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[Call to Order]

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>> CHAIRMAN FEE: GOOD AFTERNOON. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY TO ORDER, SCHEDULED FOR THIS JANUARY 18TH, 2022. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. PRAY WITH ME. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO HONOR YOU IN THIS PUBLIC SETTING. WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO COME AND REST IN THIS PLACE. WE ASK FOR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AS THE TEAM OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE DELIBERATE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASK FOR PROTECTION OVER PUBLIC UTILITIES AND SCHOOLS AND ASK FOR A SPIRIT OF PEACE AND UNITY DWELL AMONG LEADERS. MAY YOU BLESS THE CITY, COUNTY, STATE AND NATION IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN.

>> AMEN. >> PLEDGE A LEGIENCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIONBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL-CALL) >> CHAIRMAN FEE: ALL RIGHT.

[A. SET THE AGENDA]

HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA?

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL-CALL)

[B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: AND HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW

THE MINUTES? >> MINUTE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL

[**Barbara Mika to present the Government Finance Officer Association’s Certificate of Achievement for Excellence in Financial Reporting Award]

(ROLL-CALL) >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY INTERRUPT. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY BARBARA MIKA FOR A REWARD FOR CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCING BEFORE WE ADDRESS THE PUBLIC.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT NOW?

>> IF WE COULD. MISS MIKA. >> THANK YOU, MR. CISNEROS AND BOARD MEMBERS. THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZES GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE GONE BEYOND THE REQUIREMENTS OF GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. FPUA'S FINANCIAL REPORT HAS BEEN JUDGE BY A PANEL TO MEET HIGH STANDARDS OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH INCLUDE DEMONSTRATING THE SPIRIT OF TR TRANSPARENCY AND FULL DISCLOSURE. THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION IN THE AREA OF GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING. ATTAINING THIS REWARD REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND MANAGEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ACCOUNTING STAFF AS WELL AS MANAGEMENT OF FPUA FOR EFFORTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMPILATION OF THE DOCUMENT. FPUA IS ONE OF 300 FLORIDA GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO RECEIVE THE 2020 REWARD FOR FINANCIAL REPORTING. FPUA HAS RECEIVED THIS REWARD EVERY YEAR SINCE 1995. THIS MAKES THIS OUR 26TH CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THIS RECOGNITION. HEAVY AS IT IS, I BROUGHT THE PLAQUE.

(CHUCKLING) >> THANK YOU.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: CONGRATULATIONS. GREAT WORK. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? IF SO, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME.

YOU HAVE TWO, THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. DOES NOT LIKE LOOK WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO THE

[D. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA. EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE ITEMS?

DO WE NEED TO PULL ANYTHING? >> MR. CHAIR?

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: YES, SIR. >> SO I AM THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THE CUSTOMER FOR ITEM D-6. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE DO A ROLL-CALL FOR ITEMS D-1 THROUGH D-5 AND GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON D-6.

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>> CHAIRMAN FEE: ALL RIGHT. MR. LAMMERS HAS CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ITEM 6. WE'LL PULL THAT AND ADD THAT TO NEW BUSINESS. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLACE TO GO? AND MAKE THAT NO. 6.

>> WE CAN APPROVE THEM SEPARATELY. 1-5 IS ONE ITEM AND

D-6 IS SEPARATE. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: WE'LL TALK ABOUT 6. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 1-5 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> I SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: CALL THE ROLL.

[D.6. Approve Post Budgeted Project/Budget Request for Pursuit Boats Phase II Project in the amount of $83,100.]

(ROLL-CALL) >> CHAIRMAN FEE: ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 6, I THINK NOW WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS. OR MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 6.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL-CALL)

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: DOES HE HAVE TO GET A FORM TO SIGN THAT, WHY

HE'S ABSTAINING FOR THE VOTE? >> YES. WE HAVE A STANDARD

FORM HERE. >> WE CAN GET HIM THE FORM.

I'LL EMAIL IT TO HIM. >> I CAN EMAIL IT TO HIM.

[E. LETTERS OF APPRECIATION]

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ONTO LETTERS OF

APPRECIATION. >> WE HAVE FIVE LETTERS OF APPRECIATION. THE FIRST ONE BEING WE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM MR. RON MONTOYA, WHO IS WITH STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES. HE'S THE FACILITIES MANAGER FOR BENTON BUILDING IN FORT PIERCE. HE WANTED TO SHOW HIS APPRECIATION OF FPUA, PARTICULARLY PATRICK GILLESPIE FROM ELECTRONIC OPERATIONS. HE APPRECIATES OUR COMPANY, AND WHEN HE CALLS WITH AN ISSUE OR PROBLEM IT'S TAKEN CARE OF.

THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM MR. RICHARD BREESE THANKING MELISSA BRUNO AND DEAN MOSELY FOR GETTING UTILITIES CONNECTED SO QUICKLY. MR. BREESE JUST MOVED INTO HIS NEW LOCATION WITH FPUA.

WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM MISS PAGANO FOR VAL SIRMONS CALL CENTER TEAM LEAD. SHE CANNOT SAY ENOUGH GREAT THINGS ABOUT VAL AND HOW SHE HELPED HER TO REMOVE HERSELF FROM PAPERLESS BILLING. MISS PAGANO WANTED TO COMMEND VAL. AND STATED VAL WENT OVER AND ABOVE HER PAY GRADE TO WALK HER THROUGH THE PROCESS ON HER WEBSITE AND CALLED HER BACK TO FOLLOW UP.

WE RECEIVED A COMPLIMENT FROM SHARICE BURGESS FOR ASHLEY LEVIN. MISS LEVIN DID A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THE SITUATION SHE WAS IN AND TOOK CARE OF EVERYTHING IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SHE REALLY APPRECIATES HER, EVERYTHING SHE DID, AND THE COMPANY. MISS LEVIN DID A GREAT JOB.

WE RECEIVED A COMPLIMENT FROM ANGEL LEJEUNE WITH ASHLEY LEVIN.

SHE WAS THOUGHTFUL, AMAZING. SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW

HOW GOOD SHE IS. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: OKAY. THAT'S PROBABLY THE LONGEST LIST OF LETTERS OF APPRECIATION I'VE SEEN. VERY HAPPY WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

ALL RIGHT. OLD BUSINESS. ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN OLD BUSINESS? DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE HAVE.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO NEW BUSINESS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. THERE'S ONE THING -- I KNOW WE SET THE AGENDA. THE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN SET NEW BUSINESS TO ITEM G-5, MOVING THE CONTRACTS TO ON PAGE 3 AS NEW ITEM FOR DISCUSSION. IT'S UNDER MY SIGNIFICANT AUTHORITY. WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE BANK CORPS GROUP. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO RE-SET THE AAGAIN OR JUST ADD IT, MR. KOBLEGARD. DO WE RE-SET THE AGENDA OR ADD

AGENDA G-5. >> I DID NOT BRING MY HEARING

AID. I JUST FORGOT. >> CAN WE ADD G-5 AS NEW ITEM

WITHOUT RE-SETTING THE AGENDA? >> YES.

[G.1. POA No. 22-12: Approve the purchase for a 48 Foot Insulated Articulating Telescopic Aerial Device with Material Handling Truck Model AT41M from Altec Industries, Inc., of Birmingham, Alabama, in an amount not to exceed $218,167, under Sourcewell-NJPA Contract No. 012418-ALT.]

