[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF FEBRUARY 14TH, 2022.
>> GOT IT RIGHT, FRANK. >> GOT IT RIGHT.
AND IF YOU WOULD, STAND FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUD
AUDIENCE. >> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, IN THE VISIBLE WITH
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> AGAIN, THANK YOU.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW TO TURN OUR DEVICES OFF.
AS I DO VERY OFTEN BEFORE I START A MEETING, I'M GOING TO FIRST OFF INTRODUCE M MR. ALEXANDRIA EDWARDS, HE'S COMMISSIONER'S GAINES APPOINTEE REPLACING MS. JOHNSON SCOTT, WHO WAS MR. ALEXANDER'S, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S APPOINTEE. THERE IS A CHANGE IN COMMISSIONERS AND CHANGE IN BOARD MEMBERS.
IF YOU WOULD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
MY NAME IS ALEXANDER EDWARDS. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN FORT PIERCE SCHEDULED IN NEW PARK.
I GOT MY DEGREE FROM FLORIDA UNIVERSITY AND MAJOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE. SO BACK HOME, AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS. GETTING SOME VARIOUS EXPERIENCE AND HOME, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS GIVEN SO MUCH TO ME. SO THANK YOU.
>> WELCOME. >> AND YOU HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE, MIGHT AS WELL INTRODUCE OUR NEW EMPLOYEE.
>> THIS IS RACHIA WEIGHING. WE'VE BEEN SHORT STAFF FOR A BIT. I'M GOING TO LET RYAN, TELL YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIMSELF AS WELL.
>> I'M RYAN ALTICAR, ALSO A LINCOLN PARK GRADUATE.
I GOT MY MASTERS IN ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING.
THE LAST TIME I WAS IN THE CHAMBER, I WAS DANCING IN FOURTH GRADE. IT'S NICE TO BE BBACK.
>> I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER YOU. >> YOU WERE ENVIRONMENTAL.
>> AND ALSO ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING.
>> YES, YOU ARE. >> WE HAVE TWO MORE POSITIONS.
ANOTHER PLANNER AND GROWTH COORDINATOR, HELPING US WITH IMPACT FEES AND ADDRESSING. WE DO ALL THE ADDRESSING AND
VISITING. >> THAT WOULD HELP THE BUILDING
DEPARTMENT TOO; RIGHT?. >> IT WOULD HELP EVERYONE.
>> OKAY. >> IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CALCULATE THE IMPACT FEES, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. THE ADDRESSING COMBINED, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY, SOMEONE YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE A PLANNING BACKGROUND, BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD INTRODUCTION TO THE FIELD. REALLY WANT TO BUILD OUR
DEPARTMENT FROM THE GROUND UP >> YOU HAVE CANDIDATES.
>> NOT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT, BUT A FEW OF THE PLANNING POSITIONS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RYAN RIGHT N NOW.
>> ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT TODAY IS VALENTINE'S DAY.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CARD FROM YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER OR GIFT OR ACKNOWLEDGED, PERHAPS ON THE WAY HOME WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DO IT. I WOULD HOPE THAT YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER WILL DO THEITE THING TONIGHT.
>> WE DO HAVE PLANS. >> WE HAVE PLANS.
>> VERY GOOD. >> AND I DON'T NEED TO GO TO ANY DETAILS. ALSO, THIS WAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. AND WE HEAR THAT EVERY YEAR, BLACK HISTORY MONTH. AND FOR SOME OF US HERE TODAY, IT MEANS ONE THING FOR OTHERS, IT MEANS A SOMETHING A LITTLE
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DIFFERENT I GOT THINKING ABOUT IT.I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, HE SAID, FRANK, MY 10-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER CAME HOME.
THIS WAS IN MARCH HE ASKED ME, WHY IS IT BLACK HISTORY MONTH? AND THEN HE STOPPED. WHAT DID YOU TELL HER? I TOLD HER I DIDN'T KNOW. THAT MADE ME STOP AND THINK, I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER TO HIM, SO I JUST STAYED AWAY FROM IT AT THE MOMENT. HE GENERALLY BRINGS STUFF LIKE THAT UP AND HE'S LOOKING FOR THE WIZARD OF OZ TO GIVE HIM KNOWLEDGE AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TO GIVE HIM.
I STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT AND I SAID, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
HOW DID BLACK HISTORY MONTH GET STARTED AND WHY? YOU MAY THINK, IT'S AN EASY QUESTION TO GET AN ANSWER TO.
