Jul 10, 2023 City Commission Budget Workshop

[1. Call to Order]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS IS THE CONFERENCE AGENDA AND BUDGET WORKSHOP IT IS MONDAY, JULY 10, 2023, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

CANCER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO AMERICA WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE

FOR ALL. >> CALL THE ROLL POLICE.

(ROLL CALL). >> THE FIRST PICKED BIGGEST THE

[a. Presentation of Proposed FY 2023 - 2024 General Fund Budget, FPRA Budget and Enterprise Funds Proposed Spending Plans]

>> WELCOME TO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR FY 24.

I HAVE LEARNED I WON'T SAY TO MUCH.

I WILL TURN THIS OVER BUT I WILL SAY, I WORKED TOTAL OPERATIONAL BUDGET TOTALS OVER $104 MILLION WITH THE GENERAL FUND COMPRISING OF OVER $57 MILLION. BUDGET AS PRESENTED UTILIZE OUR EXISTING AND CURRENT $6.9 MILLION AND INCLUDES REVENUES GENERATED FROM A HEALTHY INCREASE AND OUR PROPERTY EVALUATION. AT THIS TIME I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE WILL LEAD US THROUGH THE PRESENTATION

OF OUR BUDGET. >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

YOU HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT A GREAT JOB.

>> HE DID NOT STEAL YOUR THUNDER.

>> NOT THIS TIME. >> INTRODUCING OUR PROPOSED BUDGET. AS YOU SAID I WERE 2024 PROPOSED BUDGET IS BALANCED. AND IT IS THAT 57,000,90070000.

THAT IS A 5,000,000,004 TO 95,165-DOLLAR INCREASE OR 10.5%.

THE HIGHLIGHTS WE HAVE INCREASE ESTIMATES FOR OUR PROPERTY TAXES INITIALLY, WE WERE TOLD AT THE END OF MAY IT WOULD BE 12%.

BY THE TIME WE DID OUR PAPERWORK IT HAD INCREASED AND IT WAS AT 3.9% WHICH, WE DO HAVE A 17-POINT DISTRACTED 17.9% INCREASE IN OUR BASE TAXABLE VALUES WE DID SEE THAT.

THE ONLY PORTION THAT IS TAXABLE THAT WE CAN GET PRACTICE FROM IS THE 3.8% WHICH IS WHY I SAY WE HAVE A 50.2% INCREASE IN WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY RECEIVE BECAUSE OF THAT 3.9% THAT IS THERE THERE IS AN ADJUSTMENT THAT IS IN. OUR PROPERTY TAX PERSON WOULD TELL US WE HAVE THE 17.9% BECAUSE TECHNICALLY WE DO.

BUT ONLY 15.6 IS WHERE WE CAN'T RECEIVE REVENUE.

THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY MAKE FOR THE NONTAXABLE THERE MAY BE SOME IN THE VALUE BUT THEY ARE NOT TAXABLE YET.

AND WHAT WAS WRONG? >> WE HAD SOME AUDIO PLAYING AND WE DID NOT KNOW WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM.

>> I PICKED IT UP ON MY HEARING AID.

>> WITHOUT THE MUSIC THIS TIME. BUT YEAH, THAT IS WHAT THE ADJUSTMENT IS FOR THOSE. THAT IT IS BEST LIKE THAT IS WHY

IT IS LIKE THAT. >> WE ARE PROPOSING NO CHANGE IN THE MILLAGE RATE. OUR RATIONALE AS YOU WILL SEE IS EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SEEING THIS INCREASE WE HAVE HAD DRAMATIC INCREASES IN QUITE A BIT OF OUR EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM.

OUR CONTRACTUAL COSTS, OUR GOODS AND SERVICES, OUR PROPERTY TAX VALUES ARE GONNA. WE ARE GETTING A 95% INCREASE.

EVEN THOUGH WE SEE THIS INCREASE, OUR COSTS ARE INCREASING SO WE ARE GETTING THE MONEY BUT IT IS GOING OUT OF THE

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WITHOUT FOOD AND ENERGY IT WAS 5.3%.

AND WRITE DOWN CURRENTLY IT IS THAT FOR .5% SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SEEING THESE, WE HAVE THIS INCREASE, CPI IS INCREASING AND ALTHOUGH IT IS DECREASING, IT IS DECREASING HIM WITHOUT IT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES TO OUR SERVICE LEVEL.

AS WE LOOK AT THE REVENUE IT IS BUDGETED AT 25 MILLION.

THAT IS A $3.7 MILLION INCREASE FROM FROM THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE BALANCED THIS BUDGET USING THAT NUMBER. W HAVE GONE IN AND INCREASED OUR TAXES AND THE STATE DISTRIBUTED REVENUE BASED ON ACTUAL NUMBERS. THERE IS AN INCREASE AND ALL OF THOSE PROJECTED REVENUES ARE BASED ON THE ACTUALS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND THE NUMBERS THE STATE HAS PROVIDED AND THESE ARE THE POTENTIAL NUMBERS WE ARE LOOKING AT.

WE ARE USING $1 MILLION FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS.

IF YOU REMEMBER LAST FISCAL YEAR I BUDGETED $1 MILLION TO BE USED AND DID NOT HAVE TO USE IT. IT WAS RESTRICTED TO BE UTILIZED AT A LATER TIME. IN THIS BUDGET THERE IS $500,000 TO BE USED IN LAW'S REVENUE AND FOR THE PORTION THAT WAS ALLOWABLE FOR SALARIES. I AM USING THAT TO BALANCE THIS YEAR'S UPCOMING BUDGET. WE WILL NEED THOSE FUNDS AND IT WILL BE USED FOR BOTH ALLOWANCES.

THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE SALES TAX REVENUE.

THAT HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE. BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTED NUMBERS, USING THE 250,000-DOLLAR INCREASE.

WE ARE RESTRICTING CONTINUING TO RESTRICT THE $600,000 THAT WAS TO BE USED FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

WE UTILIZED 400 OF THAT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET AND 200 WAS PAYING OFF THE LOAN WE USED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO GET OUR CAPITAL FUND GOING. THIS IS THE FINAL YEAR FOR THE PAYMENT. INSTEAD OF $400,000 BEING USED FOR CAPITAL IT WILL BE USED AS THE TOTAL $600,000.

THAT IS OUR REVENUE. BEFORE WE GO ON TO REVENUE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS?

>> NO QUESTIONS. >> WE DO AVENUE NINE NEW POSITIONS BEING ADDED TO THE GENERAL FUND IN THIS PERSONNEL.

THAT EQUATES TO 536,000. THERE IS ONE IT POSITION AND THERE IS AN ILLUMINATION IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND THAT IS THE ANIMAL SHELTER MANAGER.

WE MOVED THAT POSITION FROM GENERAL OVER TO THE NOW ENTERPRISE FUND FOR SHELTERS. THERE ARE EIGHT POSITIONS HERE AND FIVE OF THOSE ARE FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY IN THE COPS HIRING GRANT.

THAT IS NOW OVER AND AS A REQUIREMENT THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND AND CARRIED OVER.

WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM OVER WITHOUT DECREASING OUR

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IN ORDER TO NOT DECREASE THE OFFICER NUMBER AND OUT THE SROS ARE SPECIFIC AND THE POLICE ACCOUNT REMAINS THE SAME.

>> BUT THEY ARE FUNDED FROM -- >> THEY ARE DONE AS A TRANSFER OVER. THERE IS ONE POSITION THAT WILL BE FUNDED BY STORM WATER REVENUE.

>> THERE IS BUILT IN THIS BUDGET A COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE FOR ALL BARGAINING AND NONBARGAINING EMPLOYEES OF 5%.

AGAIN, WE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED THE 5%, AND THE CURRENT CPI OR INFLATION RATE WAS FOR .93% AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. LAST YEAR, AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS A .58%. EVEN THOUGH LAST YEAR, WE GAVE A COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE THE INFLATION RATE WAS 8.5 8%.

SO WE GOT IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COST OF LIVING IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, YOU REALLY DID NOT SEE TO MUCH OF ANYTHING.

PEKIN TO TRY AND HELP OUR EMPLOYEES DEAL WITH A COST-OF-LIVING, WE ARE INCLUDING OR BUILT THE BUDGET WITH A COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT. FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS WE ARE FUNDING THEIR CURRENT PLAN. THEY WANTED US TO FUND THE PLAN, AND WE DID SUNDAY LAST YEAR. ORIGINALLY WAS BUDGETED FOR THE STEP PLAN BUT THROUGH THIS WE DID BEFORE% PLUS THE STEP PLAN.

THERE WAS THE ADDITIONAL INCREASE YOU WILL SEE BESIDE THESE NUMBERS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INCREASE IN PERSONNEL, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS ABOVE THAT BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED FOR CHEST THE STEP BUT WE DID A 4% STEP.

TO DO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, IT WAS $253,000 AND THAT IS WHAT WE BUILT IN THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR, ONLY THE STEP.

I ALWAYS INCLUDE BECAUSE I WAS ASKED TO DO IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, TO SHOW HOW MUCH GOES TO POLICE SERVICES AND THAT IS 33% AND, 33% GOES TO POLICE. OUR RETIRING CONTRIBUTION RATE THERE IS AN INCREASE OF 4.3% AND AN INCREASE FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS. IN OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS WHICH I WILL HIGHLIGHT, PRM HAS BEEN A GREAT ASSET FOR US WHILE THE NATIONAL AJIT CATCHMENT AVERAGE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE IS 35% WE HAD NO CHANGE IN OUR PREMIUM COST NO INCREASE AT ALL FOR TINSEL AND HEALTH. THAT CONTINUES TO REMAIN GREAT FOR US. PEKIN THE OPERATING BUDGET WAS REEVALUATED. WE WENT THROUGH LINE ITEMS AND ADJUSTED AS NEEDED. THERE IS AN INCREASE OF $2 MILLION FOR THE OPERATING COSTS.

AND IN THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES.

THERE IS A TRANSFER TO OUR ANIMAL SHELTER OF 199 THOUSAND $500 AND THAT IS THE FUNDS THAT WERE THAT WERE ONCE IN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. WE HAD $125,000 THAT WENT TO THE

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>> THERE IS A DECREASE IN SERVICE PAYMENT.

I INCLUDED WHAT OUR CURRENT THAT IS, WHERE WE ARE IN PROPORTION TO OUR LIMIT AND THE DEBT MARGIN AND THE TOTAL GENERAL.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE $7.9 MILLION REMAINING.

OUR FUND AGAIN, THIS IS THE FINAL YEAR WE WILL PAY OFF THE LOAN WE HAD AND WE WILL BE DONE WITH THAT.

OUR FPR AID THERE IS A BALANCE OF $20 MILLION REMAINING.

THE MARINA HAS $6 MILLION IN STORMWATER.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE APPLICABLE TO OUR LIMIT, $19 MILLION THAT IS OUR DEAD AND THAT AN ADDITIONAL AN ADDITIONAL 28 -- IN ADDITION TO THAT IS THE FPR A. COMBINE WE ARE 29.6% OF OUR DEBT LIMIT. AND I SHOWED FROM YEAR-TO-YEAR THE DEBT BALANCES AND THE DECREASE.

WE CONTINUE TO DECREASE OUR COSTS WHICH IS GREAT.

AND SO, WE HAVE EIGHT DECREASE OF $4.5 MILLION FROM SHARE TO LAST YEAR. AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO INTO OUR FPR A BUDGET I WILL ENTERTAIN THOSE

VAMPIRIC. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AND THE GENERAL OPERATION COSTS, I AM ASSUMING THERE IS A PACKAGE FOR INSURANCE. OTHER THAN HEALTH INSURANCE WE HAVE THE WHOLE MY WRIT OF DIFFERENT COVERAGES.

CAP THOSE POLICIES OR ANTICIPATED INCREASES BEEN CONTEMPLATED INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.

I ASKED BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS INSURANCE COSTS ARE SKYROCKETING. OUR COMPANY IS EXPERIENCING 350% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD. HAVE YOU CONTEMPLATED THAT AND WHEN DOES THAT PACKAGE COME UP FOR RENEWAL.

IS IT A BOOK OR IS IT MULTIPLE TIMELINES AND POLICIES?

>> IN HIS BOOK AND IT IS UP FOR RENEWAL.

IT RUNS WITH THE FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1-SEPTEMBER 30.

WE MAY QUARTER PAYMENTS ON IT. IT IS IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET.

AND THE ANTICIPATED INCREASES THEY HAVE TOLD US WE ARE LOOKING AT HER IN HERE. I WILL MAKE IT KNOWN ALSO WE ARE CURRENTLY COMING UP FOR A REEVALUATION OF THE ASSETS AND I HAVE PUT IN AN ADDITIONAL 20% FOR THAT.

I AM PROJECTING IT COULD BE MORE SO I MAY HAVE TO USE FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE THAT. WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY AND LIABILITY. AUTOMOBILE INSURANCE.

WORKER'S COMP. IS ALL INCLUDD IN ONE PACKAGE.

IT HAS BEEN BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET.

BASED ON THE PROPERTY ALONE WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE OF $1,052,000 ON THAT PORTION ALONE.

>> REEVALUATION PROCESS,. >> IT WON'T REPLACE MARKET

EVALUATION? >> HE HAS IN THE IN THE CURRENT ASSET VALUE. WE HAVE NOT HAD AN ASSET REEVALUATION TO SEE BASE WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS IN YEARS HONESTLY.

THE CAUSE OF THAT THEY ARE INDUSTRYWIDE WITH THE COMPANY AND THEY ARE WITH ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS GOING OUT AND EVALUATING MAKING SURE THERE IS ENOUGH COVERAGE ON THE POLICIES

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THAT THEY CARRY. >> THIS HAS WHEN DO YOU CONTEMPLATE GETTING RENEWAL QUOTES.

I KNOW ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE YOU GET THEM AT THE LAST MINUTE.

ARE THEY MORE PROMPT FORGETTING THAT WE MAY FACE THE PERFECT STORM AND WE TRIED THAT THIS YEAR DIDN'T WORK.

WE ARE WAY OFF TARGET. I AM SUGGESTING YOU MAY HAVE STICKER SHOCK. I'M CURIOUS WHEN THAT COMES UP, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE YOU WILL GET THAT.

WE WILL GET THAT BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH.

HONESTLY WE WILL GET IT AT THE END OF AUGUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY OUR PREMIUM BEFORE THAT. WE ALWAYS DO IT AS PREPAY SO IT'S THERE. BUT WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE THOSE NUMBERS BY AUGUST AND LIKE I SAID I KNOW THE 95% AND THE OTHER NUMBERS AS WELL I AM ALREADY GIVEN THOSE NUMBERS.

I KNOW BOTH OF THE NUMBERS, I DID CHOOSE BUILD THAT EXTRA AMOUNT. I KNOW I HAVE A FUND BALANCE TO COVER IT BUT I DID NOT WANT TO UTILIZE THE KNOWLEDGE NUMBER BASED ON A PROJECTION THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE AND I CAN'T USE IT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE BUDGET.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT WHEN I KNOW I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL

FUNDS TO COVER IT. >> HOW IS THE REEVALUATION CONDUCTED. THAT BEING DRIVEN BY THE CITY MANAGEMENT, WALK ME THROUGH THAT.

>> IT IS BY THE CARRIER. WHAT SPARKED IT FOR US IS WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SEE THE VALUE FOR THE SUNRISE THEATER, AS WE WERE READ VIEWING THAT WE WILL ALL REVALUATE THAT.

EVERYTHING THAT IS INSURED. IF IT COMES ABOUT, IT IS GOOD AND IT IS BAD. IT IS GOOD BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE SOME THINGS THEY DON'T HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

ESPECIALLY WHEN AN EVALUATION IS GOING ON.

THEY WILL GO THROUGH EVERYTHING. EVERY BUILDING.

THEY WILL GO IN AND TAKES PICTURES TO SEE AND BASED ON WHAT THE APPRAISER COMES BACK AND SAYS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE INSURED THAT IS WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO.

>> LIKE YOU SAID, THAT IS A PERFECT STORM.

>> I WOULD CONTEMPLATE SOME SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION.

>> WHEN THAT IS FORTHCOMING WILL YOU BRING THAT BACK AND SAY THIS IS WHERE THEY WERE BASIS -- BASED ON ASSETS THAT WE OWN AND THE VALUATIONS THEY ARE INDICATING AND WE NEED TO COVER.

THERE IS PENALTIES IF WE DON'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THOSE DETERMINATIONS FOR CHANGING THOSE, THIS COULD BE A BIG ISSUE. HOPEFULLY NOT.

BUT I AM CONTEMPLATING. MORE QUESTIONS ON THE DEBT SERVICES BREAKDOWN. I HAVE ADDED CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE INFORMATION PREVIOUSLY THANK YOU FOR FORWARDING THE

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COUNTRY AROUND. >> ONE GOOD THING WE DID DO, WHEN THE RATES WERE LOW WE WENT IN AND EVERY BOND THAT WE HAD WE REFINANCED AND GOT BUT LOWER RATE.

>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING AND SAYING EVERYTHING IS STRUCTURED

AND FIXED. >> MY FINAL QUESTION IS RELATIVE TO STAFFING. JUST TO USE AN EASY EXAMPLE.

LET'S SAY THE CITY HAS 100 EMPLOYEES.

I KNOW THAT IS A FICTITIOUS NUMBER.

I ALSO KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN CHALLENGED LIKE EVERYONE WITH SECURING POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

DO YOU HAVE OFF OF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, LET'S SAY WE HAVE 100 POSITIONS, I KNOW WE HAVE A SHORTFALL OF STAFFING, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE IN TRANSITION CLICK.

>> I DO NOT. I CAN VERY EASILY GET IT, BECAUSE I HAVE IT IN A SPREADSHEET.

>> I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS RUNNING SHORT OF PERSONNEL.

AND I KNOW IT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET BECAUSE YOU ARE BUDGETING FOR 100, YOU MAY PAY 92, SO YOU ARE CONTINUOUSLY MOVING THAT MONEY SO THE OTHER MONEY REMAINS.

>> IT IS FUND BALANCE. WE ARE REQUIRED THAT ANY FUNDS THAT ARE NOT USED IN THE BUDGET AT THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, THEY ROLL UNLESS THERE IS A RESTRICTED PURPOSE.

>> DOES IT HAVE TO BE APPLICABLE TO THAT?

>> UNLESS THERE IS A RESTRICTION FOR, LET'S SAY WE MAY HAVE CAPITAL FUNDS THAT MAY ROLL OVER.

THEY WILL BE IN THE FUND BALANCE BUT THEY WILL BE RESTRICTED BECAUSE BUT IT ROLLS. THOSE FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED ONLY

TO BE USED FOR CAPITAL. >> AND THE BALANCE OF THE LINE ITEMS, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE ARE IMPACTED.

>> WE ALLOCATE EVERY FISCAL YEAR 10% OF WHATEVER THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS. IF THIS IS APPROVED THIS HAS TO BE RESTRICTED IN THE FUND BALANCE TO BE USED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. YOU DECIDE IF AND WHEN WE NEED IT, YOU DECIDE WHEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT WHAT THEY ARE TO BE UTILIZED FOR. IT IS THERE, NOT TO BE TOUCHED

AND YOU DECIDE WHEN THAT IS. >> IS THAT A ROLLING BALANCE.

THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WE ARE IN IT WAS FIVE-POINT TO $4 MILLION THAT WAS RESTRICTED. IT WILL GROW THAT AND THEN IT WILL ADD AN ADDITIONAL TO MAKE THE --

>> WHEN MAINTAINING THE 10% BALANCE WERE NOT ADDING TO IT THIS YEAR. IT'S JUST INCREASING THE BALANCE. THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> WE DO THAT BY POLICY. IT IS A CONTINGENCY.

AND BACK ON ON THE DEAD. TEN YEARS AGO AND WE BECAME WENT -- WHEN I BECAME MAYOR IT WAS JUST ABOUT HALF.

>> THE COMMISSION HAS REDUCED THE DEBT.

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>> AGAIN YOU HAVE PROVIDED GREAT INFORMATION AND AN ANALYSIS THAT THE CITY CARRIES. THAT IS QUITE AN INTERESTING STORY AND YOU CAN SEE OUT THAT HAS BEEN DEPLOYED.

BUT THE KEY PART TO THAT, WHEN IS IT PAID OFF.

HOW WE CAN USE THIS FOR OTHER THINGS FOR THINGS IN THE FUTURE IT WAS A GREAT ASSESSMENT THAT YOU HAD PROVIDED.

SOME OF THAT THAT IS TURNING OUT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DEBT STRUCTURE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT REPORT. AND SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS AND HOW THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER UPCOMING THINGS.

IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PIECE OF INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> AS WE LOOK AT THE SPR A BUDGET IT IS A BALANCED BUDGET I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD EVER SAY THIS HERE AND INCREASE HER $2 MILLION. THE MAJOR REASON IT IS FAIR, THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) TAX WILL BE RECEIVED THERE THAT IS A PORTION , WILL THIS COMPUTER DO AN UPDATE ON ME? IS AN INCREASE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

THE PORTION WE ARE RECEIVING FROM THE CD IS $6 MILLION THIS YEAR WHICH IS ASTRONOMICAL. $6 MILLION GOES OVER TO OUR FPRA OF THAT $525,000 OF THAT IS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE

OFFICERS. >> CANNOT JUMP IN WITH CLARIFICATION. WHAT IS -- (SPEAKING TOO LOW).

>> I SAW THE CHIEF'S EYES LIGHT UP.

I HAD TO CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.

>> SOMEBODY WAS WATCHING YOU,. ALSO THIS YEAR, THEY ARE PROPOSING A 50,000-DOLLAR INCREASE TO THE SUNRISE THEATER.

THIS YEAR HE IS PROPOSING A 500,000-DOLLAR INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE THAT IS BEING SEEN AND THE MONEY BEING RECEIVED AND THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS HAS INCREASED.

TO AUGMENT SOME OF THAT COST, HE IS ASKING AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 BE TRANSFERRED OVER. THE EVERYTHING SAND THAT?

>> THERE IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET A MILLION-DOLLAR TRANSFER BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, THROUGH 2009, UP UNTIL 2014, THE GENERAL FUND HAD TO PAY ALL OF THE DEBT SERVICE COSTS FOR THE COSTS OF LOSS OF REVENUE.

AT THAT TIME, ORIGINALLY IT STARTED AT $9 MILLION.

AS THINGS GOT BETTER, WE STARTED TRANSFERRING TO HELP PAY THE AMOUNT. CURRENTLY ONCE WE DO THE MILLION-DOLLAR TRANSFER THIS YEAR THE REMAINING BALANCE WILL BE $5.4 MILLION. AGAIN THAT IS A NUMBER I NEVER

THOUGHT -- >> FPRA OWES THE CITY?

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>> THAT IS CORRECT. IF YOU CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE DEBT WAS TAKEN ON FOR THE PARKING GARAGE, IT WAS BACK SO WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS PAID.

>> MADAME MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, ITEM FOUR, THERE HAS BEEN AN UPDATE AND I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN CHANGE IN MANAGEMENT AND STRUCTURE. I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. THERE HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAD THE CONVERSATION. NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TOO DIGEST THIS BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE TRACKING. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE

ARE. >> WELL, BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM

FPRA, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> ON THE DEBT SLIDE, REGARDING THE FPRA, HOW LONG DOES THAT TRANSMIT, I THINK 2042, --

>> 2030 IS THE LAST YEAR THAT FPRA TENT MATURES.

IF WE DON'T TAKES ON ANY NEW, 2030.

>> THAT WAS ABOUT $20 MILLION? >> EX-PIT TRANSACTION A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A LARGE PIECE OF THAT. THE PRIMARY DEBT THE CITY CARRIES, IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, THEY HAVE VIRTUALLY

EVERYTHING. >> I THINK MARINA HAS THE LONGEST TERM. AND 2031 WE WILL BE DONE WITH

ALL OF IT. >> SOME OF THE TERMS OUT AND

SOME OF IT DOESN'T. >> THE EARLIEST OR THE LONGEST

INVESTMENT LONGEST IS THE -- >> HE WILL FIND A PROJECT.

>> THAT STRUCTURE IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE BECAUSE SO MANY DOGS CAP TO BE INDICTED. A LOT OF IT HAS DIMINISHED OVER TIME. $94 MILLION, LIKE YOU SAID.

THAT TO ME. >> THE COMMISSIONS WORKED HARD

TO GET THAT DONE. >> ANOTHER REASON I ASKED.

AS WE PLAN AHEAD, LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS LOOKING AT THE DEBT SERVICE AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS FAR AS THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND REINVESTING TO TAKEN ON ADDITIONAL DEBT, MAYBE NOT AT THE HIGHEST INTEREST RATE, HOPEFULLY INTEREST RATES ARE DOWN, AND BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING, WE KNOW AT SOME POINT THE CITY TOOK ON THE TASK OF PAVING STREETS AND NOW PROGRESSING IN A FORWARD DIRECTION IN ADDITION TO INFRASTRUCTURE DOWNTOWN.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON THE TIMELINE JUST THINKING AHEAD WITH THE TIMELINE.

