[b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing continued from September 19, 2022 - Review and approval of an application for a Conditional Use submitted by Tillman Infrastructure, Inc and applicant Telsula Morgan to build a 160-foot monopole communication tower at 1601 N. 25TH Street Fort Pierce FL 34957. Parcel ID: 2404-608-0095-050-9]

MA'AM. >>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE THE QUASIUSUAL HEARING THAT HAS BEEN CONTINUED FROM SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022, FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AND APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE BY STRUCTURE, INC., AND APPLICANT TO SUELA MORGAN TO BUILD A 160-FOOT COMMUNICATION TOWER AT 1601 NORTH 25TH

STREET IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. >>> ALL RIGHT SO. WE WILL -- THIS WILL BE THE ONLY QUASIUSUAL HEARING SO MISS EARLY PLEASE GIVE THE GUIDELINES FOR THE HEARING.

>>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

SO, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF HEARING THAT BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022. AS SUCH I MUST RELATE THE QUASIUSUAL STANDARD. THIS CITY COMMISSION SERVES BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND CAUSECY USUAL ROLL, WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSIONER ENGAGES IN LAW MAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIUSUAL BODY THE COMMISSION APPLIES THE LAWS AND POLICIES AND IS HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS. QUASIUSUAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BEFORE MORE NORMAL AND THE COMMISSION MEETING AND QUASIUSUAL HEARINGS MUST FOLLOW NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON EXIT EXT TENT SUBSTANTIAL EVERY, THERE WAS COMMISSIONER HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASIUSUAL PROCEEDINGS, MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS. THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. FURTHER, BECAUSE THIS IS A CONTINUATION, THE PRESENTATION SHOULD BE LIMITED TO ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE PREVIOUS TESTIMONY OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE. FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DIAZ, THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING, AND IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN

THE CHAMBER. >>>

>>> MA'AM? >>> MADAM CLERK, IS OUR ADVERTISING AND NOTE BEEN MET, THE REQUIREMENT? AND AT THIS TIME WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATION, PLEASE? >>>

>>> COMMISSIONER GAYNES? >>> YES, MA'AM, BOTH APPLICANT

AND IT IS ZIPS OF FORT PIERCE. >>> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.

>>> YES, MA'AM, BOTH PARTIES. >>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHN SNON.

>>> YES, MA'AM, RESIDENCE AND CITY OF FORTH PIERCE ALONG THE WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.

>>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PA RONA.

>>> YES, MA'AM, BOTH SIDES. >>> MAYOR HUDSON?

>>> YES, MA'AM, I HAVE HEARD -- I HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS FROM

CITIZENS AND THE MEETINGS. >>> THANK YOU.

NOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES?

>>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? >>> ANYBODY THAT INTENDS TO STAND TO TALK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL?

>>> DO YOU WEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE

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NOTHING AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, THANK YOU.

WHEN IT IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK YOU WILL BE ASKED TO STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD AND, ALSO, TO INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT

YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. >>>

>>> HEY, NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE CITY TO MAKE ITS PRESENTATION,

PLEASE PROCEED. >>> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS MAJOR, I AM RYAN AL TEASER PLANNE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE (^), THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY NEW INFORMATION TO PRESENT.

ALL THE NEW INFORMATION WILL BE COMING FROM THE APPLICANT WHO DID SEND IN THIS INFORMATION TO THE CITY CLERK.

BUT, I WILL BE GOING OVER THE PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE ON SEPTEMBER 19TH FOR A LITTLE INFORMATION.

>>> THIS IS AND APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH T-MOBILE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER AT 1601 NORTH 25TH STREET.

>>> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A LOCATION MAP OF THE PARCEL, APPROXIMATELY 1.05-ACRES, AND IT IS LOCATED AT 1601 NORTH 25TH STREET. FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PARCEL IS RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY. AND, THE ZONING IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL C3. THIS IS A SITE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED 160-FOOT MONOPOLL TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER AND THE PROPOSED T-MOBILE TOWER AND CABINETS, FOR MORE CONTEXT, THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARCEL BETWEEN 27TH AND 25TH STREET. THE PLANNING BOARD AFTER MEETING AUGUST 8TH, 2022, VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT TRY TO FIND A WAY TO USE ITS DESIGN THAT CAMOUFLAGES THE POLE. THUS, THE PROPOSED USE OFFERS A PROVISION OF A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SHOW TOWER REPRESENTING A LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE, THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH APPROPRIATE RESTRICTIONS.

THEREFORE TURK STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS CONDITION WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT TRY TO FIND A WAY TO USE A DESIGN THAT CAMOUFLAGES THE POLE.

THE CITY COMMISSIONS ACTIONS SAY ARE TO EITHER APPROVE OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE AND NO CHANGES, APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE WITH CHANGES, OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE. THANK YOU.

>>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >>>

>>> YOU HAD A CONDITION IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION THERE, IS ANYTHING PROPOSED WITH THE GROUP.

>>> SOME PROPOSED WITH LANDSCAPE AND A FENCE.

>>> BUT NOTHING TO THE TOWER SPECIFICALLY?

>>> NOTHING TO THE DESIGN OF THE TOWER.

>>> OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, WE HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR THESE LOCATIONS OR THIS USE? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE ZONING OF THOSE PARCELS ARE, BY ANY CHANCE?

>>> I WAS NOT A PART OF -- THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE OTHER PARCELS, SO UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM, THE MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL, SURROUNDS THIS ON THE WEST; IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE I GOT THAT RIGHT? DID GROW BACK TO THE MAP?

>>> TO ACTUALLY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST, AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

>>> RIGHT. AND SO, EVEN THOUGH THIS 25TH IS A COMMERCIAL STREET, IT IS SURROUNDED WHERE THIS WILL BE PLACED, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL, EVEN THOUGH IT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY, IN OTHER WORDS, IT COULD BE, WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IT COULD BE DUPLEX APARTMENTS, ETC., IF I GOT THAT RIGHT?

>>> YES. >>> OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. SO, NOW, I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

AND SO SINCE THERE ARE TWO OF YOU PRESENTING AT THE SAME TIME, IS THAT IT? WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE? WELL, ACTUALLY, I AM GOING TO BE --

>>> STATE YOUR NAME. >>> -- WITH WALKER ON BEHALF OF

TILLMAN STRUCTURE. >>> OKAY.

YES, I WILL BE MAKING THE INITIAL PRESENTATION IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONST NEED TO BE ANSWERED, I ALSO HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE SHAREHOLDER HERE, TARA HERE AS WELL AS THE CLIENT, SOMEONE FROM OUR -- THAT HAS DONE OUR DRAINAGE AND, ALSO, OUR

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RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEER. >>> OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>>> BEFORE YOU START? >>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>>> OKAY. YOU MAY PROCEED.

>>> THANK YOU.

>>> THANK YOU. AGAIN MY NAME IS TULSA WITH LIEU WAS WALKER ON BEHALF OF TILLMAN STRUCTURE, I HAVE HERE WITH ME DANIELLE PETTY THE LEAD FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE EAST REGION FOR OUR CLIENT TILLMAN STRUCTURE.

I ALSO HAVE PATRICK KEEN WHO IS SITTING BEHIND US ALSO, HE IS THE SENIOR RADIO FREQUENCY DESIGN ENGINEER WITH T-MOBILE.

HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE PROPAGATION STUDY. I ALSO HAVE ROBERT REN MEBAUM, THE PRESIDENT OF SIMMONS AND LIGHT, HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE TRAIN KNOWLEDGE ON THE PROPERTY. I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT I WENT THROUGH THE LAST TIME THAT I WAS HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.

I REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ASKED THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE HERE.

PARTICULARLY, THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS DRAINAGE, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE ROB RENBAUM HERE FROM SWIM MONOS AND WHITE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IN DEPTH, BE YOU WE SUBMIT ADD DRAINAGE STATEMENT THAT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN ENTERED AS PART OF THE RECORD, AND THIS IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL.

THAT DRAINAGE STATEMENT, BASICALLY, STATES THAT THE NEW IMPER USE VAIR YEAH WILL TOTAL LESS THAN 9,000 SQUARE FEET AND NO ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE AMENDMENTS ARE PROEASE POSED BASED UPON THE NECK LEDGABLE IMPERVIOUS AREA, THE NEXT THING IS COMMUNITY MEETING AS YOU RECALL THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT DURING LAST CITY COMMISSION HEARING AND THEY VOICED --

>>> >>>

>>> , A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD AT THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY CENTER ON OCTOBER 18TH, THE PROPERTY WAS POSTED ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF IN ADVANCE OF THAT MEETING, WITH THE DATE LOCATION, TIME OF THE MEETING, WE HAVE HAD APPROXIMATELY 11-15 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, OUR RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEER PATRICK KING WAS ALSO AVAILABLE TAT MEETING AND HE GAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING PROPAGATION STUDY, AND WAS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF THE RESIDENTS HAD REGARDING THAT STUDY.

WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED AT THE LAST COMMISSION HEARING, ON THIS PROJECT, MANY OF THE PRESIDENTS EXEXPRESSED THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY DID AT THE CITY COMMISSION HEARING IN TERMS OF HEALTH CONCERNS AND SITING CONCERNS WITH THE TOWER.

WE PASSED OUT INFORMATION FROM T. MOBILE SPECIFICALLY ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE HEALTH CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD, ALONG WITH SOME INFORMATION REGARDING 5X AND RADIO EMISSIONS IN GENERAL. THERE WERE ALSO SOME QUESTIONS AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING REGARDING THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING TOWER THAT IS OWNED BY AMERICAN TOWER COMPANY, AMERICAN TOWER COMPANY BASIC HI HAS NO INTEREST IN UPGRADING TO 5G TECHNOLOGY AT THIS TIME, THE CURRENT TOWER IS UNABLE TO BE RETROFITTED FOR 5G, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO BASICALLY TEAR DOWN THAT TOWER AND BUILD A NEW TOWER TO ENABLE THAT 5G TECHNOLOGY.

CURRENTLY, T-MOBILE IS THE ONLY CARRIER THAT IS ON THAT TOWER AT 901 NORTH FIFTH STREET AND PER SECTION 125365 OF THE CITY'S CODE IF A TOW HAVEN'T NOT USED FOR 180 DAYS, THEN THE TOWER WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED ABANDONED, UNDER YOUR CODE, CODE ENFORCEMENT BASICALLY WILL ISSUE A NOTICE AND WITHIN 120 DAYS IF A NEW CARRIER IS NOT PUT ON THE TOWER THE TOWER WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT PROPERTY, SO I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING A TOWER ON THE PROPOSED SITE AS WELL AS THE TOWER RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, PUT IF AMERICAN TOWR COMPANY IS UNABLE TO GET ANOTHER PROVIDER TO BASICALLY OCCUPY THAT TOWER UNDER THE CODE IT IS REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED AFTER A THE COMMISSION ALSO REQUIRED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE PROPERTIES THAT TILLMAN LOOKED AT BEFORE SETTLING UPON THE SITE AT 1601, TILLMAN DID CONSIDER 7 PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES WITHIN THE SEARCH RANGE INCLUDING THE CURRENT SITE.

THERE WAS NO FOLLOW-UP FROM 9 OF THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, TWO OF WHICH WERE LOCATED IN MEDIUM TENSIONTY RESIDENTIAL ZONING, AND ONE IN COMMERCIAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, TWO OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE COUNTY JURISDICTION, HOWEVER, VARIANCES WILL BE REQUIRED FROM THE COUNTY DUE TO

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THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL, ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE OTHER PROPERTY ZONED INSTITUTIONAL AND THIS LEFT US WITH TWO REMAINING PROPERTIES INCLUDING THE CURRENT SITE, THE OTHER SITE, WAS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL, HOWEVER IT WAS CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL THEREFORE MY CLIENT SETTLED UPON THIS SITE WHICH HAS THE LEAST IMPACT TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE PIECED TO US IF WE HAD LOOKED AT ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT SITES, LAST WEEK, I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO MARVIN SANDERS FROM THE SAINT LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

HE SENT OVER FIVE SITES, MY CLIENT AND MYSELF, WE LOOKED AT THOSE FIVE SITES, MR. SANDERS ADVISED THAT FOUR OF THE SITES WERE WITHIN TILLMAN'S STRUCTURE, SEARCH ARE, ARE WITHIN THE CITY'S -- ARE TOO TIGHT ACCORDING TO MR. SANDER FOR A TOWER TO BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTIES, AND THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ENOUGH ROOM AND IN REGARDS TO THE SITE THAT WAS AT -- IS WITHIN THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY HAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA, ADDITIONALLY, TILLMAN WOULD LOSE OUT ON ITS CARRIER IF THEY DID NOT -- IF THEY HAD TO START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.

MR. SANDERS ALSO NOTED THAT HE EXPECTED OPPOSITION TO THE SITING OF THE TOWERS ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTIES AS WELL.

SO, IN REGARDS TO FORT PIERCE WESTWOOD ACADEMY SPECIFICALLY, WE WERE -- THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF THE SITES THAT HE LOOKED INTO, HOW FAR, HE CONFIRMD THAT THAT SITE IS OUTSIDE TILLMAN'S SEARCH RANGE AREA. SO WE DID LOOK INTO THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTIES AS WELL. IN TERMS OF, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO CANISTER DESIGN, LIKE I SAID I HAVE PATRICK KING HERE, HE CAN ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS DESIGN OF THE CANISTER AND WHY THOSE ANTENNAS ARE UNABLE TO BE ENCLOSED IN THE CANISTER I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS SOME PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO THAT.

I HAVE DANIELLE PETTY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TILLMAN STRUCTURE AND HER CLIENT. I BELIEVE STAFF DID ASK US HOW MANY TOWERS HAD TILLMAN BUILT, AND AT THAT TIME, WE TOOK INFORMATION OFF THE WEB SITE BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN US UPDATED NUMBERS. THEY HAVE BUILT APPROXIMATELY 6894 TOWERS TO DATE AND THEY HAVE 613 TOWERS IN THE PIPELINE.

IN REGARDS TO THE LANDSCAPING, WE HAVE ADDED THREE KA TO ANIES TO BE WITHIN THE LEASE AREA OF THE PROPERTY F NECESSARY, WE ARE WILLING TO PLANT SOME ADDITIONAL TREES IN THE AREA, I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN REGARDING US MOVING, EVEN THOUGH UNDER THE CODE IT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR TO US DO TREE FOR TREE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE WAS CONCERN REGARDING US REMOVING A LOT OF TREES FROM THE PROPERTY, SO WE HAVE SPOKE WITHIN THE CLIENT AND THEY ARE WILLING TO PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES AS WELL. AND IN SUMMARY, BASICALLY, TILLMAN HAS PROVIDED COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATING ITS COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE, AND DESIGN REVIEW, AND THOSE CODE PROVISIONS INCLUDE SECTION 125-200, SECTION 125-361, 125-362 AND 125-363.

