[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-022 - Review and approval of a Future Land Use Map Amendment by owner Resurrection Life Family Worship Center, Inc., to change the future land use from Medium Density Residential, RM, to High Density Residential, RH, of 4.883 acres of the parcel located at 1910 S. Jenkins Road Fort Pierce, FL 34947. Parcel ID: 2418-322-0001-000-5. SECOND READING]

>> CLERK: OKAY, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 22 Ã022, AND ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION IS FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AMENDING THE SUPERLOW FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 1910 JENKINS ROAD FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIDE UNTIL OUR H PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE - - EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ONTHIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD . SEEING NO ONE, IWILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANDENTERTAIN A MOTION .

>> APPROVAL . >> SECOND.

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-023 amending Chapter 117 of the Code of Ordinances entitled "Signs." FIRST READING]

>> MAYOR: MOTION AND THE SECOND, CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> CLERK: ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 117 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ENTITLED SCIENCE. SECTION 117 THE SHAPE OF REPEALING PROVISIONS IN CONFLICT WITH FOUR STATUTE SECTION 553.79 22A PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE MONTHS THE FIRST READING.

>> MR. THOMAS? >> MATTER MENUS AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS WAS THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED SO THEREIS NO NEW INFORMATION . THIS IS JUST HOUSEKEEPING, ONE OF THE STATUTE HAS CHANGED RECENTLY.

BEFORE THERE WAS A 10 DAY LIMIT FOR SIGNS THAT HAD TO BE ISSUED. NOW WE HAVE THE PROCESS BECAUSE OF THIS NEW STATUTE. THERE ARE TWO PROCESSES, THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND THE BUILDING SIDE.

THIS ALIGNS OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE WITH STATE STATUTES.

>> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SAY NO MOVEMENT, I WILL CLOSE THEPUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION .

>> MOTION TOAPPROVE . >> SECOND.

>> CLERK: , >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE 23 Ã

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-024 Amending Chapter 103, Article II "Building Code," Division 2 of the Code of Ordinances Entitled "Building Fees." FIRST READING]

034 AMENDING CHAPTER ONE OF THREE ARTICLE 2 BUILDING CODE ENTITLED PERMIT FEES. PROVIDING AN PERMIT FEES ARE DUE PROVIDING FOR THE DETERMINATION EVALUATIONS ESTABLISHING THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW INCENTIVE AND PROVIDING

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FOR A REFUND APPLICABILITY AMENDING SECTION ONE OF THREE Ã 53 AND PLAN REVIEW FEES AMENDING SECTION ONE OF THREE Ã 54 - - ONE OF THREE Ã55 THE PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE FEE, AMENDING SECTION ONE OF 3.56 PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY FEE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY RECRUITING ALL ORDINANCES ARE PART OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE FIRSTREADING .

>> MR. THOMAS? >> ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED WE ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE NO INCREASES IN FEES WITH THIS FEE SCHEDULE.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS HOUSEKEEPING DURING THE RECODIFICATIONS PROCESS. THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE LEFT OUT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT STATE STATUTE, WE ARE DECREASING OUR FEES IN CERTAIN AREAS.

WE HAVE ADDED INCENTIVE FEES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS AN INCENTIVE WHICH HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLAN REVIEW WITH THE PROCESS THAT IS NOT THE OFFICIAL PLAN REVIEW.

THAT WITH ENOUGH LEATHER TIME IS BEING WASTED IN THE PCR.

THIS IS THE ORDINANCE SIDE AND THE FEE SCHEDULE, THE 17TH.

YOU WILL SEE THIS TWICE, BUT THIS IS JUST THE WORDING OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE FEE SCHEDULE WILL COME AT A LATER DATE.

>> MAYOR: ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ANDENTERTAIN A MOTION .

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR: THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> CLERK:

[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-025 - Final Budget Amendment of the General Fund 2021-22 Budget. FIRST READING]

Ã025, AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 2021 Ã22 BUDGET IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA BY INSERTING IN THE SCHEDULE ATTACHED AND DESIGNATED AS THE 2021 Ã22 FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT THE SINCE SCHEDULE PROVIDE FOR THE INCREASES AND/OR DECREASES IN REVENUE AND APPROPRIATION FROM THE GENERAL FUND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND REVIEW OF ORDINANCES, AND COMP TO EVERPROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE

FIRST READING . >> MAYOR: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY TO DO THIS MR. MIMS? MS. MORRIS?

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 21 Ã22. THIS HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE AUDIT IS PRESENTED. WE HAD AN APPROVED BUDGET OF 47,513,496. WE AMENDING THE BUDGET TO 53 MILLION 599 327.THERE WAS A 4% INCREASE FROM WHAT WAS BUDGETED TO THE ACTUAL. SHE DOES INCREASES THEIR, WHICH WAS GOOD BUT WE HAVE EXPENSES TO GO ALONG WITH THOSE INCREASES. OUR TAXES, MOST OF THOSE WERE OUR UTILITY TAX AND OUR LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX.

THE INCREASES IN THOSE ARE THE MAJOR INCREASES FOR THOSE LINE ITEMS. THE LICENSES AND PERMITS, BECAUSE THAT STICKS OUT AS A 105% INCREASE WAS FROM SITE PLANS. IT WOULD PLANNING AND ZONING FEES. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, MOST OF THAT WAS THE HALF CENT SALES TAX, WE GET THOSE NUMBERS FROM THE STATE WHICH ARE PROPOSED NUMBERS AND THE COST OF INCREASED ACTIVITY IN THE STATE AND OUR PORTION OF THAT.

WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN THOSE LINE ITEMS AS WELL.

ALSO, THERE WAS SOME GRANT FUNDING THAT WE GOT FROM THE STATE AS WELL. THE INTERFUND TRANSFER, YOU SEE THAT $2.2 MILLION, MOST OF THAT IS A RESULT OF WE TRANSFERRED AND THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS FOR THE $2 MILLION PURCHASE WE MADE PROVIDING FOR THE POLICE BODY CAMERA AND THOSE OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT WAS THAT INCREASE.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH THE REVENUE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REVENUE? WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE EXPENSES.

EXPENSES YOU WILL SEE THE INCREASE IN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT. LARGE NUMBERS WERE CONCENTRATED ON, MOST THAT WAS THE RESULT OF ACCRUED COMPENSATION.

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THERE WAS AN EMPLOYEE WHO LEFT AND WE HAD TO DO A PAYOUT.

THEN CITY ATTORNEY, THE DECREASE WAS CONTRACTUAL AMOUNTS. WE DO NOT UTILIZE A LARGE PORTION OF WHAT WAS THE CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT FOR OUTSIDE COUNCIL. IF WE LOOK AT IT, THAT IS THE ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE COST AND SOME OF THE INCREASED EQUIPMEN . PLANNING, THE MAJOR DECREASE, MOST OF THAT WAS THE RESULT OF STAFFING CHANGES.

WE SAVE MONEY THERE. THE POLICE AGAIN, 2 MILLION IF THAT IS FOR THE AXON CAPITAL PURCHASE THAT IS THERE, AND THE OTHER AMOUNT THERE WAS AN INCREASED AMOUNT AND EXPENDITURES SPENT MOST IF THAT IS THE RESULT OF THE SALARY INCREASES THAT WERE APPROVED OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUDGETED. OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE THAT INCREASE COST IS IN CONTRACTUAL AND SOME OF THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE IS, WE HAD SOME THINGS THAT WERE NOT BUDGETED BUT FAILED AND HAD TO BE REPAIRED SO THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.

OUR PARKS AND GROUNDS THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE MOST OF THAT WAS CONTRACTUAL AS WELL. THEN SOME OF THE SUPPLIES, ALSO. SAME WITH STREETS AND DRAINAGE.

IN ADMINISTRATIVE, IS THAT 1.8 MILLION BUT MOST IF THAT IS SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT WENT ALONG WITH THE INCREASED GRANT COST. IF THE COMBINATION OF OUR INCREASED COST AND SOME OF OUR VEHICLE PURCHASES BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS INCREASED. IT WAS ABOVE THAT WAS ACTUALLY BUDGETED AT THE TIME PURCHASE OR ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. WE HAD SOME INCREASES IN OUR DISTRIBUTION, A LARGE PORTION OF THAT WAS ABOUT 100,000 OF I , OR 75,000 AND THAT WAS THE RESULT OF THE 185 DISTRIBUTION FOR THE OFFICES THAT GOES IN OUR GENERAL FUND.

IT ACTUALLY BOOKED OUR GENERAL FUND AND TRANSFERRED RIGHT OUT.

YOU SEE THE INCREASE AS WELL. THEN YOU SEE IN AND OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX THAT WE BUDGET, THERE WAS A LARGE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD A 4.37% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL NUMBERS.

I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A RECORD THEY KNOW THAT THE CITY COMMISSION AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DECREASES, HAD TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

[LAUGHTER]. >> HOW DID FINANCE COME OUT

EXACTLY 0?YOU ARE PERFECT. >> WE ARE THE ONES ALWAYS

WATCHING THE NUMBERS. >> YOU GET TO MANIPULATE THE NUMBERS. [LAUGHTER].

>> WE STAY WITH HIMENDEAVOR IS BUDGETED .

>> MAYOR: AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?

>> ONE GENERAL QUESTION, HE APPROVED BUDGET IS 47,500,000, THE AMENDED BUDGET INDICATES A SHORTFALL OF 6,473,000 IF I'M LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT CORRECTLY.

HOW IS THAT OUTSIDE? >> IS NOT REALLY A SHORTFALL.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ADDITIONAL REVENUE YET ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT CAME IN. EVEN THOUGH OUR EXPENSES INCREASED, WE HAD REVENUE. THAT IS WHY THERE INCREASED.

A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL HAVE SOME GRANT FUNDS CAME IN.

IT WASN'T A BUDGETED REVENUE HOWEVER, WE HAVE EXPENSES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT. WE WILL SEE THE REVENUE INCREASE BUT THE EXPENDITURE INCREASES AS WELL.

>> AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS A 100% OVER REVENUE PROJECTIONS DUE TO ALL OF THE SUBMISSIONS? SO THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING IN THEIR ISN'T ACCOUNTED

FOR ABOUT $6 MILLION. >> THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAD MINOR $2000 DECREASE IN THE EXPENDITURE COST FROM WHAT IT WAS. WE SAVE MONEY THERE, HOWEVER IT WAS COUNTERED BY THE INCREASES WE HAD IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR DIVISIONS. IT NETS OUT ONE DEPARTMENT OR ONE DIVISION MIGHT HAVE SAVED, THIS DIVISION MIGHT HAVE BEEN

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OVER. YOU SEE WHERE WE HAVE THE REVENUE THAT CAME INTO ACCOUNT FOR MOST OF THE INCREASES OR

DECREASES . >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> AND YOU HAVE THE ARPA FUNDS IN THEIR TOO, RIGHT?

>> WE BUDGETED TO USE 1,080,000 FOUR OUR ARPA, HOWEVER I DO NOT HAVE THE TRANSFER BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT WAS REALLY NOT NEEDED, WE HAD REVENUE TO COVER OUR EXPENDITURES.

SO I STILL HAVE THE MONEY SET ASIDE, I HAD TO SHOW THAT I

USED IT FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE. >> WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME TOO,

RIGHT? >> YES, WE HAVE TO USE IN APPALACHIA BEFORE 2025. IMMEDIATELY USING NEXT YEAR.

>> IT IS RESTRICTED. >> WE DID, WE BUDGETED AND DID

NOT NEEDED. >> OKAY, AND YOU QUESTIONS? THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING OF ANYONE LOOKING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> I COULD.

>> MAYOR: THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, CALLED THE ROLL

PLEASE. >> CLERK: MAYOR: THIS IS A STEP WE ALWAYS DO BEFORE WE SEE THE ANNUAL

[e. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-026, Amending Chapter 26, Article II, Noise, Section 26-40 Sound Level Limitations, to restrict noise volume citywide. FIRST READING]

FINANCIAL REPORT, YES. >> CLERK: NEXT BF 23 Ã026, THE ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDING THE COURT ACCORDING TOCHAPTER 26 ARTICLE 2 , NOISE AMENDING AND CLARIFYING SECTION 26 Ã38 SUBSECTION C, MAXIMUM PERSONAL SOUND LEVELS BY USE OCCUPANCY AMENDING AND CLARIFYING SECTION 23 Ã40 SOUND LEVEL LIMITATIONS TABLE 1 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, THIS IS THE FIRST READIN

. >> MAYOR: MR. MIMS:

>> GOOD EVENING MATTER LAYERS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. FIRST THING WE HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF - - OFFICER SPOTS WERE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE SOUND LEVEL METER THAT WE JUST GOT I .

THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE UTILIZE.

WE WILL HAVE A DEMONSTRATION, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.

THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT WE RECENTLY RECEIVED AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE JUST PURCHASED SIX MORE.WE WILL HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE FOR THE SHIFT THAT

NEEDED. >> WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO OTHER UNITS THAT WORK AT NIGHT, SO ONE NIGHT WE SHOULD HAVE TWO OF THESE UNITS AND DURING THE DAY THERE WILL BE ONE OF THESE OUT.

>> BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH OUR EQUIPMENT IF IT WAS FUNCTIONAL, THIS IS BRAND-NEW EQUIPMENT.

WE WILL HAVE THESE ON HAND, HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE IN SHORTLY FROM OUR PROVIDER. THAT IS THE FIRST THING.

>> YOU ARE AT 40 DB RIGHT NOW. >> MAYOR: ANYTHING YOU WANT TO

ADD? >> WE ARE HAPPY TO GET THESE.

WE NEEDED TO UPDATE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAD AND MR. MIMS MADE A LOT OF THESE AVAILABLE TO US.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAME MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, I WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

THIS CAME FROM MY OFFICE. A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WE DECIDED AS TO REVIEWING THE REVISIONS THAT WE WILL LOWER THE SOUND LEVEL LIMITATIONS TYPICALLY FIVE DBC.

