Mar 06, 2023 City Commission Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS MONDAY, MARCH 6.

THIS IS THE AGENDA. PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD

GAINES AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> LET US BOW OUR HEADS.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER WE COME TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SEE ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL DAY YOU HAVE GIVEN US. GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND KNOWLEDGE TO DO NOT YOU ARE WELL BUT NOT OURS THAT WE REPRESENT ALL RESIDNTS IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE ALTHOUGH WE

ASK IN YOUR NAME, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH

REPARTEE AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> MOVE FOR THE MEETING >> THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND.

[7. LETTERS TO COMMISSION]

CALL THE WRONG PLACE. >> FILE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. WE BASICALLY RECEIVED LETTERS FROM RUDY LOPEZ, BRIAN LAPORTE, ERIC GILL AND TREASURE COAST DISC GOLF CLUB AT THE INDIAN HILLS RECREATION AREA, AND RECEIVED A LETTER FROM TREASURE COAST KENNEL CLUB OF FLORIDA, PRESIDENT KAREN CORLEY COMMENDING [INDISCERNIBLE] HUMANE SOCIETY DID ACTUALLY, SHE IS THE FT. PIERCE ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER OPERATION MANAGER FOR HER POSITIVITY, GENUINE LOVE OF THE ANIMALS, IN HER CARE AND HER

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

WE HAVE ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA

>> ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO ADD OR DELETE OR CHANGE? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL >> SECOND

>> THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> ALL RIGHT.O WE WILL HAVE -- EVERYONE WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND WE HAVE NINE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP, AND MS. COX WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING, AND THE MORNING WILL BE HOW MANY SECONDS? 10 SECONDS.

SHE SWITCHES IT UP EVERY SINGLE TIME, SO 10 SECONDS IS GOOD. IT GIVES PEOPLE TIME TO WIND IT UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH

NEXT, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

>> WELCOME >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS DIANE LIVE AT 206 RIVERWALK IN FORT PIERCE. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THE EXTENSION TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND SHELLEY CORPORATION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF. IT'S MY BELIEF THAT HERE IN FORT PIERCE, DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND I THINK THE SHELLEY PROPOSAL HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY THOUGHTFUL ON A LOT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FOR PROTECTING OUR WATERWAY.

THERE MAY BE SOME WEAKNESSES TO IT, AND I AM VERY EMPATHETIC TO WHAT I HEAR ABOUT THE LOSS OF BOAT RAMPS IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE EXTENSION AND WORKING THOSE ISSUES OUT. THANK YOU

P>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR.

READY TO COME UP NEXT. >> I AM DENNIS SPECK I LIVE AT 4912 SILVER OAK DOCTOR IN FORT PIERCE. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF FT. PIERCE.

I'M A HEAVY BOAT USER. WE SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM IN THIS TOWN RIGHT NOW WITH JUST GETTING PARKING SPACES AT OUR BOAT RAMPS, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE HAVING THIS ONE TAKEN

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>> THANK YOU, SIR.JOHNSON ROAD. I'VE BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY.

I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO NOT APPROVE FOR THE SHELLEY CORPORATION.

ALL THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE PAGE 37 SAYS AS SUCH THE PROJECT WILL BE POSITIONED RELATIVE EFFECTS OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. I USE THAT BOAT RAMP IF NOT GO ACROSS AND PLAY WITH THAT

MADNESS BUT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT BOAT RAMP. >> THANK YOU.

KRISTA STONE AND THEN TIMOTHY WHITE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS KRISTA STONE. I AM HERE. I WORK HERE ALSO WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN FOR ALL PARTIES. I WANTED TO SAY THAT I KNOW THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR EVERY LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT IS EITHER BEEN PRODUCTIVE OR NEGATIVE. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOW THE LEVEL WHERE IT'S TIME TO WORK TOGETHER AND FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN DISSOLVE ANY OF THE NEGATIVE AND START BEING PRODUCTIVE WITH ONE ANOTHER. I LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THE REAR A POSTER FOR THIS PROJECT, THAT WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SPEAKING.

THAT'S HOW THINGS CAN CHANGE AND THAT'S HOW WE CAN WORK THINGS.

VERY MUCH A SUPPORTER OF SHELLEY ASSOCIATES AND PIERCE ONE ARENA.

I KNOW THAT DEFINITELY CHANGES A LOT OF THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE AVAILABILITY, BUT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON PROJECTS LIKE HARBOUR POINTE FOR ALMOST 7 YEARS HOPING THAT WOULD BE THE DEVELOPED FUTURE OF THE UNOFFICIAL PROGRAM COMBINING THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY AND OTHER RESOURCES TO PROVIDE A GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR VOTING AS WELL AS KNOWLEDGE AND SAFETY. I DEFINITELY SEE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BOATING OPPORTUNITIES, SO EVERYBODY IS UPSET. WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY WE CAN CONCLUDE MORE TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT WE CAN BE PRODUCTIVE AS WELL AS SECURE ANTIQUITIES HERE OF THE OLD FT. PIERCE WHILE MOVING FORWARD INTO A NEW WAY OF LIFE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. WHITE. FOLLOWING MR. WHITE, JEAN HORN.

>> TIMOTHY WHITE I LIVE AT 5500 ST. LUCIE BOULEVARD IN FORT PIERCE.

I'M A SMALL BUSINESS HERE AND I'M FOR THIS PROJECT AND I THINK THIS PROJECT IS GOOD FOR FT. PIERCE. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S LOTS OF GUYS WHO WANTED AND SOME THAT DON'T WANT IT.THEY WILL LOSE 50 BOATING SPOTS AND I CAN'T PARK TRAILERS AND I CAN GET IN AND OUT OF THE RAMP. THIS MEANS SO MUCH MORE TO FT. PIERCE THAN CONDOS OR REDEVELOPING THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S GOING TO HOLD A LOT MORE BOATS THAN HOLDING A PARKING LOT IN TRAILERS ANYWAY. THE BOOKS CAN STORE THERE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO SERVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE A DIFFERENT WAY.

IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE USABLE FOR MORE THAN JUST PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR TRAILERS.

FAMILIES CAN COME OUT AND THERE'S GOING TO BE FREE DOCKING FOR BOATS IN THE WATER THAT COME FROM OTHER PLACES. THEY CAN TALK AND MUSIC. THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVES OTHER THAN JUST BEING TAKING AWAY PARKING SPOT FOR TRAILERS, UNFORTUNATELY.IT HAS TO WORK FOR EVERYBODY AND RIGHT NOW IT'S SO ONE-SIDED. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. HORN? AND THEN FOLLOWED BY

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JEAN HORN. 5404 CITRUS WHITE CITY.

I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO OPPOSE THIS. NOT ONLY IS THIS GOING TO TAKE AWAY BOAT RAMPS, BUT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT LOCAL BUSINESS AS WELL.

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AND WITH GROWTH IN THIS AREA, IT WILL PUT THE BUSINESSES EVEN FURTHER BEHIND BUT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE GOING TO LOSE 12 A BUOY, BAIT SHOPS AND LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND BARS, SMOKE HOUSES AND TYPE SHOPS. THIS DOESN'T JUST IMPACT WHEN AREA. IT IMPACTS THE ENTIRE WHARF AREA ALL OF SOUTHBRIDGE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME >> MR. MARTIN FOLLOWED BY KEVIN KEENE.

>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS I AM REBOOTING I LIVE AT 2208 WINDING CREEK LN.

IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY, RESIDENT HERE AND TONIGHT THE DEVELOPER WANTS YOU, THE CITY TO GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION BECAUSE OF HIS BAIT AND SWITCH TACTICS. E HAS USED HIS EXTENSIONS AND HE IS ASKING US TO DO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 322 DAYS. THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES ABILITY TO EMPLOY SPRING BOTH ANNOUNCED IT'S NOT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVERY DAY EXPENSES LIKE US. DON'T GET HIGH OFF THE PROMISES OF DOLLARS OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING AND THE SLIPS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RENTED. HIS GOING TO MOVE IT FROM THE FIVE STORIES UP TALLER TO AN UNDETERMINED HEIGHT. HIS WANTS TO GET THE MOST FOR HIS MONEY. THE TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS WILL REMEMBER IT'S A BACKBONE THAT MAKES YOU STAND TALL OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO BEND OVER TO PICK UP THE DOLLAR AND FIND THAT IT'S ONLY A PENNY. THINK ABOUT WHO YOU TRULY REPRESENT.

THE PROPOSAL IS CLIENT BASED AND FOR-PROFIT NOT PUBLIC BUT BASED ON THE ORIGINAL CHARADE AND HIS WAS TO MAKE MONEY FOR HIS GRIP. AND GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS BECAUSE WE GOT AN AMAZON BUILDING SITTING OUT THERE THAT'S EMPTY. IT'S NOT BRINGING IN ANY OF THE DOLLARS THEY SAID IT WAS.

WE ALSO GOT CITY PLAYS AN TRADITION.THOSE WERE ALL THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE AND DONE RIGHT AND YOU GET ANY MONEY FOR IT AND WE HAD TO SELL IT FOR WHAT IT WAS NOT WORTH. WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THIS. SO IN THE END I HOPE THAT YOU PUT YOUR GOOD CONSCIENCE FOR THE PUBLIC AND TAXPAYERS AND DON'T SELL US OUT BECAUSE NOBODY CAN DONATE LAND TO THE CITY IF THEY THINK YOUR FORM OF EMINENT DOMAIN CAN REVERSE IT

>> MR. KANE FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL JENSEN'S. -- JENKINS.

>> GOOD EVENING. KEVIN KEENE 1152 ON THE SIX GENERATION.

THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR ONLY 260 EXTENSIONS TOTALING 120 DAYS THE FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENT PROVIDED THESE EXTENSIONS OR AT LEAST WE THOUGHT AND THEY TOTALED 322 DAYS. THE FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENTS DATED THE CITY HAS A CORRESPONDING RIGHT TO EXTEND THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL. HOWEVER I'M REQUESTING YOU VOTE NO ON THIS EXTENSION AND PUT FORTH THE MOTION TO TERMINATE THIS CONTRACT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

THE BASIS FOR THIS REQUEST IS NOT JUST THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT'S WRITTEN WITHIN THE AGREEMENT, BUT IT HAS TO DO THAT'S BEEN PASTEURIZED.

IF YOU START WITH THE COMMUNITY INPUT SURVEY THAT OVER 600 PEOPLE RESPONDED TO WHEN ASKED WHICH FEATURES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED INTO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF THE TOP CHOICE WAS MARINE RELATED PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USE SUCH AS BOATS, BOAT DOCKS, BOAT RAMPS AND A FISHING PAIR. WHEN ASKED WHAT TYPE OF MARINE RELATED USE IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF, THE TOP THREE ANSWERS WERE PUBLIC BUT RAMPS, RECREATIONAL USE AND A FERRY SERVICE.

WHEN ASKED WHAT EXCITES YOU THE MOST ABOUT THE FUTURE OF FISHERMAN'S WHARF AREA, THE TOP ANSWER IS EXPANDED PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT. IT TOP TWO ANSWERS RESTAURANTS AND A BOAT RAMP. FINALLY, WHEN ASKED WHAT IS MISSING FROM THE WATERFRONT AND DOWNTOWN DISTRICT THAT WOULD HELP IT BECOME MORE VIBRANT, OUT OF OVER 630 RESPONSES, NOT ONE MENTIONED A BOAT HOUSE. NOT ONE. ALL RIGHT.

WHAT IT DID OVERWHELMINGLY MENTION WAS RESTAURANTS.IVE US MORE RESTAURANTS, GIVE US PSTOCKS FOR THE VOTERS TO COME IN AND TALK AND EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS.

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THERE ARE NINE ISSUES IN THAT EMAIL +3 ADDITIONAL ISSUES SO ABOUT A DOZEN ISSUES.

THE CITY STAFF IS RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT NOT TO PROCEED UNTIL EXTERNAL ASPECTS IMPACTING THE PROJECT SUCH AS THE NEW BOAT RAMP SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS AND THE PARCEL CONTROLS ARE RESOLVED. JUST REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL IN 2008.

ALL RIGHT? MARCH 15 THROUGH THE 21ST PARTICIPANTS EXPRESSED CONSISTENT IDEAS THAT PRESERVE AND ENHANCE BOATING, FISHING, AND OTHER MARINE RELATED USES

AND EXPRESS CONSISTENT -- >> THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

MICHAEL JENKINS. >> HOW ARE YOU? >> I THINK WE ARE GOOD

>> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, NICE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU >> SET YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD

>> MICHAEL DINKINS FEBRUARY 2, 2004 FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. I RECOMMEND THE TRUST WE OWN THE 12 A BUOY PROPERTY. I OFFICIALLY PROTEST THE EVALUATION RESULTS CONDUCTED IN OCTOBER 2020. PRIMARY EVALUATIONS AND IN FEBRUARY 2021.

FINAL EVALUATIONS FOR THE RF 2 2023 FISHERMAN'S WHARF PROJECT. INCONSISTENCIES ARE PRESENT IN THE EVALUATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMENTS PROVIDED BY THE EVALUATORS.

