[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>> WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO SIGNED UP.

MICHAEL JENKINS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES MR. JENKINS AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AT THE BEGINNING. MR. COX WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING BUZZER. OF THREE SECONDS.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL

JENKINS. >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL JENKINS 2204 GRAND OAK AVENUE FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE TODAY TO JUST TO DISCUSS BRIEFLY THE FISHERMAN WHARF CONTRACT. I JUST FOUND OUT BY THE THAT'S WHY I'M UP HERE TODAY TO JUST ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT GOES WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE CITY COMMISSION LAST MONTH DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR END GAME IS.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A LEASE TO NOW IT'S A PURCHASE OF ALL THE CITY PROPERTY. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING

WHAT'S GOING ON? >> WHAT WE DO IS WE DON'T ENGAGE IN THE DIALOGUE NOW ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP WE WILL DISCUSS YOUR AND GIVE YOU

ANSWERS, OKAY. >> LATER THEN.

YOU CAN TALK NOW ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO RESPOND LATER WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM.

>> YEAH, OKAY. YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY WANTED 12 A BUOY AND EVERYBODY DID WE WANTED TO.

ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE.

IT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE. WHAT Y'ALL TALK WITH SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES OVER BEFORE THIS PLAN IS FINALIZED.

THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL. >> OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE MOVE ONTO ADDITIONS OR DELETION TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

>> ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OR.

>> MOVE TO SET THE AGENDA. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL ROLL

[a. Presentation of Home Rule Hero Award to Mayor Hudson by Councilwoman Caraballo, Treasure Coast Regional League of Cities, and brief presentation on Home Rule and Advocacy efforts. ]

>>> NEXT MISCELLANEOUS REPORTS.

FIRST A PRESENT OF HOME ROOM HERO AWARD FROM MAYOR HUDSON BY COUNCILMAN CAROL AND A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON HOME

RULE AND ADVOCACY EFFORTS. >> GOOD EVENING FORT PIERCE COMMISSION, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE COUNCILMAN JULIAN SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES OR ACTUALLY FIRST I AM NOW FIRST VICE PRESIDENT. AND BEFORE I START WITH YOU MAYOR HUDSON I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE RUFFUS.

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HIS LAST COMMENT MEANT SO MUCH TO ME IN FACT, VICE MAYOR MADE THIS COMMENT AS WELL, RUFFUS THE WORD THAT DESCRIBES HIM TO US WAS ALWAYS KIND HE WAS ALWAYS EXTREMELY KIND, WELCOMING EVERY TIME WE SAW HIM HE WOULD JUST SMILE AND IT WAS JUST LIKE SEEING AN OLD FRIEND. HE'S GOING TO BE MISED AND I KNOW AS A CENTER AT FORT PIERCE HE WILL BE MISSED.

I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOUR DAD IMPACKED NOT JUST FORT PIERCE BUT THE ENTIRE STATE WITH JUST HIS SMILE AND HIS GENTILE NATURE AND I KNOW YOU WILL MISS HIM AND WHAT HE DID AS A MORETARY SPECIALIST IS HUMBLING. THAT'S -- AS MORTUARY SPECIALIST IS RUMBLING -- HUMBLING.

WHAT HE DID IS AN INCREDIBLE ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY I JUST WANT TO REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HIS SERVICE.

NOW, IF WE CAN GO TO MAYOR HUDSON, MAYOR HUDSON IS NOT JUST A FRIENDS OF MINE BUT SHE'S A FRIEND OF HOME RULE.

SHE'S A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND SHE HAS BEEN A MENTOR TO ME DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND HONESTLY I DON'T THINK THAT I WOULD BE WHERE I'M AT WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE IF IT WASN'T FOR MAYOR HUDSON. THAT'S JUST BECAUSE SHE'S SUCH A CHAMPION FOR HOME RULE.

HOME RULE WHAT IT MEANS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT I THE MAN BE AWARE IT IS TO ESSENTIALLY PREEXEMPTION FROM THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALLOWSOUS TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS FOR YOU RIGHT HERE AT HOME.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN COME TO FORT PIERCE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IF YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL THE REGULATIONS AT THIS DYESS THE STATE LEVEL HAS TAKEN THAT PREEMPTION AWAY AS WE KNOW.

WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS FOR YOU ANYMORE,

RIGHT, MAYOR? >> RIGHT.

>> IT'S THE SAME THING THE ONE THAT'S AFFECTED US AS A CITY THE MOST IS THE MOST RECENT PREEMPTION WHICH IS NO LONGER CAN YOU MAKE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS TO YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. FROM NOW ON YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF. THE DAYS AND TIMES THAT WE LIVE IN WHERE, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY QUICK TO ANGER VERSUS SLOW I WOULD SAY THAT WE ALL FEEL A LITTLE BIT SAFER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ANONYMOUSLY.

SO THESE ARE MANY OF THE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR STATE LEVEL AND YOUR FEDERAL LEVEL TAKE PREKPEMPION AND THEY TAKE -- PREEMPTION AND THEY TAKE AND HOLD US HOSTAGE AS CITY RESIDENTS.

BUT, MAYOR HUDSON IS A CHAMPION WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AND THAT'S WHY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS RECOGNIZING HER THIS EVENING.

I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS ON OUR BEHALFFUL SHE IS NUMBER ONE WHEN IT COMES TO E-MAILING.

THEY DEFINITELY KNOW HER NAME.

MORE THAN LIKELY WHEN SHE CONTACTS HER THEY RESPOND TO HER. THEY RESPOND TO THE HOME RULE INQUIRES AND I'M VERY PROUD OF HER AND HONORED THAT I CAN BE HERE. TODAY I WILL PRESENT YOU WITH FOR BEING A CHAMPION OF DEFENSE AND PROTECTION OF MUNICIPAL HOME ROOL. PRESENTS 2021 HOME RULE HERO TO MAYOR LINDA HUDSON CITY OFFORD PIERCE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE.

>> AFTER I HAD DONE I SAID WHAT AM I GETTING PAID FOR

ALL THIS. >> OH, YEAH, YOU WORK HARD.

>> BUT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOME RULE AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE SEEING EACH ONE OF NEW TALLAHASSEE VERY SHORTLY FIGHTING FOR THE PREEMPTION FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOME RULE OR HOW YOU CAN HELP BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED YOUR HELP IN FIGHTING PREEMPTION MAYOR HUDSON IS YOUR CHAMPION AND YOU CAN CONTACT THE TREASURE COAST

REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. >> SO WE ALSO NEED CITIZENS

HELP, TOO. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> VERY MUCH. >> WE FOUND THAT LEGISLATORS ALMOST LISTEN TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THE CITIZENS MORE THAN US BECAUSE WHEN THEY SEE US COMING THEY ROLL THEIR EYES AND OH, HOME RULE HERE THEY COME AGAIN.

SO, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAVE OUR CITIZENS HELPING US FIGHT FOR HOME RULE IN THE LEGISLATURE.

AND ALSO, I WANT TO SAY HAD YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENT NEXT YEAR THAT'S GOING TO BE THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.

SO SHE HAS PROMISED A REALLY BIG CELEBRATION.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXCELLENT CELEBRATION FOR 100 YEARS OF THE FIGHTING OF PREEMPTION.

IT'S SAD WE HAVE TO FIGHT IT SO LONG I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, YES, MA'AM, IT'S HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS YOUR PRESIDENT. YOUR NOT COME OF CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CONTACTING THEIR LOCAL LEGISLATORS AND GIVING THEM THOSE PHONE CALLS.

THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS GREAT CITIZEN TOOLS THAT

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YOU CAN LOOK UP ON THEIR WEBSITE AS COMMISSIONERS AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOUR CITIZENS AND IN FACT THERE'S A NEW GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN THAT MR. SCOTT DUDLEY AND ALLISON PAIN THAT'S GOING TO HELP ENGAGE YOUR CITIZENS WITH LOCAL ZOOM MEETINGS FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO MEET IN PERSON AND GIVING THEM THE TOOLS NECESSARY THEY NEED TO HELP FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS HERE. BECAUSE LOCAL VOICES SHOULD BE THE ONES MAKING THE LOCAL CHOICES.

>> RIGHT. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KNOW THE LAW THAT PASSED NOBODY KNEW THAT.

NOW WE HAVE THAT BILL AND AND ANONYMOUS CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE PREVIOUS SESSION THE ONE ABOUT THE CUTTING DOWN THE TREES AND EVERYBODY WAS SO UPSET ABOUT THAT. YOU SAY WELL TALLAHASSEE PREEMPTED US. SO WE ALL HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB AT KNOWING WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS DOING AND SPEAKING UP FOR OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. LIKE THE HOMEBASE BUSINESS BILL THEY DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS HOURS OF OPERATION.

YOU HAVE TO OFFER, NOT THAT MOST HOMEBASE BUSINESSES MAY NOT BE THAT INTRUSIVE INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT WHEN YOU START THINKING OF INTRUSIVE NATURE OF ITEMS THAT MAYBE DURING THE DAY MAY NOT BE A BURDEN TO THE COMMUNITY BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO THE EVENING IF THERE'S NO PARAMETER SET. THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE HERE ON THE GROUND WE'RE THE ONES GETTING THE COMPLAINTS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR CITIZENS NEED.

IT'S PARTICULAR WHAT HAPPENS IN FORT PIERCE ISN'T NECESSARILY WHO SHOULD BE GOING ON IN OKEECHOBEE OR IN PORT ST. LUCIE. THE STATE IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER STATE SO GIVE US THE CONTROL SO WE CAN GIVE OUR

CITIZENS REPRESENTATION. >>> COUNCILWOMAN I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. I WAS THERE THIS WEEK I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE USHERING IN OF THE NEW PRESIDENT PHILIP WALKER AND YOU BEING THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PLATFORM. LOOK FORWARD TO THE ADVOCACY AND YOUR ENERGY BECAUSE WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR CITIES, OUR CONSTITUENTS INVOLVED IN UNDERSTANDING. I GAINED A FAR GREATER APPRECIATION THIS WEEKEND AFTER ATTENDING THE CONFERENCE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT IT DOES NO GOOD UNTIL WE GIVE IT BEYOND THOSE FOUR WALLS INTO OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY AS EFFECTIVE AS THE CITIZENS AND THE CITIZENS NEED TO HELP US WITH THIS FIGHT. SO I'M ECSTATIC YOU THAT AND PHILIP ARE THERE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU GUYS. I'LL BE SIGNING UP FOR A FEW COMMITTEES COMING FORWARD. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT TO MANY COMMUNITIES HERE ON THE TREASURE COAST. SO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN AND

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M SO EXCITED TO HAVE YOU JOIN THE FOLD.

WE NEED AS MANY OF OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES THERE. LIKE YOU SAID THE PUBLIC IS SO IMPORTANT. PRESIDENT WALKER IS GOING TO DO AMAZING THINGS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING HIM ALONG THE WAY. THAN HOPEFULLY IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED I'LL TAKE THE HELM.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE TRANSITIONS THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IT SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PUBLIC IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THAT IS TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS. I'M GLAD YOU WERE THERE.

I WAS ABLE TO DO THE SOCIAL MEDIA ONE WHICH WAS EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS MESSAGE.

THANK YOU FOR MY AWARD. >> IT'S AN HONOR AND I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE ANY QUESTIONS ANY WAY I CAN BE OF SERVICE PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT I'M HERE TO SERVE AS WELL AS THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE BUT THE ENTIRE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO HOME RULE.

THANK YOU. >>> NEXT A PRESENTATION OF

[b. Presentation of recommendations by Police Community Advisory Committee]

THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY

COMMUNITY. >>> THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IS ABOUT A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

SO WE'LL ALLOW MR. CHARLIE HYACKK AND MISS PINKETT, YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK? TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION.

>> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.

MAYOR HUDSON. COMMISSIONERS.

>> SOMETIME AGO WE WERE HERE IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION TO DISCUSS PUTTING A SURVEY ONTO THE CITY WEBSITE AND AFTER SOME DISCUSSION THE COMMISSIONERS POINTED OUT THAT PERHAPS OUR SURVEY WAS A LITTLE TOO WORDY.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ASKED IF WE HAD AN EXPERT TO REVIEW IT, WHICH WE DID NOT. AS TIME WENT BY HE REFERRED A PERSON TO US WHO HAS REVIEWED OUR SURVEY.

HER NAME IS KATHY DAVIS. SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ASSESSMENT FOR IRSA.

HER JOB IS WRITING SURVEYS TO FIGURE OUT THE LONG-TERM

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EFFECTS TO THEIR CAMPUS. SHE'S HELPED US A LOT SHE MOVED US ALONG IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE SURVEY AND THE MAP. IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THIS MAP BECAUSE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KNOW A, THE ATTITUDES OF OUR CITIZENS HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND TWO, WHERE ARE THE AREAS THAT THESE PEOPLE LIVE SO WE CAN PINPOINT PERHAPS PROBLEM AREAS THAT NEED MORE ATTENTION AS FAR AS STAFFING.

SO THIS SURVEY WE FEEL IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET OUT AND WE AS A COMMITTEE WILL BE MONITORING THE RESULTS AND TRYING TO COMPILE IT IN MEANINGFUL STATISTICS SO WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE SO SHE CAN DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS POLICE FORCES AND MORALE FOR SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. LUCKILY FORT PIERCE DOES NOT HAVE MUCH PRIME AT ALL. -- MUCH CRIME AT ALL.

WE SEE THE ITS EVERY DAY AND REALLY WE HAVE NO HEAVY CRIME. IT'S MOSTLY MINOR CRIMES, ETC. SO THANK GOD WE HAVE A GOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

ESPECIALLY AS WE GROW. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE ON PUTTING THIS SURVEY ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THE REVIEW AND COMING UP WITH THE MORE CONDENSED VERSION. I DO LIKE THE MAP ELEMENT THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED TO GET AN IDEA THAT'S GOING TO BE USEFUL, VERY USEFUL DATA YOU KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY.

WHAT FOR MATS DO WE HAVE PROPOSED TO REACH THE

COMMUNITY FOR THIS. >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WE PRIDE TO ROLL THIS OUT LAST YEAR BUT WITH COVID IT'S MADE IT DIFFICULT. WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO IS GO TO DIFFERENT CHURCHES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS WITH HARD COPIES AND PRESENT IT TO THE FOLKS.

OTHERWISE WE'RE DEPENDENT ON GOING ON-LINE AND FILLING OUT THE SURVEY. WHETHER IT'S SURVEY MONKEY

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT

MAILING ALSO OR NOT? >> WE HAVE NOT.

WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A BUDGET.

>> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIX THAT IF WE SO CHOOSE.

>> THE MORE COVERAGE WE CAN GET THE MORE COMPLETE THE SURVEY WILL BE AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED RECENTLY IS OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE INCREASINGLY HAVING TO HAVE -- THOSE ARE INCREASING AND THE WHOLE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT HAS BECOME APART OF THE POLICE OFFICER'S JOB AS WELL AS SO THERE'S SO MANY -- THERE'S SO MANY ASPECTS OF THE JOB THAT MAYBE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND. WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE QUESTIONS DID YOU THINK ABOUT ASKING THEM ABOUT THE ASPECTS THAT THEY MAY NOT KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THAT TAKES OF A POLICEMAN'S JOB? LIKE I SAID WE GET THE REPORTS DAILY ON THE EVENTS. I WOULD SAY CLOSE TO 50%.

>> BUT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THAT I'M NOT CRITICIZING I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT SO MANY OF THE POLICEMAN'S JOB ISN'T STRICTLY CRIME-RELATED, IT'S SAFETY RELATED BUT NOT CRIME-RELATED.

I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD DISCUSSED THAT AS MAKING, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE IT PART OF THE SURVEY.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD LEARN ABOUT WHAT A POLICEMAN'S JOB IS ABOUT. PERHAPS WE CAN PUT THAT ON A

POLICE WEBSITE. >> I'M NOT REALLY SAYING THAT I'M JUST SAYING IN THE SURVEY THAT PART WON'T COME OUT SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT A POLICEMAN HAS TO DO.

THE AVERAGE CITIZEN DOESN'T HOPEFULLY MOST OF US DON'T HAVE ANY INTERACTION RIGHT, WITH THE POLICE WE'RE NOT CAUGHT SPEEDING WE DON'T HAVE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MOST OF US TRY TO LIVE OUR LIVES WITHOUT HAVING THAT INTERACTION. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE MENTAL HEALTH-RELATED CALLS. I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE TO SET THE STAGE THAT THAT'S A MAJOR PART OF THEIR

JOB. >> WELL, THAT COMES IN THE

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SECOND PART OF MY PRESENTATION.

>> I'M JUMPING THE GUN. >> PERFECT.

>> WE ARE A SMALL COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS. OUR POLICE FORCE IS COMPETING AGAINST PORT ST. LUCIE, THE SHERIFF, WHO HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN FORT PIERCE DOES.

ACROSS THE BOARD OTHER MUNICIPALITIES GAVE THEIR OFFICERS AN 8% RAISE. IT'S HARD FOR OUR POLICE FORCE TO COMPETE WITH WHAT TYPE OF COMPETITION.

WE LOSE OFFICERS AND BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY AND THE MORALE OF POLICE FORCES ARE DOWN PEOPLE AREN'T ENLISTING OR APPLYING.

OUR APPLICANTS ARE MUCH YOUNGER A LOT ARE JUST BARELY 20, 21. WE'RE NOT GETTING EXPERIENCE LIKE YOU REALLY NEED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING INTO A BAKER ACT. YOU NEED TO BE A MUCH MORE

MATURE PERSON. >> LOTS OF TRAINING.

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WHEN WE TRAIN THESE OFFICERS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE JUST SAYING THEY'RE WELL

TRAINED. >> WE WANT THEM.

>> ONE THING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES IS TRAIN THEIR OFFICERS VERY WELL. AS SOME OF YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE POLICE ACADEMY.

THAT'S ONE THING WE IMPLORE THE COMMISSION KEEP LOOKING FOR WAYS TO EXPAND THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN KEEP AND HIRE GOOD POLICE OFFICERS.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT WE

GOT TO KEEP GOING. >> EVERY TIME WE MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THEY MOVE EVEN FURTHER IN THE RIGHT

DIRECTION. >> ISN'T THAT FRUSTRATING.

>> VERY. >> COMMISSIONER PIRANHA.

>> SO THESE SURVEYS AND I THINK -- PERONA.

>> SO THESE SURVEYS I THINK THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT AND ANONYMOUS SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

MORE IMPORTANT IS WHAT YOU DO WITH THE DATA.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU EXPECT TO DO WITH THE DATA ONCE IT COMES IN AND YOU FIND YOU KNOW A CONSENSUS ON EACH TOPIC THERE AND WHERE IT POINTS WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE INFORMATION GOING FORWARD?

>> WE GO BACK TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND SAY CHIEF, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND. PEOPLE ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE, THEY DON'T LIKE THIS.

NOW YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ENHANCE TRAINING AND TRY TO TRAIN THE OFFICERS BETTER IN CERTAIN ASPECTS THAT THE PUBLIC SEES AS NECESSARY.

>> SO THE CHIEF IS BOUGHT INTO THIS, TOO, AND IS WILLING TO TAKE THIS FROM THAT POINT ON AND MOVE THROUGH HER ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO CORRECT OR AT LEAST IMPROVE SOME OF THESE AREAS?

>> SHE'S ONE OF THE FORCES BEHIND THIS.

SHE WANTS TO KNOW HOW DO THE PEOPLE FEEL.

LOTS OF TIMES YOU HEAR NEGATIVE COMMENTS WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS SURVEY SOME PEOPLE SAY YOU KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE GUYS ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR.

PLUS, WE ADD THE MAP BECAUSE THEN WE CAN PINPOINT WHERE'S THE DISSATISFACTION. DISSATISFACTION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, IT WILL HELP US AS WE MOVE ALONG WITH THE SURVEY

AND YOUR INPUT, TOO. >> THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE CHANGES AND SUGGESTIONS THAT WE GAVE YOU LAST TIME.

I THINK THAT THE SURVEY IS IT'S GOING TO SURFACE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SURFACE. IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE PERCEPTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO ANY GREAT LEADER WANTS TO KNOW THAT ABOUT THEIR DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY, BUT I'M CONCERNED.

I'VE SEEN CITY SURVEYS GO OUT FROM THE CITY AND WE DON'T GET AN INCLUSIVE RESPONSE.

I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED IT GOING PHYSICAL HAVING PHYSICAL SURVEYS SOMEONE HAS TO CALCULATE THAT AND ADD THAT TO WHAT MAY BE COMING IN ELECTRONICALLY.

THERE'S NO GREAT ANSWER I WILL JUST LET YOU KNOW THERE'S NO GREAT ANSWER. CERTAINLY TECHNOLOGY WITH SURVEY MONKEY AND MAYBE THOUGHTS OF HAVING AT CHURCHES THE ABLE FOR THEM TO GO TO TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT LAPTOPS AT A CHURCH TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE SUR-- SURVEY. I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITIES HERE TO MAKE SURE WE GET REPRESENTATION AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THROUGHOUT OUR FORT PIERCE COMMUNITY. SO IF WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HELP THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IN SOME CHURCHES ARE MEETING PHYSICALLY SOME AREN'T.

