Jul 11, 2022 City Commission Budget Workshop

[1. Call to Order]

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>>MAYOR: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS OUR CONFERENCE AGENDA. WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET TODAY, MONDAY, JULY 11, 2022.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TH

[a. Presentation of Proposed FY 2022-2023 General Fund Budget, FPRA Budget and Enterprise Fund Budgets]

>> FIRST ITEM ON 9 AGENDA IS THE PROPOSED FY 2022-'23.

THE FPRA BUDGET AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND BUDGET.

. >>MAYOR: MR. MIMMS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MADAM MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. HOPE YOU RECEIVED THE BUDGET.

WE ANTICIPATE THIS WORKSHOP WILL LAST HALF OF A TE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PRESENTATIONS TO PRESENT TO YOU.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT OUR 2023 GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

A FUNDING UPDATE AND A NEW INITIATIVE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING COMING OUT OF THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION DIVISION.

ALSO OUR RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS EXPANSION A DISCUSSION ON CITY COMMISSION START TIMES AND SPONSORSHIP AND DONATION. GENE COMPRISING THE CURRENT MILLAGE RATE OF 6.900 AND INCLUDES REVENUE GENERATED FROM A 14.8% INCREASE IN PROPERTY EVALUATION.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS BALANCED OF THE STRATEGIC GOALS AND OBJE OBJECTIVES.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I WILL GET STARTED. AS MR. MIMMS HAS SAID, WE ARE PROPOSING A BALANCED BUDGET AT $52,412,646.

THIS IS A $4,899,150 OR 10.3% INCREASE FROM OUR FISCAL YEAR 2022. THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS BUDGET ARE, WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF OUR ESTIMATED TAXABLE VALUES WHICH ARE NOW AT 3,317,296,532. THIS IS A 14% INCREASE FROM THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. BECAUSE OF THAT AND OUR INCREASED EXPENDITURES AS WELL, WE ARE PROPOSING NO CHANGE IN THE MILLAGE RATE. OUR AD VALOREM IS # 2,114,262.

INCREASE OF $2,865,124. WE HAVE GONE IN ON OUR TAXES AND STATE REVENUES BASED ON THE ACTUALS AND THE TRENDS.

LAST FISCAL YEAR WE INCREASED THEM PACK TO WHERE WE HAD DECREASED THEM FOR COVID AND IS THIS YEAR WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE OF THOSE AS WELL AS OUR INCREASES FOR EXPENDITURE THAT ARE GOING TO RELATE TO THESE REVENUES.

WE INCREASED OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES BASED ON ACTUALS AND TRENDS. AND ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES ARE STREAM FROM THE VACATION RENTAL S. WE HAVE INCREASED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX REVENUE BY $400,000 THAT IS BASED ON THE ACTUALS AND THE TRENDS THERE IS AN INCREASE SO WE INCREASED OUR LINE ITEM. WE CONTINUED TO RESTRICT THE $600,000 IN THIS FISCAL YEAR OR THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 WHICH IS $400,000 FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND $200,000 FOR THE INTERFUND LOAN PAYMENT THE EXPENDITURES. THAT WAS THE REVENUES.

THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE SEEN OR REFLECT IN THIS BUDGET ARE 11

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TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS, ONE POLICE POSITION, THREE PUBLIC WORKS POSITIONS, AND ONE ENGINEERING POSITION.

IF YOU -- I WANTED TO EXPLAIN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE PERSONNEL COST ROSTER, THERE MAY BE INCREASES IN DEPARTMENTS; HOWEVER, THOSE POSITIONS WERE ADDED THIS FISCAL YEAR OR MAY HAVE BEEN SOME ELIMINATIONS.

THERE WAS ONE POSITION ADDED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S DIVISION THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT IS ALSO FUNDED BY FPRA.

THERE IS A FINANCE POSITION THAT WAS ADDED THIS FISCAL YEAR AS WELL A PLANNING DEPARTMENT POSITION THAT WAS ADDED AND THAT POSITION IS FUNDED BY IMPACT FEES.

THE ADMIN COST FOR THE IMPACT FEES.

THERE IS ONE PART-TIME POSITION ELIMINATED IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BY DIGS HAVEND TWO PART-TIME POSITIONS ELIMINATED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION. THERE IS A COST -- A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR ALL OF OUR BARGAINING AND NONBARGAINING EMPLOYEES AT -- THERE IS $1.22 OR 5% WHICHEVER IS HIGHER AND THE $1.22 STILL REMAINS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES EVEN WITH 5% WOULD STILL NOT BE AT THE $1.22.

SO WE ARE STILL MANDATED BY THE VOTED IN -- BY OUR VOTERS THAT BY 2025, ALL -- $15 AN HOUR IS THE BEGINNING MINIMUM WAGE.

IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE ARE DOING THE $1.22 ANNUALLY. THERE IS A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR OUR SWORN OFFICERS AS WELL.

WE ARE FUNDING THEIR CURRENT STEP PLAN.

AND THAT IS AT $701,759. AND ALSO AS NOTED, OUR POLICE BUDGET IS 33% OF OUR GENERAL FUND'S TOTAL BUDGET.

OUR RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION RATE FOR OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES DECREASED.10%. FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, IT INCR INCREASED.9% FOR OUR RATE.

HEALTH INSURANCE 8% INCREASE THAT IS SEEN IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL. FOR OUR DENTAL INSURANCE, A 10.6% DENTAL INSURANCE RATE INCREASE, AS WELL AS PROVIDER CHANGE THERE IS THE 10-POINT INCREASE IN OUR DENTAL INSURANCE. THE OPERATING BUDGETS FOR ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS WERE RE-EVALUATED AND LINE ITEMS ADJUSTED AS NEEDED SO THERE IS A $1.5 MILLION INCREASE IN THE OPERATING EXPENDITURE THAT'S YOU WILL SEE THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET.

BUT IT WAS ALL BASED ON THE INCREASED COST FOR DOING BUSINESS. EVERYTHING HAS INCREASED.

MAJOR AND MAIN THINGS ARE OUR FUEL COST AND ALL OF THEM ARE SEEN AND REFLECTED THIS FISCAL YEAR BY $395,575.

THE MAIN THING OUR 2010 SERIES WE MADE THE FINAL PAYMENT THIS FISCAL YEAR SO WE ARE DONE WITH THE 2010 SERIES.

AND THAT IS OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGETS, THE HIGHLIGHTS.

I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION.

>>MAYOR: WITH THE DECREASE IN THE DEBT PAYMENT.

WHAT IS OUR DEBT PAYMENT. WHERE ARE WE AT DEBT NOW IN THE

GENERAL FUND? >> WELL, GENERAL FUND AND FPRA COLLECTIVELY. I LOOKED AT THE COLLECTIVE.

WE ARE AT ABOUT $52 MILLION. >>MAYOR: LAST YEAR WAS $58 MILLION. NOW WE ARE DOWN TODAY 52

MILLION. >> DOWN TO 52 -- $52 MILLION.

>>MAYOR: I JUST WANT A ROUGH -- >> I AM LOOKING AND WORK WITH OUR DEBT PLACEMENT PROVIDER TO LOOK AT -- WE HAD A REMAINING

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>>MAYOR: THIS IS GREAT AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AND MAYBE MR. MIMMS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHEN WE FROZE THE HIRING IN 2020, WAS IT? THERE WERE -- WERE THOSE POSITIONS RETAINED? 2340ERDZ, HIRING WAS FROZEN SO YOU COULDN'T FILL THOSE POSITIONS. BUT ANY OF THOSE POSITIONS

ELIMINATED? >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WELL BACK -- BACK IN FY '20 AND I BELIEVE WE CARRIED THAT ON ON FY '# 1.

BUT AS FY '21 PROGRESSED WE BEGAN TO FILL POSITIONS.

NOT A SOLID ANSWER FOR EVERY POSITION BUT A HIRING FREEZE OF ALL POSITIONS, EXCEPT IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE. OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN PROGRESSIVELY FILLING THE NEEDS.

>>MAYOR: AS FAR AS YOU REMEMBER WE DIDN'T ELIMINATE IN ANY OF

THOSE POSITIONS? >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE MAY NOT HAVE LIMITED OR ELIMINATED ANY OF THEM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: JUST TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I GUESS I NEVER KNOW HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THE CITY HAS BETWEEN FPRA AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY DO YOU HAVE -- FIRST OF ALL, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS RIGHT NOW PROPOSED? AND HOW DOES IT RELAY LATE TO THE LAST FEW YEARS?

>> WELL, OUR CURRENT BUDGETED NUMBER IS 322 IN OUR GENERAL FUND. OUR CURRENT BUDGETED NUMBER.

THOSE ARE -- WE DO HAVE SEVERAL ON-FIELD POSITIONS WITHIN THAT, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE BUDGETED IT AT 322.

THEN AS IT RELATES TO PRIOR YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN UNDER THIS NUMBER. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE SOMEWHAT -- WE GRADUALLY HAVE BEEN INCREASING, I'LL SAY, FROM MAYBE 2015, 2016, UP UNTIL NOW GRADUALLY, BUT WE DID HAVE BETWEEN 2009 AND 2012, VOLUNTARY SEPARATION WHERE WE GOT RID OF -- MAYBE 40 EMPLOYEES OR SO FROM OUR -- COLLECTIVELY FROM ENTERPRISE FUNDS AS WELL AND WE HAVE THAT GREAT REDUCTION.

WE HAVE REMAINED FROM THAT POINT UP UNTIL NOW WITH MORE AND MORE ADDED RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT PROGRESSIVELY ADDING STAFF AND GET TO THE PAINT WHERE WE HAVE ALL THESE NEW MANDATES AND ALL THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS AND WE ARE HAVING TO INCREASE THE STAFFING LEVEL IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH IT.

WE HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF DOING SO MUCH MORE WITH LESS AND WORKING STAFF AND OURSELVES TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE ALMOST ABOUT TO BREAK. SO IT IS TO THE POINT WHERE WE GOT TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. AND MR. MIMMS AND STAFF HAVE, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFIED THAT AND PROGRESSIVELY ADDED POSITION TO

ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE -- HOW MANY

EMPLOYEES MAKE UP THAT 322? >> THERE ARE 165 THIS CURRENT

YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: ABOUT A

HALF. >> YEAH.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: JUST IMPORTANT TO PSALM WHAT THAT IS AND RELATES TO MANY DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OF THE CITY INCLUDING RETIREMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING THOSE NUMBERS. AND THERE ARE NEW THINGS SINCE 2009 AND '10, '11 AND '12, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, A NEW WORLD AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE -- THOSE POSITIONS NEVER EVEN EXISTED BACK THEN AND THEY DO AND THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS.

. >>MAYOR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND? OKAY.

PROCEED. >> OKAY.

WE WILL BRIEFLY DO OUR FPRA BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND TOMORROW AT THE FPRA MEETING, WE WILL GET MORE IN-DEPTH VIEW OF OUR BUDGET, BUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET FOR FPRA IS NOW 9,388,680, AN INCREASE OF $1,756,97 # 5.

OF THAT THE AD VALOREM TAX IS 9,171,680.

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THERE IS ONE POSITION THAT I DID REFERENCE EARLIER THAT IS BEING FUNDED IN GENERAL FUNDS. AND THIS IS THE ONE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHICH IS THE REDEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST POSITION. WE CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE THE $350,000 FOR THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

WE ARE CONTINUING THE $450,000 TRANSFER TO SUNRISE THEATRE.

THIS YEAR WE ARE INCREASING THE TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FROM THE $500,000 TO THE $600,000 THAT WE ARE DOING ANNUALLY AND DECREASE

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: TOMORROW AS WE GO OVER THE PROJECT AND GO OVER THE OPERATION. .

>>MAYOR: ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE FPRA BUDGET? PROCEED. PROCEED.

>> WE LOOK AT OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS WHICH ARE OUR SPENDING PLANS THAT WE ARE APPROVING OR YOU WILL BE APPROVING.

WE HAVE OUR MARINA INCREASING THE BUDGET I $417,000.

SOLID WASTE, AN INCREASE OF $239 $239,428. OR GOLF COURSE A $77,730 INCREASE. FOR OUR SUNRISE, THEY ARE DECREASING THE BUDGET $238,785. AND I WILL ALSO SAY JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE SUNRISE. THE SECOND TIME SINCE 2012 THAT THE SUNRISE THEATRE IS POSITIVE. THAT'S GREAT.

I WANT TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT AND YOU WILL BE PLEASED BUT THEY ARE

POSITIVE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU DON'T GET

TO SAY THAT OFTEN. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: USE YOUR

YELLOW CRAYON. >> OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT $566,532. OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, SIX NEW POSITION THAT ARE BEING ADDED. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS ADDING FIVE. AND THE SUNRISE THEATER IS ADDING ONE POSITION. THAT IS THE THEATRE WHAT IS IT, FACILITIES MANAGER, YES. SO BEFORE WE GO TO SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR ENTERPRISE FU FUNDS?

>>MAYOR: I HAVE A QUESTION. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE A STAND ALONE. IT HAS TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.

>> CORRECT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I GOT AN E-MAIL. YOU GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THE TREASURE COAST BUILDERS ASSOCIATION ASKING QUESTIONS OF SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS, THE TRAVEL, THE SOFT WARE, THE MISCELLANEOUS, THE OFFICE AND THE ADMIN.

ARE YOU PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE?

>> WHAT YOU LOOKED AT WAS THE FISCAL 2022, NOT THE '23.

LOOKING AT IT SHE USED THE 2022 NUMBERS OPPOSE TO THE NEW NUMBERS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE NEW NUMBERS. LAST YEAR SHE DID ASK THOSE NUMBERS AND WE DID ANSWER THOSE CODES.

I AM ASSUMING ONCE SHE SEES THE 2023 BUDGET, SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, SO IF THERE ARE POWERBALL IS HERE AND CAN ANSWER

THE BUDGET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THAT ALL RIGHT FOR THE COMMISSION? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR -- SHE WAS CHALLENGING THEM. I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT LAST YEAR OPPOSE TO THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR OPPOSED

TO NEXT YEAR. >>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I DID NOT RECEIVE THAT E-MAIL AND I AM BLIND HERE.

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>> TRAVEL, SOFT WARE, MISCELLANEOUS, OFFICE AND ADMIN.

SO PAUL, MR. THOMAS. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL BE GLAD TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE COPIED.

>> LAST FISCAL YEAR WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HE AND MYSELF AND SHE RAISED SIMILAR QUESTIONS AND I HAD TO EXPLAIN IN ORDER FOR US TO PRESENT A BALANCED BUDGET.

RIGHT NOW THE GREATEST TIMES IN CONSTRUCTION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE CITY. AND OUR REVENUES ARE HIGH, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET JUST SAYING YOUR REVENUE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN YOUR EXPENDITURES.

IN ORDER TO PRESENT A BALANCED BUDGET, CERTAIN AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INCREASE TO ACCOMMODATE TO SHOW THAT IT IS BALANCED IN THE PRESENTATION. CERTAIN AREAS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, $1 MILLION IN TRAVEL. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND $1 MILLION IN TRAVEL, SO WHERE ELSE DO YOU PUT IT --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU ONLY PROPOSED $25,000.

>> YES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY REASONABLE. DONNA WAS WRITE.

SHE WAS COMPARING THIS YEAR'S NUMBERS TO LAST YEAR.

>> OBVIOUSLY A NEED TO GROW TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH.

A LOT OF IT TURNS INTO -- FOR INSTANCE AS FAR AS THE REVENUES FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR 2023, IF THE SURF PARK IS REALIZED, THAT IS A HUGE SOURCE OF REVENUE AT THE SAME TIME, THE KINGS LANDING PROJECT.

IF IT IS RECOGNIZED IN 2023. >>MAYOR HUDSON: A BIG INFLUX OF

CASH. >> AT THE SAME TIME MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT WHICH IS REALLY A SURPRISE FOR EVERYONE. IF ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS COME IN ONE YEAR, NORMALLY A PROJECT THAT WOULD COME EVERY TEN YEARS. IF THEY COME IN ONE YEAR, YOU

HAVE AN UNBALANCED BUDGET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT.

ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND A HALF A MILLION IN SOFTWARE, MAYBE?

>> WE MAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: $100,000 IN

MISCELLANEOUS. >> MISCELLANEOUS IS ALWAYS

MISCELLANEOUS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: KIND OF YOUR BACK-UP FUND. AND $145,000 IN OFFICE EXPENSE AND $430 MILLION IN ADMIN EXPENSE.

THOSE ARE EXPENSES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE AS BACK-UP FOR

WHATEVER YOU NEED. >> POTENTIALLY.

SOME OF THEM ARE CHARGED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

MISS LYNNIOUS IS NOT A CHARGE WE DO BUT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU ARE NOT CONTROLLED OF ALL OF THAT.

>> NO. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOT IT.

>> WE HAVE CLIENTS -- ONCE WE GET THE TYLER SYSTEM IN PLACE, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH MORE WITH NO PAPER.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GET RID OF -- WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE OUR SET-UP SO SMALLER CUBES WE CAN ACCOMMODATE MORE PERSONNEL.

DEFINITELY THERE ARE INCREASES FOR THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHICH

WE ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE YOU ALLOWED STATUTORILY TO

CONTRIBUTE TO THE GENERAL FUND? >> ONLY ADMINISTRATIVELY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GLAD YOU WILL BE A WASH AND CASH.

>> ONLY FOR A LIMITED TIME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DON'T SPEND IT ALL IN ONE YEAR BECAUSE IN FUTURE YEARS YOU WILL NEED IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TO EXPLAIN THE INCREASED COST OF ADMIN. WHEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT MOVED OVER TO THE NEW SPACE THEY ARE -- WHERE THEY ARE WE CHANGED THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT THE COST WAS AND STAND ALONE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: PAY HIGHER RENT?

>> HIGHER RENT. AND THE INCREASE FOR THE ONE POSITION -- ONE OF THE POSITIONS IN IT, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE GOING TO FUND THAT, YOU KNOW, A PORTION OF THAT.

SO THERE IS A $25,000 INCREASE IN THEIR ADMIN COST THAT'S WILL GO TO GENERAL FUND TO FUND THATIT POSITION THAT WILL WORK SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SUNRISE THEATRE AND THE INSURANCE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT ONE OF OUR RECENT

CONFERENCE AGENDAS. >> WE ARE CURRENTLY AWAITING THE BREAKDOWN IN LIABILITY THAT IS BEING USE UTILIZED BY OUR CARRIER FROM FLORIDA LEAGUE. AND TIMES PAST AND CURRENTLY HOW WE DISTRIBUTE THE TOTAL COST OF THAT.

SAY WE ARE CHARGING AN ANNUAL COST OF $900,000 FOR OUR GENERAL LIABILITY. WE HAVE IN THE PAST TAKE TON FROM THE ASSET VALUE FOR THE SPECIFIC DIVISION.

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FIXED ASSETS HAVE A COST OF $42 MILLION.

RIGHT NOW SUNRISE ASSETS ARE ABOUT $16 MILLION, $17 MILLION.

WE TAKE COLLECTIVELY ALL THE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING CHARGED WITHIN THAT MARINA STAND-ALONE. THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT DISTRIBUTION. AND WE TAKE THE PORTIONS OF THAT AND WE DISTRIBUTE BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE ASSET VALUE IS. SO BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE ASSET AND WHAT WE ARE BEING CHARGED THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTIVELY CHARGING IT. AND MR. MIMMS AND I HAD DISCUSSION, AND WHAT I AM SAYING WHAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO DO SO EVERYONE WILL SEE AND KNOW, WE WILL DO A REQUEST FOR QUOTES ON IT BASED ON THE CURRENT VALUE AND REPLACEMENT COST.

IN LOOKING AT IT -- A GOOD THING TO DO BECAUSE EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SEE. WE HAVE OUR -- DEAN HAD THE SAME ISSUE. HE -- THE COST WAS INCREASING SO WE ALLOWED HIM TO, AS WELL, DO A REQUEST FOR QUOTES AND AS A RESULT, THE PRICE INCREASED. AND IT WAS GOOD FOR US TO SEE WAT HE WAS BEING CHARGED -- HE WASN'T BEING OVERCHARGED.

SO I KNOW WE HAD SOME INITIAL QUOTES; HOWEVER, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE VALUE -- THE REPLACEMENT VALUE AND ALL, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERED ENOUGH.

SECURE RECENTLY ONE OF THE STATEMENTS ON CONTENT REPLACEMENT ONLY $250,000. IF THE WINDOW BLOWS OUT, WE CAN'T REPLACE THE FOYER FOR $250,000.

SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INSURED IN VALUE ENOUGH COVER WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW.

WE WILL DO SOME RFQS FOR QUOTES TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE BASED ON WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY BEING CHARGED.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO THE REASON -- THE REASONING FOR NOT LOWERING THE MILLAGE RATE OR MILLAGE RATE IS COLLECTIVELY, WOULD YOU SAY FUEL PRICE INCREASE, HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE, CAR ALLOWANCES YOU ARE INCREASING.

YOU ARE PROPOSING THAT. AND WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION COST. AND WE KNOW ALL COSTS -- AND ALSO, I NOTICED THAT YOU DID INCREASE THE -- THE UTILITIES BECAUSE THAT IS -- BECAUSE THE NATURAL GAS PRICES ARE NOW SO HIGH THAT ALL THE UTILITIES THAT RUN THEIR UTILITY -- THAT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY FROM NATURAL GAS STATES TOO BECAUSE.

>> IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD. CONTRACTUALLY, OUR OFFICE SUPPLIES, OUR CLEANING SUPPLIES. THERE IS AN INCREASE OF EVERYTHING. LIKE WE SEE IN OUR OWN PERSONAL

FINANCE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT.

