[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND HAVE THREE

MINUTES. THREE SECOND MORNING. >> ONE OF THE PROPERTIES YOU ARE GOING TO CONSIDER ACCEPTING A BID FOR. 426 DOUGLAS COURT. FORT PIERCE PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. AS A CITY EMPLOYEE. ACQUIRED FOR 20 2002 FOR $100 LIT TO THE FPR A4 $14,000. IN DECEMBER 27, 2006.

I SEE TODAY, I COULD NOT DETERMINE WHETHER BOTH PARTIALS ARE GONNA BE 10,000, OR EACH OF THEM 10,000. I THINK IT'S 5000 A PIECE. 5000 A PIECE. SO, 2006 TO 2023. WHAT IS THAT? 19 YEARS. HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR 19 YEARS. THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 19 YEARS. HAS DONE NOTHING WITH IT.

THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT $14,000 IN HIS POCKET. TO DATE JUERGEN ACCEPT $5000 FOR IT.

CONTEMPLATING IT.

THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE CRIME. NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE HAVE NOT MUCH FAITH IN OUR CITY. WHAT WENT ON NOT LONG AGO. ONE OF OUR CITY COMMISSIONERS. DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF. A SEPTIC TANK. AND NOW THIS. NOT WHATSOEVER. NOT EVEN BRAVE ENOUGH TO COME TONIGHT. A PARTNER IN THIS DEAL? THAT WILL BUY IT BACK, HE AND HIS MOM? I ALWAYS SAY WE CAN DO BETTER. CANNOT SIT UP THERE AND ACT LIKE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU DID.

CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, PAID $14,000 FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SAT OVER THERE THAT YOU NEVER USE. SOME OF US HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS STUFF SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. INCLUDING BACK WHEN HE WAS HERE. HOW ARE WE GONNA GET BETTER OF A CITY? YOU DON'T REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR. AND YOU ALL CONTINUE TO DO IT.

SOME PEOPLE LAUGHED ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK WITH THE TAXPAYERS MONEY. FORT PIERCE IS NOT

PRETTY ALL THE TIME. >>

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD?

ANYONE ELSE? >> I SEE NONE WE WILL MOVE ON. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IN MOTION FOR THIS WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK TO ABOUT EITHER ONE OF THESE ITEMS?

>> APPROVE THE CONSENT. >> SECOND? >> SECOND. >> A PMOTION ON THE SECOND CALL THE

ROLE. >> JOHNSON, MR. JAY JOHNSON. >> YES-MAN. >>

[a. Approval to award RFP No. 2023-016 for Sale of Surplus Property at 424 Douglas Court and 426 Douglas Court, identified by Parcel ID: 2409-501-0199-000-0 and 2409-501-0200-000-1, to the highest ranked responder, Eastern Capital Investments, LLC.]

COMMISSIONER BOB RICK. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER GAMES,

CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON, >> YES. >> BUSINESS APPROVAL TO AWARD RFP NUMBER 2023 Ã016 RETAIL SURPLUS PROPERTY FOR TWO DOUGLAS COURT 426 DOUGLAS COURT.

TO THE HIGHEST RANK RESPONDER EASTERN CAPITAL INVESTMENT LLC.

>> MR. JOHNSON ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? >> I DO NOT. ACTING FPR A DIRECTOR. TAKING

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THE LEAD ON. >> MS. HELMS?

>> MEMBERS OF THE FPR A BOARD. MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE A REDEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST.

SPEARHEADING OUR SURPLUS PROPERTY. THIS COULD HAVE GONE UNDER THE CONSENTED AGENDA WITHOUT THIS WAS THE FIRST ROUND OF THE NEW PROCESS. WE HAVE NEW EVALUATION CRITERIA WE ASK FOR NEW INFORMATION. TO REALLY HELP STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AND MAKE IT BETTER.

HANDED OVER TO MARION THAT COULD GIVE ME AN

OVERVIEW. >> MS. GARCIA, WELCOME. >> GREAT TO BE HERE. >> EXCITING TO PRESENT THE FIRST RFP FOR SURPLUS PROPERTIES. APRIL 4, 2020 4M4 26 DOUGLAS COURT.

THESE ARE TWO PARCELS LOCATED ALONG MORSE CREEK PARK, HISTORIC LINKIN PARK DISTRICT.

OUR EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE CHANGED FOR THESE SURPLUS PROPERTIES GOING FORWARD.

VERSE ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ASSIGNED 20 POINTS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR WE ASK FOR PROPOSALS TO PROVIDE PRELIMINARY BUILDING PLANS SUCH AS FLOOR PLANS, ELEVATIONS, AND LANDSCAPING PLANS. WE ASSIGNED 20 POINTS TO THE TIMELINE ONE OR TWO PROPOSALS TO PROVIDE A PROJECT SCHEDULE TO ENSURE THEY WERE GOING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT ON TIME, ALSO WITHIN BUDGET.

WE AS PROPOSALS TO CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES ASSIGNED 10 POINTS TO THAT. WE ASK FOR ONE THIRD PARTY ESTIMATES FROM THIRD-PARTY PROFESSIONALS OR CONTRACTORS. FOR APPROVAL FINANCIAL ABILITY WE AS PROPOSALS TO SUBMIT EITHER BANK STATEMENTS, LETTERS OF CREDIT TO ENSURE THEY HAD ENOUGH FUNDS TO PURCHASE THESE VACANT LAND. ALSO TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS THAT THEY PROPOSED. IF A PROPERTY UTILIZATION ASSIGNED 20 POINTS.

WE WANT TO KNOW IF THERE WAS GONNA BE OCCUPIED, DEVELOPED FOR RESALE. HE WANTED TO PURCHASE IT, OR BE DEVELOPED FOR AS A RENTAL PROPERTY. THEN THE LAST, SUMMARY OF DEVELOPMENT 15 POINT ASSIGNED TO THAT. IT WAS A DEVELOPER WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THEIR EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. OR IF IT WAS A PROPERTY OWNER WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A LETTER EXPLAINING WHY THEY WANTED TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. FOR THIS RFP SEVEN RESPONDENTS. FOR EVALUATORS, THE MAX POINTS WAS 400 POINTS.

EASTERN CAPITAL INVESTMENTS LLC THE HIGHEST RANK RESPONDER. THEY SCORED 358 POINT OUT OF THE 400. EASTERN CAPITAL INVESTMENTS INTENDS TO PROPOSE TO PAY $10,000 FOR BOTH LOTS. TEND TO BUILD A THREE BEDROOM TWO BATH HOME ON EACH LOT. CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES $300,000. THEY INTEND CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 10 MONTHS. OF THE APPROVALS OF THE APPEARING.

