[b. Approval of minutes from the September 7, 2021 Budget Meeting, the September 13, 2021 Special Meeting, the September 20, 2021 Special Meeting and the September 27, 2021 Special Meeting.]

SEPTEMBER 7TH, SEPTEMBER 13TH, SEPTEMBER 20, AND

SEPTEMBER 27TH. >> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

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>>> FOLLOWING LETTERS WILL BE KEPT ON FILE.

[a. Email from Will Harkness thanking Mike Reals, Public Works Director, and his staff for all of their daily work that has made South Beach beautiful and well maintained; and commending the following Parks Division employees for the outstanding job recently completed on Coconut Drive: JR Mead, Foreman II, Troy Hall, Chief Tree Trimmer, Delbert Brunson, Equipment Operator III, Jessie Bryant, Grounds Maintenance Specialist, Marcus Sanders, Grounds Maintenance Specialist and Bernard Williams, Grounds Maintenance Specialist.]

WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM WILL HARKNESS THANKING MIKE REALS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR HIS DAILY WORK THAT HAVE MADE SOUTH BEACH BEAUTIFUL. HE COMMENDED THE PARK PARK DIVISIONS EMPLOYEES J.R. MEADE, TROY HALL, JESSE BRYANT, MARCUS SANDERS, AND BERNARD WILLIAMS.

[b. Email from Peter Byrne commending Miriam Garcia and Latoya Ransom, Deputy City Clerks, for providing excellent service with the Short Term Rental Registration process.]

WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM PETER BRIAN COMMENDING GARCIA AND LATOYA RANSOM FOR PROVIDING EXCELLENT SERVICE

[c. Letter from Doretha Hair Truesdell, President, Original Florida Hall of Fame Highwaymen, Inc., expressing gratitude to the City Manager and Audria Moore-Wells, Special Projects Coordinator, for their efforts in securing the Jackie Caynon Building for the operation of the Highwaymen Museum and African American Cultural Center.]

WITH SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION PROCESS.

WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM DOROTHY PRESIDENT OF THE ORIGINAL FLORIDA HALL OF FAME HIGHWAYMEN EXPRESSING GRATITUDE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ANDREA MOORE-WELLS FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN SECURING THE JACKIE FOR THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN

[d. Letter from Mark Music CEO, MMPS Environmental, Inc., in appreciation of the support and service from the City of Fort Pierce that contributed to the success of The Annual Captain Don Voss Fort Pierce Inlet Cleanup Dive.]

CULTURAL CENTER. WE RECEIVED FROM MARK MUSIC C.E.O. OF M.M.P.S. IN APPRECIATES OF THE SUPPORT AND SERVICE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF THE FOR THE CAPTAIN DON VOSS FORT PIERCE.

[e. Transcription of a voice message from Michelle Mayhew expressing her gratitude to Jacolby Washington, Solid Waste Division Manager, for being a diligent worker and promptly responding to her requests.]

WE RECEIVED A VOICE MESSAGE FROM MAMAYHEW EXPRESSING HER GRATITUDE TO JACOBY WASHINGTON FOR BEING A

[f. Letter from Mark Music, President, MMPS Environmental, Inc. thanking Chief Hobley-Burney and the Fort Pierce Police Marina Unit for doing a great job at their first Fort Pierce Inlet Cleanup dive and also thanking Officer Roberto Sarmiento and Officer Brian Avilla who were on duty and did a fantastic job.]

DILIGENT WORKER AND PROMPTLY RESPONDING TO HER REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ANOTHER LETTER FROM MARK MUSIC PRESIDENT OF MMPS THANKING THE CHIEF AND THE MARINA UNITED FOR DOING A GREAT JOB AT ■THEIR FIRS FORT PIERCE CLEANUP DIVE.

ALSO THANKING OFFICER ROBERTO CEMENTO AND BRIAN PICCIONI WHO WERE ON DUTY AND DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

NEXT WE MOVE ONTO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA

AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA, IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>> ROLL CALL]

[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>> WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP.

HAVE YOU THREE MINUTES. WHEN YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND MISS COX WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING OF THREE SECONDS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS SUSAN PERRY.

>> GOOD EVENING. SUSAN PERRY WITH THE UNITED ANIMALS 2003 SOUTH INDIAN DRIVE.

I'M HERE REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA THE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THE $150,000 BUDGET THAT YOU'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THERE'S NOTHING, NO PACKET OR ATTACHMENT TELLING US WHAT THAT $150,000 REPRESENTS. WHAT SERVICES YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE FOR THAT $150,000, NOR HOW MANY ANIMALS YOU WANT US TO SERVICE FOR $150,000.

ALSO. I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS WAS PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I REALLY THINK IT WOULD BETTER SERVE THE ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ISSUE.

FIRST OF ALL IT WOULD RAISE AWARENESS OF THAT THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY'S ANIMAL SHELTER.

IT'S YOUR ANIMAL SHELTER. THOSE ARE OUR FORT PIERCE ANIMALS GOING TO THAT SHELTER.

AND IT WOULD HOPEFULLY INCREASE NAME RECOGNITION AND GREATER SUPPORT. SO YOU KNOW THROUGH UNITED FOR ANIMALS CONTACT AND SUPPORTERS DONATIONS OF APPROXIMATELY $1,000 A MONTH HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WE CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY PROMOTE ADOPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S OUR COMMUNITY'S ANIMAL SHELTER AND YOU HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

SO THE QUESTION IS REALLY WHAT SERVICES ARE YOU EXPECTING, WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU WANT THIS SHELTER TO GO FOR THE $150,000? OF COURSE, THE BIG QUESTION ON EVERYBODY'S MIND IS THIS GOING TO BE A NO KILL SHELTER? ON $150,000 I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT. I DON'T THINK THEY CAN DO THAT. SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND GET THE COMMUNITY IN HERE TO LET -- SO THE COMMUNITY CAN SPEAK AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER AND GARNER THEIR SUPPORT AS WELL AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY REALLY, REALLY WANT TO DO. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING TO

HEAR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DENNIS COURT. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR MY NAME IS DENNIS CORK. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF U.S.

REAL ESTATE ENTERPRISES OF FLORIDA LLC MONTH IS THE

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CONTRACT PROSECUTOR FOR THE -- CONTRACT PURCHASER FOR 13 B THAT'S A RESOLUTION TO GRANT A QUICK CLAIM DEED.

THIS IS THE FORMER A FORMER CITY OF FORT PIERCE LANDFILL THAT WAS DEEDED IN 1991 TO THE CURRENT OWNER MR. DEMARA. MY CLIENT IS UNDER CONTRACT WITH MR. DE-- DEMARA TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND THE RESERVATIONS AND RIGHTS THAT ARE IN THE DEED IN QUESTION.

THE 1991 VESTING DEED ARE EXCEPTIONS TO TITLE AND ARE THE OBSTACLE TO MY CLIENT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE. THIS IS PROPERTY'S ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY PROPERTY THAT CONSTITUTES THE AIRPORT.

MY CLIENT OWNS SOME PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY IS EITHER GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF AN AIRPORT RELATED DEVELOPMENT OR IT'S GOING TO BE TRADED WITH THE COUNTY FOR SOME OTHER PROPERTY FOR THE SAME SORT OF PURPOSE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THAT'S THE HIGH POINTS BEYOND THAT'S IN THE

MEMO. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS ISN'T A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>> ALL RIGHT.

[a. Economic Development Council of St. Lucie County 2021 Economic Progress Report]

THE NEXT ITEM IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY 2021 ECONOMIC PROGRESS REPORT.

>> MR. MIMMS. >> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION WE DO HAVE THE C.E.O. OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MR. PETE TESH THAT WILL GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL TO INCLUDE INITIATIVES WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS SPECIFIC INITIATIVES WITH

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. >> MR. TESH, WELCOME.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MR. CITY MANAGER MADAM CITY CLERK.

THANK YOU. I HOPE Y'ALL ARE HAVING A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

NICK WAS SAID 15 OR 50 MINUTES? [LAUGHTER] 1-5.

>> I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. NOTHING LIKE A POWER POINT PRESENTATION TO KICK THINGS OFF.

>> NOTHING HAPPENS IN GOVERNMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE A

POWER POINT. >> OR A PRESSURE POINT.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMITMENT INVESTMENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE EDC. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW, TALK ABOUT LOCAL ECONOMICS AND DEMOGRAPHICS RECENT PROJECTS IT HAS BEEN A THESE ARE COUNTY WIDE NUMBERS? AGE DISTRIBUTION AND THE MEDIAN AGE ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 68% OF OUR FAMILIES ARE IN HOUSEHOLDS WHICH NUMBER ABOUT 130,000.

HOUSEHOLD INCOME DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS A LITTLE OVER 64% MAKE LESS THAN 75,000 A YEAR. BOTH HAS BEEN EXPLOSIVE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WHETHER IT'S COVID OR THE GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE SEEN RAPID GROWTH TOTALLING NOW LOOKING AT 2020 CENSUS DATA OF 344,000 PEOPLE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

WORKFORCE IS CRITICAL SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT REGARDING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND NEW AND EXPANDING BUSINESSES HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH OUR COMPETITIVE WAGE RATE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA WHEN YOU COMPARE ST. LUCIE COUNTY'S AVERAGE EARNINGS PER WORKER RIGHT UNDER $20 PER HOUR AND YOU LOOK AT MIAMI-DADE, PALM BEACH, AND BROWARD THAT AVERAGE WAGE DIFFERENTIAL IS ABOUT $5.47 CENTS PER HOUR. ONE THING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS THE OUTCOMMUTE PATTERNS OF OUR WORKFORCE ABOUT 62% OF OUR WORKFORCE HOPS IN THE CAR TO GO WORK

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SOMEPLACE ELSE. ONCE YOU SEE ONE OF THE ROBUST JOB CREATION NUMBERS YOU WILL SEE WHY THE E.D.C.