THAT WOULD CAUSE AN INCONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AT MY DIRECTION, STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REVISION OF THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED WOULD REDUCE THE SOUND OF LIMITATIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BY 5 DB FOR DBA, DBC AND DBC.

IT WILL ALTER MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED-USE BUILDINGS.

AS WE SEE IN OUR ATTACHED INFORMATION, WE HAVE A LISTING OF OUR NOISE COMPLAINTS AS WELL AS A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF THE CITY OF ST. PETER'S - - EVERYONE IS ALL OVER THE PLACE, THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY. EVERYONE DOES THEIR OWN THING.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ESTABLISH CONSISTENCY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. DEPUTY CHIEF AS THE HUNDRED OR SO SWORN OFFICERS THAT HAVE TO RESPOND TO THESE COMPLAINTS.

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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION AND HELPING OUR CITIZENS AS BEST POSSIBLE.

THIS IS STAFF INITIATED HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND MYSELF ALONG WITH DEPUTY CHIEF ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PROPOSED NOISE ORDINANCE REVISION.

>> THE REASON YOU'RE PROPOSING 55 FOR CONSISTENCY?

>> YES, MA'AM, I WAS DIRECTOR OF THE CITY COMMISSION DURING

OUR DISCUSSION. >> GREAT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MIMS OR DEPUTY CHIEF?

>> IS NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT MORE OF AN OBSERVATION.

SOME OF THE INPUT I HAD RECEIVED RELATIVE TO THE MODIFICATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. I UNDERSTAND THE GENESIS OF THIS AND WHERE THIS ALL DEVELOPED FROM.

I'M ALSO AN ADVOCATE TO SUGGEST THAT HAVING A STANDARDIZATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS PRUDENT. WHERE THE FRICTION POINT I BELIEVE IS HERE, EDGARTOWN IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS.

OUT ON THE ISLAND WE HAVE OUR CHEESE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, THEY ARE MEASURING THEIR DECIBEL LEVELS AT THE PROPERTY LINE WITH NO MUSIC PLAYING, ETC. AND JUST THE BACKGROUND NOISE OF THE OPERATING OF THE RESTAURANT AND OUTDOOR AREAS,

THEY ARE IN VIOLATION. >> I'M USING THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE I'M SURE IT IS TRUE ELSEWHERE. THE EXPLANATION I RECEIVED THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS THAT AT THE FINISH LINE TO THE TURNING PROPERTY GENERATING 64 DB. THE POLICE FARMERS CALLED OUT TO ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE AND IT IS NOT A MILITARY ISSUE, IF THE BUSINESS OPERATION ISSUE TENTATIVELY THEY ARE IN VIOLATION. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE SQUARE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE PREDICAMENT HERE, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL USES SMACK DAB IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT NONCONFORMING BUT THEY ARE HISTORICAL AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER.THIS CONFLICT IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS AFFECTED BY THIS LACK OF BUFFERING BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

I'M SOMEWHAT AT A LOSS TO SAY THAT ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL, BUT I DON'T HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION. THAT IS A REAL PARADOX HERE.

POTENTIALLY, WE HAVE A BUSINESS OPERATION THAT IS AT THE BASELINE OF THE OPERATION THAT IS TYPICALLY IN VIOLATION VIRTUALLY EVERY DAY OF THE WEE .

HOW DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THEREFORE THE POSITION OF ARBITER SO YOU CAN'T FIX IT SO YOU ARE IN VIOLATION? THAT IS THE DIRECTION I'M COMING FROM ON THIS TO SAY W HAVE AN ISSUE. I DO BELIEVE IN A STANDARDIZATION AND I DO BELIEVE IT IS BEST TO LOWER THE OVERALL PRACTICE FOR LEVELS, BUT TO CREATE HARMONY HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING INTO A HORNETS NEST WITH THI. I WISH I HAD A BETTER SOLUTION

TO THROUGHOUT BUT I JUST DON'T. >> I HAVE A QUESTION DEPUTY CHIEF. WHEN YOU GET A COMPLAINT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? DO YOU GO OUT AND TAKE ONE READING, DO YOU DO THREE READINGS, OR OVERTIME?

>> MOST OF OUR COMPANIES COME IN AFTER HOURS SO WE ARE NOT TAKING A READING. THERE IS A CLEAR VIOLATION AND EVEN DURING THE DAY WHEN WE WOULD TICKLE READING, USUALLY IT IS A MATTER OF EDUCATING SOMEBODY ON THE ORDINANCE AND ASKING THEM TO TURN IT DOWN FOR WE NORMALLY GET COMPLIANCE.

>> RIGHT. BUT, WITH SOME WAY TO MEASURE WHICH, IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, IN A PERFECT WORLD WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT.I DO THINK WHAT YOU SAID, I HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

THE WHOLE ISSUE OF NOISE ORDINANCE AND REGULATING IT, I THINK WE HEARD THAT FROM THE EXPERT AT THE CONFERENCE AGENDA .IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS, DEPENDS ON A LOT OF FACTORS.

>> THE EXAMPLE THAT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK POSTED ON WILL BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE BUSINESS AND THE CITIZENS.

OF COURSE WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESS AND THE CITIZENS

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TO COME TO A SOLUTION. MAYBE THERE'S SOME ADVICE WE CAN OFFER, TAKES DIFFERENT READINGS TO SEE IF THEREADINGS ARE ACCURATE . WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO BE

FAIR AND OBJECTIVE. >> MAYOR: I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MATTER THAT THE POLICE, YOU QUITE HONESTLY HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.

>> FOR MANY PEOPLE IT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE AND THOSE PEOPLE ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO - - HAPPY AND WANT TO COME HERE. IT IS A BALANCE FOR US.

>> YOU KNOW I HAVE TO. BUSINESS IS LIKE ARCHES.

ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE BY ARCHES, WHEN READING THIS I DO NOT SEE THAT MANY COMPLAINTS COMING FROM THAT SIDE PERMITTING THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

>> THERE WAS ONE FOR YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL ANYBODY TO GO TO AN ESTABLISHMENT AND WHISPER. BUT AT SOME POINT, IF WE ARE UNIFIED COME AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO STEP INTO IF IT IS NOT A HORNETS NEST, IT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

BECAUSE AGAIN, I WILL SAY IT LIKE I SAID IN THE OTHERHEARING . WHEN KING'S LANDING AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF COMES DOWNTOWN THAT WE HAVE APPROVED, THERE IS GOING TO BE NOISE. IT IS DOWNTOWN.

THE START AND JUST DO IT. THE COMPLAINTS I AM GETTING RIGHT NOW, TODAY IS THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING NOW IS PARKING THESE VEHICLES WITH 20 SPEAKERS ON IT.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND RIGHT AFTER CHURCH OR WHATEVER, NOT A BUSINESS BUT A PARKING LOT BLASTING MUSIC THAT YOU CAN HEAR SIX BLOCKS OVER IT.THOSE ARE THE COMPLAINTS THAT I'M GETTING NOW. IF I START SOMETHING AND NORMALIZE SOMETHING FOR THE WHOLE CITY, WE CAN MOVE THE NEXT STEP TO FIX WHATEVER PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A FINAL SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM, BUT THIS IS THE RIGHT STEP TO GIVE US SOME TYPE OF NORMALCY.

THEN WE SEE OKAY, WE WILL SEE HOW THIS WORKS, AND GO FROM HERE. NOW, I'M GLAD THE MAYOR SAID WHAT SHE SAID. THE LAST THING I WANT IN THE LAST THING ANYONE WANTS IN FORT PIERCE IS TO TAKE AN OFFICER OFF THE STREET PROTECTING AND SERVING TO GO HOLD UP TO HOLD THE MICROPHONE. AT SOME POINT, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WANTS ENJOYMENT IN THEIR LIFE, I GET IT.

AT SOME POINT, COMMON SENSE IS TO COME INTO PLAY.

IF YOU HAVE ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS BEEN THERE, YOU KNOW THEY WILL MAKE NOISE. AT A CERTAIN TIME IN ALL THIS IS SUPPOSED TO START. MY RESIDENCE COME ON A RESIDENCE. I WILL SAY IT, I KNOW I GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE. THE LAST THING THAT I WANT IS WHEN I NEEDED OFFICER OVER YOUR SAVED MY LIFE AND HE IS HERE HOLDING UP A METER TALKING ABOUT OKAY, IT'S 60, 59.8.

I'M HAVING A HARD PROBLEM WITH THIS.

I UNDERSTAND AND TRUST ME TO MY RESIDENCE, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE MORE THAN I WANT TO UNDERSTANDTHE ISSUE .

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I READ ALL THE EMAILS AND ALL THE STUDIES AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE HISTORY AND UNDERSTAND IT.

IT'S NOT THE ONLY COMPLAINT THAT I GET.

IF WE MAKE A CHANGE, LET'S PROTECT EVERYBODY.

AT LEAST WE ARE DOING SOMETHING AND LET'S SEE HOW IT WORKS.

ONCE IT WORKS, TRUST ME. THE AUDIENCE WILL BE GOING TO SAY HEY, THAT NUMBER IS NOT WORKING AND IT IS HURTING MY BUSINESS. AS COMMISSIONERS AT THAT POINT, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.THIS IS THE SIXTH OR SEVENTH MEETING ON THIS LIST. I AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

NORMALIZE IT, MOVE FORWARD AND SEE HOW IT WORKS, THEN WE WILL GO FROM THERE.THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

>> I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TAKE OVERALL ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY.

IT IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE ENFORCEMENT ASPECTS OF RULES AND ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN PLAY INSTEAD OF IN LIEU OF CREATING ADDITIONAL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE THEN GOING TO HAVE TOAGAIN ENFORCE . TO ME, WHEN I LOOK AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION FORM FROM JANUARY 2022 TO DECEMBER 2022, IS ONLY A FEW DOZEN. I DO NOT COUNT THE NUMBER BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 30 TO 40 TOTAL. WE DON'T HAVE AN ALARMING RATE OF NOISE COMPLAINT ISSUES. WHEN I DON'T HAVE AN ALARMING RATE OF DISTURBANCES OR SOME PART THAT IS CAUSING A RED FLAG, I JUST DON'T SEE THE RED FLAG I SHOULD SAY.

HERE WE ARE, I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO BECONSISTENT .

I PROPOSE THAT WE LOOK AT THIS BY THE INDIVIDUALIZED DISTRICTS,EDGARTOWN BEING ONE OF THEM .

IN TALKING ABOUT IT, I LIKE STANDARDIZATION BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT OVERALL ON QUALITY OF LIFE, WHETHER IT BE QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE YOU WERE IN A RESIDENCE OR QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE I LIKE TO GO TO AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS OUTDOOR SEATING.

A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THERE NOW WE HAVE NEW DEVICES WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE A FERMENTING SOME NEW MEASUREMENT TECHNIQUES. WE WILL END UP WITH ZERO OUTDOOR SEATING ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THEY SOMEWHAT COMMISSIONER JUST TALKED ABOUT AND TESTIMONY FROM FOLKS HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO US.

I THINK YOU WILL BE CHALLENGED LOOKING FORWARD WITH DISTRICTS WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENTS OR WALKABLE AMENITIES THAT YOU CAN GO TO ARESTAURANT OR GROCERY STORE OTHER . I'LL HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR COMMENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN NOW THAT WE HAVE IS EQUIPMENT, I'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ESTABLISHING THE EQUIPMENT AT A LOCATION AND DOING A MEASUREMENT OVER TIME BECAUSE OF HOURS OF OPERATION? ARE WE GOING TO IMPLEMENT

TECHNIQUES LIKE THAT? >> WE COULD DO THE APPLICATIONS SEEM TO BE COMING UP ON THE RADAR.

OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT WANT TO RANDOMLY DO THATAROUND THE CITY

, BUT WE COULD. >> LIKE I SAID, I HAD A LITTLE DIFFERENT TAKE. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF ITERATIONS WITH EDGARTOWN. HE ALL THE SETTLEMENT WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE . NOT SAYING WE WILL HAVE MANY HISTORIC SPACES AND TENACITY DON'T NEED TO BE IN TUNE WITH, BUT WHAT I AM IN FAVOR OF IS THE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF IT.

AND USING SCIENCE TO OUR BENEFIT AS THE PRESENTER AN EXPERT CAME TO TELL US ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF NOISE AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF DECIBEL READINGS.

I AM LOOKING AT THE OTHER AGENCIES AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE NEAR US AND HONESTLY, IT'S MELBOURNE WHERE THERE ARE

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SHIFTS BASED ON THE TIME OF DAY IN LIEU OF OTHER PARAMETERS OR

OPTIONS. >> IS ALL OVER THE MAP WHEN I

LOOK AT IT. >> IT IS.

FOR US TO GO TO THAT LEVEL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE BEEN MEASURED HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING, BUT I'M IMAGINING THAT A FEW OF OUR COMMENTS IF WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE IN THIS ROOM, HE WOULD EXCEEDED BY A LOT.

THAT IS WHY AM COMMISSIONERS, THAT IS MY EVALUATION AND A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH FOLKS.

IT'S THE PART OF THE SUMMER WE HAD A RULE IN PLACE THAT NOT EVERYONE WILL FOLLOW THE RULE NOW BECAUSE THE CITY COMMISSION CHANGED THE SPEED LIMIT SIGN THAT LIKELY TO HAPPEN UNTIL WE START TO ENFORCE IT . BASED ON THE LIMITED NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ON THE LIST, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE THAT CALL AND THAT DECISION AT THIS POINT.

I'LL HAVE ENOUGH THAT IS TO SAY IT WARRANTS A CHANGE BECAUSE IT

IS ALARMING RATE OF ISSUE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. THIS IS AGAIN MY ISSUE WITH THIS IF WE START THINKING WHICH POCKETS WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK AT SQUARE ONE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE CALLS AND GET THE EMAILS, WHY ARE YOU TREATING THE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY DIFFERENT THAN THE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY DIFFERENT THAN THE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY? IF THIS OVERALL AND EVERYONE HAS BEEN TREATED THE SAME, THEN WE CAN BUILD OFF OF THAT.

