Aug 09, 2021 City Commission Conference Agenda

[1. Call to Order]

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>>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CONFERENCE AGENDA.

STAND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER AND HIS WIFE WHO IS AILING NOW AS WE UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE.

POUR YOUR HEADS FOR A MOMENT OF >>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>> IN ROLL CALL -- (ROLL CALL).

[a. 2022 Legislative Priorities]

>> MR. MIMMS. >> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSION.

WE HAVE WITH US OUR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS DIRECT DIRECTOR NICOLE FOGGERTY T IS EARLY THIS YEAR WE'RE STARTING EARLIER THAN NORMAL BUT WE'RE GOING TO PRETTY MUCH GO OVER THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AS WE PREVIEW 2022.

I'M TURN IT OVER TO NICOLE AT THIS TIME.

>> THE 2022 LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM HAS NOT CHANGED.

I WANTED TO GO OVER THE 2021 PROGRAM WITH YOU ALL AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FEED BACK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE THAT IN OUR 2022 LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM.

JUST KEEP IN MIND OUR STATE DELEGATION MEET SOMETHING ON AUH , WHICH IS NEXT WEEK. THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, POLICY CONFERENCE IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEK.

KEEP THOSE IN MIND AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS THERE MAY BE A POLICY ISSUE AT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES THAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO INCORPORATE. WE CAN DO A YOU HAVE APPROVE IT NEXT MONTH IF POSSIBLE. THAT DEPENDS ON MR. MIMMS AND ADDING TO THE AGENDA FOR THE DAY.

LET'S START WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PRIORITIES HERE.

PLEASE STOP MY ANY TIME YOU WANT TO DURING THE PRESENTATION.

WE CAN DISCUSS IT OR GO OVER IT BUT THEY'RE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND A LOT OF THEM A ARE WHAT THE LEAGUE PUSHES FORWARD ON OUR BEHALF IT IS LIKE A COLLABORATION WITH THE LEAGUE. THE CITY SUPPORTS THAT INS HANSS THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I WILL SLOW DOWN BECAUSE I TALK REALLY FAST.

>> IF YOU ARE GOING TO READ IT. ENTERPRISE JOB GROWTH.

THE CITY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING THAT GRANT.

WE WANT TO SUPPORT IT AND SUPPORT THE FULL FUNDING.

QUALIFIED TARGETED INDUSTRIES. UNFORTUNATELY, THE QTI HAD SUN SET WHICH MEANS THAT IT THROUGH STATUTE IT HAD EXPIRED IT NO LONG SER IN PLACE. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SUPPORT SOME LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD EITHER IMPLEMENT THE QTI AGAIN OR A SIMILAR PROGRAM THAT IS THE QTI.

QUALIFIED TAR TARGETED INDUSTRIES.

THIS IS AN INCENTIVE A STATE USES, WE CAN USE HERE TOE ATTRACT BUSINESSES TO EXPAND HERE LOCALLY OR ATTRACT THEM TO THE AREA. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ON BOARD WITH. WE HAVE USED IT FOR THE INDUSTRIES HERE. VISIT FLORIDA, OF COURSE WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM.

AND THEN PUBLIC RECORD AND OPEN MEETING EXEMPTIONS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU KNOW, LOT OF TIMES WE GET THE CODE NAMES FOR THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE -- THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT. IN THIS INSTANCE, SORRY MY

THROAT IS A LITTLE -- >> ,.

>> WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE EXEMPTION OF PUBLIC RECORDS SO YOU CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS -- THANK YOU, LINDA -- SO YOU CAN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND ALL BEFORE THE COMPANY CONFIRMS CAN YOU WORK WITH IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC RECORD SITE SO YOU ARE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM

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THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPORTING. ANY QUESTIONS ON ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT? >> WHAT IS THE PUSH BACK ON THAT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT IT IS NOT FLESHED OUT. WE PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND PEOPLE GET EXCITED. THINGS FALL APART.

WE HAVE EGG ON OUR FACE. I GET THAT.

THAT'S THE FEAR. WHAT ELSE ARE WE ANTICIPATING

WITH THIS? >> THE STATE IS SUNSHINE STATE.

THAT'S THE OTHER PART WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXEMPTING THEM IS THE

SUNSHINE ISSUE. >> I GOT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS PUSHING THAT OR PUSH BACK.

THANK YOU. >> BUDGET AND TAXATION.

WE HAVE, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER ONE ALWAYS HOME RULE AUTHORITY.

ANY LEGISLATION WILL PREEMPT TO RESPOND TO YOUR CITIZENS.

WE WANT TO KEEP THAT. UNFUNDED MANDATES WE GET THOSE.

MANDATES PUT DOWN TO US THAT WE FEED TO DO THIS BUT THERE IS NO FUN FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT SAID THE LEGISLATURE CANNOT PROVIDE YOU UNFUNDED MANDATES SO HOW THEY GET AROUND THEY PASS THE LEGISLATION AND GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO LEVY A FEE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICE SO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT'S HOW THEY GET AROUND THAT.

THEY SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS.

CAN YOU DO THIS TO FUND IT. LOCAL FUEL TAX INDEXING.

NOW THIS IS I SUGGEST REMOVING IT.

WE CAN KEEP IT THERE. THE APPETITE IS NOT THERE LAST YEAR THERE WAS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO IMPOSE A FEE ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE'RE SEEING THAT COMING OUT. THINKING OF SOMETHING ALTERNATIVE REVENUES. AS WE SAW DURING THE PANDEMIC PEOPLE WERE NOT DRIVING OUR FUEL TAX WAS DROPS.

THE REVENUE WE RECEIVED FROM THE FUEL TAX TO DO OUR ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY MINIMAL. SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW TRYING TO BE MORE INNOVATIVE AND OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN STILL COLLECT REVENUE THAT PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION STRUCTURE WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT ON TO THE FUEL TAX.

LET'S THINK OF SOMETHING MORE INNOVATIVE.

I HOPE THE LEAGUE WILL COME UP WITH SOMETHING THIS WEEK.

AND IF YOU REGISTER A CAR YOU HAVE TO PAY A FEE.

I KNOW IN OREGON, THEY HAVE WHERE YOU GET A LITTLE DEVICE AND IT IS A VETERAN PROGRAM YOU PAY A SEIZE TO UP GRADE TRANSPORATION. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT ANOTHER STATE HAS DONE TO PROVIDE REVENUE.

>> DIDN'T THE TPO JUST APPROVE THE PRIORITIES AND HAD

LANGUAGE? >> WIFE CAN YOU WORK WITH PETER BUCKWALD. I THINK THE LANGUAGE WE APPROVED

IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CPI.

>> WE HAVE THAT IN THERE. >> MY SUGGESTION WAS TO REMOVE IT TO THINK OF DIFFERENT WAYS BUT WE CAN LEAVE THAT IN THERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING. THAT IS WHAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS PUSHING SO THAT TRANSPORTATION HAS A SCHEDULED HEARING IN SEPTEMBER ON THE VERY ISSUE.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO INDEX IT TO THE CPI.

THEY WERE CLOSE LAST YEAR AND THINGS IMPLODED DURING THE ELECTION. THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET TO IT. WE HOPE THEY WILL IN SEPTEMBER AND HAVE A HEARING ON IT. RIGHT NOW THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS ABLE TO INDEX THE FUEL TAX TO THE CPI.

THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND OURSELVES.

>> MEANING LOCAL. >> LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, YES.

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>> THE ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES, WE DON'T WANT TO BE

SHORT-SIGHTED. >> ARE YOU SEEING A LOT AND THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSING PROVIDING INCENTIVES FOR ELECTRIC CARS IF YOU BUY THE CAR YOU GET AN INCENTIVE.

THERE IS THAT PUSH, TOO. >> WE'LL SEE OUR -- THE EXPENSES

ON TO OUR FUEL TAXES. >> RIGHT.

>> COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION SERVICES TAX.

THAT PROTECTS THE GENERAL REVENUES FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES TAX. AND EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR THE LEGISLATURE FILES THE TAX PACKAGE.

AND THEY ALWAYS HIT THE CST. ALWAYS.

SO WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT ON THERE.

>> IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL BUT THEY TRY, RIGHT?

>> THEY ALWAYS TRY. THE FIRST DRAFT INCLUDES PUTTING THE LOCAL CST AND THEN COME TOWARDS THE END THEY ARE CUTTING THEMSELVES. SO -- WE KEEP THIS ON THERE.

KEEP THAT PUSH GOING SO WE CAN KEEP THE CST.

SALES TAX EQUITY LEGISLATION THAT REFORMS SALES TAX LAWS THAT APPLY TO ONLINE SALES. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO REMOVIE THIS BILL 50 PASSED LAST YEAR WHICH IMPLEMENTS THAT INTO THE FORT STATUTES. LOCAL BUSINESS TAX.

SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT PROTECTS THE GENERAL REVENUE AND LOCAL BUSINESS TAX. THERE WERE SEVERAL PIECES OF LEGISLATION FILED REGARDING. I SAY LEAVE THIS ON THERE.

THEY CAN STILL TOUCH IT. >> THE LEAGUE IS GOING TO PASS UP WITH OF THE PILES WILL BE SIMILAR LANGUAGE BUT MORE -- LESS -- THE LEGISLATURE THINKS CITIES ARE ALWAYS GATHERING UP ALL THIS MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPEND IT, THEY ARE TRYING TO WRITE IT IN A CREATIVE WAY THAT DOES NOT SAY PROTECT THE LOCAL BUSINESS TAX BUT PROTECTS THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES FOR SAFE CONDUCT OF BUSINESS AND SO.

THERE IS CREATIVE LANGUAGE AND WRITTEN IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE AND FINALIZE THE POLICIES ON THURSDAY, I THINK.

>> THE NEXT ONE IS THE SALES TAX ON COMMERCIAL LEASES.

THIS ONE WAS IN HERE AND NOT LAST YEAR BUT THE YEAR BEFORE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT DID GO THROUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE END AND IT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP THEY DIED BEFORE THE BILL WAS TAKEN UP AND WHAT IT WOULD DO IT WAS GOING TO REDUCE YOUR STATE SALES TAX AND OPTION SALES TAX ON THE COMMERCIAL LEASES.

IT IS ON THE LEASES DOWNTOWN. THIS WOULD REDUCE YOUR ABILITY TO DO THAT. 0 THE OTHER -- THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHEN IT STARTED REMOVING THAT ABILITY AND THEN THE FINAL PIECE OF LEGISLATION WAS REDUCING IT.

REDUCING IT BY 5%. >>> BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEES.

WE'RE WE SHOULD WE WANT TO AMEND NOT LAST YEAR BUT A FEE WHICH THE ENTERPRISE FUND FOR FEES WERE YOU NOT -- DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CARRY FORWARD YOU PUT A -- I'M TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. YOU ADD ALL OF YOUR REVENUE TOGETHER UNDER THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND THERE IS ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT YOU CAN BRING FORWARD AND IT IS ONLY INCORPORATED IN THE OPTION RATION -- OPERATION FUNDS.

YOU HAVE TO ADD IT TOGETHER AND THEN CAN YOU ONLY TAKE WHAT IS REQUIRED OF TO YOU OPERATE YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. TECHNICALLY DO YOU NOT HAVE A RESERVE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE BUILDING FEE RESERVED TO TAP INTO IT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OPERATIONS.

SO, THE LIKE MIAMI. MIAMI HAD $102 MILLION IN THE BUILDING ENTERPRISE FUND THEY KEPT CARRYING IT FORWARD AND FORWARD AND FORWARD AND THE LEGI LEGISLATURE SAW THIS WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE 102 MILLION.

THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO.

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THEY CANNOT CARRY 102 MILLION OVER AND OVER.

>> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE LEGISLATURE SEES MIAMI-DADE THEY

DON'T LIKE THEY SAY -- >> BROWARD.

>> SO THE REST OF RUSS LIKE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

>> YES. , GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ON THERE SO WE CAN SUPPORT THE FULL FUNDING OF THE SROS AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL SO THEY CAN GET THE FUNDING FROM THE LEGISLATURE.

THE ONE THING ABOUT THE DISTRICT HOW WE GO THROUGH A BUDGET PROCESS WE PUT -- WE DETERMINE OUR MILLAGE RATE AND PUT IT OUT THERE. THE LEGISLATURE TELLS THE DISTRICT WHAT THEY WILL LEVY. THE LEGISLATURE TELLS HOW MUCH YOU WILL HAVE IN EACH ONE OF THE OPERATIONAL FUNDS.

THEIRS IS DIFFERENT. WE WANT TO TELL THE LEGISLATURE YOU NEED TO FULLY FUND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CATEGORY.

ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES -- ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES. SO, WE DEP FUNDING AND PERMITTING. THIS IS THE BEACH PROJECT.

THE BEACH MANAGEMENT FOR FORT PIERCE BEACH.

EVERY YEAR WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR FUNDING FOR FORT PIERCE BEACH. WE ARE GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR FORT PIERCE BEACH THIS YEAR.

LET ME GET THAT AMOUNT HERE. I APOLOGIZE.

IT IS 1.2 MILLION WE ARE GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR FORT PIERCE AND 1.8 MILLION FOR THE SAND TRAP SO THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR THOSE.

AS YOU KNOW, THE SAND TRAP WILL HELP US PUT SAND ON THE BEACH AND THE CORPS CANNOT PUT IT ON THE BEACH THAT YEAR OR FOR THE EMERGENCY -- IMMEDIATELY AFTER A STORM WE MOVE IT OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INLET TO PUT IT ON THE BEACH AND A FULL RENOURISHMENT. IT IS 3 MILLION-DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GOING FOR FORT PIERCE BEACH.

THIS IS FORT PIERCE BEACH ONLY. WATER REFORM AND REPORT THE FINANCIAL NEED OF FLORIDA'S WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS JUST SUPPORTING THE OVERALL RESILIENCY PLANNING GRANTS AND THE WATER QUALITY GRANTS.

THE TECHNOLOGY GRANTS. THOSE THAT WE TAP INTO TO PROVIDE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THE WATER QUALITY FOR THE AREA. AND THE INDIAN RIVER AND EVERGLADES SO THIS IS SUPPORTING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON SOUTH COMPONENT WHICH IS PART OF WHAT IS CALLED THE C COMB PRE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS SERP.

IT IS A IRL SOUTH WHICH IS THE C 23, 2 4 NORTH AND SOUTH RES SIMILAR VOIRS AND C-25. THE C-25 IS THE ONE THAT DISCHARGES INTO THE FORT PIERCE INLET THERE SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT ALL OF YOU SHOULD PUT ON THERE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP IN 24, THE DESIGN FOR THAT.

>> THE LEVEL AND WATERWAYS. ARE YOU A COASTAL CITY AND YOU HAVE A MARINA WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT THERE.

THE STATUTORY FUNDING AND REMOVAL OF THE VESSELS AND CONIC OFFENDERS, MOORING FIELDS. SEA WALLS, FLOATING VESSEL AND SEA GRASSES. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.

THIS IS AN OLD GRAPH HERE THAT ARE YOU SEEING THERE.

THAT'S THE OLD ONE. THERE IS A NEW ONE THAT WILL BE

INCLUDED IN YOUR. >>> TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE.

WE'RE GOING FOR THE FLORIDA SEAPORT AND TRANSPORTATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS UNDER FDOT.

WE GO EVERY YEAR. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE DID RECEIVE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS. $806,000 FOR THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE WHICH WILL GO TO OPERATION AND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE THAT WITH ANY PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE BUT AS SOON AS THEY, DO I WILL LET YOU -- I WILL COMMUNICATE THOSE TO YOU. MOVING ON TRANSPORTATION FUNDING. IN THIS ONE WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION THAT PROVIDES YOU THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR

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WE WANT TO OPPOSE ANY LEGISLATION THAT PREEMPTS THE AUTHORITY AND TRANSPORTATION CON CURRENCY.

I PUT TRANSPORTATION CON CURRENCY ON THE OFF CHANCE OF MOBILITY FEES. THAT IS BEING CIRCULATED AS WELL. MICROKNOW BILLTY PROGRAMS. SUPPORTS THE ABILITY TO MANAGE THE MICROKNOW BILL TILL PROGRAMS THE BIKES, SCOOTERS, SO YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO REGULATE THOSE AND BE ABLE TO GO INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND BEING ABLE TO LET THEM KNOW WHERE THEY CAN AND CANNOT GO IN YOUR CITY. SO, WE WANT TO HAVE THAT ON THERE. BROAD BAND.

THAT IS -- LAST YEAR WAS A BIG THING.

ANOTHER THIS YEAR THEY WILL GO ONE STEP FURTHER AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR BROAD BAND. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE -- WE'RE AT THE TABLE NOT THE MENU FOR THAT ONE.

>> AND HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

HOMELESSNESS T IS HERE. WE NEED.

THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY WE NEED TO COME TO ON THIS ISSUE AND WE NEED TO LET THE LEGISLATURE KNOW THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE AND WE NEED ASSISTANCE. NOT THROUGH SHIP AND THROUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BOOTS ON THE GROUND PERSON TO PERSON ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM. AND A LOT OF TIME WE GET AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE GET HEARD THAT HUD IS THERE.

THEY HAVE THE MONEY. HUD HAS THE ASSISTANCE.

THEY REALLY DON'T SO ANY PUSH WE CAN MAKE TO LET THE LEGISLATURE GET, PROVIDE AS MUCH HELP AS THEY K.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT HOMELESSNESS, RIGHT.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE.

THIS HAS BEEN AN ESCALATING PROBLEM.

AND WHAT IS YOUR TAKE, I HEAR WHAT ARE YOU SAYING.

I'M CONCERNED AND THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO GET OUR HAND AROUND QUICK EVICTIONS, THINGS THAT LEAD TO HOMELESSNESS. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE TO MAKE AN EFFORT ON.

OUR COMMUNITY CAN SUFFER. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN-HOISTING THAT COULD BE FACING EVICTIONS.

CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT OR CAN YOU ADD TO THIS ON THE

HOMELESSNESS PIECE? >> IT IS BECAUSE IT IS LIKE YOU POINTED OUT YOU HAVE EVICTIONS YOU HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. RIGHT NOW I CAN NOT AFFORD A HOUSE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S OUR BIG ISSUE HERE AND ASKING FOR HELP. BECAUSE YOU WILL SEE THAT A LOT OF THE HOMELESS, THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR HELP.

WE HAVE TO FIND THEM. THE DEVELOPING AND BOOTS ON THE GROUND PROGRAM THAT DOES OUTREACH AND GOES TO THE PERSON'S HOUSES AND WANT IT. HOW ARE YOU DOING.

>> THERE IS NOT RESOURCES THERE FOR THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM.

AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IS OVER THIS AND WE NEED TO BRING THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES INTO THIS AS WELL. BECAUSE THEY -- THEY SAY IF THEY HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE WE'LL STEP IN.

THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY STEP IN. IT IS TALKING ON ALTERNATIVES.

