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PUBLIC. >> WE HAVE A FULL CHAMBER. WELCOME EVERYBODY.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU. >> WE CAN HEAR YOU ARE HERE. >> IS THAT BETTER.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO USUALLY KEEP THIS PART OF THE MEETING FOR 30 MINUTES. INSTEAD OF THREE MINUTES OF GETTING KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO TWO MINUTES. MAKE SURE YOU SAVE YOUR MOST IMPORTANT THING FIRST.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP. I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

WELCOME TO FORT PIERCE INTO THE CHAMBER. I LIKE TO CALL ON COMMISSIONER KATHY FIRST. INTRODUCES THINGS LIKE THAT. CHARGING.

>> MIX COX YOU PLEASE GIVE A THREE SECOND MORNING. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M BASICALLY SURETO HAVE SOME CLARITY WITH SOME THINGS. I'M GLAD IT WAS PULLED SO THAT THERE CAN BE MORE ORE EDUCATION.AS THE COUNTY THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH PROPERTY CHANGES HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE A JOINT MEETING TO DISCUSS THE LOCAL WE HAVE DETERMINED.

HE WILL MAKE CAUGHT UP ON DONE WITH THE EXCHANGE AND PRACTICE. OUR LOCATIONS GO TO HARBOR POINT FOR THE. IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE BUSINESS IS SOME CLARITY TO THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE IN A MEETING IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU AND THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE A MEETING

WILL BE PRESENT AT THAT MEETING AS WELL. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> RAIN AND SELF. >> WITH THE WAS BORN HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

I'M A FIFTH-GENERATION FISHERMAN AND COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE GUI CLOSURE. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRESS IS GOING ON. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER NOT CLOSING UP PLEASE BECAUSE WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM THAT ARE CLOSE. COMMUNITY CENTER IS CLOSED.

I HAVE GRANDSONS AND GRANDDAUGHTERS THAT ARE COMING UP THAT ARE FISHERMAN.

IT'S A BLESSING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE CONSIDERED PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> MARK WALTERS. >> MARK WALTERS BY RESIDE AT 30 HZ DRIVE. HERE AT 301. I'M MOST CONCERNED THAT THIS IS THE LAST. WE START VISIONING SESSIONS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

NOW IT'S RFP AND SOME OF THEM OUTSIDE THAT SHOWS US HOW TO BEST TO WHAT'S GOOD AND WHAT'S NOT GOOD FOR US AND THAT CONCERNS ME. THE PROCESS IS WITH PEOPLE CAN STOP IT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE FOOT IT WAS CREATED FOR ITS GROWTH MANAGEMENT SO WE CAN MANAGE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE OTHER THING IS WHAT WE CONSIDERS BEING SHOVED DOWN HER THROAT IT'S A CONSCIONABLE ISSUE. E'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSING A BOAT RAMP ON THE MAINLAND. IF I WENT CAN STOP US FROM GOING THROUGH THE ISLAND ON THE

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BRIDGE AND WE HAVE NOBLE ACCESS THAT. IT'S A CONSCIONABLE.

THE OTHER THING IS IF IT'S GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN HER THROAT REPLACEABLE FOR YOU GET SOMETHING ELSE. REPLACE IT WITH MORE AND BETTER PROJECTED FOR THE FUTURE.

IF YOU THINK THAT IS BETTER FOR US THEN GIVE US BOAT RAMP TIMES 10.

WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE TOURISM TO COME AND WE WELCOME THEM.

IF YOU LIVE HERE YOU WELCOMED TOURISTS. IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESERVED WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

>> I THINK THIS IS RICHARD HUNT. >> HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING.

MY NAME IS RICHARD HUNT AND I MADE FORT PIERCE NATIVE. THIRD-GENERATION FISHERMAN AND CONTRACTOR OF THE SOUND. THE THINGS THAT WE SAW LAST MONTH WITH EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. MISTER CHRIS SHYLY REACHED OUT TO ME SINCE THIS MEETING AND HE BASICALLY TOLD ME THAT HE WAS IN SHOCK THAT THEY HAD SIGNED DOCUMENTS. SO IT IS THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL.

WITH THAT BEING SAID I THINK IS TELLING THE STORY AND WHO'S TELLING THE TRUTH.

IN THIS TOWN WE ARE A SMALL TOWN THAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS TOWN YOU GUYS ARE PROVEN. IF YOU PROVE THE CLOSURE OF THE PROGRAM.

BOTH OF THOSE THERE TO BOTH PLANTS INVOLVED THAT WILL OVERLOOK THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME THAT THINKING ABOUT. EFFICIENTLY..

THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT SUCCESSFUL LEADER OF THE PRESIDENT IS A NECESSITY GUYS ARE VOTED TO DO THE BEST INTEREST IN TOWN. THAT'S WHAT I BY DOING THAT MISTER SHELLEY TOLD ME THAT IF YOU PROVIDED THE LAND HE WOULD GO PROGRAMS.

>> GREGORY SIMMONS. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GREG SIMMONS AND I SPOKE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE ABOUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THE VOTING COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

COULD DO BETTER THAN WHAT THESE DELIVERED PIZZA. ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WILL DO IT WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY COMING TOGETHER. GO TO CANAVERAL FOR THE ROMANCE.

IT'S A BIG ONE. IT'LL TAKE PIXELS TO 37 FOOTER. COMMERCIAL GUYS USE IT IF THIS IS GO UP THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE. IT'S A WIN-WIN WHEN YOU OPEN THE RAMP AND HE HAD TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE CLOSURE IS DOWN AND WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER GET IT BACK. I THINK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN AND COMMISSION GAINS FOR POSTPONING THAT LAST MEETING. AND FOR GETTING A SECOND HEARING IN FRONT OF YOU.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO FORWARD IN THE SOME OF THAT WORKFORCE?

FORCES SYSTEM TO POSTPONE IT. >> THIS IS MY DOG WILL TRY TO ANSWER QUESTION BEFORE THE END

OF THE EVENING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> BRIAN LAST NAME STARTS WITH THE SEA. >> BRIAN COMES OUT OF THE 20 THROUGH THREE BOULEVARD. A COUPLE NEW REFERENCES FIVE TIMES IS GOING ON SINCE 2017.

THIS OVERAGE DEVELOPMENT ISSUE. HE WAS SURPRISED BUT I'M JUST HEARING ABOUT IT ONE OF THE 30

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IS THE B SETTINGS IS STRENGTH BETWEEN BOTH HAVE ACCESS INCLUDING THE THAT WAS FROM THE COUNTY. THE FOUR PIECE THE CITY COMMISSION RESPONDED FOCUSED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING STRENGTH AND ITS RECREATIONAL FISHING ADDRESSES OR USES OF THE KEEPING WITH THE POLICY DIRECTOR OF THE MISSION TO COME NEXT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ASCENDING THE AMOUNT OF BOAT TRAILER PARK SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE OUTLINE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FINAL. FOLLOW. NOTHING SHOULD BE DONE UNTIL YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE. IF YOU CLOSE THESE BOTH HANDS AND THE PROMISE THEY WILL WE KNOW THAT GOES. THEY WILL BUILD THIS WHOLE THING AND MAYBE TWO YEARS BEFORE WE GET OLDER. WEDNESDAY IS THAT YOU GET THAT COMMITMENT FIRST.

ASK WHERE AND WHEN THEY WILL BUILD THOSE WERE BOAT RAMPS BEFORE THEY START THE STUFF GOING ON. OTHERWISE WE WILL NEVER GET THEM.

THANK YOU SIR. >> JARED WELLS. >> GOOD EVENING JARED WELLS THIRD-GENERATION FORT PIERCE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

I'M HERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THE PROJECT. I'M A FISHERMAN.

I HAVE MY OWN FISHING CHARTER. IF ANYONE STARTED TO USE THOSE BOAT RAMPS MORE THAN ME I'LL GIVE YOU HUNDRED DOLLARS. WE HAVE BOATS IN THEIR THREE OR FOUR TIMES A DAY.

WE'RE SUPER STOKED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE FISHMAN WHARF PROJECT.

IT FEELS AT THE END OF THE WORLD BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I JUST RECENTLY SHUT DOWN FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THE CITY DIDN'T CATCH ON FIRE. IT WAS GOOD AND PEOPLE DIDN'T GO BANKRUPT OR OUT OF BUSINESS. WE MADE ALTERNATIVES TO HAVE IT.

IF ANYTHING WE LEARNED IN CURLERS SET UP IT WITH STUFF LIKE THIS.

WHAT MADE ME UNCOMFORTABLE BUT THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT EVERYONE WAS INFORMED WITH WHAT'S COMING AND IT'S BIGGER AND BETTER. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.'M JUST EXCITED WITH THE WHOLE MARINA PROJECT WITH THE RESTAURANTS IS GOING TO BRING FAMILIES AND BOATING FAMILIES. A LOT OF FORT PIERCE IS MADE UP OF MORE THAN JUST FISHERMAN.

THEIR FAMILIES THAT WANT TO TAKE THEIR BOAT OFF THE SANDBAR.

IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE TO TAKE MY FAMILY TO SOME BRAND-NEW RESTAURANTS THERE AND I LOVE IT BUT SOMETIMES I CAN'T WAIT AN HOUR AND-A-HALF OF MY FAMILY. WITH THE NEW PARKING THAT'S VERY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE INCREDIBLE. JUST WANT TO SAY I'M FOR IT.

I LOVE IT AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT IT. >> MIKE JACKMAN IS NEXT FOLLOWED BY RICK NOTING AND EMBRACE GARDY. UNDERSTANDING OF YOU HEAD'S UP

HIS NEXT. >> FLEX WE'VE AGREED AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON BUT ONE KEY THING THAT'S MISSING IS PARKING.HERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKING THERE.

IF YOU IDENTIFIED AND I GUESS WHAT IS NOT A LOT OF PARKING. THE OF THE COUNTIES HERE AND THEY HAVE THE PROPERTY. I THINK SOMETHING CAN OFTEN BUT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS ALONG OR

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THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ARTISTRY IN THE OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT. AGAIN THANK YOU BUT LET'S MOVE

THE SING-ALONG I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> OWEN MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> RICK MARTIN AND EMBRACE. >> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MY NAME IS RICK NOTING. I'M A FIFTH GENERATION.

MY FAMILY THE CARLTON CAME HERE IN 1874 AND HE KNEW THAT DOCUMENT FOR MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER THE FIRST BUILDING WE KNEW IT PROBABLY SAYS.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN BENEFIT FOR TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SPEAKING. NOTHING THE BENEFIT OTHER THAN THE FUTURE THIS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 1956 GET TO THIS PROPERTY EXPLICITLY HAD THREE DEEP RESTRICTIONS THAT SAYS THAT THE LAND SHALL NEVER BE SOLD OR THAT YOU SEND A NOTICE WHEN THE PUBLIC EVER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT GOVERNMENTS CHANGE LAWS AND THIS ONE HAS BEEN CHANGED TO ALSO.

THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD THE BEAUTY AND CONVENIENCE OF HAVING THAT BOAT THERE. SO THERE.

THIS IS A LIST OF THE VOTERS IN THE COUNTY WITH THOSE IS AVAILABLE IN THE.

>> WE HAVE 387 SPOTS AND IS GOING TO GO DOWN TO 25). IT IS ALSO QUESTIONABLE DIAGRAM THAT IS THAT THE DEVELOPER PAY THE STOCK OR DOES THE PAYBACK? IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN BACKED OUT OF THE BUILDING THOSE DOCS AND STILL BE ALLOWED TO FINISH BUILDING THE BOAT HOUSE. ALSO THERE'S AN ISSUE BUT THE OLD TANKS WITH EEL DOCS USED TO BE. IT'S IN CONSTRUCTION AND IF THEY GET DAMAGED AND WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE YOU WANT IN YOUR HANDS? THIS CRACK IS NOT OPPOSED TO

PARIS BUT THE STEAM STILL SEEMS LIKE A CORRUPTION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH LIKE I SAID IN THE LAST MEETING EVEN GRANTING AUTOMATIC TRUST OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY. TONIGHT HOPEFULLY IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE YESTERDAY TO VALIDATE THAT TRUST. AT THE SAME TIME WILL BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHO WE CAN INSTILL OUR TESTING. I STAND IN OPPOSITION AND

PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE PEOPLE AND MAKE US HUNGRY. >> JIMMY FRITOS?

AND THEN KEVIN CAME. >> MY NAME IS JIMMY FRITOS I LIVE AT 473 WATERS DRIVE FORT PIERCE. THE DEVELOPERS CREATING A DESTINATION FOR EVERYONE.

THE 3.2 ACRES AT FISHERMAN'S WHARF IS LAID DORMANT FOR QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

>> IF USE MONEY SO BE IT. DON'T DO IT AGAIN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ALREADY HAD A SURE RECORD FOR ME AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS. FROM WHAT I CAN CDC A WOULD IMAGINE AS THE WORD FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE ON A

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AS FAR AS FINANCIAL. THE THING IS WHEN I WAS A CHILD BROKE I WOULD GO DOWN TO THAT PERSON'S WORTH, CATCH MIGHT BE TO HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. NOW IF I GO DOWN THERE I CAN'T TAKE MY BEAUTIFUL FLOWER MERRY WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S DANGEROUS DOWN THERE.

