUMBERS WILL QUICKLY MOVE THAT DATE FROM 15 TO 20 YEARS TO FIVE TO 10 YEARS.

WE HAVE TO DO P.D. AND E ON JENKINS ROAD HERE SOON.

JUST CONSIDER THAT IF YOU COULD.

I KNOW THE T.P.O. WHAT'S SINCE UPDATED THEIR REGIONAL OR COUNTY MODEL SO EVERY YEAR THE TURNPIKE RELOOKS AT OUR TRAFFIC HEY, WAIT A MINUTE THIS IS KIND OF CHANGED OVER THE PAST TWO, THREE YEARS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE NOW. SOME OF THESE FUTURE PLANS YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE OF THOSE FUTURE PLANS AND THOSE LOCATIONS WOULD BE I'LL CALL THEM DEAD INTERCHANGES OR SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT.

WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH

THESE INTERCHANGE LOCATIONS. >> I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR US AS A CITY AS A WHOLE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS OR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS LOOKING AT OUR ZONES AND WHO'S KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR MY QUESTION FROM CITY STAFF IS SO STAY IN TOUCH WITH ONE ANOTHER. WE HAVE A BIG DEVELOPMENT SO

10LY HAPPENING. >> FOR FOR THOSE FOLKS TO TRAVEL IT'S CUMBERSOME BECAUSE IF THEY WERE TO GO TO CROSS TOWN PARKWAY, OR CITY OF FORT PIECE.

YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL LOCAL ROUTES AND YOU KNOW THAT'S CONGESTION. FROM UP HERE.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH YOU AND COMMUNICATING ALL THE TIME.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO TELL ME 15 TO 20 YEARS AND THAT'S OKAY, JUST BE READY AND BE NICKBLE TO MOVE THAT ALONG BECAUSE THE TREASURE COAST IS HAPPENING AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU WILL SHARE IT ON WEDNESDAY, TOO, WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNGER THEY ALWAYS TALK AND I SAY FROM THE MOUTH OF BABES, RIGHT WHEN WE WOULD TRAVEL WHEN WE WERE COMING BACK HOME THEY WOULD NOTICE THAT THE ROAD WOULD GET BUMPIER. THEY WOULD SAY WE MUST BE CLOSE TO HOME. HOW DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT WELL THE ROAD'S BUMPY. AND I SAID OH, I GET IT.

SO I'VE ALWAYS PETITIONED D.O.T. AND THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY YET AGAIN FROM THE MOUTH OF BABES PLEASE DO YOUR BEST TO RESURFACE OUR ROADWAYS THEY NOTICE IN THE

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ORLANDO AREAS NICING. >> ROADS ON THE INTERSTATES THEY SAY OH, BY THE WAY, BUMPY ROADS AGAIN.

>> A LOT OF REVENUE UP THERE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE HAVE WE JUST FINISHED RESURFACING PORTIONS OF ST. LUCIE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> I THINK WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 70 THIS IS I THINK THE NEXT CHUNK AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WAS NOW GOING TO SAY THANK YOU.

THE PLAZAS LOOK GREAT, BY THE WAY.

YOU GUYS AND THAT'S YOUR INVESTMENT MONEY, RIGHT.

YOU TAKE THE PLAZAS THEMSELVES WHEN YOU REVAMP

THEM AND CHANGE THEM AROUND. >> YEAH, THE PLAZA IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CONCESSIONARY PARTNERS SO WE WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WE REFRESH THE PLAZAS.

WE ARE GLASS WE CAN REFRESH THAT.

I KNOW THERE'S A NEW CAMPAIGN I KNOW THEY'RE COMING THROUGH WITH SOME NEW STUFF THAT WAS FORMED UP SOME SOME ADDITIONAL BRANDSING AND I THINK THE PLAZAS ARE BEING ASSIGNED LIKE MANATEES ARE IN ONE LOCATION. AND I THINK THE ORLANDO AREA IS LIKE SPACE SHUTTLE AND SPACE.

WE WERE JUST VISITING THE PLAZA WITH OUR LEADERSHIP SEEING WE HAD THE TESLA CHARGING STATIONS ARE GETTING COMPLETED THERE. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE INVEST BACK INTO THE PLAZAS THOSE MONIES PROVIDE THOSE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES. THANK YOU.

>> I WORKED MAY WAY THROUGH COLLEGE AT THE MARIO THE HOT SHOT AT THE FORS PIERCE TURNPIKE SO THAT'S A -- FORT PIERCE TURNPIKE. SO THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO.

>> ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, MA'AM.

>> NICELY DONE. JUST TO REITERATE FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING, SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, THIS THIS FOUR LANE WIDENING IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A 15 TO IF I YEARS PROJECT IS THAT

WHAT YOU'RE PROJECTING. >> IF I HAD A FOGGY CRYSTAL BALL IT WILL PROBABLY BE QUITE A WHILE.

>> QUITE A WHILE IS YEARS. LET ME GO TO MY CHEAT SHEET BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A QUESTION.

THAT IS NUMBER 36 IN OUR WIDENING NEEDS LIST SO LET'S JUST SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS AHEAD OF THIS ONE CURRENTLY. AS I MENTIONED PORTIONS NEAR MARTIN HIGHWAY ARE JUST NOW GETTING INTO THE DESIGN PHASE OF OUR WORK PROGRAM THAT'S EVERY FIVE YEARS AND THAT ONE IS NUMBER 20 SO THAT'S STILL FOUR, FIVE YEARS. AS I MENTION EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT OUR WHERE OUR NEEDS ARE MAKE SURE WE FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS BASED ON WHERE THAT TRAFFIC IS GROWING. SO THOSE OF US WHO REMEMBER TRYING TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY FOR THE 2004 HURRICANES AND KNOW WHERE THE I-95 NORTH WERE WERE APRIL 24-HOUR NIGHTMARES THAT RELIEF ISN'T GOING TO COME FOR QUITE SOMETIME ALTHOUGH I THINK THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERATION THIS PROBABLY ISN'T YOUR DEPARTMENT OF MAKING THOSE LANES ALL THE SAME WAY SHOULD THAT WE HAVE

THAT OCCURRENCE AGAIN? >> IF WE MAKE IT ALL ONE WAY NORTH BOUNDS THERE ARE ALL RESOURCES NEEDED TO DO THAT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE F.H.P. OFFICERS A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONES. BUT THEN THE NEGATIVE PART OF THAT IS THOSE RESPONSE VEHICLES YOU KNOW THE POWER COMPANIES THE TRUCKS BRINGING IN THE WATER THEY CAN'T GET SOUTHBOUND BECAUSE IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY OUT YOU KNOW THOSE RELIEF HORSES CAN'T GET HERE. BACK IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO I WAS ACTUALLY STATIONED AT THE CANOE CREEK PLAZA AND

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I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY CARAVANS OF UTILITY TRUCKS WERE COMING IN THE SOUTH BOUNDS DIRECTION AND FUELING

UP AT THE SERVICE PLAZA. >> RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY WERE

COMING DOWN TO HELP. >> THEY WERE COMING DOWN TO HELP AND STAGE. IF WE SHUT IT DOWN FOR ONLY EXIT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN IT WOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER FOR THE RECOVERY PROCESS. THAT'S A GOOD EXPLANATION.

I'M GLAD I ASKED THAT. IT'S VERY DELICATE BALANCE

AS TO THE NEEDS. >> WE ARE GETTING SO MANY PEOPLE A DAY ESPECIALLY IN COVID APPARENTLY THAT REALLY RAMPED UP PEOPLE CAME DOWN HERE TO SO YOU ARE DOING THE

BEST YOU CAN. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY BEING ABLE TO OPEN THE SHOULDERS FOR ADDITIONAL TRAVEL LANE. SOMETHING THAT AFTER A LOT OF THESE EVENTS THAT THE SECRETARY DIRECTED TO US LOOK AT WHERE WE COULDN'T DO THAT AND TRY TO DETERMINE A PLAN THAT MAY WE CAN TO PUSH FOLKS OUT OF HARMS'S WAY.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

VERY INFORMATIVE. I THINK I'LL SEE YOU WEDNESDAY BECAUSE I'M SITTING IN FOR YOU MR. JOHNSON. YOU WILL SEE ME AGAIN.

ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHTY. OKAY THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ORDINANCE 21 BY THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-001 - An Ordinance amending the City’s Comprehensive Plan to update the Water Supply Facilities Work Plan. SECOND/ADOPTION READING]

CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, MEANDSING THE CITY OF FORT PIECE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY IN ORDER TO MEET UPDATED STATEN ISLANDER TO REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THE COORDINATION OF LANE USE AND WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.

