Jul 13, 2022 Planning Board

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> WE WILL OPEN THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING FOR JULY 13, CORRECT? AND IT IS 2022 STILL.

>> ARE YOU ASKING IS SITTING? >> I'M ASKING BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I HAD IT ALL RIGHT POINTED OUT AN ERROR.

SO, I'M TRYING TO DO THIS RIGHT.

ANYONE THAT HAS A CELL PHONE OR ANYTHING THAT RINGS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TURN THE RING TONE OFF.

AND WILL YOU STAND WITH US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR

ALL. >> THANK YOU.

WILL YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >> HERE.

>> PRESENT. >> PRESENT.

>> YES MA'AM. >> PRESENT.

>> PRESENT. >> EVERYBODY IS HERE.

BEFORE WE GO TO THE MINUTES, I JUST HEARD A LITTLE BIRD WHISPER IN MY EAR JUST A MOMENT AGO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A SPEAKER MS. BAKER HAD A BIRTHDAY.

I'M ACKNOWLEDGING MS. BAKER HAD A BROTHER.

>> YES, I WAS 88 ON SATURDAY. >> CONGRATULATIONS!

[APPLAUSE] >> NOW, THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO DIVULGE.

[LAUGHING] OKAY.

[a. Minutes from the June 13, 2022 meeting]

THE MINUTES. >> FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MR. BURGE,

SECONDED BY MS. CLEMENTS. >> YES.

>> YES MA'AM. >> YES.

[a. Future Land Use Map Amendment - Hillpointe Residential - 2102 and 2151 S. Jenkins Road]

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

THE HEARING AT LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY.

THIS BOARD OPERATES AS A LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY WHEN ¦

>> CAN I MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? >> OH, MR. BRODRICK IS GOING TO NEED TO LEAVE BY APPROXIMATELY WHAT TIME?> 3:15 P.M.

>> 3:15 P.M. HAS ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT PRESSING CONCERNING THAT IT CAN'T CHANGE. THOSE THINGS HAPPEN TO ALL OF US OCCASIONALLY. THIS BOARD OPERATES AS THE PLANNING AGENCY FOR FORT PIERCE IN ZONING CHANGES.

AND HELP ME OUT HERE. RYAN.

>> ALTIZER. >> YOU KNOW, I AM BAD WITH LAST

NAMES. >> REALLY?

>> AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN HERE MORE THAN A WEEK KNOWS THAT.

[LAUGHING] >> SO BEAR WITH ME.

>> WE NEED TO GIVE YOU A CHEAT SHEET OR SOMETHING.

>> YEAH, THESE BLANKS. >> SCRIBBLE IT DOWN AND HANDED TO YOU WHEN SUNDAY COMES UP TO THE ¦

>> I EVEN WROTE IT DOWN.

[LAUGHING] >> ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT ITEM A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR HILLPOINTE RESIDENTIAL AT 2102 AND 2151 S. JENKINS ROAD.

>> YES. IT IS 2101 NOT 2102 S. JENKINS.

>> 2101? >> 2101.

>> YES. AND WHAT GOES WITH THIS IS ALSO A REZONING, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS FOR 7 A, BOTH ON THE SAME PRESENTATION. I WILL PRESENT THEM TOGETHER.

WE CAN VOTE SEPARATELY. >> OKAY.

>> SO TO START OFF THIS IS HILLPOINTE RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND REZONING.

THEY ARE LOCATED AT 2101 AND 2151 S. JENKINS ROAD.

AND HERE IS A LOCATION MAP FOR YOU ALL.

17.52 ACRES BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS.

THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE FOR THESE TWO PARCELS IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE

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AND THE RIGHT CORNER THE RN IS MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL.

PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE WILL CHANGE THE TWO PARTIALS FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PARCELS THAT ARE TO THE EAST OF THE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE IN QUESTION. THE REQUEST IS FOR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT CHANGE THE TWO PARTIALS FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC TO GENERAL HI RESIDENTIAL RH.

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND HE DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. THE PLANNING BOARD ACTIONS TODAY ARE POSSIBLE AS THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT WITH NO CHANGES, WHICH IS A STAFF RECOGNITION. APPROVAL OF PROPOSED FUTURE NEPHEWS A MOMENT WHEN CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL WITH MAP AMENDMENT. GOING ON TO THE REZONING OF THE TWO PARCELS. THEY ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AS C3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THE PARCELS JUST TO THE WEST ARE ALSO C3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. TO THE EAST WE HAVE OUR FIVE, WHICH IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

TO THE NORTH IS C-1, WHICH IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

INTO THE SOUTH WE HAVE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND AR ONE, WHICH IS AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

AND JUST TO THE RIGHT CORNER, NOT THE PURPLE PD, BUT THE ARE FOR, THAT IS ENTIAL MODERATE DENSITY NING PROPOSED ZONING MAP CHANGE WOULD CHANGE TWO PARTIALS FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL C3 TO R 5, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING TO THE EAST. REQUEST FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT CHANGE FOR TWO PARCELS FROM C3, GENERAL OMMERCIAL TO R 5 RESIDENTIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IS CONSISTENT WAS RUNNING ZONING CONSISTENT WITH TO R 5 RESIDENTIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IS CONSISTENT WAS RUNNING ZONING CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125 Ã136 OF CODE. IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR CONVENIENCE OF THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE REZONING ARE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING WITH NO CHANGES, WHICH IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

APPROVAL OF PROPOSED REZONING WHEN CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL OF REZONING.ND THAT IS IT FOR HILLPOINTE RESIDENTIAL FUTURE

LAND MAP AND REZONING. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.

ALTIZER? >> I HAVE SOME.

>> I HAVE ÃI NOTICED THE AMOUNT OF PROPOSED UNITS IS IN THE PROPOSAL AND THE PRESENTATION.

AT WHAT POINT WILL THE ACTUAL PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BE AVAILABLE AND WHEN THEY COME FOR US?

>> YES, THEY WILL. I WILL ACTUALLY PUT ON THE SCREEN RIGHT OUT THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN FOR THESE TWO PARCELS. WHEN MORE, THERE WE GO.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOP PARCEL WOULD BE WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS PLACED AND THEN THE 2151 WOULD BE THAT PROPOSED

LAKE AT THE BOTTOM. >> MR. CHAIR.

>> YES. >> CAN I ASK THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER THESE AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, FIRST OF ALL, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OUTSIDE OF THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF FUTURE LAND USE AND CONTEXT AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE ZONING SUBSEQUENTLY TO THAT.

IF RYAN, GO BACK TO THE FUTURE. >> LET'S PULL BACK OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ONLY. I AGREE.

THINK THAT IS EXCELLENT. >> OKAY.

>> FIRST QUESTION FOR THE PLANNING WHAT IS THIS, IS THIS FUTURE LAND USE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION?

>> MR. CHAIR.> YES. >> IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS COMMERCIAL USE. IS THERE A REASON THAT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE THIS MODIFICATION RESIDENTIAL. BASICALLY ELIMINATING THIS

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ONE, THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION HAVE APPROVED THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON JENKINS ROAD.

OUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN INFRASTRUCTURE TRAFFIC, ETC.

THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD AS BEING AT LEAST DISCUSSED OR STUDIED BY THE COUNTY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR TWO YEARS NOW AND WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING COMING FORWARD TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.

WHY WOULD WE WANT TO MOVE, TAKE THIS PROPERTY OUT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SHIFTED TO RESIDENTIAL?

I GUESS THAT IS MY QUESTION. >> I THINK WITH THE STATE OF GROWTH IN FLORIDA RIGHT NOW, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND ESPECIALLY WITH APARTMENTS, I THINK, FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION IT GIVES MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I DO KNOW THAT HOMEOWNERSHIP RATES IN FORT PIERCE ARE NOT AS HIGH OF WHAT WE WANT THEM TO BE.

I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK MORE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITH LOWER COSTS FOR HOUSING IS IMPORTANT

FOR THE CITY OF FOUR. >> OKAY.

MY SECOND QUESTION JUST WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR.

[LAUGHING] >> I AM PLEASED TO SEE THAT HE IS HERE. I AM SURE HE IS HERE FOR SECOND PHASE OF THIS WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION.

MARTY, NICE TO SEE YOU. SO, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE THERE IS NO CONCERN IF THERE IS ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL SUPPLY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ETC.

PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS WHERE SHORT FALL CURRENTLY EXIST, PROJECT OF THE LOGIC?

>> YES, SIR. >> CAMPING WORLD IS QUIET.

EMPTY MOBILE HOMES AND TRAILERS.

>> I WOULD HOPE SO IT'S OKAY. YOU HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

I SEE THE LOGIC. I WANT TO CONFIRM THE SAME THING. BIGGER DEMAND, THIS PRODUCT, AMPLE DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL LAND, NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ETC. LET'S MAKE THE SHIFT ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT CORRIDOR IS SEEING SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN HOUSING.

VERY SIGNIFICANT. VENNIS COULD PROBABLY TELL US HOW MANY UNITS HAVE GROWN OUT THERE, PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF THEM. WE WILL GET TO THAT PORTION OF IT WHEN WE GET TO THE SECOND PHASES.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

>> QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE.

HERE ZONING MAP CHANGES, WE HEAR ZONING CHANGES AND I CONSTANTLY HEAR THIS TERM. IF I CAN FIND ND IT.

THE AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO, THE QUESTION I GOT IS THIS, WHAT IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS WE HAVE IN PROPERTIES ACROSS OUR CITY? AND IF ÃIF THIS CHANGES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHY WASN'T THIS ZONING PUT ONTO THIS PROPERTY PRIOR TO NOW? WHY WASN'T IT DONE WHEN WE ON OUR CONFERENCE A PLAN?

>> LET ME ÃLET ME. SO, THE TOP PRESENT PLAN SETS OUT A COURSE OF DEVELOPING FOR THE CITY.