WE GET THAT. I WANT WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL

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COMMUNITIES ARE REPRESENTED. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE SURVEY AND UNDERSTAND THE QUESTIONS THEN GIVE US THAT RAW FEEDBACK. IT'S MORE THAN WE CAN DO IT WITH THE TECHNOLOGICAL PLATFORMS, THE QUICKER YOU CAN COMPILE THE DATA TAKES ALL THE ONUS AND WORK OFF YOUR COMMITTEE, AND IT GIVES AN UNBIASED APPROACH AND A CALCULATED APPROACH WITH DATA.

IF I CAN GET TO YOU APPLY THIS IT WILL BE EASIER TO UPLOAD TO OUR PLATFORM ON THE WEBSITE AND MAKE SURE IT

GETS OUT THERE. >> THE EXCITING THING IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE RICH HOUSE.

AND BRINGING THE RICH HOUSE IN AND TEACHING THE ELDERLY AND THE YOUNGSTERS HOW TO USE A COMPUTER, HOW TO WORK ON THIS. WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE THE SURVEY ON THAT AND BRING IT TO THERE IT.

>> GIVES THEM ACCESS. THIS VERY A COMPUTER OR SEVERAL COMPUTERS THERE, RIGHT.

BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO FIND A WAY FOR SOME OF THESE CHURCHES AND OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE NUMBER ONE OF THE SURVEY, AND REALLY ENCOURAGE THEM WITH THEIR AUDIENCE OF PEOPLE THAT TRAVERSE THROUGH THEIR DOORS OF THOSE ORGANIZES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO TAKE THIS SURVEY.

I WOULD EVEN ENCOURAGE FURTHER MORE THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE COUNTY LIBRARIES IN CERTAIN AREAS.

WE NEED TO SOLICIT THE COUNTY TO HELP US OVER THERE WITH COMPUTERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA WANT TO TAKE THE SURVEY THAT AT LEAST THEY CAN GO THERE AND TAKE THE SURVEY, RIGHT?

YES, MA'AM. >> PROBABLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE. IN FACT, I NEED TO GO TO A IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT WHERE THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE AND WORK ON. NOT ONLY THAT BUT SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO I ALSO THINK THAT IF THE CHIEF GETS THIS INFORMATION SHE'LL SEE A NEED, SHE'LL SEE WHERE THE NEED IS FOR EDUCATION FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS IMPROVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SHE CAN SEE WHERE THERE ARE HOLES IN I THINK THAT WILL BE VERY ININSTRUCTIVE FOR

HER. >> ONE LAST COMMENT THOUGH, COVID IS REALLY HAMPERED SOME OF THINGS WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH IN THIS PAST YEAR.

IT'S REALLY PUT SORT OF GETTING OUT TO THE CHURCHES BUT THERE'S A LITTLE FEAR OUT THERE.

>> YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT TO WORK AROUND THAT. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT

AREN'T WE. >> WE ARE.

UNFORTUNATELY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. APPRECIATE IT.

>> MADAM MAYOR. THEY WERE ASKING FOR US TO SUPPORT IT OR KIND OF MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY A VOTING ITEM I DON'T BELIEVE.

I WOULD I CONQUER WITH WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WE HAVE TO FIND THE WAYS TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[c. Third Quarter Financial Report]

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE THIRD QUARTER.

>> WE DO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE THAT WILL GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF OUR FINANCIAL POSITION WITH QUARTER OF THE

FISCAL YEAR. >>.

>> EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE OUR EVALUATION REPORT HERE FOR OUR THIRD QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT. AT THE ENDS OF JUNE WE SEE ALL OF OUR FUN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR TWO THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE THE GOLF COURSE AND SUNRISE THEATER ARE POSITIVE AND ON COURSE FOR THE YEAR'S PROJECTIONS.

WE LOOK AT THE FINAL POSITIONS.

YOU SEE A ANYTHING NUMBER THERE FOR THE NET RESOURCES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BUT THAT'S A SO THAT'S WHY I DID NOT NOTICE AS AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO USE IT'S AN BEING ISSUE THERE.

ABOUT 82,000 SHORT. AND THE SUNRISE THEATER.

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THE NET RESOURCES ARE WE DID MAKE A TRANSFER OF $450,000 TO HELP WITH THE NEGATIVE CASH BALANCE THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED FOR DEPOSITS FOR THE 9/30 FISCAL YEAR SO THAT MONEY IS SHOWN IN THE REVENUE NUMBER WHICH ONCE YOU TAKE THAT NUMBER OUT YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE POSITIVE GOES AWAY. BUT WE HAVE TRANSFERRED ANY $450,000 APPROPRIATIONS THIS YEAR AS WELL.

SO WE STILL HAVE THE $450 TO TRANSFER.

HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES ARE GOING TO NET AGAINST THAT SO I DO WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF WHERE THE SUNRISE THEADER IS AT THIS PRESENT -- THEATER IS AT THIS PRESENT TIME.

SHARON IS MONITORING AND I'M MONITORING IT TO SEE HOW CLOSE THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THAT NUMBER.

>> MADAM MAYOR. ONE QUESTION ON THAT.

SO WE TRANSFERRED OUT FPRA AND ALSO GENERAL FUND.

>> FWFPRA AND THAT NUMBER WAS WHAT?

>> $450,000. >> THEY WERE BOTH THE SAME?

>> YES, $225 FROM FPRA AND $225 FROM SUNRISE.

>> NOT $900,000? >> IT NOT $900 FROM FPHRA

BUT $675. >> $450 PLUS, THE $225.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE GRANTS? ALL OF OUR GRANT FUNDS AS WELL HAVE THE ARE IN POSITIVE POSITIONS.

YOU WILL SEE BUT THAT'S AGAIN AS TO FUNDING WHEN THE FUNDING AND DRAWDOWN. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>>> NEXT WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MADAM MAYOR JUST BASED ON SOME DISCUSSION AND THE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC I WOULD LIKE TO PULL -- B.

>> ITEM B, YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Approval of Agreement for Purchase and Development of Fisherman's Wharf with Pierce 1 Marina, LLC which was approved by the FPRA Board on August 10, 2021.]

>> 11 B IS APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND DEVELOPMENT OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF WITH PIERCE 1 MARINA LLC WHICH WAS APPROVED ON AUGST 10ING, 2021.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> MAYOR SO THE QUESTION JUST REVOLVES AROUND THE AGREEMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FPRA MEETING THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A CITY COMMISSION TO BASICALLY RATIFY THIS.

SO IF THERE'S INFORMATION FROM STAFF THAT CAN BE PRESENTED ON THE QUESTION THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH ME.

>> MR. MIMMS. >> THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FROM SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES CONTEMPLATED A LEASE OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. THERE ARE THREE PARCELS INVOLVED, TWO PARCELS FROM THE FP RECREATION A AND ONE PARCEL FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE LEASED.

THAT WAS PRESENTED AT AN FPRA MEETING.

SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF NEGOTIATIONS AND DIFFERENT DRAFTS OF PERSPECTIVE AGREEMENTS, WE ARRIVED AT A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED AT THE AUGUST 2021 CITY COMMISSION MOVING I'M SORRY FPRA BOARD MEETING.

WHERE BY THE -- WOULD PURCHASE THE PARCELS AT A COST OF $5 MILLION THAT WOULD THEN INTERN BE USED THOSE PROCEEDS FROM THAT SALE WOULD BE USED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS APPROVED BY THE FPRA BOARD.

DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD THE PROPROPOSER AND OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER IS GOING TO NEED TO WORK WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ST. LUCIE COUNTY, CITY OF FORT% AND FPRA TO ENSURE THAT THEIR CONCEPTUAL VISION IS REALIZED. NOW, WE ARE ONLY IN CONTROL OF THE FPRA PROPERTIES AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE PROPERTY. WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER THAT IF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY CANNOT BE PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT THEN THEY WILL WORK WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE MUNICIPAL PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE 120 DAY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.

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THEN A 270 DAY APPROVAL PERIOD FOR THE ACQUISITION OF ALL THE NECESSARY SITE DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATORY PERMITS AND NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS THESE PARCELS. SO, MADAM MAYOR.

YOU HAD CONVERSATION WITH IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND IN THE NEGOTIATION PERIOD WHICH WE AUTHORIZED YOU TO DO.

>> YES. >> YOU LEASE AGREEMENT, OBVIOUSLY, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS CHANGE FROM LEASE TO PURCHASE. DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD IS IMPORTANT WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FPRA MEETING ABOUT THE SURVEYS, PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW, SUBMERGED LANDS WHICH I KNOW NO ONE LIKES TO TALK ABOUT.

>> WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL IT WITH.

>> YES, SIR, YES, SIR. >> THEN ALL THE OTHER VARIABLES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO THE REGULATORY AGENCY WITH REGARDING ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT, THE GROUP WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

IS THAT ACCURATE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

SO. >> SO WE ALSO BUILT IN A NUMBER OF SAFEGUARDS ALONG THE WAY.

>> YES. >> TO MAKE SURE THAT PERFORMANCE BY THE PROPOSER IS WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE

GOING TO DO IS WHAT THEY DO. >> YES, MA'AM.

WITH THE CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY THERE WILL COME A REVISION -- REVERSIONARY CLAUSE IN THE DEED.

NOW, UPON THE TIME THAT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER -- DEVELOPMENT PARTNER SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES OR PIERCE 1 THEY COME BACK TO US AND SAY OKAY ARE WE HAVE ACQUIRED CONSTRUCTION LOAN FINANCING. WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION THEN THAT REVISIONARY CLAUSE WILL BE REMOVED THEN THE PERFORMANCE BONDING BY THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER WILL BASICALLY TAKE ITS PLACE.

THAT'S GOING ACT AS SOME INSURANCE FOR THE OWNER AT THAT POINT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE

APPROVED SITE PLAN. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MADAM MAYOR I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER JENKINS I KNOW THERE'S SOME WORRY WE'RE IN A WEIRD SPOT BECAUSE USUALLY GOVERNMENTS ACQUIRING PROPERTY NOT SELLING PROPERTY. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL PROCESS.

BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

I CAN UNDERSTAND AS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER HAVING SOME CONCERN OR JUST REALIZING THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE POTENTIALLY. BUT I MEAN I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AS THE CITY COMMISSION SEAT AND AS A FPRA SEAT. WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE

FORWARD. >> MA'AM.

>> YES, SIR, COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATIONS GOING FORWARD, ETC. ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE PROPOSER'S EXPLANATION THAT THEY WILL REACH OUT TO THE PRIVATE PARTNERS AND THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED. IT'S BEEN A DISCOMFORT TO THINK WE'RE DOING THIS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHATEVER ELSE IS IN THAT AREA. BUT WE'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

EVERY TIME ONE OF THE JENKINS COMES TO THE PODIUM AND SAYS NOBODY HAS TALKED TO US.

IT'S A LITTLE DISCONCERNING FOR US.

THEIR ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY

YEARS. >> VERY POPULAR.

>> IT HAS MY WELL, IT HAS MY VOTE FOR BEING THE BEST RESTAURANT IN TREASURE COAST BUT THAT'S JUST MY VOTE.

AND I WOULD HATE JUST BECAUSE OF THASH I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE ARE PART OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYONE, AT LEAST AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME PART OF IT OR AT LEAST HAVE AN EXPLANATION THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE ON IN THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'VE HAD WITHOUT ANY MAJOR INTERRUPTION. SO WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT THROUGHOUT PROCESS AND THAT COMFORT LEVEL FROM THE PROPOSERS AND I'M JUST BEFORE THE FINAL GAVEL COMES DOWN I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAS

HAPPENED. >> WE TALKED ABOUT IT AS RECENTLY AS FPRA MEETING. WE BROUGHT THAT UP.

WE WANTED ASSURANCES. >> I THINK THE OTHER THING IT'S ON THE, IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL PARTIES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE 12 A BUOY TO REMAIN 12 A BUOY TO BE SUCCESSFUL THE NEW PROJECT AND ALL OF ITS ELEMENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL LET'S MAKE IT A COHESIVE RELATIONSHIP. IT'S JUST GOING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S ALL.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE

SECOND RIGHT, I THINK. >> ARE WE READY TO VOTE.

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

[a. Presentation and Public Hearing on the 2021 Annual Action Plan Draft.]

HEARINGS. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS PRESENTATION AND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2021 ANNUAL

ACTION PLAN DRAFT. >> GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR HUDSON, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

>> TONIGHT WE ARE PRESENTING THE 2021 ACTION PLAN FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.

LAST, I THINK IT JULY 19ING, WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2020 ACTION PLAN. SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME CATEGORIES AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPOSED EXPENDITURES.

OKAY. SO, AN -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL RECEIVE A TOTAL OF $574,173 FROM HUD FOR OUR BLOCK FUNDS AND WE PROPOSE TO SPEND THESE FUNDS AS FOLLOWS. IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 110,000, BROKEN DOWN AS YOU SEE HERE 20,000 FOR JOB FAIR AND LINCOLN PARK BUSINESS EXPO.

$30,000 FOR MARKETING, ADVERTISING, FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANTS.

$30,000 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, GRANTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.

AND $30,000 FOR SMALL BUSINESS EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND SMALL BUSINESS START-UPS.

IN THE AREA OF PUBLIC SERVICES, WE PROPOSE TO SPEND $60,000 BROKEN INTO $10,000 FOR GRANTS FOR NONPROFITS FOR THE S.P.A. GRANTS I'M SORRY GRANTS FOR NONPROFITS AND OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND $50,000 FOR THE P.S.A. GRANTS.

THAT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN THE 20% CAP THAT HUD GIVES US FOR THIS CATEGORY. FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES THE TOTAL PROPOSED IS $50,000 TO BE SPENT ON IMPROVEMENTS FOR PLAYGROUNDS, PARKS, AND PUBLIC FACILITIES AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY GARDENS. $60,000 IN THE AREA OF OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING REHAB. THAT WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN AS $20,000 FOR WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS, AND $40,000 FOR THE WORLD CHANGERS AND PAINT OUR TOWN PROGRAMS. IN THE AREA OF NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURE WOULD BE $179,339 BROKEN INTO 49, 339 FOR THE PROMOTION OF LOCAL ARTS AND CULTURE.

$30,000 FOR COMMERCIAL FACADE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT GRANTS. AND $100,000 FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT-BASED ORGANIZATIONS.

THE MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE AND THE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET ORGANIZATIONS. UNDER OUR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION. WE INTEND ON SPENDING NO MORE THAN 114,000,834 AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE MANAGEMENT COORDINATION OVERSIGHT OF THE CDBG PROGRAM AND FAIR HOUSING WORKSHOPS.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> QUESTIONS FOR MISS WISE. >> NO.

WE'RE GOOD. >> THE 2021 ACTION PLAN CAN BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THERE IS THE LINK TO THE WEBSITE.

NOW WE CAN HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYOE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEE NO ONE I CLOSE THE UBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>>> OKAY. WE MOVE ONTO OUR

[b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for Conditional Use with No New Construction submitted by Property Owner, School Board of St. Lucie County Florida, and Representative, HJA Design Studio, to operate a self-storage business at 4204 Okeechobee Road in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned General Commercial Zone (C-3). Parcel ID: 2418-434-0001-000-9]

QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS FIRST WE AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER SCHOOL BOARD OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND REPRESENTATIVE H.J.A. DESIGN STUDIO TO OPERATE A SELF-STORAGE BUSINESS AT 4204 OKEECHOBEE ROAD IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED

GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE C-3. >> ALL RIGHTY, WE HAVE SEVERAL QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS SO I'M GOING TO ASK MISS EARLY IF YOU WILL READ THE KIND OF OUR GUIDELINES FOR HOW WE OPERATE THE QUASI-JUDICIAL.

PLEASE EVERYBODY LISTEN IF YOU HAVE A QUASI-JUDICIAL

HEARING LATER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

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THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAW MAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION APPLIES THOSE LAWS AND POLICIES AND IS HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS.

QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING.

QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

THEREFORE, COMMISSIONER HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS. THIS IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION OR THE CITY DIERK DURING THE HEARING.

IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK PLEASE GIVE THEM TO SERGEANT AT ARMS WHICH IS ONE OF THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER.

THANK YOU. >> SO POLICE PROCEEDINGS ARE NOW IN ORDER. MADAM CLARK HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM.

>> THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM.

AT THIS TIME WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS. >> YES, MA'AM COMMISSIONER

C. JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MET WITH THE APPLICANT. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM, MET WITH THE APPLICANT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OTHER COMMUNITY

RESIDENTS. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> YES, MA'AM, APPLICANT AND

SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE. >> MADAM CLERK, WOULD --

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.

>>> SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HEARING AND SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO SWEAR IN WITNESSES.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND

AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

>> I DO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> PLEASE PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4204 OKEECHOBEE ROAD. CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY COMMERCIAL WITH ZONING OF C-3. TO OPERATE A 1,290 UNIT SELF-STORAGE BUSINESS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IT IS CONSISTENT.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125-237 IT DOES NOT ADVERSITY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND CONVENIENCE AND PLANNING BOARD VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SITE PLAN THE USE WILL BE INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING IT AND WILL NOT CHANGE THE LOOK OR CHARACTER OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE. IS ALSO A MASTER H.O.A. THAT GOVERNS THE SITE THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPDATING OF ALL LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING AND IN COOPERATION AND COORDINATION WHY THE AM CAN.

APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO BRINGING THE BUILDING UP TO BUILDING CODES AND THAT THE BUILDING IS COMPLIANT WITH FLOOD PROTECTION STANDARDS.

THE ENTIRE ORANGE BLOSSOM SITE CONTAINS ABOUT 800 PARKING SPACES. IT'S JUST A FLOOR PLAN TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO ON THE INSIDE HOW THEY WILL LAY OUT THESE STORAGE UNITS.

>> THE PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON JULY 14ING, 2021 VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. 13 LETTERS WERE FAILED OFF TO PROPERTY OWNERS 500 FEET. TOO DATE WE HAVE RECEIVED NO LETTERS OR NO COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION, I'M GOING TO NOTE THAT AT THE PLANNING BOARD STAFF FORWARDED THIS PROJECT WITH NO CONDITIONS BUT PURSUANT TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD AT PLANNING BOARD THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS NOW REQUESTED THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PUT THE FOLLOWING CONDITION ON THE PROJECT. THIS STRUCTURE WAS DAMAGED IN HURRICANE IRMA IN 2017 TO DATE A SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE DETERMINATION WAS NOT COMPLETED.

PURSUANT TO ACTION 109.5 D OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THE APPLICANT SHALL CO-ORDINATE AND COMPLETE AN INSPECTION OF THE STRUCTURE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL. IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE STRUCTURE IS SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED OR HAS BEEN IMPROVED THE STRUCTURE SHALD COMPLY WITH CURRENT FLOOD REGULATIONS. ALL PERMITTING FOR THIS TENANT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SHALL BE SUBJECT OR SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE FORT PIERCE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSION ARE TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THIS NEW

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CONDITION BY STAFF, AND AS THE PLANNING VOTE VOTED 6-0 YOU CAN APPROVE WITH ALTERNATE CHANGES OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> NO, MAYOR, I'LL START. >> GO BACK TO THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION FOR ME IF YOU COULD.

YOU HAD IN YOUR PRESENTATION A BOUNDARY OF THE ENTIRE WESTERN UNIT THERE. I SAW SOMETHING IN THE

DESCRIPTION AS 1290 FEET. >> NO IT'S UNITS.

I SAW SQUARE FEET SOMEWHERE. THAT DOESN'T ADD UP.

MR. THOMAS IS HERE. IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION OF YOU. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INSPECTION DOES THAT INVOLVE YOU AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR WHAT DOES THAT INSPECTION ENTAIL?

THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. >> IT'S AN INSPECTION IS IT'S TO VERIFY FLOOD REQUIREMENTS.

EXCUSE ME. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, THE BUILDING WE WERE INFORMED, OBVIOUSLY, THAT THE BUILDING WAS DAMAGED DURING THE FLOODING OF 2017. THERE WAS PERMISSION GIVEN AT THAT TIME TO DO THE DEMO JUST ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THE FLOOD DAMAGE. BUT WE HAVE NEVER BEEN INFORMED SUBSEQUENT TO THAT OF THE FULFILLING OF THE REQUIREMENT TO EITHER BRING IT BACK TO THE CONDITION THAT IT WAS BEFORE THE FLOOD OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO MODIFY THIS AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THAT FLOOD EVALUATION HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED AND IT'S REQUIRED BY FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT IT MUST BE COMPLETED. SO BASICALLY THIS CONDITION IS NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY'VE AGREED TO DO IT.

WE PUT THE CONDITION IN JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS OR THERE WAS YOU KNOW THAT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUSINESS PLAN BEFORE THEY ADDRESSED THE FLOOD MITIGATION ISSUE OR THE FLOOD DETERMINATION ISSUE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE OR SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT.

>> SO THIS INSPECTION IS JUST GOING TO SAY YES WE NEED TO DO THIS WORK, YES WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE, OR IS IT GOING TO BE AN EXHAUSTIVE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO

FOR FLOOD MITIGATION? >> NO, REALLY, IT'S TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE IS RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE PERMISSION WAS GIVEN TO DO A MEASURE OF DEMO BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM 2017 TO 2021.

SO WE KNOW SOME DEMO WAS DONE.