I SPENT YEAR AND A HALF DOING A RESEARCH.
I'M NOT DOING YEAR AND A HALF DOING RESEARCH.
I FOUND AN ARTICLE BY MARVIN DUNNBURY HE'S THE HISTORIAN PRESIDENT OF ASSOCIATION OF STUDYING AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY. THERE'S AN ASSOCIATION FOR EVERYTHING AMERICA. HE'S IN PART OF WHAT HE DID.
HE SAID, CARTER DREAMS WOODSON WAS THE FATHER OF BLACK HISTORY WHO FIRST SET OUT IN 1826 AND TRIED TO KEEP IN MIND THE DATES AS I GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS. I HATE DATES AND HISTORY.
YOU AND I HAVE THE CONVERSATION. I WILL SAY SOME THINGS THAT MAY UPSET SOME PEOPLE. IN 1926, HE DESIGNATED A TIME, TO PROMOTE, EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT BLACK HISTORY AND CULTURE, WHICH MR. WOODSON ENVISIONED A WEEK LONG CELEBRATION TO ENCOURAGE AND COORDINATE TEACHING OF BLACK HISTORY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
HE DESIGNATED THE SECOND WEEK OF FEBRUARY AS THE GAL HISTORY WEEK. AND THE HISTORIANS THROUGH THE ASSOCIATION AND STUDY OF NEGRO LIFE AND HISTORY.
WHICH HE FOUNDED IN 1915, THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF NEGRO LIFE, BECAME THE ASSOCIATION AND STUDY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIFE AND HISTORY.
THE FOCUS BROAD AND BROADENED THE NATIONAL CONSEQUENCES AND CORRECT TEACHING OF BLACK HISTORY IN AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM. THE IDEA EVENTUALLY GREW IN ACCEPTANCE AND BY THE LATE 1960'S, NEGRO HISTORY WEEK HAS INVOLVED ON WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
PROTEST AROUND RACIAL INJUSTICE AND EQUITY IMPERRIALISM THAT WAS OCCURRING IN MANY PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES, PIVOTED TO THE CHANGE I HAD TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT AND THINK IN THE 1960'S, I WAS ROLLING IN MY TEEN YEARS BY THEN, GETTING READY TO DO SOME THINGS IN MY LIFE.
I HAD TO THINK BACK IN THE 1960'S AND RECALL, WHAT ALL WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME. I LIVED THROUGH SOME OF THAT.
SOME OF YOU HERE DIDN'T. FIVE YEARS AFTER THE FIRST CELEBRATION, PRESIDENT FORD OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BLACK HISTORY IN THE COUNTRY'S 1976 BICENTENNIAL.
AND HE CALLED AMONG AMERICANS TO HONOR THE TWO OFTEN NEGLECTED ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF BLACK AMERICANS IN EVERY ENDEAVOR THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY. THE WHY, PRIMARILY, COINCIDED WITH THE BIRTHDAYS OF PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN WHO WAS
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INFLUENTIAL OF EMANCIPATION OF SLAVES.AND FREDERICK DOUGLAS, AND I HAD TO GO BACK IN MY MEMORY BACK THEN ON FREDERICK DOUGLAS. FREDERICK DOUGLAS WAS A FORMER SLAVE AND PROMINENT READER OF THE MISSIONARY MOVEMENT.
MY HOPE IS THAT, ALL OF US, AS AMERICANS COULD FIND A WAY TO COME TOGETHER STOP TEACHING ABOUT BLACK HISTORY AND TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY THAT INCLUDES THE BLACK HISTORY, THE GOOD, BAD AND UGLY. THAT GOES A LITTLE BIT TO PRIOR TO DISCUSSING PRIOR TO THE MEETING TODAY.
THERE'S A GREAT QUOTE BY SARAH CLARK, DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND CENTER OF UNIVERSITY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THERE'S NO HISTORY WITHOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY.
SHE WENT ON TO SAY, THE BLACK HISTORY EXPERIENCE EMBODIES IN EVERYTHING WE THINK BLACK HISTORY.
THERE'S A GREAT QUOTE THAT I DIDN'T WALK DOWN BY BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.
THAT'S A QUOTE THAT'S REALLY, REALLY EASY TO LOOK FOR.
IT'S A PHENOMENAL QUOTE AND IT GOES ALONG WITH MY THOUGHT AND MY HOPE AS WELL AS SARAH CLARK COPELAND'S COMMENTS AND HER QUOTES. I HOPE I WAS RIGHT.
