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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING OF 10/18/23 IS CALLED TO ORDER. IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[A. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH TO DEPARTMENTAL WITNESSES]

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR, THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH?

[B. IDENTIFICATION OF CASES IN COMPLIANCE OR RESCHEDULED]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE VACATION COMPLIANCE RESCHEDULED, CASE 14 DACHSHUND 72 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE, UNIT THE 1225, PEREZ. 1240 CARLTON COURT, SALVATORE RUFFO. 23-1528, 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 2224. 23-1525 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 4231.

FORT TRASK LLC. 23-1518, 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 5114, MARIA VERONIA VALDEZ. 23-1545 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE, 5314, FORMAN VACATION RENTAL PROPERTIES LLC. 23-1457 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 5423 PUSEY. 23-1519 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 6431. THE 23-1456 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 3425 LOPEZ.

THE 23 MINUS 1558 SOUTH CAUSEWAY PARK, DESIR. 23-1515 2400 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE 5512 . 23-2091 42 01 BANDY

[A. 22-2237 510 N 6th Street Cruickshank, Cephus Logan Winn]

BOULEVARD SKYLINE RECOVERY SERVICES. 23-1011 2807 AVENUE EAST, ALEXANDER GORDON. OUR FIRST CASE TODAY WILL BE FIFTH STREET. CRUIKSHANK? SO, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, BEFORE WE START THIS, SIR, CAN YOU TELL US YOUR NAME?

>> HI, MY NAME IS JOCK CHESTER.

>> SO, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WE RECEIVED A LETTER -- DO WE HAVE A HARD COPY OF THAT, LOGAN? THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED A LETTER, IT SAYS, TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, THIS LETTER IS TO GIVE JOCK CHESTER PERMISSION TO SPEAK WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ON BEHALF OF CRUIKSHANK ON BEHALF OF THE FOLLOWING PROPERTIES. THIS PROPERTY IS LISTED ON HERE, IT IS THEN SIGNED BY MR. CRUIKSHANK, POA.

I HONESTLY CANNOT READ THE SIGNATURE. THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS THAT THIS IS NOT NOTARIZED, SO I CANNOT CONFIRM WHO SIGNED THE LETTER. THERE IS ALSO A POWER OF ATTORNEY THAT WE RECEIVED AT SOME POINT, GRANTING WHAT IS PURPORTED TO BE A DURABLE POWER OF ATTORNEY TO HIS WIFE. SO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS -- I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEGAL SUFFICIENCY TO GRANT MR. CHESTER THE ABILITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MR. CRUIKSHANK TODAY ON THIS. I THINK HE COULD PROVIDE TESTIMONY IF IT IS RELEVANT, BUT AS FAR AS SPEAKING ON HIS BEHALF, I DON'T THINK THIS IS LEGALLY SUFFICIENT, BECAUSE WE CANNOT VERIFY WHO SIGNED THIS. BUT, ULTIMATELY, IT WILL BE YOUR DECISION, SO I WILL PASS THAT

OVER TO YOU TO SEE NOW. >> THE LEGAL SUFFICIENCY OF THIS DOCUMENT, OR THE FACT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A POWER OF

ATTORNEY? >> I THINK BOTH ARE AT PLAY.

BUT, JUST ADDRESSING THAT DOCUMENT, SPECIFICALLY, WITHOUT A VERIFICATION OF WHO SIGNED THAT, THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE, WITH THE LEGAL AUTHENTICITY OF THAT DOCUMENT. AND I APOLOGIZE. I GOT IT YESTERDAY, WE DID NOT GET THE CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU BEFORE TODAY.

>> THAT'S FINE. I COULD HAVE BROUGHT MORE INFORMATION, IF

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NEEDED. BUT, I AM THE REAL ESTATE BROKER OF RECORD FOR HIS PROPERTY PORTFOLIO. SO, IF IT IS OKAY FOR YOU, FOR ME TO SPEAK, AS A WITNESS OR SOMEONE ELSE, THAT WOULD BE FINE, AS

WELL. >> OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT, YES.

>> YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> ALL RIGHT, THEN. WE WILL DO THAT, WHEN IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK. WE WILL LET YOU SPEAK.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 22-2237, 510 NORTH SIXTH STREET. THE CASE WAS INITIATED JULY 14TH, 2022. THE OWNER, CEPHUS CRUIKSHANK, THE VIOLATIONS ARE 5.120 20 PERMIT REQUIRED, THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS FOR THE ROOF BEING DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT. THE RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY REQUESTED THAT THE CITY SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS IF A VIOLATION EXISTS, THEY BE GIVEN 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, FOR AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS, AND CURE ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS DESCRIBING IN THE ORDER, OR A FINE OF $100 BE ASSESSED. THERE WAS A ROOF PERMIT THAT EXPIRED WITHOUT ANY APPROVED INSPECTIONS BEING DONE, THAT IS THE INFORMATION WE HAVE FOR THAT. I DO HAVE A SET OF PICTURES OF THE

PROPERTY, AS WELL. >> TO THE PHOTOGRAPHS FAIRLY ACCURATELY DEPICT THE PROPERTY AS YOU OBSERVED IT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AT THIS TIME, I WILL MOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN AS CITIES COMPOSITE EVIDENCE ONE. AND MR., USUALLY, BUILDING DEPARTMENTS ARE IN FRONT OF A DIFFERENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. WAS THIS ONE BASICALLY CONFLICTED TO THIS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE? AND SINCE YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE MR. WINN OR THE BUILDING CASES, I WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHEN IT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU. OKAY. MR. WINN,

ANYTHING FURTHER? >> PHOTOS WILL BE ENTERED AS CITIES COMPOSITE ONE. SO, THE ISSUE -- THERE WAS A PERMIT, BUT IT EXPIRED, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THEY HAD A PERMIT, THEY NEVER HAD ANY INSPECTIONS APPROVED, AND THEN IT EXPIRED.

>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME?

>> NO. >> OKAY. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND

ADDRESS THAT. >> FANTASTIC. TODAY, I AM HERE BECAUSE MY OFFICE HAS BEEN APPOINTED AS THE REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE OF RECORD TO HANDLE THE SALE OF CEPHUS CRUIKSHANK'S PROPERTY. THROUGHOUT DUE DILIGENCE, I AM AWARE OF THE CODE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTIES.

BUT, TODAY, I'M STEPPING IN TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY PORTFOLIO AS PART OF A BANKRUPTCY, AND THIS PARTICULAR HOME IS ALSO UNDER A CONTRACT, AND ANY DECISION MADE AGAINST THE HOME COULD AFFECT THE SALE OF THIS PROJECT TRANSACTION. IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND TO GRANT AT LEAST ONE YEAR TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE BUYER OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WILL BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE, ONCE THIS REAL ESTATE SALE IS

COMPLETED. >> I'M ASSUMING THE CITY HAS AN

OBJECTION TO A YEAR? >> WE ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT TO A CONTINUANCE. AS YOU CAN SEE THE ISSUE WITH THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JULY 14TH OF 2022, SO WE ARE NOT IN

AGREEMENT TO A CONTINUANCE. >> AND I TRULY DO RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY BEING IN THE HANDS OF A NONCOMPLIANT OWNER WHO HASN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE JULY, RECOGNIZED, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. BUT, BEING IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO REVITALIZE THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS PROPERTY OUT OF THE HANDS OF A NONCOMPLIANT BUYER, OR A NONCOMPLIANT OWNER, AND TO A BUYER WHO IS ALIGNED WITH YOUR PERSONAL GOALS AND REDEVELOPMENT WITH THIS COMMUNITY. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THE PROPERTY STAYS IN THIS CONDITION, ULTIMATELY WHAT IT DOES IS HURT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE ON THE PICTURE YOURSELF, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO LEAVE THIS PROPERTY IN THAT TYPE OF CONDITION?

