Jul 05, 2022 Fort Pierce Utilities Authority

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY REGULAR MEETING.

THIS DRY 5 THD, 2:00 PLEASE STAND FOR THE PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

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[G.1. Rising Utility Costs Communications in Ft. Pierce – For Information Only]

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE FIRST ITEM THIS AFTER IS INFORMATION PRESENTATION ON FPUA COMMUNICATION RELATED TO RISING UTILITY COST. SINCE THEN STAFF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PROVIDE CUSTOMER WITH INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND WHY COSTS ARE RISING SPECIFICALLY NATURAL PRICE GASES AND HOW IT EFFECTS OUR UTILITY BILL.

RACHEL TENET WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM.

>> OKAY THANK YOU MR. CISNEROS.

CHAIRMAN, FEE, MAYOR HUDSON AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME TODAY TO PRESENT ON OUR COMMUNICATIONS. THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE RISING UTILITY COST THAT ARE TAKING EFFECT AS OF JULY 2022. THIS IS WILL AN OVERVIEW OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE CREATED AND MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN SO FAR AS A QUICK REVIEW.

>> WE NEED A REMINDER TO KEEP ALL CELL PHONES OFF.

>> I WILL CHECK MINE AS WELL.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD. >> NO PROBLEM.

READY? >> OKAY.

RISING UTILITY COSTS. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS PERTAINING TO RISING UTILITY COSTS? OF COURSE THE FIRST OF TWO RATE ADJUSTMENTS THAT I PROVED FOR THE SERIES 2022 BOND TO QUESTION INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST AND THE SECOND IN OCTOBER. THIS IMPACTED ALL FOUR UTILITIES SERVICES. ELECTRIC, GAS, WATER AND AS WATER. IN ADDITION TO THESE PLANNED CHANGES, WE ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE OF NATURAL GAS PRICES.

WHICH WE HAVE HAD PRESENTATIONS ON OVER THE LAST FEW BOARD MEETING. THE PRICES HAVE MORE THAN

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THESE ARE IMAGES ARE JUST SCREEN SHOTS OF NEWS ARTICLES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, FP&L PRICES ARE INCREASES. JACKSONVILLE ELECTRIC AUTHORITY ELECTRIC BILL BECAUSE OF THE NATURAL PRICE OF GAS ARE SEEING A SPIKE. JACKSONVILLE BEACH.

IT'S ALL OVER THE STATE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TO FPUA AS IT PERTAINS TO THE PCA.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE ALL AWARE OF AND KEEP IN MIND. BEFORE CREATING THE MATERIALS OR FIGURING OUT HOW BEST TO COMMUNICATION THESE THINGS. WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC FROM COMMUNICATIONS PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS FROM CENSUS DATA. POPULATION GROSS IS 1.44.

THIS IS JULY 2021. 1 1.4. FLORIDA IS 1.1.

IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN BOTH FLORIDA AND THE UNITED STATES PER CAPITA INCOME.

SAME THING SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER AND THEN THE POPULATION PER SQUARE MILE IS DENSER HERE THAN WE SEE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND ALSO IN THE UNITED STATES GENERALLY. THIS IS JUST TO GIVE US A PICTURE WHO IT IS WE'RE TALKING TO.

WHEN WE PUT THE COMMUNICATIONS OUT WHICH IS HELPFUL WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING MESSAGES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE USE ALWAYS.

WHAT WAS OUR PROCESS FOR THESE PARTICULAR COMMUNICATIONS? THE JUNE 21ST BOARD MEETING WAS WHEN THE FPUA BOARD KNEW MORE APPOINTEDLY SUGGESTED KEY COMMUNICATIONS THAT WAS NEEDED.

THIS WAS SOMETHING ALREADY IN THE WORK.

WE'RE JUST STARTING OUR TIME LINE FROM THERE.

JUNE 22ND, WE MET WITH THE ENTIRE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT TO BRAINSTORM LIKELY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THEY WOULD BE SEEING COME JULY.

WE ALSO THE LEADERSHIP MET TO DISCUSS THE NATURAL GAS AND RELATED COMMUNICATIONS. SOME OF THIS STUFF IS MORE TECHNICAL THAN WILL BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE MESSAGE THAT NEEDS TO GO.

BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT INSIDE BEFORE WE CAN PUT ANYTHING TOGETHER THAT NEEDS TO BE SHARED OR CAN BE SHARED OUTSIDE. THOSE MEETING JUNE 22ND, JUNE 24TH WE MET AGAIN TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS AND PREPARE OTHER ONES JUNE 29TH.

WE VETTED THE DO YOU KNOWCATION AT EXEMPT STAFF MEETING. THAT'S ALL EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.

AGAIN, WITH THE CUSTOMERS SERVICE TEAM MEETS ON THE SAME DAY AND THEN JUNE 30TH, WE REVIEW THE FINAL PACK WET THE ENTIRE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS HAS BEEN OUR INTERNAL PROCESS TO GET THESE MATERIALS PUT TOGETHER VERY QUICKLY.

THE MATERIALS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER ARE PRETTY INVOLVED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE TIME LINE.

THIS IS ULTIMATE PACKET THAT WE DEVELOPED.

IT'S MEANT AS THE COMMUNICATIONS TOOL FOR SPECIFICALLY OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES WHO WILL BE RECEIVING A BULK OF THE QUESTIONS FROM OUR CUSTOMERS IN THE LOBBY AND ALSO ON THE PHONE.

THIS WHOLE PACKET HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SOME MORE ACTIVE THAN OTHER. CONSERVATION BOOKLET HOW TO CONSERVE WATER, HOW TO CONSERVE ENERGY AND NOW THEY SHOW WHAT WE MEAN BY MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT STUFF.

WE'LL COVER TODAY IN THIS PRESENTATION THE BOLT ITEMS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PACKET AND THESE COMMUNICATIONS.

THE FIRST IS A WILLTH FROM THE UTILITY DIRECTOR.

MR. CISNEROS PROVIDED A LETTER THAT GOES IN EVERY ONE OF THE PACKETS AND E-MAILS TO THE CUSTOMERS IF THEY CALL WITH QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE A BIN BILL INSERT THAT WILL GO OUT STARTING TODAY.

HOW NATURAL GAS BECOMES ELECTRICITY IN YOUR HOME.

THIS SHOWS WHY THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS HAS IMPACT ON YOUR ELECTRIC BILL. THEN THE COMBINED UTILITY BILL FLIER. THAT'S THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE OF THE FOUR ITEMS THAT WE REVIEW AND IT'S BLUE BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT COVERS ALL OF THE CHANGES, THE FIRST THREE ITEMS FOR WHAT'S PRIMARILY PCA AND NATURAL GAS COMMUNICATION, THE COMBINED FLIER COVERS THE RATE CHANGES THAT PERTAIN TO THE SERIES 2022 BOND. WE HOPE THAT FLIER BECOMES SING WE CAN USE ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS TO HELP US TEACH OUR CUSTOMERS AND OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE VALUE AND SEMANTICS OF A COMBINED UTILITY BILL.

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I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH IT.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THE KEY LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THAT IN THAT LETTER FOR EXAMPLE, AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT ITEMS WE WILL REVIEW. THIS LETTER IS WRITTEN FROM MR. CISNEROS INTRODUCING HIMSELF IN NEW ROLE ALSO COMMITTING NOT ONLY HIMSELF BUT LEADERSHIP TO OPEN DO YOU KNOWCATION AND TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

HOW WRF RELOCATION IS AN IMPORTANT INITIATIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR UTILITY. IDENTIFYING INFLATION AND NATURAL GAS PRICES AS A NATIONWIDE ISSUE.

NAMING SPECIFICALLY THE 59PCA AS EMERGENCY ADJUSTMENT WITH AN UNKNOWN TIME LINE.

COMMITTING TO REVISITING THIS WITH YOU AND THE GOVERNING BOARD. THIS IS REALLY MEANT AS THE SIMPLE BUT COMPREHENSIVE LETTER DIRECTLY FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE ENTIRE UTILITY TO EACH CUSTOMER.

>> THIS HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL.

IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN POINT DIRECTLY TO IT'S NOT ME YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS TELLING YOU. BUT IT'S ALSO COMING FROM OUR DIRECTOR. WE'LL SEE WHERE -- WE'LL KEEP TRACK THROUGH THE MONTH TO SEE WHAT WORKS AND DOESN'T AND TO ADAPTMENT. THIS ONE HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK INTERNALLY SO FAR.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE INSERT THAT WILL GO WITH EVERY BILL THIS MONTHS. IT WAS MODELLED AFTER MATERIALS THAT THEY DRAFTED TO SHARE WITH ALL MUNICIPAL UTILITIES WE ADOPTED IT TO BE SPECIFIC TO FPUA.

AGAIN IT NAMES NATURAL GAS PRICES AS THE NATIONWIDE ISSUE. IT IDENTIFIES NATURAL GAS AS THE PRIMARY FUEL WHICH IS BURDENED AT POWER PLANTSTO CREATE ELECTRICITY FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS STANDPOINT AND ENVIRONMENTAL U.S.S STAGEABILITY STANDPOINT, USUALLY THE WORD BURNED FOR PRIMARY FUELS THE AVOIDED.

I THINK IN THIS CASE WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS A PRIMARY FUEL THAT IS NOT RENEWABLE.

WE DO HAVE TO KEEP GOING IN AND PULLING IT OUT.

THIS IS WHY THE PRICE OF IT MATTERS SO MUCH.

WE ARE BEING DIRECT ABOUT THOSE COMMUNICATIONS AND THESE MATERIALS. IT ALSO BEGINS WITH I THINK SOMETHING WE WILL GO WITH. MOVING FORWARD.

THIS LANGUAGE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY DOES NOT PROFIT FROM THE SALE OF ELECTRICITY OR ANY UTILITY SERVICE. WHAT WE TRY TO DO HERE IS START TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS FUNCTION AS THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY PROVIDER, AND TRYING TO COMBAT ANY MISCONCEPTION THAT WE AS THE UTILITY COMPANY ARE PROFITING OFF OF ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING.

THAT'S VERY DIRECTLY HERE AS WELL.

AGAIN, WE COMMIT TO REGULARLY REVISITING THE PCA CAN OUR GOVERNING BOARD TO ENSURE THE MOST FLEXIBILITY AND RETURN TO LOWER PRICES. WHAT YOU WILL FIND IN PREVIOUS DOCUMENTS IS THE SAME LANGUAGE.

THIS IS ON PURPOSE. THIS ONE WAS FUN.

WE HAD LOOKED AT SIMILAR OTHER FLIERS ELSEWHERE ON HOW TO CONVEY MAYOR HUDSON THIS WAS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO YOUR STATEMENTS AND SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WE HAD AT THE LANDLORD'S MEETING LAST MONTH.

HOW NATURAL GAS BECOMES ELECTRICITY IN YOUR HOME.

AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE TOP HALF IS AN IMAGE.

MODELLED VERY MUCH AFTER SIMILAR ONE ONLINE.

WE START WITH THE DRIRLING RIG ON THE FAR LEFT.

THE DRILLING RIG IS USED TO EXTRACT NATURAL GAS FROM UNDER GROUND. UNDER THAT THERE'S A PIPELINE. NATURAL GAS IS DELIVERED TO POWER PLANT VIA PIPELINE. WE GENERATE ELECTRICITY BY BURNING THE NATURAL GAS. THERE'S A CHANCE TO STEP UP VOLTAGE FROM THE POWER PLANT TO THE TRANSMISSION LINE.

WHICH CARRIES THE ELECTRICITY LONG DISTANCES SO ACROSS STATE OR INTERSTATE.

THEN THERE'S A TRANSFORMER TO STEP IT DOWN FROM TRANSITION LINE TO NEIGHBORHOOD POLLS.

THEN, AGAIN, THERE'S THE POLL TRANSFORMERS.

THAT WILL STEP IT DOWN BEFORE GETTING TO THE DISTRIBUTION LINE AND GETTING TO YOUR HOME AND THERE'S LIGHTBULB ON THE FAR RIGHT.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT THIS CAN DO IS HELP TO SHOW HOW NATURAL GAS WHICH IS A FOSSIL FUEL THAT COMES FROM UNDER GROUND HOW THE PRICE OF THAT RESOURCE IMPACTS THE PRICE OF YOUR LIGHTBULB OR AIR CONDITIONER OR ANYTHING AT HOME OR IN YOUR BUSINESS OR LETTER.

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THEN THE LANGUAGE AT THE BOTTOM.

NATURAL GAS PRICES HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED IN THE LAST YEAR. THEY SPECIFICALLY WE TALK ABOUT HOW ELECTRIC UTILITIES GENERATE THE MAJORITY OF STATE ELECTRICITY BECAUSE OF ARELATIVELY CLEAN FUEL SOURCE. THEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE POWER ADJUSTMENT. WHEN THAT PRICE GOES UP.

THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY GOES UP THROUGH THE PCA.

THOSE THREE ITEMS FOCUSED PRETTY HEAVILY ON THE PCA AND ON THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS AS BEING THE REASON WHY ELECTRIC BILL SPECIFICALLY GOING UP BEGINNING JULY 2022. THE COMBINED UTILITY BILL FLIER WHICH IS ON THE LEGAL SHEET.

IT'S A BIGGER SHEET. HAS ITS OWN FOUR SLIDES.

