Nov 01, 2021 City Commission Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING MONDAY NOVEMBER 1, 2021.

PLEASE STANDS FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR PINKY HENLEY WITH NEW LIFE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP CHURCH AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>>> AS I PRAY TO MY GODFATHER IN THE NAME OF JESUS WE COME TONIGHT AND WE COME IN THE MOST HONORABLE MANNER THAT WE KNOW HOW AS WE COME BEFORE YOU WE BELIEVE GOD THAT ALL OF THE PROMISES THAT YOU HAVE MADE THEY WILL BE FULFILLED. AS WE STAND NOW UNITED OH GOD WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.

A DAY WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE NOR WILL WE SEE AGAIN. BUT WE'RE GRATEFUL ASK WE'RE THANKFUL. LORD WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE HAVE YOU ENDOWED NOW TO MAKE DECISIONS ON OUR BEHALF.

WE PRAY GOD THAT THEY WILL LOOK BEYOND THE HORIZON AND SEE THE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE. WE'RE IN A CITY, GOD, THAT RIGHT NOW IS BOOMING BUT THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING. WE'RE IN A CITY, GOD, WHERE OTHERS ARE BEING BLESSED WHILE OTHERS FEEL THEY'RE BEING LEFT BEHIND. BUT WE ARE TRUSTING AND BELIEVING GOD THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE ON THEIR BEHALF THAT WE WILL BE LIFTED UP IN THE NAME OF JESUS. FATHER WE THANK YOU RIGHT NOW FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED, GOD, WILL BE IN THE SAFETY FOR US. WE SAY KEEP YOUR ARMS OF PROTECTION AROUND THEM. SHIELD THEM FROM ALL HURT, ARM OR DANGER. AND LORD, I'M PRAYING I'M PRAYING SO HARD FOR UNITY, GOD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT DENOMINATION WE BELONG TO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT POLITICAL AFFILIATION WE BELONG TO I'M PRAYING FOR UNITY FOR OUR CITY. I'M PRAYING GOD THAT WE WILL NOT JUST BE A BEACON UPON THE HILL BUT GOD WE'LL BE A LIGHT TO THE PATHWAYS OF THESE DO NOT KNOW THE WAY.

I'M THANKING RIGHT NOW AND I'M BELIEVING AND TRUSTING GOD THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE ABOUT BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF YOUR PEOPLE.

FOR YOU SAID IN YOUR WORD THAT IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME WOULD HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY SEEK MY FAITH AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS YOU WOULD HEAL THE LAND YOU YOU WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT DIRT YOU WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT GROUND BUT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE THOUGHTS AND THE BEHAVIORS OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US SO GOD WE ARE BELIEVING NOW THAT ALL NATION ALL THE NOMINATIONS GOD BECAUSE WE WANT THIS CITY TO BE THE BEST CITY THAT SITS IN THE UNITED STATES WE THANK YOU THAT YOU WILL OPEN UP AND PULL OUT BLESSINGS OH GOD THAT RESOURCE ALSO COME TO THIS PLACE THAT YOUR PEOPLE, THAT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CREATED WILL BE BLESSED. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT WORK IN THE CITY. WE THANK YOU LORD LIKE NEVER BEFORE WE ARE BELIEVING GOD THAT YOU WILL BREATHE ON US.

YOU WILL BREATHE ON US AND YOUR BREATH WILL BRING LIFE.

IF IN JESUS NAME THAT I PRAY AND BELIEVE EVERY WORD.

AMEN. >> AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>>> SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[0. Letter from Cathy Telese expressing her gratitude and appreciation to Paul Thomas, Building Director, for the guidance and coordination efforts received for recent building applications.]

>> FOLLOWING LERD WILL BE KEPT ON FILE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE KATHY TALISI EXPRESSING HER GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO PAUL THOMAS BUILDING DIRECTOR FOR THE GUIDANCE AND COORDINATION EFFORTS RECEIVED FOR RECEIVING THE RECENT

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA. >> IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEMS? IF NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> VOTE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

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>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 21-035 Establishing the Preserve at Savannah Lakes Community Development District. SECOND READING]

>>> IT IS ONTO OUR LEGISLATIVE HEARING FOR ORDINANCE 21-035 ESTABLISHING THE PRESERVE AT SAVANNAH LAKES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190 FLORIDA STATUTES NAMING THE DISTRICT DESCRIBING THE EXTERNAL BOUNDARIES DESIGNATING FIVE PERSONS TO SERVE AS THE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF THE DISTRICT'S BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

PROVIDING NOTICE FOR REQUIREMENTS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE NO ONE ILLS CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MADAM MAYOR MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Resolution No. 21-R63 and Quasi-Judicial Hearing – A hearing to allow the owners and/or parties of interest in the property identified as 1822 S 32nd Street to show cause why the structure located on the premises should not have been condemned and demolished.]