THE PROSE POD FACILITY IS REQUIRED TO CLOSE A SUBSTANTIAL COVERAGE GAP AND REPRESENTS THE ONLY VIABLE ALTERNATIVE PURSUANT TO TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT, WIRELESS FACILITIES MAY NOT BE PROHIBITED IN ANY PARTICULAR AREA AND ZONING DENIAL OF ZONING RELIEF MUST BE BASED UPON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, ACCORDINGLY TILLMAN STRUCTURE REQUESTS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION GRANTED ITS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER, OUR TEAM, IS OP DECK AND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE AND WE ASK THAT A FEW MINUTES BE RESERVED FOR REBUTTAL AFTER PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>> WE DON'T NEED TO ASK FOR THAT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU ANYWAY.

>>> I APPRECIATE IT. >>> IT IS ON THE RECORD NOW.

>>> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >>> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>>> MADAM, MAYOR DOES THAT INCLUDE THE DESIGN TEAM, I WANT TO GO OVER TO THE DESIGN ELEMENT, THEY MENTIONED THIS AND

SPOKE OF ABOUT THE DRAINAGE? >>> YEAH, I THINK THAT IT DOES INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS, YES. >>> YEAH, CAN WE PUT THAT SITE

PLAN BACK UP? >>> THE SITE PLAN?

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>>> UH-HMM. HOW YOU DOING.

>>> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD FOR US.

>>> ROB REMEMBERBAUM, A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH SIMMONS AND WHITE ENGINEERS.

I HAVE BEEN WITH SIMMONS AND WHITE FOR 5 YEARS NOW, PRACTICING DRAINAGE AND CIVIL EVERYONE NEARING.

>>> THANK YOU. >>> GORDON?

>>> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, SPELL YOUR LAST NAME.

>>> R. E. N. N. E. B. A. U. M. >>> THANKSGIVING YOU.

>>> COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, WE WERE PRESENTED THIS SITE PLAN HERE AND THE STRUCTURE IS TALL AND CONCRETE BASED.

AND THE DENSITY OF THE FOOTPRINT THAT IT WOULD TAKE, AND BASED ON THE, WHERE IT IS LOCATE CANNED YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE DRAINAGE PLAN HERE YOU RECOMMEND AND SIGNING OFF THAT, I THOUGHT I HEARD THEM THERE WERE NO FURTHER RECOMMENDIZATIONS BEYOND WHAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN IS THAT CORRECT.

>>> YES, COMMISSIONER. I DISCUSSED THE SITE PLAN AND THE PAST PROJECTS WITH TILLMAN ENGINEERS, AND THE SITE CONSISTS OF 60 BY 60 LEASED PARCEL AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SITE PLAN INSET, 10 FEET ALL THE WAY AROUND, THERE WILL BE A 10-FOOT GRASS STRIP WITH LANDSCAPING, AWE AROUND 40 BY 40 AREA, AND THAT 40 BY 40 AREA IS WHAT IS CALLED WASH ROCK, 57 STONE, 6, 9-6" THICK WHICH HAS ABOUT A 40% VOID RATIO.

THE ONLY REAL CONCRETE OR IMPERVIOUS AREA WITHIN THE 40 BY 40 AREA IS THE ACTUAL MONOPOLE BASE AND THEN THE GENERATOR PAD AND EQUIPMENT PAD, SO, RAINFALL THAT FALLS IN 40 BY 0 AREA ON THAT PERVIOUS ROCK (^) IS FOG TO BE STORED IN THE ROCK AND THEY WILL BE ESSENTIALLY NO RUN OFF. THE ONLY RUN OFF WILL BE FROM THE MONOPOLE BASE AND THE TWO SMALL EQUIPMENT PADS WHICH IS TYPICALLY CONSIDERED NECK LEDGABLE AND WILL BE STORED IN THE VOIDS AND NEVERMAKE IT OUTSIDE THE 40 BY 40 AREA TO THE GREEN AREA. SO, THE GREEN 10-FOOT STRIP ALL AROUND IF ANY WATER GETS THERE IS PERVIOUS AND TYPICALLY PERK LATES. THERE IS ALSO A PROPROPOSED 12-FOOT CONCRETE ACCESS ROAD FROM 27TH STREET ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE THAN HAS 30-FOOT EASEMENT IN THE 12-FOOT ACCESS ROAD, SO YOU HAVE GOT ABOUT 9 FEET OF PERVIOUS AREA ON EACH SIDE, TO PERK LATE WATER. NOW, I HAVE TALKED TO THE -- BEING PROACTIVE, I TALKED TO THE TILLMAN ENGINEERS AND I SAID, WHAT IF WE DID NEED TO STORE WATER? HAVE YOU EVER DONE A SWALE IN THE 10-FOOT ADJACENT TO THE CONCRETE ACCESS ROAD? OR ADJACENT ALL THE WAY AROUND THIS WASH ROCK, THIS 57 STONE? AND THEY SAID, YES, AT TIMES, TYPICALLY WE DON'T BUT IF A MUNICIPALITY, GOVERNING AGENCY, A DRAINAGE PERMITTING AGENCY WANTED A SWALE, THEY CAN VERY EASILY DO A 6" DEEP TO 8" DEEP SWALE IN THE 10 FEET.

SO, IF WE GO DOWN 6," WITHIN 10 FEET, 6" WITHIN ABOUT 5-FOOT ON EACH SIDE, THAT IS ABOUT A 10:1 SLOPE, VERY EASILY MAINTAINABLE AND IT STORES WATER AND PROVIDE AND EXTRA LEVEL OF PROTECTION FOR PERCOLATION AND STORAGE.

SO, THAT IS AVAILABLE ADDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, IF YOU WANTED THAT EXTRA LAYER, SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CONSIDERS THIS A PERMIT EXEMPTION, THEY WOULD NOT REQUIRE IT. YOU HAVE A LAYER OF PERMITTING WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ENGINEER WE WOULD GO TO.

MY INITIAL, NOT HAVING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TONIGHT, MY INITIAL DESIGN WOULD BE JUST GRAVEL, THE WASH ROCK, AND THE LANDSCAPE AREA, IF THE CITY ENGINEER REQUESTED THE SWALE WE WOULD DO THAT IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS, BUT, WE ARE OPEN TO A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IF YOU WANTED THAT PROACT, TO BE

PROACTIVE AT THIS LEVEL. >>> WOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR? THANKSGIVING YOU. I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE, YOU MADE MENTION OF, FIRST LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE COMMUNITY MEETING ON THE 18TH AND YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT 11 PEOPLE SHOWED UP. MY QUESTION IS: HOW DID THE WORD GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE WAS A MEETING ON

OCTOBER 18TH? >>> YES.

WE INITIALLY, AFTER WE LEFT THIS MEETING WE CONTACTED CITY STAFF, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO FIND A GOOD LOCATION FOR THE MEETING.

WE INQUIRED ABOUT LOCATIONS. I, PERSONALLY, RECOMMENDED, OR ASKED WOULD BIT A GOOD IDEA IF WE TRIED TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE A MEETING A THE A CHURCH WITHIN THE AREA, AND MR. AL TEASER

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THOUGHT IT IS A GOOD IDEA (^). I REACHED OUT AND WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY NOTE, ST. PAUL AME CHURCH AND LEFT A VOICE MAYORAL IN REGARD TO HAVING A MEETING AFTER NOT BEING CONTACTED BACK.

I LOOKED UP NEARBY AREAS AND I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY CENTER. I REACHED OUT TO A GUY WHO DOES SIGNS, AND I CONTACTED HIM AND SAID WE HAVE SETTLED UPON THIS SITE, AND COULD HE HELP US GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS MEETING.

SO, WE ACTUALLY JUST POSTED, HAD A SIGN GUY GO OUT AND POST A LARGE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY LIKE WE WOULD DO IF WE WERE NOTICING ANY CITY COMMISSION MEETING OR PLANNING BOARD MEETING WE HAD

THE SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. >>> OKAY.

YOU ENDED UP USING THE LINCOLN PARK RECREATION CENTER.

>>> CORRECT. >>> WHEN THAT WAS BOOKED, WAS IT THE STAFF AT THE RECREATION CENTER, KNOW WHAT THE MING WAS

ABOUT? >>> NO, I JUST -- THE ONLY THING I KNEW IT IS GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD AT THE CENTER. THEY ASKED US, I THINK THEY SAID WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THETTE MOOING AND WE PUT DOWN THAT IT IS A COMMUNITY MEETING. BUT WE DIDN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY IT WAS FOR TILLMAN STRUCTURE AND IT WAS FOR A CELL TOWER SITE,

NO. >>> ANY TIME DURING THOSE CONVERSATIONS DID YOU ASK THE COMMUNITY CENTER TO ADVERTISE ABOUT WHAT THIS MEETING WAS ABOUT?

>>> I DID NOT. >>> THANK YOU.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE

APPLICANT? >>> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

AND SO, EARLIER YOU HEARD ME ASK ABOUT THE TOWER SPECIFICALLY, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS YOUR RADIO ENGINEER?

KEEN, I THINK YOU SAID? >>> YES.

>>> SO, JUST, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND TACK ABOUT THE AESTHETIC VALUE OR THE PROPOSED VALUE THAT HAS GIVEN HERE IN THE APPLICATION FOR THE GALVANIZED STRUCTURE I THINK OWE TOLD US ON

THE LAST HEARING. >>> CORRECT IT IS A GAL VENNIZED POLE, WE HAVE EXPOSED ANTENNAS SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE THERE, WHAT OPTIONS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR DESIGN MANUAL AND WHAT DOES HE HAVE IN THE DESIGN BOOK, WHAT

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THERE? >>>

>>> >>> HELLO.

I'M DANIELLE PETTY. FROM TILLMAN STRUCTURE.

SORRY. >>> ISETTE P. E. T. T. Y.?

P. E. T. T. I. >>> YOU WERE SWORN IN? YES, I

WAS. >>> SO THE DESIGN OF THE POLE? SO TALK TO US ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED TO US

TODAY? >>> BECAUSE STAFF HAS A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION IN THEIR CONDITION, AND I'M SURE IT IS TALKED ABOUT WITHIN THE PLANNING BOARD SO TALK TO US

ABOUT THE POLE ITSELF, PLEASE. >>> BEFORE I LET HER DISCUSS HER AREA OF EXPERTISE, I THINK OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION AT THE PRIOR HEARING ON THE CAMOUFLAGE WAS THAT WE WOULD -- WE OFFERED AND ARE STILL OFFERING TO PAINT THE POLE, OUR REPRESENTATION AT THAT TIME WAS THAT PAINT IS HARD TO MAINTAIN AND CAN OFTEN TIMES END UP LOOKING WORSE THAN THE GALVANIZED STRUCTURE.

BUT, THE PAINT, IF YOU WANTED IT PAINTED BLUE LIKE THE SKY, OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM TILLMAN AND AGAIN DANIELLE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN MORE DETAIL, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IS WHAT WE OFFERED AFTER THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING BOARD, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND THAT WHAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD.

BUT, CERTAINLY, DANIELLE CAN TALK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS.

>>> YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? >>> I APOLOGIZE, TARA DUE WEST,

ON BEHALF OF TILLMAN STRUCTURE. >>> YOU WERE INTOERN IN AND SO

WERE YOU, DANIELLE? >>> YES.

>>> THANK YOU. >>> SO TODAY YOU HAVE PROPOSED A GALVANIZED POLE WITH EXPOSED ANTENNAS IS THAT THE ONLY OPTION

AVAILABLE. >>> NO, IT IS NOT THE ONLY

OPTION. >>> YOU HAVE TO GOAT TO THE

MICROPHONE, GET CLOSER TO YOU. >>> IT IS JUST THE ONLY OPTION, WE DO PAINT TOWERS, AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A 20, 25 YEARS NOW? AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, OF BUILDING CELL TOWERS, PAINTING A TOWER IS, IT LOOKS GOOD FOR THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS AND AFTER THAT, USUALLY THE LANDSCAPE CHANGES, THE COLORS CHANGE, I HAVE DONE SKY BLUE.

I HAVE DONE BROWN FOR THE FIRST 30 FEET, AND THEN TRADITIONALLY DIFFERENT SHADE OF BLUE, AS YOU GO UP.

I -- TO ME, PERSONALLY I THINK IT IS MORE NOTICEABLE.

I THINK YOU NOTICE IT AGAINST THE SKY.

I THINK THE GAL VENIZED STEEL STARTS TO WEATHER, IT DOES, IT IS JUST MY OPINION, AND YOU KNOW I'M NOT THE ONE SITTING THERE LIVING AND LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE TOWER BUT I DO WHERE I LIVE, THERE TONS OF TOWERS BY ME, TOO. SO, PERSONALLY --

>>> >>> I DON'T KNOW IF DOING A 16D PROBABLY MAKE FORT PIERCE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO LOOK AT A

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160-FOOT PALM TREE? SO, I COTHINK PAINTING OR LEAVING IT GALVANIZED STEEL IS ONE OF THE BETTER OPTIONS

VISUALLY,. >>> OKAY.

SO I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAYING IN ABOUT AND ENCLOSED POLE OR TOWER MONOPOLE-TYPE APPLICATION, WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE HAVE OTHER AREAS WITH THOSE, THAT'S RIGHT, MAYBE NOT A FLAG POLE, ONE IS A FLAG POLE ONE THE JUST THE POLE, THE MONOPOLE ITSELF, WITHOUT EMBLEMS OR NAG OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, WHAT OPTION DOS YOU HAVE THERE.

>>> I DON'T HAVE AND OPTION, FOR THAT, T-MOBILE OUR CUSTOMERS R. F. DESIGN, THE ANTENNAS THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW WON'T, WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIT INTO A FLAG POLE THAT I AM AWARE OF.

AT LEAST ONE THAT WE CAN BUILD. WE WILL LET YOU OFF THE HOOK AND GET THE ENGINEER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>>> GREAT. IDENTIFY YOURSELF, SIR AND YOU

WERE SWORN IN? >>> GOOD EVENING PATRICK -- HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING T-MOBILE AND THE RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEER AND REGARDING YOUR QUESTION OF THE TYPE POLES WITH WHAT WE CALL CANISTERS, OR A SLEEVE, SO THAT THE APTENNA AND EQUIPMENT IS NOT VISIBLE, THE LATEST 5G EQUIPMENT GOING BACK A YEAR WE STARTED UPGRADING TOWERS AND NETWORK, PHYSICALLY WILL NOT FIT INSIDE OF THOSE I'M KLO YOU SURE, ESPECIALLY ON AND OLDER TOWER, ARE GOING TO BE MORE NARROW, SO, SAY, LESS THAN 36, MAYBE 28" AND THE NEW 5G ANTENNAS AND WHAT WE CALL TA RADIO, TRANSMITTERS AND RECEIVERS, TRANSRECEIVERS THOSE HAVE BECOME BULKIER BOTH WIDTH AND HEIGHT AND DEPTH, IF YOU TURN IT LIKE THIS THEY HAVE BECOME WIDER SO THEY ADVERTISECLY DON'T FIT WITHIN THE ENCLOSED SPACES.

OTHER ISSUES WITH THE OLDER FLAG POLE DESIGNS, IS THAT ONE THEY NOT MEANT TO HOLD HEAVIER EQUIPMENT.

