Aug 08, 2022 Planning Board

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> WE WILL OPEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AUGUST 8. IF THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO EXIT. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO BUY ANY

STRETCH. >> DOES THAT MEAN I CAN GO?>> NO, THE BOARD IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE STATEMENT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY DEVICES THAT MIGHTRING , SING TO US, PLAY ANY KIND OF MUSIC, PLEASE TURN THEM OFF OR SILENCE THEM.

IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU.

CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >> MR. BURGE?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MR. ALBERT YOU?

>> YES. >> MS. CLEMENS?

>> PRESENT. >> MS. BAKER?

>> PRESENT. >> CHAIRMAN?

>> PRESENT. WE HAVE NO ABSENTEES TO

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE

MINUTES. >> SECOND.

>> CALLED THE ROLE PLEASE. >> MR. BRODERICK?

>> YES. >> MS. CLEMENS?

>> YES. >> MR. EDWARDS?

>> MS. BAKER? >> CHAIRMAN?

>> YES. FOR THE AUDIENCE BENEFITS, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES WAS FOR JULY 13 2022.

[a. Future Land Use Map Amendment - Kings Highway Commerce Center - Parcel ID: 2313-331-0000-000-4 ]

MR. GILMORE WILL BE PRESENTING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS PLANNING SHARE. THIS IS A MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT OR NEAR JUST SOUTH OF GRAHAM ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET EAST OF SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 19.29 ACRES.

IT CURRENTLY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF RL, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE IS GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THERE IS A MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION AND ALSO WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY I .

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125 Ã136. THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF THE

PROPOSED AMENDMENT.HANK YOU. >> I WILL OPEN THE DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FOR

MR. GILMORE? >> GUYS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERHEAD SHOT? BACK ONE MORE.

THIS PARCEL OBVIOUSLY IS ONE PARCEL FROM SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY AND IS GOING TO BE, IT IS CLOSE TO A 20 ACRE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT SITE. WHAT IS THE ROAD ACCESS THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PRINCIPAL? IS THIS FURTHER IN TODAY'S APPROVALS? DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS SITE PLAN ACCESS, ROAD SITUATIONS ETC.? OR DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT NOW?

>> AS FAR AS SITE PLAN? THIS SIMPLY THE FUTURE LAND US . A SITE PLAN WILL BECOME FURTHER BUT NOT FOR THIS PLANNING BOARD MEETING.

>> LET ME ROLL IT BACK THEN. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN BASICALLY AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND IS THE ROAD ACCESS SUFFICIENT COMING IN ON GRAHAM ROAD OR WHITE ROAD FOR 20 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS GOING TO BE WHAT I ASSUME QUITE A NUMBER OF VEHICLE, BOX TRUCKS ETC. 20 HEAVY TRAFFIC. AT THE CONSIDERED SIDE ROADS OR PRIMARY TO SERVICE THE TYPE OF NEED?

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>> IF I COULD SHARE, THE QUESTIONS YOU ARE ASKING ARE VERY RELEVANT. THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE OBVIOUSLY JUST LOOKING AT THE CHANGE ON THE MAP AND THE APPLICATION OF DOING THAT. IN FUTURE, WE WILL GET A SITE PLAN RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC USE ON THE SITE AT THAT TIME.

THE RAILWAY NETWORK AND VOLUME OF TRAFFIC EXPECTED ON THE STREETS AND THE CAPACITY OF THE STREETS TO HANDLE THAT WILL BE FULLY ANALYZED AND BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.

BUT IT IS A ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FIGURED OUT.

>> CLEARLY. 20 ACRES OF COMMERCE ENTER WHICH I WILL ASSUME IS MULTIUNIT OWN SPACE IS GOING TO BE BUSY. NOT EVEN SURE HOW MANY SQUARE FEET THERE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING BUT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY COMMERCE PARK IS 110,000 FT.B2, THEY GENERATE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, 18 WHEELERS, BOX TRUCKS, ETC. THIS PARTICULAR AREA WILL BE THE CONTEXT OF WHICH IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY CONTRACTORS, ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS, HVAC CONTRACTORS BECAUSE THE Z AXIS XCV ON THE TURNPIKE SPIRIT IS A CONCERN. YOU HAVE NO ACCESS THE SIDE

ROADS. >> MR. CHAIR?

>> IS TO FINISH THAT THOUGHT THOUGH, WHEN LOOKING AT DOING THE ZONING CHANGE NOW, I'M NOT ASKING THIS IS A QUESTION, THI IS A RHETORICAL QUESTION . ARE WE GET IN AHEAD OF OURSELVES WITHOUT KNOWING IF THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED BY THE ARTERIES THAT WE HAVE PRESENT.

THAT IS THE REASON I BRING GETTING ITUP NOW .

IF WE DO THE ZONING CHANGE AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE SITE PLAN, HOW YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING THE TRAFFIC TO THAT SITE AND CREATING AN ADDITIONAL ISSUE THAT WILL PUT THE STRESS ON THIS BOARD OR SHOULD THE APPLICANT AFTER GOING TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF SITE PLANS AND CREATION OF ALL THIS.

THAT IS THE REASON I BRING IT CURRENTLY, SORRY BOB.

>> NOW, I WANT TO FURTHER THIS QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT.

AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS EXHIBIT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, I NOTICED THE LEFT THERE WERE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS AN EASEMENT IN BETWEEN, IS THAT A EASEMENT ? LIKES IT IS NOT AN EASEMENT.

>> IS THAT ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY OR THREE PIECES?

>> THREE PIECES OF PROPERTY. >> OH MY GOODNESS.

>> THREE? THAT LITTLE PIECE IS NOT AN

EASEMENT?>> NO. >> THAT IS OWNED BY WHOEVER IS

UP THERE? >> CORRECTED.

>> THAT ILLUMINATE THAT QUESTION.

>> I ASSUMED THAT WAS AN EASEMENT AS WELL.

>> THAT IS WHY I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION TO HELP WITH THE QUESTIONING THAT MR. BRODERICK WAS TALKING ABOUT.

>> ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL LOOK AT THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

- - 20 ACRES AND DIDN'T COME TO THE MEETING.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? PLEASE? NO? OKAY, I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? >> YES, I THINK THAT AREA IN GENERAL WILL BE OVERGROWN WITH GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

ESPECIALLY WITH JENKINS ROAD BEING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO COME OFF OF I-95 AS WELL.

IT WILL JUST BE KINGS HIGHWAY, THAT ROAD GETS FLOODED.

JENKINS WILL BE ANOTHER ROAD. I THINK SWITCHING IT FROM LOW DENSITY TO GENERAL WOULD BE NOT IN THE FAVOR OF WHOEVERELSE WAS THERE . I DEFINITELY THINK IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THEIR VERSUS IT

IS BEING COMMERCIALIZED. >> ON THE WEST SIDE OF KINGS HIGHWAY, THAT IS PRESENTLY ON INDUSTRIAL PARK, IS IT NOT?

>> TO THE SOUTH. >> TO THE WEST AND SOUTH EAST

IS A COMMERCIAL. >> THEY ARE REDOING KINGS HIGHWAY AND ELEVATING IT. AND THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT,

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CORRECT? >> FOR KINGS.

>> HE GOES ALL THE WAY TO ST. LUCIE BOULEVARD.

>> OKAY. ALRIGHT.

THAT IS A FAIR POINT TO BRING UP ASK ONE QUESTION MR. CHAIR.

WHAT IS THE ADJACENT LOTS TO WHAT WILL BE THE EAST INTO THE WEST, WHAT ARE THE DESIGN CLASSIFICATIONS OF THOSE? THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO KINGS HIGHWAY.

>> ADJACENT TO KINGS HIGHWAY? >> THE ONES TO THE EAST OF THIS PARCEL IS A PART OF THESAME PROJECT .

THEY ARE COMING IN FOR ANNEXATION WITH THE SAME FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING. THE ONE THAT IS AT THE CORNER OF KINGS HIGHWAY. THE THREE PARCELS.

>> THAT WHOLE TRACK IS COMING IN AS WELL?

>> AS AN ANNEXATION. >> IF THAT IS ANOTHER 20 ACRES,

GIVE OR TAKE? >> THAT ONE IS 15, ABOUT 20.

>> AND TO THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, EAST OR WEST, WHAT IS THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION? WE'RE JUMPING FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS NOT LIKE IT IS A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TRADE-OFF SCENARIO TO COMMERCIAL. WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE?

>> I HAVE TO PULL IT UP. >> ALMOST 35 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS PRETTY INTENSE.

>> IT IS A ARE ONE ACTUALLY. WHICH ISAGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL . I DO HAVE IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SO IN ESSENCE, WE ARE GOING FOR THE LOWEST DENSITY ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO ONE OF THE HIGHER? SO THAT LAW WOULD HAVE TO COME IN FOR A FUTURE LAND USE

AMENDMENT AS WELL. >> CORRECT.

IT IS AR ÃONE. >> DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT, BUT WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF THIS?

>> I THINK HE NEEDS A WIDER ANALYSIS OF THE WHOLE AREA.

WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ALREADY IN THAT LOCATION . I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROADWAY NETWORKS IN THATAREA .

I THINK IT NEEDS MAY BE A HOLISTIC OVERVIEW OF THE CAPACITY AND THE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED.

>> FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT? >> INCLUDING THIS SITE BUT ALSO

ADJACENT PROPERTIES. >> I WILL SAY THAT THE THREE PARCELS TO THE LIST ARE IN THE COUNTY CURRENTLY BUT THEY ARE

COMMERCIAL. >> THERE IS AN ONGOING MOVEMENT PATTERN OF COMMERCIAL AND THIS LOCATION.

IT IS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT WE ARE SEEING THIS COMING IN. IT IS A CENTER WE WILL SEE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. SPINOFF BENNETT BUSINESSES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, THE CONGLOMERATION OF THAT ACTIVITY IS AN ECONOMIC BYPRODUCT OF WANT TO START TO GET COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. OTHER BUSINESSES WANT TO BE LOCATED CLOSE TO THEIR SUPPLIERS OR THEIR CUSTOMERS IF THEY ARE A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS ENTITY.

>> A LOT OF GREAT DEAL OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON AND

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NEIGHBORHOOD BASICALLY. >> EXCUSE ME, ONE WAS THIS

PARCEL AND NEXT? >> 2006.

>> AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT WITHOUT THE FACT THAT PARCEL WAS ALREADY ANNEXED, THE OTHER NEW ANNEXATION COMING IN WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE? WAS THAT THE CONNECTING PARCEL?

>> THE ANNEXATION THAT WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON YET?

>> THE ONES THAT ARE SCHEDULED NOW UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

>> IS THAT THE PARCEL THAT IS PARALLELING THE THREE PARCELS WHICH IS IN FRONT OF THIS PARCEL?

>>CORRECT . >> SO THEY ARE COMING IN FOR ANNEXATION NOW OF THIS NEXT PARCEL.

>> IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THAT MEANS THE ACCESS WILL BE OFF O

KINGS HIGHWAY . >> PROBABLY.

THAT IS WHAT I WOULD DO I GUESS.

DOES THAT CHANGE THE COMPLEXION OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY AND ACTIVITY IN THIS AREA?

>> NO, IT IS NOT. >> WOULD CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS CABIN IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY FOR COMMERCIAL AND THIS

PARTICULAR AREA? >> WHAT I AM OBSERVING IN THIS AREA IS THIS MOVEMENT TOWARDS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

MAY BE AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THAT.

IT'S CLOSE TO REGIONAL CONNECTEDNESS.

THE CITY IS LOOKING TO PROVIDE AREAS WHERE WE CANACCOMMODATE JOBS AND ACTIVITIES . IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AS MORE OF A COORDINATED EFFORT, THEN I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OFITSELF AND ITS PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD .

A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HEADS AT THE MOMENT I THINK WOULD BE ANSWERED.

>> APPROACHED THE SIDE, IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME SORT OF

TRAFFIC STUDY? >> YES.

>> NO YOU KNOW THE IMPACTS THE VIOLENCE OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC

IN AND OUT OF THE SITE? >> YES.

>> I DO SHARE THE OPINION THAT THE AREA IS MOVING TOWARDS MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE COURT ORDER IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE FOR THAT. WE HAVE ANOTHER 400 UNITS COMING IN ON JENKINS ROAD OFF OF RESIDENTIAL APPROVAL.

>> IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THERE WON'T EVEN BE A STUDY DONE UNTIL 2026 . WHICH IS A LITTLE LATE IN MY OPINION. WE SIMPLY HAVE NO INFORMATION TO WORK OFF OF I UNDERSTAND THE PIVOT THAT THIS AREA IS TAKING CLEARLY TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ADJACENT TO 95 IN THE TURNPIKE IS WHERE WE WANT THIS TO BE.HOWEVER, THE INTRODUCTION WILL BE VERY PROBLEMATIC AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

>> IN ADDITION TO THE STUDIES THAT HAVE ARTIE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY TRAFFIC, I THINK IF WE ARE TURNING WHOLE BIG SECTION OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL, THERE SHOULD BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT COVERING THE WHOLE AREA INVOLVES AND SEE HOW IT IS GOING TO AFFECT NOT ONLY THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS THERE FOR SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENTS. I WOULD RATHER NOT DO THINGS PIECE MAIL AND NOT HAVE ANY COHESIVE OVERALL PLAN FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHOLE AREA.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM ANNEXING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TO THE CIT

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THINK WOULD BE A BIG MISTAKE. >> I WAS ON TO SAY, IF YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED 95 ON THE TURNPIKE, THE TURNPIKE ALONE, TRYING TO GET ON THE TURNPIKE WITH TRUCKS, TRUCKS, TRUCKS.

THAT LITTLE GAP IS NEVER GOING TO EXPAND.

YOU CANNOT DO NOTHING WITH THAT.

TAKING PETERS ROAD WILL NOT ALLEVIATE ANYTHING AT ALL EITHER. WE HAVE 95 FROM ORANGE AND 95 FROM OKEECHOBEE THERE IS NO WAY TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC.

KINGS HIGHWAY IS BEING EXPANDED, BUT THAT LITTLE PATTERN YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH.

IT TRULY NEEDS REWORKING, BUT IT CANNOT BE.

>> WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT GLOBALLY? BOTH TRACTS OF LAND COME AS YOU ARE SUGGESTING MASSIVELY VERSUS ONE PIECE AT A TIME, IF THEY ANTICIPATE ANNEXING IN AND THE SECOND PIECE, CORRECT?

>> THE SECOND PIECE IS THREE PARCELS TO THE WEST.

>> WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO DEFER THIS DECISION AND NOT TO PULL IT DOWN? I WILL SEE ATTENTIVELY ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IS IT LIKE TO MAKE SENSE?

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS KEVIN, IF WE WERE TO TABLE THIS ITEM, PARTICULARLY THIS ITEM, AND YOU WANTED TO DO AN OVERVIEW STUDY, IS IT REALISTIC TO THINK, I MEAN NEXT MONTH WE EVALUATE THIS ITEM IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE KEEP IT ON THE TABLE OR BRING A BACKUP FOR DECISION. IN 30 DAYS, YOU WON'T GET A

STUDY DONE. >> AT THAT TIME HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING NOW. IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THAT THESE PIECES WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER.

>> IF WE DENY IT, WE DENY IT. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT. PERHAPS TABLING IT SENDS THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE APPLICANT THAT PERHAPS THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO TAKE HIS TIME TO COME IN AND VISIT WITH US.

>> WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE APPLICANTS TO COME IN WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR IMPACT OF THE PROPOSAL.

>> YES, YOU GUYS ARE COMING IN AND ASKING US TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE 20 ACRE PARCEL OF PROPERTY THAT WILL BE A MAJOR COMMON CENTER AND YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND TALKING WITH US. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THAT, I

THINK YOU COULD TELL. >> WE ARE NOT EVEN CREATING A DELAYED HERE. THEY NEED TO BRING IN A SECOND PARCEL. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF DELAY FOR THE SAKE OF DELAY, BUT IN THIS CASE THAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN.

THE SECOND PARCEL SONNY TO COME IN AND BE ADDRESSED.

WE ARE NOT CREATING ANY DELAY IN THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO GET THE ANSWERS THAT THIS BOARD IS ASKING FOR SO JOINTLY, WE ARE NOT CAUSING A DELAY AND SIMPLY REQUESTINGADDITIONAL INFORMATION .

IF WE ARE GOING TO DEFER THIS, IT BRINGS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING A SECOND PARCEL FOR ANNEXATION A SECOND TIME.

WE LOOK AT THE PARCEL AND ITS ENTIRETY.

ON TO STRESS THE POINT - - THE SAME TIMELINE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. >> I THINK WITH THE BOARD IS DOING, IS TAKING A STEP BACK FOR A MOMENT RATHER THAN GOING TOWARD THE DENIAL WHICH CAN COME OUT OF THIS.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE THING TO DO.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY DENIAL. >> I THINK THE BOARD IS REQUESTING MORE INFORMATION SO WE DON'T GET TO THAT POINT.

>> DO YOU HAVE REVISION THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THAT MIGHT BE USED TO REINFORCE A MOTION OF A TABLE ON THIS ITEM?

>> I WILL SUGGEST THAT THE BOARD MOVE FORWARD FOR CONTINUOUS THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING SUBJECT TO A REQUEST TO THE APPLICANT PROVIDING MORE DETAIL ON THE LIKELY TRAFFIC IMPACT AND THE ROADWAY NETWORK SYSTEM AND HOW

THEY WOULD ACCESS THAT SYSTEM. >> GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT

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>> YES BOB? >> I THINK THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US. I HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU MUST BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS? THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE 30 ACRES, IS THAT THE QUESTION BEING - -?