TO ADOPT BY REFERENCE AND TO MAINTAIN INTERNAL CONSISTENTCIES OF AND WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIV PLAN.

FOR THE SECOND READING. >> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> SO APPROVED. >> SECOND.

THE MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

"ROLL CALL

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-020 - Text Amendment to Section 125-187: "Use Table" in order to allow for Dwelling Rentals to be permitted by right in every zoning district. SECOND READING]

21-020 ARTICLE FOUR SECTION AMENDING THE USE TABLE TO ALLOW DWELLING RENTEDDALS TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN EVERY ZONING DISTRICT. AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD?

>> MICHELLE DARRYLWALK. WITH REGARDS TO THE USE TABLE YOU GUYS IMPLEMENTED THIS TABLE FORCED A BUNCH OF US TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROCESS.

I HAVE THE LIST FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE B.T.R.S. SO, SINCE 2015, YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED US JUMPING THROUGH DIFFERENT HOOPS WHETHER IT BE R-1, R-2, R-4 HH SOME PEOPLE WERE AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO HAVE A B.T.R. SOME HAD TO HAVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ALL THE WHILE YOU GUYS HAVE LOST HOME RULE A LONG TIME AGO WITH ALL OF YOUR CHANGES PREVIOUS BUT YOU STILL INSISTED THAT WE HAVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT REFLECTED WITH THESE TABLES. OKAY.

NOW I STAND BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND THE REST OF US ALL THAT HAVE EXISTING PERMITS WE ARE ENTITLED TO A DINOBLE REVIEW. YOU GUYS HAVE NOT NOTICED ANYBODY PROPERLY, HOWEVER, I AM GLAD YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO FINALLY FOLLOW THE LAW BECAUSE THE LAW STATES THAT YOU HAVE LET ANYBODY DO THIS.

THE STATE OF FLORIDA PUT THAT IN THEIR ATTORNEY GENERAL REVIEW. HOWEVER, HERE I STAND BEFORE YOU GUYS AGAIN LIKE SO MANY OTHER TIMES WHERE YOU JUST MAKE THESE KNEE-JERK REACTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND IT'S JUST UNLAWFUL, COMPLETELY UNLAWFUL. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS ON THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT.

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ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAD STATED ON THE RECORD WAS THAT YOU CLAIM THAT THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE GOING TO CAUSE ALL THESE PROBLEMS. NOW YOU'RE CLAIMING YOU'RE GOING TO EP IT ON UP FOR EVERYONE AND FOLLOW THE LAW WHICH IS CONTRADICTORY TO YOUR OTHER PORTION. HOWEVER I HAVE LITERALLY PULLED THE RECORDS THE POLICE RECORDS FOR THE THREE HOTELS ON THE ISLAND THAT ARE ALL IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. OKAY.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN EXCESS OF 400 POLICE CALLS.

BUT YET, SOME PEOPLE HAVE CLAIMED THAT THERE'S SOME IMPACT THAT'S GOING TO BE OCCURRING WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OKAY FOR EVERY DISTRICT TO HAVE IT BUT YET WHAT ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU MADE JUMP THROUGH THE HOOPS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? THERE'S SEVERAL OF US ON THIS LIST.

AND WE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN YET YOU GUYS HAVE REFUSED TO ADDRESS THE GRANDFATHERING PROCESS AND YOU GUYS ARE ALL IGNORING THIS AND IT CANNOT BE IGNORED.

YOU CAN'T JUST START SOMETHING AND THEN JUST SAY OKAY, WE DECIDED AS A GROUP WITHOUT CONSENT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE THESE TO JUST DO THIS RANDOMLY.

OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO CHARGE US $600 PER UNIT YET HAVE YOU CHARGED THE HOTEL LESS THAN $100 FOR 70 UNIT

HOTEL? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> ROLL CALL]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-022 AN ORDINANCE

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-022 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to include three (3) properties at or near 3171 Morning Dew Lane, 3051 South 25th Street, and 2503 Edwards Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA TO INCLUDE THREE PARCELS AT NEAR 3171 MORNING DEW LANE, 30 1 SOUTH 25TH STREET AND 2503 EDWARDS ROAD IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE CITY TAX ROLLS AS OF JANUARY 21, 2022 ESTABLISHING THE ZONING DESIGNATION ESTABLISHED IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. DIRECTING REVISION THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD? SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAINMENT A MOTION.

>> VOTE FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL

[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-023 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to a property at or near 186 Melton Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-023.

AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMBS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIECE, FLORIDA, TO INCLUDE A PARCEL AT OR NEAR 196 MELTON DRIVE IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, SHOWN ON EXHIBIT 5 DIRECTING THE PROPERTY PRAISER TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE TAX ROLLS JANUARY 1, 2022 DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. LUCY COUNTY. DIRECTING REVISION OF THE BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEV CLAUSE -- SEVERANCE CLAUSE.

>> THIS IS SECOND READING. SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> ROLL CALL]

[e. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-024 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to include four (4) properties at or the northeast corner of King Orange Drive and Mura Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

>>> ORDINANCE 21-024 ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITIES OF FORT PIERS, FLORIDA TO INCLUDE FOUR PARCELS KING ORANGE AND MARA DRIVE -- MURA DRIVE TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE CITY TAX ROLLS DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HERE IN SUBSCRIBED PROPERTY DIRECTING THE FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR OFFICER. DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE PLOIFG FOR SEVRABILITY CLAUSE. HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR

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AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME

FORWARD? >> SEEING NO ONE IT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-025 REZONING OF NINE (9) PARCELS LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2496 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY, 2 DU/ACRE (E-2) AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL (C-3) TO COMMERCIAL PARKWAY (CP-1). SECOND READING]

>> ORDINANCE 21-025 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE REZONING NINE PARCELS LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2496 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY, TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE E-2 AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-3 TO COMMERCIAL PARKWAY C-P-1 PROVIDING FOR THIS IS SECOND READING.

>> SECOND READING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS

ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CLOSE.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

>>> ORDINANCE 21-026 MOD FLYING THE HARBOR ISLE

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-026 - AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA; MODIFYING THE HARBOUR ISLE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO REVISE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 835 SEAWAY DRIVE. SECOND READING]

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO REVISE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 835 SEAWAY DRIVE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE IS SECOND READING. >> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> VOTE FOR APPROVAL.

MOTION AND SECOND. CALL ROLL.

>>> ROLL CALL]

>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING WE MOVE ONTO

[a. Resolution No. 21-R39 approving Leslie Olson as Commissioner Jeremiah Johnson's appointee to the Parks Advisory Committee.]

RESOLUTION 21-R-39 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE APPOINTMENT OF LESLIE OLSON AS COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON'S APPOINTEE.

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Resolution No. 21-R40 appointing members to serve on the Civil Service Appeals Board.]

CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT TO MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL SERVICES APPEALS BOARD AND PROVIDING

FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> DO WE HAVE BALLOTS?

>> YOU HAVE BALLOTS. >> CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE REGULAR MEMBER AND ONE ALTERNATE POSITIONS AVAILABLE. SO IF YOU WILL VOTE FOR YOUR FIRST CHOICE AND YOUR SECOND CHOICE THE ORDER IN WHICH YOU INCLUDE THEM ON YOUR BALLOT IS INDICATIVE OF THE NUMBER OF POINTS.

>>> WE HAVE COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON VOTING FOR GUS AS NUMBER ONE AND CHRIS TAYLOR JOHNSON AS NUMBER TWO.

THEN WE HAVE MAYOR LINDA VOTE ARE FOR CHRIS TAYLOR JOHNSON AS NUMBER ONE, AND PLAYER AS NUMBER TWO.

COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON VOTING FOR CHRIS TAYLOR AS NUMBER ONE. AND PLAYER AS NUMBER TWO.

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>> DO YOU NEED HELP FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

>> NO, I'M GOOD. TOO MANY JOHNSONS.

[LAUGHTER] >> AMEN.

>> THEY'RE MULTIPLYING LIKE FLIES.

[LAUGHTER] >> WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PERONA VOTING FOR GUS, AND CHRIS TAYLOR JOHNSON NUMBER TWO. SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF FOUR FOR GUS, TWO FOR PLAYER, AND SIX FOR CHRIS TAYLOR JOHNSON. SO THAT WILL BE CHRIS TAYLOR JOHNSON AS THE REGULAR MEMBER AND GUS AS THE

ALTERNATE MEMBER. >> OKAY.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

SOME ROLL CALL]

[c. Resolution No. 21-R41 appointing members to serve on the Keep Fort Pierce Beautiful Board.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION 21-441 CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT OF KEEPS TO THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AGAIN, I HAVE -- >> YOU HAVE BALLOTS.