AS THEY WOULD APPLY TO THE ORIGINAL CRA SCOPE. ALL MATHEMATICAL ERRORS ARE PRESENT IN THE SCORING. WHICH IS, IN FACT, CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO PARTICIPATED FROM RANKING HIGHEST TO THE LOWEST SCORES. THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THE VALUES WERE CHANGED OR OTHERWISE WRITTEN OVER TO CREATE LARGER SCORE VALUES AND SPECIFIC CRITERIA CATEGORIES. WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PICK WE WENT THROUGH THESE FOR TWO DAYS. AND REFERENCING THESE SCORES AND AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THESE IT SAYS KEEP IN MIND THAT ALL SCORES AND COMMENTS BECOME A PART OF THE SOLICITATION FILE AND ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC INFORMATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A REASONABLE, RATIONAL, AND CONSISTENT BASIS FOR THEIR SCORES.

AND BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN THEM TO THE PURCHASING REPRESENTATIVE, CITY COMMISSION OR JUDGE IN THE EVENT OF A PROTEST. I'M OFFICIALLY PROTESTING THIS.

WE HAVE PLACES HERE WHETHER NUMBERS WERE CHANGED. 12 TO 14.

FROM 11 TO 15. WE ONLY GOT THREE OTHER PEOPLE WHO DID THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OTHER TWO ARE BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO HAVE A COURT LOOK AT THIS, AND I WANT YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT WHEN THIS WAS PACKED.

HOW THEY GOT IT FROM LAST TO 1ST AND GET THIS PROJECT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

ALSO, I WANT YOU TO DENY THIS EXTENSION. THIS IS NOT EVEN THE SAME PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED. THIS THING HAS CHANGED SO MANY TIMES WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. LAST TIME I HEARD THERE'S EVEN A FOUR FERRIS WHEEL GOING AND SO WHO KNOWS. THE BOAT HOUSE, I REMEMBER IT WAS GOING TO BE FIVE AND NOW IT'S 11 STORIES. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? NOBODY WANTS AN 11 STORY BOATHOUSE ESPECIALLY FOR 240 SOMETHING ALITE PEOPLE AND CUT ALL THE LOCAL PEOPLE FROM USING THIS PLACE. WE ARE NOT FOR THAT. I COULD SELL MY PROPERTY -- I HAD TO DEVELOPERS WANTING TO BUY IT THIS WAY. I'M NOT CUTTING THE LOCAL

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

IT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE SIX IF FISHERMAN'S WHARF WAS GOING TO BE REPLACED THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA >> ANY ITEM ANY COMMISSIONER

WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL -- WHAT

ITEM NUMBER IS IT 11 B. >> IS VERY MOTION FOR THE NEXT CONSENT AGENDA

>> I MAKE A MOTION FOR 11 A AND 11 C >> CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE.

[b. Approval of Third Amendment to Agreement for Purchase and Development of Fisherman's Wharf to provide additional time to cure title and survey objections with a new deadline of September 1, 2023.]

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2023. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> AND JUST IN REFERENCE TO THIS AGREEMENT AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT, COULD YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND AND FOR THE PUBLIC AND WHERE THE CITY COMMISSION'S ROLE IS IN ADDITION TO THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WHICH WE HAVE A HAT THAT WE WERE THERE TOO, SO THIS IS TO DIFFERENT APPROVAL PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT PART OF IT IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN AND ALSO, A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE AND

WHERE WE ARE TODAY, JUST HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT. >> YES, SIR.

IF YOU DON'T MIND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WHO WILL FOCUS YOUR BACKGROUND AND HISTORY ON THE PROJECTS, AND IT WILL EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY WITH REGARD TO CITY AND FPRA AND DEVELOPER RESPONSIBILITIES.

>> MANOR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THANK YOU. >> I SEE IT HERE.

>> A QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE TIMELINE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

>> PUT A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU. >> OKAY. THE TIMELINE.

BACK IN JUNE 2020 WE ISSUED THIS RFQ NP. SO THE QUEUE WOULD BE FOR QUALIFICATIONS. WE ACCEPTED ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS, QUALIFIED THESE APPLICANTS AND ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AT THE REQUEST OF I THINK THE FPRA BOARD AND YOU DO WHERE TWO DIFFERENT HATS SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD IS CHARGED WITH REDEVELOPING OUR COMMUNITY AND THE CRA AS A WHOLE AND THIS IS A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT. BACK IN JUNE 2020 WE ISSUED THE RFP SO THOSE QUALIFIED PROPOSERS, WE EXECUTED THE PURCHASE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH PIERCE ONE MARINA IN AUGUST 2021. THIS WENT BEFORE THE SPORT AND ALSO THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD. WE HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY EXECUTED TWO AMENDMENTS IN THE AGREEMENT, AND REASON FOR THE CITY'S OBLIGATIONS TO CURE THE TITLE OBJECTIONS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY. THE EXTENSION APPEAR HERE FOR TONIGHT IS FOR THE CITY.

SO THIS GLOBAL CHART, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS ON MANY OCCASIONS WITH KINGS LANDING AND FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND IT KIND OF TAKES THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PUTS IT INTO STACKABLE CONTENT THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND SO WE HAVE THE BLUE BUBBLES THAT ARE PIERCE ONE'S OBLIGATIONS BLUE BELL WOULD BE THE CITY'S APPLICATIONS AND CREAM WOULD BE BOTH OF OURS. THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD WAS 120 DAYS LONG FROM THE EXECUTION DATE OF THE AGREEMENT WHICH WAS BACK IN AUGUST 2021 THAT'S ENDED.

THE APPROVAL PERIOD, HOWEVER, WITH AND EXTENDING BECAUSE OF THE TITLE OBJECTIONS WHICH I WILL LET YOU IN A MOMENT. IF WE EXTEND OR APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT TONIGHT, THE APPROVAL PERIOD WILL GO UNTIL SEPTEMBER 12 OF 2023. SO THE YELLOW OBLIGATIONS ARE CITIES. THIS IS OUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE FPRA, SO IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO HANDLE THE REZONING, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND

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THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT YELLOW CIRCLE AROUND THE APPROVAL PERIOD.

THAT'S ALL WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO THE AGREEMENT.

ALSO IN THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY'S OBLIGATION IS TO GIVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY PARCELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY USED FOR PUBLIC PARKING. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM THE DEVELOPER IN THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT AND THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO GO ABOUT THE PARKING ON THAT SIDE.

WE HAVEN'T INITIATED THAT YET EITHER. THE SITE PLAN DOCUMENT IS PIERCE'S OBLIGATION. THE AGREEMENT FOR BOTH OF OURS. THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO APPROVE A MUTUALLY AGREED-UPON BUT RAMPING LOCATION. IF YOU RECALL AND MAY RECEIVE THIS PROPOSAL BACK IN 2020, THE BOAT RAMP IS GOING TO BE RETAINED.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PROPOSAL DOCUMENT AND THAT'S WHAT THEY CEMENTED.

AFTER WE WENT TO THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, IT WAS DETERMINED THERE WERE TOO MANY COMPETING USES THE BOAT RAMP WOULD NEED TO BE ELSEWHERE. THE CITY MAY TURN THE AGREEMENT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE HANDLED BY THE DEVELOPER, THE RELOCATION, THE COST OF THE RELOCATION, AS WELL AS THE REPAYMENT OF THE GRANT THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY ECEIVED TO IMPROVE THAT PROGRAM. SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO AGREE UPON WHATEVER THAT BOAT RAMP IS GOING, HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST, AND THAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE PROGRAMS ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

HOPEFULLY ST. LUCIE COUNTY CAN GET SOMETHING OFF THE GROUND WITH HARBOUR POINTE PART ONE OF THE COMMENTER'S POINTS EARLIER. FISHERMAN'S WARF IMPROVEMENTS, PEERS WILL IMPROVE THAT ROUTE AND FISHERMAN'S WARF, THE ACTUAL STREET, THAT WOULD BE THERE OBLIGATION.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN ALL THE APPROVALS FROM AGENCIES TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT AND ULTIMATELY WE WOULD CLOSE ON THIS PROPERTY. WE WOULD SELL THE PROPERTY TO PIERCE ONE MARINA. THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE IN THE AGREEMENT.

WE ARE STILL IN THE APPROVAL PERIOD AND WORKING ON THE CITY'S AND TO REMEDY THESE TITLE OBJECTIONS. ONE OF WHICH BEING THE REVERSIONARY RIGHTS WITH THE STATE ON THE PARCEL IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. IT GOES -- EXTENDS SOUTH BEYOND SEAWAY DRIVE -- DRIVING INCLUDES THE PARK AND OUR ATTORNEY IS WORKING TO THAT.

THE FISHERMAN'S WARF BOAT MAP AND BASIN PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY THAT THEY COME BEFORE YOU BACK IN NOVEMBER. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY THROUGH THAT AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THE BEST PROCESSES TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS OF THE TWO OBJECTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.>> MR. JOHNSON, DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?

>> SPEAKER: I THINK I'M PRETTY CLEAR ON THE DATES AND THE TIMELINES.I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD IN THE PUBLIC AND THOSE THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK WITH ANY REAL ESTATE AGREEMENT AND MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THE RESEARCH OF THE TITLE.

WE ARE DEALING WITH A NUMBER OF THINGS. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE DOT BECAUSE IT'S A STATE ROAD NEXT TO IT. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PARCELS AND LAND TRANSFERS THAT HAPPEN OVER TIME. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT NO SOUTHBRIDGE BEING BUILT IN 1974 WASN'T HERE BUT I'M HERE NOW AND I'VE USED THE BRIDGE.

IT WAS RELOCATED. THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY AS IT WAS SPOKEN TONIGHT AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF CONVEY THAT INFORMATION CLEARLY ON THE RECORD AND SO THAT IT'S OUT THERE THAT THE CITY HAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE HAVE PARTS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND PARTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY SO I HEARD YOU SAY ALL OF THIS THINGS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC INCLUDING THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S HERE TONIGHT SO THEY KNOW YOU'RE BEING TRANSPARENT AND IT'S CLEAR AND THIS IS A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.

A VISION THAT WAS PORTRAYED AND TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY STARTING 15 YEARS AGO AND INCLUDING AS RECENT AS ALMOST 6 YEARS AGO. WHEN THE REPORT WITH THE COUNTY TO DO THE SECOND FISHERMAN'S WHARF? WAS IT 2017 RATING?

>> WHEN NEEDED THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS. WE HAD ANOTHER PHASE OF THE CHARRETTE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE DATES FOR ME AND WANT TO HURT MY FELLOW COMMISSION AS TO SAY AT THIS POINT. I THINK THERE'S MORE WORK TO DO AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINS? >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.I WANTED TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. IF WE GO BACK TO THE SPRING WITH YOUR BUBBLES, IT'S THE CITY THAT'S REQUESTING THE EXTENSION?

>> THAT'S RIGHT >> IT'S THE CITY. WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILGENCE AND CONTAIN OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO THE SCREEN PART WHERE IT SAYS THIS PROGRAM. WE CAN'T GET TO THAT GREEN BUBBLE UNTIL WE DO OUR DUE

DILIGENCE ON THE TWO YELLOW BUBBLES. >> MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER GAINS, THAT'S CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW IF DUE DILIGENCE IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT WE STILL HAVE OBLIGATIONS WE NEED TO MEET.

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HOW IS NOT GOING TO LOOK. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT >> OKAY.

JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR, IT WASN'T THE DEVELOPER COMING IN AND ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION TO DO WHATEVER. IT'S THE CITY COMING FROM US TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION TO CARRY

WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME. >> YES, SIR. THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

TIME AND WE COULD WORK IT OUT WITH THE STATE JUST THAT >> SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF

WORKING WITH THE STATE AND WITH THE COUNTY? >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU.

I WENT TO PICK UP WHERE COMMISSIONER GAINS LEFT OFF. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I THINK THAT'S ONE PIVOTAL AND CRUCIAL PART TO THIS.

BUT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THIS TOO. BECAUSE IN THE BLUE BUBBLE NEXT TO THE YELLOW BUBBLE IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL BOX.ND WE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAVE NOT YET SEEN THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR IT, RIGHT?OU HAVE NOT

>> TO THE PUBLIC AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUE, MR. JOHNSON, YOU KNOW, YOUR CITY COMMISSION IS EMPOWERED TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THE PUBLIC. I LISTENED TO THINGS AND ALLEGATIONS TONIGHT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.

THAT HEIGHT LIMITS TO THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE AND WHAT CAN BE BUILT HERE.

THERE ARE EXCRUCIATING EXCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE OR CORPORATIONS WOULD HAVE TO GO 2 TO EXCEED THAT. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY OF THAT.