NOT ONLY THE PRESENT SITUATION OF THE CITY, BUT IN FUTURE, THE EXPANSION OF THE CITY. AS WE ALL KNOW, WE ARE SEEING ANNEXATIONS INTO THE CITY. CONFERENCE A PLAN ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THAT. CONFERENCE A PLAN ALSO SUPPORTS NOT INTERFERING WITH THE MARKET DEMAND IN PROTECTING THAT DEMAND. AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS THE UPPORTS THE ÃVERY VARIANCE OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WE SUPPLIED FOR OUR CITIZENS AND TO MAINTAIN THAT SPECTRUM, IF YOU LIKE OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL ROPERTIES.

SO, THERE ARE A LOT OF POLICIES WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ONCE IT WAS FIRST DEVELOPED, A NUMBER OF ZONINGS, A NUMBER OF ACTUAL FUTURE LAND USES WERE ALLOCATED BASED ON THE PROJECTIONS OF THAT POINT FOR THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY, THE CITY LIMITS.

THE CITY LIMITS ARE CHANGING. THE POPULATION IS CHANGING.

THE DEMAND IS CHANGING. SO THAT THE DELIVERY OF CERTAIN PRODUCTS AND CERTAIN LAND USES NEED TO BE REASSESSED ON A

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YOU KNOW, WE FIGURE OUT IF WE ARE LOSING TOO MUCH COMMERCIAL OR IF WE ARE GAINING TOO MUCH RESIDENTIAL BASED ON WHAT THE MARKET IS LOOKING AT AND WHAT THE DEMAND FOR THE CITY AND THE SUPPLY OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE. IT IS NOT A STATIC ASSESSMENT.

IT'S NOT A STATIC ASSESSMENT. IT WILL MOVE BASED ON THE NUMBER PROPERTIES THAT ARE MOVED INTO THE CITY DIFFERENT MARKET CONDITIONS, DIFFERENT DEMANDS OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE IN SUPPLYING SERVICES AND ACCOMMODATING THAT GROWTH.

>> I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION IN THE PAST BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE RECENTLY ALMOST EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WE HAVE EITHER AN ALICE MAP CHANGE OR A REZONING CHANGE.

SO, IT'S BECOMING COMMON PRACTICE AND THE CITIZENS ARE BEGINNING TO RECOGNIZE. ARE WE NOT CONCERNED Ã HISTORICALLY, FORT PIERCE HAS HAD A CHECKERBOARD OF ZONING AROUND THE CITY. WE HAVE HAD A CHECKERBOARD OF CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS COME OUT OF THE GROUND TO WHERE YOU GOT A GASOLINE STATION HERE. YOU HAVE GOT A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR TO IT. ARE WE CONCERNED AT ALL WITH THAT BEGINNING TO HAPPEN PARTICULARLY ALONG JENKINS ROAD CORRIDOR? I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE OLD RESIDENTIAL AREAS ALONG CORRIDOR. JENKINS ROAD WAS NOTHING BUT A FARM ROAD THAT WENT TO ONE SIDE FORT PIERCE TO ANOTHER. THERE WAS A LOT OF FARMS ALONG IT. NOW, OVER TIME, THERE HAS BEEN SOME RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS BEEN BUILT.

BUT IN PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE HAVE SEEN DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND WANT TO BUILD. AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH ON JENKINS ROAD, I GUESS IT IS REALLY OKEECHOBEE WERE JOINS JENKINS ROAD. WE NOT ONLY HAVE A SCHOOL SITTING HERE. WE'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALL AROUND THE SCHOOL.

(NAME?) IS HERE, HE MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS ISSUE COMING UP. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC ALONG JENKINS ROAD. WE LKED ABOUT THE COUNTY WANTING TO WIDEN JENKINS ROAD PAST DIRECTORS HAVE INDICATED TO US THEY HAVE BEEN KEEPING THEIR FINGER ON THE PULSE WITH THE COUNTY AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH WIDENING JENKINS ROAD, CREATION OF TURNING LANES, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

YOU HAVE A HECKUVA JOB AHEAD OF YOU.

I'M GLAD, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO COMMENT TO YOU THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU I'M GLAD YOU HAVE BEEN HERE AT THE TIME FOR THREE WEEKS [LAUGHING]

>> FEET FIRMLY PLANTED ON THE GROUND AND A GRASP OF EVERYTHING. [LAUGHS] BUT ARE WE CONCERNED THAT WE ARE CARRYING THE SAME CHECKERBOARD THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN AND AROUND FORT PIERCE HISTORICALLY? ARE WE CARRYING THAT FORWARD Ã FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. WE HAVE GOT A COMMERCIAL FACILITY THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL IS NOW GOING TO WRAP AROUND.

>> FRANK, CAN I ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT TO THAT.

>> SURE. >> I WOULD TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP. THIS BOARD HAS APPROVED SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY OF 6 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE IN 95 TURNPIKE CORRIDOR JUST WEST OF JENKINS. IN YOUR DECISION-MAKING MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS TYPE OF CHANGE, THIS IS KIND OF EXPANDING ON FRANK'S QUESTION, ARE THOSE TYPES OF CONSIDERATIONS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL? HEY, WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THESE TENETS ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE TO GET EMPLOYEES? IN YOUR PROCESSES DO CONTEMPLATE THAT TO SAY, WE'VE GOT THIS MASSIVE EMPLOYMENT BASE.T'S COMING OUT OF THE GROUND RIGHT NOW AND WE NEED TO ASSIST THAT BY PROVIDING NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> IT'S ÃIT'S FINISHED THERE'S THREE ASPECTS TO THIS REALLY.

LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT IS AVAILABLE.

AND THAT IN ISOLATION WE HAVE A VOLUME OF COMMERCIAL USE THAT NEEDS EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE A HOUSING SUPPLY ISSUE TO NOT ONLY GET PEOPLE LIVING LOCALLY, AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE.

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IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES OF CAR USAGE, VEHICLE USAGE TO GET TO WORK AND HAVING THOSE USES AND THOSE CHECKERBOARD PATTERNS ISOLATED, THE METHODOLOGY HERE IS TO TRY TO LOCATE HOUSING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE AREAS THAT, HOPEFULLY, WORK, LIVE, AND RECREATE ACT.

AND BY DOING HAT HOPEFULLY CONSOLIDATING MOVEMENTS AND KEEPING THEM ISOLATED FROM THE MAIN NETWORK.

CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT. BUT THAT'S THE THEORY ABOUT IT TOO. HE WAS THE OF CONSOLIDATIONS, HOWEVER, ON VARIOUS USES ON VARIOUS MAJOR ROADWAYS.

AND THAT WILL BE DRIVEN BY MARKET DEMAND.

AND SO, A LOT OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, YOU'VE SEEN IN EXISTING PATENTS ARE BASED ON A DIFFERENT MARKET.

BASED ON DIFFERENT MARKET DEMANDS AND DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS CITY FACED.

WHEN MOVING, TRANSITIONING TO A DIFFERENT MOMENT, AS BRIAN POINTED OUT, THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND FOR HOUSING LOCALLY.

I THINK ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES AND CONFERENCE OF PLAN PRIORITY IS TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THIS SPECTRUM OF HOUSING TYPES AND UNITS AND LOCATIONS INTERMINGLED WITH THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES THAT WE SEE.

AND WE WILL BE SEEING A LOT OF THIS.

THIS WILL BE A COMMON DISCUSSION.

BUT HAVING ANALYZE THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WE SEE THAT THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, STARTING TO BE A, LIKE A NOTE OF RESIDENTIAL BEING CREATED HERE.

AND THAT ON THE PERIPHERY OF THAT MAYBE SOME COMMERCIAL ACTUALLY DEVELOPS FROM THAT. IT'S AN ATTRACTION, YOU KNOW, IS CHICKEN AND EGG. YOU CAN'T ATTRACT COMMERCIAL USE WITHOUT RESIDENCE. AND THEN YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY ATTRACTING RESIDENTS, WORKFORCE IF THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY A CONUNDRUM THAT WE TRY TO FIGURE

OUT. >> TRY TO CREATE BALANCE.

>> YEAH. >> MARTY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BRING TO THE TABLE REGARDING ALICE MAP AMENDMENT?

>> SURE.R. HERE, I APOLOGIZE BEING LATE.

I GOT HERE ON MONDAY.

[LAUGHING] >> JUST BEFORE 2:00.

I NEED TO READ A LITTLE CLOSER SOMETIMES.

>> I AM GLAD YOU HAVE BEEN HANGING AROUND.

[LAUGHING] >> 2:15, NOBODY WAS HERE, MARTY.

[LAUGHING] >> BOB WAS ACTUALLY HERE.

INFORMED ME IT MOVED TO WEDNESDAY.

HE KICKED ME OUT PRETTY QUICK. I HAD EMERGENCY OPERATION TRAINING CENTER EARLIER TODAY. THAT IS WHY I'M LATE.

I AM INTERESTED IN THIS, WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THE CITY WHEN IT CAME THROUGH SITE PLAN REVIEW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND COMMENTS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT A STATIC ACUMEN. IT'S GOT GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY WE ARE HAPPY WITH.

THAT DOESN'T MEANS THE MAP STAYS STATIC.

YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IMPACTS A REZONING OR FUTURE LAND USE HAS ON THE COMMUNITY AND IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN DEAL WITH? YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MY FRIEND DARWIN SUMMED IT UP BEST, NOT THE SMARTEST OR STRONGEST THAT SURVIVE, BUT THOSE THAT CAN ADAPT TO CHANGE.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S ADAPTING THE COMMUNITY TO THE CHANGE IN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS IT'S GOT TO CHANGE. IT CAN'T STAY THE SAME TO BE HEALTHY. THOSE HEALTHY THINGS OF THOSE CHANGES JUST LIKE HAVING THE COMMERCIAL AGAINST THE INTERSTATE IS A GOOD, YOU KNOW, COMPATIBLE LAND USE.

AND THAT A HIGHER DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY EDGES INTO THE COMMERCIAL IN ACTIVITY TO SCHOOLS.