AND ITS PARTNERS ARE REALLY PUSHING A WORK LOCAL CAMPAIGN IN THAT CAN WE GET FOLKS THAT ARE TRAVELING TO MARTIN, PALM BEACH, MIAMI-DADE AND OTHER PLACES IN FLORIDA CAN YOU COME BACK HOME TO WORK THIS IS A HEAT MAP THAT SHOWS THE VARIOUS AREAS THAT ARE ACCEPTING ST. LUCIE COUNTY WORKERS. AS YOU CAN SEE PALM BEACH AND MARTIN COUNTIES FIX VERY PROMINENTLY HOPS IN THE CARS AND GOES DOWN TO WORK WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THOSE INDIVIDUALS AGAIN COME HOME TO WORK IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. OFBT HOUSING HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY HOT MARKET. WHILE WE THINK THE PRICE FOR MEET MEDIAN SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS EXPENSIVE AT $305,000, $500,000 IN MIAMI-DADE, PALM BEACH AND MARTIN PUSHING $500,000 AND BROWARD $500,000.

AVERAGE DIFFERENTIAL OF OVER 1NIGH,000.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT I KNOW CONCERNS YOU ALL.

AND AN INITIATE THAT WE NEED TO SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON AND WE WOULD BE GLAD AS AN ORGANIZATION TO WORK WITH CITY COMMISSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

WITH WE HAVE SOME IDEAS, TOO.

AGAIN THIS IS COUNTY WIDE. IS LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON TRACK TO BREAK THAT NUMBER TO BREAK THAT ENOUGH AS OF JUNE 202021 OVER 2100. SO A LITTLE BIT ON BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND EXPANSION. WE HAVE TAKE AN LOOK AT ALL THE PROJECT ACTIVITY THAT HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WITH A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OVER $1 BILLION. THIS IS CREATED 17001700 NEW JOBS THROUGH 2020 AND TOTAL PROJECTED JOBS ALMOST 8,000 THIS NUMBER HAS BEEN RECALCULATED.

WE'VE HAD AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND NOW RESEARCHERS ARE INDICATING THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE 10,20 JOBS SO THIS IS REALLY AMAZING IN THE THAT THESE ARE WAGES OR THESE ARE JOBS THAT PAY WELL ABOVE AVERAGE WAGES ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS BUT WE HAVE A REAL ISSUE WE GET THE PROJECTS SPAN A LOT OF INDUSTRY SECTORS. MANUFACTURING, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, AVIATION MARKS RECENT A COUPLE HEADQUARTERS, AQUACULTURE, DISTRIBUTION, AND LIFE SCIENCES.

SO IT'S BEEN PRETTY BALANCED WE'VE HAD HAD EIGHT ACTIVE PROJECTS 1.86 MILLION SQUARE FEET.

AND THOSE EIGHT PROJECTS ARE EXPECTED TO CREATE 1300 JOBS.

SOME OF THIS IS NOT NEW. AMAZON WILL BUILD ITS FILL MILE FULFILLMENT CENTER. THIS IS A COOL COMPANY CHANDLER BASS. THEY'RE MANUFACTURING WOODEN BATS. IT'S COOL THESE WERE USED IN THE U.S. OLYMPIC QUALIFIER HERE IN PORT ST. LUCIE.

MODEST COMPANY. CHENEY BLOWERS BUILD THEIR

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NEWEST DISTRIBUTION CENTER THIS WILL BE 427,000 SQUARE FEET. $55 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND ABOUT 380 JOBS.

THESE JOBS PAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 55,000 AND 60,000 I'M THINKING ABOUT DRIVING A TRUCK.

JUST LIKE THE OLD TIMES --. 200 JOBS00 JOBS WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM TO OPEN UP EITHER AT THE END OF THIS

YEAR THE BEGINNING OF 2022. >> D AND D WELDING FEDEX GROUND 245,000 SQUARE FEET. 44 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND 490 JOBS. THEY NEED 385 PEOPLE AT THE END OF NEXT MONTH. 385.

THE WAGES OF THIS ARE ABOVE AFL-CIO ESPECIALLY ON THE MANAGEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL SIDE.

THEY'RE AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING FOR TALENT.

SOON,000 SQUARE FEET. WE HAVE A NEW INTERNATIONAL COMPANY JOHN STEEL WHO IS OUTSIDE OF TEL AVIV IN ISRAEL. THEY'RE A CHASSIS MANUFACTURER THEY DO THINGS REVOLVING AROUND THE THE PORTS AND TRANSPORTATION. THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN THE MIDWAY BISMARCK. 45,000 SQUARE FEET AND 55 NEW JOBS. 106,000 SQUARE FEET, 150 NEW JOBS. JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT SIDE BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WILL BE VERY DRAMATIC IN TERMS OF A VISUAL PER SECTION AS YOU DRIVE DOWN I-95 ON THE TURNPIKE.

THERE WILL BE LARGE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT MONUMENTS ALL IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

SO I TALKED ABOUT TRADITION WITH THE SILVER MAN GROUP, TAMOBNI, C-3 AND STONE MONT ALL ALONG THE I-95 CORRIDOR AND KINGS HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. SO CURRENTLY ON TAP IS OVER SIX MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INTERNATIONAL AND INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES GOING ON IN NOT ONLY FORT PIERCE BUT ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THAT'S AMAZING.

TALK ADAI LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEGACY PARK.

JUST TO GIVE YOU THE IDEA OF THE FACT THAT JUST TWO YEARS AGO THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE HAD 1200 ACRES THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

NOW WITH SANDSTONE GROUP IN THERE THERE'S 100 ACRES LEFT.

LOGISTICS CENTER THIS SITE IS ON A 65 ACRE PARCEL JUST SOUTH OF LOVE'S TRUCK STOP, KINGS HIGHWAY AND ORANGE AVENUE. THE COMPANY THAT'S BUILDING THE AMAZON DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

THIS IS A SPEC BUILDING. I KNOW LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS HERE KINGS HIGHWAY IS REALLY JUST TREMENDOUS DEVELOPMENT.

SO ORANGE AVENUE, KINGS HIGHWAY, AIRPORT, YOU KNOW THIS IS ALL PART OF IN MY OPINION THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE'S COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU APPROVE OF THE SILVERMAN'S GROUP INTERSTATE CROSSROADS BUSINESS CENTER.

550,000 SQUARE FEET TO BEGIN WITH.

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AGAIN, SO WE'RE SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE UPHELD THE SPEED TO MARKET -- BEING ABLE TO APPROVE WITHIN 100 DAYS. THEY HAVE A TREMENDOUS REPUTATION FOR SPEED TO MARKET.

NOT ONLY NATIONALLY BUT NOW I THINK INTERNATIONALLY.

THIS IS GREAT WE APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS.

SOUTH FLORIDA LOGISTICS CENTER IS ADJACENT TO KINGS LOGISTICS CENTER ON ORANGE AVENUE AND KINGS HIGHWAY.

THIS IS ALSO SPEC AND BUILT TO SUIT WITH OVER 200,000 SQUARE FEET TO BE STARTING. SOME SMALLER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACE THIS IS GREAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IN THE CITY BEING ABLE TO HELP OUR EXISTING COMPANIES EXPAND. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INDUSTRIAL SPACE. YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSING, INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING IS VERY SCARCE AND AT A PREMIUM. SO I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE AND

ASK THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. >> NICK THAT WASN'T TOO BAD

WAS IT? >> HE SOME OTHER THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO CHAT ABOUT AS FAR AS GOING FORWARD.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S INQUIRING MINDS ON THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

>> THAT IS EXCITING THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN 10 YEARS AGO. NORMALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A POPEYE'S IN AND A STREETLIGHT SO WE'VE REALLY MOVED ON. YOU KNOW THE QUESTION THAT I GET IS WITH ALL THESE JOB OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY ARE WE SPEAKING TO OUR EDUCATION PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AS FAR AS VOCATIONS.

BECAUSE SOME OF THESE JOBS THAT YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT, PETE, DEALT WITH WELDING, AND SCIENCE, AND MECHANICAL THIS, AND THAT AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ENGINEERS, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ENGINEERS BUT

WE DO -- >> WE'RE LOUSY WITH

ENGINEERS. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONCENTRATION ON OUR POPULATION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABLE TO FILL THOSE JOBS AND THEY'RE NOT GOING OUTSIDE ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO FILL THOSE.

IS THIS ALSO PART OF THE BIG MIX THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT

NOW. >> YES, SIR, YES, COMMISSIONER GREAT QUESTION. TO ME IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK. HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALMOST 35 YEARS.

I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR HELPING CREATE TOO MANY JOBS BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS THERE COULD BE A TOTAL IMBALANCE. YES, WORKING ST. LUCIE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION.

INDIANS RIVER STATE COLLEGE, OUR TRADE ASSOCIATIONS, BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION CHARGER COAST, CHARGER COAST MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION.

WE HAVE TO TAP INTO BOTH THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND FUNCTIONS.

HOW DO WE GET OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN HIGH SCHOOL TO BE TRAINED SO THAT'S THE WORK THAT WILL BE DONE AS WE GO FORWARD WHERE WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON EXECUTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO, PART OF THAT IS YOU KNOW LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW OUR RESIDENTS THAT THESE ARE GREAT JOBS SO WE'LL RESPONDS TO THAT AS JOBS BECOME AVAILABLE. FOR EXAMPLE ON THE AGENDA WAS PROJECT LIFT TONIGHT. SIMILARLY WITH HOW WE GET

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THE RESIDENTS INTO WHO CAN WE PARTNER WITH TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THIS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL JOBS WERE EQUIVALENT TYPE THAT MAYBE SOME OF OUR PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING HERE TO BE DOWN THERE, ETC.