>> SO, YOU ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF PROSPECTIVE BUYERS, BUT NO

ONE SPECIFIC? >> THERE IS AN ACTIVE CONTRACT ON THIS PROPERTY. HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ANY DECISIONS MADE AGAINST THE PROPERTY, IT COULD POTENTIALLY HARM IT, BECAUSE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, I BELIEVE YOUR VIOLATION IS

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ASKING FOR $100 PER DAY TO BE ASSESSED.

>> AFTER 60 DAYS. >> AFTER 60 DAYS. AND AGAIN, THE CHALLENGE I'M DEALING WITH IS THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN A BANKRUPTCY. I WOULD ASK FOR A SHORTER TIME SPAN IF I THOUGHT I HAD MORE CONTROL OVER THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY. BUT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE NEED A BANKRUPTCY APPROVAL -- WHICH SHOULD BE SET FOR NOVEMBER THE SECOND -- THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. I AM FINE WITH A SMALLER WINDOW, MAYBE SIX MONTHS, IN ORDER TO GET THIS DONE.

HOWEVER, IF -- >> I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT YOU SAID NOVEMBER 2ND?

>> YES. >> WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT DAY? IS THAT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE BANKRUPTCY?

>> YES. WE SUBMITTED CONTRACTS FOR THE BANKRUPTCY APPROVAL OF

THE PROPERTY. >> AND THERE IS A HEARING ON

NOVEMBER 2ND, ON THE -- >> AS OF THIS MORNING, I SPOKE TO THE BANKRUPTCY ATTORNEY, AND HE STATED THAT HE COULD GET US

IN, ON NOVEMBER 2ND. >> MY MATH IS THAT MORE THAN

60 DAYS FROM NOW. >> IT IS A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS. AGAIN, WE ARE READY TO PROCEED FORWARD TODAY.

>> OKAY. WELL, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS IF IT IS, IN FACT -- IF IT IS WITHIN THE 60 DAYS, THEN THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE ANYTHING ASSESSED AGAINST THE PROPERTY, IF IT GOES INTO BANKRUPTCY, THE BANKRUPTCY COURT CAN PUT A STAY, IF THAT

IS WHAT IS NEEDED. >> NO, THE BANKRUPTCY IN ITSELF IS TO GRANT THE SALE -- TO APPROVE THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, MY GENERAL CONCERN HERE, AS THE BROKER OF RECORD, IS THE FACT THAT NOW, WE ARE ASKING THE NEW BUYER TO ACCEPT THE $100 A DAY FINE THAT IS BEING ASSESSED, IN THE EVENT THAT THE PROPERTY ISN'T REMEDIED WITHIN 60 DAYS. AND AGAIN, WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE PROPERTY OUT OF THIS NONCOMPLIANT OWNER'S HAND, AND TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TURN THE CITY AROUND.

SO, WE ARE ASKING FOR AT LEAST THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS JUST A PUNISHMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. WHY CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO SIT IN

SUCH CONDITION? >> DOES THE CITY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I MEAN, I AM ASSUMING THAT -- WHAT IS INVOLVED? YOU JUST NEED TO RENEW THE PERMIT?

>> THAT'S IT. >> HOW CAN THAT BE?

>> AS FAR AS RENEWING THE PERMIT? WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE HOMEOWNER -- AND THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THE POWER OF ATTORNEYS -- HE, PERSONALLY, IS NOT IN THE POSITION TO TAKE CARE OF THAT TASK. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT FALLS UNDER SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO, AS THE REAL ESTATE BROKER, AS WELL. BUT, IF YOU ARE ASKING US TO GO DOWN, HAVE A PERMIT TO BE PULLED BY THE ROOFER, MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THE BUYERS.

>> I WOULD THINK, THAT IS A --

>> AND MR. WINN, CAN THE CONTRACTOR RENEW THE PERMIT?

>> THE CONTRACTOR WOULD HAVE TO DO THE PERMIT.

>> SO, ORIGINALLY, THE ROOFING PERMIT WAS PULLED AND PAID FOR, BUT THAT WAS DONE BY A CONTRACTOR?

>> I BELIEVE SO, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON THAT

CASE. >> OKAY. MS. BECK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS TELLING ME, YES, IT WAS A CONTRACTOR ORIGINALLY. SO, THE SAME CONTRACTOR CAN RENEW THE

PERMIT. >> OKAY. IN REGARDS TO RENEWING THE PERMIT, ARE WE SAYING THAT THE ROOF MUST BE REPAIRED WITHIN THE 60 DAYS, AS WELL? OR, JUST THE PULL OF THE

PERMIT? >> YOU JUST HAVE TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT. ONCE YOU OBTAIN THE PERMIT, AS LONG AS THERE ARE INSPECTIONS DONE EVERY SIX MONTHS, YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE

WITH THAT PERMIT. >> THANKS FOR BRINGING CLARITY

TO THAT. THANK YOU. >> THAT WORKS.

>> OKAY, GREAT. I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION DOES EXIST, BUT THERE ARE 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT BEFORE ANY FINE COMES INTO PLAY. AT THAT POINT, THE $100 A DAY WOULD BEGIN TO BE ASSESSED AFTER THE 60 DAYS. CORRECT?

>> YES. AND OTHER CONDITIONS WE WOULD ASK FOR, IS TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS, UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS, AND CURE OTHER VIOLATIONS

DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER. >> YES.

>> YES. >> IS THAT -- OKAY. THAT'S --

>> YES, I AM FINE WITH THAT. >> OKAY, THEN. I THINK THAT IS

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ALL WE HAVE. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO APPEAL, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU

CAN GET THE PERMIT IN 60 DAYS. >> YEAH, WE WILL WORK ON IT.

THANK YOU. >> AND IF YOU CONTACT MR. WINN, HE CAN HELP YOU WITH WHATEVER YOU NEED HELP WITH, FOR

RENEWING THAT PERMIT. >> THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD

DAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> HERE YOU GO.

[B. 23-1430 1711 N 19th St Keith, William A. Keith, Jeffiner Keith, Glenn R. Keith, Freddie V. Keith, Willie E. Keith, Jennifer J Keith, Lorranzo J Keith, Horace R Logan Winn ]

>> THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE A TELEPHONE CALL IN. NEXT CASE IS 23-1430, 1711 NORTH 19TH STREET. I AM JUST GOING TO NAME THE FIRST ONE, WILLIAM A KEITH. THERE ARE A LOT OF

PROPERTY OWNERS ON THIS ONE. >> LAST NAME?

>> YES, THE KEITH'S. >> IS SOMEONE HERE, ALSO?

>> YES, WE HAVE PRESENT IN CHAMBERS, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE CONTACTING SOMEONE OUT OF STATE, AS WELL.

>> OH, OKAY. >> IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS, YOU MAY COME UP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME

TO. >> AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEAT, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT NEXT TO --

>> HELLO? >> HI, MR. KEITH?

>> YES. >> THIS IS CATHERINE, I'M CALLING YOU LIVE IN OUR COMMISSIONER CHAMBERS THIS AFTERNOON FOR A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING.

>> WAIT, GIVE ME -- YES. GO AHEAD.

>> I'M SORRY. WITH YOUR CASE, I JUST HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN.

>> OKAY. ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE ME JUST ABOUT THREE SECONDS?

>> I WANT TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE I HAVE COMPLETE QUIET.

>> YES, SIR. >> HOLD ON. MY HAND IS RAISED. OH, STATE YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY. HOLD ON. I AM

LOOKING FOR A CERTAIN PAPER. >> OKAY.