BUILDING A PROGRAM WITHIN DCF AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, USING THE COALITIONS AS A BOOTS ON THE GROUND GIVING THEM THE RESOURCES. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO START IS THAT YOU NEED TO START LOCALLY ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY'RE UP HERE. HOW MUCH DOWN DO YOU NEED?

>> I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE COALITION.

THAT'S THE KEY TO GETTING THIS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DO THAT WORK. THEY WALK IN THE COMMUNITIES.

THEY SERVE THEM AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PULLING THEM WITH US TOE MAKE THE MARKET.

SOME IS EDUCATION AND UNDERSTAND THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND ASKING THEM TO HELP US MAKE THE CALLS TO LEGISLATORS AND TALK TO DANA AND GAIL AND THE REST OF THOSE LEGISLATORS.

THEY DO BUT THEY NEED A FAME WITH THE FACE OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE WORK RIGHT NOW WHO ARE UNDER RESOURCED.

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PUBPUBLIC SAFETY. WE CANNOT PUSH THEY'LL FROM THE CITY. THEY ARE THERE AND YOU KNOW THE PANDEMIC AND DISEASE IT WILL CONTINUE THAT'S THE GROUP THAT'S NOT TAKEN CARE OF. AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

AND PEOPLE DOING THE WORK AND I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT MORE BEHIND IT AND DO WAY CAN TO HELP US.

THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THE WORK.

>> YES, ONE THING I WANT -- WE HAVE OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE HERE,

TOO. >> OUR RENTAL WE HAVE TO PAY THE LANDLORD DIRECTLY SO WE DON'T HAVE WILLING LANDLORDS ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE MONEY THEY HAVE TO GET I-9 AND PROVIDE A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION THAT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IN NEED FOR THE ASSISTANCE.

I'M NOT PUTTING IT ON LANDLORDS THERE ARE SOME NO.

I'M GOING TO GET THE NEXT LEASE.

WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE A PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WE HAVE MONEY WE CAN SPEND IT. IT IS HELPING THEM GET THEIR RENT PAID FOR THE NEXT YEAR COMD EVICTIONS WILL START GOING AGAIN UNLESS THE PRESIDENT EXTENDS IT AGAIN.

>> I I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.

I TALKED WITH OFFICIALS I HAD MR. JEFFERSON I WAS ASTOUND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT THEY CANNOT GET PEOPLE TO TRY TO QUALIFY AS THEY ARE WATCHING THIS AND NEED HELP, PLEASE, YOU KNOW REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY TO GET THE MONEY AND TRY TO STOP THE PEOPLE GETTING EVICTED.

>> ENCOURAGE THE LANDLORDS. >> THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THE PROGRAM IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE INDIVIDUAL.

THE L LANDLORD CAN SAY HAVE THIS PERSON WHO IS BACK ON BACK

AND THIS HELP ME PAY FOR THIS. >> ARE YOU SAYING THEY WOULD RATHER LET THAT PERSON GO AND RENT TO SOMEONE ELSE BEFORE THEY WANT TO PONY UP ALL THE INFORMATION?

>> THERE ARE S SOMETIMES THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WITH A NEW LEASER THEY GET FIRST AND LAST MONTHS AND A SECURITY DEPOSIT SOMETIMES IT IS MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO GO TO ANOTHER.

I'M NOT PUTTING ALL IN THIS. WE HAVE LANDLORDS THAT ARE LIKE YES I WILL DO IT. I FILLED OUT THE I-9.

HERE IS THE FORM. THERE ARE SOME NO I'LL PASS.

WE RUN INTO THAT. WE HAVE MONEY.

THAT'S WHAT WE CAN PAYS OF YOUR FRIEND.

AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS THE ABILITY TO HOUSE THE HOMELESS AND THERE HAS TO BE ELIGIBILITY AND THEN THEY GO ON

A WAIT LIST NOT THE MOST. >> NOT NECESSARILY THEY CAN GIVE YOU A VOUCHER. AND TAKE IT OR THE LIST AND.

AND TAKE THE VOLUMERS AND HOUSE THEM WHEN THE CRISIS AND THEY ARE. THE LONG THEY'RE LIST IS THE

MORE PEOPLE WE CAN PLACE. >> AS A LANDLORD AND SPEAKING TO A LOT OF THEM. RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BE A LANDLORD PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR HOUSING.

YOU SAY LET THIS PASS TO FIND ONE I DON'T HAVE HIGH MAINTENANCE WITH THAT PAYS THE RENT EVERY MONTH WE GO BACK TO IT; THINK ABOUT THE LANDLORDS, THEY HAVE 30, 40, 50 TENANTS.

WHAT THEY DO THEY TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT AND MOVE ON.

IT'S NOT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

THEY'RE MAKING GOOD BUSINESS DECISIONS FOR THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT MOVING FORWARD. I MEAN, I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN OVER AND OVER. YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMPETING FOR THAVE THE SAME WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE. MOVE IN PAY THE RENT THE 1ST OF EVERY MONTH. NOT GIVE ME A PROBLEMKY MOVE ON.

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>> FREE MARKET. >> OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? >> PROCEED?

>> HEALTHY FAMILIES, EARLY STEPS PROGRAM.

WE HAVE AN EARLY STEPS PROGRAM HERE ON THE TREASURE COAST IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.

WE ARE PUSHING ON THAT ONE. THAT'S THE WRONG EXPLANATION.

THAT'S IN TO THE LIBRARIES WHICH WE DO WANT TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING THE LIBRARIES AND THE COOPERATIVE GRANT PROGRAM SO STATE AID AND COOPERATIVE AND THE CONSTRUCTION GRANTS.

THE LIBRARY SYSTEM TAPS INTO THOSE A LOT FOR REMODELING AS WELL AS NEW PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN TAP INTO.

NEW PROGRAMS THEY WANT TO UNVEIL IN THE LIBRARY SYSTEM THEY GO TO THE GRANT PROGRAM TO FUND THAT. AND SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT FUNDING. THERE IS LIBRARIES FUNDING.

INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. IT DID RECEIVE FULL FUNDING FORETHEIR VOCATIONAL FACILITY THROUGH THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CAPITAL. KUDOS AND THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO BROUGHT THAT OVER THE FINISH LINE.

SO THIS WAS ONE THAT WE CAN EITHER KEEP THIS IN THERE OR JUST REMOVING THE LANGUAGE ON THEIR VOCATIONAL BUILDING AND SUPPORTING IRSC ON THE OPERATING FUNDING AND EDUCATION ISSUES,

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> MAKE IT MORE GENERIC.

>> I HAVE, YOU KNOW SEVERAL YEARS AGO A LEGISLATOR WHO WANTED TO DO AWAY WITH STATE COLLEGES, I'M NOT NAMING NAMES.

TWO-YEAR AND THE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE PROVIDING BACHELOR PROGRAMS OR COMPETING AGAINST UNIVERSITIES.

SHOW ME THE UNIVERSITY IN OUR TREASURE COAST AREA AND THE FOUR COUNTY REGION THAT ARE WORKFORCE CAN GO TO TO GET A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. THERE ISN'T.

IRSC LETS PEOPLE CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION AND TING A SELL IN THEIR CURRENT WORK. SO WE NEED THE SUPPORT OUR INSTITUTE HERE IN OUR HOME TOWN TO FLOURISH AND OFFER THESE

OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR COMMUNITY. >> IT IS A TRUE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND DEDICATED TO PROVIDING THE WORKFORCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS IMPORTANT, YES.

>> I MEET WITH DR. MOORE. HE HAS A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO EXPAND UPON THIS.

YOU SAID GET IT BROAD IN SCOPE BUT HE HAS SOME SPECIFIC IDEAS THAT NEED FUNDING, I'M OKAY WITH ADDING THOSE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I HAVE A MEETING WITH ANDREW

TREADWELL TO DISCUSS THAT. >> VERY GOOD.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE POLICY ISSUES OF THE PROGRAM.

MR. IS DISCUSSION OF LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS THAT I NEED TO DISCUSS THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR I THINK YOU WILL BE RECEIVING A PRESENTATION ON THIS LATER BUT THE LINCOLN THEATER THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LINCOLN THEATER.

THE TOTAL COST IS $3.3 MILLION THAT'S THE ESTIMATED COST IS $3.3 MILLION. THAT I'M NOT RECOMMENDING GOING AFTER ALL $3.3 MILLION. HOW MUCH WOULD YOU WANT TO FIRST AND FOREMOST DO YOU WANT TO GO AFTER THIS REQUEST.

THE PARTNERSHIP AND THEN IF YOU DO HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO ASK FOR AND WHAT WOULD THE ASK BE. SO IT IS -- THAT WAS, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS ON THAT REQUEST. I KNOW MR. MIMES IS MORE VERSED

IN THE THEATER. >> IS THERE SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE WE PHASE THAT IN LIKE IRSC ASK FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR THE DESIGN AND THEY DID IT OVER TIME AND SO IS THERE A JUSTIFICATION

FOR A LESSER AMOUNT, MR. MIMES? >> I DO BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE APPROPRIATE MECHANISM. YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE LINCOLN THEATER PRESENTATION. YOU WILL RECEIVE IT NEXT MONTH.

>> NEXT MONTH. >> IT IS A BEAUTIFUL CONCEPTUAL PLAN, HOWEVER, WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING IDENTIFY BUTT I KNOW THIS WILL BE A CATALYST FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AS WILL THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM. AND A INITIATIVE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR LOCAL AND FORMER LEGISLATIVE DELEGATESMENT WE MAY NEED TO TAKE THIS STEP BY STEP THAT'S WHAT WE'LL ASK AS

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I THINK THAT WE CAN WORK TO A PARTNERSHIP.

THAT WILL BE FEASIBLE WHEN WE DETERMINE WHAT IS NEEDED AND THE

SCHEDULE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION. >> ASK FOR A HALF A MILLION THEY CUT IT BACK TO $250,000.

>> WHY STOP THERE.

>> THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS EARLY.

I DO TO THE END OF AUGUST AND THE WEEKS ARE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. AFTER YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION WITH THE THEATER WE CAN FILE THE REQUEST FORMS AND MEET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE AND THAT'S WHO WE GO TO AND SENATOR HARRELL WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU SPONSOR. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT AGREED ON BEFORE AUGUST 19TH. AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. MR. MIMES CAN LET ME KNOW.

AND IN ADDITION TO THE 22 PROGRAM.

>> I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> OKAY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. SO LET'S THINK STRATEGY ON THIS ENDEAVOR THINKING ABOUT IN PART THEATER AND THE HIGHWAY AND THE MUSEUM WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TAGS AND THEN THE MEANS COURT CENTER AND DEVELOPING THAT PARCEL THERE, IS THERE A STRATEGY WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT IN THE ASKING FOR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER OR DO WE FOCUS ON ONE AND ASK FOR THE BITS AND PIECES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE THEATER.

THE QUESTION IS DO WE ASK FOR MORE STRATEGY -- PROPOSE MORE STRATEGY AND THE HIGHWAY MEN MUSEUM EFFORTS? IN DEVELOPING THAT AREA? , OVER THE THEATER AND PRIORITIZE? , THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

WE HAVE A GREAT EFFORT WITHIN THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM AND THE TAGS

COMING FORWARD. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> THAT'S SOMETHING I CONSIDERED.

THE LEGISLATORS KEEP A RUNNING TOTAL OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY. AND EACH APPROPRIATION STAND ON ITS OWN. YOU KNOW.

I THINK THAT IF WE KEEP ASKING AND ASKING AND WE OUR PRIORITIES ARE MOVING IN A DIRECTION THAT MAY NOT BE WHERE WE WANT TO BE, THEY SAY, HEY, THERE UP TO A LIMIT.

THEY HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF APPROPRIATIONS LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER AREA. IT HAS BEEN OUT THERE.

AND IT IS LIKE GETTING THE CHRISTMAS CATALOG AND SAYING I WANT THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU WILL NOT GET ALL OF THAT. YOU HAVE OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT WANT TO GET SOMETHING, TOO.

>> AND I KNOW THAT IN A WAY THEY SHOULD STAND ON THEIR OWN ON THE FORM OF IMPORTANCE, WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THAT BUT THERE IS A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT. THEY SAY WE PUT SO MUCH WE HAVE

TO MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. >> IT IS NOT COUNTY BUT AREA.

CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE.

DO YOU COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER, HOWEVER, WITH THIS -- WITH THE APPROPRIATIONS LET'S SAY THE LINCOLN THEATER THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET WHICH FUNDS THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND WHO FUNDS THE CULTURAL ARTS BUDGET. THAT IS WHERE THE LINCOLN THEATER WILL COME OUT OF. WHAT I DO YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER APPROPRIATION COMPETING WITH THAT.

THEY COME TO THE REPRESENTATIVE SAY WHAT DO YOU WANT YOU ARE GOING TO GET ONE. SHE CALLS MR. MIMMS OR ONE OF YOU SAYS WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT THEY'RE ASKING ME WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE YOU HAVE TO TELL HER.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ONE PROJECT IN EACH AREA OF THE BUDGET IT IS SEPARATED OUT.

FED AND TRANSPORTATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THAT WORKS OUT THERE IS A CHAIRMAN FOR EACH AREA OF THAT BUDGET THAT'S WHO SHE IS GOING TO EVER REU8 TIME TO SAY HERE IS MY NUMBER ONE.

HE IS HEARING THIS. THIS IS WHAT SHE IS GOING TO GET. WITH THATBEING SAID.

WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN FOR WHAT THE WOULD COME OUT.

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>> CULTURAL ARTS. >> IT IS COMPETING.

>> IT THE MUSEUM AND CULTURAL ARTS.

THAT'S A CATEGORY UNDER UNDER THE DEO BUDGET T IS THE SAME CATEGORY. IF YOU HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNDING AGENT AND THEN CULTURAL ARTS IT IS KIND OF COMPETING SHE IS GOING TO THE SAME CHAIRMAN SAYING I NEED THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.

IF SHE IS SAYING I NEED THIS SHE WILL GET THAT OUT OF THE 119 OTHER PEOPLE ASKING THE PERSON FOR A PROJECT.

>> WE DO HAVE TO CONSIDER A STRATEGY IN THE CASE BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES THEY STAND ALONE AND THEY ARE SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY IN TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND SO, I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGY TO INCOME THAT.

>> THE HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM ARE THEY GOING FOR A GRANT OR

LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION. >> THE LINCOLN WE UNDERSTAND.

THE MARTIN LUTHER KING COMMITTEE THAT OWNS THAT BUILDING.

THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TERM OBJECTIVE FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. NOW WE'RE AT A POINT WE HAVE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS THAT CAN BE USED FOR KATE CAMPAIGNS AND FUNDRAISING AND GRANTS. THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM WE HAVE A SHORT TERM THAT THEY WILL BE MOVING IN UPON YOUR OBSERVATION CAUTION OF THE AGREEMENT TOMORROW.

NOW, THE BIGGER VISION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. I DON'T KNOW THE ENTITY THAT WILL BE APPLYING AS OF YET. AND WE HAVE A BID THAT IS UP COMING THAT I BELIEVE WILL PROVIDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING AND IMPROVE THE AREA. WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TOGETHER AND PRIORITIZE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

BUT FOR THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.

THE THEATER HAS BEEN ON OUR LIST.

IN MY RECOMMENDATION I WOULD SAY THE THEATER SHOULD TAKE

PRIORITY. >> ONE LAST QUESTION.

>> IF I HERE YOU RIGHT WE ASK FOR A LEGISLATIVE ASK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT DOES NOT STOP THE ORGANIZATION FROM PUTTING IN A GRAND AS WELL. THEY CAN DO THAT AS AS A PRIORITY ITIT COULD EXIST SO WE COULD GET A LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION BUT WE IF AS THE MUSEUM APPLIED FOR THE GRANT, WE KNOW THERE ARE 30 MILLION OUT THERE.

AND THEY COULD GET THAT. RIGHT.

>> THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ASK FOR THE LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD BE, WE'RE I THINK THAT IF WE COULD THINK ABOUT THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS LINCOLN THEATER, THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM. WE HAD THAT PLAN ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT -- SO, IF WE COME UP WITH A -- A NAME OR SOME KIND OF, IF THIS IS THE PROJECT FOR, MEAN THIS IS BIGGER THAN THE LINCOLN THEATER AND THE ROOT PROGRAM AND BIGGER, YOU KNOW, AND THE MEANS COURT IS A PART OF THAT.

IT WOULD, TO ME THE STRATEGY WOULD BE HAVE A NAME FOR THE WHOLE CONGLOMERATE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR NEIGHBORHOOD UP LIFT OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE THING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TOMORROW.

NEIGHBORHOOD INCUBATOR. >> NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

I BELIEVE. >> INC.

>> INC. SO, WE -- TO ME THAT WHOLE, ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THEY ARE ALL THERE TOGETHER AND THEY WILL BE A REAL ENHANCEMENT FOR THE LINCOLN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> IF I COULD BUILD ON TO THAT. YOU KNOW.

WHEN I MADE THE STATEMENT, YOU KNOW I LIKE THE IDEA.

WE HAVE TO BUILD THE STRATEGY. PUT IT IN A PRIORITY ORDER.

THAT'S OKAY IF THINGS MOVE AROUND.

I THINK THAT LINCOLN THEATER, YOU KNOW IN THE CASE, MAY MOVE AROUND A BIT BECAUSE THERE IS MOMENTUM BEHIND WHAT OUR FORMER REPRESENTATIVES HAVE PUT FORWARD.

THERE GETTING OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING.

WHEN THE STATE SEES YOU IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM AND SOME

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THEY START -- AT THE MAY START PUTTING IN FUNDING OR DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT. IF WE CATCH ON TO THE MOMENTUM AND MAYBE WE CAN PUSH IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND BUILD THE OTHER IDEAS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW IN A HOLISTIC APPROACH LIKE YOU SAY, AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO HELP US WHEN YOU SAID THAT QUESTION OTHER ASKED THAT QUESTION, YOU JUST SPURRED ALL THE THINGS IN MY MINDKY NOT SPIT OUT THIS MORNING FOR SOME REASON

AND -- >> I KNOW THE FEELING.

>> IT IS -- IT HAS TO BE A STRATEGY BUT I WANT TO CATCH ON TO THAT. OTHERS HAVE BEEN WORKING THERE AND CONTINUE TO WORK LIKE THE LINCOLN THEATER COMMITTEE HAS

BEEN WORKING SO -- >> ARE YOU SAYING ANYBODY RETHINK THE LINCOLN THEATER BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE MAY HAVE

THE MOMENTUM? >> I JUST DON'T WANT ALL OF THE PROJECTS TO COMPETE WITH ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT A STRATEGY IN PLACE SAYING HERE IS THE NUMBER ONE THROUGH TEN.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE WANT TO GO FORWARD.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND LOOKING AT FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIECE THE FPRA. WE PARTNERS WITH THE ROOT GROUP TO START THIS BUSINESS APPROACH AND A NEIGHBORHOOD APPROACH AND INCUBATOR APPROACH AND MEANS COURT.

