[Call to Order]
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RESIDENT OF FT. PIERCE AND THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY.
KEEP OUR EMPLOYEE AND CITY RESIDENT IN YOUR LOVING CARE
IN JESUS CHRIST, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WITH ONE NATION UNDER GOT INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ROLL. >> MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR IN A NEW BOARD MEMBER TODAY. AND THAT WOULD BE MISS BARBARA BENNETT. I BELIEVE MISS COX IS GOING
TO SWEAR YOU IN. >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. I BARBARA MARSHALL BENNETT, A CITIZEN OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND BEING EMPLOYED BY OR AN OFFICER OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, AND RECIPIENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS, AS SUCH EMPLOYER OFFICER, TO HEARBY SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM, THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ARE NOW A BOARD MEMBER.
CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.
>> CONGRATULATIONS, AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD.
>> THANK YOU. >> MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE RECALL THE ROLL.
[A. SET THE AGENDA]
>> I'M SURE EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA DOES ANYONE WANT TO SET THE ALLEGED.
I WILL MOVE TO SET THE ACADEMY.
>> SECOND. >> WE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:]
FROM -- ACTUALLY HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TOREVIEW THE MINUTES? >> MOVE APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MADAM, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[C. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC:]
>> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? IF SO PLEASE COME TO PODIUM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THREE
I'M A CUSTOMER OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY.
MY BILLS ARE AROUND $6,000. I WAS LOOKING AT E-MAILS IN REGARD TO MY ACCOUNT AND IN REGARDS TO ME.
ONE WHERE I MADE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RESPONDED WITH REGARDS TO THAT AND SAID PLEASE ASSEMBLE THE PACKAGE AND WE WILL ASSEMBLE THE PACKAGE AND SEND THEM TO RICK REID.
HE'S THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.
WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> I KNOW YOU WON'T ANSWER.
JUST IGNORANCE. THAT'S HOW YOU TREAT A
THERE WAS A E-MAIL SENT FROM A BOARD MEMBER TO ALL OF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH THE ATTORNEY AND THE HEADLINE WAS OF WHICH OUR MAYOR RESPONDED THE SUBJECT
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MATTER WAS STRIKE BACK. STRIKE BACK.THEN YOU ALL FEEL FOGGY. IF RICK REID STARTS ON US TONIGHT AT THE COMMISSION MEETING I PLAN TO REACH AN ATTACHED ARTICLE FROM TRIBUNE AND RELATING TO AMOUNT OF MONEY HE COST THE CITY AND IS ATTEMPT TO BE CONCERNED CITIZEN. YOU ALL COULDN'T CARRY MY SHOES TO THE OUT HOUSE IN WHAT I CONTRIBUTE.
HOW DARE YOU ALL. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE DONE THE MAYOR SERVINGS ON THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, I LOOKED IT UP JUST A WHILE AGO.
IF A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD ARE INCLUDED IN ANY E-MAIL RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS IS THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ACT VIOLATED? WE VOTED ON ME SEVERAL TIMES. YES, THERE'S A LIKELY VIOLATION OF THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING.
QUORUM OF THE BOARD. EXCHANGES E-MAIL IN WHICH PUBLIC BUSINESS IS DISCUSSED.
YOU MUST HAVE BEEN MEDICATED THAT DAY.
THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE -- THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FROM BDB. LINDA I WAS PLEASED AT YOUR PRESENTATION. IT'S APPARENT TO ME THAT THE FORMER STRUCK A POLITICAL ALLIANCE TO DISADVANTAGE OF THE AUTHORITY. AND THEN TRIED TO STONEWALL AND COVER UP FOR BOARD MEMBERS SPECIFICALLY QUESTIONING THE FACTS. REID'S CANCER SPREAD TO THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY SEEMS CURTAILED FOR THE TIME BEING. MADAM CHAIRMAN DID AN COMPEL LENGTHED JOB SHOWING SOMETHING WAS ROTTING IN THE STATE OF DENMARK. I WILL BE ABLE TO SLEEP BETTER TONIGHT. THANKS FOR REACHING OUT.
>> YOU ARE ALL AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, YOU GOING TO SEND A NEWS ARTICLE OUT TO EMBARRASS ME WITH YOU ALL CHARACTER AND BACKGROUND. YOU ALL SHOULDN'T BE THROWING STONES AT ANYBODY ELSE.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE CHARACTER TO DO THAT.
[D. CONSENT AGENDA:]
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A
MOVE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I MOVE APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[ E. LETTERS OF APPRECIATION]
>> AND DO WE HAVE ANY LETTERS OF APPRECIATION.
>> YES, WE DO. WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM CUSTOMER SID JOYNER THANKING SYSTEM OPERATORS JENNIFER KRIP FOR HER PROFESSIONALISM ASSISTANCE AND GOING THE EXTRA MILE IN RESTORING SERVICE TO HIS HOME.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS TO DISCUSS? THERE BE NO OLD BUSINESS.
[G.1. Utility Advisory Board – For Information Only]
WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO NEW BUSINESS.>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST I'M THIS AFTERNOON INFORMATION BY CICENEROS. THIS IS CONCEPT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON DURING SOME MEETING A FEW MONTHS AGO. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT, COMMENTS ON THE CONCEPT.
>> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. >> COULD I INTERRUPT YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT? ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING? I HAVE LOST MY MONITOR. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU.
>> OKAY. >> MY PRESENTATION TODAY WILL BE REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL FOR THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD WHICH I WILL REFER TO UAB.
GOOD PLACE TO START IS THE MISSION STATEMENT.
MISSION STATEMENT READS TO PROVIDE A FORUM WHERE CITIZENS CAN IDENTIFY ISSUES AND CONCERNS WITH FPLA OPERATIONS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK -- TO LET THE BOARD KNOW AND THE CITY COMMISSION AND ALSO THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO KNOW THAT INTENDED TO BE AN OPEN DIALOGUE FORUM. SO THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN TALK ABOUT ANY ISSUE RELATED TO UTILITY TO UTILITY OPERATIONS, SPECIFICALLY WE HIGHLIGHT SOME TOPICS THAT AGAINST THESE ARE TOPICS THEY CAN BRING UP THEMSELVES AND BRING FORWARD TO THE BOARD.
THE PUBLIC RELATIONS, BUSINESS CONCERNS COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ANY TOPIC OF SPECIAL INTEREST.
THE IDEA THERE TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT FROM THE BOARD FROM THE UAB SO THEY CAN RECOMMEND CHANGES POLICY CHANGES TO THE FPLA BOARD. I THINK IT SERVES AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND LINES UP WITH OUR 2018 STRATEGIC
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PLANNING SESSION WHERE WE IDENTIFIED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SO THE UAB GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BY REACHING OUT TO OUR CITIZENS AND LEARNING AND GETTING INFORMATION FROM THEM SO WE CAN LEARN ABOUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO NOTE UAB SHALL NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THE FPLA BOARD OR FPLA STAFF.IT'S NOT A POLICY MAKING BODY.
THEIR PURPOSE AND WE'LL HIT ON THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
THEIR PURPOSE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR POLICY CHANGES AND PROCEDURES SO THEY CAN BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
>> SOME OF THESE BULLET ITEMS THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THIS SLIDE HERE WILL LOOK FAMILIAR ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD OR ADVISORY BOARD IN THE PAST. WE'VE TAKEN SOME OF THESE BULLET ITEMS FROM THE PARK ADVISORY COMMITTEE THE POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SOME OTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEES FROM OTHER UTILITIES IN THE STATE.
WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
TO BE AN ADVISOR TO FPLA BOARD ON POLICIES AND GOVERNANCES OF THE UTILITY SURFACES AND OPERATIONS.
WHAT THINGS DO WE DO THAT WE DO WELL.
>> UAB WILL BE MADE UP OF NINE INITIAL MEMBERS.
THE MAYOR WILL APPOINT ONE. EACH CITY COMMISSIONER WILL APPOINT ONE AND EACH FPLA BOARD MEMBER WILL APPOINT ONE WITH MAYORS SERVING ON ONE WILL ONLY GET ONE
ONLY ONE? >> WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO CHANGE THAT NOW IF YOU WANT TO.
>> FOR THE BOARD SEEMS STRAIGHT FORWARD.
THIS FOLLOWS THE OTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT THE CITY HAS IS THAT EACH UA MEMBER WOULD FOLLOW THE TERM OF THE SPONSORING FPLA BOARD MEMBER.
WHEN WE PRESENT THIS TO THE CITY COMMISSION WHICH WE WILL DO IN THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING, WE'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO FOR THIS CITY COMMISSION. BECAUSE THEY CAN SERVE LONGER THAN 8-YEAR TERM IF THEY ARE ELECTED.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
AS FAR AS WHAT THE TIME FRAME MAY BE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT APPOINT. IT'S POSSIBLE WE WILL COMBINE THE TWO. WE WILL STICK TO MAYBE AN 8-YEAR TERM IF SO DESIRED BY BOTH THE FPLA BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION SO EVERYONE HAS THE SAME TIME FRAME FOR BEING ON UAB. IT WILL TAKE FIVE MEMBERS FOR A QUORUM. IF THERE ARE NOT FIVE MEMBERS YOU CAN STILL HAVE A MEETING.
THEY JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING FOR ACTION.
YOU WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL AT-LARGE MEMBERS. THE UAB WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL MEMBERS BUT AT NO POINT SHALL IT EXCEED 12 MEMBERS. ALL MEMBERS MUST BE FPLA ACCOUNT HOLDER. THEY CAN HAVE ONE ACCOUNT OR ALL ACCOUNTS. BUT THEY HAVE TO FPLA ACCOUNT HOLDER AND DON'T HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. WE HAVE A LARGE CUSTOMER GROUP THAT LIVES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
MEMBERS CANNOT SHALL NOT BE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR EMPLOYED BY FPLA OR THE STILL OF FT. PIERCE.
ATTENDANCE IS REQUIRED. SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEES, IF YOU MISS MORE THAN THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETING THEN YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE REMOVED FROM THE UAB, UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND VACANCY WOULD BE FILLED WITHIN 90 DAYS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO FILL THE POSITIONS SO UAB CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T DWINDLE DOWN TO SMALLER NUMBERS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE POSITIONS ARE FILLED ONCE THE VACANCIES -- ONE THE POSITIONS ARE VACANT.
HOW IS UAB SUPPOSED TO OPERATE? CURRENTLY WE HAVE SET FOR SECOND WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH. ONCE THE UAB IS ASSEMBLED IT MAY WORK THEY MAY DECIDE TO DO A DIFFERENT DAY OR MAY DECIDE TO BE TWICE A MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH.
WHATEVER WORKS FOR THEM. WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON LETTING THEM OPERATE DETERMINE HOW THEY WANT TO OPERATE. THE MEETING WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND WE'LL RECOMMEND THAT THEY APPOINT OFFICERS AND PART OF THAT IS MAKE SURE THE MEETING START ON TIME, END ON TIME AND EVERY MEMBER IN THE UAB HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
WE'LL ELECT A CHAIR. THEY WILL ELECT A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND SECRETARY. IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO ELECT A SECRETARY THAT WE WILL PROVIDE EMPLOYEE SO THEY CAN TAKE MINUTES AND RECORD THOSE MINUTES.
SO JUST LIKE THE OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS UAW MEMBER MAY BE SUBJECT TO REMOVAL FOR MALFEASANCE, MISS FEESAN OR NONFEESANCE. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR FPLA FOR THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT FPLA STAFF WILL NOT RUN THE MEETING. WE WILL SUPPORT THE GROUP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION THEY REQUEST. OR PROVIDE ANY BACKGROUND THEY NEED ON THE WAY THE UTILITY OPERATES.
WE WILL NOT RUN THE MEETING AND WE WILL ONLY OPERATE -- WE WILL ONLY PARTICIPATE IF REQUESTED BY THE UAB. YOU SAW THIS FIRST BULLET
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EARLIER. I WILL HIT ON IT ONE MORE TIME. IT'S IMPORTANT THE IDEA TO MAKE SURE UAB IS OPEN DIALOGUE FORUM SO THEY CAN PROVIDE INPUT, BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR CHANGE AND PROVIDE THE STAFF THE BACKGROUND ON WHY SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE CITIZENS.AND THE ISSUE THEY ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE IS MAKING PRESENTATIONS TO THE FPLA BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION. WE JUST IDENTIFIED SEMIANNUAL. IT COULD BE UP TO THEM ON HOW OFTEN THEY WANT TO DO IT.
WE WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THEM.
THEY HAVE TO RECORD MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
I WILL BE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE THE MINUTES, WE'LL PROVIDE THEM A STAFF MEMBER TO TAKE THE NOTES.
>> THE NEXT STEPS. JOHN AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY WILL BE PRESENTING TO CITY COMMISSION. THE CITY COMMISSION IS AWARE THE UAB IS IN PROGRESS AND LOOK FOR SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COMMISSION ON TERM LIMITS AND ANY OTHER ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE UAB.
AFTER THAT WE WILL PROVIDE -- WE'LL PREPARE RESOLUTION FOR FPLA BOARD TO APPROVAL.
AFTER THAT THEY THE CITY COMMISSION WILL SELECT THE MEMBERS OF THE UAB. THEN WE WILL LOOK AT WORKING TO IDENTIFY LOCATION AND TIME THAT WILL WORK BEST FOR THEM SO THAT IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND CAN BE AN AREA THAT IS WELCOMING AND CONVENIENT FOR THE UAB MEMBER AND FOR THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEXT TWO. FPLA IS GOOD AND RUNNING ENGAGEMENT. ONE SKILL SET WE NEED TO DEVELOP IS LEARNING HOW TO -- LEARNING HOW TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND LEARNING HOW TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS ON GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHAT THINGS AGAIN WHAT THINGS WE DO WELL AND WHAT THINGS WE WOULD DO BETTER. ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS -- I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY COMMISSION -- IS THAT THE UAB IF A MEMBER -- IF A MEMBER OF THE UAB SERVES MORE THAN A YEAR, THEY WILL BECOME SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE WAY FPLA OPERATES.
AT LEAST WE HOPE SO. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO SEE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATING IN THE UAB OR HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO UAB.
BECAUSE THEY ARE CIVIC MINDED INDIVIDUALS.