SO I GUESS I'M ASKING THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF DO WE GET PAST THAT AVERAGE OF $19 WITH ALL OF THIS COMMERCIALIZATION. WHAT'S YOUR BEST LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHERE WE'LL BE KIND OF NOTICING THE COMMERCIALIZATION THAT'S COMING.

>> YES, SIR, KMITHSER GREAT QUESTION.

THAT NUMBER IS A BIT OLD RIGHT UNDER $40,000 A YEAR IF YOU ANNUALIZE IT. WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS LIKE ON THE MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION SIDE ENTRY LEVEL NO EXPERIENCE $15, $16.

FOR EXAMPLE, WAL-MART DISTRIBUTION IS OVER $19.04.

JUST WALK IN THE DOOR YOU'RE MOTIVATED YOU COME TO WORK.

RELATIVELY GREAT STARTING WAGE AND BENEFITS.

SO YES OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN SOME CREEP UP.

THESE JOBS ARE AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S AN ANNUALIZED NUMBER IT'S 30,000, 40,000 THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS SO FOR US TO HAVE THOUSAND THEY WOULD REALLY QUALIFY FOR SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, RIGHT.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE TO GO FORWARD.

MORE ROOFTOPS ARE GOING TO ATTRACT MORE COMMERCIALIZATION OF COMPANIES THAT WANT TO COME HERE WE WILL NEED TO DO THAT. YOU MENTION THESE WAGES BUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT THAT RENT AS WELL? WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

THOSE PRICES ARE ALSO THEY ARE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES NOW LIKE IT I THINK IT'S GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THE MORE COMMERCIALIZATION YOUR JOBS FOR ST. LUCIE

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COUNTY WE HAVE BEEN THE EPICENTER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOUTH FLORIDA HOUSING STOCK IS PRETTY LOW.

THERE HAS BEEN VERY FEW MULTIFAMILY HOUSING PROJECTS THEY'RE COMING WE JUST APPROVED ONE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE LOCALS TO MAKE THAT'S A CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A A CONCERN. INSTEAD OF THOSE BLIGHTED LOTS WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR LAND USE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET SOME HOUSES BUILT AND DEVELOPERS COMING IN TO BUILD SOME OF THESE HOUSES. SO I THINK IF YOU KNOW THIS TYPE OF COMMUNICATION IS DIALOGUE HELPS TO US GET THE WORD OUT THIS IS A PERFECT STORM THAT'S HAPPENING IT'S PROBABLY NOT HAPPENING AS FAST AS SOME PEOPLE WANT IT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE GOOD MORE GOOD NEWS I KNOW WHEN YOU WERE SITTING HERE WITH US.

GROUPS LIKE THE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION THAT THAT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT SO SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT STAND OUT TO ME AND COMMISSIONER C-JOHNSON STARTED TALKING BY THE IS THE COMMUTE PATTERN OUT OF THE COUNTY OR OUT OF CITY A LOT OF FOLKS WHEN I TALKED TO THEM AND TRY TO HIRE THEM FOR WORK.

THE OTHER SLIDE WAS THE WAGE.

IF I JUST DRIVE TO WEST PALM BEACH I GET $25, $26 AN HOUR UP HERE IT'S $20 AN HOUR. I CAN JUSTIFY THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A DELICATE BALANCE FOR OUR FOLKS THAT ARE LOCAL TO BE ABLE TO AVOID A HOME AT 300,000 PRICE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIVE SOUTH OF HERE FOR $500,000. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT PROBLEM. BUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING DOWN THERE ARE COMING TO ST. LUCIE BECAUSE IT'S JUST CHEAPER. IT'S CHEAPER.

SO WHEN WE HAVE PROGRAMS AND FROM A POLICYMAKER STANDPOINT YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS AND I WOULDN'T BE HERE I WOULD BE A MILLIONAIRE SOMEWHERE ELSE IF I KNEW THAT THE FORMULA IS TO SAY HERE IT IS THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO EMPLOY ALL OF OUR FOLKS WE'LL GIVE YOU A HOME, TOO AND EVERYONE WILL MAKE YOU KNOW LOTS OF MONEY. BUT THE CHALLENGE IS ABSOLUTELY GETTING FOLKS TO WORK, BRINGING THOSE JOBS HERE. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF JOBS AND JUST LOOKING AT THE WORKFORCE.

GETTING THESE FOLKS GOOD COMPETITIVE WAGES.

GETTING THEM INTO HOMES FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.

BUT, WITHOUT A DOUBT FOLKS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COMMUTE AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, FOR A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE IT'S JUST HAPPENING THAT WAY. BECAUSE IT PAYS FOR.

WHEN I WENT TO A BECAUSE HOUSES COST TOO MUCH MONEY.

THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR BIG ISSUES.

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THAT WAS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

SO I HAVE KIND OF KEPT UP WITH IT.

THEY'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S A REAL ISSUE.

SO THE BLUE COLLAR GREEN COLLAR JOBS THEY'RE STUFF.

IT'S TOUGH TO FIND FOLKS TO DO THAT.

IT'S COMING HERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE BIG PART HOW DO WE LEARN AND TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THAT. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG THAT HAVE BEEN SO GOOD AND LOYAL TO FORT PIERCE I WOULD HATE TO DRIVE THAT OUT OF HERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX. THAT OBVIOUSLY, COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT STRATEGY FOR THE CITY YOU KNOW, INFILL MAKING MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PERMITTING AND REGULATORY PROCESS.

SOMEWHAT QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.

WE DO HAVE AFFORDABLE LAND. THE BUILDING BLOCKS ARE THERE AT LEAST IN MY OPINION TO MITIGATE OR ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE UPWARD PRESSURES WHETHER IT'S ON YOU KNOW THE PRICE OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR RENTS WHETHER IT'S MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE RESIDENCES.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT NOT MY WHEELHOUSE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING PER SE BUT I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY INTELLIGENT AND NICK'S STAFF HAS THE CAPABILITIES TO WORK ON THIS. BUT YES, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET AN HANDLE ON THAT. MADAM MAYOR.

>> PETE, WHAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE.

I KNOW OF ONE IT'S TRANSPORTATION.

WHAT ROLE DO YOU PLAY OR WHAT CAN WE DO TO ASSIST IN, YOU KNOW, POLITICKING IN OUR OWN WAY TO GARNER MORE MONEY FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA SPECIFICALLY.

I KIND OF GOT ONTO THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU KNOW THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE I SAID YOU GUYS HAVE HAVEN'T INVESTED IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY THE WAY I THINK YOU SHOULD BECAUSE WE'RE JUST BEHIND THE CURVE IN MANUFACTURING I KNOW SABRINA IS HERE.

ONE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD IS MORE ON ORGANIC OR GRALS ROOTS. -- GRASSROOTS.

IF PEOPLE WANT TO WORK IN THE LINCOLN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW WE KNOW THAT OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM DOESN'T REALLY LINE UP TIMEWISE OR ROUTEWISE WITH SOME OF OUR KEY EMPLOYERS ABOUT. PUT PEOPLE WANTED TO WORK IS THERE A WAY WE COULD ASSEMBLE EITHER PRIVATE OR SEMIPRIVATE ARRANGEMENT WHEREBY WE ADD A SMALL BUS OR VANS OR CARPOOLING AND ARRANGE THAT TO GET PEOPLE TO WHETHER IT BE PURSUIT OR MAVERICK OR SOUTHERN EAGLE OR WAL-MART AND DO THAT IN AN ORGANIC SMALL WAY.

SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW TRYING TO WORK WITH A LARGENESS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND TRY TO CHANGE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM IT'S PRETTY DAUNTING. WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THESE QUICK AGILE WAYS TO GET PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO

POINT B. >> YEAH, AND I'VE TALKED TO OUR COMMUNITY OUR TRANSIT FOLKS.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S AN INWARD LOOK.

IT'S A LOOK AT OURSELVES SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE FIRST. THEN JEREMIAH TAKE ON THE ROLE OF CALLING D.O.T. OUT. LET'S GET D.O.T. WORKING IN OUR FINDS THAT, TOO. BECAUSE KINGS HIGHWAY YOU KNOW IT'S BLOWING UP. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT KINGS HIGHWAY FOR 22 YEARS. 1999 IS WHEN HE MY FIRST CONVERSATION ABOUT KINGS HIGHWAY AND WE'RE FINALLY THERE. BUT WE HAVEN'T BUILT

ANYTHING DIFFERENT. >> SO, I MENTIONED YOU KNOW THERE'S SIX MILLION SQUARE FEET OF STUFF BUILDINGS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW AND IT'S, YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL IN THE FORMATION PHASE. BUT WHEN YOU SEE THOSE BUILDINGS GO UP IN THE VERTICAL AND THEN WE GOT TO

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GET PEOPLE IN THEM, AGAIN I KIND OF GO BACK TO THE POINT IT'S LIKE YEAH IT'S NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL HOW DO WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE.

IT'S PRETTY DAUNTING. >> IT IS.

BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> SO I THINK TO GO BACK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF YOU WORKING WITH DR. MOORE AT IRSC AND MR. JANSSEN OF THE SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S ARE OUR KIDS AND OUR PARENTS DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE THEY WANT THEM TO STAY HERE. NOW THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I KNOW THAT IN TALKING TO BILL AT PHOENIX METAL WHO IS A GREAT EMPLOYER BECAUSE HE EMPLOYS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAYBE GET IN TROUBLE HE KEEPS EMPLOYEES HE SAYS IF YOU DON'T KNOW A THING ABOUT WHAT WE DO HERE, IF YOU HAVE A WORK ETHIC I WILL TRAIN YOU AND I WILL KEEP YOU AND I WILL PAY YOU WELL. THAT WAS HIS WHOLE PHILOSOPHY WAS NOT HAVING HE'S NOT GOING TO BOTHER WITH SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T GOING TO SHOW UP.

DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SHOWING UP.

THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE.

BUT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO TRAIN SOMEBODY WHO IS

WILLING TO WORK. >> THAT'S GREAT, MAYOR BILL WILCOX WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD GREAT EMPLOYER.

HE'S ONE OF THE STRONG PROPONENTS OF THE MANUFACTURING BOOT CAMP. HE'S GIVEN A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE CHANCES AND SECOND CHANCES.

>> YES HE HAS. HE HAS.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION THAT TOMORROW AT 11:30, WE HAVE OUR E.D.C. VIRTUAL LUNCH.

I INVITE YOU ALL TO HAVE A VIRTUAL LUNCH ON WITH US.

-- LUNCHEON WITH US. SO TOMORROW WE HAVE DR. TIM MOORE, PRESIDENT OF IRSC, SUPERINTENDENT WAYNE JAN THEN LESLIE KRISTOF PRESIDENT OF KAISER UNIVERSITY. AND OUR WORKFORCE CONSULTANT IS MODERATING THE PANEL ON OKAY, WHAT ARE WE DOING? YOU KNOW THREE MAIN ENTITIES OUR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM.

SO I THINK IT WILL BE PRETTY FASCINATING.

>> GOOD. GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH PETE FOR BEING HERE AND BRINGING THE GOOD NEWS.

MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND I JUST HAVE LIKE 30 SECONDS.

>> I DON'T MIND. PLEASE.

I WANT YOU TO SHARE WHATEVER'S IMPORTANT.

>> GIVE EVERYONE A CLOSING. >> GO AHEAD.

>> OBVIOUSLY, WHAT'S OCCURRING IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE IS REALLY EXCITING. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NICK AND HIS STAFF VERY CLOSELY ON KINGS LANDING TO OTHERS NICK'S FORWARD WORD THIS IS CATALYTIC PROJECT AND IT HAS TREMENDOUS ECONOMICOUT PUT. SO WE'RE WORKING TO LAND A FOUR STAR HOTEL BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

THIS PROJECT IS A MUST-HAVE FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND THE HOTEL THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT FOUR STAR HOTEL 144 ROOMS CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF ABOUT 44 MILLION DOLLARS AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT NICK HAS BEEN VERY YRK GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. THANK YOU ENDING ON THAT NOTE. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. ANY IDEA THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL.

>> YES, MAYOR, 11 B. >> YES, MAYOR.

11 F. IF NOT ANYTHING ELSE I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> A MOTION AND THE SECOND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Approval of a Blanket Purchase Order in the amount of $150,000.00 for services provided by the Sunrise Humane Society for Fiscal Year 2022.]

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REACHING THROUGH THIS IN THE SUPPORT INFORMATION IT SAID THAT A REVIEW OF FINANCIAL RECORDS SHOWN THAT THE CITY'S FUNDING NEED BACKGROUND TO INCREASED TO MEET I GUESS IT'S 15,000 MORE THAN THE BUDGET CALLS FOR AND OUR BUDGET IS NOW WHAT FOUR DAYS OLD.

SO WE'RE MAKING CHANGES. I KNOW IS AN ONGOING PROCESS AND THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY THE RELATIONSHIP STARTED WITHIN LAST YEAR AND THAT IT HAS YOU KNOW THAT IT'S GOING FORWARD AND WE'RE LEARNING AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNER IN THIS WITH THE COUNTY, HOPEFULLY, STILL.

AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT I DON'T KNOW WHOLE LOT ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW I HAD QUESTIONS LIKE YOU KNOW, THIS IS $15,000 HEAL THAT, DOES IT MAKE THOSE SERVICES, DOES IT PAR FOR THOSE SERVICES ADEQUATELY? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE I THINK IT AFFECTS OUR RELATIONSHIP GOING FORWARD.

AND I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS BUT PEGGY, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH ALL THIS? IS THIS A FIX ALL FOR

2021-22 BUDGET? >> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR

AND COMMISSIONERS. >> YES AND NO.

>> THERE YOU GO. I LIKE THAT.

>> LET ME START WITH THE BIG ONE AND THAT'S THE COUNTY.

IT'S A MAJOR ISSUE. LAST WEEK THERE WAS A JOINT MEETING WITH THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY IN WHICH THE COUNTY DID ANNOUNCE ITS INTENTION TO NOT CONTINUE THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY. THEY PLAN ON PRESENTING THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THEIR COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 19TH WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO GO THEIR OWN WAY IN THEIR WORDS. GO THEIR OWN WAY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

NOW I HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY DR. KITHAMS AND BECKY ARNOLD WHO ARE THE NEW BOARD PRESIDENT ARE BOTH HERE.

BUT I HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THEM AS OUR CONTRACTOR REQUIRES FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS HOW THEY HAVE INDICATED STEPS THAT THEY'VE TAKEN TO HELP SAVE MONEY AND CHANGE THEIR EXPENSES TO LOWER THEM.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE WE WERE A LITTLE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE NOW TAKEN ON THE EMERGENCY CARE.

SO THEY PAY THE BILL AT THE ANIMAL EMERGENCY WHICH SO THAT'S AN INCREASE IN SERVICE.

WE KIND OF HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

SO WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. I MET WITH MR. MIMMS IT'S TIME TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET.

WE HAVE HAD ALMOST THE SAME BUDGET FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.

IT'S GONE UP $10,000 IN 10 YEARS.

SO COST OF SERVICE, COST OF LIVING HAS INCREASED MORE THAN THAT. SO WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PLUS, THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS BRINGING ON. SO WE OFFER THE ADDITIONAL $15,000 TO HELP OFFSET THAT. WILL IT CURE EVERYTHING? PROBABLY NOT. BUT AGAIN, I'M WORKING WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY THEY'RE WORKING ON DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR INCREASING THEIR INCOME SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SO RELIANT ON THE CITY FOR THEM TO OPERATE.

THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT. OUR CONTRACT IS GOOD UNTIL MARCH OF NEXT YEAR. SAME WITH OUR LEASE.

OUR LEASE IS GOOD UNTIL MARCH OF NEXT YEAR.

THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGE OF SERVICES.

THOSE CONTRACTS DO EXIST WE JUST HAVE TO PAY THEM RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A BILL DUE TO PAY THEM RIGHT NOW. SO OUR FOCUS IS TONIGHT TO GET THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO PAY OUR PORTION OF WHAT WE OWE THEM AND IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS SEE IF THE COUNTY DOES CHOOSE TO GO THEIR OWN WAY AND IF THEY DO THEN WE CAN TAKE WHATEVER STEPS ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ORGANIZATION CONTINUES TO FUNCTION.

>> SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I KNOW THE CONTRACT IS COMING UP. WE HAVE DEALT WITH NOT NECESSARILY THE SUNRISE HUMANE BUT HUMANE SOCIETY ANIMAL SERVICES ON SAVANNAH ROAD FOR LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. I KEEP THINKING THAT WE'RE ABOUT DONE WITH IT AND WE'VE MOVED ON NOW AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH DOING ITS OWN THING. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL LEARNING DURING THIS PROCESS AND EVERYTHING.

I THINK REALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A GRIP ON IT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE AGREEMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO

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FORWARD AND TWEAKING IT HERE AND THERE IS FINE.

BUT NOW YOU PULL THE COUNTY OUT OF IT WE LOSE THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE. ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN AND THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT IS A LARGE GAME CHANGER FOR THIS AND IT PROBABLY IT COULD PUT THE WHOLE ARRANGEMENT INTO JEOPARDY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A HANDLE ON RATHER THAN -- AND I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING RATHER GET TO A MOMENT IN TIME WHERE EVERYTHING IS BLOWN UP THEN WE'RE CALLED TO COME IN AND START FIGURING OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO.

>> AND -- LET ME BACK UP. HE THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO SPEAK WITH DR. KITHAMS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE MEETING AND THE DAY AFTER. SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WAS IT COULD TURN OUT TO BE A POSITIVE.

IF THERE'S THREE SHELTERS SERVICING THE AREA YOU KNOW ST. LUCIE COUNTY WOULD HAVE A SHELTER, FORT PIERCE, PORT ST. LUCIE WOULD HAVE A SHELTER IT'S ACTUALLY INCREASING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY BY HAVING THREE SHELTERS. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. PLUS, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO THIS FACILITY ON SAVANNAH ROAD WOULD BE DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO THAT OPENS UP ANOTHER REALM OF POSSIBILITIES THIS IS A DISCUSSION I HAD WITH MR. MIMMS ABOUT POSSIBLY RENEGOTIATING PORTIONINGS OF THE LEASE.

RIGHT NOW THE LEASE IS VERY TIGHT.

IT CAN ON-LINE BE USED FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER.

SO WE FAILED TO EVEN INCLUDE SOMETHING BASIC LIKE AN ANIMAL REBATED SERVICES. SO IF THEY WANT TO OFFER TRAINING CLASSES, DOG TRAINING CLASSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROHIBITED BY THE TIGHTNESS THAT WE PUT ON THAT LEASE. SO WE NEED TO REWORD IT A LITTLE BIT TO ALLOW THINGS LIKE PUPPY TRAINING AND ANIMAL TRAINING. IT DOES HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE FOR SUBLETING. THEY HAVE AN ANIMAL RESCUE ORGANIZATION HAS REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO LEASE SOME OF THEIR RUNS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR FOSTERS. SO THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS LOOKING FOR ALTERNATE WAYS TO MAKE MONEY AND GENERATE INCOME AND MAKE THEMSELVES SELF-SUSTAINING AND NOT RELYING SOLELY ON THE CITY. SO THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING. I LOVE THE WAY THAT THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TRYING TO THINK OF ALTERNATE WAYS TO USE THAT FACILITY AND USE THEIR RESOURCES AND THEIR EXPERTISE TO BECOME A SELF-SUSTAINING ENTERPRISE.