WE'LL GO TWLU THE -- THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THAT. THE GOAL SO BEGIN THE CONVERSATION WITH HOW FPUA IS NOT A ONE TO ONE COMPARISON WITH ANOTHER UTILITY PROVIDER THAT MAY ONLY OFFER ELECTRIC FOR EXAMPLE.

WE'RE A COMBINED UTILITY BILL WHICH COVERED AT THIS POINT FOUR DIFFERENT UTILITY SERVICES OR WHATEVER IT YOU MAY RECEIVE IN YOUR HOME OR BUSINESS.

IN FT. PIERCE OUR UTILITY REFERSES ARE IN ONE COMBINED BILL. SYSTEM LANGUAGE MAY CHANGE.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO START THIS CONVERSATION HERE.

EACH UTILITY SERVICE LINE ITEM IS DEFINED ON THIS FLIER. AND THEN IT ALSO HAS A SECTION FOR TO JULY 2022 UPDATES CAN BE UPDATED ANYTIME WE HAVE AN UPDATE. FOR EXAMPLE WE CAN COME BACK HERE IN OCTOBER OF 2022 WHEN WE HAVE THE SECOND HALF OF THE SERIES 2022 ADJUSTMENTS AND WE WOULD UPDATE THIS TO SAY WHAT ARE THE OCTOBER CHANGES THAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW? THE ELECTRIC -- THE FIRST OF FOUR IS THE ELECTRIC SERVICE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE COLORS ARE DIFFERENCE.

THIS ONE IS BLACK, GAS THE ORANGE.

WHITE IS BLUE. WATER WASTE GREEN.

THE IDEA JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR ME TO FOLLOW. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE TOP LANGUAGE FROM THE CUSTOMER BILL FOR THOSE LINE ITEMS IN THE BILL. YOU'VE GOT ELECTRIC SERVICE.

CUSTOMER CHARGE. KILOWATT HOUR USAGE.

ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE EACH LINE IS DEFINED.

WHAT IS CUSTOMER CHARGED FOR ELECTRIC.

THE READINESS TO SERVE KNAT RATE CHARGE INCLUDING THE COST OF OPERATIG, MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS LISTED FOR ALL FOUR OF OUR UTILITY SERVICES WHICH IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

I CAN BE CONFUSING. AND SO FOR EACH DIFFERENT SERVICE IT'S DEFINED AGAINST SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHY IT'S THERE.

THE KILOWATT HOUR USAGE THE PRICE OF ELECTRIC USAGE UP TO 750 KILOWATT HOURS WHICH INCLUDES THE BUDGETED COST OF PURCHASING WHOLESALE ELECTRICITY.

THAT PIECE IS IMPORTANT. BECAUSE THE PCA REPRESENTS THE CHANGES TO THE WHOLESALE -- THE COST OF PURCHASING WHOLESALE ELECTRICITY THAT DIFFICULTERED FROM WHAT WE BUDGETED IN OUR BASE RATE FOR THAT KILOWATT HOUR USAGE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S TREMENDOUS VALUE IN MY GOING ITEM BY ITEM IN THE PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO POINT TO THE FACT THAT, THAT IS HOW THIS FLIER IS DEFINED. IT'S MADE SO THAT ANY CUSTOMER OF ANY SERVICE CAN GO AND TAKE THEIR BILL IN ONE HAND AND TAKE THIS FLIER IN THE OTHER HAND AND LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF WHAT EXACTLY IT IS THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR. WHAT IS THIS NUMBER HERE? THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU SEE THE JULY 2022 UPDATES.

THIS IS WHAT IS INEVITABLE FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE SEE. IS WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT UPDATES. THE FIRST THE ELECTRIC SERVICE RATES WERE ADJUSTED BY 5%.

IN COMPARISON RATES HAVE ONLY INKEYSED BY.6% IN THE WHATS 15 YEARS FOR ELECTRIC. THIS INCREASE WAS PLANNED.

WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AND ALLOWS US TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN OUR AGEING ELECTRIC SYSTEM WITH STRONG HARDENING MEASURE AND AT ADVANCE METERING TECHNOLOGY. THE IDEA HERE WE ARE

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PCA WAS ADJUSTED FOR TOTAL PCA OF 59 PER 1,000 KILOWATT HOURS. THIS IS THE SAME LANGUAGE WE PULLED FROM THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT WE REVIEWED.

THIS IS UNPLANNED ADJUSTMENT WITH UNKNOWN TIME LINE CAUSED BY NATIONWIDE EMERGENCY OF RAPIDLY RISING GAS PRICES. SEE FLIER FOR MORE

INFORMATION. >> THE ONE IS ELECTRIC.

THE NATURAL GAS SAME THING. SAME LANGUAGE.

SAME MODEL. WE'RE DEFINING CUSTOMER CHARGE, COMPARISON TO THE KILOWATT HOURS AND THE ELECTRIC AND THE PURCHASE GAS ADJUSTMENT.

THEN JULY 2022 UPDATES. AS FOR THE WATER.

WATER IS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CUSTOMER CHARGE.

THEN WE HAVE THE WATER USAGE WITH THE MINIMUM EXPLANATION. WHEN WE WE DISCUSS THE TEARED WATER USAGE RATES. THE RATES ARE CHARGED ON A PER -- TIERED BASIS. AND SO WHAT OUTLINED HERE IS THAT THE TIERED RATE ENCOURAGES CONSERVATION TO DISCOURAGE OVERALL DRAWINGS. AGAIN, THERE THE NOT GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFINE THE MORE SPECIFIC AND NUANCED REASONING BEHIND WHY CERTAIN BILLS LOOK THE WAY WE DO. WE ALSO PROVIDED THE JULY 2022 UPDATES. THE FIRST IS THE 5% WHICH ENABLES US TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM IN THE SECOND IS 5% IS RELOCATION THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLAN. THAT HAS THE OWN NOTE BELOW.

ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE FOR MOVING THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. ALL THIS DOES IS LAY OUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. ARE WE WITH MOVING THIS PLAN. WHY SIT ON THE BILL THE WATER AND WASTEWATER AS COUPLED SERVICES WHICH SHARE IN THIS INVESTMENT TO MOVE THE WATER WASTE TREATMENT PLAN. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THE NOTES ON THE BOTTOM THAT INDICATE THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE CITY COUNTY TAXES OR FEES WHICH ARE ON THE REGULAR BILL. WE DIDN'T GET INTO THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR FLIER. THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE OTHERWISE IN THE BILL THINGS LIKE RECYCLING, TAXES, ET CETERA. THE FIRST FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE JULY 2022 UPDATE AND DEFINING LINE ITEMS IN THE BILL. OKAY.

THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES. THAT WAS THE HEAVIEST ONE.

THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED RESOURCES AVAILABLE FLIER.

WHICH SORT OF OUTLINES THE DIFFERENCE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO OUR CUSTOMERS AS THEY ADOPT TO THE CHANGES AS WELL ALL ADAPT TO THE CHANGES IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM. AND WE HAVE BUDGET BILLING ONLY TO STABILIZE BILLS IN AN OTHERWISE UNCERTAIN SCENARIO. LIKE NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE KIND OF ON UPDATE AND WE'RE UNCERTAIN WHAT YOU CAN DO TO CALCULATE HOW WHAT WAS AN MONTHSLY BILL WOULD BE INCLUDING THE HIGHS IN THE SUMMER AND THE LOWS YES THE WI WINDER.

THAT WILL GIVE YOU ONE AVERAGE BILL.

EVERYTHING IS THE SAME. IT'S JUST BALANCING IT OUT OVER 12 MONTHS SO YOU HAVE ONE OF THE SAME WILL EVERY MONTH. THE OTHER THING WE HAVE SPECIAL INTEREST WE CAN TAKE WHAT'S PASSED DUE AND KIND OF SPREAD IT OUT ACROSS 12 MONTHS.

THERE ARE ALSO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND IN PARTICULAR THERE'S AN ENERGY AND WATER FAIR INCUE BARRETT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

THERE'S DIFFERENT TIMES. THERE'S FLIERS IN YOUR BIGGS. AS FAR PASSAGES I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. THAT GIVES ASSISTANCE NOT ONLY TO ELECTRIC BILL ALSO ALSO THE WATER BILL WHICH IS NEW. THE WATER PIECE IS NEW.

AND SO THE FAIR AT THE INCUBATE CENTER WILL HELP PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR BILLS ELECTRIC OR WATER.

THERE'S AN ENTIRE APPLICATION PROCESS.

IT'S THE ONE THAT'S RUNNING THAT.

THEY WHETHER BE ABLE TO HELP THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

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WE WITH LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM TO REORGANIZE OR REVAMP THIS PROGRAM. AND DANNY RUTHERFORD WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION TO YOU THIS WEEK THAT JUST KIND OF TAKES ALL THE DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT WE COMPILED FROM DIFFERENT PARTNERND AND OUR ATTORNEY RESEARCH SO WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH KWU.

WE'RE ALSO BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON THE BEST WAY FORWARD KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW NOW.

THAT'S COMING THIS WEEK. THE LAST THING ON -- ALMOST, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TOO THE PROJECT CARE.

PROJECT CARE IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND AT FPUA FOR A LONG TIME. WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT REVAMPING IT. ESSENTIALLY, IT IS A NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS PROGRAM.

CURRENT FPUA CUSTOMERS CAN CONTRIBUTE ON A REGULAR OR ONE-TIME BASIS TO PROJECT FAIR.

THE FUNDS WILL BE USED AS UTILITY ASSISTANCE FOR OTHER CUSTOMERS WHO ARE IN NEAT. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING. YOU CAN DO WITH ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION. YOU SET THE AMOUNT YOU DONATE. YOU CAN DO A MONTHLY DISTRIBUTION. OR YOU CAN DO A ROUND UP THE CONTRIBUTION EACH MONTH. P YOU CAN PUT -- YOU CAN PUT IT INTO THIS FUND. IT'S FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE FOR CUSTOMER WHOSE ARE IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM PAY THEIR BILLS. SO FAR OR AT LEAST SINCE 2005 WAY. I HAVE THE ANNUAL AVERAGE THAT FPUA CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN DONATING THE JUST UNDER 3500 PER YEAR FOR PROJECT CARE PROGRAM.

THE HIGH WAS 287. SINCE 2005 THE GOAL AFFIRM FPUA CUSTOMERS FOUR FPUA CUSTOMERS WITH 62,481.

WE ALSO PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO THAT DURING COVID-19, 2020. WE CONTRIBUTED 150,000 THAT CAME FROM OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, EMERGENCY FUNDING SOURCES LIKE FMPA'S I BELIEVE THE CONSERVATION PROGRAM. WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THAT. I PUT THEM RIGHT INTO THE SAME AREA THAT WE DO WITH PROJECT CARE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE DOING ALONGSIDE TAKING A LOOK AT. TO SEE HOW THAT IS GOING ON TAKING A LOOK AT PRO JKT CARE.

TAKE THE PROGRAM THAT'S FUNCTIONS AND GROW IT AND SHARE IT MORE WIDELY WITH OUR CUSTOMER BASE.

THERE ARE MANY CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ABLE AND WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WILLING IN PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING LIKE AND COMMUNICATING. COMMUNICATIONS CURRENTLY THE PACKET IS BEING DISTRIBUTED PHYSICALLY AS A BAG.

SUCH AS THE ONE YOU EACH RECEIVED THROUGH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE LOBBY. WHEN COMET MERRILL CAN COME WITH THE LAIM. THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH FLIER WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO REVIEW WITH THEM DEPENDING ON AIR QUESTIONS AND THEY USE THEM FOR COMMUNICATION.

WE'RE ALSO SHARING THOSE FLIERINGS, WHEN CUSTOMER CALL THE CUSTOMER SERVICE SUPPORT LINE.

WE ARE PLANNING TO ALSO PLACE A LINK TO THIS INFORMATION ON OUR WEB SITE. WE CAN ALSO SHARE VIA FACEBOOK. WE'RE KIND OF TAKING A PAUSE ON THAT FOR A MOMENT. I WANT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK WITH WE GET FROM CUSTOMERS BEFORE WE PUSH IT OUT TOO, TOO FAR. THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT GET EDDED IT. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE MYTHING. PROBABLY THIS WEEK, BUT JUST KIND OF AWAITING SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK.

AND THEN ONGOING THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS WE WILL BE ADAPTING COMMUNICATIONS AS QUESTIONS ARISE TO EITHER THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES OR ANY OF THE LEADERSHIP INCLUDING YOURSELVES AS YOU IDENTIFIED PERTINENT CUSTOMER CONCERNS THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BEEN

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THIS PRESENTATION HAS BEEN FOR INFORMATION ONLY AND I AM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>>FY -- >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE

BOARD? >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I LOVE THE PACKET. I LOVE THAT THE COMBINED UTILITY BILL KIND OF REPLICATES THE BILL A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS I WAS WONDERING. MAYBE WE LEFT OUT ON PURPOSE. IN THE GAS SERVICE WE HAVE THE PGA THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE A MENTION WHAT THE PGA CURRENTLY IS.

>> THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. >> IT IS IN THERE.

>> THE -- GO BACK TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE ELECTRIC SIDE. SEE HOW IT TALKS ABOUT THE

PCA THERE. >> KID WE AIR JUST IT FOR

JULY? >> YES, WE DID.

>> WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY.

>> MAYBE IT WASN'T ADJUSTED FOR JULY.