TYPICALLY THEY WILL BE CHAMPIONS OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS OR COMMUNITIES.
THE CITY COMMISSION WILL NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT NINE POTENTIALLY 12 MEMBERS TO PICK FROM TO APPOINT TO THE FPLA BOARD. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT BENEFIT. AND THIS IS AN INFORMATION ITEM ONLY. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> ALL RIGHT. ON ONE PART OF THIS AT THE VERY TOP IT SAYS "TO PROVIDE A FORUM OR CITIZENS CAN IDENTIFY ISSUES." THEN ANOTHER PART SAYS THAT IT IS RATE PAYERS OR SOME OTHER WORD LIKE THAT.
I'M WONDERING, IS THIS FOR CITIZENS? OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE OR I THINK IT SAID ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS YOU HAD TO BE A RATE PAYER OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. >> I THINK TO ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. IT THOSE BE A RATE PAYER.
>> TO BE ON FPLA BOARD YOU HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN.
OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. >> RIGHT.
>> THE UAB WILL NOT REQUIRE IT TO BE A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. BUT THE FPLA BOARD WILL.
THE CITY COMMISSIONER CAN PICK THOSE PEOPLE POTENTIAL ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS FPLA BOARD MEMBER.
NOT ALL MEMBERS WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE FPLA MEMBER.
>> OKAY. THAT'S WAS MY QUESTION.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> GO AS AHEAD.
>> WILL THE MEETING BE HELD AT THE TIME THAT THE PUBLIC
>> WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INPUT TO UAB.
MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE UP TO THEM WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM. IF THE BOARD -- IF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE NOT RETIRED OR IF THEY HAVE WORK DURING THE DAY, THOSE MEETING MAY BE AT NIGHT.
IT MAY BE WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR THEM.
WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ONCE THE MEMBERS ARE SELECTED.
WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO DETERMINE WHAT WORKS BEST
LOCATION. >> ALSO THE LOCATION.
WILL IT BE SET AT THE PLACE THAT YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION WILL BE ABLE
TO ATTEND? >> WILL IT BE IN A CENTRAL
LOCATION? >> WE DON'T KNOW YET.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT MAYBE IN THIS ROOM HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ROOM CAN HOST 12 PEOPLE.
WE WILL MAKE SURE WE TRY TO FIND SOMEWHERE THAT YOU KNOW
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THAT TRANSPORT -- PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION -- A LOCATION WHERE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS A STOP.THAT LOCATION IS PART OF THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION STOP,
RATHER. >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I'M ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
I THINK ITS GREAT NOT ONLY FOR US TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OUR RATE PAYERS BUT ALSO A GREAT WAY FOR US TO SHARE WHAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GOING TO BE A GREAT EFFORT IN BOTH REGARDS FOR COMMUNICATING WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S OUT
THERE. >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
I THINK THERE'S ABSOLUTELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM THE RATE PAYERS AND ALSO FOR US -- IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN MAYBE TEACH THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WAY UTILITY OPERATES.
IT'S A WIN WIN OPPORTUNITY FOR SURE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU -- SUBJECT TO OPEN MEETING -- THE PUBLIC RECORDS.
IT'S GOING TO BE COVERED BY SUNSHINE.
>> I'M NOT SURE. I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. MAYBE TALK TO MR. KOBLEGARD
AND JOSH. >> WE NEED THE LOOK AT THAT.
MISS BENNETT'S QUESTION ABOUT THE LOCATION.
IF IT IS SUBJECT TO OPEN MEETINGS AND PUBLIC NOTICE YOU GOT THE PUBLIC HAS TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
AND BE ABLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF THERE ARE PUBLIC RECORDS, THEN YOU KNOW THAT GETS VERY INVOLVED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ROLL THEIR EYES. BUT HONESTLY, THE STATE TAKES THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY -- IF IT IS COVERED BY SUNSHINE THAT EVERYBODY IS EDUCATED IN THAT.
AND THAT WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
>> THOSE SPECIFIC BULLET ITEMS I TOOK OUT OF THE PARK ADVISORY COMMITTEE. FOR THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE.
YOU KNOW, I WILL GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT MAYBE TALK TO
MRS. COXE AND KOBLEGARD. >> THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE ARE COVERED BY SUNSHINE. IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND ACT
>> THEY JUST NEED -- IF YOUR CITIZENS WILL BE INVOLVED THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HAVE TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION WHICH WE DON'T. I GUESS PRETTY MUCH THE TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION IS THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICE.
I MEAN, BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
I THINK THIS IS -- WE'LL EXPAND OUR EDUCATION ABILITY AND OUR ABILITY TO SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS.
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. THESE BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THEY GOING TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE UTILITY ITSELF? WILL YOU PUT THEM IN FRONT AS ADVISORY CAPACITY, HOPEFULLY WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND OTHER THE RATE PAYERS.
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO REPRESENT THE UTILITY.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> THEY WILL BE VERY
PRECIOUS. >>> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE OF TIME. ABILITY WHAT WE SHOULD DO IF THE UAB DECIDES THAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE AN INTHROW. WE CAN GIVE THEM AN INTHROW TO FPLA SO THEY CAN GET TO KNOW THE FACILITIES, GET TO KNOW THE WAY WE OPERATE BECAUSE WE SERVE FOR THE ELECTRIC OPERATIONS. WE WILL -- WE CAN GIVE THEM A CRASH COURSE. WHICH CAN DISCUSS THAT DURING INITIAL MEETING. WE WANT THEM TO TELL US WHAT THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THE UAB.
IF THEY WANT INTRO COURSE, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT
FOR THEM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> MR. KOBLEGARD HAS SOMETHING.
>> INVESTMENT CLAUSE UNDER THE SUNSHINE.
I WILL GO BACK AND RESEARCH IT.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S IS THE CASE.
>> THAT'S NO REASON TO SCARE ANYBODY OFF.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND NOT SUPPOSED TO DO. I THINK IN THE PROCESS I TAKE THE POLICE ADVISORY BOARD.
WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME LEARNING ABOUT THE SEPARATIONS OPERATIONS OF THE POLICE DEPART AND WHY POLICE OFFICERS DO WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DEAL WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THE AVERAGE CITIZEN DOESN'T THINK ABOUT RIGHT WHAT PROFESSIONAL DAY OF IN THE LIFE OF POLICE OFFICER IS. THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SAME KIND OF EDUCATION WITH THE --
>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
[G.2. POA No. 20-50: Approve Amendment No. 1 to the Annual Unit Price Contract for the Installation of Underground Utilities for Water and Wastewater Systems with Mastec North America, Inc., of Coral Gables, Florida, to increase the not to exceed contract amount by $900,000, from $1,500,000 to $2,400,000 annually.]
>> IS THE REQUEST APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO THE UNIT
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PRICE CONTRACT WITH WATERS WATER SYSTEM WORK AND MARK KOBE WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION.>> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK AND CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I'M HERE TO REQUEST AMENDMENT ONE TO ANNUAL UNIT PRIET CONTRACT FOR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 900,000 TAKING THAT FROM 1.5 MILLION TO 2.4 MILLION ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021. THIS IS FOR REPAIRS THAT ARE IN THE WATER WASTE UNDER GROUND UTILITY AND CONTRACTORS MASS SPECK FROM CORAL GABLES FLORIDA.
OVER THE LAST QUARTER AND THROUGH TOULT YEAR WE'VE EXPERIENCED AN UNUSUAL NUMBER OF LARGE EMERGENCY REPAIRS. WE STILL HAVE SOME THAT ARE NEEDED ON THE BOOKS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
WE NEED ADDITIONAL PO MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
IN WATER DISTRIBUTION ON THEIR SIDE, THEY HAVE HAD SOME UNUSUAL REPAIRS BUT A LOT OF THERE'S IS DUE TO UTILIZING THEIR CREWS TO WORK WITH THE AMI PROJECT AND NOT HAVING THEIR CREWS AVAILABLE TO JUST BASICALLY TAKE CARE OF REPAIRS THAT TYPICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE HANDLED IN THE PAST. THEREFORE, I REQUEST APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT ONE TO THE ANNUAL UNIT PRICE CONTRACT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED $900,000. TAKING FROM 1.5 MILLION TO 2.4 MILLION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. AT WHAT POINT DO WE PUT THIS BACK OUT FORBID? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK?
>> OUR UNIT PRICE CONTRACT IS BID EVERY YEAR.
IT BASICALLY WILL GO BACK OUT TO BID AT THE REMAINING
AND SO WE SELECTED MASS TECH AT THE BEGINNING.
>> THEY GAVE UNIT PRICE FOR THE WORK PERFORMED.
ALL WE DO IS ASK FOR NONEDS TO GO TOWARD THE ORIGINAL
CONTRACT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.
>> SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[G.3. June 2021 Quarterly Financial Operating Results – For Information Only]
>> NEXT ITEM IN THE JUNE 2021 QUARTERLY FINANCIAL OPERATING RESULTS. BARBARA MICHAEL WILL MAKE THIS INFORMATION PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE FINANCIAL OPERATING RESULT FOR THE QUARTER AND THE YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2021. THE FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE NINE MONTHS TO DAYLIGHT FOR FISCAL YEAR '21 ARE YEAR TO DATE OPERATING REVENUES THROUGH JUNE WERE 75 MILLION DOLLARS. THIS BROUGHT INCREASE OF ALMOST ABOUT 2.2 MILLION OVER THE SAME NINE-MONTH PERIOD FOR LAST YEAR. WE EXPERIENCED INCREASES IN UNIT SALES FOR ALL SYSTEMS DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
ALONG WITH AN ADDITION OF 247,000 TO THE YEAR TO DATE OPERATING REVENUES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND GENERAL SERVICE SALES. OUR OPERATING EXPENSES INCREASED IN COMPARISON TO FIRST NINE MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR '21 OF 1.6 MILLION PRIMARILY DUE TO INCREASES IN PURCHASES FOR RESALE APPRECIATION EXPERIENCE, AND UTILITY EXPENSE. THE COMBINED EFFECTS OF THE INCREASES IN REVENUE AND EXPENSE BROUGHT INCREASE IN OUR YEAR TO DATE OPERATING INCOME OF 528,000 DOLLARS.
OUR CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF 2021 WERE GREATER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR.
BY 2.6 MILLION. AND THAT CAME IN THE FORM OF WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT CHARGES AND NONCASH CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DEVELOPERS.
THEN FOR THE YEAR TO DATE, THE DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY WHICH WAS PAID IN APRIL AFTER ADJUSTING FOR THE THREE MONTHS OF EXPENSE FOR JUNE YEAR TO DATE THE INCREASE IN OUR NET POSITION WAS $3,053,000 OVER LAST YEAR. THIS THE OUR THREE-MONTH COMPARISON OF YEAR TO DATE ELECTRIC REVENUES.
ADJUSTED FOR THE COST OF PURCHASE POWER AND IS SHOWN IN RELATIONSHIP TO CONSUMPTION.
FISCAL YEAR 2020 CONSUMPTION WAS DOWN.
1% FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. WITH THE ADJUSTED REVENUE DOWN ALSO BY 3%. THE CURRENT YEAR TO DATE
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2021 THE ADJUSTED REVENUE AND CONSUMPTION WERE BOTH UP BY 3% COMPARED THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR.THE COST OF OUR PURCHASE POWER FOR LAST YEAR WAS 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS SAVING OVER 2019.
THE COST COMPARISON OF ELECTRIC PURCHASE RESALE FOR THE CURL CURRENT YEAR TO DATE IS ON PAR FOR LAST YEAR'S. THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 WATER SERVICES BILL AND OPERATING RENEW WERE UP FINALLY FROM 2019 WITH STEADY INCREASES IN BOTH UNIT SALES AND REVENUE. FISCAL YEAR 21 YEAR TO DATE SERVICES BILLED AND OPERATING REVENUE CONTINUE TO TREND UP WITH CONSUMPTION HIGHER BY 5%.
AND OPERATING REVENUE UP 6% WHEN COMPARED LAST YEAR.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE WASTEWATER OPERATING REVENUES WHILE GALLONS BILLED INCREASED SLIGHTLY IN 2020 THE REVENUES DID FALL SHORT FOR R FOR THE YEAR OVER YEAR COMPARISON THAT WAS AS SAID BEFORE THE CAPACITY OF REDUCTION THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN 2019.
IN THE CURRENT YEAR THE NINE MONTHS TO DATE THE WASTEWATER GALLONS BILL INCREASED NICELY BY 8% OPERATING REVENUE GREATER BY 565,000 YEAR TO DATE.
WHICH IS A 6% INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
OUR FISCAL YEAR 2020 NATURAL GAS OPERATING REVENUES THAT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED FOR THE COST OF PURCHASE GAS ALONG THE COMPARISON SHOWS A SMALL INCREASE IN THE ADJUSTED REVENUES OF 1% AND SIMILAR INCREASE IN CONSUMPTION OF #% FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR IN GENERAL SERVICE SALES IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2021. REVENUE DON SUMMION CONTINU TO RISE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. ADJUSTED GAS REVENUE GREATER BY 6%. WITH THE YEAR TO DATE CONSUMPTION ALSO HIGHER BY 6%.
THE COST OF GAS PURCHASE FOR THE NINE MONTH PERIOD REPORTING EXPERIENCED AN 8% SAVINGS IN THE COST PURCHASE GAS IN FISCAL YEAR 2020 OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
THAT WAS THE SAVING OF $332,000.
THE COST OF GAS PURCHASED FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR HAS RETURNED TO THE 2019LEVEL WITH AN INCREASE OF BACK TO $358,000.
OR 15% IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR.
THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO RATIO 12-MONTH AVERAGE NET PAYABLE, NET AVAILABLE, NET AVAILABLE INCOME TO OUR CURRENT DEBT SERVICE FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING JUNE 30TH.
THE DEBT SERVICE RATIO 3.27. THE RAINFALL YOU FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING SEPTEMBER OF 2020 WAS 3.16.
OUR BOND CONANCE REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE MINIMUM RATIO OF 1.25. AND WE ARE WITHIN OUR COMPLIANCE. THAT'S MY PRESENTATION FOR YOUR INFORMATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS --
>> DO BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
YOUR WELCOME. >> THE NEXT ITEM ARE THE
[G.4. Bill Comparisons for the Month of June – For Information Only]
BILL COMPARISONS FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE.MICHELLE HARRIS WILL MAKE THE INFORMATION PRESENTATION. THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK, MAYOR HUDSON AND CHAIRMAN FEE. WELCOME BOARD MEMBERS.