I RECOMMENDATION IS TO ORDER THE RFP FOR 424 AND 426 DOUGLAS COURT TO THE HIGHEST RANK RESPONDED WITH EASTERN CAPITAL INVESTMENTS LLC. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT

YOU MAY HAVE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO, FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY PROMISED TO DO, WILL THERE BE BUILT-IN THINGS IN ORDER TO

MAKE SURE THEY HAPPEN? >> CORRECT, YES. >> LIKE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, AND THE FPR A THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO THIS? IF YOU DON'T DO THIS BY A CERTAIN

TIME. SOME KIND OF PROTECTION. >> IS AN 18 MONTH REVERTER IF THEY DO NOT COMPLETE THE

CONSTRUCTION OR COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S GO AHEAD. >> ALL START RIGHT THERE THAT'S THE PART I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THURSDAY REVERTER ON THIS FOR THOSE LISTENING. 18 MONTHS TO START CONSTRUCTION. PAST PERMITTING, THEY HAVE FROM THE DATE WHICH MAY BE TODAY OR WHATEVER. THEY

HAVE FROM THAT POINT TO GET PERMITTING DONE. >> CORRECT. >> 18 MONTHS LATER WE SHOULD

SEE CONSTRUCTION OF FOUNDATION BEING POURED? >> CORRECT. >> IF NOT IT WILL GO BACK. >>

CORRECT. >> WILL COORDINATE A CLOSING EITHER WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL OR THEIR CITY ATTORNEY AND FROM

THAT TABLE HAVE 18 MONTHS TO POUR THE FOUNDATION. >> WE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE, I THINK THE NEW REVISED WHAT IS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SOME OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO SEE IN HERE. AS A LOOK AT THE SCORES, I KIND OF LOOK AT A RANGE OF

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SCORES. THERE WERE BIG DISPARITIES AND SMALLER HERE. I TRIED TO LOOK BETWEEN THE TWO THAT I FELT WERE WITHIN THIS SCOPE PRETTY CLOSE. I LOOKED AT THIS, I SAW ABOUT A 24 POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TELCO AND EASTERN CAPITAL. WE ASKED FOR EVALUATORS TO LOOK AT THIS WITHIN A 25 POINT MARGIN BETWEEN THE TWO COMPANIES. I FURTHER INVESTIGATE A LOOK INTO BOTH OF THEM RESPECTIVE PLANS. ONE OF WHICH THIS PERSON INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY BEFORE, BUILT SOME BEAUTIFUL DUPLEXES THAT SEEM TO BE DOING QUITE WELL.

I LOOK AT THAT INTIMATE 25 POINT IS WITHIN MY SCOPE OF MARGIN THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE BOTH OF THEM AT THIS POINT COME TO LOOK AT THIS, TO HAVE THE EVALUATION FOR US TO LOOK AT IT ONE LAST TIME. I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. EVEN TITLE MARGINS. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS A LOOK AT BOTH OF THESE PROPOSALS ARE BOTH GREAT. SEEM TO BE WELL-FINANCED. MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT TO ME AS A VOTING PERSON LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES HERE. TO BE TOTALLY FAIR. BOTH OF THEM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER DOING THIS LEGWORK. THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS EVALUATION. AS I FURTHER READ INTO WHAT BOTH OF THESE COMPANIES HAVE DONE RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES THAT KIND OF JUMPS OUT AT ME. THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I AM AT WITH THIS PROCESS.

>> A COUPLE COMMENTS. FIRST THE UTILIZATION TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING I THINK EXTREMELY WORTHWHILE UNDERTAKING. FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF INCREASING HOUSING STOCK, AND PROVIDING A TYPE OF PRODUCT TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS PARTICULAR OFFERING I BELIEVE ONE RENTAL IN ONE FOR SALE. I APPLAUD THE INITIATIVE TO INCREASE HOUSING STOCK THROUGH THIS TYPE OF I WILL NOT GET INTO THE LAUNDRY LIST OF REASONS WHY. THE LIST IS EXTENSIVE. I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE REVERTER ISSUE. MY CONCERN THERE IS THAT I GUESS TECHNICALLY THEY HAVE 18 MONTHS IN WHICH TO SECURE A PERMIT.

THAT'S A LOT OF TIME.

MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SEE. DOES NOT GUARANTEE A FINISHED PRODUCT. THAT JUST ACKNOWLEDGES THE FACT THEY SECURED PERMIT AND THEY TURNED OVER.

NOW TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS EITHER. SURPRISING TO SAY PERMIT CAN BE EXTENDED OUT FOR YEARS, WITHOUT COMPLETION OF A PROJECT. WHAT IS CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO TYING THE REVERSION PROVISION OF THIS TO ACO, VERSUS A PERMIT. IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED KIND OF GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF A WHAT

THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT WAS, OR THAT NOT A CONSIDERATION? >> THAT WAS NOT A CONSIDERATION. IF I MAY MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OUT OF THE WORKER PREVIOUSLY FOR THE LAST ROUND OF BIDS, TWO YEARS AGO NOW? THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, IT SEEMED LIKE THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY OF IDENTIFYING WHEN THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO START. THEN WE COULD KIND OF BE DONE WITH IT THAT WAS IN A DEED RESTRICTION THEY STARTED. WITHOUT THAT WAS ENOUGH SKIN IN THE GAME WITH A SECURE THE PERMIT, GOT THE PERMITS APPROVED. THEY POURED THE FOUNDATION FOR ANOTHER GET TO GO FORWARD AND BUILD THAT HOUSE. THAT IS COMPLETELY UP TO YOU ALL THE TIMING OF THAT 18 MONTHS WAS ALSO BASED ON THE LAST ROUND OF SURPLUS PROPERTIES WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL. THAT COULD BE AMENDED TOTALLY AT THE PLEASURE OF THE FPR A BOARD. IF IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO YOU ALL TO DO IT AT THE CO WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. THAT WAS KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. LIKE OKAY, DAVE MET THE INITIAL. THEY GOT THE BUILDING PERMITS THAT WAS A LENGTHY PROCESS THEY POURED THE

FOUNDATION. THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS HOUSE. >> I GUESS MAKE ME A BELIEVER IS HOW I LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. INVOLVING CONSTRUCTION. I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD BE DEALT WITH MOVING FORWARD. AS FAR AS THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME IS CONCERNED NOT ADVERSE TO THE SCORING PROCEDURE HERE. MY SUGGESTION IS THAT HOW MUCH DO THEY REALLY

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HAVE INTO THIS? A $10,000 ACQUISITION COST PROBABLY HAVE SEVEN OR $8000 IN ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. AND PERMITTING COSTS. IF THERE INTO THIS THING BEFORE THEY STICK THE SHOVEL IN THE GROUND FOR MORE THAN $25,000 I WOULD BE SHOCKED. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO LIQUIDATE THIS WITH MOTIVATION TO HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE FOR HOUSING AVAILABILITY. THE PLANS ARE GREAT. I WANT TO BE A BELIEVER. 18 MONTHS TO SECURE THE PERMIT IN TERMS JUST SEEMS LIKE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE ON IT. I MAY BE OFF BASE HERE KNOWING THE PROCESS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH NOT BUILDING A MALL. THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE. THESE ARE PLANS THAT COME. PRETTY MUCH. THAT'S JUST MY CONCERNS. I WOULD PREFER TO SEEK SOME TYPE OF TRIGGER WITH A LITTLE MORE TEETH IN IT. IF THEY FAIL TO EXECUTE AND WILLING TO WALK AWAY FROM THEIR $20-$25,000 INVESTMENT, WHICH IS NOT A TON OF MONEY IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, THE CITY HAS IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO TAKE THESE PROPERTIES BACK, VERSUS PUTTING IN A FOUNDATION AND SAYING OKAY, WE WILL SEE YOU IN SIX MONTHS AT THE BE COMPLETELY WRONG. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WERE SELLING THE PROPERTIES AT VERY LOW PRICE COMPARATIVELY TO THEORY OF MARKET VALUE MIGHT BE. IF THEY CAN EXECUTE ON THAT, I AM THE WORLD. IF THEY ARE NOT, LOOKING TO SIT ON A POTENTIALLY FLIP IT 15 MONTHS FROM NOW AS A PROFIT INCENTIVE I'M NOT A HAPPY CAMPER ABOUT THAT.

