Jan 10, 2023 FPRA Regular Meeting Agenda

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

[a. FPRA Resolution No. 23-01 appointing Kyle Kauffmann as Commissioner Broderick's appointee to the CRA Advisory Committee.]

[b. Peacock Art District Mural Program Update]

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LASTLY, WE WANT TO ENHANCE THE CULTURAL X EXPERIENCE. THIS

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>> ONE THING I LEARNED IN PUBLI SERVICE IS YOU NEVER WANT TO RE-CREATE THE WHEEL. THANKFULLY SO MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE PUT ON SIX FULL PROGRAMS OF THEIR OWN AND WE DID SOME RESEARCH AS TO INSPIRATION AS T WHAT WE COULD CULTIVATE FOR OUR OWN AND YOU SEE THEM LISTED HER ARE MY SLIDES. THERE IS A DISTRICT KNOWN AS THE FLAGLER ARTS TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE THE CITY OF MIAMI. YOU HAVE THE CIT OF HOLLYWOOD CRA WITH THE NERO PROGRAM. THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS NERO PROGRAM AND DON'T WALK DOW LIKE WATER. NEXT IS THE STRATEG WE ARE EMBARKING ON AS WE LOOK TO BEGIN OUR ACTIVITIES. OUR STRATEGY IS A TWO-FACED APPROACH. WITH THAT WE ARE HOPING TO ONE GET ACTIVITIES STARTED WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A TARGETED CORRIDOR WHICH IS THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR. THE REASON WHY IS WE WANT TO ASSURE EFFECTIVENESS EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST IMPACT DURING THE FIRST IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM. THE AREA SPECIFICALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT AN ORANGE AVENUE IS FROM U.S. ONE TO 10TH STREET AND AVENUE A TWO ATLANTIC AVENUE. NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. FOLLOWING THE SLIDE YOU WILL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I GET THERE.

NONETHELESS, THIS AREA WAS SELECTED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS WHICH I THINK IT MAKES IT PRIME FOR A STARTING PROGRAM IN THAT AREA. ONE OF WHICH IS ITS VISIBILITY, THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC THAT TRAVELS THROUGH THERE AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THE ARTWORK IN THE AREA AND ITS WALK ABILITY THE ROADS ARE TYPICALLY A BIT SMALLER. THE NUMBER AND TYPES OF IN VAIL DEVELOPMENT IN BUSINESSES SUCH AS RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS NEARBY, IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING ARTWORK OR MURALS THAT DO EXIST IN AND AROUND THE CORRIDOR. NEXT IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA WE WILL BE ON THE OPENING APPLICATIONS TO PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT DESIGNATED SPACE. WE WILL MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT TO THE VARIOU BUSINESSES AND PROPERTIES AS WELL TO HOPEFULLY ENGAGE THE WE CAN HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

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>> BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT. I UNDERSTAND ORANGE AVENUE TO ATTEND BUT AVENUE A TWO ATLANTIC, AVENUE A ATLANTIC, UNLESS I AM NOT THINKING STRAIGHT AVENUE A GHOST EAST AN WEST. I THINK IT COMES RIGHT AFTER.

>> OKAY. OKAY. I HAVE TO LOOK A THE MAP. RIGHT. SO THIS IMAGE WILL CLARIFY THAT A BIT MORE. I DO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THE VERSIO YOU HAVE IN THE AGENDA IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. I HAVE TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AND I'M TRYIN TO GET THERE. THE ONES I HAVE DISPLAYED RIGHT NOW ON THE COMPUTER. SO TO WHAT I WAS SAYING. IN THIS IMAGE HERE YOU SEE THE BOUNDARY AND WHAT YOU SEE IN YELLOW IS THE TARGETED AREA IN WHICH YOU SEE THE PORTION OF ORANGE AVENUE WE ARE SPEAKING OF. LIKE I SAID FROM U.S. ONE EAST TO WEST TO TENTH IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH IS AVENU A AND ATLANTIC. JUST PROPERTIES ON THAT SPECIFIC TARGETED SPACE IN OUR SECOND PHASE WE ARE HOPING UPON THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO THE PAD AT LARGE WE KNOW THERE ARE PLACES THAT CAN BENEFIT BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT THROUGH A SUCCESSFUL RUN THROUGH THIS FIRST TRIAL WE WIL TAKE IT ON ON A SECOND BASE BASIS. IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE AND WHAT WE EXPECT TO GET TO TH FINISH LINE, THE FIRST IS OUR PRESENTATIONS TO YOU AND THE CR ADVISORY BOARD. THE CRA ADVISOR BOARD IS NOT ABLE TO MEET AND W WERE HOPING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE. UPON YOUR SUPPORT AND APPROVAL FOR THIS PLAN OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO HOPEFULLY OPEN UP THOSE PROPERTY OWNER APPLICATIONS WITHIN THAT AREA T GAIN THAT PARTICIPATION AND WE DO A CALL FOR ARTISTS IN TERMS OF DESIGNS THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED AND AFTERWARDS STAFF CAN DO A PRELIMINARY REVIEW. I AM JUST MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS IN KEEPING WITH THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO THE ADVISORY BOARDS TO MAKE RECOMMENDED SELECTIONS FOR YOU ALL TO REVIE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WIL MAKE THE FINAL DESIGN SELECTION AND WE ARE FILTERING THROUGH AS MANY DESIGN OPTIONS THERE ARE S WE CAN COME UP WITH THE FINAL MENU OF OPTIONS FOR EACH PROPERTY THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION BY. AND, THE REASON WHY, IN THE PAST THERE HAS BEEN DISCREPANCY HAVING PROPERTY OWNERS AGREE TO A DESIGN. THIS ALLOWS US TO TAKE IT ONTO THE FRONT AND BEFORE ANY ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE. SOON AFTER THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE AGREEMENT EXECUTED BETWEEN THE ARTISTS END UP WITH

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THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US. IT IS IN REGARDS WERE LITTLE PROPERTIES. PROPERTIES THAT PARTICIPATE MUST NOT HAVE ANY MAJOR CODE VIOLATIONS SUCH AS LANES OR ANY UNPAID OR OUTSTANDING TAXES DUE. SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO SHY AWAY FROM I THINK THE IMPRESSION THA WE ARE AWARDING UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. ANNA NEXT FOR MY CODE VIOLATIONS WE WILL GIVE AN EXCEPTION SIMPLY BECAUSE MINOR CODE VIOLATIONS ARE PROBABLY EASIER TO CURE PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE MURAL. WE WILL WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. LASTLY IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT PROPERTY OWNERS MUST MAINTAIN THE MURALS AFTER INSTALLATION SO THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPKEEP.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MINERALS TYPICALLY WILL TAKE EVERY THREE YEARS FOR A RE-CEILING OF THE ARTWORK SO THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATED TO THEM AS WELL. ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO IS JUST LEAD BY EXAMPLE . I THINK WE HAVE A VISION AND WE WANT THIS VISION TO BE EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY. AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN CAUSE IN EFFECT A DOMINO EFFECT. IN THE HOPE IS THAT THIS CATCHES FIRE. OTHER ILLNESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HOPEFULLY SEE WHAT IS GOING ON AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES. AND WE WILL BE READY TO HAVE A GUIDELINE SET FOR THEM ON A STEP-BY-STEP ON HOW THEY CAN GET A MURAL IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR US TO PROCEED WITH THIS PLAN AS I HAVE SHARED IT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK. QUESTIONS? MR. GAINES. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. GREAT IDEA. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ARTIST. ARE WE LOOKING TO PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS? ARE YOU LOOKING TO GIVE CHANCES TO ANY OF THE ART STUDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AT COLLEGE? I KNOW A COUPLE OF -- JUST THINKING I MET A YOUNG LADY SATURDAY AT MLK. SUMMIT. I'M THINKING ABOUT SHE IS JUST INCREDIBLE. I DON'T KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF GUIDELINE OR SOME TYPE OF LIMITATIONS. I WOULD LOVE TO, IF POSSIBLE, THAT WE OPEN US UP TO SOME LOCAL ARTISTS WE HAVE HERE ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE COLLEGE AND ANY OF THE HIGH SCHOOLERS WHO PASSED THE TEST FOR YOU GUYS. YOU WOULDN'T WANT ME TO PAINT ANYTHING. I COULD PAINT THE BUILDING BUT YOU WOULDN'T WANT ME TO DO IT. THE WORK THAT I SAW I'M JUST THINKING IT WOULD BE GREAT FROM THE AREA. I HOPE THAT WE ARE THINKING THAT WAY. WE INCLUDE SOME OF THE YOUTH JUST BECAUSE I LIKE THE THEME WHERE IT SAYS PAST,

PRESENT, AND FUTURE. WE CAN GET THAT VISION INTO THE CITY. >> WE CERTAINLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. ONE THING FOR MY EXPENSE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD TO IMPLEMENT A MURAL BEFORE. I HAVE DONE SO IN ANOTHER CITY. I THINK THERE IS MEANING IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ADVERTISE LOCAL OFFICE. SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE SAME FOR THEM AS IT IS FOR MORE ESTABLISHED ARTISTS. I KNOW IT IS HARD FOR THEM TO GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR. WHEN YOU DO DEAL WITH YOUR FIRST TIME GIG OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT LEAST WITH US TO GET THAT CHANCE. YES. IF IT IS A LOCAL COLLEGE, IF IT IS A HIGH SCHOOL, SO LONG AS THEY HAVE THE GUIDANCE AND EXPERTISE WITH THEM TO ENSURE IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT PRODUCT , WE ARE FINE WITH IT. IF I CAN GET THEIR INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO

REACH OUT. OKAY THANKS. >> I WILL SHOOT SOME PICTURES.