I PRESENT TO YOU TODAY THE MONTHLY UPDATE ON ELECTRIC RATE PUBLISHED BY FMBA TREASURE COAST UTILITIES BILLS FOR JUNE. THIS FIRST GRAPH SHOW COMPARISON OF RESIDENTIAL ELECTRIC RATE FOR 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS OF CONSUMPTION FOR 13 MUNICIPAL UTILITY WHICH ARE MEMBERS OF THE ALL-REQUIREMENT PROJECT.
DISPLAYED AND RANKED BASE ON THE BAIL BILL AMOUNTMENT.
JUNE RATE ADD 104.84 SHOWN IN WITH YELLOW BAR BRINGS FPLA WITH THE SECOND LOWEST IN THE GROUP.
THIS GRAPH DISPLAYS THE COMPARISON FOR THAT SAME LEVEL OF CONSUMPTION OF 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS BUT INCLUDE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE.
THIS LEVEL CONSUMPTION BRINGS US 6 LOWEST IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER 31 MUNICIPAL UTILITIES.
WE TRIED TO FIND OUT WHEN THE LAST TIME WE WERE THIS FAR LEFT ON THIS CHART. WE HAVE DATA THAT WAS AT OUR
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FINGER TIPS FOR THE 15 YEARS.I THINK THE LOWEST I FOUNDS 8.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE THIS FAR LEFT ON THE CHART.
PRIMARILY THIS MIGHT BE DUE TO THE JUNE 1ST REDUCTION IN THE $4 # REDUCTION TO PCA AS WELL AS 12 OF THE 31 OTHER MUNICIPAL UTILITIES IMPLEMENTED RATE CHANGES.
THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THE RATE ADJUSTMENT RESULTED IN SMALL DECREASE OF 19 CENT FOR AVERAGE AND DECREASE OF 7 CENTS FOR THE MUNICIPAL AVERAGE.
THIS GRAPH PRESENTS A SIMILAR COMPARISON BUT FOR THE CONSUMPTION OF 2500 KILOWATT HOURS.
FPLA JUNE BILLED A $284.80 RANKS US TENTH.
WHICH IS ALSO VERY EXCITED. FPLA RATE FOR 1,000 AND 2500 KILOWATT HOURS STILL MAKES US BELOW THE ARC AVERAGE THE MUNICIPAL AVERAGE AND THE IOU AVERAGE.
THIS TABLE DISPLAYED THE JUNE COMPARISON FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY BILLS ON THE TREASURE COAST.
UTILITY BILL FOR ALL THREE SERVICES PROVIDE ARE INSIDE CITY LIMITS AND AS SHOWN IN FIRST COLUMN IN BLUE.
ALL OTHER BILLS HAVE ELECTRIC SERVICES BY FP&L AND WASTEWATER AND WATER SERVICES BY THE LOCALITIES PROVIDER. THIS INCLUDES FPLA $4 DECREASE IN PCA AND MARTIN COUNTY UTILITY RECENTLY EFFECTED JUNE 1ST HAD 1.79 INCREASE TO WATER AND SEWER.
THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED FOR INFORMATION ONLY.
I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I WILL MAKE A COMMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE MADE THIS VERY COMPETITIVE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT JOB.
>> THE NUMBERS HAVEN'T LOOKED THIS GOOD SINCE EYE
BEEN ON THIS BOARD. >> THANK YOU.
[G.5. Natural Gas Rate Stabilization Fund Update – For Information Only]
>> NEXT ITEM. >> NEXT ITEM UPDATE ON THE NATURAL GAS RATE STABILIZATION FUND.
AND WE'RE REQUESTING AN INCREASE OF 7 CENTS PER CCF EFFECTIVE 9-1. AND CRAIG CRAWFORD WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION. IT CAN'T ALL BE GOOD NEWS.
>> SORRY TO BRING THE BAD NEWS.
THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WELCOME MISS BENNETT.
GLAD TO HAVE YOU. I BRING BEFORE YOU TODAY THE NATURAL GAS RATE STABILIZATION FUND UPDATE FOR JULY OF 2021. THE STAFF HAS RERUN ANALYSIS WHICH INCLUDE JUNE ACTUALS AND PRELIMINARY ACTUALS FOR JULY. AFTER GAS PRICES AT HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE SINCE APRIL OF 2021, THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAS AVERAGED
ABOUT $2.98. >> 49 BILLION CUBIC FEET AT THAT'S A 200% INCREASE FROM THE PRIOR TWO WEEKS.
BRINGING THE TOTAL WORKING GAS INVENTORY TO 2,# 78 -- 2,678 CUBIC TEETH. THEY REMAIN WITHIN THE FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE OF ABOUT 6.2% LOWER THAN THE -- LOWER THAN THE -- REMAIN WITHIN THE AVERAGE OF 6.2% LOWER THAN THE 5-POINT AVERAGE. INJECTION BEING LOW THIS YEAR AS HIGH DEMAND FOR GAS FOR POWER BURNS, AND PIPELINE REMAIN AT NEAR RECORD LOWS.
>> THE JULY CURVE REFLECTS THE INCREASE IN PGA WHICH APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON MARCH 16TH, 2021 FOR NEGATIVE 19 CENTS TO NEGATIVE TEN CENTS CCF.
YOU WILL NOTE WHAT THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUES, THE PRICE OF GAS IS UP MORE THAN $1.25 SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MARCH. RSF THE NOW BELOW THE OPERATING RANGE PROJECTED TO DECREASE THROUGHOUT 2021 # AND 2022. BASED ON THE CURRENT RSF STATUS. STAFF RECOMMENDS AN INCREASE TO PGA OF 7 CENTS PER CCF, NEGATIVE TEN CENTS CCF TO NEGATIVE 3 CENTS CCF EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST,
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2021. ALTHOUGH STAFF RECOMMEND INCREASE TO PGA, PGA CAN REMAIN THE SAME IF THE BOARD SO DESIRES. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?>> SYSTEM OF THE INFORMATION WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
WE TALKED ABILITY LAST MONTH THE FORWARD CURVE IS PRETTY STEEP IN THE WINTER AND LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW AS FAR AS THE FUTURE CERTAINED THE WINTER IT SHOULD FLATTEN OUT A LITTLE BIT. YOU NEVER KNOW.
THE FUTURE THROUGH THE WINTER IS OVER $4.
THAT'S WHAT IS CAUSING THIS AND UNFORTUNATELY THE DISCUSSION WILL BE HAVING ALTERNATE THE -- AT THE NEXT MEETING AT THE PCA WILL REFLECT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO
THE NATURAL GAS MARKET. >> IF YOU WILL NOTICE EVEN WITH THE CHANGE PREDICTION THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTH WE'LL BE UNDER COLLECTING A LITTLE BIT.
STILL NOT TAKING BACK UP FOR THE SUMMER.
TALKING OUR COLLECTIONS BACK UP.
>> HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH DECREASE MIDYEAR. 2022.
>> AT LEAST IT'S STILL IN THE NEGATIVE.
>> YEAH. >> WON'T BE FOR LONG.
>> IT WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE APPROVAL.
>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVE APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[G.6. WRF Relocation: Discussion of Progressive Design-Build Option & Grant Opportunities –For Information Only]
PRESENTATION ON PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD CONCEPT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WE THINK WOULD WORK WELL FOR THE WRF RELOCATION PROJECT. BO HUTCHINSON WILL START THE PRESENTATION. AND HE'LL INTRODUCE THE OTHER CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WITH US TODAY.THANK YOU MR. TOMPECK. GOOD AFTERNOON.
MRS. BENNETT WELCOME TO FPLA FAMILY.
I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY TO BRING THIS INFORMATION TO THE BOARD IN THIS PRESENTATION.
AND BEING ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON THE MOMENTUM THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THIS PROJECT RECENTLY.
THIS HAS BEEN A GOAL THAT FPLA HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR LITERALLY MY ENTIRE CAREER AND WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG NOW. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THE BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY WANT THIS PLANT MOVED AND THEY WANT IT MOVED NOW. THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY WANT THIS PLANT MOVED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AS WELL. AND THEY HAVE NOW NAMED THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AS ONE OF FLORIDA'S PROTECT WATERWAYS WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE IT COULD RELEASE MORE ENVIRONMENTAL GRANT MONEY AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION WITH SOME TIME FRAMES FOR FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND THEN I WILL INTRODUCE MR. GAMBY TO TELL US ALL ABOUT PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS.
AND THEN MR. SETH ROBERTSON TO DISCUSS THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER SUPER LOW INTEREST FINANCING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT
NOW. >> THIS HAS PUT US IN GOOD POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD THE RELOCATION.
WE PURCHASED THE PURCHASE FOR THE PLANT SITE ITSELF.
WE PURCHASED PROPERTY FOR A MASTER REPUMP FACILITY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF ORANGE AVENUE AND JENKINS ROAD.
WE'VE CONSTRUCTED TWO DEEP INJECTION WELLS WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT THE 12.5 MILLION DOLLARS THERE.
I CAN ASSURE YOU IT'S ALMOST TWICE THAT NOW.
THERE'S A VERY GOOD VALUE TO THE PROJECT THAT WAS EXPENDED YEARS AGO. THE PLANTS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BACK IN 2006. WE STOPPED WITH THAT.
THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WE WILL BE EVALUATING AS PART OF THIS AND ALSO LOOKING FOR OTHER EFFICIENCIES THAT WE WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. THE FORCE MAIN NORTHERN PORTION OF THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
>> THAT IS THE MAIN TRUNK LINE THAT ARE CARRY THE WASTEWATER TO THE NEW PLANT. WE PURCHASED AND INSTALLED EMERGENCY GENERATOR BACK IN 2019.
THE PLAN FOR THAT GENERATOR TO MOVE NEW SITE AS WELL AS LONG WITH THE FUEL TANK AND ALSO THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO RECOVER THAT INVEST. WE'VE CONSTRUCTED THE
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WESTERN PORTION OF THE ORANGE AVENUE FORCE MAIN AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE DOWNTOWN FORCE MAIN NOW ALL THE WAY INTO LIFT STATION A. JUST ONE MORE LITTLE COMMENT ON THAT. IS THAT THIS IS NOT NEW TO US. IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR, FOR YEARS AND ALL OF OUR WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN PUT IN LITERALLY OVER THE LAST 18 YEAR HAS BEEN DONE SO WITH THE THOUGHT OF THE LOCATION AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.THIS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR MOVING FORWARD. THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL WOULD BE BROKEN INTO TWO FACES.
THE FIRST PHASE WOULD TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US TO A DECISION POINT. THAT DECISION POINT WE HAVE ONE OF THREE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN KEEP MOVING ALONG THIS PATH. AT THAT DECISION POINT, WE WILL HAVE A 30% DESIGN. WE'LL HAVE A VERY GOOD COST ESTIMATE. IF YOU RECALL THE HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATES THAT WE DID EARLY ON THEY HAD LARGE CONTINGENCIES IN THEM. THAT WAS THE DIRECTION TO THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THIS GIVE ME THE BROADER REVIEW SO WE CAN GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
THIS WILL GIVE US MUCH CLOSER THAT POINT.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR OUR PERMITS AT THIS TIME AS WELL. AND THE MORE THE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WE ARE WITH THIS, THE BETTER OUR CHANCES ARE FOR BEING ABLE TO GET GRANTS.
SO IN THE 6 MONTH TIME FRAME THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T APPLY AHEAD OF TIME. WE WILL BE VERY WELL POSITIONED. THE CLOSER YOU ARE WITH PROJECT. MORE LIKELY TO GET SOME PARTICULAR GRANTS. AT THAT POINT, OPTION ONE WE JUST KEEP MOVING RIGHT WITH IT.
WE KEEP THE PEDAL TO THE FLOORBOARD.
AND WE MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL PHASE 2. FROM THERE, WE WENT AROUND FOUR MONTHS WE WILL BE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
MORE CONTINGENCY WE'LL HAVE A REAL NUMBER WORKING ON THE FINAL ZINE CURL CURRENTLY AS WELL AND ALLOW 24 MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT. THAT PUTS US AT THE 3-YEAR TIME LINE AND TO POTENTIALLY COMMISSION THIS PLANT.
OPTION TWO, IF FOR SOME REASON WE AREN'T HAPPY WITH THE TEAM THAT WE'VE SELECTED, WE CAN PUT THIS OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND WE CAN SELECT A NEW DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TEAM TO GO FORWARD.
THAT DOES COST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK FOR PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
THAT PUTS US OUT TO ABOUT 4 YEARS.
BUT EVEN AT THAT POINT, THE ORIGINAL EFFORT FROM THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL THE FIRST PHASE IS STILL VERY USEFUL. THAT TAKES US THROUGH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS. THERE'S A LOT OF VETTING OF TECHNOLOGIES. A LOT OF THAT STUFF WILL BE DONE. I WON'T GET TOO DEEP INTO IT. THAT WILL BE USEFUL GOING FORWARD. OPTION 3 IF THE ENVIRONMENT IS FAVORABLE FOR IT. WE CAN PUT OUT FOR P-3 AT POINT. IF THERE'S SOME REASON WE CAN POTENTIALLY GAIN SOME TRACTION FOR THAT.
AGAIN, THE INFORMATION THAT IS DONE AND THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL WILL BE VERY USEFUL AND THAT AS WELL. IT WILL GIVE US A VERY WELL DEFINED -- WE'LL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO SELECT THE RIGHT PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.
>> IF THE BOARD DOES NOT DIRECT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE CAN START THE SELECTION PROCESS FROM SCRATCH. WE CAN GO STRAIGHT INTO THE RFQ AND RFP PROCESS. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE TO THAT IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A VERY LIMITED DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE. AND AT THAT POINT, WE WILL STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME TECHNICAL SELECTIONS AS WE WOULD HAVE EARLY ON IN THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL PHASE ONE. AND ALSO VERY SIMILARLY WE COULD PUT OUT FOR P-3 UP FRONT.
AGAIN WITH WITH LIMITED DESIGN CELL CRITERIA PACKAGE. THEY ARE AROUND THE FOUR-YEAR POINT. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE PAUL GANDY. PRESIDENT AND CEO OF GLOBAL TECH. THEY'VE DONE MANY, MANY SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS WITH US OVER THE YEARS.
