Mar 08, 2022 FPRA Regular Meeting Agenda

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> READY MAYOR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. PLEASE STAND AND FOR THE

PLEDGE OF ALEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>>> FIRST ITEMMED WHY APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 14TH 2021, AND FEBRUARY 8TH, 2022 REGULAR

MEETINGS. >> I VOTE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> NOW IS THE TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE FPRA TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> IS THERE ANY FPRA MEMBER WHO WANTS TO PULL ANY ITEM.

IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. CRA Advisory Committee Update by Chairwoman Sabrina Taylor and Hoyt Murphy, Jr.]

AND HOYT MURPHY JR. >> MR. MIMS DO YOU HAVE ANY

LEAD IN FOR THIS. >> NO, I DO NOT.

>> WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. >> ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE

BEFORE. >> MISS TAYLOR AND MR. MURPHY YOU ARE BOTH WELCOME HERE.

>> THANK YOU ALWAYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME US CERTAINLY AS WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL AN UPDATE AS TO YOU KNOW HOW WE CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DESIGNATED AREA AS IT RELATES TO THE REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY DESIGNATION FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

SO I HAVE THE ESTEEMED PLEASURE OF STANDING HERE WITH MR. HOYT PAT MURPHY JR. HE WILL TALK YOU TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AN IDEA THAT A RECOMMENDATION FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER AS IT RELATES TO KIND OF BEAUTIFICATION OF ORANGE AVENUE. THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY AS IT RELATES TO THAT. CERTAINLY HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND A BIT MORE.

BUT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND SO CERTAINLY AFTER OUR UPDATE THEN THE STAFF IS GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SHARE ABOUT THE FOUR FACADE GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS MET AND APPROVED AS WELL. IT REALLY SPEAKS TO AGAIN OUR COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADEQUATELY AND APPROPRIATELY CONTRIBUTING TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA OF FORT PIERCE. YOU KNOW, I NEGLECTED WHEN I CAME BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER, JANUARY, TO PUBLICLY THANK THE STAFF FOR THE ONGOING SUPPORT AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HELP ME LOOK GOOD WHEN I'M STANDING UP HERE.

BUT DEFINITELY WE COULD NOT DO IN WITHOUT THEIR DILIGENCE AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AS WELL. SO GOING FORWARD THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND PRESENT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALWAYS IN COMPLIANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PRIORITY AREAS FOCUS ON ORANGE AVENUE, 13TH STREET, 25TH STREET AS WELL. AND SO THAT SAID, MR. MURPHY IS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ORANGE AVENUE

COMPONENT OF OUR FIRM AREAS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. MURPHY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BY THE WAY, SABRINA HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SO I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU YOU'VE DONE ALSO. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR. WE ALL KNOW THAT'S A CRITICAL GATEWAY CORRIDOR COMING IN TO FORT PIERCE FROM ORANGE AVENUE ON ORANGE AVENUE FROM I-95 TO THE RIVER IT'S ABSOLUTELY OVER FOUR MILES ALONG THAT ROADWAY. IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE DONE AN AUGUST SELL ARREST JOB OF RENOVATING PROTHS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN.

BUT ALL THE WAY OUT THE HISTORIC POST OFFICE I MEAN THE GUY IS A HERO IN MY BOOK.

HE HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB. JUST TO NAME A FEW.

FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

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WE HAVE ALL HEARD STORIES. AND I TEND TO THINK THEY'RE TRUE. MERCHANTS DOWNTOWN WHERE FOLKS COME INTO DOWNTOWN FOR THE FIRST TIME TO FORT PIERCE THEY HAVE ACTUALLY TURNED AROUND SAY WHAT IN THE HECK AM I DRIVING INTO. INTERESTING STATISTIC.

THEY'RE FROM I-95 TO THE RIVER THERE'S 214 PROPERTIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR THERE. AGAIN SOME IN THE COUNTY SOME IN THE CITY. OF THOSE THIS IS THE PART THAT IS REALLY SURPRISING, 64% ARE LOCALLY OWNED.

NOW I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT WHEN I WAS RUNNING THAT THAT IT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE. THAT MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE LIVING OUT OF THE AREA NOT LOOKING AT THEIR PROPERTY BUT 64% LIVE EITHER IN FORT PIERCE, OR FORT ST. LUCIE THAT OWN THOSE PROPERTIES ON ORANGE AVENUE. I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THEY NEVER DRIVE BY THEIR PROPERTY, MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T CARE. UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BUNCH OF LITTLE OLD LADIES THAT OWN THESE THAT ARE ON SOCIAL SECURITY THESE ARE INVESTORS. ALL I CAN SAY IS SHAME ON THEM FOR LETTING THEM LOOK THE WAY THEY DO.

WE WILL PUT THAT ON PUBLIC -- THE POOR PARENTS OF THESE PARTS OF ORANGE AVENUE, THESE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.

BECAUSE THE CITY I THINK HAS STEPPED UP AND DONE A GOOD JOB TRYING TO GET THINGS GOING ON THAT CORRIDOR.

BUT THE POOR PARENTS OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT AFFECTS EVERY BUSINESS IN THIS CITY.

IT UNFORTUNATELY HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS BUILD AER WHO IS BUILDING JUST LOCAL BUILDER WHO IS BUILDING MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ON SOUTH BEACH HE SAID I DARE NOT DIRECT SOMEBODY WHO'S COMING TO SOUTH BEACH FOR THE FIRST TIME TO COME THROUGH ORANGE AVENUE. HE'S NOT NOT SELLING ANY HOUSES IF THEY DO. SO AS A RESULT OF THIS, THERE'S A LOCAL GROUP OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL GROUP THAT'S ALREADY GETTING TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER WORMING AN ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION. IN FACT OUR FIRST ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING WILL BE LATER THIS WEEK.

IT'S COMPRISED NOT ONLY OF OWNERS ON ORANGE AVENUE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF YOU LIVE I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU LIVE IF YOU LIVE IN FORT PIERCE YOU'RE AFFECTED BY IT.

AND OUR GOAL IS GOING TO BE TO ENCOURAGE AND HELP THE CITY TO CLEAN IT UP AND IMPROVE THE CORRIDOR OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME ACTION PLANS, SOME IDEAS THAT WILL BE PRESENTING LATER. THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS YOU KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TO COME, STEPS YOU HAVE TO COME BUT OUR FIRST STEP IS TO ASK THIS CRA BOARD AND TO TOP BRASS SO BEYOND THE CRA BOARD WE NEED MR. MIMS, WE NEED THE TOP BRASS OF THE CITY OF CITY TO PUBLICLY MAKE A STATEMENT THAT IMPROVING ORANGE AVENUE IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

AND THEN, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

WE WILL BE INVITING STAFF TO MEETINGS AND SO FORTH.

AGAIN, THIS ISN'T I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM BUT IT JUST BOGGLES MIND AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS I'LL JUST LEAVE WITH YOU THIS THOUGHT. IT BOGGLES MY MIND THAT SOMEBODY WOULDN'T PUT MONEY INTO FIXING THEIR PROPERTY UP BECAUSE I CAN PROVE FOR EVERY DOLLAR THEY PUT IT IN ADDS $10 OF VALUE ON THEIR PROPERTY, AND THAT'S MINIMUM ON SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES WE WILL GIVE OUGHT SHOT.

I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN ATTEMPTS BEFORE EVERYBODY I HAVE CALLED SAYS COUNT ME IN IT NEEDS YOUR COMMITMENT TO

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>> LAST WORD. SO YOU MAY BE THINKING WOW, WHAT ARE YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT SPEAKS TO THE FACT TO BORROW COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S TERM WE ARE ONE FORT PIERCE.

SO WE KNOW THAT AS AN ADISORY BOARD WE FOCUS A LOT ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS OF THE FPRA BUT ALSO THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS JUST AS IMPORTANT. SO TO HIS POINT, WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF I-95 THEY WANT TO COME IN TO WE HAVE FORT PIERCE IS A SUNRISE CITY.

SO AS THEY ORANGE AVENUE IS THE ONLY DIRECT LINE RIGHT TO DOWNTOWN SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS WE TAKE ON THIS VENTURE. CERTAINLY YOUR SUPPORT, YOUR ADVICE, AND SUBSEQUENTLY YOUR APPROVAL.

YOU KNOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN BEAUTIFYING THAT PARTICULAR PART OF FPRA HOPEFULLY TO INCREASE THE TAX BASE AND THAT WE HAVE MORE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN FORT PIERCE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME WE LOOK FORWARD TO

BEING WITH YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> PAT I KNOW YOU ARE DEALING REAL ESTATE THIS ISN'T MORE THAN JUST A RESIDENTIAL OPINION YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL AND I KNOW EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN THERE YOU ARE THINKING THIS COULD BE VERY MARKETABLE TALKING ABOUT.

>> SO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN HERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT GATEWAY. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THIS YEAR AS ONE OF THE MAIN GATEWAYS INTO THE CITY AND THAT THIS IS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK, JUST FEEDS RIGHT INTO EVERYTHING THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS IDENTIFIED AS A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. MADAM SHARE.

>> I WOULD AGREE WE START WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAD IDENTIFIED THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL AS MANY OTHER CORRIDORS. AS YOU TRAVERSE THE CITY FROM WEST TO EAST COMING IN FROM 95.

BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERALLY COMMUNITIES THAT EVOLVE STARTING FROM OUT THERE ALL THE WAY IN THERE.

THERE LALATINO COMMUNITIES OUR CREOLE COMMUNITIES AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY.

I WELCOME TO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS. THE NUMBERS YOU PRESENTED.

I THINK ALSO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CHARACTERIZE THIS IN A WAY THAT IS WELCOMING.

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CAUTIOUS IN SOME OF THE TERMS WE USE. I CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN A WASHINGTON TRADITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE NOW HAVING WITH THAT COMMUNITY. I DO OPEN DOORS OVER THERE.

I WILL DO MORE OPEN DOORS. I WILL DO TOWN HALLS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ENGAGING IN ALL SECTORS OF THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S EVEN A CHALLENGE FOR ME AND I REPRESENT A LARGE PART OF THAT ELECTED ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME LANGUAGE CHALLENGES AND SOME CULTURAL THINGS THAT WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE TO GET RIGHT.

SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE WELCOMING THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I, TOO, WILL CHERISH AND WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COMMUNICATING AND ENGAGING THAT COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE, THAT THEY'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING ONE FORT PIERCE CONCEPT. THAT'S THE PART I WANT TO END ON. EVERYBODY WANTS FORT PIERCE TO WIN. AND IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE SURE WE USE THE RIGHT TERMS AND THE RIGHT LANGUAGE TO

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BECAUSE THEY DO CONTRIBUTE GREATLY TO THE ECONOMY THERE AND WE WANT THEM TO EVEN DO MORE.

SOMETIMES, MAYBE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS A DIRECTION MAP BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IT'S OUR FAULT THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT'S SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO GET RIGHT AS A COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND HOW IT HELPS US ALL. AS A RESIDENT PROPERTY OWNER, PERSON WHO LIVES OVER THERE WE'LL GET THIS RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS AND BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. HAVE YOU MY SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH MISS TAYLOR AND MR. MURPHY. APPRECIATE YOUR IDEAS AND YOUR FOCUS. SOMETIMES WE NEED THAT.

WE JUST NEED TO DIAL IN A LITTLE BIT AND SAY THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS. WE TALK ABOUT IT FROM THE DESK UP HERE, MANY, MANY TIMES OVER AGAIN.

WE TALK ABOUT IT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU BOTH IF YOU COULD JUST WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO, NUMBER ONE AND TWO BULLET POINT OF WHICH ITEMS TO FOCUS ON FIRST.

WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON IS IT GOING BE THE STREET SCAPE IT IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT REALM.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT HERE IN A LITTLE WHILE FACADE-TYPE APPLICATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO?

>> AGAIN, I THINK THE CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION IS GOING COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

BUT TO ME THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUE NOT SO MUCH, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR Y'ALL TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OTHER THAN MAYBE I WILL GIVE YOU ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT CAME UP EVEN A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR A NICE LETTER SAYING HEY, GREAT JOB TO A LOT OF YOU FOLKS AND HOPE SOME OF THE REST OF YOU GET ON BOARD. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU --

>> I CAN DO THAT I CAN DO THAT THIS WEEK.

>> REIMPLEMENT IT. TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER, AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, I THINK ALL THE COMMUNITIES HAVE TO COME TOGETHER ON IT. BUT SOME OF THESE THE WORST OFFENDERS ARE NOT SOME VERY FINANCIALLY CAPABLE FOLKS WHO JUST TURNED A BLIND EYE ON THESE PROPERTIES WE THINK THERE'S A TIME FOR THAT STOP ABSOLUTELY.

AND I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY SOME OF THEM.

I WILL TELL THEM WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE COME TO JESUS

MOMENT. >> THERE ARE NICE LETTERS THEN THERE ARE STERN LETTERS.

I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOLLING.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.

WE HAVE STERN OPPORTUNITIES, TOO.

>> MS. TAYLOR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, TOO, SAME THOUGHT OR ONE THING WE SHOULD FOCUS ON IN ADDITION TO THAT?

>> I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH WHAT PAT HAS LAID OUT.

WE HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION ON WHAT'S THE PATHWAY FORWARD. IS IT FROM THE POSITION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OR DO WE FOCUS ON BEAUTIFICATION.

IT HAS TO BE A DUAL APPROACH.