THERE'S HOMELESS, DRUG ABUSE AND THOSE GOOD THINGS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE NEED MORE HOUSING AND NOT BUT IF WE COME UP WITH THE JOBS THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE FOR US WE CAN HELP THE HOMELESS AND HELP THE PEOPLE WITH THE DRUG PROBLEMS IN THOSE THINGS.

BACK IN THE DAY I WOULD TAKE PEOPLE FISHING GO TO THE RESTAURANT WITH THE FISH THAT WE CAUGHT AND THE BARTENDERS MADE MONEY. THE WAITRESSES MEAN MONEY THE OWNERS MADE MONEY AND I WOULD GET GOOD TIPS AND SO EVERYBODY ELSE.

OUR HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD COME AND SEE WHAT THIS CAN BE AND SEE WHAT WE SAID THAT WE WOULD DO. I SUPPORT MISTER SHAUNA THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR FORT PIERCE.

>> KEVIN KING FOLLOWED BY MIKE JENKINS. >> KEVIN CAME LIFELONG WITHIN FORT PIERCE. THE DEFENDANT DELIVERING REFERENCE WAS ISSUED ON NOVEMBER 16, 1954 BY THE TRUSTEES OF THE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT FOR IN THE CITY 19.7 ACRE WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE PROPERTY THINGS SOLD AND DESCRIBED IN THE AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND DEVELOPMENT WITH SHELLEY AND ASSOCIATES DATED AUGUST 16, 2021.

THIS DEED EXPRESSLY SETS THE RESTRICTION OF THIS LAND REMAINS SOLELY FOR PUBLIC ARE SOLD TO A PRIVATE PERSON, FIRM OR CORPORATION. THAT HOWEVER IT UPHOLDS THAT STATUTE WITH RESTRICTIONS PLACED IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THE PROJECT AGREEMENT DATED DECEMBER 19, 2017 IS THE DOCUMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TRYING TO TERMINATE.

BECAUSE IT IS A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT THE PROGRAM WILL BE DEDICATED FOR USE IN PUBLIC FOR A PERIOD OF 25 YEARS. IT'S CALLED THE SITE DEDICATION.

PARTIES AGREE TO COMPLY WITH THE SITE DEDICATION SET OUT IN EXHIBIT B. EXHIBIT B CONTAINS LANGUAGE FROM THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT DEFINING THE SITE DEDICATION.

IT STIPULATES THE RENT MUST REMAIN FOR PUBLIC USE FIRMAMENT 25 YEARS.

THIS PROJECT AGREES THAT IT STATES ON PAGE 2 PARAGRAPH FOR A TERMINATION CLAUSE THAT THE TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT SHALL NOT OPERATE TO TERMINATE THE SITE DEDICATION.

REFERENCED IN PARAGRAPH TWO. THANK YOU. >> MIKE JENKINS FOLLOWED BY

TAYLOR SCHOLL. >> GOOD EVENING. MIKE JENKINS.

>> COMMISSION GAMES I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT PROFOUND STATEMENT HE HAD TO TAKE MY POLITICAL HANDOFF BUT MY COMMONSENSE HAT ON. THAT'S A READINESS TO START DOING. USE SOME COMMON SENSE ON THIS. OUR FAMILY IS A TOLD YOU LAST WEEK REDEVELOPED THIS PROPERTY BACK IN THE 70S. 75 OR 74. WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY WE NEED TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. THE TAXES ARE CRAZY.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT US TO FIND SOME WAY TO DO THAT BOAT HOUSE MAYBE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WE WANT TO KEEP THE RAMP. I WANT PEOPLE TO USE THE PROGRAM.

WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN WE RELINQUISH THE 19 IS? BACK TO THE DEVELOPER AND WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER IT ANYMORE? HE SAID SOMETHING TO SELL TO SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER IT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT WILL BE DONE. I WISH A COMPROMISE. WE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH KERSHAW AND EVERYBODY ELSE. WE CAN MOVE THE BOAT HOUSE

SOMEPLACE ELSE. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> TAYLOR SHAWL AND KRISTA

STONE. >> GOT GOT IT I HAVE TO FOLLOW HER.

>> TAKE YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS TAYLOR SCHOLL I MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO FROM

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WASHINGTON D.C.. I LIVE IN A FULL-TIME YEAR-ROUND. THE TWO PROJECTS, KING'S LANDING AND THE WHARF INSPIRED ME TO OPEN A RESTAURANT HERE ON THE ISLAND WHICH WILL BE OPENING THIS SPRING. I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE COMMITTEE APPROVING ME THAN I STAND HERE AND SUPPORT AS WELL. WE DO NEED MORE MILLIGRAMS ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYONE ELSE AT THAT. I'M A FISHERMAN AS WELL.

THE FISH FOUR OR FIVE TIMES WEEK. SEE THE NEED BUT ALSO SEE THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE MOVED FORWARD IN THAT AREA TO BE CLEANED UP.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE BOOM FOR THE TAX BASE HERE. IT CAN EMPLOY A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD IF THESE PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD.

I'M EMPLOYING 40 TO 50 PEOPLE. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN OTHER PROJECTS NOT HERE.

I MOVED HERE TO COME TO A QUIET PLACE. >> THANK YOU.

>> KRISTA LOGAN. >> HELLO COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KRISTA STONE I LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE MISINFORMATION BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AMONG SO MANY PEOPLE.

I'D LIKE TO JUST TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS. I'M VERY MUCH AWARE AS AN ADVOCATE AND BEING INVOLVED WITH THE REEF PROGRAM AND WORKING ON MONITORING THE CITY AS WELL AS WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS OF THE IMPORTANCE AND PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION OF OUR WATERWAYS AND SECURING OUR FISHERMEN AND OUR LIFE WE HAD HERE.

WHAT I AM ASKING IS FOR PEOPLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EDUCATED IN GETTING INVOLVED WITH WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING WITH IN OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTY SUCH AS WHEN WE HEARD MISSED HOUSE AND SPEAK ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS WELL AS HARBOR POINT PARK WITH THE POTENTIAL OF NEW DOCS COMING OUT THERE AND YES I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE GETTING TOGETHER AND FINDING OUT INFORMATION AS TO THE PROJECT WITH MISTER SHELLEY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN NEGOTIATION. I'M VERY SORRY FOR THE MISINFORMATION AND THE UNFORTUNATE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE ON THE LEVELS FOR MANY PARTIES. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I STAND HERE TO SAY THAT I DO SUPPORT FISHERMAN'S WHARF. AS WELL AS SUPPORTING THE ADVOCACY AND PRESERVATION FOR FISHERMAN AND BRINGING TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THAT CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE WINNING TOGETHER. HARBOR POINT PARK IS CERTAINLY A PLACE THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. AS FAR AS WITH THE PORT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND I'M ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE CITY AND COUNTY'S DECISIONS TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I NEED JOEY CLANTON. >> THANK YOU THINK I THANK YOU FOR GATHERING. I'M JOEY CLANTON AND LOCAL. I WAS RESIDING AT 707 11TH STREET. I PLAYED BALL ON SOME OF THE GUYS.

AND IF NOT A LOCAL. 32 YEARS AGO I CAUGHT MY FIRST SNUCK IN THE SIN.

I DROVE BY THERE IT'S KIND OF SAD TO SEE SOMEBODY NOT WANTING TO WORK WITH OUR OUR RESOURCES.

THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR TOWN IS KNOWN FOR. IT'S NOT LIKE BRING PEOPLE

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HERE. THE LOCAL KNOWLEDGE THAT COMES FROM THE RAMP THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT THAT. PEOPLE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY WERE BOTH.

IT'S DANGEROUS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD TO SEE THESE. WE EMBRACE THE OUT-OF-TOWNERS BUT TO SEE THEM IT'S DANGEROUS. NOT TO MENTION A HURRICANE. IF WE HAVE TO EXIT WE ARE RELYING ON ONE BOAT RAMP. THE STAND ALONE. COMMUNITY CENTER IS CLOSED MORE THAN ITS OPEN YEAR-ROUND. THAT MANATEE CENTER IS NOT EVEN A WORKING POWERPLANT ANYMORE SO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S EVEN CLOSE TO START WITH. THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THIS CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND TELLING US YOUR FEELINGS AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES ME HAPPIER THAN A FULL CHAMBER PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT FORT PIERCE SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> NOW WE ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY ITEM? OF COURSE A HAS ALREADY BEEN POLLED SO THIS IS NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION. IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEM IN ITS BE PULLED DISCUSSED? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE

CONSENT AGENDA. >> MADAM MOTION I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEM EIGHT BEING PULLED.> THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEA.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 22-036 amending Chapter 34 - Article I and Chapter 34 - Article II establishing Parking Regulations. SECOND READING]

NEXT WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE HEARING. IT'S THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 22 ? 036 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 34 ARTICLE ONE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RESERVES SECTIONS AMENDING CHAPTER 34 ARTICLE 2 BY DELETING SECTIONS 34 ? 35 THROUGH 34 ? 62. AMENDING CHAPTER 34 ARTICLE 2 BY TITLE AND AMENDING CHAPTER 34 ARTICLE 2 BY ADDING SECTIONS 34 ? 16 THROUGH 34/ 62 TO ESTABLISH PARKING REGULATIONS. IT PROVIDES FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> AS I SAID IT WAS THE SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THE COMMISSION FOR THIS

ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> THING KNOW I'LL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.> MAN-TO-MAN THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 ? 036.

>> SECOND.> IS A MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

THIS NOW THAT IT'S RATIFIED FOR THE SECOND HEARING ONE THIS IS ACTUALLY BECOME BLE?

>> I BELIEVE IT BECOMES A FORCIBLE SIN AS THE MAYOR SIGNS SIGNS THE DOCUMENT.

>> WE NOW HAVE A CAMPGROUND ADJACENT TO THE SQUARE GROUP IN THE PARKING LOT.

WE PROBABLY HAVE SIX CAMPERS THAT ARE RESIDING THERE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NEW PARKING ORDINANCE HAVING WORKED ON IT THROUGH THE PARKING COMMITTEE THAT OVERNIGHT PARKING IS NOW NOT ALLOWED IF PROPERLY NOTICED WITH SIGNAGE.

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>> I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT OVERNIGHT PARKING IS ALLOWED PREVIOUSLY AND SO IT'S A MATTER OF ENFORCEMENT. IF WE ARE AWARE OF THIS

CONDITION THAT IS OCCURRING WE SHALL ADDRESS THE VIOLATORS. >> THEY SEEM TO RECOLLECT THAT THIS ORDINANCE NEEDED TO BE PASSED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL BUT I COULD BE MISTAKEN ON THAT. WE WORKED ON THIS MONTHS AGO. HOWEVER DO BELIEVE THAT THEY INDICATED WE NEEDED THIS IN PLACE TO COMPLETE THE ENFORCEMENT CIRCLE.

>> MY OFFICE HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS VERY SAME COMPLAINT AND WE HAVE RELAYED THAT INFORMATION TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE ALSO AWARE AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO IMITATE THE SITUATION AND ALSO WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE MOST OF THESE VIOLATIONS TAKE PLACE IN THE NON-REGULAR WORKING HOURS.

IT'S A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF VISITORS

FROM OTHER PARTS THAT WILL MAKE HIM AWAY. >> UNITS OF GOTTEN THE SAME

EMAIL I DID. >> YOU BE ASKED TO MOVE. >> SHOWING MOVE ON?

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 22-038 Amendments to Chapter 109 of the Code of Ordinances entitled Floodplain Management. SECOND READING]

>> MAKES ME OF ORDINANCE 22 ? 038. THE SUMMONS CHAPTER 109 OF THE COURT AND ORDINANCES FOR THE MANAGEMENT TO AMEND DEFINITIONS TO CLARIFY FLOOD ZONE ELEVATION DETERMINING CRITERIA PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY AND SEVERABILITY FOR ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 22 ? 08. >> SECOND.

>> IS A MOTION IN THE SECOND PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 22-040 - Amending the Code of Ordinances of the City at Chapter 121-Subdivisions, Sections 121-8, 121-9 and, 121-10 relating to the general provisions, review, and procedure for platting property. FIRST READING]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 22 ? ZERO 40 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CHAPTER 121 SUBDIVISION SECTION 121 ? EIGHT, GENERAL PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO LAND SECTION 121 ? NINE, PLAT PROCEDURE, CITY PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND SECTION 121 ? 10 PLATZ PECIFICATION. AMENDING THE PRELIMINARY UIREMENTS PROCESS PROVIDING FOR AN OPTIONAL PRELIMINARY PLAT AND SPECIFYING A FINAL PLAT BE CONSISTENT WITH STATE STATUTE.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE WITH ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH AND AN

EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> YES SIR.

