Mar 07, 2022 City Commission Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AS THIS IS MONDAY MARCH 7TH, 2022 THIS IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY CHRIS FOGAL BY THE TREASURER COAST CHRISTIAN

ALLIANCE. >> GRACIOUS FATHER GOD WE JUST TONIGHT WE KEEP IN MIND OUR PRAYERS FOR THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE. FATHER, JUST SEVERAL WEEKS AGO THEIR CITY LEADERS WERE MEETING LIKE WE'RE MEETING TONIGHT AND THINGS HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED SO WE PRAY FOR THEIR FAMILIES WE PRAY FOR THEIR SAFETY AND TONIGHT WE PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

WE PRAY FATHER GOD THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM GODLY WISDOM TO DIRECT THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AND WE JUST OFFER THIS IN YOUR SERVICE. AMEN.

AMEN. >>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MEETING. >> VOTE FOR APPROVAL.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. Flood Awareness Week ]

>> NEXT WE HAVE A FLOOD AWARENESS PROCLAMATION.

SO WHEREAS FORT PIERCE HAS EXPERIENCED SEVERE WEATHER IN THE PAST IN THE FORM OF EXTREME RAINFALL RESULTING IN FLOODING IN BOTH COASTAL AND RIVER AREAS.

IN THIS FLOODING HAS CAUSED DAMAGE AND FLOOD LOSSES TO HOMES AND BUILDINGS IN ALL AREAS WHETHER THEY ARE HIGH RISK, SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAS OR LOW TO MODERATE RISK FLOOD ZONES. WHEREAS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS A VOLUNTARY PARTICIPANT IN THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES RESIDENTS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST FLOOD LOSS TO THE PURCHASE OF FLOOD INSURANCE AT REDUCED INSURANCE PREMIUM RATES AS WELL AS SETTING HIGHER REGULATORY STANDARDS TO REDUCE THE FLOOD RISK AND POTENTIAL FLOOD DAMAGE TO THEIR PROPERTIES.

WHEREAS THE REDUCTION OF LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY DAMAGE CAN BE ACHIEVED WHEN APPROPRIATE FLOOD PREPAREDNESS CONTROL AND MITIGATION MEMBERS ARE TAKEN BEFORE FLOOD. WHEREAS PUBLIC OF POTENTIAL WEATHER HAZARDS AND METHODS OF PROTECTION ARE CRITICAL TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA FLOOD PLAIN MANAGERS ASSOCIATION HAVE DECLARED THE WEEK OF MARCH 7TH -11TH 2022 AS FLOOD AWARENESS WEEK TO PROMOTE AWARENESS AND THE AVAILABILITY OF FLOOD INSURANCE, FLOOD PROTECTION METHODS AND HOW TO PREPARE FOR EMERGENCIES.

NOW THEREFORE MAYOR OF CITY FORT DO HERE BY APPROVE MARCH 7TH -11TH AS FLOOD AWARENESS WEEK IN FORT PIERCE AND FURTHER ENCOURAGE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO INCREASE THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROPERTY FROM FLOODING.

>> CONGRATULATIONS MR. THOMAS.

YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TO US?

>> VERY BRIEFLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR APPROVING THIS.

REALLY, THIS IS AN ANNUAL PROCLAMATION SO WE COME BACK ONCE A YEAR AND USUALLY IT'S IN MARCH IT'S THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH. THIS IS FLORIDA FLOOD PLAIN MANAGERS ASSOCIATION IS STATEWIDE.

SO ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE FLOOD SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAS ARE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION IN THEIR COMMUNITIES TO REALLY FOCUS ON HOW THE COMMUNITIES CAN BE MORE RESILIENT, HOW THEY CAN MITIGATE THESE HAZARDS AND TO REALLY JUST LOOK AFTER THE ISSUES LIKE FLOOD INSURANCE AND JUST BEING PREPARED IN GENERAL. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THREE MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF HURRICANE SEASON, AND WHEN IT COMES TO RESILIENCY AS AN ISSUE, WE WILL PREPARE AGENDA OR SHALL I SAY I WILL PREPARE A CONFERENCE AGENDA MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY AND POTENTIALLY PRESENTING A RESILIENCY PLAN FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. LAST WEEK WE WERE JUST SAYING HERE DO A DRY RUN AND BEING PREPARED FOR HURRICANES THIS YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE HOW CAN WE BE RESILIENT. SO WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION AND WE HOPE THE BEST FOR THE CITIZENS THAT IT DOES A GOOD JOB FOR THEM.

>> YOU TOO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> PAUL, WE NEED A PHOTOGRAPH.

[b. Arbor Day]

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HEART. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

MS. WALKER YOU GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS OR IS IT PAUL?

OKAY? >> ON BEHALF OF PUBLIC WORKS AND KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE 33 YEARS OF ARBOR DAY, AND THIS YEAR, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT J.C. PARK IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR THERE IS A MEMORIAL TREE THAT WAS PLANTED THERE ABOUT 23 YEARS AGO FOR THAT TREE HAS PASSED AWAY SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT AT 10:00 ON THE 12TH MARCH AT JC PARK. THAT'S ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP WHICH WILL BE THE SAME DAY, THAT EVENT FROM 8:00 UNTIL 12:00.

THEY USE THE SAME FORMAT AS WHAT WE USED LAST YEAR.

PICK A SPOT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

SUPPLIES CAN BE PICKED UP WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY OF THIS

WEEK >> HAVE YOU BEEN THE ARBOR DAY PERSON FOREVER, HAVEN'T YOU?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO 33RD YEAR YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE AND FWHAX THEY DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT MADE IT A LITTLE HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO STOP CUTTING THEIR THEIR TREES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

[7. LETTERS TO COMMISSION]

DR. KITTAMS SENT AN E-MAIL APPLAUDING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AT THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY'S FREE RABIES CLINIC BY DIRECTING TRAFFIC, EDUCATING PET OWNERS AND CITY PROGRAMS AND EVEN ROUNDING UP A DISTRESSED PET. WE RECEIVED MAUREEN VANNAME SENT AN E-MAIL COMMENDING THE FOLLOWING SPEAKERS AND THE PRIDE IN WHICH IN THEIR SO IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE GENTLEMAN KOLBBY

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WASHINGTON -- >> ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS.

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. >> ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IF NOT I WILL SBRAN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOW A MAGIC BOX ON THESE REQUESTS THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN SAYS YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY ANYTHING BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS WHERE THEY WANT IT TO GO TO 0. WE WILL LOOK AT THIS INDIVIDUALLY. I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE GOING THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING KNOWING THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER LAYER, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE, MAYBE WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF. BUT YOU KNOW JUST TO CHECK A BOX TO SAY HEY, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND FORGIVE.

IF YOU READ SOME OF THE REASONS ON IT IT'S LIKE I BOUGHT A TAX DEED, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN FOUND OUT THAT THIS THING, THE PROPERTY HAD A LIEN ON IT.

WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF BUYING TAX LIENS YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING ESPECIALLY.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THE PROBLEMS. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. THERE ARE CERTAIN CASES THAT WILL COME IN FRONT OF US THAT REALLY YOU KNOW REALLY NEED SOME CONSIDERATION. BUT THIS BLANKETED.

I WANT ZERO, I JUST FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE THAT PROCESS IS NOT WORKING THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD.

IT'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN FIX TONIGHT.

BUT HERE WE ARE WITH THIS AND I JUST THAT I THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO APPROACH THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW WE ARE THE APPEAL FOR THAT. SO, THAT THERE MAY BE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU KNOW THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SUPPORT GOING AND HELPING IN ANY WAY THAT WE COULD OTHER THAN WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH, I WENT THROUGH SOME AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS MANY IN A LONG TIME ALTOGETHER, ALTOGETHER, THEY DO, THEY DO ALL IT SEEMS PREDOMINANTLY THAT THEY ASK FOR IT TO BE REDUCED TO ZERO. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION OR -- I MEAN.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

>> IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A BOX THERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS TO GO TO ZERO CHECK BOX.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT IS. WE DIDN'T ALWAYS GET THAT.