AND I NEED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE TIME HE WAY AND ON STUFF LIKE THAT ONE MAY HAVE AN ACTUAL SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF US THAT TELLS US WHAT IS TRYING TO OR BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT ON THIS SITE. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REAL CLEAR, THAT NONE OF THAT HAS COME BEFORE US. SO SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS I HEARD TONIGHT A LITTLE ALARMING. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE AND HER FATHER WORKED THAT DOCK BACK IN THE DAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCESS AND PUBLIC ACCESS. I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THERE WERE SOME ALLEGATIONS MADE AND I WILL GET WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS AND I THINK WE'LL NEED TO DO DUE DILIGENCE WITH THAT. I TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES AND MAKES AN ALLEGATION ABOUT THE PROCESS I'M INVOLVED IN THAT I APPROVED AS A MEMBER WHICH THEN CAME TUESDAY CITY COMMISION. SO THAT'S WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE PUBLIC, AND ARE GOING TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ALLEGED STUFF THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED FROM THIS DIET FROM THE PODIUM DO MY DUE DILIGENCE THERE AS WELL. AND I WELCOME MEETINGS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE PARTIES THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN. AGAIN, I HAVE TO REITERATE WE ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, TO DO A BUSINESS WITH ANYTHING WE HAVE TO GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER AND THAT'S A PROCESS WHICH WOULD EXTEND TONIGHT TO ALLOW FOR THE PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE, DAP AND THE REST OF THEM TO SAY IT'S A CLEAR TITLE. YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD OR IT'S NOT A CLEAR TITLE AND WE KNOW IF YOUR TITLE IS NOT CLEAR YOU CAN'T TRANSFER NOTHING.

>> ANYBODY ELSE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THEY DID THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY HELPFUL. ON THE NEWEST MEMBER APPEAR. THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE 11TH HOUR BASICALLY HAVING HAD SAT ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SIX YEARS.

IT IS CONFIRMED NO PLAN HAS COME FORWARD TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

SO THAT IS STILL PREMATURE AND IN THE PROCESS AND I BELIEVE THE CITY'S POSITION IS THESE ITEMS NEED TO BE CURED POTENTIALLY BEFOREHAND. AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM SINCE SITTING IN THIS CHAIR HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF AND DISCUSS ALL OF THE ISSUES PERTAINING TO THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S COMPLICATED TO SAY THE LEAST.

AND HAVING BEEN IN THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BUSINESS FOR 40+ YEARS UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES, THE CITY NEEDS TO MOVE TO THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND PROTECT THE WRITTEN OBLIGATIONS MADE BY THE CITY. SO CERTAINLY, I CAN SEE WITH THIS REQUEST IS COMING FROM. HAVING SAID THAT, THERE APPEARS AND I WANT TO CONFIRM THIS THAT THERE IS A CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR THIS PROPERTY A SITE DEDICATION FOR 25 YEARS TO MAINTAIN BOAT RAMPS. AND THAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE. THAT AGREEMENT IS STILL IN PLACE AND HAS BEEN CONTRACTUAL DUTY CONTRACTED OUT. THE SECOND OBSERVATION THAT I HAVE IS THE STATE HAPPINESS [INDISCERNIBLE] PROVISION IN THEIR TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY. AND IF IT'S NOT HELD THE PUBLIC YOU STAMPED OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE

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THIS EXTENSION AS COMMISSIONER GAINS HAS POINTED OUT I AGREE WITH HIS ASSESSMENT IS THAT FOR THE CITY TO COMPLETE ITS DUE DILIGENCE AND BEHELD AND I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT IS MUTE ON THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO MOVE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES FORWARD.

SO I BELIEVE THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS HERE THAT NEED RESOLUTION.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AS WELL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS THE CASE WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT STORIES SPREADING AROUND TOWN. IT'S REALLY ALMOST BIZARRE TO HEAR SOME OF THE CLAIMS BEING MADE. MY FINAL POINT HERE IS OF HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IN ITS ENTIRETY THAT THE CITY ENTERED INTO SO I CN HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S OBLIGATIONS ARE AND FDD I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.

I DON'T PLAY ONE ON TV. SO I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE REPLACED THOSE BOAT RAMPS WITH LIKE KIND PROGRAMS MY QUESTION IS AS OF RIGHT NOW THERE HAS BEEN NO PROPOSITION PUT FORWARD FOR LOCATION, TIMELINE, CREATION OF PROGRAMS.

IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? >> THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS, BUT THERE'S NO

PLAN AS OF YET >> SO AS OF RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO PLAN FOR REPLACEMENT BOAT RAMPS. I'M DONE. THANK YOU

>> FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE AND SPOKE TONIGHT AND YOU'VE BEEN FAITHFUL AND I APPRECIATE IT. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE BECAUSE YOU REMIND US ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THE WATER IS TO OUR CITY.

TWO YEARS AGO WE CELEBRATED THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MAN-MADE AND LET AND WHEN THE INLET CLOSED 100 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NO BOATING, FISHING, NOTHING.

THE BOATING AND FISHING AND RECREATING AN FT. PIERCE GUIDE FOR 10 YEARS.

SO THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE WANT TO DO TO HURT THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUT A FEW THINGS ON THE RECORD. WHEN THIS RFP WAS APPROVED, THERE WERE TWO BOAT RAMPS.

THERE WERE TWO BOAT RAMS IN THE PROPOSAL. THERE WAS ALSO A PROPOSAL NOT TO BUY THE LAND. AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A MOVING TARGET.

AND SLOWLY TD SLOWLY, THIS HAS GOTTEN AWAY FROM WHAT WE ORIGINALLY APPROVED.

AND THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME HAPPY. AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS. WAY TOO MANY TO KEEP TRACK OF.

THE COUNTY HAS TO DO THIS, PEERS HAS TO DO THIS, FPRA HAS TO DO THIS, THE CITY HAS TO DO THAT. AND IT IS NO WONDER THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND OR CONTRACT WITH THAT. I CAN HARDLY TRACK WITH THAT MYSELF.

AND WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER EXTENSION BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TWO EXTENSIONS IN THE STATE IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US AN ANSWER. IN THE STATE HASN'T GIVEN US AN ANSWER.

OBVIOUSLY, THE STATE IS WRESTLING WITH THIS. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING CONTRACTUALLY THAT WOULD VIOLATE OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO THE PERSON WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH. I WANT TO PROTECT THE CITY AND PROTECT THE TAXPAYER. BUT I ALSO WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I AM NOT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU RELOCATE A PROGRAM. I DON'T HOW YOU DO THAT.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE IS EFFORTS AFTER BEING MADE BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING RUMORS COMING IN THAT THIS ONE IS TALKING TO THIS ONE AND IT'S GOING TO BE HERE AND DO THIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HISTORICAL OR NOT, BUT I DO HEAR THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TOCOME HERE AND I AGREE WITH THAT. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, IS THE EXTENSION

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>> THANK YOU, MS. ERLANG >> SO THE EXTENSION IS TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THE TITLE ISSUES. THERE ARE MULTIPLE TITLE ISSUES IN THE CITY AS MS. STATED HAS THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE CONTRACT TO EXERCISE REASONABLE CARE IN CLEARING THOSE ISSUES. AND THAT'S A PROCESS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH AT THIS TIME. SO THERE IS A REVERTER IN FAVOR OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO GRANTED THE CITY PARCEL TO THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, AND PURSUANT TO OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, WE HAVE MADE APPLICATION TO THE STATE TO REMOVE THAT REVERTER.

THERE IS A PROCESS THE STATE FOLLOWS AND THEY HAVE AN INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS AND THAT INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS IS ONGOING, AND AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE UNDER THE AGREEMENT.

AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST ONGOING. SECONDARY TO THAT, WE HAVE -- THERE'S AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT RAISED AS A TITLE OBJECTION, AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, THE FPRA AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND THAT REFERENCES THE ACTUAL PROGRAM AT THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW. AS PART OF THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, THE CITY AGREED TO DEDICATE THE BOAT RAMP FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN ORDER TO ALLOW ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO BEING REIMBURSED FUNDING THROUGH GRANTS. SO WE COMPLIED WITH THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND WE RECORDED A SITE DEDICATION FOR A PERIOD OF 25 YEARS AND IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE MARKETABLE TITLES TO THIS PROPERTY, THAT ISSUE HAS TO BE CLEARED UP.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW THOSE ARE ALL OF THE MOVING PARTS, AND AS I'VE STATED, WE HAVE EXERCISED DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO CLEAR THESE ISSUES, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE HANDS OF THIRD PARTIES, AND IT TAKES TIME TO WORK THROUGH THEM. THIS AGREEMENT HAS A LOT OF

MOVING PARTS AS YOU STATED. >> AND THEN THERE IS BEYOND WHAT YOU SAID.

THERE'S MOVING PARTS IN TERMS OF PARKING AND MOVING PARTS IN TERMS -- THE THINGS THAT WE EXPRESSED WHEN WE FIRST PROVED THIS BECAUSE I HAD THE DRAWING HERE ON WHAT WE APPROVED.

I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. AND I HAVE ALSO IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS AND THINKING WE ARE GOING TO NEED HENRY KISSINGER TO GET THIS THING SETTLED. SO I THINK -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE TIME WE ARE GOING TO TAKE TO TALK TO THIS ONE AND GET THIS ONE'S INPUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO ANYWHERE AND I DO NOT WANT -- I DO NOT WANT TO AND ANYWAY NOT FULFILL OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, BUT I AM HAVING SERIOUS DOUBTS IF THIS IS EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL OF THE MOVING PARTS PUT IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND MOVE

FORWARD. >> I WOULD ADD ONE FURTHER COMMENT THAT I THINK OF THIS AS A BIFURCATED SCENARIO. THE CITY HAS A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO PERFORM ITS DUE DILIGENCE. THAT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION SUPERSEDES THIS CONCEPT IN THE THEORY OF THE PLAN ITSELF AND THAT'S WHY ASKED SPECIFICALLY THAT THESE PROVISIONS ARE IN PLACE AND THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THIS AGREEMENT IS CHANGED OR MODIFIED SO I'M TRYING TO BREAK DOWN THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS ARE THE QUALITY OF THE PLAN. THE QUALITY OF THE PLAN IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION HASN'T GONE TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SO THE ISSUE COMES DOWN TO PROTECTING THE CITY'S INTEREST.

I FOCUS COMPLETELY ON THAT. HENCE THE REASON FOR THE QUESTIONS EARLIER YOU COULD BE PBUILDING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW. THE PLAN HAS CHANGED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. I FEEL IS THAT THE CITY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD TO MOVE THAT FORWARD PICK REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IF THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PLAN IS IRRELEVANT AT THIS POINT. YOU'VE HEARD MY CONCERNS VOICED AS TO THE RELATIVE MEAT OF THE CONTRACT. THE LEGALESE IS ALMOST

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HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT THE INTENTION WAS BUT THAT'S THE PART OF MY DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT.

THE DISCUSSION IS THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD HAVING SAID THAT I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IS IT POSSIBLE WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE THAT A SHORTER TIMELINE POTENTIALLY SO WE CAN MONITOR THIS MORE CLOSELY BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AGAIN POSSIBLY 60 OR 90 DAYS TO SEE THESE ITEMS CAN BE CARRIED? I DON'T THINK IT'S A HERCULEAN TASK THAT THE STATE IS GOING TO HAND DOWN A DECISION. IT'S GOING TO BE YES OR NO FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE

>> WE HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHEN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE EXCEPT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION RIGHT NOW. SO HAVE A FEELING THEY DON'T WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME. THEY FOCUS ON ONE THING

>> IS A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION IS BEING SUGGESTED >> YES, SIR

>> DID THAT COME THROUGH JOINT CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU AND THE PROPOSED MARZO IS THAT THE

CITY'S DECISION TO SAY WE FEEL THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME >> IT WAS A DECISION MADE JOINTLY BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSED BUYER AND I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO GIVE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAN WE HOPED WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HAVE

THESE ISSUES RESOLVED. >> EXTENSIONS CAN BE GRANTED AT THE CONSENT OF THE CITY COMMISSION. I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT ON A SHORTER TIMELINE THE WAY THIS IS REVISITED CONSISTENTLY BY THIS BODY AND GET A LITMUS TEST AS TO WHERE WE ARE AS IT'S MOVING FORWARD. THIS THEY COME STAY WITH THE DECISION ULTIMATELY EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. THE DEDICATION AGREEMENT IS ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IN THE COUNTY ISSUE IS A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE. I WOULD BE HESITANT TO THROW A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION AND SAY LOOK, LET'S STAY ON TASK AND LET'S DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO PROTECT THE CITY'S INTEREST LET'S GRANT EXTENSIONS AS NEEDED.

>> MADAME MAYOR, UNCOMFORTABLE WITH STAFF'S ABILITY TO SAY SIX MONTHS.

WE ARE ALL LOOKING INTO A CRYSTAL BALL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTIES GOING THROUGH WHAT THE STATE IS GOING THROUGH. THESE ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE BEYOND OUR CONTROL I THINK WITH A PUT DOWN AS WE MAY COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND STILL NOT HAVE AN ANSWER WHICH MEANS WE MAY PHAVE TO EXTEND AGAIN. I THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A THIRD PARTY HERETO EVEN TRYING

GET AN ANSWER TO MAKE A DECISION >> THERE'S A LOT OF PARTIES INVOLVED > AND I GOT TO SAY THIS. WE ALL GOT A RENDERING OF PERHAPS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WE BOUGHT A CONCEPT OF PERHAPS WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT MAY LOOK LIKE AND THAT'S WHY I CAME DOWN AND AM CAREFUL TO SAY THIS WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A SITE PLAN. THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT CAME TO THE FPRA, AND I GO ON SITE PLANS. I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT. NOT AN ENGINEER.

