Mar 14, 2022 Planning Board

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> BECAUSE THE FORT PIERCE PLANNING BOARD TO ORDER OF MARC.

IT IS 2:00 P.M. RIGHT? AND WHEN YOU STAND WITH US FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE

>>> THANK YOU. IF -- I AM SURE EVERYBODY HAS ONE OF THESE THINGS. IF YOU TURN IT DOWN SO WE CAN HEAR IT OR TURN IT OFF. MY LOOKS LIKE IT IS RINGING OFF THE HOOK. SO I'M GLAD I REMEMBERED TO TUR IT OFF. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>>> MISREAD WAS. >>> HERE.

MR. BURGE PMAP MR. BYRD PS MATT. >>> MR. ALBERT.

>> ESTHER. >>> MS. BAKER, -.

>>> NORMALLY I HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE TALKED ABOUT AND THERE IS S MUCH TO TALK ABOUT THIS PAST MONTH THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

THE ONE THING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD ALL KEEP IN OUR MINDS IS THE SITUATION THAT'S GOING ON I UKRAINE.

IS VERY, VERY, SAD WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING THERE.

IT'S A DEMOCRACY THAT IS BEING CRUSHED.

I DON'T SEE ANY WAY THAT IS GOING TO GET ANY BETTER WITH TH PRESENT HAND TO DO MUCH OF ANYTHING.

OR WE CAN DONATE TO VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THE QUESTION MARK THAT IS TO BE IN ALL OUR HEADS, DOES THAT HELP TO GET TO

THE GROUND WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. >>> PLUS, IT IS ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO DO TO TRY TO HELP, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE.

THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE NEED EVER BIT OF ASSISTANCE THAT THEY CAN GET TO, AND THAT INCLUDES THE ONE THAT WILL MANAGE TO GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY. OF THEIR STRUGGLES ARE BY FAR

[a. Minutes from the February 14, 2022 meeting]

>>> APPROVAL OF MINUTES. >>> SECOND.

>>> WE HAVE A SECOND. FIRST MOTION FROM MR. BURGE, SECOND FROM MS. CLEMENTS PUPPIE CALL ROLL

[a. Conditional Use Approval - Renaissance Business Park - 4100 and 4200 Okeechobee Road ]

AND MR. GILMORE REPRESENTING. >>> YES.

>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.

BEFORE YOU I HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW CERTAIN USES PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FORMER ORANG BLOSSOM MALL, NOW OWNED AND OCCUPIED BY THE CURRENT OWNER, PRIME ROCK ENERGY CAPITOL AS TH RENAISSANCE BUSINESS PARK LOCATED AT 4142 AND 4200 OKEECHOBEE ROAD.

SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH A ZONING OF GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, IT IS APPROXIMATELY 30 AND.28 ACRES GIVE OR TAKE -- 3928 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE.

IN FRONT OF YOU GIVE A COLOR OVERLAY SHOWING SOME OF THE SIT IMPRINTS THEY ARE PROPOSING, SUCH AS LANDSCAPING.

AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING POTENTIAL BUILDINGS I THE OUT PARCEL ON THESE EPIDEMI ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT IS SITTING THERE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SERVICE, MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSE AND FREIGHT, ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION FACILITIES, DAYCARE CENTERS, ADULT OR CHILDREN.

COLLEGES OR UNIVERSITIES, EDUCATION, AND MEDICAL FACILITIES, SOCIAL SERVICE INSTITUTION, SELF-SERVICE STORAGE. BUILDING, MANIFESTED IN SER

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STORAGE. >>> PHASE ONE WILL INCLUDE COMMERCIAL REUSE OF EXISTING BUILDING.

PRIME ROCK IS COMPLETELY RENOVATING THE EXISTING BUSINES CENTRE INTO A WORLD-CLASS BUSINESS PARK, WHICH WILL INCLUDE FLEX SPACE, SOCIAL SERVICE, EDUCATION, SMALL BUSINESSES WHO NEED OFFICES, WORKSHOPS AND WAREHOUSE.

THE FAÇADE, ENTRANCES, LANDSCAPING, ROOFING AND FULL INTERIORS ARE CURRENTLY BEING RENOVATED.

THE STREETSCAPE IS BEING UPGRADED AND MAINTAIN THE SIGNS LANDSCAPED AREAS AND OVERALL APPEAL.

THE ENTIRE SITE WILL BE UPGRADE TO PROVIDE A FIRST-CLASS CAMPUS FEEL MONGO THE APPLICANT PROVIDED HOT COPIES OF THE FIRS WOMEN TO THE DECLARATION. HOWEVER, THE FOLLOWING ARE EXAMPLES OF A FEW THE REGIS -- USE RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED IN THE FOREGOING DOCUMENTS: NO OWNER OR TENANT MAY USE THE UNI IN ANY WAY WHICH WOULD CONSTITUTE A LEGAL NUISANCE TO OTHER OWNERS OR TENANTS. BARS SELLING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE FROM PREMISES CONSUMPTION AS IT POSSIBLE VISIT PURPOSE ARE PROHIBITED. ANY USE WHICH IS A STRONG, UNUSUAL, OFFENSIVE, OF NOT MULC -- OR PERFUME, VAPERS OR ANY SOUND WHICH CAN BE HEARD, OR ORDERS SMELLED ALSO THE BUILDIN AND PERMEATES INTO THE OTHER OWNERS PROPERTY IS PROHIBITED.

>>> AND INDUSTRIAL OR MANUFACTURING ACTIVITY THAT USE ANY TOXIC CHEMICALS OR POLLUTANTS AS DEFINED BY ANY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY EXCEPT CHEMICALS FOUND IN COMMON HOUSEHOLD CLEANING SUPPLIES OFFICE PRODUCTS IS PROHIBITED.

ANY DISTILLING, REFINING, SMELTING, AGRICULTURAL OR MININ OPERATION IS PROHIBITED. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE USE RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED IN THE EXISTING DECLARATION DOCUMENTS.

