[a. St. Lucie County Public Transportation Municipal Services Taxing Unit – Presentation on extension of Interlocal Agreement between the City of Fort Pierce and St. Lucie County]

BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN BEFORE YOU GET STARTED I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT 5:05 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO OUR BUDGET HEARING AT THAT TIME.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT FINISHED I WILL INTERRUPT YOU THEN LET YOU RESUME ONCE WE DO THAT BUDGET HEARING.

>> I SHOULD BE DONE BY 5:05. >> THAT WAS A NICE -- KIND OF A NICE WAY TO HINT WASN'T IT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. TO TALK ABOUT TRANSIT.

AND OUR TEAM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY UPDATE YOU ON HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING WITH TRANSITS. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

I THINK THAT YOU RECEIVE SOME UPDATES ON THEM.

THE IMPORTANCE OF MSTU. BECAUSE OF THAT IS VERY

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IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTY FOR THIS CITY TO MOVE TRANSIT FORWARD. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT INITIATIVES THAT ARE ONGOING TODAY ON TRANSIT SIDE OF IT.

YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT 60% OF YOUR RESIDENTS USE TRANSIT SERVICES. THERE HAS BEEN MANY ADVANCEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSIT SO I'M PROUD TO PROUD TO BRING UP BILL. I WILL GET THROUGH THE VERY QUICKLY WE HAVE THE TEAM HERE WHO IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE MUNICIPAL SERVICES TAXES UNIT. WE TRY NOT TO USE ACRONYMS AS MUCH AS THE T.P.O. DOES. [LAUGHTER]

>> PART OF OUR WORLD I'M AFRAID.

ACRONYMS. SO YOUR BILL.

LAST NAME. >> BILL BALL.

I AM THE CHIEF OPERATINGING OFFICER.

WHAT I I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IS I DOES WORK SOMETIMES WITH HELP. YOU ARE WELCOME TO SIT DOWN.

THERE WE GO. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO I WAS WORKING ON THE SIMILAR PROJECT FOR THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY ONE OF THE REASONS DIANA REALLY LIKED MY INVOLVEMENT WAS THE HISTORY I BROUGHT TO THIS PROJECT. IT WAS A CHALLENGE AT THAT TIME. REALLY SHORTAGE OF FUNDED FOR TRANSIT. A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE COUNTY. IN THE ENWE CAME UP WITH SOME BASIC THINGS. THE IDEA THAT OF COURSE WE WOULD LIKE IT TO GROW OVER TIME.

AND AND NOT BE FLAT THAT. THE CITY SHOULD PARTICIPATE.

THEY'RE BIG USERS OF THE TRANSIT SERVICE THEY SHOULD BE INVOLVED. WHAT THE RESULT OF WHICH WAS MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT.

THAT'S THE CONCLUSION THAT THE GROUP OF ELECTED OFFICIALS CAME TO AT THAT WORKSHOP.

SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TODAY WAS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY WHERE WE'VE COME TO TODAY WHAT DO WE NEED TO SUSTAIN IT AND KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. WHEN IT STARTED IT WAS A TENTH OF A MILL. I'LL TELL YOU IN A MOMENT WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF DOLLARS.

BASICALLY STAYED AT A THERE WAS A NEED TO INCREASE IT SLIGHTLY WHEN WHEN PROPERTY VALUES PLUMMETED DURING THAT GREAT RECESSION. MORE IMPORTANTLY DOES WHAT DOES THAT GENERATE IN TERMS OF DOLLARS.

THERE WAS THAT INCREASE IN THE RATE THAT OCCURRED TO HELP ADJUST FOR THAT THEN HAVE YOU SEEN IT GROWING SINCE THEN. IT REALLY MET THE INTENT OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN THAT IT DID GROW OVER TIME.

WITHOUT INCREASING THE MILLAGE RATE BUT EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE TIME. POSSIBLY THING IS WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THAT INVESTMENT. I WILL SPEAK FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE FIRST THEN DRILL DOWN TO WHAT FORT PIERCE GETS IN PARTICULAR. AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THERE'S EIGHT BUS ROUTES THAT OPERATE PROVIDING CIRCULATION AND CONNECTION THERE'S SOME ON DEMAND SERVICE WHICH OPERATES IN PORT ST. LUCIE TO THE SOUTH.

THEN THERE'S THAT DOOR-TO-DOOR SERVICE FOR PERSONS WITH DISABLES OLDING ADULTS THAT AVAILABLE -- WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW COVID IMPACTED THAT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE THERE'S CONNECTIONS TO THE NORTH IN INDIAN RIVER AND TO THE SOUTH IN MARTIN TO THEIR RESPECTIVE TRANSIT SYSTEMS AS WELL.

IF YOU LOOK AT FOR THE PIERCE IN PARTICULAR FIVE SERVE THE CITY OF OF THE FOR THE PIERCE.

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OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE THAT'S THERE FOR TRANSFERING FROM ROUTE TO ROUTE AND IMPROVEMENT AND BUS STOP I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS THAT DID NOT FAREWELL RECENTLY THIS WEEKEND BUT THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED AS WELL IF YOU LOOK AT RIDERSHIP AGAIN YOU SAW FROM THE BEGINNING IT STARTED AT A FAIRLY NOMINAL LEVEL WITH GRADUAL INCREASES OVER TIME.

A BIG POLICY CHANGE OCCURRED WHEN THEY WENT FARE FREE THAT'S WHEN YOU STARTED SEEING THE RIDERSHIP REALLY JUMP YOU SEE IT IN 18 AND 19.

OF COURSE COVID HIT AND ALL TRANSIT AGENCIES SUFFERED FROM THE RESULT OF COVID SO YOU SEE THE DECLINE.

HERE IN ST. LUCIE DID NOT SUFFER AS MUCH AS MANY AND MOST TRANSIT SYSTEMS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

SO THEY'RE STILL RECOVERING FROM THAT THEN A BIG ARE DROP YOU SEE THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT LITTLE CYCLE OF UP AND DOWN THERE WAS SOME SERVICE THAT HAD TO BE CUT DURING COVID-19 I'LL MENTION THE DOOR-TO-DOOR TRIPS AGAIN.

THIS BASICALLY IS A SAMPLE OF TRIPS SO YOU CAN GET THE FEEL FOR THE ORIGINS AND DESTINATIONS OF THRAPS ARE PROVIDED DOOR-TO-DOOR FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITY AND OLDER ADULTS. YOU REALLY CAN SEE THAT IT'S PRETTY WELL DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN HOW THEY USE IT FOR THEIR DAILY LIVES.

TOP THREE PURPOSES TO GET TO WORK AND SHOPPING DESTINATIONS AND ALL LIFE SUSTAINING BY GETTING PEOPLE TO JOBS FOR BUSINESSES IN THE AREA YOU ARE ABLE TO

GETS ARE 70. >> TRANSIT SYSTEM RUNS AT A PROFIT AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS DONE A NICE JOB AT LEVERAGING THESE STATE GRANTS.

DEFINITELY REINFORCES THE COUNTY VISION PRESUMABLY ALSO DOES THE CITY'S VISION AS WELL.

THE ONE THAT I'LL EMPHASIZE IN PARTICULAR IS THE THRIVING COMMUNITY BASICALLY GOAL AND THE TWO KEY OBJECTIVES THAT TRANSIT CONTRIBUTES TO QUALITY OF LIFE REALLY PROVIDES MOBILITY FOR THOSE LIFE SUSTAINING SERVICES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

GETTING PEOPLE TO JOBS. THIS IS AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS A VIDEO BEFORE COVID BECAUSE NOBODY IS WEARING A MASK IN THIS VIDEO.