>> OH. GOOD.

>> I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THESE ARE WE HAVE TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS AND ONE POSITION THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OF YOU IS ON THE NAMES PROVIDED IF YOU COULD AS A BOARD SELECT ONE MEMBER TO SERVE AS COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S APPOINTEE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A REPLACEMENT IS ESTABLISHED.

I THINK IF YOU CAN JUST CALL OUT A NAME FOR THAT THAT -- THAT'S OKAY. OR IF YOU WANT TO VOTE I HAVE ANOTHER SET OF BALLOTS IF YOU NEED ANOTHER SET OF

BALLOTS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO MEMBERS THAT WE HAD ON THAT PRIOR TO THEY HAD TO REAPPLY OR DO WE HAVE ANYONE HOLDING OVER ON THE KEEP

FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL BOARD. >> IN THE RESOLUTION EACH OF YOU GAME ME NAMES FOR YOUR REAPPOINTMENTS AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE -- THOSE ARE AUTOMATICALLY REAPPOINTED.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS --

>> THESE ARE THE NAMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPOINTED AFTER YOU HAVE GIVEN ME YOUR FOUR NAMES.

>> FOR THE RECORD IF YOU COULD THOSE NAMES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPOINTED. WHILE YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT.

CASSANDRA IS SERVING AS MATT SAMUEL AS COMMISSIONER J.

JOHNSON'S REPRESENTATIVE, SHIRLEY WALKER IS SERVING AS COMMISSIONER PERONA'S AND DARE IS SERVING AS MAYOR HUDSON'S REPRESENTATIVE. SO WE HAVE TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS AND ONE ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

>> SO WE DON'T PUT THE THIRD PERSON ON THERE NOW.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO BY VOICE VOTE.

>> AFTER THESE NAMES CAN WE DO IT AFTERWARDS.

>> THAT'S FINE. YOU FOLLOW US.

>> YES. PERFECTLY FINE.

>> IT WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER.

>> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON HAS SELECTED SCOTT NUMBER ONE, CHAD INGRAM NUMBER TWO. COMMISSIONER PERONA HAS SELECTED SCOTT NUMBER ONE, BOB BURGE NUMBER TWO.

COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON HAS SELECTED CHAD INGRAM NUMBER ONE BOB BURGE NUMBER 2. AND MAYOR HUDSON HAS SELECTED

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SCOTT AND CHAD INGRAM. SO BASED ON THOSE TOTALS.

COLIDA HAS SIX POINTS SO SHE WOULD BE -- SCOTT HAS SIX POINTS SO SHE WOULD BE A REGULAR MEMBER.

CHAD INGRAM HAS FOUR POINTS SO HE WOULD BE A REGULAR MEMBER. BOB BURGE HAS TWO POINTS BUT AS A BODY YOU CAN SELECT SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK, OR SINCE THEY ONLY HAVELY VOTES YOU CAN HAVE BOB BURGE TO SERVE AS COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S

REPRESENTATIVE. >> IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO A VOICE VOTE ON WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SELECT AS COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

SO WE'LL DO COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

SPIVEY. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>> BOB BURGE. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> BOB BURGE. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> BOB BURGE. >> SO BOB BURGE WILL BE SERVING AS COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

>> NEED A MOTION FOR THE WHOLE SHEBANG.

>> YES, MA'AM. VOTE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER PERONA. MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21 H-442 AS THE CERTIFYING

[d. Resolution No. 21-R42 confirming the removal of Charlie Frank Matthews from the Fort Pierce Utilities Authority board effective July 19, 2021. ]

THE REMOVING IS WILL DISCUSSION.

IS IT APPROPRIATE WE WOULD HEAR FROM THEM CONCERNING THIS RESOLUTION? SO POLICY PROCEDURE WOULD

ALLOW FOR THAT. >> NO PUBLIC HEARINGS UNDER

THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS. >> FROM THE PUBLIC THERE WAS SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT THAT WERE COMMENCED I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WITHIN WELL WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO DO OR CONSIDER DOING WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW. LEGAL WOULD WEIGH IN ON THAT

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER PERONA TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE WERE A NUMBER OF LEGAL ISSUES RAISED.

WE HAD TODAY WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BASICALLY AN ORAL RESOLUTION THERE WAS NOTHING IN WRITING.

TODAY WE HAD PLACED ON THE AGENDA AN ITEM PUT IN WRITING AN ITEM THAT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED AND THERE WAS A THERE WAS A PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SO THAT PERIOD OCCURRED EARLIER IN THIS MEETING.

SO PROCEDURALLY WE HAVE FOLLOWED PROCEDURE NOW AT THIS POINT. THE CITY CHARTER DOES ALLOW THE COMMISSION TO REMOVE A BOARD MEMBER FOR MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE, NONFEASANCE. SO THE CHARTER DOESN'T DEFINE THOSE TERMS SPECIFICALLY.

SO WHEN THOSE TERMS AREN'T SPECIFICALLY DEFINED YOU PREVERT BACK TO YOUR ORDINARY DICTIONARY DEFINITION WHICH IS BASICALLY A TRANSGRESSION I'M TALKING ABOUT MISFEASANCE NOW BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE OTHERS APPLY.

GENERALLY SPEAKING A TRANSGRESSION A FAILURE TO SO ACT ACT APPROPRIATELY OR DOING AN ACT DOING AN ACT WHICH MIGHT OTHERWISE BE ILLEGAL FOR EXAMPLE, DRIVING A VEHICLE BUT A LICENSE.

SO THOSE TERMS ARE SO BROAD THAT TERM IS SO BROAD MISFEASANCE IT'S SO BROAD THAT ANY NUMBER OF THINGS COULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY AND IT'S UP TO YOU AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE ACCOUNTS

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THAT ARE ALLEGED THE COURSE OF CONDUCT AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT IS MISFEASANCE IS IT WRONGDOING, DOES IT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF REMOVAL?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION RAISED ABOUT DUE PROCESS. SO IT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DUE OUT THERE IN TERMS OF --

>> WELL, THIS IS A BOARD MEMBER THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND IT'S AN APPOINTMENT THAT CAN BE UNDONE PER SURNT TO OUR CHARTER.

THERE'S NO -- UNDONE PURR UNITED IS TO OUR CHARTER.

BUT AGAIN THERE WAS NOTICE GIVEN OF THIS MEETING TODAY.

THE BASIS FOR THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED SINCE AT LEAST JULY 19TH OF THIS YEAR AND THERE HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AFFECTED PARTY TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION AND THAT OCCURRED TODAY. THAT'S MY POSITION ON THAT.

ANYTHING MORE I WOULD DISCUSS IN PRIVATE.

>> SURE, THANK YOU. >> WELL, I WILL SAY THIS FOR THIS COMMISSION WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS THAT NONE OF US DOING THIS HAPPILY ALL OF US TOOK AWAY VERY HEAVILY ON OUR SHOULDER.

IF IT WAS PAINFUL AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID NOT TAKE LIGHTLY AND I DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY MOVING A BOARD -- REMOVING A BOARD MEMBER IS VERY, VERY IS SOMETHING THAT IS SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT WARRANTS IT. I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO REMOVE, IF YOU REMEMBER, TWO BOARD MEMBERS BASED ON. WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING.

THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF PAPER BUT THERE WASN'T MUCH THERE IN TERMS OF VALIDITY SO THAT THOSE BOARD MEMBERS WERE NOT REMOVED BECAUSE THERE -- NO CAUSE WHATSOEVER FOUND. IT WAS A NUMBER OF STREAMED TOGETHER CHARGES AND ACCUSATIONS AND SO BUT THIS, THIS IS BASED ON PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THAT ARE COURT RECORDS. I WOULD JUST ASOON KINDNESS AND COURTESY TO OUR TO MY FORMER BOARD MEMBER WHO I SERVED WITH AND THAT I DON'T WANT -- I REALLY DON'T WANT

TO GO INTO THE DETAILS. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THIS, YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN REVIEWED AND IT'S BEEN COMMENTED ON MANY TIMES FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE STRUGGLE TO GET PEOPLE TO GET ON THESE BOARDS AND SIT ON THESE BOARDS AND REPRESENT THEIR COMMUNITIES.

TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S OUT THERE, IT'S CHALLENGING TO FIND PEOPLE TO DEDICATE THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS.

SO THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, GOING UNNOTICED FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. BUT IT IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGING TO SIT HERE AND TRY TO BALANCE ALL OF THIS AND BALANCE WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED AND HOW WOULD WE LOOK AT THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW IT WAS NOT AN EASY DECISION.

I LISTENED TO MANY PEOPLE, I UNDERSTAND THEIR PLIGHTS AND CONCERN AND I WAS PAINFUL FOR ME TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN YOU KNOW SOMEONE PERSONALLY AND KNOW THE HEART THEY HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WE ALL EXPRESSED THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING TO THAT, I THINK THAT NIGHT WE HAD GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE PERSON AS AN INDIVIDUAL MORE SO THAN A BOARD ROLE.

I STILL STAND BY THAT. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUTTED ON RECORD I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HUMAN ABOUT THE PERSON.

THIS PROCESS TONIGHT HAS ALLOWED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY, BEEN EXPRESSED AND HEARD AND UNDERSTOOD BUT, AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GREAT CONSTERNATION AND PAINFUL SO BE FACING THIS PARTICULAR DILEMMA BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON

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THESE BOARDS. IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS REALLY CONCERNING TO ME. SO, THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER I AGREE WITH YOU.

IT WAS VERY WELL STATED. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELILY CORRECT.

WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TONIGHT AND THINKING ABOUT IT THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, IT IS ABOUT THE HUMAN BEING, IT'S THE HUMAN ELEMENT. I WAS TAUGHT AT A VERY YOUNG AGE SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO JUST PAUSE LIFE TAKE A TIME-OUT, RESET THE PARAMETERS IN WHICH YOU'RE LIVING IN OR OPERATING IN EVERY DAY WE GET UP AND WE GO TO WORK WE DO SOMETHING EVERY DAY, THE SAME, SAME.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO JUST TAKE A PAUSE AND CHANGE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT. UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE WE HAVE ISSUES OUTSIDE OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT LED ME TO TALK ABOUT IN MY OWN HEART THINK ABOUT THE HUMAN ELEMENT, ABSOLUTELY.

JUST SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH US APPOINTING WE JUST WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF THREE BOARDS WHEN WE SEARCHED FOR MEMBERS WE HAVE APPOINTED NOW BY RESOLUTION AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF ONE.

IT'S CONCERNING. WE ACTED, I BELIEVE, IN OUR LAST DISCUSSION PROPERLY BECAUSE WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WHICH WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO AND WE HAVE TAKEN ON THE TASK BY THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO INSTILL THAT.

I MEAN THINK ABOUT THE OPPOSITE.

IF WE WERE TO DO NOTHING THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN OH YOU JUST SWEPT IT UNDER THE RUG. TYPE OF CONVERSATION PIECES.

AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL AND IT'S NOT THE CASE OF LACK OF DUE PROCESS. IT'S JUST US DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THINKING ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE SERVING AND THANK THEM FOR THAT AND US AS HUMAN BEINGS AND EVERYONE GOES THROUGH LIFE WITH DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S

WHERE I AM SPECIFICALLY. >> IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MADAM MAYOR. >> YES, SIR.

>> CAN I MAKE A MOTION BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID ON THE -- SAT ON THE UTILITY BOARD FOR SEVEN YEARS. PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES IN THE CITY I'VE HAD AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMISSION SINCE I'M STILL HERE.

THERE'S STILL TIME. BUT I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE QUICK STORY ABOUT HOW I BEGAN.

I RAN FOR OFFICE AND I WON THAT OFFICE AND FROM AN ELECTION TECHNICALITY I HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM OFFICE.

I WAS REMOVED AS A COMMISSIONER AT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT WAS AN ERROR THAT WE MADE IN QUALIFYING, ACTUALLY I DIDN'T RESIGN FROM THE UTILITY BOARD IN THE EXACT TIME FRAME THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THAT JUDGE AT THAT TIME HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION BASED UPON THE FACTS AND IT'S A TOUGH DECISION TO DO.

THAT DECISION GOT MADE. I WAS REMOVED.

RERAN THREE MONTHS LATER I'M BACK AT IT, OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THIS IS THAT'S THE BAR THAT HAS BEEN SET FOR EVERYBODY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MALFEASANCE OR MISFEASANCE IT HAS TO BE AN ISSUE WITH THE JOB THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT FORT PIERCE CITY OF FORT PIERCE GETS THE VERY BEST OF WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE. WHEN WE THINK THAT'S NOT BEING DONE. THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE SHADY OR A PROBLEM WITH CHARACTER OR A PROBLEM WITH AN ISSUE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

WE HAVE TO EVALUATE IT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

SO THE DECISION TONIGHT SHOULD BE IT'S NOT EASY BECAUSE IT'S DEALING WITH SOMEONE THAT, I PERSONALLY LIKE AND THOUGHT WAS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB BUT IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF FORT PIERCE AND WHAT WE AS COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR HAVE TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE THIS TYPE OF PROCESS.

SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> RESOLUTION 21-442 IS THERE A SECOND.

>> I LOST THE NUMBER. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> MADAM MAYOR I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> ROLL CALL PLEASE.

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-443 A RESOLUTION

[e. Resolution No. 21-R43 appointing Rubin Johnson to serve as the District 1 representative on the FPUA Board, filling the unexpired term of Charlie Frank Matthews.]

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CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF A DISTRICT 1 MEMBER OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY BOARD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON HAS SELECTED MR. RUBIN JOHNSON TO SERVE IN THE CAPACITY OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES BOARD MEMBER.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION OR A DISCUSSION?

>> WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION BUT I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT OR TWO ON THIS. THIS PROCESS WAS NOT EASY.

I PROBABLY TALKED TO THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT CANDIDATES OF DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS, OF DIVERSE AS FAR AS GENDER AS WELL AND WE'RE GOING TO SETTLE ON MR. JOHNSON IT'S NOT REALLY A SETTLEMENT BECAUSE MR. JOHNSON HAS BEEN IN A VERY FAMILIAR AT THE V.A. HE SERVED THERE IN MANY YEARS AS A CAPACITY. HE IS ONE, TOO, THAT THE COMMUNITY WHEN I TALK TO AND I SPOKE TO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY REACHED OUT TO ME AS A RESULT OF SEEING THIS POST IN TODAY WERE EAGER TO LOOK AT THIS AND FIGURE GOING FROM HERE. THIS IS FULFILLMENT OF A TERM FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM SO IT'S BASICALLY A YEAR BASED ON THAT BASIS. IT'S ONE THAT I AM PROUD TO MAKE AT AT THIS POINT TO REPLACE THE LARGE SHOES JUST RESULTED AS A REMOVAL. WITH THAT BEING SAID I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 21 H-443.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.

>> I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THAT YOU TOOK A LOT OF TIME COMMISSIONER TO SELECT THAT AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND IT'S BASICALLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE SINCE HE IS A RETIREE OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WILL IS NO CONFLICT AS FAR AS GOING BACK ON THE BOARD AGAIN AS A RETIREE.

I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF OR HUMAN RESOURCES HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS MAN. SO IN TERMS OF THIS INDIVIDUAL BEING A FORMER EMPLOYEE THERE'S NO CONFLICT AS FAR AS CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE PLACED ON THE COMMISSION BASED ON THE CHARTER. HOWEVER, THERE IS A SECONDARY OR COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCE THAT COULD AFFECT THIS INDIVIDUAL IF THEY JOIN THE BOARD AND ACCEPT FINANCIAL COMPENSATION BECAUSE AT THAT POINT HE COULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE REEMPLOYED FOR PURPOSES OF RETIREMENT BENEFITS.

SO, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTING COMPENSATION THEY ARE A VOLUNTEER IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR OTHER CITY BOARD MEMBERS ARE VOLUNTEERS AND NOT CONSIDERED TO BE -- WITH INTUL AGAINST THAT'S MY CONCERN.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CANDIDATE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IMPROPRIETY WHATSOEVER OR WE WERE CAUSING ANY ISSUE TO THE GENTLEMAN GOING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE THAT CONCERN AND THAT TOO HAS BEEN EXPRESSED.

IF THAT IS A CONDITION THAT'S NOT AGREEABLE THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE A RESIGNATION AND WE'LL START THE SEARCH AGAIN AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT.