>> IF IT IS INCREASING FOR US AS INDIVIDUALS, IT IS TEN TIMES FOR US AS A MUNICIPALITY TO COVER ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

TO HELP PAY FOR THAT, WE GOT TO REMAIN WHERE WE ARE.

AND BECAUSE, LIKE WE SAID -- AND WE SAID EARLIER, PRIOR YEARS, WE NEVER CHANGED OUR MILLAGE RATE, AND AS A RESULT, WE LAGGED IN REVENUE. WHERE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE LUXURY OF DECREASING THEIR MILLAGE RATE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SEEING -- MUCH GREATER INCREASES IN THEIR VALUES AND THEY ARE LOWERING BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL RECEIVING PROPORTIONATE TO US WAY MORE REVENUE, BUT IN TIMES WHEN WE MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESCALATING UPWARD, WE REMAINED CONSTANT AND STEADY TO HELP OUR CITIZENS YOU KNOW ABSORB THAT AND AS A RESULT WE PAID FOR THAT.

NOW COMES TO A POINT IF WE HAVE A FUNCTION AND GIVE OUR CITIZENS THE QUALITY OF SERVICE THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING, WE GOT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, OUR MILLAGE RATE IN ORDER TO GAIN THE REVENUE TO PAY

FOR THESE SERVICES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS THE BIGGEST REVENUE INCREASE THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED SINCE I HAVE

BEEN14.8%. >> IT IS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF AND HAPPY ABOUT.

AND I THINK OUR CITIZENS MAY BE EXPECTING US TO ROLL BACK THE TAX RATE. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD STORY TO TELL THEM WHY WE ARE KEEP IT AT WHAT IT IS

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DONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR -- >> WE LOOK AT OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS WHICH IS OUR GRANT FUNDS.

FOR OUR POLICE GRANTS, DECREASE $429,424.

THE FPRA, THE FIVE POSITIONS ON THE COPS HIRING, DECREASE OF $13,226. THE CDBG INCREASE OF $70,215.

JUST TO SAY IN OUR CDBG AND SHIP ALLOCATION.

MAINLY OUR SHIP ALLOCATION, AN INCREASE WE SEE IN OURDIS TRIPOLLUTION; HOWEVER, WE ARE DECREASING BY 24,642 ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT -- THE REMAINING ALLOCATIONS FINALLY UTILIZING FUND AND GRANTS 130,000 INCREASE AND THAT IS A RESULT OF SELLING PROPERTIES.

WE HAVE THE LIENS ON THE PROPERTIES FOR THE LOANS.

AS THEY ARE BEING SOLD, THEY HAVE TO SATISFY THE LOANS AND AS A RESULT WE HAVE ADMIN MONEY THAT WILL GO BACK INTO THE PROGRAM TO HELP FUND ADDITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAMS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: WE SUPPORT PUBLIC WORKS.

YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TAKE THEIR MONEY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT WOULD SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND. I REMEMBER THE MAYOR AND I WERE PART OF THE COMMISSION WHERE WE WERE GOING THE OTHER WAY AND TRYING TO ALWAYS MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THOSE DEPARTMENTS LIKE PUBLIC WORKS KEEP THE IS IT I IN A GOOD POSTURE IN TERMS OF KEEP PG THE CITY CLEAN. PICKING UP THE GARBAGE --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE NOW KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: -- WE NOW KNOW IS A BIG DEAL AND IT GETS EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU DON'T PREPARE FOR THOSE AND DON'T GO TO SUPPORT THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO GO FORWARD. OF NOT LOWERING THE MILLAGE RATE BUT TO HELP KEEP UP THE GROWTH OF ALL THE ACTIVITIES HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME. WE DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE. I THINK THAT SHOWS THE FACT THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A COMMISSION AS LEADERSHIP IN THIS COMMUNITY AND VERY APPROPRIATE IN PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN THOSE TYPE OF POSTURES.

>> I THINK ONE THING TO ADD AS WELL.

DURING THOSE TIMES WHEN WE WERE VERY FISCALLY CHALLENGED, A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP ARE NEGLECTED.

AND WE ARE PROGRESSING FORWARD, WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE GOT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND SOME OF THOSE -- WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS AND CAPITAL NEEDS THAT ARE NOW BEING ADDRESSED. FOR ONE, AS YOU WERE SAYING WITH SOLID WASTE. WELL, THAT THAT FOR SO LONG JUST TRYING TO REMAIN.

AND SO TO HELP ADDRESS THAT AND KEEP THE SERVICES AS THEY ARE, WE ARE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU CAN ORDER THE TRUCKS, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO GET THEM. [LAUGHTER]

EXACTLY, EXACTLY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER CONVERSATION, ANY? ALL RIGHTY.

>> OKAY. AS FAR AS POSITION-BUCKEYES, THERE IS ONE POSITION THAT IS ADD TO POLICE GRANTS AND THAT IS A VICTIMS ADVOCATE INDIVIDUAL. AND THERE WAS ONE ADMIN POSITION ADDED TO CDBG AND ADDED THIS FISCAL YEAR AND IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. THOSE ARE OUR HEIGHTS FROM OUR BUDGET. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE

WILL ADDRESS THOSE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY -- ANYBODY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, THE JOHNSONS ARE GOING TO SPEAK. GOING FIRST, CURTIS.

LISTENING HERE. AND I THINK -- EVERYBODY IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE MILL AND THE SURPLUS.

BUT AS I HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND

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AND OVERALL, I THINK MR. MIMMS, I THINK YOUR ADMINISTRATION AS YOU BEGIN TO -- THE ONE THING THAT THE PUBLIC PSALMS AND SEES IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO. AND THING THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THAT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. AS THEY SEE THEIR COMMUNITY BECOME CLEANER AND THE COMMUNITY MORE RESPONSIVE TO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE BUDGET IS JUST THAT.

WE PUT MONEY IN CERTAIN BUDGETS FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES THAT MAY ARISE. AND WE ARE AT THAT HORIZON NOW THAT WE ARE GOING INTO THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT SO WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT TWO TO THREE MONTHS WHICH IS A TOUGH TIME OF YEAR FOR US HERE. SO TO THE PUBLIC, I THINK THAT AS WE BEGIN TO IDENTIFY THOSE -- THOSE CHALLENGES IN OUR COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO TRASH PICKUP AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY CLEAN, KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, AND DOING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND A BUDGET THAT REFLECTS THAT AND TO MAKE IT SIMPLER. WE GET HERE AND BEHIND THE NUMBERS AND FROM A BUDGET DIDN'T FROM A LAYPERSON, THEY ARE WORRIED OF A FEW THINGS. AND THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET.

YOU START ROLLING BACK AND THEN THINGS START FALLING SHORT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE MONEY TO PAY HERE OR THERE AND IT BECOMES A PROBLEM AT SOME POINT. MOST PEOPLE WHO BALANCE ANY TYPE OF BUDGET AT HOME PSALM THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE ESSENTIAL THINGS.

AND THEY ARE ESSENTIAL THINGS IN OUR BUDGET.

YES, SIR. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

WE, AS A CITY, THROUGH YOUR LEADERSHIP, HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THAT VERY AGGRESSIVE STRAW TEE URGY PLAN WAS BROUGHT TO THE BUDGET MEETINGS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE BUDGET OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS MET AND WHAT YOU HAVE DETERMINED FROM THE INPUT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS POURED INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE

HAVE BUILT OUR BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: RIGHT.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT OUR CITY IS GROWING BY ROOFTOPS AND PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT REQUIRES FOR EQUIPMENT AND MORE STUFF TO SERVICE THAT, AND IT STRESSES THE STUFF WE ALREADY HAVE HERE. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WHILE YOU MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY SEE THAT OUT THERE, WE ARE DOING IT EACH AND EVERY MONDAY, EACH AND EVERY OTHER MONDAY. WE ARE SAYING NO BUILDINGS COMING. MORE STRUCTURES BEING BUILT.

MORE PEOPLE FINDING FORT PIERCE AS A CITY TO LIVE IN AND MORE HOUSES GOING UP. STUFF WE HAVE TO SERVICE AND PROVIDE THE TYPE OF SERVICES THAT PEOPLE WANT AND DESERVE WHEN THEY PAY THEIR TAXES IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT WE -- WE CHUN KATE THIS. NOT -- WE COMMUNICATE THIS.

NOT TELLING A STORY BUT COMMUNICATING THE FACTS.

WHEN YOU ARE STUCK IN YOUR PARTICULAR POINT OF VIEW, YOU ARE STUCK IN YOUR VIEW. WE ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM A HOLISTIC DIDN'T I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF 48,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO WE COMMUNICATE TO THE PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT ROADS, TRASH PICKUP, SAFETY PUBLIC PARKS THIS HE WANT TO RECREATE IN, ALL ARE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WE WANT THE COMMUNICATION RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE TO THEY

PSALM THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONERJ.

JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND YOU TOUCHED ON THE POINTS I WANTS TO TALK ABOUT. COMMUNICATION ASPECT.

LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THINKING BACK OF THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OR -- BIRTHDAYS WITHIN THE CITY OF 100 YEARS OLD, RIGHT.

1920 A LOT OF PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE 100 YEARS AGO AND WE TALKED OF A FEW OF THOSE THINGS UP HERE AND START THINKING OF THE '70S AND '80S.

HOW MUCH PROGRESSION AS A CITY AND A COMMUNITY TO THINK OF HOW MANY BUILDINGS WERE BUILT IN THOSE TIME FRAMES.

IT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NU

NUMBER. >>MAYOR HUDSON: STILL STANDING.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: STILL STANDING, EVEN THE 100-YEAR-OLD ONES. I WAS THINKING ABOUT -- TO PUT A HISTORY PERSPECTIVE ON THE BUDGET WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND ON MY GLASSES THAT I AM LOOKING THROUGH. I START TO THINK.ARE WE THERE AGAIN ANOTHER 50-YEAR INCREMENT WHERE TECHNOLOGY IS GRABBING A

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WE ARE SEEING FOLKS MOVE HERE ON THE TREASURE COAST.

WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE MOVE HERE TO THE CITY OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE. TIME AND TIME AGAIN, OUR CITY IS GROWING. GOING BACK TO INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS. WE ARE GETTING READY TO TALK ABOUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY NONEXISTENT FOR MANY YEARS -- AND TOO MANY YEARS.

I AM MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE AS A BUDGET IN TALKING TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WITHIN THE CITY.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR ASPECTS.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A COMMISSION. WE REALLY PUT A LOT OF FOCUS AND EFFORT INTO JUST CREATING STRATEGIES TO CHANGE WHAT WE USED TO DO. AND I THINK THIS COMMISSION HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AT THAT. AND STAFF HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF TAKING LITTLE AND MAKING IT A LOT.

SO I AM COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THE BUDGET SITS.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH EACH DEPARTMENT AND THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD. I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE MILLAGE RATE. AS MUCH AS I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR CHANGE THAT THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, I STARTED FOCUSING IN ON WHAT THE BENEFITS OF THE MONIES WE ARE INVESTING TODAY ARE GOING TO BE. THAT LED ME TO MY STORY AND WHY I AM STICK TO IT AND I AM OKAY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

GAINES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR AND THE COMMISSION. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP REAL QUICKLY ON WHAT OUR COMMISSIONER SAID, BUT THE ONE THING THAT I WANT US TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE ON THE I.T.

PART. WE SO QUICK TO -- WE SO QUICK TO GET A BUILDING, GET A PROJECT GOING AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN WE COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WELL, I.T., CATCH UP WITH US. WE NEED TO START THINKING THAT AND COMMISSIONER JON YOU JUST SAID THAT, TECHNOLOGY.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE WE START THESE NEW PROJECTS AND NEW BUILDINGS AND ALL THAT, WE WANT THIS ONE FORT PIERCE CONNECTED.

WE NEED TO START THINKING, OKAY, DO WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY? DO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES? DO WE HAVE EVERYTHING TO HOOK IT U UP? IT IS EASY TO BE DONE BUT YOU GO TO THE IDEA DEPARTMENT AND ASK HOW CAN WE DO IT. THEY ARE LIKE WHY DIDN'T YOU COME TO US FOUR MONTHS AGO TO BE A PART OF IT.

SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO CONNECT ALL OF FORT PIERCE TECHNOLOGY.

SO LET'S START THINKING OF -- USING YOUR HE TENGINEER AND STA THINKING OF IT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS GOING ON, I WOULD RATHER BE PROACTIVE AND GET THEM AT THE TABLE TO SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN YOU DO OR WHAT DO YOU NEED THAN INSTEAD OF PRESENTING THEM WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SAYING WE NEED YOU TO -- TO HOOK US UP. THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING BECAUSE THIRD DEGREE FOLLOWING THIS IS COMING AND ALL WE ARE DOING NOW -- EVERYONE YOU GO -- EVERYWHERE YOU GO, CITIES ARE TECHNOLOGIES.

THESE CHIPS, THESE CHIPS, THESE CHIPS.

W NEED TO KEEP IN MIND GET OUR I.T. GUYS ON BEFORE WE START

ALL THESE PROJECTS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA I THINK BECAUSE I KIND OF NOW KNOW WHAT MR. MIMMS' LIFE IS LIKE.

[LAUGHTER] AND EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HEAD HAD A GOOD STORY TO TELL. THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THEIR AREA. SO MANY OF THEM FEEL LIKE THEY NEED MORE STAFF AND RESOURCES. SO I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAD MANY MORE REQUESTS THAN YOU WERE ABLE TO GRANT ALWAYS AS PROBABLY EVERY YEAR THE SAME WAY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING THAT ABILITY TO LOOK INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS' POINT OF VIEW. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS IMPRESSED ABOUT WAS, THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE ANY.

SEEMED TO BE A FEELING WE ARE ALL ONE.

NO ONE WAS COMPETING WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, BAD MOUTHING ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, FEELING THAT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WASN'T PULLING THEIR OWN WEIGHT. WHEN OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING, THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS SEEMED TO BE WILLING TO HELP TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

I FEEL WHEN WE TALK OF ONE FORT PIERCE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ON MANY LEVELS AND ONE IS THEM WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP MR. MIMMS, ALL

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I AM GOING TO SPEAK FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THAT THE FIVE OF US ARE WORKING WELL AND ON A TEAM -- EVEN THOUGH POLITICS ARE NOT A TEAM SPORT -- WE DEAL WITH ONE ANOTHER CIVILLY AND DEAL WITH ONE ANOTHER RATIONALLY AND WE DIFFER AND GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS. AND I THINK THE STAFF SEES THAT AND SAYS THIS IS A TEAM WORTH WORKING TOGETHER FOR.

SO I FELT VERY GOOD WITH THE CITY AND EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HEAD -- AFTER I WOULD LEAVE, I WOULD WORRY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I WWOULD OF ALL THE CHALLENGES THY HAVE AND I THINK ONE THING THAT MAYBE OUR CITIZENS DON'T REALIZE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DEEP BENCH IN ANY DEPARTMENT WE DON'T HAVE A DEEP BENCH.

AND WE -- AND -- SO I THINK THAT -- THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THIS BUDGET IS PROBABLY NECESSARY AND MAYBE IT SHALL AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH, AS YOU SAID.

THE PROPOSED GROWTH. I DO HAVE A REAL SMALL TECHNICAL TO ASK AFTER I GET OFF OF ALL THESE LOFTY STATEMENTS.

ON PAGE 34, IS THE -- IS A PAPER COPY.

NOW IS THE -- IS THE PUBLIC -- THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON IN THAT, THAT IS AN EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.

IS HE WORKING FOR NOTHING? >> NO HE IS HOUSED IN SOLID WASTE. SO SOLID WASTE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: ALL VOLUNTEERS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FORGET ABOUT HIM.

>> IT. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: THAT WAS THE CURRENT NAME. RIVERWALK --.

IT WAS THE PEOPLE. >>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: LOOKING DEEPER INTO THE BUDGET AND WE WILL HAVE A JOINT MEET WITH THE CAP HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND LOOKING AT THE HOUSING ASSESSMENT AND THE CONTRACT WE HAVE.

AND LOOKING AT -- THE PERSON -- THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY RESIDES IN THAT DISTRICTS 1 BOUNDARY OF OUR CITY LIMITS. I THINK WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE. THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED AND WHAT IS COMING IN THAT WAY.

WE REALIZE THAT THE BUDGET IS UP, BUT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MEET WITH THE THOUSANDING AUTHORITY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED THAT THE, BUT I AM CONCERNED WHEN I SAW THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST PUT THAT ON RECORD SO WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO I DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION BUT A LOT OF SERVICES GOING FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THAT AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS HERE ON THIS LINE ITEM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION -- I HAD IT WITH MR.

MIMMS ALSO. >>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WANT TO YOU KNOW AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEET WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND MR. MIMMS, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: ON THAT POINT, IT IS WISE FOR US TO FIND OUT -- I DON'T THINK WE ARE THE ONLY ONE DEALING WITH THIS.

I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY DEALS WITH THE SUBJECT MATTERS.

GOT TO BE BETTER PRACTICES FOR THIS AND WHAT MUNICIPALITIES DO ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, HOW THEY HANDLE THIS TYPE OF THING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T HAVE IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE EXPANDING A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR W WHAT. WHAT WE ARE RESAVING IN AND DEALING WITH LOW INCOME AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL NOT BE COMPENSATING FOR ALL THE SERVICES.

BUT DEFINITELY ANY SEVERE -- OR STRONG REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO OFFER. BUT IF WE SHOULD GET A HANDLE ON

BEST PRACTICES AS FAR AS -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: AS FAR AS THE

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WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT IN YEARS BUT WE NEED TO.

>>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. IS THAT THE END OF YOUR SHOW?

>> THE END OF MY SHOW. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WELL-DONE.

[b. Proposed FY 2022-2023 Capital Improvement Program]

THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE PROPOSED FY 2022-'23 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

MR. MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER THAT WILL PRESENT OUR 2023 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHTING THE CURRENT PROJECTS AND PROJECTS UPCOMING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. ANDREWS, WELCOME.

>> MORNING, MAYOR, COMMISS COMMISSIONERS. I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF THIS MORNING WITH SOME OF OUR -- SOME OF OUR COMPLETED -- RIGHT OFF THE FRONT, WE COMPLETED THE PORPOISE BEACH PARKING LOT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, YOU DID, BEAUTIFUL.

>> MAYBE A YEAR OFF THE TRACK TH

THERE. >> DON'T WORRY ABOUT ALL THAT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TELL US THAT SORT OF

STUFF, JACK. >> I THINK WE MADE A VERY GOOD SHOWING AND THE COUNTY WAS HAPPY WITH THAT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.

>> SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE DID.

OUR FIFTH STREET COMPLETION BETWEEN BOSTON AND DELAWARE.

STILL HAVE A FEW LITTLE ITEMS. WE HAD DIFFICULTY WITH OUR -- ONE OF OUR UTILITY PARTNERS. COMCAST WAS LITTLE SLOW GETTING OFF OF THEIR POLES. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AREAS OF SIDEWALKS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED, AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO COMPLETING THAT. STREET RESURFACING.

WE DID A FAIR AMOUNT IN YEAR OR THIS PAST YEAR.

WE HAVE NEW PROJECTS COMING UP LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER FOR OUR NEXT RESURFACING PROGRAM. PAYMENT MARKINGS AT $36,000 WAS TOWARD INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, STRIPE IT FROM CITRUS TO

SAVANNAH ROAD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT WHEREVER THAT IS DONE.

>> PICTURES SHOW HERE OUR INDIAN HILLS TRAIL THROUGH THE INDIAN TRAILS, RECREATION AREA NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE OF SAVANNAH ROAD. EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY WITH THAT.

THE GREENWAY TRAILS WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IN FACT, THEY RECENTLY DEDICATED THIS TO BE AN PART OF THE GREENWAY'S TRAIL. IN FACT LAST WEEK THEIR BOARD VOTED ON IT THIS WAS AN INITIAL PART OF IT.

OUR UPCOMING STREET RESURFACING THE 662, $100,000 WORTH.

AND I KNOW WE HAD WANTED TO SHOOT RIGHT AROUND THE $800,000 MARK. THIS COUPLE WITH THE -- WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAMS BROUGHT US RIGHT IN THAT $800,000 RANGE. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PART.

THE STREETS THAT WOULD JUST BE MILLED AND RESURFACED AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BOTTOM OF THIS LIST OF RAISED INTERSECTION.

THAT WILL BE THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT -- OR PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ON BENNY AND FAIRWAY DRIVE.

8TH STREET, CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

LOOK TO DO THE STARTING DRAINAGE NEXT WEEK.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THIS WRAPPED UP PROBABLY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. THAT SECTION.

AVENUE B AND BEACH COURT ARE TWO PROJECTS WE HAVE ADVERTISED FOR BID. WE HAVE RECEIVED BIDS.

WE HAVE AWARDED THOSE AND WE ARE JUST GETTING THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE. AND THE TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS -- CONTRACTORS WILL START ON THOSE IN THE NEXT MONTH.

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SO THIS WILL BE A JOINT PROJECT WITH THAT.

WE JUST STARTED INTO DESIGN OF THAT COMING UP THIS YEAR.

OHIO AVENUE, WE ARE JUST WRAPPING UP THE DESIGN.

AND WE WILL BE ENTERING INTO CONSTRUCTION OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. ON THE STREET, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON THAT THIS YEAR. IT WAS OUR INTENTION WE WOULD HAVE THAT COMPLETED, BUT THAT KIND OF SLIPPED A LITTLE BIT SO THIS WILL BE DESIGNED IN HOUSE AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS YEAR. AND MEANS COURT, THAT IS IN RELATI RELATIONSHIP TO THE OAKS AND MILLS CREEK. THE EXTENSION OF MEANS COURT TO FACILITATE THOSE HOMES UP THERE. WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.