>> THANK YOU MAN-TO-MAN. PLANNING DIRECTOR. I CAN'T SEE THE ROOM FROM HERE

IF YOU COULD. >> THANK YOU. STAFF HAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION TODAY. IT'S BASED ON A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS FIRST MENTIONED BY A TASK FORCE ON THE ECONOMIC DONNING COUNSEL. THEY BROUGHT FORWARD A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THE ST. LUCIE DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE.

IT BRINGS TO LIGHT THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT MPROVEMENT THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT IN AND THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO BRING AN IMPROVEMENT IN. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO

PROCESS AND PRELIMINARY PLAT. >> THE CURRENT PROCESS THE PROCESS PUTS IN PLACE A LOT OF

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CITY REQUIREMENTS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE STATES THAT SHE WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE.

WE WERE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE DEALING WITH PLATZ AND THAT WAS ALSO SOME SORT OF CONFUSION WITH SURVEYORS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT. TO MAKE THINGS AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE I THOUGHT I WOULD DO A GRAPHIC OUTLINE OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS AT THE MOMENT. AND WITH THE AMENDED PROCESS IS SUGGESTED TO BE. THE EXISTING PROCESS IS VERY LENIENT.

IT STARTS AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND AT THE MANDATORY REQUIREMENT.

APPLICANTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING BY AN APPLICANT TO WALK INTO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. I SAID THE EXISTING PROCESS IS A FRIEND TO HAVE A PROCESS AND REQUIRES A LOT OF INVESTMENT AND A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE BY THE APPLICANT BEFORE THEY CAN GET AN ADDRESS ON PROPERTIES AND MOVE FORWARD WITH BUILDING PERMITS. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING HAPPENING IN SOMETHING NOT HAPPENING.

IF IT'S A DOWNTURN OR AFFECTS THE DOWNTURN IT'S THE DELAY IN GETTING SOMETHING MOVING.

IT'S HOW WE COULD DO THAT AND ACHIEVE THAT. APPLICANTS CAN STILL APPLY FOR IT. IT'S THE MOST SIMPLER REVIEW. IN ESSENCE IS A LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND A SIMPLE SURVEY OF PLOT LINES. IT ENABLES THE ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS AND MOVING FORWARD FORWARD WITH SITE PLAN ACTIVITY.

IT HAS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED SITE PLAN. WHATEVER HAS BEEN IMPROVED IN THE PAST FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION IT HAS TO COME FORWARD WITH THAT.

IT'S NOTHING DIFFERENT TO WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED PRIOR TO THAT.

THE OPTIONAL PIECE IS INTENDED TO BE MORE OF A TECHNICAL PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL

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PROCESS. IT'S A PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND THAT'S VERY DETAILED TO LOOK AT THE VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE STATE STATUTE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION BECAUSE I THINK IT HELPS BOTH THE PROCESS AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HANDLE INQUIRIES FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND IT HELPS APPLICANTS BETTER PLAN AND SCHEDULE THEIR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES ON THE PROPERTY. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND. WE DID RESPOND PRESENT THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD ON NOVEMBER 14 EARLIER THIS YEAR. THEY MADE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS ARE RECOMMENDED MODIFICATIONS WHICH WOULD INCORPORATE CARE.

ONE OF THE MODIFICATIONS WE THOUGHT WERE ACCEPTABLE WAS TO IN THE AMENDED PROCESS AND OPTIONAL PRELIMINARY PLAT GIVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITY

COMMISSION FROM THAT DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. >> MONOMERIC WE CAN STOP RIGHT THERE FOR A MINUTE. UNDERSTANDING THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PROP PROCESS I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE ROOT QUESTION. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE OUR

TECHNICAL REVIEW BOARDS EVER CHANGED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. >> WE DID HAVE THE PROCESSES SLEPT IN TERMS OF IT ENGAGES YOU TO THINK THAT IT'S A PRELIMINARY AND THERE'S MORE TO COME. IT'S OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. AT SOME OF THE FINAL PLAT.

>> WE FALL IN ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AND HEARING RECENTLY. IT WAS PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE MISUNDERSTANDING WAS DEVELOPED UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PRELIMINARY WOULD BE REVIEWED AND THE FINAL PLAT WILL COME IN AND THAT WOULD BE THE BASIS OF THE APPROVAL.

IN TERMS OF PORT COMING OUT AND AMENDING THE DRAWINGS WE HAVE IS A PLOT THAT COMES BEFORE

THEM. >> FROM THE OUTSIDER PERSPECTIVE LOOKING TO MAKE AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY. THEY ARE PREPARED IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WHY NO THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY BRING IN THE APPLICATIONS MANY TIMES. FROM A STAFF'S RESPECTIVE BASICALLY OF A HAND MEET TEDDY PACKAGES ONCE IT SAID AND DONE COMPLETE.

THEY HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN YOUR HAND FROM STAFF LEVEL READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE SITE PLANNING AND WHATNOT. THAT'S JUST MY EXPERIENCE OF IT. I KNOW THERE'S AN AMENDED PROCESS ON THE SCREEN.

ARE WE ABLE AS A COMMISSION TO BYPASS WHAT I SEE IN THE YELLOW SQUARE AMENDED AND ALLOW THE STAFF TO REVIEW AND REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY PLAT CAN START DO THAT IN LIEU OF TECHNICAL

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REVIEW PLANNING INTO THE FINAL PLAT? IS THAT AN OPTION?

>> I THINK WORKING INTENDING WITH THE CITIES AND GENETICALLY POSSIBLE.

>> CAN I JUST GO BACK TO THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PROCESS.

ELIMINATING THE DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN BECAUSE IN IT'S

VERY TEDIOUS FOR MANY YEARS. >> AND COSTLY. >> LOOKING AT THE PLANNING BOARD AND STAFF TIME AND WHATNOT. JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS THE PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT. THAT'S WHERE THE GROUPS FROM THE OUTSIDE CAME INTO PLAY.

MS. COX WAS PART OF THAT. YOU ARE LEADING THE CHARGE IN A WAY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE GROUPS. WE JUST HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO ELIMINATE THE DUAL EFFORT

THAT'S ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. >> IS THE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE BEING HELD BETWEEN BUILDING AND ENGINEERING. OBVIOUSLY WE RESPECT THE BOARDS ON THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. IT IS AT THEIR DISCRETION OF

THIS COMMISSION WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO HANDLE THAT PIECE. >> I SEE IT IS LIMITED IN ONE STEP IF YOU COMPARE LEFT TO RIGHT WHICH IS VERY TEDIOUS TO COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION INTO THE APPROVAL PROCESS IS A VERY BIG STUFF TO JUMP OVER. IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOK.

FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE THERE? >> THE FIRST COUPLE COMMENTS.

WHEN YOU ARE CORRECT THAT I DON'T RECALL THE PLANNING BOARD TURNING ARE VOTING DOWN A PRELIMINARY PLAT EVER. THAT'S FROM THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

HAVING SAID THAT I BELIEVE THAT ELIMINATING THAT PORTION OF THE PROCESS IS COMING TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO NOT REVIEW A PRELIMINARY PLAT SHOULD BE DONE.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO BEGIN A PRELIMINARY PLAT TO COME THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT SPEEDS UP THE COST FOR THE DEVELOPER BOTH OF WHICH ARE ADVENTITIOUS.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF KEEPING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE BECAUSE WE NOW KNOW THAT IT'S GOTTEN THEIR BLESSING MOVING UP THROUGH THE RANKS.

>> WILL MAKE THE CITY COMMISSION PORTION OF THE IN ITS ENTIRETY WHICH SAVES AT LEAST A MONTH MAYBE MORE IN THE TIMELINE AND COST FACTOR BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NOT BEING OPTIONAL. I SEE IT BEING A REQUIREMENT. IS THERE REASON THAT THEY ARE

INDICATING TO MAKE OPTIONAL SCENARIO VERSUS MANDATORY? >> THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECTS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD JUST WANT TO MOVE STRAIGHT INTO THE FINAL PLAT.

THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT MAKES PRELIMINARY PLAT MANDATORY.

>> IF YOU DON'T GET IN THE WEEDS ON THIS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS CERTAIN THRESHOLDS FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL WITHOUT GOING TO PLANNING AND TO CITY COMMISSION

ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF IT WITH NUMBER OF UNITS IS. >> IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

I HAVE SOME DISCRETIONARY QUICK MAKING IT MANDATORY FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEN IT'S GONE. WE DON'T SEE IT. IT COMES INTO THE FINAL PHASE AND MOVES UP TO THE FOOD CHAIN AT THAT POINT IN TIME. I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING AND HAVE MORE DISCRETION AND BEING ABLE TO SPEED UP THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

I BELIEVE THIS IS AN EXCELLENT START. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING BOARD DEAL WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND REMOVING IT FROM THE CITY COMMISSION

ENTIRELY. >> THAT'S THE WAY IT IS HERE. >> IS OPTIONAL.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT OPTIONAL? >> HE SUGGESTING THAT THE STATE IS OPTIONAL AND MANDATORY. I THINK THAT THE PROCESS WITH AN OPTIONAL IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF AN APPLICANT CHOSE TO COME IN FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT OR PROCESS WITH THAT BRING? WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO HEAR IS REMOVING THE MANDATORY NATURE OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. APPLICANTS CAN GO STRAIGHT TO FINAL PLAT WHICH INCLUDES EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND MORE.

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IT'S MUCH MORE DETAILED. THE OPTIONAL PRELIMINARY PLAT IS INTENDED TO ALLOW AND CUT DOWN ON TIME FOR APPLICANTS AND MONEY AND EXPENSE TO GET A PLAN OR PLAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ENGINEERING AND TO BUILDING SO THAT WE COULD START A BUILDING PERMIT.

>> WITH HIM IS LIKE A LITMUS TEST. IF THEY WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE

SO BE IT. >> YOU CAN JUMP DIRECTLY AND FULLY COMMIT THE TALENT POOL.

>> CAN BE UP TO YOUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THOUGHT THE EYES AND CROSS THE TEASE IS IF THEY DON'T CAN BECOME PROBLEMATIC BUT THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING PROCESS.

>> NO APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING THE FINAL PLAT.

>> THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. >> JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

SOMETHING ABOUT THE APPLICANTS NOW.I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANTED TO.

JEREMIAH WRIGHT LINE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. IF I'M AN APPLICANT WHY WOULD I WANT TO WAIT TO THE FINAL STAGE AND BRING IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION ONE IF IT'S SOMETHING EARLY ON THAT WE DON'T LIKE EVEN NOW THE PLANNING BOARD OF CNET WITH THE APPROVAL. WE HAVE 1000 QUESTIONS. WITHIN THE APPLICANT WANT TO HEAR OUR QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF LIKE YOU SAID JUMPING IN THE POOL.

FIRST BEFORE HE JUMPS IN THE POOL AND THEN HE COMES HERE AND HE HAS 1000 QUESTIONS AND HE HAS TO GO BACK OR HE GETS A DENIAL BECAUSE HE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE FOR SHE HASN'T HAD A

CHANCE TO BRING IN FRONT OF US WITH OUR CONCERNS. >> THIS COULD BE A PARALLEL

PROCESS. >> IT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT LANDSCAPING ACCESS. THOSE THINGS. HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN THERE AND EVERYTHING. THAT DISCUSSION BRINGS FORWARD A PLAN THAT WE EXTEND THE APPLICANT WORKS TO DO THE FINAL PLAT. THE FINAL PLAT HAS TO CORRESPOND AND AGREE WITH WITH THE COMMISSION APPROVED AS THE SITE PLAN.

>> I GET THAT BUT FROM WHAT I'VE READ AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FINAL PLAT SO THE FIRST TIME I WOULD SEE ANYTHING WOULD BE GOING TO THE FINAL PLAT THROUGH TECHNICAL REVIEW PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND THEN PUT ON THE CALENDAR TO COME SEE US.

THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THE APPLICANT FANFARE IN FRONT OF US IN HIS QUESTIONS

FROM US. >> IF YOU CHOSE A YEAR? THE SAME HERE.

>> AND I REMEMBER TOO MANY APPLICANTS COMING UP SAYING FOR NOT HAVING QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> I HAVE AN UP IN THE PUBLIC, YET.

>> I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE TO PROBABLY ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

>> ONE PUBLIC COMMENT COMES I WILL CALL ON HIM. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN

HERE. >> I WILL WAIT MAN-TO-MAN. >> WILL BE THE FIRST ONE UP I

HOPE. >> BEFORE WE GET THE PUBLIC, COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON AND COMMISSIONER BROWN.> A LOOK AT THIS AS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENTAL RISKS HERE.

IF THE DEVELOPER FEELS THEY CAN COME TO US WITH THE FINAL PLAT AND THEY WORK THROUGH THIS AND THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO IT GIVES THEM A PATHWAY TO DO THAT AND THAT CUTS DOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT COST. I LIKE THAT ASPECT.

WE GET A CHANCE TO REACT TO THAT ASSUMPTION IS WE HOPE THAT THEY WILL BE TESTED.