THERE WERE SOME THAT HAD THERE WERE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE GOT TO WEIGH IN ON, WE GOT TO HEAR.

THEY NORMALLY SHOW UP THEY SPEAK TO US BEFOREHAND.

IT'S ACTUALLY HELD IN SOME FORM OF A COURT OF APPEAL.

WELL, THIS IS NOT A COURT OF APPEAL.

IF THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION THEN BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE THAT I DIDN'T GIVE ANY CITIZEN, YOU KNOW THEIR DUE AT LEAST TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT GOT THEM

TO THIS POINT. >> RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER GAINS? >> I'M GOING TO JUMP IN ON THIS WITH COMMISSIONER PERONA.

I NEED TO KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW LIKE YOU SAID IS THERE A CHECKED BOX OR WHY ARE WE COMING TO THESE ZEROES.

WHY IS THAT EVEN AN OPTION. WE HAVE THESE FEES OUT HERE.

IF WE ALLOW ANYBODY TO ASK FOR A ZERO NERVE THEIR RIGHT MIND IS GOING TO ASK FOR A ZERO.

SO I'M LIKE YOU I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT COME BACK AND GET AN E-MAIL LATER SAYING YOU WHY DID SUCH AND SUCH GET A ZERO WHEN I HAD TO PAY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. SO I NEED TO LOOK AT THIS ALSO, COMMISSIONER, AND SEE IF THERE IS A BOX WE NEED TO REMOVE THAT BOX IF THEY WANT A ZERO THEY NEED TO COME IN HERE AND LET US KNOW WHY WE SHOULD AGREE TO A ZERO.

>> MR. MIMMS. I DO BELIEVE WE NEED A LITTLE CLARITY. BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK THE WHOLE APPLICANT REQUEST THING TO WEIGH EVERYTHING IS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMPLIANCE MANAGER

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APPLICANT IS REQUESTING. >> GOOD EVENING.

WHEN SOMEONE CONTACTS OUR OFFICE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ADDRESS A LOT CLEARING OR DEMOLITION WHICH MOST OF THESE ARE, WE PROVIDE AN APPLICATION.

AND THE APPLICATION DOESN'T HAVE A CHECK BOX FOR ZERO BUT IT DOES HAVE HOW MUCH IS DUE THE CITY AND THE DIFFERENT COSTS. WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING TO BE WAIVED AND WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO PAY.

IN ALL OF THESE CASES WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING TO PAY IS ZERO. THEY'RE FILLING IN THAT NUMBER. SO THE APPLICATION IS VERY CLEAR. THIS IS HOW MUCH IS DUE THE CITY, THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU'RE ASKING TO BE WAIVED THIS IS WHAT I'M AGREEING TO PAY AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE FULL AMOUNTS TO BE WAIVED.

>> MADAM MAYOR. >> SO WHEN THEY COME YOU PREPOPULATE WITH WHAT THEY OWE, YX, Y, Z PERSONS COME

IN. >> WE PROVIDE THE

INFORMATION. >> WE PROVIDE THEM THE

INFORMATION. >> THEY TAKE THAT INFORMATION TRANSFORM IT TO A FORM THEY GO DOWN AND SAY THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY ZERO OF WHICH YOU ARE PROVIDING

THEM WITH. >> CORRECT.

>> WHEN THEY DO THAT THAT TRIGGERS THAT LANGUAGE THAT'S SEEN HERE RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM.

>> CORRECT. >> CORRECT.

>> SO, STAFF HAS BEEN GOING WITH THE CURRENT POLICY THAT THE COMMISSION SEEMS TO BE DOING WHICH IS REQUIRING THE HARD COSTS AND THEN THE RECORDING FEES.

WE HAVE BEEN ADDING THE RECORDING FEES IN.

SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN RECOMMENDING AND THAT LANGUAGE, YES HAS BEEN LINDA AND I WENT THROUGH 17, 18 DRAFTS OF THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE HARD COST PLUS THE FILING FEES IS WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS.

>> SO DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU ASKED THEM WHAT

THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY? >> IT'S ON THE APPLICATION THAT THEY FILL OUT AND SUBMIT IS HOW MUCH THEY'RE REQUESTING TO BE WAIVED AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE OFFERING TO PAY. SO WHY ARE WE OFFERING THAT?

>> OH, I'M GOING TO SAY A BAD WORD.

>> I WANT TO SAVE YOU FROM SAYING ANYTHING YOU WILL REGRET, PEGGY. SO PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK AT, I MEAN, THIS IS A FORM WE CAME UP WITH RIGHT THIS ISN'T

STATUTORY OR ANYTHING. >> THIS IS A FORM THAT HAS BEEN SIMILAR FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

>> SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS PERHAPS RELOOK AT THAT FORM AND MAKE IT MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE FEEL SHOULD HAPPEN WHICH IS HARD COSTS FOR SURE.

HARD COSTS FOR SURE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, UNDER CONSIDERATION BUT SOMEHOW YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S NOT, I DON'T GO TO A VENDOR -- I DON'T BUY SOMETHING AND SAY WELL, THIS IS HOW MUCH I'M WILLING TO PAY, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I PURCHASE THINGS. I DON'T MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE

DO BUT I DON'T. >> MADAM MAYOR WE DON'T.

I GOT TO THIS POINT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO WHEN I BROUGHT IT TO COMMISSIONERS ATTENTION THAT I'M SEEING THE REPEAT OFFENDERS. THEY LET IT RUN FOR A WHILE KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN TO HARD COSTS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MY POINT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AS WELL, WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S THAT LIMIT THAT WE GO TO, RIGHT, THEN ONE OF THESE CASES IT'S UP TO $70,000, I THINK IF I READ IT RIGHT.

>> $71 I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW.

>> SO AT SOME POINT THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING AT US AND OUR INTERNAL POLICIES OF WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS. THAT REALLY CAUSED ME MORE HEARTBURN THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN GOING FOR A WHILE IN MY MIND. THEN WE GET DOWN TO THE HARD COSTS WHICH ARE A FRACTION OF WHAT THAT IS.

AND SO, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AND DISCUSSION ON IT.

MAKE SURE WE BUILD IN THAT TRIGGER THAT IT'S A LOT SOONER THAN LETTING SOMEBODY ACCUMULATE $70,000.

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T HAVE A STOMACH FOR YOU.

>> DID BRING THAT UP. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I APOLOGIZE. I DENY MEAN TO AMBUSH US ON THIS. -- I DIDN'T MEAN TO AMBUSH US ON THIS. IF WE WERE GOING TO AVOID AND APPROVE THINK NEEDED TO VOICE MY OPINION.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GOT $70,000 LOOKING AT FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE'S A LIEN LOOKING OUT THERE $70,000. OUR STAFF COMES THROUGH AND SAYS HEY, THERE'S MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING HERE PAY THE HARD COSTS AND WE'VE GOT GOOD. WHY IS -- WHY DO THEY COME

BACK AND SAY ZERO. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE

OPTION. >> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT BE HAPPY YOU HAVE IT AND MOVE FORWARD.

IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH ZERO, THERE ARE MITIGATING SITUATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED MAYBE IT'S TIME TO

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WE CAN DO THIS AT A CONFERENCE AGENDA, CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE'RE JUST NOT SAYING NO TO

EVERYBODY. >> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS I HAVE ALREADY ADVISED TO PREPARE THIS FOR A CONFERENCE AGENDA. WE HAVE A SET OF RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, ETC.

IN THAT FOR REGULAR CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS THERE'S BASIC PREMISE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE COMPLIED OR YOU CAN'T REQUEST. THE REQUEST WON'T EVEN BE ACCEPTED UNLESS THIS CRITERIA IS MET.

JUST TOSSING OUT AN IDEA WE'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY INCLUDE A RULE IN THERE THAT SAY A LOT CLEARING DEMOLITION REQUEST WILL NOT BE BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THIS CRITERIA IS MET. THAT'S INFORMATION I CAN PUT TOGETHER WE JUST WON'T ACCEPT ZERO.