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DATA, BUT I'M NOT READY TO GRANT A NOISE REDUCTION FOR ONE PART OF THE CITY AND I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY THAT WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. I UNDERSTAND YOUR ENFORCEMENT AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT POLICE DOING ANYWAY BUT THAT IS A PART OF THE JOB. THAT IS THE PROBLEM AND A HALF IF WE DON'T DO IT CITYWIDE, HOW CAN WE EXPLAIN TO OTHER RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE WHY WE ARE NOT DOING IT FOR THEM? THAT IS MY CONCERN.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET MORE DATA, I AGREE WITH YOU HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT. I AGREE TO NOT MAKE IT CITYWIDE TAKE A COUPLE OF AREAS, I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY, NOT

JUST ONE OR TWO AREAS. >> I DON'T DISAGREE COMMISSIONER, OTHER THAN ARE THE ON THE LIST? WE NEED THAT INFORMATION. TO ME, CHANGING THE RULES IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS. IF WE DON'T ENFORCE THE RULE, THEN OKAY, WE CHANGE THE RULE, GO TEAM.

IT'S LIKE IN SPORTS OF THE RAPTURE NOT CALLING PENALTIES,

THEN OKAY, ANYTHING GOES. >> LET ME ASK MADAME ATTORNEY.

I DO NOT THE COMPLAINT THAT I AM GETTING HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF I HAVE THOSE COMPLAINTS AND THEY ARE COMING TO ME, CAN I SHARE THEM WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON OR THE CITY MANAGER OR MATTER MAYOR OR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE FINALLY GETTING THESE COMPLAINTS?

OR THAT A VIOLATION? >> MATTER MAYOR, COMMISSIONER GAINES, IF YOU ARE GETTING CONCERNS OR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY WOULD BE REFERRED, OR YOU REFER THOSE COMPLAINTS TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHO THEN CAN DIRECT STAFF APPROPRIATELY TO INVESTIGATE ANY ONGOING ISSUES. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT CONTRACT YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DUE TO SUNSHINE

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ISSUES. THAT IS MY ANSWER TO YOUR

QUESTION. >> SO, BASED ON THAT ANSWER FROM MADAME ATTORNEY, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, THE ONES I GET WALKING THROUGH PUBLIX OR ON THE FIELD, THE ONES I GET SUNDAY MORNING TO THE CHURCH IN ANY OTHER EMAILS I GET, I WILL PUT IN SOME KIND OF DOCUMENT AND GET TO THE CITY MANAGER SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DATA THAT YOU WANT.

IT'S LIKE I GET THE EMAIL SO I CAN ALREADY FORWARD THOSE EMAILS TO MY CITY EMAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO STOP AND GET A SANDWICH AND I'LL TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE AND LEAVING OUT OF CHURCH, CONTACTED THE COMMISSIONER, I THOUGHT IT WAS A COMMUNICATION WITH ME IN THE RESIDENCE OF FORT PIERCE. PATIENT WITH A MADAME ATTORNEY HAS TOLD ME, I WILL SOMEHOW TRY TO PUT THAT IN WRITING AND GET INTO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE GO FROM THERE.

>> THERE IS THE EDUCATION PART OF IT, EVEN FOR ME TRYING TO CALL HIM.I UTILIZE - -, NOT VERY OFTEN BUT I HAVE .

WE GET THE TELL THE AGENCY - - POLICE GO FORTH AND DO GOOD BUT THE EVENT IS OVER. WE CAN MAKE IT 30 DB RIGHT NOW, THEY WILL STILL HAVE 29TH CONVERSATIONIN THE SANDWICH LINE . - - MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE MANNER. I'M NOT SAYING IS NOT POSITIVE BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE ACTION IS WHAT IS POSITIVE.

THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> COMMISIONER: TWO COMMENTS. ONE, I'M QUITE CONCERNED WITH THE OFFICER THAT IS BEING CALLED OUT ON A NOISE COMPLAINT CALLS. - - NORMAL OPERATIONS AND THEY ARE IN VIOLATION. THAT NIGHT WAS THAT OFFICER IN THE POSITION OF JUDGE AND JURY TO SAY WELL, THIS RESTAURANT IS IN VIOLATION SO IT SHOULD BE CLOSED EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE THEY ARE IN VIOLATION, OR THE ISSUE A TICKET.

WHAT WOULD THE PROCEDURE BE IN THAT SCENARIO.

>> INITIALLY THEY WOULD BE GIVEN MORNING THEN THEY WOULD

BE CITED. >> THAT IS A VERY PROBLEM.

THE VERY BASIS OF WHAT THEY DO, THEY ARE IN VIOLATION.

I CANNOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THAT IS A THAT IS OKAY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND WHAT THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY AS FAR AS DENSIT .

THAT IS PROBLEM ONE. GOING BACK TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENT, ESPECIALLY HEARING WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HAD TO SAY TO THIS, MY THINKING IS THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, HOW MANY PROBLEMS ARE WE CREATING? WE KNOW THIS PROBLEM STARTED IN EDGARTOWN AND WAS A VERY VOCAL SCENARIO, VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY HOUSING, ETC. GOING BACK TO THE EDGARTOWN SCENARIO SLOWLY, SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT MOVING FORWARD AND IN THEORY WRONG THAT OUT CITYWIDE.

I CAN ALMOST ASSURE YOU THAT EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT DOWNTOWN, ANYPLACE WITH LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IS INVIOLATION .

HOW FAR ARE WE GOING TO PUT THE OFFICER POSITION OF JUDGE AND JURY TO MAKE THAT DECISION. PEOPLE WILL BE LINED UP OUTSIDE THE DOORS DISPUTED PIECE OF THAT.

WE KNOW THE SOLUTION MAY BE REASONABLE FOR EDGARTOWN, IS A REASONABLE CITYWIDE? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BUT I

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STILL BELIEVE THAT PARITY SHOULD TAKE PLACE BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, WE WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION YET TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. WE ISOLATED THE EDGARTOWN SCENARIO AND THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN PRETTY BE ENOUGH. I THINK THE SOLUTION WAS ALMOST LIKE IT WAS VIABLE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF IT WAS A MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROADSCENARIO . WE BRING IT BACK TO THAT POTENTIALLYAND MONITOR THIS AS IT MOVES FORWARD .

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S COMMENT THAT THERE ARE ONLY 34 COMPLAINTS ISSUED CITYWIDE IN THE LAST X NUMBER OF MONTHS, THAT CARRIES WEIGHT . THE EDGARTOWN SCENARIO WAS SPECIFICALLY PART OF THISBODY TO DEAL WITH I THINK IT WILL BE MORE INCLINED TO SUGGEST, AS GO BACK TO THE ROOTS OF THIS THIN . MODIFY FOR THE EDGARTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS OR FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY AND I WILL SUGGEST BASED ON THIS BODY NOW SIX OR SEVEN TIMES, THAT IN ITSELF IS CREATING MORE COMPLAINTS. THAT IS WHERE I'M COMING FROM THIS, LET'S MINIMIZE THIS AND DEAL WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND, OPEN THIS UP GLOBALLY AND YOU WILL BE SHUTTING DOWN EVERY KNUCKLEBALL COURT IN TOWN TOO, BUT THAT IS A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHERDAY. THAT IS MY TAKE ON IT, LET'S DEAL WITH WHAT WE KNOW IS FIXABLE THEN GET MORE DATA ON

THE BALANCE OF THE ISSUE. >> PLUS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IT FROM 60 TO 55. THE ISSUE WOULD STILL BE ADDRESSED AS 60 NO MATTER WHERE IT WAS, CALL ME? WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO ADDRESS IT.

>> COMMISIONER: MATTER, THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WE BROUGHT UP THE 34 NOISE COMPLAINTS.

WE HAVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. HOW MANY ARE COMING FROM

EDGARTOWN? >> TO THE TOP OF THE ADDRESS.

I AM LOOKING ADDRESSES AND MOST OF THE ADDRESSES ARE OVER IN DISTRICT 1 WHERE THE COMPLAINTS I AM GETTING.

I'M HEARING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS BECAUSE IT IS ONLY BEEN 34 COMPLAINTS. THE 34 COMPLAINTS WE ARE RELYING ON THE CHANGE IT IS COMING FROM ADDRESSES OVER IN DISTRICT 1 WHERE I'M GETTING OFF COMPLAINTS AND THE NOISES.

THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE. IF WE ARE GOING TO USE THOSE COMPLAINTS FOR THE VIOLATIONS AND ALL OF THEM ARE COMING FROM DISTRICT 1 IN THE AREA U.S. 1, THAT IS BUT AVENUE D, 13TH STREET, MOORE AVENUE D, NORTH 25TH STREET, 16TH STREET, 26TH STREET, MIAMI COURT AVENUE L, THOSE ARE DISTRICT 1 PROPERTIES. TO SIT HERE AND SAY THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 34 AND NOT CHANGING IT CITYWIDE HOWEVER, LET'S JUST DO IT FOR EDGARTOWN, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT I'M READING AND WHAT I READ. NOW WE HAVE ONE DISTURBANCE CALL TO ARCHIE'S THAT WAS BACK ON DECEMBER 12 2022.

ONE OUT OF THE 34. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ARCHIE'S. IF THE OWNERS OF ARCHIE'S ARE

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LISTENING OR IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE DON'T BOMBARD ME WITH EMAILS. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THEIR ESTABLISHMENT. DON'T THROW 34 AND THE SALE IS NOT DO IT FOR EVERYBODY. I UNDERSTAND ENFORCEMENT.

EITHER WE WILL TRY TO CHANGE IT OVERALL OR LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS AND THAT THE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO PLAN.

I CAN'T SIT HERE AND VOTE ON SOMETHING WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THE COMPLAINTS WE ARE USING TO MAKE THIS DECISION ON AND ALL THEM ARE COMING FROM DISTRICT , OR MAJORITY OF THEM ARE COMINGFROM DISTRICT 1 . I CAN'T SIT HERE AND VOTE ON

THAT, JUST BEING HONEST. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT GO

AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HEAT MAP AND SEE WHAT THE LOCATIONS ARE WITHOUT GOING BUT ONE BY ONE.

- - CHANGE A RULE THAT IS ON PAPER TO SEE THE ACTION ITEMS IN ENFORCEMENT COME TO LIGHT. I THINK THAT WILL HELP US AND HELP ALL OF US. AT THE SAME TIME, EDGARTOWN IS DIFFERENT AND HAS BEEN DIFFERENT SINCE 2010, 2011 AND 2012, THERE WERE TWO YEARS OF WORK BY CITY STAFF DIRECTED AT THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME TO MAKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT EDGARTOWN. I WILL BE ON SOME EDGARTOWN IS ALL DIFFERENT. SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE ALLOWED IN EDGARTOWN AND NOWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

NOW YOU ALLOW THOSE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

BED-AND-BREAKFAST, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, IT WAS A WHOLE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES WITHIN THE DISTRICT OF EARLY 1900 HOMES THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT BY THE COMMISSION AT THATTIME .

I DON'T WANT TO LUMP EDGARTOWN INTO ALL THIS CONVERSATION EVEN THOUGH EDGARTOWN HORSES AND HAVING A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT NOISE. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD HAVE SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY ACROSS THE BOARD GIVING THE TOOL TO THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE DONE AND ARE DOING THAT TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL GO BACK TO MY PLANNING DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR IS HERE AND THEYWILL HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU . THEY HAVE A CHALLENGE AND WE HAVE A CHALLENGE AS THE LEGISLATORS OF THE CITY TO COME UP WITH UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN EACH ZONING DISTRICT .

IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND HOW WE ZONE PROPERTIES, HOW WE LOOK AT PROPERTIES, THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

IF WE DIAL INTO ONE SUBJECT MATTER, I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND WE WILL LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE DEPUTY CHIEF, IT ELUDED ME AND I DID NOT WRITE IT DOWN BUT MEANT TO. I KNOW WHAT IT WAS, IT WAS REGARDING AUTOMOBILES. WE ALL KNOW THAT AN AUTOMOBILE CAN PRODUCE A LOT OF SOUND AT ANY POINT WHAT ARE THE MEANS OF ENFORCEMENT DOES THE POLICE APARTMENT HAVE FOR AUTOMOBILES

PRODUCING SOUND? >> THERE IS AN OLD STATUTE THAT RECENTLY BECAME CONSTITUTIONAL WITH REGARD TO ELECTRONIC SOUNDS COMING FROM VEHICLES. THAT IS AN EASILY ENFORCEABLE

STATUTE. >> AND THE ARBITER IN THIS CASE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN MAKE AN EVALUATION AND

SAYAND NEED TO CHECK ?>> IS A CITATION.

>> AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT AT A GIVEN TIME?

>> I BELIEVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET FROM THE VEHICLE.

THE EXAMPLE YOU FROM THE TRUCK, THERE IS A STATUTE FOR THAT.

>> AND HOW THE STATUE WENT INTO EFFECT, THAT IS A PART OF THE ARGUMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE, IF I REMEMBER THE STATUTE I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF THE NUMBER OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IF THEY ARE DRIVING DOWN BY THE POLICE CAN'T HEAR IT, THE VIOLATION.

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I WAS A STATE STATUTE RECENTLY PASSED THE POLICE ARE ALREADY TASKED WITH THAT JUDGE AND JURY SO TO SPEAK FROM THE STATE.

I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THIS BACKUP GUYS TO ANOTHER DISCUSSION. WE ARE DISCUSSING ORDINANCE I'VE MADE THAT COMMENT ON RECORD THAT IS ALREADY BEEN ON THE RECORD AGAIN. JUST TO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHERE I STAND. HOWEVER, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THE ENFORCEMENT, YOUR REASON WITH THE ENFORCEMENT AND ITS ORDINANCE. IF WE DO IT, WE NEED TO STICK BYAND ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE, ANYTHING .

WE GET THE AT 100%.I NETTED 20 NO ORDINANCES AND THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING. WE ARE FOOLING OURSELVES GUYS IF WE ARE THINKING THAT THIS PROBLEM IS JUST GOING TO GO AWAY TONIGHT. WE ARE FOOLING OURSELVES.

WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD DOWNTOWN TO BE A DESTINATION PLACE FOR EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. EVERY AREA DIMENSION, THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HEAR THATNOISE .

IF WE WANT TO PASS THE BUCK AGAIN I SAY WE NEED MORE DATA I AM FINE WITH THAT. IF YOU WANT TO PULL OUT THE LIST AND GET A MAP COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WE CAN GET THE STAFF TO DO THAT. WE HAD A PRESENTATION THAT GUY SIT UP THERE WITH ALL THE INFORMATION.

WE HAD THE PRESENTATION AND ALL OF US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IT, DBC NOW? FOR THE PUBLIC IT IS BASED, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT NOW. NOW WE KNOW.

SO AT THIS TIME, LET'S PUT IT TO A VOTE AND HOWEVER ENROLLED, IT ROLLS, THEN WE GO FROM THERE.

WE'VE ALL SAID ENOUGH ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU PICKED A GOOD ONE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIS INPUT, BUT I AM PRETTY SURE HE IS GIVING THE SAME CALLS AND THEN ATTEND THE BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING COMMISSIONER.

LET'S MAKE A MOTION, LET'S MAKE A VOTE.

>> MAYOR: WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.

>> COMMISIONER: I AM SORRY, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC, THAT IS WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.

>> MAYOR: THANK YOU SIR, DON'T GO AWAY.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND YOU ARE VERY WELCOME HERE. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND HE WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING AT THREE SECONDS.

I'M SORRY, YOU CAN'T. >> SPEAKER: (STATES NAME AND ADDRESS). I CALLED MARCH 3.

IF I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON ANY KIND OFNOISE I WILL BE CALLING ON THE WEEKEND .

I CALLED MARCH 3 AND I DID NOT WANT TO CALL, IF YOU LISTEN TO MY 9-1-1 CALL YOU WILL HEAR THAT I SAID TO THEM HELLO, I DON'T WANT THE POLICE FOR THIS BUT I HAVE NO CHOICE.

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- - [INAUDIBLE] AT A CONCERT. IT STARTS SOMETIMES AT 12:00 AND THEY WILL PLAY FOR A WHILE, THEY WILL GO OFF AND COME BACK.

THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT IT STARTED AT 7:30 AND I CALLED ABOUT 9:30. THEY HAD THE STROBE LIGHT AND EVERYTHING, THEY'RE HAVING A PARTY.

I PARTICULARLY CALLED COMMISSIONER JOHNSON LAST YEAR BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE WOULD BE SO MANY. WE HAD THIS PROBLEM OVER AND OVER APPEARED IN FACT, YOU CAN'T HEAR YOUR OWN TV OR ANYTHING.THEN WHEN THEY ARE SELLING FIREWORKS ON U.S. 1, THEY START AT ABOUT6:00 . JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, I HAD TO GO CLEAN UP MY YARDFROM FIREWORKS .

IT'S THE BIG BOMB ONCE. THAT IS TO BE TAKENCARE OF .

WHEREAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE POLICE TOLD ME THAT HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL 11:00. HE WAS STAYING IN MY FRONT YARD AND CANNOT HEAR ME TALK. HE SAID HE HAD ALREADY GONE OVER THERE, HE SAW THE SPEAKERS, COULD HEAR THE NOISE, CALLED THE SECOND TIME AND SAID HE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL 11:00.

THE SEVEN GOING OUT AND 7:30. I HAVE THE VIDEO TO PROVE IT.

IF THEY WANTED TO CALL EVERY WEEKEND, I DON'T THINK I SHOULD HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE FOR THAT.

BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THAT SAVES LIVES AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. MY HUSBAND HAS HAD A QUADRUPLE BYPASS, HE HAS TWO STENTS AND CANNOT REST IN THE OWN HOUSE.

HAVING A PARTY IS NOT AN ISSUE, BUT IT IS SO LOUD THAT YOU CANNOT VIEW YOUR OWN TV. I HAVE CALLED HER PERSONALLY ABOUT THIS NOISE AND THE REASON WHY HAVE NOT CALLED CONTINUOUSLY IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR IT. WE WILL START CALLING BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, IT NEEDS TO BE LOWER.

A RESIDENTIAL AREA CAN HAVE THE SAME NOISE LEVEL THAT A COMMERCIAL PLACE HAS. I HAVE VIDEOS WITH THE STROBE LIGHTS, ESPECIALLY THIS WEEKEND COMING UP, THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

IT WILL START ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND I WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS ON FRIDAY NIGHT, SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY NIGHT.

>> MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL TRY IT IN THREE MINUTES MATTER MAYOR.

(STATES NAME AND ADDRESS). IT IS GOOD TO BE HERE AND ME AND SEE ALL OF YOU. WHEN YOU FIRST START OFF BY SAYING THAT THERE ARE COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. I MADE MEASUREMENTS AT 6:15 AM SUNDAY MORNING THIS PAST AND WE ARE BETWEEN 65 AND 70 DB AT THAT TIME. HOMOGENEITY, CONSISTENCY ACROSS JURISDICTIONS FLIES IN THE FACE AS TO WHY YOU DO DISTRICTING ALTOGETHER OR WHY YOU DO RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL THIRD I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT AS A GENERIC ISSUE.

IT WILL BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE USE OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE LOCATION THAT YOU HAVE. THE WAY THIS PROCESS WORKS, ACTUALLY GETTING THE METER THAT I'VE USED, I HAVE A SOUND METER WITH ME TONIGHT. BY THE WAY, YOUR ANSWER MR. JOHNSON IS 62.5 DB WAS THE PEAK LISTENING TO YOU TALK.

IT IS ACCURATE TO THE SAME METERS THAT YOU HAVE.

IT WAS DEMONSTRATED EARLY THAT THEY WERE EQUAL.

THE WAY THE PROCESS WOULD WORK IS WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON AT ARCHIE'S. SOMEBODY COMES OUT, A POLICE OFFICER COMES UP BECAUSE OF THE COMPLAINT AND MEASURES THE SOUND LEVEL. THE AMBIENT SOUND LEVEL IS 12 DB OVER WHAT YOU WANT NOW THERE IF YOU GO TO 55 IT WOULD BE 17? 17 OVER ALREADY WITH NO ACTIVITY.

IT'S UNENFORCEABLE.I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, IT CAUSES US TO HAVE A COMPLETELY ELIMINATE LIVE MUSIC OUTSIDE ESPECIALLY. THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS IS WAY OFF. I HEARD THE POLICE AT ARCHIE'S 23TIMES IN THE PAST SIX WEEKS . FINALLY AFTER THE 21ST OR 22ND

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TIME, I LOOKED AT THE OFFICER AND SAID YOU HAVE TO CITE ME.

IF YOU DON'T CITE ME, I'LL HAVE THE RECORD AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE. WE HAVE ALREADY MADE THAT REQUEST AND HE WAS AT MY INSISTENCE, YOU WILL HAVE THE ONE BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE IS LAST DECEMBER.

THIS ALL STARTED AT THE BEGINNING THERE WERE THREE POINTS THAT IWANTED TO MAKE. I SENT YOU A LETTER AND APPARENTLY NOBODY GOT IT . THE THREE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE, ONE I'VE ALREADY SAID.

SHIFTING SOUND LEVELS TO 60 DB IS THE EQUIVALENT OF ELIMINATING THE POSSIBILITY OF OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT.

CAN'T DO IT, IT IS POSSIBLE. THE SECOND THING, THIS IS THE MOST DISTURBING ONE, WE ARE CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR, ONE NEIGHBOR MADE ALL THOSE CALLS.

AS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOUND. IT HAS TO DO WITH OTHER THINGS

WE ARE DOING. >> MAYOR: OH DEAR, YOUR TIME IS

UP. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE CANCELED

MUSIC AT ARCHIE'S. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME

FORWARD. >> SPEAKER: (STATES NAME AND ADDRESS). I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY ON THIS. I WAS LOOKING UP SOME CASE LAW STATE OF FLORIDA VERSUS CATALINA FC 11 Ã1136.

ACCORDING TO THIS, THIS WENT TO THE SECOND DCA AND DID RULE THAT THIS IS UNENFORCEABLE AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT IS ALSO STATING THAT IT IS FLORIDA STATUTE 316.30 45 - - UNCONSTITUTIONALLY VAGUE AND OVERBROAD AND ARBITRARILY UNENFORCEABLE. IT INFRINGES ON THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS EVEN COMING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE A DECISION. YOU GUYS CANNOT STOP PEOPLE FROM FREEDOM OF SPEECH. THEY LOVE THEM, THEY WALKED THEM, I CAN IMAGINE WHY ANYONE WOULD WANT TO RESTRICT ARCHIE'S WHETHER IT IS PURE CIDER WORKS OR - - REFER BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN AS I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE, THEY ARE ALL SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL PEOPLE.

THE LOCAL PARENTS, KIDS, THEY PAY THE BILLS.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE IN A COUPLE OF MUSICIANS, TO SPEAK OF THE PERFORMING AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT LAW, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM, ANYONE ELSE LOOKING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE?

>> SPEAKER: (STATES NAME AND ADDRESS).

RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SQUARE GROUPER.

UP UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO, EMPLOYED BY ARCHIE'S AS A MUSICIAN. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE LAST TIME I TO COME TO TALK AT ONE OF THESE, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.

THERE WAS NOTHING WHEN I MOVED HERE, YOU BETTER THAN AGREAT JOB OF BUILDING UP TOURISM . EVERY ONE OF THOSE PLACES ON THE ISLAND IS BASED ON LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

IF YOU WANT TO SHUT US DOWN, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO

DO. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THECOMMISSION ON THE SUBJECT ? LAST CALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

I THINK IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT THAT WE ARE IN A TOURIST AREA AS WELL AS PEOPLE LIVING HERE.

FLORIDA IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE YEAR-ROUND OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT OF ALL KINDS. I THINK THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED US THIS ANGST BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND IT AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ESTABLISHMENTS ARE THRIVING AND HAVE LOTS OF VISITORS AND MUSICIANS MAKE GOOD MONEY. I THINK REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHETHER IT IS 60 OR 55, IT IS DIFFICULT TO

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ENFORCE. IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO THIS KIND OF BUSINESS PERIOD I THINK, THAT IS WHAT I AM HEARING

WHETHER IT IS 60 OR 55. >> MADAME MAYOR, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC. THE CURRENT NOISE ORDINANCE IS 60. WE JUST HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF 60.

WHATEVER WE DO, IT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS AT 60.

THE GENTLEMAN SAID 23 COMPLAINTS AT 60.

IF YOU MOVE IT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? LEAVE IT AT 60? IF WE LEAVE IT AT 60 THEN IT GOES BACK TO COMMISSIONER BRODERICK THING IS JUST ACCURATE CORRECT? IT IS JUST A YOUR TOWN.

WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES SAYING WHY EDGARTOWN? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE DISCUSSION AGAIN ABOUT THE ORDINANCE CREATED BECAUSE I

HOURS IN MY OPINION ON THAT. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

I HONESTLY THINK IT IS THE SAME EITHER WAY, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. IF IT IS UNENFORCEABLE AT 60 ALREADY, IT WILL BE UNENFORCEABLE AT 55.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TECHNOLOGY TO MEASURE IT.

>> MADAME MAYOR, I THINK THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE COMMISSIONER GAINES IS THAT I'M NOT LOOKING TO OVERSHOOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL ISSUE WAS HERE. IF YOU LOOK INTO THE DETAIL MY NEW SHARE OF THE - - COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER, - - OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF AREAS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT . THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY DRAFTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORICAL NATURE BUT IT IS ALSO PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN AND A LOT OF TOURIST TYPE USE BEING PROMOTED AS A TOURIST AREA BECAUSE EDGARTOWN WAS ORIGINALLY GREENHOUSES, SHORT-TERM RENTALS AS HE REFERRED TO IT NOW WAS ALL IN THAT ORDINANCE. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE ARE TRYING TO CONTROL ONE ASPECT OF THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

I WOULD BE CHALLENGED TO SAY I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SAYING THAT 60 DB LEVEL IN THE BALANCE OF THE 60 CITY IS NOT BEING REPORTED OR ENFORCED, OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

NOW WE HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERTAKE THAT MISSION, SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE IS A DISPARITY OR AN IMBALANCE BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR EDGARTOWN. WE LOOKING AT EDGARTOWN BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CREATES EDGARTOWN. THE BALANCE OF THE CITY IS CONTROLLED BY SPECIFIC ZONING, ETC. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT AS THE YOUNG LADY WAS COMMENTING ON EARLIER WITH BOOKCASE SIZED SPEAKERS, THAT 60 DB IS NOT BEING ENFORCED.

EDGARTOWN IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.SOUTH BEACH IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.AVENUE D AND LINKIN PARK, ALL OF THESE HAVE SLIGHT NUANCES, BUT EDGARTOWN WAS DESIGNED WITH THE OVERLAY TO ADDRESS THE TYPES OF SOFT COMMERCIAL TYPE ADAPTATIONS. IF THE YOUNG LADY - - THAT IS WELL OVER 60 DB. THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM IS WHAT BECOMES CRITICAL HERE. NOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS PROPERLY GEARED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS ENFORCEMENT, AND MY MIND I HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH SUGGESTING EDGARTOWN BECAUSE OF HIS PARTICULAR NUANCES, GREAT.

WE GO AHEAD AND PUT INTO PLACE AT 55 AND KEEP THE REST THE CITY THE U.S. 60 CURRENTLY. IT PARTICULAR TO CONSENT TO DICTATE, YOU KNOW WE WILL BE REVISITING THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS FAR FROM OVER, BUT THE EDGARTOWN SCENARIO SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ITS ORIGINS AND ITS DEFINITIONS IN THOSE ORDINANCES

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IS WHAT I'M GRAVITATING TOWARDS TO SAY THAT IS A VERY PARTICULAR SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT IS CREATED THIS PROBLEM.