I GOT TWO HISTORY TEACHERS HERE. >> EXPAND WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT, FOUR HOURS FROM SUNDAY, PBS AND THE TOPIC WAS THE BLACK CHURCH GATES DID IT, THE GUY FROM HARVARD.
EXCELLENT. IT TALKS ABOUT THE BLACK CHURCH IN AMERICA. AND THE HISTORY OF OUR BLACK POPULATION IN AMERICA WAS HELD TOGETHER WITH THE CHURCH AND STILL TODAY, VERY INFLUENCIAL AND THE PASTORS AND SUCH LIKE THAT. I WATCHED ALL FOUR HOURS BECAUSE
I NEEDED TO SEE IT PERSONALLY. >> I KIND OF FEEL LIKE.
WE'VE GOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TO INCLUDE, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS BLACK HISTORY. IF YOU GO TO THE MUSEUM AND START GOING TO THE AREA OF HISTORY, YOU WILL FIND THAT NATIONALITIES AND ETHNIC GROUPS RECIPROCATED IN HISTORY.
IF IT'S AMERICAN HISTORY, IT'S AMERICAN HISTORY.
GET IT IN THE PAGES AND GET IT RIGHT AND TEACH IT.
CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >> MS. CLEMENTS, MR. ALBURRY,
MR. EDWARDS >> PRESENT, CLAIREMAN MILLER?
>> PRESENT >> THERE'S NO ABSENCES.
[a. Minutes from the January 10, 2022 meeting]
WELCOME TO THE BOARD, MR. EDWARDS>> THANK YOU. >> ENTERTAIN THE MOTION FOR THE
MINUTES. >> MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE
MINUTES. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. BIRD. CALL THE ROLE.
>> MR. ALBURRY. >> MR. EDWARDS?
[a. Conditional Use and Site Plan - Flagship Self Storage - 3900 S. US Highway 1]
>> CREDIT, MA'AM. >> FIRST ITEM WITH NEW BUSINESS
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>> AND FLIGHT SHIP SELF STORAGE, 3900 SOUTH US HIGHWAY 1.
AND MR. GILMOR, YOU'RE ON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, BEFORE HERE, WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTION. I THOUGHT BOB WAS DOING IT.
OKAY. SORRY. >> WE HAVE A FLAGSHIP SELF STORAGE, AT 3900 SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1.
AND IT'S IN THE CORNER OF ST. GEORGE BOULEVARD AND SOUTH U.S.
HIGHWAY 1. APPROXIMATELY 6.8 ACRES.
IT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF CURRENTLY OF GEC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL RECENTLY ANNEXED IN THE CITY.
A REZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL C3.
AS YOU COULD SEE BEFORE YOU, IS THE SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN PROPOSED FOR THE SUBJECT SITE. IT INCLUDES AN APPROXIMATELY 95,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THREE STORIES, WENT FOR ADDITIONAL ONE-STORY BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
HERE ARE A FEW ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS.
SOUTH ELEVATION NORTH, EAST, WEST.
STAFF WITH HIS APPROVAL, FEW CONDITIONS, NUMBER ONE, CERTIFIED LETTER OF COMPLETION BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
NUMBER TWO, PRIOR TO TUITIONS OF ANY SITE COMPLIMENTS, THE APPLICANTS, WILL BE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD INCLUDE RECOMMEND APPROVAL, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CHANGES OR RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL. FOR YOU, ARE THE STAFFS TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU
MAY HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS, SIR
>> I HAVE THE TWO QUESTIONS. MR. GILMOR, WHAT'S TRIGGERING THE CONDITIONS ON THIS? IS IT THE ACTUAL USE ITSELF?
>> ACTUAL USE. >> BECAUSE SELF STORAGE IS A PARTICULAR USE IN THE CLASSIFICATION?
>> CORRECT. >> SECOND QUESTION IS MORE OF A MACRO QUESTION. I'M ACTUALLY THROWING IT FOR MAYBE A RHETORICAL QUESTION, OBVIOUSLY.
IT SEEMS EVERY MEETING IS APPROVING SELF STORAGE.
DO YOU GUYS FROM A PERSPECTIVE KINDS OF THINGS, HAVE A COULD BE SEPTEMBER WHY THERE'S SO MUCH DEMAND.
WE'RE APPROVING MANY OF THIS AS APPROVAL MOBILE SLOTS.