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ALL RIGHTY.

MISS EARLY WILL YOU READ THE RULES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS. WE HAVE TWO TONIGHT SO IF EVERYBODY WILL PAY ATTENTION SHE WILL ONLY HAVE TO PAY

THEM ONCE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE. WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAW MAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION IMPLIES -- APPLIES THOSE LAWS AND POLICIES IT'S HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS. THE PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION HEARING.

EXCUSE ME, THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING.

QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON EVIDENCE. THEREFORE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS.

THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DYESS THE CITY ATTORNEY GENERAL DURING THE HEARING. IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK PLEASE PROVIDE THEM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. THANK YOU.

>> MADAM CLERK HAVE THE ADVERTISING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM.

>> NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEM HAVE BEEN MET.

>> AT THE TIME WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATIONS.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>> NO MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> NO, MA'AM.

AT THIS TIME WOULD YOU LOOIC TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

THANK YOU. >> PLEASE PROCEED.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU LISTENED TO THE READING BY THE CITY CLERK THE PRESENTATION WE'RE GIVING YOU TODAY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OUR STANDARD DEMOLITION AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT AS WE GO. THIS PROPERTY WAS CONDEMNED IN MAY OF 202021. THERE'S TWO CONDEMNATIONS AT THIS LOCATION ONE FOR THE HOUSE ONE WAS FOR THE CARPORT DUE TO THE CONDITION OF THE CARPORT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DID RECOMMEND DOING A NOTICE OF UNSAFE BUILDING FOR DEMOLITION WHILE THE PROPERTY, THE MAIN HOUSE DOES HAVE AN UNSAFE BUILDING FOR REHABILITATION.

SO THE HOUSE ITSELF IS STILL ELIGIBLE TO BE REHABBED.

THE CARPORT WAS IDENTIFIED TO BE DEMOLISHED.

IN SEPTEMBER, 2021, WE RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THE CARPORT HAD COLLAPSED. THEN DUE TO ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PAUL THOMAS OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL SIDE AN AFFIDAVIT OF IMMEDIATE DANGER. IN THIS CASE WE HAVE REMOVED THAT STRUCTURE IT'S JUST THE CARPORT THAT GOT REMOVED.

NOW WHAT WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOWED ALL OF OUR STEPS PROPERLY.

SO THE CARPORT WAS ACTUALLY DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY VENDOR ON SEPTEMBER 28TH OF THIS YEAR.

SECTION 5 OF THE CONDEMNATION PROCEDURES SAYS WHEN THE OPINION OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL THERE'S IMMINENT DANGER HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ORDER IT DEMOLISHED. THEN THE LAST SECTION WHEN SUCH ACTION IS TAKEN THE PROCEDURES FOR DEMOLITION OUTLINED IN SECTION 2 SHALL COMMENCE AS SOON AS REASONABLY POSSIBLE AFTER THE FACT WHICH IS WHY WE'RE

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SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

REGARDING NOTICE IN MAY, 2021, THE NOTICE OF UNSAFE AVAILABILITY WAS SENT TO THE OWNER.

IT WAS RETURNED TEMPORARILY AWAY UNABLE TO FORWARD.

IN JULY, THE NOTICE RESENT BY REGULAR U.S. POSTAL AND THAT WAS RETURNED NOT DELIVERABLE AS ADDRESSED UNABLE TO FORWARD. UPON RECEIPT OF THE TITLE SEARCH I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY ADDITIONAL RESEARCH -- ADDRESSES. I DID SEARCH.

I FOLLOWED THOSE UP THEY'RE NOT KNOWN ADDRESSES.

AND THE CITY CLERK SENT NOTICE FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING BOTH CERTIFIED AND REGULAR MAIL AND ALL MAIL HAS BEEN RETURNED UNCLAIMED. SO WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SUCCESSFUL ATTEMPT AT CONTACTING THIS OWNER.

IT IS A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT OCCUPIED. THERE'S BEEN NO ACTIONS BY THE OWNER TO TRY AND ADDRESS ANY OF THE VIOLATIONS.

WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE LOT CLEARING CASE AT THIS LOCATION. IT IS THERE'S NO UTILITIES.

NO BUILDING PERMITS AND AS I MENTIONED WE DID COMPLETE THE TITLE SEARCH AT THIS LOCATION.

THIS IS THE BEFORE PHOTO WHEN WE STARTED IN MAY.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE CARPORT COLLAPSED IN SEPTEMBER. THEN IT WAS REMOVED.

SO THE MAIN STRUCTURE IS STILL STANDING WITH JUST THE CARPORT BEING REMOVED AT THIS TIME.

THIS IS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ABOUT 125 FEET AWAY.

I KNOW WHEN I WAS A TOMBOY, IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF FUN TO PLAY AROUND.

SO THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE.

>> WHICH PARCEL IS IT. >> THE PARCEL IS THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE. SO YOU HAVE ABOUT 50 FEET HERE AND A ROADWAY SO IT'S ABOUT 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL. RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

SO FOR THAT REASON IS WHY PAUL THOMAS DID DECLARE IT AN IMMINENT DANGER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ACTIONS AGAIN ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IF SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE WAS SUPPORTED TO THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION.

IF YOU FEEL THAT WE DID NOT PRESENT SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

AND THE STEPS FOR THIS POINT THERE IS A 30 DAY APPEAL WINDOW AS ALWAYS AND THEN IF NO APPEAL IS RECEIVED AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE INVOICE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER PLACING A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

>> JUST SO I'M CLEAR. WE WOULD SENT SOMETHING TO THE PERSON THAT'S NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE YET, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE CARPORT.

>> RIGHT. SO THE STRUCTURE MAY COME BEFORE US AT SOME POINT SINCE YOU CAN'T REACH THE

OWNER, ETC. >> CORRECT.

WE DID IDENTIFIED THERE'S FIVE TAX HOLDERS THEY WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE ISSUE BUT AGAIN WITH THAT TITLE SEARCH I FOUND TWO ADDRESSES IN VERO THAT HAD BEEN LISTED FOR THE OWNER AND BOTH OF THEM ARE NOW OLD ADDRESSES ALSO. WE DID MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

>> ONE OTHER. THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU SAID WE ALREADY ACTIVE ON LOT CLEARING SO THAT'S LIKE THE

SHRUBBERY CUTBACK. >> THE NOTICE IS DONE.

THE WORK HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET.

OWNERS ARE PEOPLE WHO WHO OWN THEIR NAMES HAVE BEEN NOTICED ON MANY CONDEMNATIONS.

I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO THAT.

>> WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE WE JUST RECEIVED THE TITLE SEARCH BACK. THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO THE BURDEN FALLS ON THE REGISTERED OWNER. ALL RIGHTY.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE ELSE STAND UP TO BE SWORN IN.

IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? IF NOT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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>> WELL, I HAVE HEARD NO TESTIMONY TODAY THAT WOULD PREVENT ME FROM MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[c. Resolution No. 21-R64 and Quasi-Judicial Hearing – A hearing to allow the owners and/or parties of interest in the property identified as 2201 Avenue I to show cause why the structure located on the premises should not be condemned and demolished.]

PROVIDING FOR APPEAL, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE OF ALL PARTIES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU. IT'S AT 2202 ON THE SCREEN BECAUSE ON THE AGENDA IT'S 2001.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

RIGHT STRUCTURE. >> IT'S 2202.

I'M SORRY I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TYPO.

>> THAT'S FINE. MISS COX HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

>> WE HAVE MET THE ADVERTISING AND NOTICE

REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. >> WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER G. JOHNSON.

>> NO MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. >>> WOULD THROUGHIC TO SWEAR

IN THE WITNESSES. >> WOULD ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT

HAND. >> PLEASE PROCEED.

>>> SO MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS WE ARE HERE FOR 2202 AVENUE I. FOR A CONDEMNATION AND DEMOLITION HEARING. THIS CASE WAS INITIATED IN MAY 2019, AT THAT TIME THE BUILDING INSPECTOR RECOMMENDED AN AFFIDAVIT OF UNSAFE BUILDING WITH THE OPTION TO REHABILITATE THIS STRUCTURE.