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> SO THE FIRST ITEM THIS AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS A REQUEST FOR THE PURCHASE OF A 48-FOOT STRUCK WITH TELESCOPIC AERIAL DEVICE AND MATERIAL HANDLING CAPABILITIES. THIS VEHICLE IS PART OF A TEN-YEAR REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. TONY GONZALES, LEAD LINEMAN WILL

PRESENT THE ITEM. >> THANK YOU, MR. CYHAIRMAN AN BOARD. I'M THE LEAD LINEMAN. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OF 48-FOOT BUCKET TRUCK FROM ALTEC INDUSTRIES OF BIRMINGHAM,

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ALABAMA FOR THE AMOUNT OF $218,116. UNDER THE SOURCEWELL NJPA CONTRACT. THE PURCHASE IS GOING TO REPLACE A 2007 BUCKET TRUCK, MATERIAL HANDLING BUCKET TRUCK WITH 125,000 MILES ON IT AND 5,800 HOURS OF SERVICE. THIS VEHICLE IS A REPLACEMENT AS PART OF OUR FISCAL YEAR '22 BUDGET. I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE

QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YOU SAID IT'S APPROVED? >> CORRECT, FISCAL YEAR '22

BUDGET, YES, MA'AM. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO GET OFF THE TRUCK THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER, MA'AM.

>> ACTUALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE GOING TO RECYCLE THE VEHICLE THAT IS GOING TO BE RE -- THE VEHICLE THAT WE'RE REPLACING WILL BE CYCLED TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. WE'RE I THINK A TWO-YEAR WINDOW BEFORE WE GET THIS TRUCK. IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG LEAD TIME. THAT TRUCK WILL HOPEFULLY GET TO THE FPUA GROUP

OR UTILIZED IN ANOTHER DIVISION. >> AWESOME.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL-CALL)

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: THANK YOU, SIR.

[G.2. Natural Gas Rate Stabilization Fund Update – November 2021]

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON THE NATURAL GAS RATE STABILIZATION FUND WITH REQUEST TO DECREASE THE PURCHASE OF GAS BY 02 CFS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CISSNEROS, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF BOARD. STAFF RERUN THE SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS, WHICH INCLUDES OCTOBER'S ACTUALS AND PRELIMINARY DATA FOR NOVEMBER. NATURAL GAS PRICES AT HENRY HUB HAVE BEEN TRENDING DOWN SINCE DECEMBER. THE PRICES HAVE AVERAGED $5.49 A DECO THERM. SINCE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER, CONTINUING WARM TEMPERATURES AND MILD DEMAND KEPT STORAGE WITHDRAWALS RELATIVELY SMALL IN 2021. THE DIA REPORT SHOWS WORKING GAS REPORTS STAND AT 3,505 BCFS, 9.2% BELOW ONE YEAR AGO AND 9.25% BELOW THE FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE. THE NOVEMBER CURVE REFLECTS INCREASE IN BGA APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON OCTOBER 19, 2021. FROM $0.03 -- FROM NEGATIVE $0.03 A CCF TO $0.20 A CCF. THE PRICE OF GAS IS DOWN $1.70 SINCE THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER. IT'S PREDICTED TO CLIMB ABOVE THE OPERATING RANGE.

BASED ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE RSF, STAFF RECOMMENDS DECREASE OF PURCHASE GAS ADJUSTMENT OF $0.22 PER CCF.

FROM POSITIVE 20 TO NEGATIVE $0.02 PER CCF. EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2021. ALTHOUGH STAFF RECOMMENDS THE DECREASE TO THE PGA, THE PGA CAN REMAIN THE SAME IF THE BOARD DESIRES.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> CHAIRMAN FEE: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING US TO ROLL

BACK THE COST BY $0.22? >> THAT WILL BRING IT TO

NEGATIVE $0.02. >> WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGE

OF KEEPING IT WHERE IT IS? >> THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE OF KEEPING IT WHERE IT IS. RIGHT NOW, WE'LL BE AT THE MAXIMUM LEVEL. IF WE STAY WHERE WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABOVE OUR

THRESHOLD. >> I MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL-CALL)

[G.3. Bill Comparison for the Month of November 2021 – For Information Only]

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>> CHAIRMAN FEE: THANK YOU, FRED.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS INFORMATION PRESENTATION FOR THE NOVEMBER 2021 BILL COMPARISON. MICHELLE HARRIS, FINANCE COMPTROLLER WILL

PRESENT THE ITEM. >> THANK YOU. I AM PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY THE MONTHLY UPDATE ON COMPARISON OF FLORIDA MUNICIPAL GRADES PUBLISHED BY FPUA FOR NOVEMBER. I BELIEVE JOE PROVIDED YOU UPDATES PRIOR TO THE MEETING. THOSE UPDATES WERE JUST REFLECTIONS OF CHANGES THAT WE RECEIVED FRIDAY AFTERNOON FROM FMEA. THE ONLY CHANGES FROM TO CITY OF OCALA.

IT HAD AN INEFFECT ON ALL THE CHARGES IN THE BOARD PACKET.

THE FIRST GRAPH SHOWS REACTION FOR 1,000 KILOWATTS OF CONSUMPTION FOR THE 13 MUNICIPAL UTILITIES. THEY'RE DISPLAYED IN RANKS BASED ON BASE BILL AMOUNTS. NOVEMBER RATE SHOWN IN THE YELLOW BAR. RANKS AT THE FOURTH LOWEST IN THE GROUP.

THIS GRAPH DISPLAYS THE SAME COMPARISON FOR THE SAME LEVEL OF CONSUMPTION BUT INCLUDES OTHER MUNICIPAL UTILITIES IN THE STATE. NOVEMBER BILL BRINGS US TO THE COMPARISON TO THE OTHERS.

THE BLUE BAR REPRESENTS DECEMBER APPROVED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PCA.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. IN HAD NOVEMBER, F FPUA INCREASED NEGATIVE 6 TO 0. 15 OF THE UTILITIES PROPOSED RATE INCREASES RESULTING IN INCREASE OF $2.94 TO THE ARP AVERAGE AND INCREASE OF $3.36 TO MUNICIPAL AVERAGE. THIS GRAPH PRESENTS A SIMILAR COMPARISON BUT FOR THE CONSUMPTION OF 2,500 KILOWATT-HOURS. FPUA BILL AT $294.80 RANKS US IN THE MIDDLE AMONG THE GROUP AS WELL. OUR RATES AT 1,000 KILOWATT-HOURS FALL BELOW ALL THREE AVERAGES, ASMT RP, MUNICIPAL AND IOU AVERAGE. OUR RATES FOR 25 KILOWATT-HOURS FALL BELOW ARP AND IOU, JUST CENTS ABOVE THE MUNICIPAL AVERAGE. TABLE DISPLAYED AT THE NOVEMBER COMPARISON OF THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY BILLS ON THE TREASURE COAST. FPUA UTILITY BILL FOR ALL THREE SERVICES PROVIDE INSIDE CITY IN BLUE.

ALL BILLS HAVE ELECTRIC SERVICES BY FPUA AND -- THIS INCLUDES FPUA $6 INCREASE TO THE PCA AS WELL AS THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INCREASES OF 1.17%. THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED FOR INFORMATION ONLY AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ARE THERE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> NO QUESTIONS. >> IS THERE ANY INDICATION ON THE INCREASES THAT THE REST OF THE MUNICIPALITIES FOR THE REST

OF THE UTILITIES? >> WE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA. WE KNOW THAT FPML PROPOSED AN INCREASE FOR JANUARY. WE'LL START SEEING THAT. WE HAVE AN INKLING ON THAT. AS FAR AS OTHERS, WE WON'T KNOW FOR THREE WEEKS WHAT THEY DID.

>> OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID

THIS REFLECTS $6 INCREASE. >> THIS IS NOVEMBER BILL. WE WENT FROM NEGATIVE 6 TO ZERO. THIS IS WHERE THE PCA SAID ZERO.

>> WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THE $18 INCREASE IS UNTIL THE NEXT

REPORT? >> RIGHT. WE'LL -- YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE COMPARED TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES UNTIL THE NEXT REPORT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'LL SEE THAT IN MARCH,

FEBRUARY -- OR MARCH COMPARISON? >> WE'LL BRING IT IN THREE

WEEKS WE'LL HAVE THE DATA. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK

[G.4. Status Report on Electric Power Cost Adjustment (PCA) for November 2021 – For Information Only]

YOU. >> THANK YOU, MICHELLE. THE NEXT ITEM IS UPDATE ON POWER COST ADJUSTMENT WITH REQUEST TO DECREASE THE POWER COST ADJUSTMENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. BARBARA MIKA, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM.