BUT, AS YOU SEE THIS BUS DRIVING DOWN THE U.S. 1 CORRIDOR YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THE BUS. IT REALLY IS A GOOD INDICATION OF HOW MUCH IT'S BEING USED HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS ESPECIALLY ON THAT U.S. 1 CORRIDOR SPINE.

MANY TIMES IT'S AT STANDING ROOM ONLY.

AGAIN THIS IS BEFORE COVID SO WE'RE WORKING NOW TO GET SERVICES BACK UP TO WHERE THEY AND WERE GET RIDISHSHIP BACK ON TRACK AS WELL. -- RIDERSHIP BACK ON TRACK

AS WELL. >> THE COUNTY IS ALSO LOOKING CLOSELY AT OPTIMIZING THE RESOURCES THEY CONTINUELY HAVE TODAY. WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING MOST OUT OF THE RESOURCES WITH DEHAVE.

THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

IF WE HAD ALL THE RESOURCES IN THE WORLD WE COULD PROVIDE SERVICE TO ALL AREAS, WE COULD PROVIDE THE MOST HIGHLY UTILIZED SERVICE IN THE AREAS THAT NEED IT MOST EVEN MORE. UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE RESOURCES SO WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE CHOICE BETWEEN COVERING MORE AREA OR PROVIDING HIGHER LEVELS OF SERVICE AND INCREASING RIDERSHIP ON THE CORE CORRIDORS. SO THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE WE OPTIMIZE AND CHOOSE SOMEWHERE ALONG THIS SPECTRUM OF OPTIONS OF BALANCING THAT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE BIGGEST RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT.

>> THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT EACH HOUSEHOLD WOULD PAY AT THE CURRENT RATE WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONTINUE.

YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT PROPERTY VALUES WHAT THE COST OF THE M.S.T. WOULD BE ANNUALLY, AND IT RANGES FROM

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$12 TO $32 PER YEAR FOR EACH HOUSEHOLD BASED ON THOSE PROPERTY VALUES. OF COURSE HIGHER PROPERTY VALUES GOES UP A LITTLE MORE THAN.

THAT BUT IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT WOULD CONTINUE TO COST IF IT WERE TO CONTINUE. DON'T WANT TO COVER ALL THE SLIDE EXCEPT TO SAY THESE ARE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED UNDER THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED WITH THE CITY ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO NOW.

SO WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY IS THIS VERY GOOD HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY AGREEMENT HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO BE FLEXIBLE, TO RESPOND TO THINGS AS THESE COME UP OVER THAT 20 YEARS FOR BOTH CITIES, AND UNINCORPORATED COUNTY. AND THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

SO WHERE WE ARE NOW IS WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THE CITIES TO APPROVE A RENEWAL OF THE AGREEMENT THE IT EXPIRES IN 2023. BUT THE COUNTY IS STARTING VERY EARLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO LAPSE IN THOSE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENTS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND I BELIEVE IT IS ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY AS WELL. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK ONE.

YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT AND I JUST DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.

FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S INVESTED IN THESE PROGRAMS IS THERE A RETURN AN ECONOMIC RETURN THAT WE CAN

TALK ABOUT AND PROMOTE? >>Y.

>> IN TERM IN TERMS OF THE IN THE ECONOMY ITSELF?

>> YES, SIR,. >> THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSIT ASSOCIATION DOES REALLY STUDIES TO ESTIMATE THAT. I DON'T HAVE LOCALIZED DATA.

BUT IN GENERAL IT'S ABOUT FIVE TIMES THE INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE ECONOMY.

>> OKAY. >> I DID NOT SAY THAT.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> BECAUSE MOVING PEOPLE TO AND FROM JOBS OR SHOPPING OR RETAIL OR WHATEVER THEIR EXPERIENCES ARE SO THAT'S AND THAT'S FIVE TIME.

>> THAT'S THE ESTIMATE, YES. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THOSE CHANGES IN DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COUNTY?

>> I THINK A BIG WAY THAT THE INDUSTRY IS GOING IS THE TYPES OF TRANSIT SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED ARE EVOLVING TO RESPOND TO THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE SERVICES THAT'S NOW IMPLEMENTED IN PORT ST. LUCIE THIS HAPPENED BEFORE COVID WAS WHAT THEY CALL MICROTRANSIT OR MOBILITY ON DEMAND.

ESTABLISHING THESE ZONES WITH SMALLER VEHICLES TAKING PEOPLE TO AND FROM CLOSER TO THEIR DESTINATIONS.

AND IN THE RIGHT PLACES THAT CAN RESPOND TO THE COVID CONCERNS BUT ALSO RESPOND TO THE DEMAND IN A HIGHER QUALITY WAY. THAT'S A BIG WAY NOW THAT DOESN'T ANSWER ALL DEMANDS BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THOSE CORRIDORS THAT NEED THAT HIGHER CAPACITY SERVICE BUT IT'S A MIX OF TRANSIT SOLUTIONS THAT WE START RESPONDING TO THAT ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THESE WHEN WE HEAR A MILLION SQUARE FEET IN SOME OF THESE LARGE BIG BOXES GOING UP. ALL I CAN IMAGINE IS THAT WILL CHANGE THE WAY WE LOOK AT MOVING PEOPLE.

SO AS LONG AS WE'RE RESPONDING TO THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT STEP IS TO CONTINUE WITH THAT LOCAL FUNDING INVESTMENT.

CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY INCREASE SERVICE OVER TIME.

WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE SERVICE OVERNIGHT SO IT'S A GRADUAL INVESTMENT.

MR. C JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU.

I'M GLAD WE'RE GETTING STARTED ON INTERLOCAL PRETTY EARLY. THE M.S.T. IS BASED ON HOUSEHOLD ASSESSED VALUES OF THAT.

IN ANY CONSIDERATION LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING PARAMETERS DUE TO THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS ARE GROWING AND PARTNERSHIPS OUT THERE.

I SO THAT AS A GREAT NEED AS WE TRY TO GET THE WORKFORCE OUT THERE AND GET PEOPLE TO THESE AREAS WHERE THESE LARGE FOOTPRINTS WILL BE. I'M JUST KIND OF CONCERNED THAT BASED ON THIS YOU KNOW I HEAR KIND OF LIMITED GROWTH THUS FAR WE'RE NOT ABLE FOR EXPANSION BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WILL NEED SOME OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS TO TRY TO GET THIS SHORED UP AND RIGHT NOW RELEASE NO COMMERCIAL IMPACT ON THIS AT ALL, IF I HEAR YOU CORRECT.

>> ABOUT PERHAPS LIKE PUBLIC PRIVATE OPPORTUNITIES?

>> ANY OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE EXPANSION OF THIS IN SERVICES SO PEOPLE CAN GET TO AND FROM WORK.

AND ALSO EXPANDSING THE SERVICE HOURS, AS WELL.

WE'LL HAVE A BUSY WEEKENDS AND AS THESE ORGANIZES COME ON BOARD I SEE YOU KNOW SATURDAY, SUNDAY OPPORTUNITIES HERE AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THAT.

