[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> >>: OPENING THE FORT PIERCE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 11, 2022. IF THIS IS NOT THE MEETING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO EXIT.
IN THE MEANTIME IF YOU ARE STAYING PLEASE TURN OFF ALL YOUR CELL PHONE DEVICES OR ANY OTHER NOISY DEVICES.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU STAND WITH US FOR
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> >>: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
>> MR. BURGE. >> MR. BRODERICK.
>> DID MS. CLEMENTS CALLING? >> SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE PRESENT
TODAY. >> SHE MAY BE RUNNING A LITTLE LATE. THERE IS A LITTLE CONFUSION IN DOWNTOWN WITH THE CLOSURE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON ORANGE AVENUE. I'M GOING TO GIVE HER THAT, SHE GOT HUNG UP BECAUSE SHE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO GET OVER HERE.
HERE SHE COMES. I DON'T LIKE TO START THE MEETING WITHOUT MS. CLEMENTS. WE ARE ALL HERE.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BURGE, SECOND BY MR. BRODRICK, CALLED THE ROLE PLEASE.
[a. Conditional Use and Site Plan - Fort Pierce Self Storage - 1300 S. US Highway 1]
>> YES, MA'AM. >> UNDER NEW BUSINESS ITEM 6, CONDITIONAL USE AND SITE PLAN. FORT PIERCE SELF STORAGE 1300 SOUTH U.S. ONE AND MR. GILMORE IS THE PRESENTER.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON HOW ARE YOU DOING.
>> AFTERNOON PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE WHICH CONSIST OF A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION LOCATED AT 13 SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY, 1400 U.S.
SOUTH HIGHWAY ONE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FOUR-STORY STORAGE FACILITY WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.38 ACRES AND LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF OHIO AVENUE IN SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY ONE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THE GENERAL
COMMERCIAL ZONE. >> THE SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED STORAGE FACILITY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING TREES AND PALMS TO BE LOCATED ON THE SITE AS WELL AS IRRIGATION, GROUNDCOVER AND SHRUBS.
THIS IS THE NORTHWEST ELEVATION. THE NORTHEAST ELEVATION.
IN THE WEST ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED STORAGE FACILITY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ONE CONDITION A CERTIFIED LETTER OF COMPLETION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND COST ESTIMATE PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 123-SIX SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE SPECIFIC OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED FOR THE SITE.
POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CHANGES WERE RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL.
ONCE AGAIN THESE ARE STAFFS CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU BEFORE I GO INTO QUESTIONS, WHO HERE IS NOT A PRESENTER OR REPRESENTING A PRESENTER.
NO ONE? YOU ARE GENERAL PUBLIC?
>> I WILL NOT DO WHAT I WAS PLATED ON DOING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE? >> AND YOU WILL GO.
HOW MANY INGRESS AND EGRESS AREAS ARE THERE?
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>> TO. >> THIS IS U.S. HIGHWAY ONE AND THEN THERE IS A BACK STREETS, I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT THE NAME OF THE ROAD IS. THIRD STREET WHICH IS RIGHT NEAR THE FORT PIERCE GOLF COURSE. OKAY THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU.
>> QUESTION. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE TWO MATURE OAK TREES? OTHER THAN IT APPEARS THEY WILL BE TORN DOWN OR DEMOLISHED.
>> THEY PROVIDED THE TREE SURVEY AND THEY ARE NOT IN GREAT CONDITION SO THEY WILL BE REMOVED.
IN DOING SO THE LANDSCAPE PROPOSAL THAT THEY ARE MAKING IS WELL ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP MITIGATE THE ASPECT OF THOSE TO
BE IN ON. >> THAT'S WHAT I ANTICIPATED.
>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE CONDITION ON THESE REQUIREMENTS?
>> STORAGE FACILITIES ARE A CONDITIONAL USE.
>> IN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION? >> AND C-3.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE ELEVATION HEIGHT OF THE
SUPERMARKET. >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT.