I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME EXCITING THINGS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL.

JUST THINKING AHEAD. THANK YOU.

PEEK ANOTHER QUESTION, DID THE COMMISSION OR MANAGEMENT TEAM MAKE A DETERMINATION RELATIVE TO TURN THAT OUT OR IS IT MORE OF WE NEED TO CHECK ANNUALLY TO SEE THE AVAILABLE CASH TO PAY BACK

THE CITY. >> THAT IS WHAT WE DO.

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HOW MUCH REVENUE IS THERE AND HOW MUCH THEY COULD TRANSFER AND STILL HAVE MONEY TO DO THE TRANSFERS.

IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGETS IT WAS $500,000.

LASHER $600,000. THIS YEAR WE ARE SEEING

$1 MILLION. >> GREAT PROGRESS.

>> OKAY, PROCEED. >> OKAY LOOKING AT THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AS YOU WILL SEE HERE, WE ARE INCREASING ALL OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS EXCEPT STORMWATER AND OUR BUILDING FUND FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THESE BUDGETS ARE RECEIVED, I WORK WITH THE ACTUAL DIVISION MANAGERS OR DEPARTMENT MANAGERS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE AS FAR AS PLANS FOR REVENUE AND THE CURRENT EXPENSES COMING UP FOR THEM. AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE MARINA.

THEN INCREASE, SOLID WASTE HAS BEEN INCREASED.

$89,000 FOR THE STORMWATER. $95,000 FOR THE GOLF COURSE.

$37,000 FOR SUNRISE. AND MAINLY THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO SOFTWARE. THEY BUDGET IT FOR THE PURCHASE OF SOFTWARE IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR END I'M ASSUMING IT HAS BEEN PURCHASED SO NOW THEY JUST HAVE THE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION COST. THE ANIMAL SHELTER WHICH IS NEW, THERE IS AN $80,000 INCREASE BASED ON THE PROJECTION THAT PEGGY AS PROVIDED TO SAY WHERE SHE THINKS SHE WILL BE NEXT YEAR

>> IS THE SUNRISE GOING UP OR DOWN.

>> IT IS GOING UP $37,000. >> THAT IS A TYPO.

>> I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THERE.

>> IT IS INCREASING. >> THOSE ARE FUNDS DEBATE

GENERATE THEMSELVES. >> THE PLUSES AND THE MIND.

THEY WILL SPEND IT. THERE ARE INCREASES IN REVENUE AND THEY HAVE FPR REFUNDS. AND THE AMOUNT THAT DOES GO TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THAT IS THERE.

LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOW GOING OVER.

>> CORRECT. AND YOU WILL GET BACK WITH US.

>> THE LEDGER DOES NOT REFLECT THAT.

>> IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A DECREASE.

>> OKAY ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. >> POSITIONS FOR THE ENTERPRISE.

THEY ARE WATCHING EACH OTHER. THERE ARE SIX POSITIONS.

THOSE ARE THE FIVE BEING TRANSFERRED OVER AND ONE WAS FOR A CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATOR. I AM ASSUMING THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THOSE THREE. IT TIES INTO THE WATERWAY'S

PLAN. >> THERE ARE FOUR POSITIONS IN

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OH, BEFORE WE MOVE OVER ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, THE ONLY THING HERE ARE THE POLICE GRANTS AND THE FPR A. I HAVE NOT INCLUDED THE GRANT ADMINISTRATIONS BECAUSE AS OF NOW WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED AS OF YET OUR ALLOCATION. SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO WE WILL GET THAT NUMBER AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SPENDING PLAN. BUT THE POLICE GRANTS, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEARS THREE-POINTER MILLION DOLLARS.

THERE WAS A DECREASE. THIS IS SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THAT IS THERE. THESE ARE THE FIVE OFFICERS AND THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?

>> THOSE ARE OUR PROPOSED BUDGETS.

INSERT ANY DISCUSSION. WE ARE HERE ALL DAY.

WE ARE READY TO DISCUSS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE ALL OF OUR WONDERFUL DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT REALLY QUICKLY.

>> THE NUMBERS THAT YOU STATED, I GUESS YOU STATED SOME FOR THE NATION AND SOME ARE NOW. COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR ME THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE BASING THE INCREASE ON.

I THINK IT WAS IN CONNECTION WITH THE 5%.

>> THIS CURRENT BUDGET, WHEN WE BUILT IT, WHICH WAS LAST YEAR,% IT WAS A .5%. BECAUSE OF THAT WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE FOR THE EMPLOYEES AT THAT TIME.

THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, AS I WAS BUILDING THE BUDGET WHICH WAS LAST MONTH, THE END OF MAY, IT WAS 4.9%.

CURRENTLY IT IS FOR .05%. THAT IS WHAT THE NATIONAL CPI IS. FLORIDA HAS A SEPARATE, OUR OWN STATE CPI. THE CURRENT IN FLORIDA, FOOD AND ENERGY IS TAKEN OUT, IT IS FIVE-POINT 3%.

AND WHEN WE ADD IN FOOD AND ( INDISCERNIBLE ), WHEN I WAS BUILDING THE BUDGET IT WAS DIFFERENT.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A REPORT ON WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING FOR THESE ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND SUPPORT BRIEFLY.

I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THIS LEVEL AND BEING WAS

GIVEN. >> HE HAD A CONCEPTUAL PLAN

PRETTY GAVE TO US. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IT UP AND RUNNING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SINCE WE ARE BEING HERE, I SAY WE GET THE TWO MINUTE VERSION.

>> I REALLY BELIEVE THIS PROGRAM THAT DEAN IS LOOKING TO INITIATE FROM A SAFETY SECURITY AND PROPER MANAGEMENT OF OUR WATERWAYS. ANCHORED VESSELS ARE NOT JUST A

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>> THE PROGRAM STARTS WITH BUDGET.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL TO BE ABLE TO STAFF WHAT WERE LOOKING TO STAFF.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE PORT DIRECTOR.

HE HAS MOVED THIS TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THE COUNTY AS TO INITIATE PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET ORGANIZED. WITH THAT I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE DIRECTOR ON WHAT HIS ADMINISTRATOR SAID AND WHERE THEY WILL GO FROM HERE. ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO TALK TO YOUR COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

WITH WHAT YOU HAVE SAID, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NEXT TEN YEARS AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

THERE OFFICERS PULLED SOME OF THEIR OFFICERS AND SOME OF THEM ARE GETTING PULLED IN. IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH MIGRATION THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE AS WELL AS MEXICO AND IT DOES HAVE IMPACT TO OUR AREA. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS. AND GIVING AN UPDATE TO WHERE WE

ARE. >> I AM EXCITED.

THE SOONER THE BETTER. TO GET IT UP AND OPERATIONAL.

YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE AS YOU MATURE IN WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING FURTHER INFORMATION BACK.

>> PART OF MY VISION IS I THINK WE NEED TO BE FRIENDLY ON THE WATERWAY. IT IS TO LET THEM KNOW A LOT OF THE NEW LAWS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO LET THEM KNOW YES, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THE PUMP ON YOUR VOTE STRIKE VOTE. PART OF THAT PROCESS IS WHERE I WILL HANDED TO THEM WHEN THEY COME TO PUMP OUT.

I THINK IT IS GREAT ADVERTISEMENT AND IT PUTS SOMETHING IN THEIR HANDS INFORMING THEM OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. KEEP IN MIND, THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH WHATEVER ISSUES THEY HAVE, WE ARE HERE TO HELP. WE WILL GO OUT AND EDUCATE THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

ON TOP OF THAT IF WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WE WILL ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ENGAGE WITH US SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN COVER A LOT OF GROUND IN A DAY.

AND ANY PROBLEM ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH IT WE WILL WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAY CAN YOU JUMP ON THE BOAT WITH THE SPIRIT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT IS WHERE I SEE THIS HANDED.

WE WANT TO STAY WATERWAY FRIENDLY.

BUT WE HAVE TO PUT IN RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE WATERWAY.

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AND SUGGESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A GENERAL OBSERVATION. GOING BACK TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING. AS I REFLECT ON THE BUDGET WHEN WE GO INTO BUDGET. I SEE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS.

THE REASSURANCE CONCERNS ME BECAUSE WE ARE REEVALUATING OUR ASSETS. EVEN IF WE FOLLOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMERCIAL MARKET, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH IN OUR BUDGETED YOU SAY WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE FORECASTING BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW SO I AM CONCERNED.

FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND THIS IS WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMES IN, HAVE WE ANTICIPATED WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME TO OUR FRONT DOOR AND WHAT WILL THAT MEAN, PROTECTING OUR CITY.

HAVE WE PUT THE CONTINGENCY IN OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE I AM

CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. >> WE HAVE OUR WONDERFUL CHIEF RIGHT HERE. OF COURSE WE WILL NOT GET INTO SPECIFICS BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD SO

FAR. >> JUST LOOKING AT THE ECONOMICS

OF THIS. >> WERE CAD WILL SHINE BRIGHTLY.

UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS SHINE, IT WILL COST SPIRIT WE HAVE NOT FOUND THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT. WORKING WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT THE PRICE BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXPENSE TO THE SECURITY OF OUR CITY.

AND THUS FAR WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE TO THAT BUT WE HOPE THAT THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED WE

WILL GET A RESPONSE. >> MAY BE 30 DAYS OR 60 DAYS, MAYBE THIS MAY BE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE CITY MAYBE THREE WEEKS OF COVERAGE. AND IT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY

$1 MILLION PER WEEK. >> MAYBE $1 MILLION PER MONTH.

OR PER WEEK. AND YOU ARE TRACKING ERROR

CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM.

WE WILL BE TRACKING EVERY EXPENSE AND WERE ASKING ALL OF OUR PARTNERS TO TRACK ALL OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE SHOWCASE AND WHAT IS BEEN SPENT OUT AND WHAT SHOULD BE REIMBURSED.

THIS WILL INCLUDE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE HERE.

>> WE WILL BE COMING UPON OUR NEW FISCAL BUDGET.

WHERE ARE THE CONTINGENCIES BUILT IN I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE PAID.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT OR PREPAY AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE WILL

WEATHER THIS. >> LET ME ANSWER THIS.

WE HAVE A 10% PROTECTION FOR EMERGENCIES.

I STRONGLY CONSIDER WHAT WE ARE FACING AN EMERGENCY.

IF WE ARE IN A PREDICAMENT WHERE WE HAVE TO FIND THE FUNDING

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>> WE ARE A COASTAL CITY AND THAT IS SUMMER TIME THAT WE ARE SHINING ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECTS AND WHAT THE STAFF DO.

I WANT A SENSE COMMISSIONERS TO THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND EVEN THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND, MY FINANCE DIRECTORS TELLING ME WE HAVE SOME PLANS ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALWAYS BUILDING FOR THIS TIME UP -- TYPE OF YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN THRUST INTO.

>> AND CHIEF, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, IT'S A LITTLE OFF OF THE SUBJECT. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE VICINITY AND THEY ASKED ME IF THEY WILL BE IMPACTED AND I HAVE SAID YES, I AM ASSUMING SO BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. AT SOME POINT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER SO THEY CAN MAKE PLANS FOR EXPANSION THE PLAN IS STARTING THIS WEEK.

ARE WE GOING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS, WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY SO WE CAN EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND THE POSSIBLE CLOSURES.

WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT MAY BE AND TO PREPARE THEMSELVES. THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO THE CITY AND WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE THEY CAN HAVE AND GIVE IT TO THEM AND IT WILL BE FORTHCOMING.

>> THANK YOU I WAS THINKING OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE ARCANE AND

EVEN THAT NEW VEGETABLE PLACE. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE

SURE. >> NOT AS MUCH AS WE ARE GOING TO BE. BUT YES.

IT IS ACROSS THE STREET, CORRECT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE CHIEF? >> THIS IS A RATHER UNUSUAL EVENT. BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND YOUR INTERACTION WITH YOUR PARTNERS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL BE REIMBURSED OR DO WE HAVE BEEN ASKED OUT THERE THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE FULFILLED OR IS IT OPERATING STANDARD PROCEDURES TO SAY WE NEED TO ANTE UP THE MONEY TO PAY THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS ON THE FRONT LINES OF BUSINESS.

>> I HAVE CHECKED WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND WITH SITUATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND SOME ARE STILL WAITING TO BE PAID.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN PAID BUT EVERYTHING WAS ON A REIMBURSEMENT AND SOME ADD TO GO THROUGH SOME CHALLENGES TO GET REIMBURSEMENT WE ARE HOPING WITH OUR WORK GOVERNMENT AFFILIATED TO THE SUCCESS IN GETTING THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE THAT WE

NEED. >> SEEMS OUTRAGEOUS TO ME.

NOT THE COST THAT WE ARE EXPECTED TO FOOT THE BILL AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY DETERMINE THEY WILL HAVE IT HERE I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE MECHANISMS ARE I'M SURE YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT BUT THAT EXPECTATION FOR A SMALLER MINUTES ABILITY IS SIMPLY INAPPROPRIATE.

I WILL PUT IT LIGHTLY. IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IN

SOME CAPACITY. >> EVERY MEETING WE HAVE THAT IS THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK. HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE IN THE SENSE OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO US.

NOT ONLY US BUT ALL OF THE OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WE MAY HAVE TO GO AS FAR AS INDIAN RIVER AND DOWN SOUTH TO MARTIN COUNTY.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE OURSELVES AND

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OUR OTHER PARTNERS. >> IF YOU BRING IN OTHER PARTNERS, AGAIN, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THEM, OR ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING IT?

>> THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PORTION.

WE ARE THE COLLECTORS. BUT IF THEY ARE PEOPLE HERE AND OVER THEY PAY IT OUT OF THEIR BUDGET.

THIS BECOMES PART OF THE NEGOTIATION WILL WERE TALKING TO THESE PARTNERS BECAUSE THEY ARE US WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING

FROM. >> AND THEIR ANSWER WILL BE WERE

NOT GOING TO SUPPORT YOU. >> LET ME JUST SAY, I HAVE NOT HAD THAT HAPPEN. NO ONE HAS SAID THEY WILL NOT.

THE QUESTION IS, IT ADDRESSES HOW WILL WE BE REIMBURSED, AND I

DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. >> CHIEF YOU ARE THE COLLECTOR OF THE INFORMATION THAT GETS TRANSMITTED TO THE PARTNERS TO SEEK THAT REIMBURSEMENT BACK. GENERALLY FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, IS THERE A PRIORITY LIST, I'LL DOES THAT WORK,.

>> THIS IS A YOU PUT IN FOR $1 MILLION WHO DETERMINES WHO GETS OUT OF THAT PIECE, IS THAT A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION TO

FIGURE OUT WHO GETS WHAT. >> MORE THAN LIKELY, THIS IS FOREIGN TO US. IT IS BRAND-NEW.

>> YOU ARE BORROWING AND HOW DO YOU REIMBURSE AND AT WHAT LEVEL WHO GETS WHAT ESPECIALLY IF IT IS SHORT OF THE TOTAL PICTURE.

WHATEVER WE SUBMIT FIRST THEY MAKE IT HAPPEN THEN YOU

DETERMINES WHO GETS IT. >> THIS IS SOMETHING, AND I'M COMING TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW WITH SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THIS MAY CALL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE, I DON'T KNOW A PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE THIS IS COMING AND THIS WILL AFFECT THE CITY AND INSTEAD OF THROWING ROCKS WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER. WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, WHATEVER WE CAN SAY WITHOUT GETTING IN TROUBLE. WE CAN DATE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THE BUDGET. IT IS ALMOST LIKE SOMEONE USED THE TERM HURRICANE. WE KNOW THERE IS A DISTURBANCE OUT THERE AND ONCE WE KNOW IT'S COMING AT US WE NEED TO PREPARE BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A MADHOUSE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES IN THE AREA FROM ME DEALING WITH MAJOR EVENTS LIKE THIS, THERE IS ALMOST A 2-MILE RADIUS, NO TRAFFIC NO ACTIVITY WE JUST NEED TO PREPARE.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY SO I'M LOOKING AT A TIME TO SAY LET'S TALK ABOUT IT LET'S GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND GO FROM THERE. THE CHIEF REALLY CAN'T SAY EVERYTHING, ONCE WE KNOW FOR SURE MAYBE A SPECIAL MEETING

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I WOULD ASK THE CITY TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE COME BACK AND PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.

WE WON'T GET CALLED OUT. BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT WHEN THE CHIEF SAID $1 MILLION PER WEEK, I THINK THAT WAS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER. WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT. IF OUR RULES ALLOW US TO COME BACK, WE WOULD ALL BE ON THE SAME SPEECH -- SAME PAGE.

>> I JUST WANT THE CITY TO KNOW WE ARE WORKING HARD AND THE CITY

WILL BE PROTECTED. >> IF I MAY ADD JUST TO REASSURE YOU, I HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATING AND TRYING TO PROJECT AND PLAN FOR IT. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PROCESS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. I EVEN MADE A CALL TO THE STATE AUDITOR TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION AND WAYS TO HOW WE DO THIS. I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MY COLLEAGUES YOU WILL GET IT. IT MAY BE 5-10 YEARS LATER.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS OR BAD NEWS IS TO TREAT IT AS FEMA.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TOPICS TO COVER.

>> OKAY, I AM OKAY WITH THE CURRET MILLAGE RATE.

>> COMMISSIONERS ARE WE OKAY? OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM.

[b. Proposed FY 2023 - 2024 Capital Improvement Program]

IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. >> WE WILL HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER TO DELIVER A SPEECH FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

>> MR. ANDREWS. >> GOOD MORNING.

AS ALWAYS I WOULD LIKE TO COME BEFORE YOU AND BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON WHAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WHERE WE ARE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR END WHERE WE ARE PROJECTED TO GO FOR THE NEXT YEAR. GETTING STARTED, WE CONTINUE TO WHITTLE AWAY AT OUR STREET RESURFACING.

THE 2022 STREET RESURFACING WE EXTENDED AND WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THAT BUDGET EVERY YEAR. YOU REMEMBER A FEW YEARS BACK OUR RESURFACING BUDGET WAS NEXT TO NOTHING.

AND WE CONTINUE TO PROGRESS WITH THE HELP OF THE'S SURTAX.

>> DOUBLE BUDGET WAS NEXT TO NOTHING.

>> >> THE DILAPIDATED SECTION WE DID WORK WITH SPEED TABLES ONE ON MANY RONAN ONE ON FAIRWAY

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OF REQUESTS. >> IT HAS BECOME VERY POPULAR.

WE CONTINUE WHITTLING AWAY AT THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

AND EXPECT THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO BE UNDERWAY.

BEACH COURT WAS A STORMWATER PROJECT.

WE REBID THE UNDERGROUND STORM TRAINING.

WE BUILT THE ROAD AND SIDEWALK. WE WENT IN AND DID THE WATER AND SEWER. AND NOW AND AND THIS IS FOR THE DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALKS AND WE ARE NEARING COMPLETION ON THAT PROJECT. THE STORMWATER PROJECT, IT DRAINS THE OHIO AVENUE AREA AND GETS THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE THAT IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF DELAYS ON THAT BUT STILL MOVING FORWARD ON IT.

THESE ARE PROJECTS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN THAT WE HAVE.

WINDOW ROAD. A WHILE BACK, WE DID THE PLANS AND THEIR. WE LOOKED AT DOING AN MSB YOU AND THE PRICES WERE JUST TO MUCH FOR THE RESIDENTS TO HANDLE.

THIS IS JUST CHIPPING AWAY AT THE BITS AND PIECES OF THE ROAD.

THIS IS ALSO THE WATER AND SEWER THAT I NEED.

GOING IN THERE AND DOING THE UTILITIES FIRST.

THIS IS THE SECTION OF THE ROAD THAT IS CURRENTLY COUNTY ROAD AND PROCEEDING TO ACQUIRE THIS FROM THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE PLANS. THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE BRIDGE. THIS IS A COSTLY PROJECT.

THIS IS A NICE PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMING THIS IS OUR LAST UNPAVED STREET. WE TRYING TO DO THIS IN-HOUSE AND AND THE BASE WHERE THE DESIGN PLANS FOR THAT, WE ARE

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OUR STREET RESURFACING. WE ARE CURRENTLY DATING.

WE ARE DYING TO DO A UNIT PRICE CONTRACT WHERE WE HAVE A CONTINUING SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS THAT WE CAN GET PRICES LOCKED IN. THIS IS CURRENTLY OUT TO BID RIGHT NOW WE ANTICIPATE WE WILL GET THIS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

BY THE TIME WE GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION WE ARE ALSO INCREASING THE PRICE THIS YEAR OHIO AVENUE WERE READY TO START.

THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING STARTS NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR ON BOARD READY TO GO.

WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION TO BE READY IN AUGUST.

THIS IS THE WHOLE SECTION. AND SO WE ARE READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION, AND THOSE COMMANDS ARE SENT TO GO THE SECTION FROM U.S. WITH THE GRANT AND THE MAKEUP OF THE FIFTH MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE GRANT IN PLACE. WE SHOULD GET THIS TOGETHER AND PROCEED. I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND JEOPARDIZE ANY OF THE GRANT MONEY.

THIS IS THE PUNCH TRAIL SIDEWALK.

SCIENTISTS THINK THIS PROJECT BE OUT.

THIS MONTH. >> WHAT IS THE OVERALL COST FROM

THE PROJECT? >>

>> ANOTHER PROJECT, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT INVOLVES BASICALLY ALL OF THE STREETS OF A1 A.

IT IS PRECONSTRUCTION OF ALL OF THE AREAS AND ON THE STREETS IN THAT SECTION. PR AND FOUR PER $1 MILLION THAT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF COPPER SMU FUNDS ONE MORE TRY TO GET

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THESE ARE ALL ALL OF THE AREAS. THE SAME WAY WITH 16TH AND AVENUE Q WE'RE DOING THE DESIGNS IN-HOUSE.

AND OUR PARKING LOT, THIS IS PROCESS FROM THE PARKING OF THE MUSEUM. WE HAVE THAT UNDER DESIGN.

AND USUALLY CONSTRUCTION FOR NEXT YEAR.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE RECENTLY GOING FOR A FREE DESIGN AND GOING FOR WHEN SHE FINISHED THIS IN-HOUSE LINK WORKS WILL THAT WORK DID I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

I DID PROVIDE A COPY OF OUR UPDATED CIP FOR YOUR USE.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THESE PROJECTS GOING.

>> AND JUST FOR THE WE ARE STICKING TO THEM.

>> WE ARE CONTINUING KNOCK DOWN THE LIST AND WE ARE ON SCHEDULE WITH THAT. WE ARE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR OTHER PROJECTS BECAUSE AVENUE D. E A LOT OF MONEY.

NOW WE CAN OFFSET THAT AND WE CAN ASK AND EXTEND THAT MORE

RESURFACING. >> CAN YOU HELP ME, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS OF YEARS AGO, PARTICULARLY ORANGE AVENUE 13TH STREET. AND THAT IS A MALE ROAD IN MY OPINION. THERE IS FLOODING ISSUES OVER THERE. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT IS, Z IS NOT A RESURFACING BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING TO RESURFACE, WHAT IS THAT IN THIS PROCESS AFFECTS.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS ONE WE KEEP LOOKING AT.

I KEEP TRYING FOR DIFFERENT GRANTS FOR THAT.

AND I THINK WE ARE THE PLACE WHERE HE CONTINUED TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE LIMITS AND DEALS WEA GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE ONE FROM

$5 MILLION THAT WE MADE. >> THAT IS A FAILED ROLE.

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>> THIS IS THE OTHER HALF. I GIVE MORE COMPLAINTS AND NOW WE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED OR LOOKED AT THAT THIS IS FROM GEORGIA.

WE ARE I KEEP TRYING TO MONEY TOGETHER YOU KNOW.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> NEXT ITEM IS THE SOLID WASTE

[c. Solid Waste Rate Study - Mike Reals, Public Works Director]

RATE STUDY. >> WE DO HAVE THE SOCIAL DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND WE HAVE PETER HERE PETER HAS BEEN HELPING OUT THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WAY BACK IN TEN, HELP US OUT DISCUSS SOLID WASTE AND SEE, I BELIEVE THE SOLID WASTE DIVISION PROVIDES THE MOST FRIENDLY SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE TREASURE COAST. THIS, WOULD YOU HAVE SEEN AS A MEANS FOR US TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE.

I WILL TURN IT OVER THAT THIS MOMENT.

>> AS I SAID IS BEEN A GREAT JOB VERY LITTLE PRESS LITTLE PRESS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. WE HAVE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS, AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY. SHE TO BELIEVE OFFER SOLID WASTE SERVICE IS SECOND TO NONE. I DON'T THINK THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN TOUCH THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.