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>> WE DO SUBMIT A FINAL VERSION OF THE POINT WHEN IT COMES TO US SO THAT SIDING ON A BIG PART AND THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED THIS. THINK THAT THIS GIVES US AN ON AND OFF RAMP FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPERS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. I KNOW THIS COMMITTEE PARTICULARLY ON MY TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE CURRENT PROCESS NOW IS JUST LONG. I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS. IF THERE ARE NEW AND THEY NEVER DONE THINGS BEFORE IT GIVES THEM AWAY TO TEST THE WATER TO SEE WHAT IS THE TO BUILD A STRUCTURE IN FORT PIERCE.

THOSE THAT HAVE BUILT THINGS HERE BEFORE OR HAVE CERTAIN CONSULTANTS THAT THEY WORK WITH THAT KNOW OUR SYSTEM, THEY KNOW WHAT TO COME WITH HERE AND WHAT WE WILL LOOK FOR.

THAT'S KIND OF HOW I INTERPRET. >> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK? >> JUST ONE CLARIFICATION.

THE FINAL PLAT COMES UP THROUGH THE RANKS AND TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND DENIAL. AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL PLAT WE ALSO ARE ENGAGING IN A DISCUSSION ON SITE PLAN OR IS THE SITE PLAN COMING IN SUBSEQUENT TO THE FINAL PLAT

BEING APPROVED? >> THE SITE PLAN SHOULD HAVE ARTIE BEEN APPROVED PRIOR TO THE FINAL PLAT BEING DONE. THE TWO HUGE RISK TO COME IN AND DO THE FINAL PLAT.

>> WE ARE GETTING IT SIMULTANEOUSLY IN THIS PROCESS I WILL LEAVE SOME OF THE

COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> I WILL WAIT TO HEAR THE OTHER EXPERTS ON THIS BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS WHICH I DID FAVOR OF MIND YOU.

I FEEL THESE THINGS GET DRAGGED INTO EROS HOWEVER THE FINAL PLAT AND SITE PLAN ARE LINKED TOGETHER WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY MAKE SENSE I THINK THAT THAT WOULD TRULY EXPEDITE THE PROCESS TO A ONE NICE PACKAGE OUT THE DOOR POTENTIALLY UNLESS THIS

COMMISSION SEES FIT NOT TO DO SO. >> MAY OR JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. WE ARE RIGHT ON TARGET WILL HEAR SOME GOOD INFORMATION BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE THAT'S MARKED UP ACROSS IS OUT AND STRIKES OUT A LOT OF STEPS.

YOU TALK ABOUT PRELIMINARY AND THE WORD PRELIMINARY IN ITS OWN DEFINITION IS NOT DEFINED.

>> ARE SO MUCH A MATTER. >> NAME THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

WILL YOU CONNECT? SURVEY 1 FOOT FOR SOME INTERVALS OF FEAT WITHIN THE PROPERTY. IT'S JUST SILLY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE CLEAN

UP. >> IT SO MUCH MY NATION AND COST.

>> THE PUBLIC IS ALWAYS CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMENT, PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND APPLICATIONS TONIGHT. FOLKS ARE HERE FOR THOSE AND THEY CAN, DISAGREE WILL DO

TONIGHT. >> I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

MISTER DOBBINS PLEASE COME AND HELP US OUT. >> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I AM ON THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> LEE DOBBINS FOR THE RECORD I'M WITH THE DB LAW FIRM HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THIS IS ONE THAT LIKE THE ENGINEERS AND SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT. MY PRACTICE IS REALLY COMBINED TO CONFINED TO THE COUNTY IN A LITTLE BIT IN MARTIN COUNTY SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE BUT WITH THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT I FELT WITH THIS PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TYPICALLY REQUIRED TO GO TO PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN FINAL PLAT.

IN MOST PLACES YOU JUST GO TO THE FINAL PLAT AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAD SOME OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS OF THE DISCUSSION. TYPICALLY DO A SITE PLAN APPROVAL FIRST AND EVERYTHING GETS THRASHED OUT IN THE DETAILS FOR THE SETBACKS.

THE PLOT IS JUST REALLY COMING IN AND FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME PATTERN AS THE SITE PLAN WITH EVERYTHING AND NOT CONSISTENT. SOMETIME CLIENTS TO ASK EVERYONE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS QUICKLY CAN WE RUN THE SITE PLAN AND THE PLAT CURRENTLY.

WHAT THE ENGINEERS WILL TYPICALLY TELL US IS SURE IF YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY BECAUSE YOU SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THE PLAT THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT GOES INTO

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THAT. TYPICALLY I CAN'T REMEMBER EVERY THING THE CLIENT GOES FOR WITH DOING IT CONCURRENTLY. THERE WAS TO THE SITE PLAN FIRST ENEMY TO THE PLOT.

NOBODY EVER REALLY DOES PRELIMINARY AND FINAL VOLUNTARILY.

THEY DO THEM IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO.

ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVAL IN THE VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS IT'S GOOD FOR ONE TO THREE YEARS. AT THAT POINT YOU WANT TO GO GET YOUR POT APPROVED AND THEN GOD AND SELL LOTS AND BUILD A SUBDIVISION. THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO DO THE TWO STEPS. JUST GO TO FINAL PLAT. THE ONLY SITUATION WHERE I SAW AND I WANT TO DO IT FOR PRELIMINARY AND START THEIR IS IN A CASE WHERE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE AN APPLY ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS EITHER HAVE TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE OR BOND OR INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET YOUR PLAT APPROVED. THAT MIGHT BE A CASE WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT ELECT TO DO A PRELIMINARY AND THEY'RE NOT READY TO PUT THE MONEY UP TO BONNIE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY GET THE PRELIMINARY APPROVED KNOWING THEY CAN COME BACK LATER WITH THE PRELIMINARY AND HANDED COME IN FOR THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL. OTHER THAN THAT EVERYBODY GO

STRAIGHT TO FINAL. >> ONLY THING YOU JUST MENTIONED IS THE BONDING OF INFRASTRUCTURE. IS ALSO IN FLORIDA STATUTE? HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT? AS I CONSIDER THE BONDING PART OF IT? YOU CAN THEN USE A CD TO BUILD IT. AND GET THE FUNDS BACK.

I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF INDEPENDENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PUT THE BOND AND THEN FIGURE

OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR. >> EITHER WAY YOU'RE PUTTING

UP SOME SURETY OF THE DEVELOPER. >> INDICATE THAT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT WITH THE OPTIONAL PORTION OF THIS PROCESS.

IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE UTILIZED. >> IT SOMEPLACE FOR SPECIFIC REASONS BUT POTENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT 50% OF THIS PROCESS IN ITS ENTIRETY WITH

THIS MOVE HERE THIS EVENING. >> THAT WOULD BE MY EXPECTATION.

>> MAJORITY OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE TO COME IN FOR A FINAL PLAT.

>> MISTER FREEMAN BEFORE I DO MY PUBLIC, >> I DO AGREE THAT THE MAJORITY OF PLOTS WILL COME FORWARD AS FINAL PLAT. THE ISSUE THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED VERY RECENTLY AND MAYBE WE HAVE NOT ENCOUNTERED IT BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING UGH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS COMING N AND FINANCING INVOLVED. THE ISSUE OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING US THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. BEFORE THE CITY CAN ISSUE CAN START ON A PERMANENT BABY MATTRESS FOR PROPERLY. WE HAVE DEVELOPED THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

AND THEY WANT TO START VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE-FAMILY OR TOWNHOME YOU.

AT THE MOMENT YOU HAVE ONE ADDRESS THE WHOLE PROPERTY. THE BUILDING PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUED FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES TO BE FILLED. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT. DESCRIBING THE LOT LINE IN A LEGAL DESCRIPTION.

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>> IN SECTION 121 ? NINE WE ADDED THE SUBSECTION D TO SAY WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

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AS ARE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO

IN THE CONSENT WORTH THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.

>> ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEDURES BECAUSE THE COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE CODE AND COMPARING THAT TO THE APPLICATION BEFORE AND

APPLYING A CODE AND MAKING A DECISION. >> REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARING IS

THAT WE ARE SAYING. >> YES, IT DOES REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. IT'S NOT A LEGISLATIVE OF MATTER.

WE TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS. >> I DON'T SEE ANY REALLY BIG

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DIFFERENCES. THE OTHER ONE IS A DESCRIPTION IN SECTION 10 THREE ? G. THOSE ARE ENGINEERING THINGS THAT WHETHER THEY MAKE IT ON THERE OR NOT THAT'S OKAY.

I THINK THEY ARE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS. WE JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION

BECAUSE IT READS WELL. >> WITH US TRYING TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION ON PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US ABLE TO BILL THEIR PROJECTS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF WE APPROVE THEM.

>> COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. I'M TRYING TO READ HIS BODY LANGUAGE DOWN THERE. IF YOU WANT SOME EXTRA TIME THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

IF WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO MAKE THE TRAIN IS MOVING IF I HAD CRACKED ON THE SECOND READING.

IT WON'T DISRUPT THIS APPLECART THAT YOU PROPOSED HERE TONIGHT IF WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.

>> I DON'T THINK SO. I'D LIKE TO GET THIS PROCESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

IT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE PEOPLE. >> AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE MINOR ISSUES. HONESTLY WE CAN DO SOME MORE TWEAKING.

THIS IS NOT THE PROCESS NECESSARILY. IS ANYONE READY TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> THERE IS A MOTION ON A SECOND.>.

[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 22-046: Review and approval of a Voluntary Annexation by owners, St Joseph FTP LLC and representative, Chris Ossa, P.E. – Kimley-Horn & Associates, Inc., to extend the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include one (1) parcel at or near 2605 Kerr Street in Fort Pierce, FL 34947. The proposed Future Land Use designation for the subject property is GC, General Commercial, with a proposed Zoning designation of C-3, General Commercial Zone. Parcel ID: 2313-332-0000-010-0 FIRST READING]

VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK. >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 22 ? ZERO 46.

THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA TO INCLUDE ONE PARCEL AT OR NEAR 2605 CARE STREET AND FOR FORT PIERCE FLORIDA DIRECTING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO PLACE IT ON THAT ROLE AS OF JANUARY 1, 2024 DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEARING DESCRIBED PROPERTY ASSUMPTION THE ZONING DESIGNATION ESTABLISHING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION DIRECTING, FIRING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF INITIATIVE OFFICER ST. LUCIE COUNTY. IT IS THE REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH. IT PROVIDES FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> STAFF? MISTER GILMER?

>> THAT EVENING THAT A MAN COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION FOR ONE PARCEL LOCATED AT 2605 CARE STREET.

>> DOES NOT PROPOSE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL. >> THE PLANNING BOARD AT THE NOVEMBER 14, 2022 MEETING VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

IT ALLOWS FOR RATIO OF 1.0. FUTURE LAND USE IS CONSIDERED TO BE SUITABLE HAVING EXAMINED THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY ITS TOPOGRAPHY, SOILS AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

PER THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION.

>> THE CITY COMMISSION HAS THE POSSIBLE ACTIONS WHICH ARE APPROVALS OF THE ANNEXATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE PROS ANNEXATION. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?> MADAM MAYOR. KERR STREET CORRECT?

IS A COUNTY ROAD? >> YES IT IS. >> I'M SURE IT MEETS COUNTY

STANDARDS NOT CITY STANDARDS WITH A ROADSIDE MOST LIKELY. >> THAT WOULD BE ENGINEERING.

>> @IJUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROACTIVE IN MY COMMENTS IN THIS DISCUSSION.

ONLINE ANNEXING PROPERTY BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE ROAD OF NEVER THINKING ABOUT A NEVER TAKING CARE OF THE ROADWAYS. IF WE'RE GOING TO ANNEX MORE PROPERTIES AND GOOD FOR THAT.

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HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SET A PRODUCT OF CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT IT QUITE OFTEN OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH ROADWAY AND BRINGING IT UP TO CITY

STANDARDS. >> THIS IS IN THE WESTERN QUARTER WHERE WE ARE DOING A LOT OF BUSINESS AND ANNEXATION SO WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING KNOW WHEN I'LL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAINING

MOTION. >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> IS A MOTION IN A SECOND CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

[e. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Conditional Use submitted by Brighter Care Adult Daycare Center LLC to operate an adult daycare at 415 Avenue A Street Fort Pierce FL 34950. Parcel ID: 2410-506-0005-000-3]

>> NEXT WE HAVE A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE OF THE TYPEWRITER CARE ADULT DAYCARE CENTER LLC TO OPERATE AN ADULT DAY CARE AT 415 AVENUE A STREET IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA.

>> WE HAVE MORE QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS TONIGHT SO I'M CAN ASK TO READ THE GUIDELINES FOR THE PROCEDURES AND IF YOU LISTEN TO THEM SHOULD ONLY DO IT ONCE. UNLESS YOU NEED THEM RIGHT

AGAIN PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> THIS WILL APPLY TO TRYING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE QUASIJUDICIAL. IT SERVES BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND CAUSE I ROLL WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIJUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION APPLIES THOSE POLICIES AND IS HELD TO STRICTER STANDARDS OF PROCEDURE.