WHERE KIDS HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL, HIGHER RESIDENTIAL.

WHICH IS A GREAT THING. WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S CLOSE TO SCHOOLS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ON SCHOOL CAPACITY. THE DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO EXTENDING SIDEWALKS DOWN JENKINS AS WE MOVE ALONG SO KIDS CAN GET TO SCHOOL SAFELY. YOU KNOW, AND YOU ARE AWARE

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WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PLANS ON GETTING JENKINS MOVING ORWARD BEFORE IT BECOMES A LOGJAM. AS LONG AS TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS IS OFFER IS OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE IS NEED IN FORT PIERCE SO PEOPLE HAVE OPTIONS. I THINK IT ALL FITS INTO THE PUZZLE WELL.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERN? >> NO, SIR.

>> COUNTY OR SCHOOL PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE IS NO RED LIGHT AT

THIS INTERSECTION? >> NO.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BOARD SITUATION WHETHER IT BE A TRIP GENERATION, NUMBER OF TRIPS, NUMBER OF CARS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION ULTIMATELY, THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE. PART OF PROCESS.CONTINUE TO EVALUATE . YET, I LEFT WHEN THEY SAY EVERY PRINCIPLE THINKS WE SHOULD HAVE A SCHOOLZONE IN FRONT OF EVERY SCHOOL , YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING REASONS WHY YOU PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE OR SCHOOL ZONE IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL. IT'S NOT A LABEL.

AND TRAFFIC ÃTHERE'S OTHER WAYS TO GET KIDS ACROSS THE STREET SAFELY. AND WHAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH COUNTY ENGINEERING AND THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT

HAPPENS. >> NOW WHEN I ÃI AM TAXING MY MEMORY HERE A LITTLE BIT. I WAS JUST DOWN TO THIS SITE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. 'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW IF CAMPER WORLD PUT THE SIDEWALK IN A LONG JENKINS ROAD THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT IN WHEN THEY BUILT CAMPER WORLD, OR WAS THAT ATTACHED TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY?

>> CAMPER WORLD, THEY DID A FEE IN LIEU.

AT THAT TIME WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS GOING TO BE ZERO PEDESTRIAN GENERATION FROM THAT SITE. PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, I SEE ZERO PEOPLE MAY DROP THEIR CAMPER OFF AND WALK UP TO, YOU KNOW, AT MCDONALD'S AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT WOULD BE CHICK-FIL-A IN THIS CASE.

BUT IN GENERAL THERE'S NOT A GREAT PEDESTRIAN GENERATION THERE. AND WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH THE APARTMENTS, THE COUNTY WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED AT THE TIME THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO BUILD A SIDEWALK AND THEN, YOU KNOW, COME BACK LATER AND REBUILD THE ROAD AND DECIDE WHAT GOES IN A LANDFILL. I JOKINGLY SAID, THESE KIDS WILL GRADUATE FROM SCHOOL BEFORE THAT SIDEWALK GOES TO THE LANDFILL AT THE PACE WE ARE BUILDING JENKINS ROAD.

IT'S A NECESSARY THING WHEN YOU START HAVING PEDESTRIAN GENERATION. SO I THINK THE RIGHT DECISION WAS MADE WITH CAMPING WORLD. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RIGHT DECISION THEY ARE LOOKING ON THE SIDEWALK UNDER THE SITE

PLAN. >> SIDEWALK RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT IS ON ROAD FROTAGE?

>> CORRECT. >> I HAVE A TECHNICAL QUESTION.

I KNOW YOU PRESENTED ABOUT THE REZONING, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY REVOTE ON THE REZONING UNTIL WE GO UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AM I

CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM.>> OKAY, ANYONE

ELSE? >> I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ÃON PAGE 2 OF THE REPORT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME IS IS NUMBER 10, IT SAYS THE REASON FOR MAKING THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL UNITS EXCEEDING 20 PERCENT OF THE GFA, WHAT IS A GFA?

>> GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON GROUND FLOOR AREA ÃGROSS FLOOR AREA.

GENERAL COMMERCIAL. YOU COULD HAVE ONE OF FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR THIS SITE, WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU ABOUT 750,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE. OF THAT YOU COULD HAVE 20 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL AT 15 UNITS PER ACRE.

THIS ALLOWS A PURE RESIDENTIAL AND 18 UNITS PER ACRE, I THINK,

MAXIMUM. >> YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING.

YOU'RE USING THE WORD RESIDENTIAL, WHICH CAN BE DEVELOPED INTO A NUMBER TYPES OF HOUSING.

SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING, THIS PARTICULAR CASE YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. >> TO GET THAT LEVEL OF

DENSITY, YES. >> AND THERE MAY BE SOME WHO SAY THERE IS TOO MUCH MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN FORT

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THEY'RE GOING TO PUT MULTIFAMILY ALONG PETERSON

ROAD, I BELIEVE. >> YEAH.

>> YOU KNOW, IT WAS BEING TOSSED AROUND THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE WITH THE HOUSING RATES? THE RENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA, HOW DO WE EVEN KNOW THAT THIS COULD BE LABELED AS LUXURY HOUSING.

LUXURY HOUSING AND NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ARE THERE SUBSIDIES OR ANTICIPATED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE ABLE TO USE IN THESE APARTMENTS? LIKE SECTION 8 CERTIFICATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING AREA.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT IS THROWN AROUND THAT THIS COULD BE A GREAT, LOW INCOME HOUSING AREA.

OR GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY ASPECT OF HAVING PLACES FOR PEOPLE LIVE, THAT MAY BE TRUE. BUT IT COULD ALSO BE A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT SOME IN MANY OF OUR R NUMBER 5 UNITS WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF BECAUSE OF CRIME AND SUCH LIKE THAT, THERE ARE ATTRACTORS MORE SO THAN DETOURS BECAUSE OF DENSITY BEING INVOLVED.

I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT SAYING ABOUT HOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING THIS IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS GOING TO BE. WE DO KNOW THE DEVELOPERS GOING TO PLACE AS FAR AS FRESH. OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR RENT AND LIKE THAT. OF COURSE, RENTAL PROPERTIES MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HOMEOWNER PROPERTY, TOO PRE-EXISTING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HOMEOWNER AND A RENTER.

WHEN THE QUALITY OF THE PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED AND LIKE

THAT. >> I THINK WE ARE GETTING AWAY

FROM IT ¦ >> I ANTICIPATED THAT.

[LAUGHING] AT THE POINT, TO ME, FROM THIS PAGE POTENTIAL 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OF A MAXIMUM OF 18 UNITS PER ACRE. AND THEN THERE'S PROBABLY DENSITY BONUSES THAT COULD HAPPEN DEPENDING IF THEY PLACE AND HANDS LANDSCAPING AND SUCH LIKE THAT ALSO.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS IN ALLOWING MORE HIGH R NUMBER 5 IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

LOW AND MEDIUM DENSITY. SO THERE ARE ERS.

>> TO ME WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE. EXISTING LAND USE ON THE PROPERTY AT THE MOMENT IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THAT ALLOWS MORE THAN 750,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USE.

PLUS RESIDENTIAL UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON 20 PERCENT OF THE FLOOR SPACE. YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GET, AND I THINK LOOK AT THE 20 PERCENT IS AROUND 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. SHE LEFT WITH 150,000 SQUARE FEET YOU CAN USE FOR RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IN THAT DENSITY DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE UNITS COULD BE BETWEEN 75 AND 150 UNITS, PLUS COMMERCIAL GOING ON FUTURE LAND USE. THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO RIGHT NOW. THE CHANGE OF USE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE ACTUALLY RESTRICTS THAT.

IT PULLS BACK THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT THEY CAN PUT ON THAT SITE. WHEN WITHDRAWING THAT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL YOU'RE ALSO WITHDRAWING THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS. THEN YOU ARE ALLOWING, YES, I HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 18 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND I THINK IT EQUATES TO, YOU KNOW, 300.

>> 306 OR SO. >> THERE IS A DIFFERENTIAL, I THINK, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE IMPACTS YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IN THAT AREA, WHICH ARE LESS BECAUSE YOU ARE REMOVING THE OPTION TO PUT IN 750,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA.

>> PLUS THE RESIDENTIAL.>> PLUS THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHATEVER DRYER ACTION YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT. THERE ARE ISSUES JUST WITH REMAINING COMMERCIAL AND THERE ARE ISSUES GOING TO RESIDENTIAL. PROS AND CONS.

>> SOUNDS LIKE A LOT RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM

[00:35:01]

>> I WOULD NOT SAY TOTAL DENSITY, BUT DENSITY USE ON

THAT PROPERTY. >> EQUALLY BACK TO TRAFFIC FLOW ON 2-LANE, MUCH BETTER THAN A 2-LANE FARM ROAD.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MARTY, YOU HAD MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED 2026 SOMEHOW PLAN ON CONDUCTING ASSESSMENT IN 22 A PLAN ON CONDUCTING ASSESSMENT IN 22 A 6 OR ASSESSMENT IS COMPLETED IN EXPANSIVE JENKINS IN 2026?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S FUNDED IN 2026.

>> FOR THE DESIGN. PRELIMINARY DESIGN IN

ENGINEERING. >> GOT IT.

THANKS, MARTY. THAT'S JENKINS ROAD CORRIDOR FROM ORANGE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MIDWAY.

>> THANK YOU. HELPFUL TO KNOW.

WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THAT PREVIOUS.

>> OKAY, ANY OF THE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOT SEEING ANY, I WILL OPEN PUBLICPORTION OF THE MEETING .

S THE APPLICANT HERE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. FOR THE RECORD I AM (NAME?) WITH ENGINEERING SIDING AND CONSTRUCTION REPRESENT APPLICANT. MY APPLICANT MR. EBERLY IS HERE WITH ME. HE CAN HELP OUT WITH QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS THAT STAFF MAY HAVE.

>> DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> IN YOUR FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT YOU DID, DOES YOUR FEASIBILITY STUDY INDICATE THE LEVEL OF INTEREST IN HAVING GOVERNMENT FUNDING ASSISTANCE TO THE TENANTS OF THE PROPERTY? I ASSUME THESE ARE ALL GOING TO PBE RENTAL UNITS AND NOT FOR SALE CONDOS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO DOES YOUR FEASIBILITY STUDY COUNT IN THE KIND OF FEDERAL ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE?

>> THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND TRAFFIC IMPORT PROVIDED?

>> ON THE COMMERCAL LIABILITY OF THE PROJECT.

>> THAT CONCURS YOUR REPORT. >> YEAH.

>> I BELIEVE THAT MY CONCURRENCY REPORT STATED THAT ALL OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE A REDUCTION, BUT IT DID NOT MENTION A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR

PUBLIC FUNDING. >> I GUESS WE MISUNDERSTAND.

THE UNITS THEMSELVES. >> YES.

>> WILL YOU BE APPLYING FOR THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE FEDERAL ASSISTED RENTAL HOUSING FUNDING?

>> OH, WE ARE PLANNING TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE THIS A LITTLE.HEN WE PLAN TO COMMIT TO THE POOR, I THINKTHE ANSWER CAN BE QUESTION MORE ACCURATELY.

>> THAT MAY BE A LITTLE PREMATURE.

I THINK THE APPLICANT HIMSELF WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.

DO YOU HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET THERE? PLEASE, SIGN IN IF EACH OF YOU WOULD.

>> (NAME?) LLC, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CURRENT PLANS TO USE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES FOR THIS PROPERTY.

IT WILL NOT BE SUBDIVIDED, YOU ARE CORRECT.

IT WILL NOT BE CONDOS. WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON PLOTTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WILL BE A RENTAL COMMUNITY.

WE ARE, AGAIN, NOT ANTICIPATING APPLYING FOR GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES. ALTHOUGH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PARTICULAR STEP WOULD TIE ANY OF THOSE ASPECTS TO LAND-USE

CHANGE ITSELF. >> THANK YOU.

>> EXCUSE ME. SO, YOU ARE SAYING LOOKING AT

THIS TO BE MARKET RATE HOUSING? >> CORRECT.

>> NOT LOW INCOME. >> I DO WANT TO MAKE A NOTE I DID NOT SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, READING MORE AFFORDABLE.> OBTAINABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH

SUBSIDIES. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD ANSWER. EXCELLENT ANSWERS.

BOTH OF YOU. WHEN I HEAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE FIRST QUESTION I GENERALLY ASK IS, WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING? CAN YOU GIVE ME A DEFINITION OF THAT?UITE FRANKLY NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.

IT'S ALL ATTACHED TO THE MARKET VALUE.

[00:40:03]

>> MR. CHAIR. >> YES.

>> WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSINGOPTIONS .

THE STATE HAS AN INTERESTING PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORP.. FINANCIAL HOUSING, THRESHOLDS BASED ON THE WAGES IN THE COMMITTEE.

MANY OF THOSE THRESHOLDS WERE 80 PERCENT F AMI AVERAGE MEDIUM INCOME FOR THE COMMUNITY. FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY REMEMBER BLUE GUY, CAME THROUGH HERE. TAX CREDIT FINANCING.

AS A RESULT, THE THAT FOR SINGLE WAGE EARNERS 44,006 Ã ANYWAY AROUND $45,000.80 PERCENT OF AMI FOR THE COMMUNITY. BASICALLY THEY LOOK AT SLICING UP 30 PERCENT OF YOUR WAGES GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR HOUSING.

SO THAT'S ÃI WILL SHARE WITH THE PLANNING DIRECTOR THE INFORMATION FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE AND THE SHIP PROGRAM. IT HAS THAT INFORMATION.

IT'S VERY INTERESTING. YOU THINK AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THOSE ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT HE $5000 A YEAR FOR A SINGLE ÃSINGLE PERSON. SO THAT'S, AGAIN, SO THEY ARE ONLY PAYING ABOUT 30 PERCENT OF THEIR WAGES FOR HOUSING.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET THERE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION

TODAY. >> NO KIDDING.

>> THERE IS TAX CREDITS THAT BUY DOWN THAT RATE FOR THE

DEVELOPER. >> OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS FROM THE PUBLIC? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. COME BACK TO THE BOARD, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE PRESENTER? NOT HEARING ANY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON

THE MAP AMENDMENT. >> I MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE EMOTIONAL OF APPROVAL BY MS. BAKER, SECOND BY MS. CLEMENTS.

CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 7A IN THIS CASE.

ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE REZONING.> NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT, SIR. I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON UNDER A HEARING OF LOCAL PLANNING

AGENCY NOT UNDER NEW BUSINESS. >> I AM GETTING A NOD FROM OUR CLERK. WE WILL NOT TAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.

>> FINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE MAY HAVE DONE THAT INCORRECTLY A COUPLE OF TIMES

ON THIS BOARD. >> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> NO, I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT.

[LAUGHING] >> WELL, GOOD.

[b. City Initiated Future Land Use Map Amendment - St. Peters Church - 2900 S. Jenkins Road]

[LAUGHS] ALL RIGHT, ITEM B, 6B, YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT THAT AS

WELL? >> YES, SIR.

>> ITEM 6B IS THE CITY INITIATED FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR ST. PETERS CHURCH 2900 S. JENKINS ROAD.

AND I WAS IN ATTENDANCE OF THAT COMMISSION MEETING.

THE CITY INITIATED THIS. SO, AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT THERE WAS NO CHARGE TO THE CHURCH THROUGH THIS

APPLICATION, IS THAT CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE RESIDENTIAL, REZONING WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.

TO GET STARTED. IN FEBRUARY 2021, A VARIANCE WAS DENIED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

AND ST. PETER'S LUTHERAN CHURCH PETITION TO THE CITY TO APPEAL THE DECISION IN A. THE MAYOR, THE COMMISSIONER AGREED THE STAFF SHOULD AND INITIATE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

A YEAR LATER, HERE WE ARE. SO, THE ST. PETER'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND REZONING, 29,000 S. JENKINS ROAD.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY 11.51 ACRES.

THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

TO THE WEST WE HAVE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

TO THE NORTH THERE IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND MEDIUM

[00:45:03]

BUT WITH THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE SIZE FOR THE SIGN.

THEIR QUESTIONS FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE ONE PARCEL FROM RM, RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY, TO GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. STAFF OF APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST FUTURE LAND USE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF CLAIM DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

>> QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER FROM THE BOARD?

>> ICB RECOLLECT THIS CASE. VARIANCE REGARDING SIGNAGE.

>> THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN. >> I REMEMBER THIS.

OKAY. YOU'VE ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.

[LAUGHING] YOU WON'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME. I AM GOOD.

>> I THINK HAD GONE THROUGH THE ZONING THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

>> BOARD OF A JUST A. >> IT HAD BEEN DENIED OF THE SIGN BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT IT MAY BE THE LENGTH OF THE SIGN.

AND WHEN I WENT TO THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION

OVERRULED THAT. >> YES, SIR.

>> THE PROVISION THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD COME BACK THROUGH FOR THE MAP AMENDMENT AND ZONING, POSSIBLY ZONING, TOO.

>> YES, SIR. >> PLEASE OF ISSUES.

>> MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING MEASURE TO GET THE CHURCH IN THE PROPER ZONING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THIS SIGN OF THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED.

>> EXACTLY. >> OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NOT HEARING ANY. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, ANYONE HERE TO. > NICHELLE CLEMONS: THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE.

I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER COMMENTS.

NOT HEARING ANY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION BY (NAME?) AND A

SECOND BY MS. CLEMENTS. >> YES.

[a. Rezoning - Hillpointe Residential - 2102 and 2151 S. Jenkins Road]

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES, MAN.

>> YES, >> OKAY, MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS, ITEM 7A.

I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY PRESENTED THIS ITEM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER CONSIDERING REZONING OF HILLPOINTE RESIDNETIAL AT 2101 ¦

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION. >> AND AT 2151.

>> I THINK THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THERE SITE PLAN REVIEW, IN INDEPENDENT OF THIS SO WE WILL ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THAT. THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS IN LIGHT OF THE FACT ISLAND OF RESIDENTIAL BEING CREATED IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT MY SUGGESTION IS GOING TO BE THAT THE BUFFERING BE LOOKED AT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A NOISY CORRIDOR AND A BUSY AREA. JUST A SUGGESTION TO YOU S I AM GOING TO BE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE BUFFERING WHEN IT COMES BACK. SO.

>> VERY COMMENTS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY I WILL OPEN PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO EAK TO THIS? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

>> JUST ONE QUESTION, MARTY, YOU WILL OBVIOUSLY BE INVOLVED IN THE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND THAT JUNCTURE AS WELL?

>> YES, SIR. I WILL.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE APPROVAL FROM MS. BAKER.SECOND FROM MISS

CLEMENS CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE. >> YES,

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

[b. City Initiated Rezoning - St. Peters Church - 2900 S. Jenkins Road]

>> YES, MA'AM. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> ITEM B REZONING ST. PETERS CHURCH 2900 S. JENKINS ROAD.

>> WE ARE READY DONE THAT. >> AGAIN, THIS IS REZONING FOR THE ST. PETERS CHURCH AT 2900 S. JENKINS.

THERE IS THE MAP LOCATION JUST IN CASE YOU NEED THAT AGAIN.

SO, CURRENTLY THE ZONING FOR THE PARCEL IS R-2, WHICH IS

[00:50:03]

TO THE WEST IS C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

TO THE NORTH GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND PD.