>> MADAM MAYOR. >> WE SHOULD NOT DISCUSS THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION. FEBRUARY 22ND AT OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETING YOU ALL INSTRUCTED TO MOVE FORWARD FOR DETERMINING A FRAMEWORK. WE WILL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT WE WILL DISCUSS THIS AT THE APRIL 11TH CONFERENCE AGENDA. SO PEGGY AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT WE WILL BE PREPARED AT THAT TIME.

>> YOU ARE ALREADY ON THE WAY TOWARD THIS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER JARNG JOHNSON.

>> THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD IT IS THE FORMED I LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF THEM. ABSOLUTELY IT GIVES YOU THE OPTION TO TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY.

EXACTLY CORRECT. ANOTHER HEARTBURN THAT I HAVE. I GUESS WE CAN PULL THEM.

THE LAST THREE ARE SALES. YOU LOOK AT WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR THIS THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS ON THE PAPER WHAT ARE YOU ASKING US FOR WHY DO YOU WANT IT TO BE ZERO AND WHAT IS THE REASONENING BEHIND IT? SO THAT'S BUT THAT'S CATCH-22 THE SALE PRICE IS IT GOES ONTO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WHICH GOES TO THE TAX COLLECTOR WHICH SAYS THAT MUST BE THE VALUE SO --

>> YEAH, YEAH. COMMISSIONER GAINES DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD.

>> MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S MY D.N.A. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THESE ARE WHEN I SEE A BALANCE WHEN I SEE THIS BALANCE DUE ON OF $4,150 WE ARE AGREEING BY SAYING IF WE PROVE THIS WE ARE AGREEING THAT THE BALANCE IS GOING TO BE ZERO.

WE ARE AGREEING -- >> THEY'RE PAYING THE RECOMMENDATION. YES.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR ZERO. YOU ONLY PULL IT IF YOU WANT

IT TO BE ZERO. >> OR MORE.

OR A DIFFERENT AMOUNT. >> THAT'S THE QUESTION.

I'M GLAD I ASKED THE QUESTION.

I JUST HAVE ONE THERE'S A LOT OF THESE HERE AND I'M WONDERING IS THIS A FUNCTION OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING PROPERTY AND WANTING TO BUILD BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS IN MANY A LONG, LONG TIME.

SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHY? >> I BELIEVE A MAJORITY OF THEM ARE DUE TO TITLE TRANSFERS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO IN A WAY IT'S A GOOD THING. THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING PEOPLE ARE BUYING PROPERTY AND WANTING --

>> OKAY. >> SOMETHING ELSE TO

CONSIDER, MAYOR, IF I COULD. >> YEAH, SURE.

>> BECAUSE THE FIRST UP UNTIL -- THE REASON IS I'M GOING TO BUILD A HOME IS WHAT I BELIEVE I READ ON MOST OF THEM WHICH IS GOOD. THERE'S JUST NO BINDING CONTRACT SAYING I'M GOING TO BUILD THAT HOME WHICH IS WHAT COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON -- AS A MATTER OF FACT -- WE WILL HAVE UPDATES -- I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ON THE WAY WE HAVE A PATH TO A POLICY THAT I BELIEVE YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH. SO WE'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THEN COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RESOLUTION THAT AFFIRMS THE POLICY. THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE

COMMUNITY. >> HELP IS ON THE WAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHTY.

THANK YOU, MR. MIMS, THANK YOU MR. RAY.

ALL RIGHTY. IS THERE A MOTION.

>> UNLESS SOMEBODY IS GOING TO REMOVE ANYTHING I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 22-009 - Impact Fee Moratorium within Urban Infill and Redevelopment Area. SECOND READING.]

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VALUE REQUIRED BY SECTIONS 113-8, 113-15 THROUGH AND INCLUDING 113-19 OF THE CITY CODE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THERE OF AND CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MAYOR I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THEN MAKE A MOTION IF I COULD. I DID REPORT THIS TO THE CHAMBER AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MOVEMENT A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT ITEMS LIKE THIS ACROSS LOCAL GOVERNMENT

WITHIN THE TREASURE COAST. >> OKAY.

>> SO THEY WERE PLEASED TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

I WAS HAPPY TO REPORT IT. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> ROLL CALL]

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 22-010- An Ordinance amending Ordinance 21-137, Recorded at Book 4733, Pages 2465-2471, and extending the territorial Limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3450 Sunrise Blvd In Fort Pierce, Florida. FIRST READING]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 22-010 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 21-137 RECORDED OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK 4733, PAGES 2465-2471 AND EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMIT THE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, TO INCLUDE 3450 SUNRISE BOULVARD IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TO PLACE IT ON THE TAX ROLLS AS OF JANUARY 2021, DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ESTABLISHING THE ZONING DESIGNATION ESTABLISHING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE

FIRST READING. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> MR. GILLMORE. >> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 22-010 AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 21-137. DUE TO AN ERROR.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3450 SUNRISE BOULVARD AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY .24 ACRES.

VOLUNTARY ANNEXATIONS REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING.

THEY MUST BE CONTIGUOUS TO MUNICIPALITY REASONABLY CONTACT PETITION BEARS THE SIGNATURES OF ALL OWNERS OF PROPERTY AND THE AREA PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED THE ORDINANCE ADOPTED UNDER THE SECTION FOLLOWS DUE PROCESS AND NOTICE. CERTIFIED NOTICES WERE SENT TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND PLANNING BOARD REVIEW RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2021.

TWO PUBLICATIONS OF THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE WITH THE MAP ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2021, AND NOVEMBER 26TH, 2021, AND TWO READINGS OF THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE WITH 72 HOUR NOTICE NOVEMBER 15TH, 2021, AND DECEMBER 6TH, 2021. THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE FILED WITH THE CITY WITH THE CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF THE COUNTY AND WITH DEPARTMENT OF STATE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS CERTIFY COURTESY NOTICE TO THE ALL CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS DECEMBER 6TH, 2021. ONCE AGAIN, PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.

THE CITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2021, AND BEFORE YOU WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> VOTE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. ROAST

[c. Public Hearing - Resolution No. 22-R11 designating the property at 100 Blue Sky Circle, Fort Pierce, Florida 34947, identified by Parcel ID Numbers 2419-211-0004-000-8 and 2419-211-0004-010-1, as a Green Reuse Area pursuant to § 376.80(2)(c), Florida Statutes. FIRST READING]

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PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION OF SAID DESIGNATION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL RIGHTY.

FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>> FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>> MS. EARLY DO YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?

>> NO MS. COX MENTIONED THAT THIS WILL REQUIRE TWO HEARINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FOR THE DEVELOPER IS HERE MR. MIMS OR IF YOU WANTED TO

PRESENT ANYTHING? >> MR. MIMS.

>> WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BLUE SKY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MR. BRETT BRUMMOND.

SAID THAT CORRECT. HE WILL WALK US THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION AND THE REQUEST. AS TO THE REASON BEHIND THIS INITIATIVE AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ALL RIGHTY. SO I THINK I'LL OPEN THE PUN HEARING AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MR. MIMS. MY NAME IS BRETT BRUMMOND I'M WITH THE GOLDSTEIN ENVIRONMENTAL LAW FIRM WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANTS FOR DESIGNATION.

BLUE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE BLUE SKY LANDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON MCNEIL ROAD. COMPLETED DEFT WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF SCUND 64 RESIDENTIAL -- TOTAL OF 164 RESIDENTIAL TILE UNITS. PROBABLY BE BUILT IN TWO PHASES. PHASE ONE IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND PHASE TWO WILL BEGIN SOON.

THEANTS ARE REQUESTING THIS DESIGNATION DUE TO THE NATURE -- THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING THE DESIGNATION HAS COMPLICATED REDEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY DURING DUE DILIGENCE ACTIVITIES THE APPLICANTS ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT FLAGGED THE HISTORICAL USE A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENTAL RISK. AS A RESULT, THE APPLICANT WENT OUT PUT SOME SOIL BORING THAT HAD ELEVATED LEVELS OF ARSENIC JUST ABOVE STATE'S CLEANUP CRITERIA FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD AGRICULTURAL SITES ACROSS FLORIDA.

THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT.