YOU KNOW, LETTING BUSINESS OWNER KNOW THAT WE ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY WE ARE VERY PROUD OF OUR CITY.

WE LOOK TO WORK WITH THEM. IT'S NOT MORE OF A PARENTAL POSITION BUT MORE OF A TEAM WORK COLLABORATIVE POSITION.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A DUAL APPROACH FOCUSING ON BEAUTIFICATION AS WELL AND THOSE THINGS AND CODE

ENFORCEMENT. >> YEAH, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU USING THAT WORD BECAUSE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THIS YEAR AS A CITY COMMISSION THE HUMAN ELEMENT WE ALWAYS PRIORITIZE FIVE COMMON THEMES AND BEAUTIFICATION WAS ALWAYS RANKED AT THE TOP IN THE TOP FIVE. BUT I AS A HUMAN BEING YOU KNOW ALWAYS RANKED NUMBER ONE AS LIKE I'M GOING TO GET IT TO, RIGHT. THEN I'M GOING TO SLOWLY TAPER OFF. FIVE WAS ALWAYS BEAUTIFICATION. BEAUTIFICATION BECAME NUMBER TWO. RIGHT HERE SITTING AND HAVING DIALOGUE AMONGST THE FIVE OF US I THOUGHT THAT TO BE VERY UNIQUE. I THOUGHT THAT TO BE STRATEGIC AND I THOUGHT THAT TO BE VERY FOCUSED.

SO WE'RE RIGHT ON THERE WITH YOU.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT. I GREW UP IN THAT COMMUNITY.

I GREW UP IN THAT COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON THAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN ALL THE STUFF WE'RE VOTING ON TO GET PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN OR KEEP STRAIGHT AND GO SOUTH GO TO THE WAY TO THE SERVE

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OPPORTUNITY. >> I'M ASSUMING MR. MURPHY SINCE YOU KNOW THERE ARE 214 PROPERTIES THAT YOU USE THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE AND GONE RIGHT DOWN ORANGE AVENUE AND IDENTIFIED THEM AND I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD SHARE THAT LIST WITH ME.

I CAN DO THAT MYSELF, TOO. I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE PROPERTY'S APPRAISER'S LIST. I WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S COUNTY AND WHAT'S CITY AND NOT THAT IT'S NECESSARILY GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT, THAT'S ONLY DIFFERENT FOR US FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT.

BUT IT ISN'T REALLY DIFFERENT FOR WE WANT AND I KNOW THAT THERE. I'M GLAD THAT YOU IDENTIFIED THE PROPERTIES THAT DO LOOK GOOD, LIKE THE STAM MANUFACTURING AND JOEY MILLER'S THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT DO LOOK GOOD. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY EXCEPT THAT THE CITY WANTS THEM TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO COME TO FORT PIERCE AND FEEL PROUD OF FORT PIERCE.

I MIGHT ADD THAT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY THAT IS, THAT PORTION FROM HARTMANN WEST IS COMMISSIONER'S AREA HE IS 100% ON BOARD.

HE WAS READY TO GET THINGS CO-ORDINATE ZMAD TOGETHER.

AND THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME PROBLEM ISSUES GOING OUT THERE RIGHT UPFORD'S I-95 BELIEVE ME IT'S NOT JUST ANY IT'S ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.

>> RIGHT. RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. SO I'M VERY PLEASED ABOUT THIS AND I THINK HAVING AN ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION IS A REAL GOOD IDEA.

AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT WHAT THE CITY NEEDS ALWAYS IS THE COMMUNITY'S HELP. YOU KNOW.

THE CITY CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.

SO, AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SO COMMUNITY MINDED ALL OF THESE YEARS.

SO I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE THE C.R.A.

DOING. >>> NEXT IDEA IS APPROVAL OF

[b. Approval of the proposal submitted by S&ME Consultants to complete the Downtown Master Plan in the amount of $158,500. ]

$158,500. >> MIDDLE MIMS.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE FPRA BOARD WE DO HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER HERE THAT WILL INTRODUCE THIS ITEM AND WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM, IS&ME THAT WILL BE GUIDING US THROUGH THE PROPOSAL AND HOW IT WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL

FPRA. >> YES.

>> HELLO, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE FPRA IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU GEORGE KRAMMER AND KERRY REED. THEY ARE REPRESENTING, IS&M THEY DID OUR CRA PLAN UPDATE.

JOHN JONES FROM, IS&ME SERVED AS YOUR TECHNICAL CONSULTANT FOR THE KING'S LANDING PROPOSAL REVIEW.

SO THEY'RE NO STRANGERS TO FORT PIERCE.

THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THEIR SCOPE OF WORK AND SOME OF THEIR BACKGROUND WITH REGARD TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. WE JUST SPOKE AT COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON JUST BROUGHT UP THE STRATEGIC PLAN THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH PRIORITY IN THE 2022 STRATEGIC PLAN SO WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND REALLY HOW ARE WE GOING TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PLANNING REPORTS ALL THESE STUDIES WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR 10, 15 YEARS.

THE PARKING STUDY, THE RETAIL STUDY HOW CAN WE BRING THAT ALTOGETHER FOR A NEW REFRESHED VISION FOR FORT PIERCE AS WE EXPECT SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN TO COME ON THE LINE.

SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO GEORGE AND KERRY AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS. >> THANK YOU, WELCOME.

>> THANKS. YOU WANT TO SIT?

>> YOU CAN STAND YOU CAN USE THAT LITTLE CLICKER THERE.

>> I'M FINE TO STAND IF THAT'S OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>>> SO MY NAME IS GEORGE KRAMER.

I'M A PLANNER BY TRADE. I OVERSEE OUR PLACE MAKING PRACTICE AT, IS&ME WHICH INCLUDES PLANNING TRANSPORTATION, AND CIVIL ENGINEERING AND WITH ME TODAY IS KERRY REED WHO HEADS UP OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN PRACTICE.

JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK MAYOR AND

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BUT THEN ALSO STAFF. YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY WORKING WITH MR. MIMS. THAT'S REALLY LIKE HOW WE LIKE TO DO BUSINESS.

HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP WITH THE CRA PLAN AT THE H.D. KING'S SITE BEING ABLE TO ADVANCE THAT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WE APPRECIATE THAT PARTNERSHIP VERY MUCH. JUST WANT TO TALK REAL QUICK ABOUT OUR COMPANY YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU WORK WITH A LOT OF CONSULTANTS HERE AND MULTIDISCIPLINARY HAVING MULTIPLE SERVICES IS PRETTY COMMON TREND IN THE INDUSTRY. WHAT WE STRIVE TO DO THROUGH OUR PRACTICE IS TO TRULY BE AN INNER DISCIPLINARY FIRM.

SO IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT SERVICES SO COLLABORATION THROUGH THE FRONT, MIDDLE AND END PROJECT ALLOWS US TO INNOVATE AND PROVIDE VALUE TO OUR CLIENTS. THAT SHOWS OUR 34 OFFICES AROUND THE COUNTRY. AGAIN, KERRY AND I ARE HERE TONIGHT OTHERS ERIC ROUSH, JOHN JOANS WHO YOU HAVE MET BEFORE AND GRACE ZANGWALL. I ALLUDED TO EARLIERER AGAIN OUR EFFORTS ON THE CRA PLAN UPDATE AS WELL AS THE HD KING SITE PROPOSAL EVALUATIONS DO GIVE US SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY WE TALK A LOT ABOUT POTENTIAL AND YOU KNOW ENGAGING THAT COMMUNITY.

IF I CAN TAKE A MOMENT I GREW UP IN ORLANDO I WAS COMING DO TOWN FORT PIERCE FOR VACATION ALL THROUGH MY CHILDHOOD SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY AND THE CHARACTER OF THIS CITY.

SO YOU KNOW AS WE LOOK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRENDS AND POSITIVE ONES THAT WE HAVE.

WHAT WE LOOK TO DO IS BOLSTER THAT HISTORY AND THE CHARACTER THROUGH THAT AND HAVE THAT BALANCED APPROACH THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO, IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER. SO I WILL HAND IT OVER TO KERRY AND TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

KERRY. >> SO I WANT TO WALK YOU ALL THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THIS. THIS IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. I THINK SHE'S ATTACHING OUR SCOPE IF YOU WANT TO DELVE INTO THE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I THINK THE MAIN POINT IS REALLY A COMMUNITY-DRIVEN PLAN AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH KIND OF SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF HOW WE ACCOMPLISH.

THAT REALLY HAVING DESIGN WORKSHOPS, THE PUBLIC SURVEY ENGAGEMENT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND HOW WE WANT TO TAKE ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES AND REALLY WEAVE THOSE TOGETHER FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.

AND HOPEFULLY THIS PLAYS. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO PRESS PLAY. THIS IS A PLAN THAT WE JUST WRAPPED UP AND JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHAT SOME OF OUR PRODUCTS LOOK LIKE, WHAT SOME OF THE DELIVERABLES LOOK LIKE AND KIND OF HOW WE COME UP WITH A VISION.

. >> THIS VIDEO IS REALLY A SUMMARY.

SO WHAT THIS IS REALLY A VIDEO SUMMARY OF THE PLAN THAT WE PRODUCED ONE DIFFERENCE I WILL TELL YOU PINELLAS PARK A GREAT COMMUNITY THEY NEVER HAD A HISTORIC DOWNTOWN SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE PROCESS HERE WAS ACTUALLY CREATING A NEW CITY CENTER AS OPPOSED TO HELPING REVITALIZE THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AREA.

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WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LOT OF OUR MASTER PLANNING FROCTS REALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY ENVISION KIND OF BRING TO LIFE WHAT THE MASTER PLAN KIND OF WHAT THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE MASTER PLAN ARE.

AND SO WE HAVE INCLUDED, OBVIOUSLY, OF THIS PARTICULAR ONE WITH THE PARK AND A CITY CENTER.

BUT WE HAVE INCLUDED SOME VISUALIZATION OF DIFFERENT REDEVELOPMENT SITES.

>> AGAIN THIS, YOU KNOW THE RESTAURANT ROW, SOME OF THESE SITES REALLY SHOWING, OKAY, HOW COULD THESE AREAS BE REDEVELOPED OVER TIME. SO, I THINK AGAIN, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AREAS WHAT COULD THIS LOOK LIKE, WHAT COULD THE CHARACTER AND FEEL OF THESE AREAS BE.

AND I THINK STREET SCAPE YOU KNOW THAT WAS ANOTHER HUGE COMPONENT I THINK OF BOTH THE ORIGINAL CRA PLAN AND AS WELL AS THE MASTER PLAN IS HOW ARE WE IMPROVING THE STREET SCAPE AND CONNECTIVITY TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO AGAIN JUST QUICK VIDEO.

SO AGAIN JUST A FEW MORE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE GRAPHICS THAT WILL BE OUTCOMES OF THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. WE DO A LOT OF THE 3-D CROSS SECTIONS WHICH YOU WILL SEE AGAIN HOW CAN THE STREETS INCLUDE SIDEWALKS, BIKE FACILITIES, PARKING, HOW DOES THIS ALL WORK TOGETHER. AND AGAIN, PUT INPUT OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE HAVE INCLUDED SEVERAL PROCESSES SO WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE PROJECT WHERE THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC CAN GIVE INPUT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT. WE'LL HAVE A SURVEY WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT LISTENING SESSIONS, MEETINGS, OPEN HOUSES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A SIX MONTH SCHEDULE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING A KICKOFF IN APRIL AND TRYING TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED.

I THINK THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO FINISH BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND SO, THIS KIND OF OUTLINES WHAT WE THINK THAT TIMELINE WILL BE.

WE'LL DEVELOP A MORE IN-DEPTH SCHEDULE AS WE GET STARTED BUT ORIGINALLY HAVING A KICKOFF GETTING OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STARTED, HAVING THE FRAMEWORKS DEVELOPED ALL OF WHAT WILL BE LEADING UP TO THE DESIGN SPREAD. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A WEEK LONG DESIGN WHERE WE WILL RECOMMEND GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE PLANS, THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND HAVE PUBLIC INPUT. WE'LL HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AS WELL AS TOWARDS THE END AND REALLY GET GREAT DIRECTION SO THAT WE'LL THEN BE ABLE TO FINALIZE THE MASTER PLAN TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR SCHEDULE. NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO GEORGE WITH SOME FINAL THOUGHTS.

>> THANKS, CAREY. I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH WHERE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF PLANS DONE.

YOU KNOW THEY'RE EXISTING DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANS.

SO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT A COUPLE ONE YOU WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH THE FINAL DELIBERATE PLAN THAT WE PRODUCE WHERE WE FIND SUCCESS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY OUR TRUE METRIC FOR SUCCESS IS

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THE RESULTS THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THAT REALLY TAKES NOT JUST A GREAT CONSULTANT WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE ARE BUT IT TAKES A GREAT CLIENT. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO START BY SAYING WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED WITH THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT FINAL MOST IMPORTANT METRIC AS WE LOOK AT THINGS. SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCOPE. I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT YOU KNOW OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANS WILL BE VERY FOCUSED ON IMPLEMENTATION PARTICULARLY THE FIRST PHASE. A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL SEE PLANS YOU KNOW THAT AGAIN ARE VERY ILLUSTRATE STRAIGHTIVE THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL THEY SIT ON A -- ILLUSTRATIVE THEY SIT ON A BEAUTIFUL COFFEE TABLE BUT WHERE DO YOU START? WITH THE PLAN YOU GET FROM US IT WILL BE VERY CLEAR THERE WILL BE A ROADMAP, A PHASE ONE WITH REALISTIC COST ESTIMATES ON HOW TO DO IT. THAT'S RELATING TO OUR CRA BUDGET SO WE CAN AFFORD AND STRATEGICALLY PRIORITIZE IMPROVEMENTS. SO JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BUILT OUR PRACTICE AND WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANS.