>> OKAY. I HAVE THE PAPER. >> I CAN'T REALLY HEAR YOU VERY WELL. YOUR SPEAKER, OR MICROPHONE IS COMING OUT KIND

OF MUFFLED. >> HOLD ON, ONE SECOND.

>> OKAY. I'M READY. YOU SAID I AM COMING OUT KIND OF FUZZY?

>> YES. >> IS THAT BETTER?

>> YES. >> NOT REALLY?

>> IT'S GOOD, RIGHT? >> OKAY.

>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M HERE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE JUST GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE YOUR NAME

FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> LORENZO KEITH.

>> DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE

IS THE TRUTH? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE CITY WILL PRESENT, AND YOU WILL

HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AFTER. >> OKAY.

>> MR. WINN? >> CASE NUMBER 23-1430, 1711 NORTH 19TH STREET, CASE WAS INITIATED MAY 18TH, 2023. THE OWNERS, WILLIAM A KEITH, JEFF AND HER KEITH, GLENN KEITH, FREDDIE KEITH, WILLIE KEITH, JENNIFER KEITH, LORRANZO KEITH, HORACE KEITH. THE ADDRESS WRIST LISTED OF THE OWNERSHIP IS 1320 ASHBROOK PLACE, CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, 28209. VIOLATIONS, IPMC 111.1 2021, UNSAFE STRUCTURES, IPMC 111.1.2, 2021, UNSAFE EQUIPMENT, IPMC 111.1.5, 20 2100 INFRASTRUCTURE, OR PREMISES, IPMC 302.7, 2021,

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ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, IPMC 304.1, 2021, EXTERIOR STRUCTURE, GENERAL, IPMC, 304.1 .1, 2021, UNSAFE CONDITIONS, IPMC, 304.2, 2021, PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, IPMC, 304.4, 2021, STRUCTURAL MEMBERS, IPMC, 304.6, 2021, EXTERIOR WALLS, IPMC, 304.7, 2021, ROOFS AND DRAINAGE, IPMC, 306.1, 2021, COMPONENT SERVICEABILITY, GENERAL, IPMC, 306.1 .1, 2021, UNSAFE CONDITIONS, IPMC, 603.3, 2021, ELECTORAL SYSTEM HAZARDS.

CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, OBTAIN A PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE. RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FIND THE VIOLATION EXISTS , THE VIOLATORS BE GIVEN SIX DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED, COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER PERMIT CONDITIONS, AND, CURE ALL OTHER VIOLATIONS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDER NOT REQUIRING A PERMIT OR FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. THERE IS NO PERMIT ON FILE FOR THIS PROPERTY, I DO

HAVE A SET OF PICTURES. >> MR. WINN, WHAT STRUCTURE IS

THIS FOR ON THE PROPERTY? >> THE WHOLE HOUSE.

>> THE WHOLE HOUSE? OKAY. THE RESPONDENTS THAT IS HERE, HAS HE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE PHOTOGRAPHS? HAVE YOU SEEN THE

PHOTOGRAPHS, SIR? >> YES, I HAVE.

>> WE ARE GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU.

>> IS HE GOING TO INTRODUCE --

>> IS IT MY OTHER STATEMENT IN COURT NOW?

>> SIR, GIVE US ONE SECOND. >> CERTAINLY.

>> CAN I SEE THE PHOTOGRAPHS REALLY QUICK?

>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE PASS THIS FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES, CAN WE CALL ANOTHER CASE, REALLY??

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO HANG UP, OR PUT THEM IN HOLD?

>> YOU CAN PUT THEM ON HOLD, AND I WILL TALK TO MR. WINN IN THE HALLWAY FOR JUST A SECOND. BUT, YOU CAN CALL AN EASY

CASE. >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS A WAY TO PUT ON HOLD, SO I WILL HANG UP.

>> YOU CAN JUST MUTE HIM, OR HAVE HIM MUTE. HE CAN LISTEN,

IT'S FINE. >> MR. KEITH? THERE IS SOME ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO REVIEW WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, SO WE ARE JUST GOING TO DO ANOTHER CASE REALLY QUICK, IF YOU JUST WANT TO STAY ON THE PHONE, AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.

>> ARE YOU ABLE JUST TO CALL ME BACK? OR, SHOULD I JUST HANG

ON? >> WHICHEVER IS EASIER FOR YOU.

ARE YOU SPEAKING? >> TWO, THREE MINUTES?

>> THAT IS FINE. I CAN HOLD. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> CAN YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE, JUST IN CASE?

>> MUTE MY PHONE? YES. OKAY. LET'S SEE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. KEITH. >> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW

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TO GET IT -- I CAN'T GET IT TO COME ON. OKAY. LET'S --

>> ALRIGHTY. >> AN EASY ONE.

[A. 23-1682 CE 301 Gardenia Avenue URBANO & MARIA LOPEZ Heather Debevec]

>> OKAY, I'M GOING TO JUMP TO 5A, 23-1682, 301 VIRGINIA AVENUE. YOU CAN GO UP TO THE -- THANK YOU.

>> HI. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THIS IS CASE 23-1682, 301 GARDENIA AVENUE, OR BONO AND MARIA LOPEZ. CASE WAS INITIATED ON JUNE 12TH OF THIS YEAR, IT WAS FOR IPMC 72.4, EMERGENCY ESCAPE OPENINGS, COVERED WINDOWS. SECTION 26-3, STORAGE OF COMMODITIES. SECTION 24-19, 24-20, 24-21, SECTIONS 1 AND FIVE, NEW SINCE AS AN OBJECT, OUTSIDE STORAGE. SECTION 24-19, 24-20, 24-21, SECTION 11, NEW SINCE AS AN OBJECT, OUTSIDE STORAGE INDOOR FURNITURE. IPMC 302.3 SIDEWALKS AND DRIVEWAYS. IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY REMOVE OR TAKE DOWN THE SHUTTERS, COVERINGS FROM WINDOWS. REMOVE ITEMS FROM THE OPEN UTILITY TRAILER AND PLACE THEM IN A SHED OR ENCLOSED FACILITY.

REMOVE, BRING IN, OR PLACED IN A SHED, PILES OF WOOD AND STUMPS IN THE BACK OF THE HOME, CLOTHING, CONTAINERS, AND OTHER ITEMS FROM THE YARD, CARPORT, AND PORCH. BRING IN AND REMOVE THE WOODEN DINING CHAIRS FROM THE CARPORT AND PORCH. REMOVE THE DRIVEWAY WHERE IT IS UNEVEN AND DETERIORATING. PAINT THE TRIM AROUND THE HOME AND THE SUPPORT BEAMS. THE CITY IS REQUESTING THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR BE GIVEN 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, COMPLY WITH ALL PERMIT CONDITIONS, OR A FINE OF $100 PER DAY BE ASSESSED. I DO HAVE PHOTOS TO SUBMIT.

>> AND HAS MS. LOPEZ SEEN THE PHOTOS?

>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE PICTURES.

>> DO ME A FAVOR, PULL THE USB OUT? POP IT BACK IN? THE OTHER

ONE. OKAY, HERE COMES KAT. >> I THINK KAT IS BRINGING IT.

>> DO THE PHOTOS FAIRLY AND ACCURATELY DEPICT THE

VIOLATIONS AS YOU SAW THEM? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THESE AS

COMPOSITE ONE? >> THE PHOTOS WILL BE ENTERED AS CITY COMPOSITE EXHIBIT NUMBER ONE.

