Aug 08, 2022 City Commission Conference Agenda

[1. Call to Order]

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. >>MAYOR: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS THE CONFERENCE AGENDA OF FORT PIERCE. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLE ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[a. Presentation by William Wims, President/CEO, New Horizons of the Treasure Coast and Okeechobee]

>> MR. WYNN JUST WALKED IN AND I WILL ASK THAT HE COME ON TOWN.

HE IS GOING TO TELL US ABOUT WHAT IS NEW AND WHAT IS HAPPENING AT NEW HORIZONS AS YOU KNOW.

THE CITY COMMISSION HAS REQUESTED THIS UPDATE BASED UPON OUR MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION AND CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

. >>MAYOR: WELCOME, MR. YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION AND IT IS ALREADY LOADED SO PROCEED.

>> I AM MR. MUCH WYNN. MISS BEVERLY.

>> I AM KATHERINE BEVERLY AND DIRECTOR OF INPATIENT SERVICES FOR NEW HORIZON OF THE TREASURE COAST IN OKEECHOBEE.

WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT THE OVERVIEW THAT NEW HORIZONS FIREFIGHTERS WHO OUR AREA. THE MISSION OF NEW HORIZON OF TREASURE COAST OKEECHOBEE DELIVERS ACCESSIBLE BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO CHILDREN, ADULTS AND FAMILIES TO ACHIEVE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WELLNESS BE THERE IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

NEW HORIZONS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1958 AND WE OFFER A WIDE RANGE OF PROGRAM ACROSS DIFFERENT FACILITIES INDIAN RIVER, ST.

LUCIE, MARTIN AND OKEECHOBEE COUNTIES.

WE OFFER ADULT SERVICES. OUR ADULT SERVICES FOR OUTPATIENT. START WITH OUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICES WHICH IS OUR FACT TEAM WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY -- FLORIDA COMMUNITY -- ASSERTIVE TREATMENT TEAM AND THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT WORKS WITH OUR ADULTS THAT REQUIRE THE MOST CARE, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF OUTPATIENT CARE TO KEEP THEM STABLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. WE OFFER ADULT PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES. AND WE OFFER OUR MEDICAID ASSISTED TREATMENT PROGRAM AND PSYCHOSOCIAL REHABILITATION INDEPENDENT LIVING SKILLS CENTER.

INJECTION CLINIC AND IN ST. LUCIE AND MARTEN COUNTIES.

OUR INPATIENT. WE HAVE OUR DETOXIFICATION UNIT AND OFFER SUBSTANCE ABUSE WITHDRAWAL TREATMENT AND THESE ARE PRACTICED UNDER THE PROVISION OF A LICENSED PSYCHIATRIST. WE ALSO HAVE OUR INDEPENDENCE RECOVERY PROGRAM WHICH IS A 28-DAY TREATMENT PROGRAM.

FOLLOWS THE 12-STEP MODEL LOCATED ON OUR MIDWAY CAMPUS.

WE OFFER THE TRANSITIONAL LIVING 16-BED SUPERVISED PROGRAM AND FOR CLIENTS STEPPING DOWN FROM THE STATE HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

WE ALSO OFFER OUR ADULT CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.

A 30-BED UNIT AND A BAKER ACT RECEIVING FACILITY.

WE OFFER STABILIZATION SERVICES. ALSO UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A PHYSICIAN. IN TERMS OF OUR CHILDREN SERVICES, WE OFFER A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES AS WELL.

OUR INPATIENT SERVICES, WE HAVE OUR CCSU OUR CHILDREN CRISIS UNIT. A 20-BED UNIT PROVIDING 24-HOUR-A-DAY CARE. THIS IS ALSO A BAKER ACT RECEIVING FACILITY FOR CHILDREN FROM THE AGES OF SIX TO 17 THAT ARE REQUIRING IMMEDIATE MENTAL HEALTH AND OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE CRISIS INTERVENTION. WE ALSO HAVE OUR CHILDREN'S COMMUNITY AVERAGES TEAM WHICH IS OUR CAT TEAM AND THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF OUTPATIENT SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR CHILDREN.

THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO ARE AT RISK FOR OUT-OF-HOME PLACEMENT.

CHILDREN BETWEEN THE AGES OF 11 AND 21 ARE SERVED IN THIS PROGRAM. WE ALSO OFFER A WIDE RANGE OF

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THAT'S IT FOR MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THERE WERE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ASKED IN TERMS OF SERVICE PROVISION ACROSS THE COUNTIES.

WE SERVE APPROXIMATELY 15,000 CLIENTS WITHIN THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA, SPECIFIC TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY, WE SERVE A LITTLE OVER 6,000 IN THE LAST YEAR AND ABOUT 2600 OF THOSE BEING HERE IN FORT PIE PIERCE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU ARE THE SAME AS THE 19 JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.

IS THAT INTENTIONAL? THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA -- YOU SERVE THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA. THAT MEANS YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH

THE COURTS? >> YES.

>>MAYOR: OKAY. HOW ARE YOU FUNDED?

>>MAYOR: I DEFER TO MR. WIMS. >> WE GET SOME MONEY FROM DCF.

WE GET SOME MONEY FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS -- ALL FOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE GET SOME MONEY FROM PRIVATE DONORS. WE GET SOME MONEY FROM -- A MIXED BAG OF PEOPLE WE GET FUNDING FROM.

>>MAYOR: YOU ARE NOT A STATE AGENCY BUT YOU GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE FOR SOME THINGS. AND DO YOU HAVE PRIVATE PATIENTS WITH INSURANCE -- THAT HAVE INSURANCE? OKAY. SO KIND OF A MIXTURE OF A NUMBER

OF THINGS. >> YES.

>>MAYOR: ANYBODY ELSE. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I KNOW YOU DO AMAZING WORK. A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T KNOW IT IS THERE AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ISSUES.

AND FOR ME, IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY.

YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK THERE NEEDS -- IF YOU HAVE A CHART OR A WAY OR A BOOKLET OR SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP US THAT HAVE NO FAMILIARITY WITH IT WHATSOEVER TO IDENTIFY SOMEBODY IN PROBLEM OR STRESS -- A LOT OF TIMES WE WALK THE OTHER WAY AND SAY HEY, HAVE A NICE DAY AND WALK ON. BUT A STEP IN THERE TO IDENTIFY A POTENTIAL PROBLEM AND KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT. I DO NOT.

I EMPLOY PEOPLE. YOU I HAD EMPLOYEES.

I HAD FAMILY MECHANICS -- GOD, FAMILY MEMBERS.

I WILL GET AWAY FROM THE FAMILY MEMBERS.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS THAT RATHER THAN NORMAL STRESS AND NORMAL ISSUES AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THERE IS DEFINITELY AN UNDERLYING PROBLEM AND I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY IDENTIFY THAT. IF I DID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO

DO WITH IT. >> THAT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO USE OUR MOBILE RESPONSE TEAM.

THEY ARE STAFFED AND AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A TE, SEVEN TEES A WEEK. QUICK PHONE CALL.

HEY, HAVE A CONCERN. NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WITH THIS.

MOBILE RESPONSE IS ABLE TO COME OUT.

SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE SITUATION.

THEY ARE ABLE TO ASSESS IN A MOMENT AND PROVIDE FOLLOW-UP LINKAGES, REFERRALS AS NEEDED FOR THE SITUATION.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: SO IF IT IS SOMEONE -- LET'S SAY A CASUAL ACQUAINTANCE AND THE PERSON IS ACTING ERRATICALLY, CRAZY.

ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE YOU THINK THEY MAY DO DAMAGE TO THEMSELVES OR SOMEONE ELSE. YOU CALL THAT NUMBER?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU

REPORT THEM? >> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY. FOR THAT IT IS SEEKING ASSISTANCE, RIGHT. WE ARE SEEKING ASSISTANCE.

WE WANT TO MAKE THAT REFERRAL. WE WANT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION SO THE PERSON IS ABLE TO GET THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: OKAY. Y'ALL BE CAREFUL NOW.

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. >>MAYOR: SAME GOES FOR YOU TOO.

[LAUGHTER] MADAM MAYOR, TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER PERONA. THE NUMBER DOES WORK.

I HAD SEVERAL YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I COULDN'T HELP.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GET SOMEBODY AND YOU TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THE PARENTS CALL.

AND HELP WAS RECEIVED AND A LOT OF PARENTS SAID, COACH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT NUMBER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW.

SO -- WE DIDN'T KNOW SO -- IT IS NOT REPORTING THEM LIKE SHE SAID. THEY ARE COMING OUT BECAUSE NOT LIKE WHEN THEY COME OUT -- NOT LIKE -- RIGHT.

WHAT'S YOUR NAME. STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT IS REALLY MORE OF TALKING AND LETTING THE PERSON TALK -- THIS IS FROM WHAT I OBSERVED. LETTING THE PERSON TALK TO THEM.

AND THEN JUST -- JUST THE TALKING PART KIND OF CALMS DOWN THE SITUATION AND THEY WILL DO THEIR EVALUATION.

SO ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HOW CAN THIS BODY HELP GET THAT NUMBER OUT OR HELP GET THE KNOWLEDGE OUT TO THE THAT THERE IS HELP BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID 2600 IN FORT PIERCE.

THAT IS THE NUMBER. I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THERE IS

ANOTHER 2600 -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: TWICE AS MANY.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT DOESN'T KNOW THE NUMBER AND JUST NEEDS TO HELP. SO ANYTHING I CAN DO FROM MY CHAIR -- AND I AM PRETTY SURE THAT THE COMMISSION CAN TO DO TRY TO GET THAT NUMBER OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF -- I LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY IF, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON THE WEB SITE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY CONFLICTS THERE. BUT JUST ANOTHER AVENUE FOR RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.

I HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT IT IN A MEETING.

LET ME GO TRY TO FIND THIS NUMBER FOR MY LOVED ONE AND MY FRIEND. I THINK IT WILL HELP.

WE ACTUALLY -- EXCUSE ME, SIR. .

>>MAYOR: YES, SIR. >> WE MADE IT EASIER.

YES, WE HAD THAT NUMBER BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME REMEMBER THAT WHOLE NUMBER. THEY CAN CAUGHT 2-1-1 AND THEY WILL LINK US TO THEM. A DIRECT HANDOFF PERSON TO PERSON AND THEY BACK OUT OF IT. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, OH, BIG BROTHER IS TRYING TO LOOK AT ME.

HEAR THIS AND THAT. YOU GET CONTACTED WITH THAT PERSON AND THEY MOVE AWAY AND YOU END UP TALKING TO THAT

PERSON ONE ON ONE SO -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALMOST LIKE 911

BUT FOR MENTAL HEALTH. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THAT IS IMPORTANT. I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

THAT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE RESISTANCE FOR CALLING BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS BIG BROTHER AND THEY THINK IT IS GOING TO BE MONITORED. BUT LIKE I SAID, WHAT I WITNESSED, IT WAS JUST HELP. SO -- I DID FORGET ABOUT THE 2-1-1. YOU HAD TO REMIND ME OF THIS.

>> PEOPLE DO IT ALL THE TIME. ITS NOT A -- WE ARE NOT CALLING -- OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS NOT TO PUT YOU IN-PATIENT, IT IS TO HELP YOU GET SERVICES THAT YOU YOU NEED BECAUSE 90% OF THE PEOPLE WE SEE AND 99% OF PEOPLE DON'T NEED THAT IN-PERSON AND NEED SOMEBODY TO TALK TO AND GUIDE THEM THE RIGHT WAY.

WHEN THEY ARE SWIRLING AROUND IN THEIR HEAD, THEY CAN'T GET THEIR THOUGHTS. OUR JOB IS TO LINK TO THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR.

. >>MAYOR: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT HOW TO DO THAT. POPULATION IS GREATLY INCREASING IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. DO YOU HAVE A PLAN? MOBILE RESPONSE IS ACTUALLY A GREAT WAY TO DEFER CAPITAL EXPENSES. WHAT KIND OF FORECAST FOR THE

NEXT FIVE OR EIGHT YEARS? >> LET'S SAY THE FIRST TWO.

THE FIRST TWO IS TAKING CARE OF HOME AND TAKING CARE OF OUR ACTUAL WONDERFUL SITE THAT WE HAVE AT 4500 MIDWAY AND TAKING CARE OF 709. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH 709 TO SAY THE LEAST. WE ARE TRYING TO DO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR AS TAKING CARE OF IT BECAUSE WHERE MOST OF OUR ENGINE CLIENTS WHO CAN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRANSPORTATION ON MIDWAY. PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK FROM FEDERAL TO 4500. A LONG WALK FOR PEOPLE.

WE DID GET SOME ASSISTANCE FROM WALMART HELPING TO DONATE BIKES.

IF YOU EVER SEE A LIME-COLORED, ORANGE-COLORED OR BLUE BIKE ON MIDWAY, THE HELP OF WALMART AND THEY DONATED SOME BIKES AND PEOPLE WERE HAVING TROUBLE TO GET TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND 709 IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND PEOPLE CAN GET DROPPED OFF AND GO RIGHT TO 709. WE HAVE A COUPLE --

>> 709. >>MAYOR: 709.

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>> SOUTH 5TH STREET JUST DOWN THE ROAD.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: GOT IT.

>>MAYOR: WHAT GOES ON THERE? >> OUR FACT TEAM IS THERE.

YOUR INJECTION TEAM IS THERE. OUR PSYCHIATRISTS ARE THERE.

THEY CAN COME AND GET PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEIR SERVICES.

IT IS LOCAL. IT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO THEM SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MOVING HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

IT IS EASIER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE SEEN RIGHT THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE -- WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO DO ZOOM, BUT WE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME BACK IN TO SEE THE PSYCHIATRIST. THAT ONE ON ONE IS MORE -- IT IS -- IT IS BETTER TAKEN WHEN YOU ARE IN FRONT OF YOUR PSYCHIATRIST THAN A LITTLE BOX LOOKING AT THE PERSON.

SO THEY ENJOY COMING IN. THEY ACTUALLY WANTED TO COME BACK IN. SO THAT WAS REFRESHING THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE AN ACTUAL PERSON TO TALK TO.

. >>MAYOR: THAT IS KIND OF LIKE A SATELLITE OF 4500. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

>> YES. >>MAYOR: THE PARK NEARBY.

>> WHEN THE PARK SHUTS DOWN, THEY USUALLY COME RIGHT OVER TO 5TH STREET BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BENCHES -- WE GOT RID OF THE PICNIC TABLE. BUT WE HAVE BENCHES WHERE THEY COME OVER WHEN THEY SHUT THE PARK DOWN.

. >>MAYOR: YEAH.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MADAM MAYOR.

>>MAYOR: YES. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: KILLING ME AND MAYBE MY EARLY MORNING ADHD.

THE PHONE NUMBER WAS MISSING A DIGIT.

>> AN ADDITIONAL ZERO THERE. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YOU. .

>>MAYOR: 2600? >> YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR: ALL RIGHTY. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CAN TO DO HELP YOU?

>> NOT AT THIS TIME. I HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH APPEAR COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS AND WE ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT SOME THINGS STILL REACHING OUT TALKING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS SEURITY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE POPULATION THAT COMES FROM THE PARK THAT COMES OVER.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND ALWAYS A CONSTANT STRUGGLE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: A STRUGGLE FOR BUSINESSES AROUND THERE TOO.

I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT AND WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT.

I KNOW YOU WANT TO HELP THEM AND WE WANT THEM TO GET HELP.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S -- ITS A'S SOMETIMES VERY CONCERNING FOR SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THERE.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. WE APPRECIATE IT.

[b. Fort Pierce Downtown Parking Analysis Presentation.]

>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE FORT PIERCE DOWNTOWN PARKING ANALYSIS.

>> WE HAVE OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR THAT WILL BE WORK WITH OUR REMOTE CONSULTANT THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE ON TEAMS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

IT WILL BE A TEAMS PRESENTATION BY OUR CONSULTING FOLKS WALKER PARKING CONSULTANTS AND WE WILL GET AN UPDATE ON THE LATEST TASK ASSIGN TO THEM BY THE CITY COMMISSION.

. >>MAYOR: WE HAVE OUR CHAIRMAN OF

OUR PARKING COMMISSION HERE? >> THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE. HE IS HERE AS WELL AND HE A AND AUDRIA WILL BE PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION. .

>>MAYOR: GREAT. MISS MORWELLS.

>> YES, GOOD MORNING. A LITTLE INTRODUCTION BEFORE WE GET STARTED. IN JANUARY WALKER CONSULTANTS WAS ENGAGED TO ASSIST THE CITY WITH THE PARKING NEEDS ANALYSIS OF DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. THAT INCLUDED REVIEWING CURRENT NEEDS AND PROVIDING INPUT ON THE LOCATION OF FUTURE PARKING INVENTORY NEEDS. THE REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO THE -- WAS PRESENTED TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE IN JUNE.

AND THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND THEY CAME BACK IN JULY TO DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BOARD. AND AFTER THE PRESENTATION MR. BRODERICK, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE WILL PRESENT THOSE COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

WE HAVE ON THE LINE TOM ZUPCA. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, TOM, TO INTRODUCE THE TEAM MEMBERS THAT HAVE JOINED US THIS

MORNING. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

I HOPE YOU ARE WELL. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS VIRTUALLY.

I KNOW THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT SOMETIMES, BUT I APPRECIATE SARAH AND AUDRIA'S HELP. THANK YOU FOR MAKE THIS AS EASY

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WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO INTO EVERY BIT OF DETAIL.

WE WILL KEEP IT TO A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW AND ALLOW US ASK THE QUESTIONS AND DETAILS THAT YOU WANT FURTHER ANSWERED.

INTRODUCING MYSELF. I MET SOME OF YOU BEFORE, TOM ZUPCA, THE SENIOR CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT AND SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH YOU ALL AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MEGAN GARDO, OUR LEAD ANALYST ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

SHE HAS DONE A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING ANALYZING THE SHARED PARKING SUPPLY AND DEMAND ANALYSIS AND SHE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE DETAILS FAR BETTER THAN I COULD.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR HER TO GET THE RECOGNITION AND BE ALLOWED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU ALL. BECAUSE SHE WILL DO MUCH BETTER THAN I WILL. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. BRIEFLY TO GET INTO WHAT OUR SCOPE WAS. AUDRIA MENTIONED THE SCOPE.

LOOKING FOR PARKING CAPACITY TO MEET CURRENT NEEDS AND PROJECTED THE NEEDS CENTERED AROUND RIGHT NOW WHAT IS COMING IS THE KINGS LANDING DEVELOPMENT. IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING, JUST HIGH LEVEL IDENTIFY WHERE A PARKING COLLECTOR, LET'S SAY A PARKING GARAGE MAY BE WARRANTED OR RECOM RECOMMENDED.

AGAIN WE DID NOT DO A DETAILED ANALYSIS.

THAT WAS NOT THE OBJECT OF THE SCOPE.

BUT TO KEEP A HIGH LEVEL LOOK -- KIND OF LIKE THE LITMUS TEST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THIS AS A 10,000-FOOT VIEW REPORT.

IT IS MUCH MORE OF A EXERCISE REPORT THAN -- RATHER THAN A SUPER DETAILED REPORT. AGAIN, WE DID NOT COLLECT INVENTORY -- SORRY, UTILIZATION OF INVENTORY DATA.

WE WEREN'T OUT THERE COUNTING CARS, COUNTING WHAT HAD THE INVENTORY WAS BEING USED. THIS WAS SIMPLY AN EXERCISE TO TAKE THE DEMAND AND THE LAND USE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE AND PROJECT WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IT COULD BE.

THE REASON WHY WE SAY SUCH A HIGH LEVEL VIEW AND MEGAN WILL GET INTO IT AND TALK GREATER DETAIL.

IT IS BECAUSE DOWNTOWNS ARE TYPICALLY MUCH MORE DYNAMIC.

FAR EASIER FOR US TO LOOK AT, LET'S SAY, THE KING'S LANDING DEVELOPMENT, AND THE DEMAND IT WILL ANTICIPATE AND THE DOWNTOWN THAT HAS NOOKS, CRANNIES AND LAND USES THAT SOMETIMES CAN BE GRANDFATHERED IN OR SQUARE FOOTAGES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AS ACCURATE AS A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

I WILL LET HER GET INTO DETAIL A LITTLE BIT LATER.