>> I'LL GET OFF THE SUBJECT HERE SHORTLY.

BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COUNTY WAS A LARGER PLAYER AS FAR AS CONTRIBUTIONS LIKE AT LEAST $100,000 HIGHER THAN CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND I THINK THAT WAS ALL SET BY IMPOUND NUMBERS THAT WERE ESTIMATED AT THE TIME. YOU PULL OUT SOMEBODY THAT'S CONTRIBUTING MORE THAN 50% AND THERE AGAIN I'M BACK TO THE ECONOMY OF SCALE. YOU DON'T HAVE THE IMPOUNDS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANIMAL SCARES AND -- CARES AND SERVICES. THERE ARE JUST BASIC SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE AND THOSE COST MONEY. I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS SAYING MYSELF THAT THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A SUSTAINABLE OPERATION. SO I MEAN, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE INVOLVED IT WITH. I THINK PERHAPS WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMED OF HOW THIS IS WORKING AND HOW THIS IS DEVELOPING.

SO BY THE TIME WE GET TO MARCH AND IT IS RENEGOTIATED, IF IT IS, THAT WE'RE ALL UP ON-LINE AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH I HEARD DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NO KILL AND KILL SHELTER BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S PART OF THE BUSINESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SAY IN THAT IF I CAN.

I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES NEED TO HAVE A SAY IN THAT ALSO. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE INFORMED AND KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S CHANGING DAILY FOR YOU. SO I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU PEGGY. I'M JUST SAYING THE FACT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND THE FOLKS UP HERE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON SO THAT WE CAN BE APART OF THE SOLUTION.

>> MR. C. JOHNSON. >> I'M JUST GOING TO BE BRIEF. I WOULD ECHO THAT.

I THINK THE RUMBLINGS HAVE NOW SURFACED.

HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF SOME THINGS.

I THINK THAT FROM ME AND THE APPROACH OF THIS GETTING AHEAD OF THIS I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT I GUESS MY QUESTION THE COUNTIES HAS INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO THEIR OWN WOULD THEY REMAIN OR IS THAT AN IMMEDIATE THAT THEY WOULD CEASE AND DESIST BECAUSE I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS OF THE PORTION THAT

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THEY PLAY. WOULD THAT PUT US IN AN EMERGENT SITUATION WITH THIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

BECAUSE WE STARTED WITH THREE NOW WE'RE -- WITH THIS SHELTER. THEY DON'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT THAT'S A HUGE VOID THERE.

THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. IS IT AN IMMEDIATE THAT THEY

WOULD CEASE AND DESIST? >> WELL, OUR CONTRACTS DO MIRROR EACH OTHER WHEN IT COMES TO THE TERMINATION CLAUSES. SO A TERMINATION FOR CAUSE WOULD REQUIRE TWO MONTHS NOTICE.

>> 60 DAYS NOTICE. AND TERMINATION WITHOUT CAUSE REQUIRES 120 DAY NOTICE.

>> SO BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THAT THE PART IN MARCH, THEY CAN COME BACK IN 60 DAYS AND SAY WE'RE OUT?

>> IF THEY CAN PROVIDE CAUSE. >> WHEN COULD THEY -- TWO TO FOUR MONTHS. OBJECTING.

SO THAT WOULD PUT US IN A SITUATION WHERE TWO TO FOUR MONTHS WOULD BE JANUARY, FEBRUARY SIMILAR TIME FRAME.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT POINT TO SUSTAIN WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. THE PART YOU SAID THE POSITIVE PART ABOUT YES THE NUMBERS MAY BE DOWN BASED ON THE CAPACITY COUNT BUT I, TOO, ECHO I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE IF WE HAVE A WORKSHOP REALLY TO UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BASIC OPERATION THE CAPACITY THAT'S COMING IN THERE RIGHT NOW. JUST SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA.

I WOULD RATHER KNOW THAT BEFORE IT HITS AND THOSE TWO TO FOUR MONTHS AND WE'RE SCRAMBLING TRYING TO MOVE MONIES AND THAT JUST IS NOT WHAT I WANT TO GO THROUGH.

>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >> AGREED.

AGREED. I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU.

WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR THIS.

WHAT I HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT I WAS GOING TO PULL THE AGENDA IDEA TONIGHT AND TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING COMING UP IN NOVEMBER. UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS HAPPENING ACCORDING TO PEGGY ON OCTOBER 19TH.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW ALMOST A MONTH IN FRONT OF WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM I HAVE ASKED THEM TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AND TO TALK ABOUT IT. JUST ASK THEM WHAT IS YOUR PLAN. TELL US WHAT IT IS.

YOU SAID YOU'RE WITHDRAWING. 120 DAYS IF THAT'S THE CASE THAT SOUNDS GOOD. BUT WE ALL KNOW YOU KNOW JUST FROM VERY SIMPLE MATHEMATICS THAT THE ECONOMY OF SCALE WORKS BETTER WHEN YOU HAVE YOU KNOW MORE MONEY TO THE SAME POT AND NOT DUPLICATING EFFORTS.

THAT'S BUSINESS 101 IN MY OPINION.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED.

SO WHAT I REMEMBER FROM OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACTS THOUGH AND I NOT WITH TO KNOW THE BACKGROUND NUMBERS OF WHAT I REMEMBER THOUSAND ANIMALS PER YEAR IS WHAT WE ESTIMATED. WE USED TO ST. THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY $130 PER ANIMAL EASY MATH IS $130,000 PER YEAR SOMEWHERE RIGHT THERE. THEN WE BUMPED IT TO $133,000 AT ONE POINT. NOW WE'RE AT $150,000 IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK THAT THE COSTS ARE JUST MORE.

BUT I DO THINK WE AS A CITY SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT, NO, I DON'T.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD BE EVEN WILLING TO ENTERTAIN. THAT BEING SAID NOW THAT WE'RE NOT NEGOTIATING CONTRACT I THINK YOU PINPOINTED SOME SOLUTION-TYPE ITEMS WHERE RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT. ALLOW MORE MULTIUSE WITHIN THE FACILITY. ALLOW THEM TO TAKE A SMALLER PORTION OF THE FACILITY IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.

WHATEVER IT IS WE HAVE TO BE DYNAMIC IN HOW WE GO ABOUT STRUCTURING THIS NEXT NEGOTIATED DEAL.

WE'VE GOT SIX MONTHS TO DO SO OR FIVE MONTHS TO DO SO TO BE READY FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

ALL THOSE NUMBERS GETTING THAT BACKGROUND, WHATEVER ELSE YOU KNOW YOU PLOIFD US NUMBERS THAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE YEARS THAT'S JUST OVER THE YEARS YOU KNOW.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY DIAL IT IN AND SHRINK DOWN WHERE WE WANT TO BE EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

OH, BY THE WAY, DO WE HAVE A PARTNER? THAT'S THE OTHER BIG QUESTION.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH, TOO IN THAT WORKSHOP IS TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF A HUMANE SOCIETY DO WE WANT TO BE APART OF.

THAT'S BIG. MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE COUNTY IS GETTING OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY RAN IT TEMPORARILY FOR A WHILE AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAD VERY LITTLE SERVICES WHATSOEVER WITH THE COMMUNITY THEY WERE JUST PUSHING THE ANIMALS OUT TO THOSE ANIMAL SERVICE COMPANIES THAT CAN --, YOU KNOW, FOR ADOPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SO IT WAS VERY THEY DID A GREAT JOB BUT IT WAS LIKE TEMPORARY BASIS IT WAS JUST A VERY LOW SCALE, LOW SERVICE LOW WHATSOEVER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO DECIDE WHO WHAT WE WANT TO BE APART OF. I THINK THAT WAS SOME OF THE MESSAGE THAT WE GOT EARLIER IN THE COMMENT.

AT LEAST TO THE POINT WHERE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT COSTS GO ALONG WITH THAT. IT COMES DOWN TO A BUSINESS DECISION. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE COMPETING THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CITY ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE TO TAKE FROM THAT FOR THIS.

SO WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND TOTALLY HOW THIS CONTRACT IS GOING TO COME TOGETHER AND HOW THE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINED OVER A PERIOD

OF TIME. >> ONE MORE COMMENT.

I THINK THE OTHER PART OF THAT FOR ME, COMMISSIONER, IS IF WE'RE DOWN TO ONE I REALLY THINK WE'RE DOWN TO TWO. BECAUSE THIS SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY IS AN ENTITY. FOR A NEW COMMISSIONER LIKE MYSELF I REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS ARE AND WHAT THEIR BUDGET WOULD BE FROM THEIR PARTICIPATION ALONG WITH THE CITY.

YOU MENTION THAT AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO AT LEAST GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT IF WE'RE DOWN TO THE CITY THEN WE HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PLAN IS TOO SO BE SELF-SUSTAINING. MUCH LIKE THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE SUNRISE THREATER AND ETC.

THAT'S WHERE MY MENTALITY COMES IN WITH THIS.

>> TO ADD MY TWO CENTS IN I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS HAS COME ABOUT. I REALLY AM BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD EVERYBODY WORKED TOGETHER.

WE WORKED TOGETHER AND WHEN PORT ST. LUCIE LEFT WE WORKED TOGETHER AND WE ENTERED INTO CONTRACTS IN GOOD FAITH AND WE PLANNED OUR BUDGET AND WE -- AND SO I FEEL I FEEL THIS IS VERY, VERY CONCERNING THAT YOU WORK SO HARD AND EVERYBODY'S WORKED SO HARD AND THEN WE HAVE AN ENTITY THAT SAYS NOPE, GOING OUR OWN WAY.