>> MR. CISNEROS, CHAIRMAN FEE AND BOARD MEMBERS, GOOD

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AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH UPDATED INFORMATION ON THE STATUS OF THE POWER COST ADJUSTMENT FOR NOVEMBER ALONG WITH THE UPDATED 12 MONTHS PROJECTIONS THROUGH NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. FPUA COST TO PURCHASE POWER IS RECOVERED IN PART THROUGH CUSTOMER BILLS.

THE REQUESTS COVER IN EXCESS OF BASE POWER COST ARE ACCUMULATED AS OVER RECOVERY OR AN OVER RECOVERY TO RATE STABILIZATION FUND. IN ORDER TO RETAIN SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PAY FOR OUR POWER COST, WE MAINTAIN A PCA RESERVE BETWEEN $1 MILLION AND $4 MILLION. WITH EXCESS FUNDS GOING BACK TO THE CUSTOMER WHEN POSSIBLE. THE COST OF POWER PURCHASE FROM FMPA FOR NOVEMBER WAS BILLED TO FPUA AT $80.24 FOR 1,000 KILOWATT-HOURS. THIS WAS AN INCREASE OF $0.03 COMPARED TO OCTOBER BILLING FROM FMPA. FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, THE FPUA EXPERIENCED AFTER OVERRECOVERY OF POWER AT $41,442. THIS SLIGHT CHANGE INCREASES THE OVER RECOVERY BUT MAINTAINS IT AT 1.2 MILLION AS OF NOVEMBER 30TH.

THIS CHART TRACKS CUMULATIVE MONTHLY BALANCE OF PCA OVERRECOVERY IN RELATION TO THE APPROVED POWER COST ADJUSTMENT LEVELS. WE CAN SEE HERE THE PCA LEVELS GOING BACK TWO YEARS WITH ACTUALS TO NOVEMBER OF 2019, AND PROJECTIONS FORWARD TO NOVEMBER 2022. THE AMOUNT OF THE POWER COST ADJUSTMENT IS REPRESENTED BY THE DARK BLUE LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE BOTTOM AND JUTS UP HERE. MORE THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER WAS ZERO AS MICHELLE MENTIONED FOR 1,000 KILOWATT-HOURS. THE BARS ON THE TOP OF THE GRAPH REPRESENT THE LEVEL OF THE OVERRECOVERY. THE BLUE BARS ARE THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS OF MONTHLY BALANCES. FPUA MAINTAINED PCA LEVEL OVER $1 MILLION MARK FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. CHANGE THE ORANGE BARS SHOW PROJECTION OF OVERRECOVERY WOULD BE IF THE FORECASTED NUMBERS BEING PRESENTED TODAY ARE CORRECT. THE CURRENT FORECAST WITH THE RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PCA THROUGH END OF THE YEAR WILL KEEP RESERVES WITHIN THE RATE STABILIZATION RANGE. THESE PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN PREPARED BY RAPTELLS FINANCIAL CONSULTS AND BASED ON FORECAST PREPARED BY FMPA. SINCE OCTOBER FORECAST, FMPA'S ESTIMATE OF COST OF PURCHASE POWER FOR THE UPCOMING 12 MONTHS DECREASED 9.1%. THIS GRAPH PRESENTS A COMPARISON OF THE UPDATED PROJECTIONS. TRENDING THE POWER COST RECOVERY THROUGH NOVEMBER 2022. THE DECREASE IN THE COST PROJECTIONS HAS, AGAIN, CHANGED THE COMPARISON CONSIDERABLY SINCE LAST PRESENTED. THE GRAY LINE, WHICH TAKES US ALL THE WAY UP HERE, MAINTAINS THE LAST PCA APPROVED PCA OF $18 IN EFFECT DECEMBER 1ST WITH NO FURTHER CHANGES, RECOUPING CASH DIFFERENCES AND SURPASSING RATE STABILIZATION FUND SOMEWHERE DOWN HERE IN MAY AND TAKING OFF INTO THE -- ONTO THE TOP OF THE CHART. THE GREEN LINE FOLLOWS THE SAME PATH. BUT IN MAY, THERE'S ONE-TIME DECREASE IN PCA OF $30, WHICH WOULD BRING THAT TO NEGATIVE 12. AND CARRYING THAT, BRINGING THAT FORWARD, BACK INTO THE RATE STABILIZATION FUND, TO THE END OF THE YEAR, KEEPING THE PCA THERE THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST WITH $20 INCREASE AND BRING THE PCA BACK TO $8. THAT'S THE GREEN LINE. NOT DOING ANYTHING UNTIL WE REACH THE $4 MILLION MARK. THE RED LINE, THE THIRD SCENARIO IS RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENT TODAY.

AS IT TAKES A STEADIER PATH WITH THE SLOWER AND MORE GRADUAL PCA ADJUSTMENTS. THE BLUE NUMBERS ALONG THE BOTTOM, I POPULATED THIS. IT WOULD BE MORE EXPLANATORY. SHOWS WHAT THE PCA LEVEL WOULD BE BASED ON THAT RED LINE. THE PCA IS NOW CURRENTLY $18. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS $4 REDUCTION, WHICH MEANS FEBRUARY PCA WOULD BE $14, CONTINUING THAT THROUGH JUNE. AND THEN, CARRYING NEGATIVE $2 UNTIL OCTOBER, WHERE IT WOULD INCREASE BY $2 AND BRING IT UP TO ZERO.

THAT'S WHAT THE ADDED INFORMATION IS TO MAKE IT FOR

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USER-FRIENDLY. SO THE ADJUSTMENTS SHOWN IN RED STARTING WITH $4 DECREASE IN FEBRUARY, CONTINUING WITH POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS THROUGH JUNE IS WHAT IS IN THE FORECASTED NUMBERS. THIS CHART HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE LAST MONTH. IT REPRESENTS -- IT INCLUDES NOVEMBER FORECAST.

BASED ON THE MONTH-OVER-MONTH CHANGE IN THE PROJECTED AVERAGE COST PER MEGAWATT HOUR. WHAT THIS IS SAYING HERE IS THE BLUE LINE WAS THE AUGUST FORECAST. IN AUGUST, THEY SAID THE NOVEMBER RATE WAS GOING TO BE $91. ACTUALLY, IT COMES IN AT $78.83. SO THESE ARE THE AUGUST FORECAST FOR ALL THE MONTHS GOING UP TO MARCH. FOR SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER. THESE ARE THE NOVEMBER FORECAST WITH NOVEMBER THE ACTUAL NUMBER.

THESE ARE THE FORECASTS WE'RE WORKING WITH IN THIS PROJECTION.

IT LAYS OUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE WERE IN SEPTEMBER WAS WAY UP HERE. AND NOW, WHERE WE ARE IN NOVEMBER IS WAY DOWN HERE BASED UPON THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN. IT PUTS A PICTURE TOGETHER. LAST MONTH IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO MAKE NO CHANGE TO THE POWER COST. WE WERE GOING TO JUST WATCH OUR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ROLLED OUT WITH THE UPDATES. IN LIGHT OF THE REDUCED PROJECTIONS WE'RE SEEING HERE FOR SECOND MONTH IN A ROW, WE ARE NOW SUGGESTING TO MAKE A SMALL CHANGE NOW AS WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE FORECAST AND WATCH THE SITUATION AS IT CONTINUES. AND REPORT MONTHLY AS WE USUALLY DO TO RECOMMEND CHANGES WHEN WE NEED TO. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING $4 DECREASE IN THE PCA. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SO CHOOSE.

>> QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD? >> A FEW THINGS. SO IN LIGHT OF THE WEATHER LATELY, AND IT BEING SO COOL OUTSIDE, I FEEL LIKE IN ORDER TO REBUILD THE AMOUNT THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE -- IF WE LOOK AT THIS YEAR AT THIS TIME, I THINK IT'S $5 MILLION.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE THING IS IN MY HEAD. IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT UP REAL QUICK. WELL, THAT WAS 2019-2020. LET'S SEE, WE WERE AT ALMOST 4. THEN HERE WE ARE AT 2021 AT 12, RIGHT. SO I FEEL LIKE WE PROBABLY NEED TO REBUILD SOME OF THIS A LITTLE BIT. I WOULD WOULD PREFER TO SEE US NOT MAKE A CHANGE FOR ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO, AND THEN, DECREASE IT A LITTLE MORE DRAMATICALLY OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME. IF WE -- LET'S SAY INSTEAD OF LIKE 20 OVER FIVE MONTHS, MAYBE WE DO 20 OVER FOUR OR THREE MONTHS, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE START TO SEE IN THE MARKET. I FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO HELP REBUILD THIS AND GET HEALTHY AND BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT'S HOT OUT. RATHER THAN DOING NEGATIVE TWO.

THE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE BEEN AT I THINK NEGATIVE

12. THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS. >> I AGREE. WHAT NUMBER IS THE MAGIC NUMBER THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE -- MANAGEMENT FEELS COMFORTABLE HAVING IN THE FUND? OBVIOUSLY GO BACK HISTORICALLY, THE HIGH UP WAS $5 MILLION. IS THAT WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE?

DO YOU LIKE TO BE HIGHER? >> THE NUMBER WE LIKE TO BE WAS -- BY THE BOARD IN 2008-10 TIME FRAME. THAT NUMBER RANGES BETWEEN 4 AND 1 BECAUSE IT CHANGES DRASTICALLY MONTH TO MONTH. BEFORE WE GET TO THE SUMMER, WE KIND OF STACK UP A LITTLE BIT. REALLY IT IS UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD.

STAYING IN THE MIDDLE IS WHERE WE'D LIKE TO BE, BUT THAT IS

HARD TO NAVIGATE MONTH TO MONTH. >> AS YOU COULD TELL, BY THE TIME WE STARTED RAISING IT, LIKES LOOK WE DROPPED ALMOST $1 MILLION IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME OVER 30 DAYS. SO I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO RECOUP UNTIL WE GET 5 MILLION.

(COUGHING) >> IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG TO LEAK THE FUND DOWN. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO REACH THE $5 MILLION RANGE IF WE MAKE NO CHANGES TO THE PCA?

>> IT'S GOING TO CLOSE MY SESSION. ACCORDING TO THIS CHART, THAT YOU CAN'T SEE ALL OF IT RIGHT NOW, THE $5 MILLION MARK WOULD PUT US AT SOMEWHERE AROUND INTO JUNE.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: JUNE. >> $4 MILLION OUT TO JUNE.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: WHICH COINCIDES WITH LOWERING IT AROUND THAT JUNE TIME FRAME WHEN THINGS GET HOT.

>> MR. CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET ALL THE WAY UP TO $5 MILLION. I FEEL LIKE RIGHT BEFORE WE USUALLY MAKE THE

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DECREASE, SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE. SO I FEEL LIKE -- I'M LOOKING AT NOVEMBER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK OFF OF, RIGHT, SO WE HAVE COMPARISONS FOR RECENT NUMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THE 3 RANGE MIGHT BE MORE

COMFORTABLE. >> MR. CHAIR, I THINK THAT CAREFUL BALANCE IS WHAT WE SHOULD STRIVE FOR, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE RATE PAYORS TO THINK WE'RE STOCKPILING MONEY, RIGHT? UNNECESSARILY. WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN TO TOO LITTLE MONEY. I REALLY WOULD -- FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO THIS A MONTH AT A TIME. THAT'S WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.

WE DON'T EVER SAY THE NEXT THREE MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

THE WE SAY WE MIGHT AND LOOKS LIKE. BUT WE ONLY VOTE FOR ONE MONTH. I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE LEAVING IT AT WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW FOR ANOTHER MONTH. AND THEN, LOOK AT IT EACH MONTH.

THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE -- I DON'T WANT TO PILE UP MONEY, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE LEAN SIDE EITHER. SO...

(CHUCKLING) >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.

IF WE WAIT ANOTHER MONTH, THE GAS MARKET, THE GAS FUTURES ARE PRETTY -- THEY CHANGE QUITE DRASTICALLY. LAST TUESDAY, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY, IT WAS $3.70 A DECO DETE THERM. AND NOW IT'S $4.25 A DECO THERM. THAT'S IN THREE BUSINESS DAYS. IT RANGES QUICKLY. SO IF YOU WERE NOT TO CHANGE IT TODAY, WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATION. SO NO CHANGE TODAY OR THE FOUR IS WHAT WE

TALKED ABOUT AS WELL. >> DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> YES. I AGREE TO LEAVE IT THE SAME, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT AS MAYOR SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE -- WITH THE RATE PAYERS, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK WE'RE MAKING MONEY.

AND THEN, WE DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK IN LIMBO WHEN IT'S THAT TIME WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT AGAIN.

IT WOULDN'T LOOK GOOD. MAYBE WAIT A MONTH OR TWO AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND THEN, WE COME BACK AND WE NEED TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT, MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

>> I AGREE. TAKE IT MONTH BY MONTH. JUST LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE BLED IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE MONEY COMING OUT JUST BY -- (COUGHING)

>> SITTING AT THE $3 MILLION RNGE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE PRUDENT. GOT TO BE NORTH OF THE $3 MILLION RANGE. MANAGEMENT HAS TO GIVE US GUIDANCE ON. YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO, HOW MUCH IS GOING TO GO OUT IF WE HAVE ANOTHER PROLONGED PERIOD OF PRICE INCREASES. YES, REVIEWING IT MONTH TO MONTH, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. HOPEFULLY, MANAGEMENT WILL GIVE US GUIDANCE ON WHAT AMOUNT WE SHOULD HAVE STOCKPILED IN THERE.

I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THE WORD HOARDING OR STOCKPILING MONEY.

YOU GOT TO REMEMBER WE'VE GOT A FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION TO THE

ENTITY FIRST. >> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE -- >> SECURITY. IT'S SECURITY.

>> EXACTLY. WE DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE UPON OUR RATE PAYORS A CONSTANT HIKE AND LOWER. WE NEED TO EASE THEM INTO IT. IF WE GO SHORT ON MONEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EASE THEM INTO IT. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE RIPPING OFF A BAND-AID REAL QUICK. ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> CHAIRMAN? >> CHAIRMAN FEE: YES.

>> BACK IN TIME NOVEMBER '19 DATE ON YOUR SHEET, BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE PIVOT POINT USED TO BE $3.5 MILLION. AND THAT SEEMED TO BE WHAT WAS KIND OF COMFORTABLE. I'M GOING BACK FIVE, TEN YEARS. THAT'S WHAT WE

ALWAYS WORKED AROUND. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: IT SEEMS TO BE FLOATING AROUND THE $3 MILLION, AROUND THAT RANGE. OF COURSE, BACK IN DECEMBER OF '1, UP TO THE $4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION.

OBVIOUSLY, WE JUST LET IT DROP DOWN. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A FEELING OF WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. JUST KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA WHEN WE'RE GETTING THAT CLOSE. WE'LL START MAKING ADJUSTMENTS.

MR. LAMMERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?