LET TAKE THE PANELS OFF, RIGHT? WE WILL EXPOSE ANTENNAS T TOWER ITSELF, BECAUSE IT IS, IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO HOLD THE NEW, THE NEWER RADIOS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND IN THE THIRD REASON, WHY 5G COMPATIBLE, 5G EQUIPMENT IS ALL COMPATIBLE WITH THE ENCLOSED TOWERS IS THE 5G EQUIPMENT GENERATE AS LOT OF HEAT, NOW, I'M NOT TALKING BURNING HOT, BUT, I THINK AROUND 180-200 DEGREES, THE AMPLIER WILL SHUT DOWN F. IT IN AND ENCLOSED SPACE AND NO TYPE OF ACTIVE COOLING LITTLE FANS OR LIKE A LOUVREED OR A SLOTTED KA MUSTER TEETH SHEATHE THE RADIOS WILL OVERHEAT AND WE HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN. SO, THAT IS THE THIRD REASON WE CANNOT DEPLOY 5G EQUIPMENT INTO THESE OLDER TOWERS.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BACK FIT THESE OLDER TOWERS WITH THE -- THAT COOLING SYSTEM, SO YOU KNOW IT IS JUST THE SHEETING YOU CAN PROBABLY DO, BUT THE FANS, THE SPECIAL FANS WOULDN'T BE SPACE BECAUSE THE TOWERS ARE VERY CONSTRAINED.

>>> SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO, COMMISSIONER KEEN, WHAT IS THE -- AS THE DESIGN ENGINEER OR AS THE R. F. ENGINEER WHAT IS THE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IN THE FUTURE? IS IT TO PUT THESE GALVANIZED ARRAY STRUCTURES WITH THE TRIANGULAR PIECE AT THE TOP EVERY WHERE, OR WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR FIELD DOING TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING YOU JUST MENTIONED? SO THAT IS PART OF OUR PLANNING, WE IDENTIFY AREAS IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA MARKET, MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES WE LIVE AND WORK FOR MANY YEARS DOWN HERE, WE ARE IN THERE WITH DAILY USE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE SERVICE. YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO A LOT OF, I WORK ON THE NEW TOWER AND IT IS A MONTANA POLE, A STEELTURE WITH THE TRIANG PARTICULAR PLATFORM AT THE TOP AND FROM A NETWORK PLANNING STAND POICHT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, THE BEST WAY TO DO THINGS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY AND A TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT GETS INSTALLED ON TOP AND OPERATIONALLY, TECH NIXES YOU KNOW, TERK NIXES YOU HAVE TO GO FIX THINGS SOMETIMES, WHEN TECH INVESTIGATIONS THIS E PLOITD IT IS A MUCH MORE SIMPLE FIX, OR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY, AND IN TERMS OF DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, MONOPOLE TOWERS I WOULD BE A VERY, I MEAN EVERYTHING IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT AGAINST HURRICANE STRENGTH WINDS, BUT MONOPOLE TOWER IS VERY SIMPLE STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE IS OTHER STRUCTURES, FLAG POLES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE COMPLICATED TO DO MAINTENANCE WORK ON IT IS MY POINT. SO, YES, WE ARE PLANNING GAL VENIZED TOWERS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE NETWORK, YOU KNOW,

CURRENTLY. >>> OKAY.

DI DIDN'T HEAR TOO MUCH OF WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS BUT THAT IS OKAY, YOU ARE UNDER, YOU ARE TESTIFYING SO I DON'T WANT TO,

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YOU KNOW, PINPOINT YOU TOO, TOO MUCH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SO, I HEARD A NUMBER EARLIER OF, UM, THAT THE TILLMAN GROUP HAS 1600, OVER 1600 ACROSS THE NATION, 600 PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT, DOES THAT STRUCTURE REPLICATE THIS DESIGN ALSO? ALL THESE AREAS? I MEAN WE ARE LOOKING AT 5G, SO WE ARE ALL DATA USERS PROBABLY IN THIS ROOM, RIGHT IN SO, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU AS AND ENGINEER OR THE TILLMAN GROUP? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS PROPOSED.

>>> YOU WJTDED TO KNOW THE 1600 TOWERS ALREADY BUILT.

>>> RESTATE YOUR NAME. >>> DANIELLE PETTY.

>>> SORRY. >>> YEAH, SO, I WOULD I GUESS NARROW IT DOWN TO A SIMILAR STRUCTURE TO WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO NIGHT. SO, I DON'T WANT TO IF BACK IN TIME TO THE 3G AND THE 9G, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE

LOOKING AT TODAY. >>> SO,TYMAN STRUCTURE BUILDS MONOPOLES, WE BUILD CELL SUPPORT TOWER AND GUIDE SUPPORT TOWER, YES, I DOILY BUILT WHEN THEY ARE OVER 300 FEET TALL, AND MOST OF THOSE ARE IN THE MIDWEST, ON THE EAST COAST, MOST OF THE TOWERS HAPPEN TO BE MONOPOLES WE HAVE SOME SELF-SUPPORT TOWERS, AND ABOUT 300 FEET TO 180, ANYTHING LOWER THAN 180 WE USUALLY GO WITH MONOPOLE. SO WE DO A LOT OF IT BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT, THE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE A LOT OF CELL SUPPORT TOWERS IN ALABAMA, ALSO DID A NUMBER OF MONOPOLES AS

WELL. >>> OKAY.

SO, ALL RIGHT, SO, CERTAIN PRE PERCENTAGE, YOUR PERCENTAGE OF 1600 IS, WHAT, IN MONOPOLE, SIMILAR TO THIS DESNEEN WHAT TO

YOU THINK? >>> IS YOUR GUESSTIMATE?

>>> 20%, 15%. >>> OKAY.

THAT IS MOSTLY A -- WELL, I MEAN A MARKET LIKE WE ARE LOOKING AT

TODAY? >>> CORRECT.

YES. >>> OKAY.

WHO CAN I TALK TO ABOUT THE GENERATOR? HE HAS GOT, HOW IS IT POWERED AND WHAT IS THE STORAGE OF THE GENERATOR, WHAT IS, DOES VITT A BELLY TANK, BECAUSE IT IS DIESEL OR NATURAL GAS? SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH THAT,

PLEASE. >>> YOU ALWAYS COMING ONE NEW QUESTION, LET ME LOOK AT SPECIFICATION.

>>> I APOLOGIZE.

GIVE ME A MOMENT TO LOOK, I'M SURE WE HAVE THE SPECIFICATIONS FROM SAVER INDUSTRIES, A I NOT AND EXPERT BUT WE HAVE A SUBMITTAL THAT COVERS THE FULL STRUCTURAL DESIGN, WHETHER I CAN PLUCK THAT PARTICULAR INFORMATION OUT OF HERE I DON'T KNOW. DUCKY, IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND I CAN CERTAINLY TRY. IF SOMEONE BEHIND ME GETS IT

FIST THEY CAN JUMP UP HERE. >>> WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, WHY DON'T WE -- WHILE WE ARE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT, RATHER THAN ME WAISTING YOUR TIME LOOKING THROUGH THIS, WE HAVE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE AND ANSWER TO THE QUESTION AND WE WE CAN DO A REBUTTAL IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>>> , STRUCTURE AND/OR THE TANK IF IT IS A DIESEL POWERED TYPE JEP RAINTOR, IS A DEPP ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION REGULATE AND HOW DOES TILLMAN ADDRESS THAT IN THEIR

MAINTENANCE PLAN? >>> TANIELLE PETTY AGAIN.

UM, SO WE DO FILE FUR OR GENERATOR, WE DO LIKE AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FILING, YEAH, WE WOULD ALSO CHECK TO SEE IF WE HAVE TO FILE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MOST OF THE GENERATORS ARE DIESEL, I DON'T PARTICULARLY KNOW ON THIS ONE WHAT IT IS. I WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT T-MOBILE IS REQUIRING. BUT MOST OF THEM ARE, AND THEY ARE MAINTAINED, SO, WE DO HAVE PAPER FILING WE HAVE TO DO FOR

ALL THE GENERATORS. >>> ALL RIGHT.

THISNESS YOU. >>> IT IS CHANGED OUT, TOO, DEPENDING UPON YEAR-TO-YEAR, SOMETIMES WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IF WE ORDER A GENERATOR IT CAN BE A 22 MODEL AND THEN WE CAN'T GET IT SO THEN IT IS NEXT YEAR SO WE HAVE TO REFILE EVERYTHING

AGAIN. >>> LUCKY YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

PROBABLY. COMMISSIONER GAYNES? JUST A QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, SO IT IS POWER BY GENERATOR, AND I'M JUST A COUNTRY BOY FROM DOWN HERE, WHEN I HEAR GENERATOR I HEAR A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOISE.

SO ARE THESE GENERATORS GOING TO CREATE NOISE IN THIS AREA, ARE THEY SILENT GENERATORS? I DON'T KNOW THE THAT IS A THING. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU SAY GENERATORS NOW AND YOU SAYING GUESS LEAN GENERATORS AND IS IT, DOES IT RUN ALL NIGHT? HOW DOES IT RUN? IS IT 24 HOURS RUNNING? IS IT NOISE, CREATING NOISE?

WHAT IS -- >>> IT WOULD RETURN RUN DURING

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A POWER OUTAGE, IT WOULD DO TESTS LIKE A JEN RANK YOU WOULD GET FOR YOUR HOUSE, IT DOES NORMAL TESTING AND REMEMBER, I THINK IT IS FIVE MINUTES IT GOES ON, JUST TO DO A NORMAL TEST I THINK IT IS EVERYTHING MONTH IT DOES IT.

IT IS DIESEL. THAT IS WHAT WE THOUGHT.

SO, YEAH. >>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

>>> YES. >>> THE GENERATOR, WILL ONLY

RUN DURING A POWER OUTAGE. >>> CORRECT.

THAT IS THE ONLY NEED FOR IT. >>> IN KISS OF COMMUNICATION

FOR -- >>> EVERYBODY IS HERE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND TO HEAR EAGLE GOING ON WITH THE PROJECT SO, THE QUESTION CAME UM, THAT QUESTION CAME UP, SO I ASKED THE

QUESTIONS. >>> VERY GOOD QUESTION.

>>> WE ARE ALSO TESTING ONCE A WEEK.

SOMETHING LIKE -- I BELIEVE IT IS ONCE A MONTH AND IT TESTS FOR 5-10 MINUTE AND GOES ON LIKE IF YOU HAD A STANDBY GENERATOR FOR

YOUR HOME. >>> ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE

APPLICANT? >>> I DON'T HAVE ANY.

YES, SIR. SURE.

THE LANDSCAPING, SO, WE TALKED ABOUT TREES, YOU HAVE MENTIONED TREES, IN OUR CONVERSATION, SO, THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WE HAVE HAD A VERY IN DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, IT IS THE MOST DENSE WITH EXISTING VEGETATION, I BELIEVE THERE SA LOT OF PINE TREMENDOUS ON THIS WILLCATION IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN? IN OUR CONVERSATION? SO WE ARE IMPACTING A FOOTPRINT AREA, WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE EXISTING AND HOW ARE WE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT.

>>> OKAY. WE DID DISCUSS THAT AND WHAT WE OFFERED TO DO IS GO BACK AND LOCK AT THE INITIAL LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND SEE WHAT WE COULD OFFER MORE TREES FOR BOTH THE BENEFIT OF REPLACING TREES THAT WERE TAKING OUT AND ALSO FOR ADDITIONAL BUFFERING. I CAN SUBMIT THIS TO THE RECORD FOR CLERK, BUT I APOLOGIZE LITERALLY BEFORE THE MEETING OR I WOULD HAVE SUBMITTED IT TO YOU EARLIER BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE RIGHT THING THIS. IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE THREE ADDITIONAL SHADE TREE, CANOPY TREES WE ARE PROPOSING THE LITTLE RED, FOR THE BENEFIT

OF EVERYBODY ELSE THAT -- >>> PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD, IF YOU CAN. AND THEN YOU CAN --

>>> LOOK AT THAT, SO MODERN OF YOU.

>>> WE ARE DOING IT,. >>> TARA DEWEY FOR THE RECORD, YES. THANK YOU.

THE ISSUE YOU WE HAVE AND WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO SPEAK TO A LAND OWNER IS OUR LEASE AREA IS COVERED BY THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WE ALREADY HAVE, SO WE HAVE PUT IN ADD MANY ADDITIONAL THAT I HAD TREES TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE POTENTIAL FOR SWALE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE ASKED.

SO, IN ORDER FOR US TO PLANT TREES OUT OF THE LEASE AREA ON THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS ABUTTING ROADWAYS WE HAVE TO REACH OUT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND UNDERSTAND GENERALLY THAT SHE IS AMEMBERRABLE TO US DOING THAT, AND SO WE WOULD BE OPEN TO PLANTING TREES IN THE PERIMETER AREA IF THAT WAS THE WILL, UNFORTUNATELY, MY LANDSCAPE PLANNER WAS NOT ABLE TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE IN TERMS OF SPACING AND ALL OF THAT WHICH IS A -- VERY NECK TIKAL JOB, BUT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK INTO DOING WHAT IS REASONABLE IN THAT REGARD, AND WORKING WITH THE LAND OWNER LIKE I SAID, TO

EFFECTUATE THAT. >>> OKAY.

SO IN THIS PICTURE HERE, WHICH I THINK -- THE.

>>> THE RED, YES --

>>> >>> I DIDN'T KNOW WE STILL HAD OVERHEADS, I LOVE IT. THE YELLOW ON THE GRAPHIC IS THE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE LEASE AREA THAT IT IS PLANTING ADDITIONAL TREES BUT THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE CURRENT LEASE AREA, THEY WOULD NEED THE COOPERATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

BY WILL DO IT AND WE UNDERSTAND HE WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT IF

IT IS REASONABLE. >>> AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS OKAY, OBVIOUSLY OKAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE AND AGREEMENT SO FAR FROM LETTER OF INTENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT.

>>> FOR THE LEASE AREA, YEAH, REMOVAL OF ANY EXISTING.

>>> CORRECT, LEASE AREA IN OUR CONTROL, THE OUTSIDE IS NOT NECESSARILY BUT WE HAVE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS THAT SEEM FIND KATE THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

>>> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SCHEMATIC? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YES? OKAY. OKAY.

NOW WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC AND SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU WILL LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN

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IN AND SO IF SOMEONE WILL COME FORWARD AND THEN IF YOU CAN FORM A LITTLE LINE, EITHER ALONG THE SIDE OR DOWN THE MIDDLE, SO THAT WE CAN DO THIS EFFICIENTLY, I WOULD LOVE THAT.

WHO IS GOING TO GO FIRST? SIR? I THINK YOU GOT UP FIRST? PURCHASE GOOD EVENING TO THE COMMISSION, I'M MAXY ELLIS, M. A. X. Y. ELLIS, LIFE LONG

RESIDENT. >>> YOU WESTERN IN, SIR?

>>> YES, SWORN IN, CONCERNED CITIZEN HERE, SPEAKING FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO NIGHT NOT GET A CHANCE TO COME UP TODAY.

WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CELL PHONE TOWER BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHERE IT HAS OPINION PROPOSED, VERY MUCH IN OPPOSITION OF IT.