>> I HAVE PICTURES THAT WE CLEANED THE PROPERTY, AND I NEVER RECEIVED THAT CERTIFIED MAIL, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY RESIDENCE PROPERTY ADDRESS. THAT IS A RENTAL. THIS IS THE PICTURES I GOT, AFTER WE CLEANED. I -- OH, I'M SORRY.

I JUST GOT THIS ONE ON SATURDAY. SO --

>> OKAY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I ENTERED THESE PICTURES AS THE CITY'S EXHIBIT. IF YOU HAVE SOME TO ENTER AFTER THE CITY LOOKS, YOU CAN ENTER THOSE AS YOUR EXHIBIT.

>> HEATHER, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE?

>> NO, MA'AM, I HAVE NOT. >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BEING ADMITTED AS COMPOSITE IMAGE

ONE. >> OKAY. THESE PHOTOS WILL BE SUBMITTED AS RESPONDENTS COMPOSITE IMAGE ONE.

>> OKAY. >> HAVE YOU INDICATED WENDY'S

WHEN THESE WERE TAKEN? >> A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE

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TODAY, MONDAY. >> THIS MONDAY?

>> YES. THE RECENT REASON WAS, THEY CLEANED OVER THE WEEKEND, MY TENANTS. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I NEVER RECEIVED ANOTHER LETTER OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY LEFT THERE ON THE

DOOR. >> HEATHER, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE ADDRESS ON THE PROPERTY? BECAUSE, MA'AM, WE SEND NOTICE TO WHAT THE ADDRESSES ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CARD. SO, IF THE ADDRESS ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CARD IS THIS ADDRESS, THAT IS WHERE ALL THE NOTICES GO. IF YOU WANT FOR NOTICES TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU NEED TO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER

WITH THE COUNTY. >> ALL OF THEM SAY 301 GARDENIA

AVENUE. >> SO, IF YOU WANT ANY OF YOUR NOTICES TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU NEED TO NOTIFY ST. LUCIE COUNTY PROPERTY MAGISTRATE AND UPDATE THE ADDRESS.

>> I DID IT BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS NOT CHANGING IT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE BEEN IN. BUT YES, I WILL

DO IT AGAIN. >> AND FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE PHOTOS, HEATHER, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COMPLIED, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS STILL IN VIOLATION?

>> THE MAIN THING I SAW COMPLIED WAS THE SHUTTERS, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW A DETERMINATION. AS YOU GO THROUGH MY PHOTOS, THE ONES THAT I HAD TAKEN YESTERDAY ARE VERY SIMILAR, IF NOT THE SAME AS WHAT MS. LOPEZ IS PRESENTING

TODAY. >> OKAY. ABOUT THAT THING, THAT IS PART OF THE JOB. THAT IS WHY I AM TALKING TO THEM OVER THE WEEKEND, WHAT CAN WE DO IF THEY USE IT EVERY DAY? THAT IS PART OF THE JOBS. THEY NEED IT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE THAT OPEN STORAGE LIKE THAT IN THE BACK OF THE TRAILER IS AGAINST OUR CODE. IT WOULD NEED TO BE INSIDE AN ENCLOSED TRAILER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, TO LEAVE IT SITTING OUT LIKE THAT, IS AGAINST OUR CODE.

I'M SURE MR. BENTEKE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AFTER THE HEARING AND GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN YESTERDAY MORNING. SO -- IT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THAT AS PART OF THEIR JOBS.

>> SO, I AM SURE HE WILL MEET WITH YOU AND EXPLAIN TO YOU IN

DETAIL WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. >> OKAY.

>> SO, YOU WERE THERE YESTERDAY?

>> YES, MA'AM, I WAS THERE YESTERDAY ACCORDING TO THE PHOTOS AT 9:15 IN THE MORNING.

>> AND WHERE THE SHUTTERS -- >> YES, THE SHUTTERS WERE

REMOVED. >> SO, THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF? OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE?

>> THEY HAD PICKED SOME ITEMS UP, BUT IT IS CLOSE, BUT NOT

THERE, YET. >> OKAY. THE CHAIRS IN THE PORCH, I MEAN, THEY COME FROM WORK AND THEY SIT OUTSIDE. HOW CAN -- WHERE CAN THEY HIDE IT ALL? IT IS LIKE ME HAVING MY

CHAIRS IN MY PATIO. >> THEY CAN CERTAINLY HAVE CHAIRS ON THE CARPORT, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE OUTDOOR CHAIRS. THE ONES YOU ARE SHARING IN THE CARPORT ARE LIKE, A DINING ROOM STYLE SQUARE PLASTIC CHAIR THAT THE LITTLE ICON IS UNDER LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE. THE OTHER TWO CHAIRS, THE ONE THAT THE ICON IS UNDER, IT LOOKS LIKE A BARSTOOL, THE OTHER ONE NEXT TO THE ENTRYWAY THERE LOOKS LIKE A DINING CHAIR OF SORTS.

>> SO, JUST HAVE THEM REMOVE IT, I THINK? BECAUSE I JUST

STOPPED ON THE WAY HERE. >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU JUST

SAID. >> THOSE CHAIRS THAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT, THEY HAVEN'T REMOVED IT, I JUST STOPPED BY ON MY WAY HERE TODAY AND ALL I SEE IS THREE CHAIRS THROWN BY

THE STORAGE ROOM. >> I'M COMING IN TOWARD THE END. BUT, IF THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND THEY ARE GIVEN 30 DAYS, THEN WHEN OFFICER WE D ITEMS THAT WERE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR AREAS AND IN THE CARPORT, BUT THERE ARE STILL ITEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE LIKE IN THE BACKYARD, YOU STILL HAVE THE STUMPS. I'M NOT SURE, WHAT LOOKS LIKE PART OF A SIGN, SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT SHOULDN'T BE OUT THERE.

THE CHAIRS THAT ARE HERE IN THIS PHOTO -- BUT, THERE IS ALSO THE ISSUE OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS DAMAGED, AND THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A PERMIT TO REPAIR.

>> SO, WHICH VIOLATIONS ARE CURED AT THIS POINT, AND WHICH

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CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ARE TAKEN AWAY?

>> THE SHUTTERS, AND REMOVING AND TAKING DOWN THE SHUTTERS, THAT IS WHERE I WAS REQUESTING REVIEW AND DETERMINATION. AND

THAT IS DONE. >> OKAY. SO, THEN, RELATED TO THE CHAIRS AS FAR AS YOU OBSERVED, THEY ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AS OF YESTERDAY MORNING?

>> NO. SO, MY RECOMMENDATION, THEN, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IS A VIOLATION BE FOUND FOR THAT. AGAIN, WHEN SHE GOES OUT, IF IT IS IN COMPLIANCE, THEN IT WILL BE FOUND TO BE WITHIN

COMPLIANCE. >> OKAY. I WILL TALK, SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. OKAY, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY

THING ELSE? >> NO.

>> OKAY. I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE FIRST ONE, THE COVERED WINDOWS, HAS BEEN CURED.

>> WE ARE REQUESTING A REVIEW AND DETERMINATION R&D ON THAT

ONE. >> OKAY. ALL OF THESE EXIST, AND YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT, AND THAT INCLUDES

THE DAMAGE TO THE DRIVEWAY. >> SHE IS GOING TO TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT IS THE DRIVEWAY? I MEAN --

>> YES. >> OKAY.

>> YES. AND YOU NEED TO HAVE THE PERMIT WITHIN THAT TIME AND HAVE INSPECTIONS TO SHOW YOU ARE WITHIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PERMIT, BEYOND THAT. OTHERWISE, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PERMIT WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, A $100 A DAY FINE WILL BE

ASSESSED. >> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT 30 DAYS TO GET A PERMIT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT. IS THERE AN OBJECTION FROM STAFF TO 60?