>> WELL, I WILL SAY THAT WHAT THE A.R.T. AREA

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REGIONAL TRANSIT DOES IS THEY HAVE A TENURE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR OR HEARD THAT TERM BEFORE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED OF TRANSIT AGENCIES IN FLORIDA TO RECEIVE STATE FUNDING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE ANYWAY AS IT'S A VISION FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. IN THAT VISION YOU SHOULD LOOK AT WHERE SERVICES NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED AND IT INCLUDES SOME NEW ROUTES AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES WITH THOSE INNOVATIVE TRANSIT SERVICES. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES AN ASSESSMENT OF POTENTIAL NEW FUNDING SOURCES.

NOW, THE COUNTY HASN'T GOTTEN VERY FAR WITH LOOKING AT NEW FUNDING SOURCES. THEY'RE LATE ON THE TABLE.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST STEP TO MAINTAIN THIS GOING FORWARD AND THEN LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN ADD-ON TOP OF IT. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND SOME OF THE PRIVATE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT PRESENT WITH NEW BIG EMPLOYERS.

>> THE GOOD THING OBVIOUSLY IS THAT THE HOUSING MARK IS GROWING AND THERE ARE MORE ASSESSING TO ASSESS VALUE.

THAT OVERALL COUNTY PART OF THAT THEN HOW YOU PARSE IT OUT. I WAS ALSO A COMMISSIONER THAT BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERNS CONCERNING THE SHELTERS AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL LOOK AT REEVALUATE THAT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN CHALLENGING TO GET BASED ON WHERE THE SHELTERS ARE AND THE STOPS AND TO GET A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE THERE.

BUT I HAVE A GREAT CONCERN WITH THAT GOING FORWARD THAT SOME OF OUR ESTABLISHED PLACES RIGHT NOW THAT SERVICE THESE LINES THERE ARE PEOPLE STANDING IN THE ELEMENTS AND THAT'S OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME.

I HOPE WE'LL IN THIS LOOK AT THOSE REEVALUATE THEM AND MAYBE TRY TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS OF PROVIDING SOME TYPE OF SHELTER. I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU'RE LIMITED BASED ON SIGHT LINE I GET THAT.

BUT TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE LITERALLY STANDING BY A STANDING POLE IN THE ROAD OR SOMETHING -- RAIN AND THE

SUN. >> RAIN AND THE SUN, I THINK WE CAN DO A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT.

NOT SNOW BUT THAT SUN IS HOT.

>> SUN IS HOT. THE RAIN IS COMING.

THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE FUNDING TO MAKE

IT HAPPEN. >> OKAY.

AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. >> YES.

>> AND, OUR SOCIETY FOR 100 YEARS HAS BEEN CARCENTRIC SO THE WHOLE TRANSIT THING IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT 100 YEARS FROM NOW, RIGHT.

SO, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD THAT.

BUT, ST. LUCIE COUNTY ISN'T QUITE THERE YET.

EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR CAR. BUT, ALSO, AS PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF EMPLOYMENT OR WORK FROM HOME THE WHOLE SOCIETY MAY BE CHANGING.

SO, TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSIT HAS TO CHANGE ALONG WITH IT. SO IS IT FAIR FOR -- FARE

FREE RIGHT NOW? >> YES.

>> NOBODY PAYS ANYTHING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY. MORE AND MORE SYSTEMS ARE CONSIDERING THAT. IT OFTEN COSTS MORE TO COLLECT FARES THAN THE FARES THEMSELVES.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. >> PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT.

I KNOW YOU PROMOTE IT ALL THE TIME.

I WAS REMEMBERING AT ONE TIME IT WAS FARE FREE FOR STUDENTS IF THEY SHOWED A LIBRARY CARD.

THERE WAS SOME DIFFERENCE. BUT IT'S NOW FOR EVERYBODY?

>> CURRENTLY. AS LONG AS THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE SERVICE WITH THE CURRENT RESOURCES WITHOUT THAT, THAT'S THE GOAL AT THIS POINT.

>> THAT'S A GOOD SERVICE. GOOD SERVICE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.

HAVE YOU ANYBODY ELSE IN YOUR TEAM WHO NEEDS TO SPEAK? ARE YOU DONE? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND ALL OF AND YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

WE APPRECIATE IT. >> RIGHT NEXT IDEA ON THE

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AGENDA IS CONSENT AGENDA. >> ANY IDEA THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.

MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

PROBABLY FOR THE CITY DEPARTMENT SO I WILL READ

[a. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for a Site Plan (Development Review and Design Review) submitted by Property Owner, RV Development LLC, and Representative, Engineering, Design, & Construction Inc, to construct and operate an RV sales and service development at or near 2398 Peters Road in Fort Pierce, FL. The properties are zoned General Commercial Zone (C-3). Parcel IDs: 2324-123-0000-000-9 & 2324-122-0001-000-3]

THE ITEMS. >> THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER R.V. DEVELOPMENT L.L.C. AND REPRESENTATIVE ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION INC.

TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE AN R.V. SALES AND SERVICE DEVELOPMENT AT OR NEAR 2398 PETERS ROAD IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED

GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-3. >> THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL

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READ KIND OF THE GUIDELINES FOR IT.

IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ANOTHER ITEM PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO HER BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY GOING TO READ IT ONCE.

>> THANK YOU. MISS EARLY.

>> CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH A LEGISLATIVE ANDDICIAL RO.

WHEN ACTING AS LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAW MAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION APPLIES THOSE LAWS AND POLICIES IS HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURES.

QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING.

THEY MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THEREFORE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE MEETINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN -- THEY WILL FOLLOW THAT THIS EVENING.

FINALLY NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION THE CITY FOR THE -- DURING THE HEARING.

IF DOCUMENTS PLEASE GIVE THEM TO ONE OF THE SERGEANT AT ARMS WHICH ARE EITHER OF THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS IN

THE CHAMBER. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>>> MADAM CLERK HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENT THOOS WE HAVE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEMS. WOULD YOU ASK THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, PLEASE.

>> SURE. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON

EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NO,

MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. NOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITHINS. WOULD ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO WE HAVE FOUR MINUTES UNTIL WE MUST START THE OTHER MEETING.

SO I GUESS YOU CAN GET STARTED AND MISS COX YOU

WILL LET US KNOW. >> YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHTY. >>> I WILL WAIT FOR THIS TO PULL UP ON THE SCREEN FIRST. GOOD EVENING I WILL BEGIN.

BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2398 WITH THE ZONING OF C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE REQUEST IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN WHICH WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE AT 39,200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR THE RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE OF R.V.S AND GOLF CARTS WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125, 313 AND 125314 OF THE CITY CODE AND THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> AS NOTED ON THERE IS A 39,200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. DIVIDED OF OFFICE AND SALES PACE. 16 SQUARE FEET OF SERVICE BAYS AND 4,000 SQUARE FEET FOR A BODY SHOP.

THE TOTAL PARKING FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS 498 TOTAL VEHICLE SPACES THAT WILL INCORPORATE BOTH INVENTORY AND CUSTOMER PARKING ALONG WITH GOLF CART PARKING AS WELL. 261 TREES WILL BE PLANTED ALONG WITH 1,783 SHRUBS. THIS IS A RENDERING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT'S SIMILAR IN NATURE TO WHAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE ROAD FOR GANDER R.V.

VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OVER THE REQUEST THAT'S PRESENTED. SHALL BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE SITE. THREE THE PLANTING SHALL BE PROVIDED ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SURROUNDING THE LAKE AREA. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSION ARE TO RECOMMEND TO APPROVE RATHER ESTABLISHED SUBJECT TO THREE CONDITIONS OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE I CALL YOU UP WE'RE ALMOST UP TO OUR NEXT MEETING.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON FOR THE RECORD HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[LAUGHTER] >> THAT WAS BRAD CURRY FOR

THE RECORD. >> WE ARE AT 5:05.