IF ENFORCEMENT TAKING PLACE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CITY AT 60 DB, I BELIEVE A MAJORITY OF THOSE COMPLAINTS WILL BE DEALT WITH. I COULD BE WRONG, WE'LL HAVE DATA TO SUPPORT ANY OF THAT, I'M SPECULATING BASED ON WHAT MY OBSERVATIONS HAVE BEEN. THE WIND TURNS OUT OF THE NORTH AND DRIES OUT I CAN HEAR EVERY MAN THAT IS PLAYING I'M SIX BLOCKS AWAY. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PROBLEM, I'M SAYING IT IS BECAUSE OF HOW THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EDGARTOWN IS THAT SPECIFIC AND

OTHER AREAS MAY BE AS WELL. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK , THIS IS MY FINAL COMMENT ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD BEEN SEATED MOMMY HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. THERE IS THE DISCUSSION THAT IT WILL NOT BE HELD UP IN COURT, YOU WILL RELY ON THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE HEARD IN THIS CHAMBER THAT MIGHT NOT BE HELD UP IN COURT. THAT IS MY PROBLEM.WE HEARD THAT THERE IS CASE LAW OUT THERE WITH SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE MORE STRICT THAN THAT ORDINANCE THAT WAS KICKED OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BUT I CAN'T ALIGN THAT ORDINANCE.

MY LEGAL BRAIN WILL NOT MEET ALL RELY ON THE ORDINANCE WHENEVER THE CASE LAW THAT I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. SO AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ON THIS. IF YOUR PLEASURE IS TO VOTE ON A REDUCTION IN EDGARTOWN, LET'S MAKE THE MOTION CAN MELISSA VOTE AND LET'S MOVE ON AND WE GO FROM THERE.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF OUR MINDS APPEAR TONIGHT BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID.THAT IS WHY AM AT ON THAT. AGAIN, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD AND I KEEP HAVING TO BRING ARCHIE' UP BECAUSE HE IS HERE, WE BROUGHT IT UP . NO ONE IS ATTACKING ARCHIE'S.

I DON'T WANT ALREADY TO STOP PLAYING MUSIC.

I HAVE BEEN TO ARCHIE'S AND I HAVE HEARD THE MUSIC.

I'VE ENJOYED MYSELF, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? I MIGHT'VE ENJOYED MYSELF A LITTLE BIT TOO GOOD SO I WILL LEAVE THAT ALONE. HOWEVER HE IS ALWAYS SAYING HE IS VIOLATING AT 60, IT IS OVER 60.

WE HEARD THE DISCUSSION, I FEEL LIKE I KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY STANDS, LET SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION AND IF THAT IS WHAT YOUR MOTION WANTS TO BE, LET'S DO IT AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE AND

SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT. >> A LOT OF GOOD DIALOGUE HERE.

I WILL THROW A CURVEBALL THAT EVERYONE.

I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE INCREASED BY FIVE, NOT DECREASED BY FIVE. I'M A BASS GUITAR PLAYER, SO I'M A MUSICIAN. THAT PART OF THE MUSIC, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THA , I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THERE ARE ALL WALKS OF LIFE IN THIS ROOM AND ALL DIFFERENT EVALUATION PARAMETERS TO CONSIDER.

WE HAD SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND SHE IS RIGHT.

SHE IS WORRIED ABOUT CALLING 9-1-1.

THAT'S THE PART OF OUR ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO ENTERTAIN BECAUSE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE RESPONDER FOR THAT.THAT IS TOUGH TO SWALLOW , AS A RESIDENCE, COMMISSIONER, ALL OF THE ABOVE BUT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AND THE CITY IS OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE ONE THAT HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM.

THEY WILL DO IT IN THE SAFEST MANNER.

EDGARTOWN IS NOT ON THE TABLE TONIGHT.

I WILL MENTION IT BUT IT IS NOT ONTHE TABLE .

WE TALKING WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE . CERTAIN CHAPTER OR ARTICLE WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES. WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION TO HAVE ON SOUND AND EVALUATION AND MASSAGING OF OUR CODE IN ORDINANCES LIKE WE DO EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY AND HOW WE DO IT WHETHER IT IS ZONING OR LAWFUL RULES AND PROCEDURES, THAT IS WHERE I STAND.

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I CAN'T SUPPORT THE CHANGE IN THE DECREASE OF THE SOUND.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE SOUND THAT IS THERE NOW, OR SOUND LEVELS THERE NOW, THE DECIBEL READINGS AND NOISE ORDINANCES AT A GOOD SPOT. WE OFFER TESTIMONY OR SOME COMMENTS TONIGHT THAT IT IS ACTUALLY CREATING 100S UPON SOME ESTABLISHMENTS. HERE WE ARE APPROVING ZONING AND REGULATION AND PROMOTING FOLKS TO HAVE ENJOYABLE ENTERTAINMENT. WHETHER IT IS TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER AT THE DINNER TABLE OR ENJOINS LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

I CAN'T SUPPORT IS DECREASING THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE EDGARTOWN TO IT BECAUSE I THINK EDGARTOWN IS DIFFERENT.

YOU CAN HAVE A GROUP HOME IN EDGARTOWN AND CAN'T DO ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY. YOU CAN HAVE OUTDOOR LIVE BANDS WITH AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY AND YOU CANNOT HAVE THEN EDGARTOWN. AGAIN, IT WAS STUDIED FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. IT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON FOR ME. THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY, I AM CHALLENGED BY DECREASING IT. IF ANYTHING, I WAS INTRIGUED BY THE CITY AS A STEWART, THEY GO DOWN TO THE LOWER LEVEL AT NIGHTTIME. I THINK THE OTHER CHALLENGES ARE WITHIN THE ENFORCEMENT ARM, HIGHLIGHTING A WORD IT? EVERY INDIVIDUAL OR RESPONDING PERSON COMES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR ZONING MAP WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY ARE RECEIVING BODY IS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T DO THAT, WE HAVE THE TOOLS AND THE PARAMETERS AND TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT.

THAT IS ANOTHER PART OF IT THAT INTRIGUED ME WITH THE CITY OF STUART.THEY SAID HERE IS THE NUMBER, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE YOU STAND, WHAT RECEIVING BODY YOU ARE.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT COME I'M JUST SAYING I FOUND IT TO BE INTRIGUING. I CAN'T SUPPORT THE DECREASE TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: SO, WE HAVE TO REALLY MAKE A DECISION, WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW IS 60 CITYWIDE, RIGHT? DO YOU PERCEIVE A PROBLEM IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT IN THE EDGARTOWN SECTION VERSUS ALL THE REST OF

THE CITY? >> MADAME MAYOR, NO AS LONG AS THE CITY COMMISSION CAN JUSTIFY RATIONAL BASIS FOR WHAT IS BEING DONE IN EDGARTOWN. AGAIN, THAT ORDINANCE IS NOT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY. WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS CITYWIDE NOISE ORDINANCE.

YES, IT CAN BE JUSTIFIED. >> THEY CAN HAPPEN BUT IT HAS

TO BE JUSTIFIED? >> CORRECT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT THE COMMISSION TO KEEP IN MIND THEY SENT ME LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION.

NUMBER ONE, AS FAR AS EDGARTOWN IS CONCERNED, THERE WERE SPECIFIC DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY. THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH A DISTINCTION ABOUT ACOUSTIC MUSIC FIRST AMPLIFIED MUSIC.

AFTER DISCUSSION OF EDGARTOWN, THE FIRST MEETING DECIDED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE RATHER THAN LEAVE IT IN PLACE WHEN THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT DISTINCTION CREATES A LEGAL PROBLEM, THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO CORRECT IT AND RECOMMENDED THAT WE FIX A SPECIFIC DECIBEL LIMIT. THAT WAS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSION RECEIVED FROM THE DIFFERENT PARTIES AT STAKE AND FROM THE EXPERT.

I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT I PUT THAT INTOPERSPECTIVE .

ANOTHER THING THAT YOU SHOULD KEEP IN MIND IS THAT SHIFTING AWAY FROM EDGARTOWN NOW TO THE CITY BY NOISE ORDINANCE, AFTER 11:00 P.M., WE ARE MOVING OUT OF THE CATEGORY OF MEASUREMENT . THOSE MEASUREMENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED AFTER 11:00 P.M. IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY.

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BASED ON THE TIME TO THESE CALLS ARE COMING IN, IF THEY ARE COMING AFTER 11:00 P.M., WE DON'T NEED IS THE NOISE - - IF IT IS DISRUPTIVE AND THEN A POLICE OFFICER FINDS THEM, THEY CAN FIND - - SITE THEM LATER ON IF NECESSARY.

IF WE ARE IN THE TIME PERIOD BEFORE 11:00 P.M., COMMISSION GAINES MADE A REFERENCE TO THE COMPLAINT AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING BEFORE THEN, THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE. YET STANDARDS IN PLACE FOR BEFORE 11:00 P.M., THEY ARE TO BE MEASURED BY THE NEW EQUIPMENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

>> SO WHAT IS 60 AT RIGHT FOR THE CITY IN THE FIVE EDGARTOWN

WHICH IS TWO OR THREE BLOCKS. >> I FORGET HOW MANY PARCELS,

BUT IT'S 25 OR 30 PARCELS. >> THIS SMALL, TINY PLACE.

IF WE GO WITH WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT OF, SOMEBODY CALLING AND COMPLAINING BEFORE 11:00 IN THE COMES OUT AND GETS MEASURED. THE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC, TALKED PABOUT WHAT THEY HAD AND WHATEVER TIME THAT WAS SCREWED THAT IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE WELL OVER 60 IT SOUNDS LIKE TO

ME. >> IT SOUNDS THAT WAY.

I DO NOT MEAN TO BE FLIPPANT WHEN I TOLD COMMISSIONER GAINES TO REFER COMPLAINTS TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, OBVIOUSLY THAT DOES NO GOOD THE MONDAY AFTER SOMEBODY HAS BEEN UP ALL MY ALL WEEKEND. THE ONLY OTHER WAY TO GET ENFORCEMENT IS TO ALERT LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THEY CAN GO OUT AND TAKE NEXT STEPS TO THE EXTENT WE CAN WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO EDUCATE THEM AS TO WHAT IS ON OUR BOOKS RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET BETTER ENFORCEMENT, I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT AND BRING IN ANY OUTSIDE OR OTHER RESOURCES NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABLE TO ENFORCE WHAT ARE ON THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMMISSION DECIDES TO DO TODAY.

>> MAYOR: IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EDUCATIONAL FOR US TO KNOW HOW THESE OTHER CITIES HANDLE THEIR COMPLAINTS AND HOW THAT WORKS.

THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT, THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. SO, IS THERE A MOTION? ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS COMMISSIONER CHRIS JOHNSON IS NOT HERE AND I THINK HE IS VERY INTERESTED IN THIS SUBJECT. DOES THIS HAVE TWO READINGS? IS THAT RIGHT? DOES THE COMMISSION FEEL COMFORTABLE IN MAKING THE DECISION TONIGHT IN THE FIRST READING THAT ALLOWING HIM TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE SECOND READING? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

>> I THINK IN AN EFFORT NOT DISTAL WITHOUT ANY FURTHER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

THAT WAY, YET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HIS OPINIONS OUT THERE.

THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SWAY THE OUTCOME.

TO MOVE IT ALONG, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> SO, MADAME MAYOR, I HAVE NOT HEARD A MOTION YET.

DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT MOTION IS, IF THERE IS A MOTION NOT TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AT ALL, WE WOULD NOT BE MOVING TO A SECOND READING UNLESS STAFF WERE TO BRING YOU BACK TO THINK

DIFFERENT.>> MAYOR: VERY GOOD POINT.

IF THIS EDUCATIONAL HAS NOT PASSED THE MOTHER WILL BE THE

SECOND READING.>> THIS CERTAINLY WARRANTS A SECOND READING WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HERE COMMISSIONER GAINES, I KNOW YOU SUPPORT IS ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, DO YOU

WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> COMMISIONER:BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, WE COULD ALSO TABLE IT IF WE NEED MORE INPUT FROM OUR

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FELLOW COMMISSIONER . I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND BUT IT IS AN

OPTION. >> I AM READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSION, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS, IT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT WE TABLE ORDINANCE 23 Ã 026 TWO GIVE FELLOW COMMISSIONER CHRIS JOHNSON A CHANCE TO VOICE HIS CONCERNS, OR HIS APPROVAL AT THE HEARING.

SO, IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO A SECOND READING, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO. IT IS UNFAIR TO MOVE FORWARD

WITHOUT HIS INPUT. >> TO WE HAVE TO DO IT UNTIL A

TIME CERTAIN? >> MADAME MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF IT IS TABLE, WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE ADVERTISE IT AND YOU WILL HAVE THAT FIRST READING WILL BE ADVERTISE AT A LATER DATE. THERE WILL BE TWO MORE READINGS, THE FIRST READING PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND THE SECOND READING PROPERLY ADVERTISED WITH LEGISLATIVE HEARINGS IS APPROPRIATE OR AS REQUIRED.

>> I WILL CORRECT MY MOTION. MADAME ATTORNEY, DO YOU WANT A TIME LIMIT AND IT? I CAN PUT ONE IN.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS RETIRE REQUIRED.

WE WILL BEADVERTISE AND START FROM SCRATCH .

IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO PHRASE IT THATWAY .

>> THANK YOU MADAME ATTORNEY. MADAME MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THE STATE HEARING 23 Ã026.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR: CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> BEFORE WE CALL THE ROPE, IN THEORY, WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS.

WE APPROVE IT, MOVING IT TO A SECOND READING.

ARE WE CREATING THE SAME SCENARIO TO GIVE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HIS VOICE HEARD ON THIS ISSUE, I GUESS I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DELAYING THE PROCESS .

MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, WE APPROVE IT THE FIRST READING, IT THEN COMES BACK BY THE SECOND READING, HE IS A FULL OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE HIS CONCERNS IN UNISON WITH THE REST.

ARE WE CREATING THE SAME THING BY TABLING IT? THE END RESULT IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME OR WE ARE WAITING ON THE FIFTH COMMISSIONER TO ADD HIS VOICE TOTHE DISCUSSION .