IN JULY OF THAT SAME YEAR, THE OWNER APPLIED FOR A FENCE PERMIT TO REPAIR BUT THE PERMIT DID EXPIRE WITHOUT ANY WORK BEING DONE AND NO OTHER PERMIT ACTIVITY HAS TAKEN PLACE AT THIS TIME.

DUE TO CONTINUED DETERIORATION, CODE ENFORCEMENT REQUESTED THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DO A FOLLOW UP INSPECTION JULY OF THIS YEAR WHICH THEY DID AND DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL DETERIORATION THEY CHANGED THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE STRUCTURE BE DEMOLISHED. AGAIN, NOTICE OF THE UNSAFE BUILDING WAS SENT CERTIFIED MAIL AND RETURNED UNCLAIMED.

IT WAS THEN SENT REGULAR U.S. POSTAL BUT THAT MAIL WAS NOT RETURNED. I DID NOT RECEIVE THAT BACK.

BUT I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY CONTACT FROM THE OWNER EITHER. AND IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, A TITLE SEARCH WAS CONDUCTED WE WERE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFIED -- IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL ADDRESSES FOR THE OWNER TWO. ADDITIONAL PARTIES WERE IDENTIFIED BOTH WERE SENT NOTICE.

THROUGH TAX CERTIFICATES. >> AND AGAIN THE CITY CLERK SENT NOTICE OF THIS HEARING BOTH CERTIFIED AND REGULAR MAIL AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE OWNER.

IT IS A NONHOMESTEADED PROPERTY IT'S NOT OCCUPIED AND IT'S VACANT. THERE'S BEEN NO ACTIONS SINCE 2019 TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPTS TO REHAB THE PROPERTY. AGAIN WE HAVE AN ACTIVE LOT CLEARING CASE. WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CASE FROM 2019 ALSO WHERE THE FENCE MAINTENANCE WHICH IS WHAT THAT PERMIT WAS PULLED FOR. IT'S NOT A HISTORIC PROPERTY THERE'S UTILITIES. -- REHABILITATION WAS ISSUED. THIS IS THE AFTER.

THIS IS WHY CODE -- INSPECTION.

THIS IS THE REMAINING INTERIOR.

SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S MARKED IN YELLOW.

ALL WITH THE SAME ADDRESSES. AGAIN I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND ANY ADDITIONAL ADDRESSES IT'S A P.O. BOX.

SO HE DOES ACTUALLY OWN ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA. AGAIN WE ARE ALSO RIGHT NEAR A SCHOOL. IT'S NOT AS CLOSE BUT IT'S STILL IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A SCHOOL.

WE HAVE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ACROSS THE STREET.

>> SO, IF SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED BY THE CITY TO SUPPORT ITS RECOMMENDATION YOU CAN ADOPT RESOLUTION 21-464. OF COURSE YOU CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT OR DENY IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

THERE IS A 30 DAY APPEAL WINDOW FOLLOWING WHICH A 15 DAY NOTICE TO DEMOLISH WOULD BE SENT FOLLOWED BY THE

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>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WE KNOW THE HOUSES THAT'S OWNED BY THE PERSON AND THAT KEN EGG GOINGS HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE TO ANYTHING WE

HAVE ON FILE. >> NO, SIR THE REGULAR MAIL WAS SENT AND NOT RETURNED. THE CERTIFIED MAIL WAS RETURN. YOU CAN MAKE AN ASSUMPTION

THAT IT WAS RECEIVED. >> IF WE APPROVE THIS GOING FORWARD THEN IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED, RIGHT.

THEN THE LIEN WILL BE PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. FOR THE COST OF THE EXPENSES OF DEMOLITION DO. WE HAVE AN ACTIVE LOT CLEARING? BECAUSE I KNOW THIS CORNER

VERY WELL? >> WILL IS AN ACTIVE LOT CLEARING ON THE PROPERTY. IT WILL GET DONE IF THE DEMOLITION IS APPROVED THE WHOLE LOT WILL GO.

>> I GOTCHA. >> THERE'S AN OVERGROWTH OF

TREES IN THAT AREA. >> THERE'S ACTUALLY A TREE INSIDE THE BUILDING, TOO. THE PICTURE DIDN'T COME OUT REAL CLEAR. THERE IS A TREE GROGEN SIDE

THE BUILDING. >> I WAS ACTUALLY WATCHED

THE ROOF COLLAPSE. >> I GO BY IT ALL THE TIME.

THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> JUST A GENERAL QUESTION MAYBE OUR ATTORNEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS.

