May 15, 2023 City Commission Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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15. AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> IF YOU WOULD BOW YOUR HEADS.

OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE PRAISE YOU FOR ANOTHER GREAT DAY, LORD.

WE ESPECIALLY THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS MEMBERS IN THIS COMMUNITY OVERALL, LORD. FATHER, AS WE COME HERE TONIGHT, WE ASK THIS SPECIAL BLESSING ON THIS MEETING, THIS COMMISSION, AND ALL THE BUSINESS THAT GOES ON HERE.

FATHER, THE DAY AFTER WE CELEBRATE MOTHER'S DAY, SAY THANK YOU TO THE MOTHERS, GRANDMOTHERS, SISTERS OUT THERE THAT WE GOT TO CELEBRATE. THANK YOU FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THESE DAYS.

BE WITH US TONIGHT AND BLESS US IN EVERY WAY IN JESUS'S NAME,

APOLLEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

ABOUT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: PRESENT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: PRESENT.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: HERE MA'AM ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: HERE MA'AM ABOUT INTEREST.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: HERE MA'AM.

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES.

[a. Haitian American Heritage Month]

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> THREE PROCLAMATIONS.

FIRST IS HAITIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

WHOEVER IS HERE TO RECEIVE THAT PROCLAMATION, IF YOU WILL COME DOWN TO THE FRONT, PLEASE. WHEREAS, HAITIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IS A JUBILANT CELEBRATION IN THE UNITED STATES EMBRACING HAITIAN HERITAGE AND CULTURE.

WHEREAS, MAY 18 IS FLAG DAY IN HAITI WHICH CELEBRATES THE CULTURE AND HERITAGE OF THE HAITIAN FLAG BE WHO THEY ARE THEIR FOREFATHERS AND REPL REPLENISHING RESOLVE FOR HAITI'S? FUTURE.

LAND OF MOUNTAINS AND GIVEN NAME BY FIRST INHABITANTS.

WHEREAS, FIRST CELEBRATED IN BOSTON, MASSACHUTSETTS IN 1998, HAITIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH WAS OBSERVED NATIONWIDE IN THE MONTH OF MAY WITH PARADES, FESTIVALS AND SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.

HAITIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IS HELD TO HONOR HAITIAN COMMUNITIES AND FOR THEIR CULL COMMUTER AND HERITAGE WHICH HAVE IRMEASURABLY ENRICHED THE LIVES OF THE NATION AND STATE.

WHEREAS, AS EDUCATORS, AUTHORS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, ACTIVISTS, ATHLETES, ARTISTS, MUSICIANS AND POLITICIANS, HAITIAN AMERICANS HAVE MADE THEIR MARK IN EVERY PART OF SOCIETY AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE BETTERMENT OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

WHEREAS, FORT PIERCE HAS THRIVED ON MELDING OF IMGRANTS OF A PROMISE OF A BETTER TOMORROW. OUR VIBRANT HAITIAN COMMUNITY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE VITALITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I, THEREFORE, MAYOR BEAN DO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY AS HAITIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND URGE OUR CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE THE HISTORY, CULTURE AND PEOPLE OF THE REPUBLIC OF HAITI.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CELEBRATING AND PROVIDING THIS PROCLAMATION TO US AS HAITIAN AMERICANS.

WE ARE PROUD TO BE HERE, TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, TO CONTRIBUTE. YOU KNOW, WE ARE A STRONG COMMUNITY WITH TOGETHERNESS AND JUST PROSPERITY AND GROWTH FOR THE AREA. SO I AM TRULY HUMBLED BY RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE HAITIA AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF TREASURE COAST.

WE CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH EVERYONE SO WE CAN SEE HOW WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER OUT AND GROW OUR BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS ALIKE. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE

OPPORTUNITY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CONGRATULATIONS.

[b. National Public Works Week]

THANK YOU. >> NEXT THE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. SO WHEREAS, PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL BEING OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND WHEREAS, THESE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF

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WHEREAS R, IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM IN THEIR RESPECTED COMMUNITIES. WHEREAS THE YEAR 2023 MARKS THE 63RD ANNUAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, CANADIAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, LINDA HUDSON, MAYOR OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, THE WEEK OF MAY 21 THROUGH MAY 27 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CONGRATULATIONS.

WAY TO GO, GUYS. CAITLYN.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION. RECOGNIZING THE HARD WORK OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN DOESN'T OCCUR VERY OFTEN, BUT WHEN IT DOES, WE LOVE TO SEE IT. THEY TRULY ARE THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR CITY. WITHOUT THEM, WE JUST WOULDN'T FUNCTION. THANK YOU FOR HELPING US CELEBRATE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

AS OUR CONTRIBUTION, WE WILL BE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO IT THE INDIAN HILLS RECREATION CENTER AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL GET TO ENJOY THAT. BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE HARD WORK OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN. THEY DO IT EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAULT. AND THEY ARE AMAZING.

S THANK YOU BEEN. [APPLAUSE] MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL BE BRIEF.

THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THE I THINK CAITLYN DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH HER STATEMENTS THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT IS OFTEN THAT WE STAND HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW THEIR EFFORTS ARE OVERLOOKED AND NOT THOUGHT OF UNTIL THEY ARE NEEDED. YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE EXPERIENCED TWO HURRICANES THAT AFFECTED THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, AND AS THEY ALWAYS DO, THEY RISE AND SHINE AND THAT IS THEIR MOMENT WHEN THEY ARE RECOGNIZED ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND AT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, PUBLIX WORKS WEEK EVERY WEEK AND WE KNOW HOW HARD THEY WORK AND THE WORK THEY DO.

HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE THE TEAM THAT WE DO.

FROM OUR ENTRY-LEVEL EMPLOYEES TO SOME OF OUR SENIOR MANAGERS.

JUST THE FOLKS HERE IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT IS AMAZING AND WHAT WE HAVE. AS WE ARE LOOKING TO FILL KEY POSITIONS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WE KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT IS TO FIND SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE, WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE ONES THAT WE TO DO BE WITH US.

WE WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ARE APPRECIATED EACH AND EVERY DAY AND HOW VALUABLE THEY ARE TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

SO THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> A PICTURE. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: THEY ARE GONE. THEY DON'T WANT NO PICTURES.

THEY DON'T WANT A PICTURE, I DON'T BLAME THEM.

>> MADAM CLERK, MAY I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK WHILE THEY ARE WALKING OUT. GUYS, I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK.

I SEE IT EVERY DAY. EVERY TIME I SEE YOU GUYS, I THANK YOU GUYS. SO YOU ARE -- YOUR WORK IS THE FIRST WORK OR ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE COMES INTO OUR CITY SEES. SO I WANT -- I WANT TO BE SAY THANK YOU PERSONALLY FROM MY OFFICE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.

AND WE ARE WITH YOU. I DIDN'T GET TO SAY SOMETHING TO HAITIAN AMERICANS. I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID.

AS YOU UNDERSTAND, THIS COMMISSION IS SOMETHING CALLED ONE FORT PIERCE. AND WE WANT YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF THAT ONE ABOUT FORT PIERCE.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR

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THANK YOU, GUYS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY

[c. The American Legion Poppy Proclamation ]

>> OKAY, THE NEXT PROCLAMATION IS A POPPY DAY PROCLAMATION RECEIVED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION. DO YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: GET YOUR STEPS IN.

>> SO, WHEREAS, AMERICA IS THE LAND OF FREEDOM, PRESERVED AND PROTECTED WILLINGLY AND FREELY BY CITIZEN SOLDIERS.

WHEREAS, MILLIONS OF WHO ANSWERED THE CALL OF ARMS DIED AT THE FIELD OF BATTLE. A NATION PEACE MUST BE REMINDED OF THE DEBT OF WAR AND THOSE WHO DIED IN WAR.

THE RED POPPER HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A SACRIFICE OF LIVES IN ALL WAR. THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY PLEDGED TO REMIND AMERICA ANNUALLY OF THIS DEBT WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE. FLOWER.

I HEARBY PROCLAIM MAY 26, 2023 AS AMERICAN LEGION POPPY PROCLAMATION. AND IN THE ULTIMATE ABOUT SACRIFICE OF FREEDOM BY WEARING THE MEMORIAL POPPY ON THIS DAY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CONGRATULATION A.

>> ABOUT THANK YOU FOR HONORING NATIONAL POPPY DAY WITH THIS PROCLAMATION. I AM JOANIE TAYLOR, THE OF THE STEVEN GLADWIN UNIT 40 AMERICAN LEGION AUCTION YOU WILLRY LOCATED IN FORT PIERCE. COMMANDER BILL TAYLOR AND POPPY AMBASSADOR JOANIE PETERSON AND MANY OF OUR MEMBERS ARE PRESENT HERE AS WELL. THE MISSION IS TO SUPPORT THE AMERICAN LEGION AND HONOR THE SACRIFICE OF THOSE WHO SERVED BY ENHANCING THE LIVES OF OUR VETERANS, MILITARY AND THEIR FAMILIES, BOTH AT HOME AND ABROAD.