MAKE MENTION OF WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS.

I SEE THIS ONE IS GOING UP. I WAS THINKING IT WOULD MAKE MORE CONTINUOUS SENSE. THIS ISN'T AN UPDATE FOR JULY. THAT WOULD JUST BE ONLY FOR JULY UPDATE. MAYBE ON THE LEFT OR SOMETHING. JUNE UPDATE IF IT'S JUNE.

>> WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK. >> CHECK.

>> THE ALSO INITIALLY MADE SOME NOTES.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO ADD EVERYTHING IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TRASH ANYWHERE. BECAUSE IT IS ON THE BILL TOO. AND IT DOES NOT -- ALL WE DO AS THE KOUFT -- COURTESY TO THE CITY TO COLLECT THAT.

I'M SURE SOMEONE BROUGHT THAT UP.

THE BUDGET BILLING AND PROJECT CARE.

I DON'T LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.

I NEED TO DIG INTO THOSE THINGS A LITTLE BIT.

THE PROJECT CARE, HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THAT?

>> I'M NOT EXACTSLY SURE. I KNOW WE HAD SINCE 2005.

MAYBE BEFORE THEN. .

>> THAT'S CRAZY. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT BEFORE. WHAT A GREAT PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY MY HEAD GOES TO I PAY MY BILLS ONLINE. EVEN IF THEY WERE LIKE AN OPTION RIGHT THERE WERE YOU GO TO RENEWIOR LICENSE AND ALL THAT. IT ASKS YOU DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A DONATION FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME PLACE TO HAVE IT RIGHT IS THERE. A LITTLE CHECK MARK.

HOW MUCH. WHAT AN AWESOME PROGRAM THAT IS. OR EVEN HAVE AN OPTION FOR THEM TO DONATE DIRECTLY. SEE IF THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DO IT FOR UTILITY.

MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MUSTARD SEED COULD HELP US

TRACK, TOO. >> THEY CAN DONATE IT DIRECTLY FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

THERE'S SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THEY HAVE.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME PLACE TO PUT IT. AND THEN, AGAIN, BUDGET BILLING TOO.RI NEED TO WALK OF THE ITEMS. SO I CAN GET FAMILIARIZED WITH THEM.

I THINK -- I'VE ALREADY HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE COME TO ME REGARDING JUNE'S BILL JUST BECAUSE THE TIME LINE OF WHEN THE METERS WERE READ.

IT INCLUDES EXTRA DAYS MORE THAN THE LAST READING.

IT'S ALSO WAY HOTTER JUNE THAN IN MAY.

AS I WAS REVIEWING MINE I WAS TRYING TO GO THROUGH IT WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SO THEY COULD TRACK WHERE THEY WERE LAST YEAR JUNE VERSES THIS YEAR'S JUNE.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPTION TO WALK PEOPLE THROUGH.

>> YOU HAVE A PRINTED BROCHURE IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU CAN AT LEAST START THERE.

>> ALL THAT IS DOING AVERAGING WHAT YOUR ACTUAL KILOWATT HOURS WERE THE LAST 12 MONTHS; CORRECT?

>> WE WOULD PULL THE AVERAGE.

YOU WANT 12 MONTHS. YOU NEED ALL THE SEASONS.

OR THE TWO SEASONS. [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE OF THE PCA AND CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO OUR RATE STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING

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IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED NOW THAN IT TYPICALLY IS. THE MAIN THING WE NEED IS 12

MONTHS BACKWARD. >> THAT -- HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? WHAT IF IT DROPS DRAMATICALLY WHEN WE GET OUR FEED UNDERNEATH US ON IF PCA. AND THEN WE'VE ALREADY AVERAGED IT OUT FOR TWELVE MONTHS ON THIS $59.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING HOW THE AVERAGE WILL --

>> RIGHT. WE WILL BASE IT NOW ON WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING, WHICH WE DO KNOW WE'VE LOCKED IN RATES AS OF APRIL 2023. WE CAN ANTICIPATE AT LEAST THAT FAR OUT BUT WE'RE ALSO WILLING TO GO BACK AND REVISIT IF -- IF WE BASE IT ON $59PCA AND SOMETHING AMAZING HAPPENS AND EVERYTHING GOES AMAZING.

WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK IF WE NEED TO.

CUSTOMER IS LOOKING AT THIS STUFF NOW.

WE AREN'T DOING ANYTHING YET ACCEPT LOOKING AT IT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO DO THE

MATH. >>> RIGHT.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THE BUDGET BILL SING IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE. NOT JUST THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT. JUST BUSINESSES THAT WANT A STABLE BILL TO RIDE THROUGH THE SEASONS.

IT'S AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. >> GREAT PROGRAM.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING VERY CLEAR THAT BUDGET BILL SING STABILIZER. IT'S NOT A DISCOUNT.

YOU WON'T PAY LESS FOR ANYTHING.

IT'S THERE TO SERVE AS A WAY TO BETTER PREDICT YOUR BILL SO YOU CAN BUDGET BETTER THAN IF YOU HAD THESE

VARIATIONS. >> KOBLEGARD?

>> IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL THING.

WE NEED TO PRESS THAT AS HARD AS WE CAN.

MY WIFE HAD BUDGET BUILDING. SHE LOVED IT.

FIRST THING SHE LOOKED AT WAS THE OVER/UNDER.

I THINK IF YOU ARE OVER, SAY YOU ARE 2-$300 THAN WHAT YOUR BUDGET BILLING IS. ISN'T THAT FACTORED IN THE

NEXT YEAR? >> IT IS.

EVERY 12 MONTHS. YOU YOU KNOW IN THE NEXT YEAR, YOU WILL PAY IT OVER TIME.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL TO PEOPLE ALSO.

>> IT'S REEVALUATED EVERY TWELVE MONTHS.

IF YOU ARE OVER 100. THEY WILL ADJUST THE BUDGET BILLING AMOUNT. FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR;

RIGHT? >> MISS BENNETT?

>> WE HAVE A PROMOTION TO ENCOURAGE BUDGET BILLING TO

THE CUSTOMERS? >> WE ARE -- THIS IS THE BEGINNING. WE'RE JUST STARTING HERE.

WE'RE RELATIVE I WILL SMALL TEAM AS FAR AS DEVELOPING CAMPAIGNS AND PROMOTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK PROJECT CARE IS A BIG BIG ONE.

I WANT -- IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WHICH ONE TO FOCUS ON FIRST. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON PROJECT CARE FIRST. BUT PROJECT CARE IS PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FACTOR. MR. RUTHERFORD IS WORKING ON THE WE-OP STOP. THOSE ARE OUR TWO BIG BIG ONES. WE WILL, OF COURSE, BE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET BILLING AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE. THOSE ARE THE ONES THEY CAN DO AND PUSH RIGHT NOW. BUDGET BILLING AND SPECIAL BILLING ARRANGEMENTS. FROM THAT AUDIENCE BUDGET WILLING WILL BE PREPARE. FROM THIS OFFICE I'M HOPING TO FOCUS PRETTY HEAVILY ON PROJECT CARE.

AND THEN WE-OP. >> AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE WE-OP PROGRAMS. MANY OF OUR RATE PAYERS ARE

RENTERS. >> WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH THEM BEING ABLE TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED IN THE HOMES. I'M JUST LOOKING HERE; IS THERE SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER FOR LANDLORDS TO BE ABLE TO FIX UP THE HOME SO THAT THE RATE PAYERS WILL BENEFIT FROM IT AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I WANTED TO KEEP IT BEFORE US THAT WE PUT SOME STIPULATIONS WITH I MEAN ON THE LANDLORDS TO HELP THE RATE PAYERS OUT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO THROW INTO

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THE WE-OP PROGRAM? >> ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT, AT THE VERY HIGH LEVEL OF DETAIL. SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THINGS LIKE PROTECTING RENT IF WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE A LANDLORD PROGRAM, THAT THE LANDLORDS CAN WEATHERIZE THEIR HOMES.

THAT'S ALL PART OF THE STUFF WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.

THE WE-OP REVIEW IS EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE.

LOOKS NOT ONLY HOW WE RUN WE-OP BUT WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM. WHY CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS EXIST. WHICH ONES CAN BE CHANGED.

I THINK THERE'S A MUCH BIGGER AND MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION THERE. MR. RULTHERFORD WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH SOMETHING IN WRITING SO YOU CAN REVIEW ALL OF THOSE DETAILS. AND THAT'S WHEN WE ARE COME TO YOU AND ASK FOR FURTHER DIRECTION ON THE BEST WAY TO GO. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE ARE FINDING AND WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS IN THAT SUMMARY, IS THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOOD, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. THERE ARE SOME SOMETHINGS THAT ACTUAL LIMITATIONS THAT COULD BE CHALLENGING FOR US TO ADAPT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOUR MINDS TO HELP US SORT THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S FORTHCOMING. >> HOW DOES A CUSTOMER FIND

OUT ABOUT PROJECT CARE? >> IT'S ON OUR WEB SITE.

I WOULD VEN KLEHR TO SAY CUSTOMERS DON'T STUDY OUR

WEB SITE. >> THE POINT OF PROJECT CARE THAT ONE WOULD BE AND WILL BECOME A PRIMARY PUSH ONCE WE DO THIS REVIEW OF IT. I CAN ENVISION THAT ONE ENDING UP AS AN INSERT. PRETTY SOON, HOPEFULLY.

AND ON FACEBOOK AND A LITTLE BIT MORE PROMINENTLY ON THE WEB SITE AS WE START PUTTING THE OTHER THINGS ON THE WEB SITE AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST ON THE WEB SITE. BUT EVEN WHAT IS ON THE WEB SITE IS MORE DESIGNED FOR THOSE CUSTOMER WHOSE WANT TO SIGN UP TO BECOME DONORS. WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. HERE'S HOW YOU CAN BECOME A DONOR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT FORM DIGITAL. RIGHT NOW IT'S PDF.

I WOULD LIKE DIGITAL VERSION OF THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WORKABLE FOR US INTERNALLY AND THEN ALSO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ASSISTANCE.

TRYING TO GIVE FOLK DIRECTION WHERE TO GO FOR

THAT TOO. >> IT'S NOT THERE YET.

>> OKAY. >> I THINK THIS IS -- WHEN I FIRST BECOME MAYOR AND BECOME ON THIS BOARD, I SIGNED UP FOR THIS. EMPLOYEES GET TO DO THIS ALSO. IS THAT NOT CORRECT?

>> TO DONATE? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I THINK CERTAIN PORTION OF WHAT I GET FROM THE FPUA IS DONATED TO THIS PROGRAM. I HOPE THAT'S STILL HAPPENING. I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT A REPORT ON IT. OR HOW MUCH I'VE GIVEN.

I SIGNED UP FOR THIS BECAUSE I DID THAT FOR HERE.

FOR THE CITY I DID UNITED WAY.

>> WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT WHETHER -- IT SHOULD SHOW UP ON YOUR BILL IF I REMEMBER DIRECTLY.

WE COULD VERIFY THAT YOU -- >> I KNOW I SIGNED UP FOR IT. EARLY ON I GOT REPORTS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S STILL HAPPENING OR WHAT'S

HAPPENING. >> I'M NOT SURE EITHER.

WE DID REACH OUT TO MUSTARD SEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THIS THEM. AND TALKING WITH FINANCE AS WELL. THAT'S WHERE MY NUMBERS CAME FROM OUR INTERNAL FINANCE REPORTS.

AS FAR AS REPORTING BACK TO YOU ON THE IMPACT OF THE FUNDS YOU RECEIVED. WHAT DOES ZZ 3500 IN A GIVEN YEAR MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY? I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO ON PULLING THAT STUFF TOGETHER.

SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I DON'T THEIR WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS THE BOARD FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T KNOW.

ALSO, I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THIS IS CLEAN -- THIS THE CLEANEST ENERGY; RIGHT? THAT PRODUCES ELECTRICITY?

>> ACCEPT FOR NUCLEAR. >> ACCEPT FOR NUCLEAR.

>> IT'S CERTAINLY PREFERABLE TO THE OTHER OPTIONS

>> RIGHT. >> I KNOW THAT'S BURIED HERE. THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE THINKING OF IT -- IT'S LIKE GAS IN YOUR CAR. IT'S CLEANER THAN THAT.

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RIGHT? >> NATURAL GAS IS A VERY

CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE. >> YES.

>> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SCARCITY IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE. BECAUSE IT'S A CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE. AND I KNOW IT'S -- YOU MENTIONED IT. AT SOME FUTURE TIME.

DID YOU TALK ABOUT EMPHASIZING THAT OR NOT?

DID YOU REALLY? >> IT'S ONE LINE IN ONE FLIER. THAT CAN BE FILLED OUT.

>> I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT. AND SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT THEIR BILL LOWERED. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT IT.

AND ALSO I THINK YOUR LETTER IS EXCELLENT.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD FORMAT IT BOLD SOME THINGS.

IT'S ALL GRAY. YOU NOTICE WHEN YOU GET CAMPAIGN THINGS IN THE MAIL. THEY GOT THINGS UNDER LINED AND BOLDED. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOT TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT. BUT IT'S EXCELLENT.

IT'S EXCELLENT. I JUST THINK SOME IMPORTANT POINTS YOU MIGHT WAND TO BOLD OR UNDERLINE OR FORMAT LIKE YOU DID THE TABS IN. THAT WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION DOWN TO THAT. IT'S MINOR.