AT THIS POINT HE HAS BEEN MADE AWARE WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. LIKE I SAID IF THERE'S A CHALLENGE TO THAT WHICH I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE WILL KROS

THAT BRIDGE AT THAT POINT. >> VERY GOOD.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> ROLL CALL]

[f. Resolution No. 21-R44, Joining with the State of Florida and Other Local Governmental Units as a Participant in the Florida Memorandum of Understanding and Formal Agreements Implementing a Unified Plan Relating to the Resolution of Opioid Litigation. ]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-H-44 SOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO JOIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL UNITS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FLORIDA MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND FORMAL AGREEMENTS IMPLEMENTING A UNIFIED PLAN AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS RESOLUTION MR. MIMMS DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?

IS THERE. >> I GUESS IT'S ME MADAM

MAYOR. >> SO BASICALLY THIS IS I THINK THE CULMINATION OR ALMOST THE CULMINATION OF ALMOST TWO YEARS OF LITIGATION RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME THERE IS ONGOING LITIGATION AGAIN MULTIPLE COMPANIES AND WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO I BELIEVE A RESOLUTION OF THAT LITIGATION HOWEVER IT REQUIRES ALL LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO WORK TOGETHER AND THIS M.O.U. THAT'S ON TODAY IS FOR THAT PURPOSE. BASICALLY WE'RE GIVING YOU MADAM MAYOR THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN ANY FUTURE M.O.U. OR PAPERWORK NECESSARY TO EFFECT IT A A SETTLEMENT IN

THIS IT. >> THIS IS REQUIRED FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS GOING FORWARD.

>> ABSOLUTELY, YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF

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MS. EARLY. >> NOT SPECIFICALLY.

JUST A COMMENT I BELIEVE THIS DOESN'T COST THE STAY OFFORD PIERCE ANYTHING TO DATE.

>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. >> GOOD POINT.

WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS THAT CAN SPEAK TO ANY OF THOSE ISSUES. OR THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT

AT THE COMMENT AFTERWARD. >> WE DON'T ALLOW COMMENTS AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE. BUT I APPRECIATE THE GESTURE

FOR THAT. >> STILL A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SO CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[g. Submittal of applications for Planning Board.]

IS SUBMITAL OF THE APPLICATIONS AT THE PLANNING BOARD IN THE FORM OF A BALLOT FOR YOU TO SELECT MEMBERS FOR THE CITY PLANNING BOARD.

>> OKAY. >> AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> OKAY, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ABOUT ANY SUBJECT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL BE TIMED. AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE

SECOND WARNING. >> VERY GENEROUS.

>> RICK REED, 2625 SOUTH U.S. 1.

THE ISSUE THAT WAS HANDLED EARLIER TONIGHT THE HYPOCRISY THAT WAS DISPLAYED.

NOTHING IS DONE IN A VACUUM. EVER DONE IN A VACUUM.

AND THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WERE THERE WAS A REMOVAL, THEY WERE GIVEN A HALF A NIGHT'S HEARING BEFORE THIS CITY COMMISSION OR THE CITY COMMISSION THAT WAS SITTING AT THE TIME THEY WERE COUNSELLED BY THE MAYOR'S BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THEY HIRED BUCK WHO CAME UP HERE AND PUT A FULL DOG AND PONY SHOW ON WE NOW KNOW THAT HE HAS SINCE PLEAD GUILTY FOR BEING A DRUNK HIMSELF. HE WAS ALSO THE ATTORNEY THAT REMOVED MR. PERONA SO I GUESS HE WAS SOBER BACK THEN. ONTO THINGS OF INTEREST.

THE FORMER BOARD MEMBER THAT MR. MATTHEWS REPLACED AND YOU LOOK HE HAD 10 TRAFFIC IN-- INFRACTIONS BUT THERE WERE MORE WHILE HE WAS ON THE U.A. BOARD THE INTERNAL REVENUE THOUGHT ENOUGH OF HIM TO FILE A NUMBER THREE FEDERAL LIENS AGAINST HIM AND THE CITY OFFORD PIERCE 'ALL HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF ALLOWING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES TO GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING BUT MURDER, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'VE KILL ANYBODY YET.

YOU HAVE AN H.R. DISHTOR YOU HAD A PLANNING DIRECTOR HE WAS REWARDED WITH A PROMOTION HE HAD 3-D UIS LOST HIS DRIVERS -- HE HAD THREE D.U.I.S IMAGINE MAKING HIM PLANNING DIRECTOR BUT H.R. DIRECTOR WITH THREE CONCURRENT D.U.I.S LOST HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE HE PROVES MOTED TO BE THE H.R. DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO IT JUST AMAZES ME THAT WELL, IT DOESN'T, I KNOW MOST OF Y'ALL, THAT Y'ALL CAN TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

THEN INFUSE GOD INTO IT LIKE ONE OF YOU DO.

AND SO, Y'ALL, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES Y'ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. YOU'RE HYPOCRITES.

ABSOLUTE HYPOCRITES. I HOPE HE SUES YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> 715 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE.

SO, I HAVE TO CONCUR WITH MR. REED ON MANY OF THOSE THINGS. HOWEVER, AS I HAVE ALWAYS SPOKEN OUT ON YOU KNOW VACATION RENTALS I HAVE SENT MULTIPLE REQUESTS TO HAVE OUR PERMITS BE ADDRESSED WITH GRANDFATHERING WITH ALMOST EVERYBODY HERE EXCEPT MRS. HUDSON WHO WON'T TAKE ANYBODY'S INFORMATION OR CALLS. I'M GOING TO READ THIS ON THE RECORD SINCE YOU WON'T ANSWER ME.

SO I HAD SENT AN E-MAIL TO ALL OF YOU GUYS COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR AND MS. COX.

NICHOLAS AND MICHELLE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE APPROVED ORDINANCE CHAPTER 21-019 SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS WE HAD HEARING ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2019, AND THEN OCTOBER, WHEN WAS THIS OTHER ONE OCTOBER 19TH, 2020. OUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AS YOU CALL S.T.R.S ARE LAWFUL AND HAVE BOTH BEEN USED AND SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED. IN ADDITION THE CITY OF FORT

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PIERCE HAS NEVER FORMALLY SERVED US THAT ANY OF OUR "PERMITS" THAT I KNOW THAT MR. JOHNSON SAYS IT'S NOT A PERMIT IF YOU GO TO PLANNING ENVIRONMENT THEY TELL YOU NEED TO FILE A PERMIT. WE'LL JUST USE YOUR WORDS.

SINCE THEY WERE SUGGESTED TO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THEY ISSUED IN OCTOBER 2019, AND OCTOBER 2020 WHICH IS REQUIRED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE HEARINGS WERE HELD QUASI-JUDICIAL AND ARE UNIQUELY AFFECTED BY THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 21-019. WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING INTO EFFECT AS OF I THINK TOMORROW, SO IN ORDER TO CHANGE MY CONDITION THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO "NOTICE US" TO REMOVE OUR APPROVED CONDITIONS WHICH MUST NOT BE ARBITRARY WHICH IS UNDER PALMETTO VERSUS PALMER TRINITY PRIVATE SCHOOLS. EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS CANNOT BE REMOVED AND ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THE CITY. THE AFFECTED PERSONS ENTITLED TO NOTICE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL AND EXAMINE WITNESSES, INTRODUCE EXHIBITS, CROSS-EXAMINE OPPOSING WITNESSES ON RELEVANT MATTERS AND REBUKE EVIDENCE.

AGAIN WE HAD A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING THEN YOU ENFORCED A TASK FORCE WHICH YOU VIOLATED SUNSHINE LAW BECAUSE ALL THESE LITTLE PLACES THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING UP RESOLUTIONS TO BRING THIS PERSON ON THE BOARD AND THAT YOU -- YET YOU LET THEM BRING IN WHATEVER THEY WANTED AND THEN YOU APPROVED IT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR FAILING AGAIN CITY OF FORT PIERCE GET READY FOR A LAWSUIT.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. I SEE NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL MOVE ON.

>> OK, NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

MR. MIMMS. >> IN REMEMBRANCE OF OUR FRIEND AND OUR LOST SOLDIER COMMISSIONER ROOFUS ALEXANDER THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC VISITATION ON SATURDAY AUGUST 7TH AT THE GYM NAGSIUM AND THERE WILL BE A CELEBRATION OF LIFE ON AUGUST 8TH AT THE WESTSIDE BAPTIST CHURCH. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED THAT INFORMATION THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ESPECALLY OUR HONOR GUARD OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERY DEPARTMENT OF CITY WE SHALL WORK TOGETHER WITH THAT FAMILY TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE ARRANGEMENTS MEET THEIR NEEDS AND MEET THEIR DESIRES AS WE REMEMBER OUR FRIEND.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT.