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>> IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF US ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. I'M DEFINITELY A FAN OF WAITING ANOTHER MONTH AND REASSESSING AFTER WE GET MORE INFORMATION. I AGREE, ESPECIALLY IN HAD LIGHT OF HOW QUICKLY AS A COMPANY WE REDUCED THE RATE STABILIZATION FUND JUST OVER A MATTER OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HOLD OFF BEFORE WE REDUCE THE PCA. IF THE PROJECTIONS WORK OUT LIKE THE GREEN LINE ON THE DATA SAYS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. BUT THAT MEANS WE NEED TO WAIT ONE MORE MONTH BEFORE WE REDUCE THE PCA.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE THE PCA AS IT IS CURRENTLY AT

POSITIVE 18. >> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: WE HAVE A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL-CALL) >> I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THAT MEAN THAT WILL BE AS OF RIGHT NOW THREE MONTHS AT A

POSITIVE 18, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THIS SHOWS IT, YES, UNTIL

MAY. >> DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY?

>> CORRECT. >> THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DECIDED,

RIGHT? >> DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY,

RIGHT? NOTHING BEYOND THAT >> NO, MA'AM.

>> IT CONTINUES THE THEORY THE SUMMER WHEN THERE'S LESS G - PEOPLE CONSUMING MORE ENERGY. WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THAT GOAL THE VISION THE BOARD HAS HAD FOR MANY YEARS. THE CABLE CONTE

SPIRIT. >> SHE LIVES ON.

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(LAUGHTER) >> CHAIRMAN FEE: NEXT ITEM.

>> MR. CHARM, THE NEXT ITEM IS A NEW ITEM WE ADDED EARLIER THIS EVENING. IT IS A PER THE CONTRACT THROUGH STRATEGIC SERVICES WITH VAN CORE COMMUNICATIONS OF TALLAHASSEE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CISNEROS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR IWRF RELOCATION IS ESSENTIAL TO ITS SUCCESS. TO THIS END, STAFF BRINGS YOU TODAY THE FIRST PHASE OF OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH PROGRAM. THIS PHASE INCLUDES CUSTOMER SURVEY THAT WILL HELP GAUGE OUR COMMUNITY'S KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF IWF RELOCATION. WE'LL USE THE INFORMATION TO CREATE A TARGETED OUTREACH PROGRAM. IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES WHEN YOU WANT TO WHIP THE GAME YOU STACK YOUR TEAM. THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. STEVE VAN CORE, THE PRESIDENT OF VAN CORE JONES COMMUNICATIONS OUT OF TALLAHASSEE. I AM GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM, AND TRY TO EMBARRASS HIM A LITTLE BIT IF I CAN. SO STEVE HAS BEEN CONDUCTING PUBLIC RELATIONS AND STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS CAMPAIGN INS FLORIDA FOR WELL OVER 30 YEARS. HE HAS OVER 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE CONDUCTING RESEARCH IN VOTER BEHAVIOR AND CONDUCTING POLLS. HE'S WORKED IN ST. LUCIE ON POLITICAL AND REFERENDUM CAMPAIGN SINCE 2008.

HE LED THE SERVICE TO CHILDREN INITIATIVE. MOST RECENTLY, HE LED THE PORT ST. LUCIE TAX ABATEMENT CAMPAIGN AND SERVES AS COUNSEL ON UPWARD MOBILITY INITIATIVE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

MR. VANCORE, I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO YOU. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL US ABOUT THE SCOPE AND CUSTOMER SURVEY.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSION, AND MAYOR. LEAGUE OF CITIES IS ONE

OF OUR CLIENTS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> OBJECTIVE IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE. OUR BELIEF IS BEFORE WE BEGIN EMBARKING UPON A PROJECT THIS LARGE AND IMPORTANT, WE DON'T WANT TO START AND THEN MAKE A BIG MISTAKE. BEFORE WE WANT TODAY GET STARTED, WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO POLL THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK. THIS WILL SERVE AS A ROAD MAP FOR US IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING PUBLIC OPINION ABOUT THINGS THEY LIKE OR DISLIKE ABOUT IT, WHAT THEIR FEARS, ATTITUDES ARE ABOUT THE PROJECT. THAT WILL PROVIDE US A GUIDE WAY, A MAP AS IT WERE, TO MOVING FORWARD. BOTH IN TERMS OF BEST MESSAGING, TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS THAT MIGHT NEED FURTHER SUPPORT ON MESSAGING THAT MIGHT HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE GOOD PROJECT WE'RE EMBARKING UPON FOR THE RIGHT REASONS AND

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INFORM US AS TO WHICH NEED I CAN'T TO USE AND NOT JUST THE MESSAGES TO USE BUT WHICH MEDIA. AS WE KNOW IN THE NEW WORLD WE OCCUPY, DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS USE MEDIA DIFFERENTLY.

WE'LL TAKE THE POLL AND GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC OPINION, ATTITUDE. HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT THE CITY, THE PROJECT. WHAT MESSAGES THEY RESPOND TO. AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE US TALK ABOUT. THEN, THAT WILL HELP US FIGURE OUT A BUDGET AND PLAN BOTH IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MESSAGE IS AND WHAT MEDIA WE WOULD USE TO DEPLOY THAT MESSAGE. IT'S KIND OF SIMPLE BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS SO MANY TIMES. THAT'S USUALLY THE APPROACH WE TAKE. WE PITCHED IT TO BO. HE LIKED THE APPROACH. IT WAS SCIENTIFIC AND WELL FOUNDED AND GIVEN US A GOOD TRACK RECORD. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MIGHT HAVE HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: QUESTIONS? >> HOW DO YOU PLAN ON DOING THE POLL? IS IT GOING TO BE IN-PERSON, EMAIL, PHONE CALL?

>> REALLY GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A CHALLENGING THING THESE DAYS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HARDER AND HARDER TO ETCH RADIO. WE BELIEVE STRONGLY IN LIVE OPERATOR PHONE CALLS. WE WILL PROBABLY CALL 75% AND SPEAK WITH THEM ON THEIR CELL PHONES. WHEN THAT FALLS OFF, WE START TEXTING PEOPLE AND ASKING THEM TO TAKE THE POLL. WHAT IS IMPORTANT DOING THIS, WE'RE SELECTING THEM. THEY'RE NOT SELECTING US. WE CAN GET A POLL THAT IS RANDOM, MEANING WE RANDOMLY SELECT PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY SO IT'S NOT SKEWED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND IT'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT PEOPLE OF ALL MAKES AND MODELS ARE -- LOOK LIKE OUR CUSTOMER BASE. OKAY. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S GEOGRAPHICALLY DISTRIBUTED, BY GENDER, HOMEOWNERSHIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THEM. SO WE CAN TAKE THAT DATA AND FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF

THE COMMUNITY. >> IT'S GREAT.

>> IT'S A CHALLENGE THESE DAYS. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS

JUST 20 YEARS AGO. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO I HAVE A PRECONCEIVED IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT.

(CHUCKLING) >> DON'T WE ALL. THAT'S THE

DANGER, RIGHT? >> SO I THINK MOST PEOPLE DON'T GIVE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, ITS LOCATION, ANY THOUGHT AT ALL. AT ALL. I THINK AS PART OF IT, YOU'RE THE EXPERT.

AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO THIS ANYWAY. WE OUGHT TO FIND OUT WHAT MESSAGE SELLS THAT SAYS THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO END UP PAYING FOR IT A LITTLE BIT AT A

TIME. >> BOTH EXACTLY CORRECT. WHAT I FEAR IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE CALL IS A LOW SALIENCY ISSUE.