BUT IT MAKES PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ THINGS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY DON'T.

I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T, ON THE SAMPLE PUT THE TOTALS. I BROUGHT MY BILL TODAY.

MY BILL HAS INCREASED. AND IT'S NOT YET GOT THE PCA. IT'S A HOT JUNE; RIGHT?

>> IT'S A HOT JUNE. >> AND I'M GOING TO BE DOING SOME THINGS TO TRY TO KEEP THAT UNDER -- I THINK THAT'S THE ENERGY SAFER TIPS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THAT.

AND YOU CAN'T TOTAL IT. IT'S -- I REALIZE NOW THAT BECA BECAUSIST -- BECAUSE I WAS COMPARING TO THE BILL. I'M KIND OF BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WITH YOU. BECAUSE GARAGE IS ON HERE.

AND THE OTHER THINGS ARE ON HERE.

I'M KIND OF THINKING MAYBE LEE THAT OFF.

IT'S ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE WILL.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

WE AS THE COMPANY; IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THE IDEA TO FOCUS ON THE UTILITY PORTION.

THAT'S KIND OF AT THE MOMENT.

THIS WHOLE PACKET WAS TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATE CHANGES THAT ARE KNOW. MAYBE A SIMPLER -- THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME WITH THIS WE COMMUNICATED WITH FMEA.

NICOLE ALBER. >> FMEA.

>> ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS THINGS WE PUT TOGETHER. AND SHE DOES PUBLIC AFFAIRS.

SHE'S A PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR FOR FMEA.

THAT'S ALL THE UTILITIES. SHE PUT OUT REQUEST TO ALL THE UTILITIES TO SHARE WITH US HOW DO THEY COMMUNICATE THEIR COMBINED UTILITY BILL. WHAT WORDS DO THEY USE? WHAT FORMATS? THERE ISN'T MUCH.

HOWEVER I BELIEVE IT WAS OUC HAS A VERY NICE DIGITAL VERSION OF THEIR BILL WITH THE NUMBERS AND YOU CLICK IT AND IT COMES UP AND IT'S EXACTLY THAT.

I SAVED IT ON MY BROWSER. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NICE AND IT LOOKS LIKE A BILL. AND IT INCLUDES THAT WOULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE THE OTHER PIECES.

THE TRASH AND KEEP FLORIDA BEAUTIFUL.

IT'S AN ACTUAL BILL. THAT STUFF WOULD BE NEXT AFTER WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EMERGENCY

COMMUNICATIONS. >> ONE MORE MR. CHAIRMAN.

ON THE THE BUDGET BILLING. WHILE YOU'RE NOT CONCENTRATING ON THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS ARE CONCENTRATING -- PROEMOTING THAT.

>> YEAH. >> WHEN I GOT MY BILL OVER THE WEEKEND. I DECIDED I WOULD APPLY FOR THIS. HOW DOES -- THEY FEEL IT OUT

ONLINE? >> DO YOU FILL THIS OUT ONLINE. THERE'S AN ONLINE FORM.

THERE'S A LINK WRITTEN OUT IN THE BROCHURE.

GOES THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICE.

IT'S WRITTEN ON THE FRONT SO YOU CAN DO THAT.

THE FORM SENDS THE INFORMATION TO CUSTOMER SERVICE AND I THINK THEY CALL YOU.

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>> DISCUSS WITH YOU THE IMPACT TO YOUR BILL WOULD BE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO AGREE

TO IT AND EVERYTHING. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

I HOPE IT DON'T OPEN UP A BIG CAN OF WORMS. HOW MANY LANGUAGES ARE YOU GOING TO SEND THIS OUT IN?

>> ENGLISHS TOUGH ENOUGH. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. WE TYPICALLY HAVEN'T DONE MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC NEED.

WE WILL MAKE SURE WE TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S PROMOTE.

>> DEMOGRAPHICALLY WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE LANGUAGES.

ENGLISH, SPANISH AND CREOLE. CONSIDER IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO READ IT. IF YOU CAN SEND IT OUT IN A COUP COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. YOU SEND THE NOTICES BUT IT CAN'T READ IT. THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY ARE POINTING IF FINGER AT US.

KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.

IF YOU THINK IT'S THE BEST COURSE TO KEEP IT IN ENGLISH. GO AHEAD.

I THINK WE WOULD BE CUTTING PEOPLE OUT OF THE LOOP.

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS.

WE PROBABLY TO GET IT PROPERLY TRANSLATED.

WE WOULD PROBABLY FARM IT OUT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S PROPERLY TRANSLATED.

I CAN READ AND WRITE SPANISH.

BUT TRANSLATE, I WILL NOT DO A GOOD JOB.

WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO FARM IT OUT IF WE WENT DOWN THAT

ROAD. >> WE D HAVE THE NATURAL GAS BECOMES ELECTRICITY FLIER. WE HAD A COUPLE OF TEAM MAYBINGS TRANSLATE TO SPANISH FOR US.

IT'S KIND OF TIME CONSUMING. THEY ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE WHOSE ARE HAVING TO NOT DO WHAT THEY NORMALLY DO IN ORDER TO DO IT.

IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION. THEN WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.

I WILL GO BACK TO PROJECT CARE.

IS THAT TAX DEDUCTIBLE? >> YES.

>> MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE FLIER.

>> THAT SHOULD BE ON THERE. >> IT'S ADMINISTERED BY MUSTARD SEED MINISTRIES WHICH IS A 501C-3.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE VERY, VERY CLEAR IN THE MATERIALS. YES.

WE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT SORTED.

>> YOU HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.

>> OKAY. PERFECT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO EDUCATION PART OF THE MEETING.

VERY NICE JOB. >> A LOT OF INFORMATION.

GREAT JOB WITH RACHEL. RACHEL DID THE HEAVY

[G.2. Sunshine Law Overview – For Information Only]

THE NEXT ITEM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THE INFORMATION PRESENTATION ON FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW OVERVIEW.

TODAY PRESENTATION WILL BE THE SECOND IN THE SERIES.

TODAY WILL FOCUS ON WHAT IS PUBLIC RECORD AND THE CODE OF ETHICS FOR BOARD MEMBERS. THE TIMING OF THE PRESENTATION WORKS WELL AS WE HEAD INTO THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE NEXT WEEK. DAN O-HAGEN MEMBER -- MANAGER OF REGULATORY COMPLIANCE OR

FPUA PRESENT THIS ITEM. >>> I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

WE HAD ENOUGH SUNSHINE LAW. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

AS JAVIER SAID LAST TIME WE WANTED TO DO TWO PARTS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW.

WE BROKE IT INTO TWO EASIER PART AND GIVE YOU A NICE FOUR MONTHS BREAK. LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPEN MEETING SUNSHINE LAW, YOU KNOW, OPEN PUBLIC MEETING PORTION OF IT. WE WANT TO FOCUS ON NOW TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW SIDE OF THINGS.

WHAT IS THE PUBLIC RECORD? WHAT ARE YOUR ATTENTION REQUIREMENT. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. I TRIED TO TAYLOR THESE TO YOU ALL TOO. TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMON RECORDS YOU MAY MAKE OR RECEIVE OR REQUEST THAT MAY COME TO YOU IN YOUR POSITIONS.

NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WOULD GO TO THE CITY CLERK OR THOSE THAT DEAL WITH IT REGULARLY.

PLEASE STOP ME AND ASK QUESTIONS AS I GO.

THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIALS HERE.

AND I DID THAT ON PURPOSE SO I CAN GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION BASED ON QUESTIONS YOU HAVE R THINGS THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED. THEN ALSO AS JAVIER MENTIONED SINCE THIS THE CONFERENCE AND SEMINAR SEASON IN THE SUMMERS. I KNOW I HAVE A FEW ON MY CALENDAR. I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE FLORIDA CODE OF ETHICS FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS.

THE GIFT LAW. YOU MAY FIND YOURSELVES GETTING TOKENS TRINKETS. IN FLORIDA THE SUNSHINE LAW

[00:55:06]

WE TALKED ABOUT PART B THE PUBLIC MEETING PORTION.

TODAY WE WILL FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON PART A WHICH IS RIGHT TO INSPECT OR COPY ANY PUBLIC RECORD MADE OR RECEIVED IN CONNECTION WITH THE OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF PUBLIC BODY. THERE'S A LOT TO UHM P PACK -- UNPACK THERE. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? HOW IS IT ENFORCIBLE? FIRST THING THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT. IT'S IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

AND WRITTEN INTO THE STATUTES.

AND WE AND YOU ALL WANT TO FOLLOW THE LAWS THAT YOU'RE SUBJECT TO. FIRST AND FOREMOST IT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. KNOWING VIOLATION CAN BE A FIRST DEGREE MISDEMEANOR WITH UP TO ONE YEAR IN PRISON AND $1,000 FINE AND ANY SUBJECT TO REMOVAL FROM OFFICE. ONE OF THE BIG KICKERS IS THOSE DARN ATTORNEYS. THE ATTORNEYS FEES IS REALLY BIG DETERRENT FOR VIOLATING THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.

IF THERE'S A PUBLIC RECORDS SUIT AND THEY LOSE THAT SUIT THEY PAY ALL OF THE COMPLAINTANT'S ATTORNEY FEES. IT USED TO BE A STRICT STANDARD. ANY VIOLATION, NO MATTER HOW SMALL. IF YOU CHARGE ONE PENNY TOO MUSCLE. OR LEFT ONE DOCUMENT.

WOULD RESULT IN PAYMENT OF THE FEE.

OR IF E-MAIL GOT LOST AND THEY BROUGHT A SUIT.

THERE COULD BE A LAWSUIT YOU WOULD LOSE AND PAY THE FEES.

THE LEGISLATURE IMPLEMENTED MORE REASONABLE STANDARD.

IF YOU POST WHO YOUR CUSTODIAN OF PUBLIC RECORDS IS BEFORE THEY RUN AND FILE SUIT THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU FIVE DAYS NOTICE BEFORE THEY FILE THE SUIT.

I CHECKED ON FPUA'S WEB SITE YESTERDAY.

AND YOU WILL SEE THERE. YOU HAVE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST PAGE THAT NAMES YOUR CUSTODIAN HOW TO GET AHOLD OF THEM. THIS GIVES YOU THE FIVE-DAY GRACE PERIOD BEFORE SOMEONE CAN FILE SUIT AND LOUS YOU TO CORRECT AN ERROR IN RESPONDING TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. YOU LIKE STUCK PAYING THE ATTORNEYS FEES. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IS PUBLIC RECORD? IT'S SIMPLE AND COMPLICATED AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S REALLY ALL DOCUMENTS PAPER, LETTERS. IT GOES ON AND ON.

IT WAS WRITTEN WHEN WE WEREN'T DOING EVERYTHING ON COMPUTERS. THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT WHAT PHYSICAL FORMAT QUALIFIED AS PUBLIC RECORD.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT FORMAT IT IS.

IT DOESN'T HOE YOU TRANSMITTED IT.

IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD. NOW WE NECKUS MORE ON THE DIGITAL STUFF, WHICH IS WHAT I WILL FOCUS ON LATER.

WE DO MOST BY TEXT AND E-MAILS AND TEAMS. THE SECOND PART OF THIS. ANY OF THOSE MATERIALS MADE OR RECEIVED PURSUANT TO LAW OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE OFFICIAL BUSINESS BY AN AGENCY, INCLUDES ANY OF THOSE MATERIALS MADE TO PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE. THE SUPREME COURT BROKE THIS DOWN INTO ONE SENTENCE THAT I BROKE DOWN INTO FIVE PARTS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

THEY SAID IT'S ALL MATERIALS.

ALL, AND IT MEANS ALL. DIGITAL, RECORDED, PHYSICAL, ALL MATERIALS MADE OR RECEIVED.

NOT JUST MADE BY YOU BUT ALSO RECEIVED BY YOU.

BY AN AGENCY, FPUA IS AN AGENCY SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW. AND I HIGHLIGHTED FOUR AND FIVE. I THINK 1, 2 AND 3 ARE STRAIGHT FORWARD. WITH FPUA BUSINESS.JUNCTION- AND IT HAS TO BE USED TO PERPETUATE COMMUNITY INDICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE.

I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT IS AND ISN'T IN SOME REAL WORLD SCENARIOS.

IN CONNECTION WITH OFFICIAL AGENCY BUSINESS.

I LIKE TO THINK OF THIS AT FMPA WHEN I WORK MY FMPA HAT. IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE.

IF I WEAR MY FMPA IF YOU WHERE YOUR FPUA HAT WHEN YOU MAKE OR RECEIVE ANY OF THOSE MATERIALS, IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD. IT DOESN'T MATTER THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION. TEXT, E-MAIL, WRITTEN, RECORDED, VOICE RECORDED. IT'S NOT LIMITED TO JUST YOU, THE BOARD, IT'S ANY EMPLOYEES OF FPUA.

IT'S NOT JUST AN OFFICIAL RECORD BY THE OFFICIALS OR

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IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOU THINK OF AS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS. THE MINUTES OR THE BOARD MEETINGS. IT'S ANYTHING.

IT'S ANY OF THOSE ALL MATERIALS MADE OR RECEIVED IN CONNECTION WITH BUSINESS. IT'S A VERY, VERY BROAD DEFINITION AND IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF AS THE THINGS YOU PUT ON YOUR WEB SITE OR YOUR OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS. IT'S ANYTHING YOU DO WHEN YOU WEAR YOUR FPUA HAT. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE.