SUCH PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL HAN BEFORE CIRCUIT COURT PORTER NOR ARE MORE FORMAL THAN A . THEY MUST FOLLOW TO PROCESS THE DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON CONFIDENCE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THEREFORE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT PROCEEDINGS LIKE JUDGES IN PROCESSION ERRORS THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED UNIFORM PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

FINALLY KNOWN TO APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DAIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CLERK DURING THE HEARING. F DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS WHO IS THE UNIFORM POLICE OFFICER IN THE CHAMBER.

>> HAVE THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET? >> YES MA'AM THE ADVERTISING

HAS BEEN MET. >> WOULD YOU QUESTION COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE? >>. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR ON THE WITNESSES NOW? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE PLEASE STAND AND RAISE

YOUR HAND. >>. >> META-MAYORS AND COMMISSIONERS. FOR YOU IS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A BRIGHTER DAY CARE CENTER TO BE LOCATED AT 415 AVENUE. IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ARCADE FACILITY.

CURRENT ZONING IS A FUTURE LAND USE OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL. IT IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY THE NAME OF THE BUILDING IS IN HERE AND THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE 9:00 A.M. TO 4:00 P.M.. IT'S THE CAPACITY OF 10 PATIENTS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE. PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR 2022 MEETING VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF CITY COMMISSION ON, APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION INDUCE WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE CONDITINAL USE. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?> JUST ONE QUESTION. WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE USE AND

THE NEED FOR THE APPROVAL? >> THE ALLOWED USE TABLE 125 ? 37 REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE

FOR DAYCARE'S AND SCHOOLS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

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>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANY OF ONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? >> WE THANK YOU.

I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAINING QUICK SUBMIT TO PROVE.

>> SECOND.> CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >>.

[f. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) with a Conditional Use to construct a 114-unit multi-family innovative residential development with a 2,534 square foot clubhouse, 800 square foot pool, and associated site improvements at or near 4701 Regina Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida, more specifically located at Parcel Control Number: 3403-501-0025-000-5.]

>> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU. >> THE NEXT IS THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE TO CONSTRUCT A 114 MULTIFAMILY INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE 2534 FT.? CLUBHOUSE, 800 FT.? POOL, AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT OR NEAR 4701 REGINA DRIVE IN FORT PIERCE FLORIDA.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> HAVE THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET.

>> THE ADVERTISING FOR THIS ITEM HAS BEEN MET. >> WILL YOU ASK ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS? >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> NON-

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> I WANT TO SAY I'M UNSURE BUT I THINK SO.

I THINK I HAVE SOME EMAILS OR SOMETHING. LET ME ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

>> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON. >> YES MA'AM I MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ATTORNEY.

>> ADMITTED THAN THE TWO. >> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> I MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS RESIDENTS NEARBY WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON QUESTIONER. >> NO MAN. >> THAT WAS WHEN I WAS ON MY Y

AGENDA. THIS PAST WEDNESDAY. >> I DON'T REMEMBER.

>> I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN. >> SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWING ON THE WITNESSES QUESTIONER.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THIS IS THE TIME TO STAND. >> USE THEIR SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

>> I DO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PROCEED.

>> EVENING META-MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE THE BALLERINA MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. TO BE TED AT 4701 REGINA NA DRIVE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 9.754 4 ACRES. IT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTH WEST

CORNER OF EAST WEATHERBY ROAD IN REGINA DRIVE. >> EXCUSE ME I'M SORRY I DID

HAVE A MEETING. >> WILL MAKE SURE. >> NOW THAT I SEE THE SITE

PLAN. >> FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WE GET BOMBARDED WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT TRIGGERS YOUR

MEMORY. PLEASE PROCEED. >> THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE OF RM MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL WITH OUR ? FOUR ZONE.

BEFORE YOU IS THE PROPOSED SITE WHICH INCLUDES 114 4 MULTIFAMILY INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNITS. IT CONSISTS OF NINE BUILDINGS. SIX TOWNHOME BUILDINGS THAT SIX OR TOWNHOME AND THREE ARE CONVENTIONAL APARTMENTS. THE CLUBHOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 2534 FT.?. THE PROPOSED POOL IS 800 FT.? AND IT INCLUDES ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. FOR DESIGN REVIEW THE BUILDING HAS A SMOOTH STUCCO FINISH IN AN ICE CUBE AND ROCK COLOR. ALSO THERE ARE 8 INCH WIDE STUCCO BANDS TO SIMULATE SIGNING BOARDS WHICH ARE OF A CAST-IRON COLOR. THE APPLICATION FOR AN INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT REQUIRES THE CONDITIONAL USE.

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THE APPLICANT SEEKS A DENSITY BONUS OF TWO PER ACRE. IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS DENSITY BONUS TO THE CONDITIONAL USE THEY HAVE TO JUSTIFY THESE THREE CRITERIA LANDSCAPING, SIDING AND DESIGN. THE LANDSCAPING PROVIDES FOR EFFECTIVE USE.

LANDSCAPING OF THIS INNOVATIVE INVOLVEMENT EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENT IN SECTION 125 ? 314 FOR THE LANDSCAPED AREA BY 10% FOR THE AMOUNT OF TREES BY 10% AND IN TERMS QUALITATIVE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LANDSCAPING. THE CODE MINIMUM FOR A TOTAL OF TREES IS 168. THE EPOCH HAS PROVIDED 330 TREES.

THIS EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT BY 13%. THE SITE PLAN PROVIDES FOR CREATIVE PLACEMENT OF BUILDINGS AND OTHER FACILITIES IN TERMS OF VISUAL FOCAL POINTS.

USE OF EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY VIEWS, SON AND WHEN WITH ORIENTATION.

THE CIRCULATION PATTERN VARIATION IN BUILDING SETBACKS AND FACILITY GROUPINGS.

THE DESIGN THAT PROVIDES FOR THE FEATURES INCLUDE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, USE OF BUILDING MATERIALS, VARIOUS USE OF HOUSING TYPES AND THE DESIGNED ELEMENTS OF THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNS. THE ARCHITECTURE INCLUDES A NEO-MODERN DESIGN WITH

BALCONIES, WINDOW CANOPIES AND AN OPEN STAIRWAY. >> BEFORE USE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

I'M NOT SURE THAT YOUR SIDESHOWS ARE VERY WELL EITHER BUT TALK TO ME SPECIFICALLY

ABOUT THE AREA AROUND THE LAKE. HE REFERENCED THE PLANTINGS. >> YES THAT IS A CODE

REQUIREMENT. >> HE PRESENTED SOMETHING HERE.

DID THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENT IN THIS LANDSCAPE? >> YES THEY MEET BOTH

LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. >> WHAT ABOUT THE LAKE SPECIFICALLY?

>> NOW. THAT'S RIGHT WITHOUT AN END. >> THE APPLICANT IS CAN HEAR

THAT QUESTION I MAKE A COMMENT. >> ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC IN MY

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DISCUSSIONS OUTSIDE OF HERE. >> IT WAS REFERENCED TO WHETHER IT'S THE ONLY TO THE

NORTH WHICH IS WHAT WEATHERBY. >> ANY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE TECHNICAL REVIEW FOR ANY KIND

OF TURN LANE SCHOOL DISTRICT COMMENTS ON BUS PICKUP SOUNDS? >> CORRECT.

DURING TECHNICAL REVIEW IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS AND HIS COMMENTS WERE THAT I GUESS THEY MEET THE SAME SCHOOL BOARD REQUIREMENTS FOR A

TURNAROUND. >> OF THE GOAL IS TO UTILIZE THE FRONT ENTRANCES WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING. >> YES. >> LOSS QUESTION IN REGARDS TO

PARKING? >> WHERE DID YOU REFERENCE PARKING? HUNDRED AND 14 UNITS AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WE HAVE ON THE SITE?

>> ON ASK A BETTER QUESTION. THE APPLICANT PROBABLY GIVE IT TO US SPECIFICALLY.

DO THEY MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS? >> ARE PROBABLY BACK THERE

TAKING A. >> THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 200 AND THREE PARKING SPACES.

>> SANDERS HAS REVIEWED THIS AND IT IS INCOMPLETE. HE HAS NO OUTSTANDING ISSUES.

>> SECONDARILY REGARDING A BUS STOP AREA FOR THE KIDS. IS THIS A COVERED AREA? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT IT WAS THE FRONT PORTION OF THE FACILITY AND

IT'S COVERED IS THAT CORRECT? >> AND HAVE TO DIFFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE OF STAFF? >> NOT BEEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DON'T START WITH THE APPLICANT FIASCO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU KNOW THE GOAL OF THIS.

>> HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING AS MISTER GEORGE BALLERINA AS WELL AS A SOLUTION OF ENGINEER AND A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. THIS IS THE TIME IN GROUPS FIRST PROJECT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE ARE HEARING ABOUT THE JOBS THAT YOU'RE CREATING AND THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES AND I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME HOUSING TO MEET THE JOB NEEDS.

THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE WORK THE CITY HAS ARTY BEEN DOING.

IT'S RELATIVELY A SMALL SITE JUST UNDER 10 ACRES WITH THE EXISTING LAND-USE BEING RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM. THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS FOR PUP TO 12 UNITS PER ACRE WE ARE ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS. IT'S NOT TO DISTURB ANY OF THE EXISTING HOMES TO SELL THEM POINSETTIA OR REGINA. THE SITE IS JUST OFF OF US1 A

FEW BLOCKS WEST OF US ONE. . >> APARTMENTS WAS WHEN THE

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LAKE ARE SURFACE PARKING SO THOSE WOULD BE UNASSIGNED SPACES THAT ANYONE LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY CAN COME AND PARK THERE. THE AXIS WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE OF THE PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED SO THAT SCHOOL BUSES COULD PULL IN AND HAVE A COVERED AREA FOR TESTING THE CLUB IS A GREAT LEASING OFFICE SO HAVE A FITNESS CENTER AND AN OUTDOOR POOL AREA WITH BARBECUE GRILLS AND FOR YOUNG FAMILIES IT WILL BE MOVING INTO THIS COMMUNITY. PHILIP PLACED THE PLACE AS WELL AS THE DOG PARK TOWARDS THE BACK RACE OF THE 40 ACRE TRACT THERE'S A LINEAR DOG PARK THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED THERE 44 TRACK IS RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE OF THE COUNTY SHOULD DECIDE TO WIDEN POINCIANA AVENUE.

THIS IS OUR PLAN WOULD WORK VERY HARD ON THIS RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME ESSENTIAL HOUSING THAT IS MARKET RATE AND IT DOES PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME OF THE NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED HERE IN THE WONDERFUL CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

WE DO HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS DOWN TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THAT SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPERS PUTTING IN IN ADDITION TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG REGINA SO WE'VE MADE A PROVISION FOR THAT. THERE IS ON STREET PARKING AS OPPOSED TO THE 90? PARKING WHICH IS INNOVATIVE AND I THINK YOUR STAFF EVEN SET IS NOT TYPICAL THAT YOU DO ON STREET PARKING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE BUT IT ADDS TO A HIGHER THAN AESTHETIC FOR THE DOCUMENT COMMUNITY. THIS CAPTURES AND TREATS OUR STORMWATER RUNOFF FOR CLEANING OF THE WATER. IT HAS BEEN OPERATING A NIGHT SO WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN WHAT WEATHERBY IS CAN BE A VERY ATTRACTIVE COMMUNITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO CALL IT HOME. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND OUR POINT OUT THAT YOUR STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT WE ARE SEEKING.

THE LANDSCAPING DOES EXCEED THE CITY CODE BY 13%. IT IS CREATIVE PLACEMENT OF BUILDINGS AND ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF THE ARCHITECTURE WHICH WE FIND VERY MODERN.

THERE ARE TWO PRODUCT TYPES THAT COMES WITH THE GARAGES ON THE APARTMENTS.

THE APARTMENTS HAVE BOTH THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND THEY RANGE IN SIZES.

IT'S MODERN TWO-STORY SO THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND SURROUNDING AREAS. THE PICTURE SHOWS SOME ON STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF THE YOU CAN TAKE YOUR HVAC EQUIPMENT PUT IT ON THE ROOF AND FREE UP THE GROUND SPACE FOR GREENERY AND LANDSCAPING WITH ENHANCING THE GROUND PLAN THESE ARE HUNDRED PERCENT

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CONCRETE BLOCK WITH IMPACT GLASS WINDOWS A VERY SOLID WELL-BUILT STRUCTURES.

IT'S MORE OF A CONTEMPORARY FEEL FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH THE BALCONIES.