FOR GOD AND FAMILY, WE ADVOCATE FOR VETERANS, EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS, MENTOR YOUTH AND PROMOTE PATRIOTISM, GOOD CITIZENSHIP, PEACE AND SECURITY. MOST CITIZENS ARE FAMILIAR WITH SEEING VOLUNTEERS DISTRIBUTE POPPIES AROUND VETERAN'S DAY AND MEMORIAL DAY, BUT MOST DO NOT KNOW WHY C THE POPPY FLOWER OR ITS SIGNIFICANCE AND WHERE DO THE DONATIONS RECEIVED GO.

THE POPPY IF STORY STARTED IN WORLD WAR I WITH BATTLEFIELDS RAVAGED. LIEUTENANT MCCREA, A FIELD SURGEON, WITH THE RED BLOOMS WROTE A POEM IN CHANDLER'S FIELD OF THE SOLD INJURIES BURIED UNDER THE ABOUT POPPIES.

THEY BECAME POPULAR AT COUNTLESS MEMORIAL CEREMONIES.

IN OCTOBER 2021, THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY INDUCT IT AS THEIR MEMORIAL NOW WE ARE. MADE BY.

PAPER BY HAND IN WORKROOMS IN OVER 40 STATION.

AND THE WORKERS RECEIVE PAY FOR EACH POPPY MADE.

THE MATERIAL IS TURN INNED FREE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE LOCATED. THE HOSPITAL IS - THE PROCEEDS FROM THE DISTRIBUTION OF OVER 25 MILLION POPPIES ANNUALLY UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY AMOUNT TO MORE THAN $2 MILLION. EVERY PENNY OF WHICH IS DEVOTED TO VETERANS AFFAIRS AND REHABILITATION WORK BY THE AMERICAN LEGION AND AUXILIARY THAT INCLUDES AID TO THE NEEDY VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. SO THIS NATIONAL POPPY DAY, MAY 26. WHEN YOU SEE VOLUNTEERS DISTRIBUTING POPPIES, PLEASE REMEMBER THE MEANING AND BY WEARING YOUR POPPY, YOU ARE PAYING TRIBUTE TO ALL OF THOSE WHO DIED IN SERVICE AND ALWAYS WEAR YOUR POPPY PROUDLY.

MAYOR HUDSON, I HAVE A FRAMED COPY OF THE ABOUT FLANDERS FIELD

POEM FOR YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I APPRECIATE

THAT. >> AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT

OF ALL OF YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I AM GLAD YOU EXPLAINED IT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE YOUNGER THAN SOME OF US DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. AND GLAD YOU EXPLAINED IT.

>> ABOUT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHY AND WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE POEM. THEY SHOULD LEARN THE POEM IN SCHOOL, BUT PROBABLY DON'T. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[a. Email from Margo and Steve Kelley praising Danny Visconti for his excellent work as the director of the Indian Hills Golf Course and noting that they are always greeted warmly by Danny and the staff there, who make them feel like family.]

>> THE FOLLOWING LETTER ALSO HAD BEEN KEPT ON FILE IN THE CITY'S CLERK'S OFFICE. AN E-MAIL FROM MARGO AND STEVE KELLEY PRAISING DANNY VISCONTI FOR HIS EXCELLENT WORK AS THE DIRECTOR OF INDIAN HILLS GOLF COURSE AND NOTED THEY ARE GREETED WARMLY BY DANNY AND THE STAFF THERE WHO MAKE THEM FEEL

[b. Email from Arndrea Dampier thanking Fort Pierce Police Officers Damian Spotts and Jose Maldonado for the training they conducted at Pastor Dampier’s Church and for being professional but compassionate and knowledgeable but understanding.]

[c. Letter of appreciation from the Fort Pierce Police Department Centennial Committee thanking City of Fort Pierce, Public Works, Fort Pierce Utilities Authority and Causeway Cove Marina for all of the help they gave the committee for the “Back the Blue” celebration.]

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[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

MOVE ON TO ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS OF THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MAYOR HUDSON, I NEED TO REPORT AS PART OF ITEM 11-C. TWO GRANTS PART OF THAT AGENDA ITEM AND THE GRANT TO HUDSON HOMES IS BEING PULLED FROM THE AGENDA. THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE PROPER REGISTRATIONS WITH CITY OF FORT PI

PIERCE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WITH THAT

CHANGE, ANY OTHER CHANGES? >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

IS 11-C TOTALLY BEING PULLED? >> NO, SIR, JUST THE $5,000 GRANT TO HUDSON HOMES. THE GRANT -- A SECURITY COMPANY,

THAT ONE STILL REMAINS. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

OKAY, THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER CHANGES, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION WITH THAT CHANGE. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA WITH THE NOTE

TO CHANGES TO 11-C. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON:

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAD NO COMMENTS FROM THE

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY ITEM THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MADAM MAYORS, I WOULD LIKE

TO PULL B, D, AND E PLEASE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

[b. Approval to pay AT&T for invoices submitted to the City for the cost to design and install their utilities within the Right-of-Way of Avenue B from 13th Street to 8th Street in the the total amount of $77,137.48]

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> AS TO ITEM B, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL TO PAY TRNT FOR INVOICES COMMITTED FOR THE COST TO DESIGN THEIR UTILITIES WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF AVENUE B FROM 13TH STREET TO 8TH STREET IN THE AMOUNT OF $77,137.48.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I ASKED FOR THIS ITEM PULLED AND I WANTED TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND GROWING CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

WE ARE USING OUR HALF-CENT SALES TAX DOLLARS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO ROADS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS THE SECOND ROAD IN A VICINITY THAT WE HAVE DONE A MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION TOO.

THE OTHER ONE PRIOR TO THIS WAS 17TH STREET.

AND DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB. AS YOU RECALL, THEY TOOK A LOT OF THE OVERHEADLINES AND BURIED THEM.

AND IT PROVIDED FOR A VERY NICE, CLEAN, LOOKING AVENUE.

WHEN I SAW THIS, I HAD DISCUSSION WITH STAFF.

I AM GREATLY CONCERNED WITH THIS.

I WANT TO RAISE THIS TO THE POINT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS NOT TO DELAY THE PROJECT ITSELF.

I THINK WE ARE PROBABLY ON A TIMELINE.

STAFF CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT. I HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH MR. MIMMS, ETC\. BUT A BRIEF DISCUSSION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY TO EXPLORE PRECEDENT OUT THERE.

I THINK THIS TO ME SENDS THE WRONG SIGNAL.

WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE OUTSIDE BUSINESS INTEREST THAT DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT EXTRACT MONEY FROM RESIDENTS FROM SERVICES AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET US ANYWHERE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TYPES OF SERVICES AND MAY BE SOME INTERPRETATION OF STATUTES, ORDER NANCES AND, ETC., I WOULD LIKE TO.

I ASK FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US AS A COMMISSION, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT MORE WORK THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND TO -- TO FOR US TO BE BLINDLY TURNED AWAY FROM A COMPANY THAT IS HERE AND NOT ENGAGE US TO LOOK AT THESE COSTS.

WHEN WE ARE ACTUALLY PRESERVING THEIR STUFF BY BURYING IT SO PEOPLE DON'T ABOUT KNOCK DOWN POLES OR WHATEVER AND DESTROY THESE LINES. IT TWO SEEM TO KNEE THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I WAS DISTURBED WHEN I SPOKE WITH MY CITY MANAGER WE ARE NOT GETTING THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS GOING. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT TO SOURCE ATTENTION. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE A LOT MORE STREETS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE SAME THING ON.

AND I HAVE AN ISSUE CONTINUING TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THIS WAY TO SUPPORT A PRIVATE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES. AND -- I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. AND ISN'T THIS HAPPENING IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS TOO? THIS ISN'T COMPANY -- BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY INTERPRET THE LAW --

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: RIGHT.

I ASKED THE ATTORNEY TO DO THAT TO LOOK TO SEE -- I WANT TO GATHER FACTS AND I WANTED TO PULL IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK. THIS IS IT.

AND I WANTED TO GET YOU -- MADAM MAYOR -- I MEAN MADAM ATTORNEY

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>>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS EARLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

>> IT COMES DOWN TO THE INTERPRETATION OF FLORIDA STATUTES. THAT STATUTE PROVIDES THAT A UTILITY WHOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IS UNREASONABLY INTERFERING WITH THE IMPROVEMENT, EXTENSION OR EXPANSION OF A PUBLIC ROAD BEARS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PAVING THE COST OF RELOCATING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN THE CITY IS UNDERTAKING IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROADWAY OR AS -- AS INTERPRETED BY THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ADJACENT CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO IT IS REALLY GOING TO COME DOWN TO A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS WHETHER IT MEETS THE STATUTORY DEFINITION OF UNREASONABLY INTERFERING.