WEE HAVE THE PROPERTY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

>>> IT CAN BE THE SAME NARRATIVE EVERY TIME YOU FILE A GRANT

APPLICATION. >> IF I COULD, YEARS AGO I WOULD SAY 8 YEARS AGO AND AND FORT PIERCE.

WE WENT TO THE TREATMENT PLANT AND WENT TO THE BEACH AND DID A TOUR WITH THEM TO SHOW THE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO.

WHEN WE TALK TO THEM. THEY SAY I REMEMBER.

THAT I REMEMBER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING INVITE DEO TO COME TO FORT PIERCE AND SHOW THEM.

THEY ARE THE FUNDING AGENCY. AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. CULTURAL ARTS.

THEY ARE THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE PROJECTS.

THE AGENCY. INVITING THEM DOWN AND DOING ANOTHER CURE AND SHOWING THEM WHAT WE WANT.

AND GOING FORWARD. IT IS A LITTLE EASIER TO DEVELOP THE STRATEGY AND COMMUNITY IT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE.

THEY KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT VISION.

SEEING WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WANT TO BE A PARTNER IN IT AS WELL. AND MAYBE SOMETHING OF THAT, AND INVITING THEM DOWN. AND A TOUR.

>> YES, YES. >> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. >>> THE NEXT IS THE PARKING

[b. Parking Committee Recommendations]

>> AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WE HAVE OUR PARKING COMMITTEE CHAIR THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATIONS FOLLOWING THEIR

RECENT MEETINGS. >> THIS NOT MY PRESENTATION BY

THE WAY. >>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN MEETING REGULARLY WE HAVE A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

SOME TO MOVE SOME ISSUES FORWARD.

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IT TOOK INTO EXISTING PARKING CONDITIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TARGETING THE LINCOLN PARK AREA AND THE BUSINESS DISTRICT DOWNTOWN. THE BEACH AREA AND THE DISTRICT. THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION IS PRIMARILY IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT THAT IS DOWNTOWN. THE ANALYSIS THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU IS SOMETHING THAT I GENERATED.

THE THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS AND A COUPLE OF VARIATIONS BETWEEN THE ANALYSIS I PROVIDED AND THE WALKER PARKING STUDY. THE SERVICE PARKING LOT CAPACITY FOR THE STUDY IS 497 SPACES. THAT'S EXCLUDING ONSTREET PARKING AND GARAGE PARKING. THAT'S SURFACE LOTS ONLY.

IN THE WALKER PARKING STUDY THEY DID NOT INCLUDE THE SAINT ANDREWS, SAINT LUCIE, CITY OF FORT PIERCE, PARKING WHICH IS 86 SPACES OF COMMON, PAG AND THE RIVER WALK CENTER WHICH IS ANOTHER 45 SPACES OF PARKING. BUT THE LOGIC BEHIND THOSE IS THAT THE -- THE COMMUNITY PARKING, CONSTITUENT PARKING NEXT TO THE SCHOOL WAS A OVERSIGHT.

AN ERROR IN THE REPORT. NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

THE RIVER WALK CENTER PARKING SCENARIO.

THEY AT THE TIME THE REPORT WAS GENERATED THEY DID NOT CENTER THAT TO BE CONTIGUOUS PARKING AND KEEP IN MIND THE KINGS LAND BE ISSUE AT THAT POINT WAS VERY PREMATURE AND LOOKING TO COMMAND THE CANDIDATE AND KINGS LANDING I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS ANALYSIS.

THE SUBTOTAL ON THAT PARK SOMETHING 628 SURFACE PARKING LOT SPACES. NOW, ASSUMING THAT THE LANDING PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

THERE WILL BE A NET LOSS OF PARKING.

THERE ARE TWO SURFACE LOTS THAT ARE PART OF THE SITE ONE IS 89 SPACES. ONE IS 114.

ADDING THOSE INTO THE SUBTOTAL PUTS US AT 831 SPACES.

THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE LOT. NOW THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT THE BORDERS THE DRIVE FROM THE GABELES PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S AN ANNUAL LEASE AGREEMENT.

ONE THE SHOVELS GO THEY WILL DETERMINE A BETTER AND HIGHER USE THAN FOR PARKING T IS ALL LIKE LIKELIHOOD THAT PARKING WILL GO AWAY. THAT LOTS PUTS US 945 SPACES PROJECTED LOSS OF PARKING AREA IN THE CORRIDOR IS 317 LEAVING US A NET USABLE SURFACE PARKING LOT CAPACITY OF 628 SPACES ONCE THE KINGS LANDING PROJECT IS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AND IF AND WHEN THAT LEASE LOT WERE TO BE LOST.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES CURRENTLY TODAY.

WALKER PARKING STUDY MAKES MENTION OF THE AND IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF KINGS LANDING AND THE PARKING INVENTORY T IS UNDERSTAND IT WILL CREATE A SECOND DESTINATION EPICENTER AND INCREAS THE DEMAND AND STRESS THE PARKING INVENTORY. THEY GIVE ANALYTICS HERE AND THE PRIMARY NUMBER THEY CAME UP WITH IN THE WALKER PARKING STUDY THE THIS IS A QUOTE. CURSORY REVIEW OF THE PROJECTED LAND USES ESTIMATED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ACQUIRE AND 650 TO 700 PARKING SPACES. SO YOU DON'T NEED A CALCULATOR TO FIGURE OUT 528 NET SPACES OR 26 -- 628 NET SPACES THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO CAUSE A STRESS POINT IN OUR PARKING PROGRAM. THE COMMITTEE HAS LOOKED AT A ALTERNATIVE. WE LOOKED AT UTILIZING THE AREA AND TO DEVELOP A APPROXIMATELY 80 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.

THERE WAS SOME PUSH BACK ON THAT TO MAINTAIN THE GREEN AREA AND THE FUNCTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE. SATURDAY MORNING MARKETS AND WE LOOKED AT THE CAPABILITY OF THAT LOT BUT THAT DIDN'T GET A LOT OF TRACTION. SHORT OF THAT EXPANDING THE PARKING CAPACITY WE'RE LIMITED BY GEOGRAPHIC SCOPE.

THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL LAND AND THE SURFACE PARKING AREA.

AND THE COMMITTEE IS TO HAVE THE WALK PARKING STUDY CLOSE.

TARGET THE AREAS FOR VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, PARKING GARAGES.

AND WE ARE AWARE THERE ARE SITES WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE CONTROLLED OF COURSE AND REFER TO IT THE BISTRO SURFACE PARKING

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WE HAD A VERY FRANK EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION PERTAINING TO PARKING EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE AND WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S CONCERNS ARE THAT ARE EXPRESSED TO THE COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD. IT WAS A GOOD DIALOGUE BUT NO ANSWERS THAT CAME OUT. THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AS I UNDERSTAND AND THE CITY THEY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION. SO, THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING BUILD A PARKING GARAGE TODAY.

WE'RE SUGGESTS WE NEED TO STUDY THE CAPABILITY TO BUILD A GARAGE IN THE FUTURE. A, CAPACITY.

WHAT DO WE NEED. WE DON'T KNOW.

B, LOCATION, ASSUMING WE WANT TO KEEP CONTROL OF THIS WITHIN THE CITY. AS A CITY ASSET.

IT LIMITS OUR CAPABILITY AND AGAIN THEY SUGGEST WE BRING IN THE EXPERTS AND THE PREVIOUS THREE STUDIES TO ENHANCE THAT STUDY TO MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS AS TO WHAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD FOR CAPACITY AND LOCATION.

THAT SUMMARIZES ITEM 1. IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET A Q&A OR WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THEM. HOWEVER YOU WANT.

I SPENT 20 MILLION, THERE IS TIME FOR Q&A.

>> WE'LL ASK FOR IT IN A GRANT. >> ON THE REPORT 6 TO 700 NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO THEIR NEED?

>> THAT'S DETERMINING THEIR NET USABILITY OF PARKING 650 TO 700. THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL DIFFERENT SITE PLANS AS THE PROJECT CHANGED.

THEIR INTERNAL ANALYTICS THEY NEED 740 SPACES.

THAT'S THEIR ENGINEERING PEOPLE THAT CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS.

THE DESIGNS ARE CHANGING AND CONSISTENTLY.

THAT WILL FLUCTUATE UP AND DOWN.

>> THE SHEET THAT YOU HANDED OUT.

WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE GARAGES SO MY, MY GLASS HALF FULL OUTLOOK TAKES INTO THE GARAGES I THINK 460, 465 AND 187 I'M GOING OFF MEMORY. AND 650 TOTAL.

AND ADDITIONAL THAT WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED SO FAR.

>> THAT'S -- THAT'S GOOD NEWS. >> AND TO TALK ABOUT PARKING GARAGES I AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER, IT IS SOMETHING THAT PROPER PLANNING OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS GOING TO NEED IT IS WEATHER THE JC PENNEY BISTRO PROJECT OR THE DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF INDIAN RIVER BUT THE SAME LOCATION. OR IT COULD BE A PRIVATE INTEREST I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO DO A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR UTILIZE A PROPERTY TO REVIEW THIS.

LET'S ERR LET'S PUT IT ON THE STREET AFTER WE GET A CONSULTANT TO REVIEW THE LOOKING WHERE THEY MIGRATE AND THE IMPACTS LIKE KINGS LANDING, FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND LOCATE A STRUCTURE.

I AGREE WITH THAT. >> WE NIDE TO TRACK THE KINGS LANDING DEVELOPMENT WITH WHATEVER POTENTIAL THE CITY HAS HAVE FOR CONSTRUCTION. ONCE THEY COME ON LINE.

THAT WILL BE A DEMAND THE COMMITTEE SUGGEST THAT WE GET THIS MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE HARD INFORMATION TO SUGGEST THESE ARE THE BEST. THIS IS WHAT WE CONSIDER THE TWO TOP ALTERNATIVES. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED.

WE'RE DOING THE FISHING. WE'RE NOT EXPERTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAME DOWN IT DOWNTOWN WAS PACKED.

I PARKED ON THE SURFACE LOTS. I DID THAT WITH GREAT CENTER.

WE IN A SQUARE AND BISTRO IT IS 3/4 FULL I WAS IMPRESSED TO SEE THE AMOUNT TAKING PLACE. THIS WILL INCREASE WHICH IS A PROBLEM ON ONE HAND AND NOT ON THE OTHER.

DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ARE DOING BETTER.

THEY ARE DRIVING BUSINESS INTO DOWNTOWN A SELF-FULFILLING SCENARIO TO INCREASE THE ACTIVITY IN DOWNTOWN.

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WE HAVE TWO MATTERS THAT WILL CRISS-CROSS.

THE SAME TIME. AS THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF WHILE I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THE ISSUE IS HERE TODAY. THIS IS NOT TEN YEARS DOWN THE LINE. WE ARE FACING THIS TODAY.

GETTING OUT IN FRONT. THE STUDY HAS BEEN WONDERFUL RESOURCE AND AND EXPAND ON THAT AND DECISIONS TO MAKE ON THAT.

>> AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB AND IN THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS THAT FUNDING TO PUSH THIS FORWARD. DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THEY COME N WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE PROBLEM, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THEY MAY HAVE LET'S SAY THEY DECIDE TO SELL A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY BY THE WATER. YOU NEED TO SAY, HEY, THIS FITS IN WELL FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE CAN SIT THERE AND PUT THOSE FUNDS TO THE ITEM WHEN THIS HAPPENS IT WILL BE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I KNOW WE SAID IT IS DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE SAME PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WE WEAR A DIFFERENT HAT BUT IT IS IMPORTANT WE DO THIS.

WE LIKE DEALING WITH INFORMATION WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO GET WORSE IN A GOOD ANSWER. IT WILL BE, IT WILL COME DOWN TO THAT FUNDING WORD AGAIN. IF WE KEEP THAT FRONT AND CENTER THIS WILL WORK JUST LIKE WE EXPECTED IT TO.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> , LET ME MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PROBLEM. AND WE PATING GROWTH ON PLANS PRESENTED TO US. WHAT IS CONCERNING IS THAT IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT. WE'RE TRYING TO DRESS IT BUT PLANS OUT THERE FROM ANOTHER ENTITY THAT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO FIND PARKING FOR THAT STRUCTURE.

>> THERE IS A ZERO PARKING REQUIREMENT.

YOU BUILD THAT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PUT IN ANY PARKING.

, LET'S WALK THROUGH THAT IT DID NOT KNOCK THEM DOWN. TO LESSEN THE BURDEN. ZERO OUT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND TO SUGGEST THAT, LOOK.

THERE MAY NOT BE A REQUIREMENT IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ZONING TO PROVIDE PARKING. BUT YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE PARKING. WHATEVER THAT QUANTITY MAY BE IS YET TO BE DETERMINED. THE NUMBERS ARE CLOSE TO THE NUMBERS. SOME ARE IN THAT REQUIREMENT THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE CITY INTERNALLY AND A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS TO MOVE THE APPLICATION FORWARD AND GET INPUT FROM THEM. AND THAT IS -- THAT HAS YET TO REMAIN TO BE DETERMINED. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD APPROVE THE AND OF ONLY 114

SPACES. >> AND THE BOARD WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE JURISDICTION TO BE OVERSEEING PARKING AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE THERE. THE ASSIGNMENT WAS DIFFERENT.

BUT THAT'S HOW IT CAME THROUGH THE BOARD AND PARKING FOR SELLING THE OPERATION OF THE HOTEL AND HE WAS WORKING OUT ALL

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AND THAT DEFICIT OF THE SPACES TODAY IS GOING TO BE A REAL PROBLEM. KEEPING IN MIND ON STREET PARKING WE'RE NOW GETTING INTO THE ENFORCEMENT PHASE OF THAT FOR THE TWO HOUR PARKING AND ROTATIONAL PARKING TAKING PLACE VERSUS ALL DAY ON STREET PARKING WHICH WILL PUSH A FAIR AMOUNT VOLUME INTO PARKING GARAGE AND INTO SURFACE LOTS.

WE'RE AT 100% CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

MOVING FORWARD WE NEED TO GET INTO NEXT PHASE HOW WE INCREASE THAT CAPACITY ESPECIALLY WITH A NET LOSS THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE. THE QUESTION IS CORRECT.

>> WITH THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY PROVIDING A SOLUTION THAT MEANS THE TAXPAYERS, THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM

SOMEWHERE. >> THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO UNDERWRITE ANYONE'S PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT T IS LOOKING FROM THE TOTAL OF LOSS OF PARKING IN THE AREA AND WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES CURRENTLY. THE DEVELOPER PLANS THEY ARE PARALLEL BUT NEAR NOT NECESSARILY JOINED AT THE HIP.

WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE HAVE A ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF PARKING TO GET TO TODAY BUT THAT WILL CHANGE.

THIS IS A TRANSITION OF OVER 1000 PARKING SPACES.

>> LET ME ADD TO. WHEN WE APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT IN CONCEPT WITH KINGS LANDING AND FROM THIS COMMISSIONER'S PERSPECTIVE. THERE ARE TWO ELEMENTS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO ME. SURFACE LEVEL PARKING ACROSS THE STREET NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE PAR PARKING GARAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED. THERE IS A GARAGE PROPOSED ON

THAT PLAN. >> OKAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT SITS TODAY.

THE ONE I SAW THAT I VOTED ON INCLUDES ELEMENTS OF RESTAURANT. RETAIL.

APARTMENTS. CONDOS.

TOTAL ELEMENT. TOWNHOME ELEMENTS AND PARKING GARAGE. I REMEMBER THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT PHASE IT IS.

IT WAS LATER IN THE PROCESS AND PHASE 7 OR 8 IS WHAT I RECALL.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE OVERWHELMED HE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT. HE KNOWS THAT HE HAS TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE RETAIL ESTABLISHES THAT WILL BE THERE FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY THEY HAVE TO HAVE PARKING THEY KNOW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SITS TODAY THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DUSTING OFF THE COB WEBS AND OPENING IT UP

FOR ME. >> I THINK --

>> DON'T BE OUR DISCOURAGED. >> I'M NOT DISCOURAGED B BUTS AS A PERSON THAT HAS A VISION OF THINGS TO SEE IT IS A CONCERN.

A TERN FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET RETAIL CUSTOMERS IN TO PARTAKE AND DOING IT NOW.

THE BUSINESSES AND COULD THAT BE CHOKED OFF.

NOW YOU HAVE LIMITED PARKING BASED ON TIME DOWN THERE.

I HAVE BEEN IN CITIES WHERE THE PARK SOMETHING LIMITED AND PEOPLE TRY TO PARK ON THE STREET TO GET THE CARS TICKETED.

WE CREATE A NEGATIVE SITUATION IN THE CITY AND NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A PLACE DOWNTOWN AND HAVE THE CAR NOT IN A SYSTEM TO ACCESS ESPECIALLY PAYING WHAT YOU ARE PAYING TO STAY IN THAT FACILITY. WE HAVE A WE HAVE TO TALK TO OURSELVES HERE. AND WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS. WHAT I SEE AND HEAR IS CONFLICTING. I DON'T WANT THE PERCEPTION OUT THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR ALL THIS HOW WE'LL DO THAT AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. I DON'T KNOW YET.

I DO REMEMBER THAT COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH COMES FIRST OR SECOND.

IF YOU BUILD A STRUCTURE TOUGH HAVE CARS THAT GO THERE.

>> THEY ONLY GO THERE ONCE. >> AND.

>> TOWED AWAY OR WHATEVER. THANK YOU.

>> KNOWING THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THE REPORTS BACK AND ET CETERA, THIS IS GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR SO WE LOSE ANOTHER FIVE, SIX MONTHS IN ANALYSIS AND DIGESTING THE INFORMATION AND BRINGING IT BACK TO REPORT ON.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A BENCH MARK TO GET INTO THAT TO SAY HERE IS THE IDEA BEFORE WE MOVE IT FURTHER. WE WANT TO GET THE TIME ON OUR

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VERY SOON. WE WANT TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF THIS NOW. GETTING THE PROFESSIONALS ON THIS. HE IT IS A CRITICAL TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND DIGEST THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO TAKE

ACTIONS ON. >> DO I HEAR CONSENSUS ON NUMBER

ONE? >> YES, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

THAT IS THAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR THE STUDY F.

>> OKAY, COME BACK -- OKAY, YEAH.

>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >> THE DIGESTION OF THE INFORMATION STUDIES ONLY. THEY ARE EXPERTS SUGGEST WE

SHOULD GO. >> THE SECOND IS RELATIVE TO THE FUNDING, I THINK WHERE THAT MAY GO.

AND THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.

ITEM 3 IS THIS IS AN IDEA THAT WAS DISCUSSED AMONGST SOME OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY AND THE PARKING COMMITTEE RELATIVE TO THE FUNCTIONALITY OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND THE POTENTIAL OF INSTALLING ANGLED PARKING ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM PLANNING AND ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVES.