LOOKING TO SEE IF WE COULD TIGHTEN UP THAT SCENARIO, COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON MAY HAVE BETTER INPUT ON THAT. DISCUSSED ON THE COURT SCENARIO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS DO NOT WANT TO GIVE SEE SOMEBODY GIVE A BARGAIN. IN THE CITY IS STILL SITTING ON A ISSUE POTENTIALLY FOR THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT

IT. >> I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.

WITH THE SURPLUS PROPERTIES WHEN THIS DECISION ARE WE NOT SELLING THEM FOR MARKET VALUE IF OR NOT SELLING THEM FOR MARKET VALUE. WHY NOT? JUST BECAUSE WE NEED HOUSING. UNDER TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. I SHARED THE SAME AS COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

IF I COULD GET A PROPERTY IN THE MEANS COURT AREA, OR ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW IN FORT PIERCE CLOSER TO US ONE SEVENTH STREET, EIGHTH STREET, ALL THE AREA OVER THERE. WE ARE GIVING AWAY PROPERTY FROM THAT MARKET VALUE. OTHER THAN PROVIDING HOUSING THAT IS THE KEY PROVIDING HOUSING. WHAT IS THE CITY GETTING BACK? UNLIKE COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. IF ON THE DEVELOPER, WHICH I AM NOT. NEXT TO GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY UNDER MARKET VALUE. YOU GIVE ME 18 MONTHS AND I I DO KNOW THE PROCESS OF THE BUILDING PROCESS. I COULD CHANGE THIS, CHANGE THAT, CHANGE THIS, CHANGE THAT. IN THOSE 18 MONTHS WHEN IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ON NOTICE THAT SOMETHING IS REALLY BEING BUILT? BECAUSE IF I WAIT 12 MONTHS AND YOU TELL THEM I GOT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS BEFORE YOU SEND A LETTER. I'M GONNA GO FLIP IT. I'M GONNA JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU I'M GOING TO FLIP IT. NOT ONLY HAVE THE CITY LOST MONEY THE FIRST TIME, NOW LET SOMEBODY COME IN AND MAKE SOME MONEY ON MONEY THAT WE LOST. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THE DETAILS. I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME. IF WE ARE NOT SELLING THESE PROPERTIES FOR MARKET VALUE, I NEED TO KNOW WHY. IF THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING THIS DEVELOPER THE BENEFIT TO REVITALIZE THIS AREA. I COULD LIVE WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT. I CAN'T. ANY PERSON OR LIKE COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SAID, 18 MONTHS? WE FORT PIERCE RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE HOT BIDS FOR PEOPLE DRIVING FROM EVERYWHERE. TO COME TRY TO FIND EVERY LITTLE PIECE OF LAW BETWEEN US ONE AND PROBABLY NINTH STREET. MOST OF THE

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STUFF ON SEVENTH STREET IT'S BEEN BOUGHT UP. I THINK STOP RIGHT NOW TONIGHT STREET.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMISSION. NOT THIS POOR BUT THE CITY COMMISSIONER . CITY OF COMMISSION PUT IN AND ALL THAT MONEY ON THE AVENUE DECOR, THE NUCOR DOOR IN ALL OF THAT. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING THIS IN MAKING MONEY OFF OF US. WE ALREADY TAKEN THE LOSS IF THAT IS TRUE.

ALREADY TAKING A LOSS AT THE INITIAL. I NEED SOME CLARITY ON IF OR NOT SELLING IT FOR MARKET VALUE. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT THAT WE ARE GETTING, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS ARE GETTING FOR WHATEVER MONEY? IF IT'S $2000, $4000, IF IT'S $500. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YEAH WE DID THAT. THIS IS WHY BUT HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW IT. THAT IS MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID. MY COLLEAGUE HERE THAT'S THE ENGINEER AND MY COLLEAGUE DOWN THERE THAT BUILDS THE STUFF THAT IS NOT MY FORTE. I UNDERSTAND I'VE SEEN ENOUGH SHOWS ON TV.

HOW THEY FLIP HOUSES AND PROPERTIES, AND IN 60 DAYS. IT MAKES YOU WONDER SOMETIMES.

MAYBE I'M DOING THE WRONG THING. IT LOOKS NICE. FLIPPING PROPERTIES JUST SO QUICK. VACANT LAND FROM SOMETHING MY GRANDFATHER TOLD ME THE MOST VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN HAVE. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION. SIMPLIFY THIS, WAS SAFEGUARD DO WE HAVE THAT THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, THREE MONTHS FROM NOW THAT WE KNOW THIS

PROJECT IS GOING FORWARD? THAT IS THE QUESTION I START WITH. >> OKAY. MADAM CHAIR. YES SIR COMMISSIONER.

LET'S START WITH THE BEGINNING OF WHY WE ARE SELLING THESE PROPERTIES FOR LESS THAN MARKET RATE IN SOME CASES. SO, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS TO SPUR REVITALIZATION IN THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT.

ONE-TIME INFUSION OF A PURCHASE PRICE OF A LOT IS NOT REALLY WHAT THE FPR IS AFTER. WE ARE AFTER THAT REDEVELOPMENT, SINGLE SELLING HOME THAT TRIPLEX WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE SAFEGUARD IN PLACE WITH A DEED RESTRICTION. WE HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE DAY THAT SAID YOUR DESTRUCTION IN THAT TIMEFRAME. I BELIEVE 18 MONTHS IS A LONG TIME. I THINK THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE LOOKED AT. IN ORDER TO TIGHTEN THAT UP TO REALLY GET WHAT WE'RE AFTER.

WHAT IS THAT. IF ORGAN TO GIVE YOU THIS, GONNA SELL THIS PROPERTY TO YOU FOR LESS THAN MARKET RATE. BETTER BUILD THAT HOUSE. LET'S DO IT. IN TERMS OF WHAT SAFEGUARDS WE HAVE IT IS THAT DEED RESTRICTION. WE WILL COMMUNICATE WITH WHOEVER THE PURCHASER IS. REGULARLY CHECK AND WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE BUILDING PROPERTY? HAVE YOU SUBMITTED YET. SO FAR AND SO FORTH. DURING THAT DEADLINE, DILIGENTLY TO DETERMINE THEIR STATUS. THAT IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE PURCHASE PRICE IN THE EVALUATION CRITERIA IF THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE FPR A BOARD MOVING FORWARD WE CAN ADJUST THAT. ALWAYS WHAT YOU CAN UTILIZE THIS PROPERTY FOR? HOW SOON ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCE DOING THIS IN THE PAST? MAINLY THE MAIN GOAL. THEY

BUILT SOME GREAT PRODUCTS. >> GOING FORWARD I THINK THAT ANY INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON THESE PROPERTIES MAY BE JUST PUTTING IN A PRESENTATION. THAT WAY IT LOOKS LIKE NOTHING IS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC. LAST QUESTION MADAM CHAIR I'LL BE QUIET. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL IF WE COULD DO IT. WHAT SAFEGUARDS DO WE HAVE.