HOWEVER, FLORIDA'S BROWN FIELD REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM PROVIDES A GREAT VEHICLE FOR BOTH DEVELOPERS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO FACILITATE CLEANUP LIKE THIS AND ALLOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIKE THIS. THERE ARE CERTAIN STATE-BASED INCENTIVES THAT COME AT NO COST TO THIS CITY THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO DEVELOPERS ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO IN CONSIDERING A REQUEST FOR A BROWN FIELD AREA OR GREEN REUSE AREA TO AVOID SOME OF THAT STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH BROWNFIELD EVEN THOUGH THE END RESULT WILL BE A CLEANER PRODUCTIVE PROPERTY THERE ARE FIVE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA TO CONSIDER. THE FIRST IS THAT THE APPLICANT MUST OWN OR CONTROL THE PROPERTY AND THEY MUST AGREE TO BOTH REDEVELOP AND REHABILITATE THE PROPERTY. IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT CONTROLS THE PROPERTY, OR ONE PARCEL, BY GROUND LEASE ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND THE SECOND CONTROL THROUGH A PURCHASING SALE AGREEMENT WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED THEIR CONSENT TO THE DESIGNATION APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE SECOND CRITERIA IS THAT THE PROJECT JUST RESULT IN ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY AND CREATE AT LEAST FIVE NEW PERMANENT JOBS UNLESS THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IN WHICH CASE THE JOB CREATION ENVIRONMENT DOES NOT FLY. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BRINGING 164 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WILL BRING NEW RESIDENTS INTO THIS CITY WHO WILL SHOP AT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND NOTWITHSTANDING THE EXCEPTION OF THE JOB CREATION REQUIREMENT THE APPLICANTS WILL CREATE AT LEAST FOUR PERMANENT JOBS AT THE PROPERTY PRIMARILY MAINTENANCE, LEASING STAFF, MAINTENANCE AND LEASING STAFF.

THE THIRD CRITERIA IS THAT THE PROJECT JUST BE CONSISTENT WITH LOCAL LAND USE REGULATIONS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS THE CASE HERE.

THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY WITH RESPECT TO PHASE ONE AND THE SITE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THE FOURTH IS THAT THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE NOTICE AND PROVIDE THOSE RECEIVING NOTICE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND ASK QUESTIONS ON THE DESIGNATION. THE APPLICANT DID THAT HERE THROUGH HOLDING TWO ADVERTISED VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS. BOTH WERE ADVERTISED THROUGH THE NEWSPAPER, LOCAL COMMUNITY BULLETIN AS WELL AS SIGNS POSTED AT THE PROPERTY.

WE HOLD THOSE MEETINGS ON FEBRUARY 24TH AND MARCH 4TH WE HAD NO ATTENDEES AT EITHER OF THESE MEETINGS.

FINALLY, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE REASONABLE ASSURANCES THAT THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO COMPLETE THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE REHABILITATION TO THE EXTENT ANY OF THIS IS REQUIRED.

HERE THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SOURCES IT IS FUNDED BY DEBT AND CREDIT. WITH THAT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NO ACTION IS REQUIRED TONIGHT.

BUT I DO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH THAT THIS BOARD

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>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE -- APPLICANT? ANYONE ELSE WOULD WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.

SEE NO ONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION OR DISCUSSION? >> VOTE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD MAYOR, IF I MAY, I KNOW YOU SAID WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION BUT BECAUSE IT'S A RESOLUTION AND NOT AN ORDINANCE WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU VOTE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU VOTE AGAIN AFTER THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE GOING TO RECORD BOTH OF THOSE VOTES ON THE FINAL DOCUMENT JUST SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR FOR

EVERYBODY. >> WE DID JUST VOTE.

>> YOU DID JUST VOTE. RIGHT.

YOU DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BUT IT'S OKAY.

>> I GOT IT. YOU CAN VOTE ON THE SAME ONE

TWICE. >> I GOT IT.

I GOT IT. OKAY.

>> JUST LIKE YOU DO AN ORDINANCE.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHTY.

[d. Resolution 22-R13, Authorizing the execution of a deed transferring two (2) parcels located near 322 N 2nd Street, the King's Landing Site, to the Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency]

>>> OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 22-413 A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY COMMISSION OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A SPECIAL DEED FOR THREE PARCELS LOCATED NEAR 322 NORTH SECOND STREET THE KING'S LANDING SITE AUTHORIZING THE FEE AND CITY CLERK AND CITY ANTHONY TO EXECUTE SAID DEED AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MS. EARLY. >> YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU.

MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO THE KING'S LANDING PROPERTIES. RESOLUTION 22413 IS A RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER TWO CITY PARCELS AND ONE SECTION OF AVENUE B THAT WAS ACTUALLY ABANDONED PREVIOUSLY BY ORDINANCE SO I WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. LET ME BACK THAT UP AND EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE DOING THIS.

SO, THE CITY, THE FPRA AND AUTOBAHN DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER FOR THE KINGS LANDING PROPERTY ENTERED INTO A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WHEREBY A NUMBER OF PARCELS 10 SPECIFICALLY AND A PORTION OF AVENUE B WILL BE TRANSFERRED ALL TO THE FPRA THEN FROM THE FPRA TO AUTOBAHN FOR DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT AGREEMENT.

WHEN WE STARTED OUT WHEN THIS ITEM FIRST WENT OUT FOR R.F.P. CERTAIN PROPERTIES WERE IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY, CERTAIN PROPERTIES WERE IN THE HANDS OF THE FPRA AND CERTAIN PROPERTIES WERE IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY DEEDED TO THE CITY FOR THE USE AND BENEFIT OF THE FPUA. SO AGAIN THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS TO GET THOSE LAST REMAINING PARCELS IN THE HANDSEE OF THE FPRA SO WE CAN FINALIZE THE CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS RESOLUTION 22 R-13 IS JUST A RESOLUTION ALLOWING THE APPROPRIATE PARTIES TO EXECUTE THE DEED TO TRANSFER TWO PARCELS AND A PORTION OF AVENUE B THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY

ABANDONED. >> AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEYS SO THIS WHY A PROCESS WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO MAKE THE TITLE AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE FOR ALL PARTIES, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR. YES, MA'AM.

SO AGAIN I WILL ADJUST EACH RESOLUTION AS WE GET TO IT.

BUT THIS IS THE FIRST ONE, YES, MA'AM.

>> ALL RIGHTY. AND MS. EARLY AND I DISCUSSED EARLY THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE OR ON THE E BUT THERE IS ON F.

SO DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> AMOVE APPROVAL. >> THERE'S MOTION AND THE SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[e. Resolution 22-R14, Authorizing the execution of a deed on behalf of the Fort Pierce Utilities Authority to transfer three (3) parcels near 322 N. 2nd Street, the King's Landing Site, to the Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency]

DATE. >> ALL RIGHT.

MS. EARLY YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING FOR THIS.

>> NO, MAYOR, JUST I WILL JUST REITERATE THAT THE PROPERTIES RELATED TO THIS RESOLUTION 22 R-14 ARE

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>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. OKAY, ANYBODY PREPARED TO

MAKE A MOTION? >> VOTE TO APPROVE

RESOLUTION 22 R-14. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[f. Public Hearing - Resolution 22-R15, Providing City of Fort Pierce authorization to the Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency to transfer ten (10) parcels near 322 N. 2nd Street, the King's Landing Site, to Audubon Development, Inc., for less than fair value as a viable community redevelopment project. ]

>>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 22-R-15 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO CONVEY 10 PARCELS LOCATED NEAR 322 NORTH SECOND STREET THE KING'SLAND SITE TO AUDUBON DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT DOES REQUIRE THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

>> I WILL JUST ADD THAT THE REASON AGAIN THAT WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER IS PER STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE AS I STATED EARLIER AFTER ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE DEEDS HAVE BEEN SIGNED ALL OF THE PROPERTY WILL RESIDE IN THE FPRA.

ALL 10 PARCELS AND THE PORTION OF AVENUE B THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ABANDONED BY ORDINANCE.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE ARE MEETING ALL STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTICE. AS THE GOVERNING BODY FOR THE CITY I KNOW YOU WEAR TWO HATS YOU WEAR FPRA AND CITY GOVERNMENT HAT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACTIONS OF THE FPRA IN THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION.