WE ARE LOOKING AT -- I WANT TO SET THE TABLE THIS IS A HIGH-LEVEL VIEW TO GET A GOOD GLIMPSE AND HOPEFULLY AGE YOU ALL IN THE PLANNING OF YOUR DOWNTOWN.

SO IN ORDER TO DO OUR WORK, WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIVIDE THE -- THE STUDY AREA INTO THREE ZONES..I WILL NOT SAY IT WAS RANDOM. IT WAS PROMINENTLY CENTERED AROUND THE EXISTING DOWNTOWN WHICH IS ZONE 3 AND WE CONSIDER THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN IN THE MOMENT.

WHICH IS ZONE 3. ZONE 2 WILL CONTAIN THE KING'S LANDING DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THE GROUND IN ADDITION TO THE MARINA. AND ZONE 1, IS MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD THAT OCCUR DOWN THE ROAD. SO THE REASONS FOR THESE DIFFERENT ZONES IS TO KINDS OF CONTEXTUALIZE THE ANTICIPATED DEMAND JUST TO SAY IF WE WERE TO PUT THIS ALL IN ONE GIANT ZONE, WE COULD SAY THAT THE ENTIRE -- THE ENTIRE ZONE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING BUT IF THE PARKING IS IN ZONE 1 AND YOU NEED IT IN ZONE 3, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE FROM A WALKABILITY AND CUSTOMER EXPECTATION. WE PUT IT IN ZONE SO THE CAPTURE -- EACH ZONE IS A LITTLE BIT INDEPENDENT AND MORE REASONABLE WALKING DISTANCE AND HELPS WITH THE PERCEPTION OF HOW PEOPLE THINK THERE IS EITHER A PARKING PROBLEM.

MEG. I WILL LET MEGAN GET INTO THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE USE TO CONDUCT THE ANALYSIS.

>> GREAT. AS TOM NOTED EARLIER, WE DID NOT GET PARKING DATA INTO THE PROJECT, WE HAD THE SHARED METHODOLOGY TO STUDY THE NEED WITHIN EACH ZONE.

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IT HAS BEEN CODIFIED INTO ZONING ORDINANCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND MEANS OF RECOMMEND DAG PARKING CAPACITY FROM MIXED USE DEVEL DEVELOPMENTS.

BY DEFINITION, SHARED PARKING IS THE ABILITY OF TWO OR MORE LAND USES TO SHARE THE SAME PARKING RESOURCE WITHOUT ENCROACHMENT.

IN THIS MORE THAN 55 LOUISES BUILT INTO THE MODEL AND GENRES 494 PARKING SPACE AND RECOMMENDS A PEAK.

THAT IS 19 HOURS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

13 DIFFERENT WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND CONDITIONS.

NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE FIVE MAIN COMPONENTS OR STEPS IN THE SHARED PARKING METHODOLOGY.

FIRST AND FOREMOST IS IDENTIFYING THE MIX OF LOUISES DOWNTOWN. THEN WE APPLY WHAT IS CALLED A BASE PARKING DEMAND RATIO TO DETERMINE THE UNADJUSTED PARKING DEMAND. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WOULD THE PARKING DEMAND BE IF THIS WAS A STAND-ALONE PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. THE MONTHLY AND HOURLY FACTORS ARE USED TO ACCOUNT FOR VARIATIONS AND ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THE YEAR. AND THE NONCAPTIVE ADJUST AMENT FACTOR COUNTS FOR THE INTERACTION OF AND WILL USES.

AND FINALLY THE DRIVE ALLOWS FOR ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, WE LOOKED AT STEP ONE, WHERE WE QUANTIFIED THE QUANTITY AND TYPE OF LAND USES IN THE AREA BASED ON THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S WEB SITE AND TO WORK WITH AUDRIA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THERE, WHAT WASN'T THERE AND WHAT THE TYPES OF LAND USES OR RESTAURANTS WERE.

A COUPLE OF THE LANDUSES THAT -- THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE RECOGNIZED IN IT THE DOWNTOWN WAS CITY HALL WHICH WAS CLASSIFIED AS GOVERNMENT OFFICE SPACE.

THE COURTHOUSE COMPLEX WHICH WAS CATEGORIZED AS JUDICIAL SPACE.

BOTH THE BACCHUS MUSEUM AND THE MANATEE OBSERVATION CENTER WHICH WERE IDENTIFIED AS MUSEUMS. WITHIN THE ZONE, WE WERE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THE AMOUNTS OF -- THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH LAND USE.

NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT STEP WAS APPLYING BASE PARKING RATIOS TO EACH LAND USE IN ORDER TO CALCULATE THE UNADJUSTED OR UNSHARED PARKING NEEDS.

ESSENTIALLY, THE UNADJUSTED PARKING DEMAND IF IT IS LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND 100% OF PEOPLE DROVE TO THE SITE. N NEXT. MONTHLY AND HOURLY PRESENT FACTORS THAT ACCOUNT FOR VARIABILITY AND LAND USE AND ACTIVITIES. DIFFERENT LAND USES EXPERIENCE ACTIVITIES OR DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS.

FOR EXAMPLE, OFFICE SPACE PEAKS AROUND 10 A.M. AND 2 P.M. BUT FALLS OFF AFTER 5 P.M. CONVERSELY, RESIDENTIAL SPACE PEAKS IN THE EVENING BUT IS LOW BETWEEN 8 A.M. AND 5 P.M.

NEXT. WE ALSO ACCOUNTED FOR NONCAPITAL ADJUSTMENTS WHICH REDUCES THE PARKING NEEDS BY -- BY COUNTING PARKER THAT ARE ALREADY VISITING ANOTHER LAND USE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS EMPLOYEES THAT GO OUT TO LUNCH AND DON'T MOVE THEIR CONSIDERS OR RESIDENTS THAT -- THAT VISIT THE GROCERY STORE. THAT WALK TO THE GROCERY STORE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE LAST ADJUSTMENT FACTOR THAT WE MAKE IS THE DRIVE RATIO OR THE MOBILE SPLIT. ATIO ACCOUNTSS AND EMPLOYEES THAT ARRIVE TO THE SITE VIA MEANS OTHER THAN PERSONAL VEHICLES. WE GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY FOR EMPLOYEES.

AND THEN WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT RESIDENTS AND CUSTOMERS

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BASED OFF OF THE EMPLOYEE DATA. >> OKAY.

SO THANKS, MEGAN. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE ACTUAL PARKING SUPPLY ESPECIALLY FOR THE DIFFERENT ZONES WE APPLIED FOR THIS STUDY, YOU SEE THAT -- AGAIN, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PARKING INVENTORY IS OF OVER 1900 SPACES IS IN THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN CENTER IN ZONE 3 WITH ANOTHER 600 AND SO SPACES IN ZONE 2, WHICH IS THE FUTURE AREA OF KING'S LANDING DEVELOPMENT. AND ANOTHER 374, ANOTHER 400 SPACES IN ZONE 1. THE REPORT HAS THIS DETAILED, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS SEEN ON THE PRESENTATION HERE.

WHETHER IT IS ON-STREET, OFF-STREET, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.

AGAIN, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THE ACTUAL INVENTORY IS.

AND IN YOUR -- IN YOUR ZONE STUDY AREA.

WHEN YOU COMPARE MEGAN'S INITIAL ANALYSIS FOR EXISTING WEEKDAY CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND THE SURPLUS. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS MEANS ON A TYPICAL PEAK DAY, YOU WILL HAVE A SURPLUS IN EACH OF THESE AREAS IN ZONE 1 OF 130 SPACES. ZONE TWO ABOUT 110.

ZONE 3 UPWARD OF 500 SPACES. THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL PEAK BUSY TIME. BEFORE ANYBODY GETS EXCITED TOO MUCH, THIS DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR A POP-UP SPECIAL EVENT OR EVEN A PLANNED SPECIAL EVENT THAT THE CITY MIGHT HOLD.

SO THIS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR THE PEAK TIMES THAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO PLAN AN EVENT, YOU WOULD HAVEX NUMBER OF SPACES.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ZONE 2, YOU WOULD HAVE OVER 100 SPACES OF WHICH TO START FROM. AND IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DEMAND GENERATED BY THE EVENT, WE WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS IT IN THAT WAY. SO IT REALLY COMES TO YOU ALL TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT THE INVENTORY TO BE SUPPLIED FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS POSSIBLY ME COME AND CERTAIN EVENTS TO HAVE A CRUNCH AND FIND ALTERNATIVE MODES AND METHODS TO GET PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. IF YOU CONSIDER INVENTORY OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR ZONE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ONCE-A-YEAR EVENT THAT COMES ALONG. WE ARE JUST PRESENTING THE NUMBERS AS WE CAN SEE THEM. SO MEG, I WILL LET YOU GET BACK

TO FUTURE CHANGES. >> SURE.

SO THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO COMPONENTS WE CONSIDERED, ONE PROTECTING FUTURE PARKING ADEQUACY WITHIN THE STUDY AREA.

FIRST LOOKED AT CHANGES TO THE PARKING SUPPLY.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

NEXT SLIDE. PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR DOWNTOWN IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WAS KING'S LANDING. PROJECT RETAIL, HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL SPACE AS WELL AS ABOUT 300 NEW PARKING SPACES.

I WILL NOTE, HOWEVER, AS I WAS RESEARCHING OVER THE WEEKEND THAT OUR MODEL -- OR OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BUILDING PROGRAMS FROM KING'S LANDING MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT. WE UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE MORE RESIDENTIAL THAN WE PLANNED FOR AND LITTLE LESS RETAIL-COMMERCIAL SPACE. NEXT SLIDE.

THE CHANGES TO THE PARKING SUPPLY.

THE CITY FOR THREE. THE EXPANSION OF THE LOT.

DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW PARKING LOT ALONG ATLANTIC APPLICANT AVENUE AND EXTENSION OF EXISTING PARKING ALONG DEPOT DRIVE.

NEXT SLIDE. IN TOTAL, WE ARE ANTICIPATING A NET INCREASE OF 422 SPACES IN THE STUDY AREA, WHICH INCLUDES NEARLY 300 SPACES ASSOCIATED WITH KING'S LANDING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WHAT DOES FUTURE PARKING ADEQUACY LOOK LIKE IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE? THE EXISTING SHARED -- SHARED PARKING MODEL WAS ADJUSTED TO

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THOSE 130 SPACES CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH OTHER PARKING WITHIN THE ZONE OR WITHIN THE TOTAL DOWNTOWN, BUT THE PROJECT ITSELF IS EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE ABOUT 130-SPACE DEFICIT.

NEXT SLIDE. DURING PEAK WEEKEND CONDITIONS, ZONES 1 AND # ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING AND ZONE # IS PREDICT TO HAVE A 96-SPACE DEFICIT.

THIS DEFICIT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE. IN ZONE #, THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE 48% OF THE FUTURE DEMAND IN THE ZONE AND ONLY PROVIDE ABOUT 33% OF THE PARKING SUPPLY.

THE RESULT IS A NEARLY #00-SPACE DEFICIT ON THE KING'S LANDING SITE. AGAIN THE PARKING WITHIN ZONE 2 WON'T BE SUFFICIENT TO OFFSET ANY DEFICIT ON KING'S LANDING.

NOT TO SAY THAT THE PARKING AVAILABLE IN ZONES 1 AND 3 WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO MEET ANY OVERFLOW DEMAND.

PLENTY OF CAPACITY WITHIN TWO TO THREE BLOCKS TO OFFSET ANY -- ANY SHORTAGES DUE TO KING'S LANDING.

OKAY. WE ARE COMING IN TO THE HOME STRETCH HERE WITH OUR PRESENTATION.

THE NEXT STEP FOR US WAS THEN TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES WHERE ADDITIONAL INVENTORY COULD BE ADDED IN THE FORM OF A STRUCTURED PARKING ZONE. AGAIN, HE WANT TO STRESS WE DID NOT, YOU KNOW, GET INTO A VERY COMPREHENSIVE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS. THIS IS REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT EASILY WHAT LAND MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AND FROM THE -- AT THE MOST SIMPLE OF DEFINITIONS, WHERE LEVEL OF SERVICES MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE AND THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A PARKING STRUCTURE.

A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER AND I AM NOT GOING TO READ THE SLIDE. PROXIMITY, GENERATORS, ETC.

THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THE WALKING FROM VEHICLE TO DESTINATION RELATIVELY PLEASANT BECAUSE WHILE IT WORKS IN BIG CITIES LIKE IN NEW YORK, ATLANTA, BOSTON, PLACES LIKE THAT, DOWN HERE IN FLORIDA, PEOPLE ARE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO WALKING. IT IS HOT.

IT RAINS, AND JUST NOT THE LIFESTYLE WE LIVE JUST YET.

SO WHEN WE CONSIDER THESE KIND OF STRUCTURES, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE BUILD THEM IN THE MOST OPTIMAL PLACES SO THEY WILL ACTUALLY GET USED. IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, WE PROPOSE THREE SITES: AND I WANT TO STRESS THAT NO PARTICULAR ORDER, PACED ON HOW WE LAID IT OUT ON THE PAPER.

THE FIRST SITE IS THE SMALL PARCEL JUST NORTH OF AVENUE A BEHIND THE RESTAURANT ESTABLISHMENTS THERE ON AV AVENUE A. IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ODD-SHAPED SITE BUT A DECENTLY SIZED SITE.

NOT A PARCEL THAT THE CITY OWNS BUT THE MOST OPTIMAL WALKING DISTANCE FROM KING'S LANDING OF THE THREE SITES WE ARE PROPOSING. IT IS -- IF THAT IS YOUR GOAL TO MAKE IT OPTIMAL FOR WALKING DISTANCE TO THE KING'S LANDING SITE. TWO PHLOX FROM THE CURRENT COUNTY PARKING GARAGE THAT WE KNOW IS UNDERUTILIZED AT THE MOMENT AND A SITE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE ZONE 2.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN COLORS IS THE WALK GRAPH.

IN PREVIOUS REPORTS YOU MAY SEE A CIRCULAR GRAPHIC WE HAVE USED AS FAR AS CALCULATING A LEVEL OF SERVICE WHICH IS THE DISTANCE OF WALKING TOWARD THE DESTINATION. THIS WALK SHED CREATES A PATH OF TRAVEL. WE DON'T WALK IN A STRAIGHT LINE

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THIS PARTICULAR SITE HAS SOME PROS AND HAS SOME CONS AS DO THEY ALL. SITE NUMBER TWO IS, I BELIEVE, WHAT YOU ALL CALL THE JC PENNEY LOT.

A CITY-OWNED PARCEL. LITTLE LESS OF A LEVEL OF SERVICE TO KING'S LANDING AND A BETTER SERVICE LEVEL FOR THE DOWNTOWN CORE. THE DETRIMENT HERE WILL BE LOSS POTENTIAL AS A USED PARCEL MAY HAVE A BETTER OR HIGHER USE FOR THE LAND THAN A PARKING GAR RAJ. CURRENTLY IT IS A PARKING LOT SO IT IS AVAILABLE, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BETTER USE.

BETTER OTHER BETTER USES. AND FINALLY SITE 3 IS, AGAIN, CLOSE TO KING'S LANDING IN ZONE 2 ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THIS LAND AS WELL; HOWEVER, OF THE THREE SITES, THIS MIGHT BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE ZONE 1 AREA IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY IS WANTING TO GO. MIGHT HELP BRIDGE A LITTLE BIT OF GAP BETWEEN THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN AND SEAWAY DRIVE IF THAT IS THE FUTURE PLAN FOR THE CITY.

WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN ALL SIDE BY SIDE TO GIVE A WALK SHED MAP.

KING'S LANDING WILL NOT HAVE SUBSTANTIAL PARKING.

IT WILL NEED TO BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH THE EXISTING PARKING AVAILABLE OR IF YOU DECIDE TO ADD INVENTORY, THESE ARE THE INTIAL OPTIONS WE ARE PROPOSING.

AGAIN NOT A COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE BUT MORE OF A VISUAL LITMUS TEST. OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER AND THE LAST SLIDE OF THE PRESENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, GARAGES ARE EXPENSIVE. AND YOU ALTHOUGH, WE GOT TO FIND WAYS TO -- TO GET THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT SOMEHOW, SOME WAY. OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER AND ADD TO THAT IS TO ADD MULTIMODAL ACCESS WHETHER SCOOTERS, BIKES, ETC., SHUTTLES AND TROLLEYS. I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT AND GOING TO START TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

A GOOD POSITIVE MOVE. HELPS MAKE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE WALKING DISTANCE A LITTLE MORE PALABLE FOR CONSTITUENTS.

MAKING THE WALKABILITY FLOW SO AS SOMEONE WHO IS WALKING FROM POINT A TO POINT B. NOT TO HAVE EMPTY STREET SPACES BUT TO HAVE MORE ON-GRADE. IF NEW FACILITIES ARE BEING BUILT TO PUT RETAIL TO BREAK UP THE MONOTONY WHAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A LONGER DISTANCE. OF COURSE WE MENTIONED THAT IF AN OPPORTUNITY DOES ARISE TO BUILD A PARKING FACILITY, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO HELP TAKE THE LOAD OFF OF THE CITY RESOURCES.

ENGAGE PRIVATE PARTNERS IN THIS. IT HAS ITS PROS AND CONS.

AND WHAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE YOU DON'T HAVE A PAID PARKING PROGRAM THAT LIMIT THE PRIVATE OPERATORS FROM BEING ABLE TO CHARGE AS WELL AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO DISCUSS AS A GROUP THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.

I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT US TO GO IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

. >>MAYOR: ANY QUESTIONS?

COMPASSION%? >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: YES, I DO. -- COMMISSION SEEMS TO BE A CONSTANTLY EVOLVING ISSUE. BY THE TIME WE GET INFORMATION, THINGS HAVE CHANGED. BUT I THINK WITH YOUR REPORT, IT MAKES IT PRETTY EASY TO BE ABLE TO PLUG IN NEW NUMBERS AND NEW CONCEPTS. AND NEW ASSETS TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE WE GOT TO GO AND WHAT OUR FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

SO I HAVE A THOUGHT IN MY MIND. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT PAID PARKING BEFORE. I KNOW THE CITY IS CONSIDERING IT. IT HAS BEEN A RECOMMENDATION OF WALK OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT BUILDING

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MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, WOULD YOU VENTURE INTO THE PAID -- THE PAID PARKING WHERE IT IS MARKET-BASED PRICING FOR PARKING BEFORE YOU ENTER INTO A CAPITAL INVESTMENT. I GOT ONLINE AND I AM LOOKING AT WHAT A PARKING GARAGE COSTS. I HAVE NO IDEA AND I'M SURE THE INFORMATION IS ITU STALE BUT SOMEWHERE STARTING AT $10 MILLION AND GOING UP. THAT GAVE ME A LITTLE STICKER SHOCK. I AM WONDERING, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, WOULD YOU START WITH A MARKET-BASED PROGRAM BEFORE YOU GO INTO EVEN LOOKING AT A P-3 TO BUILD A PARKING

FACILITY? >> SO, YES.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE -- NUMBER ONE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE -- $10 MILLION. MAYBE A SIMPLER WAY IS $25,000 PER SPACE. AND SO THAT COULD BE 10, COULD BE FIVE, DEPENDS ON HOW BIG OF A FACILITY YOU WANT TO BUILD AND DEPENDS ON THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND THAT YOU ARE ANTICIPATING.

YOU KEEP IN MIND ON THE LOW END -- THESE NUMBERS WERE JUST UPDATE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. 25,000 IS PROBABLY A SAFE BET.

AND THE MORE ORNATE YOU MAKE IT AS FAR AS ART AND FACADE AND RETAIL, ETC., THOSE PRICES CAN GO UP.