FROM THIS COMPANY FLIPPING THIS PROPERTY? BEFORE WE EVEN GO OUT THERE TO TRY TO WRITE THAT FIRST LETTER INTO WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT SAFEGUARDS DO WE HAVE UP-AND-COMING IN FLIPPING PROPERTIES

RIGHT NOW? >> DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER GAINES SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO PROBABLY BE WRITTEN INTO THE ACTUAL DEED THAT GETS RECORDED.

JUST FOR THE INFORMATION OF THE FPR A BOARD. I PULLED ONE OF THE DEEDS THAT WAS CONNECTED TO

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ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WAS SOLD IN 2021. THE LANGUAGE ACTUALLY IN THAT PARTICULAR DEED SAYS THAT THE GRANTEE IF THEY FAIL TO COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN BID NUMBER 2021, 23 WITHIN 18 MONTHS THEN THE PROPERTY REVERTS TO THE FPR A. HAD MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION AND WE COULD INCLUDE SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN FUTURE DEEDS WE CAN STRENGTHEN THAT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT. SOMEBODY COULD ALWAYS WITH WHAT DOES COMPLETE MEAN? WE COULD CALL IT, WE CAN USE THE TERM CO OR

SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. SO THE ANSWER IS YOU PUT IT IN A DEED THAT GETS RECORDED. >> MADAM ATTORNEY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE SOONER OR LATER FORT PIERCE FOR EVERYBODY COMING TO BE HERE. I JUST WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PROTECT NOT ONLY OUR SALES, PROTECT RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE FROM SOMEBODY COMING IN AND GIVING THEM 18 MONTHS, AND THEY FLIP IT AT SIX. RIGHT NOW FROM WHAT I AM HEARING NOTHING IN THE

RESTRICTION THAT THEY CANNOT DO THAT. >> IT SAYS. >> GO AHEAD. >> ALSO POINT OUT. I UNDERSTAND THAT FLIPPING THE PROPERTY WOULD CERTAINLY INVADE THE INTENSE OF THIS BOARD FOR SURE. REGARDLESS OF WHOSE PROPERTY, WHOSE HANDS THE PROPERTY IT ENDS UP IN THERE NEEDS TO BE A STRUCTURE ON IT. WITHIN 18 MONTHS OTHERWISE IT WILL REVERTS BACK REGARDLESS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR. >> OTHER THINGS WE DONE THIS BOARD IN THE CITY COMMISSION STRENGTH IN THAT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT IN THE DEED. SPECIFIC TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. ALSO IN THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE PROPOSER THAT IS BEEN RECOMMENDED. THEY ADVISED IN THEIR TIMELINE. I THINK WE COULD ADD TO THE TIMELINE WERE THE FIRST 120 DAYS ACTUALLY WOULD BE THE FIRST PROBABLY 60 DAYS THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT WITHIN 120 DAYS WILL RECEIVE A BIDDING PERMIT SO THEY COULD CONSTRUCT THE PROPERTY. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH ADDING THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE COMMISSIONER BRODRICK WAS TALKING ABOUT TODAY. JUST TO STRENGTHEN THE OPPORTUNITY THERE. TALK ABOUT FLIPPING THE PROPERTY, NOT FLIPPING THE PROPERTY EITHER WAY I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, AFTER 18 MONTHS IF NOTHING IS COMPLETED THEN COMES BACK TO THE REDEVELOPMENT

AGENCY. >> SHERMAN JOHNSON LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.

>> THIS WHOLE PROCESS. MS. BRODERICK'S EXPERTISE ON THIS. WHEN THEY COMMIT THEIR BIDS COULD THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR PERMIT READY TO GO WITH EVERY ORDER TO BID? I'M JUST ASKING THE DAY WE SAY YES TO THIS, HUNDRED 20 DAYS STARTS. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING SOMETHING POSSIBLE THAT PAPERWORK CAN BE SUBMITTED? I DON'T BUILD ANYTHING I HIRE PEOPLE. I DO NOT BUILD ANYTHING. IF I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING. I'M AFRAID TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY I KNOW SOMETHING. IF I BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY I CAN GUARANTEE I WOULD NOT BE SUBMITTING THAT ONE DOCUMENT TO BUILD ANYTHING. I WOULD HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO IT.

I'M TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION FOR MYSELF. I READ EVERYTHING. AT THE PROBABLY READ THE DOCUMENTS. CROSS AND CIRCLE WHAT THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF IT. AS FAR AS SUBMITTING. YOU WOULD WANT ME TO SUBMIT A PERMIT. PROBABLY LAUGH AT ME. ÃJUST WHERE IT IS. I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF NOT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. THAT WOULD MESS UP THE PROCESS. LET'S VOTE AND GIVE 120 DAYS. I'M FINE WITH THAT. THE ONLY TIME I COULD TALK TO YOU GUYS. I ASKED THE

QUESTION. >> I DON'T THANK YOU WOULD HAVE ANY APPLICANTS. IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT. YOU

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HAVE TO LOOK LITERALLY WITHIN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SUB CLAIM UNDER THEWHETHER IT'S A DRIVEWAY, SEWER CONNECTION. TO PUT YOUR DRIVEWAY ON THE RIGHT BUT HAS TO GO ON THE LEFT. THERE ARE EXPENSES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CHAIRMAN. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION. I WOULD TELL SOMEBODY TO GO OUT AND BUILD MY DRIVEWAY.

THEN WONDER WHY IT'S NOT ON THE RIGHT AND IT'S ON THE LEFT. IT IS WHAT IT IS. I'M JUST

SAYING. >> I AM IN THE SAME BOAT. >> I AM GOOD. THANK YOU. >> HUNDRED PERCENT WITH COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON'S COMMENTS. MAKE THE INVESTMENT BEFORE AWARDED. HAVING SAID THAT, MOST OF THESE PLANS. TO MAKE THE NECESSARY SITE ADJUSTMENTS FOR ANY SPECIFIC SITE TAKE A LITTLE TIME IN INVESTMENT OF MONEY TO COMPLETE THAT. THAT'S WHY I WILL GET MY ENTIRE FOCUS THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS ONE THING. ORGANOSOL THIS, MOTIVATION SINGLE-FAMILY QUALITY HOUSING. THAT'S THE END RESULT HERE. HOW YOU NAVIGATE THAT COURSE TO GET THERE IS YOUR ISSUE AND WHAT YOUR EXPENSES ARE.