MANY YEARS AGO, MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO MY FATHER WAS A POLICE OFFICER HERE IN FORT PIERCE, GAVE HIS LIFE TO THE CITY, DIED DOING HIS JOB. THERE WAS A STATUE ERECTED FOR HIM RECENTLY. MY MOTHER LIVED HERE FOR 0 YEARS, AS A TEACHER FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, I'M AND EDUCATOR AS WELL AND EDUCATOR AS WELL AND I WORKED AND LIVE HERE AS WELL, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS STRUCTURE BEING IN THE MILLED OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS STRUCTURE, 160 FEET TALL, WILL GET OUT WHAT IS CALLED NINE IONIZING RADIATION, WHICH IS HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH AND CAN CAUSE DEATH, IT HAS BEEN PROBLEM. I GET THIS INFORMATION FROM A COMPANY CALLED ENRHINE ON IC AND THEY DO TESTING ON THIS AND THE HEAT IS REDDUATION, 160 FEET AND GOES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND RAINS DOWN ON OUR AREA. CELT VERY HARMFUL, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HERER PROM NEBLGHT LIVE IN A SHADOW OF THIS PROPOSED SITE, FORMER COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER AND HIS FAMILY STILL LEAVE THERE, THE GAYNES FAMILY, LIVE NEARBY, SO THE SCOTTS, THE BETHEL, MY FAMILY THE ELLIS FAMILY AND MANY OTHER FAMILIES ALSO MY CHURCH, WHICH MANY OF THE MEMBERS ARE HERE FROM OUR PERCH TODAY, VERY MUCH IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROPOSED SITE WE FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD FIND ANOTHER BETTER SITE THAT IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENCE, RIGHT IN OUR FRONT YARD, MATTER OF FACT, AND MY NEIGHBOR SEAN BEBETHEL PUT UP A GREAT STRUCTURE NEXT TO ME WHERE SHE WILL BE DOING COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND WHAT THIS DOES, BY PUTTING THIS PROPERTY, THIS STRUCTURE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY IT LOWERS OUR PROPERTY VALUE, FOR ONE, AND CAUSES TO US LOSE VALUE OF THE HOMES.

THE LEADS LIVE NEARBY AND ST. PAUL IS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AS WELL. I JUST WANT THE SAY ON THE RECORD THAT I'M VERY DISAPPOINTD THAT THE PERSON WHO NOW OWNS THIS PROPERTY, MR. ALVIN MILLER WHO IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, AND I DONE EVEN KNOW IF HE WAS ANY REPRESENTATION COMING HERE TONIGHT, WOULD ACTUALLY APPROVE OF SUCH A STRUCTURE BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN WE ARE ALL IN OPPOSITION OF THIS.

PUZ OF HARM THAT IT CAN CAUSE. SO, MR. MILLER SAID HE WOULD BUILD SOME APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, BUT BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN TO HIMSELF HE AGREED TO DO THIS THAT IS MY OPINION. AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD THING FOR OUR IT IS ZIPS, WHO SUPPORT THIS COMMISSION, AND VOTE FOR THE COMMISSION WE ASK THAT YOU GUYS ASK THEM TO FIND A BETTER LOCATION, NOT NEXT TO MY CHURCH, ST. PAUL THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 126 YEARS, OKAY, NO THE IN MY FRONT YARD, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, WE ARE VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS, AND WE ARE DISAPPOINTD THAT MR. MILLER WOULD AGREE TO SUCH A STRUCTURE BEING PUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ASKED THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD ASK THIS COMPANY AND THEIR CLIENT TO FIND A BETTER LOCATION, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY LOCATION THAT THEY CAN FIND, WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE. THAT IS NOT TRUE, OKAY.

THEY WON'T BE GIVING US NONIONIZING RADIATION TO BE

RAINED DOWN ON OUR COMMUNITY. >>> THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH P. 36 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT IMRY.

>>> >>> GOOD EVENING I'M LASHON

BELL, B. E. L. L. >>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, THE SAINT LUCIE COUNTY NAACP IS DISHEARTENED TO HEAR ANOTHER CELL TOW HAVEN'T BEING BUILT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, IT IS SAD, OKAY, OCCASION, MR. SCOTT, A FORTH PIERCE LEGEND SOLD THIS LAND UNDER THE PRETENSE THE LAND WOULD BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE ROUTE OF THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE EASY, APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION SHOULD THOUGH A COMPLETE DISCONNECT OF THE NEEDS OF FORT PIERCE'S ECONOMY, THE COMMUNITY IS NOT EXPERIENCING WEAK CELLULAR SERVICE WE ARE HURTING FOR LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

APPROVAL OF THE TOWER DOES NOT CREATE SUSTAINABLE JOBS,

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ECONOMIC GROWTH, NOR DOES IT PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AND AREA WHERE MOST RESIDENTS ARE IN HOME THIS CAN BARELY AFFORD. THE CONSTITCHES ELECT YOU IN THE DISTRICT YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE ASKING THE WHOLE COMMISSION FOR ONCE CONSIDER ALL THE DISTRICTS IN DISTRICT 9 AND NOT FRIEND, BROTHERS POTENTIAL BUSINESS PARTNERS, KICKBACKS, OR SUCH, AND DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY TILLMAN STRUCTURE.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT WE CARE ABOUT DISTRICT 1.

THE DISTRICT MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE LONG FORGOTTEN. WE DEMAND THAT YOU DENY THIS APPLICATION AND ALLOW THE LAND TO BE USED FOR SOMETHING TO BUILD AND BENEFIT ALL OF THIS DISTRICT 1.

THANK YOU. >>> THANK YOU.

MA'AM. >>> GOOD EVEN, EVERYONE, I'M MICHAEL LATTIMORE, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY POSITION WITH THE 160 TOWER TO BE BUILT ON 27TH STREET I THINK IN THIS AREA. I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER ADJACENT TO WHERE THEY ARE PLANNING TO PUT THIS TOWER. MR. SCOTT, MR. SCOTT AND I, WHO WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER, BEFORE MR. ALVIN MILLERP PURCHASED IT, HE AND I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.

HE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I HAD PLANNED TO DO ON IT.

I TOLD HIM, I'M A RETIRED MIAMI-DADE FIREFIGHTER AND THAT IS WHERE MY RETIREMENT HOME IS SUPPOSED TO GO.

LO AND BEHOLD I HAD NO IDEA ANYBODY WAS PLANNING ON PUTTING A 160-FOOT TOW INFORM THE AREA. LIKE SE NED THE PREVIOUS MEETING I WAS HERE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU GUYS WOULD WANT THAT TOWER AROUND YOUR HOMES. WE HAVE GOT CHILDREN AND IF THIS THING GIVES OUT SO MUCH HEAT IT CAN'T BE COVERED UP WHAT IS IT DOING TO US? BY DENT KNOW.

STUDIES HAVEN'T BEEN DONE. SO, AT THIS STAGE, LONG AS IT IS THERE, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK YOU GUYS PROBABLY ALREADY GOT YOUR MIND MADE UP ON HOW YOU GOING TO VOTE.

AND SO, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING SAID HERE IS GOING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND. SO, I STILL THINK IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO STAND UP HERE AND EXPRESS MY VIEWS ON THE TOWER BEING BUILT. THAT LG YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR? GO OOMG.

CITY OF FORT PIERCE,. >>> WERE YOU SWORN

COMMISSIONER. >>> YES, MA'AM.

TOWERS ISSUE, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WE HAVE ABOUT THREE TOWERS NOW. IT IS KIND OF IRONIC THAT WE WOULD HAVE A CITY WITH A BEACH OVERLAY, RESTRICTS 665 FEET, HOWEVER, THE MAINLAND ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING UP A TOWER ABOUT 160 FEET.

SO JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE GOT TO TOWER DOWN THE STREET THERE. THE RADIATION, A P ALSO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE OF IT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY COLLEAGUE, BUT SHE SHOULD HAVE MADE YOU AWARE OF THAT -- MIDDLE DISTRICT COURT OP APPEALS FEDERAL COURT DECISION IN CHILDREN'S HEALTH SOCIETY VERSUS THE FCC.

AND YOU CAN GET THE CASE, WE WILL PULL IT FUNNER YO IF SHE HAS NOT ALREADY. THERE A CASE WHERE THE CHILDREN'S HEALTH SOCIETY, WENT AND APPEALED THE DECISION OF THE FCC, THE FCC REGULATES TOWERS, THEY PUT IN THE ARE STRICTIONS BUT THE MOST POWER COURT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEXT TO THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE, YES, THE STANDARDS THE WAY YOU REVIEW THIS CASE, WAS IMPROPER.

SO THAT SENT IT BACK TO THE COURTS.

REMANDED IT BACK TO THE COURTS AND WE WILL READ YOU A CUP THINGS THEY STARTED, COURT OP A APPEALS IN THE RULING, AS FAR AS THERE BEING VAST AMOUNTS OF SPECIFIC EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT THE CURRENT GUIDELINES DO NOT QUAD KILOWATTLY PROTECT THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS STATED BY THE FCC, THEY DRIVER SIDE NOT PROPERLY ASSESS THE CASE.

THEY FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, LET ALONE RESPOND TO COMMENTS CONCERNING THE IMPACT OF RADIATION IN THE ENVIRONMENT, THEY WENT ON TO SAY THE RECORDS CONTAIN SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE OF POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, HARM, BUT THE COURT FAILED TO

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ASSESS IT. IT USED TO BE A TIME, THESE FCC REGULATIONS WERE NUT PUT IN PLACE AND PEOPLE AT THE TOWER COMPANIES AND THE LOBBYISTS AND THEY PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN PLACE AS FAR AS MEETING HEALTH REQUIREMENTS WERE CONCERNED BUT THIS COURT, THE MOST POWERFUL COURT NEXT TO THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT IS NO LONG THEREFORE CASE.

LOO. THERE IS TOO MUCH EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE PLAINTIFFS, CHILDREN'S HEALTH SOCIETY, YOU DIDN'T REVIEW IT, YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT IT SO, GUESS WHAT, WITHRY GOING TO SEND IT BACK. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO?

>>> >>> IF, IN FACT, THE WAY THIS IS HEADED IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION, AND OVERTURNING THE FCC REGULATIONS, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE.

AGAIN, I SAY TO YOU, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH WITH THESE TOWERS.

WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM IN PLACE NOW.

IT JUST DISTURBS ME WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ANOTHER TOWER UP, THERE IS ONE THREE BLOCKS DOWN THE ROAD.

>>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>> LET'S PUT ONE ON THE BEACH DOWNTOWN, THERE IS ANOTHER AREA DOWNTOWN.

>>>

>>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. I'M SAMUEL GAYNES, SWORN IN, I PREPARED SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT BUT SITTING HERE LISTENING MY MIND STARTED WONDERING BACK, I'M A PRODUCT OF FORT PIERCE FOR 84, ALMOST 95 YEARS.

I GREW UP IN FRONT OF A PARK THAT, BECAUSE I WAS NOT A LITTLE LIGHTER COULD GO INTO. I HAD PEOPLE THAT GREW UP THERE WITH ME, WE HAD TO MAKE OUR WAY BETWEEN 9TH STREET AND EIGHTH STREET WHICH NOW YOU WANT THE SAY 9TH STREET WILL BE YOUR DOWNTOWN. BUT, THAT WAS NOT DOWNTOWN THEN.

BUT, BETWEEN SEVENTH AND 9TH, THAT IS WHERE THEEPS PEOPLE, OUR PEOPLE, FOUND LIVING QUARTERS. AND FROM THAT THEY MOVED OUT INTO THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF FORT PIERCE.

BUILT HOMES. BUILT COMMUNITIES.

THEREFORE, WE ARE A STRIVING COMMUNITY.

FORTH PIECE IS LARGE. NOW, ONE TOWER GOT BY.

BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT. NOW, I UNDERSTAND AND HEARD THAT TONIGHT AND THE OTHER NIGHT IT WAS HIRED TO PUT UP AND INFORMATION SIGN TO RECOMMEND ABOUT THE MEETING.

BUT, PROPERTY RUNS FROM 25TH STREET TO 27TH STREET.

THE PROPOSED SITE IS ON 27TH STREET END.

THEY WENT AND PUT A SIGN FACING A NOTE ON THAT STREET, BEHIND 25TH, NOBODY GOING DOWN 25TH STREET CAN SEE IT.

THEY CAN'T READ IT. THEY PROPOSED WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE SITE. THAT IS IT.

BUT NOW, WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT OTHER AREAS IN FORT PIERCE? THERE IS OTHER AREAS THAT ARE LARGER THAN WHAT WE CALL THE BLACK AREA. I'M GOING THE SAY IT LIKE IT IS.

THIS IS HERE BECAUSE WE THINK, WE ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

FORT PIERCE, WHERE ARE THE TOWERS ALL OVER THE TOWN? WHERE ARE THAT THEY? DO YOU HAVE ANY? WE MISSED OUR ONE, BECAUSE MONEY WAS INVOLVED AND NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON SO THEREFORE IT WENT UP AND WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING AND IT WAS UP THAT WHY THIS ONE WANTS TO GO UP, TOO, THE SAME THING. BUT WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP? FORT PIERCE IS LARGE ENOUGH, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF FORT PIERCE TO PUT TOWERS? FIND SOME AREA IN FORT PIERCE TO PUT TOWERS.

WE ARE SICK OF BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

I HAD SOME WRITTEN, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T READ WHAT I SHOULD HAVE READ WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT WHETHER I HAD WRITTEN BUT SITTING HERE LISTENING TO WHAT GOING ON, I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED TO DO SOMETHING BUT REALLY, I HAVE SEEN FORT PIERCE GROW, AND I HAVE SEEN THESE PEOPLE THAT SITTING HERE NOW, I KNEW THEIR PARENT, I KNEW WHAT THE STRUGGLE TO GET WHERE THEY ARE.

THEY HAD TO WORK FOR WHAT THEY GOT BUT NOW THEY HAVE SOMETHING NOW HERE YOU GO, DILUTE IT BY PUTTING TOWERS ALL OVER I. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

>>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>>

>>> GOOD EVENING I'M SHONDA BETHEL AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

>>> I CAN'T, SAY IT GAIN. >>> SEANDA BETHEL AND I HAVE

BEEN SWORN IN. >>> GOOD EVEN, EVERYONE.

I RESIDE AT 2602 AVENUE P., I AM NORTH OF THIS MONSTROSITY'S JUST ABOUT TO BE BUILT. LESS THAN 900 FEET AWAY FROM MY FRONT DOOR. ONCE AGAIN, LIKE THEY SAID, THIS

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SIGN THAT WAS PUT ON AVENUE O., IF I HAD NOT BEEN CALLED, I WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN IT. I PROMISE YOU, THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT TEN PEOPLE THAT TO UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD EVERY DAY.

I LIVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, WHICH IS AVENUE P., WE HAVE THE ONE STOP, WITH ECKLES RESTAURANT, WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT ROAD STAY AS LIT BIT BUSY.

AND OF COURSE 25TH STREET IS ALWAYS BUZZING.

MY FATHER LEFT HERE JANUARY THE 27TH OF THIS YEAR.

HE LEFT THIS WORLD. HE LEFT ME WITH A DUTY THAT WAS TO TAKE CARE OF 2602 AVENUE P. AND MY NEIGHBORS.

JUST AS HE DID, AND MY MOTHER DID, DOROTHY BETHEL, BOTH EDUCATORS, 35 AND 38 YEARS, SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, PROUD PEOPLE, CARING PEOPLE, LOVING PEOPLE.

WHAT THEY LEFT BEHIND I PUT BACK INTO THE HOME.