>> NO, MA'AM. >> I THINK 60 WOULD BE MORE

APPROPRIATE. >> YOU HAVE 60 DAYS TO GET THE

PERMIT, TO DO SOME MORE TIME. >> AND I NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THE DRIVEWAY, AND I NEED TO GET THE MONEY. IT IS NOT

JUST, CALL SOMEONE AND DO IT. >> THAT IS WHY I SAID 60 MIGHT

BE MORE APPROPRIATE. >> IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE $500, OR $1000. SO, AND I DON'T -- BUT, I WILL TALK TO HER, AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN TO ME BETTER IF SHE HAS THE TIME

AFTERWARDS. >> OKAY. SO, THE ONLY CHANGE

WOULD BE THE 60 DAYS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO JUMP BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS CASE, 23-30, NORTH 19TH STREET, THE

KEITH'S. >> YES, I AM HERE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. KEITH. JUST HANG ON TIGHT. SIR, AT THE TABLE, CAN YOU TELL US WHICH KEITH YOU ARE? YOU ARE FREDDIE KEITH? OKAY. MR. KEITH, WE STARTED SHOWING YOU THE PHOTOGRAPHS. DID YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM? OKAY. AND SO, WHILE HE IS DOING THAT, I WANT TO CLARIFY WITH MR. WINN -- MR. WINN, THE PORTIONS OF THIS PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE VIOLATIONS AND THE CORRECTIVE ACTION, IS THAT THE SEPARATE GARAGE, AS WELL AS THE ADDITION GARAGE TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE?

>> CORRECT. >> SO, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE

MAIN STRUCTURE? >> CORRECT.

>> TWO GARAGES? >> YES, MA'AM. WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE. YES,

MA'AM. >>

>> WHEN HE APPLIES FOR HIS DEMO PERMIT, THEY WILL ADDRESS ALL

OF THAT IN HIS DEMO PERMIT. >>

>> THE GARAGE. >>

>>

>> THE DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR SHOULD HANDLE ALL OF THAT.

>> CORRECT. >> MR. KEITH, WE ARE GOING TO GRAB THE PHOTO BACK FROM YOU. DO THOSE CORRECTLY DEPICT THE

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VIOLATIONS AS YOU OBSERVED THEM?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AT THIS TIME, THE CITY WILL MOVE THEM IN AS COMPOSITE ONE PHOTOGRAPHS.

>> I WILL SHOW YOU ON THIS SCREEN. SO, IN C, IT IS THOSE

TWO. >> THE PHOTOGRAPHS WILL BE ENTERED AS CITIES COMPOSITE EXHIBIT ONE.

>>

>> SO -- SORRY, MR. FREDDIE KEITH, YOU CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THIS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. IS THERE ANYTHING

THAT YOU WANT TO TELL HER? >>

HE IS STILL -- >>

THEY HAVE 60 DAYS TO GET -- >> AND MR. LORRANZO IS DOING THAT, WHO WAS ON THE PHONE? OKAY.

>> SO, I GUESS WE SHOULD ASK MR. LORRANZO KEITH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

>> WELL, SO, NOW, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I AM WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT VIOLATIONS -- THEY ARE SO VAGUE, IF YOU WILL. I AM JUST KIND OF GOING OVER THE FIRST ONE, AND I AM CALLING IT THE FIRST ONE. .101, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS HOW THEY ARE NUMBERED. THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE IS ONE THAT IS FOUND TO BE -- CAN SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY TELL ME WHAT THE VIOLATIONS ARE? AND I JUST USED THE SECOND ONE, ALSO. UNSAFE EQUIPMENT, SO FORTH, AND SO ON. WHAT, SPECIFICALLY, IS YOUR

INSPECTOR LOOKING AT? >> OKAY, MR. KEITH, MY NAME IS PEGGY, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMUNITY RESPONSE. A LITTLE BIT AGO, I WILL JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT AGO, I INITIATED A CONDEMNATION AGAINST THIS PROPERTY, AND EVERY ONE OF THESE CODES THAT IS LISTED HERE, IS LISTED IN DETAIL IN THAT CONDEMNATION LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO EVERYBODY THAT IS LISTED HERE. SO, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT AT ONE TIME WITH A FULL DESCRIPTION OF EVERY CODE THAT

IS LISTED IN THIS LETTER. >> OKAY, GOOD. NOW, IS THIS THE ONE THAT YOU MAY HAVE DATED MAY 18TH?

>> THE MAY 18TH LETTER CAME FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

IT IS A SUPPLEMENTAL LETTER TO THE CONDEMNATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ISSUED, BECAUSE THE CONDEMNATION HAS BEEN ACTIVE FOR A WHILE ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT DOES LIST, IN DETAIL, EVERY ONE OF THESE CODES THAT IS LISTED HERE. AND IN THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, OBTAIN A PERMIT TO DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE, THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO FIX THIS MATTER, REGARDING THESE TWO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, THE TWO GARAGES.

ALL OF THOSE CODES ALL SAY THE SAME THING, THAT THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE IN UNSAFE CONDITION AND NEED TO BE

REMOVED. >> OKAY. OKAY. SO, IT IS ONLY THE GARAGE, OR WHATEVER, CORRECT? NOT THE ENTIRE

BUILDING? >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY, GOOD. SO, NOW, AS FAR AS -- AND I AM JUST -- NOW, WHAT IS THIS, GOING DOWN TO PICK EXTERIOR WALLS? NO, I'M SORRY, EXTERIOR WALLS, ALL EXTERIOR WALLS SHALL BE FREE FROM HOLES, BRAKES, LOOSE, ROTTING MATERIAL, AND PROPERLY SURFACED, IN ORDER TO PREVENT DETERIORATION. IS THAT THE WALL OF THE BUILDING, THE INITIAL BUILDING THAT YOU ARE

SPEAKING OF? >> MR. WINN, I CAN'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS SAYING. DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE IS

REFERRING TO? >> SO, ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE LETTER THAT I JUST READ OFF, OR IN REFERENCE TO THE GARAGE SECTION OF THE STRUCTUE.

>> OKAY. >> NOT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, JUST THE TWO GARAGE OPENINGS STRUCTURE.

>> OKAY. FINE. SO, NOW, LET ME QUESTION THIS. SO, IF I

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DEMOLISH THE GARAGE, GET THE GARAGE COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED, EXCEPT FOR THE SLAB ON THE FLOOR, THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THESE VIOLATIONS, AM I CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

WELL, WE ARE IN THE WORKS ON THAT. WE ARE IN PROCESS ON THAT. I HAVE SECURED -- WITHOUT DEPOSIT -- BUT, I HAVE VERBALLY SECURED A DEMOLITION COMPANY TO COME OUT AND

DEMOLISH THE GARAGE. >> AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SIR, IT IS THE TWO GARAGES. IT IS THE STANDALONE GARAGE, AND THE ONE THAT WAS ADDED ONTO THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

>> OKAY, NOW, THE STANDALONE GARAGE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT

I CAN DO MYSELF? >> I WILL DEFER TO MR. WINN.

>> I DON'T KNOW -- WITH A MULTI-PROPERTY LIKE THAT, CAN

THEY? >> I MEAN, HE IS AN OWNER.

>> YOU WOULD STILL NEED TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT, SERVE, AND AT THAT POINT, THEY CAN TELL YOU IF THAT IS SOMETHING THE OWNER CAN DO, OR IF YOU NEED A CONTRACTOR. BUT, BEFORE YOU TEAR IT DOWN, YOU WILL NEED A PERMIT. SO, AT THAT POINT --

>> OKAY. CAN THE SAME PERMIT APPLIES TO BOTH THE ATTACHED GARAGE AND THE FREESTANDING BUILDING?