ALSO E3 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

BUT THREE UNITS PER ACRE. TO THE SOUTH IS PD AND R2 ZONING AS WELL. WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING, IT WOULD THEN BE PROPOSED FOR 2313-800-0002-000-7 & 2313-800-0004-000-1, GENERAL, CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING JUST TO THE WEST.O. ZONING MAP CHANGE TO C-3 COMMERCIAL, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR REQUEST CONSISTENT ZONING, (WORD?) CITY CODE CONFERENCE IN PER DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD TODAY IS APPROVAL OF REZONING OF CHANGES, WHICH IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

APPROVAL OF REZONING WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL OF

PROPOSED REZONING. >> ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL OPEN PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR A MOTION.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH NO CHANGES.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTIONTHIS TIME BY MISS CLEMENS. SECONDED BY MS. BAKER.

CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE. >> YES .

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> YES.

>> YES.>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 7C,

[c. Conditional Use - Lindsay School of the Arts -- 515 Avenue A]

ARE STILL PRESENTING. >> HERE I AM.

[GIGGLE] THE LINDSAY SCHOOL OF THE ARTS AT 515 AVENUE LOCATION IS JUST WEST OF WHERE WE ARE LOCATED RIGHT NOW.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE, 1.05 ACRES TO BE EXACT.

ZONING FUTURE LAND USE ABOUT THE SAME WITH GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE ZONING IS C-3 AND FUTURE LAND USE IS GC. BLACKENED AREA IS THE BUILDING AND THE LIGHTER AREA IS THE PARKING LOT.

ON-SITE PARKING LOT SURVEY DONE.

28 SPACES, THREE OF THEM BEING ADA HANDICAP.

PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HE SCHOOL.

THIS IS IN-DEPTH LOOK AT THE THE INSIDE.

I WAS TOLD D TODAY THE HE ACTUAL THE THE RECONFIGURED THE THREE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED.

BUT THE BUILDING IS INSIDE OF EXISTING 23,002 CRY 3000+.

8:30 A.M.-8:30 P.M. STAFF MEMBERS, CAPACITY 25-30 STUDENTS RANGING FROM SIX TO ELEVENTH-GRADE.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS A PROPOSED USE OFFER A PROVISION OF ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL REPRESENTING LITTLE COMMERCIAL USE COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH APPROPRIATE LAND DESCRIPTIONS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD TODAY'S APPROVAL IS CONDITIONAL USE NO CHANGES.

APPROVAL OF WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE.

THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY HISTORY ON

LINDSAY SCHOOL OF ARTS? >> I DO NOT, I HAVE WITH FORT PIERCE SCHOOL THE ARTS [LAUGHING]

>>. >> QUESTIONS.

>> ARE THEY ARE GOING TO BE SIGNS?

>> GOOD QUESTIONS, I WILL COMMIT YOU WITH ANSWERS.

>> THE ZONING IS THE SAME AS WE HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH THE

OTHER CHURCH. >> OH, THEIR SIGN WAS PLACED OVER THE CONDITIONAL USE, BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A

REZONING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIG .

>> GOTCHA. >> THAT WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE UNDER THEIR EXISTING ZONING, ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE

SAME REZONING? >> GO TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION

ACTUALLY. >> I THINK THEY WILL NEED TO KEEP IN THE PARAMETERS OF THE EXISTING ZONING OR SIGNAGE

[00:55:03]

A NEW DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT TRIGGERED THE CONDITIONAL USE LIMITATIONS HERE? IT WAS A SCHOOL YEAR BEFORE,

RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

ACTUALLY DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY TODAY.

IT WAS A PRESCHOOL BEFORE. >> OKAY.

THAT RAISES INTERESTING ÃI KNOW THE BUILDING VERY WELL.

YEAH. IT WAS A SCHOOL BEFORE, BUT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, I WANT TO FLIP BACK TO THAT FOR A SECOND.

YOU MENTIONED PARKING REQUIREMENT MEETS THE NEED OF THE SCHOOL, THIS IS IN THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT.

>> YES. >> THAT PARKING REQUIREMENT WAS REDUCED 50 PERCENT WHEN PEACOCK INITIATED.

DOES IT MEET THE NEED OF THE SCHOOL? OR MEET THE NEED OF REVISE PARKING REQUIREMENT?

>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE SCHOOLS.

TWO SPOTS PER CLASSROOM. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> ACTUALLY AT ONE SPOT PER

CLASSROOM? >> NO, IT HASN'T CHANGED.

HE IS SAYING HASN'T CHANGED FOR GROSS AGGREGATOR PARKING THERE VERSUS THE PAD, WHICH IS ILLUMINATED BY 50 PERCENT.

BUT THIS IS PRE-PEACOCK DISTRICT APPROVAL, EXISTING PARK IS STILL IN PLACE. RIGHT, IS THAT A FAIR

ASSESSMENT? >> YES.

>> OKAY. ANY OF THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING AND, I WILL OPEN PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. IF THE APPLICANT HERE? WELL, STEP FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

IF YOU WANT, STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND SIGN IN PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS CINDY BRIDGES PER MY ADDRESS IS 1717 ORANGE AVENUE SUITE 4425, FORT PIERCE 34948.> NOW, LINDSAY SCHOOL OF ARTS HAVE BEEN HERE AT FORT PIERCE FOR A WHILE?

>> YES. >> OKAY, I'M NOT DREAMING THIS.

[LAUGHING] >> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

YOUR SCHOOL. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION, IF I WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

I DID NOT FIND THE VERY END IT WAS ALREADY EDUCATIONAL.

WE STARTED AS A 501(C)(3), OFFERED FREE ARTS EDUCATION SINCE 2017 AND COMPLETELY NO COSTS TO FAMILIES.

FINISH SCHOOL YEAR, SERVE 400 KIDS A WEEK ARTS, DRAMA, CREATIVE WRITING, PRODUCTION. DURING COVID WE BECAME ESSENTIAL AS SCHOOLS SHUT DOWN WE STAYED OPEN AS EMERGENCY CHILDCARE SITE IN 2020 MARCH. THAT SUMMER, WE ROLLED INTO OUR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMMING. A LOT OF PARENTS APPROACH IS TO BECOME A VIRTUAL SITE. NO ONE KNEW WHERE WE'D BE FOR COVID. MY RESPONSE TO MY FAMILIES WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT I DID ANYWAYS.

WE GOT REALLY GOOD AT. KIND OF OUR LONG-TERM GOAL.

WE WANTED TO TAKE OUR TIME. COVID EXPEDITED THAT.

WE GOT SOME EMERGENCY DOLLARS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO CONTINUE VIRTUAL HELP. IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THIS, WE NEED TO DO IT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEM SINCE LAST YEAR.

THE CITY WAS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS NOW. WE HAVE BEEN REGISTERED AS A PRIVATE SCHOOL SINCE LAST YEAR. NOW START GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THE ACTUAL FUNDING.

ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL-LIFE MONEY FOR ONCE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD MUCH OF THAT.

SO, HERE I AM. >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT

QUESTION, HOW ARE YOU FUNDED? >> FUNDED BY STATE CHILDREN COUNSEL, ST. LUCIE, COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY. A LOT OF DIFFERENT FAMILIES.

WE GREW VERY FAST. A LOT FASTER THAN I WANTED TO.

I AM REALLY STILL, LIKE, HERE WE GO WITH ACADEMICS.

BUT I HAVE A GOOD LINEUP AND A DIFFERENT STAFFING FOR THEM.

AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL.

A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COLLEGE.

HOPING TO HAVE THOSE PATHWAYS TO ENROLLMENT, BUT DEFINITELY SECONDARY. WE DON'T WANT TO DO ELEMENTARY EDUCATION.> WHAT IS THE CHURCH DOING FOR YOU?

>> 1/3 ATTEMPT AT CONDITIONAL USE.

THE FIRST LOCATION ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS LOCATION

[01:00:01]

AND THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF EMPTY CLASSROOMS. SO, IT'S TEMPORARY. HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE IN ONE ROOM SOON. BUT THIS IS WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO START THIS PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE IRA BUILDING OFF OF JENKINS ROAD. RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO WHEREYOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT. >> OKAY .

>> THE OLD INDIAN RIVER, IRA BUILDING, INDIAN RIVER STATE ACADEMY. ALSO JENKINS NEXT TO THE CAMPING WORLD. TRYING TO ENTERTAIN STAYING IN THAT BUILDING LONG-TERM.> OKAY.

VERY GOOD. YOU JUST HAD FREE PRESS.>>

THANK YOU. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> I THINK, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAD GO TO CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS.I WASN'T AWARE THAT

WAS A SCHOOL. >> THANK YOU.> PROCESSES

THAT NEED TO BE GONE THROUGH. >> THE BIGGEST HURDLE IS FIRE INSPECTION WHICH WAS DONE TODAY WITH NO ISSUES.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE LAST THING THE STATE WAS WAITING FOR ME FOR. BUT I WAS JUST PRESSING ON THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A DEADLINE OF THE FIRST I HAVE A DEADLINE OF THE 1ST AND BY NOW GET THIS ALL DONE FOR THE STATE BY THE FIRST MY KIDS WILL ACTUALLY LOSE THEIR SCHOLARSHIPS.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE LAST SUMMER.

>> 1 AUGUST? >> YES.

WE ARE DONE AS OF TODAY. >> CONGRATULATIONS

[LAUGHING] >> ARE THE ACTUALLY DOCUMENT TO

HAVE TO GO TO CITY COMMISSION? >> FOR THE FIRE INSPECTION.

>> FOR THE STATE, I'M SORRY. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.>>

ONCE YOU ARE OUT OF HERE, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.>> WELL, THAT'S UP TO YOU.

[LAUGHING] >> I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT SPACE IS VACANT. I USE THE BUILDING ACROSS THE

STREET, GYM BUILDING. >> NICE TO MEET YOU.

>> THE CHURCH PRESENTS AND ALL THAT.

>> WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE GREEN BUILDING.

>> THIS IS A GREAT THING. >> IT IS.

GOOD LOCATION. A GOOD LOCATION.

EXACTLY WHAT THIS PART OF THE CITY'S IMAGE WAS FOR THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. YOU FIT RIGHT IN.