HOWEVER, C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE ALLOWS UP TO 65 FEE OUTRIGHT PERMITTED WITH NO VARIANCES.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEVATION PLAN YOU MIGHT BE ABLE
TO SEE IT THERE. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS PROBABLY WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT SOMEPLACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 2 - 2 AND HAVE STORIES. MY OVERALL CONCERN IN THE APPEARANCES, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION DOWNTOWN CONCERNING KING'S LANDING. ONCE AGAIN WE COULD BE IN A POSITION WITH A FOUR-STORY BUILDING IN THIS AREA OF THE CORRIDOR. THAT IS GOING TO BE OVERPOWERING EVERYTHING AROUND IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AN ANCHORING THEIR BUT IT IS MASSIVE COMPARED TO ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CARD.
>> ACTUALLY THERE IS A BANK, WE THOUGHT THAT SAME THING BUT THEN WE REMEMBER THERE IS A BANK TO THE SOUTH OF IT THAT IS JUST AS
HIGH OR HIGHER. >> THAT IS PROBABLY 3 - 4.
>> OKAY. >> I STAND CORRECTED.
>> THIS IS UNDER THE 60-FOOT. >> YES 65 FEET.
>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE? I WILL OPEN THE MEETING UP TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.
ANYONE PRESENTING OR REPRESENTING THE PRESENTER MAY
COME FORWARD AT THIS POINT. >> MY NAME IS EDWARD MCDONALD I'M WITH THOMAS ENGINEERING GROUP.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND LANDSCAPING.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE I' HERE TO ANSWER WE ALSO HAVE THE OWNERS REPRESENTING PAUL TRIMBLE HERE.
AGAIN THE STAFF DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION AND I KNOW YOU REVIEWED THE SITE PLAN PRIOR, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WE ARE HERE IN ANY QUESTIONS THE PUBLIC HAVE, WE
ARE HERE TO ANSWER. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN.
>> YES. >> I GUESS I DID NOT ASK THIS ORIGINALLY. THE PARKING REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN
>> THERE IS NO LACK OF PARKING IN FOR THE NUMBER OF SPACES ON
>> THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
NOT SEEING ANY. >> ANYTHING ABOUT TREES?
>> SINCE HE HAS ASKED FOR MORE QUESTIONS.
WHAT OTHER USE COULD THIS BUILDING BE USED FOR OTHER THAN STORAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED FOR THIS COULD END UP BEING A WAREHOUSE IF IT WAS WE DESIGNED ON THE INTERIOR.
IS IT CAPABLE OF BEING THAT? OR REDESIGNED LIKE OFFICE SPACES
OR MANY OFFICE SPACES. >> FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A CIVIL ENGINEER THAT IS 5 FEET OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND I DO NOT GO INSIDE THE BUILDING. I KNOW ANY BUILDING CAN BE REPURPOSED FOR ANYTHING. I AM NOT AN ARCHITECT.
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>> I AM JUST WONDERING THESE ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER FORT PIERCE AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
YOU HAVE ONE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM YOU ON OHIO AVENUE OR AT LEAST IT WILL BE. I'M WONDERING WHAT OTHER USE IT COULD BE THEN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING NOW?
>> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
TO ME IT WOULD BE MARKET-DRIVEN AND WHATEVER WOULD HAPPEN IT IS
A TOUGH ANSWER. >> WOULD MR. TREMBLEY -- YOU
WERE HERE A MONTH OR TWO AGO. >> YES I WAS HERE FOR A PREOP MAYBE ABOUT SIX MONTH AGO PAUL TREMBLEY REPRESENTING FORT
TIME IS JUST GONE. >> A PREOP ON THIS PROJECT?
>> YES SIX MONTHS AGO, LAST YEAR.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO FEEL THAT QUESTION?