CALL. >> YES. IT IS A CALL FOR ARTISTS. IT WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. I HAVE TALKED WITH THE ST. LUCIE ALLIANCE. SHE HAS ACCESS TO 300 LOCAL ARTISTS. THERE ARE SOME OTHER PLATFORMS AS WELL THAT WE ARE

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LOOKING TO USE. >> COLLEGE IS A GOOD IDEA.

EXACTLY. VERY GOOD IDEA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK THAT IS GREAT. LOOKING AT LOCAL ARTISTS. YOU HAVE A CALL AND THEN YOU WILL JUST HAVE A REPERTOIRE OF ALL THESE ARTISTS . AND THEN YOU WILL THEN DECIDE WHO WILL EARN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAINT THE MURAL THAT IS THEN AGREED-UPON. AND THAT ALSO DID I HEAR ABOUT THE SELECTION PROCESS MEANING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CANVAS THIS AREA SHOWED US? SELECT OBVIOUSLY WALLS OR BUILDINGS ET CETERA THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IMPACT FOR A MURAL. AND OBVIOUSLY I GUESS AS A GET APPROVAL OF MAYBE THE BUILDING OWNER. OKAY. AND SO THE $40,000 THAT COMES INTO PLAY HERE, IS THAT FOR THE ARTIST OR IS THAT -- HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROCESS

IS. >> YEAH. THE $40,000 WILL COVER THE ENTIRETY ISN'T RELATED TO THE ARTWORK. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE PAYING THE ARTISTS TO DO THE ARTWORK. THAT'S IT. IF THEY NEED TO USE THAT -- YEAH. IT WILL COVER SUPPLIES, LABOR, EQUIPMENT COSTS. THEY TELL US WHAT THEIR QUOTE IS . AS LONG AS A WORSE AND IT IS REASONABLE WITHIN OUR BUDGET WE WILL PAY

FOR. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO. 40,000 SEEMS A LOT TO BUY PAINT AND GET ARTISTS. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARTIST CHART FOR MURALS.

>> YOU CAN BE REALLY SURPRISED.

>> I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING. I GUESS THE OTHERS STANDS ON THE SIDES OF THE WALL ET CETERA.

>> MORE EXPERIENCED ARTIST WILL CHARGE YOU PREMIUMS.

>> YES. OKAY. I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING NOW.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO SPUR MORE ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. FOR SOME REASON IT IS REALLY HASN'T MOVED FORWARD AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE. A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. ONE, LOGISTICALLY, IS THE CITY GOING TO DO OUTREACH TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS DIRECTLY BY MAIL OR SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE? A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE OUT-OF-TOWN OWNERS. THEY MAY NOT SEE LOCAL --

>> RIGHT. WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH STAFF BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE COMMUNITY PRETTY WELL. IT IS GOING TO BE A MULTIPLE WAYS. OBVIOUSLY WE WILL MAKE PHONE CALLS. WE'LL GO DOOR-TO-DOOR. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE TENANTS IN THESE PROPERTIES .

MAYBE THERE IS A CLOSER RELATIONSHIP THAT THE TENANTS MAY HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY ON BEHALF OF THE WRITTEN AFFIDAVIT FORM THAT WE WILL PROVIDE AS PART OF THE APPLICATION IF THEY CAN GET THEIR COMMITMENT. NONETHELESS WE ARE WORKING LOOKING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS. YOUR ASSISTANCE WILL BE APPRECIATED AS WELL. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF YOU MAY ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CONTACT WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE AN ORANGE AVENUE ASSOCIATION. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH WEIGHT BEFORE.

I THINK YOU'LL BE A GREAT CONTACT TO ASSIST. WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR VERY BEST. IF FOR WHATEVER REASON WE DON'T GET AS MUCH PARTICIPATION AS WE LIKE AND WE STILL HAVE DOLLARS WAITING TO BE USED, WE WILL LOOK TO OTHER AREAS AROUND. OUR

TARGET. >> IN A PARTICULAR MURAL IS GOING TO BE PUT ON THE BUILDING. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS SOME TYPE OF HOLE IN THAT PROCESS. IS THAT?

>> YEAH. THEIR APPROVAL ON THE MURAL SELECTION WILL COME AFTER IT HAS ALREADY BEEN VETTED THROUGH STAFF AND THROUGH THE CRA AND OBVIOUSLY HAVING YOUR INPUT AS WELL. THEY WILL HAVE PREAPPROVED LIST OF OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.

>> MAINTENANCE. THE MAINTENANCE OF THE MURAL MOVING FORWARD.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT? WE OWN A BUILDING IN THE AREA AND IT IS AN OLDER BUILDING AND WE ARE CONSISTENTLY DOING EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDING.

HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY WORK? THE ARTIST COMES IN AND INSTALLED A MURAL ORIGINALLY QUICK THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOW THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN IT IN A FADED

OVERTIME? >> RIGHT. THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPKEEP . THE OUTER CAPE IS REALLY JUST RESEALING THE MURAL. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ARTISTS USE UV PROTECTION PAINT TO AVOID THE FADING AND STAFF CAN BE BE ON A YEARLY BASIS JUST CHECK ON THESE PROPERTIES JUST MAKE SURE THE MURAL STILL LOOKS LIKE IT IS BEEN KEPT UP WITH. YEAH. IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO JUST KEEP IT LOOKING NICE. AS BEST AS I CAN. IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES, THEY CAN REACH BACK OUT TO US. IT WILL TRY TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO HELP THEM THERE. BUT THEY

WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR. >> MY LAST QUESTION IS, THE

ARTS ADVISORY BOARD -- >> YEAH. KATELYN, WHO I THINK IS A LIAISON WITH THAT COMMITTEE, IS THAT CORRECT? I CAN'T REMEMBER. IT IS. THANK YOU. SHE DID REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT INCORPORATING INPUT FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS ADVISOWAY IN FEED THEIR EBOLA RIGHT NOW I HAVEN'T YET SPECIFIED BECAUSE

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FINAL DECISION. >> IN SOME CAPACITY I'M SURE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED. THAT'S IT.

>> YES SIR. >> IT REAL QUICK. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T REPEAT WHAT I CONSIDER A MISTAKE THAT ACTUALLY VOTED FOR BEFORE. YOU GOT THE BOUNDARY THERE AND WE CALLED IT AVENUE A. IS AVENUE A ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD ALLOWED TO APPLY?

>> YES. >> OKAY. GOOD. I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LEFT OUT. WHEN WE CREATED THE PAD, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE SOUTH SIDE OF DELAWARE AVENUE.

>> YEAH. WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE. WE ARE.

>> EXCELLENT. I JUST WANT TO SEE SOME COMMUNICATION AS THAT

IS BEING MOVED FORWARD. >> YES. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A PLACE ON DELAWARE AVENUE THAT RELATE MODES THE ARTS AND LOCAL OURS. THAT'S COOL BEANS. AND I KNOW A LOT OF LOCAL ARTISTS AND THEY PROMOTE THEIR ART. THEY ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

DELAWARE. >> YES THEY ARE. I HEAR ABOUT

IT CONSISTENTLY. >> I BET YOU DO.

>> SO, DO YOU THINK -- YOU KNOW HOW MANY WOULD BE OUT TO DO APPROXIMATELY? IS THERE ANYWAY YOU CAN TELL? $40,000 MAY OR MAY NOT BE A LOT OF MONEY. I DON'T KNOW.