WHEN A SITE PLAN COMES WE HAVE SPENT A NUMBER OF HOURS APPEAR GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH DEVELOPERS ABOUT ROADWAY AND TRAIN, BUS STOPS NOT BEING -- BASED ON WHAT THEY PUT ON THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS AND I KNOW WE MADE HIS DECISION BASED ON A RENDERING THAT WE BROUGHT INTO REVISION CONCEPT THAT WE WANTED TO SEE. I SAW THE SAME THINGS AND I'M CONCERNED ALSO BUT UNTIL I GET AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT THAT'S COMING THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND WILL GO TO THE PROCESS THROUGH TECHNICAL REVIEW AND CODE AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND ALL OF THAT HOLDING COMMENT UNTIL I GET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. I HEAR THE RUMORS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE ABOUT WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DOWN THERE, BUT I NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM WHAT I'M FEELING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE AGAIN, I SAT HERE WITH YOU AND SAW THAT I BOUGHT INTO THE VISION, AND I THINK THAT MAY BE OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY MAY HAVE SEEN THAT. SO THAT HAS CHANGED FROM THE INITIAL RENDERING THAT WE SAW.

BUT WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT WOMAN GET A SITE PLAN >> ABSOLUTELY WE WILL BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE APPROVED THE PROPOSAL OVER OTHER PROPOSALS BASED ON WHAT WE SAW.

AND THAT ISN'T ALWAYS THE SITE PLAN. WE GET LOTS OF SITE PLANS IN

HERE THAT HAVE NOT GOTTEN THROUGH RFPS. >> ANY MORE RIGHTS WE DO A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF INSTANCES WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONCEPT PLAN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DRIVERS AND THE COMPONENTS OF THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. MANY TIMES FOR ALL THAT ARE

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SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE PROTECT OUR CITY AND HOW DO WE GROW IT AT THE SAME TIME.

WHAT HAPPENS WITH SEAWAY DRIVE IN THE BRIDGE WHEN IT'S TIME TO REPLACE THAT PAIN? THEY HAVE THE LUXURY OF SOME LAND TO MOVE ABOUT WHEN THEY BUILT A NEW BRIDGE.

THUS THE SECOND TIME I MENTIONED THE BRIDGE BUT THE MOVING PARTS OF LOOKING AT THE TITLE WORK IN THE MOVING PARTS OF LOOKING AT ROADWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY IS IN THE LOOKING ABOUT RAMS. I SPENT A FEW HOURS ON THE PHONE WITH THE FOLKS THAT WERE DOING THE PORT MASTER PLAN FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I CALLED THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND CALLED THEM BACK AND TALK TO HIM AGAIN AND THEY SAID WE GOT A PROPOSAL OF TWO PROGRAMS TO REPLACE OTHER BOAT RAMPS OR MAYBE FOUR AND I SAID HOW ABOUT 12.

HOW ABOUT PARKING FOR 150 BOAT TRAILERS AND THEY SAID NO. AND I AM BEING SERIOUS.

AND I SAID FORT PIERCE IS GROWING. AND BY THE WAY, YOU'RE TALKING TO A GUY ON THE PHONE IN THE ABOUT RAMP IS MY FAVORITE BOAT RAMP AND FORT PIERCE.

SO I'M REALLY NOT THINKING ABOUT 10 OR 12 BOAT RAMPS? AND SO I GOT SOME COMMON SENSE IN ME AND SAID WHAT ABOUT SIX AND LET'S STILL PART 100+ BOATS IN TRUCKS AND TRAILER.

SO ALL THESE PARTS AND PIECES ARE STILL MOVING AND I ASKED MYSELF IF NOT NOW WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PARAMETERS OF PROPERTY LINES, GROWTH, BECAUSE PART OF THIS IS THOSE THIRD PARTIES THAT AS YOUR CITY COMMISSIONERS AND APPEAR I LOOKED AND I SAY MY GOODNESS. THERE ARE 12 PARKING SPACES IN THE PARKING LOT. MAYBE 13 OR MAYBE 14 OR 15 IF YOU KEEP ON PARKING BEYOND THE WHITE LINES. SO IF THE COUNTY OR IF SOME OTHER DEVELOPER COMES IN AND STARTS TO DO SOMETHING ALONG SECOND STREET IN THIS ZONE, WE NOW HAVE OFFICIALLY 12 PARKING FACES. THEY GO AWAY I DON'T THINK WERE GOING TO DO IT.

I'M ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. LET'S CONTROL OUR DESTINY A LITTLE BIT.

IN ADDITION TO FINDING OUT THE DETAILS, IN ADDITION TO IS THIS THE RIGHT SPOT FOR A HISTORIC BOAT RAMP TO REMAIN THROUGH ETERNITY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER SO I WANT TO FIND OUT THE DETAILS, AND THIS AGREEMENT AND DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD IN THIS CONTRACT IS PUSHING US TO FIND OUT SOME ANSWERS FOR ME AS A DECISION-MAKER.

FOR ME IN MY NEGOTIATION AND MY PARTNERSHIP AND MY CALLS TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY COMMISSIONER SAYING WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WE HAVE 20 ACRES AT HARBOR POINT PARK AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GROW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOATING COMMUNITY? SO WHILE THERE ARE THE PARAMETERS LIKE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM MAYOR HAS SAID, THE SITE PLAN, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT WHILE IT'S HARD TO SEPARATE THE TWO AS A DECISION-MAKER HAVE TO SEPARATE THE TWO. I HAVE TO. BECAUSE TONIGHT I'M LOOKING AT A CONTRACT THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO FULFILL SOME OBLIGATIONS STAY AND I WANT THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. EVEN IF IT WERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL TO THE CONTRACTOR THE SALE OR A SUCCESSFUL NO TO THE CONTRACT AND IT GOES AWAY, WE STILL HAVE TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE RESIDENCE WHETHER COUNTY OR CITY INFORMATION THAT IS PRUDENT TO FISHERMAN'S WHARF AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO GROW FORT PIERCE.

SO COMMISSIONER, I HEAR YOUR REQUEST FOR LESS TIME AND WHILE WE CAN COME BACK TO EVALUATE THAT AFTER 90 OR 120 DAYS I THINK HE SAID 60 OR 90 BUT IN YOUR QUESTIONING OF STAFF I HEARD THEM SAY THEY TALKED ABOUT BOTH PARTIES AGREED TO IT.

SO I WOULD HATE TO SEND AWAY FROM THIS MEETING ANOTHER TALK TO WHERE IT COMES BACK TO US FOR A DIFFERENT NUMBER. DO YOU SEE ROOM GOING WITH DOCUMENT

>> I DO AND HAVE AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION TO THE TIMELINE WE WILL GET TO BUT I WOULD BE SATISFIED WITH WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST NEXT. THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE AND SPEAKING TO US FOR CALLING AND EMAILING ME, FOR PUTTING IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FOR PUTTING

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WE'VE GOT BROAD SHOULDERS AND IT'S ALL RIGHT. YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AN THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. AND I APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND WE ARE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT WHERE FORT PIERCE IS GOING TO BE AND WHERE IT MAY NOT GO OR AT LEAST HOW WE PLAN FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS. THAT'S THE WAY MY PLANNING -- WHEN IT GOES ON I'M THINKING ABOUT THE DEER PLANNING. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM HIM

>> IT'S IN THE MIX OF DISCUSSION. I WAS PROPOSING A SHORTER-TERM EXTENSION SIMPLY BECAUSE I WANT THIS BODY COMPLETELY IN THE LOOP ON ALL INFORMATION THAT COMES FORWARD AS WE HAVE OUTLINED. NUMEROUS PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS TRANSACTION AND I BELIEVE WE CONTINUOUSLY RECEIVE THIS FLOW OF INFORMATION SO MANY INFORMATION THAT COMES IN IS PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION IN AND THE FPRA AND ALL THE DIFFERENT HATS WE LEARN I KNOW THAT'S THE POLICY REGARDLESS THAT THAT HAPPENS BUT THAT ADDRESSES MY CONCERN OF KEEPING IT A SHORT-TERM TRIGGER. I JUST DON'T WANT THIS THING TO KIND OF GO OFF ON ITS OWN FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO COME BACK AND WE ARE DEALING WITH THE SAME THING. THERE'S BEEN NO ADDITIONAL PROGRESS MADE IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER. IF WE ARE KEPT IN THE INFORMATION LOOP, AT THE COMPARABLE WE ARE GOING TO KNOW PRECISELY WHERE THINGS ARE AT AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME WHEN THERE ANY CHANGES AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS FLYING AROUND.I'D BE

COMFORTABLE WITH THAT >> AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M INTERESTED IN MORE EXTENSIONS.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ANY MORE EXTENSIONS >> COMMISSIONER, I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TO THE PUBLIC, I'VE READ ALL THE EMAILS, I READ ALL OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. I KNOW MOST OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, I HEARD SOME NUANCE TINNITUS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, BUT THIS IS HOW I BREAK THIS DOWN TONIGHT. I LOVE THIS TRUCK. WE ARE -- AND I KNOW MY CITY ATTORNEY HATES WHEN I SAY THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT IT ON TONIGHT BUT I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON. WE ARE IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

WE HAVE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH A POTENTIAL BUYER. AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, THE CITY HAS CERTAIN DUTIES TO PERFORM. IF WE DON'T, WE WILL BE IN BREACH OF THE CONTRACT. SO TO MAKE THAT SIMPLE FOR EVERYBODY THAT IS LOOKING OR PLISTENING, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE TWO YELLOW CIRCLES.

NOTHING CAN HAPPEN UNTIL THESE TWO YELLOW CIRCLES TURN GREEN. THINK OF IT THAT WAY.

UNLESS THE STATE COMES IN AND SAYS IT'S A GO, OR THE COUNTY COMES IN AND SAYS IT'S A GO, THEN WE MOVE ON TO SUBMITTAL. UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, EVERYTHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS NOT HAPPENING. SO AS A CITY, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, IF I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTRACT, I'M TELLING MY LAWYER TO MAKE A PHONE CALL TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. ALL OF MY COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE TO FULFILL OUR DUTIES AS PART OF THIS CONTRACT THAT WE ENTERED INTO. I DON'T CARE WHAT WE HAD ON THIS BOARD OR THE OTHER BOARD, WE ENTERED INTO THE CONTRACT. NOW, THE ARTIST DRAWING OR WHATEVER, I HAVE IT IN MY OFFICE. I SAW IT SO I UNDERSTAND.

BUT AT THIS POINT, TO ME, UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE STATE AND UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE COUNTY, NOTHING CAN HAPPEN. NOTHING CAN HAPPEN. AND WE MIGHT BE SITTING HERE FIGHTING FOR ANOTHER HOUR AND WE COULD GET A CALL TOMORROW AND THE STATE COULD BE LIKE NO WE ARE NOT DOING IT OR THE STATE CAN SAY YES AND THEN WE MOVE ON, AND THEN WE ARE GOING

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THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT GAME. THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THESE TWO CIRCLES -- TRIED TO MAKE THESE TWO CIRCLES GREEN. THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION.

THAT'S WHAT THIS EXTENSION IS FOR. TRUST ME.

I'M BORN AND RAISED IN FORT PIERCE. I KNOW ABOUT THE WHARF.

I FISHED OFF OF THE WHARF. SUMMER JOB CATCHING FISH ARE DOING WHATEVER WE HAD TO DO, WHATEVER MONEY WE COULD DO. I UNDERSTAND AND I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING BEFORE I STEP START LETTING OUTSIDERS COME IN, WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE FORT PIERCE FORT PIERCE. THAT'S ME. I'M FROM FORT PIERCE.

FAMILY HERE IN 1932 MY FAMILY'S BEEN HERE SO I AM FROM FORT PIERCE.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT LET'S LET -- LET'S WRAP IT DOWN A TAD BIT AND LET THE CITY DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN WHATEVER ASSET WE GET BACK, ALL NINE OF YOU WHO SPOKE TONIGHT HAVE YOUR PAPERS READY AND COME BACK AND SPEAK AGAIN IF THESE CIRCLES CHANGE AND WE GET TO THE SITE PLAN AND WE GO AND WE TYPE THE SITE PLAN AND MAKE SURE IT'S FOR EVERYBODY AND NOT JUST FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO. I HAVE FAITH IN OUR CITY ATTORNEY. I HAVE FAITH IN OUR EMPLOYEES TO GET ON THE PHONE, CALL TALLAHASSEE. IF WE NEED TO CALL OUR CONGRESSMAN FROM TALLAHASSEE TO SAY WHILE YOU WERE UP THERE ANY MENTION THIS SO WE CAN GET AN ANSWER? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING IT.OU ALREADY KNOW IF I NEED TO BE THE ONE TO SEND IT ACROSS TOWN TO THE COUNTY, I WILL BE THERE -- I WILL BE THAT PERSON THAT GOES DOWN

AUDIO LOST >> BECAUSE I HEARD BOTH SIDES TONIGHT.

I DIDN'T HEAR JUST ONE SIDE. I HEARD BOTH SIDES. LET ME GET TO THAT PART.