TODAY, THE AVERAGE RESIDENT DON'T THINK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER ISSUE. IT'S VIRGIN TERRITORY TO DO MESSAGING. IT'S ALSO A BAD THING. CLEAR WATER, ONE DROP OF RED FOOD DYE WILL POLLUTE THE WHOLE THING. ONE MESSAGE, ONE SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN COULD CHANGE PUBLIC OPINION QUICKLY. US GETTING OUT FRONT AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE BEST MESSAGE IS, TO YOUR POINT, IS REALLY IMPORTANT. BY DOING A SAMPLE POLL, IT GIVES US AN IDEA WHAT WILL SELL. FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE MOST OF WHAT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LIKE, PUBLIC SPACES, ACCESS TO WATER. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IT TURNED INTO A HIGHRISE CONDO DEVELOPMENT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, I'M GUESSING AS TO WHAT THEY WOULD OR WOULDN'T WANT. THAT'S WHY WE WOULD TEST IT IN THAT WAY.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT. I THINK THAT ALSO WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT FPUA IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THE SURVEY, SO ARE YOU GOING TO IDENTIFY IT AS A FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY PROJECT?

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO A DOCTOR AND THEY PUT THE THING UNDER YOUR TONGUE AND YOUR TEMPERATURE, BASIC VITALS, WE'LL TEST THE BASI BASIC VITALS AS THEY FEEL ABOUT THE FPUA TO UNDERSTAND TONE AND TENOR. IF THEY'RE POSITIVE ABOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE DIRECTION THINGS ARE GOING, WE'LL MOST LIKELY RUN A POSITIVE PROTECT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE CAMPAIGN AND IMPROVE THINGS. IF THEY'RE MAD OR ANGRY AT YOU AND THE FPUA OVER SOMETHING, RATES ARE TOO HIGH, WATER FLOWING IN THE STREETS, OVERFLOWING, WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE, WE'LL SAY LET'S RUN A CHANGE CAMPAIGN. THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S MY FIRST THING WE TEST. BEFORE WE START GETTING INTO ANY MESSAGING, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CITY OF FORT

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PIERCE? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR UTILITY AUTHORITY AND GAUGE THOSE. BECAUSE OF OUR EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPARE THOSE THINGS. WE JUST CAME OUT OF THE FIELD IN MATH LAND. LIKE 78% FELT GOOD ABOUT THE CITY OF MAITLAND. THE CITY WANTS TO BUILD A LIBRARY. I'M NOT SEEING THOSE NUMBERS IN A LONG TIME GIVEN THE ATMOSPHERE IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. SO SOMETIMES YOU GET REALLY STRONG POSITIVE, SOMETIMES YOU GET MIDDLE AND SOMETIMES STRONG NEGATIVES.

>> I JUST -- THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVANTAGES AND ECONOMIC ADVANTAGES RIGHT NOW IS NOT ON ANYBODY'S MIND EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO

ARE REALLY INVOLVED IN IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S A COST TO THAT. ARE THEY WILLING TO PAY THAT COST?

>> YEAH. >> IF THEY'RE ECONOMICALLY STRESSED, THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW IS -- HAS ODDITIES GOING ON. IF THEY'RE LIKE IT'S GOING TO COST ME $4 A MONTH, I DON'T CARE.

WHAT YOU SAID. IT'S SITTING THERE HAPPY BY ITSELF.

>> IT'S WORKING. >> IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T BREAK IT. WE KNOW YOUR ENGINEERS SAID THIS NEEDS TO MOVE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS AND OTHER REASONS WE NEED TO EXPAND. SO THERE ARE GOOD REASONS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE TESTING TO SEE WHICH ONES. WHAT ARE THEIR FEARS, CONCERNS AND HOW DO WE BEST ADDRESS THOSE. YOU'RE DOING -- MY OPINION IS YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR ALL THE GOOD REASONS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE LONG-TERM. BUT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN IS LOOKING AT PAYING A MONTHLY BILL --

>> THERE ISN'T A GROUND SWELL FROM THE PEOPLE.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT. >> I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE RESULTS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO TELL US A LOT. I THINK THE CITY COULD USE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING. SO I THINK IT'S GREAT.

>> IT WILL TELL US MORE THAN WE EXPECT. AND MAYBE THAT WE LIKE.

>> YEAH. >> MR. LAMMERS, IS THERE

ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >> MR. CHAIR, YEAH, THERE IS.

MR. VANCORE, YOU MENTIONED LIVE, IN-PERSON PHONE CALLS IS THE MAIN METHOD YOU USE TO CONDUCT SURVEYS. YOU ALSO MENTIONED IT'S GETTING INCREASINGLY MORE DIFFICULT TO GET AHOLD OF PEOPLE TO GET RESULTS FOR THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS. IN THE PAST, ARE THERE ANY PARTICULARLY USEFUL AND CREATIVE METHODS THAT YOU'VE USED TO ENSURE THAT YOU GET THAT REPRESENTATIVE STATISTIC BASE

WE'RE LOOKING FOR? >> DO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HOURS? (CHUCKLING)

>> YES, WE DO. BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND THE TRIED AND TRUE, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO MY MASTERS IN THIS AREA IS LIVE OPERATOR CALLS ARE STILL THE GOLD STANDARD. THEY'RE MORE DIFFICULT. WHAT WE DO IS WE SIFT THROUGH THE DATA ON A FRONT END TO MAKE SURE WE USE DATA FILES THAT HAVE REALLY GOOD NUMBERS AND ACCURATE NUMBERS. IT COSTS A LITTLE MORE. AND WE DON'T DO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO, SPAM CALLS AND AUTOMATIC ROBO CALLS. WE FIND THOSE PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY NOT TO RESPOND AND BURN OUT THE LIST. WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET PEOPLE TO WHAT IS CALLED AVATARING. THEY'LL SAY THEY'RE SOMEBODY ELSE THAN WHO THEY ARE. WE USE A VALIDATED, VERIFIED PHONE LIST AND THE TOP PHONE CALLING CENTER IN FLORIDA. WE WE'RE PARTICULAR. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WITH BROOKLYN AQ ACCENTS CALLING HERE. I KNOW IN ST. LUCIE, IT'S PROBABLY MORE POPULAR. (LAUGHTER)

>> WE'RE MEMBERS OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC OPINION RESEARCH. A BUNCH OF PH.D.S READING AND ADHERING TO THE GOLD STANDARD. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO DO GREATER MODELLING ON THE TAIL END TO MAKE SURE WE PICK FOUR OR FIVE VARIABLES, GENDER, GEOGRAPHY, USUALLY PARTY REGISTRATION IS A GOOD PROXY. INCOME, AND THAT USUALLY MAKES SURE OUR -- AND ETHNICITY, THAT OUR MODEL, SAMPLE LOOKS LIKE THE

POPULATION. >> OKAY.

>> IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD GIVE US MORE LIKE AN ADVERTISEMENT SPEECH THAT WE CAN BROADCAST SO THAT THEY WILL BE MORE APT TO ANSWER THE SURVEY? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR FACES IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO ANSWER THE SURVEY, YOU PROBABLY WILL GET A BETTER TURNOUT?

>> YOU COULD. BUT THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO. THE FIRST

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ANSWER I GAVE WAS BE REPRESENTATIVE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S RANDOM. BECAUSE IF WE PROMOTE TO PEOPLE AND ADVERTISE TO PEOPLE, ENCOURAGE THEM, LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S FIVE OF YOU AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB OF ADVERTISING IT. MAYBE YOUR PEOPLE WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO RESPOND. NOW, YOU SKEW MY REPRESENTATIVENESS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU'RE SELLING INSURANCE, YOU SAY NOBODY GETS, NO MATTER HOW SICK YOU ARE, YOU'RE GOING GET A SKEWED RESPONSE. GUESS WHO IS GOING TO WANT TO BUY YOUR INSURANCE PRODUCT? REALLY SICK PEOPLE.

SAME THING IN RESEARCH. YOU DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN THOSE TACTICS OR YOU GET SKEWED RESPONSES. SOMETIMES IT'S SKEWED ON THINGS YOU CAN'T MEASURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CAN BE. WHERE THEY LIVE, ATTITUDE OR BEHAVIOR. IF THEY'RE FOLLOWERS OF FPUA ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA OR THE CITY, AND SO THEY ALREADY LIKE YOU, RIGHT, THAT'S NOT A VARIABLE I CAN MEASURE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN ATTITUDE. IF THE CITY DOES WE'LL DO AN EBLAST AND TELL EVERYBODY LINK HERE AND TAKE THE SURVEY AND FPUA DOES THE SAME THING, WE'RE GOING TO GET A SKEWED SAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE FPUA. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT.