>> I AM BEING KNOTTED OUT, YES.

>> IS THAT A YES? >> YES.

>> OKAY. SO, HOW DO I LEGALLY FIND OUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN PHYSICALLY DO? LIKE, TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF TEARING IT DOWN, AS OPPOSED TO PAYING SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE STRUCTURE DOWN?

>> THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU AFTER THE HEARING TODAY. THEY WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT TO GIVE

YOU THAT ANSWER FORMALLY. >> OKAY, OKAY. SO, AT THIS POINT, I WILL BE SECURING A DEMOLITION COMPANY, THEY WILL PULL THE PERMIT , AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE. IS THAT CORRECT? ABOUT WHETHER THIS COULD BE AN OWNER PERMIT AND WHETHER YOU COULD DO THE WORK YOURSELF, EITHER YOU CAN GET A PERMIT EITHER AS AN OWNER, IF THAT IS PERMITTED, OR THROUGH A CONTRACTOR. BUT, WHAT THE CITY IS ASKING FOR IS THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS, YOU OBTAIN A PERMIT, WHETHER IT IS AN OWNER PERMIT OR CONTRACTOR PERMIT, THAT YOU OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THOSE TWO STRUCTURES.

>> OKAY. NOW, ONCE I OBTAIN THE PERMIT, IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS IN WHICH THE WORK MUST BE COMPLETED AND

REINSPECTED? >> IT HAS TO BE REINSPECTED AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE PERMIT IS CLOSED, AND ALL

REQUIRED INSPECTIONS. >> OKAY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW, LET ME ASK THIS, ONCE I GET THE PERMIT -- OR, WHOEVER GETS THE PERMIT, THE DEMOLITION COMPANY, MORE THAN LIKELY -- ONCE I OBTAIN THE PERMIT, THE WORK IS DONE, THEN WHAT IS MY NEXT STEP? DO I CONTACT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

>> ONCE YOU OBTAIN THE PERMIT, ONCE THE WORK IS DONE, YOU CALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND LET THEM KNOW EVERYTHING IS DONE, AND THEY CAN COME OUT TO INSPECT THE PERMIT AND THE

PROPERTY. >> I CALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, OKAY. WHAT -- AND I AM GOING TO ASK YOU THIS JUST SO I CAN HAVE IT RIGHT HERE WITH MY NOTES -- ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE ME THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PHONE NUMBER? THE

CONTACT NUMBER? >> IT IS GOING TO BE 772467 --

FAST. 772 -- YES, YES? >> 37 --

>> 467 -- >> 467 --

>> 467 -- >> 3718.

>> 3718. ALL RIGHT. GOT IT, GOT IT, GOT IT. SO, I HAVE 60 DAYS TO GET THROUGH THAT, AND AFTER THAT, I WILL CALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE WORK IS DONE. THEY WILL COME OUT AND DO THE INSPECTION. NOW, WHEN IS THIS EVERY 180 DAYS, TELL ME ABOUT THAT?

>> SO, IT IS EVERY SIX MONTHS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INSPECTION DONE TO KEEP THE PERMIT ACTIVE. IF YOU DON'T GET INSPECTIONS AS REQUIRED, THE PERMIT EXPIRES, AND THEN YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY FACE ANOTHER VIOLATION FOR HAVING THE EXPIRED PERMIT.

>> OKAY. OKAY. I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO, ONCE I GET THE

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WORK DONE -- >> SO, SIR, I'M TRYING TO BE AS HELPFUL AS I CAN BE, BUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY HERE FOR AT THIS POINT IS RELATED TO THE VIOLATION. SO, A LOT OF THESE ARE HONESTLY QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THIS HEARING, AND/OR CAN BE ASKED AFTER THIS HEARING. SO, I AM GOING TO DEFER TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY, OKAY. >> I THINK I MAY UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION, THAT IF YOU GET THE PERMIT -- I THINK HE IS CONTEMPLATING THAT IF THE WORK IS DONE, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GET REINSPECTED EVERY 180 DAYS, ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE DOWN,

RIGHT? >> SURE, ONCE IT IS DOWN, ONCE THE PERMIT IS CLOSED, IT IS DONE.

>> YEAH, I THINK THE CONFUSION IS EVERY SIX MONTHS, AND THE BUILDING IS GONE, HE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO INSPECT IT.

>> YES, MA'AM. CORRECT. >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY, SO, WHAT -- I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND THAT THE OWNER HAS 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT, AND OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS, WHICH ARE AT AT LEAST EVERY 180 DAYS UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE.

>> OKAY. >> AND YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE PERMIT CONDITIONS, OBVIOUSLY, AND CURE OTHER VIOLATIONS IN THE ORDER, REQUIRING THE PERMIT, AFTER THE 60 DAYS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT, THE FINE OF $100 A DAY

WILL BE ASSESSED. >> OKAY.

>> OKAY? >> OKAY. OKAY. I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY, SO, LET ME JUST GO THROUGH IT NOW, JUST FOR MY UNDERSTANDING AND CLARITY. AFTER THE PERMIT IS OBTAINED, THE CORRECTIONS ARE MADE, I CALL THE DEPARTMENT, THEY WILL COME BACK IN, BUT AFTER THE PERMIT IS OBTAINED, I HAVE 180 DAYS TO GET THE WORK DONE. WITHIN 180 DAYS.

>> YES. >> IS THAT A YES? I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT I AM HEARING. GET THE PERMIT, GET THE WORK DONE, CALLED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE DONE

WITHIN 180 DAYS. >> SO, YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT WITHIN 60, AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THE PERMIT, EVERY 180 DAYS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INSPECTION DONE.

>> OKAY. >> AND IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR HELP YOU WITH THIS, THEY CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THIS

PROCESS. >> OKAY. OKAY.

>> THEY HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION, AND CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY? SO, IF YOU HAVE THEM CONTACT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND GET THAT PERMIT IN 60 DAYS, THEY

CAN HELP YOU WITH THE REST. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE

ARE GOOD, THEN. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[B. 23-1048 CE 1240 Binney Drive ELODE VINCENT (TR) Heather Debevec]

>> IS THAT THE END OF THIS HEARING?

>> YES, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO

MUCH. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> BYE, NOW. >> THANK YOU, MR. KEITH.

>> OUR NEXT CASE IS 23-1040, 1240 BENNY DRIVE.

>> HI. I AM NOT MS. LOAD VINCENT. THAT HAS BEEN FORMALLY CHANGED. I AM MR. VINCENT'S SUCCESSOR TRUSTEE, AND LAST TIME I WAS HERE, HE WAS HOSPITALIZED. SINCE THEN, HE HAS PASSED. IT HAS TAKEN ME A WILD TO GET CONTROL OF FUNDS, AS THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEE. I HAVE CERTIFICATION OF TRUST, DATED 20TH OF SEPTEMBER. SO, SHOULD I CONTINUE TO TALK, OR -- WELL, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THIS HAS KIND OF ALMOST BEEN A MESS BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY IN STEWARD THAT WASN'T CHARGED OF THE PROPERTY AND HE WAS TOLD BACK IN FEBRUARY THAT REALLY SHOULD CONTROL --

>> I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. USUALLY, THE CITY GOES FIRST, AND YOU RESPOND. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF

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YOU WANT TO SEE THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE WE GO FORWARD?

>> SO, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE NAME OF THE TRUST, RIGHT?

>> YES, NOW. >> SO, YOU ARE THE

REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TRUST? >> I AM THE TRUSTEE.

>> CAN WE SEE WHAT YOU HAVE? CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME

FOR THE RECORD? >> MARY SUSAN NONE.