WAS IT REPAIRED ALL THE WAY, IS IT STILL IN THAT CONDIION WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE OR IMPROVEMENT

PROCESS. >> OKAY.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FLOOD MITIGATION PARAMETERSPTHAS DONE BY THE OTHER OWNER OCCUPANT OF THIS ENTIRE STRUCTURE HERE. DID THAT COVER THE EXTERIOR

OF THIS AREA AT ALL? >> IT DID NOT.

BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE ST. LUCIE ST.

SCHOOL BOARD THEY DETERMINED THEY WERE GOING TO DO THEIR OWN PROJECT AND THEY DID NOT GO WITH THE OTHER HALF OR THE ORANGE BLOSSOM BUSINESS CENTER.

>> DID THAT OTHER MITIGATION PROJECT DID IT ENTERTAIN OR CONTEMPLATE OR INVOLVE WORK DONE ON ANY PART OF LIKE FIVE MILE CREEK OR ANY SWELLS OR DITCHES?

>> NO FLOOD MITIGATION PLAN IS STRICTLY THE BUILDING.

>> BUILDING ITSELF. >> I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY THAT THIS IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT?

>> YES FEMA REQUIRES THE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.

>> SO THIS CONDITION, THIS CONDITION IS A IS SATISFYING

A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT? >> YES.

WE HAVE THE LOCAL ORDINANCES WHERE WE'VE LOCALLY ADOPTED THIS AS OUR LAW. BUT IT GOES TO THE STATE DE.M. DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND

ALSO FEMA. >> OKAY.

>> YES. >> QUICK QUESTION.

SO THIS ACTUAL BUILDING INSPECTION IS GOING TO ASSURE ALSO THE SURETY OF THE FOUNDATION AND ALL THAT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DAMAGED WILL YOU BE GIVEN AN

ASSESSMENT ON THAT. >> NO.

I NEED BE CLEAR ON. THAT IN LIGHT OF THINGS HAPPENED OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE A STRUCTURE THAT'S WILL CONTAIN ITEMS AT SOME POINT, RIGHT.

AND PROBABLY PEOPLE IN THERE AT SOME POINT VISITING OR REMOVING OR PLACING THINGS IN THERE.

SO WE DON'T GET INTO THAT MR. THOMAS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR PEOPLE THAT'S WATCHING THIS AS WELL?

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ANY TIME THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRUCTURAL EVALUATION THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT ENGINEER.

BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER PUT THE CITY AT RISK OF MAKING A DETERMINATION AND THEN BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

THT'S GOING TO COME FROM SOMEONE ELSE AND THEY'RE GOING TO SIGN AND SEAL IT AND VERIFY AND BACK IT WITH THEIR LICENSE. THIS DETERMINATION OR THIS INSPECTION IS STRICTLY TO DOTHEN THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING AS IT DEALS WITH THE DAMAGE THAT HAPPENED IN

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2017. WHAT DOES THE BUILDING PHYSICALLY LOOK LIKE RIGHT THIS MINUTE.

WHAT'S THE SNAPSHOT FOR THAT DETERMINATION.

NOT STRUCTURAL. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT BASED OFF OF THE 1200 UNITSPTHAY BE LOOKING TO DEMOLISH THE WHOLE SIDE AND REFORM AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT THAT TAKES THE DETERMINATION FROM A SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE ISSUE TO A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT ISSUE. IT'S PRETTY INVOLVED PROCESS. BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY DO THAT AND THAT THAT GETS DONE BECAUSE IT IMPLICATES OUR C.R.S. RATING.

THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE WAY WE HANDLE THESE THINGS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND EXPLANATION. THANK YOU.

>> MR. PERONA. >> I SEE ON THE DOD LINE THE SUBJECT SITE DOES THAT -- DOTTED LINE THE SURGE SITE DOES THAT INCLUDE PARKING? IS THERE CONSIDERED A DESIGNATED PARKING FOR THIS BUSINESS OPERATION OR IS IT JUST COMMON PARKING NO MATTER WHAT?

>> SO THE SUBJECT SITE THAT YOU SEE THAT'S DOTTED THAT IS THE PROPERTY OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

SO THAT PARKING WOULD BE INCLUDED.

BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARKING IS SHARED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SITE. SO IN THEORY SOMEBODY COULD USE PARKING ON THE OTHER SITE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ONE

MASTER LIKE H.O.A. >> MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, THIS WAS SEARS AT ONE TIME?

>> I BELIEVE SO, YES. >> SO THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STILL BIG GARAGE DOORS IN THE BACK TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE STORAGE ISSUES RATHER THAN DRAG IT THROUGH A SMALL DOORWAY AND STUFF LIKE THAT? SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT STILL EXISTS?

>> YES, I BELIEVE THEY DO. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF

STAFF? >> OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR.

>> AFTERNOON MICHAEL HOUSTON WITH H.D.A. DESIGN STUDIO.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF FROM THEIR

PRESENTATION? >> I DO NOT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PROCEED. >> FIRST LET ME COMPLIMENT STAFF ON THE PRESENTATION WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. WE'RE HERE TODAY AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO A COUPLE KEY THINGS THAT, AND, OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE ALL ON YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD SET FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND BRING IT BACK INTO THE TAX ROLLS. IT GENERATES LESS TRAFFIC, SUBSTANTIALLY LESS TRAFFIC. IT'S THE USE OF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT QUITE FRANKLY AND MARTY SANDERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE UP TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND HAS BEEN IMPROVED. THERE'S A COOLING SYSTEM THAT'S STATE OF THE ART. THE ROLLUP DOORS, COMMISSIONER, COUNCILMEMBER, ARE AS THEY WERE SO THERE'S SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

WE FULLY EXPECT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE NEW OWNERS IN THE REST OF THE MALL IN IMPROVEMENT.

SOME OF THE FUTURE OF THE AREA THAT'S A SUBJECT SITE MIGHT BE PART OF THAT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST HERE FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE. THE CONDITION THAT WAS ADDED TODAY I WOULD LIKE, IF WE COULD TO HAVE MARTIN SANDERS WHO PROBABLY KNOWS THIS BUILDING AND THE PROCESS OF THE FLOOD MITIGATION BETTER THAN ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THAT AND MAYBE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIME FRAMES THAT STAFF WAS LOOKING FOR.

>> SIR, I FORGOT TO CONFIRM THAT YOU WERE SWORN IN.

>> I WAS. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MARTY SANDERS I'M THE GROWTH MANAGER DIRECTOR FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. I'VE BEEN --

>> YOU ARE SWORN IN. >> I WAS, THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FACILITY SINCE I CAME TO WORK AT THE SCHOOL BOARD IN 2002.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WILL JUST ADD ABOUT THE BUILDING.

FIRST THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS THEIR OWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AS PART OF THE STATUTE ALLOWS TO US BE OUR OWN BUILDING OFFICIAL THAT'S WHY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS NOT SEEN THE ANY RENOVATION OF THIS PROJECT. WE BUILT A BRAND NEW BUILDING WE DO ALL OUR OWN INSPECTIONS, IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT ANY OTHER BUILDING OFFICIAL LOOK AT IT. SO, I THINK THE APPLICANT IS WELL AWARE THAT WITH HIS RENOVATIONS IT WILL REQUIRE A NEW BUILDING PERMIT WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ASSOCIATED FLOOD PROOFING. THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FLOOD PROOFING BECAUSE INSURANCE IS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND THEY'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT INSURED.

BUT, WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO SEE THE DAMAGES DONE, WHAT'S THE ESTIMATES

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WHICH WILL CHANGE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A NEW PLAN AND WHAT WAS DONE FOR RENOVATION. AFTER IRENE YOU KNOW WE WERE FLOODED. WE DEMOED THE BUILDING.

WE HAD CERTIFIED HYGIENIST COME IN AND YOU KNOW SWAB OUR BUILDING MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REMEDIAL MOLD OR ALL. THAT WE HAVE INSURANCE CLAIMS WE HAVE ALL THOSE RECORDS THAT MAKES IT REAL SIMPLE FOR YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PAST DAMAGE IS AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO THRESHOLD INTO, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE MITIGATION WHICH I'M SURE IT WILL BASED UPON THE HISTORY THAT I THINK WE SPENT $7.8 MILLION ON FLOOD DAMAGE WHEN WE WERE FLOODED

IN FORGETTING THE YEAR. >> 2017.

>> 2008. >> 2007 WITH THAT UNNAMED TRAIN OF STORMS THAT WENT THROUGH THERE.

WE'VE -- WE KNOW IT WELL. THAT'S, GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE SEGREGATION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN BUILDING DEPARTMENTS SO THAT'S WHY THE CITY HASN'T SEEN IT.

AND I THINK SEVEN DAYS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT QUICK TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE OPEN IT'S GOING TO BE THE APPLICANT'S ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY BUT ULTIMATELY YOU KNOW WE PROBABLY WON'T CLOSE WITH THE NEW APPLICANT FOR 45 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE MAY WANT A LITTLE LONGER TIME FRAME SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY.

>> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS OF EITHER ONE OF THESE GENTLEMEN? COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> SO HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE ENVISIONED IN THIS NEW

OPERATION? >> IT WILL VARY BUT THEY WILL BE PART-TIME PEOPLE INVOLVE WITH DIFFERENT

ASPECTS. >> OKAY.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE PARKING OUT THERE. THERE'S NOTHING, I MEAN, YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP IT PARKING RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT HAS FACES OKEECHOBEE, IT MAY HAVE A VALUE OF AN OUTPARCEL.

HAS THAT BEEN ARREST CONSIDERED AT ALL?

>> IT HAS BUT WITH THE -- HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED AT

ALL? >> IT HAAS BUT WITH THE LIMITATIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS IN PLACE THAT'S A FUTURE DISCUSSION BUT WE CERTAINLY SEE IT AS A POTENTIAL.

OBVIOUSLY, TRYING TO ADD VALUE TO THE PIECES IS THE GOAL OF ANY DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN LOOK TO THE FUTURE ON THAT SIDE. THE OPERATIONS WILL ALL HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE OF THE DOORS, BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS POINTS.

SO THAT PARKING PROBABLY WILL BE UNUSED.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> DID I UNDERSTAND MR. SANDERS TO SAY YOU WERE ASKING FOR MORE TIME THAN SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE COMMISSIONER APPROVAL IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR?

>> I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT. WE WERE HOPING TO GET MORE LIKE THREE WEEKS. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET SOME THINGS KIND OF ORGANIZED.

BUT AS MARTY SAID AND MARTY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HE'S BEEN A KEY PART OF THIS PROJECT.

WE FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO RESPOND.

>> MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANTS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION AND MR. THOMAS YOU ARE UNDER OATH SO CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR US PLEASE.

>> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO TWO ISSUES. NUMBER ONE MR. SANDERS IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS THERE ARE TWO JURISDICTIONS. THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS UNDER THEIR OWN JURISDICTION THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FACTUAL. THAT'S WHY THE LANGUAGE PUT INTO THE CONDITION THAT THIS APPLICANT IS GOING TO PERMIT NOT THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARDS BUILDING DEPARTMENT BUT THROUGH THE FORT PIERCE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEIR ACTIVITIES THIS IS A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY AT THIS POINT IT IS

-- >> IT WON'T BE AT SOME

POINT. >> EXACTLY.

BUT THE FACT THAT EVEN IF IT'S SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY IF IT'S NOT FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD ITSELF OR FOR SCHOOL FUNGS THEN IT DOESN'T QUALIFY TO GO THROUGH THEIR BUILDING DEPARTMENT. SECONDARILY, THERE'S ONLY ONE FLOOD PLAIN ADMINISTRATOR FOR EACH JURISDICTION. AND THAT'S IN THETY OF FORT PIERCE THAT IS ME, THAT'S WHY -- THAT'S ME.

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EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN WORK US THAT DONE IT STILL HAS TO BE REPORTED TO THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

MR. SANDERS AND I WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

IF HE HAS THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED BY ALL MEANS WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED, YOU KNOW THE EVALUATION.

THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO DO A FLOOD MITIGATION PLAN WHICH REALLY RESOLVES THE ISSUE FOR ESSENTIAL DAMAGE, SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT. I DON'T FORESEE ANY DIFFICULTIES THAT WILL COME FROM IT.

ABOUT THRUT ARE DEFINITE PROCEDURES AND PROCESSES THAT HAVE TO PLAY OUT EXACTLY SO IN ORDER FOR

INDEMNIFY THE CITY. >> SO MY QUESTION WAS SEVEN

DAYS IS THAT -- >> I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH SEVEN DAYS. I WOULD ALSO BE COMFORTABLE FOR A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME. ULTIMATELY, IT BOILS DOWN TO WE WANT TO WALK THROUGH THIS SPACE TO SEE WHAT THE

CONDITION IS NOW. >> AS SOON AS YOU CAN.

>> AS SOON AS WE CAN. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO CHANGE. IF IT HAS BEEN RENOVATED WE'LL JUST TAKE PICTURES AND SAY HERE'S WHAT IT IS.

IF IT STILL IS IN THE DEMOLISHED SITUATION THEN WE JUST WANT TO SEE THAT. SEVEN DAYS, THREE WEEKS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SEE THE SAME THING IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. EARLIER THE BETTER FOR US.

>> EARLIERER THE BETTER. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO NOW I'M CLOSING OFF WE

ARE DISCUSSING. >> COUPLE COMMENTS.

I'M OKAY WITH EITHER CONDITION.

I THINKLY WEEKS WILL BE FINE ALSO.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET YOU ON-SITE HERE AND GET YOU THE RELEVANT INFORMATION MR. SANDERS TALKED BY THE.

HE HAS INFORMATION FOR YOU SOMEONE HAS INFORMATION FOR YOU. AND YOU WANTED TO BE WELL-INFORMED AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE PARCEL.

IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE OR WHEREVER YOU HAD THE PICTURE WITH THE THREE LITTLE BULLET POINTS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE FOUR BULLET POINTS YOU KNOW ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS TAKING THE 70S AND 80S DESIGNS AND PAVED PARADISE THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT AND I'VE ALWAYS CALLED THAT IT THAT WAS JUST A WAY OF DESIGN AND THE WAY YOU BUILD THINGS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GUY.

YOU KNOW, BULLET POINT NUMBER TWO IS IMPORTANT FOR ME IS THAT THE MASTER H.O.A. WHICH THERE ARE GOING TO BE APART OF YOU KNOW IS GOING TO WORK ON AND HOPEFULLY WORK ON SOON UPDATING LANDSCAPING.

IN COORDINATION WITH THE APPLICANT.

SO WE CAN IMPROVE SOME OF THIS.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR CORRIDORS COMING INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, OKEECHOBEE ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TAKE PLACE.

ANOTHER HISTORY ABOUT THIS I LOOKED INTO A WHILE BACK THIS WAS ONLY HALF OF THE MALL THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT WHEN IT WENT THROUGH ST. LUCIE COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 400 OR 400,000 SQUARE FEET A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, A LITTLE LESS WHICHEVER WAY. I THINK THE ORIGINAL WAS SOMEWHERE AT 750 OR 800,000 TOTAL SQUARE FEET.

THREE OR FOUR MORE -- WHICH WAY WAS IT GOING TO GO?

>> ALL DIRECTIONS. ALL DIRECTIONS.

IT WAS THE OLD 1980S MALL CONCEPT WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT JUTTED OUT, INCLUDING MOVIE THEATERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IF YOU LOOK BACK.

SO ANYWAY, IT'S JUST WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS, ADAPT IT FOR USE OR CHANGE OF USE AND PUT SOME FOLKS HERE.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO AND THEY WILL BE.

SEE WHAT CAN HAPPEN NEXT. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA? >> SO I HAD HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THIS IN THE BUILDING.

AS ONE OF OUR ECONOMIC CORRIDORS AS YOU POINTEDDED OUT COMMISSIONER, I GET UPSET EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT SELF-STORAGE, ARCADES AND DOLLAR STORES.

I MEAN WE ARE MORE THAN THAT, OKAY, OBJECTION.

WE ARE MORE THAN THAT -- OKAY, FOLKS, WE ARE MORE THAN. THAT BUT MR. SANDERS SETTLED ME DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND MADE ME LOOK AT THE BIG PLAN. I REMEMBER WHEN THIS MALL WAS BUILT AND ITS GRAND OPENING WASN'T TOO LONG AFTER THE GRAND OPENING WE HAD A RAIN STORMS HAPPENED ALL OVER THE PLACE. I'M OUT THERE AS A YOUNG GUY WORKING IN THE CAR BUSINESS WE'RE PULLING CARS OUT OF THE WATER LEFT AND RIGHT. IT WAS A DISASTER TO BEGIN WITH. SO WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH WAYS THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT PUTTING LARGE PART OF OUR POPULATION THERE ARE A LOT OF MOBILES, A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN SOMETHING THAT ISN'T WORKING. IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY AND STILL CAN PROVIDE ENOUGH ECONOMIC PUSH TO MAKE IT RELEVANT I WAS CHALLENGED WITH TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS. THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. SANDERS FOR BEATING THAT INTO MY HEAD.

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HE TO STATE THE FACT THAT ORIGINALLY I JUST, I'M SENSITIVE ABOUT THIS. THOSE THREE THINGS RIGHT NOW HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH ME. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THEM LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.

>> EXACTLY. I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. I WENT FULL CIRCLE AND I DO APPRECIATE AND THE APPLICANT THERE WAS TO ANSWER A LOT OF

THE QUESTIONS ALSO. >> I JUST MIGHT ADD A COMMENT ON. THIS I ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE YOU THE COMMISSIONER PERONA.

I APPRECIATED THE CREATIVITY OF TAKING AN AREA THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD LEFT AND MOVED TO ANOTHER AREA AND WAS JUST SITTING THERE. I THINK THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED AT WHAT CREATIVITY THIS SPURS IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND I JUST IMAGINE THAT THERE WE'VE HAD TENANTS IN AND OUT OF THAT BUILDING.

THE FARTHER EAST OR IT'S VACANT RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS I KNOW. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED AT THE CREATIVITY THIS WILL BRING TO AN AREA.

OBVIOUSLY WITH THAT CORRIDOR WE'RE SEEING GROWTH IN HOMES, IN PEOPLE MOVING HERE. I THINK IT'S VERY CREATIVE TO KNOW GUESS MOVING IN FROM OTHER AREAS BRING LARGE FURNITURE IT AND DOESN'T ALL FIT IN THESE HOMES THAT THEY BUILT. THAT ECONOMIC PLAN GETS US BACK ON A TAX ROLL HERE. I THINK BECAUSE I'M REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE SETBACK OF HOW FAR THIS IS FROM THAT MAIN CORRIDOR COMMISSIONER PERONA.

I THINK WITH ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND SOME CREATIVITY THAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY LIGHT THE FACADE OF IT I HEARD SOME THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IT MAY JUST REALLY ADD TO AN AREA RIGHT NOW THAT'S SOMEWHAT KIND OF YOU PASS BY AND DON'T KNOW IT'S THERE.

I THINK WE'LL SEE A LOT MORE COMING FORTH OUT OF THIS.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE.

I THINK PEOPLE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING JUST WAITING FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN AND THIS IS ANOTHER DOMINO THAT'S FALLING IN THIS AREA I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO PROVIDING THAT TO PROVIDING THAT RESOURCE AND GETTING THIS BACK ON THE FORT PIERCE CITY TAX ROLE. I ECHO THAT.

I GUESS WE AS A SIGH AS WE'RE ALL AGING ARE DON'T WANT GET RID OF OUR STUFF, RIGHT? WE JUST APPROVED SORJ I GUESS IT'S A BUSINESS THAT PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED IS GOING TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEM.

SO, GORE FOR THEM. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I WANT TO GO TO THE LAST SCREEN THERE.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TO APPROVE WITH THE OWN CHANGE TO BE FROM SEVEN DAYS TO 21 DAYS FOR THE INSPECTION

PROCESS. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SO THE NEXT WE HAVE THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of application for Waiver of Distance submitted by Property Owner Bamboo Palms, and Representative Architectonic Inc., to operate a 1,130 sq ft Amusement Arcade Center with 22 arcade machines at 1717 S US Highway 1 in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned General Commercial Zone (C-3). Parcel ID(s): 2415-311-0004-000-3, 2415-311-0004-010-6.]

APPLICATION FOR WAIVER OF DISTANCE SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER BAMBOO PALMS AND REPRESENTATIVE ARK TECTONIC AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE CENTER WITH 22 ARCADE MACHINES AT 1717 SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 IN FORT PIERCE.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED GENERAL COMETH C-3.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO WE HAVE READ THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEDURE. HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET

FOR THIS ITEM? >> ADVERTISING NOR ITEM HAS

BEEN MET. >> WOULD ASK YOU COMMISSIONERS ABOUT PEAKS MAYOR HUDSON.

NO MA'AM. >> WOULD YOU SWEAR IN THE

WITNESSES PLEASE. >> IF YOU WOULD STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE

TRUTH? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WHEN YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS CLEARLY FOR THE RECORDS AND CONFIRM THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE. PROCEED STAFF.

>> GOOD EVENING FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY 1717 SOUTH

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U.S. HIGHWAY 1. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OHIO AVENUE.

>> AND A ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 2.88 ACRES AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL 15 SPACES THE FLOOR PLAN WILL CONSIST OF AN OFFICE, TWO RESTROOMS AND 22 ARCADE MACHINES. PER CITY CODE SECTION 125-325 CITY COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE SIX STANDARDS FOR REVIEW. THE AS FAR AS THE WAIVER OF DISTANCE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE WAIVER'S DISTANCE OF TWO ARCADES WHICH IS.