YOU KNOW WE TAKE THAT PRETTY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AGAIN JUST LISTENING TO THE SHORT TIME HERE YOU KNOW WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.

SO, AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TODAY AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> SO I WOULD LIKE, THIS IS A BIG PRICE TAG, RIGHT, AND SO WE HAVE A DOWNTOWN ALREADY AND WE'VE HAD SCHRETTS AND WE'VE HAD STUDIES SO I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO US TO PLAN OUR DOWNTOWN WHEN OUR DOWNTOWN

IS PRETTY MUCH PLANNED OUT? >> UM, SO I GUESS IT'S JUST THE DEFINITION OF PLANNED OUT.

I MEAN I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GREAT HISTORIC STRUCTURE I WAS TALKING ABOUT PINELLAS PARK WE ARE GREEN COVE SPRINGS WHICH IS THE COUNTY SEAT OF CLAY COUNTY HISTORIC TOWN. WHEN WE WORK IN THIS TYPE OF A CONTEXT A HISTORIC CITY THAT HAS THAT URBAN FORM ALREADY IN PLACE, YEAH, I DON'T NEED TO DESIGN THE STREET YOU KNOW IT'S THERE WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THE STREET SECTION. WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE THE MISSING PIECES SOMETIMES SOME URBAN DESIGN WE TALK ABOUT MISSING TEETH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CORRIDOR THERE'S A BIG HISTORIC BUILDING THEN YOU WALK A LITTLE FURTHER THERE'S AN EMPTY PARKING LOT OR A BUILDING THAT'S NOT TAKEN CARE OF SO IT'S DIFFERENT.

I GUESS TO YOUR POINT I THINK THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE GREAT BONES FOR DOWNTOWN PLAN BUT WHAT WE LACK IS A STRATEGY AND ACTION PLAN TO REVITALIZE.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TOWARDS AS PART OF THIS DOWNTOWN PLAN.

AGAIN WE WORKED ON THE CRA PLAN SO IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WE UNDERSTAND THAT TOOL KIT THAT'S AVAILABLE YOU KNOW BUT WE WANTS TO LOOK AT OKAY, YOU KNOW THIS IS OUR MENU OF OPTIONS AND WHAT CAN WE PRIORITIZE TO HAVE THE MOST WHAT PROJECTS ARE MOST CATALYTIC, WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO HELP MOVE THAT TIFF EARLY IN THE PROCESS SO THAT WE'LL HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THE SUBSEQUENT PROJECTS AS

WELL. >> GO AHEAD.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US BUILD ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE. BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE QUITE A BIT OF INPUT AND THE SCHRETT CONCEPT HAS BEEN USED A LOT HERE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF JAUNDICED ABOUT -- REALLY MORE ABOUT THE NAME BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

BUT I CAN HEAR PEOPLE NOW SAYING I REMEMBER THE SCHRETTE BACK IN 1980 WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OVER THIS AND HAD A PLAN FOR THIS. THERE'S HISTORY HERE OF THAT KIND OF THING. SO, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PLANS ALREADY WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN PART OF.

WE'VE DONE PARKING STUDIES. SO I WANT IT -- I WANT TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT $150,000 PRODUCT WHEN WE'VE ALREADY GOT A LOT OF PRODUCT OUT THERE THAT WE STILL HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

>> TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS I DON'T THINK YOU'RE INVESTING $158,500 IN THE PLAN.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET ONE YOU'RE INVESTING THAT MONEY INTO PULLING THAT STUFF TOGETHER.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT YOU KNOW THE FIRST TASK IN HERE IS DATA COLLECTION AND LOOKING AT THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT EYEDIES -- IDEAS IN THOSE PLANS AND I VALENTINE EVEN LOOKED AT THEM THAT

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IT'S ABOUT DEVELOPING THAT IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY IT'S ABOUT GETTING MOMENTUM. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TODAY.

CAREY SAYS PROBABLY DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR IT'S DEFINITELY GETTING DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

WE NEED TO START AND CARRY THROUGH WITH THAT MOMENTUM GET THAT YOU PLAN AND START TO MOVE ON IMPLEMENTATION ON PHASE ONE. TO BE CLEAR THERE'S A LOT OF DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANS THAT COSTS A LOT MORE THAN THIS AND THEY'RE FOCUSED ON DELIVERING A BOOK, A LOT OF PICTURES THAT'S NOT CHEAP. BUT AGAIN WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO STRUCTURE THIS PROPOSAL AND STAFF PUSHED US BABE AND PULLED SOME ITEMS OUT YOU KNOW THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT, BUT I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL DELIVER THE VALUE, NOT ON THE PLAN ALTHOUGH YOU WILL BE PLEASED WITH PLAN BUT IT'S REALLY ON THE IMPLEMENTATION.

>> RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN HERE. COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>> SO MADAM MAYOR YOU ARE RIGHT.

WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE NUMBER TO BE VERY HONEST I SAID OKAY, LET ME SEE WHAT'S IN THE MEAT AND POTATOES HERE. HERE'S WHERE I GOT TO A CONCLUSION. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU AT THE END OF THIS. MAYOR, YOU TAKE ALL THE BITS AND PIECES AND THE INFORMATION THAT I'M MISSING OR THE CONNECTING DOTS, I'M MISSING THE DOTS BEING CONNECTED BECAUSE WE'VE LOOKED AT PARKING.

I'M MISSING THE DOTS WITH HAD SOME IDEAS NOT TOO LONG AGO NO, PROBABLY PRECOVID WHICH IS ALREADY BEYOND TWO YEARS. WE LOOKED AT THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO SECOND STREET TO REMEMBER WE LOOKED AT MAKING AN OUTDOOR ACTIVITY ENGAGEMENT AREA THERE OR YOU KNOW CREATINGING SOME NEW THERE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE GREEN WAYS AND TRAILS WHERE IS THAT GOING TO BE.

SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD FIRM HANDLE ON.

THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ENACTING AND ENGAGING OUR DOWNTOWN ACROSS U.S. 1 WE HAVEN'T EVEN FIGURED OUT A WAY TO ENACT THAT WHICH I THINK IS VERY CRITICAL TO THE BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTIES FROM THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE AVAILABLE WHICH IS A COUNTY-OWNED FACILITY WITHIN OUR DOWNTOWN.

MUDDLE MY WAY THROUGH IT. TO SAY, OKAY, I CAN THINK THIS MY TWO QUESTIONS MY ONE QUESTION ABOUT TWO ITEMS ON THE -- GET INTO THE REALM OF MORE OF IT NOT TO EXCEED HOUR BY HOUR EX-PENTURE THAT'S JUST ME LOOKING AT IT FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIME FRAME IS GOING TO BE. YOU ESTIMATED HOW MANY HOURS YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND YOU ESTIMATED WHAT YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE YOU AND PUT A PRICE TAG OF $19,,500 IF I GO TO FRANK WORK COMPONENT I LOOK AT DELIVERABLES ON THE FRAMEWORK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARKET STUDY FRAMEWORK OVERLAY PLANS BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PARKS OF OPEN SPACE WE HAVE A MOBILITY PLAN. LAND USE AND ZONING, THAT'S EXITING -- EXISTING. INFRASTRUCTURE MEANING POTABLE WATER, SEWER, STORM WATER, STREET ESCAPE, SIDEWALK, AGAIN ARE THESE CONTRACTS ALWAYS LUMPSOME OR HAVE YOU DONE A NOT TO EXCEED CONTRACT BEFORE WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT? SO AN HOURLY NOT TO SUCCEED THISES WHY TYPICALLY WE FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO PERFORM THAT IN THERE IT'S REALLY A SIN THAT

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SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW I DON'T SEE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF

COST SAVINGS THAT WAY. >> I JUST HAD TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. WE CAN DO IT WE WILL GIVE YOU AN A+ JOB FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT, THAT'S WHAT THE TAXPAYERS EXPECT.

SO I HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE. YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYOR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A DAUNTING TASK BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE'VE COLLECTED AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST TWO YEARS, LET'S LOOK AT PRECOVID TILL NOW, LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY CHANGED. THIS COMMISSION SITTING RIGHT HERE AND THIS CRA, FPRA BOARD HAS CHANGED A LOT. SO I'M READY TO TIE ALL THOSE TOGETHER AND THEN HAVE A VISION AND A ROADMAP OF HOW DO I CONTINUE THIS SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE ALREADY EITHER HAPPENED UPON OR CREATED OURSELVES.

I'M VERY PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. SO THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> OH, YEAH. OKAY.

I HAVE REVIEWED MANY PLANS THAT YOU GUYS REVIEWED BEFORE I SAT HERE MANY PLANS.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS THIS PROPOSAL YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS LIKE COMMISSION ARE JOHNSON JUST SAID TO PUT EVERYTHING THAT HAS COME BEFORE US AND REVIEW IT ARE YOU ASKING TO TALK ALL ANOTHER PLANS THAT I REVIEWED PARKING AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE REVIEWED AND PUT TOGETHER TO DO DOWNTOWN OR WHAT ARE WE

DOING? >> SO, IT'S CERTAINLY IMPERATIVE THAT WE REVIEW ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW WE WILL JUST TAKE A PARKING STAY.

IF WE'RE JUST GOING OFF AND MAKING A PUNCH OF SUMPSS WITHOUT STUDYING THE PARKING REVIEW.

THIS IS FAR MORE THAN JUST OKAY WE'LL TAKE ALL THESE LANCE AND PUT THEM TOGETHER. RELEASE A PRIORIZATION THAT GOES. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE OF THOSE IDEAS THAT ARE WITHIN THE PLAN.

TO BE VERY CLEAR THERE WILL BE SOME NEW IDEAS THAT ARE INCORPORATED AS PART OF THIS EFFORT, IF THATTENCES A YOUR

QUESTION. >> THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS ALMOST A WHOLE OTHER BRAND NEW WHOLE IDEA WHOLE OTHER PLAN THAT WE'RE COMING TO SEE WITH THE VIDEO AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMING TO SAY HEY, WE REVIEWED EVERYTHING AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THIS IS WHERE WHERE WE WANT TO SEE ASK WHAT WE CAN DO IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING.

>> I THINK, LIKE GEORGE IS SAYING.

>> YOU MIGHT NEED TO GET A LITTLE LOWSER TO THE MIC.

>> WE ARE LOOKING IN ON THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN MAYBE FOCUSING NONE A FOCUS AREA SAYING THESE THREE OR FOUR PROJECTS WE REALLY THINK ARE THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT YOU ALL NEED TO HAVE TO REALLY BUILD THAT MOMENTUM.

TO GEORGE'S POINT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION. WE DON'T WANT TO START OVER, OBVIOUSLY. WE WANT TO START FROM WHERE YOU ARE. SO WE WANT TO REVIEW EVERYTHING AND THEN WE WANT TO TAKE ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE AND MOVE IT FORWARD. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY JUST BE COMPILING AND REGURGITATING BUT WE WANT TO START WITH THAT BASE INFORMATION.

>> SECOND QUESTION ALL YOUR VIDEO AND PRESENTATION ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS AND ALSO REVIEW THIS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ONE OF THE BIGGEST THING IS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND I SAW YOU HEARD YOU SAY WEBSITE, I HEARD YOU SAY ON-LINE SURVEY.

MY QUESTION IS TYPICALLY ON-LINE WEBSITES, I MEAN WEBSITES AND ON-LINE SURVEYS DON'T GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. CERTAIN PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND, CERTAIN PEOPLE DON'T SO WHAT PLANS IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS AND SPEND THIS MONEY I WOULD WANT INPUT FROM EVERYBODY THAT'S IN FORT PIERCE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS DOWNTOWN AREA.

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>> GREAT POINT. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEVER DONE A PLANNING PROSESS WHERE WE RELIED SOLELY ON A WEBSITE IT'S ALWAYS A COMPLEMENT TO IN-PERSON.

SO YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE DOING SMALL GROUP ASK ONE ON ONE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS WORKING WITH STAFF TO IDENTIFY YOU KNOW INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS WE SHOULD TARGET FOR THAT.

WHEN IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAVE, I'M AN ADVOCATE OF NOT HAVING IT IN THE SAME PLACE EVERY TIME. WE MAY NEED TO GO TO SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAYBE DON'T COME TO CITY HALL FOR A MEETING. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY. WE WILL LOOK TO STAFF TO HELP US YOU KNOW HOW CAN WE GET THAT BEST OUTREACH.

THAT'S WHAT IN ADDITION TO THE VIRTUAL THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT TO DO IS MAXIMIZE THOSE IN-PERSON OPPORTUNITIES TO GO OUT YOU KNOW INTO THE COMMUNITY INTO

THOSE LOCATIONS. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>> WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING.

SO, WE TALKED ABOUT CIVIC ENGAGEMENT EARLIER.

WHAT'S YOUR CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE CREOLE SPEAKING AS WELL AS SPANISH SPEAKING?

