May 08, 2023 City Commission Conference Agenda

[1. Call to Order]

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GOOD MORNING, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CONFERENCE AGENDA AND IT IS A MONDAY, MAY 8, 2023. WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL .

>> CALL THE ROLE PLAYS.

>> MAYOR HUDSON, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK , COMMISSIONER GAINES ,

[a. Discussion of Little Jim Bait & Tackle lease]

>> MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE LITTLE JIM PLEASE AND AT THAT TIME YOU AND THE STAFF TO PLACES I WANT BACK ON THE CONFERENCE AGENDA SEE ALL CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AS TO THE POSSIBLE DISPOSITION OF THIS PROPERTY. AS YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY IN THE STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED THE PLEASE WITH THE CURRENT TENANT SHALL EXPIRE AND THERE ARE NO EXTENSION OPTIONS. SO YOU ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF THIS FACILITY, FUTURE OF THE LAND AND YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELVES SO I WILL TURN OVER TO YOU AT THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU MR. MIMS, I SEE A FEW ITEMS HERE ABOUT HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

>> YES, YES THAT'S PART TWO.

>> SORRY, I JUMPED THE GUN.

>> SUBSEQUENTLY, WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST BY THE TENANT TO DESIGNATE THE FACILITY AS A HISTORIC INJURY. NOW, WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO THAT. THAT IS ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCEDURE AND SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION. AGAIN, AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS YOUR DETERMINATION AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE SKIP YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THAT REQUEST.

>> WHEN IS THE LEASE UP, JUST FOR THE RECORD?

>> 25, THE EXACT DATE ESCAPES ME BUT I THINK MARCH OR APRIL.

>> JUST UNDER TWO YEARS?

>> YES MA'AM.

>> WANT TO GET THIS OFF? COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS AND MY CONVERSATIONS AND MY LIMITED RESEARCH THAT I HAVE DONE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL PARK PART. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING THAT THIS SITE IS I WOULD RATHER BE ABLE TO CHECK IT OFF AS NOT HISTORICAL THAT CAN'T BE HISTORICAL BEFORE WE MOVE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, DOING ANYTHING ON IT.

I DO KNOW THAT WHAT IS A NAVY SEAL TRAINING SPOT.

>> UNDERWATER DEMOLITION TEAM.

>> SO.

>> IT WAS A GUARD SHACK, THE NUCLEUS OF IT.

>> I WOULD ASK THAT WE AT LEAST LOOK INTO THAT JUST TO SEE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, BEST WITH SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE BEAUTY OF FORT PIERCE AS HISTORICAL SITE ESPECIALLY AS WE HAVE THE MUSEUM ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

>> ACROSS THE WATER, THE INLET.

>> WATER SO BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING I WOULD JUST WANT TO CLEAR MIND THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE COULD AS A BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT COULD BE SPECIFIED AS A HISTORICAL SITE WE HAVE CHECKED ALL THOSE BOXES BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE.

>> TO ADD TO THAT, COMMISSIONER, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF SELLING AND OR FIXING IT UP OR HOW THAT ALL IS AFFECTED. I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON.

>> A LOT OF RESEARCH VISIT TO THIS OVER THE LAST SIX AND HALF YEARS.

IN TALKING MANY FOLKS OVER THAT TIME PERIOD INCLUDING THE PREVIOUS TENANT HOLDER AND OF COURSE THE CURRENT TENANT AND LEASEHOLDER, I SHOULD SAY. ANYWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND A LOT OF RESEARCH IS GOING TO BE NEEDED JUST LIKE WITH ANY HISTORICAL SITE WITHIN OUR CITY GOING THROUGH OTHER PROPERTIES THAT EITHER THE CITY THAT PRA OWNS WHAT WE GET TO THE HISTORICAL PART THAT'S FINE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PARALLEL PATH TO TAKE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY DIGGING TO THE RESEARCH OF THE PROPERTY

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>> ME TOO.

>> OF THE CITY OF OWNS THE PARCEL AND I'M NOT SURE THE HISTORIC RECORD VERY CLEAR ON HOW WE ESTABLISH THOSE PROPERTY LINES YOU TO GO. AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE OLD BRIDGE ACROSS THE WATERWAY THERE WAS NEXT TO THIS FACILITY NOW THE CURRENT BRIDGE THAT EXISTS WAS BUILT FURTHER TO THE NORTH. THIS PARCEL IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF ONE OF WAITING FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RIGHT AWAY. THE BATHROOM BUILDING THAT IS UP NEAR THE ROADWAY WAS BUILT AT SOME POINT SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY FIGHT ST. LUCIE COUNTY WITHIN THE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. AT LEAST ST. LUCIE COUNTY ALWAYS MAINTAINED THOSE BATHROOMS BECAUSE WHEN IWAS AN EMPLOYEE AT THE COUNTY , YOU KNOW, THEY WERE TRYING TO HAND THAT TO US TO SEE IF MR. RIOS WOULD TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE AND WHATNOT OF THAT BUILDING.

I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU MUST HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. SO, IT'S JUST VERY ON THE INTERPERSONALITSELF.

IT'S AN ODD CONFIGURATION . IT'S AN ODD SHAPE. THERE ARE RATES WITHIN THE WATERWAYS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IS THE DOCKING FACILITY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL PHOTO THAT'S IN THE DOCUMENTATION TO BACK UP HERE IT WAS A SMALL SHACK AS YOU SAID, A SMALL SHACK. CHANGE THAT OVER THE YEARS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WERE LIVING WITHIN OUR OWN BOUNDARIES AND THE PROPERTY LINES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK WE OWN, MR. MIMS, TO BE OWN ANOTHER PARCEL TO THE WEST A TRIANGULAR SHAPED PARCEL THAT UNCLEAR ALSO, RIGHT?

>> COMMISSIONER, SPEAKING ON THE BOUNDARIES AND OWNERSHIP THE ONLY PERSON THAT EVEN HAS A CLOSE KNOWLEDGE IS MR. ANDREWS. IF YOU LIKE TO ASK THAT QUESTION HE IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE YOU IN CONCERT.

>> OKAY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE $64,000 QUESTION.

MR. INTEREST.

>> GOOD MORNING MADAM MAYOR. THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION ON THE BOUNDARIES OF LITTLE JIM.

THERE IS NUMEROUS, IN FACT, THIS PAST I LOOKED BACK AND LOOKED AT THE DEED THAT'S ON FILE FOR LITTLE JIM. IT DESCRIBES SOMETHING LIKE 143 ACRES WHICH INCLUDES SUBMERGED LANDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE GIVEN AWAY AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO, WHAT I DID THIS PAST I REACHED OUT TO A SURVEYOR TO COME IN AND DO SOME RESEARCH AND TO COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL BOUNDARY. I HAVE NOT GOT A PROPOSAL GET FROM THEM BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL THE DIFFERENT DEEDS, THE DIFFERENT SUBMERGED LAND LEASES AND EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. IT IS A VERY CONVOLUTED DESCRIPTION AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO FIGURE OUT.

WE ALSO HAVE A DISPUTE WITH DOT BECAUSE THEY ARE LAYING CLAIMS TO A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE IS OURS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT ENTITIES INVOLVED IN THIS.

>> LONG STORY SHORT, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THESURVIVING , PROBABLY.

>> WE NEED TO PURSUE A SURVEY ON THIS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU JEFF FOR THE INFORMATION, THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE ARE DEALING WITH OTHERS DISAGREEMENTS AND/OR CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY AND AS PRA THAT WE GET AHEAD OF THIS.

WE ARE TWO YEARS AWAY TO START OUR HOMEWORK NOW WE CAN IRON OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS.

BECAUSE WHETHER WE PUT UP A SURPLUS OR DISPOSE OF IT OR RFP FOR LEASE AGREEMENT THAT'S OKAY. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE FINE FOR THE OPTIONS.

BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES ARE.

>> ARE THERE ANY REVERSIONARY CLOSES ON IT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT A FRIEND.

>> THAT'S WHERE I AM, >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>> IN A FORMER LIFE I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE FORT PIERCE .

PPRESERVATION BOARD FOREVER. ABOUT NINE YEARS. I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED MY TIME WITHIN THAT GROUP. IN THIS INSTANCE, I BELIEVE THAT LITTLE JIM'S IS ICONIC FORT PIERCE LANDMARK. PROTECTING HISTORICALLY APPOINTED SECRETARY INTERIOR

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THE BALANCE OF THAT, THOUGH, WANTED HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED IT'S THAT.

CHANGING THAT OR MODIFYING THAT SITE HOST DESIGNATION IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE BUT IT IS, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT IS TO BE GOD OR, HENCE THE REASON FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS THE PROPERTY THE CITY AS THE PROPERTY OWNER CURRENTLY. I THINK FROM A PRESERVATION PERSPECTIVE TO MAINTAIN PROPERTY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN PERPETUITY THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROTECTS THAT. SO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION CANNOT COME IN AND SAY WE WANT TO BUILD A 20 STORY CONDO THERE WAS KNOCK IT DOWN.AT THAT POINT IN TIME IT BECOMES PROTECTED IT'S A MUCH MORE CHUNKY PROCESS TO UNWIND THAT THE JUST SAY LIQUIDATE THE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, I FULLY AGREE WE NEED TO KNOW SO A SURVEY I THINK IS A PLACETO START. SECONDARILY, I WOULD HAVE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER START THE RESEARCH TO DETERMINE IF THE PROPERTY SUBJECT TO BE ABLE TO BE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED?HAT COULD BE REPORTED BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION BY STAFF. ULTIMATELY, THEN THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES PHYSICALITY OF THE PROPERTY, ETC. THERE ARE CHALLENGES. I BELIEVE A DEFUNCT SEPTIC SYSTEM THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IN SOME CAPACITY . OBVIOUSLY, THE BUILDING ITSELF IT NEEDS SOME HELP. BUT HAVING HAD SAID THAT THAT KIND OF STAGED SEPARATELY MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT THE DISPOSITION OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE.ND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IT IS HISTORICALLY PROTECTED IF YOU CONTINUE TO OPERATE TO CONTINUE ON WELL INTO THE FUTURE AS AN ICONIC FORT PIERCE LAND MARK. ASK ANYBODY, THEY KNOW THE PLACE. I HAD TO BE THERE RECENTLY THERE WAS NOT A SEAT AVAILABLE.

IT WAS PACKED WHICH WAS GREAT TO SEE, EVERYONE HAD A GREAT TIME IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY.

I THINK WOULD BE AN ERROR ON OUR PART TO LIQUIDATE IT IN ANY CAPACITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEEDESIGNATED, IF POSSIBLE . UPGRADED, AS NEEDED.

AND LONG-TERM TENANT SITUATION CONTINUE THEIR BECAUSE FOLKS ARE HAVING A GREAT TIME THERE, THEY REALLY WERE. AS A PERSON I NOTICED. I AGREE WITH THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE'S A STATE ISSUE, JACK, THAT PERTAINS THEY SAY THEY OWN PART OF THELAND .

WE ARE NOT TO KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET THE DEED ISSUE STRAIGHTENED OUT AND THERE'S ONE CAVEAT OF THIS THAT I THINK FROM AN INFORMATIONAL PERSPECTIVE MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE A CORNERSTONE ELEMENT. WHAT'S THE LEAST VALUE? AND THAT TO ME IS THE CRITICAL QUESTION AT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO HAVETO INVEST MONEY IN THIS FACILITY IN ANY CAPACITY , WELL, I THINK THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE LEASED AT MARKET RENT.

MARKET RENT EST REAL ESTATE PERSON, I HAVE NO CLUE. I COULDN'T EVEN GUESS.

I THINK WE CAN SAY COMMERCIAL TO DETERMINE LEASE VALUE AND POTENTIAL PARTY VALUE, AS WELL.

YOU RUN INTO ALL KIND OF EXPENSE ISSUES ETC. ETC. I LIKE THE IDEA OF MOVING THE ENTIRE PACKET FORWARD KEEPING ALL THE OPTIONS OPEN, HAVE THE CITY TEAM CHECKED THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION POTENTIAL AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF NOT THE TENANT. IN THEM BUT WE HAVE TO DO TO SATISFY THE CENTURY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS AND THIS COULD DELAY THE PROCESS BY THE WAY, MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TURN ONCE THE PACKAGE IS ASSEMBLED AND SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION IS A LENGTHY PROCESS.

>> WHAT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS, GETTING THE NATION?

>> YES, IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE THE SURVEY COMPLETED SECONDARILY I SUGGEST WE WANT TO FIND OUT SOME VALUATIONS HERE MOVING FORWARD, AS WELL. BECAUSE WE DO AN RFP FOR A LEASE WHICH HAS SOME BENCHMARK NUMBERS TO SAY GOOD LEASE VALUE IS.

THE SPACE OF THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY. IT NEEDS SOME HAMMER AND NAILS OUT THERE.

>> PART OF ITS CHARM IS IT RIGHT NOW.

>> LIKE I SAID, IT CAN'T, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WAS A BREAKFAST I WILL SEGUE INTO SOMETHING. THE TWO TABLES NEXT WEEK WERE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE JACK'S.

I WAS LIKE JESUS, EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HISICONIC, AS PART OF FORT PIERCE , AS PART OF THE HISTORY IS A REFLECTION OF FORT PIERCE IN THE RESIDENCE SINCE I'VE BEEN EVERYTHING ARE HAVING A GREAT TIME SO THAT IS SOMETHING SERIOUSLY TO KEEP I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES KNOCKED DOWN BUT AN RFP TO SELL IT TO PUT IN

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THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE.

>> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON .

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE FOR A CONDO THAT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY FROM THE TRAFFIC.

MY CONCERN COMES UP TO TWO THINGS. WE GOT HERE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS BUT WHAT'S MORE NEEDED IS A TWO YEARS THERE'S A BUSINESS THERE THE CONDITIONS OF THAT PLACE RIGHT NOW ARE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO AN EVEN THE SAFETY NOT JUST THE SAFETY OF INJURY FROM A FALL BETWEEN THE CRACK OR SOMETHING BUT ALSO THE SAFETY OF THE SANITARY CONDITIONS THAT THE BATHROOMS AND HOW RAINWATER IS HANDLED, PLAY, ETC. TO DO ALL THAT I AM SITTING HERE THINKING IS WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT INTO SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT RETAIN AFTER TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IN YEARS. IT IS OUT OF OUR HANDS, IT HAS GO UP. WHO IS GOING TO DO THAT? TO FIX THE POLISHING IT NEEDS RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE $100,000 QUESTION ON WHAT WE DO.

BECAUSE IF THE TENANT IS NOT GONNA DO IT AND WHO IS GOING TO FIX THESE THINGS? THINGS LIKE BATHROOMS AND WATE , THAT'S IMMEDIATE, THOSE ARE EMERGENCY.

THAT CITIZENS HAVE ELECTED MEET THEM OF WHEN IT COMES TO DEPARTED FROM THINGS LIKE THAT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS. AND SO, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US WHAT WAS IN YOUR GATHERING INFORMATION FROM THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND SERVING AND THAT MR. ANDREWS BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WAS SPEAKING THE SAME THING FIRST, WE DO THINK OF WHAT WE OWN AND WHAT WE DON'T OWN A RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THIS WEEKEND AND I NEED TO KNOW IN THIS COMMISSION PROBABLY IS TO FIGURE OUT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO DO EVEN TO JUST MAKE SURE. CONTINUE TO KEEP OPEN THAT WERE UP TO STANDARDS AND WERE NOT CAUSING IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO THAT WATERWAY.

I HAVE GOT CONCERNS THAT WAY, RIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ON THE TABLE AND WE GET AN ASSESSMENT FROM EITHER BUILDING OR WHOEVER ASSESSES THE SAFETY AND STANDARDS THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE THERE NOW.

>> SO, I THINK WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A LITTLE JIM, MYSELF. I THINK FORT PIERCE IS LUCKY TO HAVE IT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PRESERVED. I WILL LET YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND WHAT THAT MEANS DOWN THE LINE FOR US AS THE PROPERTY OWNER OR IF THERE IS EVER A DESIRE TO SELL THE PROPERTY HOW THAT AFFECTS THE SALE.

I THINK WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPERATING IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THEY HAVE DONE REALLY WELL IS REACH OUT TO THE NAVY SEALS MUSEUM WITH THE PARTNERSHIP SO THAT THE NAVY SEALS WHO COME THERE FROM BUSTER AND OTHER HOLIDAYS THE TOURISTS THAT COME UP THERE AND THE FORMER SEALS THAT COME THERE CANNOT LOOK AT LITTLE JIM IN A WAY THAT'S THEIR LOCAL AND THEY HAVE MADE AND IT REALLY WORKS AND MAKING THAT RELATIONSHIP. I THINK WE ARE LUCKY. I DON'T KNOW HOW HISTORIC PRESERVATION WORKS IT HAS BEEN CHANGED SO IF THAT AFFECTS WHETHER IS ELIGIBLE, I THINK, AND IF IT IS ELIGIBLE AND VISITED WHAT CAN BE CHANGED AFTER THAT? I DO THINK THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES THE PROPERTY ITSELF GET THIS WORKED AS MISSION OR DOES THE BUILDING GET HISTORIC DESIGNATION? BUT I ALSO CONSIDER WATERFRONT PROPERTY JUST LIKE WE ALL WANT TO PRESERVE OUR WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND ITS THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND FORT PIERCE AND VISITORS WHO WANT US TO PRESERVE SOME OF OUR CITY CHARM AND I THINK LITTLE JIM IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE ARE WE TRY TO CHANGE THINGS FOR PIERCE RAISES UP AND SAYS STOP WE WANT TO KEEP ITS CHARM AND I THINK A LITTLE JIM IS ONE OF THOSE SAMPLES OF IT. SO, COMMISSIONERS, I THINK WE WILL BE TO GET DIRECTION TO MR. MIMS WHERE WE GO FROM HERE SO I HEAR EVERYBODY IS FOR THE SURVEYOR AND MOVING ONTO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AT LEAST WHAT IS INVOLVED, IS ELIGIBLE

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>> I HAVE SEEN ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT SURVEYS AND IT APPEARS ON SOME SURVEYS AND SOME SURVEYS NOW. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> WE NEED A SURVEYOR FOR THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK .

>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION I THINK IS RELATIVE AND THIS TIES INTO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT 24 MONTHS. OBVIOUSLY, AS A BUSINESS OWNER GIVE A SHORT-TERM SCENARIO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE INVESTING MONEY INTO FACILITY THAT IN 24 MONTHS COULD POTENTIALLY --THAT DOVETAILS DIRECTLY INTO THE SANITATION HEALTH ISSUES, ETC. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BETWEEN NOW AND 24 MONTHS FROM NOW THE ON-SITE PORTABLE TOILETS VERSUS PART CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES , SEPTIC SYSTEM FAILURE AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY TO PUBLIC SEWER IN THAT LOCATION, I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED, AS WELL.

DIRECTLY TO WHAT THE COMMENTARY WAS IT'S NOT WANT TO GET BETTER.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME PROACTIVE STANCE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE TENANT IS SHORT-TERM, IN THEORY. I DON'T SEE THEM COMING INTO INVEST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO OPERATE THE FACILITY THEY HAVE A 24 MONTH TERM.

THAT I BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE--.

>> THAT PART OF THE RFP THAT'S TWO YEARS, RIGHT?

>> IN TWO YEARS WHAT HAPPENS?

>> THERE'S NO GUARANTEE TO THE RFP PROCESS IS OPEN AND THAT'S JUST HOW THE PROCESS WORKS I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND I WANT TO PUT THAT.

>> SO, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. WE HAVE DONE THAT AS A CITY, AS A LAND OWNER WE STARTED A DESIGN PROCESS I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR WE GOT, MR. MIMS. MR. ANDREWS IS COVERING THAT WE ARTY. THE CONSULTANTS TO DESIGN A SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM WHICH IS A PUMP SYSTEM TO CONNECT TO THE RAMP ACROSS THE WAY THAT WILL LEAD TO THE COUNTIES SANITARY SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND IS ALMOST COMPLETE AND I THINK THE RIGHT-OF-WAY QUESTION IS PROBABLY MR. ANDREWS YOU CAN COMMENT ON THAT IS THAT THE BIG DEAL AT THIS POINT FOR A LIFT STATION TO GO IN? IS IT A RIGHT-OF-WAY PROPERTY OWNERSHIP DO?

>> THERE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE A COMPLETED DESIGN PLANS FOR THIS FOR PERMITTING AND WE ARE ALL TO THE PROCESS WE ARE JUST WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY KEEP KICKING IT BACK SAYING, IN FACT, IT BOILS DOWN TO WHERE THE BOARD PIT IS LOCATED THE BOARD UNDER THE WATER THEY ARE SAYING WELL WE FEEL THIS IS NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY. WHICH COMES UP AGAIN WITH THE NEED FOR THE SURVEY THAT WE CAN PROVE IT TO THEM THAT, YES, THIS IS THAT.O, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT AND WE HAVE BEEN HELD FROM DEP FOR PROBABLY SIX MONTHS NOW ON THAT. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH ALL THIS, IT'S BEEN A LONG PERMITTING PROCESS BUT WE ARE GETTING CLOSER.

>> IT USUALLY DOES NOT TAKE THIS LONG, IT WOULD BE A MONTH. JACK, CAN WE NOT ISSUE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH THE DOT FOR THE PUMP STATION TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SO WE CAN MOVE ON IN THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC?

>> YES, COMMISSIONER, THAT'S THE NEXT THING WITH BEING AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM TO TRADE PROPERTY THAT THEY SAY THEY OWN FOR A PROPERTY THAT THEY NEED FOR THE U.S. ONE OBJECT.

WE HAVE A PROPERTY ALONG THEIR SO I HAVE COME TO THE TABLE WITH THEM SAME, OKAY, WE WILL GRANT YOU THE PROPERTY THAT YOU NEED ALONG U.S. ONE IF WE SETTLE THE PROPERTY AT LITTLE JIM. THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THE FOR, WELL, IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR NOW. WE ARE STILL LOOKING.

>> YOU ARE VERY PATIENT. COMMISSIONER GAINES .

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WOKE UP THE OTHER DAY AND AS THE PROPERTY OWNER THE LAST THING I

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>> OUR STATE REP, OUR STATE SENATOR.

>> THE LAST THING I WANT IS SOME TYPE OF SPILLAGE AND THAT WATERWAY RIGHT THERE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW IS THE PROBLEM OUT THERE. SO, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HAND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE CAN PUT ON THIS TRACK OVER HERE BUT OUR FAST TRACK SHOULD BE RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO HELP MR. ANDREWS DO WHATEVER HE CAN TO GET THE SEWAGE.

ASK MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS >> MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION IN TALLAHASSEE OUR REPRESENTATIVE USED TO BE WITH THE DEP SO I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE ASK HIM TO HELP US WITH.

>> YEAH, ENGAGE THAT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, MR. ANDREWS, AS WE ALL KNOW DOT HAS ANNOUNCED THE NEW LAUNCHED SPAN OVER BRIDGE IS THAT HIM. SOME OF THIS SPACE THAT THEY ARE CLAIMING MAYBE THERE'S NOW AS WE BUILD THIS NEW BRIDGE THAT'S COMING ACROSS?

>> WELL, YES.

>> ON THAT LITTLE JIM ON NOT TALKING ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE.

>> ON THE EAST SIDE THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT FOR LAYDOWN AREA FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SO THEY WERE TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT AREA IN THEIR. THE CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY ENDS A LITTLE FURTHER WEST THAN A LITTLE JIM BUT THEY STILL WANT TO TRY AND PRESERVE THE AREA THEY SAY THEY HAVE.

>> OKAY, GOT IT. DIDN'T KNOW IF THE ROADWAY WAS GOING TO BE WIDER COMING ACROSS THAT SPAN AND TAKEN SOME OF THAT SPACE TO COME EASTWARD OFF OF THE BRIDGE I WAS JUST CURIOUS INTO THAT BECAUSE I GUESS IF WE ARE LOOKING AT WHERE THE LIFT STATION WOULD GO IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THAT'S THE BATTLE RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S THE PART WE NEED TO GET CLARIFIED FROM OUR HELP TO FIGURE OUT WHY ARE YOU HOLDING US UP FROM PUTTING IN SOMETHING HERE? I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS OF NOT HAVING THIS IN A PLACE TO DEAL WITH THAT TYPE OF SITUATION AND THAT NEGATIVE ATTENTION WE DON'T WANT UNSANITARY STUFF OUT THERE BEING DISCHARGED.

>> WE DO NOT. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK . ONE OF THE QUESTION I WAS TOLD AT SOME WE IN HISTORY THERE WAS A LARGE FUEL STORAGE TANK THERE ON THE SITE.

THERE BEEN ANY PHASE I OR PHASE II ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS DONE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF?

>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

>> I'M NOT SAYING CONDITIONS EXIST I WAS TOLD THERE WAS A LARGE IN TERMS OF DIESEL GAS OR WHATEVER IT WAS IT WAS A SERVICE TANK NOT BURIED, UNFORTUNATELY.

>> DON'T START THAT ROOM. ONCE I WITHDRAW THE QUESTION AND THEN.

>> MR. ANDREWS, LITTLE OFF SUBJECT BUT THE BOAT RAMP ACROSS THE WAY I'M REMEMBERING.

IT WAS CLOSED IS A CULTURE OF? CLOSE OR OPEN?

>> THE ONES ACROSS WE ARE OPEN. IT WAS BY THE BRIDGE ARE CLOSED.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE DRAWBRIDGE

>> MAYOR, ONE MORE COMMENT, JACK IT'S NOT FOR YOU.JUST GOING BACK TO THE RFP AND THE LEASE AND THINKING AHEAD OF ALL THE THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL EFFORTS AND DESIGNATION POSSIBLY THE DESIGNATION I WANT TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH AND HAVE A STAFF PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO US BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HISTORICAL IT DOESN'T MEAN THE CITY HAS TO OWN IT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, I REALLY DO.

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IT IS >>. BUT, I AM HERE TO SAY, HELLO, READY TO PROTECT LITTLETON. BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THOUGH ONLY TWO OF THOSE ARE THE FIVE THAT HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PARCEL AT THE MARINA AND GO TO THE RFP PROCESS AND I WILL TELL YOU THE YOUR MENTALITY WILL CHANGE IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE THERE IS A PUBLIC RFP AND A LEASE AGREEMENT ON TALK ABOUT TIKI AND THE CRAPPIES AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND FOLKS THIS TO SEE IT DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT SHOW UP TO MEETINGS AND THAT'S OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE IT REALLY, AN OPINION, SINCE BUT I'M TELLING YOU AS A CONNECTION IT'S CHALLENGING, RIGHT MAYOR?

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE STILL TO THIS DAY HELP ME HOW DISAPPOINTED THEY ARE AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT, THAT WAS TOUGH.

>> I BRING THE PERSONAL UP BECAUSE THE DIFFERENT HERE IS WHY, THE CITY CAN NEVER, IN MY BELIEF, THE CITY CANNOT DIVULGE ITSELF FROM BECAUSE OF THE MARINA OPERATION IF WE WERE TO SELL THE MARINA BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY LARGE DOWNTOWN, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT'S A PIECE OF GRASS, A PIECE OF LAND THAT WE ARE WITHHOLDING THINK THERE'S ANY, I'M NOT SURE OF AWAY THAT THE CITY COULD PARCEL OUT WHERE CRAPPIES SINCE TODAY.

>> I FOR ONE AM NOT INTERESTED >> MY POINT IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN A PARCEL OF LAND WHERE LITTLE JIM BRIDGE SITS TODAY.. AT THE END OF THE DAY I'M OKAY I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF THAT QUESTION. WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS PARCEL AS GOVERNMENT BUSINESS DATE DATE THE OWN PRIVATE PIECES PROPERTY FOR LEASE AGREEMENTS, I'M NOT SO SURE. SO I DO ASK THAT QUESTION.

>> DO YOU CONSIDER THAT WATERFRONT, LITTLE? JIM IS WATERFRONT PROPERTY SO I HAVE SORT OF A DIFFERENT FEELING ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

>> WE HAVE A PERSON IN PIECES OF THE ORDINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT PRESERVING WATERFRONT AND IS AND IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT AS WE TAKE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS HAS BECOME OF THIS ENDEAVOR UNITY THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE LEASE.

THE TENANT IS HERE TODAY A REPRESENTATIVE VERY INTERESTED IN KEEPING THEM AND HOLDING AN OBSTACLE TO IT HAS TO GO THROUGH PUBLIC PROCESS.

>> YOU RAISE A VALID POINT WHEN THIS COMES UP OVER THE EXISTING LEASE THE 40 SOME PAGES OF BACKUP DOCUMENTATION THAT GOES WITH IT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS AS TO HOW THE LEASE IS UP.

SHIFTING SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN TO THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE REPAIR ETC..

THAT CAN BE CHANGED. WHEN THE NEW RFP I WOULD WANT TO SEE MORE OF THIS BURDEN TRANSFERRED TO THE GOING INTO IN THE RFP PROCESS THEY KNOW WHAT THE GAME AND WHAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET TO PHOENIX VERSUS THE CITY JEFFREY X NUMBER OF DOLLARS MONTHLY AND INVESTING TO AND THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SITE BUT I THINK WE CAN RESTRUCTURE AND PACKAGE THAT PROBABLY THE SO I THINK IT'S

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THE >> MR. MIMS, OR YOU.

WE ARE DISCUSSING?

>> MADAM, YOU CANNOT TRUST ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY

>> MAYOR? I WANT TO BRING TO EVERYONE THAT OUR OFFICE HAS AN EXTENSIVE AS WELL ABOUT THE OF THE PROPERTY IN THE OWNERSHIP SO IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL IS WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU GIVE HIM TO ALSO INCLUDE A TITLE SEARCH AND THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN A LONG-STANDING QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT WE OWE OWN AND WHAT WE DON'T OWN AND I THINK THE SURVEY IS HELPFUL BUT IF YOU DO ANYTHING PROPERTY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE CLEAR TITLE.

>> ABSOLUTELY, WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT THEDECISIONS. THE SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS POSITION IS SELLING IT , WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

>> THE LEASE OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP THAT DISPOSITION. THE DISPOSITION POLICIES CHANGE THAT. HOW ABOUT RECEIVING DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RFP.

MADAM, BEAR.

>> IN TWO YEARS.

>> WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS NOW IT'S A LONG EXPENSIVE PROCESS IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS CORRECTLY AND OF ALL THE POSSIBLE TITLE FUZZINESS. PROPERTY VALUES WE NEED TO KNOW, WITH NO THE DESIGNATION OF HIS VISUAL WITH OUR NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH THE DETERMINE WHAT IS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL AFFECT THE

>> ALL OF THAT, WHAT IS UP. >> IF YOU LOOK FOR US BEFORE WE WILL BE THIS INITIATIVE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP PROCESS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT SOUNDS NOT IN THE FAVOR OF MOVING IN RFP PROCESS UNTIL I GET ANSWERS ON WHO PROPERTY , WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ALL WE LATER HERE WE NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE HAVE A STAFF COULDN'T. PROCESS OF RFP.

I THINK THEY THINK IS AHEAD OF US SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON. ON THAT FOR THE SAKE AND GO BACK TO WHERE I JUST WONDER. SO ALL THESE ANSWERS WILL DEAL WITH.

NEXT IS >> I WOULD ALWAYS AN IMPROVEMENT.

>> WHAT HE HEARD. I I HEARD PEOPLE REACTING WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RFP PROCESS AND WE DON'T NEED BEFORE WE MOVE FOR ANY THE MONTHLY BUT WE JUST WENT THROUGH WHAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LAW OF CHANGE.

IT SOME OF THE THINGS WE IMMEDIATELY STATED OF THE CONDITIONS OUT WHICH IS BEFORE ANY RFP NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE RIGHT BECAUSE THE CURRENT LEASE BEEN BASED ON WHO IS

RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WILL BE >> MR. MIMS, HOW MUCH SWEETENED YOU NEED FOR THE RFP PROFITS?

>> LEAD AT TIMES FOR DIRECTION, IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS VERY COMPLICATED AND I THINK RFP PROCESS SHALL INCLUDE ALL NECESSARY RESEARCH THIS IS THE PLACE. THE FACILITY BUT IF YOU LIKE AND YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU ARE, WITH. THANKS. SITUATION THIS WEEK AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP AND THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT IS

>> BEFORE WANTS US TO THINK ABOUT THE SHOWN PARCEL OF PROPERTY.

IN THE ABSENCE OF THE PROPERTY NEEDED RFP.

>> WE HAVE TO WALK IN RFP.

>> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD IT BUT AT THE SAME TIME BOTH OF THOSE BETWEEN THE SCENES THAT.

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>> WHAT ABOUT CHANGE IF IT COMES BACK AND WE CAN THINGS WE THINK WE LIKE TO DO OKAY? MAYBE IT'S JUST FOR ME.

>> ULTIMATELY ANYTHING HERE. I'M TRYING IT.

>> I'M TALKING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

>> I JUST WORRY ABOUT THAT HE AND IT GETS WORSE. THE WHOLE PROCESS ONLY TO FIGURE OUT, BREAKING THE CITY COMMISSION HAS TO DO WITH THE HEALTH AND WELFARE FOR THE YEAR. WILLING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

I NEEDED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I DON'T NEED INFORMATION HERE JAMMED WITH THEM WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE MISINFORMED I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

>> JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT TO BE CONSERVATIVE IF YOU ALLOW THE STAFF AT SIX MONTHS TO RESEARCH ALL OF THESE ISSUES WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH OUR FINDINGS AND EVEN DRAFT AND RFP FOR YOUR REVIEW FOR THE SALE OR LEASE OF THE LAND. IF THAT WOULD SUIT YOUR NEEDS IT IS MADE SO, DECEMBER.

>> MAYOR, I WANT TO BE CLEAR FROM A REALISTIC PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE ARE ASKING CITY STAFF TO DO. CLEARLY, NOT JUST A BOUNDARY SURVEY WE WANT THE SITE PLAN AS TO WHAT IS THERE, IN MY OPINION. YOU NEED A TITLE SEARCH YOU NEED MAYBE NEED A TITLE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE POSITION RELEASING ANOTHER TENANT STATE THAT WE DON'T AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEASE.

>> THAT NEVER STOPPED US BEFORE.

>> CHANGE HOW I DO MY BUSINESS THEN.

>> NO, I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER WE HAVE.