I WOULD AGREE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF -- IF INTENT TO DO PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO HAVE SOME PAID PARKING PROGRAM IN PLACE PRIOR TO THAT. IF YOU WERE TO ASK -- A PRIVATE ENTITY TO HELP YOU BUILD A PARKING DECK, THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IS TO CHARGE FOR PARKING. IF THEY ARE THE ONLY IF A FACILITY IN TOWN THAT IS CHARGING FOR PARKING THEY WILL BE THE LEAST OCCUPIED FACILITY IN TOWN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THE BEST PRACTICE OF ON-STREET PARKING IS THE MOST COVETED PARKING BECAUSE IT IS IN FRONT OF THE STOREFRONTS.

SHOULD HAVE A HIGHEST PREMIUM IN A MARKET-BASED SYSTEM.

AND FURTHER DISTANCES AND INSIDE PARKING DECKS AND PARKING LOTS SHOULD BE THE NEXT TIER. IN ORDER FOR A PRIVATE OPERATOR TO CHARGE FOR PARK IN A PARKING DECK, THEY WILL NEED SOME MECHANICISM TO ENCOURAGE IN THERE.

IF ON-STREET PARKING COSTS A DOLLAR AND $.50 TO PARK IN THE DECK, THE INCENTIVE TO USE THAT FACILITY AND CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE. WE HAVE SEEN AREAS I HAVE TEEN IN MY EXPERIENCE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE NOT TRIED ON-STREET PARKING BUT TRIED TO PARK -- CHARGE FOR PARK IN A PARKING DECK BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BECAUSE OF BONDS AND CONVENANCE AND THOSE FACILITIES ARE UTILIZED. THEY ARE ONLY USED IF ON-STREET IS FULL. THAT WILL CREATE THE PERCEPTION OF A PARKING PROBLEM IF ANYTHING.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

ONE LAST QUESTION AND I AM ON THAT PARKING COMMITTEE AS YOU WELL KNOW, TOM. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ONCE WE GET SOMETHING NAILED DOWN, SOMETHING CHANGES.

I KNOW YOU TOOK -- YOUR TASK WAS TO LOOK AT IT FROM A 10,000-FOOT VIEW. THE -- IN OUR COMMITTEE, WE LIKE LOOKING AT IT FROM STREET LEVEL AND KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING CURRENTLY AND SEEMS TO BE EVOLVING ALSO.

IN THIS PARKING DEMAND, IF SOMETHING CHANGES, ALL BETS ARE OFF AND ALL THESE FIGURES ARE AND DEMAND, PLUSES AND NEGATIVE ALL CHANGE. HOW CAN WE GO ABOUT DEALING WITH THAT FOR MAT. LET'S SAY -- WELL,LL ONE RECENT HAPPENED WITH -- YOU KNOW, AFTER COVID, THE COURTS CLOSED DOWN.

NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP. JURORS ARE NOW JAMMED INTO FORT PIERCE AT A RATE OF LET'S SAY 100 MORE PER WEEK AND IT IS AFFECTING THE DYNAMIC THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS EVER GOING TO SUBSIDE OR GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS PRIOR TO ALL THIS.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO MANAGE ALL THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND THAT IS WHEN I AM TALKING ABOUT THE DYNAMIC CHANGES.

SO HOW SHOULD WE APPROACH THIS. WHAT SHOULD WE DO IN THE CASE

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>> WELL, IF IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT DATA, THEN A PERIODIC ANALYSIS ONCE EVERY YEAR, ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU ARE ANTICIPATED.

FOR THE COURT SYSTEM, THAT WAS KIND OF AN UNPLANNED THING.

IT JUST HAPPENED AND NOW YOU ARE DEALING WITH IT.

AND SO OPERATIONALLY, THAT IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING IF YOU TONIGHT FEEL LIKE IT IS GOING AWAY AND THE COURTS ARE NOT TELLING YOU IT IS GOING AWAY, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER.

IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME -- MEGAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR THE SHARED PARKING MODEL TO CATCH UP WITH THAT.

WE ARE NOT SUPER -- THOSE ADDITIONS COME OUT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. I THINK WE HAD THE MOST RECENT UPDATE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO -- TO THOSE RATIOS UNTIL IT IS A PROVEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW LIFE IS FROM HERE ON OUT.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY, MEGAN? >> YES, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT OUR RATIOS ASSUME A PRECOVID CONDITIONS.

IF YOU TALK ABOUT JURORS COMING BACK OUR SURPLUSES ASSUME THERE ARE SOME JURORS IN THOSE NUMBERS.

ALSO POINT OUT -- SORRY, JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF -- BUT, AGAIN, I WAS GOING TO SAY IRONICALLY, THE UPDATE TO THE SHARED PARKING MODEL CAME OUT IN MARCH OF 2020 AS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING CHANGED. AND WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING HOW THE -- HOW THE POST PANDEMIC PARKING NEEDS ARE CHANGING FOR OFFICE SPACE, FOR RESIDENTIAL, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF

SPEAK TO THOSE AS WE GO FORWARD. >> RIGHT.

YEAH, SO THAT IS MORE THAN THE CORE SYSTEM.

IT IS OFFICE WORK HAS CHANGED. YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL -- PEOPLE STAYING HOME DURING WORKING HOURS AND THAT.

ALL THINGS WILL BE CHANGING. I WOULD SAY THIS.

IF YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE SERIOUS OF BUILDING A PARKING STRUCTURE, IT MIGHT PAY TO HAVE A -- A TRUE UTILIZATION STUDY DONE WHERE WE CAN DO VEHICLE COUNTS.

YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL UTILIZATION OF THE PARK THE STREETS, THE INVENTORY BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DECISION TO ERECT A SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS STRUCTURE. AGAIN, OUR GOAL WAS THAT 10,000-FOOT VIEW TO SAY, HEY. AS IMPORTANT AND URGENT, ETC., I WOULD SAY FROM OUR NUMBERS, PROBABLY NOT JUST YET AT THIS POINT. BUT UTILIZATION STUDY IF AND WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, IT IS SIGNIFICANT AND TAKES TIME.

PROBABLY NOT YOU KNOW, INEXPENSIVE IS WHAT I MEAN TO SAY, WHETHER IT IS US OR ANY OTHER FIRM, BECAUSE IT IS MAN ON THE STREET, WOMAN ON THE STREET COUNTING CARS AND -- AT A REGULAR RATE. SO THAT -- THAT HELPS GIVE YOU THAT REAL BASELINE, A TRUE AUTHENTIC BASE LLINE BASED ON TODAY. WE NEED TO CONSIDER -- AND MEGAN DID THE BEST SHE COULD WITH -- WE HAVE LAND USES ARE THEY FULLY OCCUPIED AT THE MOMENT? EMPTY STOREFRONTS, EMPTY UPSTAIR SUITES THAT WILL AFFECT THE PARKING -- THE PARKING AUTHORIZATION. AND THAT INFORMATION IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE STREET.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THANK YO

YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYBODY ELSE?

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> EVEN CHANGES HOW YOU OPERATE THE PARKING. THERE IS A POINT WHERE YOU STOP OPERATING THE PARKING AND YOU HAVE TO MANAGE THE PARKING AND THIS CONTINUES THE DYNAMICS OF HOW MUCH PARKING YOU NEED AND

WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. APPRECIATE THAT.

I LIKE THE ANALYSIS THAT IS HERE.

I LIKE THE DATA THAT IS BEING DRIVEN.

A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. ZONE 2 HAD THE LEAST SUPPLY IN TODAY'S NUMBERS, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.

AND I LIKE THE STRATEGY OF LOOKING AT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ADD AS A CITY EVALUATING THAT. WE HAVE DONE THAT AS A COMMISSION. AND LOOKING AT STRATEGIES TO FURTHER CREATE THE SURPLUS OF PARKING WITHIN THE ZONE TWO.

OBVIOUSLY IT MAKES SENSE TO BE IN THE MIDDLE AND IT IS EASY TO

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I WASN'T OVERLY EXCITED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT SITE NUMBER 3. JUST FROM AN ECONOMIC POINT OF VIEW JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ALREADY OWNS THE LAND ON THE WATERFRONT, AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY TO DEVELOP THE LAND FOR ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

MAYBE PARKING IS IT. I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD GAIN MORE IN THAT LITTLE AREA RIGHT THERE IF IT WAS DEVELOPED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I AM NOT SAYING WE COULDN'T HAVE THE PARKING GARAGE. A PARKING STRUCTURE BEHIND THAT.

BECAUSE THAT IS RIGHT THERE AT BACCHUS AVENUE, YES.

SO WHEN YOU DIVE DEEPER INTO THE AALYTICS OF GOING VERTICAL WITH A STRUCTURE AND YOU DO YOUR INVENTORY AND YOU DO THE EVALUATION, WHAT ARE THE ECONOMIC EVALUATIONS THAT COME OUT OF A REPORT LIKE THAT. WHAT ARE THE ECONOMIC FACTORS AND HOW DO YOU REPORT THAT INFORMATION.

WHEN YOU DIVE -- IF WE WERE TO HIRE YOU TO DIVE DEEPER INTO

BUILDING A PARKING GARAGE? >> SO, I GUESS -- YEAH, I WOULD LOOK AT THAT. WE WOULD DO A SEASONABILITY ANALYSIS. AND WHAT -- MAYBE NOT THE GARAGE MAKES SENSE, BUT WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM BUILDING A GARAGE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE IF IT MAKES SENSE.

OTHER THINGS THAN SHOWING A PROFIT.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO FROM A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS WOULD BE JUST TO -- BASICALLY PRO FORMA FOR WHAT IT WILL COST TO OPERATE A FACILITY VERSUS WHAT KIND OF REVENUES YOU CAN EXPECT TO COLLECT FROM THEM. AND SO, THE REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE BASED ON ANALYSIS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT MEGAN HAS DONE HERE WITH -- WITH THE ENTIRE DISTRICT OR ZONE.

WE DO IT FOR THE FACILITY. FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT -- WHAT THAT -- WHAT THE POTENTIAL REVENUE COULD BE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PAID PARKING PROGRAM NO REVENUE TO BE GAINED.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO -- YOU CAN GET THE ANALYSIS NOT ONLY WHAT CAPITAL COSTS OF PARKING DECK MIGHT BE, BUT HERE ARE THE ONGOING, YOU KNOW, COSTS FOR MAINTENANCE, ELECTRICITY, ELEVATORS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO ON, PLUS ANY RESERVES THAT YOU WOULD -- THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU PUT ASIDE FOR FUTURE STRUCTURAL REPAIRS. ANY PARKING DECK, ESPECIALLY HERE IN FLORIDA, WILL GO TO. AND I SHOULDN'T SAY ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA, BUT FLORIDA HOLDS UP BETTER THAN A LOT OF AREAS.

AND CONCRETE. CRACKS OVER TIME.

SALT AIR. ALL THESE THINGS THAT EFFECT IT.

IF YOU DON'T PUT A RESERVE AWAY, THAT WILL AFFECT YOUR -- THE FUTURE EXPENSES DOWN THE ROAD. AND WE WILL PERFORM THAT FOR YOU. IN ADDITION, WE CAN ALSO DO THE LAYOUTS AND WHAT NOT. A LOT FIRMS THAT CAN DO THAT.

SO IT IS A MATTER OF WHAT MAKES SENSE IN THE FOOTPRINT WHERE YOU DECIDE. HOW CAN YOU MAXIMIZE THE SPACE IN A REASONABLE, FUNCTIONAL MA MANNER. THERE IS PRACTICAL AND AESTHETICS. RIGHT TURN AREA, SPACES, ETC.

MAKE IT A FRIENDLY GARAGE FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE THROUGH AND THE ACTUAL COSTS AND POTENTIALLY ANY REVENUES IF -- IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PARKING PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL ALLOW PAID

PARKING. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: IC. THAT MAKES SENSE SENSE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE CLEAR ON THE UNDERSTANDING TO DIVE TEAMER INTO THE ANALYSIS. LET'S SEE IF I GO TO.

AND DRIVING INTO THE SITE SPECIFICALLY.

AND PARKING ANALYTICS. ZONE THREE IS THE MOST INTENSE FOR DEMAND AMONGST THE THREE OF THEM AND OF THE OPERATION WITHIN THE ZONE. IF YOU GO TO THE MAP WITH ALL THREE SITES ON IT. RIGHT THERE.

I GUESS YOU COULD ARGUE EVERY POINT OF THESE, SITE ONE MAKES SENSE BECAUSE PROXIMITY TO KING'S LANDING AND THINKING OF COMMISSIONERS ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

ONE OF THE AIR WHYS ALONG THE THREE ZONES.

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YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR BEHIND ALONG DEPOT DRIVE OR LOOKING AT

CANING'S LANDING PARTNER AGAIN. >> AND NEXT TO THE RAILROAD AND THE CITY OWNS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE THE SWATH FROM THE SOUTH TO MARINA WAY. MR. MIMS, A PARCEL FROM MARINA

WAY. >> EIGHT FOOT WIDE.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALKS ARE NICE.

THAT WORKS. YEAH, I JUST -- YOU KNOW.

I LIKE THE SITES. I LIKE THE EVALUATION PROCESS.

WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD INVENTORY AND JUMP UP AND DOWN AND YELL FROM THE ROOFTOP WHAT NOBODY LISTENS TO.

IF YOU WANT TO WALK A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE TO TALK TO OUR FOLKS AND PARTNERS AT ST. LUCIE COUNTY ABOUT THE OPERATIONS AND THE COURTS AND JUST GENERAL COUNTY OERATIONS WITH THEIR RELATIVELY SMALL FOOTPRINT IN A PARKING GARAGE STRUCTURE. I CAN DO THE BONUSES.

THANK YOU FOR THE TEAM AT WALKER TO SHOWING ME THE HEAT AND HOT SPOTS OF DIFFERENT SITE LOCATIONS.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE AND I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION ALSO. BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY WITHIN KING'S LANDING, RIGHT. THEY OFFERED FOR US TO PARTNER WITH THEM WHICH IS NOT ON THIS SPECIFIC REPORT BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE SCREEN ONCE KING'S LANDING IS BUILT.

IT GOES TO A RED NUMBER. I DON'T LIKE RED NUMBERS.

[LAUGHTER] WAS IT 99 -- 191 -- 191.

OKAY. SO EACH -- DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS? HE DID OFFER -- IF WE BUILT TWO MORE FLOORS IT WOULD BE # 0 PER FLOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE IS THAT -- 70 PER FLOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I DON'T WANT TO SAY SPECIFICALLY BUT

MAYBE MR. BRODERICK KNOWS. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: TOM, DID YOU HEAR THAT NUMBER AT ANY TIME, IF WE WERE TO PARTNER

WITH THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT? >> I DON'T KNOW.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: SOMETHING WE SHOULD SHARE WITH YOU. MR. BRODERICK SAID FROM THE AUDIENCE, 85 PER FLOOR. WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO MAKING THAT NUMBER CHANGE COLOR WITH A COUPLE EXTRA FLOORS AND $25,000

PER SPACE. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I ALREADY KNOW YOU DID THE MATH ON THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: OF COURSE I DID.

THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. >>MAYOR: COMMISSIONER GAINES, DO

YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: JUST REAL QUICK. I AM SITTING HERE AND LISTENING TO THE TEA LEAVES GETTING READY TO BE BREWED.

WE ARE TALKING OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

SOMEWHERE WITHIN ZONES -- THESE ZONES 1, 2 AND 3.

AND I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. I AM JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBR AND IT COULD BE ME IS OUR PARKING GARAGE FILLED DURING THESE PEAK TIMES. FILLED DURING THESE WEEKEND TIMES. FILLED DURING THESE EVENT TIMES THE PARKING GARAGE HERE. BECAUSE IF NOT, AND -- THAT IS LESS THAN 100 FEET FROM MOST OF THE STUFF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FROM DOWNTOWN IS A STRAIGHT SHOT.

WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK.

AND PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY PUTTING MONEY INTO ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE. AND WE HAVE ONE NOW THAT IS NOT UTILIZED LIKE WE WANT IT TO BE UTILIZED.

SO MAYBE WE NEED TO STOP AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT ONE UTILIZED FIRST BEFORE WE LOOK AT THESE OTHER AREAS.

GREAT REPORT. I AM JUST SITTING HERE THINKING,

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>>MAYOR: YOU LOOKED THIS WAY. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I CAN FEEL IT AND I AM NOT GOING TO LOOK AT MY CITY ATTORNEY OVER THERE OR THE CITY ENGINEER LOOKING AT ME TOO.

BUT I AM SAYING IF THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING AND WE ARE ABOUT TO PUT SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT IS GOING TO CREATE THE RED NUMBER THAT MY COLLEAGUE SAYS HE DOESN'T LIKE LOOKING AT, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO SPEND OUR MONEY FROM THE CITY.

BECAUSE $10 MILLION -- COMMISSIONER PERONA, $10 MILLION, USING YOUR FIGURE, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PARKING GARAGE WHEN I SEE ONE WE ALREADY HAVE SITTING NOT BEING USED.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY TO SPEND $10 MILLION OF -- OF THE CITY MONEY.

NOW ONE THING THAT I LIKED ABOUT THE REPORT.

WITH WE DO GO IN WITH A PARTNERSHIP OF ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND WE PUT A PARKING GARAGE.

AND THAT PARTNER SP TRYING TO RECOUP HIS MONEY AND CHARGE, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A JAM AROUND CITY HALL OF CARS DRIVING, DRIVING, TRYING TO FIND A SPOT ON THE ROAD BEFORE THEY HAVE TO GO INTO THEIR -- GO INTO THEIR PARKING. I HAVE SEEN IT IN OTHER CITIES.

I HAVE DONE IT. YOU KNOW, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GO AROUND A COUPLE OF TIMES TO CATCH SOMEBODY PACKING OUT.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. UNLESS YOU ARE LATE FOR A RESERVATION OR SOMETHING. YOU ARE GOING TO PARK.

MAYBE IF WE DO THAT, WE -- THEY PARTNER WITH THE BUSINESSES AND LET THE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, TRY TO VALIDATE THE PARKING LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER CITIES. BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT MEANS IS YOUR APPETIZER GOES FROM $7 TO YOU KNOW, $10.99.

THAT IS HOW IT WORKS. SO I AM JUST -- I WANT TO PUT -- NOT A STOP SIGN, BUT A CAUTION SIGN UP SAYING BEFORE WE GO GUNG-HO -- I KNOW IT IS NEEDED BUT BEFORE WE GUNG-HO AND SPEND ALL THE MONEY FROM THE CITY FOR ANOTHER PARKING BUILDING, LET'S SEE WE CAN UTILIZE THE ONE WE ALREADY HAVE.

BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE ONE THAT IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY DOWN BY THE COURTHOUSE -- THAT IS THREE STORIES -- I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG. I THINK IT IS THREE STORY IS AS

SOON AS. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: DOES ANYONE WHO IS COMING TO DOWNTOWN ON THE WEEKENDS USE THAT -- USE THAT PARKING GARAGE AND THEN WALK STRAIGHT DOWN -- STRAIGHT DOWN. YOU KNOW, YOU WALK PAST COURTHOUSE. YOU WALK PAST SUNRISE THEATRE AND YOU ARE RIGHT THERE. ANYBODY PARK THERE? IS IT CLOSED DURING THE WEEKEND. SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER PARKING SPACE THERE. AND IF WE ARE GOING TO GET TROLLEYS. SLOW DOWN.

I SAW THAT AGAIN. AND I AM SEEING THINGS THAT -- BEFORE WE SPEND THIS MONEY. BEFORE WE SAY YES, LET'S -- LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK AND REALLY LOOK AT THIS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, MAYOR. .

>>MAYOR: I THINK -- OUR CURRENT PARKING, A RAJ COST $11 MILLION TO BUILD. AND THAT WAS HOW MANY YEARS AGO, MR. MIMMS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER GET, SEE THAT PRICE AGAIN FOR THAT SIZE STRUCTURE, RIGHT.

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SEE HOW UTILIZED IT IS? >> NO, WE DIDN'T DO ANY UTILIZATION STUDIES. ALL I CAN SAY ANECDOTELY WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF STUDIES WE DID WITH YOU ALL.

IT IS NOT BEING USED AT ITS CAPACITY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: JULY 4. JULY 4 AND THE CHRISTMAS PARADE ARE THE TIMES IT IS USED TO CAPACITY AS FAR AS I KNOW.