AND ALSO, MOVING FORWARD ON AUGUST 9 WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION WHERE WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT PARKING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE SUN RIDE THEADER.

THE OPERATIONAL -- SUNRISE THEATER THE OPERATIONAL PLAN. WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS FROM A SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING THAT WE.

NOW WE WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE FOLLOWING THOSE OPTIONS. ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

BECAUSE OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION MEETING HAS BEEN MOVED UP THIS YEAR. IT IS TYPICALLY IT'S IN JANUARY BUT NOW IT'S IN AUGUST.

>> IT'S BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE MEETS EARLIER.

ONE YEAR IT'S EARLIER THEN IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ELECTIONS. THEY PLAN THEIR LIFE AROUND

THEIR ELECTIONS. >> WELL, YES.

WELL, THEY MOVED IT UP SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS DIRECTOR HE WILL BE HERE AGAIN THIS UPCOMING MONDAY TO GO OVER OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR 2022 AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE GET A CONSENSUS AND FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT ON AUGUST 19TH AT THE INDY RIVER STATE COLLEGE TO

OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, ON AUGUST 10TH AT THE BOARD MEETING AGENDA YOU WANT TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF DEVELOPMENT AND TALKING ABOUT AN AWARD FOLLOWING THE R.F.P. FOR THE MULTISERVICE COMMUNITY HUB ALSO THE LEASE AGREEMENT FINALIZING THAT WITH THE ORIGINAL FLORIDA HALL OF FAME WOMEN. WE'LL HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE SURMRS. PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE AWARDING TO THE HIGHEST RANK RESPONDER AS WELL AS AMENDING THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE LINDSEY SCHOOL OF THE ARTS. THAT AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY DUE TO THELING TO OF TIME -- DUE TO THE TOLLING OF TIME WITH THE STATE OF EMERGENCY ISSUED BY THE GOVERNOR.

THAT IS IT. THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES UPDATE AND THAT IS MY UPDATE FOR

EVENING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> MS. EARLY.

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>> NO UPDATES. >> MS. COX.

>> NOTHING AT THIS TIME. >> RIGHTY.

SO WE'LL GO ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

FROM THE CITY COMMISSION. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON

WOULD YOU LIKE TO START. >> IT SEEMED LIKE I STARTED LAST TIME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL

SOMEBODY OUT. >> COMMISSIONER PERON.

>> CURTIS JOHNSON HAS GIVEN YOU THE FLOOR WHAT IS IT WITH THESE JOHNSONS IS THE WHOLE CITY BEING ATTACKED BY THE JOHNSONS. I THINK THE NAME HAS COME UP LIKE 50 TIMES TODAY IN JUST OUR OWN MEETING.

>> I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR 2021.

>> THEY'RE TAKING OVER. >> ANYWAY, AND FORTUNATELY THEY'RE ALL REALLY GREAT PEOPLE.

I HAVE BEEN AWAY ONE ON A PERSONAL SMALL TRIP THEN I WAS AWAY AT THE FMEA, FMPA CONVENTION AGAIN THAT'S FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC ASSOCIATION AND THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL POWER ASSOCIATION IN A DUAL CONFERENCE.

I'VE BEEN GOING I JUST REALIZED LOOKING AT THE DATES AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THIS WAS MY 20TH YEAR AND I THINK I HAVE ATTENDED ALL BUT THREE OF THEM THE SEVEN YEARS WITH THE UTILITY AUTHORITY.

NOW 12 YEARS, 12 AND A HALF YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THERE THAT I KNOW.

EVERY YEAR I AM SURPRISED AND I'M GOING TO BRING A REPORT BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH A QUICK THOUGHT AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS GOT UP THERE AND WAS TALKING ABOUT THE KNEW INDUSTRIES THAT ARE CREATING A NEED FOR CAPACITY ON THE ELECTRIC GRID AND I WROTE THEM DOWN THE P.E.V. WHICH IS PLUG-IN VEHICLES. TWO IS DATA PROCESSING AND STORAGE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE -- AND THE WINNER IN THE THIRD PART IS MARIJUANA PRODUCTION.

>> RIGHT. LIGHTS, FANS, COME ON.

I REALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.

I MEAN. >> THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GROW. NO PUN INTENDED.

[LAUGHTER] >> I LIKE THAT ONE.

[LAUGHTER] >> SO ANYWAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS QUITE INTERESTING. FIVE YEARS AGO THOSE THINGS REALLY DIDN'T EVEN HARDLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND RIGHT NOW THE FRONT AND CENTER. THE WHOLE WORLD IS CHANGING, ALSO, TO KEEP UP WITH THAT AND SECURITY THOSE TYPE OF THINGS GOING FORWARD. I'LL GIVE YOU ALL FULL REPORT GET SOME DOWNLOADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

GREAT AND JACOB WILLIAMS DID SUCH A GOOD JOB WHEN HE CAME

HERE. >> I TELL YOU WHAT, I'M THERE IN A BIG GROUP WITH A ROOM OF 31 CITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND HE LEADS INTO THIS WHOLE THING

TALKING ABOUT FORT PIERCE. >> DID HE.

OH, GREAT. >> WE'RE IN ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE ALL REQUIREMENTS PROJECTS.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARTNERS THEY HAVE NOT IN MONEY OR SIZE BUT IN ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE WITH THEM AND TREASURE COAST ENERGY CENTER IS THEIR BIGGEST SUCCESS.

AND THEY LEAD WITH THAT EVERY TIME THEY CAN WHEN

THEY TALK ABOUT RELIABILITY. >> WE'VE HAD THE SAME THING

HERE AS HE SAID THERE. >> HE SAID THE SAME THING.

HE SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO GET BORED DURING MY SPEECH AND I WASN'T BORED MY CHEST WAS POKED STRAIGHT OUT.

BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WENT ON WITH THAT AND I'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU AT A LATER DATE.

IS THAT IT? >> ARE YOU READY.

>> I'M READY. >> OKAY.

GO AHEAD. >> A COULD THINGS I WANTED TO START MY WORK WITH THEN I'LL WORK WAY MY TO THE GOOD NEWS. I SAY THIS FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL THE PAST COUPLE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING HERE IN TOUGH DISCUSSIONS.

AGAIN I'M GOING TO REEMPHASIZE THIS IS THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE HAVING CHALLENGES TO FIND PEOPLE TO SIT ON THESE BOARDS AND I'M SAYING THIS TO THE PUBLIC AND I'VE HEARD FROM MANY OF YOU THAT HAVE COMMENTS AND OPINIONS. I WOULD OFFER A WELCOMING CHALLENGE TO APPLY FOR SOME OF THESE BOARDS.

BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND DISTRICT 2 TO APPLY FOR THESE APPLY SOMETIMES SOME OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE FACTS ARE THERE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.

SO I NOTICED AGAIN TODAY THAT A NOTICE WENT OUT SEEKING APPLICATIONS FOR THE PF -- FPUA BOARD.

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I REACHED TO TO MS. COX. TO THIS DAY I THINK WE'VE HAD FIVE APPLICATIONS COME IN FOR THE FPUA BOARD.

SO THAT'S ON THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT, WE NEED YOUR HELP, WE NEED THAT PASSION THAT YOU CALL WITH TO GET INVOLVED AND APPLY FOR THE BOARDS AND LET US KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE APART OF IT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PLEA WITH THAT.

LAST WEEK HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING T-SERTA.

HE TO LOOK -- HE TO LOOK THAT UP TO SEE WHAT IT WAS.

BUT THAT'S THE TREASURE COAST EDUCATION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, YES, ADVISORY BOARD.