>> IT'S 5:05. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY

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COMMISSION. >> WE NEED TO RECESS YOUR

EXISTING MEETING. >> ALL RIGHTY.

SO IITEMS ON THIS AGENDA SHALL WE ADJOURN.

>> NOW WE WILL RECONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COMMISSION WHICH IS CONTINUED ON MONDAY

SEPTEMBER 20TH. >> THE OTHER PIECE OF PAPER.

>> WE'RE GETTING THERE. OKAY.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF. QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

SO THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN UP HERE AND SAID HE WOULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? HE'S HOARSE FROM THE WEEKEND. I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT FOOTBALL GAME IT WAS BUT HE'S HOARSE.

HE'S GOING TO TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. AND ENTERTAIN A DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for a Conditional Use with New Construction and a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) submitted by Property Owner, Patricia Farley, and Representative, Engineering, Design, & Construction Inc, to construct and operate a development that will contain office/flex space and RV storage at 2564 S. Kings Highway in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned General Commercial Zone (C-3). Parcel ID: 2324-233-0000-000-7]

>>> THE NEXT ITEM IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE P.M. FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION AND A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNERS PATRICIA FARLEY AND REPRESENTATIVE ENGINEERING DESIGNING CONSTRUCTION INK TO DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL CONTAIN OFFICE FLEX SPACE AND R.V. STORAGE AT 2564 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY IN FORT POLICE OFFICERS, FLORIDA, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED

GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-3. >> HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN

MET FOR THIS ITEM. >> THE ADVERTISING FOR THIS

ITEM HAS BEEN MET. >> YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS FOR

EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PIRANHA.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> NO, MA'AM.

CAN YOU SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.

DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND THE NOTHING

BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PROCEED. >> MADAM MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS CONTINUAL USE THAT ALSO ENCOMPASSES A SITE PLAN FOR 2564 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY. A C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE REQUEST IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT TWO BUILDINGS TOTALLING 88,432 AND ONE BUILDING FOR R.V. STORAGE WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125, 237, 125313 AND 125314 OF THE CITY CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON AUGUST 9TH VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED.

>> SO AS NOTED THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 44,374 SQUARE FEET EACH.

THESE TWO BUILDINGS WILL BE FOR OFFICE AND FLEX USES.

THERE WILL BE A THIRD BUILDING THAT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 33,190 SQUARE FEET THAT WILL OFFER 23 SPACES FOR THE STORAGE OF R.V. UNITS.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL PROVIDE FOR 141 TREES, 61 NEW SABLE PALMS WILL ALSO BE PLANTED ON THE SITE AND 1,990 SHRUBS WILL BE PLANTED AS WELL.

SO IT'S JUST A RENDERING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE ELEVATION WILL LOOK LIKE. PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON AUGUST 9TH, VOTED 7-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OVER THE -- 12 LETTERS WERE SENT OUT WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2021 AS OF THIS LATE NO LETTERS HAVE BEEN RETURNED FOR OR AGAINST. I HAVE ALSO RECEIVED NO E-MAILS OR CALLS REGARDING THIS PROJECT EITHER.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING THREE CONDITIONS. ONE THE TREE MITIGATION FEE IS OUTLINED THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHALL BE PAID. TWO LANDSCAPE SHALL BE PROVIDED PURSUANT TO CITY CODE 123-6 PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE FIRST FINAL OCCUPANCY.

AND THREE IT SHALL BE PROVIDED WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE AREAS TO ENHANCE THE SECURITY AND VISIBILITY OF THIS SITE IT SHALL BE ADDED AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSION ARE TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO STAFF'S THREE CONDITIONS AS PLANNING BOARD ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

YOU CAN APPROVE WITH CHANGES OR ALTERNATE CONDITIONS OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> YES, SIR. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEVATION.

WHICH WAY DOES THAT FACE? THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE

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MIDDLE UNITS THEY WILL AUTOMATIC BE UNIFORM AND

LIKE THIS, YES. >> VERY GOOD.

YOU SAID ALL STAFF AND DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED THIS INCLUDING SOLID WASTE. I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN THE CONFIGURATION OF THE DUMPSTERS. THAT'S A LOT OF BACKING MOVEMENTS BY OUR FOLKS. IS THAT GOING TO BE CITY

TRANSFER SERVICES. >> IT WILL BE, YES.

>> THEY HAVE TO PULL IN MAYBE BACK UP THEN HEAD IN THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF MOVEMENT THERE IS THERE NO WAY TO DO AN ANGLE DUMP SISTER CONFIGURATION OR MAYBE MOVE IT TO THE FRONT BY LIFT STATION.

>> PUBLIC WORKS WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THEM BUT THEY WILL ALSO BE APPROVING THE DUMPSTER AND BUILDING PERMIT AS WELL. IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THAT DO ARISE THEY'LL BRING IT UP AT BUILDING PERMIT STAGE AS

WELL. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

>> NOW TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE

APPLICANT. >> THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL?

>> PARDON ME. >> THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.

>> YES. I DID FORGET THAT STEP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN FOR THE RECORD BRAD CURRY WITH EDC I HAVE BEEN SWORN INCH I HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I THINK STAFF DID AN EXCELLENT JOB NOT TO PUT BRENDAN ON THE SPOT.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH OF A JOY IT HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH HIM OVER THEIAERS AND SORRY TO SEE HIM GO.

>> THANK YOU, BRAD. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MADAM MAYOR I PROVE THAT WE APPROVE WITH STAFF

RECOMMENDATIONS. >> SECOND.

THAT'S MOTION IN THE SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER J.

JOHNSON. MAYOR HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT IDEA IS

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Application for a Site Plan (Development Review and Design Review) submitted by Property Owners, Kings Hwy Commerce Park LLC, Australian Properties LLC, Kings Highway Commercial South LLC, RV Development LLC, Great American RV Prop LLC, and Grady Sapp, along with Representative, JHI Inc, to construct and operate a warehouse, office, and flex space development at or near 2496 S. Kings Highway in Fort Pierce, FL. The properties are zoned Commercial Parkway Zone (CP-1). Parcel IDs: 2324-210-0000-000-6, 2324-211-0002-000-3, 2324-232-0000-000-4, 2324-211-0001-000-6, 2324-214-0001-000-5, 2324-214-0002-000-2, 2324-241-0004-000-0, 2324-241-0002-000-6, and 2324-241-0003-000-3]

QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE AM FOR A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW, SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER KINGS HIGHWAY COMMERCE PARK L.L.C., AUSTRALIAN PROPERTIES LLC, KINGS HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL SOUTH LLC, RV DEVELOPMENT LLC, GREAT AMERICAN RV PROP, LLC, AND GRADY SAPP ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE J.H.I.

INC. TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE A WAREHOUSE, OFFICE AND FLEX SPACE DEVELOPMENT AT OR NEAR 2496 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY IN FORT POLICE OFFICERS, FLORIDA THE PROPERTIES ARE DISOWNED COMMERCIAL PARKWAY ZONE

CP-1. >> ALL RIGHTY.

HAVE THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET?

>> ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEM HAVE BEEN MET.

>> WOULD YOU ASK THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS. >> YES.

COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON. >> NO, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >> NO, MA'AM, I DON'T

BELIEVE SO. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO. MA'AM.

