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>> GOOD MORNING (INDISCERNIBLE) SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL BE PRESIDING THIS MORNING. RECEIVED NOTICE THAT YOUR PROPERTY WAS POSSIBLY IN VIOLATION OF A PARTICULAR CITY CODE (INDISCERNIBLE). WE WILL HEAR YOUR CASE SHORTLY.
NUMBER 1, DOES ANYBODY NEED AN INTERPRETER? AND NUMBER 2, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE STAND FOR THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE
[A. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH TO DEPARTMENTAL WITNESSES]
FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE GOING TO TESTIFY. THE CLERK MAC WILL SWEAR YOU
AND PRIOR TO YOUR TESTIMONY. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SWEARING IN]
>> ONE THING I'VE NOTICED HERE LATELY IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE WE START.
SOMETIMES, PEOPLE GET UPSET BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE FOR TRAFFIC TICKETS OR WHATEVER REASON.
AND YOU WANT TO NOT BE NICE TO THE ÁPHONEÁ ARE DOING THEIR JOBS WHO ISSUED THE CITATIONS OR WHATEVER.
PLEASE, LET'S JUST BE NICE TO EACH OTHER.
PLEASE, BE CIVIL. DON'T ATTACK THE OFFICERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOBS.
AND WHATEVER FRUSTRATION YOU HAVE -- DIRECTED TO ME AND NOT
[B. IDENTIFICATION OF CASES IN COMPLIANCE OR RESCHEDULED]
TO THEM. BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST DOING THEIR JOBS. THANK YOU.MADAM CLERK.> WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE IDENTIFICATION OF CASES AND COMPLIANCES RESCHEDULE.
OUR FIRST CASE WOULD BE 23-4 339, 2327 S. US HIGHWAY 1 ACCELERATION ACADEMIES LLC. 23-417 MELODY LANE STUDIO 34949, 23-502, 415 NORTH US HIGHWAY 1 QUINCE QUALITY CAR CARE INC. 23-493, 308 AVENUE A INDIAN RIVER MAGAZINE INC.
24-430, 341 DIXIELAND DRIVE, AUTO RESCUE INC. 23-443, 4804 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1, BIG DOG COMICS.
23-507, 4806 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1, THUNDERDOME GAMING.
23-459, 2729 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1, SUITE 10.
FIESTAS Y VARIEDADES 23-492, 415 NORTH HIGHWAY ONE ICONIC AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE AND SALES INC. 23-444, 2200 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1 CREDIBLE AUTO SPA. 23-445, 109 FISHERMAN'S WHARF, CROCADILLOS. 23-495, 200 NORTH YOU US HIGHWAY 1 MADISON ON US ONE LLC.
23-456, 3223 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1, UNIT D, DOS AMIGOS SPORTS BAR INC. 23-506, 101 NORTH YOU US HIGHWAY 1, SUITE 113 TEASE BEAUTY TRAP. 23-454, 1011 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1 DATA TIRES. 23-501, 101 NORTH YOU US HIGHWAY 1, SUITE 127 MASSAGE THERAPEUTIC SOLUTIONS LLC.
23-379 210 NORTH SECOND STREET FALON BARKER, 23-380, 130 S.
INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, IRECOVERY LLC.
23-0 411, 206 NORTH SECOND STREET LEGIT CUTS.
23-412, 207 ATLANTIC AVENUE, MILANO BAIL BONDS INC. 23-162, 310 S. 13TH STREET TOWNSEND. 23-488, 3821 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1 GOLD COAST AUTOMOTIVEINC. . D/B/A AMPCO.
23-430 T SOUTH YOU US HIGHWAY 1, SMOKING BUTS SMOKE SHOP.
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3-414, 208 AVENUE A, PICKLED. 23-441, 4842 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1 TO MARY'S HL COLLECTION. 23-227, 100 NORTH BAUMAN.23- (INDISCERNIBLE) EVERHART. 22 ? 358, 524 S. 11TH STREET LOZANO. 23-498, 2128 LOW STILLNESS MEXICAN FOOD. 23- SOUTH YOU US HIGHWAY 1 INSTALLATION STATION INC. 23-413, 130 S. INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, SUITE 202, PUBLIC ADJUSTER FOR YOU LLC.
23-554 -- OR 545 -- 223 ORANGE AVENUE, RIZZO'S TOBACCO EMPORIUM INC. 23-504-1998 NORTH YOU US HIGHWAY 1, SEAWAY PETROLEUM INC. 23-539, 5301 S. YOU US HIGHWAY 1 US 1/10 CORPORATION 23-419, 100 S. SECOND STREET SUITE 101, SUSHI GO CONCEPTS OF FORT PIERCE LLC. 23-273, 3015 KENTUCKY AVENUE, CLAUDIA GONZALES. 22-1168, 214 HIALEAH AVENUE, SPAIN HOWARD. 22-1014 05 NORTH 25TH STREET AND HN INC. 23-554, 112 ORANGE AVENUE, REEF TWO RANCH REAL
[A. 23-279 200 Blk S 2nd St Samuel Arturo Vanegas Ranirez Charmaine Kirkland]
ESTATE. 23-170, 419 S. 13TH STREET SIAL. AND 23-279, 200 BLOCK SOUTHSECOND STREET RAMIREZ. >> SHE DESERVES A DRINK OF
[C. 23-629 PK 400 Blk N 2nd St Victor Jesus Sanguesa-Nunez Michael Rabenecker]
WATER AFTER THAT! [LAUGHTER] THE FIRST CASE TODAY WILL BE 23-629, 400 BLOCK NORTH SECOND STREET, VICTOR VICTOR JESUSSANGUESA-NUNEZ. >> GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR.
FOR YOU THIS MORNING IS CASE NUMBER 23-629, A PARKING CITATION WRITTEN AT THE 400 BLOCK OF NORTH SECOND STREET.
THE CASE WAS INITIATED ON MARCH 4, 2023.
THIS IS A CITATION APPEAL. THE VIOLATOR IN THE CASE CAME BACK AS A VICTOR JESUS SANGUESA-NUNEZ .
THE CITATION NUMBER WRITTEN IS 19120, A PARKING CITATION, A VIOLATION CITY ORDINANCE 34-30 1E.O PARKING AT ANY TIME.
HE CITY IS REQUESTING A $50 FINE BE ASSESSED, A $10 ADMINISTRATION FEE FOR A TOTAL OF $60.
THE CITY REQUESTED IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DOES FIND THE VIOLATION IS W-- -- I HAVE PHOTOS THAT ACCURATELY PORTRAY
THE VIOLATION AS WITNESS. >> HAS THE RESPONDENT SEEN THE
PHOTOGRAPHS? >> THAT'S MY CAR.
DO YOU HAVE THE APPEAL PAPERWORK? SIR, DO YOU WISH THE CITATION APPEAL THAT YOU SENT IN YOUR FORM TO BE ADMITTED AS EVIDENCE FOR THIS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO
>> SO I'M GOING TO RETURN THE PIECE THAT HAS HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE IN DESK OF THE CITY WILL MOVE IN COMPOSITE EXHIBIT 1, CITIES
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EXHIBIT, THE PHOTOGRAPHS. ON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT, AS RESPONDENTS EXHIBIT 1 WILL BE HIS APPEAL PAPERWORK.>> IT WILL BE ADMITTED AS SUCH.
ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, YOUR HONOR.
>> OH YOU DID REVIEW THE PHOTOGRAPH?
>> YES, I REVIEW THE PICTURES. CORRECT.
>> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATIONS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I CAME FROM NEW JERSEY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. AND I'M REALLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE MARKS ON THE STREETS, ON THE FLOOR.
I WAS HOPING TO SEE, LIKE MAYBE A SIGN THAT SAYS NO PARKING.
AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNS. AND IT WAS JUST TEMPORARY.
I PARKED BEHIND MY NEIGHBOR, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PARKING AVAILABLE.
AND I JUST TEMPORARILY, I PARKED THERE.
WELL, I CAME BACK ABOUT 20 MINUTES LATER, AND I HAD THE TICKET ON. AND I'M VERY SORRY FOR THAT.
JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A TICKET -- PARK PARKING AREA.
SO I WISH YOU COULD GIVE ME AT LEAST THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING AT LEAST A WARNING SIGN. AND DEFINITELY, IT WON'T HAPPEN
>> NO, YOUR HONOR. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED
>> YOU KNOW, THERE IS A UNIVERSAL EXPRESSION THAT SAYS IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE.
>> IN A WAY, I WAS KIND OF IGNORANT ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE I NEVER WENT THROUGH THE SITUATION I'M GOING NOW.
HIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE, IN FLORIDA, THE HAVE THAT ENCOUNTER WITH THE PARKING SITUATION.
I'M NOT TRYING TO EXCUSE MYSELF, I'M JUST ASKING FOR MERCY, YOUR HONOR. IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME A WARNING SIGN OR SOMETHING? I'M RETIRED.
I HAVE NO MONEY. I HAVE NO JOB.
SO IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO COMPLY WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY
THAT I REALLY DON'T HAVE. >> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? ALL RIGHT.
BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED I FIND A VIOLATION EXISTS AND YOU THE PARTY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. I'LL IMPOSE A FINE OF $50, AND ADMIN'S FEE OF AN ADDITIONAL $10 FOR A TOTAL FINE OF $60.
YOU HAVE 14 DAYS TO PAY. FAILURE TO PAY COULD RESULT THE TICKET BEING SENT TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM WHERE YOU WILL INCUR ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIGNED. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I DESIRE.
>> AND ALL OF US HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
>> ALL RIGHT. (INDISCERNIBLE).>> THANK YOU.
[E. 23-671PK 600 North Indian River Drive Alkeviades Stamatis Theodorakis Michael Rabenecker]
NEXT CASE. >> THE NEXT CASE WILL BE 23-671, 600 NORTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS THE WRONG WAY.
>> YOU CAN CALL ME JERRY! >> (LAUGHING) THANK YOU.
>> JERRY (NAME). YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?
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>> ALKEVIADES STAMATIS, B YOU CAN CALL ME JERRY.
>> WHEN YOU'RE READY. >> YOUR HONOR, THE NEXT CASE BEFORE YOU IS CASE NUMBER 23-671, PARKING VIOLATION THAT OCCURRED AT THE 600 NORTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.
THE CASE WAS INITIATED ON MARCH 5, 2023.
THIS IS A CITATION APPEAL. THE VIOLATOR CAME BACK AS --.
THE CITATION NUMBER WRITTEN IS 19134 A PARKING VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE. PARKING ON THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE CITY IS ASKING A $50 FINE BE ASSESSED, ADMINISTRATION FEE OF $10 FOR TOTAL DUE OF $60.
CITY REQUESTS IF THE MAGISTRATE DOES FIND THE VIOLATION EXIST --. FAILURE TO PAY SUCH A FINE WILL RESULT IN THE CITATION BEING FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM. I HAVE PHOTOS TO INTRODUCE THE DATE AND TIME STAMPED (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> HAS THE RESPONDENT SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS?
>> I PLEAD NOT GUILTY. >> HAVE YOU SEEN THE
PHOTOGRAPHS? >> NO, I'VE NOT SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS. I HAVE SOME FOR YOU, TOO.