THE COMMITTEE IT THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX TO COME UP WITH MORE SOLUTIONS TO GENERATE MORE PARKING.

WE KNOW AND WE HAVE THE BIG EVENTS ON THE WATERFRONT AND BY DEFAULT THE BOTH SIDES ARE ANGLED AND STRAIGHT IN PARKING.

THAT WAS THE GENERAL IS TO SAY WE SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK AT IT.

AND HAVE THE ENGINEERING TEAM FROM THE CITY ANALYZE IT AND CAN IT BE DONE. I KNOW THERE IS A COUNTY COMPONENT. IT IS A COUNTY ROAD AND CONTROLS THE POTENTIAL PARKING IN THE AREA.

WE THOUGHT THERE IS LIKE, LOOK. AGAIN IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S PRACTICAL. IF IT'S NOT WE'RE TOLD IT'S NOT.

WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE IT RESEARCHED AND THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. THEY WERE PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE

DISCUSSIONS. >> THE ANGLED PARK SOMETHING

WHAT -- >> INDIAN RIVER. I KNOW BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS ANGLED PARKING ON MELODY LANE S THAT THE KIND OF PARKING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT CREATES MORE SPOTS? >> WHAT THE COMMITTEE THEY'RE ASKING INVESTIGATE THIS WE KNOW IT WILL CREATE MORE SPOTS.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

THERE COULD BE MANY REASONS WHY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

I'M SUSPICIOUS THERE ARE. BUT THIS KIND MANUFACTURE A GROUND SWELL FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE.

>> I TALKED ABOUT THIS STAFF LEVEL THERE ARE CONCEPTS AND HOBE SOUND IMPLEMENTED IT ON BRIDGE ROAD. IT IS WHAT IT IS THE NEW URBAN DESIGN AND BACK IN ANGLED PARKING ARE YOU LEAVING IN THE CORRECTION ARE YOU NOT MAKING A BACKING MOVEMENT INTO THE TRAVEL LANE YOU MAKE A PARALLEL MOTION BUT IT IS BACK IN ANGLED PARKING. AND HOWEVER.

>> I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT. >> CAN YOU DO IT YOURSELF.

>> AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

>> BUT THAT'S THE CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED AT BRIDGE ROAD AND THE CRA IMPLEMENTED IT THERE.

>> LET'S USE YOUR CAR, I BACK IN IF IT IS ALLOWED.

IT IS AN IDEA A CONCEPT. IT IS A COUNTY ROAD.

WE PARTNER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE HAVE PLANTED A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL TREES OVER THE YEARS. THAT M MAY BE AN MISH THEY PARALLEL PARK, SIDE WAYS, THEY FIND A PLACE ON THE GRASS.

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR FOOT PRINT WE'RE

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>> REFRESH MY MEMORY WHAT PART OF INDIAN RIVER IS COUNTY AND

WHAT PART IS CITY. >> INDIAN RIVER IS COUNTY SOUTH OF CITRUS AVENUE T IS CITY FROM CITRUS TO MARINA WAY AND COUNTY AGAIN FROM MARINA WAY TO SEAWAY.

I BELIEVE IT MAY BE CITY FROM SEAWAY TO FISHERMAN'S WHARF.

IT IS PERIOD AS IT IS SCHEDULED.

AN FDOT IT IS NOT A COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE OR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT. THE ROAD IS IN NEED OF RECONSTRUCTION. THE PAVEMENT IS FAILING AS I RECEIVED SEVERAL REQUESTS TO FIX THE ROAD AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT. BUT IF WEE DO THIS THERE WILL BE A REQUEST THAT THE CITY TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE ROADWAY FROM MARINA WAY TO SEAWAY.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT AS LONG AS WE TAKE OVER A BRAND NEW SECTION OF ROAD. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT THE ANGLED PARKING POSSIBILITY AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF OFF SIDE IMPROVEMENT CONTRIBUTION FROM THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS. >> THERE IS NO PARKING RIGHT NOW FROM THE ROUND ABOUT TO SEAWAY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A HORRENDOUS SITUATION WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS AT VETERANS PARK.

THEY PARK WHEREVER. WE HAVE BEEN VERY KIND -- HE HAS BEEN KIND AND NOT GIVEN ANYONE MANY TICKETS BUT THAT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION TO HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT ANY ORGANIZATION OR STRUCTURE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE SAFETY FOR THE BUSINESSES AND BUSINESSES TO

PARK. >> AND ANOTHER COMMENT.

THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IN THE DISCUSSION AND THE DESIGN TO TAKE ON AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PERVIOUS NOT JUST ASPHALT.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE COLLEGE WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR TRAINING BEFORE. SOME OF THE PARKING AREA IS A PERVIOUS THAT ALLOWS STORM WATER TO PERCOLATE INTO GROUND INSTEAD OF BEING SOLID ASPHALT AND CURB AND GUTTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT MAY GIVE US ENVIRONMENTAL CREATES.

MAYBE. >> AND GOOD AT THAT.

>> I THINK, I HEAR THE INVESTIGATION.

>> THE FINAL ITEM, THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE AND THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COMMISSION. CANDIEDLY I'M HESITANT TO HAVE ANYBODY REMOVED FROM A COMMITTEE AS A VOLUNTEER.

THEY PUT IN THEIR TIME ESPECIALLY WITH THE EVENTS OF LAST YEAR AND A HALF EVERYONE HAS COMPLICATED, BUSINESS PEOPLE HAVE COMPLICATIONS. EVERYONE HAS COMPLICATIONS.

I GET THAT. ON OTHER BOARDS I SIT DOWN, THERE IS AN EXCUSE PROVISION PROVIDED TO THE BOARD I WILL READ FROM THE RESOLUTION FOR THE PARKING COMMITTEE RELATIVE TO ATTENDANCE. THIS IS A SENSITIVE ISSUE.

SECTION E. COMMITTEE MEMBERS BE AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED FOR LACK OF ATTENDANCE, LACK OF ATTENTION DANCE TO ATTEND THREE CONSECUTIVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS OR NATURAL 2/3 OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS DURING A CALENDAR YEAR. ABSENCES BE ENTERED INTO THE MINUTES AND ABSENCES MAY NOT BE EXCUSED.

THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT WE HAVE A DYNAMIC WORKING GROUP WITH THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

THEY WORK HARD. THEY EXCHANGE INFORMATION FREELY AND THERE IS ARM WRESTLING MATCHES THAT GO ON I DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY OF OUR FOLKS. MR. GRIMSLEY CAME ACROSS IN THE SAME E-MAIL I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS REPORTED TO ME FROM OUR LIAISON TO THE CITY MANAGER MR. DAVID BUSHEA

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SO THAT TECHNICALLY HE'S IN DEFAULT AS WELL.

SO IN THEORY WE WOULD BE LOSING TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT HAVE HAD A GOOD LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION.

I GET CONCERNED EVEN FURTHER FROM THE PERSPECTIVE TO SAY THERE WILL BE A THIRD ONE NEXT MONTH.

AND THAT'S GUS GUTIERREZ. I'M WRESTLING.

I KNOW HOW IT IS WRITTEN T IS BLACK AND WHITE.

NO LATITUDE AND NO INPUT. IT'S NOT THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE A MEMBER REMOVED BECAUSE IT IS AUTOMATIC REMOVAL.

SO. >> GO AHEAD.

>> I WANT TO SAY YOU WE'RE VERY CLEAR AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. I WANT TO ACT ON IT FROM A COMMISSION LEVEL. SO THANK YOU.

>> I CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> ARE THESE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS, MR. GRIMSLEY IS MR. ALEXANDER.

MR. BUSHEA IS COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> THIS WHY --

>> THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO. >> AND WE NEED STAFF'S INPUT TO THE COMMITTEE AND MAYBE A CLERK, I DON'T KNOW TO GIVE A REPORT TO US ON WHAT IS HAPPENING EVEN IF IT GOES THROUGH THE STAFF THROUGH THE CLERK TO US THAT'S FINE.

AND YOU DON'T NEED TO ELABORATE.

I WANT TO HANDLE IT. WE SHOULD BE INFORMED AT SOME POINT IF WE HAVE REPEATTIVE BE -- REPETITIVE.

WE'LL ADDRESS IT. WHATEVER THE MEANS IS

NECESSARY. >> MR. MIM AS.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING FOR ANY BOARD OR COMMITTEE IF THERE ARE ANY BY-LAW INFRACTIONS BRING IT TO

YOU? >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. WRITTEN IN THE RESOLUTION WE

VOTED. >> WE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED.

, I DON'T EXPECT THE STAFF TO TAKE THE ACTION.

>> WHEN IT HAS BEEN AN AUTOMATIC REMOVAL IN THE RESOLUTION, IF THE CITY STAFF NOTIFIES ME THAT THEY HAVE MISSED MORE THAN THE ALLOWABLE MEETINGS I DO IT. IT DOES NOT COME TO YOU.

I SEND A LETTER THEY ARE REMOVED FOR ATTENDANCE.

THE APPOINTING MEMBER I NOTIFY YOU THAT YOUR MEMBER HAS BEEN

REMOVED. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT THAT WAY.

I'M TELL YOU HOW CAN YOU WORK WITH IT.

WE DON'T HAVE AN APPEAL OBVIOUSLY BUT LIKE MR. GUTIERREZ BEING IN SWEDEN FOR THREE MONTHS HE WOULD BE HERE.

IF WE WAS MY RAY POINT HE CAME BACK SAID I'M OFF BECAUSE I WAS GONE FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S FINE I WILL REAPPOINT YOU THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO YOU GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT AND IF YOU DON'T TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND MR. BUSHEA.

HE WAS THERE AND DYNAMIC IT IMPACTS HIS BUSINESS IN THE AREA. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO RECOVER FROM THE COVID ISSUE. IT IS UP TO US AS THE APPOINTING COMMISSIONER OR MAYOR IF WE SEE THAT TO BE SO.

REAPPOINT THEM. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE LET THE SYSTEM TAKE THEM OFF. I LIKE THAT.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT. IVE WAS NOT AS CLEAR.

>> BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION OR THE COMMISSIONER.

WHATEVER IT S I'M OKAY. THE AT LARGE HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION. RIGHT.

I'M OKAY. THE POINT IS THAT LET'S NOT GET TO NUMBER 7 BEFORE WE FIGURE THIS OUT.

>> BEFORE WE KNOW ABOUT IT. >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I THINK MY CONCERN, THOUGH IS. >> WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT SAY A NO APPEAL AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ALLOW FOR EXCUSES.

PART OF ME AS I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS I READ THIS I WAS CONCERNED. I THINK WE, AS THE COMMISSION, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND WE NEED TO ASK OF STAFF TO PROVIDE US SOME OF THIS. WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.

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THEY CAN VOTE ON THAT TO EXCUSE PEOPLE FROM THAT.

WE ALLOW THAT IN THE COMMISSION HERE WHEN WE EXCUSED COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. THAT'S THE CONCERN OF THE INCONSISTENCIES T IS DEEPER THAN THIS.

I'M OKAY MOVING HERE BUT SEE ALL OF THE COMMITTEES ON A EASY TO LOOK AT DOCUMENT SO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT IS WHAT WHEN IT COMES TO REMOVAL. WHAT THE ORDINANCES SAY THEY'RE IN CONFLICT. WE'RE DEALING WITH THINGS NOW THAT IS SETTING PRECEDENT OF REMOVAL OF PEOPLE.

I JUST WANT TO BE CONSISTENT NOTHING FORWARD.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. I THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW ALL THE COMMITTEES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CATCHING IT AND WE NEED

HELP MR. MIMMS AND MISS COX. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> I THINK I KNOW WHERE HE IS GOING, WE HAVE BEEN.

WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THIS WE ESTABLISHED THIS IN 2019 BY RESOLUTION. WE PUT THE ELEMENTS INTO THE RESOLUTION EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU SAYING.

SO WE SAID WE'LL CREATE SOMETHING NEW OR MODIFIED IT.

WE PUT THOSE IN THE COMMITTEES COULD NOT NEED TO WASTE THEIR TIME VOTING ON IT. THAT MEANS THREE CON CONSECUTIVE. TWO AT LARGE.

AND, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS THEY COME ABOUT OR CREATED NEW ONES. I HAD THE SAME REACTION WE HAVE THIS SET OF RULES, WE HAVE BEEN CHEWING ON IT.

THE COMMISSION HAS LOOKED AT THOSE BUT IT IS GOOD TO REFRESH AND TAKE A LOOK. LET'S TAKE A LOOK RIGHT NOW.

, LET'S LINE THAT UP AND WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT IS LEFT OUT THERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN I ASK PEOPLE TO BE A PART OF THE COMMITTEE WE CANNOT ASK PEOPLE TO BE A PART THEY DON'T KNOW THE EXPECTATIONS OF THEM AND IT PRESENTS THIS. WE WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANCES WHERE THINGS HAPPEN. I GET THAT.

THEY WILL RESIGN OFF STEP OFF. >> OR GO TO SWEDEN.

>> BUT I JUST -- VIZ THOSE CONVERSATIONS THE TIME ELEMENT AND THE EXPECTATIONS. I MEET WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON AND PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF INPUT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THE COMMITTEES ARE GETTING MORE SERIOUS AND SERIOUS AND THE NATURE OF STUFF THEY ARE DEALING WITH. THESE ARE MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ADVISEMENT ON.

THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUS NIECE OF THIS.

>> MR. MIMMS DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE?

>> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE SEVERAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT ARE APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSION.

NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE YOU SAYING.

SOME HAVE RESOLUTIONS THAT STATE CERTAIN STRUCTURE PROVISIONS.

SOME HAVE, YOU KNOW, VERY GENERIC RESOLUTIONS AND THE COMMITTEES SET FORTH THEIR OWN BY-LAWS.

I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE A GOOD IDEAD TO HAVE ONE RESOLUTION STRUCTURE THAT SETS FORTH THE STRUCTURE, THE ABSENCES HOW THEY ARE HANDLES BUT NOW WITH WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

IT IS, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BY-LAW INFRACTIONS AND RESOLUTION, IT IS WEIRD RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU ARE INSTRUCTING STAFF TO COME UP WITH A STRUCTURE THAT'S UNIVERSAL FOR ALL BOARDS. THE CLERK AND I CAN WORK ON

THAT. >> I HAVE A SUGGESTION.

>> I'M STILL HERE, I SAT ON BOARDS NOW FOR EIGHT OR NINE YEARS. I MISSED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW OVER THAT TIME LINE. HOWEVER I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON DELIBERATIONS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF BOARDS THAT HAVE MISSED A NUMBER OF MEETINGS, LET'S.

THE DYNAMIC HOW THEY MANAGE THE ABSENCES IS UNIQUE.

IN THAT THE PRESSURE ELEMENT OF IT AND IT IS PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.

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NON-EXCUSED. >> AND THE PLANNING BOARD HANDLES IT. AND I SUGGEST THERE IS A REQUIRED ALTERNATIVE. LETTING THE COMMITTEE OR THE BOARD DEAL WITH IT INTERNALLY AND WHEN IT IS THE THIRD NON-EXCUSED IT IS KICKED TO THE STAFF OR THE COMMISSION FOR REMOVAL. BUT KEEPING IN MIND THAT THEY HAD THE RULE. THEY ARE TRYING TO PRESS THEM.

AND DAVID BUSHEA ON PARKING COMMITTEE.

HE HAS BEEN SETTING UP HIS DISTRIBUTION FOR THIS PRODUCTS IN PUERTO RICO. HE GOT DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID AND MISSED MEETINGS. HE WAS TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP.

WE TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT IT. AND SITUATIONS LIKE THAT I LOOK FROM A BUSINESS PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE.

THAT'S A LEGITIMATE REASON DO I WANT TO REMOVE THE PERSON THAT HAS A LOT OF INFLUENCE WITH THE COMMITTEE AND INTELLIGENT BECAUSE THEY ARE EXECUTING ON THEIR BUSINESS.

, THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS THEY ARE NOT BEING PAID TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE BOARDS. THE RESPONSIBILITY IS ON THE BOARD. ONCE WE CAN'T IT IS NOT BURDENING THERE IS A THREE STRIKE WE'RE LOSING GREAT PEOPLE. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO AVOID. AND I HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN.

THERE COULD BE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE I WILL MISS MEETINGS.

WE WANT TO GIVE A HALL PASS. I HEARD STORIES THAT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND. PICKING GRAPES IN MY VINEYARD.

YOU GET THE GIST. >> MADAM TO RESPOND TO THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, YOU KNOW, AS I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT, I WANT TO TAKE THAT OFF OF THE STAFF.

I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT. IT IS A TOUGH SITUATION WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE AND WHERE THE TEMPERATURE IS ON THIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS THAT'S WHERE WE MAY HAVE NUANCES AND CHALLENGE OURSELVES HERE THAT WHAT THE PANDEMIC IS TEACHING US IS WE -- WILL WE ALLOW VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION OF THE COMMITTEES

AND BOARDS. >> THAT HAS COME UP FROM PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE. CAN I PARTICIPATE BY ZOOM.

>> THAT'S A STATUTE, LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS IS OPERATING THESE DAYS. I UNDERSTAND.

THAT MAY BE A CONSIDERATION. >> I'M NOT SURE THE GOVERNMENT

STATUTES ALLOW THAT. >> EXACTLY.

SO WHAT I HEAR IS WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION AND MAYBE GIVE US INFORMATION ON WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW ON ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMITTEES IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE. IS THAT WHAT I HEAR?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> DOES THAT SOUND GOOD WE'LL DO

THAT AT A CONFERENCE AGENDA. >> THERE WILL BE LOTS OF

DIFFERENT VARIATIONS. >> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE GOTTEN CONSISTENT LATELY ABOUT FORMING COMMITTEES AND HAVING EACH COMMISSIONER APPOINT THEIR OWN PERSON AND THEN SOMETIMES WE HAVE AT-LARGE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

, WE HAVEN'T STUDIED THE ABSENCES.

>> WHEN THEY ARE REPORTED. I DON'T --

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> YOU DON'T KNOW SO THE STAFF OF THAT COMMITTEE HAS TO HAVE SOME WAY OF ADVISING US OF WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS HAPPENING.

>> AND THE SYSTEM I CAN PULL A REPORT NOT A HOW THEY USE THE ACCEPTS MINUTES. KY NOT PULL THE REPORT.

>> I WOULD THINK, LIKE THE PARKING PROBLEM WHICH WE USED TO JOKE ABOUT, THIS IS A GOOD PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE -- AND SO NOW WE HAVE CREATED THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME DOWNTOWN AND A PARKING PROBLEM.

THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM IS THE SAME WAY.

WE HAVE GOOD VOLUNTEERS, GOOD COMMITTEES.