>> WOULD YOU SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH

AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR NINE PROPERTIES AT 2496 SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY.

THESE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY HAVE A GC GENERAL FUTURE COMMERCIAL LAND USE. THE REQUEST IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN WHICH WILL BE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW TO CONCONSTRUCT TWO BUILDINGS TOTALLING 485,000 WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125313 AND 125314 OF THE CITY CODE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT SAFETY. PLANNING BOARD VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PRESENT AS REQUESTED.

AS NOTED THE SITE PLAN AFFORDS FOR TWO DIFFERENT WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS THEY WILL BE BUILDING A WHICH WILL BE PART OF PHASE 1. IT WILL BE 265,000 SQUARE FEET, AND BUILDING B WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 220,000 SQUARE FEET. THERE IS ALSO A PORTION SET ASIDE FOR A FUTURE PHASE THAT WILL OFFER APPROXIMATELY 1.4 MILLION ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET.

THREE LAKES ARE BEING PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPE PACKAGE IS BEING PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO BE CONDUCTING A RECONSTRUCTION OF WHITE ROAD. THEY'VE COORDINATED WITH D.O.T. TO WHITE ROAD TO REACH ROAD.

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THEY WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND COORDINATION WITH D.O.T. ON THE INTERSECTION OF WHITE ROAD. THERE WILL ALSO BE IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO PETERS ROAD AS WELL.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE UPON COMPLETION. PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2021 VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THEIR REQUEST AS PRESENTED.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

ONE A LANDSCAPE BOND SHALL BE PROVIDED PURSUANT TO CITY CODE 123-6 PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE FOR THE SITE.

AND TWO, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A SITE WORK PERMIT ALL PROPERTIES COMBINED WITHIN THE SUBJECT DEVELOPMENT WILL NEED TO BE COMBINED THROUGH A PERSONAL COMBINATION WITH THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY APPRAISERS OFFICE AND A UNITY OF TITLE. APPROVE SUBJECT TO STAFF'S TWO CONDITIONS AND PLANNING BOARD ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. YOU CAN APPROVE WHAT CHANGES OR ALTERNATE CONDITIONS OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE.

I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND TELL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. JHI CONSULTING ENGINEERS.

WE HAVE NO QUESTION FOR STAFF.

BE GLAD. >> AND YOU WERE SWORN IN,

TOO. >> I SAW YOU.

HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S EXCITE SCMOOG ONE QUICK QUESTION. SO HAVE YOU A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH A BIG FOOTPRINT WHAT KIND OF GREEN TECHNOLOGY SOLAR TECHNOLOGY, L.E.D. TECHNOLOGY ANYTHING ENERGY EFFICIENTWISE THAT YOU BUILD INTO YOUR PROJECTS

LIKE THIS. >> THAT WILL BE DONE WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN AND I'M SURE THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE WE DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. THEY USUALLY DO THAT FOR THE

LARGER BUILDINGS. >> NO QUESTIONS.

JUST A GENERAL COMMENT. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THINGS ARE REALLY GROWING OUT THERE ON KINGS HIGHWAY.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY PLACE.

THE JOBS UNITS MAKING WAREHOUSE.

>> DISTRIBUTION. ABOUT A THOUSAND TO 2,000

WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> SO, LARGELY THERE WILL BE CLIENTS THAT YOU WOULD, IF A BIG BOX STORE WANTED TO BE WITH DISTRIBUTION YOU WOULD LEASE OUT SPACE FOR THEM THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WOULD WORK.

>> EXACTLY. THE LOCATION IS EXCELLENT TURNPIKE WITH KINGS HIGHWAY. AND WE HAVE DESIGNED IT FOR ACCESS FOR LARGE TRUCKS. WE ALSO PUT AMENITY FOR EMPLOYEES IF YOU SEE WE HAVE GAZEBOS AND BENCHES WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

>> JUST CURIOUS A SITE LIKE THIS WILL THEY HAVE THEIR OWN COMMISSARY AND OWN FOOD DO YOU KNOW?

>> FOOD FOR WORK STAFF EMPLOYEES.

>> AGAIN THAT WOULD BE INTERNAL.

I'M NOT AWARE OF IT BUT I IMAGINE THEY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING WITH THE LARGE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF SPACE. JUST MAKE SURE I SEE

FOUNTAIN AND WATER FEATURES. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

BECAUSE HAVE YOU FRONTAGE ON THE MAIN CORRIDOR.

>> THAT WAS REQUIRED BY STAFF PLUS, IT MAKES IT ATTRACTIVE. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

>> MADAM MAYOR I MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH STAFF CONDITIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND THE SECONDFUL CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for Subdivision (Preliminary Plat), submitted by property owner, Surfside Land, LLC & applicant/representative Schulke, Bittle, & Stoddard, LLC, to subdivide approximately 0.54 acres of land at or near the east side of Surfside Drive, located approximately 200 feet east of South Ocean Drive in Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned Hutchinson Island Medium Density Residential (R-4A). Parcel ID: 2412-501-0132-000-3.]

JUDICIAL HEARING APPROVAL AND REVIEW FOR APPLICATION SUBDIVISION SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER SURFSIDE LAND LLC AND SCHULKE, BITTLE AND, IS IT OTDDARD.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED HUTCHINSON ISLAND MEDIUM DESTINY RESIDENTIAL R-4A. HAVE THE ADVERTISING

REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET. >> YES THEY HAVE BEEN MET.

>> WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> WOULD YOU SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE

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TRUTH. >> YES.

>> PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU.

>> FOR YOU TONIGHT WE HAVE A SUBDIVISION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT IT'S APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE AND SURFSIDE DRIVE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS H.I.R. HUTCHINSON ISLAND RESIDENTIAL WITH ZONING OF R R-4A.

REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE CREATION OF FOUR LOTS ALONG WITH A COMMON AREA LOT FOR THE DUNE CROSS AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 221 OF THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR MEETING.

ON SEPTEMBER 13TH VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. ON SCREEN THERE'S A COPY OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE FOUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS OR TRACKS THEY WILL BE DIVIDED BETWEEN LOTS 1A AND 1B SO THAT WILL MAKE ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT EACH. THEY'RE DIVIDED WITH A COMMON AREA TRACK THAT WILL INCOMPAS THE COMMON AREA LANDSCAPING AND THE DUNE CROSSOVER.

PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 13ING VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSION ARE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY FLAT WITH STAFF'S ONE CONDITION -- PLAT WITH STAFF'S ONE CONDITION SHALL BE OBTAINED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE BUILDING FINAL CERTIFICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. I WANT TO NOTE AT THE PLANNING BOARD STAGE STAFF HAD THE CONDITION WORDED BEFORE THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT BUT AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ENGINEER IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT IT WOULD CHANGED FOR THIS WORDING TO COINCIDE WITH HOW WE DO FINAL PLATTS. THEN THE PLANNING BOARD YOU COULD APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLATT WITH CHANGES OR ALTERNATE CHANGES OR DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLATT. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION.

I NOTICE A LETTER FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY IN THE PACK THEY ARE THE. ANY STAFF COMMENTS WITH THAT REGARDING THAT? IS THERE ANY ISSUES FROM

YOUR PERSPECTIVE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

IT'S OUTSIDE THAT BEACH PROTECTION AREA THAT THEY HAVE BUT THEY ALWAYS JUST INCLUDE IT AS AN F.Y.I.