>> IF I CAN STOP YOU. I DIDN'T READ THE EXPECTED AGENDA ITEM. SO THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IF YOU WANT TO DO THEM TOGETHER.

>> OH, OKAY, I'M SORRY. THEY NEED.

>> I THINK THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE.

>> THEY WILL BE SEPARATE MOTIONS.

SORRY. >> THIS FOR THE SECOND MOTION IT WILL BE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE BUT NO NEW CONSTRUCTION.

STAFF MEMBERS APPROVAL WITH THREE CONDITIONS.

CITY CODE -- YOU NEED TO GO BACK.

WE WON'T DO THE CONDITIONAL USE RIGHT NOW.

>> WE WILL STOP AT THE WAIVER OF DISTANCE.

THANK YOU. >> NO PROBLEM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. GILMORE FOR THE WAIVER OF DISTANCE IS THE APPLICANT HERE.

IF THE AM CAN COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

>> MIKE MENARD. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> WE ARE SWORN IN I SAW

YOU. >> YES.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MENARD? NO. NO, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE

COME FORWARD. >> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

>> IT'S READY. IT'S FINE.

>> SILENCE DOES NOT MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABE.

I KNOW YOU ARE ALL THINKING.

>> WHY THERE IS A PREVIOUS SLIDE TO THIS ONE HERE?

>> THE LOCATION. IN RELATION THIS IS WHAT --

I HAVE IT ON HERE. >> GOTCHA.

SO QUICK QUESTION I THINK WITH STAFF NOW.

MADAM MAYOR. SO, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUILDING. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES LOCATED WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT. AND THIS PARTICULAR ENTITY LOOKING TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE SLIP ORS BAYS IN THERE AND PUT THIS BUSINESS IN THERE. IS THAT CORRECT.

>> CORRECT. >> AND BASED ON THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CHALLENGES WITH ORDINANCES OF BUSINESSES AND PROXIMITY TO WHAT THIS IS OR ANY CHALLENGES WITH THAT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

>> WE DON'T HAVE A CHURCH NEXT DOOR OR SOMETHING OF

THAT NATURE, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

IT'S JUST A DISTANCE FROM OTHER ARCADES.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> SO WE DO HAVE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT 1250 RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. >> SO WHAT DOES THAT PROVIDE? I MEAN, YOU CAN GIVE US A GENERAL IDEA WHY IS THERE A 1250 DISTANCE REQUIREMENT

BETWEEN LIKE BUSINESSES? >> I HONESTLY CAN'T ANSWER.

THAT I WOULD ASSUME MAYBE TO PREVENT CLUSTERING OF

ARCADES. >> SO, IF IT IS CLUSTERING, AND I KNOW IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD TALK ABOUT SECURITY, ABOUT ACTIVITY IT WAS PRETTY MUCH A NEW LING FOR US FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY MEETING WE HAVE AN ARCADE GOING FORWARD. AND MY PREVIOUS DISCUSSION I

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MAY HAVE GIVEN THEM A BAD WRAP THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY A BAD WRAP. I THINK THEY'RE INDICATIVE OF WHAT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE COMMUNITY IT'S WHAT THEY WANT. IT'S THEIR ENTERTAINMENT.

BUT IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF CONCERN FOR SECURITY AND WE'RE LUMPING THEM ALL TOGETHER THEN IT MAY BE A BIGGER DEAL THAN THAT. THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE I WOULD HAVE IN ANY TYPE OF WAIVER OF DISTANCE.

IS THAT IF SO THERE WILL BE THREE WITHIN 1250 FEET OF

ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

>> SO I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD BECAUSE THERE'S NO HISTORY ON THAT TO SAY THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE A HEALTH WELFARE OR A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE RETICENT RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. IF WE HAD THAT INFORMATION.

>> MR. MENARD. >> I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS ARE FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE NOT FROM DOOR-TO-DOOR.

BECAUSE IF THE GATEWAY ARCADE IS LITERALLY RIGHT BEHIND A PAYLESS WHICH IS THE TRIPLE ARCADE, WHICH IS ABOUT 100 FEET, WHICH IS ALMOST 1200 FEET AWAY FROM WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE WOULD BE OF OUR LOCATION.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY IT'S NOT AS CLUSTERED YOU'RE MAKING

IT SOUND. >> ACTUALLY I KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING IS AND TO ME, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS WITH THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT IT IS THESE THINGS ARE CLUSTERED BECAUSE YOU CAN GO FROM ONE TO THE NEXT WITHIN A COUPLE MINUTES. YOU COULD.

>> YEAH. >> SO I'M SAYING.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE ARGUMENTIVE WITH YOU I'M JUST THINKING MYSELF IF THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS CREATES LIKE I SAID BEFORE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT SECURITY AND SAFETY AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE BUSINESS PLAN OR HOW THIS ACTIVITY HAPPENS I KNOW IT'S AT NIGHT, I KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE IN THERE HAVING FUN.

I DON'T THINK DRINKING IS INVOLVED WITH IT, AT LEAST NOT IN THE FACILITY ITSELF ACCOUNT BUT MAYBE BETWEEN GOING FROM THIS TO THAT ONE THAT HAPPENS.

BUT IF IT IS SOMEWHAT INDICATIVE OF AN ACTIVITY THAT IS NOT CONDUC -- CONDUCKIVE TO HEALTH, WELFARE AND SAFETY THAT'S A CONSIDERATION WE NEED HAVE MUCH I MAY BE REACHING OUT THERE BUT THERE'S NOTHING HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THAT NOBODY HAS SPOKEN AGAINST IT TO BEGIN WITH. SO ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF ME I HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

I HAVE JUST PERCEPTIONS. OKAY.

>> GROWING CONCERN. >> GROWING CONCERN.

THANK YOU. >> I'M THE SAME WAY

COMMISSIONER. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU

WANT TO ADD? >> NOT THAT CAN BE RELATED TO THIS APPLICANT OR APPLICATION, NO.

JUST PERCEPTION AND OTHER INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY. LOOKING AT ZONES, I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND WHEREAS IT RELATES TO OTHER PARCELS OR PARCELS TO THE WEST PARCELS TO THE EAST NOT A BIG DEAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE U.S. 1 AND COMMERCIAL

PROPERTIES. >> MAYOR, YES, SIR.

MAYBE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE IF STAFF COULD REACH TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AS FAR AS ACTIVITY AND THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH ARCADES IN FORT PIERCE. JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT A PERCEPTION THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF FACTUAL BASIS TO GO FORWARD. THERE IS I BELIEVE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE AGENDA POLICE PHONE CALLS THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE STANDARDS FOR REVIEW FOR THE WAIVER OF DISTANCE. MADAM MAYOR.

I DID SEE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING I THINK THAT HELPS. SO, YEAH, IT DOES MAKE US A LITTLE UNEASY. I HAVE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY PROCESSES SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PATRONS THAT WOULD BE VISITING AND FREQUENTLY THESE ESTABLISHMENTS I THINK I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OF HOW IT TRANSPIRES IN PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY PLAY ARCADE MACHINES THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE DEEMED A WINNER BY SOME SORT OF I DON'T THINK THIS IS A LARGE CASH TRANSACTIONS BUT IT'S SOMETHING OF VALUE OF SOME KIND OF WITNESS TRANSFER. AS WE LOOK TO THESE I AGREE THIS WON'T BE LAST WE SATURDAY HERE WE HAVE APPROVED THEM BEFORE UP AND DOWN U.S. 1.

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AS SOON AS YOU BREAK THE CITY LIMITS TO THE SOUTH THEY ARE LITERALLY LINED UP SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THAT'S HERE. I THINK THAT WHAT I WROUL LIKE TO KNOW THOUGH AS WE MOVE FORWARD FROM STAFF IS WE MAY NOT HAVE IT BUT MAYBING COUNTIES AND CITIES MAY HAVE IT. I THINK WE NEED TO POLL THEM AS WELL JUST TO TRY TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND IT TO UNDERSTAND IT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IT'S A MODEL THAT'S WOULD BEING THEY WOULD NOT BE COMING IF THEY DID NOT WORK.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND STUDY IT MORE UNDERSTAND IT AND GO FROM THERE. SO, I'M OKAY I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REVIEW OF APPLICATION FOR WAIVER OF DISTANCE.

>> YOU'RE SECONDED. MOTION IN THE SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of application for Conditional Use with No New Construction submitted by Property Owner, Bamboo Palms and Representative is Architectonic, Inc., to operate a 1,130 sq ft Amusement Arcade Center with 22 arcade machines at 1717 S US Highway 1 in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned General Commercial Zone (C-3). Parcel ID(s): 2415-311-0004-000-3, 2415-311-0004-010-6.]

>>> NO NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY BAMBOO PALMS AND REPRESENTATIVE TO OPERATE A 1,130 AMUSEMENT ARCADE CENTER IN FORT PIERCE.

PROPERTY ZONE COMMERCIAL GENERAL C-3.

>> MR. GILLMORE. >> EVENING.

NOW WE HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION

TO OPERATE -- >> CAN I STOP YOU ONE SECOND. DO I NEED TO GO.

I NEED -- I JUMP THE GUN. I'M, I NEED TO -- BACK TO THE TOP. AS THE -- HAS THE

ADVERTISING BEEN MET. >> THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN

MET. >> DID YOU ASK THE COMMISSION FOR EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

>> YES. >> NO, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER NOM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> NOM. >> COMMISSIONER HUDSON.

NO MA'AM. >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAM ON THIS ISSUE. IF YOU COULD STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> NOW YOU MAY PROCEED MR. GILMORE.

>> BEFORE YOU WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION TO OPERATE AN ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTER WITH 22 ARCADE MACHINES AND AN OFFICE TWO RESTROOMS, THE HOURS OF OPERATION SHALL BE 8:00 TO 12 A.M. P.M. AND 8:00 TO 2:00 A.M. FOCH STAFF HAS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THREE CONDITIONS.

NUMBER ONE, TO INSTALL A BICYCLE RACK WITH MINIMUM REQUIRED SPACES, NUMBER IT WORKS ADHERE TO CITY CODE SECTION 125-325 AMUSEMENT ARCADES ARCADE MUSEUM.

NUMBER 3, A LOCK COMBINATION AND UNITY OF TITLE OR KEVANT IN IN LIEU OF UNITY OF TITLE OF BOTH PARCELS FOR THE

SUBJECT PROPOSAL. >> IS THAT IT.

>> THEAT IT. >> THIS IS THE TIME TO QUESTION STAFF. WE ARE THEORETICALLY NOT

SUPPOSED TO QUESTION THEM. >> SO I GOT, YES, SIR.

>>. >> THIS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE IN STAFF REVIEW OF THE -- WERE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES REQUIRED BY CODE OR WERE THEY OFFERING

THEM UP? >> THEY WERE REQUIRED AND THEY ADDED THEM TO THE REAR THAT'S WHY I HIGHLIGHTED I KNOW THE PLANNING BOARD WE DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT IT AND THAT'S A QUESTION THAT CAME. SO IT'S ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. OF THE PARKING AND TRAVELAL- MOVEMENT OF VEHICLES NOW. SO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN YOU HAD IT RIGHT. ORIGINAL DESIGN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN ORIGINAL CIRCULATION WAS PROBABLY TWO WAY TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING.

>> NO. ACTUALLY HAVE A PHOTO ON-SITE FOR YOU. YOU WANT TO SEE.

>> JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THIS PARKING DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WASN'T -- HOLD ON A SECOND.

WE WILL GO TO GOOGLE MAPS WELL, I GUESS IT IS TWO WAY.

I TAKE THAT BACK. I WAS LOOKING FOR ARROWS.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO FIND. SO THIS IS UNIQUE.

SO SOLID WASTE REVIEWED THIS?

BECAUSE I NOTICED. >> SOLID WASTE OF DUMPS HERE

ALSO. >> THERE'S A DUMPSTER ON THE END. TO APPROVE THE -- THE

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FRAMING WE'RE PROPOSING THEY'RE PROPOSING NEW ADDITIONAL PARKING AND STRIPING TO THE BACK OF THIS.

HOW WILL AT THE ACCESS THE ACTUAL ARCADE.

THROUGH ONE OF THESE BACK DOORS NOW?

OR WALK AROUND A BUILDING. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION I WILL HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

>> WE'LL GET THERE. THEN THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING IN WHAT I SAW THEY WILL ACTUALLY PROPOSE TO TAKE CARE THE STRIPING IN WHATEVER SIGNAGE WHATEVER, RIGHT. IN THE CERTIFICATE OF OUNDCY.

>> MR. GILMORE I THINK I SAW WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD DID WHAT WAS THE PLANNING BOARD DID YOU TELL US THAT.

IT'S ON YOUR PRESENTATION. THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO FOR APPROVAL BUT THEY DID HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

PARKING. >> JUST ONE MORE OR LIGHTING

OR SITE LIGHTING. >> NO.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR STAFF. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. MIKE MENARD.

YOU WERE SWORN IN. NO QUESTIONS OF STAFF WE'RE GOOD WITH THE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND I CAN MAYBE HELP CLARIFY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IT IS CURRENTLY A ONE WAY IT GOES TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING BECOMES TWO WAY THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE IT'S TWO WAY AS WELL. SO AS FAR AS YOUR DUMPSTER FLOW THAT'S NEVER CHANGED. THE PATTERN OR TECHNIQUE FOR THAT BASICALLY ALL WE'RE DOING IS ELIMINATING THE TWO WAY ACROSS THE BACK AND PUTTING IN ANGULAR PARKING AND ADDING FOR THE METRIC APPROVE SITE LIGHTING.

AND WE CAN HAVE A REAR ENTRANCE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EXIT FROM THE BACK OF THE BUILDING ANYWAYS FOR LIGHT SAFETY AND A.D.A. COMPLIANCE.

>> ABOUT THE A.D.A. COMPLIANCE IN LIGHTING.

>> WE DID A SITE METRIC FOR THE LIGHT SAFETY REQUIREMENTS OF THE TWO FOOT CANDLES.

THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO MEANS OF EGRESS FOR THE SPACE FOR LIFE SAFETY AND THE A.D.A. COMPLIANCE SO WE WILL BE DOING ALL THOSE UPGRADES AS PART OF THE

PERMIT PROCESS. >> AND THAT YOU ALSO SAID THERE WILL BE A REAR ENTRANCE.

BECAUSE OF THE A.D.A. COMPLIANCE.

>> SO IF THERE'S AN ACTIVE ENTRANCE AND THIS ELEVATION HERE THE REAR OF THE BUILDING?

>> THAT'S THE RARE, YES. >> WHAT ARE THE PROTECTIVE MEASURES. I KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO A WAREHOUSE TODAY OR YOU CONSTRUCT SUCH THAT A THING

ARE THERE ANY BULLARDS. >> WE WILL HAVE TO INSTALL PIPE BALLARDS BECAUSE OF THE A.D.A. ACCESSIBILITY WE WILL HAVE TO BY THE LOOKS OF IT WE HAVE A COUPLE INCHES TO CONTEND WITH. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. HOW MANY DOORS ACCESS IN?

>> JUST ONE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF

THE APPLICANT? >> YOU MENTION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ADDING SITE LIGHTING ON THE BACK OF THIS FOR SAFETY AND CONCERNS THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT THE BACK OF THIS BUILDING I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK THERE AT NIGHT. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S BACK THERE. I DO KNOW IT'S A VACANT PARCEL IN THE BACK THERE. SO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS FOR SAFETY?

>> WE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD APPLICATION AND TECHNICAL REVIEW AND EVERYTHING A SITE STUDY. SHOWED WHERE THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WOULD BE WHETHER IT WAS WALL TO MEET THE CODE'S MINIMUM TWO FOOT CANDLE AVERAGE.

>> SO THIS WON'T BE A TWO WAY IT WILL BE BASICALLY A ONE WAY STARTING ON THE NORTH END AND AND THE SOUTH, YEAH. BASICALLY COMING IN FROM THE NORTH END JUST GOING ONE WAY AROUND.

OKAY. >> DID WE COMMISSIONERS IS THIS SIGNAGE FOR THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT TO INDICATE OBVIOUSLY ARROW IS RIGHT. YOU ARE DOING THAT AS WELL.

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OKAY. THAT WAS ALSO CONCERN ABOUT THE ENTRANCE AS I LOOK HERE OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT A.D.A.

COMPLIANT TO BE ABLE TO GET A CHAIR THERE.

USING CHAIRS TO ENTER THE FROM BUILDING THE REAR.

IN YOUR PARKING WILL YOU HAVE DESIGNATED A.D.A. OR HAND CATCH PARKING IN THE BACK HERE?

>> NO, WE CURRENTLY I HAVE THE ON THE FRONT.

>> OKAY. >> WITH THE ACCESS AISLES AND EVERYTHING SO THE MAIN A.D.A. ACCESSIBILITY ENTRANCE IS IN THE FRONT OF THE PLAZA.

>> SO THAT WILL MEET WITH THE CURRENT STANDARDS THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR YOUR BUSINESS OF OPERATION. BASED ON THE CALCULATION.

>> MR. PERONA. >> I WAS JUST LOOKING BECAUSE HAVE YOU OTHER OTHER COMPETING BUSINESSES YOU ALL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME SPARK -- PARKING.

YOU ARE ADDING HOW MANY MORE PARKING SPACES.

>> THE PARKING CALCULATION WAS DONE BASED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL BAY BASED ON THE OCCUPANCY, BASED ON THE CODE THEN WHAT THE CODE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE ARCADE CAME UP WITH A TOTAL WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT TO WORK ON THE EXISTING ASPHALT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE NO ONE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

>> MADAM MAYOR I MOVE FOR THE APLOFL FOR THE WHAT -- APPROVAL OF WHAT ARE WE DOING.

CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO NEW CONSTRUCTION OF BAMBOO

PALMS. >> WITH THE CONDITIONS.

>> WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED.

>> IS THERE A SECOND. >> ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

>> I DO THINK WHAT I HEARD IS WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE MORE BEFORE ANOTHER ONE COMES BEFORE US WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN TERMS OF

SAFETY. >> INFORMATION HAS PROVIDE THE ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS POINT THIS INDUSTRY IS STILL QUITE NEW AND IT'S DEVELOPING TRENDS RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO AT LEAST HAVE A REPORT WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR PEOPLE TO MAKING DECISIONS

ON THIS GOING FORWARD. >> WE HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE HAD OUR INTERN SHE DID SOME RESEARCH ON SURROUNDING CITIES SO WE CAN GET THAT TO

YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS AS PROLIFERATE.

>>> SO CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>> ROLL CALL]

[e. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for Conditional Use with New Construction submitted by Property Owner, Ocean Village POA, Inc., and Representative, Schulke, Bittle & Stoddard, LLC c/o Jodah B. Bittle, P.E., for the construction of proposed racquet court coverings to be built within the Coastal Construction Control Line (CCCL) at 2400 S Ocean Drive in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned Hutchinson Island Medium Density Residential Zone, (R-4A). Parcel ID: 2507-321-0001-000-5]

>> WE HAVE A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER OCEAN VILLAGE POA INK AND REPRESENTATIVE -- P.O.A. INC. AND REPRESENTATIVE SCHULKE, BIDLE AND STODDARD.

>> MADAM CLARK HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR

THIS ITEM. >> ADVERTISING FOR THIS ITEM

HAS BEEN MET. >> AND WE ARE GOING TO CHECK WITH EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT

SLOWLY. >> OKAY I AMMENT

COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON? >> NO, MA'AM.

IS THAT SLOW ENOUGH. >> VERY SLOW.

[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. I'VE HAD AN E-MAIL FROM A RESIDENT OF OCEAN VILLAGE IN SUPPORT.

>> I CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE EX PARTE.

>> WE CAN SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.

HOW ABOUT THAT. >> SURE.

>> ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHTY. >> WHEN SHE SAID SLOWLY I DIDN'T SEE YOU. COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON DID YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.

>> YES, I HAVE. I HAVE HAD E-MAIL

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CORRESPONDENCE FROM RESIDENTS, THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHTY. >> SO WE'RE NOW BEGINNING THE PROCEDURE AND SO PROCEED.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR UNDER STAFF ANALYSIS ABOUT THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION IT'S AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE AND BLUE

HER ON BOULVARD. >> THANK YOU.

-- HERON BOULVARD. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL ALSO HAVE TWO MOTIONS FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL. FIRST WE'LL START WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE SITE PLAN AND

DESIGN REVIEW. >> TODAY WE HAVE BEFORE YOU SITE PLAN DESIGN REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PUDGE PROPERTY AT 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE OCEAN VILLAGE CLUBHOUSE.

>> SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN OCEAN VILLAGE. WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE AND BLUE HERON BOULVARD. SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF H.I.R. WHICH IS AN ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WITH THE ZONING OF MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ZONE. THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 3,455 SQUARE FEET.

THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE WILL CONSIST OF 6,426 SQUARE FEET. THE REASON FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE IS BECAUSE OF THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF A CANOPY FOR THE RACQUETBALL COURTS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO STAND UNDER, OKAY.

>> BEFORE YOU IS A FRONT ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED OCEAN NEW OCEAN VILLAGE CLUBHOUSE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT THE VERTICAL AMENITIES CONTROL LINE FOR THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE.