THAT'S A LOT OF THE ESSENTIAL WORKFORCE HOUSING AND MARKET RATE AND WE THINK A LOT OF FAMILIES MOVE HERE AND A LOT OF TEACHERS THAT WILL BE AT WEATHERBY ELEMENTARY WILL APPEAR SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PROJECT. THIS IS THE CLUBHOUSE SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE SO WHEN YOU PULL INTO THE COMMUNITY THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE THE FIRST BUILDING THIS IS THE BACK OF THE CLUBHOUSE WITH THE POOL AND PATIO AREA WITH THE POOL DECK PLOCATED ON THE LAKE SPECIFICALLY SOUGHT TO PROVIDE A BACKDROP FOR THOSE PEOPLE VISITING THE CLUBHOUSE. THE TOWNHOME PROJECT PROVIDES A GOOD USE OF THE EXISTING INFILL DEVELOPMENT THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE SUPPORT TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF MY TEAM WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION. >> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>> AND THEN OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHAT WE WILL BE ASKING YOU TO COME BACK UP AT THE END BECAUSE THEY MAY RAISE SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY NEED TO ANSWER.

>> IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEVERAL QUESTIONS. >> PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> JUAN HERNANDEZ I GO BY JOHN HERNANDEZ I DO NOT LIVE IN THE AREA. I'M A REALTOR AND I HAVE

SEVERAL. >> WHICH TOWN YOU LIVE IN. >> I LIVE IN PORT ST. LUCIE.

I'VE BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. >> WE REQUIRE YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WAIL ABOUT

EVERYTHING. >> THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS HOW LONG WILL THE PROJECT GO

FORTH. >> US THE QUESTIONS THAT WILL GET THE ANSWERS.

>> THE LENGTH OF TIME IN THE MAIN CONCERN IS AS ANY CHANGE OR PROJECT THE CHANGE THAT COULD BE IN THE APPLICATION OR THIS WILL CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES OVER TO MAYBE A LOW INCOME FAMILY TOWN UNIT HOUSING AREA WHICH IS KIND OF A CONCERN DUE TO THE LOCAL SURROUNDING HOMES. IS ANYTHING IN THIS APPLICATION THAT COULD CHANGE TO A LOW INCOME? IT JUST MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> USE OF LENGTH OF TIME QUEST YES THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME ANOTHER JUST FOR A SECOND.

THE GENTLEMN ASKING THE QUESTION REGARDING LATER. WIDENING REGINA OR POINCIANA.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO FIND OUT IF THAT IS CAN HAPPEN IF IT'S SOMETHING IN THE WORKS

BECAUSE OF THE VERY SHARP SMALL STREET. >> THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE? SINGLE AND ALSO THAT THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK AND CAN YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED?

>> THANK YOU MAN-TO-MAN THANK YOU MISTER HERNANDEZ IN RESPONSE TO MISTER HERNANDEZ IS COINCIDENCES APPLICABLE FOR FOLLOW-UP. HOW LONG WILL CONSTRUCTION TO A QUESTION MARK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WHICH IS ANOTHER 3 TO 4 MONTHS THAT WE START CONSTRUCTION. HAT WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

EVERYTHING START TO FINISH IS WHAT WE ARE DISPUTING FOR THAT PROCESS.

NUMBER TWO. RESIDENTIAL ING IT'S NOT IN THE GAME PLAN.

WE WILL BUILD AND MANAGE HER OWN OWN PROPERTIES. THE PLAN IS TO RENT THESE OUT

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AND TO KEEP THEM TO MANAGE THEM AND HOLD THEM TO BE A MEMBER IN FORT PIERCE FOR A WHILE SO THERE'S NO INTEREST IN CONVERTING IN THE FUTURE AS I STAND HERE TONIGHT THE WIDENING OF POINCIANA DRIVE DOES NOT SHOW ANY WIDENING OR IT AFFECTING POINTS IN THE DRIVE.

THERE'S A 40 FOOT TRUCK FROM THERE SHOULD THE COUNTY IN THE FUTURE WANT TO EXPAND THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE. >> BUT YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON THAT.

>> WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE THAT 40 FEET IS ACTUALLY ON MY CLIENTS PROPERTY AND WE DESIGNATED THAT ON THE SITE PLAN SHOULD THE COUNTY NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.

>> BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE. >> IS CORRECT NO MA'AM.

>>. >> IT IS NOW BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR OUR DISCUSSION

AND DECISION. >> I LIKE TO WELCOME THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO FORT PIERCE I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT SO OFTEN. SECONDLY IS AS I'VE BROUGHT UP COUNTLESS TIMES THE PLANNING D THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY AND NEED IN THE CITY OF FORT PEERS. WE'VE APPROVED MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE WEST OF THE CITY THAT COMPANIES WILL RELOCATE INTO AND THEY NEED WORKERS.

TO GET WORKERS WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING WHEN I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE TEAM THE QUESTION CAME UP FOR MARKET ETC. AND I WILL SUGGEST THAT THIS PROJECT IS SORELY NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THE GROUND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO COMPLEMENT WHAT WE HAVE GOING

ON FROM THE INDUSTRIAL SEGMENT, WAS FROM SEGMENT OF THE CITY. >> I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THAT

WAS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY OF FIRST. >> LATER ON IN OUR AGENDA WE WILL HEAR FROM MORE IN THE FUTURE AND WITH OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE THE STATE SPACE BEING BUILT AND THE PROMISE OF HIGH TEENS AND GOING INTO THE HIGHER 20S WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN. MY INITIAL CONCERN WAS THE TRAFFIC.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME WITH DEVELOPERS WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC. IT IS THE DEVELOPER'S ABILITY TO REALIZE THAT INPUT AND SIDEWALKS THAT WILL ALLOW THESE FAMILIES TO WALK THESE KIDS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE THAT IT WAS CONSIDERED COVERED AND ALSO THE ABILITY FOR THAT SCHOOL BUS TO PULL OFF OF THE ROAD, COME IN AND PICK UP KIDS AND COME BACK OUT RV POINTS FOR ME.

THIS IS A VERY FAVORABLE PRODUCT FOR THE CITY FORT PIERCE TO PROVIDE SOME

MUCH-NEEDED HOUSING FOR WHAT WE EXPECT TO COME. >> ANYBODY READY TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> MO TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS.

>> A SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION THE SECOND.

CALL THE ROPE PLEASE.

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 22-041 - Review and approval of a Future Land Use Map Amendment by owners 135058, 136681 and 11765663 Canada, Inc and applicant Rebecca Grohall of MBV Engineering to change the future land use from General Commercial, GC to Medium Density Residential, RM, at approximately 3000 Virginia Avenue Fort Pierce, FL 34947. Parcel IDs: 2419-111-0002-000-7 & 2419-113-0001-000-6 . FIRST READING]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM G WHICH IS A LEGISLATIVE HEARING FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 22 ? 041. AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 3000 VIRGINIA AVENUE GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MUSEUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RM PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEAL OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> GOOD EVENING MAN-TO-MAN COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE USING AMUSEMENT AMENDMENT FOR THE PROJECT WITH NAMED ALLEGRA FORT PIERCE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HARTMAN ROAD AND OKEECHOBEE ROAD.

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IT IS APPROXIMATELY 32.93 ACRES. THE EXISTS FORT PIERCE FUTURE LAND USE AS GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL. IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. BEFORE YOU IS THE FUTURE LAND USE COMPARISON FOR THE EXISTING GENERAL COMMERCIAL MAXIMUM 15 UNITS. THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ACTUALLY REDUCES WE ALLOW DENSITY TO 12 AND IT IS A DECREASE OF 98 UNITS IN A DECREASE IN THE NOVEL SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH THE CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT CHANGES FOR THE TWO PARCELS FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE SAFETY

CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> IF YOU GO TO THE MAP IF YOU DON'T MIND. JUST LOOKING AT THE DISTRICTS AND THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE HERE. MOVING FROM COMMERCIAL APPLICATION TO A LESSER. I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE CHARTS HE SUPPLIED TO US IN OUR PACKET WITH THIS ONE HERE. LESS DENSITY IS ACTUALLY PROPOSED.

>> ONLY TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE ORGANIZATION THAT BRINGS WITH IT AN ENTITLEMENT.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AS THE EXISTING NOISE OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALONG THE DENSITY OF 15 AND WITH THAT YOU CAN BUILD RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. YOU ARE DOWNGRADING THE ALLOWANCE ENTITLEMENTS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS WITH BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND YOU'RE ALSO REDUCING OUT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES OUT OF THE PROPERTY.

>> THIS IS THAT THEY CAN FOREVER BUT PROBABLY. IT'S CONSISTENT BASED ON YOUR TESTIMONY. THERE WAS AN ENCLAVE THERE OF THE COUNTY IN THE FUTURE LAND USE OF EXISTING TO TRANSITIONAL AS HE POINTED OUT TOMORROW RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND INTEGRATED HOPEFULLY THIS ENCLAVE INTO THE CITY THAT WILL BE A FURTHER TRANSITION INTO RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S THE WAY I SEE THE

PLANNING WORKING IN THIS LOCATION. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD AT THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION FOR 3000 VIRGINIA AVENUE.

I CAN WRAP MY NAME AROUND NOT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE IN A 4000 OR FIVE.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT. WE HAVE SOME ISSUES NOT SPECIFICALLY TO THE CITY FORT PIERCE BUT ALSO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. I THINK IT'S LISTED AS 3000.

THAT DOESN'T MATCH WITH ACCORDANCE. IT CORRESPONDS WITH NORTH-SOUTH

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STREET. I JUST HAD TO MAKE THE COMMENT BECAUSE I KNEW YOU'RE GETTING YOUR DATA. THAT WHOLE QUARTER SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT ARE DEVELOPING WILL STILL ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL

MEDIUM DENSITY? >> I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL.

>> OKAY. >> THE APPLICANT IS PUSHING THE OWNER OF THIS LAND.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STUFF? >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

FOR THE RECORD EMILY DOBBINS WITH THE LAW FIRM HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

RESENTING THE APPLICANT THE APPLICANT IS A BROWNSTONE GROUP.

THEY ARE A BUILDER AND OPERATOR OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST.

IT IS A ZONING CHANGE AT THIS POINT BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS.

THE PROPERTY AS YOU SEE IS COMPRISED OF TWO TAX PARTIALS. IN OCTOBER WE CAME BEFORE YOU FOR THE APPROVAL AND ANNEXATION OF THE NORTH PARCEL AND TO THE CITY.

IN ANNEXATION WAS APPROVED WITH THE LAND-USE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE.

THE APPLICANT IS HELD TO COMMUNITY ON THE PROJECT. ONE IN SEPTEMBER WHEN THEY SENT OUT NOTICES TO RESIDENTS WITHIN 500 FEET. THERE ARE TWO MAIN CONCERNS RAISED THE RESIDENCE. SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS WERE RAISED AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING. MOSTLY THOSE THAT WE ARE DOING WITH TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE.

AS YOU KNOW THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS A PART OF THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS. THE APPLICANT WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND BUILD A GOOD PROJECT. WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS AS A PART OF THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS. THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION FOR THE SITE PLAN LAST WEEK SO THAT WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY COMING BEFORE YOU BEFORE TOO LONG IN THE NEW YEAR. WE FEEL THAT THIS PROJECT IS FIT FOR THIS LOCATION THE PLANNING BOARD ANIMUS THEY APPROVED IT.

THIS IS AS HE DISCUSSED ESSENTIALLY A DOWN ZONING GOING FROM A MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE. WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL MAKE FOR A GOOD TRANSITION FROM THE HEAVILY TRAVELED COMMERCIAL CORE DOOR ALONG OKEECHOBEE TOWARDS THE SOUTH RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE WHEN THE SITE PLANNING COMES BEFORE YOU THAT IT IS BEING DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND.

THEY ASSIST IN THAT SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. WITH THAT WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE TONIGHT SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

I JUST LIKE TO RESERVE SOME TIME AT THE END TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS.

>> WE HAVE A QUASIJUDICIAL. >> CORRECT. >> ONLY MORE OF A CHANCE TO

EXCHANGE INFORMATION FOR YOU TO GIVE INFORMATION. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE

CHAMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS PROJECT? >> IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR ME

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PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS SANDRA NOVEMBER 26, 2005 LACEY HAMMOCK LANE.

SARAH, YOU MENTIONED TRAFFIC. IN THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT. 360 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING MOST LIKELY WITH TWO CARS PER APARTMENT. WE'RE TALKING 720 CARS COMING OUT ON 41ST STREET. THAT'S NOT A ROAD. THAT IS LIKE PARKING DRIVEWAY EXTENDED. IT IS NOT THE ROAD. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT. YOU HAVE THE EXIT FOR THE 360 APARTMENT BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE FELT ABOUT 30 FEET FROM VIRGINIA AVENUE. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE CREATED THERE? SECONDLY, WE FLOODED.

WE FLOODED REALLY BAD. HE PUT A PARKING LOT THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE 700 CARS ON THAT LAND WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT WATER IS GOING TO GO? RIGHT INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT.

YOU HAVE A 5 MILE CREEK THAT FILLS UP AND COMES TOWARDS THE BACK.