>> EC , THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I'M THINKING I BELIEVE THE OWNERS ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PROJECT SHOWED UP AT A SURFSIDE PICNIC ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO.

I WAS THERE, AND THEY GOT INTRODUCED TO ME BUT THAT REALLY WASN'T EX PARTE. THEY JUST TOLD ME WHAT WAS GOING ON. NO, MA'AM.

>> ALL RIGHTY. THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF

STAFF? >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. DO YOU HAVE ANY PRESENTATION OR WOULD YOU LIKE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK YOU

QUESTIONS? >> I WILL JUST MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOR THE RECORD THAT WAS MR. , IS IT ODDARD AND YOU WERE -- STODDARD AND YOU WERE SWORN IN, I SAW THAT.

WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> FIRST BEFORE DO YOU I DID VISIT THE SITE I JUST HAPPENED TO BE RUNNING BY THINK THE MORNING AND LOOKED AT IT.

I THINK IT'S A PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS OPERATION GOING ON.

I WOULD SAY IF THE OWNERS ARE OUT THERE THEY NEED TO ADHERE TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE SIGN THAT'S PLANTED IN THE MIDDLE THERE THE GRASS HAS GROWN UP PRETTY HIGH CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ON THE SCENT RIGHT NOW.

MAKE SURE THEY FAIR WARNING IF THEY'RE OUT ON THE BEACH RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY IS GETTING THESE THINGS.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOT. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX IT'S LIKE ON THE FIRST GOOSE NECK OF SURFSIDE.

PRETTY MUCH A LOW IMPACT TRAFFIC AREA AND IT ABUTTS RIGHT UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOME GREAT PEOPLE

LIVING IN IT, BY THE WAY. >> I KNOW A FEW.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

THERE WERE SEVERAL HOUSES ALONG THAT LITTLE STRETCH RIGHT THERE THAT I THINK SUCCUMB TO FRANCIS AND GENE BACK IN THE DAY THAT NEVER GOT REBUILT.

>> OKAY. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> I WOULD.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

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>>> ROLL CALL]

>> GREAT CONGRATULATIONS. MORE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S GREAT. GREAT.

[e. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-032 establishing Mayor and Commission compensation by ordinance, and clarifying the method of changing compensation in the future. SECOND READING]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 21-032 AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AMENDING CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 2 DIVISION 1 COMPENSATION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ESTABLISHING THE COMPENSATION DUE TO MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS AND CLARIFYING THE METHOD OF CHANGING COMPENSATION PROVIDING FOR REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING. >> THIS IS SECOND READING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 21.

>> SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND THE SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-033 amending Chapter 2, Sec. 2-49 to modify the order of business of City Commission Meetings and amending Sec. 2-48 to address remote participation by City Commissioners at their meetings. SECOND READING]

21-033. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE PROVISIONS OF THE FORT PIERCE CODE OF ORDINANCES CAPPER THIS 2 DIVISION 2 MEETINGS SECTION 2-48 ABSENCES RELATING TO REMOTE PARTICIPATION AND SECTION 2-49 PROCEDURE GENERALLY REELING TO ORDER OF BUSINESS PROVIDING FOR SEVRABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-034 - extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, to a property at or near 1701 Woodward Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

AND ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL TO INCLUDE A PARCEL AT OR NEAR WOODWARD DRIVE SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE CITY TAX ROLLS DIRECTING THE AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE HUDSON.

[h. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-035 Establishing the Preserve at Savannah Lakes Community Development District. FIRST READING]

NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE NAMING THE DISTRICT DESCRIBING THE EXTERNAL BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE FIRST READING. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

YES, MADAM MAYORAL I WILL GO AHEAD.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE HOWEVER, UNLIKE MOST ORDINANCES IT'S NOT STAFF GENERATED AND NOT STAFF RECOMMENDED. IT INSTEAD COMES TO YOU BY WAY OF A PETITION FILED PURR SURNT TO CHAPTER 190 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

SO THAT SAID, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PETITIONER WHO IS PRESENT AND INSTEAD OF STAFF MAKING THAT PRESENTATION I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO MR. WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION.

>> ALL RIGHTY PLEASE COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND GIVE US

YOUR PRESENTATION. >> SURE, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AVAILABLE AND HOW TO DIRECT THAT.

I CAN GET IT. OKAY, GREAT.

IT'S ON THE R-DRIVE LINDA. THANK YOU.

>> IT HAS TODAY'S DATE. I PUT IT ON THERE, TOO.

I CAN GET STARTED WHILE THEY'RE GETTING THE PRESENTATION UP AND RUNNING TO SAVE YOU ALL SOME TIME.

I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A COUPLE C.D.S IN YOUR CITY

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THERE'S MORE IN THE COUNTY. SO YOU ARE SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THEM BUT I WILL PUT SOME OF THIS ON THE RECORD.

WE ARE HERE OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU WILL ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS YOU KNOW WHEN A DEVELOP PROVINCE OR THEY CAN COME TO YOU ALL AND HAVE A COMMUNITY DISTRICT INSTALLED TO DO THAT FOR THE PROJECT.

SO IN OUR PRESERVE THOSE PROJECT APPROVALS WILL BE.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING A LOT WITH STAFF.

THOSE APPROVALS WE BELIEVE ARE GOING VERY WELL.

BUT THE CITY IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF GETTING THOSE APPROVALS IN PLACE AND ALSO HOW OUR CLIENT USED THE PROJECT. SO THE FIRST STEP IN OUR MIND IS TO SET THE C.D.C. UP AND RUNNING FIRST THEN GET THE PROJECT APPROVALS AFTER THAT.

SO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PROJECT IS.

I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IT'S OVER NEAR EDWARDS ROAD AND MIDWAY ROAD. IT'S REALLY A NICE LITTLE PROJECT WE THINK IT WILL REVITALIZE THAT AREA.

IT'S ON APPROXIMATELY 120 ACRES.

IT WILL BE COMPROMISED OF TOWN HOMES AND UNITS.

AND THE WAY THAT CULTURE IS APPROACHING THE PROJECT HAS A LOT OF NICE BENEFITS SO THEY WILL KEEP ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PROJECT AS NATURAL PRESERVES AS I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THOSE PRESERVES HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG LONG TIME WE HAVE A NATURAL TRAIL SYSTEM.

THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED AS WELL AS AMENITIES AND THINGS FOR FAMILIES. SO IT'S A REALLY NICE PROJECT. THERE'S SOME MORE BULLET POINTS IN IN TERMS OF THE BENEFITS I SORT OF DID.

THERE ARE FINANCIAL BENEFITS AND THERE ARE DEFAULT PROTECTION BENEFITS THEN ALSO WHAT I CONSIDER ANCILLARY BENEFITS. WHEN YOU HAVE A C.D.C. AS OPPOSED TO USING THE FRONT ENDING ALL THOSE COSTS INTO THE HOME PRICES. THE C.D. MONEY GOES FURTHER BECAUSE THE C.D. AND THE WAY IT WORK IS THE C.D. GOES OUT ONCE YOU ALL ESTABLISH A C.D. THE DEVELOPER SITTING ON THAT BOARD WILL GO OUT AND HAVE THE C.D. ISSUE TAXES AND BONDS THAT THE RATES ARE REALLY GOOD.

I THINK THEY'RE LIKE 3.4 RIGHT NOW.

ONCE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE FINISHED THEY ARE MAINTAINED ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS. TO REPAY THE DEBT THAT IS USED TO BY THEY PUT IN AN ASSESSMENT JUST ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE C.D.