LET ME PROTECT THE CITY AND EVERYBODY IN HERE. LET US -- LET THE STAFF AND ATTORNEY TO THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO THIS CONTRACT AND THEN WE COME BACK AND CARE OF AGAIN FOR

THE NEXT ROUND >> CAN ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHICH IS WHEN YOU GET TO THE BLUE THING, WHEN YOU GET TO MAKE ANOTHER DECISION. IN THAT DECISION CAN BE YES AND IT CAN BE NOW. IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL JUST BECAUSE WE GET THROUGH THE

CIRCLES >> I'M LOOKING AT THE BLUE CIRCLE.

I'M LOOKING AT THE BLUE CIRCLE. UNLESS THESE TWO CIRCLES AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.UNLESS THESE DON'T TURN GREEN OR SOME OTHER COLOR, WE DON'T GET TO THE BLUE CIRCLE.

I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME. >> IF I MAY, BOTH OF THE ISSUES NEED TO BE CLEARED.

>> BOTH >> THE BUBBLES ARE CHANGING COLOR.

>> DARN. I WANT THEM TO TURN GREEN. >> WE -- I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT TO SIMPLE FOR EVERYBODY.

FIRST THE YELLOW BUBBLE BEFORE WE EVER GET TO THE BLUE BUBBLE AND IF WE TACKLE THE FIRST BUBBLE WE DON'T TACKLE THE SECOND BUBBLE, THEN WE DON'T GET TO THE BLUE.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO LET'S JUST -- COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ANY PAPERWORK, ANY CHANGES, YOU GUYS SEND IT TO US ANYWAY.

SEND IT TO US AND LET US READ IT AND IF WE HAD TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT ANY NEW CHANGES LET'S COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT AND DO ME ONE FAVOR. YOU KNOW HOW I AM ON NOTICE.

IF WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA -- I KNOW MADAME CLERK, IF YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THERE'S A CHANGE, LET EVERYBODY IN HER NO BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS SIT APPEAR AFTER TODAY AND VOTE ON SOMETHING AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE AND THEN COME BACK AND SAY THEY DIDN'T

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IF WE DO THEN WE GEAR UP FOR EVERYONE TO COME BACK IN AND SAY WHY WE NEED THE SOMEONE WE

DON'T. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?

>> TONIGHT I HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME A PROTEST WHICH MS. EARLY IN, WE CAN DO A SIDEBAR LATER. I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE IT AN OPINION ON IT UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO ADD THIS POINT IN THE MEETING. I KNEW YOU WOULDN'T.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO MAKE AN OPINION OF THAT. SO JUST AS MAYBE YOU CAN ADVISE THE COMMISSION INDEPENDENTLY YOU SAY WE DO THIS INDEPENDENTLY OUT HERE AND IT'S THE ONLY TIME I GET TO TALK TO THESE FOLKS ABOUT BUSINESS. IF WE COULD DO THAT INDEPENDENTLY JUST TO SEE IF THERE IS MERIT AND BACKING THERE WAS A REQUEST MADE

TONIGHT OR AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT MADE >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU AT A LATER TIME ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. IT MIGHT EVEN BE -- WE DID AN EVALUATION AS A FPRA BOARD AND

THAT WAS THE ENTIRE PROCESS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE HAD AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND THE PRESENTATIONS CAME TO YOU AS A FPRA BOARD. THAT'S CORRECT

>> OKAY. SO THAT'S THE OTHER PART I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT MR. JENKINS DID MENTION THAT AND THAT'S FAIR. AND WE WILL GET THAT TIDIED UP,

SIR. >> AND I THINK WE ARE ALL GOING TO TRY TO DO OUR BEST -- I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO OUR BEST TO GET A RESOLUTION TO THIS AS SOON AS YOU. THERE IS SO MANY MOVING PARTS AND THERE'S SO MUCH OUT OF OUR CONTROL. THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT IS TRUE AND NOT TRUE

AND IT'S A HOT MESS. AND I WANT TO GET IT DONE. >> IS NOT A TECHNICAL TERM?

>> IT IS >> RIGHT OUT OF THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY.

>> YOUR STAFF PROVIDES AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THE PROJECTS WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EXTENSION AND WE DO NOT ACHIEVE THE GOAL SET FORTH WITHIN THE CONTRACTUAL PARAMETERS, MAYBE IT MAY BE TIME FOR US TO REEVALUATE THE ENTIRE THING.

IF WE DON'T GET THE FEEDBACK THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR FROM THOSE ENTITIES THEN WE WILL

COME BACK WITH ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION >> I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY YOU GOTTA KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO QUIT. I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN AND IT

DOESN'T WORK. >> MAY I PROVE TO APPROVE CONSENT EDGE ITEM -- DATE

CONSENT AGENDA ITEM >> CALL THE ROLE-PLAYS.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-020 - Review and approval of a Future Land Use Map Amendment by owner J T J Enterprises Inc., to change the future land use from Neighborhood Commercial, NC, to General Commercial, GC, at approximately 1503 S. 33rd Street Fort Pierce, FL 34947. Parcel IDs: 2417-601-0008-000-7 & 2417-601-0009-000-4. SECOND READING.]

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-021 - Review and approval for a Zoning Atlas Map Amendment by owners J T J Enterprises Inc., of two (2) parcels of land to change the zoning classification from Neighborhood Commercial. C-2, to General Commercial, C-3, generally located at 1503 S. 33rd Street Fort Pierce, FL 34947. Parcel IDs: 2417-601-0008-000-7 & 2417-601-0009-000-4. SECOND READING]

>> THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION SAY NO WHEN I CLOSE

THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL

>> SECOND >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> NEXT, WE HAVE A SECOND EETING FOR ORDINANCE 23- 021 AND ORDINANCE BY THE CITY

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CONFLICT IN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS THE SECOND RATING?

>> YES, MA'AM >> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORM AND ENTERTAIN A

MOTION >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL >> SECOND

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) to construct a 216-unit multi-family development (Privilege North), located east of Sunrise Boulevard and North of Dade Road in Fort Pierce. Parcel IDs: 2428-601-0252-000-6 & 2428-321-0001-000-3.]

>> THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING AND OUR ATTORNEY WILL READ THE GUIDELINES FOR PROCEDURES AND IF THEY DID THERE ARE TWO MORE AFTER THIS, AND SO IF PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION

TO THE RULES IT WILL ONLY HAVE TO READ IT ONCE. >> THE CITY ATTORNEY SERVES BOTH A LEGISLATIVE AND QUASIJUDICIAL ROLE WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY, THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIJUDICIAL BODY THEY APPLY THOSE LAWS AND POLICIES AND IS HELD TO STRICTER STANDARDS OF PROCEDURE. QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING. THEY MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENCE -- COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THEREFORE THEY HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE PROCEEDINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES AND LEGISLATORS.

THAT IS WHEN THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON A DAIS AT THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING.

IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT-AT-ARMS

WHO IS THE UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICER IN THE CHAMBER >> ADAM CLAUDE, HAVE WE MET THE

ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS >> WE HAVE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENT FOR THIS ITEM

>> WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, PLEASE?

>> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN'S

>> NO MA'AM >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON >> NO MAN

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON >> NO MA'AM >> COMMISSIONER HUDSON

>> NO MA'AM >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND

NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PROCEED

>> COMMISSIONERS, TODAY BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR PREVENTION NORTH.

THE APPLICANT IS ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WITH ROD CREATING THE REPRESENTATIVE. THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PRIVILEGE DEVELOPMENT, LLC AND THE PARCEL ID IS INVOLVED IN THIS ARE 2428, 60152006 AND 24283210001, 003.

IN SUMMARY, THE REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF AN APPLICATION FOR A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED EAST OF SUNRISE BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF DADE ROAD. 216 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE BEING PROPOSED ON TWO PARCELS TOTALING 21.686, GIVE OR TAKE EIGHT ACRES. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON TWO PARCELS WITH A FUTURE LAND IS OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND ZONING A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHEN A FOUR.THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION OF THE 21.686 ACRES.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING IT. AND THEN THERE IS URBAN, RESIDENTIAL, AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.

FOR THE ZONING, THERE IS OUR FOUR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE IT SURROUNDED BY SIMILAR CITY ZONING AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NINE UNITS PER ACRE AS WELL AS AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL IN THE COUNTY AROUND IT. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE THERE AND HOW THE UNITS WILL BE.

THIS IS AN LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THE MORE DETAILED PLANS -- THE PLAN IS BEFORE YOU.

THESE AR THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

AT THE PLANNING BOARD JANUARY 9, 2023 MEETING THEY VOTED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR

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THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO VOTER APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THE DEVELOPMENT OF DESIGN REVIEWS WITH THE TWO COMMISSIONS.

THE CITY COMMISSION TONIGHT CAN ALSO DO A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS OR RECOMMENDATION OF THIS APPROVAL. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> REAL QUICK. SO THE EVALUATIONS FOR SUNRISE BOULEVARD THIS IS A CONNECTION TO SUNRISE ONLY. IS THAT ACCURATE ON THE SITE

PLAN THERE? >> YES, I BELIEVE SO >> OKAY.

IS THAT A COUNTY ROAD AT THIS JURISDICTION? >> I BELIEVE IT'S A COUNTY

ROAD, YES. >> AND THE COUNTY IS OKAY AND THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THE IMPACTS OR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT OR WHATEVER SUBMITTED?

>> YES. THIS OTHER RECENT METALS >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS -- THIS IS NEAR DID HE SAW ANOTHER AREA.S THEE ANY THING IN RELATION TO THE

RAILROAD OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF

>> LAST ONE IS ABOUT DRAINAGE. SORRY TO END AND DAVID QUESTIONS BUT THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED IN THIS AREA, AND SO THIS IS VERY NEAR OR SOMEWHAT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NORTH FORK OF THE ST. LUCIE RIVER SO WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE LAND?

DID THAT GET TALKED ABOUT DURING TRC AND PRE-APPLICATION >> THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT FOR THE DRAINAGE AND THEY WERE THE ONES MAINLY WHO HAD COMMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MET FOR THE RESUBMITTAL AND THOSE DRAINAGE COMMENTS WERE MET.

>> OKAY. AND I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER IN THE AERIAL WHICH WAS PRESENTED WAS SOME ADJACENT RESIDENCES. ARE THERE ANY TD HERE IT IS RIGHT HERE.

SO TO THE EAST DIRECTLY TO THE EAST THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES.

IS THAT WHAT THOSE ARE? >> THEY ARE ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY BUT THOSE ARE

SINGLE-FAMILY IN THE DENSITY AND THEN MUPD THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY.>> IS THE WAY THEY ARE ZONED THE SAME. THEY HAPPEN TO BE SINGLE-FAMILY WHICH IS ALLOWABLE IN THE CODE AND HAS BEEN TRANSLATED FROM COUNTY TO CITY OVER TIME. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'VE GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THOSE.

IT'S HAPPENED TO US. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? THERE ARE TWO ENTRYWAYS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT YOU SAID ONE

>> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THERE IS ALSO THIS ONE OVER HERE.

>> THIS IS DATED >> DATE IS EVERY YEAR AND THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD.

DO WE HAVE ANY TD WELL, I WILL LOOK IT UP MYSELF TO TRY TO SEE THE PECTORAL OF WHAT IS THERE.

IT'S NEAR THE CEMETERY BUT I REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT DRAINAGE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS OFF OF DADE BUT THAT'S ALL COUNTY ROAD. THAT'S THEIR ISSUE.

IN RESPECT TO THIS SITE PLAN, WHAT IS -- HELPED ME GET MY BEARING HERE OF THIS.

" TD I BELIEVE IT'S TO THE NORTH. >> IT'S NOT ON THIS MAP.>>

OKAY. >> THAT'S A ROADWAY ON THE TOP PART. USUALLY CAN SEE WATER.

I SEE IT. AND DRAINAGE WILL BE TD THERE ARE DRAINAGE PLANS HERE AND IT

DRAINS WHICH WAY? TO THE NORTH? >> THANK YOU, STAFF

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THE SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING AND NO EXCEPTIONS, NOTHING OUT

OF THE ORDINARY >> RIGHT >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP NOW.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I DO NOT.

FOR THE RECORD THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND I HAVE A VERY QUICK POWERPOINT IT DOESN'T

REALLY INTRODUCE ANYTHINGNEW TO WHAT STAFF SAID BUT >> YOU COULD TAKE ALL THE TIME

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YOU NEED >> THIS JUST TALKS ABOUT THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

LUBHOUSE, BUS STOP, TENNIS COURT, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT THAT OF AN AERIAL SHOWING THE NORTH FORK TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY AND DADE TO THE SOUTH AND SUNRISE TO THE EAST THE NEXT ONE ZOOMS IN TO SHOW YOU THE LOCATION OF YOUR PROPERTY TO KEEP GOING.