ANY IDEAS ON THAT. >> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE HAVE ASKED APPLICANTS, I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD.
I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR IT AND WHAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING A NEED FOR A LOT MORE RESIDENTIAL IS COMING IN.
THERE'S A NEED FOR STORAGE BECAUSE THESE AMERICANS HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO STORE. I BELIEVE THAT WHAT I'VE HEARD, THEY ARE LOW MAINTENANCE SELF-CONTAINED DIEBUSEIVES.
THEY ARE HEAVILY OCCUPIED SO THERE'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
WE ON STAFF, HAVE ASKED THE COMMISSION AND EARLIER, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST, WE WERE SEEING A LOT, AND, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION WE'RE GIVENS WHAT WE COULD, THE CITY DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MORATORIUMS. WE DO HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME JUSTIFICATION AND SOME ANALYSIS AS TO, A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO OUR REVIEW. THERE ARE ADJACENT CITIES THAT REQUIRE OUR MARKET, SOME TYPE OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT OR ANALYSIS AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING A LITTL AREASES WE WOULD LIKE TO CONCENTRATE AS WELL.
THERE'S PARTICULAR USES THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TO LOOK AT.
IF I MAY DETERMINE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WHAT WE ARE REQUIRING OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS IS THEY LOOK AND FEEL LIKE ANY OTHER OFFICE BUILDING WOULD LOOK. THAT'S WHY AS YOU COULD SEE IN THE ILLUSTRATION, THEY ARE HEAVILY LANDSCAPED.
THE ACCESS FROM MAJOR HIGHWAYS, SO THAT LIMITS THE IMPACTS, IF THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT AND LIGHT AND UPLIGHTING AND INTERESTING ARCHITECTURAL.
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WE ARE RECEIVING PAYMENT SO. >> IN LIGHT OF THE FACT, THESE ARE STORAGE. THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED WAREHOUSING OR FLEX SPACE OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF ACTIVE USE? A MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PER LOT OR PER SIZE OF A LOT? THERE MUST BE SOME RATIO SOMEWHERE, I'M ASSUMING.
>> CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, STAFF AND OUR CODE, WE DON'T REGULATE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON FAR, NO ONE HAS EXCEEDED THAT. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE PARKING, THERE'S LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA.
I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO THE PETITIONERS, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR CO
CODE. >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK. THE ANNEXATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE BRINGING INTO THE CITY, ALL THE HOUSES THERE THAT ARE SHOWN IN GREEN ARE STILL IN THE COUNTY.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE PART OF THE ANNEXATION PROPOSAL?
>> NO, NO. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THEY ARE
>> THIS IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL PROPOSAL.
IT'S A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. IF THOSE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION, YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IF YOU HAVE SERVICE AGREEMENTS WITH THE FUA, THEY ARE OPEN FOR ANNEXATION. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THERE'S A PROCESS. RIGHT NOW, AS YOU ALL SEE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, WE HAVE OUR JURISDICTIONS ALL OVER THE PLACE. IN ORDER, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE HIRED TREASURY PLANNING COUNCIL TO ASSIST WITH A BETTER AND MORE ACOMPREHENSIVE ANNEXATION APPROACH.
WE DID PRESENT THAT TO A JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY.
BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET INTO SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENT WITH THE BOUNDARY, SO WE CAN TAKE IN LARGER AREAS, RATHER THAN PIECEMEAL, WHEN A DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN.
IT WAS REALLY PUT BACK ON US THE COUNTY AT THIS TIME DOESN'T WANT TO PRODUCE THAT. WE HAVE HIRED DR. DEHANNY, TO COME UP WITH A BETTER APPROACH TO ANNEXATION.
IT'S A VERY TIME PROCESS AND REALLY PIECEMEAL.
IT'S NOT THE IMPACT WE WANT TO SEE.
SO BACK IN 2016, 2017, PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, THERE WAS A DRAFT SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY.
IT WAS NOT ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY.
IT BROKE THE CITY INTO FOUR QUADRANTS.
LOOKING AT ANNEXATION OF THE AGREEMENT, IT WAS NOT ADOPTED.
WE WILL TRY AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN APPROVED
BY THE CITY. >> THE SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE ENTITY THAT IS DURING THE PROPOSAL.
IT SAYS THE FLAGSHIP SELF STORAGE.
I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY FLORIDA CORPORATE FOR THEM.