I THINK WE ARE JUST CREATING THE SAME SCENARIO VERSUS TABLING IT, WE APPROVE IT, PICKETED A SECOND MEETING AND THIS DISCUSSION TAKES PLACE ALL OVER AGAIN AND HE WILL BE

AVAILABLE TO LEND HIS OPINIONS. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK , FROM WHATEVER TONIGHT, BASED ON HOW I FEEL THAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO GET, IT WON'T GET TO A SECOND READING .

WE ARE EATING WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT APPROVE IT

OR DENY IT. >> I'M SUGGESTING THAT I THINK IT WOULD GET WHEN THE SECOND READING BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE SECOND OPPORTUNITY FOR REVIEW, THAT IS MY OBSERVATION.

>> I UNDERSTAND, I'VE HEARD COMMISSIONERS STATE OF RECORD TONIGHT WHERE THEY FEEL ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.

THAT IS WHAT YOU FEEL THAT I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO TABLE WITH. MAKE A MOTION YOU WANT TO MAKE AND SEE HOW THE VOTE GOES AND THAT IS WHERE IT IS.

MADAME MAYOR, I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON YOU ARE OKAY?

>> I WILL HAVE A SECOND ANYMORE, THE MOTION IS GONE.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

I'M MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE IT TO GET IT TO THE SECOND READING SO WE'LL HAVE THIS BUILT-IN DELAY SCENARIO.

THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN KICKING HIM AROUND AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE AND I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A FULL BODY AVAILABLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ETC. EFFORTS I DO TAKE TO HEART COMMISSIONER GAINES SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU HAVE MADE AS I ALWAYS DO.

HOWEVER IN THIS PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AGENDA MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FULL BODY DIALOGUE ABOUT IN THE SECOND MEETING.IT IS MY ASSESSMENT

THAT CORRECT? >> IF IT PASSES.

I WILL SECOND. >> MAYOR: EVERYONE KNOW WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON? WE ARE PROVING A TONIGHT FOR

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THE FIRST READING. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> CLERK:

THE APRIL 17 MEETING. >> MAYOR: MR. MIMS, DO YOU THINK WE CAN HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE SURROUNDING CITIES ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THEIR ENFORCEMENT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP US MAYBE. WE HAVE NOT HAD A WAY TO ENFORCE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD THE TECHNOLOGY.

NOW WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> NO MA'AM, WE HAVE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY BUT IT WAS ANTIQUATED. THIS IS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL HELP US MODERNIZE OUR OPERATION.

>> MAYOR: OKAY. WE ARE ALL MARSHALING WITH BEING ABLE TO HAVE OUR RESIDENTS HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT, RIGHT? OTHER CITIES MUST HAVE WRESTLED WITH THIS TOO.

>> YES, MA'AM. MADAME MAYOR, WE AFFECTED BY THOSE IN THE PAST.

THE AIM HERE IS TO KEEP THIS IS A VIBRANT, BEAUTIFUL CITY.

THE ONLY THING RETURNED TO FOCUS ON NOW IS CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THAT IS IT.

IT IS ALL A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE.

IF SOMEBODY'S OUT THERE THAT HOOK INTO WALLS AND SHAKING, ALL POLICE WILL GO OUT THERE AND SAY TURN IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS.

WE MAY BE GETTING A LITTLE BIT TOO TECHNICAL AND SCIENTIFIC

AND QUANTITATIVE. >> MAYOR: WHO MAY BE

OVERTHINKING THIS, I KNOW FOR. >> SEEING HOW THIS IS LONG TIME TO GO TALK TO EACH OTHER, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE OVERTHINKING IT, - - TURN IT DOWN. PEOPLE COMPLY.

AGAIN, I GO TO THESE ESTABLISHMENTS.

WE ALL LOVE - - I HOPE YOU'RE NOT MAKING THIS TOO TECHNICAL THIS MIGHT NOT LOOKING FOR BUSINESS FOR THIS IS VERY

COMMON SENSE ISSUE. >> ME TOO.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET

THERE THE BEST WAY. >> QUICK QUESTION MADAME AIRBASE IN THE QUESTION IS ASKED THE CITY MANAGER, MAYBE I AM GETTING QUASIJUDICIAL AND LEGISLATIVE HEARING CONFUSED RIGHT NOW IN MY BRAIN AGAIN, KENT NEW EVIDENCE OR NEW DATA OR INFORMATION BE BROUGHT FROM A FIRST HEARING TO A SECOND

HEARING? >> MADAME MAYOR, THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE HEARING. IF STAFF WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL HEARING INFORMATION - - RELY ON IT.

[a. Resolution 23-R28 Declaring Surplus Property]

>> MAYOR: ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.

>> CLERK: NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 23 ÃR 28 A RESOLUTION DECLARING CERTAIN PROPERTIES ONLY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO BE SURPLUS DESCRIBED AS TWO AND TWO NORTH 18TH STREET CORTEZ PARK BLOCK TWO ON CORONADO AVENUE AND NOBLES AND NOTTINGHAM SUBDIVISION BLOCK ONE LOT 16 ON AVENUE I AUTHORIZING CITY STAFF TO DISPOSE OF SAID PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 5 SECTION 2 Ã425 OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DAT .

>> MR. MIMS? >> MADAME MAYOR, WE HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST HERE MIRIAM GARCIA TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WE

ARE DECLARING A SURPLUS. >> AND INFLECTIONS OF STAFF?

OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL.

[b. Resolution 23-R30 Approving FPUA's FY2021-2022 Final Budget Amendment.]

>> CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >> CLERK: NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 23 ÃR 30, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA APPROVING THE FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY - - ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022 PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A NEW FORMAT THAT WE ARE DOING, A LOT MORE THINGS WILL COME TO YOU BY RESOLUTION AND THIS IS ONE OF

THEM. >> MAYOR: OKAY, WE DON'T

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USUALLY HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THIS.

>> WE ARE CREATING A RECORD FOR THE FUTURE TO ESTABLISH IT IN HISTORY. IT IS MUCH BETTER AND EASIER IF WE DO IT BY RESOLUTION BECAUSE THAT WAY IT IS EASIER TO FIND.

IT IS MORE READILY AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR ANYONE SEARCHING.

>> MORE TRANSPARENT, THANK YOU. >> IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE OF THE CITY COMMISSION. TODAY ONLY, - - JOINING TO PRESENT ITEMS TODAY. HE WILL BE PRESENT THE AGENDA ITEMS 13 B AND C INCLUDING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FY 2022 FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FY 22. THIS IS AN ANNUAL PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS REQUIRED BY CHARTER TO APPROVE THE AUDIT OF THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF FINANCIAL REPORT . IF APPROVED MAP OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THE 6% DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF APPROVAL AS REQUIRED AGAIN BY CHARTER.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FINAL BUDGET MEMBER WAS ADOPTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ON MARCH 21 IN RESOLUTION 2023 Ã03.

A COUPLE OFIMPORTANT METRICS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT . ON PAGE 24 OF THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF FINANCIAL REPORT, YOU WILL SEE HIM SHOULD TO CASH IS STABLE FROM YEAR TO YEAR AT 21.6 MILLION.

PAGE 60, THE DISRUPTION TO THE CITY WHICH THIS YEAR WILL BE 6.758 MILLION WHICH IS A SLIGHT INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR OF 20 $34,000 THIRD BARBARA MICAH WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THIS IS A PART OF HER PRESENTATION. ON PAGE 82 A DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE IS AT 2.47. OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 1.25. THIS IS A REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR WHERE WE WERE AT 3.54. THIS IS THE RATIO OF NET OPERATING INCOME OVER DEBT SERVICE.

IT'S IMPORTANT BENCHMARK USED TO MEASURE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT CASH TO COVER OUR DEBT PAYMENTS.

ALL ARE SENDING OUTSTANDING DEBT CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 88.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> PLEASE PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE COME TO THE CLOTHES OF ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR AND NEVER LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A REVIEW OF OUR FINANCIAL OPERATING RESULTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022. THE INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED AMENDING THE FINAL BUDGET AS WELL AS THE ANGLE CONFERENCE OF FINANCIAL REPORT. THE FINAL BUDGET MOMENT REPRESENTS THE FINAL ACTUAL RESULTS OF THAT POSITION FOR FISCALYEAR 2022 . THE FINAL BUDGET BROUGHT AN INCREASE IN DEPOSITION OF 4.4 MILLION MAINLY AS A RESULT OF INCREASED SALES REVENUE FOR ALL SYSTEMS AND $1.9 MILLION GRANT REVENUE RECEIVED FOR OUR SEWER MAINLINING.

IN COMPARISON TO THE AMENDED BUDGET, FINAL REVENUES CAME IN ABOVE THE EXPECTED, EXPECTATIONS BY 1.9% WHILE THE RELATED EXPENSES WERE LOWER BY 1.2%.

THE MAIN COMPONENTS FOR THE LOWER-THAN-EXPECTED OPERATING EXPENSE CAME THROUGH LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED COSTS FOR PURCHASE POWER OF ABOUT $5 MILLION WITH ADDITIONAL SAVINGS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND PERSONNEL SERVICES.THESE SAVINGS WERE OFFSET BY AN ACTUARIAL TERM INCREASE IN OUR PENSION LIABILITY OF $4.1 MILLION.

SOME OF THE YEAR TO DATE CHANGES THAT WE EXPERIENCE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2072 OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR WERE OUR YEAR-TO-DATE OPERATING INCOME WAS LOWER IN FISCAL YEAR 22 X 6.1 MILLION ALL THE OPERATING REVENUES INCREASED BY 23.7 MILLION. THE GAINS WERE OFFSET BY HIGHER EXPENSES. OUR OPERATING EXPENSES WERE GREATER IN FISCAL YEAR 22 BY 29.9 MILLION OVER THE PRIOR YEAR PRIMARILY AS A RESULT OF INCREASED EXPENSE FOR THE PURCHASE POWER. GRANT REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 ADDED A TOTAL GAIN IN OUR NET POSITION OF 1.8 MILLION.

IN CLOSING OUT THE YEAR WITH JUST LOOK AT THE YEAR-OVER-YEAR CHANGE IN OUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, WE HAVE ADDED ALMOST 4

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MILLION TO OUR NET POSITION. THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES THAT WILL LOOK AT WILL GIVE US THE YEAR-OVER-YEAR CHANGES IN OUR CONSUMPTION AND REVENUE AND SAYS THE REASONS FOR THE CHANGES TOOK PLACE.FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, OPERATING REVENUES AND DISCHARGE HERE EXCLUDING THE COST OF PURCHASE POWER INCREASED 8.9% FROM OUR 2021 ACTUAL.

THE NET OPERATING REVENUES WERE UP SLIGHTLY FROM 2021 BY ABOUT 2.1 MILLION. THIS INCREASE IN REVENUES NET OF COSTS IN THE ABSENCE OF INCREASED CONSUMPTION BECAUSE IT REMAINED FAIRLY LEVEL WAS THE RESULT OF THE RATE ADJUSTMENTS INCREMENTED DURING FISCAL YEAR 22.

OUR ELECTRIC PURCHASES OR RESALE OR $70.7 MILLION GREATER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR, 22/21. SIMPLY AS A RESULT OF INCREASING GAS COSTS FOR THE POWERBALL THAT WE PAID.

OUR OPERATING REVENUES WERE UP 5.6% AND CONSUMPTION WAS UP JUST 4.6.6%. WHILE CONSUMPTION REMAINED FLAT FOR MASTERS ACTUAL, THE INCREASE IN THE 2022 WATER OPERATING REVENUES RELATED TO THE RATE ADJUSTMENTS LIMITED LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER AND IN JULY.

FOR WASTEWATER OPERATING - - WHILE UNITS WERE BASICALLY FLAT. THE NUMBERS TYPICALLY - - WATER SYSTEM SALES, BOTH SYSTEMS CONSUMPTION REMAINED FLAT WITH REVENUES INCREASING AS A RESULT OF THOSE RATE ADJUSTMENTS.

HERE WE HAVE OUR NATURAL GAS OPERATING REVENUES, LEST THE CONSUMPTION - - LIKEWISE, GAS HAD AN INCREASE IN CONSUMPTION OF 1.4%. THE COST OF GAS PURCHASE FOR RESALE IN 2022 WAS 78.3%, OR $1.5 MILLION GREATER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR AS A RESULT OF THE GAS PRICES.

IN FISCAL YEAR 22, OPERATING IN MINUTES EXPENSES WERE 1.2% BELOW WHAT WAS PROJECTED FOR THE AMENDED BUDGET, BUT WERE 30.1% HIGHER THAN THE 2021 ACTUAL SPIRIT THIS WAS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE COST OF PURCHASE POWER FROM F MPA IN OUR AMENDED BUDGET. WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS ANTICIPATING THE COST OF THAT PURCHASE POWER TO BE HIRED AS WE CLOSE OUT 2022 BECAUSE OF THE TIMING WHEN IT WAS ALL TAKING PLACE. OUR ELECTRIC PURCHASE FOR RESALE WAS $4 MILLION BELOW THE AMENDED PROJECTIONS BUT WERE $71 MILLION HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

OUR GAS PURCHASES FOR RESALE WAS $1.5 MILLION GREATER IN 2022 AND AS WELL OUR EXPENSES INCREASED BY 15% TO 25% BEARIN , EXPENSES WERE UP ACROSS THE BOARD.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE TREND ON THE CALCULATION OF OURDEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO . THE CALCULATION IS RATIO OF A ROLLING 12 MONTH AVERAGE OF NET AVAILABLE INCOME OR DEBT SERVICE AND FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2022, OUR DEBT SERVICE RATIO WAS 2.47 TIMES COMPARED TO 3.54 TIMES SEPTEMBER 30 OF 2021. OUR BOND COVENANTS REQUIRE WE HAVE A 1.25 TIMES RATIO ON SEPTEMBER 30 AND WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE. THE COMPUTATION OF THE TENURE-TRACK FOR DEBT SERVICE CAN BE FOUND AT THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT ON PAGE 89 AND IT GIVES YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION OF THE TRENDS. ADDITIONALLY, OUR MASTER BOND

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RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION 2022 10 SEPTEMBER 30 OF EACH YEAR, - - MUST MAINTAIN 45 DAYS OF CASH ON HAND TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS RESOLUTION. THE CALCULATED DAYS OF CASH ON HAND AS OF SEPTEMBER 30 WAS 76 DAYS EXCLUDING NON-CASH OPERATING ITEMS. THE DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY BASED UPON THE CALCULATION OF REVENUES SUBJECT TO THE 6% DISTRIBUTION IS 6,073,421. THIS IS 3.6% OVER THE AMOUNT CALCULATED FOR 2021. THE CALCULATION CAN BE FOUND IN THE FINANCIAL REPORT ON PAGE 60 AS WELL AS THE STATISTICAL SECTION, YOU CAN SEE THE TREND IS LAID OUT HERE IN THIS GRAPH.