THIS IS THE BLACK PEARL PARKING RIGHT HERE.
>> SIR, RIGHT NOW -- >> THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS
DO YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION -- >> THAT'S MY VEHICLE.
YES, MA'AM. >> SO YOU ARE AGREEING THEY ARE
AUTHENTIC? >> I'M AGREEING -- THAT THEY ACCURATELY DEPICT WHAT THEY ARE SHOWING?
THAT'S A QUESTION. >> THE PICTURE IS CORRECT BUT
THE LOCATION IS INCORRECT. >> OKAY, YOU CAN ARGUE LATER.
JUST WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THEY ARE AN ACCURATE PICTURE OR NOT.
>> IT'S AN ACCURATE PICTURE. YES, MA'AM.
>> OKAY. >> LOTS OF GOOD PICTURES!
>> YOU ALSO, SIR, THIS IS AN APPEAL.
DO YOU WISH THE APPEAL THAT YOU FILLED OUT, THAT PAPER, DO YOU WISH US TO MOVE THAT IN AS A PIECE OF EVIDENCE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. EXCEPT THIS TIME, THE CITY WILL MOVE IN AS COMPOSITE EXHIBIT 1 THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
AND RESPONDENT'S EXHIBIT 1, HIS APPEAL PAPERWORK.
>> THANK YOU. IT WILL BE ADMITTED AS SUCH.
ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NO, YOUR HONOR.
>> SIR, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> ALKEVIADES STAMATIS. >> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THESE
ALLEGATIONS? >> DO I PLEAD NOT GUILTY?
>> I CAN GIVE YOU ADVICE. I CAN'T GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE.
>> YEAH, I'M PLEADING NOT GUILTY.
>> BASICALLY IT'S A BLACK PEARL BOAT RAMP IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT? AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE BOAT RAMPS IN THE FORT PIERCE AREA? AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, THERE IS ONE BOAT RAMP THAT IS CLOSE, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST BOAT RAMPS.
ON ANY GIVEN WEEKEND DAY, SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, IF THE WEATHER ISBEAUTIFUL, THE BOAT RAMPS ARE ABSOLUTELY CONGESTED . MAJOR TRAFFIC.
AT THIS PARTICULAR PLACE WHERE I GOT WRITTEN THE CITATION? IF YOU LOOK DIRECTLY EAST BEHIND ME IS WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PARK. BUT THE RESTAURANT IS LOCATED RIGHT THERE. THE PEOPLE GO THERE TO EAT AND THEY TAKE UP ALL THE PARKING PLACES WHERE THE BOATS ARE SUPPOSED TO PARK. I MEAN, THE TRAILERS AND TRUCKS ARE SUPPOSED TO PARK. SO MY ARGUMENT IS, NUMBER 1 IS I'M NOT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. I'M ON THE GRASS.
I'M NOT IN THE ROAD BLOCKING ANY CARS.
MY VEHICLE IS NOT BLOCKING ANY TRAFFIC.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT'S NOT A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
I'VE GOT MULTIPLE PICTURES OF PEOPLE HAT PARK THERE ALL THE TIME. PARK THERE ALL THETIME BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING IN FORT PIERCE FOR BOATS , TRAILERS.
SO THAT'S MY ARGUMENT TO THE CASE.
I JUST THINK -- I'M NOT IN A RIGHT-OF-WAY, NUMBER 1. NUMBER 2, THERE'S 50 CARS IN BOAT PARKING PLACES THAT HAD NO CITATIONS ON THEM. SOME I PLEAD TO THE COURT IS I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GETTING A TICKET.
I THINK OFFICERS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A COUPLE HOURS AND WENT AROUND AND WROTE 50 OF THEM. INSTEAD OF JUST TARGETING MY
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>> I CAN HEAR. >> ANYTHING FURTHER?
I JUST BELIEVE I'M NOT PARKING IN A RIGHT-OF-WAY AND I BELIEVE I WAS NOT BLOCKING OR IMPEDING ANY TRAFFIC.
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I BELIEVE (NAME) PUT UP THE DEFINITION UNDER OUR COAT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IT'S IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 32-8.
IT STATES THAT THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY MEANS THE SURFACE, THE AIRSPACE ABOVE THE SURFACE, AND THE AREA BELOW THE SURFACE OF ANY PUBLIC STREET, HIGHWAY, ALLEY ROW, BOULEVARD, CONCOURSE, DRIVEWAY, FREEWAY, THOROUGHFARE, SIDEWALK BRIDGE, DONNA PARK, WATERWAY, DOCK, PUBLIC EASEMENT, PUBLIC WAY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY IN WHICH THE CITY HOLDS ANY KIND OF PROPERTY INTEREST OR OVER WHICH THE CITY EXERCISES ANY TYPE OF CONTROL AND MAY LAWFULLY GRANT ACCESS TO PURSUANT TO TUPOU APPLICABLE
LAW. >> THE BLACK PEARL SIGN SPECIFICALLY SAYS BOAT RAMP PARKING AREA OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. NO PARKING OTHER THAN USERS OF BOAT RAMP. OTHERS WILL BE TICKETED AND TOWED AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR OWNER.
HERE I AM IS A TAXPAYING CITIZEN, I SHOW UP, DROP MY BOAT OFF IN THE BOAT RAMP. I CAN'T PARK BECAUSE 12 A BUOYS IS TAKING UP 50 PARKING SPOTS AND I'M NOWHERE TO PARK MY TRAILER. SO ON A BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY THERE IS NO WHERE TO PARK IN FORT PIERCE.
THE CAUSEWAY IS STILL CLOSED SO YOU CAN GO TO THAT BOAT RAMP.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT BOAT RAMP HAS BEEN REPAIRED.
THAT'S A STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY. THE SIGN SAYS YOU WILL BE TOWED OR TICKETED. SO IF THE CITY WAS DOING THEIR JOB THEY WOULD'VE TOWED ALL THESE PEOPLE OUT OF MY WAY AND I WOULD'VE PARKED IN AN OFFICIAL PARKING SPOT.
>> (NAME) IS ALSO PULLING UP THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS WEBSITE TO SHOW THE PROPERTY LINES.> ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT ON YOUR
THAT'S NOT THE DAY OF THE EVENT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
WHEN I GOT THE TICKET. BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT WAS
>> BUT IT DOES SHOW WHAT I SPECIFICALLY SAID.
SELL THE CARS IN THE MIDDLE? EVERY ONE OF THEM SHOULD NOT BE THERE BECAUSE THAT IS TRUCK AND TRAILER PARKING.
WHEN YOU LAUNCH YOUR BOAT, YOU COME BACK AND PARKS RIGHT THERE. THE SIGN IS RIGHT OVER THERE UNDERNEATH THAT 15470? IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN, THAT'S WHEN I JUST READ TO YOU? THAT YOU WILL BE TOWED OR TICKETED IF YOU ARE PARKED IN THE BOAT AREA AND DON'T HAVE A
TRAILER. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, YOU MAY RECENTLY REMEMBER WE ADVISED YOU THAT THIS ENTIRE SECTION HERE WAS ACTUALLY RESTRIPED. IN THESE LUNG SPACES NOW HAVE DASHED WHITE LINES BETWEEN THE MIDDLE.
THEY HAVE CREATED A FLEX PARKING AREA.
SO THAT BOTH CARS AND TRAILERS CAN UTILIZE THIS SPACE.
>> AND I WOULD SAY THE SIGN NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND A NEW ONE PUT UP TO EXPLICITLY SAY THAT TO THE CITIZENS.
I DON'T KNOW EVERY STATUTE. I DON'T SIT AROUND AT HOME AND READ THE STATUTE AND EVERY POSSIBLE CITATION I COULD GET WHILE I'M LIVING IN THE CITY. I MEAN, I'M SURE NO ONE AS A REASONABLE PERSON SITS AROUND (LAUGHING).
IF I DON'T HAVE A SIGN TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE RULES AND WITH THE LAWS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SIGNED UP TO MOVE TO FORT PIERCE, THEY DON'T SEND ADHERE TO.
>> SIR, CAN I ASK YOU HOW YOU GOT YOUR VEHICLE UP TO THAT
POSITION? >> IF YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE -- GO BACK TO THE PICTURE YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY? I PULLED UP TO THE CURB RIGHT THERE AND PULLED AROUND THE CURB AND TO THE LEFT, UP ONTO THE SIDE.
I'VE ACTUALLY PARKED RIGHT THERE WITH THAT SPOT IS, TOO.
WHEN THERE'S 5500 VEHICLES THERE.
>> A WHY WOULD YOU GO UP UP OVER A CURB?
>> BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING BECAUSE VEHICLES ARE IN AREAS THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN TOWED AND TICKETED AND REMOVED SO I COULD PARK MY VEHICLE IN THE OFFICIAL PARKING SPOT.
>> SO YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD LEGALLY GO UP OVER A CURB ONTO
PROPERTY TO PARK? >> I HAD NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
>> THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU COULD THOUGHT YOU COULD LEGALLY --
>> ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S NO SIGN IN THAT AREA THAT SAYS PLEASE DO NOT PARK ON THE GRASS.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FORM, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
>> ANYTHING FURTHER? >> I'M JUST SAYING, YOU COULD GO BY THERE ANY DAY, ON A BEAUTIFUL, SUNNY DAY WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR BOATS.
AND YOU CAN PARK RIGHT WHERE I'M AT AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS.
IF YOU GO TO ANY BOAT RAMP IN FORT PIERCE OR ST. LUCIE
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COUNTY, ON BEAUTIFUL DAYS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE TO PARK ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS. SO I FEEL LIKE I WAS NOT ILLEGALLY PARKED. NOW IF I WOULD'VE LEFT IT SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I PAY MY TICKET AND I WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE TODAY. BUT I THINK I GOT SINGLED OUT.ACTUALLY, I WALKED AROUND AND LOOKED AT ALL THE OTHER TRUCKS WHO HAD NO TICKETS ON THEM. THEY WERE PARKED ON THE GRASS.
SO I'M ALL FOR FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY.
SO IF I'M GOING TO GET A TICKET AND HE GOT A TICKET? AND HE GOT A TICKET? HE GOT A TICKET? I WOULD PAY MY TICKET AND I WOULDN'T BE HERE.
>> ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NOT FROM THE CITY, MA'AM.
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. HOWEVER, BASED ON EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY IS PRESENTED, I FIND THAT A VIOLATION EXISTS AND THAT YOU ARE THE PARTY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION.
I WILL IMPOSE A FINE OF $50, AN ADMIN FEE OF $10, FOR A TOTAL DUE IS $60. THIS MUST BE PAID WITHIN 14 DAYS. FAILURE TO PAY COULD RESULT IN THIS TICKET BEING SENT OVER TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM, YOU CAN CONTEST THE MATTER AND YOU WILL RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.
>> AT THE MERCY OF THE COURT, I TOTALLY DISAGREE AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD DO ABOUT IT JOB OF PUTTING SIGNAGE UP IF I'M GOING TO GET TICKETS. AND NEXT ON MY PART, I WILL CALL AN OFFICER AND ASK HIM TO SHOW ME WHERE TO PARK.