>> I DO NOT GET DOCUMENT. >> YOU CAN SEE I THINK IT IS.

IT'S A TRAFFIC STUDY BY A COMPANY CALLED ALL WORK, I BELIEVE THAT IS THE NAME OF IT. IT HAS TO DO WITH TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR THE KINGS ISLAND CONCURRENCY REPAIRED IN JUNE 22 OF 2022. IT DOES TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS. FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO READ IN YOUR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT ACCESS TO THE PARK IS GOING TO BE. IT DOES TALK ABOUT 34 ACRES AND SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT, SUMMARY OF EXISTING LIENS, OF TRAFFIC VOLUME. IT'S A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY.

I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY QUESTION.

>> SORRY, WE DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE NOW.

>> I DEFINITELY THINK THE APPLICANT CAN - - PLANNING

BOARD.>> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I DO, I WILL REOPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND ALLOW THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO SPEAK TO US. YOU MUST HAVE COME IN AFTER I CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

I KNOW TRAFFIC HERE IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE CAN GET VERY DIFFICULT TO NEGOTIATE AT TIMES.> I APOLOGIZE, SUSAN O'ROURKE OF O'ROURKE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF STUDIES, THE QUARTER IS CHANGING AND WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND F. TO CREATE A NETWORK OF STREETS - - WE HAVE A CALCULATOR OUT AND WE ARE ASSESSING THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF US DOING SO MUCH OF THE WORK IN THE CORRIDOR, WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

THE REQUIREMENT IS TO LOOK AT APPROVED PROJECTS.

WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PENDING PROJECTS, WE DO NOT WANT TO PRETEND THAT THEY ARE NOT HAPPENING.

THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE SAME APPLICANT THAT IS SOUTH OF GRAHAM. GRAHAM IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS A PART OF THE PROJECT TO THE SOUTH.

WE HAVE BONDED THE SIGNAL AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING AND AHAM AND KINGS HIGHWAY.

THE WEST IS THE COUNTY'S PARCEL.

GRAHAM WILL EXTEND TO THE WEST A LITTLE BIT, THERE IS AN APPLICANT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

THERE ARE LEFT! , BUT THERE ARE COUPLE OF OTHER PARCEL THAT ARE DOING LOWER DENSITY SELF-SERVE WAREHOUSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE VERY LOW TRAFFIC.

ALONG PETERSON FURTHER NORTH ALONG THE EXTENSION OF PETERS AND GRAHAM, WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO PUT THAT NETWORK OF STREETS. CEDAR POINT RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTRAINT IN THE AREA.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THE PATTERN MAY NOT REFLECT WHEN IT IS ALL DONE. THE STATE IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE THAT BIG SECTION OF OKEECHOBEE WITH EIGHT LANES, WE CANNOT REALIZE THE BENEFIT OF THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION AT KINGS AND OKEECHOBEE, CONSTRUCTION AT KINGS AND ORANGEBURG WE ARE ALWAYS DOING DETAILS IN THAT AREA.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE EVERYONE WORKING TOGETHER WITH ALL THE APPLICANT AND GETTING SOME ROADS BUILT NOW.

I DO THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT NETWORK THAT WILL ALLOW ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE INTERNAL PARCEL TO CONNECT WITHOUT GETTING ON KINGS AND 95, I THINK YOU WILL SEE AN OVERALL IMPROVEMENT IN THE AREA AND ALL THESE THINGS GET DONE.

AS TO THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE DONE THAT.

WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE DOT ON THE FINAL ACCESS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS IN CONCERT AND BECAUSE KINGS HIGHWAY WAS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE LIMITED TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE OUR ACCESS. WE HAVE TO TIME SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY PROPOSED OR SHARING WITH AN ADJACENT APPLICANT.I

HOPE THAT HELPS TO SOME DEGREE. >> KINGS HIGHWAY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.I WOULD HOPE THAT THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS

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THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE PLAN TO DO ANYTHING TO JENKINS ROAD.

IF I WAS A TRUCK DRIVER AND NEEDED TO GET OUT OF DODGE AND I'M ALL BACKED UP ON KING, WHERE YOU THINK I'M GOING TO GO? I'M GOING TO GO TO JENKINS.

WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROJECT SITTING ON A TABLE RIGHT NOWALONG JENKINS ROAD .

>> THE COMPLETION OF PETERS FOR PETERS WILL BE IMPROVED TO A STANDARD CROSS-SECTION. RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT THERE, LITTLE BUT NOT THERE. THAT WILL BE IMPROVED BY THE SAME APPLICANT TO THE SOUTH AND DEVELOPER TO THE EAST OF PETERSBURG THAT IS TO SUPPORT THE TRUCKS WE HAVE AS A PART OF THE OTHER PROJECTS. THOSE TWO AFRICANS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO CONNECT THAT AND THAT COMES AT A CROSSROADS WHICH HAS ALLIES, CONNECT IMMEDIATELY TO THE TURNPIKE AND 95 WHICH WILL DECREASE THE OPPORTUNITY OR CHANCE THAT PEOPLE WOULD RATHER GO TO JENKINS WHERE IT WERE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THANKS CONGESTED FOR THE TIME BEING.

E ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND CITY ABOUT THE CONNECTION TO JENKINS AND IMPROVING THE GRAHAM AND JENKINSINTERSECTION . THAT IS A PART OF ANOTHER APPLICATION. YOUR STAFF AND THE COUNTY STAFF REALLY DO HAVE FINGERS ON THE PULSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL GETS PUT TOGETHER IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY. THEY'RE NOT LETTING US JUST COME IN AND LOOK AT OUR PROJECT, WE ARE HAVING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHINGUPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM AND WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS . I FORGOT ABOUT IT, WE ARE WORKING INCH TRYING TO GET CREDITS, BUT EVERYONE IS OF THE MINDSET THAT WE LIKE TO SEE THESE ROADS GET BUILT AND THAT IS HAVE EVERYTHING ON PAPER. I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT

PATH NOW. >> EXCUSE ME, ALONG WITH HER OTHER STUDIES, IS ANYONE DOING AN OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY?

>> THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, I DO NOT KNOW.

THE STATE, WHENEVER THE USE OF FEDERAL DOLLARS, WHEN THE USE OKEECHOBEE AND KINGS HIGHWAY, THEY HAD TO LOOK AT A LONG-TERM IMPACT. SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE NOT DOING

THAT.>> CHAIR, YOU COMMUNICATED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS RELATED TO THE PROPERTY OF THE SOUTH?

>> THE SOUTH OF GRAHAM. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WILL IT BE THE SAME OWNER? I DON'T KNOW.

IT IS MY SAME CLIENT. >> HAS THAT SICK CLIENT SECURED

APPROVAL? >> I BELIEVE SO.

IT IS WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL. >> IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW?

>> IF IT IS NOT, IT IS VERY CLOSE.

>> THE PARCEL THAT IS TODAY'S SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION AND THE ADDITIONAL PARCEL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE IS GOING TO BE?

>> IT IS A SIMILAR PRODUCT, THINK WE ARE 30%, WE WERE ORIGINALLY ASKING FOR A HIGHER DENSITY.

IT WAS SCALED-BACK BASED ON PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

SOMEWHERE IN THE .3. >> YOU KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT OFFHAND?

>> I WILL TELL YOU WILL BE LOOKED AFTER 34 ACRES.

WE HAVE GOT 102,000 ACRES. SORRY, 800,000 FT.B2 PERTHAT WA WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR LAND-USE .

THIS WOULD END UP BEING SOMEWHERE.

>> BIG BOX FOR PRINT? >> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WORST CASE AND WORST CASE IS A MULTISTORY OFFICE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANNEXATION.

AT 20 ACRES, YOU WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND HALF 1,000,000 FT.B2 AND AN ADDITIONAL 10 ACRE WOULD BE ANOTHER 250,000.

>> I DO NOT MOVE THE DECIMAL POINT, DID I?

>> WE WILL END UP SOMEWHERE AROUND SEVEN OR 50,000.

>> IS TYPICALLY THE BIG BOX? >> EVERYONE HOPEFULLY THE MORE INTENSE ONE BUT WE WILL BE PLANNING THOSE IN THE LARGE DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE. YOU WILL USUALLY HAVE A USER.

AMAZON TO THE NORTH WAS PLANNED THAT WAY.

>> I ACTUALLY TAKE MORE COMFORT IN THAT VERSUS SMALL 2000,

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ISSUES RELATED TO THEM. >> WE APPROVED HALF 1,000,000 FT.B2 IN VENICE BETWEEN ORANGE AVENUE AND 95? I AM JUST SAYING THAT ONE COUL .

>> THAT'S CONNECTED TO THIS PROPERTY, THAT IS KINGS HIGHWAY COMMERCE PARK IS WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF.

>> THIS TOPS OUT TO CLOSE TO 7 MILLION SQUARE FEET THAT WE IMPROVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

>> IT IS ALL TRUCK DRIVERS. TO THINK THAT WE'RE IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES GOING ON, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TRUCK TRAFFIC EAST ON GRAHAM ROAD TO A NEW AT JENKINS AND NORTH AND SOUTH ON JENKINS, JENKINS IS OVERLOADING NOW. WE ARE SAYING CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW AT GRAHAM ROAD ONTHE EAST SIDE OF JENKINS .

I STILL THINK THE TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR CONSIDERATION HERE.

I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT, MOST PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD A FEW MOMENTS AGO, SMALL CONVERSATION, EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THROUGH A LENS AT A PARTICULAR PROJECT RATHER THAN THE BIG PICTURE, AND KEVIN ALSO ALLUDED TO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOUARE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE BIG PICTURE . I KNOW HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION

TOO. >> I WOULD JUST SAY ONE LAST THING, THE PROCESS FOR STUDIES, THE STATE HAS HAD AN ONGOING STUDY ON KINGS HIGHWAY WHICH IS A VERY COMPETENT ANALYSIS THAT WORKS WITH YOUR NPO. YOUR MPO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

. THE LOOK AT FIVE YEARS AND 20 YEARS OUT. THAT MAKES AN ESTIMATE THAT KINGS HIGHWAY IS CONSIDERED A TRUCK CORRIDOR AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE BEING CHANGED FOR SPECIFIC USES, BUT KINGS HIGHWAY HAS BEEN DESIGNED FOR TRUCKS. OKEECHOBEE IS DESIGNED FOR TRUCKS, CROSSROADS IS DESIGNED FOR TRUCKS, PEERS WILL BE DESIGNED FOR TRUCKS. THE GRAHAM CONNECTION THAT I SPOKE UP TO JENKINS WITHOUT NECESSARILY FOR TRUCKS AND TRUCKS TEND TO GO IN THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE NEW FREEWAYS AND HIGHWAYS AND THE SIGNALS ARE ALL TIMED TO GET YOUR COMPUTER WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, JENKINS IS NOT GOING TO BE A POPULAR ALTERNATIVE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE WANT TAKE IT, BUT THAT SIGNAL I'M TALKING ABOUT AND THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INTERCONNECTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT EAST OF 95. THAT WAS KIND OF THE BREAK.

BY THE TIME YOU GET TO US AND INDIVIDUALS, WE ARE TAKING WHAT THE REGION HAS DONE, WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE AND FITTING OUR PEACE WITHIN IT AND SHOWING THAT WE ARE COMPLIANCE WITH IT AND MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THAT DATA THAT WOULD MAYBE CHANGE.

THEN WE GO BACK AND TALK TO THE COUNTY IN THE STATE.

EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF IT, WE'RE TIME TO THE DATA THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE PREPARED AND COMMUNICATING

WITH THEM WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. >> DO YOU KNOW THE TIMETABLE ON

KINGS HIGHWAY COMPLETION? >> THE PIECE RIGHT NOW SHOULD BE DONE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, PTHE FIRST SEGMENT.

THEN THERE WAS JUST KEEP MARCHING NORTH.

ORANGE AND KINGS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SHOULD BE DONE IN THE YEAR. THEN YOU GO NORTH AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, LOOKING AT 2026 FOR THE NEXT PIECE.

IT IS ALWAYS CHANGING, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT THEY AREOUT THERE NOW . THE ENDING IS INSIGHTS.

WE'RE TALKING TO THEM BECAUSE THE PLANE ARE SOMEWHAT OLDER, THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON NOW THAT WE ARE COORDINATING WITH THEM ON POTENTIAL CHANGES BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN STARTED

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I KNOW YOU MAY NOT SEE IT, BUT I FEEL VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I FILE FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER. THERE'S A VERY GOOD SENSE OF COORDINATION WITH THE FOLKS AT FDO T. WE MEET ALMOST WEEKLY BRAD IS HERE AND LEAVE. WE HAVE COUNTY ENGINEERING, CITY STAFF, F DOT. WE ARE ALL TALKING.IF WE MAKE A CHANGE, INSTEAD OF IT HAPPENING, IT IS ALL BEING COORDINATED. I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD.

I KNOW IT IS NOT PERFECT AND PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT THERE.

I DO THINK THAT THE PRACTITIONERS ON THE GROUND ARE REALLY DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF NOT ONLY KEEPING PACE BUT FORWARD THINKING AND PUTTING THE NETWORK THAT HAS BEEN ON PLAN FOR 20 TO 30 YEARS AND HOLDING PEOPLE'S FEET TO THE FIRE TO BUILD THOSE PIECES OF THE NETWORK.

YOU'RE GETTING DOT DOING THAT REGIONAL STRUCTURE AND THE LOCALS PUTTING ALL THE INTERNAL NETWORK INTO A PLACE.

YOU CAN LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY ARE LIMITING THOSE THINGS AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB.

I KNOW I'M THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT.

>> REALLY? I COULDN'T TELL.

>> I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 35 YEARS.

I ALWAYS SAY, DON'T GIVE ME BUSYWORK.

>> DID YOU START AT 10 YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING?

[LAUGHTER]. >> I HAVE A QUESTION RELATIVE, YOU ARE INDICATING THAT THERE IS MORE OF A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE TAKING PLACE IN THAT VICINITY. WE ARE BEING INFORMED BY THE COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY IS ANTICIPATING DOING A STUDY OF JENKINS UNTIL FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.

BY THAT POINT IN TIME, ALL THE STUFF IS OUT OF THE GROUND.

>> WHEN WE COME IN, WE GET A LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY PROJECT THAT IS IN THE PIPELINE.WE PRESENT THAT AND WE MEET ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS WITH WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING AROUND US UP TO A COUPLE OF MILES. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE DRIVEWAY. WE ARE HAVING TO EVALUATE ALL OF THAT. SOME OF IT WILL BE FURTHER BEHIND, THAT IS JUST THE PROCESS.

JENKINS ROAD HAS BEEN A PLAN FOR SO LONG THAT IT IS BEING REPLANTED THREE TIMES AS I'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS.

AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY WILL GET SERIOUS ABOUT PICKING WHAT

IT WANTS TO BE AND BUILDING IT. >> MY HAIR WAS BROWN WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT JENKINS ROAD.

>> I THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS TIME.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT THERE AND IT IS GETTING UP ADJACENT TO IT, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS.

>> DID YOU HAVE YOUR FINGERPRINTS ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON THE COUNTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF JENKINS ROAD?

SOUTH OF ORANGE? >> LOVES TRAVEL STOP?

>> THIS WOULD BE SIZABLE? >> WEST OF JENKINS AND SOUTH OF

ORANGE? >> WEST OF KING, SOUTH OF

ORANGEBURG THAT INTERSECTION. >> SO THE WAWA AND OUT PARCEL AROUND THE CORNER AND SURROUNDING THAT IS A STILL WANT. WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH AMAZON OR AMAZON LIKE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY AMAZON.

IT WAS AT A CROSSROADS, THAT AMAZON PIECE.

THAT ACTIVITY IS MOVING UP TO A PROPER FACILITY ONKINGS HIGHWAY . THAT DEVELOPMENT IS THERE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH ANOTHER APPLICANT, WHICH I DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS IN YET, SOUTH OF THAT. WE DID THE TRAVEL STOP ORIGINALLY AND PUSHED THAT ACCESS DOWN WAY BACK THEN.

WHEN THESE PEOPLE CAME IN EVENTUALLY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TIE THEM ALL IN. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DOT AND COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT 10 TO 15 YEARS LATER, THAT ACCESS IS NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

WE HAVE 3 TO 4 DEVELOPMENT AT ONE INTERSECTION.

ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.

>> NOT A PROBLEM. >> I THINK IN REGARD TO THE QUESTION MS. BAKER, THE MEMBER THE STUDY? AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY WAS DON .

AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT FROM EW CONSULTANT .

MY BRIEF OVERVIEW IS EMPTY LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE.

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THERE IS NO GOAL FOR TURTLES. >> WE HAVE THAT GOING FOR US.

>> MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, AN INDUSTRIAL HUB WHICH IS A PRIMARY ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY.

I WISH WE HAD A MASTER PLAN TO DEAL WITH THIS IS THAT OF A PIECE BY PIECE BASIS FROM US IN APPROVING THESE THINGS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO FOR OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY OF 7,000,000 FT.B2. NOT 7 MILLION PREVIOUS SQUARES - - INDUSTRIAL CITY. ASHER SOMEONE AT THE PLANNING BOARD WILL TAKE A LOOK AT ULTIMATELY HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE AT AVERY UNIQUE CROSSROADS HERE .

FOR SOME REASON, AND I THINK IT IS INTERSECTIONS OF THE HIGHWAY, JUMP OFF POINT TO MIAMI, THE GROUP DISTRIBUTION CENTERS HAVE TARGETED THIS AREA TO ACCUMULATE REAL ESTATE LOOK AT A QUARTER MILLION, HALF A MILLION, 1,000,000 FT.B2 BUILDING WHICH NEVER EXISTED HERE BEFORE.