JUST ONE LAST THING ON NOTE, WHEN THE CITY DOES TRANSFER ALL REMAINING PARCELS TO THE FPRA WHEN THE FPRA DOES TRANSFER ALL REMAINING PARCELS AUDOBON THERE WILL BE ARE REVISION IF THE DEVELOPER FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THE CITY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REENTER AND RETAKE THE PROPERTY SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

>> GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONER?

>> I'M HAPPY SHE JUST SAID THAT.

I KNOW IT'S THERE BUT WE HAVE TO HEAR THAT ALL THE

TIME. >> RIGHT.

>> AS WE GET CLOSER TO THIS BECAUSE.

>> SO DOES THE PUBLIC. >> SO DOES THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THIS GO UNTIL WE'RE SURE WE HAVE IT AND WE HAVE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON IS SOMETHING.

ONE QUESTION LINGERS AND I KNOW THE ANSWER IT TO BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER STATE OR FEDERAL REVERTERS ON THESE

PROPERTIES? >> NO.

NO COMMISSIONER. >> OKAY GOOD.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHTY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEE NO ONE I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN

A MOTION. >> MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECONDFUL CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. Resolution 22-R12 appointing John Heaning to the Parking Committee as Commissioner Gaines' appointee.]

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> YES, MADAM MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 22-R-12 APPOINTING JOHN HEANING TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

>> THERE WAS A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Submittal of applications for the Historic Preservation Board. ]

THIS IS THE ITEM THAT IS GOING TO BASICALLY RECONSTITUTED THE PRESERVATION BOARD WILL BE REMOVING ALL EXISTING MEMBERS ASKING TO YOU REAPPOINT NEW MEMBERS. YOU WILL EACH GET AN APPOINTEE THERE WILL BE TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS.

THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DID REQUEST THAT, THAT YOU CONSIDER USUALLY WE DO THIS AT ONE MEETING AND THE NEXT MEETING YOU COME BACK AND VOTE.

BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A HISTORIC RESERVATION PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING ON --

>> AT THE END OF THE MONTH. >> MARCH 28TH .

SO THEY'RE ASKING IF IT WOULD BE OKAY IF WE WAIT AND HAVE YOU TAKE THE VOTE AT THE APRIL 4TH MEETING THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT HAVING BRAND NEW BOARD MEMBERS HAVING TO

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>> WITHOUT ORIENTATION. >> RIGHT, YEAH.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO APPOINTING THESE AT THE

FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. >> JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

IS THERE ANOTHER MEETING IN APRIL OR IS IT A PUSH TILL MAY WHEN IS IT NEXT AFTER MARCH 28TH.

>> IT WILL BE AT THE END OF APRIL.

>> SO THEY'LL HAVE THE ENTIRE MONTH TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED. OTHERWISE IT WAS GOING TO BE LESS THAN SEVEN DAYS TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED.

>> SURE. SO CAN WE MAKE IT ACTIVE WITHIN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND SAY TO MAKE THOSE MEMBERS ACTIVE THE FIRST OF APRIL BASICALLY JUST TAKINGING THE VOTE THAT WAY --

>> GO AHEAD AND APPOINT THEM BUT NOT HAVE THEM APPOINTED

UNTIL MID-APRIL, APRIL 1ST? >> WE COULD.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. >> THAT WAY IT GIVES THEM A FULL THREE OR FOUR WEEKS TO GET READY FOR THE END OF APRIL. WE COULD DO THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND CORRESPONDENCE THAT TELLS THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEETING IN MARCH IS THAT WE

WOULD VOTE. >> IT WILL BE THE 21ST.

IT WILL BE BEFORE THEIR MEETING.

SO THE NEW MEMBERS WON'T BE SEATED UNTIL APRIL 1ST

EFFECTIVE. >> FINE WITH ME.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE COMMISSION.

>> WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE CONSENSUS IS ALL RIGHT WITH

YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS WE USUALLY ANNOUNCE THE APPLICANTS THEN WE COME BACK INTO ANOTHER MEETING THEN VOTE. SOMETIMES THAT'S CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A VOTE TONIGHT. FOR INSTANCE, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT'S BEEN OUR PATTERN BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S JUST A PATTERN WE CREATED JUST TO KIND OF REMIND TO US MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING OUR BOARDS FULL.

I'M NOT SURE IF WE WANT HOW DO WE CLEAR THAT UP SO IT'S

NOT CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC. >> I LIKE THE IDEA WE DO I HAVE THE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET APPLICATIONS YOU SAY YOU WILL APPOINT NEXT TIME SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY OH, I'VE GOT SOMEBODY I REALLY WANT. SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET OTHER APPLICATIONS. SO I KIND OF LIKE THE LAYOVER BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

PEOPLE KIND OF GET OH, GOSH YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT

TONIGHT. >> THEY MIGHT COME TO THE MEETING AND SIT AND WE DIDN'T VOTE.

>> MAYBE WE IS THERE A WAY TO PUT THAT IN THE LANGUAGE

IN THE AGENDA ITEM. >> SURE SUBMITAL OF APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO BE VOTED ON AT AND I CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT THE FUTURING

MEETING THERE. >> HOW ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT WILL BE EASY. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHTY.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> IF THERE'S ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND HERE SHE COMES.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE YOU. >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES I'M SORRY BECAUSE I KNOW YOU PROBABLY COULD TALK LONGER THAN THAT BUT STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

>> THERTA STEELE. >> A PROUD CITIZEN OF FORT PIERCE. I CAME HERE JUST TO THANK THE MAYOR AND EACH COMMISSIONER AND MR. MIMS AND EVERYBODY FOR JUST SUPPORTING AND APPLYING FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM.

THIS IS A DREAM THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALITY.

I AM SO THANKFUL FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL.

THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A LONG HAUL.

BUT NOBODY GAVE UP, INCLUDING MYSELF AND WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE 1234 AVENUE D THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM RIGHT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE EFFORT WAS BORN AND DIED AND WE WILL HAVE A BUILDING RIGHT THERE TO HOUSE THE -- SO THANK YOU ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY WE WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND I CAN SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF SPEAKING FACE-TO-FACE. I JUST WANT TO THANK

MRS. ARDURA WOODS WELLS. >> WE ALL KNOW WHO SHE IS.

>> MISS SHEILA WISE FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

THIS BEAUTIFUL PERFECT APPLICATION THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF US ALL MRS. WELLS GAVE AN UPDATE AND THEN THEY WERE SO EXCITED WHEN WE CAME UP AND WE SCORED IN CASE YOU DON'T REMEMBER, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND 98.125 OUT OF 100.

AND WE ARE NUMBER FOUR OUT OF 152 APPLICATIONS.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. >> WE THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU. >> IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR PUT IN FOR YOUR PRESALE VOUCHER TO HAVE YOUR PAINTING ON YOUR CAR PLEASE DO SO.

YOU CAN PICK THESE UP. >> YES.

I'VE DONE IT. I'VE DONE IT.

THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT.

SEEING NO MOVEMENT WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

>> MR. MIMS. >> MADAM MAYOR MEMBERS OF CITY COMMISSION. WE DO HAVE A BUSY COUPLE OF DAYS IN FRONT OF US. TONIGHT WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

TOMORROW NIGHT OR AFTERNOON WE HAVE A MEETING OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

ON THE AGENDA WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENTS TO OAK INDUSTRY MOORES CREEK PHASE 2.

ALSO AN AMENDMENT TO THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE CHAIR OF THE C.R.A. ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THAT'S COMING TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL. AND OUR CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANT AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU AND WE HAVE FOUR WONDERFUL PROJECTS THAT HAVE RANKED AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED THE FULL ALLOCATION OF THE $25,000 AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL DEFINITELY SPUR SOME VERY STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES IN OUR C.R.A.