PETER IS HERE TODAY, EARLIER THIS YEAR YOU VERSUS KICKING HIM ON BOARD. AND HE IS HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS OF THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE AND IDEAS GOING

FORWARD. >> PETER, AND ACTUALLY MY PULSES

MITCH KESSLER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HERE. AS NICK AND MIKE WERE SAYING, WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY PROJECTS.

I HAVE SOME FAMILIARITY AND PART OF OFFER SCOPE IS THE TIMELY FUND. IN WE ARE ALSO FOLLOWING THIS WITH THE OPERATIONS AND THE DEFICIENCIES AND ALTERNATIVES, FOR LOOKING AT REVISED LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL.

TODAY, I HAVE 4-5 TOP WANT TO SHARE.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION.

AND THE FINANCIALS OF THE POND. WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH A COMPARISON OF THE STRAITS CHARGED VERSUS MOTHER COMMUNITY AND SEE WHERE YOU ARE IN RELATION IN RELATION TO THE FRONT OF THEIR CUSTOMERS ALSO, THE COST ANALYSIS.

YOU HAVE DONE A DEEP DIVE TO DETERMINE THE RESIDENTIAL

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-- SO HERE AT FORT PIERCE WE HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE.

RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES FOR THE MAIN SOLID WASTE SERVICES RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE, TWICE PER WEEK.

RECYCLABLES ONCE PER WEEK AND YARD WASTE ONCE A WEEK AND THEN A WEEKLY IN TRASH AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU PICTURES SO THERE ARE CAN SERVICES AND BULK SERVICES. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A 211.

THIS WILL COME UP SO I USE THIS AS A SHORTHAND GOING FORWARD.

THE COMMERCIAL SIDE SIX TIMES PER WEEK THEY CAN COLLECT A 2-8-YARD CONTAINER. THEY HAVE A RECYCLABLE OFFER THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A BUSINESS OR THEY CAN GO TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR THAT TYPE OF SERVICE. ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS ARE COLLECTED FOR THE PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL.

AFTER LIKE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK FINANCIAL SNAPSHOT.

99% OF IT IS COMING FROM COMMERCIAL FEES.

THE EXPENSES ARE ON THE BOTTOM. YOU ARE SEEING SALARIES AND BENEFITS. I CALLED THOSE ARE 57 OF THE EXPENDITURES THESE ARE PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL FEES AND IN TOTAL 70% IS DIRECTLY MINDS. THIS WILL NEW LINE AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS EXPENDITURES AND ASSOCIATED PRIMARILY WITH INCREASES IN SALARY AND BENEFITS. THERE'S BEEN FUEL COSTS INCREASE AND MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR INCREASE THE COST OF TRUCKS AND WHATNOT. YOUR EXPENSES ARE EXCEEDING THE REVENUE. AND THUS THE FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN DECLINING. RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTION IS AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THEY WILL ESSENTIALLY HAVE NO RESERVE FUND LEFT THERE. FORT PIERCE AND ARSENAL SECOND THAT AND PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE. %-ÚE HALLMARK OF WHEN A CITY IS PROVIDING SERVICE EMPTIES THE SWITCH INTO CUSTOMERS AND WHATNOT.

IF I WERE TO PUT THIS INTO CONTEXT, YOU SAW THE SERVICES FOR YOUR YARD WASTE. THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO 1.7 CUBIC

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THIS HAS BEEN MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. CONTINUITY THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.

ALSO AS YOU ARE AWARE THERE HAS BEEN SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND CHALLENGES WITH QUALIFIED PERSONNEL FOR OPERATION OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND MORE. THERE HAS ALSO BEEN NATIONAL INCREASING GROWTH HERE. THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN MANAGING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPACT ON THE BALANCE. AND THERE IS ALSO NOT BEEN A RATE INCREASE IN 2016 SO IT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE TOPIC OVER TO CUSTOMER RATES AND THOSE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. BUT FIRST I WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY SAYING WE HAVE A SAYING IN OUR COMPANY, THE RATES THAT ARE CHARGED IN ANY COMMUNITY DISTINCT AND DEFINED BY MANY FACTORS AFFECT THE ONES THAT COME TO MIND FOR ME ARE YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE PROVIDED.

YOU CAN ALSO BE DIFFERENT METHOD OF COLLECTION, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, EVERY COMMUNITY, THE RATES CHARGED THOUGH REFLECT THE ACTUAL RATES. MANY COMMUNITIES TO CROSS SUBSIDIZE THE COMMERCIAL FEE IS SOMETIMES A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE COST TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AND THE RESIDENTIAL FEE IS LOWER SO DOING THIS TO YOUR CUSTOMERS, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING IN MORE DETAIL AND WILL BE ON OUR FINAL REPORT FOR THE RECYCLING.

IF WE BREAK IT DOWN AND SAY THIS IS THE COST FOR EACH LINE OF BUSINESS WE USE THAT WHEN WE DEEP DIVE SO YOU CAN LOOK AT HOW YOU REFINED THE FEES THAT YOU CHARGE CUSTOMERS.

ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, WE JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU WHEN WE GET TO THIS SLIDE. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THE BLUE BAR IS THE RATE THEY ARE CHARGING AND THAT IS AROUND 25.

THAT IS THE COMBINATION. THE RECYCLING.

IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY CHARGE IF I WERE TO SUMMARIZE THIS CHART WITH A SIMILAR COMMUNITIES WHICH ARE PROVIDING A SIMILAR LEVEL OF SERVICE. IF WE LOOK HERE THEY DO NOT PROVIDE RECYCLING OR CURBSIDE. IF YOU THINK THIS OFF YOU ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING A COMPARABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT EIGHT OVER CONSTANT FEET THEN YOU CHARGE YOUR CUSTOMER.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE STATEMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREAT ONES, ONES THAT MAY BE A SIMILAR COST PROVIDE A LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE IF WE LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THE FORT PIERCE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, AND COMPARING IT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDES COMMERCIAL SERVICE.

IN MANY COMMUNITIES COMMERCIAL GARBAGE IS PROVIDED THROUGH A FRANCHISE WHICH IS DONE AT A COUNTY LEVEL, THERE IS A COMMERCIAL FRANCHISE OR OPEN MARKET WHICH MEANS YOU CAN SEE WHERE FORT PIERCE RATES ARE LOWER AND IF WE WERE TO CALL OUT SOME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THIS DARKER BLUE ONE WHICH IS AN

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YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT RATES SO FORT PIERCE, $272 PER MONTH. AND DEERFIELD BEACH ARE OVER $500 PER MONTH. SO, THE STATUS ON OUR WORK FUEL, WE FINISHED THE ANALYSIS AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF COSTS. WE HAVE DONE REVENUE REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE DONE A FIVE-YEAR PROJECTION OF COST GOING FORWARD AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT TWO DIFFERENT RATE SCENARIOS. AND THE IMPACT ON FINANCES AND A SCENARIO WITH A RATE INCREASE AND WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE FUND BALANCE. WE HAVE THAT AS A GUIDELINE.

WHAT I SHOULD SAY AS A SIDE NOTE AT THIS POINT, 10% OF OPERATING EXPENSES IS A LITTLE MORE, LESS THAN TWO MONTHS OF THE EMERGENCY SERVICES. IF YOU REALLY IN A POSITION WHERE YOU COULD NOT BILL YOUR CUSTOMERS YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO COVER YOUR SERVICES SIMILARLY IF YOU WERE TO HAVE WAS COMING UP WITH ADDITIONAL INFLUX OF WASTE DEGENERATING ACTIVITIES HERE, WITH POTENTIAL TRIAL LOCATION YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COST AND IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.

THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THAT

BALANCE. >> CURRENTLY WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS AND GOING FORWARD WE WILL FOCUS ON THE RATE STUDY AFTER PEOPLE LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES IN THE OPERATION. WE WILL LOOK AT METHODS OF REFINING OUR PROJECTIONS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, EXCUSE ME I GOT BEHIND. I JUST WANT TO CONNECT AND CONNECT WITH MY NOTES. FINALIZING RATE SCENARIOS WITH STAFF MEETING A REPORT. IF IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THIS AS YOUR BUDGET PROCESS GOES FORWARD.

SOME OF THE KEY PARAMETERS, WE DID FIVE-YEAR PROJECTIONS.

WE ASSUMED THE 2% ANNUAL GROWTH. AND THEN WE USED A 3.5 AVERAGE CPR WHICH IS A LONGER TERM. WE KNOW IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO PROJECT GOING FORWARD. WE KNOW THAT IS AN AVERAGE ACROSS THE BOARD. AS WE DIAL-IN WE CAN ADJUST THE RATE ANALYSIS AND SALARY AND BENEFITS ON SALARY AND BENEFITS VERSUS ANNUAL INFLATION AND COST INCREASE, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS TO THINK OPERATIONALLY, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL, THE TOOTH ON ONE SERVICE WE TALKED ABOUT. THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE FOR TRANSITIONING TO A PURCHASED FLEET.

WE ALSO, BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS AND THE EXISTING CAPACITY OF THE FLEET END, WE ARE PROJECTING THEIR WILL NEED TO BE AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE PUBLICITY, I'M SORRY I DON'T% HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS IF YOU ARE PLANNING SIX CREWS, YOU WILL NEED TO ADD ANOTHER ONE. WE ALSO NEED ONE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROVED TO BE ADDED. AND YOU NEED ANOTHER CREW OUT THERE ON THE ROADS COMPLETE THE ROUTES.

THE TRANSITION TO A FLEET IS ALSO PART OF OUR WORK HERE.

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WE HAVE MANY CLIENTS TRANSITIONING THIS ARRANGEMENT.

SO, PROJECTIONS ON THE REVENUE AND REVENUE REQUIREMENTS.

IN THIS CHART WE ARE LOOKING AT A BLACK LINE WHICH IS YOUR REVENUE. AND THEN A BLUE LINE WHICH IS EXPENSES. WE ARE LOOKING AT HISTORICAL AND THE GREEN LINE DOWN IS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE REQUIREMENT.

AS I INDICATED YOU WILL HAVE THE COST OF SALARY BENEFITS.

INFLATION AND INCREASED PLEAT IN SUSPENSION THESE ARE DRIVING THE GROWTH EXPENSES, THE BLUE LINE. ALL IN ALL WE ARE LOOKING AT, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE IS A A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE SOLID STANDARD PRICE.

TO THE TUNE OF $600,000 IS WE ARE EXPECTING AND INCREASING TO $2 MILLION IN THE OUT YEARS. THE FUND BALANCE, I WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS CHART A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE SEVERAL LINES ON HERE.

THIS IS THE CUMULATIVE FUND BALANCE.

THIS IS VERSUS WHAT WOULD BE MAINTAINING IT AT PRESENT.

THE DOLLARS WHICH ARE IN THE BLUE WE ARE SEEING THIS, AS I NOTED FROM A PREVIOUS APPLIED BOTH ACCUMULATE.

SO IF YOU ARE DOWN 1,000,001 YEAR THEN YOU ARE DOWN THE NEXT YEAR END IT ACCUMULATES. THIS IS ALL BASED ON THE THIS IS GOING NEGATIVE VERY QUICKLY. THIS IS THE INITIAL RATE SCENARIO THIS WILL BE NEEDED IN YOUR COMMERCIAL FEES IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN FUND BALANCE 15% IS THE GREEN PART.

WE ARE LOOKING AT 50% INITIALLY FOLLOWED, WE ARE USING THE FIVE EXIT TO KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION RATE THE RESERVE FUND BALANCE, AFTER DIPPING NEGATIVE GOING INTO A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE THIS VERSE ONE WILL THEN BEGIN TO REBUILD A FUND BALANCE.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD AND STRIVE A FUND BALANCE OVER HERE AND THEN MAINTAINING A PERCENTAGE AROUND TO PRESENT. IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT INCREASE FOLLOWED BY AN ANNUAL INCREASE.

I MIGHT KNOW WHEN LOOKING AT THE OTHER COMMUNITY SEVERAL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE DOUBTED THEIR FEET INCREASE.

ESSENTIALLY FROM YOUR CUSTOMERS PERSPECTIVE WAS OPERATIONAL YOU CAN PLAN FOR FUTURE YEARS RATHER THAN POSTPONING RATE INCREASES FOR MULTIPLE YEARS OR SEE THEM OUT OF LARGE INCREASE.

SEVERAL CUTIES ARE LOOKING AT SAYING WE WILL PROJECT THAT OUT SO THAT EVERYONE CAN MAKE PLANS AS WELL AS OPERATIONS WE DO LIKE

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WE ARE FULLY AWARE THAT MANY OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES AFTER OPENING RATE INCREASES IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS DUE TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF THE ENDEMIC. MANY ARE LOOKING AT INCREASES GOING. T, DOES THIS MEAN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS. THE GREEN BAR IS THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE. AND THE BLUE AND YOU CAN SEE DOWN HERE WHAT IT IS THAT 15% INCREASE WOULD.

UP TO $29. THIS IS EQUAL TO $3.79 PER MONTH GOING FULL THE ANNUAL INCREASE MEANS 1 DOLLAR PER MONTH, APPROXIMATELY IT VARIES COMPARE LOOKING AT INCREASES IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS. FOR THE COMMERCIAL RATES.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HAVE TAKEN THIS AS AN EXAMPLE THESE ARE THE RATES FOR ONCE PER WEEK SERVICE FOR YOUR CONTAINERS.

IF WE LOOK AT YARDS ONCE A WEEK, THIS IS THE SMALLEST LEVEL.

IF YOU GOING FROM THIS TO THIS WHICH IS AN INCREASE.

THE 8-YARD CONTAINER WOULD GO FROM DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM THAT IS AN INCREASE OF $32 PER MONTH.

SO I HAVE SUMMARIZED WE TALKED ABOUT.

THIS HAS BEEN MANAGED VERY WELL AND MAINTAINED IT SERVICES IT HAS HAD TO FACE CHALLENGES WITH MAINTAINING AND RETAINING DRIVERS. THIS HAS BEEN ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT HAS BEEN CHALLENGING FOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR TO ATTRACT AND MAINTAIN EXPERIENCED DRIVERS AND MECHANICS.

BOTH PLAY THIS HAS BEEN DONE IS INCREASING THE PLAY TO THE CRITICAL SERVICES LIKE THE DRIVERS AND MAINTENANCE STAFF.

AND SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, THERE WAS THE TURNOVER THAT FCC IS COLLECTING THE SPACE AND THEY WERE COMING IN AND THEY WERE OFFERING ATTRACTIVE SALARIES AND PULLING SOME OF THE DRIVERS OVERNIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS PUBLIC SECTOR CITIES CAN PROVIDE, NOT ONLY COULD THEY PUT SALARY AND BENEFITS. IT IS THAT BENEFIT PACKAGE.

BUBBLE GAUGE NEEDS TO BE ATTRACTIVE SO YOU CAN RETAIN THE DRIVE PERSPECTIVE GOOD DRIVERS, GOOD MECHANICS, FOLKS WHO KNOW THE CITY, KNOW THEIR ROUTES TO KNOW THE TRUCKS AND THE INDIVIDUAL TRUCKS AS OPPOSED TO OUTSOURCING WORK YOU DON'T HAVE THE FOLKS WHO TRULY KNOW THE CITY OR THEIR FLEETS WELL.

THAT CAN IMPACT THE QUALITY OF SERVICE.

GOING FORWARD, IF I WERE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE I'M WORKING WITH ANOTHER COMMUNITY WHERE THEY HAVE A PRIVATE HAULER COLLECTING GARBAGE AND THEY ARE, IT IS ONE OF THE NATIONL FIRMS, THEY ARE FLYING IN DRIVERS FROM TEXAS IN ORDER TO GET OUT ON A ROUTE MONDAY MORNING AND COLLECT ON THE ROUTE THEY NEVER DONE BEFORE. I'M JUST OFFERING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. YES, THEY CAN GET THE DRIVERS AND TRUCKS BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A KNOWLEDGEABLE GROUP PROVIDING THIS HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND MAINTAINING THE TRADITION GOING FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY THE FINANCIALS ARE REQUIRING AN ADJUSTMENT. WE LOOKED AT A RATE SCENARIO.

AND 15 GET YOU TO MAINTAINING THIS BALANCE.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

DISCUSSION? >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS. THE COMMUNITIES YOU COMPARED US TO SOUTH FLORIDA, AND SARASOTA THEY ARE MORE FINANCIALLY MORE UPSCALE THAN US. THOSE ARE COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA FOR THE COST OF LIVING IS MORE EXPENSIVE.

I AM JUST MAKING THAT AS AN OBSERVATION, THE COMPARISONS.

AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU CAN ONLY COMPARE IT WITH THE STAFF PROVIDED THE SERVICES AS OPPOSED TO A FRANCHISE THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T SUPPORT GETTING OUR DRIVERS AND UPGRADING OUR SERVICES, BUT I DO BELIEVE THOSE COMPARISONS ARE NOT REALLY LIKE FORT PIERCE AND THE COST OF LIVING IS MORE EXPENSVE IN THOSE CITIES. ALSO, AND BUSINESS MAY NOT BE FOR YOU, FOR A GOOD MANY YEARS SOLID WASTE GAVE A LOT TO HELP WITH THE GENERAL FUND APPEARED SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED THAT HAS STOPPED THAT, AND DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT

NEXT. >> MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT PETER JUST GAVE, ANTICIPATE THAT TRANSFER. THE AMOUNT IS THEY ARE ANNUALLY FORWARD. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE TRANSFER

-- >> AND I THOUGHT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED. WE RECENTLY WERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR ROLLING STOCK AND THAT BRINGS ME TOO, IF THEY ARE LEASED, IF THEY ARE LEASED, WE STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE

UPKEEP? >> MADAME MAYOR, LEASED IN THE SOLID WASTE INDUSTRY IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING.

>> GOOD, I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU GO.

>> AT THE END OF THE TERM U-TURN A VEHICLE IN AND GET A NEW ONE.

THE AMOUNT OF WEAR AND TEAR THEY USE IN THEIR LIFETIME THEY ARE FINANCE. THEY ARE FINANCE IN AT THE IN P OWNED THEM. IF YOU RECALL FOR THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD A PLAN ON HOW WE WILL INSTITUTE THE LEASE PROGRAM AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK.

THE GOAL WAS A SOLID VEHICLE'S HAVE A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 5-7 YEARS AND ON THE GOING TO ENTER INTO THE PROGRAM AND POLICY HAD USEFUL LIFE IN THE VEHICLE, GOING TO SELL IT SO WE COULD GET ECTOMY BACK TO GO INTO A CONTINUING PROGRAM ENDED IN THE DIM A KID. WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO ORDER A TRUCK AND GET IT IN 90-120 DAYS NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT 18 MONTHS TO GET A VEHICLE. IT HAS REALLY SLOWED DOWN OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN, BUT AS THE POLICE BLEAT AS THE WHITE FLEET VEHICLES THAT STAFF DRIVES, BOTH VEHICLES CAN COME WITH A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. THE SOLID POLICE VEHICLES DO NOT WE STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE IN OUR.

>> STILL NEED THE MECHANICS AND EVERYTHING I WANT TO SAY, OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, DID WE SHOW HOW VALUABLE THEY WERE IN THE FULL SITUATION WHERE OUR NEIGHBORS WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR FRANCHISE AND THEY REALLY REINFORCE HOW VALUABLE IT IS I WAS VERY PLEASED ABOUT THAT AND WOMAN I AM MAKING PRESENTATIONS I REMIND PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE SHOULD GO THE WAY OF THAT FRANCHISE TOO.

I EMPHASIZED THE FACT YOU'D NEED THE SERVICE THERE AND YOUR

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JURISDICTIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION. SOLID WASTE IS IMPORTANT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT OR DECREASE THE SERVICE, MANY AFTEREFFECTS OCCUR. SO I DON'T EVER WANT TO GO THERE AN APPROACH THAT SUBJECT. I THINK THE CITY DOES A GREAT JOB WITH THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.

I AM EXCITED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I TALK ABOUT IT WHEN I SHARE WITH FOLKS HOW GOOD OF THE JOB WE DO.

I APPRECIATED. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND THE DEFINITION OF YOUTH TERM AS LEASE.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE COMPETITION FOR BUYING THE VEHICLES.

IF YOU SAY WE ARE FINANCING IT, THERE IS COMPETITION.

YOU HAVE TO ORDER A VEHICLE NO MATTER HOW THE FINANCE WORKS.

>> IT DOES NOT PUT YOU AHEAD OR BEHIND THE LINE, IT IS A LONG SUPPLY CHAIN RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, SOME OF THE NATIONAL AND REGIONAL PLAYERS WHEN THEY ARE PURCHASING VEHICLES, THEY PURCHASE DOZENS.

TABLE ALL CAPS HIGHER PRIORITY. WHAT IS THE VARIABLE THERE'S THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A SMALL CUSTOMER.

THEY WILL PUT IT INTO SEQUENCING BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CLIENT WHERE THE DELAYS WERE SO SIGNIFICANT IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN THE MANUFACTURE CAME BACK AND SAID OUR COST HAS GONE UP AND I KNOW YOU HAVE YOU IN LINE NINE MONTHS AGO BUT THEN THEY WERE SAYING, ATTEMPT TO INCREASE OUR COSTS IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN

YOUR PLACE IN LINE. >> MAY BE THERE IN A CHANCE, MAYBE WE SHOULD COLLABORATE IN GROUP TOGETHER, WE HAVE HAD OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT HAVE MET, WITH PURCHASING, IT IS A BUYING POWER THREE IN THE DAY. AND YOU DO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE

YOU CAN PURCHASE VEHICLE. >> THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GETTING OUT OF HER COMPETITIVE PRICING JUST A CHALLENGE WE WERE TALKING YOU RECENTLY APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF AN AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER. AND 12 AT 15 MONTHS THE VEHICLE PRICE WENT UP $90,000. AND THE WEIGHT WENT FROM 18

MONTHS. >>> A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.

CONTRACT WITH A COLLECTIVE. >> I WILL PREFER ABSTRACT.

>> COMMISSIONER CHALFANT THAT IS INITIALLY 815 YEAR TERM THAT WILL COME ABOUT IN 2027. WE INITIATED THE CONTRACT IN 2012. I DO BELIEVE IT HAS TWO RENEWAL

OPTIONS. >> WITH THE RATE STRUCTURE

VARIABLES AND THEIR COMPLEX. >> CORRECT.

WE ARE NOW IN THE PORTION WHERE OUR RATE IS ADJUSTED.

WE HAD A NICE GRACE PERIOD FOR A LONG TIME WHERE WE SLAVED MONEY BUT NOW ANNUALLY, WE SEE AN ADJUSTMENT.

>> I WANTED INSIDE THAT INTO WITH YOUR ARE TODAY FOR THE 28 STRUCTURE CHANGE AND MAKE SURE THAT I HAD IT IN MY HEAD CORRECTLY THAT THOSE TWO RUNNING PARALLEL WITH HER RUNNING PARALLEL WITH ALL OF THE OTHER EXHIBITS THAT YOU OCCUR.

TO THE ABOVE COMMERCIAL DEFINED COMMERCIAL FOR ME.

WE HAS A COMMISSION WE SEE MULTIPLE PROJECTS COME BEFORE US AND BROKE CHARGED UP IS THAT CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL CRACKS.

>> IT CROSSES INTO POPE. WE LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF THE METHOD OF COLLECTION. IF IT IS IN A DUMPSTER, THAT IS CLASSIFIED AS COMMERCIAL COLLECTION.

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>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE CLEAR ON THAT.

>> THERE IS A VARIANCE REPORT FOR CITY PURPOSES, WE ARE LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL, ANYTHING FOR PLEX OR SMALLER, ANYTHING LARGER IS MULTI FAMILY.

YOU MAY HAVE MULTI FAMILY THAT HAS A 96-GALLON CART.

WE DO HAVE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS THAT RECEIVE CARD SERVICES.

AND I WAS ONLY COMMERCIAL. >> WE ARE DISCUSSING ACROSS THE

BOARD MODIFICATION. >> YES, EXACTLY.

JUST A MAGNITUDE SO ONE CAN DIAL IN A CAREFUL ANALYSIS IF YOU WISH TO CHANGE THE RATES BETWEEN DIFFERENT CUSTOMER TYPES THAT YIELD IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PRESENT TO YOU HERE.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WEAR AND TEAR AND VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND FUEL AND MAINTENANCE, WE SHOULD NOT.

SO MUCH. WE ARE TRASH PICKUP VERSUS SINGLE CONTAINER AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. THAT IS WHERE I AM GOING IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS. I ALSO LIKED THE PICKUPS PER WEEK. I THINK WE ARE USED TO THAT OF THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND COMPLAINTS LIKE WHAT AM I GOING TO DO AND IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE PEOPLE IN PORT ST. LUCIA, USED TWO TIMES PER WEEK. ALSO GETTING INTO THE SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE RECYCLING CONVERSATION, AS FAR AS RECYCLING, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES IN THE STRUCTURE AND HOW YOU'RE DOING IN OUR LOCAL TREASURE COAST WITH RECYCLING. THE SCENE FOR CYCLING IN THINK WE THINK WE COUNTY. ANY NEW TECHNOLOGIES MEAN IMPLEMENTED THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF PLEX.