PERSONALLY, I THINK IT IS A REMARKABLE OPPORTUNITY TO BRAND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS BEING A HUB FOR THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY. HOWEVER, WE NEED A MORE GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD. HE WANTS TO SEE THE SITE PLAN AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. HE WANTED TO THE CONNECTIVITY TO KINGS HIGHWAY ETC. TO ME, THAT IS THE BASIS OF THE DECISION. I CAN ALSO SUGGEST WAITING FOR THE OTHER PARCEL TO BE ANNEXED IN AS WE TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY BEFORE. THIS IS NOT ONE OR TWO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE EVERY OTHER MONTH NOW WE ARE GETTING THESE APPLICATIONS.THE LAND VALUE. YOU CANNOT GO TO MIAMI AND BY 35 ACRES OF LAND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY.

THAT IS WHY THIS IS BEING GOBBLED UP LIKE THIS THESE GUYS RUN IN THE PACK. ONE GUY MAKES A CLAIM HERE, THE FIRST ONE WAS 2,000,000 FT.B2 I MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT FOR THEM HALF 1,000,000 FT.B2 AND ANOTHE MILLION SQUARE FEET COMING IN.

I AM SUGGESTING TWO THINGS. ONE, IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THE HUB DEVELOPMEN .

WE ALMOST CREATING A WHOLE NEW CITY OUT THERE.OWEVER, I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE PLANNING WERE TO GET A MORE GLOBAL EFFECTIVE ON ALL THIS.

I THINK IT WILL CONTINUE. >> NO DOUBT.

>> I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THIS. I WANT TO CREATE ANY DELAY IN

THE PROCESSES. >> I'M HEARING THE LOUD AND CLEAR AND WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID AND HOW THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER THE OTHER SITES AND DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T HOLD AND STAGNATE THIS

LOCATION. >> ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE CITY YESTERDAY FOR THE ANNEXED PROPERTY INTO THIS AREA WOULD BE A PART OF THE PUZZLE IN PUTTING TOGETHER A MORE STRATEGIC ACTION BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER SAY.

>> SO WE ARE APPROVING ANNEXATION HERE AND I WILL WALK TO THE PAST THERE REQUESTED. THEY SOUGHT THE COMMENT AND CONVERT AR-1 COUNTY SO WE ARE NOT CREATING AN ISSUE HERE, CORRECT? ON THE OTHER PARCELS.

>> THE OTHER PARCEL IS ITEM 7A. IT IS ON THIS AGENDA.

>> ON FUTURE LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE - - >> IT IS ALL TAKING PLACE

SIMULTANEOUSLY. >> I STILL FEEL THAT THE TRIP ISSUE HERE, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A DELAY.

>> ITEM 7A, IF WE APPROVE THAT TODAY, THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO

US FOR A FUTURE LAND USE MAP. >> NO.

WHEN IT IS BEING ANNEXED, THE ANNEXATION WOULD GO TO COMPARABLE FUTURE LAND USE OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

WE ARE GOING TO CP ONE FOR THE PROPOSAL.

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>> I BELIEVE THEY DO HAVE THAT IN THE STARTING PROCESS FOR TRC BUT WE ARE NOT REALLY SURE WHEN THAT WILL COME TO THE PLANNING BOARD.IF THEY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL OUTSTANDING COMMENTS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO TRC BEFORE THEY COME TO

YOU GUYS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE TIMETABLE IS OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORK BEING DONE ON THE HIGHWAY SYSTEMS? AND POTENTIAL RED LIGHTS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS. I THINK THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FILL IN.

I DON'T KNOW THAT QUESTION IS WORTHY OF DELAYING THIS ACTION

OR NOT. >> I AM VERY MUCH ENCOURAGED BY THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE COORDINATION BETWEEN ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE.

I AM VERY GLAD THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH GOPHER HOLES.

THE STUDIES ARE ALREADY THERE, THEY JUST HAVE NOT BEEN PRESENTED TO US BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN A COHESIVE MANNE . THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED PRESENTED THE PLANS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE BIG PICTURE, EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS AVAILABLE.I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE - - IN ANY OF THESE TRANSACTIONS GOING FORWARD. IT'S LIKE A THING OF DOMINOES.

IF YOU PUSH ONE LITTLE THING, IT IS GOING TO HAVE A REBOUND EFFECT ON OTHER THINGS. IF WE DELAY THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT ON THIS ONE PARCEL, IT WILL AFFECT A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY.

I'M INCLINED TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT.

IT'S WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL PROVIDE US WITH THE MATERIALS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE

AVAILABLE, THANK YOU. >> OTHER COMMENTS?

>> I AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT. AS I HAVE STATED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOMETHING LARGE AFOOT HERE AND WE NEED A GRAND SCHEME UNDERSTANDING OF EVERYTHING AND THE INTERCONNECTIVITY AND HOW ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS MASHING TOGETHER.

I AGREE WITH MS. BAKER TOO TO GET IT GOING AND IN THE INTERIM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE ASKING A LOT BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW.

EVERY TIME HE COMES IN, WE GET ANOTHER ONE TODAY, WE NEED A BIGGER SCHEME. I AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT TO

MOVE IT FORWARD. >> IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MR. CHAIR, I WILL MAKE A MOTIONFOR APPROVAL .

>> SECOD. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BERG, SECOND BY MS. CLEMENTS FOR APPROVAL.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>.

[a. Annexations - Kings Highway Commerce Center - Parcel ID(s): 2313-333-0001-000-7, 2313-332-0000-000-7, and 2313-332-0000-010-0]

MR. GILMORE IS THE PRESENTER. >> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN MILLER.

[00:55:01]

THE SUBJECT PARCELS CURRENTLY HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE AS COMMERCIAL, ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE IS COMPARABLE TO OUR FUTURE LAND USE OF GENERAL PROPOSAL.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS AG ONE, WE DON'T HAVE AGRICULTURAL ZONING IN FORT PIERCE AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CP ONE, COMMERCIAL PARKWAY ZONE. APPROXIMATE 15.05 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION, AND MEET THE STAMPS OF THE COMPETENCY PLAN, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 1.11 REGARDING ANNEXATIONS.

IT ALLOWS FOR A RATIO OF 1.0, ST. LUCIE COUNTY DESIGNATION EVER COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR RATIO OF 1.0 AS WELL.

THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS CONSIDERED TO BE SUITABLE HAVE EXAMINE THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY, AS TOPOGRAPHY, SOIL AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

FOR THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION. PLANNING BOARD HAS THE FOLLOWING COMPARABLE POSSIBLE ACTIONS, APPROVAL AND DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MR. GILMORE?

>> CAN BE SURE THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION OVER AGAIN?

[LAUGHTER]. >> SUIT YOURSELF.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. BRODERICK ASKED WAS IF THE MEETING WAS GOING TO BE OVER WHEN OUR BOTTLE OF WATER WAS FINISHED TODAY. IT IS TOTALLY UP TOYOU NOW .

NO CONVERSATION? IWILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING . ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS ITEM? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND COME BACK. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I ACTUALLY HAD A COMMENT. TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, I THINK IT IS A LITTLE OFF, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ACQUIRE THE LAND FOR USAGE DID NOT SHOW UP TODAY. I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT.

>> NOTED. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BAKER

FOR APPROVAL, IS THAT CORRECT? >> A SECOND IT.

>> SECONDED BY MR. BURGE, CALLEDTHE ROLL PLEASE .

>>.

[b. Zoning Atlas Map Amendment - Kings Highway Commerce Center - Parcel ID: 2313-331-0000-000-4]

>> ITEM 7B. ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT KINGS HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL CENTER PARCELS 2313-331-0000-000-4.

I LEFT AT 80? ZERO.

[LAUGHTER]. MR. GILMORE IS THE PRESENTER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING CHAIR AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS A ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE PROPERTY NEAR GRAHAM ROAD AND 600 PE OF SOUTH KINGS HIGHWAY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 19.29 ACRES. CURRENT ZONING IS R1.

LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND PROPOSES EARNING IS SEE P1 WHICH IS COMMERCIAL ZONE. THE FUTURE LAND USE WHICH THE PLANNING BOARD JUST RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT TO GC, IT IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE CURRENT ZONING IS R1 AND PROPOSED ZONING IS CP ONE WHICH IS COMMERCIAL PARKWAY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

[01:00:05]

DISAPPROVAL. >> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE BY THE BOARD? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ANYONE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT? THAT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD ANY COMMENTS

OR QUESTIONS? >> APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> QUESTION, IS THERE APPROVAL WITH CHANGES OR WITHOUT CHANGES?

>> NO CHANGES. >> I HAVE ON PROMOTION OF APPROVAL WITH NO CHANGES . MS. BAKER AND SOMEONE OVER HERE SECONDED? CALL THE ROLE-PLAYS.

>>.

[c. Annexation- Canadian Corporation Rental Apartments- 3000 Virginia Avenue]

>> NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM 7C, ANNEXATION OF CANADIAN CORPORATE RENTAL APARTMENTS 3000 VIRGINIA AVENUE.

MR. - -? IT WILL TAKE ME MONTHS, BUT

TRUST ME, I WILL GET IT. >> I TRUST YOU.

>> ALRIGHT, MR. REAGAN WORKED FOR US HERE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS .

ABOUT THE TIME HE WAS RESIGNING TO SEEK OTHER EMPLOYMENT, I FINALLY GOT IT DOWN ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

SEE, I DIDN'T GET IT DOWN RIGHT, WHERE MY GOING TO DO?

>> I WAS WAITING. [LAUGHTER].

>> WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO PUT UP WITH THIS.

PUT MR. SMITH. >> WITH A NAME LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOUR NAME WOULD BE A PIECE OF CAKE.

I AM SORRY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN.

TODAY, I AM VISITING AN APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION BY THE CANADIAN CORPORATIONS FOR RENTAL APARTMENTS AT APPROXIMATELY 3000 VIRGINIA AVENUE.

HE WAS THE AERIAL MAP AND LOCATION, IT IS RIGHT WHERE OKEECHOBEE AND VIRGINIA MEET. RIGHT NOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY, IS COMMERCIAL IT IS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW TO BECOME GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE ZONING MAP CURRENTLY FOR THE PARCEL IS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY AS COMMERCIAL GENERAL IN THE PROPOSED CITY ZONING AS OF RIGHT NOW IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL C3.

I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE REQUESTING A REZONING, BUT THAT RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS PROPOSED, THE ANNEXATION MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, SPECIFICALLY POLICY SECTION 111 REGARDING ANNEXATIONS. PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER?

>> JUST ONE QUICK ONE. I ASSUME BY THE NAME CANADIAN CORPORATION RENTAL APARTMENT, IT IS GOING TO BE A RENTAL.

THAT IS THE TYPE OF HOUSING WE NEED HERE BADLY, THIS IS A GOOD

PROJECT. >> GREAT LOCATION TOO.

>> GREAT LOCATION. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING. ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. I WOULD ALWAYS LIKE THE

APPLICANT TO COME FIRST. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND BOARD.I AM LOGAN RON MEYER, I AM AN ATTORNEY WITH THE FIRM HERE IN FORT PIERCE. PWE ARE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT JEREMY MEARS AND HIS COMPANY THE BROWNSTONE GROUP, AN EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THIS PARCEL AND THE PARCEL IMMEDIATELY SOUTH UNDER CONTRACT.

THE SET PARCEL IMMEDIATELY SOUTH IS FORT PIERCE.

THEY ARE SEEKING TO BRING THE NORTHERN PARCEL INTO CONFORMANCE BEFORE COMING TO YOU ALL FOR FUTURE LAND USE,

[01:05:05]

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION, BUT I AM HERE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER.

>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE. WE ALWAYS LIKE THE APPLICANT TO

ATTEND OUR MEETINGS. >> ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> IF I CAN'T QUITE MAKE IT OUT, WHAT ARE THE ROAD TO THE EAST OF THE PUBLIC PROPERTY? WAS THAT 40TH STREET? AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT, IT BECOMES HARTMAN ROAD? OKAY.

>> YOU BEEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS?

I'M NOT SURPRISED. >> I COULDN'T WAIT TO MAKE IT

OUT. >> NOT HEARING ANYTHING NEW, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> FOR APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MS. CLEMENS, SECOND BY MR. AUBREY.

CALL THE ROLE-PLAYS. >>.

[d. Annexations - Millcreek - Parcel ID(s): 2407-131-0004-000-6, 2407-134-0001-000-4, 2407-144-0001-000-5 and 2408-233-0001-000-1]

THAT WAS BY ERROR. IT WAS CORRECTED THIS MORNING EARLY I BELIEVE. I SPOKE WITH MISS EARLY OUR CITY ATTORNEY, NOT EARLY IN THE MORNING.

I SPOKE WITH MS. EARLY AND IT WAS EARLY.

SHE CONFIRMED THAT SHE SAW NO ISSUE WITH US MOVING FORWARD IN HEARING THIS PROJECT. HE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND HEAR THIS, THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS. ITEM D AND E. ANNEXATION OF MILL CREEK PARCEL ID, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME THIS WEEK WITH COPD.

EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, IT KICKS UP AND I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU WOULD, JUST BEAR WITH M .

>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE PARCEL ID NUMBERS?

>> KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF, THANK YOU.

>> THIS APPLICATION IS AN ANNEXATION OF MILL CREEK, PARCEL IDS 2407-131-0004-000-6, PARCEL 2407-134-0001-000-4, PARCEL 2407-144-0001-000-5, AND PARCEL 2408-233-0001-000-1.

I WAS HOPING FOR A 007. [LAUGHTER].

>> THAT ONE TOOK A SECOND. >> THANK YOUVERY MUCH FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE . MR. GILMORE IS THE PRESENTER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING CHAIR AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION OF FOUR PARCELS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES LOCATED AT OR NEAR APPROXIMATELY 650 FEET OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ORANGE AVENUE AND NORTH 39TH STREET.

SUBJECT PROPERTIES CONTAIN APPROXIMATELY 21.07 ACRES.

CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE OF THE FOUR PARCELS IS COMMERCIAL ST.

LUCIE COUNTY IN THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE IS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THE CURRENT ZONING IS CG WHICH IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PLANT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE PLANT DEVELOPMENT ZONE. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN WHICH WILL

[01:10:01]

THANK YOU. >> IS DISCONNECTED IN THE ANYWAY OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE HEARD A MONTH AGO THAT WAS THAT

ORANGE AVENUE AND HAMMOND ROAD? >> NOW THAT I KNOW OF.

ORANGE AVENUE? WE ARE NOT ANYTHING ON ORANGE

AVENUE IN A LONG TIME. >> QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE BY

THE BOARD? >> WHAT IS THE ZONING USE FOR

AGAIN? >> IT IS GOING TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN WILL COME BEFORE YOU AFTER THE ANNEXATION IS APPROVED PER CITY COMMISSION.

>> THAT INCLUDES WHAT? WHAT IDEALLY WOULD BE BUILT ON

THAT? >> THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MIXED-USE OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

THE COMMERCIAL ON ORANGE AVENUE, OF COURSE.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I HAVE NOT

SEEN YOU IN A WHILE. >> I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HIDE FOR A LITTLE BIT BUT DECIDED TO SHOW UP FOR AN APPEARANCE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS TODD WITH A RED TAIL FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON THESE.

I HAVE A SMALL PRESENTATION PROVIDED TO STAFF.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE A METHOD TOUCHING ON THIS ONE, I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS AND BE ABLE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE GENERAL AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN PLAY WITH THIS. THIS IS ACTUALLY FOUR ITEMS AND IF YOU DO NOT MIND WITH YOUR POSITION, I CAN PRESENT ON THE

FOUR. >> IS THAT GOING TO INCLUDE

ITEM D? >> WE WILL COVER THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS WITH A PRESENTATION. YOU CAN TAKE ACTION SEPARATELY IN EACH OF YOUR AGENDA ITEMS, BUT THIS WAY IT WILL GIVE YOU A

BIGGER CONTEXT. >> I WILL ALLOW THE PRESENTATION. WE WILL STILL NEED TO HEAR THE OTHER ITEM ANYWAY, BUT IWILL ALLOW THE PRESENTATION .

I THINK YOU WILL ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE TAKING A SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY ON ORANGE AVENUE.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE FRONT SIDE FOR ONE SECOND.

WE'RE DOING A REBANDING. WE HAD TALKED WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT THIS TO HELP IDENTIFY AN AREA TO SAY WHAT IF WE COME ACROSS THIS CONCEPT OF CALLING IT A WEST ORANGE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOGO AND CREATING BANNERS OR SIGNS THAT CAN BE IN THE LIGHT POLES AND DO SOME THINGS TO HELP WITH IDENTIFYING THAT QUARTER WHEN YOU'RE COMING TO THE CITY.WE KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE WE HAVE IF YOU'RE COMING OFF OF 95 FOR THE TURNPIKE. AS WE ENTER THE CITY, WHAT FEELING AND SENSE OF PLACE DO YOU HAVE? THIS IS THE CAMPAIGN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON INTERNALLY TO HELP WITH MARKETING EFFORT FOR THIS AREA AS WELL.

IN THE NEXT LIGHTER, THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FIELD.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AREA ALONG ORANGE AVENUE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM, THE PIECES AND ORANGE ARE THE PIECES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

ALL OF THESE ARE PART OF PEACE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.