I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COMPLICATION WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THINGS WORSE. TWO THINGS, ONE IS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE. IS THAT SOME TYPE OF DEED RESTRICTING THAT THAT'S THE PRODUCT WE WILL END UP WITH? NOT WILL I DECIDED TO BUILD A DUPLEX WITH 500 SQUARE-FOOT APARTMENT IN IT. VERSUS A 7101700 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. PROTECTIONS ALLOW THERE? I'M JUST CONCERNED THERE AWARDED IT AND THEY SHOW UP WITH A PERMIT AND BUILDING SOMETHING COMPLETELY NOT. POINT NUMBER ONE. MY SECOND POINT COMMISSIONER GAINES POINT ABOUT FLIPPING. I THINK THE CITY COMMISSIONER WOULD BE STUNNED AT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT COME UP THROUGH THE RANKS THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD, CITY COMMISSION, APPROVED AND IMMEDIATELY PUT BACK ON THE MARKET. THE MARKET AS WITH APPROVALS IN HAND.

PRODUCTS OUT FREE APPROVAL. THERE IS NO PREAPPROVAL. YOU NEED TO APPROVE.

SIMPLY PUT. CONSISTENTLY WITH PROJECTS THAT THIS VOTED ON RECENTLY, PLANNING BOARD VOTED ON OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE BOILED UP TO THE FOOD CHAIN. IMMEDIATELY PLACED BACK ON THE MARKET WITH A MASSIVE PREMIUM AND EVALUATION. NOW THEY HAVE APPROVALS IN HAND. THAT IS WHAT I REALLY WANT TO AVOID. THERE IS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT TYPE OF THING. IT'S LIKE LOOK, YOU AWARD THE BID. SOMEWHAT UNDER MARKET VALUE FOR THE SALE, THAT TO ME IS A MINOR ISSUE. THE BIGGER GAIN IS QUALITY PRODUCT IS BEING PUT OUT THERE FOR RENTAL AND FOR SALE. JUST AS LOWE'S WE HAVE A PACKAGE OF PROTECTIONS THAT 18 MONTHS FROM NOW GOING TO DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD AND SEE TWO BRAND-NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH. HAVE THAT PACKET OF APPROVAL TO DO EVEN SUGGESTING CERTAINLY COULD BE A TIGHTER TIMELINE THAN 18 MONTHS. IF THAT TIMELINE REDUCED, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT. DEED RESTRICTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN THAT OBVIOUSLY TOO EARLY TO SORT THAT OUT. THAT IS THE END GOAL. LET'S DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET TO THE END GOAL THAT MAY BE THE PRODUCT, IF NOT TAKING THE LAND BACK. THERE IS NO PERMITTING, DO NOT CARE WHEN THE SHOVEL IS GOING IN THE GROUND IT'S IRRELEVANT TO ME FOR 18 MONTHS, 12 MONTHS WHATEVER THAT TIMELINE IS I WANT A HOUSE. THERE, DONE. I DON'T THINK IT'S OVERLY COMPLICATED. I DON'T. LEAVE THAT UP TO THE TEAM HERE TO

SORT OUT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. >> GIVES SOME INPUT, WHAT I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER GAINES REALLY MY CONCERN IS. THE RIGHT TO APPOINT THE DEED PART OF THIS MEANING THE WHOLE PART IS. WHAT I'VE HEARD AFFORDABLE, TYPE HOUSING. CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT THEM SPECULATORS COMING IN AND GETTING THIS LOW PRICE ALL OF A SUDDEN. IT'S HIGHER THAN PEOPLE CAN AFFORD. WE HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT. WE ARE NOT FULFILLING THAT. FOR ME THAT DEED CERTAINLY LOOKS ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF THIS. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BID THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT LANGUAGE. THAT CERTAIN PAUSE NOT ONLY BUILD IT, THEY MET MUST HOLD IT IN AND MAINTAIN IT WITH THE INITIAL EMPLOYEE THEY CAME WITH FOR THAT'S ONLY WE WERE GONNA HAVE ANY TYPE OF INTEGRITY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IF WE COME IN AND PRICE ESCALATES THAT CAUSES THAT IS

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NOT WHAT THE MISSION OF FPR A IS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT JUMPED OUT TO ME MADAM ATTORNEY, WHEN WE LOOK AT AWARDING SOMEBODY THIS PROJECT. THEY HAVE COME IN THE GIVING US WHAT WILL LOOK LIKE PERHAPS. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A PART OF OUR PROCESS. WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THAT, WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S WHAT A

SPECULATION GOING OUT PUTTING IT OUT BACK ON THE MARKET, HAVE IT PRETEND THAT WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN UP THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE. I'M GOING WITH THIS. AGAIN, I GO BACK TO MY POINT.

WE HAVE 10 IN MY MIND WHEN I LOOKED AROUND AT THE STUFF. HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED AS A WINNER. I LOOKED AT THAT VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT PACKAGE I DID MY BACKGROUND RESEARCH ON THEM. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO KNOW THEM A LITTLE BIT. I AM SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR, I'VE SEEN THE FINISHED PRODUCT. WHEN INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EVERYONE AROUND THAT BEAUTIFUL COMPLEX RIGHT THERE. THEY MAINTAINED IT. 25 POINTS TO ME AT LEAST WANT TO HAVE THEM COME BEFORE US THAT WE UNDERSTAND. I REALLY DON'T KNOW THEM AS WELL. I JUST KNOW THE PRODUCT. THEY HAVE PROVEN THEY HAVE DONE THIS IN THIS COMMUNITY BEFORE.

>> I DID RECOGNIZE THE NAMES. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. >> >> WHEN THEY BUILT THAT PLACE ON EIGHTH STREET OR NINTH STREET. THE BEAUTIFUL DUPLEX THEY BUILT THAT. THAT IS WHAT I'M WITH THAT. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GET PERHAPS THESE TWO IN FRONT OF US. I LIKE THAT. I WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THAT ANYTHING FINAL DUET HOW YOU FEEL AT THAT POINT AND GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU.

>> YES SIR. >> I AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER. THE ONLY CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH THEM IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET. I LOOKED AT BOTH OF THEM TO EVALUATE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. ONE BUDGET WAS IN THE $300,000 RANGE FROM ONE BUDGET WHICH IS THE NUMBER TWO PROPOSAL IS $462,000 BUDGET. ONE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY OPTION. ONE IS A DUPLEX OPTION.

WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT LIKE TO HAVE THEM KEEP CONTROL OF IT. I'M NOT SURE I'M LOOKING FOR A HOME OWNERSHIP. WITHIN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WHETHER IT'S DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESSES, OR OTHERS. THOSE ARE MY CHALLENGES WITH MY EVALUATION OF THE TOP TWO JUST LOOKING AT IT BEING WELL UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SUBMITTED. PROPOSAL NUMBER ONE EASTERN CAPITAL AT THIS POINT. SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD BUILD IT HUNDRED 50,000 PER UNIT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKING THAT'S WHAT THEY SUBMITTED. GO BACK TO IT JUST TO MAKE SURE. LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO RIGHT THIS SECOND. YOU HAVE THE

PROPOSAL LAYER? >> 300,000. >> THERE IS THAT PART OF IT. FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, WHICH ARE VERY COMPREHENSIVE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I AGREE I UNDERSTAND I'VE SEEN TELCO PRODUCT BEFORE. I'M ACTUALLY A FAN OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR. I LIKE THIS ONE TOO. IT'S A COMPETITIVE BID. I DO NOT KNOW HOW WERE GOING FOR THAT THIS POINT OTHER THAN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. I'M NOT SURE THEIR NUMBERS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. IF WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FINANCIALS GOING TO CHANGE? NOT DEBATE STATEMENTS THEIR PROPOSAL. THE ESTIMATES TO BUILD IT. CONSTRUCTION IS CONSTRUCTION. CUBIC YARD, TWO BY FOURS, OR TWO BY FOURS. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT WITH THE

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OVER UNDER

$50,000 TOTAL PACKAGE. I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THAT MUCH GROUND. >> RAISE AN INTERESTING POINT. WILL THIS PRODUCT FOR $84 A SQUARE FOOT? IN TODAY'S MARKET.

THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY. MY QUESTION MAKE ME A BELIEVER. I AM NOT SEEING THAT. THEY'RE NOT HERE SITTING IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION. IT MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WHY THEY COULD BUILD IT AT $84 A SQUARE FOOT. VERSUS THE SECOND BETTER TO 130 SOMEWHERE IN THE OFFICE OF VICINITY. 140 POTENTIALLY RAISES A WHOLE OTHER QUESTION IS THIS BEING STAGED FOR RESALE, FLIPPING, ETC.? I DON'T THANK YOU COULD DO $84 A SQUARE FOOT. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

HOWEVER, AS FAR AS THE MAKING APPLICATIONS TO MAKE THAT POINT. LEADS ME DOWN THE PATH OF WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS SAYING MAYBE WE NEED THEM BEFORE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD

MORE INFORMATION. >> I THINK THE STUFF IS DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR GOING OUT AND BRINGING THIS BACK. AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON YOU MENTIONED ONE A MENTAL PROCESS UNIT ETC. THAT STILL A TAXPAYER THAT OWNS THAT. AS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. CHARGING THEM RENTS. ONE IS A HOMEOWNER, A BUSY LOOKING TO PROBABLY SELL THESE AND MAYBE HOW PEOPLE QUALIFIED TO OWN THESE HOMES. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

WHAT I'M SAYING SOME THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME SQUARE FOOTAGE, I THINK WE DETERMINED TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENT WHEN THAT PERSON IS IN FRONT OF US. GIVES US A CHANCE TO HAVE A FOCUSED CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE TWO IN MY MIND ARE VERY CLOSE WHEN IT COMES TO IT. 25 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVALUATORS STATISTICAL CHALLENGE.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS. BOTH ARE GREAT PRODUCTS I COULD GO WITH EITHER ONE. AT THIS POINT ALL OF US TO WAIT IN RESPECTIVE EXPERTISE TO SEE WHAT WE ACTUALLY SEE, WHAT WE FEEL, AND WHAT WE HEAR. EITHER ONE PROVIDES A LIVING SPACE FOR SOMEONE THAT IS GOING TO NEED A

HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT. >> COMMISSIONER GAINS. >> I'VE SAT HERE BEING QUIET. I'VE HEARD MY COLLEAGUES ASK QUESTIONS THAT THE STAFF SHOULD NOT ANSWER. I THINK THAT THE PERSON WHO WON THE STATE OR THE COMPANY THAT ONE THIS BUDGET HAVE TO COME UP IN FRONT OF US AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS. NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE STAFF. GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS. HOWEVER, IF I HAVE A QUESTION TO ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS I WANT THEM TO LOOK AT US AND LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL FORT PIERCE AND ANSWER THE QUESTION. THEN IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE ARE DOING ANYTHING, BUT TO THE BEST BENEFIT OF FORT PIERCE.

COMMISSIONER BRODRICK IF THIS PERSON WAS HERE WHERE THE TEAM WAS HERE, EVERY QUESTION HE WANTED TO ASK YOU COULD ASK AND YOU COULD SEE THEM ANSWERED. I KNOW WE WANT THIS 18 MONTHS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BEFORE STARTS TO ROLL OR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED BY THIS BOARD. IF NOT, THEN COULD HAVE BEEN UNJUST CAN BE HONEST WITH YOU COULD HAVE BEEN OUR CONSENT AGENDA, MADE A VOTE. WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION NOW. LOOK AT THE DISCUSSION, LOOK AT ALL THE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE HAD. HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. MADAM CHAIR. SHE KEPT HER QUESTIONS WHICH IS FINE. THEY ARE COMING. HOW MANY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS CAME FROM EVERY SEAT CANNOT JUST BASED ON THIS PRESENTATION? IT SHOULD NOT BE ON YOU GUYS ANYWAYS. MADAM ATTORNEY OVER THERE. THEY'RE COMMON TO US FOR GIVING THEM A DEAL, YOU WON THE BID, ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS. WERE CALM AND SIT BEHIND YOU AND EXPLAIN THE PRESENTATION.

AND THEIR THOUGHTS. TELL ME HOW YOU'RE GONNA PULL SOMETHING FOR $84. COMPARED TO $135.

TONY IS THIS YOUR TRUE VISION? THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE? IN 18 MONTHS.

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STAND RIGHT THERE.

THE CITY COMMISSION WHEN WE HAVE THE HEARINGS, STAFF PRESENT SOMETHING MADAM MAYOR OPENS IT UP. THE PERSON STANDS THERE AND THE MAYOR SAYS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I GOT A REMEMBER. DID A GREAT JOB. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? GIVE A PRESENTATION.

THEN THEY STAND RIGHT AT THE PODIUM AND ASKED EVERY QUESTION OR TRY TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THAT IS ANSWERED. FROM ALL OF US. THEN WE OPEN IT UP TO THE DEPARTMENT.

THEY SIT THERE AND THEY TAKE NOTES. THEY TRY TO COME BACK AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IF POSSIBLE. SO, I THINK GOING FORWARD, HOWEVER WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. ONCE WE GOING WITH I ESPECIALLY WITH SOMEBODY SO CLOSE. SOMEBODY SO CLOSE. I DON'T SEE BRINGING BOTH. I TRUST YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS AWARDED IT TO THESE PEOPLE. THEY WON OF THE NUMBERS. BASED ON THE SCORE, THEY ARE THE HIGHEST SCORE. IS THAT FAIR? THEY ARE THE HIGHEST SCORE.

ONCE YOU GET THAT HIGH SCORE NOW YOU COME TALK TO US. THE BOARD SATISFIES THE BOARD BY ENTERING THE BOARD QUESTION. NOW THAT WE SAY YESTERDAY, THEN WE ALL GO HOME TONIGHT WONDERING WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? RIGHT NOW. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD. I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR, FIVE, MAYBE SIX QUESTIONS I HEARD THAT ARE NOT ANSWERED RIGHT NOW BY EVERYONE SITTING UP HERE. FOR THE PUBLIC TO KEEP THE TRUST IN THIS BOARD, LET THEM COME AND EVERYBODY C. LET THEM ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHAT THE

COMMUNITY SEE WHO IS COMING IN AND WHO IS BUILDING THIS PROJECT. >> AS YOU'RE TALKING I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE WHOLE REASON WE DO AN RFP IS TO DO EVALUATIONS AND THE POINT SYSTEM. DO IT BASED ON WHAT THEY SUBMITTED. IT'S KIND OF BLIND JUSTICE IF YOU WILL, RIGHT? ONE OF THE REASONS YOU DO IT. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THE LOBBY AND OR THE ADVOCACY IN IT. YOU WANT AN EVALUATION. I WANT TO ASK MS. EARLY, IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS RFP WE ARE BOUND TO TAKE THE BEST BET. RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE THAT APPLIES IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT SETTING A PRECEDENT WERE OKAY, THIS ONE KIND OF CLOSE. WE WANT TO SEE BOTH OF THEM. WE'VE ALSO GOT ANOTHER ONE THERE THAT OVER 300 THAT IS CLOSE TOO. I DON'T WANT TO CUT THIS OFF IF THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO. I'M I DON'T WANT TO SET THAT WERE GONNA HAVE THIS MORE TIMES THAN NOT. THAT DEFEATS THE WHOLE

PURPOSE OF AN RFP. >> MADAM CHERYL LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE BEST OF THEM ASKING FOR. WHAT I'M SAYING WE'VE GIVEN SOME SCORES. THEY HIGHLIGHTED A COMPANY WITH 358. THAT COMPANY THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED 358 SAYS THEY WERE THE HIGHEST COMPANY AT THAT COMPANY, AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD. NOT EVERYBODY, JUST THAT COMPANY.