>> SELF STORAGE BUILDINGS. I AM AWARE OF THE OTHER FACILITY THAT IS CATTY CORNERED. IT IS AN OUTDOOR DRIVE-UP FACILITY WITH A GATE. THIS IS CLIMATE CONTROL FOUR-STORY AIR-CONDITIONED. IT IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
BUT WE ARE AWARE OF THEM AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR GROWTH IN THIS MARKET. AS EDDIE SAID ANY BUILDING CAN BE REPURPOSED IT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED AS A SELF STORAGE FACILITY THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS BUILT FOR A STRONGER LOAD IN A HEAVIER LOAD IT COULD BE REPURPOSED IF NEEDED.
PLEASE DO NOT WISH ME OUT OF BUSINESS.
>> IT IS NOT THAT BUT WERE ORANGE BLOSSOM ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD WILL BE DOING LARGE SELF STORAGE ALSO AND YOU SAY THE ONE KITTY CORNER FROM YOU BEHIND WALGREENS.
>> THERE IS TO DO THE SOUTH GO WOULDN'T.
>> EVIDENTLY STORAGE UNIT PEOPLE ARE WELL AWARE THAT FORT PIERCE IS OPEN FOR THE MARK AS WELL AS ST. LUCIE AND.
>> SINCE WE ARE ON THE SUBJECT WHAT KIND OF A MARKET STUDY WOULD YOU HAVE DONE. I AM SITTING HERE WE HAVE SEVERAL RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS STARTING, SOME UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND ALL OF THEM THEY FOOT PRINTED THE HOUSES AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY LEND ITSELF TO VERY MUCH STORAGE. WHICH IS GOOD ON SOME VIEWPOINTS. BECAUSE SQUARE FOOTAGE ARE LESS COST IN THE WORKING SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNIFY THEMSELVES INTO A HOME. BUT ALSO CREATES A PROBLEM WITHIN THE CITY. THIS IS ONE OF THEM THERE IS NOT ENOUGH STORAGE AT THESE HOMES. AND WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH A SEARCH OF THESE FACILITIES.
FORTUNATELY SELF STORAGE FACILITIES OVER THE YEARS, THE COMPLEXION HAS CHANGED AND AESTHETICS APPEARED TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE OWNERS. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU GO INTO MARKET STUDIES IN FORT PIERCE, WAS IT BECAUSE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING IN?
IT IS SMALLER SIZES? >> IS A COMBINATION.
WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A DEMAND IN THE MARKET.
WE DO DO FEASIBILITY STUDIES THAT TELLS US THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CAPITA. THERE IS METRICS THAT WE USED TO ANALYZE IT. AS YOU MENTIONED PLANNING THE DEVELOPMENT I KNOW LENNAR IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING NEW HOMES AND NEW HOMES BRINGS THE NEED FOR STORAGE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENTS, MAYBE THEY CANNOT HAVE SOMETHING IN THEIR YARD OR THEIR BACKYARD WERE THIS PROVIDES THAT.
THIS IS A CLASS A FACILITY. IT IS GOING TO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, LIGHTING, ELEVATORS, EVERYTHING, MAKING IT REALLY EASY TO COME IN AND OUT OF.
WE HOPE TO DRAW THAT CUSTOMER. >> OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A WEIRD QUESTION.
I NOTICED THAT YOUR BUILDING IS DESIGNED VERY SIMILAR TO THE ALL THESE NEXT-DOOR. AND THESE ARE BORING DESIGNS.
I HATE TO SEE DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE OR ANY PLACE IN FORT PIERCE BECOME ROW AFTER ROW OF A SOULLESS STRUCTURE.
IS THERE ANY WAY OF ADDING A DECORATIVE DESIGN FEATURE OR MURALS OR SOMETHING TO THE FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING SO IT WOULD NOT
LOOK SO BLAND? >> WE COULD CONSIDER SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. WE DO DO THE GLASS FEATURES THAT WILL BE LIT UP SO IT GIVES US SOME APPEAL IN VISUAL INTO THE
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BUILDING VERSUS THE WAREHOUSE. WE ADDED THE PANELING ON THE SIDE TO BREAK UP THE FAÇADE. IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE ALDI BUT WE DID NOT WANT TO BE STICKING OUT FROM ALL THE.WE WANTED A HARD MONEY WITH THE AREA AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN.