>> WE DO OUR BEST. >> IF YOU LIKE THAT TO BE A PERMANENT LOCATION, BUT YOU ARE IN A GOOD SPOT.

>> I THINK WE MIGHT SCARE THEM WITH HOW MANY KIDS WE SEE AFTER SCHOOL. 2530 PRIVATE SCHOOL PERFECTLY.

WHAT WE DO IN THE EVENING MIGHT FREAK THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT.

[GIGGLE] >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CAN I JUST CLARIFY. >> SURE.

>> THAT THIS WOULD STILL NEED CONDITIONAL USE.

IT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF OPERATION THAT WAS IN THERE BEFORE. PREVIOUS OPERATION HAS CEASED.

AND SO THERE ARE VARIOUS CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE THE TIME HOURS OF OPERATION, ACTUAL CAPACITY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT IS SAFER TO ACTUALLY TO GET

A CONDITIONAL USE. >> VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. AND YOU ARE DOING GOOD WORK.

THE CITY NEEDS IT. ANYONE ELSE IN PUBLIC HERE SPEAK? NOT SEEING ANYONE I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY FOR THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION APPROVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE MOTION BY MR. BRODERICK, SECOND BY MS. CLEMENTS CALLED THE ROLE,

PLEASE. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> GOT 10 MINUTES.

>> OKAY. NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.

WE HAVE A GARDEN CHANGE.Y THE WAY, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU REALLY HAVEN'T RESENTED

VERY MUCH. >> THIS IS MY SECOND TIME WITH

YOU GUYS. >> WELL, YOU HAVE DONE A VERY

GOOD JOB. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MR. GILMORE. >> YES.> I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST GOING TO TAKE THE DAY OFF [LAUGHING]

[d. Site Plan (Development Review and Design Review) - Bev Smith Toyota South - 3350 S. US Highway 1]

>> NO, NO. >> OKAY.

NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM 70, SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR SMITH TOYOTA 3350 S. U.S.

HIGHWAY 1. I THOUGHT WE SAW SOME PRELIMINARY PLANS ON THIS SOME TIME AGO. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES FROM WHAT WE ORIGINALLY SAW.

>> YOU DID. YOU DID.

[01:05:01]

HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES. >> A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ROAD

HAS GONE AWAY. >> THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY, THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY ROADS BY THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND F.2 NORTH

AND EAST. >> LOOKING FOR THE COUNTY TO

ABANDON ONE OF THE ROADS. >> O I THINK THAT K THAT WAS A VELOPMENT ÃI THINK THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A ANOTHER SALES

¦ >> ACROSS THE STREET.

IT T APPEARS THEY ARE GOING TO REMODEL CURRENT EXISTING.

>> THIS IS FOR A REMODEL. >> 'SSALES STAFF IS GOING TO

ENJOY THIS. >> PARKING LOT CHANGE ENTIRETY.

TELLS ABOUT IT. MAYBE I WILL LEARN MORE THAN

WHAT I READ. >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND ALSO BOARD MEMBERS. BEV SMITH TOYOTA SMILED.

DESIGN REVIEW LOCATED AT 3350 S. U.S. HIGHWAY 1. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 6.13 ACRES AND IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1, SOUTH OF SOUTHLAND DRIVE AND NORTH OF DIXIELAND DRIVE. THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE. FUTURE LAND USE OF GC CITY OF FOUR PIERCE AND ZONING OF C3 ZONING FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. COUNTY AND CITY ZONING IN FUTURE LAND USE. VERY SCATTERED AREA OF THE CITY LIMITS.THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE EXPANSION INCLUDES 21,001 HER 62 SQUARE FEET.

EXPANSION TO EXISTING AUTOMOBILE SALES AND SERVICE FACILITY. ALSO A CANOPY, AS YOU CAN SEE, ALONG SOUTHLAND DRIVE. APPLICANT PROPOSING SITE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH INCLUDE: DRAINAGE, PARKING ADJUSTMENT, AND SANITARY. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. INCLUDES SEVERAL DIFFERENT TREES, GREEN BUTTONWOOD'S, EAST PALATKA HOLLY, LITTLE GEM MAGNOLIA, CRAPE MYRTLES AND PALMETTOS.

SHRUBS AND GROUND COVER. THIS IS A WESTERN ELEVATION FACING U.S. HIGHWAY 1. EAST ELEVATION.

THIS IS NORTH -NORTH ELEVATIONS.

PARCEL ELEVATIONS AND OVERALL TO THE SOUTH.

THIS IS SOUTH ELEVATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH SEVERAL CONDITIONS.OMPLETION CERTIFICATION BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 123-6 REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE SITE.

NUMBER 2, BICYCLE PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER TENANTS PARKING SPACES CITY CODE 125-315.

A, ELEVATIONS AND TO DEMONSTRATE PROPOSED BUILDING.

PROPOSED BUILDING CONFORMS TO SPECIFICATIONS OF THE CITY ELEVATIONS AND TO DEMONSTRATE PROPOSED BUILDING.

PROPOSED BUILDING CONFORMS TO SPECIFICATIONS OF THE CITY CODE ELEVATIONS AND TO DEMONSTRATE PROPOSED BUILDING.

PROPOSED BUILDING CONFORMS TO SPECIFICATIONS OF THE CITY CODE 151 25-314. SITE CONNECTIONS ABUTTING RIGHTS OF WAYS PER SECTION CODE 105-317 B. NUMBER 5, ACROSS FROM TOY TO EMPLOYEE PARKING TO THE NORTH PROVIDED WHEN THE SITE PLAN FOR THE NORTH PARCEL IS SUBMITTED.

REASON FOR THAT ONE IS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING RECON CENTER TO THE NORTHERN PARCEL, WHICH IS NORTH OF SOUTHLAND DRIVE. THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU VERY SOON. NUMBER 6, PROVIDE A COVENANT IN LIEU OF UNITY OF TITLE OR SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEV SMITH TOYOTA SOUTH NORTH.

SUBJECT PARCEL BEFORE YOU AND SOUTH OF PARCEL WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING. APPLICANT HAS STATED BOTH PARCELS OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER, HOWEVER PARCEL TO THE NORTH CAN BE SOLD. WE WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE IT'S COULD BE SHARED PARKING, SOME EMPLOYEES PARKING ON THE SOUTH AND ON THE NORTH. AND NUMBER 7, A UNITY OF TITLE WITH THE CLERK OF COURTS AND PARCEL COMBINATION.

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PART OF THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WHERE IS IT? THEY HAD ORIGINALLY INCLUDED THIS ONE, BUT THEY HAVE SINCE REMOVED.

T. THAT ONE CAN BE TAKEN OFF.

>> TITLE NOT PUBLISHED UNITY OF TITLE NOT NECESSARY?

>> NOT NECESSARY. SIX CONDITIONS.

>> SIX CONDITIONS. >> THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ÃYOU

ARE NOT DONE. >> THESE ARE THE POSSIBLE

ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD. >> QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE?

>> GO AHEAD. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SKETCH OF, BACK AGAIN. THE OVERHEAD SHOT.

THIS ONE. YEAH, THAT ONE'S PERFECT.

21,000 SQUARE-FOOT CALCULATION, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CANOPY AREA ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING OR IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, ISN'T THAT A COVERED FAC'ADE AREA WHERE THEY PARKED VEHICLES ON DISPLAY. NOT CREATING 21,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA PER SE, WE HAVE A CANOPY AREA AND DISPLAY

AREA. >> DISPLAY.

MORE LIKE DISPLAY AREA. >> FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF

SQUARE FOOTAGE. >> CORRECT.

>> BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN MAYBE 1/3 OR 1/4 OF IT.

ACTUALLY LOWERS AMOUNT OF ON THE SITE TO ENCLOSED AREA TO ABOUT 15,000, SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.

>> CORRECT. >> COULD GO BACK TO THE CONDITIONS? I AM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS?

>>. [READING]

>> THE SITE IS NOT CHANGING. >> IS NOW.

PER HOUR CODE, ANYTIME THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING, CONDITIONAL USE, OR A SITE PLAN, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO BEAT THE CURRENT CODE. IT COULD BE AT THE TIME THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED THAT WASN'T IN THE CODE OR IT MAY BE BUILT IN THE COUNTY. I'M NOT SURE.

BUT ANYTIME YOU HAVE ANY NEW PROJECT YOU HAVE TO MEET THE CODE. THE CURRENT CODE .

>> SIDEWALKS ON ¦ >> ALONG THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE SIDEWALK ALONG U.S. HIGHWAY 1, BUT IT IS THE BUDDING ROADWAYS WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADD SIDEWALK.

WHICH IS SOUTHLAND AND DIXIE. >> OKAY.

>> AND THOSE ARE COUNTY ROADS, POSSIBILITY THAT COUNTY COULD ALLOW THEM TO DO PAVEMENT IN LIEU OF.

>> NOT REALLY FORT PIERCE. >> YES.

MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT. THEY COULD DO PAVEMENT IN IN LIEU OF. SUBJECT TO COUNTY'S APPROVAL.

>> ARE YOU SURE, YOU SAID THEY HAVE SIDEWALK ON U.S. 1, I DON'T RECOLLECT SIDEWALK ON U.S. 1.

>> YES, THERE IS SIDEWALK. >> I'M TALKING NORTH PART, NOT

CURRENT EXISTING PROPERTY. >> THE CURRENT EXISTING PROPERTY? YES, THEY HAVE SIDEWALK.

>> WHERE THE CURRENT DEALERSHIP IS?

>> YEAH.>> I CAN DO A GOOGLE LOOK.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS SIDEWALK OUT THERE, BUT THERE COULD BE. I AM SURE FRANK WILL TELL US.

>> I AM NOT SURE EITHER. THE STATE JUST FINISHED

SIDEWALK PROGRAM. >> MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

>> PROBABLY WASN'T PRIOR TO THAT, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE SPOT ON U.S. 1 THAT IS MISSING SIDEWALK AND THAT IS NEAR

EDWARDS. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> I'M ASSUMING EXPANSION BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THE PLAN, SOME TYPE OF SERVICE RELATED SPACE.