THAT IS ANECDOTELY TOO. YEAH.

AND -- RIGHT NOW THE SITES THAT YOU IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL FOR GARAGES, TWO OF THOSE ARE ALREADY CITY PARKING AREA AND ONE IS BEHIND THE PP COBB, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. >>MAYOR: I THINK THAT ONE PEOPLE PARK THERE AND GET TOWED RIGHT NOW.

IT IS SO ATTRACTIVE BEHIND THE COBB BUILDING.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: SITE THREE -- WE DON'T OWN IT.

WE LEASE IT. .

>>MAYOR: WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

OKAY. SO I THINK -- MR. GAINES -- COMMISSIONER GAINES, I AM WITH YOU.

I THINK WE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO THE.

DO WE KNOW IF KING'S LANDING WILL CHARGE FOR THEIR GARAGE? DO WE KNOW THAT? AS TOM SAID, UNLESS WE HAVE PAID PARKING OTHER PLACES AND HAVE A PARKING GARAGE THAT CHARGES.

THAT DOESN'T WORK. THAT DOESN'T WORK IN OTHER PLACES IF WE HAVE A P-3. OUR PARTNERS WHOEVER IS GOING TO BUILD IT NEEDS TO MAKE MONEY. WE ARE NOT A CITY -- OUR OLD-TIME RESIDENTS ARE NOT USED TO A PARKING STRUCTURE.

THEY WOULD RATHER PARK ON THE STREET.

THEY WILL HAVE TO GET USED TO IT.

I AM WITH YOU COMMISSIONER GAINES, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COUNTY PARKING LOT IS USED ON THE WEEKENDS.

I FORGET TO PARK THERE. IN FACT, I DON'T THINK I EVER HAVE BEEN IN THAT GARAGE. SO ANYWAY, IT'S -- YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE FURTHEST POINT AWAY FROM THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN. IT IS USED IF A SUNRISE EVENT IT IS USED. YOU CAN PARK THERE ON THE

WEEKENDS. >>MAYOR: IT IS USED.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: 180-PLUS SPACES.

187, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. >> AGAIN, I WILL POINT OUT THAT WE ARE NOT MORE PARKING. THE FIRST MOVE IS TO SHARE PARKING OR REALLOCATE PARK WITH WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: JUST A FIND -- SEEMS LIKE WE ARE MOVING IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT THIS PARKING STUDY TO ME IS USED AS TOOL TO TELL YOU WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. ZONE 1, # AND #, THE COMMERCIAL AND GOVERNMENT EXPANSIONS, SERVICE EXPANSIONS.

WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH PARKING RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE TH THAT.

IF WE ARE GOING TO BE BE A DYNAMIC GOVERNMENT WE NEED TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF THIS. I THINK THE REAL THING TO DO IS TO TAKE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

GO AHEAD AND DEVELOPMENT A FORECAST ON WHAT THIS INFILL IS GOING TO CREATE AS FAR AS A DEMAND AND GET AHEAD OF IT AND IDENTIFY THE SPOTS WHERE WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND SO WE ARE NOT SPENDING $4 MILLION OR $5 MILLION ON A PARCEL BEFORE WE SPEND OUR $10 MILLION TO $12 MILLION.

IF WE CAN GET OUT AHEAD OF IT. WE WILL STAY -- WE WILL ACT VERY PRUDENT TO START TO FILL THAT DEMAND.

YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE FILLING THE CHAMBER SAYING I AM A RETAIL BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE AND PEOPLE CAN'T GET HERE.

YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. YOU DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO COME HERE AND SAY HEY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM TO USE THIS AS A TOOL

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>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: COMMISSIONER PERONA, THAT IS WHY I AGREE WITH YOU. USE A RED LIGHT NOT A YELLOW LIGHT. SLOW DOWN.

I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS COMING.

I UNDERSTAND THESE NUMBERS NOW. I KNOW WHAT KING'S LANDING WILL BRING IN. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

BUT AS A COMMISSION AND FROM SITTING HERE, WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE GET EXCITED BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IS COMING AND WE HAVE TO SLOW IT DOWN SOMETIMES JUST TO MAKE -- I WANT TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS. LIKE I SAID, IF I HAVE A MAJOR PROJECT BY PUTTING A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND, IF WE NEED TO SIT DOWN TO GET RID OF THAT RED NUMBER, SOMETHING WE WILL WANT TO DO BECAUSE STILL BEING PROACTIVE BECAUSE IT IS COMING.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT -- THAT IS BEFORE IT GETS OUT OF HAND FURTHER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST SAID IS WE NEED TO INVITE THE COUNTY.

I AM TIRED OF READING ALL THESE REPORTS AND, YOU KNOW, ASKING THE CITY MANAGER AND GO AND SIT DOWN WITH THE COUNTY -- OR SOMEONE TO SIT DOWN CAN WITH THE COUNTY.

WE NEED TO INVITE THE COUNTY HERE OR IF THE RULES ARE ALLOWED, WE NEED TO GO OVER THERE.

WE NEED A MEET WITH THE COUNTY, BECAUSE IT IS UNFAIR FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT WE NEED TO COME AND DEMAND THAT WE NEED GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ALL THIS AND ALL THAT AND THEY WON'T SIT DOWN WITH US TO DISCUSS THIS -- THIS PARKING ISSUE. IT IS OUR ISSUE.

THEIRS TOO. WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM.

AND IF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IF YOU ARE LISTENING, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, IF IT IS PROPER, MADAM ATTORNEY, WE NEED TO GET DOWN. WE ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THIS COUNTY AND GET DOWN THERE AND GET THIS DONE BECAUSE BEING PROACTIVE, WE WILL BE READY. I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MADAM MAYOR, ONE OTHER THING THAT I CONSTANTLY LOOK AT TOO. WE TALK OF PARKING DEMAND AND PARKING AVAILABILITY, BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

ZONE ONE, TWO AND THREE. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ONE ZONE -- ONE, TWO AND THREE WE HAVE THE INDIAN RIVER ON ONE SIDE.

A MAJOR RAILROAD AND A MAYOR HIGHWAY TO THE WEST.

WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO WE ARE BOXED IN. THAT -- THOSE ZONES RIGHT THERE UNLESS WE WILL BE SHUTTLING PEOPLE IN AND OUT, THOSE ZONES RIGHT THERE, ALL YOUR PARKING SOLUTIONS HAVE TO BE WITHIN -- WITHIN THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE AND LITTLE RECTANGLE RIGHT THERE.

THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF A INDIGESTION.

YOU CAN'T GO AND GET FARMLAND AND BUILD A PARKING GARAGE.

WE DON'T HAVE IT. EVERY ONE OF THOSE SPOTS RIGHT THERE -- THAT IS WHY WE TASKED WALKER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SAYING FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU OWN ONE AND THE OTHER TWO, YOU MAY HAVE TO THINK OF WORKING A 3P WITH OR MAKE A PURCHASE AND THAT IS GOING FORWARD.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND ALSO.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DO A NUSHGS-3 WITH A ONE WAY OUT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: ONE OTHER FACTOR.

YOU BRING IN THE COUNTY AND A QUOTE-UNQUOTE DEVELOPER.

WE ARE A DEVELOPER WHEN WE ARE BUILDING THINGS IN THE CITY.

THE COUNTY IS DEVELOPER WITH ANY ENTITY.

WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM AT ANY POINT.

IF THEIR OPERATIONS ARE EXPANDING AND THE IDEA IS TO THE DOWNTOWN, WE PARTNER WITH - THEM.

IN 2005 AND 2006. I LOOKED AT PRINTS SUBMITTED AND ADD TWO FLOORS TO THE EXISTING COUNTY PARKING GARAGE.

BUT WHEN -- AND NO OFFENSE TO KEVIN AND THE PLANNING GROUP BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE, BUT AT THE TIME THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GOT A HOLD OF IT AND SAID WE WANT TO YOU DO THIS, THIS AND THIS. AND HALF MILLION TO THE PARKING GARAGE AND COUNTY IS LIKE, NEVER MIND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS EXPENSIVE AND A LOT OF MONEY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET

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AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE CREATING FUNCTIONALITY WITHIN PARKING AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN OUR -- IN OUR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US ALONG AND MAKE THIS A VIABLE OPTION.

AS A COMMISSION, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR THOSE P-3 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE DEVELOPER -- THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHEN THEY ARE HERE TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU.

KING'S LANDING THREW ONE OUT. NOT MY FAVORITE OPTION, BUT IT IS AN OPTION AND ITS A DISCUSSION AND A REAL THING AND REAL NUMBER. AND CONCRETE IS BEING PLACED IN THE GROUND. MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO INVEST WHEN THE STEEL AND CONCRETE ARE BEING PLACED IN THE GROUND. AND ODDLY ENOUGH, MAYOR, $11 MILLION IS 465 SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, $23.6 -- SORRY, 23,600 PER SPACE. .

>>MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THE MATH.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: BACK IN NOSE DAYS.

YOU CAN TELL THE ECONOMICS. BUILT DURING A 25 TO 30,000.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: YOU HAVE TO MINUS THAT OUT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: 20 MILLION -- $20,000 PER SPACE MAYBE. ANYWAY HERE IS THE RECTANGLE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ARE WE READY TO HEAR FROM THE PARKING COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN. AUDRIA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MR. BRODERICK, WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. I AM SURE YOU ARE READY FOR MORE PARKING FUN FACTS. TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP. THE COUNTY PARKING GARAGE IS OPEN ON WEEKENDS. WE CLARIFIED THAT WITH THEIR FACILITIES MANAGER. THE HD KING'S SITE IS --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: BRING YOUR MIC A LITTLE CLOSER.

85 SPACES PER FLOOR. THAT IS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE TIME. THE OTHER MATTER OF NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER GAINES BROUGHT UP AND THE PARKING COMMITTEE WAS HAMMER ON THIS ISSUE OR OUT ON RFP OR WAS BEING DISCUSSED WITH A WAS A COUNTING SYSTEM FOR THE CITY GARAGE AND THE SAME SYSTEM FOR THE COUNTY. THIS WILL TRACK CAPACITY, USE, ALL THE ANALYTICS WE CAN THINK OF AND IN ADDITION TO THAT READER BOARDS IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE SAYING 100 SPACES AVAIL TO MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT. WE THOUGHT THE DATA THAT CAN BE ACCUMULATED FROM THE USE OF THAT SYSTEM WILL BE INVALUABLE MAKING DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD AS TO WHAT IS THE CAPACITY.

EVERYBODY IS LIKE WE DON'T KNOW. NOBODY HAS A CLUE SO HAVING IT SAID THAT, THE PARKING COMMITTEE HAS GENERATED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY COMMISSION.

CANDIDLY, I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEM HERE IN YOUR DISCUSSION THIS MORNING BUT THE MEMORANDUM, I WILL GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY WITH YOU THE WALKER CONSULTANT ANALYSIS LOOKED AT THE SCOPE OF WORK. KNOWN NEEDS NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERS AND THEY ARE, UPDATED PARKING NEEDS OF ST. LUIE COUNTY. I WILL COME BACK TO THESE ITEMS MOMENTARILY IF THAT IS OKAY. REGULARLY OCCURRING EVENTS LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET. MAIN STREET, OF COURSE, WITH FRIDAY EVENTS ON SPECIAL EVENTS. THE COMMISSION SHOULD REQUEST A UPDATED PARKING ANALYSIS FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY IN 30 DAYS TO CONSIDER PAIR PARKING NEEDS. CITY OF FORT PIERCE ENGAGE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION TO HELP WITH THE PARKING PROBLEM IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.

THE CITY MANAGER TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR PROPOSED PARKING SOLUTIONS WITHIN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

NOW THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AS A SIDE NOTE, THE PARKING COMMITTEE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH TO MEET WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM THE COUNTY INDIVIDUALLY ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PERSON.

THIS MEETING HAVE BEEN VERY ENLIGHTENING WITH A LIST OF RE78

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THAT NUMBER IS BEING BY A MINIMUM OF 35.

WHEN SHE ATTENDED THE MEETING HER STAFF IN HER OFFICE ALONE BY 35. UP TO A 384 PERSONNEL.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE JURORS. THE JUROR POOL AT THE TIME THAT THIS REPORT WAS CONDUCTED WAS 150 TO 200 PERSONS PER DAY MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY. THAT HAS MORPHED INTO 250 TO 300 PERSONS PER DAY RUNNING THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE BUSINESS WEEK.

ADDING ALL THAT TOGETHER, DRIVES THE COUNTY PARKING NEED WELL IN EXCESS OF 600 SPACES POTENTIALLY.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE ARE REQUESTING -- THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS BURIED IN THE NUANCES OF THE REPORT AND TRYING TO GAIN CLARITY FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WHAT WE NEED TO ADD OR -- AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS SAYING, HOW FAR IN THE RED ARE WE.

WE REALLY NEED TO DETERMINE THAT FINAL NUMBER.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE SPECULATED ON SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY REPORT IS THAT THE COUNTY IS THE LARCHER CONSUMER OF PARKING IN DOWNTOWN BY A MULTIPLE AND KEEPING IN MIND 600 SPACES IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN A CONTEXT AND YOU HAVE SEEN A NUMBERS. THE CITY CONTROLS THROUGH LEASED MARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN QUARTER SOUTH OF CITRUS, EAST TO WEST # 200 SPACES. INCORPORATING IS THE RECENT ADDITIONS OF WHAT ARE THE SOUTH OF THE RENAISSANCE, EXPANSION OF THE LOT ON INDIAN RIVER. ON THE NEW PERMANENT PARKING ON BACCHUS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND SOME OF THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

YOU SEE THE EMBALANCE AND THE ABILITY TO DRILL INTO THE NUMBERS IN FINITE DETAIL WHAT THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO GET A CONSENSUS WHAT THE COUNTY'S NEEDS ARE NOW, WHAT THEY ARE PROJECTING OVER THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AS FAR AS WHAT THEY CAN PROJECT.

WE KNOW THE NUMBERS WE ARE OPERATED WITH CURRENTLY ARE ANTIQUATED. WE ADD INTO THE MIX THE KING'S LANDING AND DEFINITION OF OWN PARKING ANALYSIS ON A STATIC IS 450 PARKING SPACES SHORT. THEY ARE OFFERING 300 AND INTERNAL ANALYSIS THEY NEED 750. WE CAN MOVE THESE NUMBERS AROUND THE BOARD ALL DAY LONG TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT ANALYSIS AND, ETC.; HOWEVER, THESE TWO ITEMS HAVE AN IMMEDIATE.

IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR. WE ARE PUSHING TO GET INFORMATION INTO THE CITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER INTO THE ANALYTICAL FLOW THAT THE COMMITTEE IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE MORE DEFINITIVE DETERMINATIONS TO PROVIDE TO YOU FOLKS IN MAKING THE ULTIMATE DECISIONS AS TO WHERE, WHEN, AND HOW MUCH. WITHOUT THIS INFORMATION WE ARE THROWING DARTS WITH THE LIGHTS TURNED OFF.

THE BASIC IS TO GET INFORMATION THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT OF THE CITY'S USE OF DOWNTOWN PARKING. WHAT IS THE COUNTY GOING TO BRING TO THE TABLE TO ASSIST IN RESOLVING THIS PROBLEM POTENTIALLY ADDING THE GARAGE. I BELIEVE THEY CAN ADD 60 SPACES NET PER FLOOR IF THEY ARE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL FLOORS; HOWEVER, WE DO FEEL AS A PARKING COMMITTEE, THAT THIS IS A -- IT NEEDS TO BE A GROUP EFFORT. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE SHOULD NOT BE HAVING TO PICK UP THE TAB OF 600 SPACE FOR THE COUNTY.

WE ARE PARTICIPATORY PARTNER IN THAT, BUT HAS TO BE FOR GIVEBACK. AT LEAST FROM THE COMMITTEE'S DIDN'T. THE COMMITTEE IS COMMITTEE. THESE TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS ARE WAY ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE AND WE NEED TO GET THESE INTO THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY COMMISSION OR THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO ENGAGE IN THAT DIALOGUE MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, MR. BRODERICK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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THAT IS OKAY. THIS IS A DYNAMIC DOCUMENT SO WE NEED TO ADD SOME THINGS LIKE ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET THAT WASN'T INCLUDED, RIGHT.

BUT WHEN YOU AND I SPOKE, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF AND YOU AR WHAT I LOOKED OF 9 COMMISSIONER OF WHAT WE TASK THE COMMITTEE TO DO. THEY HAD A LOT OF ENGAGING CONVERSATIONS, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT NEEDS TO COME TO US AS THE COMMISSION WHETHER INDIVIDUALLY OR COLLECTIVE GROUP. I AM OKAY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS TOO AND MR. MIMS HAVE GOT TO REACH OUT WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE, BUT WE NEED TO FURTHER REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE. THERE WAS A COURT FACILITY SPACE NEEDS STUDY THAT WAS ALSO CONDUCTED BY THE COUNTY.

AND IT SHOWED AND AROUND THE COURT COMPLEX IN ADDITION TO THE NEEDS OF THE COURT COMPLEX OVER THE NEXT FIVE, 10, 15 YEARS.

A WILL PLAY A BIG PART IN -- ALL THE DATA IS PART OF POPULATION PROJECTIONS. AND RAN A REPORT ALL THE WAY OUT HOW THEY NEEDED TO INVEST. PROBABLY TO THE TUNE IF IT STAYED ON THIS COMPLEX OVER 140 MILLION IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.

SO A BIG NUMBER. BUT ALSO TALKING ABOUT OUR COUNTY GROWING TO HALF MILLION PEOPLE OR AT LEAST 450,000 PEOPLE HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND PART OF THE CONVERSATION PIECE OF HOW THEY PARTICIPATE WITH US AND SUSTAIN THEIR OWN OPERATIONS WITHIN THE COURT -- THE COURTS THEMSELVES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT IS CONNECTIVITY.

I WAS TALKING WITHIN THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES AND FOLKS WHO JUST WORKED THERE. THEY DON'T ALWAYS GROW UP AND WORK AND GO RIGHT TO WORK FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICE FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THEY COME FROM THESE LARGER CITIES AND SAY, BY THE WAY, WHEN I WAS THE ASSISTANT WHATEVER, STATE ATTORNEY.

I HAD TO PARK IN THE PARKING BOCK THREE BLOCKS AWAY AND THE VOUCHER SAID PARK OVER HERE AND WE WILL TAKE YOU TO THE CAMPUS.

THAT IS WHAT THEY DO EVERY SINGLE DAY OR WALK TO CAMPUS TO GET TO THEIR JOB. AS YOU PROGRESSED IN RANK, YOU I FIND THOSE INTRIGUING -- - CONVERSATIONS TO BE INTRIGUING AND MAKES SENSE. NOW WE ARE BUILDING OFF-SITE AND SATELLITE FACILITIES AND OR COMBINING WITH AN EFFORT TO DO THAT. THE OTHER FUNNY PART.

NEEDS TO BE A NOTE WRITTEN DOWN. WHERE DOES THE FUNDING COME FROM THE FACILITIES? THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PART.

THE LAST TIME I HAD A CONVERSATION WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM, IT COMES FROM FINES AND FEES.

FOR INSTANCE, THEIR CAPITAL BUDGET, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

I AM DUSTING OFF SOME FILES IN MY HEAD HERE.

IT COMES FROM THINGS LIKE A SPEEDING TICKET AND IT GOES TO

THE COURT -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: FINES AND FOR

FITCHTURES, RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: PART OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET. NOT MAINTENANCE BUT CAPITAL -- WELL, PART OF IT IS MAINTENANCE TOO.

I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. THE FEES ARE BROKEN DOWN.

OUR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TOO, RIGHT.

BECAUSE IF THAT IS WHAT IS PAYING FOR THE FACILITY BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER USAGE. I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE WRITING MORE TICKETS BUT AT LEAST COLLECTING ON THOSE, RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT IS PAYING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN WHAT BRODERICK JUST SAID THE CITIZENS BEARING THE ENTIRE BURDEN, YOU KNOW.

MAJOR PLAYERS. YOU SAID A MAJOR PART OF THAT.

WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THE COUNTY -- >> BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, CITY CONTROLLED LEASED LAND OR OWNED LAND 2200 SPACES.