I WANT A RANDOM SAMPLE OF THE POPULATION. THAT'S THE TEMPTATION WE ALWAYS WANT, RIGHT, TO SATISFY THAT, BUT WE END UP CHANGING THE OUTCOME. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. OF THE IF IT'S BAD NEWS, WE WANT IT. WE WANT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR AND NOT SAY LOOK AT MY GOOD VITALS. LOOK AT EVERYTHING SO YOU CAN GIVE ME GOOD TREATMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION. HOW LONG WILL THIS LAST, THE POLLING?

>> SO WE HAVE A JOKE IN OUR OFFICE, WHICH IS YOU WILL BE THE HOLD-UP. WE WON'T BE. WE'LL DRAFT AN INSTRUMENT. ONCE WE GET APPROVAL, WE WILL HAVE AN INSTRUMENT IN BO'S HANDS IN THREE TO FIVE DAYS. ONCE WE BEGIN FIELDING IT, WE'LL LOCK IN TO GET CALL TIME. AND THAT USUALLY TAKES ONE TO THREE WEEKS. DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, NOW AS WE ENTER POLITICAL CONTINUE, THESE PHONE BANKS GET FILLED UP. ONCE WE GET IN THE FIELD, IT WILL BE THREE UP TO FOUR NIGHTS OF CALLING. I'LL HAVE TOP LINES THE NEXT DAY, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, I CAN'T WAIT TO GET THE RESULTS. I'M PRETTY SURE BO IS GOING TO BE TEXTING ME EVERY MORNING SAYING WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE? WE'LL SATISFY WITH A QUICK SORT OF TOP LINES ON THE FIFTH DAY. JUST TO SAY HERE'S THE BASICS. AND THEN, I'LL DO A DEEP DIVE WITH MY STAFF ON WHAT THE DATA IS REALLY TELLING US WHAT THE STORY IS UNDERNEATH. FROM THAT, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHAT'S THE GAME

PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT

VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: I HAVE TO ASK FOR APPROVAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT FOR STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION SERVICES WITH VANCORE AND JONES AND NOT EXCEED AMOUNT OF $49,500 FOR THIS.

>> DO WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO REVIEW?

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: YES. IT'S A SHORTENED VERSION OF THE FIRST ONE YOU LOOKED AT, MR. KOBLEGARD. YOU DID LOOK AT IT ORIGINALLY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE SECOND GO-AROUND. I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY OF IT. OF ALL WE BASICALLY DID WAS PULL THE FIRST COUPLE ITEMS OUT OF IT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS YOU REVIEWED ORIGINALLY FOR THE NEXT GO-AROUND WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO

TUNE IT UP MORE. >> OKAY.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL-CALL)

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: THANK YOU. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME

[I.1. U.A. Resolution 2022-01 Banking Signatory Updates Seacoast Bank; and]

RESOLUTIONS >> YES, SIR. THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE BOTH THE RELATED ITEMS. BARBARA MIKA WILL PRESENT THEM.

THEY'RE RELATED TO UPDATING OUR BANKING SIGNIFICANTS FOR BOTH SEACOAST AND PNC BANK. BARBARA WILL PRESENT THE ITEMS.

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

SINCE MR. JOHN TOMPECK LEFT UTILITIES. WE NEED TO UPDATE THE MASTER RESOLUTIONS AT BANKING INSTITUTIONS. I HAVE TWO TODAY. ONE IS SEACOAST. SEACOAST IS OPERATING ACCOUNT.

WE HAVE ACCOUNTS FOR OPERATING, REFUND AND MOAK AND OVERNIGHT INVESTMENT ACCOUNT AND WE HAVE PNC, MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT.

WHICH WE NEED TO UPDATE T SIGNATURES AND BACK IT UP WITH ALTERNATE SIGNERS. I HAVE TWO OTHER RESOLUTIONS AT A LATER DATE, PAPERWORK WITH THE BANKS THAT TAKES TIME TO GET THROUGH AND IN ORDER. I HAVE THESE TWO TODAY. THESE TWO ACCOUNTS,

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UPDATING SIGNATURE AUTHORITY. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS 2021-01, WHICH IS UPDATING THE SIGNIFICANTS FOR

SEACOAST. >> THERE'S NO REAL CAPTION TO READ. JUST ANNOUNCING IT LIKE YOU DID I THINK IS SUFFICIENT,

UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING. >> I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T CATCH

THAT. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: WE HAVE ONE

QUESTION. >> I'M SORRY.

>> IS IT USUALLY ALL THE DIRECTORS WHO ARE APPROVED

SIGNERS? HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> WE USUALLY HAVE THREE. I PUT IN A FOURTH ONE THIS GO-AROUND. IT ONLY TAKES TWO SIGNERS ON EACH ACCOUNT. THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE. THERE'S

BACKUPS FOR. >> OKAY.

>> EVENTUALLY WE WILL IDEALLY HAVE ALL THE DIRECTORS THERE BECAUSE IF THERE'S CHANGES FOR WHATEVER REASON, AT LEAST WE HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF DIRECTOR SIGNATURES THAT ARE

REQUIRED. >> IT WAS EASY ENOUGH BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY A SIGNER ON SEACOAST BUT NOT CHECK SIGNER.

WE NEED TO UPDATE SIGNATURES ON CHECKS. THEY WANTED EVERYTHING

NEW. >> THANKS.

>> THEY DO. (CHUCKLING)

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: MR. KOBLEGARD, DO YOU SUGGEST READING OUT THE

TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION? >> I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE

SUFFICIENT. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: READ THE

TITLE. >> RESOLUTION 2022-01 RESOLUTION UPDATING BANKING SIGNATURES FOR SEACOAST BANK INCLUDING THE MASTER UPDATE AND SIGNATURE CARD FOR SEACOAST BANK OF STUART, FLORIDA. THE SIGNATURE UPDATES REFLECT THE CHANGE IN THE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES AND REVISE THE SIGNATURES OF ALTERNATE SIGNERS ON ALL ACCOUNTS. SHOULD I GO TO

THE NEXT ONE? >> CHAIRMAN FEE: I THINK WE'VE

GOT TO VOTE ONE AT A TIME. >> OKAY.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I.2. U.A. Resolution 2022-02 Banking Signatory Updates PNC Bank]

(ROLL-CALL) >> RESOLUTION 2022-02, A RESOLUTION UPDATING BANKING SIGNATURES FOR PNC BANK INCLUDING MASTER RESOLUTION UPDATE AND MASTER SIGNATURE CARD FOR PNC BANK MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT. THIS RESOLUTION REFLECTS THE CHANGE IN THE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES AND REVISES SIGNATURES OF ALTERNATE SIGNERS ON THE ACCOUNT.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION, TOO.

>> I'LL SECOND IT. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. (ROLL-CALL)

>> THANK YOU. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: ALL RIGHT.