>> EXACTLY. WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO RESPOND. IS IT GOING TO BE WELL ESTABLISHED ARTIST VERSUS YOUR NEWER ARTISTS? THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT RATES. I WOULD HOPE WE COULD GET A COUPLE. I JUST DO NOT LIKE TO SPECULATE SORELY

TO THE PROCESS. >> I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD BE MISTAKEN IF YOU DID SPECULATE. I JUST DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE. ARE WE TALKING ONLY BUILDINGS THAT

ARE PRIVATELY OWNED? >> FOR THE MOST PART. IN THE

AREA. >> SO, I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE A BROAD EXPANSE THAT JUST CALLS FOR A

MURAL, RIGHT? >> OH MAN. I HAVE MY EYE ON SEVERAL PROPERTIES. I HAVE PHOTOS. I'M WAITING TO

HOPEFULLY SEE COME ALIVE. >> AND YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO WORK WITH THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION? I THINK THAT THAT IS A REALLY DOVETAILS WITH THE PAINT PROGRAM AND DOVETAILS WITH ALL THE IMPROVEMENT WE ARE TRY TO

PUT . >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT HIS PRESENTATION GIVEN TO THE COURT OR GROUP AT THEIR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE AND REALLY WELL RECEIVED. I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS GOING TO COME UP NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED IT IS THE WHOLE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE. I WOULD US TO FURTHER TO YOUR FOLKS TO DEAL WITH. BUT IT IS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE. TRYING TO GET AS MANY BUILDINGS AS POSSIBLE TO CLEAN UP AND GET CLIENTS. SO YOU MAY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT WITH MORE SPECIFICITY. WHAT CONSTITUTES A MINOR VIOLATION. PREFERABLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMPLIANCE. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY BUILDING IN THE CORRIDOR. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE. IT IS ANOTHER ONE

OF THOSE. >> I DON'T EITHER.

>> THERE IS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME LIKE THE ARCADE BUILDING HAD ISSUES. BECAUSE THERE WERE THINGS THAT THEY HAD MADE FOR DESIGN AND DIDN'T FIT IN. THERE WAS AN ONGOING NEGOTIATION KIND OF THING GOING ON.

>> THAT I'M JUST SUGGESTING IS GOING TO HAVE AN EAR TOWARDS THE COMPLIANCE ISSUE. ANYWAYS, JUST A HEADS UP TO SUGGEST.

>> RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO SPECIFY A BIT MORE IN DETAIL AS TO WHAT WE MEAN THAT CONSTITUTE AS A MAJOR COMPLIANCE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PROGRAM. RIGHT NOW AND THINKING MORE SO WHAT IS EXTERNALLY VISIBLE FOR THE MOST PART . TO SOME EXTENT, EVERYTHING ELSE IF IT IS A MORE CRITICAL WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A DEEPER DISCUSSION. BUT WE WANT THIS TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO COME TO COMPLIANCE SO THAT IT CAN BENEFIT FROM THINGS LIKE THIS. I THINK WHEN I START SEEING THE IMPACT THAT IT IS MAKING, THEY MAY BE THINKING HOW TO BECOME PART OF THAT?

HOPEFULLY. >> THERE IS A LOT OF ARTS INTEREST DOWNTOWN . I'M WONDERING IF IS THE DBA A GOOD GROUP TO KNOW ABOUT THIS PLAN YOU THINK? THEY HAVE A LOT OF

ARTIST ACTIVE DOWNTOWN. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL SHARE.

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>> I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS AS WELL.

WHATEVER YOU WOULD WANT ME TO. I THINK IT BRINGS ENERGY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS COMPLETED WE WOULD HOPE TO GET AS MUCH ATTENTION TO THIS INITIATIVE . WHENEVER I CAN PRESENT IT, WHERE WE CAN POST IT, SHARE, THROUGHOUT MEDICATIONS DIVISION AS WELL WE WILL DO THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVENTUALLY LIKE A MURAL TRAIL.

BECAUSE WE HAVE MINERALS ALREADY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY , AND SOME OF THEM WERE DONE -- LIKE THE ONE ON GEORGIA AND SUNRISE BOULEVARD THAT WAS DONE BY PAT MURPHY . THERE IS EVEN ONE DOWN IN THE PORT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT. IF YOU GO TO IN THE PORT AREA, IT IS FACING THE WATER. IT IS VERY FADED. NOBODY SEES IT. NOBODY GOES DOWN THERE BUT IT WOULD BE NEAT TO HAVE THAT REDONE. YOU KNOW. GO AHEAD.

>> MADAM CHAIR, THIS AREA IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE . MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE DOES INCLUDE THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THAT WOULD BE ON THE RESPECTIVE PARTNER.

SHE MAKES ABSOLUTELY. MINISTRY. THAT'S RIGHT.

>> DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT. >> AND OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION TOO, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THEM, HAVE YOU SEEN THE

PAINTED POTS? >> YES I HAVE.

>> THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO AND IT JUST CONDIMENTS THAT. ENTIRE

EFFORT. >> THAT WAS THE IDEA OF MATT SAMUEL. AND IT IS THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE. THAT WAS KIND OF THE INAUGURATION OF THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL THEM? NOBODY LOOKS AT THOSE. RIGHT. THE SANITARY. NO. I THINK THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE WAYS ON ORANGE AVENUE. AND ALSO NOT TO GIVE YOU SO MUCH TO DO BUT WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY COMMITTEE KNOWS THAT THIS IS

HAPPENING TOO. >> LISTEN, I JUST VOLUNTEERED TO BE THE LIAISON FOR KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL. I WILL MAKE

SURE TO TAKE CARE THAT. >> THAT'S GREAT.

>> YES, YES. WE WILL LOOK FOR GREAT THINGS FOR YOU BEYOND MURALS. I LOVE MURALS MYSELF. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? WE APPRECIATED. WE LOOK FORWARD TO. KEEP US POSTED.

>> THANK YOU. >> WOULD YOU MIND IF WE DID HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED?

>> I WOULD NOT MINE. >> APPROVED.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

[c. Funding for the proposed Boys & Girls Club facility on North 25th Street in the amount of $250,000]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS FUNDING FOR THE PROPOSED BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR THE FACILITY ON NORTH 25TH STREET.

IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000. >> MADAM CHAIR, WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT CANNOT DISCUSS THAT TODAY.

>> DO WE NEED ANY KIND OF ACTION ON THAT?

[d. Post Office Beautification Project]

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. >> WILL MOVE ON. NEXT ITEM.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS POST OFFICE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT.

>> ALL RIGHT. NOW WE HAVE REDO ASSISTANT , SARAH DELGADO, HE IS GOING TO GIVE US ANOTHER UPBEAT PRESENTATION ABOUT THE UPCOMING POST OFFICE BEAUTIFICATION.

>> MS. DELGADO . WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING. I HAVE THE POST OFFICE BEAUTIFICATION . THIS IS THE POST OFFICE AND

ORANGE AVENUE. >> ORANGE AVENUE WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT AGAIN. GOOD. >> I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE

FIRST BUILDING. >> YEAH. IT IS ALL GOING TO BE CONNECTED. WE HAVE THE POST OFFICE BEAUTIFYING OUR COMMUNITY. THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENCY IS TO REVITALIZE BOTH THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL TEMPERAMENT OF THE AREA. I'M A BLIGHT, CREATE AND SAFE BASES. THE TARGET PROJECT IS THE ORANGE AVENUE POST OFFICE. IT IS ON ONE OF OUR MAIN CORE DOORS AND IT IS AT THE ENTRANCE OF PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN. THIS BUILDING IS A CORNER PIECE THAT SHOULD PROVIDE AN APPEARANCE OF CLEANLINESS, ACUITY PRIDE, IN

AN AESTHETIC EXPERIENCE. >> AMEN.

>> THIS PROJECT MEETS THREE GOALS WITHIN THE PLAN.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY . SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. ONE OF THEM WOULD BE THE EXTERIOR PAINT

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LONGER GOING FOR. >> POST OFFICE BLUE?

>> RIGHT. POST OFFICE BLUE. >> THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THERE IS A POST OFFICE BLUE.

>> THEY DO. THIS KEY BLUE SHIRT.

>> TIRED FROM YESTERDAY'S MEETING.

>> YOUR SOME PICTURES OF THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE POST OFFICE. WE HAVE A PARKING LOT . SOME OF THE IDEAS WE HAD WAS PRESSURE WASH CONCRETE ISLANDS , REPAINT PAVEMENT MARKINGS,

AND BUMPER BLOCKS. >> CAN GO BACK TO THE BLUE?

>> WHATEVER THAT IS BLUE. I WANTED TO SEE. YET, THERE ARE.

DID YOU THINK ABOUT MODERNIZING THE LETTERING? BECAUSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT.