2250. POTENTIALLY THEY ARE AT THE NUMBER 600, BETWEEN 25% TO 30% OF ENTIRE AGGREGATE OF DOWNTOW PUBLIC PARTY. THE ISSUE -- THE PARKING COMMITTEE HAS DRILLE IN WITH WALKER FOR LOTS BEING UTILIZED.

WHILE THAT IS A GREAT SOLUTIN AND CAN BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER, IT SIMPLY DOESN'T HAPPEN. PRIVATE PARK IN DOWNTOWN IS MAINTAINED AS PRIVATE PARKING. ONE OF THE COMPONENTS IN THE STUDY IS THE PARK THE RENAISSANCE BUILDING.

WHEN DID YOU HAVE A GATE CODE TO GET IN THE RENAISSANCE BUILDING TO PARK YOUR CAR. THERE ARE ISSUES -- POTENTIAL ISSUE WITH THAT. WE COME PUBLIC PORTION OF

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BEFORE WE GET INTO INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

AND COMMISSIONER GAINES SAYS TAP THE BRAKES AND USE A YELLOW LIGHT. THE COMMITTEE AGREES WITH THAT ANALYSIS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA.

SPEND $30,000 PER STALL. BUILD 400 SPACES.

WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMITMENTS ARE. ONCE WE NAIL DOWN WHAT IS THE LARGEST CONSUMER IN DOWNTOWN. WHAT SOLUTIONS THEY WILL POTENTIALLY COME TO THE TABLE. MAYBE THEY WILL WRITE A CHECK OUT FOR $30,000 PER SPACE AND SAY BUILD IT ON YOUR LAND.

WE DON'T KNOW. BUT THESE THINGS NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED BEFORE THE COMMITTEE CAN EVEN COME TO THE COMMISSION TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALMOST TAKING THE TAP THE BRAKES APPROACH RIGHT NOW TO SAY WE NEED MORE DATA.

THE WALKER PARKING STUDY IS A PHENOMENAL 10,000 SQUARE FOOT OF THE CONDITIONS. ONCE WE START PLUGGING IN LOCAL CONCERNS IS WHERE WE RUN INTO THAT -- KIND OF THIS -- SLOWS THE ENTIRE PROCESS DOWN. PERFECT EXAMPLE IS IN THEIR ANALYSIS. I GET THIS.

PUTTING ON MY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE HAT.

AND THEIR ANALYSIS IS BASED ON FUNCTIONALITY OF OFFICE SPACE.

NOT JUROR-PACKED ROOMS. SO WHEN WE PLUCK THEIR NUMBERS OUT OF THE ANALYSIS AND ASK THEY SPECIFICALLY DID IT CONTEMPLATE THE INCREASE IN JURY USE, ETC., NO.

LITERALLY THE INFORMATION IN THAT REPORT IS ANTIQUATED AS OF TODAY WITH A NEGATIVE 150 JUROR ACCOUNT.

PUTS ZONE ONE INTO THE NEGATIVE. ZONE TWO IS IN THE NEGATIVE.

THAT IS TODAY AND THAT IS REALITY.

WE NEED TO GET THOSE NUMBERS REFINED.

THE PARKING COMMITTEE WILL TAKE A WHACK OF ANALYTICAL DATA FOR CITY COMMISSION FOR YOU FOLKS TO MULL OVER AND WHAT DIRECTION TO MOVE, BUT COMMISSIONER GAINES, YOU ARE AHEAD OF THE CURVE BECAUSE YOUR ASSESSMENT IS 100% ACCURATE.

WE PUT TIMELINES IN THIS RECOMMENDATION SAYING, HEY, GUYS, WE NEED THAT RECOMMENDATION NOW.

THAT IS WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES. >>MAYOR: I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER THE PARKING LOT DOWN THERE NEXT TO ST. ANDREWS.

IS THAT OWNED BY THE COUNTY? >> OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND CITY

-- >>COMMISSIONER PERONA:

PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. >>MAYOR: SO THAT IS PUBLIC PARK

GOING I REMEMBER. >> IN THE ANALYSIS.

>>MAYOR: IT IS IN THE ANALYSIS? OKAY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT. MR. MIMMS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT ANY RECENT CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD WITH ST.

LUCIE COUNTY ABOUT PARKING OR THE COURTHOUSE OR ANYTHING?

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM. I WILL SAY LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHN, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAN COUNTY STAFF. I BELIEVE -- I HAVE MET WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, FACILITIES MAINTENANCE FOLKS. THEY HAVE NO PLAN.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA. AND THEY KNOW NOT WHAT TO DO.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A JOINT BOARD MEETING. PTHAT WAY YOUR CONCERNS TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THAT WAY WE CAN FOCUS TOGETHER.

RIGHT NOW AT A STAFF LEVEL, THERE IS NO PLAN.

THERE IS NO IDEA THERE IS NO AWARENESS OF THIS SITUATION.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED AND COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON HAD ME THINKING OF THIS AGAIN, WHAT IS THE COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO THE COURTHOUSE AND GOVERNMENT FACILITIES IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS INCLUDING PARKING.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT -- WHAT IS GOING ON.

I JUST WENT TO A MEETING -- I THINK YOU WERE THERE, MR. BRODERICK, WHERE WE HAD A COUNTY COMMISSIONER TALK OF THE MONEY THAT IS NOW FLOWING THROUGH THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW AND SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE STARTING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THAT INCLUDING BUILDING UTILITY FACILITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE MOVING FORWARD. I AM TELLING YOU THIS RIGHT NOW IS VERY PRIMED FOR A DECISION GOING FORWARD.

WHEN WE SIT THERE AND TALK WITH THE COUNTY AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS GOING TO BE WITH US AND THEIR PARTNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS PARKING ISSUE.

THIS MAY BRING TO THE FRONT GROUND IS THE FACT THAT WHAT IS

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AND IF THEY ARE TALKING 100 AND SOME MILLION DOLLARS.

YOU CAN ADD ANOTHER 100 MILLION TO IT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE AND THAT MAY HAPPEN. I AM NOT SAYING I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT, BUT I AM SAYING THESE ARE REAL DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE NOW SO WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

VERY DISINGENUOUS TO MOVE DOWN THE PARKWAY AND BUILD PARKING SOLUTIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE TEN, 15

YEARS FROM NOW. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: COMMISSIONER PERONA, I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE IS NO PLAN.

I SUGGEST THAT THIS BOARD MEET WITH THEIR BOARD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND HAVE A JOINT CONSENSUS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

AS OF RIGHT NOW THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS THE ONLY ENTITY PLANNING OR THINKING OF THE PARKING SITUATION IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. .

>>MAYOR: WE NEED TO BE THE CATALYST TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND I THINK IT HAS TO BE AT THE

COMMISSION LEVEL. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES.

>>MAYOR: I AM LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND IF WE INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS IN A LETTER INCLUDING A MEETING IN A LETTER. I AM NOT -- I KNOW WE NEED -- WE NEED THE -- THE INFORMATION URGENTLY.

ARE WE -- ARE -- DO WE PUT A TIMELINE ON THAT FOR THE COUNTY?

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT A TIMELINE.

I THOUGHT SERIOUSLY THAT A TIMELINE WILL BE MET.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS TO GET IN JOINT MEETING SCHEDULED. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO. I MET WITH THE COUNTY FOLKS -- YOU MET ONE OF THEM RECENTLY AND YOU HEARD THE RESPONSE THAT I RECEIVED. I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT I CAN DO IS NOTIFIED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT THERE IS A

SERIOUS CONCERN. >>MAYOR: AN URGENT CONCERNS.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FOR THE SCHEDULING OF

THE JOINT BOARD MEETING. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MADAM MAYOR, TO SUPPORT THAT AND AS A MEMBER OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE.

WE ARE HEARING FROM THEIR FOLKS FROM THE COUNTY.

NOT JUST US MAKING THIS UP. WE HAVE THE CLERK SCREAMING AND YELLING THAT THEY NEED PARKING. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SAYING THEY NEED DEDICATED PARKING FOR WHAT IS GOING ON.

WE DIDN'T SEND THEM BACK TO THE COUNTY AND SAY DEAL WITH THEM.

WE WENT AHEAD AND HANDLED IT OURSELVES WITH THE COMMISSION.

WE CAME UP WITH STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS THAT MOVED THAT FORWARD. THERE IS A DISCONNECT FROM THE COUNTY TO THOSE AGENCIES. 37 AND THAT IS -- THAT JUST GIVES ME TOTAL DISCOMFORT RIGHT N NOW. I AGREE.

LET'S GET THIS TOGETHER AND GET TALKING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND A PRETTY GOOD IDEA HOW WE ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY HAND IN HAND. DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR AND GET THESE

SOLUTIONS. >> JUST TO REINFORCE THAT STATEMENT, WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY UNIQUE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE COMING TO A COMMITTEE TO --

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: BUILD US SOME PARKING.

>> A LITTLE OUT OF OUR WHEELHOUSE.

BUT THE NATURAL QUESTION TO BE ASKED, IS IT FILTERING IT UP IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY TO COME IN WITH A UNIFIED VOICE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. ULTIMATELY THE ONE DEVELOPMENT -- AUDRIA REACHED OUT TO THEIR PERSONNEL WHO ARE NOW ATTENDING OUR MEETINGS TO GIVE INFORMATION BACK FROM THE COUNTY RELATIVE TO HARD DATA WE NEED. THEIR COMPLETE ACKNOWLEDGMENT WAS, WE DON'T KNOW. AND WE KIND OF --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CRAFT A LETTER THAT KIND OF COVERS ALL THAT AND ASK FOR A JOINTING.

IS THAT AGREEABLE? >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

THEY WILL FEEL THE URGENCY. >>MAYOR: EXPRESS THE URGENCY WITHOUT GIVING A DEADLINE. MIGHT BE PUSHBACK ON A DEADLINE EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THERE IS A DEADLINE.

WINK, WINK, HURRY UP. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: VERBAL. PASS THAT INFORMATION ON IN ADDITION -- EVEN IF YOU DO IT MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER AND EXPRESS THE URGENCY VERBALLY GOES A LONG WAY, I THINK.

. >>MAYOR: CORRECT, CORRECT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I WILL DO IT.

I WILL REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSION MYSELF.

IT HAS GOT TO CONTINUE ON. HAS TO.

>>MAYOR: ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. SO, YEAH, GOOD -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRING THIS -- I MEAN, FOR -- IT MAKES ME FEEL THE URGENCY NOW. AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN

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WE ARE OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: UNTIL ONE DAY YOU ARE NOT. .

>>MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE

[c. Discussion on agenda for joint meeting with Housing Authority Board.]

COMMITTEE. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION ON AGENDA FOR JOINT MEETING FOR HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD. .

>>MAYOR: MR. MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD AUGUST 29, 2022 AT 11 A.M. AND THAT MEETING WILL BE -- THAT MEETING WILL BE -- AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BASE, THEIR CONFERENCE. AND THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE YOU ALL SIT IN A CONFIGURATION THAT YOU CAN HAVE A FUNCTIONAL CONVE CONVERSATION; HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR INPUT ON TO THE CONTENT OF THIS DISCUSSION AND THIS MEETING. AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING AND I ATTACHED THAT TO SOME OF YOUR BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION. WE TALKED OF BUILDING WORKING RELATIONSHIPS, OUR GOALS, POLICIES, APPLICATIONS.

REBRANDING. CODE ENFORCEMENT AND STRATEGIC PLAN ALIGNMENT. IN ADDITION, WHAT CAME UP DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS WAS THE EXISTING PAYMENT IN LI E+U OF TAXES AGREEMENT. I HAVE FOUND THAT THERE IS A GENERAL FEDERAL POLICY FOR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.

THE PERCENTAGE IS A MAX OF 10% FOR UNITS OF LOW INCOME PROJECTS, ELDERLY PROJECTS AND CONGREGATE ELDERLY HOUSING SO WE ARE AT THAT CAP WITH THAT EXISTING AGREEMENT AND WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE EXISTING AGREEMENT AND I WILL WORK WITH THE -- WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT. BUT I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE DISCUSSED WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD.

>>MAYOR: I WANT TO SET THE STAGE.

I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ROSETTA WHO IS NOW THE PERMANENT HOUSING AUTHORITY DIRECTOR. I INVITED HER TO COME TO THIS MEETING TO HEAR OUR DISCUSSION, BUT THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOMETHING THAT IS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE THAT HUD COMES IN AND REVIEWS CERTAIN OF THEIR -- THEIR PROPERTIES AND KIND OF IN THE MIDST WHERE SHOULDN'T GO AWAY AND I TOLD HER TO WATCH THE MEETING AFTERWARDS TO GET SOME IDEA -- BECAUSE SHE -- I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN CURIOUS AND CONCERNED ABOUT -- DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, RIGHT.

I TOLD HER THIS WAS NOT, IN MY OPINION, A GOTCHA MEETING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS AN INFORMATION-SEEKING MEETING. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE OUR COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE ANY FACETIME WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I VENTURE TO SAY SOME OF US DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTIES ARE, WHAT THEY DO, WHAT -- THEY HAVE TO OBEY HUD CONCERNS. THEY HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT MARCHING ORDERS FOR THEIR HOUSING -- WHAT THEY PROVIDE.

UP TRY TO REASSURE HER QUESTIONER SEEKING INFORMATION AND WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND GOOD PARTNERS SO I AM SHARING THAT WITH YOU. SHE IS GOING TO HAVE -- THE HUD REGIONAL DIRECTOR WILL BE THERE AS WELL AS HER LEGAL COUNSEL THERE AND HER BOARD. AND SO -- SHE ASKED HOW IT CAME WE WERE MEET THERE. AND I SAID THAT WAS MY IDEA BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THESE CHAMBERS WHERE WE SAT AROUND WITH TWO BOARDS TALKING TO EACH OTHER AS EQUALS AS OPPOSED. I THINK THAT -- THAT KIND OF RELIEVED SOME OF HER CONCERN THAT WE WERE JUST SEEKING TO HAVE AN INFORMATION EXCHANGE TO KNOW WHAT EACH OF US DOES AND WHAT OUR INTERESTS ARE. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: LOOKING AT THE LIST.

WE NEED TO ADD A KEY ELEMENT THAT INVITES THEM TO BRING THEIR CONCERNS TO THE TABLE. AND THAT THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, US INTERRATING THEM -- BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING CHANGES ALL THE TIME FOR FORT PIERCE THAT DO IMPACT --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IMPACT AND EFFECT THEM.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: ESPECIALLY THEM.

AND WE NEED THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN ASK THEM FOR, HEY, GIVE US A CLUE WHERE YOU ARE AT.

WHAT HAVE WE DONE THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK Y'ALL.

TALK TO US ABOUT THAT. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THAT GREAT

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WE ACT IN A VOID AND DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

THAT WOULD BE KEY. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

AND MAYBE WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESSES.

WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AND SAY HOW IS IT GOING TO EFFECT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND WE NEED TO TALK TO THEM BEFORE WE ACTUALLY FINALIZE THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

I REALLY THINK THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT. YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: HOW THERE IS STRATEGY AND IF THERE IS JUST PROGRAMMING IN GENERAL EFFECTS AND/OR ENCOUNTERS AND TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ATTAINMENT HOUSING WHICH IS THE WORD OF THE DAY. ACROSS THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.

IT IS CALLED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEY ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR

NAME. >>MAYOR: WHAT IS THEIR NICHE.

>> ATTAINABLE HOUSING. WHAT DO THE CLIENTS LOOK LIKE? HOW DO THEY HELP THEM? TALK ABOUT THE BIGGER CONVERSATION WE FOCUS ON ALL THE TIME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SUSTAINABLE. THE NEW WORD.

>> THE NEW BUZZWORD. > PART OF THAT CONVERSATION TOO AND OPENS UP THE SPECTRUM A LITTLE BIT AND THE CONVERSATION THAT IT IS NOT AN INTERROGATION. THOSE ARE REAL QUESTIONS AND REAL CONCERNS AND BEING INVOLVED IN THE TERRITORY IS ON THEIR TURF AND A GREAT FACILITY TO USE.

>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

HE THINKS IT WAS COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON REQUESTED A JOINT MEETING, BUT IT WAS BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT.

I USE THE TERM "ATTAINABLE HOUSING" INSTEAD OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE HOMELESS AND TRY TO GET AFFORDABLE HOU

HOUSING. >> AT THAT POINT WE CAME DOWN AND SIT DOWN WITH THE BOARD, HOUSING BOARD TO SEE WHAT THEIR PLANS WERE. SO I THINK THAT IS THE IDEA THAT CAME ABOUT. IT WASN'T A COMING HERE WE WILL IT WAS, LIKE, HOW CAN YOU HELP US ACHIEVE AND DO SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH ATTAINABLE HOUSING.

I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON WE REQUESTED THE MEETING.

SO IF THEY ARE LISTENING, IT IS JUST A CHANGE OF IDEAS TRYING TO HELP THE SAME THING AND HELP THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS.

. >>MAYOR: WHAT WAS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PORTION OF IT, MR. MIMMS, DO YOU KNOW?

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: COULD HAVE BEEN -- MADAM MAYOR -- I AM JUST GUESSING. ONE THING I KNOW WITH REGARDS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND HOW THE RECEPTACLES ARE LEFT ALONGSIDE OF THE ROAD.

FOR THE MOST PART, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MAINTAINS THEIR GROUNDS AND AREAS IN A VERY SATISFACTORY.

THAT IS THE ONLY THIS WING CODE ENFORCEMENT.

>>MAYOR: HOW ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

HAVE YOU HEARD ANY ISSUES? >> I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY ISSUE WITH REGARD TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW WE PREVIOUSLY HAD A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP. AND WE WERE -- WE EVEN HAD A LITTLE SUBSTATION IN ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFF OCCUPIES THAT SPACE AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY MAIN CONCERNS REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE PHONE CALLS I GET FROM FOLKS IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR FAMILY MEMBERS IN.

AND COULD COVER A BROAD TOPIC. MAINTENANCE IN THE FACILITIES, THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE OR THE CONDITIONS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. YOU KNOW THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF 1,000, BUT THOSE ARE THE COMPLAINTS THAT I HEARD AND SOLID WASTE WAS ANOTHER ONE. AND THE INADMINISTER I DON'T REMEMBER AND THE EXTERNAL OF THE PHYSICAL BUILDING ITSELF.

AND THAT WILL APPLY TO CODE AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO SOME

LEVEL. >> I HAD CONVERSATIONS W WITH ROSETTA OF THE FACT THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, THEY HAD REDUCED SERVICES FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO GO IN THEIR APARTMENTS BECAUSE -- ON BOTH SIDES, THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT NEARNESS. SO THEY HAVE HAD TO PLAY -- TO

DO SOME REAL CATCH UP. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I USED TO BE INVOLVED IN SECTION 8 WHICH HAVE -- ADMINISTERED BY

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WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOW VERY FEW HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR EVERYBODY AND HOUSING AUTHORITY -- A COMPLETE DIFFERENT DYNAMIC FOR THEM TO DEAL WITH. IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP AS A COMMUNITY TO KEEP THAT AFFORDABLE.

AND AS FAR AS SECTION 8. AND WE HAVE MORE, I THINK, WE ARE CAPITAL SECTION EIGHT THAN ANY OF THE THREE COUNTIES AROUND US. WE ARE KEY AND IF A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSE WAS RENTED FOR $1,000 LAST YEAR, THAT SAME HOUSE MAY BE $1800 OR $2,000 MORE THAN THAT.

AND FALLS OFF THE ABILITY -- OFF THE MARNT FOR HOUSING AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DEAL WITH IT. AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT LETTING PEOPLE FALL THROUGH THE GAPS ON THAT.

AND THAT CAN STILL BE ABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE APPROPRIATE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY. .

>>MAYOR: THE LEVEL. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: HOW THE MARKET IS AFFECTING THEIR AVAILABILITY IN THEIR PROGRAM IN SECTION 8. .

>>MAYOR: ESPECIALLY SECTION 8. GOOD IDEA.

GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE?

THAT IS A PRETTY FULL AGENDA. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM.