DISTRICT. AND WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONYA OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO BE FINALIZING THE RESOLUTIONS FOR THE CONVEYANCE OF THE KING'S LANDING SITE PROPERTIES TO AUDUBON DEVELOPMENT. THEN WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT LEASE AT THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL BY THE LINDSEY SCHOOL OF THE ARTS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEIR PROGRESS AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A CONFERENCE AGENDA MEETING A WEEK FROM TODAY. THAT'S GOING TO BE AT 9:00 A.M. WE'LL BE GETTING A SIX MONTH UPDATE ON OUR SHORT TERM AND VACATION RENTAL PROGRAM.

AS YOU KNOW WE'VE CHANGED THINGS QUITE A BIT.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM CURRENTLY AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE FROM OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSE DIRECTOR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY COMING HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TELLING YOU ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITIES AND ALSO REQUESTING YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE ON THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AT THE REQUEST OF ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS PARKING AREAS IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. AND I DO -- AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER PERONA IS GOING TO BE ALL INVESTED IN THIS.

BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PARKING NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW WE LEVERAGE OUR EXISTING CITY AND FPRA PROPERTIES TO DO SO. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP. THEN WE'RE GOING HAVE THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE GIVING US THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF J.D. PARK WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST VISITED MARKS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. AS WELL AS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT SPONSORSHIPS OF FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

SO, THAT'S WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

WE'VE BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY BUSY.

BUT THINGS ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING VERY POSITIVE IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> ALL GOOD NEWS. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING QUESTIONS OF MR. MIMS? OKAY. MS. COX YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IS WELL ON OUR WAY TO OUR NEW RECORDS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. I HAVE HIRED MR. JOE SMITH AS OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

HE STARTED LAST WEEK AND HE'S ALREADY YOU KNOW HARD AT WORK LOOKING AT OUR RECORDS STORAGE AND HE'S REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY LEARNING ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND HOW HE CAN REALLY MOVE THE CITY FORWARD TO DIGITIZING EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WE'VE WAITED A LONG TIME IS WE ARE ALMOST THERE WITH HAVING ALL OF OUR MINUTES, ORDINANCES, AND RESOLUTIONS AVAILABLE ON OUR ON-LINE PORTAL THAT THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE READILY AVAILABLE ACCESS TO AT ANY TIME TO DO THE SEARCH ON-LINE. SO OUR I.T. TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND I THINK THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET IT MOVING, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET IT MOVING.

AND IT WILL REALLY HELP US YOU KNOW, ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH.

THEY WON'T HAVE TO RELY ON US OR PAY FOR EXCESSIVE TIME. IT'S ALL THERE AT THEIR FINGERS FOR THEM TO BE UTILIZE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE CAN EXPAND WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEM TO SEARCH AS WELL.

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>> WELL, I FOR ONE AM VERY GRATEFUL.

TRANSPARENCY IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO ME SO I

APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. >> WE'RE EXCITED.

GOOD THINGS. >> MS. EARLY.

>> NOTHING TO ADD, MAYOR. >> ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>> COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

IS THERE A VOLUNTARY TO GO FIRST -- VOLUNTEER TO GO FIRST. COMMISSIONER PERONA IS MAKING A FACE SO COMMISSIONER STEVE JOHNSON YOU DIDN'T MAKE A FACE YOU WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION.

>> I WAS PAYING ABSOLUTE ATTENTION AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE MANY COMMENTS THIS WEEK BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

IT WAS A BUSY WEEK LAST WEEK FOR SOME REASON.

WE JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.

QUITE FRANKLY IT'S JUST THE MEETINGS HAVE REALLY JUST STARTING IT HAS BEEN A QUIET WEEK SO FAR.

I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S JUST REMEMBER TO KEEP THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN OUR PRAYERS. I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND AND SOME OF THE NOTICES THAT WE GOT AND RECEIVED.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN A CITY BY THE SEA AND BY THE RIVER THAT BELIEVES IN PRAYER SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO GET ANY UPTICKS ON ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

THIS WEEKEND WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW MORE INCIDENTS THAN I CARE TO MENTION. THAT'S KIND OF TOP OF MIND RIGHT NOW. SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, THOSE CONTINUED UPDATES SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER Y. JOHNSON.

>> NOTHING TO COMMENT, MAYOR.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> QUIET NIGHT.

>> JUST REAL QUICK MR. MIMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA MEETING I CAN TALK TO YOU OFF LINE.

I ATTENDED A VERY FIRST TIME TOWN HALL MEETING IN FORT PIERCE. I THINK SOMETHING THAT US AS COMMISSIONERS AND A BODY WE NEED TO LOOK AT A LITTLE MORE SERIOUS BECAUSE AREAS OF NOOD FOR SOME SHELTERS AND SOME OTHER THINGS OUT THERE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GOT SOME LETTERS FROM COUNTY ABOUT SOME MONEY AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN GET INTO.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT THE PUBLIC SAID LAST THURSDAY NIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF SOLUTION FOR THE HOMELESSNESS IF WE CAN.

OTHER THAN, THAT MAYOR, I WOULD JUST TELL THE COMMISSION TO, IF YOU HAVE NOT GO BACK AND REVIEW THE SUMMARY OF BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED IN TALLAHASSEE.

I KNOW WE GOT THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT OUR MUSEUM.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER BILLS THAT HAVE PASSED THAT'S GOING TO MAKE US SCRATCH OUR HEADS.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO PASS THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY BILL. I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO UP

FROM 2/3 TO 4/6. >> IT'S GOING TO GO UP TO 4/6. THE SMOKING BILL DID PASS THAT WE CAN RESTRICT SMOKING IN PUBLIC PARKS AND BEACHES BUT EXCEPT CIGARS EXCEPT UNFILTERED CIGARS THEY CAN SMOKE. I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE

ALONE. >> I KNOW.

I GOT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DOWN THERE SO I WILL JUST

LEAVE THAT ALONE. >> COURTEOUS EXEMPTION.

>> IT'S FINE. BUT THE ONE BILL THAT WE'RE STILL WORRIED ABOUT AS BEFORE THE MEETING THAT'S SENATE BILL 620. THEY TRIED TO WATER IT DOWN OR TRIED TO CHANGE BUT IT'S STILL JUST A BAD BILL.

>> IT'S STILL OUT THERE ON THE CALL THEY SAID IT'S OUT THERE BUT IT'S NOT SCHEDULED FOR ANY COMMITTEE.

SO BUT AT THE LAST FEW DAYS OF THE LEGISLATURE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GET SLIPPED IN THERE.

>> MADAM MAYOR THAT'S WHAT'S WORRYING ME BECAUSE IT'S STILL OUT THERE. COMMISSION IF YOU REMEMBER THAT'S THE ONE THAT KIND OF TAKES SOME OF OUR POWERS AWAY AND BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL SAYS IF WE PASS SOMETHING WE HEARD A BUSINESS AND THE BUSINESS CAN SHOW WE HURT THEIR BUSINESS BY MORE THAN 15% WE CAN GET SUED AND HAVE TO PAY THEM LIKE 70 YEARS THEY TRIED TO BRING THAT DOWN LIKE FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S THE BOARD I'M ON. SO OTHER THAN THAT I WOULD TELL YOU TO GO LOOK AND JUST LOOK AT THE BILL AND JUST HOPE THAT SENATE BILL 620 STAYS WHERE IT IS.

>> IT'S IN LIMBO RIGHT NOW. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

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>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> MADAM MAYOR, ONE ISSUE AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO IT DEEP INTO IT TODAY BUT THERE'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE AND I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE IT'S CALLED SOUTH BRIDGE. TRAFFIC ON SOUTH BRIDGE IS RIDICULOUS. NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT. WE ALL TRAVEL IT ALL THE TIME. IT'S FOUR LANES OF COMPLETE CRAZY AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE EAST YOU WILL SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS RIGHT TURN ONLY. THAT RIGHT TURN ONLY NEVER HAPPENS AND THERE'S BEEN MANY TIMES WHERE FOLKS COMING OUT OF LIKE CAUSEWAY COVE OR FPUA AND THEY'RE PULLING OUT IN THAT TO TAKE THE RIGHT TURN AND THEY'RE ALMOST GETTING KILLED. THE CITY THEMSELVES LOST AN EMPLOYEE ON THAT BRIDGE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T JUST IGNORE.