THEY'VE BEEN A VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF OUR TEAM.
MR. PAUL GANGY BRINGS OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE CONSULTING ENGINEERING BUSINESS.
HE'S PIONEER IN USE OF CONTINUING DESIGN BUILD PROCESS. MOSTLY THE SOUTH FLORIDA MARKET WHICH IS A VERY CHALLENGING MARKET FOR THINGS OF THIS NATURE. THERE ARE AREAS OF EXPERTISE INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM PLANNING ALL THE WAY TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PIECE OF THE WATERWAY WASTEWATER FACILITIES LIKE OUR. HE'S A STATE CERTIFIED GENERAL PLUMBER AND UTILITY EXCAVATION CONTRACTOR.
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SO A LOT OF THE WORK WILL BE ABLE TO DO IN HOUSE AS WELL AS SOME OF IT OUT. AND HE'S A CERTIFIED DESIGN BUILD PROFESSIONAL BY THE DESIGN BUILD INSTITUTE OFAMERICA. >> THANKS FOR THE INTRODUCTION. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AGAIN. I LOVE TO COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT ONE OF OUR FAVORITE SUBJECTS.
DESIGN BUILD METHOD IS NOT KNEW.
WE WORKED FOR YOU FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
WE'VE DELIVERED 51 DESIGN BUILD PROJECT OVER THE 15-YEAR PERIOD. GLOBAL TECH DELIVERED 300 PROJECTS. I'M NOT GOING TO ASSUME THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT DESIGN BUILD PROCESS IS.
I WILL SPEND A FEW SLIDES TALKING ABOUT THAT.
DESIGN BUILD IS WHERE IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE DESIGNER AND THE CONTRACTOR AND THE OWNER TO DEVELOP THE PROJECT VERSES THE DESIGN BID BILL MODEL WHICH IS MUCH MORE LINEAR. DEVELOP ENGINEERING PLAN AND SPECIFICATIONS YOU GO FROM SELECT THE LOW BIDDER AND THEN CONSTRUCTION START. THE DESIGN BUILD METHOD PREFERRED FOR NOT ONLY SCHEDULE AND DELIVERY BUT ALSO COLLABORATIVE NATURE OF THE PROJECT.
DESIGN BUILD AND THIS MARKET WATER AND WASTE WEAR.
THERE WAS A MARKET SURVEY FOR DESIGN BUILD INSTITUTE OF AMERICA AND 2018 TO 2021. AND WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH 2021 NOW THAT PROJECTED 28% OF THE WASTEWATER AND WATER MARKET WOULD BE DONE WITHIN SIGNED BILL DELIVERY METHOD.
I EXPECT THAT'S ON TRACK FOR 2021.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA MARKET, THESE TYPES OF PROJECT ARE ROUTINELY 8 TO 100 MILLION MARKET. THOSE ARE ALL DONE WITH PROGRESSY DESIGN BUILD DELIVERY METTOD.
I WILL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT SHORTLY.
BUT A PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT THEY ARE LARGER.
MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS. THEY REQUIRE MORE CLAB BRATIVE PLANNING TO PUT ON THE PLAN.
DELIVERY SCHEDULE AS I MENTIONED MUCH FASTER PROCESS. IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDER, THE OWNER, THE OPERATIONS, FOLKS THE ENGINEERS AND THE CONTRACTORS TO COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE APPROACHES AND REALIZE COST SAVINGS. DRILLING DOWN INTO THAT INFORMATION THE DESIGN BUILD YOU WILL SEE IN THIS SCHEDULES THAT WE PROVIDE. DRILLING DOWN THE CONSTRUCTION TYPICALLY 36% FASTER.
OVER ALL PROJECT DELIVERY CAN BE AS MUCH AS 50% FASTER. AND JUST DUE TO DISSATISFACTION AND THE DELIVERY METHOD DESIGN DID BUILD UTILITY OWNER REPORTED THE SATISFACTION WITH THE ADVERSARIAL NATURE OF THAT DELIVERY METHOD WHICH PUT THE FPLA IN THE MIDDLE OF PROCESS.
IT'S A LIMITED OPPORTUNITY TO FAST TRACK THE PROCESS.
IT'S A HIGH-RIFSK PROFILE. ONCE YOU LIVED THROUGH THE LOW BID ENVIRONMENT IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE THE BENEFITS OF THE DESIGN BUILD. ANOTHER BENEFIT IS COST CERTAINTY. IN LOW BID YOU GET THE LOW BIDDER BUT TYPICALLY YOU SEE 4 TO 6% IN CHANGE ORDERS.
AND THE DESIGN BILL METHOD THOSE CHANGEOVERS ARE TYPICALLY 1% OR LESS. SOMETIMES THEY ARE ALMOST NILL. YOU DEVELOP THE COST TOGETHER AND YOU TRACK THE COST AND MAKING THE IMPORTANT DECISIONS ALONG THE WAY.
FROM THE COLLABORATION STANDPOINT IT BRINGS THE FPLA AND THE CONTRACTOR AND THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL INTO THE PROCESS AT THE VERY START.
EVERYONE IS CONTRIBUTING WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THEIR PARTICULAR EXPERTISE AND WHAT YOUR WANTS AND DESIRES NOT ONLY FROM THE OWNERSHIP FROM THE OPERATION STANDPOINT. IT'S BASICALLY INCUBATOR FOR CONTINUOUS VALUE ENGINEERING AS YOU VET OUT THE PROCESS FOR THE PLANT. OFFERS FPLA TRANSPARENCY INTO THE COST PROPOSAL DEVELOPMENT AND I WILL DISCUSS THE FIRST DAYS OF THE PROJECT WHERE YOU TYPICALLY DEVELOP THE PROJECT AND GO THROUGH THE COST ESTIMATES AND SEE HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE.
ANOTHER GREAT BENEFIT IDENTIFYING AND ALLOCATING RISK THAT ARE IN THE PROJECT.
THERE'S A SAYING CONTRACTOR DON'T ASSUME RISK THEY PRICE RISK INTO THE PROJECT. PART OF THAT FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RISKS ARE AND HOW YOU MAY ALLOW INDICATED THE RISK BETWEEN THE FPLA AND THE DESIGN BUILDER AND YOU REALIZE COST SAVINGS IS RESULT OF SHARING THOSE RISKS.
ANY QUESTIONS HOW DO I KNOW I'M GETTING THE BEST VALUE? SELECTIONS ARE QUALIFICATIONS BASED FIRST.
THEY ARE ALSO BASED ON THE STRENGTH OF THE COMPANY AND THE EXPERIENCE AND DESIGN BUILDER THEIR FINANCE WHEREWITHAL AND TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES.
NOT JUST THE LOW BID. AS I MENTION COLLABORATIVE
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TEAM MEMBER DEVELOP THE SCOPE AND THE COST OF FROM THE START. AND THE PROCESS.ALSO DRILLING DOWN INTO THAT COST CERTAINTY THROUGH ACCOUNTABILITY THE OWNER AND THE DESIGN BUILDER SHARE THE COMPETITIVE VENDOR QUOTES. YOU SEE WHERE THE QUOTES ARE COMING FROM. YOU HAVE CONTRACTED RATE AND MARKUPS THAT ARE OPEN. THE OWNER SHARES IN THE EVALUATION OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN SELECTING THE COMPONENTS OF THE PLANT.
ALSO WHERE APPROPRIATE THE DESIGN BUILDER WILL PUT OUT BID PACKAGES. THE OWNER SEES THE BID PACKAGES TO THE COMMUNITY OR SUBCONTRACTORS BUT THEY ALSO HAVE CAPABILITY TO SELF-PERFORM ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS QUALIFICATION SPACE.
YOU SELECT THE DESIGN BUILDER BASED ON THEIR QUALITY AND EXPERIENCE. SO YOU WANT THEM TO PERFORM THE WORK AND CONTROL THE QUALITY BUT BID OUT THE PACKAGES WHERE NECESSARY. AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS YOU COME AWAY WITH GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR LUMP SEE BEFORE CONTINUING ON IN THE PROJECT.
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO NEGOTIATE.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT PAUSE IN THE CONTRACT.
JUST LOOKING AT THE DESIGN BID BUILD MODEL.
THIS VERY LINEAR PROCESS. AND IT'S A MULTICONTRACT PROCESS WHERE THE FPLA CONTRACTS SEPARATELY WITH THE DESIGN FIRM. THEY DEVELOP PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND PUTOUT TO BID.
FV PLA WOULD HIRE A CONTRACTOR.
THE FPLA BASICALLY BECOMES A TRAFFIC COP IN THEIR MANAGING BOTH CONTRACTS. THEY PLACE HEAVY DEMAND ON THE OWNER'S RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEMANDED MULTIPLE CONTRACTS. ALL THE COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE OWNER. AND THERE'S A GREATER RISK FOR THE OWNER. THERE'S LIMIT COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE DESIGN FIRM AND CONSTRUCTION FIRM.
THE CONSTRUCTION FIRM IS UNTIL YOU'RE A YEAR INTO THE PROCESS OR MORE AND YOU BID THE PROJECT.
IN THE DESIGN BUILD IT'S SINGLE ENTITY FORMED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND HAS A SINGLER CONTRACT WITH THE FPLA.
SINGLE POINT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND LIABILITY TO DELIVER THE PROJECT AND THEY CONTAIN BOTH THE CONSTRUCTION PROFESSIONALS TO PROJECT MANAGER PROFESSIONALS AND THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS UNDER ONE ENTITY. THIS HAS THE EFFECT OF LEAVERAGING PERSONAL FOR MORE COMPLEX PROJECT.
THAT'S WHY WE SEE LARGER PROJECT GOING DESIGN BUILD METHOD. IT'S A BENEFIT TO HAVE ONE COMPANY MANAGE THE PROCESS. ALTHOUGH IT'S FAIRLY TRANSPARENT PROCESS AS YOU DEVELOP.
YOU ARE CHOOSING A TEAM THAT HAS THE FINANCE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TECHNICAL WHEREWITHAL TO DELIVER THE PROJECT. AND YOU ALSO CHOOSING DESIGN BUILD INTO WHERE ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM HAVE MADE WHAT WE CALL THE MENTAL SHIFT TO DESIGN BUILD.
IT'S A DIFFERENT CLAP BRATIVE LESS ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP AND IN FACT FPLA HAS MADE THAT MENTAL SHIFT TO DESIGN BUILD. THIS JUST TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AS I MENTIONED IT'S TWO-PHASE PROJECT. SINGLE CONTRACT.
PHASE ONE THE PRECONSTRUCTION.
PHASE TWO AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT AND IT HAS BOTH PARTY AGREE TO A PAUSE IN PHASE ONE AT THE END OF PHASE ONE. IN PHASE ONE WHERE WE DO THE 30% DESIGN. WHICH IS BASICALLY WE CHARACTERIZE YOUR WASTEWATER AND WE LOOK AT YOUR SITE AND YOUR DEMANDS, YOUR PARTICULAR REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO FACILITY THAT YOU WILL HAVE ON THE SITE SUCH AS ADMIN OPERATION IN ADDITION TO TREATMENT PLANT. WE LOOK AT ALL THE PROCESS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO WHAT YOU NEED TO MEET YOUR REUSE OF REQUIREMENT AND YOUR TREATMENT REQUIREMENT.
WE DON'T GO INTO BLIND AND SAY WE WILL GIVE YOU ONE TREATMENT PROCESS. WE VET THE ONES THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE FBL AND AT THAT SITE.
AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE WORK WITH YOU WITH THE FOLKS TYPICALLY WORK WITH OWNER TO DEVELOP A DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT PLANT WILL CONTAIN WHEN YOU MOVE ON THE FINAL DESIGN, YOU ARE CRITICAL DECISIONS ARE MADE.
BUT THE GREAT PART OF THAT YOU PRODUCE A DOCUMENT WHICH WE CALL THE BASIS OF DESIGN REPORT.
THAT MEMORIALIZES ALL OF THE DECISIONS.
BUT IT IS A STARTING POINT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO SEARCH FOR FUNDING AND GRANTS FOR THE PROJECT.
YOU HAVE MORE DEFINITIVE COST AND ALSO YOU CAN START THE ENVIRONMENTAL PART PERMITTING AT THAT POINT.
THIS THE TYPICALLY A FIVE TO 6 MONTH PROCESS WHERE YOU COULD APPLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT BASED ON THE DEFINITION ON WHAT WILL GO ON THE PLANNED SIDE.
WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IN YOUR RATE STUDY IS 30,000 FOOT LEVEL COST ESTIMATE. 30% YOU START TO NARROW IT
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DONE. YOU HAVE CONTINGENCY BECAUSE YOU ARE 30%. YOU HAVE MUCH BETTER DEFINITION OF WHAT THE COST OF THE PLANT WILL BE.THAT WILL HELP YOU GOING FORWARD TO LOOK FOR FUNDING.
WHILE THAT'S GOING ON WE PROCEED TO 60% DESIGN PHASE.
60% DESIGN MEAN WE'VE LITERALLY DONE 60% LEVEL COMPLETE DRAWING. WE HAVE NOW ENOUGH OF DEFINITION AND PROJECT SO THAT THE DESIGN BUILD TEAM CAN PUT A COST TO IT. THEY CAN COMMIT TO FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE DEVELOPED EITHER WHAT WE WE CALL THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OR THE LUMP SUM FEE. AT THAT POINT, WE HAVE A CHOICE. WE CAN EITHER NEGOTIATE THAT FEE AND CONTINUE ON BY AMENDMENT TO PHASE 2 FOR THE FINAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.
OR YOU HAVE BUILD 1/2 IN CLAUSE FOR ANY REASON.
I WILL COVER WHAT THOSE MAY BE.
AND LEAVE THE PROJECT AND WE'RE DONE AT THAT POINT.
>> PHASE 2 IF WE MOVE ON TO PHASE 2 WE'RE GRANTED THE CONTRACT TO GO ON TO PHASE 2 THAT'S WHERE YOU START YOUR EARLY WORK PACKAGE WHICH CAN BE SITE DEVELOPMENT WHICH GIVES YOU A JUMP ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.
YOU COMPLETE THE FINAL DESIGN BUT YOU HAVE AN OVERLAP. YOUR ARE ALREADY STARTING CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS MARKET EARLY PROCUREMENT OF LONG LEAD ITEMS. IF YOU GO INTO THE TREATMENT PLANT.