THE ONES ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE ARE ANNEXING ALL OF THOSE INTO THE CITY AND ORANGE. THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT IS ACTUALLY STILL IN THE COUNTY, THERE WAS NOT ANY PROPERTY THAT WAS CONTINUES AT THE TIME FOR US TO DO AN ANNEXATION. THAT IS CHILLY MILLER'S PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF JENKINS AND ORANGE AVENUE . THAT IS STRICTLY OUR COMMERCIAL PIECE. JUST BELOW THAT, THERE IS ACTUALLY A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS STARTED SITTING THERE FOR A WHILE. YOU CAN SEE IN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE,THIS TALKS ABOUT THE ACRES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING .

WE ARE BRINGING CLOSE TO 200 ACRES OF LAND INTO THE CITY.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PIECE TO HELP WORK TO THE PROCESS OF REVITALIZING THAT AREA. YOU ALSO SEE IN LIGHT GRAY,

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THIS IS AN AERIAL GRAPHIC. WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.

SOME OF THESE ARE GOING THROUGH MORPHING AND CHANGES AND WHAT NOT. BY THE TIME WE CREATED THE SLIDE, IT SHOWED A DEARBORN PROJECT ON 85 ACRES BEAVER PROJECT THAT EDC IS WORKING ON. BRAD CURRY IS WORKING HERE AND WILL PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ON THAT.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN, YOU HAVE TWO AREAS.APPLE A, B, D, F, G. ALL OF THOSE ARE PIECES OF PROPERTY ON THE CITY. ALL THOSE WILL NEED ANNEXATION, LAND USE AND ZONING. ALL OF THOSE ARE BEING BROUGHT UNDER THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION.YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 186 ACRES FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

IT DOES SHOW YOU THE WHISPERING OAKS SUBDIVISION THAT ALSO IS SET THERE JUST BELOW ORANGE AND JENKINS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. IT GIVES YOU A FEEL FOR SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES AND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

IN ADDITION, THE COUNTY HAS A ROAD OVERLAY PLAN THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH AND PROMOTE. SEVERAL OF US IN THE CONSULTING SIDE OF LOOKING AT WHAT THEY CREATED.

THE CITY IS NOT BOUND BY THE COUNTY SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.IT IS SOMETHING THE CITY AND COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING AT THE ROAD NETWORK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THE THINGS AND HOW TO ACCESS TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THROUGH THIS AREA.

NEXT SLIDE. AS WE GET INTO IT, WE'VE DONE ASSESSMENTS FROM THE AREA. EVERYTHING FROM ENVIRONMENTAL TREE SERVICE, TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEYS, BOUNDARY SURVEYS, PHASE I, PHASE II ENVIRONMENTAL, QUITE A FEW THINGS FOR THE AREA. AS WE STARTED GOING TO THIS, THIS IS WHERE I WILL SEPARATE THINGS A LITTLE BIT.

WE ARE CALLING PARCELS R AND B. THESE ARE THE PARCEL THAT WILL BE THE LAST TWO ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA, THESE ARE THE ONES OFTEN JENKINS AND ORANGE. IT IS A TOTAL OF 85 ACRES.

NEXT SLIDE.WHAT YOU HAVE IS, WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU AT SOME POINT IN THE FINAL SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE CONFIGURATION WE ARE WORKING THROUGH, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, TOWNHOMES AND MULTI FAMILY.

THE BOTTOM PORTION ON ORANGE AVENUE WILL HAVE COMMERCIAL AND THAT IS SOMETHING FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

FOR YOUR SAKE TODAY, YOU WILL DEAL WITH ANNEXATION FOLLOWED WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAN. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE CULTURE DETAIL AS WE BEGIN TO ZOOM IN ON EACH OF THESE PARCELS. NEXT.

THIS IS THE PART YOU WILL BE RECEIVING WHICH THE PERIMETER PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT WILL BE PROVIDED IN THOSE AREAS. COMMERCIAL ON THE BOTTOM ON ORANGE AVENUE. BASIC RAILWAY NETWORK BRINGING TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND TWO POINTS OF ACCESS AS WELL AS THE ACREAGE FOR EACH OF THOSE AREAS.

IT WILL HAVE A COMBINATION OF HOME STYLES.

WE HAVE A CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT. CLUSTERS ANY CONCEPT THAT YOU WILL BEGIN TO SEE MORE AND MORE.

IT IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN SORT OF A RENTAL TYPE MANNER. YOU LITERALLY HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT SAY LISTEN, I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN AN APARTMENT STYLE LIVING TO DEPARTMENT BUT WITH THE COST OF MORTGAGES AND HOMES, I CANNOT AFFORD THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE MY FAMILY IN A SAFE, SINGLE HIM HIM COMMUNITY. THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME COMMUNITIES. YOU ARE SEEING THESE ALL ACROSS THE NATION AT THE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP.

NEXT SLIDE, THIS WOULD THEN HAVE A FEEL FOR ONE OF THE CONCEPT THAT WE WERE THOUGH. WE HAVE DIFFERENT HOMEBUILDERS COMMUNITIES COMING AT US AND EACH LOOKING AT EACH OF THE SEGMENTS. WHAT WE ARE SHOWING TODAY FOR FINAL MAY DEFINITELY BE CHANGED AT EACH OF THOSE GROUPS COME TOGETHER. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE BRANDS OF THE DIFFERENT HOME GROUPS, THEY ARE ALL COMING TO US AND LOOKING AT THE MATERIAL AND YOU SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISPUTES AND THAT PLEASE, THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAD WITH TRADITION. THEY WERE NOT SURE WHO THEY WOULD HAVE IN THE END, THE DIFFERENT GROUPS ALL PICKED UP PORTIONS AS THEY DEVELOP THAT. NEXT, THE CITY ACRES THAT OF THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA.

IT'S A TOTAL OF THREE PARCELS FOR THAT.

NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS ACTUALLY GO TO THE

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WE ARE ADDING A NORTH AND ALLOWING CREATIVITY AND A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH THE PARCEL KNOWN AS E. IT WILL EXTEND TO THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY.

THE PRIVATE TO THE NORTH SIDE YOU SEE WITH THE RED GROUPS, THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE COUNTY.

BACK IN 2007. WE WERE TAKING THAT PROJECT BROUGHT INTO THECITY AND MODIFYING IT TO CREATE MORE OPEN SPACE . MORE PROTECTION WITH THE EXISTING HABITAT. THIS IS THE ONE SITE THAT HAS HABITATS TO REWORK SOME THINGS WITH BEAUTIFUL OAK TREES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO TRY AND PROTECT ON THAT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN.

IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT UNLIKE NORMAL ZONING, THIS IS ONE WHERE YOU ARE ABLE TO COME TO A CITY - - PROVIDE FOR ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CITY AND THAT IS WHAT WEARE PROVIDING WITH THIS . IN THIS YOU HAVE A PRELIMINARY - - WOULD BE THE ACTUAL PRELIMINARY PORTION.

THE FINAL WILL HAPPEN AT SOME POINT, IT WOULD BE A PHASED DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL. INITIALLY, WHATEVER IS APPROVED LOCKS EVERYONE INTO THAT. NOT LIKE - - IS THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. YOU APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE FOR THAT AREA.

IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION AND THEY WOULD MODIFY IT. AS DISCUSSED BEFORE, THIS IS A LIKE FOR LIKE. WHATEVER WE ARE BUILDING IN - - INTENSITY STANDPOINT. THIS IS A CLOSER FIELD TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED. PARCEL G IS THE ONE - - THOSE ARE TWO OTHER PIECES. COLLECTIVELY, ALL THREE OF THOSE WOULD COME INTO THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE.

WE HAVE WORKED THERE AGAIN, DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF SOME OF THAT SPIRIT BECAUSE WE HAVE TRIED TO BE REALLY OPEN WITH STAFF , NOBODY SEEMS LIKE SURPRISES.

WE TRIED TO WORK DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF ON THE PROJECT AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR OUR OVERALL PLANS. THE LAST ONE IS FOR GRINS AND GIGGLES. THIS IS ALSO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING WITH THE COUNTY.

TALKING WITH STAFF, PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AHEAD WITH ADDITIONAL SLIDE? YOU CAN SEE THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES, IT SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCEPT FOR A CLAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING WITH AN ANCHOR ON THE JENKINS AND ORANGE INTERCHANGE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHANGES AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING, WE FEEL THAT WE ARE THERE AND SEEN THINGS COMING TOGETHER AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WITH THAT, I AM GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER FOR ME TO GIVE YOU THIS BROAD OVERVIEW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE SPECIFICS ON EACH ONE OF THOSE.

IT HAS BEEN ABOUT A YEAR, ALMOST A YEAR AND ONE FOURTH IN THE MAKING WITH STAFF. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE LIGHTLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THEIR INPUT WITH THE DESIGN PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS SOMETHING WEEKLY TO BE FELT LIKE WAS A MUCH BETTER ELEMENT THAN SEEING THAT INDUSTRIAL NATURE THAT WAS BEGINNING TO HAPPEN WITH BIG BARBED WIRE FENCES ALONG THE STREETS. WE WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM THAT AND MAKE SOME CHANGES. WE DO FEEL AS CONFIDENT IN THE COUNTY'S ABILITY, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY DOUBT THAT THIS IS WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO. WITH THAT, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS. >> I AM GLAD YOU SHOWED THE SLIDE YOU DID WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT HARTMAN AND ORANGE. I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT HERE. YOU HELP ME OUT.

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ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> AND IS ANY OF THIS GOING TO

BE GATED OR IN AND OUT? >> GOOD QUESTION.

WE DON'T SHOW ANYTHING AS BEING GATED, BUT AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THERE MAY BE. SOME OF THE HIGH-END - - BENT CREEK TO THE SOUTH, GATED. SOME OF THOSE THINGS WILL COME INTO PLAY. WE ARE DOING MORE WITH THE BACKBONE STRUCTURE COMING IN AND ALL THOSE ARE BEING SET UP.

WE HAVE NOT HAD FULL DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.

WE TRIED TO BRING CLOSING WITH SUFFICIENT RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THEY CAN BECOME EITHER DEPENDING ON WHO DECIDES THEY WANT TO DO

WHAT. >> HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM REGARDING SCHOOL BUS

STOPS? >> WE HAVE A COMMENT THAT CAME BACK FROM MARTY SANDERS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE ONLY REAL COMMENTS AT THIS POINT HAVE BEEN IS THERE A WAY TO CONNECT THIS COMMUNITY ALL THEWAY UP TO THE HIGH SCHOOL LOOKING AT WESTWOOD ? WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO CONTROL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND LAND GOING UP THAT DIRECTION, BUT AS IN ANY PROJECT, YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT YOU WOULD PUT IN.

BUS STOPS, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THOSE WENT INTO THE FINAL SITE PLANS COME BACK FOR YOUR REVIEW.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> HOW MANY SITE PLANS DO YOU PLAN TO USE COMING IN?

>> YOU WILL APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAN AS A WHOLE AND EACH OF THOSE, THE ONE THAT IS ON JENKINS AND ORANGE, THAT COULD PROBABLY BE THREE SITE PLANS.

THE ONE FOR MILL CREEK MIGHT BE A TOTAL OF THREE AS WELL.

IT MAY BE TOO. >> ARE YOU GOING TO RETIRE ON

THIS? >> I WILL WRITE A SCIENCE FICTION MODEL ON THIS ANDWILL PUT TOGETHER .HE'S AN AMAZING AUTHOR IF YOU'VE NOT SEEN HIS WORK.

IT'S AVAILABLE VIA LINKEDIN. IT'S MORE HORROR OF SCI-FI THAT IS THERE AND AVAILABLE. HE HAS MADE IT FREE AND

AVAILABLE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT IS A SIDE ISSUE. THIS CONCEPT OF BRANDING THIS AREA OF TOWN AS WEST ORANGE, I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS AT AN ORANGE AVENUE PROPERTY OWNERS WORKSHOP MEETING .

WERE YOU IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING?

>> THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.

IT IS GETTING PROPERTY OWNER ATTENTION:

>> THIS IS OUR FIRST UNVEILING WITH THE LOGO.

IT'S A GREAT WHEN TO CREATE THE SYNERGY.

I HAVE MET WITH SEVERAL LANDOWNERS.

JOEY MILLER IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN GRABBING AND EMBRACING THIS. THERE ARE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES.

EDC HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN LOOKING AT THIS.TOGETHER, WE CAN PUSH AND PROMOTE SOME THINGS. WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THE LOOK OF AN IMAGE AND FEEL COMING IN.

WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY ON THE DOWNTOWN, BUT IF YOU CANNOT GIVE PEOPLE A GOOD FEELING PRESENCE AS THEY HEAD TO THE INTERSTATE TO THOSE PAREAS, WE ARE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT AT TIMES. I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS CAN CREATE SOME SIMPLE TRACTION. IT'S A SIMPLE LOGO .

CHEYENNE WAS QUITE IMPRESSED AND PLEASED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS. IDENTITY PEOPLE IN ONE DIRECTION, IS TAKING THE STREET NAME AND HIS GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION AND TYING THEM TOGETHER TO PROMOTE IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM FORT PIERCE BUT AS TO THE AREA

WHERE PEOPLE CAN EMBRACE THEM. >> ALMOST AS IF YOU'RE CREATING A SECOND CITY. THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL SPAC , SUPER HIGH INTENSITY INDUSTRAL SPACE, IS GOING TO BE A CITY UNTO ITS OWN OUT THERE. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IT WILL DWARF THE CITY. PEOPLE SAY YOU IMPROVED 10,000, 12,000 UNITS RESIDENTIALLY, TWO PEOPLE PER UNIT IS HALF THE POPULATION OF THE CITY. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BUT IT IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.

I THINK THAT WEST ORANGE WORKING GROUP OR THE ORANGE AVENUE WORKING GROUP WILL GET GOOD PLAY FROM THAT AND BE ABLE TO FIX THE CORE DOOR IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

DIDN'T MEAN TO GET OFF ON A TANGENT HERE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING I HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN BEING A PROPERTY

OWNER ON ORANGE AVENUE. >> IF YOU LOOK AT PORT ST.

LUCIE A GOOD EXAMPLE, IS THE THIRD-LARGEST CITY IN SOUTH

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THAT ANOTHER DIRECTION PEOPLE WANT THE GROWTH TO GO IN.

IT ST. LUCIE WEST, THE DEVELOPMENT OF US PENS ENTIRE AREA BUT IT IS STILL PART OF THE CITY BUT CREATED A BRANDIN , THEY ALL HAVE AN IMAGE IN THE FIELD.IT'S STILL PART OF THE CORPORATE WHOLE ADDING TO THAT AND MAKING A STRONGER.

AS WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY CONTINUE TO GROW IN CERTAIN WAYS, WE WILL SEE UNIQUE THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR AREA.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD HOPE THAT OUR CITIES ARE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WITH EYES WIDE OPEN AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SERVICES OUTSIDE OF WATER, SEWAGE AND ELECTRIC THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY.

IN FIRE SAFETY, POLICE DEPARTMENT, JUST TO NAME A COUPLE. OUR HOSPITAL NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE EXPANDING, IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. VERY GOOD.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> KEVIN, ARE YOU GETTING DEPRESSED NOW WITH EVERYTHING

GOING ON WITH YOUR NEW JOB? >> I'M GETTING QUITE EXCITED

ACTUALLY. >> IT IS REALLY REMARKABLE.

>> IT IS QUITE COOL. >> YOU WERE HERE 30 DAYS THIS

MONTH?>> IS ABOUT. NOT EVEN QUITE.

>> DON'T GET MY NAME TO STX. >> I THINK TO HELP FUTURE COMMISSIONER, THIS IS GOING TO BE IN DISTRICT 1.

>> I WON'T TOUCH THAT ONE. >> HOW DO YOU TALK TO A

MARKETING COMMISSIONER? >> WHO IS THAT?

>> COMMISSIONER STEVE JOHNSON. HE SEEMED TO BE THE MARKETING GURU ON THE COMMISSION. HE MAY WANT TO GRAB A HOLD OF

THIS LOGO. >> OUR TRADEMARK THAT ALREADY.

>> ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT FROM THE PUBLIC? I WILL NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL - - ANY COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? >> IT'S A TREMENDOUSLY EXCITING PROJECT. ONCE AGAIN, MORE INTENSITY IN THAT AREA, REINFORCING THE FACT THAT WE NEED SOME HELP GUYS.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE ALL THIS FIREPOWER CAN COME FROM TO ADDRESS THIS. WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOME TALENT AND ADVISING US AS TO WHERE ALL THIS IS GOING TO GO AND HOW IS GOING TO BE SUPPORTED.

THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE BUT VERY EXCITING DEVELOPMENTS HER

. >> I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT THERE IS NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MISS LEMONS FOR APPROVAL, - -. CALL THE ROLL

PLEASE. >>.

[e. Annexation - Millcreek - Parcel ID: 2407-124-0001-000-3]

MR. GILMORE AGAIN IS PRESENTING.

HE LIKES THE SEAS, HE HAS A BROKEN AND NOW.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS AND PLANNING CHAIR. THAT IS THE WRONG ONE, I AM SORRY. I THINK I STAYED OVER THE WRONG

ONE. >> I DO NOT THINK THAT ITEM E

WOULD BE ON THE PROPOSAL. >> THE ANNEXATION?

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>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> ALL YOU ARE DOING GREAT, I WOULD'VE HAD THIS ALL MESSED UP.

[LAUGHTER]. >> SO THIS IS FOR THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO THE NORTH, AND IT IS ONE PARCEL.

THAT ONE IS PARCEL, ONE PARCEL WHICH IS 2407-124-0001-000-3.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 62.51 ACRES. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL HIGH, 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND PRESIDENTIAL MEDIUM, NINE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN ST.