WE COULD CONSIDER MURALS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT ALL HAVE VISIBILITY FROM WHERE WE ARE BUT WE HAVE A LAW A WHILE IN LANDSCE AND STAFF ASKED US TO INCREASE LANDSCAPING AND WE DID THAT AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD BE A LOT OF VISIBILITY TO THE BUILDING FROM THE STREET.
>> THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU,
WAS IT RECENTLY HER BIRTHDAY. >> EXCUSE ME.
>> I HEARD YOU SAY IT WAS RECENTLY HER BIRTHDAY.
>> NO I SAID MY BIRTHDAY IS COMING UP IN JULY.
I'LL BE 88. MINE WAS FRIDAY SO THAT'S WHY I
WAS ASKING. >> WE SHOULD HAD A BIRTHDAY
>> I'M SORRY WE REALLY MISS THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. BY THE WAY, I LOOK AT THIS ARTIST CONCEPTION AND I THINK IT LOOKS PRETTY NICE PERSONALLY.
IT'S IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE?
>> OFF-TOPIC SLIGHTLY. I KNOW MR. BURGE WAS REFERENCING WE HAVE BEEN IMPROVING THESE THINGS AT THE BREAKNECK SPEED WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE FACILITIES. THERE HAD BEEN A DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND FOLKS TO THINK THAT THEY WANT TO LOOK AT REWRITING THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE ZONING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE OF APPROVAL.
DID NOT GET ANY TRACTION OR IS THAT AT THE INITIAL DISCUSSION
POINT. >> THERE IS NO CURRENT TRACTION ON THAT. I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
WHATEVER WE GET ANY GUIDANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.
>> ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CAN GUIDANCE.
>> COMMISSION AND CITY MANAGER. >> I WILL DROP THE HINTS.
>> THANK YOU. >> IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER I
WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL FOR MS. BAKER SPIVAK WITH RECOMMENDATION.
>> YES. >> I SECOND FOR MR. BRODERICK.
>> CALLED A ROLE. >> MR. ALBURY.
>> MR. BRODERICK. >> CHAIRMAN.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> DID YOU OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT. >> I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COM COMMENT. I FLUNKED THAT DIDN'T I.
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I MESSED THAT UP.
MOVING FORWARD MR. GILMORE IS PRESENTING THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM
[b. Site Plan - Fort Pierce Commerce Center - Energy Lane (Southeast of Glades Cut Off Road and West of Selvitz Road) - 2431-800-0002-000-0, 2431-800-0003-000-7, 2431-800-0004-000-4, 2431-800-0005-000-1, 2431-800-0007-000-5, 2431-800-0006-000-8.]
B. I'LL TRY TO DO BETTER ON THIS ONE. ITEM B SITE PLAN FORT PIERCE COMMERCE CENTER. ENERGY LANE, SOUTHEAST OF GLADES CUTOFF ROAD AND WEST OF SILVER ROAD.I HAVE ALL THE LOT NUMBERS. IT IS LOT NUMBER 2431 DAC EIGHT 0 0 2431-800-0004-000-4. 2431-800-0005-000-1.
2431-800-0007-000-5. 2431-800-0006-000-8.
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2431-800-0007-000-5. 2431-800-0006-000-8.>> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
BEFORE YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN WHICH IS DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR A 1.25 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SPACE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GLADES CUTOFF ROAD AND WEST OF SELFLESS ROAD. THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS 108.78 ACRES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH INCLUDES SIX PARCELS HAS A DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL WITH ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THE SITE PLAN AS STATED WILL INCLUDE SIX BUILDINGS AND TWO CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREAS WITH SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
TRAFFIC AND PARKING, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND PARKING STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED. THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING ITE STANDARDS WHICH IS THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS PER THE STUDY THE DEMAND WOULD BE 0 .39 PARKING SPACES PER 1000 SQUARE FEET REQUIRED THAT WOULD BE 474 AND APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 506 SPACES. BEFORE YOU IS THE TRACKING.