SINCE WE RELY ON OUR STAFF. THEY HAVE THAT NUMBER THAT COMPANY TO COME IN. TONIGHT APPROVAL OF THE AWARD. YOU NEED TO BE HERE. YOU NEED TO BE HERE. THE BOARD IS GOING TO

APPROVE THIS SALE. THEY MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS. THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING. >> I THANK YOU FOR

THAT CLARIFICATION. I WANT TO HEAR FROM MS. EARLY. >> MADAM MAYOR WITH THAT CLARIFICATION.

I THINK PROBABLY MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO HANDLE THAT WOULD BE TO IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF YOUR BOARD TO SELECT THE WINNING BIDDER MAKE AN AWARD TONIGHT, THAT YOU AUTHORIZE STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE WINNING BIDDER AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A DEED RECORDED, A CONTRACT GETS

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DRAWN UP WITH ALL OF THE TERMS AND ADDRESSING THE DIFFERENT POINTS THAT THE COMMISSION/FPR A BOARD HAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT. AND COME BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT. AT THAT TIME IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER TO BE PRESENT IN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE. PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT AND PRIOR TO APPROVAL

OF THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING STAFF TO FURTHER THE SALE. >> ON THE QUESTION OF ASKING THAT WE WANT TO QUESTION THESE TWO.

AFTER THE RFP PROCESS. DOES NOT FOLLOW THE RULES? HOW DOES THAT FIT IN WITH WHERE PROPOSED

TO DO? >> I THINK IT SHOULD BE VERY RARELY DONE. FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. I CAN DISCUSS AT A

LATER TIME. >> I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE KIND OF OPENING THE FLOODGATES OF CHALLENGES AND WANTING. RFP PROCESS FIRST TO BE KIND OF A BUYING PROCESS. IN TERMS OF. YOUR RANKING, RANKING BASED ON POINTS. NOT NECESSARILY A PURE

SCIENCE OR ANYTHING. NOTHING IS. GO AHEAD MS. EARLY. >> LIKE I SAID. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE THAT A VERY RURAL PROCESS AND NOT SAYING IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN. I THINK THAT YOU ARE POTENTIALLY CREATING ISSUES IF YOU DO THAT TOO FREQUENTLY. SO. I WILL

LEAVE IT AT THAT MAYOR. >> THE REASON I WAS THINKING OF THAT COMMISSIONER GAINES, THE RFP PROCESS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN A LEGISLATIVE IN A WAY. IT'S MEANT TO BE A

DIFFERENT PROCESS I THINK. >> MADAM CHAIR I WAS NOT EVEN GOING THERE.

WAS NOT EVEN GOING THERE TONIGHT. I WANTED TO CLARIFY. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. HOWEVER, ONCE THE HIGHEST NUMBER IS SELECTED, ONCE THE HIGHER NUMBER IS SELECTED, I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE ANYTHING IS FINALIZED THAT WE SEE THAT COMPANY, OR WHOEVER. SEE THAT COMPANY IN ANY OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, OR COMMISSIONERS CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS TO THAT ARE TRYING TO SAY IT RIGHT. THAT HIGH NUMBER APPLICANT WHATEVER THE HIGHEST NUMBER. THAT WAY ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. I LOVE THE IDEA OF WHAT MADAM ATTORNEY JUST SAID. WE APPROVE IT, WE ADD WHAT WE WANTED TO ADD IN THE CONTRACT. BEFORE WE APPROVE A CONTRACT WE HAVE THAT PERSON COME IN AND SAY, THEN GET THE QUESTIONS THAT NIGHT. I LOVE THAT MADAM ATTORNEY I WOULD RATHER DO IT HERE. IF THEY COME IN TONIGHT, WE WOULD BE SAYING YES, SIR NUMBER IF WE SAY NO THEN ADDED THE CONTRACT WE START ALL OVER. WE CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS NOW GOING INTO THE CONTRACT AND THEY SEE WHERE WE ARE GOING. LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT. IT'S TOO MUCH. MAYBE I'M THINKING TOO MUCH. BOTTOM LINE MADAM ATTORNEY I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE HIGHEST EVALUATOR RANKING WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM PERSON IS, WHATEVER COMPANY THEY ARE. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEM, OR AT LEAST SEE THEM SO NOT ONLY DO I SEE THEM THEY STAND THERE, EVERYBODY IN FORT PIERCE IS THEM. THEY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE THROW QUESTIONS AT THE END. WE MIGHT COME IN AND BE HAPPY. MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. THESE GIVE US IN THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND GO FORWARD.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR WHATEVER TIME WE COULD DO THAT. I DON'T CARE. I DO NOT WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE TOP THREE. TO ME THAT WOULD CREATE A DISASTER. IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE ONE WITH THE HIGHEST POINT TOTAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

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THAT PERSON. OR COMPANY. >> MADAM CHAIR IS LOOKING AT ME. >>

I'M LOOKING AT YOU. TRYING TO SEE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? >> AGAIN, I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY WOULD BE FOR THE BOARD TO SELECT FROM WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED, MAKE AN AWARD, AND THEN HAVE THE WINNER, WHICH IS THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN SELECTED BY THE BOARD COME BACK WITH A CONTRACT AT THAT TIME THEY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU WANT OR YOU COULD LET STAFF KNOW. AGAIN, THERE IS A LONG WAY BETWEEN SELECTION AND ACTUAL CLOSING. THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK FOR THAT. THERE'S GOING TO BE A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE CLOSING ACTUALLY HAPPENED AS WELL. TO THE EXTENT SOMETHING GOES WRONG AT THE CONTRACT THEORIES, I THINK THAT IS A SMALL DELAY THAT PROBABLY IS WORTH IT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE DOING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

FOLLOWING A THOROUGH PROCESS IN

TERMS OF THE WARNING OF BID. >> PART OF THE PROCESS. GOING BACK TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

POSSIBLE FOR US TO INCORPORATE INTO THE DEED WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS PRIORITY OVER THE PURCHASING SETTLE AGREEMENT, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE ETC. WHAT THE REPRESENTING IS WHAT IS GONNA END UP ON THE LOT. THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS COMMISSIONER GAINES. PART OF THAT PROCESS, HOWEVER, I WANTED IN THE RECORDED DOCUMENT. THEY COULD STAND HERE AND SAY, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO STAY AT ONE IN WRITING RECORDED. THE REASON I BRING THAT UP MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY YEARS ON THE PLANET THAT THIS DISPOSITION OF A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RENTAL STOCK, SALES STOCK, ETC. PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE SEEING A BUNCH OF DAYS. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE PROCESS MORE COOKIE-CUTTER. WITH SAFEGUARDS I DO NOT WANT TO COME OUT OF THE GATE AND STUB OUR TOE IN 18 MONTHS, 15 MONTHS, 12 MONTHS.