>> THIS WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD.

>> YES, WHAT IS THAT VOTE? >> UNANIMOUS APPROVAL JUST WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH PROCEDURE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. >> MADAM MAYOR I HAVE A QUESTION I NEED TO ASK. YOUINDICATED THAT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS THE RACKET

COURT COVERINGS. >> THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TOTALLY WHAT I HAVE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT A CLUBHOUSE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THIS WAS THE AD I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK.

>>. I HAVE THE AD NOW.

YEAH IT'S JUST REACT BALL COVERING -- RACQUETBALL COVERING. THAT'S ALL THAT'S IN THE LANGUAGE. ITEM 12 D.

>> I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL USE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL REQUIRE A LEGAL AD FOR THE SITE PLAN.

I DON'T THINK SO. IF THE PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE IS OVER THERE'S NO SITE PLAN ADVERTISED IS MY POINT.

>> MY APOLOGIES I COULD HAVE SWORN THAT I DID THE SITE PLAN BUT APPARENTLY I DIDN'T.

>> WELL, THERE IS SO MENTION OF IT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ATTACHMENT BUT YOU DIDN'T ADVERTISE FOR IT.

>> I DIDN'T ADVERTISE IT. THE ONLY THING THAT WAS ADVERTISED WAS THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE FOR COASTAL CONSTRUCTION. IF ANYBODY FINDS ANYTHING TO

THE CONTRARY LET ME KNOW. >> I'M LOOKING.

>> SO IN THIS EXHIBIT WHERE WOULD THAT BE.

>> THE RED AREA. >> SO WE'LL NEED TO PROCEED

WITH THAT. >> AND COME BACK.

>> THEN IT WILL HAVE TO BE A SECOND.

SO YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AND TALKED

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ABOUT THE ROCKET BALL COVERING.

>> 13 BY 40. THAT LINE IS RIGHT HERE THE NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT SO THAT MAKES WHERE'S THE LINE.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. >> THE BOTTOM RIGHT ARROW I THINK THEY HAVE THIS INCORRECT THOUGH.

BECAUSE THIS IS THE ROADWAY. I CAN'T MAKE OUT.

>> DID THEY SUBMIT THIS DOCUMENT?

>> YES. I'M TRYING TO PULL UP THE APPLICATION RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT'S ATTACHED TO

THE AGENDA AGENDA ITEM. >> IT MUST BE A LARGE FILE BECAUSE IT'S TAKING A FEW MINUTES.

>> CAN YOU PULL IT UP ON THE WEBSITE.

SEE NICK I TOLD YOU WE ARE GOING TO NEED PLANS UP HERE ONE DAY. TOOK ME -- NO.

I'M TEASING NO. -- SAVE THE TREES.

>> IT'S NOT CORRECT.

>> GOING BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THE GREEN BOX WOULD BE WOULD BE WEST OF THAT LINE WHICH IS PROPOSED, RIGHT? NOT ADVERTISE BUT PROPOSED, RIGHT.

[01:55:04]

BEARING ARE CLEAR. NOW YOU ARE CLEAR.

ADVERTISEMENT STILL SAYS DO WE HAVE THE ADVERTISEMENT IN

THE AGENDA. >> IT'S OKAY.

PROOF OF PUBLICATION. UNFORTUNATELY IT SAYS BAM BOOM PALMS. ATTACHED SO I WONDER IF IT GOT ATTACHED TO THE WRONG THING.

>> NO, THERE'S THREE OF THEM.

THEY'RE ALTOGETHER. >> EXCUSE ME.

THAT'S RIGHT. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF STAFF OKAY, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

NOW IT'S THE APPLICANT AND I THINK I SAW YOU WERE SWORN IN THIS ENTIRE APPLICATION IS ONLY FOR THE CLUBHOUSE.

THIS CONDITIONAL USE JUST CAME ABOUT IT'S LITERAL FOUR HOLES WITH A COVER ON IT. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MOVE ON FROM HERE I GUESS AS AN AD OR CAN WE MOVE FORWARD OR DO WE HAVE TO PUT AN ADD IN. FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE OR BUILDINGS. CAN YOU HELP.

IT MUST BE ADVERTISED. >> THERE'S A 15 DAY

ADVERTISING WINDOW. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS MISSED BUT THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE MIDDLE IS FOR FOR THE CLUBHOUSE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY

OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. >> OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS EITHER A MISCOMMUNICATION OR A GLITCH AND WE APOLOGIZE IF IT'S ON OUR PART. I APOLOGIZE.

>> I THINK SHE'S GOING TO GIVE US SOME GOOD ANSWERS.

>> REBECCA GEARA. AGAIN SIR WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE OMISSION. BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN WAS NOT ADVERTISED AND ONLY THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS WE WILL HAVE TO ADVERTISE.

IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING.

AND N-, IT NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA AS WELL. SO WE WILL PUT IT THE ADVERTISING FOR THE 7TH IS IN FACT TOMORROW WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE IT FOR TOMORROW TO PUT IT ON THE SEPTEMBER 7TH AGENDA SO WE WILL ABSOLUTELY GET IT ONTO THE AGENDA. I WILL LOOK AT IT PERSONALLY. TRIPLE CHECK IT AND WE WILL AS I SAID WE WILL GET IT ONTO THE SEPTEMBER

7TH AGENDA. >> SO WHAT I HEARD HIM ASKING THOUGH WAS ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE.

>> THIS CONDITIONAL USE CAN BE MOVED FORWARD JUST FINE IT WAS ADVERTISED FOR THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION LINE.

THIS IS READY TO GO FOR THAT LITTLE RED CIRCLE THAT ENCROACHES WITHIN THE CCNL. SO THE SITE PLAN WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD SUBSEQUENT TO THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADVERTISED.

>> BUT THE CONDITIONAL USE CAN MOVE FORWARD WE TYPICALLY AND ALWAYS DO CONDITIONAL USES FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION EASTERLY OF THE CCCL IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> YES, SIR,. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING. BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE SITE PLAN WAS IS WHAT I WAS

ASKING. >> THE SITE PLAN IS ANOTHER

NUMBER. >> IT'S BECAUSE THE SIZE OF IT. IF IT WAS UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET IT WOULD BE A MINOR SITE PLAN.

>> I WAS TRYING TO FIND A LOOPHOLE TO GET YOU THE ALL APPROVED HERE TONIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER

COMMENTS. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> MADAM MAYOR CAN I TAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION PLEASE.

I APOLOGIZE. I'M LOOKING AT THE ADVERTISING THAT WENT OUT AND IT DOES REFERENCE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CCCL.

CAN YOU CLARIFY IMPORTANT WHETHER YOU'RE ASKING FOR CONSTRUCTION WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR CONSTRUCTION ARE THOSE TWO THINGS CONSISTENT BECAUSE? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADVERTISING THAT WE DO HAVE FOR THE ONE ITEM THAT WE CAN ADDRESS TODAY WAS CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO YOU ARE ASKING FOR C-WORD. SO OUTSIDE, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> RIGHT.

I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THAT ADVERTISING SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT IT'S WITHIN THEREFORE NOT TRIGGERING THE

CONDITIONAL US. >> IS THAT THE STANDARD WAY

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WE ADVERTISE IT. >> WE USUALLY ADVERTISE SEA

WARD. >> USUALLY ADVERTISE SEA

WARD. >> SO I MEAN, IF IT'S -- OUTSIDE OF IT IT WOULDN'T NEED TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL

USE SO YOU DID IT CORRECT. >> SO CAN I JUST CLARIFY I JUSTIFY WANT TO MAKE SURE. MISS COX INDICATED THE ADS USUALLY SAY THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

>> MR. MIMMS IT. >> LOOKS LIKE WE DID NOT DO THIS CORRECTLY. I WILL RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE THIS CONDITIONAL USE SCHEDULE IT ALONG WITH THE SITE PLAN FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE TO INCLUDE THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE RACQUETBALL STRUCTURE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST THROW THIS OUT TONIGHT I THINK WE SHOULD BRING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER COMPREHENSIVELY AND DO IT THE CORRECT WAY ENSURE OUR ADVERTISING IS DONE CORRECTLY. I APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF OUR STAFF. I APOLOGIZE TO THE APPLICANT. WE CREW UP.

WE GOT TO DO IT RIGHT -- WE SCREWED UP.

WE GOT TO DO IT RIGHT. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY IS IT OKAY IF WE ALLOW HIM HE HAS SOMETHING

ELSE TO SAY. >> THIS MIGHT BE -- GO

AHEAD. >> THE CLUBHOUSE IS NOT EAST

OR SEA WARD. >> RIGHT.

RIGHT. >> IT'S JUST -- YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO VOTE ON THAT.

>> WE WISH WE COULD. SEA WARD.

>> MADAM MAYOR I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON ANYTHING ON THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK AND DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO STAND ON THIS COMMISSIONER. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS TONIGHT.

>> SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE HAD WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON WHO WANTS TO TALK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE COME FORWARD SINCE

I'VE OPENED IT BACK UP. >> BARRETT ENGLAND PROCTOR CONSTRUCTION REPRESENTING THE OWNER.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS IS GETTING MOVED AN

ADDITIONAL MONTH. >> SEPTEMBER 7TH.

>> OR MOVED TO SEPTEMBER 7TH.

>> THAT'S THE NEXT TIME WE MEET.

>> OKAY. >> SO I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU FOR THE APOLOGIES. THIS IS A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF MONEY HAS COME IN TO THIS MEETING TO BE APPROVED. IN AUGUST.

SO THERE'S NO OTHER LOOPHOLE NOTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO PASS THIS VOTE IN AUGUST AS IT WAS SCHEDULED PLAN.

>> MISS COX I THINK WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE LAW AND REQUIREMENTS ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS AND CERTAIN TIME LIMIT THAT WE HAVE TO AND SINCE WE ADVERTISED IT INCORRECTLY OR ONLY PARTIALLY AND THEN WHAT PART OF THAT WAS INCORRECT I THINK WE'RE STUCK WITH THE

LAW. >> CAN I GET YOUR NAME

AGAIN? >> BARRETT.

>> IF WE COULD DO IT WE WOULD.

IF WE COULD. >> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO WE HAVE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD

LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. >> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WE ARE DOING MISS EARLY DO WE POSTPONE THIS OR TO A

DATE CERTAIN. >> I THINK WE SHOULD POSTPONE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN TOY BELIEVE SEPTEMBER 7TH. MEETING.

>> IS THAT THE WISH OF THE COMMISSION.

>> YES. >> WITH STILL HAVE TO READVERTISE IT. SECOND WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT THE MOTION MAKER INCLUDE THAT WE READVERTISE WITH LANGUAGE THAT DOESN'T SAY THE WORD WITHIN

>> JUST THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE PROPER FOR WHAT THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IT'S A LINE YOU DON'T LIVE WITHIN A LINE. IT'S OKAY IT'S EASTERLY.

>> I GIVE STAFF THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT.

>> CONDITIONAL USE PLUS, THE SITE.

EXACTLY. CORRECTLY NEXT TIME.

THAT WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

YES, I SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> OKAY. NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR

[f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-015 seeking a Future Land Use Map Amendment for two (2) properties generally located at or near 2398 Peters Road from Mixed Use (MXD) to General Commercial (GC). SECOND READING (Adoption Hearing)]

LEGISLATIVE HEARINGS OF 21-015 AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AAMENDING THE

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FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF TWO% GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2398 PETERS ROAD FROM CITY OF FORT PIERCE MIXED USE MXD TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE GENERAL KMEGS G.C. PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS THERE OF IN CONFLICT HERE OF AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND

READING. >> THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-016 AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-016 rezoning two (2) properties generally located at or near 2398 Peters Road from Residential Single Family 2 Units Per Acre (E-2) to General Commercial (C-3). SECOND READING]

COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, REZONING TWO PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED ARREST OR NEAR 2398 TWO UNITS PER ACRES E-2 TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE GENERAL GENERAL C-3. PROVIDING FOR SEVRABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS THERE OF AND CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN THE MOTION.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER PERONA, MAYOR HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE

[h. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-027 - Text Amendment to Chapter 125-321: Coastal Construction Control Line (CCCL) to remove the requirement for a Conditional Use approval for structures seaward of the CCCL. FIRST READING]

21-027 AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA CHAPTER 125 ARTICLE 7 SECTION 125-321 ELIMINATING THAT SECTION IN ITS ENTIRETY FROM CHAPTER 125 ZONING PROVIDING FOR SEVRABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THERE OF AND CONFLICT THERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> MR. CRAIG.

YOU AND YOUR SIDE KICK MR. THOMAS.

>> ME AND MY SIDE KICK FOR THE EVENING.

>> GOOD NIGHT. A TEXT AMENDMENT 321 WHICH IS OUR COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE SECTION.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO ELIMINATE THIS SECTION IN ITS ENTIRETY AND I WILL EXPLAIN WHY.

SO ON SCREEN YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE MOVES THROUGH SOUTH HUTCHINSON ISLAND. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS MORE TOWARDS THE NORTHERN PART OF SOUTH HUTCHINSON ISLAND THERE ARE MANY BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES THAT ARE PERFECTLY THE PURPOSE IS TO HELP MONITOR ADVERSE IMPACTS TO OUR BEACH AND DUNE SYSTEM.

ALSO, THIS LINE IS REGULATED AND CONSIDERED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

SO CHAPTER 161 OF FLORIDA STATUTES SAYS THE COASTAL COMMUNITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING SEA WARD OF THE CCCL. ARTICLE 7 OF OUR OWN CITY CODE REGULATES SUCH ACTIVITIES EASTWARD OF THE CCCL AND BUILDING CODE. CITY CODE SECTION 125321 WHICH IS THE SECTION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR STRUCTURES SEA WARD OF CCCL. OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL IS TASKED WITH ENFORCEMENT OF BOTH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND CITY ORDINANCES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CCCL REGULATIONS. COASTAL CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS ARE ALSO NOTED IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE WHICH IS UNDER THE CITY BUILDING OFFICIALS REGULATIONS. AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

CITY CODE SECTION 103-264 GRANTS THE AUTHORITY FOR PROFESSIONAL REVIEW AND PHYSICAL INSPECTION OF ANY STRUCTURE TO ENSURE THAT MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ADDRESSED DESIGN FEATURES THAT CAN AFFECT THE STRUCTURAL STABILITY OF BEACH DUNES TOPOGRAPHY OF ADJACENT PROPERTY.

105.3.1 PROVIDES IF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS SATISFIED THAT THE PROPOSED WORK CONFORMSED TO THE REQUIREMENTS AND LAWS AND ORDINANCES APPLICABLE THERE TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL SHALL ISSUE A PERMIT THEREFORE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO UNDER THIS NEW CHANGE TO THE CODE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHER APPLICABLE CITY CODES. BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR NOW THAT THE STATE HAS PLACED THE BURDEN FOR ANY COASTAL CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS FROM ANY APPLICABLE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS OR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TO NOW FLORIDA BUILDING OFFICIALS. SO POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSION YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY APPROVE AS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND IS SO MR. THOMAS. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER

PERONA. >> I DO.

THERE ARE SOME SOME OPTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR THE OVERLAY THAT DEAL WITH HEIGHT.

WHERE IT'S ONE WHERE ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENT

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IS PART OF THE PLAN AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVED IT COMES IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.

THE COMMUNITY WEIGHS IN THAT PROCESS IS STILL GOING TO BE

EXACTLY THAT WAY? >> YES, THAT PROCESS WILL STILL REMAIN THE SAME. SO IN YOUR R-1 THROUGH R-3 ZONING DISTRICTS HOMES ARE ALLOWED TO BE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 28 FEET IN HEIGHT THAT CAN THEN GO UP TO 35 FEET WITH CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL.

SO REGARDLESS IF IT'S PASS THE CCCL OR NOT THAT WILL STILL STAY IN PLACE ANY STRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE R-4 IS ALLOWED UP TO 45 FEET BY RIGHT THERE IS NO CONDITIONAL USE FOR EXTENSION OF HEIGHT THERE.

I THINK MY COMMENTS WERE THAT MOST OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTING THAT HAVE BEEN EAST OF THE CCCL.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

WE CLEAR. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> IF I MAY. >> YES, PLEASE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.

THIS WHOLE ISSUE CAME TO MY ATTENTION FIRST THROUGH MATTY WILLIAMS WHO'S WITH THE TCBA.

THERE'S A BUILDER TRYING TO BUILD ON SURFSIDE AND THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS THAT WAS GOING TO EXTEND THEIR PERMITTING THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR MONTHS. THEY WERE VERY UPSET.

THEY SAID THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WAS ABOUT TO JUST FORFEIT BECAUSE PRICES ARE GOING UP IT'S HARD TO GET MATERIALS AND THEY WERE PUTTING HIM UNDER A LOT OF PRESSUREFUL SHE HAD HIM CALL ME.

THIS IS A PLANNING ISSUE RIGHT.

SO WHAT CAN I DO. I HEARD HIM OUT.

I CALLED FIRST TO SPEAK TO BRANDON THEN I SPOKE TO HOFMEISTER. ULTIMATELY THE RECOGNITION WAS THAT THIS REALLY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AND THIS IS AN OBSOLETE ORDINANCE.

BACK IN THE DAY, THIS YOU KNOW FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT AND ALL THAT WAS BASICALLY UNDER THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S WHY THIS ORDINANCE IS THERE.

IT'S IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN TRANSFERED TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL THROUGH THE BUILDING CODE THAT'S WHY WE JUST DIDN'T GET RID OF THE ORDINANCE IT'S OBSOLETE NOW. WITHIN THREE WEEKS SHE'S GOTTEN THIS FROM THE TIME THIS GENTLEMAN CALLED HER AND HE WAS BELLIGERENT WITH HER.

HE WASN'T NICE AT ALL. BUT SHE SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO HIM. SHE TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT AND FROM THE TIME THAT HE VOICED HIS COMPLAINT UNTIL THE TIME THAT THIS IS BEING CHANGED IS ABOUT THREE WEEKS WHICH IS UNHEARD OF. HE'S THRILLED, A HOUSE IS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST REALLY TIME WASTED I HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS TO JEN AND HER STAFF FOR REALLY MOVING FORWARD AND RECOGNIZING IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IT AND CAN BE DONE QUICKLY TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE ALL OF US CAN SAY YEAH WE'LL DO IT ONCE YEAR WHEN IT'S TIME TO UPDATE ORDINANCES OR WHATEVER. BUT SHE NOT TO.

>> FOR TRYING TO SEE A PROBLEM AN OBSTACLE THAT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARY. WE'RE NOT ENDANGERING THE COASTLINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE'RE JUST MAKING IT EASIER BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER IT'S UNDER ANOTHER JURISDICTION IS THAT CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR A MOTION?

>> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-028 AN ORDINANCE

[i. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 21-028 creating Chapter 12, Section12-7 of the Code of Ordinances establishing proof of residency requirements for candidates seeking the office of commissioner and/or mayor-commissioner. FIRST READING]

AMENDMENTING CHAPTER 12 OF CODE ORDINANCES CREATING SECTION 12-7 ELECTION OF MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION MEMBERS PROVIDING FOR THE FILING OF PROOF OF RESIDENCY FOR CANDIDATES PROVIDING FOR SEVRABILITY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> ALL RIGHTY. SO MISS COX YOU HAVE REQUESTED ONE PROOF OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

IS THAT RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

YES. AND THEN DID YOU GIVE ANY THOUGHT TO ANY MORE THAN ONE.

LIKE SAY TWO? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE THAT ONE

WILL DO THE TRICK? >> I AM COMFORTABLE IT SAYS

AT LEAST ONE. >> AT LEAST ONE.

AT LEAST ONE. AND THAT ONE HAS TO BE

CONVINCING TO YOU. >> CORRECT.

I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH YOU KNOW THE COMPONENTS OF THIS ORDINANCE AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WILL ALLOW ME TO DO AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, ONCE IF THIS PASSES YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO APPLY THE SAME PHILOSOPHY TO ALL

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OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMITTEES. YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE CONSISTENT. IMAGINE THAT.

>> ANY REQUEST QUESTIONS OF MISS COX.

PEOPLE MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE REFERENCES MADE HERE. CURRENTLY THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY REQUIREMENTS TO PROVE YOUR RESIDENCY WHEN YOU WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

OUR CHARTER REQUIRES THAT YOU LIVE IN THE DISTRICT AND THAT YOU HAVE LIVED IN THAT DISTRICT FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO YOUR, PRIOR TO THE ELECTION DATE.

IN REVIEWING I REACHED OUT TO MY FELL LOW CLERKS IN REVIEWING -- FELLOW CLERKS. PORT ST. LUCIE IN PARTICULAR JUST HERE, HAS A PRETTY RIGOROUS PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CANDIDATES LIVE WHERE THEY SAY THAT THEY LIVE AND THEY'VE LIVED THERE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY SAY THEY'VE LIVED THERE.

SO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO IS SIMPLY WHEN THEY COME INTO QUALIFY THEY WERE GOING HAVE TO PROVE SOME PROVIDE SOME SORT OF PROOF OF RESIDENCY BE IT A UTILITY BILL, A LEASE, THEIR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTATION, YOU KNOW THEIR FLORIDA DRIVERS LICENSE. ISH THAT VOTER REGISTRATION.