>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IT APPEARS TO BE A PROPER ORDER FROM OUR CLERK REVIEW OF IT, PROPERLY NOTARIZED. SO, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DEFER TO MS. DEBEVEC TO PRESENT.

>> SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THIS IS CASE NUMBER 23-1048, 1240 BINNEY DRIVE, ELODE VINCENT TRUST. CASE WAS INITIATED ON APRIL 21ST OF THIS YEAR, THE FIRST HEARING WAS HELD ON AUGUST 16TH OF THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS CONTINUED FOR 60 DAYS TO ALLOW THE OWNER TO APPTHE ROOF. IPMC 702.4, EMERGENCY ESCAPE OPENINGS, COVERED WINDOWS. IPMC 304.7, RIBS AND DRAINAGE.

RECOMMEND THAT THEY REMOVE AND OPEN THE SHUTTERS AROUND THE HOME, REPAIR THE TRIM ON THE FRONT OF THE HOME NEAR THE FRONT DOOR AREA, OBTAIN A PERMIT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND REPAIR THE ROOF WITH A TARP REMNANTS AND BRICKS ARE. THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR BE GIVEN 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT AND COMPLY WITH ALL PERMIT CONDITIONS OR A FINE OF $100 A DAY WILL BE ASSESSED. I DO HAVE PHOTOS TO SUBMIT. WHEN I WENT BY THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY, ALL BUT ONE SHUTTER WAS OPEN. MS. EIGHT NUN HAD STATED THAT THEY HAD TROUBLE GETTING THOSE OPEN, AND ALL OTHERS WERE OPEN. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE SYSTEM IN REFERENCE TO PERMITS AT THIS

TIME. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO

THE PHOTOS? >> NO. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATION BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO THIS OTHER PERSON'S ADDRESS. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED WAS THE FASCIA. SO, THIS IS MY QUESTION, BECAUSE -- I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST ASKING IF YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE PHOTOS.

>> OH, NO. >> WE WILL MOVE THE PHOTOS TO CITY'S COMPOSITE EXHIBIT ONE. A

>> YOU WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> MS. DEBEVEC, ANYTHING

FURTHER? >> NONE AT THIS TIME, NO.

>> THE PHOTOS WILL BE ENTERED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE EXHIBIT ONE, AND, I'M SORRY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD NOW.

>> OKAY. THIS IS -- THERE IS LIKE, NINE TRUSTEES. I MEAN, NOT TRUSTEES, BUT BENEFICIARIES. I HAD A CONTRACTOR COME OUT THERE, AND LIKE I SAID, UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T RECEIVING THE COMMUNICATIONS. BUT, IT WOULD BE EASY TO GET THAT FIXED. AND A CONTRACTOR -- SO, I GUESS THIS IS MY QUESTION TO THE CITY. IF I GET THE FASCIA FIXED AND JUST GET AN ADDITIONAL TARP THAT ACTUALLY WORKS, AND WE CAN SELL THE HOUSE AS IS, IS THAT OKAY? I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE TO GET A WHOLE NEW ROOF, DO I?

>> WELL, WE CAN'T SAY WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED TO HAVE A NEW ROOF, BUT HAVING A TARP ROOF IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, NO. SO, WHETHER THE ROOF GETS REPAIRED OR REPLACED IS UP TO YOU. BUT, HAVING A TARP ROOF IS NOT UP TO CODE. SO, THAT IS PART OF THE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

>> OKAY. SEE, THIS IS LIKE, I AM MAKING THE DECISION ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE. SO, YOU ARE SAYING THAT EVEN IF WE WANTED TO SELL IT AS IS, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, MONEYWISE, BECAUSE MAYBE SOMEBODY JUST WANTS TO BUY IT, AND TEAR IT DOWN, AND PUT A WHOLE OTHER HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY? I MEAN -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO. SO, BEING -- JUST HAVING A TARP ROOF IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE?

>> CORRECT. >> IN GENERAL?

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>> THAT IS CORRECT. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIME OF WHERE YOU WILL BE LOOKING TO TRANSFER THE PROPERTY, TO A NEW OWNER?

>> WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO SELL IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE -- LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO FIX THE FASCIA, OR WHATEVER IT IS CALLED THERE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. BUT, THE WHOLE NEW ROOF --

>> IF I COULD, TO REFER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU CAN PULL UP STATUTE 162, I WANT TO SAY IT IS EITHER FOUR OR FIVE? THE STATE STATUTE DOES REQUIRE, WHETHER WE ARE AT THIS PROCESS OR FURTHER INTO THE PROCESS, THE STATE STATUTE DOES REQUIRE YOU TO NOTIFY ANY NEW OWNERS OF EXISTING CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. I WILL LET THE CITY ATTORNEY POLL THAT INFORMATION UP SO YOU HAVE THAT. SO, NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS, THIS IS AN OBLIGATION TO THE SELLER TO NOTIFY ANY POTENTIAL OWNERS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS HAPPENING

ON THE PROPERTY. >> I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE HER LEGAL ADVICE, SO I CANNOT DO THAT.

>> OKAY. OKAY. BUT, WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE CODE ACTION, WHETHER WE ARE HERE OR FURTHER INTO THE PROCESS, IT ALREADY EXISTS. SO, IT IS GOING TO BE UP TO THE SELLER TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT PROCESS IS

NEEDED. >> OKAY. BUT, WHAT ABOUT LIKE, THE FINES AND ALL OF THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT PASSED ON TO

THEM? >> THE FINES RUN WITH THE PROPERTY. SO, IF IT IS SOLD, THE FINE WILL RUN WITH THE

PROPERTY. >> IF WE --

>> IF WE WERE TO GIVE YOU 90 DAYS, DO YOU BELIEVE YOU COULD HAVE A TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP IN 90 DAYS?

>> YES, OR I CAN GUARANTEE THE ROOF WILL BE REPAIRED. I MEAN, ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS. YES, 90 DAYS IS ENOUGH.

>> OKAY. >> YEAH.

>> JUST, INSTEAD OF THE -- SO, ARE WE FILING A VIOLATION, OR CONTINUATION, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> IT IS UP TO YOU. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE HER 90 DAYS AND COME

BACK? >> LET'S COME BACK IN JANUARY,

YEAH. >> SO, CONTINUE IT UNTIL

JANUARY? >> CAN YOU HELP US?

>> I WOULD SAY JANUARY 10TH WOULD BE OUR FIRST ONE.

CORRECT? JANUARY 10TH? >> YES. AT 1:30?

>> OKAY. 1:30 IT IS. OKAY. >> OH, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THE TIME? I THINK WE ARE SAFE TO SAY 1:30 AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY, SORRY. >> SO, THIS WILL BE CONTINUED

FOR JANUARY 10TH AT 1:30. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH OLD BUSINESS? PEGGY?

>> WHAT? >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE

[A. 23-2108PK 100 Marina Way PV Holding Corp Charmaine Kirkland]

WITH OLD BUSINESS, OR START WITH THE CITATIONS?

>> THERE IS NO ONE ELSE HERE? JUST START WITH THE CITATIONS.