THIS AN ACTUAL TEXT MESSAGE EXCHANGE BETWEEN JODY FINKLY, HE'S FMPA GENERAL COUNSEL.

THIS IS REAL TEXT MESSAGE. WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS.

WE WANT TO SEND YOU CHRISTMAS CARDS.

>> YES, WE HAVE TO GET TO THAT.

I DELETED THE ADDRESS. AND THEN A LITTLE BIT LATER I SAID LET ME KNOW IN YOUR OFFICE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT GE ISSUE WE'RE HAVING. THIS WAS SENT FROM MY PERSONAL PHONE TO HIS BUSINESS PHONE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST TWO BOXES THERE ARE PERSONAL IN NATURE. AND THE SECOND TWO BOXES ARE FMPA BUSINESS. IF I WAS TO GET A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST NOR, IS PART OF THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORD.

PART OF IT ISN'T. THAT BOTTOM PART WHERE WE START TALKING ABOUT THE CANINE AND THREE REPAIRS.

THAT WAS MADE OR RECEIVED IN CONNECTION ASK WITH FMPA BUSINESS AND IT WAS INTENDED TO COMMUNICATE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT BY ME SENDING IT TO HIM.

THE FIRST PART ABOUT IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER IT WAS ON MY PERSONAL PHONE. THE FIRST PART IF I GOT A PUBLIC ROECORDS, I COULD DELETE THAT.

IT'S NOT A PUBLIC RECORD. I WASN'T WEARING MY FMPA HAT. IT WASN'T PART OF BUSINESS.

WAS PERSONAL AND ASKING HIM FOR HIS HOME ADDRESS TO SEND A CHRISTMAS CARD. TECHNICALLY IF I GOT REQUEST FOR THIS. I COULD DELETE THE FIRST PORTION. IT DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF PUBLIC RECORD. IT'S BAD HABIT TO DO THIS.

BECAUSE I'M MIXING PERSONAL AND BUSINESS.

AND SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHAT THE PUBLIC RECORD AND WHAT ISN'T AND WHAT SHOULD BE REDACTED.

THIS WILL GET READ. I DON'T PUT PERSONAL THINGS IF MY E-MAILS TO MY BOSSES THAT I DON'T MIND SOMEONE READING LIKE THIS. BUT IT'S GOOD PRACTICE TO TRY TO KEEP THESE SEPARATE. BECAUSE IF YOU GET REQUESTED AND IF REDACT THEM AND THERE'S A LAWSUIT BROUGHT.

I THINK THEY REDACTED THINGS THAT WEREN'T PUBLIC RECORDS.

IT COULD WIND UP BEFORE A JUDGE THAT IS READING ALL THE TEXT MESSAGES. YOU WILL SEE IN TYPICAL LAWYER FASHION. I WAITED UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE BEFORE WHEN I COULD GET HIM HIS CHRISTMAS CARD IN TIME. NEEDLESS TO SAY THEY ARRIVED LATE. E-MAILS, TEXT MESSAGES ALL OF THOSE FORM OF COMMUNICATION.

IT'S WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MADE OR RECEIVED IN CONNECTION WITH FPUA BUSINESS.

E-MAIL ADDRESSES LIKE TEXT MESSAGES.

IT'S NOT THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S SENT FROM PRIVATE E-MAIL TO ANOTHER PRIVATE E-MAIL. OR WHETHER YOU USE YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER TO SEND IT.

THAT'S NOT THE DETERMINING IN FACTOR IN WHETHER IT'S THE PUBLIC RECORD. IT'S THE CONTENT AND NATURE OF THE E-MAIL ITSELF. HERE'S ANOTHER REAL WORLD EXAMPLE. THIS IS AN E-MAIL FROM ME FROM MY FMPA OUTLOOK OFFICIAL AGENCY E-MAIL ADDRESS TO MY WIFE SAYING I'M STOPPING AT PUBLIX ON THE WAY. DO YOU NEED ME TO PICK

ANYTHING UP? >> I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS.

IT DID THIS TO CREATE AN EXAMPLE.

THIS AN EXAMPLE OF THE I GOT A PUBLIC ROSHDS REQUEST FOR THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S FMPA E-MAIL I AM NOT CONDUCTING FMPA BUSINESS WHEN I SEND THIS E-MAIL.

THIS ENTIRELY PERSONAL. TECHNICALLY IF WE GOT A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR THIS I COULD CLAIM IT DOESN'T MEAN THE DEFINITION OF PUBLIC RECORD.

IF SOMEONE SAID I WANTED ALL THE E-MAILS BETWEEN THESE DAYS WE COULD REDACT THIS ONE SAYING IT'S NOT A PUBLIC RECORD. I WILL CAUTION YOU, THAT IF YOU GET INTO ROUTINE OF SENDING PERSONAL E-MAILS LIKE JUST LIKE TEXT MESSAGES, SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH THEM AND REVIEW THEM.

ALSO, IT COULD BECOME A PUBLIC RECORD.

LIKE THIS E-MAIL RIGHT HERES NOT A PUBLIC RECORD.

I JUST PUT IT INTO A PRESENTATION WHICH IS NOW PART OF PRESENTATION MATERIAL AND MADE IT A PUBLIC RECORD. THIS IS NOW A PUBLIC RECORD IF SOMEONE REQUESTED THIS IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD.

IT'S CONTENT IN A PRESENTATION THAT I'VE COMMUNICATED TO YOU WHILE I'M WEARING MY FMPA HALT AND CONDUCTING THE RAINING. IF YOUR IT DEPARTMENTOR OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS COLLECTING AND MONITORING E-MAILS,

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BUT IF THEY WANTED TO INVESTIGATE EMPLOYEE THINKING THEY WERE MISUSING THEIR COMPUTER, AND SO THEY STARTED TRACKING E-MAILS. THESE TYPES OF PERSONAL E-MAILS COULD BECOME A PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE OUR IT HAS ACCUMULATED FOR A BUSINESS PURPOSE.

THEY'VE CREATED SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A PUBLIC RECORD INTO A SEPARATE NEW PUBLIC RECORD.

THERE'S WAY THESE CAN GET WRAPPED UP.

EXERCISE CAUTION WHEN YOU ARE DOING PERSONAL THINGS ON YOUR FPUA DEVICES OR ACCOUNTS.

I DON'T DO THIS AS A PRACTICE.

I DID THIS FOR AN EXAMPLE. I'M HAPPEN TO SHARE

-- HAPPY TO SHARE IT. >> SOCIAL MEDIA THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT A LOT OF BOARD COMMISSIONER AND THOSE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT. THIS IS AN OLD OPINION.

SURPRISINGLY THERE'S NO UPDATES TO IT.

THIS QUESTION BACK IN 2009. IT'S NOT A QUESTION ANY MORE WHETHER SOCIAL MEDIA AND POSTING TO SOCIAL MEDIA QUALIFIED AS PUBLIC RECORDS. THEY ARE.

BACK IN 2009. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AT LEAST CAME OUT WITH AN OPINION THAT SAID THEY BELIEVE THEY'D WERE. THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF CASES AND SUCH THAT HAVE COME OUT SENSE SAID THEY VERY MUCH ARE. IT'S NOT JUST FACEBOOK.

IT'S ANY FORM OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

TWITTER, SNAPCHAT, LINKED IN, INSTAGRAM.

ANYTHING WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY AREAS HERE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE FPUA WEB SITE.

OR FACEBOOK PAGE OR TWITTER. AGAIN THIS COULD BE CROSSOVER BETWEEN PERSONAL ACCOUNTS AND WHERE JIG YOUR HATS. THEN YOU CONDUCT FPUA BUSINESS THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE.

THAT MAKES A PUBLIC RECORD. OR YOU COULD BE HAVING AN EXCHANGE THAT YOU THINK IS PERSONAL AND IT GET WRAPPED UP INTO THE GRAY AREA OR VERY JUST OVERTLY PUBLIC RECORD. JUST A WORD OF CAUTION.

THESE ONE UNLIKE WHEN YOU COMMUNICATE THROUGH YOUR E-MAIL SERVERS OR FPUA ISSUED CELL PHONES.

IT'S A DIFFICULT TO TRACK AND RECORD THESE.

BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO IT FROM A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

FPUA ISN'T NECESSARILY MONITORING THOSE AND SCREEN SHOOTING AND CAPTURING THOSE.

IT FLIPS THE OMINOUS ON TO YOU TO RECOGNIZE WHEN YOU CROSSED THE LINE AND START CREATING A PUBLIC RECORD AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED TO RETAIN THOSE.

THE WORD OF CAUTION TO RECOGNIZE THOSE VERY MUCH CAN BE PUBLIC RECORDS. AND TO BE CAREFUL TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE DOING IT. IF YOU ARE MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME WAY THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY RECORDINGS IT.

WHETHER IT'S A SCREEN SHOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> IF A REQUEST COMES IN THEY ARE NOT JUST DELETED.

I WILL STOP THERE FOR A MINUTE.

I USUALLY GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> I DON'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> NEITHER DO IT. I'M CLEAR.

>> I GET REQUESTS ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT PRIVATE

MESSAGES; RIGHT? >> AND SOMEONE WANTS ME TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM. WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS COPY THE PRIVATE MESSAGE. SEND TO CITY E-MAIL.

IT'S REALLY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T -- YOU'RE TELLING US THIS. DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, REQUEST THINGS ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT. AND PRIVATE MESSAGE.

AND I SAID, PLEASE SEND THIS INTO MY CITY E-MAIL.

BECAUSE IT'S SHOULD BE PUBLIC RECORD.

AND THEN THEY SENT IT TO CITY E-MAIL AND THEY SAY PLEASE KEEP THIS CONFIDENTIAL.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE.

PLEASE DO IN OTHER FORMAT. IF THAT'S HABIT.

YOUR RESPONSE TO THOSE REQUEST.

MY PRACTICE TO RESPOND IN THIS WAY.

>> THOSE CORRESPONDENCE WHERE YOU SAY PLEASE DO IT THIS WAY. THE RETENTION REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE IS SO SMALL IF YOU DELETE THOSE YOU ARE OKAY.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO KEEP IT CORRESPONDENCE THAT SAID PLEASE SEND E-MAIL.

>> OKAY. YOUR ATTENTION AND REQUIREMENT FOR THAT TYPE OF RECORD IS UNTIL THE ADMINISTRATIVE VALUE IS LOST.

IN THAT CASE THAT EXCHANGE IS LOST AS SOON AS YOU COMMUNICATED TO THEM DO IT THIS WAY.

IT'S ALSO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE YOUR FRIENDS OR SUPPORTERS OR WHATEVER. FIND IT OFFENSIVE; RIGHT?

>> I'M JUST ASKING YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION.

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THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. >> ESPECIALLY ON THE SOCIAL MEDIAONES WHERE THEY DON'T THINK.

WHEN THEY E-MAIL YOUR OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OR TRANSACTING ON THE CITY PAGES.

THEY KNOW THAT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT ON PERSONAL ONE IT

GETS A BLURRED LINE. >> RIGHT.

>> OKAY. THAT'S THE WHAT IS A PUBLIC RECORDS. IT'S VERY CLEAR IT'S THIS VERY BROAD DEFINITION. IT'S THE CONTENT.

NOT THE MEANS AND YOU THINK AM I WEARING MY FPUA HAT WHEN I CREATED OR RECEIVED IT.

WHAT ARE RETENTION REQUIREMENTS AND WHEN DO I HAVE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND HOW DO I GIVE THEM ACCESS TO IT? AGAIN ACCESS TO THE RECORDS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. AND IT'S VERY BROAD.

EVERY PERSON, NOTICE IT DOESN'T SAY FLORIDIANS OR DOESN'T SAY FLORIDIANS WHO ARE NOT FELONS.

EVERY PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO INSPECT OR COPY OF PUBLIC RECORDS. AND IT'S THE POLICY OF THE STATE THAT ALL STATE COUNTY MUNICIPAL RECORDS ARE OPEN FOR PERSONAL INSPECTION AND COPYING BY ANY PERSON.

VERY BROAD. I WILL TOUCH ON THOSE A LITTLE BIT. HOW TO RETAIN.

HOW LONG TO RETAIN THEM. IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTENT OF THE RECORD ITSELF. THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE, DIVISION OF LIBRARY, INFORMATION SCIENCES THAT'S A REAL THING. THEY CREATE THE RETENTION SCHEDULES FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF RECORDS.

IT'S HUNDREDS OF PAGES LONG. THEY TRY TO CREATE LARGE CATEGORIES. THEY CALL THEM RECORD SERIES THAT ARE BIG SORT OF TRAUNCHES OF DOCUMENTS.

THEY SCHEDULE PERIOD FROM THAT.

THEY GO FROM IMPORTANT AND CONTRACTINGS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE CORRESPONDENCE LIKE MEETING INVITATION OR INNER OFFICE ADMINI ADMINISTRATIVE CORRESPONDENCE.

THOSE ARE RETAINED UNTIL OBSOLETE OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE VALUE IS LOST.

YOU HAVE NO RETENTION REQUIREMENT ANYMORE.