>> FEES AND PROCESSING FACILITIES.

SRS. FINANCE, TECHNOLOGY SEE MOVEMENT OF HIGHER LEVEL UNDER MY PETITION -- -- WE ARE SEEING GOING FORWARD IS COMMUNITIES, THERE IS ALWAYS A COST CYCLING CAN OPERATE EQUIPMENT OR CURRENT COSTS.

THAT FACILITY COSTS MONEY. SOME ARE OFFSET BY THE COMMODITIES REVENUE PUT THERE IS A COST FOR RECYCLING OUR BUILDING INTO THE COST PROJECTIONS THAT THERE BE A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH BRINGING MATERIAL TO THAT FACILITY.

>> I AM IN FAVOR AND PUT HIS TEAM TO CLOSE.

PERSONALLY, AS A INCIDENT I HAVE THE MICROPHONE IN FRONT OF ME I THINK I HAVE HAD A GOOD DEAL BUT 16 WAS THE LAST INCREASE I BELIEVE IN ON THE DAIS AT THAT TIME TODAY I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A GOOD DEAL. WHEN I VISIT FAMILY IN NORTH CAROLINA I HAVE TO HAUL MY TRASH 3 MILES DOWN THE ROAD INTO THE ROLE COMMUNITY. IN COMPARISON TO HEAR IT IS NICE

TO BE PICKED UP AT THE GROVE. >> YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND BRINGING THIS TO US.

[d. Island Wastewater Reclamation Facility Relocation Update - Javier Cisneros, FPUA Utilities Director]

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ISLAND WATER RECLAMATION

FACILITY LOCATION UPDATE. >> JUST TO WRAP UP THE PREVIOUS ITEM BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK AND EVERYTHING PRESENTED WE WILL

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OF THOSE RATE INCREASES. >> THAT IS THE ORDER OF THE DAY.

EVERYTHING WILL COST MORE. I HOPE YOU WON'T SAYING THAT.

>> RIGHT NOW WE P.M. OUR FRIENDS AT THE UA THAT WILL GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE SEA. TEAM AS NEW INFORMATION TO

SHARE. >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

IT IS OFFERED IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY PRACTICAL CENTERS ARE MIKE AND THE PUBLIC SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER.

ARM ALSO JOINED IN THE AUDIENCE BY OUR MADAM CHAIR AND I WOULD DIRECTOR -- AND I WERE DIRECTOR. TODAY WE WILL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE RELOCATION OF THE WASTEWATER PLANT IT WILL INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND I WANT TO START BY GIVING A RECAP.

IN THE EARLY SUMMER OF 2021 SAPP WAS CHARGED RELOCATING THE WASTEWATER PLANT BIBLE BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION.

THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS MOVE THIS AS QUICKL AS POSSIBLE.

BY ONE HAD A CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD.

FAST FORWARD AND WE ARE NOW IF THE FINAL PHASE WILL BE TAKING THIS TO THE BOARD TOMORROW. TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL ALSO EMPHASIZE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THIS PROJECT AND I WE WILL CONTINUE TO TO SOAP THAT IS WHY THIS PRESENTATION WILL LOOK FAMILIAR WITH A FEW UPDATES.

WITH THAT I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. HUTCHINSON.

>> GOOD MORNING MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

TODAY'S AGENDA AS HE MENTIONED, ALONG WITH THE OTHER THINGS TALK ABOUT, A LITTLE BIT HAS CHANGED. WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGING THINGS IN THE WORLD AROUND US WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AS EVERYONE ELSE WITH INFLATION AND THE CONTRACT WE WILL TALK ABOUT FOR THE CONTRACT PRICE AND THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO TALK ABOUT GRANTS AND OUR ONGOING COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY AND A TIMELINE UPDATE.

FIRST OFF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE IS GOING VERY WELL AND THAT IS DESPITE THE ORIGINAL RAIN WE HAVE HAD.

WE HAD A GREAT JOB INDICATING THAT ALL OF THE LAND FORCE CLEARED AND BROUGHT TO GRADE ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DRAINAGE PIPES AND STRUCTURES ARE IN. THE MAJOR POND IS IN.

THE LINE POND IS IT THE TRIP STARTED CONSTRUCTION FACILITIES ARE IN YOUR WORKING ON GETTING BILLS HOOKED UP TO FACILITIES.

AS MENTIONED BEFORE PER CONTRACT WILL GO TO UNCLE FORWARD TO TOMORROW ASSUMING NEXT DAY THE VERTICAL BUILDING PERMITS.

THE SYSTEM IS MOVING AT A PARALLEL PATH SINCE THE LAST SYSTEM MODEL HAS COMPLETED. WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE INTO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING. THE 30% PORTION OF THAT PROTEIN COMPLETED IN THE NEXT MONTH AND WE WILL GET THAT FINISHED WITH COST ESTIMATES. WE DO HAVE A STAFF STRUCTURE IN PLACE WITH MIKE OVERSEEING THE PLAN IN THE ENGINEERING GROUP OVERSEEING THE CONVENIENCE SYSTEM.

THE WORLD AROUND US. WE ALL KNOW OUR BELOVED GOVERNOR IS THROWING HIS HAT IN THE RING FOR THE PRESIDENT.

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE POSITIVE FOR US.

THE GOVERNOR AS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AND OTHERS LIKE IT. IF HE WINS HE CAN STICK IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IF HE STAYS HERE SHE WILL CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK. THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE ITSELF HAS MADE SOME BIG MOVES. THERE WAS A PUSH TO PUT PUBLIC UTILITIES UNDER THE PUBLIC COMMISSION.

THERE IS A SENSE OF THAT COMING BACK NEXT YEAR EVEN THOUGH IT

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THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE PROTECTION OF THE LAGOON.

WE ARE ALREADY TAPPED INTO THOSE FUNDING STREAMS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE TAPPING INTO IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

ANOTHER ONE ON THE POSITIVE IS ALL COMING SOON.

KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GRANDS IS ACTUALLY THE MAGNITUDE HAVE RECEIVED AND PLAN ON RECEIVING IN THE FUTURE, GETTING THE GRANT IS ONLY PART OF THE STRUGGLE.

GRANT MANAGEMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCE THAT IS ITS OWN CHALLENGE FOR SURE. A TREMENDOUS EFFORT NATIONWIDE.

INFLATION, WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS WE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT.

IT IS TO BE EXPECTED. IT IS IN EVERY FACET OF OUR LIVES. THE CHART IN FRONT OF YOU IS HYPER. THE AVERAGE PRICE IS UP YOU CAN SEE THE WATER PIPE IS UP WHEREAS THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAINAGE PIPE IS ONLY UP TO 20% AND STARTING TO STABILIZE.

WE ARE STAYING AHEAD OF THIS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THIS WAS PART OF THE LAST CONTRACT TO GET PRICES LOCKED IN ON MAJOR EQUIPMENT TO HELP WITH OFFSETTING SOME OF THIS.

THIS HAS NOT ONLY IMPACTED THIS PROJECT THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM AND WASTEWATER EXPANSIONS. THE GAS DEPARTMENT THAT HAS THEIR EXPANSION, IT HAS AFFECTED THEIR PRICES AND THE ELECTRIC INDUSTRY. THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE ON THIS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INDEXES AND YOU SEE 40%, THEY ARE ALL LIKE THAT.

THE ONE THAT JUMPS OUT AT ME AS THE LABOR PRICES.

IT HAD ONLY GONE UP 4%. THAT TELLS ME IT IS COMING.

YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD COSTING MORE & REESE NOT SUPPORTING THEM IT IS COMING, WE ALL KNOW IT IS COMING TO TRY TO KEEP THE COSTS UNDER CONTROL. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE DID WAS SCRUTINIZE THE CONTRACT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTOR LIKES TO CALL MAKING SURE WE ARE GETTING THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR THE RIGHT MONEY THAT INVOLVES STAFF GOING THROUGH EVERY LINE WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND MAKING CUTS THAT WE CAN MAKE UP FRONT.

BOTH ARE EFFICIENCIES AND A LOT HAVE BEEN FOUND DURING CONSTRUCTION ANYWAY BUT IF WE COULD GET THE MONEY NOW THAT HIS WILL. THERE WAS ALSO TEACHERS THAT CUT FROM THE PROJECT AS WELL. BASICALLY ANYTHING NOT ESSENTIAL WAS SCRUTINIZE. ANYTHING THAT WAS LEFT IN HERE, THAT IS WHAT I AM CALLING NONESSENTIAL IT WOULD BE SOMETHING, TO TWO IN A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE".

IF YOU HAD AN EXTRA PUMP THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INSIDE OF A CONCRETE BUILDING USE. IN THE MONEY TO BRING THE PIPING INTO THE BUILDING NOW. BRINGING IN LATER WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL. THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO A PRICK NICKEL AND FINANCIAL REVIEW, THE LEGAL REVIEW, AN ATTORNEY THAT SPECIALIZES IN CONTRACTS HELPED US WITH THE CONVENIENCE AND IT HAS BEEN WORTHWILE.

WE ARE TAKING THE FINAL CONTRACT FOR THE MAXIMUM PRICE TO BE ON BOARD TOMORROW. THAT IS THE IN AND NOW WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO TALK ABOUT GRANTS AND FUNDING.

>>> THANK YOU I WILL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE FUNDRAISING SIDE

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AS WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A LARGE PROJECT.

WE ARE TRYING TO TACKLE THIS FROM ALL ANGLES.

AS FAR AS THE GRANTS THIS YEAR SO FAR WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED $20 MILLION. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR TO ACQUIRE GRANTS FOR THIS PROJECT. WE RECEIVED $50 MILLION FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND ANOTHER $5 MILLION FROM THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE THROUGH APPROPRIATION AND ALWAYS WITH GRATITUDE TOWARDS THE SUPPORT FROM LOCALS. ENDING RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORT $1 MILLION FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT WAS APPROVED. IT WAS APPROVED OUT THERE LIST OF PROJECTS BUT NOW IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE TEP AND THEY HAVE TO APPROVE THE LIST AND THE WAY IT WORKS IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY RECEIVE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PROJECTS TYPICALLY WE ARE HOPING TO HEAR SOON ABOUT THAT. THOSE FUNDS ARE DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE REUSE TREATMENT PLANT WHERE WE THINK THE WATER FROM THE COOLING TOWERS INSTEAD OF THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

IF WE TO RECEIVE THAT FUNDING IT IS INTENDED FOR THE FIRST YEAR WE DID PROVIDE WITHIN THE APPLICATION AND NOTICED THAT WE WOULD APPLY FOR THE YEAR TWO TO PAY FOR THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT SYSTEM. WE HAVE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS APPROPRIATIONS REQUEST NEEDED AND AGAIN, GRATITUDE FOR PUTTING THAT IN FOR US. WE SHOULD BE HEARING THIS WEEK, THE SUBCOMMITTEE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL MEET THIS WEEK AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE WILL GET A PRELIMINARY NOTIFICATION OF WHERE WE STAND THESE WON'T BE APPROVED UNTIL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPROVES THEIR BUDGET.

WE SHOULD HAVE AN INDICATOR AT LEAST THIS WEEK AND POSSIBLY NEXT WEEK, SOME POSITIVE NEWS AS WELL.

FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, THEY ONLY SUBMITTED TWO PROJECTS FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR. HOURS AND ONE OTHER, AND ALSO IT WAS PRIORITIZED AS NUMBER ONE. HOPEFULLY, THIS IS GOOD.

WHAT CAN HAPPEN, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THEY CAN PUT A CAP ON THESE APPROPRIATIONS AND YES THEY WILL PUT IT THROUGH BUT THEY WILL ONLY CAP AT $5 MILLION WHICH IS WHAT IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. BUT WE ASK FOR MORE SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPEN. CREEK AND DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE THREE THAT ARE IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.

TEP JUST STARTED THEIR RESILIENT FUNDING, SO WE WILL SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR COST INCREASES THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL FUND REQUEST BECAUSE OF INFLATION. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY ARE SEEN ACROSS THE BOARD AND THERE'S A SPECIAL APPLICATION.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN ADVISED THAT FOR THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM TO PUT IN A SEPARATE PROJECT PROPOSAL WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL. YOU WILL RECEIVE FUNDING FOR THE SYSTEM IT WOULD BE TO ACTIVE PROJECTS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE APPLICATIONS AND THE DP RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE WASTEWATER GRANTS PROGRAM WHICH INCLUDES WASTEWATER MONEY.

THAT IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE GRANT OPPORTUNITY IS NOT RESILIENT FLORIDA. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

ALL. BOTH ARE DUE OCTOBER 31.

WE WILL BE WORKING HARD. THE BIG THING IS HAPPENING TO PUT IN A SECOND APPLICATION FOR THE CONEYANCE SYSTEM US TO DOABLE NOBILITY ASSESSMENT ON THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM WHICH HAS TO DO WITH SEA LEVEL. THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WE COULD DO THAT ON OUR OWN PER CAPITA THIS YEAR CAP TO BE IN THE STATE'S PLAN WHICH IS COUNTY LEVEL IN THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THEIRS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TRACKING THIS AND WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING FUNDING FOR THE GRANT.

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WE ARE IN BETWEEN AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO STAY ENGAGED.% FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE WORKED WITH MIKE MARTIN WILL RECEIVE THE PLANT, AND THE CONSTRUCTION. P AS DEVELOPED WITH OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS SPECIALIST PUT TOGETHER AND ALL ABOUT THE WASTEWATER PLANT RELOCATION AND THE SEWER WORK WE ARE DOING ARE DOING PROJECTS OPEN WE GO THROUGH EVENTS, WE HAVE MATERIALS TYPICALLY PRESENTING THE RELOCATION OF THE PLANT AND THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS RELATED IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY. WE ARE ALSO INCLUDING INFORMATION WHERE WE CAN. TRYING NOT TO DO IT TO MUCH, BUT WHEN WE HAVE UPDATES WE TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE INSERTS.

AND THE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE PRESENTED SOME VERSION OF THIS MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR AT HOA MEETINGS, WATER MANAGEMENT MEETINGS, AND MORE. WE ARE ALSO UPDATING THE WEBPAGE AS UPDATES ARE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE ALSO DONE TARGETED FUNDRAISING MEETINGS. THIS IS LINKED TO THE GRANTS BUT ADJACENT AS WELL. MORE TIED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IS WE WANT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THE FUNDIN, OVERSEEING THE GRANTS, TO BE FAMILIAR WITH US AND OUR FACES AND CAPABILITIES AND COMMITMENT TO THIS PROJECT. SPEAK WE DO HAVE THE LOBBYISTS THAT ARE IN D.C. AND TALLAHASSEE THERE IS TREMENDOUS VALUE TO SENDING. WHEN WE BOTH GO WE HAVE THE TECHNICAL SIDE AVAILABLE FOR WHAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY WE ARE USING AND THE COMMUNITY SIDE WHERE WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK IN BOTH ARENAS FOR THE RELATIONSHIPS WE ARE PROBING.

I THINK IT IS GIVING THEM CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL SEE THIS THROUGH WHICH MAKES IT EASIER TO SEE THIS THROUGH THIS THROUGH.

THIS IS BALLISTA PC AND THIS IS THE LIST OF TALLAHASSEE MEETINGS. -- THE LIST OF WASHINGTON D.C.

MEETINGS AND THIS IS THE LIST OF TALLAHASSEE MEETINGS.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE TO 15 MINUTE MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO SQUEEZE US IN PRAYER TAKEN THE TIMELINE UPDATE, WE ARE FINALIZING AND CONVINCING THE CONTRACT TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TOMORROW.

WE ARE STILL ROUGHLY ON TARGET. THERE ARE SOME DELAYS WITH THE PRICING AND GOING THROUGH THE PRICING.

WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE END OF THE DAY TIMELINE FOR DECONSTRUCTION AND MOVING OFF OF THE ISLAND MOVING FORWARD WE WILL HAVE OTHER AFTERNOONS AND APPROPRIATIONS.

SOMETHING COMING UP A LOT MORE FOR US, THE NOTION THAT FUNDING THIS OVER FIVE YEARS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO AS A SNAPSHOT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FUNDING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE ANOTHER $20 MILLION OF GRANTS AND MORE COMING.

ALL IN YOUR 1. THIS WILL KEEP GOING.

THE MINDSET IS CHANGING. THIS IS SOMETHING WE FUND THIS WEEK THOUGH. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING AND IT IS WORKING WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LAUNCHING THOSE WHO GRANTS WITH CONTRACTS WITH THE STATE. WITH THAT I WILL PASS IT BACK AND SPANK YOU STAFF FOR THE GREAT UPDATE.

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JUST LIKE DISCUSSION FROM MOST OF THE PRESENTATIONS, WE ARE ONLY A SMALL PART OF THE OVERALL EQUATION OF WHAT IT TAKES TO LIVE IN FORT PIERCE. WE ARE DOING, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING WE ARE PURSUING, WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING TO HELP MINIMIZE EVERYTHING.

I WOULD LOVE TO THINK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION UPDATE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CAN DO DURING THE NEXT PHASE LIKE PERMITTING WITH THE STATE PARTNERS. ARE THERE ANY CHALLENGES OR HURDLES, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO THOSE PROCESSES? AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED TOMORROW IS TO GET OUR CONTRACTOR IN THE ROOM AND GET THE SUBMITTALS GOING. REALLY STARTING TO SORT THROUGH AND MAKE A LIST OF WHAT IS IN THE SCOPE TO INSPECT AND WHAT IS IN OUR RECORD TO INSPECT. ONCE WE GET BACK TOGETHER AND LOOK AT THE PROJECTS HOLISTICALLY, IF WE CAN GET THAT ORGANIZED FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEES WILL BE WE CAN MOVE RIGHT INTO THE VERTICAL PHASE.

>> WHAT ABOUT STATE DEPARTMENT ARNIE DISTRACTED MANY CHALLENGES? AND NO CHALLENGES THERE.

THE ROADWAY IS A PRIVATE ROADWAY THAT WE OWN.

WE HAVE HAD GOOD COMMUNICATION AND WE HAVE HAD A GOOD PLAN TO THE NORTH OF MOST. BASICALLY ALL OF THOSE ARE IN PLACE. THE NEXT MOVE WILL BE VERTICAL

CONSTRUCTION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I HAVE DIGESTED THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AND I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT IT IS A MULTIYEAR FUNDING. IT IS IMPORTANT THIS BODY UNDERSTANDS CONTINUOUSLY AND UPDATES.

WHAT TRANSPIRED A YEAR AGO IS IRRELEVANT.

WE LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD. I AM SYMPATHETIC, I WITH COST OVERRUNS DAILY. THE COST STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD. I HAVE LOOKED OVER YOUR POST AGENDA FOR THE MEETING TOMORROW AND I KNOW YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEEK APPROVAL TO AFFORD COSTS, AND COST NOT TO EXCEED.

I WON'T ASSUME IT WILL BE LESSENED EVEN THOUGH THE COST NOT TO EXCEED LEFT THAT I COULD MAKE THE ASSUMPTION.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS IS THERE ANY BOXED ADJUSTMENTS ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CONTRACT FOR LABOR. IS THERE ANY WIGGLE ROOM DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL TO GROW? AND I WILL LET MR. HUTCHINSON

ANSWERED THAT. >> NO, IT IS A GUARANTEED PRICE FROM THE CONTRACTOR. GOING THROUGH THE FINAL PHASE THEY WENT THROUGH ALL OF VENDORS AGAIN, THEY HAVE FIRST PRICING THAT IS LOCKED IN. IN ADDITION THERE IS A CONTINGENCY OF 500 DEATHS FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS ON THE LOW SIDE BUT IT IS BOTH DETAILED FOR WHERE THE #WE ARE ACTUALLY HOPING TO KEEP SOME OF THE CONTINGENCY OURSELVES.

NOT TO BE PESSIMISTIC WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT IS THE COST WE ARE

LUCKING IN. >> THAT INCLUDES IT.

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>> HAVING SAID THAT, I WANT TO GET INTO THE NEEDS ON THIS, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

YOUR CONTRACTOR HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT TO YOU, DO YOU THINK UTILIZE OUTSIDE SERVICES TO CONFIRM THE INFORMATION THEY ARE GIVING YOU IS ACCURATE.

LIKE A NEW SCENARIO. YOU CONTRACT AN OUTSIDER TO MAKE

SURE THE INFORMATION IS CORRECT. >> .

BE ON THE GROUND WITH THIS CHILD.

MIKE WILL BE THERE HELPFUL TIME. WE HAVE BUDGETED MONEY FOR A FULL-TIME INSPECTOR IF YOU NEED THAT.

THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE + PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING.

FIRST THING WE DID WAS WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ON THE TECHNOLOGY. BASICALLY EVERY STEP OF THE PLAY OF STAFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN OF THE PLAN.

THE ONLY TIME WE WOULD HAVE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT INVOLVED IS IF WE HAD A GRANT THAT REQUIRED IT.

IT DOES HAPPEN ON OCCASION. THE STATE REQUIRED US TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT CEI BUT IN THIS CASE THAT IS NOT PLANNED AS OF NOW.

>> THE AGENCY DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT COMPLEX.

>> NO, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> JUST A RECAP OF THE NUMBERS.

YOU INDICATED THAT 100 MILLION AS BEEN SECURED, 20 MILLION IS BEEN SECURED THROUGH GRANTS. THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO GIVE ANOTHER $150,000 IN APPLIED FOR GRANTS.

THAT BRIDGE WHO HAVE BEEN HUNDRED $33 MILLION.

>> THAT 13 IS MORE THAN APPLIED FOR.

THEY ARE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT IS BUT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AS FAR AS APPLICATIONS WE ARE DEVELOPING.

MORE APPLICATIONS. I DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR BOTH THAT IS FOR THE INCREASED COST DUE TO INFLATION FIGURE WILL COVER THE ENTIRE CONVEYANCE ESTIMATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN GET. ALL OF THIS IS WITHIN YEAR 1.

WE CAN START SPENDING IT FROM A GRANTS PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE TO SPEND IT. NOW WE CAN START WORKING ON THE

NEXT APPLICATIONS. >> I GET THAT AND I AGREE WITH THE DURATION AND SECURING GRANTS AND ET CETERA AS A CRITICAL COMPONENT. BASED ON MY ANALYSIS AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, FROM THE OVERVIEW IT APPEARS THE INITIAL PLAN IS VIRTUALLY COVERED BY THE GRANTS YOU HAVE SECURED OR YOU WILL SECURE. YOU THEN HAVE THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT NUMBERS ON THIS. I THOUGHT THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ON THE NUMBER WAS 50 MILLION.

SHOULD WE EXPECT THIS NUMBER TO BE AFFECTED BY THE COST INCREASES. WE WILL CALCULATE ANOTHER FACTOR ON TOP OF THAT. I AM ASKING THAT AND IT IS NOT A CRITICISM IT IS SHOULD WE CONTEMPLATE THIS.

AND IF WE DO WE ARE IN THE FIELD OF $65 MILLION FOR THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE CONCRETE INFORMATION FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. AND THERE IS NO COMMITMENT FOR FUNDING YET I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE GOING, SO THERE IS THIS DELTA IN PLACE TO BE PRODUCED BY ADDITIONAL GRANT IS THAT THEIR

BAGS. >> THE PLANTS ARE A LITTLE MORE FLUID THAN THAT. THAT IS WHY, I KEEP TRYING TO SAY THIS IS A CONTINUOUS THING WE ARE DOING.

FOR EXAMPLE THE $10 MILLION, IT MAY BE BETTER SUITED TO TARGET THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM IS NOT THE PLANT.

DEPEND ON THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING BECAUSE THE DP SAID THEY WILL PAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WASTEWATER THAN THE 10 MILLION

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SAME WITH THE WASTEWATER WE ARE LOOKING AT.

THAT MAY BE TARGETED TOWARDS THE CONVEYANCE.

SOME OF THIS DEPENDS ON HOW WE ARE ABLE TO STRATEGIZE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST. I WOULD NOT SAY THERE IS NO THEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT AS A SNAPSHOT, I THINK MAY LOSE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE EFFORT AND THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE CONTINUOU%

THAN JUST A SNAPSHOT. >> I THINK OUR PROP THIS QUESTION UP TO SAY I WILL WAIT UNTIL YOU GET YOUR FINAL NUMBERS CAN GET A BETTER SNAPSHOT. THAT IS WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT RIGHT NOW. I FEEL IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MONITOR FOR THE END THE END IN.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN AN UPDATE STRUCTURE THAT WE CAN SECURE INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD.

WE KNOW THE NUMBERS IN THE AGGREGATE WHAT IS THE PROGRESS BEING MADE TO DISSOLVE THAT OVER THE NEXT MONTH MARK THAT INFORMATION STREAM IS IMPORTANT INSTEAD OF GUESSING I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW IT BY HEART, I DON'T. I AM LOOKING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR INFORMATION TO SAY AS OF JULY 3, HERE IS YOUR HEAD.