>> SPANISH WE HAVE COVERED THE CREOLE WE MIGHT NEED TO BRING IN SOME ASSISTANCE FOR THAT, CERTAINLY WILLING TO

DO THAT. >> IS THAT FACTORED INTO THAT MARKETING COST. PUT A FLAT FEE ON THESE

NUMBERS HERE, RIGHT? >> WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THAT BUT IF THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO THE JOB WE'LL FIGURE

THAT OUT. >> VERY NECESSARY.

PART OF OUR MAJOR CORRIDOR WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE SECTIONS, HUGE SECTIONS, BUSINESS OWNERS, RESIDENTS THAT HAVE THESE LANGUAGES THAT ARE VERY PARN THERE.

WHEN YOU PUT THE MAP BACK UP AND IT SHOWS THE GEOGRAPHIC EXTENSION WESTWARD TO SEVENTH STREET WE'RE DEFINITELY INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE, WE'RE CHALLENGING PERPLEXED AND CHURCHES, RIGHT. AND SO, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE GUIDE THERE. MY OTHER QUESTION CAME DOWN TO WHERE HAVE YOU DONE THIS BEFORE.

SO YOU TALK ABOUT PINELLAS. SO AS MADAM CHAIR STATED WE KIND OF HAVE A DOWNTOWN. WE KIND OF HAVE SOME PLANS A LOT OF THEM THROWN TOGETHER. I, TOO, WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU SYNTHESIZE THAT AND PUSH IT BACK TO ME WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THIS WHERE YOU HAVE COME INTO THIS SCENARIO THAT YOU ARE FACED WITH NOW. ESTABLISHED SOMEWHAT DOWNTOWN GOT A LOT OF PLANS, IDEAS, DEVELOPMENTS WE'VE APPROVED. ONE PART I'M EXCITED HOW DO WE BEGIN TO PHASE THIS OUT AND BUILD IT.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE. WHERE HAVE YOU DONE THIS

BEFORE? >> SO IF I CAN START BY TELLING YOU UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN THAN I

THINK IT SHOULD. >> OKAY.

>> AND I JUST MAYBE OFFER THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THROUGH MY 20+ YEAR PLANNING CAREER IT AMAZES ME THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DON'T ISSUE R.F.P.'S JUST TO CREATE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN BASED ON THE PLANS THAT I'VE. HAD I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT.

THE CITY OF SANFORD ON THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER THE COUNTY SEAT OF SEMINOLE WE HAVE EXTENSIVE WORK EXPERIENCE WITH THAT AND HELPING THROUGH THAT REVITALIZATION.

CITY OF KISSIMMEE THE COUNTY SEAT OF OSCEOLA THE CAME WE'VE HAD A CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM UPDATED THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND HELPING THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION STAGES. THE THIRD I WOULD MENTION CERTAINLY MORE BUT GREEN COAST SPRINGS THAT WE'RE JUST IN THE PROCESS OF WE UPDATED THEIR COMP PLAN WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THEIR DOWNTOWN PLAN NOW. SO IT IS NOT ATYPICAL FOR, YOU KNOW, -- WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER FORT PIERCE AND IN THE GROUP ACTUALLY ALL OF THOSE WHO WE MENTIONED ARE CHARACTER COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW.

YOU KNOW FLORIDA, AND NATIVE FLORIDIAN BUTT OF LATE NIGHT JOKES, RIGHT, NO CULTURE. BUT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF CULTURE HERE IN FORT PIERCE AND MANY OTHER CITIES SO IT'S A PASSION OF MINE, RIGHT, THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT STILL PROMOTE LET'S CREATE JOBS, RIGHT, LET'S DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE RIGHT WAY LET'S LEVERAGE OUR HISTORY AND LET'S LEVERAGE THAT CHARACTER. SO WE CAN DO THAT HERE IN

FORT PIERCE. >> THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. BECAUSE WE HAVE CULTURE

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SO THERE ARE SOME TRUSTED COMMUNITY PARTNERS OUT THERE. I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT MOVING IT TO DIFFERENT VENUES.

WE HAVE ABUNDANCE OF GREAT FAITH COMMUNITY HERE AS WELL. SO, AND THAT'S FAITH ON SPANIC SPEAKING FAITH, AS WELL AS CREOLE-SPEAKING FAITH. SO, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY JUST THAT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAITH AND THE NONFAITH COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE ALL THESE ASPECT OF IT THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT RIGHT BECAUSE OUR LAST SURVEY ON-LINE WE GOT WE CAN SEE THE RESPONSE OF WHERE IT CAME FROM.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PIRANHA.

>> OH, I'M EXCITED. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR 12 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD THIS SURVEY, THE PLANS, THE SCHRETTES IT WAS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT TO REALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT AND CAPTURE WHERE THE CITIZENS WANTED THE CITY TO GO.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE I THINK OUR TIMING WAS ALL OFF.

WE COULDN'T IDENTIFY FUNDING WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP REALLY WAS. LET'S GO TO THAT NEXT STEP BUT THAT DELIVERABLE COMES WITH A COMMITMENT FROM US THAT WE WILL TAKE THAT IT NEXT STEP WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN DEVELOPERS MOVE INTO THE AREA WE SEE THE FOLKS MOVING LEFT AND RIGHT. WE HAVE PARKING PROBLEMS WE HAVE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. WE HAVE PEOPLE FIGHTING OVER THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY PROPERTY WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BEFORE SO WE HAVE SEVERAL PARKING STUDIES RIGHT NOW AND A NEW ONE COMING OUT RECENTLY BECAUSE IT'S GETTING TO BE AN ISSUE. SO I THINK OUR TIMING RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN MOST.

I KNOW THE $158,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY BUT IT'S MORE MONEY IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO MOVE AND WHAT TO DO WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO LOOK AT THAT NUMBER BUT TO EXPECT THOSE DELIVERABLES TO COME THROUGH TO COME THROUGH WITHIN SIX MONTHS AND HAVE THE COMMITMENT THEN IT'S REALLY NO COST AT ALL WHEN IT'S ALL OVER WITH.

THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I HAVE BEEN ON THE FIRST PART OF SCHRET, E AND THE PLANNING AND ALL THE TIME AND EVERYBODY IS USING ALL THEIR CREATIVE JUICES TO BE ABLE SAY WHAT THEY WANT THEIR FORT PIERCE TO BE AND WE DID THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHERE IT ENDED. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

>> THE STUDY AREA GOES FROM ON THE NORTH DOWN TO EASTER AVENUE ON THE SOUTH. AND FROM SEVENTH STREET ON THE WEST TO TO THE RIVER. SO SO AND THAT IS A NEW DEFINITION TO ME OF DOWNTOWN DID STAFF SAY TO YOU THIS IS

THE STUDY AREA. >> NO, WE DIDN'T COME UP

WITH THIS ON OUR OWN. >> SO, WE ALSO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING STUDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUDIES THE MOBILITY CONTRACT WITH PEOPLE TALKING TO US ABOUT HOW TO MOVE PEOPLE AND WHOLE NEW CONCEPT OF MOBILITY. MOBILE IS A TRADITIONAL PROBLEM IF ARE DOING THIS YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT ANSWER. GETTING PEOPLE TO CROSS U.S.

1 BOTH WAYS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR DOWNTOWN IS IS REALLY LIMITED BY U.S. 1 BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY HISTORICALLY IN FORT PIERCE THAT U.S. 1 IS NOT SOMETHING PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE OR SAFE CROSSING.

I WOULD SAY. IN FACT, IST

FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? >> THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE.

SO, IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS FROM NOW ON OUR

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IT'S A WHOLE NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT TOWN.

SO I'M INTERESTED IN AND ACTUALLY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO. THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THIS AND MAKE THIS TRULY AN ENLARGED DOWNTOWN I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR FORT

PIERCE. >> I THINK SO, TOO.

MADAM CHAIR WE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING CALLED CONNECTIVITY WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO CONNECT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HOW DO WE DO THAT THROUGH MOBILITY ASPECTS OF IT. IT'S NOT JUST MOVING A CALL HOW DO WE CONNECT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND AGAIN IT'S, IT'S SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TRADITIONAL CULTURAL HOW DO WE TIE THAT AND GET THAT COMFORT SO IT'S NOT TRANSITIONAL. JUST BEFORE YOU KNOW IT IT'S JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW A DIFFERENCE, REALLY. YOU KIND OF FEEL AS THOUGH OKAY, YEAH, I GO TO THIS PART OF DOWNTOWN.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT YOUR PLAN WILL INCLUDE THAT IN TRYING TO HELP US SOLVE

THAT. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. I WOULD TELL YOU TWO THINGS, ONE, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO STARTING IT LOOKING AT ALL THE PLANS THAT DIDN'T GET IMPLEMENTED, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF DEALING WITH AN ARTERIAL THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. EVERY ONE OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WE HAD YOU KNOW SIMILAR SITUATION. OUR PRACTICE OR PHILOSOPHY TO PLANNING IS TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USES ARE INEXTRICABLY LINKED. SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ADVANCING A MOBILITY PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT DOVETAILS PERFECTLY INTO THIS TIMING WHAT WE'LL TRY TO DO.

>> BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW WE'RE DOING THAT AND YOU NEED TO KNOW WE ALSO HAVE A BRIGHT LINE TRAIN COMING THROUGH THIS, RIGHT. A BRAND NEW MARINA.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WE'RE PROUD OF AND THAT WE DROUGHTS BACK THAT WE'VE ALREADY REVITALIZED. AND OF COURSE, NOW, THERE'S A GREAT BIG PIECE OF EMPTY PROPERTY THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE KING'S LANDING THAT'S WITHIN THIS.

SO -- COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> ALL RIGHT, SO.

WE HAVE A NEW DEFINITION NOW OF DOWNTOWN BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THIS MAP BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S COMMENT IF WE'RE MOVING THAT LINE TO SEVENTH STREET THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, RIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES BECAUSE I ALSO GREW UP IN FORT PIERCE, SOS THE OLD DEFINITION TO ME DOWNTOWN WAS EAST OF U.S.

ONE IT REALLY WAS. I GREW UP SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE EVERY LITTLE SPOT ON SEVENTH STREET IS.

I'M SITTING HERE VISIONING THE HOUSES AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>> I THINK, TOO, SO YOU MEAN AFFECT IN A POSITIVE WAY, RIGHT? OR MAYBE NOT?

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> WELL, I THINK YOU HAVE TO

REMEMBER. >> WE GOT TO GET USED TO IT.

>> WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TO. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT PART OF THE ELEMENT WE CAN TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN BUT WE WHEN I START LOOKING AT THIS VISION AND I LIKE THE PLANNING ASPECT OF IT. WE TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT.

ALL THE PARCELS THAT ARE WEST OF U.S. 1 THAT ARE SEMIVACANT. I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THEY'RE GREEN GRASS VACANT BUT THEY COULD BE AT A BETTER USE AND A HIGHER USE. SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO WE CAN START LOOKING AT THAT AND LOOKING THROUGH THIS LENS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

TALKING ABOUT PARKING. WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY REAL ESTATE PARCELS TO BUILD PARKING ONTO SO MAYBE

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>> I HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BUT I'M VISUALIZING MYSELF JUST SO I'M CLEAR SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THIS

MAP IS -- IT'S EASTER. >> IT'S CITRUS ON THE WEST.

OKAY. >> ON THE MAP I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE THE LINES ARE GOING FROM AVENUE SOUTH TO PAST DELAWARE STOPPING RIGHT BEFORE ANTHEM PLACE.

WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ISN'T DOWNTOWN MY RESPONSE WOULD BE THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT INCLUDES DOWNTOWN BUT WE DON'T NEED WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DEFINE THE EXACT LINES

FOR DOWNTOWN. >> I'M VISUAL AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LINES I KNOW THE AREA WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND IS -- WE INCLUDED A LOT OF CONSULTANTS ARE ACTIVE CONSULTANTS IN THE CONVERSATION WE STILL HAVE OUR OUR PEACOCK DISTRICTS WE WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE BUT NOT INCLUDING THEM IN THIS TALKING ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, MOBILITY CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS THAT HAS TO BE APART OF THIS CONVERSATION THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT INSTEAD OF JUST SESSIONS OFF OUR LITTLE DISTRICT.

THAT WAS CONFUSING ME. IN MY AGENDA PACKET I HAVE IT TO CITRUS ON THE SCREEN IT GOES TO HAMPTON.

>> THIS IS THE CORRECT, I BELIEVE.

>> I'M TELLING YOU A LOT OF TIME.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU EXPLAINED IT.

I KNOW WHAT I READ THEN I'M LOOKING IN FRONT OF ME NOW.

ONE OF THE POINTS YOU BELIEVE YOU LOOK AT FUNDING FOR CRA FOR US THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ISOLATE.

WE ARE STARTING TO MAYBE COME INTO SOME OPPORTUNITY FUNDING WITH THE CRA TO MAKE SOME INVESTMENT BECAUSE FOR A LONG TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CAPITAL THERE.

SO FOR ME IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER WE PRESENT IN PHASES THAT IT LINES UP TO THAT. BECAUSE, THAT'S BEEN THE PIECE THAT'S BEEN MISSING. WE GOT ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL SIGNY OBJECTS THERE'S NO CASH, NOWHERE TO PULL A TRIGGER ON ANYTHING AND WE CANNOT HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE HITS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

IT'S HAPPENED TOO MUCH, I THINK.

IN MY OPINION. SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LINES UP. RIGHT AMOUNT OF CAPITAL WHATEVER PROJECT THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE IT AND REALIZE IT BEING DONE EVEN IF IT'S JUST -- PUTTING SOME TREES IN WE GOT TO SEE SOMETHING DONE TOWARDS THIS

PLAN. >> YES.