THIS GIVES YOU BETTER JUMP ON THE SCHEDULE.
JUST LOOKING AT THE PHASE ONE MILESTONE OPTIONS, ONE IS TO ACCEPT THE PHASE 2 PROPOSAL AS SUBMITTED.
WE'VE ALL DEVELOPED IT COLLABORATIVELY TYPICALLY.
IF WE DON'T, WE WOULD NEGOTIATE THOSE WITH AN OWNER. AND IF WE ARRIVE AT AN AGREEMENT WE CONTINUE ON PHASE 2.
BUT YOU MAY WANT TO OFF RAM TOP BUDGET.
THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU DID IN 2007 YOU HAD DESIGN FOR WASTEWATER PLANT. IF ANYONE REMEMBERS HOW THE MARKET WAS. WE HAD THOUSANDS OF HOUSING STARTS JUST DISAPPEAR OVER NIGHT.
THE MARKET CRASHED AND THERE WERE A LOT OF UTILITY THAT DIDN'T CONTINUE ON WITH MAJOR PLANNING EXPANSION FOR AS MUCH AS THE DECADE. SOME CASES.
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF CANCELLING THE PROJECT.
YOU COULD PROCEED AND ENGAGE THE DESIGN BUILDER AND ANY VARIOUS NUMBERS NEGOTIATED DIFFERENT SCOPES OF SERVICES. OR YOU CAN ELECT TO PROCEED WITH ANOTHER DESIGN BUILDER OR P-3 PARTNER.
I LIKE TO REFER TO THIS PRE-NUP AGREEMENT.
WE'VE FELL IN LOW. WE WERE IN LOVE.
WE THOUGHT OUR LOVE WOULD LAST FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS. WE DATED FOR 15 YEARS BUT IT DIDN'T LAST. AND WE LEAVE THE UNION WITH WHAT WE PRODUCED. FFLA WOULD WALK AWAY WITH 60% DESIGN. THEIR BASIS OF DESIGN REPORT WHICH THEY CAN USE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER PROJECT DELIVERY METHOD. WE'RE FREE TO DATE OTHERS AT THAT POINT. WE'VE COMPLETED THE PHASE ONE TASK AND THE CONTRACT O IS OVER AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED. NOW YOU CAN MOVE ON AND MOVE ON WITH SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT BO MENTIONED IN THE
FIRST SLIDE. >> LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE OF THE PROJECT. IF WE ASSUME START DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST 2021 FOR REFERENCE, THEN IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON THE LEFT THERE UNDER NTP YOU WILL SEE 30% BASIS OF DESIGN. THAT'S BASICALLY A SIX-MONTH LET'S SAY SIX MONTH PROCESS BY THE OWNED OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022, YOU ARE ABLE TO LOOK FOR MORE FUNDING AND START THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING PROCESS. WHILE THAT'S GOING ON WE PROCEED TO 60% DESIGN AND DEVELOP OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRIZE THAT YOU SEE THE BLACK DIEDMOND MILESTONE THERE. WE LACK AT THE PHASE 2 CONTRACT BUT ALSO AS I MENTION YOU SEE A LINE FOR EARLY PROCUREMENT AND ONCE WE DONE THE PROCESS SELECTION IN PHASE ONE THEN NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY ORDERING THE LONG THE WILL GO INTO THAT PLAN - THAT WILL GIVE YOU JUMP ON CONSTRUCTION.
THIS FACT TYPICALLY DONE. IF WE PROCEED TO PHASE 2 FINAL DESIGN BEGINS AND WRAPPED UP NEAR THE THIRD QUARTER, FOURTH QUARTER OF 2022.
YOU ARE OVERLAPPING THE CONSTRUCTION.
WHICH WOULD PUT US AT COMMISSIONING THE PLANT NEAR THE END OF 2024. IF YOU COMPARE THIS TO THE LINEAR DESIGN BID BUILD MODEL YOU PROBABLY A YEAR OUT FROM THAT DATE. THAT'S JUST A NORMAL SCHEDULE FOR THAT DELIVERY, COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO POINT OUT HERE THIS ALSO GIVES YOU A PLANNING FOOL FOR INVESTMENTS IN THE ISLAND WATER RECLAMATION
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FACILITY. YOU DO NEED TO KEEP THAT OPERATIONAL THROUGHOUT THE THREE-YEAR PERIOD THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR THIS SCHEDULE.THIS NOW GIVES YOU A PLANNING WIND WINDOW.
THERE'S A GO AND YOU MADE INVESTMENT IN THE EMERGENCY POWER EQUIPMENT OUT THERE THAT IS INTENDED TO TRANSFER TO THE NEW WASTEWATER PLANT. YOU CAN MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS. I'M SPEAKING FOR PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILDS SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARDS TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT ITSELF. WHAT WOULD YOU SEE HERE ANOTHER SCHEDULE THAT FOLLOWS REALIGNMENT OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. AND FPLA IS WORKING SEPARATELY ON CONSIDERATION FOR REROUTING THE COLLECTION SYSTEM TO NOW COME OUT TO THE SITE OF THE NEW PLANT.
WE DON'T SHOW THAT HERE. >>> IT'S A PARALLEL PROCESS.
LITERALLY THE SAME METHOD OR SOME OTHER METHOD.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO BO AND IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS. >> DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? IF PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL
>> MY UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY YOU WILL PROVIDE THE INFORMATION BUT YOU WILL NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE FUNDING. THAT WOULD BE FOR TO US
HANDLE ON OUR OWN. >> NOT AT ALL.
ACTUALLY SETH ROBERTSON IS GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT. WHEN I FOLLOW.
IT'S A PHASE ONE SERVICE. TYPICALLY PROVIDED FOR THE
ASSISTANCE WITH THE FUNDING. >> OKAY.
>> IS THIS IS PROPOSAL COMPLETION OCTOBER 2024.
>> END OF 2024. >>> VERY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
IT'S A THREE-YEAR SCHEDULE. >> I LIKE THAT EVERYTHING
THE STACKED AND STAGGERED. >> ITS OVERLAPPING.
THIS IS OVER SIMPLIFIED TOO. >> THIS IS 40 PAGES.
>> I HOPE SO. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF SOME GLOBAL TECH I KNOW WE APPROVED A LOT OF PROJECT. COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH GLOBAL TECH DESIGN BUILD?
>> WE HAVE CONTINUING DESIGN -- I'M SORRY DESIGN BUILD. WE HAVE CONTINUING DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT THE CURRENT STATUTORY LIMIT ON THAT CONTRACT ARE 4 MILLION DOLLARS.
BUT WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE PROCESSES INSIDE YOUR WASTEWATER PLANT AND YOUR WASTEWATER PLANT.
THERE'S SIMILAR PROCESSES INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE DONE FOUR CLARIFIER REHABILITATION IN THE WASTEWATER PLANT.
WE INSTALL THE NEW ENERGY -- EMERGENCY ENERGY SYSTEM AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT.
WE'VE UNDER A FEMA GRANT WE DID HURRICANE HARDENING IN THE PLANT WHERE WE DID THE NEW SEAWALL AND RAISED THE OLD SEAWALL. WE RECONFIGURED THE PUMPS FOR FLOODS. WE HAVE GENERATOR THAT WAS YOU GUYS AS WELL. THE SOFTNER OF THE WATER PLANT. DID BOTH OF THOSE.
51 PROJECTS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR
I DON'T SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE. I WOULDN'T HAVE REMEMBERED THE CLARIFICATION BOARD WAS DESIGN BUILD.
THIS IS UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE THAT YOU CAN DO THIS
WITHOUT -- >> CCNA COVERS THIS PROCESS.
>> THIS IS AN OPTION TO GOING OUT FORBID.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND SO DO YOU -- DO YOU KNOW WHY THE LEGISLATURE GIVES US THAT OPTION.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THAT.
IS THAT FOR INVACCINATION OR SPEED OR FOR, DO YOU KNOW -- WHY THAT OPTION EXIST?
>> THE REASON THAT OPTION EXISTS IS BECAUSE IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN UNDER THE CONSULTANT COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION ACT. DESIGN BILL A JOINT OF THE CONTRACTOR AND THE ENGINEER. YOU SELECT UNDER THAT EVEN THOUGH TYPICALLY THE CONTRACTOR HAS THE BONDING AND THE FINANCIAL CAPABILITY.
YOU'RE TEAMING WITH A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
THAT'S WHY CONSULTANT NEGOTIATE THE ACT IS REGULAR LAITS THAT. UNDER DESIGN BID BUILD YOU SELECT THE ENGINEER BY ITSELF.
UNDER THAT STATUTE. THERE'S THAT STATUTE DOESN'T APPLY TO THE CONTRACTOR YOU SEE.
THAT'S JUST BIDDING AND PROCUREMENT.
>> OKAY. >> I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.
I WILL WAIT UNTIL LATER. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
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HAVE YOU DONE DESIGN BUILD OF A FULL WASTEWATER PLANTBUT FOR A FULL -- LET ME TALK ABOUT MY CAREER
QUICKLY. >> FORMALLY I WORKED ON THE DESIGN OF PROJECT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THERE WERE LARGER THAN THIS. 50 MILLION GALLONS A DAY 100 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. WE TEAM WITH LARGER CONTRACTOR. TO DELIVER THE SERVICES.
WE'VE DONE EVERY PROCESS THAT'S INSIDE OF THE PLANT.
THIS IS 80 MILLION PLANT. IT'S TYPICAL OF PROJECT THIS SIZE AND OUR REGION FOR FOLKS TO JOINT VENTURE AND TEAM TOGETHER TO DELIVER THEIR EXPERTISE IN THE PROJECT AND TO COMBINE FINANCIAL RESOURCES.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW MUCH OF THE PROJECT WILL
YOU SUB OUT? >> IF WE JOINT VENTURE ON THE PROJECT. ONLY TO WHAT WE THINK WE CAN'T COMPLETE OURSELF. BUT WE ALSO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OUR WORK IN FT. PIERCE IS AN EXAMPLE AS WE TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRACT TO LOCAL VENDORS.
WE HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR IT. WE HAVE WORKED QUITE A BIT WITH LEGAL VENDORS AND LOCAL CONTRACTSORS INS FOR PETER.
THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR THAT.
BUT, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO CONTROL.
WE ARE LIABLE FOR THE SCHEDULE.
WE ARE LIABLE FOR THE QUALITY.
WE TAKE THAT SERIOUS LUE. WE WOULD SELF-PERFORM THAT WORK UNDER OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
>> EFFECTIVE I WILL IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
THERE'S BEEN IN OCCASIONS WORKING WITH GLOBAL TECH THEY ARE USING SUS WHERE THEY WOULD BID AGAINST THEM.
WHERE SOME OF THE WORK THEY WOULD DO BUT MAYBE THEY ARE -- THEIR FORCES ARE USED BETTER SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THEY MAY BID OUT. THEY ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS.
TO HAVE A SINGLE LINE OF RESPONSIBILITY.
THE CHARGE THAT PAUL SHOWED EARLIER AS FAR AS GOING 32 THE YOU KNOW YOU GOT THE DESIGN PLAN AND THE DESIGN ENGINEER AND YOU'VE GOT THIS THING OUT TO BID.
I CAN TELL FROM DAY FIVE IN THE PROJECT THE SHOVEL GOES IN GROUND THE CONTRACTOR GO POINTING THE FINGER ALTERNATE ENGINEER. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND YOU KNOW A BIG PROJECT LIKE THIS.
WE NEED A SINGLE POINT OF CONTROL.
AND THAT WOULD BE? >> GLOBAL TECH.
>> OKAY. NOTHING ELSE WE WILL INTRODUCE SETH. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. SETH ROBERTSON TO THE BOARD.
HE'S THE FUNDING LEADER FOR HAZEN AND SAUER.
HE BRINGS OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND THE FUNDING SIDE OF THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT SUCH AS OURS.
HE'S SPECIFICALLY SPECIAL IZEING IN THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. HE'S SERVED SRF SECTION CHIEF FOR THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
WHERE HE MANAGED OVER 2 BILLION DOLLARS IN STATE AND FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS.
THAT'S BILLION WITH A B. AND HE ALSO SERVED AS COCHAIR OF THE NATIONAL EPA AND STATE SRF WORK GROUP.
NEEDLESS TO SAY HE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH STATE, FEDERAL STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING PROGRAMS INCLUDING ALL OF THESE ACRONYMS THAT I WOULD HAVE TURN OVER TO SETH. AND ALSO THE STATE AND FEDERAL RESILIENCY PROGRAMS WHICH WE WOULD TAP INTO FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL. IN THE RECENT YEAR HE HAS DIRECTLY MANAGED 54 SUCCESSFUL FUNDING APPLICATIONS FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER 185 MILLION.
AND HE ALSO DROVE ALL THE FLEW FROM NORTH CAROLINA FOR THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I'M ACTUALLY HERE REPRESENTING A TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS AT HAZEN. AND THEIR COLLECTIVE EXPERIENCE BEYOND WHAT BO MENTIONED.
WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SECURES AND AT MINISTER 4 # BILLION OF WASTEWATER FUNDING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND OVER BILLION DOLLARS HERE JUST IN FLORIDA.
INCLUDING A BUNCH OF PROGRAMS I WILL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. FEMA PROGRAM; CLEAN WATER SRP. I THINK YOU HEARD ABOUT SOME
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OF THE PROGRAMS BEFORE. I BELIEVE YOUR CONSULTANT TALKED ABOUT. FEW OF THE PROGRAMS OPTIONS FOR POTENTIALLY FUND THING PROJECT MAKING IT MORE AFFORDABLE. PAUL TALKED ABOUT DESIGN BUILD AND SOME OF THE BENEFITS AND OBVIOUSLY BENEFITS FROM TIMING STANDPOINT.I WILL TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR PROCEEDING IN TIMELY MANNER FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT.
THIS THE GENERATIONAL PROJECT.
THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT WITH A LOT OF IMPACT FOR THE UTILITY AND THE COMMUNITY. IT'S ALSO PERFECT I WILL ALIGNING WITH A GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FROM THE FUNDING PERSPECTIVE. THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO EVER FUND A PROJECT LIKE THIS IN MY CAREER.