>>> BEFORE YOU YOU HAVE A COLORED ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. STAFF RECURRENT APPROVAL NOTIFICATION WITH FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: NUMBER ONE, SUBJEC CONDITIONAL USE APPROVES ONLY THOSE REQUESTED USES IN THE SUBJECT STAFF REPORT IN SITE PLAN THAT REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL, THOSE PERMITTED B RIGHT THAT REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL. NUMBER 12 CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL IS LIMITED TO SPACE O ONE.

FUTURE PHASES WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE SITE PLAN, DEVELOP AND

DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL. >>> AND NUMBER THREE, A CERTIFIED LETTER OF COMPLETION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT -- ARCHITECT AND, PURSUANT TO CITY SECTION 122.MACK6 SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED FOR THE SITE. THANK YOU.

>>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, MR. GILMORE, BY BO BOARD. MS. BAKER.

>>> I SEE THAT THERE IS SUPPOSE TO BE A MICROBREWERY.

WOULDN'T THAT BE CONTRAINDICATE FOR DISTILLING?

>>> THAT WOULD -- I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

>>> AGAIN, BEING THAT WE HAVE A VERY SMALL ASSOCIATED GROUP HER TODAY, I'M GOING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO CO-PRESENTED WITH

MR. GILMORE. >>> THANK YOU.

LET ME WRITE THE INTRO FIRST BECAUSE I CAN'T WRITE A TALK AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK YOUR QUESTIONS HERE THA MIGHT NEED THE APPLICANT'S INPU TO THE SETTING ASIDE OF THIS

QUESTION. >>> IF YOU DON'T MIND ME JUMPIN

IN AND ANSWERING. >>> PLEASE.

>>> I THINK, TO START WITH, LET ME GIVE A BIT OF CONTEXT BECAUS I THINK THAT WOULD HELP EXPLAIN THE APPLICATION.

CUBIC MAKE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>>> LOU DOBBS WITH THE LAW FIRM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

>>> IT JUST FEELS LIKE HE'S A RESIDENT MEMBER HERE.

>>> SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT IS REDEVELOPING TWO THIRDS OF THE ORANGE BLOSSOM MALL, THEY DON'T OWN THE ENTIRE MALL ACROSS THE WESTERN SECTION OF IT THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD USE TO HAVE IS OWNED BY DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER.

BUT THE ONLY OTHER TWO THIRDS ARE THE MAJORITY OWNER AND CONTROLLING INTEREST IN THE MAL PROPERTY.

WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS THEY WANT TO REDEVELOP THE MALL AS FLEX SPACE FOR DIFFEREN BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND TAKE UNITS AND HAVE YOU KNOWN HER OFFICE AND WAREHOUSING DISTRIBUTION SPACE, AND ALLOW FOR DIFFERENT USES IN THERE.

>>> WHAT THEY FOUND, THOUGH, AS A WAY SIGNING UP TENANTS IS THAT UNDER THE CITIES CODE YOU HAVE CERTAIN ALLOWED USES WHICH ARE PRETTY MUCH STRAIGHTFORWARD ALLOWED USES UNDER THE

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THAT TAKES TIME AND IS DIFFICUL WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO SET UP A TENANT AND BRING THEM IN. SO WE TALK WITH PLANNING, WITH JENNIFER HOFMEISTER ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WAS SHE WHO SUGGESTE THE IDEA OF DOING A NUMBER OF USES.

I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE GENESIS OF THAT IN DISCUSSION BUT WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA THAT WHAT IF WE COME UP WITH A MENU OF ALLOWED USES, APPROVE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONAL USES TOGETHER. AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS IS INTENDED TO ALLOW THESE TYPE OF USES IN PLACES WHERE THEY MAKE SENSE AND WHERE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM FOR NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS OR FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND WE FELT THAT THESE USES COULD WORK HERE.

WE HAVE KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION IN THE MALL, IN THAT IT'S REALLY ISOLATED FROM ITS NEIGHBORS BY THE SEA OF PARKING LOT AROUND IT. IT IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL.

YOU HAVE A LARGE AREA. AND AS DENNIS WAS EXPLAINING IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU ALSO HAVE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY I PLACE IN THE FORM OF THE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS, WHICH ONLY ALLOWS CERTAIN TYPES OF USES AND HAD PROVISIONS IN IT ALREADY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE UNIT OWNERS IN THEIR CAN LIVE HARMONIOUSLY AND NOT AFFEC EACH OTHER.

THAT IS WHAT IS INTENDED HERE. >>> IN TERMS OF SPECIFICALLY YOUR QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO A BREWERY, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE CURRENTLY PLANNED. IT WAS JUST THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE LIST. AM I CORRECT, MIKE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A BREWERY TENANT LINED UP RIGHT NOW? ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE LIST THAT WE LISTED DOWN LIKE OKAY, THESE ARE POTENTIAL CONDITIONAL USES THAT WE BELIEVE COULD GO IN THERE WITH, AS I'VE EXPLAINED WITH THOSE VARIOUS PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE, WOULD NOT A -- NEGATIVELY AFFECT OTHER PROPERT OWNERS.

>>> ANYTHING ELSE, MS. BAKER? >>> OKAY.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'R SAYING ABOUT IT NOT BEING CURRENT OR SEEKING TO BE IN THA CURRENT LOCATION.

BUT IF IT IS ARRAYED IN THE COMMITTMENT THAT YOU CAN HENDERSON, HOW CAN YOU HAVE THA THIS IS ONE OF YOUR CONDITIONAL

USES? >>> RIGHT.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >>> AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENTER

ANSWER? >>> ACTUALLY I DON'T COME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO WHAT IS THAT USE, MICROBREWERY AS ONE OF THE USES THAT IS ON THE CONDITIONAL USE LIST. I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS IT' A USE THAT, EVEN IF IT IS ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE BECAUSE IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING OUR OTHER OWNERS WITHIN THE PROPERTY THAT ARE GOVERNED BY THE DECLARATION SIGN OFF ON IT.