>> KNOW. I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT.

>> JUST A QUESTION. OKAY. I PLANTED A SEED FOR YOU. PLANTED

A SEED. THAT'S ALL. >> WE HAVE THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE POST OFFICE ALONG THE FENCE. WE HAVE REMOVED OVERGROWN VEGETATON WHICH IS AROUND THE ELECTRICAL. BUT THINK OVER THE FENCE WITH A BLACK SCREEN MESH. YOU CAN SEE THERE. THAT WOULD JUST BE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE. NORTH SIDE ALONG ORANGE AVENUE. WE HAVE TO PUT ARTIFICIAL RUBBER MOST OR SYNTHETIC GRASS AROUND THE PALM TREES. AND LANDSCAPING WHICH WOULD BE VERY LOW MAINTENANCE SHRUBBERY AROUND

THE BUILDING. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MODERNIZING THAT? THOSE LETTERS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> THIS IS THE MERRILL. THIS IS THE IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE. IT WOULD BE IN INSTALLABLE VINYL DECAL WRAP WHICH IS PRINTED OUT AND THEN THEY USE A HEATING GUN. IT LIKE ADHERES TO THE WALL GIVING IT THAT PAINT LIKE LOOK TO IT. THE VISION WE HAVE WAS STAMPS. I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THIS IS A LITTLE MOCKUP THAT I HAVE. WE HAVE

POST OFFICE AND THE MERRILL . >> NEAT. I THINK IT'S KIND OF

NEAT. >> LOOKS CLEAN, RIGHT? YEAH.

OUT. >> WE WANT TO ALSO ADD SOLAR UP LIGHTING TO BOTH SIGNS AND THE MERRILL AS WELL. AT NIGHT IT WILL REALLY BE NICE, BRIGHT , AND SHINY. THE PROJECT COST.

THE COMPLETE EXTERIOR PAINTING, $23,600. THE VINYL WALL WRAP , $20,000 . ADDITIONAL EXPENSES WE HAVE THE BLACK SCREEN MESH, $2000. SOLAR UP LIGHTING, $1800. THE ARTIFICIAL RUBBER MULCH INTO THE GRASS , LANDSCAPING $5000.

PRESSURE WASH AND REPAINT CURBS , ESTIMATE COST, 5500.

PROTECTED SOMEHOW? DOESN'T GET HEALED OR WHATEVER?

>> THAT IS THE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS VINYL WRAP. IT LASTS FIVE TO 10 YEARS. IT CAN ALSO BE REMOVED BY ADDING HEAT TO IT. THE COLOR NEVER FADES. AND IT DOES WELL WITH WATER

DAMAGE. >> COULD I SEE JUST A BIGGER ONE ? THERE IT IS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE AMERICAN FLAG STAMP WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE STANDARD STAMP. I WANTED TO

MAKE SURE. AND YOU HAVE IT. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD

ONE. >> THAT REALLY STANDS OUT.

>> WE CAN CHANGE IN AT OTHERWISE. THIS IS ONE I LIKE THAT ALSO INCORPORATED DIFFERENT CULTURES.

>> YEAH. ELVIS. >> OF COURSE YOU HAVE EXAMPLES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE WALL.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS MERRILL WILL

ONLY BE ON -- >> NORTH SIDE.

>> KNOW. THE EAST FACING WEST WALL. EAST ELEVATION. ON THE SIDE THAT IS FACING NORTH WHICH IS ORANGE AVENUE. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT SIDE? IT WILL JUST BE POST OFFICE BLUE?

>> I SEE THE LANDSCAPING PROPOSED. IT WAS -- WHEN HE

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PLEASE. RIGHT HERE. OKAY. THAT IS THE EAST SIDE.

>> THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE. THIS IS ALONG ORANGE AVENUE.

>> WITH THE FLAGPOLE THERE. THAT WILL BE POST OFFICE BLUE .

TO BE REPAINTED. >> THE EAST SIDE IS WHERE YOU

GO ENTER THE PARKING LOT. >> OKAY.

>> THIS WILL BE PAINTED. I THINK YOU MENTIONED UP LIGHTING HERE AROUND THIS. IT IS MOSTLY IN THESE AREAS.

>> WE WANT TO PUT THE UP LIGHTING WHERE THE SIGN IS WHERE IT SAYS THE UNITED STATES POST OFFICE. WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOME UP LIGHTING THERE. AND AND AROUND THE BUILDING WE WILL

HAVE THE SHRUBBERY. >> AND THEN HE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE RUBBER MULCHING. IS THAT IN THE

EMBEDDED. HERE? >> FOR THE PALM TREES ARE, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THE RUBBER MULCH. WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT EXTREMELY LOW MAINTENANCE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. AND THE RUBBER MULCH IS KIND OF LIKE THAT PLAYGROUND TYPE OF RUBBER.

>> LIKE THE KIDS PLAYGROUND. BANK SO THEY JUST DID SOME

IMPROVEMENT. >> I NOTICED THE DAY AFTER THEY DID IT LITERALLY. DID THEY PAINT OR DO THEY JUST PRESSURE

WASH ? >> WE DID SOME PRESSURE

WASHING. >> EVEN BETTER.

>> I WASN'T QUITE DONE WITH THIS.

>> SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. I NEEDED A BREAK. WE CAN GO TO THAT COST SLIGHT THING NOW. RIGHT QUICK SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY WITHIN PRA AREA. THIS IS THE FEDERAL BUILDING. AND WHERE IS ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THIS BUILDING, NUMBER ONE , WOULD BE MY CONCERN. AND OBVIOUSLY I RECALL AS A CHILD THIS PLACE WAS WELL-KEPT AND MOWED. IT WAS A BEACON BECAUSE THEY HAD OBVIOUSLY BUDGET. MY CONCERN IS MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE COMMISSION NOW HAS DETERIORATED TO THE POINT KNOWN HAS DONE NOTHING. IF YOU WALK AROUND IT AND LOOK AT THOSE GATES. WE TALK ABOUT PUTTING A BLACK MESH, IT JUST TRAPS PAPER AND MESH AND NO ONE GOES OUT TO THAT FACILITY TO PICK UP THE PAPER AND TRASH THAT IS THERE. AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING ME TO LOOK AT THE $5000 INVESTMENT WHICH MAY LAST FOR A WHILE, BUT THIS THING NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED OR WE ARE GOING TO BE BACK WITH A PRETTY BUILDING WITH A LOT OF TRASH. AND MARKINGS EVERYWHERE. AND THAT IS A CONCERN. SO I AM NOT AGAINST IT. I JUST NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HELPING US WITH THIS TO UNDERSTAND THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT?

>> I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE POSTMASTER. HE IS OUT RIGHT NOW. BUT YES. I REACHED OUT TO HIM TO SEE IF WE COULD COLLABORATE ON THE COST. IN REGARDS TO MAINTENANCE, THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO KEEP IT AS LOW-MAINTENANCE AS POSSIBLE.

BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN PICKING UP THE TRASH. AND I KNOW THE CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE HAS BEEN PUSHING THEM. THEY'RE RECEIVING A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE . NOW THERE IS LOTS OF

CONCERNED CITIZENS. >> I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD BRING UP CONGRESSMAN BECAUSE I WOULD HOPE THAT HE WOULD HELP WITH THIS. I DON'T -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT BRINGS ANY FUNDING EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE THEY HAVE BEEN RENAMING POST OFFICES FOR VETERANS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED ET CETERA.

THE MARK IS A MILESTONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COMES WITH ANY TYPE OF SUPPORT WHEN THEY DO THOSE THINGS AND RENAME IT.

BUT MAYBE PUT IT IN YOUR TICKET IF YOU'RE TALKING WITH THEM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. IF WE HAVE HAD A LOCAL HERO THAT IS GOING OFF TO WAR AND HAS BEEN INJURED OR MAYBE DIED AS A RESULT. THEY HAVE RENAMED POST OFFICES.

>> SORRY. THEY DO HAVE A PLAQUE THERE RIGHT HERE WHERE THE PALM TREES ARE. THE ONLY THING THE PLAQUE SAYS IS FOR CECE

ROSS. >> THAT'S WHO IT IS. REMEMBER?

>> MR. MEMPHIS AND I WERE TALKING. I THOUGHT THEY NAMED IT AFTER -- BUT IT'S NOT. YEAH.

>> SO IT IS ALREADY NAMED IN. WE WOULD HOPEFULLY AMPLIFY THE

ELEMENT. >> IT IS SO SMALL I HAD TO GO

UP AND LOOK AT IT. >> SOMETHING BIGGER.

>> REST MY CASE THEM. NO PROBLEM.