>> THE SPECIFICS OF IT I THINK COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS RIGHT BEFORE WE GET TEED UP WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE GOT. THE ONLY WAY WE FIND THAT OUT MR. TITLE SEARCH.

SURVEY ETC. ETC. I WOULD LIKE WANT THE SURVEY TO INCLUDE THE BUILDING STRUCTURES AND EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE.I WANT A PLAN, I WANT A SITE PLAN BASICALLY IS WHAT IS THERE.

ULTIMATELY, FOR THE PURPOSES WE NOW HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT LEASE IS A THIS IS WHAT YOUR RENT, THIS IS YOUR BEHIND WHATEVER THE DISPOSITION IS UNTIL THAT POINT IN TIME FOR SALE IN RFP. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW. I THINK THAT'S THE DANGER! THERE. I THINK NICK IS INDICATING WE GET ALL THIS INFORMATION TO US AND TESTED AND THEN THE RFP THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SIX MONTHS I'M GLAD YOU SAID IT, MR. MIMS, WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH ALL THIS PROCESS. IN MY MIND, THE QUESTION I HEAR HIM ASKING US IS DO YOU WANT TO DISPOSE OF THIS PROPERTY? WHETHER THAT MEANS A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR A SALE.

I THIS COMMISSION MIGHT TO SAY, NO, TIME HOW WE WANT DEAN AND HIS STAFF IN THEIR.

HONESTLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I'M LOOKING AT IT COMMISSIONERS, HOW DO YOU WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY? THAT'S WHAT I HEAR THE QUESTION ASKED AND HERE IS THAT BASIC.

I THINK THE SIX MONTHS IS GOING TO GIVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I THINK THAT IF WE CHOOSE TO GO THE ROUTE OF LEASE, SALE, WHATEVER THE RFP PROCESS THE MARKET JUST TAKES A LOUSY OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO COME IN AND SAY I'M GOING TO BUY OR LEASE IT AND JUST LIKE WE DONE MANY, MANY TIMES I THINK IS JUST GETTING STAFF INFORMATION TO SAY THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE ARE HEADED, THIS IS WHATWE THINK , THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO GET THERE OVER THE NEXT SIX, 18, 24 MONTHS AND THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO E, THIS IS OUR DIRECTION BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WHAT IF WE WANT TO PUT STUFF IN THERE? WERE NOT GOING TO BUT THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HEAR.

>> IS NOT THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, MR. MIMS?WHAT HE SAID.

>> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DISPOSITION, I JUST WANT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE OF WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS. SIX MONTHS I THINK WILL BE ENOUGH TIME FOR STEP BACK AND YOU CAN COME BACK WITH THE DRAFT RFP FOR A SALE OR LEASE AT THAT POINT BUT UNTIL THAT TIME I WANT TO LEARN AND HOPEFULLY I HAVE INTERACTION WITH YOU AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY WILL COME ALONG THIS PROCESS WILL BE LEARNING WHO OWNS WHAT OVER THERE BECAUSE I'M REALLY CONFUSED NOW AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO GET OUR

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>> ALL RIGHT, MANAGEMENT MAYOR, I'M GOOD WITH THE SIX MONTHS. SOMEONE MADE THE FIRST PART OF THE SIX MONTHS LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE SEWAGE SITUATION. SO WE CAN STOP THAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE CAN GO THAT'S MY FOCUS RIGHT NOW. I READ EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THE FIRST PART OF THAT SIX MONTHS LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP YOU, MR. ANDREWS, SO I CAN GET DONE WHAT WE CAN GET DONE TO PROTECT THE WATERWAY. P

>> THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THERE BUT IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE AND MY PERSONAL OPINION HAS TO DO WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO THE BILLING DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL HERE IN THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK TO THE PROPERTY EVALUATION IT'S VERY LOW. IT.

TO DO A SIMPLE TASK SUCH AS ELECTRIC PANEL OR ELECTRIC. IT'S GOING TO SURPASS THE 50 PERCENT THRESHOLD MARK MEANS YOU HAVE TO THEN BRING IN TO CODE COMPLIANCE AND BUILDING CODE. SO THIS IS MORE ADMINISTRATIVE THAN IT IS A LEGISLATIVE.

BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD BECAUSE I DON'T GET TO CALL YOU GUYS ON THE PHONE I THINK THAT'S A REAL THING THAT HAPPENS YOU SAY YAY OR NAY , I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION, ALSO.

>> QUESTION, IF WE UNDERSTOOD THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT WHICH I'M TRYING TO DO WE NEED AN ELECTRIC PANEL UPGRADE. I KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT, BUT THE ASSESSMENT OF THE USE OF US COMING BACK AND SAYING THIS IS THE CONDITION OF THE CURRENT BUILDING RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO LEASE JUST MINIMIZE FOR SAFETY CONCERNS NEEDS TO BEDONE , BOOM, BOOM, BOOM AND THEN I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID AS FAR AS THE ASSESSMENT AND OF VALUE AND THE THRESHOLD AND ALL OF THAT.

>> BASICALLY, IF YOUR BUILDING IS WORTH 20,000 AND YOUR 12,000 WORTH OF WORK THAT IS TO BE DONE AND NEED TO BRING UP TO BUILDING CODE.

>> WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD? WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE FORMULATION OF IT BUT I'M ALSO AWARE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TO THE PROPERTY THERE AND HAS ISSUES WITH THE PHYSICALITY OF THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY. THAT TIES IN DIRECTLY WITH THE 24 MONTH TIME LINE THESE PROBLEMS WILL NOT GET BETTER OVER THAT DURATION OF TIME.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE SWEAR THAT UP.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER FOR. I'M AWARE OF THE CURRENT SITUATIONS THERE. BASED ON THE CURRENT CONTRACT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?

>> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THERE IS ALWAYS A SOLUTION.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTION OF A BUILDING HE'S GOING TO COME UP AND TELL US ABOUT OUR CURRENT PATH TOWARDS A RESOLUTION

>> MADAM MAYOR , I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ENCODED CASE OR NOT.

I WANT TO ADVISE CARSON ABOUT THE PENDING CASE AND ALSO NOTE THAT THE POTENTIAL RESPONDENT IN THAT CASE IS REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DID NOTE THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH POSSIBLE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE AND SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT HOWEVER THERE IS A PENDING FLOOD MITIGATION PERMIT THAT IS BEEN SUBMITTED.

WE HAVE ALSO IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO THE ELECTRICAL CONCERNS THAT ARE THERE. THE TENANT ELECTRICIAN WAS OUT OF TOWN LAST WEEK.

HOWEVER, NOW HE'S BACK IN TOWN TODAY WE DO INTEND TO SPEAK WITH HIM AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SOLUTION IS ON THE HORIZON.

>> MR. MIMS, ARE YOU CLEARWATER?

>> I AM CLEAR NOW, YES. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE ALL THE ANSWERS AND ALWAYS PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR COMPLETION STATUS FOR THE DUE DILIGENCE PRIOR TO ANY SOLICITATION FOR QUALIFIED VENDORS FOR THIS PROJECT, THAT'S NO PROBLEM WE WILL MAKE

THAT HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING SURE WE GIVE YOU A CLEAR DIRECTION BECAUSE I WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

I WANT TO KNOW ALSO IF YOU COULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS IS IF THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE

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[b. Renewal of Revocable License for Land Use with Treasure Coast Youth Sailing Foundation at Jaycee Park Recommendation from the Parks Advisory Committee.]

>> WE WILL FIND OUT. >> COMMISSIONERS, ARE WE OKAY? DO WE MOVE ON?

>> NEXT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS RENEWAL OF A REVOCABLE LICENSE FOR LAND USE WITH TREASURE COAST YOUTH SAILING FOUNDATION AT JC PARK AT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> MR. MIMS.

>> OUR VOLUNTEER EXTRAORDINAIRE IS GOING TO COME BEFORE US AND TALK TO US ABOUT OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TREASURE COAST YOUTH SAILING FOUNDATION.

>> MR. RAILS, WELCOME. WHO IS GOING TO START?

>> GOOD MORNING MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIOERS. I AM HERE TO BE MS. ADAIR'S PERSONAL ASSISTANT.

>> YOU ARE DOING A FINE JOB.

>> AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE WE HAVE HAD A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TREASURE COAST YOUTH SAILING FOUNDATION. SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH MR. ROY WHITEHEAD THAT CAME TO THE CITY WITH THE IDEA MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND I BELIEVE WE FORMALIZED AN AGREEMENT AROUND 2006. THAT AGREEMENT IS SET TO EXPIRE IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.

MS. ADAIR IS HERE WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S RESEARCH AND REGULATION.

>> MS. ADAIR, WELCOME.

>> WE ARE NOT SEEING ANYTHING.

>> I'M TRYING TO SHOW IT. IT'S NOT STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING.

>> HERE COMES THE CALVARY.

>> I'M ON IT, BOBBY. >> EVERYBODY LOVES A BOBBY.

>> THANK YOU, BOBBY. >> NOT ON THIS ONE, THAT'S FINE, THERE WE GO.

>> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. AS MIKE MENTIONED OUR ASSIGNMENT THE ASSIGNMENT WAS TO COMMENT ON WHETHER THE FOLLOWING AMENDED LICENSE SHOULD BE RENEWED AND I BELIEVE THAT ON AUGUST 1 OF THIS YEAR. IT'S A REVOCABLE LICENSE FOR LAND USE FOR TREASURE COAST SAILING 4-6-2006 THERE HAVE BEEN TO MMS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEN AND 2013 AND 2018. THESE DOCUMENTS ALL ALLOW TREASURE COAST YOUTH SAILING FOUNDATION INCORPORATED TO OPERATE AT JC PARK. THE RESPONSE FROM THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THE SHORT ANSWER IS, YES. OF COURSE, THERE IS UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR THE TREASURE COAST YOUTH SAILING FOUNDATION TO CONTINUE OPERATING AT JC PARK.

THE YOUTH SAILING PROGRAM ENHANCES COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND PROVIDE THE CLEAN, HEALTHY FUN WAY. USED TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL WATERS.

THAT'S ALL GREAT AND WELL SUPPORTED. THERE IS A HOWEVER, HOWEVER.

THAT IS THAT WE SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW LICENSE GIVEN THAT THE ONE DATED IN 2006 HAS HAD RENEWALS AND SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS DUE TO THE TREASURE YOU THE COAST SAILING EXPANSION. THE NEW LICENSE SHOULD CONSISTENTLY USE THE FULL LEGAL NAME FOR THE FOUNDATION IT'S CALLED SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS AND THIS DOCUMENT. SO, OUR SUGGESTION INCLUDE FIRST THAT THE LESSONS PROVIDED HERE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD INVOLVE ABOUT 15 STUDENTS AND 3 TO 4 INSTRUCTIONS INSTRUCTORS WOULD APPLY.ANY SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE IF THEY DECIDE TO HAVE LIKE A BIG RAISE OR SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM ALL OVER THAT WOULD REMAIN UNDER THE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT ISSUES AND THEY WOULD NEEDED TO PULL ONE OF THOSE PERMITS FOR THOSE EVENTS.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN ASSUMPTION OF FRONT. ALL EMPLOYEES, VOLUNTEERS AND

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A COPY OF THE RULES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE WE FEEL AS A CITY SPONSOR ACTIVELY IS IMPORTANT THAT THIS ACTIVITY PROVIDE A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR EVERYONE IN THE PARKS.

AND THIS COMES FROM SOMEONE DISCUSSION ABOUT VARIOUS RULE VIOLATIONS AND PEOPLE VISITING PARKS ALTER DOING, YOU KNOW THE STORY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. SUGGESTIONS CONTINUE FIRST WE TACKLE THE LAND SPACE WHICH IS PROBABLY THE ISSUE THAT PROBABLY GATHERED THE MOST CONCERN FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PARKS COMMITTEE. THE LAND SPACE ALLOWED IS FIVE FEET AROUND THE BUILDING IN THESE DOCUMENTS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN WE HAVE A RULE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AND THERE'S NO RULE AT ALL.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO THESE FOLKS. WE FEEL IT'S REAL IMPORTANT IN ALL CASES IF WE IRON OUT THE DETAILS OF THIS THEN MAINTAIN THAT WE FOLLOW THOSE RULES, THAT'S IT. SO, AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR JUST THROUGH EMAIL AND SOME OTHER MEETINGS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE TREASURE COAST YOUTH SAILING ALONG THE MANGROVES AND NEATLY ONE RACK OUTSIDE EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE INSIDE.

AT THAT TIME, THERE COVID AND OTHER CHANGES THE PLACE WAS QUITE A MESS.

SO THEY DID CLEAN THAT UP AND WE MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. HOWEVER, THIS AGREEMENT HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED AS OF THIS WEEKEND THERE ARE MORE BOATS OUT THERE THAN IN THESE PICTURES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES AND A TRAILER THAT WOULD NOT BE THIS AGREEMENT. AND THEY HAVE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE THE AGREEMENT THEY HAVE NOT MOVED. WE PERSONALLY, PERSONALLY AS A COMMITTEE, YOU CAN SAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BEACH AREA KEPT CLEAN UNLESS OF COURSE THEY ARE HAVING A CLASSES. BUT WHATEVER THAT SPACE IS FIGURED THAT OUT AND THEN ADHERE TO IT. AND TO KEEP OUR LAGOON WATERS CLEANED WE RECOMMEND ALL EQUIPMENT BE DONE INSIDE THE BUILDING. SOME TALK OF DOING A FIBERGLASS WORK IN FRONT OF THAT OTHER BUILDING AND THAT MADE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE QUITE UNCOMFORTABLE GIVEN THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN THE WATER GO UP TO THE BUILDING.

AT VARIOUS TIMES EVEN DURING CERTAIN TIMES IT GOES UP DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A STORM.

AS WE CONTINUE THE LAND SPACE NOW THE WATER SPACE. THE WATER SPACE WOULD BE LIMITED TO BETWEEN AT THE MOVIES AND SWIM AREA ON THE SOUTH AND THE DOCS IN THE FLOATING LINE THAT CLEARLY DELINEATES THEIR AREA OF THE WATER.S WE KNOW THAT THE WATER USAGE ONLY OR ANY OTHER ENTITY CANNOT ON THE WATER. IT'S STATE LAW THAT NO WATERCRAFT CAN BE IN THE SWIM AREA THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE MORE SPACE TO SAIL OUT OF THEIR. THE SWIM AREA IS DESIGNATED AS IT IS IN A LICENSED.

THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT. THE SWIM AREA IS PROTECTED BY THE STATE AND THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO ADHERE TO THAT LA .

IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ROPE OFF THE SWIM AREA TO THE NEXT BUOY JUST WANTED BUOY DOWN THE FLOATING ROAD THERE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING CLASSES DURING THE WEEK ONLY AND ON HOLIDAYS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS REALLY LEGAL OR NOT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED INTO BUT WE THINK IT'S A REASONABLE SOLUTION FOR BEGINNERS WHO ARE COMING TO CLASS DURING THE WEEK AND THESE LITTLE KIDS CAN'T REALLY, WELL, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONTROL THAT VOTE IN THE WIND.

SO TO BE SURE THAT'S WEEKDAYS AND ON HOLIDAYS ON THE WEEKENDS IS FULL LIKE YESTERDAY AT 11 I GUESS I WAS THERE THE SWIM AREA WAS FULL OF THE BEACH WAS A FULL EVERY SPACE WAS FULL.

SO I DIDN'T MEASURE ON THE BEACH, NOT OUT OF THE WATER, THE FLOATING AREA TO THE SWIM

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T'S PRETTY SHALLOW IN THERE. THERE ARE SOME BUOYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT TRACK THAT JUST STAY SLOW, GO SLOWLY, AND CAUTION. THE NEXT ITEM IS PARKING.

PARKING, THE LICENSE DICTATES AND THERE'S NO OTHER AMENDMENT WE CAN FIND FOR THIS IS THAT THE ACCESS ROAD BE USED ONLY FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING, NO PARKING THERE.

THERE IS STIPULATION, IT HAS JUST NOT BEEN FOLLOWED, THERE ARE ALWAYS CARS THERE.

ALWAYS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS THIS PICTURE SHOWS RIGHT ON THE SANDY AREA BUT ALWAYS BEHIND THE BUILDING THERE ARE CARS THERE ALL THE TIME. I MEAN, CONSISTENTLY, NOT ALL THE TIME. IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ALLOW INSTRUCTORS ONLY TO PARK EAST OF THE BUILDINGS AS LONG AS THEY ENSURE ACCESS BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES SO THEY PARK OVER ON THE SIDE. THAT'S A SUGGESTION FOR US THINKING THAT'S REASONABLE GIVEN INSTRUCTORS ARE GOING TO BE ARRIVING WITH THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT ETC. AND THEN, LIABILITY INSURANCE IS ADDRESSED AND THE LICENSE BUT WE JUST LIKE TO REEMPHASIZE THAT GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AND THE ACTIVITY AND THE CHANCE THAT THERE COULD BE AN ACCIDENT WHEN LEARNING TO SAIL. SO, WE SUGGEST LIABILITY INSURANCE SHOULD REGULARLY BE EVALUATED TO COVER EMPLOYEES, PARTICIPANTS, EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGED IN AND ENSURE THE CITY IS ADDITIONALLY NAMED AS THE INSURED AND PROTECTED. THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE SAFEST ACTIVITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS PROTECTED ON THAT ONE. AS I SAID, THAT'S COVERED IN THE AGREEMENT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LOOK TO OUR ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL TIGHTENED UP. AN UNSPECIFIED REGULAR INSPECTIONS IN THE AREA FOR THE FINAL LICENSE SHOULD BE DONE AND IF THE LICENSE IS NOT BEING DONE THE LEASES NULL AND VOID.