WHAT ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES COMING DOWN A FLOODED ROAD? YOU CAN'T DRIVE DOWN IT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BOAT. YOU ARE A PLANNING COMMISSION. PLAN AHEAD ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S DONE. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU LOOK AHEAD, NOT AT THE MOMENT. LOOK AHEAD PLEASE. WE HAVE HAD HOUSES IN THEIR

FLOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PLEASE LOOK AND THINK AHEAD.

>> GOOD EVENING AND PAT MULVEY I LIVE AT 607. I PROVIDED COPIES OF THIS.

>> YOU MAY GIVE IT TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS WHO IS AT ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.

>> I THINK I HAVE IT ALREADY. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.

>> LAZY HAMMOCK IS A DEAD END. APARTMENT ROAD IS A DEAD-END. 360 UNITS WERE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAYS. IT'S ACTUALLY HUNDRED AND 73 FEET FROM WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THEM TO THE ENTRANCE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. IN THE YEAR 2019 THROUGH 2015 THERE WERE 11 ACCIDENTS JUST OUT IN THE INTERSECTION OF HARTMAN AND 34 STREET AND VIRGINIA WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION FOR CLOSE TO OKEECHOBEE.

IT'S A HIGH ACCENT RATE WITH TRAFFIC COMING ONTO THE CURB ON STATE ROAD 70 EASTBOUND.

WE CAN'T SEE THEM COMING WHEN WE PULL OUT. THE CRIME ISSUE IS ANOTHER ISSUE. IF WE HAD THOSE APARTMENTS IN THE DEAD-END AREAS WE HAVE KIDS BACK THERE DRINKING BEER. WE DON'T NEED THAT AGGRAVATION. IT FLOODS WHEN IT RAINS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A STORM. F YOU LOOK AT THE BACK IT'S A LITTLE RED TABLET FLOODS.

IT FLOODS IN THE FRONT AND IT FLOODS IN THE BACK. OUR HOUSE IS ON HIGH GROUND SO WE'RE LUCKY. IT'S JUST NOT IN THEIR LOCATION.

WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WE SUPPORT IN $1800 PER MONTH RENTAL APARTMENT COMPLEX IN FORT PIERCE. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF

MONEY HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS

THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS?

>> WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAINAGE RIGHT NOW IT IS A VACANT PROPERTY.

IT JUST DRAINS THE WAY NATURE HAS IT DRAINED. IT RUNS WHEREVER IT RUNS.

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AS YOU KNOW IS A PART OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A DESIGN FOR SOMEONE OR SYSTEM. IT'S WHERE THE PONDS WILL BE HELD IN PHOSPHORUS AND NITROGEN FILTERED OUT. ADDITIONALLY THERE WILL BE A DRIED DETENTION POND THAT CAN HOLD ADDITIONAL STORM WATER. ULTIMATELY THE SITE WILL BE DESIGNED TO HOLD THAT WATER DEFILES MILD CREEK. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE ON LAZY HAMMOCK LANE BUT CERTAINLY IT WOULD NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. ANYONE THAT WOULD BE IN A BETTER SITUATION IN TERMS OF CAUSING FLOODING. WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE THIS IS A DOWN ZONING. YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY IS A PART OF THE APPLICATION.

WE EVER TRAFFIC ENGINEER SUSAN MARK LOOKING AT HER TRAFFIC REPORT.

SHE COMPARED RETAIL WHICH WOULD CURRENTLY BE ALLOWED ON THE SITE VERSUS 360 UNITS.

IF YOU GO FROM MEDICAL TO 360 UNITS IS A DECREASE OF 40,000 DAILY TRIPS.

I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER ON THE SITE AND BUILD OFFICES ON THE SAME.

THAT'S A PIRATE APPROVAL. THEY JUST COME IN FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL ON THAT WILL BE BUILT AND PUT MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD THAN WHAT THIS IS PROPOSING.

THROUGH THE STAGE TRAFFIC AND THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH AS A PART OF THAT ANALYSIS RIGHT NOW

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOWN ZONING WITH A LAND-USE TO LESS. >> ARE WE ABLE TO ASK THIS

QUESTION? >> YES GO AHEAD. WE WILL HAVE A QUASIJUDICIAL ON

THE SAME PROPERTY SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH. >> SHOULD I HOLD MY QUESTIONS?

>> I IMAGINE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OVERLAP SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ALLOW THE LOWLY WAY.

>> I'M NOT QUITE SURE THE PROCESS. >> WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE

HEARING SO WE WILL BE REPEATING A LOT BUT GO AHEAD. >> MY CONCERN IS I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANALYSIS AND ITS IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS TO SUGGEST WE GO FROM THIS LEVEL TO THIS LEVEL AND I CAN DO JUST THAT. WHAT IS PROPOSED TRAFFIC COUNT COMING OUT OF THIS PROPOSAL?

>> OF THIS GETS TOO COMPLICATED PERHAPS WE MIGHT WAIT FOR THE QUASIJUDICIAL.

>> IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ON THE NEXT ONE.

>> IT IN A FIRE SO FOR THE RECORD. >> AND WITH DIRECT ENGINEERING FOR THE RECORD. WE HAVE HERE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL 360 IS THE DAILY

TRIPS, OF 1575. >> IS 400 UNITS. >> WOULD YOU DO A LITTLE BIT MORE STUNNING, BEFORE YOU SAY THAT FOR FINAL? THE NEXT HEARING YOU WILL BE

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UNDER OATH SO IT BETTER BE RIGHT. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT SO WE'RE NOT DOING THE ZONING MAP UNLESS YOU HEAR IT IN THE NEXT

APPLICATION. >> AND I WOULD JUST MAKE MY COMMENT.

>> I'M QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC EXITING ONTO 41ST. I'VE TOURED THAT AREA ON THE ROADWAY ITSELF AND I BELIEVE IT'S INCAPABLE OF HANDLING THE CAPACITY AND I UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS ARE THERE INDICATING IN THE REPORT BUT I'M IN A SUGGEST A PLANNING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVE. THIS WILL BE PROBLEMATIC AND I'D RATHER GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS NOW VERSUS COMING IN FOR THE SITE PLAN AND REALLY GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS AT THAT POINT.IF WE CAN INTERCEPT IT I THINK WE'RE DOING OURSELVES A MAJOR FAVOR BY DOING SO. I HAVE SOME SERIOUS RESERVATIONS AND I THINK THAT NUMBER MAY BE MISSING THE DIGIT.

>> ARE JUST LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND-USE I WANT TO IN GENERAL BE VERY GENERIC IN TERMS OF WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY. IT'S THE LAST INTENSITY. AS ALWAYS I THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN BEING A RESIDENT AND BEING PART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOREVER THERE IS A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY HERE IF THERE ARE THE APPLICANTS.

IN THIS CASE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AN APPLICATION COMING TO US THAT IS REDUCING THE NUMBERS. WE HEARD IT STRAIGHT FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME TRAFFIC COUNTS WHICH WILL HAVE AN A SITE PLAN.

COMMISSIONER YOU ARE RIGHT. WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. >> I AGREE.

DRAINAGE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR THE BUFFERING ZONE BETWEEN FIVE MILL CREEK ONE OF OUR COLLECTORS OWNED BY THE NORTH ST. LUCIE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.

THERE ARE PARTNERS IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THEY TAKE A HOLD OF THAT AND CREATE SOME LIMITATIONS JUST FROM ENGINEERING OF THE FOLKS THAT WILL PRESENT THIS APPLICATION. LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND-USE. I WAS THOUGHT IT WAS CAN BE COMMERCIAL TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AND I'M SURPRISED IT'S CHANGING THAT'S WHERE I STAND

ON THE CHANGE IN LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION TODAY. >> MAN-TO-MAN CITIES COMMISSION I DID HEAR COMMISSIONER PATRICK TEST THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES. I WOULD DISSUADE THAT. WE HAD PROFESSIONALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WORK FOR THE APPLICANT. THEY SHOULD WORK WITH THE REGULATORY AGENCIES WHERE THAT IS AT THE OT FOR STATE ROUTE 70 OR WHETHER THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR 44TH STREET OR WHATEVER THE ROOT IS CALLED. OING TO THE SOUTH FROM VIRGINIA AVENUE. THE PLANNING SESSION NOT BE INVOLVED IN THAT.

THE PLANNING STAFF CAN LOOK AT IT AND THEY CAN WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE HAD PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THEY ARE TASKED WITH COMING UP WITH THE BEST SESSION OF THOSE REGULATORY AGENCIES.

>> I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION ON THAT. >> WE ARE BACK TO DISCUSSION OF WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO PROVE THIS OR NOT. OR I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

> MEDICARE AND RECENTLY APPROVED ORDINANCE 22 ? 041TO CHANGE THE FUTURE -USE MAP.

>> IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

FROM OUR ERSPECTIVE AND THE AUDIENCE HAS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN REALLY SIMPLE TERMS THAT WHAT JUST TRANSPIRED BY NO MEANS MOVES AND FORWARD IT JUST CHANGE THE ZONING OF THE LAND. IT WENT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL NOW TO A LESSER DESIGNATION FOR DENSITY AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT JUST HAPPENED AT THAT POINT. THE CONCERNS THAT WERE HEARD WERE WELL HEARD AND VALIDATED AND NOTED. IS ANYTHING THAT WILL BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BE CONSIDERED AND LOOKED AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME BUT THAT IT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. THE OWNERS OF THE LAND WANTED TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION FROM

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GENERAL COMMISSION TO MEETING THE DENSITY AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC THAT IS WATCHING THIS IN HEARING THIS AND HEAR IT AND I

UNDERSTAND THAT. >> SOMETIMES THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART.

[h. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance 22-042 - Review and approval of a Zoning Map Amendment by owners 135058, 136681 and 11765663 Canada, Inc and applicant Rebecca Grohall of MBV Engineering to change the zoning from General Commercial, C-3, to Medium Density Residential, R-4, at approximately 3000 Virginia Avenue Fort Pierce, FL 34947. Parcel IDs: 2419-111-0002-000-7 & 2419-113-0001-000-6. FIRST READING]

>> IS VERY LITTLE THAT WE CAN STOP IN THE PROCESS. THIS IS JUST A CHANGE OF A

DESIGNATION AND REDUCE THE DENSITY.> EXACTLY. >> WE WILL MOVE ON.

>> NEXT WE HAVE A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING ON ORDINANCE 22 ? 042.

AND ORDINANCE BY THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA REZONING THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 3000 VIRGINIA AVENUE FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL C ? THREE TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL R ? FOUR AND PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND APPEAL OF ORDINANCE REQUIRED PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> HEAVY ADVERTISING RECORDINGS END? >> THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN

MET FOR THIS ITEM. >> WILL YOU ASK FOR X PARTAKE COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE?

>> YES MA'AM. >>.

>> YES I'VE SPOKEN WITH RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO RECEIVED A PACKET OF

INFORMATION FROM RESIDENTS T THE APPLICATIONS TONIGHT. >> I HAVE RECEIVED A PACKET OF

INFORMATION BUT I JUST GOT IT TODAY SO HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT. >> I HAVE TO MAKE A REVISION I HAVE SPOKEN WITH RESIDENTS. NOT THE APPLICANT BUT WITH RESIDENTS.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR THE WITNESSES? >> WHAT ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLACED IN AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE

TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> YES.

>> THINK YOU. >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FUTURE LAND-USE TO ZONING IS THAT

CORRECT? >> PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING MAN-TO-MAN COMMISSIONERS BEFORE YOU HAVE A REZONING FOR THE PROPOSAL TITLED ALLEGRA AT FORT PIERCE.

THE ROSE REZONING REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM C-3 TO R-4 MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 32.9 ACRES AND IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD HARTMAN/ FARK 44TH STREET. THE EXISTING CITY OF FORT PIERCE ZONING OUT THIS IS C-3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AS YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ZONING WHICH SURROUNDS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND EAST CONSISTS OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. MEN EMOTIONALLY MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> A SECOND X.

[i. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance 22-043 - Review and approval of a Zoning Map Amendment by owners, Red Hawk Rebar, LLC and the representative, Culpepper & Terpening, Inc. for a Major Amendment to an approved Planned Development by reducing the proposed building footprint from 40,000 square feet to 32,000 square feet, and site improvement changes, at 4280 Bandy Boulevard, Fort Pierce, FL 34981. Parcel ID: 2431-505-0008-000-6 FIRST READING]

QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING ON I ORDINANCE 22 ? 043.ND ORDINANCE BY THE CITY

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COMMISSION AMENDING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 4280 HOLCOMB BOULEVARD. IT PROVIDES FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

. >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING MAN-TO-MAN COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE A MAJOR AMENDMENTNT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT

LOCATED AT 4280 BANDY BOULEVARD. >> THIS IS A QUASIJU.

>> I APOLOGIZE.. >> HAVE WE MIGHT BE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS

QUESTION THE. >> WE HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS.

>> WILL YOU ASK ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. >>.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES. >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLACED IN AND RAISE YOUR HAND DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE

TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> KNOW YOU MAY PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING.