WE ARE DOING THAT IN HOUSE. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO A CONSULTANT TO HELP US WITH THE PERMITTING ASPECTS OF THAT THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA AND DEP AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE THAT ARE IMPAIRED WATERS THAT WE ARE DUMP INTO.

WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THAT UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF TIS YEAR. SO -- PRESSING COURT, BOSTON AVENUE AND 11TH STREET. THOSE ARE ALL THREE STREETS IN THE SAME AREA. THESE ARE ROADS THAT ARE BEYOND JUST MILLING AND RESURFACING. SO WE WILL GO IN AND REDO THE CURB AND GUTTER, UPGRADE THE DRAINAGE AND RECONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY. THAT IS ALL IN THAT AREA BETWEEN ORANGE AVENUE AND DELAWARE, THOSE AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT IN THERE. AVENUE.

D, WE SHOULD HAVE -- I DON'T THINK WE WERE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE OUR FINAL DESIGN PLANS LAST WEEK.

THEY KIND OF SLIPPED A WEEK ON THAT.

AND WE ARE LOOKING HAVING THAT THIS MONTH.

AS SOON AS WE DO, THE REVEAL OF THAT, WE OPEN TO GET THAT OUT FOR BID REAL SOON AND GET THAT UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE SCREEN -- THE TOP TWO -- OR THREE.

11TH STREET. YOU TALKED ABOUT BEGIN IN FY '22 AND '23. WILL WE BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IT IN

THIS FISCAL YEAR? >> WELL, RIGHT NOW, THE WAY OUR CONSULTANTS ARE, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION, IT TAKES TIME FOR THEM. THEY ARE SO BUSY RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS FUNDED THIS YEAR.

I DO HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR T THEM. A LOT OF THAT IS SURTAX MONEY.

I HAVE FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR DEPENDING ON WHERE IT FALLS WITH

THE DESIGN. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MY NEXT QUESTION, SURTAX OR STORMWATER?

>> ONCE AGAIN, I COMBINE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDS, SURTAX, STORMWATER, AND WE WILL ALSO DO THE ROAD IMPACT FEE TO DO CERTAIN ASPECTS THAT WE CAN FACILITATE THESE.

EACH OF THE FUNDS HAVE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT YOU CAN FUND ON.

SO IT IS GREAT TO HAVE THE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS THAT WE CAN DO

THESE STREETS. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: STAY ON THOSE CONSULTANTS, I GUESS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: EVERYBODY IS BUSY AND THAT IS A GOOD THING.

>>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I HAVE A QUESTION.

MR. ANDREWS, ON THE AVENUE D PART AND TO PUT THAT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE, THE BID ALSO GO OUT IN AUGUST.

LIKELY THAT WE WON'T HAVE AN EARLY CHRISTMAS GIVE TO HAVE THAT RESURFACED. THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION I GET, BUT RESURFACING MILLING DOWN TO A CERTAIN GRADE AND GOING BACK

WITH SMOOTH ASPHALT. >> RIGHT.

AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WILL BE THE LIMITATION OF THE CROSSWALKS TO PICK UP THOSE EXISTING CROSSWALKS AND COME BACK WITH THE STAMPED ASPHALT WITH THAT.

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>>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: WE DO A BEAUTIFUL JOB OF LIGHTING IT UP FOR THE HOLIDAY COMING DOWN -- I DON'T KNOW AN EARLY CHRISTMAS GIFT TO THE AREA.

MAYBE FOR NEW YEAR'S -- NO, NO, THAT WON'T HAPPEN -- HOLIDAYS -- '23. LET'S GO --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: JULY 4. >>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

GO FOR EASTER. >> VALENTINE'S DAY.

>>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: BECAUSE WE HEAR ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONS AND RAISED CONCRETE TO SMOOTH THAT OUT AND PROVIDE FOR BETTER TRANSITION. THIS WILL GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO 29TH STREET. 29TH STREET.

OKAY. THAT WILL BE GREAT.

I NOTICE CURB AND GUTTER AREAS OF THE WESTERN PART OF AVENUE D FROM 25TH AND 29TH. RESURFACING.

NO CURB AND GUTTER GOING IN THERE?

>> JUST RESURFACING. >>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: GREAT IF THE DRAINAGE WOULD CONNECT WHATEVER THE DRAINAGE FLOW TO THAT AREA. EAST TO WEST OR WEST TO EAST.

>> MOST OF IT GOES SOUTH TO THE MORRIS CREEK.

IT DOES COME TO THE INTERSECTIONS OF 29TH, 27TH AS A CROSS. AND 25TH.

>>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: GOT IT.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WE ARE HAVING

TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT DRAINAGE. >>>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

LEARNING A LOT ABOUT DRAINAGE. >> THESE ARE THE TWO SUN TRAIL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. FINISHING UP THE DESIGN IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND GOES THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE THIS IS FUNDED LAND GO ACCORDING TO DOT AND WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO GOING INTO THAT SHORTLY THE SECTION THAT GOES THROUGH DOWNTOWN, WE ARE WORKING

ON THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS A

CHALLENGE. >> IT IS A CHALLENGE.

WE ARE WORK WITH THE CONSULTANTS ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET THE INPUT OF THE BEST WAY TO GET DOWNTOWN.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: CAN WE --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: CAN WE SET UP MEETINGS WITH THE COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU CONCERNING THE DOWNTOWN AREAS, YOUR IDEAS, WHAT THE CONSULTANT IS THINKING, WHAT WE CONVEYED TO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN FOLKS. THAT WILL BE A HEAVY TOPIC FOR THIS -- FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FROM THIS DAIS, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT. AND, YES, THAT IS GOING --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE -- YOU LEAD THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE.

AND YOU HAVE A LOT -- WHEN I MET WITH THE MASTER PLAN CONSULTANT.

I BROUGHT IT UP. I SAID DO YOU REALIZE THAT THE TRAIL IS SUPPOSE TO GO THERE. WITH.

HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HE ADMITTED IT WAS A CHALLENGE.

WHEN YOU SAY IT GOES THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE.

IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE OR IS IT ON THE EDGE?

>> IT IS ON THE EDGE. IT IS ON --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I THOUGHT SO. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE OFFPUTTING FOR GOLFERS. IT IS ALMOST REQUIRED.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS, JACK. >> AND CONTINUING ON, OF MOVING INTO OUR STORMWATER PROJECTS, WE HAVE FRANCIS AVENUE.

WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS -- THIS IS FAILING.

INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE HAD.

I AM MOVING THIS PROJECT UP. I WILL DO THIS AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND I AM MEET WITH A CONSULTANT NEXT WEEK TO GET THIS ONE SECTION DESIGNED AND GET THAT OUT INTO CONSTRUCTION. THE MORRIS CREEK TRASH INTERCEPTORS. A PROJECT WE HAD WENT OUT FOR A GRANT -- OUR GRANT DEPARTMENT APPLIED FOR IT.

AND WE WERE AWARDED THIS LAND WILL TAKE TWO OUTFALL THAT'S COME INTO THE CREEK. ONE IS -- ONE WILL BE 29TH STREET. AND THE OTHER IS -- WE ARE DOWN TO 17TH STREET -- 17TH STREET. AND THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE STRUCTURE THAT'S WE PUT ON THE ENDS OF THE PIPE, NET THAT WILL CUT -- CUT THE TRASH THAT IS FLOWING DOWN THE CREEK AND WE ARE REALLY HOPEFUL THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT AND A GOOD PILOT

PROJECT THAT WE CAN -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS GREAT.

HOW DO YOU COLLECT THE TRASH? HOW DOES IT GET COLLECTED?

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>> IT WILL HAVE TO BE A JOINT PROJECT WITH A PUBLIC WORK THAT -- WHEN THEY FILL UP, THEY WILL COME WITH THE GRAPPLE TRUCKS AND DUMP IT IN. A JOINT PROJECT THAT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM TOGETHER ON. AND GEORGE AVENUE BASIN.

A PROJECT THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU IN THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE AWARD OF THIS CONTRACT.

THIS WILL BE WORK AT -- THE GOLF COURSE ACTUALLY.

THE WATER THAT COMES OFF THE GEORGIA AVENUE BASIN, THAT DRAINS TO THE GOLF COURSE AND TO IT THE INDIAN RIVER.

CURRENTLY THERE IS NO -- NOTHING STOPPING THE WATER.

SO WE WILL GO IN AND PUT AN OUTFALL STRUCTURE IN THE GOLF COURSE. WE WILL DO -- WE WILL TREAT THE WATER BEFORE IT COMES IN AND SET TRAPS ON TWO INLETS COMING INTO THE LAKE. IT WILL INCLUDE A FOUNTAIN IN THE GOLF COURSE LAKE. A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLANNING THAT WILL HELP TO CAPTURE THE NUTRIENTS BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE RIVER. SO IT IS A REAL GOOD PROJECT.

FUNDING. WE WERE ABLE TO GET $1 MILLION

FUNDING FROM PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: REAL QUICK, JACK. THERE HAS BEEN CONFUSION IN THE PAST. WILL YOU IDENTIFY THE GEORGIA AVENUE BASIN. WHAT STREET NORTH AND SOUTH AND

WHAT FAR WEST ARE WE CORRECTING? >> THAT AREA RUNNING SUNRISE BOULEVARD, GEORGIA AVENUE ON THE NORTH, AND THAT SECTION THAT IS SOUTH OF GEORGIA AVENUE GOES BACK TO -- PROBABLY PARKWAY.

ALL THAT AREA IN THERE ABOUT 256 ACRE THAT'S DRAINS IN PINEWOOD

PARK DRAINS. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

AS FAR AS WEST AS SUNRISE. >> SUNRISE, LIKE A BLOCK NORTHWEST OF SUNRISE THAT COMES INTO OUR AREA.

>> IT'S SEE. 16TH STREET IS A FAILED INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. WE DID PIPE VIDEO OF THAT TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT IS ACTUAL THAT WE NEED TO GET IN THERE AND REPLACE THE PIPE OR WE CAN LINE IT.

SO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS IS THAT WE CAN COME UP TO REPAIR THAT. AND SAME THING WITH AVENUEQ IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE SAME PROJECTS THAT WE RECENTLY VIDEOED TO DETERMINE THAT. ATLANTIC AVENUE OF FAILED STORM -- SHOWED UP IN THE PAVEMENT OF FAILED HOLES AND THIS WILL GO FROM 5TH TO 7TH STREET. THAT LITTLE SECTION IN THERE.

AND SURFSIDE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THERE.

THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN. WE LOOK AT HAVING FINISHED PLANS BY DECEMBER. AND LOOKING AT MOVING RIGHT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION. VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST PHASE THAT WE DID OVER THERE. REALLY SEEMED TO HELP THE

DRAINAGE OVER IN THAT AREA. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MADAM

MAYOR? >>MAYOR: YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: HAVING A COASTAL ROAD LIKE THAT.

IT HAS BEEN AN EXPERIENCE I HAVE SEEN A TO WHERE -- WHEN WE GOT STRONG CURRENT COMING INTO THE SHORELINE, THAT WATER ACTUALLY COMES UP OFF OF THE ROAD. DOES THAT CREATE A COMPLETE DIFFERENT PROBLEM FOR ROAD DESIGN?

>> YES. ANY TIME WE STRUGGLE WITH THE -- WITH THE TIDES AND EVERYTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS WITH THE -- WITH THE RESILIENCY THAT WE CAN PROTECT AGAINST US AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BACKFLOW PREVENTERS TO KEEP THE TIDE FROM COMING BACK INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT, YES, IT IS A CHALLENGE. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THAT

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>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: NORMALLY YOU EXPECT WATER TO GO FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM. AND YOU WASH OUT THE -- THE SUB -- THE SUBSTRATE, WHATEVER, THE ROAD, BUT YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE ON A STORM DAY AND YOU CAN SEE WATER ACTUALLY FLOWING UP THROUGH THE ROAD. AND AMAZES ME THAT WE CAN CREATE THESE THINGS AND SEEMS LIKE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR THE COASTAL ROAD IS QUITE THE LIFE OF WHAT NORMAL ROADS ARE IN THE MAIN MAINLAND.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THIS PROJECT IN CASES THREE AND FOUR OF THE SURFSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD. SINCE THE SWELL HAVE BEEN FILLED IN WITH PEOPLE'S PIPES FILLED IN DIFFERENT.

CURRENTLY THE DRAINAGE BASICALLY USES THE ROAD AS THE CONDUIT TO MOVE IT. ANY WATER THAT FALLS DRAINS IN THE ROAD. WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPT TO DO NOW IS TO PUT A CROWD IN THE ROAD. TO RAISE THE ROADS UP SO IT IS ACTUALLY ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD INSTEAD OF SITTING IN THE MIDDLE. THIS HELPS TO WITH THE -- WITH THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH THE WATER SITTING IN THE ROAD.

THAT IS THE -- AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS.

WE RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE AT THE FPRA MEETING.

THE AVENUED PARKING. WE ARE LOOKING AT.

WE HAVE A SURVEY ORDERED FOR THAT.

WE HAVE NOT STARTED DESIGN, BUT THAT IS COMING UP WHERE WE WILL DESIGN THAT IN-HOUSE AND GET THAT OUT TO CONSTRUCTION.

AND FINN PARK. WE ARE WORKING ON A PARKING LOT AND THE TRAILS TO INTERCONNECT THE AMENITIES IN THERE AND WE ARE DOING THAT IN HOUSE ALSO. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING

ON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THAT PARKING LOT WILL BE A GOOD PROJECT.

I USE IT ON FRIDAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ON FRIDAY A BIG EVENT THERE AND PEOPLE WERE PARKING ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SOME PEOPLE PARKED IN INJURIO TO GO TO THAT EVENT, BUT IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

IT WAS A GOOD THING. -- VERO TO GO TO THAT EVENT.

BUT IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL. IT WAS A GOOD THING.

>> AND CLOSELY CONNECT WITH OUR. BUT IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL.

IT WAS A GOOD THING. >> AND CLOSELY CONNECT WITH OUR.

BUT IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL. IT WAS A GOOD THING.

>> AND CLOSELY CONNECT WITH OUR, $3 MILLION FUNDS RECEIVED.

THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR SHY OF $2 MILLION.

THAT IS FROM OCTOBER TO JUNE AND SURPASSES WHAT WE ESTIMATED THE SURTAX WOULD BRING IN. JUMPING DOWN WE HAVE ENCUMBERED BALANCE AT $3,700,000. WE HAVE THE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT WE COMBINE OTHER FUNDS WITH OF $3.1 MILLION.

SO WE KEEP THOSE FUNDS COMING IN, GOING OUT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: AND SPENDING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>>MAYOR: COULD YOU JUST TELL ME AGAIN WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO BENNY. WHAT IS HAPPENING ON VINNIE?

>> VINNIE WILL BE THE RAISED INTERSECTIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC

CALMING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OH, WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT.

>> VINNIE DRIVE, AS YOU KNOW I AM VERY SURE WE PUT IN THE SPEED TAPES. VINNIE WAS SO DIFFICULT TO FIND THE PLACE WHERE WE COULD PUT SPEED TABLES BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS AND EVERYTHING.

YOU COULDN'T PUT ANY PLACE ON THERE.

SO WE WENT TO THE METHODOLOGY TO DO AN INTERSECTION TO RAISE THE TOTAL INTERSECTIONS. THAT WAY WE DON'T INTERFERE WITH PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS, MAILBOXES, EVERYTHING ELSE AND HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF A HOME. SOME I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD

TRAFFIC CALMING THING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.

EVERYBODY GOOD. GOOD REPORT, JACK, THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: JACK, COULD YOU CUE UP THAT ARP UPDATE. TO THE LEFT, TO THE LEFT.

[c. American Rescue Plan Act Funding Update]

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>>THE NEXT ITEM IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING UPDATE.

I AM GUESSING THIS IS MR. MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, THIS IS ME. THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU, SIR. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AS YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR WE BROUGHT TO YOU A BUDGET WITH REGARD TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WAS THE RECIPIENT OF ROUGHLY $13.5 MILLION OF DIRECT FEDERAL AID. THIS IS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC, AND BASICALLY HERE ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU ARE SEEING WHAT USES AND HOW WE CAN EXPEND THAT MONEY OVER THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS REMAINING ON THE LIFE OF THESE FUNDS. SO WE BEGIN WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. JACK JUST WENT OVER OUR STORMWATER PROJECTS ON 16TH STREET AND ATLANTIC AVENUE AND AVENUE Q, ALL HAVE INCREASED DUE TO INFLATION.

THEY HAVE INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO WE HAVE A TOTAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT BUDGET OF $2.943 MILLION. ALSO, YOU ALL APPROVED ON JANUARY 3, 2022, $2.1 MILLION FOR THE ACQUISITION OF REFUSE COLLECTION VEHICLES. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE

COMING IN -- >> OCTOBER.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: HOPEFULLY OCTOBER WE MAY GET THEM AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE ON THE STREETS SOME TIME BEFORE CHRISTMAS. BROADBAND INITIATIVES.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY ON TWO DIFFERENT AREAS, ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN SMART CITY, AND THE OTHER IS A PARKS INITIATIVE. DOWNTOWN INITIATIVE IS THE CORE OF OUR DOWNTOWN. UP AND DOWN ORANGE AVENUE, AND SECOND STREET, INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND THE MARINA SQUARE AREA. WE WILL HAVE KEY TOS CANS THAT ARE INTERACTIVE THAT CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR OUR VISITORS, OUR BUSINESS PATRON THAT'S VISIT THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

IN BOTH INSTANCES THERE WILL BE A FIBER NETWORK.

A HARD FIBER NETWORK. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WI-FI NOW, WE ARE TALKING OF A HARD FIBER NETWORK, THE BUSINESSES AND INSTITUTIONS IN THESE RESPECTIVE AREAS CAN TAP INTO AND WE WILL HAVE A VERY, VERY AFFORDABLE RATE OF WHICH THEY CAN PAY TO RECEIVE THESE SERVICES.

THE SMART CITY INITIATIVE PRIMARILY ALONG ORANGE AVENUE AND AVENUED. FIFTH STREET AREA.

THAT SQUARE AREA. AND ON OUTSIDE OF EXTERNAL SOURCES SPECIFICALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, CONTRIBUTION HAS REMAINED THE SAME. WE ARE SEEING AN INVESTMENT IN BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE. AND OUR TOTAL CONTRIBUTION WILL BE $440,000 IN THAT REGARD. ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING BACK IN JUNE 2021, WE APPROVED $1.1 MILLION FOR THIS PURPOSE.

AND WE ARE NOW DEEP IN TRANSITION GOING TO THE TYLER MUNIS ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SOFTWARE.

HOPEFULLY SHEA WILL GET THAT DONE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

ALL HE DOES IS IT WAKES UP, EATS AND SLEEPS ERP.

THEN WE APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER, $2.47 MILLION FOR EXXON TECH FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS YOU KNOW, WE PRIDE OURSELVES OF BEING ONE OF THE MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE AREA AND EXPAND THAT WITH BODY CAMERA AND TASER INITIATIVES, IN-CAR RADIO, LPRS. DRONE PROGRAM -- WE HAVE A NEW DRONE WE ARE ACQUIRING. AND WITH THAT COMES THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE NEED FOR INDIVIDUALS TO MANAGE THAT.

AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THIS BU BUDGET. CITY OF MORENO.

APPROVED A $289,000 FOR THE CITY MARINA SAFETY AND SURVEILLANCE.

AS YOU KNOW THE CITY MARINA IS THE CENTER OF ONE OF THE ACTIVE AREAS IN THE CITY. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE HAD SOME OCCURRENCES WHERE THERE HAS BEEN LOSS OF LIFE AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE NECESSARY TECHNOLOGY, SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE TO HELP AND ASSIST US WITH THAT.

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AND WE UTILIZED THAT TO WORK ON THAT CONTRACT LAST YEAR THAT WE JUST GOT APPROVED. AND I BELIEVE IT WAS A GREAT QUOTE, UNQUOTE, STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WHERE OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOW IN OUR CORRECT LONGEVITY AND EXPERIENCED STEP BASED ON THEIR YEARS OF SURFACE. AND WE INTEND TO DO THE SAME THING IN FC '23 WITH ANLE ALLOCATION OF $500,000 TO STOP LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS TO GIVE COMPETITIVE WAGES AND COMPENSATION TO HOPEFULLY KEEP THEM HERE.

AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, BUT THE COST OF LIVING IN FLORIDA HAS GONE UP TREMENDOUSLY. WE ARE TRYING TO BE REACTIVE TO THE SITUATION, SPECIFICALLY IN FORT PIERCE.

WE HAVE ALLOCATED $900,000. AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE A PRESENTATION DIRECTLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED.

AND THE LOSS DUE TO COVID-19 AND USE THIS AMOUNT TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET WITH THE LOSSES AND ACCEPTABLE BY THE PROGRAM.

THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE $13.5 MILLION AND WANT THIS TO ACT AS A SIMPLE UPDATE AND A NEW PROGRAM AS WE SPOKE.

I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN

PROGRAM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS THAT ARE SUBSEQUENT TO THIS WE HAVE BEEN NOT NOTIFIED OF ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. MIMMS.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: FUTURE PROJECTS TO BE DETERMINED. THAT IS NOT.

WE ARE GOING TO DETERMINE THAT. IS THAT COMING NEXT ARE NEXT?

>> NOTHING, THOSE FUTURE PROJECTS ARE YET TO BE DETERMINED. WE DON'T HAVE AN ALLOCATION OR DESTINATION FOR THOSE FUNDS AS OF YET.

A WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT THROUGH FY '24.

WE WILL BE DETERMINED WHERE THOSE FUNDS GO.