ROLLING FORWARD SO NO TO CONTEMPLATE.

THE SUBJECT BEING IMPORTANT AND I THINK THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO SEE IT AS WELL. THAT IS THAT I AM SEEKING.

THIS IS BEING SIGNED FOR THE NECK OF 50-60 MILLION UNCOMMITTED. THAT IS MY MINDSET.

I UNDERSTAND THE PRIORITIES AND HOW YOU ARE LOOKING TO ENGAGE WITH THE DARK I LIKE THE INFORMATION FLOW TO BE CONTINUOUS DARK I DON'T WANT ANY SUPPLIES I KNOW THAT IS BOILING IT DOWN BUT IF WE ARE LOOKING AT A MILLION-DOLLAR UNFUNDED COMMITMENT. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.

RACHEL, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THAT DARK.

>> I WANT TO HOPEFULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS A MORE REGULAR UPDATE AND THE CONVERSATION HE HAD, WE WILL MAKE SURE TO GIVE YOU A PERSONALIZED UPDATE OUTSIDE OF THESE PATIENS TO GIVE YOU AN INSIDE TO THE PROGRESS AND FUNDING.

HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

>> SOME OF THE STUFF MAY DROP IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, IT IS NOT STATIC BY ANY MEANS. IT IS FLUID.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE LOSING SLEEP OVER THIS NOW, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY MORE SLEEP, SO IF YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS.

THERE IS A VARIETY OF BUSINESS INFORMATION FLOWING AROUND STATE COMBAT MISINFORMATION, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION OUT THE COMMUNITY AS MORE PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.

SO, YES YOU DID ANSWER THE ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WE ARE TO MONTHLY FROM HAVING THE FIRST PHASE DONE. AT THAT TIME, IN MY MIND IT IS THE FINANCIAL ASPECT WE ARE CONCERNED AS THAT CHANGE IS ANOTHER GRANT COMES IN OR THERE IS A BETTER ESTIMATE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU,

ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A GRANT. >> YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE

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>> AFTER THIS 30% IS DONE. THIS PIPELINE HAS TWO PEOPLE.

THE SMALLER STATIONS HAVE TO BE UP SIZE.

THE NEXT STEP IS TO BREAK IT DOWN AND PRIORITIZE SO WE CAN GET THE FLOW IN A LOGICAL MANNER.

WE WILL START BY FINDING THAT. THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO THE CONSULTANT AND SAY DESIGN THESE. THESE FAKE ONES TO START WITH.

AT THE POINT HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGNS HAVE OFF RAMPS. THERE IS NOTHING THAT GUARANTEES CONTRACTOR WILL BUILD THAT LINE. WE WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR NUMBERS. I IMAGINE THEY WILL BE GOOD.

BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO THOSE THINGS OUT.

AS THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THIS PIPELINE AND THEN COME BACK TO THE LORD FOR THAT.

I IMAGINE HE SHOULD BE, IN A FEW MONTHS ABLE TO FINISH THE FIRST PHASE THEN ANOTHER MONTH TO GET THROUGH THE CONTRACTING.

OUR FLEET EIGHT MONTHS FROM CONVEYANCE.

>> IF THAT IS THE THIRD CASE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR TIMELINES.

WHERE DOES THE NUMBER 50 BILLION COMES FROM TWO EXECUTE ON THE PROJECT. THE GUYS OUT.

HAVE YOUR GUYS LOOK AT THIS AND THOSE WHO HAD THIS IN MIND.

YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING OFF OF THOSE GENERAL ASSUMPTIONS.

BASED ON THAT THEY'VE BEEN AND DID THEIR OWN HOMEWORK ON IT.

THEY COMPARED NEXT LINE PART THEY FOUND SIMILAR JOBS SO THEY COULD GET AS CLOSE AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD THEN OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO TALKING TO THE BOOK CONSULTANT, WATCHING THE THING THROW ADDED AN ESCALATOR TO.

I LOVE TO COMMIT THAT TODAY, BUT I CAN'T.

>> I DO THINK IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THE INTENTION, I THANK YOU FOR ASSUMING THAT THE ORIGINAL NUMBER AND I THINK THE NUMBERS BELOW FOR. 45-50 IS LOOKING AT A SNAPSHOT AND WERE SCARED EARLY ON IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, SO HE CAN'T GIVE YOU ANYTHING CONCRETE. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT IS UP

FRONT BEFORE. >> TIME REVEAL THE ANSWER ONE MORE QUESTION QUESTION RELATIVE YOUR BACKUP PLAN.

I KNOW YOU HAVE DISCUSSED THIS IN DETAIL.

IS THE STATE OF FLORIDA COMPLEXITY AND FROM SIMPLER GOING OUT ON THE ADDITIONAL MONEY THE LEAST DESIRABLE SOLUTION. 1% MONEY THROUGH THE STATE, IS THAT YOUR PRIMARY MECHANISM ASSUMING YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT FUNDING SOURCE AS SURE NEXT LINE OF DEFENSE.

>> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THE LAST RESORT, YOU HAVE ANY MORE

OF THE POND AND RACHEL THAT. >> JUST TO CLARIFY THIS I COMES BACK TO ME. THIS LIVES IN THE SAME PLACE AS THE GRANT FUNDING WE HAVE SEEN THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

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IF YOU DO PURSUE THIS AS A "FUND LOAN IT IS ABOUT 1% INTEREST.

THAT IS COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE SEEING ABOUT THE TIME THAT I DON'T KNOW THE IDEA IS IF WE GO FORWARD THE SRF LOAN IT IS BECAUSE COULD NOT FIND GRANT FUNDING PROCESS PROJECT.

YOU'RE CALLING A LOT OF GRANT FUNDING INTO IT.

IT IS A PATH ABILITY. THERE ARE INCOME -- WE ONLY PAY INTEREST ON WHAT WE WERE. IF WE TO RECEIVE ENOUGH GRANTS AND IT IS LOW INTEREST AND YOU ONLY PLAN WHAT YOU USE THEY HAVE PERIODICALLY HAD UNIQUE FUNDING THAT COMES THROUGH FOR HURRICANES. THE DEFINITION OF WHAT QUALIFIES THE DEFINITION OF QUALIFIES IS BROADER WE CAN GET A POSSIBLE HURRICANE DEFINITION OF FUNDING. THEY BELIEVE MONEY THE STATE TO BE USED FOR'S DORM HARDENING AN% A BROADER DEFINITION WHICH MEANS ONE OF THE AVENUES WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR THE FUNDING

AVAILABLE. >> WHEN I HAVE JUST HEARD WHAT TRANSPIRED TOMORROW, AND ASKED THEM TO APPROVE THIS DESIGN AND BUILD PROJECT. I HAVE HEARD MCMS IS CALLED THE GUARANTEED PRICE BASED ON ESTIMATES.

PERSONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND SAY IT WILL COST MORE TO PROMOTE THIS. PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.

AM I WALKING AWAY HEARING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL

PLAN. >> WILL BE KNOW NOW, WALL STREET HAS SOME MONEY WE HAVE GRANT PROCESSES GOING AND EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, MAYBE IT WILL BE $1 MILLION SHORT.

OF THE GRANTS COME THROUGH FULLY AND THE MAP ADDS UP, MAYBE 500-1 MILLION WE MAY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.

IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING NEXT NOW HAVE TO GET THE STUFF MOVING NOW, WE HAVE THE FLOW OF SELF COURTING NEXT.

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IT COMES BACK TO THE GRANTS. THAT IS RYAN MATT.

IT IS THAT IT IS I DON'T KNOW HOW HE FELT MARKET OR THOSE COMPANIES THERE. IF THEY SAY IT IS BUT IT IS WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR THE STAMP TO GIVE MATERIALS FROM SOMEWHERE. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

MY APPROACH TO THIS IS RAW MATERIALS, AND DESIGN PHASE THAT IS ALL YOU TWO THINGS GOING WITH.

BUT THE DRUG COMES FROM SOMEWHERE AND THAT STUFF COSTS MONEY AND ALSO THE DELAY. EVEN THE DELAY OF GETTING TYPES HERE IS COSTING US MORE MONEY. THAT IS HOW I THINK OF THIS PROJECT. MY CONCERN IS I GET GRANTS I GET THE PROMISES. THERE MAY BE SOMEONE IN TALLAHASSEE WHO THINKS WE ARE GETTING THIS OR THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A BACKUP TO THE BACKUP THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, GOING BACK TO WALL STREET DOES NOT SOUND APPETIZING TO ME. I WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

I TOLD YOU LAST TIME. WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT, I AM SUPPORTIVE. WHAT I CALL SUPPORT HAVING A CONVERSATION OF WHAT I KNOW TO BE THE CONCERS AND CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO RAW MATERIALS AND BUILDING STUFF IN THESE

DAYS. >> I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT AND I AGREE WITH YOU. ANY OFTEN OTHER THAN GRANTS IS THAT THE SERVICE THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID THE GRANT YOUR GRANT TEAM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO BUY THEM LUNCH EVERY DAY TO KEEP THEM AT THEIR DESK WORKING REGISTER, GO CONNECTION.

EVEN IF YOU SECURE 1% THERE IS STILL GET ON HERE.

IT HAS TO BE PAID. WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER.

THAT IS THE CRITICAL COMPONENT HERE SECURING THESE GRANTS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. THAT IS WHY I'M ASKING FOR HIS BODY TO BE KEPT IN THE LOOP. IT'S IMPORTANT WE INCLUDE THIS AND NOTICES THE NUMBER WE NEED TO BE HAD.

SOME IS IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR. YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON IT, YOU HAVE A MONTH TO GET TO THAT POINT.

>> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF VARIABLES.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AND ADDRESSING THOSE VARIABLES FOR LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I WANT TO THINK A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE TEAM FOR WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

THIS IS REALLY A BIG DEAL TO GET $20 MILLION FOR A PROJECT THAT

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I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE TEAM. BOWEN RACHEL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING US TO THIS POINT. ONE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT CAN THE CITY DO. WHEN YOU SEE THEM SAFE THANK YOU FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THAT GOES A LONG WAY.

THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE DOING TOMORROW IS IMPROVING THIS PROJECT, THE FINAL PHASE.

WE ALSO TAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR ELECTRIC RATE.

WE ARE CONTINUING REALLY WORKING TO MAKE THIS VALUABLE JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MAY BE USEFUL FOR THE COMMISSION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE BOARD OF THE MEETING TOMORROW AT 230. THIS CONTRACT AND ALSO TO LOOK AT THE BACK OF, IF ANY COMMISSION OR INTERESTED IN A PERSONAL MEETING, THEY WENT OVER THIS CONTRACT LINE BY LINE AND EXPLAINED WHAT WENT INTO THE DIFFERENT FACTORS AND THERE IS A LOT IN THE AIR OF WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH IN TERMS OF CONTRACTORS. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS. IF YOU SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THIS, IT WILL GIVE YOU A GREAT COMFORT LEVEL OF THE PROCESS AND WHERE THEY ARE GOING. AND IF YOU WATCH THE MEETING TOMORROW YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TO IT.

THE BOARD WILL BE HEARING THIS PRESENTATION AND HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE WHEN THEY GIVE A LOT OF THOUGHT AND THEN I AM JUST OFFERING THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.

AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU ARE WILLING TO DO.

AND YOU WILL HAVE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF COMFORT LEVEL.

THERE IS STILL THE GREAT UNKNOWN OUT THERE AND WE HAVE HEARD THAT ALL MORNING. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE

PRESENTATION. >> IT HAS BEEN A LONG MORNING.

I WANT TO THANK THE DIRECTOR AND HIS TEAM.

OUR MEETINGS, I DON'T KNOW IN EVENT -- IF IT HAS BEEN SAID THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST TIME HEARING THIS INFORMATION I AM A MEETING EVERY MONTH. I KNOW WHAT IS COMING AND THE MEANINGS THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW BUT EVERYONE ELSE, THE MEETINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE IN MY OFFICE, WE LEAVE OUR TITLES ARE IN THE DOOR AND WE DISCUSSED WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TO GET $20 MILLION, IF IT COMES THROUGH IN GRANT MONEY, WHEN I FIRST STARTED MEETING WITH YOU GUYS AND I SAID EVERY TIME WE GET A GRANT BACK AND LET THE CLICK NO, I TOLD YOU GUYS, SHOW ME I DID NOT BELIEVE IT.

SOMETHING THAT HE SAID, EVERY BODY THAT IS LOOKING AT THIS IS WAITING FOR YOU TO COME HERE AND SAY AND NOW WE COME TO YOU TO

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I HAD TO TELL THEM THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

SO MISCOMMUNICATION THAT IS OUT THERE THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TURN AROUND AND THEY FILL UP THEY WILL SEE MAJOR INCREASES BECAUSE OF WASTEWATER PLANT.

I LOOK FOR OVER TWO CONTINUED COMMUNICATIONS.

WE WILL LEAVE ALL TITLE FILE. WITH EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THIS FUNDED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE LIKE YOU ARE DOING.

$20 MILLION WITH ANOTHER 13, THAT IS COMING.

THAT IS 33 MILLION IN ONE YEAR. IF WE ARE LUCKY AND CAN DO THAT FOR A COUPLE BEERS WE ARE GREAT. WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING AND THE LAST THING I TELL YOU. ANYTHING POSITIVE, SPEND THE MONEY TO GET IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

DO NOT WAIT FOR THE MEETINGS. WHEN YOU GOT THAT MONEY THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND EVERYONE IS NOT LISTENING TO THIS. I KEEP SAYING GET IT OUT AND WE WON'T HAVE MISCOMMUNICATION. I THINK WE HAVE WON THIS MONTH SO GOOD JOB AND I KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED.

LIKE I TOLD YOU IN MY MEETINGS, IF I NEED TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND MAKE SOME CALLS YOU KNOW I WILL.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE BANKING ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO US AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE GOOD TO US.

I CONSIDER THIS MY HOMETOWN I LIVE HERE.

I WANT THE BEST FOR FORT PIERCE. I KNOW EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE.

WE NEED TO THINK THEM AND GOOD WORK.

>> WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH THE AGENDA SO THIS MAY BE A GOOD TIME FOR A BREAK UNLESS YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IT IS UP TO YOU.

THIS COULD BE A GOOD TIME. >> WHAT IS THE SMELL OF THE COMMISSION. IS LUNCH OUT THERE AND IS IT

HARD. >> YES, WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION. DO YOU WANT TO STOP AND TICKLE BREAK. WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE WAITING TO

PRESENT TO US. >> I SAY WE KEEP WITH THE NEXT

ITEM BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH AT LEAST ONE MORE ITEM THEN WE CAN TAKE A.

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IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE. >> OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM IS ABOUT

[e. Future Redevelopment of the Island Wastewater Reclamation Facility]

IT INCLUDES CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE NEIGHBOR AND A MEMORANDUM THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO SEE THE ACTIVITIES WHICH INCLUDES THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND CLAUSE REMOVAL.

AT THIS TIME, YOU WISH TO DISCUSS IT THE FLOORS SHORES.

AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC THAT I HAVE HAD BEFORE AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS AS TALK ABOUT UTILITY RATES, WE TALKED ABOUT ACCIDENT WE TALKED ABOUT THE RATE STRUCTURE OF AXING AS A FAXING AGENCY TO THE CITIZENS WHICH WE ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BONUSES OF MOVING THIS PLANT, THE INCREASE IN REVENUES TO THE REVENUE BOND. IT GOES HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE BUDGET. CAP ELECTED FOR CONVERSATION WE SHOULD KEEP UP ON. WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE AGREED AGREED, WE SAID LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE WILL BE A CONVERSATION WHETHER IT IS ALL OF US OR NONE OF US WHERE THE INVESTMENT AND WE ARE DOING TODAY WILL BE A POSITIVE BENEFIT FOR THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF THAT PLANT MOVING MAYBE IT IS THE NEXT GENERATION BUT IT IS IMPORTANT. THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT THERE BUT THE LAST TIME WE HAD A CONVERSATION IS MOVING INTO THE PHASES OF UNCOVERING ALL OF THE HURDLES THAT MAY BE PRESENTED FOR THE PROPERTY IT MIGHT BE EASEMENTS IN MY PRIVACY LINES IT MIGHT BE FUTURE DOT PROJECTS PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE, THAT IS MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE ENGAGE TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE A LITTLE BIT FOR THE SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT,. >> AND THAT IS A GOOD POINT.

WE HAVE STATE WOULD FROM THE ONES THIS IS REMOVED THAT IS THE NEXT BIG THING. WE ALL KNOW THAT AND SO I'M WONDERING IF ANYONE IS IN THE COMMISSION OF HAVING A SHORT PRESENTATION? MR. SMITH YOU WANT TO COME

FORWARD NEXT. >> UNLESS THE PUBLIC HAS READ THE BACKUP THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

>> 62 DEGREES IN HERE. EXPATRIATE NAME FOR THE RECORD ALSO A CITIZEN, BEING IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS RIGHT HERE IN FORT PIERCE, EVERY HURDLE YOU CAN COME UP AGAINST YOU TWO.

AND YOU TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

THESE ARE THE DECISIONS. IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE PLAN IS MOVED, I WON'T BE AROUND TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE REPAIR

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ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS. WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT IS A COMMITMENT DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE WILL TO WITH THE PROPERTY.

THE $50 MILLION. >> MY CAN BUILD ON TO THAT.

CONCEPTUAL PLANNING. THE CITY IS UNDERTAKING MANY ASPECTS OF THE DISCUSSIONS, MANY WOULD HAVE SCENARIOS, I HAVE MET WITH MR. SMITH BECAUSE THEY ARE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

TO START TURNING OVER THOSE STONES I THINK WE HAVE TO BEGIN SOMEWHERE. AND A CONVERSATION WITH STATE PARTNERS LET'S HAVE IT. IF IT'S JOINING ARMS TO INCREASE PUBLIC ACCESS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND TYING IT IN AND I WAS UPSET WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING ELEMENT BY THE SMITHSONIAN WHICH IS OKAY, BUT I'M LIKE DID YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT IS NEXT FOR THE AREA BEFORE YOU GOING THROUGH MY OWN PERSONAL EMOTION THAT IS THE TRUTH. I DON'T KNOW HOW WAS SAY IT THAT IS WHERE I WANT TO START I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

IT IS A GOOD IDEA WON OF THE THINGS I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, STAYING OUT OF THAT ROUND OF LOW FLOW MAP INTO THE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER I THINK IT MIGHT BE ADVISABLE THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE WHAT WILL REMAIN THERE AND WHAT HAS BEEN THERE, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER BECAUSE I DON'T

[03:25:02]

AND THEN DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY AS WELL.

THAT WILL BE YOUR CHOICE. IT HAS BEEN DECIDED AS OF YET.

THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS. AND OTHER'S ABILITY.

>> THE FIRST STEP, BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, THE FIRST STEP IS WE SHOULD GET EVERYONE TO THE TABLE AND ENGAGE WITH THEIR PARTNERS THINK THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORICAL SO COME OUT. AND I THINK THAT WILL START THE PLAY TO VISION WILL COME NEXT. WHEN I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE NEED TO ENGAGE IN AND THE PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON. I'M FINE WITH THAT I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTARY RELATIVE TO THE COMPETENCY OF THE SITUATION.

I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THE ATTACHMENT.

>> I HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON MY HANDS.

I WAS PLEASED THIS IS A PARALLEL TRACK.

>> THERE'S A FIXED PROVISION AND THIS IS NOT USED FOR THE COUNTY.

WE NEED A CLEAR PATH TO DETERMINE MICHAEL PERSONALLY THIS NEEDS TO COME TO THE CITY. THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

NOT TO THE SEDER THE CITY PUT THE COUNTY HOW DO WE DO THIS BUSINESS OF ALL INTERRELATED. MY CONCERN IS FOR ME TOO CLEAR THE PATH AND NICK IS GOING TO SAY NO PROBLEM.

WHATEVER QUITCLAIM DEED. I AGREE WE NEED TO START HAVING THE VISION AND GETTING AND FROM THE COMMUNITY.

>> I WANT TO THROW THIS OUT THERE.

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>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE DONE OFFERED TO DILIGENCE.

>> OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS NEED TO DETERMINE THE VISION THEN RETAKE THE VISION TO THE STATE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH IT WILL

COST TO GET OUT OF BOTH CLAUSES. >> WROTE TO PAY MONEY.

I GAVE YOU THE FORMULA. THE STATE WANTS TO SEE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND THEN THEY WILL DO AN APPRAISAL AND THEN THEY WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT WILL COST.

>> WILL HAVE TO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE HONESTLY, I THINK OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THEY ARE ALL HAVE OPINIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND AUDIENCES OUT THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT IS TO EARLY TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS.

>> FROM WHAT I OBSERVED THE STATE IS OUR PARTNER.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THE STATE IS OUR PARTNER.

THEY ARE UNDERLYING LANDOWNERS. WHILE EVERYONE SAY THERE IS A FORMULA FOR THE STATE TO BE PAID, THEY ARE A LANDOWNER PARTNER, CURRENTLY. THEY OWN THE DIRT.

THEY SAID HERE CITY, YOU CAN HAVE THE DIRT, BUT DO NOT FORGET WE ARE YOUR PARTNER. IF YOU WANT TO BUY OUT OUR SHARE THIS WILL BE THE RATE AND THERE'S A FORMULA.

I HAD TO SHARE THAT NOT LONG AGO, THEY OWN THE THIRD, THEY DIDN'T JUST GIVE ITS WAS, THEY SAID BY THE WANT TO BUY OUT OF PERCENTAGE THIS WILL BE THE STATE.

THIS IS WONDERFUL BECAUSE THERE WAS A MOVEMENT SAYING THE CITY IS PAYING THE STATE PRACTICE DATE ALREADY OWNS THE.

>> THAT IF THE KEY. THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE

CITY CONTROLS US, WE DON'T. >> HOWEVER READ THE DOCUMENT ANY ADAPTATION OF THE PROPERTY REQUIRE PAYMENT AND REMOVAL OF A VARIETY OF COMPLEX A LOT OF COMPETING INTERESTS.

MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT ALL OF THE PARTIES THAT HAVE A SAY WILL NOT SAY WERE GIVING YOU WATERFRONT PROPERTY BECAUSE WE ARE MAGNANIMOUS. THIS WILL MATURE AND WE WILL HAVE COMPETING INTERESTS THAT WON'T COOPERATE I WANT THE CITY TO BE OUT IN FROM OF THIS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

THERE IS A STARTING.A CATALYST FOR CONVERSATION WE CAN USE IT TO OUR ADVANTAGE AND WE USE THIS AS THE CITY AND WE SHOULD USE THEM AND IN ADDITION THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETING INTERESTS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY EVERY SINGLE PARTY THAT IS ASSOCIATED

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MAKING THIS HAPPEN. >> WITH BETH WE ARE DONE WITH THIS ITEM. WOULD YOU FOLKS LIKE TO EAT I GUESS LET'S PICK A BREAK. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS AND WE WILL COME BACK AT 1:00 P.M., THAT IS 25 MINUTES THAT HIS TIME

[f. Pilot Program for paid parking on the beach parking lots - update and review of RFP - Peggy Arraiz, Community Response Director]

>> WE WILL GO BACK INTO SESSION. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PILOT PROGRAM FOR PAID PARKING ON THE BEACH PARKING LOTS.

>> WE DO HAVE THE DIRECTOR PEGGY ARRIAZ WHO WILL WALK US THROUGH THE PARLOR PROGRAM. AS YOU KNOW THE REASON ACTIVITIES AND INCREASED NUMBER OF VISITORS TO OUR AREA IS PUSHING THIS ISSUE AND I BELIEVE NOW THAT WE HAVE A SCHEDULED IMPLEMENTATION THAT PEGGY WILL SHARE WITH YOU.

>> >> WE'RE GOING TO PRESENTED TODAY AND I REALIZED YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE NAME BECAUSE THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL FOCUS ON THREE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS. THAT IS THE ONLY AREAS WE ARE LOOKING TO FOCUS ON. WERE LOOKING AT A PILOT PROGRAM TERM OF THREE YEARS AND THE SCOPE OF THE RFP IS FOR THE HARDWARE, SOFTWARE AS WELL AS THE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.

THIS WOULD NOT BE HANDLED BY CLAUDE STAPP THIS WOULD BE A FULL PACKAGE PROVIDED FROM THE HARDWARE, SOFTWARE AND THE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL. I DID PRESENT THIS TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE. I DID NOTICE I FORGOT TO ATTACH THE RFP BUT IT IS ATTACHED NOW. SO THE ACTUAL RFP IS NOW ATTACHED AND IT IS UP NOW. I DID PRESENT THE RFP TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE AND THEY HAD THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF PUTTING IT OUT AND SEEING WHAT INFORMATION WE RECEIVE.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A SPLIT AND IN GENERAL THEY SAID LET'S FIND OUT WHAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE.