RENOVATION, IF YOU LOOK AROUND FROM 27TH AVENUE P., AVENUE Q., YOU WILL SEE ALL THESE% PEOPLE NOW RENOVATING, TAKING PRIDE, TAKING PRIDE, OWNERSHIP, HONORING.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THIS TOWER IS DISRESPECTFUL.

THIS MAN GREW UP IN THE AREA, GREW UP, MY FATHER WAS A COACH, I SAW HIM AT THE HOUSE ALL THE TIME.

OKAY. DON'T DO THAT.

DON'T DO THIS TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

DON'T DO IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED YOU GET WHERE YOU ARE.

DON'T FORGET WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND BY THE WAY I'M A CANCER SURVIVOR, AND NO, I DON'T TRUST WHAT T-MOBILE SAYS.

I FIGHT ENVIRONMENTAL THING EVERY DAY.

IMPOSSIBLE. NOBODY KNEW.

NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THAT MEETING. I'M GOING TO ASK ONE QUESTION AND I WANT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TO THINK ABOUT IT.

WE JUST HAD A HURRICANE, CORRECT? 185 MILES PER HOUR WIND, RIGHT? WE WERE TOLD AT 151, 158, I WANT THE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TOWERS.

OVER THIS. ANYWHERE IN THAT VICINITY, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TOWERS? DID THEY --

>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

>>> >>> GOOD EVENING, AYE OWE NIS JEFFERSON, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, AND GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS I ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED OR TALKED ABOUT, BUT AS I WAS STANDING UP AGAINST THE WALL, I'M LOOKING AT THE FRONT ROW. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS TOLD IF I MAY SA THAT, OR SOME UNTRUTHS WERE TOLD ABOUT THE SIGN BEING POST AND NOT BE INN TO THE COMMUNITY OR NOTIFYING THE POLICE, I MEAN THE COMMUNITY. BUT BEING THAT AS I'M SITTING HERE, EVERYTHING EVERYONE IS ON THE TELEPHONE TEXTING AWAY. SO, THEREFORE, IT IS SHOWING ME AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ELSE THAT CAN SEE, THAT THERE IS CONCERN, ABOUT WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE FEEL ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. HOW YOU IT IS IN A MEETING, TO ASK FOR SOMETHING, BUT YOU IT IS THERE AND YOU ARE JUST TEXTING AWAY ON YOUR TELEPHONE TO RANDOM CONVERSATIONS.

A LACK OF DISRESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY, A LACK OF DISRESPECT TO YOU COMMISSIONERS, AND JUST A LACK OF DISRESPECT WHERE I CAN SAY, I DON'T CARE THEY ARE BUSY DOING NOTHING, HAVING A PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS. SO, I'M NOT GOING TO BE REDUNDANT, BE REPETITIVE, BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, BUT IT JUST TOUCHED ME TO STAND OVER THERE TO WAIT FOR MY TURN TO SPEAK. AND THERE ARE TEXTING AWAY, NOT EVEN PAYING ATTENTION, NOT EVEN THIS BECAUSE MOST OF US ARE NOT DUAL. SO, I ASK YOU, AS A COMMISSIONERS, WE VOTED FOR YOU, PLUS YOU ARE IN OFFICE TO SERVE AND PROTECT. PROTECT US.

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PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, YOU ALREADY HAVE THREE TOWERS IN THE AREA. WE DON'T NEED A FOURTH ONE.

LET THEM TAKE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.

>>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>>> >>>

>>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GLORIA M. JOHNSON SCOTT. AND I WAS SWORN IN ALREADY.

MAYOR HUDSON AND COMMISSIONERS I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN, AND IN THEIR COMMUNICATION IS CLEAR, AND IN ADDITION TO THEIR COMMUNICATION, I HAVE PETITIONS THAT I WILL GIVE EACH OF YOU, WHERE THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE FURTHER SPOKEN.

IN MOST OF YOUR -- IN YOUR FOLDERS EXCEPT FOR THE MAYOR'S FOLDER, YOU WILL SEE 149 NAMES ON YOUR PETITION, MAYOR, IN YOUR FOLDER, THERE ARE OVER 200 NAMES OP PETITION.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS SOME PETITIONS WERE HANDED TO ME AS WE CAME IN TONIGHT. BUT IN'T THE SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND THEN HAVING LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION AGAIN TONIGHT, THE PLANNING BOARD SENT A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, WITH THE ECK MENNIZATION THAT THERE WOULD BE A CAMOUFLAGE FOR THE 160-FOOT POLE. I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU CAMOUFLAGE THE 160-FOOT POLE? SECONDLY, IN THE DRAWINGS, THE WOODEN FENCE THAT WOULD GO AROUND THE POLE, IS 8 FEET AND THEN YOU WILL PUT SHRUBBERY AROUND THAT.

9 FEET IS AS SOMEONE DESCRIBED EARLIER, A MONSTROSITY IN THAT COMMUNITY. THAT DOES NOTHING FOR THE AESTHETICS OF THE COMMUNITY, AS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THIS CITY'S ORDINANCE. IT CERTAINLY DOES NOTHING TO ELIMINATE CRIME, AS YOU CAN SEE --

>>> THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THEY HAVE A PLAN TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS BE I DID NOT HEAR A TIMELINE OAR DATE FOR THE PLANS THEY WERE PROPOSING FOR THE ENCLOSURE OF THE TOWERS.

ALSO I DID NOT HEAR A TIMELINE FOR REMOVING POLES THAT ARE NO LONGER IN USE. I DID HEAR, AND I BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY'S STATEMENT, SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD TONIGHT, THERE ARE TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

FROM TILLMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM? TESTIFY GOOD EVENING I'M APDRE DAY PLANNERRIER, SWORN IN. I AM A NATIVE HERE OF SAINT LUCIE COUNTY 36 YEARS RETIRED EDUCATOR.

I AM A PASTOR, JUST BOUGHT A BEAUTIFUL EDIFICE, FRESH FIER CHURCH, SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL, JUST RECEIVE YOUR GOLD HAMMER AWARD. THANK YOU.

WHEN I COULD HAVE GONE SOMEWHERE ELSE, MOVE SOUTH, I STAYED HERE, AND MR. SCOTT, MR. NICHOLS BUILT MY HOME.

SO, K SEE HIS HOME ON 25TH STREET, -- YOU CAN REST ASSURED HOW BEAUTIFUL MY HOME IS. WHEN I BUILT THE CHURCH I WANTED TO BEAUTIFY MY HOME. I GOT OFFERS FOR A TOWERS, AND HERE IS THE TEMPTATION. I GOT A MORTGAGE.

AND SO, THE TEMPTATION WAS, I CAN MAKE S MONEY.

PROBABLY PAY OFF MY MORTGAGE. BUT, LISTEN, I WOULD NEVER TEAR DOWN WHAT I AM TRYING TO BUILD UP.

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>>> >>> -- IN. I'M GOING TRY NOT TO REPEAT SOMETHING MY WIFE HAS SAID, WE SHARE THIS INFORMATION, BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

>>> >>> -- WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE TENT KNOW WHO TO TRUST ANYMORE.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY SINCE BEFORE 12,000, BACK IN 1999, 98, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT PIECE OF P PROPERTY USED TO BE A -- P. WHEN I MOVED THERE IN 1962. AND LONG STORY SHORT, I MADE IT A DEAL WITH THE OWNERS AFTER THE -- HEY ASKED FOR A COUPLE PATHS AND PASSED THE PROPERTY ALONG TO THE -- ONE OF THE MICHIGAN, SHOWED NO INTEREST IN IT, BUT KNOWING I HAD BEEN LOOKING AFTER HER RELATIVES, THE OLD FOLK, BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT THERE, DURING HURRICANE SEASON AND WHAT NOT, SHE GAVE ME AND OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE IT. SHE WAS NOT GOING TO SELLETTE SHE SAID BUT WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IS IT -- -- IN THE MEANTIME, THE CITY WAS HARASSING HER ABOUT KEEPING THE PLACE CLOSED.

NORTH. >>> AND SHE SAID THE GRACE I GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF, I COME TO SPEAK WITH THE CITY, AND CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE AND THEN THEY ASSURED ME EVERYTHING IS OKAY.

THEY SAY OH, NO, SHE IS -- SO I GOT A LETTER I SAID SEND ME A COPY OF IT.

I DON'T HAVE THE PHOTO WITH ME BUT I HAVE A COPY OF EACH OF THE LETTERS FROM 2002, UP TO WHEN I PURCHASED THE LAND FROM HER.

OFFICIALLY PRES PURCHASED THE L. THEY WERE STILL HARASSING HER BECAUSE OF -- OKAY. BUT, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL WROTE HER A LETTER APOLOGIZING BECAUSE I HAD BEEN COMING TO HIS OFFICE, DISCUSSING IT AND TAKING CARE OF IT, I EVEN TOOK A PICTURE OF -- I HAD BOUGHT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PROPERTY.

I DIDN'T NEED IT, BUT THAT PROPERTY IS MY PROPERTY TODAY WHICH I SPENT OVER 5,000 REMANDED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT I HAVE IT CLEARED, OKAY.

>>> I'M SORRY, SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP.

I'M SO SORRY. >>> THANK YOU.

>>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>> OH, MY ASK ONE MORE

QUESTION, PLEASE? >>> WON'T GET AND ANSWER, PUT

QUICKLY. >>> I LIKE TO KNOW, ONE, WHEN WAS THE APPLICATION MADE TO DEAL WITH THIS ENGINEERING WORK OEN THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>> THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. >>>

>>> PI NAME IS PEARL DAVIS AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

ASIDE FROM EVERYTHING THAT YOU HEARD THUS FAR, BEING UNLIMITED TO 3 MINUTES I'M GOING ALLOW YOU TO REST WITH THE VARIOUS EMOTIONAL COMEFNLTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SO FAR AND MAY IMPACT YOUR DECISION, BUT THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE EARLIER BY THE COMPANY, STATING THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL, EVIDENCE THOUGHT THE STAND IN THE WAY OF THEIR INTEREST, AND ERECTING SUCH DUE TO REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MET, WHICH THEY HAVE MET ALL THE FCC REQUIREMENTS, AND CITIES AND COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GOVERN OVER CREATING RESTRICTIONS

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INDEPENDENT INDEPENDENTLY. SO, WHAT I SHARE WITH YOU IS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. I WOULD SEE THAT AS BEING THE OPINION OF THOSE WHO FOCUS DIRECTLY ON THE INDUSTRY AND THE MATTER AT HAND AND PRESENT OF THE RESEARCH AND PREPARATION FOR YOUR MEETING, I INQUIRED OF OUR REALTOR, ORGANIZATION AND ASSOCIATION, AND DO DOING SO FOUND THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN THE AREA WE ARE PLANNING TO ERECT THE SUBJECT TOWER, THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IS 191,000. AND THROUGH RESEARCH WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TRUST AND IN THE NATIONAL POST, IT HAS SHARED THAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE A 20% DECLINATION OF THE VALUE OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF, WITHIN THE CERTAIN VICINITY OF THE TOWER SO WITH THAT IN MIND YOU ARE ASKING PEOPLE WHO ENJOINED A SUCCESSFUL SALES RATE OF PUTTING THEIR PROPERTIES ON THE MARKET WITHIN 30 DAYS BEING SUCCESSFULLY BEING ABLE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY ON THE AVERAGE OF THAT AMOUNT, BUT, OTHER SALES WERE NOT COVER RABBLE WHEN YOU ERECT THE TOWER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTIES VALUE AT THE TIME OF THE SALE. SO, WHAT YOU ARE ASKING THESE CONSTITUENTS TO DO IS TAKE A LOSS IN VALUE.

AND IN ADDITION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TRUST WENT FURTHER TO STATE, AND I WILL READ TO YOU, WHICH I PROVIDED IN AND E-MAIL EARLIER AND GOD I HOPE I DON'T GO OVER THE 9 MINUTES BUT, SAY THE PHONE TOWER HAS BEEN EXTRA TAX REVENUE AND BETTER RECEPTION TO A SECTION OF THE CITY BUT MANY ARE SKEPTICAL BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISK AND IMPACT OF PROPERTY VALUE, INCREASING NUMBER OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEAR CELL TOWERS AND IN SOME AREAS, THE NEW TOWERS PROPERTY VALUES HAVE DECREASED BY UP TO 20%. SO YOU ARE ASKING THESE CONSTITUENTS TO TAKE UP TO A 20% LOSS IN VALUE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH T-MOBILE, T-MOBILE, WHO AMERICANED WITH SPRINT,.

>>> >>> YOU ARE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

>>> ASK WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE THE ADDRESS? INANYONE ELSE? LAST CALL? LAST CALL? BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP HERE.

AND GIVE US YOUR CLOSING REM REMARKS.

>>> >>> JUST TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE PUBLIC, I FIRST WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY AD DREGD AND I DON'T NEED TO, THE ASSERTIONS MADE REGARDING ME AND MY COLLEAGUE'S PROFESSIONALISM AS WE SAT THERE. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DID ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THE GENERATOR ON SITE.

SO, I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TEXT MESSAGES FROM MY CLIENT AND IN ORDER TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO CAME UP AND WAS LOOKING AT SOME CASE LAW, OR WAS SPEAKING OF SOME CASE LAW REGARDING THE FCC, SO I WAS A.

TEMPTING TO FIND THAT CASE, AND TO PREPARE STATEMENTS IN REBUTTAL TO THAT. SO, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE IF YOU THOUGHT WE WERE NOT LISTENING OR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS, BUT THAT IS WHAT I WAS DOING ON MY MOBILE PHONE. SECONDLY, IN REGARDS TO THE GO UP COMMENTS REGARDING HEALTH EFFECTS I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT PER 47 U.S.C. 332C 7B 4, MOST STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT MAY REGULATE FACILITIES TON BASIS OF PERCEIVED HEALTH EFFECTS OF RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS EXCEPT TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL R. F. STANDARDS.

I WOULD LIKE AT THE END FOR MR. KEEN TO COME UP AND TO ADDRESS, ALSO, SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO ARE ID OWE FREQUENCY EMISSIONS PAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE THAT ON THE RECORD, SO THAT HE CAN CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE EMISSIONS DO, AND WHAT THEY DON'T DO.

ADDITIONALLY, -- GIVEN THE SMALL FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPERTY, OR THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMEONE

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WHO CAME UP AND MADE COMMENTS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL AND THE PARCEL WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THE TOWER ON THE PARCEL. GUNN THE SMALL FOOTPRINT OF THE TOWER ON THE PARCEL, MANY I COOK PROPOSES TO PUT IT WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED SO THAT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY CAN BE DEVELOPED. THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING THE APPLICATION AND WHEN IT WAS MADE.