UNDERSTOOD. I WILL JUST TELL YOU WITHIN OUR TEAM EVERYBODY KIND OF HAS DIFFERENT ROLES IN THERE IT'S ABOUT THAT FIRST PHASE. I TALKED ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP I WILL GO BACK TO THAT.

WE CAN ONLY DO SO MANY PROJECTS IN A YEAR TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES TO SEE THE HOPES HOPES, ASPIRATIONS OF THE PEOPLE WE'RE WORKING WITH.

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COMMISSIONERLY TO YOUR POINT IT DOES, WE GOT TO PUT THAT TOGETHER WE GOT TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY ULTIMATELY ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT THAT STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT IN THAT IMPLEMENTATION TO REALIZE THAT. BUT, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE MY PERSONAL FOCUS YOU KNOW WITH THE FIRM IS ON THAT FIRST PHASE OF IMPLEMENTATION.

WE'LL HAVE THE WHOLE VISION AND WE'LL HAVE SUBSEQUENT PHASES BUT THAT FIRST ONE WILL GET A LOT OF THOUGHT.

>> OKAY. >> IS THAT THE CORRECT MAP?

>> I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE FINAL THAT'S IN THIS POWER POINT BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU ARE KEPT UP TO SPEED ON THAT. AS A BOUNDARY.

I'M TELLING YOU IT HAS BEEN SO MANY TIMES BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT INCLUDING DELAWARE AS DELAWARE HAS ITS OWN VIBE AND FEEL AND SHOULD WE GO UP TO ORANGE. THAT WAS SO MANY.

SEE, YOU'RE RIGHT ON. >> THIS ONE INCLUDES DELAWARE. THIS IS MORE INCLUSIVE AS OPPOSED TO THIS ONE. YEAH, OKAY.

YEAH. >> MADAM CHAIR YOU KNOW OTHER AREAS WE CAN FOCUS IS NORTH OF BAPTIST GOING UP NORTH ALL THE WAY TO STATE ROAD A-1 A AND ALSO INCLUDING THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF AREA.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER WITH THESE CONSULTANTS. I'M GOING TO GET ALL THESE PLANNERS TOGETHER WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO STUDY AND HAVE THE FOCUS, THE PRIMARY FOCUS TO BRING ABOUT A ROADMAP FOR OUR YOU KNOW VISIONARY IMPLEMENTATION. SO WE'LL GET THIS TOGETHER.

>> YEAH, AND I SUGGEST YOU DON'T GET THE PLANNERS TOGETHER AND YOU JUST SAY THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

[LAUGHTER] AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS WE WILL IDENTIFY THE AREA OF FOCUS.

>> BUT RIGHT NOW, THE AREA THAT'S IDENTIFIED ON THIS SCREEN DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE SAME ZONING DOES IT? IT DOESN'T. I THINK MAJORITY OF THE DOWNTOWN AND ACROSS THE STREET HAS THE FUTURE OF LAND USE DESIGNATION WITH THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITH OUR PLANNING CONSULTANTS SO THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING COMING TO YOU AS CITY CITY COMMISSION. A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLAYERS AND OPINIONS WE WILL MAKE SURE AS STAFF THAT WE GET THE BEST PRODUCT OUT THERE THAT INKORPTS AIL OF OUR NEEDS. DEFINITELY WE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THAT STRETCH BECAUSE ALL OF THAT IS PUBLICLY OWNED WHAT IS THE FUTURE WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY THERE AND THAT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED IN OUR COMMUNITY. BASED ON THE FIGURES THAT THAT I SEE ON PAPER AND BASED ON THIS KIND OF A BOUNDARY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE DELAWARE. BASED ON AS COMPARED TO I SHOULD SAY THE AGENDA IDEA THAT I HAVE -- AGENDA ITEM

THAT I HAVE. >> YES, SIR.

>> INTERSECTION OF DELAWARE AND SEVENTH STREET IT'S

IMPORTANT. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I CAN TELL YOU IN MY MIND THAT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY IT BECAUSE I GET A CHANCE TO, EVERYTHING THAT'S EAST OR WEST OF U.S. 1 IN THAT AREA IS NOT AS ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE AS WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TALK ABOUT IS HOW MUCH LAND IS OWNED BY THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD BETWEEN SITTUS AVENUE TO U.S. ONE. MAJORITY PLAYERS AND OWNERS OF THAT LITTLE PROPERTY ARE IN THAT ZONE.

IF YOU WERE TO ADD IT ALTOGETHER THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT SIX ACRES FROM CITRUS TO ORANGE.

>> OH, YEAH. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE BRIGHT LINES RUNNING ON THAT RAIL TRACK SYSTEM.

WE HAVE NEW STUFF ABOUT KINGS LANDING 2.50 YEARS AGO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FOCUS ON SOME COMPONENTS OF THE BRIGHT LINE STATION. SO I WILL PUT THAT OUT THERE

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EAST TRACKS YOU COULD HAVE, I CAN SEE AN AERIAL WALKWAY GOING INTO OUR DOWNTOWN FROM YOU KNOW U.S. ONE OVER INTO DOWNTOWN. OH YEAH, IMG JUST LANDING

OUT PERONA MIGHT AS WELL. >> GO AHEAD.

>> AND YOU JUST KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT IT.

I CAN SEE A BREWERY DISTRICT ON FIFTH STREET.

THESE ARE JUST JEREMIAH'S IDEAS.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR A CHARRETTE.

>> CHARRETTE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

>> WHATEVER THE WORD IS SHE WE SIT IN A ROOM AND TALK

ABOUT THIS STUFF. >> AND DON'T FORGET THE ABANDONED RINKER BUILDING BEHIND THERE AT DELAWARE -- NO, YOU KNOW RIGHT BEHIND CITRUS AVENUE.

>> YEAH, THE BIG -- THE BIG RINK THINGS THAT GOES TO

NOWHERE. >> JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE GOING TO BE BE PLANTING THAT SEED FOR YOU AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING.

YEAH I WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPEN THAT ZONE UP NO DOUBT. WE'LL HAVE TO.

BUT, HERE WE ARE. >> OKAY.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ANYBODY READY TO

MAKE A MOTION? >> SURE.

IF I CAN GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE.

JUST TO BE CLEAR THESE FUNDS ARE COMING OUT OF THE CRA?

>> CRA. >> YEAH.

>> WE'RE NOT USED TO HAVING ANY MONEY.

>> THERE'S EVEN AN ACCOUNT NUMBER ON HERE I DON'T KNOW

WHAT IT MEANS. >> SO MADAM MAYOR THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSAL COMPLETED BY S&ME

CONSULTANTS. >> IS THERE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[c. Approve CRA Advisory Committee Commercial Facade Grant Award Recommendations]

AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS. >> MR. MIMS.

>> MADAM CHAIR, WE DO HAVE OUR REDEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST THAT IS HERE AND SHE'S GOING TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF OUR FIRST FPRA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE OFFERING AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I BELIEVE WE HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION AND SHE'S GOING TO GO OVER

THAT WITH YOU TODAY. >> ALL RIGHTY.

>> MADAM MAYOR REAL QUICK IF WE COULD.

I DO HAVE TO DISCLOSE DISCLOSE THAT I HAVE INVOLVEMENT IN ONE OF THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE IN OUR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT THAT'S SOAK.

AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION THERE'S PROBABLY I THINK I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT THERE'S SOME OPTIONS BY MS. EARLY AS FAR AS HOW THE MONIES CAN BE ALLOCATED. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A VOTE IF THEY'RE ALL LUMPED TOGETHER THEN I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO US HAVE COMPLETE VOTES.

>> LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I THINK THERE'S SOME OPTIONS OUT THERE THAT STAFF MIGHT PRESENT THAT MIGHT GIVE US SOME LEEWAY. OBVIOUSLY, LEGAL COUNSEL.

>> YOU LET US KNOW IF WE GET INTO THAT TERRITORY.

>> OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE FWRA BOARD. I AM GOING TO PRESENT THE COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANT RECOMMENDATION.

AS YOU KNOW THE INTENT OF THE COMMERCIAL FACADE PROGRAM IS TO SUPPORT REVITALIZATION OF THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND THE FPRA DISTRICT BY ENHANCING THE APPEARANCE OF BUILDINGS AND ELIMINATING BLIGHT.

OUR PROGRAM OFFERS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IN THE FORM OF A REIMBURSEIBLE GRANT MATCHING 50% UP TO $25,000.

OUR TIMELINE WE COLLECT THE PREAPPLICATION THE PREAPPLICATION PERIOD WAS OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

THEN WE HAD THE APPLICATION PERIOD DECEMBER TO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OUR CITY STAFF EVALUATED THE APPLICATIONS AGAINST THE EVALUATION CRITERIA AND OUR CITY STAFF THAT EVALUATED THE APPLICATIONS WERE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MILLION CHEYENE HARMAGE SPECIAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR AND OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR JENNIFER HOFMEISTER. IN MARCH LAST WEEK THE COMMITTEE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FPRA BOARD AND I WILL GO OVER THOSE HERE MOMENTARILY.

OUR STAFF EVALUATED THE APPLICATIONS ON THE FOLLOWING EVALUATION CRY TERIA.

SO THE VISUAL IMPACT. THE PRODUCT AESTHETICALLY DID THE PROJECT AESTHETICALLY CHANGE THE BUILDING THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING.

DID IT ELIMINATE BLIGHT. DID THE PROJECT -- THE

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SO THE TOTAL POSSIBLE POINTS WAS 300 POINTS.

809 DELAWARE AVENUE SCORED 300 OUT OF 300 POINTS.

2 -- 825 NORTH UNION DRIVE ACCORD 293.

1105 SCORED 292. AS YOU KNOW WE SET A-- SET ASIDE $100,000 FOR THIS PROJECT THEREFORE THESE FOUR PROPERTIES ARE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR AWARDS.

THE FIRST ONE HERE IS 809 DELAWARE AVENUE.

IT IS CURRENTLY A VACANT BUILDING.

THERE'S FUTURE UTILIZATION IS BETRO, BAKERY AND WINE BAR. AND ADDITION OF A DECK AND PERGOLA. TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR EXTERIOR IS $50 HOWE AND THE GRANT AMOUNT REQUEST IS FOR $25,000. THE NEXT PROPERTY IS 825 NORTH DRIVE WHICH IS THE CURRENT HOME OF CAPTAIN CYCLICALLY'S RESTAURANT THEY ARE LOOKING TO ADD AN OUTDOOR SEATING DECK FOR APPROXIMATELY 40 PEOPLE.

TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS IS $80,000 AND THEIR GRANT AMOUNT REQUEST IS FOR $25,000.

THE NEXT PROPERTY 1105 SEAWAY DRIVE THEIR FACADE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE STUCCO PREPARATIONS, LIGHT TEXTURE TO ALL EXTERIOR WALLS, PLASTER STOPS ON STUCCO HARDY BOARD AND THERE'S AN EXAMPLE HERE ON THE PHOTO IN THE BOTTOM. FUTURE BUILDING INTENTIONS INCLUDE A COFFEE AND BAGEL SHOP, RETAIL, AND ADDITIONAL RESTAURANTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING.

THEIR TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS 54,000 AND THEIR GRANT REQUEST IS FOR $25,000.

AND THE LAST PROPERTY 906 DELAWARE AVENUE, CURRENTLY A VACANT BUILDING. THEIR FUTURE UTILIZATION IS A MULTIPRACTITIONER PHYSICIANS OFFICE.

THEIR FACADE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO INCLUDE A SIGN, APPROVED PARKING AND LANDSCAPING WITH IRRIGATION AND A ROOFTOP SCREENING TO OBSTRUCT VIEW OF DUCTS AND MECHANICAL UNIT. THEIR TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR EXTERIOR PROJECT IS $66,000 AND THE GRANT AMOUNT IS FOR $25,000. SO OUR NEXT STEPS.

SO ONCE YOU MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION TONIGHT THEN WE WILL COME BACK AT THE APRIL MEETING AND THEN YOU WILL EXECUTE THOSE AGREEMENTS. THE APPLICANTS MUST RECEIVE THEIR BUILDING PERMITS WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE EXECUTION OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT.

ALL THE APPLICANTS SHALL INCUR ALL OF THE PROJECT COSTS SHALL RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT ONLY AFTER ALL THE IMMATERIAL PROFESSIONALS ARE MADE.

THE PROJECT MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF THE BUILDING ISSUANCE AND THEN THE CHECK WILL BE DISPERSED UPON RECEIPT OF WRITTEN NOTIFICATION PERMITS AND THEN COPIES OF THEIR PAID INVOICES.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO APPROVE THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND AWARD THE GRANTS TO THE HIGHEST STRENGTH COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANT APPLICANTS.

I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ALL RIGHTY, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

>> A COUPLE QUICK ONES. IT LOOKED LIKE BASED ON YOUR SCORE CRITERIA THERE WAS A GOOD LINE DESIGNATION IS THAT KIND OF WHERE YOU ENDED UP WITH FOUR PROJECTS RATHER

THAN SIX OR EIGHT? >> CORRECT.

BECAUSE OF THE TOP THE HIGHEST RANKED PROPERTIES WERE THE ONES THAT ALL REQUESTED $25,000.