ALTHOUGH THE PUBLIC RECORD WHEN THEY WERE MADE AND RECEIVED, YOUR RETENTION REQUIREMENT COULD BE UNTIL YOU'RE DONE READING IT. THE BIG ONE OF THOSE AND A LOT OF TIME FOR STAFF TRAINING.

WE GO INTO DETAIL ON THOSE TYPES OF RETENTION PERIODS AND WE TRY TO TEACH THEM SOME OF THAT.

FOR YOU ALL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU ARE THINKING OF DELETING TALK TO CITY ATTORNEYS.

WE'RE AROUND TOO IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US A CALL TOO.

ACCESS TO PUBLIC RECORD. WE KNOW WE HAVE TO KEEP IT SPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME. AGAIN BECAUSE OF THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE SO BROAD IN THE CONSTITUTION AND THE STATUTES THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT YOU CAN'T DO WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THE RECORDS.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS LAW IN FLORIDA. AND WHAT YOU WILL HERE LINES UP EXACTLY WITH THAT. IF YOU GET A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, WE CANNOT REQUIRE AS A CONDITION REQUESTING IT. WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEY PROVIDE THE NAME, THE ADDRESS, THEIR TELEPHONE NUMBER. WE CAN'T REQUIRE THAT THEY PUT IN IT WRITING. WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEY GIVE THE REASON WHY THEY ARE REQUESTING IT.

WE CAN'T IMPOSE ANY OTHER WHAT WE CALL UNREASONABLE CONDITIONS ON THEIR REQUEST BEFORE RELEASING IT.

YOU MIGHT THINK, HOW DO YOU POSSIBLY RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE. WE HAVE TO GET CREATIVE.

IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE PHONE NUMBER OR E-MAIL ADDRESS, WE CAN RESPOND AND SAY WE ASKED.

WE GET A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

WE ASK CAN YOU PUT THIS IN WRITING.

WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAVE A PHONE NUMBER AND E-MAIL TO GET BACK TO YOU. MOST DO.

IF THEY REFUSE TO, THE ANSWER MIGHT BE WE SAY OKAY.

WE WILL HAVE THESE READY FOR YOU AT THIS LOCATION BY THIS TIME. YOU CAN COME BACK AND INSPECT THEM. THERE'S WAYS AROUND SOME OF THESE IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO RESPOND.

YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN ORDER TO GET THIS RECORD, YOU MUST FILL OUT THIS FORM. YOU CAN'T REQUIRE BIT IN WRITING. OR REQUIRE THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION. WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE A NEW RECORD IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC ROSHDS -- RECORDS REQUEST. I WANT A LIST OF ALL THE CONTRACTORS THAT YOU'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. YOU MAY NOT HAVE A LIST.

YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO KAET THAT LIST.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CREATE THE LIST.

IF YOU SAY WE DON'T HAVE A LIST.

WILL GIVE ME EVERY CONTRACT OF EVERY CONTRACTOR YOU'VE HAD. THAT'S MORE WORK THAN PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST. WE CAN CHARGE FEES.

THERE'S STATUTORY FEES THAT YOU CAN REQUIRE.

YOU CAN REQUIRE UP FRONT PAYMENT.

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>> EVEN THOUGH THE WHOLE DOCUMENT IS PUBLIC RECORD, THERE'S OVER 1800 INDIVIDUAL EXEMPTIONS IN THE LAWS WHERE SOMETHING MIGHT NEED TO COME OUT BEFORE IT CAN BE RELEASED. EXAMPLES LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION.

THERE'S OTHER ONE FOR CERTAIN CUSTOMERS.

YOUR FIRST RESPONDER, FIRE DEPARTMENT YOUR POLICE OFFICERS. STATES ATTORNEYS THEY CAN COME IN AND REQUEST AND THEIR INFORMATION BE CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT. AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. IF YOU RESPOND, YOU MUST REDACT IT FIRST. THERE'S 1800 OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL ONES. THIS FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW IF YOU GET A PUBLIC ROSHDS REQUEST OUT ON THE STREET, AND SOMEONE CATCHES YOU OFF GUARD.

I HARDLY GET THESE. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO RESPOND.

REAL SIMPLE WAY FPUA HAS A STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO REVIEW INFORMATION FIRST. WE WILL GET YOU THE INFORMATION. WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR ATTORNEYS AND OUR CUSTODIAN OF PUBLIC RECORDS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO REVIEW THEM AND REMOVE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN RELEASE IT.

THAT GIVES YOU THE TIME NOT HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESPOND ON THE SPOT. IF IT'S A BOARD AGENDA PACKAGE OR MINUTES AND THERE'S NO CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. YOU HAVE IT READILY AVAILABLE. MY SUGGESTION YOU THAN IT OVER. ANYTHING YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE. YOU ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO HAND IT OVER TO CITY ATTORNEYS AND CUSTODIANS TO REVIEW BEFORE YOUR RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC

RECORDS REQUEST. >> AT FMPA WE HAVE A SCRIPT THAT WE LEAVE AT OUR FRONT DESK.

THEY CAN SHORT OF READ THE STRIPT AND THEN WE HAVE PHONE NUMBERS THEY CAN CALL. WE CAN COME DOWNSTAIRS AND HELP THEM OUT. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW ALL EXEMPTIONS. THEIR JOB IS TO SAY YES, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS FIRST. I WILL STOP THERE.

THAT IS SORT OF THE END OF HIGH-LEVEL PUBLIC RECORDS SIDE OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. BEFORE I KIND OF WANTED TO JUMP INTO IT'S CONFERENCE AND SEMINAR SEASON.

I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ONE IMPORTANT POINT ON THE OPEN MEETINGS SIDE OF THINGS. AND I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON GIFT LAW. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON IF PUBLIC RECORDS SIDE OF THINGS.

I'M HAPPY TO JUMP INTO THAT NOW.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT VOICE MAILS IS IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE KEEPS THOSE.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT PREFERSES ALL VOICE MAILS THAT COME INTO THE CITY. I'M SURE THAT'S TREE FPUA

TOO. >> VOICE MAILS DO COME THROUGH AND THEY ARE SAVED. THEY GO INTO OUR E-MAIL.

WE HAVE THE SAME PROGRAM. [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT.

I AGREE. IT MAY GET THE BROADNESS OF THE DEFINITION BEING IMPEDIMENT TO SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO WRITE. MAYBE THAT'S THE ORIGINAL -- THE COURTS HAVE INTERPRETED THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT IT BE AVAILABLE TO ANY PERSON SO BROADLY ANYTIME IT COMES BEFORE THEM THAT ANY ATTEMPT BY AGENCIES TO PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON IT WILL ALMOST UNIFORMALLY GET SHUTDOWN. WHAT WE ADVISED OUR PEOPLE TO DO. WE WANT IT IN WRITING.

TAKE NOTES FOR THEM. YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IN WRITING. EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU WANT.

WE WRITE IT DOWN. THEN WE ASK THEM HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET AHOLD OF YOU.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEIR INFORMATION.

WE CAN MAKE THESE AVAILABLE ON THIS DATE.

ON THIS DATE YOU CAN COME BACK AND WE WILL PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON YOUR REQUEST.

WE CAN'T TELL THEM NO. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH ACCOMMODATIONS. THEN VERY BRIEFLY.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

WE COVERED THIS LAST TIME. IT'S CONFERENCE AND SEMINARS COMING UP. I WANT TO RAISE REMINDERS.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS LIKE WE'RE SITTING IN RIGHT NOW. SUNSHINE LAW IS THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF ACCESS TO ALL MEETING OF WHICH OFFICIAL ACTION ARE TO BE TAKEN OR PUBLIC MATTERS TO BE DISCUSSED.

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IT'S NOT AN AGENDAED ITEM. IT'S ANYTHING THAT MIGHT FOR SEEABLY COMBEFORE YOU FOR AN ACTION IN THE FUTURE.

IF IT MEETS CRITERIA. HAS TO BE OPEN TO BE PUBLIC.

MINUTES HAVE TO BE TAKEN. THE EXAMPLES TO TALK -- TO PUT IN THE KIND OF THINKING WHEN YOU ATTEND CONFERENCES OR SEMINARS, OR TRAININGS WHERE YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER. THERE'S NOT A PER SE VIOLATION OF YOU ALL BEING IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER AT THE NONPUBLIC EVENT OR FUNCTION OR CONFERENCE OR SEMINAR OR GATHERING. AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT DOING THOSE TWO THINGS. AS LONG YOU AREN'T DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT MAY COME BEFORE YOU FOR ACTION. THIS THE HELD UP EVER SINCE.

WHERE A QUESTION WAS ASKED THEM.

A FEW OF US BOARD MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE ATTENDING A PRIVATE FUNCTION, LUNCHEON WILL BE SERVED.

WE WILL BE SITTING AT THE SAME TABLE? IS IT VIOLATION. YOU CAN BE IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER AND YOUR KIDS AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THAT. BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT MAY FOR SEEABLY COME BEFORE YOU AS THE BOARD FOR ACTION. WHERE THAT GETS TRICKY IS WHERE YOU AT CONFERENCE OR SEMINAR OR A TRAINING EVENT WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT UTILITY MATTERS.

IF YOU ARE FMEA CONFERENCE AND THERE'S A BOND PRESENTATION UP THERE FOR MUNICIPAL BONDS.

AND YOU HEAR THIS GREAT INFORMATION.

AND YOUR FIND YOURSELF IN THE HALLWAYS LATER.

IT'S FINE TO TALK ABOUT HOW NICE THE FUNCTION IS.

HOW NICE THE HOTEL IS. TO EVEN SAY THAT BOND PRESENTATION WAS INTERESTED. WHERE YOU WOULD CROSS THE LINE IF YOU START SAYING I THINK THIS UNDER GROUNDING PRACTICE WE HAVE AT FT. PIERCE WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE THINGS WE LEARNED.

YOU CROSSED THE LINE FROM TALKING ABOUT THE WEATHER.

AND YOUR KIDS, OVER INTO SOMETHING THAT MAY COME BEFORE YOU FOR ACTION. BECAUSE YOU NOW PUT YOUR FPUA HAT ON. THERE'S TWO OF YOU IN THE ROOM. PUBLIC IS NOT AVAILABLE.

MINUTES AREN'T BEING TAKEN. THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU FIND YOURSELF AT THE MEETING. DON'T RUN OUT OF THE ROOM.

YOU SEE ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER THERE.

BE AWARE WHEN YOU SIT TOGETHER, OR WHEN YOU SEE EACH OTHER AT THE FUNCTIONS OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TOPIC OF THE CONFERENCE IS THE VERY THING THAT YOU DO HERE AS THE BOARD.

THERE'S ALSO A CODE OF ETHICS FOR LOCAL OFFICIALS THAT APPLIES TO YOU ALL. SOME PROHIBIT YOU FROM CERTAIN ACTION OR CONDUCT. SOME OF THEM REQUIRE A REPORTING IF IT TAKES PLACE. AND A LOT OF THE APPLY NOT JUST TO YOU ALL. BUT ALL FPUA OR ALL FMPA EMPLOYEES. I DRAW TO DRAW DISTINCTIONS.

I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE GIFT LAW PORTION OF IT.

THERE ARE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND OTHER PROVISIONS IN THE CODE OF ETHICS.

IN THE SMALL TIME HERE. THAT CAN BE A PRESENTATION FOR ANOTHER SOMEDAY IN FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT GIFT LAWS.

BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S CONFERENCE AND SEMINAR SEASON. IN ONE APPLICABLE TO ALL FPUA EMPLOYEES. ALL EMPLOYEES AND ALL FPUA BOARD MEMBERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM SOLICITING, ASKING FOR OR ACCEPTING ANYTHING OF VALUE BASED ON AN UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR VOTE OFFICIAL ACTION, JUDGMENT DECISION MAKING WOULD BE INFLUENCED BY THAT GIFT.

THIS IS A QUID PRO QUO. THERE CAN'T BE UNDERSTANDING YOU GIVE ME THIS GIFT. I VOTE YES ON THIS ITEM THAT WE WILL VOTE ON LATER THIS MONTH.

PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT ONE IS. NO QUID PRO QUOS.

I WILL JUMP AND COME BACK TO THIS ONE.

A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO PIN DOWN.

IS UNAUTHORIZED COMPENSATION.

THIS ONE APPLICABLE TO ALL FPUA EMPLOYEES.

AND BOARD MEMBERS. PROHIBITED FROM TAKING ANY OF VALUE THAT YOU KNOW OR SHOULD KNOW WITH THE EXERCISE OF REASONABLE CARES GIVEN WITH THE INTENT TO INFLUENCE YOUR OFFICIAL VOTE OR ACTION.

THIS ONE IS HARD. BECAUSE IT'S YOU READING THE

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THIS YOU SAYING WHY AM I RECEIVING THIS THING OF VALUE. IS THIS PERSON GIVING THIS TO ME BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO INFLUENCE MY JUDGMENT. THIS IS HARD BECAUSE THERE'S GRAY AREAS AND BALANCING ACT.

YOU HAVE TO THINK OF THE VALUE.

THE CONTEXT IN WHICH IT'S RECEIVED.

WHETHER THERE IS SOMETHING BEFORE YOU THAT THE GIVER MIGHT BE WANTING TO INFLUENCE.

THIS ONE IS A DIFFICULT ONE. WE GET ASKED THE QUESTION A LOT. IT'S IN YOUR JUDGMENT.