SO, LET'S SEE. ANY BOARD OR SIMILAR ESTABLISHMENT WHICH SELLS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND DISPERSAL -- IT'S PERSONAL BUSINESS PURPOSE, PROVIDED HOWEVER THIS IS NOT PROHIBIT A RESTAURANT, HOTEL, OR INDOOR ACTIVITY.

OKAY, SO THAT'S ALLOWED. WE CAN COMMIT OFFENSIVE ODORS.

ANY DISTILLING, REFINING, MININ OR SMELTING OPERATION.

DISTILLING. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A MICROBREWERY WITHOUT DISTILLING.

>>> THAT CAN BE DISTILLING. YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PROHIBITED UNDER TH COVENANTS.

>>> WANT TO JUST REMOVE IT? >>> NO, EFFORT TO LEAVE IT AS A ALLOWED USE, BECAUSE -- SO THEY WILL BE KNOWN TO HURT US TO A MICROBREWERY. CONDITIONAL USE WILL BE THE ONE.

THE SECOND WILL BE THE COMMITTMENT HERE.

AND SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF OUR OTHER OWNER IN THE WEST END OF IT AND SOMETHING WE COULD GO TO THE OWNER AND SAY, LOOK, THI IS SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO HERE GOING THERE TO DO A BRE BREWPUB, FOR EXAMPLE.

THEY MIGHT BE ASKED, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BREWPUB, WE JUST DON'T WANT A FULL-BLOWN DISTILLERY IN THEIR.

IT WILL JUST BE A SECOND HURDLE. >>> I DON'T MEAN TO DWELL ON IT

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PROPOSAL. >>> RIGHT.

I THINK PERHAPS WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS HAVE THIS PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. GILMORE. YOUR EXISTING COVENANTS IS STIL ALLOWED. YOU'RE TRYING TO COVER IT IN THIS THIS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEATEDLY COME BACK FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATIONS. I TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY IN THIS CASE. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE ACTIVITY ON THIS SITE AND SOMEONE THAT'S REALLY INTERESTED IN PLAYING THAT EMPTY SPACE THAT'S BEEN NOTHING FOR FAR TOO MANY YEARS.

BUT I THINK THAT IF WE ARE GOIN TO LOOK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THI THIS, I THINK LET ME SPEAK ONTO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND NOT WITH THE APPLICANT. THAT HAS KIND OF MONEY THIS WATER BY ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO BE PRESENTING ALONGSIDE OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. BUT, AGAIN, TO MOVE THIS THROUG TIME HERE, IT JUST SEEMS NATURA AND SOME POINTS.

SO WE MIGHT WANT TO REVISIT T THIS.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU, WE MIGHT WANT TO REVISIT THIS WITH MR MR. GILMORE. SO IS THERE OTHER QUESTIONS?

>>> YES, MR. CHAIR. FIRST, I WOULD COMMENT THAT THI IS A TYPICAL EXAMPLE. IS A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF FUNCTIONAL OBSOLESCENCE OF REAL ESTATE.

AND THE REPRINTING OF THIS PROJECT, I APPLAUD THE DEVELOPING TEAM FOR HAVING THE VISION TO TAKE THIS ON.

BECAUSE THIS IS THE CLASSIC CAS OF PRECISELY THAT, AND THE PROPERTY HAS SET FELLOW FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

LIKE I SAID, A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.

>>> ONE, YOU ARE REFERRING TO THAT -- A CONDOMINIUM,

PROPERTIES AND CONDOS? >>> NO, DECLARATION OF COVE COVENANTS, KIND OF LIKE IN NATURE AND DECLARATION OF COVERAGE BUT IT'S A COMMERCIAL DECLARATION.

>>> OKAY. I KNOW WHEN THE PRIOR APPLICATION CAME IN RELATIVE TO THE WESTERN END OF THE PROPERTY FOR STORES, I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY HAD DONE SOME RATHER EXTENSIVE MITIGATION WORK FOR FLOODING

POTENTIAL. >>> RIGHT.

>>> IS THAT PACKAGE OF IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING WITH THE

BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY? >>> YES THERE WILL BE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS DONE. THERE'S WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE INVOLVING THE DRAINAGE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE TRIANGLE ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

RIGHT, MIKE? >>> CURRENT.

THAT WILL BE -. >>> EXCUSE MAKE A FEW TO COME T THE FRONT AND SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE.

>>> FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS MIK O'NEIL WITH THE APPLICANT PRIME ROCK. STEP UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE, SIG IN, THEN STATE YOUR NAME, IF YO WOULD, FOR THE RECORD.

>>> I DON'T GET THE LEAD UP IN SPECIAL.

HE GETS APHASIA. MICHAEL NEWSHEL I'M WITH PRIME ROCK ENERGY CAPA. WUNDT RAKEEM AND ALL THE BLOOD WORK HE REFERRED TO FOR THEM BY THE POA, BY THE ASSOCIATION.

IT WAS ALL PRIMARY WORK. SO THE DRAINS WERE FIXED.

ONE-WAY VALVES WERE PUT IN, THE BERM WAS RAISED.

A WRITTEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE STATE MAKING SURE THEY KEEP THE FOCUS OF ME, THAT WAS A PROBLEM LAST TIME, I HAVE TO GE FOR ". AND KEEP IT CLEAN. THEY ARE GOING TO CLEAN IT TWIC A YEAR. IN ADDITION TO THAT OUR ABILITY HAS BEEN COMPLETE -- IT IS THE PROOF -- BUT WHAT THEY CALL FLA HARDENED. SO EVERY WALL WAS STRIPPED INSIDE THE BUILDING AND WATERPROOFING ON THE OUTSIDE.

A FLOODGATE GOES ON EVERY SINGL DOOR THAT WE PUT IN AND IS REVIEWED EXTENSIVELY BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THEY LOOK AT EACH ONE A SPECIFI PLAN REVIEW.