AND IF IT DOES, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED AND PROPER NOTICE THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DO YOU KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN CHALLENGED IN OTHER

JURISDICTIONS? >> I HAVE SEEN AT LEAST ONE CASE, MADAM MAYOR WHERE THE MATTER WAS DISCUSSED AND THAT PARTICULAR CASE INVOLVED A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES. BUT THE COURT IN THAT CASE REITERATED THAT THE STATUTE, THE WAY THAT IT EXISTS, MIRRORS THE COMMON LAW, WHICH REQUIRES THE UTILITY TO PAY THE COST OF THE RELOCATION. SO THE ANSWER IS, IT HAVEN'T BEEN SPECIFICALLY CHALLENGED IN THE WAY THAT YOU ASKED, AND THE COURTS COURTS HAVE ADDRESS IT FROM ANOTHER ANGLE.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: SO THAT -- I THINK AS WE LEARN MORE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLORE STAFF TO HELP US COME UP TO SPEED WITH THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ATTORNEY. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS. I THINK THIS -- AND KNOWING WHAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DO THROUGHOUT THIS CITY, IT CONCERNS ME.

THIS -- REMEMBER THAT -- INCREASING -- INCREASING IT.

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, OUR 17TH STREET PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY DELAYED AS A RESULT OF BACK AND FORTH OF WHO WAS GOING TO MOVE WHAT AND WHO WAS GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT.

AT LEAST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS WILL BE THE CASE UP FRONT WHAT THIS IS LOOKING LIKE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THESE DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM SOMEWHERE, AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND FOR ME TO PUT IT TO THIS USE, I AM SACRIFICING SOMETHING ELSE. HAND THIS CONCERNS ME.

I WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND OTHER MAN IN THAT, I AM READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

ABOUT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I HAD THE EXACT CONVERSATION FROM A TO Z WHAT YOU JUST STATED AND I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

I TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE MA MANAGER AND LOOKING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

WHAT HAPPENED ON OUR PREVIOUS PROJECTS ARE NOW TRICKLING DOWN INTO THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. AND I BELIEVE IT IS EVEN A DIFFERENT UTILITY COMPANY. SO HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO, TWO DIFFERENT CASES.

AND THAT IS ALL RIGHT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IS A PATH GOING FORWARD. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT TO TALK TO THE UTILITY COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY OWNS THE POLES IN WRITE THIS COMPANY MAY LEASE FROM. AND IT MIGHT BE -- ONE OF OUR POWER COMPANIES. THEY MAY OWN THE POLES THEMSELVES. SO EITHER WAY, I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND BRINGING UNIFIED EFFORT FORWARD TO GET THIS MOVING IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, WITH OUR SALES TAX DOLLARS THAT WE ARE BRINGING IN TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY WERE NOT SLATED FOR UTILITY RELOCATIONS. AND WE TOLD THE PUBLIC AND THE PUBLIC AGREED WITH US. AND THE PUBLIC HAVE A LOUD VOICE. AGREED.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: VERY GOOD POINT AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO THE TREASURE COAST HE IS LEAGUE OF CITIES.

IF SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE, IT HAS TO HAPPEN LEGISLATIVELY.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: AND I AM ON THAT COMMITTEE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYTHING ELSE? >> EXCUSE KNEE, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION SINCE IT HAS BEEN PULLED.

ARE WE GOING TO DELAY THIS UNTIL WE GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTSES AS YOU EXPRESSED THEM.

BETTER TO MOVE THEM OFF THE AGENDA BEFORE FURTHER INFORMATION CAN BE BROUGHT FORWARD?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO CUSTOMERS OR ANYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF THIS. MR. MIMMS. DO YOU -- CAN YOU HELP US OUT HERE?

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: AS FAR AS THE CUSTOMER BASE, I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT; HOWEVER, WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER IN THE ROOM AND I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS.

BUT I KNOW THIS IS A METHODOLOGY FOR US TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION IN A TIMELY FASHION TO LIMIT THE DISRUPTION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE OUR COMMUNITY WITH RECONSTRUCTIVE

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I WILL LET OUR CITY ENGINEER SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CAN YOU HELP US OUT.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, YES, THIS WILL CAUSE DELAY AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BROUGHT UP.

ON 17TH STREET, WE FACED NUMEROUS DELAYS ON THAT.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REPEAT OF IT.

WE WILL GET TO THE POINT IN THE PROJECT WHERE WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT. MOSTLY THE SIDEWALK.

WE CAN CONTINUE IF THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION, TO COMPLETE THE SIDEWALK AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT WILL BE HELD UP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WAS 17TH STREET THE SAME COMPANY, AT&T, THE SAME

COMPANY? >> NO, THAT WAS COMCAST.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR?

>>MAYOR: YES, SIR ABOUT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GO AS A COMMISSION.

JACK, REMIND ME OF THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AS WE RECONSTRUCT.

THIS ROAD, ARE WE -- ARE WE CURRENTLY MEETING CITY ROAD CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS? BASICALLY IS IT BUILT WITH CURB AND GUTTER AND REBUILDING THE ENTIRE ROAD OR IS IT SOMETHING

DIFFERENT? >> COMMISSIONER, PARTS OF IT THAT DIDN'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER.

SO NOW WE ARE BRINGING THE SECTION WHERE THERE IS A CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.

SIDEWALKS WERE NOT ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET.

THE WHOLE DISTANCE. AND SO WE ARE -- WE ARE THE COMPLETING THE PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS THE VEHICULAR IMPROVEMENTS. ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: DO WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE OF

BURYING UTILITIES. >> YES, WE DO.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: IT WAS ENACTED AABOUT PREVIOUS COMMISSION MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. DID YOU BRING THAT FORWARD AS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT YEARS AGO?

>> YES, SIR, IT HAS BEEN AT THAT WHILE.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: GOOD TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SO I AM GLAD YOU ASKED THAT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

AND WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF -- I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM NOT ONLY THAT WE ARE FACING BUT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE GOING TO FACE.

SO WE CAN WORK IN CONCERT WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO HOLD UP THE PROJECT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE FORWARD. WE CAN'T STOP THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT YOUR ANALYSIS THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING, I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WOULD BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO, MADAM MAYOR. I AM WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD BUT ANY OTHER PROJECT IN STAFF, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW UM FRONTED, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE QUEUE.

WE HAVE ROADS -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: WE MAKE

PROMISES. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: RIGHT. IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. AND GET SOME TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT COST HURDLE WILL BE, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO STOP THE PROGRESS. THE ROAD IS ALREADY TORN UP.

I AM READY TO GET CURB BACK IN AND THE STREET BACK OPEN.

BUT I COULD NOT LET THIS GO WITHOUT HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

SO I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS CONTINUED CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, WITH THE ATTORNEY, AND KAHN ENGINEERING NEEDS TO COME UP AND GIVE US AN UPDATE. WHAT IS NEXT.

THAT CAN BE THE CONFERENCE AGENDA.

HERE ARE THE STREETS AND BARRIERS AND HURDLES WE MAY NEED T THINK ABOUT. ABOUT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ONE QUESTION.

IT SAID INVOICES SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR THE COST TO DESIGN AND INSTALL. SO BASICALLY, HOW I AM READING IT AND WHAT I READ, AT&T SAID, WE ARE GOING TO DESIGN AND SMELL YOU GUYS HOW TO INSTALL OUR STUFF FOR $77,000.

IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING? >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: THAT IS NOT MY INTERPRETATION. WE ARE DESIGNING.

E ARE GOING TO DO IT. AND I WILL LET --

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WHY --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU WANT TO HELP US OUT?

>> COMMISSIONER, THAT IS JUST FOR THEIR UTILITY.

THEY CHARGE US TO DESIGN THEIR UTILITIES.

JUST TO ADD MADAM MAYOR AND MECHANICS OF THE.COMMISSION, JACK HAS A EXTENSIVE LIST OF PROJECTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN THE QUEUE.

I DO NOT SUGGEST WE STALL THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE OF THESE COSTS.

I SUGGEST THAT WE DOCUMENT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

WE COMMUNICATE VERY STRONGLY AND EFFECTIVELY WITH THESE UTILITY AGENCIES, AND I AM NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT I AM TELLING FROM YOU THE ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF LEVEL, IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. WE HAVE ONE GROUP THAT HAS AN INTERPRETATION. ANOTHER GROUP THAT HAS AN INTERPRETATION. AND IF YOU ALL AS A CITY COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT ANOTHER MEMBER OF YOUR STAFF TO DO SOMETHING, THEN PLEASE PROCEED, BUT AS FAR AS JACK AND

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MYSELF, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

GAINES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AGREE WITH YOU I AM NOT TRYING TO STALL ANYTHING BUT GET CLARIFICATION. MAYBE I READ IT WRONG.