THE LETURNIA CORPORATION WAS REGISTERED IN WISCONSIN BUT NOT IN FLORIDA. YOU COULD TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT TE ENTITY YOU'RE DEALING WITH AND IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, IS GOING TO BE A FLORIDA CORPORATION OR NOT?
>> CHAIRMAN, I WILL HAVE THE PETITIONER ADDRESS THAT, IF HE HAS THAT BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE BUT THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT THE FLAGSHIP STORAGE FACILITIES, THAT HAS COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
THE FIRST ONE WAS JUST APPROVED BY YOU ALL BY JENKINS AND
AROUND. >> I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED FOR THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON THIS.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE CHECKING YOUR ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
I WILL COMBINE THE DISCUSSION, SO YOU COULD KNOCK IT OUT AT ONE TI TIME.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE DON'T REPRESENT THEM.
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WE SIGNED A CONSENT FORM TO REPRESENT THE PROJECT.WE ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE CONTRACT, I KNOW THEY HAVE SEVERAL ALL OVER THE STATE. FLAGSHIP COMPANIES GROUP LLC IS WHAT HE SAYS, IT IS CALLED. THEY OPERATE MINI STORAGE FACILITIES. THEY ARE HEADQUARTERED IN
ORLANDO. >> THEY HAVE A SITE, EDWARDS --
>> I THINK DOWN IN EDWARDS. >> ONLY ONE I KNOW IS IN JENKINS
AND OKEECHOBEE. >> AND I THINK THE -- SPOKE ABOUT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY INVESTED IN IT. THEY CHECK ON IT EVERY MONTH.
THEY PAY THE CORPORATE TO GET MORE THAN NATIONAL-TYPE CHAINS THAT RUN IT AND THEY JUST GET THE CHECKS.
IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT. THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND.
WE TALKED ABOUT MARKET STUDIES. THESE FOLKS ARE PRETTY SOPHISTICATED. THEY WOULDN'T COME IN AN AREA, UNLESS THEY INVEST THE MONEY, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE MARKET STUDIES. THEY CAN SEE RATES OF OTHER FACILITIES IN THE AREA. THEY FIND, THERE'S VERY LITTLE VACANCY AND GO BACK TO BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT COULD GO INTO THE PROPERTY.
YOU COULD ONLY DO THE, COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THAT, IN PORT LUCY THAT WORKS.
AND IT WILL BE CREEPING UP, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SITES FOR MORE SELF STORAGE. AND I THINK, SELF STORAGE IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I ALWAYS TELL A STORY, FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT COULD BE VERY DIFFICULT IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS. IN THE WEEKENDS AND IN THE SUMMER, I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
SELF STORAGE, IS GOOD FOR BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
FOR THE CITY, THEY PAY A PRETTY GOOD TAX.
SO I THINK OVERALL, IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE CITY.
YOU HAVE TOO MANY OF THEM? I WOULD BE THE PERSON WHO WOULD LET THE MARKET JUDGE THAT. IT WILL BE $6-7 MILLION BY THE TIME IT'S DONE AND BUILT. NOT SO MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IF YOU COULD LEASE, AND STRONG MORALE REQUIREMENTS, WHATEVER YOU COULD MAKE IT FIT, THERE'S NO MAXIMUM AND MINIMUMS. ALL OF THOSE THINGS, YOU COULD BACK INTO IT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S EAST OF US. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
>> AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE COM COMPANY, THE COMPANY HAS SOME AGREEMENT.
>> THEY WILL BE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.
>> THEY WILL BE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.
>> THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
>> JUST ONE. JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCES, FOLLOWING IN THE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AND YOUR ANALYSIS HAS DICTATED THEM, BY NOT SOME TYPE OF MARKET DEMAND SURVEY FOR HOW MUCH SPACE.
YOU'RE LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE, BASED ON BUFFER PARKING AND HOW MUCH SPACE YOU COULD PUT IN IT, AFTER YOU DEDUCT IT OUT.
>>ND AN I THINK, MOST COMPANIES HAVE A PLACE, AND I OFTEN HEARD FOLKS IN FLAGSHIP, 100,000 SQUARE FOOT, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY NEEDED TO ORDER TO MAKE IT A GOOD INVESTMENT TO THEM.
AND A COUPLE OF THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT.
AND I THINK EVERY COMPANY WILL BE DIFFERENT.
I COULD TELL YOU, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT MOST DEVELOPERS DON'T LEAVE ANY ROOM OF EXPANSION, IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO IT IN THE BEGINNING. THAT'S THE MAGIC NUMBER.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER KIND OF TECHNICAL QUESTION.