[J. DIRECTOR]

MR. DIRECTOR. >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TODAY. THE FIRST THING IS NOW, THIS UPCOMING YEAR, FIRST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THERE ARE A BIT OF EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO IN-PERSON TRAINING. SOME EVENTS ARE LIKELY AAPA AMERICAN PUBLIC POWER ASSOCIATION, FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION AND FLORIDA WATER ENVIRONMENT ASOCIATION ARE GOING BACK TO IN-PERSON. I'LL SEND A LIST OF EVENTS TO THE BOARD MEMBERS SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ATTEND, YOU GO IN-PERSON. THESE EVENTS ARE GOOD. THEY HAVE SESSIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS. WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN AT LEAST TWO YEARS. BUT MAYBE LONGER. SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE -- SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE AND TECHNICAL STUFF, HIGH-LEVEL TECHNICAL STUFF. WE USED TO DO THIS QUITE A BIT, TEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO. WHERE DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS WOULD GO TO DIFFERENT EVENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR. I'LL SEND THAT LIST TO THE BOARD MEMBERS. AND IT WILL LIKELY BE THE END OF THE WEEK.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LIST OF CALENDAR EVENTS FOR THE YEAR. SO THAT WILL BE GOOD. THE SECOND THING IS THE BIG EVENT THAT WE HAVE COMING UP IS THE FLORIDA LINEMEN COMPETITION, FEBRUARY 25TH AND 26TH. AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE EVENTS AND WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE. THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE'RE GOING TRY TO MARKET THAT HEAVILY. THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG EVENT FOR FORT PIERCE. FIRST TIME IT'S HAPPENED IN FORT PIERCE. SO EXCITE BIRTHDAY THAT.

ALL OF THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES COME WITH TYPICALLY -- AND COMPETE FOR THE TOP SPOT. IT'S EXCITING. IT WILL BE OVER BY THE EVENT CENTER, THE GREGORY PARK AREA. IT'S A FAMILY-FUN EVENT FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY. YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. ON CONSENT ITEM AGENDA D-5, I WOULD LIKE TO

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THANK THE BOARD FOR CONFIRMATION OF MR. DANIEL RETHERFORD FOR DIRECTOR OF UTILITY SUPPORT SERVICES. HE'S BEEN A GREAT ADDITION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM. HE COMES WITH QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE, SPECIFICALLY UTILITIES AND GOVERNMENT WORK. SO IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO THE TEAM. THE WRF DESIGN CONTINUES TO MOVE AT A GOOD PACE. MR. HUTCHINSON IS DOING A GREAT JOB MANAGING THE DESIGN ENGINEER. SO WE'LL LIKELY GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE DESIGN. SO THE BOARD CAN STAY UP TO DATE WITH THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION.

SO AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING I'D LIKE TO BRING AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD. IT MIGHT BE AN AGENDA ITEM. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TIMING. IT WILL BE RELATED TO DEBT RESTRUCTURING. YOU'LL LEARN MORE. I'LL MAKE SURE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A DEBRIEFING BEFORE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND BEFORE THE AGENDA IS FINALIZED. IT'S IMPORTANT. WE'RE LOOKING AT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THE WRF COSTS INTO THE REFINANCING. WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RELOCATING THE WASTEWATER PLANT. TONIGHT, WE APPROVED THE CONTRACT WITH BAN CORE. THERE WILL BE REEFFORTS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MARKET THAT. FPUA PARTICIPATED IN THE MLK PARADE YESTERDAY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MAURICE. HE WAS OUR DRIVER. WE LOOK TO HAVE A BIGGER PRESENCE IN THE PARADE IN THE FUTURE YEARS. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE TRUCKS. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. LOTS OF PEOPLE THERE YESTERDAY. AND LAST THING HERE, WE'LL START LOOKING AT OUR SCHEDULE TO SEE IF WE CAN MEET WITH BOTH BOARD MEMBERS AND CITY COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT THE WASTE WATER PLANT RELOCATION AND POTENTIAL RATE INCREASES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS AND THE BIG PICTURE. ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS AS WE GO TO DEBT REFINANCING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE

FOR THE BOARD TODAY. THANK YOU. >> CHAIRMAN FEE: THANK YOU,

[K. ATTORNEY]

SIR. ATTORNEY REPORT. >> NOTHING. I WANTED TO SAY AGAIN ON ITEM 5, THOUGH IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA AND TECHNICALLY MATTERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE VOTED ON SHOULD BE, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF CONTROVERSY. IT'S AN EXCEPTION.

(INDISCERNIBLE) THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T DESIGNATED ON THE AGENDA.

[L. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS]

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: THANK YOU, SIR. COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD

MEMBERS? >> I HAVE A COUPLE. HAVING THE

JULY MEETING, IS IT OF FMEA -- >> CHAIRMAN FEE: SEE --

>> THAT IS THE ONE I REMEMBER THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS ALWAYS ATTENDED. THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME FOR ME.

>> JULY 12TH THROUGH THE 14TH THE FMEA-FMPA ANNUAL CONFERENCE IS A REALLY GOOD -- THAT'S THE ONE I RECOMMEND AS MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS PARTICIPATE. BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S A PUBLIC POWER CONFERENCE. AND LUCKILY, IT WILL BE IN WEST PALM AT BREAKERS. THE IT WILL BE CLOSE TO HOME. THAT'S AN

IMPORTANT ONE. >> RIGHT. OF ALL THE ONES, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD. IT'S BASED IN FLORIDA. IT'S WITH OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE IN OUR

CONSORTIUM. YOU LEARN A LOT. >> A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PUBLIC OFFICERS LIKE YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN TALK TO.

THEY DEAL WITH THE SAME THING WE DO.

>> RIGHT. >> COULD YOU SAY THE NAME OF

THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. >> YES, THE FMEA, FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC ASSOCIATION AND FMPA JOINT ANNUAL CONFERENCE. WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET YOU A SCHEDULE THAT IDENTIFIES THAT EVENT SPECIFICALLY. AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO REGISTER FOR YOU FOR THE EVENT ONCE THE REGISTRATION OPENS UP. JILL WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR YOU.

>> FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THE PARADE, WEREN'T YOU GRAND MARSHALS IN THE SIGHTS AND SOUND PARADE?

>> YES, I WAS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT PARTICIPATION. ALSO, MR. CISNEROS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A BILL IN THE LEGISLATOR THAT IS ADVOCATING THAT UTILITIES DON'T TRANSFER REVENUE TO CITIES ANY LONGER. I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE DETAILS OF THAT.

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BUT HE IS AWARE OF IT. AND OUR LOBBYIST IN HAD TALLAHASSEE, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS WORKING ON IT. BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS A LOT OF CITIES AND IT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT WHY THIS PERSON IS ADVOCATING THIS AND SO THE LEAGUE IS GOING TO BE WORKING. I'LL SURE FMEA IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON IT. ISN'T THAT THE LOBBY?

>> YES, MA'AM. ON THURSDAY, I WILL BE ATTENDING THE FMPA MONTHLY BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING. WE'LL LIKELY TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT BOARD MEETING. SO I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. I CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THAT IS GOING BEFORE.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF YOU WANT THE BOARD MEMBERS TO ADVOCATE WITH LEGISLATORS OR ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AND I'D LIKE THE REST OF US TO DO IT, TOO. THAT'S IMPORTANT

TO THE CITY. >> JODI FINKLY IS VERY INVOLVED AND TAKES CARE OF ELECTRIC UTILITIES AND KEEPS US WELL INFORMED. I CAN MAKE SURE WHATEVER HE SHARES, I CAN SHARE WITH THE BOARD. IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT.

>> CHAIRMAN FEE: OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WE AT ONE TIME HAD SPOKEN ABOUT HAVING

A STRATEGIC PLANNING -- >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. LAST WEEK, FPUA, WE ATTENDED THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. WE REALLY ENJOYED BEING INVOLVED. AS FAR AS FPUA STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, I WANT TO MEET WITH THE DIRECTORS AND DISCUSS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THERE. THE I'M THINKING THE BEST WAY TO TACKLE THIS IS DO SOMETHING IN HAD OCTOBER. I REALIZE THAT'S AFTER BUDGET SEASON. ALSO, WHAT WE END UP DOING WITH STRATEGIC PLANNING AROUND BUDGET SEASON, WE DO A LOT OF BUDGETING. I'M HOPING WE CAN TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT MORE HIGH-LEVEL STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE. OCTOBER SEEMS TO BE A GOOD MONTH

FOR EVENTS AND AVAILABILITY. >> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WE STAND

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