AND INSIDE NOTHING THAT CAN THA DESTROYED BY A FLOOD CAN GO BELOW I THINK IS 18 INCHES PARCEL ALL THE DIALOGUE IS REMOVED, SPECIAL PRODUCT GOES IN, NO INSULATION.

IT'S A VERY EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE.

>>> THERE IS A SERIOUS DEFICIENCY OF FLEX SPACE IN THI MARKET CURRENTLY, SO I THINK -- I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET YOU'RE BRINGING A LINE.

BUT YOUR PROPOSED USES I THINK FEEL THAT NEED.

THIS IS SIMPLY A MASSIVE SHORTFALL OF THAT SPACE, THIS TYPE OF SPACE AND THE NEXT APPLICATION THAT'S COMING UP TODAY RUN INTO THE SAME NEED FACTOR.

SO, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT YOUR PROJECT IS WELL-TIMED.

PHENOMENAL REPURPOSING OF THE OBSOLETE PROPERTY BANGO AND I'M

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REGARDING THE DISTILLERY ISSUE, I DO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS THAT THERE SEEM TO BE A CONTRADICTION HERE IN THE LANGUAGE WHICH NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED, CLEARLY.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I KNOW THE CHAIRMAN IS GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT DISCUSSION MOMENTARILY, BUT I DO BELIEVE YOUR PROJECT IS SPOT ON FOR THE MARKET CONDITIONS CURRENTLY.

SO I WISH YOU LUCK WITH IT. YOU HAVE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS WITH EXCEPTIONS ARE THE ONES THAT MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT UP. THANK YOU PS I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS JUST HERE.

IS YOUR FLOOD PROOFING NEED A FEW MORE QUALIFICATIONS?

>>> IT IS. IN THIS REVIEWED BY AN ENGINEER AND REVIEWED BY THE CITY ON EAC ONE.

YES, EVERY ONE OF THEM IS. >>> ANY OTHER QUESTION

RESPONSES]. >>> OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR MR. DOBBS? VERY MUCH, SIR. WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO MR.

>>> THANK YOU. >>> MR. GILMORE -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE SHUFFLE IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND WHERE WE'VE GOT OUR DIRECTOR WORKING FROM HOME.

AND I THINK SHE WAS OPPOSED TO SUPPOSED TO PRESENT THIS

MATERIAL. >>> RIGHT.

>>> SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH FINGERPRINTS ON THIS PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE QUESTION CONCERNING THE BREWERY OR DISTILLERY. BUT LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO

WITH IT. >>> MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE DECLARATION.

THAT WAY THE OWNER COULD ALWAYS JUST REFUSED TO ALLOW THAT TENANT TO LEASE SPACE. SO I THINK THAT'S THE SAFER WAY BECAUSE THE DECLARATION IS THE MASS WAS BEING PRESENTED HERE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE IS BEING PRINTED TO PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION.

>>> IS GOING TO GO BACK TO THE LANGUAGE ON THE SCREEN.

>>> WOULD I BE ABLE TO INTERJEC FOR A SECOND?

I KNOW I'M GOING OUT OF ORDER. >>> I WILL LET YOU.

>>> THANK YOU. >>> WE LIKE YOU.

>>> WE CAN'T REALLY REMOVE IT FROM THE DECLARATION BECAUSE TH DECLARATION YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY CHANGE DECLARATION BUT IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT IS A DOCUMENT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN OUR LANDOWNER AND THE OWNER OF THE SCHOOL PARCEL.

IT TOOK QUITE A NUMBER OF MONTH TO DO THAT.

IF WE WANTED TO RESOLVE THE INCONSISTENCY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE CONDITIONAL USE.

>>> KEEP IT AS A CONDITIONAL U USE.

>>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO THAT INCONSISTENCY OR ANY OTHER INCONSISTENCY, THESE ARE REALLY KNOWN TO DIFFERENT LEVELS OF REGULATION.

YOU HAVE THE CITIES CONDITIONAL USE REGULATION WHICH SAYS CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO, THEN YOU HAVE A DECLARATION OF COVENANTS WHIC SAYS CERTAIN THINGS WHICH WE CA AND CANNOT DO. YOU ALSO CORRECTLY RAISE THE ISSUE OF WHEN YOU HAVE A SCHOOL AND YOU HAVE A BREWPUB OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, AND THAT INTENSITY, AND YOU GET INT A STATE REGULATION. ALLOWED DISTANCES BETWEEN A SCHOOL OR DAY CARE, EDUCATIONAL FACILITY AND A BREWPUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER LAYER TO SOAK MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LEAVE IT IN THE CONDITIONAL USE IS SOMETHING WE ARE GETTING REGULATED.

BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THOSE OTHER LEVELS.

RIGHT NOW WE COULDN'T COME IN AND DO A BREWPUB AS YOU POINTED OUT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE OTHER OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND EITHER AMEND THE DECLARATION, O GET A WAIVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, AGAIN, IF YOU FEEL YOU WAN TO RESOLVE THE INCONSISTENCY AN PREFER TO REMOVE IT, WE WOULD B OKAY WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE DON' HAVE ONE LINED UP TO GO IN THER ANYWAY.

>>> WE TOO HAVE CODE ORDINANCES REGARDING DISTANCES.

AND IF WE DO THAT IN THIS CONDITIONAL USE, THEN THAT ILLUMINATES THE CITY TO ABLE TO APPLY ANY OF THOSE ORDINANCES A THIS ADDRESS. SO I AM MORE INCLINED TO THINK THAT WE SHOULD REMOVE THE LANGUAGE FROM THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION AND JUST CLEAN THE APPLICATION.

YOU CAN BRING IT UP AGAIN IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION IF YOU CHOOSE TO TO SEE IF THEY WILL PUT IT BACK IN.

BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY BE MORE INCLINED TO WANT TO REMOVE IT.