WHAT I WILL DO -- I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

I WILL GET WITH ROSETTA BASED TO YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S FEEDBACK AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A VERY GOOD MEETING. .

>>MAYOR: A BENCHMARK MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE

[d. Staff will present information on the Safe Streets and Roads for All (SS4A) Discretionary Grant to promote the Vision Zero safety plan. . ]

WE ARE GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING TODAY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: WE WILL LEARN

SOMETHING TODAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I READ THE BACK-UP. SELENA, I FORGET YOUR TITLE.

>> PROJECT ENGINEER. >> PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THE SAFE STREETS FOR ROADS AND ALL PRESENTATION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. ANDREWS. >> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, SELENA WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS NEW PROVING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS GRIFFIN OR GRIFFITH.

>> GRIFFITH. GOOD MORNING MAYOR HUDSON AND COMMISSIONERS. SERENA GRIFFITH AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT A NEW DISCRETION RYE GRANT CALLED THE SAFE STREET FOR ROADS AT ALL KNOWN AS SS 4A. YOU KNOW FEDERAL PEOPLE HIKE --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANOTHER ACRONYM.

>> THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO LOCAL AGENCIES TO MOVE TOWARD A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION OF DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON OUR ROAD ROADWAYS.

CURRENTLY, DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES ARE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AFFECTING ALL ROAD USERS, NOT JUST DRIVERS IN CARS BUT BICYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, ANYONE USING ROADWAYS TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. BOTH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEIR TARGET ZERO PROGRAM AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION VISION ZERO PROGRAM FULLY SUPPORT ALL EFFORTS TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT TO SAFETY.

THESE AGENCIES ENCOURAGE THE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH AND INCLUDES SIX KEY PRINCIPLES. THOSE PRINCIPLES ARE DEATH AND SERIOUS INJURY IS UNACCEPTABLE. HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES.

HUMANS ARE VULNERABLE. RESPONSIBILITY IS SHARED.

SAFETY IS PROACTIVE. AND REDUNDANCY IS CRUCIAL.

THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW CREATED IN 2021 CREATED A

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THIS FUNDING WILL PROVIDE $1 BILLION ANNUALLY.

$5 BILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THE BILL TO LOCAL AGENCIES TO CREATE AND TO IMPLEMENT SAFETY PROGRAMS. AT LEAST 40% OF THE ACTUAL FUNDING WILL BE AWARDED FOR ACTION PLANTS WITH REMAINDER AND IMPLEM IMPLEMENTATION. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN IS LOOKING AT THE COST BETWEEN $200,000 AND $1 MILLION. THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS WILL BE ANYWHERE FROM $5 MILLION TO $30 MILLION.

THAT IS KIND OF THEIR CAPS. COST SHARE FOR THIS GRANT IS 80% FEDERAL, 20% LOCAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ELIGIBLE ENTITIES, PUSHGZTOS, CITIES, COUNTIES AND ANY PARTS OF THE STATE OR GROUPS OF THOSE ENTITIES.

HE WILL QUIBBLE ACTIVITIES IS DEVELOPMENT AND REFINING OF A CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY PLAN.

ONCE YOU HAVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN, YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS IN FUTURE YEARS. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT FDOT IS NOT FOR THESE FUNDS. THEY WILL NOT GO TO THE DOT, THEY WILL GO TO THE AGENCIES AND LOCALES APPLYING.

THE COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN WILL ALSO MAKE US ELIGIBLE FOR OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING. THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE FDOT IS MAKING THAT AVAILABLE TO LOCALITIES AND WE WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT FUNDING AS WELL.

OKAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE TO TIME GOING TO TELL YOU OF A COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN ORCSAP.

THIS DOCUMENT WILL IDENTIFY AND IDENTIFY IN PRIORITIZATION OF LOW-COST SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. THE FIRST STEP -- IT WILL GIVE US A PROCESS TO FOLLOW. THE FIRST STEP IS TO INVOLVE YOU, OUR LEADERSHIP. THE STAFF WILL RETURN TO YOU THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CSAP TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND TO MAINTAIN SUPPORT FOR ANY POLICY OR PROCESS CHANGES, ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, GOAL SETTING, AND EQUITY CONSID CONSIDERATIONS.

WE ANTICIPATE USING PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES TO MEET THE TECHNICAL NEEDS OF APPLICATION PLAN.

WE WILL NEED TO REVIEW ACTION REPORTS AND DAY AT THAT FOR LOCATION AND TYPE. THEN PERFORM ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHAT LOW COST SAVING IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN IMPLEMENT AND WHERE. THE SAME CONSULTANT ALSO HELP US ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN ANY WAY WE CAN.

THE ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER WILL BE THE SS 4A CHAMPION.

THE DAY TO DAY ORGANIZATION AND WORK WITH A SPECIFICALLY SELECTED TASK GROUP TO OVERSEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ACTION PLAN AND PRIORITIZE PROJECTS IN NEED.

THE TASK GROUP AN OUR CONSULTANTS HELP WITH COMMUNITY INITIATIVES AND INVOLVEMENT. NEXT SLIDE.

ONCE WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN, WE WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS AND THAT IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. WE HAVE A PRIORITIZED LEST OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED OR WHERE.

IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS UPGRADED PAVEMENT MARKINGS OR PAVEMENT MARKERS. NEW SIGN THAT HAVE THE RIGHT RETRO REFLECT I WAS PROPERTIES. IMPROVED LIGHTNING, RUMBLE STRIPS, RAISED INTERSECTIONS. PROVEN SAFETY COUNTERMEASURES YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE. SS 4A HAVE MANY OPTIONS AND MUCH IMPROVEMENT FOR ENHANCEMENT. LOOK FOR WFA AND FDOT FOR LOW COST AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. THE NEXT STEP IS TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION DUE CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 15.

I HAVE BEEN WORK ON THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW.

WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE A $3,000 GRANT WITH A $60,000 CITY MATCH TO CREATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

THE APPLICATION INCLUDES THREE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.

THE FIRST CRITERIA THE SAFETY IMPACT IS QUAN FAY I HAVE IT

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THE NEXT QUANTITATIVE RATE SOMETHING TO TAKE THAT NUMBER AND TURN IT INTO A FATALITY RATE AVERAGE THAT IS DETERMINED BY THE U.S. CENSUS POPULATION AND PER 100,000 PEOPLE.

THAT NUMBER THAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS 16.14 FATALITIES PER POPULATION OF 100,000. THE SECOND CRITERIA IS THE EQUITY CRITERIA. LOOKED AT THE PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION CONSIDERED IN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

ACCORDING TO THE SS 4A UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY CENSUS TRACK TOOL. A WEB SITE.

YOU CLICK ON THE WEB SITE. AND YOU PULL UP YOUR LOCALITY.

AND IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOUR PERCENTAGE OF UNDERSERVED -- POPULATION IS. BASICALLY WE ARE AT ABOUT 98%.

LASTLY -- THE LAST STEP IS THE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS.

A 300-PAGE NARRATIVE. 300 BOARD NARRATIVE.

>> COULDN'T WRITE #00 PAGES. >> SORRY, 300 WORD NARRATIVE THAT SUMMARIZES THE CITY'S DESIRE TO REDUCE DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES FOR EVERY PERSON USING OUR STREETS AND ROADS. WE ARE INCLUDING DETAILS OF UNIQUE COMMUNITY AND UNIQUE NEEDS.

WE WILL INCLUDE MAPS AND OTHER RESOURCES TO COMPLETE OUR APPLICATION. WE ARE REALLY CLOSE OF BEING COMPLETE. THE ONLY THING WE ARE WAITING FOR FOR IS FULL ACCESS TO THE GRANTS.COM WEB SITE.

THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING -- I MEAN FOR THOSE OF WHO ATTEND THE. IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE. A BRAND-NEW PROGRAM WE ARE LEARNING. ATTENDED MULTIPLE WEB FAR INS.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK -- I THINK CAN HELP US ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

A SPECIAL GUESTS FOR MY PTO -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: THEY COVERED IT

FOR YOU. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: A LONG CONVERSATION THIS PAST WEDNESDAY AT THE TPO, IS OUR PROJECTS GOING TO COINCIDE WITH THE LIST I RECEIVED AT THE TPO OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS?

>> I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT THE TPO WENT THROUGH TO CREATE WHAT THEY ARE CALLING THEIR COMPREHENSIVE ACTION PLAN; HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT FALL AS LITTLE SHORT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I DO TOO, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

>> IT DOES. I MEAN THE FOCUS OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE STUDIES THAT THEY HAVE DONE WHICH, AGAIN, PROVIDE EXCELLENT INFORMATION AND EXCELLENT RESOURCES, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS HARD FOR THEM TO NARROW IT DOWN TO THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IN THE CITY.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE IN THE REGION. IT FALLS A LITTLE SHORT FOR US.

SO, NO, I WOULDN'T BE USING -- I WOULD NOT BE SUR SUING THE FUNDS FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE CITY.

THEY ARE BOTH FOR BUFFERED BIKE LANES ON 13TH STREET AND AVENUE D. I WOULD BE LOOKING AT -- MY PLAN IS THAT WE PULL THE INFORMATION FROM SIGNAL FOR ANALYTICS AND LOOK AT WHERE WE WERE HAVING THOSE -- THOSE ACCIDENTS, THOSE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO AT THE SIGNAL? IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO ON THE PAVEMENT? CAN WE ENHANCE CROSSWALKS AND ADD LIGHTNING AND ENHANCE THE SIGNAGE.

WHAT CAN WE DO IN AIT IGS TO GOING OUT AND DOING -- IN ADDITION TO GOING OUT AND DOING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH.

GO TO THE SCHOOL. TALK TO THE KIDS.

MAYBE GO TO DRIVER'S EDUCATION CLASS.

WE CAN ATTEND -- YOU KNOW, HAVE TENTS OR WHATEVER AT THE FARMER'S MARKET OR AT THE SPECIAL EVENTS AROUND THE AREA WHERE WITH HE CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT CAN THEY SEE.

RIGHT NOW WE USE THE SIGNAL FOUR ANALYTICS AND TELLS YOU SO MUCH.

WE CAN WORK WITH THE POLICE FORCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM. I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY FROM THE POLICE FORCE TO WORK ON THE TASK GROUP SO WE CAN WORK WITH THEM AND WHAT DO THEY SEE? HOW CAN WE HELP THEM? WORK TOGETHER AND IDENTIFY THE NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS AND

ADDRESS THEM. >> RIGHT, AT THE TPO, WE WENT AFTER A FEW EXTRA PROJECTS. YOUR -- COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON

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THAT WASN'T ON THE LIST AND HE TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE TPO AND HERE WITH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN GENERAL.

THE LIGHTING ASPECT OF 35TH. 13TH STREET, AVENUE D, A COUPLE OF PROJECTS. I AM GOOD WITH STAFF GRABBING A HOLD OF ANY OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND MOVING IT FORWARD BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A ONE-TIME DEAL OR NOT BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I AM GOOD WITH THE 300,000 WITH THE 60 MATCH. 80/20.

THAT IS THE MATH. YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO BUMP IT UP EVEN, THAT IS OKAY TOO. BUT GOOD REASONABLE -- A REASONABLE NUMBER FOR THE TASK FOR YOU TO ACCOMPLISH YOU CAN I CAN SPEND THOSE FUNDS IN A REASONABLE TIME?

>> I THINK THE STUDY -- IT WILL E NEW HOW WE DO THAT. FROM THE TIME THEY ANNOUNCE THE AWARDS.

IT MAY BE A YEAR BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET THE AWARD.

THAT IS OKAY BECAUSE THAT GIVES ME TIME TO GET A CONSULTANT ON BOARD FOLLOWING THE FEDERAL PROCESS.

AND I THINK, YEAH, ONE TO TWO YEARS' TIME TO DO THIS STUDY AND MAKE SURE IT IS RIGHT AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AND TURN THE STUDY IN AND THEY APPROVE IT.

WE GOT IT NOW TO USE FOR DAILY IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND FOR THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.

HHIP HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR -- FOR YEARS.

I AM GOING TO SAY -- I FIRST USED THOSE FUNDS IN 2005, 20006.

IT IS STILL AROUND. I EXPECT WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE6 IT IS STILL AROUND. I EXPECT WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE.

WHEN THE FEDS APPROVE THE BILLS, THEY ROLL OVER.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DO IT EVERY YEAR.

FIVE YEARS, YEAR ONE. IF WE WERE TO GET THAT GRANT IN YEAR THREE, WE WOULD APPLY FOR AN IMPLEMENTATION GRANT AND PUT INTO PLACE SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND THAT WILL DO THREE, FOUR AND

FIVE. >> MAKES SENSE.

GOOD OUTLOOK. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT COMES TO MIND THE MOST TALKED ABOUT AREAS OF SPEEDING AND UNSAFE DRIVING AND AT LEAST TWO OF THE REALLY BAD ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WERE DUE TO A YOUNG PERSON HAVING TOO MUCH TO DRINK.

AND DRIVING EXCESSIVE SPEED AS A RESULT.

AND I KNOW YOU WILL NOT DEAL WITH THE WHOLE ASPECT OF IT.

IT WASN'T ON YOUR LIST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BRANCH OUT WITH -- MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY.

IMPAIRED DRIVING DEFINITELY FITS INTO THIS TRAFFIC SAFETY.

AND ALSO, IT SEEMS THAT THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS ON PEDESTRIANS.

AS OPPOSED TO CAR ACCIDENT. ONLY INVOLVING VEHICLES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU INTEND BUT IF WE COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO HAVE A NAME. A NAME THAT IS IDENTIFIER AND IF YOU ARE PART OF THE SAVE OUR KIDS ON THE STREETS PLAN OR WHATEVER THE PLAN. AND I ALSO HAD A REALLY BAD TRAFFIC FATALITY OF A CHILD GETTING ON A SCHOOL BUS.

SO WE HAD SOME REAL HIGH PROFILE FATALITIES, BUT THIS COMMISSION HAS TALKED MANY TIMES ABOUT SPEEDING AND SPEEDING PARTICULARLY ON CERTAIN STREETS. YIND IAN RIVER DRIVE, 15TH STREET. BENNY DRIVE.

PARDON? >> 13TH STREET.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NEIGHBORHOODS. I KNOW THERE WAS A CONSTITUENT IN HIBISCUS PARK THAT PEOPLE SPEED THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND PEOPLE SPEED BY DAN MCCARTHY SCHOOL ALONG -- I DON'T KNOW IF.

I KNOW THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDED A LOT OF DIFFERENT LITTLE THINGS BUT NICE TO HAVE AN UMBRELLA NAME ON IT SO BE SPEAKING UP TO MY MARKETING COMMISSIONER WHO IS NOT HERE.

WE COULD BE MARKETING IT. AND PEOPLE WOULD ALL WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. AND I GET THE MOST COMPLAINTS OF SPEEDING ON U.S. 1 AND THE TRAFFIC ON U.S. 1.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAFFIC PART OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

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THOSE ARE SOME OF MY IDEAS THAT COME TO MIND IN TERMS OF WHAT A CITIZEN WILL UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO HERE.

>> YES. SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY -- I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU THINK SOMETIMES, HOW DO WE FIX IMPAIRED DRIVING. YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE ARE ENGINEERING WAYS TO HANDLE THAT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT IS RUMBLE STRIPS ON THE EDGES OF THE PAVEMENT WHEN YOU GET TO THE LANE LINES. IS IMPAIRED IN THE CENTER LINE.

WHOA, WAKES THEM UP AND THEY PAY A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION.

SIMPLE THINGS YOU CAN DO AND THAT IS AN ENGINEERING THING.

SOME OF THINGS WE CAN DO, WHATEVER IT IS, THEY TEND TO BE LOW COST AND EASY TO IMPLEMENT. AND IT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF

THOSE THINGS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT, RIGHT,

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PIECE OF IS GETTING PEDESTRIANS ACROSS THE MAJOR ROADWAYS. I KNOW WE HAVE WALKWAYS AND RULES AND LAWS TO PROTECT THAT, BUT A LOT OF TIME YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT PERSON IS GOING TO WALK ACROSS OR JUST STAND THERE.

I KNOW SOME COMMUNITIES -- AND I SEE A COUPLE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY WHERE WE HAVE FLASHING LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL LET DRIVERS KNOW PAUSE ON A 1A. PEOPLE BLOW THROUGH THOSE THINGS AND IGNORE THEM. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A SAFE ROAD WHERE PEDESTRIANS CAN CROSS OVER. IT NEEDS TO BE LIGHTED.

IT REALLY DOES AND HOPEFULLY THAT IS IN SOME OF THE

CONSIDERATIONS GOING FORWARD. >> ABSOLUTELY.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FIRST IS GET A REAL GOOD STORY WHAT THESE ACCIDENTS ARE.

THESE 42 FATALITIES. AND WHAT THE SERIOUS ACCIDENTS ARE. WHERE WERE THEY.

WHAT TIME OF DAY WERE THEY. WHAT HAPPENED.

AND THEN, OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO FIX IT? WAS IT A PEDESTRIAN. DO WE NEED ANOTHER KIND OF LIGHT? DO WE NEED AN UPGRADED PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL. CAME UP WITH NEW ER -- WITH THE SOUND. WITH THE AUDIO -- WITH THE AUDIO -- LIKE YOU SEE THOSE ON ST. LUCIE WEST.

THEY DRIVE ME CRAZY. YOU KNOW THESE KIND OF THINGS.

WE MAY BE ABLE TO PUT SOME SORT OF A FLASHER IN THE SIGNALS THAT LET PEOPLE KNOW. YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN THOSE IN OTHER PLACES. WE CAN EXPLORE ANYTHING WITH

THIS THAT WILL IMPROVE SAFETY. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: FINAL QUESTION TOO. I KNOW IT IS SAFE STREETS AND ROADS. WE ARE NOT DEALING AT ALL WITH

RAILROAD CROSSINGS IN THIS? >> WE WOULD HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS ONLY PAUSE WE DON'T OWE THEM.

FEC CONTROLS THEM. HOWEVER, IT WOULD NOT BE IMPOSSIBLE THAT WE INCLUDE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS AND GUIDANCE IN PUBLIC OUTREACH. YOU KNOW CERTAINLY WE COULD GET FEC TO THE TABLE ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO THE TABLE AS PART OF THE TASK GROUP. HOW CAN WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CAREFUL.

WHEN THE THING COMES DOWN, YOU STOP, YOU NKNOW.

WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT MORE SAFE.

WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH FEC AND OUR RESIDENTS TO EDUCATE.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: IT ACTUALLY WAS ON THE NEWS THIS MORNING -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT THIS THEMSELVES TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE USER-FRIENDLY.

I UNDER STAND A WHOLE EDUCATION COMPONENT GOING FORWARD.

I HAD HEARD THAT YOU -- LIKE TAKE SEAWAY RIGHT HERE.

YOU REALLY CAN'T CROSS OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK AND WAIT INTO THAT TURNING LANE. THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WOW. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: HAVE BEEN -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY TICKETED BUT WARNED.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NO TURN ON RED ANYMORE EITHER.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: NO TURN ON RED.

USED TO BE IF YOU GO ACROSS THE TRACK, YOU HAVE THAT PRIME LITTLE SPOT ALL TO YOURSELF. THE FIRST ONE TO ENTER BEFORE THE LIGHT CHANGES. THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

YOU CAN BE TICKETED. WE HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB OF EDUCATING FOLKS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO.

SOME OF THEM WHERE BUILT IN WITH SAFEGUARDS OF THE NEW TRAIN SYSTEM AND THE WAY WE CONDUCT OUR ROADWAYS.

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO COOR COORDINATE BING THING IS COORDINATE AND BE CLEAR IN HOW

TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM

MAYOR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

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GAINES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I LOVE THE IDEA. SUPPORT IT.

PAST FATALITIES IN THE STUDIES AND NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING, BUT I WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT HERE.

WE ALL KNOW IT IS COMING. EVERYBODY UP HERE KNOW IT IS COMING. BUT ONE OF THE STUDIES YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD.