WE ADDED TO THE COMMITTEES AND NOW WE'RE AND THERE ARE COMPETITION. WE WANT TO APPRECIATE THE

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>> DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED FROM US?

>> I THINK I AM TAKING UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

>> -- THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS THE SUNRISE THEATER

[c. Sunrise Theatre Operational Plan]

OPERATIONAL PLAN. >> WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR0 TO FOLLOW UP FROM A PREVIOUS WORKSHOP WE HANDLE THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE A UPDATE. >> WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> IN MARCH WE HAD, I APPEARED BEFORE YOU WITH A MEETING AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT A REQUEST TO SEND OUT A, PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL FOR A MANAGEMENT OF THE SUNRISE THEATER FOR AN RFP AND SEEK CONSULTATION SERVICES TO ASSIST US IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE THEATER.

WE DID SEND OUT THE RFP AND THERE WERE NO RESPONSES.

AND WE DID RECEIVE A PROPOSAL. I DID RECEIVE A PROPOSAL FOR A CONSULTANT I PREPARED A PRESENTATION I WILL READ FOR

YOU. >> WHAT A YEAR.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW SEASON WITH GREAT ANTICIPATION WE CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THE STAGE ALIVE AND WELCOME THE AUDIENCES BACK TO THE TEETHER TO HAVE A GREAT TIME.

THE SUNRISE THEATER LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE ROLL AS THE ECONOMIC EDGE OF FORT PIERCE FOR ALL TO SEE AND ENJOY WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. THE LAST 18 MONTHS HAVE BEEN FILLED WITH UNCERTAINTIES WEEKS VERY FOUGHT THROUGH EVERY OBSTACLE. RESCHEDULING OF SHOWS, ACCOMMODATING PATRONS WITH REFUNDS CREDITS, AND WAYS TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE AND PURCHASING SUPPLIES FOR SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND IMPLEMENTING THE PROCEDURES AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE GAINED RECOGNITIONON AMONG DANCE STUDIES FROM OKEECHOBEE, STUART, FORT ST. LUCIE AND WHERE THEY CAN HOST RECITALS N THREE WEEKENDS, WE WERE ABLE TO HOST 13 SEPARATE PERFORMANCES WITH SOCIAL DISTANCED SEATING, MASK MANDATES AND OTHER COVID-19 PROTOCOLS IN PLACE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE STUDIOS WERE NEW TO THE THEATER.

EXPOSING THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS WHO MAY NOT HAVE COME TO DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE OTHERWISE AND AWE OF THEY'LL HAVE -- THEM HAVE BOOKED FOR THE NEXT SEASON RECITALS.

A FULL SEASON OF SHOWS WHICH SELF-PREPARATIONS COPRESENTATIONS AND RENTALS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THE 2021-22 SEASON AND MEMBERSHIPS CURRENTLY ON SALE.

AND NOT COMPLETE THE PROCESS CONTINUES AS IS NORMAL AND WITH ADDITIONAL PERFORMANCES TO BE ADDED.

HE RANGE FROM SINBAD TO TERRY FATOR AND COMEDY PET THEATER.

AND KENNY G. ROBERT KRAY.

MASTERS OF I ILLUSION. JUDY COLLINS AND THE GAT LIN BROTHERS YOU CANNING A CONSISTEDDENT ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT LIVE. YES OUR TRIBUTE ARTISTS.

EVERY PRESENTING VENUE HAS THEM.

WE WILL HAVE TRIBUTES TO THE MUSIC OF TINA TURNER.

GEORGE MICHAEL. BILLY JOEL.

WHITNEY HOUSTON. THE CARPENTERS AND OUR EVER POPULAR ONE NIGHT OF QUEEN TO NAME A FEW.

THIS IS OUR NEW THE LOGAN AND USE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IT IS OUR I LIGHT UP THE SUNRISE CAMPAIGN.

WE HOPE TO CONTINUE WITH THE SCHOOL TIME PERFORMANCES AND SINCE 2 2008 THEY HAVE BEEN A HIGHLIGHT.

THE PROPOSES ARE REGULARLY FILLED TO CAPACITY AND THEY ARE ON A WAIT RIS. IN COOPERATION WITH THE ST.

LUCIE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WE HOPE TO OFFER EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING.

THIS ALLOWS ANYWHERE FROM 8 TO 10,000 CHILDREN A YEAR COMING TO THE THEATER FOR THE MOST PART THE PERFORMANCES HAVE BEEN FREE OF CHARGE WITH SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION INCLUDED.

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WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THANK YOU LETTERS FROM THEM.

THEY GET TO PARTICIPATE ON STAGE.

IN ANTICIPATION OF SUMMER 2022 THE CAMPS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SCHEDULED AT THIS TIME. WE DO SERVICE ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 4 WEEK AS YEAR THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND THEY INVOLVE ABOUT 70 CHILDREN EACH. IN SUNRISE FOUNDATION PROVIDES FOR SOME OF THE CHILDREN TO ATTEND THE CAMP.

OUR STAFFING LEVEL IS A RETURN TO PRE-COVID TO OPERATE.

WE HAVE TWO FULL-TIME FORT PIERCE POSITIONS THAT ARE STAFFED. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER THE THIRD FULL TIME IS CONTRACTED HE IS A TECHNICAL DIRECTOR AND FACILITIES MANAGER. HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE OVERALL BUILDING AND SEEING THE MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL ITEMS THAT ARE NECESSARY. THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS. OUR CURRENT PART-TIME STAFF AND CONSISTS OF AN ASSISTANT POSITION WHICH IS NOW AT 25 HOURS. PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IT WAS A 15-HOUR A WEEK POSITION.

WE HAVE A FINANCE ASSISTANT AT A MAXIMUM OF 10 HOURS A WEEK.

SHE WORKS ABOUT 8. WE HAVE THREE BOX OFFICE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK A COMBINED 25 HOURS.

WE BRING IN CUSTODIAL AND MAINTENANCE AS NEEDED.

OUR POTENTIAL ORGANIZATIONAL CHART SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS FOR A REGULAR SEASON DURING THE OPERATIONS DURING A NORMAL TIME AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, TECHNICAL DIRECTOR, BOX OFFICE HOUSE MANAGER.

BOX OFFICE SUPERVISOR, EDUCATION COORDINATOR.

A DIRECTOR WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NEVER HAD WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS TYPE OF AN OPERATION AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT MOVED TO FULL TIME AND OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT.

>>> OUR STAFF SHOULD BE A FINANCE, FULL REPRESENTATION OF A BOX OFFICE CUSTOMER SERVICE VIDEO DESIGNER AND SOCIAL MEDIA SPECIALIST AND OUR CREW HEADS SOUND JEER, C CARPENTER, THOSE ARE TIP DEADLINE FOR EACH SHOW IN ADDITION TO WHARF STAGE HANDS ARE REQUIRED FOR PERFORANCES. AND CUSTODIANS.

I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT'S A SIGH THAT I HAD LAST WEEK THAT WE WERE APPROVED FOR THE SHUTTERED VENUE GRANT ON AUGUST.

I RECEIVED THE NOTICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $1.96 MILLION.

WE HAVE APPLIED AND ON JUNE 1, WE SENT IN THE APPLICATION FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS GRANT FOR $150,000. THIS MONTHS NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS OPENS AN APPLICATION FOR SHUTTERED VENUES, WE WILL BE SUBMITTING FOR A $150,000 AND AYE HAVE MET WITH MR. MIMMS, THE CITY MANAGER, TO DISCUSS THE UNDER FUNDS FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN THAT WILL ASSIST US IN THE RECOVERY EFFORTS WITH ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE HAD.

THE NEXT STEPS THE MANAGEMENT CONSULTING PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED IS FROM PROFESSIONAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT.

THEY ARE A WHOLLY OWNED FOR PROFIT SUBSIDIARY PERFORMING A ARTS CENTER TO A MANAGEMENT OF SMALL TO MEDIUM-SIZED FACILITIES AND GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE LOCATIONS.

ONE OF THE FIRST COMPANIES OF ITS KIND, PFM BUSINESS FOCUS IS FOCUSED ON WHAT WE NEED AND DO BEST.

GREAT SHOWS AND PERFORMING ARTS VENUES.

THE MISSION TO BRING A VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING TO THE BROADEST AUDIENCE AND MAINTAINING FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND SENSITIVETIVE TO LOCAL CONSTITUENCIES NEEDS HAS GUIDED TO PAST AND PROMISES FUTURE GROWTH.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH PFM IN 2019.

WE DID BRING THEM IN AND THEY PROVIDED US WITH THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT WITH THE THEATER, YOU HAVE SEEN THAT ASSESSMENT.

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>> WHAT THEY THE PROPOSAL IS AN A-Z REVIEW OF OPERATIONS.

PFM WILL LOOK AT THE OPERATION, STAFF SIZE AND STRUCTURE, MARKETING, SPONSORSHIPS AND FUNDRAISING.

TICKETING, CONCESSIONS AND PROGRAMMING.

KNOW WILL USE THE PAST ASSESSMENT AND A REPORT WILL BE REVISITED FOR APPLICATIONS TO CURRENT CONDITIONS AND RENEWED GOALS. THIS REVIEW WILL BE EXPANDED TO ASSIST WITH OUR FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED. WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE WE MEET WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT IRSC AND FORMULATING A FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THAT WAS IN JUNE. WE JUST GOT OUR MINUTES AND THE -- EVERYTHING BACK FROM THAT MEETING.

WE'LL HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD AT THE MEETING TO DISCUSS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

THEY WILL ASSIST WITH KEY MARKET RESEARCH.

PFM WILL HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH PAST GUESTS, CLIENTS AND OTHER INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKE HOLDERS TO IDENTIFY CURRENT PERCEPTIONS OF THE SUNRISE TEETHER TO TARGET AREAS FOR NEW RESOURCES AND OR REVISED STRATEGIES AND IN ADDITION PAST SURVEYS WILL BE ANALYZED AND NEW SURVEYS TO GUIDE RESOURCES AND OR REVISE STRATEGIES. NATIONAL NETWORKING PROVIDE ACCESS TO A NATIONAL NETWORK OF LIVE AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUE PROFESSIONALS AND TALENT BUYING TICKETING, MARKETING, PRODUCTION AND VENUE OPERATIONINGS. , THEY WILL EVALUATE THE STRUCTURE. MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FUTURE AND ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING AND INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR FUTURE OPEN POSITIONS. TALENT BUYING FOR THE SHOWS.

AND THE EYE UNIQUE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE AGENCIES PFM WILL IDENTIFY ARTISTS AND OFFER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE EVENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND SUNRISE'S 1200 SEATS.

THE TALENT BUYING SERVICES WILL INCLUDE ACCESS TO OZ, THE PROPRIETARY DATABASE THAT HAS TRACKED THOUSANDS OF EVENTS NATIONWIDE OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS.

AND EMPHASIS DEVOTED TO IDENTIFYING ARTISTS AND THAT CAN EXPAND THE VARIETYIVE PRESENTATIONS AND DIVERSITY OF AUDIENCES. FINANCIAL RETRUERING THIS IS -- RESTRUCTURING THIS IS IMPORTANT AS THE DIRECTOR TO HELP US THROUGH THE SEASON THROUGH BUDGETING PROCESS AND FIND OUT AND REALLY DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE AS AN ORGANIZATION THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE IS NOT REALLY CONCLUSIVE TO PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND TRYING TO OVERLAP THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING AND VENUE ACCOUNTING T IS DIFFERENT.

SO. WHAT I HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO IS HELP US TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET AND LINE ITEMS THAT CORRESPOND WITH WHAT WE DO AS A VENUE AND WILL FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES FOR GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING, WILL KIND OF MEET IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE. RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T.

PFM MILL REVIEW THE REPORTING AND SUGGEST TO BRING THE BUDGETING, EXPENSE AND STATEMENTS CLOSER TO STANDARDS USED AMONG LIVE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES.

MEASURE FOR SUCCESS. DRAWING FROM THROUGHOUT THE AMERICA OF VENUES THEY WILL SET MEASURABLE BENCH MARKS AND SUCCESS TO THOSE BENCH MARKS. AND SENIOR STAFF WILL VISIT FORT PIERCE MONTHLY TO SEE AND HEAR FIRSTHAND FROM THE SUNRISE STAFF AND REVIEW AND OBSERVE THE EVENTS AND ACTION.

COACHING TO WIN THEY WILL PROVIDE ONGOING COACHING WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND PEER NETWORKING AMONG THE STAFF IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. THE TICKETING SOFTWARE, WE ARE ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS WITH THE CONTRACT EXPIRED WE HAVE BEEN GOING MONTH TO MONTH. AND OPTIONS INCREASE THE REVENUES AND ASSIST IN THE NEGOTIATING A NEW TICKET AGREEMENT. AND MATCHMIZING EVERY

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THEY WILL ASSIST AND DETERMINING THE BEST BALANCE OF VARIETY AND PRICING PRODUCT COST AND SPEED OF SERVICE TO MAXIMIZE FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND THE BOTTOM LINE. AND SHUTTERED VENUE.

THEY WILL CONDUCT A NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO IDENTIFY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF FEDERAL OR STATE RECOVERY FUNDS.

MANAGING VIRUS SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND RESPONSE PLANS.

PFM CLEANING AND DISINFECTING BEST PRACTICES AMENDED OPERATION AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROTOCOLS WILL BE SHARED FOR APPLICATION AS THE THEATER EMERGES FROM THE PANDEMIC.

EXCEPTIONAL GUEST SERVICE A GREAT VENUES SECRET WEAPON.

AND NEXT TO THE EVENTS ON STAGE THE MEMORABLE PART OF A NIGHT AT THE THEATER IS THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FROM THE MILES AND GREET TO QUALITY AND SELECTION OF THE BEER AND WINE FOR SALE DELIVERING EXCEPTIONAL GUEST EXPERIENCES IS AN AREA THEY SPECIALIZES IN AND WITH THE SECRET SHOPPERS AND SURB VAYS THE SUNRISE THEATER WILL HAVE A APPRECIATE SET OF EYES AND EARS OF RECOGNIZING GREAT STUFF PERFORMANCE AND TRAINING AND FINE TUNE THE PROCEDURES. I DO WANT TO SAY I BELIEVE THE SUNRISE THEATER OFFERS WHEN THEY COME IN AN EXCEPTIONAL EXPERIENCE. I THINK THAT WE HAVE GROAN A GREAT DEAL PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC AND SINCE THEN THAT IS ALWAYS BEEN A FOCUS OF OURS AND MINE AND IS TO PROVIDE EACH INDIVIDUAL A QUALITY AND JUST AN EXCEPTIONAL GREAT NIGHT OUT.

MODERN MARKET FOR MAXIMIZING. MARKETING THE EVENTS HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS AND THE CHANGES ARE CONTINUING AT AN EVER FASTER PACE. MORE THAN EVER WEB SITES DIGITAL ADVERTISING AND PRESENCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ARE ESSENTIAL TO MAXIMIZING THE TICKET SALES. PFM WILL AUDIT THE CAMPAIGNS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE SUNRISE EVENTS ARE REACHING THE RIGHT YOU A ANSWERS WITH THE MESSAGE AND ALLATIVE THE RIGHT PLACES. A SPECIFIC ANALYSIS WILL BE CONDUCTED TO ASSET THE MARKETING AND ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND STAFF SIZE. WE HAVE REALLY CONCENTRATED ON OUR MARKETING EFFORTS, WE HAVE GONE A LOT TO DIGITAL ADVISING, LESS IN PRINT AND RADIO BUT THE PRINT AND RADIO ADVERTISING ARE IMPORTANT IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC BUT WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASED PRESENCE IN THE DIGITAL MARKETING AND EXPERIENCED GREATER SALES SUNRISE THEATER FOUNDATION COPE MISSION WILL REVIEW ND PROVIDE STRUCTURES AND GOALS AND DRAWING ON MOTELS AND ACROSS THE US. IT WILL PROVIDE AND THE GRANT SOURCING AND OTHER FUNDRAISING STRATEGIES.

THIS ELEMENT TK-RBG - THIS IS A KEY LIMIT FOR THE SUNRISE THEATER. THE DEALERSHIP THAT PFM CAN PROVIDE TO THE FOUNDATION ALONG WITH MYSELF TO GET THEM TOO A PLACE WHERE THEY ARE SEEING A BIGGER PICTURE AND BRING US MORE FORWARD AND -- I WILL MEET WITH THEM I HAVE GOALS THAT I WILL SET FOR THEM. AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY ATTAINABLE. THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN A RESTRUCTURING PROCESS, WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING THE WAY WE ARE IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE IS EVERY OPPORTUNITY THE FOUNDATION CAN GROW AND BECOME SUCCESSFUL AND BECOME A GREAT FINANCIAL RESOURCE FOR US.

THE FOUNDATION IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ADVISORY.

>> IT IS. >> THEY ARE THE --

>> PFM IS SETTING GOALS SO YOU'RE DOING IT AHEAD OF THAT?

>> I'M AND MEETING WITH THEM THIS MONTH AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKINGS ABOUT ABOUT WHERE IT GOES FROM HERE AND SO, THEY -- THEY'RE ASKING ME FOR RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH I HAVE QUITE A FEW IN MIND. I THINK THE EXPERIENCE WITH PFM

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AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE HOUSE OF FLOWERS WHICH IS UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP.

IT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 85 YEARS.

AND THAT THE THEATER PUT ON RECITALS FOR STUDIOS.

I SOLD OUT OF A LOT OF FLOWERS. IT BRINGS BUSINESS AND RECOGNITION FOR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN T IS A STAPLE IN DOWNTOWN, RESTAURANTS ARE FULL ON THE NIGHT SHIFT SHOWS AND THIS IS INSTRUMENTAL AS BUSINESS OWNERS THANK YOU FOR BEING A BACKBONE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AND SHOWING SUPPORT.

THE SUNRISE THEATER IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY WOULD HAVE NEVER VISITED FORT PIERCE COME FOR THE SHOWS AND THEY ARE FANS OF THE DOWNTOWN AND COME AGAIN FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND SHOPPING OFFERED. THE NEW LOUNGE AFTER MOVING TO THE CITY BACK IN 2010 THE THEATER HAS BEEN A HISTORIC STAPLE IN THE TOWN. THE HISTORY STORY AND THE CHARACTER I IT ADDS IS NEXT TO NONE.

SO MANY PEOPLE OWE THEIR PRE-COVID SUCCESS TO THE THEATER WE NEED TO FIGHT TO HELP KEEP IT OPEN.

FROM CHERYL AT SALON BANGS. >> IT IS A DESTINATION PLACE TO VISIT. WHEN WE GET A NICE HOTEL IN THE DOWNTOWN THAT WILL HELP US HOST OUR STARS THAT PERFORM HIRE.

MAYBE THE NEWS ABOUT THE CHARMING BUT HIP DOWNTOWN WILL SPREAD. WE SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP ON SUPPORTING CULTURE IN THE CITY. THEN WE PULLED SEVERAL GOOGLE REVIEWS SOME OF THEM RECENT. ONE FROM THREE MONTHS AGO WITH OUR SOCIALLY DISTANCED SEATING IT WAS ORGANIZED.