[B. 23-165CE 130 South 13th Street Steven M. Castilla Charmaine Kirkland]
>> OUR NEXT CASE IS 23-165, 130 STEPHEN (NAME).
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. (NAME). >> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING. CASE NUMBER 23-165, ADDRESS 130 S. 13TH STREET. CASE INITIATED JANUARY 10, 202 . OWNER STEPHEN CASTILLA STOP VIOLATIONS IPMC 304.12 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT.
IPMC 304.5 FOUNDATION WALLS, IPMC 304.6, EXTERIOR WALLS.
SECTION 123-37, SUBSECTION 12, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE.
THE CITY CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WERE TO PRESSURE WASH AND PAINT EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE HOUSE, REPAIR THE SOFFIT OF THE HOUSE, AND REPAIR THE TRIM OF THE HOUSE.
THE CITY REQUESTS IF THE MAGISTRATE FINDS A VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATION BE GIVEN 10 DAYS TO COMPLY OR A FINE OF
$100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. >> THANK YOU.
SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATIONS?
>> SORRY, IF I MAY? I JUST WANTED TO SAY, DO WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS? AND HAS HE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE
THOSE? >> I CAN SEE THEM FROM HERE.
I DON'T DISPUTE THEM. >> ARE THEY FAIRLY AND
ACCURATELY -- --. >> ARE THEY MARKED?
>> ON THE GO AHEAD AND MARK THESE WHILE HE SPEAKS.
>> HOW DO YOU RESPOND? >> IT'S A JUNK HOUSE IS WHAT IT IS. BASICALLY, ME AND MY FAMILY BOUGHT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR NINE YEARS AGO.
RIGHT BEFORE MY SON WAS BORN. IT'S THE ONLY HOUSE MY SON HAS EVER LIVED IN. A VERY NARROW HOUSE AT THE CORNER OF 13TH AND BOSTON. A TINY YARD.
THE HOUSE IN QUESTION, 130, WAS A DRUG HOUSE WHEN I MOVED IN.
WE HAD MANY ISSUES, MANY RAIDS. THE OWNER WAS SENT TO PRISON.
WHEN HE GOT OUT, THE HOUSE WAS GOING TO GO INTO FORECLOSURE AND I KNEW THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD LIVE WITH ANYTHING MORE LIKE THAT.SO I TALKED TO HIM. I PLEADED WITH HIM, AND HE DID A QUITCLAIM DEED WITH ME. AND WITH A PROBATE ATTORNEY AND PAYING BACK TAXES, I WAS ABLE TO BUY THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN.
I'M NOT A RICH MAN. I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY SO THAT MY SON WOULD HAVE A YARD TO PLAY IN.
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NOW IN THE TWO OR THREE YEARS SINCE I HAVE MANAGED TO PULL IT OFF, INSURANCE HAS GONE UP. SO NOW MY MORTGAGE IS DOUBLED.ALL THE MONEY WE PUT ASIDE TO EITHER FIX IT HAS BEEN EATEN UP STOP I ACTUALLY TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO ABOUT JUST TEARING IT DOWN. THEY SAID THAT WOULD FIX OUR PROBLEM. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WERE.
BUT WITH RENT DOUBLING EVERYWHERE, WE KIND OF GOT THE IDEA TO TRY TO FIX IT TO MOVE MY MOM IN.
THAT WAY SHE COULD LIVE NEXT DOOR TO HER GRANDSON.
SHE IS 70, THE RENT IS KILLING HER.
AGAIN, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY, I CAN'T GET A LOAN TO FIX IT. CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO FIX IT.
SO WE'RE BACK TO WANTING TO TEAR IT DOWN.
I'M OKAY WITH TEARING IT DOWN. I'M OKAY WITH GETTING A DEMOLITION PERMIT AND JUST WIPING OUR HANDS OF THIS NASTY PIECE OF BUSINESS. THE CONTRACTOR I BROUGHT IN -- THE TWO CONTRACTORS I BROUGHT IN BOTH SET BETWEEN 70 AND 90,000 JUST TO GET IT UP TO CODE.
IT NEEDS EVERYTHING. EVEN THEN, IT IS SUCH A TERMITE-WRITTEN HOUSE. IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
I TALKED TO A FIREFIGHTER FRIEND OF MINE ABOUT TALKING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT PRACTICING BURNING IT DOWN.
IT'S TOO CLOSE TO MY HOUSE, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THE PROXIMITY. I'M ALL FOR GETTING RID OF THIS EYESORE. I FINANCIALLY I CAN'T DO IT.
WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING IS I GO INSIDE WITH THE SAW AND CUT OUT PIECES. A PUT THEM OUT THERE TO THE ROAD SO THE CLOCK CAN COME AND PICK THEM UP.
BUT MY PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT IS THAT EVERY TIME I MAKE A PILE BY 13TH STREET TO BE PICKED UP, THE CITY IS AMAZING.
THEY COME AROUND AND DO IT. I'M NOT COMPLAINING.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS ALL THE KIDS FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WALK BY THERE AND IT'S DANGEROUS. I DON'T WANT THEM GETTING HURT.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE SCRAPPERS. LESS HER SOUL, THEY HAVE TO MAKE MONEY. THEY'LL RUMMAGE THROUGH THE PILOT TO FIND ANYTHING. SO NOW I HAVE TWO DANGEROUS SITUATIONS COMING FROM THIS HORRIBLE HOUSE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM TEARING IT DOWN EXCEPT FINANCIALLY.
SO ONCE I GOT THE SUMMONS, I SAID WHAT CAN I BRING TO THE TABLE? I ASKED (NAME) F YOU'D BE SO KIND TO BRING OUT A ROLLOUT DUMPSTER.
THAT'S $400 OUT OF MY POCKET EVERY TIME.
I PARTIED ON THE MATH. IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT FOUR ROLLOUT DUMPSTERS BEFORE I CAN EVEN RENT THE EQUIPMENT TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THREE ROLLOUT DUMPSTERS. IT IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ROLLOUT DUMPSTERS OF DEBRIS TO GET THIS HOUSE DOWN.
I'LL TEAR DOWN MYSELF (LAUGHING).
ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU GUYS HELP ME GET THE DEBRIS OUT OF THERE? BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART I CAN AFFORD.
I WANT TO PULL MY PERMIT. THAT'S THE ONLY THING STOPPING ME FROM PULLING THE PERMIT UP TOTHIS POINT .
YOU HAVE TO START THE DEMOLITION RIGHT AWAY.
I CAN AFFORD A ROLLOUT DUMPSTER.
SO AGAIN, IF THE CITY WANTS TO PUT A ROLLOUT DUMPSTER IN MY PROPERTY WHERE I CAN CLOSE THE FENCE, KEEP PEOPLE FROM RUMMAGING THROUGH IT? I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TEAR THE HOUSE ON MYSELF. BECAUSE I JUST DON'T HAVE THE 10, 12, 15,000 TO PAY A COMPANY TO DO IT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY. IF I HAD THE MONEY, I DO SOMETHING ELSE. SO I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT THAT IT'S A TRASH HOLE. HELP ME HELP YOU GUYS! (LAUGHING) THAT'S ALL I WANT. THAT'S ALL HE CAN DO.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. THERE ARE LIENS THAT ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING ON THIS PROPERTY FOR A SEPARATE CASE THAT COVER VIOLATIONS 3 AND 4, THE EXTERIOR WALLS AND THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. SO THE CITY WOULD ONLY BE PROCEEDING ON THEFIRST TWO VIOLATIONS , (INDISCERNIBLE) PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, FOUNDATION WALLS, AND THE FIRST
TWO CORRECTIVEACTIONS . >> WOULD BE JUST THE FIRST TWO CORRECTIVEACTIONS? CORRECTLY .
>> IF I MAY? ONCE A PROBATE ATTORNEY WAS ABLE TO SEAL THE DEAL FOR ME, ONCE WE GOT EVERYTHING IN MY NAME, I DID IMMEDIATELY -- NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT I GOT A LETTER FROM YOU GUYS SAYING THAT THE LIENS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE.
AND I GOT UP TO LIKE $140,000. THAT'S RIGHT INHERITED WITH THE PROPERTY. THAT'S WHEN I CALLED AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT PERHAPS DEMOLITION.
THEY WERE LIKE YEAH, THAT WOULD FIX YOUR PROBLEM.
AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT ON IT.
AND AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO. IF YOU ALL COULD HELP ME.
>> ONE THING I COULD TELL YOU IS THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT HERE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU? I DON'T KNOW.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING OUT THERE THEY CAN USE TO ASSIST YOU IN WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO. SO WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED, WE CAN GET THE PHONE NUMBER TO THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. XML FOR ANY KIND OF HELP.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I'VE TRIED TO GO ROUTES OVER THE YEARS.
BUT BECAUSE I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB, YOU KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY
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DIFFERENT THINGS. I GET THAT.SO AGAIN, A LITTLE HELP ALONG THIS WAY, WHATEVER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. BUT I AM HERE TO COMPLY.
I WANT THE EYESORE GONE TOO. I HATE IT.
I HATED IT SINCE I BOUGHT THE PLACE NEXT DOOR NINE YEARS AGO.
WHAT THAT PLACE IS DEMOLISHED, I'M ONLY TOO HAPPY TO CHANGE THE LINES SO THAT WAY THE HOUSE MY SON IS GROWING UP IN, THAT HAS THIS MUCH OF A SLIVER OF PROPERTY, I'LL ADD TO IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WORKING TO MAKE THIS A HECKUVA PIECE OF PROPERTY. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH ANY OF THAT. I LIVED THERE.E USE IT.
NOT TRYING TO SELL IT. NOTHING.
WHOEVER CAN HELP ME? HEY, ROCK ON, MAN.
I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. MY SON GOES TO SAINT ANASTASIA.
HE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE PRE-K. WE'RE HERE.
WE LIVED AT 13TH STREET FOREVER.
THE POLICE KNOW ME BECAUSE I HELPED CLEAN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD UP. I'M THE ONE CALLED FOUR TIMES A WEEK PUSHING (INDISCERNIBLE) OUT OF THERE.
I DID THAT. NOW I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GET RID OF THIS EYESORE. SO YES, PLEASE.
ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE HELP ME?
LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. >> THE ONLY CORRECTIVE ACTION WE ARE LOOKING AT IS 1 AND 2? RIGHT NOW?
OKAY. >> ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE THE FOUNDATION WALLS ARE GOING TO BE (INDISCERNIBLE) PAINTING.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY JUST ITEM 1.
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) PROTECTIVE TREATMENT IN FOUNDATION WALLS.
BECAUSE EXTERIOR WALLS ADDRESS THE SOFFIT AND TRIM.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALL THE TRIM UP TOP IS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. NOW THESE ARE RECENT PICTURES, I CAN TELL YOU. BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OVERHANG.
SEPARATE THERE. THERE WAS AN OVERHANG BEHIND THE FENCE. YES.
CORRECT. AND THAT WAS HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT WAS CAVING IN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS -- I GOT THAT OUT OF THERE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I HAVE BEEN DOING ALONG THE WAY BY MYSELF (LAUGHING).
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.
PROPERTY? >> WELL, IT STARTED OFF WITH THE QUITCLAIM DEED WITH THE FELLA WHO OWNED IT.