SO IT'S GROWTH ESSENTIALLY PAYING FOR ITSELF.

AND THE ADVANTAGE OF THE C.D. IS THAT THE RATES ARE REALLY GOOD BECAUSE THEY'RE TAXED AND BOND AND ALSO SPREAD OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD.

SO THE MONEY JUST GOES FURTHER.

YOU WILL END UP WITH BETTER LANDSCAPING AND BETTER AMENITIES WHAT NOT MORE COMPETITIVE HOUSE PRICING.

NOT JUST ON THE FRONT ENDS BUT ALSO WHEN THE RESIDENTS TAKE OVER THEY WILL TAKE OVER THE C.D. D.S BOARD WHEN THEY COME BACK AND REFURBISH THE ROADS AND PONDS THEY WILL HAVE MAYBE THEY WANT TONE HANS THEIR AMENITIES 10 YEARS FROM NOW THEY CAN ACCESS THAT SAME BOND MARKET AND GET THOSE SAME RATES AND SPREAD THE COSTS OVER TIME IT SAVES THEM MONEY. THERE'S A FINANCIAL BENEFIT AS PART ONE. SECOND SET OF BENEFITS IS DEFAULT PROTECTION. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE A RECESSION AREA ENVIRONMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT GO BELLY UP THEY CAN GO BELLY UP WHETHER YOU HAVE A C.D. OR NOT A C.D. BUT THE CHANCES OF IT WITH A C.D. ARE LESS BECAUSE THE ECONOMICS ARE BETTER. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS. BUT ALSO IF YOU DO GET INTO FALSE SCENARIO THE C.D.S MONEY IS HELD IN A TRUST ESTATE WITH A NATIONAL CERTIFIED TRUSTEE BANK LIKE U.S. BANK OR REGENTS BANK SO THE ONLY WAY THAT MONEY CAN BE SO THAT MONEY IS THERE. IT CAN ONLY BE USED THEY CAN USE IT TO KEEP THE PROJECT GOING.

THEY CAN USE THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THE FORECLOSURE COST.

THIRD SET OF BENEFITS RESIDENTS ARE REALLY

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STARTING TOO LEARN ABOUT THEM AND REALLY LIKE THEM AS THEIR AS COMPARED TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

IN FACT IF YOU GO TO MARION COUNTY MOST PROJECT HAVE TO HAVE A HAVE TO HAVE AND THE REASON IS IS SO IMPORTANT EXPLAINING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO AND FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET FEMA FUNDING C.D.S WERE ABLE TO GET SIX SOMETIME SEVEN AMOUNTS OUT OF FEMA WHEN PEOPLE ARE BUYING HOMES IT'S NOT PERFECT, RIGHTS. FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS BUN THAT NEEDS TO BE FINANCED AND WHAT NOT.

THERE'S YOUR COST COST TABLE WITH THE THEY WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT TO IT NEEDS TO COME BACK AND GET THOSE SAME PERMITS AND EVERYTHING THAT THE IT WILL BE NEVER BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ON BALANCE THAT SATISFIES EACH OF THE SIX CRITERIA FOR ESTABLISHING A C.D. IT SO SHOWS THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USES.

WITH THAT SAID WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE NOW EMPTY LANDS.

DINGS ON DRIVE THE ACCESS POINT.

PUSH THE BUTTON. >>.

>> DENNIS MURPHY. WE ARE THE ENGINEERS FOR THIS EVENT WHAT WE HAVE IS A 600 PLUS UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

DIXON IS IN THE MIX IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE PRIMARY AT THE MOMENT. ADJUSTMENT AS WE SPEAK.

THE MARKET IS ONLY ON THE WESTSIDE.

DOES MARKET GO TO THE EAST SIDE.

MARKET WILL RUN FROM U.S. 1 TO OUR PROPERTY LINE AT THE STREET. SOUTH END OF THE SITE.

FROM SOUTH MARKET NOT FARMERS MARKET.

OKAY. RIGHT.

MADAM MAYOR THAT WAS MY QUESTION, TOO.

DO YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY IDENTIFY YOUR MEANS OF ACCESS. I NOTICE A GRAPHIC THAT DID SHOW PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. WE HAVE SOME GENERAL GRAPHICS THAT ARE IN THE APPLICATION AND SOME GENERAL LOCATION MAPS SOME GENERAL IDENTIFICATIONS OF WHERE EVERYTHING IS. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY, A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT'S HOW WE GENERATED THE BUT AS

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WE CONTINUE THROUGH THE AGAIN THESE ARE SEPARATE TRACKS. WE HAVE THE ONE THAT IS ENABLING THE PROPERTY TO WE HAVE THE APPLICATION FOR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROJECT MINISTER THEN IT'S WORKING THROUGH PLANNING STAFF RIGHT NOW WE WILL BE BACK TO YOU ALL IN A COUPLE WEEKS OR COUPLE MEETING. LATER ON OUT THIS YEAR.

HOW TO BRING UTILITIES IN. OKAY.

AND LITERALLY I WILL CALL THE 25 THOUSAND FOOD LEVEL -- FOOT LEVEL AT THIS POINT. AS WE DRILL DEEPER THAT WILL COME DOWN TO THE FINAL PLANS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL BUT AGAIN THAT IS SOMEWHAT SEPARATE FROM THE ENABLING AUTHORITY THAT WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR

TONIGHT. >> IN JUST ADD I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EXPLANATION, DENNIS.

UNDER THE STATUTE WE JUST NEED TO ESTABLISH THE DISTRICTS BOUNDARY. IF THE ROADS MOVE AROUND AND ROAD ALIGNMENT CHANGES THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

I'M SURE IT WILL CHANGE BY THE TIME WE ISSUE BONDS AND WHAT NOT HE AND I DID MEET TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I HAD MY OTHER REASONS AT THAT TIME AND SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THIS PROJECT WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND CALLS DEVELOPMENTS HIGH POINT IS NAME OF ONE OF THEM.

SO WE GET FREQUENT CALLS AND PETITIONS THROUGH D.O.T. AND THROUGH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD IT'S TALKED ABOUT TODAY. I CAN ASSURE YOU YOUR STAFF HAS MADE US PAINFULLY AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF ASSURING SAFE INGRESS AND EGRESS OUT OF THIS JOB SITE.

>> GOOD JOB, STAFF. I WILL UNDERSTAND FOR THE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE GETTING THIS UP AND RUNNING THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REJUVENATING IT AND MOVING IT FORWARD IS THE C.D. GONE TO OWN.

THE UTILITY SYSTEMS I IMAGINE YOU WILL EARN REVENUE OFF THAT SO YOU WANT THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD BE TURNED OVER IN THE SAME PROCESS YOUALL WOULD ACCEPT FROM A PRIVATE DEVELOPER. SO THAT'S PART ONE.

THE IT'S A TAXING ISSUE. THERE ARE ASSESSMENTS IT GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT'S A DELAYED PROCESS FOR THAT. YES, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? WE DON'T HAVE A LOT. WE HAVE TO GO BACK OVER IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. SO IT'S KIND OF SELF-GOVERNING EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TO OBEY THE LAWS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE OBVIOUSLY. SO THE PLAN OWNER THAT OWNS

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THE MAJORITY OF ACREAGE WITH ELECT ALL FIVE OF THE SUPERVISORS ONTO THE BOARD JUST LIKE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT THE DEVELOPER CONTROLS IT USUALLY THE HOMEOWNER 90% BAILED OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE C.D. SEATS STAY IN LAND VOTER OWNER CONTROL THROUGH THE ELECTION PROCESS.