I THINK THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT FIGURE OUT WHAT'S REASONABLE, HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND THEN ENSURE IT GETS FOLLOWED. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ATTAINABLE. WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION? WOULD BE WELCOME.

>> COMMISSIONERS.

>> MADAM MAYOR. A COUPLE STATEMENTS IN QUESTION PROBABLY OR VICE VERSA.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THE WORK AND PUTTING INTO THIS AND PROVIDING SOME ALTERNATIVES.

I AGREE A GREAT PROGRAM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY IN A RESIDENCE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOMETHING NEW AND EXCITING ANYTIME THERE IS A CHANCE. THE LIABILITY QUESTION I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WITH VEHICLES. I UNDERSTAND THE LOADING AND UNLOADING OPERATION BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT WOULD BE HAVING ADDITIONAL VEHICLES ON PARK PROPERTY LIKE THAT LIKE I SAW IN THE PICTURE. JUST CHANGE AND PROBABLY THE OPERATIONAL PROTOCOLS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WOULD HELP OUT BUT WE CAN THOSE ISSUES CLARIFIED I UNDERSTAND THE LOADING AND UNLOADING PORTION OF IT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A PICKET FENCE I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE EARTH THERE'S A FENCE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY, IS THAT RIGHT MR. RIOS? ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S AN ACCESS ROAD JUST ADJACENT TO THAT. IT'S A ONE-WAY TRAFFIC, BASICALLY, PROBABLY UTILIZED BY YOUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS THE MOST FOR ACCESS TO THE PARCEL. TO MAINTAIN IT?

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU ARE CORRECT.

>> WE WILL IN TURN THOSE DETAILS OUT. I LIKE ALL THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ALONG THE BEACHFRONT? YOU TALKED ABOUT MAYBE ANOTHER BUOY LINE OR SOMETHING THAT DESIGNATED FOR CLASSES IS ALONG THE BEACH ALSO INCLUDED THE WATER IN THE BEACH WHICH KIND OF MARKET OFF?

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IT WOULD BE FROM THE SECOND BUOY TO THE SOUTH.

THERE'S ONE ON THE BEACH AND THERE'S A BUOY OUT OF THE EDGE OF THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SWIM AREA. AND SO, WE WERE JUST THINKING OF IT JUST TIME THAT FLOATING

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>> OKAY, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT ALONG THE BEACHFRONT, RIGHT? THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE FOR THE FOUNDATION TO ADVERTISE WHILE THEY'RE HAVING A CLASS.

IT'S ABOLUTELY.

>> JUST THINK ABOUT LIABILITY OVERALL SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND. THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M GLAD THAT THIS ACTIVITY IS THERE AND I THINK THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF GOOD FOR SOME CHILDREN THAT ARE UNDERPRIVILEGED AND HE SOMETHING SPECIAL THEY NEED TO FOLLOW WHAT THEY AGREED TO DO. I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT IN TERMS OF IF ARE GOING TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND IS GOING TO BE THIS NUMBER WANT TO STICK TO THIS.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT HAVING THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR WEEKEND THINGS IS FAIR, IT'S FAIR TO THE REST OF THE USERS OF THE PARK AND IT'S FAIR TO THE YOUTH SAILING FOUNDATION.

>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING.THANK YOU FOR THIS PROGRAM I WAS JUST OUT THERE.

A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW I THINK THE POLL OUT OF THE PARKING SOMETHING I HAD A CONCERN WITH AN LOOK LIKE YOU ARE ADDRESSING THAT. THE STORAGE OF THE BOATS AS WELL AS SOMETHING IS SO YOU CALLED OUT THEY WOULD NEVER TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING OR INSIDE THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES ITSELF WHICH IS A CONCERN OF MINE TO MAKE SURE THAT MOST OF THE BOATS ARE STORED INSIDE TO PREVENT VANDALISM. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF THESE RULES BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TALKS ABOUT THE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC DOWN I WAS JUST OUT THERE THIS PAST SATURDAY AND I KNOW WHERE THE TRUCKS COME IN AND THEY ACCESS TO PARK BUT OUT THERE USING THE SAME PATHWAY TO GET HERE AND PARKED THERE FIRST.

WHAT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION AND PROGRAM? I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMITTED THERE SO THAT WE NOT ONLY HAVE IN WRITING BUT WE ARE ENFORCING WHAT WE EXPECTING WHAT WE EXPECT WHEN IT COMES TO BEHAVIOR OF THIS ORGANIZATION UTILIZING THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND IT'S GREAT THAT THE KIDS ARE GETTING THIS GREAT EXPOSURE TO SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE HOBBY. IN THIS ORGANIZATION IS ALLOWING OUR YOUTH IN THIS COMMUNITY TO BE EXPOSED TO THAT. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

BUT I THINK I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THAT WE ENFORCE THE RULES IN PARTICULAR WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING AND SPECIAL EVENTS. I READ ANYTHING OVER 15 PEOPLE ETC. WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, CORRECT?

>> ANYTHING OTHER THAN CLASSES.

>> VERY WELL, THAT WILL LET US KNOW, TOO, WHAT'S GOING OUT THERE JUST IN CASE WILL BE ALERTED BY THE SPECIAL PERMIT THAT IS GIVEN. ENFORCEMENT IS MY THING, TOO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PERSON? IS IT CODED, POLICE OR COMBINATION OF BOTH?

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

CURRENTLY, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE OUT THERE ENSURING THE ACTIVITY THEN LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY WOULD ASSIST.

>> CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL BE THERE AND THEN POLICE BACKUP SO THEY ARE AWARE THAT THIS IS HOW WERE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS ESPECIALLY WITH THAT PARKING SITUATION OF CARS BEING PARKED OVER THERE.

>> MR. MIMS.

>> I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS OUT THERE EVERY DAY.

I KNOW YOU MEET ON ENFORCEMENT WHAT WE OPERATION.

>> I FOR ONE THING AT LEAST SOME OF THE LACK OF DOING WHAT THEY AGREED TO DO IS PART OF PEOPLE NOT KNOWING, PERHAPS, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS INCUMBENT ON THEM TO DO. OF THE REALLY GREAT IF THEY DID FOLLOW WHATEVER THEY AGREED TO. IT IS A PRIVILEGE WE ARE GIVING UP IN THE DOING SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY SO IT'S KINDA WE ARE BOTH GETTING SOMETHING SO HE WILL HAVE TO LIVE UP TO WHAT WE PROMISED. IN A PERFECT WORLD THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK .

>> I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT IN A. THE UNDERTAKING IS INVALUABLE TO THE USE INTHIS CITY . I STRONGLY ADVOCATE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE.

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>> EITHER ONE OF YOU WANT TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT?

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK , THE PARKS DEPARTMEN OVERSEES THIS AGREEMENT. YOU OVERSEE THAT FACILITY AND THEN IN THEORY YOU WOULD BE THE MESSENGER ON THESE VIOLATIONS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE? OKAY, SO IT FALLS TO PUBLIC WORKS TO ADMINISTRATE THE LEASE KEEP? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS? GOOD JOB, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. RIOS, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?

>> COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN YOUR PARTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS A DOVE HEADFIRST INTO THIS PROVIDED SOME SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WILL NOT WORK WITH OUR PURCHASING AND LEGAL TEAM TO DRAFT AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL REFER YOU TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT WAS MENTIONED TODAY AS WELL AS CLEANUP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE LEASE, AS WELL, WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I APPRECIATE PROGRAM AND AM GLAD THEY ARE THERE.

I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO HONOR THE AGREEMENT AND WE SHOULD HONOR OUR PART.

X MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, PATIENT PROGRAMMING WHEN COVID HIT.

BUT ONE THING THAT PRINCIPLE IS PROVIDED FOR DIFFUSE IS A REPARATION OPPORTUNITY FOR USE IN OUR COMMUNITY SO WHILE THEY HAVE A LICENSE AGREEMENT TO BE ON OUR PROPERTY THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY AN EXTENSION OF OUR RECREATION PROGRAMMING. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE THEM COME AS WELL.

>> GREAT, THEY PERFORM A VALUABLE SERVICE FOR OUR CHILDREN.

[c. Presentation of concepts for waterways policies by Marina Director Dean Kubitschek]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATION OF CONCEPTS FOR WATERWAYS POLICIES BY MARINA

DIRECTOR DEAN KUBITSCHEK. >> MR. MIMS.

>> WE ARE MARINA MANAGER DEAN KUBITSCHEK IS GOING TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF HIS CONCEPTS CALLING THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE FROM THE FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFECONSERVATION SERVICE .

DEAN HAS PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED CONCEPTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WITH REGARD TO OUR WATERWAYS. AS YOU KNOW, FOR PEARSON, THIS AREA IS VERY POPULAR AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT MORE MARINE VESSELS ON OUR WATERS AND WE WANT TO FIND WAYS TO NOT ONLY CONTROL THEIR LOCATION BUT TO ALSO LOOK OUT FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.

DEAN IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT ALL THAT TODAY I WILL TURN OVER TO HIM AT THIS TIME.

>> COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR. WITH THAT SAID, I STAND BY HERE MOMENTARILY AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO.

>> DOUBLE-CLICK THE TITLE OF THE PRESENTATION.

>> STANDBY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE I'VE SET UP HERE.

>> WE HAVE NOT SEEN YOU IN A LONG TIME AND WE ARE GLAD TO SEE YOU.

>> WITH THAT SAID, MY NAME IS DEAN KUBITSCHEK I WORK FOR FORT PIERCE CITY MARINA AND I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WATERWAY.AND AN OVERVIEW. INITIALLY, YOU HAVE HAD FLORIDA WILDLIFE COMMISSION APPEAR TALKING ABOUT THE WATERWAYS AS WELL. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS RUN TO SOME SLICER REPORT. SLIDES HERE REAL QUICK. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY.E HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT I AM LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR OVERVIEW BECAUSE OUR WATERWAYS ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE CROWDED AS THE YEARS GOES ON AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE BUYING BOATS. WHAT I SEE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE SELLING THEIR HOUSE AND MOVING ONTO BOATS. THAT SEEMS TO BE A TREND.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME VESSELS OUT THERE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS I WAS THINKING ABOUT IF YOU GO THE NORTH SIDE OF NORTH BRIDGE THERE'S A COUPLE SO-CALLED HOUSEBOAT BARGES THAT ARE TIED UP RIGHT THERE ALONG THE SHORELINE . SO, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION IS NOT WE ARE GOING TO END UP GOING BACK THE WAY KEY WEST USED TO BE 30 YEARS

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WE ARE NOT HAVING SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT THE OTHER CITIES ARE HAVING BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO MANAGE WHAT WE HAVE.

I THINK FROM THIS POINT ON WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT STARTING TO MANAGE WHAT WE HAVE AND LOOK AHEAD. MAYOR, YOU BROUGHT UP MONROE COUNTY, I WENT AHEAD AND PULLED HER FILE. THEY HAVEN'T DONE AT THE SAME THING.

THEIR FILE IS ABOUT TWO INCHES THICK ON THE PAPER AS WELL AS THEY TAKE THEIRS OUT TO 2030.

WITH THAT, THEY ARE LOOKING AHEAD. THURSDAY, I TALKED TO A SHERIFF MARINA SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE AND HE COUNTED 49 VOTES IN THE INLET AREA.

THIS IS GETTING TO BE THE SLOW SEASON RIGHT NOW. WHAT DRIVES THE BOATS AND HERE A BIG PART OF THE TIME IS AT THIS INDUSTRY ESPECIALLY OUR AREA AND THE MARINA ALL MARINAS HERE ARE VERY WEATHERTIGHT SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK AND FORTH FROM THE BAHAMAS SO A LOT OF TIMES INSTEAD OF THE WEST PALM BEACH THESE ABODES WILL GO AHEAD AND WAIT FOR PERFECT WEATHER WINDOW TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE CROSSING. DUE TO THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS I FEEL LIKE THE CAESAR TO ROUGH THEIR GOING TO JUST PULL OVER. WITH THAT, GOVERNOR DESANTIS HAS COME UP WITH A RECENT BILL, A SENATEBILL HE SIGNED . HE HAS IMPLEMENTED THAT IN A SEVERAL STUDIES NOW I THINK TWO OR THREE CITIES NOW HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS WHERE THEY HAVE ANCHORING INCLUDING ZONES. OR LIMITATION ZONES. HIS OBJECTIVE WAS WITH THE NEEDS OF THE VOTERS IN THE MARINE INDUSTRY. SO, AS PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING AND WANT TO STOP BY A SPECIFIC AREA THEY CAN, THEY CAN ENJOY THE AREA FOR ROUGHLY 45 DAYS AND THE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON AND THEN CANNOT COME BACK FOR 90 DAYS TO THE SAME AREA.

SO TO KEEP THE BOATS MOVING AND ALSO TO REMOVE THE HELP ASSIST WITH THE DERELICT VESSEL ISSUES.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR SIDE.

>> WE WILL GO TO THAT. WERE LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE PROTECT OUR INLET? I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AHEAD. I THINK FLORIDA WILDLIFE COMMISSION IS SPEAKING TO THEM I THINK THEY HAVE GOT PRETTY MUCH ENHANCED. THEY WORK TIGHTLY WITH ST.

LUCIE COUNTY TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS TO GO AND DO THE VESSEL REMOVAL.

THE OTHER THING IS THEY HAVE DONE AS THEY JUST IMPLEMENTED FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE GIVE THEM TITLE TO THE BOATS AND THEY GO AHEAD AND DISPOSE OF THE BOAT BEFORE THEY BECOME DERELICT. THEY HAVE TAKEN A VERY PROACTIVE APPROACH IF THEY THINK A VESSEL IS GOING TO BECOME DERELICT THEY WILL ADDRESS THAT, AS WELL. WITH THAT, THERE HAS BEEN A BIG CHANGE IN THE WAY ST. LUCIE HAS DONE THINGS VERSUS IN THE PAST. WE TALKED ABOUT IMPLEMENTING INCREASED LIMITATION ZONES.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE SEVERAL HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT WATER OUT THERE IT'S NOT ALL DEEP WATER. A LOT OF THAT IS SHALLOW. SO, TO ACTUALLY CREATE ANCHORAGE AREAS, MORNING AREAS, AND SUCH, THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHERE? SO I THINK LIMITATION ANCHORED ZONES WORK BETTER BECAUSE WE CAN DESIGNATE THEM AND SPREAD THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT. WE ALSO NEEDED TO, THERE'S ALSO THE GOVERNOR ALSO SUGGESTED A NEW LAW THAT STATES THAT ALL THESE VOTERS VOTERS TO HAVE BOOKS DEFINING WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THEY HAD PUMPED OUT. AND AFTER THE ON BOARD AND WHEN THE PUMPOUT EXISTS.

SO THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY CAN I SEE HER LOGBOOK AND THEY SAY, YES, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT THEY POTENTIALLY COULD BE CITED. BUT IN TALKING TO A LOT OF VOTERS THEY ARE NOT AWARE THIS I THINK AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT IS TO COME INTO PLAY

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THERE'S WAYS OF DOING IT. BUT THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF DISCHARGE CAPABILITIES ONE AND TWO IS CHEMICALLY TREATED AND THE THIRD ONE IS A HOLDING TANK WHERE PEOPLE WILL HAVE A DOCK WHERE THEY CAN PUMPOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT ANCHORING RESTRICTIONS ON THIS SLIDE HERE YOU JUST CAN'T BY LAW THE BOATS CAN GO AHEAD AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT IN THE CHANNEL WITH THAT SAID THE STATES HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARINA THE REPIR FACILITIES BOATS CANNOT ANCHOR WITH THAT ON THE SLIDE IN ALL ACTUALITY YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE HOW BIG THE AREA OF THE CITY IN IN THE WATER UNTIL YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE TO SEE IT ACTUALLY CONTROLS A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE WATERWAY HERE. SO THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS TO MANAGING ANCHORING. I WAS WE CAN LEAVE THE SITUATION ALONE, WE CAN ESTABLISH MORNING IT FEELS IF YOU CAN FIND DEEP ENOUGH WATER WITH THAT COMES OTHER LIABILITIES AND HAVING TO GET IT. AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS ESTABLISHING THE ANCHORS OF LIMITATIONS. I FOR ONE IT MAKES SENSE IT WOULD RESOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES YOU COULD TELL PEOPLE THEY NEED TO GO TO THE SPECIFIC AREA THEN WILL WE GET INTO ASKING PEOPLE TO GO AHEAD AND PULL THEIR ANGER AND SHIFT OVER TO THOSE AREAS. WITHOUT THESE AREAS MAY HAVE TO BE CLEARLY MARKED I THINK YOU WILL SEE THEM ON NAVIGATION CHARTS ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED.

REMOVAL OF DERELICT VESSELS I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WAS OUT THERE.

AT THIS TIME SWC HAS LOCATED THOSE FOR THE DEMONSTRATION. THERE ARE FIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFILIATIONS THAT YOU OVERSEE THE WATERWAY HERE.