IT WAS THE SON WHO QUITCLAIMED IT OVER TO ME.
BECAUSE OF HIS GOING INTO FORECLOSURE.
AT THE HOUSE WAS IN HIS DECEASED FATHER'S NAME STILL AND THEY HAD JUST BEEN MAKING THE PAYMENTS FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. THAT'S WHEN I HAD TO GET A PROBATE ATTORNEY IN TOWN. HE HELP ME GET ALL THE SIGNATURES OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
ONCE EVERYBODY AGREED AND EVERYTHING WAS COOL, THEN WE WENT THROUGH PAYING THE TAXES STOP AND THEN I SATISFIED WITH THE BANK ON EVERYTHING. SO AGAIN, THAT'S HOW I BUY THE PROPERTY. IT WAS A WEIRD, HEAVY ROAD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IN THE MEANWHILE, WE HAD SQUATTERS LIVING IN THERE WITH THE GENERATOR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DEMOLISHED EVERYTHING INSIDE THE HOUSE. THE SWAT TEAM HAS BEEN THERE A HANDFUL OF TIMES OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S BEEN A HECKUVA RIDE! I'VE HAD THE SQUATTERS, THEY PULLED KNIVES ON ME. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M TRYING TO RAISE MY SON THERE.
POINT IS THIS HAS BEEN A LONG, HARD ROAD.
I'M NOT LIVING OVER BY THE BEACH.
NO. I LIVE RIGHT THERE, IN THE BACK. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO RAISE OUR SON. SO AGAIN, THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT CAN HELP ME, HE HELP? I'LL TAKE IT.
I'M NOT HERE TO BATTLE. I'M JUST HERE TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP ME MAKE THIS WORK.
>> YOU GOT A NOTICE FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT THE PROPERTY WAS IN VIOLATION OF PARTICULAR COURT OF ORDINANCE,
I BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND I'VE TRIED.
I CAN'T PULL THE PERMIT FOR DEMOLITION UNTIL I ACTUALLY START THE PERMIT. I CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL I HAVE A ROLLOUT DUMPSTER. SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE FINANCE THAT HOLDS ME UP FROM COMPLYING.
BECAUSE IF IT WERE UP TO ME? TEAR IT DOWN.
THE TERMITES HAVE DONE SO MUCH DAMAGE TO IT, I CAN STAND ON THE INSIDE AND ALMOST PUSH A FINGER INTO THE WALL TO THE OUTSIDE. THE HOUSE IS NOT WORTH SAVING.
IT'S JUST NOT. THAT'S WHY EXPLAINED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. I PREFER TO SEE IT PUSHED IN AT THIS POINT. WE CONTEMPLATED FIXING IT.
BUT THE PRICE IS JUST TOO STEEP TO FIX IT.
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>> ANYTHING FURTHER, SIR? >> NO, MA'AM.
>> I'VE TAKEN CONSIDERATION OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE HOUSE.
I WANT TO BE AS CLEAR AS I CAN BE.
WHATEVER REASON YOU BOUGHT THIS HOUSE FOR, WITH ALL YOUR GOOD INTENTIONS, YOU BOUGHT THE PROBLEMS ALSO WITH THE HOUSE.
>> AND AS THE OWNER, YOU HAVE SAID RESPONSIBILITIES.
I DO FIND A VIOLATION EXISTS, DESPITE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR GOOD INTENTIONS, A VIOLATION EXISTS.
THE CITY IS ASKING FOR 10 DAYS TO COMPLY.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE THAN THAT.
BUT THE HOUSE IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SAID IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY WHILE I'VE BEEN HERE AT ALL.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SHAKE THAT. I KNOW I INHERITED EVERY ISSUE WITH IT. I KNEW THAT GOING INTO IT.
AND AGAIN, FINANCIALLY IS THE ONLY THING HOLDING ME BACK.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING HOLDING ME FROM COMPLYING IS MY FINANCES. THAT'S IT TRUST ME, I'M NOT HERE TO BATTLE IT .
IT IS MY PROBLEM. I DO IT FROM DAY ONE WILL STOP MY ONLY REASON IS FINANCE. IF YOU COULD GIVE ME EXTRA TIME, I'D BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU
NEED? >> HONESTLY, I -- I KNOW THERE WOULD BE THE PERMIT TO PULL. AND SO, AGAIN, I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY COULD HELP ME WITH THE ROLLOUT DUMPSTER. SO REALLY, -- PUT IT THIS WAY.
FOR ME TO PHYSICALLY DO THE WORK? I COULD PROBABLY DO IT IN ABOUT 90 DAYS.
I STILL HAVE MY FULL-TIME JOB. SO EVERY WEEK AND I COULD DEVOTE MYSELF TO CUTTING IT UP AND GETTING IT INTO SAID DUMPSTERS. SO IF I WAS GIVEN 90 DAYS AND THE ABILITY TO GET IT DONE, I COULD GET IT DONE.
I'M NOT A LAZY PERSON. I CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> I BELIEVE MR. (NAME) MAY WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THEM OPTIONS RELATED TO FORECLOSURES, CONDEMNATIONS AND DEMOLITIONS. SO I THINK AT THIS TIME WE HAD ASKED TO CONTINUE THIS FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO HAPPEN.
ND BRING THIS BACK IN 60 DAYS?
30 DAYS? >> THE NEXT MEETING WOULD HAVE AN ANSWER. SOME 1/3.
>> I'M SORRY, IT WOULD BE MAY 17?
>> WE ARE REQUESTING ATTENUATION TO MAY 17.
>> I'LL CONTINUE THIS TO MAY 17.
I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU. I'VE DONE THIS JOB FOR A LONG TIME. I ALSO OWN PROPERTY.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I DON'T CARE WHAT THIS HOUSE WAS USED FOR BEFORE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
BUT I CARE ABOUT NOW IS THAT YOU ARE THE OWNER AND YOU ARE THE PARTY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPKEEP.
SO I'LL CONTINUE THIS UNTIL MAY 17, BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU GET WITH THE CITY.
BECAUSE THEY WORK WITH PEOPLE HERE.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO OWN PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF FOUR.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD A COUPLE WHO CAME HERE, AND THEY WERE JUST DRIVING. AND THEY WENT OVER ON THE BEACH AND SAW THIS BEAUTIFUL HOME STOP THEY BOUGHT IT.
BUT THEY BOUGHT THE PROBLEMS ALSO.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY.
YOU BUY THE PROBLEMS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSE.
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SO I'LL CONTINUE THIS TO THE 17.I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU GET WITH THE CITY.
THEY'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU AND NOT HURT YOU.
WE WANT TO KEEP THE CITY BEAUTIFUL.
BUT YOU HAVE A MAJOR RESPONSIBILITY IN BEING A
HOMEOWNER. >> I KNOW.> ALL RIGHT.
THIS WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 17.
TALK WITH THE CITY. IN ALL MY YEARS OF BEING HERE, THEY'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S LL I ASK. IF THEY WILL WORK WITH ME, I'LL
MAKE IT HAPPEN. >> WELL, YOU HAD TO BE REASONABLE, TOO. AND RESPONSIBLE.
>> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO STAY TO THE END OF THE HEARING SO I COULD HAVE A MINUTE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OPTIONS?
WE CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. >> (INDISCERNIBLE).
I'M GOOD FOR ANOTHER 45 MINUTES OR SO.
>> WHAT I'LL DO IS HAVE (NAME) MEET WITH YOU AND SCHEDULE AN
[A. LC Reduction 506-508 N 17th St Mary J Constant, Lloyd M Constant Peggy Arraiz]
APPOINTMENT.> GOOD LUCK, SIR.THANK YOU. NEXT CASE, MADAM CLERK.
>> OKAY. OUR NEXT CASE IS GOING TO BE A LOT CLEARING REDUCTION AT 506508 NORTH 17TH STREET
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> GOOD MORNING, SPECIAL
>> ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH -- >> AND MR. NOONAN IS WELL KNOWN. I STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
HIS WIFE IS HERE WITH HIM THIS MORNING.
GOOD MORNING TO YOU. >> OWNER PRESENT THIS THIS MORNING. I HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET WITH MR. MRS. CONSTANT A SHORT TIME AGO.
SO THIS IS A LOT CLEARING REDUCTION.
YOU DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL CASE NUMBER BECAUSE THERE WERE BEEN MULTIPLE CASE NUMBERS OVER THERE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT NORTH 17TH STREET, OWNED BY MARY J CONSTANT AND LLOYD CONSTANT. IT IS HERE FOR A REDUCTION REQUEST. I'M TO GO STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE SECTION HERE WITH THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE DUE.
THE CITY INCURRED FEES, WHICH IS FOR CITY VENDOR TO DO THE LOT CLEARING IS $4042.80. ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE $2701.15. THE INTEREST IS $8824.38.
THE PENALTIES ARE $1737.44. AND OF COURSE, THE HEARING FEE FOR TODAY'S HEARING IS $250. SO I HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET WITH THEM EARLIER. WE DISCUSSED THE FAST TRACK OPTIONS. THEY ALSO SPOKE WITH (NAME) OF THE KNEE REDEVELOPMENT TO POSSIBLY DO THAT.
THEY HAVE ASKED TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR A REDUCTION INSTEAD.
SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, APPLICANT REQUESTS NUMBERS ARE ZERO. WE DO NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE BACK IN TIME FOR TODAY'S HEARING ON THIS.
I HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM MY RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY ARE HEARING IT. SO WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS IS THE (INDISCERNIBLE), WHICH ARE THE COSTS INCURRED BY THE CITY VENDOR. THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS AS ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES FOR EACH OF THESE LOT CLAIMS. WE HAVE $100 FOR EACH CLAIM WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2700 OR MORE CASES THAT THE CITY IS PROCESS, FILE THE LIENS AND WHATNOT.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE FULL ADMINISTRATION CHARGES.
IN THE WAIVING OF INTEREST IN THE WAVING OF THE PENALTIES, PLUS THE HEARING FEE. SO THE TOTAL THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A $6993.97.
SO THE 4400 -- $4042.80 IS WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING, CORRECTLY.
>> PLUS THE 2701 15 AND 250. >> THAT'S WHAT STAFF'S
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RECOMMENDATION IS. >> MR. (NAME), HOW DO YOU RESPOND? YOU GUYS DO A LOT OF WORK HERE.
I CONCUR. HOWEVER, YOUR HONOR, FOR ME, IT'S NOT ALMOST -- IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY, AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE -- THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, I WAS TOLD, THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT.
BUT THE LOT CLEARING FOR THE 4280? I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TOO, IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, EITHER ELIMINATE THAT OR CUT THAT IN HALF, IFPOSSIBLE .
REASON BEING, THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING PURCHASING THE PROPERT . SINCE WE'VE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, YOUR STAFF CAN ATTEST THAT THE PLACE HAS BEEN IMMACULATE EVER SINCE. PRIOR TO THAT, THIS IS WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. YES, WE CAN PAY IT, BUT I'M ASKING WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM? WHICH, I WOULD DO IT. I CANNOT GO BEYOND YOU.