GOING OUR OWN WAY. WHEN WE WERE PARTNERS AND WE WERE AND WE ENTERED INTO THIS WHOLE DEAL IN GOOD FAITH. I FIND THIS VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTING MYSELF. SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO IF THAT'S THE DECISION THEN WE HAVE TO MOVE ON AND DECIDE FOR US I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY.

BUT I THINK THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY AND OUR STAFF WE WORKED HARD AND WE REALLY WORKED FAST AND WE WORKED IN COOPERATION WITH THE COUNTY TO GET THAT BUILDING UP TO CODE AND WE EMBARKED ON IT IN GOOD FAITH WITH A CONTRACT WENT INTO A CONTRACT WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY. IT'S JUST VERY VERY DISAPPOINTING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PARTNER IN THE COUNTY.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD THING.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A PARTNER IF THAT ISN'T IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT I'VE HEARD THESE RUMBLINGS BUT I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS TO THIS POINT. I THINK WE'RE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME SORT OF EFFORT TO SALVAGE THIS PARTNERSHIP IF BUT IF IT'S NOT TO BE IT'S NOT TO BE.

COMMISSIONERS. >> SO I DON'T HAVE ANY POLITICAL INSIGHT TO THIS BUT EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT ME THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING MISSING ON OUR SIDE.

THEY THINK WE'RE NOT PAYING ENOUGH OR WE DON'T THINK THEY'RE PAYING ENOUGH. WE HAVE THIS MANY ANIMALS AND THEY HAVE THIS MANY ANIMALS AND OH, MY GOSH WHERE ARE YOU DOING THINK THE WAY.

I FEEL THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PORT ST. LUCIE PART OF IT. MAYBE NOT.

BUT THAT'S MY GUT TELLS ME SOMETHING IS MISSING AS FAR AS THE COMMUNICATION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT STAFF IS NOT COMMUNICATING BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE.

SOMEONE HAS AN IMPRESSION SOMEWHERE SOMEONE JUST SAYS I'VE JUST HAD ENOUGH. THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, TOO.

I DON'T KNOW. HERE WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF HAVING A JOINT MEETING SO WE CAN SIT IN A ROOM AND TALK WITH THESE FOLKS AND PAVE A PLAN OR TELL ME A WAY TO GO ABOUT IT OR JUST SAY THAT WE'RE OUT.

I WOULD RATHER HEAR IT NOT HEAR IT THROUGH OH, WOW WE HAVE TO GO TO A COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING ON ONTH 19TH AND SAY HEY WOULD YOU MIND WAITING 25 DAYS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SIT IN A ROOM AND TALK TOGETHER VERY SOON.

NICK IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO WITH MR. TIPTON.

>> OR WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY.

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>> JUST TO -- WHERE ARE THEY? THEY'RE JUST LIKE PLOWING AND THAT'S IT?

>> AS FAR AS THEIR INTENTIONS I BELIEVE THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR INTENTIONS WITH THAT MEETING WITH OUR CO-COMPLIANCE MANAGER AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE FOR ALL ALL TO SIT DOWN AS A JOINT FORCE AND HAVE A CIVIL DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT TYPE OF FUTURE WE WANT TO HAVE TOGETHER.

NOW, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WENT INTO THIS WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS. WE HAVE CREATED A FACILITY THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS A WRITTEN LETTER EITHER FROM THIS ELECTIVE BODY OR FROM MYSELF TO MR. TIPTON JUST ASKING FOR A STAY OR A HOLD ON THAT DETERMINATION ON OCTOBER 19TH.

WHEREBY WE CAN HAVE A TRUE DISCUSSION ON NOVEMBER 18TH EVEN IF THEY YOU KNOW DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TERMINATION OF THEIR AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD STILL BE PART NESHS ON NOVEMBER 18TH EITHER WAY.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING ASKING FOR THE STAY ON THAT DECISION YOU I THINK HOPEFULLY WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO COME FROM THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THE SERIOUSNESS AND THAT WE -- IF YOU'RE GOING TO DIVORCE US WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT IT.

>> I WOULD AGREE. I WOULD AGREE.

[LAUGHTER] >> IF I'LL DEFER TO OUR CLERK AND OUR ATTORNEY. IF YOU ALL BASICALLY GIVE CONSENSUS ON THAT TODAY WE ARE CAN GET THAT SIGNED IS

THAT ALL RIGHT. >> SURE.

YEAH. CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE IS ON THE

18TH. >> SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A STAY UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A JOINT MEETING AND DISCUSS THIS. RIGHT?

>> MAYOR I THINK YOU CAN WORD SMITH A VERY GOOD

LETTER. >> I WOULD LOVE THAT ASSIGNMENT. YOU KNOW I WOULD.

>> I THINK EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME SPOT.

I'M THERE WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> I JUST REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOMETHING THEY FEEL THAT'S AN ISSUE WE NEED TO GET IT OUT AND DISCUSS IT.

>> BEING A FORMER COUNTY STAFF MEMBER THAT PULLED THE RESOURCES OF FACILITIES AND MANAGEMENT STAFF TO WORK ON THAT FACILITY I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE ALWAYS RUMBLINGS BECAUSE NO ONE EVER KNOWS WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S ALWAYS RUMBLINGS WE'RE DOING ALL THE WORK WHAT THE IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOING. I'M SITTING IN THE MIDDLE.

NO, THERE'S STUFF GOING ON. I'M BEING FOR REAL.

WE NEED TO KNOW WE NEED TO VOICE FOCALLY NOT IN WRITING WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS OF OURSELVES AND WHERE WE PLAN TO BE, WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTION IS MAYBE FOLKS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW FULLY WHAT WE DO TO TAKE CARE OF THE FACILITY.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S LITTLE GRAY.

I WANT TO SAY IT LOUD AND FRAUD THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS IS HOW MUCH WE SPEND.

MAYBE OUR PARTNERS JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRULY

DOING. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPECTATION IS OF US THAT WHERE WE'RE FALLING DOWN WHERE WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT EXPECTATION.

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

LOOK WITHIN FIRST, POUR IT ALL OUT PUT IT ON PAPER THEN GO ALL RIGHT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT OF ME.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT MEETING YOUR EXPECTATION AND I WANT TO. BUT I NEED YOU AS A PARTNER.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THERE OKAY.

IF YOU WANT THAT DIVORCE ALL RIGHT.

>> I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE THE EFFORT.

RIGHT. >> OF COURSE.

THIS IS CALLED COUNSELLING I THINK ISN'T IT?

>> MEDIATION. >> DON'T ASK ME HOW I KNOW.

THAT HOW I KNOW THAT. >> SO I MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE 11 B. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL.

[f. Approval to piggyback the City of Vero Beach's annual resurfacing contract no.26-2019 with C.W. Roberts Contracting, Inc.]

>>> ITEM LETTER F PIGGYBACK VERO RESURFACING CONTRACT NUMBER 6-2019 WITH C.W. ROBERTS CONTRACTING INC..

>> MADAM MAYOR I ASKED FOR THIS ITEM TO BE PULLED I WAS VERY ELATED TO SEE. THIS I GOT KIND OF EXCITED BECAUSE I TELL YOU A LOT OF MY CHALLENGES I GET ARE ROAD RESURFACING AND THE CONDITIONS OF ROADS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. THAT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST RESEARCH PROJECT THAT I DID FOR MYSELF WAS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD IT THATIC TO MAKE OUR ROAD CONDITIONS IN

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BETTER CONDITION AND I KNOW IT'S AT THAT TIME I WAS $16 MILLION NOW IT'S PROBABLY GONE UP TO $18 MILLION, $19 MILLION. MR. ANDREWS THANK YOU FOR COMING. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE INTENTION HERE WITH THIS.

I KNOW WE HAVE THE SURTAX HALF CENT GOING AND YOU COMBINE SOME PROJECTS. FROM A STANDPOINT OF THIS PERSPECTIVE CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS AND SIMILAR PROJECTS AND HOW WE IDENTIFIED WITH THIS ROAD RESURFACING-TYPE STUFF.

>> MR. ANDREWS? >> MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ASK YOUR APPROVAL TO GO AHEAD AND UTILIZE THE CITY OF VERO BEACH'S CONTINUING SERVICE CONTRACT. IT'S GOOD PRICES ON THE ASPHALT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO & THE CONTRACTOR WAS WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND HONOR THAT.

SO, MY INTENTION IS TO COME BEFORE YOU GET YOUR APPROVAL, TURN AROUND I'VE ALREADY REQUESTED FROM THEM PRICING ON A CERTAIN NUMBER OF STREETS.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED THAT ON FRIDAY.

WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS GO AHEAD IF I GET YOUR APPROVAL TODAY PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

THEY ARE ALREADY ANTICIPATING SCHEDULING THIS FOR END OF NOVEMBER FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER SO DO THIS.

AFTER DOING THIS, WHICH ROUGHLY 450 TO 500,000 WORTH OF RESURFACING. AFTER THIS, AFTER THE HOLIDAYS I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK NEAR THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND THAT TIME FRAME AND DO ANOTHER 500,000 WORTH OF STREETS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED.

THE ONES THAT WE IDENTIFIED NOW ARE EARMARKED LIKE AVENUE E FROM TENTH TO 17TH. IN THAT SECTION, SECTION 15TH TO TENTH AND BLOCKING IN THERE.

I HAVE ALREADY WENT TO THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY TO VERIFY THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT.