SO IF WE BASED IT ON $100,000 THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED LAST SUMMER THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS

FOR. >> WHAT HAPPENS WITH IF THE PROJECTS, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM WOULD UNDERSPEND WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE BASED ON TODAY'S ECONOMY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH ANY MONEYS THAT COULD

BE LEFTOVER? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE WILL TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR YOUR

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT. >> OKAY.

>> WHAT'S THE PROJECT TIMELINE FOR EACH OF THESE?

>> THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS WITHIN SIX MONTHS AND THEN OF THE DAY THAT YOU EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT THEN THEY HAVE 12 MONTHS FROM THERE TO

COMPLETE THE PROJECT. >> 18 MONTHS.

>> 18 MONTHS TOGETHER. -- 18 MONTHS TOTAL.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING HOW YOU CAME UP WITH JUST THE FOUR AS OPPOSED TO SPREADING IT OUT

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MORE. >> YES, I CAN GO OVER THAT.

>> BECAUSE YOU HAD CLEARLY FOUR THAT SCORED SO WELL AND ONE IS A WANTED $25,000 AND IT FIT IN WITH THEIR PLANS.

>> THEY WERE THE HIGHEST RANKED BASED ON OUR EVALUATION CRITERIA. JUST THE HIGHEST RANKED.

THE ONE THAT FOLLOWED AFTER THAT THE FIFTH ONE THAT SCORED 218 POINTS. BUT WE RECOMMENDED --

>> SO JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THERE'S IF I LOOK AT THE CUT LINE, VISUAL IMPACT SO JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ONES IN GENERAL SPEAKING THAT SCORED A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN THE INDIVIDUAL WAS THAT IMPACTED BY MAYBE NOT PRESENTING GRAPHS OR END PRODUCTS OF WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO.

NOT NECESSARILY THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SOME ARE VERY COSTLY TO GET DECLINES PLANS DRAWN. THEY SAID JUST GIVE US A BRIEF DESCRIPTION. I WASN'T PART OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE I JUST TOLD THEM THIS IS IS CRITERIA THEN THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BASE YOUR

INFORMATION ON. >> RIGHT.

BECAUSE YOU SAID MS. HANDWRITTENAGE.

>> MOORE-WELLS. >> THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT SORTED THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND CAME BACK THEN IT WENT

TO THE CRA. >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. GOTCHA.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT KIND OF CONCERNED AND THEN ALL OF THESE ARE IN THE FPRA ZONE.

>> CORRECT. >> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT

PART. >> ALL IN THE FPRA AND THE IMPACT WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE.

AS FAR AS I CAN TELL LOOKING AT THESE THEY ALL HAD SOME TYPE OF EXTERIOR ENHANCEMENT IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, EITHER ADDING DECKS OR PAINTING, OR YOU COULD SEE IT FROM DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, OBVIOUSLY, THAT SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED THERE.

A LOT OF IT THE REACTIVATION I FORGET THAT THAT WAS APART OF IT. WE'RE TAKING BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT ACTIVE PER SE NOW AND GETTING THEM BACK ACTIVE AND ON THE ROLE. I THINK OUR GOAL WAS TO GET SOME OF THESE ABANDONED BUILDINGS AND SPUR THE OWNERS TO TAKE THIS AND YOU KNOW TO SPEND UP FRONT IS ALL ON THE OWNER. SO IT'S UP TO THEM TO DOCUMENT AND COME BACK WITH THOSE RECEIPTS AND CLOSE OUT OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING PERMITS I GUESS.

SO THAT MEANS PASS FINAL INSPECTION AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. CLOSE THAT OUT.

OKAY, THANK YOU. I THINK THE VISUAL IMPACT IT'S IF YOU ARE NOT I JUST WISH AT THE END OF DAY WE WOULD HAVE HAD MORE MONEY. ADVISORS FOOD THAT I WISH SOME OF THESE WERE ON ORANGE AVENUE.

>> I JUST WAS THINKING THIS. WHY AREN'T THEY ON ORANGE AVENUE. THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE RATHER THAN THE ONE GETTING THE $25,000 OF COURSE MY IMPACTS WILL BE A HECK OF A LOT BETTER I WISH WE HAD MORE MONEY TO PICK UP SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ESPECIALLY

ORANGE AVENUE. >> AGREED.

AGREED. IS THAT MORE VISUAL.

THE BUSINESS TYPE WAS 15 POINTS THEN THE FPRA PLAN WAS 15 POINTS. SO I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY MAXIMIZE A POINTS.

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809. >> THEY SCORED THE MAXIMUM POINTS. SO GOING FORWARD WITHOUT TRYING TO SHARE ANY PROPRIETARY INFORMATION WHEN WE ARE HAVE THIS GRANT OUT HERE IF WE COULD LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS WAS A MAXIMUM-POINT WINNER AND GIVE SOME OTHER PROPERTIES SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT TO DO IN ORANGE AVENUE SO MAYBE WE MIGHT BE.

WITH THAT CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THIS IS HOW YOU HOW WE HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING THIS MONEY. I THINK THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE ALWAYS GREAT LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES.

BUT I'M SURE WE'LL BE DOING MAYBE WE THINK ABOUT BREAKING THAT UP IN BUCKETS. WE ALSO HAVE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND BEST PRACTICES OF THIS IS HOW YOU WOULD HOW YOU WOULD LOOK AT THIS IS WHAT LOOKS GOOD.

SO IT GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION IF DIDN'T SOMEONE I WOULD BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND VISUAL IMPACT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOME TYPE OF PICTURE. I SOME BUT THAT COSTS MONEY TO PRODUCE THAT HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT HELP LOOKS

LIKE? >> I ALSO LIKE.

SO FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND THERE MIGHT BE SOME BE SOME ENCOURAGEMENT. AND SO.

-- ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

CAN WE REPEAT THIS SOON MR. MIMS? ANY FRIENDS OUT THERE IN THE FPRA.

WE SEE THE MONEY COME ROLLING IN AGAIN.

>> JUST APPROVE SOME BUDGET. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THE FPRA IS GETLE HEALTHIER EVERY DAY.

YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THIS PROGRAM OR RELAUNCH THIS PROGRAM, OR RIGHT NOW YOU CAN EXTEND THE FUNDING FOR THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE BEEN RANKED SO IT IS COMPLETELY AT YOUR DISCRETION.

>> WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TODAY.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION --

>> NO, NO, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY LIKE THAT.

DOYLE A LITTLE BIT OF THINKING ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION TODAY AND MATCH UP WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER AND SOME OF THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST ALREADY WHO HAVE DONE SOME OF THIS PLANNING AND THINKING MAYBE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO THINK ABOUT IF THERE WAS AN EXTENSION OF FUNDS. I'M NOT SAYING BUT WE KNOW AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THAT AND THEN WE GO BACK AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

NOT MAKE DECISION DATE. >> WE HEARD FROM OUR FPRA ADVISORY THEY WILL COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR ORANGE AVENUE. AND PERHAPS WE CAN I'M NOT SAYING JUST MAKE IT FOR ORANGE AVENUE BUT ADOPT SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT AND MAKE THAT PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO PRESENT. THEN IT FLOWS IN LINE IT WITH. NOT ONLY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT BUT HERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN HELP FUND THE

PROJECT. >> UH-HUH.

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>> YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT EITHER WAY.

>> MISS COX WERE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> I HAVE A FORM FOR HIM. >> OKAY.

>> SO, COMMISSIONERS DO WE WANT -- THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HIS EFFORT THOUGH, RIGHT?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH. MAYBE FOR LEGAL.

BY DOING IT IN A SEPARATE VOTE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH THE OVERALL VOTE BECAUSE BY NOT SELECTING SOMETHING OR SELECTING SOMETHING AND LEAVING ONE OF THEALTIVES OUTSIDE YOU ARE STILL

INVOLVED WITH THE VOTE. >> WELL, THERE'S A FINITE POT OF MONEY. THERE'S $100,000.

SO BY THEORETICALLY, YES, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS ALSO TRUE. THEORETICALLY THE BOARD CAN AWARD SOMEONE OTHER THAN THOSE TOP FOUR.

THEORETICALLY THE BOARD CAN GO BELOW THAT RED LINE AND AWARD A $10,000 GRANT. YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO YOU COULD AWARD LESS THAN $25,000 TO THE TOP FOUR. IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU FOLLOW ON THAT

RECOMMENDATION. >> IF IT'S GOING TO BE A RECUSAL IT NEEDS EITHER TO BE APART OF THE TOTAL YOU KNOW THIS DISCUSSION AND DECISION OR IT NEEDS NOT TO BE APART OF ANYTHING AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

I KNOW YOU'RE THE LEGAL MIND.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS CLEAN AND EASY.

>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE MOTION IS MADE.

SO IF A MOTION IS MADE TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO SELECT THE TOP FOUR AT $25,000 EACH IF THAT'S THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE THEN MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ABSTENTION AS WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. IF A DIFFERENT MOTION IS MADE THEN WE WILL, I WILL GIVE MY RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT. ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS?

[LAUGHTER] >> WELL, ANY TIME YOU RECUSE YOURSELF YOU ARE AFFECTING -- YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING BY ABSTENTION ANY TIME YOU DO THAT.

>> I THINK SOMEBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION EITHER FOR ALL OF IT OR EACH ONE OF IT AND WE'LL TAKE EACH VOTE AS IT COMES. WHOEVER WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION.

SURE. SO NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID THAT THE MOTION WE THIS IS JUST A

RECOMMENDATION. >> YES.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY COME BACK AND SAY HEY THESE FOUR GET $20,000 AND THAT LEAVES ANOTHER $20,000 FOR ANOTHER

PROJECT? >> WE COULD.

>> I'M NOT INCLINED TO DO THAT.

BUT YOU COULD. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

SO THE CONCERN HERE IS FROM MY COLLEAGUE HERE IS THAT THIS 906 DELAWARE AVENUE HE'S HAD SOME I GUESS TALKING TO HELP WHATEVER YOU SAID IT WAS, THAT MY LAWYER HAT IS YOU ON NOW THAT WE'RE GOING COME BACK AND GET SOME TYPE RECAN COME BACK AND GET SOME KIND OF COMPLAINT THAT MAYBE NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX DIDN'T GET ANY MONEY BECAUSE YOU EXCLUDED YOURSELF OR WHATEVER.

MY LAWYER HAT IS OFF NOW I TOOK OFF MY COMMISSION HAT BUT I PUT IT BACK ON REAL QUICK.

WITH YOU COMMISSIONER PARRENO -- -- PIRANHA ABSTAINING IS STILL A VOTE TO ME.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS JUST KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OUT THERE BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN HEARD TONIGHT WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT WE CAN ALL GET LETTERS COMING BACK FROM SOMEBODY, FIVE, SIX OR

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SEVEN DOWN THE LANE. >> MADAM CHAIR IF I MAY.

SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF COMMISSIONER GAINES.

LOOK, I'M ALWAYS OF THE OPINION OF ACTING IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, RIGHT. SO, I'LL SAY THAT.

IF THERE IS AN APPEARANCE OF AN ISSUE BETTER TO AVOID THE ISSUE. BUT AGAIN, UNTIL THERE'S A SPECIFIC MOTION ON THE TABLE IT'S REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE

FOR ME TO OPINE FURTHER. >> SOMEBODY WANT TO TRY A

MOTION. >> IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION.

SO THE ISSUE AT HAND IS 906 DELAWARE.

>> THE FOURTH ONE. OKAY.

>> SO, IF I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR ALL PROPERTIES EXCEPT 906

DELAWARE AVENUE. >> IS WILL A SECOND.

>> SECOND. ARE WE OKAY SO FAR?

>> I THINK YOU CREATED AN ISSUE.

I DO, TOO. >> I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

>> I SECOND IT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DO YOU

WANT TO SPEAK. >> NO I WAS GOING SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. IT GOT UNCOMFORTABLE REALLY

FAST. >> WE CAN DO TWO THINGS.

THE EASIEST THING HONESTLY SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO IF IT'S YOUR DESIRE TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS IS AND THE APPORTIONMENT AS IS IN WHICH CASE WE KNOW THE ANSWER AS FAR AS HOW TO

PROCEED. >> SO MADAM MAYOR THAT IS MY MOTION SO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMENDMENT AS STATED.

>> IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHTY. >> OKAY.

ARE WE READY TO CALL THE ROLL?

>> OKAY. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

ZMIGSER JOHNSON. >> SUSTAINED DUE TO CONFLICT.

>> WHAT YOU SAID UNTIL THERE'S A MOTION I CAN'T

TELL YOU WHAT'S GOOD OR BAD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO THE POINT AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ASK STAFF THAT WE VISIT THIS CONVERSATION. I THINK WE HAVE A HEALTHY APPETITE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE WHAT WAS SET FORTH.

I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IF WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN BUDGET, I DON'T LOOK AT THE FINE NUMBERS.

BUT I JUST LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE JUST GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS EVEN IF IT'S A $20,000, $10,000 I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A GREAT ENTHUSIASM TO WANT TO FIX THESE PROPERTIES.

IF WE CAN DO THAT AND SHOW THAT THAT'S HOW THE FPRA IS WORKING RIGHT NOW WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES TO BEAUTIFY OUR CITY, WHICH IS HIGH RANKED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DECIDE. WE DON'T GET AN UPDATE ON

THOSE NUMBERS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, THAT WE HAD A GOOD RESPONSE.

WE HAD SOME QUALITY APPLICATIONS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT MOMENTUM GOING. I APPRECIATE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE AND THAT WE WANT TO HELP THEM IMPROVE IF WE CAN IMPROVE. IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE.