-- THEIR VOTER REGISTRATION. IT SEEMS SIMPLISTIC WITHOUT THIS I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE IT AT TIME OF QUALIFYING.

>> TWO YEARS WILL BE APPROVED IN THE SAME WITH

THE SAME DOCUMENTATION. >> IT SHOULD BE THE SAME DOCUMENTATION. I CAN LOOK WHEN A DRIVER'S LICENSE HAS BEEN ISSUED, WE CAN YOU KNOW TELL WHEN THE VOTER REGISTRATION -- I MEAN THE VOTER REGISTRATION IS THE EASIESTS ONE TO VERIFY. BUT THERE'S LOTS OF

DIFFERENT OPTIONS. >> I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE HERE. THEY'RE OPTIONS THAT PEOPLE

CAN BRING IN. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVE. AT LEAST ONE.

>> THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO MAKE SURE WHOEVER IS SIGNING UP TO RUN FOR OFFICE IS ACTUALLY ELIGIBLE.

>> CORRECT. CORRECT.

>>. >> THIS IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT IN WHAT WE WERE BEFORE BECAUSE BASICALLY, YOU ASKED HIM OR HER IF THEY LIVED IN THE DISTRICT FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY SAID YES THEY SIGNED A PIECE OF PAPER AND

THAT PRETTY MUCH WAS IT. >> SIGNED A NOTE THAT WAS IT. THE LAGO ROUND WAS VERY --

THE LAST GO ROUND WAS VERY. >> WE ARE GOING TO AVOID ALL THAT YOU ARE OUR QUALIFIER AS YOU SHOULD BE AS CLERK.

IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT THEY CAN TAKE IT --

>> CIRCUIT COURT. >> COURT.

>> CORRECT. >> I LIKE THAT.

>> ONE MORE COMMENT ON THAT IF I CAN.

ALTHOUGH THEY SIGNED AN AFFIDAVIT.

THIS ACTUALLY IS THE PROOF OF BURDEN THIS IS THE FINAL QUALIFIED JUSTIFIED GIVE YOU MERIT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION OR NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

APPLICATION. >> IF THEY CAN'T PROVIDE THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION I WILL NOT QUALIFY THEM TO RUN.

OKAY. >> THEN THE BURDEN OF PROOF THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT TO COURT.

>> THEY COULD HAVE TO THEN TAKE IT TO COURT.

MY ONLY COMMENT IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TWO AND HERE'S.

WHY I JUST THOUGHT OF A SCENARIO I WENT THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM OF HOW I BEAT THIS.

I KEEP THE UTILITY BILLS IN MY NAME AND I CHARGE THE RENTER AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF RENT TO COVER THE UTILITY BILLS AND THE RENT BUT THE UTILITY BILLS ARE IN MY NAME THEN I BRING MY UTILITY BILL IN THAT SAYS WELL I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE AND I REALLY LIVE IN GEORGIA.

NOW WHAT. >> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TWO.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TWO. MY POINT IS I JUST BEAT WHAT

WE WROTE DOWN. >> I ALSO DON'T WANT TO

PRECLUDE ANYBODY WITH THESE. >> I'M JUST THINKING WE'RE GIVING TOOLS TO OUR CLERK TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I CAN'T IMAGINE OUR CLERK QUALIFYING ANYBODY IF THERE'S ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER. SO IF TWO IS HELPFUL I DON'T

THINK -- >> GIVES HER REAL STRENGTH

IN A WAY. >> IF WE HAD TO ASK EVERYBODY HERE ON THE COULD PROBABLY GIVE 20 ITEMS

EASILY. >> WE KNOW THERE ARE GALS AND GUYS AND FOLKS OR WHATEVER THEY WOULD JUST

LIKE TO PLAY THE SYSTEM. >> IT'S -- -- DISTURBING TO

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KNOW THAT YOU CAME UP WITH THAT.

>> I'M STILL A LITTLE PERPLEXED WITH HOW YOU CAME

UP WITH THAT. >> I HAVE RENTAL PROPERTIES LIVING IN MY HOUSE. 40 YEARS LAST MONTH, THANKS.

>> SO LITERALLY WE KNOW WHEN UTILITIES GO IN PEOPLE'S NAME WE KNOW, THAT RIGHT. THAT USUALLY WILL ESTABLISH A PERIOD OF WHICH THAT PERSON IS THERE.

I TAKE MYSELF AND I MOVE BACK I ESTABLISH UTILITIES IN MY NAME AT A CERTAIN DATE, TIME, CERTAIN RIGHTS SO THAT STARTS THE CLOCK. IT RUNS UNTIL THE ELECTION IS OVER AND THEN IT'S TWO YEARS TO THAT POINT.

SO BASED ON END OF ELECTION, WHATEVER THAT'S THE TWO YEAR QUALIFYING PERIOD. ON TOP OF THAT JUST TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING.

THIS YOU ARE GOING TO AAN ADDITIONAL PIECE IS NEEDED.

SO NOW DO THOSE TWO PIECES NEED TO MATCH UP OR THEY

SHOULD MATCH UP. >> THEY SHOULD COVER A TIME

PERIOD. >> FOUR ITEMS.

>> IT'S THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION DOCUMENTATION, A LEASE FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, A UTILITY BILL, A FLORIDA DRIVER'S LICENSE, OR A FLORIDA IDENTIFICATION CARD. THEY ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO BE A REGISTER VOTER THAT WOULD WORK AS WELL.

THAT REQUIRES BUT THEY CAN BE USED IT'S NOT REQUIRED I THINK IT'S NOT. IT'S THE THING THAT THEY CAN

USE. >> THEY CAN USE THAT.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE A REGISTERED ELIGIBLE THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS. THEY WILL SHOW YOU THE DAY THEY SIGN UP. USUALLY THAT TELL US THE VOTER CARD TELLS YOU WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY REDGER.

>> SHOULD WE ADD THAT TANYA TO THE LANGUAGE.

WE'LL ADD VOTER REGISTRATION CARD AS ONE OF THE

ACCEPTABLE DOCUMENTS. >> SO AGAIN IT'S ONE OF THE THAT'S LIKE FIVE ITEMS YOU CAN PRODUCE NOW.

>> SHE'S PROPOSING ONE AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS

TALKING ABOUT TWO. >> I'M INTERESTED IN TWO ALSO. BUT OF THOSE ITEMS.

>> YES. YOU HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST TO PICK FROM. FIVE OR SIX WE HAVE LISTED HERE TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF THE DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE RUNNING FOR FOR QUALIFICATION TO RUN FOR

THESE OFFICES. >> I THINK UNDER STATE LAW YOU ARE REQUIRED TO CHANGE THE ADDRESS ON YOUR DRIVER'S

LICENSE WITHIN 30 DAYS. >> WELL, THAT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR CAR REGISTRATION. I'M JUST TRYING TO STICK

WITH THIS PROCESS. >> PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE

DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT. >> I JUST WOULD BE MORE COMFY FOR TWO. THERE ARE FOLKS FOR SEARCH FOR HOW DO I BEAT IT. I DON'T WANT DISQUALIFY ANYONE. IF YOU CAN SHOW TWO OF THOSE WHICH ANY REASONABLE PERSON CAN, I BELIEVE, THAT WOULD ASPIRE TO BE IN OFFICE I FEEL LIKE THEY COULD PROVE

THAT. >> YOU OKAY WITH TWO

COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON. >> I COULDN'T CALL AND YOU TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION.

>> HEY, CURTIS I'M FOR TWO. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF HEARING. YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL

ELECTION COMING UP. >> IF WE DID THAT.

THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF TREPIDATION IT WITH.

BECAUSE OF WHAT I READ IT AND I CAME PREPARED TO DISCUSS. IF SOMEONE IS SEEKING THESE OFFICES YOU KNOW IT'S A SERIOUS MATTER, RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN YOU KNOW I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN LAST ONE WHAT I'VE LEARNED AS A RESULT OF WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY THAT THERE WERE NO REQUIREMENTS THERE.

I THINK THIS IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

IF WE ARE TALKING DRIVER'S LICENSE AND YOUR UTILITY BILL AT THE MOST. I THINK IF YOU MOVE HERE OR HAVE YOU MOVED INTO THE AREA YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE YOU HAVE PROBABLY CHANGE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO SHOW THAT AND IF YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED ISOLATES WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S UTILITIES YOU WILL PAY THAT BILL EVERY MONTH. OKAY.

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LET'S MOVE ON. >> SO WHO WANTS TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. DO WE WANT TO ADD TWO ITEMS PLUS THE VOTER REGISTRATION AS ONE OF THE ACCEPTABLE

ITEMS? >> SO THEN THERE WOULD BE FIVE THEN WOULD BE TWO OF THE FIVE?

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? >> YES.

>> WELL, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED VOTER IN THE CITY DO.

WE WANT TO ADD THAT HERE OR LEAVE IT JUST TWO ITEMS OF THE ONE THAT THE ONES WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT'S PART OF THE CHARTER IS IT

NOT? >> VOTER REGISTRATION.

YOU HAVE TO BE A QUALIFIED ELECTION FOR OF THE CITY.

WHAT MISS COX WAS SAYING AND I'M SORRY IF I'M OFF BASE WITH YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER, I THINK WHAT MISS COX WAS SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD ADD VOTER REGISTRATION TO THE LAUNDRY LIST IN D AS ONE OF THE MEANS OF PROVING RESIDENCY AS WELL, CORRECT.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

>> BUT WHAT HIS POINT IS AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

BECAUSE THAT'S CHARTER. >> YES.

SO BUT IT CAN ALSO BE ONE OF THE FIVE TO PROVE IS THAT

WHAT YOU WERE ASKING? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT.

>> SO YOUR CARD WILL COVER YOU IN TWO AREAS IT WILL COVER YOU IN THE CHARTER AND COVER YOU IN THE RESIDENCY

SAME CARD. >> IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CARD YOU'RE DONE EVEN IF YOU HAVE FIVE OF THE OTHERS OR FOUR OF THE OTHERS. IF I THINK MAY MADAM MAYOR

I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER. >>.

BOTH ITEMS ARE IN THE CHARTER.

BOTH RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT AND THE VOTER -- BEING A QUALIFIED ELECTION FOR OF THE CITY ARE IN THE CHARTER.

A QUALIFIED ELECTOR VERSUS A REGISTERED ELECTOR.

>> BASICALLY SOMEONE QUALIFIED VERSUS REGISTERED.

I WOULD THINK SOMEONE WHO IS QUALIFIED TO REGISTER IN THE ACTUAL LOCATION NOT JUST SOMEONE WHO'S A REGISTERED VOTER IN BROWARD COUNTY OR DADE COUNTY OR WHEREVER ELSE YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED TO VOTE HERE IN THE DISTRICT.

HASN'T DECIDED NOT TO REGISTER.

-- QUALIFIED ELECTOR. >> I'M NOT --

>> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THIS CHARTER. I UNDERSTAND THIS CHARTER IT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO VOTE ON.

TO ME WHAT QUALIFIES TO YOU VOTE IS AGE, RIGHT.

NO, YOU'RE REGISTERED TO VOTE.

I INTERPRET THAT DIFFERENT. QUALIFIED ELECTOR AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.

IF YOU DON'T REGISTER TO VOTE AT ALL RIGHT THAT'S YOUR RIGHT AS A PERSON. FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU WANT TO BOYCOTT NOT VOTE YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER TO

VOTE. >> YOU CAN'T RUN IF YOU'RE NOT A REGISTERED VOTER THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

THAT'S NOT HOW I LOOK AT IT. I WILL NEED SOME -- IT'S A STATE STATUTE DEFINES THAT. I WILL NEED SOME HELP HERE.

I WILL NEED SOME LEGAL HELP. I THINK WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL NOW. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING APART OF THE FIVE YOU SAY THAT'S REQUIRED OF THAT THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE TO ME.

SAYING IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

BECAUSE YOU ARE NOW TELLING ME I HAVE TO REGISTER TO VOTE. I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT THAT'S MY -- I'M NOT VOTING ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

BUT THAT'S WHAT MRS. COX IS SAYING.

YOU CAN USE THAT CARD AS PART OF THE RESIDENCY.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER WHAT I'M HEARING UP HERE THAT WAS NOT

WHAT CAME OUT. >> YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CHARTER IS WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE CHARTER.

WE'RE JUST ESTABLISHING AN ORDINANCE TALKING ABOUT

RESIDENCY. >> I'M JUST GIVING THEM ANOTHER FORM OF IDENTIFICATION.

>> THAT YOU CAN USE. >> THAT YOU CAN USE NOT THAT YOU MUST USE. I MEARD MUST THAT'S WHERE.

>> WE DID SAY MUST BECAUSE THERE'S APART OF THE CHARTER YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT NOW I'M VOTING ON WHAT I SEE IS I'M VOTING ON CAN I USE MY CARD TO QUALIFY ME

RESIDENCY. >> I'M OKAY WITH THAT YOU IF HAVE YOU THAT ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU HAVE YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION CARD. BUT THE QUALIFIED REGISTERED I THINK THAT'S WHOLE OTHER CHARTER CLARIFICATION THING THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME OTHER DAY, PROBABLY.

YEAH, OKAY. I'M WITH YOU.

I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR, TOO. I WANT TO BE CLEAR CLEAR BUT THAT'S A CHARTER THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE HAVE TO VOTE NOT US. MY ANTENNA WENT UP MAYBE

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THAT'S WHY I MISHEARD. OR I CAN GO TO MY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN SOMETHING ELSE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

WE'RE CLEAR. >> TO RUN FOR CITY COMMISSIONER OR MAYOR. OKAY.

>> ARE WE READY TO VOTE OR DO WE NEED MORE CLARIFICATION. MISS EARLY ARE SEARCHING FOR

ANYTHING ELSE. >> NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW I WASN'T MISQUOTING ANYTHING.

I BELIEVE THE CHARTER SAYS QUALIFIED ELECTION FOR IT A OF THE CITY AT THE TIME -- EELECTION FOR IT A OF THE CITY. AT THE TIME THAT YOU WERE

FILING. >> DID WE DO THE PUBLIC

HEARING? >> PROBABLY NOT.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS FORWARD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> I SEE NO ONE UP CLOSE AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. MADAM MAYOR I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES HOWEVER AND 12-7 ITEM D SECOND SENTENCE OR EXCUSE ME SECOND LINE SUBMISSION OF AT LEAST TWO INSTEAD OF THE WORD ONE OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS AND ADD TO THOSE ITEMS A PHOTOER REGISTRATION CARD.

-- A VOTER REGISTRATION CARD AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR

SUBMITTING FOR RESIDENCY. >> OR PROOF OF BOTH

REGISTRATION. >> OR WHATEVER, YES.

IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

IS THERE DISCUSSION. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. >>> NEXT WE HAVE THE

[a. Approval and acceptance of the FPUA FY2022 Annual Budget and FY2021 Amended Budget.]

APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE FPUA FY 2022 ANNUAL BUDGET AND FY 2021 AMENDED BUDGET.

>> MR. MIMMS DO HAVE YOU ANYTHING TO LEAD INTO THIS.

>> I DO NOT. WELCOME MR. TOMPACK AND MISS MICAH FROM THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR HUDSON CITY COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S OUR PLEASURE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE BUDGET FOR FY 2022 AND AMENDED BUDGET FOR FY 2021 FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

AT FIRST I WANTED TO THANK AND CONGRATULATE OUR FINANCE TEAM LED BY BARBARA MICAH WHO HAVE PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER EXCELLENT BUDGET PACKAGE.

THEIR EFFORTS HAVE LET US TO RECEIVE THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL FOR 25 STRAIGHT YEARS.

TONIGHT CONTAINS MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE NUMBERS FOR NEXT YEAR. IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT THAT CONTAINS UTILITY DESCRIPTION INFORMATION, ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURAL INFORMATION REN AND EXPENSES, PERSONNEL AND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS AT FPUA. FOR OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTANDING THIS DOCUMENT AND THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT IS PART OF THEIR TRAINING AND INDOCTRINATION. BACK IN MAY, FPUA HELD A JOINT CITY COMMISSION FPUA BUDGET WORKSHOP DURING THAT WORKSHOP WE DID A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE BUDGET WHICH INCLUDED DETAILS OF THE MAJOR ONGOING CAPITAL PROJECTS WITH MOST OF THESE BEING MULTIYEAR PROJECTS AND JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY THOSE PROJECTS INCLUDED A.M.I. SYSTEM EXPANSION PROJECTS FOR GAS, WATER, WASTE WATER, WASTE WATER MAINLANDING.

SUBSTATION STORM HARDENING, TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION AND FPUA NET INFRASTRUCTURE AND

IMPROVEMENTS. >> ALL THESE PROGRAMS ARE INCLUDED IN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN HAVE EVEN IDENTIFIED AS TOP PRIORITIES CONTINUES TO BE AN GRAVE

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PLAN EXPANDING OUR CUSTOMER BASE MOVING FORWARD ON YF 2021 ACHIEVEMENTS -- WE ALWAYS TO DETERMINE OUR CAPITAL LEVEL OF SPENDING IN RELATION TO OUR REVENUE AND COST 50% OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND INCLUDED PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION INDEX RATE ADJUSTMENTS AS WELL.

THE RESULT OF THAT ANALYSIS INDICATES WE WILL BE WELL ABOVE THE BOND COVENANT REQUIREMENTS OF 45 DAYS, AND WILL IN FACT BE IN THE 90+ DAY RANGE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. IN ALL LIKELIHOOD SOME OF THE PROJECTS WILL BE PHASED IN OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO FIT BUDGET RESTRAINTS AND THE CAPITAL COST FOR FY 2022 ARE BUDGETED AT A LITTLE MORE THAN $30 MILLION. OUR HISTORY SUGGESTS THAT WE WILL SPEND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 13 MILLION AND 17 MILLION WHICH IS WHAT MAKES THE BUDGET VIABLE.

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FPUA'S SPENDING PROBLEM IN 2020 WE SPENT ALMOST 17 MILLION AND THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IS WE HAD COMPLETEDDERFUL STEPS SO THAT WE COULD SPEND MORE MONEY. YOU RECALL LAST YEAR WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WE WERE GOING TO INCREASE SOME STAFFING AND ENGINEERS WE WERE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER UNIT PRICE CONTRACTOR FOR CONSTRUCTION WORK IN THE WASTE WATER CONSULTING ENGINEER AGREEMENT WITH DESIGNED BILL PROJECTS. I SUSPECT IN WE'LL BE SPENDING A LITTLE FOR REASONS I'LL DISCUSS IN JUST A SECOND. THERE ARE NO REMARKABLE ISSUES TO HIGHLIGHT THE INCREASE IS ABOUT 1.4% THAT INCLUDES INCREASES IN PERSONNEL AND BENEFITS, UTILITIES AND MAINTENANCE SERVICE -- SALARY INCREASE POOL REQUIRE TO IMPLEMENTATION.

A COUPLE OTHER VERY QUICK NOTES AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE THESE ARE BUDGET NUMBERS OVER 50,000 MEET OUR BOARD'S APPROVAL OUR CONTINUE STAFFING IS EXPECTED TO BE AT APPROXIMATELY 292 PEOPLE AS OF 9:30 OF THIS YEAR WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF SIX OVER LAST YEAR.

WE ANTICIPATE THE ADDITION OF FOUR NEW POSITIONS IN FY 2022. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION THEY ALL COME TO YOUR COMPENSATION CLASSIFICATIONS WE RUN TO MAKE -- MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACCEPTABLE IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT. THE REVENUE SECTION OF THE BUDGET DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY RATE EXCHANGES.

WE HAVE PERFORMED A RATE SUFFICIENCY AND FOUND THAT WATER WASTE WATER ARE STILL RATE DEFICIENT SO WE'RE VEAMENTING POTENTIAL RATE INCREASE BY THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION INDEX WHICH THIS YEAR IS VERY LOW IT'S ONLY 1.17% THAT RATE CHANGE WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED BY A BOARD IF WE IF WE DECIDE TO PROCEED.

IN RATE FUNDED CAPITAL THIS YEAR IS FOR TWO REASONS.

OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS WE RECEIVED OVER 5.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANTS PRIMARILY IN THE WASTE WATER AREA.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF RESTRUCTURING OUR DEBT OF KEVIN MILLION. BY REFINANCING THE DEBT TO A LOWER INTEREST RATE WE'RE TALKING PROBABLY LESS THAN 2% AND EXTENDING IT TO 2036 OUR DEBT WILL INCREASE TO 85 MILLION DOLLARS BUT WILL FREE UP 28 MILLION DOLLARS FOR MUCH NEEDED CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 65 MILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT WE'RE GOING TO RESTRUCTURE IT BELOW $85 MILLION BUT WE'LL BE GETTING $28 MILLION BACK FOR CAPITAL EXPANSION THAT'S BASED ON THE DIFFERENCE IN THE INTEREST RATES.

OUR DEBT COVERAGE RATIO SHOULD NOT CHANGE BASED ON

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OUR CURRENT REVENUES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND THE GRANTS WE RECEIVE WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE AND SO MUCH WE CAN DO. WE WILL PROBABLY SPEND MORE MONEY ONCE WE GET THE REFINANCING DONE ON THE EXPANSION PROJECTS. NEXT YEAR IS FPUA'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY. SO THE BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDS FOR CELEBRATING THIS MILESTONE.