LUCIE COUNTY. THE CURRENT ZONING IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE PROPOSING A FUTURE LAND USE OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND A ZONING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AS PROPOSED, THE ANNEXATION MEETS OUR CITIES COMPETENCY PLAN AND POLICY SECTION 1.11. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO THE NORTH OF THE FOUR PARCELS THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED IS APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION.

>> QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY HAD A PRESENTATION ON THIS.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SPEAK TO? NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION MEETING AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TOO I

WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVEAPPROVAL .

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL BY MISS BAKER, A SECOND BY MS. CLEMENTS.

[f. Annexations - West Orange - Parcel ID(s): 2407-221-0001-000-1, 2407-212-0001-000-3, 2407-211-0001-000-0]

>> OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM 7F.

ANNEXATION OF WEST ORANGE PARCELS.

THE IDS ARE 2407-221-0001-000- , AND 2407-212-0001-000-3, AND 2407-211-0001-000-0. DID I GET THEM ALL RIGHT THIS

TIME MS. BAKER? >> YES YOU DID.

>> THANK YOU. MR. GILMORE IS THE PRESENTER.

>> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. BEFORE YOU IS IN ANNEXATION FOR THREE PARCELS LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH JENKINS ROAD AND FLOYD JOHNSON ROAD.

AS SHOWN IN THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE APPROXIMATELY 59.68 ACRES. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL OR BEN, FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER LATER.

THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE IS HIGH DENSITY IN THE CURRENT ZONING IS RS TO SINGLE-FAMILY, TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRES AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS PLANNEDDEVELOPMENT .

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION, IT MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE COMPANY TO PLANS, SPECIFICALLY POLICY SECTION 1.1 REGARDING ANNEXATION.

POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD ARE APPROVAL OR

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DISAPPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR MR. GILMORE? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> BE OF A MOTION BY MS. CLEMENTS, SECOND BY MR. EDWARDS.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[g. Annexations - West Orange - Parcel ID(s): 2407-231-0000-000-5, 2407-241-0001-000-3]

>> YES, MA'AM. MOVING ON, THE PNEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM 7G, ANNEXATION WEST ORANGE. THE PARTIAL IDS, 2407-231-0000-000-5 AND 2407-241-0001-000-3.

I THOUGHT THERE HAD TO BE ANOTHER NUMBER IN HERE.

MR. GILMORE IS THE PRESENTER. >> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATIONFOR ANNEXATION OF TWO PARCELS . THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED AT OR NEAR APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET EAST OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH JENKINS ROAD IN ORANGE AVENUE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS APPROXIMATELY 28.73 ACRES AND HAS A CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE AS A SPLIT FUTURE LAND USE OF THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN FIVE DWELLINGUNITS PER LATE ACRE .

IT'S IN COMMERCIAL ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE IS RH HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS RS TWO, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO DRAW UNITS AND SPLIT ZONING AS WELL. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT, CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AS PROPOSED, THE ANNEXATION MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE CITIESCOMPETENCY PLAN, SPECIFIC POLICY SECTION ON ONE REGARDING ANNEXATION . IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE SUITABLE HAVING EXAMINED THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY, TOPOGRAPHY SOILS AND NATURAL RESOURCES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION. POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD ARE APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION OR DISAPPROVAL

OF THE ANNEXATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD TO MR. GILMORE? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

ANYONE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEDIA CAN BACK TO THE BOARD. IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS, I

WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. CLEMENTS, SECOND BY MR. BARRY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PLAQUES, BRING THEM IN IN A HURRY. OKAY, MR. GILMORE IS GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. MR. SMITH IS GOING TO PRESENT.

[h. Conditional Use- Telecommunications Tower- 1601 N. 25th Street]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. TODAY I AM - - CONDITIONAL USE AT APPROXIMATELY 1601 NORTH 25TH STREET.

HERE IS THE LOCATION, IT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.05 ACRES.

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IT'S ZONING CURRENTLY IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.HERE IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE 160 FOOT MONOPOLE TELL COMMUNICATIONS TOWER AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED T-MOBILE GENERATOR.THE STAFF RECOGNITION IS THE PROPOSED USE - - LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE LANDFILL MEDICAL WITH APPROPRIATE RESTRICTIONS. THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE PLANNING BOARD ACTIONS TODAY OUR TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE, APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH CHANGES, OR THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THERE WAS A SLIDE HERE THAT SHOWED AN AREA WITH HOUSING AROUND THIS AREA. WOULD YOU LEAVE THAT ON THE SCREEN FOR A MOMENT TOO I AM ANTICIPATING SOME QUESTIONS THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS. IF I DO NOT GET THEM FROM THE REST OF MY BOARD, I WILL GIVE YOU A COUPLE.

>> THE STUDY FROM SABER INDUSTRIES REFERRING TO WIND SPEED, THE WIND SPEED, SHOULD INCREASE BEYOND THE CAPACITY THAT THERE IS A BREAK ABOVE THE BASE PLATE, IT WOULD THEN THE BOTTLE AT THE HIGHEST COMBINED STRESS LEVEL.

THIS WOULD LEAN OVER - - 60' X 60' AREA.

COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE RADIUS AROUND WHAT THE MEASUREMENTS ARE TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY?

>> I BELIEVE THE REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT WHEN SHE PRESENTS.

>> ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YES.

I THINK IN MY TENURE ON THE PLANNING BOARD, THIS IS THE THIRD ONE OF THESE WE HAVE HAD IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD.

FIRST OFF, WHAT IS BEING CONTEMPLATED FOR BUFFERING, FENCING ETC.? CAN YOU GIVE ME ANOVERVIEW OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT'S ?

>> THERE IS A PROPOSED 8 FOOT FENCE AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE THE BUFFER FOR THE WHOLE.

>> I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE IS AN OPTION HERE SIMILAR TO ORANGE AVENUE WHERE WE INCORPORATE INTERNALLY INTO THE TOWER, THAT ONE IS LOCATED ON ORANGE AVENUE.

THEY PUT UP 6 FOOTBOARD ON BOARD WOULD FENCING WITH MINIMAL LANDSCAPING . AT THE MOST ATTRACTIVE FEATURE.

WE WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE ABOUT THAT.

THAT IS AN OPTION THAT I AM AWARE OF BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT DONE PREVIOUSLY AS WELL. HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED WITH

THEAPPLICANT IN ANY CAPACITY? >> YES, I BELIEVE SO .

>> THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. THEY CAME FORWARD WITH THE EXPOSED VERSUS THE ENCLOSED ANTENNA ARRAY AM I CORRECT?

>> YES. >> WHAT DISCUSSION IS THERE AS FAR AS CAMOUFLAGING THE POLE ITSELF AS A KISS ABOVE THEEIGHT FEET ? WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF THEM CAMOUFLAGE TO THE POINT OF IT LOOKS LIKE A TREE.

WE ARE ON THE WAY ON SEBASTIAN WITH THE INTERSTATE THAT IS LIKE THAT. I KNOW HOW LAS VEGAS, THERE ARE SOME TOO. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DESERT AREA,

IT LOOKS LIKE TREES. >> I DO NOT HAVETHE CONVERSATION . HOPEFULLY IN APPLICANT WILL BE

ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT. >> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> JUST ONE. WAS THERE A NEED STUDY DONE BY

THE APPLICANT TO DETERMINE? >> YES AND SHE WILL BE

PRESENTING THAT. >> IS THE APPLICANT THE SAME ONE THAT OWNS THE FLAGPOLE ONE? IS THAT THE SAMEAPPLICANT?

>> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO . >> OKAY, THERE ARE TWO

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>> YES, I BELIEVE THEY ARE DIFFERENT.

>> THEY ARE DIFFERENT COMPANIES? OKAY, SO THE SHORTER ONE, I THINK THAT IS ONLY 100 FEET HIGH. THAT ONE IS NOT GOING TO COME

DOWN?>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF. >> THIS WILL TAKE ITS PLACE?

THIS IS GOING TO 160. >> IT IS NOT GOING TO TAKE ITS

PLACE THAT I AM AWARE OF. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> I WOULD OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING WITH.

WITH THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD PLEASE?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STATE YOUR

NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? >> MY NAME IS KASLOW MORGAN PUT MYSELF ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUE AND WE ARE FROM - - IN WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA. OUR ADDRESS, SORRY WE JUST MOVED IT'S 360 NORTH ROSEMARY AVENUE IN DOWNTOWN.

>> THANK YOU, YOU CAN SIGN IN AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET THEY ARE?

>> AS MR. ALL TIED SEARCHES STATED, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE MY NAME IS PEOPLE GET WRONG ALL THE TIME.

MY CLIENT IS PROPOSING A 160 FOOT TOWER AT 1601 NORTH 23RD STREET IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA. AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE IS AN ADVOCATE INCREASING DEMAND THE COMMUNICATION SERVICES.

PEOPLE HAVE THESE WATCHES ON THEIR HANDS, THEY HAVE CELL PHNES, THEIR COMPUTERS WE HAVE GROWN FROM THE WE HAVE EVERYTHING. PEOPLE WANT FASTER SERVICE, THEY WANT QUICKER SERVICE, THEY ARE HAVING DROPPED PHONE CALLS, THEY ARE HAVING MISSED PHONE CALLS.

THERE IS AN INCREASING DEMAND FOR THE SERVICE OUT IN THE AREA. MY CLIENT HAS ENTERED A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH T-MOBILE TO PROVIDE, CONSTRUCT, MAINTAIN AND ON THE COMMUNICATION TOWER THAT WILL BE IN THE PROPERTY.

TILLMAN INFRASTRUCTURE WILLBE THE PERMIT HOLDER .

T-MOBILE CURRENTLY HOLDS A LICENSE WITH THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION TO PROVIDE THIS WIRELESS SERVICE AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SEAMLESS SERVICE WITHIN THESE CITIES WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE A GAP IN SERVICE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. I WILL SHOW YOU THAT ONCE WE PUT THE MAPS ON THE SCREEN. CURRENTLY WITH THE SERVICES LOOKING LIKE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND WHAT TILLMAN AND T-MOBILE PROPOSES THAT THE SERVICE WILL LOOK LIKE INTHE FUTURE . CURRENTLY, T-MOBILE DOES PROVIDE SERVICE ON THE TOWER THAT THEY MENTIONED.

THERE IS ONE ON 910 NORTH 21ST STREET, IT IS A FLAGPOLE DESIGN WITH CANISTERS WITH THE ANTENNAS ENCLOSED INSIDE OF IT.

HOWEVER, T-MOBILE IN THIS INSTANCE IS PROPOSING TO ROLL OUT 5G SERVICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WITH THE DESIGN OF THE TOWER THAT THEY CURRENTLY OCCUPY, IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE FOR THAT 5G TYPE OF SERVICE.

THERE IS NO ACTIVE OR PASSIVE COOLING WITHIN THE CANISTERS AND ESSENTIALLY, YOU DO NOT WANT ANY KIND OF FIRE TO START WITH SOME OF THESE ANTENNAS THAT ARE INSIDE.

THE 5G EQUIPMENT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO OVERHEATING IN FLAGPOLE TOWERS.THERE IS NO OTHER EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT ARE AROUND AND I WILL SHOW YOU A MAP AND A SECOND THAT IS SUFFICIENT HEIGHT OR COULD BE UPGRADED TO MEET THIS 5G SERVICE. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PROPAGATION STUDY WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN ENCLOSED IN ALL OF YOURPACKAGES THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED .

WE HAD A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER GO OUT AND LOOK AT THIS AREAAND THE SERVICES . THE ENGINEERING COMPANY IS CALLED RF ENGINEERING, THEY PERFORMED AN ENGINEERING STUDY AND CONSIDER MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE SIZE, LOCATION AND ANTENNA HEIGHT .

CURRENTLY, WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, THIS IS WHAT FORT PIERCE CURRENTLY IN THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF SERVICE.

THE BLUE POLYGON THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS IS THE SEARCH RANGE OR AREA THAT RF HAS IDENTIFIED AS LIKING COVERAGE T-MOBILE. THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE THAT

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THE OTHER TOWERS YOU WILL SEE AS YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS WHAT BASICALLY FORT PIERCE LOOKS LIKE NOW.

IF WE WERE TO TRY AND PUT 5G SERVICE ON THAT FLAGPOLE TOWER THAT IS CURRENTLY DOWN THE STREET, THIS IS THE KIND OF SERVICE THAT YOU WOULD GET CONTENTED IN MODERN TERMS IN YELLOW, THE GREEN SERVICE IS YOUR RELIABLE SERVICE, PEOPLE IN THE AREA AREEXPERIENCING DROPPED CALLS, MISSED CALLS FROM ALL KINDS OF CALL .I CAME AND MET WITH PLANNING STAFF A WEEK AGO. I WENT TO ONE OF THE RESTAURANTSDOWNTOWN AND WAS SITTING IN THE RESTAURANT WITH ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES . I LOOKED AROUND AND NOTICED THERE WAS NOBODY ON THE PHONE. I SAID THAT'S REALLY WEIRD.

ANYTIME YOU GO TO ANY KIND OF RESTAURANT ANYWHERE, THERE IS USUALLY SOMEBODY ON THEIR CELL PHONE.

PEOPLE ARE NOT TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER, THEY ARE USUALLY ON THEIR PHONE. THIS IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS OFFICE. I SAID THIS IS REALLY STRANGE, NOBODY'S ON THEIR CELL PHONE. SHE TOOK OUT HER CELL PHONE AND ATTEMPTED TO GET SERVICE AND ONLY HAD ONE BAR ON HER PHONE.

THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE TYPES OF SERVICE ARE GETTING CURRENTLY IN THIS AREA . THIS POLE LOCATED THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION PROVIDES SERVICES TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA. WITH THE PROJECTED 5G SERVICE AND THE TOWER, THIS THE KIND OF SERVICE HERE THAT YOU WOULD GET.YOU NOTICE A LOT OF THE YELLOW AREA HAS BEEN GONE AND NOW YOU HAVE MORE RELIABLE SERVICE WITHIN THIS AREA.

IT'S ESTIMATED THAT MORE THAN 6000 RESIDENTS WILL HAVE INDOOR SERVICE LEVELS COMPARED TO MARGINAL SERVICE WITHOUT THIS PARTICULAR TOWER . THE PROPOSED COMMUNICATION TOWER NOT ONLY MEETS, BUT IT EXCEEDS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THAT COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT.

THE TOWER DOES MEET THE SETBACKS IN THIS DISTRICT, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION BEFORE REGARDING WHAT KINDOF SETBACKS . THERE IS AN 80 FOOT FRONT YARD SET PUT, A 60 FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK AND A 525 FEET REAR YARD SETBACK WITH THIS PARTICULAR TOWER.

WE HAVE PROVIDED THE LETTER FROM ONE OF HER ENGINEERS BASICALLY SAYING IF THERE IS A CERTAIN WIND SPEED, THE TOWER WOULD HOLD DOWN UPON ITSELF. IT WILL NOT FALL INTO THESE ADJACENT AREAS THAT SURROUND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

THE CENTER NOTICES TO THE OTHER TELECOMMUNICATION TOWERS IN THE AREA.THAT FLAGPOLE TOWER IS A ONE PROVIDER TOWER.

T-MOBILE IS THE ONLY PROVIDER CURRENTLY ON THAT TOWER.

THERE IS NOBODY ELSE ON THAT TOWER.WHEN TILLMAN INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD THE POWER AND IF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD A TOWER, IT WILL ALLOW THREE CARRIERS ON THE TOWER INCLUDING T-MOBILE. WE HAVE SENT OUT LETTERS BEFORE WE APPLIED FOR THIS USE TO ALL THE SURROUNDING CARRIERS ASKING THEM IF THERE IS ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED IN ALSO LOCATING ON THE TOWER. IF THERE ANY - - INUNDATED WITH THE CELL TOWERS, THIS IS A WAY THAT IF SOMEONE COMES IN THAT IS APPROVED IN A TOWER ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT.

WE HAVE DONE THAT AS WELL. IN TERMS OF AESTHETICS, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. NOBODY WANTS A CELL PHONE TOWER IN THEIR BACKYARD. THIS MODEL TOWER THAT TILLMAN IS CURRENTLY LOOKING TO BUILD, IT IS ONE OF THE TOWERS THAT MOST MEDICATIONS CARRIERS ARE BUILDING THESE DAYS.

IT HAS A SMALLER FOUNDATION, TAKES UP LESS SPACE.

IT IS A SLEEKER TOWER AND I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT AESTHETICS IN TERMS OF CAN YOU MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A FLAGPOLE OR A TREE. WE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF. I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CLIENT IS OPEN TO DOING, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO DO.

IT'S A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, THEY MET ALL THE REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF THIS OF THIS APPLICATION.

IT GENERATES VERY LOW USE, IT DIDN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT.

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>> YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE LACK OF COVERAGE HERE LOCALLY.

ONE OF THE REASONS YOU DO NOT SEE ANYBODY USING CELL PHONES IN FORT PIERCE IS THAT WE ARE A VERY POLITE COMMUNITY.

[LAUGHTER]. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DO NOT USE OUR CELL PHONES IN PUBLIC GATHERING LOCATIONS.

IT IS NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE SERVICE.

>> GOOD TO HEAR, I WISH MORE AREAS WERE LIKE THAT.

>> I WAS JUST BENDING THE EAR TODAY OF ONE OF OUR IT PEOPLE.

I CANNOT GET SERVICE IN THIS BUILDING ADEQUATELY ENOUGH, SHOULD I WANT TO GO ON TE INTERNET, LET'S SAY TO MAPQUEST TO LOOK AT A SITE AREA. MAYBE YOU WILL FIX THAT, BUT UNTIL YOU DO, I WILL CONTINUE TO BEND IT SEVERE.