>> MADAM CHAIR I THINK IT WILL BE PRUDENT FOR THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO COME MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING IN THE NEXT FPRA MEETING HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE OPERATING BUDGET AND ALSO THE RETAINED EARNINGS FUND.

JUST THE MONIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE FPRA TO DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY AND ALSO WHAT WE HAVE ENCUMBERED AND IDENTIFIED FOR A PROJECT IN THE FUTURE.

FROM THAT INFORMATION I BELIEVE YOU ALL CAN MAKE AN

INFORMED DECISION. >> I THINK SO, TOO.

WE APPROVED THE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT FOR THE BUDGET LAST YEAR BUT THIS WOULD BE FOR CURRENT BUDGET.

YES, OKAY. GOOD JOB MISS GARCIA.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU.

[d. FPRA Resolution No. 22-02, Authorizing the FPRA to convey eleven (11) parcels located near 322 North 2nd Street, the King's Landing Site, to Audubon Development, Inc.]

>> OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE FWFPRA RESOLUTION A RESOLUTION OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY A DEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO CONVEY 11 PARCELS LOCATED NEAR 322 NORTH 2ND STREET THE KING'S LANDING SITE TO AUDUBON DEVELOPMENT INC. AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR AND AGENCY ATTORNEY TO SIGN ANY DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO

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EFFECTIVE DATE. >> SO MR. MIMS IS THAT MISS

EARLY OR. >> YOU IT'S DEFINITELY

MS. EARLY. >> MADAM SHARE, MEMBERS OF THE FPRA BOARD YET PREVIOUSLY IN YOUR CAPACITIES AS BOTH CRA BOARD MEMBERS AND CITY COMMISSIONERS YOU APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH AUDUBON THIS IS THE FINAL RESOLUTION THAT WILL AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF THE DEED TO TRANSFER ALL OF THE PROPERTIES AND ENCOMPASSED IN THE KING'S LANDING SITE TO AUDUBON. THAT TRANSFER WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE REVERTER PROVISION ALLOWING THE FPRA TO REENTER AND RETAKE POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY IN THE EVENT THAT THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS ARE NOT MET BY THE DEVELOPER. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

PLEASE LET ME KNOW. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHTY. IS THERE A MOTION.

>> MADAM CHAIR I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF FPRA RESOLUTION NUMBER 22-02. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>> ROLL CALL]

[e. Termination of Agreement to Lease and Improve the Old St. Anastasia Catholic School with The Lindsay School of the Arts, Inc.]

>> NEXT ITEM IS TERMINATION OF AGREEMENT TO LEASE AND IMPROVE THE OLD ST. ANASTASIA CATHOLIC SCHOOL WITH THE LINDSEY SCHOOL OF ARTS.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, I BRING THIS ITEM TO YOUR ATTENTION PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT BEGAN BACK IN OKAY OF 2019. IT BEGAN BEFORE THE COVID PANDEMIC STRUCK OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS WORLD.

SO, BASICALLY, PROGRESS WAS HALTED.

IT WAS TOLD AS PER THE GOVERNOR'S DIRECTIVE WITH THE STATE OF EMERGENCY AND THEN WE SUBSEQUENTLY HAD TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THAT LEASE WHEREBY A PROVISION FOR PROGRESS WAS MOVED FROM TWEM MONTHS TO 28 MONTHS.

SO NOW AS OF FEBRUARY 2022 WE'RE AT THAT 28 MONTH THRESHOLD. WHERE STAFF THIS TO EVALUATE OF THAT STRUCTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY BASED ON MY REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE TENANT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT SUBSTANTIVE PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. AND AT THIS TIME I AM RECOMMENDING TERMINATION OF THIS LEASE AGREEMENT.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN SEEK OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO GET THIS VERY VITAL CORNER DEVELOPED.

IT IS THE GATEWAY TO NOT ONLY THE ARTS DISTRICT BUT ALSO THE LINCOLN PARK DISTRICT.

SO IT IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE. I DO BELIEVE THE CLIMATE, THE FINANCIAL CLIMATE RIGHT NOW FOR DEVELOPMENT IS HOT.

I THINK FORT PIERCE IS JUST A HOT COMMODITY.

UVL, PROGRESS WAS -- UNFORTUNATELY, PROGRESS WAS NOT MADE TO A SATISFACTORY LEVEL WITH THIS LEASE AND THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME.

>> YEAH, THAT WAS TOO BIG OF A HILL FOR THEM TO CLIMB.

COMPLICATED BY THE PANDEMIC. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> BUT THE LYNDSAY SCHOOL OF ARTS IS STILL IN BUSINESS

AND WE WISH THEM SUCCESS. >> ACTUALLY.

THEY'RE GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> MADAM MAYOR.

YOU DRIVE BY THE BUILDING AND YOU CAN TELL IT'S JUST EVERY DAY SEEMS SOMETHING HAS FALLEN OFF OF IT.

THE SPALDING OF THE PILLARS EVERYTHING IS IN DISREPAIR.

I ALWAYS WANTED SINCE THE EXCITEMENT GREW WE HAD PROBABLY 30 PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF IT WHEN WE FIRST PASSED THAT. IT WAS EXCITING.

WE REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. I THINK UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES WITHOUT ALL THE PANDEMICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THERE WAS A GOOD CHANCE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEIR FUND-RAISING TOGETHER AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS SEEMED TO BE STRONG. I THINK IT WAS A GOOD DECISION AT THE TIME THAT WE MADE IT.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, STUFF LIKE THIS DOES HAPPEN.

WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE AT THAT POINT IN TIME AGAIN OUR TIMING IS RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY IN THERE AS A STRONG ANCHOR FOR THAT WHOLE AREA AND BUILD IT UP. I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS. >> SO REAL QUICK.

SO THIS IS APART OF THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR WE JUST FINISHED TALKING ABOUT IT.

>> YES, SIR, IT REALLY LEADS INTO OUR DOWNTOWN.

I TOO, REMEMBER THE ENTHUSIASM BEHIND THIS.

I WASN'T ELECTED THEN BUT I REMEMBER BEING APART OF WATCHING MEETINGS AND WATCHING THIS.

I GUESS SO HAVE THEY BEEN, HAVE THEY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS OR UPDATED THIS?

>> YES, SIR. WE'VE TALKED AND WE'VE ALSO

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I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. USUALLY I WOULD HEAR AND I HAVE NOT. I JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST KNOW FROM OUR STANDPOINT THAT YOU WERE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE LINDSAY SCHOOL OF ARTS.

>> YOU TOLD THEM THIS WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE RECOMMENDING?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> MADAM MAYOR.

JUST TO ADD I HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON THE IDEA THAT LINDSAY WILL BE APART OF THIS FACILITY IN SOME WAY.

I JUST THINK NOW IS A GOOD TIME FOR A RESET AND RESTART AND LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT BUILDING ITSELF.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE.

IT'S A BIG ENDEAVOR TO WHOEVER VENTURES INTO THIS WE HAVE BEEN HAND IN HAND WITH THE LINDSEY SCHOOL FROM THE DAY WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND HAD MEETS WITH THEM.

WE'RE STILL HAND IN HAND STEP WITH LINDSEY SCHOOL AND WHOMEVER MIGHT COME ABOUT WITH A NEW RPF OR RFQ PROCESS. THIS IS A BIG ONE WE NEED A LITTLE MORE MOVEMENT FOR THE GRANTS THE HISTORICAL GRANTS. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FROM TALLAHASSEE AND FROM THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT I JUST DIDN'T SEE TOO MUCH MOVEMENT ON IT. THAT'S OKAY.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT TO STOP, HOLD UP, RESET, AND START OVER. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.

>> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE BUILDING IS ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER AND I AM SURE THAT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF UPKEEP I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE RULES ARE. BUT I KNOW WE CAN'T -- NOT THAT I'MING YOU SUGGESTING IT BUT WE CAN'T TEAR IT DOWN, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRY.

>>. >> WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY

INVESTED IN IT RIGHT NOW. >> RIGHT.

>> WINDOWS AND ROOF NUMBER ONE.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER GAINES YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD IS THERE A MOTION?

>> YOU NEED A VOTE ON THIS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE APPROVAL OR MOTION OF APPROVAL FOR THIS TERMINATION. THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION. THEN WE CONTINUE ON WE'RE SEEKING HOPEFULLY A NEW DEVELOPMENT PARTNER.

>> MAYOR ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE BEFORE THIS MOTION.

MR. MIMS DID YOU INVITE THE SCHOOL HERE TONIGHT.

>> YES, I TOLD THEM THIS WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA.

I SAID THEY WERE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CONTACT YOU BEFORE THE MEETING AND COME TO THIS MEETING.

JUST TALK ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS THUS FAR.

>> THANK YOU. >> MADAM MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TERMINATION OF THE

AGREEMENT. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[8. STAFF COMMENTS]

COMMENTS. >> MR. MIMS.

>> YES. I HAVE A QUESTION.

SINCE WE JUST WENT THROUGH AND DID THE TERMINATION NOW WE BACK IN 2018, 2019 WE DID A VERY, VERY BASIC R.F.P.

DOCUMENT. SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE STEPPED UP OUR GAME AND THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, HAVE OCCURRED. WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL PLANS IF WE HAVE TO CONSIDER LIKE THE CRA UPDATE PLAN THE RETAIL MARKET STUDY AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

SO I WILL VERY MUCH LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH UPDATING THE R.F.P. COUPLES THEN BRINGING THAT TO YOU WITHIN 30 TO 60 DAYS FOR YOUR REVIEW.

IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT WE WILL LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE HOPEFULLY THE SOLICITATION OF A COMMUNITY PARTNER TO GET THIS DONE, GET THIS REDEVELOPED AND CREATE AN ACTIVITY GENERATOR FOR THE

AREA. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. DO HAVE YOU ANY PROBLEM WITH

THAT? >> SOUNDS GOOD.

R.F.P. WOULD GO OUT. >> UNLESS WE GET UNSOLICITED

PROPOSAL. >> I WOULD UPDATE IT AND BRING IT TO US. DEFINITELY WE NEED TO UPDATE

THAT DOCUMENT. >> JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR THE R.F.P. WE ARE SETTING A VISION FOR WHAT OR JUST ASK

FOR A BLANK IT R.F.P.. >> WAS KIND OF OPEN-ENDED

WASN'T IT? >> BEFORE WE DID NOT HAVE A CRA PLAN UPDATE. NOW WE HAVE A CRA PLAN UPDATE AND THAT PLAN UPDATE INCLUDES SOME MODEL BLOCK DEVELOPMENT, CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT GIVES THAT VISION. ALSO WITH OUR RETAIL STUDY

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>> OKAY. THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE IN THE R.F.P. ABSOLUTELY.

>> IT'S NOT IN THAT STUDY AREA THAT WE APPROVED EARLIER. WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES HERE. JUST KIDDING, JUST KIDDING.

[LAUGHTER] >> I READ SOMETHING AND I SAW SOMETHING HE TO ASK THE QUESTION.

>> THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I LIKE FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER TO COME UP WE WILL TALK REAL QUICK ABOUT A LIEN REDUCTION INFELL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM -- INFIELD RESIDENTIAL

DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. >> SHE'LL CLEAR IT UP.

>> MAKE THAT INTO -- WE HAD A DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE LIEN REDUCTION REQUESTS THAT CAME BEFORE YOU. THIS IS JUST THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT DISCUSSION AS TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS

PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU.

>> MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THIS IS HOT OFF THE PRESS FROM THE LAST NIGHT'S DISCUSSION. BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD AT THIS FOR SOME TIME. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS PROGRAM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOUPING SOME INVESTMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY ENTICING THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO, THE INFILL LIEN PRODUCTION PROGRAM IS BEENED OF VACANT INFILL PROPERTY BY PROVIDING A PROPERTY OWNER REASONABLE RELIEF FROM BURDENSOME ACCUMULATED INTEREST AND LIENS LEVIED PRIOR TO THEIR OWNERSHIP.

SO IN LOOKING AT ELIGIBLITY REQUIREMENTS, WE NEED THE OWNER, THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO APPLY AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR LIEN REDUCTION FOR LIENS WERE LEVIED PRIOR TO THEIR OWNERSHIP.

IF THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE LIENS THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE THIS PROGRAM.

IF THEY HAD LIENS FROM PRIOR OWNERSHIP IN ADDITION TO LIENS THAT THEY'VE ACCUMULATED UNDER THEIR CURRENT OWNERSHIP THEY HAVE TO PAY WHATEVER THEY ACCUMULATED WITH THEIR OWNERSHIP.

THAT'S A NEW KIND OF REIMAGINED APPROACH TO THIS PROGRAM. THEY ALSO CAN'T BE RELATED TO THE PRIOR OWNER OR IN BUSINESS WITH THE PRIOR OWNER BECAUSE WE CAN TOTALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING OH I WILL HAND IT OVER TO YOU AND GET ALL THESE LIENS REDUCED AND MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS HARD TO SEE WITH OUR NEW BRANDING COLORS. THE PROPERTY CANNOT HAVE ANY ACTIVE CODE CASES. YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT THAT GO THROUGH WHATEVER PROGRAM WE DON'T WANT ANY ACTIVE CODE CASES. THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NOT TO ALLEVIATE ALL OF YOUR LIENS THAT YOU ARE ACCUMULATING.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR EXISTING LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THIS PROGRAM.