THIS TALKS ABOUT THE MEDIUM DENSITY REZONING DISTRICT THIS IS SOME OF THE PRETTY PICTURES I TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST. SO YOU HAVE DADE TO THE RIGHT AND THEN SUNRISE BACK OFF INTO THE DISTANCE. SOMETHING STAFF DID MENTION I THINK IS IMPORTANT THE PERIMETER UNITS, ALL OF THE UNITS AROUND THE OUTSIDE ARE TWO-STORY IN HEIGHT AND THERE'S ONLY THREE-STORY UNITS ADJACENT TO THE LAKE SO WE DID TRY TO SCALE THAT DOWN AS IT WENT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE EAST OF US AND POTENTIALLY WHATEVER WOULD BE TOO THE WEST OR TO THE SOUTH OF US. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE THAT WILL BE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY.DADE ROAD IS A SUBSTANDARD RIGHT AWAY, SO WE COULD GET RIGHT AWAY WE ARGUE RIGHT AWAY BUT IT DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET OUT TO SUNRISE OR THE 25TH ST. BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SUFFICIENT RIGHT-OF-WAY. HE COUNTY SAID WE CAN'T PUT CARS ON THEIR UNLESS IT MEETS THEIR STANDARD AND WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY MEET THEIR STANDARD BECAUSE WE CAN GET ACCESS FURTHER TO THE EAST OR THE WEST SO WE DO FEEL LIKE HAVING A SECONDARY ACCESS IS IMPORTANT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES BUT WE WILL HAVE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OUT THAT WAY AS WELL BECAUSE YOU HAVE SCHOOL IN 20 VESTRY THAT SOME OF THE KIDS MAY BE WALKING AND WE DON'T WANT THEM WALKING UP AND DOWN DADE ROADS. IT'S NOT THE SAFEST ROUTE BUT THE ZONING BOARD DID COME ABOUT THAT QUITE A BITTERNESS REST PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION DOWN TO DADE AND I THINK THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT KIDS JUMPING SO WOULD BE BETTER TO PROVIDE THEM A BETTER METHOD TO GET THERE. WE DID THAT FOR DADE. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS INCENTIVES OUR MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF SUNRISE. I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE SPORT WHERE HE HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT SCHOOL BUS TURNAROUNDS, SO I DID WANT TO SHOW WE DO HAVE THAT SCHOOL BUS TURN AROUND THAT PAPER AREA AND WE HAVE THIS SCHOOL BUS STOPS THE BUSES CAN GET OFF OF SUNRISE COMING AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN LEAVE THE FACILITY. THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AGAIN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY. THAT'S A NARROW LANE AND IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 10 OR 15 FEET WIDE ENOUGH FOR A FIRE TRUCK. N THE FUTURE THEY WANTED TO HAVE ACCESS, THEY COULD PROBABLY CONVERT THAT. OVER THE TIME BEING THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS, WHAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE INSIDE. AND THIS IS A CLUBHOUSE.

I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT IS GOING TO GATED COMMUNITY AND THE GATES WILL BE OUT OF THE CLUB OUT TO PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT THE COMMUNITY COULD COME IN AND PARK AT THE CLUBHOUSE AREA AND THEN LEAVE WITHOUT GOING TO THE GATES. IT WILL BE GATED AND RESIDENTS WOULD ACCESS EITHER TO THE EAST OR TO THE SOUTH. AND WE DID HAVE TO DO EV PARKING AND THAT YOUR PLAN OF THE ZONING BOARD IS PRETTY GOOD ABOUT REQUESTING THAT SAWEETIE PROVIDED THE PARKING NEXT TO THE FIRST COUPLE OF BUILDINGS. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

AS WE SET ABOUT TURNING 16 UNITS 4000 SQUARE-FOOT CLUBHOUSE WILL BE GATED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING THE PROJECT.

>> PRESENTATION DID HAVE PRETTY PICTURES. QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>> YOU JUST MENTION THAT THIS IS PROPOSED AS A RENTAL COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE WRITEUP

IT WAS CONDOMINIUMS. >> MUST BE A MISTAKE. IT IS DEFINITELY RENTALS AT

THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE

APPLICANT? >> SO AS WE MOVE INTO THESE AREAS OF FT. PIERCE AND ST.

LUCIE COUNTY THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED COMING INTO THE CITY, AND WE ARE CONNECTING TO ROADWAYS THAT DON'T MEET DESIGN STANDARDS, WHILE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE PROJECT, I'M GOING TO RELATED TO THE PROJECT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THE SITUATION AT DADE ROAD? ARE THERE ANY PARAMETERS FROM YOU AS A PROFESSIONAL TEAM DOING THIS EVALUATION WE CAN MAKE THE SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY PARAMETERS AND PUT THEM IN PLAY TO HELP STUDENTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO OR THREE SCHOOLS IN 20 VESTRY AND WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO. SO WHAT DO WE DO TO HELP THIS

SITUATION? >> I THINK, TYPICALLY, THE WAY MUNICIPALITIES TREAT THESE PROJECTS IS THEY REQUIRE DEDICATION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ALONG TH FRONTAGE OF EACH PROPERTY AND THE LOGIC THERE IS EVENTUALLY EVERY PROJECT WILL COME IN AND THE

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YOU KNOW, I THINK DEPENDING -- SOMETIMES I THINK THAT'S A WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TORN UP BUT IF DADE ROAD IS NEVER GOING TO BE BUILT UP BECAUSE IT'S A POSSIBILITY, IT DOES PROBABLY MAKE SENSE TO SPEND MONEY TO HAVE A SAFE PRODUCTION WAY OUT THERE.

THE COUNTY DOES GET A SIDEWALK FUND. I HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS RIGHT ON BUILD A SIDEWALK. PAY FOR INSTEAD OF BUILDING A SIDEWALK SOLANO CONTY DOES HAVE A SIDEWALK FUND. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS THE ABILITY TO INSTALL WHAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER TEMPORARY SIDEWALK BECAUSE WHEN THE ROADWAY DOES GET EXPANDED, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED OR MOVED YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THAT ON HOW FAR OUT THE RUNWAY WILL ACTUALLY GET BUILT. DADE ROAD IS ONE OF THOSE ROADS I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL EVER GET BUILT BECAUSE THEY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ON THEIR SINGLE TAKE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TO BUILD DADE ROAD. SO I THINK THE TEMPORARY CASE OF TALKING TO THE COUNTY ABOUT USING SOME SIDEWALK MONEY TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE I THINK MAKES GOOD SENSE.

>> AND I FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT OUR OWN HOUSE, THE SAME IDEA WE JUST PROPOSED AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER BECAUSE YEARS AGO, AS MOST OF US UP AND AROUND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OR WE HAVE SEEN SITE PLANS BEING BUILT WE TRANSITION FROM THE DEVELOPER WAS REQUIRED TO PUT THAT SIDEWALK AND NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAID THE JURISDICTION SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TO THE PODIUM TONIGHT. HE WILL PUT THIS SIDEWALK INTO HEAVY DEVELOPMENT. WE ALL REMEMBER THOSE DAYS. THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THAT FOR US. IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SUCH A THING ON BEHALF OF PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, RAILWAY NETWORKS. FROM THE DEVELOPER SIDE IT'S NOT AS CHALLENGING.

IT'S EASIER AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. AT THE SAME TIME LOOKING AT FROM THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY I'M TAKING HER PROJECT WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD LAYOUT AND DESIGN THANK YOU FOR THE TWO STORY ELEMENTS NEXT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

YOU ANSWERED IT. I'M JUST CHALLENGED WITH HOW DO WE GROW OUR SMALL COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT MORE FRIENDLY FOR EVERY USER, WHETHER IT'S AN EV, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMPONENT, WHETHER IT'S A CAR OR PEDESTRIAN OR BICYCLISTS. ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN LEAN AND TALK TO OUR COUNTY PARTNERS INCLUDING OUR OWN PLANNING SOFTWARE ENGINEERING STAFF AND TAKING THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED AND PUT IT TO A USE.

YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR IMPACT FEES >> WE ARE >> WE HAVE TO GET A RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT TO THE COUNTY AND I ALWAYS USE THE TERM THE TEETH AND THAT FORCES ME TO DO WHAT I NEED TO DO IS THE RIGHT AWAY PERMIT SOMEONE TO GET THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE OR WHETHER IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF. ALONG SUNRISE WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF FURNITURE WE WILL BUILD A SIDEWALK THERE. NOT SURE WHAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO. IT'S THE COUNTY THAT DRIVES OUT AND I CAN SAY WOULD RATHER PAY THE FEE IN LIEU OF ALL DAY LONG BUT IF THEY WANT TO SIDEWALK THEIR ABILITY TO FORCE ME TO

BUILD THE SIDEWALK AS TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT. >> AND SO THE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP I MENTIONED COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM THE COMPONENTS OF AS WE APPROACHED BY MOUNT CREEK WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DRAINAGE COMPONENT. WHAT ARE YOUR SOIL CONDITIONS ON THE PROJECT OR HOW DID YOU

ADDRESS THE STORM WATERS? >> ON EVERY PROJECT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU THIS BUT MY WAY OF EXPLAINING THIS IS IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE BETTER WITH DEVELOPMENT AND I'M SURE THERE'S RESIDENTS BY ME THAT LAST AND SAME THINGS WHEN I SAY THAT. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THERE IS A BURN BUILT UP AROUND THE PERIMETER THAT MAKES IT WHERE WATER CANNOT LEAVE THE PROPERTY. WHEN YOU DROP WATER THAT LANDS ON THE PROPERTY, I CONSIDER IT A SWIMMING POOL AND SO THE WHOLE PIECE WOULD FILL UP LIKE A SWIMMING POOL FILLED UP AND IT PULLS UP IN THE LOW AREAS, YOUR DRAINAGE OR YOUR POND EVEN IN THE PARKING LOT SOMETIMES IF IT HAS A BAD STORM THE WAY THESE FACILITIES ARE PLANNED AS YOU CAN STORE WATER IN THE PARKING LOT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. THE GOAL IS TO NOT GET WATER IN YOUR BUILDING SO YOU DESIGN IT TO YOUR PERIMETER BERM IS SET AT A HEIGHT TO BUILDING A SET HEIGHT SO IT WOULD GET OFF THE SITE FASTER BEFORE IT STARTS PLANNING YOUR BUILDINGS.

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>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE >> A QUICK QUESTION. YOU BROUGHT UP A POINT THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION FROM OTHER SIDEWALKS MAYBE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF SUNRISE COUNTY IS DOING A LOT OF PUTTING THE SIDEWALKS ON IN FRONT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ON PROBABLY OPPOSITE SIDE WHICH WOULD BE THE WEST SIDE YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADD SIDEWALK THERE LEXI WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUILD SIDEWALKS ALONG WHATEVER OUR FRONTAGE IS ON ANTI-COUNTY ROADWAY.

WE ONLY HAVE FRONTAGE ON THE WEST SIDE. THAT COULD BE AN EXAMPLE WHERE THE COUNTY COMES AND SAYS WE ARE BUILDING SIDEWALKS ON THE EAST SIDE AND WOULD RATHER HAVE YOUR MONEY AND PUT THAT TOWARDS THE SIDEWALKS ON THE EAST SIDE. I WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I

SUBMIT THE PERMIT >> I CAME AT IT THE OTHER DAY AND THEY ARE DOING EXTENSIVE WORK ON THE OTHER SIDE. TALK TO ME AND I TAKE IT YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPER.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE. GIVE ME A FLAVOR OF WHAT'S COMING.

IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY. WHAT IS HIS OPTIMAL MIX OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE BECAUSE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A CONCERN PARTICULARLY ON DATE ROAD AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT A RESIDENT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ABOUT DADE ROAD AND STEWARDS MOVING AND TRYING TO GET THE 25TH ST. ET CETERA BUT GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT MAY BE IS TO COME FROM

THE OPTIMAL MIX OF RESIDENTS IN THIS GATED COMMUNITY >> OUR OFFICE DOES A TON OF MULTIFAMILY WORK EVERYWHERE AND I MEAN RENTALS AND MY CLIENT CAME TO ME ON THIS PIECE I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING AND IT WAS ALREADY SIDE. THIS IS AN EASTERN LOCATION.

IT'S NOT REALLY WEST. IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO U.S. 1 AND YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY BEING BUILT IN THIS AREA SO I THINK FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT IT'S GOING TO BE MARKET RATE. WE ARE NOT DOING ANY AFFORDABLE OR SECTION 8. IT WILL BE MARKET RATE. I THINK YOUR RENTER -- I CAN'T REALLY TD IS PROBABLY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE OUT WEST LIVE A LITTLE CLOSER TO TOWN I'M SURE THERE WILL BE FAMILIES THERE AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER MIX I THINK IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT RHETORIC BECAUSE

I THINK THEY WANT TO BE FURTHER TO THE EAST. >> IS SOMEBODY GOING TO BE

MANAGING THAT >> THE OWNER WILL MANAGE IT. MENTAL STOP ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN AFTER OUR EMERGENCY NUMBERS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT

>> IS GOING TO BE GATED ON SUNRISE >> YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY SO THERE WILL BE A FENCE ACROSS A THE TIME AND TYPICALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A KNOX BOX AND THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO GO IN AND OUT. THEY WILL BE THE ONLY ONES TO USE THE GATE TO THE SALMON RESIDENTS WE USE THAT OFF OF SUNRISE

>> IT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE 2 TO SCHOOL SO IF THERE ARE CHILDREN I THINK THE MIDDLE

SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL WILL PROBABLY BE WALKING ALONG DADE >> FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK >> JUST ONE COMMENT.