A LOT UPPER STILL LOOKING TO BE FLIPPED. NOT TO ME WOULD BE A FAILURE ON ALL PARTS HERE.

IT'S WEIRD THE WATCHDOG AT THE DOOR. IF WE COULD DEAL WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS, PROPER LANGUAGE OF A PERSON INTERVIEWING THE TOP CANDIDATE TO ASK HOW YOU PUT THIS BLOCK ON THIS LOT. AS ON THAT PICTURE GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES FOR $84 A FOOT. I WANT TO HEAR THAT FROM THEM. NOW OUR TEAM'S JOB TO DO THAT. THEY'RE NOT THE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE. PERSON GETTING THE AWARD ON THIS PROCESS. THEY NEED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WITH SPECIFIC FINE DETAIL. WE GET A DEAL WITH TWO OF THESE GONNA DEAL WITH 100 OF THESE. OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. I WANT A COOKIE CUTTER WAY TO HANDLE THIS WITH ALL THOSE BOXES CHECK TO ME KNOW ONCE WE MADE THAT DECISION WE MADE A SAFE DECISION THE CITY WILL BE PROTECTED. CURRENTLY DEALING WITH ONE COMING UP ON DEADLINE.

I DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT. LET'S PUT THE INSURANCE IN PLACE. SUGGESTIONS THE TEAM SUGGESTIONS, AND OF COURSE Q AND A TO THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE ACTUALLY GONNA GET THE PRODUCT THAT WE EXPECT TO GET. IF THEY THEY HAVE TO BE ON THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL FOR

YOUR GONNA LOSE THE PROPERTY, CAN GO RIGHT BACK TO THE CITY. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK IS, YOU MADE MY ARGUMENT. YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT THAT PERSON AND SAY JUST LIKE YOU DID. LOOK AT THAT PERSON AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I WANT. THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO GET. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. IT'S COMING FROM THAT AND IT'S NOT PUTTING IT'S NOT PASSING THE BURDEN ON OUR STAFF. THEY'VE DONE THEIR PART NOW IS OUR TIME. HOW WE CAN EXECUTE ON THIS? WE NEED REAL

ESTATE PEOPLE. ALL I'M SAYING IS. >> EVERY DAY. >> WE ARE ELECTED TO ASK THESE TOUGH QUESTIONS. PRECISELY. IT'S NOT THE STAFF, IT IS US. WHEN SOMETHING HITS THE FAN WE

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CANNOT LOOK AT THE STAFF. WE HAD A CHANCE TO GET THEM IN HERE AND ASK THE QUESTION. >> WE HAVE THE PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY BUILT IN. DON'T EXECUTE IT AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK TO THE CITY. THAT HELP BUILD REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS HAPPEN. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> LET US DOING. UNCLEAR HOW WE DO IT LET US DO IT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> DO WE HAVE

A MOTION? >> TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT SHE SAID. TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT SHE SAID.

BEFORE I MAKE THIS MOTION TRIED TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS MOTION MADAM ATTORNEY DO WANT THE MOTION DOES THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE INTO MOTION? OR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SAY WE WANT TO DO. WE COULD DISAPPROVE IT. I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE RECORD.

ATTEMPT TWO. >> YOU COULD INCLUDE IN THE MOTION YOU'RE AUTHORIZING STAFF TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. WE WILL PUT IT ON AN AGENDA WHEN THE AGREEMENT IS READY.

>> I MOTION WHAT SHE JUST SAID. >> I SECOND THAT. >> MADAM CHAIR MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE STAFF. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. WE APPROVE THE AWARD FOR EASTERN CAPITAL. WE ADVISE THE STAFF TO START NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT WHICH THE HIGHEST BIDDER SUBJECT TO THAT PROCESS

COMES BACK IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR A FINAL VOTE. GOT IT? >> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?

>> SECOND. >> READY TO VOTE? >> CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >>

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER

[b. Approval to award RFP No. 2023-017 for Sale of Surplus Property at 612 N 25th Street, identified by Parcel ID: 2404-710-0067-000-3, to the highest ranked responder, Larry Lee Jr. & Family, LLC]

GAINES. >> YES. CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> YES MA'AM.

>> APPROVAL RFP NUMBER 2023 Ã017 SALE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY 6121 25TH STREET. HIGHEST RANK RESPONDER FAMILY LLC.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> YOU HAVE MORE THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT? I WILL PRESENT THE NEXT ONE NORTH 25TH STREET.

THIS PROPERTY LOCATED ONE OF THE MAJOR CORE DOORS HERE NORTH 25TH STREET.

ALMOST THE CORNER OF AVENUE F AND 25TH. EVALUATION CRITERIA THE SAME PER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE TIME WHEN CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES PERMITTED FINANCIAL ABILITY, PROPERTY UTILIZATION AND SUMMARY OF DEVELOPMENT. FOR THIS RFP WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONDENTS. LARRY AND JUNIOR LLC THE HIGHEST RANK RESPONDER 291 POINT OUT OF 400. LARRY, INTENDS TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY FOR $5000. THEY INTEND TO PUT A PART, OR GARDEN/MEMORIAL PARK WHERE IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY HISTORY, CITY PIONEER, AND GRAVE BRICK PAVERS.

CONSTRUCTION COST $60,000. THEY PLAN TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE BOARD APPROVAL AND BOARD CLOSING.

OUR RECOMMENDATION TO BE AWARDED THE RFP FOR 612 NORTH 25TH STREET TO THE HIGHEST RANK

RESPONDED LARRY LEE JUNIOR IN FAMILY LLC. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS OF MS. GARCIA?

>> MADAM CHAIR. >> YES SIR. >> COULD YOU GO BACK TO I LOOK THROUGH THE PACKET TO RESPONDED ON THIS AND LOOKED AT IT IN DETAIL. ONE WAS PROPOSING SOME TYPE OF HOUSING. THE OTHER ONE PROPOSING WHAT I WOULD CALL PUBLIC FACILITY TYPE ACCOMMODATION. I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING IN HERE THAT . I SEE A SCORE HERE. GO BACK ONE MORE TIME. DID YOUR FINANCIALS PART

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OF THIS PREVIEW LOOK A PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY? YES. >> SOMETHING IN THE PACKET SPECIFICALLY THAT CAUSED SOME CONCERN WHEN I LOOKED AT IT. ONE APPLICANT GAVE NO FINANCIAL INFORMATION. THE OTHER APPLICANT GAVE A LETTER THAT STATED SOME MONEY. I LOOK BACK IN THE LETTER. THE LETTER WAS ADDRESSED TO THE PERSON THAT BID ON IT. ANOTHER PERSON'S