HOWEVER, I'M ASKING FOR A REDUCTION ON THAT TO AT LEAST
50 PERCENT, TO WORK WITH ME. >> HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH
THE CITY? >> NOT YET, BECAUSE THE CLOSENESS IN TIME. THE MOST LIKELY, THEY WOULD SA . I KNOW MS. (NAME) SAID THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, WHICH IS THE $2701 WOULD NOT BE EVEN BE
ABLE TO BE TOUCHED. >> I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE CITY INCURRED FEES, THOSE ARE THE HARD COSTS OF ACTUALLY DOING THE LOT CLEARING.
SO UNDER RULE 15 D, TWO OF THE RULES AND PROCEDURES OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE REDUCED AMOUNT PLUS INCLUDE THE HARD COSTS FOR SERVICES. THE REDUCED AMOUNT MUST INCLUDE THE $250 APPLICATION FEE. UNDER 2.3, YOU MAY WAIVE INTEREST AND PENALTIES IF IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO DO SO, WHICH (NAME) IS AGREEING TO.
UNDER 2.4, THE CONSIDERATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE FEES MUST INCLUDE ANY OUTSTANDING HARD COST OF THE CITY INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO RECORDING FEES. THOSE ARE THE HARD COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION FEES.
SO WE HAVE AGREED TO REDUCE IT AND CUT OUT AS MUCH AS LEGALLY YOU ARE PERMITTED TO UNDER THE RULES OF THE SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE. >> SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS -- IT'S ALREADY WHAT SHE SAID. THE ELIMINATION OF THE INTEREST IN THE PENALTY, WHICH HAS STILL BROUGHT US TO THE $6993.
>> THE CITY INCURRED FEES IS WHAT'S REALLY WHAT'S COSTING
>> YOU ARE THE JUDGE. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING.
>> WELL, NO. GOD CAN DO ANYTHING!
I CAN'T (LAUGHING). >> YOU ARE THE SPECIAL JUDGE TODAY.YOU COULD CUT THAT IN HALF.
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE ONLY WIGGLE ROOM YOU HAVE UNDER THE RULES FOR THE ADMIN FEES OR ANY THAT ARE CONSIDERED SOFT COSTS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE ADMIN FEES OR IF THOSE THAT YOUINCLUDED ARE ALL HIGH COSTS ADMIN FEES.
>> OF THE CITY INCURRED FEES AND THESE ARE THE RULES ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO FOLLOW. JUST TO UNDERSTAND.
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A SET OF RULES AND GUIDELINES THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE NOW HAS TO FOLLOW. JUST YOU UNDERSTAND THE RULES THAT WE ARE EXPLAINING TO HER. IN THOSE RULES, THE CITY-INCURRED FEES CANNOT BE WAIVE, REDUCE, OR AMENDED IN ANY WAY. THE CITY-INCURRED FEES HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY REDUCTION THAT IS REQUESTED.THE ADMINISTRATION CHARGES, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE -- THE ADMINISTRATION INTEREST AND PENALTIES FOR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DOES HAVE SOME LEEWAY ON.
AGAIN WE ARE AGREEING TO THE INTEREST AND PENALTIES TO BE WAIVE. THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES I REQUESTED IN FULL. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER, AS LONG AS IT DOES INCLUDE ANY HARD COSTS INVOLVED. CAN TELL YOU, THERE IS A MINIMUM OF 27 LOT CLEARING.
THERE'S A MINIMUM OF $10 RECORDING FEES FOR EACH OF THOSE. PLUS THERE IS A $10 RECORDING FEE FOR THE RELEASES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
SO THAT'S -- I'M DOING A ROUGH -- $500 RECORDING FEE.
A GUESSTIMATE WITH THAT. THAT LEAVES ABOUT $2200 THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH.
>> AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE REQUIREMENT UNDER RULE 15 D
-- --. >> NONE OF THESE LIENS ARE IN
THEIR NAME. >> HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE CITY
ABOUT THIS, MR. CONSTANT? >> NO, IF YOU GIVE ME TIME I'LL
TALK TO THEM. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THIS HAS TO BE DECIDED HERE. OUTSIDE OF THIS VENUE IT'S HIGHER. I CAN ONLY DO 50 PERCENT OF THE ADMIN COSTS AND (INDISCERNIBLE) PENALTIES, WHICH WAS OFFERED TO THEM. THEY SAID NO, THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME TO YOU INSTEAD. SO THIS IS THE ONLY VENUE THAT IT CAN BE WORKED OUT IN HIS WITH YOUR DECISION AT THIS POINT. WE DID MAKE THE OFFER OF WHAT I HAD THE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY TO DO AND THAT NUMBER IS HIGHER. IT'S AROUND $8000.
THAT'S WHY THEY CHOSE TO COME TO YOU TO ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL
REDUCTION. >> BASICALLY, MY HANDS ARE
DONE. IT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES THAT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WORK WITH THEM.
>> DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE IS SAYING?
>> YES, MA'AM. >> THE CITY-INCURRED FEES I CAN'T TOUCH. THE ADMIN FEES WE CAN
NEGOTIATE. >> YOU CAN WRITE ONE OUT TO ZERO. IN THE PENALTIES.
>> THE PENALTIES ARE ZERO. >> THE PENALTIES ARE ACTUALLY $1737.43. THE EDGES IS ACTUALLY $8824.38.
THE CITIES OFFERED RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES TO WIPE
THOSE OUT IN THEIR ENTIRETY. >> RIGHT.
>> SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE FOR
BASICALLY $4000 FOR RIGHT NOW? >> NO.
>> THAT'S JUST A QUESTION. >> NO, THE OFFER FROM THE
CITY'S $6993.95. >> THEY'VE WIPED OUT A LOT OF FEES HERE. THE CITY-INCURRED FEES, THEY MAINTAINED. AND THE ADMIN FEES THEY MAINTAINED. (COUGHING) EXCUSE ME.
THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT WAS $17,555.07.
THE ONLY THING I CAN TOUCH RIGHT NOW IS THE ADMIN FEE, IS
THAT RIGHT? >> ACTUALLY, IF THEY ARE NOT AGREEING TO THE AMOUNT WE ARE OFFERING, REALLY, IT'S UP TO YOU. THE ONE THING YOU CANNOT WAIVE IS THE 4482. AND THEN, APPROXIMATELY 500 IN ADMIN FEES. SO THE REST OF THOSE ON THE AMOUNT DUE WOULD BEUP TO YOU . SO THE 8800, THE 1700, AND THE 2700. SO ABOUT 2200 OF THAT.
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THERE IS ALSO IN HERE, I BELIEVE, FOR THE $250 FEE.YOU MAY -- IF I CAN FIND THIS. I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE WHERE YOU CAN WAIVE THAT WITH A CERTAIN FINDING.
>> THE ADMIN FEES CAN BE REDUCED OR WAIVED?
>> YOU CAN REDUCE THOSE EXCEPT FOR ANY HARD COSTS INCURRED, WHICH (NAME) SAID WOULD BE ABOUT $500.
SO YOU COULD REDUCE THOSE TWO APPROXIMATELY $2200.
SHE COULD WIPE OUT 2200 OF IT. AND WITH THE $250 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING FEE, IT SAYS --.
>> I WON'T WAIVE THAT. I'M NOT CONSIDERING THAT.
THE ONLY FEE I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE FEES WOULD BE THE CITY-INCURRED FEES, WHICH HARD COSTS, 4000 SOMETHING DOLLARS.
AND THEN, THE ADMIN FEES, WHICH IS 2701 DOLLARS.
MR. CONSTANT, YOU WERE CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. YOU'VE DONE THINGS TO BENEFIT THE CITY. I THINK MOST OF US WHO WORKED WITH THE CITY OR DEPARTMENT KNOW THAT.
HOW DID YOU GET THE PROPERTY? >> I PURCHASED IT FROM A PASTO . A CHURCH (INDISCERNIBLE) USED TO BE THERE. THEY BOUGHT IT TO BUILD, INITIALLY. YES.
>> AND YOU INHERITED -- >> MM-HMM.
>> -- THE PROBLEM, I SHOULD SAY? OKAY. I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, THIS CONSTANTS ARE WELL KNOWN IN THE CITY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO HELP PEOPLE. WE CAN'T WAIVE THE $4042.
THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE UNDER THE CURRENT CITY LAW.
WE CAN'T WAIVE THAT. IS THIS PASTOR STILL ALIVE?
>> YES. >> TELL ME HIS OR HER NAME.
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IF YOU WANT TO JOT DOWN THE NUMBER? THE CITY-INCURRED FEES PLUS THE $500 IN ADMIN FEES, THAT TOTAL --. PLUS THE 250 IS $4792.80.
>> HOW MUCH IS THAT TOTAL AGAIN?
>> $4792.80. >> THE ORIGINAL WAS $17,550 -- $17,555.77 WAS THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT WAS.
THE CITY IS NOW WILLING TO ACCEPT AN OFFER OF $4719, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE
>> $4792.82. >> THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE HARD COSTS THAT COULD NOT BE WAIVED.
JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE.> OH, OKAY.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> MR. CONSTANT, I'M CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH WIGGLE ROOM HERE.
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I WOULD BE WILLING TO REDUCE THIS TO THE $4792.82.>> $4792.80. >> THE STAFF WAS ORIGINALLY
RECOMMENDING $6993.95. >> YES.
>> SO THEY'RE WILLING TO REDUCE IT.
YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO DO THE $4792.80.
I CAN'T GO BELOW THAT, BASED ON THE LAW.
>> NOT EVEN WITH THE SPECIAL (INDISCERNIBLE)?
>> BECAUSE OF THE LAW, I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
>> BUT WE COULD GIVE YOU TIME FOR YOU TO PAY THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> IT'S WITH REMORSE THAT I ENTERED THIS ORDER.
BECAUSE I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE OR BY PROPERTY, YOU BUY ALL THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED
>> THIS WAS, ORIGINALLY, POSTED ALMOST $18,000.
AND NOW, WE ARE DOWN TO $4792.80.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LIMITED TO. IF I COULD DO MORE, I WOULD.
BUT THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW ME TO DO THAT.
>> UNDERSTOOD, MA'AM. >> I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU FROM WORKING WITH THE CITY AND TAKING CARE OF THESE PROPERTIES. I WANT YOU TO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK (LAUGHING). AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO DO GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR THAT. I KNOW OF THE GOOD DEEDS YOU'VE DONE. AND I KNOW YOU (INDISCERNIBLE) AS MOST OF US DO. BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE ON THE GREAT SHIP GOING UP THERE WHEN THE GOOD LORD CALLS, IF HE EVER CALLS.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISS CONSTANT.
>> HOW MUCH TIME TO PAY? >> HOW DO YOU WANT TO PAY IT? CAN WE EXTEND THIS A YEAR OR TWO?
>> WE ARE JUST GOING TO PAY IT OFF AND BE DONE.
>> OKAY. BECAUSE I COULD GIVE YOU 12 MONTHS TO PAY. AND IF IT'S NOT PAID IN 12 MONTHS, THEN IT WOULD REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT, WHICH IS $17,555.17.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> JUST SO THEY ARE AWARE, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THERE IS, UNDER THE RULES, 30 DAYS TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
BUT THAT DOES HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $250 FEE FOR THE APPEAL.> YOU CAN APPEAL IT AS YOU SAID.
I THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THIS.
BECAUSE I KNOW THE WORK Y'ALL DO.
BUT NEXT TIME, CHECK WITH THE CITY.
SEE WHAT LIENS OR WHATEVER ON THAT PROPERTY.
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING INTO. BUT I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOUR WIFE IN CHURCH. YOU WILL BE BLESSED! TRUST ME. IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, MR. CONSTANT, YOU CAN. I'M READY TO TAKE IT.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. >> I THINK YOU FOR THIS JUDGMENT, OR POTENTIAL JUDGMENT.
AND FOR THE WONDERFUL AND DILIGENT WORK.
THE CLARITY ON THEIR WORK. ESPECIALLY MISS (NAME).
>> YES. I HAVE SAT HERE FOR, I THINK, ABOUT 17 YEARS. I KNOW THE CITY WILL WORK WITH
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YOU. BECAUSE THEIR INTERESTS IS IN KEEPING THE PROPERTY, KEEPING THE CITY BEAUTIFUL.KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. AND HOUSING.
AND NOT TRYING TO RIP THEM OFF. SO --.
(LAUGHING) JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
AND WORK WITH THE CITY. THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
AND I BELIEVE MY MESSAGE WAS THE SAME ONE TO YOU.
WE TALKED YOU ALL THE TIME. OU COULD'VE CALLED US (LAUGHING). I THINK THEY'VE LEARNED THAT
JUST PLEASE TALK TO THE CITY. BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE TO HELP, NOT HURT. AND IF I CALL YOU, I WANT YOU
TO ANSWER THE PHONE (LAUGHING)! >> (NAME)'S GONNA PUT THAT INTO WRITING AND YOU'LL GET SOMETHING IN WRITING.
SHE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET IT. >> ALL RIGHT, THEN.
THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP, TOO.
[B. 96-6085 CE 909 N 13th St Love Center Regeneration Ministries and Fellowship Inc Peggy Arraiz]
QUICK SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IF YOU THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS HARD,WAIT TILL THE NEXT ONE. >> (SIGHING).
>> OUR NEXT CASE IS 96 6085, 909 NORTH 13TH STREET, LOVE
CENTER. >> THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK.
>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.
YOU SWORN IN THIS MORNING? >> NO.
>> OKAY. WE WERE HERE FOR THE SWEARING
IN AT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? >> YES.
SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HIM TO PRESENT THIS ONE AS WELL.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER 96 6085. THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REDUCTION REQUEST. THIS IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIE . NOT THE LOT CLAIMS YOU'VE DEALT WITH THE LAST TIME. THE CASE IS FROM 1996.
96 6/8 FIVE. ADDRESSES 909 NORTH (INDISCERNIBLE) STREET ON BY LOVE (INDISCERNIBLE).
THE CASE WAS INITIATED IN 1996 AND IS BEFORE YOU FOR COD ENFORCEMENT REDUCTION REQUEST. THE LIEN ITSELF WAS NOT FILED UNTIL 2010. WHICH IS WHY IT IS STILL A VALID AND ACTIVE LIEN BROUGHT BEFORE YOU FOR THE REDUCTION.
THIS HAS A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES THAN THE FIRST SET.
I'M SURE MS. (NAME) WILL READ THEM TO AS WE GO ALONG.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT WAS $25,500. THE RECORDING FEES OF $18.50 AND OF COURSE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING FEE OF $250.
BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE REDUCTION AMOUNT FOR THE FAST TRACK IS DIFFERENT THAN IF IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE $10,000 UP NOW.
AS I SAID, MS. HEDGES WILL REACH YOU THE FULL SET OF RULES THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS. I'M NOT HAD CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH MR. (NAME) PRIOR TO TODAY. WE DID THE ADMINISTRATION COST ESTIMATES. THIS IS AN ESTIMATE PAGE OF HOW MUCH TIME WAS PUT INTO IT. THE CASE STARTED IN 96.
IT WAS COMPLIED IN DECEMBER 1997.
THERE IS A VIOLATION HEARING FROM THE ORIGINAL HEARING.
THERE WAS A MASSEY HEARING. THE PRIOR OWNER DID REQUEST A REDUCTION REQUEST THAT ONE TIME.
IT WAS REDUCED BY THE REDUCED AMOUNT WAS NEVER PAID.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS REVERTED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT AND THE LIEN WAS FILED. SO THERE WAS A MASSEY HEARING AND NOW WE ARE HERE FOR THE LIEN REDUCTION.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS REDUCED TO BACK THEN?
>> BACK THEN? UNDER THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, THIS WAS BACK IN 2010, IT WAS REDUCED TO $250.
AND IT DID OT GET PAID.AND REVERTED BACK.
SO OUR ADMINISTRATION COSTS OF THE ESTIMATE INCLUDING THE $250 FEE IS $1735.25. THAT'S FOR YOUR REFERENCE TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS. AND THEN, MS. SARAH, IF YOU
WANTED TO READ ANY RULES? >> UNDER RULE 15 D 1, FOR LIENS IMPOSED PURSUANT TO -- YOU CANNOT REDUCE THE AMOUNT -- SORRY. YOU CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT
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IS IN AN AMOUNT NO LESS THAN THE AMOUNT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR PROCESSING THE CASE, PLUS THE $250 APPLICATION FEE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE $1735.25.I THINK MS. (NAME)'S RECOMMENDATION IS THE 10,000 --
>> IT'S THE FAST TRACK. >> IS THAT STILL YOUR
IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
>> SO THE FAST TRACK WHERE THAT COMES FROM, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS UNDER SECTION 15 B 2 WILL STOP THE AMOUNT SETTLEMENT (INDISCERNIBLE) WHICH IS ZONED COMMERCIAL IS $10,000 MORE TO BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO THAT'S WITH A $10,000
RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM. >> AND I'M BOUND BY THAT?
>> NO. YOU ARE BOUND BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, PLUS THE $250.
SO THE LOWEST YOU CAN GO IS $1735.25.
THE CITY RECOMMENDATION IS PURSUANT TO THE FAST TRACK AMOUNT FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WHICH IS 10,000.
>> NO, MA'AM. OTHER THAN THE FACT WE ALSO KNOW MR. (NAME) HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE -- WORK FOR THE CITY. BUT MY RECOMMENDATION STAYS CONSISTENT. I DON'T CHANGE IT BASED ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I MAINTAIN THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
HAS A ABILITY TO -- >> AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> (NAME).
>> HOWDY RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATIONS?
>> OKAY, TWO THINGS HAPPEN HERE.
A LIEN WAS PLACED IN REFERENCE TO THE GRAFFITI ON THE BUILDINGS IN OCTOBER, 1996. WE DID NOT OWN THE BUILDING UNTIL DECEMBER 26, 1996. SO THE LIEN WAS FILED AGAINST THE DIXONS. AND IT COMES UP 10 YEARS LATER, WELL, IN 201. BUT WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED.
WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS AT ALL.
I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2000. THIS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF THIS UNTIL I GOT THE NOTICE RECENTLY.
WE COULD'VE PAID IT. IT'S NOT THE ISSUE ABOUT THE 250. BUT WE WERE NEVER TOLD THERE WAS A LIEN ON THE MINISTRY PROPERTY THAT WAS REFERENCING PRIOR OWNERSHIP OF THE LOVE CENTER.
>> IT'S KIND OF LIKE I SAID BEFORE.
WHEN YOU BUY PROPERTY, YOU BUY ALL THE PROBLEMS.
>> I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS.OTHING HAS EVER COME UP.
WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT. >> STILL, THOUGH.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY IT, YOU BUY THE PROBLEMS.
>> WE DID TITLE INSURANCE. IT DID NOT SHOW.
>> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH THAT TITLE COMPANY (LAUGHING). YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IT EXISTED IF YOU USED THE TITLE COMPANY.
SERIOUSLY. I MEAN, I'M NOT PENALIZING YOU, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE FOUND THIS.
>> AND I'VE HAD TITLE WORK DONE ON IT IN THE LAST THREE, FOUR YEARS. IT NEVER SHOWED UP.
NEXT DID YOU USE THE SAME TITLE COMPANY?
>> NO. (INDISCERNIBLE) WITH SUN BANK.
THEY NORMALLY GO THROUGH EVERYTHING.
>> ACTUALLY, YOU CAN GO ONLINE, WHICH IS WHAT I TELL PEOPLE TO
DO FREQUENTLY. >> IT'S NOT SHOWING ONLINE
RIGHT NOW. >> IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A MERGER OVER THE PROPERTIES. I CAN'T DO THAT TYPE OF SEARCH, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A MERGER OF THE PROPERTIES.
LET HER TALK. >> THE TITLE COMPANY, THOUGH, SHOULD BE CHECKING THE PUBLIC RECORDS, RIGHT?
>> THEY SHOULD. >> WE HAVE RECOMMENDED TO INDIVIDUALS IN THE PAST IF YOU HAVE TITLE INSURANCE, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE TITLE COMPANY AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
LIEN. >> AND I TELL PEOPLE THAT ALL THE TIME. I DON'T DO PROPERTY, BUT I JUST TELL THEM, GO ON THE CLERKS SCREEN AND LOOK UP OR CALL
THEM. >> WE HAVE RECOMMENDED TO
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PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PAST TO CONTACT THE TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY AND FIND OUT WHY THEY DIDN'T -- BECAUSE THEY AREULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE. >> THEY REALLY ARE.
>> WHAT THEY DID, THEY PUT A LIEN ON ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THE MINISTRY OWED. THAT'S WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS.
THAT WAS DONE BY LORENZO WILLIAMS. IT HAD NO LIENS ON IT. IT COME BACK -- IT JUST SURFACED, YOU KNOW? AND THEN, WE STARTED OUR SCHOOL FOUR YEARS AGO. THAT'S WHEN THEY ASKED US TO MERGE ALL THE PROPERTIES TOGETHER.WE NEVER SAW ANY LIENS OR ANYTHING. BECAUSE I'VE HAD ATTORNEYS INVOLVED, TITLE COMPANIES INVOLVED.
>> I DON'T DO REAL ESTATE. I REALLY DON'T. DO TELL PEOPLE, GO ONLINE, LOOK IT UP. CALL SOMEBODY.
>> WE DID THAT. >> BECAUSE -- (SIGHING) THINGS LIKE THIS FREQUENTLY HAPPEN. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IT IS THE CURRENT LANDOWNER THAT EVENTUALLY BEARS THE BRUNT OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO, -- I DON'T GIVE ADVICE FROM HERE. BUT MAYBE YOU WANT TO CHECK WITH WHOEVER WAS TRYING TO WORK FOR YOU? AND THAT'S WHY THIS WASN'T DISCOVERED.
THAT'S AS FAR AS I CAN GO AND I'M STRETCHING IT, EVEN WITH THAT. AS AN ATTORNEY.
I HAD A CASE THE OTHER DAY I GOT RESOLVED.
AND THEN ANOTHER THING POPPED UP WITH THE CASE.HE PERSON CALLED MEAND I SAID I DON'T DO THAT ASPECT .
BUT YOU DO HAVE AN ISSUE. YOU NEED TO CALL AN ATTORNEY WHO DOES THAT. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.