THIS GRAPH PROVIDES WITH HISTORY SO YOU CAN SEE THE TREND AS IN THE PREVIOUS LIFE OF EACH OF THE SYSTEMS REVENUE UP FROM .22 AND IT IS THOSE HIGHER REVENUES THAT HAVE ADDED THE 234,000 TWO THE CALCULATED DISTRIBUTIONS TO THIS YEAR.

WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING SEEKING APPROVAL THAT THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED REGARDING THE AUDITED FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022 RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 3R 30 WHICH WOULD APPROVE THE FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 23 ÃR 31 WHICH WOULD ACCEPT THE FINANCIAL REPORT AS AUDITED.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR: ANYTHING TO ADD?

>> NO MA'AM. THE BIGGEST THINGHERE IS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED THIS TO THE BOARD RECENTLY .

THEY HAVE APPROVED IT. THIS IS PRETTY TYPICAL AND ATTEND YOUR PRESENTATION WITH YOU TO THE BOARD.

IT IS REQUIRED THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE IT FOR OUR CHARTER.NCE YOU APPROVE IT, THE DISTRIBUTION GOES TO THE

CITY. >> ONCE WEAPPROVE IT, WE GET

THE CHECK . >>THAT'S RIGHT .

ANY QUESTIONS? >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.I WAS NOTICING IN THE INDIVIDUALIZED DEPARTMENTS, SOME DECREASES. IT WAS A SAVINGS BUT HAVE A FEELING IT WILL BE ON THE GOOD SIDE FOR THE EVALUATION OF STAFFING. IT LOOKS LIKEYOU HAVE SOME DECREASES LIKE SPECIFICALLY WATER DISTRIBUTION .

CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS ONE ALSO. IS IT BECAUSE ARE WE BEHIND IN PERSONNEL, DO WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS?

>> THIS PAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN DIFFICULT AND FILLING TECHNICAL POSITIONS. AS MENTIONED IN THE WATER DISTRIBUTION GROUP, THOSE POSITIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE CERTIFIED. THE MARKET IS VERY COMPETITIVE.

WE ARE COMPETING WITH THE MARKET RIGHT NOW AND THOSE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO FILL.

EVERYTHING FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE BECAUSE OF THE PAY SCALE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE REQUIRE CERTIFICATION BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FROM OUR STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORK ON A SYSTEM TO BE CERTIFIED.

>> SPECIFICALLYWHAT ARE WE DOING TO REFER THE ?

>> WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW WE ADDRESS RECRUITING SOME OF THESE POSITIONS. WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PAY SCALE. THE PAY SCALE HAS TO BE ADJUSTED TO BE COMPETITIVE AND THAT IS A DIFFERENT MARKET TODAY FOR SURE. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE PAY SCALE TO ADDRESS THE MARKET AND HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT MAYBE REACHING OUT TO A BROADER GROUP BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE TO. WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF STATE FROM INTO THE STATE AND PEOPLE DOWN SOUTH TO THIS AREA.

BUT, THERE PAY SCALES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR THIS AREA.

THE NUMBER ONE WAY TO TACKLE THAT IS TO ADDRESS THE PAY SCALE AND THAT IS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR VERY

CAREFULLY. >> NOTHING NEW, WE HAD THE SAME ISSUES HERE AT CITY HALL TRYING TO RECRUIT AND MAKE SURE WE ARE FULLY STAFFED WHENEVER WE CAN BE.HOW ABOUT LOCAL

CONTRACTORS? >> AS A MATTER OF FACT WITH THE SHORTAGE OF EMPLOYEES SIMILAR TO LEAN ON THE MORE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS AND MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS.

WE ARE LEANING ON THEM BUT THOSE PRICES HAVE ALSO BEEN GOING UP QUITE A BIT. IT JUST COST MORE TO DO

BUSINESS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> IT ISN'T THERE A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT THIS?

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I DON'T OFFICE AT THIS LEVEL, ABOUT THE CERTIFICATION FOR CERTAIN UTILITY WORKERS TO MAKE IT RECIPROCAL?

DOES THT AFFECT US? >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, I

CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. >> THERE IS A BILL AND THE CITY SUPPORTED SO THAT THE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE AND DID ON THE CERTIFICATION, AM I RIGHT COMMISSIONER GAINES? RECIPROCAL, YES. THAT MIGHT EASE THAT A LITTLE

BIT IF THAT PASSES. >> I DO KNOW THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO HAVE THE RECIPROCITY.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE WIRE AND WASTEWATER INDUSTRY.

>> JUST A FOLLOW-UP ON THE VACANCIES, WE HAVE A FLOURISHING COLLEGE RIGHT ON THE STREET HAVE WE REACH OUT TO ANYBODY THE COLLEGE TO SAY CAN WE START THIS CERTIFICATION CLASS? CAN WE DO SOMETHING? YOU GROOMED THESE LOCAL STUDENTS TO GO TO THE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE INTO WHAT WE NEED OR WHAT YOU GUYS NEED.

JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, AS FAR AS PAY SCALE OR WHATEVER, PAY SOME OF THEM ON THE FRONT AND TO GET THEM INTO THE PROGRAM TO SAY HEY, WE GET YOU THE CERTIFICATION, YOU COME AND WORK FOR US FOR SO MANY YEARS. AND YOU HAVE A CERTIFICATION - - TEACHING THE PROGRAMS TO HELP YOU OUT.

>> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COLLEGES.

SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND HORSES AND PROFESSIONALS ARE ADJUNCT INSTRUCTORS IN THE KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR SOME OF THOSE FOLKS. WE HAVE ALSO GONE TO A COUPLE OF THEIR CLASSROOMS, NOT JUST THE ENGINEERING GROUP AT THE TECHNICAL GROUP. IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGING BECAUSE MOST STUDENTS DON'T GOING TO WASTEWATER TREATMENT, IS KIND OF A SPECIALTY.

THERE IS A WIDE NET AND YOU MAKE IT EVEN SMALLER.

IT'S A POSITION YOU CAN RAISE A FAMILY WITH.

>> TO THE RESIDENTS LISTENING TO THIS MEETING TONIGHT THAT HAVE SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT ARE GRADUATING AND GOING TO ENGINEER, WATER AND WASTEWATER CERTIFICATION IS A

GREAT CAREER TO GET INTO.>> YOU HAVE THE GOING TO ENGINEERING, YOU CAN GET YOUR WASTEWATER CERTIFICATION.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, THIS IS A GREAT CAREER THAT YOU DON'T NEED A FOUR YEAR DEGREE FOR.

>> THAT IS EVEN BETTER. THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.

FOR THE SENIORS THAT ARE OUT THERE WHOSE PARENTS ARE MAKING THEM GO TO COLLEGE, IF YOU WANT TO GET OUT THERE AND GET A CAREER WHERE SOMETHING WILL BE AROUND, IT IS OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO THE WASTEWATER CERTIFICATION AREA.

DO NOT CALL ME, CALL THE DIRECTOR.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF POSITIONS OPEN, YOU CAN APPLY ONLINE AS

AN ONLINE APPLICATION. >> JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CAREERS RIGHT HERE IN FORT PIERCE WILLING TO SAY COME WORK WITH US AND GROW IN THE FUTURE WITH US.

SO ANYBODY LISTENING, YOU HEARD IT TONIGHT.

GO GET YOUR CERTIFICATION AND GET YOU A GOOD JOB.

>> EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT CERTIFIED AND CUMMINS A TECHNICIAN LEVEL I, WE WILL PAY FOR THE CERTIFICATION AND THE

EDUCATION. >> MAYOR: WHY WOULD YOU SAY NO,

RIGHT? >> IT IS IMPORTANT.IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET THOSE POSITIONS AND THESE POSITIONS ARE CRITICAL. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WASTEWATER SERVICES ACROSS THE NATION, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAVE AND THESE FOLKS NEED TO BE CERTIFIED. IT IS OUR PROFESSION TO LURE

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PEOPLE INTO BUT WANT TO GET INTO IT, YOU CAN BE CERTIFIED.

>> YOU CAN WRITE YOUR TICKET. >> YOU CAN BECOME A WATERPLANT SUPERINTENDENT OR A WASTE PLANT SUPERINTENDENT .

IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDGE WHERE YOU HAVE TO WANT TO DO I

. >> IF I CAN HELP YOU GET THE INFORMATION OUT BECAUSE OF A NICHE JOB OR CAREER THOSE COMMENTERS CHOP SECURITIES AND RETIREMENT JOB SECURITY.

FOR ANY OF OUR GRADUATING SENIORS IN APRIL GRADUATING NEXT MONTH, I GRADUATING SENIORS, GO LOOK AT IT IS NICHE

AND GET A JOB. >> YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE TRAINING AND WE WILL SEND YOU TO SOME TRAINING CERTIFICATION SO THE ACCOMMODATION OF BOTH. IT'S ON THE JOB TRAINING.

>> OKAY. >> IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TREND CHART AND INFORMATION PROVIDED AS FAR AS ELECTRIC GROWTH. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN COMBINED.

>> CONSUMPTIONFOR WATER, WE GET A .6% INCREASE IN CONSUMPTION .

FROM SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER 21 - - SLIGHT DECREASE.

THE NUMBER OF SERVICES BUILT INCREASED.

>> THE OTHER PART I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOUR PROJECTIONS ARE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ANALYZE AS FAR AS THE REMOVING WITH THE CITY THE ANNEXATIONS - - YOU HAPPEN TO DEVELOP.

I WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT YOUR

PREDICTIONS ARE. >> TYPICALLY THE AVERAGE UNDER 1% GROWTH FOR CONSUMPTION AND SERVICES BILLED.

THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE BEEN RIGHT THERE AS FAR AS CONSUMPTION FOR THE NUMBER OF SERVICES BILLED HAS BEEN HIGHER. A LITTLE MORE GROWTH THAN WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST AND IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE

DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE GOING ON . >>YEARS AGO IT WAS LESS THAN

0.2% , VERY LOW. >> THERE WAS ONE FOURTH% FOR A

LONG TIME. >> MAYOR: WE CAN DO THAT.

>> WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT INFILL AND DEVELOPMENT BUT ANYTHING WE

CAN DO TO HELP THAT. >> MAYOR:COMMISSIONER BRODERICK

AND COMMISSIONER GAINES . >> COMMISIONER: I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON THIS BUT THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO NUMBER, AND I. IS THERE A SIMPLE ANSWER OF THAT AS TO WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THAT?

>> LAST YOU HAD A LOT TO DO WITH OUR COST PER PURCHASE RESALE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER LAST YEAR, THAT WAS A BIG PART

OF IT. >> I ASSUME THERE WAS

ADDITIONAL DEBT. >> THAT IS THE BASIS OF THIS BEEN THAT WILL REALISTICALLY BE ADJUSTED IN THAT AREA PROBABLY IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS REGARDING YOUR DEBT SERVICE? I KNOW YOU ARE WELL ABOVE YOUR MINIMUM THRESHOLD BUT USE ANY CONCERNS ON THE HORIZONS?

>> I DON'T THINK SO, WE STRIVE TO MAINTAIN A SERVICE.

IT WILL JUMP UP AND STAY UP UNTIL THE DEBT GETS PAID DOWN SHALL BESOMETIME , BUT IT IS RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF CASH, WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR CASH ABOUT THOSE LIMITS AND

THAT IS THE RATIO. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAINTAIN OUR CASH ABOUT WHAT WE ARE.

>> ALWAYS LOOK THE DECISION. [LAUGHTER]

>> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> COMMISIONER: A REAL QUICK FOLLOW-UP, WE ARE TRYING TO GROW AND WITH COMMISSIONER

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JOHNSON SAID. I'M GOING BACK TO THESE POSITIONS, I'M SITTING ACCOUNTING WHEN I WAS THINKING, WE AT LEAST EIGHT HIGH SCHOOLS AND SERVICE ACADEMIES? I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE COUNTING, NOT EVEN INCLUDING INSURANCE SCHOOLS, WANT TO GO TO MARTIN COUNTY, YOU HAVE 11 OR 12 HIGH SCHOOLS, HER REGARD TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN HIS SOME OF THOSE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, ESPECIALLY THOSE SENIORS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF CERTIFICATION TO COME IN FOR TRAINING? AND EXPLAIN WHAT THIS NICHE WAS AND GRAB SOME OF THOSE KIDS? JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF SENIORS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY ABOUT TO GRADUATE NEXT MONTH THAT ARE NOT LEAVING ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND ARE NOT GOING TO INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE.

THEY WILL START LOOKING FOR THESE PART-TIME JOBS ANDTRYING TO MAKE IT .TO GO OUT AND REACH SOME OF THESE KIDS, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE COULD THINK IN THIS NICHE AND ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE EXPLAINS IT TO SHOW THEM THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A JOB YOU WILL HAVE FOR A YEAR BUT IF YOU PUT IN THE EFFORTS, YOU CAN HAVE THIS JOB FOR 30 YEARS WITH THE RETIREMENT.

SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE APPROVED THAT WE WILL NEED THE SERVICES OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE KIDS RIGHT HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY THAT PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS NICHE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO RECRUIT AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THEY ARE RIGHT HERE .