WOULD THIS BE -- WOULD IT BECOME BEFORE THE ANNEXATION OR AFTER.
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>> IT CAN. >> IS THAT THE SAME THING, THE SAME ANNEXATION WILL BE HEARD AID PROVED.
>> AND MS. DREW. QUESTION I HAVE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH STORAGE FACILITIES AS A WHOLE.
WE HAVE BEEN APPROVING A NUMBER OF THOSE.
WHAT CONVERSION WOULD THEY DO, IF THEY CHOSE TO DO IT, NOT AS A STORAGE UNIT. WHAT COULD THEY DO.
AND I'M CAUTIOUS ON WHETHER OR NOT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WOULD COME IN, AS A STORAGE UNIT FIND OUT THE MARKET IS NOT FAR ENOUGH AND TRY TO CONVERT THOSE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>> FOR THEM TO JUST CONVERT IT, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE.
FIRST, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE USE TABLE.
YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED.
THIS IS C-3. THE USES ARE EITHER BY WRITE OR PERMISSIBLE USE, WHICH WOULD BRING YOU BACK HERE.
IF IT DUNN CHANGE THE SITE PLAN, IT WOULD BE OKAY BY PLANNING IN THAT REGARD, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, TO MAKE SURE, THE CHANGE OF USE DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE BUILDING WITH AFFORD TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT WILL REQUIRE COMPLETE ZONING. THERE'S NO WINDOWS, SO THE BUILDING ITSELF, IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU GO THROUGH A REZONING, IT'S -- THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL.
>> WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AS FAR AS DISCUSSIONS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE EAST OF THIS FACI
FACILITY. >> WE'VE REACHED OUT.
AND SOMETIMES, MY PRACTICE TO EARN TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY OF THEM. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY REAL
NEED FOR THE PROJECT >> I POSTED IT MYSELF
>> DIDN'T SEE IT WHEN I WENT BY. >> AND, THEY WILL RECEIVE A
>> PRIOR TO CITY COMMISSION. >> AND IF YOU NOTE, ON THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU WANTED TO BRING THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, THERE'S HEAVY LANDSCAPING. THERE'S QUITE THE BUFFER WITH THE RETENTION AREA ON THAT, EASTERN SIDE AND SOUTHERN.
THE EASTERN ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL.
JA THAT'S BUFFERING AROUND THE PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK -- IS THERE A WALL REQUIRED? I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A FENCE OR A WALL THERE, TOO
>> THERE'S A FENCE REQUIREMENT. >> WHAT'S THAT GOING TO BE.
>> 6 FEET MAXIMUM. >> IN MATERIAL.
>> IT WON'T BE CHAIN LINK. IT CAN'T BE CHAIN LINK.
BECAUSE OF PROPERTY, U.S. HIGHWAY 1.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MATERIAL. BRAD MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
>> TWO OTHER OPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME, THERE WAS RESISTANCE, DUE TO CONCRETE DUE TO COST.
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO DELINEATE THAT THERE'S A FENCE GOING IN.
>> HE'S SAYING ON THIS ONE, YEAH >> TYPICALLY, THE BUILDINGS THIS SELVES, ALMOST ACT AS A WALL. WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE PROVIDED THIS, FROM THE VERY NORTH ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH, IT WOULD BE A CONTINUOUS WALL. IT WOULD BE THE PART OF THE BUILDING, IT COULD APPEAR TO THE WALL AS WELL.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL WALL.
WE ARE PROVIDING THE SECURITY. IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, WE HAVE A WALL, A CONCRETE WALL THAT CONNECTS THE BUILDINGS.
FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE CONTINUOUS WALL.
AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO THE SCREENING THAT'S PART OF THE BUILDING. WE HAVE TWO ROWS OF LANDSCAPING.
WE HAVE ONE DIRECTLY ON THE BUILDING.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE ROW OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THE RIGHT AWAY. AND THE COUNTY WILL REQUIRE US TO HAVE SIDEWALKS, AS LONG AS ALONG ST. JAMES.
WE WILL DO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL.
I TRIED TO GET OUT OF THAT. THEY REQUIRE AT THIS POINT, TO
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BUILD THE SIDEWALK. WE HAVE A SIDEWALK GOING IN THERE AS WELL. .>> U.S. 1, WHERE THERE'S A TRAVEL LANE.