BEFORE YOU WE HAVE A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4288 BANDY BOULEVARD WHICH IS BY REBAR. THE SUBJECT ROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF BANDY BOULEVARD TO THE NORTHWEST AND SO THE DROUGHT IS APPROXIMATELY 3.565 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS. THE CURRENT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

THE PROPOSED 336 GROUNDCOVERS AND PROPOSED FOR THE SITE IS THE SIZE AND IRRIGATION WILL BE INSTALLED. THE PLANNING BOARD AT A NOVEMBER 14, 2022 MEETING UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH ONE CONDITION A COMPLETION CERTIFICATION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR SERVICES SUCH AS THE TYPES OF FINAL VISIT TO THE IS IN THE CHANGES APPROVAL WILL CHANGE THE DISAPPROVAL OF THOSE

[02:40:08]

MAJOR AMENDMENT. >> QUESTION IS THAT? HAS IT PROVIDED A PLAN AND OFTEN IMPROVEMENT? THE FOCUS. THAT SHOULD QUIT.

I WILL DO FOR THE THIS IS IMMEDIATELY. >> FOR SAVING.

THIS IS THE RECORD MEETING WITH DENNIS. REPRESENTING REBAR.

THIS MAY SIMPLY BE DESCRIBED AS A RESURRECTION PROJECT. WE RECEIVED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL THIS PROJECT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE NEVER STARTED. SAY THE SAME BUT THE SITE PLAN EXPIRED.

I KNOW THAT CARE TO RE-ENERGIZE THE SITE PLAN WITH HER LIFE THAT WE HAVE IF I CAN QUICKLY SUNRISE. SURE ACCESS. PICTURE? WHEN THE DAY WAS ORIGINALLY SET. THIS IS A COMMON DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY.

THEY SPLIT OFF INTO THAT. THE TIME IS GOING ON THIS BUT THE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WE WORK TO THE SHARES AS PART OF THE WORLD. THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD.

IT IS MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY AND IT'S ONE OF THE RARE INSTANCES ON TO THE NEXT

QUESTIONS OF MISTER. >> ANYONE OFF THE MEETING RECENTLY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE FORWARD THE COMMERCIAL EFFORT ANYTHING BUT FRIENDS WERE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING NEXT COMMISSION IS THE ONE DISCUSSION OF PROMOTION? WHAT WILL MAKE A MOTION BEFORE I DO THAT I HAVE CALLED THIS WHEN IS THE LAST ONE IS CORRECT THE RECORD THAT WAS 042

[j. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 22-044 - Review and approval of a Future Land Use Amendment by owners, Kiva Development, LLC, and representative, Matthew H. Scott, Esq. of Dunay, Miskel, & Blackman, LLP, to change the future land use from General Commercial, GC, to Medium Density Residential, RM, at or near 3037 S Jenkins Road Fort Pierce, FL 34981. Parcel ID: 2325-111-0001-000-2. FIRST READING ]

SERVICES TO THE APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND IS THE.

GENERAL COMMERCIAL REPORT. MEDIUM DENSITY IS THE FUTURE LAND-USE METHOD AND THE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 37 S. JENKINS ROAD. THIS IS THE TRANSITION TO

[02:46:31]

SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE QUESTION THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC PHEARINGS ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR MY NAME IS MATTHEW SCOTT ON THE ZONING RETURNING WITH AN ADDRESS OF 14 SOUTHEAST SOUTH STREET IN BOCA N. THIS DOES HAVE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION BEFORE AND IT SWITCHED TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SARAH UNDEVELOPED FOR MANY YEARS AND THE CLIENTS PROFICIENCY PROPERTIES. SELECT THE FIRST VISITATION IS LOOKING TO PAVE THE WAY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. PRESENTING A SITE PLAN TONIGHT A LOT OF IT IS FOR THE SITE FOR THIS LAND-USE PLAN AMENDMENT BE APPROVED AND THE ZONING BE APPROVED.HE GOAL HERE IS TO DEVELOP HUNDRED AND 44 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT MY CLIENT WOULD MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF AND MAINTAIN. THOSE WOULD BE FOR RENT.

THE IDEA BEING THAT IF THERE ARE YOUNG FAMILIES TO GET OUT OF THE APARTMENT LIVING BUT ONE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THIS WOULD BE A PLACE TO THIS IS THAT THIS MODEL THERAPIST.

THERE REALLY THAT IT FULLY WORKED OUT WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE IT FOR YOU TONIGHT.

A LOT OF TIMES HONESTLY WE DO FOR THREE AT ONCE. IT'S NOT READY YET WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL WE WILL HOPEFULLY COME BACK NEXT YEAR WITH THAT SITE PLAN. SIMILAR TO THE PRESENTATION LIKE A BROKEN RECORD AT THE DRASTIC REDUCTION OF VEHICLE TRIPS OVER WHAT IS ALLOWED. WE SURE THAT WE WILL PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL BUFFERING, FENCING TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY. WE GOT SOME OF THEIR FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS IN THE MEETING WAS VERY POSITIVE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> WE'RE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT WITHIN THE 50% MARGIN.

I JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT BECAUSE I CAME UP IN PRIOR DISCUSSIONS.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MY NAME IS ROBERTO CRUZ. DON'T BE NERVOUS EDDIE CRUZ. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR QUITE A

[02:50:07]

WHILE. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME.

THE REASON I'M HERE IS WE ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE LARGER PROPERTY SOUTH OF WHERE YOUR POINTER IS. THIS IS ACTUALLY A CHURCH. WE DID RESULT IN HAND AND A CITIZEN OF A FETUS PHYSICAL IS CALLED RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

ONLY CONCERN IS THIS. WE HAVE THREE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH ONE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.

WE HAVE IF SHE WAS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN TO CHURCH.AFTER SUNDAY SCHOOL THEY STEP OUT AND PLAY AND ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WE THAT WAS THAT THE CHILDREN MAKE NOISE. THEY RUN, DISCRIMINATING NOISE. THIS WAS IN THE EARLY MORNING IT WAS STILL WHICH IS BETWEEN 1130 PHILOSOPHY. TEST IS GIVEN TO THE PERSON FROM ANOTHER AND NOW THIS NEIGHBOR OF THREAT BUT NO LONGER.

SHE WAS ONE OVER TO OUR CONSENSUS. NOW THAT I LEARNED A LESSON TO ANOTHER FOR THE FAIR WILL RENT I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WANT TO DO THIS ON THE.

THEY ALSO SCREAMED A LOT. A LOT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THERE WILL BE A FORM FOR THEM TO PUT UP A WALL. I'VE NEVER MET THE BOARD.

THE. THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I'VE SEEN THIS IN HER.

THIS IS THE MAIN CONCERN MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE ANACHRONISM. ON THE WEEKENDS THEIR PRIVACY.

THEY WANT SILENCE MAYBE. AND I KNOW THAT IS THEN HIS SENSES THIS IS TO I'M WORRIED

[k. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance 22-045 - Review and approval of a Zoning Map Amendment by owners, Kiva Development, LLC, and representative, Matthew H. Scott, Esq. of Dunay, Miskel, & Blackman, LLP, to change the zoning from General Commercial, C-3, to Medium Density Residential, R-4, at or near 3037 S Jenkins Road Fort Pierce, FL 34981. Parcel ID: 2325-111-0001-000-2. FIRST READING]

THAT THE FUTURE IF YOU IN THE RENTALS THERE. YOU VERY MUCH SIR.

>> YOU MIGHT WANT TO STICK AROUND FOR THE NEXT 12. ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBER ONE ADDRESSES? WE WILL COME BACK HERE AND I'LL ENTERTAIN YOU QUICKLY MOVE THAT WE APPEAR ORDINANCE 20 ? 0446 SECOND ".

A QUOTE FOR ADDITIONAL HEARING FOR ORDINANCE 22 ? 045 AND ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 3037 S. JENKINS ROAD FROM C-3 -3 TO.

[02:55:06]

RESIDENTIAL PROVIDING ABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING WITH THE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE QUICK ACCESS TO PATIENT WHAT WOULD

YOU LIKE THIS WERE IN THE WITNESSES. >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON

THIS ITEM PLEASE SEND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >> DO WANT TO THINK AGAIN IS?

>> IF YOU'D LIKE TO. >> YOU SWEAR OUR FIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE

TRUTH PLEASE PROCEED. >> EVENING MAYOR THIS APPLICATION IS A ZONING OUT AS IT SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 27.89 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS. THIS IS A ZONING AS YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CERTIFIED RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 120 125 ? 223 AND FIVE ? 3166 IS AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH OR GENERAL WELFARE. PLANNING WILL END THE 14TH 2024 TO RECOMMEND.

ONE THING THAT IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS OF THE CITY COMMISSION ARE APPROVAL OF THE PRESENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT WITH NO CHANGES.

APPROVAL WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL. THINK.

>> QUESTIONS AND STUFF? >> I THINK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE YOU ARE SWORN I SAW SO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OR TO JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS?

>> AGAIN MADAME MAYOR FOR THE RECORD I JUST HAVE TWO COMMENTS.

FIRST, AND AS OF YET I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBOR HERE.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AT THE FIRST TIME IN MY CAREER THAT THE NEIGHBOR IS RAISING CONCERNS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A WONDERFUL USUALLY I'M THE ONE TELLING IT WHAT IT COULD BE OKAY WITH THE EVERYDAY LIFE. I'M SURE MY SITE IS THIS A GOOD THING FOR THE THAT THIS IS EASILY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER ON THE SORT OF PROBLEM. THE SECOND COMING OF THE DELIVERY FOR CHILD SUPPORT THIS

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU. >> ANYTHING.> ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE PLEASE

COME FORWARD. >> MY NAME IS EDDIE CRUZ. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE ZERO I

WANTED THEM TO, SO THEY COULD LEARN QUICK THINKING THAT THE. >> IS TO APPRECIATE AND WANTING TO DISCUSS IT. DON'T DISAGREE WITH AND THEY WANTED TO.

[a. Submission of applications to serve on the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC).]

THEIR PROPERTY WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO. I WOULD APPRECIATE A WALL OR

[03:00:07]

SOMETHING. I GUESS IT'S UP TO THE REST OF THEM.

>> OUT ON THE ROAD TO. >> IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S IN THE WORKPLACE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

TONIGHT WE OFFICIATED. >> TO COME OVER FOR THE BARBECUE ON SUNDAY.

WE CAN BE BEST. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS?OKAY.

I'M CLOSING THE. >> IN PUBLIC AND I WANTED IN A DISCUSSION OF EMOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE ORDINANCE 22 ? 045. >> SECOND.

>> IS A MOTION IN THE SECOND CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PLANNING STAFF YOU HAVE THE HOLES SHOW.

[b. Resolution 22-R48 authorizing the execution of a Florida Job Growth Infrastructure Grant Agreement with the State of Florida Department of Economic Opportunity supporting Downtown Waterfront Corridor infrastructure improvements.]

YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. >> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO. >> AND THE AGENDA IS THE MISSION OF THE THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING 53. I INCLUDED FOR YOU THINK THERE ARE 20 APPLICATIONS INCLUDED THE SAMPLE BALLOT ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST SIX DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FILLED WITH BROKE UP ABOUT IT THAT WAY. THESE ARE THE FIRST DRAFT BECAUSE OF ONE CATEGORY THEY WILL GET ANOTHER SHOT IN THE SECOND ROUND. THE TWO SERIES OF VOTES TO.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PUT A TOTAL ON THE COMMITTEE. >> THE TOTAL NINE VERY HAPPY WITH THIS MUCH INTEREST. THE COMMISSION IS TO THE FOLKS THAT YOUR EVIDENCE WITH.O

[c. Resolution 22-R49 Supporting the 2023 Legislative Priorities of the Florida League of Cities]

THE QUESTION WE WANT RESOLUTION 22 ? OUR 40 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A FLORIDA DROP GROWTH INFRASTRUCTURES ARE AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY PORTING THE FINDINGS OF LIVING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS. >> TO SEE THE PLACE IS KNOWN AUGUST 30 WE RECEIVED A

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

BEAUTIFUL CHECK FROM GOVERNOR THE. THIS IS MARCH 1, 2020 39 DOES NOT PERMIT WE ARE ANTICIPATING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 405 CREATED WITHIN 10.

IF YOU HAVE SOME TIME TO CREATE THESE JOBS TO THE AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE BROUGHT O THE CITY

STAFF TO PATIENT EXECUTED FOR SURE THAT YOU. >> PRELAUNCH PROCESS AND THE

END IS WORKING WITH THE WITH DAILY CONCLUSIONS OF YOU HAVE. >> I.

[03:05:08]

>> I MOVED APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 22 ? OUR 48. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>>.

OUR 49. RESOLUTION OF THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE FLORIDA SUPPORTING 2023 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES PROVIDING FOR

AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR THE PURPOSES. >> THIS BROUGHT FOR ME BECAUSE IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ADVOCATE ON THESE PARTICULAR I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR

USSION. >> I MAKE A MOTIONTHAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 22 ? OUR >>

IS HER SECOND. >> SECOND THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

THANK K YOU. YOUR CHILDREN WERE VERY WELL BEHAVED AND VERY.