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM THAT BRITTANY WILL PRESENT TO

YOU SHORTLY. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: THE PUBLIC PSALMS. THE CITY RECEIVED $13.5 MILLION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OF GOVERNMENT.

AND AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN BASICALLY ACCOUNTED FOR THE 613 WHICH IS UNFUNDED. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS COMING IN SAYING THIS AND THAT.

AND HEARD FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES OTHER COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THESE ORGANIZATION ARE COMING SAYING, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS.

WHAT ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING PSALM THAT THIS IS THE ALLOCATION OF THAT 13.5.

AND WHERE WE ARE AT THE CURRENT MOMENT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND HOW WE BENEFIT FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, I -- I DEDUCT THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS WANT. KEPT UP WITH CURRENT TECHNOLOGY WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO WATER DAMAGE, FLOODING, ETC. CERTAINLY WITH INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN I.T. TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING CUTTING EDGE TO MAKE THAT USER EXPERIENCE MUCH BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO CITY HALL. THEY CAN PAY THEIR BILLS ONLINE, ETC. SO THEY CAN GET THINGS PRETTY QUICKLY THROUGH TECHNOLOGY. WHEN I TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I NEED US TO LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS.

THESE ARE BIG FANCY DETERMINES FOR US.

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SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD JUST KINDLY TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT WITH YOUR STAFF AND CHALLENGE YOUR DIRECTORS, ETC.

THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY SO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS $13.5 MILLION WAS SPENT TO BETTER THEIR LIVES AND

EXPERIENCE THIS WITH CITY HALL. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, S SIR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. GAINES? >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, REAL QUICK. MR. MIMMS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS MUCH NEEDED, AS YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR CITY. WHATEVER WE CAN DO AND WHATEVER MONEY WE CAN FIND TO TRY TO HAVE OUR RESIDENTS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN FORT PIERCE, IT WOULD BE GREATLY NEEDED.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, SIR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYBODY ELSE? YOU WANT BRITTANY TO COME UP NOW? MEMPHIS MIMMS AT THIS TIME HAVE BRITTANY COME UP FROM OUR GRANTS ADMINISTRATION DIVISION. AND SHE IS GOING TO TALK OF A NEW INITIATIVE WE HOPE WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE AMERICAN

RESCUE PLAN. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR,

COMMISSIONERS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD MORNING.

>> THIS PROGRAM WAS FIRST BRAINSTORMED WITH OUR CLOSING THE GAP RESEARCH THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU I BELIEVE BACK IN MARCH OR APRIL. WITH A LOT OF WORKSHOPPING, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A GOOD AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM THAT WILL REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO ADDRESS THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED WITH COVID-19, THAT INCLUDES VERY LOW HOUSEHOLDS, LOW INCOME, AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PRODUCE MORE HOMES IN THE AREA AND ALSO PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND GET MORE HOME OWNERSHIP FOR THOSE WHO ARE SEVERELY IMPACTED -- NOT JUST BY COVID-19, BUT IN GENERAL, TRYING TO RAISE PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY. WE ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS OUR ELEMENT OF THE LOCAL HOUSING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THE ELIGIBILITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OUR OTHER HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY FACILITATES.

THIS ONE HAS A SPECIFIC RULE SAYING THAT IT HAS TO FUNDS THAT ARE IMPACTED OR DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY COVID-19. THIS PROGRAM IS TAILORED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. OUR INCOME LEVELS ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS INCOME LEVELS ARE ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

THIS MEANS THAT THIS PROGRAM WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS EXTREMELY LOW POPULATION WHICH IS 30% OF THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.

YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THE CHART, BASED ON THE HOUSE HOLD SIZE, WHAT THAT IS. VERY LOW WHICH IS 50% INCOME WHICH IS AT 80%. THERE ARE SOME WAY THAT'S WE CAN ASSIST IN THAT MODERATE LEVEL FOR THOSE WHO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE. THIS IS DESIGNED TO HELP THOSE IN THE LOWER LEVELS. THE IMPACTED HOUSE HOLD IS THE DEFINITION BASED ON THE ACT. THE FINAL RULE OF THE ACT MODERATE FLAK AND BELOW 100% AMI.

EMPLOYMENT, FOOD AND HOUSING INSECURITY, QUALIFY FOR CHILDREN HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM, CCDF. THEY ALSO QUALIFY FOR THE NATIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND FOR HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP.

WE MAY USE OUR DISCRETIONRULES? >> YES.

THE -- LITTLE MORE SEVERELY IMPACTED.

LOW INCOME OR BELOW WHICH INCLUDES EXTREMELY LOW INCOME AND VERY LOW INCOME THEY RELY IN QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACT.

THEY ARE DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS HIGHLY IMPACTED AREA. QUALIFY FOR TANF, SNAP OR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH OF HOW WE REARRANGE THIS PROGRAM FORTED.

I ALSO PUT THE INCOME LEVELS THERE BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, THE INCOME LEVELS MAY SEEM LIKE IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME THAT HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK.

AND THIS COULD HELP THEM BENEFIT GREATLY.

THE STRATEGIES ARE PART OF THE HOUSING PROGRAM.

THE FIRST ONE IS CONSTRUCTION AND INFILL HOUSE TO REVITALIZE

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FUNDS CAN BE USED IN CONSTRUCTION OF HOMES AND DEVELOPMENT COSTS. THIS MEANS THAT THOSE THAT ARE IN THE VERY LOW INCOME LEVEL, THAT BELOW 50% AMI, THEIR MAXIMUM AWARD FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM WILL BE $15,000. THAT WILL COST DEVELOPMENT FEES, PAY DOWN FOR PURCHASING. IT IS JUST AN UNIQUE OR DIFFERENT WAY FOR OTHER CITIES THAN FORT MEYERS USED TO BUILD DOWN THE COST. THIS IS FOR LOW INCOME OF 80% AMI AND THE MAXIMUM ASSISTANCE WOULD BE $35,000.

MODERATE LEVEL IS 81 AMI WHICH IS ABOUT $25,000.

STRATEGIES B, PARTNER ASSISTANCE.

THIS IS FOR PURCHASING A HOME IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

PAYMENT AND CLOSING COST ASSISTANCE.

AND FOR FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS FOR A NEW LIE CONSTRUCTED OR EXISTING HOME AS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED, JUST TO GIVE YOU A COMPARISON THAT IS 80% BELOW AMI AND $40,000.

NOT JUST LIMITED TO PROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED.

HOUSEHOLDS CAN APPLY AND 81% OR 120%.

AND THEY WOULD RECEIVE A $25,000 DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

SO WITH THAT, LITTLE BIT OF BRIEF -- WE ARE PROPOSING OR REQUEST $900,000 TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM THROUGH OUR CLOSING THE GAP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO AND, LIKE, OTHER PROGRAMS, DO THEY PAY THIS BACK? OR IS THIS -- THIS IS A GRANT

AWARD. >> A GRANT AWARD WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THE HOME FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND DEPRECIATE YATES UNTIL THAT TIME EXPIRES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: LIKE THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DID YOU DISCUSS THE 30B89 OF HELPING PEOPLE REMODEL THEIR EXISTING HOMES SO THEY CAN DAY IN THEIR HOMES AND OR IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND ALSO AND LOWER THEIR UTILITY BILLS?

>> NOT WITH THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS THROUGH OUR SHIP FUNDS AND WORK WITH THE /* FPUA FOR WEATHERIZATION

PROGRAM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU WORK WITH THE FPUA.

THEY HAVE A SIMILAR GOAL OF HELPING PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND MAKING THEIR UTILITY COSTS MORE EFFICIENT VERY GOOD.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: JUST A POINT. YOU SAY NEW CONSTRUCTION, $900,000 -- SET ASIDE $900,000 WORTH OF FUNDS FOR THAT.

YOU ARE TALKING EVER FIXING UP THE HOUSE AND GETTING IT REMODELED FOR EFFICIENCY AND A TOTALLY DIFFERENT POOL AND WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING THAT TODAY. WITH THIS ONE HERE, I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT -- AND I AM GLAD YOU PUT THIS HERE.

THIS IS ELIGIBLE FOR EITHER 20 VERY LOW AND 20 DISPROPORTIONATE. YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE A MIX OF LOW OR DISPROPORTIONATE PEOPLE. MY CONCERN IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES TO PROVIDE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES THAT ARE FIRST-TIME HOMEOWNERS.

A DAUNTING TASK FOR PEOPLE WHO NEVER DONE IT BEFORE AND THEY OWN THEIR HOUSE AND ASSET TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN IT.

AND GREAT TO GET IT IN THERE. AND WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN THERE.

SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT AND WHERE IS THAT WITH THIS PRESENTATION OR BEYOND THIS. MY CONCERN HOW WE GET THEM IN THE HOUSE TO EDUCATE OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

AND WITH MORE STAFF COMING ON BOARD.

A ROBROBUST. WE HAVE FUNDS FOR EDUCATION AND REPAIR AND KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.

>> CAN YOU GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS TRAINING AND FUNDING FOR THAT TYPE OF INITIATIVE OR ARE WE GOING AFTER EVEN MORE? I THINK WE HAVE SOME STATE FUNDING ANDLE AL OCCASION. ADDRESS MORE OF A NEED.

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EDUCATION ON FINANCIAL LITERACY TO ADDRESS HOME OWNERSHIP AND GAPS IN POLICY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ADDRESS WITH CLOSING THE GAP.

THAT GENERALLY COMES FROM OUR SHIP FUNDING AND AS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY DOING THAT AND WE CAN HAVE A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS TO COND

CONDITION. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: DOES THAT COME BEFORE I QUALIFY FOR THIS AND BECOME ONE OF THE OPPORTUNE STK -- AND GET A HOUSE?

>> YES, 100%. USUALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PURCHASE ASSISTANCE, WE REQUIRE THAT INDIVIDUALS TAKE HOMETIME HOME BUYER SEMINARS BEFORE THEY GET PREAPPROVED FOR A MORTGAGE.

IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS THEY CAN SPEAK TO REALTORS, LENDER AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MARKET IF NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME

FOR THEM TO PURCHASE. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: LAST QUESTION. WITH ALL OF THIS AND I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT, MR. MIMMS, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE PROJECT AT OAKS AT MORRIS CREEK AND ANY OTHER HOUSE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE POOH THEM A WILL QUALIFY BASED ON ABILITY TO AFFORD IT. THEY HAVE THE ASSISTANCE TO BUY A HOUSE. OKAY, I AM CLEAR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: AND SOME EDUCATION TOO.

ONE OF THEIR -- >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC PSALM THAT YOU CAN'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. YOU GOT TO GET IN THESE CLASSES THAT PUT YOU IN A POSITION TO QUALIFY TO GET THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TAKEN THE STEPS TO LEARN AND BE PREPARED.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: WHEN AND WHERE CAN THE RESIDENTS OF FORT

PIERCE APPLY? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

[LAUGHTER] WE WANT TO DO THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND WE HAVE THINGS TO IRON OUT FIRST.

TECHNICALITIES, APPLICATION PROCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE HOUSING COALITION TO WORK OUT THE KINKS OF THE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE IT IS SMOOTH RUNNING.

THE SECOND ONLY -- PROBABLY THE SECOND CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

FORT MEYERS BEING THE FIRST ONE. THIS IS AN UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT US -- NOT JUST ON THE MAP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT ADDRESS IT IN AN UNIQUE WAY 20 MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE IN IF THE

FUTURE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: SOMETHING MY COLLEAGUE SAYS, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

COMMUNICATION AND GETTING THE WORD OUTS SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

YOU CAN'T GET THE HORSE FIRST. YOU NEED TO GET THE CART FIRST.

THE WORD OUT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON OPINION.

USE ME, DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

BEING SECOND WE CAN EASILY BE THE BEST.

NO SHADE ON FORT MYERS. LET'S DO IT.

NOT ONLY DO WE GET OUR NAME ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE WHOLE WORLD AND I WOULD LOVE FOR FORT PIERCE TO BE ONE OF THE LEADERS AND AN EXAMPLE TO SAY THIS IS HOW WE DO IT MARY MARE LEARN FROM FORT MYERS MISTAKES IF THEY MADE ANY. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: VERY GOOD INFORMATION AND WE DON'T HAVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS GOING RIGHT NOW.

SOMEBODY THAT IS WATCH THIS, THERE ARE THINGS THAT SOMEONE CAN TO DO START GETTING THEMSELVES PREPARED TO BE A PART NOT ONLY THIS PROGRAM BUT OTHER PROGRAMS THAT DO EXIST.

WHERE IS THAT INFORMATION THAT SOMEBODY CAN FIND OUT?

>> ONE OF THE SITES -- OUR SITE, THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION ON THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE'S WEB SITE. THERE ARE A LIST OF RESOURCES

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HOW DO I GET PREAPPROVED AND STARTING TO PUT UP MORE EDUCATIONAL LINKS UP THERE PARTNERING WITH ORGANIZATIONS A YOUTUBE INFORMATIONAL WHERE TO START, WHO TO SPEAK TO AND IN-PERSON WORKSHOP IN AUGUST TO GET PEOPLE UP AND RUNNING SO PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO GO. WE REFER PEOPLE TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE INCUBATE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO HUD DIRECTLY AND A LIST OF GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS WHERE TO GO AND ONLINE COURSES.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I HAD A LITTLE EXPERIENCE WHEN MY PARTNER AND I GOT OUT OF RENTAL PROPERTY.

WE TOOK OUR TEN BEST TENANTS AND SAID WE WILL MAKE YOU HOMEOWNERS AND MOST OF THEM NEVER, EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.

IT IS A PREPARATION. YOU JUST DON'T BECOME A HOMEOWNER. SOMETHING YOU ASPIRE TOO.

PLAN ON AND TRAIN OF HOW THINGS HAPPENED.

A BIG DETACHMENT. WE HAD MINISTERS COME IN TO TALK TO THE TENANT AND TELL HIM THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE. A PROCESS THAT I NEVER, EVER REALIZED. HAVING THIS INFORMATION OUT THERE TO GET PEOPLE IN CLASSES TO BE ABLE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT WILL TAKE FROM THAT PERSON CAN SAVE A LOT OF TIME AND MAKE THEM MORE QUALIFIED THAN NOT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS OUT THERE AND THE PREP FOR THIS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT DOING THE GRANTS THROUGH COVID-19 THAT PEOPLE GO NOT HAVE THEIR PAPERWORK TOGETHER. A LOT OF PEOPLE FAILED AT GETTING A GRANT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PROVE CERTAIN THINGS.

SO HAVING YOUR -- YOUR HOUSE HOLD PAPERWORK IN GOOD ORDER AND KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE YOUR -- WHATEVER YOUR LAST TAX RETURNS AND ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU NEED IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS KIND OF PROCESS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. EVERY GRANT PROGRAM WE OPEN JUST MISSING DOCUMENTS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY -- THEIR APPLICATION CAN'T BE REVIEWED. WE LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE UP FRONT AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE.

THAT WAY THE FIRST DAY YOU TURN IT IN, WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS,

WE KEEP GOING. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: BECAUSE LIMITED TIME AND LIMITED MONEY. WITH THOSE TWO THINGS GOING ON, THE CLOCK TICKS PRETTY LOUD -- PRETTY LOUD WHEN YOU ARE SIT THERE TRYING TO FILL OUT A FORM, AND IT IS FRUSTRATING.

IT REALLY IS. WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THIS AND PEOPLE CAN START PREPARING FOR IT NOW.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD QUESTION. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM

MAYOR? >>MAYOR: YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: OUR WEB SITE IS GREAT.

A LOT OF INFORMATION BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS WILL NOT CLICK -- HOW MUCH YOU PUT ON THERE WILL NOT CLICK ON OUR WEB SITE.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT. WHEN YOU ARE READY TO DO THIS, SOME PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE RADIO.

MARSZ MARY FLYERS. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: FLYERS IN SOME CHURCHES. I KEEP SAYING THAT ONE OF OUR BIGGEST. WE DON'T USE ENOUGH TO HIRE SOME TEENS. LET THESE TEENAGER TAKE IT HOME TO THEIR PARENTS. ANY INFORMATION WE CAN TO GET IT OUT BECAUSE I GO ON THE WEB SITE ALL TIME.

AND I TELL PEOPLE TO GO TO THE WEB SITE ALL THE TIME AND I GET CALLS SAYING WHERE DO I GET THAT INFORMATION.

A DISCONNECT. THE WEB SITE IS GREAT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN, THAT IS ON THE WEB SITE.

IT IS ME GOING THROUGH A WEB SITE AND NAVIGATE THROUGH A WEB SITE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.

THEY JUST -- THEY JUST DON'T. TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS, YOU NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT ANY WAY IF POSSIBLE.

TV STATIONS. WE WANT TO -- LIKE YOU SAID PUT FORT PIERCE ON THE MAP. LET'S DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: BOBBY CAN DO ONE OF THINKS WONDERFUL VIDEOS.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: FEATURING COMMISSIONER GAINES

THIS TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

I DID IT LAST TIME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMMS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: IN ADDITION I KNOW THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A HOT TOPIC AND WE AS A CITY OF FORT PIERCE ARE STILL PARTNERING WITH ST\. LUCIE COUNTY.

ADMINI ADMINISTERING RENTAL ASSISTANCE

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THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. IT IS STILL OPEN AND STILL HAVE FUNDS. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DID OUR FIRST ECONOMIC INCENTIVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSE WITH THE BLUE SKY DEVELOPMENT. THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND DEVELOPERS THAT WANT THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE. IT CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR

THAT PURPOSE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GREAT.

WE ARE PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, THE TASK FORCE, WE SUBMITTED OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND I AM WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY SAY. AND I KNOW ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO KEEP THAT BOARD INTACT.

SO THERE WILL BE -- HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE A HOMELESS BOARD -- TASK FORCE BOARD BETWEEN THE COUNTIES -- IN ST\.

LUCIE COUNTY WITH ALL THE CITIES INVOLVED.

AND SOMEONE FROM FORT PIERCE WILL HAVE A SEAT ON THAT BOARD.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE WANT TO KEEP UP ON THAT.

IS THAT IS IT? >> THAT'S IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS GREAT. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: MADAM MAYOR,

[d. Recreational Programs Expansion]

THAT CONCLUDES OUR ITEM. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: >> NEXT EYE TREM RECREATIONAL

PROGRAMS EXPANSIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMMS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING OUR RECREATIONAL PROFILE.

WE ARE THE BEST RECREATION PROGRAM ON THIS SIDE OF THE EAST COAST AND WE ARE JUST GOING TO GET BETTER.

MR. REALS IS IN CHARGE OF OUR PROGRAM AND HE IS HERE TODAY TO

GIVE YOU HIS OVERVIEW. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS.

GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A PROJECT. DESCRIPTION.

BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, A LITTLE HISTORY ON OUR RECREATION ACTIVITIES MOSTLY FOR OUR TWO NEWEST MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION. WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF FOR US TO VENTURE INTO RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, MR. MIMMS AND I HAD MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ON THE CONVERSATION WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO. MANY OUTFITS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND UTILIZE THE FACILITY AND OFFER THEIR OWN PROGRAMMING, BUT THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS, NICK AND I FELT THAT WE WANT TO GIVE THIS A SHOT. WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE CITY CAN OFFER INHOUSE AND HOW IT GOES.

ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL THINGS WE WANTED TO SEE WAS QUALITY PROGRAMMING. WE COULD HAVE FILLED OUR GYM AND FACILITIES QUICKLY WITH ANY PROGRAMMING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD QUALITY PROGRAMMING AND MAKE SURE WE HAD PROGRAMMING THAT WITH AS AFFORDABLE FOR ALL. I BELIEVE WE WERE ACCOMPLISHING THOSE THINGS, GETTING OUR FEET UNDER AND THEN COVID ARRIVED.

THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE BEEN DOING ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE STARTED DURING THE INITIAL PERIOD AND SUBSEQUENTLY THINGS WERE PUT ON HOLD AND ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING.

SO I WILL BE AS QUICK AS I CAN GOING THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION TO HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THE FUTURE.

WE ARE ALL AWARE OF OUR CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING YOUTH FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND AWARD-WINNING CHEER PROGRAM.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR THIS YEAR AND MR. MIMMS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK WE ARE DONE TAKING SIGN-UPS JUST YET.

WE HAD A NUMBER OF RECORD YOUTHS PARTICIPATING LAST YEAR IN THE PROGRAM AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL SURPASS THAT PROGRAM YET AGAIN. ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE YOU KNOW ARE SUCCESSFUL DUE TO THE VERY LIMITED STAFF THAT WE HAVE PARTICIPATING IN THIS, BUT COUNTLESS VOLUNTEERS AND THAT IS THE BIG THING. EVEN GOING FORWARD WITH THE OPPORTUNITY I WILL PRESENT LATER.

HAVING QUALITY VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US ADMINISTER THEM IS ESSENTIAL TO THE SUCCESS. BUT FOR FOOTBALL, OUR FEE IS

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THE COST OF THE PROGRAM IS HIGHER THAN THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM, $150. SO FAR WE HAVE 100 YOUNG LADIES SIGNED UP ON THAT. ON THE CHEER SIDE ALONE THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 25 VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP RUN THAT.

SUMMER CAMP, UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING FOR THE LAST TWO SUMMER HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF COVID, WHEN WE HAD IT $50-A-WEEK PER CHILD. PARTICIPANTS BETWEEN 50 AND 100 KIDS. SOME FOLKS GO ON TRIPS AND LEAVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO STAFF THAT WITH TEMP STAFF TO GET THROUGH, BUT THE PROGRAM WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THEM BACK AGAIN IN '23.

MARTIAL ARTS. THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE TO TEACH THESE YOUTH MARTIAL ARTS AT AN ANNUAL FEE OF $65 PER CHILD. MANY OF THESE PROGRAMS PRIVATELY ARE A MONTHLY FEE. YOUTH BASKETBALL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AS WELL.