BUT I'M GOOD LUCK MY BOARD BEAT THIS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

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I WAS TRYING TO SAVE YOU. >>> I THINK THIS IS VERY SIMPLE THAT IT IS IRRELEVANT TO US WHA THEIR DECLARATION STATES.

YOU KNOW THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS MODEL THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON.

THE CONTROL POINT NEEDS TO BE REMOVING IT FROM THE CONDITIONA USES. SO CONDITIONAL USES REQUESTED A COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CONDITIONAL USE, AND SATISFIES.

THE OFFICE'S SEEMING INCENTIVE STRUCTURES -- SINCE I PREFER THEM SO IT SEEMS TO ME IT IS WORKABLE PS ARE YOU TWO LADIES

SATISFIED WITH THAT? >>> IM PS I AM, YEAH.

>>> ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL RUN T THE NEXT DISCUSSION.

ANY FURTHER?

>>> NONE, THANK YOU. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE THAT'S INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.

PLEASE STEP FORWARD. NOT SEEING ANYONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, COME BACK WITH ANY FURTHER CAMS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS.

>>> I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN HE INDICATED THAT THE CITY COMMISSION RECENTLY REDUCED THOSE DISTANCES BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND DISTILLING FACILITIES FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD OR RETAIL ET CETERA. AND YOU SUGGESTION TO STRIKE YO THAT PARTICULAR FISHERIES WOULD SUBSEQUENTLY REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL SINGLE FOR THAT TYPE OF USE TO COME BACK TO PLANNING BOARD AND COME BACK TO CITY COMMISSION.

>>> THAT WOULD BE THE CASE IF W REMOVED IT FROM THE OCCASIONAL

USE. >>> I'M GOOD.

>>> OKAY, SO WHEN WE ARE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION WE NEED TO BE CERTAIN TO INCLUDE THAT.

>>> I MOVE APPROVAL WITH REMOVA OF THE MICROBREWERY AS A

CONDITIONAL USE. >>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS MS. BAKER TO REMOVE THE LANGUAG CONCERNING THE DISTI DISTILLERY-MICROBREWERY.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. MR. BRAC.

P CAN WE GO BACK TO INITIAL U USES? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THIS TARGETED SPECIFICALLY.

>>> MICROBREWERY, RIGHT DOWN THERE.

>>> OKAY, SO THAT JUST GETS STRUCK THROUGH, DENNIS, IS THAT

CORRECT? >>> YES.

>>> OKAY PETER CALLED THE ROLE PLEASE.

I HOPE THAT WASN'T TOO PAINFUL. >>> LEE HAS BEEN THROUGH WORSE

[b. Site Plan - Kieran Casey Warehouse and Office Building - 3621 US Highway 1 ]

HERE. >>> AS HE HAS.

>>> NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA I ITEM B, SITE PLAN FOR THE KINKY SEAT WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE BUILDING AT 3021 US ONE.

>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.

IF WE IS A SITE PLAN AND DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT A 10,300 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON A 15 -- 1158 ACRE PARCEL OF LAND ON THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS AT THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF SOUTH MARKET AVENUE AND SOUTH US HIGHWAY ONE AND IS APPROXIMATEL 151 ACRES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND A ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL C THREE ZONING.

>>> BEFORE YOU IS A COLORED OVERLAY SHOWING THE SITE AND PERMITS INCLUDING THE LANDSCAPING, PARKING, STALLS, DRIVEWAY AISLES, AND SIDEWALK CONNECTION.

APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FLEX USE STRUCTURE, AS YOU CAN SEE.

BEFORE YOU YOU HAVE THE NORTHER ELEVATION IN THE EASTERN ELEVATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS.

THE APPLICANT IS ADHERING TO AL THE C-3 ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS INCLUDING THE REQUIRED PARKING WHICH IS ONLY TWO PLACES -- TWO SPACES. APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 53.

THE REASON FOR THE INFLUX OF PARKING IS TO PROVIDE FOR THE POTENTIAL OF A MORE INTENSE USE SUCH AS A RESTAURANT.

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>>> STAFF RECORDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED APPLICATION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: NUMBER ONE, PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 123-CITY SIX D, TREE PROTECTION AND MITIGATION.

FINAL TREE MITIGATION PLAN SHOULD BE PROVIDED THAT SHALL B APPROVED BY STAFF PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT.

NUMBER TWO, A CERTIFIED LETTER OF COMPLETION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND ESCAPE OWNED PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 123-6 SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED FOR THE SITE.

THANK YOU. >>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR BOAR

OF MR. GILMORE? >>> MR. GILMORE, PREVIOUSLY WHE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE APPLICATIONS FOR STORAGE FACILITIES WE WERE INFORMED THA PORT ST. LUCIE HAS A PROHIBITIO AGAINST STORAGE FACILITIES AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO B BUILT ANYMORE. DOES THAT INCLUDE SOMETHING LIK THIS? IS THAT ALSO PROHIBITED IN PORT

ST. LUCIE? >>> FLEX SPACE?

>>> YEAH. >>> FLEX SPACE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT IS GOING TO BE STORAGE.

ANY USE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD THEN REVIEW IT AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET A CONDITIONAL USE OR WHETHER IT IS A INITIATIVE REVIEW OR SITE PLAN REVIEW. THAT'S WHEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK A THE REQUIRED PARKING THAT THE USE WILL NEED.

THEY ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THEY ARE DOING STORAGE.

THIS IS SIMPLY LIGHT -. >>> NOT MY QUESTION, MR. G MR. GILMORE. I WAS TRYING TO ASK, DOES PORT ST. LUCIE ALSO, BESIDES NOT HAVING NO NEW STORAGE FACILITIE ALLOWED, ARE THEY ALSO ALLOWING HAVING A BAN ON -.

>>> FLEX -- NO, THIS IS THAT. >>> I MISS UNDERSTOOD TO HAVE FORT PIERCE BECOME THE STORAGE CAPITOL OF THE WORLD.