>> CORRECT. >> ALL INTENSITY PERSONNEL USE

ETC. HIGH-INTENSITY, EQUIPMENT. >> RIGHT.

>> WON'T HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT ON PARKING OR TRAFFIC OR THINGS

OF THIS NATURE? >> MR. (NAME?), COULD YOU GO

BACK TO THE CONDITIONS THERE? >> YES.

>> ESPECIALLY THE THINGS ABOUT ÃOKAY, AS I UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID.TEM 7 NO LONGER EFFECTIVE.

>> CORRECT. >> BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IN

QUESTION IS GOING TO BE SOLD. >> NO.

THEIR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, WHICH YOU DID THAT SHE HAD INCLUDED ADDITIONAL PARCEL TO THE EAST, WHICH THEY OWN.

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THINK IT WAS BETTER ÃIT'S RIGHT HERE.

THEY OWN THIS. >> SO, WHAT IS THE PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A UNITY OF PARKING AGREEMENT

WITH? >> THEY WANT TO THE NORTH.

>> THE ONE TO THE NORTH. >> BECAUSE THERE IS A PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMING FOR THE PLANNING BOARD.

>> AND WHY CAN'T THEY GET UNITY PARKING AGREEMENT THERE?>> FOR THAT ONE, WHY CAN'T THEY DO THAT ONE SET OF THIS ONE? YOU COULD DO THAT. YOU COULD REMOVE THAT CONDITION

AS WELL. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT AS IF THEY OWN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THEN WHY DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE A UNITY PARKING AGREEMENT WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY?> THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO SHARE PARKING

FROM BOTH LOCATIONS. >> OF FUTURE SIDE.

>> FOR EMPLOYEES. CORRECT.

CALCULATIONS FOR THE NORTHERN PART.

>> REALLY NOT APPLICABLE UNTIL THEY ¦

>> YEAH, WE CAN PUT INTO THE NORTH.

>> GOT IT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO STEP FORWARD? NOBODY FROM THE APPLICATION WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD?

[LAUGHING] >> IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND SIGN IN PLACE.

>> YES. BILL (NAME?) WITH ENGINEERING, VERO BEACH. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.

>> SO, YOU ARE ON. >> CLARIFY SOME QUESTIONS.

MENTIONED ABOUT ABANDONMENT OF SOUTHWOOD DRIVE, I CAN CLARIFY THAT. IT WAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO THERE WAS A PLAN SUBMITTED THAT WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THIS. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ABANDONING. AND THAT ONE AWAY.

SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO THIS NEW PLAN, WHICH IS JUST A REDEVELOPMENT OR ENHANCEMENT OF EXISTING FACILITY.

>> AT ONE TIME THEY WERE GOING TO BEND IN THE ROAD TO THE

NORTH AND RUN AROUND BEHIND. >> THERE LOOK AT BUILDING A WHOLE NEW FACILITY ON THE NORTH.

>> OKAY. I AM NOT DREAMING THIS ONE EITHER, THAT AM I?

[LAUGHING] >> VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. >> THIS WHOLE ENHANCEMENT IS PART OF TOYOTA'S REBANDING. ALL ACROSS THE NATION.

THEY REBRANDED OR UPGRADED ALL OF THEIR STORES AND STOREFRONT.

THAT IS PART OF THIS PROGRAM. WITH THIS HERE WE ARE ACTUALLY JUST ENHANCING OR IMPROVING THE CONDITIONS.

EXPANSION IN THE REAR IN THE BUILDING, THEY ARE ADDING A CAR WASH FACILITY. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE CANOPIES OUT IN THE PARKING LOT WHERE THEY ARE DETAILING AND WASHING CARS. THAT WILL NOW BE BROUGHT IN HOUSE IN THE BUILDING. SO, NOT AN EXPANSION OF SERVICES, JUST AN IMPROVEMENT. ALONG WITH THAT, WE ARE ALSO ADDING LIKE OIL/WATER SEPARATOR.

DON'T HAVE TO HANDLE THAT FLOW. AS YOU MENTIONED, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THEY DO HAVE A COVERED CANOPY.

THAT'S JUST BEING ENCLOSED FOR MORE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND THE CANOPY TO THE NORTH, THAT EXISTS TODAY, BUT IT'S SMALL AND DOESN'T SERVE ITS PURPOSE.

SO, IT IS BEING REPLACED WITH A LARGE CANOPY FOR THE SERVICE.

>> TELL ME ABOUT THIS ÃTHIS FILTRATION OF STORM WATER.

>> SO, WHEN YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF CARWASH FACILITY YOU JUST NEED TO PROVIDE AN OIL/WATER SEPARATOR, SAND SEPARATOR TO SEPARATE ALL OF THAT OIL OR RUNOFF SO THAT THE WATER RUNS

CLEAN INTO THE SYSTEM. >> WHAT IS GOING BACK INTO ¦

>> SANITARY. >> SO, IT'S NOT GOING TO STORM WATER IT'S GOING BACK TO THE SANITARY SYSTEM?

>> ALL IN COMPLIANCE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NOT SEEING ANY.

IS THERE MORE YOU CAN ADD? >> I CAN CLARIFY THE SIDEWALK.

>> WHY DO WE DO THAT. >> SIDEWALKS ARE COUNTY.

COUNTY RIGHT AWAY. THE ONE ON THE SOUTH ROAD, THE COUNTY HAS STATED WE ARE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE A SIDEWALK THERE. THERE ISN'T ONE THAT EXISTS

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THE ONE OF SOUTHWOOD DRIVE DOES EXIST, BUT IT'S ON THE DEALERSHIP PROPERTY. AND SO WE ARE ENHANCING A PORTION OF THAT TO MAKE THE CONNECTIONS TO THE ROAD.

BUT WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN EASEMENT OVER THAT

SIDEWALK. >> OKAY.>> IS THERE ONE ON

U.S. 1? >> YEAH.

DEAFLY WHEN THERE. >> YEAH ÃI AM DOWN THERE FREQUENTLY. YEAH.

YEAH. >> OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO, I THINK THAT CLARIFIES

MOST OF US. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS PUBLIC? NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHO ARE THE REST OF YOUR ENTOURAGE HERE?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC). >> I AM FRANK GONZALEZ.

>> CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM?

THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE THE GENERAL MANAGER.

>> VICE PRESIDENT. >> PRESENT.

>> VICE PRESIDENT. >> I-THE GOING ON 25 YEARS.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO WHAT WE HAD TODAY.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. AS YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER DEALERSHIPS UP AND DOWN U.S. 1 THEY HAVE DONE A RENOVATION OR THEY'VE GOT A NEW FACILITY.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS DONE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

FINALLY ABLE US TO COME TOGETHER AND DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO AND PROVIDE TO OUR CUSTOMERS WHAT WE NEED.

THE SHOW ROOM, TRYING TO MAKE IT BIGGER, MORE COMFORTABLE AREAS FOR CUSTOMERS TO BE ABLE TO COME IN THEIR, SIT DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOUNGE IN THERE.

ALSO INCORPORATE A VENDOR TO PROVIDE SOME FOOD.

OUR SERVICE BASE DOUBLING. BECAUSE TRYING TO GET CUSTOMERS AND OUT ON A TIMELY BASIS IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THIS SITUATION.

JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

WE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. TOYOTA IS A GREAT PRODUCT.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT PRODUCT. WE ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE BRAND LIKE IT SHOULD BE REPRESENTED TO THE DEGREE WE FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND WE WANT TO TAKE THE PROPER STEPS TO ACCOMMODATE IT AND DO THOSE THINGS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO US THANK YOU.

>> PUT ANOTHER FACE ON FORT PIERCE AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE THAT. >> WE HAVE FORT PIERCE AND WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOMETHING VERY NICE.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU AS NEIGHBOR. >> ARE YOU CELEBRATING 30TH ANNIVERSARY? I SAW SOMEWHERE.

>> YES, COMING UP. >> YOU'RE ALREADY ADVERTISING THAT FROM WHAT I SAW ON FACEBOOK OR SOMEWHERE.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD, ANY FURTHER

COMMENTS? >> MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION? I MAY HAVE BEEN OVERZEALOUS VIEWING THIS.

NUMBER 7, LIKE I SAID REMOVE THAT.

AS A SPEAKER STATED, WE COULD POSSIBLY 5 AND 6 COULD BE MOVED TO ONE THEY SUBMIT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE PLANNING BOARD FOR

THE NORTHERN PARCEL. >> SUGGEST YOU ARE GOING TO

AMEND THIS? >> MAKE SURE REPLACED 5 AND 6 FOR NORTHERN PARCEL. MAKE SURE IT IS COMPLETED.

TRYING TO COVER. >> THANK YOU.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT ÃI'VE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.HEN YOU LOOK AT PARKING SPACES ON A CASE LIKE THIS, I'M ONLY GOING TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION NOT LONG AGO

CONCERNING (NAME?). >> YES.

>> NUMBER BICYCLE RACKS REQUIRED, OF ALL PLACES, JENSEN'S. IT WAS QUITE A NUMBER BECAUSE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER PARKING SPACE.

BUT THE CASE OF DEALERSHIP, THAT HOLLAND IS A PARKING

SPACE. >> RIGHT.

>> SO, HOW A BICYCLE RACKS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE REQUIRED ON THIS SIDE? TALKING ABOUT CUSTOMER PARKING

SPACES. >> CORRECT.

ONLY CUSTOMER PARKING SPACES. >> COORDINATES DOZEN SEPARATE.

IT TALKS ABOUT PARKING SPACES, WHICH TELLS ME THEN IF THERE WERE 100 PARKING SPACES FOR THIS GENTLEMAN TO PARK THESE FINE TOYOTAS THE KEY IS OUT FRONT FOR SALE, WE SHOULD BE CALCULATING THOSE 100 SPACES INTO BICYCLE RACK DISCUSSIONS.