WE'RE TAKING SOMEONE'S PROPERTY WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH NOTICE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN THAT THE CITY HAS FOUND IT TO BE UNSAFE AND WE'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH IT AND TAKE IT AWAY.

I'M JUST WONDERING ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU MISS TONYA, AS FAR AS A CHALLENGE

TO THIS AND A LATER DATE? >> COMMISSIONER, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER PIRANHA -- PERONA.

SHE HAS BEEN VERY -- ALL WE CAN DO IS SEND THE NOTICE.

IF THERE'S NO RESPONSE THERE'S NO RESPONSE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

THAT PROPERTY IS A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND -- I FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME LET'S PUT THAT IT WAY.

>> I NEEDED TO HEAR THOSE WORDS.

I KNOW YOU WOULD SAY THEM. IT'S A LITTLE ERIE FOR US TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM SOMEONE EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT PROPERLY KEEPING THE PROPERTY UP TO A CERTAIN SAFETY STANDARD. THERE'S A TIME WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO HAVE TO STEP IN AND YOU KNOW, TAKE IT INTO THEIR OWN HANDS TO MAKE IT SAFE.

IFLING THATTED WE WOULD BE WELL WITHIN OUR RIGHT AND SUCCESSFUL. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A 30 DAY WINDOW THAT IF ANY PROPERTY OWNER GETS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES THIS EVENING.

THIS CASE WHY A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN WHICH CASE THE PROPERTY DEMOLISHED ITSELF BASED ON ITS CONDITION.

>> WE DON'T POST ANY TIME. >> NO, THERE IS.

I WAS THINKING THE NEIGHBORS WHO KNOW EVERYTHING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORS THAT'S PART OF THE REASON YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR SO YOU CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU PROTECT EVERYBODY. SOMETIMES BADGER EVERYBODY.

IT NOT PART OF THE POWER POINT THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT. THEY WOULD NOT KNOW OF THE MAILINGS THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY KNOW.

BUT IF THEY SEE THE SIGNS SAY SAY OH MY GOD BOB IS UP IN NORTH CAROLINA. I'LL SEND THEM AN E-MAIL THAT TYPE OF THING. I'M JUST HAPPY THAT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN AND MY ATTORNEY FEELS COMFORTABLE. RIGHT.

>> WE I WONDER IF HE LIVES IN ANY OF THESE OR IF HE GETS HIS MAIL SOMEPLACE ELSE.

>> EVERY PROPERTY HAS A P.O. BOX AS A MAILING ADDRESS.

>> THE SAME P.O. BOX. EVERY ADDRESS I WAS ABLE TO

FIND HAS THE SAME P.O. BOX. >> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT, MADAM MAYOR. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME TONIGHT THAT THIS IS HAPPENING THESE PROPERTY CLEARINGS. ARE WE AT SOME POINT MAYBE I

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THAT HAVE LATER COME BACK TO US ASKING FOR A WAY OFING OF THEIR LIENS THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A WHILE VACANT. SOMETHING IS GOING ON ARE RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT WORK.

WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED AT THE COST OF THE CITY WE'LL PAY FOR THAT, ETC.

BUT THEN I ALSO SEE PEOPLE COMING BACK ASKING FOR LIEN WAIVING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME DATA HERE TO LOOK AT THIS TREND OR PATTERN IF POSSIBLE? I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE DEMOLISHED PARTICULARLY IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU CAN JUST SAY THESE ARE THE 10 HOUSE, FIVE HOUSES, THREE HOUSES OR WHATEVER THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR ME AS A NEWER COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I WANT TO START TRACKING THIS. ALTHOUGH ANOTHER ONE ON 32ND STREET THIS ONE IS ON 22ND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AROUND HERE THAT WE HAVE DEMOLISHED I'M CURIOUS. JUST TO BE CLEAR.

>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'VE DEMOLISHED.

JUST GIVE ME THE LIST OF WHAT WE'VE DEMOLISHED THAT

WOULD BE FINE. >> AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED EMPHASIZED THIS BECAUSE WE DID WANT TO DO

THIS. >> IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A STATUS REPORT.

BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE WON AT A MEETING OR SO.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE. >> WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYBODY'S PROPERTY. WE REALLY WANT THEM TO KEEP IT UP. WE LIVE IN AND IT TAKE CARE OF IT OR WHATEVER. WE DON'T WANT GET TO THIS POINT. NOW THAT WE'RE AT THIS POINT WE DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE TO SUFFER AND OUR CITY TO HAVE TO SUFFER. OKAY.

THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MADAM MAYOR I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

[a. Resolution 21-R62 providing notice of polling places for the December 7, 2021 special election.]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 21-462 THE RESOLUTION OF FORT PIERCE, FORLD FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR A DESIGNATED POLLING PLACES FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 7, 2021 AND PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE? >> THIS IS SIMPLY THE RESOLUTION THAT IDENTIFIES ALL THE PRECINCTS AND I HAVE TO PLACE THE AD IN THE NEWSPAPER.

>> I ACTUALLY SAW THE AD IN THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT THE CANVASSING BOARD. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CANVASSING BOARD. IT'S ALL COUNTY OFFICIALS SO ARE CITY OFFICIALS EVER ASKED TO BE PART OF THE

CANVASSING BOARD? >> THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION SHE DOES THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION.

SO IT'S NOT US. >> EVEN THOUGH PORT ST. LUCIE THEIR OFFICIALS ARE THE CANVASSING BOARD AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COUNTY OFFICIALS ARE.

>> WE CAN EXPLORE IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE FUTURE. WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE

THAT. >> I WAS JUST WONDERING.

PROBABLY THAT'S BECAUSE WE WE HAND OFF THE CONDUCT OF OUR ELECTIONS TO THE TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS BUT SO DOES PORT ST. LUCIE. YOU.

>> IT COULD BE WE PROBABLY HAD THAT OPTION WE JUST DID NOT EXERCISE THAT OPTION. I WOULD BE CURIOUS THAT'S ALL. MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Resolution 21-R65 appointing Ionis Jefferson to the Fort Pierce Housing Authority.]

AUTHORITY BOARD. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE -- >>

FROM THE PUBLIC. >> ANY ANYBODY OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND IDENTIFIED YOURSELF AND NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

MOVE ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS

FROM THE CITY MANAGER. >> MR. MIMMS.

>> MADAM MAYOR IN YOUR THE STRATEGIC PLAN REPORT UPDATE AND ALSO THE MONTHLY CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

IN YOUR PURCHASE ORDER REPORT YOU WILL SEE THAT

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AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE.

MOST OF THE ACTION ITEMS HAD.

WE ARE GETTING TO THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY, HAD HAD MATERIAL DELAYS WE'VE HAD CONSTRUCTION DELAYS WE HAVE HAD LABOR SHORTAGES AND ILLNESS AND SICKNESS WE HAVE STILL MANAGED TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ACHIEVING OF GOALS THAT WE HAVE SET FOURTH AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR CLERK IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH YOU SEE IT CLERK IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH YOU TO INITIATE THE NEXT STRATEGIC TO GET YOU ROLLING FOR NEXT YEAR TO ESTABLISH A NEW LIST FOR OUR COMPLETION.

FOLKS WE HAVE FOCUSEDDED ON THE COMMUNITY WE HAD A COMMUNITY CLEANUP. WE HAD A LUNCH AND LEARN SESSION. WORKING WITH THE STUDENTS.

SO AGAIN WE'RE FOCUSING ON COMMUNITY, WE'RE COMMUNITY AND CUSTOMER SERVICECENTRIC AND THESE REPORTS ACCENTUATE THAT. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

DOES THAT MEAN HAVE YOU NOTHING TO DO.

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT, MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT. WE HAVE A MAJOR WORLD EVENT IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE EVENT ORGANIZERS AND THE SPORTS COMMISSION AND EVERYTHING WILL BE SAFE FOR OUR VISITORS AND I SEND YOU A

LINK. >> THAT WAS A GOOD VIDEO.

HE WAS IN THAT VIDEO. SO WE'RE PREPARING AND WE'RE GEARING UP FOR AN ANTICIPATED VERY BUSY TOURISM SYSTEM.

THEY DID A GOOD JOB. I TELL YOU WHAT.

I JUST SEEING THOSE FRESH IDEAS AND HEARING THEM SAY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING JUST KIND OF REJUVENATED OUR STAFF. AND WE ARE REALLY ENJOYING WORKING WITH THOSE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

YEAH, THEY DID. A QUICK TURNAROUND.

YEAH I MEAN WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO PLAY.

BUT WE GOT IT DONE. THEY WERE ALL CHARGED UP TO DO IT. WE HAVE A FOOD GIVEAWAY ON THE 13TH NOVEMBER. WE DO BEGINNING AT 9:00 A.M.