I'M NOT AT THE BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS YOUNG LADY?

>> YES. IF HE SAID COME BEFORE US FIVE MONTHS AGO, I WOULD JUST IN GENERAL PRINCIPLES BE OPPOSED TO ANY NEW TOWERS. FIVE MONTHS AGO, T-MOBILE MADE 5G SERVICE AVAILABLE AND MY HOUSE.

I LIVE ON SOUTH BEACH. NO STREAMING SERVERS HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE UP UNTIL THAT POINT. AT THAT POINT, I SWITCHED OVER MY INTERNET, MY CELL PHONE, MY TV SERVICE AND MY LANDLINE SERVICE. USING THE 5G INTERNET SERVICE AND IT HAS BEEN MARVELOUS. NOT ONLY IS IT GREAT SERVICE AND BETTER QUALITY OF EVERYTHING, IT IS MY UTILITY BILL FOR THE SERVICES BY MORE THAN HALF.

ALTHOUGH PREVIOUSLY FIVE MONTHS AGO, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, I DO HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT 5G SERVICE IS NOT ONLY A QUESTION OF COMMUNICATION IN BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN IN THE AREA THAT IS UNDERSERVED RIGHT NOW, IS GOING TO BE AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE FOR LOWER INCOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF MONEY UNDER UTILITIES AND TO GET BETTER SERVICE. MY CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE REPORT OF THE DROP ZONE. CAN YOU ASSURE ME ON THE STRUCTURE SO THAT THE 60 FOOT IN YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT. >> ANY QUESTIONS COMING?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SHOT OF THE LAW ITSELF. DIMENSIONALLY OF THAT, WE HAVE SOME DIMENSIONS SOMEWHERE. WHILE HE IS LOOKING THAT UP, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF GROUND-BASED EQUIPMENT, GENERATINGCAPACITY, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ENCLOSE THAT AREA ? IS YOUR LANDSCAPE OFFERING? KNOW YOU HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE OFFERING, LET'S TOUCH ON THAT

FIRST. >> THERE IS LANDSCAPE OFFERING.

IT IS ENCLOSED BY THE TOWER BEING CLOSED AND THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE ENCLOSED BY THE WOODEN FENCE I BELIEVE.

WE HAVE ENCLOSED IT WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, OF COURSE WE'RE INTERESTED IN

ENTERTAINING THAT. >> IS IT BEING PURCHASED BY YOUR CLIENT OR POTENTIAL CLIENT?

EXPERIMENTS IN THE PROPERTY. >> RELEASING THE PROPERTY IN

ITS ENTIRETY? >> THAT ONE PARTICULAR PORTION,

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AND IT IS .12 ACRES. >> BACK TO MS. BAKER'S QUESTION, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS SITE COULD SEE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT I AM GOING TO ASSUME?

>> IT'S ON GENERAL COMMERCIAL. >> WE COULD SEE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE RELEASING A CHUNK OF THELAND, NOT A LOT OF IT IN ITS ENTIRETY .

THAT IS SOMETHING TO NOTE, THIS COULD SEE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS INITIALLY. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE QUESTION WAS BUT SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD.

PARTICULAR AREA, WHAT IS THE ADJACENT ZONING AGAIN, DO YOU

RECALL? >> THERE IS LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND GENERAL

COMMERCIAL. >> CONDITIONAL USE NOTIFICATION WILL BE POSTED FOR THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT A TOWER GOING UP IN THEIR BACKYARD AND THEY CAN BRING THAT TO THE CITY COMMISSION? THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT AWARE THAT APPLICATION IS PART OF THE PLANNING BOARD CURRENTLY? OKAY, THANK YOU FOR WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE CONDITIONAL USE BY THE WAY?

>> IS THE TOWER. >> 165 FEET?

>> YES, THE TOWER ITSELF. >> I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, THE PROPERTY WAS POSTED PRIOR TO THIS METING AS WELL.

>> ADDITIONAL USE NOTIFICATION? I DO NOT THINK THAT WE WERE

DOING THAT. >> SIGNAGE.

>> SO THE CITY COMMISSION WILL GO OUT, 500 FOR RADIUS AND

NOTIFICATION BY MAIL? >> YES.

>> CAN WE ADDRESS THAT NOW I GREW UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD .

I WOULD HATE TO SEE IRON STATUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ARTHUR AWAY FOR CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS ARE CONSTANTLY WALKING PAST THEIR IF WE COULD DO ANYTHING TO MAKE A CAMOUFLAGE OTHER THAN THIS STEEL STRUCTURE OUT THERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'LL THE PEOPLE IN THE NORTH

SIDE WANT THAT. >> UNDERSTANDABLE.

>> WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? I WOULD BE KIND OF CURIOUS TO

SEE WHAT ARE THEY? >> IS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I DON'T KNOW WITH - - IT WILL BE TALLER BUT THERE IS THE FLAGPOLE DESIGN MAKING IT LOOK LIKE A FLAGPOLE TOWER EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT. IT'S MAKING IT LOOK LIKE A TREE EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ARE, BUT WE ARE OPEN TO HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH

STAFF. >> HI - - ON BEHALF OF THE INDUSTRIES, I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT POINT, BECAUSE THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF THE TOWER FOR A MORE INTENSE ANTENNA, WE ARE MORE THAN OPEN TO DOING WHATEVER WE COULD POSSIBLY DO TO ADDRESS THE SENATE CONCERNS. THEY WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING A SERVICE. YOU WILL GO BACK TO THE ENGINEERS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PREPARE OURSELVES TO WORK WITH STAFF ON WHAT IS SAFELY AVAILABLE TO DO IN CAMOUFLAGE.

AS TULSA WAS SAYING, WITH THE FLAGPOLE, WE KNOW THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF, BUT WE WILL CONSIDER SIMILAR TO THE CANISTER.

WE DON'T WANT TO PROMISE SOMETHING EMMA BUT TO THE EXTENT WE CANPROVIDE SOME OF THAT, WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK

INTO DOING THAT . >> I CANNOT SIT HERE AND NOT SAY NOTHING. [LAUGHTER].

>> OTHER QUESTIONS?YOU WERE GOING TO INSTALL LANDSCAPING AROUND THE FENCED IN AREA TO DISGUISE THE FACT THAT THE

FENCE IS THERE? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> WILL MAINTAIN THAT? >> THAT ON TILLMAN AND MY

CLIENT TO MAINTAIN. >> SO IF THIS LANDSCAPE GUYS LIKE THE ON OTHER TOWERS INSTALLED IN FORT PIERCE, SOMEBODY WILL CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OUT AND KEEP IT UP?

>> I BELIEVE IT IS A REQUIREMENT, AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, AS A PART OF THE CITY'S CODE FOR US TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN THAT LANDSCAPING AROUND.

>> I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A TOWER THAT WE APPROVED OVER BY THE HOME DEPOT FACILITY ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD AND

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I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF THE STICKS OF THE LANDSCAPE ARE STILL ALIVE BUT NO ONE IS MAINTAINING IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A FUNCTION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.

CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ONLY HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE.

CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THE SAME PROBLEM IN TERMS OF NUMBERS OF PERSONNEL TO COVER THE ENTIRE CITY AS KEVIN HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET HIS PROJECTS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AND COMMISSION.

I AM ALWAYS VERY SENSITIVE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE LANDSCAPE, WE SHOULD NOT ONLY REQUIRED TO BE MAINTAINED IN TERMS OF PROPER TRIMMING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I THINK WE HAD TO REQUIRE IRRIGATION. OTHERWISE, IT DRIES OUT AND IT IS GONE.JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT.

NOT THAT I AM OPPOSED TO THIS DISCUSSION IN ANY WAY.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> I ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. WELL OUR FIRST RESPONDER SERVICES IN FORT PIERCE HAVE THE ABILITY, SHOULD THEY ELECT TO OR LIKE TO, TO PUT AN INTENT ON THIS FIXTURE TO IMPROVE

THEIR REACH? >> I BELIEVE IS AVAILABLE TO THEM IF THEY SO CHOOSE. I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MY CLIENT AND ENGINEERS THAT THE 9-1-1 SERVICE WILL BE IMPROVED BY THE SERVICE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A LOT OF THE EMERGENCY SERVICES, THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO UTILIZE TOWERS THAT ARE ON TOP OF BUILDINGS CURRENTLY.

I DO NOT KNOW THE REASON FOR THAT, BUT THEY USUALLY CHOSEN TO OCCUPY THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

MY CLIENT IS OPEN TO ANYBODY. WE SENT IT OUT TO ANYBODY INCLUDING THOSE SERVICE PROVIDERS.

>> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS YOUNG

LADY? >> JUST A QUICK ONE.

YOU ARE CURRENTLY AT THE FLAGPOLE, RIGHT?

>> YES, CURRENTLY AT THE FLAGPOLE.

>> THE FLAGPOLE WILL BE VACANT THEN?

>> CORRECT. >> THEY WILL FIND SOMEONE TO USE THE FLAGPOLE OR WILL IT GO AWAY? COULD IT GO AWAY? I KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT THE

OWNER OF THAT. >> I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK TO YOUR STAFF ABOUT, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CODE SETTING TO GET SOMETHING TO OCCUPY THE TOWER IF IT HASBEEN VACANT FOR SO LONG , THEY WILL

BE REQUIRED TO GETREMOVED . >> WAS THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? > I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> WE WILL KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THAT.

>> IS IN THE CODE SOMEWHERE AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE IT

IS AT. >> I CANNOT TELL YOU THE

TIMELINE. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I DO TO AMUSE MYSELF WHEN IT IS LATE AT NIGHT IS SIT AROUND AND READ LAW. I'M NOT HERE TO GOING TO ANY DETAILED EXPLANATION AS TO WHY I DO SUCH A CRAZY THING.

IF THAT IS THE CRAZIEST THING I DO IN MY LIFE, THEN IT IS

PRETTY GOOD I THINK. >> ONE MORE QUESTIONS, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP AS I WILL FURTHER WITH IT.

THE ASPECT OF THE CURRENT ONE, THE FLAGPOLE BECAUSE IT ENCLOSED, THE ANTENNAS THEMSELVES DON'T HAVE A COOLING SYSTEM. WE HAVE ANOTHER FLAGPOLE ON ORANGE AVENUE THAT ALSO WAS ENCLOSED AND THE ANTENNAS ON THE INSIDE, ALL THE SUDDEN I HAVE NOTICED OVER THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS THAT THE OUTSIDE OF IT HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF AND THE ANTENNAS ARE EXPOSED - - THE SKIN HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF, GETTING THAT IS BECAUSE NEEDED COOLING?

>> VERY WELL COULD. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER LIKE ENGINEER TOLD ME, THOSE ANTENNAS, ONCE THEY ARE, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE PROVIDING, CERTAIN ANTENNAS CANNOT BE ENCLOSED IN THOSE CANISTERS BECAUSE THEY WILL CAUSE OVERHEATING AND COULD POSSIBLY CAUSE FIRES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THE SKIN HAS BEEN

REMOVED, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE. >> YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, NEAR THE POST OFFICE, RIGHT.

I'VE SEEN THEM UP THERE WORKING ON THE LIFT.

THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING TO BE ANTENNAS, MAYBE THEY ARE UPGRADING THEM TO 5G. WHO KNOWS.

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>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU DID A

GOOD JOB . >> NOT A PALM TREE, A PINE TRE

. >> WHAT ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WEDO A MOTION ?

>> JUST ONE COMMENT. I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF THESE THINGS. I THINK INTRUSIVE IS PUTTING IT MILDLY, HOWEVER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURFACE COVERAGE MAP, THAT TO ME IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR.EVERYBODY NEEDS TOP-NOTCH SERVICE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO SAY AFTER THEY GET NOTIFIED OF THE CONDITIONALLY USED APPROVAL . IT'S MORE OF A CONTROLLING FACTOR BUT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED THIS TYPE OF COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT TO ME IS THE COMPELLING POINT.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT, NOBODY WANTS IN THE BACKYARD.

IF WE DO NOT HAVE IT, WE WOULD ALL BE SCREAMING.

>> THAT WAS ARE NO. >> PRIOR TO MAKING A MOTION, I AM WERE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE AS A PART OF THE CONDITION IN ORDER TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE TO REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF CAMOUFLAGE ON THIS UNIT, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.

IT WILL ENSURE THAT WILL HAPPEN AS THE CITY COMMISSION CAN DO WHAT THEY CHOOSE FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AT LEAST YOU WILL HAVE IT ON RECORD.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH SOME TYPE OF CAMOUFLAGE FOR THE AESTHETICS IF POSSIBLE.

>> CAN BE SECOND THAT? WITH ALLOWING STAFF TO BE THE DETERMINING BODY FOR WHAT CAMOUFLAGE IS ACCEPTABLE, THAT WAY GOES INTO THEIR HANDS AND THEY CAN SORTED OUT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO INCLUDE CAMOUFLAGE ALLOWING THE STAFF TO MAKE THE DECISION OF WHAT THAT MIGHT BE WILL LOOK LIKE? WE HAVE A SECOND I BELIEVE FROM MR. EDWARDS? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MS. CLEMENS?

>> MR. EDWARDS? >> MR. - -

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHEN WE STARTED THIS ITEM, I WOULD NEVER HAVE CONSIDERED THAT IT WOULD'VE GONE THAT LON . SURPRISING SOMETIMES.

>> I WAS SURPRISED. >> OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS

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SEAT. >> YES.

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BEFORE YOU IS A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION FOR WAYPOINT JENKINS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF JENKINS ROAD AND CONSISTS OF THREE PARCELS.

BEFORE YOU IS THE FUTURE LAND USE ZONING LOCATION MAP.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE OF OUR H WHICH IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND OUR CAPITAL FIVE - - THE PROXIMATEPROPERTY IS 36.25 ACRES . CURRENTLY IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE BEFORE YOU, THERE IS A CHART WHICH OF THE CURRENT SETBACKS .

THE APPLICANT IS ABIDING BY ALL THE SETBACKS.

BUILDING COVERAGE MAXIMUM IS 50%, THE APPLICANT IS ONLY OPERATING 8.17%. THE BUILDING HEIGHT MAX IS 4.5 FEET IN HEIGHT AND THE APPLICANT'S FEET WOULD BE NO MORE THAN THREE STORIES. OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IS 20% MINIMUM, THE APPLICANT IS AT 60.66% AND THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IS 50 UNITS PER ACRE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 10.05 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE SITE WILL CONSIST OF NINE STRUCTURES, EIGHT MULTIFAMILY AND ONE CLUBHOUSE TOTALING 3 TO 24 UNITS. BUILDING TYPE I - - 36 UNITS EACH. BUILDING TYPE II, THERE WILL BE THREE OF THOSE WITH 48 UNITS EACH.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 587 PARKING SPACES, 18 OF THOSE BEING HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE. THE LANDSCAPING WILL IMPROVE INCLUDE - - PINE, LIVE OAK SHRUBS, GROUNDCOVER AND IRRIGATION. CLUBHOUSE ELEVATIONS FOR YOU, THE FRONT, RIGHT - - BUILDING TYPE I ELEVATIONS.

>> WHAT ARE THOSE ELEVATIONS? I CAN SEE THEM ON THIS.

>> THE FRONT REAR, SIDE AND BOTH SIDES.

>> I AM ASKING OF THE ELEVATION IS.

>> THIS MORNING JUST THREE STORIES.

I WILL HAVE TO PULL IT UP. I THINK IT IS UNDER THIS.

MID ROOF IS 38.3. >> IS PROBABLY FALSE.

I AM SORRY, I DID NOT REALIZE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE ORDEAL. I THOUGHT YOU COULD BUT THAT

ONE. >> THE CLUBHOUSE IS 25.7.

>> I WASN'T MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLUBHOUSE AND SO WAS

THE THREE-STORY BUILDINGS. >> BUILDING TYPE II OF BOTH SIDES ELEVATION IS ALSO ITS THREE-STORY STRUCTURE.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, ONE OF COMPLETION CERTIFICATION BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT PURSUANT TO CITY - - SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED FOR THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A MITIGATION SURVEY, COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ARBORIST FOR THE REQUIRED MITIGATION REGULATED TREES PROPOSED BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.

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NUMBER FOUR, AFTER COMPLETION PLEASE SUBMIT A GENERAL ADDRESS FORM - - RESIDENTIAL UNIT. PLANNING BOARD ACTIONS ARE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH NO CHANGES, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CHANGES OR RECOMMENDED OF DISAPPROVAL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE? >> THIS MIGHT BE MICKEY MOUSE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET THEIR MAIL? IS THERE ONE CENTRAL KIOSK FOR THE MAIL?

>> YES. >> IS LIKELY TO BE A COVERED SITUATION WHERE IT IS A POLE BARN OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT? OR THE MAILBOXES THAT ARE OUT THERE WITH THE POST OFFICE THAT STICKS THE MAIL IN?

>> WHAT WAS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE COUNTY TO REQUIRE INGRESS AND EGRESS OFF OF SWAN ROAD INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN TO SAY WE NEED A SECONDARY MEANS OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF THIS PROPERTY? NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WOULD BRING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THE POND. MAYBE I AM INCORRECT IN WHAT I AM READING HERE, THAT IS WHAT I GATHERED FROM A COMMENT IN ACCOUNTING FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY ENGINEERING.BEING THAT THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM ON OUR LIST TODAY, AND IT IS ONLY ALL OF US HERE, I WILL AT THE APPLICANT TRY AND HELP US AS WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT ONGOING QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE QUESTIONS THAT WILL NEED SOME ADDITIONAL HELP FROM THE ENGINEERING STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, POSSIBLY.

>> HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARK, I AM WITH ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT WAYPOINT.

TO GET O YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WE ARE NOT PROVIDING ANY AXES OFF OF SWAIN ROAD. IT'S CURRENTLY IN AN APPROVED ROAD. THE ONLY CONNECTION WOULD BE THROUGH MCNEIL WHICH IS ALSO A PRIVATE ROAD MADE BY WALMART.

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ONE IS EMERGENCY ACCESS AND FULL ACCESS DIRECTLY THERE.

WE BUILT ANOTHER ONE TO THE SOUTH.

IF WE CAN WORK TO WITH THE OWNER TO THE SOUTH WHETHER THEY ARE DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY WHICH WILL LINE UP TO CAMPING WORLD ACROSS THE

STREET THERE. >> I GUESS IS YOU GUYS ANSWERING QUESTIONS. THE QUESTION IS - - COUNTY REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF RIGHT OF WAY OF 70 FEET FOR ROADWAYS.

DRAINAGE SYSTEMS - - THE WAY THAT THIS IS BEING WORDED, IF I CONTINUE THROUGH ALL OF THIS VERBIAGE, THEY ARE ASKING, IT APPEARED TO ME AS IF THEY WERE ASKING FOR AND EGRESS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. I THINK POSSIBLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE QUESTION MAY HAVE COME FROM THE ABILITY TO GET EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT OF THE SECONDARY ENTRY POINT. THE ANSWER WAS PLEASE SEE REVISED PLAN FOR 10 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION ON SWAN

ROAD. >> HOWEVER, WE ARE PROVIDING ANY UPDATE TO THE CURRENT ROAD SWAIN ROAD.

>> SO YOU'RE GOING TO WIDEN THE ROAD?

>> WE CAN PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DEDICATION TO THE COUNTY, BUT AS FOR ANY UPDATE TO THE ROAD, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THAT.

>> YOU ARE GIVING THEM RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION TO SWAN ROAD?

>> CORRECT. >> PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO ASK. IT MAY HAVE BEEN ABBREVIATED HERE IN THIS REPORT IN SOME WAY.

IN ORDER TO COME OFF OF THE SIDE OF HIS PROPERTY ONTO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY, YOU WOULD NEED AN EASEMENT TO DO THAT.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH.

DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS TO TRY AND COME TO AN AGREEMEN .

>> OKAY. THERE WOULD BE NO ABILITY TO WORK IN AN AGREEMENT WITH CITATION POINT TWO UTILIZE ANY EGRESS OR INGRESS IN THIS FACILITY?

>> CELEBRATION POINT TO THE NORTH OF THIS ONE? WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN ANY COMMUNICATION.

>> THAT'S A PRIVATE DEVELOPMEN ? THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT TO COOPERATE WITH YOU ANYWAY.

>> IF YOU ZOOM UP ON THIS AREA OR THIS PLAN, THE SECONDARY ACCESS IS TO OUR SOUTH. OUR MAIN ACCESS IS AN EXTENSION OF GRAHAM THAT WE WILL SHARE WITH THE CHURCH PROPERTY.

OUR MAIN ACCESS IS A AT THE MAIN INTERSECTION OF GRAHAM AND JENKINS.YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE BASICALLY EXTENDING GRAHAM, BUT IT WILL BE A PRIVATE ROADWAY, NOT A PUBLIC ROADWAY INTO OUR PROPERTY. THAT WILL BE OUR MAIN ACCESS AND THIS OTHER ONE IS EMERGENCY ACCESS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FULL ACCESS DOWN THERE, BUT IF WE CAN GET THE NEGOTIATIONS ON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH, THAT WILL BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY ON THE SOUTH END.

WE PROVIDING PROPERTY ON THE GRAHAM ON THE NORTH SIDE AND

THE OTHER AT THE EXTREME SOUTH. >> WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, THIS IS STARTING TO FALL TOGETHER BETTER. I AM GUESSING THAT THE TURNAROUND ON YOUR EGRESS INGRESS TO THIS PROPERTY WILL

ALSO BE FOR BUS STOPS? >> THAT IS CORRECT, FOR SCHOOL

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BUS. >> YOU HAVE AN AMPLE PULLOUT FOR SCHOOL BUS TO STOP ON THE TURNAROUND?

>> WE WENT TO AUTO TURN ON THIS AND WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE RUNNING

A SCHOOL BUS. >> YOU ARE TALKING TERMS OF THE

RADIUS OF THETURN ? >> YES.

>> THE SCHOOL BUS WILL BE ABLE TO COOL OFF AT SOME POINT? I SEE PARKING SPACES ALONG THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE THE SCHOOL BUS COULD PULL OFF AT TRAFFIC FLOW.

>> IS A 26 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY. THERE COULD BE ROOM FOR 213

FOOT LANES. >> YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PASS THE BUS ON A LANE. OKAY, I WOULD GUESS THAT THIS IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DEVELOP SAY HOW MANY CHILDREN WILL BE COMING AND GOING OUT OF THIS THING. I ALSO SEE IN THE REPORT THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, I REALLY EXPECTED TO SEE MR. SANDERS HERE TODAY, HIS BOARD MEETING PROBABLY RAN OVER.

OTHERWISE I'M SURE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN YEAR.

THEY SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT SIDEWALKS ON JENKINS ROAD AND LED ME TO THINK THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ASK YOU TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CHARTER SCHOOL.

>> THAT WAS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION, AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM DURING TRC.

AT THE END OF IT, WE AGREED WE WOULD PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ON THE

FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. >> THAT IS TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE. NOW THEN, I HAD ASKED THE CITY ENGINEER NOTED ON THE ENGINEERING REPORT, MS. VANESSA TO COME IN. I SEE THAT SHE SITTING BACK HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE. I ASKED VANESSA TO COME IN PARTICULARLY SO IF YOU CANNOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, THAT PERHAPS SHE WOULD PICK UP THE SLACK FOR YOU.

YOU HAVE GOT QUITE A SIZE MITIGATION POND ON THIS

PROPERTY. >> THAT IS CORRECT, ABOUT 11.5

ACRES. >> ANY IDEA HOW MANY GALLONS THAT REPRESENTS? ABOVE GRADE:

>> WE HAVE CONTROL ELEVATION OF ABOUT 11 FOOT AN EXISTING GRADE IS AROUND 14 FOOT. WE ARE PROPOSING BUILDINGS AT 19 AND A MINIMUM PAYMENT OF 17 WITH ALL COMPLIES TO COUNTY

ROAD BEING WHAT WE ARE IN. >> GREAT TIME IN THE WATER TABLE IN THIS POND IS GOING TO BE GREATER?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE ARE STILL WAITING ON GEOTECH TO COME BACK AND APPROVE THAT BUT THAT IS WHAT

WE FOUND. >> IN JUST A MINUTE I WILL ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT I'LL ASK VANESSA TO COME UP.

RIGHT NOW, PERSONALLY, MY HEART WILL END IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THE COMMISSION IS WELL AWARE OF THIS.

I THINK KEVIN IS WELL AWARE OF THIS.

IT'S STORM WATER AND WHERE THE STORM WATER GO? HOW DOES IT GET THERE? WHEN I SEE MITIGATION POND THAT HAVE NO APPARENT MEANS TO DRAIN OFF INTO CANALS, STRANGE, CREEKS, DITCHES AND OTHER PEOPLE'S LAND, WHERE'S THE

WATER GO? >> IN THIS PLACE WE ARE PROPOSING A DISCHARGE, IS 37 ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY VALUE WHICH RUNS TO THE 5 MILE CREEK.

>> I LOOKED ON THE BEST I CAN WITH MY LIMITED ABILITIES OF TECHNOLOGY. GOOGLE MAPS.

I CANNOT FIND THATCANAL ON GOOGLE MAPS .

IT SEEMS LIKE THEN CREEK JUST DISAPPEARS SOMEWHERE.

MAYBE IT DISAPPEARS INTO THAT CANAL.

I THINK OUR STORMWATER ENGINEER MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THAT TOO. YOU ARE GOING TO DRAIN INTO THE CANAL AND MAINTAIN THE WATER LEVEL HEIGHT BELOW GRADE.

WHY IS IT THEN THE COUNTY IS ASKING YOU TO BUILD AROUND THE BACK END OF THIS PROPERTY TO PREVENT WATER FROM FLOWING OUT OF THIS POND INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES?

YOU TALK TO ME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS VENETIA.

>> I AM SORRY, I AM TERRIBLE. >> MARK IS CORRECT, THIS SITE

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IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE AREA. >> RIGHT AROUND THE BOTTOM PORTION RIGHT HERE THAT HE IS POINTED OUT, THAT IS THE CANAL.

THEY HAVE A FULL STRUCTURE, IF YOU PULL OUT THEIR SITE PLAN.

>> THAT IS OVER BEHIND. >> GO DOWN.

THIS IS THE FIRST PAGE. IT WILL BE ON PAGE 2 WAY, THIS IS PAGE 3. HOLD DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

GO BACK TO THE SECOND PAGE AND GO OVER THERE AND GO OVER TO THE RIGHT. COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

GO BACK UP MY AM SORRY. IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE TO YOUR RIGHT HAND, YOU WILL SEE NORTH ST. LUCIE RIVER WITH CANAL 37 AND THIS IS THE OUTFALL STRUCTURE THAT THEY WILL HAVE, THEIR LAKE WILL DRAIN INTO ONCE IT REACHES A CERTAIN LEVEL.

THE NORMAL PROCESS IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT FROM NORTH ST. LUCIE RIVER WITH THE CONTROL STRUCTURE. TYPICALLY DUE TO INCHES WITHIN 24 HOURS THAT THEY CAN RELEASE IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BECOME AN EXPERT ALSO, THE ONLY THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT TO EVEN BE ALLOWED TO BUILD THIS.

WE AT THE CITY, WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD IN REVIEWING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT UNTIL THEY HAVE BOTH OF THESE PERMITS AND THEY SUBMITTED DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS MEETING SPECIFIC RAINFALL. NOT TO GET TOO COMPLICATED, FOR CERTAIN STORMS. A 100 YEAR STORM, THREE-YEAR, TENURE STORMS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RAINFALL AND BE ABLE TO SHOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STORAGE VERSUS LEASING SO ALL THAT DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS WITH THE PERMIT PROVIDED TO NORTH ST. LUCIE AND SOUTH FLORIDA.

THAT IS REVIEWED ALONG WITH GEOTECH AND EVERYTHING.

>> HOW LARGE IS THIS POND? >> 11.5 ACRES.

>> 11.5 ACRES AT 27,000 GALLONS OF WATER PER ACRE PER INCH OF RAIN PER HOUR, THAT IS A LOT OF WATER.

THE DISCHARGE IS NOT EQUAL THAT, DOES IT?

>> THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STORAGE THEY HAVE TO DO AND DISCHARGE. IT'S ALL CALCULATIONS AND REVIEWED BY PORT ST. LUCIE SOUTH FLORIDA BEFORE IT EVEN COMES TO US. WHEN ASKED WHAT IS THIS CANAL GO, MARK IS CORRECT. IT GOES TO 5 MILE CREEK.

I WAS SAY THE BEST WAY TO PROBABLY SEE IT IS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE AND IT RELEASES TO NORTH FOLK.

>> WANT TO GO TO THE 5 MILE CREEK, THAT RUNS DOWN I BELIEV , DOWN TOWARDS ORANGE BLOSSOM MALL.

>> THIS CANAL OVER HERE IS A RENAISSANCE.

THE RENAISSANCE BUILDING AREA, THE NEW BUILDING THERE ÃMET WITH THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES OVER THERE THROUGH PORTOFINO

LANDINGS AND STABLE CHASE. >> WE HAVE HISTORICAL FLOODING IN THAT AREA. I COULD ALMOST CALL TO A ZIP CODE OVER THERE WE HAVE HISTORICAL FLOODING IN THAT AREA TO THE NEW OWNER OF ORANGE BLOSSOM MALL HAS GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO TRY AND CREATE A SEAL, CEILING SYSTEM ON ALL DOORS ON THE HUGE GOING TO KEEP WATER FROM FLOWING INTO THE

BUILDING AGAIN. >> I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT ABOUT THE FLOODING IN ORANGE BLOSSOM. I KNOW FOR THE CANAL THAT NORTH ST. LUCIE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT CANAL.

IT'S LIKE A POND, EVERYONE IS ALLOWED TO RELEASE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER INTO THAT POND. AS FOR ORANGE BLOSSOM AND WHAT THEY WERE ALLOWED, I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT AND I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT. NORTH ST. LUCIE WILL REVIEW THE

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>> ST. LUCIE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE

ALONG THIS CANAL. >> NO, AND NORTH ST. LUCIE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

MAINTENANCE OF THAT CANAL. >> IS THIS AREA CLOSE TO THE ONE THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BEHIND SUPPLY?

>> PS. >> REMEMBER WHEN THAT FLOODED? THAT WAS PROFUSELY FLOODED. - - FLOODED BECAUSE SOMEONE DID NOT OPEN THE VALVE ON THIS PARTICULAR THING.

>> YES. ALSO, THAT WATER GOES DOWN TO THE ORANGE BLOSSOM MALL DISTRICT WHICH FLOODED.

LAST TIME ORANGE BLOSSOM MALL WAS FLOODED.

>> WHO WAS THAT PERSON? I WANT TO KNOW WHO IT IS THAT

NOT OPEN UP THE DOOR. >> I DON'T KNOW.WE HAD THE COUNTYAND CITY POINTING FINGERS AT ONE ANOTHER , THAT DEAL FOR

ABOUT THREEWEEKS . >> LIKE THE DEMOCRATS AND

REPUBLICANS. >> ON A SIDEBAR, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU SOMEDAY.

>> WITH ME? I WILL PROBABLY GIVE YOU A CALL FROM A LEAVE YOU A MESSAGE AND PERHAPS WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH YOU HAVE A LOT OF ANSWERS THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO GIVE THAT OTHERS ARE

NOT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD OR A BAD THING. [LAUGHTER].

>> FOR ME THAT IS A GOOD THING. >> I CAN ANSWER WHAT I KNOW.

THIS CANAL IS MAINTAINED BY THE DISTRICT.

WE DON'T HAVE SAY OVER THEY ARE GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

>> WHAT I SEE, AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL LARGE PROJECTS ARE TODAY.WHAT I SEE IS THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO COVER A LOT OF OUR CITY UP WITH NON-PERVIOUS PRODUCT.

ROADS, ROOFS, SIDEWALKS, SO ON AND SO ON AND SO ON.

FROM THE RESEARCH I HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST ALMOST 4 MONTHS NOW, I FIND THAT A LOT OF THE DISCHARGE CANALS, CREEKS, STREAMS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO CARRY THE DISCHARGE FROM PROPERTIES AND WILL BE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE IN SOME CASES CLEANED - - CLEAN AND DISCHARGE INTO THE ST. LUCIE RIVER FROM INDIAN RIVER LAGOON THE ARE NOT ADEQUATELY MAINTAINED. WE CONTINUOUSLY, NOT INCORRECTLY REALLY, BUT CONTINUOUSLY TALK ABOUT EACH PARTICULAR PRODUCT, PROJECT AS THOUGH IT IS AN ISOLATED PROJECT. WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN ON THAT CORE DOOR.

ALL THE WATER FROM THOSE PROJECTS ARE RUNNING INTO A DITCH THAT IF YOU FLEW A DRONE OVER THE CAMERA ON IT, YOU WOULD NOT OF THE DITCHES THERE. I AM BECOMING MORE AND MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OUTFLOW OF WATER.

I'M TRYING TO GET EDUCATED TO MAKE SURE WHAT MY PROFESSIONAL FEELING IS FORGET TO RADICAL IS NOT INCORRECT ANYTHING I CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND BETTER WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND GET SOME GOOD DIALOGUE AND OPEN DIALOGUE BETWEEN BETWEEN OUR ENGINEERING GROUP THAT DEALS WITH THE OUTFLOW OF WATER IN THE COUNTY AND PER MY

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A LOT OF IT IS COST. I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK ON ANYBODY. I WANT TO GET TO AN ANSWER SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE COMFORTABLE WHEN WE ARE DESIGNING AND APPROVING THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD THAT WE REALLY DO KNOW THAT THE SYSTEMS THAT WE SAY ARE IN PLACE WILL WORK.

RIGHT NOW, I DO NOT SEE THE EVIDENCE THAT IT WILL WORK.

I WILL BE TAKING THE COMMISSIONERS OUT INTO THE FIELD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

I'VE GOT SOME COMMITMENTS NOW TO GO AND PUT AN EYEBALL ON SOME OFTHEM . I SUGGEST THEY WEAR THEIR WORKLOADS WHEN THEY DO THAT. DO NOT SHOW UP IN THE SUIT, YOU WILL RUIN IT. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND ESPECIALLY TO TALK TO US. YOU CERTAINLY CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MR. CHECK ON THEM AT THE QUESTION CONCERNING THE MAIL RECEPTACLE, WHERE IS MAIL GOING TO BE?

>> THAT MAIL WILL BE PICKED UP AT THE CLUBHOUSE.

AT THE ROUNDABOUT AT THE ENTRANCE, THERE IS PARKING AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO COME PICK UP THEIR MAIL.

>> SO THERE WILL BE THOSE LITTLE MAILBOXES WHERE YOU KEEP YOUR KEY IN AND TURN IT AND OPEN UP THE DOOR?

>> I ASSUME THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, YES.

>> IS GOING TO BE LATE AND COVERED?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE IS ACTUALLY VEERING AWAY FROM

INDIVIDUAL MAILBOXES. >> I UNDERSTAND.YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAIL RECEPTACLE AT THE LOCATIONS.