AND PROBABLY THE MOST FUNDING THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE SINCE AT LEAST THE MID 70S.
THE TYPE OF FUNDING AROUND WHEN YOU PROBABLY BUILT THIS PLANT THE FIRST TIME. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS TYPE OF FEDERAL FUNDING IN THAT ENTIRE TIME PERIOD.
IT'S REALLY CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
IN THE LAST SIX TO TWELVE MONTHS.
THERE'S THREE THINGS DRIVING THAT RIGHT NOW.
ONE IS HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATES.
THAT'S IN THE BOND MARKET. THAT'S IN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT. THAT'S TERRIBLE IN SOME PLACES IT'S GREAT WHEN YOU TRY TO BORROW MONEY.
IT'S EVEN MORE EMPHASIZED IF YOU LOOK ALTERNATE FEDERAL AND STATE LOAN PROGRAMS OF HOW LOW THOSE RATES ARE.
WHEN I SAY LOW I'M TALKING ABOUT AS LOW AS 0% FUNDING.
IT'S NEVER HAPPENED AND MAY NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
SECOND THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.
THE FUNDING THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN THAT WAS MADE TO TOWNS AND CITIES AND COUNTIES ALSO MADE TO THE STATE.
THEY ARE USING SOME OF THAT FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER AND SEWER. THAT IS A SOURCE OF GRANT FUNDING THAT'S NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE.
AND IT HAS A VERY SHORT WINDOW AND IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. THE THIRD THING IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. WHEN I TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE THESE ARE LITERALLY CHANGING BY THE DAY.
A LOT OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
AND EVEN THEN POTENTIALLY FROM THE BUDGET BILL AFTER THAT. THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL PROVIDES SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING TO FEMA.
TO CLEAN WATER SRF AND CREATED NEW GRANT PROGRAMS POTENTIALLY. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COMING TOGETHER TO PROVIDE A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME TO DO LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT MULTIPLE PROGRAMS IN PART BECAUSE THERE'S NO SINGLE SOURCE THAT WILL LIKELY FUND 80, 90, 100 MILLION PROJECT.
THIS IS ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR A FEW YEARS.
IT WAS CONSIDERED A SISTER PROGRAM TO SRF.
IT'S A LOW INTEREST LOAN PROGRAM.
IT'S GETTING SUBSTANTIAL ADDITIONAL FUNDING UNDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT JOBS ABILITY.
I WILL CALL IT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL FROM NOW ON. THAT'S THE CURRENT TITLE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. WHEN I REFER TO THAT, THAT'S WHAT PASSED THE SENATE IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO.
AGAIN IT'S NOT SIGNED INTO LAW YET BUT LOOKING WHAT'S IN THERE AND WHAT'S AGREED THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE SOURCES ARE COMING FROM. SUBSTANTIAL ADDITIONAL FUNDING JUST MEANS THERE'S MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE.
MORE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR PROJECTS FUNDED.
IT'S TIED TO TREASURY INTEREST RATES WHICH AGAIN ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY LOW.
CLEAN WATER STATE RESOLVING FUND.
IT'S A FEDERAL FUND FROM THE STATE.
STATE OF FLORIDA RECEIVES FUNDING THAT THEY ADMINISTER. IT RECEIVES A LOT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING POTENTIALLY.
THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
BASICALLY, FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT'S CURRENTLY FUNDED AT WITH WHAT WE WILL GET OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. TALK TO DP YESTERDAY.
I WILL ECHO WHAT BO SAID THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST FROM TB FOR THIS PROJECT TO HAPPEN.
AND HAVING THEIR SUPPORT FROM A FUNDING SIDE IS ALSO A VERY GOOD THING. THAT'S WHERE CURRENTLY THAT PROJECT THEY ARE FUNDING AT 0% INTEREST.
>> TALKING ABOUT GRANTS. HERE IT BEGINS COUPLE OF EXAMPLE. BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE COMMUNITIES OR BRICK GRANT. THIS IS UNDER FEMA.
AS OPPOSED TO EXISTING FEMA THAT YOU PROBLEM GLI KNOW AND LOVE, WHERE THEY HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT GIVE YOU MONEY WHEN YOU'VE HAD A DISASTER.
TO HECHE YOU REBUILD THINGS THIS IS NEWER PROGRAM ONLY ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH ONE FUNDING ROUND SO FAR THAT PROVIDE FUNDING TO DO PREDISASTER MITIGATION TO
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ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT TO INFRASTRUCTURE ESPECIALLY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITY JUST LIKE THE PROJECT WHICH MOVES THE PLANT FROM THE ISLAND TO THE MAINLAND.THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A BIG SELLING POINT ALONG WITH SOME OF THEIR WATER QUALITY BENEFITS.
AND THAT TYPE OF THING THAT WILL PUT YOU IN A GOOD POSITION FOR GRANTS. THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS.
I THINK THEY HAVE TEEN 5 AND 700 MILLION.
THE BILL SHOULD MOVE UP TO ABOUT 2 BILLION DOLLARS.
AGAIN SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN FUNDING.
THEN YOU RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT PROGRAM.
IT'S A PROGRAM JUST HERE IN THE STATE.
IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE AND SENT OFF.
THERE'S GOOD FUNDING THERE. AGAIN THERE'S A LOT OF NEED.
THIS WHERE THE STATE PUT FUNDING MONEY.
THEY LOOK TO PUT BETWEEN 500 MILLION AND BILLION DOLLARS EXTRA IN THIS FOR GRANTS AGAIN DOING A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS DOING THINGS LIKE MOVING INFRASTRUCTURE, PROTECTING FROM FUTURE EVENTS.
>> AGAIN THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE EXAMPLES.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER POTENTIAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED. THEY MAY COME OUT OF THE NEXT SEVERAL MONEY MONTHS. THEY ARE PROGRAMS OR PROGRAMS THAT AMOUNT THAT WE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
AND LIKELY WILL NEVER SEE AGAIN.
ARP MONEY BASICALLY HAS A WINDOW THAT IT GOES AWAY TOWARD END OF 2024. THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL PROVIDES ALL OF THEIR FUNDING IN THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS. THAT'S KIND OF THE WINDOW TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE THINGS BEFORE THEY ARE DONE.
KIND OF MENTIONED ALL THE THINGS ALREADY.
BUT GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY BUT THERE'S ALSO THIS WINDOW AND IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST SO LONG.
HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATES PAIRED WITH THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IS TREMENDOUS. SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN ALMOST ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST CURRENTLY FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER FUNDING. AND THE THIRD AND LAST SORT OF THING OUT THERE IS THERE'S LIKELY TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT MAY COME OUT 3.5 TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET BILL. I BELIEVE IT WHEN IT GETS PASS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THAT'S FOR A LOT OF FUND RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE. THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY FIT IN WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE FROM IMPACT AND
PROTECTION STANDPOINT. >> STAFF'S PLAN AT THIS POINT OR STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON FINALIZING THE CONTRACT FOR THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BILL.
IT IS OUR PLAN TO BRING THAT BACK AT THE SEPTEMBER 7TH BOARD MEETING AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE TEAM WILL TRY TO INTRODUCE MORE OF THE PLAYERS ON THAT TEAM AS WELL. IT'S STAFF'S OPINION THIS PROVIDES THE BEST VALUE TO THE FPLA RATE PAYERS AND ALSO THE CITIZENS OF FT. PIERCE.
IT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE SHORTEST TIME FRAME THAT PUTS US IN THE BEST POSITION FOR GAINING THE GRANTS THAT SETHS TALKING ABOUT. IT MINIMIZING THE RISK TO THE UTILITY AUTHORITY. AND ALLOWS US TO STAY AHEAD OF MANDATE. YOU RECALL AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING MIKE MARTIN DID A PRESENTATION ON ONE OF THE NEW WATER DISCHARGE REGULATIONS THAT'S COMING OUT. WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THOSE. THE DP FOLKS HAVE BEEN AT THE PLANT A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND THE FIRST QUESTION THEY ASK AREN'T YOU MOVE THING PLANT.
WHEN ARE YOU MOVING THIS PLANT? DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO MOVE THE PLANT? WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THINGS TO THEM IN THAT NATURE.
THIS WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY IN FRONT OF THAT BEFORE THEY MANDATE THAT WE SIMPLY DO IT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ALL HAVE ONE COMMENT.
I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT THIS IS A ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING OUT THERE AND IT'S CHEAP FUNDING AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
>> HOW MUCH FUNDING DO YOU THINK WE WILL NEED?
>> WE'VE GOT SOME INVESTED. RIGHT?
>> WE CO. ALMOST 24 MILLION SO FAR IN THE VALUE OF THAT INVEST THE MORE THAN 24 MILLION.
TYPICAL COST FOR PLANT LIKE THIS IS AROUND 80 MILLION.
THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT THE COME OFF OF THAT. BUT YOU KNOW HEY THINGS ARE GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY DAY.
THERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE THAT PAUL TOUCHED ON.
THAT WE ARE STARTING TO DEVELOP GOOD COST FOR THAT.
AS WELL. THE FAST GRER WE DO IT THE BETTER. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE REST OF THE PLANT BEING CONSTRUCTED.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> IN SIMILAR PROJECTS LIKE
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THIS, APPROXIMATELY PERCENTAGE WHY HOW MUCH CAN THEY GET IN GRANTS? THAT'S ALSO A WEIRD QUESTION. THINGS ARE CHANGING.SLIDING AREA, YOU KNOW JUST IN GENERAL.
>> AGAIN IT'S CHANGED SO MUCH IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
IT'S ALMOST NOT COMPARABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE.
>> A YEAR OR TWO AGO YOU SAY YOU GET 2-3 MILLION WORTH OF GRANTS. IT'S GREAT.
DOESN'T HAVE HUGE IMPACT. FREE MONEY THE FREE PHENOMENON. IT WILL BE ALMOST ALL LOAN.
JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NO THAT MUCH GRANT MONEY PUT OUT THERE. IN RECENT YEAR.
NOW AGAIN THAT'S POTENTIALLY CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF GRANTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FOR OTHER WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'VE GOT WELL OVER 4 MILLION IN HAND OF GRANTS THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE BEFORE.
THAT'S JUST THROUGH THE STATE.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
ON THURSDAY WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR ANOTHER 900,000.
WE'LL PERPETUATE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE'LL ASK FOR THAT AS WELL. THE GRANTS ARE OUT THERE.
AND THEY ARE REALLY TRYING TO YOU KNOW TO GIVE THIS AWAY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AVENUES.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE PLAN IF WE GET LET'S SAY 20 MILLION DOLLARS. WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP
TO MAKE UP THE SHORTFALL? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FINANCING OPTIONS. THAT WOULD BE THE STRATEGY THAT SETH THE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT I WOULD ENVISION IS ALMOST A CHART. I'M ANNING NEAR.
I LOVE CHART WHERE YOU HAVE POTENTIAL GRANT FUNDING AND PUT REALISTIC NUMBERS IN THERE.
BUT STARTING FROM NONE TO FULL PROJECT VALUE AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER COST ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTAINED OF TAKE THAT AND SORT OUT WHAT TYPE OF A RATE INCREASE THAT THE GOING TO RESQUARE AS WELL. AND KEEP THAT AS MINIMUM AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR PEOPLE FOR OUR CITIZENS.
>> YES, SIR. >> THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE ARE DISCUSSED. THE PAY BACK ARE THEY ABOUT THE SAME FOR EACH OF THOSE. THEY VARIA.
FOR MOST PART YOU SEE LONGER PAY BACK FROM STATE AND FEDERAL THAN YOU WILL TO THE BOND MARKET.
YOU WILL SEE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 35 YEARS.
IT DOES KIND OF RANGE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> WE'VE HAD THREE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THIS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
ONE APPROACH WAS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.
COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY.
THEN WE LOOKED AT P-3 AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT DESIGN BUILD WOULD CAM THIS. WHATEVER THE SHORTHAND IS FOR THIS. AND SO AND YOU'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF COMPARISON. YOU MENTIONED THE RATE PAYERS. I THINK AT OUR MEETING WITH THE TALKING ABOUT THE P-3 I THINK MISS CAVALCANTE ASKED ABOUT PUTTING PEN TO PAIN JR. AND TELLING HOW MUCH IT WOULD KASZ AND HOW MUCH THE RATE PAYERS HAVE TO PAY IN ORDER TO DO IT THAT -- WITH THAT MECHANISM.
AND SO IS THERE ANYWAY THAT YOU COULD TELL US YOU STATES IT'S THE BEST VALUE FOR OUR RATE PAYER.
BUT THERE'S NO NUMBERS. >> THIS FIRST PHASE OF THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD, THAT IS GOING TO ANSWER A LOT OF THESE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
THAT WILL ANSWER A LOT OF THE PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE FUNDING QUESTIONS AND THAT WILL GIVE US A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHAT KIND OF GRANTS WE CAN GET.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO NARROW THE COST DOWN.
AND, AGAIN, EVEN IF WE DON'T CONTINUE WITH THIS MELT METHODOLOGY. THERE'S A VALUE TO THAT.
YOU ASKED THEM THAT. AND YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET ANY REAL GOOD ANSWERS FROM THEM.
THE FIRST PHASE WILL GET US THERE AND GET THE NUMBERS.
>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 80 MILLION PLANT.
DOES IT PULL OFF THE 24 MILLION FROM THERE.
OR IS THE 24 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE 80 MILLION?
>> 24 MILLION WE'VE . >> IT'S PRETTY CLOSE -- AGAIN I'M SPECULATING WHICH IS TOUGH TO DO. IT'S CERTAINLY HELPS AS I SAY THE DEEP INJECTION IS A HUGE PIECE FOR THAT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE 24 MILLION PULLED OFF OF THE 80. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OTHER PIECES THAT WOULD COME OFF OF THAT.
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BUT, AGAIN THE MARKET IS WHAT THE MARKET IS WITHMATERIALS AND SUCH. >> THAT DESIGN PHASE FIRST PHASE WE'LL KNOW WHAT I THINK HE SAID THE 30% POINT;
CORRECT? >> THAT'S AN ESTIMATE.
MIC. >> AT 30% YOU WOULD HAVE MORE SHARP INVESTMENT. BUT AT 60% YOU HAVE FIRM
>> OKAY. AND 30% WE WILL KNOW WITHIN HOW MANY DAYS WHETHER IT'S 60 DAYS.