YOU KNOW THE PERSON BETTER THAN I DO AND WHAT THE CONTEXT IS. IF YOU GO TO CONFERENCE, AND THE CONFERENCE HAS A 30-MINUTE PRESENTATION BUT THEY FLY YOU THERE TO MAUI AND TAKE YOU ON TWO-DAY FISHING EXCURSION AND PAY FOR YOUR MEALS AND HOTELS ROOM. 30 MINUTE TRAINING SESSION TO TWO DAYS WITH FLIGHT INCLUDED AND EVERYTHING OF THEY ARE GIVING YOU THING OF VALUE TO INFLUENCE YOUR ACTION. NOT JUST FOR THIS 30-MINUTE TRAINING EXERCISE. YOU'RE ALTERNATE ALL WEEK CONFERENCE WHERE YOU ARE LEARNING ABOUT MUNICIPAL BONDS AND ALL THAT. IT'S A GENUINE TRAINING SESSION. ONE VENDOR PAYS FOR A LUNCH.

SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE TRAINING SESSION. BUT NO OTHER THINGS OF VALUE. THAT VENDOR DOESN'T NECESSARILY DO BUSINESS WITH FPUA.

YOU HAVE NOTHING BEFORE YOU. THAT MIGHT EFFECT THIS CONTRACT THEY HAVE. IN YOUR JUDGE.

YOU CAN SAY THEY CAN'T BE GIVING THIS TOW TO INFLUENCE OFFICIAL ACTION I WILL TAKE. THEY PROVIDING THIS LUNCH FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM. AND IT'S THIS MINIMAL VALUE FOR THIS WEEK-LONG CONFERENCE.

THERE'S A GRAY AREA. THERE'S NOT BRIGHT-LINE RULES WITH IT. AGAIN THIS ONE IS ALL FPUA EMPLOYEES. LAST ONE, AND THIS ONE FOR FORM ONE REPORTING INDIVIDUALS.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL ARE ALL FORM ONE.

I KNOW MAYOR HUDSON FORM ONE REPORTING INDIVIDUAL.

I BELIEVE EVERYONE FILES FORM ONE COMMISSION ON EXITS. THERE ARE MORE BRIELTH LINE RULES ON ACCEPTING OF GIFTS FOR FORM ONE FILERS.

YOU ARE PROHIBITED. NO MATTER THE VALUE FROM ASKING FOR ANYTHING OF VALUE FROM A QUOTE LOBBYIST.

THIS IS NOT A LOBBYIST OF THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.

IT'S ANYONE THAT'S DOING BUSINESS WITH FPUA OR ATTEMPTING DO BUSINESS. SEEKING BUSINESS WITH FPUA.

NOT A LOT OF ASK THEM FOR VALUE.

NOT EVEN A PEN. ACCEPTING THINGS OF VALUE.

THERE'S $100 CUT OFF. ANYONE WHO IS DOING BUSINESS OR ATTEMPTING TO DO BUSINESS WITH FPUA.

WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE $100. GIFTS TO SPOUSES ARE ADDED TO THAT AMOUNT. IF THERE'S A DINNER INVOLVED. IF IT'S $51 PLATE, WITH THE OF YOU THERE. IT'S $102 GIFT.

THE TERM GIFT THERE'S A GRACE PERIOD.

YOU HAVE NINETY DAYS TO REIMIMBURST TO REDUCE THE VALUE DOWN TO $100 OR IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE FULL AMOUNT. AS LONG AS YOU REDUCE TO UNDER 100 IT'S NOT A PROHIBITED GIFT.

I WILL STOP THERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

IS A LOBBYIST. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE REGISTERED. THEY COULD BE ANY KIND OF ADVOCATE THAT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH FPUA.

>> DON'T THINK OF IT AS TALLAHASSEE LOBBYIST.

IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT IS DOING BUSINESS WITH FPUA OR SEEKING BUSINESS WITH FPUA.

AS FAR AS THE VALUE, TOO, IT'S ON YOU ALL TO TAKE A REASONABLE EFFORT TO DETERMINE VALUE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY GIVE ME YOUR RECEIPT.

IF YOU RECEIVED SOMETHING OF VALUE AND IT'S CLOSE THE OMINOUS IS ON YOU TO MAKE REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE VALUE IS. WHAT FMEA CONFERENCE FOR EXAMPLE, WE BEHIND THE SCENES HAVE TRIED TO PUT A LOT OF THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS. IF THERE ARE DINNERS OR LUNCHEONS PAID FOR BY SPONSORS BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SPONSORED EVENT, WE MAKE SURE THE SPONSORS ARE BROKE UP AND THE DOLLAR VALUES ARE LOW ENOUGH SO THERE'S NO VIOLATION OF THESE. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MULTIPLE SPONSORS FOR A DINNER, SO NO ONE SPONSOR PAYS A FULL AMOUNT. WE MAKE SURE DAY ARE PICKING PLATES AND MENUS AND KEEP THE TOTAL VALUES DOWN.

WHERE YOU MIGHT RUN INTO TROUBLE IF YOU INVITE SPOUSES OR FAMILY. THOSE ALL NEED TO BE ADDED TOGETHER. YOU HAVE THIS 90-DAY GRACE PERIOD TO PAY THAT DOWN TO BE UNDER $100.

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>> LAST THING THERE ARE DISCLOSURE FORMS.

>> I DO A LOT OF ASKING FOR DONATIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS FOR MY SCHOOL. THEY DO BUSINESS WITH FPUA.

WILL THAT BE CONSIDERED SOMETHING I'M BREAKING

SUNSHINE LAW? >> IT SHOULDN'T.

IF I DOESN'T BENEFIT YOU. IF YOU ASK ON BEHALF OF CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION AND THIS IS A BIG POINT TOO.

ACCEPTING ON BEHALF OF THE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION, NOT YOU AS YOUR POSITION HERE AS THE BOARD MEMBER.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE A VIOLATION OF THE SOLICITATION GIFT. IF IT DOES BENEFIT YOU, YOU MAY RUN INTO A PROBLEM. IF IT COULD BE SHOWN THAT THE DONATION EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE GOING THROUGH YOU ARE BENEFITTING YOU PERSONALLY.

IT COULD. IF IT'S STRICTLY YOUR WORKING ON BEHALF OF CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION.

YOU'RE ASKING AND YOU ARE HAVING THOSE DONATIONS GO THROUGH AT NO BENEFIT TO YOU.

THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SIMILARLY IF YOU GET A GIFT, EVEN IF YOUR POSITION HERE, A GOOD EXAMPLE. WE TRAIN ON THIS, LOTS OF GIFTS AND CHOCOLATES. YOU CAN ACCEPT ON BEHALF OF FPUA. IF YOU RECEIVE A LARGE GIFT BASKET. THIS MUST COST $200.

I'M PROHIBITED FROM ACCEPTING.

YOU CAN ACCEPT IT ON BEHALF OF FPUA IF YOU MAKE IT AVAILABLE EQUALLY TO EVERYBODY.

WE GOT GIFT BASKET FROM X, Y, Z, CONTRACTOR.

YOU CAN TAKE A BOX OF CANDIES OUT OF THERE.

YOU ARE ACCEPTING ON BEHALF OF FPUA.

IF YOU TAKE ONE BOX AND KEEP THE REST.

I MIGHT ADD YOU GOT LUCKY IF YOU ANSWERED NO.

>> I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID YES AT THE PUBLIC MEETING.

>> REAL QUICKLY, THEN TWO FORMS, ONE OF THEM FINANCIAL STATEMENT -- STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL INTEREST.

THIS GOES TO FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS.

THIS BASED ON YOUR POSITION. I BELIEF YOU FILED THESE.

I CAN FOLLOW UP UP AFTERWARD TO SEE IF YOU DO.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO. >> THEY COME TO US FROM THE

SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION. >> THAT'S GOOD.

THAT MAKES ALL OF YOU THEN THE 100 THRESHOLD STANDARD THEN APPLIES TO EVERYBODY SITTING UP HERE.

YOU WILL FILL THE FORMS OUT. IT WANTS TO KNOW GENERALLY WHAT YOUR SOURCES OF INCOME ARE.

JUST SO IT'S ON REGARD. IF THERE ARE ANY CONFLICTS.

IT'S NOT A COMPLICATED FORM. YOU FILE WITH SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION. THERE'S A FORM NINE.

I GUESS NO ONE HERE HAS FILLED IT OUT.

THERE'S A QUARTERLY GIFT DISCLOSURE FIRM.

IF YOU RECEIVE A GIFT IN EXCESS OF $100 FROM SOMEONE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO RECEIVE IT FROM.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FILE A QUARTERLY GIFT DISCLOSURE.

IDENTIFYING WHAT THE GIFT WAS AND WHO GAVE IT TO YOU.

I DON'T RECEIVE GIFTS FROM RANDOM PEOPLE WHO AREN'T RELATIVES NECESSARILY OR LOBBYIST JUST OUT OF GOODNESS OF HEART. I DON'T SEE MANY FILES.

IF YOU RECEIVE A GIFT IN EXCESS OF $100.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FILE THESE FORM.

THAT'S SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THESE ARE MY FINANCIAL INTEREST PERSONALLY. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS NOT RELATIVE. WHO I'M NOT INCRIMINATING MYSELF. I DON'T ACCEPT GIFTS FROM LOBBY. THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSE TO.

PEOPLE CAN SEE THERE'S NO CONFLICTS GOING ON.

>> JUST TO BE CAREER. THIS IS BROADER THAN WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE. WHERE ITS LOBBYIST.

THIS GOES ON TO YOU DO LEGAL WORK FOR SOMEONE AND HE'S IMPRESSED INSTEAD OF PAYING THE WHOLE BILL HE PAYS MORE.

YOU HAVE TO REPORT IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT RELATED TO ANY TYPE OF UA BUSINESS WHATSOEVER?

>> IN THAT EXAMPLE. YOU COULD CALL THAT COMPENSATION. I THINK ANOTHER EXAMPLE

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YOU HAVE A PERSONAL FRIEND NOT RELATED TO YOU WHO BUYS YOU $200 GOLF BAG FOR CHRISTMAS.

THAT'S IN EXCESS OF $100 FROM NONRELATIVE.

NOT A LOBBYIST. YOU CAN ACCEPT IT.

TECHNICALLY YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO RECORD THAT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE FRIENDS.

I WISH I DID. ONE THING I DIDN'T INCLUDE.

LOBBYISTS ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT ANYTHING IN EXCESS OF $25 THAT THEY PROVIDE TO YOU.

BETWEEN -- IF THEY DON'T REPORT OVER $100.

BETWEEN 25 AND $100. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO FILE A FORM. I DON'T SEE THOSE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE LOBBYIST ARE AWARE OF THE LAW. THAT WAS ALL I HAVE.

I HOPE I DIDN'T GO TOO LONG. THSE WERE IN THE LAST TIME TOO. SUNSHINE LAW MANUAL ON ATTORNEY GENERAL PAGE IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR BOTH OPEN MEETINGS AND THE PUBLIC RECORDS PORTION OF IT.

THEY ALSO HAVE SOME TRAINING ON FORM ONE THERE'S A CHECK BOX THAT SAID I DID FOUR HOURS OF TRAINING ON THESE THINGS. IF THEY HAVE A TRAINING COURSE YOU CAN CLICK ON. IT'S AUDIO YOU CAN LISTEN TO. FLORIDA STATE THEIR INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT HAS ANOTHER RESOURCES FOR TRAINING. TO FILL THAT REQUIREMENT.

I ME THESE ARE FREE. THERE'S PAID ONES OUT HERE TOO. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. INFORMATION IS ON HERE AS WELL. APPLY AND JETTY'S OFFICE.

IF THINGS ODAUGHTER LATER. GIVE US A CALL.

IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE ONE FOR QUESTION ABOUT THE GIFT. DOES THAT INCLUDE GIFTS TO FAMILY MEMBERS LIKE CHILDREN?

>> FROM A LOBBYIST. >> IF A CONTRACTOR OF FPUA GAVE A DIRECT RELATIVE -- IT STOPS AT IMMEDIATE FAMILY.

IF THEY GAVE A CHILD OR A SPOUSE SOMETHING OF VALUE, YES, THAT COULD COUNT AS THE 50 TO YOU.

>> THE REASON I ASK. THE OTHER FORM SAID ANYONE THAT'S NONFAMILY MEMBER. NONLOBBYIST WHO GIVES YOU GIFT OF $100 OR MORE HAS TO BE REPORTED.

LET'S SUPPOSE MY DAUGHTER GETS 21,000 SCHOLARSHIP TO AUBURN UNIVERSITY. IT'S CLEARLY A GIFT.

BUT IT'S A SCHOLARSHIP. THE FORM ONE WAS A GIFT FROM ANYBODY THAT WAS A NONLOBBYIST AND NONFAMILY MEMBER. THAT'S VERY BROAD.

AND THOUGH CLEARLY A SCHOLARSHIP.

IT'S A GIFT. >> SHE EARNED IT.

>> SHE EARNED IT. I WOULDN'T HAVE TO REPORT

THAT. >> WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED HERE IT GETS INTO THE DETAIL OF WHAT THE DEFINITION OF GIFT IS. THERE'S A LOT OF CARVE OUTS OF WHAT "GIFT" MEAN. I'M NOT SURE IF SCHOLARSHIP IS SPECIFICALLY LISTED. THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMPLES THAT ARE EXEMPTED FROM THE DEFINITION OF ITSELF.