OUR APPLICATION WAS MADE ON APRIL 7TH OF 2022, AND I BELIEVE OUR APPLICATION ALONG WITH THE JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT HAS BEEN INCLUDED ON THE WEB SITE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN AND THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW. THERE WAS ALSO QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE EFFICACY OF THE TOWER AND THE STRENGTH OF THE TOWER GIVEN THAT THE HURRICANE THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA, WE HAVE SUBMITTED STATEMENTS IN OUR APPLICATION PACKAGE FROM OUR ENGINEERS, THE PROPOSED TOWER WILL BE DESIGNED TO BUCKLE UPON ITSELF IF THE WIND SPEED IS EXCEEDED, AND I KNOW WE PUT INTO THE RECORD PREVIOUSLY THAT THE, THE TOWER IS CURRENTLY MADE TO WITHSTAND WINDS OF 158 MILES PER HOUR BUT IN THE EVENT THAT WINDS EXCEED THAT WIND SPEED, THE TOWER IS DESIGNED TO BUCKLE UPON ITSELF, AND A PORTION OF THE TOW ALREADY LEAN BE YOU NO FAULT DOWN AND I WILL HAVE MR. KEEN COME UP AND KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION REGARDING THE STRENGTH AND EFFICACY AND THE DESIGN OF THE

PARTICULAR TOWER. >>> IF YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO ENTERTAIN THAT, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN

RAISED? >>> WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES BUT I THINK THEY STOPPED QUESTIONS IT IS UP TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE

TO. >>> CORRECT.

I THINK WE ARE -- YOU WERE LIMITED TO 9 MINUTES FOR THE REBULL AT&T, AND SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. >>> THANK YOU.

SO, NOW, WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THIS TIME. AND WE ARE -- THIS IS THE TIME WHEN THE COMMISSION DISCUSSES AMONG ITSELF AND SO I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT SOME OF US SAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR TO US KEEP IT ORDERLY IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

SO, COMMISSIONERS? MID LIKE TO START? PREPONDERANCE MADAM MAYOR, SO WE HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM BOTH SIDE THIS EVENING, AND THIS IS CONCERNING ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEVELS. YOU KNOW MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER ASKED ABOUT NOTIFICATION OF THESE MEETINGS, AND WHEN WE LEFT THIS MEETING THE FIRST TIME AND POSTPONED THIS, WE ALL, ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS INCLUDING THE MAYOR LEFT IN GOOD FAITH THAT WE WERE TOLD BY THE APPLICANT THAT THEY WOULD DO OVER AND BEYOND TO REACH OUT, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THEY WERE PLEASE PLEAS FROM THE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO FLUSH THIS OUT, AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE EFFORTS OF WHAT I HAVE HEARD, I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THAT RESPONSE, BECAUSE THERE WAS PASSION HEAR WHERE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO IT IS DOWN AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND SOMEHOW THAT MESSAGE THAT WORD DID NOT GET COMMUNICATE AND I THE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MISS WAS AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CITY STAFF, I DO KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WE HAVE SENT OUT NOTICES WITHIN A THREE-MILE AREA SAYING THIS GOING TO TAKE PLACE, ETC.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INVOKED HERE.

THE CLIENTS SAID THEY PUT A SIGN OUT.

I SAW THE SIGN THE IT IS FACING A ROAD LESS TRAVELED.

AND THEN TO YOU KNOW GO TO A COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE WE HAVE USED IN THE PAST FOR A LOT OF O COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS OURSELVES AND DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, TO HAVE SUCH A SHOWING CONCERNS ME.

AND YET WE ARE HERE TONIGHT EVALUATING THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, I DID HEAR SOME THINGS THAT CAUSE ME OF ALARM, PARTICULARLY ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, PROPERTY VALUES ARE THINGS THAT ARE MEASURABLE, THEY ARE, IT IS PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT LOOKING AT THAT HURDLE OF COMPETENCE AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND IT CONCERNS ME, IT IS SOMETHING THAT, THEY THINK WE SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE BECAUSE, AS WE IT IS HERE, IT IS NOT A LEGISLATIVE, IT IS A USUAL PROCESS THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO US LOOK AT EVIDENCE ON BOTH SIDES HERE, TO SAY WHAT IS COMPETENT AND WHAT IS EVIDENCE THAT CAN BE ENTERED INTO.

YOU HAVE ALL MADE TESTIMONY TONIGHT INTO THE RECORD, SO THAT YOUR RECORD, YOUR COMMENTS ARE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL USUAL

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RECORD OF THIS EVENING AND WE HAVE HEARD THAT.

MADAM ATTORNEY AT SOME POINT THERE WAS AND ALLEGATION OF FCC -- AND I DIDN'T CATCH THE ACTUAL COE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID AND THAT IS THE ONE PIECE I WOULD HAVE A QUESTION ON, IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT, IF AT ALL BE THAT.

>>> YES, MAD A.M. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON --

>>> >>> FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW THERE IS A FEDERAL STATUTE WHICH SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE COMMISSION IN MAKING ITS DECISION TODAY, YOU CANNOT CONSIDER ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS AS LONG AS THE APPLICANT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH FCC REQUIREMENTS.

SO, THE OCCURS HAVE SAID THAT ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS IT COLLUDE HEALTH ISSUES, SO YOU ARE BASICALLY PRE-EMPTED FROM CONSIDERING THAT, THAT SA DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY CONGRESS, AND THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS TO ABIDE BY, AND THAT IS WHAT THE COURTS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN REVIEWING THE DECISIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THE COURTS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN SAYING THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT

CAN BE CONSIDERED. >>> UH-HMM.

AND THAT SPECIFIC CASE LAW THAT WAS REFERRED ON APPEAL, WAS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ACTIVE CASE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE

ABLE TO CITE THE NUMBER. >>> THAT CASE, I WASN'T ABLE TO PULL IT UP SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WILL NOTE THE STYLE OF THE CASE AS PRESENTED TO YOU WAS AGAINST THE FCC, WHICH WOULD BE THE FEDERAL AGENCY THAT IS TASKED WITH REVIEWING ENVIRONMENTAL

THANK YOU. >>>

>>> MA'AM ADD MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER, I AM TOO CONCERNED BECAUSE AT THE FIRST MEETING ON THE RECORD, I ASKED FOR THE MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC. AND I DO BELIEVE IF WE TWO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MINUTES OF THAT MEETING, I REACHED MYSELF OUT TO THE APPLICANT, AND SAID, IF YOU NEED IT, TO GET THE WORD OUT, CONTACT ME. ME.

NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, ME. EVERYONE ELSE CONTACTED ME WHEN THEY WANT TO FIND ME, CONTACT ME.

I HAVE CHECKED MY CELL PHONE. I HAVE CHECKED MY E-MAILS.

AND NO WITHIN DID. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO LISTEN WHEN I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION, LET AND THEN I HEAR WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, WE GOING TO DO THAT, AND IT IS NOT THIS, IT IS NOT THAT. I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT MADAM ATTORNEY JUST TALKED ABOUT.

I HAVE READ THE FEDERAL STATUTE BACKWARDS AND FARDZ, I KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO. BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN I GOT CALLED AT 5:47, YOU SAY ARE YOU COMING TO THE MEETING AND I SAID WHAT MEETING? AND I STOP WHAT I WAS DOING TO SHOW UP AT A MEETING. AND I THINK THE GENTLEMAN WAS THERE, THEY ARE THE EXPERT THERE, AND HE -- NO, YOU KNOW, NO DETERRENCE TO HIM, HE IS AND ENGINEER.

SOME OF STUFF HE WAS SAYING JUST WENT OVER EVERYONE'S HEAD.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGINEERING, BUT, THAT DISCUSSION NEEDED TO BE TO SOMEBODY LIKE MY COLLEAGUE, JEREMIAH, WHO WOULD HAVE CAME BACK. I WILL JUST BE HONEST AND CAME BACK AND SAID, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT THAT? WHAT ABOUT THAT? SO, THE MEETING DIDN'T SERVE A PURPOSE TO ME BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING AND THEY CAME THERE ANGRY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING.

IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, WE HAVE MORE THAN 11 PEOPLE IN AUDIENCE TONIGHT. WE HAVE MORE TO STAND UP THAT WANTED TO SPEAK BUT I GUESS, I'M GLAD YOU SAT DOWN BECAUSE WE WERE SAYING THE SAME THING BUT YOU HAD A RIGHT TO SPEAK.

SO, IT IS HARD TO IT IS HERE AND SAY, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND 5G, WE ALL WANT 5G. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY IS DOING. BUT, ON THE OTHER END, I'M LIKE, OKAY, ALL I HAVE HEARD ABOUT FOR THESE 11 MONTHS THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU HAVE 11 MONTHS I HAVE BEEN HERE, WAS THE REVITALIZATION OF DISTRICT 1 IN THE NORTHWEST, NORTHEAST

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SECTION. THAT IS ALL WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. TRYING TO GET RENTERS TO GO TO HOMEOWNERSHIP. NOW I'M HEARING TONIGHT THAT, WE WANT TO PUT A TOWER THERE, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STAYED AND BUILT UP, WE ARE BASICALLY ASKING THEM TO TAKE A LOSS ON THEIR PROPERTY VALUES. THIS T-MOBILE GOING TO GIVE THEM THEIR 20% BACK? SO I'M JUST TORN, BECAUSE I STAND WE NEED 5G. I UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE DONE, THE PLANS WE HAVE SAT AND DON AND WHAT OUR VISION FOR THE FUTURE.

FINN THE EMOTION I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE DRIVEN AROUND FORT PIERCE. EXCUSE ME.

AND I HAVE DRY TREN TO OTHER AREAS OF FORT PIERCE, AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CLUSTER OF TOWERS IN THE OTHER AREAS OF FORT PIERCE.

>>> >>>

>>> SO, WE NEED THE MAKE A DECISION, WE HAVE HEARD IT IS NOTHING, AND LET ME SAY THIS TO THE COMMUNITY, LET ME SAY THIS TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW EVERYONE IS MAD AT THE ATTORNEYS. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I AM AND ATTORNEY. AND AND ATTORNEYS ARE HIRED TO REPRESENT THEIR CLIENTS. ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS WHAT THEY ARING TO. SO, LEAVE ALL THE PERSONAL ATTACKS AND EVERYTHING AWAY, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY WERE HIRED TO DO. AND IF THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE HIRED TO TO, THEIR CLIENTS WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THEM.

ALL RIGHT. I HAD THE LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MEETING. AND WHY I WASN'T CALLED.

SO, THEY KNOW THIS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HEARING ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE IT WAS ME, WHO ASKED TO GO LOOK AT OTHER PROPERTIES.

THE REASON WESTWOOD GOT BROUGHT UP IS BECAUSE I ASKED YOU TO GO LOOK AT IT AND SHE MADE THE CALL, SHE ANSWERED THE QUESTION FOR ME. NOW, I NEED TO GO TALK TO THE PERSON YOU TALKED TO ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE I THINK ME AND HIM GOT A DISAGREEMENT. THAT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, BUT, AGAIN, I JUST SAY THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET TICKED OFF. AGAIN, ANYBODY SITTING UP HERE, WHATEVER, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS IT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW MY BOARERS NOW, WHAT IS OUR BORDER CURTIS GOING ACROSS DISTRICT ONE? WHATEVER YOU CALL ACROSS AND HIT

DISTRICT 2,. >>> VIRGINIA AVENUE, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, TAKE A DRIVE TONIGHT.

AND COME BACK AND E-MAIL ME, Y'ALL HAVE MY E-MAIL, TELL ME HOW MANY CELL TOWERS YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD I TRIED TO VOTE IN DURING THAT REDISTRICTING.

THAT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT BEHIND THERE, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU, THIS ONE EVEN MADE IT OUT THE PLANNING BOARD HAD THEY PROPOSED PUTTING THE TOWER THERE.

>>> SO I'M NOT HERE, AND FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE IT -- WE IN A QUASIUSUAL, AND FOR GOING FORWARD, LET IT BE KNOWN, I DON'T CARE IF MY DAD COMES TO THAT MIKE, MY MOM COMES TO THAT MIKE, OR ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT RAISE ME TO BE WHERE I AM TODAY COME TO THE MIKE. I AM GOING TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED ME IN TO THIS SEAT.

SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, MADAM MAYOR THAT IS WHERE I'M ATTORNEYR TORN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I ASKED FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE

AND IT WASN'T. >>> OKAY.

>>> WHO IS NEXT? >>>

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>>> WE HAVE AATION WHERE WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE HERE WHO OWNS PROPERTY WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY THAT THE SURROUNDING AREAS FEEL WOULD BE HARMFUL TO THEIR AREA. AND I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. IT REMINISCENT OF ANOTHER SITUATION THAT WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY WHERE YOU HAVE OUT OF TOWN PEOPLE COMING TO HERE AND BUYING HOMES AND THEN USING THEM FOR VACATION RENTALS, BUT THEY DON'T LIVE HERE.

AND SO, THAT IS -- IT IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME, BECAUSE WE WENT TO SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WE WANT TO -- WE WANT EVERYBODY TO PROPROSPER AND I SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE ME IN, AND I -- SO, WE HAVE ABSENTEE LANDLORDS ALL OVER FORT PIERCE, AND WHO ARE PROFITING FROM THINGS, BUSINESSES THAT THEY HAVE IN FORT PIERCE. AND THAT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL.

THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, EXCEPT THAT IT PUTS IN THE SITUATION OF HAVING TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHAT WE KNOW THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE VERY, VERY TROUBLED ABOUT. AND I'M VERY CONCERNED OF PROPERTY VALUES. I THINK, I READ THE BACKUP, THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE PROVABLE, SEEMS TO BE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, SEEMS -- BECAUSE IT IS PROVIDES FACTS AND FIGURES FROM REALTOR, AND THE REALTORS REPORT. BUT, I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT FEDERAL LAW PREVENTS US FROM CONSIDERING CERTAIN THINGS, AND IT PREVENTS US FROM SERVING YOU, JUST LIKE STATE LAW SOMETIMES PREVENTS US FROM CONSIDERING CERTAIN THINGS.

SO, I -- THAT IS, I THINK, THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE HERE WHAT IS HAPPENING, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AB THE STATE LEVEL. THAT I ARE SAYING WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE TIGTAL ACCESS, CELL PHONE ACCESS, WE DON'T WANT ANY AREA NOT COVER, LOTS OF MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS THAT ENABLING OF ALL OF THE BROADBAND AND THE CELL TOWERS AND THE RADIO FREQUENCIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS BEING ENCOURAGED, BOTH AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL. SO, IN A WAY, YOUR FEDERAL OFFICIALS AND YOUR STATE OFFICIALS THINK THEY ARE SERVING YOU BY OFFERING THE 5G TECHNOLOGY AND MAKING IT EASY TO DO. AND I -- THAT IS, IN FAIRNESS, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS PART OF WHAT IS BEHIND THIS. NOW, I KNOW YOU -- HONESTLY, I'M NOT -- I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY WANTS A TOW INFORM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHERE ARE THE TOWERS GOING TO GO? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TOWERS ARE IN FORCE PIERCE BUT I LOOKED AT THE MAP AND I LOOKED AT THE MAP, PULLED UP A MA MAP THE E SEE HOW MANY TOWERS ARE IN FORT PIERCE AS OF 2007, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL OPERATIONAL, BUT THERE WAS SPEEDS SAIDLY 285 OF THEM. I HAVEN'T SEEN 285 TOWERS.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, TO VET EVERYTHING YOU ANTIDEPRESSANT ON THE INTERNET IS NOT ALL TRUE.

BUT, I HAVE NO IDEA. >>> --

>>> THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. YEAH.

SO, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. MY PREFERENCE IS ALONG I-59 OR ALONG THE TURNPIKE, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE OUT IN THE COUNTRY OR WHATEVER. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.

BUT, I AM NOT IN THAT BUSINESS, YOU CAN SEE HOW LITTLE I KNOW ABOUT IT. SO, AT ANY RATE, THAT IS KIND OF THE CONFLICT THAT I'M IN RIGHT NOW.