THAT WAS QUITE INTERESTING. WEST OF TOWN OUT THERE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT'S LISTENING. THAT'S THE PRUITT CORPORATE PARKWAY I GUESS OUT THERE FORMER LEGISLATOR KEN PRUITT. IT WAS QUITE INTERESTING TO BE OUT THERE AND UNDERSTANDING THE SUNSHINE KITCHEN WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON THROUGHOUT WITH THE COUNTY AND PARTNERSHIPS. QUITE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PLOTS OUT THERE AND WHAT'S COMING. SO, I'LL SAY THIS TO SAY THAT MORE OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING SO FAR AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT WESTIN CORRIDOR WITH COMMERCIALIZATION AND BIG ENTITIES THAT LIKE TO TAKE UP MILLION SQUARE FEET-TYPE PROJECTS WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO COME INTO THAT PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL AND AS THAT BOARD CONTINUES TO MEET AND MOVE FORWARD THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARTNERS OUTSIDE THERE THAT ARE OUT THERE. YOU KNOW SOME VERY INTERESTING VENTURES OUT ON THAT WESTIN CORRIDOR THAT I HAD THE PLEASURE OF UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE MEETING WITH THEM. I THINK IT'S BEEN MAYBE A YEAR SINCE THEY MET. IT WAS A BOARD THAT WAS NEWLY FORM LATED AND COMING BACK TOGETHER.

WE'LL BE MEETING MORE SOVEREIGN THAT WAS QUITE THE EXPERIENCE -- OFTEN SO THAT WAS QUITE THE EXPERIENCE.

I ALSO WANT SAY SOMETHING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT HAPPENED TODAY, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THERE WAS A PERSON THAT WE'VE HONORED HERE BEFORE WITH RESOLUTIONS THAT'S PASSED TO PASTOR HOILAMAN.

TODAY I WITNESSED HER REALIZATION OF A DREAM THAT SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR EIGHT TO 10 YEARS.

SO TODAY THEY HAD A SOFT OPENING FOR THE FLORIDA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER WHICH LINCOLN PARK WHICH WILL BE LOCATED AT 30, 90, AVENUE G THAT'S THE OLD BOYS & GIRLS CLUB. IT'S THE LEARNED RESOURCE VILLAGE RIGHT NOW IN THAT FACILITY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MUCH NEEDED MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR CITIZENS OF THE LINCOLN PARK AREA TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS, QUICK ACCESS TO PRENATAL CARE, PREVENTIVE MEDICINE, IN LIGHT OF COVID COMING AND NEEDING VACCINATION THAT FACILITY WILL BE EQUIPPED TO DO THOSE THINGS MOVING FORWARD. BUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN THINK OF AS FAR AS A PREVENTIVE PRIMARY-TYPE TREATMENT WILL BE OFFERED THERE THIS MUCH VERY A SOFT OPENING TODAY FOUR EXAM ROOMS. THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY OF BEING ABLE TO TELEMEDICINE COMMUTE WITH A PERSON IF THEY WANT TO TALK FROM THEIR HOME OR IF THEY WANT TO COME IN AND TALK TO MAYBE SOMEONE THAT THEY NEED AN EXPERT OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MEDICINE PERSON TO ADVISE HIM ON MAKING OBVIOUSLY TELEMEDICINE INTO THAT PHYSICIAN'S OFFICE AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR ISSUES SO THE GRAND OPENING IS COMING LATER THIS MONTH FOR THAT BUT I CAN TELL YOU TOMORROW MORNING THEY WILL HAVE THEIR FIRST PATIENT SOMEONE WALKING OFF STREET AND NEEDING A PHYSICAL FOR SCHOOL SO THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PATIENT IN THE MORNING. I'M JUST SO EXCITED BECAUSE AS A PERSON THAT YOU KNOW MY GRANDMOTHER LIVED IN THAT AREA AND I WAS RAISED IN THAT AREA BECAUSE I LIVE WITH HER AS A VERY YOUNG CHILD TO KNOW THAT THAT AREA NOW HAS A FACILITY THAT WILL SEE PEOPLE THAT HELP WITH THEIR TYPE 2 DIABETES OR THE PREVENTION AND ALL THIS PRENATAL CARE IT BROUGHT TEARS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE'S EYES TODAY TO KNOW THAT WE ARE STARTING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE HEALTH CHALLENGES AND DISPARITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S THERE AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT I ORDERED THEM THEIR ONE FORT PIERCE PIN BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S THE ACTIONS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND PASTOR HAZEL HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS SHE FOUND THE RIGHT COMMUNITY PARTNER PUMP GET A CHANCE PLEASE SAY HELLO I'M SURE THEY WOULD WELCOME ANY TIME YOU WANT TO STOP BY. BUT TODAY WAS WITH THE RISE OF THE DELTA VARIANT IT WAS A VERY SOFT OPENING.

I WAS THERE, SENATOR GAIL HAROLD WAS THERE, COUNTY

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COMMISSIONER SEAN MITCHELL THERE WAS.

SO WE WERE REPRESENTED ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS AT LEAST BUT, I JUST I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF HER AND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE A PARTNER THERE TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS.

>> COMMISSIONER THIS IS THE SAME GROUP THAT'S ON

DELAWARE AVENUE ALSO. >> SATELLITE OFFICE.

>> SATELLITE OFFICE. RIGHT.

IT'S FULLY FUNCTIONAL. THEY CAN DO IT ALL THERE.

THEY HAVE FOUR VERY NICE EXAM ROOMS THEY WILL HAVE A PHYSICIAN THERE THEY ALSO HAVE A PHARMACY PROGRAM THAT INCORPORATED WITH IT SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE PRESCRIPTION THAT PEOPLE NEED FOR THE CONTROL OF THEIR DISEASE STATES THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THEM THROUGH THIS AVENUE AS WELL. SO IT'S, IT'S ONE STOP SHOP HERE AND LIKE I SAY IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU CAN JUST REACH OUT I'M SURE THEY WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU AND HEAR FROM YOU. BUT IT'S A GREAT THING FOR

THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY. >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF ANYBODY CAN DO IT HAZELE CAN DO IT.

>> SHE DID IT. >> IF SHE SETS HER MIND TO

IT. >> IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM FIRST STEP PARK. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY REHABILITATED THAT BUILDING AND BASICALLY SAID ALL RIGHT HAZEL WE KNOW YOU HAVE A DREAM. SHE WANTED A PANTRY THERE AND RESOURCE CENTER FOR STUDENTS AND SHE WANTED THE MEDICAL CLINIC BUT SHE DIDN'T GET THE MEDICAL

CLINIC. >> SHE'S GOT THE MEDICAL CLINIC THAT MUST ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS THE OTHER THEY MAINTAIN AND LOOK OUT AFTER THE FACILITY AND MAKE SURE IT'S COOLING RIGHT AND ALL OF THAT. IT'S A THREE WAY PARTNERSHIP RIGHT NOW IT'S WORKING REALLY, REALLY WELL.

>> MR. Y. JOHNSON. >> MA'AM I WAS JUST READING THROUGH EARLIER ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT AND JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE THERE AND THE MISSION SERVED MISSION ACCOMPLISHED I LOVE THAT SAYING AND THE PHRASE AND ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH WORLD CHANGERS COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

THE ADOPTER WROTE PROGRAM COMMISSIONER ALL THESE PICTURES GOOD JOB. YOU'RE DOING AN ACCIDENT JOB WITH THAT. I WAS ALSO ENCOURAGED HAVING A FRPGS MIND-SET SOME OF OUR WITH JUST LOOKING AT HOW YOU GROW A CITY AND HOW YOU ORIENTATE YOUR CITY FORRED ACTIVITY I ASKED ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS AND TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WE TALKED ABOUT OUR CORRIDORS FROM THE INTERSTATE COMING IN TO THE HEART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

IN LOOKING AT ORANGE AVENUE WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENHANCE THAT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHALLENGE OUR PARTNERS IN THE D.O.T. TO LOOK AT THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. WE HAVE THAT YOU KNOW FIVE LANES OF TRAVEL WITH ONE SUICIDE LANE OR FOUR LANES OF TRAVEL WITH ONE SUICIDE LANE WE CALL IT SUICIDE LANE IT'S A TERRIBLE TURN BUT MAKING THAT LEFT OR RIGHT HAND TURN MOVEMENT WHEN YOU EITHER MERGE OR YOU'RE LEAVING THE ROADWAY IN THE MIDDLE.

YOU KNOW JUST LOOKING AT IT. >> ORANGE --

>> NO JUST LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR WEST OF

13TH. >> ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE A TURN.

>> TRAFFIC. ORANGE AVENUE STATE ROAD 68 WE COULD JUST USE SOMETHING SPECIAL THERE.

>> OH IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN OKEECHOBEE.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO DESIGNS THEY'RE DIFFERENT. YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ENHANCED ON OKEECHOBEE WHAT WE HAVE NOT DONE WITH ORANGE AVENUE. AND I SAY ALL THOSE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT THE T.P.O. MEETING.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON WEDNESDAY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP LOOKING AT THE SOUTH BEACH BRIDGE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS FOR A PILOT PROGRAM FOR PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ACTIVITY

ON THE BRIDGE. >> TALK ABOUT SUICIDE.