SOONER OR LATER, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PEDESTRIANS CROSSING U.S. 1 TO GET TO DOWNTOWN. IT'S COMING.

I MEAN WE JUST HEARD THE PARKING.

WE HEARD EVERYTHING. IT IS COMING.

WE NEED TO START PREPARING FOR A COUPLE OF THOSE -- WHAT IS IT,

DELAWARE, IS IT ORANGE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AVENUE A.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: AVENUE A.

EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE PEDESTRIANS PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF U.S. 1 TO CROSS U.S. 1 TO GET TO THESE DOWNTOWN GROWING AREAS. I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FATALITIES WHEN IT HAPPENS, AND IF -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS -- IF THIS FRONT ALLOWS US TO THINK AHEAD LIKE THAT TO PREVENT FATALITIES BECAUSE I AM JUST -- I FORESEE GOING TO GET TO DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO BE OKAY. BUT I AM WORRIED AFTER SPENDING A GOOD TIME DOWNTOWN AND GETTING BACK.

THOSE ARE SOME IDEAS I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE TO START THINKING ABOUT THEM, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMISSIONER PERONA TALKING ABOUT FLASHING LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING.

AND THOSE WILL BE IDEAL SPOTS BECAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE ON U.S. 1 TO BE ABLE TO STOP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT. AND I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT LIVES DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA. AND SHE SAID THAT ONE OF THE MOST -- ONE OF THE THINGS SHE THOUGHT THE RAILROAD -- THE BRIGHT LANE SHOULD HAVE DONE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IS SIGNAGE THAT SAYS SOMETHING THAT IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE -- HIGH-SPEED TRAINS ARE COMING. YOU KNOW, SO -- THEY REMIND PEOPLE THAT THESE ARE HIGH-SPEED TRAINS AND REMIND PEOPLE SINCE BECAUSE IT IS DOUBLE TRACK YOU DON'T KNOW -- SIMPLE SIGNAGE LIKE THAT. SHE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD FLORIDA THE BEGINNING BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT ONCE THE HIGH-SPEED TRAIN WENT BY, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, GO AROUND THE FLASHING LIGHTS. AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS KIND OF LIKE -- REMEMBER WHEN MCDONALD'S HAD TO SAY OUR COFFEE IS HOT, DON'T -- IT IS JUST KIND OF LIKE -- THESE TRAINS TRAVEL FAST. DON'T TRY TO BEAT THE TRAIN.

I KNOW OUR POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT -- WE ALREADY HAD A VIDEO. I HAVE SEEN IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA -- ABOUT REMINDING PEOPLE DON'T TRY TO BEAT THE TRAIN.

WHEN BRIGHTLINE COMES, WE WILL HAVE AN EDUCATION FOR OUR CITIZEN JUST LIKE THEY HAD TO HAVE A LOT OF FATALITIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA BECAUSE PEOPLE DID FOOLISH THINGS.

SO WE ARE ALL GOOD. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON:

YES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. NOW WE KNOW WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING. AT LEAST PART OF THEM.

>> THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR THE CITY ENGINEER. DOES THIS HAVE THE MAYOR SIGNATURE FOR THE APPLICATION? IF SO, WE NEED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 6.

>> I WILL CHECK THE APPLICATION AND MAKE SURE OF THAT.

I CAN'T SEE EVERYTHING BECAUSE I STILL DON'T HAVE THE FULL ACCESS, BUT I WILL LOOK AT WHAT I WILL DO HAVE.

I BELIEVE IT WILL TAKE A LOCAL OFFICIAL AND THAT -- IT MAY BE

FINE FOR IT TO BE YOU. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: OH, NO, NO,

NO. >> I DON'T KNOW -- SORRY, THAT

IS COME FROM MY -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS FINE.

>> LIKE I SAID -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL SIGN WHATEVER THE COMMISSION TELLS ME TO SIGN.

YEAH, YEAH. WHEN IS THE DEADLINE?

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: SEPTEMBER 6. WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, THANK YOU.

YE YEAH.

[e. Discussion of Utilities Bill Assistance]

>> I LEARNED NOT TO SIGN THINGS, YOU KNOW.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: LET'S MOVE ON. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION OF UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. MIMMS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: I LEARNE WHILE I WAS AWAY, YOU DECIDED -- OR AT LEAST INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF ASSISTING OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS WITH SOME OF THE ESCALATING POWER COSTS OR UTILITY BILL COSTS THEY ARE EXPERIENCING. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS SIMPLY LOOKED AT OUR EXISTING SITUATION AND AUDREY IS GOING TO HELP ME

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AND SHE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID HAS REARED ITS UGLY HEAD.

AUDREY HAS BEEN THE KEY IN INVESTIGATING THIS.

IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT IS BEING OFFERED NOW. LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE, THROUGH LOW ENERGY HOME -- LOW INCOME HOME ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HELD A -- LIKE A FAIR FOR FOLKS TO WALK UP AND THEY TOOK FOLKS' INFORMATION AND WAS ONTO A FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVE BASIS AND ASSISTED APPROXIMATELY 500 PEOPLE.

THEY APPLIED FOR ASSISTANCE. I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE CHECKS WERE CUT AS MUCH YET, BUT I DO BELIEVE THEY WERE ABLE TO APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE. THE FPUA, EXPENDED DURING THE COOLING AND HEATED MONTH. WAIVED ANY LATE FEES OF AUGUST 1, 2022. AND OFFER BUDGET, BILLING AND SPECIAL PAYMENT. IN ADDITION A PROJECT CARE PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

AS YOU RECALL DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE CORONAVIRUS, THERE WAS A FUND SET UP FOR AGENCIES LIKE -- LIKE IN THE IMAGE OF CHRIST.

LIKE OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE GIVEN A POOL OF MONEY TO ASSIST FOLKS WITH THESE COST THAT WERE, UNFORTUNATELY, DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY THE CORONAVIRUS. NEXT SLIDE.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE MUSTARD SEED, ALPY, SALVATION ARMY, IN THE IMAGE OF CHRIST, COUNCIL OF ST. VINCENT DEPAUL AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES.

THESE ARE ALL AVAILABLE NOW TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PUSHED ON NOT ONLY THE FPUA WEB SITE.

ALL OF OUR MEDIA CHANNELS IN THE CITY OF FOFORT PIERCE.

HOW WE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE POSSIBLY HELP OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS CITY -- IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY IS THROUGH PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. WHAT WE HAVE ENVISIONED IS WORK WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY. ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS DONE A MASTERFUL JOB WITH THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE UTILIZED FUNDS AWARDED FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO CREATE ONE DATABASE AND ONE CENTRAL RESOURCE FOR FOLKS TO CALL AND GET TO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE AND EVICTION RELEASE THEY HAVE NEEDED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEY BELIEVE THEY NEED A COUPLE HUNDRED FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSISTED RIGHT HERE IN FORT PIERCE BECAUSE OF THOSE EFFORTS. ST. LUCIE COUNTY DOES HAVE THE STRUCTURE, THE ORGANIZATION AND I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE A GREAT PARTNER IN ASSISTING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO ADMINISTER THE CRISIS HOME ASSISTANCE BASED ON LOW-INCOME HOME ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GUIDELINES. THESE ARE FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT ARE USED FOR THESE TYPE FUNDS AND THE ABILITY OF ALLOCATING 100,000 OF AMERICAN RESCUE ACT FUNDS.

THESE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS. FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVID ASSISTANCE WE WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND AGAIN THE VERY LOW, VERY, VERY LOW INCOME POPULATION ARE THE ONES DISPROPORTION THAT THELY EFFECTED BY, OF COURSE, THE SUBSEQUENT REACTION DUE TO COVID. NOW WE HAVE CERTAIN GUIDELINES.

NUMBER ONE BEING THE NEED TO BE A CITY RESIDENT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT DURING THE COOLING SEASON THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2022. AND I DO BELIEVE WE WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST MANY PEOPLE WITH THIS VENTURE.

NOW I SEE THE MAXIMUM ASSISTANCE IS 5,000.

AND, AGAIN, WE HAVE SEEN FOLKS WITH SOME VERY HIGH BILLS.

BUT, AGAIN, A FINAL NOTICE OR SHUTOFF NOTICE BY FPUA OR WHOEVER THE ENERGY PROVIDER IS TO THE CITY RESIDENT WHO CAN COME IN AND APPLY FOR THAT ASSISTANCE.

AND IN ADDITION WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME COMMUNITY INVESTMENT.

I THINK NOT ONLY DO WE LOOK AT REACTING WE SHOULD LOOK AT MITIGATION. AND MITIGATION,HE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM. WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN MY OPINION VERY UNDERFUND AND VERY UNDERUTILIZED BY FPUA AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OWNER-OCCUPIED FACILITY AND WE CAN GET THE OWNER-OCCUPIED

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I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FPUA HAS BUDGETED.

OUR AN ACTUAL ACTION PLAN CALLS FOR THE CITY OF FORTH TO ALLOCATE $20,000. NOW I BELIEVE THAT CAN EITHER BE MANIPULATED OR SUPPLEMENT THAT THROUGH THE FEDERAL INCOME STANDARDS THROUGH ARP FUNDS. THIS IS WHAT WE IDENTIFY AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ASSISTANCE CURRENTLY.

AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTATION.

>> I WILL SUPPLY THE INFORMATION.

IT IS $50,000. THE WEATHERIZATION.

IT COMES FROM A FUND AT FMPA CALLED CONSERVATION AND DOESN'T COME FROM ANYBODY'S RATES, RIGHT.

WHAT THE FPUA HAS DONE FOR THIS YEAR IS TO DIRECT WHAT IS IN THERE TO BE USED FOR HELPING WITH THE UTILITY BILLS.

FOR THIS YEAR ALONE. AND NEXT YEAR -- WE ARE VERY INTERESTED, THE FPUA IS VERY INTERESTED IN USING AND HELPING PEOPLE WITH WEATHERIZATION. WE HAVE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND BECAUSE THERE IS THE REQUIREMENTS -- THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE A LITTLE STRICT AND ALSO BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE OWNER-OCCUPIED. AND MANY OF OUR CITIZENS ARE RENTERS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT T THE FPUA IS LOOKING AT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF USING THEIR WEATHERIZATION FUNDS FOR RENTERS BUT MAY UNDERSTAND THE DANGER AND DON'T WANT THE LANDLORD TO TAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, INCREASE THE RENT AND THEN KICK SOMEBODY OUTS.

THEY ARE VERY MINDFUL AND ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUTS WAYS TO HELP THE POPULATION WHO DO RENT. FOR NOW THEY HAVE DIRECTED THOSE FUNDS FOR PROJECT CARE, MUSTARD SEED AND ALPY TO HELP CUSTOMERS

WITH THOSE BILLS. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WEATHERIZATION IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE HELPED REDUCE PEOPLE'S BILLS AND HAVE HELPED.

FOR VERY LITTLE INVESTMENT EVEN THOUGH IT IS KIND OF LABOR INTENSIVE. IT IS VERY LITTLE -- BUT IT IS A GOOD THING TO HELP PEOPLE IN THE HOMES THIS THEY LOVE.

THEY WANT TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND BE ABLE TO REDUCE THEIR BILLS. A GOOD THING AND EVEN THOUGH WE ADVERTISED IT AND IT HAS BEEN UNDERUTILIZED AND WE NEED TO TRY TO FIND OUT WAYS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. WITH WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: WE WERE AGGRESSIVE WITH WEATHERIZATION. I REMEMBER BEING PART OF THE UTILITY AUTHORITY AND DID TRACK IT.

ON AVERAGE, THE HOMEOWNER WOULD SAVE ONE UTILITY BILL A YEAR.

AND THAT IS ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMERTIME.

THAT IS BIG-TIME STUFF. SO IT IS SUSTAINABLE.

YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I THOUGHT THE FPRA USED TO PARTICIPATE.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: THAT WAS YEARS AGO, WE DO NOT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF MONEY.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: WHEN DID WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY?

>>MAYOR: LONG AGO. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT WILL ALWAYS BE NEEDED AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. I AM HAPPY THEY ARE TAKING LOOK AT THE FORMAT THAT HANDLES THE TENANT.

THE TENANT IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS THE HELP THE MOST.

I WILL SAY THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE PERHAPS WITH WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT LANDLORD WHERE MAYBE THEY PARTICIPATE IN UNDERSTANDING -- MATCHING TYPE THEY THINK. AND A LOT OF WAYS TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE TWO LANDLORD ASSOCIATIONS THERE LOCALLY.

ST. LUCIE COUNTY ASSOCIATION AND FORT PIERCE LANDLORDS.

BOTH OF THEM ARE PRETTY DYNAMIC AND I AM SURE THEY WOULD LOVE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. IF THE UTILITY AUTHORITY REACHES OUT TO THEM, THEY CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

>> ACTUALLY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HAVE SPOKEN TO THE LANDLORD

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WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION OF DOING WHAT THE LANDLORD WILL DO. WE WANT TO HELP OUR RENTERS.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: AS A LANDLORD AND HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, THE POSITIVE IS THAT RIGHT -- ESPECIALLY THIS TIME RIGHT N NOW.

YOU ARE COMPETING WITH PAYING THEIR UTILITY BILL OR THEIR RENT. IF YOU HAVE SOLUTIONS KEEPING THEIR UTILITY BILL, THE RENT CAN COME IN.

SO IT IS A PLUS. IF THEY -- IF WE CAN MAKE THEM LOOK AT IT THIS WAY RATHER THAN A COMPLETE WE ARE GOING INTO WHY YOU ARE DUPLEX ANDING $3,000 TO PUT INSULATION AND STUFF IN IT AND THE LANDLORD HAS THE BENEFIT GOING FORWARD.

A 50/50 SPLIT AND A CONTRACTUAL UNDERSTANDING GOING FORWARD.

BENEFIT ALL THROUGH -- ALL THREE ENTITIES.

THE PERSON GIVING THE MONEY, TENANT AND THE LANDLORD.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT. COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED OF PUTTING MONEY INTO SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES AND THE LANDLORD SAYS, GREAT. NOW GET OUT.

I CAN GO CHARGE -- I CAN CHARGE DOUBLE THE MONEY AND WE ARE

LOOKING LIKE WE ARE HELPING -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT. YOU GOT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THE IDEA OF SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT AND SAYING, HEY, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

ONE COMPLAINT I HAVE GOTTEN ABOUT THE I CYST TANS THAT EVERYBODY HAS GIVEN THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE IS FOR SOME OF OUR WORKING FAMILIES THAT JUST FALL OR RUN AHEAD OF.

>> VERY CLOSE AND RIGHT ON THE LINE.

THEY ARE BEING TOLD NO. AND -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WORKING DOING EVERYTHING. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN -- I UNDERSTAND WHICH CAN'T HELP EVERYBODY.

I AM STILL TRYING, BUT IF WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT OR A WAY JUST TO PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY TRYING OR REALLY WORKING AND THEY GO STAND IN THIS LINE AND BE TOLD. YOU MAKE TOO MUCH -- YOU MAKE TOO MUCH AT YOUR MCDONALD'S JOB. I AM JUST -- I AM JUST TELLING -- YOU KNOW -- AND IT JUST -- IT IS JUST HEARTBREAKING.

SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

AND CITY MANAGER IF. USE YOUR BRAIN AND THOUGHTS AND EVERYTHING JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT AND REALLY TRYING TO WORK IT AND IF

WE CAN HELP THOSE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS, IF YOU ARE DOING IT THROUGH FEDERAL -- LIHEAP IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM, THEN YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW FEDERAL GUIDELINES.

AND SO -- MAYBE YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT WITH THE ARPA FUNDS, MAYBE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES TOO. NO THE FEDERAL FUNDS ORFPA

DOLLARS -- NO, YOU CAN'T? >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: FPRA IS ABOUT INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY WITHIN A CERTAIN BOUNDARY OF THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I AM NOT SUGGESTING IT.

I AM JUST SAYING SOMETHING OTHER THAN FEDERAL FUNDS, ALL RIGHT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SOMETHING OTHER THAN FEDERAL

FUNDS. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: LET ME DO THIS MADAM MAYOR TO PROTECT EVERYBODY UP HEREBY.

I AM NOT SUGGESTING -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: I KNOW YOU AREN'T. THAT -- THAT IS WHAT WE ARE UP

AGAINST. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT WE CAN PUT OUR COLLECTIVE MINDS TOGETHER TO TRY TO HELP THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE BEING TOLD NO AT THE TIME WHERE THEY NEED TO BE HELPED AND THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POW TO MAINTAIN A HOUSE HOLD AND

EVERYTHING ELSE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AND THEY ARE

WORKING. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: IF SOMEONE IS LISTENING AND HAS AN IDEA HOW TO HELP THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE A LOT OF FAMILIES IN THAT POSITION IS NOT READY EVEN ASKING FOR AN ENTIRE BILL TO BE PAID.

AND CAN YOU GET SOME TYPE OF WAY TO HELP US AND WE WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE. ONE THING I WILL LET YOU NNOMAD DAM MAYOR AND IF YOU ARE LISTENING, PEOPLE IN THE MORNING COMING HERE. T CALLS AL- THEY ARE STILL SITTING THERE AFRAID EVEN THOUGH WE TOLD THEM -- THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THESE DISCONNECTIONS ARE NOT HAPPENING.

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I THINK I HAVE GOT FOUR CALLS BY SITTING HERE THIS MORNING AND GOT THIS LETTER. I READ WHAT YOU POSTED THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. AM I GOING TO COME HOME TONIGHT AND MY POWER IS OUT? SO IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET THAT WORD OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ANOTHER PRESS RELEASE TO SAY HEY, THEY ARE NOT DOING IT. THEY ARE NOT DOING IT AND YOU JUST GET SOMEBODY. I SAW THE PRESS RELEASES THAT ARE SAYING THAT STARTING AUGUST 1.

TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY ELSE, WE NEED TO LET THESE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT ITS NO THE GOING TO CONTINUE ALL THE WAY THROUGH -- THROUGH DECEMBER. SO, YOU KNOW, PAY YOUR BILLS HOWEVER. WE ARE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS AS OF AUGUST 1. THEY ARE SERIOUS.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE.

BUT I GUESS WHAT HAPPENED IS BY THE TIME THAT DECISION WAS MADE, MAIL AND LETTER HAD ALREADY GONE OUT.

SO THEY WAKE UP THIS MORNING AND READ THE FACEBOOK POST FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE SAYING THIS IS HAPPENING AND THEY ARE BLOWING UP MY PHONE SAYING, HEY, I JUST GOT THIS LETTER.

YOU GUYS ARE PLAYING WITH OUR LIVES.

IT'S DISCONNECTING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T DO.

WE LEARN THIS DURING THE PANDEMIC IS IF WE GET A LETTER ABOUT THE UTILITY BILL YOU ARE PAST DUE OR WHATEVER, THEY DON'T CALL. THEY JUST SAY, OH, MY GOSH.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

ONE OF THE THINGS IF THEY PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL, THEY WILL GET THE CORRECT INFORMATION AND MANY TIMES PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO REACH OUT AND DO THAT. SO I WILL TAKE THAT TO HEART AND I UNDER STAND THAT SOME OF THE LETTERS CROSS.

THIS CAME OUT ON US. VERY SUDDENLY.

AND I AM GLAD THAT MR. SISNEROS WAS AT THE HELM BECAUSE HE MANAGE THE WHOLE PROCESS FOR FPUA DURING THE PANDEMIC.

HE HAS EXPERIENCE THIS KNEES KIND OF THINGS, JUST THAT WE

WERE BLINDSIDED. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: MY ONLY COMMENT IS I AGREE WITH WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN HERE.

WE HAVE GOT SOME FEDERAL MONIES PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOCATE FEDERAL MONIES AND INFUSE IT BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY ANY WAY WE CAN. THIS A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

I LIKE THAT. IN ADDITION TO THAT I WILL SAY THE SAME THING. IF FOLKS CAN CALL AND COMMUNICATE A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN GET THE RIGHT ANSWER AND DON'T WAIT FOR THE FACEBOOK FEED OR SOCIAL MEDIA FEED.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DON'T BE AFRAID TO CALL.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THAT IS WHY THE NUMBER IS THERE AND POSTED. CUSTOMER SERVICE -- IF YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, I PASS THOSE ON.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THEY VERY SLAMMED TO HANDLE IT.