I RESPONDED NICK AND I WERE WORKING ON IT A YEAR AGO.

WENT TO THE ENGINEER TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE, I THINK THE STATE'S IN CONTROL.

BUT STILL WE HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS TURN AND NOBODY TURNS. EVERYBODY TRIES TO GET INTO THAT POSITION. IN FACT, I TALKED TO AN EMPLOYEE FROM CAUSEWAY COVE THAT SAID HE WAS HELD BEHIND A CAR WHO STRADDLED BOTH LANES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BRIDGE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO PASS HIM BUT THAT PERSON INTENTION WAS TO TURN RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BRIDGE. I'M JUST THINKING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT THINGS GOING ON THE TOURISTS ARE HERE THAT DON'T HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF BEING PART OF FORT PIERCE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO AND WHERE NOT TO GO. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GOING TO ENFORCE THE RIGHT TURN ONLY LET'S TAKE THAT SIGN AWAY.

WE EXPECT SOME FORM OF DECENCY ON THIS BRIDGE IF YOU THINK BY THE THE NEXT WAY TO REACH THE MAINLAND IS 20 MILES AWAY I KNOW IT, IT'S 20 MILES AWAY.

WHEN YOU GOING EAST WHEN YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BRIDGE YOU'RE GOING TO A TWO LANE.

IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS OF WHAT WE DO.

I MEAN SOME OF THE BEST RACE CAR DRIVERS IN THE WORLD TRAVEL THAT BRIDGE ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT SOME FOLKS ARE MERGING IN WHERE I DON'T SEE THE SPACE BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE IT JUST AMAZING WE DON'T HAVE MORE ISSUES THAN WE ALREADY DO.

I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO IF WE HAVE TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE STATE.

IF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN UNSAFE ROAD IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INITIATIVE AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT TURN ONLY INTO

CAUSEWAY COVE. >> IT'S NOT ONLY THAT, THAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE PEOPLE USE THAT TO TRY TO

MERGE IN. >> THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ROAD RAGE AT SOME POINT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IN THE CENTER AND YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND EVERYBODY IS PASSING YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM YOU WILL HAVE TO LET ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN.

YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO. >>.

>> I WAS RUNNING OVER THE BRIDGE THE OTHER DAY AND I LOOKED OVER THERE IS AN ARROW CUT IN THE PAVEMENT IT ISN'T PAINTED BUT THE ARROW IS CUT IN THE PAVEMENT.

SO I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS GIVING YOU KNOW DIFFERENT SIGNALS AWAY. I KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO BECAUSE IT'S A FOUR LANE ROADWAY.

BUT STILL I THINK OUR MESSAGE AND OUR ROAD SIGNS NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE. MAKE SURE THAT THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY IS UPHELD AND RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT.

THERE'S TWO FORMS GOING. ONE IS THE FACT THAT THAT YOU HAVE THE SIGN IT'S HARD TO SEE BECAUSE IT'S BEHIND A LIGHT POLE BUT IT'S THERE. IF YOU'RE PULLING OUT OF FPUA OR COMING AROUND FROM THE PARKS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL OUT THERE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL OUT JUST TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT RIGHT TURN YOU ARE GOING TO GET KILLED. IT'S NOT ONLY THAT IT'S JUST THE WHOLE ACTION OF CARS MERGING ALL OVER THAT BRIDGE. THERE'S NO WAY FOR AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO GET THERE, FOLKS.

THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST A BIG EMERGENCY WAITEDDING TO

HAPPEN. >> AND IT'S WORST GOING

EAST. >> WORST GOING EAST THAN

COMING THE OTHER WAY. >> LITERALLY YOU COME FROM

TWO LANES GOING EAST TO ONE. >> TECHNICALLY BECAUSE THAT RIGHT LANE IS RIGHT LANE ONLY -- RIGHT TURN ONLY.

TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENT THAT'S A STATE ROAD.

>> THERE AGAIN IS THAT YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A DELINEATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD THAT SHOWED THE ARROW THERE ONLY. NOW I'M THINKING IF THAT WAS THERE ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE WILL START MERGING UP AT THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE I'M THINKING OH, MY GOD.

I REALLY DO IF I DON'T KNOW WHERE MR. ANDREWS GOT WITH

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>> ANY OTHER IDEAS, MR. MIMS DO HAVE YOU ANYTHING TO SAY

ABOUT THIS OR MR. ANDREWS? >> NO, MADAM MAYOR.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND WE HAVE NEVER, IN MY VIEW AS A CITY TAKEN A STAND AND SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.

WE'VE SAID HEY CAN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FOR POSSIBLE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU BUT WE HAVE NEVER AS A CITY JUST DRAWN A LINE IN THE SAND AND SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. I BELIEVE THAT THE FDOT/T.P.O. WILL WORK WITH US IF WE TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR Y'ALL TO GIVE US DIRECTION.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF DISCUSS THIS AS A COMMISSION WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE A DECISION THIS WILL BE FINE. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD NEED YOUR DIRECTION TO STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FDOT AND TPO SO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. WE CAN ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN UTILIZING EITHER INTERNAL STAFF OR OUR CONSULTANT PARTNERS BUT THAT IS --

>> TWICE WE HAVE CONSIDERED THE T.P.O. PRESENTATION OF THE RESTRIPING AND THE REDOING.

WE HAVE TWICE AND TWICE IT HASN'T GONE ANY PLACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS JUST SAID NO WE DON'T WANT BUT WE HAVEN'T SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT IS

THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? >> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BUT WE HAVE NOT MADE A DECISION AS A CITY.

WE'RE READY TO ROLE IN ANY -- ROLL IN ANY CAPACITY I KNOW ONE THING MANY PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES BEING THAT IT IS A QUOTE/UNQUOTE EVACUATION ROUTE. BUT I MEAN IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SAFETY PROVISIONS THE REDUCTION OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAVEL LANES MAY BE AN OPTION.

THEN INCREASING YOUR PEDESTRIAN AND MULTIMODAL ACCESS AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, WE GOT ABOUT A THREE AND A HALF FOOT SIDEWALK.

IT'S NOT TOO WONDERFULLY SAFE OVER THERE.

IT'S FUNCTIONAL BUT, YOU KNOW, IN TODAY'SY' STANDARDS IT'S A LITTLE BEHIND. SO THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AS A CITY.

>> I KNOW YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU'RE RIGHT SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP COMMISSIONER. WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISIONFUL WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATION BUT WE'VE NEVER EVEN REALLY MADE THE DECISION TO NOT ACCEPT THE PRESENTATION OR TO ACCEPT IT.

>> NO, WE JUST IGNORED IT. >>

[LAUGHTER] >> OUR INACTION HAS SAID THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT.

MR. MIMS IS RIGHT BECAUSE WHEN YOU TAKE THE PEDESTRIAN ROUTE ACROSS THE BRIDGE YOU HAVE A 37 INCH OR A 38 INCH CONCRETE BARRIER AND YOU HAVE TRUCKS AND CARS COMING BY YOU AT 55 MILES PER HOUR WITH LARGE MIRRORS AND YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION EVERY SECOND OF EVERY MOMENT.

OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU ENCOUNTER SOMEONE ON THAT SIDEWALK NOW ONE OF YOU HAVE TO DECIDE ARE YOU GOING TO GO ON THE OUTSIDE RAIL AND LEAN OVER THE RAIL TO LET ME BY OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT.

>> THEN THERE ARE CYCLISTS, TOO.

>> THEN IT GETS WORSE. THEN YOU ARE LEANING ACROSS THE RAIL AND IT GETS EVEN WORSE.

>> RIGHT. RIGHT.

>> SO, YEAH, WE NEED TO DECIDE YOU KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF FUNCTIONS WITHIN THAT ENTIRE AREA YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE -- I THINK THAT'S THE WAY I DO IT.

THAT'S THE SAFEST WAY TO DO IT.

>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING ACROSS THAT REGION.

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HE AND I CAN BRING IT UP T.P.O. HATES TALKING BY THE BUT WE KNOW IT'S A REAL THING.