I AM TIRED -- >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

ALREADY? >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: NOT TONIGHT, BUT WHEN I READ IT. AT&T -- I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO WHERE THIS COST IS COMING FROM.

THEY ARE TELLING YOU, MR. ANDREW, IT IS -- WHO ARE DOING THE DESIGN. WE ARE DOING THE INSTALL, RIGHT? WE ARE DOING THE INSTALL AND DESIGN.

WHO IS TELLING US IT COSTS $77,000?

>> COMMISSIONER, AT&T HAS REQUESTED THAT THE CITY REIMBURSE THEM FOR THEIR DESIGN COSTS AND THEIR -- THEY WILL -- WE ARE INSTALLING CONDUIT FOR THEM, AND THE REST OF THE WIRE AND DIFFERENT TRANSFORMERS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED WILL BE SUPPLIED BY THEM. SO WE ARE PAYING FOR ALL OF IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE BASIS OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE IMPROVING THE ROADS, IT HAS TO BE MOVED.

IT HAS TO BE. AND THEY ARE SAYING, IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IT HAS TO BE MOVED. IT IS YOUR FOUGHT BECAUSE YOU ARE IMPROVING THE ROADS, SO, THEREFORE, IT IS YOUR COST.

IS THAT SORT OF LAYMAN'S -- WITHOUT GETTING ATTORNEYS IN IT, LAYMAN'S PERSON UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, MADAM MAYOR. BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING IN SIDEWALK, IT TAKES THE PLACE OF WHERE THEIR POLES ARE.

THEIR POLE LINE HAS TO MOVE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FACED

WITH. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I GOT IT WHEN HE SAID -- THEY ARE DOING THE WORK AND REIMBURSE -- THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SENTENCE TO ME.

I GOT IT NOW. I WAS THINKING WE ARE DOING THE WORK AND THEY ARE SAYING, SINCE YOU ALL ARE TOUCHING OUR STUFF AND DOING THE WORK, WE STILL WANT THIS $77,000.

OH, I GOT IT NOW. I GOT IT.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, LAST COMMENT.

JACK, I AM GOOD. I AM NOT GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, I DON'T THINK. MY ISSUE WITH ALL OF YOU IS THAT THE PUBLIC OWNS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

ALL UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE A PERMIT TO BE WITHIN THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CONDITIONS THAT THE PUBLIC INSTALLS UPON THEM OR PUTS UPON THEM OR IMPLEMENTS UPON THEM, WHOEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT.

YOU CAN USE OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE RULES WHEN IT IS TIME TO CHANGE IT.

THAT IS MY FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE WITH ALL THIS WITH THE UTILITY COMPANIES BECAUSE I AM SURE THIS WILL COME INTO SOME RECORD AND I AM JUST GOING TO SAY IT BECAUSE IT WILL COME IN SOME COURT RECORD AT SOME POINT. MY ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN FACTOR THAT THIS GROUP, WHILE THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DESIGN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, IF YOU KNOW AND YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A DESIGNER, THEY ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE THEY ARE DESIGNING IT. HENCE EXACTLY WHAT JACK ANDREWS

IS DOING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHATEVER THEY

KNOW TODAY. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PUBLIC -- AS THEY ARE SAYING ON THEIR DOCUMENT, THE PUBLIC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EN HANDLING THEIR SYSTEM.

I HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE AND I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE IT GO ON THE RECORD SOME OTHER DAY AND OTHER DOCKET.

HERE WE ARE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BUT I THINK -- I THINK WHAT WE ARE SAYING AND WHAT MR. MIMMS IS SAYING, THEY EXHAUSTED THEIR AVENUES. THIS WILL HAVE TO BE LEGISLATIVE

OR COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I AM OKAY WITH THAT, MADAM MAYOR.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK WITH STAFF'S HELP IN EDUCATING US.

SO WE KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK FOR US IN THE LEGISLATURE IN TALLAHASSEE. I TWO LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM REGARDING THIS AND CONCERN.

AND I SIT ON THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND PLAN ON MEETING THAT AT THAT MEETING AS WELL AND LOOK AT THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 11B.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES,

[d. Approval of Recreational Trails Program (RTP) grant application and the grantee match in the amount of $18,043.00 for construction of the Moore's Creek Fit Park.]

MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY, ITEM D IS APPROVAL OF RECREATIONAL TRAILS PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT TEAM MATCH IN THE AMOUNT OF $18,043 FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE MOORS CREEK FIT PARK.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, I WAS EXCITED FOR THIS. SITTING IN STRATEGIC PLANNING ASKING FOR THESE TYPE OF THINGS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH WITH COMMUNITY. I ASKED STAFF TO PROVIDE SUPPLEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IT MADE THE PACKET.

WHEN I SAW THIS, I WAS EXCITED AND I WANTED TO AT LEAST MAKE

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THE NATURE TRAILS AND WALKS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: FRESH AIR.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: FRESH AIR AND ADD SPECIFIC EXERCISE EQUIPMENT. PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR THIS WHEN THEY SAW THE PAD INSTALLED BY THE BRIDGE.

AND THEY SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO KNOW WHEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE COMING AND WE SAID THEY WERE.

A FIRST OF PROBABLY A FEW MORE MOJS AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR FINDING THIS GRANT AND BRINGING IT TO THE LINEAR MOORE'S CREEK AREA. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THOSE CITIZENS WHO WALK THERE NOW AND TO CONTINUE TO WALK AND BRING OTHERS TO WALK TO BRING MUCH-NEEDED POSITIVE ATTENTION

TO THAT AREA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AGREED.

THIS IS EXCITING. I AM GLAD.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: WITH THAT, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE

THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 11D. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: SECOND.

>> HAD THE SECOND? >>MAYOR: COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES,

[e. Acceptance of the resignation of Tanya Earley, City Attorney in accordance with the attached letter dated April 20, 2023.]

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES,

MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> ITEM 11E IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE RESIGNATION OF TANYA CAN EARLEY, CITY ATTORNEY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ATTACHED

LETTER DATED APRIL 20, 2023. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR CAN, I WANTED IN TO PULLED.

A DISTINGUISHED HONOR TO WORK WITH YOU MISSEARLEY.

AND OUR CONVERSATIONS AND YOUR ENLIGHTENMENT TO MAKE ME A BETTER COMMISSIONER. NOT ONLY IN THE LEGISLATIVE ASPECTS OR QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS AND MAKING SURE I AM APPROPRIATELY LOOKING AT THAT. AND I WAS SADDENED TO RECEIVE THIS. BUT CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO COME FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY WELL TRAINED IN THE LAW. I HOLD YOU IN HIGH REGARDS.

AND I PERSONALLY WANTED TO JUST NOT THIS GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SAYING AT LEAST THANK YOU FOR SERVING FORT PIERCE AND HELPING US AS A COMMISSION DO WHAT WE ARE COMMIT TO DO TO MAKE THIS ONE KFORT PIERCE AND MAKIN OUR LAWS AVAILABLE TO THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MAYOR, IF COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DIDN'T ABOUT YOU WILL IT, I WOULD HAVE PULLED IT.

IT HAS BEEN A REAL PLEASURE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU.

JUST TALKING TO YOU. AND YOU HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR TEAM. PEOPLE LOOK AT THE FIVE OF US UP HERE, BUT YOU ARE A PART OF OUR TEAM.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT THE CALL.

I TOLD YOU I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

AND I SAID, NO. I MIGHT SAY NO TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW BUT I AM JUST SAYING -- KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE MISSED. I LOVED HOW IN OUR MEETINGS, IT WASN'T ANY SUGAR COATING. YOU TOLD US WHAT IT WAS AND HOW YOU READ IT AND YOU STOOD YOUR GROUND WHEN YOU TOLD US THAT.

SO TO THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE AND EVERYBODY LISTENING, WE ARE -- WE ARE LOSING A GREAT LEGAL MIND FROM THIS POSITION.

AND AS SOMEONE WHO ALSO WEARS AN ATTORNEY HAT, I KNOW ONE WHEN I SEE ONE. AND IT TAKES A CERTAIN TYPE OF ATTORNEY TO PRACTICE IN AN AREA DEALING WITH CITY GOVERNMENT.

AND CITY LEGISLATION AND ALL THAT STUFF.

TAKES A CERTAIN TYPE. I COULDN'T DO IT.

DON'T WANT TO DO IT. I KNOW WHAT SHE HAS TO DO.

AND I HAVE SEEN WHAT SHE HAS DONE TO PROTECT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS SHE IS SET IN HER POSITION.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM SADDENED TO SEE YOU GO.

WISHING YOU MUCH SUCCESS AND LUCK IN YOUR NEXT ENDEAVORS, AND WHEREVER YOU GO, I KNOW A GREAT JOB BY YOU.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MISS EARLEY, YOU AND I HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS.