WE WILL BE GIVING AWAY TO HELP FACILITY A GIVEAWAY THAT WILL APPROXIMATELY SERVE ROUGHLY 500 PEOPLE.

IT'S A DRIVE-THRU LIKE WE HAVE DONE IN PREVIOUS EVENTS. BUT AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A STRONG EMPLOYEE PRESENCE THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY ONCE AGAIN.

TERRIFIC. >> YES, MA'AM.

ONE OTHER POINT TO THAT DRIVE-THRU WE ARE LOOKING AT UNITE OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WE'VE ENVITED THEM TO PARTICIPATE NOT ONLY IN FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS BUT I THINK I READ THEY CAN PARTICIPATE BY HANDING OUT INFORMATION AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL PLACE TO PARTNER WITH US AND SHARE RESOURCES MITCH OF THE GOOD WORK THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT REREALLY WANT TO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT.

WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO ABOUT 15 JUST TO BE SAFE.

AND SURE EVERYBODY THAT HAS PROPER SPACING.

THAT EVENT STARTS TOMORROW IT'S NEXT WEEK.

>> IT'S TOMORROW. >> IT'S UPON US.

OH, YEAH, IT IS. WEEKS MY BAD.

EVENT THAT IS JUDGED AND I BELIEVE TELEVISED FIFTH AND SIXTH OF NOVEMBER. THIS WEEK.

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MISS ARTICLE ANYTHING TO ADD.

>> I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. ARE YOU MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANT FOR REDISTRICTING.

WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME? >> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND I VALENTINE SEEN THE FINANCIAL CONTRACT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE A DEADLINE IN WHICH TO HAVE THEIR REDISTRICTING ACCOMPLISHED. WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME DEADLINE SO I DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH HIM UNTIL AFTER THAT DEADLINE HAS PASSED FOR ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HE'S ASSISTING SO I WOULD SUSPECT

AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. HE'S THE ONE THAT DID THE WEB ANNIVERSARY. SO, YEAH.

VERY BUSY GENTLEMAN. >> YEAH.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

ARE WE READY TO GO ON NEXT. >> YOU ARE READY FOR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER PERONA WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FORWARD.

>> JUST BRIEFLY I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MAIN STREET FOR PUTTING ON A FUN EVENT THE GHOST WALK THEY DID A GREAT JOB. WE ACTUALLY MY WIFE AND I WERE GUIDES THIS YEAR AND LEARNED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE CITY THAT WE'VE LIVED IN FOR 50 YEARS, AND IT'S AMAZING THAT YOU KNOW IN A SQUARE FOUR BLOCKS SQUARE THERE IS SO MUCH THAT'S HAPPENED AND I DO NOW BELIEVE IN GHOSTS. AFTER THE ROARS WHO CAME FORTH AND REALLY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THEIR ACTING.

THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THEIR TOWNS YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH YOUR OWN.

I WAS VERY CLOSE. A LITTLE TOUGH ON THE WEATHER ON THURSDAY I KNOW. A LOT OF GOOD FUN.

WE FILLED UP DOWNTOWN I DID THE SUNRISE ASHLEY GANG ALL LAID OUT. I KNOW ABOUT THAT.

PARTS OF THAT STORY FAMILIES THAT OWN THE HARDWARE STORE THE FUNERAL. AND IT'S JUST INTERESTING HOW ALL THAT STUFF COMES TOGETHER.

AND SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR HISTORY WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF. AND SOME THINGS THAT YOU JUST LIKE TO SKIP OVER. ESPECIALLY ON HALLOWEEN.

CAN'T CHANGE THE PAST. REALLY HAPPY FOR MAIN STREET AND GET ANOTHER EVENT. JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.

SO IT'S OFFICIALLY MOVED IN THEY'RE OUT OF THE BUILDING INTO MEANS COURT. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST SAID -- REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

IT'S MEANT A LOT OF TEMPERATURE TURNED UP AROUND THE NATION CONCERNING THAT I KNOW WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AND I THINK AS MUCH PUBLIC FACING MEETINGS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONTRACT STATES WE WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY SOME PUBLIC INPUT TO EXPLAIN THIS TO THEM.

I'M ENCOURAGING THAT WE DO THAT.