AND IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT VOLUNTEERS.

THE FEE ON THIS IS $40 PER CHILD PER SEASON.

AND WE OFFER FROM FOUR YEARS OLD TO 18 IN THIS PROGRAM.

THE TEEN BASKETBALL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY CAME TO US WHEN WE WERE RUNNING THE HDRC PERCY PEAK GYM.

TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO SOMEWHERE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT TO PLAY BASKETBALL. THIS IS FREE.

AND IT HAS BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

SOME OF OUR LEISURE SERVICES FACILITIES THAT SEE FREQUENT USE. THE RIVERWALK CENTER IS THE MOST POPULAR BY FAR. COME WEDDING SEASON AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND THAT VENUE OPEN FOR, YOU KNOW, UP TO A YEAR. BUT THE RIVERWALK, WE SAW 116 RENTALS IN 2021. AND 58 IN '22.

THE GARDEN CENTER, 77 AND 21. 34 SO FAR THIS YEAR.

THE MILICENTER, GETS USED FREQUENTLY FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES.

84 AND IN '# 1 AND 44 SO FAR THIS YEAR.

RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OFFERED AT THESE FACILITIES.

THE RIVERWALK HAS JAZZERCISE, LINE DANCING, BRIDGE, YOGA IN OUR CLASSES, THE MARABELA TIE HOCKEY, ZUMBA, EXERCISES.

AND GARDEN CENTER IS USED PRIMARILY FOR MEETINGS.

OUR PARKS, YOU ALL KNOW YOU RIDE THROUGH THE CITY AND OUR PARKS ARE USED VERY HEAVILY, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS DURING THE SUMMER. JAYCEE PARK 90 RENTALS.

ROTARY, 35. SURFSIDE, SEVEN RENTALS AND EIGHT RENTALS AT DREAM LAND PARK.

SPECIAL PERMITS, 237. AND SO FAR THIS YEAR 1134 SPECIAL EVENTS. -- 113 SPECIAL EVENTS.

FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SPORTS AND FITNESS RELATED.

WE HAVE SOCCER. WE HAVE VOLLEYBALL.

TEE BALL, BASEBALL, TWO UNDER WAY PICKLEBALL AND DISC GOLF.

RECREATIONAL CENTERS. WANT TO ADD THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HOLDING MORE SO GEARED TOWARD THE ADULTS PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. JAZZERCISE, DANCING, ZUMBA, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL STAFF, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE ON HAND THAT CAN HAVE THAT FACILITY OPEN TO DO THAT. ON THE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. SOCCER IS ONE THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET INTO RELATIVELY SOON WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPEN FIELD SPACE.

THIS WILL NOT BE A REGULATION SOCCER FIELD.

THAT WOULD BE A RATHER LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO HAVE THAT AS GOAL. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT ONE DAY, BUT FOR RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE PLENTY OF GREEN SPACE AT THE REC CENTER. A GOOD FIELD AT KALIL MACK FIELD. A PARTNERSHIP WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY THAT WE DIDN'T UTILIZE. AND SOCCER NOT THROUGH US BUT CRAPP DREAM LAND PARK, FOLKS OUT THERE BY THE HUNDREDS PLAYING SOCCER THERE. ESTIMATED COST OF PAY PLAYING IN

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THE BASKETBALL COURTS ARE DUAL PURPOSE.

WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO MOST VALLEYBALL AS WELL. ANOTHER ONE COST OF ENTRY TO THAT IS RELATIVELY LOW AND ESTIMATE THE COST $65 AS WELL PER PARTICIPANT. T-BALL AND BASEBALL.

WE NODE YEARS AGO IN THE WMCA, WE HAD TEE BALL IN THE Y.

THE FIELDS ARE STILL THERE. THEY DO NEED A TOUCH-UP BUT CAN OFFER OPPORTUNITIES THERE. DISCUSSING FINN PARK.

WE HAVE A PRACTICE FIELD THERE. ALL-PURPOSE PRACTICE FIELD.

POTENTIALLY DOWN THE ROAD WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE SOME FIELDS AT THE NORTHWEST PIONEERS PARK.

FIELDS THAT WE HAVE -- FIELDS THAT WE HAVE MARAVILLA, SOUTH 29TH STREET AND DREAM LAND PARK HAVE FIELDS THAT ARE UTILIZED ANNUALLY. FUTURE EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES.

PICKLEBALL. WE HAVE A NOTICE TO PROCEED OUT NOW FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WILL BE AT JAYCEE PARK.

WE KNOW THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW IS VERY BUSY.

AND OUR -- OUR ANTICIPATED START DATE HAS BEEN BUMPED BACK A FEW TIMES BUT WE ARE HOPEFUL LATE AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER THEY WILL GET INVOLVED IN THAT. THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. WE ARE LOOKING OF BUILDING THE PICKLEBALL COURTS MULTIPLE AT INDIAN HILLS GOLF COURSE.

THOSE BID DOCUMENTS ARE BEING PREPAREDY NOW AND THAT WILL BE GOING ON THE STREET HERE FOR THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE OF APPROXIMATELY $75 AND THOSE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THAT CAN COME OUT AND PLAY ON THE COURTS ANYTIME THEY WISHANYTIMETHEY WISH BRING A VISITOR $4 EVERY TIME THEY PLAY. BASKETS ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO OUT AND PLAY, THEY CAN DO NOW.

THE TREASURE COAST DISC GOLF ASSOCIATION WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHERE THEY WANTED THE TEES PLACED TO BE SUFFICIENT.

WE HAVE THE BID DOCS TO PUT OUT IN PURCHASING TO GET THAT OUT AND HAVE A CONTRACTOR PLACE THE TEE BOXES AND THAT IS 100% COMPLETE. AGAIN, IF ANYONE WANTED TO GO OUT TODAY TO PLAY, THEY COULD. THE OUTDOOR FITNESS STATIONS.

THEY ARE USED CONSTANTLY. THREE OTHERS IN THE WORK.

MORRIS CREEK LINEAR PARK IS SET TO RECEIVE ONE.

THE EXERCISE STATION FORFINN PARK.

THEY WILL BE DELIVERED TO US. AND WE WILL BE LOOK TO PLACE A FITNESS STATION AT LEWIS ELLIS PARK.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>>MAYOR: QUESTIONS OF PLAINTIFF REALS.

COMMISSIONERC. JON. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. THE MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL, IS THAT RESUMED NOW? I SEE A SLIDE ON THERE AT THE PERCY PEAK GYM. WHAT IS THE STATUS CURRENTLY?

>> CURRENTLY THE CITY'S RECREATION IS NOT HOSTING IT AT HURRICANE LAURADRC. MAY BE SOME OUT THERE AND I WILL FIND THAT INFORMATION. AND I BELIEVE IT IS RESUMED AT OUR GYM BUT I WILL GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WAS CURIOUS.

AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT REALLY DRIVE COMMUNITY -- COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND RECREATION IS TOP OF THAT. WE OFFER RECREATION AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO IF I CANNILY UNDERSTAND THAT AND I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ARE MAKING THAT INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE THESE THINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY CONSTITUENT TO WANT TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE CREATE AND PARTICIPATE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I SEE A NUMBER OF THINGS ON THERE FOR VOLUNTEERS. RIGHT.

AND THAT IS ALSO ONE OF THE GREATEST LIABILITY PERILS OF RECREATION DEALING WITH VOLUNTEERS, ETC.

I KNOW RECENTLY SOME STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN ENACTED THROUGH OUR STATE LEGISLATURE ON BACKGROUND CHECKS, ETC.

HAS THAT BEEN FACTORED IN HERE AND DO WE HAVE A PRETTY STRENUOUS PROCESS OF LOOKING AT OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THIS

INTERACTION? >> MADAM MAYOR, MR. JOHN, YES, WE DO. ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A

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WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING UP COACHING OUR KIDS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO IS LEADING A GROUP HAS BEEN THROUGH HR, AND THEY HAVE DONE THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I KNOW A HIGHER CALLING FOR SCREENING IN OUR OWN LOCAL DELEGATE HAS PUSHED THAT AND PASSED THROUGH LEGISLATION THIS YEAR AND I HOPE WE ARE RESPONSIVE AND PSALM THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE COST OF THAT, I AM BRING THAT UP AS A CONCERN. AND THEN I AM ALSO CONCERNED HOW WE ARE INVEST IN THESE VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THERE ARE MUCH MORE COMPONENTS THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH TODAY THAN THEXS ANDOS. AND THEN THIS IS THEIR OWN PERSONAL THAT DOES NO THE REFLECT ON OUR KIDS AND ONE THAT AS WE TAKE THIS STEP FORWARD, I AM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT I AM GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS AND OBSERVE IT.

I SEE OUR VOLUNTEERS BUT THEY ARE HUMAN AS WELL.

AND THEY CAN BE VERY POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON OUR KIDS AND THEY CAN ALSO DO DAMAGE TO OUR KIDS. SPORTS ARE COMPETITIVE, I GET THAT. BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THESE ARE KIDS AS WELL. AND KIDS WILL BE KIDS.

AND SOMETIMES WE PUT HIGH PRESSURE AND DEMANDS ON OUR YOUNG FOLKS. I JUST WANT US TO KNOW AS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS WE EMBARK ON THIS WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT AND MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERING THE BASE WITH THE PEOPLE WE ASK TO VOLUNTEER. A VERY SERIOUS TOPIC AND I PLAYED SPORTS HERE. AND SO DID COMMISSIONER GAINES.

BUT THE STUFF WE WENT THROUGH AS KIDS.

WE WERE BUILT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT SET OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THIS AND WE DEALT WITH IT.

I AM AFRAID OF SOME COUNTY THINGS I HEAR FROM ADULTS AND SOME OF THE KIDS ON THE FIELD AND THE PRESSURE THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THEM. THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE.

I AM LETTING YOU KNOW UP FRONT ON RECORD.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: I AGREE WITH YOU. LONG, LONG AGO WHEN YOU PLAYED SPORTS --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE ALL PLAYED SPORTS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT -- IN. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: THAT WAS A JOKE. OUR LARGEST ACTIVITY OF FOOTBALL AND CHEER. EVERY YEAR THAT ORGANIZATION.

THAT NATIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO US WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR VOLUNTEERS. THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE TO BE EDUCATED. THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AND TRAINED. IT IS BALL SAFETY.

ACTUALLY THESE KIDS -- BACK IN THE DAY KIDS WILL RUN TO EXHAUSTION. THEY WILL PASS OUT.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE. THIS IS A MORE GENTLE TYPE COACHING SITUATION WHERE IT IS ALL ABOUT EDUCATION, TRAINING AND REPETITION. SO WE GET THE EDUCATION THAT WE NEED AND THE TRAINING THAT THE VOLUNTEERS GET.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I HEAR YOU, MR. MIMMS. I WILL PUSH AND CHALLENGE THAT THAT THESE COACHES ARE DEALING WITH MENTAL INSECURITIES. THESE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY AND THEY COME BEARING WHATEVER THAT IS, THAT PRESSURE FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AND BRING IT TO THAT ENVIRONMENT AND THIS COACH IS REACTIVE TO THAT KID AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN THE FIELD.

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART FOR THE DEVELOPS REALIZE YOU ARE AT THE INTERSECTION NOW TO HELP US DEAL WITH THAT STUFF AND THAT IS A LOT OF PRESSURE PUT ON THEM.

AND I SEE IT AND A CONCERN OF MINE ALONG WITH THE FOOD INSECURITIES AS WELL WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

SOME I BEEN AT US TO KNOW AS WE ARE EMBARKING UPON EXPAND THIS, AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE GAME OF RECREATION IN SPORTS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TRY TO GET SOME RESOURCES THROUGH THE SUPPORT AND POINT THEM IN THE DIRECTION OF THESE RESO RESOURCES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF

OUR COMMUNITY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYBODY ELSE?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: COMMISSIONER JOHN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

BEING A TEAMMATE BACK WHEN CITY MANAGER MIMMS SAID A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME OF OUR COACHES THAT WE PLAYED UNDER MIGHT HAVE GONE TO JAIL IN THESE DAYS AND TIMES, JUST HOW IT WAS BACK THERE. NO SUCH THING AS A WATER BREAK.

YOU ASK FOR WATER, YOU DIDN'T PLAY.

BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED. LET ME FINISH UP WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST SAID, AS ONE WHO IS ACTIVELY COACHING RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE

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AND I WOULDN'T PUT IT ON THE COACHES BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO ME, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE POLICE CHIEF AND MAJOR HAVE A CONVERSATION. YOU MAKE THEM RECOGNIZE IT.

AND THEN YOU GET THE KIDS TO THE RIGHT -- RIGHT DESTINATION.

BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MOST KIDS THAT ARE ON THESE FIELDS WILL TELL THEIR COACHES STUFF THAT THEY WON'T TELL THEIR TEACHERS. THEY WON'T TELL THEIR PARENTS.

SO AS COACH, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT OKAY SHE OR HE IS JUST NOT SAYING THIS. I NEED TO DO SOMETHING PUT THAT IN MIND. HAVE SOME KIND OF TRAIN GOING YOU SEE THIS ISSUE OR A CHILD SAYS THIS, YOU NEED TO SEND THAT CHILD TO SOMEWHERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT A TRAGEDY, RIGHT NOW TEENAGED SUICIDE IS REALLY HIGH. THESE KIDS ARE REACHING OUT -- THESE KIDS ARE REACHING OUT TO A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS AND A LOT OF THESE COACHES AND COACHES ARE TAKING THE INFORMATION AND SITTING ON IT WHEN THEY COULD HAVE PASS IT ON TO A DIRECTOR OR SOMEBODY ELSE AND GET SOME HELP. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE GOING.

SO I AM. AND SECOND THING THAT THE CITY MANAGER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT TEE BALL AND BASEBALL. I SAW THE LOOK WHEN LOOKING AT LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. I GOT YOU.

I WILL WORK ON THAT. MISSING A SPORT.

I WILL GIVE YOU A SPORT THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, IF THEY JUMP ON NOW, THAT WE CAN BE A LEADER AGAIN.

WE ARE TALKING OF BEING A LEADER IS YOUTH LA CROSSE.

YOUTH LA CROSSE. I AM GETTING A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE ASKING ME HOW TO PLAY LACROSS.

IT IS UP NORTH AND COMING DOWN SO SOUTH. WE HAVE ENOUGH FIELDS TO PLAY LACROSSE. UP TO A SERIOUS POINT WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. WITH WE HAVE TO HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER TRAINING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, BUT NOT THAT YOU WANT YOUR VOLUNTEERS AND COACHES TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL ISSUES OR WHATEVER. IT IS SEND THEM SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THESE COACHES AND -- ARE HEARING STUFF TO COME OUT AND COACH FOOTBALL. AND HAND STUFF -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE REPORT IT OR NOT BUT JUST ONE REPORT CAN SAVE A KIDS L LIFE.

>> IF I CAN -- US ANTICIPATING WHAT OTHER RESOURCE THAT'S WE CAN MARSHAL AND SEND THEM. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT NOW GETTING COUNSELORS AND TO DEAL WITH IT SO THE COACH -- HAVE THE RESOURCE TO SAY I CAN NUT KID IN CONTACT WITH THIS PERSON BECAUSE OF THAT IS IT. THAT'S WHERE I AM TRYING TO GO WITH THAT. YOU SAID THAT EXACTLY RIGHT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT'S IT.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE EXCELLENT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS WELL AND WE CAN CREATE A LIST OF THOSE RESOURCES AND THE CHIEF IS OPENING A REC HOUSE AT THE FACILITY. AND ANOTHER RESOURCE WITHIN OUR FOUR WALLS RIGHT THERE NOTED AND WE WILL WORK WITH THAT FOR SURE.

AND YOU BRING SOMEONE WHO CAN RUN A LACROSSE PROGRAM, A VOLUNTEER AND YOU CAN EXPLORE THAT MUCH MORE RAPIDLY.

WE NEED THE VOLUNTEERS TO COME IN AND HELP US RUN THIS PROGRAM.

AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE GREEN SPACE FOR LACROSSE.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I CAN E-MAIL YOU THAT NAME TODAY.

I MIGHT GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

I AM USED TO IT. I HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CHIEF. AND SHE IS NOT GETTING ENOUGH

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MADE HERSELF OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR THE YOUNG WOMEN IN OUR COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY TO RELY ON.

BECAUSE I AM A MALE COACH AND A FEMALE ATHLETE IN ST. LUCY COUNTY IS ONLY GOING TO SAY SO MUCH TO ME, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS DEALING WITH A RELATIONSHIP ISSUE OR SOMETHING GOING ON.

I SAY HOLD ON AND CHIEF FIRST GOT HERE AND CAME OUT TO TALK TO US AND SAID COACH, IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, I'M HERE FOR THESE YOUNG LEADERS. I WANT TO GIVE HER A GREAT THANK YOU TODAY BECAUSE SHE HAS DONE T THAT. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER%.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: JUST BRIEFLY LOOK AT THESE FEES AND THE KIDS AND VOLUNTEERS TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT IS THE BIG COST OF IT. JUST IN THE FINANCE ASPECTS OF IT ALL, OF THESE RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, HOW MUCH OF THE FEES DOES IT OFFSET THE ACTUAL COST WITH EQUIPMENT AND ALL THE THINGS GOING ON. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA BECAUSE I NKNOW IT DOESN'T COVER IT ALL AD I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

>> LARGER PROGRAM. THE FEES ARE NOT COVERING THE COST OF THE PROGRAM AT ALL. THE OTHER THINGS WE ARE DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS, THOSE COST ARE CLOSE TO COVERING WHAT IT IS TO OPERATE THOSE. OUR SUMMER CAMP, IT IS NOT PAYING FOR ALL THAT. SO THERE IS FUNDS EXPENSED WE FEEL IT IS A COST WELL SPENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND OF THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM, IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING THAN TO HAVE THE LIGHTS ON AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO COVER IT.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYER WE ARE, AND THAT TAXPAYER HAS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY ALSO. AND I -- THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY IS UNBLEBELIEVABLE I ASKED COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THIS MORNING IS IT -- SOMETHING IN OUR WATER AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY ATHLETES AND SO MANY GREAT.

YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A STANDOUT.

THE AVERAGE ATHLETE IS BETTER THAN MOST OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE. AND IT IS JUST AMAZING TO BE A PART OF THAT. AND I AM GLAD THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS MADE THAT INVESTMENT AND THIS HAS COME BACK IN A BIGGER RETURN THAN ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO.

>> THE AMOUNT OF TALENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS UNBELIEVABLE. THE PROGRAM THAT WE DID OFFER WAS AFFORDABLE ENOUGH THAT MAYBE THAT TALENT HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY IN AN ORGANIZED LEAGUE.

WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AVENUE.

IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE. AND JUST IN CLARITY, A CHILD IS NOT GOING TO BE REFUSED BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT COME UP WITH THE $$50. ARE THEY.

>COMMISSIONER GAINES: JUST TO PSALM THAT IS A GREAT POINT.

THE PEOPLE WATCH THIS BUDGET SAYING WHY ARE WE DOING THIS.

JUST PSALM THAT MOST OF THESE TEAMS AND MOST OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS PAY THAT FEE, BUT THEN THEY ALSO GO OUT AND DO THE FUND RAISING TO HELP THE CITY AND HELP THE TEAM, BECAUSE THEY BUILD -- SAY THIS IS YOUR FIELD. YOUR TEAM.

AND THERE ARE FUNDRAISER THAT'S THESE LEAGUES ARE NOT COMING BACK ASKING THE CITY FOR EVERYTHING.

WE MAKE THE KIDS GO OUT AND SAY YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS YOU COME OUT HERE AND WATCH THIS.

AND THERE ARE OTHER NUMBERS THAT COME IN THAT I GUESS YOU CAN SIT DOWN TO SEE BUT NOT JUST PAY ME $100.

BY THE WAY WE NEED X AMOUNT OF MONEY.

GO OUT AND SELFISH, WHATEVER -- WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO.

SELL BREAKFASTS, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THE KIDS TO PSALM. I THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT IT IS A GREAT INVESTMENT, BUT WE DO -- THE COACHES AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I HAVE WITNESSED TO HAVE FUNDRAISERS SO

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THAT THEY PSALM EVERYTHING AND IT WAS -- IT WAS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND -- COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON AND I WASN'T SWORN IN YET. WE WENT TO ORLANDO AND YOU SAW THE COMMUNITY AND THE PARENTS AND ALL THOSE JOURNEYS AND EVERYTHING WEARING COMMISSIONERS, THE PARENTS GOT TOGETHER AND MADE A FUNDRAISER FOR THOSE JERSEYS AND MADE MONEY. LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT IS HOW THEY GET THROUGH IT. MADAM MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I WANTED TO ADD A PLUG FOR LACROSSE AND SOMEONE CAME TO ME AND ASKED. AND I AM NOT SURE THAT THAT PERSON IS QUALIFIED TO COACH BUT SEEMS TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS WHO DON'T COACH BUT IS VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN LACROSSE IN FORT PIERCE.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO RE-EMPHASIZE THAT THE PARENTS ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THESE PROGRAMS TOO FOR MY MEMORY BROUGHT THE FIRE WALKS TO THE CHAMBER.

THE CHAMBER WAS FULL OF PARENTS WHO WERE VERY DEDICATED TO THIS PROGRAM WHO PROBABLY CAN BE A HELP IN TERMS OF MONITORING THE VOLUNTEERS AND IN TERMS OF ALSO SOMETIMES.

I REMEMBER FROM MY SON'S SPORTS DAYS, PARENTS CAN SOMETIMES BE A PROBLEM. I HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I ALSO REMEMBER THAT YOU SAID YOU EMPHASIZED ACADEMICS AS WELL.

EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A COACH AND PARENT INVOLVED, EVERYBODY WAS EXPECTED TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR ACADEMICS AND THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE LISTEN TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST TALKING OF PLAYING A SPORT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE CHILD, THE PARENT, HIS FAMILY, HER FAMILY.

AND I AM ALSO WONDERING ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS FIELDS AT LONGWOOD. ANY CROSSOVER THAT FORT PIERCE WITH PLAY AT THOSE FIELDS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS.

THEY HAVE BASEBALL FOR SPRING TRAINING BUT I DON'T KNOW MUCH

ABOUT THAT. >> MADAM MAYOR, MR. MIMMS MAY HAVE CONVERSATION WITH HOWARD THAT I AM NOT AWARE OF, BUT THE ONLY AGREEMENT WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY IS TO UTILIZE MACK FIELD.

I DON'T KNOW ON SPORTS COMPLEX. WE CAN REACH OUT TO SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH ST.

LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS AND THE TRACK AT DAN M[L]CCARTY.

BUT ADDITIONALLY IF WE NEED MORE GREEN SPACE, WE CAN GO INTO SCHOOLS AND UTILIZE WITH SPORTS ACTIVITY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS LONGWOOD A SOCCER FIELD?

MR. MIMMS, SORRY. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: LONGWOOD HAS DEDICATED SOCCER TO THE EAST OF LONGWOOD STADIUM.

IT IS RESERVED PRIMARILY FOR FOOTBALL.

SOCCER FIELD IS VERY BUSY. I WOULD SAY SOCCER IS THE MOST POPULAR SPORT IN THIS AREA. UTILIZING THAT FACILITY AT LONGWOOD COMES WITH A PRICE. THE WAY WE KEEP OUR CASTS DOWN, AND ACTUALLY OUR COSTS ARE THE MOST REASONABLE IN THE THRESHTURE COAST THAT WE HAVE FACILITIES.

WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RECREATION CENTER, A GREAT SPORTS FIELD AND HAVE A TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY. WHEN I SAY THAT AND TALK ABOUT THE COST TALKING OF THE CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF A LITTLE FELLOW NAMED MAN-MAN. SO DEPUTY CHIEF SPONSORED HIM TO PLAY FOR US AND A BEAST. AVENUES MONSTER BUT WENT TO GREENER PASTURES. GOT RECRUITED BY ANOTHER ORGANIZATION AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET HIM BACK.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE OF THE SPONSORSHIP AND BECAUSE OF BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE SEEING OUR CHILDREN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL OF THESE -- THIS ARRAY OF ACTIVITIES AND THESE KIDS NEED IT AND WE ESTABLISH RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM.

SO MANY CHILDREN LIVING WITH RELATIVES AND GRANDPARENTS AND FASTER PARENTS COMING FROM GUARDIAN AD LITEM.

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BUILDING A CONNECTION. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

MADAM MAYOR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONERJ.

JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: TO COMMENT ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF.

THE WAY I SEE IT, YOU BEGIN A RECREATION PROGRAM AND STARTING OUT LIKE WE ARE, STARTING OVER AND ENLARGE IT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EXPERTS ON WHAT WE DO AND WE DO IT WELL. WHAT I SEE IS SO GLAD WE HAVE THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE HUB OF OUR STUDENTS.

WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR RECREATIONAL FACILITY FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR PARTICIPANTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB AT IT. WE GET THE KIDS IN A SPOT.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE AN EXPERT IN TEE BALL, BASEBALL AND LACROSSE, WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE AGENCY.

FOOTBALL IS SO GOOD BECAUSE PARTNERING WITH POP WARNER AND VOLUNTEERS AND BACKGROUND CHECKS AND BASKETBALL PROGRAMS -- WHAT IS THE NEWEST ONE. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN BASEBALL, IT WAS BABE RUTH AND TRANSITIONED -- OR AMERICAN LEGION BASEBALL. BASKETBALL ISNI -- AAU AND ANOTHER ONE. ANYWAY, I KNOW THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT. PART IN INNING WITH THESE AGENCIES IS CRITICAL FOR US, I BELIEVE.

I THINK LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL. WE HAVE DREAMLAND PARK.

I GREW UP PRACTICES AT DREAMLAND PARK.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE PRACTICE AT DREAMLAND PARK.

WE ARE ANTICIPATING AS A CITY AND THAT IS INTEGRAL.

I WAS GOING TO ASK OF DAN M[L]CCARTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND MANY GREEN SPACESMCCARTY TH AND MANY GREEN SPACES AND ANSWERING TO THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THE SUMMER CAMP. WE WANT CHILDREN TO PARTICIPATE.

LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT US TO BE EXPERTS AT ALL OF THEM.

I DON'T SEE THEM AS A VISION. I SEE THEM AS BEING THE RESOURCE AND PEOPLE CAN COME AND GO EVERY SINGLE DAY AND PARTICIPATE MCCARTY THOSE THAT ARE NATIONAL PROGRAMS AND OR JUST THE EXPERTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THAT NICHE MARKET.

THE LACROSSE COACH. YOU NEED THAT.

LACROSSE ORGANIZATION. THAT IS HUGE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHATEVER IT IS. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: AND DIAL IN JUST TO DAN M[L]CCARTY.

AND DO WE HAVE OTHER AGREEMENTS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT OR A

UTILIZATION OF FIELDS? >> WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT MCCARTY DAN M[L]CCARTY. WE MAINTAIN THE LIGHTS OUT THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE PURPOSING THE TRACK.

MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY IS RECEIVED. AND IT WAS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS OVER CHAMPION{SUFFIX}SHIPS. THE CHAMPIONSHIPS WILL COME BEFORE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS ON BOARD AND ONE FORT PIERCE.

WE WANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL -- FOR ALL AGES AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DRIVING TO DO. COVID SET US BACK AND NOW WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE DO WANT TO PURSUE HOPEFUL THAT THE NEXT REPORT WE GIVE WILL SHOW THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE AND COMMISSIONER JOHN, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE THE EXPERTS IN EVERYTHING AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY KID OUT THERE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME

SOMETHING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. A GREAT REPORT.

LOOK FORWARD TO THE LACROSSE TEAM AND DIVING TEAM AND THE GOLF TEAM. YOU GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, MR. REA REALS.

[e. Discussion regarding City Commission meeting start time at the request of Mayor Hudson.]

>> EXCUSE ME, THE NEXT ITEM IS REGARDING THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING START TIME AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR HUDSON.

>> I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF A WHILE AND IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THE BACKUP, ONE OF THE REASON IS THAT WE SUGGESTING TO CHANGE OUR START TIME TO 5:05 FOR EVERY MEETING BECAUSE THAT IS CONSISTENT. AND SO THEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, IS THAT THE 4:30 MEETING OR THE 6:00

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IT CAUSES ONE OF THE MAIN WORRIES THAT I HAVE MINISTER GOING TO SHOW UP AT 4:0 OR 6. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF AGENDA ITEMS. WE ARE GROWING.

AND I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR CONSISTENCY SO THAT WE -- SO WE DO HAVE THE LATE NIGHTS.

AND -- YOU KNOW, THE LATER THE NIGHTS, SOMETIMES THE LESS THAT YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE ITEM AND IT GETS PEOPLE HOME EARLIER THAN THEY WOULD. I BRING IT TO YOU FOR YOUR

DISCUSSION AND SUGGESTION. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, COMMENT ON THIS. I DID READ THE MEMO ON THIS.

AND I WATCHED THIS BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO THE SEAT AND THE DISCUSSION IN THE PAST CONCERNING THIS.

AND BREAK FROM WHAT THEN WAS A TRADITION I THINK WAS 6:00 -- THEN 4:30. 6:00 AND THEN THE 4:30.

THE ONE POINT I WILL AGREE SOME CONSISTENCY OF WHATEVER STATE AND THE TIME. AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND WHAT WOULD CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT IS WE HAVE THAT PART OF AGENDA THAT IS UP-FRONT THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, RIGHT. AND IN MY CONCERN.

A 5:05 START TIME WILL BE -- WE GET TO THAT PRETTY QUICK.

WITHIN FIVE MINUTES, SIX MINUTES, WE ARE INTO THAT PART CALLING FOR PROCLAMATIONS, ETC. SO THAT WOULD BE -- THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. I THINK LOOKING AT THAT AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, COULD THERE BE A COMPROMISE OF 5:30.

SO PEOPLE GET OFF AT 5:00. THAT GIVES THEM 30 MINUTES TO GET HERE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ENGAGE US AS A SITTING BODY OF A STILL OF ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE HERE GETS US CONSISTENCY UP FROM THAT 6 AND MOVES THE 4:30 BACK AN HOUR AND THAT WAY WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE 5:30 SAND GETS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT 5:40 READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT POINT.

THOSE WHO GET OFF AT 5:00, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, WOULD STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END AS WELL, BUT OBVIOUSLY RECENTLY WE HAD SOME LIVELY DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. BUT AS I LOOKED AT IT, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THE MOST PEOPLE WANT TO ENGAGE AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WHEN ITEMS COME UP THAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON SPECIFICALLY WHICH IS GOOD WHICH IS WHAT IT IS FOR.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COMMENT ON DEFER WHATEVER THEY WANT TO COMMENT ON, WILL HAVE THAT

OPPORTUNITY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMES AT THE ENDS OF THE MEETING. REALLY -- I THOUGHT THROUGH THAT AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA REQUIRES AFTER -- FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND WE DO THAT FOR THAT YOU ARE BUDGET.

AND LOOKING OVER THE MEETINGS IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, WE HAD VERY LITTLE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT EARLY PART BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHEN PEOPLE GET TO TALK.

SO -- I THINK THERE IS SOME -- SOME NIGHTS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT ALL IN THE EARLIER PART OF THE MEETING.

>> LATELY WE VICE PRESIDENT HAD ANYBODY SIGN UP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. SO I JUST BRING IT TO YOU FOR

YOUR -- >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MADAM

MAYOR? >>MAYOR: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: IT WAS 6:30 FOREVER, BELIEVE ME.

IT WAS FOREVER. AND THERE WERE SOME REAL PROBLEMS MCCARTY THAT. A LOT OF TIMES WE WENT FROM A MONDAY TO A TUESDAY AND STILL HERE.

THREE OF US WERE INVOLVED IN CHANGE THIS COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO WE WERE TRYING TO CHANGE IT AROUND LITTLE BIT AND TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE. ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE DO THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACT IN A NEGATIVE WAY BUT I NEVER RECEIVED A XHAPT OF THE EARLIER MEETING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVEN'T EITHER.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I THINK IT IS ACCOMMODATING.

IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE COMMISSION, 5:00, 10:00.

YOU WILL MAKE IT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE THERE.

MAKE THAT EXCEPTION AND GOING TO THE DOCTORS AND THE DENTIST,

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HAVING SAID ALL THAT, IT WOULD BE VERY DISINGENUOUS OF ME TO JUMP IN HERE TO TELL YOU WHICH WAY I WANT TO GO.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT NEVER STOPPED YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: NOT THAT I AM COUNTING DOWN THE NINE MEETINGS I HAVE LET'S, BUT I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU BROUGHT OUT SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS IN YYOUR YOUR E-MAIL TO US.. THE CONSISTENCY IS IMPORTANT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND ALSO IG TO HAVE THE AVAILABILITY FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT AT 5:00 AND 6:00 AND 7:00 AT NIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE WATCHING KIDS AND DOING THIS OR THAT.

WE START TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE TWO DIFFERENT TIMES WHERE YOU CAN BE PART OF THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING PROCESS AND WE MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE A PART OF THAT. WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND

WHEREVER THE MAJORITY GOES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU WILL SHOW

UP. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES,

COMMISSIONERJ. JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I WAS A PROPONENT OF 4 P.M. AND THERE IS A CONTINGENT OF FOLKS WHO HAVE EVENING SHIFTS AND WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK TO US WHILE HAVING MAYBE A BABY SITTER COMING IN AND HELPING MCCARTY CHILDREN. AND I AM KIND OF STILL IN THAT REALM. I PSALM WHAT CONSISTENCY MEANS, AND THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH AT 4:30 P.M. IS PRETTY CONSISTENT. IT IS ON THE CALENDAR AND EVERY TIME THERE IS -- THERE IS THE THIRD -- THE THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH WHICH IS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH.

IT IS CONSISTENTLY AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I PSALM WHAT YOU MEAN. AND I -- AND I APPRECIATE THE MEMO THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM HERE.

I JUST A PROPONENT OF MOVING THE SECOND MEET TO A 4:00 A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED AFTER 5 P.M. THAT'S WHERE I AM FOR NOW. I CAN BE SWAYED ONE WAY OR THE

OTHER. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY.

YOU GOT AN OPINION, COMMISSIONER GAINES?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, NOT REALLY.

I READ THE MEMO, AND, YOU KNOW, AND MY OTHER HAT, I LIKE THE -- IF I KNOW I HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING AND IT IS A CERTAIN DAY, I HAVE TO STOP AND THINK SOMETIME WHEN I AM ASKED WHAT TIME IS THE MEETING. I HAVE TO, LIKE, STEP BACK AND -- OKAY, WHICH MEETING -- I AM STILL LEARNING, WHICH MEETING IS THIS. IT WOULD BE EASIER TO SAY FIRST AND THIRD AT SUCH AND SUCH TIME. 5:35.

5:05, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT I UNDERSTAND JUST SITTING HERE LISTENING. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT -- THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT REALLY DON'T LIKE TO -- I AM SPEAKING OF MY ELDERLY COMMUNITY NOW WHO DON'T LIKE TO DRIVE AT NIGHT. AND THEY ARE AFRAID TO COME AT THIS 6:0 OR THIS 6:00 MEETING AND GET CAUGHT IN NIGHTTIME AND MAYBE THE 4:30 START WILL GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO SAY WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND GET BACK HOME BEFORE DARK BECAUSE IT IS JUST -- IN THEIR MIND, THEY SEE BETTER OR DRIVE BETTER WHEN THERE IS A LITTLE LIGHT OUT. SO 5:05 START.

APPEAR 5:05 START, WE ARE REALLY ASKING 35 MINUTES MORE, YOU KNOW. I COULD LIVE MCCARTY THAT.

BUT THEN AGAIN I AM LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES AND WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE IT AT A 5:05 AND NEEDED -- NEEDED THAT 30 MINUTE WINDOW TO THINK BACK HOME OF THE NIGHTTIME JOB.

AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT DO WORK AT NIGHT.

THEY HAVE THAT NIGHT SHIFT. AND I AM -- I WILL -- I WILL -- I HAVE TO BE HERE ANYWAY. AND WHATEVER --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU ARE GO TO SHOW UP TOO.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: WHATEVER TIME WE DECIDE.

READING YOUR MEMO, I UNDERSTAND -- MY LIFESTYLE, I LIKE TO HAVE ONE TIME, ONE DATE, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS FIRST AND THIRD.

OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. FIRST AND THIRD.

I KNOW I SAID THIS TIME. SAID THAT TIME.

JUST EASY -- EASIER FOR MYSELF AND NOT HERE FOR THE RESIDENT OF

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I WILL BE HERE. BUT SITTING AND LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES TODAY BECAUSE I WAS -- AFTER READING YOUR MEMO, I WAS LIKE -- DO THE 5:05. THIS IS PERFECT.

LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WILL WANT TO KEEP IT OR MOVE IT. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND EVEN IF THAT -- IF THAT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION.

LIKE I SAID, I GOT TO BE HERE. SO I WILL BE HERE AT 4:00.

BUT JUST. THE ONE THING MCCARTY THE SEAT FOR ME WAS ADJUSTING TO ALL THE TIMES AND EVEN LIKE -- I AM LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER PERONA. THE RETIREMENT BOARD AND ALL THESE OTHER BOARDS. YOU KNOW IT IS ON SUCH AND SUCH DATE AND AT 2:00. AND SAY, HEY YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T HERE MCCARTY THE BACK AND FORTH AND WHY WE CHANGED IT. THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERFECT TIME WOULD BE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE TIME THAT WE MEET AND GET IT OUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND

THE CONCERNS OF MY COLLEAGUES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONERJ.

JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION AND I REMEMBER PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE 20 WORKING DAYS IN A MONTH.

I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF STAFF EFFICIENCY ALSO AND THIS BUILDING BEING EFFICIENT AND ON AND OPERATING AT AN EARLIER START TIME. ONE TIME PER MONTH.

I CAN TELL YOU FROM A PERSON WHO USED TO WORK IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR GOING TO COMMISSION MEETINGS LATE AT NIGHT.

THE NEXT MORNING, YOU GOT TO BE HERE AT WORK.

BECAUSE WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AT 8 A.M. AND NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST. WE HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A LITTLE MORE REMOTE WORKING NOW AND WE GOT THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT I DO REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION.

I WAS A BIG PROPONENT OF THE EARLIER START TIME FOR THAT REASON. AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS JUST -- JUST SOME POSITIVES ABOUT THAT. STAND WASN'T ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT -- THAT ALWAYS COULDN'T BE HERE AT THE START OF THE FINISH OR -- THERE WAS ONE MEETING A MONTH WHERE AT A -- OUT OF 20 DAYS IN A MONTH -- WORKING DAYS IN A MONTH, THAT IS, THAT I JUST WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT THAT ASPECT OF IT TOO.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I GET THAT. I LOVE THE 4:30 START.

I AM NOT -- I -- I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR CONSISTENCY AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DEAL MCCARTY THINGS IN A FRESH MANNER WHEN THE HOUR GETS LATE. LATELY, A FEW MEETINGS WE GOTTEN OUT OF HERE WHERE IT IS STILL LIGHT, WHICH IS KIND OF A NICE THING, BUT OBVIOUSLY, I AM THE ONE WHO HAS THE LOOSEST SCHEDULE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A JOB. MY ONLY JOB IS BEING MAYOR OF FORT PIERCE. THIS WASN'T PROPOSED FOR MY CONVENIENCE. THIS WAS PROPOSED PRIMARILY FOR CONSISTENCY AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW, WHICH WE HAVE SO FAR. BUT HAVING THIS START TIME BE IMMEDIATELY AFTER 5:00. SO -- I WAS THINKING OF THE PUBLIC AND I WAS THINKING OF THE STAFF TOO.

SO MADAM MAYOR, IF I CAN. WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS CONSISTENCY. LET'S PICK AND FIND A TIME.

COMMISSIONER, I AM SORRY -- COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AT 4:00.

I CAN'T QUITE GET THERE MCCARTY YOU, COMMISSIONER, AT 4:00.

I THINK THE STATUTORY YOU MENTION MCCARTY THE BUDGET IS AFTER 5:00. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN A WINDOW OF 4:35 BE 5:30 WILL BE WITH US TO BE CONSISTENT. AND IF IT IS 5:05 OBVIOUSLY WE CAN MAKE IT. AND WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS -- ALL OF US UP HERE HAVE SOME -- SOME -- MORE ACCESS TO THE.PUBLIC, RIGHT. AND I THINK IN MY TWO YEARS SITTING HERE, I HAVE GOTTEN E-MAILS, I HAD PERSONAL VISITS ON MY OFFICE HOURS AT CITY HALL AND THE LINCOLN PARK -- THE

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BUT ALSO NOTE THAT PEOPLE WRITE US AND SEND US E-MAILS AND WE RESPOND TO THAT, RIGHT. BUT IT DOESN'T SUBSTITUTE THAT PERSON COMING TO STAND HERE AND TALK TO ALL FIVE OF US AT ONE PARTICULAR TIME WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY WANTS TO EXPRESS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. AND KNOWING THAT.

YOU KNOW THAT IS WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR.

AND THE 5:00 THING. 5:05, 5:0ISH.

THAT LITTLE EXTRA BUFFER. I WILL GO 5:15.

I DO UNDERSTAND STAFF AND STAFF HAVING TO TURN AROUND.

I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THAT NEXT MORNING AND BEING HERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- YOU KNOW, WE -- WE ARE COGNIZANT OF AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND THE ONE RULE OF POLITICS IS YOU DON'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

YOU DON'T. WE TRY TO FIND A COMPROMISE.

AND ALSO WHERE I COME DOWN ON SOLUTION IS THAT I HAVE TWO DISTINCT OFFICE HOUR TIMES. ONE IN THE MORNING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LEISURELY EMPLOYED. UNEMPLOYED OR RETIRED OR THOSE WHO WORK AND CAN MEET ME IN THE AFTERNOON AND I HAVE THOSE.

I INTENTIONALLY HAVE THOSE BECAUSE I WANT TO LISTEN, UNDERSTAND AND HAVE PEOPLE WITH THEIR CONCERN SO I CAN REPRESENT THEM HERE. THAT IS WHERE I AM AT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY, I GUESS WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS EXCEPT THAT -- AT LEAST THREE OF US CAN GO TO 5:00ISH. WE CAN'T PUBLICIZE 5ISH.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MAYOR, REAL QUICK.

MY COLLEAGUE TO THE LEFT THREW ME A CURVEBALL.

THAT WAS A GOOD PUN. YOU THREW ME THE CURVEBALL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT WAS THE CURVEBALL.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THE CITY EMPLOYEE THAT'S WE HAVE HERE -- WE HAVE HERE ALL NIGHT ON THEM LATE NIGHTS AND THEY HAVE TO BE

BACK AT 8:30. >> GOING TO SAY NOT A BIG DEAL.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: JUST DON'T CONSIDER US.

WE WILL BE FINE. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: IT IS A TOUGH NEXT MORNING, I PROMISE YOU.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE HAVE COFFEE FOR THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I HEARD YOU.

AND THIS BUDGET -- THIS RULE NOTHING PAST THE BUDGET HAS TO

BE AFTER 5:00. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS SCHEDULE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS 5 D 05.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, YOU SAID A 5:05 START.