FOR ELEVATIONS THE COLOR SCHEME, THE APPLICANT PROPOSING TO USE IS WHITE WITH ACCENTS OF LIGHT AND DARK GRACE.
PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, PURSUANT TO 123 DASH 66, THE MITIGATION OF FINAL TREE MITIGATION SHOULD BE APPROVED BY STAFF PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
NUMBER TWO AS CERTIFIED LETTER OF COMPLETION BY THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT PURSUANT TO SECTION 123 DASH SIX SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF PREFER THE SITE.
NUMBER TO A UNITY OF TITLE WITH THE CLERK OF COURT AND A PARTIAL COMBINATION WITH A CONDUCTOR OF AN ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT. THANK YOU.
>> THINK YOU. DO WE HAVE A VIEW SHOWING THE AREA WITH RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN AND AROUND IT?
>> I WILL PULL IT UP. >> ANY QUESTIONS WHY HE IS
WORKING ON THAT? >> THIS IS A COMMENT PAID WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST WE APPROVE 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
OVER 5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE, THAT IS
>> THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT TELLS YOU WHAT CONDITION THE MARKET IS IN. IS A DEVELOPER REPRESENTED HERE? I WANTED TO FIND OUT YOUR PROFILE LIKE WHAT SIZE OF BASE YOU ARE PUTTING IN AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION?
>> I'M GOOD. >> ANY ESTIMATES TO THE AMOUNT
OF EMPLOYEES? >> I WILL CALL YOU UP.
>> OUR AREA THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING IS IN THE YELLOW IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS HALF A MILE AWAY.
>> THE OTHER AREA AROUND THIS ON GLADES ROAD AND SELL THIS ROAD, IS THAT ALL COMMERCIAL? IT IS DOMINANTLY INDUSTRIAL.
>> WE HAD ISSUES IN THIS AREA IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAD INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL IS A STONE THROW AWAY AND SOMEONE SO I WANT TO BRING THIS UP IN AIR AT THE GET GO IF WE CAN.
THIS IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. >> YES AND FLEX SPACE.
>> THIS IS NOT THE DIRTY INDUSTRIAL THAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST THAT IN A COUPLE OF CASES WAS BORDERING RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL ON 25TH.
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>> THAT WAS A CONCRETE PLAN WHEN THEY WERE BUSTING IN THE CONCRETE PLAN. THIS IS CLEANER THAT COMPARISON, IT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE NECESSARILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS IMMEDIATELY AROUND THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY THAT SAID SHE'S FROM THE PUBLIC. MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME DIFFERENTLY. B AND THERE'S ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL, YOU ARE PART OF OUR STAFF NOW.
>> YES. WE WILL INTRODUCE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T DO THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. I APOLOGIZE.
LET'S BRING THE APPLICANT UP AS A JOINT EFFORT.
DONE THIS IN THE PAST AND IT WORKED WELL.
>> AND AFTERNOON I AM ALEXANDRA WITH ENGINEERING AND WE ARE THE
REPRESENTATIVES. >> YOU REPRESENT THE OWNER?
>> YES. >> YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY ON THE
>> YOU ARE ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE? IF WE GET INTO QUESTIONS OF NUMBER OF PERSONNEL IN THE% BUILDINGS CAN YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS?
>> WE CAN PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE, YES.
>> THAT'S ALL WE LOOK FOR. >> YES WE DID BASED ON RECENT EXPERIENCE IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA AND FORT LAUDERDALE IN ESTIMATE OF 3000 EMPLOYEES TO BE WITHIN THE SITE.
>> WITHOUT PEOPLE TIME? >> OPERATIONS VERY.