THEY GOT BACK WITH ME YESTERDAY THEY HAVE TWO STREETS THAT THEY WANT TO PULL OFF OF THERE.

12TH STREET AND MEEMS COURT TWO STREETS THAT THEY WANT TO GO IN AND DO SOME UTILITY WORK PRIOR TO.

SO I'M ANTICIPATING THAT THOSE STREETS WILL BE PUT ON FIRST OF JANUARY, FEBRUARY. FINISH THAT WHOLE BLOCKED SECTION AND THEN ADD SOME OTHERS TO IT.

>> I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR IN THIS IS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTS WHERE YOU TRY TO BURY THE CABLE AND DO OTHER THINGS ALONG WITH HALF CENT TO STRETCH ALL OF THAT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THIS CASE WE WERE AVOIDING THAT AND WOULD RESURFACE THOSE AT THIS TIME. THEY WILL BE DUG UP ANY WAY TO A CERTAIN COMMENT. WITH THIS PROGRAM -- CERTAIN EXTENT. WITH THIS PROGRAM THEY WILL BE ROADS THAT MAYBE DON'T FIT THAT PROJECT SCOPE BUT WILL NEED TO BE RESURFACED BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION,

RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

>> OKAY I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

THANK YOU. >> SO WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US WE'LL KNOW WHICH STREETS, WE'LL KNOW THE SCOPE AND THEN THE NEXT TIME YOU COME BACK WE'LL KNOW THE SCOPE?

>> I'LL HAVE THE PRICES. >> WILL THIS BE ALL SURTAX

MONEY OR A BLEND? >> YES, I AM PROPOSING ALL THIS TO BE SURTAX FUNDING. BECAUSE WE HAVE EARMARKED LIKE $500,000 FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS COMING STRAIGHT

OUT OF SURTAX. >> OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS IN FRONT OF US. I THINK IT'S GREAT WHEN YOU HAVE A PUBLICLY BID ITEM AND YOU CAN GET A UNIT PRICE CONTRACTOR TO DIVERSIFY OUR RESOURCES WITHOUT A DOUBT EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THEY DO A LOT OF WORK HERE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THEY HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DO LIVE IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY.

BUT WHEN WE STARTED PUTH THE SURTAX ITEM WE STARTED PROMOTING -- WE DIDN'T PROMOTE WE EDUCATED FOLKS ON THE SURTAX VOTE ITEM YOU KNOW ONE OF OUR WORRIES AND OUR CONCERNS WAS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO EVEN DO THE WORK BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG COMMITMENT AND A LOT OF MONEY COMING IN THAT WE'RE JUST NOT READY FOR.

WE WESTERN READY FOR IT THREE YEARS AGO.

I CAN REMEMBER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH JACK WE WERE KIND OF SCRATCHING OUR HEAD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO GET ALL THIS WORK DONE TO IMPROVE OUR CITY AND GET THESE STREETS RESURFACED.

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THERE'S A LARGE LIST OF JOBS THAT JACK HAS PUT TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS OF JUST RESURFACING PROJECTS.

SO MY QUESTION EACH PROJECT ARE THEY GOING TO DO A TAKEOFF AND GIVE YOU A BUDGETED AMOUNT.

>> YES. >> JUST A BUDGET FOR US TO APPROVE THEN FROM THERE YOU ARE GOING TO MANAGE THE

CONTRACT? >> YES.

OKAY. THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU. >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

JACK. >> IMMOVE FOR THE APPROVAL

OF ITEM 11 F. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. Resolution No. 21-R56 and Quasi-Judicial Hearing – A hearing to allow the owners and/or parties of interest in the property identified as 513 N 18th Street to show cause why the structure located on the premises should not be condemned and demolished.]

>>> THE NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION 21-456 THIS IS A RESOLUTION AND QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING FOR A RESOLUTION TO DETERMINING THAT A CERTAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 513 NORTH 18ING STREET.

FORT PIERCE IS AN UNSAFE AND NUISANCE THAT THAT SAID BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE DEMOLISHED DECLARING THE PARTIES OF INTEREST WERE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE. ACCORDING THE -- ORDERING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO BE REMOVED AND PLACE A LIEN IF PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE READ OUR RULES AND GUIDELINES FOR

THAT PLEASE MS. EARLY. >> ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE. WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAW MAKING ACTIVITIES BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION IMPLIES LAWS AND POLICIES IS HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL STANDARDS. QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING. QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THEREFORE, COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS.

THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS FOR

THIS ITEM? >> WE HAVE MET THE

ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS. >> WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON HAVE YOU HAD EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS? >> YES, MA'AM I DO BELIEVE I

HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON?

>> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> WE NOW SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES PLEASE. WOULD ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT

HAND. >> YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE REQUEST FOR CONDEMNATION AND DEMOLITION OF 513 NORTH 18TH STREET.

FOR BRIEF HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY IT WAS INITIALLY CONDEMNED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BACK IN 2015.

AT THAT TIME THE BUILDING WAS SECURED IN LIEU OF HAVING THE PROPERTY DEMOLISHED.

THEN IN JANUARY, 2020, CODE ENFORCEMENT DURING A ROUTINE INSPECTION SAW THAT THE ROOF STARTED TO COLLAPSE AND THE BUILDING WAS UNSECURED. SO WE REQUESTED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION WHICH THEY DID.

WE PULLED THE AGENDA ITEM TO ALLOW THE NEW OWNER THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE POSITIVE ACTION TO REHABILITATE THE PROPERTY. SINCE THEN, THE PROPERTY HAS BECOME UNSECURE AGAIN. THE BACKDOOR IS OPENED AGAIN. PRIOR TO THE HEARINGS HAPPENING TONIGHT I CALLED AND LEFT A VOICE MAIL FOR THE OWNER BUT I DID NOT RECEIVE A RETURN PHONE CALL.

AND IN PREPARING FOR TONIGHT'S HEARINGDY NOTE THAT THERE WAS A BUILDING PERMIT SUBMITTED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, TO RESHINGLE THE ROOF.

THAT PERMIT HAS BEEN REJECTED.

THE PLANS WERE INSUFFICIENT. THE ROOF PERMIT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SATISFY THE CONDEMNATION AND ONCE IT'S READY TO BE ISSUED IT'S CURRENTLY REJECTED IT WILL ISSUED WITH A PERMIT CONDITION THAT THIS PERMIT DOES NOT SATISFY CONDEMNATION CASE WHICH IS WHAT IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. IT IS A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY. IT IS VACANT.

THERE'S BEEN NO EFFORT TO DO ANY TYPE OF HE HAS BEENATION. THERE IS NO CURRENT KODIAKS AT THE PROPERTY AND IT IS NOT HISTORIC.

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THERE ARE NO UTILITIES, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ONE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION AS I MENTIONED.

WE DID DO A TITLE SEARCH TWO ADDITIONAL PARTIES WERE IDENTIFIED THEY WERE ALSO PROVIDED NOTICE OF THIS HEARING. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSE FROM ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL PARTIES.

THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION. THIS WHY WAS THE SECURING OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DONE BACK IN FEBRUARY.

THIS IS THE BACK. THIS BOARD HERE IS HAS BEEN PULLED OFF AND THERE'S ACCESS TO THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AGAIN. THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE ROOF DAMAGE HERE AND HERE WHERE THE ROOF HAS STARTED TO COLLAPSE. THIS IS AN INTERIOR SHOT OF THE BUILDING. THIS OVER HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SUNLIGHT IS COMING THROUGH THESE ARE THE HOLES IN THE ROOF THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE. JUST A PICTURE FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION SHOWING THE INTERIOR ALL THE INTERIOR MEMBERS WERE REMOVED.

THIS IS ANOVER HEAD SHOT OF THE AREA JUST SHOWING THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA.

THEN IF THE COMMISSION FEELS THERE'S SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CONDEMNATION OF THIS STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO REMOVAL WE CAN ADOPT THE RESOLUTION 21-456 YOU WILLS HAVE THE OPTION TO AMEND IT OR DENY IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

IF YOU YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF WE WOULD PROVIDE THERE'S 30 DAYS FOR AN APPEAL.

NOTICE IS PROVIDED TO THE OWNER FOR 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.

IT IS NOT HISTORIC SO WE DON'T NEED TO ADDRESS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. THEN PRIOR TO ANY ACTION TAKEN ONE FINAL 15 DAY NOTICE IS SENT OUT PRIOR TO

DEMOLITION. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE INTERIOR PICTURE. THERE WERE TWO OR THREE.

THIS IS A CONCRETE BLOCK STRUCTURE THAT LOOKS LIKE A

DIRT FLOOR IS THAT ACCURATE? >> CORRECT.

>> SO THEY ONLY APPLIED FOR A SHINGLE RESHINGLE PERMIT.

THAT WAS IT. >> YES, SIR.

>> NO ENGINEERING, NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUSSES REMOVING?

>> NO, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF.

>> WERE WE THE ONES WHO BOARDED IT UP? NO, MA'AM, THAT WAS THE OWNER.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY SO IF IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE. I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

>> MADAM MAYOR JUST REAL QUICK COUPLE COMMENTS.

DIDN'T HEAR OBVIOUSLY WE HEARD STAFF'S TESTIMONY TONIGHT. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE COME FORWARD WITH SOME KIND OF DESIGN OR PLAN TO REINFORCE THE STRUCTURE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I HAVE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO YOU KNOW WHEN A STRUCTURE HAS THE ABILITY WITH YOU KNOW I'LL JUST CALL IT THE BONES OF THE STRUCTURE DOESN'T SEEM TOO, TOO BAD. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW EVERY WOOD ELEMENT OF THIS HOUSE IS JUST GONE.

IT'S UNIQUE THAT PICTURE SHOWS DIRT FLOORS BECAUSE YOU COULD ACTUALLY CREATE SOME KIND OF A CONCRETE FLOOR SYSTEM IN THERE AND REHAB THIS STRUCTURE.