WHAT DOES A 4:45 START? A 4:45? BECAUSE IT GETS -- IT GETS -- EARLIER.

IT GETS HERE EARLIER. GETS YOUR EARLY MEETINGS.

AND GETS YOUR EARLY MEETING. WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

THE PEOPLE -- STILL HAS ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GET HERE LIKE COMMISSIONER PERONA SAID. HE IS COUNTING NINE MEETINGS LEFT -- I HEARD YOU HAD THE CORRECT NUMBER DOWN, NINE

MEETINGS LEFT. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: NOT THAT

I AM COUNTING. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: WE KNOW YOU ARE COUNTING. LET ME THINK ABOUT THIS WONE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE ASKED MR. P. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING, MADAM MAYOR, BUDGET MEETINGS HAVE COME UP.

MEETINGS SPECIFIC TO CHANGES IN OUR BUDGET APPROVAL, ETC., ARE REQUIRED TO BE HELD AFTER 5 P.M. PER FLORIDA STATUTE.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER STATUTORY PROVISIONS FOR OTHER TYPES OF APPROVALS WHERE AT ONE PUBLIC HEARING MIGHT BE HELD AFTER 5 P.M. SOME OF THOSE MAY INCLUDE CHANGES TO OUR ZONING CODE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO OUR USE TABLE BROWN FIELD DESIGNATION. A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT FLORIDA STATUTES.

THE THINGS I CAME UP WITH THE CURSORY SEARCH.

THAT IS PART OF THE REASON -- IF I AM ASKED TO WEIGH IN, I WOULD RECOMMEND IF WE ARE PICKING A CONSISTENT TIME ONE OF THOSE BE

AFTER 5:00 P.M. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT'S

WHAT I FIGURE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BUT NOT ONE OF

THEM WAS CONSISTENT. >> LET ME CLARIFY, AFTER 5:00.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING MADAM MAYOR WITH THE AFTER 5ISH DIDN'T. AS I THINK ABOUT IT AND I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THIS AGENDA AND START AT 5:305, PROBABLY GET THE

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THAT IS MY THEME FOR TODAY'S MEETING IS COMMUNICATION.

BECAUSE OFTEN -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS FOREVER.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: IT IS. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WITH A LACK OF COMMUNICATION, WE HAVE A LINE OF PEOPLE HERE WITH CONCERNS THAT ARE -- EXACTLY. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

AND IF WE CAN -- IF WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK TO US.

I GET THAT, BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE LONG MEETINGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE MISINFORMED, UNINFORMED, OR INTENTIONALLY WANT TO DERIVE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DERIVE FROM COMING HERE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS CONSISTENT. I AM FINE WITH ANYTHING AFTER 5:00. I THINK THAT IS A COMPROMISE THAT I CAN GET WITH HERE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW.

BUT I THINK AS WE AND I ALWAYS ABOUT HELPING US COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AND WE OWE THAT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS TOO AND WE HAVE STEPPED UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS OFFICE HOURS AND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY BEING VISIBLE SO PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET TO US WITH WHATEVER ISSUE WE HAVE HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO CAN I GET A CONSENSUS OF AT LEAST THREE OF US FOR 5:05? STILL EARLY, COMMISSIONERJ.

JOHNSON. IT IS NOT 4:30, BUT STILL EARLY.

EARLIER THAN 6:00. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

COMPROMISE FROM 4 TO 4:30. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOUR COMPROMISE

HAVE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: 30 MINUTES. A BIG DEAL.

BECAUSE I JUST -- I THINK BEING CONSISTENT ON THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH AT A CERTAIN TIME IS BEING CONSISTENT.

I THINK DEFINING SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH AT A CERTAIN TIME IS BEING CONSISTENT. THAT IS THE WAY I DEFINE IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SURE, THAT'S FINE.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MAYOR, YOU SAID 5:05.

WHILE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS THINKING ABOUT IT, 5:05, I AM OKAY WITH THAT. WHATEVER TIME WE SET, I WILL BE HERE. SO I AM FINE WITH THAT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS NOT FOR US.

I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BE HERE AND I AM GOING TO BE HERE AND EVEN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS GOING TO BE HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: HE IS GOING TO BE HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU MIGHT SHOW UP AT 4:30.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: GET A KICK OUT OF THIS ONE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY. IT'S HARD FOR YOU, I KNOW, BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SAY NO ABOUT THIS.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: LET ME THROW THIS MONKEY WRENCH IN HERE. IS IT -- SHALL WE WAIT.

WE DO KNOW THAT IT IS THAT IMPORTANT.

WE KNOW THAT COMMIS COMMISSIONER PERONA, THAT SEAT WILL BE A NEW SEAT. IS IT GOING THAT WE SHOULD

CONSIDER? >>MAYOR: FINE WITH ME.-- IF YOU WANT TO HOLD IT OFF FOR NINE MORE MEETINGS AND JEREMIAH CAN MUSTER HIS ARGUMENTS TO GET A LITTLE BIT STRONGER.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: HERE IS THE THING, MADAM MAYOR.

HERE IS THE THING IN MY OPINION. YOU ARE PROPOSING -- AND THIS HAS TO BE A RESOLUTION AND HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT.

LET'S HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE TO SAY.

THEY WILL LISTEN TO THIS AND WE WILL PROPOSE THIS NEW START TIME. THAT WILL GIVE THEM TIME TO TALK TO US INDIVIDUALLY, WEIGH IN ON THIS, AND IF WE COME BACK, MAYBE PUT IT BACK 5:15, 5:30. BUT 5:05 AS A CONSENSUS AND GET PEOPLE -- WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSION AND NOT A FORMAL VOTE, BUT TO MOVE IT FORWARD FOR ANY TYPE OF RESPONSE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WOULD LIKE TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING AND IF THEY REACT TO THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I AM NOT SURE THAT A RESOLUTION

REQUIRES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: BUT THEY WILL -- THEY WILL COME. I AM TRYING TO GET THEM TO TALK TO ME. I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE THE DECISION. I WANT THEM TO HELP ME AND HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.

THAT'S ALL I AM TRYING TO GET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR.%, ARE YOU

GOING TO BREAK YOUR SILENCE? >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: REALLY THIS IS THE COMMISSION'S MEETING AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE THEM AND BE A PART OF IT, BUT THE PRIORITY HERE IS THE CITY'S BUSINESS AND THE COMMISSION THAT SIT HERE AND THE STAFF THAT SUPPORTS THEM. KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU GO

FORWARD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS OUR

BUSINESS MEETING. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: OUR BUSINESS MEETING. SOMETIMES WE CONFUSE AND PLAY TO THE AUDIENCE, BUT REALLY IT IS ABOUT US HERE COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER COMING UP WITH THE APPROPRIATE MEASURE THAT'S MOVE

THE CITY FORWARD. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, BUT THEM WHO PUT US UP HERE.

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BUSINESS OF THE CITY. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU GET

TO VOTE ON IT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I GET TO TAKE THE HEAT UP FRONT AND ON THE BACK END.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: TO ADD IN THERE BEFORE YOU TWO GET INTO IT IS

THAT -- >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I AM

FINE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE DOES.

AND THERE -- THE STATE LEGISLATOR -- IT IS OUR BUSINESS MEETING AND WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE SEE FIT AS FAR AS OUR RESIDENTS, BUT SOMETIMES THE STATE TELL US WHAT WE SHOULD SEE AS FIT FOR OUR RESIDENTS, RIGHT.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE.

THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU INCLUDE YOUR RESIDENTS. THAT'S WHY -- I AM ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT THE -- THE LEGISLATURE HAD IN MIND WHEN THEY SAID YOU MUST HAVE ALL YOUR BUDGET HEARINGS AFTER 5:00.

I AM ASSUMING THAT IS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN.

AT ANY RATE, I THINK WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS -- YOU WANT TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER, DID YOU

-- WAS THAT A SUGGESTION? >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: JUST A SUGGESTION, MADAM MAYOR. I KNOW THAT THIS SEAT WAS VACANT UNTIL I GOT HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW -- I AM JUST -- WE KNOW THAT HE IS NOT CHANGING HIS MIND OVER THERE, BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING NINE MORE MEETINGS AND WHATEVER.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I CAN'T NOW.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: HE CAN'T NOW.

SO WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE THAT WILL BE SIT IN THAT SEAT, WE JUST DON'T KNOW. BUT IF, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW, WE CAN GET THIS NEW TIME OUT TO THE PUBLIC. AND THE PUBLIC MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, NO, YES. WE GO FROM THERE.

SO I SAY LET'S FLOAT THE IDEA OF A 5:05 OUT.

LET ME TRY TO GET MY COLLEAGUE TO THE LEFT OF ME TO COME ON BOARD AND WE GO FROM THERE. LET'S FLOAT IT OUT AND SEE WHAT

FEEDBACK AND GO FROM THERE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS COX, WE DO

THIS BY RESOLUTION. >> YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THREE PEOPLE WHO SAY 5:05.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: GET IT OUT THERE AND GET COMMENTS BACK.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT, SO GLAD I BROUGHT THAT UP.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: BE CAREFUL NOW.

E-MAIL IS GOING TO COME NOW. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU MIGHT HAVE

[f. Sponsorship/Donation Policy]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE SPONSORSHIP DONATION POLICY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I SPOKE OF THIS BRIEFLY AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH A POLICY OF SPONSOR{SUFFIX}SHIPS AND DONATIONS. IF YOU WERE TO PERUSE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACCOUNT OF THE BUDGET.

THERE ARE SPECIFIC EVENTS BUDGETED SUCH AS OUR FIREWORKS, SUCH AS OUR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, AND ALSO -- SIGHTS AND SOUNDS PARADE. THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AND BUDGETED. THROUGHOUT THE YEARS PEOPLE COME IN AND ASK CAN I HAVE THIS. WILL YOU GIVE ME THIS.

AND INSTEAD OF ME MAKING THE DECISION, I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALIZE THAT BY CREATING A CRITERIA AND CREATING FUNDING LIMITATIONS AND OF THAT CR CRITERIA, WE TALK OF THE EVENT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. HAVE A DIRECT BENEFIT TO THE FORT PIERCE COMMUNITY. A CURRENT 501-C-3 STATUS UNDER THE IRS CODE AND MUST DEMONSTRATE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DENY ANY REQUEST.

THE FUNDING LIMITATIONS WILL BE SET FORTH BY THE CITY COMMISSION. THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE, WE HAVE ALLOCATED $20,000 IN COMMUNITY PROJECTS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACCOUNT. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION ON THE APPLICATION FORM THAT IS ALSO PROVIDE IN THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION EIGHT WEEKS PRIOR TO THE EVENT. SO THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.

THE APPLICATION GOES TO YOUR ATTENTION THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE -- I KNOW, I DIDN'T TELL YOU, AND THEN -- AND THEN IT IS THEN FORWARDED TO OUR COMMUNITY WISE COUNCIL.

THE COMMUNITY WIDE COUNCIL WILL REVIEW, AND THE COUNCIL WILL COME TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION OF FUNDING FOR YOUR ULTIMATE DETERMINATION. THAT IS THE POLICY THAT IS BEING PRESENTED AT THIS TIME AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND

INPUT BEFORE THAT IS ENACTED. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, MR. MIMMS. HOW MANY DIFFERENT ITEMS DO WE

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NOW FUND? >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: I DON'T KNOW,

MANY. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I NEED THAT BACK-UP. WHEN YOU ARE CREATING POLICY.

SOMETIMES YOU CREATE SOMETHING LARGER THAN IT ALREADY IS.

EVEN THOUGH WE GET MANY REQUESTS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, WE DO. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. BUT THINGS WE SUPPORT IS THE ONE THAT'S COMMISSION HAS SUPPORTED IN AN EFFORT FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE CITY OR YOU WILL BE HEARING ABOUT IT YOU WOULD THINK IN A NEGATIVE WAY AND POSSIBLY IN A NEGATIVE WAY AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM AND WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS, AND I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR ME.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMMS, THE PAPERWORK HAS $10,000.

DO YOU UP IT TO 20. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SPONSORSHIP AND DONATIONS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE CAN KNOCK IT DOWN AT FIVE.

IT IS TOTALLY UP TO YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WON'T GOING TO SUGGEST -- WE GIVE SOME LINE-ITEM DONATIONS TO OUR PARTNERS MAIN STREETS WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF THE CHRISTMAS --

>> YES, THOSE ARE SPECIFIC EVENTS.

AND WE ALSO FUND THE MAIN STREETS THROUGH OUR CITY CDBG

PROGRAM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GIVE MONEY FOR

THE SIGHTS AND SOUND PARADE. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: SIGHTS AND

SOUNDS, FIREWORKS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CHRISTMAS

DECORATIONS ARE OURS, RIGHT? >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM.

AND JUNETEENTH IS PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CRA.

YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT TOMORROW.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ALREADY -- THOSE ARE KIND OF HISTORIC AND TRADITIONAL AND -- SO THIS IS ALWAYS -- THIS AREA OF ANY GOVERNMENT BUSINESS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME. BECAUSE WE WILL GET THE CITY TO BUY THE TABLE AND THE CITY ALMOST LIKE A CHARITY AND NOT A GOVERNMENT. AND I HAVE SOME FAVORITE NONPROFITS RIGHT THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO BUY A TABLE AND I THINK I ONLY REQUESTED THAT ONCE AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF REALLY GOOD QUALITY PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS AND FUNDR FUNDR FUNDRAISERS THAT ARE OFFERED BY A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS. I DON'T KNOW THIS AND I THINK ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS MORE 501-C-3S THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY PER CAPITAL AND I LOOK AT THEM AND PAGES AND PAGES OF THEM SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HANDLE IT BEFORE WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF CONTROVERSY. YOU MAY HAVE DONE A JOB.

I DON'T KNOW. THIS WHOLE AREA JUST BOTHERS ME.

YES, COMMISSIONERJ. JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU. AND ALSO WHAT I WANT TO ASK AND POINT OUT IN WHAT YOU JUST READ, WHEN I WAS ASKING MR. MIMMS WHAT IS IT THAT WE ALREADY FUND. YOU DESCRIBED A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND I WANT TO REITERATE.

WE JUST HAD A MEETING AT MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE AND WE TALKED ABOUT FIRE FIGHTERS SPECIFICALLY AND HERE IS WHAT WE WANT TO SAY.

FOR ME THE CITY SANCTIONED EVENT AND IS A REAL CONVERSATION IN OUR BOARD MEETING AND THAT IS OKAY.

THE CAMP MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE IS OKAY WITH THAT AND HOW IT MAY BE. I CONSIDER WITH THE RECREATION PROGRAM. IF WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE ARE FUNDING SOMETHING AND WE ARE PARTNERING WITH ANOTHER OUTSIDE AGENCY TO PUT ON OR SANCTION THAT EVENT, THAT IS WHERE I THINK I NEED THAT INFORMATION.

I THINK DONATING OR PAYING FOR THE FIREWORKS IS GREAT.

AND THAT'S NOT -- THAT IS NOT MAIN STREET'S EVENT.

IT IS -- MAIN STREET IS HANDLING AND ORGANIZING THE EVENT ON BEHALF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I THINK THAT IS WHERE I HAVE TO PUT THEM IN BOXES LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHERE FOLKS -- RANDOMLY THEY COME IN ALL THE TIME AND SAY LET'S GO ASK THE CITY AND THAT'S WHERE I START HAVING HEARTBURN TOO.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: HERE IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDERED.

YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN A CITY-SANCTIONED EVENT.

WHAT I HEARD MR. MIMMS TALK ABOUT THINGS IN THE CITY THAT BENEFIT THE LARGER COMMUNITY. I AM NOT TALKING OF SPONSORING A TABLE FOR A PARTICULAR EVENT, BUT WE -- THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS -- I RECEIVED LETTER THAT ARE TRYING TO PULL OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER THAT WILL DO SOMETHING IN A PARK PER SE.

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LET'S TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF BACK-TO-SCHOOL THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AS WE REALIZE, WHAT DOES THE CITY LOOK AT A CULTURAL THING LIKE THAT OF SENDING OUR KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL AND HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THAT IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING I ENVISION SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE I IFX, Y, Z AT DREAMLAND PARK AND DRAW THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, FUNDS ALONG WITH THIS PROPER FORM THAT WAS FILLED OUT, VETTED AND BE PARTNERED OF TO MAKE SURE THAT EVENT TOOK PLACE TO -- TO OFFSET THE COST OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO, SECURITY, TRASH.

ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR.

I GET THAT PART. THAT IS WHERE I LOOK AT AS I LOOK THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY OF DIFFERENT LARGER COMMUNITY FESTIVALS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OR ARE TRYING TO TAKE PLACE.

IN SOME CASES -- IN THE BIGGEST CASE OF ME, THEY ARE NOT CHARGING PEOPLE TO COME IN AND BE A PART OF THAT.

IT IS NO THE A MONEY-MAKING VENTURE.

IT'S JUST COME BE FESTIVE. EVERYBODY HAS TO BE WELCOMED.

A FREE EVENT. IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND I THINK ONE THAT NEEDS TO AT LEAST BE EXPLORED WITH A GREAT AMOUNT OF CAUTION TO LOOK AT IT SO IS IT MEETS A LARGER HURDLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO JUST LIKE WE GET TO THE POINT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH MAIN STREET DOING FIREWORKS, GREAT.

SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP COORDINATE BACK TO SCHOOL AND TO COORDINATE -- JUNETEENTH IS OFF THE TABLE NOW.

THAT IS ANOTHER CAVEAT, BUT FROM A COMMUNITY DIDN'T, JUST A COUPLE OF LARGER THINGS THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC.

MAYBE WE GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE WILL HELP THEM BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS DONE. AND I JUST LEARNED FROM LISTEN TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON OF MAIN STREET AND THEIR ASPECT OF IT.

AND TO THEM OUTSIDE OF THIS WALL, PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU ARE GIVING THIS TO MAIN STREET. WHY DON'T YOU GIVE IT TO BLANK, BLANK, BLANK. NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

>> EVERYTHING ORGANIZATION. YOU LOOK AT THAT.

A QUALITY PROGRAM AND YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEHANS CLINIC CAME TO US AND THEY FIRST OF ALL IDENTIFIED FUNDS AND NO THE A REOCCURRING BUT A ONE-TIME THING.

WE ARE NOT PUTTING THE HANS CLINIC AS A LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET. BUT THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS I KNOW RIGHT NOW ARE LIKE LET'S ASK THE CITY FOR MONEY.

AND SO THAT $20,000 COULD BE -- COULD DISAPPEAR THE FIRST OF

OCTOBER BECAUSE -- >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR. SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES SAY NO PERIOD. YOU IDENTIFY THE EVENTS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SPONSOR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND YOU JUST SAY NO TO EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT A POSSIBILITY AND

ELIMINATES ALL INCONSISTENCIES. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MADAM

MAYOR. >>MAYOR HUDSON:

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

IT IS RECURRING -- NOT A LINE ITEM BUT YOU KNOW SEPTEMBER AND THIS GROUP WILL BE IN AS THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST TEN, 15 YEARS AND WE REALLY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT WORD OUT THIS IS NOW A NEW PROCESS IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

WE NEED TO MANAGE THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE.

. ARE THERE COMBEPGSS, FIRST OF ALL? AND IF SO, HOW DO WE MANAGE THOSE EXCEPTIONS. IT DOWN AT COMMISSION LEVEL? IS IT DOWN AT CITY MANAGER LEVEL? THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE -- WHERE STATE REPRESENTATIVES HAVE WALKED IN AND ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE.

AND WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED THEM LIKE THAT.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WAIT EIGHT WEEKS.

SO REALLY, WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND IF WE ARE GOING TO HOLD THROUGH IT, COME UP WITH THE PROCESS AND I AGREE. IT GIVES ME THIS EERIE FEELING.

IT IS LIKE, WHY ARE WE CONTRIBUTING TO SOMETHING WHERE IT IS SET UP FOR CONTRIBUTION THAT'S COME FROM THE PUBLIC AND

THE PRIVATE SECTOR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: EVEN THE BACK TO SCHOOL. A LOT OF ORGANIZATION THAT'S DO BACK-TO-SCHOOL THINGS AND THEY MANAGE THEM EVERY YEAR AND WE GET INVITED. I DON'T THINK WE GET INVITED TO CONTRIBUTE. SO I WOULDN'T -- THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE DOING THAT ALREADY.

ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE -- THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE

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AND THEY ARE ALL DOING THAT. SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE CITY

OUGHT TO STAY IN ITS LANE. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: OKAY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, RIGHT.

IT IS NICE UNTIL I GET THE FIRST PHONE CALL.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I THINK WHAT MR. MIMMS IS SAYING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE.

MAYBE CONTINUE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. WE ARE A GROWING CITY, AND I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION, I GUESS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. BUT I AM --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS CLEAR OF MUD FOR YOU, MR. MIMMS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE US MORE INFORMATION?

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, THE INFORMATION I HAVE REQUESTED IS A LIST OF THE GROUPS THAT WE HAVE SPONSORED.

WHETHER IT BE EVENTS, GROUPS, WHATEVER.