>> THAT'S WHY I SAY ALL THOSE THINGS TO LEAD UP TO THAT MOMENT. BECAUSE IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. SO I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE T.P.O. IS GOING TO BE ASKING CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP OR LEADERSHIP IN THAT EFFORT, OF COURSE. SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT BUT I WANTED TO INFORM THE COMMISSION THAT THAT IS COMING. IT'S A DISCUSSION POINT.

IT MAY JUST FALLAWAY ON WEDNESDAY AT 2:00 OR 3:00 IN

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THE AFTERNOON. SO I SHARE THAT BECAUSE IT IS A PART OF OUR LIFE IT'S APART OF THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION IT'S APART OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES, COMMISSIONER YOU ARE GOING TO CONFERENCES TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS WE HAD OUR TURNPIKE FOLKS HERE TALKING TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS OR HOPE REPLY SOONER.

IT'S JUST APART OF LIFE. IT'S WHERE, IT'S WHERE WE JUST HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CAPACITY. I WAS TELLING MR. MIMMS NOT TOO LONG AGO, MAYBE EVEN LAST THURSDAY WE HAVE TO START LOOKING INTO OUR PARTNER WITH D.O.T. AND SAYING WHAT YOU ARE DOING ABOUT SOUTH BEACH BRIDGE.

IT'S 50 YEARS OLD IN A COUPLE YEARS.

WE'RE WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO COASTAL COMMUNITIES AND CONCRETE WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE STRUCTURALLY DO.

WE HAVE THE LAND DO. WE HAVE THE LAND OR DOES D.O.T. HAVE THE LAND TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUILDING OF A NEW BRIDGE? SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

AND I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

YOU START TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE CONNECTIVITY ACTIONS.

ONE OF OUR MEETINGS NOT TOO LONG AGO I HEARD IT BROUGHT UP BY A NONCOUNCIL PERSON MAYBE A FORMER COUNCIL PERSON THE BRIDGE AT PORT ST. LUCIE AT WALTON ROAD.

IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT.

OUR CONNECTIVITY TO THE BEACHES.

THAT'S SEAWAY DRIVE AND CONSTRAINTS OF SEAWAY DRIVE.

A LOT OF HAPPENING THERE AND A LOT TO CONSIDER IN THE PLANNING OF OUR LITTLE TINY TOWN AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU SAW, DID YOU SEE THE NUMBERS ON THE REPORT FOR POPULATION.

RELEASE ONE OF THE REPORTS POPULATION I THINK IT -- IN

THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. >> NO, MAYBE THE TURNPIKE

REFERENCE. >> YEAH, ALSO THE WATER SUPPLY. FPUA DID THEY HAVE TO ANTICIPATE HOW MUCH POPULATION GROWTH IS GOING TO HAPPEN SO THEY PUT THAT IN THE REPORT ALSO.

SO LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT HOW WE'RE BUILDING OUR CITY AND OF COURSE ACCOMMODATING THE POPULATION GROUP.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, HONORED TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION WITH COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER.

WHO IT WAS MY PLEASURE AND MY HONOR FOR SURE.

WE GET TO SHARE THAT WITH THE FAMILY AND REMEMBER AND CELEBRATE THE IMFACT THAT HE MADE ON THIS COMMUNITY.

WHEN HE A -- IMPACT THAT HE MADE ON THIS COMMUNITY.

I HAD A MEMBER OF THE WESTSIDE CHURCH CALL ME ANOTHER DAY AND TALK ABOUT IT.

I SAID WE ARE HONORED AS A CHURCH TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE I KNOW AS A COMMISSION AND TO BE THERE NEXT SUNDAYS.

THE 8TH. SO I WENT TO THE FUNERAL OF JIM AND ALSO GARY. WERE YOU DONE I'M SORRY.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SPEAKING OF NUMBERS WE DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE OF FIGURES YET, I GUESS.

>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. >> SO I WOULD BE ANXIOUS TO KNOW WHEN WE GET THOSE AND ALSO, HARKENING BACK TO YOUR COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON TALK ABOUT THE F.U.A. WE'LL HAVE TO PICK A NEW BOARD MEMBER BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH .

AND LAST TIME WE DID A PUBLIC FORUM WITH A PUBLIC INTERVIEW. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA UNTIL IT WAS OVER AND THEN I THOUGHT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT WAS ALMOST LIKE AN AUDITION IN A PUBLIC FORUM AND THEN ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GET IT WERE EMBARRASSED AND DISAPPOINTED AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS HAPPY WAS THE ONE WHO GOT IT. SO MY PRERNCE WOULD BE FOR US TO NOT REPEAT THAT PROCESS.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO TALK TO MY FELL LOW COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IT AT SOME -- FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IT AT SOME FUTURE TIME. I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO INTERVIEW ANYBODY WHO'S A CANDIDATE.

I WILL INTERVIEW EITHER IN PERSON OR ON THE PHONE WHATEVER THEY WANT CONSIDERING HOWEVER SAFE THEY FEEL. BUT RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE AGAINST THE PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WE DID BEFORE.

SO, I'M ASKING TO YOU JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.

I DID THINK THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME AND GOING INTO IT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

BUT EVER SINCE IT'S BEEN OVER I HAVE SAID, I DON'T

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WANT TO PUT ANYBODY ELSE THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SORORITY RUSH AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, JUST DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH ME.

THAT'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.

I WANT TO TELL YOU HOW PROUD I WAS WITH FORT PIERCE WITH THE RICH HOUSE THE GRAND OPENING.

THERE WAS A WONDERFUL CROWD. NUMBERSWISE AS WELL AS THE QUALITY OF THE PEOPLE, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTY WAS THERE. BIG TIME.

OUR FUNDERS,EN FUNDERS PART PARTNERS ALL CAME AND ARE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE. IT JUST WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL DAY EVEN THOUGH IT WAS VERY, VERY HOT.

A LOT OF IT WAS OUTSIDE. BUT EVERYBODY IT JUST WAS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT DAY. I LIST WANT SHARE I ATTENDED SURVIVORS OF MURDERED VICTIMS SUPPORT GROUP IT'S THEIR SECOND ANNIVERSARY. I'M SO PROUD OF THIS GROUP.

I WAS THERE WHEN THEY FORMED AND I SWORE IN THE OFFICERS AT THE TIME IN THEIR FORMATION PINKY HENLEY AND MARY FORMED THIS GROUP. THEY HAVE MADE COLLABORATIONS WITH THE TRAUMA CENTER AND SO WE HAD THE MEETING AT THE HOSPITAL AT LONGWOOD AND THE TRAUMA PEOPLE THERE WERE AS WELL AS WITH HOSPICE.

AND SO THEY, THEY'VE REALLY DEVELOPED INTO QUITE A COHESIVE GROUP AND IT IS A GROUP THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO GROW. THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE MEMBERS. SO THEY MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. BUT THEY WANT TO BE THERE TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEMBERS THAT THEY HAVE.

VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT GROUP.

I WAS ALSO PROUD TO GO TO THE SENDOFF WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS THERE, TOO.

SO WHAT A GREAT WAY TO SHOW YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING HOME THEIR FRESHMAN AND FLORIDA A&M UNIVERSITY THE ALUMNI AND PARENTS AND SOME SCHOOL LEADERS GET TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER CARE BASKETS AND GIVE THEM POINTERS ABOUT HOW TO SUCCEED IN COLLEGE AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I HAVE EVER HARD SOMEBODY SAY THE ATTORNEYS NELSON WHO SAID YOU GOT MAKE YOUR HIGH G.P.A. YOUR FIRST SEMESTER BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T YOU PLAY CATCH-UP THE REST OF THE TIME YOU'RE IN COLLEGE.

>>. >> IT'S VERY TRUE YOU GET A

HIGH G.P.A.. >> YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THERE WERE 12 THERE IS THAT RIGHT.

>> 12. I HONESTLY WISH I HAD HAD THAT SIMILAR EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT A GREAT SUPPORT FOR THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.

AND THEY ALL HAD THEIR MAJORS MOST OF THEM HAD THEIR MAJORS PICKED OUT. JUST A REALLY NICE, NICE GATHERING. SO ENJOYED THAT VERY MUCH.

WITH THAT UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER I THINK WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN IF EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS WOULD MOVE TOWARDS THE DOORS WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING OUT OF HERE PRETTY QUICKLY AND TURNING OUT T

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.