TO FOUR A, CASE 23 DASH 2108, 100 MARINA WAY, PB HOLDING

CORP. >> IT AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR, THE CASE NUMBER 23 DASH 2008 WAS A PARKING CITATION ISSUED AT THE 100 BLOCK OF MARINA WAY TO PV HOLDING COURT . CASE INITIATED JULY, 2023 PRETTIFY LATER, PV HOLDING COURT, CITATION NUMBER 2108, DASH 31 AND. PARKING THE OFFICER IT OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC, FINE OF $50, ADMIN FEE OF $10, LATE FEE OF $18, TOTAL OF $78. THE CITY REQUEST THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FIND THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR BE ASSESSED AND THE TOTAL IS DUE. I DO HAVE PICTURES OF THE

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TIME AND DATE OF THE VIOLATION.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE CITY WILL MOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN AS

COMPOSITE EXHIBIT ONE. >> PHOTOS WILL BE ENTERED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE ONE. AND THERE IS NO ONE PRESENT. FOR THE RESPONDENT. SO, I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND THAT THE VIOLATOR BE ASSESSED, A FINE OF $50, AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OF $10 AND LATE FEE OF $18 FOR A TOTAL OF $78. FAILURE TO PAY THIS FINE WITHIN TWO WEEKS WILL CAUSE THE CITATION TO BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM, AND THE RESPONDENT WOULD STILL HAVE A 30 DAY RIGHT TO APPEAL.

[B. 23-2054PK Marina Way Justin John Maguire Larry Stephens]

>> OUR NEXT CASE IS 23-2054, MARINA WAY, JUSTIN JOHN

MCGUIRE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR.

>> THIS CASE BEFORE YOU IS 23-2054 AT MARINA WAY. THIS CASE HAPPENED JULY 13TH, 2023. THE VIOLATOR WAS JUSTIN MAGUIRE, CITATION 19568, CODE SECTION 34-21 D, TWO HOUR PARKING. FIND IS $50, ADMINISTRATION FEE IS $10, LATE FEE IS $18, TOTAL DUE AMOUNT IS $78. THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FINDS THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR BE ASSESSED TO THE TOTAL DUE AS INDICATED ABOVE.

FAILURE TO PAY SUCH FINE WILL RESULT IN THE CITATION BEING FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM. I DO HAVE PHOTOS TO DEPICT THE DATE AND TIME OF THE OFFENSE. THERE YOU GO, SIR.

>> THE CITY WILL MOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN AS COMPOSITE EXHIBIT ONE. SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE CHAIR ALMOST

TOOK YOU OUT. >> PHOTOS WILL BE ENTERED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE ONE. THE RESPONDENT IS NOT PRESENT. I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS, AND THAT THE VIOLATOR BE ASSESSED A FINE OF $50, ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OF $10, LATE FEE OF $18 FOR A TOTAL OF $78, TO BE PAID IN 14 DAYS. AND IF NOT PAID WITHIN THAT TIME, THE CITATION WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM, AND THE RESPONDENT HAS A 30 DAY

RIGHT TO APPEAL. >> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

[A. 22-3354 CE 314 N 18th Court Truman Perdue Sylvia Jones Heather Debevec]

>> THANK YOU. >> THE LAST CASE TODAY IS 22-3354, 314 NORTH 18TH COURT, SHERMAN PERDUE AND SYLVIA

JONES. >> YOUR HONOR, THIS IS CASE 22-3354, 314 NORTH 18TH COURT, TRUMAN PERDUE, SYLVIA JONES.

CASE WAS INITIATED ON DECEMBER 16TH OF LAST YEAR. THE FIRST HEARING WAS HELD ON MAY 17TH OF THIS YEAR, THE CASE WAS CONTINUED TO ALLOW THE OWNER TO WORK WITH REBUILD FLORIDA.

VIOLATIONS ARE IPMC, RIBS AND DRAINAGE, IPMC 304.1, EXTERIOR STRUCTURE, GENERAL. IPMC, 304.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT.

CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, REPAIR THE ROOF WHERE THE TYPES ARE, THEY WOULD NEED TO SPEAK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR PERMITS. REPAIR THE TRIM WHERE IT IS DETERIORATING AND ROTTING, AND PAINT THE TRIM AND CABLES WHERE THE PAINT IS PEELING AND FADING. THE CITY REQUESTS THAT IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FIND THE VIOLATION EXISTS, THE VIOLATOR BE GIVEN 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT AND COMPLY WITH ALL THE PERMIT CONDITIONS, OR A FINE OF $100 A DAY BE ASSESSED. I DO HAVE PHOTOS OF WHICH TO SUBMIT, ALONG WITH A COPY OF WHAT THEY SENT ME FOR SCOPE OF WORK FROM REBUILD FLORIDA, WHICH IS I THINK LIKE, 50 PAGES. IT IS EXTENSIVE.

>> AND REBUILD FLORIDA HAS RESPONDED?

>> IT IS PAPERWORK FROM -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DATE WAS. IF YOU OPEN ATTACHMENT H, I BELIEVE IT HAS A DATE ON

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THAT, AS TO WHEN IT WAS PREPARED.

>> IT SAID NO. >> IT'S ON THE PAPERWORK.

>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE SUBMISSION WAS DONE?

>> THAT IS WHAT THE SON HAD SENT ME, BECAUSE MR. PERDUE HAD PASSED ON EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO, I WAS WORKING WITH THE SUN A LITTLE BIT, WHO LIVES IN TALLAHASSEE.

>> AND HE HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> THIS SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, I THINK, FOR A WHILE.

>> SINCE AUGUST OF 2020. AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, YOU TRY TO REACH OUT TO REBUILD FLORIDA TO GET AN ANSWER AS TO HOW LONG THEY THOUGHT THIS WOULD TAKE, AND YOU REALLY COULD NOT GET AN ANSWER FROM THEM?

>> YES. >> HAS THERE BEEN ANY FURTHER

COMMUNICATION WITH THEM? >> I HAVE NOT.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE SUN? WE WILL MOVE THE PACK IN AS CITY'S

COMPOSITE NUMBER ONE. >> OKAY.

>> WE HAVE PHOTOS SUBMITTED, AND WILL BE ENTERED AS CITY'S COMPOSITE ONE. THESE WERE ALL PHOTOS, RIGHT? OKAY. I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION EXISTS AND THAT THE VIOLATOR BE GIVEN 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT TO COMPLY WITH ALL PERMIT CONDITIONS OR A FINE OF $100 A DAY WILL BE ASSESSED.

RESPONDENT HAS A RIGHT TO APPEAL.

>> THANK YOU. WE ARE DONE. >> JUST DO IT.

>> WITH IN REGARDS TO ALLEGED VIOLATORS WHO ARE NOT PRESENT TO BE HEARD, THEY WERE NOTIFIED OF THIS AFTERNOON'S HEARING.

BY THE FOLLOWING -- FOR CASES REQUIRING A HEARING FOR STATE STATUTE 162.12, A NOTICE OF HEARING WAS SENT TO THE VIOLATORS VIA CERTIFIED MAIL. IF THE CARD IS RETURNED SIGNED, IT IS PLACED IN THE FILE. IF THE GREEN CARD IS RETURNED UNSIGNED OR UNCLAIMED, AN AFFIDAVIT US WITH THE NOTICE OF HEARING ENCLOSED IS SENT TO THE VIOLATOR, VIA REGULAR MAIL.

THE NOTICE OF HEARING IS POSTED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD IN CITY HALL, AND NOTICE OF HEARING IS ALSO POSTED AT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION WITH AN AFFIDAVIT POSTING. IF THE GREEN CARD IS NOT RETURNED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT WITHIN 10 DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING, THE POSTING IS COMPLETED IN THE SAME MANNER AS IF THE CARD WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED. FOR CASES NOT MANDATED BY STATE STATUTE, NOTICES OF THE HEARING ARE HANDLED IN THE SAME MANNER PRIOR. IF THE GREEN CARD IS RETURNED UNSIGNED, UNCLAIMED, OR NOT RETURNED WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THE HEARING, A NOTICE OF HEARING IS POSTED ON THE

BULLETIN BOARD IN CITY HALL. >> THANK YOU.

> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.