THEY ARE CURIOUS TO THE START UP COST AND THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. THEY ALSO RECOMMEND INCOME BE DIVIDED INTO TWO PARTS. 50% GOING TO THE PROGRAM AND THINGS LIKE RESTROOM MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE OTHER 50%, PUTTING INTO A RESTRICTED FUND.

EVERYONE SAYS WE NEED MORE PARKING.

I KNOW THE CITY COMMISSION AS VOICED THIS OPINION AND ALL

[03:40:05]

OF COURSE THERE COULD BE MORE RULES ATTACHED, AND IF YOU HAVE MORE YOU HAVE TO PAY BUT ULTIMATELY ALL RESIDENTS WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PREPAID PARKING PERMITS.

THIS WAS AN OLD SLIDE THAT I WAS BRINGING IN.

I DON'T KNOW IF I BROUGHT IT IN FROM POWERPOINT.

>> I APOLOGIZE I THINK I HAVE THE WRONG POWERPOINT ON HERE.

I DO. THAT I CAN GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE. I THOUGHT I REPLACED IT.

I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GO TO LUNCH. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE.

SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE PROGRAM WE MAY WANT TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE SO MAKE% SURE WHATEVER WE HAVE IT CAN BE EXPANDABLE THE OPERATOR WILL PROVE BY THE CUSTOMER SERVICE.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE AN AND IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP I SPOKE WITH THE PURCHASING MANAGER.

WE CAN MAKE OUR FIRST ADVERTISEMENT NOTICE IN AUGUST.

HOPEFULLY THEY WILL OPEN THE BIDS IN SEPTEMBER JUST AFTER LABOR DAY. THE BIG THING IS THEY PROVIDE THE SOFTWARE AND IT IS EXPANDABLE.

>> WITH THE PARKING DISCUSSION THAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS IS ONE OF THE TIMES THE RESTAURANT SHOW THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PAID PARKING. OR IN AVENUES WE COULD FOLLOW OR

DECIDE ON. >> IF WE DO FOLLOW THROUGH WE

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CAN GET MORE IN THE WEEDS. >> RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST A SIDE VIEW. AND IF THERE'S AN OPERATION OUT THERE THAT FITS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

PAGE ANYONE ELSE, ANY QUESTIONS? TANGENTS SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE THREE LOCATIONS ARE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE ESPECIALLY WITH THE CAUSEWAY PARK AND THE EGRESS AND INGRESS, I DON'T THINK IT IS A CHALLENGE YOU WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY BRING FORWARD BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.

I THINK. >> I FEEL LIKE EACH ONE OF THESE LIVE WITH OWN THERE LIVE WITHIN THEIR OWN TIMING.

>> YOU ARE A FISHERMAN BUT YOU LIVE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY WOULD

PAY FOR IT? >> CORRECT.

IF YOU DO PARKING 24 HOURS PER DAY THE ENFORCEMENT IS 24 HOURS PER DAY. THEY DO GO HAND-IN-HAND.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 50% GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE OTHER TWO FUTURE PARKING. THERE IS A BELIEF THERE WILL BE MONEY MADE. NOT JUST PARKING ENFORCEMENT

THAT IT TAKES TO ENFORCE IT. >> THAT IS THE ANTICIPATION.

>> LET ME SAY, THIS CAME ABOUT TRYING TO RESOLVE AND ISSUE AS WELL AS PEOPLE TAKING SPOTS ALL DAY LONG AND CREATING SOME TYPE OF WIN-WIN SITUATION SO PEOPLE COULD ENJOY THESE AREAS BUT ALSO WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND PARTAKE.

I GET THAT PART. I GUESS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT THE TRIGGE IN MY MIND HAVING LIVED IN CITIES LIKE THIS, WHAT CONCERNS ME, THE ANALYSIS OF WHO COMES FROM OUT OF TOWN OR WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN OUR CITY OF COUNTY THAT WOULD ABUSE IT QUITE FRANKLY TEACH LIKE I'M GOING TO GO AND PARK AND WHAT DO WE REALLY GAIN. I GET THAT PART AND THAT IS WHERE MY MIND WENT. THIS IS AN EXERCISE THAT WILL LET US KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE. I'M OKAY WITH THAT, JUST GETTING

[03:50:05]

PROCESS. >> I HAVE A COMMENT AND THEN I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. THE COMMENT IS PEGGY HERSELF IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON A DRAFT TO A REVISION THAT ADDRESSES THE UTILIZATION OF CITY PARKS. WE HAVE SEVERAL PARKS WITH DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS. SOME ARE 24 HOURS, SOME ARE OPEN JUST DAYLIGHT HOURS MARINA SQUARE IS A PARK OR A 24 HOUR FACILITY. AN TIMED ENFORCEMENT.

A COUPLE OF POINTS. ONE IS THAT THE PARKING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WERE QUITE CONCERNED AS THE CITY'S SPENDING RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN THE PARK SYSTEM.

WE ARE ALLOWING THE PARKS TO BE USED BY EVERYONE FOR FREE.

WE ARE GENERATING NO REVENUE THERE I WAS IN SAINT AUGUSTINE FOR THE COMMISSION THEY HAVE 24/SEVEN PARKING.

THE COST TO LOAD THINGS UP AND APART FOR FREE, ENJOYED THE VISTA AND RELOAD THE CAR AND GO HOME AND NOT SPEND ANY MONEY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS TO SAY WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST. SECONDLY, THE THREE HOUR TIMELINE ON THE PILOT PROGRAM LESS SO WE WE CAN HAVE BENDERS THAT WERE INTERESTED. WE FELT IF WE LESSENED THE TIMELINE, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. AND THEY LIKE THE LIMITED SCOPE OF THE PILOT PROGRAM THEY WANT TO KNOW WITH THIS OFFSET COSTS AND ADDITIONALLY TURNOVER. THIS BECAME A CONCERN I DON'T EVEN TRY BUT UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES I WOULD RIDE MY BIKE. THE COMMITTEE DEBATED, THE SHARING PROGRAM OF THIS, AND THIS OFFSET THE COSTS, AND THIS

[03:55:07]

IS NOT DEDICATED TO THE BEACH, WHERE WE NEED PARKING, WE WOULD HAVE A CACHET TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE.

>> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME EMPTY FIND FOR THIS TO MAKE MONEY, YOU WOULD THINK, THE PROX PROCESS WAS AT THE PILOT PROGRAM PROVES TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IT'S NOT THE REVENUE GENERATOR, IT IS EXPANDING THE PROGRAM FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT.

I ALWAYS SAY WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY ON THE -- WE WANT TO HAVE TURNOVER, THE THREE PARKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ALL THREE HAVE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER THEY HAVE SUCH -- IS THAT FUNNY AND THEN YOU HAVE STUFF GOING ON THERE ALL OF THE TIME I CAN TELL YOU WHAT GOES ON IN THE MORNING, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE NEVER WENT HOME. THAT IS JUST STUFF GOING ON ALL OF THE TIME AND JC PARK STUFF GOING ON ALL OF THE TIME BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY IT IS USUALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTNERING WHO NEVER WENT HOME.

ALL THREE OF THOSE PARKS HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.

>> I AM IN THE PROCESS OF ADDRESSING THE PARKS IN TOTAL.

IT IS REWRITTEN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

I HAVE SENT IT TO THE PARKS COMMITTEE WHICH I WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH THEM SHORTLY. THEY HAVE A LOT OF AND PUT TO WHAT IS REASONABLE WE HAVE TAKEN THAT AND WE HAVE PUT IT INTO RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COMMITTEE WHICH I WILL BRING TO YOU.

IT DOES HAVE SOME PARKING STUFF WITH IT ALSO.

>> WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT BUT THERE IS SOME PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECTS WILL ALL THREE THEY ARE PRONE TO PEOPLE LATE AT NIGHT DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T DO. PARTICULARLY JENNY PARK.

AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND THE POWERPOINT I'VE BROUGHT UP.

I ACTUALLY HAVE THE DATA FROM WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE AS FAR HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OUT OF STATE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES THIS LEGALLY BUT I PULLED THAT DANA AND CAN PULL THAT UP AGAIN, AND ISSUING THE VIOLATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE OUT OF ST. LUCIA COUNTY. I WAS SURPRISED AS I PULLED THE

NUMBERS. >> AND YOU SAY MANY PEOPLE ABUSE THE PARKS ARE FROM ST. LUCIA COUNTY.

>> ON THE FACT THAT WE ARE FREE BOAT RAMPS, EVERYONE KNOWS IT AND THEY WILL TRAVEL TO COME HERE BECAUSE WE ARE FREE.

AND THEY USE THE BATHROOMS AND THEY FEEL THE TRASH CANS UP, AND THEY DO ALL OF THE THINGS THE TEAM HAS TO DEAL WITH AND THEY DO IT FOR FREE. THEY'RE NOT EVEN PAYING THE

[04:00:03]

TAXES LIKE LOCAL RESIDENTS ARE. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOTIVATING FACTORS. I KNOW I KEEP COMING BACK AND I KNOW THIS IS GOVERNMENT AND NEED TO KEEP SAYING THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT HERE. I'M CONCERNED THAT, WE ARE

INVESTING RESOURCES. >> WE WILL SEE WHO RESPONDS AND

[g. An update of the operations at the Fort Pierce Animal Adoption Center (FPAAC) - Peggy Arraiz, Community Response Director General operations ARP funds Multi-jurisdiction cooperative efforts]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON THE OPERATIONS OF THE FORT

PIERCE ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER. >> I WILL NOT BE DOING THIS ONE ALONE. I HAVE COMPANY TO JOIN US.

>> INTRODUCING THE OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR THE ADOPTION CENTER, WELCOME. SHE'S GOING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WILL BE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THE FIRST THING A MAPPING TO LET KNOW, YOU KNOW. WE HAVE OUR LOGO AND WE WILL BE ROLLING THAT OUT IN THE UPCOMING FUTURE.

WE ARE WORKING ON BRINGING, IN OCTOBER WHEN WE TOOK OVER THE FACILITY EVERYONE WAS TEMPORARY AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND THREE WE HAVE THREE ANIMAL POSITION STILL VACANT AND THE BUDGET SECTION. WE ARE TAKING THIS OFF OF THE BUDGET AND IT IS A HARD POSITION TO MAINTAIN, IT IS TYPICALLY SOMEONE ON THEIR WAY TO COLLEGE OR HOME FOR SUMMER BREAK AND THEY GO THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS WHICH IS CHALLENGING, SO WE WILL KEEP IT PART-TIME AND AS TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES.

VETERINARY CARE. THIS IS VERY EXCITING FOR ME TOO PRESENT TO YOU. WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE BUT WE HAVE AGREED TO BE PARTNERED WITH THEM.

[04:05:18]

THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE AND. >> WE WILL BE TRANS BOARDING STERILIZATIONS IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS?

>> THIS GOES STRAIGHT TO THEM AND THEY OFFER THEM TWO WEEKS OF ANY MEDICAL CARE THEY NEED FOR TWO WEEKS.

IT'S ACTUALLY GOING FROM A STRAIGHT TO THEM.

WE TRANSPORT OUR ANIMALS YES. >> PRIOR TO ADOPTIONS AND STERILIZATIONS YOU WILL TAKE THEM OVER?

>> YES. >> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS, THE FIRST CONTRACT WE WERE ABLE TO POOP CONTRACT.

,. >> WE OBTAINED A CONTRACT NUMBER ONE THEY HAVE A HIGHLY REDUCED RATE AND WHAT IS BEING OFFSET.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, WHEN THE ANIMALS WERE EATING THE SAME FOOD THE COSTCO SAMPLER WHEN YOU FEED A DOG DIFFERENT FOOD THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE SOLIDIFIED ANY PERSON OF BIG

STEP. >> THEY WILL ALSO GIVE TOYS AND

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> SINCE I MADE THIS LAST WEEK.

WE HAVE HAD THREE UPDATES THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE POWERPOINT BECAUSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING CONSTANTLY.

>> EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THIS TOY IS?

>> I DON'T IT IS AN INDESTRUCTIBLE TOY, IT KEEPS ANIMAL -- IT KEEPS ANIMALS ENTERTAIN.

AND ALSO VERY EXCITING, OUR FIRST VOLUNTEER HAS BEEN ON BOARDED. AND WE HAVE OUR FIRST OFFICIAL WHO WAS ON BOARDED THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

SHE WILL HELP US WITH MARKETING WITHOUT FRAM.

SHE CAN HELP TRAIN THE CURRENT STAFF TO DO WHAT SHE USED TO DO.

>> 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE ENTERTAIN SHE HAS COME ON AS A VOLUNTEER SO WE ARE WORKING ON POSSIBLY A SECOND ONE.

>> YOU SAID THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CITY RULES CLINICS.

>> YES, PART OF THE MARKETING REQUIRES AN E-MAIL ADDRESS AND IN ORDER TO GIVE ONE, WHEN THEY ARE DOING OUR MARKETING AND GRANT WRITING AND ALL OF THAT THEY HAVE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS TO GO THROUGH THE. SOME PARTNERSHIPS HERE I WAS SO

[04:10:02]

THAT IS ONE OF OUR DOGS. WE REPORT WITH RESCUES AND DIFFERENT SHELTERS TO MOVE AS MANY AS WE CAN TO KEEP THE BALL

ROLLING. >> ACTUALLY WE HAVE MOVED OVER 300 ANIMALS SINCE THE START OF THIS TO RESCUES.

USUALLY THERE'S A MEDICAL ISSUE NOT ONLY ARE WE WORKING WITH THESE GUYS BUT WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE ANIMAL ISSUE WE ARE HAVING. THAT MEANS AT OUR SHELTER WE ARE SEEING DOUBLE INTAKES. AND US WORKING TOGETHER MAKING IT WORTH THE WE PARTNER WITH EVERY SHELTER SURROUNDING THIS, ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND WE JUST HAD THIS MASS EVENT WHERE WE GOT

TOGETHER. >> SO IN ADDITION TO, AS I EXPLAINED, I KNOW SHE WAS DOING OVERBUDGET AND WE HAVE FOCUSED ON STABILIZING OUR EXPENSES, GETTING OUR VETERINARY CARE AND MOVING ON TO PHASE TWO WHICH IS ADDRESSING THE INCOME AND THE FUNDRAISING. ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, IS THE COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY AND OUR FACILITY AND SOME RESCUES. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS. WE SIGNED UP FOR JANUARY AWFUL ALSO. AND WE SIGNED UP FOR COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR. BE DOING WEEKLY WALKAROUND, WE ARE REALLY STARTING PHASE TWO. IT IS ON A ROLL.

WE ARE STARTING TO INCREASE OUR MARKETING AND OUTREACH AND FUNDRAISING EFFORTS. THEN THE AR KEEP FUNDING, THEY STILL HAVE 55 REMAINING. AND EVERYTHING FROM THE FANS TO KEEP THE AIR COOL TO THE FURNITURE.

WE LITERALLY HAD TO RE- BUILD THE FACILITY.

WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS TO UPGRADE LAUNDRY AND THE FIRST CARD. THE $200,000 IS STILL A RESTRICTED FUND. BUT WE ARE GOING WITH THE THINGS WE NEED RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO AND WE ARE TAKING IT ONE STEP AT A TIME.

>> THE COOPERATIVE EFFORTS, AND THAT IS WHAT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT. WE ESTABLISHED A WORKING GROUP, FORT PIERCE ANIMAL ADOPTION, THE ANIMAL CONTROL AND PORT SAINT LUCCI ANIMAL CONTROL AND THE ANIMAL SAFETY SERVICES AND PROTECTION WHICH DOES EVERYTHING ON THEIR SIDE.

[04:15:02]

IT HAS REALLY PREPARED SOME OF THE BRIDGES.

A LOT OF STEPS IN A LOT OF PLACES.

WE HAVE THAT OPEN COMMUNICATION AND WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES ARRIVE SUCH AS THE ADOPTION EVENT.

WE HAD 28 ADOPTIONS IN THOSE THREE DAYS.

THAT IS A HUGE PLUS FOR US. WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER. WE ARE WORKING TO DO A JOINT FOOD BANK THAT ANYONE CAN DO. MAYBE SOME RABIES CLINICS AND ADDITIONAL ADOPTION THE HUMANE SOCIETY DID THE MARKETING THEY DRAFTED THE FLESH RELEASES. OUR ORGANIZATION PAID FOR THE SIGN PERMIT. EVERYONE CHIPPED IN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES ARISE.

I WANT TO THANK MIKE STEEN FOR BUILDING OUR PHOTOSPHERE THEY THINK EVERYONE IS 6 FEET TALL. SUMMER COULD NOT MAKE IT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. VERY POPULAR.

THEY LOVED IT. >> THIS IS NEW, I DID NOT HAVE

THIS AND I ADOPTED. >> THEY BUILT THAT FOR US.

THAT PHOTO IS THE MAKEUP ADOPTION EVENT.

>> I WENT TO THAT WHEN IT WAS STARTING.

>> WAS IT IN OUR ROOM? >> ME.

WAS NOT THERE YET. NOTHING WAS STILL.

>> I AM ASSUMING ALL PRE- ORGANIZATIONS HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT WE DID, THEY HAD SOME EMPTY NUMBERS FOR ADOPTION.

>> IS SUCCESSFUL ACROSS THE PORT WE DID HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER FOUR ADOPTIONS AND EVERYONE WAS COOL.

THEY HAD HIGH NUMBERS. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD EVENT WHILE I WAS THERE. YOU DATED OVER THREE DAYS.

>> I THINK OF THE PICTURE IS ON SATURDAY.

THEY HAD A WRESTLING EVENT. >> THEY SPENT THE WHOLE DAY.

>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD CORPORATION. I WAS HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT WORKED OUT. WE DO HAVE A HISTORY IT WORKED OUT. GIVEN TO THE POINT WHERE THE TRUCKS BACKING IN. SO YES, EVERYONE HAD GOOD

ADOPTIONS. >> I HOPE YOU DO IT AGAIN.

I HAD PEOPLE SAY AND PEOPLE SAY I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ONE SCHEDULED PRICE PER YEAR. HOW HARD IS THAT TO DO A GET

TOGETHER FOR STAFF. >> JUST HAVING THE DOG CRATES, WE DID NOT HAVE THEM. AMAZON, I HAD THEM DELIVERED THE DAY BEFORE. THERE WAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT 5K AGAIN? THEY ARE GETTING DONATIONS AS WELL WE ARE STILL WAITING ON MORE DETAILS.

[04:20:04]

>> HUMOR LOOKING FOR A RESPONSE OF THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD ONE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS?

ANYONE ELSE? >> I HAVE TO SUGGESTS THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM, AND I WASN'T ON THE COMMISSION THEN SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR TAKING ON THAT MISSION BUT JUST FROM WHAT I READ IN THE UPPER AND TO SEE WHERE IT IS NOW, TO SEE THE EXECUTION OF THE TEAM IT IS IMPRESSIVE.

>> YES, I AM VERY HAPPY. >> I WOULD SAY THAT TOO.

I COME DOWN AND I WALK AND I UNDERSTAND.

IT IS A GREAT JOB THAT YOU ARE DOING.

THERE IS MUCH MORE WORK TO BE DONE.

MY CONCERNS HEIGHTENED TO WHAT I SEE ON THE TYPE OF ANIMALS.

GETTING. GUESSING YOU HAVE THE CUTE AND BUBBLY ONCE ALSO HAVE SOME AREAS OF GROWING CONCERN, LIKE THE POOLS AND AND THAT IS A CONCERN. PEOPLE ARE NOT ADOPTING THE PIT BULLS. AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS AN UNDERSTANDABLE GROWING CITY, I THINK THAT FOCUS, WE NEED TO BE AWARE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP US ABREAST AND A PLAN TO DEAL WITH IT.

THOSE ARE THE ONES NOT GETTING ADOPTED BUT THEY ARE MULTIPLYING ACROSS THE CITY AND THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[h. Impact Fee Study Update - Kev Freeman, Planning Director]

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE IMPACT FEES STUDY UPDATE.

>> WE DO HAVE OUR PLANNED DIRECTOR KEV FREEMAN WHO WILL GIVE US AN UPDATE OF THE FEES AS WELL AS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NEW IMPACT THE WE ARE HOPING TO IMPACT VERY SOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION. I THINK I WILL USE THIS MICROPHONE. THIS IS A BRIEF PRESENTATION I HOPE, REGARDING WHAT WE ARE DOING BEHIND THE SCENES REGARDING THE IMPACT FEES IN THE CITY.

THE CITY IS GROWING AND WE HAVE MENTIONED THE BOOM OUT WEST IS AFFECTING THE CD AND WE ARE GROWING.

WE SEE FROM THE BUDGET, THAT THE COST OF THAT GROWTH DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR SERVICE PROVISION. THE CURRENT SCHEDULE WAS UPDATED A LONG TIME AGO IN 2008 AND SINCE THEN IT HAS REMAINED STATIC. IT DEFINES THE FOLLOWING SERVICE AREAS AND YOU MAY SEE A LARGE OMISSION FROM THIS.

PARKS AND RECREATION, STORMWATER AND TRANSPORTATION, THE BIGGEST IMPACT FEE SERVICE AREA THAT THE MEETING DOESN'T COLLECT FOR THE MOMENT IS ( INDISCERNIBLE ) ENFORCED AREA.

WHEN WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT AND TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF WE IMPLEMENTED INTO THE SERVICE AREA.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH.

AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING AND THE PROPERTY TAX THAT THE CITY IS STARTING TO SEE.

THIS IS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE NUMBER OF SPACE THAT WE SEE NOT ONLY MEAN APPROVE AND DEVELOP YOUR NETWORK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH NUMBERS AND YOU SEE THE ESCALATION OF BUILDING UNITS COMING INTO THE CITY.

THESE ARE NOT THINGS MEAN APPROVED WE WILL ALSO SEE THE

[04:25:08]

I WANT TO SAY ALSO, THE IMPACT THESE, ARE ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE CITY'S LEVEL OF SERVICES.

CUSTOMERS ARE USING THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND SERVICES AND THE TRASH AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE NEW BUSINESSES. THIS IS A TREND WE ARE SEEING.

A PERMANENT BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS EACH ONE THAT COMES IN, ASSESSES HOW MUCH IT WILL COST AND IT IS BASED ON THAT EVALUATION. WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU WILL LIKELY SEE IN THE FUTURE, AND THIS WILL IN FACT THE PROPERTY AS IT COMES INTO THE TAX ROLLS. IT IS NOT LINEAR AND I CAN'T GIVE YOU A FORM OF WHAT THAT MEANS.

IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT, NEW COMMERCIAL SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS IS QUITE REMARKABLE, AND WE ARE SEEING THIS AT THIS TIME. AGAIN, IN TERMS OF BEING AROUND AND WE ARE SEEING THAT TREND CONTINUE.

THE IMPACT FEE STUDY WILL PROPOSE REINFORCEMENT AND RECOMMEND A FEE STRUCTURE FOR THAT.

AND I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THIS IMPACT FEE AS I SAID EARLIER IS A ONE-TIME FEE. IT IS PAID ONCE AS DEVELOPMENT COME IN. IT CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON CAPITAL AND FIXED COST. VEHICLES, BUILDINGS AND ROADWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ESSENTIALLY AN ANY OPERATIONAL COSTS. THEN, YOU TAKING THIS INTO ACCOUNT, YES YOU CAN PUT THESE FEES ON AND BUY MORE EQUIPMENT, AND HOPEFULLY THE SERVICE AREA WILL REDUCE THE COST IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND ON PROVIDING VEHICLE AND SERVICE AND OPERATIONAL EQUIPMENT, THEY SAID THEY HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE TASK

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AND NOW WE ARE GATHERING INFORMATION INFORMATION AND WE JUST HAD A ROUND OF INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE PRECISE INFORMATION THEY NEED, AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT WE WILL BE GETTING A REPORT BACK ABOUT THEIR PROPOSED SERVICE AREA AND WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL AND I THINK BY DEFAULT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE LEVELS OF THE IMPACT FEES OF THAT

SERVICE AREA. >> CONNECTED TO THIS WE ARE ABLE TO PICK UP SINCE THAT TIME, THE STATE HAS IMPLEMENTED THROUGH HOUSE BILL 337, SOME DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THE CITY CAN APPLY AND CALCULATE AND INCREASE IMPACT FEES.

AND I JUST FOUND THESE ON THE INTERNET, FROM THE TREASURY AND HOW TO INCREASE IMPACT FEES. AND THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

BUT YOU CAN ONLY DO IT FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE YEARS.

THAT MAY BE IN CONFLICT AND I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY OFFICE WHICH SAYS YOU CAN ONLY INCREASE IMPACT FEES EVERY FOUR YEARS. AND IF YOU DO INCREASE THEM ABOVE 12% THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE FAITH GRADUATED INCREASE.

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR WHETHER THE COMMISSION WOULD BE INTERESTED INTO LOOKING AT THE ADJUSTMENT, THAT COULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE IMPACT FEES 30 , BUT IT MAY BE RELATED IF THEY PROPOSE INCREASES I NEED TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT.