I THINK THIS IS A WELL LOCATED SORELY NEEDED TYPE PRODUCT AND IT SUPPORTS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. THAT AREA OF TOWN AND IT SUITS THE SPECIFIC NEED.

STRONG ADVOCATE OF A PRODUCT -- PROJECT >> A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE COMING TO FT. PIERCE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO

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OR DISCUSSION. >> ADMITTED FOR THE APPROVAL WITH THE STAFF CONDITIONS.

>> SECOND >> RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, I SHOULD SAY

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Final Plat Review submitted by applicant Brian Nolan of Lucido and Associates, Inc., to subdivide 1 parcel into 88 platted lots that include a reconfigured right-of-way and 88 single-family residential lots at 829 Bent Creek Drive, more specifically located at Parcel Control Number: 2407-700-0024-000-8]

LOTS AT 829 BENT CREEK DOCTOR. THAT'S IT. >> OKAY.

SO HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS >> WE HAVE MET THE ADVERTISING

REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEM >> AND WHEN YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS.> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK >> YES.

THIS PROJECT AND ITS MULTITUDE OF PHASES, I HAVE VISITED THIS MANY TIMES.

>> VISITED THE SITE? >> THE PLANTS THEMSELVES AS THEY HAVE WORKED THEIR WAY TO

THE PLANNING BOARD OVER SEVERAL YEARS. >> OKAY.AT PLANNING BOARD.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER GAINES >> NO

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON >> NO >> MAYOR HUDSON

>> NO, MA'AM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES?

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

THANK YOU. >> PROCEED. >> COMMISSIONERS, MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT BEN CREEK PARCEL A 2.

THE APPLICANT IS BRIAN NOLAN WITH PARCEL ID IS 2407700024008. IN SUMMARY, THE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT IS SUBDIVIDE ONE SUCH CHANGE THAT INCLUDES A RECONFIGURED RIGHT-OF-WAY IN A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LOTS AND 3828 LINEAR FEET OF EIGHT INCH PVC WATER MAIN AND 48 INCH GATE VALVES AND THREE FIRE HYDRANTS. THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPOSED FINAL PLAT.

IT'S FUTURE LAND-USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. IF ZONING IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND BEFORE YOU ARE THE PLAT FOR THE TRACT A 2 IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS THE CITY COMMISSION BOTH APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY.

WITH THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR.

>> YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I DO NOT.

BRIAN NOLAN WITH AND WE WERE JUST BEFORE YOU FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT I THINK A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

AS I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU, THE ONLY THING WE ARE LACKING IS THIS COUNTIES FINAL CERTIFICATION OF PETERSON. ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE BRIDGE HAS BEEN INSPECTED AND ACCEPTED AND THE UTILITIES HAVE BEEN INSPECTED AND ACCEPTED.

BUT I THINK IN THE TRUE MATTER OF THE AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE IT STATES THAT PETERSON ROAD HAS TO BE BUILT AND ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY PERFORMER CORONATION OF THE PLAT.

SO I WOULD ASK MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE KINDLY RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE CLERK HOLD OFF ON RECORDING THE PLAT UNTIL WE PROVIDE EVIDENCE AND THE CERTIFICATION HAS BEEN

OFFICIALLY ISSUED BY THE COUNTY. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

MADAM CLERK, IS THAT A REQUESTER CAN BE MET? >> I WOULD THINK ABSOLUTELY MEANING IF YOU MAKE IT A CONDITION OF YOUR APPROVAL THAT RECORDING WILL OCCUR UPON

CERTIFICATION FROM THE COUNTIES THAT PETERSON ROAD IS ACCEPTED. >> AND WE EXPECT THAT WITHIN

THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. >> ME CERTAINLY KNOW ABOUT TIMELINES.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DON'T LIKE THOSE TIMELINES. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET IT DONE

WHEN YOU GET IT DONE. ANY QUESTIONS >> I'M GOOD.> ANYBODY ELSE?

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ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING >> WANT TO MAKE SURE PLANNING

STAFF >> THAT'S FINE WITH US >>

>> I WANTED TO DO THAT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THAT'S GOOD.

WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.R DISCUSSION

>> I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE EXTENSION FOR THE RECORDATION.

AS REQUESTED. >> IS THERE A SECOND >> SECOND.

[e. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and Approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) by property owner, William Wallace Enterprises, LLC, and applicant, Lee Smith, President of Wallace Auto Group to construct an approximately 25,740 square foot Automobile Sales and Service Facility with associated site improvements at or near 5553 South US Highway 1 in Fort Pierce, Florida, more specifically located at Parcel Control Number: 3410-211-0003-000-7.]

IMPROVEMENTS AT OR NEAR TO SIMON JUAN AND FT. PIERCE >>

>> THAT'S THE EXISTING VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AT THE MOMENT. THAT'S THE FUTURE LAND-USE ZONING YOU CAN SEE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL THAT'S THE SITE PLAN.

YOU WILL SEE THE WETLAND AND ALSO THE RETENTION AREA PROTECTING THE WETLAND.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, A NUMBER OF TREES AND SHRUBS WHEN WE SENT THE RENDERING, IT SHOWED THIS

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THAT THE SERVICE AREA IS MORE AWAY FROM THE ACCESS POINT THE SERVICE LOCATION IS IN THIS AREA MORE THAN SHOWN IN THE RENDERING. SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.

THIS WAS PRESENTED AT THE JANUARY 9 MEETING THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST CONDITIONS OF DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF COMPLETION CERTIFICATE BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT COST ESTIMATE AND LANDSCAPE ON PURSUANT TO CITY CODE 123-6 SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE FINAL OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY SITE CLEARING PERMITS THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A TREE MITIGATION SURVEY AND COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE ARBORIST REQUIRED MITIGATION OF THE CITY REGULATED TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THE ACTIVITY. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE SITE NOTING THAT SHE RECOMMENDED SEVERAL CONDITIONS MODIFY APPROVAL OF

THE SUBMITTAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF SUBMITTAL. >> IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN ITSELF. LANDSCAPE IS FINE. THE COMMENTS FROM SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, I NOTICED THE CONFIGURATION OF THE DUMPSTERS, THE DRIVER RETENTION.

WITH OKAY WITH THE EXISTING ORDER THEY RELOCATED? I WORRY ABOUT PACKING MOMENTS ESPECIALLY WITHIN DEALERSHIPS. WHAT WERE COMMENTS FROM SOLID WASTE STAFF OR PUBLIC WORKS

STAFF WERE THERE ANY >> I DON'T RECALL. MAINLY WE LOOK AT ME VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND FOR ACCESS TO THE LOCATION ON THAT EQUIPMENT FROM UTILITY VEHICLES.

THE RSS FOR VEHICLE MOVEMENTS AND LOCATION. >> I DIDN'T SEE ANY DUTY I DON'T SEE A DRIVEWAY CONNECTION TO THE WEST OF THAT DRIVEWAY WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IS LOCATED. SO THE MOVEMENT WILL BE SUCH THAT DRIVES THEM INTO THE FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDING SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE ANY COMMENTS.

NOT VERY OFTEN REBUILDING NEW DEALERSHIPS WHILE THIS IS THE CORRIDOR OF U.S. 1 IT'S NOT TOO OFTEN WE BUILD NEW FACILITIES WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MOVEMENTS OF OUR CITY P.D.

>> IT FACES U.S. 1 SO THAT'S THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE >> IT'S A NEW BUILDING THERE AND IF YOU ZOOM IN TO THE NORTH SIDE IT SAYS NEW VEHICLE. SO I DON'T LIKE -- I WORRY ABOUT THAT INTERACTION. THAT'S MY COMMENT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY

OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COULD THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND WELCOME. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT -- SCOTT MONTGOMERY. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK

>> I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ANSWER >> WE ARE OPERATING ON THE SIDE ALREADY. THIS IS GENERALLY A RENOVATION FOR THE MOST PART OF THE ENTIRE SITE THEY HAVE THE LINCOLN FACILITY TO THE SOUTH WE SHARE AN EXISTING ACCESS WITH THAT FACILITY OFF OF U.S. 1. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WESTERLY OF THE TWO CONNECTIONS IN EXISTING

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WE KEEP THE SAME CIRCULATION. WE DID RUN AUTO TERMS WITH REGARD TO THAT FOR NOT ONLY THEIR TRANSPORT VEHICLES BUT SANITATION TRUCKS, FIRE TRUCKS. WE DO SEE THAT WESTERLY CONNECTION PRIMARILY LESS USE BY THE PUBLIC OR CUSTOMERS MORE FOR SERVICE RELATED EMPLOYEES GENERAL MOVEMENT OF VEHICLES BY THE DEALERSHIP AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE ROOM OR IF THE SHIFT WAS PREFERRED THEY ARE, WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT IF THAT WAS NECESSARY.

THERE WERE NO COMMENTS THAT I SAW RAISED BY SANITATION DURING THE REVIEW SO FAR. WE WOULD BE OPEN TO OTHER CONSIDERATION WE DON'T HAVE THAT BACK A CONCERN IF YOU HAD OTHER INCOMING VEHICLES. THE TRUCKS COULD LOAD THE DUMPSTERS AND BACK UP.

BUT OTHERWISE, THIS SITE IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE WETLANDS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED IN 2002 FOR THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. NO CHANGES THERE WE BELIEVE WE ARE FURTHER BUFFERING IT FROM A CONFIGURATION EXPANSION DETENTION AREA AROUND THE PERIMETER OF IT. THE LANDSCAPING PROPOSED IS GENERALLY AND FULCRUM FORMANTS FROM THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE OR NEXT IN THE BUILDING -- THE BUILDINGS WERE SIMPLY OUTDATED THIS WAS THE TIME TO UPGRADE FACILITIES WITH A NEW SERVICE AREA

>> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT

>> NOW. SINCE A RAPID QUESTION -- I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. LET'S BE REAL. SANITATION TRUCKS, NOT EVERY SANITATION TRUCK IN AMERICA PROBABLY HOLDS ITS LIQUIDS AND TRASH WITHIN THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE AT ALL TIMES. AT THE SAME TIME, I'M THINKING ABOUT YOUR OWN PIECE OF PROPERTY AND HOW WE ARE DELIVERING TRASH SERVICE. THAT'S A REAL OBSERVATION AND COMMENT AND THAT'S ONLY BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SAID WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT AND IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE SO MY ANSWER IS THANK YOU AND WE WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO REDESIGN I'M JUST ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THIS PARAMETERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A

SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND PROJECT. >> THEY DO HAVE MILLIONS OF CONVEYING THE TRUST TO THESE DUMPSTERS. THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING. MR. FREEMAN, WHEN WE FILE FOR OUR FINAL PERMITTING PRIOR TO THEN WILL CONSULT WITH THE SANITATION DIVISION AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BETTER LOCATION FOR THAT PURPOSE. I CAN APPRECIATE IT WASN'T JUST

ABOUT CIRCULATION BUT PROTECTING THE PAVEMENT >> AND THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS WETLANDS AND WE ARE VERY PROUD TO BE A TREE CITY SO WE ARE PRESERVING AREAS LIKE THIS AND IT WAS A BLAST FROM THE PAST WHEN HE SETS STEVE BARNETT SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE HEARD IT BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUING THINKING ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT.

I APPRECIATE IT >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR EMOTION

>> AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE >> WITH CONDITIONS. >> SECOND

>> CALL THE ROLE >>

[a. Resolution 23-R23 appointing Stephen Lyons as the consumer representative to the Board of Examiners of Contractors.]

THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO GET TO US. >> RESOLUTION 23-R 23 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FT. APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF EXAMINERS OF CONTRACTORS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ADMITTED FOR THE APPROVAL >> SECOND >> MOTION AND APPROVAL.

CALL THE

[b. Resolution 23-R24 appointing Rick Fusco to the Arts & Culture Advisory Board as Commissioner Johnson's appointee.]

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>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL >> SECOND

[c. Resolution 23-R25 Revising the Quasi-Judicial procedures]

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES NOTICED >> THEY DID A LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT WITH US AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND ALSO LET THEM KNOW IT WILL BE A QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDING AND A LINK TO THOSE PROCEDURES ON OUR WEBSITE

>> GOOD JOB, STAFF. >> AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE

>> SECOND >> THURSDAY MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> THIS IS A TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE. >> NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>> MS. COX, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS >> NO COMMENTS

>> COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? >> IS THERE A VOLUNTEER TO GO

FIRST?>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- JOINT MEETING COMING UP WITH THE COUNTY WE ARE ON

SCHEDULE AND IT'S ON OUR CALENDARS >> MARCH 28 IS THE LAST I HEARD

>> THE END OF THIS MONTH. >> IN YOUR EMAILS YOU HAVE A REQUEST TO ORDER LUNCH.