BUT THEY DIDN'T COME IN WITH THAT KIND OF AN APPLICATION.

SO, IF THEY WOULD HAVE I WOULD PROBABLY BE CHANGING MY IDEAS OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS TONIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE SEEN PICTURES LIKE THIS MANY, MANY TIMES IN MY DAY.

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THAT'S A STEM WALL AND FLOOR THAT WAS UP ON JOISTS ABOVE WHERE YOU SEE THE LITTLE VENTS ON THE BOTTOM THERE. PROBABLY ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS PLUMBING AND EVERYTHING ELSE WENT UNDER ANYTHING THAT THE HOUSE.

WE'VE ALL BEEN THIS ONE AT LEAST.

I USED TO LIVE IN ONE. AWNING WINDOWS WHICH IS A NO-NO. SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO COME IN THERE AND REMOVE WHATEVER WOOD IS THERE AND REPLACE IT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE CONCRETE STRUCTURE. I'M SURE THAT THE NEW OWNERS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF.

BUT YOU CAN'T LEAVE TLURS LIKE THIS.

THEY'RE UNSAFE FOR THE PUBLIC.

IF I SAW ON THE MAP WHEN YOU WENT REALLY QUICKLY BY ARE WE THE OWNERS? WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THE LOT

NEXT DOOR. >> YES.

>> SO WE'RE NEIGHBORS. IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO MARKET AND DO SOMETHING WITH PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE WHICH WE USE FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS WHEN WE'RE SITTING NEXT TO SOMETHING THAT'S

UNSAFE. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

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>> SO, MADAM MAYOR, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS I HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THIS COUPLE.

THEY ACTUALLY CAME TO SEE ME AND WANTED TO BE OPEN DOORS.

WE TALKED ABOUT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE TO COME HERE TONIGHT TO SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. I LEFT THE MEETING WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE FULLY INFORMED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO TO SHOW THEIR DILIGENCE OF MOVING FORWARD. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN CONTACT. SHE CALLED TODAY.

I TALKED TO THEM FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.

NO ONE -- NONE OF THOSE ACTION STEPS WERE TAKEN TO EVEN, I AGREE IT'S A GOOD STRUCTURE YOU COULD DO SOME THINGS. SOME THINGS I WILL NOT SAY THAT WERE SHARED WITH ME ABOUT SOME OF STEPS THAT WERE TAKEN AND ASKED FOR DOCUMENTATION OF THAT STUFF BRING IT IN SO SO THAT I I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. THIS HEARING AND THE LEVEL OF IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SPECULATION.

IT'S COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN MET AS A RESULT HERE.

I THINK IT PUTS US IN A SITUATION SO WITH THAT MADAM MAYOR I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT ON RESOLUTION MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-R

56. >> SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> MADAM MAYOR. IN I CAN JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT IN YEAR'S PAST WHEN WE HAVE DONE THIS AFTER THIS HAPPENS WE GET THROUGH THE PROCESS JUST WANTED TO REMIND STAFF MAYBE LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS.

WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD ONCE GE INITIATE THIS PROCESS THAT TO RECUPERATE THE FUNDS IF SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE POSITIVE DIRECTION FOR US TO BE REIMBURSED THAT WE INITIATE THAT NEXT PROCESS. SO MS. EARLY SHE'S HEARD

THOSE CONVERSATIONS. >> MS. EARLY YOU KNOW THAT

PROCESS. >> WELL AWARE OF THE GOALS OF THE CITY TO DO THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I SPOKE ABOUT MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO. WE'RE WORKING ON TAKING STEPS WE HAVE CERTAIN PROPERTIES IN MIND THAT HAVE

BEEN IDENTIFIED. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND THE OTHER ONE ABOUT THIS THE REASON I BRING THAT UP THE MAP THAT YOU ASKED FOR COMMISSIONER THIS IS MORE MARKETABLE TO THE CITY ACTUALLY IT'S MORE MARKETABLE ACTUALLY THIS LANDOWNER IF THEY CLEAR UP ALL THEIR POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH LIENS THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE DOUBLE UP ON THEIR LOT SIZE HERE FOR ANOTHER VENTURE LATER ON.

>> OR BUILD TWO HOUSES. SORRY.

I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

>> SPEAKING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> THANK YOU. >>> ALL RIGHTY.

LET'S SEE WE HAVE A -- >> WE'RE DONE I'M READY TOWED RAT NEXT IDEA. THANK YOU.

[a. Resolution No. 21-R53 determining that the structure located at 1822 S 32nd Street (carport only) is unsafe and has been condemned in accordance with the International Property Maintenance Code as adopted by the City Commission. In accordance with the International Property Maintnance Code, the Building Official declared the structure an imminent danger and ordered its immediate demolition. Per the Rules of Procedure for Condemnation and Demolition, when such an action is taken, the procedures for demolition shall commence as soon as reasonably possible after the fact. A hearing to determine this matter is scheduled before the City Commission on November 1, 2021.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-453 A RESOLUTION TO DETERMINING A CERTAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1822 SOUTH 32ND STREETCAR PORT ONLY IN FORT PIERCE IN ORDER IS UNSAFE AND A NUISANCE THAT CONSTITUTES THEY MUST SHOW WHY WHY THE STRUCTURE SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN DEMOLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCES OF FORT PIERCE NOTIFYING ALL PARTIES FOR FAILURE TO ACT AND THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021 AT 6:00 P.M. AND THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBER LOCATED 100 NORTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 AND PROVIDE FOR NOTICE FOR ALL PARTIES.

>> SO THIS IS ESTABLISHING A DATE FOR A HEARING, CORRECT?

IS THERE A MOTION. >> MAYOR MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AND ESTABLISH THE HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 1ST,

2021. >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Resolution No. 21-R54 authorizing the execution of a quitclaim deed releasing a right of reverter and mineral rights for the property located at Sun Citrus Blvd. and formerly known as the Hammond Road Landfill. ]

>> NEXT RESOLUTION 21-454 RESOLUTION THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A QUIT CLAIM DEAD RELEASING A RIGHT MINERAL RIGHTS FOR THE

FORMER HAMMOND ROAD LANDFILL. >> MS. EARLY BELIEVE THIS IS

YOUR? >> YES.

HE SAID A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT SHORT. BASICALLY, THIS PROPERTY WAS A ACCRUE FOR SALE BY THE CITY COMMISSION IN APRIL OF 1990. A WARRANTY DEED WAS EXECUTED IN JANUARY OF 1991 SO NOW WE'RE 30 YEARS OUT FROM THE

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EXECUTION DATE OF THAT DEED. THAT DEED CONTAINED A RIGHT OF REVERTER. I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY NOW COUNCIL FOR THE SELLER AND THE BUYER OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WHICH IS NO LONGER CITY PROPERTY AND ASKED IF THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD CONSIDER SIGNING A DEED TO RELEASE THE RIGHT OF REVERTER.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM A POINT OF VIEW OF WHAT DOES STATE LAW SAY PURSUANT TO SECTION 689.

RIGHT OF REVERTER IS BAKLEY NO LONGER ENFORCEABLE 21 YEARS AFTER THE DATE OF EXECUTION.

SO THAT'S WHY MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THE RIGHT BECAUSE IN MY ESTIMATION IT'S LIKELY UNENFORCEABLE IN A COURT OF LAW.

>> WE HAVE NO INTEREST THEY HAVE AN INTEREST AND THIS CLEARS IT UP THE TITLE. CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> ALL RIGHTY.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION OR MOTION.

>> MADAM MAYOR I PROVE TO A-- I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >>

[c. Resolution No. 21-R55 determining that the structure located at 2202 Avenue I is unsafe, has been condemned in accordance with the International Property Maintenance Code as adopted by the City Commission and should be demolished. A hearing to determine this matter is scheduled before the City Commission on November 1, 2021.]

RESOLUTION TO DETERMINING THAT A CERTAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2202 AVENUE I IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA IS UNSAFE AND NUISANCE THAT CONSTITUTES A MENACE TO THE BUSINESS, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALL PARTIES OF INTEREST MUST SHOW CAUSE WHY THIS STRUCTURE SHOULD NOT BE DEMOLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCES OF FORT PIERCE AND NOTIFYING ALL PARTIES FOR FAILURE TO ACT AND THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021 AT 6:00 P.M. AND THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS LOCATED AT NORTH 100 NORTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 FORT PIERCE AND PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO

ALL PARTIES. >> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> VOTE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>> WE WILL BE BUSY NOVEMBER 1ST, RIGHT.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> I'M OUT OF TOWN. [LAUGHTER]

>> NOW WE MOVE ON TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> IF THERE'S ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND MISS COX WILL GIVE YOU ALY SECOND WARNING.

>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE REBECCA GEARA.

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I COME HERE TONIGHT I GAVE NOTICE THAT I WILL BE LEAVING THE CITY BUT I WANTED TO TAKE THESE FEW MOMENTS TO THANK YOU AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT AN HONOR, WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT HAS BEEN TO SERVE THIS STEREO.

I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM MR. MIMMS AND MS. COX AND MISS TONYA AND EVERYONE HERE.

>> AND YES. >> AND ALL OF YOU AS WELL.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M NERVOUS I DO THIS EVERY DAY.

BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE I'M SO EMOTIONAL WHAT A BLESSING IT HAS BEEN TO BE HERE.

I WILL FOREVER TREASURE THE MOMENTS THAT I'VE HAD HERE.

ALL THE TIMES THAT WE SPENT DISCUSSING SO MANY ITEMS AND WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT IS. I CONTINUE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE I'M PROUD TO BE A RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I HOPE TO STILL BE INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITH THE CITY.