IF THE ADJUSTMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE RESTRICTION.

I WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE CONSULTANT ENHANCER GO THROUGH WHAT THEIR FINDINGS ARE.

>> >> IN THE PART WE HAVE DIFFERENT SERVICES RECREATION POLICE IN EACH OF THOSE HAD A DIFFERENT

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>> DO OTHER CITIES HAVE SUCH A THING AS THIS?

>> WHEN I DID RESEARCH, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

A DEPARTMENTAL SERVICE AREA. MAYBE THEY ARE OVERSEEN BY THE COUNTY, THERE ARE CITIES THAT DO.

IS THAT MORE COMMON THAN NOT? I THINK IT IS 40%.

MY ROULETTE TABLE OF MARBLES IS FINAL-ROUND AT THE MOMENT.

>> THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR DISCUSSION ON TWO COMMITTEES I SENT ON. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE ARE WE LOOKING AT ANY TYPES OF WAYS TO WHERE WE COULD USE OUR IMPACT THESE TWO HELP DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO COME BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M GIVING YOU A PREVIEW OF A REPORT THAT IS COMING TO THE BOARD THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. AND I COMMEND WITH THIS BUT WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS STUDY THE POSSIBILITY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE NEED IN THIS AREA, WHERE WE JUMPED FROM 900 OR WHATEVER THE COMMERCIAL PART ALL RIGHT HERE, 75,002906000.

THIS IS COMMERCIAL SQUARE FEET. THAT MEANS SOMEONE HAS TO COME WORK AND IS NOT HOUSING. I KNOW ON THAT COMMITTEE IS COMING UP SO I'M GIVING YOU A HEADS UP LET'S SEE IF WE CAN READ -- USE THESE IMPACT FEES TO HELP DEVELOPERS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO COME TO OUR CITY TO HELP US WITH THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO MADAME MAYOR, BUT I KNOW ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP GET DEVELOPERS TO COME IN TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT IS GREAT BECAUSE AS THE COMMISSIONER ALWAYS SAYS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, EVERY TIME WE APPROVE A NEW COMMERCIAL WHERE WE GONNA PUT THESE PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO SAY I KNOW THE REPORT IS COMING FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT FEES I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IS WHERE IT IS

COMING FROM. >> THANK YOU, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT REPORT. MY FIRST COMMENT IS THE NEW POPULATION GROWTH. NONE OF THAT IS BASED ON

ANNEXATION. >>

>> THIS IS ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION. LET'S SAY WE ANNEX AND, LET'S SEE, THEY HAVE WE ARE GOING FURTHER.

MY POINT IS THAT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FLOWS INTO THIS GROWTH PATTERN TAKING PLACE. IS THIS SPACE SITTING AND

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>> IT MAKES SENSE FOR OTHER REASONS.

>> THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS MINOR.

BUT COMMISSIONER GAINES MAKES AN EXCELLENT POINT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A THRESHOLD FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU CAN PUT IT INTO ANY CATEGORY PROBABLY NEED THAT SUPPLY. I WOULD THINK THERE COULD BE A POINT TO SUGGEST THAT AT SUCH A PRICE.YOU GET NOWHERE IMPACT FEES. I'M GOING TO LISTEN INTENTLY WHEN THAT DISCUSSION COMES UP. WE WILL TERMINATE THE ABILITY TO CREATE MORE INDUSTRIAL SPACE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE TO SUPPORT IT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT MOVING FORWARD. MY SECOND QUESTION, I KNOW SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE ELIMINATED IMPACT FEES.

>> I THINK WE HAVE THE REMNANTS I THINK WE HAVE MOVED PAST THAT WERE THE IMPACT FEES, I DON'T WANT THAT TO GET LOST IN THE TRANSLATION IF WE ARE ROLLING OUT OF THAT WE HAVE TO REVISIT

IT. >>

>> I DO THINK THAT IS A GOOD PLACE TO START AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THAT GLOBAL CONTEXT.

I'M THRILLED TO REPORT AND I'M THRILLED WHERE THIS IS GOING.

I KNOW THIS IS NOT PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION BUT I KNOW YOU ARE

REVISITING THE STRUCTURES. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.

WE ARE HITTING ON THE REAL IMPORTANT ISSUE THE LACK OF EMPLOYEE THAT IS MY -- I AM DRIVEN BY ECONOMICS AND HOW I THINK, AND WE ARE ALL HITTING ON THE SAME POINT.

EVERYTHING WE DO AND PLANNING RELATES TO HOW WE MAKE THIS CITY ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND THAT IS NOT ONLY PROVIDING JOBS FOR PEOPLE BUT HOUSING. IT IS ALSO ENSURING THE CITY FUNDS THE CAPITAL AND THE GENERAL FUND TO ENABLE THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO BE MAINTAINED.

AND YOU CAN SEE FROM CITY STAFF THAT IS HAPPENING ALREADY.

AND THEY WILL HAVE DEBT SERVICE AND OTHER THINGS ON THE CITY.

IT IS A REALLY GOOD MECHANISM. >> THERE IS A TAX IN SOME CAPACITY. BUT I WILL REPEAT THAT, WITHOUT

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>> I HAVE A DIFFERENT DATE. AND I WAS HOPING WE WOULD HAVE AN AMPLE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE WE SHOULD ADJUST.

SOME I AGREE SHOULD BE INCREASED.

SOME I BELIEVE WE DON'T USE AND SHOULD BE DECREASED.

I HAVE THE CHALLENGE WITH IMPACT FEES OVERALL.

IT GOES BACK TO ECONOMICS. IT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND, ZONING REGULATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY. WE HAVE ALL OF THIS COMMERCIAL BUT IT WON'T BUILD HOUSING, BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSUADED FROM COMING TO THE CITY BECAUSE OF IMPACT FEES, WE HAVE HEARD OURSELVES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT DELICATE BALANCE. IT IS PART OF THE ECONOMIC SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT I LEARNED. I WAS LIKE, WHERE DO WE NEED TO BE. IS NOT JUST THE IDEA OF COLLECTING IT, IT IS ALSO PUTTING INTO USE SPIRIT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATOR JUST SAID YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR THIS END.

SURE TIMEFRAME. AND WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ON HOW WE ARE GROWING AS A CITY. ARE WE TAKING MONEY THAT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR GROWTH AND NEW IMPACT TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW GROWTH WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. IT MAY BE PAVING THE ROAD FOR AN EXAMPLE OR MAKING A NEW ROAD OR EXPANDING THE EXISTING ROAD TO KURE EIGHT AND ACCOMMODATE -- CURATE AND ACCOMMODATE THE NEW GROWTH. I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL BUT FEELS THE SAME THANKS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION WHEN WE DOING WITH THE IMPACT FEES AND WHEN WILL WE SPEND THAT MONEY. AND HOW WILL WE SPEND IT AND HOW WILL WE PUT IT TO USE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WE

JUST SMILE AT EACH OTHER. >> LET'S NOT BRING THAT UP

TODAY. >> THOSE ARE REAL CONVERSATIONS FOR ME AND BEING IN THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE REACH OUT TO THE BUILDERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT SEE THIS ON THE FRONT LINES.

YOUR CAUSE AND EFFECT MAY BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.

I VALUE THEIR INPUT AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY ALSO. CAN I INTERJECT?

>> IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY I HAVE HEARD THE PROBLEM IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE IMPACT FEES ARE PAID IN THE CITY IN THE COUNTY AND THEIRS ARE MUCH HIGHER. THAT IS WHERE EVERYONE OBJECT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS SO MUCH MORE HEFTIER.

>> WE ARE PART OF THE LAYER, AND DIDN'T PORT ST. LUCIE JUST CHANGE THEIR IMPACT FEES. AND THEY ARE ASTRONOMICAL FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, I HAVE EARD THE CONVERSATION. SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND WORRIED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT

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BY FAR. HOWEVER THAT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IT IS JUST AN INTERESTING FACT BUT IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT, WE NEED TO BE CALLED OUT ON THAT.

IF WE ARE COLLECTING IT WE NEED TO SPEND IT.

AND THE CONVERSATION THAT I'M SMILING ABOUT THIS SITUATION IS THAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO AND HOW WILL WE DO IT.

AND DOES THE ENTIRE COMMISSION HAVE A VOICE AND UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE ARE VOTING FOR THE PROJECTS AND THE BIGGEST PIECES

IMPACT FEES. >> SINCE WE NEED THIS BADLY, WE

SHOULD BE WELL-VERSED. >> FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN EXCUSE. NO EXCUSE.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY TYPICALLY COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE IMPACT FEES THE IMPACT FEES ARE TIED GEOGRAPHICALLY TO THE GENERATOR OF THE IMPACT FEE AND THE EXPENSES THAT ARE TIED TO THE AREA. IN THE CITY WE HAVE AN IMPACT FEE AND OUR AREAS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT IS WHY IT IS SO EASY FOR US TO HAVE THIS BECAUSE AN URBAN INFIELD AREAS ALREADY BUILT OUT. WE ALREADY HAVE STREETLIGHTS AND ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED.

WE ARE ESTABLISHING WHERE WE CAN THINK THE FUNDS WHERE WE RETAINED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. AND THE CONNECTION TO EDWARDS ROAD, IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE LATELY THAT IS BECOMING A MESSAGE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. THAT IS OUR FIRST JOINT VENTURE.

>> IN ADDITIONAL, AS WE GROW OUR CITY AND THE CRICKET LINES, WE NEED THAT, THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES ALONE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED, SO THAT IS JUST PART OF BEING INCORPORATED DOING BUSINESS. I'M ALWAYS CHALLENGED BY IMPACT FEES. I JUST WANT THEM TO MAKE SENSE.

>> WERE ALL GOOD WITH THE PROPOSAL PLEX WELL GOOD.

[i. Compensation for the Mayor and Commissioners]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS COMPENSATION FOR THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS

PICK. >> THIS WAS REQUESTED BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. OUR SALARIES FROM 16 MUNICIPALITIES AND ALSO IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A SALARY BUMP YOU HAVE TO DIRECT STAFF TO INCLUDE YOU AND THE SALARY

INCREASE. >> I MEANT POPULATIONS OF LESS

THAN 80,000 PEOPLE, MY BAD. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. DO THOSE FIGURES INCLUDE HEALTH

INSURANCE AND PENSION. >> SALARY ONLY.

>> I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CALCULATED.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE I DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE WITH THE CITY BUT MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE DO AND THAT IS NOT OF MY

[04:55:03]

I'M NOT SURE. >> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ELECTION PROCESS WHAT IS COUNTED TOWARDS YOUR COMPENSATION IS YOUR ACTUAL SALARY PLUS -- PLUS YOUR LOANS.

>> I LOOKED IT UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE MAKING I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT OUR CURRENT SALARY WAS.

>> IS IT AN EVEN NUMBER QUICKSAND OF COURSE IT IS AN EVEN NUMBER. WOULD YOU FOLKS LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE MAKING OR YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

PRESIDIO FOR COMMISSIONS MAKE 33,400.

THAT INCLUDES THE CAR ALLOWANCE. THE MAYOR MAKES 41,701 WHICH INCLUDES THE CAR ALLOWANCE. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE NOT NECESSARILY FACTORED INTO THIS CHART OR ANYTHING, BUT WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE PENSION AND THE MONEY GETS PAID FOR THAT.

PEEK I HAVE MY IDEAS ON THIS BUT I WILL LET OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK FIRST. SO ANYONE ELSE NEEDS TO GO.

>> I WAS IN COMMISSION PARAGRAPH WAS ONE OF THE ONES, I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY TO ASK FOR IT FOR THIS STUDY TO.

ONE OF THE THINGS I SIGNED ON, THE FIRST THING I HEARD WAS I WAS CONSIDERED A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. FROM DAY ONE, OF SITTING IN THAT SEAT, THAT IS NOT TRUE. I AM A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.

, CITY COMMISSIONER MADAME MAYOR YOU ARE AND SOME TYPE OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY. THE EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T SIT UP.

, HAVE THE RIGHT OR EASILY CAN SAY, COME TO MY OFFICE MONDAY AT 8:00 A.M. ON TILL FRIDAY 5:00 P.M., AND THEY ARE OFF OF THE CLOCK. AS AN OFFICIAL WE CAN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE ARE JUST HERE ON THE 1ST AND 3RD MONDAYS, WE ARE HERE EVERY OTHER MONTH FOR A CONFERENCE AGENDA, BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND THEY DON'T SEE ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, ALL OF THE APPOINTMENTS, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

ALL OF US APPEAR, HAVE OTHER JOBS THAT WE ARE LEAVING TO COME TO THE WORK OF THE CITY. NO ONE FORCED US TO COME UP HERE. I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT.

HOWEVER THE WORKLOAD THAT THE CONFLICT DOES NOT SEE, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DO, AND THE WORKLOAD THAT THE MAYOR DOES IN HER POSITION AS MAYOR, PEOPLE REALLY DON'T SEE WHAT WE DO.

I WANTED TO BRING DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN, WE'VE HEARD MS. MORRIS TALKING ABOUT THE 5% INCREASE OR ANYTHING, WHATEVER THE NUMBER YOU JUST READ, IT IS WHAT IT IS, OF COURSE THEY WILL SAY, THE CITY PAYS FOR YOU.

YOU JUST GO TO A RETIREMENT CONVENTION AND THE CITY PAID FOR

THAT. >> YOU HAD A WILD TIME TOO.

>> I WAS LIKE GUYS YOU DO KNOW WHEN I WENT THERE IT WASN'T MY I WAS OUT PARTYING, I WAS IN THE ROOM WITH A BOOK STUDYING,

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I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE ALL WORK HARD AND IT IS TIME NOW TO SEE IF IT IS WE WANT TO CONSIDER, OR KEEPING IT AS IS.

I THINK IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.

IF I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS THAT WAY I AM FINE WITH THE.

I AM THE BAD GUY SOME DAYS. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIVE OF US WORKED 24 HOURS PER DAY. JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT SEE US APPEAR, WE ARE OPEN TO YOU 24 HOURS PER DAY.

MY E-MAILS, MY PHONE, AND I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT GETS STOPPED IN PUBLIC, I THOUGHT ONE TIME THE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO PUT ME OUT OF WALMART BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS HAVING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN WALMART. A TOWN HALL MEETING IN WALMART BECAUSE PEOPLE KEPT ASKING ME QUESTIONS.

I WANTED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT BECAUSE AT THAT TIME SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COMING TO ME WERE BASED ON THIS INFORMATION.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS THE ONLY ONE, I WILL PUT THAT ON THE RECORD I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR.

>> I THINK BESIDES THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE ON AND THE COMMITMENT OF STUDYING AND PARTICIPATING ON THAT AS WELL AS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE COMMISSIONERS DO BASED ON THE SIZE OF THEIR CITY. THE OTHER THINK THAT AS TO FACTOR IN IN WE TALKED ABOUT OVERALL CONSUMER INDEXING GOING UP AND THE COST OF GOODS GOING UP SO THAT HAS TO BE FACTORED IN THEIR AS THINGS COST MORE, BASIC NECESSITIES AND OPPORTUNITY COSTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORK WE DO ON THE CITY COMMISSION AND EVEN IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE OFFICIAL COMMUNITIES BUT THE NUMBER OF OTHER COMMITTEES THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITIES YOU PARTICIPATE AND ENGAGE IN AND BRING THAT ALONG AND BRINGING THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO. I THINK THAT FACTORED WITH THIS CITY, THIS DOESN'T TELL ME ON MANY CITIES ARE ACTUALLY HAVING AN AFFILIATION OR TIED TO AN ELECTRIC PRINCIPALITY AS FAR AS ELECTRICITY, AND WATER, UTILITY. ASSOCIATION.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS AS I HAVE COME UPON THREE YEARS GOING INTO FOUR YEARS ON THIS COMMISSION, I WASN'T NAÏVE WHEN I GOT HERE I KNEW THE WORK I WAS SIGNING UP FOR.

IT IS CONTINUING TO EXPAND AND I THINK THE LEVEL OF REQUIREMENT THAT WE ARE NOT PART-TIME. WE PUT IN HOURS WHERE WE CAN FULFILL THOSE OBLIGATIONS. AS WE ALL THINK ABOUT THAT AS A COMMISSION TO SIT HERE, THAT NEEDS TO BE FACTORED INTO WHERE WE CURRENTLY SIT AND AN INCREASE INTO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THAT IS MY OPINION AND THAT IS WHAT I WILL STICK WITH.

>> I AM OKAY WITH WHERE IT IS NOW.

I WAS SURPRISED YEARS AGO IN 2010 OR 2012, BEFORE YOU TOOK

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COMMISSIONERS FROM $10,000. >> THAT WAS IN 2004.

>> WAS A MEANING WHERE THE HURRICANES HAD JUST HAPPENED.

>> CITY COMMISSIONER'S 10000-12,000, AND THE MAYOR WAS 14,000. IT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE AND WHILE IT WOULD BE NICE TO CHANGE IT, I'M OKAY WITH WHERE IT IS. I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN EVEN NUMBER AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GIVE OURSELVES INCREASES WHEN WE DO COLA INCREASE WOULD THINK IT SHOULD BE SEPARATE AND NICE ROUND NUMBER. AND IF WE WANT TO INCREASE SHOULD BE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM AND WE SHOULD JUST VOTE AT THAT.

>> IT HAS TO BE DONE BY ORDINANCE WHERE THE NUMBER IS

SPECIFIED IN THE CODE. >> MY MEMORY IS, WE HAD TO SET

OUR SALARIES. >> FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WE WOULD SAY DO NOT INCLUDE THE COMMISSION.

>> RIGHT. SO AT SOME POINT, EVENTUALLY WE SAID WE ARE SENDING OUR SALARIES OURSELVES.

>> I UNDERSTAND, WE ARE VERY BUSY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

BUT ARGUMENTS RELATING TO THE CHART IN FRONT OF US APPEAR AND TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE, WITH OTHER AGENCIES ARE UNITS POLITIES, I THINK WE ARE AT A GOOD POINT.

I LIKE IT AS IS. THANK YOU.

>> AM ALSO ONE OF THE ONES THAT SUGGESTED THIS NEEDS TO BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. AS THE NEWEST PERSON ON THIS BODY I JUST HAVE SOME OBSERVATIONS.

I CONSIDER, AND I THINK YOU CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, I LOOK AT GOVERNMENT, IT IS A BUSINESS. IT MAY BE A NONPROFIT BUT IT IS STILL A BUSINESS IN SOME CAPACITY.

OUT OF THAT BUSINESS THIS GROUP IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THAT BUSINESS AND WE MANAGE THE AFFAIRS OR SET POLICY FOR THE TEAM TO MANAGE THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY.

I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT IS UNDER COMPENSATED AND THE PUBLIC REALM OR PRIVATE ROOM SERVING ON CORPORATE BOARDS OF DIRECTORS, ET CETERA.

I BELIEVE IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AND DELETE I SIT IN AND I RESPECT THAT IN TOTALITY. BUT I AM TROUBLED BY CERTAIN CAPACITIES OF THE WORKLOAD AND OUT IT GENERATES TO SOMEONE WHO IS SELF-EMPLOYED. WE HAVE MULTIPLE SELF-EMPLOYED PEOPLE HERE AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON YOUR ABILITY TO GENERATE A LIVING. I THINK WE ARE CREATING A HALF AND HAVE NOT SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO CANNOT RUN FOR ANY ELECTED POSITION AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE TIME COMMITMENT NECESSARY. WE ALL HAVE THE LATITUDE TO COORDINATE OUR SCHEDULE AND WORKLOAD TO DO THAT.

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY DO THEM.

I WOULD SAY NOT MANY. ONE REASON IS BASED ON THE COMPENSATION LEVEL PAID AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO SUGGEST WE ARE WOEFULLY UNDERPAID OR UNDER COMPENSATED.

BUT THIS WEEK IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

WOMEN ENTIRE DAY. THAT IS A RARITY, I GET IT.

AN ENTIRE DAY BEING COMMITTED. TOMORROW EVENING WE HAVE FPRA.

THEN OFFICE HOURS AND CONSTITUENT MEETINGS THURSDAY WE HAVE RETIREMENT BOARD IT IS A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT OF TIME AND I THOUGHT THE MEMO NICK SENT AROUND.

IT RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN PROVIDES ANSWERS.

DO THESE OTHER COMMISSIONERS DO THEY SERVE ON VOLUNTEER BOARDS.

OUR DATE LIAISONS. OR IS THERE A STRUCTURE

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I CONSIDER THE NUMBERS TO BE RELEVANT UNLESS WE HAVE MORE DETAILS AS TO THEIR DUTIES AND COMMITMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

HAVING SAID THAT, I DO AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT FIRST OFF, COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS WHILE AN ORDINANCE, SOMEWHAT IT IS AN ABSTRACT IT IS A NECESSITY.

THE CPI WAS 14%. THAT IS AN EROSION SINCE THE SALARIES WERE SET IN 2004. THE BUYING POWER OF THE LEVEL OF SALARY THAT HAS BEEN SET SINCE THEN IS PROBABLY IF NOT LESS THAN A HALF, MORE THAN HALF HAS BEEN ERODED BASED ON COST-OF-LIVING INCREASES SINCE THOSE WERE PUT INTO PLACE.

THERE IS A UNIQUE BALANCE BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF HOURS YOU NEED TO PUT IN TO EFFECTIVELY EXECUTE THIS POSITION OR NOT.

IT WOULD BREAK MY HEART TO SEE THAT PEOPLE WERE NOT PUTTING IN THE TIME IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY'S MEETING I'M NOT THE FASTEST I PUT IN TWO HOURS GOING THROUGH THE PAPERWORK TO TURN FOR THE HOUR MEETING. I KNOW THE WORKLOAD AND MY PRISM IS LOOKING AT IT AS A BRAND-NEW PERSON.

I AM PRIVILEGED TO SIT ON THIS. IT HASN'T DAMAGED MY BUSINESS WERE MINIMIZED BY BUSINESS OPERATIONS SO I CAN PARTICIPATE AT THE LEVEL I DEEM APPROPRIATE. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE HAD TO MINIMIZE OUR BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND RESTRUCTURE THINGS. I'M CERTAINLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OFFSET BY THE LOSS BECAUSE OF THAT TRANSLATION. I DO BELIEVE IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN 30 HOURS PER WEEK AND STILL HAVE A CAREER OUTSIDE OF.

THERE NEEDS -- THERE NEEDS TO BE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT COMPENSATION WILL BE GENERATED TO SUPPORT THAT.

I WILL ALSO ADD TO THAT, IN MY OPINION IF THE CITY WAS IN THE POSITION WHERE IT WASN'T FINANCIAL DRESS I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO SAY THIS IS NOT THE TIME,.

>> THE BUDGET IS NOW COMMITTED TO SALARIES.

AND A MINOR ADJUSTMENT FOR THE PEOPLE PUTTING IN AN EFFORT.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS UNWARRANTED.

I WOULD ALSO SAY ONE ADDITIONAL POLITICALLY ASTUTE TO SAY THIS IS THE WAY HE SHOULD GO, BUT FROM MY ANALYSIS LOOKING AT THIS, IT IS CERTAINLY WARRANTED. I DON'T KNOW NUMBERS TO DICTATE, EXCEPT TO SAY I DO RESPECT THE FACT THERE ARE BENEFITS.

CITY INSURANCE. I CAN'T GET THIS INSURANCE OF THE PRIVATE. I AM THRILLED IT IS MADE AVAILABLE TO ME. THERE IS A SET UP BECAUSE OF THAT. DO YOU SHORTEN THE HOURS YOU WILL PUT IN MY DECISION IS NO. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

I'VE MADE THE COMMITMENT OF CONTINUE TO DO THE JOB AND

EXECUTE IT REPEATEDLY. >> ARM A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I'M RETIRED, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT PULLS MY TIME. IN A WAY I DON'T HAVE, HONESTLY, I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME LIKE IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS WHO HAVE SOME KIND OF WORK OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMISSION.

IN FACT, MY FIRST FOUR YEARS AS MAYOR I DID NOT TAKE A SALARY.

LET ME TELL YOU THAT WAS THOUGHT TO BE A GREAT IDEA AND EVERYONE THOUGHT I WAS NOT SPARED IT WAS SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE PORT ST. LUCIE DID THIS. THEY HAD QUITE A BIG INCREASE.

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THEY ARE KEEPING THEIR FULL-TIME JOB.

WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO, INSTEAD OF GETTING MORE MONEY WE NEED TO CREATE MORE TIME. AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXTRACT SOME OF YOU AND THEY SHOULD TAKES THE SAME SALARY INCREASE HAS THE PEOPLE WORK FOR THEM. IT IS THE SAME PHILOSOPHY.

THAT IS THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT. >> LET ME MAKE SURE THE LAST

COMMENT THAT YOU MADE -- >> IF THEY IF THE EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING 5%, THINK THE BOSSES SHOULD GET 5%.

>> THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SAID.