EACH ONE I THINK ESSENTIALLY HAS A DIFFERENT CUSTOMS COAST GUARD DIFFERENT MORE SO THAN WC AND OUR POLICE AND SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS. WE TALKED ABOUT SEWAGE DISPOSAL'S. WITH THAT SAID, THERE ARE THREE TYPES.

I THINK THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO AHEAD AND USE OF THE PUMPOUT THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON OURWATERWAYS . THE SECOND OPTION AND EVERYBODY SAYS CAN WE GET A PUMPOUT BOAT? WHAT THEY DID IN THE KEYS IN MONROE COUNTY THEY ACTUALLY WENT TO A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE PROTECTION AND THEY HAD A DISCUSSION AND AN RFP AND ACTUALLY THE STATE OF FLORIDA ACTUALLY COVER THE COST OF THE PROGRAM DOWN IN THE KEYS. SO THEIR DISCUSSIONS I THINK THAT NEED TO BE HAD WITH FWC AND DEP. TO SEE IF SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE OUT THERE ALREADY ARE REALLY VIABLE FOR US. SO MY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THIS WATERWAY ISSUES A LOT OF ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH IS CREATE A WATERWAY PLANNING COMMITTEE TO OVERSEE THE WATERWAY BOUNDARIES TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WILL ASSIST THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ITS SHORELINE RESILIENCY PROGRAM. ESTABLISH LONG-TERM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE WATERWAYS AND MARINAS. ESTABLISH A BOAT WASTE INSPECTION SYSTEM AND CREATE A DESIGNATION ON THE CAUSEWAY ISLAND PARK.

I HAVE TALKED TO EVERY, I TALKED TO FWC ABOUT THE PART THAT IS HEAVILY USED AS YOU ALL KNOW BECOME A PUBLIC FIGURE PART. THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS OUT

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MY THOUGHTS IS THAT WITH THIS PROGRAM AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THE ANCHORING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RIVER WITH THAT WE DO IS OPEN UP THE CHANNEL AS WELL AS THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES ALONG THE SHORELINE THERE ARE MARINAS, RESTAURANTS, PEOPLE SWIMMING.

I THINK WE HAD AN ARGUMENT WITH FWC THAT ACTUALLY WE HAVE ALL THESE BOATS ANCHORING AND THE ONLY PLACE THAT IS OPEN IS OUR CHANNEL WHICH IS WHY IT FELT DURING THE WEEKEND AND I THINK AN ARGUMENT AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO LOOK TAKE ALL THESE INGRID AND CREATE ZONES DUE TO PUBLIC SAFETY. EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THIS IN THE DAYTIME BY THE WAY, LOOK AT IT AT NIGHT. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL. A LOT OF THESE BOATS WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANCHORING LIGHTS ON, DON'T. SO AGAIN, THAT BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. MY OTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO WITH THIS 10 YEAR PLAN IS BRINGING CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BUT NOT JUST THE WATERWAYS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACILITIES THEMSELVES. WHAT WE END UP DOING WITH THE MARINAS WE ISSUED PERMITS AND SUCH FOR MARINAS ONCE THEY GET BUILT WE DON'T GO INTO THE MARINAS AND SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MODIFY THIS THAT OR THE OTHER. WE TO MAKE SURE YOUR PUMPOUT IS WORKING. MONROE COUNTY THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A WORKING PUMP AT THE MARINAS. IF NOT, THEY ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

I AM TRULY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT ALL MARINAS AND IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD HAVE THESE SYSTEMS. THE STATE OF FLORIDA ACTUALLY WILL PAY FOR 75 PERCENT OF THE SYSTEMS THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE FOR THE 25 PERCENT FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER.I TALKED ABOUT THE WORKING PUMP OUT THE SYSTEM. WITH THAT SAID, I AM HERE TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> IF YOU KNOW HOW, CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PAGE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE COMMITTEE, AND YOUR MIND, WOULD THAT BE A STANDING COMMITTEE OR JUST A COMMITTEE THAT STARTS AND STOPS? ASK I THINK YOU FOLKS

>> I THINK YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE PART COMMITTEE.

I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THAT SOMEWHAT AS A PART COMMITTEE SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WATCHING OVER YOUR WATERWAYS LONG-TERM.

>> RIGHT. SO, A FEW YEARS BACK THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF MONEY ON STUDYING ALL THE WATERWAYS AND THE THREE COUNTY AREA.

OR MAYBE TO, JUST MARTIN AND ST. LUCIE, I THINK. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REVISIT AS A CITY IF WE ESTABLISH THIS COMMITTEE THIS COMMITTEE.

PERHAPS LOOK AT THAT AS A HISTORIC BECAUSE THAT WAS QUITE AN EXTENSIVE STUDY OF THE WATERWAYS. SOME OF THE IDEAS FOR THE WATERWAYS, SOME OF THE IDEAS OF PROTECTING THE WATERWAYS SO I JUST WANT TO CALL YOU TO THE ATTENTION THERE'S BEEN A THEY SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF MONEY ON THAT AND TIME AND IT WAS DOCTOR KIM, DOCTOR DELANEY, EXCELLENT REPORT. JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.

COULD YOU, CAN YOU GET HIM TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. PLEASE.

SO, COMMISSIONERS, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK NEXT? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. THAT'S CHOCK-FULL OF INFORMATIO. VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE PIECE OF

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DO WE HAVE THE TERRITORY?

>> IT IS I BELIEVE JUST AROUND THE MARINA ITSELF THE ANSWER TO THAT WE ARE CHALLENGED WITH CURRENTS. AROUND THE MARINA AREA POSES TO THE BRIDGE IS SIX KNOTS IT DROPS DOWN IN THE RAIN INTO THREE KNOTS. IT'S A LOT OF SHALLOW WATER AROUND THE MARINA.I CANNOT IDENTIFY WHEN YOU HAVE A MOORING FIELD YOU HAVE TO FIRST OFF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE AND GO AHEAD AND HAVE SOME SMART LAND AND THEN HAD TO GO PUT IN ALL THE HARDWARE AND THEN WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY INSPECT THE HARDWARE.

WE DID SOME LIABILITY IN THE MAINTENANCEASSOCIATED . A MONTHLY MOORING FIELD AVERAGE PROJECT ANYWHERE 350 OR $450 CERAMIC A LOT OF MONEY. PLUS, AND THE AMENITIES FOR THESE OTHERS IN THE MOORING FIELD TO DOCTOR DENISE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HAVE.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MOORING FIELD IS JUST NOT TALKING LIKE LET'S JUST GET THE LAND AND PUT SOMETHING IN THERE'S GOING TO DEFINITELY THE OTHER COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED AND THEN IF YOU DO THIS THE NEXT THING THAT'S GOING TO COME OF THIS, WELL, WE NEED A PUMPOUT.'M JUST SAYING IT CAN BE DONE. WHERE? WITHIN THECITY, AROUND THE MARINA , AT THIS TIME IN PERSON DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THE WATER.

MR. JOHNSON, KNOWS THE WATER PROBABLY MORE THAN I DO. A LOT OF THAT WATER IS SPECIAL ON EXTREME AND LOW TIDES IT GIVES ME VERY SHALLOW LIKE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR FOOT OF WATER.

IT WOULD TO BE LOOKED AT I CAN TELL YOU THE COST GROWTH COVE MARINA I HAVE ROUGHLY 14 MOVIES OUT THERE THEY REMOVED A COUPLE OF THEM. WHY? I AM NOT SURE. WITH THAT SAID, I THINK WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH OF MARINAS AND LARGER MARINAS IF POSSIBLE MAYBE BUILDING ANYONE THAT'S ONE WAY TO TACKLE THAT.

BUT THERE IS NO EASY ANSWER TO IT. WE CAN FURTHER INVESTIGATE DEPTHS OF WATER BOOK RELATE WITH THE MOORING YOU NEED A MINIMUM OF 10 FOOT OF WATER.

THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH AT LOW TIDE.

>> FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AND COMMENTS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT CREATING MOORING FIELDS AND THE LIMITATIONS I'M CONCERNED WITH THE LACK OF PUMP OUT FACILITIES AND PUMP OUT BOATS DURING THE SEASON THERE IS GOING TO BE HUNDRED VOTES IN THE PRIMARY CHANNEL OR ADJACENT TO THE CHANNEL AND HAVING BEEN A BOATER FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS I'M THINKING A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT ACTIVELY PUMPING OUT.

WE DO NOT HAVE A FACILITY TO GO TO THEM IN ESSENCE AS THEY DO IN MANY, MANY PLACES WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AGAIN MOVING FORWARD.

WHEN THE SERVICE IS PROVIDED FOR FREE, I GET IT THERE'S A COST ATTRIBUTE INTO THAT BUT BECAUSE IT'S FREE THE BOATERS TAKE A VILLAGE OF IT AND ILLUMINATES THE PROBLEM OF THE BOARD DISCHARGE, IN MY OPINION. I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR INPUT ON THAT AND THEN THE OTHER, LIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND HARBORMASTER WITH STAFF ETC. WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE, DO WE? THIS IS A FRACTURED SCENARIO OF ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW WITHOUT ONE DESIGNATED LEADER OF THAT EFFORT, I'M ASSUMING, IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF THE HOW IT WORKS CURRENTLY?

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE, DO WE HAVE A SEVEN DAY A WEEK OR FIVE DAY WEEK COVERAGE FOR THECITY OF FORT PIERCE ITSELF? NO , THAT'S NOT MY BELIEF. WE HAVE THESE OTHER ENTITIES THAT WE ALSO RELY ON FWC AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WE RELY ON THEM.

>> THIS WOULD CONSTITUTE A SPECIFIC AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY DISABLED AND OVERSEE ALL HARBOR WATERWAYS INTERESTS WITHIN THE CITY IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE BY THIS PARTICULAR STAFF IN THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, THAT DOES NOT EXIST?

>> THAT DOES NOT EXIST THAT'S ONE PART OF MY REGULATIONS.

>> WE HAVE A FORT PIERCEPOLICE PRESENCE ON THE WATER , TOO.

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>> IT'S NOT JUST ENFORCEMENT, IS MANAGEMENT, IS MANAGING THE ENTIRE ASSET AND ALL THE UNDERLYING ASSETS THAT GO WITH THE OPERATION OF THE WATERWAYS. I'M GOING IN THAT DIRECTION I KNOW YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE MARINA. DOES THAT EXPAND OUT TO THE ENTIRE NAVIGABLE OPERATIONS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS?

>> WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE ISLANDS WE ACTUALLY OVERSEE OURSELVES, ASWELL , AND KEEPING PEOPLE OFF THE ISLANDS THEMSELVES AND SUCH. THOSE ZONES WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT OUT THERE. SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT AND THAT'S WHY I PUT THE LIMITATION OF 10 YEARS I KNOW IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IT'LL TAKE COMMUNICATION WE WILL HAVE TO GET ST. LUCIE COUNTY INVOLVED AS A PARTNER BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR THIS NEWZONING . THE CITIES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO, VERO BEACH IS DOING IT BUT THE COUNTY OF VERO BEACH, INDIAN RIVER IS WORKING WITH FWC . I THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH WHAT IS AROUND US AND THEY CAN ASSIST US AND WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO GO AHEAD AND CREATE A STRATEGIC PLAN LONG-TERM THAT MAKE SURE OUR WATERWAYS DON'T GET MISTREATED.

WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW IN OUR WATERWAYS AND WERE VERY FORTUNATE. I GO BACK TO THE ISLANDS AND STUFF AROUND THE MARINA WE HAVE SIX DIFFERENT KINDS OF HARD CORAL GROWING NOW OUT THERE ON THE ISLANDS WHICH WE IDENTIFIED 250 DIFFERENT SPECIES THERE. THE SEAGRASS THE MANGROVES AND THE OYSTERS HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR, AS WELL. THERE IS A REPORT THAT WILL BE COMING OUT WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THAT REPORT IS WHEN IS NEAR COMPLETION.

AS FAR AS I'M I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN A HOME RUN FOR OUR AREA.

>> IT IS CLEANING THE WATER, TOO.

>> YES, THAT'S A CONDITION TO THAT, AS WELL. I THINK CREATING A PLAN, LONG-TERM PLAN, FOR OUR WATERWAYS AND HAVING SOMEONE OVERSEE IT ONE TIME I HEARD THE WORD RIVER KEEPER I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT WITH THE COUNTY RIVER KEEPER IT WOULD BE MYSELF SOMEONE CAN ENFORCE AND EDUCATE THE BOATERS DO THIS AND DON'T DO THIS, IF YOU'RE INCURRING HERE YOU NEED TO KNOW , LET ME SEE YOUR LOGO, BY THE WAY, MAKING SURE YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE . IN HIS LOG BOOK IS NOT UP TO DATE THEY HAVE 48 HOURS TO GET PUMPED OUT AND THEN CHECKED THE LOGBOOK. PTHERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO ON OUR END TO IF WE HAVE STAFF IN PLACE TO GO AHEAD AND LET THE BOATERS KNOW YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND THERE'S A RESULT OF THAT. I THINK WE WERE 90 PERCENT OF BOATERS ARE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY ARE EDUCATED WHAT IS RIGHT FROM WRONG.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOORING FIELD THE ONE IN MONROE COUNTY ALLOWED TO STAY UP THERE FOR 10 YEARS ON THE MOORING LINE. VERSUS THE ZONES YOU HAVE 45 DAYS.

SO IF YOU GO INTO MOORING FIELD AND YOU ARE THERE ON YOUR VOTE YOU LEAVE ABOUT THERE FOR 10 YEARS YOU CANNOT HAVE MAINTENANCE ON THE WATER OUT THERE THEY CANNOT CLEAN IT UP YOU CAN SEE WITH THIS ALL GOES DOWNHILL. SOME WERE GOING TO BE A PROVISION THAT THE MOORING FIELD THAT THIS BOAT IS BEING MAINTAINED BY SOME MEANS AND AGAIN YOU GET INTO THE LEGALIT . SIX I WISH THERE WAS AN EASY ANSWER, THERE IS NOT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK THESE FELLOW COMMISSIONS, MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS JUST LOOKING INTO A CRYSTAL BALL OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE COMING AND I THINK SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FORMING A COMMITTEE I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THOSE WHO ARE ON THE WATERWAY TO HELP US LOOK AT THIS.YOU MENTIONED IF IF YOU WERE TO ESTABLISH A MORE YOU WOULD RECOMMEND NORTH OF THE RIVER AND IT CLEAR THAT GENERAL AREA DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT, SIR?

P >> AT THIS TIME I CANNOT RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DEPTH OF WATER CAN HANDLE A NUMBER OF BOATS. YOU HAVE HEARD THERE IS UP TO

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>> SO THEY JUST PARKED THERE NOW AND STAY THERE I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW.

THAT MAKES IT HARD TO NAVIGATE OUT THE SAFETY OF THOSE THAT ARE SUMMING ALONG THE SHORELINE AND PEOPLE TAKE THAT AS A PATHWAY THAT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK. WE DON'T WANT TO MIX BOATS AND PEOPLE SWIMMING I GET THAT PART. GOOD OF THIS LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS HERE ALL OF THEM ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT I AM SURE.

IS THERE ONE OR TWO WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT RIGHT NOW, IN YOUR OPINION?

>> I AM HERE FOR DIRECTION. >> YOU ARE THE EXPERT ON THE WATER. WE NEED A COMMITTEE TO I AM MORE CONCERNED TO ABOUT THE SANITATION PUMP OUT ISSUE, RIGHT? IS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION VERY EARLY ON WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED AND I STARTED LOOK INTO IT AND MY CONCERN IS THE DOWNSLOPE OF THIS WATER, THE WATER IS JUST NOT THERE THE FISH DO NOT STAY IN ONE AREA.

I GOT ALERTED TO THIS OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE FISHING OFF SOME OF THESE ESTUARIES CANALS THAT COME THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.

SO FOR ME IT'S MAKING SURE THA , YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT HAVING THAT SPILLAGE LITERALLY RAW SEWAGE AND THAT CHANNELS OUT THERE, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE WE ALL USE THEM FOR SOME DEGREE TO SWIM AND WE NEED TO FISH OR SEAFOOD TO COME OUT OF THAT WATER.

THAT IS CONCERNING BUT FOR ME, ALSO, IS LOOKING AT THIS COMMITTEE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DERIVE FROM THEM THAT THEY COULD HELP US IDENTIFY AND WORK THERE. THINK EDUCATION IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I HEARD YOU SAY, TOO, WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS TO BE, OBVIOUSLY, EDUCATED.

>> MADAM MAYOR, TO RESPOND TO WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST STATED.

WE GIVE YOU A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS BUT ONE THING HE DID LEAVE OFF THE SLIDE IS ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ANCHORAGE AND INCLUSION ZONE. THAT SOMETHING THAT SIMILAR TO A MOORING FIELD BUT IT'S IT IS NOT THE SAME. IT WOULD BE A ZONE ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE INLET AND THEN CARRYING FORWARD ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE NORTHBRIDGE, AS WELL. THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION, AS WELL, AS HE TALKED ABOUT IT BUT AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS I THINK THAT ALL OF THESE ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER BECAUSE THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER. I THINK THAT DEAN HAS SOME TREMENDOUS REGULATIONS HERE BUT THIS IS FOR US TO GET THIS THING MOVING.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOPLAN, NO ADMINISTRATION , ALL WE DO IS RELY UPON FLORIDA WILDLIFE CONSERVATION IN OUR FINE POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY HAVE TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON .

>> IN THOSE ZONES I WENT BACK TO THE THREE SLIDES THOSE RECOGNITIONS FOR ANCHORING.

I AGREE WITH THE COMMITTEE, THINKING THE COMMITTEE PROBABLY SHOULD BE MADE UP OF CITY AND COUNTY FOLKS WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTS OR STAFF BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS TO ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE TWO OF US, ACTUALLY, AND THEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT LITTLE JIM THERE ARE TWO BATHROOMS THERE, TALK ABOUT A DINGHY THERE.

THERE ARE TWO BATHROOMS BUT LITTLE JIM COMES WITH. IT'S ALREADY THERE, IS ALREADY AVAILABLE. AND THERE'S A SPOT TO BRING A DINGHY UP THERE.

SO YOU CAN GET ON LAND. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO LITTLE JIM, I PROMISE.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ESTABLISH A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THAT WE LOOK AT THE ZONES, THE COMMITTEE CAN ESTABLISH OR EVALUATE THE ZONES LIKELY TO PEOPLE COMMENTING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, SO ALTERNATIVES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, MARINE CODE ENFORCEMENT. CAN OUR MARINA UNIT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLE THAT ASPECT OF IT ALSO? HAVE YOU HAD, WHO HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH?

>> MY SUGGESTION WHEN WE GET INTO THIS AND THE REASON I WAS LOOKING MORE TOWARDS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF IT I ADDED, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IMPORTANT, COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG OUR WATERFRONT. WE TALK ABOUT CLEAN WATER IS JUST NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE BOATS IT'S ALSO THE MARINAS OR OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THE WATERFRONT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M MORE APT TO SAYING CODE ENFORCEMENT VERSUS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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BUT WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD STEPPING STONE AND TALKING ABOUT IT.

WE ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THIS RESILIENCY PROGRAM.HIS IS ACTUALLY A PART OF OUR RESILIENCY IF WE CAN SEE THAT MAYBE SOMETHING IS TO BE DONE OUT THERE SO WE CAN GET A GRANT FOR IT FOR THE RESILIENCY PROGRAM. SO I'M JUST WITH THE WATERFRONT ON THAT, AS WELL.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. HERE IS WHAT I FEEL, WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED SO FAR.

WE ALREADY HAVE A MARINA UNIT AND A POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EXPANDED AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP THIS EFFORT. TO ME, IT'S NO DIFFERENT WHAT WE RELY ON IT IN THE FWC, OUR COAST GUARD FOLKS, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING ON THE WATER THEY ARE GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER WE ARE GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THELOCAL AGENCIES WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY, MUNICIPALITY , CITY OF FORT PIERCE, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET IN OR GO TO A ROAD OF, OKAY, WE ALREADY HAVE A TRAINING PROGRAM, RIGHT? WE ONLY HAVE A MARINA UNIT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WE CAN EXPAND THAT PROGRAM, LET'S EXPAND IT.

IF THEY CANNOT JOIN FORCES OR IF TWO INDIVIDUALS BECOME CODE ENFORCEMENT , MARINE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S FINE BUT I DON'T KNOW, I SEEM TO BE NOT EXACTLY THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED TO BE. I SEE THEM. POLICE DEPARTMENT EXPANDING BECAUSE THOSE ACTIVITIES THEY HAVE A DIRECT COMMUNICATION OR CAN HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH FWC AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, COAST GUARD, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, SO I SEE THIS WORKING AND EXPANDED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FRONT A LITTLE MORE ON THAT ALTERNATIVE BULLET POINT THERE ON THE SCREEN. THAT'S JUST MY CURSORY REVIEW.

WE WOULD NEED TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATION WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT VESSELS THEY HAVE CURRENTLY, WHAT VESSELS THEY MIGHT NEED IT LATER, DOES NOT MATTER WHO DRIVES THE VESSEL WHETHER IS THECODE ENFORCEMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? MANY TO APPROACH THE SUBJECT , GET THATMOVING FORWARD . I LIKE THE ANCHORAGE ZONE OPTION.

MORE RESEARCH IN THE MOORING FIELD ZONE I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE BUT WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH WHERE THAT MIGHT BE. BUT THE INCREASED LIMITATION ZONE WITH THE CRITICAL AND I THINK THE COUNTY THEY ARE GOING TO PLAY A ROLE IN THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD GO ALONG WITH THIS.

I THINK THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE EFFORT BECAUSE THEY ARE RESIDENTS, TOO, AND THEY OBSERVED THE EXACT SAME THINGS WE ARE OBSERVING.THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES .

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU MUST'VE READ MY MIND. I AM LOOKING AT THIS AND I LOOKED OVER THERE AT THE CITY MANAGER IN THE FIRST THING I SEE ALL THESE GREAT PRESENTATION AND I SAY, OKAY, THIS IS ASKING FOR A VOTE. THE SKIPPER BOAT AND SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS GOING OUT AND DOING THE JOB AND OUR COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST SAID MAYBE EXPANDING THE PLACE MARINA, YOU KNOW, SESSION. THIS IS HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT, GUYS. WE HAVE ALL DRIVEN ACROSS THE BRIDGE FOR DRIVEN TOWARDS THE BEACH. Y'ALL ARE BEING VERY GENEROUS WHEN YOU SAY 100.

THERE'S MORE THAN 100 BOATS OUT THERE. FOR BEING VERY GENEROUS AND WE SAY 100 THERE'S MORE THAN HUNDRED BOATS. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

BECAUSE THOSE 100 BOATS, DOWN HERE, HAVE A GREAT TIME TO GO BACK TO WHERE THEY COME FROM AND THEY COME BACK WITH OTHERS SO THEY WILL BRING OTHER BOATS AND WILL KEEP GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING TO MAKE THAT DOWNTOWN, THIS WHOLE

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I WANT EVERYBODY TO START THINKING WHEN I READ THIS AND I SAW THIS AND TO THIS PRESENTATION I SAW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME TYPE OF VESSEL.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME TYPE OF A VESSEL THAT IS FOR CITY COUNTY, COUNTY CITY, HOWEVER WE WANTED TO BE SO WE CAN GO OUT AND THE WORK CAN BE KNOWN THAT, OKAY, THE CITY DOES HAVE A VESSEL THAT WILL ROLL UP TO YOUR BOAT AND ASK YOU FOR YOUR LOG, LET YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE THESE IN GREEN IS ANCHORING ZONES THIS IS A 44. THIS IS A 44 SO I HOPE YOU ARE PACKING UP TO PAINT YOUR BOAT BECAUSE I WORK 90 DAYS, YOU, I'M JUST BE REALISTIC BECAUSE OF HER GOING TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE CREATED HERE IN FORT PIERCE AND I KNOW MY PARTNER DOWN THERE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HE IS A MONEY GUY AND A BUDGET GUY AND WE ALL ARE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE THAT DECISION AND SAY, GUYS, WHAT IS GOING TO COST US TO PROTECT WHAT WE HAVE?SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION ALL I HAVE HEARD WAS FORT PIERCE DOWNTOWN BECOMING A DESTINATION LOCATION. AND FOREVER FOR MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY THINK THAT THEY THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WITH VEHICLES AND CARS DRIVING IN FROM OF THE WEST FROM A 95 THESE GATEWAYS BUT THE WORD IS OUT TO THE VOTERS BOATERS THEY COME IN FROM THE ATLANTIC AND TO COME TO FORT PIERCE. DEAN, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE SO HATS OFF TO YOU BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE HEALTH YOU ARE ASKING FOR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS AND I THINK WE NEED NOW TO PROTECT TO WHAT IS COMING BECAUSE IF WE WAIT 10 YEARS FROM NOW WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST GIVE UP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TOO LATE. BECAUSE I HATE TO BET 1/4 BUT I WILL BET 1/4 ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A BET, NEXT YEAR LET'S GO OUT AND SEE HOW MANY BOATS AND WHAT THE NUMBER IS GOING TO BE OVER 100. AND SO, IF THIS YEAR WAS TOO BAD APPLES NEXT YEAR FOR BAD APPLES, IF YOU DO THE MATH BEFORE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM. LET'S JUST REALIZE WHAT IS. LET'S NOT TRY TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE BUCKET. WE NEED TO GET SOME HELP OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IN THE FUTURE. AND IF THAT YOU KNOW, IF WE

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IT'S MORE JOBS FOR RESIDENTS HERE. SECOND, WE ARE PROTECTING OUR NUMBER ONE ASSET IN FORT PIERCE IS THIS WATERWAY. THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE ASSET THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE IS COMING TO FORT PIERCE TO SEE. I'VE COME TO SEE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FIVE OF US APPEAR. NEXT, THEY DID NOT COME TO SEE YOU. THEY COME TO SEE THE WATERWAY. LET'S DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND LET'S GET WITH THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY ADVERTISES THE WATERWAY JUST LIKE WE DO. ST. LUCIE, SO LET'S GET TO THE COUNTY AND SAY, HEY GUYS, LET'S GET ON BOARD TO DO THIS. IT GOES BACK TO WHAT JEREMIAH SAID ABOUT LITTLE JIM.

IT ALSO GOES BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE AND MADAM ATTORNEY WILL LOOK AT ME THIS COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE BECAUSE ALSO I BRING UP THESE BOAT RAMPS. IF WE COULD THROW EVERYTHING IN HERE WITH THESE BOAT RAMPS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE WATERWAYS I LOVE THE IDEA OF A NEW COMMITTEE.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMMITTEES BUT WHEN A COMMITTEE IS FORMED IT HAS THE RIGHT TASK THEY ARE BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF US APPEAR. ALL OF US APPEAR, SO, I SAY GREAT PRESENTATION.

MUCH NEEDED. AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO MADAM MAYOR AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO GET THE HELP OUT THERE TO PREVENT WHAT WE KNOW IS COMING. LET'S BUCKLE DOWN AND DO IT.

>> THANK YOU, DEAN. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHERE WE START CREATING THE SWIMMING AREA AT CAUSEWAY PARK? DOES THAT REQUIRE THE COUNTY INVOLVEMENT OR FWC OR DO YOU

KNOW? >> I DO NOT KNOW I HAVE NOT DONE THE HOMEWORK I TALKED TO FWC ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT AND TRY TO GET THE BOATS ANCHORED THEIR FATHER AWAY.

>> BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO AND SO,, RIGHT? I HAVE SEEN BAPTISMS THERE ON A SUNDAY MORNING. SO THEY ARE USED TO. THAT CAUSEWAY PARK.

>> I WANT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS BRING THEIR KAYAKS AND PADDLE BOARDS THERE AND THE SWIMMING AREA USUALLY SAYS NO VESSEL AND IS VERY BROAD TERM SO A LOT OF FOLKS COME THERE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY LAUNCH. IF YOU CREATE A SWIM ZONE IS GOING TO BE WHAT IT SAYS I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL. I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THAT WITHOUT A LOT OF HOMEWORK. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT COME HERE.

>> GOOD POINT WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEWPOINT ON THAT, AS WELL. MAYBE WE DETERMINE A SIZE.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE ENTIRE LENGTH BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS AND SUCH THAT PLAY THERE. SO MAYBE WE JUST PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, 150 FOOT OR SO.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW. ANYTHING WE PUT OUT THERE WILL STILL MOVE THE BOATS MORE TOWARDS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INLET.IT'S THE OBJECTIVE IF WE CAN GET ALL THESE BOATS ANCHORED ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE NORTH SIDE I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO FEEL A LOT BETTER TRAVELING TO THAT AREA I THINK WOULD BE MUCH SAFER.

>> EXCEPT IT WILL INTERFERE WITH THE PEOPLE AT THE COVE THAT ARE PARTYING, PERHAPS.

MR. MIMS.

>> CAUSEWAY PARK, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, IT'S OWNED BY I THINK IT HAD A WEIRD NAME THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE SEAPORT AIRPORT AUTHORITY WHICH BECAME ST. LUCIE COUNTY SO, IN ESSENCE, THE PARK IS OWNED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY. ST. LUCIE COUNTY WE NEED TO THE APPLICANT AND WORK WITH FWC AND THE DEP TO ESTABLISH THE SWIM ZONE AREA IF THAT IS

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>> THE COUNTY OWNS IT BUT MANY OF THEM WE ADMINISTER, RIGHT? WE TAKE CARE OF THEM? DON'T WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? SO WE TAKE CARE OF THIS PART, RIGHT? BUT IF WERE GOING TO DO THIS THAN MEETS THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO BE THE APPLICANT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I WILL SHARE WITH YOU WHERE THE LINE IS DRAWN CAN YOU SEE THE SHADED AREA? THAT'S THE SANDBAR. IT'S VERY SHALLOW. IT'S DEEP WATER, DEEPER WATER NEXT TO THE BEACH, SANDBAR TO THE NORTH AND THAT IS DEEPER TOWARDS THE CHANNEL JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT HELPS THE SWIM AREA. YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON THE WORDING, THAT'S ALL.

>> I AGREE, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT IT IS I DO NOT WANT TO STOP KAYAKERS, DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. CAN'T DO THAT. YES, SIR.

I WILL HAVE A FULL ROOM, RIGHT?

>> I WILL FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER GAINES'S COMMENTS.

GETTING DEAN THAT ASSETS HE NEEDS TO MOVE THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM FORWARD.

THIS IS NOT A GREAT TALK, A LOT OF GREAT RHETORIC ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO WHAT HE NEEDS HARDWARE AND PERSONNEL.

>> THIS IS A WATERWAYS ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. YOU CANNOT DO IT FROM SITTING ON DRY LAND. HEIS GOING TO NEED PERSONNEL , PROPERLY TRAINED PERSONNEL, MARINA PATROL OFFICERS, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION IN ONE CAPACITY OR ANOTHER IN THE ASSETS TO GET HIM ON THE WATER. I KNOW THE PARADE THE SHERIFF HAD A BEAUTIFUL BRAND-NEW BOAT FOR $2 MILLION THAT WAS ENOUGH. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT, MIND YOU. BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICITY OF IT.

I'M GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION EARLIER THERE IS NO HIERARCHY IN PLACE.

YET THE STRUCTURED ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM WITH NO DIRECT OVERSIGHT, NO DIRECT CONTROL, NO DIRECT ORGANIZATION. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.R AS COMMISSIONER GAINES IS THE SAME. NO PROBLEM STARING AT US. I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOW WE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT WITH DEAN OVERSEEING ALL OF THIS IS GETTING HIM THE ASSETS HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. I FULLY SUPPORT MOVING THIS ENTIRE AGENDA FORWARD AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE TO DEPLOY ALL THIS WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

THE COMMITTEE FROM AN OVERSIGHT PERSPECTIVE I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.

WE NEED BOOTS ON THE GROUND OR ROOTS IN THE WATER IS A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT.

AND WITHOUT THAT I DON'T CONSIDER US TO REALLY HAVE ANY TYPE OFENFORCEMENT.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE OWNS A MARINE BOAT . I THINK I'VE SEEN IT A COUPLE OF TIMES IT MAY NOT HAVE THE STAFFING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND DEPLOY IT.

SO I THINK WE ARE REALLY MISSING WE ARE MISSING EVERYTHING HERE.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE .

>> AT LEAST I HAVE DONE A RIDE ALONG ON THE MARINE BOAT AND THE PLEASE VERY WILLING TO DO THAT AND YOU LEARN ABOUT THAT. SO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO I .

BECAUSE IT'S EDUCATIONAL. LOOKS LIKE WE WANT EVERYTHING AND NOW.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL SAY THIS. ME AND THE CITY MARINA WENT THROUGH AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD THEY HAD TO THE CITY MARINA UP AND RUNNING.

IT WASPERMITTED, THE CITY. IT WAS UP AND RUNNING AND WE BUILT A RESTAURANT .

SOMETHING'S TOOK AWAY FROM THAT. WE WENT FOR A PANDEMIC SOME THINGS WITH THAT REGARD. RIGHT NOW, DEAN IS FLUSH WITH CASH.

>> HE IS THE GO TO GUY.

>> HE IS TURNING AWAY BORDERS LEFT AND RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT DEAN HAS PRESENTED, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, ALSO BUILD A BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR THAT ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT AND MR. KUBITSCHEK IS VERY SKILLED AT DOING THAT SO THIS WON'T BE A PROBLEM. THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF YOU ALL SAYING, HE DEAN, LET'S GO, LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

>> ANYBODY AGAINST THAT? HEY DEAN, LET'S GO. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO KNOW?

>> SO CANCEL YOUR VACATION.

>> CANCEL YOUR VACATION, THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD JOB, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SEEMS IN A WAY THIS IS KIND OF OVERDUE BUT WE GO THROUGH AND WE WENT THROUGH IN TERMS OF BUILDING BACK TO MARINA AND FIXING ISLANDS AND EVERYTHING WE CAN SEE THAT THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT NOW.

>> MR. MIMS, HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, SIR, THE ENFORCEMENT ARM OF THIS PROCESS IS PAIRED WITH IT BUT SEPARATE FROM IT. YOU CAN PUT ENFORCEMENT AGENCY UNDER DEAN, ARE YOU?

>> WE CAN LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS RIGHT NOW THE POLICE ARE NOT ON THE WATER

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THEY CAN DO THE INSPECTIONS OF THE BOAT PUMP OUT SYSTEMS BUT NOT ONLY THE BOATERS AND THE ANCHORAGE AND INCLUSION ZONES BUT ALSO THE GREATEST WITHIN OUR CITY.