TOURISTS ARE IN RESIDENCE ARE ENCOUNTERING CONDITIONS THEY DON'T WANT TO ENCOUNTER.

BUT, THE ECONOMY IS PROSPERING FORT PIERCE IS PROSPERING THERE ARE A LOT OF BONUSES BY FOLKS CROSSING THAT BRIDGE AND COMING TO OUR BEACHES AND ETC., ETC.

SO YEAH, IT'S A REAL ISSUE. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A REAL PART OF IT BEING TWO LANES UP THE HARBOR ISLE.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION YEARS AGO THAT MAYBE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED THAT WAY. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW TWO FULL EASTBOUND LANES AND THEN LET THOSE 900 OR 1,000 UNITS OF FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE EXIT TO THE RIGHT IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S APART OF THE CONVERSATION. THERE'S A APART OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE CONGESTION BACKING UP TO U.S. 1 OR ANDY RIVER DRIVE. THINGS THAT NEED TO BE STUDIED SO YOU'RE RIGHT COMMISSIONER.

I'M READY. >> LET'S DO IT.

>> SO WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN NEXT?

MR. MIMS DO WE -- WE HAVE -- >> TIPICLY WHEN THERE'S A LETTER FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES THEN YOU ALL WOULD APPROVE THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT OR LETTER OF CONCERN. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT AN OFFICIAL IT WILL BE AN AN ITEM ON THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING YOU WOULD ALL APPROVE IT AND SIGN IT AND GET IT MOVING. WE CAN INITIATE THE DISCUSSIONS AS STAFF BUT AGAIN WE NEED THE CITY TO COME TOGETHER COHESIVELY AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO LAUNCH THIS EVALUATION AGAIN AND THE T.P.O. WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN COMING HERE AND GIVING US DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF DESIGN.

I THINK THEY CAN JUST DUST THAT OFF AND GET MOVING.

I THINK THEY HAD SOME VIABLE VARIATIONS AND OPTIONS.

BUT IT'S UP TO US ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION.

>> WEREN'T WE ALSO LOOKING AT SEAWAY AND A-1 A AND LEVELS OF SERVICE AND RETHINKING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OR THE STANDARD OR SOMETHING?

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEFINITELY CHANGE THAT BECAUSE IF WE JUST UTILIZE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE MODEL AS IS DEFINED WITH OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES WE WILL DEFINITELY FAIL EVERY TIME. BUT IF WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT MEANS AND METHODS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STANDARDS I BELIEVE WHAT WE CAN MAKE THIS A FUNCTIONAL ROADWAY THAT CAN FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. THAT PATH IS A LITTLE BIT MOUNTAINOUS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO GET PUBLIC, APPROVAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT I THINK I DON'T WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET SOME REMEDY TO THIS IN THE NEXT LIKE 60 DAYS.

AT LEAST COME UP WITH SOME IDEA OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. THE TOURISTS ARE ALREADY DOWN AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING AWAY.

THE EAST END OF THE BRIDGE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT GOING IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO FISHERMAN'S WHARF KINGS'S LANDING ALL ROADS GO THROUGH SOUTH BRIDGE.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY VERY TIMELY THAT WE GET SOMETHING DONE AND DO IT RIGHT AWAY. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A TWO PRONGED APPROACH TO THIS.

ONE IS INTERNAL WITH STAFF AND OUR COMMENTS IN THE SECOND ONE IS THROUGH THE T.P.O.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE AT LEAST ONE SUGGESTION IS BETTER SIGNAGE ON THE RIGHT TURN ONLY OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING SHORT OF THE HUGE T.P.O. RESTRIPING, ETC.

RIGHT. >> I JUST WOULD LIKE ENGINEERING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

WHATEVER IS THERE IF IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE LET'S TAKE IT DOWN. IF IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE LET'S MAKE IT OBVIOUS. LET'S PAINT THE ROADWAY, LET'S YOU KNOW EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON HOW REALLY WE NEED TO DO THAT. I REALLY THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS. ONE IS TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND TRY TO GET SOME REMEDY TO THAT.

SECOND THING IS LET'S TAKE THE LONG TERM APPROACH AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM WE'RE LOOKING AT 2022 BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU BY 2025, THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK,

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SO I AGREE WITH THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> SO I AGREE AND I REACHED OUT TO MR. BUCKWALT THIS WEEK TO TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I DO THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION SHORT OF STRIPING AND I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WARNINGS COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE THAT LANES WILL BE REDUCED TO BASICALLY ONE GOING EASTBOUND BECAUSE THAT'S A HARD RIGHT TURN.

IN YOU HAVE TO REINFORCE THAT WITH SOME TYPE OF AUDIBLE MECHANISM-TYPE DEVICE SO PEOPLE CAN'T SWITCH LANES. PRETTY MUCH LIKE THE LANES AS YOU GO SOUTH FLORIDA THEY HAVE THOSE SO-CALLED BARRIERS THEY DO GET RUN INTO.

BUT THEY DO DETER PEOPLE AT SOME POINT FROM CROSSING OVER INTO THAT AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT CYCLE.

I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT YOU KNOW, KNOWING HOW THAT HAPPENS IS THE WARNING THAT HAS TO COME INTO PLAY IT HAS TO COME IN ACROSS THAT FIRST SIGN OF THAT BRIDGE THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BEGIN TO EDUCATE AND GET PEOPLE USED TO. SO I'M WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. I WILL PROBABLY BE REACHING OUT TO MR. BUCKWALT BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER CALL TO HIM ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, I NOTICED.

SO THANK YOU. >> QUICK MADAM MAYOR, I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING AND ONE THING THAT I'M SITTING OVER HERE THINKING I'M NOT LOOKING INTO SPACE I'M SITTING HERE THINKING THAT FIRST COMMISSIONER WE NEED TO GO GET OUR MOUNTAIN BOOTS AND START CLIMBING BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A RELOCATION A RELOCATION OF WASTE WATER PLANT.

WHEN THAT STARTS THAT'S JUST ADDED TRUCKS AND WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING TO BE ON THAT BRIDGE AND LORD FORBID IF IT STARTS DURING SEASON BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE ONCE IT STARTS YOU CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO STOP BECAUSE THE SEASON IS HERE. SO WE NEED TO LIKE JUMP ON THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW AND PRAY THAT THAT'S COMING.

SO WE NEED TO LIKE JUMP ON THIS ASAP.

>> BEYOND THAT WHAT GOES THERE?

>> WHAT GOES THERE SO AFTER WE MOVE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH THE TRUCKS THEN SOMETHING GOES THERE THAT'S MORE TRAFFIC SO WE KNOW IT'S COMING.

LET'S NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN LET'S HAVE THIS HARD DISCUSSION AND WRITE THIS LETTER AND DO WHAT WE HAVE

TO DO SO WE CAN GET IT DONE. >> UH-HUH.

SUCCESS BRINGS PROBLEMS DOESN'T IT? SO ARE WE DONE. SO I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF BILLS BUT YOU COVERED THEM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE ONE THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS I THINK THE NO SMOKING OR RESTRICTED SMOKING IN PUBLIC PARKS EITHER PASSED TODAY OR IS GOING TO PASS. DID IT PASS TODAY?

>> IT DID. >> OKAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF RESTRICTING SMOKING IN JETTY PARK.

THAT IS, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ENFORCEMENT AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS ALSO KIND OF A DIFFICULT THING BUT WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE PEOPLE GET BEVERAGES TO GO AND THEY GO INTO THE PARK AND THEY SMOKE IN THE PARK AND THEN THEY LEAVE THE CIGARETTE BUTTS ON THE GROUND THEN THE TOBACCO GOES IN THE WATERWAYS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE WE AS CHIGS COMMISSION WANT TO CONSIDER THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF BUT I CAN TELL YOU EVERY WEEK, MAYOR, AND SO AND I KNOW THAT SMOKERS HAVE SO FEW PLACES LEFT TO GO.

SO I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THAT BUT IF WE COULD RESTRICT IT

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UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING OUT OF THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND TURNING OUT THE LIGHTS. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.