WITH THE BIGGER HOUSES 24/7, THE FLEX SPACE DURING BUSINESS HOURS
10:00 A.M. TO 6:00 P.M. OR LESS. >> MR. CHAIR.
3000 PROJECTED EMPLOYEES AND YOU HAVE 506 PARKING SPACES ON SITE.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISCONNECT THERE.
>> WE USED THE IT STUDY WHICH PROVIDES A PERCENTAGE OF 0 .39 PER 1000 SQUARE FEET. THAT IS BASED ON NATIONWIDE STUDIES ON WHAT THE DEMAND IS FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.
>> ALL EMPLOYEES ARE EXPECTED TO BE ON SITE AT THE SAME TIME.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE.
>> HOURS WILL VARY BY SHIP. >> ORDINANCE HAS A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION THAT WE USED TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE PER SQUARE FOOT.
>> YES WE DO, HOWEVER, THERE IS THE AUTHORITY OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO UTILIZE ITE STANDARDS IF THEY SO PLEASE.
OUR CLEANING DIRECTOR HAS CHOSEN TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
>> MR. CHAIR, WHAT WITH THE RATIO BE.
>> HAD THEY WENT BY OUR CODE, IT WOULD BEEN 2000 SPACES.
>> WHICH SEEMS TO FIT MORE, 3000 EMPLOYEES AT ALL THINK MANY ARE
TAKING A BUS TO GO TO WORK. >> I WAS TOLD BY A DIRECTOR THAT THE REDUCTION IN SPACES IS ALSO ENCOURAGED BECAUSE IT HELPS WITH DRAINAGE AND AS YOU CAN SEE TWO CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREAS.
>> EXCUSE ME WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION GOING TO BE.
WILL THERE BE THREE SHIPS? >> 24/7 WAREHOUSES AND IS BASED ON TENANT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANTS ARE GOING TO BE.
THE SMALLER BUILDING WHICH ARE 50000 SQUARE FEET.
HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES 10:00 A.M. TO
SIX OR 7:00 P.M. >> CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK IN THE
>> ON THE 24 HOUR BUILDINGS THERE WILL BE THREE SHIPS.
EIGHT HOURS IT IS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM PRODUCE 3000 JOBS BUT I THINK
THAT IS HIGH IN THE SKY. >> A QUARTER OF A MILLION SQUARE FEET THAT IS FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF A MALL.
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FOUR TIMES. I COULD SEE 3000 PER THE REASON I BRING IT UP OUR FIRM IS AN INDUSTRIAL SPACE THAT'S WHAT WE DO. I THANK YOU WILL BE STUCK WITH A MASSIVE SHORTAGE OF PARKING BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE EXCEPT THE TF CALCULATION. WHO AM I TO ARGUE WITH HER.>> IF I MAY ADD YOURS OTHER INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED WITH THE PARKING RATIO.
BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT SEEMS TO BE IN LINE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> MAY I ASK, IN YOUR OTHER DEVELOPING IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND ELSEWHERE, HAVE YOU MADE ANY PROVISIONS WITH WORKFORCE
HOUSING? >> YOU MEAN BRINGING RESIDENTS TO MATCH THE NUMBER OF JOBS BE PRODUCED IN THE AREA?
>> ENCOURAGING TO BUILD WORKFORCE HOUSING AND CONTRIBUTING SOME KIND OF INPUT OR FINANCIAL RESISTANCE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH ARE
BRINGING THE NEW EMPLOYEES INTO? >> I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAD TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN OTHER DEVELOPING CHECK.
RIGHT NOW ON THE MARKET AND THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING WIDELY WELCOMED THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA. SO FAR WE HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO
CONTRIBUTE IN THAT FASHION. >> I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT WELCOME UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY GOING TO LIVE.
THAT'S ONLY THING I'M SAYING. THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD SUSPECT THAT YOUR NUMBERS ARE CALCULATED BASED ON HISTORICAL EMPLOYMENT SITUATIONS FOR THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET.
MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. I COME TO THIS TECHNOLOGY STUFF KICKING AND SCREAMING. IT WAS MY YOUNGET SON THE POSTER DOWN MY THROAT. HE WAS RIGHT.
AS I MOVE AROUND THE COUNTRY AND VISIT MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, AT ONE TIME I PUT THE EQUIPMENT TO THE MANUAL OPERATION AND ICY% ALL OF THE ROBOTIC ADDITIONS GOING INTO THESE FACILITIES THAT ARE VIRTUALLY ON ONE HEATER TAKING JOBS FROM HUMANS BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE HURTING THE JOB MARKET WERE AT AN AVERAGE OF 3.8 THE OTHER DAY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I WOULD THINK IN THIS FACILITY WE WILL SEE MORE ROBOTIC OPERATIONS AND POSSIBLY LESS PEOPLE.
I'M STILL THINKING YOUR NUMBERS ARE HIGH IN THE SKY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. BY THE WAY WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT HOUSING FOR WORKER BEES.
YOU MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMISSION MEETING FROM THIS MORNING OUR AGENDA MEETING THERE IS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION CONCERNING LOW-COST HOUSING. THEY USED A DIFFERENT TERM THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF. IT WAS LOW-COST HOUSING.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE SIGN A AND. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE STUDY THE FIRST COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS PARKING, OR LACK THEREOF, DRAINAGE AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. DREW AND SHE EXPLAINED HER PHILOSOPHY REGARDING THIS AND PART OF THAT WAS TECHNOLOGY REPLACING HUMANS WHICH REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES AND ROTATING THEM SHIFTS INTO ONE AND SO FORTH.
I STILL HAVE A CONCERN OF PARKING AND NOT SO MUCH OF A CONCERN BUT I DON'T SEE THIS IS WHAT I CALL DIRTY MANUFACTURING OR DIRTY INDUSTRIAL. I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY IS
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PLANNING FOR SILVER ROAD IN THE NEAR FUTURE.>> CURRENTLY I AM UNAWARE. I TAKE THAT BACK THE COUNTY IS PLANNING TO EXPAND SELVITZ ROAD. I'M ON THE COMMITTEE AND THERE
IS PLANS TO EXPAND SELVITZ ROAD. >> WITH AKO OUT TO JENKINS?
>> YES. >> PART OF 25TH HAZARD BEEN WIDENED, NOT VERY FAR BUT PART OF IT HAS.
>> IT IS A SHARP TURN. THE HUSBAND TALKS ABOUT EXPANDED
IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> THE TRAFFIC FLOWS HAS PLANS FOR THE FUTURE AND HOPEFULLY TO CURB OFF THE IMPACT IN FACILITIES LIKE THIS MIGHT BRING US.
>> WHAT IS THE FUTURE TRANSIT FACILITY THAT IS PLANNED.
>> THE COUNTY IS PROPOSING A NEW TRANSIT HUB TO BE LOCATED IN THAT LOCATION. I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC BUT I KNOW THAT THE SITE THEY'RE WORKING ON.
I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS PROJECT? NOT HEARING ANY ALCOVES THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.
HIS FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD I WOULD
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> IDLE MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> A MOTION BY MR. BRODRICK AND SECOND BY MS. BAKER FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
>> YES THREE CONDITIONS. >> WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS.
>> CHAIRMAN YES. >> THE Q INTRODUCTION THANK YOU.
TTHE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 780 COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THE DIRECTOR IS ABSENT SO NO
[9. BOARD COMMENTS]
DIRECT REPORTS. COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NOT SEEN ANY. I WOULD RECOMMEND.WATCH THE COMMISSIONER MEETINGS. EVERY PROJECT THAT WE GET IN OUR BOARD MOVES TO THE COMMISSION. SO VERY OFTEN THEY MAKE MODIFICATIONS AND CHANGES AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES BUT IT'S ALWAYS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD WHERE THEY GO AND HOW THEIR HANDLE TO THE COMMISSION. ALSO THIS MORNING THE COMMISSIONER AGENDA MEETINGS YOU CAN PICK UP A LOT OF INFORMATION. I ABUSE MYSELF THIS MORNING BECAUSE I SAT THERE 40 MINUTES OF THE MEETING THIS MORNING.