SEATING WAS ARRANGED SIX FEET APART.

STAFF WORE MASKS AND AUDIENCE. IT WAS CLEAN.

THERE IS A PARKING NEARBY THE COMEDY SHOW WAS AWESOME.

I'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE BAND PURE ZEPPLIN WAS GREAT.

THEY ROCKED THE HOUSE FOR WHAT WAS ALLOWED IN.

>> THE USHERS WERE GREAT THEY HAD MASKS AND DAVE HAD A FEW LADIES HELP AND IN WITH WHEELCHAIRS.

GREAT PLACE. >>> I THINK WE RECEIVE MOST OF OUR GOOGLE REVIEWS. WE HAVE OF COURSE EVERYONE HAS SOME THAT ARE NOT GREAT BUT IF WERE YOU TO SEARCH OUR REVIEWS.

WE HAVE TWAOEFRPB BETWEEN A 4 AND FIVE STAR.

WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. FROM OUR SUNRISE VOLUNTEERS TO OUR VERY CAPABLE STAFF AND OUR STAGE HANDS THAT GO OUT OF THEIR WAY FOR OUR RENTALS THAT COME IN. AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB, WE RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLEMENTS AND OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE RENTALS THAT ARE NOW COMING IN THAT ARE GETTING GOTTEN PREVIOUSLY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NOT FOCUSED ON. THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

WHILE' TAKE QUESTIONS, CONCERNS OR COMMENTS.

, WE APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND THE SHUTTERED GRANT OPPORTUNITY. AND THE EARLY CONSIDERATIONS YOU Y WALKED US THROUGH TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE IN THE OPERATIONS AND OPENNESS OF YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO TAKE ON COACHING AND ADVISEMENT.

HOW DOES THAT, ARE WE AT THE POINT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THAT MOOKS LIKE FROM A FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY?

WHAT IS THAT? >> WELL IN THE PROPOSAL, THEY

ARE. >> IT WAS 1$0000 A MONTH THAT CAN BE PAID FOR THROUGH THE SHUTTERED GRANT MONEY OR PAID FOR WITH AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS.

THE PFM HAS A LONG STANDING DATING BACK TO THE 1980S WHEN THEY INCORPORATED AND THEY -- THEY MANAGED MANY VENUES

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THEY UNDERSTAND HOW THE VENUE WORK.

I GET THAT FROM THE YOU RIGHT NOW OF THIS $120,000 BUDGET.

WHERE HAVE YOU ACCOUNTED FOR THAT IS IT OUT OF THAT MILLION AND YOU CAME IN WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIFT.

WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET THIS HUGE THING OFF THE GROUND. RIGHT.

YOU KNOW THAT MILLION I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE AN ACCOUNTING OF WHERE THAT IS. WE HAD THINGS IN APPEARS WE NEEDED TO CATCH UP WITH. I'M WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM IN THE 120,000 IN THE MILLION AND THEN OF THE OPERATION THAT'S BEING COVERED. WHAT IS LIFT OF THAT? I GUESS WHERE DO WE GET THAT FROM AT SOME POINT?

>> WE CAN USE THE ENTIRE 1 $120,000 FROM THE SHUTTERED VENUES GRANT. THAT WOULD BE MONEY THAT'S WELL

SPENT SO I'M NOT -- >> MAYBE DO WE HAVE A UPDATE FROM FINANCE. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THAT MAYBE THAT'S WHERE I'M ANTICIPATING.

>> WE HAVE NOT DERIVED A BUDGET BASED ON THE RECEIVABLES OF THE SHUTTERED OPERATORS GRANT. WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THE ONLY MECHANISM FOR TO US GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH PFM THROUGH THE THAT WOULD BE THE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR PFM. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE OTHER, YOU KNOW ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING.

AND THEY WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS.

>> THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR. >> WE HAVE A REPORT, THOUGH, IS THAT THE WHEN WE COME IN FROM MISS MORRIS IS THAT THE MEETING. THE YELLOW BLOCK; YOU GET A

UPDATE. >>> I'M TRYING TO PUT IT

TOGETHER. >> OKAY.

>> SO, DOES PFM HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH A THEATER THAT

IS OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT? >> THEY DO.

IN FLORIDA THE CORAL SPRINGS CENTER FOR THE ARTS IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND THEY HAVE MANAGED THAT BUILDING SINCE, I BELIEVE.

1995. >> THEY MANAGE THE BUILDING AND

THE OPERATIONS? >> CORRECT.

>> BECAUSE I THINK THAT -- THAT GOING BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT FINANCE, I THINK THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFICULTY WITH A GOVERNMENT OWNING A THEATER. IS BECAUSE IT'S TOO DIFFERENT KINDS OF SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES YOU NEED.

AND WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT. AT ONE POINT.

WE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO KEEP THE THEATER OPEN BUT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT OTHER MOTELS RATHER THAN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND WHERE IS THAT, ARE PFM LOOKING AT THAT?

>> ARE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD YES.

>> IT IS THE OTHER MODEL AND BRINGING IN THE CONSULTANT TO ADD TO THE MOMENT EXPERIENCE AND RESOURCES THAT THE TEAM WITH HER THE OTHER HEAVILY OF THE TEAM IS SITTING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND THEY BRING TO THE, THAT'S THE APPROACH.

WE HAVE NOT HAD THESE SERVICES SINCE THE THEATER STARTED.

, >> THEY HAVE TO NOSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, MAYBE WE, ARE HIRING THEM PERMANENTLY WHICH WOULD BE BEYOND THE YEAR THE 120,000.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDS AND REVENUES COMING IN OR SOME WAY OF SUPPORTING THAT EFFORT, RIGHT?

>> MOVING FORWARD. WE WOULD HAVE TO.

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>> THIS AS A COMMISSION WHAT MY MEMORY YEAR WE'RE COMMITTED TO

$450,000 FROM THE. >> I BELIEVE THE FPRA BUDGET WHICH WE'RE FAIRLY COMFORTABLE BUT -- I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF I'M NOT COMFORTABLE BEYOND. THAT THAT'S I'M SPEAKING FOR

MYSELF. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> IN THE PRESENTATION WITH THE PFM I GET THE FEELING THERE IS AN ECONOMY OF SCALE THERE THEY DO THIS FOR SO MANY WE WILL BE EMBELLISHED BY MAYBE BIGGER SHOWS, BIGGER VENUE TYPE MAYBE 2, 3 DAYS OF SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INFLUX OF REVENUES POSSIBLY. AND MY FEEL SOMETHING THAT $120 MILLION A YEAR WILL BE OFF SET BY INCREASES -- $120,000 A YEAR WILL BE SET OFF BETTER TICKETING, TRACKING WHAT IS GOING ON. A BETTER REVIEW ON THE THEATER AND THE NEEDS. HOW WE ACCOMPLISH CERTAIN THINGS. SO, REALLY IS THIS A COST OR WILL THE COSTS, SAFE TO SAY THE COSTS WILL BE REALIZED IN BESTS AS WE GO THROUGH WHAT WILL BE REFLECTED.

>> MOVING FORWARD THAT'S THE CASE.

KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE TWO FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

IT WILL BE INTENTION TO HIRE THE EMPLOYEES WHERE WE LIVE, YOU KNOW, THE PERFORMING ARTS REN VIEWS ARE NOT NECESSARILY.

AND IT IS SPECIFIC. SO, THE JOBS ARE SPECIFIC AND SO IF ONE -- YOU HIRE SOMEONE COMING IN THAT'S DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING IN A PERFORMING ARTS VENUE.

THERE IS A LOT OF TRAINING THAT GOES INTO THAT.

AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS THAT AND ASSIST WITH BRINGING THOSE PEOPLE ON BECAUSE FRANKLY, I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES HERE AT THE THEATER TO BRING THEM ON AND TRAIN THEM ONE ON ONE. AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON A DAILY BASIS. SO I WILL LOOK TO THEM TO HELP ME RECRUIT HIGHER AND TRAIN STAFF THAT IS CAPABLE OF DOING THE DAILY JOBS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE DONE.

THE MANAGEMENT JOBS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE DONE AND ASSISTING WITH HELPING TO HIRE A DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND, YES A DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IS THERE TO WRITE GRANTS AND GO OUT AND BUILD IN THE COMMUNITY AND THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO DO THAT BUT TO PUT THAT FORWARD IT NEEDS THE EXPERIENCE OF A COMPANY THAT CAN COME IN AND -- AND TALK ABOUT IT AND GIVE THEM

SOME YOU A PATH TO GO DOWN. >> ARE YOU ABLE TO CAPTURE WITH PFM A SET OF DELIVERABLES THAT CAN BE REVIEWED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO SHOW THE VALUE THAT THEY PROVIDE? THAT WOULD, WE ALL WANT TO SEE THAT.

AND WHERE WE'RE NUMBERS PEOPLE HERE.

YOU CAN SET. SAY THIS IS WHERE YOUR ACTIVES ARE AND THEN TRACK THOSE THROUGH THE YEAR AND SAY HERE IS WHERE WE WERE. HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED THROUGH THE EFFORTS. AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY THEY NEED TO BE SUSTAINED AS A MANAGEMENT RESOURCE FOR THE

THEATER. >> COMMISSIONER THEY ARE ALL ABOUT SETTING GOALS AND SHOWING THEIR DELIVERABLES.

THAT'S PART OF IN THE PRESENTATION THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING THEY WILL GET THE GOALS.

PROVIDE AND WHERE THEY HAVE HIT THE GOALS AND NEED TO GO BEYOND THOSE GOALS. I THINK THAT ALSO WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND PUTTING TOGETHER THAT PLAN, I THINK THAT THE ASSISTANCE IN THAT AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS INVALUABLE AT THIS POINT. I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT WITH THE THEATER WHERE WE HAVE A WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY COMING OUT OF COVID TO BE BIGGER AND BETTER AND SET OUT WHAT WE WANT TO BE.

WE HAD THE LUXURY OF 18 MONTHS OF A BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT OUR ORGANIZATION AND SEE THE POSSIBILITY.

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I THINK THAT WE, CAN I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM AND THEN SET A DATE WE HAVE THE MODEL.

WE HAVE OUR STRUCTURE IN PLACE AND THE CAPITAL NEEDS AND WE

HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS THEM. >> MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE GRANT.

WE WERE ALL ANTICIPATING AND HOPING ALONG THE WAY.

I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. HOW ARE WE IN A RELATIONSHIP OR BE IN A RELATIONSHIP FROM A PROCUREMENT FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW. AND THAT WILL BE $120,000.

IS THERE AN ISSUE? >> IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

I'LL WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

I WILL GET YOU AN ANSWER IF YOU LIKE.

>> I DON'T WANT HAVE TO CHANGE COURSE MIDSTREAM AND WE FOLLOW

THE RULES THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> AND YES, YOU MENTIONED A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I SEE HERE.

I WAS HOPING WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IN THE RFP.

THERE WERE SLIDES THAT FEEL LIKE WITH THE PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SOMEONE WILL CARRY THAT LOAD.

WE'LL CONTRACT WITH AND YOU WILL HAVE TO CARRY THAT LOAD AND GIVE GIVING EXERCISE IN THE FIELD AND THE MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE.

WHAT WORRIES ME, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTIONS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

I KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IT AND I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO OPERATE THE FACILITY AND YOU MENTIONED, I THINK EIGHT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES INCLUDING YOURSELF. YOU TALKED ABOUT STAFF.

AND I COMMENTED AT THE YESTERDAY THERE WERE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES OPERATING THAT OPERATION JUST YESTERDAY AT 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON TO MAKE THAT GO FORWARD.

I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU PUT THAT SLIDE ON THE TABLE THAT YOU KNOW ON THE SCREEN THAT SAYS WE NEED 8 OR 10 IN ADDITION TO THE 8 FULL-TIME FOR SUPPORT STAFF. YOU KNOW AUDIO AND TECHNICAL AND LIGHTING ALL THOSE. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WORRY ME. WE CAN COVER THAT ADD GET MORE TICKET SALES AND COVER THAT OVER TIME.

I WORE ABOUT THE OTHERS THAT'S WHAT WORRIES ME.

THAT BEING SAID IT'S NOT A DISCOURAGING POINT OF VIEW SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. >> I KNOW YOU DO.

>> WHERE DO WE ADVERTISE THE RFP HOW FAR DID WE REACH OUT WHEN WE

PUTIS THIS OUT? >> , WE REACHED OUT TO OUR REGIONAL NETWORK AND THERE WAS A GROUP AND SHARON WILL HAVE TO CORRECT ME THE AMERICAN PRESENTERS ASSOCIATION OR THE

ASSOCIATION OF PRESENTERS. >> THE ASSOCIATION OF

PRESENTERS. >> THAT IS THE GROUP THAT SHARON DEBRIS RATES WITH. AND YOU AND YOUR PREDECESSOR WENT TO A SEMINAR AND CONFERENCE IN NEW YORK CITY TO MEET WITH ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE GET THE WORD OUT.

>> OKAY; THERE ARE PEOPLE I PASSED THAT ON TO MR. MIMMS, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE RFP. HE IS REQUESTING A DISCUSSION WITH HIM AT SOME LEVEL. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ABLE TO SPREAD OUR WINGS AND GET THE MESSAGE OUT LOOKING FOR A PARTNER, RATHER UNSUCCESSFULLY, RIGHT.

DID YOU HAVE ANY CALLS ABOUT THAT? YOU CAN SEER I HAD ONE CALL AN E-MAIL I RESPONDED TO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT REQUESTED INFORMATION AND

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>> YOU THINK IT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE IF THEY'RE NOT BUSY.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. THERE IS NO FUNDING THERE.

>> SO. SOMETHING TRIGGERED AND GOING DOWN THE LINE WITH THE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BROUGHT UP.

THAT THE GOVERNMENT CITY STAFF THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A COMPANY TO COME IN AND DO THIS THAT DID THIS.

RIGHT. MEASURE HAVE A HYBRID APPROACH -- WE HAVE A HYBRID APPROACH.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO STOP THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIND A COMPANY COMMISSIONERS AND TO RUN THIS BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS MORE HEIGHTENED AS A RESULT OF STAFF HIRING.

WHERE IS THE STAFF HIRING S THAT A CITY EMPLOYEE? IF WE BRING THAT, THAT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE TO COVER IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT. THAT'S A CONCERN.

AS WE LOOK TO GET THIS ENTERPRISE, WE'RE BACK IN THE MISSION THAT YOU MENTIONED. WE HAVE A UP TO 450 BUT GET THE 450 DOWN TO 375 OR 300 OR 250, RIGHT.

AND SO, THIS IS CONCERNING IN WHAT I SEE HERE IS A, LET'S LOOK AT A MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO HELP US BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF UNKING THE THEATER. IT IS A CONCERN WE ARE TRYING TO RUN A THEATER AND YOU KNOW I'M HOPING AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FUNCTION OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE SOMETHING THERE.

IT IS JUST A CONCERN OF MINE. I WILT HAVE A CONCERNMENT I'M HOPE FOR DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION BUT I'M, YOU KNOW.

VERY CONSCIOUS AWARE OF THIS AND MAKING SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT.

WE OWED IT TO GET THIS RIGHT. AND IT'S A GREAT START.

IT WILL CARRY US AND MAYBE WE WILL NOT HAVE TO PUT IN AS MUCH, THAT'S A GREAT START. LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS

RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER.

>>> I'M SORRY. >> I WANT TO SAY YOU MAY NOT KNOW MY BACKGROUND BUT I DO WANT TO SAY I AM A, THIS IS MY PROFESSION. SO I HAVE DONE THIS.

THIS IS AL ALL I HAVE EVER DONE SINCE 1988.

I HAVE STARTED AT THE BOTTOM AND HERE I AM, SO I DON'T WANT TO YOU THINK SAYING THAT I AM WAS A CITIZEN AND APPLIED FOR A JOB AND GOT THIS THROUGH THAT. I AM A PROFESSIONAL I HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR 30 PLUS YEARS.

I WANT TO SAY THAT. I DO WANT TO SAY WITH RESPECT TO THE OTHER FULL-TIME STAFF HERE THE TECHNICAL DIRECTOR IS A PROFESSIONAL AND HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER.

AND KNOWS THE TECHNICAL PART OF PUTTING ON A SHOW BACKWARDS AND FORWARD. OUR MARKETING DIRECTOR WORKED WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MOST OF HER CAREER FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND CAME OVER TO US SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

I WANT TO SAY THAT OUR CURRENT STAFF IS PROFESSIONAL FINDING THE OTHERS IS WHAT I WAS SPEAKING OF.

>> I'M REACTING TO THE PAST FINANCIALS SO THERE IS A TRACK RECORD OF PERFORMANCE OF THE THINGER.

SOMEONE HAS TO OWN THAT. WE HAVE TO GET A THAT RIGHT THE ALLOCATIONS FROM ENTERPRISE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THIS CANNOT GO THE WAY THEY ARE GOING, I AGREE; THANK YOU.

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>> WHEN YOU TALK THAT WAY EVEN A THIRD PARTY COMING IN THERE WILL CHANGE THE ENTIRE PROGRAMMING, CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING, COMMUNITY THEATER, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THEY MAY BE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK IT IS ABOUT MAKING MONEY.

WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE WHAT ARE YOU GETTING FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP TO REDUCE THE OBLIGATION.

THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATION TO THE CITY WE'RE GOING TO.

I'M GUESSING. WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THE BENEFIT THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE IN.

I LEARNED THIS FROM BEING A MEMBER ON THE ADVISORY BOARD AND PUTTING THE MANAGE THE SUNRISE THEATER AND THE CITY HAS REDUCED THE OBLIGATION. FINANCIAL OBLIGATION AND THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BECOME PROFITABLE IN SOME FORM, ALL THOSE ANCILLARY FEEL-FOOD CITY COMMUNITY STUFF IS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK. IT IS ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE MONEY. BIGGER ON THIS TO TAKE THAT FOUNDATION WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN, I THINK FOR CHILDREN PROGRAMMING AND TRANSPORTATION, IT NEEDS TO GROW INTO AN ENTITY.

I KNOW OUR ADVISORY BOARD MENTIONED IF THAT'S NOT DOING THAT. THAT'S ALL IT IS GOING TO DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO GET IN HERE AND STARTS TALKING TO THE RESTAURANT OWNERS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS TO BE THAT STRUCTURE THAT IS IMPORTANT.

YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT PATH REWILL REDUCE THE O OBLIGATION OF THE CITY TO PAY MORE AND MORE MONEY AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> A. >> A TRUE FOUNDATION DOES NOT LIMIT ITSELF TO WHAT THE FOUNDATION HAS LIMITED ITSELF IN

MY ESTIMATION. >> AGREE.