I THINK WE CAN DETERMINE THAT. MY PERSONAL BELIEF IS WE THINK

LESS THAN THAT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO FACTOR IN WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE SALARIES WE HAVE WHEN YOU CALLED OUT THE NUMBERS. WHAT DOES 5% LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST IN THE BUDGET.

I COULD LOOK AT THAT AND SAY I WILL BUMP THAT DOWN AND DIVIDE IT. THAT IS WHERE I AM MAD.

>> I WAS TOTALLY ON THE WRONG TRACK.

>> WE ARE NOT TALKING $60,000 PER.

>> I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT PORT ST. LUCIE DID.

[05:20:02]

>> NO. >> I SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A

CLARIFICATION. >> CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

>> I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER,.

>> AND ALL WE HEARD TODAY WAS, LIKE KEVIN SAID, CPI.

I HAVE HEARD JUST LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE.

AND AND WE WILL HAVE THE AUDIENCE AND THE CHAMBERS FOR.

BUT WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO BUDGET AND ONCE THE NUMBES, WE MAY SAY NO. OR WE MAY SAY THAT IS FAIR.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE DISCUSSION IN THE LAST TIME WE HAD WAS TO FILE ZERO FOUR. -- 2004.

I AM TALKING INDEXING THE SALARY NUMBERS.

BRINGING NUMBERS WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

>> WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. >> I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.

GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT IT IS PART OF OUR MAKEUP.

UTILIZING THE FIGURES, THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING COMPONENTS.

CPI INCREASES THE SALARY AND I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.

ONCE AGAIN WE DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY IN OUR BUSINESS WAS THE LAST TIME THE CITY COMMISSION DID RECEIVE AN INCREASE. LET'S SAY IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.

AND IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WHAT IT HAS BEEN.

THERE'S A 40-CENT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RATE STRUCTURE WAS PUT INTO PLACE AND 40% LESS THEN THE TIME OF ORIGINATION.

WE DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY. I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE. ALL URBAN CONSUMERS OR WHATEVER THE WAGE STRUCTURE IS AND BEING UTILIZED.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME PUT INTO PLACE.

AND NOW IT IS WORTH $18,000. THAT'S HOW THE NUMBERS WORK AND WE LOOK AT THIS EVERY DAY. WE LOOK TO MAINTAIN THE SAME EVALUATIONS AND MONEY YOU ARE LAYING OUT TO DO WHATEVER.

THAT I FEEL YOU NEED TO COME BACK AND RECAPTURE.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 14% AND PURCHASING POWER THAT HAS BEEN ERODED. THAT'S THE REALITY.

NO ONE WANTS TO ADMIT IT. THAT IS THE REALITY OF THE NUMBERS WORK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ANALYSIS

AND THE INCREASES. >> FOR COUPLE OF YEARS WE

DIDN'T. >> THIS WAS THE LAST TIME A C OLA INCREASE WAS DONE. THERE HAD BEEN OTHERS WHEN COMMISSIONER BETH WOULD SAY NOT ME.

I PARTED FORWARD BECAUSE THE NUMBER IS SPECIFIED IN THE CODE.

[05:25:08]

THIS WAS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO THERE WASN'T REALLY CLEAR DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW WHERE THE

INCREASE WAS IMPROVED. >> 3508 AND CHANGE.

THAT'S WHAT WE ALL DO. >> I WOULD JUST DO TWO OF THEM

NOT ALL OF THEM. >> I CAN APPRECIATE THAT ARGUMENT. WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE, THIS IS A GREAT EXERCISE, I THINK WE WOULD GIVE MORE INFORMATION AND DATA, YOU WERE THINKING ONE HIGH LEVEL AND I'M NOT CLOSE TO WHERE YOU

WERE THINKING. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE

REVERSE HERE. >> WE NEED THOSE.

>> AND DISPOSE WHERE IT GOES. WE CHALLENGE EACH OTHER, BUT YET AND STILL WE DON'T EVEN LOOK AT A SMALL INDEX TO DO THE WORK AND THE MEANINGS AND COLLABORATIONS AND TALKING WITH THE COUNTY AND STATE PARTNERS AND GOING BACK AND FORTH TO GIVE RESOURCES.

WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A MARGINAL INCREASE IN THE BASE SALARY. YOU WOULD REWARD YOUR BEST PERFORMING EMPLOYEES WORK YOU IF THEY DID THE JOB THEY WILL SHOW AND LET US KNOW, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IT WITH THEY

[05:30:02]

>> REALLY QUICK AND I WILL BE QUIET ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RESONATED WITH ME, SOMETHING THE COMMISSIONER SAID ROBERT B CURIOUS TO SEE THE CURRENT SALARY.

WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD THEN WHEN WE HAVE THOSE RETIREES THAT WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIFE FOR THE CITY AND WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND THEY ARE LIVING ON A RETIREMENT THAT WE GAVE THEM AT THAT LEVEL DURING THAT TIME DURING 2023 IS NOT EVEN WORTH IT.

I WOULD SAY THEY WOULDN'T TAKE A BUT I FELT THEIR PAIN WHEN THEY SAID THAT THERE I WAS CURIOUS, JUST WHAT IT WAS.

AND TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND JEREMIAH JOHNSON.

I AGREE, WE ASKED FOR THIS. I PUT MY NAME DOWN ON THE PAPER AND I ASKED FOR THIS. AND LUCKILY, THE RESIDENTS GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEM.

BUT AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST SAID.

I AM GIVING HUNDRED AND 30%. I DON'T THINK IT IS ROBBERY TO SAY, THE SAME EGGS THAT YOU BUY, WE ARE ALL OF READING THESE PACKAGES. THAT IS WHY PEGGY SAID I PUT IT ON THIS MORNING BECAUSE SHE KNEW FIVE OF US WOULD READ THAT AMENDMENT. THERE'S NOT A TIME WHEN WERE NOT WORKING. I WAS THERE BEFORE.

ARE THE STORIES WHERE PACKAGES WERE OPENED AT THE MEETING.

I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. >> TAKES THE RUBBER BAND OFTEN EVERYONE CAN HEAR IT. UP FRONT WERE NOT LIKE THIS INTERVIEW COULD UNDERSTAND IF USE HERE AND LISTEN TO THE QUESTIONS YOU KNOW WE READ THE MATERIAL.

I'M JUST SAYING,. >> JUST A TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND GET NUMBERS AND IF YOU LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT EVERYONE MAKE A VOTE AND WE GO FROM THERE. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

>> STAFF HAS TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION.

YOU KNOW WHERE I AM. I AM NO MORE THAN WHAT THE STAFF

GETS. >> I THINK I SAW ON THE BUDGET, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT INCREASES IN THERE, AND THE BUDGET AND THE LINE ITEM. I THOUGHT I SAW THE BUDGET TOTAL CHANGE WITH SALARIES. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CITY COMMISSION. I HAD THAT HIGHLIGHTED ON MY PART THAT I DID NOT WITH ME TODAY EXTENDS THE CITY COMMISSION SALARY AND WAGES NUMBERS DID NOT CHANGE ONLY THE NUMBERS THAT RETIREMENT CLOSE TO HAD A HEALTH INCREASE.

MAINLY THE RETIREMENT COSTS. THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN THE

[05:35:05]

INSURANCE. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SEA OLA

WAS LAST YEAR? >> 5%.

>> 5%. AND THAT IS THE NUMBER.

IF I WAS DOING THESE DOCUMENTS RIGHT NOW LOOKING TO CALCULATE INCREASE, THOSE WOULD BE THE NUMBERS.

IS DEFINABLE THE NUMBERS ARE PUBLISHED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THAT IS THE NUMBER.

THAT IS MY PERSPECTIVE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DOLLARS.

LET'S ASSUME YOU PUT A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT IN.

IN 2022 THAT'S JUST HOW WE WORK WITH.

>> THAT WOULD PUT IT CLOSE TO 30,000.

>> WEAR AND TEAR FOR A VEHICLE IS AN EXPENSE.

>> ABOUT THE IRS CONSIDER IT. >> WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE TOYOTA SHIP DEALER MPA $100,000 FOR A TRUCK I DON'T LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT. AND SOMEONE HAS TO GIVE DIRECTION SO SHE CAN PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.

OR WE CAN VOTE ON AN ORDINANCE. >> WHEN I AM SUGGESTING YOU WOULD MIRROR THE SAME COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT PROVIDED CITY STAFF FOR LAST YEAR THIS YEAR. IT STOPPED IN 2021.

THAT WAS SPELLED OUT IN THE ORDINANCE.

YOU NEED TO TO IT BY ORDINANCE WHY DIDN'T WE TO A.

>> WE BROUGHT IT UP AND TURNING 21 AND VOTED ON IT.

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT UP EVERY YEAR IF YOU WANT AN INCREASE. AND THAT IS.

CLARITY. >> THIS IS VERY BLACK AND WHITE

TO ME. >> JUST SO I AM CLEAR YOUR IS TO GO BACK AND GIVE THE 5% RAISE FOR EACH YEAR END RUN THE NUMBERS AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE MAKE A VOTE, THE PERMISSION COMMISSION PHOTON WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS AND WHATEVER DATA WE

VOTE ON IT. >> YES.

>> ARE WE TALKING RETROACTIVE PAY EXPANSION NOTE THAT THE NEW NUMBER EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 OR WHATEVER.

>> WE SET THE BENCHMARK FOR THAT PARTICULAR DAY.

>> I THINK IT SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1.

THAT WAY EVERY YEAR DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION YOU CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. IF WE DO IT AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT GIVES JOHN PUTTING UP TIMES TO INC. AND HE GIVES US THE TIME TO ADVERTISE THE ORDINANCE AND HOLD THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

>> TO THE COMMISSIONERS WHO BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I AM JUST SAYING, I JUST

ASSUMED, YES. >> JUST A QUESTION FOUR CLARITY.

WHAT JUST HAPPENED. I KNOW THERE HAS TO BE AN ORDINANCE. THEY COME BACK WE MAKE A -- ARE

[05:40:02]

WE HAVE TO PUT, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE TO SAY ARE WE GOING TO VOTE EVERY YEAR ON 5% OR ARE WE GOING TO --

>> TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THE COMMISSIONER'S ANNUAL COMPENSATION IS QUANTIFIED ON THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

WHAT IT SAYS IS IN ORDER TO AMEND THAT ANNUAL COMPENSATION YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BY ORDINANCE.

SO BASED ON THE DISCUSSION TODAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO STOP WILL COME BACK WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE WHICH WILL BE PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND THERE WILL BE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND AT THAT POINT IF THE COMMISSION VOTES TO AMEND CHAPTER TWO, SECTION TWO -- 19, YOUR SALARIES WILL BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.

IT WILL STAY THAT WAY UNTIL FURTHER AMENDMENT.

YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO VISIT IT ANNUALLY BUT YOU COULD IF IT IS

YOUR DESIRE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT

CLARIFICATION. >> BECAUSE IT IS AN ORDINANCE.

TWO HEARINGS. AND I THINK THAT IS WHY IT IS WRITTEN IN THE COLD THAT WAY. MY PERSONAL OPINION, WORMER VOTED ON THE ORIGINAL, WAS BECAUSE IT WASN'T TO BE VISITED EVERY YEAR. THAT IS JUST MY PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. IT IS AN ORDINANCE.

ORDINANCES ARE DIFFERENT THAN RESOLUTIONS.

THEY ARE DIFFERENT. >> THEY SHOULD BE VISITED EVERY

YEAR. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS THE VISION OF THE PEOPLE THAT -- I'M NOT SURE THAT IS THE VISION.

MAYBE NOT. >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

>> WE DON'T KNOW. >> EITHER WAY.

THE POINT IS, ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC, IT IS PUBLICLY INITIATED TO MODIFY THE COMMISSION. THE OTHER THING IS, I HEARD 10% BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OTHER NUMBERS.

IS 10% WHAT IS COMING. >> I MADE MY POSITION OWN.

I WILL TAKE WHAT THE STAFF IS GETTING THIS YEAR, UP TO THAT.

>> I THINK WE NEED CONSENSUS. >> THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO

BRING. >> I HAVE HEARD DIFFERENT NUMBERS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HEARD

CONSENSUS. >> I AGREE.

>> WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE WILL PROCEED THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT.

IT HURTS MY HEAD TO HAVE THIS. >> I AM STILL SITTING ON 0.

>> DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT A NICE ROUND NUMBER QUICKSAND THAT IS UP TO THE GUYS TRYING TO CHANGE IT.

>> I CAME UP WITH 30,000 $600. -- 30,000 $600600.

>> THIS IS WHAT IT WILL COME BACK IN FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.

>> I DON'T -- I APPRECIATE THE ROUNDING.

[j. Review of compensation and benefits for City employees.]

>> CAN WE MOVE ON BECAUSE I AM ALREADY LATE FOR AN APPOINTMENT.

>> MOVING ON WE HAVE REVIEW OF COMPENSATION FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

>> THIS EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS REVIEW THIS ITEM

[05:45:03]

>> CONGRATULATIONS ON THE YOUTH COUNCIL.

THAT IS GREAT NEWS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE ANNUITY CAP THAT IS THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. IT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2012 AS A COST EXPENDITURE CONTROL MECHANISM.

CURRENTLY AND EMPLOYEES HIRED AFTER ARE RESTRICTED TO AN ANNUITY OF $100,000. I'VE NEVER HEARD THESE THREE WORDS MENTION SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF MY EMPLOYMENT, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN AS WE LOOK AT 2012 COMPARED TO 2,023. THAT IS A $100,000 ANNUITY AND WOULD BE WORTH TODAY 100 30,000 DOLLARS.

THAT IS SOMETHING YOU ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT NOW PLEASE DO SO IF NOT I CAN MOVE AHEAD IN

THE PRESENTATION. >> IT IS A $100,000 ANNUITY CAP FOR ALL EMPLOYEES HIRED AFTER 2012.

>> I IT SHOULD BE INCREASE BUT NOT TO ONE 30, 000.

BUT NOT TO 130, 000. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD MY COMMENT INTO THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? OKAY MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THE JOB EXTENSION WAS ECHOED BY COMMAND STAFF. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT A CITY COMMISSION RESULTED IN A REQUEST FROM THE RETIREMENT FUND TO PROVIDE CALCULATIONS ON MODEL SHOWING FISCAL IMPACT OF THOSE INITIATIVES. AS YOU SEE FROM THE SCREEN IT SAYS NO-COST OPTION, NO COST-BENEFIT AND RETAINING EXPERIENCED EMPLOYEES. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE.

THE ACTUARY BASICALLY GAVE US THIS RESPONSE.

THESE CALCULATIONS WERE NOT PERFORMED AND ONLY AN OPINION WAS PROVIDED STATING WE HAVE NOT PERFORMED ANY DETAILED CALCULATIONS BUT WE HAVE SOME OPINIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.

FIRST IF THIS IS EXPENDED THIS MEANS WE DO NOT EXPECT AMOUNTS TO INCREASE MATERIALLY BUT THE RATES OF THE REMAINING PAY WILL AND THE AMOUNTS AND RATES COULD BECOME MORE VOLATILE.

THAT IS FROM BRADLEY ARMSTRONG. >> THEY CAN RETAIN STAFF WHILE IT IS VERY HARD TO RECRUIT AND RTAIN THOSE TYPE OF INDIVIDUALS. THAT IS SOMETHING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LINE

A. >> ISN'T THIS DONE?

>> THEY DID EXTEND FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

IT WAS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT NOW ALL EMPLOYEES AT THIS TIME.

WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT IT, WHAT DID YOU SAY WOULD MAKE IT MORE VOLATILE. HE SAID THE RATES WILL, INCREASE

[05:50:07]

I'M GONNA SAY IT AND THIS WHOLE ISSUE HAS SO MANY VARIATIONS.

PEOPLE COULD DIE. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF VARIATIONS HERE. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE. BUT IT IS NO COST TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND IT COULD BE INTERPRETED A STRATEGY FOR SUCCESSION. THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT.

>> I AM NOT SURE WHY THEY DID. TRIED TO READ ABOUT IT AND LOOK

INTO IT. >> THEY DID IT FOR THE SAME

REASON. >> BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION.

ALL KINDS OF SEALS. >> THAT IS AN INTERESTING TAKEAWAY. I HAVE NOT AND THIS ISSUE IN THE ANALYSIS. THIS IS THE PERCEPT PERCEPTION OF SENIOR STAFF, QUALIFIED PEOPLE BEING FORCED BECAUSE THEIR DURATION HAS TIMED OUT AND I WERE ABILITY TO REPLACE THEM.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE A BRAIN DRAIN. AND I SEE THIS ACROSS THE INDUSTRY. I'M SURE YOU MUST SEE THE SAME THING. WHEN YOU ARE LOSING THESE PEOPLE LEAVING THE AVENUE OPEN I THINK PUBLIC WORKS WAS ONE EXAMPLE I HAD HEARD. NOW MANY PEOPLE ARE RUNNING OUT TO GET A DIESEL MECHANIC CERTIFICATION TO FILL THE ROLE ONCE THE PERSON IS GONE. PROBABLY NOT ALLOWED.

FROM A PAY SCALE PERSPECTIVE AND THE POSITION IS IN HIGH DEMAND BUT LOW PARTICIPATION. IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETAIN SEASONED VETERAN EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE A BASIC KNOWLEDGE.

>> SO 30 YEARS MAXIMUM AS OUR RULES READ.

I CAN STILL WORK CURE FOR 45 YEARS, THIS IS A RETIREMENT BENEFIT THING. PEOPLE ELECT VOLUNTARILY TO GO INTO IT. WE DON'T HAVE THIS.

[05:55:14]

BUT. >> I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION

ONCE AGAIN. >> RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE FORWARD.

>> YOU CANNOT CALCULATED. I CAN'T GIVE YOU MORE

INFORMATION SIR, REALLY CAN'T. >> I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE NEGATIVE. WE ALSO NEED APRIL ACTIVE PLAN.

WE KNOW THAT PERSON HAS A DEFINED TERM WHEN THEY ENTER

DROP. >> WILL OBTAIN JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND REVIEW THE FINDINGS OF THE STUDY.

FINALIZE THE STUDY BY GETTING FEEDBACK.

AND THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS REVIEW THE NUMBER OF GRAYS WITH A 65% RAISE AND DIFFERENTIAL CALCULATED AT THE MIDPOINT THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM RANGE FOR THE FIRST THREE THAT WOULD REFLECT THIS CHANGE.

AND THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE EXISTING POSITIONS AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL STUDY. SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TO ME PROPOSE GRADES BASED ON THE STRUCTURE AND THIS WAS ROUGHLY THAT AT THE STUDY. IF HE DOES STICK AROUND HE WOULD RECEIVE THE BONUS PAYMENT. AN EMERGENCY EFFORT TO I THINK WE HAVE SLOWED DOWN THE EXIT RATE AND WE ARE GETTING STABILITY IN OUR SOLID RACE -- SOLID WASTE OPERATION.

NUMBER SEVEN WAS AFTER ANALYZING THE DATA.

WE FOUND BOTH SALARY RANGES WAS 2%.

AND THE INCREASE WON'T RESOLVE THE ISSUE BUT WORK TOWARDS A COMPETITIVE ATMOSPHERE THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

THIS IS THE TASK WE WERE GIVEN ALL OF THESE ARE FIGURED INTO THE BUDGET. I DIDN'T AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. I THINK YOURS WAS OMITTED.

>> DOES THIS ATTACHED. >> THE CHARTER OFFICE WAS

[06:00:23]

EMPLOYEES. >> MAKES SENSE.

>> I WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAW. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE SOME EARLY EXITS POTENTIALLY.

SOME CEASES THAT LEAVING BECAUSE THEY WILL TIME-OUT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. UNDERSTAND THE PULLEY.

>> IN THE CURRENT JOB MARKET. >> I AGREE.

I WAS WONDERING. THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN SAY, I PROVE MYSELF AS A YOUNGER PROFESSIONAL, I AM GOING LIKE THIS. I AM GOING AGAINST ME HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FOR A PROMOTION.

A AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, I WANT THE BEST INDIVIDUALS AS A TEAM.

IF THEY ARE HITTING THE ROADBLOCK THEY WILL HAVE THE ROADBLOCK AND THE ISSUES OF THE CLOCK.

ANY KEEP US TO A POINT AND THEN LEWISTON SAY THAT OTHER THINGS ARE NOT RELATED AND THEN OPTION BECAUSE THE PERSON IS STILL ON

[06:05:01]

CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE CREATED. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN EXTRA THREE YEARS. WHY DO WE DO THAT CAN WE SAY TWO YEARS. THAT WILL GIVE SOMEBODY, WE HAVE TWO MORE YEARS. ECHOES BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENT, THREE YEARS OR TWO YEARS MAYBE I WILL STICK AROUND AND MOVE UP. WHY ARE WE STUCK ON THE NUMBER EIGHT INSTEAD OF SAYING THE NUMBER SEVEN.

>> I THINK. >> WE NEED A CONSENSUS OF SOME SORT. WE ARE OKAY WITH IT.

>> IT WILL BRING IT BACK FOR A VOTE.

>> I'M OKAY. >> ADRIA.

WAKE UP. I BELIEVE THIS WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD. AND ONCE AGAIN THEY SAID LET'S SEE WHAT THE COMMISSION HAD TO SAY.

>> AND WE SAID LET'S SEE WHAT THE COMMISSION ADDED TO SAY.

>> THERE WAS A TIME WHEN IT WAS A TIRED TIME.

AND THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WHO THINK, NO ONE SHOULD BE GUARANTEED A SALARY THAT BEING IN RETIREMENT.

I AM JUST SAYING IT. SO I THINK THE STATE CHANGED IT TO 75% OF YOUR LAST FIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS STATE LAW. WHAT WE HAVE FOUR HOURS, $100,000. AND SO, I THINK SINCE IT HASN'T BEEN CHANGED SINCE 2012 WE SHOULD INCREASE IT.

I AM NOT, I DON'T THINK 130. I COULD GO 110-114.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN 100 AND YOU DON'T

WANT TO GO TO 130. >> MEET THEM IN THE MIDDLE AND

SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE. >> ANYBODY ELSE.

>> THAT IS THE LAST ITEM, YOU CAN LEAVE ANYTIME YOU WANT

MAYOR. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND DOING THAT.

[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> NOW THAT THE MAYOR IS GONE CAN'T WE PASS SOMETHING REALLY COOL. ANY PERSON WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION YOU MAY DO SO YOU ARE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES AND MS. COX WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS NEAR.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> SUSAN.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS IN A LONG DAY.

I MISS THE SHELTER PRESENTATION. I CAME AT THE IN.

I WANTED TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE.

[06:10:09]

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

I'M SORRY TO ASK THIS BUT DID THIS INCLUDE NUMBERS.

JUST LIKE I HEARD A LOT OF SUBJECTS ON STATISTICS AND INFORMATION. THOSE NUMBERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. YOU NEED TO KNOW THEM SO YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE SHELTER. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HEAR THEY HAD THE ADOPTION EVENT. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY HAD 200. EVERYONE OF THOSE IS IMPORTANT BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SHELTER IS HOUSING 200 MORE.

AND I WANTED TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER FOR BRINGING UP THE ISSUE ON THE PIT BULLS AND BASICALLY ALL DOGS.

THERE STILL TO MUCH IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDING GOING ON.

I AM A PEOPLE PERSON. I THINK THEY ARE GREAT DOGS, OBVIOUSLY IN THE WRONG ANSWER IT CAN BE A PROBLEM.

THE REALITY IS THEY ARE HARD TO ADOPT OUT.

THEY REALLY ARE. I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT HOPEFULLY THE COMMISSION, AND UPCOMING CONFERENCE HAVE A DISCUSSION. ON A POSSIBLE MANDATORY SPAY AND NEUTER ORDINANCE TO REALLY ADDRESS THE BREATHING PROBLEM.

OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE A LOT MORE AND THEN INCREASE IN YOU THE NATIONS. I DON'T WANT THIS JUST GEARED TOWARDS PIT BULLS. THERE ARE OTHER BREEDING GOING ON. WE NEVER USED TO SEE GERMAN SHEPHERDS. I AM SHOP AT HOW MUCH BREEDING IS GOING ON. THAT IS REALLY BOTHERSOME.

GERMAN SHEPHERDS, ARE HIGHLY ADAPTABLE BUT THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE RIGHT HANDS. THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO BE IN THE RIGHT HANDS. I AM HOPING THAT WILL HAPPEN.

I HAVE BEEN PROPOSING AND TRYING TO REDUCE OUT THE SHELTER AND YOUTH THE NATION DOESN'T GET COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL.

THE CLINIC NEEDS TO HAPPEN SUPERIOR EVERYONE IS WATCHING AND REALLY EXCITED. THAT IS WHEN I AM HERE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? ICD-9 I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

COMMENT. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS CITY COMMISSION BOARD AND COMMITTEE UPDATES.

>> HAVE NO UPDATES. >> NO UPDATE.

>> NO UPDATE. >> ALL RIGHT.

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