EVERYTHING I SAID AND YOU SAID I TAKE TO HEART.

MEANT IF FROM THE HEART AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT.

WE HAD GREAT TIMES TOGETHER, NOT SO INTENSE MOMENTS OF

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I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SERVICE TO

THE COMMUNITY. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: MADAM MAYOR, AS THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, I HAD SEVERAL MONTHS TO WORK WITH TANYA, AND CANDIDLY I CONSIDERED IT TO BE A PRIVILEGE. SHE IS HIGHLY TALENTED, ARTICULATE IN HER POSITIONS, AND I PRIDE MYSELF ON THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY TALENT AS I SEE IT. AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF MY DAILY BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND TANYA IS A TRULY TALENTED AND SKILLED, NOT ONLY ATTORNEY, BUT JUST IN THE WAY SHE MANAGES HER OPINIONS AND AFFAIRS DEALING WITH THE COMMISSION.

I WAS -- IT WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU IN THAT CAPACITY.

I FEEL 110% THAT WHATEVER ORGANIZATION YOU SIGN ON WITH IS GOING TO BE MADE SIGNIFICANT LEAP BETTER FOR YOU JOINING THEIR STAFF. I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. WHATEVER FIRM GRABS YOU IS LUCKY

TO HAVE YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AGREED.

I HATE GOODBYES AND I AM REALLY SAD.

STILL SAD. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN OVER IT YET.

AND SO I JUST -- I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY AND YOUR INTEGRITY AND YOUR ABILITY TO ARTICULATE SOMETHING THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, NOT BEING A LAWYER. YOU SAY IT IN TERMS THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND. AND I -- I, TOO -- I THINK WE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE MISS YOU UNTIL YOU ARE GONE, AND THEN WE ARE REALLY GOING TO REALIZE THAT WE -- AND I AM VERY PROUD THAT WE HAD THIS BRIEF TIME TO GET TO KNOW YOU, BECAUSE YOU HAVE REALLY EDUCATED ME AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

TOOK THE TIME TO DO THAT AND AND WITH RESPECT.

SO -- IT FEELS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO YOUR OWN FUNERAL, ALL THE NICE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAY, AND YOU GET TO HEAR THEM.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WONDERFUL COMMENTS YOU MADE AND YOUR WELL WISHES.

IT IS NEVER AN EASY DECISION TO CHANGE JOBS.

AND IT HAS BEEN MADE ALL THE MORE DIFFICULT BY ALL THE WELL WISHES THAT I RECEIVED. AND I MAY BE GOING INTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT I AM -- YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY AROUND IF YOU NEED ME FOR ANYTHING. I WILL DO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO HELP MAKE THE TRANSITION ORDERLY.

AND I WILL JUST BE CHEERING FORT PIERCE ON FROM THE SIDELINES NO

MATTER WHAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR MR. MIMMS AND MISSCOX AND MY WONDERFUL TALENTED STAFF. THEY ARE MY SUPPORT STRUCTURE AND I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THEM.

AND THAT'S IT. AM.

AND I AM GOING TO BE HERE FOR AT THAT WHILE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF YOU YET.

>> YES, MA'AM. AS A TECHNICAL MATTER, IF -- WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION, IF YOU CAN INCLUDE MY LAST DAY AS PART OF THE MOTION. THE 90 DAYS PER MY CONTRACT WORKS OUT TO JULY 19. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ALL

BUSINESS. >> YES, MA'AM -- YES, SIR, YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: ON ME. MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM E WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE RESIGNATION OF TANYA EARLEY, CITY ATTORNEY IN ACCORDANCE WITH APRIL 20, 2023 UNTIL EFFECTIVE DATE OF JULY 19,

2023. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON:

SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WAS AFRAID THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK:

REGRETTABLY, YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY YES.

I AM GOING TO SAY YES. I DON'T WANT TO THOUGH.

I AM GOING TO SAY YES. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

REGRETTABLY YES. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES. >> THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. >> SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO OUR

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 23-030 An application annexing a parcel of land approximately 6.79 acres, located west of US Highway 1 on the South side of Weatherbee Road. Parcel ID: 3403-502-0015-000-5. SECOND READING]

ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE CITY LIMITS TO INCLUDE ONE PARCEL AT

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HIGHWAY 1 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEATHERBEE ROAD, PARCEL ID 3403- 502-0015-000-5, AND PROPERTY ON THE CITY TAX ROLLS AS OF JANUARY 1, 2024. THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES, ESTABLISHING THE ZONING DES I CAN NATION, STABING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION, FILING WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, APPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS HEREWITH. AND PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

SECOND READING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: A SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MOVE

THE APPROVAL. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

[b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) by applicant Brad Currie of EDC, Inc., to construct a 5,000 square foot restaurant/retail facility located immediately west of Walgreens at 25th Street and Virginia Avenue, more specifically at parcel ID: 2420-111-0001-010-1.]

YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES,

MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW BY APPLICANT BRAD CURRIE OF EDC, INC. TO CONSTRUCT A 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT RESTAURANT/RETAIL FACILITIES IMMEDIATELY WEST OF WALGREEN'S AND 25TH STREET AND VIRGINIA

AVENUE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING AND WE HAVE SEVERAL.

MISS EARLEY, READ THE GUIDELINES AND EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBER LISTEN TO THOSE, SHE WILL ONLY READ IT ONCE.

>> THE CITY COMMISSION SERVING A LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI JUDICIAL ROLE. WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY, THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAW-MAKING OPPORTUNITIES OF PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

ACTS AS A QUASI JUDICIAL, THE COMMISSION APPLIES POLICIES.

THEY ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING.

THEY MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE.

COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE DUTY TO CONDUCT IT LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS. THE COMMISSION MASS ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DAIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING. IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK, GIVE IT TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS ONE OF THE

UNIFORMED OFFICERS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MADAM CLERK, HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENT?

>> WE HAVE MET THE ADVERTISING. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ASK

COMMISSIONERS FOR EX-PARTE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: NO, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: NO, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: NO, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NO, MA'AM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE

WITNESSES. >> YES, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

>> I DO. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: PLEASE PROCEED. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR SITE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, INC. ABOUT BRAD CURRIE BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE. PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY ICN 2420-111-001-010-1. IN SUMMARY, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF AN APPLICATION FOR A SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW OF A 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT RETAIL, RESTAURANT FACILITY TO THE WEST OF WALGREENS AND 25TH AVENUE.

THE PROPOSD DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON ONE PARCEL WITH A FUTURE LAND USE OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND A LAND USE OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL AS WELL. THE SITE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL APPROXIMATELY.85 GIVE OR TAKE ACRES.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE ZONING IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL AS WELL, AS STATED.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WITH THE -- WITH THE ENTRANCE HERE TO VIRGINIA AVENUE. ALONG WITH THE SITE DATA ACCOMPANYING THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN OF THE PROJECT. ALONG WITH THE DETAILED PLANT LIST AND THEN THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING. AS WELL AS A 3-D DIAGRAM TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS PROJECT WILL FLOW.

STAFF RECOMMENDS ONE CONDITION, AND THAT IS A COMPLETION CERTIFICATION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, COST ESTIMATE AND BOND 13-6 SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF

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AFTER APRIL 10, 2023 MEETING, THE PLANNING BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH STAFF'S ONE RECOMMENDED CONDITION. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY COMMISSION IS TO VOTE APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW WITH THE ONE CONDITION. THE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY COMMISSION CAN GIVE TONIGHT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS OR A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE SITE.

NO, MOVE FORWARD. THERE.

IS THIS A SHARED CURB CUT WITH WALGREENS?

>> I BELIEVE SO, YES. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE NOW, THE CURB CUT?

>> YES. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THANK

YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

OKAY, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE. MR. CURRIE, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD EVENING, FOR THE RECORD, BRAD CURRIE WITH EDC.

I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS

FOR STAFF? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I AM OKAY WITH THE CONDITION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GET THE APPROVAL AND MOVE FORWARD

GETTING IT BUILT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OF THE

APPLICANT? >> THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD? ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN

DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: MADAM MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS

STIPULATED BY STAFF. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL

PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES.

>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE A QUASI JUDICIAL

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) by applicant Brad Currie with EDC, Inc., to construct four office/flex space buildings totaling 40,500 square feet located at the east side of S. 7th Street, north of Farmers Market Road, more specifically at parcel ID: 2427-601-0031-000-8.]

>>MAYOR HUDSON: HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET.

>> THE ADVERTISING HAVE BEEN MET.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ASK COMMISSIONERS FOR EX-PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: NO.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: NO, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: NO, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM, I SPOKEN TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AND ALSO GOING TO SPEAK TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY, I BELIEVE, THAT THEY OWN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT OF

THIS DEVELOPMENT. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NO, MA'AM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESS. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE

TRUTH. >> I DO.

>> THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: PROCEEDS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR K&K PROPERTY SITE PLAN.

DESIGN AND ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION, INC. WITH BRAD CURRIE BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE. PROPERTY OWNER IS KEN FORT PIERCECRAY. PARCEL NUMBER 2427-601-0031-000-8. SITE PLAN AND DESIGN REP VIEW OF FOUR OFFICE FLEX SPACE BUILDINGS TOTALING 40,500 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH 7TH STREET AND NORTH OF FARFARMERS MARK ROAD.

FUTURE LAND USE OF INDUSTRIAL AND ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL THAT IS 4.01 GIVE OR TAKE ACRES. THIS IS U.S. HIGHWAY 1 HERE, 7TH STREET AND FARMER'S MARKET ROAD. THE FUTURE LAND USE AS STATED IS INDUSTRIAL. THE ZONING AS WELL IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WITH THIS BEING THE FOUR BUILDINGS IN CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS THE SITE DATA THAT CORRESPONDS TO THIS SITE PLAN. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN BEING PROPOSED, AS WELL AS THE PLANT LIST.

THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED FLEX SPACE.

FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE ARE TWO.

ONE A COMPLETION CERTIFICATION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, COST ESTIMATE AND BOND RELATED TO 13-6 SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATION -- CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED FOR THE SITE. AND TWO, COORDINATION WITH IF

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THE PLANNING BOARD DECISION WAS TO UNANIMOUSLY VOTE FOR APPROVAL WITH STAFF'S TWO RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS TO HAVE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WITH THE TWO CONDITIONS.

THE CITY COMMISSION CAN GIVE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE OF BEING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS OR A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OF

STAFF? >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I HAVE JUST ONE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING.

THAT ONE. IT A STORAGE UNIT TYPE THICK OR INDIVIDUAL OFFICES INSIDE THESE BUILDINGS, IF YOU KNOW.

>> FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, IT IS NOT STORAGE AT ALL, IT IS MORE OF A FLEX SPACE FOR OFFICES, POSSIBLY, OR FOR -- FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY. ABOUT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER BROD

BRODERICK. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.

I AM ASSUMING IT IS PROBABLY HERE SOMEWHERE, BUT I CAN'T FIND WHERE YOUR DUMPSTER LOCATIONS ARE.

>> THE DUMP IS ADMINISTER LOCATIONS ARE IN BETWEEN THE BUILDING. THEY ARE RIGHT ON THE PLAN.

>> I SHOT DOWN VERSIONS OF THE STUFF ON AN IPAD.

>> YEAH, BLURRY. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: BIG --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT, ME TOO. THAT IS MY ONLY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY? OKAY. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. MR. CURRIE, WELCOME AGAIN.

>> GOOD EVENING, FOR THE, BRAD CURRIE WITH EDC.

I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

STAFF DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. AND I TOLD COMMISSIONER BRODERICK THAT I ALWAYS ABOUT BRING A FULL-SIZED COPY TO THE MEETING. IF YOU NEED TO SEE IT, IT IS

ALWAYS AVAILABLE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: OR

STRONGER GLASSES. >> OFFICE FLEX SPACE IS THE TERMINOLOGY WE ARE USING AND BE A START-UP EVER THE INDIVIDUALS.

AND PEOPLE WHO PREVIOUSLY WORKED OUT OF THEIR HOUSE AND A LITTLE MORE SPACE AND OFFICE. IT COULD BE COMPLETELY OPEN ON THE INSIDE FOR MANUFACTURING AND STORAGE, WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING AND CONSTRUCT A SMALL OFFICE IN THIS.

COULD BE EITHER OR, HOWEVER IT IS WORKED OUT.

NOT SELF-STORAGE AND PEOPLE WORKING AND PAYING TAXES AND

HELPING ACCOUNT COMMUNITY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY QUESTIONS

OF THE APPLICANT? >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MR. CURRIE, YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSION ON THIS AND TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHAT -- WHAT ARE YOUR TRIP CALCULATIONS SHOWING AS FAR AS THIS FLEX SPACE.

>> PRETTY MINIMAL TRIPS. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, COMMISSIONERS. THE ISSUES WITH THE COUNTY HAS TO DUE WITH SOUTH 7TH STREET. WE HAD SHOWN THE STRIPS T TO OLEANDER TO THE WEST. I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE ROAD

ABOUT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON:

WAGNER. >> WE SHOWED GOING FROM WAGNER TO OLEDANDER. AND THE COUNTY IS QUESTIONING IF THAT MAKES SENSE OR ALL THE TRIPS ON MARKET STREET.

I HAVE IT BACK TO MY FILE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YOU EXPLAINED IT IN THE MINIMUM FORMAT WHERE YOU WERE CONNECTING. SO I HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH STAFF ON THIS TOO. CAN YOU DESCRIBE 7TH STREET OVERALL FOR ME FROM FARMERS MARKET WHEREVER IT ENDS UP TO

THE NORTH? >> 7TH STREET IS A ABOUT ROADWAY. THE COUNTY SAYS SUBSTANDARD ROADWAY AND DOESN'T MEET THEIR STANDARDS.

ISSUES WITH 7TH STREET. THE AERIAL THAT RYAN SHOWED DID SHOW A COUPLE HUNDRED HOMES THAT USE 7TH STREET TO ACT SPES AND MILLIONS ROAD TODAY. THE MILLIONS IS NOT THE ONLY ISSUE, THERE IS A PRETTY DEEP CANAL ON THE EAST SIDE OF 7TH STREET THAT CAN POSE A PROBLEM IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO RECONSTRUCTION. FURTHER SOUTH TO THE PROPERTY, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS LIMITED. YOU GO ON THE WEST SIDE OF 7TH STREET, THERE ARE STRUCTURES AND HOUSING AND FENCING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. 7TH STREET DOES PRESENT SOME CHALLENGES BUT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY TO HELPFULLY GET THAT

WORKED OUT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THAT IS MY CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT.

BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ROADS -- THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE GOT, YOU KNOW, CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND PARCELS WITH ZONING AND WE HAVE GOT OTHER JURISDICTIONS OWNING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS ROAD IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE HOW IT CAME INTO EXISTENCE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BUT MAYBE A CANAL MAINTENANCE ROAD AT SOME POINT. MR. MIMMS, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

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>> THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE IN IT THE CHAMBERS LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE WITH

CONDITIONS. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON:

SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MOTION AND A

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

[d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Conditional Use by applicant Nikki Kelly to operate a 2,126 square-feet adult daycare facility at 1331 N. Lawnwood Circle, more specifically at Parcel ID: 2416-604-0010-000-0.]

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE ANOTHER QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN ACTION FOR CONDITIONAL USE BY APPLICANT NIKKI KELLY TO OPERATE A 2126-SQUARE-FOOT ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY AT 13 1 NORTH LAWNWOOD

CIRCLE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: HAVE WE MET THE

ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS. >> YES, MA'AM, THE ADVERTISING

HAS BEEN MET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS OF EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: NO. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: HOLD ON.

DID SHE DO A PRESENTATION? NO?

OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THERE

WAS ANOTHER ONE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: OKAY,

THEN NO THEN. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

NO, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: NO,

MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: NO, MA'AM.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES PLEASE.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ADULT DAY CARE AT 1 331 NORTH LONGWOOD CIRCLE. THE APPLICANT IS NIKKI KELLY.

PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THE PARCEL ID IS 2416-604-0010-000-0. OF THE CITY CODE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REVIEW OF AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ADULT DAY CARE FACILITY, ARBOR VILLAGE TRAINING CENTER TO HAVE HANDS-ON TECHNIQUES AND HELP ACQUIRE SKILLS.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO OPERATE A DAY CARE IN AN EXISTING 2126-SQUARE-FEET ADULT CA DAY CARE.

EXAM ROOMS AND BATHROOMS. DAY CARE WILL EMPLOY THREE TO FOUR STAFF MEMBERS AND OPERATE BETWEEN 9 A.M. TO 3 P.M. WITH TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED BY THE CENTER.

THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION OF THE 0.71 GIVE OR TAKE ACRES PARCEL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS O.P. OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. THE ZONING IS C-1.

OFFICE COMMERCIAL. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, THE GREEN OUTLINE RIGHT HERE IS THE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE PARKING LOT. BACK HERE IS A NICE SHADED PATTY I DON'T HE AREA. THIS IS THE FIRST-FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING AT THEIR APRIL 10, 2023 MEETING, PLANNING BOARD APPROVED THE POSITION WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION BE EXTENDED TO 5 P.M. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO VOTE APPROVAL WITH THE ONE CONDITION, THE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CAN GIVE TONIGHT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS OR A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: ONE QUICK QUESTION. WHY DID THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED TO EXTEND IT TO 5:00.