>> EVERYBODY THINKS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MONEY. ALWAYS HAS MONEY. AND I ACTUALLY THEY KEEP PRINTING IT. HERE'S THE THING. THE POST OFFICE IS NOT FUNDED. WELL-FUNDED.

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>> I UNDERSTAND. >> I THINK THE DETERIORATION IS DUE TO REDUCE COSTS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REVENUE FOR MAINTENANCE. I THINK IT IS JUST AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS PROBABLY IS GETTING SO MUCH COMPETITION FROM U.P.S. AND FEDEX ET CETERA. IT MIGHT BE ON LIFE SUPPORT. WE WOULD LIKE

TO KEEP THE BUILDING NICE. >> CHAIR. IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CUTS. I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE INVESTMENT. I WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A PLAN TO MAINTAIN THE INVESTMENT. BECAUSE SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND EVEN IF IT IS ADDITIONALLY MARKINGS ON THE CURB THAT EVERY YEAR NEEDS TO BE PAINTED OR AT LEAST PAPER BEING PICKED UP AROUND THE PLACE. THAT IS MY CONCERN.

THAT'S IT. AND I WANT TO PARTNER WITH THEM. THE LOCAL POST OFFICE. POSTMASTER TO AT LEAST SEE IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. THAT IS ALL I WANT TO BRING UP UP AT THIS POINT.

>> AT SOME POINT WE MIGHT BRING YOU TO THE ATTENTION OF KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL. I COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP OF A CLEANUP OR SOMEBODY PAYING ATTENTION TO IT. BECAUSE ON THEIR OWN, IT IS MY GUT FEELING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO. THEY'RE NOT GOING

TO DO. >> I WOULD, AS A PERSON THAT DOES THIS WORK ALL DAY LONG, I SEE AN ISSUE HERE. NOT COMING OUT OF THE GATE. I WILL GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.

YOU HAVE GOT TO INSTALL RUBBER MULCH IN THESE BAD AREAS. THE LANDSCAPER THERE ENGAGING IS NOT WEEDING THE BED. WITHIN SIX MONTHS YOU HAVE COMPLETELY OVERGROWN BEDS. IF THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS NOT OPERATIONAL, ALL THIS BRAND-NEW LANDSCAPING THAT IS INSTALLED, WITHIN A MONTH WILL BE GONE. I KNOW EACH LINE ITEM HAS A BUDGET ATTACHED TO IT.

THE BLACK MESHING THEY PUT ON THE FENCES GETS SLIT OR A STORM COMES THROUGH INTERESTED. WHO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO REPLACE IT. THIS IS GREAT FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS. IF THEY'RE NOT IN SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH US TO MAINTAIN THESE THINGS SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY HAVE VENDORS DOING IT X, Y, AND Z, WITHIN SIX MONTHS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME CONDITIONS POTENTIALLY EVEN WORSE. ALL THAT LANDSCAPING JUST INSTALLED IS NOW GONE. THAT MODULE INSTALLED IS NOW ALL OVERGROWN.

THE BLACK FENCING MATERIAL GETS DAMAGED. IT GETS HIT BY CAR. BUT THOUSAND THINGS HAPPEN. AND I JUST YET EVERY DAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LINKAGE HERE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASSUME SOME SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITIES TO MAINTAIN LANDSCAPING. MAINTAIN SPRINKLER SYSTEMS A BILLING STATEMENT OF THE DIE. I DON'T WANT TO GET TO IN THE WEEDS LITERALLY ON THIS. THAT IS WHAT I SEE HAPPENING.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO ALL DAY LONG IS MAINTAIN PROPERTIES LIKE THIS. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THEIR HISTORY WITH THIS BUILDING INDICATES CLEARLY AND INTEND NOT TO DO SO. THIS THING IS A WRECK. THEY HAD DONE A LITTLE POWER WASHING AND ALL OF THIS. THEY HAVE DONE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE MAINTENANCE THAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE. IF YOU DRIVE INTO THE PARKING LOT NOW, THERE IS BROKEN CAR STOPS ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT'S REALLY ALMOST A LIABILITY ISSUE. WHILE I AM AN ADVOCATE OF THE PROJECT, I ABSOLUTELY THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO, WHAT ARE THE CITY COMMITMENTS MOVING FORWARD? WHAT ARE THE POST OFFICE SERVICES? I AM ECHOING WITH MORE DETAILED ESSAY THIS HAS GOT SIX-MONTH BIG PROBLEM WRITTEN ALL OVER. IF THERE ON AN AGREEMENT SOMEWHERE TO PROVIDE SERVICES MOVING FORWARD THAN I WOULD HAVE SOME RELIEF. IF NOT, THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE BY AND SAY, WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY PROJECT? THAT IS MY CONCERN AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. THE POSTMASTER HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK COOPERATIVELY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR VENDORS ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICES NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THOSE INSTALLATIONS?

>> HE RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE. HE IS FEELING THE PRESSURE. I KNOW HE IS ON BOARD. WE SET THE FIND

OUT . >> YOU HAVE TO BE WHAT HE SAID IS YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC WITH THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT YOU TO DO. I THINK IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THAT WE HAVE TO GET BACK WITH CONGRESSMAN MAST. HE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE FUNDING. HE WILL NEED TO HAVE THE FUNDING FOR.

>> I LIKE UP FRONT. I LIKE FOR US TO KNOW AS THIS FPRA DID NOTE THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO AND THIS IS OUR INVESTMENT. IF WE CAN GET SOME SEMBLANCE OF THAT AND THEY SAY THEY WANT TO AGREE TO IT AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO OFF. I WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

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>> I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU. >> IS VERY NICE AND ADMIRABLE FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. BUT AS FUNDS ARE DEPLETED, YOU SEE ACTIVITY START TO WANE AS WELL. AND THE UNITED STATES POST OFFICE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA SPECIFICALLY IN THIS COUNTY, GET ALL OF OUR POST OFFICE FACILITIES. YOU CAN SEE THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE FACILITIES HAS DIMINISHED GREATLY AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR DECREASED BUDGET. SO, AS WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHAT ARE THEY SAY IT IS NICE TO HAVE A HANDSHAKE, BUT UNLESS WE HAVE A M.O. YOU OR AN AGREEMENT , WE CAN'T TAKE

IT FOR SURE. >> LET ME TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER , MR. MIMMS. I LOOK AT THE POST OFFICE ON WHAT IS THAT OUT THERE? MIDWAY ROAD WHEN I GO OUT THERE. I DON'T SEE PAPER EVERYWHERE I SEE THE GRASS CUT. I SEE A WELL-MAINTAINED PARKING LOT WHEN PEOPLE GO IN AND THEY GO OUT. THIS IS IN THE CITY. IT GETS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT IS IN A COMMUNITY. STUFF BLOWS FROM EVERYWHERE. FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES. I GOT IT. BUT GETS TRAPPED THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE AN EYESORE. I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S UP AGAINST PEER BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE POSTMASTER. IF YOU CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO PICK UP PAPER AROUND THERE. AND YOU WANT ME TO INVEST $55,000.

>> I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THIS POSTMASTER IN CHARGE OF THIS MAIN POST OFFICE. THIS USED TO BE THE MAIN POST OFFICE. BUT THE ONE ON MIDWAY AS WELL. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THEY HAVE ONE MAINTENANCE GENTLE PERSON. AND THAT PERSON

MAINTAINS BOTH FACILITIES. >> OKAY.

>> NOT TO GET TECHNICAL ABOUT THIS, NOW I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES CLOSELY. THERE IS NO OPERATIONAL SPRINKLER SYSTEM HERE. I CAN JUST TELL BY LOOKING AT THE PICTURES. MR. JOHNSON, AND SHARE YOUR CONCERNS COMPLETE. NICK, ABSOLUTELY THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN SPECIFIC DETAIL.