SO A TRUE FOUNDATION IS BROADER AND GOES INTO COMMUNITY BUILDS SUPPORT. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WHEN GOVERNMENT IS UNDERWRITING IT, PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO SAY I'M PAYING THIS WITH MY TAX DOLLARS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD STORY AND I -- I -- WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO KEEP THIS THEATER GOING AND IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE SUCCESS OF DOWNTOWN.

IT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR PARKING PROBLEM BECAUSE IT BROUGHT PEOPLE DOWNTOWN FROM ALL OVER FROM OTHER PLACES.

HOW WE KEEP IT OPEN IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

WE KNOW THE BUSINESSES WANT THAT THEATER TO BE VITAL.

WHAT I AGREE WE MAKE THE COMMITMENT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR IN THE PAST WE HAVE NOT KEPT TO THAT.

WE HAVE GONE A MILLION OVER. AND MY COMMIT THAT'S WHAT IT IS. WE'RE NOT SAYING IT IS VITAL WE HAVE TO DO THIS. THIS IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

IT IS YES WE'RE GOING TO STAY THERE IT SCARES ME THEY OPERATE ALL OVER WHEN THE THEY DID NOT WANT TO TAKE OVER.

NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM.

, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS PLAN AND WAY TO MAKE IT

A SUCCESS. >> MR. MIMMS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SEEN THE PRESENTATION YOU HAVE SEEN A FORECASTED OUTLOOK FOR THE OPERATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS STAFF. WHETHER THAT IS FULL-TIME STAFF OR SUPPORT STAFF. THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE WILL NOT

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WE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS, YOU WILL NOT EITHER.

>> YES, SHARON AND WE MEET REGULARLY AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SINCE SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED WITH THIS MESS.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND THE THEATER HAS BEEN HIT THE HARDEST. LAYOFFS, RESOURCE REDUCTION.

IF THE FUNDING ALLOWS FOR THIS PERSONNEL WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.

IF IT DOES NOT, WE SHALL NOT. >> I DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON THE STAFFING. WE KNOW THE VALUE OF WHAT IT DOES FOR DOWNTOWN AND DONE FOR THE CITY.

WE COMMITTED TO KEEPING IT OPEN.

IT'S THE HOW. >> AND SO I HAVE TO COMMENT ON THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT IT IS THE HOW.

COMMISSIONER PERONA, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS, I KNOW WHOEVER RUNS THE THEATER, THIS IS STILL THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WE CAN ASK THOSE THINGS NOT BE TAKEN OFF.

I DON'T THINK A COMPANY WANTS TO STOP CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING AND THINGS LINING THAT. BUT YET, THAT'S STILL A COST OF OPERATION. THE COST TO OPERATE THAT.

AND THAT'S ME DOING MY PART. I UNDERSTAND THE ARTS.

I GREW UP WITH THE ARTS. I'M HAPPY TO SEE IN THE PROPOSAL PFM ALL THE EXPERIENCES THEY BRING AND DIFFERENT GROUPS I HAVE SEEN THINGS COME OUT THAT BRINGING ACTS IN.

WE NEED THAT TO SUSTAIN THIS. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS CONVERSATION IS HAD. WE HAVE TO HAVE IT.

, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WHERE WE GOING.

AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DECISION. THEY ARE TOUGH AND HARD

DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. >> YOU'RE RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK BACK TO MY YOUNGER DAYS, I AGREE IT PLAYED A IMPORTANT PART AND WILL CONTINUE BUT MY YOUNGER DAYS TELL ME DIFFERENTLY. THERE ARE COMPETING INTERESTS FOR VENUES. BUILDING A SCHOOL RIGHT NOW GUESS WHAT THE NUMBER ONE FOCUS IS SAFETY, SECURITY, NUMBER TWO, COMMUNITY ACCESS THAT HAS A STAGE AND PERFORMING AREA.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AT THE SCHOOL THEY'RE SPENDING MILLIONS TO BUILD IT AT SCHOOL. MY YOUNGER DAYS THE FIRST PERFORMANCE WAS AT LINCOLN PARK GYM AND THE SECOND WAS AT THE OLD AMPHITHEATER ON THE WATER THAT WAS TORN DOWN.

IT I WAS NOT AT THE SUNRISEMENT THAT'S NOT WHERE MY PATH COULD HAVE LED ME OR NEW YOUNGSTERS WILL BE LED.

THEY WILL COME TO THE SUNRISE HOPEFULLY.

I WANT TO TAKE ALL OF THOSE INSTANCES AND THE STORIES INTO ACCOUNT AND LOOK AT IT FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE AND IF IT IS AN RFP AND FOR PROFIT BUSINESS A WAY FOR US TO PARTNER WITH THE GROUPS. BUILD THE FOUNDATION.

TAKE THE $450,000 THAT WE ARE CONTRIBUTING, REDUCE THAT NUMBER AND SPEND IT ELSEWHERE SO WE CAN PARTNER IN A DIFFERENT WAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I MEAN IT IS A BIG STORY AND CONVERSATION. I DON'T WANT TO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON IT, CONTINUE TO INVEST WHICH WE'RE DOING BUT NOT GO INTO NEGATIVES. LAST YEAR I KNOW IT WAS TOUGH TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO MAKE THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT OR THIS YEAR THE EXTRA $500,000 OR 400,000 SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THE 450. SO, THOSE ARE THE TOUGH PARTS AND PIECES OF THE CONVERSATION BUT I'M EXCITED THAT WE HAVE A LIGHT UP THE SUNRISE PERFORMING AGENDA, PERFORMANCE AGENDA AND NICE TO SEE THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S ANOTHER I MEANT TO THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO SUPPORT THE THEATER BECAUSE IT IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR DOWNTOWN, WE KNOW THAT.

WE WANT TO -- WE SHOULD BE A PART OF CHEER LEADING FOR IT.

[02:30:04]

THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE

SUNRISE? >> OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[d. Mayor and City Commission Compensation Comparison]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION COMPENSATION

COMPARISON. >> I BET YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS, RIGHT, MR. MIMMS.

>> IVE GAVE YOU THE LARGE PRINTOUT THIS TIME.

>> SO. >> YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO

US ABOUT THIS. >> THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT THE COMMISSION SALARIES ARE ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE. AND SINCE ABOUT 2016 THERE HAVE BEEN INCREASES THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU THE COMMISSION AS WELL THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE BY ORDINANCE. SO I'M BRINGING THIS UP IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WHEN THE SALARIES CHANGE IT MUST BE DONE BY ORDINANCE I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD. I NEED TOE CORRECT IT TO WHAT IT IS NOW. THE LAST INCREASE AND IT IS DONE WITH A BUDGET CYCLE WE DO ADOPT IT BY ORDINANCE I HAVE TO FIGHT WITH MUNI CODE TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER IN THE CODE.

THE LAST INCREASE WAS NOT DONE BY ORDINANCE AND NOT.

THAT'S THE REASON FOR ME BRINGING THIS FORWARD THE LAST COMMISSION CONFERENCE AGENDA, MANY OF YOU ASKED FOR A COMPARISON. WHAT IT WAS TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHAT STAFF SUPPORT WAS THERE.

AND HOW INSURANCE AND RETIREMENT HOW THAT PLAYED IN.

THE SALARY WE REPORT FOR ELECTION PURPOSES IS THE ANNUAL SALARY PLUS THE CAR ALLOWANCE. WE MADE THE CALL TO FIGURE OUT

WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES. >> NOW WE KNOW.

NO RHYME OR REASON. , WE DON'T COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, IN PORT ST. LUCIE DIDN'T THEY CHANGE THE NUMBERS.

>> WE DIDN'T GET THOSE. I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE

EFFECTIVE YET. >> AFTER 2022?

>> I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN. THEY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AFTER

THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE. >> THESE ARE OLD NUMBERS, THEY

CHANGED THEM. >> I WOULD SAY THAT'S --

>> THE COMMUNITY COMMISSIONER, I THOUGHT IT WAS 80,000, I DON'T HAVE THE NEW ONE. THE UPPER 40S OR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT. >> I WAS SURPRISED AT THAT.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION OR A STATEMENT I AGREE THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH A BUDGET CYCLE WE TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE WE TALKED ABOUT APPROVING THE BUDGET AND COST OF LIVING INCREASES FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE OMIT OURSELVES. I DON'T THINK WE EVEN HAVE TO MAKE THE STATEMENT BASED ON WHAT I HEAR.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THEM UP SEPARATE AND PART FROM THE EMPLOYMENT AGENTSY FUNCTION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

TALK ABOUT COMMISSION SALARIES ADJUST IT, LET'S ADJUST IT.

IT COULD BE 1000 OR A DOLLAR. WHATEVER IT S I WANT TO TAKE IT AS A SEPARATE PART OF WHAT WE DO EITHER AT BUDGET TIME OR WHENEVER THE COMMISSION CHOOSES.

I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT SEPARATE IS THE POINT.

>> WELL, THAT APPARENTLY IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

WHAT -- WHAT I REMEMBER HAPPENED IS THAT WE HAD A FORMER COMMISSIONER, PREVIOUS TO YOU WHO WOULD REMEMBER TO SAY THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IS, WE NONE OF US THOUGHT YOU HAVE DOING THAT OR SOME THOUGHT OF DOING IT.

NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. >> IN MY FIVE YEARS.

>> SO, I THINK WHAT MISS COX IS SAYING SHE DOESN'T CARE WHAT IT IS BUT TO BE A SEPARATE PROCESS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE

SUPPOSED TO DO. >> I THINK IT IS TRANSPARENT WE

DO IT SEPARATELY; I AGREE. >> IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO

DO IT THAT WAY. >> YES, SIR.

>> I THINK THE LAST TIME THE COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS IN 2004 THAT ENDED UP IN A 2005 CHANGE.

I KNEW IT WAS RIGHT AFTER -- I MEAN.

[02:35:03]

>> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. >> THAT'S HOW LONG AGO.

16, 17 YEARS AGO. I THINK THAT'S NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, A LOT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

THE RETIREMENT ISSUE THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MOMENT.

SOMEBODY RUNS FOR OFFICE A FOUR-YEAR TERM.

A FEWER-YEAR TERM. WHEN AN EMPLOYER OFFERS RETIREMENT IT IS FOR LOYALTY LONGEVITY, ALL THE THINGS IT IS

A BENEFIT TO THAT PERSON. >> IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR SOMEONE THAT IS ON A FOUR-YEAR TERM.

WE DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS CAN YOU RERUN IN FOUR YEARS AND GO FORWARD. WE HAVE A FOUR-YEAR VESTING.

IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. I TAKE IT FURTHER THAT TWO ARE ON THE RETIREMENT BOARDMENT CAN YOU MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND I HAVE FELT CONFLICTING MOMENTS AS A MEMBER THAT'S BEEN ON THAT FOR 12 YEARS.

I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SAYING, REALLY, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THAT. I WOULD RATHER COME UP WITH A SALARY, A SET SALARY, LEAVE THE HEALTH CARE AND THOSE THINGS THE CAR ALLOWANCE, WE NEED THAT, BUT REMOVE THE THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND IN JANUARY OF 2010 WHEN I WAS PUT INTO OFFICE, I REMEMBER THE SAME COMMISSION THEY'RE WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT TOLD ME SAID IT IS EASY, OFF COUPLE OF COMMITTEES AND TWO MEET AS MONTH.

LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW. SOME OF THE MEETINGS LAST, 6, 7, 8 HOURS AND INTO NIGHT. WE HAVE MEETINGS BEFORE THE MEETINGS TO PREPARE FOR THE MEETINGS.

SO IT HAS GOTTEN TO BE INTO IF NOT A FULL-TIME JOB A CLOSE TO FULL-TIME JOB. WE HAVE TO FIND TIME TO DO IT.

THERE IS A LOT MORE MOVING PARTS TO WHAT IT IS TO RUN A CITY OUR SIZE. I THINK IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT PROMPTS THAT POSITION THAT WE HAVE BE RESPECTABLE TO THE TIME WE HAVE.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY A SERVICE THAT WE'RE ALL GIVING TO DO THAT AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE BALL OF WAX.

COME UP WITH AN IDEA. MAKE THE CLERK HAPPY SETTING THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE AND BEING RESPONSIBLE AND THE FUTURE PEOPLE IN WILL BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE THAT MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY DO THIS. I HEARD IT BEFORE.

PART OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT THING.

I HAVE A FAMILY. I HAVE TIME HERE THAT I CAN NOT GIVE UP. IF I DO IT IS GOING TO COST ME TOO MUMP IN DOLLARS AND CENTS AND TIME.

AND TO THE FAMILY. WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO THAT AND COME UP WITH MAYBE A NEW BALL OF WAX THAT MAKES

SENSE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> I AGREE COMMISSIONER PERONA ABOUT THAT.

THAT CONVERSATION. I THINK IT BRINGS THE PUBLIC INTO PLAY. WITH THE ORDINANCE THERE IS COMMENT ON THAT. SO WE'LL GET SOME FEED BACK FROM THE CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE EFFORTS.

>> AND INCREASE PARTICIPATION. BUT THAT'S A GOOD SERVICE TO HAVE AND THIS CITY GROWS, WE WERE 43,000.

CLOSE TO 44,000 MORE THAN THAT NOW.

YOU KNOW IT IS MORE DEMANDING AND UNDERSTAND AND THE WORK THE TIME COMMIT AND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND; THAT'S TRUE THE STUFF THAT ARE YOU ASKED TO UNDERSTAND.

YOU ARE GIVEN THING HERE READ THE PACT.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRUCTION YOU VOTE NO ISSUES.

[02:40:09]

>> WE HAVE THAT TO WHAT WE DO AND SET A BAR DO I WANT TO GET INTO. AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT, I'M FOR THAT.

>> THAT ALONE IS A VALUE DOLL. I DON'T HAPPY TO BE IN THE PLAN I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE HAD A SPOUSE PLAN IN PLACE.

I CONSIDER MYSELF POLICED CHOSE NOT TO GET INTO SYSTEM BUT I CHOSE TO KEEP WHAT I HAVE. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ISWELL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND ANYWAY.

IT IS VALUABLE AS THE SALARY. >> YOU WOULD ROLE THAT IN.

I THINK SO. THAT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN AS THE

COMPENSATION PACKAGE. >> COMMISSIONER ARE YOU SAYING NO RETIREMENT OR A DIFFERENT ONE?

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I THINK,DY DIDN'T SAY NOT TO BUT SPEAKS TO THAT AND WHAT A COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR DOES.

THEY MAY HAVE. WHEN I WAS THINKING THROUGH THIS. THE COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON TALKING ABOUT IT BACKBENCHES A PART OF THAT.

MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY WHATEVER SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE A PART EVER THAT AND IT IS BE RESPONSIBLE TO THAT.

I THINK TWO TIMES SAYING THAT. IT HAS RUNG IN MY HEAD.

LET'S GET THIS CLEANED UP MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY WE ACCOMPLISH BEING TRANSPARENT AND GIVE A CHANCE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS TYPE OF THING. RATHER THAN HAPHAZARD.

>> I WOULD BRING THAT UP, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAR RIGHT IT TALKS ABOUT STAFF SUPPORT. YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT EVEN YOU KNOW THE CLERK DOES A GREAT JOB I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT PART OF THE BUDGET ANY PROFESSIONALS THAT MAY BE NEEDED FOR TO US GO TO THE DAY TO DAY OPERATION OR RECEIVE PHONE CALLS OR PASS INFORMATION ALONG OTHER SCHEDULE MEETINGS IF WE WANT TO LET IT BE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. IT SHOULD BE.

BUT DO WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR IT? MAYBE. THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

NOW IT IS -- IT IS CON TINED IN HER BUDGET BUT DO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR BUDGET TO HAVE JUST TO BE RESPONSIBLE. AND YEARS AGO THE COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON GETS $3000 FOR TRAVEL YOU GET $3000 AND RIGHT NOW IT IS LUMPED TOGETHER AND ONE BIG SUM.

AND IT JUST WORKS ITS WAY DOWN. WHEN IT IS RED, MONEY IS

TRANSFERRED. >> IT IS IN THE POSITIVE AGAIN.

THAT WOULD FORCE US INTO MAKING WHICH AFFILIATIONS FOR THE CITY. THAT'S ALL.

AND FORCES LIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IT IS THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN THE

[02:45:07]

MAYBE A YOUNG COMMISSIONER WORK HARDER SO YOU CAN BE INVESTED TO GET TO THE TERMS. THAT'S A MORE CONVERSATION.

I SEE VOLUSIA AND OKEECHOBEE. AND WAS MONEY MORE.

THEY PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW ON SOME LEVEL AND RETIREMENT SYSTEM THAT'S NOT WHY YOU RUN FOR OFFICE.

FOR THE SALARY. THE WHEN I LOOK AT THE SHEET AND COMES INTO PLAY AND DOLLARS PER CAPITA.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER. IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH.

>> IT DOESN'T. >> IT DOESN'T.

BUT OUR SALARIES, THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGETS. YOU JUST USE THIS LAST YEAR WHEN I TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE, I COMPARED OURS.

AND GETS TO SPEND ABOUT 2400 PER RESIDENT IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THE LAST CALCULATION WE SPENT ABOUT 800

PER RESIDENT. >> LOOK AT THE FUND.

THE BUDGET OF. >> WE HAVE SURPASSED IT FOR THIS NUMBER 43,000. AND $1000 IN OUR BUDGET.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY THERE 2000 AND THEY GET TO SPEND PER RESIDENT THAT TELLS YOU A LOT ABOUT THE BUDGET.

OUR PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.

AND WHAT WE CAN DO. AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE SORRY OUT OF THE STORY THAT WE GET DONE WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT BUT THE SALARIES. I AGREE AND HEALTH CONCERN CAN BE PART OF THE PACKAGE THEY GET A REPORT FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. AND THE TAXES.

>> WE GET. >> BACK TO THE RETIREMENT.

AND I WANT TO SAY ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT BEING IN THE RETIREMENT PROGRAM MAY MAKE YOU INTERESTED.

THE LONGER YOU SERVE. >> IT IS QUITE THE NEST EGG.

WITH NO TERM LIMITS, COMMISSIONER?

>> WHEN YOU START ADDING IN, YOU KNOW THE HIGHEST WHATEVER ELSE.

IT IS ALL A MATH, IT COULD TAKE AWAY THE INTENTION TO DO THAT.

>> YES. >> EP LIVE IF THE FUTURE COMMISSIONS DECIDE TO COME ALONG AND START SUPPORTING TERM LIMITS. AND I'M SAYING DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IT DOES NOT FOLLOW THE MOTIVE THAT WE FOLLOWED THE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE.

, YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD A LONG TIME.

THERE ARE ITEMS THAT COME UP AND THIS IS THE TIME WE'RE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO LEAD THAT INTO A AND YOU KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

WE MENTION WHAT WE DON'T THICK AND A TASK ABOUT THIS TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AND ACCORDING TO THE CLERK.

[02:50:07]

ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK I SAID THIS BEFORE.

WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT COMMISERATE WITH THE WORK WE DO. YOU DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO RUN FOR THE SALARY AND BENEFITS. I GUESS THAT MOTIVE COULD WORK FOR SERVICE. IT COULD WORK FOR SERVICE, I DIDN'T KNOW. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING IN GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE REAL WORLD AND HAVE EXPERIENCE AND HAVE SOME KIND OF REASON OTHER THAN THE SALARY AND THE PERKS.

, THAT'S MY BELIEF SYSTEM. I THINK THAT PORT ST. LUCIE DIDMENT THEY DOUBLED THE MAYOR'S SALARY AND THEY -- THEY AND WHAT I HEARD AS A RESULT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT THOSE THAT HAD PART-TIME JOBS OR OTHER JOBS FACILITY A RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVER UP AND NOW THEY WERE MAKING A HEALTHIER ER SALARY AND SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD -- IT ALTERS KIND OF THE MAYBE THE GUY NAMMIC OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT WE CAN STAY WITHIN. WE CANNOT SET THE SALARY.

WHERE WILL WE TAKE IT FROM. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYONE SELLS THINKING. WE THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR THE CLERK TO PUT TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE FORST THAT WHAT ARE

YOU ASKING FOR. >> NOT THE NEXT MEETING.

I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ROUNDING IT OFF TO THE NUMBERS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. , I WILL JULY DATE THOSE, THAT WAS BEFORE THE LATEST INCREASE SO CURRENTLY THE MAYOR MAKES 3 36,301.20. PLUS A 4200-DOLLAR A YEAR CAR ALLOWANCE. THE COMMISSIONERS 27,814.80 PLUS THE CAR ALLOWANCE. 40500 ROUGHLY AND COMMISSIONERS ARE 32,000. I WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND YOUR RETIREMENT SO IT IS CLEAR MOVING FORWARD THIS IS WHAT YOU DECIDED IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CHANGE IT THEY CAN CHANGE IT BY ORDINANCE.

THE SALARIES HAVE TO BE STATED AS EQUAL SO THE INSURANCE, I CANNOT EVERYONE CORN RATE THAT FOR MY CALCULATION PURPOSES FOR THE COLLECTIONS IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.

THEY MAY HAVE A FAMILY. AND THE INSURANCE IS DIFFERENT.

>> DON'T ACCEPT THE HEALTH INSURANCE IS GOING TO BE

DIFFERENT. >>> IF YOU ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE ELELIGIBLE IN THE PLAN LIKE ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE, WE CAN STATE IT AT THAT ALL IS GOOD. YES OR NO TO THE RETIREMENT.

YOU WANTED THE NUMBERS. >> I'M SORRY U.

>> WE'RE CANING AROUND THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

THAT'S THE NUMBER. ANYBODY WANT TO WEIGH IN HERE.

WE HAVE NEW NUMBERS. 36301.

AND 28 -- >> 814.

>> AND 36 -- 36301. >> ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO A NUMBER FOR US AND SHE WOULD CALCULATE FROM THERE.

>> THAT'S THE MEET. THAT'S OUR DECISION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE THAT ON THE RETIREMENT TODAY.

[02:55:03]

I WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BUT I'M OKAY WITH JUST.

I LIKE THE EVEN NUMBERS. I'M OKAY WITH 36 HOWS RANKED.

EVEN OFF THE NUMBERS. IT IS GOING DOWN IN BOTH OF THOSE.

THAT WENT DOWN? I WOULD ROUND UP A LITTLE BIT.

>> I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE AT 28 FLAT AND, 365.

EVEN NUMBERS WITH ZEROS. >> IT IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, FOLS. COME ON.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. >> HERE IS YOUR CANDY BACK.

A MONUMENTAL MOMENT. >> IT DOES NOT MAKE THAT MUCH

DIFFERENCE. >> IT DOESN'T BUT FOR --

>> FOR TRANSPARENCY YOU KNOW FOR.

>> BUT IT IS IF I UNDERSTAND IT STARTS HERE THE CLOCK GOES FORWARD. NEXT YEAR COMMISSION THIS WILL COME UP RIGHT EVERY YEAR DO WE SET IT A TIME LIMIT THE ITIT WITH THE BE SET -- IT WILL BE SET EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY YOU RENEW IT OR REVIEW IT AT ANY THE OTHER OPTION THAT YOU CAN TIE IT TO CPI TO INCREASE EVERY YEAR BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S UP TO

YOU. >> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IMMEDIATE OR WE TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO A OCTOBER 1?

>> IT NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATE BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE YOU GETTING PAID NOW ARE NOT WHAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE.

>> THEY CAME WITH THE LAST INCREASE?

>> CORRECT. >> RIGHT.

>> AND ONE THING THAT IS ASSUMED THAT BUT NEEDS TO BE STATED IS THAT NO MORE WILL THIS ISSUE BE TIED TO THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES.

>> I'M MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR. >> THAT DOES NOT.

>> THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN EVER, EVER.

>> EMPLOYEES GET A RAISE THEN WE'RE NOT TIED TO THAT.

>> YOU WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE. >> GOOD.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE COMMISSION

SOMEONE ELSE WILL KNOW THAT. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> SO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. ARE YOU --

>> THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND ABOUT 200-DOLLARS IN EACH DIRECTION.

I THINK THAT'S A START. WE'LL TEST TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO COMMENT ON THAT, COMMENTS, SIGNS AND PEANUT

GALLERIES. >> IF YOU CAN GUARANTEE ME WE

WILL NOT HAVE COMMENT. >> THERE WILL BE A COMET.

>> PORT ST. LUCIE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT TENS OF DOLLARS BUT THOUSANDS. IF THEY PUT UP WITH IT.

>> MORE THAN DOUBLED. >> PUT UP WITH IT THEY PUT UP WITH IT FOR A REASON. SO -- WE'RE ROUNDING IT UP MAKES SENSE AND I SUPPORT THAT. IT IS TENS OF DOLLARS NOT HOWSND

YAS. >> YES.

WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING BENEFITS. THAT WAY IT IS CLEAR.

>> WARRIOR ARE YOU COMMISSIONER?

>> I WENT FIRST. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT DOES MATTER. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.

WHY DID YOU ASK ME. >> WE HAVE TWO THAT AGREE HERE.

WE AGREE SO ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE?

[03:00:15]

>> IT IS A PR PRINCIPLE. WHEN I GET TO BE ON MY SIDE OF THE PRINCIPLES. THAT'S WHY I DUG IN.

NOT HERE I'M TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THIS DEVICE THAT I GOT HERE. YOU SEE ANY OTHER EVEN NUMBERS

THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY? >> WE AT 2-2 HERE.

IS THAT THE CONSENSUS. >> $200.

>> 500 TOTAL. >> ONE IS ROUNDING DOWN.

ONE IS ROUNDING UP. >> AND THAT LEAVE IT WHERE IT

IS. >> AND.

>> WELL YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

LET ME GO ON THE RECORD. >> TELL ME.

>> I DO NOT GO DOWN. I'LL STAY THE SAME I'M NOT GOING NEGATIVE. PERIOD.

>> WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE SAME.

>>> I'M FINE THE SAME. >> DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ROUND NUMBERS JUST LOOK IT IN WHERE IT IS.

WE'RE THERE AND MOVE FORWARD. >> SO THE NUMBERS STAY WHERE THEY ARE. AND WE'LL EC WAIT AN ORDER TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL. , WE HAVE A CONSENSUS.

AND MISS COX HAS AN ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE.

>> NEXT ITEM, RIGHT. >> IF I CAN, MAYOR.

WHEN I FIRST RAN FOR OFFICIALS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED BY THE NEWSPAPER IS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HAVING AN ANNUAL RAISE FOR THE COMMISSION? I REMEMBER WRITING THE ANSWER AT THE TIME TONGUE-IN-CHEEK SAYING I THINK IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT EVERY YEAR EVERY YEAR THERE IS AN ELECTION LIKE THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION MAKE THAT DECISION GOING FORWARD.

LAUGHING AT IT THINKING IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

>> HERE WE ARE. >> WE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE

NEXT ITEM. >> YES.

>> THE NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC; HAVE THREE MINUTES STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> SORT OF GOOD MORNING. CHARS WILSON 65114 VERO BEACH, FLORIDA. MY CONDOLENCES FOR COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER AND PRAYERS FOR MRS. ALEXANDER.

AND I WANTED TO COME TO SPEAK ON THE ELECTION REFORM PACKAGE WHICH YOU JUST SORT OF SPOKE ABOUT.

AND I HAVE, THERE ARE THREE OTHER PARTS OF THE REFORM.

ONE IS THE CLERK HAS SUBMITTED SOME CHANGES TO HELP HER MAKE CHANGES ON ELECTION QUALIFICATIONS.

I WANT TO APPLAUD THE CLERK. SHE HAS BEEN PROACTIVE AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. I WANT TO MENTION TWO THINGS.

ME MAY HAVE CHANGED THIS BUT THE PROPOSAL I SAW WATCHING YOU FOLKS DISCUSS THIS BACK IN THE OTHER CONFERENCE.

THERE ARE TWO PROBLEMS. FIRST A SECTION WHERE SHE SAYS THAT YOU MUST SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING AND THEN GIVE AS LIST. I WANT TO CAUTION YOU ABOUT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AND THE EVIDENCE TO BE ABLE TO -- THE EXAMPLE IS VOTER REGISTRATION. THE VOTER REGISTRATION CAN PROVE

[03:05:02]

HE WAS REGISTERED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT DIDN'T PROVE HE WAS A RESIDENT BUT A RESIDENT SOMEWHERE ELSE DURING THAT PERIOD EFFICIENT TWO YEARS.

WHEN THE PROBLEM WAS THAT, THAT WAS CLEAR, THEY HAD THE EVIDENCE AND THE CLERK HAD THE EVIDENCE DEBATE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE THE CLICKER THE ABILITY TO CORRECT ERRORS LIKE THAT. THE SITUATION WAS THAT HE EITHER HAD REGISTERED AND VOTED IN THE WRONG PRECINCT OR HE FILED AN AFFIDAVIT THAT SAID THAT HE WAS A RESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE AND VOTING SOMEWHERE ELSE. HE COMMITTED VOTER FRAUD OR COMMITTED PIGGERY. ONE OR THE OTHER IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN -- ONE OR THE OTHER. I WONDER WHY IT HAS NOT BEEN REFERRED TO THE STATE ATTORNEY FOR CONSIDERATION.

THE SECOND ISSUE IS REDISTRICTING.

YOU DISCUSSED RESTRICTING I'M AN EXPERT ON RESTRICTING AN EXPERT ON POLITICAL STATISTICS. RESTRICTING DOES NOT, MAY NOT BE NECESSARY IN YOUR CASE. TOUGH SEE BUT IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. THE LAST THING THE CONSENT ORDER. IS IT LEGAL.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. THE SECTION 5 OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT SAID IT MAY NOT BE USE BID A COVER THE JURISDICTION CAN SHOW THE CHANGE HAS A DISCRIMINATORY PURPOSE OR EFFECT AFTER MARCH 11TH, 2020. THE CONSENT ORDER IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW. THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHALLENGE IT YOU KEEP IT. IT HAS A SEF ARE AABLETY CLAUSE. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE STATE ATTORNEY FOR AN OPINION IF YOU ARE ADVISING ILLEGALLY OR NOT.

>> THAT'S ALL I CAN DO IN THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I FORGOT TO START THE TIMER.

ANYONE ELSE. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE.

CLOSE THAT. >> AND NED WE HAVE CITY

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

COMMISSION BOARDS AND UPDATES. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO START I'LL ASK FOR A VOLUNTEER AS OPPOSED TO CALLING THE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON FIRST E.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO START. I WROTE THEM EARLY.

SO WE MEET WITH THE LINCOLN PARK BOARD.

AND WE ARE, WE HAD CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP THERE.

SO OUR EXECUTIVE, NOT EXECUTIVE, OUR PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD HAS TENDERED HER RESIGNATION. WE'RE GETTING A NEW PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD BUT I MISSPOKE. IN PLACE DOING A GREAT JOB.

AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AND REVIEWING ON THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD THE AGREEMENT FOR MEANS COURT AND THAT ENTITY IN THE BUILDING.

WE'RE DOING THAT AND LOOKING AT SOME OTHER THINGS THAT RECENTLY WE WERE TASKED WITH AN EXERCISE TO LOOK AT HOW WE RECOGNIZE PAST MEMBERS. WE'RE GOING THROUGH WE SLOWED THERE ADD THE MEETING THERE. AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA ON PRUITT HIGHWAY. THE SUNRISE KITCHEN. FROM THAT POINT WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS THERE AND THE GROWTH OF THAT CORRIDOR. THERE HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT AND THE PARCEL. THINGS COMING FORTH RECENTLY OF SOME ACQUISITIONS AND SOME OTHER THINGS COMING INTO THE PARK AREA TO BUILD THE WEST END CORRIDOR. STAY TUNED ON THAT.

>> ROUND TABLE MET THIS FRIDAY. I WILL SAY AGAIN THERE HAVE BEEN NEW EDITIONS AND SHUFFLING THERE.

AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR A LOT OF THE WORK WHEN IT IS AND THE ENGAGE IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES I WILL SAY THAT AS A PART OF THAT.

[03:10:12]

AND SHARING ON THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU MAY TALK ABOUT THIS BUT ENCOURAGE WE LISTEN IN. AND MAYBE IN THEIR FUTURE AND THE INITIATIVES. I MET WITH THE NEW INFRAME CORRECTOR AND MAKING SOME MUCH NEEDED STRIDES.

AND HEAR FROM THEM. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> IN MOST OF THE MEET S ARE HAPPENING THIS WEEK I HAVE THE SUNRISE THEATER BOARD MEETING TOMORROW.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW THE NEXT TIME WE LOST OUR CHAIRMAN AND WE'RE IN THE MIDST IT HAS BEEN PET. AND AND A REPORT AND ON UPCOMING ISSUES OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

>> MR. JAY JOHNSON. >> MAIN STREET WE HAD A FRIDAY FEST. AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS HOT.

PEOPLE ARE HERE AND READY TO GET ABOUT.

WE HAD NEW BOARD MEMBERS. THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF LIKE 21 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON MAIN STREET.

I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A BIG NUMBER.

WE ADDED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. WE CELEBRATED AND 31 YEARS.

AND THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING. >> DOES SHE HAVE A NEW

ASSISTANT. >> MARIAH.

I CAN CONNECT YOU OR CALL. THE RAFFLE COMING UP AND BE TOMORROW AND IT WILL BE TOMORROW.

>> IT WILL BE IN PERSON AT 500 ORANGE.

WHICH IS A PART OF MAIN STREET. IT GOES OUT TO 10TH.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> THAT'S THE MAIN STREET.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT GETTING ACROSS U.S.-1 AND GET ACROSS THE BOARD. TPO PART OF THE SKI AS THE CHAIR AND WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF THE COST OF LIVING.

ALONG WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

THAT WAS APPROVED. >> AND THE DIRECTOR CAN DO PERFORMANCE INCREASES. WE ASKED THEM NOT TO DO IT.

BASED ON THE PANDEMIC ST. LUCIEMENT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FAIR TO BE CONSISTENT. WE WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BECAUSE THE LEGISLATION WILL MEET EARLY

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AND THE BUSINESS THE MARKETING PROGRAMMING COME UP WITH IDEAS TO CONTINUE MARKETING AND. AND AND THEY DO.

>>> AND THE CHAMBER DID NOT MEET.

THAT'S WHERE I AM. >>> SO, COMMISSIONER WE WENT TO THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS USING THE S SUNSHINE KITCHEN THAT HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNERSHIP FOR THE FOOD BANK AND IWAYS GOING TO ADD THAT TO YOUR REPORT. STARTS ON WEDNESDAY ADD WE'LL BE THERE, WE'LL MEET AT THE MARRIOTT.

AND AS FAR AS I KNOW WE'LL HAVE THE HOTEL TO OURS THE OTHER MEETING SCHEDULED THERE PULLED OUT.

THEY WILL BE COVID PROTOCOLS SENDING OUT INFORMATION ABOUT.

AND THE AUTHORITY THE LAST MEETING TALKED ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE DIRECTOR. THE DIRECTOR ANNOUNCED RETIRE AT THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE NEXT YEAR AND A PLAN THAT HAPPENED IMMEDIATELY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO DUAL TRACKS FOR THE DIRECTOR IN CASE OF AT ANY POINT IN TIME THE

DIRECTOR IS NOT ABLE TO. >> THANK YOU FOR JUMPING IN AND GETTING THAT MOVING IN THE RIGHT WAY.

IT WAS CONFUSING. I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY, VERY

RESOURCEFUL. >> THAT MISSION IS THERE.

ADD RETIRE WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND CHECK THE BOX AND THAT'S TOUGH. THE INCOMING DIRECTOR WANTS THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. I HEARD THAT DISCUSSION I APPRECIATE THAT THE BOARD BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.

>> A GOOD LOOK INTO FUTURE WE HAD THREE PEOPLE THERE.

RIGHT, RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING THAT ALONG.

>> THE TREASURE COAST MET AND OUR SPEAKER WAS FROM ORCA DR. EDIE WHITER. AND SOME VERY SIMPLE WAYS TO.

>>> IT WAS A REFRESHING. AND IT WAS IN DOUBLE JUST LIKE HERE IS HOW WE CAN PROTECT THE LAGOON.

I WOULD LIKE THEM TO COME TO THE COMMISSION SOME VERY SIMPLE THINGS IN TERMS OF YOUR OWN YARD AND SPACE.

AND VERY EFFECTIVE. AND THE FIRE BOARD MEETS NEXT WEEK. AND I DIDN'T GO TO THE

APPRECIATION PARTY. >> AND THE BOARD.

>> AND NO, DIDN'T. >> I DEPENDENT GO TO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S ALL OF MY REPORT UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE.

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>> ONE QUESTION ON THE APPLICANTS FOR THE BOARD WHEN IS THAT FINALIZED? MONTH BUT I -- I WOULD NOT -- I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN. WE SENT OUT A NEW PRESS RELEASE

SEEKING APPLICANTS. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT IN LIGHT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT.

THERE ARE TWO BOARD MEMBERS MAKING SOME BIG DECISIONS GOING

RIGHT OFF THE BAT. >> THREE BOARD MEMBERS.

THE FUTURE LEADERSHIP. GOOD POINT.

>>> WITH THAT BEING SAID I WILL BE BRINGING FORTH AN APPLICATION IN LIGHT OF MR. REUBEN JOHNSON'S STEPPING BACK AS A RESULT OF THAT SO. VERY EXCITED TO MAKE SURE SOON AND THE APPLICATION WILL BE IN TODAY.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> SUPER.

>> GREAT. >>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE THANK YOU, WE ADJOURN EVERYONE MOVE OUT TO THE FOYER AND TURNING OFF THE LIGHTS AND PACKING UP THE GEAR HERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.