>>> THIS SPACE WOULDN'T BE CONSTITUTED AS STORAGE.

THIS IS INDUSTRIAL USE FOR SMAL BUSINESS OPERATORS.

AND THERE IS AGAIN A MASSIVE SHORTFALL IN THE MARKET FOR THI TYPE OF SPACE AS WELL. SO THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE RELEASED BEFORE YOU GET A SHOVE IN THE GROUND, I THINK.

IT IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN SELF STORAGE IN THE ENTIRETY.

IT IS MEANT FOR AC COMPANY, ELECTRICIANS, PLUMBERS, AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE TO OPERAT THEIR BUSINESSES.

I'M ASSUMING THAT IS YOUR TARGE MARKET FOR THIS.

AND, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S AN EXTREME/SHORTAGE IN FORT PIERCE ON THE CYBERSPACE. SO IT IS SIMPLY A DIFFERENT -- IT'S ALL BRICKS AND MORTAR WHEN THE DAY IS DONE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR USE IS DIFFERENT THA SELF STORAGE.

>>> THANK YOU. >>> QUESTION? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND I WOULD LIKE TH APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PS AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND PLANNIN BOARD MEMBER, MY NAME IS MARK LANDSMAN WITH ENGINEERING DESIG CONSTRUCTION. I'M REVISITING OUR CLIENT KIERA CASEY AND I CAN ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OFF THE

PROJECT. >>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

APPLICANT? >>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO START

CONSTRUCTION? >>> SOON AS ALL PERMITS ARE IN

THE HAND. >>> WE DO A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN TOWN IN A NO MARKET CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW ARE BRUTAL.

THERE IS JUST SOMETHING AROUND. SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT HERE. CONGRATULATIONS.

>>> I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS COMING IN.

RICHTER SAID CONCERNING THE NEE FOR THIS TYPE OF SPACE.

I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT PARTICULAR LOT BEING BUILT ON AND HOPEFULLY INSERT TO GENERAT MORE INTEREST ALONG THAT CORRIDOR WITH GOOD CLEAN LOOKIN BUILDINGS LIKE YOU ARE PRESENTING. INTERESTING BECAUSE NOT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS BUT THE MARKETING DISHES NOW MUST HAVE MATURED ENOUGH THAT WE GET A PROPER RETURN BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN NO INDUSTRIAL SPACE EXCEPT HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET AT A TIME FOR DISTRIBUTION CENTERS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND REGARDING LOCAL TYPE USES. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, AND THAT IS GOOD TO SEE BECAUSE IT IS THAT HAPPENED IN FORT PIERCE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. NOR PORT ST. LUCIE.

IS VERY MATURE SPACE IN BOTH OF THESE MARKETS.

>>> SINGH MR. CASEY, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR SUPERVISION WITH YOU TODAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.

>>> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. >>> ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THI PROJECT?

>>> NOT SEEING ANYONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEAN, COME BACK TO MR. GILMORE. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

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>>> NOT HEARING ANY ISLANDS EMOTION.

APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

>>> SECOND. >>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR MR. BURGE, SECOND BY MR MR. BRODERICK.

CALL ROLL PLEASE.

>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WELCOM TO FORT PIERCE.

>>> COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT?

[8. DIRECTOR'S REPORT]

>>> OUR DIRECTOR HAS BEEN AT HOME.

SHE HAS HAD A MINOR FAMILY ISSU THAT SHE HAD BEEN DEALING WITH THIS WEEK, AND WE HOPE TO SEE HER BACK NEXT WEEK.

SHE HAD BEEN WORKING FROM HOME A.

IT IS NOT AS THOUGH SHE'S NOT BEEN ACTIVE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAV AVAILABLE TO US TODAY I DON'T GUESS MANY OF US CAN EVER TAKE BREAK. MY COMMENTS ARE TWO, ACTUALLY.

[9. BOARD COMMENTS]

AND I DIDN'T REALIZE I FAILED T ELISCHER UNTIL I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED THE MEETING. BUT I WENT RIGHT ON BY FOR MS MS. JOHNSON'S GOT. AND SHE CAME TO THIS BOARD TH THREE! ALICIA?

THREE YEARS AGO? >>> CAN'T TELL YOU FOR SURE.

>>> GOES BY WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN, DOESN'T IT.

>>> SHE CAME TO US AND SHE WA RATHER TIMID WHEN SHE FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD. DIDN'T SAY VERY MUCH, LIKE A COUPLE OF OUR PRESENT MEMBERS. BUT ONCE SHE GOT SEATED IN WHEN SHE BECAME VERY THOUGHTFUL. SHE NEVER SHOWED UP -- IT ALWAY AMAZED ME. SHE WOULD SHOW UP WITH HER PACKET OF INFORMATION, IN THIS CASE BACK WHEN WE WERE PRINTING PACKETS, AND WE WOULD COME INTO THE CITY HALL AND PICK UP TONS AND TONS OF REAMS OF PAPER. BUT SHE WOULD OPEN UP EACH PACKET SITTING HERE, AND SHE WOULD HAVE NOTES ALL OVER THEM, AND HIGHLIGHTED ALL OVER IT, LIKE SHE WAS READY TO COME IN HERE AND HUNT FOR BEAR. BUT THEN SHE'D SIT BACK QUIETLY AND LET EVERYBODY ELSE ASK THEI QUESTIONS.

AND AS EVERYBODY WAS ASKING QUESTIONS, AND GIVE A GLANCE OVER AND SHE WILL BE RIDING A LITTLE NOTE NEXT SOMETHING THAT SHE HAD ALREADY PROBABLY WRITTE A NOTE NEXT TO.

AND IF ALL HER QUESTIONS MORE INTACT, OR SHE DIDN'T THINK THA SHE GOT THE ANSWER TO A QUESTIO THAT SHE MIGHT HAVE HAD, THAT MR. EDWARD, YOU MIGHT HAVE AS ASKED, SHE WOULD LEAN UP TO THE MIC A LITTLE BIT, NOT GET TOO CLOSE, AND ALMOST IN HER LITTLE WHISPERING VOICE, BRING UP HER QUESTION, OR MAKE HER STATEMENT ABOUT HER PERSONAL FEELING WAS ON THAT PROJECT.