I'LL TAKE A RIDE BY THIS PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO LOOK AROUND PROBABLY 10 MINUTES WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS. WHAT NEEDS BE DONE. I'M GOING TO COMMUNICATE MY THOUGHTS AS TO WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE -- HOWEVER, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE HERE IN THAT THE POST OFFICE , NOT SURE THE LAND AREA FOR SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA, I WILL HAVE TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT. WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH SOME KIND OF LANDSCAPE SCREENING. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PAD AREA, THERE IS BEAUTIFUL PALM TREES PLANTED ALL DROP THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AT LEAST YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAW AWAY FROM THE PHYSICALITY OF THE PROPERTY BY PUTTING SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD THEN SUBSEQUENTLY MAINTAINED AS THE CITY. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE . BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THIS PROPERTY, I SEE THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY ONE, AND OF 30 DAYS, NOT SO GOOD. IN THE THREE MONTHS, HALF OF IT IS THAT, BY THE END OF SIX MONTHS WE ARE STARTING OVER AGAIN. IF THEY HAVE ONE MAINTENANCE PERSON MAINTAINS BOTH OF THESE -- IS A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. ONE PERSON MAINTAINING GOES, THAT DOESN'T WORK. THEIR OUTSOURCING THEIR LANDSCAPING ALL THAT I CAN TELL YOU THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH REGIONAL SPRINKLER SYSTEM. WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE NEW LANDSCAPE ASSETS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR PORTIONING FOR THOSE. THIS IS GOT PROBLEMS. AS MUCH AS I'M IN

FAVOR OF IT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN. ESPECIALLY HAPPEN . I LOVE THE MERRILL AND I LOVE THE PAINTING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE

MAINTAINED. >> THE PAINTING AND THE MERRILL

IS FINE. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE OTHER HAPPEN. I WILL TELL YOU IN THE CONVERSATION WITH CONGRESSMAN MAST SAID TO ME AND NICK AT THE SAME TIME. THIS IS MY TOWN. THIS IS WHERE I LIVE. AND I WANT TO HELP YOU IN ANY WAY MAKE THINGS -- ANYTHING THAT IS TIED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT I WANT TO HELP MAKE SURE IT LOOKS BETTER.

AND SO IF WE DON'T DO THE OTHER STUFF OR FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T OR WHATEVER, I THINK WE NEED TO WORK CLOSELY. HE KNOWS THAT WE ARE TRYING. THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THAT EFFORT.

>> I'M SINGLE CAN SHARE IT WITH THAT AND DO IT. HE NEEDS TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT. TO MAKE SURE OUR CONCERNS. RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY. >> BE IN THE LOOP.

>> CONCERNS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO IRRIGATION HERE AND WE HAVE

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AND IF HE HAS ALREADY GOT A TIGHT BUDGET -- I AM IN FAVOR.

I WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR. BUT I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUSLY EXPEDITIOUS WITH THE MONEY ON HOW WE SPEND THIS MONEY WITH THAT. I WANT TO SAY. WE ARE ABSOLUTELY BRIGHT IN THAT CORNER. WE DID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF REPAIR OF 17TH STREET. IT ENDS RIGHT HERE. AND YOU GET THIS.

>> AND IT WILL HELP FORT PIERCE. IT IS A FEDERAL FACILITY. YOU HEAR WHAT WE ARE ALL SAFE. WE WANT TO DO IT ALL.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT ALL. >> I THINK IF WE CAN DO IT IN PHASES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PAINT THE BUILDING. LIKE YOU SAID THAT IS NOT MUCH UPKEEP. THE MERRILL AS WELL. THERE IS

NO UPKEEP THERE. >> AND AS WE WORK , YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WE CAN KEEP THIS UP AND WHO IS YOUR LANDSCAPER, RIGHT? CAN WE HAVE THOSE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS?

>> YEAH, I THINK WE CAN. WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN ADDITION TO BEING MORE CREATIVE WITH THE LANDSCAPE TYPE . ZERO SCAPE LANDSCAPE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CONDITIONS OF WATERING EVERY TWO DAYS. SORRY. EVERY TWO DAYS.

>> EVERY TWO DAYS? >> WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE THINGS. IF THE BED NEEDS BE REDUCED, WE TAKE OUT THESE OLD RAILROAD TIES. GET RID OF THOSE. THAT IS WHAT IS THERE IN THE PICTURE BY THE WAY. OLD RAILROAD TIES.

>> IN THE CENTER PICTURE? >> YEAH. THOSE LITTLE BORDERS ARE RAILROAD TIES. THEY WERE USED QUITE OFTEN IN A LOT OF PLACES. AND THAT'S OKAY. IT SERVED ITS USEFUL LIFE. COME UP WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE. A LITTLE BUFFER TO GET THE LANDSCAPE AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO TOO MUCH MAINTENANCE TO IT AND STILL SPRUCE UP THE PLACE. AND IT BECOMES JUST A LAWNMOWING OPERATION. IF THEY'RE GOING TO

KEEP THE GRASS. >> THAT USED TO BE A PLANTER BED. THERE IS TO BE SOMETHING IN THAT.

>> OH YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS WHY IT IS GOT TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAINTAIN IT WHIZZING.

>> YEAH? YES, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. WHEN I SAW THIS IN MY PACKET, I WAS LIKE, OKAY. FIRST CASE I THOUGHT THIS WAS A FEDERAL BUILDING. UNITED STATES POSTAL IS A FEDERAL BUILDING. NOW I KNOW. I GOT CLARIFICATION IT IS. WE ARE WORKING AIR QUOTES WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE SEE WHAT THAT HAS GOTTEN US TODAY. WE SEE WHAT TYPE OF CONDITION THIS BUILDING IS. SO, FOR THE RECORD, I LOVE THE BEAUTIFICATION. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT EYE-OPENER FOR THE AREA. ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CITY HAS ALREADY SPENT MONEY WITH THOSE ROADS IN THEIR AREA. WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID BUT I AM A REALIST. IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO THIS BUILDING , WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND UNDERSTAND THAT TO MAINTAIN OUR INVESTMENT , IS GOING TO BE US . IT IS GOING TO BE US TO PUT IN THE WORK TO MAINTAIN OUR INVESTMENT. IT IS GOING TO BE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. CONGRESSMAN MAST MIGHT COME IN AND HELP US. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, WE GO FORWARD KNOWING THAT IF WE PUT GOODBYE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND MAKE THIS BUILDING LOOK LIKE THESE PICTURES TO MAKE IT MAINTAIN THAT WAY IT'S GOING TO BE ON US. AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BERGER . WILL HAVE AN OPENING. WE WILL HAVE A GRAND SHOWING OF US TAKING PICTURES OF THIS MURAL. THIS GRASS, THESE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING. SIX WEEKS, SEVEN WEEKS LATER , WE ARE GOING TO BE WAITING ON SOMEBODY TO, AS COMMISSIONER JOHN SAID, TO GO OUT AND PICK UP TRASH. HOPEFULLY NO ONE GOES BITE AND RIPS THOSE BLACK VINYL THINGS . SO IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AND SAY, OKAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, ARE WE REALLY GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT MAINTENANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS KEPT RIGHT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO INVEST THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THEN SIX WEEKS, SEVEN WEEKS, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE CARES AFTER WE

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THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE NOW. >> WE AVOIDED.

>> SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON SAID , AND THIS IS A MAIN STAPLE. OF DISTRICT 1.

THIS POST OFFICE. FORT PIERCE. THIS POST OFFICE. EVERYBODY

COMES TO THIS POST OFFICE >> EVERYBODY YOU HAVE P.O.

BOXES. >> MAYBE THIS WILL BE A GREAT PROJECT AFTER WE DID THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR.

ASSOCIATION. TO COME IN AND SAY THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT I JUST FEEL THAT WE GIVE THEM THIS MONEY, WE PAINTED , MAKE IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. MAKE CC A LITTLE BIGGER. LET EVERYBODY KNOW SHE IS THERE. AND IS THERE. AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO THEN? I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE COMMISSIONER WILL BE , I TOLD YOU SO. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WILL BE LIKE , THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR SOME TYPE OF WRITING . WE LOOK LIKE WE JUST THREW AWAY $55,000 AND WILLING A GO DOWN. BECAUSE TRUST ME. SOMEBODY'S LISTENING TO THIS AND WILL BRING YOU BACK IN OUR FACE THAT WOULD PUT $55,000 INTO A PUBLIC BUILDING TO A FEDERAL BUILDING WHEN WE COULD HAVE USED THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE IN THIS AREA. I AM WITH YOU. WE WILL PAINTED BLUE. LOVE IT. I EVEN LIKE COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH'S IDEA WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF WORDING ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET THE RIGHT LIGHTS TO HIT. IT POPS OUT. BUT I'M JUST AFRAID THAT TWO MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD WE ARE GOING TO BE BACK HERE DISCUSSING OR GETTING COMPLAINTS ON HOW BAD IT LOOKS.

I DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TO IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, LET'S JUST DO THAT AND KNOW THAT MORE THAN LIKELY IT IS GOING TO FALL ON US TO KEEP IT UP. AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE WILLING TO DO.