WE STARTED WORKING ON DEVELOPING COMMUNITY-BASED AND EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION EVENTS TO COMMEMORATE WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT MILESTONE.

SO IF THAT NOT SO BRIEF INTRODUCTION I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TURN IT OVER TO BARBARA FOR HER TO DO HER

PRESENTATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

PROCEED BARBARA. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR HUDSON.

AND COMMISSIONERS GOOD EVENING.

I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU THE YUG BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH 2022.

AND AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 202021.

AS MR. TOMPECK MENTIONS THIS YEAR REPRESENTS OUR 50TH ANNIVERSARY SO WE HAVE AN ANNIVERSARY LOGO ALL THAT SEE THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

I'M PROUD OF THAT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO TORTURE

WITH A LOGO DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> OUR BUDGET WAS PREPARED WITH THE STRATEGIC FOCUS OF FPUA IN MIND. WORKING WITH THE CITY ON EXPANSION PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO HELP SUPPORT THE CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND THE CITY. OUR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THE PLAN TO BRING NEW BUSINESSES TO FORT PIERCE. THEY HAVE EXPANSION PROJECTS FOR THE GUEST SERVICE TERRITORY AND DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A SMART CITY IS PART OF THAT PLAN AS WELL. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET INCLUDES INCLUDING CAPITAL PROJECTS SUPPORT THE SHARED OBJECTIVES OF THE FUTURE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY AND ALSO PROVIDES FOR RELIABILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE MADE OVER TIME. WE HAVE MULTIYEAR STORM HARDENING PROJECTS THAT WILL IMPROVE OUR ELECTRIC RELIABILITY AND STRENGTHENING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO IMPROVES OUR RELIABILITY FOR OUR AGING WASTE WATER SYSTEM WITH OUR MAIN PROJECTS WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED GRANTS FOR. FPUA AND ITS EMPLOYEES HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN PRIDE IN THE ORGANIZATION SUPPORTING OUR CUSTOMERS THROUGH RELIABLE AND FRIENDLY SERVICE.

WE ALL LIVE, WORK AND VOLUNTEER IN THIS COMMUNITY PROMOTING A POSITIVE IMAGE FOR FPUA.

WE CONTINUE WITH OUR CUSTOME-BASED WEATHERIZATION, EDUCATION OUTREACH PROGRAM.

WITH PAYMENT OPTIONS AND OBTAINING FINANCIAL RELIEF FOR THEIR UTILITY BILLS. THE BUDGET IS FORMALLY AMENDED TWICE A YEAR. NOW AS WE PRESENT THE NEW YEAR'S BUDGET AND LATER AFTER WE FINISHED OUR FISCAL YEAR WITH THE FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT.

THE CALCULATION OF THE FUNDS WAS CAPITAL THE FUNDS AVAILABLE IS 5.2 MILLION AND FOR 2022 IT'S $10.8 MILLION.

ANY SHORTFALLS OR WE WILL SLOW DOWN ON OUR SPENDING ON OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. 2022 PROJECTED REVENUES IS INCREASES IN GENERAL AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICE SALES AND WE HAVE THE ANTICIPATION OF THE GRANT REVENUE FOR THAT WASTE WATER MAIN LINING PROJECTS OF $2 MILLION.

IN FISCAL YEAR 2022 OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS HAVE INCREASED AND THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO PERSONNEL AND RELATED COSTS FOR PERSONNEL.

AND THOSE CHANGES ARE FOR THE PERSONNEL DESCRIBED ON PAGES 31 AND 32 IN THIS BUDGET DOCUMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE APPROVE CARRY OVER FROM FISCAL YEAR 20 THAT WAS APPROVED TO CARRY OVER AND SPEND IN FISCAL

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YEAR 2021 OF $7 MILLION THAT IS WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT AMENDED CAPITAL. FISCAL YEAR INCLUDES ALMOST $9 MILLION WHICH ONLY MOVE FORWARD IF AND WHEN THE FINANCING IS RECEIVING. THE COSTS OF OUR PURCHASE POWER PROJECTED FOR 2021 IS 41% THAT'S THE RED PART OF THE BAR. 41% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET AND FOR 22 IT'S 40 PER OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.

THE COST OF OUR PURCHASE POWER IS NOT A NUMBER THAT WE CAN CONTROL BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON WHAT THE MARKET IS GOING TO BE PAYING FOR OUR POWER WE HAVE TO BUDGET IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS US TO TO BE SUFFICIENT IN THE BUDGET TO PAY FOR COSTS THAT HAPPEN.

WE USUALLY DON'T SPEND IT ALL AND WE HOPE THAT THAT HAPPENS. THAT'S WHY IT'S SUCH A LARGE PORTION. OUR REVENUES BY SYSTEM IN BUDGET DOCUMENT WE CAN SEE A STEADY OVERALL INCREASE YEAR AFTER YEAR PROJECTIONS SHOW SOME SYSTEM REVENUES, REVENUE INCREASES FOR GENERAL AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND THOSE ARE SOME WHAT BEING OFFSET BY DECREASES IN WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS. AND OUR WASTE WATERENCE ARE ARE 12%% HIGHER. THIS GIVES US A CLOSER LOOK ELECTRICKENCE ARE ARE PROJECTED TO BE 66.5 MILLION ABOUT 57% OF THE TOTAL FISCAL YEAR 2022.

THAT IS A 4.8% INCREASE 202021 NUMBER.

AND INCREASING ONLY THAT WILL INCLUDE FOR THE PSE INDEX IF THAT'S APPROVED THAT'S DIE TO THE EXPANSION PROJECT WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF SOME NEW CUSTOMERS COMING ON THE RATE FUNDED ORIGINAL BUDGETS INCLUDED THE NONCASH ITEMS. THE INCREASE IS PRIMARILY SOME PROFESSIONAL FEES MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND OUR UTILITIES EXPENSE. THEY ARE DOWN OR ANTICIPATED TO BE DOWN WITH OUR EFFORTS FEARED TOWARD THE SPENDING DOWN THE DEBT. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE RATE FUNDED POSSIBLY LESS IF WE ARE WITH THE DEBT ISSUANCE MONEY IN CONTRIBUTION PROJECTS FUNDED.

THIS COMPARES THE AND TREND IN OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT THE ACTUAL THE CREAN WE DO COME IN BELOW IT'S IN THE

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COST OF THE PURCHASE POWER IF WE BUDGET ENOUGH WE DON'T SPENDS IT -- SPENT IT ALL THAT'S A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE SAVING. THOSE EXPENSES ARE NOT CONTROLLABLE JUST HOW MUCH THE PURCHASE FOR THE ESTIMATED THAT WILL BE PAYABLE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IN ACTUAL AND ORIGINAL BUDGETS FOR WE TYPICALLY SPEND ABOUT 50% OF OUR CAPITAL BUDGET IN FISCAL YEAR 2020 WE SPENT MORE THAN ABOUT 75% OF THE CAPITAL AND THE CARRY OVER THAT WAS THE $17 MILLION THAT MR. TOMPECK REFERRED TO. THE ADVANCE DEPLOYMENT OF THE A.M.I. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND REGULATORY REQUIRED PROJECTS AND STORM HARDENING PROJECTS KINDS OF BOOSTED THAT FOR US. THE STRATEGIC FOCUS OF THE COMPANY DRIVES THE PROJECTS THAT WE ADDRESS IN THE CURRENT CAPITAL BUDGET AND IN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMNT PLAN. THE ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SYSTEM EXPANSION PROJECTS ACCOUNT FOR 13.3% OF THE 21 BUDGET CAPITAL BUDGET.

OUR STUDY 40% TO 50% OF THAT RATE FUNDED BY THE YEAR CAN BE SPENT WHILE MAINTAINING OUR MINIMUM BOND COUGHENTS IN FOR CASH. WE TYPICALLY -- COVENANTS FOR CASH. THAT'S BEST PRACTICES RECOMMENDED. AND IT IS EXPECTED THAT AS IN PRIOR YEARS ONLY A PORTION OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET WILL BE SPENT OF THAT $30 MILLION.

WE WON'T GET THERE WE JUST HAVE TO --.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 25% OF THE FISCAL YEAR 22 CAPITAL BUDGET IS EXPECTED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THAT NEW DEBT ISSUANCE. IT IS LIKELY THAT WORK WILL LIMIT THE RATE FUNDED AND EMERGENCIES THAT COME UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE WILL ALWAYS OF COURSE EVALUATE OUR CASH TO COVER ANY SHORTFALLS.

THE BUDGET PROCESS IS COMPLEX CHALLENGING AND TAKES A TEAM. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS AND THE EXPERTISE OF THE DIRECTORS, DEPARTMENT HEADS, STAFF AND IN PARTICULAR THE FINANCE STAFF FOR THE MANY HOURS OF TIME AND DEDICATION TO COMPLETING THIS BUDGET. IN CONCLUSION OF THIS PRESENTATION WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF RESOLUTION US 2021-03 ADAPTING A BUDGE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2021, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022, AND AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2020, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021. THANK YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU.

I KNOW IF I REMEMBER THE BOND COVENANT REQUIRES A 45 DAY DAYS OF CASH AND 90 IS INDUSRY ACCEPTABLE AMOUNT.

I KNOW HOW CLOSE WE GOT TO 12 OR 13 IN MY STAY ON THE

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UTILITY AUTHORITY WAY BACK WHEN.

WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW ON DAYS OF CASH?

>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROBABLY WELL, WE WERE DOING WELL BEFORE WE PAID THE CITY DISTRIBUTION.

>> YOU GOT TO PAY THE DISTRIBUTION.

>> IT NORMALLY DIPS AT THAT TIME OF THE YEAR.

>> WE'RE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND I THINK 86 DAYS OR 88

DAYS AT THE END OF JUNE. >> NORMALLY, IF I REMEMBER WE USED TO TRACK THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND MARCH BEFORE THE DISTRIBUTION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE LOOKING REALLY GOOD.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT. ANOTHER THING I'VE ALWAYS KEPT TRACK OF IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS AN OBJECTIVE OF THE UTILITY AUTHORITY TO HAVE EVERY DEPARTMENT HANDLE ITS OWN EXPENSES AND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME ELECTRIC WAS SUPPORTING THE WATER SYSTEMS AND I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT STILL GOING ON? ARE ALL DEPARTMENTS MAKING ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER THEIR EXPENSES?

>> YES, THAT'S THE REASON WE DO THE RATE SUFFICIENCY ON INDIVIDUAL OPERATION UNIT WATER WASTE WATER, GAS,

ELECTRIC AND YES. >> THAT'S JUST HAPPENED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO I WOULD IMAGINE.

>> I THINK WE'VE BEEN MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION NOR QUITE A WHILE BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WE'RE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT IN THE CHARTER.

>> AND I KNOW WE WERE ALWAYS EXCITED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE GOING TO RETIRE THIS DEBT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE A UTILITY AND IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND RENEWALS AND REPLACEMENTS ARE A BIG CHARGE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. I WOULD GUESTIMATE THAT STILL 50% OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE IN FORT PIERCE IS AS OLD AS FORT PIERCE.

SO WE'RE AT $65 MILLION IN DEBT, WE'RE GOING TO $85 MILLION IN DEBT AND BY RETIRING THE DEBT TO A LOWER INTEREST RATE YOU ARE GOING TO COME OUT WITH $28 MILLION,

IS THAT RIGHT? >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE $28 MILLION OVER HOW MANY WHAT PERIOD OF

TIME? >> I THINK IN ORDER TO EP CONTAMINATE TAX EXEMPT THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT IN THE

THREE YEARS. >> OKAY.

>> WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WILL DO IS WE WANT TO FINISH A.M.I. FASTER.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT STRETCHED OUT TO FIVE OR SIX YEARS. IT WILL TAKE FOREVER.

WE WANT TO GET IT FINISHED. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT GETS FINISHED IN THREE YEARS. WE HAVE SOME OTHER CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF LIKE, MINUTES FROM, GAS EXPANSION WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW GATE STATION IN NORTH COUNTY. AND FOR RELIABILITY REASONS THE LOOPING THE GAS BACK TO KINGS HIGHWAY OR EVEN U.S.

1. WE THINK THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL THERE'S SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT UP THERE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT LAKEWOOD PARK AS A POTENTIAL FOR ADDING SOME CUSTOMERS.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL WATER AND WASTE WATER EXPANSION PROJECTS AND I DON'T HAVE THE LIST HANDY.

BUT WHAT BO HUTCHINSON AND HIS GROUP HAVE DONE HAVE TARGETED AREAS WITH WHAT HE TERMS LOW HANGING FRUIT.

WHERE WE HAVE MAINS AND SERVICES AVAILABLE SO WE CAN GO IN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE IS YOU'RE BEING SQUEEZED BY EXPENSES. SO HOW DO YOU GET OUT OF THAT VEZ THE WAY YOU GET OUTEE OF THE SQUEEZE IS TO GET MORE CUSTOMERS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE HAVE DONE A CAPITAL EXPANSION I DON'T THINK WE HAVE.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE LIMITATIONS OTHER THAN BEING IN SERVICE TERRITORY WITH OUR COUNTY AND LOCAL AGREEMENT. THE SAME THING WITH I THINK THERE'S SOME MARVELOUS OPPORTUNITIES THERE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPLORING PUSHING AND I THINK NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS HOPEFULLY I CAN COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION AND TALK TO YOU ABOING ON IN

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YOUR CAPITAL PROJECT IS ANY OF THIS IN THE ANTICIPATION OF MOVING THE WASTE WATER PLANT IS THAT INCLUDED IN

ANY OF THIS $28 MILLION. >> NO, IT'S NOT.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN YOU KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO PUT THIS BUDGET TOGETHER IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH THE BUDGET PROCESS IS TOO LONG BUT THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES US. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE DIRECTION WE WERE HEADING ON THE ON THE EXPANSION RELOCATING THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET BUT OTHER THAN THAT NOW WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE THAT TIME BO AND I HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS BUT I THINK BASED ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SOME OF THIS AT TOMORROW'S BOARD MEETING IN TERMS OF A PROCESS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE AND IT'S CALLED A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL WE THINK IT'S THE MOST EXPEDITIOUS WAY TO GET THE PLANT MOVING OFF THE ISLAND. WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME MORE MONEY THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN THE PROPOSALS.

I SUSPECT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE 2.50 TO $3 MILLION RANGE FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT WHICH IS THE ESSENTIALLY THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD UP TO 30% COMPLETION PART. WHY THAT'S CRITICAL AND IF YOU TUNE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING IF YOU TUNE INTO THE MEETING TOMORROW YOU WILL FIND OUT WHY THE 30% MARK IS SO CRITICAL WHY THE TIMING IS SO IMPORTANT TO GET THERE NOW THERE'S A TON OF GRANTS OUT THERE.

SO THE EARLIER WE CAN GET TO THE 30% MARK IS ABOUT THE EARLIEST YOU CAN REALLY CONVINCE THE GRANTING AUTHORITIES THAT YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT A PROJECT.

YOU CAN'T GO TO THEM AND SAY YEAR WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IN A FEW YEARS CAN YOU GIVET- US SOME MONEY.

THEY WANT TO SEE SOME DESIGN DETAILS.

ANY WANT TO SEE A 30% DESIGN.

WE WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO I'M SUSPECTED THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY.

WE'LL PROBABLY DO SOME BUDGET JUGGLING WHICH WE'VE DONE FROM TIME TO TIME. OR WE'LL USE SOME OF OUR

UNRESTRICTED CASH. >> I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE.

>> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK MY EARS PERKED UP ON A COUPLE THINGS. I'M A MARKET SORRY I KNOW THE MORE YOU EXPAND YOUR MARKET THE MORE YOU BRING IN REVENUES IT SHOWS IN CASH POSITIONS INVESTMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES. YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A.M.I. RIGHT, AND SPEEDING THAT UP TIME FRAME OF THAT EXPANSION AND ROLLOUT, RIGHT.

>> YES, SIR. >> YOU KNOW WE ARE SPREAD OUT OVER FIVE TO SIX YEARS. WE WANT IT DONE IN THE NEXT

THREE. >> SO, JUST APPEASE ME FOR A SECOND WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW WITH THAT? A.M.I. THAT'S A CRITICAL CONCERN THAT I HAVE AS YOU KNOW THAT'S THE ADVANCE METEORINGER ON LIKE ELECTRONIC METERING SYSTEM. SMART METERS CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT IN RECOGNIZING DISPARITIES AND RATES IF THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY GOING WRONG YOU ARE PROBABLY ABLE TO PICK IT UP AS A RESULT OF YOUR SMARTPHONE TO COMMUNICATE IT. I THINK THERE WAS A POWER LOSS TO HELP OUR CONSUMERS TO UNDERSTAND THE USE OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW OF THE EXACT NUMBERS OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

I WOULD GUESS WELL, I SHOULDN'T GUESS.

SOMEWHERE IN THE 15 TO 20% STAGE.

WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH FINISHED THE PILOT PROGRAM WE'RE MOVING OUT TO OTHER AREAS. I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING THERE IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF THE THE RECEIVING EQUIPMENT AND TRANSMITTING EQUIPMENT THAT'S, THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

MOST OF THAT IS ON ORDER AND IT'S BEING NUT AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO FASTER AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE CITY.

REMEMBER WE STARTED AT THE END POINTS AND THE END

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POINTS FOR US ARE NOT JUST THE CITY LIMITS WE GO DOWN FOR GAS WE GO DOWN PAST POWER PLANT FOR WATER.

SO WE WANTED TO TEST THE EXTREMES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM WAS GOING TO WORK SATISFACTORILY.

>> SO I THINK WE'LL PICK UP SOME I THINK WE'LL PICK UP SOME STEAM HERE SHORTLY. IS THERE A NUMBER.

>> I IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE HAVE $6 MILLION IN THE BUDGET TO COMPLETE THE A.M.I. ALMOST 2.5 MILLION IS

IN NEXT. >> IN ABOUT THREE YEARS WE SHOULD HAVE NEARLY MOST OF THE CITY COMPLETELY WITH

THIS. >> YOU HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR THE THREE YEARS. THE REASON I SAY THAT PEOPLE WATCHING THIS RIGHT AND SPECIFICALLY WAS ASKED ABOUT THE METERING PROCESS AND WHEN DOES IT COME IN AS PEOPLE AS PEOPLE CALL IT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE QUICKER LIKE I SAID I HAVE SOME CONCERNS HERE ABOUT OUR METERING PROCESS AND THE ABILITY FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT METER AND TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR IT YOU CAN PROBABLY HAVE APPLE ON YOUR PHONE AND UNDERSTAND IT, RIGHT. IT MAKES ME SMARTER ABOUT -- YOU TALK ABOUT THIS $29 MILLION SAVINGS.

YOU KNOW, ANY PLANS OF MOVING THAT TO MORE PROGRESSIVE WEATHERIZATION PROCESSES FOR OUR OLDER STOCK OF HOMES HERE IN OUR AGING POPULATION SO WE CAN REALIZE ENERGY EFFICIENCY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.

>> I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF IT.

>> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE WANT TO BE IN TERMS OF GETTING CUSTOMERS.

WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF MONEY. WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY IN THE EXISTING BUDGET TO HANDLE WHAT WE EXPECT THE LOAD COULD POSSIBLY BE. WE'RE STILL HAVING TROUBLE

ATTRACTING PEOPLE. >> WELL, IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT MY COMMENT IS I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT WORD OUT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO WE ARE PUTTING MORE MONEY TOWARDS THOSE PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT MONEY RUNS OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. SOME OF THESE PROJECTS I THINK WE GOT TO THINK A LITTLE MORE CREATIVELY COME IT COMES TO ENERGY AND THE CONSUMPTION OF HOW WE PROVIDE THAT ON A COST EFFECTIVE BASE SOMETIMES THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN PUTTING A STRIPPING AROUND A WINDOW. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MAYBE BLOWING THE INSULATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT EQUIPPED TO GET ENERGY EFFICIENTLY.

HOW THEY ARE USING IT TO COOL THEIR SYSTEMS OR HOUSES IS NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY.

THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE. YOU KNOW I'M A BILL PROPONENT WHO LOVED THIS THAT'S WHY I WANT TO TRY TO

HELP WITH THAT. >> IT'S NOT JUST THE WEATHERIZATION PROBLEM WE HAVE OTHER SO YOU ARES TO HELP PEOPLE WITH AIR CONDITIONING OR LEAKING ROOFS OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TOLD ME ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND YOU'RE RIGHT SOME OF THIS THIS IS CERTAINLY A TRUST ISSUE. TO THAT END WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD AT THE MEETING WE ARE BROUGHT THAT GROUP TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK SEE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO US DO TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS, INCREASE THEIR TRUST OR IF ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET

DONE. >> MR. J. JOHNSON.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS YOU KNOW IT'S MY FAVORITE.

YOU TALKED ABOUT BUDGETING $30 MILLION WE WILL ACTUALLY SPEND OR PLAN FOR ABOUT 13 MILLION OR $14 MILLION I THINK YOU SAID. SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.

>> WHAT HAPPENS TO WITH THE MONIES WHAT HAPPENS WITH

THIS? >> WHAT WE DO IS WE VEAMENT THE PROJECTS THAT REMAIN THAT ARE IN PROCESS AT THENED OF THE YEAR THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BUT THERE'S AN END IN SIGHT AND THEN WE DEVELOP THE CARRY OVER AMOUNT THAT STAYS WITH ME CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF YOU CAN ONLY SPEND IT ON THAT CARRY A PORTION OF THAT INTO THE NEW YEAR. WE'RE NOT FINISHING FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE 29 MILLION HAS QUALIFIED BASED ON IT'S

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ALREADY BEEN PROJECT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY. WE HAVE PREPARED CARRY OVER.