>>> COMMISSIONER. >>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, IT IS ALWAYS TOUGH WHEN THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKES AWAY OUR ABILITY TO MAKE COMMENT COMMON SENSE DECISIONS

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FOR OUR OWN COMMUNITY. I'M SAYING THAT EVERYONE UM HERE SAYS IT IN THEIR OWN WAY. THAT HAPPENED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. TODAY WE HAVE A QUASIUSUAL ISSUE FRONT OF US, AND APPLICATION FROM THE OUTSIDE, THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE COMPLETE RUNS WE HAVE HERE AT CITY LEVEL, WE HAVE -- THIS IS NOW A CONTINUED HEARING, SO, WHAT I LOOK AT, AND OUR ATTORNEY WILL TELL US THAT IT IS ABOUT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, SO WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY TODAY, AND HOW YOU HOOK THAT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY OFFER ANY TYPE OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, EXSECOND CEMENT FOR OPINIONS AND PERCEPTIONS, I WOULD HAVE EX-PECKED SOMEBODY FROM THE REALTY COMMUNITY TO BE TABLE TO COME THERE AND TECH ABOUT ACTUAL ISSUES THAT WOULD GO AHEAD AND PROVE THAT TO ME. I'M NOT A COMMISSIONER UP HERE ON A LEGISLATION, LEGISLATION ISSUE, I'M ACTUALLY A JUDGE.

IT NOT MY JOB TO BRING THAT INFORMATION TO ME.

I HAVE AND APPLICATION IN FRONT OF ME.

IF EXPECT TO HEAR THAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE TO WHERE I CAN MAKE A COMPETENT DECISION OEN THAT. SO, AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY VALUES, I SUSPECT THAT THAT IS TRUE.

BUT I HAVE HAVEN'T HEARD EVERYTHING EVIDENCE TO BACK IT

UP. >>> I SENT IN AND E-MAIL.

>>> THIS IS NOT PART OF THIS RECORD TODAY.

YOU CAN SEND IT ALL DAY LONG, BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE RECORD. THE HEALTH ISSUES WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN THAT AWAY. ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND THE APPLICANT IS READY TO MAKE WHATEVER DRAINAGE UPGRADES AND TREE UPGRADES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING AS FAR AS THAT GOES, FORWARD.

THERE IS PETITIONS OUT THERE AND I KNOW IT, AND IT IS JUST A WAY TO EXPRESS, BUT WHEN WE ARE HERE TODAY MAKING THIS DECISION, BECAUSE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING MAYOR, DECIDES TO DENY THIS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REPORT ON RECORD WHAT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE MADE THEM VOTE THAT WAY. AND I AM GOING TO HOLD THAT TO THE RECORD SO. WE GO BACK TO THIS, AND YOU KNOW, --

>>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. PLEASE.

PLEASE. >>> I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR 9 YEARS AND YES IT IS ALMOST ORR BUT I TELL YOU

IN THAT -- >>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

PLEASE. >>> IN THOSE YEARS, I SAW COMMISSIONER SESSIONS HERE AND HE AND I STOOD UP VEHEMENTLY AGAINST HE COVERRY HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, HE AND I BOTH TOOK THE LEAD ON THAT. DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WE ENDED UP VIOLATING ADA AND THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, AND BOTH OF US GOT PERSONALLY SUED FOR $1 MILLION.

ATTEND OF THE DAY. WHEN ALL THAT HIT, WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF HASSLE, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ENDED UP PAYING, ON THAT SUIT, AND WHEN IT WAS AIL OVER WITH, THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED. AND THAT TAUGHT ME RIGHT THEN AND THERE WE HAVE TO STICK TO WHAT E MS WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I ULTRASOUND WOULD LOVE TO SAY IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. IT ISN'T SOMETHING I WANT IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT ACROSS MY STREET. I DON'T WANT IT NEAR WHERE KIDS ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PLAYGROUNDS AND SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME, IN THAT ISSUE.

SO I'M UM HERE RIGHT NOW, TRYING O GRASP ON THAT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, TO WHERE I CAN SAY SIGN ARE I, APPLICANT, YOU FAILED. IT IS GOING TO BE AGAINST THE HEALTH, WELFARE, AND THE WELL BEING OF MY COMMUNITY BE ON YOUR WAY WE ARE DONE WITH YOU, BUT I DID NOT HEAR THAT TODAY.

AND I CANNOT SAY THAT I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS APPLICATION WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS, AS PRESENTED, BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO, YOU HAVE HEARD FROM ME NOW, AND I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY TO BE ABLE TO JUST SAY I JUST DON'T LIKE IT, IT IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT, THERE IS TOO MANY CELL TOWERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, OR WHATEVER. THOSE -- THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE.

SO, UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT I CAN STICK TO, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT GETTING MY VOTE.

>>> ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR?

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE. >>> SO, A FEW COMMENTS I HAVE GOT, I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TAKE IN MANY WAYS PROBABLY.

AS I ALWAYS DO. SO, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, THIS ISSUE IS, AND THIS APPLICATION, IT NOT AND ISSUE IT IS AND

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APPLICATION AND IT BECOMES AND ISSUE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT REAL LIFE SCENARIOS, MANY OF US AND I WILL TALK ACON BOTH SIDE FOR AND AGAINST WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND KNOW AND FACT SHEETS PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, WE CARRY THE GUYS AROUND.

WE ALL WANT ABSCESS IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER THAT, IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN. MY KIDS, ARE ON ME ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHAT IFS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THEY GRADUATED IN LINCOLN PARK AND ARE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY, OFF TO COLLEGE AND WANT TO COME BACK HERE, JUST AS DRIVER SIDE AND MOM HAVE DONE, THEY ARE LIKE WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? SO, THIS IS PART OF THAT.

THIS IS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, OVERALL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION OVERALL FOR WHAT IS TO BE IN THAT YOUNGER GENERATION, TAKING THE REIGNS, AND MOVING INTO COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AS MOST OF US ARE IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT. AND I APPLAUSE THAT FOR ALL OF OUR YOUTH AND LOOKING AT THAT. SO, THERE IS THAT ASPECT OF THE COMMUNECATION CONVERSATION. THESE LITTLE DEVICES.

I TELL THEM BOTH ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE THE SMARTEST DEVICE KNOWN NO MAN YOU CAN PUT THE YOUR POCKET RIGHT HERE.

AND SO THE CHALLENGE IS, AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BROUGHT UP OVER THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS INCLUDING THE PRIVATE MEETINGS AND THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THE TASK OF THAT, JUST THAT BASIC SCENARIO OF ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF DATA? AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THERE ARE MANY AGENCY, THERE ARE MANY PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT GO OUT AND INVEST IN DATA, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED FUNDS LIKE, IT HAS BEEN SAID, TO INVEST IN DATA, AND ACCESS, INFORMATION ACCESS. WE DO IT AS A CITY, PROVIDE ACCESS, PROVIDING THIS MEETING YOU KNOW VIA TELEVISION.

AND RECORDING. SO, THAT IS ALL BEING SAID I DIAL IT BACK AND LOOK AT OUR ZONING, I LOOK AT -- THE PROPERTY OF FORT PIERCE AND I LOOK AT THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND HOW THEY BEING TRANSFERRED FROM COUNTY TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WHETHER IT THIS APPLICATION OR ANOTHER, WHAT ARE THE ZONES OF TRANSITION, IN A BUTT UPSTATE WHERE WE HAVE PERSONALIZED SERVICE, SERVING US AS RESIDENTS NEXT TO WHERE WE LIVE, OR WHERE WE WORK, HOW DO WE GET TO A GROCERY STORE, WHAT ARE THE MEANS OF CONNECTIVITY, HAVE A I YEAH PEDESTRIAN OR, DATA IS PART OF THAT ALONG THE THOROUGH FAIRS, SO, I GO BACK AND I LOOK AT THE ENTIRE APPLICATION, AS A WHOLE.

I ASK ABOUT DRAINAGE, LANDSCAPING, IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT, NOT THE HEALTH ENVIRONMENT, THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE ARE REGULATED AND WE ARE LIMITED IN THAT CONVERSATION, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GO THERE.

WHEN I SAY ENVIRONMENT IT HAS NOTHING DO THAT, I WANT THAT ON THE RECORD. AS FAR AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND CONGRESS AND THAT RULING, IT IS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT SPECIFICALLY TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, IT IS REGARDING TREES, CANOPY, LANDSCAPING, DOCTRINE KNOWLEDGE IMPACTS, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.

AND WAYS OF SECURING AND AD ADAPTING DESIGN PARAMETERS THAT WILL POSITIVELY INFLUENCE THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY.

SO, I LOOK AT THE FACT SHEET FROM THE APPLICATION AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION, I HAVE LOOKED AT THE TESTIMONY THAT HAS BEENGIN TONIGHT, FROM THE WONDERFUL FOLKS THAT CAME HERE TO TALK WITH US AND SHARE WITH US.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I DID NOT GET ANSWERED IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HEARD, AND I THINK THAT IT IS PRUDENT OF EVERY APPLICATION THAT COPS TO US, IS TO TELL US THE BENEFITS OF THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT US BEING ON THE DEFENSIVE WHERE WE HAVE TO SAY, WE HAVE TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE OF HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE, WHAT IS THE IMPROVEMENT AND THE APPLICATION GOING TO DO, WELL LOOK AT THE AESTHETIC VALUE, WHAT KIND OF INVEST PES ARE BEING MADE, SO, I'M LOOKING AT BULLET POINTS HERE PROPOSED TOW ALREADY OCK POI 5.49% OF THE SITE, 60 D 60 BY 60 LEASE AREA, I THIS ID THE OTHER COMPLAITION BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME, THE 60 BY 60, OUT OF THEY ALL 1.05-ACRES, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 8% OF

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THE PROPERTY BEING USED FOR THIS LEASE SITE.

SO I'M GOING THROUGH ALL THE LONG CONVERSATIONS, TO TALK ABOUT SMALL LEASED AREA OF 1.05-ACRE PARCEL AND THINKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OVERALL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT% THAT. IT IS PROPOSED TO ME AND IN A CONVERSATION, THAT IT IS ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED FOR THIRD AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, SO YOU KNOW WE START THINKING A YOU BOUT ALL THE INS AND OUTS AND LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING, AND WE ARE PROPOSING A SITE THAT IS WITHIN THE MOST DENSE EXISTING NATIVE VEGETARIAN ON THE PARCEL THAT, IS A PROBLEM FOR ME, I SAID IT FROM DAY ONE IT A CHALLENGE, YES, WE ARE MITIGATING SOME OF THAT, AND IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T ALWAYS ECK IF CHOO WAIT A POSITIVE CHANGE FOR WHAT NATURE HAS ALREADY PROVIDED ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. THAT IS WHY THIS ARE SO MANY ENVIRONMENTAL LANDSCAPING REGULATIONS IN OUR CODE, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? THE PROPOSED TOW ALREADY NOT EMIT SMOKE, GUST, OR AIR CONTAMINANTS NOISE, ODOR AND VIBRATIONS WE HEARD TESTIMONY IT WILL, BUT IT WILL BE FOR A LIMITED TIME O SO THAT BULLET POINT DIDN'T SAY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS IT SAID WILL NOT EMIT, WELL, THAT IS BY SAYING WILL NOT, IN CAPITAL LETTERS AND O. T., IN THE APPLICATION, THAT IS NOT TRUE THAT BULLET POINT. WE HEARD TESTIMONY THERE WILL BE A YOU KNOWRYTOR ON SITE, IT WILL RUN, IT WILL BE TESTED, ON A CERTAIN REPEATING PROGRAM, SO IT NEED, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING REWRITE THE SENTENCE, BUT, THERE WILL EMIT, THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. NOT AND ABSOLUTE NOT.

THE PROPOSED TOWER WILL BE DESIGNED TO SUPPORT AT LEAST THESE CARRIER THAT, IS FINE. T-MOBILE WILL BE ROLLING OUT AND ADDITIONAL 5G SERVICE,LY GO BACK TO WHERE I STARTED, DATA SEARCHING FOR DATA LOOKING FOR HIGHER SPEED I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS TO COME, THE PROPOSED TOWER MEETS ALL THE SAFETY REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, PROPOSED TOWER WILL BE DESIGNED TO WITH STAND WIND SPEED OF 158, BASIC WIND SPEED, I DID NOT HEAR TESTIMONY TONIGHT THAT BASIC WIND SPEED IS THE BEST KNOWN CONDITION, IT IS NOT THE BEST AND ABSOLUTE SCENARIO, WE HAVE HAD IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMEONE CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT THAT TONIGHT, A HURRICANE, THAT IMPACTED THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THAT IS A REAL THING, THAT SA REAL EVENT IN MOTHER NATURE, IT IS A REAL EVENT AS THE ENGINEERING BASIS, WHERE YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE THESE MAXIMUM CONDITIONS, BUT THE BULLET POINT SAID THE BASIC WIND SPEED OF 158, WE KNOW THAT THAT EVENT AND THAT NATURAL DISASTER WILL EXCEED THAT. I THINK THAT IS IN PROBABLY MANY TESTIMONY, WELL, ONE TESTIMONY SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT, BUT THE BASIC WIND SPEED, I'M CHALLENGED BY THAT.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS TACK ABOUT THE TOWER DESIGN IN GENERAL, STAFF TALK ABOUT SOME KIND OF OBSCURING FAX OR OF A TOWER, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU OBSCURE A TOWER OF 160 FEET.

WE HAVE TRIED TO COME UP WITH CREATEI WAY, AS HUMAN BEINGS, RIGHT? WE HAVE OTHER TOWERS IN THE CITY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY, THEY HAVE BECOME TREE, THEY HAVE BECOME FLAG POLE, THEY HAVE BECOME WHITE COVERED POLES.

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS TO NIGHT OF THE ENGINEER, THE GALVANIZED STRUCTURE WITH THE TRIANGULAR, YOU KNOW, ORIENTATION OF THE ANTENNAS ON TOP, I'M CHALLENGED BY THAT.

I'M CHALLENGED BY THOSE, THOSE PARAMETERS.

I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY EVALUATE THAT AESTHETIC PROPOSAL AND AS IT RELATES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, NOT THE HEALTH ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS OF HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, AND THERE IS ALSO BEEN BROUGHT UP, AND I DID HEAR SOMEONE TALK ABOUT TODAY, REAL ESTATE, THE VALUES AND I WAS NOT CONVINCED BY THE APPLICANT THAT IT WAS GOING TO ENHANCE THE VALUE OF REAL ESTATE IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT AT ALL, ACTUALLY.

SO, WHILE COMMISSIONER I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE ONE OF THE

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FACT OF THE INFORMATION THAT SAID IT IS GOING TO TWO DOWN, I'M LOOK FOR THE INFORMATION THAT SAID I AM COMEG INTO THIS COMMUNITY, AND INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE BE JOES AND GOING TO ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THAT WHAT I'M SEARCHING FOR, AS COMMISSIONER IN THIS SEAT.