I COULD SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE OTHER BUILDINGS, YOU WOULD BUILD A CONCRETE WALL AND BASICALLY FILL IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRY
AREA THERE. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
NORTH END OF THE SITE? >> IT WOULD BE THE NORTH END.
YOU HAVE A GATED ACCESS. >> THE GATE IS NOT SHOWING.
THE GATE IS IN THE NORTH END. SO THOSE SMALLER BUILDINGS, THE TYPICAL DRIVEUP, ON AIR CONDITIONING SPACE.
IT'S JUST TO THE NORTHERN END OF TWO-STORY BUILDING.
THAT ENTIRE AREA WILL BE SECURED.
IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, YOU COULD SEE WALLS THAT CONNECT THE BUILDINGS TO HELP PUT OUT SECURITY, ALSO TO HELP PROVIDE SECURITY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE INSIDE.
>> AND BUILDING THE CONCRETE. >>ND A THAT'S DETAILED IN THE
PLAN? >> I'M LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. WE HAD TO DO A GATE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS, FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO GET ON THE BUILDING. YOU HAVE A MAIN DOOR IN THE AREAS, TO PROVIDE ACCESS, IF THERE'S A POWER, SO THERE'S FIRE DEPARTMENT. MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS A WALL.
>> WE CAN PUT THAT IN AS A -- I'M ASSUMING.
>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. >> THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE BOAT
AND RV STORAGE THERE. >> WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY OF THAT ON THIS ONE. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR A
>> THE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE MAY HAVE IT.
I'M SO SORRY GIEGS. THIS PLAN CHANGED.
WE FLIPPED IT. I JUST GRABBED THE WRONG PILE
>> WE ORIGINALLY HAD OUTDOOR STORAGE.
THE AREA IN THE MIDDLE THERE AND IN THE NORTH END, IT'S 3,940 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. SO IT WILL HAVE DOORS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND NORTH SIDE. IT WILL LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING
ELSE >> I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE THAT WILL CREATE A PROBLEM, GETTING IN AND OUT OF U.S. 1.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> I WANT TO CONFIRM ONE THING.
ON YOUR SITE PLAN, IT'S INDICATED AS A GATED ACCESS,
>> THAT'S NOT SHOWING UP IN THE PLAN.
>> IT'S A RENDERING FOR DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES BUT IT IS
IN THE PLAN. >> GATE IS UP ON U.S. 1
GATE IS UP >> THAT'S THE GATE.
>> OKAY. >> THE SIGN IS CORRECT, IT'S NOT -- IT WILL BE A ROT IRON FEATURE SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THE SITE PLAN OR NOT, BUT HE TEXTED ME. HE'S LISTENING.
WHEN THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, THAT WILL BE A WALL OVER IT.
>> EVERYBODY IS LISTENING ALL THE TIME.
FROM PLANNING'S PERSPECTIVE, ROD IRON SEPARATION.
>> I THINK IT'S PRETTY NICE. >> LANDSCAPING.
>> I'M GOOD. >> I'M A FAN TYPICALLY, I ACTUALLY LIKE A BLACK CHAIN-LINK FENCE WITH THE HEDGE.
BY THE TIME THE HEDGE GOES UP, IT'S LOW MAINTENANCE.
PARTICULARLY, WITH THE IRRIGATION WATER IN FLORIDA, IF YOU GET ANY IRRIGATION WATER, IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT GREAT.
WITH A TWO FOOT HEDGE, LET THE HEDGE GROW TO 6 FOOT.
THAT'S THE BEST BUFFER. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
>> WE WON'T GET INTO THAT ONE. YOU THREW THE GENTLEMAN WATER.
>> WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER.
>> TO THE SIDE BAR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, ANYONE SPEAKING TO OR OPPOSED. NOT SEEING ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER. WELCOME BACK TO THE PRIVATE PORTION OF THE MEETING. AND NOTHING FURTHER.
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IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> SECOND.
>> WITH THE CONDITIONS? >> YEAH.
>> WE HAVE A SECOND. DID WE HAVE A MOTION.
>> I MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS.
>> CALL ROLL. >> MR. ED BROAD RICK.
>> WE WILL SEE YOU AT THE COMMISSION.
[8. DIRECTOR'S REPORT]
>> PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HERE?
DIRECTORS REPORT? >> I HAVE NONE THIS AFTERNOON.