>> CAN GO TO THE LAST PAGE FOR ME? I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TAKE ON ALL OF IT. A LOOK AT THE PRICE OF THE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH ADDITIONAL EXPENSES IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE GETTING INTO THE DISCUSSION, RIGHT? WHAT IF YOU THOUSAND $600 IS THE CORE EXTERIOR PORTION OF THE PROJECT. THAT IS VERY

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HAVE WE TALKED TO THE MAINTENANCE PERSON? HERE IS WHY I SAY THIS. AS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS WORKING AROUND FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENTS FOR MANY YEARS, IF YOU ASK THE INDIVIDUAL THE TYPE OF LANDSCAPING, THE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT ON WHICH THIS BUILDING SITS, I GUARANTEE HE IS GOING TO SAY I COULDN'T KEEP UP. OBVIOUSLY. RIGHT? WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE ACTUAL EVIDENCE BUT THE INDIVIDUAL IS PROBABLY GOING TO SAY I JUST COULDN'T DO IT. BUT WHEN YOU BECOME CREATED WITH LANDSCAPING, YOU BECOME CREATED WITH YOUR ESCAPE YOU BECOME CREATED WITH DIFFERENT MULCH TYPES AND PLANTER BEDS, THAT INDIVIDUAL NUMBER ONE GETS PUMPED UP BECAUSE THEIR FACILITY LOOKS BETTER. NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE WORKLOAD JUST GOT CUT BY 30 OR 40% POTENTIALLY. POTENTIALLY.

THERE IS A LOT OF EXPENSE UP HERE. WE HAVE MAINTAINED THE BUILDINGS PRETTY COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE WITHIN THAT LITTLE TO AND THE POSTMASTER IS WILLING TO DO IT OR THE MAINTENANCE PERSON JUST SAYS, HEY, IT'S BEEN -- THERE'S A ROOF ACROSS THE WATER. SO THE ROOF IS ACTUALLY NOT IN THIS FASHION. THE ONLY AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE A SYSTEM COLLECTED WATER IS THE FRONT LITTLE RESECTION IN FRONT OF THE FLAGPOLE. AND IN FRONT OF THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND SCREEN . I HAD TO ZOOM IN ON GOOGLE MAPS TO MAKE SURE IT IS A FLAT ROOF.

IF THE POST MASTER OR CONGRESSMAN OR PART OF OUR FUNDING GOES INTO A GUTTERING SYSTEM, THAT ALSO HELPS WITH THE LANDSCAPING. BECAUSE YOU HAVE WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

SO THERE THE COMMENTS OF EFFORTS HERE THAT CAN BE DONE TO WHERE I PROMISE YOU TALK TO THE MAINTENANCE PERSON. THEY'RE GOING TO SAY , YOU KNOW, YOU FIGURE OUT WAYS TO ELEVATE HEADACHES. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MOWING GRASS FOR 42 YEARS AND GOING ALL MY GOSH I HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND THAT SAME LANDSCAPE TIMBER. I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THE WEED CONTROL. AND THERE IS MOLD ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT IS ON THE NORTH ELEVATION WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS.

THE NORTH ELEVATION WHERE WE LIVE IS ALWAYS THE MOLDY MILITARY SIDE OF THE HOUSE OR BUILDING. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEE ENOUGH SUNLIGHT. BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE. IT IS JUST A FACT OF LIFE I AM A LITTLE MORE ENCOURAGED WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE EFFORT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET AFTER THE FOLKS THAT HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE STUFF. IF IT IS IN AGREEMENT , I AM AGAINST OUR CITY STAFF GOING THERE. HUNDRED PERCENT. 100% AGAINST IT. I'M SITTING WITH THE FPRA HAT ON . BUT I CAN STILL SAY IT SO THAT I CAN TELL MYSELF TOMORROW. IT IS A CHALLENGE BUT I THINK IT IS AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY FOR A PROJECT. I THINK YOU JUST GOT

TO BE CREATIVE. >> IF YOU'RE GOING INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY ON THIS. THERE IS NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM INSTALLED ON THIS BUILDING. YOU HAVE GOT TO ADD ANOTHER 15 20S SPRING WAS. WE COULD PUT A MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE BUT ON THE TO REALLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS AS TO WHAT WE ARE 20 GREAT HERE. I DON'T WANT TO INVEST THAT MONEY INTO A FEDERAL BUILDING. I GUESS I'M SUGGESTING IS ARE WE BETTER OFF TAKING $35,000 AND THE POINT THAT IN SOME TYPE OF OTHER ORANGE AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS? I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT AS A RHETORICAL QUESTION SO I'M REALLY SURE WHAT TO DO $5000 GET TO IN ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. IMPROVE SIGNAGE, IMPROVED THINGS OF THIS NATURE. IS THERE A BETTER IMPACT WITH THAT RATHER THAN PUTTING IT INTO A FEDERAL FACILITY , AND COMMISSIONER GAINES IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. EVERYBODY SAID THE SAME THING. WE'RE INVESTING THIS IN A GOVERNMENT BUILDING. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO -- I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE PERSON OUT THERE MOWING GIVEN THAT BID TO THE LOWEST CONTRACTOR. IT IS NOT

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THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED WITH LANDSCAPING. SO TO GET BACK TO COMMISSIONER GAINES 'S TOPIC , WE ARE BRINGING A LANDSCAPE INSTALLER. TO A BUILDING THAT IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I GET IT. IT IS AN EYESORE. IT NEEDS TO HAVE AN INVESTMENT. I WAS NOT SURE HOW WE PROTECT THAT INVESTMENT. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE CAN. BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GAINES'S, AND REALLY RESONATE WITH ME. A MONTH FROM NOW, TWO MONTHS NOW, THREE MONTHS FROM NOW AS WE ARE DRIVING BY WATCHING IT DETERIORATE, WHAT IS OUR CAUSE OF ACTION? DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE PURSUING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDING? THEY CERTAINLY AREN'T NOW. THIS IS A REAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE IT IS 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF EYESORE SITTING AT THAT CORNER WHICH REALLY NEEDS HELP. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT HELP IS WITHOUT IS COMING BACK THREE MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAYING THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

>> THAT'S WHY I WANT TO BE CREATIVE. I DON'T WANT TO YOU THAT ORIGINALS SOME. I DON'T WANT TO PUT IRRIGATION IN. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT ANYTHING THAT GOES THERE NEEDS TO BE MAINTENANCE-FREE. DROUGHT TOLERANT. THAT'S IT. AND IT'S

DONE. >> STILL NOT CONFIDENT THAT IT IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED PROPERLY. NOW YOU GOT A LANDSCAPER THAT IS A LOOPY GUY MAINTAINING LAWS. I GOT THE CUT THE HEDGES. I GOT THE TRIM ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW GUYS. I WILL CONTINUE ON THAT , BUT YOU GET MY CONCERN.

>> MADAM CHAIR , I VOICE MY CONCERNS. BUT LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR. THIS PROJECT HERE IS CENTRAL. TO EVERYTHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED ON THIS BOARD AND THE OTHER BOARD. ABOUT ORANGE AVENUE. ABOUT ORANGE AVENUE. AND THAT ASSOCIATION IS GOING OUT TALKING TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND ASKING THEM TO MAKE THAT QUARTER COMING IN DOWNTOWN.

>> I DON'T WANT TO CROSS TOWARDS BUT THAT IS WHAT BOTH BOARDS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE YEAR OR THAT ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR. THE ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR. THIS CORNER AND THIS BUILDING IS CRUCIAL TO THAT ORANGE AVENUE CORRIDOR. AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, EVERYBODY COMES TO THIS POST OFFICE . EVERYBODY COMES THIS POST OFFICE. AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO SHOW THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WE ARE ASKING FROM BOTH OF THESE BOARDS WE ARE ASKING TO PUT MONEY IN TO MAKE THEIR BUSINESSES ON ORANGE AVENUE BETTER , RIGHT? LIKE I SAID , IF WE ARE GOING TO STEP OUT AND MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE I SEE OUR ENGINEERS HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE JUST SPENT ON THAT ROAD THAT STOPS. THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST DID. THE EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.

>> $1.1 MILLION. >> THERE YOU GO. EVERYBODY IS HAPPY ABOUT THAT ROAD THAT WE JUST PUT THERE. YOU GO ASK ALL THEM RESIDENTS . THEY'RE HAPPY. THERE HAVE TO GO AROUND THE POTHOLES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. BUT WE DID IT NOW WE ARE COMING TO THIS. THIS WILL BE A SIGNAL TO ALL OF THE REST OF THOSE BUSINESSES ON ORANGE AVENUE THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING THAT CORRIDOR COMING INTO DOWNTOWN. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I AM AGAINST IT, BUT LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO IT THAT WE WON'T BE SITTING HERE AND YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT ME THREE MONTHS LATER SAYING THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS NOW. THAT IS ALL I'M ASKING. I THINK THAT WHAT COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON SAID EARLIER . WHAT HE WAS ALLUDING TO AND UNLIKELY TO ASSUME WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO IS BRING THIS BACK WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM THE POSTMASTER GENERAL OR CONGRESSMAN MAST'S OFFICE. THEY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. WE WANT TO HELP YOU , BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. AT THAT POINT , WE CAN MAKE A BETTER DECISION. WE CAN MAKE A BETTER DECISION AND I GIVES MY COLLEAGUE TO THE

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THERE. >> WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE GOT A THINK ABOUT THIS LOGISTICALLY, RIGHT? OKAY, SO CONGRESSMAN MAST DOES NOT CONTROL THE POST OFFICE. HE MAY URGE THEM, HE MAY SEND THEM A LETTER.