THE REST OF IT JUST GOES AWAY.

SO IT'S IN THERE BUT WE JUST DON'T SPEND IT.

>> SO SOME OF IT IS REJECTED THE MONEY IT STAYS IN THE GENERAL FUND IT STAYS AS PART OF OUR UNRESTRICTED

CASH UNLESS IT'S RESTRICTED. >> THE REASON WE EXPECT A LITTLE BIT LESS IN RATES FUNDED MONEY IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE SPENDING MONEY FOR THE GRANTS AND ALSO

SOMETHING FOR THE NEW DEBT. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO, SO I'LL RELATE THE CAPITAL SO THE AGGRESSIVE PLAN THAT THE COUNTY AND BOTH CITIES SALES TAX FOR IMPROVING OUR ROADS, SIDEWALKS AND OUR STORM WATER AND WATERWAYS. SO WE HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE PLAN. ARE YOU PREPARED IN YOUR BUDGET TO COVER ALL THE PROJECTS AND YOU HAVE COORDINATED WITH STAFF IN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE PROJECTS DON'T DELAY. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DELAY.

WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY. WE HAVE AN EVALUATION TEAM AND AN AUDIT COMMITTEE ARE WE PREPARED TO SPEND MONEY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS.

>> YES, WE ARE. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SPECIFICS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND SOMETIMES I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY. WE'RE ALWAYS THERE TO SUPPORT ANY INFRASTRUCTUE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY

THE CITY OR BY THE COUNTY. >> SOMETIMES THAT'S A BIG HIT ON YOUR BUDGET. IT TRULY IS.

YOU MIGHT NOT ANTICIPATE IT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY AND CITY BOTH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WE'RE IN YOUR TERRITORY. IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE U.V. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. YOU TALKED ABOUT MAINLY AT PERSONNEL. SO, SO WE'VE COME OFF A YEAR NOT ONLY AS A CITY COMMISSIONER SITTING AS A T.P.O. CHAIR LOOKING AT STAFF INCREASES IN SALARIES AND ACROSS THE BOARD I WOULD SAY IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY WAS ABOUT 3% YOU ARE PROPOSING A 3% OR FOUR.

>>% 4% WAS RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE COMPENSATION CONSULTANT. THE FACT SOME OF THOSE THEY'RE STARTING TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THEY EXPECT THE JOB MARKET TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OPEN POSITIONS NOW THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR A WHILE.

WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE ATRACKING CANDIDATES.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT AN EXISTING EMPLOYEES BEING INCREASED BY 4%. I UNDERSTAND THE PAY RANGE AND THE MINIMUM WAGE AND YOU KNOW WE EVEN STARTED THAT ON OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION OF MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE COMPRESSION OF WITHIN THE LOWER GRADE TO THE UPPER YOU ARE SQUEEZING IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE THE $15 INCREASE OVER THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY MONTHS NOT 15 HOUR INCREASE. THE BASE RATE BEING $15 AN HOUR. I JUST WOULD, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO HEAVILY CONSIDER IN YOUR BUDGET IF IT'S NOT IF YOU BUDGETED 4% EVERYWHERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY THAT I'M AWARE IT'S 3%. THERE ARE MORALE ISSUES THAT DEAL WITH THIS. THEY ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE PANDEMIC. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PART OF THE BUDGET THAT IS. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST.

I WILL JUST STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT.

SO THE OTHER QUESTION I WILL HAVE IS SALARIES OR EMPLOYEES AND F.T. ERNGSS YOU ARE INCREASING BY FOUR

OR EIGHT. >> BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST AND

OCTOBER 1ST NEXT YEAR, YES. >> FOUR.

>> YES. >> OKAY, SO IT'S FOUR.

ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT LIKE SIX OR EIGHT.

>> THERE'S SIX THIS YEAR. THE CURRENT YEAR.

INCREASED BY SIX AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR.

>> THIS YEAR. THEN FOUR NEXT YEAR.

>> LIKE I SAY WE HAVE QUITE A FEW POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO GET

THERE. >> A COUPLE OF THOSE NEW

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POSITIONS ARE FPUA NET. AREN'T THEY IF I'M

REMEMBERING RIGHTLY. >> I BELIEVE THEY ARE, YES.

>> SO, WITH ALL THAT THAT'S HAPPENING IT'S OFF BALANCE I UNDERSTAND. YOU GOT A STRATEGIC PLAN IN PLACE YOU HAVE EMPLOYEE INCREASES FORECASTED.

GOING BACK TO CIP HOW MUCH DID YOU INCREASE ANY OF YOUR CONSULTANT HAVE YOU INCREASED THE BUDGET FOR THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE HAVE A BIGGER TEAM.

INSTEAD OF INCREASING IT BY F.P.S AND MAYBE YOU KNOW CONSULTING FEES WE CAN HAVE MORE PROJECTS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I THINK I TRIED TO EXPLAIN EARLIER ONE OF THE DAYS WE NEEDED TO CHANGE WE NEEDED TO MAKE TO SPEND MORE MONEY WAS TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL UNIT PRICE CONTRACT. A LOT MORE PEOPLE ON BOARD UNDER A LOT DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES THAN WE HAD BEFORE. SO I THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION TO DO MORE MORE DESIGN BUILDS THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH A LITTLE BIT IS YOU KNOW, FREE MONEY IS REALLY EXPENSIVE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO HANDLE GRANT REPORTING STUFF AND CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS SO WE'RE EVEN THINKING ABOUT BRINGING ON SOME ADDITIONAL HELP JUST FOR INTERNALLY TO HELP WITH A GREAT ADMINISTRATION AND GRANT PREPARATION.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN VERY GOOD FOR US YOU KNOW IN DEALING WITH THE FOLKS IN TALLAHASSEE AND BUT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE HELP. WE'RE DROWNING IN GRANT APPLICATIONS. THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY OUT THERE WE JUST NEED TO GO AFTER CONTINUE TO GO AFTER

TO AND BE AS SUCCESSFUL. >> I AGREE WITH YOU.

THINK THAT I MONEY WELL SPENT.

IT'S GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF AND YOU ARE GOING TO BRING MORE MONEY TO THE COMMUNITY TO HELP YOUR CAUSE.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW THAT'S LIKE HAVINGPA SR ENGINEER IN THE OFFICE YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN ALL THE PROJECT THROUGH THAT PERSON TO DO ALL THE LINE WORK THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SPANSIVENESS OF AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. ALLOW THAT PERSON TO BE A CONTRACT MANAGER AND LET THEM RUN 10 CONTRACTS, 10 CONSULTANTS ALL AT THE SAME TIME RUNNING THESE THINGS IN PARALLEL. YOU GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR DOLLARS. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS EITHER BUT I HOPE YOU'VE CONSIDERED EXPANDING THAT I THINK I TALKED ABOUT THE

SALARY. >> A LOT OF OPTIONS A LOT OF DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT. LOTS OF WANTS INTERNALLY I'M SURE. HOW DO YOU GRAB THAT MONEY AND SPENDS IT IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

I BROUGHT UP THE SIR TAX. WE HAVE HEARD FROM -- SURTAX, WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER COMMISSIONS.

I CONSIDER THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT PROPERTY NEW DISCUSSES. WITHLY SELL MORE GAS, NOT GAS, WATER, WASTE WATER AS SOON AS WE MOVE THE PLANT OUT OF THE WAY. TO ME THAT'S INVESTING IN EXPANSION. WE'RE MOVING SOMETHING.

SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT WE CAN GAIN MORE CUSTOMERS.

SO WE CAN HAVE MORE. IT'S A DIFFERENT CUSTOMER IN

A DIFFERENT USE, YOU KNOW. >> OH, IT'S, I DON'T EXACTLY LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OF COURSE THERE'S OTHER OTHER ISSUES HERE'S. THE MONEY IS JUST NOT FOR EXPANSION YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MOVING THAT JUST BECAUSE OF EXPANSION WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

>> OH, NO I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.

AGREE. AGREE.

I JUST LOOKING AT IT THERE'S MULTILAYERS TO IT.

IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE US MORE WATER CUSTOMERS AND WASTE WATER CUSTOMERS AT THE END OF THE DAY.

IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN CONTINUE THAT FOCUS AND THAT MOMENTUM AND THIS FREE MONEY TRYING TO GAIN THE FREE MONEY, THE GRANTS, AND GETTING THAT PLANT OUT OF

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OUR WAY I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BENEFIT US IN THE LONG RUN. HAVING AN AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM TO EXPAND THE CAPITAL TO DO THE DOWNTOWN MAIN AND GET IT MOVING WEST AND GETTING YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 30% DESIGN, RIGHT. HAVE QUESTION GIVEN UP ON

THE P.P.P. OPTIONS OR? >> WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

I ENCOURAGE TO YOU ATTEND THE MEETING OR LISTEN IN.

WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THE OPTIONS.

BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD IS SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER TO GET THE PLANT DONE. BASED ON YOUR DISCUSSIONS THAT SEEM TO BE MAJOR CONCERN AND DOING IT AS FAST. WE'LL HAVE A DETAILS DISCUSSION TOMORROW ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME REQUIRED FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL PROCESS WHETHER IT BE A DESIGN I GUESS A DESIGN BILL BUILD A NORMAL RFQ OR EVEN A P.P.E. YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF THE TIME AND I THINK THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL I THINK YOU WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH. I THINK YOU WILL LOOK AT AND SAY THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THIS DONE AND DOING IT

RIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> IS SOMEONE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION? FOR APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE BUDGET. COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTUALLY I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE 30 DAY APPROVAL FOR THE 2022 ANNUAL

BUDGET AND THE AMENDED 2021. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND WITH DISCUSSION AND NOT COME ON THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WENT WITH

THAT? >> YES.

IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT WE CAN APPROVE IT AND IT WILL KICK IN IN 30 DAYS. HE HADN'T HAD ANY DISAPPROVAL IN OUR DISCUSSION YOU KNOW THE 30 DAYS GIVES YOU THAT TIME SINCE THERE ISN'T ANY I HAVE ALWAYS WAIVED THE 30 DAYS AND JUST TO PROVE ON THE

SPOT AS WE GO. >> IT'S JUST PRECEDENT.

>> I SET A PRECEDENT 12 TIMES ALREADY.

THIS IS NEW FOR ME COMMISSIONER PERONA.

SO I'M WONDERING WHERE IS THE TRICK HERE.

>> YOU THINK HE WOULD TRICK YOU?

>> YES. >> GOOD MAN.

HE KNOWS ME WELL. IT'S THE CITIZENS ALSO THAT'S OKAY. YOU SECONDED.

>> I DID SECOND IT. YES DY.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION FROM YOU.

ALL THE CALL PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHTY.

[b. Resolution 21-R45 designating property located at 809 North 9th Street as a Fort Pierce Historic Property and a Locally Significant Site.]

OKAY, LET'S SEE. >> NEXT WE SERVICE ON TO RESOLUTION 2121-445 DESIGNATING 909 NORTH NINTH STREET AS FORT HERE'S HISTORY WITH THE NAME OF WELFARE HOME FOR BLACKS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MR. MIMMS.

>> THIS IS A PROJECT AND A SITE THAT WAS AT THE CENTER OF I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND IT IS LONG OVERDUE. WE DO HAVE OUR HISTORIC PRESENTATION PLANNER AT THE TABLE BEFORE YOU.

FOR ONE OF OUR GREAT RESIDENTS THAT IS LAID TO REST HERE IN BEAUTIFUL FORT PIERCE.

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>>. >> CITY COMMISSIONERS THIS WELFARE HOME FOR BLACKS. AND THE ADDRESS 909 NINTH STREET AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A LITTLE CORRECTION ON THE AGENDA THE FIRST LINE IT STATES THAT THE ADDRESS IS 908 WHICH IS REVERSE NUMBERS BECAUSE BASICALLY THIS IS 809 NORTH NINTH STREET. FOR THIS PROPERTY NUMBER 21 R-45. BASED ON TWO DESTINATION CRITERIA. THE SECOND WAS WAS THIS SIGNIFICANT PERSON. AND AND THE BUILDING IS WAS USED HOME FOR BLACKS COULD RECEIVE HER.

PLAYWRIGHT RENE 1960 FOR HER LAST YEAR AND SHE PASSED AWAY IN THIS BUILDING ON JANUARY 28TH, 1960.

WHERE THERE'S AN EXHIBIT ON DISPLAY SOME ITEMS LIKE REPLICA'S EXETER. ON MAY 24, RECOMMENDED AND NOW THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

SO I HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES.

WELL, SEVERAL TIMES ACTUALLY.

AND I HAVE A MAP AN OLD MAP FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND IT SAYS THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY WELFARE HOME IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT ON THE MAP.

SO WHAT AND I'M VERY MUCH SUPPORT THIS WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO THE APPLICANT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO TO THE BUILDING TONY KIND OF HE HAS BEENATION WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THEM. BASICALLY, WHAT IT MEANS THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THE CHANGES TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

MINOR CHANGES TO DO THE MAJOR CHANGES THE BUILDING IS NOT DESIGNATED FOR ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE IT'S JUST FOR HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.

WHAT THAT ANSWER IN A PRACTICAL FASHION.

ALSO YOU KNOW SINCE THE BUILDING WOULD EBB DESIGNATED THEY CAN APPLY FOR SEVERAL STATE GRANTS FOR

THESE KIND OF BUILDINGS. >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT MADAM MAYOR I WAS JUST IN THAT BUILDING A COUPLE DAYS AGO. I SAW SOME STUFF THERE I HAVE KIND OF CONCERNED WHEN I SAW THE DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT, TOO. AND SO THINGS HISTORIC BOARD

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SHOULD PROBABLY MEET WITH FAVORABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING REPLACING DOORS AND MAYBE PUTTING IN SOME FLOORING HERE AND THERE AND THAT KIND OF THING, RIGHT?

OKAY. >> THIS OPENED UP THE POINTS FOR GRANTS OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DESIGNATED HISTORIC

SITES. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I WILL GLADLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS FORT PIERCE HISTORIC PROPERTY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU FOR WAITING ALL NIGHT LONG FOR THIS VOTE.

[c. Resolution 21-R46 Establishing a Special Election in the City of Fort Pierce.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-R-46 RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE SETTING A DATE FOR SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF FILLING THE VACANCY OF CITY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 1 SEAT 5 ESTABLISHING A QUALIFYING PERIOD AND ESTABLISHING DATE FOR RUNOFF ELECTION IF NECESSARY AFTER THE SPECIAL ELECTION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> THE ELECTION DATE THE SPECIAL ELECTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 7TH, 2021.

THE QUALIFYING PERIOD WILL BE FROM SEPTEMBER 132021 AT NOON AND CLOSE ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2021 AT NOON AND THEN IN THE EVENT THAT THAT NO ONE INDIVIDUAL RECEIVED 50% PLUS ONE HAVING A RUN OFF ELECTION.

>> IF THERE IS THREE CANDIDATES MORE THAN TWO

CANDIDATES, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

I'M SORRY. IF THERE'S MORE THAN TWO

CANDIDATES. >> WE JUST DID FIRST READING TONIGHT THIS WE HAVE ONE MORE SECOND READING PRIOR TO THIS. THAT WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR THIS. ALSO I READ IN THE DETAILS INSIDE OF THIS PACK THEAT WERE WAYS PEOPLE COULD QUALIFY MEANING THROUGH PETITIONS COULD WE TALK ABOUT THAT ON RECORD SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT THEY MAY NOT GET TO THAT THE NUMBER OF THRESHOLD THE MEET

IS A LITTLE LOWER. >> IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFF -- I THINK THE NUMBER IS

26. >> I THINK ITS CONTRIBUTION.

>> BECAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL ELECTION IT'S FOURTH OF THE 1% THAT IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. NARROWING OF TIME.

>> 26 SIGNED PETITIONS BY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERSON IN DISTRICT ONE AND THEN THAT'S DUE BY I

THOUGHT 30TH AUGUST. >> I THINK IT'S 30TH AUGUST.

>> IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN RUNNING WE HAVE THE PACKET RUNNING AND THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION ALSO JUST GAVE US THE DATES THAT ALL THE FINANCIAL REPORTING WILL BE DONE. SO I'LL HAVE TO ADD THAT TO THE PACKET. WE HAVE ALL THOSE DATES.

PEOPLE WATCHING. >> NOBODY IS TRYING TO NOT HAVE THIS ELECTION IT IS HAPPEING.

WE JUST NEEDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE DATES TOGETHER WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.

>> SAY AGAIN QUALIFYING DATES ARE SEPTEMBER 13TH 2021 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 17TH 2021.

>> SO WE WILL HAVE HAD THE SECOND READING OF THE BY

THEN. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND READING BY THEN.

>> MA'AM. THIS IS FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER WHICH -- COULD HAVE BEEN NOVEMBER OF 2022. SO ANYONE THAT RUNS IN THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO HAVE TO RUN AGAIN.

>> RUN AGAIN. SO IF YOU'RE IN RUNOFF IT'S DETERMINED IN FEBRUARY YOU BROUGHT IN THEND OF FEBRUARY YOU HAVE ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS BEFORE YOU ARE GOING

TO HAVE TO RUN AGAIN. >> CORRECT.

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>> MAYBE A FEW MONTHS. I THINK THE QUALIFYING PERIOD IS ACTUALLY IN JUNE. THEN THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN VOTE IN THIS ELECTION ARE THE RESIDENTS OF THAT DISTRICT 1. WE PUT THAT MAP OUT THERE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT DISTRICT OKAY SO ON THE WEBSITE AND SO THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT I THINK COMMISSIONERS AND IT HAS BEEN LEARNING I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN MY CONVERSATION WHEN I RAN AND I HAD I ENGAGED CONSTITUENTS THEY WERE THERE WAS SOME FOGGINESS ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES OF DISTRICT 1 THIS WILL HELP TO FURTHER CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE BOUNDARIES TO DISTRICT ONE THEY ARE -- THEY STEMMEDDED PRETTY FAR WEST.

AND THEY KIND OF ZIGZAG THROUGH A FEW NEIGHBORHOODS BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU LIVE IN AND VOTE IN AND THAT'S VERY VERY IMPORTANT. I MUST SAY THAT.

MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION I'M SORRY I'M READING THE WRONG ONE. MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-46 ESTABLISHING SPECIAL ELECTION.

WHY THERE IS A SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[d. Resolution 21-R47 appointing an at-large member to the Planning Board.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-447 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER TO THE CITY PLANNING BOARD AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

WE HAVE BALLOTS THIS IS ONE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO CHOOSE ONE MEMBER. IT'S AN AT LARGE SEAT.

THE CURRENT MEMBER HAS ALSO REAPPLIED SO IF YOU WILL JUST CHOOSE ONE AND SEND IT BACK.

I WILL FILL IT OUT FOR YOU.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON SELECTED MICHELLE CLEMENS.

COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON SELECTED CHRISTINA HEYNS COMMISSIONER PERONA SELECTED CLEMENS AND MAYOR HUDSON CLEMENS. CLEMENS WILL BE REAPPOINTED

TO THE PLANNING BOARD. >> I -- THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[e. Resolution No. 21-R48 appointing Barbara Marshall-Bennett to serve as the District 1 representative on the FPUA Board, filling the unexpired term of Charlie Frank Matthews.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-448 A RESOLUTION THE CITY COMMISSION CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF A DISTRICT 1 MINUTE OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY BOARD AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHTY. COMMISSIONER C-JOHNSON WOULD

YOU LIKE TO SPEAK. >> I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK.

MADAM MAYOR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR ONLYING THIS. DUE TO MY LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE I WILL ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT WE HAD -- BECAUSE HE WAS A FORMER EMPLOYEE WITH THAT BEING SAID A CANDIDATE THAT I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH AND I'M REALLY HONORED AND ESTEEMED THAT THIS YOUNG LADY HAS DECIDED TO STEP UP IN THIS MAJOR LEADERSHIP ROLE. I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS HISTORIC IN NATURE FOR THIS COMMISSION AND FOR FPUA BARBARA MARSHAL BENNETT SHE'S HAS A MINISTRY AND IS A LOCAL PASTOR SHE LIVES IN THE DISTRICT AND UNDERSTANDS

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THE NEEDS AND WILLING TO DO THE WORK TO HELP FOSTER THOSE COMMUNITY UNITY-TYPE THINGS.

IN 2021 THIS IS HISTORIC IN NATURE BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE APPOINTED TO FPUA BOARD. I CAN THINK OF NO FINER REPRESENTATION THAN A LADY THAT SERVES US IN HER RELIGIOUS PASSENGER AS A PASTOR TO LEAD THE WAY WITH THAT. TO FULFILL THIS UNEXPIRED

TERM OF MR. MATTHEWS. >> IS THAT A MOTION.

>> SO WITH THAT I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 21 R-48 APPOINTING BARBARA MARSHAL BENEFITET TO SERVE AS DISTRICT 1 REPRESENTATIVE FULFILLING THE UNEXPIRED

TERM. >> IS THERE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> IS THERE A DISCUSSION?

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.