[9. BOARD COMMENTS]
WELCOME MR. EDWARDS, WELCOME TO HAVE YOU HERE.>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF IN REGARDS TO ALDIE RESTAURANT WEST OF TOWN. I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING WE GOT INTO A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF AN ENTRANCE OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE CURRENT ENTRANCE THAT'S OFF OKEECHOBEE ROAD. IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS OR ISN'T, THE STAFF INDICATED THE ADDITIONAL ENTRANCE FURTHER EAST WOULD NOT BE WARRANTED AND/OR HAS NOT BEEN LOOKED AT BUT WILL BE LOOKED AT BY THE COUNTY?
>> NO, THAT'S F. DOT ROAD. THEY WERE NOT CLEAR FOR THE
ADDITIONAL, DUE TO THE DISTANCE. >> THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT ENTRANCE THAT THAT IS GOING TO GET CLUTTERED UP?
>> BETWEEN WAH AND -- >> AND THIS PROPERTY.
>> BECAUSE I HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT ASKED TO LOOK INTO THE ASPECT DURING THE TRAFFIC STUDY OR HAVE THEIR CONSULTANTS LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, THAT WAS NOT LOOKED AT ALL, BESIDES POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL ENTRANCE ON THE FURTHER EAST ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD.
>> IF I MAY RESPOND, TO THAT CHAIRMAN.
WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC STUDIES, THOSE ARE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE AT TRC BY OUR COUNTY. IF THEY WANT ONE, WE PROVIDE IT.
IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WARRANTS A THIRD PARTY REVIEW, WE WILL ASK FOR THAT OR WE WILL, OR ONE OF US WILL TAKE THAT ON.
WITH RASHED TO OKEECHOBEE, THAT'S A STATE ROAD.
SO THAT WOULD NOT BE A -- SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PROVIDE FOR A DRIVEWAY, ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY THAT WILL COME FROM OUR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
YOU ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT WAS APPROVED AS A CROSS ACCESS, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY TAKING ON, AND ALSO A DRAINAGE TO THE EAST.
IT WAS NOT ABLE, YOU KNOW, TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
>> I WANTED TO GET THAT -- SO NOW IT'S CLEAR IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I HEARD, IS INCORRECT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR HELPING ME WITH THAT. >> THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION WITH THE TRC MEETING CONCERNING THAT SITE, CONCERNING TRAFFIC. ON THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS ALL DISCUSSION TO JENKINS ROAD, NOT TO OKEECHOBEE.
AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE OKEECHOBEE IS F-DOT AND JACOBS IS COUNTY.
>> AND FDRC IS ALSO A MEMBER OF FDIC.
IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS, THERE WOULD BE A DRAFT OR IF THEY NEED
A PERMIT, THEY HAVE TO SEE FDOT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION OF TRAFFIC STUDIES ALSO. IS THE IMPACT OF BRIGHT LINE DRAINS BEING CONSIDERED DURING TRAFFIC STUDIES?
>> TO THE BEST OF MY ACKNOWLEDGE, NO, WE'RE NOT RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT THAT. WE ONLY HAD ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COME FORWARD IS KING'S LINING.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE HIRED TO DO A NUMBER OF CONSULTANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR DOWNTOWN AND MANY OF OUR ASPECTS, ONE OF THEM BEING TRAFFIC. WE HIRED MOBILITY EXPERT, WHO THE COUNTY, THE CITY COMMISSIONER RATHER, DID APPROVE, OF THAT SCOPE OF THE LAST MEETING LAST WEEK.
WE HAVE ALREADY MET AND THAT ANALYSIS WILL TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION, FUTURE. >> ANYTHING ELSE.
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I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK NOTE, TWO THINGS, I GUESS, REALLY.ONE, ALL OF US SHOULD PROBABLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONER AGENDA MEETING FROM THE MORNING.
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WAS IN AND DATED RATHER THOROUGH REPORT.
AND IT CAUGHT MY EYE, IS THAT, AT 67 COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ST. LUCIE COUNTY CAME IN 9TH.
WE HAD 94.5 PERCENT GRADUATION RATE.
THEY BROKE IT DOWN TO ETHNIC GROUPS AND CERTAIN DEGREE.
BUT THE MAXIMUM TOTAL AVERAGE WITH 9.9 PERCENT, IN 2021.
>>. >> I THINK IT'S PHENOMENAL FOR COUNTY. AND WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THE NUMBERS TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, CLOSER TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
I THINK IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN EDUCATION, THAT'S A GOOD MEETING IT THIS MORNING TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
IT'S ON THE VIDEO, ON THE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.