THEY ARE TRYING TO HANDLE IT. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: THE PHONE CALLS -- IT IS OKAY TO PHONE CALL AND RESOLVE THE ISSUE. THE PHONE CALL WITH A COMPLAINT, OKAY, WE CAN ALL STAND IN LINE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

BUT LET'S JUST GET TO THE SOLUTION AND FIGURE IT OUT.

AND, OF COURSE, PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION ON SCREEN.

THAT'S ALL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION BY THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY, ALPY AND MUSTARD SEED, THEY ARE SLAMMED TOO AND SHARES THE RESPONSIBILITY AND HELP.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: MADAM MAYOR ARE AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS.

WE WILL FORMULATE THAT IN THE WAY OF AN AGENDA ITEM OR CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR ALLOCATION OF THESE FUNDS FOR A

CITY PROGRAM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GREAT.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT ITEMS IS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME.

WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME, FRANK.

>> FRANK CRAOFF. 4320 GATOR TRACE CIRCLE.

I HAVE A UP IF COUPLE OF THINGS ON MY MIND.

THE FIRST IS THE PLANNING BOARD. AS YOU KNOW I AM CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD. WE HAVE A SEAT THAT IS COMING FORWARD FOR RECONSIDERATION POSSIBLY ON THE PLANNING BOARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE SUITED FOR THE PLANNING BOARD.

AND I HAVE COME TO FIND OUT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT

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AND NOT TAKING A SHOT AT YOU SIR.

I HAD TWO ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB ON THE PLANNING BOARD. AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT ALSO HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. I AM HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE BREATHING THIS WEEK, SO FORGIVE ME, IF YOU WOULD.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY I REPRESENT ALSO WITH ANOTHER HAT HAS BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE COMMISSION HERE WITH LEGAL REPRESENTATION CONCERNING A PARTICULAR PROJECT MY CONCERN AND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN IS NOT ONLY REGARD THAT PROJECT AND THE OUTFLOW OF FORMWATER FROM THAT PROJECT, BUT THE OUTFLOW OF STORMWATER THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T FEEL THAT FOR MY RECENT RESEARCH -- I DON'T FEEL LIKE ALL OF OUR AGENCIES -- AND I AM NOT SPEAKING OF AGENCIES ONLY WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

BUT ALL OF THE AGENCIES INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION FULLY UNDER STAND NOT HOW WATER MOVES THROUGH FORT PIERCE OR WHY IT MOVES THROUGH FORT PIERCE, BUT THE CONDITION OF THE CREEKS, THE CAN CANALS THE MYSTERIOUS DITCHES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. WHAT CONDITIONS OF THOSE OUTFLOW AVENUES FOR FLOODWATERS, STORM WATERS ARE IN.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BROUGHT THE LEVEL OF CONCERN OF MINE AND MY ASSOCIATIONS TO TABLE TO BEGIN WITH WAS THE ADDITIONAL OUTFLOW OF WATER FROM A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT. AND THE CONDITION OF THE ARTERIES THAT ARE INTEND TO COLLECT THAT OUTFLOW OF WATER.

THERE WAS A COMMENT BY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ONE NIGHT THAT PERHAPS HE SHOULD DO A SITE VISIT AND TRY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE. I HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WHO CONTACTED ME WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO A SITE VISIT AND A MEETING SET UP TO DO THAT. AND I WILL GLADLY HOST THEN WHO WANTS TO COME TO GATOR TRACE. WANTS TO LEARN OF THE CONDITIONS AT GATOR TRACE, SURROUNDING GATOR TRACE.

I WILL BUY YOU LUNCH AT OUR WONDERFUL RESTAURANT AND PERHAPS YOU UTILIZE THAT RESTAURANT MORE IF YOU KNEW ABOUT IT.

>>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: UNDER $100 BUCKS, RIGHT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT WE WILL HAVE TO REPORT.

I WILL HOST ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND LEARN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE FLOODWATER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

AND PICKED MY BRAIN WHAT I LEARNED IN THE RESEARCH.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE OFFER.

ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON.

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

>> NEXT ITEM IS THE CITY COMMISSION BOARDS AND COMMITTEE

UPDATES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHO WOULD LIKE

TO VOLUNTEER TO GO FIRST. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I WILL GO, MADAM MAYO ARE. AND I WILL GO QUICK.

TOURISM COUNCIL. THAT WAS AN EASY MEETING.

TPO. ANOTHER THING ADD TO THE TPO.

WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND PLANS IN GENERAL IN FORECAST, BUT THERE WAS A DRONE CONVERSATION WHERE WE ARE GOING TO DO STUDY ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION AND OR THE EXPANSION OF DRONE ACTIVITY. IT IS WIDEREACHING BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HERE IN ADDITION TO THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY WANTING TO UTILIZE DRONE FOR DELIVERY SERVICES.

SO THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME CONVERSATION AND STUDIES DONE ON

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CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE ARE MEETING AT THE COLLEGE WHICH A GREAT FORMAT. REVIEWING THE BYLAWS WHERE THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE AN ACTUAL VOTE WITHIN.

I THINK I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE. NOT FINALIZED YET BUT STILL THERE. ALSO THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OF THE CHAMBER THAT WILL START DOING COFFEE WITH A COMMUNITY LEADER. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE GETTING AN INVITATION. SO MANY FOLKS AROUND THE BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL MAKE IT ALL THE WAY AROUND.

ANY GROUP AND THE OTHER FACT IS MAIN STREET DOING WELL, EXCEPT FOR I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST -- NICK, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, BUT I AM NOT SURE THE PROCEDURE AND FORMAT OF WHEN THE DISBURSEMENTS OF BOTH MAIN STREETS GO OUT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FORMULATE IT IF WE COULD EVEN IF WE WILL HAVE A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION, THAT IT IS STRUCTURED AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY QUARTER. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO YOU IT IS COMING, WHEN IT IS COMING. OUR FISCAL YEAR, WE WAIT FOR THE GRANT MUFFINS. THAT'S HOW WE DISBURSE THAT.

AFTER OCTOBER 1, WHICH MEANS NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND I AM LOOKING BACK AT CHECKS WHEN THEY WERE RECEIVED AND WHEN THEY WERE CUT. AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY QUARTER. I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST OF THE FISCAL YEAR BEING A LITTLE DELAYED BUT IF WE CAN DO IT ROUTINE AND CONSISTENT. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE ENTERING.

WE ARE IN AUGUST AND WE ARE AT THE LAST -- THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR US. NICE IF IT IS CHECKED OFF AND CUT. NOT WAITING TO NOVEMBER.

THE STRAIN AND STRESS FOR LAST TWO YEARS, GREAT FOR BOTH MAIN STREETS AND I CAN'T THINK ON BEHALF OF LYNN CAN PARK.

I IMAGINE SAME SCENARIO AND CUT THE CHECK.

IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY, MAYBE? >> THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

THESE ARE A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH RECEIVING THOSE ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING AND WE HAVE ADVANCED FUNDING IN THE PAST AND I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR FINANCE FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THAT IS APPROPRIATE. YOU ARE RIGHT.

THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR WE WAIT UNTIL THE FUNDS COME IN AND THAT SOMETIMES HAVE BEEN DECEMBER AND JANUARY SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK AND GET BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THAT REPORT.

>> THAT WILL BE GOOD. WE WILL PUT OUR -- OUR COMMENTS DOWN AS FAR AS GETTING OUR REPORTS DONE FROM THE MAIN STREETS. I AM SURE THEY WILL BE EXCITED TO HAVE FUNDINGS AND WRITE A REPORT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER GAINES, YOU WANT TO GO NEXT?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I CAN, MADAM MAYOR.

THE COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WE MET AND I WAS TOLD I MISSED GREAT FOOD AT THE PICNIC.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU DID. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: GREAT FOOD AT THE PICNIC AND I TOLD THEM -- I WAS IN AN EIGHT-HOUR DEPOSITION AND EVERY TIME I ASKED A QUESTION, I WAS THINKING

ABOUT -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: THE PRIME RIB?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: WE MET LAST WEEK AND THE MAJOR DISCUSSION WAS THE HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ATTAINMENT HOUSING IN OUR AREA AND WE HAVE AGREED A MAJOR ISSUE FOR ALL OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND WE HAVE INVITED OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO COME IN AND AT THAT YOU CAN TO US AND PICKED THEIR BRAINS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THE ISSUES. AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES TALLAHASSEE SPEAKING TO US REGARDING WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE. REGARDING THIS ISSUE.

AND WE WILL TAKE IT FORWARD FROM THERE.

NEXT BOARD WAS RETIREMENT BOARD. I WON'T STILL COMMIS COMMISSIONER PEORONA'S THUNDER BUT WE MET FOR 13 MINUTES.

HANDLED THAT BUSINESS -- REMEMBER THAT MEETING.

HANDLED OUR BUSINESS. DID OUR AGENDA.

AND WE WERE OUT OF THERE. BUT, AGAIN, THE RETIREMENT BOARD -- I AM GLAD YOU GUYS PUT ME ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD.

IT IS VERY INTERESTING AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THE CERTIFICATION. I KIND OF UNDERSTAND 80% OF THE STUFF GOING ON JUST SITTING TLCH LISTENING.

I KIND OF UNDER STAND AND LEARNING A LOT ON THAT BOARD.

AND THAT BOARD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TO SECURE YOUR RETIREMENT.

THAT IS THE ONE THING I CAN PICK UP FROM GOING TO THAT MEETING

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COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> THE AUDITORS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE INVESTMENT PEOPLE.

>>COMMISSIONER PERONA: MONEY MAN MAN INJURIES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: WHEN THE MONEY MANAGERS WERE SITTING OUTSIDE AND HAD TO COULD AM AND SIT IN THE CHAIR AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. IT WAS INTERESTING AND THEY WANTED ANSWERS IF IT IS HERE AND NOT HERE, YOU NEED TO TELL US WHY IT IS NOT HERE. THEY WERE TURNING IN THE CHAIRS TRYING TO GET ANSWERS. THEY ARE THERE FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF FORT PIERCE. I WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN.

LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET. STILL DISCUSSING THAT SURVEY.

WE HAVE A MEETING THIS THURSDAY AND I PLAN TO SCALL IN ON THAT MEETING BECAUSE I WILL BE DOWN AT HOLLYWOOD FOR THE OTHER CONFERENCE AND I WILL CALL IN FOR THAT MEETING.

THE COUNCIL OF AGING DID NOT MEETHOLLYWOOD FOR THE OTHER CONFERENCE AND I WILL CALL IN FOR THAT MEETING.

THE COUNCIL OF AGING DID NOT MEET AND THE INITIAL HOMELESS TASK FORCE WE SUBMITTED OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IF THEY WILL MAKE THAT A PERMANENT BOARD OR NOT. IF THEY DO, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL HAVE ONE SPOT ON THE BOARD.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AFTER THAT REPORT.

WITH THAT, THAT IS MY COMMITTEE UPDATES.

ONLY OTHER THING I WILL SAY TO THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY. SCHOOL STARTS WEDNESDAY MORNING START PRACTICING TO SLOW DOWN NOW BECAUSE DARK IN THE MORNING AND HIGH SCHOOLERS HAVE TO BE THERE 7 -- WELL, I KNOW YOU ARE OUT OF IT NOW. 7:00 -- HE IS DONE.

7:00. SO LET'S JUST START TO SLOW DOWN NOW. AND IF YOU SEE A STOP SIGN ON A BUS, STOP, BECAUSE, MAYOR TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, I DON'T WANT ANY TRAGEDY LIKE THAT. KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL AND GET IN A CAR. MADAM MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO GLAD YOU ARE ENJOYING RETIREMENT BOARD.

IT WILL ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE THEM ENJOY WHAT THEY DO.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: A GOOD GROUP, MADAM MAYOR.

FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, THEY DON'T EXCLUDE AND PULL US TO THE SIDE. WE JUMP RIGHT IN.

YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. COMMISSIONER PERONA, THEY WILL CALL YOU OUT. COMMISSIONER GAINES, WHAT DO YOU

THINK. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU GOT TO PAY

ATTENTION. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEDICATION THAT THAT BOARD HAS PROTECTING THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE GATHERED AND EARNED THROUGH THE RIGHT INVESTMENTS FOR THE RETIREES OF FORT PIERCE.

AND TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE RETIREES COME IN AND HAVE A CONCERN THAT WE IMMEDIATELY TRY TO HELP THEM IF WE CAN.

NOT JUST LIP SERVICE. IT IS A GREAT BOARD AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON IT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS GREAT. I LIKE TO HEAR THAT.

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: I LIKE TO HEAR THAT TOO. AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON -- NOT JOHNSON -- GAINES, COMMISSIONER GAINES, IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAND THE BATON TO YOU. YOU PICK UP AND GO.

AND YOU ASK QUESTIONS AND YOU ARE NOT AFRAID.

I CAN TELL THAT YOU WE ARE KIND OF SPOILED IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT MEAN MUNICIPALITIES, MANY YEARS BUDGET TOWN HAVE TO SIT THERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE GOING TO FUND THEIR RETIERNLTD PLAN FOR THE YEAR BECAUSE THEIR INVESTMENTS AREN'T DOING WELL AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF MOST MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT NOW SO WE WON'T DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO GO TO THE FPTTA TO BECOME CERTIFIED AND KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AND IT WILL RAISE YOU TO A WHOLE ANOTHER STANDARD I GUESS BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE LEAD THAT WHOLE GROUP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. ON OTHER COMMITTEES, THE FMEA.

WE HEARD -- JACOB WILLIAMS ACTUALLY CAME HERE AND TOLD US ALL THE THINGS THAT -- I WAS ON ZOOM FOR THAT.

I DID NOT ATTEND THE MEETING PERSONALLY BUT I WAS ON ZOOM.

AND I KNOW THAT FMPA WAS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO DO THIS.

SOMETHING IN JACOB WILLIAMS WHO IS THE CEO OF THE FMEA.

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IS KIND OF TOUGH. >>MAYOR HUDSON: HE DOES IT IN A

VERY NICE WAY. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: HE DOES IT IN A VERY NICE WAY, BUT YOU CAN TELL HE IS TOTALLY IMMERSED INTO THIS ISSUE AND TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

SO I AM HAPPY THAT HE IS ON OUR SIDE AND WORKING THAT WAY LET ME GO DOWN THERE. THE SUNRISE -- I DO MY SUNRISE COMMITTEES RIGHT NOW. MY SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY.

I WILL SAY VERY PROUD OF PEGGY WHO SHOWED UP AND SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING. YOU KNOW WE ARE LIGHT NOW, THE CITY -- MR. MIMMS AND HIS STAFF HAVE RESPOND TO THE FINANCIAL DILEMMA THAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SUNRISE HUMANE SOCIETY, AND A LOT OF THAT IS CAUSED BY COVID AND A LOT OF THE ISSUES GOING FORWARD AND FUND RAISING HAS BEEN LIMITED.

STAFF HAS RESPONDED AND PEGGY AREZ OF HOW WE WILL PARTNER WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER TO GO FORWARD AND FUND RAISE AND DO THE RIGHT TYPE OF THINGS PLUS WHATEVER THE CITY CAN TO DO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENSES GOING FORWARD.

AND SHE DID AN EXCEL INCIDENT JOB.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY -- EXCELLENT JOB.

ON THESE LITTLE COMMITTEES THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ANY CONTROL EVEN IN THE BACKDROP OF COMPLETE FINANCIAL DOOM.

IT IS A DYNAMIC COMMITTEE. SHE DID A GOOD JOB OF ALLAYING FAVORS AND HOW THE RELATIONSHIP WILL WORK FOR BOTH OF US.

MY MEETINGS TOMORROW. I WILL TELL YOU HOW THAT ALL ENDS UP. BUT I WAS PROUD OF THE WAY SHE REPRESENTED THE CITY AND MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT.

SHE HAS A LOT OF SKILLS I DID NOT KNOW.

I THOUGHT YOU DID WRONG, YOU FINE THEM, AND YOU MOVE ON.

SKILLS IN THAT PERSON AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE OTHER SUNRISE THEATRE, WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW.

THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT. WE WILL TALK OF STRATEGIC PLAN A LITTLE BIT AND THE PFM REPORT FOR OCTOBER AND MAY.

WE WILL DISCUSS THAT TOMORROW. THIS IS A CRUCIAL TIME TO COME FORWARD WITH THAT AND I AM SURE SHARON INGLE WILL BE THERE TO REPORT WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE NEW SEASON.

SO THAT IS HAPPENING NOT ALL RETIREMENT MEETINGS GO ON FOR THREE HOURS. WE HAVE FOUR RETIREES.

THEY HAPPEN VERY RARELY AND GET READY FOR SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THERE AND BEING A PART OF THAT. IT MAKES ME FEEL REALLY GOOD THAT WE HAVE SUSTAINABILITY FROM THE COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND WHOEVER FILLS MY POSITION NEXT YEAR.

IT IS YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THEY GET UP TO SPEED QUICKLY AND CALL THEM OUT. MAKE SURE THEY DOE BECAUSE IT IS SOUTHERN IMPORTANT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT HANDLING $250 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS GOING FORWARD AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS -- UNDER FUNDING WHICH IS A BIG DEAL.

AND BASED -- SOME OF IT WE CAN CONTROL.

SOME OF IT WE CAN. AND INTERESTING TO KNOW YOUR PORTFOLIO IS OUT THERE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT MONEY MANAGERS AND IF THEY DON'T DO THAT FOR THREE, FOUR QUARTERS RECAN TALK NASTY ABOUT THEM AND REPLACE THEM IF THEY DON'T PICK IT UP AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DO. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I THINK THAT COVERS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I KNOW THERE IS A GUEST COMING TO THE SUN RISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND PART EVER THE SUNRISE'S EFFORTS TO CELEBRATE THEIR 100TH ANNIVERSARY.

I YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTEND THE MEETING. SHE ASKED WHERE IT WAS.

UPSTAIRS AT THE SUN RISE. >>COMMISSIONER PERONA: IF YOU TELL ME AFTER THE MEETING. I WILL FOLLOW UP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I APPRECIATE IT. PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHO ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CELEBRATE THEIR 100TH ANNIVERSARY AND THE SUNRISE THEATRE 100TH ANNIVERSARY.

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AND THAT IS THIS COMING WEEK. YOU HAVE TO BE THERE ON SATURDAY MORNING AND YOU HAVE TO VOTE. IT TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF. AND RARELY ANY CONTROVERSY.

I HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST. I THINK MAYBE CURTIS DID IT? JOB. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN BY CONSENSUS AGREE ON -- WE GOT TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT.

SO. >>COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON: I WILL BE GLAD TO DO IT. I WILL DO IT.

I WILL BE THERE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WILL TURN YOUR

NAME IN -- >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: IF NOT,

I WILL BE THERE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IF YOU WILL BE THERE SATURDAY MORNING I WILL TURN YOUR NAME IN.

YOU GET TO VOTE FOR JOL JOLENE CARBALLO FOR PRESIDENT AND SOME OTHER THINGS -- RARELY ANY CONTROVERSY.

A VERY EASY JOB. SO THAT'S THAT.

AND -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE FPUA, AND WE ALSO -- THE TREASURE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES A BREAKFAST SATURDAY MORNING AND INVITATION IF THAT IS YOUR CONFERENCE.

SO I HAD DOWN HERE AUGUST 18, DIRECTOR IS HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE FROM 5:30 UNTIL 7:30. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE GOTTEN OFFICIAL -- AND ADVERTISED THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

CELEBRATING 75TH ANNIVERSARY AS A COMPANY OBVIOUSLY NOT IN FORT PIERCE. SO I THINK THAT IS ALL OF MY COMMITTEES EXCEPT THAT I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT EARLY VOTING STARTS ON AUGUST 13 AND GOES THROUGH AUGUST 20 AND THEN, AGAIN, ELECTION DAY IS AUGUST 23.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD MAKE SURE THEY VOTED IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY VOTED ABSENTEE. WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE, SHALL WE ADJOURN? WE WILL

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