IF WE ESTABLISH THE CODE THAT RELATE TO THE REQUIREMENTS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A JOINT VENTURE. I THINK WE CAN DO DAILY OPERATIONS INSPECTIONS WITH FOLKS THAT ARE DIRECTLY REPORTING TO MR. KUBITSCHEK AND ALSO WORK WITH THE POLICE.

THEY CAN EVEN RIDE WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WERE GENTLY FOR DEAN AND ASSIST US WITH ENFORCING THE LAWS FOR THE CITY.

>> THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME AND SPOKE TO US THAT WAS THEIR CHALLENGE, ALSO. IT WAS PERSONNEL. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO THE VESSELS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE STRETCHED THIN AND THAT'S THE TRUTH.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THAT.

>> THEY SEEM TO BE ENCOURAGING US TO HELP THEM.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THEY NEEDED.

>> OKAY, WE ARE GOOD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KUBITSCHEK .

[d. Utilization of Local Contractors update by Purchasing Manager Gelencia Carter]

>> OKAY NEXT WE HAVE THE UTILIZATION OF A LOCAL CONTRACTORS UPDATE BY PURCHASING MANAGER GELENCIA CARTER .

>> MR. MIMS.

>> WE HAVE MISSED GELENCIA CARTER LONG TIME FORT PIERCE EMPLOYEE BUT SHE STAYS IN THE SHADOWS. SHE DOES NOT COME TO THE TABLE OFTEN.

BUT, AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION YOU WANT AN UPDATE ON THE UTILIZATION OF LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND GELENCIA CARTER HAS PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION.

>> MS. CARTER, WELCOME.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. I AM GELENCIA CARTER YOUR PURCHASING MANAGER COMING TO YOU TODAY TO SHARE A SNAPSHOT OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN OUR PROCEDURES. VENDORS ARE AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY AND ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE PROPER, PROFESSIONAL LICENSE CITY AND STATE LICENSES AND REGISTRATION.

AS WELL AS THE CITY REQUIRES VENDORS TO CARRY INSURANCE WHEN PROVIDING A SERVICE.

INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALWAYS STATED IN FORMAL AND INFORMAL DOCUMENTS.

INTERESTED VENDORS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH INSURANCE RECORDS WHEN RESPONDING TO A SOLICITATION ONLY SHOW PROOF THEY HAVE ACTIVE INSURANCE.

IF AWARDED THE PROJECT THEY MUST OBTAIN THE REQUIRED INSURANCE LEVELS LISTED IN THE SOLICITATION DOCUMENT. TYPES OF SOLICITATION TO THE USED BY THE STAFF ARE INFORMAL BIDS, REQUESTS FOR QUOTATIONS, I TVS WHICH REFER TO INVITATION TO BID, OUR FEES REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AS WELL AS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND I WILL GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE SOLICITATIONS ARE. THE INFORMAL BIDS IT CAN BE FORMAL OR INFORMAL. IF IT'S LESS THAN 10,000 IS INFORMAL IF IT EXCEEDS 10,000 IT IS LESS THAN 50,000 OR IS A CONFLICT PROJECT WILL BE QUOTED BY PURCHASING A DEPARTMENT MAKING THE REQUEST. THE AWARD IS TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. OUR ITB'S OR INVITATION TO BID THOSE ARE UTILIZED WHEN YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. TYPICALLY, AWARDED BASED ON WE ALWAYS SAY AWARDED TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. AFTER THEY ARE EVALUATED BY STAFF. A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL THEY UTILIZED WE KNOW WHERE WE WANT TO END UP BUT NOT HOW TO GET THERE. AWARDED TO THE TOP BASED ON THE EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT'S PUBLISHED PROPOSED DOCUMENTS IN THEIR EVALUATED THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS BEING THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND WORK. A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS ARE UTILIZED FOR PROCURING OF

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COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AS A MEANS OF INCREASING PARTICIPATION FROM LOCAL VENDORS WITH APPROVAL FROM THE CITY MANAGER I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE VENDOR REGISTRATION FORM ON THE PURCHASING WEBSITE THE OTHER FORM WOULD BE TO ENHANCE CURRENT PROCESSES BY ESTABLISHING A VENDOR LIST. NEW AND EXISTING VENDORS WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO COMPLETETHE FORM . THE REGISTRATION FORM WILL ENABLE THE CITY TO KEEP THE LIST OF VENDORS A LIST OF CURRENT VENDOR RECORDS ARE UP TO DATE AND TO HELP SECURE WRITTEN QUOTES TO UTILIZE THESE SERVICES FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A BROCHURE ON THE PURCHASING PAGE THAT HAS SOME INSIGHT ON HOW TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AS WELL AS THE BROCHURE ENCOURAGING NEW AND EXISTING VENDORS TO SUBSCRIBE TO OUR MODULE TO RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS FOR ALL FORMAL SOLICITATIONS OPPORTUNITIES. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> MS. CARTER, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT AND A LONG TIME BUT THE BIDS THAT ARE AWARDED THAT ARE ON OUR WEBPAGE, RIGHT? WE PUBLISH.

>> THE AWARDED BIDS? THEY ARE ON THERE BUT I DON'T THINK THEY AREEASY TO LOCATE .

>> WELL, I KNOW I HAVE LOOKED AT THEM IN THE PAST BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT THEM I JUST WANTED TO LET FROM THE PUBLIC AND COMMISSION EVERYTHING ALL OF OUR BIDS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU MS. CARTER FOR THIS.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS I THINK IT'S A VERY PROGRESSIVE MOVE FORWARD IN PARTICULAR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VENDORS. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY IS A QUESTION WE GET. WE HAVE A LOT OF TALENTED ENTREPRENEURS AND FORT PIERCE THAT ARE AROUND THAT ASPECT OPPORTUNITY. IF I UNDERSTAND YOU RIGHT YOU ARE LAUNCHING OR LOOKING TO LAUNCH SOMETHING ON 22 MAY THAT THEY WILL GO AND AND A REGISTERED AND WHETHER THAT BE A VETTING PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED MINIMUM DOCUMENTS TO BE ON THERE?

>> THE MINIMUM DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY JUST MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT , YOU HAVE INSURANCE.

>> BUT TO BE LISTED THERE THEY MUST HAVE THOSE MINIMUMS NOT JUST GO AND LET A BUSINESS PUT A NAME OUT THERE WITHOUT HAVING A BUSINESS TAX ID WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, RIGHT? IS OUT OF YOUR YOU SAY?

>> WRIGHT, W VENDOR REGISTRATION FORM AND IN ORDER TO BE REGISTERED AS A VENDOR THOSE DOCUMENTS WILL BE NECESSARY.

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD AND TO FURTHER THAT AS DEPARTMENTS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WHATEVER SERVICE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A DIRECTOR THEY CAN GO FOR AND PUT OUT AN RFP OR WHATEVER RFQ OR WHATEVER AND IF THESE BUSINESSES ARE SIGNING UP TO BE PART OF THIS THEY CAN BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED ON THESE PROPOSALS GOING OUT, IS THAT CORRECT?

P >> VENDOR REGISTRATION FORM IS NOT FOR US TO NOTIFY VENDORS. BUT IF THEY SET THEMSELVES UP TO BE NOTIFIED TO THE WEBSITE THROUGH THE NOTIFY ME MODULE THAT'S HOW THEY WILL RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS FOR ANYOF OUR FORMAL SOLICITATIONS. YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY, YOU DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GET EMAIL IS HOW YOU SET YOURSELF UP. THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL OF OUR BIDS, RFPS, THAT EXCEEDS $10,000.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND MR. MANAGER, THESE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FOR WHEN I GOT ON HERE. BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A TESTAMENT THAT WE CAN LOOK AS

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YOU GET THE TAX ID, PUT YOUR INSURANCE AND THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES YOU MAY BE AWARDED. I CAN STILL GO BACK TO WHEN I WAS FIRST BEING PASSIONATE AND I STILL AM ABOUT JUST PRESSURE WASHING SIDEWALKS IN CERTAIN PARTS.

THOSE BUSINESSES NOW NEED TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE AND REGISTER FOR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM BECAUSE OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THAT IS A BUSINESS. AND SO, I AM USING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT POINT BECAUSE I NEED THIS WORK, THE WORD TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN FORT PIERCE WITH THE STUFF WE NEED DONE. SO, THANK YOU.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THE REGISTRATION PROCESS. IF SOMEBODY DOES THAT WHAT DOES THAT ENTITLE THEM? WHAT KIND OF THRESHOLD IS THERE?

>> IS NOT A THRESHOLD THAT HELPS US CREATE A LIST OF DEPARTMENTS TO BE USED THAT ARE SEEKING CERTAIN GOODS AND SERVICES THEY WILL HAVE A LIST THEY CAN GO TO TO SELECT THOSE VENDORS THAT MAY BE LISTED.

>> BUT, IF THEY ARE NOT LISTED IN MY WAS ONE THAT NOT LISTED FOR THAT REFORM?

>> WHAT IS REQUIRED IS THAT YOU MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO REACH OUT TO BUSINESS OTHER THAN I GUESS YOU COULD SAY WITH WHAT YOUR CUSTOMER INTO USING BUT IT JUST HELPS THE DEPARTMENTS TO NOT HAVE TO DIG SO DEEP AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND VENDORS AND THE WHOLE INTENT IS TO USE VENDORS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE LOCALLY.

>> RIGHT, SO THE REGISTRY TO PROCESS WOULD NOT BE FOR SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY OR?

>> YOU CAN STILL FILL OUT THE REGISTRATION FORM.

>> MAYOR, I WANT TO BE CLEAR YOU ONLY NEEDED BUSINESS TAX NOT TO WORK IN THE CITY BUT IF YOU'RE PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE CITY.

>> GREAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT EDUCATION.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

[e. Discussion on Future of Micro-Mobility Program in Fort Pierce]

>> OKAY THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE OF MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> MR. MIMS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. IN YOUR BACKUP DOCUMENT TO SHOULD GIVE A PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR AND IN THAT PRESENTATION WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXISTING SCOOTER SHARE PROGRAM WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR 14 MONTHS AND WE TALKED ABOUT A TOTAL NUMBER OF TRIPS WHICH WAS JUST OVER 26,000 THE AVERAGE LETTER LENGTH OF 20 MINUTES OF THE TRIP DISTANCE OF TWO MILES AND THE TOTAL REVENUE SHARE WAS JUST UNDER $7000 FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME.

SO SWEETLY, OUR VENDOR HAD NOTIFIED THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THEY WERE LEAVING.

THEY PULLED OUT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AT THE END OF 2022 AND NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A SCOOTER SHARE / MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM. YOU'LL ASKED THAT WE REVISIT THIS AND IT MAY AND HERE WE ARE SEEKING YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH OUR MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM A.K.A. SCOOTER SHARE.

>> THIS COMMISSIONER IS NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A MICRO MOBILITY SCOOTER PROGRAM.

ON DISPLAY RIGHT THERE.

>> IT'S STARTED OFF WITH A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY AND THEN WE TURN IT INTO A SCOOTER PROGRAM. I THINK THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE AT SOME WAY AND LIFE AND I'M NOT SURE NOW IS THE TIME. I THINK UNLESS THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS BEATING DOWN THE DOORS AND COMING INTO THE CHAMBERS WHICH I DON'T SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS LOOKING FOR THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS IT WAS REALLY STRANGE, A STRAIN IN SOME SENSE ON CITY STAFF BECAUSE PHONE

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>> FOR OUR DRIVING RESIDENTS IT WAS KIND OF CREATED SOME ANXIETY BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO HIT A CHILD ON A SCOOTER OR A PERSON ON A SCOOTER, WHATEVER.

YES, SIR.

>> I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SOUND LIKE THE OLD MAN IN THE ROOM.

CANDIDLY, I THOUGHT THE PROGRAM WHILE WELL-INTENTIONED WAS QUITE DANGEROUS.

VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING OUT OF THE RESTAURANTS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE AND THESE THINGS ARE ZIPPING ALONG WE USED TO SEE IT ALL THE TIME SCOOTER DOWN AND CART SCOOTER INCIDENCES. I'M NOT SURE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THAT BUT IT'S CONSISTENT IN THE RUNNING COMMUNITY OUT ON THE ISLAND, WALKERS, ETC. THEY WERE GOING AROUND THESE THINGS ARE COSTLY ON THE SIDEWALKS. DRIVING TO WORK IN THE MORNING IT WAS LIKE A WAR ZONE OUT THERE WITH SCOOTERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS NOW IS THE TIME, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INPUT TO SUGGEST WE WANT IT BACK.IS THAT FAIRLY ACCURATE?

>> MR. MIMS.

>> WE HAD SOME FROM THE COMPANIES BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS USING THE SCOOTERS GOING TO SAILFISH EVERY DAY BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH INTEREST.

>> MAKE SURE THEY ARE LICENSED, REGISTERED AND INSURED.

>> MAKE SURE AN ADULT CREDIT CARD IS USED. I HAVE NOT HAD AN EMAIL OR ANY COMMUNICATION TO REINSTITUTE THIS PROGRAM. COMMISSIONER GAINES , DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> I WILL BE THE ODD MAN OUT I THINK WE DID TOO SOON AND I HAVE SEEN THE PROGRAM IN OTHER CITIES WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT AND I WILL GO BACK TO THAT MASTER PLAN OF FORT PIERCE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WHEN THAT IS HERE AND WE HAVE THE KINGS LANDING AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING HERE AT THAT POINT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AT IT BECAUSE THAT WILL ALSO HELP US WITH THE PARKING SITUATION THAT IS COMING. I HAVE GONE TO OTHER CITIES AND BRIEF MYSELF TO GET ON A SCOOTER.

>> I BET YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE IT.

>> TO GET THE SCOOTER OR TO GET ON THE BIKES, THE ELECTRIC BIK , AND IT WAS A BREEZE WHICH ONE HOSTING OF ITS RACE. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH OUR SCOOTER PROGRAM IS I THINK OUR AREA WASN'T TOO BIG FOR THE PROGRAM WASN'T TOO BIG FOR THE PROGRAM.

BECAUSE THERE WERE SCOOTERS EVERYWHERE ON THE AREAS ON THE SIDEWALKS AND I THINK ONCE WE REVISIT IT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN A CERTAIN AREA WHERE IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THAT AREA.

JUST ALMOST LIKE THE FREEBIE AND EVERYBODY SO POSITIVE ABOUT FREEBIE WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE ALLOWED THOSE SCOOTERS TO BE ALL OVER FORT PIERCE, SO TO SPEAK, AND THAT'S WHERE WE RAN INTO PROBLEMS. I AM JUST CAUTION US LET'S NOT GIVE UP ON IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING DOWN THE FUTURE THAT MAYBE NOT US BUT DOWN THE FUTURE WHERE IT COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION TO THE PARKING PROBLEM THAT WERE HAVE. MADAM MAYOR, TRUST ME THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE ON THOSE SCOOTERS OLDER THAN ME AND THEY WERE HAVING A BLAST, LAUGHING AND GOING ON WHEREVER HE WAS. I THINK AS THE TECHNOLOGY GETS BETTER WITH THE SCOOTERS I THINK THEY WILL BECOME A MORE SAFE. I HAVE TRIED IT AND I WOULD BE THE ONE TO SAY MADAM MAYOR , I WOULD BE THE ONE, I TRIED IN A SUIT AND TIE TO GO TO WHERE I'M GOING. I UNDERSTAND NOW MAY NOT BE THE TIME BUT LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT IT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT DOWN THE ROAD WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WERE TRYING TO DO IT'S GOING TO BE A NEED AND A PLACE FOR THE SCOOTER ESPECIALLY THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND WHAT WERE TRYING TO DO

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>> MADAM MAYOR, QUICK QUESTION, MR. MIMS, YOU SAID THAT I THINK WERE GETTING REALLY SPECIFIC HERE ABOUT THE ACTUAL SCOOTERS BUT WERE TALKING ABOUT MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE DID YOU SAY GOOD OTHER COMPANIES TALK ABOUT THEIR UT MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAMS?

>> JUST THE SCOOTERS.

>> I THINK THAT FEEL IS EVEN EVOLVING AS THE MICRO MOBILITY OPTIONS COVENANT LIKE THE SEGWAY IT MAY BE ALL THE SUBS ARE COMING I'M WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES IF YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EARS OPEN BECAUSE I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY MAKE IT A LITTLE SAFER, MORE BETTER, WERE DIFFERENT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE.

I THINK THAT SEGUES AS AN EXAMPLE COULD BE REALLY GEO PATH TO HIGHLIGHT CERTAIN TRAILS TWO THINGS WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FROM A TOURISTY STANDPOINT NOT JUST A FREEWHEELING YOU GET ON AND GO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO ACROSS THE CITY WITHIN A CERTAIN I THINK IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE. I'M OPEN TO THE IDEA OF A MICRO MOBILITY BUT ALSO THESE SCOOTERS WERE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE CERTAIN ONES WERE JUST LEFT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, LITERALLY. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I GUESS AS WE EVOLVE WE WILL HEAR FROM WORK WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT TO US.