AND, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S TIMES LIK THAT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN MS MS. JOHNSON'S GOT WOULD ASK AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, OR MAKE A STATEMENT IN THAT LITTLE QUIET VOICE THAT SHE HAD, AND WE WIND UP WITH SIX MORE QUESTIONS COME OUT OF THE REST OF THE BOARD.

BUT SHE WAS ALWAYS VERY THOUGHTFUL, VERY PATIENT.

JUST A TOTAL LADY. AND I THINK IF WE LOOK UP THE WORD HOPEFUL LADY", IN THE DICTIONARY, WE WOULD PROBABLY FIND IN THE SIDE MARKERS, "M "MS. JAXON SCOTT", WRITTEN NEXT TO IT. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIM THAT YOU SPENT ON THIS BOARD WHEN COMMISSIONER ALEXANDRA PASSED AWAY, SPACE JOHNSON SCOT CAME TO US AND FELT THAT PERHAP SHE SHOULD PERHAPS RESIGN FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE SHE WAS APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER ALEXANDRA.

AND HER ORDINANCE IS SUCH THAT THAT WAS NOT NECESSARY.

AND SHE WASN'T SURE. SHE FELT LIKE MORALLY THAT'S WHAT SHE SHOULD BE DOING. I TALKED HER OUT OF LEAVING US, AND SHE STAYED ON RIGHT UP UNTI THE TIME THAT MR. EDWARDS WAS APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER GA GAINES, WHO WAS REPLACED BY COMMISSIONER ALEXANDRA. BUT SHE DID A VERY GOOD JOB FOR US. I APPRECIATE HER.

AND, MS. JOHNSON SCOTT, I HOPE YOU ARE WATCHING OUR MEETING TODAY, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUC FOR THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT ON THE BOARD AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU CONTRIBUTED.

IT WAS VERY GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

>>> THE OTHER COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT WE WERE BRIEFLY A COUPLE OF US THIS AFTERNOON WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE, PICKED

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AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, ONE OF THE ITEMS DISCUSSED, WAS THE ST SHORT-TERM RIFLES. PORTLET THROUGH AS MUCH PAIN AS THE COMMISSIONER DID FOR SEVERA YEARS WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH OUR BROKEN AT THE TIME ORDINANCES.

AND IT WAS REALLY TRYING AND STRESSFUL I THINK FOR ALL OF US.

AND THROUGH THAT EFFORT REQUESTED A COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED, WHICH IT WAS. IT WASN'T CALLED A COMMITTEE, I WAS CALLED A TASK FORCE. FROM THIS BOARD I ASKED BOARD MEMBER BRODERICK TO HEAD UP THE EFFORT IN THAT TASK FORCE REPRESENTING THIS BOARD AND DID THAT.

I THINK YOU WOUND UP AS THE CHAIR.

>>> YEAH. >>> AND SPENT MANY, MANY, PAINFUL HOURS. AND I APPRECIATE THE TASK FORCE AND ALL THE PERSONNEL ON THAT TASK FORCE THAT WAS INVOLVED, SPENT A LOT OF HOURS WORKING ON RESTRUCTURING HOW THE CITY APPROACHED VACATION RENTALS AND THE PRESENT ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN, ADOPTED BY THIS EVENTUALLY ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION. AND THERE WAS A REPORT GIVEN THIS MORNING. AND THAT EVERYTHING IS PERFECT IN THIS WORLD. AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE NOT GOTTE TO THE PERFECT SITUATION IN FOR PIERCE CONCERNING VACATION RENTALS. THIRD STILL A LOT OF WORK ON TH STREET THAT'S BEING DONE. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE HAVE 307 ADVERTISE UNITS. AND I THINK THAT MEANS THAT THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT ARE ADVERTISING ON SITES SUCH AS AI B&B AND OTHERS THAT ARE NOT AS POPULAR PERHAPS.

AND WE HAVE 271 REGISTERED UNIT THROUGH THE CITY.

AND THAT'S AN 80 PERCENT -- 8 80 PERCENT RESERVATION OF THE UNITS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS VACATION RENTALS.

NOW, THERE ARE OTHER UNITS OUT THERE THAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE VACATION RENTALS. BUT UNTIL, LIKE EVERYTHING IN LAW, UNTIL YOU GET THE PROPER IDENTIFICATION, AND YOU KNOW FO CERTAIN WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT THAT'S WHAT IS BEING DONE, THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

BUT AS THE WORK THAT'S BEING COMPLETED TO IDENTIFY THOSE UNITS, THEY ARE BEING NOTIFIED AND THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO RESPOND TO THE ORDINANCE. AND IS SO STATED FROM GOING OUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND -- AND I DON' HAVE THE WHOLE PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF ME -- AND THEY STATED, JUST AS THIS DATA HAS BEEN GOIN ON, WE'VE GOT A GOOD RESPONSE FROM MOST OF THE UNITS THAT WER OPERATING OUTSIDE OF OUR ORDINANCE.

SO AND WE ARE EXPECTED MORE TO COME.

>>> A THIRD PARTY WAS HIRED T MANAGE THIS EFFORT, AND THEY BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR I VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESPONSE THAT SHE'S GETTING.