I REALIZE THAT IS RIDICULOUS. >> YES.

>> BUT IT AS AN EXAMPLE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS

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ORDINANCE VERY CLOSELY. >> CORRECT.

>> START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET THECOMMISSION TO ASK US

TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. >> CORRECT .

>> REALLY LOOSELY WRITTEN AND ALMOST TO THE POINT OF BEING RIDICULOUS. THIS IS A GOOD ONE TO SHOW IT

IS RIDICULOUS WITH. >> RIGHT.

>> THE OTHER COMMENT I GOT. >> YES.

>> HOW FAR IS WATER OFF OF THIS SITE? I'M TALKING STORM WATER HERE. I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBER UNDERSTANDS THAT I'VE GOT A VERY DEEP CONCERN WITH WATER, STORM WATER ALONG THE U.S. 1 CORRIDOR BECAUSE IT IS AFFECTING THE (WORD?) PROPERTY. I MAY BE STEPPING INTO DARK GRAY AREA. I MAY EVEN GET SPANKED LATER.

I'M GOING TO STEP IN AT THIS ANYWAY TAKE THE LUMPS IF I HAVE TO. WHERE DOES THE FALL STORM WATER

GO FROM THE SITE GO? >> I AM NOT SURE.

I WILL HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

>> PLEASE, IF YOU WANT. >> CURRENTLY EVERYTHING IS STORED UNDER THE PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW, STORM WATER.

OUTFALLS INTO SOUTHWOOD DRIVE RIGHT AWAY, THERE ARE DITCHES THERE. THAT HEADS EAST TO THE CANAL, WHICH IS THE SECTION OF THE CANAL IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY.

>> THE WATER HEADS EAST TOWARD HIGH POINT.

>> CORRECT. >> THEN THE SOUTH THROUGH THIS ÃWHAT WAS FINALLY HUMOROUS IN THE COMMISSIONER MEETING.

THE MYSTERIOUS CANAL. THE MYSTERIOUS DITCH THAT I AM HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING A FIRM UNDERSTANDING OF WHO SHOULD BE MAINTAINING THIS MYSTERIOUS DITCH.

HOW MANY GALLONS OF WATER CAN ACCEPT? HOW MANY GALLONS OF WATER CANNOT MOVE? WHEN IS THE HYDRAULICS OF THIS MYSTERIOUS DITCH GOING TO BE OVERTAKING?

[LAUGHING] >> YOUR TALK ABOUT THE LARGE CANAL TO THE EAST THAT RUNS NORTH-SOUTH.

>> NOT REALLY SO LARGE, BUT YEAH, OKAY.

I MEAN, I CAN JUMP ACROSS IT. THAT'S HOW LARGE IT IS.

[LAUGHING] >> THIS SECTION OF THE DITCH OR CANAL IS MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.

BUT MOST OF THAT CANAL IS MAINTAINED BY NORTH ST. LUCIE RIVER WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS SECTION Ã IT'S A SMALL SECTION OF MAYBE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND LINEAR FEET.

>> CLOSE SOUTH TO FLATS CREEK? EATS OVER INTO WATERING CONTAINMENT AREA ON SUNRISE. EVENTUALLY IT FINDS ITSELF TO TEN MILE CREEK THEN EAST FORK OF ST. LUCIE RIVER.

>> CORRECT. >> WINDS UP TO THE CITY

WATERSHED. >> CORRECT.

>> BUT IT'S GETTING DOWN THIS MYSTERIOUS DITCH.

AND I KNOW IT HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT NOW, BUT HE GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SOUNDING BOARD.

[LAUGHING] >> AND HERE'S WHERE MY PROBLEM COMES IN. AGAIN, NOT YOUR PROBLEM.NOT YOUR PROBLEM. JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A MINUTE.

HERE IS WHERE MY PROBLEM COMES IN BECAUSE I HAVE TO DEAL WITH WATER EVENTUALLY TO THE SOUTH OF ALL OF THIS.

WE'RE AT THE POINT IT WAS TO JOIN PLATTS CREEK.SEVERAL PROJE MYSTERIOUS DITCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN FORT PIERCE.

OBJECTS APPEAR ON THE CITY LEVEL.

ALTHOUGH, IT WAS REALLY Ã ADEQUATELY STATED A HOST OF ENGINEERS THAT LOOK OF THESE PROJECT.

BUT HERE IS MY EXPERIENCE, FROM THE TIME THE PROJECT COMES IN TO THE TIME IT GOES THROUGH THE TRC MEETING TO THE TIME AND COME TO THIS BOARD TO THE TIME IT GOES THROUGH THE COMMISSION, THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT A, SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT IS NOT YET BEEN ISSUED OR FINALIZED. AND B, THE COUNTY MAY NOT HAVE FINALIZED ANY AGREEMENTS REGARDING WASTEWATER.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOME OF THIS IS A LITTLE BACKWARDS.

WHEN WE ARE BRINGING THESE PROJECTS IN, WE LOOK AT THEM ISOLATED IN THIS CASE. BEV SMITH TO A. TOYOTA.

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AND WHEN DOES IT DITCH HYDRAULICS OF OUTFLOW WATER TAKE THAT DITCH AND THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN SMITH ÃYOU ARE TONY MAY STORE WATER OUTFLOW WATER TO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM UNDERGROUND. WHEN DOES THE WATER START BUBBLING UP THROUGH THE GRADES FEEDING THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE THAT THEY'VE GOT AND IT BECOMES A PROBLEM IN THEIR LODGE? AND I'M JUST RINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR A SOUNDING BOARD. I'M THINKING OF RISK.

[LAUGHING] >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> I MAY BE ABLE TO CLARIFY. AS A CONSULTANT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AGENCIES IF YOU ALLUDED TO THAT ADDRESS STORMWATER. SOUTH FLORIDA LOOKS AT WATER QUALITY, TREATMENT OF STORMWATER.OCAL AGENCY, WHICH IS THE COUNTY IN THIS CASE LOOKING AT THE VOLUME OF STORAGE THAT IS REQUIRED. EACH ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE AND ENSURE THAT A NEWLY DEVELOPED AND IS ADDRESSING BEFORE THEY APPROVE IT. SPIRIT REDEVELOPING, WE ARE TO BE THE WHOLE SITE INTO COMPLIANCE.

IF THERE WERE ANY ISSUES OR CURRENT ISSUES WITH STORMWATER, IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED UNDER THIS REDEVELOPMENT.

SO, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS WITH REDEVELOPMENT.

THE DITCHES OR THE CANALS ARE MAINTAINED BY THE AGENCIES.

IN THIS CASE, GO NORTH ST. LUCIE RIVER, WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. THEY ARE LOOKING AT THOSE FLOWS. MORE IS TO BE CONTRIBUTED.

THEY WILL UPSIZE OR MODIFY OUTFALLS.

RAISE AND LOWER THOSE. THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN SET OF DISHES ALSO MAINTAIN LOOK AT ALL INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THE ROAD THAT CONTRIBUTE TO EACH DITCH AND CANAL.

>> IT ALL SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL. >> I HOPE SO

[LAUGHING] >> I CAN ASSURE YOU A SITES GET REDEVELOPED THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES WITH

STORMWATER. >> WELL, I HOPE SO.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE TAKING WATER ON FROM OUR NEIGHBOR AND WE SHOULDN'T. I CAN ONLY SEE WHERE THE POSSIBILITY IS THAT IT COULD GET WORSE.

I AM DONE WITH THE SOAPBOX. KEVIN IS GOING, OH, GOSH Ã THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DILIGENCE BOARD.

>> MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH FOUR CONDITIONS BEING

SUGGESTED BY A STAFF. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> EMOTIONAL FOR APPROVAL FOUR CONDITIONS, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. SECOND BY MR. AUBREY.

CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE. >> YES.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.

I HOPE THAT I DIDN'T OVERRUN YOU TOO MUCH.

I JUST TOOK SOME ADVANTAGE.

[LAUGHING] >> PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANY PUBLIC

[9. BOARD COMMENTS]

NEXT ITEM, BOARD COMMENTS. WE HAVE TAKEN OFF HERE FOR SOME REASON THE DIRECTORS COMMENTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO, I DON'T. >> NONE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, LOOKING FOR GOOD

THINGS FROM YOU AND LONGEVITY. >> LONGEVITY.

>> NICE TREATMENT [LAUGHING]

>> ANY COMMENTS FROM A BOARD. >> BE GENTLE.

>> HELLO. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD PRETTY MUCH OFTEN ON LAST 10 YEARS.

I FREQUENTLY SEE THINGS THAT WE APPROVE, MAJOR PROJECTS.NOW, IF I GO OUT ON MY OWN LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD SEE THE RESULTS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. BUT PROJECTS ALL ACROSS THE CITY, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S HAPPENING AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF AID ÃA LIST OR AN UPDATE FROM THE PLANNING PARTMENT SIX MONTHS AFTER APPROVAL OF ANY MAJOR PROJECT AS TO WHERE THEY STAND.

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I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD HAPPY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IT GOES THROUGH ALL THE THINGS HERE THIS PLANNING BOARD AND THEN AT THE CITY COMMISSION. AND THEN IT GOES OUT F PEOPLE'S MINDS. I'M SURE EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON THE GROUND.

WHAT IS HAPPENING AS A RESULT OF ALL THIS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

>> PERHAPS IT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE SOME OF

THAT INFORMATION TO US. P>> WE WILL LIAISE WITH BUILDIN DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, SAME SITUATION AS YOU GUYS.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET KEPT FULLY IN THE LOOP AS BUILDING PERMITS UNFOLD. GOING THROUGH A PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL. WE DO NOT KNOW ESSENTIALLY IF THEY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, COMPLETED OR OCCUPANCY GRANTED,

WHATEVER. >> YOU COULD RIDE AROUND THE

COMMUNITY AND CHECK OUT. >> YOU ARE SAYING I CAN ADAPT?

[LAUGHING] >> VERY GOOD, MS. BAKER.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.