SIR I BELIEVE EVERY MEETING THAT HAVE YOU WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

EVERY MEETING. VERY WELL SO THOSE THAT ARE LING OF THAT HAVE THOSE CONCERNS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT FOR MORE INFORMATION WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ABOUT REDUCING DISTRICTS WE ARE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE BALANCE THIS CITY BASED ON THE CENSOR NUMBERS THAT ARE NOW IN WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF VOTING IN EACH DIRECT.

SO, THAT WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AT THAT POINT

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IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? >> EQUAL POPULATION.

>> EQUAL POPULATION. SO.

>> THAT MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE.

THEY MAY NOT. WE DON'T KNOW.

>> BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THAT PART OF MY COMMENTS TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME MISINFORMATION FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND IT'S FACTUAL TO HELP REFUTE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S FLOATING & IN OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHTY.

COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PROGRESS IN THE CITY. THE TURN LANE BEING INSTRUCTED THERE THERE WILL BE SOME INTERSECTION THAT IS VERY LARGE BE THAT PROBLEMATIC WITH STORM WATER EVERY TIME THE HEAVY RAINS COME.

SO THAT'S GREAT TO SEE. BEING FINISHED UP.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMITTEES TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S TRANSPORTATION. IF OUR T.P.O. MEETING COMMISSIONER AND I GOT TO SIT WITH THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE ENTERPRISE AND THE FDOT AND THEY CAME AND MADE THEIR ANNUAL PRESENTATION TO US.

AND OF COURSE THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION WAS WRAPPED AROUND MIDWAY ROAD. ACQUIRING THE LANDS TRYING TO BRING YOU KNOW COUNTY TO CITIES TURN BIKE ENTERPRISE WHICH IS NOT FUNDED BY ANY FEDERAL MONEY WHATSOEVER ALONG WITH THE D.O.T. BEING BROUGHT IN WITH THE FEDERAL MONEY. OF COURSE THE COUNTY IN THE OTHER OUR SISTER CITY IN -- WEATHER FINANCIALLY OR NOT.

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE LOCAL DOLLARS ACTUALLY TO COME IN MORE MATCHING DOLLARS SO WE CAN MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD AND COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON TALKED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE WESTSIDE OF 95 RIGHT THERE AT THAT CORRIDOR.

FOUR HOTELS TO LOCATE OR RELOCATE YOUR NEXT SCHOOLS TO TALK TO OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE TALK TO THEM AND TELL THEM THAT WE NEED THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR LITTLE TOWN. A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING. JUST TO BE APPRISED OF WHAT HE KNOWS, TOO. SO I TOUR WAS A TOUR AT MAIN STREET. I DID WATERFRONT.

I HAD AT LEAST TWO DESCENDANTS WHO WERE PLAYING THE PART OF ONE WAS THE DECENTENT FRANK TYLER AND -- DESCENDANT OF FRANK TYLER. IT'S THE NEW TOUR SO WE WERE IN ST. ANDREWS CHURCH EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING ISN'T THAT OLD BUT THE ST. ANDREWS A CHURCH HAS BEEN WILL SINCE BEFORE FORT PIERCE WAS A CITY.

SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF AN INTERESTING THAT WAS AN INTERESTING TOUR AND I ENJOYED THAT VERY MUCH.

AND I ALSO WENT TO THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK ON FRIDAY AND PARTICIPATED IN PACK THE HOUSE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO PACKING THOSE BOXES.

I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DOING ON NOVEMBER 13TH.

I'M NOW AN EXPERT OF PUTTING FOUR PANS OF CORN IN A BOX.

SO IT'S IT'S QUITE AN OPERATION AND QUITE AN ASSEMBLY LINE. AND THE REDISTRICTING I WROTE AN ARTICLE FOR FOCUS THAT'S COMING OUT IN NOVEMBER ON REDISTRICTING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU WANT TO USE IT.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE EXPLANATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BASED ON WHAT BASED ON WHAT THE WEB ANNIVERSARY DID THAT WE ALL WENT TO. SO IT'S ABOUT BEING FAIR AND IT'S ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT.

AT ANY RATE THAT'S WHAT WE PROMISE WE ALL DO.

SO, AND I BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY AS MUCH AS WE

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I THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADJOURN.

IF EVERYBODY WILL LEAVE THE CHAMBER I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WE WILL BE TURNING OUT THE LIGHTS AND PACKING UP OUR STAFF -- OUR STUFF.

IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ANYTHING YOU CAN TALK TO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.