YOU CAN HANDPICK AND SAY LET ME TRAIN YOU, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. GETTING TO THE SCHOOLS AND THAT

DOCTOR PRINCE IS LISTENING. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO WE HAVE IN THE WATER DISTRIBUTION GROUP, I THINK WE HAVE EITHER FIVE OR SIX THAT ARE VACANT.

IT IS NOT LIKE A LARGE NUMBER, BUT IT IS STILL A RESPECTABLE NUMBER THAT WE NEED TO FILL. WE HAVE NOT REALLY TARGETED BY SCHOOLS QUITE YET, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKNG AT DOING. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS REACHING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL GROUP.

ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WE HAVE HAD IS GIVEN LITTLE TRAINING GROUND. THEY COME HERE, GET CERTIFIED AND THEN THEY LEAVE TO NEIGHBORING CITIES BECAUSE OF THE PAY SCALE BEING SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVING TO DEAL WITH.

TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC CORE OF THE ISSUE, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT RECRUITMENT AND THE PAY SCALE.

TO RECRUIT THEM CANNOT KEEP THEM AND MAINTAIN THEM.

>> THAT IS FINE.I'M JUST USING MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE.

I WOULD TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI LAW SCHOOL AND IT WAS A PROGRAM STUDENT GAINES, IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY IN FLORIDA FOR FOUR YEARS ONTO THE THREE YEARS OF LAW SCHOOL, HE WILL GIVE YOU A SIPHON WHILE IN LAW SCHOOL A FEW TIMES AGREEMENT TO STAY IN LORD I PRACTICE LAW IN FLORIDA. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE, THAT IS A NO-BRAINER. HIS IDEAS WERE YOU CAN TRAIN THESE, BUT WE THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE RETIREMENT THAT YOU KNOW ARE COMING, WE CAN ALWAYS KEEP THE PIPELINE, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

IF THIS IS SUCH A SELECTED NICHE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE EIGHT HIGH SCHOOLS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR YOU TO GO PUT YOUR EYES ON SOME OF THESE KIDS AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WILL BE THE PERFECT PERSON AND PERFECT FIT FOR THIS NICHE AND GO FROM THERE, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE GOING AND WE WILL NEED THESE SERVICES IN THE FUTURE.

>> I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATIO .

>> MAYOR: I NEED A SEPARATE MOTION FOR R 30 AND R 31.

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WE CAN DO R 30 WITHOUT YOU READING IT?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 23 ÃR 30.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR: CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> CLERK:

[c. Resolution 23-R31 accepting the Fort Pierce Utilities Authority Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for FY2022 and annual distribution.]

31, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA ACCEPTING THE FY 2022 ANNUAL CONFERENCE A FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2021 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022 AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DAT

. >> MAYOR: IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR: CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >> CLERK:

[d. Resolution 23-R32 Opposing House Bill 1331 and Senate Bill 1380 relating to Municipal Utilities]

>> MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CLERK: NEXT WE HAVE 23 ÃR 32 RESOLUTION OPPOSING HOUSE BILL 1331 AND SENATE BILL 1380 RELATING TO MUNICIPAL UTILITIES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MAYOR: THIS IS MINE, SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR LOBBYING EFFORTS IN TALLAHASSEE. THESE BILLS WOULD PUT - - UNDER THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION WHICH WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST THINGS INCLUDING RATES AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN WHETHER THE RATES GO UP OR DOW .

IT HAS SOME OTHER PROVISIONS AND IT FOR HOME RULES.

IF I FORGET A MOTION TO APPROV , THEY COULD USE IT UP IN

TALLAHASSEE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR: MOTION AND THE

SECOND, CALL THE ROLEPLEASE . >> CLERK:

[e. Approval of the FY 2023 Proposed Budget/Spending plan for the Animal Adoption Center.]

>> MAYOR: >> CLERK: NEXT WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE - - ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER.

>> MR. MIMS? >> MATTER MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION BEGAN WITH THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY RESPONSE WE WILL ALSO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR THE FORT PIERCE ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER.

AS YOU KNOW, PEGGY AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN A SPECTACULAR JOB WITH THE TRANSITION. WE HAVE GOTTEN HAVING A COMMUNITY PARTNER TAKING IT INCOMPLETELY BY OURSELVES.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO PEGGY AT THIS TIME AND SHE WILL TELL YOU HOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING IS

ENTERPRISE FUND. >> GOOD EVENING MATTER MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON DEVELOPIN , 20 ENTERPRISE FUND. WE HAVE TO HAVE A FULL BUDGET FOR INCOME AND EXPENSES THERE IS A BUDGET TRANSFER OVER FROM GENERAL FUND PLUS SEVERAL OF THE LINE ITEMS I HAD IN MY ORIGINAL BUDGET HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER.

SOME OF THE ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES THAT ARE NOW PRETTY TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE SHELTER , ALL THOSE INCOME AND EXPENSES WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE BUDGET.

THINGS LIKE ANIMAL REGISTRATIONS, ALL THAT IS BEING TRANSFERRED OVER. THAT'S A PERMANENT TRANSFER AS WELL AS THE ORIGINAL 300,000 THAT WE HAD FOR THE SHELTER.

THOSE ARE PERMANENT TRANSFERS. WE ARE ALSO UTILIZING SOME OF THE CSI FUNDING SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET.

IT IS MY HOPES THAT IT IS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION AND THE CLINIC WE JUST RECEIVED FUNDING FOR, THE INCOME FROM THAT WILL START TO REPLACE THE CSI FUNDING.

THERE WILL HOPEFULLY BE A LONGER-TERMSOLUTION FOR THAT .

ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, WE DID INCLUDE ALL OF THE STAFFING TO BRING THEM ON BOARD. VETERINARY SERVICES, JUST ON GENERAL OPERATIONS HAVE ALL BEEN INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

>> DO YOU HAVE MORE? >> NO.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> - - ALL ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND BASED ON THE PROJECTIONS AND THE REVENUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE, IT IS ENOUGH TO COVER IT AND BALANCE TO COVER HER EXPENDITURES HE WILL SEE THIS FIRST YEAR GOES AND A REAL

PRIOR BUDGET TO FALL APART. >> I DO HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS TO ADD. THE REVENUE BE PUT IN PLACE I THINK IS PRETTY ACCURATE. I DON'T THINK IS OUT OF THE REALM OF THE INCOME SOURCES THAT WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE THE ADOPTION LINE ITEM IS AROUND 50,000.

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LAST MONTH WE DID $5000 WORTH OF ADOPTIONS.

WE ARE ON TRACK TO DO ALL OF THAT WITH OUR FOOD LINE ITEM, WE HAVE MANAGED TO GET A GRANT FROM HILLS PET TO PROVIDE OUR FOOD SERVICES AT A GREATLY REDUCED COST WHICH WILL MATCH THE INCOME THAT WE LISTED THERE OR THE EXPENSES WE LISTED THERE. IT IS A FAIRLY REASONABLE

BUDGET TO BE PUT IN PLACE. >> JUST A QUICK COMMENT, I NOTICED HE WILL USE SOME OF THE ARPA FUNDS WHICH IS GOOD.

THIS IS A SITUATION THAT WARRANTS IT TO THE RESTRICTIVE REVENUE FUND PART OF EARLY TODAY.

YOUR OTHER DISSIPATION OR HOPE TO GET COMMUNITY PARTNERS, RIGHT? IS THAT ACCURATE.

>> THAT IS ACCURATE. >> THAT'S ALWAYS TALK ABOUT.

THANK YOU. WE ARE STARTING WITH 14 STAFF, AND ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS CAME FROM YOUR BUDGET AND WE ADDED

SOME, RIGHT? >> FOR ANOTHER STAFF THROUGH TEMPORARY AGENCY WILL BE CAN BRING THEM ON BOARD AS CITY

STAFF. >> YOU TOOK IN THE RETIREMENT

HEALTH INSURANCE ETC. >> THOSE NUMBERS WERE NOT BUILT ON A MIDYEAR PROTECTION OR PROPOSAL, IT'S A WHOLE ANNUAL YOUR PROPOSAL WITH THE PERSONNEL LINE ITEMS POLITICALLY PICTURE TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL YEARS ARE.

>> THIS WILL BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND?

>> YES. >> MAYOR: OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE IT PERHAPS NOT SELF-SUSTAINING BUT ALSO IF WE BRING IN A VETERINARIAN OR SOME ANCILLARY SERVICES, IT WILL BE GOING A LONG WAY TOWARD SUSTAINING IT, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> WE HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT FORMULA TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES. THIS IS YET ANOTHER ITERATION OF THAT AND I HOPE IT IS THE LAST ONE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ONE QUICK QUESTION.

IN CONVERSATION YOU AND I HAD WERE LOOKING AT DOING SOME RENOVATION AND UPGRADES TO THE FACILITY.

WHERE DOES THAT STAND? IS IT BUDGETED FOR SO YOU CAN GET YOURSURGICAL CENTER UP AND OPERATIONAL ?

>> THAT IS THE FUNDING THING PROVIDED BY THE RESCUE FUNDS.

SOME OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN US EXPENSE WITH EVERYTHING WE DID TO START UP THE PROGRAM.

SOME OF THOSE FUNDS - - THEN WILL MOVE FORWARD.

WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AT FULL SPEED.

WE HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THE COMPANY THAT CAN HELP US PUT TOGETHER THE BIG PAPERWORK SO WE CAN HAVE THE DESIGN DONE AND SET UP THE BID FOR THE CLINIC AND WE

ARE MOVING AHEAD. >> ARE YOU ABLE TO USE

VOLUNTEERS YET? >> WE WOULD LOVE TO USE VOLUNTEERS. I MET WITH ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS THE OTHER DAY. SHE WAS HOPING MORE PEOPLE WILL START STEPPING FORWARD. SHE IS LOOKING FOR A WALKING BODY WHERE THEY CAN COME, TAKE THE DOG AND GO FOR A WALK.

NOT NECESSARILY AT THE SHELTER BUT ONE OF THE DOG PARK OR DOWNTOWN OR EVEN AROUND THAT WILL LAKE THAT GOES DOWN THERE.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR WALKING BUDDIES TO TAKE HER ANIMALS FOR SOME WALKS AND GET THEM OUT OF THE SHELTER FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.UT ANY VOLUNTEERS, WE WILL TAKE ANYTHING.

>> HOW ABOUT CONTRIBUTIONS? CAN THEY BE MADE AT THIS TIME?

>> THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN BE MADE. >> AND THEY ARE TAX-DEDUCTIBLE

CONTRIBUTIONS. >> THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW.

ADOPTION SERVICES ARE MOVING FORWARD?>> YES, MA'AM. THE STAFF THAT IS THERE HAS REALLY WORKED HARD ON ESTABLISHING HIS PARTNERSHIPS. WE HAD SEVERAL TRANSPORTS OUT, THE ADOPTIONS ARE GOING WELL. WE ARE TRYING TO GET SOME

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VOLUNTEERS IN. I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD START ON THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. THINGS ARE REALLY MOVING

FORWARD IN THE POSITIVE WAY. >> I THINK AT SOME TIME, WE AS INDIVIDUALS SHOULD, BUT TOUR AT THE RIGHT TIME.

>> ANYTIME, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW.COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS NOT HERE TONIGHT HAS ALREADY GONE FOR HIS TOUR, MR. BRODERICK IS GOING ON WEDNESDAY.PLEASE, LET ME KNOW. ANY TIME, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOU ON A TOUR OF THE FACILITY.

>> MAYOR: OKAY, ARE WE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THIS BUDGET TONIGHT? ANY MORE QUESTIONS?ANYBODY

WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR: CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> CLERK:

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

PUBLIC. >> MAYOR: ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND MS. COX WILL GIVE YOU A THREE SECOND MORNIN .

>> SPEAKER: (STATES NAME AND ADDRESS).

WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS DOWN THERE FOR WELL OVER 20 YEARS.

THE TOPIC THAT I'M BRINGING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS JENNY PARK.

THAT IS SOMETHING ME TO GET CLEANED UP AND ADDRESS SOONER THAN LATER. I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT BY POSSIBLY ADDING PARKING METERS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT. THE TOURIST AREA TO STOP IMC AND SO FORTH THE NIGHT CREW THE COMES IN THAT AREA DESTROYS IT, FROM FILTH, TO MUSIC MUCH DRINKING, DRUGS TO THE POINT WHERE IT AFFECTS EVERYONE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.

WE ARE ACTUALLY CLOSING OUR BUSINESS IS DOWN ROUGHLY AROUND 10:00 AT NIGHT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 2:00 A.M.. RESTAURANTS, BARS AND SO FORTH.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT THAT OPTION, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT INTO EFFECT.

IT CAN BE OUR METER FOR THE LOCALS, TOURIST RATES, WHATEVER YOU CAN BRING REVENUE TO THE CITY AND ALSO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE TO ENJOY. AT NIGHT AND AROUND 10:00 OR 11:00, YOU CAN EVEN HAVE THE DOORS OPEN.

THE CUSTOMERS WILL NOT BE COMFORTABLE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WHATSOEVER. SO, WE BROUGHT IT TO YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE AND I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP BRINGING IT. WE LOVE IT THERE, WE TAKE CARE OF THAT, WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE CREW THAT TAKES CARE OFOUR PROPERTIES DAY AND NIGHT. EVEN OUR RESIDENT AT THE HOTEL THERE , THEY ARE AFFECTED BY ITHEY CAN'T ENJOY THEIR ENVIRONMENT .PEOPLE UP TO WALK THE BEACH AND WALK IN THE PARK. THE HURRICANE HIT, WE RENOVATED IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. YOU HAVE TO PICK IT UP EVERY DAY. THE CITY GOES THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY AND CLEAN THE TRASH, THE GARBAGE IS FILLED IS ON THE STREETS. PEOPLE EITHER MASS EVERYWHERE, IT IS HORRIBLE. DO I WANT TO CALL THE POLICE? OBVIOUSLY, BUT DO I? NO.

WE DEAL WITH IT AND WE LIVE IN IT.

I WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. HOPEFULLY THE POLICE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE ENFORCEMENT THERE. WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE FOR FORT PIERCE, WE ARE GROWING.

I JUST DON'T WANT US TO FAIL. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.