>> IF THEY WANTED TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 5:00.

BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, THEY WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO ONLY 3 P.M. MOVING IT TO 5 P.M. ALLOWS THEM TO BE ABLE TO STAY

OPEN UNTIL 5 P.M. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT?

>> ADULT DAYCARES ARE CONDITIONAL USES IN THE R-2 TO R-5, C-1 TO C-5 ZONINGS MARY MAYOR ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHTY. I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD EVEN THOUGH WE

KNOW WHO YOU ARE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE EXAMINE IGS. GLAD TO BE HERE, TODD MOURY WITH RED TAIL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

NICE WORKING WITH STAFF. AS ALWAYS JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS MAYOR MARY EXCUSE ME, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OF STAFF. >>MAYOR HUDSON: PLEASE PROCEED.

I FOUND OUT THE OTHER DAY THAT WE ARE ALL AGEING.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT ITCH WOULD STOP HAVING BIRTHDAYS. WE ARE SEEING THIS IS A NEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING I HAVE A LOVED ONE.

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THERE ARE TWO. AND SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT, WE ARE REALIZING THAT YOUR CITY IS IN NEED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SQUARE FOR OUR LOVED ONES AND PROVIDE FOR THAT.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING WITH THIS REQUEST.

SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE. EXTEND THE HOURS TO 5 P.M. AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PULL BACK ON THE BOTTOM SIDE DO A 8 A.M.

VERYS. >> 9 A.M.

WE ARE FINDING MORE REQUESTS FOLLOWING THE MEETING BECAUSE OF MY WORK SCHEDULED AND WHATNOT. WE FIND OUT IT IS BETTER THAT THE TRANSPORT SERVICE BE ABLE TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF.

DOING 8 TO 5 VERSUS 9 TO 5 WOULD BE A REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL CHANGE IN THAT. THAT IS THE ONLY REQUEST WE WILL HAVE AT THIS TIME. OTHER THAN THAT, WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. TICKLED TO BE HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE

WITH BOTH CONDITIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AND THE HOURS.

THE HOURS OF OPERATION. >> ONE OR TWO CONDITIONS -- I

THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY ONE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ONE CONDITION

AND THEN THE HOURS. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THE PLANNING BOARD HAD ONE CONDITION STAYING OWNERSHIP UNTIL 5:00, AND THEN THE APPLICANT JUST ASKED FOR THE SECOND CONDITION TO BE OPENING AT 8:00. TWO CONDITIONS.

SO -- OKAY. LET ME CLEAN IT UP.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT WITH THE CONDITIONS OF -- THE FACILITY OPENING AT 8 AND CLOSING AT 5.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE A SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: SECOND.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES,

MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

[a. Resolution No. 23-R35 Authorizing the release of mineral rights on property located on Boston Avenue which was previously sold pursuant to Resolution 22-R26.]

>> OKAY. NEXT WE MOVE CONTINUE TO RESOLUTIONS. WE HAVE RESOLUTION 23-R 35, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A QUITCLAIM DEED OF MINERAL RIGHTS FOR PAUL HEMINGWAY AND LAUREL HEMINGWAYS, THE HEMINGWAYS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS JUST A NECESSARY MOTION FOR SOME PROPERTY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SOLD.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SPECKED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL,

PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES,

[b. Resolution 23-R36 reappointing Claudette Pelletier as Special Magistrate]

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT RESOLUTION 23-R 36, REAPPOINTING CLAUDETTE PELLETIER ESQUIRE AS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO PRESIDE OVER CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS TO APPLICABLE STATUTES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE A MOTION.

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES.

[c. Resolution 23-R37 removing the Sunrise Theatre Executive Director as an ex-officio member of the Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board.]

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> AND WE HAVE RESOLUTION 23-R 37, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MODIFYING THE COMPOSITION OF THE SUN RISE THEATRE ADVISORY BOARD AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: MOVE TO SAY PROVE.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YES, MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS

FROM THE PUBLIC. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

[a. Reports]

>> WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. IN YOUR AGENDA ENCLOSED TWO REPORTS, THE PURCHASE ORDER REPORT THAT I GIVE TO YOU ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THE OTHER IS THE 2022 ANNUAL YEAR-IN-REVIEW DOCUMENTATION WE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVES OF THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THE 100 ANNIVERSARY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE 100-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF OUR SUNRISE THEATRE. AND 100-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 100 YEARS OF CITY MANAGEMENT, CITY COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED BACK IN 1923. SMART MOVES, BUT WE CELEBRATED

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AND ALSO, WE TALK ABOUT OUR -- OUR CONTINUING TO DECLINE CRIME STATISTICS ON AN OVERALL BASIS. WE SEE THE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES TO CLIMB. AND WE SEE JUST A POSITIVE TRENDS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS YEAR IN REVIEW DOCUMENT JUST HIGHLIGHTS WHAT YOU AS A CITY COMMISSION HAVE LED OUR COMMUNITY INTO. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO GREATER THINGS NEXT YEAR. AND WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE NEXT YEAR, BUT THIS ONE WE ARE PROMOTING TO IT THE COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS, I BELIEVE, EARLIER THROUGH MEMORANDUM. AND WE JUST ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ACCENTUATE OUR POSITIVES.

AND THAT'S IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IF THIS WILL BE POSTED ON OUR WEB SITE. I AM QUITE SURE IT -- UNDER THE

CITY MANAGER. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: STAY OF THE MANAGER'S AND STATE OF THE CITY IS THERE, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND OTHER TIDBITS OF INFORMATION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.

>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM. >> MISS COX.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>>. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS EARLEY.

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: A VOLUNTEER TO GO FIRST.

COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WILL BE BRIEF. THANK THE COMMISSION FOR A GREAT MEETING. MR. MIMMS -- MISS COX, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT DOCUMENT THAT UPLOADS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE -- THAT WILL BE UPLOADED. THE ONLY COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE.

I AM HAPPY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT THERE, AND I WANT TO BE THE FIRST TO TRY IT OUT.

LET US KNOW WHEN WE ARE INSTALLED AND READY TO GO.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE OTHER ONE IS VERY POPULAR.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: YES, IT IS.

I WANT THIS ONE TO BE POPULAR AND BRING A LOT OF ACTIVITY TO THE AREA. YES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YOU WANT TO GO NEXT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: VERY QUICKLY, THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE WEEK OF PUBLIC WORKS. THOSE FOLKS LITERALLY ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE COMMUNITY, SIMILAR TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WITHOUT THOSE TWO FACTIONS WORKING DAILY FOR PROTECTION AND TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY, THERE IS NO COMMUNITY. AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS ARE DEDICATED. THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

AND I, FOR ONE, AM TRULY APPRECIATIVE OF THE EFFORTS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB.

ANDS THAT IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES, YOU WANT TO GO NEXT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM MAYOR, YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW FOR YEARS. I HAVE SEEN THESE POPPIES FOR YEARS, FOR YEARS. UP DIDN'T KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE.

BUT NOW I DO. I SIT HERE AND LOOKED UP THE POEM. LOOKED UP THE POEM.

SO I -- I READ THE POEM. SO NOW I HAVE A BETTER -- A BETTER MEANING. SO I THANK THE VETERAN -- THE AMERICAN LEGION FOR THIS. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY TO THE -- TO THE -- I LOVE THE PROCLAMATION TO THE -- OUR HAITIAN AMERICANS. SOMETIMES THEY -- THEY FEEL REAL LEFT OUT OF OUR MOTTO OF ONE FORT PIERCE.

SO I AM GLAD WE DID THAT. AND TO SHOW THAT, HEY, WHEN WE SAY ONE FORT PIERCE, WE MEAN ONE FORT PIERCE, AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WITH THAT, GREAT MEETING TONIGHT.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ONE COMMENT TONIGHT AND REALLY JUST REGARDING BRIGHT LINE.

WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF BRIGHT LINE COMING THROUGH ON A DAILY AND ROUTINE BASIS. I AM GOING -- LIKE I TOLD BEFORE, TO TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT, THINK ABOUT IT. MR. MIMMS HAS PASSED ON SOME CONTACT INFORMATION TO ME WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF BRIGHT LINE.

I AM GOING TO REACH OUT FURTHER TO THOSE REPRESENTATIVES AND TO OTHER ASPECTS OF THAT ORGANIZATION.

IN ADDITION, JUST BE READY FOR SOME REPORTS COMING OUT.

AND MR. MIMMS, AND I AM SURE ALL STAFF -- AND ALL COMMISSION HAVE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, ENGAGING IN THE OPPORTUNITIES MR. BUCKWAL IS ENGAGING DOWN SOUTH FROM A TPO PERSPECTIVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THAT. IF WE NEED A BRAINSTORMING SESSION AS FAR AS WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY, THEN LET'S HAVE THAT SESSION. I AM NOT SURE I KNOW ALL OF YOUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM.