SO HERE'S THE PROCESS. WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THIS IS MIRRORED AFTER AN EXISTING PROGRAM THROUGH THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG.

WE DON'T LIKE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WHAT WORKS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. I'VE SPOKEN TO THESE FOLKS THAT DEAL WITH THIS PROGRAM OVER THERE THEY'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS. HERE'S HOW IT GOES IN SUMMARY. THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE A STANDARDIZED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY CREATED AND IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WE'RE GOING BRING THAT TO YOU AS A CITY COMMISSION BUT THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.

THAT'S STANDARDIZED OVERVIEW AGREEMENT WE FILL IN ALL THE BLANKS THEN WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU AS THE CITY COMMISSION. THEN SO THE HARD COSTS, WE HAVE SEPARATED THE HARD COSTS WITH ANY WORK THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO. THAT WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND MOW OR DEMO THEN SOFT COSTS WHICH ARE YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, INTEREST, ALL THAT.

WE WILL REQUIRE THAT ALL OF THE HARD COSTS BE PAID IN FULL AT THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.

YOUR BUILDING PERMIT FOR YOUR NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME DUPLEX, WHATEVER RESIDENTIAL YOUR BUILDING YOU ARE PAYING THOSE HARD COSTS. THAT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE 365 DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE AGREEMENT.

ONCE WE GET THOSE HARD COSTS WE WILL RELEASE YOUR LIEN.

SO WE ARE GOING INTO THIS WITH GOOD FAITH WE HAVE THIS EXISTING AGREEMENT. WE ARE RELEASING THE REST OF YOUR LEANS WHICH ARE THOSE SOFT COSTS.

YOU WILL BUILD THE HOUSE AND SO YOUR CERTIFICATE WE WILL REFUND YOU HALF OF THE WHAT IS KIND OF LIKE THE TEETH OF THE AGREEMENT THAT'S WHAT WE REMEMBER WORKING FOR THEY

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SO REGARDLESS OF HOWEVER MUCH HARD COSTS WE'LL REFUND YOU HALF BUT NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.

SO, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM.

REALLY THE IDEA IS I MEAN WE LOVE CODE COMPLIANCE CODE HAS A DIFFERENT LENS IN LOOKING AT THIS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THEN REFUNDING 50% OF THAT BACK WE THINK IS KIND OF A GOOD LITTLE CARROT TO DANGLE.

ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THIS IS NOT FOR AN VOTE JUST AN UPDATE. THINK QUL COME BACK WITH

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. >> THEY WOULD COME BACK TO YOU. THE INITIAL PROGRAM IS JUST HEY, HERE'S THE PROGRAM YOU ARE GOING TO ADOPT IT AS A RESOLUTION. EACH INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU AS THE CITY SO.

>> WE HAVE HAD IF YOU ARE NOT THE OWNER.

THIS IS WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. SO THAT WORLD BE THE RESPONSE. THAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSE.

THAT'S A CHANCE THEY HAVE TO TAKE.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

SO I HAVE PROBABLY THREE MAYBE FOUR QUESTIONS.

SO LET'S BACK UP. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY THIS IS COMING TO THE CITY COMMISSION OR FPRA.

>> CITY THIS WILL BE A CITY WIDE INITIATIVE.

SO THE COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REIMBURSED ARE COMING

OUT OF CITY BUDGET OR FPRA. >> THEY'RE PAYING THINK OF IT ALMOST LIKE AN ESCROW ACCOUNT.

SO I'M PAYING YOU $10,000 OF HARD COSTS THAT'S MY MONEY THAT'S IN THIS ACCOUNT AT THE CITY CHEYENE'S MONEY.

CHEYENE IS GETTING $5,000 BACK OF CHEYENE'S MONEY.

>> IF YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO.

>> HOW DOES THAT WORK THIS IS MY OTHER TWO QUESTIONS.

HARD COSTS DEFINITION VERSUS SOFT COSTS DEFINITION.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT

WORLD. >> BUILDING DEPARTMENT --

>> BECAUSE YOU SAID BUILDING PERMIT?

IS THAT INCLUDE THOSE -- >> BUILDING PERMIT IS JUST THE BENCHMARK OF THE TIME FRAME.

>> THAT'S NOT INCLUDING BUILDING FEES.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED THE DEFINITION OF HARD COSTS.

>> SORRY, HARD COSTS THEY ARE DEFINED IN OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THAT'S MONEY THAT THE CITY OR WHOEVER HAD TO EXTEND TO RECTIFY WHATEVER THE NUISANCE IS.

LOT CLEARING BOARDING UP THE WINDOWS.

>> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT.

>> NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS INCENTIVE.

THE BUILDING PERMIT IS JUST THE TIME FRAME.

WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OKAY, LIKE WHY WOULD YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM INSTEAD OF THE OTHER PROGRAM? LIKE OKAY YOU WILL GET INTO THIS AGREEMENT WE'LL GIVE YOU A YEAR TO PAY US YOUR $5,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THAT BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THOSE 12 MONTHS AND OTHERWISE THIS IS ALL NULL AND VOID AND YOU HAVE DEFAULTED. SO THE BUILDING PERMIT IS JUST THE TRIGGER. WE'RE NOT LIKE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING. IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> SO. >> MY OTHER IDEA NOW THAT

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SO IT'S AN IDEA. I MEAN THAT EXPANDS THE PROGRAM. I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY UP THIS WATER RIGHT NOW. BUT WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS AN FPRA TO INVEST WITH THESE FOLKS SO WE GET SOME REAL DEVELOPMENT, SOME NEW PRODUCTION, SOME NEW HOMES ON THE MARKET POTENTIALLY AND MAYBE THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE AFFORDABLE MAYBE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS REVIVED. ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WOULD BE OUR PLEASURE. WHEN WE PRESENTED BACK LAST SUMMER I THINK IT WAS ALL OF THE INCENTIVES FOR THE FPRA WHICH WERE THE COMMERCIAL FACADE UPLIFT WE HAD A $2,500 FLAT RATE GRANT FOR RESIDENTIAL INCENTIVES TO TRY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE YOU KNOW BUILDING PERMIT COSTS AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO. AND I THINK IT'S REALLY CREATIVE. THEY COULD LEVERAGE SOME OF THE CITY INCENTIVIZE WITH THE FPRA INCENTIVIZE AND REALLY MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.

>> WHEN JONAH COMES BACK AND BRINGS OUR FINANCE NEXT TIME WE CAN U.S. PENNIES TO PLAY WITH.

MR. MIMS. >> ALL I WAS GOING BASICALLY SAYS IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADVISED OF RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE BEENING TOO ONE OF THE MOST TELLING FACTS IS THAT 29% OF THE LINCOLN PARK AREA IS VACANT.

29%. THAT IS CAUSING A DEFICIENCY AND THE VALUATION OF THE TAX BASE.

WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT TAX BASE.

SO WE HAVE TO STIMULATE GROWTH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS QUICK, WE KNOW THE TERMS. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WE'RE GOING TO GET COMPLIANCE.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET A HOME. WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE MEASURES THAT WE USE TO STIMULATE GROWTH AND GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD SUSTAINABILITY.

>> YOU MEAN TRULY VACANT WHEN YOU MEAN VACANT.

>> YES, SIR, 29%. >> WHEN YOU SAY LINCOLN PARK

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >> THAT HAS A LOT OF

DEFINITIONS? >> HERE WE GO WITH

BOUNDARIES. >> NORTH OF ORANGE, WEST OF

U.S. 1 AND LET ME SEE. >> EAST OF ANGLE ROAD.

>> YEAH, EAST OF ANGLE ROAD. >> THAT'S IN THE CITY THAT'S JUST IN THE CITY. THAT IS IN THE CITY.

SO YOU ARE GOING TO GET BRIEFED ON THAT WITH THE FLORIDA HOME FINANCE GROUP THEY ARE COMING HERE TO DO INFORMATION IN APRIL THERE'S MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE LAYERED PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO

STIMULATE GROWTH. >> IF I CAN ADD-ON THAT JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE VACANT PROPERTIES.

YOU PASSED THE IMPACT MORATORIUM LAST NIGHT.

I ASK THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO PULL A REPORT OF VACANT RESIDENTIAL AND VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE FPRA. I GOT THE REPORT BACK TODAY THEY ARE AWESOME VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEM.

1468 PROPERTIES WITHIN JUST THE FPRA ARE CONSIDERED VACANT COMMERCIAL OR VACANT RESIDENTIAL BY THE CODE OF PROPERTY APPRAISERS LITTLE 0001 WHATEVER IT IS.

THAT'S TELLING. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP WITH THIS INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS JUST ONE THAT MR. MIMS MENTIONED LAYERED APPROACHES TO THESE INCENTIVES.

A LONG WAY TO GO. >> YEAH.

>> IT'S VERY TELLING. IT'S VERY TELLING.

YOU LIKE DATA DON'T YOU. >> I LOVE DATA.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TOO AS AN OVERLAYER NOT TO RAIN ON THAT WE KNOW IT'S EITHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S HOW IT'S CLASSIFIED.

>> YES. >> I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A STEP FURTHER TO SEE OWNERSHIP SHE WE ARE.

>> BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF WHAT'S OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS, WHAT'S OWNED BY A BANK OR COMMERCIAL ENTITY AND WHAT'S OWNED BY OUR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. BECAUSE I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ALL DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES OWN THOSE PROPERTIES AT THIS POINT THEY ALL HAVE A TRIGGER POINT OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE ON OR CAN'T MOVE ON.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS IS DIFFERENT.

IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE OWNER THESE INCENTIVES SOUND

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AT WHO OWNS WHAT. >> YES.

>> YES. >> JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP TO THE CONVERSATION AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS TO YOU HOPEFULLY MARCH 21ST WITH A RESOLUTION TO AFFIRM THIS POLICY AND THEN WE'LL START MOVING WITH THE APPLICANTS AND WITH THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE PROGRAM. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR STAFF

COMMENTS. >> GREAT.

IS THAT ALL MS. HANDWRITTENAGE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHTY.

MISS COX. >> COMMENTS.

>> MS. EARLY. BOARD COMMENTS.

[9. BOARD COMMENTS]

>> ANY BOARD MEMBERS THAT THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS HIGH

AND HAVE ONE QUICK ONE. >> TO LET STAFF KNOW THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AT ORANGE AND SEVENTH STREET REACHED OUT TO ME IS TALKING TO ME AND I THINK SOME OF YOU ALREADY IN THE CITY KNOW OR THE FPRA MAY KNOW ABOUT THE COMMUNITY FORWARD THAN THEY'RE STARTING ON THE AVENUE A SIDE.

SO THEY'RE STARTING A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A GROUNDBREAKING AT SOME POINT, THEY'RE NOT SURE WHEN.

THEY'RE GOING THROUGH SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HERE IN THE CITY BUT I THOUGHT IT VERY UNIQUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR FPRA HERE WE HAVE A GROUP THAT'S ACTUALLY CREATING A COMMUNITY GARDEN SO FOLKS CAN COME OVER.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL CONCRETE.

>> NOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AVENUE A.

THEY OWN THAT PARCEL CLOSER TO THE FORT PIERCE HOUSING AUTHORITY THE MULTISTORY BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE

OF THAT BUILDING. >> OKAY.

>> SO THERE'S SOME VACANT AREAS THERE.

>> BEHIND THE -- >> I'M NOT SURE THAT'S EXACT LOCATION BUT SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY EXCITING.

I'M TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND THEY HAVE ALREADY ENGAGED THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

THEY ALREADY HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMING OVER TO HELP. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING IT STARTED. SO MAYBE AT SOME POINT THEY WILL REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF FPRA STAFF WHOMEVER IS GOING TO GIVE THEM A HELPING HAND LENDING HAND OR JUST THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THEY'RE NOT LOOKING THEY'RE DOING IT AS A CHURCH AND AS A COMMUNITY TO INVOLVE OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THOUGHT IT VERY UNIQUE AND INTERESTING. GREAT.

>> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >> GOOD.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. LET THEM KNOW ONCE THEY GET THEIR GARDEN GOING WITH A VISIT FROM THE FPUA WATER TREATMENT PLANT THEY GOT SOME NATURAL FERTILIZER.

NATURAL FERTILIZER WHERE THEY CAN GO GET AND USE FOR

THE GARDEN. >> THERE YOU GO.

>> SO THAT CHURCH USED TO HAVE DINNER ON A CERTAIN NIGHT AND MANY OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CAME IT'S KIND OF A FREE LIKE DIFFERENT CHURCHES HAD DIFFERENT NIGHTS THAT THEY -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO THAT OR NOT.

THEY MIGHT HAVE STOPPED WITH THE PANDEMIC.

SO ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. I JUST WANT ROW MIND US ALL OF THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP THIS SATURDAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS WORKING THERE'S A MEANS COURT GROUP WORKING THERE'S A CA MOORE OFFICER THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AND AND SOMESTONIS HAD HIS STUDENTS WILL BE CLEANING UP. COULD WE GET A LISTING OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT IF WE CAN GET A LISTING OF THE OF THE AREA AND WHO IS OUT THERE.

THERE'S SOUTH BEACH BOARD WALK.

SOUTH BEACH WILL BE SPRUCING THAT UP.

AND THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT REASONS YOU WORKING ON THAT. CA MOORE AND THEY SHOULD HAVE WHOEVER IS REGISTERED. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU. IF THAT'S ALL SHALL WE ADJOURN AND LET'S MOVE OUT OF THE CHAMBER

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