>> BUT WE HAVE REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS ON THE BOARD.
MARGARET BENSON. >> MARGARET IS DEAD.
>> I'M SAYING BACK WHEN THIS WAS DONE.NAME) AND MARGARET BENSON WERE OUR ATTORNEYS FOR THE LOVE CENTER.
THEY LOOKED AT EVERYTHING AND DIDN'T SEE IT.
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I KNOW THIS IS A CONFUSING ISSUE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE.
THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
>> MM-HMM. >> AND THE LIEN WAS ACTUALLY FILED WHEN MR. BAPTISTE WAS THE OWNER.
AND MR. BAPTISTE BY JOHN BAPTISTE WAS THE ONE THAT DID THE REDUCTION REQUEST BACK IN 2010, OR IT WAS IN 2009.
AND DUE TO NONPAYMENT, IT WAS FILED AS A LIEN.
PRIOR TO THAT, EVERYTHING WAS DOROTHY MONK.
SO THAT'S WHO OWN THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO THERE WAS A DEMOLITION THAT HAPPENED UNDER MS. DOROTHY MONK AND A REDUCTION REQUEST UNDER MR. BAPTISTE.
BUT IT'S JUST AS LITTLE SQUARE RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS LOT 18, THAT WE AREDISCUSSING. AND WHEN EVERYTHING BECAME COMBINED IS HOW THIS NOW, THE LIEN NOW LINKED UP WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. SO IT USED TO BE ATTACHED JUST TO THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND WHEN THEY ALL GOT COMBINED, IT ALL GOT TIED IN TOGETHER.
>> THATS NOT OUR PROPERTY. >> IT SHOWS IT IS NOW.
>> WE BOUGHT IT LATER. DURING ALL THIS TIME, THAT WAS
NOT PROPERTY. >> IT WASN'T YOUR PROPERTY WHILE THIS HAPPENED. I UNDERSTAND.IF MR. BAPTISTE HAD COME FORWARD (INDISCERNIBLE) I WOULD SAY NO, YORTY HAD ONE. WE ARE ALLOWING THE SECOND REQUEST BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW OWNER.
>> CANNOT EXPLAIN SOMETHING? >> HOLD ON.
LET HER FINISH. >> THAT'S JUST IT.
WHEN YOU ASSUMED OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY AND COMBINED IT ALL TOGETHER, YOU ASSUMED OWNERSHIP OF THE LIENS THAT WERE ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHY IT IS NOW ALL
TIED TOGETHER. >> AND THAT'S LAW.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I GIVE PEOPLE ADVICE ON BUYING PROPERTY. MAKE SURE YOU GET SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND TELL YOU WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT PROPERTY IS.
BECAUSE YOU BY NOT ONLY THE PROPERTY, YOU BUY ALL THE PROBLEMS. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
AND YOUR AMOUNT -- -- THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
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>> THAT I DON'T HAVE. >> HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH
THE CITY WE. >> NO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.
THE $10,000 AS MY LIMIT OUTSIDE OF THIS COURTROOM.
THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY I HAVE IS TO GO TO $10,000. ANYTHING LESS THAN $10,000 HAS
TO COME FROM YOU. >> SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR,
MR. BRYANT? >> (SIGHING) WELL, (LAUGHING) I AM A PART OF THE CITY.HE CITY HELP ME BUILD THE FACILITY. I GAVE MY WHOLE LIFE TO THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW? THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
AND, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS TIME I TOOK LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY.
GOT DOWN IN THE TRENCHES AND WORKED.
DID EVERYTHING I COULD. AS FOR THE CITY GAVE US THE MONEY TO BUILD THE LOVE CENTER. BECAUSE OF OUR WORK IN THE TRENCHES. SO, THIS IS SOMETHING, A MATTER FACT, WHEN THE GRAFFITI WAS ON THE BUILDING, WE OFFER THE PAINT THE BUILDING FOR FREE BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF OUR PROPERTY. THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING WOULDN'T SELL IT TO US AND WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO TOUCH THE BUILDING. THEN LATER, MR. BAPTISTE BOUGHT IT FROM HIS MONK AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO BUY IT.
THE BUILDING WAS HEARTY GONE AND WE JUST BOUGHT THE LAND.
FOR MORE THAN WHAT IT WAS WORTH SO WE COULD HAVE THE RECOVERY MINISTRY THERE TO HELPTHESE GUYS , YOU KNOW, AND DO WHAT WE DID. SO WE INHERITED THIS, ATTORNEYS WHO SPECIALIZE IN REAL ESTATE OVERLOOK THE LIENS.
>> YOU SAID YOU HAD TO ATTORNEYS.
AND IF THEY MISSED IT -- I'M NOT CRITICIZING THEM, BUT SOMETHING WENT WRONG. IF THEY SPECIALIZE IN REAL ESTATE, THEY KNOW THESE PROBLEMS POP UP.
>> IT NEVER SHOWED UP AT THE TIME.
>> I'M SORRY. I DON'T BUY THAT.
>> BUT THE BANKS FINANCED IT. >> I'M SORRY, I DON'T BUY THAT.
BECAUSE HERE YOU STAND. THERE'S NOBODY STANDING HERE WITH YOU. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS HEARING.
WE DO HAVE A LARGE LISTENING AUDIENCE.
YOU MAKE SURE IF YOU ARE BUYING PROPERTY -- YOU CAN GO ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE AND LOOK THE STUFF UP FOR YOURSELF. IF YOU GET A LAWYER, MAKE SURE HE OR SHE IS DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, THEY ARE HERE LIKE YOU AND MR. CONSTANT.
YOU REALLY WANT TO ASK THEM, HOW MANY OF THESE CASES HAVE YOU DONE? YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY I CAN DO THIS DON'T MEAN THEY SPECIALIZE IN IT.
MY SPECIALTY HAS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS BE CRIMINAL DEFENSE. I REMEMBER SAYING TO MY GRANDMA ONE DAY, I HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD MURDER CASE IN A WHILE.
AND SHE LOOKED AT ME. I SAID I DON'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT, GRANDMA. I SHOULD HAVE SAID ATTEMPTED MURDER. THEY DIDN'T DIE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IS THE POINT I'M MAKING.
I'M A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED. WITH THESE TWO CASES.
THE LAST ONE AND THIS ONE. BECAUSE HE RELIED ON PEOPLE WHO
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JUST DIDN'T DELIVER FOR YOU. AND HERE YOU STAND.IN THE CITY HAS REDUCE IT AS MUCH AS THEY COULD TO THE
$10,250. >> LEGALLY, LIKE I SAID, LEGALLY YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE $1700.35.
THAT'S YOUR WIGGLE ROOM. AGAIN, HE HAS THE OPTION AS WELL IF HE DOES NOT LIKE THE AMOUNT YOU ORDER, HE CAN APPEAL THAT TO THE FULL COMMISSION. BUT THAT DOES HAVE A $250 FEE
ON IT FOR THAT HEARING AS WELL. >> THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR REDUCTION DONE IN APRIL 2023. THAT'S THIS YEAR.HEN DID YOU
FIND OUT ABOUT THIS AMOUNT MONEY?>> JUST A FEW WEEKS
>> THE TITLE COMPANY, A PIECE OF PROPERTY WE OWN AROUND THE CORNER, THE TITLE COMPANY WAS LOOKING AT THE TITLE POLICY AND THEY SAID THERE IS A LIEN ON YOUR PROPERTY.
IT HAD TO DO WITH (INDISCERNIBLE) DIXON IS ALL IT SAID. SO THAT'S WHEN WE NOTIFIED YOUR
>> SO THE LIEN WAS THERE WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY?
>> NO, NO. A PIECE OF PROPERTY WE OWN ELSEWHERE, THAT PROPERTY WAS DONATED TO THE MINISTRY BY LORENZO WILLIAMS. SO IT POPPED UP ON THAT PROPERTY AND WE DISCOVERED IT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
THAT'S WHEN WE NOTIFIED THE CITY.
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I BELIEVE WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO IS A SPREADING LIEN, WORD SPREADS TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES
OWNED IN THE COUNTY. >> RIGHT.
SO THE TITLE COMPANY NOTIFIED US THERE WAS A LIEN ON IT.
WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO ALL ALONG.
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> ANY PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY
>> THE PROPERTY THAT THE LIEN COMPANY -- WHEN DID THEY NOTIFY YOU THAT THERE WAS A LIEN ON THIS PROPERTY?
>> TWO WEEKS AGO. WHENEVER WE CALLED AND YOU ALL JUST GO TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE LIEN.
>> AND YOU HAD PURCHASED ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY?
>> IT WAS DONATED. IT WAS DONATED TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, BUT WE BECAME KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE LIEN TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO. THEN WE CALLED THE CITY.
TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE LIEN.
THAT'S WHEN WE DISCOVERED THAT THE LIEN IS ON THE MAIN
PROPERTY. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU JUST -- THAT WAS JUST DONATED TO YOU, IS IT
ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY? >> NO, IT'S ABOUT TWO BLOCKS
AWAY, ON AVENUE G. >> MADAM CLERK, ON THE LAST PROPERTY, THE LAST CASE WE DID, WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT I ORDERED? DO YOU HAVE THAT?
>> I HAVE $4792.80 TO BE PAID IN 12 MONTHS.
>> NO PROBLEM. >> AND WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST FOR
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THIS, MR. BRYANT? >> WHAT IS MY REQUEST? WELL, THE 1735, IF WE HAD TO PAY IT, I WANT TO PAY THE
MINIMUM AMOUNT WE HAD TO PAY. >> WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN YOU COULD PAY? THE 1735 25 IS THE BEST YOU
>> YOU REALIZE YOUR TOTAL DUE WAS 25,768 $0.50.
THE CASE STARTED IN 1996. IT'S MORE THAN 20 YEARS OLD.
I'M SORRY, FOLKS. I'M TRYING TO WORK THIS --.
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THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING $10,250.I AM REDUCE THIS TO $5000. AND BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE CASE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THE $5000 WILL INCLUDE A $250 HEARING FEE AND ADDITIONAL COST.I'LL REDUCE IT TO $5000. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PAY THAT? YOU CAN DO MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS.
>> SORRY, THE APPEAL WOULD GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
>> CITY COMMISSION. YOU CAN APPEAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION. I KNOW THE CITY LIKES WHAT YOU ARE DOING, SO THEY MAY REDUCE IT EVEN FURTHER.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPEAL IT TO THEM.
>> HOW MUCH TIME TO PAY, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE? DID YOU WANT TO DO A YEAR LIKE THE LAST ONE? ASK HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO PAY, MR. BRYANT?
>> WHATEVER -- THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME I CAN GET.
>> CAN YOU DO 24 MONTHS? >> YES.
>> OKAY. I DON'T DO LEGAL ADVICE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE PROPERTY, YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THESE POPLE ARE DOING A THOROUGH SEARCH.
THE PROPERTY. AND YOURSELF CAN GO ONLINE AND LOOK THINGS UP. I THINK I TOLD SOMEBODY THIS YESTERDAY, GO ONLINE. LOOK IT UP.
>> YES. >> AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'M DOING THIS IS THE AGE OF THE CASE, IT'S A 1996 CASE.
YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL -- I MEAN, GO UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
[B. 23-0224 PK 100 N Indian River Dr Jacqueline Yannes, PV Holding Corp Charmaine Kirkland]
>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.
>> HAVE A GOOD DAY, SIR.> OUR NEXT CASES 23-224 100 NORTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, JACQUELINE YANNES AND PV HOLDING CORPORATION THIS IS ACTUALLY A TELEPHONIC CITATION APPEAL.
GO AHEAD AND CALL HER. >> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PRESIDING OVER THE CASES. YOU WILL SOON HEAR FROM MS. KINCAID WHO WILL READ THE VIOLATION INTO THE RECORD.
>> OKAY. >> CASE NUMBER 23-224 IS A PARKING CITATION APPEAL, WHICH OCCURRED AT THE 100 BLOCK ON NORTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. TO JACQUELINE YANNES.
CASE INITIATED JANUARY 28, 2023.
FOR CITATION NUMBER 18 75, SECTION 34- 30 1P HANDICAP.
FIND $250 AND (INDISCERNIBLE) WHICH IS A TOTAL DUE OF $260.
THE CITY REQUESTS IF THE MET W --.
FAILURE TO PAY SUCH FINE WILL RESULT IN THE CITATION BEING FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM.
I HAVE PHOTOS TO DEPICT THE TIME AND DATE OF THE VIOLATION.
>> THE CITY WILL MOVE THOSE IN AS COMPOSITE EXHIBIT 1.
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EXHIBIT 1 ON HER BEHALF.YES. I WAS VISITING FLORIDA, AND I ADMIT I'M WRONG, FIRST OF ALL. BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS I WAS AT A FAIR AND PEOPLE WERE PARKED ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY WERE ON THE GRASS. SOMEBODY HAD PULLED OUT OF THAT SPOT.AYBE THEY GOT A TICKET? I DON'T KNOW.
AND I AUTOMATICALLY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY FOR ME TO PULL IN.
THAT'S WHY PUT IN. BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS PARKED ON TOP OF EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG FEAR THAT HAPPENS ON THAT DAY. I WAS VISITING AND I'M LIKE WELL SOMEONE PARKED THERE, I GUESS IT'S OKAY.
HINDSIGHT, I KNOW IT'S WRONG. MY BROTHER HAS CEREBRAL PALSY AND I'M SURE HE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THE CAR.
I'M JUST SAYING I'VE NEVER GOTTEN A TICKET.
I WAS CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT. AND I THOUGHT OF SOMEONE PULLED OUT, I COULD POINT. AND I REALIZE THAT WAS WRONG.
BUT SINCE IT'S MY FIRST OFFENSE AND I HAVE NO TICKETS, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I COULD PAY A LESSER FIND?
>> DID YOU CONTACT THE CITY AND SAY HEY, LOOK, I HAVE A TICKET, AND THEN I HAVE THIS -- DID YOU DO THAT?
>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AS PART OF HER APPEAL, SHE DID MAKE THE OFFER OF A REDUCED FINE WHICH WAS REVIEWED BY BOTH THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND MYSELF. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE IN THE PHOTOS, IT'S FAIRLY CLEARLY INSIDE THE BLUE LINES.
THE BLUE LINES ARE UNIVERSAL SIGN OF THE HANDICAP SITE.
BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BLUE LINES IT'S A HANDICAP CITATION.
WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD -- WE DENIED HER REQUEST TO REDUCE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPEAL.
AND YOU ARE AGAIN, YOUR EXCUSE, REASON TO PARK WHERE YOU
PARKED? >> I WAS VISITING SOUTH FLORIDA. AND AGAIN, I KNOW I'M WRONG.
I JUST GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE EXCITEMENT.
WE WERE AT THE FAIR. PEOPLE WERE PARKING ALL OVER
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THE GRASS. I THOUGHT OKAY.I GUESS THEY ALLOW IT FOR THE DAY.
THERE WAS NO PARKING. SO I PULLED AND WERE SOMEBODY
PULLED OUT. >> CITY, ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT. BASED ON EVIDENCE AND HAS MONEY PRESENTED, I FIND A VIOLATION EXISTS AND YOU ARE THE PARTY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. I WILL FIND YOU $250 AND ADMIN FEE OF $10 FOR A TOTAL DUE OF $260.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO PAY THE TICKET?
>> PROBABLY, WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW, A MONTH.
>> I'LL GIVE YOU 14 DAYS TO PAY.
FAILURE TO PAY COULD RESULT IN THE TICKET BEING SENT OVER TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM, WELL OR YOU WILL INCUR ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.
I'M JUST WONDERING. I'M ACTUALLY GOING AWAY, AND I WILL BE GETTING A PAYCHECK -- --.
>> IT CAN BE PAID ONLINE. SO YOU CAN SEND HER A LINK TO
WHERE SHE CAN PAY IT ONLINE. >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I NEED AT LEAST A COUPLE WEEKS. AND THEN, I'M GOING TO BE ON VACATION. SO I'M NOT GETTING PAID THAT WEEK. SO I CAN PAY IT WHEN I GET
BACK. >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO EARN THE MONEY WHEN YOU GET BACK FROM VACATION TO PAY FOR THE FINE? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE RETIRED?
>> MA'AM, I WILL GIVE YOU 21 DAYS TO PAY.
THAT WOULD HELP. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> ALL RIGHT.
[D. 23-236PK 102 N Indian River Drive Elizabeth Denise Elguera Charmaine Kirkland]
WE ARE RESUMING BACK TO OUR NORMAL ORDER.OUR NEXT CASE, ELIZABETH DENISE (NAME).
>> CASE NUMBER 23-236 IS A PARKING CITATION WHICH WAS ISSUED ON 102 BLOCK OF NORTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE TO ELIZABET DENISE ELGUERA. CASE INITIATED GENUINE 20TH, 2023 . PARKING CITATION NUMBER 18788.
CODE SECTION 34-31 EMAIL PARKING ANYTIME.
FIND A $50 ADMIN FEE OF $10, LATE FEE OF $18.
TOTAL DUE $78. THE CITY REQUESTS AT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS A VIOLATION EXISTS THE VIOLATOR WILL BE ASSESSED THE DUE INDICATED ABOVE.
THERE TO PAY WILL BE RESULT TO THE CITATION GOING TO THE
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> THE CITY WILL MOVE THOSE
INTO COMPOSITE EXHIBIT 1. >> ANYTHING FURTHER?
I FIND THAT ELIZABETH DENISE (NAME) (INDISCERNIBLE).
BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED, I FIND IT VIOLATION EXISTS AND SHE IS THE PARTY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. I WILL ASSESS A FINE IN THE AMOUNT OF $50 PLUS AN ADMIN FEE OF $10, A LATE FEE OF $18 FOR A
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TOTAL OF $78 DUE. SHE HAS 14 DAYS TO PAY.IF NOT, FAILURE COULD RESULT IN THE FINE BEING SENT OVER TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM WHERE SHE WILL OCCUR ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS. SHE HAS 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.
[A. 23-017CE 1218 S 11TH ST Raul N Arenas Charmaine Kirkland]
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE IS 23- -- -- 23-1712 83 S. 11TH STREET. RAUL (NAME).
>> CASE NUMBER 23-017 OF 1218 S. 11TH STREET.
VIOLATOR RAUL (NAME) CASE INITIATED FEBRUARY 1, 2023.
VIOLATION SECTION CODE 123-37 SUBSECTION 12 IS LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WERE TO CUT AND TRIM ALL HEDGES, SHRUBS AND TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS LOCATED ON MISSISSIPPI AVENUE.
THE CITY REQUESTS THE MAGISTRATE FINDS A VIOLATION EXISTS THE VIOLATOR WILL HAVE 10 DAYS (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> ANYTHING FURTHER? THE TIME AND DATE -- RECENT PHOTOS.
>> HAVE YOU DONE FOLLOW UP ON THE PROPERTY SINCE INITIATING
>> ANY PROGRESS TO THE PROPERTY?
>> NO. >> AND THE PHOTOS THAT YOU -- I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO TAG THE
PHOTOGRAPHS. >> TAKE YOUR TIME.
>> THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU ARE SUBMITTING ARE FROM MARCH 4 OF 2023. IS THAT THE MOST RECENT TIME
YOU WENT BACK TO THE PROPERTY? >> YES.
>> OKAY. AND YOU SAID NO PROGRESS AND TO INITIATE A BACK IN FEBRUARY. OKAY.
THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE IN COMPOSITE EXHIBIT 1 OF THE
PHOTOGRAPHS OF MARCH 4, 2023. >> WILL BE ADMITTED AS SUCH.
>> I FIND THAT RAUL (NAME) IS NOT PRESENT EITHER.
IS THER-- -- I WILL GIVE HIM 10 DAYS TO COMPLY.
IF NOT, A FINE OF $100 PER DAY MAY BE ASSESSED.
YES 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. >> OUR LAST CASE IS 22--- --
[C. 22-3362 622 S 12th St Jacobson Auction Co INC Isaac Saucedo]
622 S. 12TH STREET JACOBSON AUCTION CO. INC.>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.
>> THIS IS CASE NUMBER 22-33 62, 62 S. 12 STREET.
THE CASE WAS INITIATED BY MYSELF ON DECEMBER 12 OF 2022.
OWNERS IS JACOBSON (INDISCERNIBLE) 2103 SUNRISE BOULEVARD HERE IN FORT PIERCE. THE VIOLATIONS ARE IP AND C-3 OF 4.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, SECTION 26-3 STORAGE OF COMMODITIES AND SECTIONS 24-19, 2021 SUBSECTION NUMBER 1 AND 5 FIRST (INDISCERNIBLE) STORAGE. THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS (INDISCERNIBLE).O REMOVE ALL LAWNMOWERS AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS IN THE YARD.
I'M SORRY. REMOVE -- I'M SO SORRY.
REMOVE ALL LAWNMOWERS ON THE TRAILER.
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AND TO REMOVE ALL OUTSIDE STORAGE THROUGHOUT THE YARD.THE CITY IS REQUESTING IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS IT VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR WILL BE GIVEN 10 DAYS TO COMPLY OR FINE OF $150 PER DAY BE ASSESSED.
I DO HAVE PHOTOS HERE THAT SHOW THE VIOLATIONS.
>> AT THIS TIME THE CITY WILL MOVE THOSE IN AS COMPOSITE
EXHIBIT 1. >> IT WILL BE ADMITTED AS SUCH.
ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NOT FOR ME, NO.
>> AND I FIND THIS IS JACOB AUCTION IN? THEY ARE NOT PRESENT. NEITHER IS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THEIR BEHALF. HOWEVER I FIND BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED A VIOLATION EXISTS AT 622 S. 12 STREET AND THEY ARE THE PARTIES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. I WILL GIVE THEM 10 DAYS TO COMPLY OR FIND $150 PER DAY BE ASSESSED.
THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL. >> THANK YOU.
-- --. IF THE GREEN CARD IS RETURNED UNSIGNED AND UNCLAIMED AN AFFIDAVIT OF MAILING WOULD NOTICE OF HEARING AND CLOSE ARE SENT TO THE VIOLATOR REGULAR US MAIL. -- --
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