EXACTLY. >> IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BASE.

>> PLEASE. WHAT WE CAN DO AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS. IF WE WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH AN AGREEMENT OR SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THIS PURPOSE, WE CAN. HOWEVER, IF THAT DOES NOT OCCUR, WE CAN SIMPLY REDUCE THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. WE CAN LOOK AT THE PAINTING AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE VINYL WALL WRAP . WE CAN EVEN LOOK AT THE SOLAR OF LIGHTING AND WE CAN STOP THE PROJECT AS SUCH. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING. IT CAN JUST BE MOLD WITH A LAWNMOWER AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. BUT WE CAN DO ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS. I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 2 TO 3 MONTHS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ABOUT

THIS. >> MADAM CHAIR, I GUESS WE SAY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I GUESS WHAT COMMISSIONER GAINES SAID , THE LOCAL POSTMASTER THEY TALKED TO THAT RUNS BOTH OF THESE FACILITIES . HE CAN PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK AS TO WHERE BUDGETS ARE, MONEY, ET CETERA. IF I HEAR FROM YOU, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. AM I HEARING FROM YOU THAT YOU HAVE EXHAUSTED THAT CONVERSATION WITH THIS PERSON AND WE ARE NOT GETTING TO THE POINT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO GO

HIGHER? >> I VISITED THE POST OFFICE IT IS A PLACE. IT NEEDS SOME LOVE. I DON'T THINK THAT THE POSTMASTER CAN JUST TELL US WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT TO GIVE YOU A LEVEL OF COMFORT. THE POSTMASTER CANNOT JUST WRITE A NOTE ON A NAPKIN AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

>> I AGREE. IF WE TOOK SOMETHING TO THAT POSTMASTER HERE BE THE PERSON TO SAY I CAN MAKE A DECISION OR I WILL HAVE TO RUN THIS UP LITERALLY THE FLAGPOLE.

>> HE WOULD DEFTLY HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH HIS CHANNELS AND IT

IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE. >> I WOULD IMAGINE THAT EVEN IF WE ARE GOING TO PAINT A FEDERAL FACILITY, HE WOULD STILL HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME ARCHITECTURAL CHANGE TO FEDERAL STRUCTURE HERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADHESIVES A LINK TO THE SIDE OF A BUILDING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAINT IT BLUE AND PUT SOME UP LIGHT, I'M SURE HE IS GOING TO HAVE TO RUN THAT BY SOMEBODY.

>> YEAH, HE SEEMED TO BE OKAY WITH THAT. THAT IS NOT A STRUCTURAL CHANGE. THAT IS JUST PAIN.

>> I UNDERSTAND. BUT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE HE IS NOT HERE. I'M GOING WITH STAFF. I'M SUPPORTING EVERYTHING HERE. IS THAT I THINK WE WANT A PARTNER. I WOULD RATHER KNOW OF FRONT WHERE MY PARTNERS AT. IF THEY BOTH COME BACK AND BOTH OF THEM SAY NO, THEN I CAN RECALIBRATE AND FIGURE THIS OUT. THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING. BECAUSE WE ARE ALL SITTING HERE IN THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING US. AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE FPRA BOARD DID THIS AND WE NEED BLANK BLANK BLANK AS A COMMUNITY.

>> SO, WHAT I HEAR US SAYING IS WE'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE PAINTING AND THE WRAP . I THINK. RIGHT? BUT WE WANT TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF.

RIGHT? SO ARE WE GOING TO APPROVE HEART OF THIS PROJECT TODAY OR JUST WAIT AND TAKE IT ALTOGETHER?

>> ME, PERSONALLY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT WE COME BACK TO YOU WHEN WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF AN AGREEMENT.

AND BASED UPON THAT INFORMATION WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A REVISED PROPOSAL. AND THEN WE WILL ASK FOR FUNDING AT THAT

TIME. >> AND I AM HEARING ALSO OR MAYBE THIS IS JUST ME I WON'T REPRESENTED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALL A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE'RE

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KIND OF COLLABORATIVE PROJECT. >> MADAM CHAIR, I AGREE. AND I THINK THAT WE WILL SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA BETTER IF ONCE WE MAKE THIS DECISION , WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US A -- FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THEN BASED ON WHATEVER THEY COME BACK AND THEY BASED ON THAT THEN WE CAN MAKE A JUDGMENT BASED ON WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR CITY AND WHAT WE WANT FOR THE AREA. BUT TO MAKE IT NOW NOT KNOWING THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, THEY DIDN'T EVEN TALK. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE POSTMASTER GENERAL IS GOING TO DO. AND I HATE TO PUT ON HIS HAT AGAIN, BUT IF I'M SITTING IN ON THE POSTMASTER GENERAL, AND I'M SITTING OUT THERE AND WE VOTE FOR $55,000 , I'M GOING TO SAY ANYTHING I CAN TO GET THIS MURAL AND PAINT AND EDITING.

>> I GOT THAT MONEY I CAN BUT SOMEPLACE ELSE. BUT UNLESS HE COMES BACK AND SAYS -- AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING THAT. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME NO EMAILS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M JUST SAYING LET'S JUST -- I LOVE THE PRODUCT. DELICIOUS SLOW IT DOWN. CITY MANAGER SAID IT MIGHT BE A COUPLE MONTHS. OKAY.

I WOULD RATHER WAIT A COUPLE MONTHS AND MAKE A BETTER EDUCATED DECISION THAN RUSSIAN TODAY AND WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE WILL HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE US AND IT IS OUR DUTY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AT THAT TIME WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE THINK THIS IS SO CRUCIAL TO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO BEAUTIFY FORT PIERCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, AT LEAST WE ARE MAKING A RATIONAL DECISION AND THEN WE GET THE EMAILS AND COMPLAINTS FOR DOING IT, THEN I FEEL BETTER AND I WILL KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THEM.

>> AGREED. WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO A

DATE CERTAIN ? >> ACTUALLY, I THINK I'M GOOD.

I HEARD THE SENTIMENT OF THE FPRA BOARD. GO AHEAD.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I'LL IS GOING TO SAY MAY BE A MOTION TO TABLE IT BECAUSE UNLIKE THE PRIOR ITEM WHICH WAS JUST PULLED BY STAFF, THIS WAS DISCUSSED. MAYBE WE JUST DO A MOTION.

>> MADAM CHAIR, A MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PULLED THE POST OFFICE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

>> DOES IT HAVE TO BE A DATE CERTAIN?

>> IF YOU JUST SAY A MOTION MOVED TO TABLE IT, YOU DON'T

NEED TO ADD A DATE CERTAIN. >> I WILL STRIKE THAT MOTION.

MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> DID A GOOD JOB. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT

WENT INTO THIS. >> THAT'S FOR ALL STAFF, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED US AND PUT US IN THAT POSITION . WE JUST NEED A FEW MORE ANSWERS TO HELP US WITH THIS.

>> I LIKE THE MURAL WRAP. I WANT TO SEE THAT.

>> WITH THE STAMPS AND EVERY THING.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS STAFF

COMMENTS. >> MR. MIMMS. DO YOU HAVE ANY

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COMMENTS? >> EARLY?

>> BOARD COMMENTS. ANY BOARD COMMENTS?

>> I HAVE ONE . >> OKAY.

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>> MR. MANAGER, ARE WE GOING TO BRING BACK THE FUNDING QUESTION ANOTHER TIME OR ARE WE PULLING IT ? IF THAT IS PROPER TO ASK , MADAM ATTORNEY? I JUST NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE YOU KNOW I BROUGHT THAT MOTION IN. I HAVE SOME OTHER INFORMATION ON

IT. I DOES WANT TO KNOW. >> ITEM C?

>> YES. >> MR. MIMMS.

>> ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER REQUESTED THIS ON TO BE PLACED IN HIS AGENDA. ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER REQUESTED THIS ITEM TO

BE REMOVED. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? ANYTHING ELSE?

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED. >> HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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