>> IF THE MAIL CAN BE RECEIVED AND DROPPED OFF IN ONE AREA,

THEY WOULD PREFER THAT. >> THAT I WOULD PERFECTLY UNDERSTAND. I'M TRYING TO GET THAT I'M TAKING THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE.

IT IS LATE FOR THE EVENING AND COVERED FOR THE ELEMENTS.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT DO NOT HAVE LIT AND COVERED MAIL RECEPTACLES .

PAGES HAVE THE MAILBOXES THERE, THE SILVER MAILBOXES AND THAT IS IT. IT WOULD RAIN LIKE HELL AND

GOOD LUCK.>> IT WOULD BE LATE .

>> OKAY, GOOD. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND ONE MARKING SUGGESTION.MY QUESTION IS, I SEE A DOG PARK AND THEY SEE A PET SPOT IN THE CLUBHOUSE.

I DON'T SEE ANY PLAYGROUND. I SEE NOTHING FOR CHILDREN.

ARE YOU GOING TO LIMIT CHILDREN IN THE DEVELOPMENT?

>> WE DO HAVE A POOL AND THERE IS AN OPEN GRASSY AREA IF YOU LOOK IN BETWEEN BUILDINGS THREE, FOUR AND SIX.

THERE IS A LARGE GRASS AREA THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR GREEN

SPACE FOR A LARGE FIELD. >> NO PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT?

>> NOT OPPOSE THE AT THE MOMEN .

>> MY MARKETING SUGGEST IT HAS TO DO WITH THE HUD REQUIREMENTS FOR STRUCTURES THAT DON'T HAVE AN ELEVATOR.

YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE GROUND FLOOR MEETING THE HUD REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF BEING HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE.

WITH THE INCREASE OF DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE AND INCREASE OF EMPLOYMENT, THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE OF EMPLOYMENT OF HANDICAPPED PEOPLE. WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU REALLY EQUIP SOME PERCENTAGE OF UNITS AND MARKET IT TO THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO BE EMPLOYED WHEREHANDICAP .

IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN ANY AREAS, AND I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUALIFIED FOR JOBS BUT ARE HANDICAPPED HAVE A HARD TIMEFINDING A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE .

THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

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ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING TO THIS PROJECT? FROM THE PUBLIC? NOT SEEING ANYONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GILMORE? NOT HEARING ANY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I WILL MOVE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS

WERE PRESENTED BY THE STAFF. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND WHO SECONDED IT?

>> THREE OF THEM. >> MR. EDWARDS SECOND, LET'S GIVE MR. EDWARDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT HIS NAME ON THE BOOKS.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> THAT INCLUDES OUR AGENDA. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?

[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chair, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The Planning Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Board and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> MY CLIENT WANTED TO APOLOGIZE, THERE WAS NO IN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO MEET THE EARLIER.

>> NO GOLDSTAR. THANK YOU.

[9. DIRECTOR'S REPORT]

DIRECTORS REPORT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK SAVANNA PRESERVE, THAT WENT TO CITY COMMISSION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAQUE. DURING THAT HEARING, THEY CAME AROUND, THE PLAT THAT INCLUDE A NUMBER OF SPECIFIC ITEMS. THE APPLICANT THEREFORE WITHDREW THE APPLICATION.

IT WILL LIKELY COME BACK WITH A REVISED DRAWING TO

>> NOISE AND VENUE CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM VARIOUS [INAUDIBLE] AROUND THERE. WE'RE ALSO REACHING OUT AT THE MOMENT TO INTERESTED PARTIES, OWNERS OF THE CITY PORT AREA. TRY AND GET THAT MOVING. SO I'M HOPING THAT PLANNING BOARD WILL GET TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT VERY SOON.

SOME SUCCESSFUL DISCUSSIONS I'VE BEEN HAVING RECENTLY ON THAT. WE ALL REALLY PICKING UP ON THE NUMBER OF INQUIRIES THAT WE'RE GETTING IN THE CITY. I THINK I DON'T SEE A DOWNTURN AT THE MOMENT IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY. WHICH IS ENCOURAGING.

BUT IT'S ALSO A COMPLEX, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE COMPLEX AS WE MOVE THROUGH. AND I THINK THE BOARD HAS HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THOSE THINGS TONIGHT. SO I'M HEARING THE BOARD, AGAIN TONIGHT. I WANT TO SAY, WELL THIS AFTERNOON -- I WANT TO SAY THAT STAFF WILL BE WORKING ON A PRESENTATION OF SOME SORT TO LOOK AT HOW WE DEAL WITH THE TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC, ROADWAY SYSTEMS AND ANALYSIS, AND ENGAGES AND REPORTING ON FDOT AND THE COUNTY'S INPUT INTO THESE THINGS. WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS. I THINK WE'RE LUCKY IN A WAY THAT WE HAVE UNLIMITED NUMBER OF CONSULTANTS WORKING WITH APPLICATIONS COMING FORWARD THAT I CAN REACH OUT AND MAYBE GATHER THEM TOGETHER AND GET THEM TO COME TO A PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN GET A POINT OF VIEW AND HOW THEY'RE WORKING THESE ISSUES OUT.

>> VERY GOOD. >> CHAIR,I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. I WAS GOING TO BRING UP PRESERVE SAVANNAH. I HAD MADE A MOTION ON THAT APPROVAL HERE AT THE PLANNING BOARD. IF I RECOLLECT, THIS WON'T BE COMPLETELY ACCURATE BUT IT WAS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT IF THE DRAINAGE PLAN WAS NOT SUBSEQUENTLY SUBMITTED AND SIGNED OFF ON PRIOR TO GOING TO CITY COMMISSION, THAT NEEDED TO COME BACK HERE. IS THAT THE PLAN THAT IT'S GOING TO COME BACK HERE?

>> IT MAY VERY WELL NEED TO. WE HAD A PRELIMINARY HEARING WITH THE AGENT. AND THERE MAY BE AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD THAT THEY'RE

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A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THAT. >> THAT WAS INTENT THAT WE WEREN'T GETTING THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED.

>> YES. >> IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE SPECIFIED TO XYZ. IT NEEDED TO COME BACK HERE, NOT GO TO THE COMMISSION. SUBSEQUENTLY WENT TO THE COMMISSION. I THINK IT NEEDS

TO GET BACK HERE. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON

YES. >> [INAUDIBLE] THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK IN THAT PACKAGE OF USES IN THAT AREA. ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY PLANNING SHERRETTES WITH THE

NEIGHBORHOOD GETTING INPUT? >> I'M TALKING WITH OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER ABOUT THE BEST WAY FORWARD WITH THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE INPUT FROM THE LAST SHERRETTE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

>> LAST YEAR I THINK IT WAS. >> NOT WANTING TO DISRUPT THAT BUT TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN SINCE THAT TIME. WE FIGURED OUT, I THINK, A WAY OF REALLY NOT AMENDING THE CODE AND THE ALLOWED USES AS SUCH. BUT REDEFINING THEM SO THEY'RE ALLOWED, AND PEOPLE KNOW HOW THEY'RE ALLOWED. AND I THINK THAT WAS THE CONFUSION THAT THERE WAS CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT WEREN'T REALLY CODED IN A WAY THAT WOULD ALLOW CODE ENFORCEMENT OR AN OFFICER OR, YOU KNOW, AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY, IF YOU'D LIKE, TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY COULD AND COULDN'T DO. WE LOOKED AT THAT WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY FOR THE MOMENT. LOOKING AT THE WORDING FOR THAT. ONCE WE GET A POSITIVE REACTION TO THAT, THEN WE'LL NEED TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY I'M SURE AGAIN.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SUGGEST REINFORCING THAT IDEA. BOTH SIDES OF THAT DISCUSSION IT WAS PRETTY STRONG.

>> YES. >> THE RESPONSES. SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING IS THAT THE COMMUNITY IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA REALLY

NEEDS TO BE ENGAGED. >> YES.

>> COMMERCIALLY AND RESIDENTIALLY, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S 99.9% RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. BUT THAT TYPE OF INTERACTION IS CRITICAL. THIS THING IS GOING TO TAKE A

POUNDING. >> YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT AND TRYING TO GET THAT LINING BETWEEN THE

INTEREST AND -- >> EXCELLENT.

>> OPINIONS OF BOTH PARTIES. THAT'S PART OF MY JOB IS TO TRY AND FIND THAT MIDDLE POINT WHERE EVERYBODY GETS SOMETHING OUT OF IT. IT MIGHT NOT BE 100% WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO GET OUT OF IT.

BUT AT LEAST THERE'S A MOVEMENT IN THE DIRECTION THAT HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED AND NOT

JUST ONE SIDE OF EVERYTHING. >> THE RESIDENTS WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT OF THAT. WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO MISS THAT. THE PORTION OF THIS. IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

>> THANK YOU. >> GET THEM ALL TO THE TABLE.

>> THAT WAS MY INTENT. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I WANT TO ENGAGE PEOPLE. HOPE.Y IF PEOPLE DO TURN UP, IT'S TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND NOT OBJECT WHAT WE'RE TRYING

TO DO. >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT

WHEN YOU GET IT FROM LEGAL. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S IT FROM THE

[10. BOARD COMMENTS]

BOARD, CHAIR. >> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. ONE, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE AN ELECTION FOR OUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR IN OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING COMING UP. THAT STARTS

THE BOARD'S PHYSICAL YEAR. >> THAT TIME AGAIN? IT SEEMS

LIKE WE JUST DID THAT. >> WE DID. BUT WE GOTTA DO IT

AGAIN. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT, TOO. >> YEAH, IT'S MY FAULT.

>> THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A WORKSHOP MEETING FOR OUR BOARD WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR AN ATTORNEY OF HER CHOOSING TO REVIEW THE SUNSHINE LAW. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO REVIEW THE LAWS REGARDING -- I'M DRAWING A BLANK HERE. REGARDING,

UM, WHEN I LEFT THE DAIS. >> [INAUDIBLE] CONFLICT OF

INTEREST. >> WHEN YOU CAN'T HEAR A CASE.

>> CONFLICT OF INTEREST? >> RECUSING. AND I'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN PARTICULAR FOR THIS REASON. I JUST CAME BACK AS KEVIN KNOWS FROM THE APA'S TREASURE COAST CHAPTER MEETING IN JUPITER. AND THEY HAD A SPEAKER THERE. VERY GOOD

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AND I WOULD LIKE THE BALANCE OF OUR BOARD TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL PROCESS OF RECUSING ONE'S SELF. AND WHAT WE WOULD RECUSE OUR SELF FOR. WHY WE WOULD DO SO. BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT'S COVERED UNDER THE SESSIONS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW WHEN OUR THREE NEWEST BOARD MEMBERS CAME ON. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE -- AND I'D LIKE THIS IN A WORKSHOP BECAUSE THE SUNSHINE LAW THING, I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE DEEPER INTO SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION THAN JUST A QUICK FIVE-MINUTE DEAL WHEN YOU BECOME A BOARD MEMBER.

>> MM-HMM. >> BECAUSE WE FIND OURSELVES ON THE STREET IN SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE HAVING DIALOGUE WITH PEOPLE. I'M SURE THAT Y'ALL DO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED AWAY FROM ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND SAY, SHEESH, DID I JUST STEP IN THIS OR WHAT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. AT ONE TIME IT WAS PROMOTED TO ME BY AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY THAT WAS REPRESENTING THE CITY THAT THE SUNSHINE LAW IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY AS A BOARD TO GO AND SPEAK DIRECTLY TO AN APPLICANT, THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DID THAT IN OUR MEETINGS. BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED. AND IT'S, AGAIN, ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT LED ME TO BELIEVE IT'S KIND OF A GRAY AREA. BUT IF I HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH AN APPLICANT ABOUT SOMETHING, I ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND I'D RECOMMEND ALL OF US DO. BUT I'D LIKE TO GET MORE COVERAGE AND IN DEPTH ON THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYBODY GET CAUGHT IN THE RINGER. AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS BOARD IS PROTECTED THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND IF WE'RE NOT, HOW ARE WE PROTECTED? SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IF AN INCIDENT COMES UP, AND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS SINCE WE HAD A COURT STENOGRAPHER HERE. TWO OF OUR PRESENT MEMBERS WERE CALLED IN FOR ADDITIONAL DEPOSITIONS REGARDING A CASE THIS BOARD HEARD. AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AND COMFORT THEM THAT THEY ARE PROTECTED LEGALLY SHOULD SOMETHING ARISE.

>> YEAH. >> PARTICULARLY NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL ADVICE ON THIS BOARD. WHICH I THINK WE

NEED TO. -- TO DO. >> I WOULD TEND TO AGREE.

>> SO I'M DONE. ANYBODY ELSE? >> I ALSO HAVE A COMMENT. JUST TO GO BACK TO WHAT MS. BAKER SAID A FEW MONTHS AGO. MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT BUILDING OUR CITY AROUND CARS AND MORE AROUND PEDESTRIANS. I THINK WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY WITH THE REST OF THE CITY. IT'S VERY ISOLATED.

AND NOT TO DWELL ON ANY PREVIOUS APPROVED THINGS. BUT WITH THE WEST ORANGE, THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY TO THE REST OF THE CITY. AND I THINK WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT FORT PIERCE IS THE GRID OF THE CITY, AND KNOWING THAT I CAN TAKE SUNSHINE

-- WHAT IS IT, SUNSHINE? >> SUNRISE.

>> AND I CAN CUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CITY WITHOUT A

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BECAUSE AVENUE D CONNECTS TO WEST ORANGE. SO THE FACT THAT THERE'S A SENSE OF CUTOFF OR ISOLATION. I'M ALL IN FOR NEW BUILD. I'M ALL IN FOR EVERYTHING. BUT THE DISCONNECT FOR ME IS COMING FROM THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING OUR CITIES AROUND OUR PEDESTRIANS. WE'RE JUST ISOLATING THEM IN THESE AREAS OF FORT PIERCE. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ON JENKINS ROAD HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH JENKINS JUST TO GET TO WALMART WHEN THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A ROAD THAT CONNECTED THEM TO WALMART. YOU KNOW. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE INDUSTRIAL AND

WAREHOUSE, YOU KNOW -- >> GET TO WORK.

>> YEAH, HOW DO YOU GET TO WORK WITHOUT HAVING TO BE ON THOSE MAIN ROADS? THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING ALL THIS TRAFFIC TO BUILD UP BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY COMMITTING TO THESE MAIN ROADS THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO USE. COULD YOU IMAGINE BOATS, PEOPLE, BOATS. I THINK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME.

I'M LIKE, FORT PIERCE IS REALLY GETTING BIG. ALL THESE BOATS THAT HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH U.S. 1, ORANGE AVENUE. THAT'S A LITTLE OVERKILL. THAT'S A BIG OVERKILL. AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE WEST EVEN MORE. SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP THIS BARRIER WALL OF INDUSTRIAL TRUCKS, TO SAY THE LEAST, THAT THE PEOPLE THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA IS GOING TO HAVE THE SHORT END OF THE STICK. ALTHOUGH THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THEIR FANTASY WORLD. BUT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO GO TO DOWNTOWN OR JUST GET ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT HEAVINESS AND BURDEN. I TRAVEL ON KINGS HIGHWAY EVERY DAY. AND YEAH, THEY'RE EXPANDING THE ROAD. BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE ENOUGH. IT'S NOT. AND I GET IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S STUDIES. UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER EXIT ON I-95 THAT DRIVES INTO KINGS HIGHWAY, WHICH I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE GIVING US FUNDING FOR THAT ANY TIME SOON. YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE KIND OF AT THIS THING WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT WE GOT. JUST PILE UP OUR CITY WITH CARS AND LEADING TO NOWHERE IS SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR FAILURE.

>> THIS MORNING, THE ENGINEERING STAFF HAD AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE COMMISSIONER AGENDA MEETING. CONFERENCE AGENDA MEETING. IT WAS STAFF WILL PRESENT INFORMATION ON SAFE STREETS, ROADS, AND ALL 4A, YAKKITY YAK. BUT A PORTION OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS EXPANDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO TRY TO ENHANCE THE ABILITY TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD ON ROADS. SO IT'S BEING KICKED AROUND. IT'S BEING DISCUSSED. BUT THE MORE YOU CAN KEEP THAT OUT IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AND KEEP IT OUT IN FRONT OF ENGINEERING, AND KEEP IT OUT IN FRONT OF KEVIN, THE BETTER YOU'RE GOING TO BE. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. WE'VE GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL BEING DEVELOPED ALONG JENKINS ROAD.

AND THERE JUST ISN'T ANY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET BACK AND FORTH DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. MUCH LESS ANY OF THE JOBS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THROUGH THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

>> 20,000 UNITS IS 20,000 MINIMUM RESIDENTS. THAT'S HALF

THE POPULATION OF THE CITY. >> YES, WE NEED TO -- I MEAN, THIS IS JUST ONE MORE OF THESE SERVICES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE OVER THE LAST -- WELL SINCE YOU'VE SHOWN UP.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A COINCIDENCE.

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>> WELL IT'S NOT REALLY. >> ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

>> IT HAPPENED TO BE ON A LIST OF ITEMS THAT WERE ITEMS AND I HADN'T CHECKED IT OFF YET. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AND WE HAD A SHAKEN UP IN THE DEPARTMENT. AND WE'RE STARTING OVER WITH YOU. AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE REST OF YOUR

LIFE. AND YOU'RE AN AUTHOR. >> I AM, YEAH.

>> AND YOUR WORK IS FREE. >> SOME OF IT.

>> SOME OF IT. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.