WHAT I DO HERE IS CAN WE GET MORE FREEBIE CARDS ON THE ROAD? IF THAT FALLS UNDER MICRO MOBILITY CAN WE EXPAND THAT PROGRAM? ARE WE AT THAT POINT BECAUSE I THINK WERE GOING TO BE ABOUT A SIX MONTH LOOK BACK TO SEE HOW MANY TRIPS, ETC. AND I THINK WE MAY BE GETTING CLOSE, I AM NOT SURE. IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS.

>> WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU IN AUGUST AS FAR AS THE FREEBIE.

WE WILL HAVE ADOLFO. ADOLFO FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY HE WILL BE IN HERE PRESENTING A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP TO ENHANCE OUR LOCALIZED TRANSPORTATION OFFERINGS ON THE EAST SIDE OF U.S. ONE ESPECIALLY WITH THE FREEBIE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY OF THE CRA AND JOS? WAS THE COUNTY CAN WORK TOGETHER. I THINK WE ALL SEE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND I BELIEVE ST. LUCIE COUNTY WANTS TO BE A VALUED PARTNER.

>> THE TRANSIT? X YES, ADOLFO.

>> OKAY YOU CLEAR ON THAT, MR. MIMS?

>> YES.

>> OPEN TO IT IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> THIS IS THE TIME FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME MISS MARGIE EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THIS WILL BE A MORNING. MORNING.

>> 1529 AVENUE D.

>> WEEK WILL TELL YOU. YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? THIS IS NOT A DIALOGUE BUT WE WILL TELL YOU AS SOON AS YOU FINISH TALKING.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I COME HERE AND I LISTEN TO ALL OF YOU AND IT JUST FEELS GOOD THAT YOU GET ALONG. YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE BUT YOU GET ALONG AND, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT. AND MR. NICK, YOU JUST KNOW EVERYTHING.

SOMEONE COMES UP AND THEY TALK ABOUT SOMETHING AND NOBODY UP THERE SEEMS TO BE UNDERSTATED YOU ALWAYS COME THROUGH.AND I GOT TO SAY TO THE SECRETARY, MRS. CLARK, YOU GOOD BECAUSE YOU KEEP THEM GOING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

>> TO THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANT TO UNDERSTAND FREEBIE IS A LOCALIZED TRANSPORTATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE WAS FUNDED THROUGH OUR FORT PIERCE AGENCY FOR A DEFINED AREA UTILIZING FOR SMALL TESLA VEHICLES THAT CAN HOLD UP TO FIVE OR SIX PASSENGERS AND ONE ACCESSIBILITY VEHICLE THAT CAN HOLD FOLKS WITH PHYSICAL CHALLENGES. BUT THAT DEFINED AREA RUNS JUST ABOUT GULFSTREAM ON THE BEACH AND THEN COMES ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND GOES WEST TO ROUGHLY 13TH STREET AND SOUTH TO ABOUT

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YOU DOWNLOAD THE APP CAN YOU TELL WHAT YOU WANT TO GO AND THEY RUN FROM THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND THEY WILL TAKE YOU ANYWHERE WITHIN THE ZONE. IT HELPS PEOPLE WITH OUR TOURISM AND ALSO PROVIDES A NETWORK AND ADVERTISING SYSTEM FOR OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

>> CUTS DOWN ON PARKING OPTIONS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PARKING AND A GHOST NORTH AVENUEH . AND IT'S FREE. BUT, IF YOU CHOOSE TO TIP THE

DRIVER HE CAN'T. >> BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE APP TO USE IT.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN APP ALTHOUGH I THINK THERE IS A PHONE NUMBER.ALL RIGHT.

>> IT'S ACTIVE.

>> IT'S HERE, IT'S ACTIVE RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A CAR IN THE GARAGE.

>> WE HAVE THE CITY COMMISSION BOARD AND COMMITTEE UPDATES.

>> ANYBODY WANT TO START?

>> I GOT SO MANY DONE HERE. TREASURE COAST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WE MET WE ARE MONITORING ALL THE NEW BILLS. WE DO NOT HAVE A GUEST SPEAKER AT THIS TIME.

WE ARE DECIDING TO BE MORE OF A VOCAL GROUP AS FAR AS WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING OR A BILL OR NEW LEGISLATORS THAT IS COMING TO HURT WHAT WE FEEL HURT THE POWER OF CITIES LIKE OURSELVES WHERE WE ARE GOING TO START SENDING MORE LETTERS AND GETTING OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND TO SAY, HE, THE VOTERS MATERIAL ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BILL.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THERE. RETIREMENT BOARD MEETS THIS WEEK.

THE COUNCIL OF AGING THEY ARE STILL DEALING WITH SEVERAL CUTS OF FUNDING SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO SURVIVE AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE ELDERLY. THE CUT WAS COMING FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SO THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS TRYING TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE.

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY WE MET, WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO HAVE YOU GUYS A REPORT. AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THE COUNTY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD THEY ARE LOOKING TO OPENING THE VETERANS HOME HOME OFF OF OLEANDER VERY SOON SO LOOK OUT FOR THAT PRESENTATION. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET THEY HAVE THEIR, ONCE AGAIN I HAVE IT HERE.

>> THE LUNCHEON?

>> THE EMANCIPATION, HOLDING, THE EMANCIPATION DINNER ON MAY, HAD PULLED UP, GIVE ME ONE SECOND, 20TH, RIGHT. SATURDAY, MAY 20, FROM 11 TO 3 PM.

WERE ASKING TO COME TO THE RIVERWALK AND IT'S A CELEBRATION BRANCH.

COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET AND THEIR EFFORTS AND I THINK THAT IS MY RECAP OF COMMITTEES. LET ME SEE, ONE, TWO, THREE, OR SIX OF THEM.

>> COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON, WANT TO GO NEXT?

>> YES, TPO WE DO NOT MEET THIS MONTH I THINK WE NEED NEXT MONTH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT ANY CONVERSATION AND ENCOURAGE ALL THOSE TO TALK ABOUT THEM.

ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THAT. ANOTHER BIG CONVERSATION LAST MONTH AND THE MEETING WAS THE MIDWAY ROAD TURNPIKE ENERGY. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATELY OWNED PARCELS IT'S VERY MUCH-ANTICIPATED IMPROVEMENT TO HAVE CHANGED

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I THINK FLORIDA WAS THERE, THEY SPOKE, WE HAVE RENTED NUMBERS AND TOURISM.

WHAT I WILL TRY TO DO IS GET CHARLOTTE TO EMAIL THAT INFORMATION OUT AS FAR AS HER MONTHLY UPDATES TO ALL OF YOU. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING IN FOR TOURISM.

EXCITING TO SEE. AND THEN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE THEY ARE CONTINUING TO MEET EVERY MONTH. THEY ARE VERY OUTGOING GROUP, VERY POSITIVE GROUP, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF EACH OTHER AND INCLUDING SOME RICE THEATER ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THAT ASPECT SOME OF THE JOKES WHAT IS OF THAT HE REPORTS TO THE DVA RESUME WORKING IN HIS ROLE AS THE SUNRISE THEATER POSITION. VERY EXCITED TO SEE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR DOWNTOWN AND ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TOMORROW. I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE I RECEIVED SEVERAL, SEVERAL EMAILS AND A COUPLE PHONE CALLS THIS WEEKEND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS RUMOR IS GETTING STARTED BUT WE HAD VOTED AS A COMMISSION IN THE AGENCY SAID TO TURN DOWN BRIGHT LINE. RIGHT. YOU BROUGHT IT UP.

I WANT IT BE KNOWN THAT THERE HAS BEEN A NO VOTE BY THE CITY COMMISSION TO STOP NEGOTIATIONS OR TELL BRIGHT LINE THAT WE ARE NOT INTERESTED. WHOEVER STARTED THAT RUMOR OUT THERE PLEASE STOP. SO I WILL LET THAT BE SAID SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP REDLINE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THERE ARE A COUPLE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STILL UPSET ABOUT THE DECISION ON THE KINGS LANDING.

I HAVE SEEN THOSE GUYS OUT THERE SPEAKING. I ENGAGED THEM A FEW YEARS AGO BUT I'M NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN RECENTLY. I'M TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC TO TRANSITION THEIR UPSET AT US FACE TO LET'S BRING BRIGHT LINE HERE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

HOWEVER WE CAN DO THAT, I GUESS I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THAT INFORMATION MEETING MR. MIMS ENSURE THAT SO WE CAN ALL UNIFY IN THE FRONT.

>> TRAINING.

>> COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON .

>> I DON'T KNOW MUCH TO REPORT. IF YOU KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SPOKE OF THINK I MISS MY LAST FOREVER CALLED REGIONAL MEETING. THE SUPPORT AND AVIATION WE HAVE NOT MET AND WHILE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IS GOING TO BE A NATURAL THE COUNTY IS DOING MADAM MAYOR WITH THAT ONE. WE ARE NOT MET AND HE WHILE. PIT'S NOT MEETING SO WE MAY HAV TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER ASSIGNMENTS WE ARE SOMEWHAT STRETCHED THEN WE MIGHT NEED SOME REASON.

>> YOU MINGLE WITH THE WATERWAYS THING.

>> EXACTLY. THAT WILL BE IS FOR ME FOR NOW.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK .

>> THE BULLET DOES MEET THIS WEEK THE PARKING COMMITTEE WAS HAS ENERGIZED AS USUAL COOKING OF NEW PARKING IDEAS. I THINK WE HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS COMING FORWARD ON THAT DEVIL DRIVE LOT POTENTIALLY BUT WILL WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL INFORMATION ON THAT BUT I'M HEARING SOME POSITIVE THINGS. IN THAT REGARD. THE PARKING GARAGE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IS SOMETHING THE PARKING COMMITTEE WE DON'T GET EXCITED ABOUT HOW MANY THINGS ABOUT PARKING BUT IT'S REALLY A COOL THING. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AND GETTING RECOMMENDATIONS UP TO THE COMMISSION TO GET UNDERWAY. THAT'S A LONG TIME IN THE WORKS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

SUNRISE THEATER IS GEARING UP FOR THEIR 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND I SUGGEST WE CONTACT THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THEIR INCOME AND MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION RELATIVE TO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.

>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

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>> WE WILL HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THEM I'M INVOLVED IN THE GROUP BUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE EVENTS WEDNESDAY. NOT SO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO IT IN HERE AND PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC FORM AT THE THINGS IS ALL GOING TO BE KICKING OFF OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

WE SHOULD GET SOMEONE IN. THANK YOU.

>> GREAT, WE DID INSTALL A NEW FIRE CHIEF INSTALLATION THE NEW CHIEF IS JEFF LEE AND IT'S AMONG, IS FULL OF PAGEANTRY, FULL OF CORRECT, WELL, PRINCE CHARLES CORONATION, AND ON HIS KING CHARLES, EXCUSE ME.

>> THE CARD AND ALL THAT DID YOU HAVE THAT?

>> WE HAD A RED FIRE," A LABOR. HE IS NOW IN CHARGE AND CHIEF NATE SPARROW IS NOW RETIRED AND I THINK WERE GOING TO BE SEEN HIM HE'S ACTIVE IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AS MIT IS IN JUNE SO WE WILL BE MEETING THERE.

FWA IS COMING ALONG WELL DURING OUR BUDGET UPS PRETTY SOON. SO I WANT TO SAVE MOST OF MY REPORT FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES MAY 17 AT THE STAINLESS STEEL IS OUR LUNCHEON WHERE HOMEROOM HEROES ABOUT SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THE SPEAKER FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.

EVERYBODY IS INVITED. A LOT OF PEOPLE, FROM THE FOUR COUNTY AREA SO I THINK IF YOU CAN'T YOU WILL ENJOY IT AT NO CHARGE AND YOU LEARN A LOT ABOUT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND MEET OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR REGION. THE LEGISLATURE ADJOURNS.

HER THE BILLS THAT FAILEDARE GOOD FOR US.

PARTISAN LOCAL ELECTIONSAND FAILED, SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY FAILS, MUNICIPAL UTILITIES FAILED , SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FAILED ,RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS THAT WAS TO SPEED THEM UP, FAILED , SHORT-TERM RENTALS FAILED AND REVISED LIMITATIONS ON INCREASES OF HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FAILED. AND SO, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT PASSED LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT RIGS AND WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITY OPERATORS THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT WILL INCREASE OUR POOL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES FOR LOCAL OFFICIALS WE KNOW HAVE TO FILL OUT FORM SIX 41. FORM ONE.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT AFFECTED CITIES THE PAST. VISIT FLORIDA WAS ONE WITH $80 MILLION. THERE SOME OTHER FUNDING, TOO, THAT WILL AFFECT US.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ANY OF OUR LOCAL BILLS I'VE NOT HEARD FROM OUR STATE REPS TO SEE IF WE GOT ANY KIND OF LOCAL WORDS WERE NOT. YOU DON'T THINK WE DID? I THOUGHT WE WOULD HEAR IT.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I WAS ALSO LIKE TO THANK MR. MIMS ENGAGED US WITH OUR TALLAHASSEE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WORKS WITH US. BUT I WAS READING RECENTLY ABOUT THESPRINKLE LIST . ARE WE GOING TO BE MAYBE SPRINKLES HERE IN THE COUNTY? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM HIM ON THAT LIST? BECAUSE I CAN THINK OF THAT WASTEWATER TREATMENTPLANT COULD BE SPRINKLES MORE .

>> I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PERMISSION ON A SPRINKLING BUT I DO KNOW WE HAVE THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY APPROPRIATE IN THE BUDGET AND WE ARE WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR TO EITHER SIGN OFF OR VETO THAT. I'VE NOT RECEIVED .

>> THE REASON I READ THERE COULD BE A SPRINKLING OF 6 MILLION FOR THE TREASURE COAST AREA AND I DID KNOW WERE ON THE TREASURE COAST SOME AT LEAST WE KNOW WE ARE THERE BUT ONLY 6 MILLION IS A WHOLE LOT BUT WE WILL TAKE SOME MORE IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK MORE ON FORT PIERCE.

>> I WILL GET AN UPDATE. X THERE'S ONE OTHER THING IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME QUICKLY.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE NIGHT YOU WILL FORGET THE NIGHT WE HAD THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS MORE ABOUT THE MUSIC SCENE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID WE HAVE THIS

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I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS COMMISSION THINKS WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE SUBJECT OR NOT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK ANY OF US IS ANXIOUS TO GET BACK INTO THE I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME HELP TO DEVISE A SYSTEM THAT'S FAIR TO EVERYBODY AND ENCOURAGES OUR MUSIC SCENE. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OF THE COMMISSION IS IF I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. MIMS ON HOW TO DO IT IS BECAUSE WE DID WE GET SO PULLED IN BY THE LOCAL PEOPLE WE ALL KNOW AND WE ALSO WORKED IN A WANT TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY AND MAYBE SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE COULD HELP US IN TERMS OF DEVISING A METHOD TO BE ABLE TO ENCOURAGE OUR MUSIC SCENE AND ALSO BE FAIR TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS. IF THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN THAT WE COULD ASK MR. MIMS TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR US.

>> I WOULD BE OPEN, MADAM MAYOR , I SIT ON THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COMMITTEE I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO DELANEY AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS AND HAVE THAT BACK CHANNEL CONVERSATION BASICALLY FROM MR. MIMS WOULD ALSO HELP WITH THAT, TO THINK SPECIFICALLY THE TREASURE COAST THIS HAS COME UP SOMEWHERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BEFORE.

>> CERTAINLY, IT HAS. AND EVERYONE ISDEALING WITH IT AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR MUSIC SCENE . I WAS VERY PLEASED AND PROUD OF THOSE PEOPLE SUFFER ALL THE OTHER BUSINESS AND ESTATE TO TELL US HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS TO THEM.

I THINK WERE NOT DONE WITH THAT ISSUE. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> I WE WERE NOT FINISHED AND YOU HEARD ME SPEAK ABOUT IT BEFORE.

I STARTED DOING ADDITIONAL READING AFTER THE MEETING AND I'LL BE HONEST I WENT BACK AND LOOKED IN 2014 I THINK THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME HAVE REDUCED THE DECIBEL LEVEL I THINK IT WAS 2014 BUT WHATEVER IS DEVASTATED ORDINANCE AND TO BE HONEST I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS A GOOD BALANCE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASE RATINGS FOR ENVIRONMENT I THINK WE WOULD BE SURPRISED AT THE OUTCOME.

BECAUSE DEBRIS TO GO OUTSIDE AND TAKE THEBASE READING .

>> I WOULD NO LONGER BE SURPRISED I HAVE BEEN TOO MANY PEOPLE TELL MEDO YOU KNOW , TOO MANY PEOPLE TELL ME ALREADY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE DOING JUST THAT.

>> I THINK WILL BE THE BEST INTEREST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SUITS FORT PIERCE WITH THAT.

>> I DO TO >> I AGREE WITH YOU SOMEBODY HAS BUILT A BETTER MOUSETRAP HERE. IF WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM MUNICIPALITIES THEY ARE IN FRONT OF US ON THIS I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND SET OF US TRY TO RE-CREATE THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN .

I HAVE A FEELING WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON IT THAT WAS RECEDED WILL BE LIKE THAT'S THE AHA MOMENT SO I THINK ALL THE INFORMATION WE GET BACK WOULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

>> EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YOU CLEAR, INSTRUMENTS? OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? IF NOT, WE ARE ADJOURNED WE WILL BE MOVING OUT OF THE CHAMBERS AND TURN OUT THE LIGHTS.E ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.