WE WILL DIG UP THAT INFORMATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL INCLUDE BUT PEOPLE WE REGULARLY SEND MONEY TO LIKE THE ROUND TABLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO

INCLUDE THAT. >>.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: THAT IS LIKE A MEMBERSHIP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: AND WE DON'T GIVE THEM MONEY BECAUSE THEY EARN IT, BUT THE CHAMBER MANAGES OUR VISITOR CENTER.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: -- THEY PERFORM

A SERVICE FOR THAT. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, COUNCIL ON AGING AND UNITED FOR ANIMALS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THOSE LINE ITEMS -- FOR SERVICES.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I KNOW THE COMMUNITYWIDE COUNCIL THAT I SIT ON, COMMUNITY GRANT PROCESS. AM I CALLING IT THE RIGHT THING,

MR. MIMMS? >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: A PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY GRANT. SENT OUT A NOTE ON THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: EVEN IN THAT, MAYBE THAT IS A REEVALUATION OF THAT PROCESS BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE SAME ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING SOME OF THIS WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT. AND SO, MAYBE -- MAYBE IF I -- IF I AM LOOKING AT IT AND ABOUT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT COULD BE A MELDING OF THAT EVEN WITH THAT PROCESS.

BECAUSE THAT IS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE NOW FOR THE LAST -- I DON'T KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: BEEN SINCE I WAS A MAYOR.

A REGULAR EVENT FOR PEOPLE TO COME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK FOR MONEY FOR THIS AND THAT. WILL YOU SUPPORT OUR THIS.

AND THAT -- WHATEVER IT WAS WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT WEEKEND, RIGHT. WE DECIDED TO MAKE -- DEVELOP A PROCESS AND HAVE IT GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITYWIDE COUNCIL AND APPLY THROUGH THAT AND AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: WHICH IS WHAT I AM REHEARING AS A PROPOSAL AND RETWEAKING OF THAT.

I DON'T REMEMBER -- I ONLY REMEMBER LIKE ONE TIME A YEAR.

MAYBE IT IS A MORE FREQUENT -- THAT THAT COMMUNITY WILL MEET AND DEAL WITH AND DEAL WITH THE SAME AMOUNT, $500 PER QUARTER.

I DON'T KNOW. I AM SUGGESTING THAT PROCESS IS IN PLACE. AND ADDED CRITERIA THAT OTHER ORGANIZATION ALSO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE ADDITION OF SOME OF THE THINGS ON THERE MR. MIMMS OF THE VERIFICATION AN STEPS AND THAT COMMITTEE WILL MEET MORE FREQUENTLY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAIM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OBVIOUSLY TO US

AS A CITY COMMISSION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WAS TALKING OF

COMMUNITYWIDE COUNCIL. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

DO THE VETTING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT THAT DID FOR US WHEN WE SET UP THAT PROCESS, PEOPLE HAD TO LEARN THAT WE HAVE A BUDGET. THAT WE NEED TO LIVE BY THAT BUDGET. WE DON'T HAVE ENDLESS POWER TO CONTRIBUTE TO ENDLESS CAUSES WHICH ARE ALL GOOD.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT, YOU

KNOW, WHICH ONE. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: RIGHT. THAT'S IT.

>> WE WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE COMMUNITYWIDE COUNCIL AND NOT

ME. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE WILL CHECK

OUT THAT CONVERSATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY.

ARE WE DONE WITH THAT? >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS

COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY MATTER? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

>> CITY COMMISSION BOARD UPDATES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER AND GO FIRST? IF NOT, I WILL CALL ON COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER] SOME OF MY COMMITTEES DID NOT MEET IN JUNE. INTERESTING SUNRISE -- THROUGH THE SUNRISE PEOPLE. THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY.

WE HAD AN EMERGENCY MEETING. OTHER MEETING WAS CANCELLED AND THE OTHER MEETING AGAIN I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE WAS TO

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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT.

THAT IS JUST GOING TO BE THE UPCOMING MEETING AND OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. THINGS ARE HAPPENING AAPT THE SUNRISE THEATRE. THE CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS ARE TAKING UP A LOT OF THE SPACE RIGHT NOW.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT.

DURING OUR MEETING, YOU COULD HEAR THEM PRACTICING IN THE BACKGROUND. SOUNDS LIKE MY HOUSE 20 YEARS AGO WITH ALL THE KIDS RUNNING AROUND.

POSITIVE STUFF THERE. PARKING MEETING.

WE HAD WALKER DISCUSS THE DOWNTOWN PARKING SITUATIONS AND SOLUTIONS. AGAIN, PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THAT REPORT. BUT AGAIN DIVIDE THIS DOWNTOWN AREA INTO THREE ZONES. AND FUTURE PARKING SOLUTIONS.

A LIVELY DISCUSSION FOR PARKING GROUP.

RETIREMENT -- AND WE MET LAST MONTH -- I DON'T THINK WE MET LAST MONTH. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS SI SINCE COLAS ARE NOT SOMETHING WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE ACCORDING TO OUR RULE AND REGULATION BECAUSE OF OUR UNFUNDED BALANCE.

WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT POSSIBLY TAKING A GROUP OF OLDER RETIREES AND BEING ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN MAYBE TO OFFER A 13TH CHECK ON THAT FOR THOSE FOLKS. AGAIN -- AND I TALKED TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT THAT. BUT WHEN YOU ARE RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, AND FORT PIERCE UTILITIES 30 YEARS AGO, YOUR RETIREMENT AMOUNT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE WHAT IT MEANS TO YOU AS FAR AS A SALARY TO LIVE ON OR COMPENSATION TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH MAKING PAYMENTS AND BUYING FOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT GROUP. AND LOOKING TOWARD SOLUTION -- POSSIBLE SOLUTION -- GOING FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO GO THROUGH.

THERE IS SOME INFORMATION THAT HAS COME BACK FROM OUR ACTUAL AIRY TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT TO OUR RETIREMENT PLAN AND THAT WILL BE JOB ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMITMENT PROMISES TO THE EMPLOYEES ARE -- ARE KEPT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS MOVING

IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: CAN I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT, SOMETIMES THE RETIREE HAS BEEN RETIRED LONGER THAN THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE PLAN. THAT COMES UP IN THAT

CONVERSATION, RIGHT? >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: OH,

YEAH. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

I FIGURED SO. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE AVERAGE SALARY OF THE EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY 30 YEARS AGO COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS NOW.

SO I AM CAREFUL THE MULTIPLY IS ONE AND A HALF, TWO.

IT WASN'T THREE UNTIL I THINK EARLY IN 2,000 THEY CHANGED IT.

204. >> IT WAS 2004.

>> THAT ALL EMPLOYEES -- >> SO I WOULD SAY BEFORE THAT, IT WAS EVEN LOWER THAN THAT. IF YOU START TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT THE -- WHAT THE FUTURE -- FUTURE VALUE OF THE LONG-TERM VALUE OF THE PAYMENT AMOUNT, THE RETIREMENT AMOUNT 30 YEARS AGO.

I THINK IT IS REALLY A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THAT PERSON EARNED AT THAT PERIOD IN TIME.

SO COLAS ARE SET UP IN FEN RALE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF LIVING AS IT GOES FORWARD. SOME OF THE NEW REQUIREMENTS.

BUT, AGAIN, THE RETIREMENT BOARD TAKES A LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL OBLIGATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE OUR PROMISE TO EACH INDIVIDUAL RETIREMENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE THINGS GOING FORWARD. AND IT IS CHANGING ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, IT IS JUST AMAZING THAT WE GOT THIS THING GOING FORWARD.

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GOES FROM 92, 95 OR 97. RIGHT AT 90 AT LEAST IN FUNDING AND THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

AND IT DOES NOT GIVE US A LICENSE TO GO OUT AND START FINDING WAY TO SPEND SOME OF THIS MONEY FOR PAST RETIREES, JUST THAT WE FEEL THERE IS AN OBLIGATION FOR THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM TO BE A TRUE BENEFIT THAT IT NEEDS TO REACH OUT THERE AND HELP AND ASSIST THOSE LONG-TERM EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN RETIRED

FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY.

ARE YOU GOOD, COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

COMMISSIONER GAINES, DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I CAN. JUST GOT AN UPDATE ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD WHICH I ALSO SIT.

JUST MAKE A NOTE TO THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONER PERONA, I THINK THE UPCOMING MEETING, THE JULY MEETING, I WILL BE OUT OF THE STATE. I ALREADY LET MISSCOX KNOW.

I WILL MISS THAT MEETING. LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET.

WE MEET THIS WEEK, AND ALSO LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE WERE PRESENTED WITH THE SUMMARY OF THE -- OF THE DIRECTOR -- PRESENTED US WITH A SUMMARY OF THE SURVEY, SO WE ARE REVIEWING THAT NOW. DID NOT MEET ON THE COUNCIL OF AGING. WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING THIS MONTH. I ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT THE TASK FORCE FOR HOMELESSNESS. WE WRAPPED UP OUR DUTIES AND WE PRESENTED A FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE FORT PIERCE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE JUST HEARD ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD AND THE TREASURE COAST COUNCIL OF LEAGUE OF CITIES.

WE DIDN'T MEET -- WE HAVE A PICNIC ON THE 20TH WHEN I WILL BE IN D.C. .

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IN OKEECHOBEE. OKEECHOBEE GOING BACK TO LINCOLN PARK BEFORE I GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE.

LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET HAD AN OPENING OF THE MUSEUM.

A GREAT TURNOUT. IT WILL BE A GREAT MUSEUM.

MADAM MAYOR TALKED ABOUT IT AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TALKED OF THE PARKING. THERE WERE LITERALLY PARK TO VERO. THAT MANY.

A GREAT TURNOUT. AND IT GAVE ME THE FORESIGHT TO SAY WE REALLY NEED TO JUMP ON THAT PARKING ISSUE ASAP, BECAUSE WHEN THIS MUSEUM OPENS, THE PARKING WILL BE BE ISSUE OVER HERE AND WE MIGHT AS WELL JUMP ON THAT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: A WONDERFUL THING.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: AND WE MIGHT AS WELL JUMP ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT PARKING IS ADEQUATE AND WITH THEIR -- ESPECIALLY WHEN I SAW THE ENGINEER -- HIS REPORT TODAY WHERE PART OF THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE.

SOME TIME -- IT IS GOING TO BE BENEFIT CONSTRUCTION AND THIS IS GOING TO HELP US WITH SOME OF THAT PARKING.

AND WE KNOW THERE WILL BE PARKING.

AND MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSION, THOSE ARE MY REPORTS FOR THE

BOARD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE MUSEUM.

THEY -- THEY RECRUITED A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND TALKING ABOUT ONE FORT PIERCE, IT WAS A ONE FORT PIERCE EVENT. AND I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD BOARD. AND EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND IT SEEMS LIKE DORETHA IS

WORKING REALLY HARD. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: SHE IS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND I DON'T KNOW WE CAN DO IT BETTER THAN WE ARE DOING IT TO GET THE PEOPLE TO BUY THE LICENSE PLATES. THE DEADLINE IS THIS OCTOBER.

>> MADAM MAYOR, ME AND YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW WHILE WE ARE ON -- WHILE WE ARE AT THE MEETING. PLEASE GO OUT AND BUY THE LICENSE PLATES BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO FUND THE MUSEUM.

SO IF YOU BUY THE LICENSE PLATE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME LISTEN TO A MEETING LIKE US ASKING US TO PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE MUSEUM. IF YOU BUY THE LICENSE PLATE, YOU ARE HONORING THE HIGHWAYMEN WHO IS A BIG PART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND THE SALE OF THE LICENSE PLATES WILL FUND THE MUSEUM. SO LET'S GO OUT OUT AND GET THE

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>> A BEAUTIFUL ARTISTIC. ART ON THE CAR.

LICENSE PLATE BEAUTIFUL. GOOD COMMERCIAL.

COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOT TOO MUCH HAPPENING IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, BUT I WILL TALK ABOUT MAIN STREET BRIEFLY.

BETWEEN MAIN STREET AND THE DBA. I DIDN'T ANNOUNCE THESE BEFORE BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD. THREE NEW BUSINESSES OPENING UP IN DOWNTOWN. A MUSIC LOUNGE, A WINE BA BAR, GELATO -- KINDS OF REOPENING.

I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO IS DOING THAT AND ANOTHER COFFEE SHOP. SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: A FITNESS CENTER SOMEWHERE?

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE FITNESS CENTER -- THE PLAZA

ON U.S. 1? >>MAYOR: ON U.S. 1.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: HIGHWAY AVENUE PLAZA.

ONE OTHER THING ABOUT MAIN STREET.

PETITION TALKED ABOUT EVENTS THIS PAST MEETING AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT COMMITTEE AND EVENTS THAT MAIN STREET WORKS ON.

EVERY MONTH FOR FRIDAY FEST, GHOST WALK, REVERSE RAFFLE, GOLF TOURNAMENTS, SANDY FESTIVAL, COFFEE WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER, SIGHTS AND SOUNDS PARADE WITH SOME NEW IDEAS FOR THIS MONTH -- EXCUSE ME THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS THIS YEAR -- NOT THIS MONTH. AND I DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT TOO, TOO MUCH. CHRISTMAS IN JULY COMING UP THIS MONTH. AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT MAIN STREET OR DBA?

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MAIN STREET SPECIFICALLY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MY COMMITTEE UPDATES AT THIS TIME.

AND I WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

PLANNED MIMGS, I THINK THAT DORIS IS GOING TO SENDS THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FIREWORKS TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT -- I ASKED HER TO LAY OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT COST OVERIN ALL ADDITION TO JUST THE FOR EXAMPLE. THAT INCLUDES SECURITY AND DIFFERENT PORTOLETS, BATHROOMS, TRAFFIC CONTROL AND HOWEVER THAT WORKS OUT. SHE HAS THAT INFORMATION AND THAT IS COMING TO YOU. THAT'S ALL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: REAL BRIEF, MADAM MAYOR.

I DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY COMMITTEES.

MET FOR THE FIRE BOARD, ONE OF THE SHORTEST MUCH MEETINGS EVER.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IN A LONG TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: 10 MINUTES AND IT WAS OVER. TPO DIDN'T MEET AND REGIONAL PLANNING DIDN'T MEET AND FELL ON A HOLIDAY WITH JUNETEENTH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. MORE EXCITING MEETINGS HAPPENING

THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SO GAVE A REPORT ON THE SURVEY AND I READ THE SURVEY AND ITS CONCLUSIONS.

AND SO AT SOME POINT AFTER YOU GUYS -- I THOUGHT -- I THOUGHT SHE -- SHE JUST GAVE US THE INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THE CONCLUSIONS AND MAYBE BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS WE ALREADY KNOW LIKE JOB -- TRANSPORTATION TO JOBS IS THE BIG ISSUES AND TRAINING FOR JOBS IS ANOTHER BIG

ISSUE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM

MAYOR, WE MEET THURSDAY NIGHT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MAYBE WE CAN GET THE CLIFF NOTES BECAUSE I READ THE WHOLE THING.

THERE WAS A SUMMARY AND IT WAS IN THE BACK.

IT IS INTERESTING. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION GETS IT AFTER THE MEETING THURSDAY

NIGHT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT WAS INTERESTING AND I APPRECIATES THAT.

I WILL CONCENTRATE MAINLY ON THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF MATERIALS TO HELP OUR CUSTOMERS UNDERSTAND THE INCREAE IN THE PCA AND WHAT IS BEHIND IT AND HOW TO REDUCE YOUR USAGE. ALL OF THAT WE WILL BE GETTING OUT TO OUR CUSTOMERS. AND ALSO, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO HELP THEM WITH THE BUILDING WHERE YOU PAY THE SAME AMOUNT EVERY MONTH SO IT IS NOT A SURPRISE AND EVENED OUT OVER THE YEARS AND HELPS YOU MANAGE YOUR BILLS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND PROJECT AND ALSO UNDER STAND WHAT IS IN YOUR BILL AND WHAT IS IN YOUR HOME THAT IS INCREASING YOUR UTILITY COST.

AND WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH FINANCIALLY LIKE MUSTARD SEED AND ALPIE AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

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AND THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS FOR WHY NATURAL GAS NOW -- THE PRICE IS MORE THAN DOUBLED. AND WHEN -- SO THAT COMPARED TO WHEN WE MADE OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR AND NOW, IT'S ALMOST TRIPLED AND FLUCTUATES EVERY DAY AND WE WILL LEARN LATER THIS WEEK MAYBE SOME SHORT-TERM PROJECTIONS AND LONG-TERM PROJECTIONS BECAUSE PCA IS NOW THE HIGHEST SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD SINCE THE INCREASE IN NATURAL GAS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE GOTTEN YOUR UTILITY BILL FOR JUNE.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN A HOT JUNE. AND EVERYBODY'S BILLS WENT UP IN JUNE AND THAT IS BEFORE THE PCA EVEN WENT UP.

AND SO -- THIS IS NOT JUST HAPPENING TO FUSHGZPUA.

IT IS NOT HAPPENING JUST TO FLORIDA AND HAPPENING ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE HAVING HOTTER WEATHER AND MOST EVERYBODY IS USING NATURAL GAS UNLESS YOU ARE USING NUCLEAR WHICH IS THE CLEANEST ENERGY. NATURAL GAS IS A VERY CLEAN ENERGY AND NOW FOR A LOT OF REASONS VERY, VERY COSTLY.

SO THERE ARE MATERIALS AVAILABLE FROM THE FPUA TO HELP WEATHER THIS STORM AND I WILL HAVE TO SAY THAT I ALREADY MADE MYSELF GO ON THE BUDGET BILLING AND ALSO ON THE EASY PAY SO YOU CAN PROJECT IT, BECAUSE THE BILLS, THE WORSE TIME FOR NATURAL GAS PRICE TO GO UP IS IN THE SUMMER WHEN EVERYBODY USES AC, AND SO IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE UTILITY COMPANY OR ANY UTILITY COMPANY, THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AND I WANT OUR CUSTOMERS TO DO THAT AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO AMELIORATE THE PROBLEM AND HELP US THEM THROUGH THAT BAD TIME AND HELP US THROUGH THAT BAD

TIME. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I HEARD THE PRESENTATION ALREADY AND A BIG PUSH FOR FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE IN PROJECT CARE, THE ROUNDING UP BECAUSE THAT MONEY GOES -- THE MONEY GOES TO MUSTARD SEED THAT CAN HELP FOLKS THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR THEIR UTILITIES AND TRYING TO BOLSTER THAT BECAUSE ANNUALLY THEY COLLECT $3200 A YEAR AND THEY WANT TO BUILD THAT UP. THIS IS THE TIME TO NEED THOSE

RESOURCE TO HELP PEOPLE OUT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IT IS.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT.

AND THEY HAVEN'T EXACTLY PUSHED THAT LIGHTLY, BUT IS THERE A BIG PUSH FOR COMBINATION TO PROJECT CARE THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO HELP

PEOPLE WITH THEIR UTILITY BILLS. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, REAL QUICK. TO FOLLOW UP FOR YOUR REPORT, IF YOU CAN GET AND IF FPUA CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, I WAS BOMBARDED WITH CALLS AND MEALS AND KNOCKS ON THE DOOR AND EVERYTHING ABOUT OUR BILLS OVER

IN DISTRICT 4. >>MAYOR HUDSON: PSHGPCA HAVEN'T HIT YET. BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN

USAGE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I KNOW I AM SAYING THAT I SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR AND RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME WHERE WE NEED TO JUMP AHEAD OF THIS AND GET THE WORD OUT.

AS COMMISSIONERSON WOULD SAY SOMETIMES NOT EXPLAIN IT TERMS THAT WE KNOW BUT EXPLAIN IT IN TERMS THAT RESIDENTS WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN MY DISTRICT, EVERYBODY IS MAD AT US SITTING UP HERE AND THEY ARE MAD AT FPUA RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ALL THEY UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEY OPEN THEIR BILLS AND THEIR BILLS JUMP FROM 200 TO 500 FROM 300.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: BIG INCREASES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM BEING ASKED A THOUSAND QUESTIONS.

IF THE DIRECTOR IS LISTEN TO ME, NOW IS THE TIME TO GET ON THE RADIOS AND GET ON THE WAVES AND EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE THERE IS ANGER IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW WITH THE FIRST SET OF BILLS. I WANT EVERYBODY UP HERE TO KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW YOU GUYS DIDN'T GET THE E-MAILS BUT I GOT THE E-MAILS AND CALLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE BILLS AND THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS BEING SAID. AND THEY NEED A EXPLANATION AS TO KNOW WHY AND WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE THIS NEXT BILL COMES.

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>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: WHICH IS THE PCA.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE INCREASE IN -- EXACTLY.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THIS IS THEY THINK IT IS THE BILL THAT

WE VOTED ON. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I HAD TO LOOK AT MINE TOO. I WAS LIKE, WHAT? EXACTLY. THIS IS THE MONTH IT ALL STARTS -- EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE THINK IT HAS ALREADY STARTED.

YOU NEED TO REDUCE, YOU NEED TO DO ALL KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN TO NOT USE AS MUCH ENERGY AND NOT USE AS MUCH WATER AND WAYS THAT THE FPUA WILL HELP YOU AND MAKE SURE THEY GET THAT MESSAGE. GAINES GAINES THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MIMGZ MIMMS MADAM MAYOR, WE JUST HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET WORK SHOP. OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE PRESENTED THE BUDGET. A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF QUESTIONS DO YOU ALL WISH TO PROCEED WITH A SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP OR GO TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET HEARINGS AS REQUIRED BY

THE STATE OF FLORIDA? >>MAYOR: WELL, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY BIG CHALLENGES OR BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

ARE THERE BIG CHANGES? >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I THINK STAFF DID A GOOD JOB OF REACHING OUT TO EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY AND AN END MOST OF THE QUESTIONS PRIOR TO COMING TO THIS MEETING. AND IT IS -- I THINK WE -- WE HANDLED IT IN A VERY FORMATIVE WAY AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESSING QUESTIONS. THERE WAS NO BACK-UP INFORMATION REALLY THAT WAS REQUIRED FROM STAFF I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE A DECISION.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: GOT IT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IF THAT. IF EVERYBODY WILL LEAVE THE CHAMBERS. TURN OFF OUR THE LIGHTS.

WE NEED TO A

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