>>> >>> SO THERE ARE MANY UNNOPE FACTORS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT, THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT HAVE MET WITH ME AND TALKED TO ME AND PROVIDED INFORMATION TO ME, AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO TRIP YOU UP ON OTHER QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT THE SCREEN RAYTOR, IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT HIT MY MIND BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FACTOR. AND SO, THANK YOU FOR WORKING HARD AND WHAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED, THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FOR REEVING OUT AND LETTING US KNOW YOUR POSITION BECAUSE IT VERY IMPORTANT. I'M CHALLENGED BY THE APPLICATION. I SAID MANY, MANY THINGS.

I WENT FULL CIRCLE INTO THE POSITIVES AND INTO THE THINS THAT I'M SEARCHING FOR AND TO THE NEGATIVE, AND BASED ON WHAT I HEAR, WHAT THOSE COMMENTS, I CAN'T APPROVE, I CAN NOT APPROVE IF WE WERE TO VOTE RIGHT THIS SECOND AT THIS POINT.

>>> SO, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS SOMEONE PREPARED

TO MAKE A MOTION? >>> MADE AM MAYOR CAN I JUST THROW ONE THING IN THERE? I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT OUR CODE CONTAINS STANDARDS FOR REVIEW, AND COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON TOUCHED O AN LOT OF THE STANDARDS LOOSELY SPEAKING BUT I WANT TO REITERATE THOSE FOR EITHER PURPOSE OF FURTHER DISCUSSION OR FOR PURPOSE OF WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE MAKING A MOTION, IF IT FOLLOWS.

OKAY. AND THAT, BASICALLY, THE INTRODUCTORY SECTION SAYS THE CITY SHALL CONSIDER AND WEIGH THE AESTHETIC IMPACT AND COMPATIBILITY ISSUES OF THE PROPOSED ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE WITH THE PUBLIC BENEFIT DERIVED FROM HAVING AND EFFICIENT AND WIRELESS RELIABLE SYSTEM WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE AND PLAYERS CONSIDERATION SHALL BE BASED ON THE FOLLOWING VAC FACTORS.

HEIGHT, OTHER PROPOSED ANTENNA, PROXIMITY OF THE ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE, TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, NATURE OF USES ON ADJACENT AND NEARBY PROPERTIES, SURROUNDING TOPOGRAPHY, SURROUNDING TREE COVERAGE, DESIGN OF THE ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE, WITH PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO DESIGN CONFLICT OF INTEREST ICES WHICH HAVE THE EFFECT OF REDUCING OR ELIMINATING VISUAL OBSERVE TRUESIVENESS, PROGRESSED INPRESS AND EGRET ASK AND ANTENNA SUM STRUCTURE, SO,. I JUST -- YEAH.

I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE THOSE FACTORS IN OUR CODE, AND I AM -- I HAVE HEARD THEM DISCUS KIND OF BROADLY AND IN GENERAL TERMS, BUT, I WENT YOU ALL TO NOT TO NEGLECT TO CONSIDER ANY OF THE FACTORS. WELL, I HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME AND SO I HAVE STARTED A COUPLE OF THEM, PROXIMITY OF THE ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

THAT IS NO. 2. NO. 6, DESIGN OF THE ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE WITH PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS WHICH HAVE THE EFFECT OF REDUCING OR ELIMINATING VISUAL OBSERVE TRUESIVENESS TO THE EXTENT REASONABLY POSSIBLE. AND OF COURSE MANY OF THE OTHER

ONES AT THE HEIGHT AND ETC. >>> MAYOR, THAT IS SECTION 125,

360 OR 361. >>> IT IS 125361, SO SUB E.

>>> 361 AND THEN IT, WE HAVE TO GO DOWN A COUPLE OF PAGES TO GET TO IT. ENTITLED STANDARDS FOR REVIEW.

UNDER D. SAY NO I'M USING CELLULAR SERVICE TO USE THIS STUFF UP. IT IS A TOUGH CONVERSATION.

THIS REAL. BECAUSE WE RELY ON IT, AS A SH AS A NATION.

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>>> >>> DID YOU ASK FOR A MOTION.

>>> YES. >>> UNM THERE IS MORE DISCUSSION? THIS MISS EARLY POINTED OUT THAT

WE NEED TO KIND OF REVIEW THAT. >>> OKAY. I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU.

>>> THANK YOU. I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WE DENY THE APPLICATION TONIGHT BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING FACTORS.

THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED AND TEN KNAPP SUPPORT STRUCTURE CANNOT BE HIDDEN OR OBSCURED AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND THE DISCUSSION PROPOSED TO NIGHT.

THAT THE PROXIMITY OF THE ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE IN RELATION TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, THEREFORE, A PROBLEM WITHIN OUR CODE, THAT THE, THERE A CONFLICT WITH THIS APPLICATION REGARDING THE NATURE OF THE USES ON ADJACENT AND NEARBY PROPERTIES.

THAT THERE A CONFLICT WITH THE APPLICATION REGARDING THE SURROUNDING TOPOGRAPHY, TREE COVERAGE, AND FOIL YAJ, AT THIS

LOCATION. >>> CAN YOU THE MORE SPECIFIC? BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THIS IN WRITING IF THE MOTION PASSES WITH REGARD TO THE TOPOGRAPHY AND TREE COVERAGE.

>>> OKAY, IN CONFLICT WITH SURROUNDING TOPOGRAPHY IN REGARDS TO THE LOCATION THAT IS PROPOD AND IN CONFLICT WITH SURROUNDING TREE COVERAGE AND FOIL YAJ BECAUSE EXISTING VEGETATION IS BEING REMOVED TO CONSTRUCT THIS DEVICE.

PERIOD. >>> END OF THE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >>> SECOND.

>>>ER THER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER?

>>> AND I UNDERSTAND, I'M ALONE PERSON OUT HERE THE ON THING I'M TRYING TO DO MY JOB, SO, THE APPLICANT IS OFFERED A CURE FOR VEGETATION OR AT LEAST A RECOMMENDATION, THE TRAIN KNOWLEDGE PART, THERE IS ALSO A CURE ON THE TABLE, STAFF HAS WORKED THROUGH ALL THE ISSUES AS FAR AS THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, I STILL -- I DIDN'T KNOW, MAYBE IT IS,

IT IS JUST NOT FLOWING TO ME. >>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE. CAN WE HAVE SOME ORDER.

I CAN'T CONTINUE A THOUGHT IF I HAVE THIS CHATTER IN THE

BACKGROUND. >>> I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

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>>> THANK YOU. SO YOU KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH THIS. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT MOTION.

I DON'T THINK IT ACTUALLY, AND APPROPRIATELY, COVERS THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES THAT, AND THIS MY OWN OPINION, SO I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE STRONG POINTS MADE BY THIS COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON ON THERE.

BUT, AGAIN, IT IS, I BELIEVE IT IS SUPPOSITION AND PERCEPTIONAL MOSTLY IN MY MIND AND I WISH THAT WE HAD, PERHAPS AND INTERVENER FROM THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE, LIKE WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE IT WAS AND OREGON NEEDED THOUGHT OF EVIDENCE BEING PROPOSED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE PITFALLS OF THIS APPLICATION AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THOSE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE AND INTERVENER. SO, I THINK, I THINK FOR AS FAR AS THE FACT OF BEING ABLE TO OFFER COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO BE ABLE TO DENY THIS, I CAN'T GET THERE.

>>> AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT EACH OF US GETS TO ESTABLISH WHAT WE THINK IS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

AND SO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE.

>>> CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON HERE? IS IT IN FAVE OF THE MOTION, RERESTATE, THESE?

DENY? >>> PLEASE?

>>> IT IS A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION.

>>> ALL RIGHT. BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED ANTENNA CANNOT BE ON SECURED AS PER ONE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT WITH THE EXISTING, EVEN WITH THE EXISTING VEGETATION AND THE PROPOISED FENCE, ADDITIONALLY, THE PROXIMITY OF THE ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE IN RELATION TO SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES IS IMMEDIATE, AND SO THAT IS, IN MY OPINION OR NOT MY OPINION, BUT FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT I HAVE HEARD TODAY, AND ISSUE, BASED UPON THE PROXIMITY, WHICH IS ITEM NO. 2 WITHIN OUR CODE, AND THE NATURE OF THE USES ON ADJACENT AND NEARBY PROPERTY IS ALSO IN CONFLICT BASED UPON THE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE ZONING MAPS THAT ARE PROPOSED, THE SURROUNDING TOPOGRAPHY IS ALSO CONFLICT MANUFACTURE SOME OF THE TESTIMONY I HEARD BECAUSE THE ADJACENT ROADWAY CONNECTIONS AND/OR THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT COULD BE CREATED THERE, COULD BECOME AND ISSUE, THE CONFLICT OF SURROUNDING TREE COVERAGE AND FOIL YAJ, ALSO BEING THERE, BECAUSE THE SITE THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED IS THE MOST DENSE COVERAGE OF EXISTING VEGETATION,

AND, YEAH, THAT IS AND ISSUE. >>> THANK YOU.

OKAY. ARE WE WE DI TO VOTE.

>>> THERE WAS A MOTION ON TABLE WAS IT SECONDED.

>>> YES. >>> I A APOLOGIZE.

>>> HE ASKED ME TO REITERATE >>> SO PLEASE RESTATE.

>>> YOU KEEP I STRAIGHT. MOTION TO DENY.

DENY, YES. THE FOLLOWING REASONS GIVEN.

SO COMMISSIONER GAYNES? >>> YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER C.

JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER PE RONA, NO, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER HUDSON, YES, MA'AM.

>>> >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL WILL HAVE TO MOVE TON THE NEXT ITEM SO IF YOU WILL STAY, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BE QUIET AND IF YOU NOT GOING TO STAY, TALK OUT IN THE FOYER, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN CAN YOU TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE, PLEASE, THANK YOU.

>>> YOU READY TO PROCEED MANY. >>> YES.

I THINK WE CAN GO. NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 20-033,

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 22-033 changing Short Term and Vacation Rental renewal dates from September 30 to anniversary billing. SECOND READING]

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO THE CITY OF THE FORT PIERCE FLORIDA MEARNDED THE CHORD OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF THE FORT PIERCE FLORIDA, CHAPTER 22 ARTICLE 10, SHORT TERM AND VACATION RENTALULATIONS REMOVING SECTION 22-507, EXISTING LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES AMENDING SECTION 22-516,

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DURATION OF RENTAL UNIT REGISTRATION PROVIDING FOR SEVERALLABLE CAUSE, REPEALING ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONNECT AND PROVIDING FOR AND EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE

SECOND READING. >>> THIS IS SECOND READING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT PLEASE COME FORWARD? SEEING NO ONELY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>>> MAYOR MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>>> SECOND. >>> MOTION AND SECOND, CALL THE

ROLL, PLEASE. >>> COMMISSIONER GAYNES?

>>> YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER PE RONA,

[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 22-034 creating an Affordable Housing Advisory Committee due to the larger allocation for the S.H.I.P. programs. SECOND READING]

GENTLEMEN, MAYOR HUDSON, YES, MA'AM.

>>> AND WE HAVE ORDINANCE 22-034, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AND CHAPTER 103 ARTICLE 10, CREATING SECTION 103-373 TO ESTABLISH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERALLABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE OR PARTS IN CONFLICT HERE AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS SECOND

READING. >>> THIS IS SECOND READING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD? SEE NOTHING ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>>> MADAM MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NO. 22-034.

>>> SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND,

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >>> COMMISSIONER GAYNES, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, MAYOR, MAYOR HUDSON, YES, MA'AM, NEXT

[e. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 22-035 - Impact Fee Moratorium within Urban Infill and Redevelopment Area. SECOND READING.]

92-035, ORDINANCE AMENDING TO CHORD OF ORDINANCE CITY OF THE FORD FIERCE PROVIDE FOR MORE TUNNEL YOU CITY IMPACT FEES FOR APPEARED YOU OF ONE YEAR WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY DESIGNATE AND REFILL AND URBAN WE DEVELOPMENT AREA REQUIRED BY SECTION 113-8, 113-15 THRU AND INCLUDING 113-19 OF THE CITY CODE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR A SEVERALLABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AND EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE SECOND READINGF THIS IS THE SECOND READING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD? SEE NOTHING ONE, I WILL CLOSE

THE PUBLIC HEARING. >>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

>>> SECOND. THE MOTION AND SECOND, CALL THE

ROLL, PLEASE. >>> COMMISSIONER GAYNES, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON SO, YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER PE RONA, YES,

MA'AM, MAYOR HUDSON, YES, MA'AM. >>> AND AS WE INDICATED EARLIER, ORDINANCE 22-036, WILL BE POSTPONED TO DECEMBER 5TH.

[a. Resolution No. 22-R42 appointing Victoria Bush to the Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board and Mayor Hudson's representative. ]

SO, NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 22-R. 42 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY AND FORT METEOROLOGIST CERTIFYING AMENDMENT OF THE SUN RISE THEATER ADD RYE BOARD APPOINTING VICTORIA BUSH TO THE SUNRISE THEATERRED SUNRISERY BOARD AS MAYOR HUDSON'S

REPRESENTATIVE. >>> WILL SOMEONE MAKE IT FOR

ME. >>> A MOTION AND SECOND.

>>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >>> COMMISSIONERGATION, YES, C.

JOHNSONG, YES, MA'AM, JAY JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM, PE RONA, YES, MA'AM, MAYOR HUDSON, YES, MA'AM.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>>> AND NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>>> WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANY -- ANY OF THE OF THE PUBLIC --

>>> >>> SECOND WARNING? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, MY NAME IS ALEX SLONSKY, I LIVE IN NORTH PALM BEACH AND ALSO AND OHM OWNER OF PIECE OF LAND, PROPERTY IN FORT PIERCE. I RECENTLY HAD A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING AND AS LONG AS I'M, MY PRIMARY LANGUAGE IS UKRAINE, ENGLISH IS MY SECOND LANGUAGE I WOULD RATHER JUST READ SO THAT I DON'T CROSS ANY WORDS, OKAY? OKAY. THIS IS MY E-MAIL TO THE FREE MAN, THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

COMMISSIONER KEVIN I SEND THIS E-MAIL TO -- BUT DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, EARLIER THIS YEAR I BROUGHT -- I BUILT A CHAIN LINK FENCE ON MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS G. O. 315TH COURT FIRST AND APPLIED FOR FENCE PERMIT BEFORE NEXT INSPECTION, HOWEVER, THE -- GROUNDED FALSE --

>>> CODE OF ORDINANCE ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY SECTION 125, 322, FENCES, WALLS AND HEDGES INSULATION REPLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT VACANT PROPERTY THERE.

NOT EVEN A WORD VACANT SO IT NOT IN THE CODE.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MAY THE IN COMPLIANCE WITH A -- REMOVAL

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>>> WHEN I BOUGHT THIS PLACE, IT WAS A DUMP, I AM 65 YEARS OLD NOT IN GOOD HEALTH AND HAVE TO SPENT MY TIME FROM THIS TRASH LEFT BY LOW LIFE ON MY PROPERTY, -- FIND A DEAD BODY UNDER A TREE THAT OVERDOSE.

>>> >>>

>>> SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP, IF YOU WOULDGY YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO THAT GENTLEMAN RIGHT OVER THERE, THE POLICEMAN? YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, WE WILL -- I WILL ASK THAT THE STAFF TO HAVE SOMEONE CALL YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>>> OKAY. >>> OKAY?