I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU MY THOUGHTS IN ADDITION TO -- OUTSIDE OF SAYING, YEAH, WE WANT A STATION.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE, FEEL LIKE.

I KNOW WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THE PARAMETERS OF THE PROFESSIONALS, BUT WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE HEARING IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TIME

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>>NICHOLAS MIMMS: AT THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING, SIR, TWO ITEMS. ONE IS DESIGN AND PROPOSAL AND CONTRACT WITH ONE OF THE DESIGNERS THAT HAVE DONE PREVIOUS STATIONS IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA.

AND THE SECOND WILL BE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TPO OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO HAVE A JOINT FUND AGREEMENT AND THEY CAN HELP US FUND THIS DESIGN AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE REALITY OF PLACING A STATION IN BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND SO, AGAIN, AS THE BRIGHT LINE JUST -- IT IS COMING TO LIFE. ORLANDO IS COMPLETE.

AND NOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE CONNECTION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CONNECTION OTHER THAN BY CAR OR AIR BETWEEN THE TWO OF MIAMI AND ORLANDO. AND WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE CHANNELS TO CELEBRATE THAT IT IS COMING THROUGH FORT PIERCE, IF IT IS GOING TO COME THROUGH FORT PIERCE. WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, THAT'S OKAY. WE NEED TO HAVE IS A PLAN AND A MISSION IF THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO EMBRACE.

AND HOWEVER WE CAN DO THAT IN ADDITION TO THOSE ITEMS NOT JUST COMING TO DO THE BUSINESS, BUT TRULY STRATEGIZING ON WHERE WE CAN BE. AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BECAUSE WE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS AS FAR AS LOCATIONS.

I EVEN SAW ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN WEEKEND FOLKS IDENTIFYING OTHER LOCATIONS. YEAH, IT -- YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT IS GETTING -- IT IS CATCHING FIRE IS MY POINT.

SO, YOU KNOW, FROM -- FROM THE ASPECTS OF THE CITY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CHAMPIONING THAT EFFORT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: HOW SOON DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT.

HAVE THAT AT A CONFERENCE AGENDA, PERHAPS? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING OF A BRAINSTORMING SESSION?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I WOULD THINK WE WOULD.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AGREE. LET'S -- WELL, I GUESS ON THIS SIDE, WE KNOW -- WE ARE READY TO GO HOLD UP THE SIGN.

WE ARE READY TO HOLD UP THE SIGNS AND SAY WE WANT YOU THERE.

SEEING THIS IS THE ONLY VENUE WE CAN DISCUSS OPENLY, LET'S JUST SET IT UP AND PUT OUR MINDS TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH -- YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO SAY, HEY, WE ARE ON A SOLID PLAN AND GO FROM THERE. IF GO BACK -- THE SOCIAL MEDIA -- THE SOECHLDZ P-- THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST THAT WAS OUT THIS WEEK, THERE WERE STRANGE LOCATIONS.

AND THAT SHOWS ME THAT PEOPLE OF -- ALL OVER COUNTY ARE EXCITED ON THE CHANNELS OF HAVING THAT STATION HERE.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF -- THERE WAS -- I AM LIKE, IT JUST -- IT

IS OUT THERE, MADAM MAYOR. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ODDLY ENOUGH, THE WHOLE TREASURE COAST.

A STUART FOR PORT ST. LUCIE, THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS TALK OF FORT

PIERCE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OVERWHELMING.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL POLLS WHAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD DO. PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RALLY EFFORT, BUT WHY NOT ENGAGE AS A COMMISSION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHY NOT. I AM SITTING HERE WONDERING IF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE A STATION HAD -- HAD THE ADVANTAGE OR THE FORESIGHT TO SIT DOWN AND SAID LET'S BRAINSTORM ABOUT -- OR ACCEPTED WHAT BRIGHT LINE SAID THIS IS WHERE IT IS GOING TO GO AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BUILD.

I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD BE DOCTORED IN THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: REAL QUICK, MADAM MAYOR.

IF WE HAVE THAT SIT-DOWN DISCUSSION, WILL THAT BE A GOOD MEETING TO ASK ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES OR ASK THE REPRESENTATIVES TO COME IN -- STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO COME IN AND SAY WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR THIS AREA AND US FIRST AND THEN INVITE THEM. MENT MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE STANDING ON OUR SIDE, YOU KNOW, BRIGHT LINE WILL LOOK.

I THINK SESSION ENDED SO DANA AND AARON, THEY SHOULD BE HERE.

SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM IN AND THEY MAY HAVE IDEAS AND HAVE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I DON'T KNOW

EITHER. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: SHOW AN UNITED FRONT. IF BRIGHT LINE SEES A UNITED FRONT. PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. THE TREASURE COAST IS EXCITED AND FORT PIERCE, THEY HAVE THE BULLS EYE.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: A WAY TO REACH OUT TO THE LEAGUE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

MUNITION PAT GO THROUGH THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BECAUSE WE ARE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY. I CAN DO THAT ON WEDNESDAY.

YEP. GOT THAT INFORMATION.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: PLANTED THE SEED.

TIME TO WATER THE SEED AND HAVE SOME GROWTH.

HERE WE ARE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS HERE.

AND I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE HAVE A COMMON MESSAGE.

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THIS QUESTION GETS RAISED TO ME WEEKLY, IF NOT MORE.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK THAT THIS BODY NEED TO BE UNIFIED IN THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY BUT ALSO TO THE VENDOR ON THE OUTSIDE.

SO I THINK -- IT'S TIME. TIME TO GET THAT DONE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MR. MIMMS. MIMMS

MIEMZ /*. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO COMPLICATE THINGS, BUT A FEW YEARS BACK, WE HAD A EXERCISE WHERE WE PUT A LETTER OF INTEREST TO BRIGHT LINE AND A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS AND DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.

TOURISM INFORMATION. WE HAD LETTERS FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY, PORT ST. LUCIE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

NOTHING HAVE CHANGED. BRIGHT LINE HAS NOT MADE A DETERMINATION. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET A CONNECTION BETWEEN MIAMI AND ORLANDO, AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS TO GET THE DESIGN PORTION TO ROLL. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS

NEVER WAVERED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT.

BUT WE ARE SAYING THAT MAYBE OUR CITIZENS DON'T KNOW THAT.

AND MAYBE THAT THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE DID BEFORE. AND MAYBE WE NEED TO RENEW THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS CHANGED HANDS A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE

THEN. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM,

GOT IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: USE USED TO BE CALLED. HAD SEVERAL NAMES AND DIFFERENT

OWNERS. >> WE CAN DO IT VIA A RESOLUTION. SO JUST -- IT WILL BE TOP OF MIND FOR EVERYBODY AND JUST READOPT EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE

ALREADY DONE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WELL, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN FRESHEN IT UP.

NOTHING WRONG -- ALL NOSE PEOPLE WORK THERE NOW MAY NOT KNOW THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE VAULT, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS RECORDKEEPING AS WE ARE.

IT IS NOT COVERED BY SUNSHINE AND PUBLIC RECORDS.

[LAUGHTER] NOBODY WILL EVER SEE NOSE

RECORDS, THE LIGHT OF DAY. >>NICHOLAS MIMMS: YES, MA'AM.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ALL I HAVE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD IDEA. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IN SUNDAY, ST.

PAUL AME IS CELEBRATING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ALL OF US ARE INVITED.

IT IS A VERY NICE CEREMONY. AND THEY REALLY SHOW OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT BOTH CITY OF FORT PIERCE POLICE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE HOW MUCH THEY APPRECIATE. SO IT IS A VERY NICE CEREMONY.

SO I AM REMINDING YOU ALL THAT YOU ARE ALL INVITED.

AND YOU -- AND ALSO, MEMORIAL DAY IS THE 30TH OF MAY, I THINK IT IS THE MONDAY. I THINK THAT IS A MONDAY.

HAND THIS WILL HAVE SERVICES AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

THE DIFFERENT MILITARY -- THE DIFFERENT LEGIONS THAT TAKE TURN AROUND THE COUNTY. SO THEY WILL START AT 11:00.

THEY START EVERY YEAR AT 11:00. AND SO MEMORIAL DAY, YOU ARE INVITED TO REMEMBER OUR NATION'S FALLEN HEROES.

>> THE 29TH. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THE 29TH.

>> THE 29TH AND THAT WRUFR WRUN'S CALENDAR.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: SPEAKING OF CALENDARS.

I RECEIVED AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR AND THE

DATE WAS WRONG. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DATE WRONG.

I -- IF THEY SHOWED UP ON THE 20TH IF IT WOULD BE SATURDAY.

THAT IS THE DAY OF THEIR GOLF TOURNAMENT.

THEY HAVE THE 20TH ON THE BRAIN. COFFEE WITH MAYOR, FRIDAY 19TH.

NOTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER, WE WILL BE LIVING THE

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