SIX MONTHS. >> SECURING THE FUNDS FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES, TRADITIONALLY TAKES ABOUT HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN? WHAT ARE WE LACKING FOR? WE DIDN'T REALLY HEAR A TAME
LINE FROM YOU NECESSARILY? >> IT DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE WE SELECT. MY GENERAL RECOMMENDATION WE DEVELOP FUNDING STRATEGY AND IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
BASICALLY STARTING NOW AT THE SAME TIME.
WE WOULD DO IT CONCURRENT FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE WOULD IDENTIFY ALL THE POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES.
THE SCHEDULE FOR THOSE SOURCES, THE TOTAL COST.
SOME OF THESE WILL BE 0% INTEREST.
SOME WILL COME CAN REQUIREMENT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE TOTAL COST OF EACH OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
AND WHAT IT WILL MEAN. WE CAN KIND OF CHART ALL OF THAT OUT. WE TALK ABOUT GANT CHARTS WHERE WE CAN LAY OUT WHEN ARE THE APPLICATION DEADLINES. WHAT ARE THE TIME PERIODS FOR ALL OF THEM TO MAKE A DECISION AND SAY THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK FOR TIME. THIS GOOD SOURCE BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESSMENT.
OR IT'S A GREAT SOURCE AND WE MAYBE WE WANT TO SLOW DOWN AND WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS IT'S WORTH IT FROM A VALUE. WE WOULD DOING THAT THE SAME TIME AND IDENTIFYING KIND OF ALL THOSE MILESTONES AND THE SCHEDULE FOR EVERY FUNNING SOURCE INDIVIDUALLY AND BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME WE LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION OF
THE SITE. >> IF SAY WE GET 60 MILLION DOLLARS, FOR THIS $80 MILLION PROJECT.
AND THE 20 MILLION DOLLARS WE'RE SHORT 20 MILLION DOLLARS. WILL THE RATE PAYERS CONSUME THAT. WILL WE HAVE TO MAKE UP THE
DIFFERENCE? >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT UP IN RATE INCREASE, YES.
>> I LOVE YOUR OPTIMISM. I LAKE TO THROW A BIG NUMBER
>> IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE COST, AGAIN.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ONE SOURCE.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE OF FOUR DIFFERENT COURSES THAT FULLY FUND THIS PROJECT.
WE WANT TO TRY TO TAKE THAT ANALYSIS AS WE LOOK AT IT OF WHAT IS ALL OF DOES THIS MEAN TO TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT. WHAT DOES IT MEAN FROM RATE STANDPOINT. THAT'S WHAT THE REAL IMPACT IS. YOU KNOW THAT STUFF THAT WE COULD DO ALONG WITH OUR ANALYSIS OR WE CAN WORK WITH YOUR OTHER CONSULTANT TO HELP INFORM THEIR MODELS THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE TRACK NOT JUST THE TOTAL COST BUT WHAT THE REAL IMPACT GOING TO BE FROM RATE STANDPOINT. WORST CASE SCENARIO YOU LOOKED AT ALL ALONG. HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WOULD
MOVE DOWN FROM THERE. >> IF I COULD MAKE ANOTHER QUICK POINT. YOU MENTIONED ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY AT ANY TIME FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO JOIN BACK WITH US.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU BECAUSE THEIR LOGO ON THIS PRESENTATION. IS THAT A SHADOW PARTNER.
WHERE ARE WE ON THAT. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.
WE INVITE STAFF TO JOIN WITH US IN OUR TECHNICAL MEETING.
WE START DESIGNING THE PROCESS AND LOOK THAT DOOR WILL BE OPEN. US PARTNERING TOGETHER WILL.
>> POTENTIALLY BENEFIT FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT.
A LOT OF TIME THEY WANT TO PROMOTE COLLABORATION IN
PARTNERSHIPS. >> AT ANY TIME CAN THEY JOIN WITH US GREAT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PHASE TO THE END OF
YES, MA'AM. WE CAN PLUG THEM IN ANYTIME
THEY ARE READY. >> THEY ARE A FALL CUSTOMER RIGHT NOW. THEIR CUSTOMERS FROM ST.
LUCIE THEY PAY OVER AND ABOVE FOR THE COUNTY TO BE
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IN THAT BUSINESS. IS THAT CORRECT?WHERE WE STRIP OFF THE OVERHEAD THEY AREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR. THEN THEY HAVE TO MARKET IT UP FOR THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
>> I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. IN THE PRESENTATION THEY WERE GOING TO BE GETTING THE FUNDING AND THEN CHARGING US YOU KNOW PERCENTAGE OR WHATEVER ON TOP OF WHAT THEY WERE. THIS WILL BE FINNEDED FPLA
NOT TO GLOBAL TECH; CORRECT? >> HOPEFULLY THE BANK SENDS
US THE BILL. >> THIS IS VERY, VERY ENCOURAGING. WHY DIDN'T YOU RECOMMEND
THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE? >> WE WERE WORKING TOWARD THIS GOAL. THERE ARE MULTIPLE METHODOLOGIES WE LOOK FOR AT THE SAME TIME TO BE HONEST WITH YOU DELIVERY METHOD WE HAD PRESIDENTED QUITE GOT ENTHERE YET. OUR DISCUSSION WAS HOW MUCH WILL IT COST. HOW WILL WE SPLIT IT UP? WE WERE GETTING FLEW THAT. METHODOLOGY I WOULD ARGUE WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT ANYWAY.
WITH THE POLITICAL CLIMATE NOW AND THE VALUE OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THIS JUST PUSHED EVERYTHING FORWARD. THIS MOMENTUM WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT. >> I REMEMBER AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU WERE MAKING PRESENTATIONS TO US INDIVIDUALLY THAT WERE GOING TO GO TO THE COUNTY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE COULD GO IT ALONE IF WE HAD TO GO IT ALONE. WAS THIS THE METHOD -- WAS
THAT IN YOUR MIND, THEN? >> AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT I HADN'T STARTED DELVING INTO THE METTODOLOGY.
WHEN WE REALLY TOOK THE DEEP DIVE IN THIS OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS THIS REALLY CAME TO THE TOP AND THE EFFICIENCIES IN TIME AND JUST TRANSPARENCY I GUESS IS THE BIGGEST THING FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT JUST BEING ABLE TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT EFFICIENTLY WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE. IS YOU KNOW THAT'S A GREAT VALUE. I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THE RATE PAYER WILL PAY. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. BECAUSE WE HAVE AS THE BOARD AND AS A CITY AND COUNTY SAID THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL THING TO DO. BUT I DON'T KNOW OUR CITIZENS ACTUALLY ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL THING TO DO.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY THINK LONG AND HARD IF WE WILL ASK THEM TO PAY MORE MONEY.
THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.
>> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S A COMMENT THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HAD MADE AS WELL.
THE PUBLIC OUTREACH ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE OF JUST THE LONG-TERM VALUE OF REUTILIZATION OF THAT PROPERTY.
GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE TO THE PEOPLE.
SO WHEN THEY ARE ASKED TO ABSORB A FEW PERCENT EXTRA THEY REALIZE THE AMOUNT OF JOBS AND TAXABLE INCOME THAT WILL CREATE AND THE OVERALL VALUE.
WELL, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT EVERYBODY IS FOR ENVIRONMENT -- ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT UNTIL THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM.
AND THEY HAVE TO TRUST THAT YOU KNOW THE TAXES THE -- ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE FUTURE.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY AVERAGE RATE PAYER TAX PAYER DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRUST THAT, THAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN. >> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
IN ALL OF OUR THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, DO WE INCLUDE THE DECOMMISSIONING COST OF THE
PLANT? >> THE DECOMMISSIONING WOULD BE ABOVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE TALKED HERE TODAY THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. BUT THEN THE ENTIRE PACKAGE WAS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. IT HAD A VERY LARGE CON TEN AGAIN S ON IT. IT'S A 30,000 FOOT VIEW.
AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND HONE IN ON THE COST OF PLANT ITSELF. WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING GLOBAL TECH TO HELP US WITH. WE WILL HONE IN ON THE REST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST AS WELL THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DECOMMISSIONING OF THE PLANT.
>> 131 IN TODAY'S DOLLAR INCLUDING CON ON THE AGAINSY. IF WE CARRY OUT FIVE YEAR.
FIVE YEAR INCREMENT WAS KEEPING THE RATE INCREASE SMALL AS WE WENT. IT WAS IN THERE 150 MILLION.
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>> WE TALKED ABOUT ASKING TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL TO HELP US IN THIS PROCESS.
IT SEEMS TO ME WE TALK ABOUT HAVING FNL HELP BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE TREASURE COAST COULD HELP US IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF THIS, HAVE YOU TALKED TO MISS DELANEY ABOUT HER ROLL OR THEIR ROLL IN
THIS? >> I TALKED TO HER NOT IN GREAT DETAIL. I THINK YOU KNOW THE CHARGE THAT SHE'S PUT TOGETHER ABILITY SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED AND WE'RE WILLING TO HELP IN ANY WAY WITH WE. I KNOW THAT WE TALK ABOUT I THINK I TALK TO KIM LAST WEAK.
SHE SAID SHE WILL TRY TO GET TO THE SEPTEMBER 7 LITTLE CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND GO FROM THERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THE PROCESS WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO APPROVE INTERLOCAL BETWEEN THE CITY.
AND TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
THEN A SERIES OF OTHER STEPS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EEVENT ACTUAL CONCLUSION OF INTERLOCAL BETWEEN THE CITY AND FPUA. WE'RE NOT -- I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL BE IN THAT INTERLOCAL.
I SUSPECT THAT A MAJORITY WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE
>> OKAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE PART OF THIS. THIS HAS A REGIONAL IMPACT.
HUGE REGIONAL IMPACT. THEY HELPED US WITH OTHER PROJECT TOO. AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCING AND THE PLANT BUT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, MAYBE THAT HELPS US PUT IT ALL
TOGETHER. >> I THINK BECAUSE OF OUR STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION AND WHEN WE TALK TO THE COUNCIL IN THE GIRL I THINK THAT FINDS THE FUNDING.
30-YEAR PAY BACK WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.
>> I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION TO MAKE.
>> YOU NEED TO KEEP US IN POSITION.
THAT WOULD NOT HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON RATES, I DON'T THINK. BORROWING 80 MILLION WOULD.
I GO BOUNCE IT OFF. >> IT'S OVER 30 YEARS.
>> IT WAS NOT REAL SUBSTANTIAL -- WELL IT WAS CERTAINLY SUBSTANTIAL THE NUMBER THAT WE LOOKED AT WITH THE HIGH ESTIMATE FROM RAFT ELLIS AND BREAKING IT OUT OVER FIVE YEARS WITH THE COUNTY PARTNERING WITH US GETTING OUR PIECE DOWN TO ALL-IN COST WAS THE HIGH 90S. THAT PUT US ABOUT 21/2 PERCENT RATE INCREASE. THAT'S A GOOD BALLPARK.
IF WE CAN GET THE NUMBER DOWN.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET A GRANT THAT MIGHT SUPPLEMENT WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING FROM OUR COUNTY PARTNER AS WELL.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE 40 MILLION.
WE CAN GET IN THAT BALLPARK. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW 2-3% OR 4% MAYBE AND IT WILL BE GRADUATED UP AS WELL. WE WILL TRY TO MAKE THAT IMPACT OBVIOUSLY AS MINIMAL AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
IS THAT JUST ON WASTEWATER. >> THAT WAS WASTEWATER AND
WATER. >> BOTH OF THEM GOT THAT
>> OVER FIVE YEARS WE'RE TALKING LIKE 22%.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> IF YOU BROKE IT UP, YES,
OVERALL. >> THEN THE INCOME FROM THE NEW PLANT GOES TOWARD REDUCING IT.
>> THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATES.
WE'RE TRYING TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE WITH THE INCREASES. WE'RE TALKING INCREASES UP FRONT TO BUILDUP A FUND TO HANDLE THIS.
ONCE AGAIN IT'S IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION THAT THE 2.5% THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION A WHILE BACK THAT'S ASSUMED NO GRANTS. I THINK THERE'S WE HAVE A LOT HIGHER OPTIMISM LEVEL WE CAN OBTAIN SOME GRANTS TO
OFF SET THE NUMBERS. >> I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RATE PAYERS RATE. AND IS THERE A TIME FRAME THAT YOU CAN COME AND GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF WHEN WILL WE KNOW THE INCREASE THE RATE PAYERS WILL BE PAYING.
CAN YOU GIVE ME -- >> TIME FRAME.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THE BOARD APPROVES THE PHASE ONE OF THE PROGRESSIVE DINE BILL THIS WILL ALLOW TO US DRILL DOWN ON THOSE NUMBERS AT THE SAME TIME THAT, THAT'S
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HAPPENING WE HAVE A HELP FROM HAZEN.THEY WILL LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE RATE IMPACTS.
JUST LIKE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE WHEN WE LOOKED AT PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY.
WE LOOK TO GET THAT WITH THIS PROCESS IN PARALLEL.
AT THE END OF THE DESIGN BUILD WE WILL GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS. WE'LL HAVE OPTIONS AT THAT POINT. IF THE BOARD DECIDES IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY FOR US TO AFFORD RIGHT NOW OR TO PUT ON THE RATE PAYERS, THEN THAT'S THE OPTION OF THE BOARD. ALL WE CAN DO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION. BUT IT WILL BE A MUCH, MUCH CLEARER PICTURE. ALL THE NUMBERS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY, I HATE TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SPECULATION. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING. WE HAVE TO HAVE A STARTING POINT. ALL THOSE INCREASES NOT ONLY BE APPROVED BY FPLA BOARD BUT THE CITY COMMISSION AS WELL. NEED THEIR BUY IN TO DO
THAT. >> LOOKING AT THIS CHART IF I'M READ THING RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME MAYBE NOVEMBER OF 2022. WE WOULD HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS THE COMMITMENT. IS THIS CORRECT?
>> I THINK BY END OF THIRD QUARTER WE HAVE GMP.
>> IF I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT.
>> THAT WOULD GIVE A FAIRLY GOOD IDEA.
A 1 1/2 OR YEAR AND SOME MONTHS FROM NOW.
WE WOULD HAVE AN ABSOLUTE COMMITMENT NUMBER.
>> IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PERCENTAGE ERROR THAT'S THERE. 10% CONTINGENCY.
THEN WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING FURTHER.
I THINK THE REASON WE DIDN'T MOVE QUICKER ON THIS WHOLE WASTEWATER PLANT WAS JUST FOR THE REASON.
WAS THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASES TO THE RATE PAYER. IT'S BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRE, I GUESS AS DEVELOPMENT GOES ON AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE ISLAND.
WITH THIS REMOVED. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM THE BOARD NOW AND NEAR FUTURE.
>> THIS IS REALLY AN INFORMATION ONLY PRESENTATION. AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WE WILL BRING YOU A CONTRACT TO REVIEW.
AND TO EXECUTE FOR THE PHASE ONE.
HOPEFULLY OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WE GET THE CRACK CLOSER TO COMPLETE. WE CAN POTENTIALLY BRING EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IN AND WE CAN GO THROUGH EVERYTHING IN DETAIL FOR WHAT WE HAVE SO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW PRIOR TO THE MEETING HAS ALL THE INFORMATION. THIS IS A HUGE DECISION.
I DON'T THINK FPLA BOARD HAS EVER HAD TO MAKE A DECISION THIS BIG. IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOUEN IN A ONE ON ONE SETTING.
PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING. THEN EVERYTHING TRANSPARENT.
YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT.
>> FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THE RATE INCREASES.
IS YOUR OPINION THEY WILL STEP UP AND FLATTEN OUT OR R FOR FIVE YEARS OR THEY WILL STAY THERE UNTIL HOW LONG?
>> THEY WOULD THEY WOULD MOST LIKELY STAY THERE.
BUT THE METHODOLOGY WE USED PRIOR TO LOOKING AT THIS WAS A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER. WHAT WE WOULD TRY TO DO IS GET I WILL CALL IT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
21/2 PERCENT APPROVED FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS.
OR MAYBE IF THAT'S TOO MUCH WE GO TO SIX OR SEVEN YEARS WHATEVER TO SLOWLY RAMP UP. WE'VE LOOKED AT IT EVERY YEAR. LET'S SAID THE BOARD APPROVED 21/2 PERCENT BUT SEH DOES HIS ROCK STAR THING AND KNOCKS 60 MILLION OFF THE TOP YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE 2 AND A HALF. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT. WE'LL ASK FOR MAXIMUM AND TRY TO WIDDLE DOWN TO EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED EACH TIME. I GUESS THAT LEADS TO NEXT QUESTION WHAT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY AFTERWARD.
DEFINITELY A BENEFIT FOR THE TAX PAYER FOR THE FUNDS AND THE SALE OF THAT SITE TO GO BACK TO UA TO HELP OFF SET THE RATE PAYERS MONTHLY COST.
WOULD YOU AGREE. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR ASKING THE REGIONAL PLANNING ZONE TO HELP US DECIDE AT THIS POINT. I'M AN ENGINEER MY GOAL FOR 18 YEARS TO MOVE THAT PLANT. I KNOW THAT, THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE VALUABLE TO THE UTILITY AND ALSO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND JUST EVERYBODY.
IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL GOOD TAX GENERATOR FOR US.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THAT MONEY COME BACK TO HELP OFF SET THE COST AND THE RATES AS WELL.
BUT THAT DECISION IS WELL BEYOND ME.
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THIS IS JUST BASIC. THE STEPS THAT WE TAKEN YOU HAVE PLANT DESIGN. STEPS ALREADY TAKEN.THAT'S YOUR SECOND PAGE. YES, MA'AM.
>> 2.2 MILLION YOU SPENT ON THE ORIGINAL DESIGN BILL.
>> WE'RE IN DESIGN BILL. DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY KIND OF TO START US OFF.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE GOT SOME HOMEWORK DONE. WE ABSOLUTELY DO.
AND ACTUALLY. PAUL HAD DONE SOME OF THAT ORIGINAL HOMEWORK BACK IN THE DAY.
>> ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE ALSO WITH THE RATE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID THROUGH HAZEN WE HAVE HAZEN ONBOARD WHO HAS DONE A LOT OF THE HOMEWORK AS WELL.
YOU ARE RIGHT. WE ALREADY HAVE A WAY TO CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WE'VE EXPENDED TOWARDS.
THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE TIME FRAME FOR BUILD
AND DECOMMISSION? >> WELL THE WILDCARD THERE IS GETTING THE REST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE FLOWS TO PLANT.
THAT WILL MOVE ON THE PARALLEL PATH.
I WILL HAVE TO BE STAGED. THE OTHER PLANT HAS TO BE ONLINE BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO START SENDING FLOW TO IT.
WHAT WE WOULD TRY TO DO IS BREAK THAT UP INTO LOGICAL STEPS YOU CAN'T JUST FLIP THE SWITCH AND GO.
THERE'S DECENT AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
THE VERY LAST PIECE THE LIFT STATION A.
THAT'S VERY OWN LARGE PROJECT.
WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP EVERYTHING FOLLOWING THROUGH IT TO THE ISLAND UNTIL WE CAN FINALLY THROW THAT FINAL SWITCH. AND BREAK THE CHAMPAGNE.
WE NEED TO MEET WITH THE STATE LEGISLATORS, PRETTY SOON SO THAT BEFORE THEY GO UP TO SESSION SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SENATOR HARRELL AND DANA ARE BOTH IN THE MAJORITY RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THEM TO BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM ON THURSDAY. YOU WILL BE OUT THERE FOR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. WE HAVE RECURRING APPROPRIATION FOR THE SEWER LINING.
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> AWARD OF ATTORNEY. NOTHING TO REPORT ON AT THIS
[J. DIRECTOR:]
>> I JUST COUPLE OF QUICK ITEMS, I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THE FPLA STAFF PRESENTED THE BUDGET FOR APPROVAL LAST NIGHT'S CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND ITS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON COVID-19. I LISTENED TO THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING LAST NIGHT.
AND THEIR DISCUSSION ON COVID-19 WE'RE JUST LIKE THE CITY WE'RE EXPERIENCING A STEEP INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF COVID-19 POSITIVE TESTS. AND PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING SICK. OVER THE LAST MONTH, 30 PEOPLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION HAVE BEEN INFECTED.
OF THOSE 30, 15 PEOPLE RETURNED TO WORK IN THE REST ARE EITHER SICK OR IN ISOLATION DUE TO CONTACT WITH COVID-19 POSITIVE PEOPLE.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE PRETTY SERIOUSLY ILL WHICH REQUIRED HOSPITALIZATION. SO FAR WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY OF OUR PROTOCOLS. BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO ACTIVELY ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES TO GET VACCINATED AND TO CONTINUE TO SOCIAL DISTANCE.
WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO ISOLATE OUR CONTROL ROOMS AND I'M TALKING ABOUT IF DISPATCH AND THE CONTROL ROOM AT THE WATER PLANT AND THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. BECAUSE THOSE ARE MOST VULNERABLE AREAS. I HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN A PRESENTATION BY ROB LORD FROM CLEVELAND CLINIC.
HE SAID SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE ALL KNOW.
I WILL JUST REPEAT THEM REAL QUICKLY.
THE NUMBER OF CASES HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE AND SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN THE PEEK LAST JANUARY.
HE THINKS THAT THE CURRENT PEEK OR -- WILL FLATTEN OUT IN ANOTHER TEN TO 14 DAYS. BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CASES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. THE PATIENT THAT ARE COMING TO THE HOSPITAL ARE YOUNGER AND SICKER.
AND IN MOST CASES UNVACCINATED.
AND THE VACCINATED BREAK THROUGH CASES COMING TO THE HOSPITAL ARE NORMALLY BEING TREATED AND RELEASED IN ONE TO THREE DAYS. WHEREAS THE UNVACCINATED FOLKS COULD BE THERE ANYWHERE FROM 8 TO 30 DAYS.
SOME OF THE ELECTIVE SURGERIES ARE POSTPONED AT
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THIS POINT. THE HOSPITALS ARE CLOSE TO BEING AT BREAKING POINT. THEY ARE REALLY BEING STRESSED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN.AND THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF NURSES.
WE STILL GOT SOME WORK TO DO HERE.
I WILL BE TOUGH FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, I THINK.
IN TERMS OF FPUA. OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE GROUP IS BEEN THE ONE THAT'S BEEN HIT PARTICULARLY HARD AND THE MAJOR IMPACT TO OUR CUSTOMERS WILL BE INCREASED WAIT TIME ON PHONE CALLS. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE ANSWERING THE PHONE.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S IN OTHER IMPACTS TO OUR NORMAL OPERATION. PEOPLE ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. AND THE LAST ITEM IS STAFF WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER BARBARA BENNETT. WE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK TO GET HER READY FOR TODAY'S MEETING AND WE'LL BE SCHEDULING A FULL DAY OF ORIENTATION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
[L. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS]
>> JOIN YOU IN WELCOME MISS BENNETT.
AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
WE TALKED ABOUT COVID-19 AND BEFORE MISS BENNETT WAS ON THE BOARD HERE WE DISCUSSED THE OPENING OF THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DESK AGAIN. IRONICALLY YOU ARE HERE TODAY. THAT THE ONE TOPIC I WANTED TO DISCUSS. ARE WE LOOKING AT MAYBE POTENTIAL SO SOLUTIONS SO PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND ASK QUESTION RATHER THAN WAIT ON THE PHONE.
YOU GET A DIFFERENT PERSON WHEN YOU SIT IN FRONT OF THEM RATHER THAN OVER THE PHONE.
YOU KNOW. >> WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A REDESIGNING OUR CUSTOMER LOBBY TO HAVE PERMANENT WALK UP WINDOW. WE HAVE TWO WALK H UP WINDOWS NOW. I THINK THAT'S BEEN WORKING PRETTY EFFECTIVELY. THOSE WALK UP WINDOWS ARE LIMITED TO ESTABLISHING SERVICE AND MOVING SERVICE.
WE HAD VERY GOOD SUCCESS WITH OUR WALK UP KEOSK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR DROP BOX IN THE LOBBY AND ALSO OUR DRIVE-THRU. THE LAST I GUESS IT'S BEEN LIKE TWO OR THREE MONTHS. WE'VE HAD THE DRIVE-THRU KEOSK, AND WE'RE STARTING TO GET SOME SUCCESS THERE.
I THOUGHT FOR SURE WHEN THE DRIVE-IN KEOSK THE PEOPLE THAT USE IN WALK-IN KEOSK WOULDN'T USE IT AS MUCH ANYMORE. BUT THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN USED TO IDEA OF DRIVING THROUGH AS OPPOSED TO WALKING UP. WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO THERE. WE WILL TRY TO COME UP WITH A PERMANENT LOBBY SOLUTION AND I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO ANSWER AT THIS POINT IN TIME. BECAUSE I THINK WAIT TIME HAVEN'T BEEN TOO BAD YET. I THINK THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THEM BEING LONGER. I THINK WE WERE 3-4 MINUTES SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK, WHICH IF YOU DEAL WITH COME WAS THERE'S A MIRACLE FOR THAT.
BUT BUT WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LESS THAN FOUR MINUTE.
IF IT'S MORE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THEN WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE LOBBY AREA.
>> OKAY. >> HOW ARE WE ADVERTISING
>> YES. >> I MEAN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
I THINK WE HAD SOME POSTS ON FACEBOOK.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON OUR WEB SITE.
WE'RE GOING -- WE DIDN'T -- WE DONE SOME BILL INSERTS. ALL DIFFERENT WAYS OF ADVERTISING THESE THINGS. WE'VE BEEN YOU KNOW WE BEEN THE COVID PANDEMIC HAS HAS HAD ONE GOOD BENEFIT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. THEY'VE LEARNED AND FIGURED OUT OTHER WAYS TO PAY. AND IT'S BEEN MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM AS WELL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOOD
ABOUT IT THAT'S ABOUT IT. >> THE IDEA ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF COAST MY DAUGHTER WHO PEDIATRICIAN SAYING ON AVERAGE OF MAYBE 3-4 PATIENT A WEEK.
NOW TEN TO 15 A DAY. THESE ARE YOUNG CHILDREN.
IT SHOWS YOU HOW SERIOUS IT'S GOTTEN.
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>> SO LAST WEEK WE SPOKE ABOUT SIX SESSION PLAN FOR MR. TOMPECK. AND I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME THINKING TOO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. KOBLEGARD'S PLAN FOR RETIREMENT IS.
MAYBE WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND COME UP WITH A PLAN AND YOU IN CONCERT WITH MR. TOMPECK'S EXIT.
I FIGURED I WOULD BRING IT UP AND HAVE CHAT ABOUT WHAT
YOU GUYS THINK. >> I THINK WE JUST RENEWED HIS CONTRACT ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AGO MAYBE AS I
RECALL. >> I DON'T KNOW ASK HIM.
>> DIDN'T WE JUST RENEW YOUR CONTRACT RECENTLY A COUPLE
OF MONTHS AGO? >> I THINK THE SAME TIME WE DID MR. TOMPECKAS AS WELL. WE WERE ORIGINALLY WORKING WITH LETTER AGREEMENT FROM MR. COBB KOEB.
I THINK WE KID MAKE SOMETHING MORE FORMALIZED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. COUPLE YEARS AGO.
A LETTER TO A NATIONAL CONTRACT THAT I NOW HAVE.
WITH THE UTILITY AUTHORITY. HAS NO REAL TIME FRAME IN IT WHEN I HAVE TO RETIRE. IT'S STILL UP TO ME TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I CERTAINLY WOULD TELL YOU THAT I WILL BE GONE LONG BEFORE I DECIDE TO MOVE ON.
IF THAT'S SATISFACTORY ANSWER FROM MY STANDPOINT.
>> UNLESS YOU NEED ME TO MOVE ON.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR RETIREMENT? DO YOU HAVE A DATE IN MIND OR ANYTHING ALREADY THAT JUST SO THAT WE HAVE
SOMETHING? >> I THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
AT TIMES BUT QUITE HONESTLY, I HAVE BEEN SO INTERESTED IN THIS MOVING THE PLANT AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THROUGH.
>> THAT'S SORT OF MY THINKING RIGHT NOW.
UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER REASON WHY I SHOULD
RECONSIDER THAT. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM
THE BOARD? >> I HAVE A CONFLICT OF
INTEREST. >> OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.