HE RAN FROM 9:00 O'CLOCK TO 130. AS WE WERE COMING IN, MS. BAKER SAID ARE THEY STILL GOING ON AT 130.
IT WAS A LONG MEETING. BUT I PICKED UP SOME GOOD STUFF THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN GETTING INFORMATION ON.
DO THAT. I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE I FEAR HAVING A HARD TIME GOING TO SLEEP TONIGHT PULL UP THE ORDINANCE. AND START STUDYING 125.
THAT'S WHAT WE GET MOST CONCERNED ABOUT SECTION 125.
TRUST ME YOU WILL GO TO SLEEP. THERE IS NOTHING FROM ANYBODY
ELSE? >> DID YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR
>> MR. BURGE. I'M SURE THE CHAIRMAN IS OVERLOOKING THIS I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME CHANGES IN THE MAKEUP OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS OUR
DIRECTOR IS CONCERNED. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE
MATERIAL TO PRESENT. >> FOR DIRECTOR OR PLANNING?
>> OTHER THAN AN INQUIRY FOR NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR THAT THE CITY
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HAS PUT OUT. I UNDERSTAND MS. HOFMEISTER DREW HAS RESIGNED HER POSITION AND UNTIL I HAVE FOR THE CONVERSATION WITH HER I CANNOT ADD ANYTHING TO IT.BUT VERY GOOD, I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A KENAI AND KEEP UP WITH THAT
STUFF MR. BURGE. >> I WAS THINKING ABOUT APPLYING
>> THAT I COME HERE AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> YOU WANT A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION?
>> NOT UNTIL YOU'RE ELECTED. THEN I EXPECTED.
>> WE HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE IN THE PLATING DEPARTMENT BUT I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND SHE SAID I DON'T WHAT TO DO
THIS. >> DO WE HAVE THE STANDARD
QUESTIONS WERE GOING TO ASK HER. >> I WILL LET YOU HANDLE THAT.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US. >> MY NAME IS BRIGITTE I AM THE NEW PLANNING GROWTH COORDINATOR IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
>> PLANNING GROWTH COORDINATOR, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING
FOR US. >> I WILL BE TAKING CARE OF ALL THE FEES AND RIGHT NOW I'M DOING ADDRESSES.
>> WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU BE DOING. >> THESE.
>> IMPACT FEES ON PROBABLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS.
ALTHOUGH ADDRESSES CAN TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME.
>> AS I FOUND OUT ONE DAY ALMOST BY ACCIDENT IT CAME OUT AND WHETHER THESE MEETINGS THAT M MR. GILMORE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDRESSES. IT WAS THROUGH A DISCUSSION OF AN ADDRESS ON THE WEST SIDE OF INTERSTATE 95 THAT MADE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ANYBODY. AND YOU FIXED IT.
>> IT TAKES CONSISTENT RESEARCH, YOU WOULD BE AMAZED HOW MUCH
TIME ADDRESSING CAN MAKE. >> IN OTHER WORDS YOUR CALENDAR
WILL BE FULL? >> HAVE YOU STARTED ALREADY OR
DO YOU HAVE A START DATE? >> TODAY IS MY FIRST DAY.
THANK YOU. >> AND YOU CAME FROM WHERE?
>> I WAS AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. YOU BEEN HERE IN FORT PIERCE A
LONG TIME? >> BORN AND RAISED HERE.
>> I WENT TO SCHOOL AND WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND CAME BACK.
>> YOU GOT EXPOSED TO TALLAHASSEE AND YOU SAID THIS IS
NOT FOR ME, I'M GOING HOME. >> I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>> WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU BEING A GOOD ADDITION TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU.
>> IF THERE IS
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