>> ARE WE GOING TO GET A POSTED AGENDA? >> I KNOW THAT LEE COUNTY IS HAVING AN INFORMAL MEETING AND I BELIEVE IT'S TOMORROW. OF DISCUSSION. ABOUT THE ITEMS I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE CAPTURED EVERYTHING, BUT AFTER TOMORROW THE COUNTY STAFF WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA AS TO IF THEY WANT TO SOLIDIFY WITH US AND WE WILL GET THAT AGENDA OUT

PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT I WOULD SAY 7 TO 10 DAYS. >> WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND CONGRATS FOR MOVING A GRIEVIN THIS WEEKEND, WHETHER IT WAS BEING DOWNTOWN AND CELEBRATING OR CLEANING UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP PROCESS.

A LOT OF GOOD HAPPENINGS WITHIN OUR CITY AND IT'S ALWAYS ENCOURAGING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON SPECIFICALLY MOORE'S CREEK AND WATER TREATMENT AND TALKING TO MISS KRISTA STONE WAS HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT ANOTHER SUBJECT BUT HER FOCUS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MOORE'S CREEK PROCESS AND JUST GETTING THE ORGANISMS, THE PLANTINGS, THE OYSTERS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE TO HELP FACILITATE CLEAN WATERS THAT ARE DISCHARGING INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON SO I WANTED TO SAY MANY THINGS TO THAT AND WANTED TO BRING UP WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY AND DIALING INTO OUR YOUTH.

AND SINCE SOMEHOW I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON HOW WE CAN CELEBRATE OUR YOUTH WITHIN THE CITY AND MAKE IT A SPECIAL TIME WHETHER AT A FORMAL MEETING OR A CONFERENCE AGENDA MEETING OR ENCOURAGING NEWS TO CELEBRATE THEM THAT CAN BE DONE I THINK

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I DON'T THINK WE DONE THAT AS AN OFFICIAL AT CITY HALL >> SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM BUT

ARE YOU THINKING OF ATHLETES >> STEM MAJORS AND HAVE A SPECIAL YOUTH DAY.

>> I WILL JUST FOLLOW ME AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT BEFORE THE MEETING. WE KNOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL CHAMPION USE CHAMPION BOXER AND IF YOU HAVE READ THE NEWSPAPER THIS WEEKEND, WE HAD TO LOCAL DDF FEMALE AND A MALE WRESTLER WENT STATE SO I LOVE THE IDEA OF OPENING UP NOT JUST TO SPORTS BUT LET'S SHOW THE WORLD WHAT FT. PIERCE IS ABOUT TO DO THAT BY SHOWING OUR YOUTH. OUR YOUTH COUNCIL IS ACTUALLY PUTTING ON POWER YOUTH ON THE 25TH EMPOWER YOUTH ON THE 25TH SO THE YOUTH COUNCIL IS OUT BUT I THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE AND IT GOES ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON'S IDEA OF ONE FT. PIERCE WHEN YOU BRING IN YOUTH FROM ALL AREAS OF OUR CITY AND WE SAY GREAT JOB.

AND THEY COME UP HERE AND THEY SMILED WHEN THEY SEE US TALKING ABOUT THEM.

THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE AND IT SENDS A POSITIVE MESSAGE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CARE ABOUT OUR YOUTH, AND I WANT IT TO BE OPEN BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW.

WE COULD HAVE SOME BAND MEMBERS. WE DON'T KNOW.SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND WE OPENED UP AND IF YOU ACHIEVE THIS LEVEL, YOU COME AND RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO YOU NEVER NOW. THE PERFECT SCORE ON THE SATURDAY WE WANT TO SHOW THAT IS WHAT FT. PIERCE IS ALL ABOUT.

I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE YOUTH THAT PARTICIPATED THIS WEEKEND AND THEN ALL THE STATE EVENTS I KNOW BASEBALL SEASON HAS STARTED AROUND THE LEAGUE'S WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALL THE LEAGUES THAT HAVE STARTED AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH US AGAIN. I JUST RETURNED FROM MY FIRST CONFERENCE OF FLORIDA BLACK PCAUCUS. I GOT THE NAME -- IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES THEY HAVE THIS ONE PRESENTATION OF BASICALLY HAVE TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.

AND I LOOKED AT HIM LIKE AM I MISSING SOMETHING? BECAUSE I CAN EVEN GO ON BREAK WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE WE MIGHT DISAGREE. BUT WE DID EAT SOME OF THE STUFF I WAS HEARING I WAS LIKE OKAY. I SAID I CAN GO ON BREAK ON THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OUR COMMISSION. WE SAY WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AND HE JUST SHOOK HIS HEAD AND HIS COMMENTS WERE, MAN, YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA.

THIS HAS BEEN A BREEZE TO BE A CITY MANAGER THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SO I JUST WANT TO GET KUDOS -- TO GO TO SHOW THE HARDWARE THAT THE FIVE OF US DO. WE ALL HAVE THEY BEEN I KNOW

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PIERCE A BETTER PLACE SO I'M HAPPY TO BE PART OF THIS TEAM >> I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.

I'M SURE WITH ALL OF THE NATIONAL HOLIDAYS THAT ARE CELEBRATED NATIONAL ICE CREAM DAY OR ICE CREAM ON I'M SURE THE NATIONAL YOUTH MONTH OR DAY OR SOMETHING AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REALLY FLESHED OUT AND HAVE AN ALL CALL FOR OUR CITY AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CRAFT THE AGENDA SO MAYBE WE WILL DEAL WITH THE YOUTH OR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE COUNCIL COULD SIT WITH US SO WE CAN GET THEM INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS GOING FORWARD AND RECOGNIZING ALL OF THE ATHLETES WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THE US. IF WE CAN PINPOINT THAT DAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OUR YOUTH CITY COMMISSION MEETING MAYBE WORK WITH THEM PRIOR TO IT TO GET HIM SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THEY MATERIAL HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE.

I'M TONGUE-IN-CHEEK. I KNOW IT'S NOT. SO REAL QUICK, THIS WEEK WAS NOT ONLY EYE-OPENING BUT WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION NOT ONLY LEARNING ABOUT OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR CHALLENGE. SOME OF THE STUFF WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW THOSE GUYS AND WHAT THEY GO THROUGH IN CITY COUNCILS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

WE DISAGREE ON THINGS THAT THEY HAVE SOME REAL CHALLENGES WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES THAT'S UNREAL. AND YOU LISTEN AND YOU LEARN AND I GLEANED IDEAS I WOULD BE PASSING ON SOME CERTAIN GRANT OPPORTUNITIES I'M NOT SURE IF WE WERE AWARE OF CERTAIN PLATFORMS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND I'M SURE WE ARE BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS FULLY ABREAST TO CERTAIN PLATFORMS THAT I LEARNED MORE ABOUT THIS WEEKEND TO BRING RESOURCES, FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO HELP US DEVELOP THINGS IN THIS CITY AND ONE IN PARTICULAR WAS ABOUT SIDEWALKS. IT WAS A SPECIAL GRANT ALL ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ONE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT DEED ROAD. IT'S NOT OURS BUT IF THIS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE NAVIGATING DADE ROAD OVER THERE SPECIFICALLY

>> YOU WANT THE COUNTY TO BE AS CONCERNED >> EXACTLY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. A GREAT WEEKEND AND LOTS GOING ON AND WE ARE STRETCHED A LITTLE TOO THIN I WAS AT A BOARD RETREAT FOR COLLEGE COULD MAKE IT OUT TO THE CLEAN UP THE GREAT THINGS ARE GOING ON WITH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE PARTNER AND DOCTOR MOORE IS ON FIRE.

>> MY WIFE NOT TO PARTAKE IN THE ACTIVITIES THE FREEBIE IS A SLAMMING SUCCESS.

AS SOMEONE OF THE CARS PULL OUT AND PEOPLE JUST KEPT COMING OUT OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO HEAR THEY WERE EVERYWHERE AND I WAS REALLY THRILLED TO SEE SUCH A QUICK INDOCTRINATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE HAVE GRAVITATED TOWARDS THIS.

IT WAS GREAT TO SEE A REAL SUCCESS AND I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING SMALL JUST TO SEE THE PLEASURE PEOPLE WERE HAVING IN THE SECOND ITEM AS I WAS SAYING DOWNTOWN WAS JUST ABUZZ WITH ACTIVITY. FRIDAY NIGHT ROLLING INTO SATURDAY MORNING ROLLING INTO SATURDAY NIGHT WAS LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE ROUTES ALL OVER THE PLACE TO TRY TO AVOID TRYING TO

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DOWNTOWN. >> FRIDAY FAST >> IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE AND PACKED DOWN THERE AND ALL THE RESIDENTS WERE BUSY. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THAT TYPE OF INVOLVEMENT BY PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY.

MY LAST POINT IS AFTER 40 YEARS OF BEING IN THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, COMMISSIONER GAINES HAS FINALLY DEMYSTIFIED IT FOR ME. THE NEXT TIME ACCOMPANIMENT TO A CONTRACT FOR REAL ESTATE, WE ARE JUST GOING TO USE YELLOW BALLOONS.

I KNOW IT'S TIME TO CLOSE WHEN EVERYTHING TURNS GREEN. >> WE DON'T EVEN NEED REAL

ESTATE ATTORNEYS. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT EDUCATION.

IT WAS GREAT. >> I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT OUR VERY OWN MIA MORRISON WON THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB YOUTH OF THE YEAR AGAIN

>> SHE WON IT AGAIN? I SAW THAT AND THOUGHT I WAS MISREADING IT.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD WIN IT TWICE >> SHE WON IT BACK TO BACK AND IT WAS TWO FRIDAYS AGO AND IF YOU HEARD HER SPEECH, IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

WE REALLY HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL ON OUR YOUTH COUNCIL. I WOULD BE RUN AS IF I DIDN'T

SAY SO SHE'S GOING TO REPRESENT US AGAIN >> SHE'S WHEN WE MIGHT

RECOGNIZE AS WELL >> SHE'S GOING TO RECOGNIZE US AGAIN

>> THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS AND I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD BE REALLY PLEASED TO SEE OFFICER HE WORKS WITH THOSE STUDENTS AND THE PRINCIPAL AND THERE IS A SORORITY THAT'S KIND OF ADOPTED IT AND THEY ARE VOLUNTEER AND IT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF BECAUSE THOSE STUDENTS NEED THAT ROLE MODEL AND HE DOES IT SO VERY WELL.

ND OUR POLICE OFFICERS WERE ALL OVER HELPING US TO THE OFFICE RESPONSE WAS EVERYWHERE TAKING PICTURES AND BRINGING GARBAGE BAGS, DOING WHATEVER WAS NEEDED.

IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT AND WE HAD AN ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF TREE CITY. WE SHOULD BE GOOD. THEY WERE TURNED OUT IN FORCE AND I'M VERY GLAD ABOUT THAT. TODAY WAS THE FIRST LEGISLATIVE CALL LEGISLATURE OPENS TOMORROW SO THERE IS A SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY BILL THAT PUSHES THAT UP TO 2.5 MILLION AND 5 MILLION FROM 200,000 AND 600,000. SO THAT'S VERY ALARMING. THERE'S SEVERAL BILLS ABOUT SOLID WASTE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PROVIDERS AND HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR OWN CITY, AND I THINK I NEED TO GET THOSE BILLS TO YOU, MR. MIMS FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT MAY BE FOR MR. REELS TO TAKE A LOOK AT BECAUSE THEY ASKED US TO HAVE OUR SOLID WASTE STAFF AND OUR FINANCE STAFF LOOK AND SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF ALARMING BECAUSE IT KIND OF FAVORS THE PROVIDER AND SAYS YOU HAVE TO LET A PRIVATE PROVIDER AND LET THE PRIVATE PROVIDER DO WHAT EVER THEY WANT AND THERE ARE -- I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW TO REDUCE THE CAP ON HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THEN THAT A BILL ABOUT VACATION RENTALS TO LIMIT THE REGISTRATION FEE TO $50 AND SO THAT THEY SENT US TODAY. SO IF YOU ALL WOULD KIND OF TRY TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE CITY SENDS IN SO WHEN YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND TALKING TO LEGISLATORS -- OF ERNIE HUDSON SUBJECT TO COMMUNICATE TO LEGISLATORS. SO KIND OF KEEP THEM ADVISED ABOUT HOW THESE THINGS AFFECT CITIES BECAUSE THERE'S ONE DEAL OF PARENT CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH

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PUNISH EVERYBODY. >> I FORGOT THE NUMBER. THE NAME.

THE NONPARTISAN BILL >> THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S SO MANY BAD IDEAS OUT

THERE. MAKE EVERY OFFICE PARTISAN. >> TO THE COMMISSION LEVEL?

>> EVERY OFFICE >> I'M NOT SURPRISED. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOOD.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT I'M NOT SURPRISED. >> ALSO EVERY YEAR THEY INTRODUCE MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS SHOULD FILE FORM SIX INSTEAD OF FORM ONE OR MAYBE I GOT IT BACKWARDS. BUT ONE IS MORE -- ONE IS MORE INTRUSIVE TO YOUR FINANCIAL LIFE. SO IN MY OPINION, IT WILL HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT ON GETTING PEOPLE TO SERMON OFFICE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO EXPOSE ALL OF YOUR FINANCES.

>> AND CAN I GUESS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOLKS AREN'T SIMILAR TO THAT?

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD GUESS BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT? BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT

SUBJECT TO SUNSHINE. BUT I DON'T >> WITH GOOD FOR US IS NOT GOOD

FOR YOU >>

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.