>> THIS FORM NINE CONFUSING FORM, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR NONLOBBYIST GIFTS OVER $100 THAT YOU ARE -- THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE BUT WEREN'T REPORTED, I BELIEVE TO HOW IT MATCHES UP WITH YOUR SOURCES OF INCOME AND YOUR FORM ONE TO AVOID APPEARANCES OF CONFLICTS.

AGAIN, IT'S RARE. IT HAS TO MEET THE DEFINITION OF GIFT. IT'S NOT JUST ANYTHING OVER $100. HAS TO MEET THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF GIFT WHICH IS LOTS OF EXEMPTIONS FOR IT.

I CAN FOLLOW UP IF SCHOLARSHIP IS IN THERE.

>> OBVIOUSLY THIS ONE IS LIMITED TO ME INDIVIDUALLY.

NOT SPOUSES. >> I BELIEVE THIS WOULD INCLUDE SPOUSES AND IMMEDIATE FAMILY.

BUT HAS TO MEET THE DEFINITION OF GIFT --

>> THAT'S INTRUSIVE. >> I'VE NEVER SEEN A FORM FILED. IN OUR AGENCY THE REPORTABLE INDIVIDUALS HAVE NEVER HAD TO FILE ONE.

ANYTIME A QUESTION CAME UP WE ANSWERED AS DOESN'T MEET

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HERE'S WHERE IT CARVES OUT. YOUR SCHOLARSHIP EXAMPLE, I THINK WOULD BE ONE THAT WE WOULD SAY NOT A GIFT.

IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

>> I REALLY DON'T HAVE TO THROW OUT EVERYTHING FOR

THAT. >> CAN FOLLOW UP WITH SPECIFIC. I CAN SEND SPECIFIC RESPONSE. SITTING HERE, I WOULD GUESS

NO. >> I WOULD TAKE THE SCHOLARSHIP OVER THE GOLF PACK ANY DAY.

>> THAT'S MY THOUGHT. FOR INSTANCE, THEY DO BUSINESS WITH FPUA. I'M STARTING I'VE LISTED THOSE DOWN THERE. I'M WITHIN THE 90 DAYS.

GOSH THAT'S REALLY GETTING REALLY BROAD OUT THERE.

>> I FEEL LIKE SCHOLARSHIPS TOO.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GIFT. SHE HAS TO EARN THAT WHILE THERE. SHE HAS TO MEET CERTAIN THINGS. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S PHYSICALLY GOING DIRECTLY TO YOU.

>> EXACTLY. BEING AS BROAD AS COURTS HAVE BEEN. IT DOES SAVE YOU MONEY

>> THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE PROBABLY GIVEN TO THE SCHOOL THROUGH DONORS. THEY ARE DISTRIBUTING ENTITY. DAN COULD PROBABLY HELP US

FIGURE THAT OUT. >> I'M HAPPY -- I WOULDN'T TAKE LONG TO FOLLOW UP WITH E-MAIL LAYING OUT SPECIFICALLY WHY SKIPS. I THINK THE LINE OF THINKING WOULD ABY TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF GIFT.

THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH A SNIPPET OF WHY IT DOESN'T. I THINK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THAT WOULD FALL

IN LINE. >> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. THIS IS APPOINTED BOARD ACCEPT FOR ME. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE THE FOUR HOURS OF ETHICS.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> IT'S SUGGESTED BUT NOT

REQUIRED. >> THEY WOULDN'T CHECK I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GIVEN US FOUR HOURS OF EDUCATION.

MY SNIPPET CUT OFF. IT'S FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> THANK YOU. >> MISS BENNETT.

YOU HAD A QUESTION. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE MINISTERS. WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH FPUA AND THEY GIVE LIKE GIFTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO US ON A YEARLY BASIS. THEY HAVE LIKE ANNIVERSARIES FOR US. IS THAT CONSIDERED A GIFT

ALSO? >> THAT ONE WOULD BE FACT SPECIFIC. I WOULD NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC INSTANCES THAN JUST ANSWER HERE.

I'M HAPPY THE DO. I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO TALK OFF -- OUTSIDE ONE ON ONE.

NOT WITH TWO OR MORE MEMBERS.

ONE ON ONE, AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AND GET SPECIFICS.

ITS WILL BE REAL FACT SPECIFIC.

SOME MIGHT FALL INTO ACCEPTABLE BUT REPORTABLE.

I DOESN'T MEAN IT'S PROHIBITED.

JUST INSTANCES WHERE THEY WANT IT REPORTED VERSES WHAT MIGHT FALL INTO THE HARD-LINE OVER $100, CAN'T ACCEPT IT FROM THIS TYPE OF LOBBYIST.

EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T THINK OF THEM AS LOBBYIST.

I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT. >> I THINK, TOO, IF IT'S GIVEN TO CHURCH. THEN THE CHURCH GIVES YOU MONEY AND THAT MONEY IS RECORDED'S YOUR INCOME THAT'S DIFFERENT. YOU ARE SHOWING YOU'VE REPORTED THAT RESPOND BECAUSE IT HAS A PAYMENT FROM THE CHURCH OR WHATEVER. YOU GET AN A LOTMENT.

THAT'S NOT THE GIFT TO YOU. >> IT'S FACT SPECIFIC HOW THE TRANSACTION IS DONE. AND WHO THE PEOPLE ARE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S VERY ENLIGHTENING.

THANK YOU, DAN. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. WE HAVE A MEETING ANNUAL

[I. RESOLUTIONS:]

CONFERENCE NEXT WEEK. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST TO ADOPT RESOLUTION UA2022-15 FOR NEW BANK ACCOUNT WITH SEACOAST BANK TO MANAGE THE

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MICHELLE HARRIS WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HERE TO REQUEST ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION UA2022-15 FOR NEW BANK ACCOUNT SEACOAST BANK FOR THE PROCEEDS RECEIVED FROM THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS SERIES 2022-A AND 2022-B.

PROCEEDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SPENDOWN OF THE FUNDS AND REPORTING.

IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A BOND MEETING NEXT WEEK, AS WAS MENTIONED YOU LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT CALLED ARBITRAGE. YOU HAVE TO MONITOR THAT.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T LOOK HIGHLY UPON US ME INVESTING THAT AND GETTING HIGHER EARNINGS ON THAT. THE REPORTING HAS TO HAPPEN.

TYPICALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE WILL PROBABLY DO IT YEAR ONCE SINCE THIS ISSUE WANS. WE WILL DO IT YEAR ONE AND EVERY FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT. THERE'S PENALTIES IF QUESTION DON'T REPORT RIGHT. WE WANT TO KEEP THESE FUNDS SEGREGATED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR EASE OF THAT.

IT WILL HELP US WITH COMPLIANCE AND TRANSPARENCY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS

THEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE

BOARD? >> IS THIS BECAUSE IT'S TAX

DEDUCTIBLE? >> THE BONDS.

>> THE BONDS ARE TAX EXEMPT. IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT TOO.

WE WANT TO KEEP IT SEPARATE. THAT WAY EVERY MONTH WHEN WE'RE SPENDING THOSE DEBT FUNDED PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE REPORTING. WE WILL KNOW HOW MUCH WE SPEND. IN NEW ACCOUNT TO AND FROM THE SEPARATING ACCOUNT. IT WILL EASIER TO TRACK HOW

MUCH INTEREST AS WELL. >> EASIER TO CALCULATE.

> I DID THIS RECENTLY. IT MAKES SENSE.

>> WAY MORE TRANSPARENT. >> YEAH.

YEAH. >> WE WILL READ THE RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION 2022-15 FOR NEW BANK ASKED FOR PROCEEDS RECEIVED FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THE UTILITIES REVENUE BOND SERIES 2022-A.

AND 2022-B. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO

APPROVE? >> MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[J. DIRECTOR:]

>> MR. DIRECTOR. >> COUPLE OF ITEMS THIS AFTERNOON. THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL HOST FIRST MEETING TOMORROW.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN PERSON TO HAVE A QUORUM. THAT WILL BE EXCITING.

I FEEL LIKE I SAY THAT ALMOST EVERY MONTH.

I HOPE IT HAPPENS TOMORROW. EARLY THIS AFTERNOON JILL DIRECTED YOUR PACKET FOR THE CONFERENCE FOR NEXT WEEK.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

WE HAVE MYSELF, MR. RUTHERFORD AND HUTCHINSON, MR. CRAWFORD AND RACHEL ATTENDING THE CONFERENCE. YOU'LL HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN PARTNER WITH YOU IF YOU NEED TO.

IT'S A LOT GOING ON BUT THE IDEA THERE IS TO -- WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON. WE NEED AS MUCH -- IT'S ALSO THE FIRST TIME THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE ATTENDED THAT CONFERENCE. I DON'T THINK -- THE THINK THE MAYOR THE ONLY ONE THAT ATTENDED IN THE PAST.

YEAH IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. >> AND WE HAVE LOT OF IMPORTANT ITEMS TO DISCUSS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO UTILITY COST. PRETTY IMPORTANT CONFERENCE NEXT WEEK. AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING RACHEL WILL PRESENT A SUMMARY ON THE GRAND THAT WE ARE PURSUING. I KNOW RESILIENCE FLORIDA AND ANOTHER GRANT FOR BROADBAND OPENED UP THIS WEEK, I BELIEVE. PRETTY EXCITING.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE BOARD UP-TO-DATE AND ALSO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE WILL KEEP THE CITY COMMISSION UP-TO-DATE. I LIKE TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEW SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM ASSOCIATED.

SHE'S WORKING CLOSELY WITH RACHEL.

[K. ATTORNEY:]

>> ANY REPORT FROM THE ATTORNEY?

>> NO, BUT JUST QUICK OBSERVATION.

AS BAD AS THINGS WITH THE NATURAL GAS PRICES HERE THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS IN EUROPE IS 700%.

NOW THE COUNTRIES ARE IN A BIDDING WAR AGAINST EACH OTHER TRYING TO BANK NATURAL GAS FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THAT'S JUST CONTINUING TO DRIVE EVERYTHING SKY

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THE OTHER THING I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE BAHAMAS, AND THE CHEAPEST GALLON OF GAL GAS OVER THERE IS $7.50.

ONE SPOT WE HAD TO PAY $10. I SEE IT'S AROUND $4.40

HERE. >> DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY

[L. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS:]

BETTER, THOUGH. >> NO IT DOESN'T.

>> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO I SPOKE TO MR. CISNEROS ABOUT -- EDUCATION I SHOULD SAY FOR THE YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY AT TREASURE COAST ENERGY CENTER. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T SPOKE ABOUT IT RECENTLY. THERE HASN'T BEEN TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. IN RESPONSE TO RACHEL'S PRESENTATION TODAY, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE A GREAT WAY TO PARTNER WHO WE ARE, ESPECIALLY TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO OWN THAT PLANT OVER THERE. OR, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE THAT ARE MOVING THIS PLANT. AND ALSO WHAT'S GOING ON IN, YOU KNOW, HOW ENERGY IS CREATED.

AND YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT HAS NOT BEEN DOING THOSE. I THINK THIS OFFERS US A WAY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY INTO OUR DOORS.

AND YOU KNOW LET THEM BE PART OF OUR GROWTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING FMEA, YOU KNOW, HELPS WITH ORRIC IN. BUT OBVIOUSLY I KNOW IT'S RAN BY THEM OUT THERE. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A GREAT GATEWAY INTO LEARNING ABOUT THE UA.

>> THAT'S ONE OF MY INITIATIVES TO PARTNER UP WITH THE SCHOOLS. WHAT WE RAN INTO IS TIME JUST ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

WE'VE GIVEN RACHEL HELP. IT'S STILL A SMALL GROUP.

MOSTLY THE DIRECTORS AND SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING THERE.

THAT'S AN INITIATIVE. NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN PAST THE BONDS AND UTILITY RATE ADJUSTMENTS, I REALLY DO WANT TO PUSH REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO POSITIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WHICH COULD GO A LONG WAY.

YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'LL LOOK AT HOW THAT LOOKS

IN THE FUTURE. >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD

REQUEST. >> BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS A CUSTOMER. TEACHERS -- THE ONES THAT HAVE TO PAY THE BILL LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF

EDUCATION TOO. >> YEAH.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD POINT.

>> ALSO YOU COULD LOOK INTO THE STEM PROGRAM.

THAT WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM.

ON THE ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

>> YEAH. THAT'S A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION. ACTUALLY MR. HUTCHINSON AND I OVER THE LAST TEN YEARSOR SO.

WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO.

WE USED TO BE PART OF THE FLORIDA ENGINEERING SOCIETIES STEM PROGRAM OR LINCOLN PARK AND FT. PIERCE CENTRAL. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THOSE OUTREACH PROGRAMS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REVAMP. IT.

DOES TAKE SOMEONE FROM ORGANIZATION TO TAKE THE LEAD. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES.

LOTS YOU NEED A SPONSOR AT THE SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO HELP RALLY THE TROOPS. RALLY THE STUDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF FLORIDA ENGINEERING SOCIETY HAS DONE ANYTHING LATELY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ENGAGED WITH.

>> MOST SCHOOLS NOW ARE PUTTING THAT THROUGH THEIR STEM PROGRAM. AND THAT IS A RESOURCE.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF HELP ON THAT END.

>> RIGHT. >> AS WELL.

>> WE'LL MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGED

WITH THAT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

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