POLICE AUTHORITY AS YOU'RE THINKING OF IT.

THAT'S THE PART WHERE YOU MENTION EARLIER THESE A SPECIAL LEVY BY THE C.D. BUT THERE'S ALSO A LEVEE -- LEVY WE JUST LEVIED 6.9% SO THAT'S ON TOP OF WHAT WILL BE THERE. SO THAT MAY STACK THAT MAY BE 13,14 I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER THOSE PERCENT BUT IT'S IN ADDITION TO THAT, CORRECT? IT IS. IT'S ON MILLAGE BASE IT'S A SPECIAL. WE CALL IT MILLAGE YOU GUYS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. IT ALL ADDS UP IT NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR ENTITIES. YOU NEED IT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED IT TO BRING IN THE SERVICES THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THEY EXPECT GARBAGE, POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT TOO, IN TERMS OF DISCLOSURE.

YOU HAVE TO DO THAT WHEN A PERSON PURCHASES A PARCEL THEY ARE FULLY MADE AWARE AT THAT POINT THAT THIS IS THE CITY OF TRANSPARENCY. IT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE WHAT IS THE CITY'S ROLE IN THAT? THE CITY HAS BASICALLY NO ROLE IN THAT AT ALL. WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE GREAT RESEG THE BONDHOLDERS AND THE TRUSTEE OF THOSE BONDS PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THOSE PROJECTS AND ESSENTIALLY THEY GOT BACK INTO PRODUCTIVE USE MORE QUICKLY. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE TRUSTEE AND THE DISTRICT WOULD FORECLOSE ON A NONPERFORMING PARCEL AND GO THROUGH A FORECLOSURE PROCESS. THEY'RE FORECLOSED A LOT LIKE MORTGAGES. SO WITHIN A YEAR SO IT WILL BE BACK IN A PRODUCTIVE USE. THERE'S FEW THAT YOU KNOW LINGERED OBVIOUSLY THAT WERE HARD FOUGHT BUT MOST BY AND LARGE MOST OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THEY'RE FIRST LOOENCE THEY WENT THROUGH THE FORECLOSURE

VERY QUICKLY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I GUESS YOU'RE THE PETITIONER. AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANY OTHER PERSON IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE IF YOU HAVE NOTHING FURTHER WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO GENTLEMEN, MADAM MAYOR. I PROVE TO AMOVE ORDINANCE 21-035 ESTABLISHING THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

SECOND.

>> THIS WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU OKAY 18TH FOR THE SECOND

READING. >> OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

>> EXCITING MADAM MAYOR. MORE DEVELOPMENT.

MORE DEVELOPMENT. >> EAST AND WEST.

>> EAST AND WEST. >>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION

[a. Resolution No. 21-R51 determining that the structure located at 435 N 16th Street is unsafe, has been condemned in accordance with the International Property Maintenance Code as adopted by the City Commission and should be demolished. A hearing to determine this matter is scheduled before the City Commission on October 18, 2021.]

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21-051 DETERMINING LOCATE 435 NORTH 16TH STREET IN STREET IS UNSAFE HAS BEEN ALL PARTIES OF INTEREST MUST SHOW CAUSE WHY THE STRUCTURE SHOULD NOT BE DEMOLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND NOTIFYING ALL PARTIES OF POTENTIAL ACTION BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR FAILURE TO ACT. AND THAT A PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE HELD AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 18, 2021, AT 4:30 P.M. AND THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 100 NORTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AND PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO ALL PARTIES.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE DISCUSSION?

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR MADAM MAYOR ON THIS.

SO I RODE BY THIS STRUCTURE AND TOOK A LOOK EARLIER TODAY. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEEMED UNSAFE SO OUR NEXT PROCESS IS TO OFFICIALLY TEAR IT DOWN.

>> NEXT PROCESS IS A HEARING TO DETERMINE.

>> HEARING, OKAY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> THE APPLICANT WILL BE NOTIFIED IF THEY DECIDE TO SHOW UP. OKAY, GOT IT.

OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID MADAM MAYOR I APPROVE FOR RESOLUTION.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER --

[b. Resolution No. 21-R52 appointing members to serve on the Fort Pierce Youth Advisory Committee.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-52 CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT AND MEMBERS TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I WILL PASS TO YOU A LIST OF ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE APPLIED. BASICALLY WE HAVE SEVEN SEATS AND SEVEN APPLICATIONS.

SO COMMISSIONER PERONA HAS REAPPOINTED HIS MEMBER GRACE, MAYOR HUDSON HAS SELECTED LILY CRAWFORD, SO WHAT I NEED FROM ALL OF YOU THE REMAINING TWO IS TO SELECT SOMEONE THAT YOU WANT TO BE YOUR APPOINTMENT AND THEN THE REMAINING TWO WILL BE, TWO WILL BE AT LARGE, AND ONE WILL FILL THE SEAT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY NEED BE APPOINTED BY THE FIFTH COMMISSIONER.

SORRY. >> SO -- SO YOU WANT THE TWO PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC APPOINTEE.

>> I DON'T NEED TO YOU VOTE I JUST COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH AND COMMISSIONER CURTIS JUST TELL ME WHO YOU WANT AS YOUR APPOINTEE. PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON. >> LASHANDA FRANKLIN.

>> LETA MOORE FOR ME. >> LETA MOOR MOORE.

>> OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO SELECT ONE THAT WOULD SERVE AS -- THE VACANT COMMISSION SEAT DO YOU WANT TO PICK ONE OF THOSE? RIGHT NOW THE TERMS ARE KIND OF WEIRD THEY HAVE ONE YEAR TERMS AND TWO YEAR TERMS. I THINK MAYBE WELL.

DISTRICT 1. >> I WAS GOING SAY MIA MORRISON FROM LINCOLN PARK WOULD BE A GREAT PICK FOR

THAT ONE. >> OKAY.

THE REMAINING TWO WILL BE AT LARGE.

>> THEN DO YOU NEED A MOTION.

I DO. >> MADAM MAYOR I MOVE TO

APPROVE AS SELECTED. >> SECOND.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL ROLL PLEASE. >> ROLL CALL]

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> IF THERE'S MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD.

HAVE YOU THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD, SIR. >> BRANDON CHRISTOPHER KRAGEN SEN YOUR PLANNER FORT CITY FORT PIERCE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS MY LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR YOU FINE FOLKS THIS EVENING.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO JUST EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO ALL OF YOU PEOPLE UP HERE AND YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A NICE FIVE YEAR RIDE FROM THE PERSON AND PLANNER THAT I WAS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE TO THE PERSON I AM NOW I WOULD LIKE TO FEEL LIKE I'VE GROWN A LOT AND YOU KNOW I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR PUSHING ME TO BE MY BEST AND YOU KNOW ALWAYS BE PREPARED FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT YOU'VE MADE ME A BETTER RUVER AND A BETTER PLANNER.

I WANT -- REVIEWER AND A BETTER PLANNER.

I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK THE CITY CLERK, CITY MANAGER

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AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS AS WELL. MOST IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS OF CITY OF THE FORT PIERCE IT'S BEEN AN HONOR PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS HAND IN HAND. I'M TRULY REALLY GOING TO MISS THAT. BUT YOU KNOW AS I ALWAYS SAY IT'S NEVER GOOD-BYE IT'S JUST GOOD-BYE FOR NOW.

SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU.

GREAT JOB. >> GREAT JOB.