THE REPORTING AND MATERIAL THAT SHE'S GETTING, SHE SEEMED TO BE VERY HAPPY WITH IT. SO ALL OF OUR WORK IS A BOARD THAT WENT INTO VACATION RENTALS ALL OF THE WORK FROM THE TASK FORCE, ALL THE WORK FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE FINALLY HAVE GOT TO SOMETHING THAT IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS WORKING. AND WE ARE NOT HAVING TO BE HER -- HERE FIVE CASES OF VACATION RENTALS EVERY MEETING, WHICH IS

A GOOD THING. >>> SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, YOUR EFFORTS ARE WORKING.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE IN DETAIL ON THIS ITEM CAN GO BACK AND REVIEW THE MEETING FROM THI MORNING, THE COMMISSION AGENDA MEETING THIS MORNING, AND I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASED WITH

WHAT YOU SEE AS WELL. >>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY

COMMENTS? >>> MR. CHAIR, A COUPLE THINGS: ONE, IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE ON THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL SCENARIO THE PROJECTIONS THAT THE TASK FORCE HAD OPERATED

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AND ONE OF THE FIRST OF THAT MEETING -- THRUSTS OF THAT MEETING WAS WE ARE ENGAGING OR SUGGESTING THE CITY COMMISSION ENGAGED WITH A COMPANY TO BE DETERMINED TO INSTALL CHARGING STATIONS THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN, AND BEACH, AND ALL OVER THE C CITY, TO TRY TO MODERNIZE THE EASY AVAILABILITY FOR CHARGING, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.

>>> THE QUESTION CAME UP AT THAT MEETING, AND I SAID IT WOULD BRING IT UP AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, IS DO YOU SEE IN THE FUTURE, OR IS THERE AN INITIATIVE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OR ANY DEPARTMENT RELATIVE TO REQUIRIN POTENTIAL NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THEIR PARKING MIX TO INSTALL EV CHARGING STATIONS AS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY SIMILAR TO LIKE WAWA HAS THEM, WHICH IS A B-BASIN AREA.

THE CITY ALSO WILL CONTEMPLATE FEE-BASED SCENARIO.

IS ANY DIRECTION ON THEM FROM PLANNING THAT THIS COULD BECOME MORE OF A PROTOTYPE THING, OR REQUIREMENT, DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD REQUIRE BIKE RACKS, WOULD REQUIRE HANDICAP PARKING, YOU

KNOW, X-Y AND Z? >>> CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. WE DO ENCOURAGE THE EV PARKING.

I WILL SAY THAT THE ST. LOUIS - THE PTO IS ENCOURAGING THE PRINCIPALITIES AND JURISDICTION TO ENCOURAGE THAT PARLANCE ON THE BOX -- B PACK COMMITTEE SO THEY WERE JUST TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO ADD THA TO THEIR SITE PLAN.

>>> I'M JUST CURIOUS IF TRAININ CAN INCORPORATE THIS IS A REQUIREMENT IN SOME CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE.

I'M NOT SAYING NEXT WEEK, BUT I WE COULD GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE A VER STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE CITY IF WE COULD GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT AND REALLY BE A LEADER IN THIS AREA. BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A HIG DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF USE RIGHT NOW.

AND THE FEW STATIONS ARE LOCATE AROUND NOW ARE PRETTY HEAVILY UTILIZED. I KNOW WE REQUESTED SOME ANALYSIS INFORMATION FROM THE CITY REGARDING THE ONES IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE ONE THAT'S IN THE AMENITY CENTER.

ACCESS IS VERY LIMITED AT THIS POINT, BUT COULD BECOME NOT SO LIMITED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. I THINK IN THE PARTICIPANT WORD -- WORLD, A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS YOU HAVE A 300,000 SQUARE-FOOT REDEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SEEM TO BE A PERFECT SCENARIO TO INSTAL A BANK OF THESE. SO I JUST SUGGEST THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK FURTHER INTO.

>>> THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THIS ISSUE IN YOUR PARKING COMMITTEE TO QUESTION THE VENDOR THAT -.

>>> YEAH TZ -. >>> -- TO SEE IF THERE BE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.

>>> AND IT CAME UP AS PART AND PARCEL.

FRANK WAS ALSO AT THE MEETING A HE WAS OBSERVING THE DISCUSSION.

BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A MORE EXPENSIVE DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE NEXT RU WITH THEM, WHICH ISN'T THIS MONTH, IT'S THE MONTH COMING UP AFTER.

SO I'D BE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT PLANNING AFTER PERSPECTIVE IS ON THIS. MAY BECOME A MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE THE AGENDA. SHE IS PROBABLY WATCHING NOW SO THE SCENE HAD IMPLANTED FOR DINNER WITH HER TO FURTHER THE

DISCUSSION. >>> ALSO THIS MORNING THERE WAS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION CONCERNING PARKING IN FORT PIERCE.

AND THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE GOT TO START THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE PARKING ISSUES I TERMS OF GOING UP WITH GARAGES AND TRYING TO GET BACK UP IN FRONT OF THIS ISSUE. SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOME WOR THAT PERHAPS YOUR COMMITTEE IS GOING TO WIND UP BEING -.

>>> THAT'S ALREADY IN THE MIX. THE PARKING CASSILAS WERE ENGAGED THE ENTIRE ASSESSMENT O THE DOWNTOWN PARKING SCENARIO T DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF QUANTIT OF SHORTFALL AND POTENTIAL LOCATIONS TO PUT VERTICAL PARKING IN.

THAT STUDY WAS COMMISSIONED, I THINK, IN NOVEMBER, AND THE CIT

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I EXPECT TO SEE THE STUDY WITHI THE NEXT 60 TO 90 DAYS, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY TELLING HER BECAUSE THE SHORTFALL, I THINK, FROM THEIR ANALYSIS, IS GOING T BE FAR GREATER THAN EVEN CONTEMPLATED. AND I BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS. AND I JUST THINK THAT THE SHORTFALL IS VERY SIGNIFICANT A THIS FOR, POTENTIALLY 1,000, 1500 PARKING SPACES SHORT, WHIC CAN'T BE ACCOMMODATED IN ONE GARAGE OR AT LEAST BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE SO FAR.

SO IS A WORK IN PROGRESS, WE AR LOOKING FORWARD TO GET A REPORT DIGESTING THAT COME IN BRING TH INFORMATION WITH OUR RECREATION

TO THE CITY COMMISSION. >>> OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.